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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: Border Reiver on 19 Dec 2010, 11:53
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Been a while since I did one of these - but I'm off work this week and you're now stuck with it.
Rather than focus on our own desires I though I would see what we might do for the man responsible for our enjoyment.
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Fewer shippers FTW.
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I went with the whiskey, as I've got a nice glass of the stuff right next to me.
So cheers to Jeph, both for producing an amazing comic that can generate such rabid....fanism... and for putting up with the forum, however much we may annoy him.
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Where's the 'Ms Vance and Dora in Thunderdome' option?
:D
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He said it was for Jeph, not us!
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Yeah, ok. Noticed that when I voted.
Really shouldn't Post till I've had that second cup of Coffee
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Fewer unreasonable shippers. Guessing about pairings that would not be incestuous or involve Hanners could be reasonable, but we don't seem to get too much of that around here ...
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i just want winslow to be real so I can have sex with him
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Well with enough whiskey...
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Marten's last tweet:
Jesus christ, my mom. Jesus CHRIST. #goddamnit
ho boy :laugh:
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Hee hee hee hee hee! So worth waiting up for.
Marten's mom looks a lot more like I expected - still "old", but not all puffy and weird like she was Friday. So yay Jeph.
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I had almost EXACTLY this meal with my mom a couple of years ago, though she prefers margaritas to martinis. Her comment about my endowment was not based on a nurse's assessment but on word-of-mouth from my exes. I thought I would die, and can TOTALLY sympathize with Marten.
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The progression of Marten's faces got a good lol out of me. Good comic.
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Jesus Christ Mom, I swear to God if you don't get your fucking ass back on that Goddamned airplane...
But of course Marten would never say that to his mom.
Anyhoo...
What would Dora say if Martymom's little gambit worked and Our Boy ended up on a date with this nice young lady?
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Good psycho eyes on Marten in that last panel.
Even better was the waitress's expression of "I really feel sorry for you, but this is hilarious too..."
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I think the comment on his anatomy crossed the line from good natured ribbing to full blown sadistic glee. Ah, parents, making sure we pay for our teenage rebellion, one comment at a time.
Yeah, even if the waitress was interested, Marten's made it pretty clear he's not interested in going for the rebound. And especially not when he's hungover and his skull aches from the owls.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOL
LOL
LOL
ROTLF
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG
Even worse was the script under the comic ...
I went with the whiskey, as I've got a nice glass of the stuff right next to me.
So cheers to Jeph, both for producing an amazing comic that can generate such rabid....fanism... and for putting up with the forum, however much we may annoy him.
Well, wiskey is good for wounds and making fire.
Otherwise I have no use for alcohol.
Anyway, world peace was worth the superflous wiskey, so I went for that one.
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Based on today's note, I wonder if it's more awkward for a guy's mom or his dad to try and do this.
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Mom, definately.
I wish I had some big, drawn out, insightful report to type out on today's comic but....I laughed. That's it. And I wouldn't want it any other way. :-D
Also: with Ellen and Cossette, Jeph seems to enjoy putting waitresses in embarrassing situations. :roll:
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I actually kind of wish that the waitress would become a new character.
I know it's stupid to be wishing for another female character, but new stuff is fun! I get as excited for new characters as I do for sight-reading new music.
...And I'm going to take my self-confessed band geek self and go into the corner now.
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I've had to avert a few situations like this with my mother. Thankfully she gets the hint rather quickly, but it won't stop her from prodding me to see if I'm interested. She finds it weird that I'm a single, good-looking guy (no, I'm not embellishing myself here :wink: ) who has little to no interest in dating. I guess I see the concept of 'dating' in the traditional sense to be an archaic thing, a situation that feels forced (IMHO) and doesn't really work today. Or then again maybe I'm just retarded. Or suck at talking to women I hardly know (and even those I've known for years). Or both.
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What kind of sick nurse was that? "Wow, you're newborn boy's penis is REALLY big!" The hell?
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Hee hee hee hee hee! So worth waiting up for.
Marten's mom looks a lot more like I expected - still "old", but not all puffy and weird like she was Friday. So yay Jeph.
I agree, I think Mrs. Reed came out much better this time around.
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What kind of sick nurse was that? "Wow, your newborn boy's penis is REALLY big!" The hell?
"It's a boy...and what a boy!"
"That's the umbilical cord. It's a girl."
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It's times like these I'm glad I got married at 23.
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Oh God, Veronica, you are my favorite fictional mom. Fantastic.
I think the waitress took that well, all things considered.
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What kind of sick nurse was that? "Wow, your newborn boy's penis is REALLY big!" The hell?
"It's a boy...and what a boy!"
"That's the umbilical cord. It's a girl."
"Here we are, Mr. Williams, it's a boy."
"My GOD, he's hung like a bear!"
"That's the umbilical cord, Mr. Williams."
"Don't cut that... let him dream for a while."
Marten's facial expressions are funny, but I laughed more at the progression in inflection of his only word of dialogue from panel to panel.
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It's times like these I'm glad I got married at 23.
I became 23 during my honeymoon (first marriage). It was only after it ended 22 years later that I realised how thoroughly I'd been manoeuvred into it - not by my mum though.
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Damn!
I got married at 23 also.
Mine only lasted three years however.
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I'm 23 and as close to married as I ever intend to be. (Intend is likely the operative word here.)
Anyway I have to say Martin's got a lot of patience. In that situation, with and hangover and head wound, I'd probably have just walked out and gone back to bed.
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As a contrast to the last few people, I'm 23 now, and don't intend to get married for a while, and in fact have never even been in a serious relationship. I can't imagine getting married so young, but hey, whatever works.
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Anyway I have to say Martin's got a lot of patience.
Woooo we have a new character "Martin" ? I totally missed that one.
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He's a regular, but has never actually appeared in the comic.
(But note that the poster has spelt Marten correctly in previous posts, so this is just a blip.)
Seriously, there can be many good reasons why your spelling may not be perfect, and we should not judge you because of that; but in general names you should try to take extra care over, please.
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I learned from my mother, who got married at 22, that early 20's is a bad time to get married. But that might have had more to do with the fact that the real reason she got married was because she was pregnant with me :-P
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There's no good time or bad time to get married. It depends entirely on the people involved.
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Hahahaha omg I don't know how he managed to keep his replies free of cursing, especially at that last one. Poor Marten, but I enjoy his agony so ~
If I was the waitress though I think I might've found his reaction kind of endearing; he may very well have gotten my numbers for his trouble.
Just to jump on the bandwagon: I'm 30 and I've never been married, but I've been proposed to, twice (obvious what my answers were, heh.) Although to be fair, I was young and those relationships were short. Although my longest lasting one - seven years - marriage was talked about, but never seriously considered (well, by me that is.)
Huh I never really thought about it, I guess I'm just not the marryin' type.
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Hahahaha omg I don't know how he managed to keep his replies free of cursing, especially at that last one.
Oh no, the cursing is still in there. It's the inflection; you have to read between the very few lines.
Panel 1: Weren't we supposed to be having a nice lunch together?
Panel 2: Seriously, Dora and I just broke up.
Panel 3: This is incredibly embarrassing. At least for me.
Panel 4: GOD. FUCKING. DAMMIT.
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"MOM"
Since Marten's position is too familiar to be very funny to me (familiar in a TV Tropes way, my mom was pretty good at avoiding public mortification), I ended up focusing on the waitress' reaction. I'll call her... Vanessa, for the time being. Vanessa seems to either like this idea, or be amused at Marten's predicament. I hope it's the former, because if he ever gets into another relationship it probably can't be someone we already know, so why not the gorgeous waitress his mom set him up with?
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The waitress looks better than Dora... Just saying :mrgreen:
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There's no good time or bad time to get married. It depends entirely on the people involved.
I totally agree with that one.
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There's no good time or bad time to get married. It depends entirely on the people involved.
Any time prior to the time when both people involved have supported them self (i.e., lived on their own for X amount of time outside of their parents' house and without relying on said parents for support) is a bad time.
EDIT: This is based on the bit about how almost all marriages that end in divorce end due to financial issues as the primary reason listed in the divorce paperwork statistic.
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i just want winslow to be real so I can have sex with him
I hear they make attachments for that now.
...what?
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Well, I hadn't lived away from home (apart from uni, which didn't really count as independent) when I got married. Yes, it ended in divorce, but not until 22 years later, which seems to me not likely to be for that reason! My second wife refused to consider our living together until I had lived alone for a year or so, and I don't regret that - I would say it's good advice in general, but as much for development of the personality as financial nouse.
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1821: :-D laid on the flor, arms and legs spread, laughing,
thanks I needed that
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So much for WCDT - this is the marriage history thread!
24, myself, both my wife and I had been on our own for a couple of years. She was 20, got thrown out of the house at 18. I'd been teaching while atending grad school.
25th anniversary coming in the spring... gotta find something silver.
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i just want winslow to be real so I can have sex with him
Whatever floats your boat man. You don't mind if I use the single malt to wipe that image from my brain do you?
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There's no good time or bad time to get married. It depends entirely on the people involved.
Truth.
Married @ 26. Still married. So there. :P
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Ditto, though I'm only 28 now so probably less impressive.
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Sorry for not posting the results of the previous poll, but with the boys using the real computers I was limited to the iTouch.
What should we get Jeph for Christmas?
Less shipping (the winner by a landslide)
Peace on Earth and good whiskey for men (the no.2 choice)
Dave Willis carrying out his commands (last choice)
(I can't remember the fourth option)
The man himself though wants something else.
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I had been on my own since 23 when I got married at 31. We're still going strong 11 years later, so there seems to be at least some correlation. Still, as pwhodges' divorce after 22 years shows, a married couple can't really say they've "made it" until death truly parts them.
As for the comic-poor Marten. Hope he at least gets a sympathy date out of this. Although knowing him, he's most likely not interested in jumping back into the dating pool just yet. Considering the way Dora rushed him and how that turned out, he probably won't be interested for a good long time.
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Married at 23 while still in college. Now 28 and newly-divorced.
I'm sure there are people who marry young for the right reasons. I wasn't one of them.
As for the comic: Oh, God, Mom... :oops:
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This is amazing.
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This thread is fascinating, glad to know I'm not the only one who married young and that some of you had success with it. My husband and I are 25 and 26 respectively and just passed our one year anniversary in September. Though as of May we will have been together for seven years, so I've known him my entire adult life. We got married when we figured that we were financially sound (if only weakly so) and when we realized that we had already seen one another at our worst. Of course, I never dreamed that I would only be 25 when doing laundry and cleaning the bathroom in the same weekend became the most romantic thing a man could possibly do for me.
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Dear God, today's comic was hysterical! It's one we can all relate to when it comes to parents. While my own mother didn't mention my penis size, she did mention my dad's infront of my friends one day while we were filming for a class project. "MOM!" indeed.
I'm currently 23, but don't see myself settling down until my early 30's. Then again, they say you don't see marriage coming, so for all I know, I'll wake-up in Vegas next month married to a nice Amish girl named Emily, and the child is mine.
But for now, I'm enjoying the single life. "I'M SINGLE AGAIN! OH BEHAVE!"
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I've been getting really sweet "classic QC" vibe lately (after the 'darker' break-up afermath ones) and it's not only because Marten's mom returned..
Great!
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Not married, so I am going to comment on today's comic (and the poll question). Marten may just ditch mom, go over to the bar, and decide that today is another good day to get drunk. :roll:
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I'm 'agressively single'. I believe some people should never marry, and that I am one of them.
I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
As for the comic, I'll restate and expand on my final post in the previous WCDT - Marten's Mom looks hella older in the new art style, and it kinda 'popped my bubble' about her. I'd always pictured her as either 'well preserved' (think Cher), or relatively young... and in the current strip, she's certainly showing her age 8(
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This is the only thing I could think of reading today's strip:
(http://i.imgur.com/4rVwS.jpg)
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if he ever gets into another relationship it probably can't be someone we already know, so why not the gorgeous waitress his mom set him up with?
There is an assertive female character who's into music, but she's never met Marten and there's no evidence it's realistic. She's still in school, and Marten thinks there's a big difference between being his age and being still in college.
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My parents married at 21/22 - right after Mom finished her bachelor's. Dad dropped out while Mom finished her master's (it was only another semester) and then the Army sent them off to a completely different state. They've been married 31 years.
I'm 28 and not married. There are times I think I'd kind of like to be, but not to the extent where I'd consider marrying some random person just to be married. I'm okay with being single all my life if I never find someone I want to marry.
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My wife and I got married when we were both 21. We recently celebrated our 49th anniversary. It seems to be working out all right.
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Win for making that panel correct, dude. xD I would go Eldritch horror from beyond the stars too.
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My wife and I got married when we were both 21. We recently celebrated our 49th anniversary. It seems to be working out all right.
Just want to thank you for some optimism! I got marred at 21, and I'm 23 now. Your post gives me hope.
As for the comic, I love Marten's face throughout. It's brilliant.
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I know couples who got married in their late 20s-early 30s who are struggling and on the brink of divorce, yet my wife and I are still going strong at 32, with our ten-year anniversary coming up in August. It definitely is more about the personal compatibility and relationship strength than your age, but that's just my experience. My parents got married when they were 21/22, and they will be celebrating 42 years in a couple of weeks.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This was simply MARVELOUS! The sheer awkwardness was almost touchable! Poor guy just cant catch a break, can he? :-D :-D :-D
There's no good time or bad time to get married. It depends entirely on the people involved.
So true. Life tends to suprise you, one way or another. Personally, I got married at 28, it lasted for few years, but hey, thats just life. :-P
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I'm 'agressively single'. I believe some people should never marry, and that I am one of them.
Same here. Years ago, I used to think that was a ridiculous concept...but there's some real truth to that.
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I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
I know how you feel. If I run into one more person who insists I really do want kids and just don't know it yet, but should get crackin' anyway I will...well, likely develop glowing red eyes and begin speaking the language of the old ones.
I am wondering what Mom is up to in this comic though. The best that I can come up with is that she's decided to distract him from the hurt by allowing him to redirect his feelings. Otherwise, it just seems oblivious to his feelings (which would be out of character in my opinion), but incredibly funny.
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Grud I love Marten's mom. Talk about trying to set your son up!!
One can just hear Marten's inner voice all through the strip.
48, never been married. Only ever been in one long term relationship that lasted four or five years, and she was the type who puts people off. 'World owes her a living' type most of the time. Grud knows why I stuck it out - guess I was young and stupid. The only good thing I can say is that we never got married or had kids.
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My wife married Husband #1 at 23. That may be partly why I am Husband #2. Married at 36, nearly 25 years ago. (And I lived on my own for 10 years before that, not that I didn't have visitors....)
And for those without children, if you decide to have only one child be prepared for a lot of abuse from everyone, family to strangers. "You can't leave her an only child!" I finally had to get rude. I would ask what was wrong with only children, get the usual litany, then point out that my mother was an only child, and were they inplying all those things were wrong with my mother? Shut'em up, it did.
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Dated my first husband all four years of college, graduated, got married a month later at 22, divorced at 28. He turned out to be an asshole in several ways. Luckily we never had kids.
Got re-married this past year at 31 after current hubby and I had dated for almost two years. Now I'm about 15 weeks pregnant and happy as a clam even though I'd always said I never wanted kids. I guess that changed when I met someone who actually cared about me.
All I can say is, I learned plenty from the first marriage - about myself and what I want out of life. Sometimes I wish I hadn't had to go through all that crap, but if I hadn't I wouldn't be who and where I am today, and I'm pretty happy with my life now. I think people put too much importance on whether or not someone is married by a certain age and that seems silly to me. It can lead to bad decisions, like in my case.
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I am wondering what Mom is up to in this comic though. The best that I can come up with is that she's decided to distract him from the hurt by allowing him to redirect his feelings. Otherwise, it just seems oblivious to his feelings (which would be out of character in my opinion), but incredibly funny.
I hadn't looked at it at that angle, and it does make some sense. A nice blowup at someone who's able to take anything he can dish out might help Marten 'clear the pipes' so to speak. Kinda a more aggressive version of crying-as-cleansing.
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I'm 27, my husband is 29, and we got married in 2008 after dating for two years. He is my best friend.
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Breaking my lurking spell to say that Elysiana's alternate panel is amazing. :mrgreen:
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if he ever gets into another relationship it probably can't be someone we already know, so why not the gorgeous waitress his mom set him up with?
There is an assertive female character who's into music, but she's never met Marten and there's no evidence it's realistic. She's still in school, and Marten thinks there's a big difference between being his age and being still in college.
I have no idea what you just said. Are you referring to a specific character, a hypothetical character, and/or the waitress? Please identify your subject to me, and English teachers everywhere.
I find the torrent of people rushing to declare their marital status, staying power, and age and/or their agreement with Jeph amusing. And the number that are older than me slightly surprising.
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if he ever gets into another relationship it probably can't be someone we already know, so why not the gorgeous waitress his mom set him up with?
There is an assertive female character who's into music, but she's never met Marten and there's no evidence it's realistic. She's still in school, and Marten thinks there's a big difference between being his age and being still in college.
I have no idea what you just said. Are you referring to a specific character, a hypothetical character, and/or the waitress? Please identify your subject to me, and English teachers everywhere.
Have you not seen Star Wars, dude?
THERE IS.... ANOTHER
or, to clarify and reduce the overall dickery level of this post, the subject is undefined. It's a damn ugly sentence, sure, but it's coherent and makes sense.
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I actually kind of wish that the waitress would become a new character.
I know it's stupid to be wishing for another female character, but new stuff is fun! I get as excited for new characters as I do for sight-reading new music.
...And I'm going to take my self-confessed band geek self and go into the corner now.
I could swear she did appear in a previous comic.....
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Damn taht sucks....
my sister actually pulled the same stunt on me with a waitress at friendly's once- except she left my phone number after i went outside. Fuck.
random thought while reading today- Jeph rarely puts any form of motorized transportation in the comic(characters mentioning driving somewhere, or even parked cars). is he a secret luddite? but then he uses the iternet...hm.
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Raven (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=423) and Dora (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=621) have cars.
And then there's the Vespavenger (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=743).
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Only tuning in because it just came to me that WCDT should mean weekly comic death threat.
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We Can Destroy This
Wild Canines Did This
Whale Cock Dick Tits
Web Comic Destruction Thread
What Crap Doth This (be)
Wankers, Cocks, Dumbasses & Tools
I could go on.
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I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
What's the postage like on that?
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Any time prior to the time when both people involved have supported them self (i.e., lived on their own for X amount of time outside of their parents' house and without relying on said parents for support) is a bad time.
This is massively culturally conditioned, and quite unsuitable for sweeping judgements like this. There are cultural groups, including my own, where living with your family until marriage is perfectly normal, and the divorce-rate among them, in Australia at least, is not higher than that of society as a whole, but often lower. Different strokes for different folks.
As for mothers trying to "fit up" their offspring, isn't this simply standard operating procedure? No less embarrassing though... :oops:
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I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
What's the postage like on that?
Depends...
*instantrimshot.com*
Media mail?
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I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
What's the postage like on that?
Depends...
*instantrimshot.com*
Oh, dear. :psyduck:
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Pennelope has a car, and Steve has a truck.
Nobody remembers the music major who hit her boss over the head with a rolled-up magazine?
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if he ever gets into another relationship it probably can't be someone we already know, so why not the gorgeous waitress his mom set him up with?
There is an assertive female character who's into music, but she's never met Marten and there's no evidence it's realistic. She's still in school, and Marten thinks there's a big difference between being his age and being still in college.
Wait, what? Who is this you speak of? OHHHHHHHHHHH. No, he hasn't met her, has he?
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This music major? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1251)
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This music major? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1251)
I believe her name is Lydia. ("Beatles Medley Drunk?")
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She even has a wiki page.
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Am I the only one who found this comic to be a weird ... echo of 1795?
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I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
What's the postage like on that?
With new Priority Mail Flammable Flat Rate Boxes, you pay the same amount regardless of the weight of the poop you're mailing, and we guarantee it will stay on fire up to 7 days after delivery.
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Only tuning in because it just came to me that WCDT should mean weekly comic death threat.
Wankers, Cocks, Dumbasses & Tools
I could go on.
This seems most fitting.
(before you flame me I know very well I'm including myself as one of these)
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Now there's a case of Justifiable Momicide if I ever saw one.
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Am I the only one who found this comic to be a weird ... echo of 1795?
Very perceptive for a first post.
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o.m.g. Miss Reed, you're the best.
Am I the only one who found this comic to be a weird ... echo of 1795?
Nah, you're not, and poor Marten STILL can't find a way to stop the women in his life :(
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Funny how some parents always do their best to tend to their child when they're in pain, while at the same time can be oblivious to the fact that they can be causing far more pain by seemingly innocent actions. As daryljfontaine said, in each panel, Marten is actually saying more and more then just mom. You can almost hear him saying "What the hell are you doing? Dora and I just broke up the day before yesterday!"
However, I do agree with the theory that Veronica is trying to get her son to purge any anger and hostility he might be feeling, albeit in a heavy handed way. Now whether or not it works with Marten remains to be seen, as Marten does seem to have an almost preternatural ability to bottle up what he is feeling, at least until something breaks (i.e. anytime Marten snaps at someone, which we can probably count on one hand at the moment). Then again, parents always know exactly what buttons to press.
This week is going to be very interesting.
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Any time prior to the time when both people involved have supported them self (i.e., lived on their own for X amount of time outside of their parents' house and without relying on said parents for support) is a bad time.
This is massively culturally conditioned, and quite unsuitable for sweeping judgements like this. There are cultural groups, including my own, where living with your family until marriage is perfectly normal, and the divorce-rate among them, in Australia at least, is not higher than that of society as a whole, but often lower. Different strokes for different folks.
As for mothers trying to "fit up" their offspring, isn't this simply standard operating procedure? No less embarrassing though... :oops:
Can't say I'm surprised that England's penal commonwealth is like that. Strength in numbers though, gotta keep defenses up against the huntsman spiders (amongst other things).
Here in the erstwhile civilized world, though, having as many reasons to put off marriage until the people involved in the relationship have had time to survive some trials as adults is never a bad thing.
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I think we're seeing Ms. Reed's sense of humor at work, which may be the right way to jolt Marten out of stewing in self-pity. He's not moping now.
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I think we're seeing Ms. Reed's sense of humor at work, which may be the right way to jolt Marten out of stewing in self-pity. He's not moping now.
It should be interesting to see if she was being serious, half serious or just pulling Marten's leg. One can't quite tell at this stage.
And just what drama/awkwardness/mayhem is due to ensue when she goes to see Dora.
Anyone seeing her not doing that?
[EDIT] Oh hey, 2005 Posts - Cool [/EDIT]
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Man cmon Jeph everyone knows you don't make martinis with hendricks, its way more of a G&T/Sipping gin. It doesn't combine well with olives or Vermouth.
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I guess you could make one work if you muddled Cucumber, mint, and sugar then shook that with hendricks and garnished it with a cucumber slice it would probably be pretty delicious.
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This is massively culturally conditioned, and quite unsuitable for sweeping judgements like this. There are cultural groups, including my own, where living with your family until marriage is perfectly normal, and the divorce-rate among them, in Australia at least, is not higher than that of society as a whole, but often lower. Different strokes for different folks.
There are definitely merits in all cultures, and family should be a priority; however I can't help but see living with your family until you're married as a bit archaic.
Maybe I've been brainwashed by film, literature, and art that express the need to define oneself by oneself. Or is it because I live in America and truly believe that I must forge my own future? Or maybe it's because I see that a close knit family, while loving and supportive, can be an overbearing amount of pressure and sometimes unintentionally manipulative. Maybe knowing if I lived with my family until I got married, I would have a very hard time finding a mate makes me a skeptic of that tradition.
As for divorce rates go, I'm not surprised those marriages last longer.
However, I don't know how truly happy they might be.
If I lived with my parents until I was 25, I would be able to put up with a lot of crap. In fact, I would be okay with most living situations imaginable. So if I marry someone who I love, my parents love, and then a couple years down the line, I realize I resent everything about them, I could handle it for YEARS. Also, if the tradition is "live with your family, or marry," I'm naturally assuming shame comes into it, because really what tight knit family would be complete without it? That alone may keep someone in a marriage WITHOUT parental interference.
Now, I love me some family. I just see that tradition as smothering, and a recipe for unhappiness.
Then again, I am the 22 year old living with her 30 year old boyfriend almost 1,000 miles away from my parents. So I'm slightly biased.
As for the comic, I've always had the opposite experience (maybe because I'm a girl), to the point where my dad told a gentleman friend "I don't want my grandkids looking like you"
That was embarrassing enough, I can't fathom Marten's annoyance.
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"I'll have an arsenic espresso with a cyanide sidecar."
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This is massively culturally conditioned, and quite unsuitable for sweeping judgements like this. There are cultural groups, including my own, where living with your family until marriage is perfectly normal, and the divorce-rate among them, in Australia at least, is not higher than that of society as a whole, but often lower. Different strokes for different folks.
As for mothers trying to "fit up" their offspring, isn't this simply standard operating procedure? No less embarrassing though... :oops:
Can't say I'm surprised that England's penal commonwealth is like that. Strength in numbers though, gotta keep defenses up against the huntsman spiders (amongst other things).
Here in the erstwhile civilized world, though, having as many reasons to put off marriage until the people involved in the relationship have had time to survive some trials as adults is never a bad thing.
I'm pretty sure she's referring to being Chinese(?)-Australian actually. Hence saying the divorce rate is lower in her culture than the larger (read: mostly-white Australian) culture she lives within. :)
Personally I think you need a bit of life experience first, which generally means living away from home, but not necessarily. I've been with my partner since 18 (7 years), but I'm a freak, and coming from a fucked up background I have a fair amount of life experience.
I do think Ms Vance is being a tad cruel... and the art looks a little odd. But I'm down with it. :D
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New comic - echos of Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776)?
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Exactly what I was thinking.
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Oh Tai. You've managed to make even Veronica Vance kind of unsettled. :psyduck:
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Aside from their work arrangement, Tai might as well be Marten's little sister. Although that naturally conflicts with Hanners.
Hanners and Tai must fight to the death for the privilege of being Marten's ersatz sister! Two girls enter, one sibling leaves. It is the only way.
On a more serious note, not sure why Marten's mom just ran up and hugged Tai. Cute puppy syndrome?
Edit: Is Marten significantly shorter than average, or is his mom just fairly tall? Or is she wearing some sort of ridiculous heel apparatus?
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New comic - echos of Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776)?
Created an account just to say this
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Well Dora IS the "spitting image" of Veronica when she was young
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I really hope this isn't a sign of some sick and twisted oedipal complex.
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Not as long as Jeph is Jeph.
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New comic - echos of Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776)?
I'm sure Marten noticed too.....which would be just another reason he's not happy about this.
Poor Marten, I really hope he catches a break soon.
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Today's comic...yeah, creepy...
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New comic - echos of Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776)?
Definitely. Obviously Tai brings out Dora's and Veronica's instincts, bisexual or maternal. Or both. :-o
New-art Veronica grows steadily more awesome as Jeph get more settled into drawing her, I think.
I've just noticed, this is my 666th post! I would throw up the horns, but in Chinese culture 666 is a highly auspicious number often displayed in shop windows etc. (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2842901366_60290e2f91.jpg) In Mandarin, the word for six (liů) sounds like the word meaning sleek or smooth, so 666 carries the meaning "Everything goes smoothly" and is considered especially favourable for business transactions.
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Hmm.
Somehow I missed the part where Martens Mom is lesbian or bi ?
I thought thats Doras part.
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Hmm.
Somehow I missed the part where Martens Mom is lesbian or bi ?
I thought thats Doras part.
I don't see how anything in this comic states or implies that.
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I really hope this isn't a sign of some sick and twisted oedipal complex.
It's a sign that the endgame will reveal a massive time-travel/reverse-aging plot which will break Marten's mind forever. :psyduck:
Seriously though, if Marten recognized and acknowledged the echo between Dora's reaction to Tai and Veronica's, I think he'd be more than a little squicked himself.
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Hmm.
Somehow I missed the part where Martens Mom is lesbian or bi ?
I thought thats Doras part.
How is it Dora's part? There's a Tai-shaped elephant in that room... :psyduck:
I liked this comic, partly because it raised my hope that Hanners is next. :lol:
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I don't know what Marten's mother thinks she's playing at, but it certainly doesn't seem to be "trying to help Marten in his time of need". If I were Marten I'd be tempted just to walk off.
Usually in this situation, he'd head on down to Coffee of Doom and hang out with Faye and Dora...
You know what Dora really sucks.
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Yes.
(I swear I'm not a Dora hater but I'm kind of pissed at her right now)
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On a more serious note, not sure why Marten's mom just ran up and hugged Tai. Cute puppy syndrome?
Could be.
Just wondering if this, the waitress and whatever else is all part of a ploy to obstruct Marten from moving on in his current frame of mind. Once she's gone he'll be relieved and in a more positive frame of mind so will move on with less indie moping.
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I guess you could make one work if you muddled Cucumber, mint, and sugar then shook that with hendricks and garnished it with a cucumber slice it would probably be pretty delicious.
If you throw in Chartreuse Yellow it does amazing things with the cucumber in the Hendricks.
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Hmm.
Somehow I missed the part where Martens Mom is lesbian or bi ?
I thought thats Doras part.
I don't see how anything in this comic states or implies that.
Hmm.
Somehow I missed the part where Martens Mom is lesbian or bi ?
I thought thats Doras part.
How is it Dora's part? There's a Tai-shaped elephant in that room... :psyduck:
I liked this comic, partly because it raised my hope that Hanners is next. :lol:
OKOKOKOKOKOKOK !!
You two are right and I'm wrong.
She just says Tai is sweet.
Still reminded me a lot about how Dora reacted to Tai.
As other posters mentioned, too.
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I think, if Tai has a sister, she might be a waitress. They look freakishly similar, and Tai seems to be wearing a similar, white shirt under her green jacket.
I've just noticed, this is my 666th post! I would throw up the horns, but in Chinese culture 666 is a highly auspicious number often displayed in shop windows etc. (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2842901366_60290e2f91.jpg) In Mandarin, the word for six (liů) sounds like the word meaning sleek or smooth, so 666 carries the meaning "Everything goes smoothly" and is considered especially favourable for business transactions.
That's awesome. So in China everyone is into Satan and in America nothing goes smoothly... as seen from opposite, narrow perspectives, of course. :lol:
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IIRC in China black was the happy color and white the color of sorrow.
I only just mentioned the script below the comic ... why is Tai creepy ? I dont think she's creepy. She's just going with the flow. She's actually pretty funny.
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Oh Tai. You've managed to make even Veronica Vance kind of unsettled. :psyduck:
On a more serious note, not sure why Marten's mom just ran up and hugged Tai. Cute puppy syndrome?
I think Tai just has this effect on some people.
And she's used to it, enough to joke about it with everyone who reacts this way. It's not really creepy, but still, asking someone you just ment to be your mommy...?
Personally, I'm rather fond of the small butch ones, as well.
No, not that way. It really is more of a maternal parental thing, I think. Not sure why...
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Results of yesterday's poll:
What's going through Marten's mind right now?
First the hangover, now this? - 28
She is cute... - 13
Why is she doing this? - 17
What's on the bar menu? - 26
Pancakes - 20
Personally, I'd be thinking of a starchy and filling breakfast, my Dad (God love him) would have fixed me greasy eggs and bacon if I had a hangover like Marty.
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I think Tai just has this effect on some people.
How coudn't she? She's so small and huggable!!! ...er, maybe that sounded a little creepy...
ANY-hoo
i wonder, isn't Veronica making things a little worse? I mean, she travel over to see Marten and making him feel a little better right?
Or maybe she is pushing him, so he snaps and learns to stand up for himself??
Please, PLEASE let it be the second one, i want to see Marten grow a little out of all this mess...
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Holy whatever, I just realized that the Dora/Marten breakup is already more than a month old !
We have Dec 21 and the breakup started at Nov 16 and was finalized Nov 19 !
And we're still deep, deep, deep in the recovery phase, since more than four weeks !
This comic is really slow going.
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This comic is not a good reason to think Veronica is bi. (Of course, there's no real reason to think she isn't, either... kind of like Dora early on, except further to the straight side.)
I mean, by the same logic, you'd have to assume Marigold is bi for having picked out Momo. Everyone loves adorable little butch girls. Just watch, if she ever meets Scott, even he'll do it. And end up arrested.
There is, however, a joke about breastfeeding to be made somewhere.
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There is, however, a joke about breastfeeding to be made somewhere.
I just hope it isn't a set up for Pintsize to dish out some titty jokes.
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[i wonder, isn't Veronica making things a little worse?
I've done similar things to my now-22-year-old daughter. The thinking is:
Kids don't listen to or take advice from parents.
The kid's mind is wrapped up in a loop, (We broke up, I feel like crap, what am I going to do?, I feel like crap, [repeat])
Any breaking of the "misery loop" is good.
Kids are always pissed off at their parents anyway.
Therefore, I will take any outrageous action to break the concentration on misery, without regard for consequences to me.
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Hee. I keep reading today's strip and laughing at Panel 3... something about Tai's squished-askew glasses and "Hoif!" that sets me to giggling.
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I'm going to do the same thing to my tiny lesbian friend next time I see her.
However, she reads the comic as well, so at least she'll be smiling as she punches me. :-D
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You know what Dora really sucks.
Yes.
(I swear I'm not a Dora hater but I'm kind of pissed at her right now)
Why? :-o They were not compatible and Dora had issues that were making a mess of their relationship to the extent that Marten had been dissatisfied for ages, so she ended it (and is gonna work on her issues now). The fact that Marten was apparently completely unable to end something that wasn't working for him (Dora was happy with Marten, if often insecure/jealous--Marten was the one sighing at night, getting more and more secretly bitter, and measuring Dora up against Faye & Angus), and also went totally off the rails after shows, in fact, how necessary Dora's decision was. Within their relationship, she was the dysfunctional one (and Marten shouldn't have put up with half her shit) but in retrospect it's being shown that Marten's totally codependent, and needs a lot of work himself.
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Veronica is officially my favorite mother ever.
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my anti-dora bias is clear, strong, and doesn't give a fuck.
However, I think Zadojla hit it on the head. I think it's gonna work, too, and I'm looking forward to seeing the explosion.
Wouldn't it be awesome if Dora walks up on/in on the explosion in question? Marten flailing his arms and screaming at the top of his lungs, opens the door and gets a face full of alien wing wong thrown pintsize.
"Goddamnit, what fucking NOW"
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I don't know gathayah, if I were Marten by about this point I'd be seriously contemplating downing another fifth of bourbon, and damn the consequences (even as I endured the hangover/head injury from the last downing).
As for Marten needing therapy for codependency, I'm not sure he'll ever realize that or seek it out. Men tend to be more reluctant to seek therapy than women, something about it being an admission of weakness or something like that...
EDIT: not sure Marten's gonna blow up at his mother either. He's already nursing a head injury that tells him he said or did something horrible to Faye the previous night, and she won't tell him what. Just knowing that much probably makes him feel bad. Blowing up at his mother would be cathartic, sure, but he'll just end up feeling worse afterwards.
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[i wonder, isn't Veronica making things a little worse?
I've done similar things to my now-22-year-old daughter. The thinking is:
Kids don't listen to or take advice from parents.
The kid's mind is wrapped up in a loop, (We broke up, I feel like crap, what am I going to do?, I feel like crap, [repeat])
Any breaking of the "misery loop" is good.
Kids are always pissed off at their parents anyway.
Therefore, I will take any outrageous action to break the concentration on misery, without regard for consequences to me.
Whoa, that seems really... rational actually, so she IS really trying to improve things!
My respect for Veronica grew 10 times now :psyduck:
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As for Marten needing therapy for codependency, I'm not sure he'll ever realize that or seek it out.
I'm not sure that Marten is really codependent; some leaning in that direction is also considered healthy behaviour in a family or community. On the whole, I suspect he is less codependent than I was before my therapy - and that was never severe enough for anyone to give it the label.
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I think if Marten was truly codependent, he would have put up a much bigger fight when Dora said it was time to call it a wrap.
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Fine, if not codependent, then just unable to make any relationship decision with his own priorities in mind whatsoever.
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I think if Marten was truly codependent, he would have put up a much bigger fight when Dora said it was time to call it a wrap.
I wouldn't ecpect a fight, exactly. More what human communications specialists call "disconfirmation": "No, you don't really mean that, what you mean is [fill in the blank]"
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Veronica is officially my favorite mother ever.
I dunno; she still has to go a long way to beat "LewieP's Mummy" over at Penny Arcade who is a) the actual mother of one of the other posters (LewieP in case it wasn't obvious), b) Much, much more talented, popular, and generally likeable than her son and, c) the head moderator's favourite, which is quit a feat since he generally hates all life everywhere, without fear or favour.* Oh and d) does this sort of thing to LewieP all the time, only on teh internet, which I think makes it fifty-three times worse/better.
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Hmmmmmm
Tai should definitely bottle and patent her 'Cuteness Factor' :-D
Still, gotta feel sorry for Marten, this is one day he'll definitely wanna forget in a hurry.
I suspect there's more drama on the way though.
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Like I said, he may be budgeting for another fifth of bourbon, or maybe even vodka, by the day's end...
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Maybe Marten is on the verge of using another bottle of bourbon, but what would happen? His mother would hit him in the head with it. Now, how to react to that? I don't have a friggin' clue! :psyduck:
On a completely unrelated note, just that it happens this week: What are your guesses for the christmas treat? Last year it was boys, in 2008 there was girls, and before that were the coloring panels... I'm guessing for AnthroPC cheesecake. And then a week of Sweet-Tits, that guy from last year, Yelliing Bird and Randy... should be fun :)
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I think if Marten was truly codependent, he would have put up a much bigger fight when Dora said it was time to call it a wrap.
I wouldn't ecpect a fight, exactly. More what human communications specialists call "disconfirmation": "No, you don't really mean that, what you mean is [fill in the blank]"
But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him. One of his girlfriends makes plans to move cross-country and seems less than enthused about continuing their relationship past-graduation, and tells him straight up when he asks that she doesn't want to do the long-distance thing, and he reacts to all of these signs screaming "this relationship is not going to last" by uprooting his entire existence and following her to the East Coast.
Then his more recent girlfriend acts in batshit-crazy ways all the time, and instead of insisting on discussing it with her or holding her to it, he just swallows it and stews on it in private, until such a time as he is blatantly unsatisfied with the relationship, and yet he STILL doesn't say anything until Dora's next blow-up forces it out of him, and then STILL thinks that the two of them should have stayed in the relationship for some reason.
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On a completely unrelated note, just that it happens this week: What are your guesses for the christmas treat? Last year it was boys, in 2008 there was girls, and before that were the coloring panels... I'm guessing for AnthroPC cheesecake. And then a week of Sweet-Tits, that guy from last year, Yelliing Bird and Randy... should be fun :)
"Grown up" versions of the anthro-pcs; Momo is in the same dream-form she used to seduce dream-Sven, Winslow looks sort like a male version of Eve from Applegeeks, Roomba looks more like a hovercar and pintsize looks just like he always does (because pintsize is incapable of growing up etc).
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But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him.
Or, if one wasn't locked into a Marten-is-the-devil perceptual filter;
Giving up his life and propoerty to move across the country after a woman who was saying "I don't want to live three thousand miles away from you", when she meant "I'm tired of you and I want some fresh dick", then ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.
I suspect the 'truth' may be somewhere between these two extremes, however.
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But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him. One of his girlfriends makes plans to move cross-country and seems less than enthused about continuing their relationship past-graduation, and tells him straight up when he asks that she doesn't want to do the long-distance thing, and he reacts to all of these signs screaming "this relationship is not going to last" by uprooting his entire existence and following her to the East Coast.
I think this is just a case of Marten being unable, or unwilling, to take a hint. Many people are bad at this, especially when they're young, inexperienced in relationships, and usually male. I hold Vicki more responsible for this fracas than Marten, she should have just straight up told him she wanted to end the relationship BEFORE she moved, so Marten would have no illusions of hope.
But if she had done that Marten would probably still be in California and we never would have met him, right? ;)
Then his more recent girlfriend acts in batshit-crazy ways all the time, and instead of insisting on discussing it with her or holding her to it, he just swallows it and stews on it in private, until such a time as he is blatantly unsatisfied with the relationship, and yet he STILL doesn't say anything until Dora's next blow-up forces it out of him, and then STILL thinks that the two of them should have stayed in the relationship for some reason.
In any relationship, there will be some crap you've got to deal with from the other person-NO ONE is perfect, ANYONE will have something about them that irks your nerves. Whether that's something to dump them over in ENTIRELY up to the person being irked. What you'd dump someone for, someone else might not even be bothered by or decide it's not worth upsetting the apple cart over. Every relationship goes through less-than-blissful periods, whether the relationship lasts is how the tough times are handled. Would Marten have eventually dumped Dora over her insecurities, or would Dora have started therapy before it got to that point? We'll never really know since Dora did the dumping, and there's some suggestion that she may have done so out of fear that Marten would've dumped her first.
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But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him.
Or, if one wasn't locked into a Marten-is-the-devil perceptual filter;
I don't think JackFaerie thinks Marten is the devil, just a bit too clueless and willing to put up with entirely too much crap from women he wants to date-which I don't entirely disagree with. He certainly put up with Faye's crap far too long-compared to that, his time with Dora was an easy Sunday morning.
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But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him. One of his girlfriends makes plans to move cross-country and seems less than enthused about continuing their relationship past-graduation, and tells him straight up when he asks that she doesn't want to do the long-distance thing, and he reacts to all of these signs screaming "this relationship is not going to last" by uprooting his entire existence and following her to the East Coast.
The way I read his backstory, it seemed moving across the country wasn't just about the girl, and that he really didn't have much to give up on. But then again, I don't think that was 'screaming signs', I probably wouldn't have 'got it' myself. As themacnut said, quite a few people are surprisingly bad at this. On the other hand, I am somewhat aware of my disabilities in that matter, and probably I'd simply ask her...
I suspect the 'truth' may be somewhere between these two extremes, however.
I suspect that you are right.
And on the christmas treats... what if Eve guested the comic? She's done so before, right? Then the question is: WWPS - What Would Pintsize Say???
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And then a week of Sweet-Tits, that guy from last year, Yelliing Bird and Randy... should be fun :)
Jeph has said he was thinking of a few strips with Hanners answering some questions in-comic - but maybe he changed that to the formspring idea to avoid breaking the fourth wall.
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"Grown up" versions of the anthro-pcs; Momo is in the same dream-form she used to seduce dream-Sven, Winslow looks sort like a male version of Eve from Applegeeks....
Surely Winslow would be based on his robo-boyfriend mode...
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ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.
Exactly. And then he is all "woooeeeee is me whyyyyyy did she end it, I wanted to stay in a relationship with that emasculating psychobitch forever even though I hated how she treated me!" Something wrong, no? She didn't "dump" him though. She (fairly gently) ended it because it was obvious to pretty much anyone else (including everyone here going "omg he should dump Dora she doesn't even let him stand up for himself!") it was pretty over.
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She didn't "dump" him though.
say what now?
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Giving up his life and propoerty to move across the country after a woman who was saying "I don't want to live three thousand miles away from you", when she meant "I'm tired of you and I want some fresh dick", then ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.
I suspect the 'truth' may be somewhere between these two extremes, however.
Not to start World War Dora 2: Dora Boogaloo, but I don't remember her ever being anything less than truthful with Marten. I also don't remember her ever lying about him or trying to make him look bad. The only example of a double standard I can think of is the little fight about the hair, which even she admitted was stupid and a bit of new relationship jitters.
I am also wondering about your comment that Vicki was just looking for some fresh dick. I understand that we are supposed to sympathize with Marten, but I dont think we need to turn his long term girlfriend who handled a break up pretty terribly into a heartless slut. Not every woman in Marten's life is evil, and he is no saint.
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I am seriously tired of people taking Marten's sigh in this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1328) out of context. People, that day he and Dora got into a major fight about bullshit, then resolved it, and then ran into the source of the fight just when they thought they were in the clear. Did you ever consider that maybe he was sighing just because he had a shitty day?
And I reject the premise that Marten was dissatisfied with his relationship with Dora. Other than "the sigh" (which is really too ambiguous to prove anything), what proof is there? The Toto strip? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1739) Marten's look there probably means unsettled confusion more than anything. Remember, he has no idea why Faye asked him about Toto, but it intrigued him. So he asks Dora, and gets a harsh answer and a brush-off. I think his look in the last panel is saying "What the hell does this all mean?"
Marten was always affectionate towards Dora; he was never distant or cold to her, they had a healthy sex life, he bought her "just because" presents. When she first hinted that she wanted them to live together, his first response was "I'd love it if you moved in! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1577) (he only started freaking out when she proposed he move out and they live alone together; it's important to note his initial reaction was positive) If he was truly dissatisfied with their relationship, he would have just let Dora go when she walked out here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1797). Instead, he goes looking for her because he wants to talk it out. Not something someone who subconsciously wants the relationship to end would do.
Marten was fed up with Dora's double-standards and her jealousy, not with their overall relationship.
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Oh man, totally forgot about Applegeeks. That's where I found QC! I stopped reading after they stopped updating regularly and when they came back, Hawk completely changed the art style.
You know, I don't really understand the hatred of ANY character in this strip. I mean Marten has some growing up to do, but he's 23! Dora has some issues, but NOBODY around her can help her because she's older than them all and NO MATTER WHAT has more to deal with.
The relationship is over, can we just focus on recovery?
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Would it be so very very wrong if I started shipping Tai/Veronica?
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If it makes you happy you can, but just do it in your head, please.
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Marten is making me think of a poster one of my professors would put up in her office "If you start your day off by swallowing a life frog whole nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day"
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I don't think even that will work for Marten.
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Veronica grew a moustache today.
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I am also wondering about your comment that Vicki was just looking for some fresh dick. I understand that we are supposed to sympathize with Marten, but I dont think we need to turn his long term girlfriend who handled a break up pretty terribly into a heartless slut. Not every woman in Marten's life is evil, and he is no saint.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=254
on a re-read, I have very little problem with my earlier statement. Would it be so very very wrong if I started shipping Tai/Veronica?
Yes.
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I just want to say a couple of things about the supposed Marten/Dora dissatisfaction
The whole "Toto" event and Dora essentially telling Marten to fuck off. Did we not find out a couple of weeks around that period that Dora worked 60 hours weeks. So she presumably works 10-12 hour days, and probably gets into work before Faye or Penny and usually leaves afterwards (paperwork, taxes, ordering supplies, etc). Most people nowadays don't sleep the recommended 8 hours a night. Which doesn't leave a lot of time to relax, especially when it takes time to wind down after work. So, for the most part, Dora would be tired and stressed. And when sleep is that rare, you can kind of snap at people over little things. Just give an example. My first year in college, I had classes from 9am until 8pm on Mondays, and 9am until 6pm on Tuesdays and the same on Thursdays and Fridays. I lived 30 miles away and would have to get the bus which meant getting up at 6am. Suffice to say, I didn't sleep much that first year. I lived with my girlfriend at the time (who had about 6 hours of classes a week), so it would kinda be, I'd get in around 10pm, slump into bed and try and get a couple of hours of sleep. Sometimes my girlfriend would come in and ask a Toto-esque question, just as I would have fallen asleep. And I would snap, just as Dora did. Didn't mean I didn't love her, or that I was dissatisfied with the relationship, its just a simple case of being exhausted and all patience being gone. Ironically we broke up a couple of years later because we spent too much time together.
As for Marten sighing after the Cosette incident. What? No one has ever laid awake at night and sighed? Hell I do it every night, even if my girlfriend is asleep right next to me, usually because I have a lot on my mind, ranging from wondering if that report for work is up to scratch, have I paid all the bills for this month, what should I get my Dad or sister for Christmas, to even from just having a bad day. Marten and Dora had their first big argument of their relationship and settled it. Even if the sigh was about Dora, it was probably more to do with the fact that they had an argument that really shouldn't have been. If Marten really had been dissatisified about the relationship would he be that torn up about it like he is now? The guy looks like his heart has been ripped out and fed through a paper shredder. Is that the reaction of a dissatisified man out of a relationship?
Anyway, back to today's comic. There are just some people in life who induce the need to give them a hug. Cobra is looking to determine the precise combination of pheromones in a dastardly plot to take over the world as the population is giving each other hugs.
And Hannahsaurusrex.....Where did you get the idea for Marten's age out of curiousity?
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I don't think even that will work for Marten.
Oh, I don't think it will either exactly, I just mean more in the vein of it triggered the thought, and if brought up I imagine Marten disagreeing heartily...then pintsize bringing him a live frog.
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Marten is making me think of a poster one of my professors would put up in her office "If you start your day off by swallowing a life frog whole nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day"
Showing either the limited imagination/experience of the professor, or the poster maker.
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Marten is making me think of a poster one of my professors would put up in her office "If you start your day off by swallowing a life frog whole nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day"
Showing either the limited imagination/experience of the professor, or the poster maker.
I've had days where that would have been the high point of the day.. as has Marten, for that matter. It'd be a judgment call, but he may be having one of those days _right now_
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I think... in this situation... Martin is the frog.
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You know, I don't really understand the hatred of ANY character in this strip. I mean Marten has some growing up to do, but he's 23!
Wait, he -is-?
Ohh okay, things make a lot more sense.
I thought he was like 26-28 or something.
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But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him.
Or, if one wasn't locked into a Marten-is-the-devil perceptual filter;
Giving up his life and property to move across the country after a woman who was saying "I don't want to live three thousand miles away from you", when she meant "I'm tired of you and I want some fresh dick", then ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.
I suspect the 'truth' may be somewhere between these two extremes, however.
I suspect the truth is that Marten doesn't end relationships well. Of course, there are few people out there that can end relationships well.
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You know, I don't really understand the hatred of ANY character in this strip. I mean Marten has some growing up to do, but he's 23!
Wait, he -is-?
Ohh okay, things make a lot more sense.
I thought he was like 26-28 or something.
We really don't know. Jeph's been coy about time lapse in the strip, but it's entirely possible that he was about 24-25 when we first saw him.
Whatever it is, I'd suspect Veronica is probably twice his age, which would mean she's a fifty-something cougar.
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No evidence of cougarism, although I'm sure she'd take on younger clients...
Is it being a cougar if you're being paid?
Veronica grew a moustache today.
Come on - the laugh lines are getting much better over the last two days. Give the guy a break - most of the people he draws that are about this age have beards!
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And Hannahsaurusrex.....Where did you get the idea for Marten's age out of curiousity?
Well, Jeph started this thing when HE was 23, Dora is older than them and her age was 26 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=144)
I apologize, I should have said 23-ISH.
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In 162, Marten refers to "my college tuition last year", so at a normal graduation age of 22 he'd have been about 23 then.
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Wait, he -is-?
Ohh okay, things make a lot more sense.
I thought he was like 26-28 or something.
Let's see... in #1782 Sven says that he's 28. Dora is a year younger than Sven, so she's 27. Marten's two or three years younger than Dora, so he's 24 or 25.
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Good lord, if Dora's only aged about a year and a half since strip 144...
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Good lord, if Dora's only aged about a year and a half since strip 144...
Yeah, we've got some immense time dilation going on.
The resulting issue is that unless Jeph skips forward or invents some sort of wacky circumstances to explain it, Marten is probably going to be single for at least another year our time, and moping over Dora for several months. Which will lead people to become aggravated that Marten isn't moving on fast enough for their tastes, which will lead to shipping.
The only solution is to find all of the other Parallel universes where Jeph draws QC and let them share work, so that the comic updates hourly, and lovingly drawn for a month each, after which each individual Jeph will take an 11 month vacation while receiving the full benefit of working on the strip more than full time. Now I just need a flux capacitor, and a Tardis, and some way to hook the two together...
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In 162, Marten refers to "my college tuition last year", so at a normal graduation age of 22 he'd have been about 23 then.
Unless he meant that in the sense of paying off student loans, which he mentioned to Jimbo (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=37) that he has plenty of.
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Hannerdad might have a machine that distorts time. Actual time travel, however, is ruled out by Hannelore on Formspring.
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Is Marten's mom bi? Have we ever gotten any hint one way or another on how she rolls?
Cause, ya know, I could live with TaiMom.
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Not sure Marten could. Can you imagine your mom sleeping with your boss?
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Isn't being a professional dominatrix enough? You want her bi, too? sheesh.
Tai will find someone. Have patience.
And it probably won't be a May/November sort of thing.
Edit: Akronnick, that is a truly painful thought!
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Everything we know of has been het.
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I will mail a flaming box of poop to the first person who suggests I "haven't met the right person".
sigged
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There is, however, a joke about breastfeeding to be made somewhere.
I just hope it isn't a set up for Pintsize to dish out some titty jokes.
i hope it is :D
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Wouldn't it be awesome if Dora walks up on/in on the explosion in question? Marten flailing his arms and screaming at the top of his lungs, opens the door and gets a face full of alien wing wong thrown pintsize.
"Goddamnit, what fucking NOW"
I can so totally see this mental image as clear in my mind as a bright, cloudless winter day after a blizzard. It is beautiful.
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Just fyi, I'm watching Jeph draw the comic right now and someone asked him if Veronica is tall or if Marten is short. His reply: "She's his height but wears big heels." So there you are.
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Ok, I have a kinda on-topic question.
What exactly about Tai screams 'butch'? her clothes seem kinda neutral, her hair isn't oppressively short or anything, and her glasses are downright girly. Nevertheless, both Dora and Ms. Vance can see it a mile away. Is it a voice thing?
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I think Tai's butch-ness is mostly in her attitude; she's very gung-ho, kind of aggressive, adopts more than a few traditionally boyish gender-role behaviors. Basically she acts like a stone-cold pimp, and is, and that is kinda butch.
Also I hope we're done resurrecting previous weeks' arguments for the sake of things to be hyperbolic about in the absence of actual bitching material, cause that is fucking silly, guys.
(oh please don't let Dora show up and like 1,500 new people come here to talk about how Dora is a HUGE BITCH, BLUH BLUH)
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But in either case, seriously, something is wrong with him.
Or, if one wasn't locked into a Marten-is-the-devil perceptual filter;
Giving up his life and propoerty to move across the country after a woman who was saying "I don't want to live three thousand miles away from you", when she meant "I'm tired of you and I want some fresh dick", then ending up with another woman who lies to him, about him, and about what she wants from him, then enforces a brutal double standard on him, and dumps him when he dares to say the first thing in his own defense.
I suspect the 'truth' may be somewhere between these two extremes, however.
Marten's story would generate, at least, two hours of reading time on http://www.fmylife.com .
When did Dora lie about Marten?
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Marten is making me think of a poster one of my professors would put up in her office "If you start your day off by swallowing a life frog whole nothing worse will happen to either of you for the rest of the day"
With one or two of my professors, swallowing a live frog every day might have been the least odd thing about them...
Veronica is a true professional.
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I think Jeph has perfected Veronica's look in today's comic. She is fantastically drawn. That, and I love her the most. Especially her arched eyebrow when disappointing poor Tai. Have pity, Veronica, she just wants to be the Padawan to your clear Jedi Master-ness.
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TaiMom.
I've already said we're not going there - read before you post, and take note.
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Duh, Veronica. You'd think she's notice who he takes after more after raising the damn kid. Even during Henry's (Marten's dad) short visit I could tell Marten was more like him than her.
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TaiMom.
I've already said we're not going there - read before you post, and take note.
YOU'RE not going there. Clearly Tai wishes to go there, although Veronica had to let her down somewhat. (Maybe she knows someone who could float her a loan........)
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@Grave: I suspect she knows, it's more one of those things moms repeat over and over again, especially around new people. It's also a classy takedown to Marten's moaning, as only a mother can deliver.
@CEO: ...yeah dude you may not want to argue with the forum mod, I mean seriously
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Love Tai's PING! look in panel 3. Reminds me of the Pokemon games where a trainer illicits a ! above their head when they want to battle.
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She's being supportive, but she's also his mom. Moms and dads will sometimes embarrass you, even (especially) when they are helping! It's kind of a thing that they do, and you learn to deal with it! Or you, um, subject them to passive-aggressive bullshit like you suggested, I guess.
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The embarassment of one's offspring is an ancient and delicate art, one passed down from generation to generation, yet always new. And believe me, said offspring provide more than enough material!
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Yesterdays strip remind me of something:
In the Gay scene, i've heard of Leather Daddies and the like....is there a Lesbian equivalent?
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She's being supportive, but she's also his mom. Moms and dads will sometimes embarrass you, even (especially) when they are helping! It's kind of a thing that they do, and you learn to deal with it! Or you, um, subject them to passive-aggressive bullshit like you suggested, I guess.
That's not passive-aggressive. Requesting someone stop doing something you dislike, and then removing yourself from the situation if they refuse is what those worthless social skill classes always teach you.
There's a time and place for everything, and your child's worst few days in recent memory probably aren't the right time to be embarrassing him.
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Did this make anyone else wonder if Marten has some kind of slight Oedipus complex? Because isn't that almost EXACTLY what Dora did?
My apologies if someone else said this first and I didn't see it... these threads are so LONG.
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Except those social skills classes kind of do not apply to the woman who gave birth to you and raised you from childhood, and applied to her they are pretty passive-aggressive. I guess if you have a really bad family situation that shit applies? Maybe? I don't want to fucking go into that. Marten, the person who matters here, has a mother who loves him and who walking off on would be shitty and childish.
It's also, to me, pretty clear Veronica was doing it to get a reaction and make him stop stewing in his own BLUH BLUH, which is what he wants to do.
If anything, Marten's reaction here is a good one--he goes "Mooooommm, GOD", and she goes "oh shhhh" and that is how things work because she's his mother.
If it was one of his friends doing this? Sure, walk away! But it's his mom.
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Well, I do know that us parents do some pretty strange and embarrassing things for and to our children, but I wouldn't have done that myself. Not least because I wouldn't have the nerve to anyway.
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I don't see Veronica going with Tai to the goth club...but I can totally see her making Marten go along as Tai's wingdude. :-D
...maybe while at the club they'll encounter a vomiting Allosaurus and thence run into Raven or Natasha.
...hey, I can dream, can't I? : (
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Scrolling down (rather slowly for RAM issues) from the top, I first took the second panel as Veronica thinking "hang on - you're a lesbian?!" It was not until I actually saw the panel that it occurred to me that would have made absolutely no fucking sense.
I want to see gothy Marten now. Of course, with his luck, guess who else will have had the idea of picking up a rebound at the goth club...
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Looking back at this, it worries me that the most support Marten has gotten from someone partially involved a knockout punch.
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Except those social skills classes kind of do not apply to the woman who gave birth to you and raised you from childhood, and applied to her they are pretty passive-aggressive.
This, so much this.
I'm trying to think of a time when Mom hasn't embarrassed me when she thinks she's helping, and I'm only getting a handful. Usually I'd be so focused on the embarrassment by the end of it, my angst over whatever problem I was having that was "OMG THE END OF THE WORLD" was put into perspective and became more like, "Well, this sucks" instead.
In short, to your parents, your humiliation is about healing.
EDIT: I'm also kind of surprised at how many people voted for Christmas fan service in the poll. Aren't we on the naughty list this year?
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Of course we're on the naughty list - one "Aw Shit" cancels out ten thousand "Attaboys", or at least seems that way.
Predictions for the rest of the week
Wednesday - build up, Thursday - cliffhanger, Friday - Christmas fan service 27 (30%)
Sod that - three days of fan service 9 (10%)
We're going to end the week at CoD, aren't we? 10 (11.1%)
Yelling Bird 6 (6.7%)
Beginnings of the Jeph/Winslow epic story arc (should last til next Christmas) 12 (13.3%)
Whatever the Hell Jeph wants 26 (28.9%)
Given the clear request of the fans, I think fan service is in order, but to keep it original - can I have a cup of black coffee instead?
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Hum, is it me, or since Veronica is gradually losing the lines on her cheek?
Seriously, there is a certain difference from #1820 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1820) to #1823 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1823)
But anyway, i wonder how high are Veronica's rates...
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Ok, that sounded WAY less creepy in my head
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But anyway, i wonder how high are Veronica's rates...
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Ok, that sounded WAY less creepy in my head
I wonder WHY she would have any rates for THAT in the first place.
I wouldnt have thought that "Helping lesbians to pick up women at certain places" would be part of her job.
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I think Jeph has perfected Veronica's look in today's comic. She is fantastically drawn. That, and I love her the most. Especially her arched eyebrow when disappointing poor Tai. Have pity, Veronica, she just wants to be the Padawan to your clear Jedi Master-ness.
I agree with the drawing part. I'm not sure what Jeph thinks, but I'm pretty sure that's what VV looks like, compared to her previous appearances in the strip.
By the way, on the subject of Bi-ness: she did mention that some of the people she worked with were women or very convincing drag queens. It's entirely possible that she did do a bit of column A and a bit of column B in her BDSM work.
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I want to see gothy Marten now. Of course, with his luck, guess who else will have had the idea of picking up a rebound at the goth club...
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
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But anyway, i wonder how high are Veronica's rates...
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Ok, that sounded WAY less creepy in my head
I wonder WHY she would have any rates for THAT in the first place.
I wouldn't have thought that "Helping lesbians to pick up women at certain places" would be part of her job.
Ah, but "Escort Service" would be part of her job description.
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I think you're confusing Marten's mum for a whore. There is a not insignificant difference between prostitute and professional dominatrix. Should you ever feel the need to engage the services of a sex worker in the future, I would strongly suggest you learn the difference.
Although in an emergency, just ask if they use the feather or the whole chicken.
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Hum, is it me, or since Veronica is gradually losing the lines on her cheek?
Seriously, there is a certain difference from #1820 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1820) to #1823 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1823)
I get the feeling Jeph just felt he'd overshot the mark once 1820 was actually up, and scaled it back a bit. I don't really see much of a difference between 1821 and today.
By the way, on the subject of Bi-ness: she did mention that some of the people she worked with were women or very convincing drag queens. It's entirely possible that she did do a bit of column A and a bit of column B in her BDSM work.
Even if she went as far as actual sex, a risk I can't imagine someone of her notoriety would take, I don't think I'd count that sort of thing. She's not Inara, whom we personally saw turn people away just for being unattractive; if she took on a senator who said we needed "more Jesus in the Constitution," even (especially) if he was paying double, I'm guessing she was rather mercenary about her clients.
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Even if she went as far as actual sex, a risk I can't imagine someone of her notoriety would take, I don't think I'd count that sort of thing. She's not Inara, whom we personally saw turn people away just for being unattractive; if she took on a senator who said we needed "more Jesus in the Constitution," even (especially) if he was paying double, I'm guessing she was rather mercenary about her clients.
Maybe being a dominatrix is more fun if you think your clients are actually deserving of the thorough humiliation and beating you're about to bestow?
And I don't imagine professional dominatrices get a lot of work from female clients, the only ones I can see doing so are the people like Hannelore's mom (but hopefully not her specifically), who are extremely dominant in everyday life.
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Said Boomslang, unwittingly stumbling on an imminent plot device of epic embaressment karma.
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New poll and I'm disappointed at the lack of other. I'm voting for the powers of Curtis Donovan.
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She's being supportive, but she's also his mom. Moms and dads will sometimes embarrass you, even (especially) when they are helping! It's kind of a thing that they do, and you learn to deal with it! Or you, um, subject them to passive-aggressive bullshit like you suggested, I guess.
Yes, exactly. I pretty much know (because it's my daughter) exactly how far I can go. And if I accidentally piss her off, I just stop, and she's back in 15 minutes, because I'm her dad. Parent/child relationships are like none other, because, barring pathological behavior, it comes the closest to unconditional love.
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
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Here Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the roots of why Marten is such a wimpy, weak little sap. His own mother emasculates him in public, and then when he rightfully complains about it, she calls him "uptight!" She treats him like he was one of her submissive clients rather than her son.
And he was just looking to repeat the pattern with Dora. To fall into his familiar, comfortable role as the punching bag. It's really true what they say...we always wind up dating people exactly like our mothers or our fathers.
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
In real-Northampton, it being a small city, there aren't that many clubs - one of them (which is likely also "that gay nightclub down on Pleasant Street," even though it's only sort-of gay) holds a goth-themed Tuesday, and that's the only one I know, and presumably the only one he knows. Of course, neither living in Northampton nor being especially gothic or much of a club hopper, I wouldn't know; moreover, this is not real-Northampton, this is funny-robot-allosaurus-world-Northampton, where there are all the clubs Jeph needs there to be.
Said Boomslang, unwittingly stumbling on an imminent plot device of epic embaressment karma.
...no. Bad Seldom Killer. Bad. You get the...
...oh, I see your game.
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You'd think she'd give a discount to her sons boss and friend - But I doubt that, even then, Tai could afford her on her wages. :-D ;)
Her words do imply that she would be willing to do it if Tai could afford it though, so I would assume that she does work both sides of the street - so to speak - when she wants to. Whether she's actually Bi though is another matter.
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That may also have been a polite way of saying "I'm not interested".
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That may also have been a polite way of saying "I'm not interested".
Could be, but her reaction in the previous strip suggests there is some sort of interest there.
Even if it's only the Cute Puppy Syndrome.
And I get the feeling that Veronica would be more up front, if polite, about turning Tai down if that were the case.
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OK, first, mega-props to Elysiana for the Cthulhu-summoning-Marten alternate panel earlier in the thread -- definitely made me lol. Second, Tai hugging Veronica in the last panel of yesterday's strip reminded me of Pintsize hugging Dora and Faye waaaaaayyy back before they knew him well enough to go near him (strip 152, I think). Similar mix of cute, funny, and creepy too. ^_^ Regarding today's strip, Tai says she wishes her Mom would help her pick up chicks, but odds are if her actual Mom actually tried to do that, then Tai would be about as embarrassed as Marten was. Careful what you wish for, lil' butch one.
I'm wondering if Jeph's D&D character will ever debut in a filler strip and lop Yelling Bird's (or Randy's) head off. What? It'd grow back . . .
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Pretty sure if you lopped Randy's head off, not only would the body grow a new head, but the head would grow a new body...
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WE Are Eternal...
:psyduck:
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OK, what the hell has Marten been telling Mom? Surely nothing bad?
On the other hand Hannelore has been getting a lot better lately, so whatever it was could have been plain truth not so long ago...
P.S. New comic's up, go check it out guys.
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Is it really necessary for Veronica to keep saying things like this? Talk about tactless.
Then again, what the hell did Marten tell her about Hannelore? I'd like to think he wasn't talking bad about her but "OH HEY SHE'S ACTUALLY PRETTY NORMAL" implies that he told Veronica that Hanners was a fucking nutcase or something. Or at least that's the way I interpreted it. I could be wrong.
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Check out the transformation of her hair from panel 1 to 4. Probably done on purpose, but still humorous.
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Aaaannd Marten's embarrassment is complete. Complete with Hannelore potentially upset at him for telling his mom she's nucking futs (note that's what she may THINK Marten told his mom, not what he may have actually said). Yeah I'll bet that fifth of hard liquor is looking better and better...
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D'aw kudos to Hannelore, you can tell how hard shes trying to make a good impression; she got dressed up and did her hair (I assume; I mean it looks different but Jeph just might be drawing it different now). I especially like the third panel, how she's tentatively reaching out to shake hands while kind of "bracing" herself with her other hand; you can tell she's not used to shaking hands.
I'm sure Marten never said anything like "Man you won't believe this whacked-out crazy bitch I know!" He probably just told his mom about Hanners' extreme OCD which, lets face it, until very recently was pretty bad.
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Apparently, most of you believe that Marten's all about what he wants rather than what he needs this holiday season.
What would Marten want for Christmas
Mom to be slightly less embarassing 4 (8.3%)
The greasy, queasy knot in his stomach to go away 13 (27.1%)
His friends to be less "OMG!' around Mom 13 (27.1%)
Yelling Bird 2 (4.2%)
Coupons from "Roscoe's Discount Liquor Hut" 7 (14.6%)
A day of reflection on all the good his life does have 9 (18.8%)
Just back from seeing Trans Siberian Orchestra with the family and am a little deaf now, but damn that was an awesome show.
Here's an early poll to go with the early comic.
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Check out the transformation of her hair from panel 1 to 4. Probably done on purpose, but still humorous.
I do so love Hanners' psychomorphic hair - it's also one of the things I think they did quite well w/Tonks in the HP films.
Also, is anyone else getting a distinct Velma vibe off Hanners' jumper there?
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That would be "very vivid Velma vibe".
In 980, Hannelore seemed at peace with the notion that she's a nutjob.
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...and Marten's slow-motion tumbling descent down the world's largest flight of stairs continues.
It seems strange to feel this badly for a fictional character, but I can't help myself. Dude's been absorbing chain-nutshots for a good few weeks here.
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Except those social skills classes kind of do not apply to the woman who gave birth to you and raised you from childhood, and applied to her they are pretty passive-aggressive. I guess if you have a really bad family situation that shit applies? Maybe? I don't want to fucking go into that. Marten, the person who matters here, has a mother who loves him and who walking off on would be shitty and childish.
It's also, to me, pretty clear Veronica was doing it to get a reaction and make him stop stewing in his own BLUH BLUH, which is what he wants to do.
If anything, Marten's reaction here is a good one--he goes "Mooooommm, GOD", and she goes "oh shhhh" and that is how things work because she's his mother.
If it was one of his friends doing this? Sure, walk away! But it's his mom.
Actually, the only time those social skills classes work is with people that you are really close to. Otherwise you generally need to apply a firmer hand to not get walked on. And no, it still doesn't count as passive-aggressive. It still doesn't fit the passive part or the aggressive part. Aggressive would be threatening to go back home and drink another bottle of whiskey, passive would be not doing anything. Passive-aggressive would be not doing anything until he gets home, at which point he gets blackout drunk again. Asking politely but firmly for her to stop would be assertive.
Aggressive would also be pretty ironic, given that emotional blackmail is supposed to be how parents keep their children in line, not vice versa.
If your parents think that the right way to make you feel better immediately after a rough break-up is making your day even worse, I'm very sorry.
That said, it's a comic. It's not supposed to be realistic.
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Ha! I thought, I bet there'll be an early comic tonight. But that was much earlier than I expected.
Nice work with the fingers in every panel. I hate fingers.
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I don't think Marten has told Veronica anything but the truth about Hanners - embarrassing incidents and all.
Oh dear - is that as bad as it sounds? I hope not.
Hanners hair; It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!!!! :-D
Crash stop of the week? Faye and Veronica in the same room.
Hooooooo boy!
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I suspect he told her how they met. Which should be weird enough as it is.
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Except those social skills classes kind of do not apply to the woman who gave birth to you and raised you from childhood, and applied to her they are pretty passive-aggressive. I guess if you have a really bad family situation that shit applies? Maybe? I don't want to fucking go into that. Marten, the person who matters here, has a mother who loves him and who walking off on would be shitty and childish.
It's also, to me, pretty clear Veronica was doing it to get a reaction and make him stop stewing in his own BLUH BLUH, which is what he wants to do.
If anything, Marten's reaction here is a good one--he goes "Mooooommm, GOD", and she goes "oh shhhh" and that is how things work because she's his mother.
If it was one of his friends doing this? Sure, walk away! But it's his mom.
Actually, the only time those social skills classes work is with people that you are really close to. Otherwise you generally need to apply a firmer hand to not get walked on. And no, it still doesn't count as passive-aggressive. It still doesn't fit the passive part or the aggressive part. Aggressive would be threatening to go back home and drink another bottle of whiskey, passive would be not doing anything. Passive-aggressive would be not doing anything until he gets home, at which point he gets blackout drunk again. Asking politely but firmly for her to stop would be assertive.
Aggressive would also be pretty ironic, given that emotional blackmail is supposed to be how parents keep their children in line, not vice versa.
It sounds to me like we are applying different standards to Marten's behavior! It also sounds to me like the way you think a child should interact with their parents and the way I think a child should interact with their parents are so different that it is like we are from two different planets, and I will drop the matter because I don't see this going in a constructive direction.
If your parents think that the right way to make you feel better immediately after a rough break-up is making your day even worse, I'm very sorry.
I didn't ever say that that was--what? I don't even know where you're getting that. What I said was that sometimes parents will embarrass you, and I implied that this was sort of a fact of life, and that maybe what Veronica did, by her standards, was pretty normal parental behavior. Again, though, we appear to have really different standards!
WE Are Eternal...
I keep picturing Randy doing the whole Sovereign dialogues from Mass Effect and it works too well oh God ;_; HE IS THE HARVESTER OF WORLDS
And to keep the top post kind of going in a not shitty direction, I'm pretty sure he's just told her anecdotes about this friend of his who does things like stay up 40+ hours and has really severe OCD and is from Space.
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Randy is Sauron
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That said, it's a comic. It's not supposed to be realistic.
It's a comic, but it's one with what Malli_Kite called "internal logic". The characters don't do things at random. They have personalities, and their actions flow from those. They do things that real people might (or might do if they owned robots, that is).
For instance, in all the debate about the motives and wisdom of Ms. Reed's actions, nobody yet has said "no mother would ever do that!".
Which makes it absorbing to read, but also means that cartoonish exaggeration has an uneasy coexistence with psychological realism.
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I don't think I've ever seen Hanners without bags under her eyes and- OH GOD HANNERS IN FIRST PANEL IS THE CUTEST THING EVARRRRR!!!! AHGBLAUHGLABUGHALAH!!!!one
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Dang it, had finally been able to register, and just wanted to say how freaking cute Hanners looks in the first panel (as well as the rest of today's comic), but Exar Kun beat me to it. :psyduck:
I'm curious as to what Veronica's motives are in all this. She (allegedly) came to help Marten get over his breakup, but her bluntness seems to be doing more harm than good for Marten's psyche.
Then again, by doing so she's giving Marten a reason not to dwell on the whole breakup, so that might be what's going on too. Time will tell!
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I like the sweater Hanners is wearing, I see a lot of girls wearing them lately and the sweaters are pretty cute.
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I cannot tell a lie; Hanners is very cute in today's comic. But just how many Martinis did Marten's Mum have at lunch? Not much of an internal censor there! Rule Of Funny... :-D
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But anyway, i wonder how high are Veronica's rates...
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Ok, that sounded WAY less creepy in my head
I wonder WHY she would have any rates for THAT in the first place.
I wouldnt have thought that "Helping lesbians to pick up women at certain places" would be part of her job.
in her line of work time = money PERIOD, she get's paid when she spends time with people for their benefit
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Fewer shippers FTW.
Was about to say....please don't make this evolve into Hanners bunking with Marten.....please!!!!!
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The perfectly normal ones are always the most screwed up. Or, as I like to saying, "Normal people are so weird."
I think I'll start a band called "The Perfectly Normal Weirdoes".
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Cute Hanners: My favorite is still #1313 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1313). Cutest Hanners ever !
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You know what Snubnose? Everyone seems to like that Hannelore comic for some reason! :mrgreen: So, to get all the Hanner-d'aww out of the way: Yes, Hanners does look very cute today. I especially like how her hair becomes more frizzy the more worried she gets! As we've seen before, her hair is pretty untameable. (sp?)
I'm excited for Jeph's resolution for the week (ending with Faye I think.) But I think I'll really enjoy his Christmas comics, the Hannelore Q&A and all that jazz! :-D
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NICE TACT MOM
I wonder WHY she would have any rates for THAT in the first place.
I wouldnt have thought that "Helping lesbians to pick up women at certain places" would be part of her job.
in her line of work time = money PERIOD, she get's paid when she spends time with people for their benefit
Little business cards that say "Veronica Vance: Professional Dominatrix and Booty Acquisition Consultant"...
Was about to say....please don't make this evolve into Hanners bunking with Marten.....please!!!!!
Hanners herself ruled out having roommates already if I remember correctly, based on the severity of her own issues.
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Pretty sure if you lopped Randy's head off, not only would the body grow a new head, but the head would grow a new body...
Ouch. That would make for a badass Angband monster. Lernean Hydra squared.
And, yes, Hannelore's hair morphosing is just so. I also like the 'foof' (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1321) effect.
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Wait, Hanners now shakes hands? Isn't that extremely unhygienic?
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After some thinking I kind of wonder if Martens mom migfht be trying to get him angry at her or provoke an emotional response that isn't 'soul crushing despair'. It might not be what he needs at the moment but it keeps his mind off the immediate depression and it might help provide perspective.
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Would you deny Mrs. Reed a handshake if she were expecting one?
I suspect a little OCD scrubbing is far preferable to saying no.
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My take on this comic?
Hannelore's trying to impress Martin's Mother. Her hair looks as though it's been flattened/brushed (*apparently recently) to get ready to meet her.
*You can watch her hair revert back to it's usual fluffyness as the comic proceeds, haha.
I'm not going to infer anything more than that for the sake of this post being taken out of context. :-P
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I want to thank Jeph for making a week of nice maternal shenanigans and general silliness while my other favorite comic, Homestuck, has been riding a tide of relentless fucked-up horror.
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Really, woman? She says three sentences, and you can already tell enough about her personality to blurt out something like that? I thought Mrs. Reed was smarter than this.
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It sounds to me like we are applying different standards to Marten's behavior! It also sounds to me like the way you think a child should interact with their parents and the way I think a child should interact with their parents are so different that it is like we are from two different planets, and I will drop the matter because I don't see this going in a constructive direction.
I actually get that a surprising amount. It might have to do with my mother having been trained as a social worker before she had kids. Or it just might be a coincidence of the way she raised me.
I didn't ever say that that was--what? I don't even know where you're getting that. What I said was that sometimes parents will embarrass you, and I implied that this was sort of a fact of life, and that maybe what Veronica did, by her standards, was pretty normal parental behavior. Again, though, we appear to have really different standards!
Sorry, that was more responding to... somnus? Somnolus? Something eternus. Has a monkey as his picture.
Is it Cold In Here, sure, it has internal logic. I was saying that my objections didn't apply to the comic, that's all.
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Wait, Hanners now shakes hands? Isn't that extremely unhygienic?
She's doing it in a way that you can tell she's really making an effort and that it's not normal for her. Her "shake" hand is barely outstretched, and her other hand is curving inward, suggesting a touch of fear or apprehension.
Or I might be reading too much into it. Coin toss.
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*You can watch her hair revert back to it's usual fluffyness as the comic proceeds, haha.
I'm not going to infer anything more than that for the sake of this post being taken out of context. :-P
I suddenly saw an image in my head of Hannelore getting an order for a drink at COD and her hair going back to fluffy-curly all at once as the order was given.
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Wait, Hanners now shakes hands? Isn't that extremely unhygienic?
She's doing it in a way that you can tell she's really making an effort and that it's not normal for her. Her "shake" hand is barely outstretched, and her other hand is curving inward, suggesting a touch of fear or apprehension.
Or I might be reading too much into it. Coin toss.
Not at all, Jeph's gotten really good with body anguage, and as an OCD sufferer himself, gets it right with Hanners in this strip. The other hand "curving inward" as you put it actually looks more to me like it's against her chest, holding back her anxiety over extending her hand to a stranger. The slight stammer just emphasises it.
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I hate how Marten keeps looking more and more depressed.... :psyduck:
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*You can watch her hair revert back to it's usual fluffyness as the comic proceeds, haha.
I'm not going to infer anything more than that for the sake of this post being taken out of context. :-P
I suddenly saw an image in my head of Hannelore getting an order for a drink at COD and her hair going back to fluffy-curly all at once as the order was given.
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/WdOdin/webcomic064.jpg)
EDIT: I'm waiting for Marten to snap and launch into an "I'm not one of your clients, Mom; so stop with the make-my-son-feel-like-shit behavior!".
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Awww, poor Hanners! She's trying so hard to be accepted as normal too!
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I adore Hanners in this. I think it's awesome that as the comic progresses, her hair poofs back up. :D
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But just how many Martinis did Marten's Mum have at lunch? Not much of an internal censor there! Rule Of Funny... :-D
Could be martinis, though I see no drunk bubbles. Embarrassing your son is one thing, Ms. Reed, but insulting the polite stranger you just met is a jerk move, whatever you may have heard. Tactless indeed. Looking forward to further cast interactions!
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Maybe being super-polite and inhibited is Marten's way of rebelling.
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
In real-Northampton, it being a small city, there aren't that many clubs - one of them (which is likely also "that gay nightclub down on Pleasant Street," even though it's only sort-of gay) holds a goth-themed Tuesday, and that's the only one I know, and presumably the only one he knows. Of course, neither living in Northampton nor being especially gothic or much of a club hopper, I wouldn't know; moreover, this is not real-Northampton, this is funny-robot-allosaurus-world-Northampton, where there are all the clubs Jeph needs there to be.
Actually, I think it was simply a Hitchhiker's Guide reference.
"It must be Tuesday. I never could get the hang of Tuesdays."
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Yeah.
Never mind. Here, here's six Beers and a packet of Peanuts.
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
In real-Northampton, it being a small city, there aren't that many clubs - one of them (which is likely also "that gay nightclub down on Pleasant Street," even though it's only sort-of gay) holds a goth-themed Tuesday, and that's the only one I know, and presumably the only one he knows. Of course, neither living in Northampton nor being especially gothic or much of a club hopper, I wouldn't know; moreover, this is not real-Northampton, this is funny-robot-allosaurus-world-Northampton, where there are all the clubs Jeph needs there to be.
Actually, I think it was simply a Hitchhiker's Guide reference.
"It must be Tuesday. I never could get the hang of Tuesdays."
I believe that would make it a Thursday. Of course, it has been some time since the last time I read it.
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Poor Hanners just can't catch a break.
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
In real-Northampton, it being a small city, there aren't that many clubs - one of them (which is likely also "that gay nightclub down on Pleasant Street," even though it's only sort-of gay) holds a goth-themed Tuesday, and that's the only one I know, and presumably the only one he knows. Of course, neither living in Northampton nor being especially gothic or much of a club hopper, I wouldn't know; moreover, this is not real-Northampton, this is funny-robot-allosaurus-world-Northampton, where there are all the clubs Jeph needs there to be.
Actually, I think it was simply a Hitchhiker's Guide reference.
"It must be Tuesday. I never could get the hang of Tuesdays."
I believe that would make it a Thursday. Of course, it has been some time since the last time I read it.
I just checked (I have the book on my Kindle) and it's indeed Thursday :)
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
In real-Northampton, it being a small city, there aren't that many clubs - one of them (which is likely also "that gay nightclub down on Pleasant Street," even though it's only sort-of gay) holds a goth-themed Tuesday, and that's the only one I know, and presumably the only one he knows. Of course, neither living in Northampton nor being especially gothic or much of a club hopper, I wouldn't know; moreover, this is not real-Northampton, this is funny-robot-allosaurus-world-Northampton, where there are all the clubs Jeph needs there to be.
Actually, I think it was simply a Hitchhiker's Guide reference.
"It must be Tuesday. I never could get the hang of Tuesdays."
I believe that would make it a Thursday. Of course, it has been some time since the last time I read it.
I just checked (I have the book on my Kindle) and it's indeed Thursday :)
Is it bad that I knew he was wrong without needing to look up the book?
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Not at all.
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For comic #1824...
1. Don't Panic. :psyduck:
2. Love Hannelore's hair in panel #1, was kind of hoping that Hanners would be doing a hair-change, in lieu of Dora's year-quarterly (or would be "quarterly-year" for every three months...?) changes.
3. More Hannelore & Miss Reed strips would be great, but we have a lot of QC cast-members to get through while Marten's mom is around. And I think we will be ending this holiday weekend with a Faye & Miss Reed strip.
4. I think Miss Reed's reaction to Hanners, after the initial surprise, is really more of a compliment than a worry. After all, look how far everyone's favorite OCD CoD barista has come since first stalking a heart-broken indie boy, in character development. It should be a relief to Hannelore that her first impression is "normal." (whatever "normal" means... I have yet to find a really good, tangible, definition)
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Most people will understand just plain "quarterly" to mean every three months. Especially anyone who's ever had anything to do with a product release schedule.
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I'll just throw in my two cents and say poke-slut Hanners is the cutest: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1660
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Why is it that every time, I read that as pokéslut? Too much exposure to Pokémon at a young age?
:psyduck:
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Pretty sure if you lopped Randy's head off, not only would the body grow a new head, but the head would grow a new body...
Ouch. That would make for a badass Angband monster. Lernean Hydra squared.
And, yes, Hannelore's hair morphosing is just so. I also like the 'foof' (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1321) effect.
Came here for this.
At first I almost didn't recognize her b/c her hair was so...coiffed I guess the term would be. Of course by panel 3 and 4 it was obviously Hanners.
Love the hair progression! :D
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Holy quote funnel batman! :psyduck:
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Marten's mom could really have embarrassed him by pulling out the pictures while he was still in the room.
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Baby pictures FTW!
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Aaaaaaaand today's comic makes me glad that most of my baby photos (read as embarressing) are locked away in a safe location where no one can ever see them. I wanted to torch them but noooooooo, they're precious memories. Thats funny, coz I can't remember being a baby!
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She doesn't seem to be the kind of mom who would bring baby pictures with her when she visits her kid.
I'd expect whips, handcuffs, and chains, but not baby pictures.
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She's the sort of mom who would knit a Worry Hat.
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She doesn't seem to be the kind of mom who would bring baby pictures with her when she visits her kid.
I'd expect whips, handcuffs, and chains, but not baby pictures.
Sure, she's pretty open about what she does, that doesn't mean she has to pack her work gear when she's goes on vacation. She's visiting her kid, not a client.
Also, am I like the only parent in the world who doesn't carry a photo album in her purse? 'Cause people on movies and tv always seem to have kid pics to pull out at the drop of a hat.
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I have a few in my wallet...
Most of them are horribly outdated. The most recent ones of my kids are over ten years old, and the one of my wife is her HS graduation photo...
'sokay. Nobody's got pics of me. We found one from several years back recently, and most people's reaction was, "Gee, you look really weird with all that hair!"
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Also, am I like the only parent in the world who doesn't carry a photo album in her purse? 'Cause people on movies and tv always seem to have kid pics to pull out at the drop of a hat.
Ms. Reed probably regrets that she didn't have them the last time she was there to show his friends.
Good to see she has SOME tact to not pull that out while he was in the room.
She doesn't seem to be the kind of mom who would bring baby pictures with her when she visits her kid.
I'd expect whips, handcuffs, and chains, but not baby pictures.
Why the hell would she have those things when she visits her friggin kid? I'm sure she has the magical ability to separate her job from being a mother.
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Ah baby pictures-the parental WUH (Weapon of Ultimate Humiliation). Glad mine were lost years ago.
"Lost"-Heh heh heh...
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Does that album say "Marten Reed" or "Master Reed"?
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I was very excited to see Veronica again, but she's managed to make me dislike her in the space of only six strips.
Pretty hard to do when there's only one other character that I actively dislike in the entire strip.
I just hope Marten works himself up to ripping into her. If he wanted to get embarrassed, he could just go make a public scene at CoD.
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I actually quite like VV the past few strips, seems like a mom. My mom has done pretty much the same thing in the restaurant and with baby pictures.
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'ripping into' your mom :psyduck: kids these days
and the album looks like it says 'm scribble t scribble' to me. but i'm blind.
alas, i swore to myself i would only lurk.
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alas, i swore to myself i would only lurk.
We have you now!
Mwuh-ha-ha-ha!
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'alas, i swore to myself i would only lurk.
Check out the POINTLESS THREAD II: ESCAPE FROM RAPTOR MOUNTAIN in the awkward self-aware makeout zone part of the forum. its 281 pages of awesomeness.
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My mom is dead, but when she was alive she didn't do this kind of shit. Of course my parents were almost never around long enough to embarrass me. My mom was more concerned about me not embarrassing her.
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To paraphrase "Baseketball":
"It certainly does seem to be raining shit on Marten Reed right now."
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Oh my god, Veronica wouldn't.
Oh who am I kidding? I'm as eager as everyone else to see Marten's reaction next week.
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Week after next.
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We found one from several years back recently, and most people's reaction was, "Gee, you look really weird with all that hair!"
Sounds familiar. My loss of hair was visible before I hit 20. So I had little choice but try and become a mathematician. After all, our profession is the one were a receding hairline adds to your street credibility.
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I don't think I've ever seen Hanners without bags under her eyes and- OH GOD HANNERS IN FIRST PANEL IS THE CUTEST THING EVARRRRR!!!! AHGBLAUHGLABUGHALAH!!!!one
That's why she looks different!
What does "White Flash" mean?
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My guess is it's a musical reference of some kind. 'cause, you know, Jeph never puts those into the titles of his comics. :wink:
Either that or it refers to the blinding light that precedes the mushroom cloud in a nuclear explosion, and Marten's reaction to being humiliated in absentia will be spectacular.
D
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"The White Flash" is a song by Modeselektor featuring Thom Yorke of Radiohead. Damn good, too. :-)
There's couple ways it could go in terms of what it has to do with this comic but I'm not sure. Anyway here's the song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9C5PIqAgFw); give it a listen and decide for yourself - it is very pleasing.
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Wait, BABY Pictures?
Why do I feel dirty right now?
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Men have the Awkward Zone.
Women have Baby Pictures.
I'm going back to looking for a :psyduck: .
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Hmm, the nap seemed a little contrived as a plot device but I can see it being worth it.
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I believe that would make it a Thursday.
Or the long dark tea-time of the soul.
Baby pictures. Do parents take them because they want to be reminded of our generally rather unattractive appearance as infants? Or is it some kind of sick long-term investment for future lulz? Or is it a subtle pressure on us to breed and produce grandkids, because then they'll carry round pictures of them instead.
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Ask cute as this all is, I'm going to buzzkill a little bit with some plot speculation.
Faye comes over and does some squeeing with the rest of the folks, then Marten wakes up and everyone goes for food. Dora walks past the restaurant by accident, looks inside to see everyone laughing and joking away, then bursts in with a "ZOMG You're stealing all my friends!", panics and then runs off into the wilderness.
Oh, and then the restaurant collapses and everyone dies.
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I have never carried baby pictures - well... maybe some pictures of my 2-4 year old grandchildren... well, they're just attachments in the email in my iPhone, not actual pictures... and anyway, they are the cutest... So don't judge me! (please?)
and then the restaurant collapses and everyone dies.
The universe ends and we all go home (or somewhere).
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'ripping into' your mom :psyduck: kids these days
"Kids"? I'm 27!! :-P
...admittedly, there might have been a better phrase I could have used. :laugh:
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As a kid of 19, I had a perfectly elegant response that my mind created today from this strip. To summarize:
:psyduck: qwrebfauisbgasbrgviruhaifalfghahufuaiwhfasfas...bluh. :psyduck:
After my brain did a hard reboot, I resumed my laughing at Marten's situation, knowing that it'll karmically bite me in the bum later. >.>
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She's the sort of mom who would knit a Worry Hat.
And the baby pictures would fit, too. I mean, she's a Dominatrix; what's the best way of humiliating a person?
EDIT: As an addendum - I'd almost wonder if, at this point, Jeph might be considering writing Dora out of the comic.
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But Jeph has said Dora is his favorite character (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=592) - though admittedly a long time ago.
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Cannot read Jeph's mind, so I dare not predict how big a role Dora will have in the immediate QCfuture. For the moment I'm sticking with the theory that for keeping Christmas peace Jeph decided to go with lighthearted humor at Marten's expense and get him started on a climb out of his funk.
In these parts the Christmas officially started 2 hours ago at noon. So from amidst a foot of snow and nibby -24 degrees centigrade (about -10 degrees Fahrenheit) I wish all the QCfans all the best at this holiday season!
I'm off to start looking for the missing bits of a Santa costume. My nephews depend on their uncle to show up later tonight. We are closer to the pole, so the local kids will come face to face with Santa in the evening of 24th.
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But Jeph has said Dora is his favorite character (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=592) - though admittedly a long time ago.
I doubt he hates Faye or Hannelore and he's given them a fairly rough ride. It's a mark of a good writer to accept when a character has come to an end, regardless of their feelings for them.
I'll point out that I am in no way whatsoever speculating either way as to whether this is going to happen or suggesting that Dora has been exhausted as a character. Merely providing a viewpoint on the creative process.
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I believe that would make it a Thursday.
Or the long dark tea-time of the soul.
Baby pictures. Do parents take them because they want to be reminded of our generally rather unattractive appearance as infants? Or is it some kind of sick long-term investment for future lulz? Or is it a subtle pressure on us to breed and produce grandkids, because then they'll carry round pictures of them instead.
Akima, as a parent I simply need to ask why can't it be both?
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But Jeph has said Dora is his favorite character (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=592) - though admittedly a long time ago.
I doubt he hates Faye or Hannelore and he's given them a fairly rough ride. It's a mark of a good writer to accept when a character has come to an end, regardless of their feelings for them.
I'll point out that I am in no way whatsoever speculating either way as to whether this is going to happen or suggesting that Dora has been exhausted as a character. Merely providing a viewpoint on the creative process.
Also, to some authors the term "favourite" carries an implied "chew-toy" on the end...
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I believe that would make it a Thursday.
Or the long dark tea-time of the soul.
Baby pictures. Do parents take them because they want to be reminded of our generally rather unattractive appearance as infants? Or is it some kind of sick long-term investment for future lulz? Or is it a subtle pressure on us to breed and produce grandkids, because then they'll carry round pictures of them instead.
Akima, as a parent I simply need to ask why can't it be both?
It's revenge I tell you. Revenge for all the shit (literal and figurative) that kids put their parents through. Notice how the WUH* is employed-shown to SOs and friends of the child in question, targets that will most likely razz the child about the pictures at the time and some time afterwards. And this is always done in spite of any squirming or protests of the child in question-the parent will NEVER respond to any requests, entreaties or threats against deploying the weapon.
There is only one way for the child in question to prevent deployment of the weapons-find and DESTROY all copies. I know. Don't ask how.
*WUH=Weapons of Ultimate Humiliation
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I don't think Dora has been "exhausted as a character", nor would she be removed from the comic.....yet (Jeph could make the following discussion moot)
She owns Coffee of Doom, one of the main focal points of the comic, one of only two main places where all the characters can possibly meet up, the other being of course, Marten's apartment. She employs two of the main cast as well as two of the secondary characters. Her best friend is also her ex-boyfriend's best friend, not to mention hilarity ensuing when Dora and Marten see each other again. Not only that, but right now we can see a huge potential development in Dora's character, either going to therapy and coming out on the other side a better person, or sliding deeper and deeper into a spiral of self-destruction. Both are extremely possible and both offer the chance for Jeph to really show off his writing skills, especially the self-destruction route (This might be the sadist in me, but I love seeing characters being dragged down past rock bottom and finally standing on the edge with a choice.)
Like her or not, Dora Bianchi is here to stay.
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More than half of you think that Marten has been telling no lies about one of our fav characters - no surprises really.
What has Marten been saying about Hanners?
Nothing but the truth 60 (57.7%)
Sorry, were not allowed to talk about that anymore, it's creepy 24 (23.1%)
Nothing, she's just messing with him. 16 (15.4%)
Something he'd tell no one else 2 (1.9%)
Other (please specify, but not if it will get you banned) 2 (1.9%)
Total Voters: 104
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My mom always threatens to show my girlfriends my baby photos, so that's why I never invite them over to meet the parents.
HEAR THAT, MOM?! IF THOSE PICTURES ARE EVER BROUGHT OUT, I SWEAR TO GOD NO GRANDCHILDREN!
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But Jeph has said Dora is his favorite character (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=592) - though admittedly a long time ago.
Funny, I thought Hanners was his favorite character... Of course, Hannelore hadn't really been much more than an incidental character by 592.
Heh, could you have imagined what Dora would have done if SHE would have found Hanners and Marten in that, uh, compromising position 60 strips earlier (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=532)?
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Dora was his favorite but has been moved down to third position by Hannelore followed by a tie between Faye and Pennelope.
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My loss of hair was visible before I hit 20. So I had little choice but try and become a mathematician. After all, our profession is the one were a receding hairline adds to your street credibility.
Hair or no hair, mathematicians' street cred is pegged at 3: http://xkcd.com/356/ (http://xkcd.com/356/)
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Only because it takes a little more to distract us.
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Wheeee! Baby pictures! :-D
Seriously, baby pictures are fun. I have no issues with my parents showing mine. There's one where I literally look like Shirley Temple, it's hilarious! :laugh:
Why all the angst about baby pictures? Seriously, you were a *baby* it's not like you were tremendously responsible for your actions or something. :psyduck:
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It's gonna be interesting to see what happens when Faye gets there and sees the baby pics.
I wonder just how cute Marten was as a baby, and how embarrassing those pics are. :-D
I can see several things happening as far as the Dora thing goes
1) Marten gets roped into her therapy sessions and, quite possibly, their relationship rekindles on a new level
2) As above, but no relationship renewal. Perhaps a better friendship? One can hope.
3) Dora faces her issues, and somewhere along the line gets tangled up with her Therapist (Depending on whether it's Dr. Corrine or not)
4) Jeph pulls a 'Left Field' and somehow Tai and Dora hook up. (Not likely, but there is always the "Infinite Improbability Drive Factor')
Permutations are endless, but that's the four top 'Top Of My Head' ones ATM
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Even that (Hannelore > Faye = Penelope > Dora) was posted 2 years ago... given how rarely Penelope appears these days, I wonder if she's slipped.
Does that not make Dora the #4 favorite?
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Next week: all baby pics all the time.
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Personally, I would find having a fetish model for a mom creepy, but not nearly as creepy as having her show my friends my baby pics.
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Personally, I would find having a fetish model for a mom creepy, but not nearly as creepy as having her show my friends my baby pics.
Well, its kinda half the reason why Marten never tells anyone who his mother is, often people freak out or have an embarressing fangirl moment, like Dora.
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It's Cosette's turn to clean up the... wait, what the hell is that?
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After scrolling through the walls of text in this thread, I have only one question:
How did you say 'HAUGHLAGHL' in your head when you were reading it? I can't even begin to imagine how hilarious it would actually sound.
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As a clue, it is almost a quote from this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44124397025@N01/2953167991/), which Jeph re-tweeted shortly before drawing the comic.
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Heh, could you have imagined what Dora would have done if SHE would have found Hanners and Marten in that, uh, compromising position 60 strips earlier (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=532)?
Probably depends on when it happened. After all, in #1314 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1314) she was all over Marten getting a look at Hanners. This was after she knew them both pretty well, of course. If it'd been earlier on, it's difficult to say. I suspect part of it is Hanners itself, she just doesn't set off Dora's possessive instincts.
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She doesn't seem to be the kind of mom who would bring baby pictures with her when she visits her kid.
I'd expect whips, handcuffs, and chains, but not baby pictures.
Why the hell would she have those things when she visits her friggin kid? I'm sure she has the magical ability to separate her job from being a mother.
Pintsize begs to differ.....if he can speak thru that gimp mask of course. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=447)
Also, I smell conflict when Hanners calls up Faye and Faye let's slip that Veronica is in town to Dora sometime in the next week or so worth of strips.
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^ Cue a slow motion shot of a coffee cup falling to the ground, shattering, and Dora with an expression of horror on her face.
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You know, I don't think Marten is going to be embarrassed by his mom showing his friends his baby pictures.
I think he's more likely that he'll react more like "Ooh! Did you show them the one with <really embarrassing description>?"
I think Marten is OK with his child hood.
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It's gonna be interesting to see what happens when Faye gets there and sees the baby pics.
I wonder just how cute Marten was as a baby, and how embarrassing those pics are. :-D
I can see several things happening as far as the Dora thing goes
1) Marten gets roped into her therapy sessions and, quite possibly, their relationship rekindles on a new level
2) As above, but no relationship renewal. Perhaps a better friendship? One can hope.
3) Dora faces her issues, and somewhere along the line gets tangled up with her Therapist (Depending on whether it's Dr. Corrine or not)
4) Jeph pulls a 'Left Field' and somehow Tai and Dora hook up. (Not likely, but there is always the "Infinite Improbability Drive Factor')
Permutations are endless, but that's the four top 'Top Of My Head' ones ATM
Highly, highly doubtful, as Faye has repeatedly stated that Dr. Corrine refuses to take on anyone else in her social circle. If she was willing to, Faye wouldn't have had to get a referral from Dr. Corrine for another therapist, but would have just given Dora her phone number.
I'm banking on #2.
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Also, I smell conflict when Hanners calls up Faye and Faye let's slip that Veronica is in town to Dora sometime in the next week or so worth of strips.
^ Cue a slow motion shot of a coffee cup falling to the ground, shattering, and Dora with an expression of horror on her face.
You just KNOW it's gonna happen.
PANEL 1
FAYE (On cell phone): Cool, Hanners, I'll be over right after I get off work!
DORA (entering from right): What was that about?
PANEL 2
FAYE (clicking off her phone): Hanners is looking at Marten's baby pictures with Tai over at the apartment.
DORA (looking down at the cash register): Oh, really? I don't remember Marten having any of those laying around when I was over there.
FAYE: That's because Marten's mom brought them with her from California...
PANEL 3A
FAYE (looks wide-eyed at DORA as she realizes what she just said)
DORA (looks straight ahead, wide-eyed with a frozen gaze of terror)
PANEL 3B
FAYE (looks at DORA with a note of concern): Dora? C'mon, she's not gonna...
DORA (still looking straight ahead, wide-eyed with a frozen gaze of terror)
PANEL 4A
FAYE (looks at DORA in fear): Dora?
DORA (looking right into FAYE's eyes, still with a gaze of terror): ...
PANEL 4B
DORA (grabbing FAYE by the shoulders): SHE'S GONNA KILL ME!
FAYE (shaking like PENELOPE in 1531 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1531)): N-n-no sh-sh-she w-w-won't p-p-please s-stop sh-sh-shaking m-me
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Yep, Marten is gonna need a restraining order. I just hope that Faye can be the voice of reason.
Who am I kidding. The queen of snark? 8-)
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She doesn't seem to be the kind of mom who would bring baby pictures with her when she visits her kid.
I'd expect whips, handcuffs, and chains, but not baby pictures.
Why the hell would she have those things when she visits her friggin kid? I'm sure she has the magical ability to separate her job from being a mother.
Pintsize begs to differ.....if he can speak thru that gimp mask of course. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=447)
Also, I smell conflict when Hanners calls up Faye and Faye let's slip that Veronica is in town to Dora sometime in the next week or so worth of strips.
Her previous visit was also partly business. This is a purely personal visit so I doubt she's got her "props."
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Her previous visit was also partly business. This is a purely personal visit so I doubt she's got her "props."
If she's bold enough to tell Martin to come into the family business, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=448) she would have some toys in her bag.
(And for some odd reason, I can't find the strip where Martin is talking to Veronica on the phone and she tells him he would look good in a corset.)
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This one:
Marten Looks Good In A Corset (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
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It must be Tuesday in the comic.
How do you know?
In real-Northampton, it being a small city, there aren't that many clubs - one of them (which is likely also "that gay nightclub down on Pleasant Street," even though it's only sort-of gay) holds a goth-themed Tuesday, and that's the only one I know, and presumably the only one he knows. Of course, neither living in Northampton nor being especially gothic or much of a club hopper, I wouldn't know; moreover, this is not real-Northampton, this is funny-robot-allosaurus-world-Northampton, where there are all the clubs Jeph needs there to be.
I'm a girl. But yeah, pretty much what you said. Diva's (which holds drag queen nights, so is a little more than sort of gay :P) turns into the Haven on Tuesdays. I wasn't really being serious but I had just gotten through reading a comic timeline guessing thread, so I felt like throwing that out there. I don't know of any other goth clubs.
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This one:
Marten Looks Good In A Corset (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
Hai, Arigato.
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Tá fáilte romhat.