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Title: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: squawk on 12 Mar 2011, 15:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0&feature=player_embedded

or, like, not
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Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Mar 2011, 15:20
They've updated the second part of "A Day in the Life" for the Disney Channel crowd?
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: squawk on 12 Mar 2011, 15:21
i just can't watch the party scenes without feeling a bit sorry for her because she's just wandering around by her lonesome at some really lame fourteen year old party, and she doesn't really seem to be enjoying herself. and then she recounts the days of the week in the most pathetic way possible--"sunday comes afterwards"? that is the most awkward phrasing. it denotes the cyclical nature of life. i think she just hates the conformity of the notion that weekends equal partying she's like "i don't want this weekend to end" but honestly i think she wants it to end, forever, she can't deal with this anymore
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Post by: Papersatan on 12 Mar 2011, 16:21
Them kids have bad seatbelt safety. 
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: nufan on 12 Mar 2011, 16:29
This is a sesame street video that happens to feature 16 year old pricks instead of muppets
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: öde on 12 Mar 2011, 17:24
This is the saddest thing I've seen in a long time.

I mean apart from the earthquake.
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Post by: Elizzybeth on 12 Mar 2011, 17:36
Well, at least the human toll is greater than the pop culture toll.  We can be grateful for that.
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Post by: Jimor on 12 Mar 2011, 18:23
It's like somebody took those "literal music videos" as a real model on how to write lyrics.
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Post by: KvP on 12 Mar 2011, 19:06
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/13242/2011/03/0de4afce89e424a983bd91aae6d3ad56/340x.gif)
 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: johnny5 on 12 Mar 2011, 19:51
is...is this a real song? like would i hear this on the radio?

kind of sounds like the singer of weenus but autotuned
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Tom on 12 Mar 2011, 20:12
I wonder how much her daddy paid for this.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: J-cob9000 on 12 Mar 2011, 21:24
we
we
we so excited
we so excited
we gonna have a ball today.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: J-cob9000 on 12 Mar 2011, 21:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioOEBdIgQ5g&feature=related

apparently, this channel is just an outlet for preteen/teenage girls to out their problems in the form of shitty songs.

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87QCmugOST4&feature=channel_video_title
"another young artist that has more talent, woo, than my little toe on my body got in it."
YEAH
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Papersatan on 12 Mar 2011, 21:44
so it is a company that takes money from rich parents who have kids that want to be famous singers?  Cause the talent there is, um, lacking.  Also "ARK Music Factory"  is not a name that inspires confidence. 
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: JD on 12 Mar 2011, 21:44
I think ark factory has found a way to genetically bio-engineer really terrible teenage "pop stars". Whether it's cost effective or not is beyond me.
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Post by: J-cob9000 on 12 Mar 2011, 21:55
it seems like a pretty stable business idea. there's always parents with too much money and spoiled, untalented children.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: jhocking on 13 Mar 2011, 07:18
Most of the time it's a negative thing when a company takes advantage of people's delusions, but this just seems like a clever way to siphon money out of people who deserve to be taken advantage of. Two concerns though: I really hope the people behind this company aren't a bunch of sleazeballs, and I really hope nobody is blowing their college funds or retirement accounts on this.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Kugai on 13 Mar 2011, 12:01
It all depends on whether and if  the 'Talent' has a future in the real world.

Some might make it with a little improvement.  Some will, thankfully. sink into obscurity.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Barmymoo on 13 Mar 2011, 13:39
Disturbingly, if you go to ARK's main website you have to sign in to view any of the pages, including the "About ARK" page. What.
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Post by: Lupercal on 13 Mar 2011, 13:48
ARK Music Factory: Taking two of every douche-child.

But seriously, thats quite a lot of kids who wear a lot of sequins and feel that people like Justin Bieber are legitimate artists. Fair enough, they're young and impressionable, but damn the parents for supporting this. Use your money to get them into music related classes.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: tania on 13 Mar 2011, 14:02
parents just don't understand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW3PFC86UNI)
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: JD on 13 Mar 2011, 14:07
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li0kxxau8n1qboxvdo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Ikrik on 13 Mar 2011, 14:11
My sister and I, as well as my mother and I, have gotten into serious arguments about whether Justin Bieber is a legitimate artist.  The guy is the essence of how music is manufactured and their argument is that because he's famous and on the tv that he's a legitimate artist. 

Honestly, this girl could be on the TV.  When I first saw this video the first thing that went through my mind was "oh, this is the new starlet? She looks a little boring but her music sounds exactly the same as everyone else." 
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Barmymoo on 13 Mar 2011, 14:20
Her music, sure, but the lyrics are so horrendously inane that I cannot believe that not a single one of those kids (who I assume are her friends who also paid to be in the video or at least were part of the deal and not getting paid for it) didn't say "Hey dude your song kind of sucks, get a new one".
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: jhocking on 13 Mar 2011, 14:27
Do you really think the kind of person who would write that song would surround herself with people who have good taste in music?
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Barmymoo on 13 Mar 2011, 14:28
She didn't write the song, by all accounts it was written for her by ARK Music Factory in return for a large sum of money from her parents.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: jhocking on 13 Mar 2011, 14:33
fine

Do you really think the kind of person who would sing that song would surround herself with people who have good taste in music?
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Johnny C on 13 Mar 2011, 15:44
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li0kxxau8n1qboxvdo1_500.gif)

WOLF GANG WOLF GANG
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: smack that isaiah on 13 Mar 2011, 16:56
Might as well post these, since this is what the internet does to viral videos:
An indie cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdUUMdcUYU)
Friday Slowed Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYh0oRhnDYM&feature=related)
Friday Sped Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cazsLHi9fI&feature=related)
I love in the Slowed Down version the part of "Partying, partying, yeah!" cause cause it sounds like there's a growl over the yeah.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: tania on 13 Mar 2011, 17:59
Quote
Fun, fun, think about fun
You know what it is
I got this, you got this
My friend is by my right, ay
I got this, you got this
Now you know it

what the fuck does this mean
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: tania on 13 Mar 2011, 18:12
Quote from: youtube comment
She poses an interesting moral quandary: whether to kick it in the front seat or, conversely, kick in the back seat.

The front seat symbolising a loss of innocence, being in more direct control of the car (and her life). However she decides to revel in youth rather than take the lonely path of premature aging just to prove a point to her fleeting friends.

The ambiguity of "Friday" is her wrestling with the days following it in the week as if they were all the same. Existential. Poetry.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: squawk on 13 Mar 2011, 19:08
see i like things like those. but then. the song is so vapid that there's not much to go off of unfortunately. like people try but really all they are able to analyze are those same parts everyone else does. OH WELL




okay it's time to stop posting
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jace on 13 Mar 2011, 21:31
My sister and I, as well as my mother and I, have gotten into serious arguments about whether Justin Bieber is a legitimate artist.  The guy is the essence of how music is manufactured and their argument is that because he's famous and on the tv that he's a legitimate artist. 

He is actually a talented singer and musician, but he is pumping out bland, marketable music. So he is a legitimate artist, who sold out
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Kugai on 13 Mar 2011, 21:40
Time to end this thread on a bang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzpOnFgjc5Q
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: David_Dovey on 13 Mar 2011, 22:09
My sister and I, as well as my mother and I, have gotten into serious arguments about whether Justin Bieber is a legitimate artist.  The guy is the essence of how music is manufactured and their argument is that because he's famous and on the tv that he's a legitimate artist. 

He is actually a talented singer and musician, but he is pumping out bland, marketable music. So he is a legitimate artist, who sold out

You can't sell out if you were never "in" in the first place.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Cartilage Head on 14 Mar 2011, 00:07
Sir, I could not pick a scholarly BOOGER out of this balderdash.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jimor on 14 Mar 2011, 01:17
As part of the Hollywood field trip sponsored by my college's film/tv department, we saw a taping of America's Got Talent. One act was a 14-year-old Justin Bieber wannabe (his first name was even Justin), and another was a 13-year-old wannabe Taylor Swift. Another act was a teen rock band that I swear looked like Loverboy from the 80s.

They were decent, and possibly had potential, but there were ominous hints that they were following their parents' dreams more than their own. Even if the passion is their own, I don't think what they were exposed to is helpful. At the end of the day, all of the music acts, adult or teen, at the taping were at BEST, equivalent to the b-list in any decent local scene. I have far more respect for anybody working their way up with their own material at the local open-mics than any packaged artist.

As for ARK, I think I heard that same rapper on several of the tracks. I'll have to see if I can remember the e-mail I used for my crabcorefan youtube account to sign in and find out what the deal is on that site. I used to be part of earlier efforts to track down and expose scam literary agents and publishers who'd take starry-eyed writers for tens of thousands of dollars.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: est on 14 Mar 2011, 02:32
I suspect that the rapper guy is also the producer.  It'd be great if it was just one dude, and he wrote the lyrics to the songs using some sort of automated shitty lyrics generator.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Inlander on 14 Mar 2011, 05:50
I remember in the nineties having a rap bridge in the middle of a really mainstream crappy pop song was pretty much de rigeur. Is that still the case, or is this song just a throwback?

Because that was a really horrible trend. Oh look, here's a classic example! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByNROf8v-Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByNROf8v-Q)
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Mar 2011, 05:58
Yeah, that trend is right up there with religious genocide, bubonic plague and sideways baseball caps in terms of things best kept in the past forever.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jace on 14 Mar 2011, 06:29
My sister and I, as well as my mother and I, have gotten into serious arguments about whether Justin Bieber is a legitimate artist.  The guy is the essence of how music is manufactured and their argument is that because he's famous and on the tv that he's a legitimate artist. 

He is actually a talented singer and musician, but he is pumping out bland, marketable music. So he is a legitimate artist, who sold out

You can't sell out if you were never "in" in the first place.

Okay well if he was just sitting in his room recording Elliot Smith covers, instead of shitty pop, most of the internet (these parts) would be all over how good he is.
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Post by: ackblom12 on 14 Mar 2011, 06:31
All that does for me is make me wonder if GWAR has killed Bieber on stage yet.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Mar 2011, 10:10
My sister and I, as well as my mother and I, have gotten into serious arguments about whether Justin Bieber is a legitimate artist.  The guy is the essence of how music is manufactured and their argument is that because he's famous and on the tv that he's a legitimate artist. 

He is actually a talented singer and musician, but he is pumping out bland, marketable music. So he is a legitimate artist, who sold out

You can't sell out if you were never "in" in the first place.

Okay well if he was just sitting in his room recording Elliot Smith covers, instead of shitty pop, most of the internet (these parts) would be all over how good he is.

Really? Cos it's not like there's any shortage of those dudes already, and I'm not seeing anybody losing their shit over them.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Mar 2011, 10:11
I mean, except for Anna, but that's because Anna is legitimately fucking awesome.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Boro_Bandito on 14 Mar 2011, 11:22
I remember in the nineties having a rap bridge in the middle of a really mainstream crappy pop song was pretty much de rigeur. Is that still the case, or is this song just a throwback?

Because that was a really horrible trend. Oh look, here's a classic example! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByNROf8v-Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByNROf8v-Q)


Shit at least that song attempts to rhyme, also an animated cat! how can you go wrong with that?

Edit: If you wait all the way through that video you're rewarded with a tap-dancing routine.
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Post by: Kugai on 14 Mar 2011, 11:27
I remember in the nineties having a rap bridge in the middle of a really mainstream crappy pop song was pretty much de rigeur. Is that still the case, or is this song just a throwback?

Because that was a really horrible trend. Oh look, here's a classic example! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByNROf8v-Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByNROf8v-Q)


Shit at least that song attempts to rhyme, also an animated cat! how can you go wrong with that?

Edit: If you wait all the way through that video you're rewarded with a tap-dancing routine.

Hmmm   Dancing Cats and Dancing Taps - Must have been made by Disney   :-D
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Johnny C on 14 Mar 2011, 12:51
I mean, except for Anna, but that's because Anna is legitimately fucking awesome.

pomplamoose
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jimor on 14 Mar 2011, 13:36
Going in through a googled interior page let me get to the "About" page without signing up, so here it is.

Quote
ARK Music Factory is a Community, Music/Entertainment Channel and Independent Record Label based in Los Angeles, California.

ARK community is for everyone! - Kids, teens and adults. Ark community is a world where you can meet new people including actors and musicians, and stay in touch with old friends from across the world. You can stay current with the latest gossip from Hollywood, news from around the world, fashion, music, videos and more. ARK online radio features some of the hottest emerging talent from the United States and around the globe! There are also ARK giveways, including music merchandise and souvenirs.
 
Ark Music Factory's Independent Record Label is based in the heart of the entertainment capital of the world, Hollywood, California. Our producers and team of collaborating writers have worked with artists like Cindy Santini (US - Fontana/Universal), Miley Cyrus, Backstreet Boys, Ashley Tisdale, Ibrahim Maiga (Slovakia), Psquare (Africa - 2009 MTV Best Group), Samantha Lombardi (Australia - FourScreen USA), LadyBird (Latvia - Best Pop Artist 'Top of the Pops') etc., and have also produced music for US Emmy winning and four time Emmy nominated Nickelodeon Television (Growing Up Creepie). ARK's main objective is to discover future #1 artists and produce the next outstanding star. Our established relationships within the entertainment industry umbrella keeps us committed to producing solid results for the artists' career, whether it be an independent release/distribution, a major label signing or an original licensing opportunity on Film/TV. Our team at ARK have certainly recognized that raw talent alone is sufficient to get noticed. However, to further advance as a professional within the music industry, it is absolutely essential for an artist to have hit singles and a well executed image - all within that marketable package!

We at ARK make it possible for emerging independent artists from a variety of popular genres to be discovered, defined and delivered, to advance in their chosen career and be successful.Thank you for joining the Ark community and please enjoy what our amazing talent/artists have to offer you, while you interact within the ARK Music Community.

About to actually sign up for an account, brb with details of that.

EDIT: OK, "we" are Kyle Jennings of Bakersfield, CA, 93311, birthdate July 17th, 1995. Anybody who wants the log-in to explore on their own, just mention it in thread or PM me and I'll PM the info to you. What I need from somebody is a likely profile picture that fits the metalcore trend. My idea is to play it pretty straight for now to find out what this is really all about and potentially find out what all this costs. Beyond that, the potential for fun is unlimited. (Awaiting account approval for full access (now approved))

EDIT2: finding my crabcorefan e-mail password prompted me to check my youtube page with my stupid Attack Attack! - I Kissed A Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH8CRBShZck) parody, and for some reason, the number of hits per day has accelerated in the past 4 months from an average of 100/day where it's basically been for the last year and a half, to over 2000 hits per day in the last week, and now has over 220,000 total views.  :psyduck:

EDIT3:
I suspect that the rapper guy is also the producer.  It'd be great if it was just one dude, and he wrote the lyrics to the songs using some sort of automated shitty lyrics generator.

Yup, this was in the photo section under "producers". No names yet that I've seen.
(http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/zz186/JimorB/IMG_1714.jpg)
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Post by: Barmymoo on 14 Mar 2011, 14:13
Oh man I had forgotten about crab core. Crazy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Mar 2011, 14:24
Why, May? Why would you ever forget about crabcore?
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Post by: Jimor on 14 Mar 2011, 14:39
As a last defense of sanity?

OK, found the producer info. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Jey

And somebody is having a bit of fun...  :laugh:

Quote
Since 2010, Clarence Jey and Patrice Wilson have collaborated in creating music for Ark Music Factory and it's artists.

Jey and Wilson also penned and produced the song "Friday", sung by one of Ark Music Factory's artists, Rebecca Black. The music video has become a viral sensation, but only after comedian Daniel Tosh posted it on his blog with the title "Songwriting Is Not For Everyone". The lyrics to the song Friday are commonly misunderstood and thrown off to be an example of bad songwriting. These lyrics are however about the recent democratic uprising in the Middle East. Friday, is actually pronounced Freeday and Mrs Black sings of the day where all people shall be free to live their lives. The main area of contention in the song is the question of whether to 'chill' in the 'front seat' or sit in the 'back seat'. This is a parody of International forces wondering whether to support the uprisings and sit in the back seat or to support the dictators in the 'front seat' in favour of stability. In the end International powers choose to support the rebels and Rebecca chills with her 'friends' in the back. There is no doubt that the international community is looking forward to the day the Middle East will be free, 'Friday' if you will.
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Post by: imagist42 on 14 Mar 2011, 14:46
That's the funniest damn Wikipedia trolling I've read in a while. Mostly because Wikipedia tends to be fast about covering up trolling these days.

Guess no mods give a fuck about Clarence 'Crimes Against Music' Jey.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: KvP on 14 Mar 2011, 15:05
I'm not really sure what the big deal is about ARK music factory. They look to be the latest in a long tradition of song poem manufacturers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song_poem). Back in the day you would see an ad on the back of a magazine for a "songwriting contest", you sent in a certain amount of cash and a lyric sheet, and the company (usually just one guy) would compose a simple tune, record the lyrics over it, press a vinyl single and send it to you. Every once in awhile they would create an LP compilation of songs people would send in.

I looked around for it, and PBS made a documentary about the Song Poem legacy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqn-I5u1MY). It's really interesting!
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: squawk on 14 Mar 2011, 15:27
i think you guys were being super nice about me on the previous page and actually i read tommy's comment at 12:20 PM which was the final minute for me to decide whether to go to my last class of the quarter or not. guess what path i chose

(and thanks david dovey and tommy so much love <3 <3 <3)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Mar 2011, 15:39
Any time, Anna. You can re-pay us by recording some songs and putting them somewhere where I can pay money to listen to them, if you'd like.

===

Just now realised that Friday is actually a heaven sent miracle, in that it's the meme that's finally replacing Druggy Woman-Beater Self-Consciously Spouts Self-Aggrandising Nonsense as the center of the collective Internet hive-mind's limited attention span.

Salut, Rebecca Black! You are not Charlie Sheen!

(http://home.comcast.net/~treehouse2421/Friday1.jpg)

(http://home.comcast.net/~treehouse2421/Friday4.jpg)

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhzhamfLq01qfqhot.jpg)
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Post by: Jimor on 14 Mar 2011, 16:01
Any time, Anna. You can re-pay us by recording some songs and putting them somewhere where I can pay money to listen to them, if you'd like.

EDIT: On the ARK site, that producer guy is listed in the featured artists section as "coming soon". So I wouldn't be surprised that aside from the leeching money from stage mommies, one of the goals was to launch his own career on the backs of these kids.

EDIT2: A compilation of the smooooth rappin' stylings of Patrice Wilson!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7-1BYFBngs#t=2m27s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fivcyoJv_kc#t=2m4s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xHfRUW99aI#t=2m1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioOEBdIgQ5g#t=2m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8WWd7x7CCA#t=2m33s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkp0e0Vj4lI#t=2m10s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMeYz-tFYoM#t=2m48s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsiRwvGQn_M#t=2m13s

Holy fuck, when I started I didn't realize he stuck his own mug in THAT many of the videos. Only 4 posted that didn't have him.  :-o


Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Kugai on 15 Mar 2011, 01:03
He must be a fan of Alfred Hitchcock.

though if Hitchcock saw those, he'd turn Norman Bates loose on Clarence.
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Post by: Elysiana on 15 Mar 2011, 15:44
I'm pretty sure that melody was one of my piano exercises... or a round we sang at summer camp...

Omg I just figured it out, "fun fun fun fun" reminds me of "fire fire fire fire" in the song Scotland's Burning.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: JD on 15 Mar 2011, 21:26
Friday, as performed by Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FISHEO3gsM&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jimor on 16 Mar 2011, 14:07
OK, after looking around at different things about this ARK Music Factory, the number that trickles to the surface the most often for the full star treatment is $20,000, with $5k-7k as the initial buy-in. That's not confirmed, but is more a combination of knowledgeable speculation and some things said by various sockpuppets while trying to defend the company in the comments sections after different online articles and blogs. The defense ranged from "this is brilliant parody!" to "this is how the music biz works, dog".

Other than that, not much going on until ARK makes its move to try to capitalize on the notoriety.
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 Mar 2011, 14:15
Our Summer Ball at University is looking so dreary that people are seriously considering getting Rebecca Black in for the headline spot. The headline as of now is McFly. I mean an institution where the average age of people living and studying there is 21, and they give us a pre-teen girls dream band.

So what does the other $13k go towards?
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Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Mar 2011, 14:22
I've just watched the video again and it kind of makes me nostalgic, but not for my own being-thirteen, for my brother's. He wouldn't have done anything half so tacky but he does/did have the kind of friends who would have been in a music video with him if he'd asked. (I didn't.)



Oh and also, this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xHfRUW99aI&feature=related) is also an ARK auto-tuned song, but I quite like it. I guess Rebecca gets more views because she is so awful.


Jeez. The other videos are much more interesting than Friday. For example, this girl (http://www.youtube.com/user/trizzy66#p/u/1/8oVnBGRIZSQ) wants to be an ordinary pop star. Well, sorry honey, you are not any kind of pop star.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Patrick on 16 Mar 2011, 15:05
Okay well if he was just sitting in his room recording Elliot Smith covers, instead of shitty pop, most of the internet (these parts) would be all over how good he is.

I think I'm doing something wrong here, where's my diehard internet love
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jimor on 16 Mar 2011, 15:33
Just speculating, but the way these things usually go is first there's the initial "signing". That's probably where the $5k number comes from. They might do a demo song for that, or it might be extra. The music video is what will kick the total up to $20,000 pretty easily, particularly since they're doing it all in LA, and while they aren't very imaginative, they do have pretty decent production values. A scam like this relies on always having a next level to go to. A full album is a likely product they sell as well.

The problem they face now is The Producers dilemma. As long as all these kids were mired in obscurity the company could milk their parents for quite a lot with "success" always right around the corner. Now that they have all this attention, people will be looking for the kinds of results I don't think they can deliver. Their out is probably that the contract has a really horrible management clause that gives the producers money even if these kids sign elsewhere.

Which is what they should do if their parents have any clue whatsoever. The psychology of scams like this really put a focus on loyalty, and any wavering or defection is usually met with some pretty nasty attacks as a way of both rallying those who stay with the company, as well as make them afraid to seek out alternatives.
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Post by: Elizzybeth on 16 Mar 2011, 17:25
Am I crazy in thinking that $20,000 is actually a very reasonable figure?  I mean, that's only about what parents pay for a year of art school (or dance school or whatever), and having the experience of being in one of these videos is probably as valuable.  And even if the videos hadn't blown up/gone viral, having a high production value video that you can show people is better than a bunch of headshots.

It's still crazy to me that parents have that kind of money to just drop on this sort of thing, but... if they do, why not?
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Post by: KharBevNor on 16 Mar 2011, 17:31
Erm, getting a BA in Fine Art from a top specialist University has cost me significantly less than $20,000*. Just over half that in fact.



*Though probably not for long. Fuck you, Cleggeron.
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Post by: Elizzybeth on 16 Mar 2011, 17:48
Not saying you can't do it for cheaper.

But here's a list of the "top 14 undergraduate art schools in the United States" (http://www.suite101.com/content/top-visual-art-college-2010-a185185) that reports tuition ranging from $9,000/yr to $37,000/yr. 
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Post by: BeoPuppy on 16 Mar 2011, 17:58
Are you seriously saying that performing in this vid is of equal worth to a career as a year of art school? Because that sounds ... fucked up.
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Post by: Elizzybeth on 16 Mar 2011, 18:18
Certainly not in terms of general artistic knowledge, or ability to teach art, or improvement in skill, etc.

But in terms of getting "noticed" as a teen pop sensation, I'd say this sort of video is more valuable than a year of art school.  And if your kid's goal is to become a pop star (putting aside for a moment the pretty unrealistic nature of that goal), art school might be a waste anyway.

(I don't mean to denigrate art school.  I know a lot of people in art school who are loving it and learning a lot.  But that's not the point here.)
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Post by: Jace on 16 Mar 2011, 18:26
Fine Art

This is why its so cheap
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Post by: squawk on 16 Mar 2011, 18:48
so i've kind of just been worried about this girl and her well-being because i felt bad and didn't want her to be traumatized by the merciless internet but i found her twitter and she seems to be doing okay, and exploiting it for her benefit. which is good! i mean if she ends up having a career it will be terrible, but, good to know that a thirteen year old is handling death threats through twitter maturely
now i don't have to be so sad
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 16 Mar 2011, 19:00
Is that the twitter listed on that company page she's signed to? Cause I'm fairly certain that's controlled by the company.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jimor on 16 Mar 2011, 19:35
Am I crazy in thinking that $20,000 is actually a very reasonable figure?  I mean, that's only about what parents pay for a year of art school (or dance school or whatever), and having the experience of being in one of these videos is probably as valuable.  And even if the videos hadn't blown up/gone viral, having a high production value video that you can show people is better than a bunch of headshots.

It's still crazy to me that parents have that kind of money to just drop on this sort of thing, but... if they do, why not?

This is the fundamental dilemma when talking about the difference between vanity projects and self-publishing so to speak (I'm using that term just because it's familiar and what I've dealt with in the writing field).

The message we finally agreed to in the writing world was that the very basic difference between vanity publishing and self publishing was this: if you pay to have it done, you should control EVERY aspect of that process, particularly the rights when it's completed. That's what self-publishing is all about, and if for some reason you're giving away any aspect of that, it's vanity publishing and you'll likely regret that choice.

That's the business side of the question. The artistic side is much fuzzier.

My personal opinion is that the biggest artistic danger from both methods is short-circuiting natural development. Vanity companies in particular are dangerous here because their job is to feed the delusion that using them is just as good as actually selling the work to a standard company, so they use the same language of being "accepted" and use many of the same contract terms and royalty rates. Except their royalties don't reflect that they're taking absolutely no chance on the work. I know tons of writers who are relieved that it was their 5th or 6th book that was finally accepted by a publisher, because while at the time they may have totally believed in that work, when they look at it with experience and perspective, they realize they still had a LONG way to go artistically.

A successful self-financed venture requires a very very clear idea of what the tradeoffs are against traditional paths. By hiding these tradeoffs from the client, vanity companies leave folks with a huge handicap because the client expects the promotion to come from the company, but either the company skimps because every dollar spent is a dollar less profit, or what promo they do is badly targeted and useless.

Which gets to the other heart of the matter. Vanity companies quickly get a bad reputation for putting out utter shite. I can't tell you how many copies of books from vanity presses we got at the bookstore that we immediately dumped into the recycle bin because there was absolutely no chance that the book had any merit. And we're talking about a 500-store chain where the vanity press would charge the author for promotional copies at maybe 20% off of an already inflated retail price.

We DID however end up stocking several self-published books because the author took the time to target us specifically, typically with books that had a local interest angle, and we usually did decent sales on a lot of these.

So to cut a long rant short, for $20,000 you not only get to be the boss, but you damn well better know what that means if you don't want to end up flushing it all down the toilet.

Now in these days of negative celebrity being an asset these particular stage parents may have just hit the lottery, but usually it just means being ignored, which we can all achieve for much less cash with a webcam and a youtube account.

Is that the twitter listed on that company page she's signed to? Cause I'm fairly certain that's controlled by the company.

Yeah, I've yet to see anything at all that appears to be coming from her own thoughts at this point.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Elizzybeth on 16 Mar 2011, 19:46
Now in these days of negative celebrity being an asset these particular stage parents may have just hit the lottery, but usually it just means being ignored, which we can all achieve for much less cash with a webcam and a youtube account.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: KvP on 17 Mar 2011, 01:52
Somehow this is even better than the original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqq3cgvZSTE&feature=player_embedded#at=20).
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Post by: squawk on 17 Mar 2011, 01:57
can't i just believe what i want to believe
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Post by: nufan on 17 Mar 2011, 04:44
(http://i.imgur.com/7XX12.gif)
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Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Mar 2011, 05:16
Come on guys, they're what, 13? Who could dance better than that at 13?
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Post by: Rizzo on 17 Mar 2011, 06:45
Who had a viral internet video of themselves being a fucking moron at 13? I certainly wish I did but I didn't so instead I reserve the right to ridicule the ridiculous until such a time as it becomes old.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Christophe on 17 Mar 2011, 10:45
(http://cdn2.knowyourmeme.com/i/000/106/034/original/tumblr_li19bvqAs51qarmewo1_500.gif?1300159479)
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: smack that isaiah on 17 Mar 2011, 13:02
An interview with Rebecca Black. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-17/rebecca-black-friday-and-cyberbullying/)  It seems it was $2000 for the video
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Post by: Kugai on 17 Mar 2011, 13:51
*THWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET*

Rebecca Black, Rebecca Black, come on in.  Your fifteen minutes are up.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: De_El on 17 Mar 2011, 16:22
Somehow this is even better than the original (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqq3cgvZSTE&feature=player_embedded#at=20).

If there was more development after the initial loop went on for a while, it could almost be a song by The Field.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Mar 2011, 20:12
Hahaha holy crap yes I was trying to pinpoint what that reminded me of
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Post by: est on 17 Mar 2011, 21:09
Yeah, I was gonna say earlier (thought I did) that I was expecting it to develop into something more than that after a while, and was disappointed when it didn't.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Christophe on 18 Mar 2011, 21:29
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li9ezr2kzU1qc0uzwo1_400.png)
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: october1983 on 19 Mar 2011, 10:00
Friday, as performed by Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FISHEO3gsM&feature=player_embedded)

From the Youtube comments:

"In this song, Dylan refers to the JFK assassination. It was a Friday, and his choice of the seat in the car was critical, because if he sat in front, he would have been protected by bulletproof glass. Its a reflection on how mundane choices can make huge differences. Imagine JFK thinking about the great time he would have in Dallas that weekend (fun fun fun), while he counts down the calendar til Monday, which was when he would have to sign the legistlation that required bussing in schools."
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Post by: LTK on 19 Mar 2011, 16:09
An interview with Rebecca Black. (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-17/rebecca-black-friday-and-cyberbullying/)  It seems it was $2000 for the video

In addition, regarding the question of 'who would write/sing such a thing?' there is this:

Quote
‘Friday’ is about hanging out with friends, having fun. I felt like it was my personality in that song.

Her personality. Well, that clears that up!
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Post by: scarred on 19 Mar 2011, 19:34
Well, to be fair, she's 13. I don't think many of us were super sophisticated at 13.
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Post by: maxusy3k on 19 Mar 2011, 20:12
Friday, as performed by Bob Dylan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FISHEO3gsM&feature=player_embedded)

The Youtube comments on this are the most hilarious thing I've read in a long time.
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Post by: Dliessmgg on 20 Mar 2011, 03:08
Quote
‘Friday’ is about hanging out with friends, having fun. I felt like it was my personality in that song.

Her personality. Well, that clears that up!

Okay, now you're trying to make her look more stupid.

Quote
“The other song was about adult love – I haven’t experienced that yet. ‘Friday’ is about hanging out with friends, having fun. I felt like it was my personality in that song.”
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Inlander on 20 Mar 2011, 04:44
I don't think many of us were super sophisticated at 13.

It was at the age of 13 that I started seriously thinking about how I wanted to live my life and formed the basis of a moral philosophy which I still follow to this day, at the age of 31.

True.
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Post by: Damnable Fiend on 20 Mar 2011, 22:25
Meat Loaf in full on ballad mode version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmbtua21uzM&feature=related)
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Post by: horsefish on 21 Mar 2011, 06:41
Monday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rzatsYr_Q&feature=related)
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Post by: Lupercal on 21 Mar 2011, 08:16
Monday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6rzatsYr_Q&feature=related)

I think what that guy's getting at is the state western society is in where males can only really tell how great something is when it is compared to the greatness of beer or boobs.

Dude's got a point, they are pretty cool.
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Post by: smack that isaiah on 21 Mar 2011, 15:19
So, umm... Some people have made a one-act play based on the backstory of Friday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo3B6TR5bRk)
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Post by: imagist42 on 21 Mar 2011, 15:46
okay that is just one step too far

what the hell, internets!
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Post by: Inlander on 21 Mar 2011, 16:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhWKGYq9gyM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhWKGYq9gyM)
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Post by: KvP on 22 Mar 2011, 21:28
Downloads of the single passed 2 million. This girl may have made a lot of money over all this irrational antipathy.
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Post by: KvP on 22 Mar 2011, 22:31
Turns out she donated it all to Japanese tsunami relief. The kids are alright?
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Post by: KharBevNor on 23 Mar 2011, 03:37
The kids are fools. Shoulda donated 50%, deducted tax, channeled the other 50 to an offshore bank in the Caymans. She'll never be a pop star if she carries on like this.
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Post by: Rizzo on 23 Mar 2011, 05:43
Can this meme please die already?
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Post by: Inlander on 23 Mar 2011, 05:55
It's no band hugs, that's for sure.
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Post by: benji on 23 Mar 2011, 08:00
Turns out she donated it all to Japanese tsunami relief. The kids are alright?

Honestly, it depends. The optomist in me says that her thought process lead her to realize that this is likely a fluke, but whatever happens in her future, her (presumably) upper middle class or wealthier background will probably open a few doors for her and she'll probably be allright, and so it is reasonable to give the money from her good fortune to help those who had an equally flukeish missfortune. The pesimist says that she assumes this is the start of a long, successful music career and so giving away her money now is irellevent next to the millions of dollars she's sure to make.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 23 Mar 2011, 14:54
Or she is just a reasonably good person? I think the former is the closest but also I doubt she thought about it that well. It may even be that she thinks it will further her career (think Bono).
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Post by: squawk on 23 Mar 2011, 15:26
Yeah that's certainly much more admirable than what I'm going to do in the coming week, which is spam people and beg them for money
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Post by: KvP on 23 Mar 2011, 16:48
What would you have done if you had come into a million-ish dollars when you were 13?

I would've bought a nice house in the mountains.
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Post by: Lunchbox on 23 Mar 2011, 16:54
I would have flown to every Hanson concert in the world and bought every single piece of merchandise.
Also bought lots of chocolate. And Colorado shoes in every colour.
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Post by: tania on 23 Mar 2011, 16:58
candy

yeah, i'm serious, all of it
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Post by: Jace on 23 Mar 2011, 17:01
video games probably?
no, I think it would still have been LEGOs at that point.
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Post by: imagist42 on 23 Mar 2011, 17:13
would've been video games for me

also probably the house thing, depends how much waiting time I had between learning about the money and actually receiving it, because you know, thinking in advance about things, it alters results
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Post by: scarred on 23 Mar 2011, 17:18
I probably would have moved back to Chicago. And gotten like, a million Magic: The Gathering cards.
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Post by: Barmymoo on 24 Mar 2011, 05:50
Definitely a house. I still would.
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Post by: WriterofAllWrongs on 24 Mar 2011, 06:47
an entire vat of floam.  shiiiiiiit.

Also, in regards to the video, whose idea was it to use that creepy "sketch" effect on iMovie or whatever sad editing program $2000 dollars will get you?  It looks like dogshit on the holocaust.

EDIT: Another thing I noticed.  If these kids are thirteen, who is driving?   
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Mar 2011, 08:40
A drum kit big enough to live inside
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Post by: LTK on 24 Mar 2011, 08:45
Considering my mindset at the age of 13, if a million dollars had come my way I'd also have given a lot of it to charity. Idealism ranked higher in my mind than life goals back then, maybe it does for her as well.
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Post by: pwhodges on 24 Mar 2011, 10:24
The big assumption here is that the decision was made by her rather than her parents.
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Post by: est on 24 Mar 2011, 13:54
or her agent/marketing advisor
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Post by: Lupercal on 24 Mar 2011, 16:18
Do I even want to venture in to knowing what "Pearl Harbour" stuff has been said?

Well, even if it is artistically horrendous, the millions of haters can now say "Well, actually that was very good of you. Well done".

Seriously, fuck Band Aid. Fuck getting real singers in like Chris Martin, Robbie Williams and Bono, lets just get auto-tuned 13 year olds - people love to hate it.
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Post by: Lupercal on 24 Mar 2011, 17:28
To be fair these days my faith in humanity level is at a pretty much constant low...
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Post by: jhocking on 24 Mar 2011, 19:04
Honestly, I've heard worse crap than that on the radio. People acted like it's the worst music ever, but really it was just average-bad.
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Post by: Dliessmgg on 25 Mar 2011, 04:41
welp

(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6148/1300154451929.jpg)
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Post by: jhocking on 25 Mar 2011, 05:42
Okay so that's one scholarly analysis.
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Post by: benji on 25 Mar 2011, 10:41
Slate looks at how much she's probably actually made so far (http://www.slate.com/id/2289341/)
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Post by: Dliessmgg on 26 Mar 2011, 03:25
I'm just gonna pretend this is the original version. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GaKaGwch0U&feature=autoshare)
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Mar 2011, 04:00
welp



Wow..
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Post by: Lupercal on 26 Mar 2011, 04:38
Slate looks at how much she's probably actually made so far (http://www.slate.com/id/2289341/)

not quite a millionaire but from chasing links through that article onto the others, she's made something near $50,000. Its awesome if all or most of that is going towards the tsunami relief.

Guys, if we pool $2,000, get a 13 year old, we could totally make some dough. Although we'll have to make it clear that we're not a paedophile collective.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Mar 2011, 06:56
Wait, we're not?
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Post by: Inlander on 26 Mar 2011, 07:05
Of course not, we've got a clearly delineated managerial heirarchy!
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Post by: maxusy3k on 26 Mar 2011, 09:27
You're fooling yourself, we're living in a dictatorship.
Title: Re: many scholarly analyses can be picked out of this, i swear
Post by: Jace on 26 Mar 2011, 12:30
You're fooling yourself, we're living in a dicktatorship.

FTFY
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Post by: jhocking on 26 Mar 2011, 19:43
You're fooling yourself, we're living in a dictatorship.

I haven't seen that movie in a decade and I was watching that exact scene on youtube earlier today.
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Post by: Cire27 on 26 Mar 2011, 23:32
I think this is relevant.

(http://www.jephdraw.com/random/dictatorship.png)
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Post by: Johnny C on 27 Mar 2011, 01:51
I don't really care if she donated the money under torture, frankly.

I wouldn't have done it, especially not at her age.

yeah what the fuck guys, the cynical veneer b.s. is kind of inappropriate in the face of something that's probably if it's true going to directly help save lives

Okay so that's one scholarly analysis.

they don't name like a single theorist or philosopher, i call shenanigans
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Post by: jhocking on 27 Mar 2011, 05:48
honestly regardless of what she was doing with the money I think this all got pretty heinous. I mean, the first couple jokes were funny, but it quickly reached a point where I'm wondering what kind of assholes are this intent on picking on a little girl. Especially considering all the things they don't care about, why do people care so much about a teenage girl's dorky youtube video?
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Post by: tania on 27 Mar 2011, 08:25
the internet is also basically the mass mob of 2011, i bet far less of those people would have responded so harshly if it was going to take place in a venue closer to a one on one exchange, or even in one where there'd have to be some identifying markers included. not saying there aren't also a lot of grown adults who are absolutely pathetic low life cowards who for inexplicable reasons derive a lot of joy out of insulting young girls (see: my days working in food service as a teenager) but anonymity and group mentalities will also consistently bring out the worst in people. them's the breaks
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Post by: Jimor on 10 Feb 2020, 22:03
Holy Thread Necro, Batman!

I'd post a new thread, but I think the context contained in the rest of the thread is important to understanding this tweet from Rebecca Black 9 years after the "Friday" phenomenon.

https://twitter.com/MsRebeccaBlack/status/1227026692524273664?s=20

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQdGRVbUUAIjFpr?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQdGRVbUcAEyyEZ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQdGRVeU8AAZ47n?format=jpg&name=small)