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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 17 Apr 2011, 18:53
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No poll this week; I might not be available to change it.
However, I will make a bold prediction: We WILL see Hannerdad!
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That would be awesome!!!
I also want to see his space station and the mode of conveyance he uses to get back and forth from same.
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...an oversized, rocket powered roomba?
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That would be cool, but I'm holding out hope for a space elevator!
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Space elevator would be the most economic form of travel most likely, since in one comic it does reference humans having advanced development of structures in Earth orbit. (Don't remember the strip number).
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No poll this week; I might not be available to change it.
I'm not trying to tell anyone the right way to do things, oh my no. But if you don't feel like you can do everything you like with the weekly thread, you could . . . and this is just a crazy suggestion here . . . let someone else create it instead. I'm not trying to make a fuss here; I'm just pointing out historical precedent.
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Comic's up and Marten is genuinely missing CoD.
Maybe this will be the week when he makes his triumphant sheepish return to his old haunt, where he runs into...
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I am prepared to be very wrong about this, but wouldn't a space elevator take you up to the geosynchronous orbit? As Hanners was able to spot Dad's station from the ground I would think that the said station is at a much lower orbit? Of course, having a space elevator at hand would make the construction of massive space habitats at or near a geosynchronous orbit a less daunting task, so I may be contradicting myself.
And, Marten, Sometimes a coffee shop is just a coffee shop. Or may be a wave of nostalgy will soon carry Marten back to CoD?
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Hannerdad's space station was moving across the sky, so it's not in geosynchronous orbit.
What does everyone think is the meaning of Padma's expression in the last panel?
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Either she's a sadistic succubus who secretly enjoys other people's profound discomfort, or she's genuinely oblivious to the awkwardness that she constantly causes. We don't really know her well enough yet to tell which....
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at this rate, Marten and Padma will have three kids in college before she even realizes they're dating.
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He uses an Asgard Transporter.
Marten, it's time to go 'Home' to CoD.
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No poll this week; I might not be available to change it.
I'm not trying to tell anyone the right way to do things, oh my no. But if you don't feel like you can do everything you like with the weekly thread, you could . . . and this is just a crazy suggestion here . . . let someone else create it instead. I'm not trying to make a fuss here; I'm just pointing out historical precedent.
Dude, he hasn't created it in a few weeks. (The past two were me) He probably just created it this week because it was almost Monday and nobody had yet. That being said, I'm surprised he didn't at least create a poll anyway, since a poll for the week is better than no poll at all.
As for the comic itself, anyone else think that Padma seems a little too happy? What's her angle?
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I think there is a good message in today's strip.
Even in a comic universe where Marten is by all means the center, Jeph isn't going to contour every character to Marten's whims and needs. I hope people take this to heart: sometimes it isn't all about you. I know I wish I could just say that to certain people's faces haha
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Hannerdad's space station was moving across the sky, so it's not in geosynchronous orbit.
I would think that a space station at a geosynchronous orbit would only appear as an immobile dot, if the orbit were exactly on top of the equator. An object on a non-equatorial orbit with a 24 hour period would move (approximately) North-South across the sky.
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As for the comic itself, anyone else think that Padma seems a little too happy? What's her angle?
I think she's just being her cheerful self as she moves on to check on the next customer - Marten's little pity-party of a self revelation is already out of sight, out of mind...
So now, Marten realizes it's not an alternate CoD, "where everybody knows your name". It may become one, but it won't have a chance to if he goes back to CoD!
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Awkwarrrrd.
Marten, did you remember your fancy dress and monocle?
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He could always borrow Pintsize's!
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I think there's a much simpler solution to this. Marten's been to the Secret Bakery twice, and bumped into Padma in a bar where she mistakenly thought he was gay. She recognises his face enough to be friendly to him, but considering the number of regular customers the Secret Bakery probably has, there's a good chance she's just not really all that concerned about Marten's awkward feelings. She doesn't know the guy, why would she need to start hitting the Empathy button with him?
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I don't know, it seemed to be that's been his go to place for coffee since he broke up with Dora, so I'd say he's gone at least a dozen times.
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her expression in the last panel combined with that shirt remind me of raven
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There are few moments as depressing as realizing you're one
human sentient being among 6,893,245 248 253 257 - screw it, I'm posting - billion.
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Space elevator would be the most economic form of travel most likely, since in one comic it does reference humans having advanced development of structures in Earth orbit. (Don't remember the strip number).
It would be ECONOMIC but I doubt its FEASIBLE.
They have a material that theoretically could do it, yes. But that doesnt change the fact that any object hitting the elevator will have a massive impact. Practically it will be bullets flying at about 8 km/s, much stronger than normal bullets (which are between 300 m/s for subsonic bullets and something like 2 km/s for amor penetration bullets). And thats assuming we talk about satelite objects in fixed orbit. Meteors will have even greater speeds. I talk about the lower end of the elevator here, though. The upper parts will see much smaller impact speeds.
Besides, space elevator only means you have a fast way to get to geosynchronous orbit at 36,000 km from earth (at 36,000 km, you will orbit earth once every 24 hours, thus being always above the same point of earth. Thats why, by simply going up, you would be able to enter a stable orbit.
For example, it wont allow you to easily get to the international space station, which is in an orbit of ~350 km, which is cheap to reach (with normal rockets).
You still could try, though. If you leave the elevator at a point before the geosynchronous point, you would enter an orbit that would fall to earth in an eclipse. If you choose the right point, your lowest orbit point would indeed be 350 km. If you slow that orbit down, you will be able to enter the 350 km orbit at much less needed acceleration than directly starting with a rocket, and more importantly, as you dont need to fight earth gravitation, you might use an iron engine for this, which produces very little thrust, but is extremely fuel efficient. It also needs a lot of electricity, but thats what solar panels are for. However, the travel time would still be so slow its not really an option for manned flight.
The other option is of course leaving earth orbit altogether at points much above 36,000 km.
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my theory on the smile: she put something special in there....maybe Prozac, or that spice crap they did at COD a long time ago, or maybe just different coffee....
but she's still completely blowing off marten sadly :(
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Padma is the best. I almost forgot about her in the midst of this sentimental Hannelore business. I love how Jeph plays on her obliviousness, and it always seems to get a laugh out of me. :laugh:
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Padma's smile and wide-eyedness forces me to smile in kind. She seems to mean well, being attentive to a customer but doesn't know Marten well enough to get further into his story. She at least let him finish his mini-story, well when Marten interrupted her to finish it.
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Space elevator are nearly impossible in the real world.
You are aware that this is a comic with superspies at volcanoes and sentient robots the size of a dachshund and human eating allosauruses and sexually reproducing, rocket equipped, flying roombas, right?
Right?
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I think there's a much simpler solution to this. Marten's been to the Secret Bakery twice, and bumped into Padma in a bar where she mistakenly thought he was gay. She recognises his face enough to be friendly to him, but considering the number of regular customers the Secret Bakery probably has, there's a good chance she's just not really all that concerned about Marten's awkward feelings. She doesn't know the guy, why would she need to start hitting the Empathy button with him?
This is pretty much spot-on. A barista isn't going to give a shit about your first world problems if she doesn't already know you outside of work.
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I think we'll be meeting HannerDad, but not actually seeing him. I just had this vision of a large robot that HannerDad sends to Earth to check in on Hanners
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I think there's a much simpler solution to this. Marten's been to the Secret Bakery twice, and bumped into Padma in a bar where she mistakenly thought he was gay. She recognises his face enough to be friendly to him, but considering the number of regular customers the Secret Bakery probably has, there's a good chance she's just not really all that concerned about Marten's awkward feelings. She doesn't know the guy, why would she need to start hitting the Empathy button with him?
This is pretty much spot-on. A barista isn't going to give a shit about your first world problems if she doesn't already know you outside of work.
Which makes sense. If they regularly did so, it would mess with their monkeysphere (http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html)*.
* No, it's not a TvTropes link :wink:.
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Telepresence from orbit, saves on the commuting expenses.
Also, Marten knew Faye from the bar, not from work, so he had an in with the CoD gang.
Of course, if things had gone differently and he had actually hooked up with Sara, he may have been forced to switch to TSB earlier.
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I am prepared to be very wrong about this, but wouldn't a space elevator take you up to the geosynchronous orbit? As Hanners was able to spot Dad's station from the ground I would think that the said station is at a much lower orbit? Of course, having a space elevator at hand would make the construction of massive space habitats at or near a geosynchronous orbit a less daunting task, so I may be contradicting myself.
Be careful not to confuse geosynchronous orbit and geostationary orbit. The latter is a special case of the former, and is always above the equator. A space elevator, assuming it could be built at all, would have to be anchored at a location on the equator, and terminate at or above geostationary orbit.
And yes, at TSB Marten is just a customer.
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The only shop where I was ever something more than just a customer, I ended up marrying the proprietrix.
Nobody else I know runs anything.
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Be careful not to confuse geosynchronous orbit and geostationary orbit. The latter is a special case of the former, and is always above the equator. A space elevator, assuming it could be built at all, would have to be anchored at a location on the equator, and terminate at or above geostationary orbit.
Correct. I googled for more information and this was the first hit. :-D I do think that if they have a network of space elevators (or just one) in QCverse, then using that as a intermediate step would be the most fuel efficient way of sending anything to any kind of a geosynchronous orbit (with minimal thrust for correcting the orbit from geostationary to geosynchronous).
Also building the space elevator necessitates a massive clean up -project of getting rid of a bunch of satellites in danger of hitting the elevator (I have read my ACC) for the reasons described by snubnose.
I was just sorta hoping that HannerDad put his station on a geosynchronous orbit that brings him over Northampton every day. As a kind of a fatherly, yet a tad creepy geeky sign of affection.
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A space elevator, assuming it could be built at all, would have to be anchored at a location on the equator, and terminate at or above geostationary orbit.
For a fictional account of this, see Arthur C Clarke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountains_of_Paradise). I also have a copy of his original book on artificial satellites :wink: .
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I prefer to think of it as an orbit-capable Great Glass Elevator. So much more stylish than a regular old Space Elevator.
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A space elevator, assuming it could be built at all, would have to be anchored at a location on the equator, and terminate at or above geostationary orbit.
For a fictional account of this, see Arthur C Clarke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountains_of_Paradise). I also have a copy of his original book on artificial satellites :wink: .
Also in Red Mars, and several other accounts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevators_in_fiction).
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Hannerdad's space station was moving across the sky, so it's not in geosynchronous orbit.
What does everyone think is the meaning of Padma's expression in the last panel?
One word: clueless
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Hannerdad's space station was moving across the sky, so it's not in geosynchronous orbit.
What does everyone think is the meaning of Padma's expression in the last panel?
One word: clueless
Why no one is suggesting a new romance? :evil:
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I prefer to think of it as an orbit-capable Great Glass Elevator. So much more stylish than a regular old Space Elevator.
You and your old-fashioned WonkaVator. ;)
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Why no one is suggesting a new romance?
Because there's no sign of it? Because it's not necessary? Because we don't know what Jeph has in mind? Because everyone else has read the rules and stickies?
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You and your old-fashioned WonkaVator. ;)
Laugh all you want, but when the Vermicious Knids come, you see if I'll give you a ride to safety.
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Certainly time for Marten to go back to CoD!
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I really, sincerely, deeply hope Jeph does not send Marten back into CoD. It's be a massive step back in the the development he's shown thus far, especially his nigh-violent defense of our little sister Hanners. CoD would likely result in Marten falling into familiar patterns, negating all we've seen. I would rather Marten succeed in getting to join the social circle at the SB.
Besides, he has an in. It's Elliot.
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You and your old-fashioned WonkaVator. ;)
Laugh all you want, but when the Vermicious Knids come, you see if I'll give you a ride to safety.
This made me smile.
When we dye easter eggs (yes, my daughters are 17 and 21 and we still dye and hide easter eggs, dammit), there's always one that's dyed puke green with a purple tip and a horrible face with red eyes, representing a vermicious Knid. It started the year I read the great glass elevator to them as a bedtime story.
I think that was about fourteen years ago...
As for Marten falling into old patterns, I don't see that he's really changed much - he (and the others) have always been protective of Hanners. I think Jeph may be building to the awkward return, and the realization that they can still be friends and get on with life!
And now that I've said it...
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I hope he does go back to CoD. This new coffee shop has not won me over.
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I really, sincerely, deeply hope Jeph does not send Marten back into CoD. It's be a massive step back in the the development he's shown thus far, especially his nigh-violent defense of our little sister Hanners. CoD would likely result in Marten falling into familiar patterns, negating all we've seen. I would rather Marten succeed in getting to join the social circle at the SB.
Besides, he has an in. It's Elliot.
Marten has not shown any real development as a character, though (and someone being violently protective of Hanners is pretty much par for the course in this comic, so that example literally means nothing).
If anything, the only way I'd like to see a CoD return is if Marten gets similar treatment there that he got today ("The world doesn't revolve around you, asshat!").
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Marten'll be back at CoD at some point.
Two of his good friends work there afterall.
And the initial awkwardness will be positively delicious.
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The realization thst the world isn't just going to fall into your lap is a significant step in the development of anyone. So, yeah, sucking it up, going back to CoD and meeting that world on its terms (yeah, that price board on the wall applies to you, too, Marty) and reaching out to people who are probably still his friends if he'd let them be such ... We'd see some progress toward Marten 2.0.
Something that's nagged me about our hero ... Have we ever seen him initiate a relationship -- of any kind? Faye introduced herself. ProtoHanners introduced herself. Cosette introduced herself. Faye introduced Dora, who took it from there. Hell, Jimbo introduced himself. I can think of two attempts ... Girl in bar just before Hanners's debut (with Marten trying more to make a point to Steve rather than introduce himself to said girl) ... And, well, there's Padma in the Horrible Revelation, which probably counts as Marten's first on - screen attempt. Looking for a job and meeting Tai probably counts, sorta -- but I say she initiated the friendship.
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I have the opposite problem as Marten. If I go to a coffee shop regularly the workers will recognize me and try to strike up conversation. All I want is coffee to feed my addiction.
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Re: The space elevator. in QCVerse, one could probably knit the cable out of whatever Hanners used to knit her scarf (it was made from the fur of giant space bunnies). Meanwhile, here's another ground- to-space transport system that seems tailor-made for the QCVerse:
http://settlement.arc.nasa.gov/Nowicki/SPBI122.HTM
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I prefer to think of it as an orbit-capable Great Glass Elevator. So much more stylish than a regular old Space Elevator.
Says the guy with the Willy Wonka avi-pic....
And damn you Jwhouk for getting there before me.
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Have we ever seen him initiate a relationship -- of any kind?
Not that I can think of. The point is well taken.
In fact, has he ever taken initiative on anything except getting soup? Amir and Natasha were already jamming when he joined them. Even in the case of The Secret Bakery, Hannelore picked it out.
OK, recruiting Hanners as a drummer counts. Anything else?
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Recently? He approached Padma in a bar, he pulled a sword on Creepy Creepy Clinton, and he set up the "Congratulations For Having Sex" celebration to defuse the awkwardness with Faye and Angus. There's also smaller stuff like showing a little more backbone at being teased by people or by his Mum, but those three are the primary examples to me.
And I'll grant that none of them are exactly going out and strongarming the world into submission, but it's far from the usual passive response we've become used to from Marten. They're examples of him being faced with a situation he could have backed away from, and instead he didn't hesitate to step up and take the initiative in his responses. To me, though, the most telling part is that they have all happened since the breakup. Maybe losing something he cared about has started to harden Marten up a bit.
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Only one of those things has to do with initiating a relationship, Tergon (and the others were situations where he was reacting, not initiating anything).
Marten pretty much only reacts to what happens around/to him (as far as the actual history of the strip goes, not back story stuff), he has never really taken any initiative of his own other than the horrible plot-point of pursuing someone that wasn't into him anymore halfway across the country and inviting someone to live with him purely for the remote possibility of hooking up with them farther down the line (Faye, at the beginning of QC when she burned her apartment up with a toaster or something equally retarded, after pining after her for however many strips).
He may have grown out of that shit since then, but the more recent drunken asshole strips means that there is a lot of unresolved shit in his psyche that still needs to be sorted out.
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Almost anything can be described as a reaction to a situation. Right down to Marten's reaction to "I don't have any soup" or Faye's reaction to "Sven is good-looking and I am horny". The difference is that there are passive reactions and active reactions.
I do actually grant that for the vast majority of the strip Marten's been giving us passive responses. He lets Faye move in when she needs a place to stay, then he lets Faye turn him down after The Talk, then he accepts Dora's advances when she kisses him, he does nothing but say "Aw shucks" when he loses his job as Office Bitch, he accepts the position at the library when he wins it by accident - nobody else applied and he passed Tai's secret test without knowing it was a test at all. All of those and many others are passive responses.
But when things started to go sour with Dora, Marten found something he considered worth fighting for. He actually made an effort to keep the relationship going, and fought to stay with her. When they finally broke up, he was bitter about it and not just passively accepting. And since then, well, there's all the examples listed.
Again, I'm not saying that he's gone out and changed the world with these small things. What I am saying is that he's become a far more assertive person than when the strip started, and his character has evolved. And that in the last few hundred strips, it's become more obvious than ever.
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I would argue that he's become a hell of a lot less assertive and only strives to maintain whatever he considers to be status quo at the time and that what we're seeing now is not so much any sort of bouncing back and forth on assertiveness so much as a widening of what he considers permissible variety in his life.
I mean, the last major breakup Marten had resulted in him moving across the country trying to keep it from happening and in this one he's moping and whining around about it, but not doing anything drastic. It is a marked improvement, in that light.
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I would argue that he's become a hell of a lot less assertive and only strives to maintain whatever he considers to be status quo at the time and that what we're seeing now is not so much any sort of bouncing back and forth on assertiveness so much as a widening of what he considers permissible variety in his life.
Odin sort of sums up what was going to be my reply to the replies. Yes, Marten does fight to preserve. Will we see him fight to grow? I would not mind seeing his next mopery answered by a good, old- fashioned yellin'-at from Hanners. Those seem to hit their targets.
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Have we ever seen him initiate a relationship -- of any kind?
Not that I can think of. The point is well taken.
In fact, has he ever taken initiative on anything except getting soup? Amir and Natasha were already jamming when he joined them. Even in the case of The Secret Bakery, Hannelore picked it out.
OK, recruiting Hanners as a drummer counts. Anything else?
That's about it, actually - recruiting Hanners as a drummer is about it. And, as we already know, that wasn't a relationship initiation. Everyone that's come into his life has not done so by his choice (save, perhaps Pintsize, who we've already speculated may have been given him by mom).
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I interrupt this meaning
lessful discussion to bring to your attention this:
http://jephjacques.tumblr.com/post/4736554766/this-started-here-and-then-went-here-and-here-and (http://jephjacques.tumblr.com/post/4736554766/this-started-here-and-then-went-here-and-here-and)
Your welcome. :-D
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People probably said this already, but I am for Marten going back of CoD and at least try to lay the groundwork for reconciliation.
With Hanners as mediator.
[EDIT] @iduguphergrave: Sexy....*drools*
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I interrupt this meaninglessful discussion to bring to your attention this:
http://jephjacques.tumblr.com/post/4736554766/this-started-here-and-then-went-here-and-here-and (http://jephjacques.tumblr.com/post/4736554766/this-started-here-and-then-went-here-and-here-and)
Your welcome. :-D
Thank you.
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Marten pretty much only reacts to what happens around/to him (as far as the actual history of the strip goes, not back story stuff), he has never really taken any initiative of his own other than the horrible plot-point of pursuing someone that wasn't into him anymore halfway across the country and inviting someone to live with him purely for the remote possibility of hooking up with them farther down the line (Faye, at the beginning of QC when she burned her apartment up with a toaster or something equally retarded, after pining after her for however many strips).
And considering how both those initiatives worked out for him, I'm not surprised Marten has taken a more passive approach to starting relationships since then. Let's face it, he sucks at proactively initiating with women (see what happened with Padma), and he knows it. And he hasn't grown the thick skin necessary to get shot down multiple times while practicing to get better.
So unless he grows thicker skin, his only relationships are going to result from people coming up to him.
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inviting someone to live with him purely for the remote possibility of hooking up with them farther down the line (Faye, at the beginning of QC when she burned her apartment up with a toaster or something equally retarded, after pining after her for however many strips).
Wait, what? Faye living with Marten was hardly Marten's initiative. She came over, asked to stay a while, and they made good roommates (at least plotwise), so it stuck. Also, apparently they've been living together since strip twenty-two, so he hardly had time to pine over her and come with some elaborate plan.
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All that for... Nothin'.
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So is Martin gonna have another proverbial meltdown? The day can't get any more worse.....
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OH yes it can.
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The only shop where I was ever something more than just a customer, I ended up marrying the proprietrix.
Nobody else I know runs anything.
All things considered, probably just as well, I'd say, unless bigamy laws are different in your parts or there is now no Mrs. Reiver.
At this point, I'm guessing the coffee bag would give Marten a less awkward conversation than Dora or Padma. It'd be my pick.
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Eh he just has to start coming back daily, he'll run into Dora sooner or later. Assuming, of course, he can psych himself up that many times...
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Poor sad Hannelore, though I did like Fayes idea. It is good that Marten managed to psyche himself up to go in...but then it gets somewhat shot in the foot. I wouldn't call this as bad as his the whole quitting/firing thing tho'
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C'mon, it's not that bad. Once you've psyched yourself up it's easier to do it again and next time he'll be able to enter the awkward conversation without the strain of first time psyching up. Best thing that could have happened to him in relation to this. That is unless Jeph starts a long running gag of Marten and Dora just missing each other.
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C'mon, it's not that bad. Once you've psyched yourself up it's easier to do it again and next time he'll be able to enter the awkward conversation without the strain of first time psyching up. Best thing that could have happened to him in relation to this. That is unless Jeph starts a long running gag of Marten and Dora just missing each other.
Which culminates in Faye getting irritated by the angst cause by the near-contact that she finally just grapples whichever one of them makes the first entrance into Coffee of Doom and just waits there with them for the other to show up...only to find out that they met and talked off camera.
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Marten me lad, you've come home . . . .
. . . . And the 'Big Bad DoraWolf' wasn't there :-D
Actually, Faye's idea ain't all that bad. After all, practice makes perfect. ;)
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inviting someone to live with him purely for the remote possibility of hooking up with them farther down the line (Faye, at the beginning of QC when she burned her apartment up with a toaster or something equally retarded, after pining after her for however many strips).
Wait, what? Faye living with Marten was hardly Marten's initiative. She came over, asked to stay a while, and they made good roommates (at least plotwise), so it stuck. Also, apparently they've been living together since strip twenty-two, so he hardly had time to pine over her and come with some elaborate plan.
The point is (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=25), he was kind of a creepy bastard in the early comics (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=33).
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Marten's expression reminded me of Marbears first attempt to enter a bar (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1463).
...Yes, I know, this is not relevant to the discussion.
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It's the WCDT, of course it's relevant!
(I had the same impression)
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inviting someone to live with him purely for the remote possibility of hooking up with them farther down the line (Faye, at the beginning of QC when she burned her apartment up with a toaster or something equally retarded, after pining after her for however many strips).
Wait, what? Faye living with Marten was hardly Marten's initiative. She came over, asked to stay a while, and they made good roommates (at least plotwise), so it stuck. Also, apparently they've been living together since strip twenty-two, so he hardly had time to pine over her and come with some elaborate plan.
Cue dramatic twist as we find out Marten booby trapped Faye's toaster as part of his master plan.
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It's a bit late for that, don't you think?
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Not if it turns out Pintsize did it.
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It would certainly demonstrate some mastery of the long game. Not that this is outside Marten's reach. In fact I wouldn't want to get into a protracted tactical game against him.
Pintsize on the otherhand doesn't have nearly enough patience to play out a hand like that.
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Quick show of hands....who saw that happening?
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Shouldn't Marten have seen the absence of Dora when he walked past the huge window that makes up the front of CoD?
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Fuck. Great. Back into the rut we go. Meh. SSDD.
inviting someone to live with him purely for the remote possibility of hooking up with them farther down the line (Faye, at the beginning of QC when she burned her apartment up with a toaster or something equally retarded, after pining after her for however many strips).
Wait, what? Faye living with Marten was hardly Marten's initiative. She came over, asked to stay a while, and they made good roommates (at least plotwise), so it stuck. Also, apparently they've been living together since strip twenty-two, so he hardly had time to pine over her and come with some elaborate plan.
The point is (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=25), he was kind of a creepy bastard in the early comics (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=33).
Respectfully disagree. In both those instances, Pintsize was being Pintsize. Marten just saw no reason not to be a little bit perverted since it involved a girl he thought was hot.
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Shouldn't Marten have seen the absence of Dora when he walked past the huge window that makes up the front of CoD?
Depends entirely on how much sunrise glare is going on all over that window/how much tinting Dora has on it.
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Shouldn't Marten have seen the absence of Dora when he walked past the huge window that makes up the front of CoD?
Not if she was in the storeroom at the back (or the ladies), no. It's a shop, not a goldfish-bowl.
Hmm... Perhaps Dora will now see Marten leaving the CoD from across the street or something, and immediately conclude that he went there because she wasn't on duty. Cue paranoia?
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She moving from Sven's to her new place; only a small chance that the journey takes her past the café, and that she'd look in.
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She moving from Sven's to her new place; only a small chance that the journey takes her past the café, and that she'd look in.
Unless she went in to remind Faye about an incoming order, or to take the day's takings to the bank, or some other buisness related matter.
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Or, you know, Faye or Hanners mentions later that Marten stopped by ...
Wonder if Dora would then say, tell him he's not welcome.
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I don't think she'd be that vindictive...all the same, I was kinda hoping for some fireworks; I can't see Dora being cool with seeing Marten at the shop just yet.
Also teehee Faye's wearin the tsundere shirt :-P
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I kinda like Hanners's expression in the last panel. Not so much sad-Hanners as the beginnings of "WTF Marten?"
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I kinda like Hanners's expression in the last panel. Not so much sad-Hanners as the beginnings of "WTF Marten?"
I thought it was confused Hanners, more "WTFH" rather than "WTF".
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Quick show of hands....who saw that happening?
Oh, you mean today's strip?
(Raises hand)
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This is better than I gave Marten credit for, actually. I figured he'd keep avoiding Dora for as long as possible unless he were forced to confront her.
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I just keep thinking about how happy Hanners was to see Marten come in. She's just the best.
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Shouldn't Marten have seen the absence of Dora when he walked past the huge window that makes up the front of CoD?
Not if she was in the storeroom at the back (or the ladies), no. It's a shop, not a goldfish-bowl.
Hmm... Perhaps Dora will now see Marten leaving the CoD from across the street or something, and immediately conclude that he went there because she wasn't on duty. Cue paranoia?
Or simply say, "Looks like I picked the wrong week to move into a new place." While perfectly imitating Lloyd Bridges.
Knowing her, Dora could do the classic "honk-your-car's-horn-to-signal-someone", pull over, and talk with Marten in her car.
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Knowing her, Dora could do the classic "honk-your-car's-horn-to-signal-someone", pull over, and talk with Marten in her car.
I hate that. I really do. Mainly because whenever I go out, I have my earplugs and I can't hear anything, and I have a very pissed off friend telling me off later because I "ignored" them as they were driving along.
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I hope Dora and Marten are able to stay friends.
My best friend is also my ex-girlfriend. We dated for 3 years, broke up, and are best friends.
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For some reason, the way Faye's line is written comes off really mean when I read it.
Maybe it was the emphasis on "that" at the end that tinges it or something. I have no idea.
Which was confusing b/c I was pretty sure it was supposed to be a more light hearted jest than contemptuous snide remark.
Sigh... :psyduck:
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With Faye, how could you be sure?
Given the way Jeph likes to mess with his characters, the next time Marten meets Dora it may be when he's not prepared and in an awkward situation.
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Or, you know, Faye or Hanners mentions later that Marten stopped by ...
Wonder if Dora would then say, tell him he's not welcome.
That would not be a wise move.
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I think that Dora and Marten need to get past this. They were friends before they became partners, and if anyone is to blame for the train wreck of their relationship it's Dora and her insecurities, something she readily admitted when she pulled the plug on their relationship and something she is finally getting some therapy over.
I think that them meeting again at CoD would be a good idea.
Just so long as it's Faye who has her hands on the Broadsword :-D ;)
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I tend to think it will be more awkward for Marten than for Dora. She initiated the breakup, knowing full well that it was her problems causing it. Add to that the fact that she was pretty self-unaware both in their relationship and in therapy ("So, tell me about your brother..."). I just think that, though she may be surprised when he shows up (or when she arrives and he's still there), she's not the type to be awkward about their past.
Marten, on the other hand, is a guy. We tend to be a little more clueless about emotional shit. Well, at least Marten does (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=566). So without any sense of Dora's reaction, he's gonna be nervous as hell until it happens.
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Marten, on the other hand, is a guy. We tend to be a little more clueless about emotional shit.
Testify Brother Carl - tell it to the people.
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No, not clueless - just "differently clued".
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True enough, but most of us pick up the clues differently than women. We usually know something's up, but often can't quite put our fingers on it.
It's like Holmes and Watson...
Watson wuld say, "Look, Holmes! Footprints! Someone's been through here!"
Holmes would say that the "someone" was about 6'3", and had injured his left leg ("Note the scraping around the left footprint, and its slight angle.")
Differently clued, indeed!
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Nah Carl, you had it right the first time-when it comes to how women will react emotionally, most of us guys ARE clueless. Note how, from your link above, Marten COMPLETELELY missed that Dora had the hots for him before she kissed him.
To use your Holmes and Watson example, Watson would'nt even have seen the footprints, never mind been able to estimate the vital stats of the person who made them.
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but he does love jam (http://harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=210).
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I think it would have been funny if Faye actually had drawn Dora's face on a bag of coffee beans and presented it to Marten.
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He didn't necessarily not realize that Dora liked him because he was clueless, he didn't realize it because whenever a guy thinks a girl is into him, he is always wrong (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=64). Which after a while has him assuming that no girls are into him.
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Given the way Jeph likes to mess with his characters, the next time Marten meets Dora it may be when he's not prepared and in an awkward situation.
Dora's Diary, June 25th, 20XX: Today I saw Martin for the first time in as many months since the breakup. He was in a dressing room at Hot Topic....
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No, not clueless - just "differently clued".
....and that's my new avatar text!!!
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Given the way Jeph likes to mess with his characters, the next time Marten meets Dora it may be when he's not prepared and in an awkward situation.
Dora's Diary, June 25th, 20XX: Today I saw Martin for the first time in as many months since the breakup. He was in a dressing room at Hot Topic....
Hmm...
"July 4th, 20XX: Saw Marten for the first time in a while at the local Independence Day celebration. He was drunk and had a small flag hanging from his crotch...."
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True enough, but most of us pick up the clues differently than women. We usually know something's up, but often can't quite put our fingers on it.
It's like Holmes and Watson...
Watson wuld say, "Look, Holmes! Footprints! Someone's been through here!"
Holmes would say that the "someone" was about 6'3", and had injured his left leg ("Note the scraping around the left footprint, and its slight angle.")
Differently clued, indeed!
On the other hand, while they were thus engaged, Watson would notice the pretty lady that walked by. Holmes would simply see a woman, however many details he conjured up about her history. 'Different' is not necessarily worse.
If you really want to talk about such things, read "The Adventure of the Lion's Mane" and compare it to the Watson-narrated adventures to get an idea of what Doyle (not Watson) thought of Holmes.
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On the other hand, while they were thus engaged, Watson would notice the pretty lady that walked by. Holmes would simply see a woman, however many details he conjured up about her history. 'Different' is not necessarily worse.
Good point. And it would be Watson who would note that she was "distressed"!
If you really want to talk about such things, ...
Naah, I was just trawling for a literary example of the different levels of cluelessness between men and women. I read the whole canon when I was much younger, but can't place the one you mention. Time to dig out the annotated collection, I guess...
But your point is well taken - my wife, when seeing that I'm not my usual smiling self, will oftern launch into an "Omigod, what's wrong?" reaction when it's usually just me being tired at the end of a day. Her emotional radar can be oversensitive!
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I just keep thinking about how happy Hanners was to see Marten come in. She's just the best.
'tis why she's my favorite character.
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And Faye is about to defenestrate him into the dumpster in back.
Wouldn't it be funny, though, if Faye strikes out and the white Knight who subdues Creepy Clinton...
...is Sven?
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I guess we all saw this coming. Clinton has not shown a capacity for learning (to wait for Hanner's consent to take that pic). Go get the broadsword, Marten/Faye. unless for some strange reason Hannelore wants to give him a third chance
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Cue the Marten/Hanners shippers in 3..2..1..
*pauses* Okay it'll be a little longer than that
But yeah, Clinton is massive creepers. Dude doesn't seem to be an a-hole...just naturally tending towards the creepers. Some folks just are creepy that way. However, I do wanna see Marten try to beat him up. It would be pretty awesome to see.
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Dead man walking!!!!
Clinton has no idea how much peril he is in. :-o :-o :-o
If that picture makes it to the internet his life is forfeit!!!
Wait...were Marten's CoD murderin' privileges revoked along with his free coffee privileges?
I think in this case, since he's being overseen by Faye, Dora will make an exception...
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I like how Clinton can be construed as Jeph's in-comic avatar for his fans/this forum with very little brain work.
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Remember the description of the Malaysian Battle Spatula as "You could lop off a hand with that thing!".
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You know what, I'm calling it first - if Faye tries to beat up Clinton, she's in trouble. You do not attack a guy with a robot hand and come out okay. Clinton probably has at least a taser in there, probably all kinds of stuff.
Oh, and to close the loophole: He was technically working when Marten drove him off with a sword, so he didn't argue then in case he made his company liable. I imagine a company that builds AnthroPCs has its lawyers kept busy enough.
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Asking for permission and then doing it before a response has a chance to be communicated is generally pretty douchy. And he didn't even apologize for his conduct at their first encounter.
Also, it looks someone's jealous and it's not the guys at the message board! I was joking please don't hurt me...
Is it just me or does he seem to make a point of doing things with his metal hand?
You know what, I'm calling it first - if Faye tries to beat up Clinton, she's in trouble. You do not attack a guy with a robot hand and come out okay. Clinton probably has at least a taser in there, probably all kinds of stuff.
Oh, and to close the loophole: He was technically working when Marten drove him off with a sword, so he didn't argue then in case he made his company liable. I imagine a company that builds AnthroPCs has its lawyers kept busy enough.
He could have a fully loaded pistol in there even, if Jeph reads the Honor Harrington series and coil guns have been miniaturized in the QCverse.
Clinton is from the University of Massive Chewing Sets, not a company. Where did you get the idea that he works for an AnthroPC manufacturer?
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So..... does this comic clear up the whole "Nerdgasming geek vs creepy stalker" debate?
:police: Please come this way, Clinton. We need to have a few words with you. :police:
On a side note, I think Faye is giving Marten too little credit. Sure he's a non-combatant most of the time, but fuck with his friends (See: Vespa girl / Clinton) and he'll find an object off panel to swing at you.
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Actually I just forgot that. But still! In that case, the University probably wouldn't want him to get sued anyway. My bad, but the point remains valid.
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does he seem to make a point of doing things with his metal hand?
Metal or not, he's simply right-handed. But he did say he preferred not to cover it like some other people, so I guess that's making a point.
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Remember the description of the Malaysian Battle Spatula as "You could lop off a hand with that thing!".
So THAT'S what happened to his original hand...
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I realise that there are rules against this sort of thing but I'm tempted to ship Clinton.
A big viking ship, on fire and floating out to sea.
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Asking for permission and then doing it before a response has a chance to be communicated is generally pretty douchy. And he didn't even apologize for his conduct at their first encounter.
Also, it looks someone's jealous and it's not the guys at the message board! I was joking please don't hurt me...
Is it just me or does he seem to make a point of doing things with his metal hand?
Yeah not apologizing for what happened last time annoyed me too. Marten's not jealous, he just doesn't want anybody triple h.*
The metal hand doesn't have to have weapons in it; it as it is is a pretty good weapon. His arm is pretty much a blunt weapon now. One good punch in the right spot and he could knock someone the fuck out.
*Triple h meaning, of course, hurting his Hannelore 8-)
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"Oh Clinton. You're kind of a douche!" - Mr Jacques: Master of understatement
Didn't the farewell he received last time tip him off just slightly?
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To quote Aaron from Sam And Fuzzy: "Dude! Robot hand, not robot arm and torso."
Clinton's hand may be made of metal, but he has the proportional strength of, well, himself. A short, skinny guy who doesn't exactly look like a member of the local branch of Fight Club. If he can one-hit-KO anyone, it's either through blind luck or because he's secretly a ninja, and in either case he doesn't need the metal hand in the first place. At most, if he swings a punch now, it's more likely to hurt the target than himself, and that's about the only improvement I can see. If he has a need to defend himself against Faye, either that hand has serious hardware upgrades, or he's in for a world of hurt.
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I just had this image of Dora walking into CoD just as Marten punches a customer in the face.
Awkward...
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On a side note, I think Faye is giving Marten too little credit.
...this is surprising? It's practically par for the course.
Asking for permission and then doing it before a response has a chance to be communicated is generally pretty douchy fucking rude.
Fixed that for ya. :wink:
Seriously. I have no phobias about having my picture taken (like a few people I know), and I have no particular self-image issues that make me averse to having my picture taken...
...but if you ask permission, and then don't wait for my answer, you might be leaving the room intact, but your electronic device won't be. Especially if you've announced an intention to make the photo public.
Either wait for me to answer, or just surprise me...either is less likely to get your camera smashed.
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"Let me handle this, cupcake."
Favorite Faye is BACK! :-D
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Alternate last line for Marten: "You said you wouldn't use my pet name in public!"
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Alternate last line for Faye: You get the door, I'll get the spatula.
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A douche harrassing a barista on a coffee shop? Hanners showing clear disdain at said douche's persistence?
Calling it now, Hanners and Clinton get into a relationship 300 strips later.
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oooh! are we gonna see the rocket punch now?
is he gonna rocket punch faye??
rocket puuuuuuunch!!1!
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A douche harrassing a barista on a coffee shop? Hanners showing clear disdain at said douche's persistence?
Calling it now, Hanners and Clinton get into a relationship 300 strips later.
Oh it'll take longer than that. It took Angus over 1000 strips to finally wear Faye down (and they both had other relationships in the meantime.)
With Hanners, it'll be more like 3000.
I doubt Faye will allow Clinton's continued existence for that long.
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Whoa, what the hell. Why is Marten taking another level in badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) all of a sudden? I didn't even get time to recover from the last one. And since Marten already got his shine in the 'protect Hanners' spotlight, I think it's reasonable to expect some Faye on Clinton action...
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oooh! are we gonna see the rocket punch now?
is he gonna rocket punch faye??
rocket puuuuuuunch!!1!
Not rocket punch!
Rocket dinosaur-head!
Also, have we really forgotten that Marten, the darling little cupcake, stone cold KO'd an experienced battle-monk with a souffle pan? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697)
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I really thought Clinton was a one-time-only character (like Sven's intern...)
Any bets that CoD gets flooded by iFanboys thereby forcing Hanners to invent a time machine and destroy Clinton at birth retire?
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Also, have we really forgotten that Marten, the darling little cupcake, stone cold KO'd an experienced battle-monk with a souffle pan?
To be fair, the battle-monk in question was waiting in line for his post-rumble latte when Marten took a cheap shot from behind.
Any battle-monk worth his salt would guard against potential enemies taking advantage of a lowering of his defenses like that.
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Whoa, what the hell. Why is Marten taking another level in badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) all of a sudden? I didn't even get time to recover from the last one. And since Marten already got his shine in the 'protect Hanners' spotlight, I think it's reasonable to expect some Faye on Clinton action...
Pretty sure it is far less "taking another level in badass" and more "having a convenient outlet for venting all of his frustrations" or "projecting all of his built up anger on the easy target".
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On a side note, I think Faye is giving Marten too little credit. Sure he's a non-combatant most of the time, but fuck with his friends (See: Vespa girl / Clinton) and he'll find an object off panel to swing at you.
Swing and miss (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=721), and later his entire contribution to defeating the Vespavenger was stopping her robot's foot with his groin (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=746). Give the boy a souflé-pan though and he's dangerous (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697).
Clinton has definitely slipped into creepy stalker territory. This needs to be nipped in the bud, or he'll build some kind of shrine to Hanners in his bedroom.
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Either that or interupt her drunkenly trying to take a piss in the men's room sink. :psyduck:
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A douche harrassing a barista on a coffee shop? Hanners showing clear disdain at said douche's persistence?
Calling it now, Hanners and Clinton get into a relationship 300 strips later.
I think you are trying to imply that Angus has a message board.
That is disgraceful slander. Angus is a pundit; forums are amateur hour, and other people set them up for him. Angus has a blog, thank you very much. And not one of those cheap Blogspot ones. One he PAYS for.
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This needs to be nipped in the bud, or he'll build some kind of shrine to Hanners in his bedroom.
And how do we know he hasn't done it already? I mean, with the Internet and it's fast pace of dissecting information, for all we know, he already did it (and it's all Pintsize's fault).
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I think the thing is- shippers gon' hate- we all have a friend like Hanners who is a little more vulnerable and a little more in need of defense than others. I oscillate between Faye and Hanners as my favorite character, because they are so similar and yet so different. Both have crippling personal issues tempered by a steely strength that comes out when needed. They have both overcome some of their issues, making them a better/happier person. Faye happens to be a hardass on the outside, whereas Hanners is more reserved about it- and vice versa regarding the issues.
I feel this has a part in why Marten feels so protective- he knows what Faye went through to come up to the surface, and wants to make it easier for Hanners than he was able to for Faye. It's not about romantic interest or anything, it's about being a friend and using your prior experiences to make things easier for others. Hanners is still struggling with her OCD, her asocial tendencies, and her other issues to become what she wants to be- normal with a normal life. For someone doing that, the interference of the likes of Clinton can be destructive. What better way to bolster social anxiety than to force someone to be afraid of going about their day because of YOUR lack of social boundaries? Who the heck takes a picture without waiting for permission? Worse, who plans on putting up a picture like this on a message board without even asking permission? I don't have near as many social anxieties as Hannelore has, and I would freak out about that. It's called basic respect- and Clint ain't givin' it.
Also, where does everyone in this comic get their swords? Is it a Terry Pratchett thing where they make them themselves? Also, I don't think Faye would have an issue with this guy, robotic hand or not. Marten... well, all bets are off when someone scares that vulnerable friend I mentioned earlier.
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Whoa, what the hell. Why is Marten taking another level in badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) all of a sudden? I didn't even get time to recover from the last one. And since Marten already got his shine in the 'protect Hanners' spotlight, I think it's reasonable to expect some Faye on Clinton action...
You see, Marten's been taking lessons from Neville Longbottom...
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You see, Marten's been taking lessons from Neville Longbottom...
I think I love you for that.
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This is beside the point, but looking at today's comic makes me think Marten referred to Clinton as Tom Servo last week partially because he does have quite a beaklike nose. I didn't notice the prominence of it until today's strip.
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Whoa, what the hell. Why is Marten taking another level in badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) all of a sudden? I didn't even get time to recover from the last one. And since Marten already got his shine in the 'protect Hanners' spotlight, I think it's reasonable to expect some Faye on Clinton action...
You see, Marten's been taking lessons from Neville Longbottom...
You just made my day. <3
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There will be blood. Clinton's blood. Splattered all over Coffee of Doom.
Cue Dora walking in, seeing the mess and preparing to chew out Faye when.... Woah, it's Marten who has finally achieved his lifelong dream of being a medieval barber!
(The comic's title could be No Country for Douchy Cyborgs!)
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I would actually like to see Dora handle this. Earlier on she used to take that motherly stance/voice, and set her underlings/junior friends straight. Apparently Marten wielding a broadsword didn't make a strong enough impression on Clinton, so he needs to have it spelled out to him, what exactly he is doing wrong, and (in order for the lesson to stick) why it is wrong. Faye's punching is not gonna "help" Clinton, because he apparently is that ignorant about social norms.
Of course, none of our friends are under any obligation to teach this to the ServoDude. Their highest priority is to protect Hannelore from harm.
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No, Faye, please let Marten do it! He may hurt himself, but it'll be character building and totally worth it!
Did anyone else hear Faye say "You want I should break his limbs and face?" in a distinctly mafia accent? Or was that just me?
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I realise that there are rules against this sort of thing but I'm tempted to ship Clinton.
A big viking ship, on fire and floating out to sea.
This x 1000. ;)
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You know what, I'm calling it first - if Faye tries to beat up Clinton, she's in trouble. You do not attack a guy with a robot hand and come out okay. Clinton probably has at least a taser in there, probably all kinds of stuff.
aw man... I got ninja'd.
I don't know guys, I like Clinton, I don't like what he's doing but I think he's harmless, he just have to learn in the hard way. It would be cool that things get better with time and he can appear from time to time, like Angus.
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I realise that there are rules against this sort of thing but I'm tempted to ship Clinton.
A big viking ship, on fire and floating out to sea.
Sir, might I have the address of your jib-cutter?
Clinton is undoubtedly Jeph's worst nightmare. The robot hand may even be symbolic of the vice-like deathgrip handshake he finds himself subjected to from over-eager fanboys. I think he'll be the catalyst for Hanners' dad turning up; then Clinton will go missing for a while; then we'll see him again but he'll have no memory of ANY OF THIS.
Did anyone else hear Faye say "You want I should break his limbs and face?" in a distinctly mafia accent? Or was that just me?
I've been watching a lot of Sopranos lately, so: yes. Entirely.
One problem I anticipate with Dora and Marten meeting up again is that there isn't any neutral ground. There's his place, her coffee shop, his place of work, her brother's apt... nowhere really neutral. If they do have a big talk about things, it'll have to be while wandering around the streets.
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Hanners mom would probably be the more likely candidate for a call, after which Clinton would disappear never to be seen or heard from again.
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I realise that there are rules against this sort of thing but I'm tempted to ship Clinton.
A big viking ship, on fire and floating out to sea.
This x 1000. ;)
Disagree
Then he gets to Valhalla - I think we need to ensure a death on straw so he heads to Nifelheim instead
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I think i need that coffee poster on my kitchen wall, scratch that, my bedroom wall.
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Clinton is certainly turning into a creepy stalker. His "what a coincidence" indicates he knew he would find her here.
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Asking for permission and then doing it before a response has a chance to be communicated is generally pretty douchy. And he didn't even apologize for his conduct at their first encounter.
Also, it looks someone's jealous and it's not the guys at the message board! I was joking please don't hurt me...
Is it just me or does he seem to make a point of doing things with his metal hand?
You know what, I'm calling it first - if Faye tries to beat up Clinton, she's in trouble. You do not attack a guy with a robot hand and come out okay. Clinton probably has at least a taser in there, probably all kinds of stuff.
Oh, and to close the loophole: He was technically working when Marten drove him off with a sword, so he didn't argue then in case he made his company liable. I imagine a company that builds AnthroPCs has its lawyers kept busy enough.
He could have a fully loaded pistol in there even, if Jeph reads the Honor Harrington series and coil guns have been miniaturized in the QCverse.
Clinton is from the University of Massive Chewing Sets, not a company. Where did you get the idea that he works for an AnthroPC manufacturer?
No, no, no! Rocket Fist, man! Or maybe teeny, exploding rocket fingertips.
I will be satisfied with no less.
(Yes, yes, it is a good thing I've learned to live with constant disappointment. But I foolishly keep hoping…)
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You know you're fucking creepy when Billy Quizboy from The Venture Brothers is less creepy than you.
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Whoa, what the hell. Why is Marten taking another level in badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) all of a sudden? I didn't even get time to recover from the last one. And since Marten already got his shine in the 'protect Hanners' spotlight, I think it's reasonable to expect some Faye on Clinton action...
You see, Marten's been taking lessons from Neville Longbottom...
Hi. I think I love you. <3
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Who else had visions of mayhem when they first say the first panel?
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Come on Marten, let's fuck him up!
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Errgh. I've had a couple Clintons in my life ... little "Well Hello, it's such a pleasure to meet me" PsOS who couldn't take a hint.
Faye's probably right in insisting she deal with it; as barista-in-command, she's responsible at this point for Hanners-maintenance. I foresee mayhem resulting from the "cupcake" comment, though, which was gratuitous on the part of the Pugnacious Peach.
... Actually, the neat twist would be if Hanners handled it on her own before Faye could get there, maybe with a little help, as someone mentioned earlier, from Espressosaurus-2.
Dora, stopping by, won't know exactly what this is, but it won't look good.
Or, you know, whatever Jeph ends up doing.
Hanners fans, by the way, are urged to stay away from Jeph's Tumblr.
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Hands up if you think Clinton is going to leave Coffee of Doom with less appendages than he entered with? :evil:
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Prediction:
Removed by moderator - what part of "no shipping" do you not get?
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Hands up if you think Clinton is going to leave Coffee of Doom with less appendages than he entered with? :evil:
*Raises hand*
Also, said lost appendage(s) will be mounted on the wall in CoD. No exceptions!
That aside, alas poor Clinton, we hardly knew ye. You were just a simple fanboy that did not understand the subtle hints from one of the more polite friends of Hanners. And now he has to get...."introduced" to another good friend of Hanners. The one that's way more sassy and aggressive and Southern. And the one that is more likely to rend him asunder.
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Remember the description of the Malaysian Battle Spatula as "You could lop off a hand with that thing!".
Wow. That seriously blew my mind.
Did anyone else hear Faye say "You want I should break his limbs and face?" in a distinctly mafia accent? Or was that just me?
That is definitely what I do whenever someone asks me a favour and I need to clarify something. "So, what? You want I should put the cups in the dishwasher?"
I just had this image of Dora walking into CoD just as Marten punches a customer in the face.
That made me laugh really hard.
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Hands up if you think Clinton is going to leave Coffee of Doom with less appendages than he entered with? :evil:
**hands raised**
I vote aye!
Any pieces left on the floor are to be stuffed and mounted!
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So, here's how it all goes down:
Marten lops off Clinton's hand with the Malaysian Battle Spatula. Faye beats Clinton to a pulp and lops off his head with the broadsword. The CoD crew mount his skull on their shelves - after all, that's where they put the skulls of their enemies. Hanners feels bad and/or gets grossed out by the blood. She finds a way to download his mind into the robot body her dad sent her, fulfilling Clinton's lifelong dreams...until he finds out that certain parts are still in beta.
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OK, I'll play too:
Clinton is Hannerdad.
Specifically, a robot body tele-operated by Hannerdad from the space station. See, he does care about his main experiment only daughter.
Also, the genetic testing on Marten's blood sample is complete. The results are ...
... No, that would be (space)shipping.
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Hanners mom would probably be the more likely candidate for a call, after which Clinton would disappear never to be seen or heard from again.
I did think of that as a solution myself but I decided against it. Clinton is such a fanboy that I can see him posting somthing to the effect of:
Brilliant news. I got to meet Mrs E-C! She's going to kill me but she did give me her autograph -- Win!!
I don't think violence from the E-C clan would dampen his, or his group's, enthusiasm.
I think he needs to realise that Hannelore is a person with feelings and deserving of true respect.
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I'm sorry, I just can't take Faye seriously when she threatens people with violence. I've known way too many alleged "tough girls" in my day to give any credence to their empty threats of castration or general ass-kicking. At best, all I can offer any girl who does that is a condescending pat on the head while saying, "That's right. You get 'em, tough guy." :roll:
Best case scenario for this situation: Marten grows a pair, pulls the dude aside, grabs his camera, and deftly deletes the picture while saying, "You come around my friend again, I'm calling the cops." Seeing how small this guy is, this is probably Marten's one and only chance to actually look like a badass in front of the girls instead of the limp-wristed indie boy we all know and love.
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Ok, I'll play, too.
The new Faye is a Classy Lady, or a Southern Belle, if you wish. If she needs to give Clinton a violent lesson? Well, I foresee three panels of speed lines interspersed with barely audible grunts. In the last panel there will be a puzzled Hannelore: "I ... didn't know that it is possible to shove a cell phone so deep into ..." But Pintsize will get the last word: "I know just the right message board to post this youtube link."
I really hope that HannerDad won't show up this time. I mean, the odds are in favor of Clinton becoming his protegé anyway.
Other than that I feel BoDJangles is on the right track. Clinton is par for the course, when Jeph's introducing a new character. Something like Marigold squared in awkwardness, but may grow up to be ok in the end.
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Just to say something about the art...
Wow, I really love Marten's face in the last panel. He has that annoyed, "I think I might want to kill you" face going on, and it's pretty clear. His face just looks real nice. Faye too, in that panel.
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I'm sorry, I just can't take Faye seriously when she threatens people with violence.
Owls.
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I can see Marten stepping up to tell Clinton to back off, and Faye gently pulling him back before he can do so. Without an acceptable target to vent out that anger, Marten turns on Faye...just as Dora/Angus/Someone else walks in to hear Faye getting a bollocking from Marten. (and no, not that kind you bloody perverts)
Cue Marten getting barred from Coffee of Doom (if its Dora)/Punched in the face (if its Angus)/someone else's jaw cracking the floor in Coffee of Doom (if its someone else)
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all I can offer any girl who does that is a condescending pat on the head
Er, I think your sexism is showing.
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all I can offer any girl who does that is a condescending pat on the head
Er, I think your sexism is showing.
Either that or, like Dilbert after a visit to the PHB's office, he doesn't want them to leave empty-headed.
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Er, I think your sexism is showing.
I know. But seriously -- how can you even feel the slightest bit threatened by someone who has a fifth of your strength and nearly half of your weight? It'd be the same if some 120lb, 5'6'' guy started threatening to beat my ass. It's little dog syndrome: all bark and no bite.
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I can see Marten stepping up to tell Clinton to back off, and Faye gently pulling him back before he can do so. Without an acceptable target to vent out that anger, Marten turns on Faye...just as Dora/Angus/Someone else walks in to hear Faye getting a bollocking from Marten. (and no, not that kind you bloody perverts)
Cue Marten getting barred from Coffee of Doom (if its Dora)/Punched in the face (if its Angus)/someone else's jaw cracking the floor in Coffee of Doom (if its someone else)
While I can see Marty getting a little mad at Faye holding him back, he probably wouldn't mention it while the "threat" is still around (yes I mean Clinton). He'd probably bring it up later once they were back at their apartment. I don't think he will though, once he sees what Faye does to the bionic buttmunch.
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Hoooo-boy, mr Creepy better be kidding about the remark concerning the message board, otherwise he's cruisin for bruisin' , so to say. If not from the newfound Marten The Librarian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZHoHaAYHq8) (i know, bad joke, couldn't resist, sorrysorrysorry, pleasedontkillme), then maybe from the sassy southern belle, who has (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=783), although some time ago, dealth with annoyance using some force.
Hanners mom would probably be the more likely candidate for a call, after which Clinton would disappear never to be seen or heard from again.
Bwahaha! I like the way you think, good sir.
*grins evilly and tips hat politely*
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I can see Marten stepping up to tell Clinton to back off, and Faye gently pulling him back before he can do so. Without an acceptable target to vent out that anger, Marten turns on Faye...just as Dora/Angus/Someone else walks in to hear Faye getting a bollocking from Marten. (and no, not that kind you bloody perverts)
Cue Marten getting barred from Coffee of Doom (if its Dora)/Punched in the face (if its Angus)/someone else's jaw cracking the floor in Coffee of Doom (if its someone else)
Marten turning on Faye? I don't see it at all.
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Er, I think your sexism is showing.
I know. But seriously -- how can you even feel the slightest bit threatened by someone who has a fifth of your strength and nearly half of your weight? It'd be the same if some 120lb, 5'6'' guy started threatening to beat my ass. It's little dog syndrome: all bark and no bite.
Well, you know your female friends, but by now you should also know Faye (or maybe you need more archiving). She has demonstrated the ability to back up that bark on more than one occasion, in particular by throwing Angus (who is considerably larger than Clinton) across a bar.
Besides, it's Clinton, he's what, 5'3" and 100 lbs sopping wet?
I think Faye can handle him.
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someone who has a fifth of your strength and nearly half of your weight
If that represents your generic view of all females, you are over-generalising by a huge amount. In any case, blind faith in superior physical force can be misplaced.
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Hanners saying h-Hey is probably my favorite part of the strip. I still think Marten is going to be the one to deal with Clinton.
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I am hoping to see Dora come in and chase the creep out of her store. That could also give Marten and Dora some common ground to be friends on, protecting Hanners.
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God, I screamed like a woman the very moment I opened to page and saw the first panel.
I thought the last panel was really awesome.
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Whoa, what the hell. Why is Marten taking another level in badass (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass) all of a sudden? I didn't even get time to recover from the last one. And since Marten already got his shine in the 'protect Hanners' spotlight, I think it's reasonable to expect some Faye on Clinton action...
Pretty sure it is far less "taking another level in badass" and more "having a convenient outlet for venting all of his frustrations" or "projecting all of his built up anger on the easy target".
"You never had to take a level in badass, Marten! The badass was inside you all along!"
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I wouldn't mind seeing Hanners take care of Clinton herself, with stunned responses from Marten and Faye. Maybe just a shot of Clinton flying out the front door, cutting to Hanners coming out of fugue state, and at the end Faye telling her "You have learned well, young padawan."
We still don't know enough about Hanners' Dad to know how he'd react to Clinton, but clueless Clint might need to watch out in case Doc Ellicott happens to be a nuke-em-from-orbit type. (I'm not sure which character is more clueless/oblivious, Clinton or Padma.)
Marten's grr face = awesome.
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"You never had to take a level in badass, Marten! The badass was inside you all along!"
The unintentional innuendo is just...I can't even...
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Hanners mom would probably be the more likely candidate for a call, after which Clinton would disappear never to be seen or heard from again.
Are you implying "Jumping the Shark?" Or that one Simpson's episode?
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Hands up if you think Clinton is going to leave Coffee of Doom with less appendages than he entered with? :evil:
Yes! Because he's going to fire his rocket-fist at Faye and then run like a motherfucker, thus preserving his non-consensual photo. He can always get a replacement hand.
Ok, I'll play, too.
The new Faye is a Classy Lady, or a Southern Belle, if you wish. If she needs to give Clinton a violent lesson? Well, I foresee three panels of speed lines interspersed with barely audible grunts. In the last panel there will be a puzzled Hannelore: "I ... didn't know that it is possible to shove a cell phone so deep into ..." But Pintsize will get the last word: "I know just the right message board to post this youtube link."
Except you know this won't happen now. With rare exceptions, scenarios that appear in the forum don't manifest in the comic. Hence my despair of my chances of seeing the rocket-fist maneuver.
Can anyone tell me if Mazinger or any of the Getter 'bots actually did that in the animations? Might be worth purchasing the DVDs to see.
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Er, I think your sexism is showing.
I know. But seriously -- how can you even feel the slightest bit threatened by someone who has a fifth of your strength and nearly half of your weight? It'd be the same if some 120lb, 5'6'' guy started threatening to beat my ass. It's little dog syndrome: all bark and no bite.
Well, you know your female friends, but by now you should also know Faye (or maybe you need more archiving). She has demonstrated the ability to back up that bark on more than one occasion, in particular by throwing Angus (who is considerably larger than Clinton) across a bar.
Besides, it's Clinton, he's what, 5'3" and 100 lbs sopping wet?
I think Faye can handle him.
you give Faye too much credit. yes shes demonstrated that shes willing to back up her threats but so much of it is over exaggerated to the point of absurdity. hell, the record for dwarf tossing is 11feet5 inches, you really think Faye, who is in none-too-great physical condition could throw a full grown man(Angus) across a bar? that being said ive no doubt she'd stand up for hanners but its just...boring...at this point. let marten show his stuff for once. doesnt mean he has to become a he-man all of a sudden but itd be a nice change of pace
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I'm not gonna worry about shark-jumping unless Jeph introduces a character who looks like Ted McGinley.
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Looks like it's Marten's turn to clean the blood off the floor.
If Clinton gets outta there with anything less than a black eye and a limp, it's gonna be a miracle.
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" It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. "
My future wife drove off a would-be rapist almost a foot taller than she was, armed with nothing but a bottle of laundry detergent.
Faye's been working out.
Clinton's in trouble.
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I'm surprised nobody's pointed out that now we know for certain he has a human arm, and only his hand is metal (although it looks like there's some sort of switch on his wrist).
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And said arm appears to have the same thickness as my 11 year old's.
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Although as far as we know, it could be made of adamantium (and covered in skin).
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I'm surprised nobody's pointed out that now we know for certain he has a human arm, and only his hand is metal (although it looks like there's some sort of switch on his wrist).
I think the bit in his wrist is a charging point.
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Would be a nice change of pace to have Marten go "No Faye, I've got this" and then actually deal effectively with Clinton, with Faye and Hanners looking on wide-eyed in disbelief. But I don't see his "skinny wimpy indie-boy" status being changed that dramatically anytime soon, if ever.
Either Faye or Hanners herself is gonna end up dealing with Clinton. Never Marten.
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I'm surprised nobody's pointed out that now we know for certain he has a human arm, and only his hand is metal (although it looks like there's some sort of switch on his wrist).
I think the bit in his wrist is a charging point.
I thought it was where the hand attaches to the arm. Charging kinda makes more sense though.
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all I can offer any girl who does that is a condescending pat on the head
Er, I think your sexism is showing.
Either that or, like Dilbert after a visit to the PHB's office, he doesn't want them to leave empty-headed.
Funny you should mention Dilbert... (http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/im_a_what/)
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Would be a nice change of pace to have Marten go "No Faye, I've got this" and then actually deal effectively with Clinton, with Faye and Hanners looking on wide-eyed in disbelief.
Faye and Marten (and Hanners if she can deal with the touching and the blood) should team-hit Clinton. As somebody once said: "If the fight is fair, you're doing it wrong." :angel:
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Plus nothing builds a spirit of teamwork and unit cohesion like kicking the living crap out of a creepy motherfucker!
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Been reading Questionable Content for the past two years or so. Clinton is like the first character I can relate to mainly because he's the biggest loser and it seems like everyone hates him. If something bad happens to him, I will stop reading this comic. I'm really tired of bad things happening to characters I can relate to.
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Hoo boy did I laugh at the last panel.
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If something bad happens to him, I will stop reading this comic.
Yeah, we'll, uh...we'll miss you (http://209.85.12.237/30004/116/0/e5035321//e5035321.gif)
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Just wanted to show that there is a Clinton sympathizer out there. :)
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OK, one last wildass guess before Jeph starts drawing: Hanners takes care of business with no bloodshed. Marten and Faye gain new respect for their upstairs friend.
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Clinton's not that bad a guy, he just has no concept of proper social boundaries. He needs some social...readjustment, which he's on the verge of getting, in a rather violent manner. But as others have pointed out, thumping him may not be enough to educate him-he'll just be wondering why people are doing random violence to him for no apparent reason and conclude that everyone else is crazy. Probably nothing less than the object of his obsession herself giving him a proper talking to (read: shouting at) will suffice.
Let's see if Hanners is up to the job...
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lol I like where this is going
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I am hoping to see Dora come in and chase the creep out of her store. That could also give Marten and Dora some common ground to be friends on, protecting Hanners.
You beat me to it!
I like this scenario - it could, handled with Jeph's usual skill and creativity, be a really comforting, healing moment, after that painful period not so long ago. . .
The core cast reuniting to set some creep straight and reaffirm their abiding friendship... it brings a happy tear to my eye ... :cry:
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
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Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Sooo.. just wanted to get that out of my system.
Carry on : >
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M: Alright, Clinton, you're on probation, but one false move and Faye here is gonna have lots of fun tonight!
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Goddammit, stop complaining about the fans that obsess over Hannelore and then making her so dang moe!
That was a fine twist though, making Clinton so sympathetic. He's still creepy though, given he had a day to make this revelation before getting to the coffeeshop, but better while tied to a chair than while watching Faye dig his grave to bury him alive. Plus, he really needs to lose the caught-in-a-windstorm look.
Also, we have our line of the week, I believe.
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Been reading Questionable Content for the past two years or so. Clinton is like the first character I can relate to mainly because he's the biggest loser and it seems like everyone hates him. If something bad happens to him, I will stop reading this comic. I'm really tired of bad things happening to characters I can relate to.
You... might wanna work on that one, chief.
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Hooo boy
Do we have a Techie version of Wil here?
And what does that forebode for Hanners?
As for Clinton's explanation - Que sad tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uS5xPWfxPY
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Clinton is the master of pathos.
I wish I could have a metal hand and mastery over pathos. Though I'd use my powers for good, rather than stalking. Like strangling criminals with my metal grip, then giving impassioned pleas to a jury for release.
Ya know... hypothetically :roll:
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A combination of my recent pictures list, Paint, and 5 minutes rendered this.(http://i52.tinypic.com/b5f7rt.jpg)
Really, she could be shopped into anything depicting something sad.
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Just wanted to show that there is a Clinton sympathizer out there. :)
Sympathy is a fair response, but you can see why his actions aren't acceptable, right? Jeph isn't as mean as us and there probably won't be as much face-stomping as some of us would like (or pretend we'd like), but he's a stalker and can't expect a hero's welcome.
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Haaaaanners and Clinton!
Sooo.. just wanted to get that out of my system.
Carry on : >
NOOOOOOOO. Wouldn't work. She probably spent her childhood surrounded by that kind of guy; the fact that she's hanging out with her current friends shows a lot of personal growth, and to step back into her dad's world would be a total regression.
(I realise you were probably partly joking, I'm just pre-empting shippers here!)
Also, don't untie him, he needs to learn.
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D'awwww, I knew this was going to end well. I also knew that her dad had something to do with Clinton's hand.
This comic remains me of this violin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAlTOfl9F2w&NR=1)
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so does... does this mean no rocket punch?
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Ninja'd! And I knew there would be no rocket-fist. *sigh*
Of course, Skewbrow was wrong, too. Wonder who ducked Clinton?
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"... you never let me murder anybody !"
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I dont even know which SMILEY to use on that one.
Maybe its because I didnt get much sleep, but this is a bit over the top.
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"... you never let me murder anybody !"
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I dont even know which SMILEY to use on that one.
Maybe its because I didnt get much sleep, but this is a bit over the top.
Definitely not enough sleep; murderin' annoying /creepy/stupid customers has been a running joke at CoD basically since Faye first showed up.
Besides, wouldn't it have been worse if she'd said they "hardly ever let [her] murder anyone (any more)?"
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so does... does this mean no rocket punch?
Look, man, don't come to Questionable Content looking for awesome. That isn't what this comic is about (for that you go to something like Dr. McNinja, or AxeCop if you can stand the stupid), this comic is about scratching your schadenfreude itch.
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A combination of my recent pictures list, Paint, and 5 minutes rendered this.(http://i52.tinypic.com/b5f7rt.jpg)
Really, she could be shopped into anything depicting something sad.
(http://www.japanprobe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/this-is-quite-scary.jpg)
Your photoshop skills are weak grasshopper.
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you give Faye too much credit. yes shes demonstrated that shes willing to back up her threats but so much of it is over exaggerated to the point of absurdity. you really think Faye, who is in none-too-great physical condition could throw a full grown man(Angus) across a bar?
Uhm.. Yes? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=783) :evil:
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@Raoullefere: Don't lose any sleep over the failed prediction. I should ftp you some of my favorite Scotch, so we can GOMiserate.
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Uhm.. Yes? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=783) :evil:
Good Lord... I know it takes ages for serious plot developments to occur in QC, but I didn't realise that Angus first gave Faye his phone number in 2005. That is a long payoff.
Hanners and Clinton/Marten/Sven/Marigold/Tai/Cosette/Pintsize for 2015?
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@Raoullefere: Don't lose any sleep over the failed prediction. I should ftp you some of my favorite Scotch, so we can GOMiserate.
Yes. We can sing:
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
Not with a rocket-punch,
Nor with off-stage action and battle-grunts,
but with duck-tape.
For thine is the comic.
Amen.
An anthem if ever I saw one.
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Alright I guess I can give him a little slack. I couldn't imagine life without a hand.
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You can ftp scotch?
I've been working on faxable pizza since the 1990's. I guess the liquid can travel through the wires easier?
Ya gotta let me in on the secret!
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Clinton's not that bad a guy, he just has no concept of proper social boundaries. He needs some social...readjustment,
Perhaps an attitude adjustment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwlm9cxbY_M) :evil:
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D'awww.
I'd still shoot the creepy fecker anyway.
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Hanners is too much of a softy.
Dad hears of this and Clinton's hand will suddenly stop working.
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Hanners is too much of a softy.
Dad hears of this and Clinton's hand will suddenly stop working.
Or if Hannerdad is anything like Ms. Chatham, then i'd predict something like:
"Hmm, i've never noticed that little numeric display over there. Uh oh, why did it start a countdown? Ohhh sh-----"
Though it seems that Clinton did realize, how creepy he actually was (or at least it seems so). So, despite the creepiness/overzealousness of the interview incident & faux pas with the picture, in some weird way.. D'aaaaawwwww :|
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I find it a pleasant change of pace that Marten is the one doing the yelling in this instance. While Faye is the one using the threat of violence, unmistakably bad cop, Marten is a more neutral variant who is still willing to slip Faye off her leash at any moment.
Too bad Hanners is such a softie and Marten's a softie for our little moe mascot. Anyway, progress, of sorts!
....now please get the hell out of CoD, Marten.
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I am hoping to see Dora come in and chase the creep out of her store. That could also give Marten and Dora some common ground to be friends on, protecting Hanners.
Or, with her typical logic and rationalizaton, she'll walk in and be all "SEE, THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU TRY AND COME BACK, YOUR AURA ATTRACTS THIS CREEP. GET OUT OF HERE AND DON'T COME BACK" -exboyfriendhatred-
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Hurrah for redemption! As long as Clinton can manage not to be a fanboy/creep too much anymore, I kinda like him. Mostly the fact that he has a robot hand, I guess, but whatever.
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....now please get the hell out of CoD, Marten.
Uh....why should he? Even if by chance Dora stops in later he's got a right to be there. Like he said, it's been weeks, and he wanted to talk to her anyway; the first thing he did when he came in was ask if Dora was there.
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If Hannelore is moe, does that make Marten larry and Faye curly?
Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck, nyuck, nyuck. Wooop!
:-D
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If Hannelore is moe, does that make Marten larry and Faye curly?
Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck, nyuck, nyuck. Wooop!
:-D
*badumtish*
Anyhew, Clinton...pat yourself on the back. You just dodged a tactical nuke to the face. Now run before the next salvo can be armed. You have NO idea how thin the ice you are standing on has just become.
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A good way to get rid of Clinton. Have Hannelore ask her dad to hire him.
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A good way to get rid of Clinton. Have Hannelore ask her dad to hannerdad actually hire him.
*** OVERTHETOP NERDGASM***
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Chances of head-explosion: moderate to good.
And this time it will finally be Faye's turn to clean up the blood.
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Quote from iduguphergrave
Even if by chance Dora stops in later he's got a right to be there. Like he said, it's been weeks, and he wanted to talk to her anyway; the first thing he did when he came in was ask if Dora was there.
Eh. Dora owns the business and I'm assuming the space she rents is privately owned by another. Not sure what's the case in Massachusetts but an Ohio business has the right to say: "And stay out."
Not that I hope that happens, though I can see the internal logic of the strip and Dora's character-makeup leading there. Still and all, I hope Marten's paying for the latte. A paying customer can at least demand a little respect, even from CoD, or go elsewhere.
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I really hoped Clinton was a vehicle for every creepy and annoying Hanners fan and really hoped he'd be unceremoniously shamed or hurt, but if he gets redemption I will conclude that Jeph actually enjoys people obsessing over Hannelore.
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Faye's reaction in the last panel reminded me of this comic: http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030905h.gif (http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030905h.gif)
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This talk of "Hannerdad" makes me think of Dilbert (Dilmom, Catbert, Dogbert, Diltown in the cartoon, etc.).
Don't take this as comparing Jeph Jacques to Scott Adams's doucheyness, I meant nothing but what was said in the parentheses.
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Hanners is too much of a softy.
Dad hears of this and Clinton's hand will suddenly stop working.
I'd be more afraid of it trying to strangle him or have a rather extreme version of 'stop hitting yourself'
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eviil dead 2?
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Groovy.
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Hanners is too much of a softy.
Dad hears of this and Clinton's hand will suddenly stop working.
I'd be more afraid of it trying to strangle him or have a rather extreme version of 'stop hitting yourself'
....and that brings us back to the Dr. Strangelove scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59YKlP--PhU) I mentioned before. Just watch the hand...
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Aw man, how could I have forgotten Dr. Strangelove? I was thinking Tembo's arm (grafted onto Bill) in Harry Harrison's "Bill The Galactic Hero."
On a side note:
Dora: "Look, we can't just kidnap customers and tie them up. We charge extra for that."
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interesting to see how passionately indignant the boards are after every perceived social infraction against a main character (from Dora "warmth vampiring" Faye to Clinton taking the picture) but there's almost no comment when several felonies (kidnapping, wrongful imprisonment, terroristic threats, assault with a deadly weapon*) are committed against the new punching bag.
*depending on jurisdiction, they don't have to actually use it, just threatening with it is enough.
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Because he's the punching bag. No one cares what happens to him.
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nobody except you know, the law. seriously, one phone call and Marten/Faye could be going away for a while.
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Oh c'mon, this is the North Hampton PD (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1389) we're talking about...
And wasn't there another one where the cops were offering a beer and/or hotboxing the squad car?
Or am I getting it confused with another webcomic?
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Remember, the QC universe is much stranger than the one we live in. Considering the way Clinton just accepts being tied up instead of shouting threats of arrest, this could just be common practice in the QC universe. Isn't it in COD's business plan to treat their customers like shit?
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There is law and there is justice. And, yes, the QC/Northampton PD do carry brewskies in the trunks of their hotboxed cruisers, as the VespAvenger can attest.
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*depending on jurisdiction, they don't have to actually use it, just threatening with it is enough.
In Massachusetts, believe me, they are very hard on that. Broadswords don't come up very often - I think - but kitchen knives...
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Its a comic where the cops offered Marten a cold one or some weed after arresting a psychotic woman who had just had the crap beaten out of her with her own helmet.
Given how the QC cops work, they'd probably give Marten and Faye a round of applause.
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Is it time to invoke the "with all the LITTLE ROBOTS RUNNING AROUND" argument?
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Oh c'mon, this is the North Hampton PD (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1389) we're talking about...
And wasn't there another one where the cops were offering a beer and/or hotboxing the squad car?
Or am I getting it confused with another webcomic?
O'Malley was hotboxing the squad car on the way back to the precinct house. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=749)
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Quote from iduguphergrave
Even if by chance Dora stops in later he's got a right to be there. Like he said, it's been weeks, and he wanted to talk to her anyway; the first thing he did when he came in was ask if Dora was there.
Eh. Dora owns the business and I'm assuming the space she rents is privately owned by another. Not sure what's the case in Massachusetts but an Ohio business has the right to say: "And stay out." Not that I hope that happens, though I can see the internal logic of the strip and Dora's character-makeup leading there.
I don't. Yeah, legally she probably could, but I don't see why she WOULD. As exit lines go, "It's been wonderful sweetie, but we should call it quits" is hardly "I HATE YOU YOU ****ING ####### AND NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN! GO DIE IN A DITCH!". To boot, she seemed to be on a relatively even keel the last few times we saw her, and they still have plenty of mutual friends (Faye & Hanners being the most obvious two).
It'd be awkward, but "uh, so how've you been."/"oh, you know" sort of awkward, not "eye-daggers at twenty paces" awkward.
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Not saying Dora is violently opposed to Marten, or would necessarily make him into a bad guy to justify her feelings. Just saying it's not unrealistic to think she wouldn't want him in her shop ... And would have a legal right to insist he honor that. And restating, I hope it doesn't go that way.
EDITED to remove gratuitous snark I regret making.
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You would be surprised how willing people can be to justify dumping someone by making that ex into an awful person in their own mind, especially if they're unwilling to really look into their own part in the breakup (besides, y'know, the dumping). Especially if the ex was a decent person who treated them well, and they're feeling real guilt about dumping them because of that, but yet are unwilling to take them back.
Just because we haven't seen Dora saying anything like that doesn't mean she hasn't been thinking it. And who would she discuss it with anyway? Anyone she could talk to also knows Marten and would be quick to jump to his defense if she started spouting nonsense about what a bad boyfriend he was.
Of course, if anyone has reason to be pissed and to never speak to an ex again, it's Marten. But he's there at CoD trying to open a dialog, so...
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You would be surprised how willing people can be to justify dumping someone by making that ex into an awful person in their own mind, especially if they're unwilling to really look into their own part in the breakup (besides, y'know, the dumping). Especially if the ex was a decent person who treated them well, and they're feeling real guilt about dumping them because of that, but yet are unwilling to take them back.
Just because we haven't seen Dora saying anything like that doesn't mean she hasn't been thinking it. And who would she discuss it with anyway? Anyone she could talk to also knows Marten and would be quick to jump to his defense if she started spouting nonsense about what a bad boyfriend he was.
Of course, if anyone has reason to be pissed and to never speak to an ex again, it's Marten. But he's there at CoD trying to open a dialog, so...
You're making Dora sound like a possible BPD case.
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I want Clinton to have a twitter account, I do.
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Just realized: we have no data about how Dora deals with exes! We never saw any of her previous boyfriends.
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I'm not saying Dora's like this at all, but I have seen people do that, essentially demonize a decent ex to justify dumping them. Especially when the dumper is seriously in the wrong, for example they cheated or something like that. It's often easier to blame the other person than own up to their own mistakes.
Dora's at least trying to own up to her part in the breakup-but the aftermath of her first therapy session shows she's got a ways to go. EDIT: you're right Is It Cold, we've never heard Dora mention how she deals with exes, but the fact that she doesn't talk about them much, what her brother said about the kind of guys they were, along with us never having seen any of them, leads me to think she most likely is NOT friends with any of them, and would probably be happy to never see any of them again.
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You mean she's not?
You would be surprised how willing people can be to justify dumping someone by making that ex into an awful person in their own mind, especially if they're unwilling to really look into their own part in the breakup (besides, y'know, the dumping). Especially if the ex was a decent person who treated them well, and they're feeling real guilt about dumping them because of that, but yet are unwilling to take them back.
Just because we haven't seen Dora saying anything like that doesn't mean she hasn't been thinking it. And who would she discuss it with anyway? Anyone she could talk to also knows Marten and would be quick to jump to his defense if she started spouting nonsense about what a bad boyfriend he was.
Of course, if anyone has reason to be pissed and to never speak to an ex again, it's Marten. But he's there at CoD trying to open a dialog, so...
You're making Dora sound like a possible BPD case.
You mean she's not?
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Shortpacked guest strip.
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How dare he have a loved one fall ill or injured?
(Seriously, though, I do hope everything turns out ok, Jeph)
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If the borderline I knew is anything to go by, Dora is miles away from being that screwed up.
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Just realized: we have no data about how Dora deals with exes! We never saw any of her previous boyfriends.
Maybe she actually "deals with them". Don't wander far from the protection of Faye's broadsword, Marten! (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14073868/pictures/emotes/emot-ohdear.png)
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LOL, more likely she just doesn't talk to them. A more boring explanation I know, but better than her being homicidal to her exes.
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She doesn't talk to them because they are no longer able to speak...Mr. Anderson.
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I can't locate it, but I swear Sven told Marten a little bit about Dora's exes. They were assholes and messed her around, right? I think that's all we know.
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argh....guest comic on a day with an awesome comic incoming :(
damn you jeph...how dare you be a human and have health issues
anyway...get well soon
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bUTTS dISEASE!?!?!
mOAR LIEK bUTTSlol dISEASE!!!! AMIRITE?!?!?!
(I am not right. also, I stole this gag from Jeph Jaques himself.)
Get Well Soon.
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She doesn't talk to them because they are no longer able to speak...Mr. Anderson.
*** Major LMAO ***
That would take some serious magic on Dora's part though. She's not permitted in her new digs.
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Get well soon Jeph.
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Jeph did, in fact, do a comic for today as well: http://jephjacques.tumblr.com/post/4831327146/hospital-comix
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So from now on QC will consist of nothing but butts? Well, Faye should turn out okay at least.
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Ehh....could have been worse.
At least it wasn't "Dicks Syndrome".
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Dicks syndrome? Ask and ye shall receive (http://achewood.com/index.php?date=09072007). (NSFW, I suppose. Not outrageously so.)
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Excellent Guest Strip
Get well soon Mr. Jacques.
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Eh. Dora owns the business and I'm assuming the space she rents is privately owned by another. Not sure what's the case in Massachusetts but an Ohio business has the right to say: "And stay out." Not that I hope that happens, though I can see the internal logic of the strip and Dora's character-makeup leading there.
I don't. Yeah, legally she probably could, but I don't see why she WOULD. As exit lines go, "It's been wonderful sweetie, but we should call it quits" is hardly "I HATE YOU YOU ****ING ####### AND NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN! GO DIE IN A DITCH!". To boot, she seemed to be on a relatively even keel the last few times we saw her, and they still have plenty of mutual friends (Faye & Hanners being the most obvious two).
It'd be awkward, but "uh, so how've you been."/"oh, you know" sort of awkward, not "eye-daggers at twenty paces" awkward.
I think it would still be consistent if Dora went all "I'm sorry Marten, I'm not ready for this talk yet. Could you please avoid coming here for now? I'll contact you when I'm ready." Marten would comply, because he's the kind to leave people space (a bit too much at times, to his own detriment, but that's not the point).
Then, Dora being Dora, and prone to let panic take the best out of her, she'll cower from initiating that talk for MONTHS, to the point that Faye has to physically threaten her.
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If Hannelore is moe, does that make Marten larry and Faye curly?
That occurred to me too, but I decided to take the high road...
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I think it would still be consistent if Dora went all "I'm sorry Marten, I'm not ready for this talk yet. Could you please avoid coming here for now? I'll contact you when I'm ready." Marten would comply, because he's the kind to leave people space (a bit too much at times, to his own detriment, but that's not the point).
Then, Dora being Dora, and prone to let panic take the best out of her, she'll cower from initiating that talk for MONTHS, to the point that Faye has to physically threaten her.
In all fairness, Dora wouldn't even say "I'm not ready for this talk yet." She'd just make some sort of excuse and leave it at that. Its what she does if she comes across a problem. Dora runs away, or makes promises she has no intention of keeping just to get people off her back. (Example, the underpants hug incident where Dora promises Marten she'll work on her trust issues, only she doesn't and 50 pages later we get the Break-Uptm, with no sign of Dora trying to make any change in her attitude or with her issues).
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Its what she does if she comes across a problem. Dora runs away, or makes promises she has no intention of keeping just to get people off her back.
I think it's more that she makes promises she intends to keep at the moment, THEN runs away from keeping them.
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I think it would still be consistent if Dora went all "I'm sorry Marten, I'm not ready for this talk yet. Could you please avoid coming here for now? I'll contact you when I'm ready." Marten would comply, because he's the kind to leave people space (a bit too much at times, to his own detriment, but that's not the point).
Then, Dora being Dora, and prone to let panic take the best out of her, she'll cower from initiating that talk for MONTHS, to the point that Faye has to physically threaten her.
And the way things go, by the time Dora finally gets around to contacting Marten again, Marten will have gotten used to not having her around, will have mostly gotten over her, and HE will be the one who doesn't want to be bothered. He had to psych himself up to go into CoD remember? It'll be easier for him if Dora blows him off, and if she keeps blowing him off with lame excuses, Marten could come to the conclusion that Dora really doesn't want to see him again, and so will drop yet another ex completely from his life. If you really think about it, neither of them really HAVE to see each other again, Marten stays out of CoD, Dora stays away from Marten's apartment. Hanners and Faye would just have to accept the change in their social circles.
Or Faye will have to force them both to meet up together at swordpoint.
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What gets me is, if she's so insecure about relationships, how in the world does that translate into her owning a (relatively successful) business? I mean, yeah, we don't see many customers at CoD (except after the Indie Rag review), but if the place is still up and running, it means that she must be doing something right.
I know, it's not the same thing, but personal insecurities do have a way of cropping up at inopportune times at work and in other situations.
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There are some strips that show how she worries about CoD's future.
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I'd like to point out that Marten and Faye tying Clinton to a chair and threatening him with a sword is HELLA ILLEGAL.
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Stalking someone is also kind of illegal as well.
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I'd like to point out that Marten and Faye tying Clinton to a chair and threatening him with a sword is HELLA ILLEGAL.
No more so than stalking someone and causing them distress. And besides, Faye is a barista, I'm sure threatening someone with deadly force and with a deadly weapon is part of the job description.
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I'd like to point out that Marten and Faye tying Clinton to a chair and threatening him with a sword is HELLA ILLEGAL.
No more so than stalking someone and causing them distress. And besides, Faye is a barista, I'm sure threatening someone with deadly force and with a deadly weapon is part of the job description.
Sure, sure...but in fiction we all know "WHY DOES NOBODY EVER GO TO THE POLICE?"
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Because in fiction, the cops are useless, and are most likely amongst the first to die when brought into a situation (somewhere between the "first girl" and the bad comic relief").
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More like redshirts (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt). In a police drama, where there are major characters, it's the little beat cops or the unnamed guys on patrol that wind up getting sacrificed. In a non-police drama, they're just effing useless (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PoliceAreUseless), something for the protagonists to easily outwit.
Besides, they're busy sitting at speed traps, writing parking tickets, and responding to "domestic disturbances". They'll never notice protagonists breaking the law...
Edit: added some links for ya. Happy easter!
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I'm not defending Clinton, but is going to see someone at a public place actually illegal? I think you guys are overdoing it with the whole "HOLY SHIT STALKING IS A FELONY AND THAT IS WHAT CLINTON IS DOING". The most they could really get him for is trespassing, if they ask him to leave and he doesn't, but only if they hadn't tied him up and prevented him from leaving.
(I'm not saying we should be all "HOLY SHIT KIDNAPPING IS A FELONY" either. In fact, we should be uniting in solidarity, and hoping that Jeph recovers from his Butts)
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I'm not defending Clinton, but is going to see someone at a public place actually illegal?
Perhaps not, but finding out where she worked via Twitter and coming after her that way can be seen as a form of e-stalking.
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Hannelore should be grateful that being creepy is legal.
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Yeah would be kinda hypocritical of her to file charges against Clinton after stalking Marten when they first met...