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Title: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2011, 20:58
Well this week's off to a disappointing start.  Although at least Shebly/Shelby made an appearance.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 10 Apr 2011, 21:09
Also Sweet-Tits.




YAY SWEET-TITS!!!!!



That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Apr 2011, 21:10
I want more Shame Orb!!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2011, 21:46
Whoever voted for Shebly, thank you for not voting for Shelby :D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: redragon5000 on 10 Apr 2011, 22:20
Wow, the Hawk is alive.  :-o Looks like Yelling Bird didn't finish the job.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 11 Apr 2011, 00:05
Randy probably resurrected the Hawk in order to tell the Hawk about his love of peanut butter.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Apr 2011, 00:11
Can Randy make others eternal?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 11 Apr 2011, 00:35
I don't know, but are you willing to tempt fate to find out?  I'm not.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: emeraldbeacon on 11 Apr 2011, 00:38
Bonercat is immune to Shame Orb's attacks!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: O8h7w on 11 Apr 2011, 00:50
Also Sweet-Tits.




YAY SWEET-TITS!!!!!



That is all.

No, that's not all.


This is Sweet-Tits in color! Have we ever seen that before?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ibrahimdelil on 11 Apr 2011, 00:53
:lol:

>mfw jerkcity reference
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Apr 2011, 01:01
No, that's not all.

This is Sweet-Tits in color! Have we ever seen that before?

Yes. When she and YB set off fireworks for Jeph's birthday.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Manix on 11 Apr 2011, 04:07
I love Shebly.
You know, he pooped yesterday.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 11 Apr 2011, 04:38
No, that's not all.
This is Sweet-Tits in color! Have we ever seen that before?
Yes. When she and YB set off fireworks for Jeph's birthday.
Double-check them 'fireworks' friend!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Apr 2011, 04:58
OK, I will.

Oh, ye of little faith... (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1690)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 11 Apr 2011, 05:07
Whoops, my bad.

Yelling bird is only holiding the bottle rockets there.

I remembered it as much more foul (fowl?)

Sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Black Sword on 11 Apr 2011, 06:25
I suppose Jeph hit the tequila hard this weekend.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Cornflakes on 11 Apr 2011, 06:26
Whoops, my bad.

Yelling bird is only holiding the bottle rockets there.

I remembered it as much more foul (fowl?)

Sorry.

Registered just for this. Yeah you remembered it right, it was the reverse, Sweet-tits was bending over while Yelling Bird was going nuts with the lighter.

Jeff changed it for some odd reason shortly after, so people got to see this one instead. I wonder why?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odin on 11 Apr 2011, 06:46
Registered just for this. Yeah you remembered it right, it was the reverse, Sweet-tits was bending over while Yelling Bird was going nuts with the lighter.

Jeff changed it for some odd reason shortly after, so people got to see this one instead. I wonder why?

Because Jeph knew what would happen on the forums if he left it up there as it was and only he is allowed to enjoy those types of thoughts about his characters.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 11 Apr 2011, 07:15
Also, this way he gets to use the word "cloaca!"

And really, how can you pass that up?!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Apr 2011, 07:34
I still preferred the original.  Especially the scorch-marks on Sweet-tit's panties from the rockets.  It's that attention to realistic detail that makes made it special!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Apr 2011, 14:35
Yelling Bird should learn to quit while he's ahead.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2011, 14:45
No, no, learning an unlikely life lesson was last week's poll.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Apr 2011, 15:44
I love Shebly.
You know, she pooped yesterday.

FYP
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ysth on 11 Apr 2011, 18:28
Fixed Your Pooper?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2011, 19:05
Ok, what the hell?  The spoiler tags are not working again!  They worked the other day, what gives?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 11 Apr 2011, 22:41
Marten's got his murderin' face on. I didn't know Marten HAD a murderin' face.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2011, 22:42
Dude, what?  I still see Yelling Bird.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 11 Apr 2011, 22:43
On the livestream.
justin.tv/jephjacques
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2011, 22:45
Oh.  Odd, I always figured discussing the livestream before the comic was up was considered less than kosher, since it's kind of a spoiler.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 11 Apr 2011, 22:56
Didn't know that ... but tried not to give away details. It is a murderin' face, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Apr 2011, 22:59
How bout next time you put "SPOILER ALERT" if you're going to post stuff about the comic when the comic hasn't updated yet? Or better yet, show a little patience and just wait until it actually does update kthnx.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 11 Apr 2011, 23:04
Hey, sorry ... was going for teaser rather than spoiler. Now I know.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Apr 2011, 23:16
There never was any sort of actual rules about posting about what's on the video feed. Perhaps this would be the time to add it to the "Welcome to the QC Discussion forum! (PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE NEW)" thread?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: bicostp on 11 Apr 2011, 23:30
Well it's safe to assume Hannelore isn't the future Mrs. Clinton Robothand...

Maybe some "do I really get like that" self-realization will come out of this? At least the sword is freshly sharpened.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Apr 2011, 23:30
Bearhat guy has a name, now, it seems.

EDIT: Oh, and I think we now know how APC's came into being.

EDIT 2: Shouldn't there be a "PantPantPantPant" coming from ol' Clint's mouth in panel 3?

EDIT 3: And shouldn't it be "movie time", not "movie sign"?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 11 Apr 2011, 23:32
Well, now I want to see the robot hamsters.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Blackjoker on 11 Apr 2011, 23:34
Bearhat guy has a name, now, it seems.

EDIT: Oh, and I think we now know how APC's came into being.

EDIT 2: Shouldn't there be a "PantPantPantPant" coming from ol' Clint's mouth in panel 3?

EDIT 3: And shouldn't it be "movie time", not "movie sign"?

It is in fact Movie Sign, and I enjoy both Martens MST3K quote and the drawing of the sword, I am quite happy...and I am suddenly imagining Pintsize chasing him while riding a rhoomba...I don't know why.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ysth on 11 Apr 2011, 23:36
(http://nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/hal-hamster.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Apr 2011, 23:36
No, it's definitely....
(http://i.imgur.com/myo13.gif)
MOVIE SIGN!!!!!!

Seriously: Best. Punchline. EVER.

Also I like protective!Marten :3
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Apr 2011, 23:42
This takes credibility away from the hypothesis that Hannelore was yanking everyone's chain when she talked about the space station.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Apr 2011, 23:44
Oh, wait, I see the "PANT PANT" now.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 11 Apr 2011, 23:44
The panting is there, though it be only a pair of pants. Simply hard to see against the door. Yes, "movie sign" is a hot fudge sundae of genius ... and calling Clinton Caligula Bearhat "Tom Servo" is the maraschino cherry on top.
Augmentations, indeed.
Perhaps young Miss E-C is yanking everyone's chain about yanking everyone's chain.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 11 Apr 2011, 23:45
Meh, the sword is unnecessary... That dude is harmless, he's just too much of a fanboy. Nothing to be THAT worried about.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Apr 2011, 23:45
Come on. Clinton's hardly a bearhat guy. There was nothing even remotely sexual in his advance. He just had a ... fanboy moment.

OTOH the prospect of Clinton beginning to show up regularly at CoD during Hanner's shifts does worry me a little bit. Unless he first apologizes and explains himself.

Edit: Oops. I got ninja'd.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: tomart on 11 Apr 2011, 23:46
But i like me some fresh new info about HannerDad & that most interesting QC family!    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 11 Apr 2011, 23:51
Wow.  This makes it exactly three times that we've seen Marten actually get angry and assertive about something.  He tried to defend Faye and Dora from the Vespavenger, he got genuinely mad at Dora for nearly ruining their relationship and her friendship with Faye over the Underpants Argument, and now he's protecting a scared and apparently nigh-hysterical Hanners from a creepy cyborg man.

The lesson, apparently, is that there is one thing that can shock our Manatee on Codeine out of his normal indie nerd fugue, and make him stand up:  don't ever, ever hurt his friends.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2011, 23:54
Ok, what is this Bearhat people keep mentioning?  Did I miss something?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 11 Apr 2011, 23:56
Here you go, Method of Madness. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,19315.msg775105.html#msg775105)  Also your name is now shortened to MoM.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: snubnose on 12 Apr 2011, 00:07
Also Sweet-Tits.




YAY SWEET-TITS!!!!!



That is all.
Yeah, but we cant be unfaithful to Hanners, so I'll pretend I didnt noticed her. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: snubnose on 12 Apr 2011, 00:08
Err... that has already been said ... nothing to see here ! Move along, move along !



Whoops, my bad.

Yelling bird is only holiding the bottle rockets there.

I remembered it as much more foul (fowl?)

Sorry.
It was originally different ... Jeph switched places.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 12 Apr 2011, 00:47
Every single thing about today's comic is awesome.

Every.

Single.

Thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 12 Apr 2011, 00:55
A) I wonder if Jeph occasionally envisions too-enthusiastic fans at conventions as being enveloped in flames.

B) Interesting that the robot hamster seem to be Hanner-dad's crowning achievement as far as RaD (Clinton) is concerned.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 12 Apr 2011, 01:01
I think creating a robot that realistically behaved like a hamster would actually be a challenge!  I mean, programming a computer to think like a human is complicated, but the behavioural patterns of human beings is well-understood and well-studied.  Programming a robot hamster would be at least as difficult, but you'd have to know how a hamster's brain works as intricately as a human brain.  So that's impressive!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Antario on 12 Apr 2011, 01:13
aw i was just beginning to like this storyline, finally some details on hannersdad....and then jeph seems to be cutting it off....with a broadsword

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: J on 12 Apr 2011, 01:20
aw i was just beginning to like this storyline, finally some details on hannersdad....and then jeph seems to be cutting it off....with a broadsword



you really think a hardcore transhumanist like clinton is about to be caught defenseless?

shit is about to get epic.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: nonethousand on 12 Apr 2011, 01:22
hi everybody!

"long-time lurker, first-time writer,... bla bla bla" ...so much for my introduction :evil:

just wanted to point out that John Elliot-Chatham is probably the QC-verse analog of William Bell (Fringe-verse)... isn't he? :psyduck:

PS: wow! my first post and my first psyduck too!! :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Apr 2011, 01:47
I think creating a robot that realistically behaved like a hamster would actually be a challenge!  I mean, programming a computer to think like a human is complicated, but the behavioural patterns of human beings is well-understood and well-studied.  Programming a robot hamster would be at least as difficult, but you'd have to know how a hamster's brain works as intricately as a human brain.  So that's impressive!

It would be, if the internal processes where being emulated, but, as I understand the actual implimentation, they just simulate the behavior, so the wee beastie divides its time prtty much equally between running on a wheel, chewing on a stick, sipping the water bottle, sleeping in one corner of its cage and shitting in the other.

It just repeats those actions at random until the battery dies.

The bad part about them is your kid always makes you replace the battery. At least with a real hamster you can bury it in a shoebox in the flower bed when it dies.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: LeeC on 12 Apr 2011, 01:59
Marten to the rescue!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odal on 12 Apr 2011, 02:06
I thiought Clinton had a metal arm.  It's just a hand though :(
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: snubnose on 12 Apr 2011, 02:25
Uuuuuh ... "just a hand" ?

The hand is about the most complex thing of the human body when it comes to mechanical finesse ... the arm part would be pretty trivial in comparison.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 12 Apr 2011, 02:40
Hanners' instinctive urge to call on Marten for help as well as his to protect her gave off this sort of bf/gf vibe in that last panel...

Cue the passionate hug once Clinton leaves.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 12 Apr 2011, 02:50
I saw it as more of a Big Brother thing.  Hanners isn't saying, "I need my man to protect me from the unwanted advances of this interloper!"  She's saying, "This guy is creeping me the fuck out and I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME."  Marten's just responding to that in a perfectly straightforward manner, not being possessive or anything, just making sure Clinton backs the hell off right now.

I really am pleased to see Marten's reaction, though.  As I've said in other threads in the past, I think we're seeing him becoming more and more assertive and confident over the course of the comic.  Now he's not hesitating to threaten an obsessive cyborg with a broadsword to protect Hannelore.  The man is growing a pair.  :D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odal on 12 Apr 2011, 03:06
Uuuuuh ... "just a hand" ?

The hand is about the most complex thing of the human body when it comes to mechanical finesse ... the arm part would be pretty trivial in comparison.
But it's just a hand.  I use my arm for more things than I use my hand for.

As for the rest, yes, it's nice to see Marten grow some man parts.  A Year-Ago-Marten would've just facepalmed and said, "Goddamn it, Clinton."
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Apr 2011, 03:29
It's easy to show spine when your brandishing a deadly weapon.



Just sayin'.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Afakaz on 12 Apr 2011, 03:49
It's easy to show spine when your brandishing a deadly weapon.



Just sayin'.

Especially someone else's.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2011, 04:35
Looks like Clinton is going to end up with a matching cybernetic hand sooner rather than later.

And who said chivalry is dead?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: El_Flesh on 12 Apr 2011, 05:02
"It's movie sign"??? what the heck does that mean???
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 05:10
Look up Mystery Science Theater 3000 (MST3K) in the Urban Dictionary
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 05:13
Did anyone else bother to check out the content Clinton's rants?

It's all scientifically plausable stuff.

When I first read it, I thought Jeph was making up words. Nope. It's all legit in a very absurd way.

Why would we want to manage how much light is being reflected off our planet?

-----
In the last panel Marten has NOT shown steel. Yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: El_Flesh on 12 Apr 2011, 05:18
looked it up. dont find anything except a def of each separate word.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 05:25
looked it up. dont find anything except a def of each separate word.
Exactly! Each word is real. But Jeph put them together to show how technically advanced Hannerdad is.
"microsatelites to keep Earth's albito stable"
That's $million$ just to make sure that the amout of light being reflected back into space stays the same. How silly is that?

Photovoltaic melanocyts: Solar powered pigment changes in the skin? Hel-lo! We already got that. Suntan anyone?

Our hero, Mr. Jacques has humor on many levels. Three cheers!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Apr 2011, 05:34
Why would we want to manage how much light is being reflected off our planet?

To manage global climate of course.

Not only could you mitigate anthropogenic global climate change, you could control climate on a local basis.

Imagine an 8 month growing season in Siberia and Northern Canada (a very large fraction of Earth's dry land) while maintaining comfortable climates in other parts of the world.

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: El_Flesh on 12 Apr 2011, 05:34
I'm sorry. I still don't understand why he calls him a 'movie sign'.
If it's supposed to reference bizarre technologies that would only appear on 3K,
then it doesn't make sense. It would be counter to the established universe and
thus Marten is self-referencing the strip's 3K universe?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 12 Apr 2011, 05:36
Exactly! Each word is real. But Jeph put them together to show how technically advanced Hannerdad is.
"microsatelites to keep Earth's albito stable"
That's $million$ just to make sure that the amout of light being reflected back into space stays the same. How silly is that?
That could be a way to control the global climate. By controlling the amount of reflected light we might be able to cool off (or warm up) the planet somewhat. The scale of such an operation would be massive, but it may be an engineering solution to global warming.  I am too ignorant about the planet scale physics to judge, whether albedo control alone would make enough of a difference to Earths temperature, or whether it might have some kind of unwanted side effects. May be in QCverse that was the chosen path, and JEC's AI played a key role?

I would prefer to keep politics out of this, so I will not discuss global warming on this forum.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Apr 2011, 05:39
Photovoltaic melanocyts: Solar powered pigment changes in the skin? Hel-lo! We already got that. Suntan anyone?

Except photovoltaic  would use electricity - so it would be an android's solar powered pigment change, making them appear to tan like a person. 

So the man is able to make incredible devices with uses that run from the sublime to the ridiculous! 

Also, this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albedo_0.39). 

Edit:  I imagine MST3K was as popular a show in QCverse as it was here, and so the phrase is perfectly consistant! 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Apr 2011, 05:41
I didn't know either.

Now I do. (http://mst3k.wikia.com/wiki/Movie_sign)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 05:42
Why would we want to manage how much light is being reflected off our planet?
To manage global climate of course.
Not only could you mitigate anthropogenic global climate change, you could control climate on a local basis.
Imagine an 8 month growing season in Siberia and Northern Canada (a very large fraction of Earth's dry land) while maintaining comfortable climates in other parts of the world.
We'd really be buying a new chassis if we tried that!
Besides, it can't work for extending a growing season. The amount of incoming light is limited by the output of The Sun. The maximum temperature is limited by the angle of the light rays striking the ground.
Getting backto Clinton's rant, he said "...keep the earth's albito stable" (emphasis mine). I used the word 'manage'. So the humorist used big words to be funny!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: El_Flesh on 12 Apr 2011, 05:47
Quote
I would prefer to keep politics out of this, so I will not discuss global warming on this forum.

*sigh*

Politics is the response to GW.
Any scientist worth his salt (i.e. not on the take or compromising ethics with self-interest) will prove to you GW is a fact.
We knew it was so in the late 70's; only nobody listened.

It makes me sick to my stomach every time uneducated idiot politicians think they can hem and haw about what science facts are.

There's my 2 cents, sorry to do what Skewbrow didn't want, any responses should be in a new thread...

And i STILL don't get why Marten says "OK movie sign"; although I do understand it's supposed to mean robot hand guy is weird...

OK thanx for the direct link - I got it now!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 05:49
Except photovoltaic  would use electricity - so it would be an android's solar powered pigment change, making them appear to tan like a person.
There's Jeph's sillyness. Why would that be an enhancement to a human?

That last rant has the flavor of Murder, arson and jaywalking. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ArsonMurderAndJaywalking)

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: El_Flesh on 12 Apr 2011, 06:03
Well, bionic legs and reinforced joints I could really really use right now. Gimme a hacksaw.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: kent_eh on 12 Apr 2011, 06:32
And i STILL don't get why Marten says "OK movie sign"; although I do understand it's supposed to mean robot hand guy is weird...
Me too.
Having never actually seen MST3K, since it seems to have only been shown on networks that don't exist in Canada.

I mean, I see in the thoughtfully provided links what the reference is, but not having lived the experience, I don't get it
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Border Reiver on 12 Apr 2011, 06:42
Go Marten! 

Remember as you swing, get you hips behind it to increase power, and aim for the gut.  The neck (with the spine) is actually remarkably difficult to cut through, needing a hit in just the right spot to avoid getting the blade caught and possibly broken, the ribcage is just asking to catch and hold the blade, while the gut is remarkably unprotected and very vulnerable.  The other option is to try and hit the inside of the thigh to cut the femoral artery, or go go for the calf and try to get the tendons.

What?  I man has to have some form of hobby.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 12 Apr 2011, 06:46
Oh, OK ... When the warning lights and alarms went off in the control center of the Satellite O'Love, the characters had to flee the bridge and head for the bad-movie screening room in a panic, to the cry of "We've got Movie Sign!" Hence, "Get the hell out. Now." And,  of the robots, Tom Servo (the name here a reference to Clinton's mech. hand) was the stupid, obnoxious one.
Lately I've been imagining Hannerdad's space station as less like the double-wheel of "2001" (I want that one for myself) and more like the SO'L.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 12 Apr 2011, 06:52

What?  I man has to have some form of hobby.

But? Isn't hockey an option? Or bridge?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 07:03
... and more like the SO'L.

Don't know that design. Which political faction installed it?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 07:07
What?  I man has to have some form of hobby.
But? Isn't hockey an option? Or bridge?

Hockey would only be an option after they get rid of all of that stupid padding.

Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Black Sword on 12 Apr 2011, 07:12
Go Marten! Going for violence first is such a positive developmeny for you, I completely approve! Now all you have to do is...


Go Marten! 

Remember as you swing, get you hips behind it to increase power, and aim for the gut.  The neck (with the spine) is actually remarkably difficult to cut through, needing a hit in just the right spot to avoid getting the blade caught and possibly broken, the ribcage is just asking to catch and hold the blade, while the gut is remarkably unprotected and very vulnerable.  The other option is to try and hit the inside of the thigh to cut the femoral artery, or go go for the calf and try to get the tendons.

What?  I man has to have some form of hobby.

...huh. I didn't expect the neck to be able to catch a good blade. Admittedly, bone is very tough, but it doesn't take that much relative force to snap or break a neck. I would think the force to separate it completely would not be too high.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: rje on 12 Apr 2011, 07:16
I really thought i could find a clip of just the movie sign line, but apparently not
however! http://youtu.be/LuIlJad4Etk (http://youtu.be/LuIlJad4Etk) if you skip to 5:52 you can see the actual movie sign and hear the line
(...okay so this isn't really relevant but this is like one of my absolute favorite MST3Ks EVAR and I'm totally not trying to pull more unawares people into the cult |D;; )

And now I'm picturing Hanners growing up on her dad's space station with some robot friends like that >u>

edit: totally ninja'd
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Apr 2011, 07:42
What?  I man has to have some form of hobby.
But? Isn't hockey an option? Or bridge?

Hockey would only be an option after they get rid of all of that stupid padding.

Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.

I thought that was when you body-checked. 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Border Reiver on 12 Apr 2011, 07:47
...huh. I didn't expect the neck to be able to catch a good blade. Admittedly, bone is very tough, but it doesn't take that much relative force to snap or break a neck. I would think the force to separate it completely would not be too high.

Breaking the neck is easy, severing it is quite another.  Take a look at skeletons of persons who were killed in battle in eras where edged weapons were quite common, and you'll notice that decapitations were quite rare.  Movies make it look easy, but then it also looks better for the folks in the theatre.

As another way of checking this out, look at Tony Robinson's series "Worst Jobs in History"  I think it was the Tudor period episode where he looks at the job of Executioner.  There he uses a headsman's axe to attempt to cut through a pig neck - and even given ideal conditions it took more than one hack.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2011, 07:51
Just to add a little bit of horror to Border Reiver's like fact pile, when she was being executed it took several hacks to decapitate Mary Queens of Scots....and she was alive for every single hack.....
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 12 Apr 2011, 07:56
Hannerdad could be the great grandfather of Pintsize....

I think the satellite thing is a neat little reminder that the world of QC is not real life.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 12 Apr 2011, 08:02
EDIT 2: Shouldn't there be a "PantPantPantPant" coming from ol' Clint's mouth in panel 3?
Well, there defintely are panting noises in panel 4.
[\smartass]


Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.
How about Chess boxing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_boxing)?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 12 Apr 2011, 08:04
I saw it as more of a Big Brother thing.  Hanners isn't saying, "I need my man to protect me from the unwanted advances of this interloper!"  She's saying, "This guy is creeping me the fuck out and I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME."  Marten's just responding to that in a perfectly straightforward manner, not being possessive or anything, just making sure Clinton backs the hell off right now.
Well, Marten and Hanners certainly do not have a brother and sister kind of relationship. In fact, they're about as close as close friends can be. And then there's the fact that she called him pretty clearly by name in a time of desperation...

Valiant effort, but I'm pretty convinced that was a not a platonic moment between the two.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 12 Apr 2011, 08:43
Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.

Shit just got real at the old folks' home.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kalygirl on 12 Apr 2011, 08:50

Well, Marten and Hanners certainly do not have a brother and sister kind of relationship. In fact, they're about as close as close friends can be. And then there's the fact that she called him pretty clearly by name in a time of desperation...

Valiant effort, but I'm pretty convinced that was a not a platonic moment between the two.
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Well, yeah she would call him clearly by name, seeing as he was the only one available to help her in that moment! Unless you think Pintsize would have been useful?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SirDudley on 12 Apr 2011, 08:57
Why do I have the suspicion that Clinton will think the sword is fake, only to find out the hard way it's real?

Nah, Jeph would do that, would he?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 09:04
Why do I have the suspicion that Clinton will think the sword is fake, only to find out the hard way it's real?
Nah, Jeph would do that, would he?
Other than the obligitory booty dance, when has Jeph done the expected thing?

Keeping us guessing and having the characters to the improbable is what this strip is about.

I will cite strips 696 & 697. Improbable story of why they were late and the proof!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 12 Apr 2011, 09:05

Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.

So brutal! However, asking the butler (or a waiter) to bring a set of thumbscrews is quite the accepted response to such atrocities committed at the green baize.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 09:07
Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.

I thought that was when you body-checked. 
Body checking is used against an opponent to prevent losing a slam.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 09:16
Where can I sign up for Full Contact Bridge? Yeah. You're permitted to Gibbs-slap your partner for trumping your ace lead.
So brutal! However, asking the butler (or a waiter) to bring a set of thumbscrews is quite the accepted response to such atrocities committed at the green baize.
Thumbscrews? How medival can you get? A pair of Vice Grip brand pliers is so much easier to handle. Actually, only the referee can order such penalties because they slow the game down.

The best players disable an opponent's cards through subtle use of the flame thrower.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 12 Apr 2011, 09:33
Uuuuuh ... "just a hand" ?

The hand is about the most complex thing of the human body when it comes to mechanical finesse ... the arm part would be pretty trivial in comparison.
But it's just a hand.  I use my arm for more things than I use my hand for.

As for the rest, yes, it's nice to see Marten grow some man parts.  A Year-Ago-Marten would've just facepalmed and said, "Goddamn it, Clinton."
Just a note: no hand = no ability to facepalm.

Also, I'd really love to see how you're typing the above with only your arm. At any rate, for most people the arm is mainly a jointed stick used to move the hand around. Having an arm without a hand is similar to having a construction crane that ends with the boom; it may wave about impressively, and can be used to shove and/or clobber things, but that's about it. That's not to say the hand is much good without the arm, either. Personally, I feel I need both. YMMV

Also, thanks to all for the support of my point: the man who solved (or at least mitigated) global warming and world hunger and got their silly asses properly into space is most impressive, given RhD's (No longer RaD, alas) emphasis, for making a robotic rodent. Clinton, you zany freako, maybe you need beheading so you can finish putting your head where you've already tried to lodge it.

(And yeah, I realize there may be applications—perhaps robot hamsters scurry around the conduits of space stations, making repairs and cleaning before coming back to gnaw cage bars and run on wheels. Still…)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 10:14
How about Hanner's growth.

Actual clear speech instead of incoherent screeming in the last panel
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Apr 2011, 10:18
I wonder if Hanners actually does have unusual abilities due to her dad's tinkering.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: mike837go on 12 Apr 2011, 10:42
I wonder if Hanners actually does have unusual abilities due to her dad's tinkering.
I doubt it. She's joked about that kind of thing many times.

Something about the multiple ear piercings being an antenna cought {Reven or Penelopie or Cosete?} off balance one time.

Anybody got the strip #?

edit: strip #1404 and it was Faye and Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Apr 2011, 11:09
She wouldn't necessarily be aware of it, you know.  She may not know how to access her powers.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Apr 2011, 11:26
There's been speculation that her mental health problems are side effects of the genetic engineering to make her good at Scrabble(tm).
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2011, 12:25
OK, Clinton has definitely gone from Creepy/Cute to Creepy/Potential Stalker in less time than it takes me to make a cup of Coffee

Best to kill him now Marten, he strikes me as the "I'll be back." type



Either that, or Faye walks in and beats the crap outta him.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Border Reiver on 12 Apr 2011, 12:55
OK, Clinton has definitely gone from Creepy/Cute to Creepy/Potential Stalker in less time than it takes me to make a cup of Coffee

Best to kill him now Marten, he strikes me as the "I'll be back." type



Either that, or Faye walks in and beats the crap outta him.

What sort of coffee maker are you using?  Me and the missus would love that kind of brewing speed!  Dude managed to get to "the least agressive person in the strip is about to use the blade" in less time than it takes a sports car to get to 100km/h.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: EcoReck on 12 Apr 2011, 12:56
OK, Clinton has definitely gone from Creepy/Cute to Creepy/Potential Stalker in less time than it takes me to make a cup of Coffee

Best to kill him now Marten, he strikes me as the "I'll be back." type



Either that, or Faye walks in and beats the crap outta him.

Someone has never nerdgasm'd before :(
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 12 Apr 2011, 13:16
I only have two responses to this scenario:

1. Did Jeph just pull a Chekov's Sword?
2. Assertive Marten and his badass bond one-liners may be rare, but he's still my favorite character.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 12 Apr 2011, 13:23
Someone has never nerdgasm'd before :(

You're not supposed to nerdgasm so hard you get it all over the other person.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 12 Apr 2011, 13:31
Someone has never nerdgasm'd before :(

You're not supposed to nerdgasm so hard you get it all over the other person.

Yeah, he really should have turned around and done it into a cloth or something...

I have no idea where this metaphor is going anymore.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 12 Apr 2011, 13:41
I have no idea where this metaphor is going anymore.  :psyduck:

Same place it always was; a strange and scary one.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Apr 2011, 13:43
I have no idea where this metaphor is going anymore.  :psyduck:
'round these parts we call that "metaphorgotten".
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Heliphyneau on 12 Apr 2011, 13:59
And,  of the robots, Tom Servo (the name here a reference to Clinton's mech. hand) was the stupid, obnoxious one.

Nope, actually Tom Servo was the more erudite of the bunch as well as less obnoxious than Crow T. Robot.  If I had to draw bot parallels from MST3K and QC, I'd say that Tom was more like Winslow and Crow was more like Pintsize.  There were 2 other bots (the camera bot and Gypsy), but they weren't generally among the commenting-on-the-horrible-movie folk.  Gypsy was usually portrayed as very dumb, but it was revealed (Spoiler?) that she was actually the smartest of them all, she just usually focused most of her intelligence on running the ship/satellite. 

Picturing Hanners' spacehome as the SoL makes me picture her Dad as Dr. Forrester -- which is funny, but I home their relationship isn't that adversarial.  I prefer to imagine HannerDad as being more like Professor Membrane from Invader Zim.

Other than the having-a-robot-hand aspect of Clinton, Marten may have called him Tom Servo because Tom's chassis was red.   :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 12 Apr 2011, 14:35
hm now that you mention it, Marten and Mike Nelson are kinda similar; playin the straight man to the antics of crazy friends, often at his expense. I like to think Marten's a little smoother than Mike though lol
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 12 Apr 2011, 14:40
I only have two responses to this scenario:

1. Did Jeph just pull a Chekov's Sword?
2. Assertive Marten and his badass bond one-liners may be rare, but he's still my favorite character.
Can't be a Chekov's sword, since it's already being used to threaten Clinton. It was a Chekov object when Faye was fiddling with it a few strips back.

Edit: it just occurred to me that may be exactly what you meant. If so, apologies for the slow uptake.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: FuseUnison on 12 Apr 2011, 14:46
WARNING - I am most likely about to sound stupid....
=====================================================

In Martens last bubble, what does "it's movie sign" mean?  I'm sure I'm probably missing some sort of reference here.  Also, to all of those that use the internet to seek out "flame fodder".....here ya go, my post is all yours.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Nentuaby on 12 Apr 2011, 14:56
WARNING - I am most likely about to sound stupid....
=====================================================

In Martens last bubble, what does "it's movie sign" mean?  I'm sure I'm probably missing some sort of reference here.  Also, to all of those that use the internet to seek out "flame fodder".....here ya go, my post is all yours.

The Tom Servo bit and Movie Sign are references to Mystery Science Theater 3000. It's, er, tough to explain if you don't already know it... But suffice it to say there were robots, who were occasionally forced (with their human companion) to watch terrible movies, which they mocked mercilessly (that last being the point of the whole affair). The lighting of the Movie Sign meant this was about to occur. It involved lots of running around screaming and flailing, for whatever reason. The framing for that show was weird.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Apr 2011, 15:12
Its been explained several times in the thread. Jeph explained it on twitter. Do people read anymore? Are people unable to use google?  :psyduck:

Excuse me, I have to find a wall to hit my head against.

I leave all the money in my wallet, about €4.50, to the Order of the Dickbroom.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2011, 15:26
OK, Clinton has definitely gone from Creepy/Cute to Creepy/Potential Stalker in less time than it takes me to make a cup of Coffee

Best to kill him now Marten, he strikes me as the "I'll be back." type



Either that, or Faye walks in and beats the crap outta him.

What sort of coffee maker are you using?  Me and the missus would love that kind of brewing speed!  Dude managed to get to "the least agressive person in the strip is about to use the blade" in less time than it takes a sports car to get to 100km/h.

Instant I'm afraid, my Coffee Filter Machine bit the dust a wee while back and I haven't gotten round to replacing it yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Apr 2011, 15:51
Its been explained several times in the thread. Jeph explained it on twitter. Do people read anymore? Are people unable to use google?  :psyduck:

Excuse me, I have to find a wall to hit my head against.

I leave all the money in my wallet, about €4.50, to the Order of the Dickbroom.


Thanks to your generous donation, the Turkeys shall be fed...



...for about a day...

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Akima on 12 Apr 2011, 16:00
The lighting of the Movie Sign was the "call to instant action" alert, because if the characters failed to rush to the cinema to watch the bad movies, the mad scientists who kept the hero imprisoned on the space-station would punish them by shutting off the oxygen supply, electric shocks etc. Honestly people, I've never even seen MST3K but I can use Wikipedia...

Moment of the strip, if not moment of the week, is definitely: "He invented the robot hamster!" JE-C is revered by real hamsters everywhere for saving them from lifetimes of cages, running in wheels, neglect by their owners etc. Most entertaining to see Marten about to go Conan (the barbarian, not O'Brien) on Clinton. Typing that, I had a weird flash of Marten wearing a loincloth, and Hanners in that Valkyrie outfit Sandahl Bergman wore at the end of the movie...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: FuseUnison on 12 Apr 2011, 16:04
WARNING - I am most likely about to sound stupid....
=====================================================

In Martens last bubble, what does "it's movie sign" mean?  I'm sure I'm probably missing some sort of reference here.  Also, to all of those that use the internet to seek out "flame fodder".....here ya go, my post is all yours.

The Tom Servo bit and Movie Sign are references to Mystery Science Theater 3000. It's, er, tough to explain if you don't already know it... But suffice it to say there were robots, who were occasionally forced (with their human companion) to watch terrible movies, which they mocked mercilessly (that last being the point of the whole affair). The lighting of the Movie Sign meant this was about to occur. It involved lots of running around screaming and flailing, for whatever reason. The framing for that show was weird.

Thanks.

Its been explained several times in the thread. Jeph explained it on twitter. Do people read anymore? Are people unable to use google?  :psyduck:

Excuse me, I have to find a wall to hit my head against.

The opposite of "thanks"...but, I did preemptively open the door for the people that just can't help themselves when it comes to b!+ching about s#!t.   So....I guess you're welcome.   Glad I gave you something to do, since your days must be so mind-numbingly boring that you feel the need to post aggression as a form of self entertainment.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: slaufer on 12 Apr 2011, 16:06
is it bad news that the only character i recognize is the one from jerkcity?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: J on 12 Apr 2011, 17:21
Except photovoltaic  would use electricity - so it would be an android's solar powered pigment change, making them appear to tan like a person.
There's Jeph's sillyness. Why would that be an enhancement to a human?

it sounds like part of a possible treatment for albinism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albinism), but it could also potentially be used to power other mechanical enhancements.


Go Marten! 

Remember as you swing, get you hips behind it to increase power, and aim for the gut.  The neck (with the spine) is actually remarkably difficult to cut through, needing a hit in just the right spot to avoid getting the blade caught and possibly broken, the ribcage is just asking to catch and hold the blade, while the gut is remarkably unprotected and very vulnerable.  The other option is to try and hit the inside of the thigh to cut the femoral artery, or go go for the calf and try to get the tendons.

What?  I man has to have some form of hobby.

you don't need full decapitation to take a guy out. the jugular and carotid are close enough to the skin that as long as you make contact good and hard with the side of the neck, he's going down. getting you're blade stuck in a vertebrae is only a major problem if you're dealing with more than one guy.




and i'm waiting for clint to take out martin with a rocket punch (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RocketPunch).
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Apr 2011, 23:06
WARNING - I am most likely about to sound stupid....
=====================================================

In Martens last bubble, what does "it's movie sign" mean?  I'm sure I'm probably missing some sort of reference here.  Also, to all of those that use the internet to seek out "flame fodder".....here ya go, my post is all yours.

The Tom Servo bit and Movie Sign are references to Mystery Science Theater 3000. It's, er, tough to explain if you don't already know it... But suffice it to say there were robots, who were occasionally forced (with their human companion) to watch terrible movies, which they mocked mercilessly (that last being the point of the whole affair). The lighting of the Movie Sign meant this was about to occur. It involved lots of running around screaming and flailing, for whatever reason. The framing for that show was weird.

Thanks.

Its been explained several times in the thread. Jeph explained it on twitter. Do people read anymore? Are people unable to use google?  :psyduck:

Excuse me, I have to find a wall to hit my head against.

The opposite of "thanks"...but, I did preemptively open the door for the people that just can't help themselves when it comes to b!+ching about s#!t.   So....I guess you're welcome.   Glad I gave you something to do, since your days must be so mind-numbingly boring that you feel the need to post aggression as a form of self entertainment.

Well, you did   tell everyone that it would be OK to flame you.  And TheEvilDog has a good point - if you use the "new" button, you'll be able to read the posts you missed and actually follow the thread of the conversation!

Or is it follow the conversation of the thread?

Anyway, what's the point of the invitation if you're just going to call a person mean when they take you up on it? 

I mean, that's just... mean. 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Apr 2011, 23:11
(moderator)
Pointless argument that's not making anyone look good and will run afoul of the civility rule if it gets any worse.
(/moderator)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 12 Apr 2011, 23:32
Oh, and I forgot to make the obligatory comment about Marten's development. How far our little prince has come.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Torlek on 12 Apr 2011, 23:42
A brief introduction to MST3K for the culturally deficient. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2760-Mystery-Science-Theater-3000)
And I agree about the Pintsize=Crow, Winslow=Servo comparison. Except I always felt Tom Servo was more purposefully obtuse than naive.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Apr 2011, 23:56
Under NO circumstances is anyone to give Faye laser eyes!!!!!







EVER!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 13 Apr 2011, 00:03
I agree 100% with what BoDJangles wrote... I thinkthe tag "creepy" is overused. C'mon, is he REALLY creepy?

If there's someone that has to be called creepy it should be Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Apr 2011, 00:05
I thought the last panel was referring to President Clinton or Hillary Clinton, not Clinton in the comic.....
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 13 Apr 2011, 00:05
Dammit, I was hoping Marten would chop off Cinton's robot hand in righteous combat, grow a beard and muscles, and go off on a sword and sorcery adventure to become king of his own lands.

Guess we can't all have what we want.  :oops:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 13 Apr 2011, 00:10
Since someone must do it, I shall take on the burden.

How hard would you have lasered him, Hanners?

Answer: so hard his new nickname would be 'Crispy.'

(I'm sure, of course, someone can do better)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 13 Apr 2011, 00:11
Agree with BoDJangles and Mr.Doctor. Nothing says that Clinton's a bad guy. He was just oblivious to Hannelore's distress in his excitement. I have probably done something disturbingly similar in my youth, when my own excitement prevented me from noticing other people's total lack of interest.

Or may be that is the definition of `creepy'?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 13 Apr 2011, 00:16
Clinton's just a hyper little fella. I still like him.

And you'd be hard pressed to find anything Hannelore does genuinely creepy. Just look at her. I'd let her get away with anything short of murder.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Apr 2011, 00:17
How hard would you have lasered him, Hanners?

Answer: So hard even his photovoltaic melanocytes couldn't save him!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: 0kamisama on 13 Apr 2011, 00:26
I seem to recall somebody (Steve?) mentioning that Marten bought that broadsword back in high school many panels ago.

Anyone up for an archeological dig in the archives?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 13 Apr 2011, 00:26
Since someone must do it, I shall take on the burden.

How hard would you have lasered him, Hanners?

(http://i52.tinypic.com/mah15w.png)
I would have lasered him so hard-

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2ntbndv.png)
He wouldn't have woken up till FRYday.

YEEAAAHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 00:35
That was simultaneously wrong and meta...      :police:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 13 Apr 2011, 00:45
Y'know, while I still maintain that this was a platonic moment between Hannelore and Marten and that they have more of a brother-sister relationship, I do wonder how the rest of the cast would view it.  I mean, at the risk of beating a dead plot-horse, if Hanners were to mention at work tomorrow how Clinton creeped her out and Marten basically strongarmed him off by threatening him with a sword and ordering him to "Get the hell out!" of the apartment... well, I just wonder, is all.
Not that I think for a moment Dora would have any suspicion of Hannelore having designs on Marten, or vice-versa, but her reaction to hearing about her ex-boyfriend being all white-knight-y for Hanners might be interesting.  Or tragic, either way.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Akima on 13 Apr 2011, 00:50
I thought the last panel was referring to President Clinton or Hillary Clinton, not Clinton in the comic.....
Why? Hanners has never shown any interest in politics. Nor, I think, has QC generally.

How hard would you have lasered him, Hanners?
So hard he'd have been blasted back in time to when references to Bill and Hillary were still interesting.

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2011, 00:57
Dammit, I was hoping Marten would chop off Cinton's robot hand in righteous combat, grow a beard and muscles, and go off on a sword and sorcery adventure to become king of his own lands.

Guess we can't all have what we want.  :oops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzg



I think Hanners with Cyclops' powers would be an . . . . . .  Interesting  thing.

And dammit, I wanted to see Marten cleaning blood off the Broadsword, 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Blackjoker on 13 Apr 2011, 00:58
Y'know, while I still maintain that this was a platonic moment between Hannelore and Marten and that they have more of a brother-sister relationship, I do wonder how the rest of the cast would view it.  I mean, at the risk of beating a dead plot-horse, if Hanners were to mention at work tomorrow how Clinton creeped her out and Marten basically strongarmed him off by threatening him with a sword and ordering him to "Get the hell out!" of the apartment... well, I just wonder, is all.
Not that I think for a moment Dora would have any suspicion of Hannelore having designs on Marten, or vice-versa, but her reaction to hearing about her ex-boyfriend being all white-knight-y for Hanners might be interesting.  Or tragic, either way.

I could actually see Dora, "Wait..what" Cue a bunch of panels of Faye and Hannelore trying to smooth things over thinking that Dora is going to react to Marten being a white knight negatively, or maybe making a somewhat harsher comment depending and then have Dora, "No, no, I meant more, He has a broadsword? Why did I never see it?"
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Apr 2011, 01:00
OF COURSE Dora has seen Marten's broadsword... Hurr...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 01:21
Did you yell "Oh my God, can I touch you" at a woman you'd just met? Would you continue to yell personal questions at her about 6 inches from her face when she looked terrified (look at Hanners' face in the penultimate panel of 1902)? Seems pretty creepy to me.


Exactly.

Remind me never to go to a con with any of you!




Not that I'd actually ever go to a con, because that would require going outside during the daylight and being around actual people, but still...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: snubnose on 13 Apr 2011, 02:31
Not that I'd actually ever go to a con, because that would require going outside during the daylight and being around actual people, but still...
The horror, the horror. Stop causing me nightmares !
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 13 Apr 2011, 02:38
I could actually see Dora, "Wait..what" Cue a bunch of panels of Faye and Hannelore trying to smooth things over thinking that Dora is going to react to Marten being a white knight negatively, or maybe making a somewhat harsher comment depending and then have Dora, "No, no, I meant more, He has a broadsword? Why did I never see it?"
Well, throwaway joke aside, I really think it would surprise Dora.  While I wouldn't go so far as to say Marten was being out of character here - he has defended his friends in the past, such as during the Vespavenger battles - I would describe it as being unusually assertive of him to, without hesitation, pull out a sword and drive off a creepy guy with threats of physical violence.
After the better part of two thousand strips of being a Manatee of Codeine, look at what we've seen of Marten since he and Dora broke up.  We've seen him display genuine anger and depression, letting down that armour of his.  We've seen him quite cheerfully risk the wrath of Faye for the sake of a joke to defuse awkward shenanigans about her and Angus having sex.  We saw him actually approach a girl (Padma) in a bar, something that has been portrayed as well outside his skill range since literally the beginning of the comic.  Now, we've seen him quite willing to beat the hell out of a guy for making his friend upset.

He's been more of an assertive, confident, and pro-active guy since breaking up with Dora than he has been in the entire course of the comic prior to then.  And Dora has, well, missed it all because it seems like they haven't even seen each other since it happened.  I'd just like to see her reaction to Marten's new-found testicles, is all.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 13 Apr 2011, 02:39

Did you yell "Oh my God, can I touch you" at a woman you'd just met? Would you continue to yell personal questions at her about 6 inches from her face when she looked terrified (look at Hanners' face in the penultimate panel of 1902)? Seems pretty creepy to me.

Not that I recall Read: at least not when sober. IOW - Point conceded.

I dare guess that in his mind Clinton's question really was: "What are your favorite robotic upgrades?" Asked in the same way you might ask a dude you just met at a sports bar: "What's your favorite baseball team?". Simply because so few people share his passion for AI, Clinton was all too eager to assume that Hannelore would be one of them, and then he jumped the gun. Hannelore's gender was probably irrelevant to him, but not necessarily. We may also have witnessed a nerdy attempt to impress a girl with one's expertise.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 13 Apr 2011, 03:35
grow a beard and muscles, and go off on a sword and sorcery adventure to become king of his own lands.

Spontaneous Visigoth transformation?

That'd be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Apr 2011, 03:45
Marten's new-found testicles

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 13 Apr 2011, 04:10
I dare guess that in his mind Clinton's question really was: "What are your favorite robotic upgrades?" Asked in the same way you might ask a dude you just met at a sports bar: "What's your favorite baseball team?". Simply because so few people share his passion for AI, Clinton was all too eager to assume that Hannelore would be one of them, and then he jumped the gun. Hannelore's gender was probably irrelevant to him, but not necessarily. We may also have witnessed a nerdy attempt to impress a girl with one's expertise.

No, he specifically asked what upgrades her father had given her.  And, unless a person goes around flaunting an upgrade (like by not wearing the cover of your hand), that's pretty personal question to ask a stranger! 

It really was just a nerdgasm, but it also had all the earmarks of being creepy.  Nerdgasms can seem creepy, but they're rarely ever meant that way.  If you're having a nerdgasm, you are by definition a nerd on the topic, and wouldn't realize that you're creeping smeone out! 

Example?  A car nerd, seeing a rare or cool car parked on the street, going up and looking all around it, peering into the windows, and then accosting the ownere about its details when they arrive.  That one's more socially acceptable, but it's basically what Clinton was doing - right up until he wanted to know what was under Hanner's hood...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Apr 2011, 05:13
Under NO circumstances is anyone to give Faye laser eyes!!!!!







EVER!!!!!!!

I think that was a given anyway. Nor should she ever be given powers of weather manipulation, the ability to absorb other people's abilities or memories or vast comsic power manifesting as a phoeix.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 13 Apr 2011, 05:19
@Carl-E: The car nerd example is illuminating. Hopefully I will get this eventually.

Yes. Clinton crossed the boundary of Hannelore's personal space in many ways.

A better way of describing the vibes I get from Clinton might be that his interest on Hannelore's eventual upgrades is not related to Hannelore's person, but only on their technical details. For example, the enhancements he listed are possibly something that he has heard rumors about, but are not yet commercially available. It may be unclear, which of the listed gizmos are technically feasible at all. Only the great J.E-C knows, and meeting his daughter, the obvious guinea pig, caused his robotics fugue. The need to know/learn trumped all the other functions in his brain...

... and there was no reset-button. Only Marten and his sword.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Border Reiver on 13 Apr 2011, 05:20
Under NO circumstances is anyone to give Faye laser eyes!!!!!







EVER!!!!!!!

I think that was a given anyway. Nor should she ever be given powers of weather manipulation, the ability to absorb other people's abilities or memories or vast comsic power manifesting as a phoeix.

How about a metallic skeleton with and increased cellular regeneration, or the ability to phase through solid objects?  And what about the costumes?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 05:43
Ok, Faye can have bullet-proof bracelets and Lynda Carter's short shorts, but that's all!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Loki on 13 Apr 2011, 05:48
Under NO circumstances is anyone to give Faye laser eyes!!!!!







EVER!!!!!!!

I think that was a given anyway. Nor should she ever be given powers of weather manipulation, the ability to absorb other people's abilities or memories or vast comsic power manifesting as a phoeix.
Or the ability to make people punch themselves (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PeoplePuppets).
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 13 Apr 2011, 05:48
Ooh, character match-ups with the X-Men?  My inner geek is nergasming.  :D

Faye would probably be Phoenix, and that thought is terrifying.  She would unmake anyone who asked her for a decaf soy latte and cackle madly while she was doing so.  And I guess canonically, that would make Angus the equivalent of Cyclops?  Except that Angus is far too interesting for that comparison, but otherwise okay.
Dora would prolly be Storm, if only to play up the Weather-Witch angle, though she doesn't quite excell in the most heroic area of all (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MostCommonSuperPower) as much as she does.  Marten... I have no idea why, but I keep seeing him as Nightcrawler.  He's certainly a match for him as a deadpan snarker, and he's skinny enough.  Plus even though he's not a great, or even really the best, matchup... Pintsize is definitely Collossus for me.  :P
Steve's a hard-drinkin', sideburns-havin', bad-guy-punchin' badass who will kick your ass with the authority granted by his mysterious government agency.  In other words, he is Wolverine.  And since he hangs around a lot with a petite lady who's always seemingly in the middle of some manner of terrible destruction and chaos, Cosette is definitely Jubilee.

Oh, and Sven is Gambit.  Just 'cause.

Edit:  And terribly, I forgot Hanners!  ::shame::  Well, the best possible power for a lady who doesn't like the touching?  She's Shadowcat.  No question.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Apr 2011, 05:53
And obviously, Hannelore is Rogue, since she is unable to touch people.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 13 Apr 2011, 06:11
Bad Tergon! No biscuit for you!

Some of us have to leave some part of our day to look like we're working and linking those sorts of sites will only impinge on that time.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 13 Apr 2011, 06:32
What?  Just because in a single post I combine webcomics, X-Men, character analysis, TVTropes and boobs, you think I'm trying to waste your time?

Heaven forbid.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 13 Apr 2011, 07:53
No, we think you're tryin' to waste your  time*. 

The rest of us are just along for the ride! 



* and doing a damn fine job of it, I may add! 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 13 Apr 2011, 07:58
Now for fun, let's do the cast of QC as compared with characters from another universe.  Take your pick from Star Wars, Firefly, or the DC Universe!

If time's worth wastin' it's worth wastin' right!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Blyss on 13 Apr 2011, 08:19
I think that Clinton gets the misused version of the word 'creepy' - but, then again, it probably is a little creepy to have someone go all fanboy about one of your parents.

I still consider him harmless, but maybe Hanners just inadvertently started the android/robot revolution, and they will begin assimilating our planet now...

You just never can tell.
 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: FuseUnison on 13 Apr 2011, 08:51
And obviously, Hannelore is Rogue, since she is unable to touch people.

Yes! Lol, that's wonderful.   8-)  That would be awesome to see that depicted in some fan-art. 

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Border Reiver on 13 Apr 2011, 09:00
With the exception of Faye and Marigold, none of the ladies have the Most Common Superpower (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MostCommonSuperPower).  This could be problematic.

For the fans.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 13 Apr 2011, 09:02
They oughtta rename that "Most Common TVTropes Link..."

Except that that's probably the one about how TVTropes will Ruin your Life.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Shteevie on 13 Apr 2011, 10:06
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd83/Shteevie_Travelogue/Lasered.jpg)

Okay, guys. This is your opportunity. Go nuts!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 13 Apr 2011, 11:30
I think that Clinton gets the misused version of the word 'creepy' - but, then again, it probably is a little creepy to have someone go all fanboy about one of your parents.

I still consider him harmless, but maybe Hanners just inadvertently started the android/robot revolution, and they will begin assimilating our planet now...

You just never can tell.
 :psyduck:

I don't see Clinton as creepy so much as I feel he is a crazed weirdo. Yes, there is a difference, I think. Creepy implies, to me, stalking or some other sort of inappropriate sexual connotation paired with personal infringement, whereas crazed weirdo simply means he's stuck on one particular subject, thinks far too much about it, and his brain gets overheated whenever it comes up but there's noting remotely personal about it. Clinton could probably care less about Hanners as a person or a female, I suspect—but as a cult of the EC object, she's 'worthy' of his maniac attention. He's pretty clearly gone off the deep end in his subject area. I know some poeple who are like this about various things—cars, bands, Walt Whitman. (I kid you not; one person I know was a fearful Whitman scholar/fanatic, in that we were all afraid of him. You did not want to get him on the subject, and god help us all if some relative of Whitman's had ever made his/her connection known is his presence.)

Kazukagii, I think you've already won the "how hard"* contest via your sheer willingness to go into that place where all who are decent should not: Punland, the country next to that festering hellhole known as Coupleportmanteausia. I give you half of one of my internets, the other half being reserved because, of course, you went to Punland, you evil wretch. Shame on you.

*If anyone begins reading the thread at this point and wonders what we're talking about, rest assured it's not only what you think, but far, far worse. Save yourself!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: John_Knee on 13 Apr 2011, 11:48
@Carl-E: The car nerd example is illuminating. Hopefully I will get this eventually.

Yes. Clinton crossed the boundary of Hannelore's personal space in many ways.


I don't think Clinton was creepy as people seem to think or a variation of. His reaction towards Hanners when he found out who she was was no worse than the reaction of a 12 year old girl who has won a competition to meet Justin Bleber or whatever his name is. The difference is that Hanners is oversensitive to contact and space due to her OCD. There is no reason why Clinton or anyone else who hasn't met her before to assume that and his reaction would have been alkward to most people with a more normal set of personal characteristics at worse - or simple amusement.

And why is everyone assuming Martin needed to use the sword on him. I imagine that Clinton got the hint, probably apologised to Hanners and left without Martin needing to take any further action.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2011, 13:19
He didn't need to use the sword on him, but if he did, they were saying how he would've done it most effectively.

Oddly enough, typing that made me think of a few years ago when OJ wanted to release his book, that was basically "I didn't kill my wife, but if I had killed my wife, I would've done it like this."
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Apr 2011, 13:25
Those _were_ kind of personal questions, and he was standing within her Inner Defense Zone while he asked them.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 13 Apr 2011, 13:32
Here's a vote for Clinton-got-creepy, but to be fair ... assuming Hanners is in Western Massachusetts, her outer defense perimeter extends to about, oh, Cleveland.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: FieryGenius on 13 Apr 2011, 18:01
I seem to recall somebody (Steve?) mentioning that Marten bought that broadsword back in high school many panels ago.

Anyone up for an archeological dig in the archives?

Went digging with ohnorobot's search engine and found nothing. I also don't recall anything about Steve ever saying that in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Apr 2011, 18:37
Steve bought some during one of his many drunken binges. Though it was more along the line of $500 of fantasy knives on eBay! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=714)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: billydaking on 13 Apr 2011, 18:42
@Carl-E: The car nerd example is illuminating. Hopefully I will get this eventually.

Yes. Clinton crossed the boundary of Hannelore's personal space in many ways.


I don't think Clinton was creepy as people seem to think or a variation of. His reaction towards Hanners when he found out who she was was no worse than the reaction of a 12 year old girl who has won a competition to meet Justin Bleber or whatever his name is. The difference is that Hanners is oversensitive to contact and space due to her OCD. There is no reason why Clinton or anyone else who hasn't met her before to assume that and his reaction would have been alkward to most people with a more normal set of personal characteristics at worse - or simple amusement.

Note that the people who think Clinton was creepy include Jeph.

Anyway, I repeat - look at Hanners' face in the penultimate panel of #1902... the appropriate response to that is "Sorry, I got carried away there", not to advance on her and start yelling personal questions. (Especially when you've just spontaneously burst into flames).

Incidentally - I hadn't noticed before just how angry Marten is in the following panel...

Note...if you are a college-aged adult acting like a 12-year-old reacting to Justin Whatisname, then you are by Webster-Merriam Dictionary of Societal Tropes creepy as hell.

Things are affected by age. Kinda like how if you're 16 on your first date with a 16-year-old is fine, but if you're 35 on your first date with a 16-year-old you're creepy. And probably headed for trouble.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 13 Apr 2011, 18:45
Steve bought some during one of his many drunken binges. Though it was more along the line of $500 of fantasy knives on eBay! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=714)

When I read that for the longest time I thought that strip was set in Antonio's Pizza by the Slice, but I just re-read the commentary and I think I'm wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: galarant on 13 Apr 2011, 21:41
You know, I just love when Jeph's anti-intellectualism and severe technophobia is on full display.

Characters who display lame ass psuedo-intellectual affectation are the heroes of the story.
Characters who display genuine enthusiasm for transhumanism are psychotic fucking weirdos who need to be chased off with the threat of violence.

I get that he's a luddite hipster who probably fetishizes cassette tapes and he's entitled to his own opinion on those matters. But do we really need to be beaten over the head with it?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 22:06
Really?






Really?




 :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ysth on 13 Apr 2011, 22:19
ooooooo, cassette tapes....
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: J on 13 Apr 2011, 22:23
oh, he's just disappointed at the lack of rocket punching





i am too
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: J on 13 Apr 2011, 22:26
also, do people really get nostalgic about cassette tapes? because i only remember them getting all messed up and warped within a few months.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 22:34
I don't think so.

Vinyl maybe, but not cassettes. Casettes were always a pain in the ass. They sounded bad and you had to rewind.


When was the last time you rewound an .mp3?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2011, 22:39
Honestly, I don't miss cassette tapes, but I get a bit nostalgic about them, if only because I grew up with them.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 13 Apr 2011, 22:40
also, do people really get nostalgic about cassette tapes? because i only remember them getting all messed up and warped within a few months.

I had to watch an older film a few days ago on VHS. Ho boy, did that bring me back, jittery video noise and all. The librarian even asked me if I remembered to rewind it. Smarmy bastard even if I didn't remember...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 22:44
Back when you couldn't leave the house if you were expecting an important phone call.

So many of the plotlines of early Seinfeld episodes revolve around pre-cell phone communication it's not even funny.

Can you believe that show started more than twenty years ago?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Apr 2011, 22:45
I thought the last panel was referring to President Clinton or Hillary Clinton, not Clinton in the comic.....
Why? Hanners has never shown any interest in politics. Nor, I think, has QC generally.

Well, it was near bedtime when I saw the strip, so, drowsiness played a factor.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Apr 2011, 22:48
Akronnick: I take it you're thinking of the Vandelay Industries episode?

There is something truly different when you watch a TV show that was made pre-Cell phones and Caller ID.

Of course, there were a few shows where the phone was a key to the plot (or was part of the show's overall "panache"), like Cannon and The Rockford Files.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 13 Apr 2011, 22:55
Back when you couldn't leave the house if you were expecting an important phone call.

Dark times  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2011, 22:56
Can you believe The Simpsons started more than twenty years ago?  And that it's been crappy for more than ten?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 13 Apr 2011, 23:00
Back when you couldn't leave the house if you were expecting an important phone call.

Back when being outside was still accepted as an excuse for not answering the gahdam phone.

And I had a few years of feeling pretty badass because of my cassette collection before leveling up to CDs. I guess all those kids with MP3s who point at me and laugh are just jealous little whippersnappers.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2011, 23:02
Keepvid + Youtube = the new taping songs off the radio.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ysth on 13 Apr 2011, 23:06
I recently watched the entire (single) season of It's Your Move on youtube.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 13 Apr 2011, 23:22
You know, I think that comic 1903 has taught us all something: that we kind of miss big-eyed Hannelore.



Okay, maybe it only taught me that. I think she's fairly cute in the last panel as she contemplates frying Clinton, even though I do think he'd get off a shot with his rocket fist before she manged to optically incinerate him. I could deal with that comic, too; kind of a cross between QC and Shogun Warriors.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2011, 23:22
@ysth So it's a series in both the American and British sense.  How is it?  I've never heard of it until you mentioned it.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Skewbrow on 13 Apr 2011, 23:33
Cassettes. The only mass memory device on the first computer I got my hands on. You could load 2 kilobytes of Basic code off those things in under a minute. Also - portable music! "Daddy, daddy cool..."
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2011, 23:34
This is probably the first forum I've been on that made me feel so young.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: CompSarge on 13 Apr 2011, 23:46
Blushing Hanners! SQUEEEEEE!  :-D Don't worry, Hanners, cancer doesn't stand a chance against you, either.

Also, cue the Marten/Hannelore shippers in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Apr 2011, 23:48
Why was Hanners in the hospital?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: PenguinNinja1408 on 13 Apr 2011, 23:59
I really hope there isn't going to be Marten/Hanners thing. I feel like that would be wrong in some way.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Apr 2011, 00:01
I'm going to guess her mental health problems reached crisis stage more than once.

Quote from: PenguinNinja1408
I really hope there isn't going to be Marten/Hanners thing. I feel like that would be wrong in some way.
(moderator)You're absolutely right. It wouldn't be true to the characters, and the administration of this board shares your hope.(/moderator)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: AsteriskEnye3 on 14 Apr 2011, 00:02
Also, cue the Marten/Hannelore shippers in 3...2...1...

I pretty much came to the forum solely to see how quickly and horrifically they might spring into action. The comic must be BRAND new because there aren't any here yet (posting, anyway). That ought to change by morning.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 14 Apr 2011, 00:05
I'm going to guess her mental health problems reached crisis stage more than once.

That, and I'm guessing she's always been a hypochondriac. Maybe a subconcious way to get her parents' attention for a bit, too (not that I'd blame her if that were the case).
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Apr 2011, 00:08
I'm still thinking it's not shipping as much as it is the brother/sister-like relationship between the two.

Hanners is like the little sister Marten never had. It's kinda cute in a way. And I don't think Marten would even dare go as far as to push Hanner's boundaries by playing the sex card. He already knows that it would end in her being catatonic and beyond repair.

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 14 Apr 2011, 00:08
...Jeph is a bad writer because he hates technology.  Riiiiiiiiiiight.

ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS OF THIS WEBCOMIC IS A ROBOT, YOU STUPID SONOFA...

*twitches The Useless Broom Made Entirely Out Of Dicks*

If Obvious Troll weren't so Obvious... rrrrrrrr...


Anyway it is comic time now.

Adorable Hannelore, if somewhat sad.  Hannerdad is a fun character!  And yes, nanobots are awesome, though their technology should be kept out of Pintsize's reach at all costs lest the world be destroyed in a sex-related Grey Goo Apocalypse.  But her childhood does sound pretty sad... Hanners being so accepting of it is maybe the saddest bit.   :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2011, 00:09
(moderator)You're absolutely right. It wouldn't be true to the characters, and the administration of this board shares your hope.(/moderator)
I'm hardly a shipper (I find it silly at best), but you just may be wrong about it being untrue to the characters, at least with recent development.  I guess only time shall tell.

Also, I'm taking this comic as proof that cancer doesn't exist in the QCverse...so yay Hanners's dad!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 14 Apr 2011, 00:18
I think Hanners' function in the strip is to bring out the best in the other characters.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: snubnose on 14 Apr 2011, 00:40
Nanobots against cancer ? I wonder when they will develop those in reallife.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 14 Apr 2011, 00:48
I think Hanners' function in the strip is to bring out the best in the other characters.

I agree; that's a really interesting point/theory. I wish I weren't too exhausted to talk about it  :psyduck: /bedtime
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cesariojpn on 14 Apr 2011, 00:53
Nanobots against cancer ? I wonder when they will develop those in reallife.

Before or after we kill all the religious fundies?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: daryljfontaine on 14 Apr 2011, 01:05
D'awwww.

Kudos to Marten for cheering Hanners up, 'cause obviously that "small price to pay" still costs in sadness.  Good friends can make up for a lot of problems.

D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 14 Apr 2011, 01:13
Quote from: Marten
You're pretty rad.
Ever the romantic, Marten.

In all seriousness though, neglected Hanners is actually kinda sad, glad to see Marten is trying to cheer her up. I don't really care where Jeph takes this (shipping, brother/sister, stalker/stalkee) I'm just glad to see some more of Marten and Hanners interacting. They have a good dynamic that Jeph really brings out, and I think they steal the comic whenever they share scenes together.

Also blushing Hanners is adorable. Just saying.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Apr 2011, 01:33
...or that said treatment is always %100 effective.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: FuseUnison on 14 Apr 2011, 01:33
I'm definitely trying not to be a "shipper", and I do realize that it would be impossible for Marten and Hanners to form any kind of romantic relationship due to her own idiosyncrasies....but, I could see this recent series of strips resulting in a closer friendship between she and Marten.....just saying.  

It would just be kinda heart warming to see Hanners' character actually have a really close friend as opposed to just "being part of the group".
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 14 Apr 2011, 01:38
Blushing Hanners! SQUEEEEEE!  :-D Don't worry, Hanners, cancer doesn't stand a chance against you, either.

Also, cue the Marten/Hannelore shippers in 3...2...1...
Oh, how little credit you give us~

I think Jeph as a writer knows better than to turn a cheesy moment like this into something more. Marten and Hannelore are very much compatible, but there's no way for them to have a relationship now without it being a huge mistake. They still have a lot more growing to do. But while they do, I'll sit back, watch, and nod in approval. No one in this comic has a better dynamic than Marten and Hannelore.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: brew on 14 Apr 2011, 01:40
Nanobots against cancer ? I wonder when they will develop those in reallife.

http://gizmodo.com/#!5501103/this-is-the-future-of-the-fight-against-cancer (http://gizmodo.com/#!5501103/this-is-the-future-of-the-fight-against-cancer)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odal on 14 Apr 2011, 01:56
It's nice to see character development for Hannelore.  I think a close friendship between Hanners and Marten could go a long ways towards helping both of them whether it goes further than that or not.  Especially since we now learn that apparently there has never been anyone there to fill the role of giving fatherly/genuine/platonic love to her.  Especially when you consider how Hanner's mom is.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ysth on 14 Apr 2011, 01:58
@ysth So it's a series in both the American and British sense.  How is it?  I've never heard of it until you mentioned it.
I like it a lot, but then I have fond memories of it.  The youtube videos are crappy quality, but it isn't available in any other way.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: raoullefere on 14 Apr 2011, 02:25
So both Hannelore's parents were nominees for the "Why'd You Have A Kid If You Were Going to Ignore Her, You Over-Privileged Fuckhead?" award. Not that there isn't stiff competition for that.

Small wonder she has a few issues, I suppose. If I knew my dad dealt in super science and my mother piled up enemies like contestants  pile up boiled shrimp exoskeletons at the Annual "God Hates 'Em, But We Love 'Em" scarfathon, I'd probably be a wee bit nervous, to say the least.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Apr 2011, 04:05
<snip>
No one in this comic has a better dynamic than Marten and Hannelore.

I dunno. Marten and Faye have a dynamic that's pretty much defined the strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Taigan on 14 Apr 2011, 04:27
Hanners does look adorable in that last panel, but I have to call Jeph on one thing.

Is there a reason Marten and Hanners got up and switched places since yesterday's strip?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Apr 2011, 04:32
A wizard did it (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt)




Marten had to put the broadsword away and Hanners had to pee.


I invoke Bellasario's maxim (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitleuvmtqrxe) on this one.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Apr 2011, 04:41
Vinyl maybe, but not cassettes. Casettes were always a pain in the ass. They sounded bad and you had to rewind.

You don't rewind cassettes, you flip them and listen to the other side. 

Same with vinyl. 

VHS or betamax videocassettes needed to be rewound. 

Of course, I grew up with my dad's reel-to-reel as part of the stereo system - he was a '50's technophile.  Tapes of Maria Callas at the Met and the Goon Show off the BBC via shortwave. 

"That's not irrelevant, it's a hippopotamus!"

And all my tape splicing experience made repairing broken cassette tapes pretty easy. 

Oh, the comic?  This is Hanner's version of "the talk".  A sad childhood, and Marten's attempt to make her feel better. 

Of course, she is  pretty rad. 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tormuse on 14 Apr 2011, 06:04
EEEeee!  I love that last pair of panels!  :D  It really captures the dynamic between Hannelore and Marten.  (Er...  That squee sound wasn't meant as a ship or anything like that; I don't want anyone to eye-laser me!)  :|

@Carl-E, I like your sig quote.  I hope you don't mind if I reuse it elsewhere.  :)

EDIT:  Also, looking over the posts about cassette recorders and vinyl makes me feel better about my age.  It's nice to know there are other people, like me, who remember those things.  :)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Blyss on 14 Apr 2011, 06:20
Appropriate response Hanners is just adorable.  And I love that she takes the compliment, and blushes instead of freaking out.  She's just so damned cute.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 14 Apr 2011, 06:24
Awwww, Marten's such a good friend.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Ascension on 14 Apr 2011, 06:31
While I agree with the general sentiment for the moment, and further agree Marten is probably not ever going to be a good choice for it, I think it does Hannelore a disservice to presume she's incapable of a non-platonic relationship. We've seen her reaction to the firemen, yaoi, the 'party favors,' etc... she's not asexual. She's got a lot holding her back, but the assumption it's never going to happen just feels like a misplaced attempt to keep her "innocent."
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odin on 14 Apr 2011, 06:57
While I agree with the general sentiment for the moment, and further agree Marten is probably not ever going to be a good choice for it, I think it does Hannelore a disservice to presume she's incapable of a non-platonic relationship. We've seen her reaction to the firemen, yaoi, the 'party favors,' etc... she's not asexual. She's got a lot holding her back, but the assumption it's never going to happen just feels like a misplaced attempt to keep her "innocent."

Seriously. The assumption that someone with OCD is incapable of enjoying a non-platonic relationship is almost as insulting as this:

(http://i.imgur.com/RoiUJ.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: rambleon on 14 Apr 2011, 07:40
Come on Marty, stop flirting with Hanners  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Cybit on 14 Apr 2011, 08:43
I'll second the Hanners/Marten relationship as being my favorite one in the strip; mostly because Hanners and Marten, for all their neuroses, are both arguably the most genuine and forthright folks in the strip with how they relate to others instead of themselves. 

Heh, part of the reason QC is so good is that everyone sees a little part of themselves in a character.  I am very much like Marten, completely ripe for taking abuse when it comes to myself, but blow up on a hair trigger if someone goes after my friends. 

That said, Marten & Hanners turning into a full-blown friendship seems like a perfect fit for both of them.  Marten is at his best when it comes to making himself better because someone else needs it, and Hanners is the perfect person to do that for.  Innocent, naive, but genuine and doesn't have the "trying to read her" aspect that can frustrate Marten.  WYSIWYG, and that's what Marten needs in his life.  For Hanners, having someone like Marten able to start getting her spooled up and becoming more part of normal society is what she needs; someone she can trust to only have her best interests at heart, and do what it takes to make her happy and feel accepted. 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 14 Apr 2011, 08:44
I... don't seem to recall anyone actually saying that Hannelore could never have a romantic relationship with someone.  It's been made abundantly clear several times in the comic that she does have an interest in romance and even sex.  She even openly acknowledges that she has these feelings on more than one occasion.  Nobody's saying different!  The only thing folks are saying in this thread is that it seems unlikely she's actually going to hook up with Marten, or at least unlikely in the forseeable future.  Given her issues, Marten's recent breakup, and the strong platonic relationship they have like brother and sister, I wholeheartedly agree with that.

I mean it'd be great if Hannelore did eventually find herself a fella and overcame her issues.  Really it would.  I just... can't see it being Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: CompSarge on 14 Apr 2011, 09:45
Looks like Jeph toned down the blushing in the last panel. Disappointing, but understandable. I agree with everyone else who said Marten and Hanners have more of a sibling relationship than a "romantic" one. Marten is able to be there for Hanners, and Hanners makes Marten feel better about himself in the process. Probably one of the most stable friendships possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Apr 2011, 10:02
I'd like to remind everyone how strong and stable friendships can, after several years time, lead to romance and even mawwiage. 

Factor in Hanners coming to grips with her issues with Marten's (and Dr. Corrine's) help, and the way QC time works, and there should be wedding bells - oh, around 2035 or so. 

And Dora may actually get her wish to be a flower girl (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1518)...    :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: galarant on 14 Apr 2011, 10:11
Quote
ONE OF THE MAIN CHARACTERS OF THIS WEBCOMIC IS A ROBOT, YOU STUPID SONOFA...

Who he never really does anything interesting with, and who mainly exists for just comic relief. Quoting Jeph here: "I usually lose interest about three strips in to these AnthroPC-centric storylines." and "Like I said, every time I try to do a robot-centric story, it almost immediately veers back into human-centric stuff."

Also, in response to some other posts on this thread:

-Yes there are people who fetishize cassette tapes. I have met a few of them. They are uniformly annoying.

-Rocket fist woulda been SWEET.

-Marten/Hanners should totally do it.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: CaptainFish on 14 Apr 2011, 11:00
I don't see this as the onset of a full Marten/Hannelore friendship. They've been good friends for a while. They're always visiting each other, and after M broke up with Dora she was his drinking buddy.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: shiroihikari on 14 Apr 2011, 12:13
Soooo...Marten and Hannelore: bros for life?

In all seriousness, I'm not a MartenxHanners shipper, but I love their dynamic.  They just get along so well these days, and it's been made clear time and time again that Hannelore trusts Marten a great deal.  That makes me happy for her, because I think she really needs someone she can trust (who doesn't?).
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Apr 2011, 12:22
-Marten/Hanners should totally do it.
(moderator)This board has been trying very hard to move away from that kind of shipping. Please don't.
Hannelore's current abilities, well, I quote:
Quote from: Jeph
Before any of you weirdos go "omg did they sleep together LOL" I want you to take a deep breath, count to ten, and ask yourself if Hannelore would EVER willingly share a bed with another human being. The answer should be fairly obvious!
(/moderator)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Apr 2011, 13:29

Of course, I grew up with my dad's reel-to-reel as part of the stereo system - he was a '50's technophile.  Tapes of Maria Callas at the Met and the Goon Show off the BBC via shortwave. 

"That's not irrelevant, it's a hippopotamus!"

Flanders & Swann?

Yes, them too  (I grew up with all their records), but that's about ten years later - where do you think they  got it? 

Sellers, Secombe and Milligan (http://www.thegoonshow.net/)  - comedic geniuses, forefathers (all three of 'em) to the likes of Monty Python, The Two Ronnies, and yes, even Flanders & Swann.  Screwball doesn't even begin  to describe it...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 14 Apr 2011, 14:53
Marten and friends have def helped Hanners come a long way towards normalcy, and we even saw when Hannermom came to town, she was strong enough to overcome her OCD and touch the toilet seat to help Marten get 2000 dollars.

I will second that it's never been said Hanners is undateable or desires to be a virgin forever, but it's been defined her condition would preclude any sort of physical contact which is a big part of dating.

I just hope that Hanners doesn't subconciously use Marten to get over some some of her phobias, and Marten ends up getting hurt.

I've been there, and it's like that scene from Lord of the Rings when Frodo tries to give Gandalf the ring.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Apr 2011, 15:13
Hanners, you are way more rad than cancer-fighting nanomachines. You give us laughter, joy, awesomeness and cuteness. Not to mention you speak Cthulu.

Plus, nanomachines are (probably, in the QCverse) a one-time deal. You most definitely are not that kind of person, Ms. Ellicott-Chatham.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Apr 2011, 15:20
Dawwwww


I think it's probably unlikely that Marten/Hanners would happen, but this is Jephs Comic and as we all know, odder things have happened in the QCverse.



It would be nice though - and interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 14 Apr 2011, 15:45
So does that mean the only things guarenteed in life are death, taxes, and Marten/Hanners?
 
 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Apr 2011, 16:07
So does that mean the only things guarenteed in life are death, taxes, and Marten/Hanners?
 
 :-D

And stupid people. Cannot forget the stupid people.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Apr 2011, 17:33
Cannot forget the stupid people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9KEaJooU5g&NR=1).

FYP. 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Apr 2011, 18:40
Hannelore does dream of normalcy and has made progress, but it goes verrrrrrrrry slowwwwwwwwly.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DeathbyChiasmus on 14 Apr 2011, 19:52
Dude. Marten and Hanners are totally moirailin' for each other.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Apr 2011, 20:05
Cannot forget the stupid people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9KEaJooU5g&NR=1).

FYP. 
FYP? For Your Pleasure? :?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Apr 2011, 20:14
(moderator)
Quote from: Forum rules
And finally, shipping and portmanteau names.  You don't do it in real life (I hope!); it fails to meet the criteria I mentioned under "QC" and "Discussion" above; it fails for the reasons given in the quote just given.  Please don't do it!
Take this seriously.
(/moderator)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Apr 2011, 20:22
Cannot forget the stupid people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9KEaJooU5g&NR=1).

FYP. 
FYP? For Your Pleasure? :?
F is for Fixed.
Y is for Your.
P is for Post.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Apr 2011, 20:26
Cannot forget the stupid people (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9KEaJooU5g&NR=1).

FYP. 
FYP? For Your Pleasure? :?
F is for Fixed.
Y is for Your.
P is for Post.
That was my next guess. Huh. Never seen that particular anagram before.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Blackjoker on 14 Apr 2011, 21:33
I'm more partial to an acronym Flying Yak Patrol myself...
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cuzsis on 14 Apr 2011, 21:36
(moderator)
Quote from: Forum rules
And finally, shipping and portmanteau names.  You don't do it in real life (I hope!); it fails to meet the criteria I mentioned under "QC" and "Discussion" above; it fails for the reasons given in the quote just given.  Please don't do it!
Take this seriously.
(/moderator)

 Not being snarky here...I honestly don't understand what the above means? Could you translate please?  :?

/I would prefer not to inadvertently tick someone off..
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2011, 21:58
In all fairness, the answer "do you think Hannelore would ever share her bed?" question is becoming less and less obvious.  The rule is to stick to the general trend of the character, and if the story changes the character, there's no reason not to discuss that in the thread.  Again, the romance in QC is hardly something I think often about, but merely suggesting that Marten and Hannelore might become an item in the future is hardly the crazy shipping it once was.

And cold, when you do the whole "(/moderator)" thing, it shouts "I am pulling rank".  Which is fine once in a while in extreme circumstances, but you and the other mods do it far too often for it to really have any gravitas.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: shiroihikari on 14 Apr 2011, 22:40
And cold, when you do the whole "(/moderator)" thing, it shouts "I am pulling rank".  Which is fine once in a while in extreme circumstances, but you and the other mods do it far too often for it to really have any gravitas.

I doubt you're looking for validation, but I agree with this.  Playing the "moderator" card is good when the situation calls for it, but...

Once again, I don't necessarily think she should be with Marten, but I also don't see Hannelore being a virgin forever and ever, amen.  But that's just me. 
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 14 Apr 2011, 23:12
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I'm hardly a shipper
Quote
I'm definitely trying not to be a "shipper"
Quote
(Er...  That squee sound wasn't meant as a ship or anything like that
Quote
I'm not a MartenxHanners shipper
Quote
This board has been trying very hard to move away from that kind of shipping.

lol

Excuse me if I'm not quick to jump aboard the preferred couple hate train, but to my understanding, Marten and Hannelore are the topic of discussion right now because, well, that's what's going on in the comic. They're getting closer plain-as-day and Jeph really isn't being subtle about it either. If you have the right to assume that Marten and Hannelore will never progress any further in their relationship, I don't see why a few well-reasoned individuals can't speculate all the same the possibility that, hey, they just might become an item somewhere down the line. Both parties can come up with good arguments for the occurrence of either scenario.

After all, let's not forget: the only limitations Jeph's characters have are the ones he writes. Non-shippers have just about as much control over that as shippers do. Yet do I find it interesting QC canon doesn't seem to point in favor of the chaste and innocent Hanners maintaining her disposition forever, as many people are quick to believe. I like cute and spazzy Hanners as much as the next guy, but...the times, they are a-changin'.

Quote
I'm still thinking it's not shipping as much as it is the brother/sister-like relationship between the two.
Just a thought, do any of you guys actually have siblings? I don't recall the last time I've said anything to make my sister blush.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ysth on 14 Apr 2011, 23:30
So, Jeph mentioned Ctrl Alt Del on twitter; what was it that was so offensive? (The author caved and replaced it.)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2011, 23:38
Is this really the place for that?

Anyway, Tim (the guy behind CAD) replaced a moderately offensive joke with a joke that's almost as offensive, but doesn't work nearly as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 15 Apr 2011, 00:00
And cold, when you do the whole "(/moderator)" thing, it shouts "I am pulling rank".  Which is fine once in a while in extreme circumstances, but you and the other mods do it far too often for it to really have any gravitas.
Well it's sort of supposed to shout that, no?  That's exactly what he's doing.  And he's not doing it to be a douche, but because he's been very specifically directed to by Jeph.  Canonical discussion of what's been in the comic is fine, speculation as to what may happen is also fine, and even relationship-type speculation is also okay to an extent.  But Jeph has been extremely, extremely clear on a number of occasions that he does not want his characters slapped together like fanfic pairings, and he intensely loathes people speculating on sexy shenanigans between his characters.  He outright said that he doesn't care if people think it's unreasonable or unfair, because it's one of only a handful of rules he applies to the forums, and he's the one who calls the shots.
Cold is simply doing exactly what his job requires of him and shutting down that kind of discussion.  If you think there's an emotional connection that could lead to romance, fine.  But people who declare that Marten and Hanners should totally have sex, that's not.

Just a thought, do any of you guys actually have siblings? I don't recall the last time I've said anything to make my sister blush.
You've never told your sister she was pretty rad when she was feeling a bit sad?  Because... that is exactly what's happened here.  Any and all subtext aside, Marten saw Hannelore feeling sad and said she was pretty awesome, and because she's shy, she blushed.  That's... not only exactly the sort of thing I'd say to my sister, but exactly the sort of response she'd give.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kazukagii on 15 Apr 2011, 00:20
That's... not only exactly the sort of thing I'd say to my sister, but exactly the sort of response she'd give.

Really? That's nice. If I told my sister she was rad she'd raise up an eyebrow and tell me: "The 90's are over, stop it."

In more comic related news, Sad Hanners is sad, and this comic has slightly depressed me. Still, this has been a fun week, what with all the threats SWIII. Let's do it again next week. Just make Monday's comic a little more happy, eh Jeph? I can keep my spirits despite Hanner's neglect because it's Friday and I'm happy, but if this is still happening Monday I'm just going to get depressed.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: snubnose on 15 Apr 2011, 00:22
Hmmmm.

I cant help it.

I dont like Hanners Dad.



Oh, and I think for the time being Hanners + X is not worth shipping for any X. Unless X agrees to only cuddle her in full body condom.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: tinkerbell on 15 Apr 2011, 00:29
So, Jeph mentioned Ctrl Alt Del on twitter; what was it that was so offensive? (The author caved and replaced it.)

It is true that this really is not the place for such discussion, but if you go to the main page of the website in the news section he has a link to the original. Just so your curiosity is sated.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2011, 01:07
While I agree with the general sentiment for the moment, and further agree Marten is probably not ever going to be a good choice for it, I think it does Hannelore a disservice to presume she's incapable of a non-platonic relationship. We've seen her reaction to the firemen, yaoi, the 'party favors,' etc... she's not asexual. She's got a lot holding her back, but the assumption it's never going to happen just feels like a misplaced attempt to keep her "innocent."

This is in my opinion a good post and the right way to discuss Hannelore's future. Someone may contradict me later but I say, "good job, new person".

It's good because it extrapolates from the strip, which distinguishes it from prurient slashfic.

It's good because it opens ground for reasonable discussion. Hannelore's desires are real. Her inability to do anything about them was her own assessment, at least as of strip 521. Since then she's been able to initiate a hug and tolerate being playfully poked, which is progress. And yes, there is an error to avoid, that of thinking of her as a child. It's an easy mistake to make when she says things like "Make the scary man go away", but she is 22 and in terms of life experience and emotional development is out of childhood and into early adolescence.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 15 Apr 2011, 02:25
Dude. Marten and Hanners are totally moirailin' for each other.

Just sayin'.

You know, previously I was ready to devalidate this statement and point out that they both have pretty full pale quadrants, but honestly? I think you may be onto something. They've always kind of done conciliatory flirting back and forth, for one. Faye has practically 'rail-dumped Marten for Dora at this point, for two. And Marigold has got to be an Ampora-style pain to be in a moirallegiance with; I love her, but honestly, the girl is all about her own FEELINGS and PROBLEMS.

So yeah I will totally ship Marten ♦ Hannelore. All the diamonds, all the fist-b♦nps and bro-hugs. :D

EDIT: ...ffffffff someone (who knows what I'm talking about and is part of the surprisingly small crossover of MSPA fans and QC fans) needs to do a fanart of Marten as Equius and Hanners as Nepeta. IT WORKS, YOU KNOW IT DOES
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odin on 15 Apr 2011, 03:04
So, Jeph mentioned Ctrl Alt Del on twitter; what was it that was so offensive? (The author caved and replaced it.)

The fact that Jeph even reads that sex-offender's webcomic is a pretty damning commentary on Jeph being able to take the high ground in any discussion about the characters in QC. The author of CAD is internet-famous for getting busted trying to get a 14 year-old girl to meet up with him for sex and sending her pictures of his dick; well, that and the ongoing stupidity in pretty much every strip he posts and the callouts about it on thirteen different forums, the parody strips on other webcomics, etc.

At this point CAD seems to only exist to provide fodder for other people to make fun of it.

(moderator)
Quote from: Forum rules
And finally, shipping and portmanteau names.  You don't do it in real life (I hope!); it fails to meet the criteria I mentioned under "QC" and "Discussion" above; it fails for the reasons given in the quote just given.  Please don't do it!
Take this seriously.
(/moderator)

 Not being snarky here...I honestly don't understand what the above means? Could you translate please?  :?

/I would prefer not to inadvertently tick someone off..

It means that Hannelore is Jeph's Virgin Mary character and ever speculating that she would have a romantic or sexual interest in anyone, ever, is against the rules of the forums and blasphemy according to Jeph, the Pope of the Church of QC.

Never mind that even the "real" Virgin Mary had, like, 4 or 5 kids by two different dads.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 15 Apr 2011, 03:12
Jeph doesn't normally read it-- someone just linked it in his drawing stream and he took a gander. Ninja'd by tender but yeah.

(daaaaang Odin calm down I mean I got my problems with Jeph and his policies, but calling a dude a CAD reader is over the line, that is a slur in and of itself)

Having also taken a gander at it, I can say with candor that it is impressive how positively racist Buckley manages to be without using a single inappropriate term! It's like magic, only it's shitty and horrible.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odin on 15 Apr 2011, 03:24
The fact that Jeph even reads that sex-offender's webcomic ought to tell you something about Jeph.

Jeph hearing about the strip through through the grapevine is much more likely than whatever you're trying to imply.

If you think I'm implying anything, English must be your second language.

CAD has been an internet meme for "web comic written by sex offender" at least since late 2009 when I heard about it (that and jokes about how Tim can't draw hair and instead makes it look like everyone has birds on top of their heads). There is even a "Tim Buckley is a fucking moron, and this thread is where we will track his constant fuck ups" thread over on the SomethingAwful sub-forum dedicated to various fuckups you'll find scattered around the internet.

And... checking that thread where they're talking about this now, there is this choice quote about the current incident, for those that are curious:

Quote
Really? REALLY? FOUR VERSIONS?

Wow, four versions. Four versions, and not a single one funny.

He sure did agonize over this one everybody.

I love how he brings up the "WELL I'M JUST NOT OFFENDED BY COMEDY" thing - showing he completely has missed the point. Stand up comics make race related humor, sure, but they do it in a different manner and have some tact. Their jokes are also more clever. What Tim has done is the equivalent of a comic just standing on stage and going "MAN THOSE BLACK PEOPLE SURE DO LOVE FRIED CHICKEN M I RITE?!" and that's it - that's the punchline, he's not leading into anything at all.

It's such a train wreck, this is seriously why the thread exists.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 15 Apr 2011, 03:44
And now people who don't read CAD, know all about CAD and would never read it, have never heard of CAD, hate Tim Buckley and CAD, or read CAD religiously but would never admit it are not only visiting his site, but reading two separate versions of today's comic and talking about it and most likely linking to it all over the internet.

Nothing attracts eyeballs like controversy.

Well played Mr. Buckley, well played.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odin on 15 Apr 2011, 04:03
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im·ply
1. to indicate or suggest without being explicitly stated

The fact that Jeph even reads that sex-offender's webcomic ought to tell you something about Jeph.

This 'ought to tell you [something] about Jeph' = implication [of something] about Jeph. I don't know what you're implying, and don't really care.

But yes, I know you want to talk about CAD and Tim Buckley and SA memes and how Jeph is a Pope of some kind, so I'll ignore those tangents.

The only time CAD is even mentioned on this forum is when Jeph comments on it--either on these forums himself or when someone relays one of his comments about it. Jeph has admitted that he follows CAD (there were a few posts in the Ask Jeph thread where he makes comparisons to how he writes a script and how Buckley does things), so I don't know why you would even argue that he "heard about it through the grapevine" or whatever.

I'll go back and edit the implication out, since it offends you so much.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cherrypi on 15 Apr 2011, 05:32
And now people who don't read CAD, know all about CAD and would never read it, have never heard of CAD, hate Tim Buckley and CAD, or read CAD religiously but would never admit it are not only visiting his site, but reading two separate versions of today's comic and talking about it and most likely linking to it all over the internet.

Nothing attracts eyeballs like controversy.

Well played Mr. Buckley, well played.

In the wise words of Danielle Corsetto: "I don't know the guy personally, but actually no, I don't think he's doing that. I think he's actually THAT uninformed."
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 15 Apr 2011, 05:53
I don't know whether or not he did it on purpose, but people are talking.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Apr 2011, 06:14
So, Jeph mentioned Ctrl Alt Del on twitter; what was it that was so offensive? (The author caved and replaced it.)

I try not to think about that "webcomic". Buckley has awful taste (witness the miscarriage storyline and its horrible ending.)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 15 Apr 2011, 06:23
I'm going to do something radical and actually discuss what this thread is supposed to be here for!

RE: New comic: Poor Hannelore  :-( Sadly I know how she feels.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Odin on 15 Apr 2011, 06:55
I'm going to do something radical and actually discuss what this thread is supposed to be here for!

RE: New comic: Poor Hannelore  :-( Sadly I know how she feels.

There really isn't all that much to discuss, unless you want to get into the subject of how all of the characters were brought up in abusive and/or traumatizing environments and are now having to learn how to cope as adults (and then turning that conversation to Hannelore in today's strip).
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Nick and Marla on 15 Apr 2011, 07:31
I'm going to do something radical and actually discuss what this thread is supposed to be here for!

RE: New comic: Poor Hannelore  :-( Sadly I know how she feels.

There really isn't all that much to discuss, unless you want to get into the subject of how all of the characters were brought up in abusive and/or traumatizing environments and are now having to learn how to cope as adults (and then turning that conversation to Hannelore in today's strip).
Works for me. Sad stuff.

Bawwwwww.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Border Reiver on 15 Apr 2011, 08:48
Concur.

Call more often H!  Otherwise when you do call Dad'll assume the worst (and barring the serious injury or death of a child there is little worse).  On the other hand it gets him on the phone.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2011, 09:43
What's this sex-offender Buckley talk?  CAD's one of the strips I'll check soon after midnight (along with LICD and xkcd), and I never realized how hated CAD was here.  It's a fairly solid webcomic, and come on, how can you hate the Space Archaeologist arcs?  It's like an incompetent Indiana Jones...in SPACE!

And Tergon, you say that "speculation as to what may happen is also fine, and even relationship-type speculation is also okay to an extent."  Well, for the most part, (aside from a few obvious jokes), that's all that was occurring.  Not so much "MANNERS SHOULD TOTALLY DO IT" as much as "well, who knows, they might find something in each other at this rate."  And speculation isn't shipping, shipping implies that you have a desired outcome.  Saying something might or might not happen is different, and as far as I can tell, not against the rules.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 15 Apr 2011, 09:53
Oh, no doubt, MoM.  But even the obvious jokes around here... well, we all remember the Perfect Shitstorm over the breakup arc.  Obvious trolls may be obvious to most: people who spam that their ship is the only way to go, or people who post for the sole purpose of saying that QC is badly written and has shitty characters.  They're a dime a dozen, but some still poke their heads up once in a while, and occasionally they manage to wrangle a reaction.  I believe - and I hope he'll correct me if I'm wrong - that Cold was just nipping that potential in the bud before it started to grow.
Please don't think I'm mini-modding or anything like that.  I've learned my lesson on being an idiot in the past!  It was just that you seemed surprised at Cold's response and, well, I thought I would point out that there is a basis for his reaction.  Saying what the forum rules are isn't my job, I was just pointing out that the standard is there and that it is Cold's place to do exactly what he did.  I think we can all agree that nobody wants another Shitstorm thread, and it's just a sensitive topic at the moment with the breakup arc so fresh in our minds.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2011, 10:07
I have no issue with Cold doing his job.  My point was if he uses the "(/moderator)" card too often, it will end being meaningless.  I'm not saying he shouldn't hold people back here and there like he's doing, but he should refrain from pulling rank unless the situation really calls for it, if only so people will see that tag and know that shit just got real.  If it's on nearly every thread page, then it's almost second nature to ignore it.

And as for the breakup arc, I'll preface that by saying I wasn't on the forum yet.  In fact, according to my profile, I don't think I even have an account yet (joined in December, started posting in February or March).  But wham-arcs like that are extremely rare (I pretty much just count 500 and 1800, and hilariously enough, one ends up with Dora and Marten starting to date, and the other starts with Dora and Marten ending their relationship).  Anyway, the point is I didn't see how crazy the forum got, but since massive shifts like that happen so rarely, maybe it's not a horrible thing that the forum reacts when they do occur.  And we need not assume that every speculation about a possible romance will lead to a repeat of the Dorapocalypse.

(I think that made sense)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 15 Apr 2011, 13:40
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You've never told your sister she was pretty rad when she was feeling a bit sad?  Because... that is exactly what's happened here.  Any and all subtext aside, Marten saw Hannelore feeling sad and said she was pretty awesome, and because she's shy, she blushed.  That's... not only exactly the sort of thing I'd say to my sister, but exactly the sort of response she'd give.
Yeah, then my sister blushes because I'm a cute guy and she's totally attracted- Whoops, TMI.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2011, 13:52

 Not being snarky here...I honestly don't understand what the above means? Could you translate please?  :?

/I would prefer not to inadvertently tick someone off..

You know how some Harry Potter fans think a sexual relationship between Harry and Draco is a cool thing to talk about?

Doing the equivalent with Jeph's characters, postulating a hookup that doesn't make any sense for the characters or the story, massively squicks the people who, unlike me, actually run the forum.

If it helps, think of it as a local culture thing, that you'd respect in the same way as you'd try to speak the local language in a foreign country.

A relationship that does make sense for the characters or that's been foreshadowed in the strip, for example Dale and Marigold, is fair game to talk about. By contrast, Jeph himself has abruptly dismissed talk of romance between Marten and Hannelore.

This information about how the forum is supposed to work is written down, though distributed across several threads. Some of it is IMO underemphasized. An unofficial list of things to avoid is at http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Questionable_Content_forum#Things_that_tick_off_Jeph. Take another look through the stickied threads here and in the I'm New subforum, and please be welcome!
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2011, 14:07
Forgive me if I've misread your post, but how is speculating about a Dale/Marigold romance any better than doing the same with Marten and Hanners?  They both can be backed up within the comic itself, and can be viewed as a natural progression of all characters involved. (Well, except Dale, maybe)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2011, 14:08
I have no issue with Cold doing his job.  My point was if he uses the "(/moderator)" card too often, it will end being meaningless.  I'm not saying he shouldn't hold people back here and there like he's doing, but he should refrain from pulling rank unless the situation really calls for it, if only so people will see that tag and know that shit just got real.  If it's on nearly every thread page, then it's almost second nature to ignore it.
People should feel free to PM me with feedback and suggestions about moderation, especially suggestions that have been proven to work in similar forums. The question of how and whether to distinguish between talking as a moderator and talking as a regular participant hasn't had a definitive resolution. The question of how to stop bad things before they start without intervening too frequently is another one I keep chewing over.

Quote
since massive shifts like that happen so rarely, maybe it's not a horrible thing that the forum reacts when they do occur.  And we need not assume that every speculation about a possible romance will lead to a repeat of the Dorapocalypse.

(I think that made sense)
There's reaction, and then there's posting a copy of one of Jeph's cartoons with the speech bubble edited to call another discussion participant a "faggit"[sic]. Yes, it really got that bad.

Quote from: Method of Madness
Forgive me if I've misread your post, but how is speculating about a Dale/Marigold romance any better than doing the same with Marten and Hanners?  They both can be backed up within the comic itself, and can be viewed as a natural progression of all characters involved. (Well, except Dale, maybe)
Because one of the two has been vetoed by Jeph on Twitter and Tumblr.

At one point, Jeph threated to "burn this place to the fucking ground" over mentions of a Hannelore pairing where, unlike this case, the other character wanted it. We are his guests.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: sitnspin on 15 Apr 2011, 14:11
Wow, that almost made me cry. I grew up with parents who were always too busy for me, I was raised mostly by people who worked for them. It really does get lonely. Then they died when I was still in my late teens. I never really did get to know them. Unfortunately, they didn't invent anything cool and life-saving. No wonder Hanners is as screwed up as she is. Poor girl. If she was more comfortable with hugs, she could really use one.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2011, 14:12
@cold Yeesh.  I guess I had to be there.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2011, 14:25
If people here strike you as oversensitive, it's because the pain is recent.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2011, 14:36
Five months ago is recent?

Anyway, I'll drop the issue, since it doesn't affect me either way.  I just wanted to know the history behind the madness.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Apr 2011, 14:43
Awwww that's sad

I get the idea that Hanners does actually like her dad, but he's one of those workaholics that just doesn't make time for his foamily.



He really needs to be brought down to earth, both figuratively and literally.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 15 Apr 2011, 16:10
Yeah, then my sister blushes because I'm a cute guy and she's totally attracted- Whoops, TMI.
Hey now!  You watch your mouth, I ain't no stinkin' Tasmanian!  ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Apr 2011, 20:00
@cold Yeesh.  I guess I had to be there.

Just be glad you weren't. It got that ugly.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SirDudley on 15 Apr 2011, 21:02
*sees Hanners outfit for Friday*

HHNNNNNNGGG.


So, have we actually seen HannerDad yet?
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2011, 21:14
No, he's never actually appeared. We can only wonder what he's like.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2011, 21:43
He's sort of appeared, we saw his space station from Earth.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Apr 2011, 23:15
That's not an appearance, that's a drive-by fly-by. 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just a little more histoire, for those who are relatively new;

The shit storm happened not just because of the breakup, but the breakup coincided with a repair of the signup engine on the forum, which had been broken for over a year.  Not only was there an emotional arc going on, but there was literally a flood of pent-up new forumites, some who'd been lurking for ages, who had a lot to say and no practice saying it. 

Until that time, all moderators on the forum pretty much ignored the comic discussion part of the forum (including Jeph, who hates to see his work dissected, as do most artists).  They instead lived in the other sections, the ones about music, art and other pastimes in the lower part of the big list of topics.  They got flooded with a horde of new people hitting the "report to moderator" button over insults both real and imagined, screaming about each other.  The old ones stepped in with a fairly heavy hand, locking and even trashing the worst of the threads (the WCDT that week was about 40 pages of diatribes, and will never be seen again). 

Several of us suggested that new, local mods should be added, taken from the ranks of the comic discussion forumites, to try and keep things civil and running in a way that would not require the interventions of the ancients (for those who think that term is trite, note that the moderators before pwhodges and IsItColdInHere all date back to the founding of the boards). 

So yeah, the way things go in here is sometimes a matter of testing the waters, and the mods are really trying to feel their way through this.  At times it leads to a bit of the "Oooh, don't go there!" attitude, but generally it works. 

Well, it's better than it was. 

And will continue to improve with age! 

[/memorylane]
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Nick and Marla on 16 Apr 2011, 01:04
You know how some Harry Potter fans think a sexual relationship between Harry and Draco is a cool thing to talk about?
I honestly was not aware that people like that actually existed.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 16 Apr 2011, 01:35
Existed? You probably know one.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Apr 2011, 03:52
You know how some Harry Potter fans think a sexual relationship between Harry and Draco is a cool thing to talk about?
I honestly was not aware that people like that actually existed.
Oh, wow.
You may wish to brace yourself because, frankly, Harry with Draco is merely the tip of the creepy, creepy iceberg. Pretty sure every combination of any two (or three) even vaguely prominent characters in the novels has been ficced at least once, even ones that ought to be physically impossible and/or are independently squicky in their own right (beyond being perversions of established characters).

And that's just HP fanfics.
It's virtually guaranteed that every prominent fiction will 'acquire' a tenuous cometary tail of slashficcers. regardless of genre, content, or style.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mustakyy on 16 Apr 2011, 06:01
D'awwwww.

*giggle*


hilarious... funny..  sad..  such a great scale of emotions in one week..


When lookin at this week's comics, while some of em seem to have a bit sadder undertone (neglected Hanners is quite sad  :-(, I think Raoulleferes comment on her parents was quite accurate.. a bit harsh, but accurate), the dynamic between Hanners and Marten has been quite nice to watch. They seem to bring the best out of each other.


One thing that has been totally confirmed (though it wasn't that suprising news to anyone, now was it?) is that our lil' indie protagonists berserk button (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BerserkButton) seems to be messing with his friends. Mess with him, meh, he might respond (or not), but mess with his friends and there's gonna be hell to pay..
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: shiroihikari on 16 Apr 2011, 10:14
Quote
It's virtually guaranteed that every prominent fiction will 'acquire' a tenuous cometary tail of slashficcers. regardless of genre, content, or style.

I realized this a long time ago, but it still makes me sad.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Incitatus on 16 Apr 2011, 14:05
Re: Sweet-Tits in colour -- I always thought that it was Sweet-Tits in the background of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445).  But that may just be me.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Blood-Tree on 16 Apr 2011, 14:06
Anyway... the current strip smells like foreshadowing of a HannerDad landing to me, which could be interesting as we don't really know that much about him. As far as I can recall current facts are limited to:


Have I left anything out?

I would be willing to bet that he has cybernetic limbs. I don't recall seeing any in the comic before Clinton showed up, so they must be fairly rare, but if the dude invented robot hamsters then presumably he must be robotastic?

I'm basically suggesting he's Einstein with a robot mustache.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Apr 2011, 14:17
There's also "can't stand ex-wife". I think you have it well covered.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: bunnyThor on 16 Apr 2011, 14:29
You know how some Harry Potter fans think a sexual relationship between Harry and Draco is a cool thing to talk about?
I honestly was not aware that people like that actually existed.
"Slash" pairings are as old as fandom. All it takes is a fan liking two characters, concluding that means those characters should totally bang, and then the urge to either write about it or draw pictures.

Just go to Google Image Search, type in the name of any two characters and "rule 34", and I guarantee you'll get an education into all sorts of people you never knew existed.  :|
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: bicostp on 16 Apr 2011, 15:49
No, I don't think pairing Slash up with any of the cast would work out too well. :|

: P
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: sluthy on 16 Apr 2011, 20:56
Anyway... the current strip smells like foreshadowing of a HannerDad landing to me...

Makes sense, since of the main characters'* parents, he's the only one so far not to make an appearance, and I suspect he would be a quite interesting character. The only issue I see is how he would be introduced; given how apparently busy he is, a simple "just thought I'd pop in and see my daughter on the way through" wouldn't work, and I can't imagine Northampton being a central hub of his terrestrial works**.

*Can I safely assume that as it currently stands Marten, Faye, Dora and Hannelore are the four central characters? Steve's older than most of them but he only occasionally appears anymore. Angus and Marigold are almost there.

**Just going off what I've seen in QC - I have no idea what Northampton is like, not being American or anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Apr 2011, 21:17
(moderator)
Quote from: Forum rules
And finally, shipping and portmanteau names.  You don't do it in real life (I hope!); it fails to meet the criteria I mentioned under "QC" and "Discussion" above; it fails for the reasons given in the quote just given.  Please don't do it!
Take this seriously.
(/moderator)

 Not being snarky here...I honestly don't understand what the above means? Could you translate please?  :?

Read the two locked sticky threads at the top of this (sub-)forum.  The rules are laid out there (and the main forum rules linked to) with extensive discussion and elucidation, including a couple of comments from Jeph himself.

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In response to another comment, the moderators do not operate under direction from Jeph; they are chosen by the other administrators and moderators (who include Jeph, of course) to help keep the forums running within the rules and according to their collective sensibilities.

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In case anyone wondered at my absence from this discussion, I have been away on holiday without any Internet access (even in hotels) for nearly two weeks.  I shall be catching up with reading what's been said over the next day or so, and it looks as if I may need to add some further comments.

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Apr 2011, 21:57
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It's virtually guaranteed that every prominent fiction will 'acquire' a tenuous cometary tail of slashficcers. regardless of genre, content, or style.

I realized this a long time ago, but it still makes me sad.
Why sad?  Sure, it's absurd, but I don't see why it's a big deal.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 16 Apr 2011, 22:02
There's nothing wrong with mourning for the state of humanity. 

I do it all the time.  I teach at an open admissions state university.   :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Apr 2011, 22:11
Mourning's so unproductive, though.  Why mourn, when you can use the state of humanity to your advantage?  And come on, it's not like it's a new thing, humanity has always been a terrible species.

This post is not meant to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 16 Apr 2011, 23:07
I could def second the foreshadowing comment. Seems to me you could tie him in with the robotics study from the beginning of the week.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Nick and Marla on 16 Apr 2011, 23:15
I've just been hiding from the parts of the internet that I knew would make me sad.

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Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 16 Apr 2011, 23:51
*Can I safely assume that as it currently stands Marten, Faye, Dora and Hannelore are the four central characters?

I've always thought this.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Apr 2011, 00:01
Can I safely assume that as it currently stands Marten, Faye, Dora and Hannelore are the four central characters?
I'd drop Dora, and consider Marten, Faye and Hanners as the central three...as it currently stands.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 17 Apr 2011, 01:05
You can't deny Dora's presence. She and Marten dated for most of the strip's run, and even before that she was carrying strips on her own, and she's done so since the breakup already. Even though the breakups over and we're seeing her less, Jeph's still seeing fit to periodically show us her progress as well as Marten's.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 17 Apr 2011, 01:16
Plus there is a potential Dora/Tai relationship to explore, as hinted at with the strip where Tai visited Dora at CoD with the butterflies and what not.

Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Apr 2011, 01:30
Did Nick just go there?  I think Nick just went there.

Anyway, I'm not saying Dora's presence isn't felt, but I think she's in the second rung of characters, which consists of her, Angus and Marigold.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Tergon on 17 Apr 2011, 02:12
I'm just not seeing it.  Dora's been a major character since basically her first introduction.  Maybe it feels like she's not been in as many strips of late, but there's a perfectly plausible explanation - the comic is following our protagonist, and he's not spending time with her right now.
Any decent "scene" in QC takes at least three or four strips, as I'm sure we all agree, right?  Usually more!  So even though it seems ages if we don't see a character for, say, two or three weeks RL... that much time could be no more than a couple of hours in QC-Land.  Dora has definitely not been removed from the main cast, it's just the way the story is going at the moment.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Apr 2011, 02:35
The way I see it, you can't really say that the characters in QC-land fall into different tiers.  They are all imagined to go on with their various imagined existences, while Jeph's eye roams over their landscape and picks out different areas of activity at different times.  Their relative importance doesn't change, only our awareness of them from time to time, through Jeph's choice of view.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Apr 2011, 04:16
And all my tape splicing experience made repairing broken cassette tapes pretty easy.

To be really competent, though, you need to have learnt it under pressure, like in a BBC news room; and  to have done fine music editing as well (guess where I worked around 1969-70).

As for cassettes, they could be good enough to supply the master recording for an LP.  A friend of mine recorded a couple of LPs on a Sony WM-D6C cassette machine, and I contributed a track to a CD from my identical one.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Apr 2011, 04:41
when you do the whole "(/moderator)" thing, it shouts "I am pulling rank".

He does it for clarity, and because some people asked for that when we started more active moderation in this forum.  I choose not to do it (usually), but hope that my wording brings sufficient clarity in itself.

I didn't see how crazy the forum got, but since massive shifts like that happen so rarely, maybe it's not a horrible thing that the forum reacts when they do occur.

Actually, Jeph had been muttering (in the private admin/mod forum) about possibly closing down the QC Discussion Forum for a couple of years  before last autumn's blow-up - that's how much he'd got to dislike it, and that's why the rehabilitation process will take a long time to be fully effective.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Apr 2011, 05:48
Mourning's so unproductive, though.  Why mourn, when you can use the state of humanity to your advantage?  And come on, it's not like it's a new thing, humanity has always been a terrible species.

This post is not meant to be taken seriously.

You're channeling Pintsize again, (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1435) aren't you?


EDIT: Oh, and according to the count on the Wiki, it's Faye, Marten, Dora, Hannelore, Pintsize and Steve.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: cesariojpn on 17 Apr 2011, 06:08
Re: Sweet-Tits in colour -- I always thought that it was Sweet-Tits in the background of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445).  But that may just be me.

People have also "seen her" in a few other strips outside of the Yelling Bird Canon strips......here, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1858) and here. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1863)

(moderator)
Quote from: Forum rules
And finally, shipping and portmanteau names.  You don't do it in real life (I hope!); it fails to meet the criteria I mentioned under "QC" and "Discussion" above; it fails for the reasons given in the quote just given.  Please don't do it!
Take this seriously.
(/moderator)

 Not being snarky here...I honestly don't understand what the above means? Could you translate please?  :?

Read the two locked sticky threads at the top of this (sub-)forum.  The rules are laid out there (and the main forum rules linked to) with extensive discussion and elucidation, including a couple of comments from Jeph himself.

Mind explaining this then? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1449)
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Apr 2011, 06:17
when you do the whole "(/moderator)" thing, it shouts "I am pulling rank".
He does it for clarity, and because some people asked for that when we started more active moderation in this forum.  I choose not to do it (usually), but hope that my wording brings sufficient clarity in itself.

I think what Method of Madness meant was that the (/moderator) thing kinda detracts from the seriousness of when a moderator steps in. I'm not telling you guys what to do, but on several other forums I'm on, I've seen the moderators have a little comment in their signature along the lines of "I'm a moderator, when I need to, I use this colour to show I'm being serious."

It grabs a forumite's attention, and is a visual reminder that the mods are watching the forums. And it does get the point across.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 17 Apr 2011, 07:10
Cesariojpn, that guest strip extrapolates from something Dora said about her collection of VV posters and so Is more than an unreasonable ship.
As for the rest of this discussion, "Jeph's house, Jeph's rules" seems simple enough to me. Plenty of other places to play, even places "devoted" to QC, for those who wanna slash, call Jeph a Nazi (yeah, I stumbled on one) or whatever your little spleen desires.
But If that can't be made to work, I would with reluctance understand the decision to take this forum out behind the barn and shoot it.

Edit for clarity.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Apr 2011, 07:30
Mind explaining this then? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1449)

That's not the forum.

I think what Method of Madness meant was that the (/moderator) thing kinda detracts from the seriousness of when a moderator steps in.

People see it differently, it seems.  I find colour more intrusive than "moderator" brackets (especially on our gray background), and too shouty, or even divisive.  In any case, there is a visual reminder in the coloured stars; and if someone doesn't get a comparatively discrete message, we go to PMs quite quickly rather than making too much of a public thing of it.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 17 Apr 2011, 09:17
I've been away from the computer in a while so I just want to say this:

The last 2 panels in the 1904 strip has some of the cutest hannelore faces ever, the face makes me kind of sad though, it's weird... I really admire Jeph for making such a mix of emotions "just" with some comic.

Same goes tom 1905, I feel sorry for her.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 17 Apr 2011, 09:19

hilarious... funny..  sad..  such a great scale of emotions in one week..


amen, sister
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: DSL on 17 Apr 2011, 09:40
I agree, especially about 1905. For me, what elevates that particular strip is panels 4-7. If you leave them out and just go 1-2-3-8, it's a funny enough gag, but 4 through 7 give us Hanners 's not-entirely- unexpectrd disappointment in/exasperation with her dad, then surprise, hope and finally her been-here-before exasperation.

I do wonder whether dad's question at the end was worried (typical dad) -- or hopeful. One does get the impression Hanners is just one more experiment to this guy.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 17 Apr 2011, 10:16
I'm interested in Hannerdad's comment it it means he thinks he is capable of having sex, but sometimes, a banana is just a banana.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Apr 2011, 12:13
Maybe he's worried that another mad scientist was doing genetic engineering experiments on her. She thought that was possible in strip 1119.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: bunnyThor on 17 Apr 2011, 12:20
As for the rest of this discussion, "Jeph's house, Jeph's rules" seems simple enough to me. Plenty of other places to play, even places "devoted" to QC, for those who wanna slash, call Jeph a Nazi (yeah, I stumbled on one) or whatever your little spleen desires.
But If that can't be made to work, I would with reluctance understand the decision to take this forum out behind the barn and shoot it.

Color me dubious.

I've been around webcomics for a while, and I've hardly ever seen forums devoted to a webcomic that were not originally created by request of the artist. And most of those that are created are locked down eventually. And those that aren't locked down either turn into spammer-filled ghost towns, or become social groups that are almost entirely estranged from the webcomic that spawned the forum.

Back in the days of USENET, you had nothing except unmoderated forums on every conceivable topic. Today almost none of those exist, for good or bad. I'm pretty sure if Jeph shut down this whole she-bang tomorrow, we would not see another forum created off-site. Yes, some forums might devote a stray thread or two to a strip that generated some controversy. But there is not a large enough fervor nor a large enough fanbase to have a dedicated fan site spring up and actually be used. Questionable Content is not Justin Bieber. If this site shut down, people would mostly just shrug and dedicate their fannish energies to the other six dozen webcomics forums that they frequent. (Well, the people on the social part of these forums might be a bit more devestated, but that's a whole different kettle o' fish.)

As it is, I'm not sure which other forums you are talking about. My Google-Fu failed to turn up anything except one thread in the Penny Arcade forums, a few mentions in the xkcd forums, one thread on the badwebcomics forum, and not much else.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 17 Apr 2011, 12:33
I guess this comic goes to prove that Hanners' dad really does care to some extent, he's just married to his job. Haven't all of our folks been guilty of that to some extent? Give him a second chance, Hanners. :(
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: SJCrew on 17 Apr 2011, 12:50
The way I see it, you can't really say that the characters in QC-land fall into different tiers.  They are all imagined to go on with their various imagined existences, while Jeph's eye roams over their landscape and picks out different areas of activity at different times.  Their relative importance doesn't change, only our awareness of them from time to time, through Jeph's choice of view.
True, but I understand the perspective of those who feel some QC characters are garnering more attention than others because they play a larger role in the storyline (read: agree 100%). Marten is the main dude in this shebang, no two ways about that, and so are Faye and Hannelore. Jeph has put much care and attention into crafting their backstories the way you haven't seen in second-string characters like Steve, Wil, Penelope, and Angus, who not only don't show up as much as the main trio, but also haven't received anywhere close to as much character development.

I'm not sure if Jeph has any plans to go into greater detail on what these guys were like pre-QC or how they'll grow over the course of the comic, but it's very much possible for certain characters like Dale and Marigold to become main characters, plotwise; it just hasn't happened yet. Which is why they're considered second string. I mean, just try and say that a character like Blodwyn Raven, who hasn't appeared in a single strip for months, is on the same level as our main trio.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Akima on 17 Apr 2011, 16:32
I'm late to the party (I've been away) but as an exercise in expressing emotion through drawing, Thursday's and Friday's strips were lovely. The body-language, expressions etc. work so well with the story-line. And yes, Hanners is adorable, but we've had quite enough "daww"-ing already, so I'll move on.

What I'm wondering, is how Hanners' satellite-phone works. How does the ear-piece attach to her ear? I suppose it is large enough for an ear-hook to be hidden behind the circular body, but that would be no fun at all. Some sort of local adhesion field, perhaps? Also, if JE-C can pack all the "works" needed to phone a space-station in Earth orbit into that little gadget, he's definitely way ahead of the otherwise mundane communications technology in the QC-verse, so it could just be a wireless headset for a larger unit somewhere else.

There really isn't all that much to discuss, unless you want to get into the subject of how all of the characters were brought up in abusive and/or traumatizing environments and are now having to learn how to cope as adults.
True of the characters, but actually also true of everyone. Possibly what makes QC so fascinating.

I don't understand the preoccupation with "ranking" QC characters. QC is storytelling, and why would anyone expect all the characters in a story to have "equal time"?

Edit: Fixed stupid spelling mistake.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: gprimr1 on 17 Apr 2011, 16:46
I imagine that the phone is connected to a regular land line and it goes through a gateway to be sent up to the satellite.

Modern day satellite phones work the same way. You get a number, someone calls you on a land line, and it goes to a terrestrial gateway to be sent up to the satellite network.

Iridium, one of the big names in satellite communications has civilian gateways in Tempe Arizona and Italy and a military gateway in Hawaii.

The funny part, is if it were Iridium, Hanners call would cost about 4 dolllars a minute.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Apr 2011, 17:45
Maybe it's VoIP.

The headset can't end in an earbud, that would be unsanitary. A cellular adhesion field would be fun, and maybe Hannelore's skin is clean enough that she'd be OK with it.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 17 Apr 2011, 18:22
I would think the sophisticated part of the link would be at whatever Hannerdad uses as his space station's ground control link (Houston, as it were.)

As this is the case, Hannelore is probably using whatever she uses for her phone, landline, cellular or VoIP, and she's calling another phone.
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: Carl-E on 17 Apr 2011, 19:59
(http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/destroy3/verizon-guy.gif)


Dad?  Can you hear me now??
Title: Re: WCDT 11-15 April 2011 (1901-1905)
Post by: akronnick on 17 Apr 2011, 20:17
Good!