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Title: Naming a Genre
Post by: calenlass on 14 Apr 2011, 01:22
So, there is a particular genre of music that really has no name because it didn't really need one until now, when everything has a label. It is that music from the 50s that was always really happy, usually strings-heavy with a plucked harp, and almost always instrumental (sans lyrics) or dubbed over with a super-cheerful narrator, and makes me think of housewives in their kitschy kitchens and 50s Futurism. You probably know it from TV show themes (Bewitched (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BbfGblqZj4), the Jetsons (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qcMjG1KL2Q), Ozzy and Harriet (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-qk4FMTkKo)) or ads (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekavpH7m5gU&feature=player_embedded) or that Simpsons episode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YAhSxOIOe4) or the Sims (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObCgwGR__wE&feature=player_embedded) or Pepperland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIfBNk5UQsY) or the Disney monorail music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg5QGd_twGg). Also I found this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySxRT1o1pNY&feature=player_embedded#at=16).

Also, I would like a better way to refer to it, so I propose that we make one up, because "50s Future Kitchen" sounds kind of dumb.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: calenlass on 14 Apr 2011, 01:26
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl5b7gGK_Ck) are some (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SUeE7dpMWg&feature=player_embedded) others (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvYR2RyhFVI&feature=player_embedded) I found (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZchXRWPoEI&playnext=1&list=PL731236FC98D38D8A).
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: E. Spaceman on 14 Apr 2011, 02:08
Space Age Bachelor Pad Music?
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: est on 14 Apr 2011, 04:20
Not sure if Meelio was joking based oin what was written on one of the albums in the youtube clip or if he actually knew, but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_age_pop

also called Bachelor pad music, or lounge music.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: Inlander on 14 Apr 2011, 06:00
Hey, does anybody remember that lounge revival of the late 90s?

Boy, that sure did suck.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: Lummer on 14 Apr 2011, 06:14
Jetson-core.

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Apr 2011, 07:26
Hey, does anybody remember that lounge revival of the late 90s?

Boy, that sure did suck.

Lounge no, but did the swing/big band revival of the 90s catch on outside of the US?
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: Inlander on 14 Apr 2011, 08:09
Only insofar as a bunch of people saw the movie Swingers.

Big Bad Voodoo Daddy toured Australia a few times, but I think that was about ten years after the swing craze had peaked.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Apr 2011, 08:39
Oddly enough, I saw a thing in the newspaper advertising a show they're playing at a ski resort near here.

Surprised they're still around, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: calenlass on 14 Apr 2011, 08:56
Man, when I think of lounge music, I think of jazz with a lot of sax. This sounds more like... I dunno, like if muzak were its deformed bastard child several interpretations removed. Like if elevator music was pleasant. Also, aren't bachelor pads supposed to be sloppy and messy and unkempt, with mismatched furniture and possibly dirty laundry strewn about, a rather large entertainment center, and nothing but beer and leftovers in the fridge? Because that is definitely not what this music makes me think of.

Jetson-core is the best suggestion.

Edit: Space Age Pop is a loose term that doesn't necessarily specify this particular flavour of music, just the era, and wikipedia says that lounge music is related to this, but isn't this. So my point still stands.

Also I never knew there was a "revival" in the 90s. I guess it wasn't as prevalent as you thought?
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: calenlass on 14 Apr 2011, 09:09
Ok actually after browsing a few links and exploring on youtube, I found Light Music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_music), which sounds about right, I guess. Lame.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: calenlass on 14 Apr 2011, 09:45
Really, light music is really a horrible name for it. I would have called muzak "light music" because it is technically "beautiful music" and there is nothing particularly beautiful about muzak. Maybe retro-classical, since people like to be so strikingly unimaginative, but whatever, I guess. Anyway, thanks, Ben et al.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: De_El on 14 Apr 2011, 18:30
Also, aren't bachelor pads supposed to be sloppy and messy and unkempt, with mismatched furniture and possibly dirty laundry strewn about, a rather large entertainment center, and nothing but beer and leftovers in the fridge? Because that is definitely not what this music makes me think of.

Historical context. Associating the term with a kind of music was coined in the 1950s, therefore your associations are kind of irrelevant. Which is not to say that they're not true now, or that you can't think it's a bad name for it, but that explains the cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: KvP on 14 Apr 2011, 19:44
Yeah the idea of young masculinity has changed a lot in the last 60 years.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: KharBevNor on 14 Apr 2011, 23:35
Yeah a bachelors pad used to imply a swishy fuck-palace, basically.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: E. Spaceman on 15 Apr 2011, 01:15
Not sure if Meelio was joking based oin what was written on one of the albums in the youtube clip or if he actually knew, but:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_age_pop

also called Bachelor pad music, or lounge music.

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My bathtub music of choice.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: Patrick on 19 Apr 2011, 00:11
"beautiful music"

Nothing in the world has disappointed me as much as reading the Wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beautiful_music#Instrumental-vocal_mix) on this very topic several months ago. Seeing the term 'beautiful music' used to describe music by Barbra Streisand, John Denver, and Barry Manilow just struck me as insulting to the concept of beauty in music. I know it's a silly thing to get upset over but for some reason it really pissed me off.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: De_El on 19 Apr 2011, 19:46
Nope! You're totally right; that's a really irritating thing to have just learned.
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Apr 2011, 07:00
Hey, does anybody remember that lounge revival of the late 90s?

Boy, that sure did suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHqa2cpfrGw

?
Title: Re: Naming a Genre
Post by: E. Spaceman on 02 May 2011, 23:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkaJ5z9QBZQ


stereolab goddamnit