I hope Friday's strip was the "climax." Hopefully Veronica will have the aptitude to realize that continuing this party will only result in more awkwardness and decide it's time to say goodbye to his friends and go back to Marten's apartment for a good mother-son talk. Of course given Veronica's recent track record I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't have the aptitude for that kind of realization.gosh i so get you its like when you go to a friends's house and they start arguing about couple issues or even small things its awwwwwkwarrrd
Besides, if I were Tai or Hanners right now, I'd be dying to get out of there, seriously. I hate being in the middle of shit.
Am I the only one hoping for the return of Raven here? :-D Okay, granted it doesn't make alot of sense. But now that you mention Dora's old coven, I can't help but wonder where they all ended up. Isn't it weird that of the entire QC cast, Dora is the one we've known the longest with the least ammount of history?
Am I the only one hoping for the return of Raven here? :-D Okay, granted it doesn't make alot of sense. But now that you mention Dora's old coven, I can't help but wonder where they all ended up. Isn't it weird that of the entire QC cast, Dora is the one we've known the longest with the least ammount of history?
Though Raven's return to comfort Dora (not that way, get your minds OUT OF THE GUTTER) could be helpful for Dora, I don't see Jeph just "happening" to bring her back at the right moment. Too much of a deus ex machina.
Sorry, I can't tell if you're mocking me or sincerely agreeing with me.oh sorry i was truly agreeing with you always i go to a friend's couple house for dinner or somethign they star arguing
Welp, it's finally happened.
Faye killed Pintsize.
Poor little guy.
It's a good turn, I think. But it's also a bit unsatisfying. And the message Veronica is giving makes me gag a bit.I don't think this is Jeph trying to give the story a "good turn" so much as to wrap up just how Veronica parents. Which is to say, in a rather insincere manner. Especially considering how much time she spent walking all over him. She seemed to think she could just show up, treat him like a client, whisper a few magic Carol Brady words and fix her son.
I've seen disney movies that were deeper and more genuine, is all.
Going back to the hotel?
That strikes me as a bit odd. Unless a hotel is particularly brilliant, most people wouldn't be inclined to go back unless they had to, particularly on their own. Perhaps she's taking on a bit of business. Or even worse, going to call Sven.
And I think I might like Pintsize better this way.:-o
...It all goes a bit A-Team as they try to escape with Faye stepping in for Mr. T because she pities fools the most.
Welp, it's finally happened.
Faye killed Pintsize.
Poor little guy.
Cump.
Welp, it's finally happened.
Faye killed Pintsize.
Poor little guy.
While watching this on the stream I started out hopeful - without dialogue it looked as if the first 3 panels could be Marten telling Veronica what she was doing wrong and her taking his hands and apologising. Then I checked back and saw some of the dialogue. That left me extremely unsatisfied, but having now read the finished thing, I maintain hope. Veronica is only going back to her hotel, not home, so hopefully she'll get her comeuppance and the gang will get Marten into therapy for his mummy issues.
I have a feeling someone's going to be visiting Marigold shortly..."You know, my son does like the curvy girls...you have his number, don't you?"
OH MY GOD NO. :psyduck:
Tai won't make a move on Dora (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1778) because of Marten's euphoria fluid. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1779)Am I the only one hoping for the return of Raven here? :-D Okay, granted it doesn't make alot of sense. But now that you mention Dora's old coven, I can't help but wonder where they all ended up. Isn't it weird that of the entire QC cast, Dora is the one we've known the longest with the least ammount of history?
Though Raven's return to comfort Dora (not that way, get your minds OUT OF THE GUTTER) could be helpful for Dora, I don't see Jeph just "happening" to bring her back at the right moment. Too much of a deus ex machina.
"Get your mind in the gutter?" Don't mind if I do! (ahem). Am I the only one who recalls Tai having a MASSIVE crush on Dora? And that Dora seemed to keen on adopting her? Oh, Gods of wishfuly thinking, it's like you never left us! :-D
But kidding aside. With Dora being the way she is now, no chance will Tai even think of making a move on her. But then again, I seem to recall Marten and Dora hooking up by eriely similar circumstances.
Someone remind me again why Marten needs therapy because his mom chose a really weird and ineffective way to try to cheer him up? And why Veronica needs her comeuppance from a bunch of kids - none of whom are parents themselves and whose mother she could be - about how she treats her own son?
That doesn't seem...inappropriate to you at all? She didn't beat him in public, she teased him. More than she should have, yes, okay, I can agree with that, but seriously? She's not a child abuser. She didn't beat him in front of the world. She embarrassed her grown son a little in order to shake him out of his funk, however poorly planned it was.
...It all goes a bit A-Team as they try to escape with Faye stepping in for Mr. T because she pities fools the most.
I have a feeling someone's going to be visiting Marigold shortly...
OH MY GOD NO. :psyduck:
While watching this on the stream I started out hopeful - without dialogue it looked as if the first 3 panels could be Marten telling Veronica what she was doing wrong and her taking his hands and apologising. Then I checked back and saw some of the dialogue. That left me extremely unsatisfied, but having now read the finished thing, I maintain hope. Veronica is only going back to her hotel, not home, so hopefully she'll get her comeuppance and the gang will get Marten into therapy for his mummy issues.
Someone remind me again why Marten needs therapy because his mom chose a really weird and ineffective way to try to cheer him up? And why Veronica needs her comeuppance from a bunch of kids - none of whom are parents themselves and whose mother she could be - about how she treats her own son?
That doesn't seem...inappropriate to you at all? She didn't beat him in public, she teased him. More than she should have, yes, okay, I can agree with that, but seriously? She's not a child abuser. She didn't beat him in front of the world. She embarrassed her grown son a little in order to shake him out of his funk, however poorly planned it was.
Edit:I have a feeling someone's going to be visiting Marigold shortly..."You know, my son does like the curvy girls...you have his number, don't you?"
OH MY GOD NO. :psyduck:
"MOM." (from his apartment. in another building.)
Sure am enjoying Emotional Bullying, the webcomic.
Marigold's personality isn't the kind that attracts Marten, and he's shown no trace of being interested. They don't have common interests. If Marigold can swing a relationship at all, others are way more possible than Marten.
...It all goes a bit A-Team as they try to escape with Faye stepping in for Mr. T because she pities fools the most.
With Sven as "Face" and Hanners as "Howlin' Mad Murdoch"? There is no one who's good at planning though to take Mr. Peppard's role though.
...It all goes a bit A-Team as they try to escape with Faye stepping in for Mr. T because she pities fools the most.
With Sven as "Face" and Hanners as "Howlin' Mad Murdoch"? There is no one who's good at planning though to take Mr. Peppard's role though.
I don't know the role very well, but...Dale? He seems planny, plotty, and possibly schemey.
Do they all have to be dudes? Cause I can see Dora as Mr. Peppard. Think outside the box!
Marigold and Marten make no sense as a couple.
Either a bad noob post or a troll needing to be stepped on before he/she/it grows.
Do they all have to be dudes? Cause I can see Dora as Mr. Peppard. Think outside the box!
Oh hell I did not mean to sound like there was shipping going on. No, I totally agree, Marigold and Marten make no sense as a couple.Ah, I understand now.
I just think that Veronica tactlessly trying to sell Marigold on her son and the nerd-lady's subsequent hugely red face and complete immobility from embarrassment would be hilarious.
Oh hell I did not mean to sound like there was shipping going on. No, I totally agree, Marigold and Marten make no sense as a couple.Ah, I understand now.
I just think that Veronica tactlessly trying to sell Marigold on her son and the nerd-lady's subsequent hugely red face and complete immobility from embarrassment would be hilarious.
A scene treating Marigold like she did the waitress would send forth a shock wave of awkwardness that would level city blocks.
There is no objection to discussing a pairing that you can justify; the cough was to ensure that the discussion didn't take a leap off the path of sense.
But onto the main topic, this does feel a bit unsatisfying but conversely it's also over. While I don't particularly like the idea of them ignoring it and not addressing it, I'm willing to consider it a Big Lipped Alligator Moment if it means that the painful reading is done with.
/me dons moderator hat, clears throat
You had to go there in the weekly comic thread, huh?
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My guess is that Marten sighing most likely means his depression is NOT resolved, and he just put on a happy face for his mother.
He said so himself:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=95
So... Pintsize is Snoopy?
And Faye is - Lucy? Or is that Dora, and Faye is the little red-haired girl?
Tai is Marcy.
Hanners is Sally?
Steve is definitely Pigpen.
He said so himself:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=95
Do they all have to be dudes? Cause I can see Dora as Mr. Peppard. Think outside the box!
So... Pintsize is Snoopy?
And Faye is - Lucy? Or is that Dora, and Faye is the little red-haired girl?
Tai is Marcy.
Hanners is Sally?
Steve is definitely Pigpen.
From the perspective of things, Dora seems like Peppermint Patty to me. Marigold is more of the Marcy type. Faye doesn't really have a Peanuts-like counterpart, given that she doesn't have the malevolence of Lucy, the irritating vapidness of Sally or the innocent nature of the Lil Red Haired Girl. Maybe Violet? Her and Patty are best friends (mirroring the QC relationship), she has a very strong personality and she spends a lot of time verbally abusing Chuck. Hanners.... Emily, maybe?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That is all.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That is all.
I second this
Thrown out of his own apartment...
Where will he spend the night?!?!?
What?
:evil:
There is no objection to discussing a pairing that you can justify; the cough was to ensure that the discussion didn't take a leap off the path of sense.
But love always requires a leap!
:-D
In all seriousness-
Here is my reasoning as to why Marigold and Marten are a suitable couple.
The first basic block of compatibility- Physicality
Marten- we haven't seen him show the level of vanity that requires a "certain type" of person for attractivity- we've seen Marten fall for both the short, voluptuous type AND the tall, physically intimidating type. Marigold is not "ugly" (as we've seen previously, she can be very attractive when she puts the effort into it).
Marigold- When it comes to body types, we've seen the Marigold falls very easily for the "not body builder" type- I present as an example of this Angus, who mirrors Marten in body type (different head though).
So first level of compatibility- check
Second level of compatibility- Emotionality
Marten- he's already gone through two (three?) bouts of dealing with Alpha Women, and he's been burned. Emotionally, at this point his next relationship may not require a domineering personality, but instead focus on someone a little less domineering. More Dora-type personality relationships very well could result in more of the same heartache.
Marigold- though she's a submissive introvert, at the same time her and a domineering partner seems like it would just cause conflict. Emotionally, at this point someone who is patient, kind and more apt to talk things over rather than yell would be a good match for her.
So the first level of compatibility- check
Third level of compatibility- Common interests
Given that when Marten and Dora first started dating they had barely any common interests at all (besides Faye as a friend), there's a good starting point here. Both Marten and Marigold are creative type personalities with an interest in anthroPCs. Yes, there are things they don't share (Marten doesn't play WOW), but at the same time that's not a bad thing, persay- in fact, it can be indeed good! Couples need separate interests, things that they can do apart from each other; the ability to enjoy separate things allows for the retention of individual sense of self while at the same time the common interests allow for the enjoyability of time spent together.
We've also seen that Marigold, when coaxed "out of her shell", can indeed enjoy a lot of the commonality the group enjoys. She may spend a lot of time by herself, but I wouldn't go so far as to interpret that as some have (that is, the level of emotional stunt)- sometimes individuals who are introverted are just shy.
My reasoning also might stem from a bit of projection (as I have seen others on here have done)- My own current marriage bears a very strong resemblance to a Marigold-Marten pairing, and it's been a very happy ten years so far...
So it's not just a matter of "here's two random people, let's toss them together", I've got some solid reasoning behind it.
I'm not sure she locked him out of his apartment; I think she just ran upstairs and locked the door to the bedroom she's staying in.
You can just barely see the corner of the number plate sticking out from under the speech bubble.
Cump?
Good catch on the number plate. Guess it's time for a drunken jam session?I doubt Faye would ever dare to punch Martens Mom.
Also, at least Marten's mom didn't insist on taking over his room and telling him he could just sleep with Faye in another misguided attempt to "heal" him. But I get the feeling Faye would have a new target for her punches then.
Perhaps Sven drinking with Marten (and, hopefully, keeping him from creeping on Faye again) will give his relationship with Faye a little more closure? Let her see him as a platonically okay dude for taking care of her friend when he was in need of a keeper--and she had had some problems with filling that role herself of late.
OR MAYBE HE WILL JUST TRY TO HAVE DRUNK MAKEOUTS WITH SVEN INSTEAD HURR
QuoteCump?
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I'M TELLING!!
I hadn't realised Sven was out of his apartment. I think him and Marten going for a drink is an excellent idea. Not too sure it'll happen though. Sven might feel it would be more diplomatic to avoid Marten for a little while or something.
I hadn't realised Sven was out of his apartment. I think him and Marten going for a drink is an excellent idea. Not too sure it'll happen though. Sven might feel it would be more diplomatic to avoid Marten for a little while or something.
Ummmmmmm
You do realise this is Sven you're talking about
Right??
I don't know who I dislike more at this point...Dora for locking Sven out of his own place, or Sven for letting her.
I don't know who I dislike more at this point...Dora for locking Sven out of his own place, or Sven for letting her.
See, in this I think I can see the "Overplayed for the purposes of humour" thing others have mentioned coming into play.
If we want to be completely serious then I guess it's an overreaction, but I think it's more just designed to provide a laugh and move the story forward. That is assuming that Sven goes out and interacts with someone (possibly Marten). He may well just drop by Will's or another friend's place without it being dealt with in comic.
Yeah, so Sven needs to adjust his internal censor, but the real question is why Dora and Sven were watching, rather joylessly, Marten's Mum perform in the first place. I just can't imagine watching a fetish video with my brother.
Yeah, so Sven needs to adjust his internal censor, but the real question is why Dora and Sven were watching, rather joylessly, Marten's Mum perform in the first place. I just can't imagine watching a fetish video with my brother.What gives you the idea they watch Marten's Mum ? They just look like they watch the regular TV program.
"On January 11, Sven Bianchi was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his sister. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her (since she had all his Pavement CD's). With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his friend, Marten Reed. Sometime earlier, Reed's girlfriend had left him - ironically, the same woman who kicked Bianchi out of his own house. Can two scorned men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
(Cue theme from "The Odd Couple")
A) He's been in a dangerous place lately and doing some dangerous things. Granted, it hasn't gone on long enough to be a massive worry yet. So just, you know, general breakup angst.
To be honest, I don't think Marten in therapy is particularly likely, as that would mean 4 characters undergoing psychiatric treatment.Uhm, who? Faye, Dora, Marten and?.. I don't think Hanners is undergoing therapy at the moment. At least we know for sure she isn't taking any meds (she mentioned she had been on some powerful meds when first meeting Marten, but has stopped taking them at some point).
"On January 11, Sven Bianchi was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his sister. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her (since she had all his Pavement CD's). With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his friend, Marten Reed. Sometime earlier, Reed's girlfriend had left him - ironically, the same woman who kicked Bianchi out of his own house. Can two scorned men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
(Cue theme from "The Odd Couple")
"On January 11, Sven Bianchi was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his sister. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her (since she had all his Pavement CD's). With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his friend, Marten Reed. Sometime earlier, Reed's girlfriend had left him - ironically, the same woman who kicked Bianchi out of his own house. Can two scorned men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
(Cue theme from "The Odd Couple")
First the A-Team reference, now the Odd Couple, if we're going for 70s/early 80s TV can we somehow get original recipe BSG? I miss Lorne Greene.
Yeah, so Sven needs to adjust his internal censor, but the real question is why Dora and Sven were watching, rather joylessly, Marten's Mum perform in the first place. I just can't imagine watching a fetish video with my brother.I like the way you think. :psyduck:
I'd also suggest Jimbo, but he doesn't feature that often in the comic. Last time we saw him was during the Tai/Marigold fanfic arc, as I recall.
"On January 11, Sven Bianchi was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his sister. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her (since she had all his Pavement CD's). With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his friend, Marten Reed. Sometime earlier, Reed's girlfriend had left him - ironically, the same woman who kicked Bianchi out of his own house. Can two scorned men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
(Cue theme from "The Odd Couple")
First the A-Team reference, now the Odd Couple, if we're going for 70s/early 80s TV can we somehow get original recipe BSG? I miss Lorne Greene.
I kind of regret the A-Team silliness I started and I'll probably regret this but I'll round out the trifecta by suggesting that Marten, fed up with his chew-toy status decides to hit the road like an emo-Michael Knight using Pintsize as the computer behind a porn obsessed sweary Kit.
Last time I saw Jimbo in the comic was during the Con Marten and Dora went to, unless I've missed something...
I don't know who I dislike more at this point...Dora for locking Sven out of his own place, or Sven for letting her.
I trust Sven can <cut> maybe just hang out with Veronica... That would pay Dora back, n'est-ce pas?
A) He's been in a dangerous place lately and doing some dangerous things. Granted, it hasn't gone on long enough to be a massive worry yet. So just, you know, general breakup angst.
Uh, like what?
Is it just me or does Dora look like she's about to cry in the first two panels?
Is it just me or does Dora look like she's about to cry in the first two panels?No. My first (and second) impression was exactly the same. She could be just numbly watching whatever non-cerebral flick they chose to rent to pass the evening, but something about her says she's desperately trying to hold back her tears...
...and then, unable to ignore it any longer, Sven decides to break the awkward silence with the first thing that pops into his mind.
Yeah, so Sven needs to adjust his internal censor, but the real question is why Dora and Sven were watching, rather joylessly, Marten's Mum perform in the first place. I just can't imagine watching a fetish video with my brother.
Is it just me or does Dora look like she's about to cry in the first two panels?
No. My first (and second) impression was exactly the same. She could be just numbly watching whatever non-cerebral flick they chose to rent to pass the evening, but something about her says she's desperately trying to hold back her tears...
...and then, unable to ignore it any longer, Sven decides to break the awkward silence with the first thing that pops into his mind.
this was better, and more succinct, than watching her scream and rant.
Three other characters, besides Marten, that it might be fun for Sven to go visit-
A. Hanners. We know they get along really well, but they don't hang out much. Might incidentally lead to...
B. Marigold. Cue massive awkwardness, especially from Momo. Plus, Sven might be impressed by Marbear's mastery of WoW.
C. Veronica, in a bar somewhere. Could happen, and would probably lead to lots of exposition.
I'd also suggest Jimbo, but he doesn't feature that often in the comic. Last time we saw him was during the Tai/Marigold fanfic arc, as I recall.
...and then, unable to ignore it any longer, Sven decides to break the awkward silence with the first thing that pops into his mind.
Carl: I don't consider Marten's pain to be "self-inflicted."
Yeah, so Sven needs to adjust his internal censor, but the real question is why Dora and Sven were watching, rather joylessly, Marten's Mum perform in the first place. I just can't imagine watching a fetish video with my brother.I like the way you think. :psyduck:
To distinguish-
Marten's physical pain, if he still has any, is due to Faye punching him in the head.
Marten's emotional pain is due to Dora breaking up with him.
Marten is not the proximate cause of either of these, although he's in part responsible for both (he could have not decided to date Dora, if we're gettin' hypothetical here.)
Marigold'd be awkward because of Angus and all. Nah, he goes to see Dale/Gendo, who's still tracking Marigold down...
Edit: In WoW. Not actually, you know, stalking her IRL.
B. Marigold. Cue massive awkwardness, especially from Momo. Plus, Sven might be impressed by Marbear's mastery of WoW.Uh, from what I heard, he could also try any not retarded 4 year old and be impressed by their "mastery of WoW".
Three's Company, then."On January 11, Sven Bianchi was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his sister. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her (since she had all his Pavement CD's). With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his friend, Marten Reed. Sometime earlier, Reed's girlfriend had left him - ironically, the same woman who kicked Bianchi out of his own house. Can two scorned men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
(Cue theme from "The Odd Couple")
I nearly panicked for a moment at the mere possibility that something like this might happen...before remembering that Faye lives there too, so it'll never happen.
Don't do that... :-P
B. Marigold. Cue massive awkwardness, especially from Momo. Plus, Sven might be impressed by Marbear's mastery of WoW.Uh, from what I heard, he could also try any not retarded 4 year old and be impressed by their "mastery of WoW".
At least thats what the MMO forums complain about, that WoW only gets even easier with every expansion.
Myself, I never played WoW, so I wouldnt know firsthand.
Three's Company, then."On January 11, Sven Bianchi was asked to remove himself from his place of residence. That request came from his sister. Deep down, he knew she was right, but he also knew that someday, he would return to her (since she had all his Pavement CD's). With nowhere else to go, he appeared at the home of his friend, Marten Reed. Sometime earlier, Reed's girlfriend had left him - ironically, the same woman who kicked Bianchi out of his own house. Can two scorned men share an apartment without driving each other crazy?"
(Cue theme from "The Odd Couple")
I nearly panicked for a moment at the mere possibility that something like this might happen...before remembering that Faye lives there too, so it'll never happen.
Don't do that... :-P
[1838] One in the eye for the old generation of shippers, I guess!I laughed, I cheered, I made nerdy hand gestures of glee.
However much she's heard (and seen in this and the previous visit), I don't see how she can make that kind of judgment about Faye.You tell me, I have no clue ...
So what does she think about Marten's issues that would lead her to that conclusion?
There has to be more to what she's doing.
Ok, I love Veronica and all, but Jesus…there’s ‘being blunt’ and being ‘a damn wrecking ball’…Yeah, but this has been her style since she first appeared in the comic. And remember the pink "Pretty Princess" tee-shirt she sent Marten?
Part of the reason they CAN have the relationship they do, of such deep trust and honesty, is in part BECAUSE they aren't dating, aren't really attracted to each other anymore, and a romantic relationship is not even a distant possibility, taking a big scary thing that threatens Faye's boundaries off the table and enabling her to break other intimacy walls.
... the Pugnacious PeachMagnificent. This should be the new name for Faye.
The boy has little, if any, self esteem. He needs someone who would be able to make him feel better about himself, someone to encourage him to follow a dream or two, not just give him punches or free muffins/sex. I think this may be why people like the idea of Hanners with Marten, such egoboostingfluffingenhancement is part of her nature.
Ms Reed is dressed like a Sith lord...Um, not really. No hood. And more importantly, no disfiguration. Finally, no red lightsaber either.
Ms Reed is dressed like a Sith lord...
The boy has little, if any, self esteem. He needs someone who would be able to make him feel better about himself, someone to encourage him to follow a dream or two, not just give him punches or free muffins/sex. I think this may be why people like the idea of Hanners with Marten, such egoboostingfluffingenhancement is part of her nature.
In light of that sentiment, the idea of Marten and Marigold getting together kind of makes some kind of logical sense.
Marten is very sensitive and would treat Marigold with respect and affection, and Marigold, unlike Hanners, has expressed both an interest and a desire for physical intimacy.
They would probably be good for one another.
Marten would help Marigold see the beauty in herself, and Marigold would not walk all over Marten, as certain other persons, who shall remain nameless, have done in the past.
I don't think they would ultimately stay together forever, but they would each gain valuable experience from the relationship.
Never regret the silliness - it is what separates us from the (insert name of something non-silly here)
This is starting to remind me of the whole de-marriaging from Spider-man, specifically how Marvel just can't leave it be and keep poking at it.
I'll echo other sentiments...I can't wait for Veronica to get on that plane and go home. This comic hasn't been enjoyable to read since she arrived. (One dinosaur related image notwithstanding)Weird. I rarely had so much fun with QC than with Veronica.
It amuses me when someone expects a shitstorm, that, by virtue of being expected, never drops its load.
but this momvisits! arc has just been painful.
Weird. I rarely had so much fun with QC than with Veronica.
Especially the first two comics were boundless fun - "I had a happy life, its ok if I get into prison for killing Dora" and "Oh look that waitress is beautiful, why dont you pick her ?".
but this momvisits! arc has just been painful.
Really, because I'm loving this. The awkwardness, the tenterhooks of where it's going to go next, it's so delicious. I'm not saying I want it to go on forever, but it's as tasty as a big meal at a curry house and I'm hoping we haven't been handed the hot towels yet.
derp missed point herp -- Jeph's lived with shitstorms from time to time for years, and it will take more than a few weeks for him to trust that it has changed.That was my point. He comes on so strongly worrying about it that it's bound won't happen. Plus, I think the trolls have mostly cleared out since that big Kablooey a few weeks ago. There certainly wasn't much trouble the last two weeks, when people were more upset instead of resigned over Martenmom's behavior.
Really, because I'm loving this. The awkwardness, the tenterhooks of where it's going to go next, it's so delicious. I'm not saying I want it to go on forever, but it's as tasty as a big meal at a curry house and I'm hoping we haven't been handed the hot towels yet.And I'd be happy to dig in, if the butt of all of it wasn't a guy who just lost his girlfriend two days ago, and she wasn't his mother who allegedly came to help him out. Most of what I have to say is in the thread for last week, I don't feel like restating it/ digging through it. I've never been one for relishing another's pain, basically.
I've never been one for relishing another's pain, basically.
...
I've never been one for relishing another's pain, basically.
Good job, you found the issue: I cannot distinguish fiction from reality!I've never been one for relishing another's pain, basically.I can understand that but I've long been of the opinion that Marten isn't real. Harsh, but I suspect also fair. If you want further confirmation that I'm a bad person, I also ignore what people are saying and pick the one thing I can make fun of for the heck of it.
AH! We have FOUND the issue at hand!I'd hope that she sets aside being a dominatrix when her son is involved, so no.
Veronica is probably LOVING all this.
Well, you know how the expression goes: Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.And it's back to tragedy when your mother jumps in and starts stabbing your broken corpse instead of helping you get out.
Good job, you found the issue: I cannot distinguish fiction from reality!
Or you're a twit, who's intentionally misinterpreting my point to be a twit. One of the two.
Because I feel like elaborating, he's not real, but he's supposed to be empathetic. Itchy and Scratchy aren't. Thus, those of you with, y'know, souls, get uncomfortable when pretty much the single person one would expect to help him is instead embarrassing him at every turn and meddling in his interpersonal connections. Nearly everyone else, Pintsize? Sure, I'd laugh. but not when it's his mom that. Dammit, go read the stuff from last week and stop being a jerk.
I need to go to sleep, because I think I'm responding to some trolling but I can't tell.
I suspect this is comedy for those who don't have relatives like this.I don't think it's a personal thing. Mothers are supposed to be motherly; there's a reason that is a word, with the definition it does. When they aren't, and have made a previous appearance that did not identify them as unmotherly (that is, she was quite aware of what she said, joked around as though everyone was equal, defended her son's interests by intimidating Faye, otherwise indicating she was A Cool Mom), it's jarring. Everyone one else has acted according to the characterization we knew- Faye punched him, thus acting like Faye, Pintsize was Pintsize, etc. We don't know much about his mom other than she is his mom, so we expect her to act like... a mom. Which she did, with that full name thing outside the restaurant, but it wasn't context adjusted. Before she was funny and easygoing, which made sense because it was a fun and easygoing time in his life. Now it's not, and now it's jarring for her to still act like it's so.
I also suspect that there are very few of those here on the boards...
Really not trolling or suggesting that you can't distinguish reality from fiction, just that perhaps that you're taking the strip a little too seriously.I defend my opinions with vigor, but I hold them at a distance. If it seems like this is personal- well I'm tired, I'm not my best at objectivity right now. Again, reading what I said last week would help with that.
Although I'm prepared to accept that I should take it more seriously. Mind you, I'd never expect my parents to be the ones I depended on emotionally if I were in Marten's situation.
I defend my opinions with vigor, but I hold them at a distance. If it seems like this is personal- well I'm tired, I'm not my best at objectivity right now. Again, reading what I said last week would help with that.
I wouldn't plan to depend on my parents either (though they're 75 miles away, not 3000 miles), but if one cared enough (and had the money to) drop everything and flew over to see me the penultimate day after a major personal kerfuffle of mine, I'd expect them to act like I just had a major personal kerfuffle, not like it's been 6 months and I should stop moping and date that hot waitress. Tapability was funny the first time she visited; not this time.
...Marten already knows this about his mother, too.
I'll just relax over here on my little yacht, eat popcorn and watch the incoming shipping battles a few nautical miles away. Anybody else anticipating a shit storm incoming and wanting to watch from the sidelines, you're more than welcome to join me. Beer's in the fridge, extra chairs in the closet below deck.I've always found the sidelines very comfortable *grabs a beer and sits down*
Oh Jeph there are some nights I love you. This is one of those nights. :evil:
I suspect this is comedy for those who don't have relatives like this.
I also suspect that there are very few of those here on the boards...
... the Pugnacious PeachMagnificent. This should be the new name for Faye.
... the Pugnacious PeachMagnificent. This should be the new name for Faye.
That would be a fantastic T-shirt! A picture of Faye perhaps wearing a cute little indie headband with a flower on it, scowling, with both fists up like Rocky Balboa.
What is up with everyone having to have extreme reactions to everything?
Steveb, well put! And don't worry about the Dr. ROFLPWN, he's been a bit out of sorts ever since his thread was trashed...
I mean, I haven't even started my thesis! No MBA, either.
Also, we already have an image...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5125/5349471384_d18c13409c.jpg)
Feel free to fix it.
Alternatively, Veronica just believes Faye about the entire "I don't have feelings for Marten that way" bit, and just dropped that line in as kind of a re-affirmation of "you made the right decision for the two of you", unaware that Faye probably isn't 100% sure about it.
Now Faye's going to be worried that her feelings for Angus are masking the same sort of incompatibility.
I'll just relax over here on my little yacht, eat popcorn and watch the incoming shipping battles a few nautical miles away. Anybody else anticipating a shit storm incoming and wanting to watch from the sidelines, you're more than welcome to join me. Beer's in the fridge, extra chairs in the closet below deck.
Oh God Faye's face is fucking priiiiiiiceless last panel.
Mothers are supposed to be motherly; there's a reason that is a word, with the definition it does.
...I also have a new Theory Which Shall Not Be Named.
Unless...Faye really isn't sure. Right now, Marten functions as her emotional boyfriend, for lack of a better term. Their friendship is basically Marten doing all the boyfriendly emotional things (being there for her when things go bad, etc etc), but with none of the physical aspects (except the occasional hugging). Veronica may have picked up that while as Faye is dating Angus, Faye *needs* Marten. As a mom, it's hard to see your boy struggling with being alone and lonely, when you realize his roommate / best friend is using him (perhaps in Veronica's eyes) as an emotional boyfriend.
Then again, if you are just stating what you think Marten's mom is thinking, and though I would find it highly unlikely that a successful sex worker isn't able to see nuance when it comes to varying types of intimacy and relationships, it would still make my misogyny-rage misplaced, for which I apologize and offer you up a psyduck :psyduck:
What is up with everyone having to have extreme reactions to everything?
My own mother is hilariously inept at being emotionally supportive... I know that and I'm sure if this is normal Ms. Reed mode for dealing with emotional support, then Marten already knows this about his mother, too. I don't hold it against her, and honestly, you can tell she is ACTUALLY TRYING, even if she is awful at it. She isn't being a malicious bitch, she is just badly being a supportive mother, there is a difference (also, I would say that... overall she might know better how to deal with Marten's emotional shell than we do, so there may be some method to her madness that we don't get)
And also. ITS FUNNY. Almost everything Ms Reed has said is hilarious. Did people forget this was a comic again? And that some things are exaggerated for humor? Same with Sven and his lack of internal monologue, and him getting thrown out of his own apartment.
Also, as for "that would have been a disaster" that wasn't a condemnation of Faye. It was a condemnation of Faye and Marten TOGETHER. Two people can be perfectly wonderful human beings, and be perfectly awful for each other.
I'll just relax over here on my little yacht, eat popcorn and watch the incoming shipping battles a few nautical miles away. Anybody else anticipating a shit storm incoming and wanting to watch from the sidelines, you're more than welcome to join me. Beer's in the fridge, extra chairs in the closet below deck.
I actually had a rather awful thought after reading this strip.
What if comforting Marten *isn't* the main reason for Veronica's visit?
What if she's also trying to distract herself from a traumatic event in her own life, taking her mind off her troubles by trying to focus on Marten's?
This speculation is what I'm clinging to for comfort as I see Ms. Reed go a little too far for my own comfort (but then again, I know that I would not do well in the BDSM scene, on either side of it, so I suppose that's not surprising).
Yeah, she punched him after the break-up--when he was drunkenly trying to assault her, which is pretty much what is going on when a someone lumbers at you acting entitled to your body when you are saying no.
Marten's mom either (a) feels that Faye is the one for Marten, and knowing what she does about relationships, knows that if this is the case, the response from Faye will be very, very telling as to whether this is possible, or (b) genuinely believes Faye & Marten ... are just friends, and doesn't think her comment should state anything but the obvious.
if (a) is the case, then maybe she's trying to make Faye realize that the one she needs is really standing next to her all the time. Plus, people in Faye's position can often assume they have someone like Marten in the bag (as long as he was single). Hell, that's kinda Dora's big issue, she could never stop believing that Faye would always be a threat to them, and add in her general view of men (as scumbags), she believes that if Faye ever made a move on Marten, Marten would dump her for Faye. Which, ... despite Marten's protestations to the contrary, ... he might actually do it, depending on how pissy Dora has been at the time and to what extent Faye would be willing to go to get him.
-If the person giving you advice has been married/together for 10+yrs. You may want to consider it. They've got enough experience and wisdom to start seeing past most of the crap.
-If the person giving you advice is giving you advice about what caused them to breakup/divorce. You may want to consider it. They've already screwed the pooch on this particular issue.
-If the person giving you advice is none of these, then only consider it long enough to see if it makes sense and if it doesn't, don't bother about it. They are likely just talking out of their collective buttholes. I'm not saying they're doing it on purpose or to be mean...but they almost certainly don't know enough about relationships (much less the intricacies of yours, which you'll never be able to tell them all the minute details anyway without taking several years to do it) to give good advice unless they hit the monkey on the keyboard just right by accident. :psyduck:
I said this last week, but I do feel the need to say it again, whatever Veronica has in mind, she is serious danger of damaging her own relationship with Marten.
This is from a woman who was so successful at her own relationship that she married a gay guy... :lol:
Then again, if you are just stating what you think Marten's mom is thinking, and though I would find it highly unlikely that a successful sex worker isn't able to see nuance when it comes to varying types of intimacy and relationships, it would still make my misogyny-rage misplaced, for which I apologize and offer you up a psyduck :psyduck:
Thats what worries me. Veronica is/was supposedly one of the most successful fetish models and dominatrices in the world. By definition, a dominatrix is supposed to be able to read people, developing in their own way, skills similar to a psychologist or pyschiatrist, so they know how people work, what their limitations are and how far you can push them. Veronica should be able to read people, otherwise she wouldn't be as successful as she is now, so why is it she's going out of her way to humiliate her son, insult his best friend and comfort the one who dumped him? Is she blinded by the fact that Marten is her son? Or is she unable to quite seperate her dominatrix persona from her motherly one? Or is this some sort of roundabout plan to help Marten? How? By breaking his confidence and grinding it into nothing?
I said this last week, but I do feel the need to say it again, whatever Veronica has in mind, she is serious danger of damaging her own relationship with Marten.
OK, so Marten should call Dad?
Nobody can fix this for Marten. That is not how real life works. If you want to laud QC for realism you have to accept this too: welcome to the world of dealing with your own heartbreak. People can be there for hugs and sympathy and embarrassment and all that, but no one is going to wave a magic wand and fix this.
OK, so Marten should call Dad?
No. No, fuck that idea. In fact, I really should have called westrim out on this yesterday and it is starting to bother me that people don't get it.
What would Henry say that's any different? He's busy being in love and getting ready to get married! Hell, he'd be worse to have around; at least Veronica is focusing all her attention on Marty, not mooning over somebody and then looking back all "oh, sorry son."
Nobody can fix this for Marten. That is not how real life works. If you want to laud QC for realism you have to accept this too: welcome to the world of dealing with your own heartbreak. People can be there for hugs and sympathy and embarrassment and all that, but no one is going to wave a magic wand and fix this.
Or do people just want someone to come and punch Dora? Is that what this is? Not to be paranoid but I noticed that the time Ms. Reed's popularity really started dropping was when it became clear she wasn't going to fuck Dora up. Is...Are we that bad, guys? Tell me we aren't.)
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3. For Marten's feelings of relief and guilt over The Break-Up: Generally speaking, if you do have a strong &/or solid sense of relief, it probably does made you did the correct (if not "right") decision, regardless of any guilt :| .
nevertheless i still think dora and marten might get together again. i don't understand why this possibility hasn't been brought up yet (maybe it has, but i don't read the whole forum.) it wouldn't be that unusual.
'do you think we did the right thing'
Something puzzles me about today's comic, and there's no other way to put it, so I'm just gonna come out with it:http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1800
When Marten says 'do you think we did the right thing', and Veronica talks about the 'right decision'... when did Marten 'do' or 'decide' anything about this situation? What action or decision did he make? Dora broke up with him. There wasn't any 'mutuality' about it. There's no "we" to it, or am I totally wrong?
Unless we're meant to take his losing his temper once in the entire run of the comic as him actually making a decision to 'make' Dora break up with him?
Nobody can fix this for Marten. That is not how real life works. If you want to laud QC for realism you have to accept this too: welcome to the world of dealing with your own heartbreak. People can be there for hugs and sympathy and embarrassment and all that, but no one is going to wave a magic wand and fix this.
Or do people just want someone to come and punch Dora? Is that what this is? Not to be paranoid but I noticed that the time Ms. Reed's popularity really started dropping was when it became clear she wasn't going to fuck Dora up. Is...Are we that bad, guys? Tell me we aren't.)
Pah! Lifejackets aren't necessary, this thing is unsinkable!
Nobody can fix this for Marten. That is not how real life works. If you want to laud QC for realism you have to accept this too: welcome to the world of dealing with your own heartbreak. People can be there for hugs and sympathy and embarrassment and all that, but no one is going to wave a magic wand and fix this.
Nobody can fix this for Marten. That is not how real life works. If you want to laud QC for realism you have to accept this too: welcome to the world of dealing with your own heartbreak. People can be there for hugs and sympathy and embarrassment and all that, but no one is going to wave a magic wand and fix this.
Well to be fair, that trite cliché isn't exactly wrong! I mean, sometimes that relief is honestly good, and sometimes it's bad! Who knows? Only Marty.Yea...but they're so true everyone knows them. I mean really, honestly, if there's anything we all know about life is that it keeps going on. And sometimes it's good and sometimes it's bad, and time heals all wounds, and generally everything works out in the end, or at least something else comes up to take it's place. We don't want to hear that sometimes that cos it doesn't feel like it at all, but we do know it. Maybe trite isn't the word I was looking for (I meant something that meant more 'commonplace knowledge, no extra insight.)
And if you mean where she said that even though he and Dora didn't work out, things are going to turn out okay: well, that's pretty true too!
I think Faye might to go out with Marten to prove a point to his mum
Marten is single, so now she has to confront it mentally somewhatOr simply remember that the change no longer affects her.
which puts Angus back in the same position Dora was inNo, because Dora's position came from inside herself; Angus is, as far as we know, different.
the bourbon night perhaps making her think Marten really still wanted herIt's pretty clear that her reaction to the bourbon was more understanding than that, and there's no reason for her mind to lose that clarity in the cold light of day.
I still think the majority of her behavior in the last few comics is inappropriate.
If Marten salvages a friendship with Dora, it will be the first time he's managed it with an ex. 755, and look how he practically hid from Vicky. He could have a growth opportunity, or he could take the easy way out and dismiss her as "crazy".
Eh, that was just my opinion of how it could break down. All of your guys' points are true, but two things
1) This is expecting a whole lot of maturity out of Faye, not all of which is necessarily earned.
2) Regarding Angus: Usually guys who come off too confident are the most insecure of them all.
People may be one way 90+% of the time, but it's the other 10% of the time that usually blows things up. Jeph's been really good about showing that although people have personalities, sometimes they go against their "typical" personality, and show more depth. (Faye not obliterating Dora, for one)
I took the hair-tousle to mean that Pugnacious Peach has moved on emotionally.
Because PP makes for fantastic initials.
Or do people just want someone to come and punch Dora? Is that what this is? Not to be paranoid but I noticed that the time Ms. Reed's popularity really started dropping was when it became clear she wasn't going to fuck Dora up. Is...Are we that bad, guys? Tell me we aren't.)Yeah, actually I think we are, or at least a sizeable sub-set is. Certainly the "a real man is an angry man" crowd.
Because PP makes for fantastic initials.
Or unfortunate initials, depending on your prespective...
I took the hair-tousle to mean that Pugnacious Peach has moved on emotionally.
Yes, we're doing this? This is a thing now?
Because PP makes for fantastic initials.
I don't think people dislike Veronica's visit because she didn't punch Dora, but because she rushed all the way over to "help" Marten, and then did nothing to help him. [ ] I dislike Veronica's actions because she is supposed to be there for Marten and she isn't.
I took the hair-tousle to mean that Pugnacious Peach has moved on emotionally.
Yes, we're doing this? This is a thing now?
Because PP makes for fantastic initials.
You have to say it like a Boxing announcer,
To wit:
I this corner, weighing in at One hundred and *mumble-mumble* pounds, from Savannah Georgia,
The Pugnacious Peach,
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaye
Whitakrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre!
Faye could totally be a boxer. Seriously.Given her propensity for throws (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=363) and holds (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1718) as well as punches, MMA might be more her speed.
-If the person giving you advice has been married/together for 10+yrs. You may want to consider it. They've got enough experience and wisdom to start seeing past most of the crap.
-If the person giving you advice is giving you advice about what caused them to breakup/divorce. You may want to consider it. They've already screwed the pooch on this particular issue.
-If the person giving you advice is none of these, then only consider it long enough to see if it makes sense and if it doesn't, don't bother about it. They are likely just talking out of their collective buttholes. I'm not saying they're doing it on purpose or to be mean...but they almost certainly don't know enough about relationships (much less the intricacies of yours, which you'll never be able to tell them all the minute details anyway without taking several years to do it) to give good advice unless they hit the monkey on the keyboard just right by accident. :psyduck:
- In all fairness, Veronica and Henry were married for about 10 years before the divorce, that one kinda falls flat on its ass.
- Veronica and Henry divorced because of the fact Henry was gay, so unless Marten ended up following in his dad's footsteps, its two completely different issues, and thus any advice is next to useless in that context. It's like offering a hammer when what's needed is a screwdriver.
- This is about the only point I kinda agree with you with. Veronica is talking out of her own ass. From what I've gathered, Veronica really hasn't a romantic relationship since Henry and to be honest, I can't imagine it would have been that passionate. In fact, a lot of the evidence kinda points to Veronica having a lot of one night stands, pretty much the opposite of Marten and Henry. Pretty much any advice she gives is the same as when Sven tried to advise Wil about Penny and comparing it to teaching a Bedouin how to sail.
And the longer this story arc goes on, the more I wish Henry and Maurice were the ones in town again.....
This is from a woman who was so successful at her own relationship that she married a gay guy... :lol:
People don't come with labels, and don't necessarily know their own mind fully. I have seen the fall-out from a similar breakup (reverse the sexes, and factor in three children), and it was not something to laugh about - so I'd suggest you don't in future.
(That's friendly advice, not a moderator comment)
I took the hair-tousle to mean that Pugnacious Peach has moved on emotionally.
Yes, we're doing this? This is a thing now?
Because PP makes for fantastic initials.
You have to say it like a Boxing announcer,
To wit:
I this corner, weighing in at One hundred and *mumble-mumble* pounds, from Savannah Georgia,
The Pugnacious Peach,
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaye
Whitakrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre!
This is from a woman who was so successful at her own relationship that she married a gay guy... :lol:
People don't come with labels, and don't necessarily know their own mind fully. I have seen the fall-out from a similar breakup (reverse the sexes, and factor in three children), and it was not something to laugh about - so I'd suggest you don't in future.
(That's friendly advice, not a moderator comment)
...This is a comic character. That's all I view it as.
I have no issue with laughing at this predicament, especially given the wharrgrbl that has been going on in this thread. It's levity, that's all. (I'm a bit bemused since it also ended up being the punch line of today's strip too.)
As for real life. I have learned that you have to be able to laugh at it, even when it sucks. Definitely something I had to learn the hard way, but I'm much happier for knowing it now (and yes, I'll laugh at my own expense as much as anything.)
Ever since someone in another thread mentioned a QC fighting-game, I've been unable to shake off the image of Faye as Chun Li (it is probably just as well that I can't draw), but the fighting style is all wrong.
Ever since someone in another thread mentioned a QC fighting-game, I've been unable to shake off the image of Faye as Chun Li (it is probably just as well that I can't draw), but the fighting style is all wrong.I had to think for a second about the name, and then I remembered who she is.
...This is a comic character. That's all I view it as.
As for real life. I have learned that you have to be able to laugh at it, even when it sucks.
Good god Veronica sure does like her casual sex (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=434), doesn't she?Keeps her young, I'd imagine. That, and Jeph not "inking" in the smile lines.
Good god Veronica sure does like her casual sex (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=434), doesn't she?It certainly seems so. That strip you linked is the one in which Faye uses the odd expression "Colder than a penguin's third nipple". When I first read it, I immediately thought: "Penguins don't have nipples, so the 'third nipple' would be the only one." So "Colder than a penguin's arse", pehaps? Yes, I do have a rather analytical personality, why do you ask?
I don't like this. Veronica causes a lot of confusion and mayhem, and it's all wrapped up by her just casually leaving?It seems perfectly in keeping with her character to me. Blow in, tease Marten, chat to the ladies in his life, blow out. Nobody said she was supposed to be a role model. Except, like, half this forum, I guess... :-D
...This is a comic character. That's all I view it as.
It's supposed to mirror life, so (within reason) it's prudent to apply the same standards to how you view it; what you say reflects who you are. For instance, if you made a racist comment about the comic, I would pull you up on it.QuoteAs for real life. I have learned that you have to be able to laugh at it, even when it sucks.
You laugh at your own life, not at other people's.
Good god Veronica sure does like her casual sex (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=434), doesn't she?
I registered, logged in, and delurked just to tell you how much I love you for posting this.
I don't like this. Veronica causes a lot of confusion and mayhem, and it's all wrapped up by her just casually leaving?It seems perfectly in keeping with her character to me. Blow in, tease Marten, chat to the ladies in his life, blow out. Nobody said she was supposed to be a role model. Except, like, half this forum, I guess... :-D
Argh. Now I had to go and look up how penguins feed their young.What, by throwing up partially digested food in their mouths? Eh, insert comment about the internet and jadedness here. Or a Cracked article hyperlink. :-D
Long quote, click the link instead o my making this post even longer.
She comes; she's a bit insensitive pretty much the whole time; she goes. What's unexpected about that?
As for laugh at other people's lives, I think that's pretty normal. Even when sucking, other people's lives can be quite funny. I would suggest that the guidemark is that if it happened to you, would you, at some point expect to be able to laugh about it.
I got it mostly from the fact that it seemed to be opining that his mom wasn't Doing It Right to thine eyes, and he needed his dad to swoop in and make it all better, because his mom had failed at that, which just reeks to me of magical thinking.Ah. Well, I didn't bring up his dad originally, so I guess that's all I have to say. I think I kept going into too much detail, since my issue wasn't so much what she should do as what she was doing. The only thing I thought should be done was more empathy from her; any variation with more of that and less humiliating him as much as possible would have been fine and funnier/still funny, I'm sure.
I suppose I should be more sympathetic; I'm guilty of leaning pretty heavily on my folks for support in hard times, but I realize that really things are up to me now. It scares the fuck out of me, but hey, it's part of that growing up thing that happens to us all.
I continue to think your outlined expectations were, well, either a little unrealistic or you're just misrepresenting her, but hey! You are entitled to your opinion, and you've backed it up succinctly and well.
Can anyone even give an example of somebody WANTING Veronica to have hit Dora? Or even yell at her?
I didn't notice anyone actually saying that. I, personally, said that her treatment of Marten should, logically, be better than her treatment of Dora, but more in the direction of being nice to Marten, than being less nice to Dora. There wasn't really a genuinely good reason for her to have talked to Dora at all, Dora has her own parents and friends, and Veronica really doesn't have any relationship to or business with her.
Perhaps, to be fair, Marten should talk to Dora's parents? Not that they'd have much to say, but I'm sure the brownies will take his mind off the situation better than the bourbon did.
Also scope for humour with that context though.
So now it's official that Marten isn't into casual. Everything pointed that way already but now we have confirmation from on high.
I'm thinking that maybe Veronica may be trying to avoid coddling her boy too much.I rather think Veronica is simply unable to help, as she hinted herself in the previous comic (thursday, #1839). She simply wouldnt know how.
She comes; she's a bit insensitive pretty much the whole time; she goes. What's unexpected about that?
What sick and twisted mind came up with "waffles taste better with chicken"? You need help.
What sick and twisted mind came up with "waffles taste better with chicken"? You need help.
I refuse to take culinary advice from a region of the world that voluntarily cooks grit.
Yankee, oh the ignominy.
Grits.
And in that case, you're basically writing off Italy too. Or at least the parts that enjoy polenta.
Those weirdos put sugar in their grits. Sugar in their grits! That is just dumb!
Yankee, oh the ignominy.
Those weirdos put sugar in their grits. Sugar in their grits! That is just dumb!
You call something you eat "grit" and you're calling someone else dumb? Would you like to comment on the colour of the kettle there Mr. Pot?
My wife (native southerner) berates me mercilessly for puting sugar in my grits.
@The Seldom Killer - Here here. Not that I would eat chicken in any context. Or grits, most likely.
And sweet tea is a bloody abomination. Why anyone would spoil something as lovely as tea by dumping ass loads of sugar into it is beyond me.
It's "grits" then? So "grit" is a false way of saying it? What I'm saying is, I guess you could call them True Grits
*frantically packs a bag and books a flight out of the country*
Good god Veronica sure does like her casual sex (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=434), doesn't she?
Hominy on the other hand sounds like something I would be prepared to try.
It's because we put it on oatmeal, so grits are treated similarly. We don't make a distinction between them. I've had grits in several ways- cheese, salt and butter, sugar, cinnamon sugar, butter and sugar, and a couple I'm forgetting. I'd eat them all again except the butter varieties.Yankee, oh the ignominy.Those weirdos put sugar in their grits. Sugar in their grits! That is just dumb!
Thank you as well and I hope my Edit Combo above doesn't make me look like too much of a prick. For what it's worth, I 1.) may owe you an apology because I swore you were the dude who was like "he should've called his dad" first and I was tired and bluh bluh didn't check all of the posts before mine, 2.) you were one of the guys on the opposing side of the argument I felt was actually being pretty okay and not all pissed off that Dora/Veronica wasn't getting violence done to them. It may kind of be why I jumped on you, cause I'm like "dude can actually take it".Ah, cool. I like being the reasonable one. And naw man, you weren't a prick, no worries.
I do endeavor to be amusing and I'm glad to hear I cone off as such, even if I borrow my styles from all over the Internet, and your only sin in my book is taking things a little too seriously. You are insightful and pretty thought-inspiring most times! And I have never seen you make posts like my earliest ones! Those were mega nasty.
And don't forget - you're single now! You can have lots and lots of casual sex!Or, you could grow a 'stache.
I don't like this. Veronica causes a lot of confusion and mayhem, and it's all wrapped up by her just casually leaving?It seems perfectly in keeping with her character to me. Blow in, tease Marten, chat to the ladies in his life, blow out. Nobody said she was supposed to be a role model. Except, like, half this forum, I guess... :-D
This is what grits look like (http://www.ansonmills.com/page19/page41/files/page41_1.jpg), for those deprived of their presence in local cuisine.It looks like 粥 ( zhōu (http://www.gdfs.gov.cn/jkys/UploadFiles_5120/200801/20080114103949113.jpg) pronounced roughly joe ) to me. The breakfast of champions!
Au contraire {close!} (I know I didn't spell that right whatever I'm tired)! A mustache is the only kind of facial hair he can grow! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1507)(the bold type was me)
But yes, we were running dangerously low on psyduck :psyduck:
:psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
@The Seldom Killer - Here here. Not that I would eat chicken in any context. Or grits, most likely.
And sweet tea is a bloody abomination. Why anyone would spoil something as lovely as tea by dumping ass loads of sugar into it is beyond me.
Man, I will tell you as a man from the Yankee-est of Yankee states (Washington State to most, Cascadia if you want to be a huge nerd/hipster douchebag) ...
Man, I will tell you as a man from the Yankee-est of Yankee states (Washington State to most, Cascadia if you want to be a huge nerd/hipster douchebag) that grits are really tasty and--Washington is not a Yankee state though. Not even a little bit.
Maryland and West Virginia are traitors to the Cause. MD had their entire legislature (after they had voted for secession--their northern border is the Mason-Dixon line) thrown in prison with no Habeas Corpus, and WV decided that they'd just counter-seceed and scamper to those Union douches. Granted, the further South you get, the less "South" they consider anyone who is North of them--for instance, in LA, no one who is from north of I-10 (which, I might add, cuts across 2/3rds of the state) is not from "The South".The idea of "The South" most commonly held by people like you has about as much connection to the actual events & ideas of the Confederacy as shamrocks and Pot-o-gold Leprechauns have to actual Irish history.
Washington was close--Oregon was a state at that point, and there was even a battle there if memory serves.
How did we get on this subject, anyway? *checks* Oh, the unconvincing Canadian decided to insult something he's never tried, spelled wrong, and had completely incorrect assumptions about. Well, he picked a good signature, I guess.
Dear, Dr ROFLPWN, it has come to my attention that we will be fighting soon...
Sweet tea is a what? A what. Oh Hell no. Hell fucking no. I will fight you.
The idea of "The South" most commonly held by people like you has about as much connection to the actual events & ideas of the Confederacy as shamrocks and Pot-o-gold Leprechauns have to actual Irish history.
The idea of "The South" most commonly held by people like you has about as much connection to the actual events & ideas of the Confederacy as shamrocks and Pot-o-gold Leprechauns have to actual Irish history.
As much as I'd love to re-fight the Civil War with you, Sir/Ma'am, I just know that I'd win. I'm not for the South Rising Again, but if you want to infer that, you go right ahead. I've sworn numerous times to Support and Defend the Constitution from all Enemies, Foreign and Domestic. So do yourself a favor and stop being a fucking troll.
Back on Topic,
I really hope that we get something else going in this coming week. The past few weeks with this whole break-up thing are just killing my mojo for appreciation of this comic.
Never thought of Washington as "Yankee", but I'm from the northeast.Back where I come from Yankee applies to all USAnians... :D
How does it feel to be so close to another one of England's FORMER penal colonies?
How does it feel to be so close to another one of England's penal colonies?
How does it feel to be so close to another one of England's penal colonies?
'Cept NZ was never a penal colony, so the use of another would imply that there is one other than the smallest of continents nearby.
Also, I'm from Arlington, VA. That means I'm from the North. No one considers it the South except if you're from, say, Philadelphia or higher.
The US was also one, that was the joke (even though I was referencing Australia).The United States Of America is a legal and political entity, which did not come into existence until after the American Revolution (arguably not until the Treaty Of Paris in 1783), and so was certainly never a British penal colony. Any convicts shipped from Britain would have been received by its American colonies, not the by United States.
Is not Australia a former colony?? Are they not a legal and political entity? Australia as a commonwealth did not exist until 1901...Exactly. If someone specifically referred to the Commonwealth Of Australia (born 26th January 1901 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation_of_Australia)) as a penal colony, they would be just as incorrect as if they called the United States Of America one. If they use the informal term "Australia", that is fair enough because the modern country is coterminous with the geographical entity of the same name that was used as a dumping ground for the British Empire's undesirables, and five of our six states were indeed once penal colonies (South Australia was founded "free" and stayed that way). By contrast, most of the USA's territory was conquered, purchased or otherwise acquired after its founding, and never had British colonial status in the first place.
I would argue that we simply refer to it as "the US" instead of singling out the one specific example
Truth is, if the USA hadn't started things in 1776, India, Australia, Canada and several other ports of call would still be British "Colonies" and not "Commonwealths".