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Title: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: scarred on 10 Mar 2011, 23:36
live video feed (http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvtxgMnMb1qdymwko1_500.jpg)

for comparison, a 7.9 would be approximately equal to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb

8.9 is 336 megatons
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Tom on 11 Mar 2011, 00:10
Shit, isn't Emilio still in Japan?
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Eris on 11 Mar 2011, 00:15
Emilio is in gabbly saying he is ok. It is gryff we are worrying about.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Eris on 11 Mar 2011, 00:16
Oh, and everyone else affected by the earthquake, I guess.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Dollface on 11 Mar 2011, 00:59
Oh fuck and i thought i was only one who understands news.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Spluff on 11 Mar 2011, 01:14
Oh fuck and i thought i was only one who understands news.

What the fuck?
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Lunchbox on 11 Mar 2011, 03:03
We have heard news that Gryff is ok.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Lunchbox on 11 Mar 2011, 03:04
Also crap

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhvytuIOIA1qgpnydo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Rizzo on 11 Mar 2011, 03:06
Comparatively speaking, that highway collapse could be a lot worse. Apparently highways with 2 supports tend to drop straight down, killing the drivers.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: E. Spaceman on 11 Mar 2011, 03:15
As Hannah said, i am ok! Gryff is also OK! It was pretty dang scary here in Katsuura but nothing much happened aside from some dang nasty shakes and a small (2 M) tsunami. No deaths though and no apparent damage to the city.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: jhocking on 11 Mar 2011, 04:34
I am glad you're safe. That is a huge quake.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: nobo on 11 Mar 2011, 05:02
At least 1 nuclear plant on fire with problems being reported at 2 other plants in Japan. Tsunami expected to hit Hawaii in the next hour or so.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Lines on 11 Mar 2011, 05:14
I'm glad our forumite friends are safe. I've heard one of my meat life friends that's over in Japan as well is also safe. And everyone else...just hoping for the best.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Mar 2011, 10:05
I also had meat-life friends in Japan, as it turns out. They are also OK! One of them posted some footage they shot to Facebook, and you can see the concrete in the parking lot they're in cracking as they walk past it. Craziness.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 11 Mar 2011, 17:04
It took until well in the afternoon for my family to be able to confirm that my cousin was safe.   It was quite a relief when that news finally came.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Jimor on 12 Mar 2011, 01:07
My brother lives in Tokyo and he was at work when it hit. He's fine other than the 2-hour walk home because of the transit system shutdown. The videos from the tsunami devastation are horrific.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 12 Mar 2011, 01:13
Looking like a nuclear power station is in significant difficulty. Not melting down at the moment but evacuation at 10km and exclusion at 60km. A non nuclear explosion has occured and they've had to vent radioactive gasses into the environment.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KvP on 12 Mar 2011, 01:22
A containment wall to the reactor has been compromised, according to Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110312).

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NHK television and Jiji said the outer structure of the building that houses the reactor appeared to have blown off, which could suggest the containment building had already been breached.

Italian geologists reporting that the earth's axis tipped by 25 cm due to the quake, and the island of Japan as a whole shited 2.4 meters. Insane shit.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 12 Mar 2011, 01:32
The main reactor is housed below ground level. The structure that has blown up is the maintenance and engineering section. That it has blown up doesn't really suggest a breach and looking at the scale and pattern of the explosion it looks likely that this is ignition of a build up of hydrogen gas from an overloaded cooling process that has lost it's venting management. I reckon NHK and Jiji are being speculative. But then I watched the news sat next to an engineer with a rudimentary understanding of nuclear reactors.

The risk of meltdown is certainly high, but a containment breach is by no means definite.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Mar 2011, 02:34
Wow. I imagine that kind of shift is going to affect the weather, right? As in, globally? That is one hell of a shift. Maps will have to be redrawn. Is this common? I know less than nothing about topography and geology and similar geographical fields.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Nodaisho on 12 Mar 2011, 03:20
I saw a map of the fallout potential in event of a meltdown. Had southern Alaska, BC, parts of other provinces, and the western half of the US in the projected area hit by 750 rads. Good news (really good news considering that 750 rads means 90-100% fatalities of untreated and 50-100% fatalities of treated) is that it's bullshit. Up above a thousand rads is "literally using a shovel to get radioactive molten slag back into the reactor" exposure, 600+ rads is "Sitting in the control room 20 yards from the reactor attempting to do damage control" levels. Just in case anyone else sees that map and gets scared by it.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Mar 2011, 06:05
I'm glad I read this thread this morning because the CBC is reporting all of that scary stuff completely unmoderated.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 12 Mar 2011, 06:08
News outlet in sensationalist shite shocker. I am infinitely glad for the fairly moderate and balance voice of the BBC news service.

Also - quite an important difference in terms to distinguish here in the news reports.

Evacuation Zone - an area around an incident from which people will be evacuated. This is a safe distance to which people need to be moved to safeguard them from harm from the incident.
Exclusion Zone - An area around an incident from which people will be prevented from entering. This is usually a measure put in place to prevent crowding in an area where safety measures are being executed and is largely designed to prevent services and and authorities being hampered by news crews, concerned civillians and other commercial activity.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: McTaggart on 12 Mar 2011, 07:37
I saw a map of the fallout potential in event of a meltdown. Had southern Alaska, BC, parts of other provinces, and the western half of the US in the projected area hit by 750 rads. Good news (really good news considering that 750 rads means 90-100% fatalities of untreated and 50-100% fatalities of treated) is that it's bullshit. Up above a thousand rads is "literally using a shovel to get radioactive molten slag back into the reactor" exposure, 600+ rads is "Sitting in the control room 20 yards from the reactor attempting to do damage control" levels. Just in case anyone else sees that map and gets scared by it.

Yeah I saw that too. What tipped me off about it being bullshit was that it was allegedly issued by the 'Australian Radiation Services' or something, which is a private company that sells radiation safety stuff and not the sort of organisation that would issue a map like that ever, let alone at 6 on a Saturday arvo.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Caleb on 12 Mar 2011, 13:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6iDBoOvb0

God.  It just picks the cars up and carries them away.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: CardinalFang on 12 Mar 2011, 14:32
http://www.esri.com/services/disaster-response/japan-earthquake-tsunami-2011-map/index.html (http://www.esri.com/services/disaster-response/japan-earthquake-tsunami-2011-map/index.html)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KvP on 12 Mar 2011, 15:07
Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/03/larry-kudlow-devalues-human-life-with-japan-earthquake-freudian-slip.html).
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Spike on 12 Mar 2011, 15:14
Wow. I imagine that kind of shift is going to affect the weather, right? As in, globally? That is one hell of a shift. Maps will have to be redrawn. Is this common? I know less than nothing about topography and geology and similar geographical fields.


I'm not an expert, but a 25cm in the axis may not impact weather too much. The Earth's axis wobbles over the course of thousands of years already as part of its Milankovich Cycles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles#Axial_tilt_.28obliquity.29)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Mar 2011, 15:25
Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/03/larry-kudlow-devalues-human-life-with-japan-earthquake-freudian-slip.html).

Hey man he's just saying what everyone is thinking
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: JD on 12 Mar 2011, 16:20
Certainly not what I'm thinking.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Akima on 12 Mar 2011, 18:13
Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/03/larry-kudlow-devalues-human-life-with-japan-earthquake-freudian-slip.html).
:psyduck: Even on its own terms (money is more important than people), that guy's remark was pretty stupid. For him "economic impact" apparently means "the Dow didn't crash".
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: E. Spaceman on 12 Mar 2011, 21:13
Checking in, still ok.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: calenlass on 12 Mar 2011, 22:47
Thanks, Mili. <3

My housemate's family is in Tokyo, and I haven't seen her because she has been gone for spring break. I hope they are all ok.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: look out! Ninjas! on 13 Mar 2011, 05:32
Well, this is one opportunity for CNBC to demonstrate how worthless it is (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/03/larry-kudlow-devalues-human-life-with-japan-earthquake-freudian-slip.html).
:psyduck: Even on its own terms (money is more important than people), that guy's remark was pretty stupid. For him "economic impact" apparently means "the Dow didn't crash".
I think what we're all thinking is: 'is my stock portfolio ok'?
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: JD on 13 Mar 2011, 13:09
Here's one of those nifty slider comparison images (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/03/13/world/asia/satellite-photos-japan-before-and-after-tsunami.html?ref=asia=)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Rizzo on 13 Mar 2011, 17:22
God... I didn't realise how many houses were completely demolished.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: calenlass on 13 Mar 2011, 17:30
I know what you mean, Riz. I can't spend too long looking at this stuff because I might actually start crying, and I have papers to write.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: David_Dovey on 13 Mar 2011, 19:11
Ditto, except for the "having to write papers" part. I can cry all I want yaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyybloo hoo hoo
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Kugai on 13 Mar 2011, 21:13
It's sorta put things in perspective for us down here in NZ.  While things in Christchurch are bad enough, it's certainly not as devastatingly bad as is is in Japan right now.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: calenlass on 13 Mar 2011, 21:29
I think we should take their example for how to prepare for and handle crises, though. They haven't asked for money, and all the building damage was caused by the tsunami, not the earthquake. I am pretty sure California would not be able to say the same, if they were in the same situation.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: nobo on 14 Mar 2011, 05:11
I'm fairly certain that the building codes in California are reasonably strict with regards to seismic activity.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Mar 2011, 05:43
It took me several seconds to realise you didn't mean door codes there.

The idea of earthquakes seems completely and utterly alien to me. And it isn't just earthquakes but tsunamis, tornados, all the extreme natural disasters that you guys get and Western Europe has managed to avoid through lucky placement. I am very grateful that this is the case, but also I wish they had been shared out a little more evenly so we could all cope with a few strong winds and a bit of roof-shaking instead of these blitzes of destruction. I feel a little bit useless at not being able to do anything to help.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: ackblom12 on 14 Mar 2011, 06:33
Yeah, in all honesty California is pretty well built to handle earthquakes for the most part. The clean up, search and rescue and such I'm not so sure about, especially with their budget being the way it is. FEMA would depend entirely on if they got another dumb fuck in charge.

Natural disasters are kinda terrifying in general and I'm still amazed at how well Japan is handling this. This is right up there with how incredibly efficient China was in dealing with the earthquake they had.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Dliessmgg on 14 Mar 2011, 06:40
god is so good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Mar 2011, 08:41
Words fail me...  what will she pray for next, I wonder?
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 14 Mar 2011, 09:55
I have a sneaking suspicion that, when I get home and watch this, I will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Kugai on 14 Mar 2011, 11:25
god is so good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY&feature=player_embedded)

Four cans short of a six pack
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 Mar 2011, 11:53
god is so good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY&feature=player_embedded)

Is this real? Her delivery seems sarcastic. Maybe it's just because what she's saying is so horrible?
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Dliessmgg on 14 Mar 2011, 11:56
Quote from: her profile

"Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."
--Rev. Joseph Morecraft, Chalcedon Presbyterian Church

"This is our land. This is our world. This is our heritage, and with God's help, we shall reclaim this nation for Jesus Christ. And no power on earth can stop us."
--D. James Kennedy

"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
--Jerry Falwell

"Women have babies and men provide the support. If you don't like the way we're made you've got to take it up with God."
--Phyllis Schlafly

And my favorite quote of all time:

"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
--President George Bush, August 27, 1988

That pretty much sums it up who I am and where I stand on everything.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: JD on 14 Mar 2011, 11:59
Man fuck her and her opinions.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Radical AC on 14 Mar 2011, 12:05
Watching that then checking out her youtube page made me really happy I'm getting an education.

Oh, and hey, I guess it is officially a 9.0 earthquake now.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Papersatan on 14 Mar 2011, 12:33
It made me want to get drunk.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Mar 2011, 12:46
It rather staggers me that anyone can have reached this point. My church would not encourage or indeed allow anyone to spout these views in their name. I had to double-check whether she was a member of the WBC because that seemed the only possible explanation.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Eris on 14 Mar 2011, 14:46
I don't understand how destroying a lot of houses and killing a lot of people shows how god loves people so much.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Mar 2011, 15:06
Killing them will make them become Christian, don't you see?  That way they will see how loving it is to be killed.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Mar 2011, 15:10
I think she has got herself muddled, frankly. The days of sending down natural disasters to demonstrate God's might ended, according to the Bible, about 2000 years ago.

SHE MAKES ME SO ANGRY.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KvP on 14 Mar 2011, 15:46
Everybody's making dicks of themselves over this (http://www.avclub.com/articles/gilbert-gottfrieds-jokes-about-japan-just-cost-him,53153/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=avclub_rss_daily)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Jimor on 14 Mar 2011, 16:07
Pretty much.

Quote
Alec Sulkin, a writer and producer of FAMILY GUY, Tweeted the following:

"If you wanna feel better about the earthquake in Japan, Google 'Pearl Harbor
Death Toll.'"

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/ideas-commentary/family-guy-writer-and-producer-is-an-insensitive-jerk.html
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Mar 2011, 16:23
"If you wanna feel better about the earthquake in Japan, think about how great large disasters are in clearing up any potential ambiguity over who is and isn't a raging cunt"

edit: shit, that's way more than 140 characters
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Inlander on 14 Mar 2011, 16:56
Just twitpic (?) a photo of you giving them all the finger.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: tania on 14 Mar 2011, 17:03
or donate to red cross
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: tania on 14 Mar 2011, 17:04
sorry to be that guy but, you know, just saying
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Ozymandias on 14 Mar 2011, 17:12
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/charity.png)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Tom on 14 Mar 2011, 17:13
god is so good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY&feature=player_embedded)

Is this real? Her delivery seems sarcastic. Maybe it's just because what she's saying is so horrible?

Pretty sure she's a Poe.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Inlander on 14 Mar 2011, 17:16
or donate to red cross

Well obviously it's important to donate money to the Red Cross or whoever and let all these massive arseholes know what massive arseholes they are.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: tania on 14 Mar 2011, 17:36
yeah i mean i don't want to condescendingly guilt trip everybody in this thread, it was more that i just wanted to throw out a reminder that mobilizing and showing your support for relief efforts is pretty much the best thing you can possibly do in retaliation to idiot remarks from ignorant fucking retards who don't know anything about anything at all
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Akima on 14 Mar 2011, 17:42
Quote
Alec Sulkin, a writer and producer of FAMILY GUY, Tweeted the following: "If you wanna feel better about the earthquake in Japan, Google 'Pearl Harbor
Death Toll.'"
And check out his "explanation (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110314/ts_alt_afp/japanquakeuspeopletelevision)":
Quote
Sulkin apologized on Sunday and deleted the message, explaining that he wrote it when he believed the death toll was lower.
"Yesterday death toll = 200. Today = 10,000. I am sorry for my insensitive tweet. It's gone," he wrote.
Oh, I guess that's all right then, Mr Sulkin obviously really understands what was offensive about his remark.

Edit: Added link to Mr. Sulkin's explanation.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KvP on 14 Mar 2011, 17:45
Kinda related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g).
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: öde on 14 Mar 2011, 18:46
Thanks for linking that! I haven't seen it in ages.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Akima on 14 Mar 2011, 18:59
Kinda related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpAMbpQ8J7g).
There are times when I despair of the internet, and then there are times when someone posts a link like this. It took some thought to see how this video was related to my earlier remark, but the penny dropped eventually. Thank you.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: tania on 14 Mar 2011, 20:50
Oh, I guess that's all right then, Mr Sulkin obviously really understands what was offensive about his remark.

this reminded me immediately of a kumail nanjiani bit where he describes visiting a family friend's house and listening to this little girl list all of the disney princesses from her favourite disney movies and when she gets to jasmine from aladdin, she loudly proclaims "i don't like jasmine because she's black", to which her mom, overhearing, immediately yells across the house - "JASMINE'S NOT BLACK".

yes yes very good, you corrected... uh, one of the things wrong with what your racist daughter said. don't worry, you'll figure it out eventually.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Mar 2011, 21:06
Who else had their mind blown when 30 Rock pointed out that there hasn't been a white Disney Princess since Beauty and the Beast
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: tania on 14 Mar 2011, 21:34
okay i definitely just wasted way too much time confirming that on wikipedia
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KvP on 14 Mar 2011, 21:43
Are we talking about actual princess characters or princess branding? There haven't been a hell of a lot of princesses in the last 20 years. They only included Pocahontas because that film didn't even bother to get tribal custom (or anything close to a "Native American culture") right, and do they count Esmerelda from Hunchback? I forget.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: JD on 14 Mar 2011, 21:45
Or Hercules' gal pal
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: tania on 14 Mar 2011, 21:58
i know the answers to both of those questions but i will decline to answer because i am still far too ashamed of my newfound expertise re: the disney princess franchise
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Ozymandias on 14 Mar 2011, 23:32
Megara and Esmeralda are not princesses, no.

The princesses are Snow White, Aurora, Cinderella, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Mulan, Tiana, and now, presumably, Rapunzel- who is white.

Fuck all y'all.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Spluff on 15 Mar 2011, 00:50
I think we should take their example for how to prepare for and handle crises, though. They haven't asked for money, and all the building damage was caused by the tsunami, not the earthquake. I am pretty sure California would not be able to say the same, if they were in the same situation.

Japan is situated in the most earthquake prone area in the entire world, though. The level of preparedness of most countries for this sort of thing varies directly with how likely they are to occur (provided they are in a country that can afford to do something about it - there are a lot of countries in disaster prone areas with terrible infrastructure because of their poor government and economics). California may be less prepared for earthquakes than Japan (because it is less frequent in California than Japan), but they are still well prepared (because they still get a good amount of earthquakes, being situated on a fault line).

There's also the fact that only a few states of the USA are prone to this sort of thing, whereas all of Japan (to some extent) is vulnerable, elevating it to a national issue - and national issues will always be better funded and organized than something that only effects parts of the nation.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Spluff on 15 Mar 2011, 00:53
whoops there was a second page

I now return you to your scheduled disney princess discussion
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: scarred on 15 Mar 2011, 01:33
OK radiation is coming out (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42066534/ns/world_news-asia-pacific/?gt1=43001)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 15 Mar 2011, 02:35
The level of preparedness of most countries for this sort of thing varies directly with how likely they are to occur

Interestingly enough, recent and new nuclear power stations in the UK and the rest of Europe are supposed to be built to the same siesmic standards as those in Japan, even though the highest siesmic activity recorded is in the magnitude of 100th of the scale.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: nobo on 15 Mar 2011, 04:48
Since 9/11, new plants in the US are required to be able to take a direct hit from an airplane without malfunctioning. As you could imagine, this has added quite a bit of cost to building a new reactor. So utilities have the option of shelling out $6-12 Billion for a brand new plant or paying for the licensing and analysis to extend their current plant's life an additional 20 years. There are plenty of 30-40 year old reactors in the US that have been given permission to continue operating for an additional 20 years past what they were designed to operate, and at a higher power output than they were originally intended for.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Johnny C on 15 Mar 2011, 08:32
Are we talking about actual princess characters or princess branding? There haven't been a hell of a lot of princesses in the last 20 years. They only included Pocahontas because that film didn't even bother to get tribal custom (or anything close to a "Native American culture") right, and do they count Esmerelda from Hunchback? I forget.

esmerelda is roma anyways iirc
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Lines on 15 Mar 2011, 10:49
Yeah, she wouldn't be classified as "white". Nor a princess. Meg is also not a princess.

I think the standard few right now are Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Ariel, Belle, and Tiana. Which is annoying, because Jasmine is one of the cooler princesses. And then I don't know what they'll do with Rapunzel. Mulan, Pocahontas, and now Jasmine aren't branded as princesses anymore, or at least not very often. And sometimes Alice gets thrown in there, but I don't know why.

ANYWHO, I think those of you who donated (I haven't yet because I really don't have any money, but will when I do) should go to those blogs and tell people that instead of wasting their energy complaining about world disasters that they should use their time to help out, such as donating money like you did. Not only will you be telling that person that they are an asshole, but you will also be telling people reading the comments that they should donate money, too. It's a win win. Person gets told they're a dickwad and there will possibly be more money for relief!
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Tom on 17 Mar 2011, 19:44
If nuclear boy pooped, it would ruin everybody's day. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sakN2hSVxA&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 17 Mar 2011, 23:25
One of my best friends (and a member of these forums who never posts anymore, Clintaga) is getting a 2-week all-expenses-paid trip to Japan to help build temporary housing for displaced villagers.  A friend of ours who we know from Burning Man (who does quite well for himself as the head of a software company) has decided that the best way to help is to go over there and build yurts and shit, so he recruited my buddy and another burner friend of ours to go with him.

It sounds freaking sweet if you ask me.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: E. Spaceman on 18 Mar 2011, 04:21
There is hardly anything that is freaking sweet about living in Japan right now.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Mar 2011, 04:57
I'm sure we all understood that really, but it was unfortunately phrased.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Nodaisho on 18 Mar 2011, 06:34
The level of preparedness of most countries for this sort of thing varies directly with how likely they are to occur

Interestingly enough, recent and new nuclear power stations in the UK and the rest of Europe are supposed to be built to the same siesmic standards as those in Japan, even though the highest siesmic activity recorded is in the magnitude of 100th of the scale.
And Switzerland is much less likely to have a tidal wave flood the backup generators.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KharBevNor on 18 Mar 2011, 11:33
I expect Joe meant it sounds nice to go and help people, not that it sounds sweet to live in a yurt rather than a house.

Let's be honest and say that Joe probably also thinks that, in certain circumstances, living in a yurt is sweet as all hell.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: Nodaisho on 18 Mar 2011, 12:28
Yes, but only when there's a bunch of other yurts and you're surrounded by body-painted people while on a lot of hallucinogens.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: KvP on 18 Mar 2011, 12:39
All in all I think it'd be sweeter if the impetus for a mission trip to Japan had never arisen.
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: onewheelwizzard on 19 Mar 2011, 15:01
Come on guys.  Pretend you wouldn't think "whoa, fucking sweet" if your friend told you one day "so a friend is paying for me to go with him to aid disaster relief, I'll be there for two weeks."
Title: Re: 8.9 magnitude earthquake hits the coast of Japan, causing 10-meter tsunami waves
Post by: scarred on 19 Mar 2011, 19:32
The opportunity to help people is indeed, fucking sweet. The fact that the people need to be helped, not so much, but that's a completely different issue.