THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)
Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 20 Feb 2011, 17:11
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And here you go, after a long weekend of speculation, too!
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I call Faye and Dora having a girly (for them) night in with Hanners.
++edit++ It appears I was wrong.... ++/edit++
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Ohhhhhh boy.
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Wow, you know, it's starting to get really fucking irritating seeing Marten get shit all over like this in a regular basis. Give us something new please? Some character development please?
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Oh my :D
Just the right distraction for me before writing my pre-exams.
OMYGOSHPANIC :psyduck:
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"Oh, uh yeah. Girlfriend. Right." Wow, way to sound enthusiastic there buddy. Aside from the sexual adventuring (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1863) it doesn't sound like things are going too great in Steve-and-Cosette-Land.
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Even I'm starting to get annoyed.
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You can tell Angus and Padma are friends; seeing as how they both have the habit of putting their foot in their mouths.
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IT'S OKAY GUYS. Now Padma can safely flirt with Marten and they can make sweet, sweet pancakes with each other. Assuming she now finds herself interested. This isn't really Marten getting shit on as Padma making an ass of u and me.
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IT'S OKAY GUYS. Now Padma can safely flirt with Marten and they can make sweet, sweet pancakes with each other. Assuming she now finds herself interested. This isn't really Marten getting shit on as Padma making an ass of u and me.
Tune in tomorrow when Marten falls through an open manhole and finds himself in the Lair of Electrified, Groin-Biting Alligators!
I get having a bad run of luck, but JEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZ...
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Steve, Steve, STEVE!
Classy as ever... first pouring on the charm, then worried he'll lose Padma's interest because he has a GF, then being offended by her assumptions...
Although I don't really get a Henry & Maurice vibe from Steve & Marten, it shines a new light on Padma's question from Friday. "Your cute friend" suddenly becomes a complement on Marten's ability to keep a "nice catch"!
Maybe there's still hope for the shippers...
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"Oh, uh yeah. Girlfriend. Right." Wow, way to sound enthusiastic there buddy. Aside from the sexual adventuring (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1863) it doesn't sound like things are going too great in Steve-and-Cosette-Land.
Well, you have to wonder how many makeout sessions were interrupted by either fire alarms, floods, snapped necks or other drama?
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IT'S OKAY GUYS. Now Padma can safely flirt with Marten and they can make sweet, sweet pancakes with each other. Assuming she now finds herself interested. This isn't really Marten getting shit on as Padma making an ass of u and me.
Then Marten getting shit on by Steve.
And yeah, I agree, Jeph is milking the Marten's nice-guy passiveness for all it's worth. I think it's time he start investing in parts of his life that don't involve the QC regulars if he's ever going to regain his footing as an individual. Doesn't seem like the buds are helping any.
"Your cute friend" suddenly becomes a complement on Marten's ability to keep a "nice catch"!
No, it's just Padma being more interested in Steve than Marten.
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I was one of the loudest complainers on Friday, but this time, the strip was actually funny. Just hi-jinks, no kicking Marten when he's down!
Sweet baby Jesus on a pogo stick, 4 replies?
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Bloody hell Steve!!
How to win friends and influence 'em
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Marten would be justified in throwing his drink in her face. Seriously, two guys, in a bar, just talking, so they HAVE TO be gay? Really? REALLY?
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Marten would be justified in throwing his drink in her face. Seriously, two guys, in a bar, just talking, so they HAVE TO be gay? Really? REALLY?
I dunno if I'd throw my drink in her face if I were him. But I would ask her what made he assume that we we're a couple.
I mean... that's just really bad form.
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Wow, you know, it's starting to get really fucking irritating seeing Marten get shit all over like this in a regular basis. Give us something new please? Some character development please?
I passed "starting to" a couple of weeks back, when Mommy Dearest was in town.
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Oh, man.
Sorry, I meant:
Oh, bro. :oops:
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I could see how Steve could get mistaken for a gay guy, but Martin? Uh... no.
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Weird Comic is weird !
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>Padma: Execute SICK BURN
PADMA, I ALREADY LOVE YOU. PLEASE JOIN THE MAIN CAST. That was awesome. Fucking defused Steve and Marten simultaneously. Beautiful. And man, with how unexpectedly touchy-feely Steve can get and how they sometimes act, I might mistake Steve and Marty's DELIRIOUSLY SICKBIZ BRONESS for, y'know, couple-hood myself. Besides which, funny? Yes.
>Steve: Attempt to win over the hot Indian lady.
Your attempt, an overwhelming failure, makes me disappoint, Steve. Cosette is a damn fine girl, and you are not Sven. If it's just flirting on the side, then fine, but not cool, bro, not cool.
....Though, yeah, if he were into dudes he could get better than Marten. Sorry guys.
>QC Readers: Continue to shed tears of black liquid sorrow for the terrible and lamentable fate of Marten.
Oh for goodness sakes, guys. This is getting really old. Nothing bad is happening to him. :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: And CEO, holy shit, really? You would throw a drink at someone for reading your sexuality wrong? :psyduck: I mean it's not an insult! It's an honest mistake that sometimes happens! Daaaaaaaaaang.
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Um, as the negative comments are overwhelming right now:
I'd like to point out that Marten is definitely not thinking about Dora right now.
Thats a good thing, no ?
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Marten was actually assertive in this strip. In a passive-aggressive sort of way, of course...
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Well fuck, now I don't know what I was gonna write after reading the above.
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This is supposed to be his best bud here, his bro, and not only is he flirting with a girl Marten was clearly interested in, but then proceeds slam him when said girl assumes them be a couple. Bad enough, in my book, that he was seriously flirting with Padma when he's got a girlfriend he's been with for sometime. I've lost some respect /affection for Steve. He is being a sucky boyfriend and a sucky best friend right now.
Marten would be justified in throwing his drink in her face. Seriously, two guys, in a bar, just talking, so they HAVE TO be gay? Really? REALLY?
I think he'd be justified in throwing his drink in Steve's face!
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Steve is being a poor wingman. He should have mentioned his girlfriend right away.
Bros don't cock-block other Bros.
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You know that Marten Rage Storm I kept insisting was going to occur a couple weeks back?
...Steve better watch himself. :psyduck:
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Marten was actually assertive in this strip. In a passive-aggressive sort of way, of course...
and his assertiveness backfired on him again...I have this vague fear of Marten deciding that Dammit he WILL have soup, and then the soup can having a shoggoth inside.
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"Oh, uh yeah. Girlfriend. Right." Wow, way to sound enthusiastic there buddy. Aside from the sexual adventuring (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1863) it doesn't sound like things are going too great in Steve-and-Cosette-Land.
Well, you have to wonder how many makeout sessions were interrupted by either fire alarms, floods, snapped necks or other drama?
Or he could just be enjoying conversing/semi-flirting with the new hot chick he met at the bar and doesn't feel like chasing her off.
Steve is being a poor wingman. He should have mentioned his girlfriend right away.
Bros don't cock-block other Bros.
Of course if Padma isn't interested in Martin anyway, him disillusioning her is probably just going to make her leave.
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I'm looking forward to a whole week of Marten being brought down further and further. :D
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New comic = lol
Seriously, guys, the complaining about Marten constantly being "shit on" is getting old. So he gets insulted by his friends. Big deal. My friends can't go 5 minutes without saying something on par with Steve's final comment (or worse) about each other, and it's NO BIG DEAL. It's how friends are. They poke fun at each other, but in the end they're still good friends. :psyduck:
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New comic = lol
Seriously, guys, the complaining about Marten constantly being "shit on" is getting old. So he gets insulted by his friends. Big deal. My friends can't go 5 minutes without saying something on par with Steve's final comment (or worse) about each other, and it's NO BIG DEAL. It's how friends are. They poke fun at each other, but in the end they're still good friends. :psyduck:
Oh, my problem isn't with what Steve is doing really. My issue is more that since Dora chose her issues over Marten he seems to have had most of creation actively turn against him. Including his own mother, but meh.
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I could see how Steve could get mistaken for a gay guy, but Martin? Uh... no.
Um, Veronica has noted how Martin could easily slip into a corset.....and how he angered Dora into her becoming a futa (or at best, pegging).....and why my archive-fu is crashing and burning like a Yugo going into a wall at 10 MPH.....
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I could see how Steve could get mistaken for a gay guy, but Martin? Uh... no.
Huh... I'd have figured it the other way around.
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Okay, the corset thing I got (actually, it was Marten responding to mom, saying "I don't care how good I look in a corset, I'm not interested." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
But the futa/pegging part?
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I could see how Steve could get mistaken for a gay guy, but Martin? Uh... no.
Huh... I'd have figured it the other way around.
Which one is which;
Guy who obviously takes a great deal of time and effort to make himself look good, perfectly coiffed hair, tight shirt to reveal he works out. I could go on.
Other guy at the bar, scruffy hair, wearing a hoodie that quite possibly could fall apart in a strong breeze.
If you were a girl at a bar, and saw these two guys having a drink, which one would you assume was gay?
And it just goes to show what happens when you assume.
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But he's still a 100-pound guy with jet-black hair.
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Wimpy + emo ≠ gay!!
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@TheEvilDog: EXACTLY!
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Steve is being a poor wingman. He should have mentioned his girlfriend right away.
Bros don't cock-block other Bros.
I'm pretty sure when a girl asks you about your friend there isn't much a wingman is going to do for you.
At this point Marten is being a bad wingman by pointing out that he has a girlfriend instead destracting Renee like a good wingman would.
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Huh, that was an interestingly spiteful move on ol' Mar Mar's part. I mean Steve does have a girlfriend and all that, but I've seen that grudge move before. Kinda glad it worked out the way it did, lol.
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marten's being a lousy wingman because that's not what he's there for. instead, he's being a good friend.
to Cosette...
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I wish we could have seen Elliot's face through this strip.
[internal monologue] Oh they're gay *phew*, that's the only reason Padma was talking to them. Wait. . .they're not?! Oh crap! [/internal monologue]
While his body language resembles this: :psyduck:
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Panels 2-4 were from his viewpoint, how could we see his face after panel 1?
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I think people are missing the obvious plot line here....
Last week we learnt Angus's ex Renee has certain similiar personaility aspects to Faye... Martin liked Faye so today's story is to introduce Martin and Renee together who logically should get on really well for the same reasons Angus and Renee dated..... If Jeph is going down the logical story line, it'll be interesting when Martin takes Renee home to Faye and Angus.....
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Okay, the corset thing I got (actually, it was Marten responding to mom, saying "I don't care how good I look in a corset, I'm not interested." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
But the futa/pegging part?
I wonder if that was a reference to http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1236
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....Though, yeah, if he were into dudes he could get better than Marten. Sorry guys.
Depends on what you mean by "better." Steve might be able to pull a sugar daddy/poppa bear to support him in all his grooming product needs, someone burly to hold him in the night. :wink: Given how grabby Steve was getting with Marten at the bar with the whole "WE. ARE. BROS!" thing, it's not completely off-base for Padma to have thought they might be a couple. Of course, she went further than that and assumed she was right instead of considering that among several possibilities. Interesting how quickly that whole bro-bond went out the window as soon as Steve felt rebuffed.
marten's being a lousy wingman because that's not what he's there for. instead, he's being a good friend.
to Cosette...
Exactly. :-D Marten could use some less douchey male friends he can hang out with -- hey, maybe he and Elliot can go off and mope somewhere together!
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Okay, the corset thing I got (actually, it was Marten responding to mom, saying "I don't care how good I look in a corset, I'm not interested." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
But the futa/pegging part?
I wonder if that was a reference to http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1236
Or maybe http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1300
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Okay, the corset thing I got (actually, it was Marten responding to mom, saying "I don't care how good I look in a corset, I'm not interested." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
But the futa/pegging part?
I wonder if that was a reference to http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1236
Or maybe http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1300
Yes to the latter, forgot about the former.
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That seems to me like kind of a dick way to bring Steve back to reality, but I guess Steve shouldn't really have been flirting with Padma anyway. Hmm.
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Marten would be justified in throwing his drink in her face. Seriously, two guys, in a bar, just talking, so they HAVE TO be gay? Really? REALLY?
Only if you're such a homophobe that you feel being called gay is a huge insult to Marten somehow. First of all, she never said they HAD to be gay cause they were talking--she just said she assumed they were. So what? Maybe if he were there with Hannelore, Padma'd have assumed Hannelore was his girlfriend. And you don't even know what else went into the assumption--maybe the way Marten acted when he came in for his coffee and a danish. maybe the way Steve was hanging on him when trying to get him to share his feelings. Maybe something else.
Do you throw a drink in people's faces each time they make a totally harmless assumption about you? I was at my highschool reunion the other month, and I was standing next to an old friend, and another classmate assumed I was his (pregnant!) wife and asked about the baby. I didn't throw my drink in her face.
You seem to have some SERIOUS anger issues here, dude.
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Marten would be justified in throwing his drink in her face. Seriously, two guys, in a bar, just talking, so they HAVE TO be gay? Really? REALLY?
I think that'd be pretty unreasonable, and fairly out-of-character for Marten. Being mistaken for being gay isn't an insult. It was an honest mistake.
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Only if you're such a homophobe that you feel being called gay is a huge insult to Marten somehow. First of all, she never said they HAD to be gay cause they were talking--she just said she assumed they were. So what? Maybe if he were there with Hannelore, Padma'd have assumed Hannelore was his girlfriend. And you don't even know what else went into the assumption--maybe the way Marten acted when he came in for his coffee and a danish. maybe the way Steve was hanging on him when trying to get him to share his feelings. Maybe something else.
I see we're on the same wavelength here! I didn't see your post before I posted (I've been having some computer issues), so my apologies for being repetitive!
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Fine. Maybe it was an overreaction. Maybe it's just a little displaced anger at the fact that this comic isn't "Questionable Content", so much as it's "Let's Slap Marten In The Mouth Daily".
ONE BREAK, Jeph. Marten runs into an old friend, they have a pleasant, snarky time. Alt-Faye and Marten hit it off. Hell, Marten gets his tax refund, buys a PS3 and starts a league on DC Universe Online with Marigold. SOMETHING. I am REALLY tired of having my mood wrecked every time this comic updates.
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ONE BREAK, Jeph. Marten runs into an old friend, they have a pleasant, snarky time. Alt-Faye and Marten hit it off. Hell, Marten gets his tax refund, buys a PS3 and starts a league on DC Universe Online with Marigold. SOMETHING. I am REALLY tired of having my mood wrecked every time this comic updates.
You know, depending on how you look at it, Marten's totally getting a break. If you look at it as "nothing but that any girl he might be into has to fully and immediately reciprocate will do!" then yeah, he's not catching a break. But in terms of positive things happening to him? He just received indication that Padma a) remembers him as a regular customer, b) thinks he's nice enough to call over c) appears to wish to befriend him.
Yeah, she's not offering him her vagina right away, but in my book making a new friend is a plus. If I ran into someone who works at a local coffeeshop at a bar and they were friendly and welcoming and started up a conversation with me and tried to bring me into their friends circle, I would consider that a flattering and very pleasant occurrence regardless of whether romance was involved.
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I'm not sure about Padma and Renee sticking around. Having two characters introduced who are in essence bizzarro versions of protagonists is going to get a little old, unless Jeph has a twist in store for us.
I'm pretty sure this is the route we're taking. Remember what I said before: we all have our initial opinions of people, and then - as we get to know them, learn more about them and who they are, what they believe, and all that - we find all sorts of new and different ways to hate their guts. :roll:
Seriously, though: think about our current cast of characters. Marten was the mopey emo indie boy. Steve was the "ladies man". Faye was the indie chick. Dora was the goth girl. Do all of these shorthand descriptions still describe our four main characters? I doubt it.
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When I was in High School, a couple of friends of mine set off a flashbang grenade during drama class, as part of a skit they were doing. It actually knocked over everyone in the room, and burned the teacher's eyebrows off.
I don't recall for sure, but I don't remember them getting a particularly good grade...
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I'm already comfortable with the idea Padma is more than simply Dora-with-a-twist, and wonder what nuances Renee will bring; one thing Jeph has NOT written so far is a "simple" character. So I welcome the new wrinkles provided by our new "pretty good" bakery.
That said, one place I hope the story returns to soon is what I see as the center core of the strip: Marten and Faye.
No, I'm not "shipping." But I think (slightly departing from my fellow forumites who say, with some justification, the strip is mostly about Faye) that F-M is the core: Marten-and-Faye as new acquaintances, friends, coulda-been-lovers, roommates, hell-or-high-water friends (The Pugnacious Peach is depicted as the kind of person whom I call "fierce friend") -- but the last time we saw them together, in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Veronica, Marten's mouth had again operated independently of his brain and Faye's expression looked to me a little hurt and sad and resigned to the discovery her flower-pitted true friend is also a bit of a doofus.
Of course, now that I've said that, we'll have a strip this week of Marten and Faye laughing drunkenly together on the couch over Marten's Steve story. Top hats and ushankas will be in evidence, and Hanners will be discovered on the floor behind the couch, wearing a lampshade and being soundly trounced by Pintsize in drunken Scrabble.
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Revelation of the week?
Padma was just kidding about Steve. - 12 (13.6%)
Elliot really has the hots for Renee. - 3 (3.4%)
Renee will go ape$#!+ when she finds out about Faye. - 16 (18.2%)
Cross-neck scar guy is Tai's brother. - 4 (4.5%)
Elliot lives with Padma in an apartment. - 6 (6.8%)
The Faerie Girl is Penelope's sister! - 8 (9.1%)
Elliot has an AnthroPC named Stewie. - 6 (6.8%)
Renee is really Tai's sister. - 3 (3.4%)
Padma is really Tai's sister. - 4 (4.5%)
Steve worked with Renee in the DOKYA. - 8 (9.1%)
MOAR PINTSIZE!!!!!11!!!!!!!! - 7 (8%)
Where's the waffles? - 11 (12.5%)
Total Voters: 88
I don't think I'm gonna change the poll for a few days.
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ONE BREAK, Jeph. Marten runs into an old friend, they have a pleasant, snarky time. Alt-Faye and Marten hit it off. Hell, Marten gets his tax refund, buys a PS3 and starts a league on DC Universe Online with Marigold. SOMETHING. I am REALLY tired of having my mood wrecked every time this comic updates.
You know, depending on how you look at it, Marten's totally getting a break. If you look at it as "nothing but that any girl he might be into has to fully and immediately reciprocate will do!" then yeah, he's not catching a break. But in terms of positive things happening to him? He just received indication that Padma a) remembers him as a regular customer, b) thinks he's nice enough to call over c) appears to wish to befriend him.
Yeah, she's not offering him her vagina right away, but in my book making a new friend is a plus. If I ran into someone who works at a local coffeeshop at a bar and they were friendly and welcoming and started up a conversation with me and tried to bring me into their friends circle, I would consider that a flattering and very pleasant occurrence regardless of whether romance was involved.
You said this way better than I could have. You don't need girls crawling all over you to 'catch a break'. I dunno, I always thought making new friends was a good thing.
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ONE BREAK, Jeph. Marten runs into an old friend, they have a pleasant, snarky time. Alt-Faye and Marten hit it off. Hell, Marten gets his tax refund, buys a PS3 and starts a league on DC Universe Online with Marigold. SOMETHING. I am REALLY tired of having my mood wrecked every time this comic updates.
You know, depending on how you look at it, Marten's totally getting a break. If you look at it as "nothing but that any girl he might be into has to fully and immediately reciprocate will do!" then yeah, he's not catching a break. But in terms of positive things happening to him? He just received indication that Padma a) remembers him as a regular customer, b) thinks he's nice enough to call over c) appears to wish to befriend him.
Yeah, she's not offering him her vagina right away, but in my book making a new friend is a plus. If I ran into someone who works at a local coffeeshop at a bar and they were friendly and welcoming and started up a conversation with me and tried to bring me into their friends circle, I would consider that a flattering and very pleasant occurrence regardless of whether romance was involved.
You said this way better than I could have. You don't need girls crawling all over you to 'catch a break'. I dunno, I always thought making new friends was a good thing.
I'm in complete agreement with you guys on this. Not to mention, after being in a long relationship with someone, and even living with them, it's not necessary to hop back on the dating horse right away. It's okay to take a little bit of time.
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Talker Johnson, PI. He keeps talking, and he fights crime.
No, I'm not going to TV trope that.
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Obviously, the plan was that there was no plan at all...!
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"It's a web comic... about NOTHING!"
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..........I take it back. I can now see EXACTLY how she saw them as gay.
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Padma does a great angry face.
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They still think Marten and Steve are gay. This is gonna go places.
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...like a pair of horrible old women
This week is great
xD
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They still think Marten and Steve are gay. This is gonna go places.
They're not really helping their own case with their lovers spat-esque bickering.
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Ya know, I'm really starting to like Padma (I always always want to say Padme though. And I'm not even that big a fan of Star Wars! :psyduck:)
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Ok, fighting like an old married couple isn't gonna aide their "We're not gay." cause right now.
I wonder if they'll come to blows?
Bitchfight anyone??! :-D
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Bitchfight anyone??! :-D
There is nothing about that I wouldn't like.
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I think Padma's just messing with them. She probably didn't think they weren't a couple, but it sure did put them in their place. It's like an elaborate way of saying that she wasn't interested in them the way they may have thought.
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It's very simple, Akima: They fight crime. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyFightCrime)
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Oh god, there are so many jokes I could do. One liner or glasses, it's so hard. How about:
Sir, it looks like the victim and another man were arguing in a bar right before the murder. He was shot four times, but only the last bullet was fatal.
Well, it looks like...
*glasses*
He had one too many.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948)
It's very simple, Akima: They fight crime. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyFightCrime)
No no, that's too easy. What's really fun is this (http://www.theyfightcrime.org/)
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I wonder if they'll come to blows?
Doesn't everyone? (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/WdOdin/Smilies/emot-quagmire.gif)
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..........I take it back. I can now see EXACTLY how she saw them as gay.
This. They're like this adorable old married couple that can't help but constantly bicker. Combine this with Steve being willing to kiss anything while drunk...
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Oh. now Padma's just trolling.
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...Combine this with Steve being willing to kiss anything while drunk...
I LOVE YOU, MAN! *hic!*
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I actually laughed.
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Hmmm has anyone considered the fact that Steve just told Marten he likes having a finger up his ass five minutes before someone wonders if he's gay? Maybe that's why he freaked? In my experience, most guys (gay and straight) really like that particular sexual move, but straight guys get weird about it and wonder what it means about them sexually. Doesn't stop them from requesting it though.
I guess what I'm saying is that contextually, perhaps he's not so much offended as he is worried.
Just a thought.
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Marten, um... didn't you go over to flirt? You're not seeing anyone...
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Could it be that our dear Padma is a bit clueless at times? Perhaps like a certain barista (or two?) we know?
Here's my argument: Yes, the characters at our new locale (TSB) are similar to our current cast of characters - but not in the same package.
Padma is showing some signs of forgetfulness/clumsiness/obliviousness, akin to Cosette. She's also got some entrepreneurial talent, similar to Dora. She also appears to be clueless about relationships, like our protagonist Marten.
I suspect that as we learn more about the rest of the characters (namely, Renee, Elliot and Cross-Tattoo-on-Neck Guy) that they'll have aspects of their COD counterparts - but not in the ways we expect them to have them.
For example, I'm betting CrossNeckGuy may be a combination of Sven (lothario), Steve ("the good buddy"), maybe a tad bit of Angus (obliviousness?) with a bit of Wil thrown in (a poet at heart).
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My favorite part of this arc so far has been the facial expressions of the Unnamed Young Gentleman Who Was Already With Padma and Rene. He's sitting there looking distinctly uncomfortable and annoyed with suddenly being ignored while the girls debate whether or not the cute new boys are gay. I love that Jeph puts those kind of details in.
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Friday was Marten not catching a bloody break, yesterday was downright funny, today...I am honestly in the same boat as Padma right now. I mean, yes, I can bicker with my best buddies like that but there are girls present to flirt with. I guess it's hit that part of the night where things just degenerate and the best thing to do is go home and play video games.
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I'm hearing Reshma Shetty (http://www.hulu.com/watch/90359/royal-pains-reshma-shetty-on-the-casting-process) in my head when I read Padma's dialogue.
Mmm... Reshma Shetty...
D
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I am confused by everyone here, when did marten become offended about being assumed that he is gay? The only thing it loos like he was offended about during the "no we arnt gay" thing was that Steve said he could do better than Marten if he was gay. I think he is more upset at the thought that he was cock-blocked (even though Steve was just being friendly and Marten assumed Padma wanted Steve). Which is funny because when Steve called him out on wanting to get his flirt on Marten plain out denied it. If Marten wasnt planning to flirt with Padma he wouldnt have been all mopey and vindictive.
As for steve he didnt get all angry, that "WHAT?!" seemed to be surprise.
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I don't know, hearing "If I was gay, I could do better than that!" would be pretty fucking insulting.
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I'm interested in seeing how these characters grow from being Black Faye and Black Dora.
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Yeah to marten, but I am confused on how this devolved into meaning either of the two are instantly homophobic or think gay is bad.
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I'm interested in seeing how these characters grow from being Black Faye and Black Dora.
It's Indian Dora, but I'm only even mentioning it so I have an excuse to inform you that YOUR USERPIC HAS THAT SONG STUCK IN MY HEAD NOW AAAAAAAH
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3) Men will unblinkingly say that they don't want to be "harmless" to women and not even think about what that word choice implies. Moreover they will feel that being "harmless" is a negative, because... you must get women by being threatening? something? what? As though if a girl is not attracted to you, you making sure to present yourself as "harmful" or whatever is gonna change that. (Seriously does it not bother people that women often frame NOT receiving unwanted male attention in terms of physical safety--"he's safe, he's harmless," etc, and yet most men want to actively go against that?)
From every perspective but the recipient, all attention initially may be unwanted. Therefore, since women (and men too) are, as you've just said, so adamant about unwanted male attention, men who aren't celibate or taken must be threatening. It's a sad fact, but it is what it is.
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"His specialty is never shutting up, ever. And... somehow that helps him solve crimes."
Somehow?
Did Marten really just imply that "not shutting up, ever" isn't the greatest asset in crime-fighting?
Has Marten not heard of Columbo? I mean, that was his entire gimmick! He made it look easy!
Marten, I am disappoint.
Yes, this of all things is exactly what I want to complain about regarding the most recent strip.
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Thoughts:
Steve acted pretty excited that Marten was going over to talk to Padma with a goofy grin on his face. Now suddenly HE'S sitting next to her hogging the spotlight? Cock-blocking is not cool, especially when you're already taken, and doubly worse when you're supposedly at a bar to help your friend find a gal. For shame.
I see the "I could do better than THAT" remark as a pretty harmless jab between friends. I dunno why Marten's all "wahh" about it. I'm also not sure where the whole homophobia discussion came from - Steve looked surprised but not necessarily offended. That reaction is normal when you aren't expecting someone to see a situation the way it really is. I'm sure his reaction would have been similar if he was there with, say, Faye (for the sake of argument) because HE knows they're not dating so it just doesn't cross his mind that someone else might see it that way.
Padma needs a filter, big-time. If you assume someone is a couple, but they're not, keep your damn mouth shut. That goes for gay AND straight couples. It's awkward either way. It's bad enough that she already made Marten feel this big by asking who his "cute friend" was. Do people really ask that when they think the people in question are a couple? Is this a continuity error or is she just THAT oblivious to everything that's going on around her? I'm beginning to wonder if she really is a troll.
Still, I'm curious to see where this is going.
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I'll just leave this here:
(http://i.imgur.com/SlhiA.png) (http://imgur.com/SlhiA)
:psyduck:
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Yeah, that is probably where Padma got the "they must be gay" thing from.
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I see the "I could do better than THAT" remark as a pretty harmless jab between friends. I dunno why Marten's all "wahh" about it.
Because, if Marten came over to flirt, as Steve said, then Steve just told the girl Marten was trying to flirt with that he's not a good mate, or not dateable, or what have you. He's not being helpful, and is in fact harming Marten's chances with Padma.
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Because, if Marten came over to flirt, as Steve said, then Steve just told the girl Marten was trying to flirt with that he's not a good mate, or not dateable, or what have you. He's not being helpful, and is in fact harming Marten's chances with Padma.
Hey now, don't be coming over here posting things that make sense when everyone wants to drown out the notion that anything bad actually happens in the comic.
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I've asked questions like that before. This was an obvious misfire on Padma's part, but there's nothing wrong with asking that question if you know the two are a couple. It a twofold compliment, and an excellent way to break the ice: You're directly validating the companion while indirectly congratulating the person to whom you directed the question, providing you the opportunity to learn more about both of them.
I dunno, I disagree with that. Her assumption that they were a couple was already flawed. If Marten AND Steve had both gone over to talk to her at the same time, I could see where that assumption may lie, but as it stands it was only Marten who went to talk to her. Generally couples will not leave one person alone while they go talk to someone else - they'll both go over so that introductions can be made. You pointed out that it's fine IF YOU KNOW the two are a couple, and I agree with that - but she had no idea, and there really was nothing about them that would suggest they were.
So far she hasn't come across as charming to me. It's funny because in some ways Hannelore has this obliviousness too, but with her it comes off as sweet and naive, whereas with Padma it seems more like she just needs some instruction in how to act in social situations. I can't really pinpoint why I feel that way, but it just feels like her comments are often barbed.
Smilcarek - I just don't think many girls would take that comment seriously, especially coming from a straight guy about another straight guy. Though I will agree that he's not being helpful.
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"It's a web comic... about NOTHING!"
Just watched that episode today. Man, I love Seinfeld.
Oh god, there are so many jokes I could do. One liner or glasses, it's so hard. How about:
Sir, it looks like the victim and another man were arguing in a bar right before the murder. He was shot four times, but only the last bullet was fatal.
Well, it looks like...
*glasses*
He had one too many.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948)
It's very simple, Akima: They fight crime. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyFightCrime)
No no, that's too easy. What's really fun is this (http://www.theyfightcrime.org/)
Only after watching that video did I just now realize that the "YEAAAAH!" is supposed to be the scream from "Won't Get Fooled Again". This is mind-blowing for me. :psyduck:
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everyone wants to drown out the notion that anything bad actually happens in the comic.
That's not what people have been doing; rather the argument (ignoring noisy side-issues) has been about what the bad thing happening in the comic actually was.
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Jeph only said people should try to be nice to each other.
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<sigh> Didn't people in this comic used to be, generally, nice to each other?
[irony]You must be thinking of some other comic. QC started with punches and snarkiness across the board, it's just gotten more complex since then.
Hell, the abuse is probably one of the main attractions! [/irony]
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I'm not convinced Padma is as clueless as she comes off. The "couple" remark may have been a way to defuse Steve's cock blocking and put him in his place while letting Marten feel better.
Padma likes to sow chaos - or perhaps it would be better to say that she likes to throw people off kilter to see how they react and to reveal their character, so that lack of a filter may not be as clueless as it looks. She learned pretty quickly that Steve is a bit narcissistic, and that Marten, even if a bit mopey, has a positive self image and a problem with assertiveness (the 'nice guy' syndrome).
Or maybe that's all over-think, and she just thought they were a cute couple and wanted them to meet Elliot.
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I do like Padma's reply to Renee: "I'm not even sure what they're trying to do."
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It's Indian Dora, but I'm only even mentioning it so I have an excuse to inform you that YOUR USERPIC HAS THAT SONG STUCK IN MY HEAD NOW AAAAAAAH
She looks like she could be black.
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^ Your name and your avatar. They do not fit each other. I do not care.
Seriously dude, your avatar is mesmerizing.
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It's Indian Dora, but I'm only even mentioning it so I have an excuse to inform you that YOUR USERPIC HAS THAT SONG STUCK IN MY HEAD NOW AAAAAAAH
She looks like she could be black.
for all we know shes half black half asian. lay off the arguing of race and move on! Hell she could be Norwegian with a skin condition! no one knows so stop this racial BS
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What's under Martin's drink? it's red and somewhat amorphous... actually, I don't think I want to know.
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Is Renee far worse/more abrasive than Faye, or have I been numbed to Faye's behavior? Renee is probably my least favorite character in the spectrum of "possibly involved in more than a comic or three."
She almost has to be, considering the fact that even Angus couldn't handle it - and he's dealing with Faye quite nicely.
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What's under Martin's drink? it's red and somewhat amorphous... actually, I don't think I want to know.
Let's just say it's a bunched up cocktail napkin and not think too much about it.
As for the comic: why would Big Guy be quietly making thread? Also, the short haired girl sure is grumpy.
You don't make thread on a loom, you weave thread into cloth, you make thread on a spinning wheel.
Your Pun-Fu is weak!
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Renee must have hidden depths, unless Jeph is doing a one-note character, which he doesn't seem to go in for. Even Pintsize has defied expectations.
And of course the Earth's core might be molten chocolate.
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for all we know shes half black half asian. lay off the arguing of race and move on! Hell she could be Norwegian with a skin condition! no one knows so stop this racial BS
Chill, man.
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I have the same problem as Jeph and Elliot, I'm just under 6 foot in height, played rugby for years and done boxing training for the last couple of years, and apparently, when I was born I was marked out to be grand master ninja... I've lost count the number of times I've freaked people out by apparently appearing out of nowhere and saying hi.
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And of course the Earth's core might be molten chocolate.
Definitely not.
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At this rate, somebody better buy Marten a Mr. Coffee and a box of Krispy Kreme, because he's gonna "awkward" his way out of every coffee shop and bakery in western Mass. He'll work his way west until we find him getting his coffee and danish at a Starbucks along the Ohio Turnpike. Jimbo, hauling nuclear waste while waiting on the advance for his children's book, gives him a ride home.
Also, Hanners + Elliot, or even Hanners vs. Elliot = comedy gold.
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>Renee: Be the huge bitch.
Bluh bluh.
Seriously, though, Shadic, I have to agree. Renee has gone from 0 to please get off panel already without much dialogue or anything. I do not like her at all.
Padma, though, is quite charming to mine eyes, even if she is oblivious/likes to sow chaos.
And aw, poor Elliot. For once, I know his pain. :/ Quietly looming: it is an epidemic amongst dudes of a certain size.
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So now we know who the Hanners doppleganger is.
It's less cute when he smooshes his boobs together though ^_^
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And aw, poor Elliot. For once, I know his pain. :/ Quietly looming: it is an epidemic amongst dudes of a certain size.
Dude, looming bro fistbump!
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My office thinks I'm secretly a ninja. I stand 6'5", but apparently I move so quietly and quickly while walking at my normal pace that I can literally appear out of nowhere. And I'm not even trying to be stealthy/quiet.
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The discussion of homophobia that blew up yesterday is now in a separate thread to avoid it hiding the discussion of the comic itself; if it stays civil, it can continue. I hope I haven't seriously broken the continuity in either thread.
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Steve seems to have gone remarkably quickly from being tearfully happy that Marten's showing signs of moving on from Dora, to apparently trying to sabotage his attempts to do so...
The dishrag had some sort of exotic virus and is slowly melting his brain into a gooey slurpee. Hence the attitude change.
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So maybe Elliot wasn't really taken by suprise in 1865 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1865). I think we're learning that he pretty much always looks that way. He always seems to look worried and/or shocked. Maybe it's the angle at which he's being drawn though.
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The discussion of homophobia that blew up yesterday is now in a separate thread to avoid it hiding the discussion of the comic itself; if it stays civil, it can continue. I hope I haven't seriously broken the continuity in either thread.
Now I understand where my post went, even though it was on page four and had nothing to do with the topic at hand. *no longer confused*
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As for the comic: why would Big Guy be quietly making cloth? 8-) Also, Renee sure is grumpy. (edited)
What's under Martin's drink? it's red and somewhat amorphous... actually, I don't think I want to know.
A coaster...
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I am amused, and I rather like the looming guy and can sympathise as I myself have had this problem before.
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Aw he's cute :-)
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Well, even though I'm far from being as tall as some of you guys... I also have that problem a lot (apparently I'm only 5'7'' if I did my math correctly) and I have enough fluffy hair to stand out and I also speak loudly (also my social circle isn't very tall XD)... So yeah, it's weird for me as well but I just think it's funny.
Oh and Renee, meh... Just like some others said: She seems to abrasive for me. She didn't speak at all and I don't really like her at all right now.
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Elliiot can't have made much impression on Steve, since he was looking almost straight at him and didn't know he was there...
Eliot is Schrödinger's Barista. His probability wave didn't collapse until Marten and Steve paid attention, but then he popped into existence.
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So now we know who the Hanners doppleganger is.
It's less cute when he smooshes his boobs together though ^_^
Like I said. Mannelore.
When did Hanners smoosh her boobs together, though?
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Meh, my comment that got moved had 90% to do with the WCDT but it was a page or so back anyway.
Renee is just... wow, she doesn't seem to like much of anything, does she? I thought maybe we'd find out that she is just nervous in public but interesting up close, but it's not looking that way. I guess I'm not too worried though, I mean she's only had maybe five minutes of actual time. I always find it funny that a comic strip only takes maybe a minute of "real time" for the characters, but we see it for a day so it's easy to sit there and go "Omg but!" when really it just takes some time for development.
Also I am apparently not paying much attention because I was surprised when Elliott looked shocked at Padma calling over Marten's "cute friend" but I guess she must have been who he was talking about in this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1845). I'm sure someone probably brought it up already but yeah. This is why I do better reading comics in chunks rather than day to day - I forget things that JUST happened!
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Meh, my comment that got moved had 90% to do with the WCDT but it was a page or so back anyway.
Sorry, that was a slipup - I've moved it back.
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OK, I have a problem similar to Elliot, and one that's almost the negative.
I tend to take people by surprise, and occasionally get a (oh, forgot you were there!" reaction.
But I think being background has another weird effect - I used to get friends who'd been to parties I wasn't at swear I was there...
When you're "background" enough, it's assumed you're always there!
BTW, I haven't had either problem as much since I started teaching. You need to learn how to take command of a room...
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LOL that happens to me ALL THE TIME.
I have no idea why, I'm not big but I'im not all that quiet either.
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I so have been in that position before... although my quietly looming's part of me being shy and/or having nothing to say in person.
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The discussion of homophobia that blew up yesterday is now in a separate thread to avoid it hiding the discussion of the comic itself; if it stays civil, it can continue. I hope I haven't seriously broken the continuity in either thread.
And there was much rejoicing!!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/14uup0l.png)
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Was thinking as I went back to sleep this morning... Jeph doesn't tend to introduce characters with no plans to flesh them out, from what I've seen. And since Angus and Renee dated once upon a time, maybe we'll get into that. She seems too brash for him though - I'm wondering if they had a bad breakup and she's bitter? Or perhaps she heard about Faye and is ticked?
Or maybe she just belches and says "fuck" a lot, I dunno. I shouldn't think about things when falling asleep lol. Either way, it doesn't seem like Jeph brings in characters for more than a strip or two if he's not going to elaborate on them somehow, so even though I'm not keen on her, I'm willing to give her time.
(lol It's fine Paul)
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Elliot seems like a good dude. Totally worth bringing into the bro circle. I also sympathize with his quietly looming problem. I'm average height, yet seem to give people heart attacks when I pop by to say hello. The Quiet Loom Ninja Dojo needs to start keeping better track of us.
Padma seems nice so far, but the "look at the time" was lame.
Renee, however, seems a total bitch without any of Faye's charm, from what I've seen and Angus has stated.
Now, what's scar-dude's story?
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Well, as such a mass of people state they have that problem: I never had it. :-D
It kind of reminds me of that Buffy the vampire slayer episode where the girl turns invisible because people stopped noticing her.
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Black Sword, I think they did try to keep track of us, but we're just too quiet, and we just slipped into the background, terrifying friends and family with our dangerous way of saying "hi".
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Stand and scare good.
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Do you suppose they'd be willing to teach us less dangerous ways to say "hi," TheEvilDog? I don't mind having these powers, but I don't want to cause any accidental demises! Intentional demises are fine, though.
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The solution is to keep startling them until they start paying more attention to their surroundings.
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Or until they drop dead from repeated shocks. That or we quietly slink into the background and learn how to control our gift to benefit ourselves.
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Benefit ourselves? So we should master our gift, then sell our services as salutation assassins?
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Hell yeah. I need a new car.
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I dunno about her character but Renée's "Yeah, fuck this place" cracked me up.
It's also a lot more straightforward than Padma's "Oh look at the time"="this is too awkward, I'm out".
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Really, aside from Angus' assertion, I'm not sure where all this "Renee's a bitch" is coming from. So far, she reported a fire, dozed off at the counter, belched, and said "fuck this place" when her friend intimated it was time to go.
Hardly bitch material...
yet.
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Say what with you? I couldn't quite catch it. :-P
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Im'ma let Queen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pXWTG7XzH4) do the talkin'....
Meanwhile, I'm liking what I see of Elliot, he's got that strong, silent type thing goin' on. Very nice.
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Well, Elliot's the Hannelore parallel. Whoever called that at some point please accept your congratulatory Internets. He was probably going through the same thing Hanners was in 1276 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1276) for the last 3 comics.
Also in agreement with everyone else; quiet social looming powers do rule.
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Why thank'ee, thank'ee kindly (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,26066.msg1013987.html#msg1013987).
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Also in agreement with everyone else; quiet social looming powers do rule.
I was so good (bad? I suppose it depends on how you look at it) at this in college that I would have to make a lot of noise to warn people I was coming. Otherwise I would just be there. Like a ninja in a mist.
PS - I hope we get to learn more about Elliot soon!
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And aw, poor Elliot. For once, I know his pain. :/ Quietly looming: it is an epidemic amongst dudes of a certain size.
Dude, looming bro fistbump!
*BUNP*
And Carl, the "Renee's a bitch" thing is coming from RENEE BEIN A BITCH
...okay actually nah. It more comes for me from the fact that she seems to have a sort of shitty, negative attitude in every panel we've seen her in. Plus there's Angus' assertions, so yeah.
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Beef! It's BSE-alicious!
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Well Hannelore's gonna have fun passing that tomorrow.
I'm just sayin'
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...okay actually nah. It more comes for me from the fact that she seems to have a sort of shitty, negative attitude in every panel we've seen her in. Plus there's Angus' assertions, so yeah.
What, all four of them?
Renee has been in way less than ten strips, and has only reacted to other characters. Cosettes Room mate has had more dialogue.
I don't think it's fair to brand her as a certain character type given how little we actually know about her.
(Cut to two years later, Renee has just accepted the Nobel Prize for Rescuing Kittens and Curing Cancer, and folks will still be slagging her based on the impression they had the first five times they saw her. Same thing happened to Angus.)
As for today's comic, I have the same relationship to beef jerky that Hanners does. I claim to be disgusted by it, would never buy it for myself, but when left alone would eat the whole bag!
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Well Hannelore's gonna have fun passing that tomorrow.
I'm just sayin'
at the risk of sharing way too much information this is basically why I do not eat a lot of beef jerky anymore D:
As to Renee: nah, if she proves to be cool she will be cool to me; hell, I liked her first appearance where she was just announcing the fire hapen-ed. But not since we saw her in the bar. Right now: bluh bluh, huge bitch.
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Renee?
Yeah, we have surely seen her at her best. When the camera showed her burping it was probably already relatively late (judging from the level of drunken male bonding taking place elsewhere in the bar). Then she got to enjoy Marten+Steve's wonderful company. That surely ended her evening on a high note.
Very few persons managed to make a good first impression that night, so I like to think that the jury judging Renee's character is still out.
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Ooooh, I didn't know what Beef Jerky was until I searched it on google. It's the stuff we know in south america as Charqui. I also learned that jerky comes from the Quechua term charqui.... Unless wikipedia ir lying to me.
But still, I learned something today! Thanks Jeph!
...I never tried it. I want to now.
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Trying to write out BRB phonetically just makes her sound like a pirate involved in honey production. Which actually sounds a bit awesome.
Am I the only one to notice that Hanners said "mayme"?
Depends on the jerky, I suppose. Slim Jims are greasy processed mystery meat. For that matter, I stay away from all the mulched up and excreted jerky. Sliced jerky, however, is obviously muscle fiber, so perhaps Hannelore should have that. But I could never eat it all in one go, that just wastes the flavor- jerky is meant to be savored.
Being big and stealthy is partly because we are aware of how much noise we could make, so we tend to step much more lightly. I've walked with women 100 pounds lighter than me and it's interesting how much more noise their steps make. As for stealthiness in place as in the comic, we are also aware of how largedohoho an impression we make, and so our body language is a lot more passive when not actively engaged in a conversation.
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There isn't even a trial yet, let alone a jury. I just don't like what we've seen and heard of her, same as some other folks, and I think that's fair, as long as we don't let this first impression color our later discussion of her if she proves to be more than she appears/her interactions remain so minor as not to warrant further commentary on how she acts, and we don't bring it up all the goddamn time.
I mean, I don't like Penelope, either, at fuckin' all, but I don't think I need to shout it from the hilltops every time she's in the strip. However, if Penny's in the strip, does something questionable/acts abrasive/etc., and someone happens to go "man, fuck Penelope" I will be like "word, bro." Same sort of thing with Renee here.
That being said I wonder if the focus will stay on Mari and Hannelore for long? I kinda hope it'll stay on Ms. Farmer again, character development wooooooooo
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Beef jerky is fucking disgusting, and I live in the South; I figured a yankee like Jeph would hate the stuff.
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Wait, didn't Hanners grow up in a Space Station? Wouldn't she have been exposed to over-processed foods, thereby making her comments hypocritical?
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Odin as someone from further north, dried and processed beef is delicious and I can see how once she started Hanners just couldn't stop.
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Beef jerky is fucking disgusting, and I live in the South; I figured a yankee like Jeph would hate the stuff.
:psyduck: Jerky isn't grits, its popularity is distributed pretty evenly and it isn't particularly high in fat or sugar like stereotypical Southern food. Where did you pull your assumptions out of?
Wait, didn't Hanners grow up in a Space Station? Wouldn't she have been exposed to over-processed foods, thereby making her comments hypocritical?
She isn't protesting the processing, she's protesting the questionable ingredients, chemicals, and high salt- all things that Space Food would have tight controls on.
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She probably ate Healthy Space Food Pills. I also imagine her with one of those food trays with straws in them, like on the moon shuttle in "2001." Either that, or Space Jerky, which she thought she'd gotten sick of until the temptation just now got too great for her. Next up: Hanners on the drum kit, banging out "Zarathustra." With a stomachache.
Of course, she could be fucking with us. She's sorry.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1068
EDIT: "It could be butt-meat" definitely needs to be a candidate for moment-of-the-week. "It comes from the steak part of the cow" is good, too.
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For comic #1869... (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1869)
1. Have to agree with both sides on the "before & after" consequences of eating most preservative-heavy, brand-sold jerky: "flavor country" now, gastro-intestinal mess later. One of the reasons I try to avoid eating it, even while (or especially while) travelling.
2. Another point that it may say "steak" meat, but there are such things as "butt steak" too... :-P
3. For Westrim... [Hannelore]: "Mo! Mayme..." is because Hannelore's mouth is full of butt-steak jerky, with her funny-cute cheeks stuffed like a squirrel's.
4. Does the jerky bag say "Jerk.com" on it...?
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I think it says Jerk City. In any case, for the purposes of research I visited http://www.jerk.com/ which appears to be based more towards human jerks than cow parts.
I don't personally have this problem with beef jerky (never eaten it, don't at all plan to). Give me a box of doughnuts or a packet of chocolate biscuits, however...
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YAY! Moar Hanners and Mar-bear! :-D gotta love those two.
I'm not a huge fan of beef jerky, but I'll eat it if nothing else is available.
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Jerky's pretty popular amongst the hunting population, I'm told - high protein, lowfat. And you can chew it for hours while waiting for your prey.
I love the stuff, myself. And slimjims etc are beefsticks, not jerky. As for the gastrointestinal issues, that comes from not being used to the stuff. It's quite dry, and soaks up the moisture in your intestines which messes with the flow of things. Your intestines then add more moisture to get things moving, and that's where the unpleasantness arises...
Same thing happens when you eat salad rarely, or fatty foods rarely, then binge out on them. Lower GI distress...
Like Gallagher said, you gotta eat yer chemicals and build up your tolerance! Otherwise, when you get exposed to them later, they'll knock you on your ass...
Of course, he was talking about hot dogs.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm..... hot dogs...... jerky.......
Time for breakfast! :lol:
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Eww, meat.
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Well snubnose, the majority of the human population disagrees with you.
I use to live with someone who made his own jerky which was pretty cool. Good homemade jerky is far better than packet stuff anyday. Might have to try making some at some point. Already planning on making my own ham soon.
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Am I the only one to notice that Hanners said "mayme"?
No. Or as Hanners put it "Mo!" Her mouth is full of dried meat. I don't know that I've ever seen jerky, but the butchers here stock slabs of biltong to sell to people from South Africa, especially when a Springboks game is on the TV. I have never tried it of course, but it looks disgusting. So do hot dogs...
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Squee, Marbear said BRB. I thought me and my girlfriend were the only persons doing this.
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Beef jerky is fucking disgusting, and I live in the South; I figured a yankee like Jeph would hate the stuff.
:psyduck: Jerky isn't grits, its popularity is distributed pretty evenly and it isn't particularly high in fat or sugar like stereotypical Southern food. Where did you pull your assumptions out of?
The people I see eating the shit, guilt by association, etc.
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So do hot dogs...
I don't trust hot dogs. Even the ones that claim to be all-beef or all-turkey or are kosher...they're all suspect to me because their innards look like nothing I've seen before that's healthy. I'm on to you, hot dogs... :x
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Turkey hot dogs?
Please tell me this is not a real thing and just the crazed ramblings of an ill mind.
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Turkey hot dogs?
Please tell me this is not a real thing and just the crazed ramblings of an ill mind.
It is both.
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Squee, Marbear said BRB. I thought me and my girlfriend were the only persons doing this.
What? You mean contributing to the death of the English language? No, you're not the only people doing that.
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- Jerky is more of a western US thing, but it's pretty popular anywhere.
- Renee has not shown us much in the way of positives since she appeared on the scene. Please to remember the last scene before Marten and Hanners left TSB - she was face down on the counter, apparently taking a nap.
- Turkey hot dogs rule.
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So do hot dogs...
I don't trust hot dogs. Even the ones that claim to be all-beef or all-turkey or are kosher...they're all suspect to me because their innards look like nothing I've seen before that's healthy. I'm on to you, hot dogs... :x
You know what hot dogs are made out of? Lips and assholes, kid. Lips and assholes.
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Which would mean that turkey hot-dogs are all asshole.
I suppose someone's got to eat them.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAn0PBjhwW4
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Come now, no one wants to see the sausage made...
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We used to a few miles from a place that sold nothing but jerky. We used to go in there weekly. They made their own jerky out of stuff like elk, antelope, venison, wild boar, ostrich, buffalo, alligator, etc. They also had them in different degrees of spicy. So delicious.
I knew being friends with Marigold would be good for Hanners. Next thing you know she'll be eating hot dogs! And we all know those are made out of butt meat.
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Hanners and Marigold could damn near be a spinoff comic. Easily 2 of my faves :-D
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Eww, meat.
Would there be a vegan substitute for jerky, by any chance? I wouldn't mind sampling THAT... :-P
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Could ... could Hanners finally be ready for Taco Bell?
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NO.
Adding salt and preservatives to something that's identifiably meat is one thing...
Something that's less than 40% meat (by analysis) and the rest additives is quite another!
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:psyduck: I don't know where they came up with all that nonsense to begin with, but most of it is untrue, especially the "40% meat" part. And there are no secret additives - it's oats. Many companies use that as a bulking ingredient.
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:psyduck: I don't know where they came up with all that nonsense to begin with, but most of it is untrue, especially the "40% meat" part. And there are no secret additives - it's oats. Many companies use that as a bulking ingredient.
The "seasoned ground beef" contains less than 35 percent beef - the other 65 percent of the meat-like mixture is: water, isolated oat product, salt, chili pepper, onion powder, tomato powder, oats (wheat), soy lecithin, sugar, spices, maltodextrin, soybean oil (anti-dusting agent), garlic powder, autolyzed yeast extract, citric acid, caramel color, cocoa powder (processed with alkali), silicon dioxide (anti-caking agent), natural flavors, yeast, modified corn starch, natural smoke flavor, salt, sodium phosphate, less than 2% of beef broth, potassium phosphate and potassium lactate.
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I have not seen anything that says that Taco Bell themselves have admitted to 35% beef. From what I understand, nobody else has checked it except the people bringing up the lawsuit.
Our recipe for seasoned beef includes ingredients you'd find in your home or in the supermarket aisle today:
* 88% USDA-inspected quality beef
* 3-5% water for moisture
* 3-5% spices (including salt, chili pepper, onion powder, tomato powder, sugar, garlic powder, cocoa powder and a proprietary blend of Mexican spices and natural flavors).
* 3-5% oats, starch, sugar, yeast, citric acid, and other ingredients that contribute to the quality of our product.
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Sheesh. Good thing I'm long past being amazed at what starts an argument in an online forum.
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Someone bring up Taco Bell and its questionable content percentages of beef...?
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/372475/january-27-2011/gordita-supreme-court (http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/372475/january-27-2011/gordita-supreme-court)
:mrgreen: <- (burrito) <- *munch munch munch*
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Hee! <3 Colbert.
And it's not really an argument, but as a resident of AL (where the lawsuit originated) I've had to hear about this *so much* lol. My biggest thing isn't the percentages, it's the number of people who think the rest is soylent green or maybe rat poison.
Also, if you go to Taco Bell and spend a dollar but still think you're getting good food... well...
Damn, now I want a chalupa. They should make a beef jerky chalupa.
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as a resident of AL
Only two good things come out of Alabama, I-20 and Rain. :evil:
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Ahahaha! Love it. (I'm not a native haha)
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I love jerky, especially bison or handmade. It's pretty popular up here in Alberta, and I assume the other western provinces. No idea about the rest of Canada though. The idea of anyone hating jerky baffles me, I must say. I thought it was one of those things that everyone, barring Vegetarians/Hindus/etc, liked. There goes my ideals of jerky bringing the world together. First tea, now this.
Hannelore needs to try true jerky, and not the processed stuff. That way, she'll know exactly whats in it.
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The only good thing about "jerky" would be the ridiculous Slim Jim commercials featuring the Macho Man that we got out of them.
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Like I said, Slim Jims aren't even close to Jerky.
Well, they hang next to each other in the rack at the store, but that's about as close as they get! Slim Jims are a sausage ("beef stick" is their term), it's a whole different process.
I know, I know, you don't recognize such subtleties, and probably don't care, since you've lumped them all together as "disgusting".
some of us actually like our processed meat products... now, where'd I leave the braunschweiger?
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I live in a city that considers spiced beef (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiced_beef) to be a delicacy, so excuse me if I don't pass judgement on strips of meat that look like they were left behind a radiator for several months. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to see if I can find an ill emoticon.
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Slim Jim actually has jerky (example (http://www.amazon.com/Slim-Jim-Original-2-9-Ounce-Packages/dp/B000GWOGP2)), you're thinking of the sticks.
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Who the Hell buys beef jerky from Amazon.com?
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Hehehe
Now she'll have to buy some mere - for herself and Marigold.
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Slim Jim actually has jerky (example (http://www.amazon.com/Slim-Jim-Original-2-9-Ounce-Packages/dp/B000GWOGP2)), you're thinking of the sticks.
Well of course I am, because you said "slim jim", and (aside from a tool for breaking into a car), that's what a slim jim is! I'd never seen the commercials for Slim Jim Jerkey (only those damned bigfoot ones for the sticks), but I don't watch much TV, and I'd not seen the jerkey either - I think it's just not in this market yet.
Besides, "Slim Jim" has been synonynous with beef sticks since the depression! Why would I even guess you weren't the one who was confused?
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Would there be a vegan substitute for jerky, by any chance? I wouldn't mind sampling THAT... :-P
I do wish people would stop using vegan as a synonym for vegetarian. I know it's a shorter word, but that's like calling every vehicle on the road a car, because it's a shorter word than truck, lorry, bicycle, motorbike etc. All vegans are vegetarian, but not all vegetarians are vegans, OK?
I don't think I've ever seen the equivalent of jerky, but there are vegie versions of all sorts of Western-conventional foods: hot-dogs and other sausages, burgers, even bacon. They're acceptable, and convenient for social barbecues (practically a religious rite in Australia), but not my food of choice.
I forgot to say, in my earlier post on the latest strip, that Hanners and Marigold go so well together, socially and comedically.
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I do wish people would stop using vegan as a synonym for vegetarian. I know it's a shorter word, but that's like calling every vehicle on the road a car, because it's a shorter word than truck, lorry, bicycle, motorbike etc. All vegans are vegetarian, but not all vegetarians are vegans, OK?
I've been a vegan for two years; I'm aware of the differences between the two words. If I was only a vegetarian rather than a vegan, I would've asked about a vegetarian alternative instead. :-)
There's a tofu hot dog I rather like, and there are many "packet mix" burgers that are suitable, so I was just curious about the possibility of a mock "beef" jerky.
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1. For Tetrinity: http://www.primalspiritfoods.com/products_flavor_details.php (http://www.primalspiritfoods.com/products_flavor_details.php)
2. Sorry to run over your line of thought with a vegan lorry, Akima... :wink:
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Neat, thanks. I may well order some, or even try making some myself; I'm a sucker for seitan... :-P
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAn0PBjhwW4
Goddammit Discovery, bring this show back!!
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Om nom nom Butt-meat. Hanners is so awesome.
**Also, Beef Jerky is delicious. It's a tasty snack that's high in protein and is better for you than potato chips** :-D
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Eww, meat.
Would there be a vegan substitute for jerky, by any chance? I wouldn't mind sampling THAT... :-P
The local Chinese supermarket where my girlfriend lives often stock these things I think of as tofu jerky. Small, chewy strips of bean curd, impregnated with flavours like barbeque style, szechuan style, satay style. They aren't quite as chewy or as long-lasting as real jerky, but they can be pretty tasty. Since they are tofu I assume they are vegan, unless there are some really strange additives used for flavouring.
You should look to see if there's a Chinese/Asian supermarket near you.
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Eww, meat.
Would there be a vegan substitute for jerky, by any chance? I wouldn't mind sampling THAT... :-P
The local Chinese supermarket where my girlfriend lives often stock these things I think of as tofu jerky. Small, chewy strips of bean curd, impregnated with flavours like barbeque style, szechuan style, satay style. They aren't quite as chewy or as long-lasting as real jerky, but they can be pretty tasty. Since they are tofu I assume they are vegan, unless there are some really strange additives used for flavouring.
You should look to see if there's a Chinese/Asian supermarket near you.
Most "Tofu Burgers" are actually made from Okara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okara_%28food%29), a byproduct of Tofu making.
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Are tofu byproducts like beef byproducts?
Shouldn't Hannelore prefer eating synthetic chemicals? They're purer than meat, have no chance of bearing parasites, are free of pathogens, and don't have any insecticides (organic vegetables synthesize their own natural insecticides).
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I've been a vegan for two years; I'm aware of the differences between the two words. If I was only a vegetarian rather than a vegan, I would've asked about a vegetarian alternative instead. :-)
I'm sorry; my bad. :oops: <--- Red face.
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Homemade jerky is the only jerky
god daaaamn I miss my dehydrator
fff i actually made myself start drooling...
and curses on whoever brought up venison jerky earlier! :V haven't had venison in yearss, miss it so much
yay Hannelore & marigold hijink ensuing! i love those two together
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Why do I have this idea in my head that Hannelore is a vegetarian? I can't think of anything from the archives to support that idea.
We know she's not vegan, because she ordered a cheese pizza in 716.
Just wondering how much of a departure it was for her to try the beef jerky.
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Eww, meat.
Would there be a vegan substitute for jerky, by any chance? I wouldn't mind sampling THAT... :-P
That would be dried fruit - also potentially delicious, but depends on the fruit for my own tastes - peaches, apples and grapes are delicious; plums, not so much....
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I love me some fruit leather (as it's called here) but I also have access to Europe's entire back-catalogue of sausages and sausage-like spiced meat products, as well as every kind of ham. Jerky just kind of got squeezed out of the market.
Unless you're willing to go to an Aussie bar and get massively over-priced biltong jerky.
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Hanners seems always to push her boundaries when no one is looking. When she does something ostensibly out of character around the other characters, they all call her on it, sometimes sort of accusing her of being inconsistent. Is this just because her getting caught is a cute gag, or are her friends typecasting her, keeping her from growing?
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- Renee has not shown us much in the way of positives since she appeared on the scene. Please to remember the last scene before Marten and Hanners left TSB - she was face down on the counter, apparently taking a nap.
That is quite possibly the biggest positive I've ever heard.
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I'm sorry; my bad. :oops: <--- Red face.
'Tis quite alright, you didn't know. I get annoyed with people misusing the words too. :-P
That would be dried fruit - also potentially delicious, but depends on the fruit for my own tastes - peaches, apples and grapes are delicious; plums, not so much....
True, though fruit doesn't really try to emulate beef jerky (I'd be rather worried if it did!). I'm rather fond of apples and apricots myself. Limes too, but you don't really get those in dried form.
I think there's more evidence towards Hanners being an omnivore than a vegetarian. Even discounting the beef jerky, there have been literally(?) no references by her to vegetarianism. I'm not even sure if it's been mentioned at all in the comic other than the lobster hipster and Marten's mom being grossed out by a discussion about eating animal muscle, and those were both VERY early on in the comic, way before Hanners was even introduced.
It does seem like the sort of thing she might do, though. Perhaps she's just never really given it much thought.
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She did (try to) eat a burrito that one time, but got put off by a katydid...the only other time's we've seen her consuming anything that I can recall involved (new) alcoholic beverages and hilarious/adorable grimaces.
Maybe she really is a robot/cyborg, powered by an alcohol fuel cell, after all....
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What? You mean contributing to the death of the English language? No, you're not the only people doing that.
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore." - James Nicoll
I agree with him, and I majored in it at university.
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Diane Duane once put these words into a character's mouth: "English doesn't so much borrow from other languages as chase them into dark alleys, knock them down and go through their pockets."
"Impact" as a verb still makes me grind my teeth, though.
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Ar, that be rite then there lad.
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Hanners' reaction to the beef jerky is identical to mine when I'm around venison jerky. Seriously, I can eat an entire bag of it and be well into a second before my brain breaks through the euphoria that is the taste of homemade venison jerky and tells me to stop...futilely. Same thing for venison sticks.
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Eww, meat.
Would there be a vegan substitute for jerky, by any chance? I wouldn't mind sampling THAT... :-P
That would be dried fruit - also potentially delicious, but depends on the fruit for my own tastes - peaches, apples and grapes are delicious; plums, not so much....
Sir, dried fruit is no substitute for jerky. I like it, but I wouldn't call it a substitute; I would say it's an entirely different entity.
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Most "Tofu Burgers" are actually made from Okara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okara_%28food%29), a byproduct of Tofu making.
I coulda swore that said okra. Took three readings to ralize I was wrong.
Thank goodness.
The thought of an okra burger is just... harsh
Hanners seems always to push her boundaries when no one is looking. When she does something ostensibly out of character around the other characters, they all call her on it, sometimes sort of accusing her of being inconsistent. Is this just because her getting caught is a cute gag, or are her friends typecasting her, keeping her from growing?
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The only time I recall anyone "calling her on it" was with the earrings. Any corrections are more than welcome. Aside from that, you make an interesting point. Do OCD sufferers push boundaries more when alone, or in a social situation? I spose it may depend on the individual, and I know some of them never push those boundaries at all without professional help.
Also, she's a pokeslut. That was definitely a boundary push, as was the pretend date. Both done in front of friends!
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I also read it as okra first time round.
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Kind of interesting to me that, as Hanners pushes her boundaries (whether the rest of the cast sees it or not) and, theoretically, develops as a character -- it seems to me, anyway, that Jeph is drawing and writing her steadily younger than the rest of the cast. I know the "powerful" drugs were offered and accepted as the explanation, but in that Famous First Encounter and for many strips thereafter, Hannelore (not yet Hanners) was almost a contemporary; now she seems like everyone's little sister.
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What? You mean contributing to the death of the English language? No, you're not the only people doing that.
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore." - James Nicoll
I agree with him, and I majored in it at university.
Linguistically speaking, besides, addition of things like BRB does nothing to the English lexicon but expand it. A language doesn't die unless it's systematically suppressed.
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Hanners, CALM THE FUCK DOWN!!!
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>Hannelore: Flip the fuck out.
You do so. Marigold is utterly nonplussed with this unsurprising development.
You know how the Thricefold Posse (and Steve) were saying Marty and Steve were bros? Nah man. These two. These two are bros.
Hanners <> Marigold forever.
(and yes rje since I never got back to you before if by "bit of a Homestuck fan" you mean one of the wretched people who spend half a night F5ing in hopes of updates, yes, I am one of those ;_;
fuckin' Hussie mang)
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Just chiming in to say: Mari is just HUGE. Did she and the others ever go bra shopping for her?
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That's a pretty formfitting shirt Marigold's wearing, it's tucking quite nicely under her mammaries.
Also, Hannelore, she didn't eat 100 bags at once! And haven't we seen Marigolds' expression before on someone else who was also responding to Hanners spazzing out?
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I have an odd urge to hug Marigold, either that or give her a plush walrus, plush walruses are helpful when dealing with friends freaking out.
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Plush walruses need to be a recurring poll option.
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Does anyone make a plush walrus eating a waffle?
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The best thing here is easily Marigold's ¬¬ face being so perfect.
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The best thing here is easily Marigold's ¬¬ face being so perfect.
How did you make those? Also I vote that we bring back the good old GOOGLE IT!, but I may be biased. Perhaps we should have a poll asking what punny poll items we should use?
EDIT: Woohoo! 400 posts and an upgrade from 'pneumatic ratchet pants' to 'fight you'!
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Waffle the Walrus (http://www.amazon.com/Trudi-16634-Plush-Walrus-23/dp/B0002VLMNG).
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For comic #1870...
1. Ah there is the OCD panicky Hannelore we all know and love and laugh to. Earnest naivete like Hanners' is generally good comedy (conversely, abusing someone's naivete generally deserves severe beatings).
2. I think Marigold and Hannelore need to take a trip to The Secret Bakery soon... :evil:
3. You are not paranoid when They are really after you. Just ask the schizophrenic voices in your head.
4. Could not find any plush walruses with waffles, how about a grumpy one with an ushanka...?
(http://kid-robot.s3.amazonaws.com/products/VasilytheGrumpiestWalrusPlushbr16Inch_large_image1_8609.jpg)
http://www.kidrobot.com/Toys/PlushToys/VasilytheGrumpiestWalrusPlush16Inch.html (http://www.kidrobot.com/Toys/PlushToys/VasilytheGrumpiestWalrusPlush16Inch.html)
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Just chiming in to say: Mari is just HUGE.
All that pockey and jerkey has to go somewhere...
I have an odd urge to hug Marigold, ...
This is not unrelated to the previous quote, is it? gotta get my mind out of the gutter! :laugh:
Waffle the Walrus (http://www.amazon.com/Trudi-16634-Plush-Walrus-23/dp/B0002VLMNG).
"We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
:cry:
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What? You mean contributing to the death of the English language? No, you're not the only people doing that.
Technically, we talk German 99% of the time, so you could at most argue we are contributing to the death of German language :P
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We know how Hanners stays so slim. It's all the joules she burns flailing and flipping out!
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So... OCD as a way to lose weight, then? I doubt that'll catch on! :lol:
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Revelation of the week?
Padma was just kidding about Steve. - 15 (11.7%)
Elliot really has the hots for Renee. - 4 (3.1%)
Renee will go ape$#!+ when she finds out about Faye. - 22 (17.2%)
Cross-neck scar guy is Tai's brother. - 5 (3.9%)
Elliot lives with Padma in an apartment. - 8 (6.3%)
The Faerie Girl is Penelope's sister! - 8 (6.3%)
Elliot has an AnthroPC named Stewie. - 10 (7.8%)
Renee is really Tai's sister. - 4 (3.1%)
Padma is really Tai's sister. - 8 (6.3%)
Steve worked with Renee in the DOKYA. - 12 (9.4%)
MOAR PINTSIZE!!!!!11!!!!!!!! - 12 (9.4%)
Where's the waffles? - 20 (15.6%)
Total Voters: 128
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By the way: anyone notice that the eyes of the girl in the one poster changed since we last saw it?
...Didn't think so. :lol:
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We know how Hanners stays so slim. It's all the joules she burns flailing and flipping out!
Then explain why I'm not that skinny with all the jumping to conclusions and running off at the mouth that I do.
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Welp. Marigold tried. OFF TO FLAIL AND PANIC!
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What? You mean contributing to the death of the English language? No, you're not the only people doing that.
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore." - James Nicoll
I agree with him, and I majored in it at university.
Diane Duane once put these words into a character's mouth: "English doesn't so much borrow from other languages as chase them into dark alleys, knock them down and go through their pockets."
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."
# (This observation is extensively quoted even outside of Usenet, and has appeared in textbooks. It has also been misattributed, in part and in whole, to Booker T. Washington, to Ambrose Bierce, and, in one case, to the painter James Nicoll (1846–1918).)
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ooo what fun hanging out with hanners
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Please remember that incivility and ad hominem remarks are not tolerated here.
Paul
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Hey, now - that was uncalled for!
(was that uncalled for? I don't really know either of you well enough to tell...)
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I suddenly had this vision of Corporal Jones from Dad's Army
"Don't Panic!!!! Doooooooon't Paniiiiiiiiiiic!!!!!!!" :D
That's the Hanners we've all come to know and love alright.
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What? You mean contributing to the death of the English language? No, you're not the only people doing that.
Technically, we talk German 99% of the time, so you could at most argue we are contributing to the death of German language :P
Well thats alright then :-D
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Hello, anonymous internet forum. I...I have a confession to make.
I don't like Hannelore. AT ALL. I don't think she's cute, I don't think she's funny, I don't find her antics enjoyable or droll or anything of the sort. If I had someone in my social circle who behaved like her, I would go out of my way to never be in the same room with them. In short, I don't get the Hanners love.
I'll be in the corner awaiting the inevitable flogging.
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The only people that like Hannelore as a character are the ones not-so-secretly wishing Jeph would Rule 34 her.
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I knew someone in our social circle with that level of naivete. And, IRL, I did try and avoid her - it was like having a conversation with one of those those early AI programs - incredibly frustrating, and you had to explain everything.
I personally like Hanners best when she calls people on their own silliness, or drops pearls of absolute wisdom into a conversation.
The freakouts would be hard to deal with IRL as well, but that would induce feelings of pity and frustration more than aggravation and disgust. I'd want to help calm her...
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I knew someone in our social circle with that level of naivete. And, IRL, I did try and avoid her - it was like having a conversation with one of those those early AI programs - incredibly frustrating, and you had to explain everything.
I personally like Hanners best when she calls people on their own silliness, or drops pearls of absolute wisdom into a conversation.
The freakouts would be hard to deal with IRL as well, but that would induce feelings of pity and frustration more than aggravation and disgust. I'd want to help calm her...
I'd want to help her, too...
...until the 156th time it happened, then I might just tell her to F off.
Personal story time!
I have a group of friends who share a common hobby, and we'll get together a few times a year for an evening of laughter, friendship, and damn good beer. Everybody has a great time, we all have maybe one or two too many beers, and merriment is the rule of the evening.
...except for one person who always, and I mean always, has an emotional meltdown at roughly the same time every party. The first couple of times it happened, we would all stop the raucousness and try to calm them down and get them back into the swing of things. The problem was, it sucked the life out of the party for a good hour or so, but we didn't care because hey, who hasn't been there emotionally, right?
When it started happening at EVERY party, EVERY bar night, EVERY cookout, EVERY event is when it got damn old, and we all stopped giving half a crap.
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I've had a couple co-workers who exhibited low-level Hanneloreism (one would stand behind you as you worked, staring at the back of your neck, waiting for you to turn around instead of saying something like "Hi" or "Excuse me ... " ... Yeah, this unabashed Hanners fan wonders how he'd handle knowing one in real life.
I wonder if that's why Jeph seems (to me, anyway) to be de-aging her, to where she's more like a cute goofy kid instead of the creepy woman upstairs, and therefore easier to like as a character.
My other theory is that she's the Spock (or better, Data) character: The outsider's perspective on human foibles.
EDIT (after reading posts that went in about same time as this one): Hanners' saving grace as a character is that she does step outside herself, to help a friend or otherwise perform maintenance on her social circle. In so doing, she helps herself as well .. either coming to terms with some aspect of her condition or battling it, even a little. Even in the current strip, her concern for herself transfers (albeit comically) into concern for Marigold.
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Linguistically speaking, besides, addition of things like BRB does nothing to the English lexicon but expand it. A language doesn't die unless it's systematically suppressed.
I have so much like for this statement. :-D
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Most "Tofu Burgers" are actually made from Okara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okara_%28food%29), a byproduct of Tofu making.
I coulda swore that said okra. Took three readings to ralize I was wrong.
Thank goodness.
The thought of an okra burger is just... harsh
Don't feel bad, I keep thinking of Okada (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-6Gcw5nSMc) for some odd reason.
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The only people that like Hannelore as a character are the ones not-so-secretly wishing Jeph would Rule 34 her.
I hate to be the exception to your erudite goddamn theory, but I like Hannelore as a character, yet I don't pop huge boners off of her; it's hard to think of her as sexual at all.
And Armadillo, Carl: you're reaching. By a lot. Hannelore is not that fucking bad. Two of my best friends in the world have ADD/OCD combos in a hardcore way, and yet I love hanging out with them. Their "freakouts" become comedic once they settle down and are back at the level, and are really not that disruptive unless they occur at a big social gathering. Anyone going into FTFO mode at a big social gathering is disruptive, and I don't think we've actually seen her disrupt a party like that.
Her space-born naïveté, I admit, I've never had to deal with, but as an obviously exaggerated character, it's charming, a quirk. Probably dealing with it in real life would be grating? I guess? Dealing with Marigold in that setting would too: anyone who's actually spent time with someone like Marbear knows that; a male version of her was the dude my primary social group, nerds all, just had to cut ties with because he was too fucking annoying. Fuck, Faye would get one round of shitty, snotty remarks before I divested myself of her company entirely.
And then fucking Marten. I have dealt with Martens. You want to punch them. They are not cool. You know who had all the emotional breakdowns at parties/in public everywhere I've lived? The Marten types.
There is a reason they are "realistic characters", not real people.
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Wanting to punch someone who had shitty things happen to him and isn't happy about them is kind of a dick move.
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If they can't stop bringing it up all the goddamn time or keep bemoaning that they don't even know why they came, this was stupid, bawwwwww, I feel perfectly justified in being a dick to them. I mean, it's like "sorry, skinny emo indie dude, I don't want to hear about your fucking problems all night. We asked if you felt like coming, you said yes; part of the social contract is not being a whiny piece of shit."
This could segue into a miniature rant about how the more I hear about Marten's problems, the less I like Marten himself. It makes him a cipher/Everyman a little more for me every time someone projects onto him, and it's kind of distasteful. I'm starting to agree with a friend of mine, who would suggest to Jeph that maybe he should go the Bobbins/Scary-Go-Round/Bad Machinery route; start fresh, same locale, but different characters as the focus.
Of course, I'm not Jeph, and I'd like to see what Marten has in store for him next, sure, but...come on, people, he had a girl break up with him? People are not as sensitive as you'd like about it? He can't score his first night back on the scene? CALL THE POLICE, IT'S THE MINOR PROBLEMS OF LIKE EVERY 20-SOMETHING. Yet every week, I hear about how shafted he gets and how terrible his life is! Bull, the dude has an intact social circle post-breakup, a job that pays for a snazzy goddamn apartment and looks ridiculously easy, and is blessed with good looks and charm. Marten is going to be just fine.
Shit, I went and did an acrobatic pirouette off the handle, but I'm tired of this phenomenon. It ain't gonna stop, but at least I registered my complaint. >:[
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Well, that's it. It's not him who is complaining every time about how shitty his life is. The comics about his post-breakup have been going on for many weeks but in comic time, it was just 1-2 days after said breakup until recently. And I think a few days after, he is allowed to feel mopey about it. The ones complaining about his shitty life are we readers because for us it has been going on for weeks whereas for the character it has just been a few shitty days.
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Jeez, what's with the sudden bust of Hannelore dislike? Unless there's a large stock of socially stunted space babies I don't know of, she isn't like anyone in real life - that's why she's amusing. She isn't constantly naive - often she's the most insightful character in the comic. It is a tool that Jeph uses occasionally, but just because a car has a sunroof doesn't mean it's defined by it. Same with the freakouts- there's been what, 5 over the course of the strip? 10, at the absolute most? And the ones that I recall are all for understandable things, like getting touched too much or inadvertently hitting on the boyfriend of a very insecure person. Most of the rest of the time she's a very non self centered person and constantly pushing herself to be better and more social, and the worst thing to do to someone like that is rebuff them and encourage their isolation just because you find them to be awkward.
Doc, remember that until a couple strips before the bar (at which point it timeskipped at least a couple weeks), every comic since the breakup had been within a week of the breakup. There was even a big conversation about Marten's mom and her behavior (which I refuse to go back to) because while it had been a month and a half realtime, it was only two days later comic time.
At any rate, I don't recall Marten showing up to any gatherings asking "why am I here?" unless he was dragged into going. He's usually a pretty mellow, optimistic guy, and I think with all the hubbub since the breakup people are forgetting that. Go binge on a string of comics in the 1000s to remember how happy everything normally is.
But yes, please don't conflate the forum's behavior and attitude over the last couple months with the characters behavior and attitude, either during that span or the life of the comic. That way be :psyduck: and :evil:.
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You're right, you're right. I am even now reconciling with the handle, and I may have overstated/projected (whoooooops) the "Marten type" for effect. I'm just frustrated. What I really want is to see Marten move forward and gain a new conflict, a new storyline, etc. And I think it's good to see Jeph moving towards what could potentially be one.
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You're right, you're right. I am even now reconciling with the handle, and I may have overstated/projected (whoooooops) the "Marten type" for effect. I'm just frustrated. What I really want is to see Marten move forward and gain a new conflict, a new storyline, etc. And I think it's good to see Jeph moving towards what could potentially be one.
It's okay, it happens to the best of us, and certainly to me. And I agree that the sooner there's no more angst concerning Dora, the better.
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You're right, you're right. I am even now reconciling with the handle
That just sounds wrong...
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At this point, I'd actually rather one of the other main characters in some sort of conflict, either from the fallout of the breakup or from their own misadventures.
For example, we all know Dora is "fine" after the breakup, though there are hints that she expects her friends to be abusive towards her, to blame her, etc, and how we expect her to be in therapy. But what if she was confronted with the idea that Marten was getting his coffee from one of her rivals, or that they were getting friendly? Would we see Dora sighing to herself and saying that Marten has moved on, or would we get a typical Dora reaction where she sees something, gets the wrong end of the stick and ends up having to apologise to everyone in the building? Needless to say, thats just one scenario, but there are other possibilities.
It would be kind of interesting to see how the others might react in those situations, but then again, it's Jeph's comic, we're just along for the ride.
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At this point, I'd actually rather one of the other main characters in some sort of conflict, either from the fallout of the breakup or from their own misadventures.
For example, we all know Dora is "fine" after the breakup, though there are hints that she expects her friends to be abusive towards her, to blame her, etc, and how we expect her to be in therapy. But what if she was confronted with the idea that Marten was getting his coffee from one of her rivals, or that they were getting friendly? Would we see Dora sighing to herself and saying that Marten has moved on, or would we get a typical Dora reaction where she sees something, gets the wrong end of the stick and ends up having to apologise to everyone in the building? Needless to say, thats just one scenario, but there are other possibilities.
It would be kind of interesting to see how the others might react in those situations, but then again, it's Jeph's comic, we're just along for the ride.
Bitching and asking "are we there yet" and poking the people next to us all the way.
Hey, I like that. Sigging.
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MOMENT... OF... THE WEEK!!!!
Best Birthday Party Ever! - 1 (1.7%)
Ask him how he met his GIRLFRIEND. - 1 (1.7%)
Wait, so you guys AREN'T a couple? - 8 (13.3%)
If I were into dudes, I could do WAY better than that! - 1 (1.7%)
You were FLIRTING with me! And you have a GIRLFRIEND! - 0 (0%)
MARTEN's the one who wanted to get his flirt on with you. - 2 (3.3%)
You made it AWKWARD. Maybe it wouldn't have BEEN Awkward... - 0 (0%)
Talker Johnson PI - he talks too much, and somehow that helps him solve crimes. - 13 (21.7%)
I'm not even sure what they're trying to do - 0 (0%)
Oh, look at the time, I'd better get going. - 0 (0%)
Elliot: "I'm sure Padma won't make a..." - 0 (0%)
AAAAAA! How can a dude your size be so stealthy? - 5 (8.3%)
I tend to quietly loom. It's a problem. - 8 (13.3%)
Eww, you eat beef jerky? It could be butt-meat! - 2 (3.3%)
It came from the steak part of the cow. - 3 (5%)
Bee arr bee. - 0 (0%)
Did you eat all my jerky? (MO! Mayme...) - 9 (15%)
I'm gonna have a heart attack! - 0 (0%)
If you could get a heart attack from ONE bag of jerky... - 1 (1.7%)
OH MY GOD WE HAVE TO GET YOU TO THE HOSPITAL - 6 (10%)
Total Voters: 60
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Honestly, I've got some similarities to Hannelore - I don't exactly identify with her, because I don't have OCD or any real incarnation of it that I know of. I had some very serious social issues when I was younger and had all sorts of stupid neuroses that would prevent me from interacting like a regular person (for example, if people could see my socks, it would drive me batty, to the point that I couldn't focus on anything else). I've since worked through a lot of them and am better, but they still come out.
People tend to get really frustrated with you, like a lot of the posters are saying here. It's hard when things will just set off your friend into a round of freaking out and you can't really do anything to stop it, and if it happens often, it starts to wear you down, too. Hannelore is lucky in that she's got some very understanding and patient friends. She's fun to read about, and I do enjoy her as a character (I don't have any desire to see her Rule 34'd, though!). I think the thing that makes me like her the best is that she's trying to deal with her issues. I have a lot of patience for people who are putting forth effort. Hannelore has taken risks that scared her, tried new things (her trying different medications and whatnot kind of struck home for me), and had some failures along the way. That makes her a more sympathetic character than someone who's like, "everything is terrible, and it's just going to stay that way! TERRIBLE."
On a similar note, I think that's why many of the characters are sympathetic in the comic, even if you wouldn't like them in real life. Almost all of them are making a conscious effort to try to work through their issues and be better people.
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it's Jeph's comic, we're just along for the ride.
Bitching and asking "are we there yet" and poking the people next to us all the way.
Hey, I like that. Sigging.
So happy to provide you with 9/26ths of your new signature. :-P
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it's Jeph's comic, we're just along for the ride.
Bitching and asking "are we there yet" and poking the people next to us all the way.
Hey, I like that. Sigging.
So happy to provide you with 9/26ths of your new signature. :-P
Yes, that was quite kind of you. 8-)