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Title: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2011, 19:03
I just realized.  Friday's comic would've been so awesome if Mieville had an exclamation mark too, when he noticed the moth in panel two.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Delirium on 30 Apr 2011, 20:33
I just realized.  Friday's comic would've been so awesome if Mieville had an exclamation mark too, when he noticed the moth in panel two.
Sometimes going for the obvious references isn't the best thing to do. I'm frankly surprised he didn't.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 30 Apr 2011, 22:42
I just realized.  Friday's comic would've been so awesome if Mieville had an exclamation mark too, when he noticed the moth in panel two.

At the risk of getting beaten by a sign wielding language police: "This!"

BTW, like your avatar. One of the best Pintsize costumes ever. IIRC somebody else on the forum used it a while back, but since he/she has been inactive (or has switched to another icon since then?), surely you can claim the dibs.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 30 Apr 2011, 22:47
if Mieville had an exclamation mark too, when he noticed the moth in panel two.

But then, to keep the parallel construction going, Tai would've had to have been doing something to Faye (or Dora) in panel 4 that would have been much more difficult to figleaf.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2011, 00:05
I just realized.  Friday's comic would've been so awesome if Mieville had an exclamation mark too, when he noticed the moth in panel two.
Sometimes going for the obvious references isn't the best thing to do. I'm frankly surprised he didn't.
But...he did.  I mean, there's only one exclamation mark, but it's still a very obvious reference.  And it's still funny. And thanks, Skew!  I've only been here a couple months, so I don't think I've seen that user.  Anyway, I figured I'd use a Pintsize avatar, so I found this comic and cropped it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Delirium on 01 May 2011, 00:15
I just realized.  Friday's comic would've been so awesome if Mieville had an exclamation mark too, when he noticed the moth in panel two.
Sometimes going for the obvious references isn't the best thing to do. I'm frankly surprised he didn't.
But...he did.  I mean, there's only one exclamation mark, but it's still a very obvious reference.  And it's still funny. And thanks, Skew!  I've only been here a couple months, so I don't think I've seen that user.  Anyway, I figured I'd use a Pintsize avatar, so I found this comic and cropped it.
huh. thank you for pointing that out. it was prominent, but in a blind spot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: celticgeek on 01 May 2011, 21:39
Nothing like driving Miss Faye and discussing your love life at the same time. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: horsefish on 01 May 2011, 21:42
Am I wrong, or is this the first QC strip to take place in a car?  Strikes me a s kinda Seinfeldy. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 May 2011, 21:50
We saw the Pugnacious Peach in Pennelope's car on the way to the gym.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Near Lurker on 01 May 2011, 21:56
Ah, Main Street Northampton, a magical place.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 01 May 2011, 22:01
Two red lights?! That's not just deep in thought...$10 says Tai's stoned on something.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Near Lurker on 01 May 2011, 22:06
From what we've seen of her so far, that's no bet at all.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DSL on 01 May 2011, 22:10
Faye's had One Of Those Days, hasn't she?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 May 2011, 22:21
She's apparently a forgiving sort today.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 01 May 2011, 22:29
She's apparently a forgiving sort today.

Surely even Faye isn't crazy enough to physically attack her driver.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Boomslang on 01 May 2011, 22:30
Is there a reason Faye is riding with Tai? Not sure if one was mentioned, but I suppose it could just be convenience. Dora's place is fairly remote in Northhampton units.

I am glad that Faye is being pretty reasonable here, not her previous, punches-for-everything self. I mean, presumably even Clinton lived through his hand's misdeeds.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SJCrew on 01 May 2011, 22:32
Still not aboard the Tai/Dora train, but Tai's a pretty cool chick and I'd rather not see her hurt. Let her down gently Dora, +1 respect points.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: guayec on 01 May 2011, 22:52
I hate Tai and I want her to go.  :oops: Sorry.

PS: I recently suspended my driving exam and I just don't get it! I drive better than sooooo many Tais around the city!  :x
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 01 May 2011, 22:53
I am glad that Faye is being pretty reasonable here, not her previous, punches-for-everything self. I mean, presumably even Clinton lived through his hand's misdeeds.

I really thought that Faye's reaction would be something like that to "protect Marten or whatever". I'm quite surprised.
I really don't care about how things will end up but I really want Marten to not get hurt anymore. The kid has gone through too many things now imo.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: sluthy on 01 May 2011, 22:54
Am I wrong, or is this the first QC strip to take place in a car?

I asked that in the live feed and I was reminded of this bit with Amanda (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=609).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: snubnose on 01 May 2011, 23:37
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May 2, 2011 12:35am

Comic!
Yay !
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Sorflakne on 01 May 2011, 23:47
I've only ever ran a stop sign (the few red lights I've run don't count due to it being icy), but man did that cop ever appear out of nowhere within a nanosecond to slap me with a $170 ticket.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 01 May 2011, 23:47
While I do agree that Faye would want to protect Marten, I think that's not the priority in this situation.  Marten seems to actually be surviving okay after his initial depression, and as has been debated in many a WCT, is acting more assertive and confident than he ever has in the past.  Dora, on the other hand... she's in therapy, she seems to avoid the topic, and she's still prickly as a porcupine on anything her brother does.  Faye may suspect - and I certainly do - that Dora is currently far more fragile than Marten.  While the Manatee on Codeine seems to have an iron core under that soft shell, it's looking like Spookypants is exactly the oppoiste.

That's not to say that I believe Tai would be bad for Dora, per se.  I just think that anyone making a move on Dora right now wouldn't be good for her.  And if Faye were to object to the pairing, I don't think the reason would be to protect Marten.  She might say as much to avoid awkwardness, but I really don't think he's the one who needs protecting right now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 02 May 2011, 00:12
Jeph just went and did the perspective that I've been trying to do for my own comic for some time (in a car from the same angles), and he did it with such precision as well. Goddamn that looks accurate.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Blackjoker on 02 May 2011, 00:19
I am much amused by the comic, and I can very much sympathize with Faye, having been in cars of people who drive like that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 02 May 2011, 00:22
Is that a tambourine in the door pocket next to Tai??
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 02 May 2011, 00:35
I just thought of another reason Faye might be freaking out by being in an out-of-control vehicle (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=506). Not that she needs  another reason, but you know.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: cesariojpn on 02 May 2011, 00:53
Jeph just went and did the perspective that I've been trying to do for my own comic for some time (in a car from the same angles), and he did it with such precision as well. Goddamn that looks accurate.

Okay, name the car Tai is driving.

I'd say American given the craftsmanship and use of materials. 2000's Chevy Cavalier.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2011, 01:01
OMG why didn't I think of that. The fact that the Pugnacious Peach is reacting normally means she's made enormous progress.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: LeeC on 02 May 2011, 01:03
Tai + Dora = Disaster!

all joking aside i think Dora is flattered but will let Tai down gently.  Dora seems to like to date men but have sex with women.  I cant recall any ex-girlfriends she has had.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Monkey Says Yes on 02 May 2011, 01:59
Great comic today!  Maybe it was the car interior, or seeing Tai's thought process, or her complete blindness to her current situation, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 02 May 2011, 02:56
Okay, name the car Tai is driving.
The only conclusion I can reach is that it's a wagon, judging from the roof-rack visible at the top of the first and last panels. If Tai were a lesbian stereotype, as suggested last week, wouldn't it be a Subaru Forester? :-D  And yes, what is that in the door-pocket? A pack of sandwiches in cling-film?

Great drawing in today's strip. The joke... not so much. But at least we can spend the week getting outraged about making a joke about bad driving!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Window on 02 May 2011, 03:15
I can't say I am too excited seeing where this is going.  Then again hits close to home for me.

I think this could undermine Marten's newfound confidence completely. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 02 May 2011, 03:38
Great drawing in today's strip. The joke... not so much. But at least we can spend the week getting outraged about making a joke about bad driving!

This would only really apply if Tai was actually asian (which has long since replaced the "lol women are bad drivers" stereotype in terms of offensiveness).

Why Jeph has Faye even riding somewhere with Tai to begin with is beyond me. I mean, how did Faye get to where they were to start with and why would she leave Sven and Dora to ride in a car with Tai?

It just doesn't make any sense at all unless Faye is literally that damn lazy and intent on bailing on Sven/Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: snubnose on 02 May 2011, 05:19
[...] But at least we can spend the week getting outraged about making a joke about bad driving!
Yay !

... wait, I never do that.

Also, you can do that (and much more) really anytime by visiting any forum about Lindsay Lohan. Especially if you like a forum full of hatespeech.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: rje on 02 May 2011, 05:29
I think those are CDs in the door compartment; at least that's where I kept mine til my HD radio decided it didn't like playing CDs anymore and refuses to give the last one I fed it back. >:T

I am ~highly~ impressed by today's art. I haate drawing cars, especially in the perspective Jeph has here. Too many flat planes, bleh.
Also Tai's car looks insanely clean to me, but I tend to use my backseat like a extra storage shed. xD
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Border Reiver on 02 May 2011, 05:46
Great drawing in today's strip. The joke... not so much. But at least we can spend the week getting outraged about making a joke about bad driving!

This would only really apply if Tai was actually asian (which has long since replaced the "lol women are bad drivers" stereotype in terms of offensiveness).


I'd say that wonderful programs like Canada's Worst Driver (http://www.discoverychannel.ca/Showpage.aspx?sid=28780) have pretty much shown that bad driving is definitely not limited to certain ages, sexes, ethnic origins or whatever. 

Don't drive distracted! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: sluthy on 02 May 2011, 06:11
Okay, name the car Tai is driving.

I'd say American given the craftsmanship and use of materials. 2000's Chevy Cavalier.

Did you want the answer or did you want to keep guessing? I saw him tracing it and he said what it was too. (and yes, they are CDs in the door pocket)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Near Lurker on 02 May 2011, 06:31
I asked that in the live feed and I was reminded of this bit with Amanda (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=609).

In a car in the walkable North, then.  Although I think I remember Dora having a car...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: kent_eh on 02 May 2011, 06:31
Why Jeph has Faye even riding somewhere with Tai to begin with is beyond me. I mean, how did Faye get to where they were to start with and why would she leave Sven and Dora to ride in a car with Tai?

'cause Sven left with the truck that they all rode there in?

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It just doesn't make any sense at all unless Faye is literally that damn lazy and intent on bailing on Sven/Dora.

Apparently Amhurst (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1892) is a looong way to travel
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Black Sword on 02 May 2011, 07:20
I am fairly sure any trauma Faye had about driving cars was re-opened by Tai's awful driving. Focus, scatterbrain!

Anyway, I am not looking forward to this. I already said before that I am not a fan of this direction, to the point where my previous amiable liking for Tai is beginning to degenerate. Anyone a time traveler from the future and watn to save us the worry and tell us what J. is going to do?

Great drawing in today's strip. The joke... not so much. But at least we can spend the week getting outraged about making a joke about bad driving!

This would only really apply if Tai was actually asian (which has long since replaced the "lol women are bad drivers" stereotype in terms of offensiveness).


I'd say that wonderful programs like Canada's Worst Driver (http://www.discoverychannel.ca/Showpage.aspx?sid=28780) have pretty much shown that bad driving is definitely not limited to certain ages, sexes, ethnic origins or whatever. 

Don't drive distracted! 

So roadhead is a bad idea, then?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DSL on 02 May 2011, 07:25
Plenty of auto action. Penelope drove Faye to the gym but made her walk back. Faye rode with Raven to the building supply store, Faye rode with Hanners and Hannermom in the limo ... Daaaaaaaang,  it pretty much is all driving Miss Faye-sie, ain't it?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 May 2011, 07:56
Daaaaaaaang,  it pretty much is all driving Miss Faye-sie, ain't it?

Morgan Freeman called, and he is going to kick your ass for that terrible pun.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DSL on 02 May 2011, 08:38
I'll sic Dan Ackroyd on him.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: billydaking on 02 May 2011, 08:41
Great drawing in today's strip. The joke... not so much. But at least we can spend the week getting outraged about making a joke about bad driving!

This would only really apply if Tai was actually asian (which has long since replaced the "lol women are bad drivers" stereotype in terms of offensiveness).

Why Jeph has Faye even riding somewhere with Tai to begin with is beyond me. I mean, how did Faye get to where they were to start with and why would she leave Sven and Dora to ride in a car with Tai?

It just doesn't make any sense at all unless Faye is literally that damn lazy and intent on bailing on Sven/Dora.

1. Faye probably took a lift with Dora since (a) Dora has a car and (b) somebody had to pick up the moving van.
2. Sven already left, remember?
3. They're driving back from Amherst, which has been established in the comic to be 20 minutes away. Tai probably offered a ride back. Seriously, is that so hard to fathom?

The real question is why Tai was doing out in Amherst, unless she lives out there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 02 May 2011, 08:50
It just seems really weird to me that Faye would let someone she isn't exactly close friends with give her a ride anywhere shortly after they pretty much assaulted her and tried to get her naked.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2011, 09:08
The last we saw of Tai's living arrangements, she was in a dorm.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Shredigar on 02 May 2011, 09:12
Okay, name the car Tai is driving.
The only conclusion I can reach is that it's a wagon, judging from the roof-rack visible at the top of the first and last panels. If Tai were a lesbian stereotype, as suggested last week, wouldn't it be a Subaru Forester? :-D  And yes, what is that in the door-pocket? A pack of sandwiches in cling-film?


Hahaha, yes.  That's exactly what I thought.  I saw a roof rack, hatchback, and a lesbian and thought "D'awww, Tai's driving a Subaru."

And even though I don't drive a Subaru, I AM a lesbian, and that IS where I keep CD's in my car.  Just offering up some validation.

(Side note: Here's my train of thought just now.  "I've never posted on here before. Is that the T-Rex amongst all those stupid emoticon faces? Furthermore, is that motherfucking Psyduck??? Should I ask? What happens if I click it? I'm gonna click it. <day is made>"
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: khendron on 02 May 2011, 09:21
The real question is why Tai was doing out in Amherst, unless she lives out there.

Doesn't Tai live in a dorm? Why does she even have a car?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: LeeC on 02 May 2011, 09:33
I live in college park at UMD and people who live in dorms do have cars to get around town and get groceries or go visit their homes/parents house.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: azurite on 02 May 2011, 09:39
Okay, name the car Tai is driving.

I'd say American given the craftsmanship and use of materials. 2000's Chevy Cavalier.

Did you want the answer or did you want to keep guessing? I saw him tracing it and he said what it was too. (and yes, they are CDs in the door pocket)

Sounds like sluthy knows it isn't a Cav!  :-D

The interior does look rather Cav-ish, though the doors aren't right. I have no real proof for this besides what appears to be brackets on top, but I also think the car in the strip is a wagon or a hatchback, and there hasn't been a Cavalier station wagon since the mid-nineties. If the car is that old, that would explain the difference in the doors, but what I can see of the exterior looks too... roundy. If it's a Chevy, I think it's another model.

Something about it reminds me of my Dad's car... how about a mid-aughts Ford Taurus wagon? Again, I have nothing to offer in way of proof, and my vote is for "you can tell me now."
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 02 May 2011, 09:40
pretty much assaulted her

I don't especially want to restart the PC roundabout here, but "assaulted"?  Has horseplay ceased to exist?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 May 2011, 09:46
pretty much assaulted her

I don't especially want to restart the PC roundabout here, but "assaulted"?  Has horseplay ceased to exist?

We live in an era where the world is wrapped up in cotton wool and common sense has been thrown out the window. So yes, yes, horseplay no longer exists. (The same goes for tomfoolery, shenanigans and other appropriate terms).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2011, 09:58
I AM a lesbian, and that IS where I keep CD's in my car.
I figured that's where everyone keeps their CDs in their car (but hopefully, unlike Tai, in cases)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 02 May 2011, 10:10
pretty much assaulted her

I don't especially want to restart the PC roundabout here, but "assaulted"?  Has horseplay ceased to exist?

I'm going by the "If Tai had been a dude, what would it have been called?" standard there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: LeeC on 02 May 2011, 10:13
but Tai isnt a dude.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Shredigar on 02 May 2011, 10:22
I AM a lesbian, and that IS where I keep CD's in my car.
I figured that's where everyone keeps their CDs in their car (but hopefully, unlike Tai, in cases)

Guess my joke was lost then. :(
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2011, 10:39
Nah, it's all good.  I was mostly pointing out that her CDs must be scratched to hell.

Also, welcome to the forum, Shreddy!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 02 May 2011, 11:03
awwww man, thinking about scratched cds makes me sad.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 May 2011, 11:18
Nah, it's all good.  I was mostly pointing out that her CDs must be scratched to hell.

Unless they are in a CD wallet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 02 May 2011, 11:42
We live in an era where the world is wrapped up in cotton wool and common sense has been thrown out the window. So yes, yes, horseplay no longer exists. (The same goes for tomfoolery, shenanigans and other appropriate terms).

What about skylarkings?

And yes, I'm a little surprised Faye felt comfortable getting a ride from a lady who just sexually harassed her (assault is too strong a word, but if I were Faye i'da been pretty pissed), but maybe her desire to not walk back to NoHo overrode her rage (and this way she doesn't have to inconvenience Dora for a ride). A 20 minute drive is a pretty damn long walk. Of course, she probably wishes she'd braved it now that she's with the anti-Hoke.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 02 May 2011, 11:52
awwww man, thinking about scratched cds makes me sad.

Depends. Due to the use of error correcting codes a CD player can recover from many a scratch. Not too many of them though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2011, 11:53
Nah, it's all good.  I was mostly pointing out that her CDs must be scratched to hell.

Unless they are in a CD wallet.
Which they aren't, as far as I can tell.  It's just a clump of discs.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 May 2011, 12:13
Nah, it's all good.  I was mostly pointing out that her CDs must be scratched to hell.
Unless they are in a CD wallet.
Which they aren't, as far as I can tell.  It's just a clump of discs.

Or it could be a clear pack, you never know.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: tomart on 02 May 2011, 12:18
What's an MGS guard?


Also Tai's car looks insanely clean to me, but I tend to use my backseat like a extra storage shed. xD
Me too!   Glad I'm not the only one.  :laugh:


And welcome, Shred!      :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 May 2011, 12:29
What's an MGS guard?

The guards/enemy soldiers in Metal Gear Solid would have a large exclamation point appear above their head if they ever spotted the main character. (Often accompanied by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThIBvsml_us )
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 02 May 2011, 12:59
What's an MGS guard?

The guys in white suits in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwrPuCnNbv8
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: themacnut on 02 May 2011, 13:55
It's been said in the comic that Amherst is 20 minutes away from where CoD is and where most of the cast lives. But is that 20 minutes walking or driving? Was that ever made clear?

If it's driving time, then it must be mentioned that a 20 minute drive can be anywhere between approximately 10 and 25 miles, depending on traffic, the route (highways, how many traffic lights/stop signs etc.) and how fast the car is going. Even the low end of that is rather far for most people to walk, and I'm guessing Faye wasn't willing to walk home and Tai was the only one willing to drive her. So Faye's choices were: (a)walk several miles back home, possibly over a bridge that may not allow pedestrian traffic (b)call for a taxi, which may cost more than she has on her (c)ride with Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: John_Knee on 02 May 2011, 14:00

Why Jeph has Faye even riding somewhere with Tai to begin with is beyond me. I mean, how did Faye get to where they were to start with and why would she leave Sven and Dora to ride in a car with Tai?

It just doesn't make any sense at all unless Faye is literally that damn lazy and intent on bailing on Sven/Dora.

Maybe Faye requesting a lift home was a convenient excuse to get Tai to leave. I'm sure Tai wished to leave anyway, but giving Faye a lift would at lease help save Tai a bit of face in the alkwardness of last week's actions.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2011, 14:41
Hmmmmm

Things do not bode well for Tais driving if her Mobile goes off.



It remains to be seen just how things will play out with Tai and Dora.  It could work, then again it could be a train wreck of biblical proportions.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 02 May 2011, 16:47
We live in an era where the world is wrapped up in cotton wool and common sense has been thrown out the window. So yes, yes, horseplay no longer exists. (The same goes for tomfoolery, shenanigans and other appropriate terms).

What about skylarkings?

Roughousing and malarky as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2011, 17:37
I AM a lesbian, and that IS where I keep CD's in my car.
I figured that's where everyone keeps their CDs in their car (but hopefully, unlike Tai, in cases)

Guess my joke was lost then. :(

Went over their head by the sound of it.




Nice Avvie BTW.


Finally remembered where I'd stored this one on my Compie - Been wanting to get it back up for a while as I'm using it at most of the other Forums I'm on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 02 May 2011, 18:20
It it seems that weird to you, then maybe an examination of assumptions might be in order?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2011, 18:50
Who are you responding to?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 02 May 2011, 20:05
Who are you responding to?

It was initially a response to Odin, but as at least one other person seemed to think it was weird that Faye would accept a lift from Tai, it turned more into a general observation. I was just thinking that, given she did get into the car with Tai, then maybe she didn't feel she had just been assaulted at all.

I probably shouldn't have been quite so oblique, sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2011, 20:13
It's all good.  Just as a general rule, if you're not responding to the post immediately above you, quote what you're responding to.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 02 May 2011, 20:37
There's also this strange assumption that Faye and Tai don't get along.  This confuses me.  I mean, okay, Tai made her feel awkward in this comic (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1603), but ask yourself.  Would Faye tolerate drunk Tai in her lap, for even a fraction of a second, if Faye honestly did not like Tai?  Come on, this is Faye we're talking about.  She'd reduce Tai to kibble.

Of course, Tai remains safely unkibbled until the boobsplosion on Friday, at which point Tai makes Faye feel uncomfortable for a second canonical time.  Followed in the very next strip by Faye clearly being given a lift by Tai somewhere, presumably either to CoD or back home.  Y'know what that says to me?  These two ladies are not mortal enemies.  It'd suggest that Tai's skyclad shenanigans were not the actions of an evil lust-crazed lesbian attacking a poor straight girl, but more along the lines of Tai being goofy and teasing a friend who's more straight-laced than her.

As for giving Faye a lift?  That's... probably the most screamingly obvious thing in the world.  Tai was leaving, and noticed that car-less Faye would have to walk home from Dora's place, or catch a bus.  Because Tai is not a horrible person, she promptly offered Faye a lift.  And, because Faye is not an idiot and doesn't hate Tai, she accepted.

Where's the confusion?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 May 2011, 20:44
We're not necessarily used to the Pugnacious Peach reacting to infringements on her personal boundaries with such equipoise. It's a good thing and a positive example of personal growth for her, but it's not what we're used to.

Compare her long-ago reaction when someone _accidentally_ saw her in a bra.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 02 May 2011, 21:51
I'm pretty sure Coinstar doesn't accept loose nuts.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 02 May 2011, 22:14
It probably doesn't accept Australian coins either (this is where I confess that I had to google "coinstar").
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: CompSarge on 02 May 2011, 22:30
Awwwwwwww, sad Mar-bear is sad!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 02 May 2011, 22:33
Marigold is actually a pretty good sketch artist!  Much better than me, anyway.  :P  And despite the sadface in the final comic, her look of utter astonishment made me snigger.
"Th-that's not what I wanted to draw!  What's happening?"
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 02 May 2011, 22:39
Oh...wow. Ok we have another character in need of some counseling. Seriously, this is like Butters-level repression and self-loathing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 02 May 2011, 22:40
WHO DID THAT
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 02 May 2011, 22:44
Snicker.

Otherwise this forums one and only profanity filter kicks in.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 02 May 2011, 22:54
In Soviet Russia, profanity filter trolls you?

Weird ... umm where was I? Ah yeah, comic. It can be freaky when your subconscious suddenly decides to stop being subtle. I just wonder whether this will trigger any action.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 02 May 2011, 22:58
It's replacing the racial epithet commonly referred to as "the 'n' word" but it also catches the alternate pelling off snicker.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 02 May 2011, 23:04
Seriously, what the hell just happened?  The joke has sailed ten miles over my head and I am so confused right now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 02 May 2011, 23:11
It's replacing the racial epithet commonly referred to as "the 'n' word" but it also catches the alternate pelling off snicker.

Ah, yeah I see what happened now. I had mis-parsed "shi" in the post, not realising that the inserted string actually started with "hi ..."

Remind me not to talk about the main ingredient of wine around here.

Tergon, the profanity filter decided that it had found an offensive word as a substring of the word you typed. Just remove the initial 's' and you'll see it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: lunakitten on 02 May 2011, 23:12
Seriously, what the hell just happened?  The joke has sailed ten miles over my head and I am so confused right now.
Your use of the synonym for giggle, or snicker caught the profanity filter, and activated a script.   :police: This does occasionaly happen.

edit:
And just so my post isn't totally useless- Poor Marigold. I know what it's like to have such crippling low self sesteem, but you can work past it, with a whole lot of compassion for yourself. It helped me to start treating myself like I would any friend in need.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: CEOIII on 02 May 2011, 23:24
Kinda lost here. Mari drew a nice, yet WAY too self-deprecating comic, and her expression in the last panel says.........what the hell does that expression say?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Sorflakne on 02 May 2011, 23:48
I know it's mean to laugh at Mari's expense, but it couldn't be helped  :-(
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 02 May 2011, 23:52
...then this is just spectacular.  See, the point of the post that the filter hijacked was me chucking at Marigold's shock at something she wrote taking on a life of its own, and then going in a totally unexpected direction.  And in the middle of me saying exactly that?  BAM.  Hit by an anti-troll landmine that I had no idea existed.

:D  You gotta admit that was pretty spectacular.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2011, 23:55
Damn girl!!

Talk about projecting yourself on your characters!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 03 May 2011, 00:01
Let's think about this...

Marigold, as a character, could be seen as Jeph's representation of his own internal self doubt and self loathing.

Marigold writes a comic with a representation of herself that turns out to harbor feelings of self doubt and self loathing...


OMG!!!! IT'S TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN1!!111!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2011, 00:09
Kinda lost here. Mari drew a nice, yet WAY too self-deprecating comic, and her expression in the last panel says.........what the hell does that expression say?
I think it's "What?! What did my characters just do?"
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 03 May 2011, 00:10
Kinda lost here. Mari drew a nice, yet WAY too self-deprecating comic, and her expression in the last panel says.........what the hell does that expression say?
I think it's "What?! What did my characters just do?"

I bet Jeph gets that expression sometimes too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 03 May 2011, 00:29
@akronnick: No, its one turtle swimming in space, supporting a number of elephants, supporting a world in turn, and ...  :? never mind

Such a sad Marigold. Hannelore to the rescue!!! Or may be Mari-chan will go play WoW, and gets beaten by you-know-whom.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 03 May 2011, 00:32
Kinda lost here. Mari drew a nice, yet WAY too self-deprecating comic, and her expression in the last panel says.........what the hell does that expression say?

I would guess: "No WAIT, that's not funny, it's just PAINFUL."
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: WaffleIron on 03 May 2011, 01:59
Sad comic is sad
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 03 May 2011, 02:18
@Tergon: You have been Scunthorped (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem). It made me snigger. <--- Now that you know how, only use your powers for good.

I think today's strip is way too meta, and not very funny.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Dust on 03 May 2011, 03:54
Kinda lost here. Mari drew a nice, yet WAY too self-deprecating comic, and her expression in the last panel says.........what the hell does that expression say?

"I got my drink, time to finish this... who drew this?"?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Smallpoxxer on 03 May 2011, 06:26
I think this comic shows a good example of how characters can sometimes write themselves.  A comic artist can sit down planning the way the story is going to go one way and, by the time they have finished, the story ends up dramatically different without the artist really thinking about it.

I believe Jeph has told us in some of his news posts that he has done this.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 03 May 2011, 06:36
Manga Time (break it down!) 

I'm not a regular manga reader, so maybe some of you can help with this...

I'm familiar with the (usually sexual) tension induced sweat bead symbol used in Mar bear's second panel. 

But in the third it's replaced by a quartet of U's arranged in a radial fashion.  I've seen this before, usually used when a character gets really angry.  Thing is, it's usually on a forehead, and I always thought it represented some bulging veins from the character's increased blood pressure - they usually show up with exaggerated yelling and the like. 

This is the first time I've seen it elsewhere - in the hair - and I was wondering if this is a common usage, or did Mari get it wrong (I think Jeph would have known better and is intentionally portraying Mari as not knowing, or maybe he doesn't know it himself, and only sees it as a symbol of frustration.  Either that, or I'm completely off the mark here...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 03 May 2011, 06:52
I've seen it *appear* to be in the hair before, but that would be as a still frame in an animation where it starts at the forehead and flies away from it in some random direction to indicate an apparently huge amount of irritation/sudden anger.

Also to indicate non-serious injury after someone cracks their head on the bottom of a shelf or something.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 03 May 2011, 07:08
Hmm. I know zilch about manga, so I bow to your superior knowledge. But I had thought that it was the sweat bead popping. Much like Faye's boozles here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1628) (the last panel).

Edit: On second thought. Sweat beads don't really pop, do they? The patterns are drawn alike, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 03 May 2011, 07:16
Carl-e, its pretty common usage. Sometimes a character's forehead or brow is just covered in hair, so if you were to use that angry symbol there, it would probably be lost in the fringe. Usually its placed in an area where people will see it straight away and instantly know the character is pissed off.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: themacnut on 03 May 2011, 07:59
Wow. Marigold REALLY hates herself, doesn't she? Hope she does something about it rather than continuing to wallow. And by something, I mean NOT self-harming or worse.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 03 May 2011, 09:03
Indeed.

(click to show/hide)


HA!  Not only isit in the center character's hair, Its showing through another person's HAT!!

OK, thanks.  Pretty funny, that. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jwhouk on 03 May 2011, 09:17
I'm back.

Poor Marigold.

And I think I saw Tai blast by me on I-39 a few times this weekend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 03 May 2011, 09:25
It's replacing the racial epithet commonly referred to as "the 'n' word" but it also catches the alternate pelling off snicker.
Remind me not to talk about the main ingredient of wine around here.

Grapes?  Vinegar has the same sound, but different spelling.

I actually don't know what word you mean.  Maybe link me to the Wikipedia article or something.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: cat_rant on 03 May 2011, 13:42
Poor Marigold.

Mind you that girl can draw! Even if it is self hating badness.


Marigold need's an injection of confidence. Really she is a smart girl, a bit clueless with blokes and has no faith in her own ability.

Crap! See that last line there -  I just described myself.

*face-palm*
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mustakyy on 03 May 2011, 14:43
Wow.  Just wow...


Talk about selfloathing. Daaaaaaaamn!   :psyduck:


Atmosphere radically shifting without a clutch, from "hmm, whats this" to "OH..MY..GOD"


I think today's strip is way too meta, and not very funny.

Mmm-hm, gotta agree on this one.  Actually, finding this very funny, in my opinion, would be kinda disturbing. (just my 2 cents, feel free to disagree or whatever)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Watched Pot on 03 May 2011, 15:59
It's replacing the racial epithet commonly referred to as "the 'n' word" but it also catches the alternate pelling off snicker.
Remind me not to talk about the main ingredient of wine around here.

Grapes?  Vinegar has the same sound, but different spelling.

I actually don't know what word you mean.  Maybe link me to the Wikipedia article or something.
I think he was getting at "rape", implying the filter might block that as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 03 May 2011, 16:20
As far as anyone's found out, that's is the only racial epithet that gets filtered - chink, kyke, spic, hadji, wetback, all get by.  So do all the "dirty" words, as I'm sure you've seen...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 03 May 2011, 16:40
Remind me not to talk about the main ingredient of wine around here.

Grapes?  Vinegar has the same sound, but different spelling.

I actually don't know what word you mean.  Maybe link me to the Wikipedia article or something.

No, I did mean grapes. Not the 'n' word though - totally different word. But I guess that one isn't being picked up. Huh. I guess the filter has a fairly narrow sense of what it thinks is offensive (should have been obvious given the replacement text it uses).

Edit: And now that I've read the rest of the thread (oops), yes Watched Pot was right, that's what I was getting at.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Blackjoker on 03 May 2011, 16:42
I feel great sympathy for Marigold...and a certain amount of commisseration.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: gprimr1 on 03 May 2011, 17:55
In the mornings and afternoons during the school year, Amherst really is 20 minutes from Northampton, despite being 9 miles away.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 03 May 2011, 18:43
In the mornings and afternoons during the school year, Amherst really is 20 minutes from Northampton, despite being 9 miles away.

What a bunch of lazy bums, I'd cover that just by extending my daily run another 20 minutes (but then, I'm trying to get in shape for a marathon, so whatever).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 03 May 2011, 19:31
I take two days off to deal with personal stuff, and Tai nearly kills Faye while Marigold tries her hand at comics and derps. My thoughts.

Monday: Tai. You can talk with people while driving. There is nothing wrong with that. That said, you still need to PAY ATTENTION TO THE DAMN ROAD! Sheesh. I bet the hidden fifth panel has Faye force Tai to swap seats with her.

Today: Marigold...when writing/drawing comics, you need to distance yourself from the comic in every sense of the word. Otherwise, you become the target of jokes, criticism, trolling and dramatic readings. Other than that, you have some talent. It just needs some fine polishing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 03 May 2011, 19:42
I bet the hidden fifth panel has Faye force Tai to swap seats with her.
Probably not the best idea, we don't know if Faye feels comfortable behind the wheel of a car considering the crash she had. That said, 20 minutes of Tai's driving might force a breakthrough for the Savanah Tsunner.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Melauren on 03 May 2011, 20:03
Remind me not to talk about the main ingredient of wine around here.

Grapes?  Vinegar has the same sound, but different spelling.

I actually don't know what word you mean.  Maybe link me to the Wikipedia article or something.

No, I did mean grapes. Not the 'n' word though - totally different word. But I guess that one isn't being picked up. Huh. I guess the filter has a fairly narrow sense of what it thinks is offensive (should have been obvious given the replacement text it uses).

Edit: And now that I've read the rest of the thread (oops), yes Watched Pot was right, that's what I was getting at.

Do you think the word "rape" is inherently offensive?  It's not a slur, it's not derogatory.  It's not like using the word "rape" implies bigotry or racism or sexism in the speaker.  Rape is a heinous, offensive crime, but it's not like the WORD is offensive.

Honestly?  I wish the media would use the word "rape" more often.  When a *cough* famous old filmmaker rapes a thirteen year old girl and certain newspapers insist on saying he "had sex" with her, THAT'S offensive.  Call a spade a spade... and when it's rape, call it rape.  No need to sugarcoat it.

Seriously, they do it all the time.

</rant>
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 03 May 2011, 20:20
It's replacing the racial epithet commonly referred to as "the 'n' word" but it also catches the alternate pelling off snicker.
Remind me not to talk about the main ingredient of wine around here.

Grapes?  Vinegar has the same sound, but different spelling.

I actually don't know what word you mean.  Maybe link me to the Wikipedia article or something.
I think he was getting at "rape", implying the filter might block that as well.

Thank you.  It seems obvious in retrospect.


Melauren: in a perfect world the media would never use the word rape because it would never occur.  The media's word choice is not high on the list of things I would change about them if I could, anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 03 May 2011, 20:23
In the mornings and afternoons during the school year, Amherst really is 20 minutes from Northampton, despite being 9 miles away.
What a bunch of lazy bums, I'd cover that just by extending my daily run another 20 minutes (but then, I'm trying to get in shape for a marathon, so whatever).
Nine miles in twenty minutes would require an average speed of 27mph (43kph). Personally, I'd have trouble doing that on my bicycle. I am in awe of your athleticism...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 03 May 2011, 20:31
Reparsing the phrase, I think he'd cover a total  of 9 miles in his morning run by extending it another  20 minutes.  So for example if it's a 5 mile run now (taking 25 minutes), another 4 miles would add 20 minutes to it.  That's about 12 mph, a pretty respectable marathon runing speed. 

At 27 mph, he'd break all records with the first marathon run in under an hour! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 03 May 2011, 20:42
Either way it sure is impressive for us lazy bums.  We sure are pathetic in comparison to such awesome running skill.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 03 May 2011, 20:59
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Do you think the word "rape" is inherently offensive?

Actually, the reason that word popped into my head was because there is another popular forum (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1207741455) that does censor it.

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That's about 12 mph, a pretty respectable marathon runing speed.

I calculate 12 mph as being 3:06 minutes per km (to get it into units I can deal with). I recently completed a half marathon in 1 hr 36 minutes. That's just outside 4:30 minutes per km. I thought that was respectable. 3:06 minutes per km is, in my opinion, more like 'impressive', even if it's not quite record-breaking. Even 15km at that pace is not too terrible. I don't think you're lazy if you're not quite up to that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 03 May 2011, 21:25
Agree with Tova. The pace Carl-E used in his calculation is very athletic. Not world class, but still very good. I dare guess that his point was that Odin's choice of phrase didn't really convey any information. The numbers game could also play out as follows: Odin's morning run is 7 miles and takes 1 hour and 10 minutes. So, provided that he could keep going, the extra 20 minutes would give him the two extra miles.

For the record. I would be absolutely and positively delighted to be able to maintain a pace of 10 minutes per mile for an extended period of time. Well. The orienteering season is starting, so I need to start training (just a little - no ambitious goals at this age). Tova's time is respectable.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 03 May 2011, 22:11
Just for the record - and to direct the conversation somewhat back to the comic - a couple of years ago, I was an overweight WoW player myself. Although I didn't quite have Marigold's crushing self doubt. I just had a partner who occasionally gave me a good-natured ribbing about my growing girth.

One good thing about running is that it's not, for someone like me, competitive in the sense that most sports are. When you go out there to run, you're not really competing against other people. You're really competing against your previous self. I see that as a good thing, because it means that achieving your goals in the sport depends on absolutely no-one but yourself. And that, with the right motivation and guidance (and patience - there is no silver bullet), you can achieve some very satisfying goals.

And there's nothing like achieving goals for improving your self esteem.

So, yeah, I'm watching Marigold's story with some interest.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Sorflakne on 04 May 2011, 00:05
I never really got into running, which is funny because I'm military and we run all the time for PT (and amusingly (or sadly), I'm one of the faster runners in my squadron).  6'5", weigh less than 200 lbs, but just could never find the joy in it, so pretty much the only running I do is at mandated PT.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: sluthy on 04 May 2011, 00:47
Steve's got a point, but still... dude.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 04 May 2011, 00:49
Okay, I thought that when he was threatening Clinton with a sword, we'd seen Marten's murder-face.

We were wrong.  So very wrong.

Steve isn't just facing the murder-face.  He's about one sentence away from actually provoking the Manatee on Codiene to physical violence.  Justified physical violence.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 04 May 2011, 00:50
Comic! All that pops into my head now is how easy it is to jump to conclusions about why someone you know broke up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Nimrod on 04 May 2011, 00:54
Jeez, the guy in the background almost looks like me. I really need to feckin shave.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 04 May 2011, 01:00
What is with the downer comics this week??!?  :?

We have Tai angsting over Dora (and nearly killing Faye in the process,) Marigold angsting over her issues and now Steve is dragging Marten into his fear-of-commitment-pity-party!

If I wanted another reason to hate myself and want to die I'd read Something*Positive while listening to Celine Dion!!!!

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Gemini on 04 May 2011, 01:05
I love Marten's look of disapproval.

Steve: Yeah, but look what happened to you and Dora.
Marten: ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Blackjoker on 04 May 2011, 01:06
Marten does not seem to enjoy friendships so much as survive them.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: John_Knee on 04 May 2011, 01:32
I never really got into running, which is funny because I'm military and we run all the time for PT (and amusingly (or sadly), I'm one of the faster runners in my squadron).  6'5", weigh less than 200 lbs, but just could never find the joy in it, so pretty much the only running I do is at mandated PT.

You don't enjoy it in the military context as it is work.... Running for yourself can be more enjoyable as you can set your own distance and speed and whether or not you want to stop momentariliy in the park to say hello to a nice looking lady sitting on a bench minding her own business....
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Renewman on 04 May 2011, 01:39
Anyone else think Steve needs a good punch to the jaw? I do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 04 May 2011, 02:02
Anyone else think Steve needs a good punch to the jaw? I do.
Yeah. I mean... Dude?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 04 May 2011, 02:14
Anyone else think Steve needs a good punch to the jaw? I do.
Oh totally. But that's not going to happen; it is not the Way of the Marten. But hen since the Way of the Marten also involves befriending Steve in the first place it's pretty much the exact opposite of what I'd do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 04 May 2011, 02:18
Marten: "Yeah, but Dora wasa really messed up and had all these issues, while Cosette...

Oh.  I see your point"

 :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: snubnose on 04 May 2011, 02:26
In the mornings and afternoons during the school year, Amherst really is 20 minutes from Northampton, despite being 9 miles away.
What a bunch of lazy bums, I'd cover that just by extending my daily run another 20 minutes (but then, I'm trying to get in shape for a marathon, so whatever).
Nine miles in twenty minutes would require an average speed of 27mph (43kph). Personally, I'd have trouble doing that on my bicycle. I am in awe of your athleticism...
I think the best the human body can manage is about 25 km/h.

Animals might manage 50 km/h, some for short distances 100 km/h, but thats about it.



Marten: "Yeah, but Dora wasa really messed up and had all these issues, while Cosette...

Oh.  I see your point"

 :lol:
Cosette might have issues, who hasnt, but she's anything but messed up. She seems quite stable to me. In fact, if she has a boyfriend like Steve, she HAS to be very stable.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 04 May 2011, 02:32
Nah, Steve I don't think you gotta worry, you're not dating Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: themacnut on 04 May 2011, 02:43
Marten does not seem to enjoy friendships so much as survive them.

Seriously-if I had friends like that I'd become a loner. Or maybe try finding better friends...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 04 May 2011, 02:55
To be totally fair to Steve, it is perhaps not surprising that watching a relationship that he regarded as being pretty solid self destruct might be enough to make him feel a bit nervous, particularly when about to take a big new step. I think that's all he's trying to express here. I mean, I understand Marten's initial reaction, but I'm sure Steve is far from being malicious.

(edited for grammatical agreement...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 04 May 2011, 03:10
In the mornings and afternoons during the school year, Amherst really is 20 minutes from Northampton, despite being 9 miles away.
What a bunch of lazy bums, I'd cover that just by extending my daily run another 20 minutes (but then, I'm trying to get in shape for a marathon, so whatever).
Nine miles in twenty minutes would require an average speed of 27mph (43kph). Personally, I'd have trouble doing that on my bicycle. I am in awe of your athleticism...
I think the best the human body can manage is about 25 km/h.


Animals might manage 50 km/h, some for short distances 100 km/h, but thats about it.

It was already covered, but the word "extending" in my original remark makes it a little easier to figure out, and my current time is 7 miles in 50 minutes (I run in the evenings after work, and only really stop because the sun is going down and I need to get back home before it's too dark to see where I am going). A decent pace, but nothing spectacular since it's just a fast jog and nothing like what I could do if I could keep up my actual running pace for that long.

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Marten: "Yeah, but Dora wasa really messed up and had all these issues, while Cosette...

Oh.  I see your point"

 :lol:
Cosette might have issues, who hasnt, but she's anything but messed up. She seems quite stable to me. In fact, if she has a boyfriend like Steve, she HAS to be very stable.


Steve actually has a point, though. How long have he and Cosette been dating (never mind that he shouldn't be moving in with someone if he doesn't think it is a good idea and the relationship doomed due to that alone)?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odal on 04 May 2011, 03:15
In the mornings and afternoons during the school year, Amherst really is 20 minutes from Northampton, despite being 9 miles away.
What a bunch of lazy bums, I'd cover that just by extending my daily run another 20 minutes (but then, I'm trying to get in shape for a marathon, so whatever).
Nine miles in twenty minutes would require an average speed of 27mph (43kph). Personally, I'd have trouble doing that on my bicycle. I am in awe of your athleticism...
This made me spit out my drink.  I know you were being sarcastic, or perhaps misunderstood what you quoted but imagining someone running faster than the cars going speed limit on a small road made me laugh.  And then doing that for 9 miles?  Ow, I'm still laughing.  He wouldn't have to worry about gas prices.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 04 May 2011, 03:16
Well, his friendship with Faye has been violent but sincere, I'll grant you.  And before he hooked up with Dora it was going fine there, and... well, hooking up with a close friend only ends in two possible ways.  Either you're soulmates and stick together until you die, or else when it ends, it's bad for all the people within the blast radius.

But aside from those two, I don't think he's been hurt by anyone really.  Steve is being a dick here, but in his own weird way he's been there for Marten in the past.  Hanners may one day snap and kill everyone, but until that day she's like his little sister.  He got on fine with Raven, he seems to be cool with Penelope and Wil, he even gets on well with Sven despite a bit of hipster one-upsmanship.  Marigold and Angus seem to have a pretty straightforward friendship with him, as does Tai except for the occasional TMI about her sex life.

His life seems fairly insane, but considering the destructive tiny robots and the rampant supervilliany from people like Hanners' folks, that seems par for the course for the QC-niverse.  Friend-wise, I think he's doing okay.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: themacnut on 04 May 2011, 03:47
It would cut down on the number of people who annoy you....

...of course it could lead to jail time as well, but hey, them's the breaks.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 04 May 2011, 03:54
Has anyone in QC ever faced serious consequences for what they've done? I don't think jail time is any kind of real worry for them.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: srpilha on 04 May 2011, 04:37
It's been coming along for a while, but it's official now: Steve is an asshole.

He takes the opportunity to douchebag his way through relationships. Every. Single. Time.

I mean, srsly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 04 May 2011, 04:39
Has anyone in QC ever faced serious consequences for what they've done? I don't think jail time is any kind of real worry for them.

And, this is the Northhampton PD we're talking about here: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1389 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1389)

What consequences?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 04 May 2011, 04:49
Has anyone in QC ever faced serious consequences for what they've done? I don't think jail time is any kind of real worry for them.
VespAvenger got the closest, then the spooks intervened and gave her a job instead.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 04 May 2011, 04:57
Pintsize almost got RMA'd (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=148) by Agent Turing, but he was rescued by the Pugnacious Peach owls.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2011, 05:41
Truth be told, I've worried that doing something that I saw a friend do in a busted relationship has made me concerned that it would lead down the same path.

Then I realized that it was his ex's fault, not his. (Generally.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 May 2011, 06:08
It's been coming along for a while, but it's official now: Steve is an asshole.

Steve isn't an asshole, he's just an idiot that doesn't think before he speaks. Everyone has at least one friend like that, they aren't douchebags, they were just born without that little mental filter that says "errr you might want to rethink that comment before you insult someone by accident"
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 04 May 2011, 06:18
he even gets on well with Sven despite a bit of hipster one-upsmanship.

What the hell do you mean by a hipster one-upsmanship?

Everyone has at least one friend like that, they aren't douchebags, they were just born without that little mental filter that says "errr you might want to rethink that comment before you insult someone by accident"

Same, except the same guy is a massive cockblocker as well. It's unbelievable how many chicks he can pull when he's outright dumb.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: John_Knee on 04 May 2011, 06:51
To be totally fair to Steve, it is perhaps not surprising that watching a relationship that he regarded as being pretty solid self destruct might be enough to make him feel a bit nervous, particularly when about to take a big new step. I think that's all he's trying to express here. I mean, I understand Marten's initial reaction, but I'm sure Steve is far from being malicious.

(edited for grammatical agreement...)

My thinking too. In some ways, Steve avoiding talking about Martin's recent breakup could be even more awkward as it would be different for the conversation to continue. If Steve had avoided the true reason, it would be hard to explain why he was hesitant about co-habitating when it was clearly on his mind. Once Martin twigged as to why Steve was avoiding mentioning him as the reason, possibly Martin would be more insulted.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 04 May 2011, 07:08
Ok, Steve does deserve a punch imo... But that won't happen since that's not the way Marten rolls. Marten can still tell him he's a douche and leave the idiot alone.

That was NOT cool, dude.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Border Reiver on 04 May 2011, 07:34
Okay, I thought that when he was threatening Clinton with a sword, we'd seen Marten's murder-face.

We were wrong.  So very wrong.

Steve isn't just facing the murder-face.  He's about one sentence away from actually provoking the Manatee on Codiene to physical violence.  Justified physical violence.

Agreed.  Steve's next sentence better be a quick statement abount how he's unsure since he's seen what he thought was a solid realtionship implode after the move in or we get to see what a manatee can do when aroused.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 May 2011, 08:25
or we get to see what a manatee can do when aroused.

See a very awkward attempt of trying to get it on with Steve? There are some unfortunate implications right there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 04 May 2011, 08:46
Steve's a little dickish, yeah but not intentionally. I mean you can tell he's not trying to be an asshole, he just doesn't seem to know what 'tact' means. And it's a little hard to argue with him when Marten's still got the no sleep/stress lines under his eyes...

Anyway, I see a brofight happening tomorrow. Not a physical one, but I have a feeling Marten's gonna have something to say about that.

And finally, NO STEVE DON'T DO IT (I've always had a feeling Cosette's gonna turn out to be a crazy bitch)!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2011, 08:57
Hipster one-upmanship (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=333)
There was also the guitar episode.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2011, 08:58
She'll be screaming at him for putting the color socks in with his white socks and that the love fern died.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: ChicagoTed on 04 May 2011, 09:02
Honestly  Steve's comment in the last panel seemed appropriate to me.  He is addressing both his concerns about elevating the state of the relationship his is in and what seem to be fears and uncertainties about the possible negative consequences of doing so to a friend of his who just recently DID experience those negative consequences.  Yes it is crass but if anything I think it shows Steve is a lot more vulnerable than he lets on.

Also hi I'm new pleasedonthurtme
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DJRubberducky on 04 May 2011, 09:04
Marten: "Yeah, but Dora wasa really messed up and had all these issues, while Cosette...

Oh.  I see your point"

 :lol:

I was actually coming in here to say "And THIS, boys and girls, is a very good reason to keep inaccurately labeling your previous partners as 'crazy'.  If Marten were actually in a mood to cheer up his friend, he could use the C-word to describe Dora and by careful word choice imply that Cosette does not possess such instability."
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DSL on 04 May 2011, 09:26
Cosette's display in The Secret Bakery notwithstanding, I think Steve has (usually unwittingly) demonstrated he's the less-secure one in his relationships. I won't go so far as to say he's the Dora in this case, as Dora at least displayed awareness of things she needed to work out, and can better back up her assertiveness, even if she doesn't herself feel it.

Edit for stupid spelling mistake.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2011, 09:32
Welcome new person!

I took Steve's remark the same way, as if he intended to say "I'm nervous, if even you and Dora broke up, then what chance do I have?"
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Boomslang on 04 May 2011, 09:40
I wish to add myself onto the 'Steve does NOT deserve punching' side of the argument.

Marten telling Steve that it'll all work out would be fine and reassuring, except Marten just got dumped and didn't see it coming.

He SUCKS at predicting the future.

This is Steve's time to voice a perfectly reasonable vote of no confidence in Marten's platitudes. Steve does actually have a lot to worry about regarding Cosette moving in- it could go badly and they break up, it might go well until she gets pregnant and Steve runs and hides, all sorts of things could very reasonably happen.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 04 May 2011, 09:54
I have to agree with the "Steve is expressing his innermost doubts to his best friend" crew here, despite going for the funny after a long day/night with no sleep.  I'm sure we'll get some more elucidation tomorrow, and Murderin' Marten will go back to manatee mode soon enough...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mustakyy on 04 May 2011, 10:10
NOT cool Steve, srsly, NOT COOL.   :-o

I took Steve's remark the same way, as if he intended to say "I'm nervous, if even you and Dora broke up, then what chance do I have?"

Yep, got same kind of vibe from the comment. He wasnt being a dick intentionally, but nonetheless, that was still quite douchy thing to say.
Lately enjoyable brotimes with Steve have been replaced by awkwardness, tactical TMI's and some unintentional douchery.

As for Manatee Deathgaze, I think things will blow over in short time, given that there's not going to be more shenanigans. We'll see...

(edited some bad grammer)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 04 May 2011, 10:49
I think its just a difference in social groups that makes people react so badly to Steve there. Yeah, it may be an annoying thing to hear, but from the perspective of "I thought you guys were solid and it still blew up" that was pretty accurate way of expressing his doubts.

I don't know. I'm not sure really if half of you are as strict with what your friends do as you say here, because if I hit every one of my friends who occasionally said something like that, I wouldn't have very many friends left.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Blyss on 04 May 2011, 11:00
Steve has busted Marten's balls from almost the very first time we met him.  I speak from personal experience when I say this - some guys that are best friends do this.

I do this sometimes, and sometimes it is done to me.  I don't consider the person doing it any less my friend for saying so, though I might give them a friendly arm punch and call them a dick.  I don't think I'm considered an asshole for doing it, but if my friends THINK I'm an asshole, and they don't tell me, how can they expect me to know?  Anyway - Steve IS a little bit of a jerk, but to be totally honest, Marten needs it at times.  Marten also fucks with Steve at times, so I think they're pretty much even on this front.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2011, 11:17
If anything, Marten's an idiot for not seeing that line of reasoning coming.  Also, welcome to the forum, Ted (who hails from Chicago)!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 May 2011, 11:48
Lets look at it from Steve's perspective.
Steve's major girlfriends (from what we've seen) have consisted of an overly-needy marine student, a pathology assistant who still lived with her literally perfect ex-boyfriend (whom she dumped Steve for, and promptly married him by all accounts), not to mention Tortura,the scarred Russian Villianess who had Steve in what looked like a torture/bondage session, now on the run from the Department. And currently, but not least, we have Cosette, a woman whose clumsy mishaps would put Inspector Clouseau to shame.

Then, we have Steve's father, a man who has been married 4 times, or perhaps three times, even Steve is a little confused about that, which might indicate that his father has a revolving door leading to his bedroom.

So, Steve looks at his best friend, Marten Reed, a guy, who looking at his past should be all kinds of messed up - parents divorced, gay dad with a nightclub, world famous dominatrix for a mother. Yet despite this, Martin is relatively normal. So, imagine Steve's surprise when his normal pal ends up being in a relationship with a hot, former goth, without, to him, many inhibitions, a fiery ass and is a successful buisness woman. Even Steve has told Marten that he wished he could have the same kind of relationship with a girl that Marten had with Dora. Suddenly, Marten is the relationship role-model for Steve, especially to the point where Dora is moving in with Marten.

And, oop, pretty much out of nowhere, to our resident himbo, Dora and Marten have broken up, the status quo has been shaken up, and now, for Steve, seeing what looked like a stable enough relationship collapse like that has given him cause for concern, and now that mental filter is forgotten about as Steve's insecurities have started rising to the surface.

Duuuuuude, Steve is turning into the Dora in his relationship!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2011, 12:00
Damn it, that was an extremely well written post that gave good insight on today's comic.

I say "damn it" because I almost can't take it seriously, since you used the word "himbo".
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: tomart on 04 May 2011, 12:02
wait - isn't Cosette the crazy harpy on crutches whose furious stare almost bore hellholes through her best friend's skull...?
(That was a good comic, but i can't remember the number...)   (and then Marten's prediction that their date would end with Steve dead and on fire, and her pregnant...?)

I'd be a LITTLE cautious about moving in with an accident-prone walking volcano, who just happens to drive employers to disaster...

Imagine what she could do to a SO.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 04 May 2011, 12:04
M.o.M., well, I might have used the term beefcake, but, lets face it, Steve just doesn't seem that bright.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2011, 12:05
I would've accepted "man whore", but "himbo"?  Meh.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kazukagii on 04 May 2011, 12:11
Been there, done that, Marten. Nothing to put the icing on a long relationship going down in flames than for all your friends to suddenly become tepid about taking any steps in their own relationships, and pointing the finger to your's as proof. It's like: "Thanks jackass. I already don't feel bad about my own life being screwed up, I really needed to think I'm partially responsible for fucking your's up too."

I hope the Horrible Revelation has some spare swords behind the bar that Marten can rent out.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 04 May 2011, 12:42
Hell, at this point he probably has it with him. He and Faye probably take turns carrying it around.

Also I like the little fruity thing Marty's doing with his hand in panel 3 (I didn't notice it before lol)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: azurefirem on 04 May 2011, 14:43
Polite request for an alternate panel 4 that involves Marten and laser-eyes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Heliphyneau on 04 May 2011, 15:13
Ah Steve, fulfilling his role as The Douche.  He wasn't 'born without a mental filter' though -- tact is learned.  At a certain point as a socially-integrated adult, if you haven't learned tact, it's either an indication of a mental disability or it's a choice.  Steve may not be smart, but I'm gonna go with choice on this one.  He avoids taking responsibility for his actions by not acknowledging their consequences.  In short, he doesn't give a shit if people get pissed at what he says.  Also, he and Marten may rib each other from time to time, but Steve appears to be serious here.

Suddenly, Marten is the relationship role-model for Steve

That may be the case, but I don't think Steve has ever expressed that to Marten and I doubt Marten would infer that from Steve's statement.  Even if Steve does think that, it's a bad comparison for him to draw.  There are too many differences between all four people for what happened between Marten and Dora to have any real correlation with what might happen between Steve and Cosette if they happen to move in together.  Of course, I think Steve and Cosette living together is a horrible idea -- they're terrible at communicating and she's ridiculously accident-prone -- but it could well prove to be hilarious for us.

Nothing to put the icing on a long relationship going down in flames than for all your friends to suddenly become tepid about taking any steps in their own relationships, and pointing the finger to your's as proof. It's like: "Thanks jackass. I already don't feel bad about my own life being screwed up, I really needed to think I'm partially responsible for fucking your's up too."

Exactly.  As 'over' Dora as Marten may be right now (he's obviously still working through some of that), he doesn't need his buddy tagging him as being to blame for said buddy's relationship slowing down or faltering.  If Steve doesn't want to move in with Cosette, he should have the balls to say so to her, hell-flames be damned.  Maybe we'll hear more of his thought process on this tomorrow.  Or maybe it'll be flying roombas akimbo!  Either way, we'l see.

And Marten laser-eyes would be awesome.   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 04 May 2011, 15:46
Hipster one-upmanship (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=333)
There was also the guitar episode.

Thanks, that's what I was meaning.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2011, 16:16
Cosette firegaze (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1547)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 04 May 2011, 16:27
]This made me spit out my drink.  I know you were being sarcastic, or perhaps misunderstood what you quoted
Both actually, thanks for noticing. :laugh:

Hipster one-upmanship (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=333)
There was also the guitar episode.
Does Steve share the same hipster value hierarchy that Marten and Sven apparently do? I don't remember him being so into musical "indy cred" or guitar fetishism for example, so would he be susceptible to hipster one-up-manship?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 04 May 2011, 16:59
Oh excellent and timely comment Steve.

I swear, if Marten had Pintsize's Laser in his eye right now. Steve's head would be melting at this point.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 May 2011, 17:27
I can't think of any examples of hipsterism from Steve. Anybody?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Boomslang on 04 May 2011, 18:56
Steve is a lot of things, but hipster doesn't seem to be one of them. If anything, he's more the frat-boy stereotype, although I don't think they've ever mentioned him actually belonging to a fraternity at any time.


I suppose a lot of people have different sorts of friendships than I do- if the exact same conversation were to happen between me and one of my best friends, instead of a death gaze, the phrase 'You've got a point, there.' would be used, because Steve DOES have a point.

If you can't speak your feelings around your closest friends, when can you?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2011, 19:01
What the hell do you mean by a hipster one-upsmanship?

He's talking about when the two of them compared indie-bands that they'd seen/heard way back when  (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=332).

EDIT: ####, this is what I get for being out of the loop for so long.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 04 May 2011, 19:09
Been there, done that, Marten. Nothing to put the icing on a long relationship going down in flames than for all your friends to suddenly become tepid about taking any steps in their own relationships, and pointing the finger to your's as proof. It's like: "Thanks jackass. I already don't feel bad about my own life being screwed up, I really needed to think I'm partially responsible for fucking your's up too."

Umm Steve's life has not been "fucked up", he's just feeling nervous.

And while (arguably) he could have put it a bit more tactfully, I don't see how him hiding it or lying about it would be beneficial to anyone.

I think Marten will cope.

Reviewing post...

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If you can't speak your feelings around your closest friends, when can you?

Quite right.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 04 May 2011, 19:41
As everyone and their mother has already said, Steve has every right to be nervous about moving in with Cosette after what happened to Dora and Marten. That said, Steve and Cosette are very different from Marten and Dora, so only time can tell how this will turn out.

Also, I believe someone mentioned making an alternate version of panel 4 with Marten having laser eyes? I support that motion.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Border Reiver on 04 May 2011, 21:21
Not sure where all the Steve hate is coming from.

While he wants women, once in a relationship he both is faithful and quite emotionally invested in them.  See the aftermath of both Ellen and Meena to see that for all the little boy bluster and bravado, once in he's commited.

While many might see his comment here as something thoughtless, it likley reveals more of a concern that, once again, he's going to be dumped and that ladies and gentlemen is likely an emotionally scary prospect.  Some people when really worried about their own emotional needs may not be as cognizant of other's needs or feelings.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 04 May 2011, 22:43
If you can't speak your feelings around your closest friends, when can you?

Man, this is exactly what I was trying to say earlier, yet I tripped over my words and took many more and said much less.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Nick and Marla on 04 May 2011, 23:10
Steve is acting pretty standard from where I'm sitting. Marten doesn't seem thick skinned. Steve probably steps on his toes every now and again. Probably used to it. But what do I know.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Grantzilla on 04 May 2011, 23:49
Marten: Shut your five dollar ass up before I make change...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2011, 00:04
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5181/5689143335_a8c5519997_b.jpg)


The usual MS Paint hack job.  Someone with an artistic bent should really do this crap instead of me. 

But I'm glad to be of service! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: CEOIII on 05 May 2011, 00:13
Marten: Shut your five dollar ass up before I make change...

*gives Grantzilla 10 internets for the New Jack City reference*
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Grantzilla on 05 May 2011, 00:32
Marten: Shut your five dollar ass up before I make change...

*gives Grantzilla 10 internets for the New Jack City reference*

Internets accepted.8)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: tomart on 05 May 2011, 00:35
Plus, that's one of the best avatars in the world.    :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Grantzilla on 05 May 2011, 00:38
haha thanks!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 00:43
Means a lot coming from this guy (not sarcasm, that's my favorite movie).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 01:38
Hey, people watching the stream, I obviously don't want details, but does it look like he's almost done?

(Not rushing him, just wanna know if I should stay up until it's up or go to bed)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: CEOIII on 05 May 2011, 01:55
Nah, go to bed.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 05 May 2011, 01:57
Or Portland, whichever...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: CEOIII on 05 May 2011, 01:58
Portland can't be that cool. All those woods, raining 80% of the time.....
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 02:04
The one thing I know about Oregon is people from Oregon don't know how to pronounce Oregon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 05 May 2011, 02:31
No, no they do not and nor can they be educated to.

Sadly, Portland is not grinding up the hipsters for chum; instead it is letting them roam free, like grazing goddamn cattle, becoming fat on Voodoo Donuts (fucking shut up forever about that place, Portlanders, no one cares) and babbling like a runnng stream about their fucking band/clown college plans/independent film, whilst they abuse the state's lack of sales tax and go get stoned at OMSI. The place has become some sort of dark hipster Mecca, which means that up here in Seattle we get to be Medina and host the further pilgrimage of these assholes. Yes, we know Pike Place Market was not as cool as you expected; yes, we know Belltown is "so expensive" (but that doesn't stop you going out to get crunk every night, now does it); no, we don't want to hear what you think of Starbucks . We have enough of our own unbearable white people. Go away. Go away forever or the natives are going to cull you, and don't think we don't know who you are!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: CEOIII on 05 May 2011, 02:32
DAMN. Don't sugarcoat it, tell us how you really feel.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 05 May 2011, 02:40
I am sorry, I just get of a goddamn temper about this because as a Seattle-dweller I can attest to the fact that the hipster rate in the Northwest keeps growing like a metastasizing brain tumor, and now I know where the fuckers are coming from! BACK TO MASSACHUSETTS WITH YE, HIPSTER FILTH.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: themacnut on 05 May 2011, 02:47
I wouldn't mind the woods, but the near-constant rain would depress me after awhile. Don't know how Northwest natives could stand it, I like seeing the sun every so often. Even if it's just through a window.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 05 May 2011, 02:58
I am sorry, I just get of a goddamn temper about this because as a Seattle-dweller I can attest to the fact that the hipster rate in the Northwest keeps growing like a metastasizing brain tumor, and now I know where the fuckers are coming from! BACK TO MASSACHUSETTS WITH YE, HIPSTER FILTH.

Make some use out of them and feed them into the wood pulpers at any of the million paper mills up there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: zadcap on 05 May 2011, 03:06
Hey, it only rains for about 8 months(straight...).  We have a couple months where it doesn't rain at all...

Anyway, if you want to see an almost true comedy about what's drawing people, go look up Portlandia.  It's...  sadly close to being true.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: snubnose on 05 May 2011, 03:11
I cant help but feel todays comic ... is kinda weak.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: John_Knee on 05 May 2011, 03:19
I think one of the problems in characterising Steve is the fact we've only seen him in a limited capacity - either as a drinking buddy or having relationship hassles. We've never seen him in a normal day to day situation and his interaction with Martin. If he popped into the CoD a lot more often and get involved in non-emotionally charged situations, we might be able to judge Steve's personailty better. As it is, we've only seen him in situations where there are plenty of opportunities for the wrong thing to be said.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 05 May 2011, 03:40
I cant help but feel todays comic ... is kinda weak.

I felt the same, though I figured maybe it's funnier if you live there.

Can't hit it out of the park every day, I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2011, 04:04
I think it's a fine comic, the problem is that it pales when placed after the previous one.  We expect there to be more serious ralationship talk with a punchline or two, not an extended stand-up bit about "them dang hipsters, amirite?"!

ONG, Jeph's a GOM...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DSL on 05 May 2011, 04:45
I can't help feel the Portland hipster comic is a reaction by Jeph to all the "shit's gonna get real NOW" predictions made every time he sets up a little bit of drama. I hope I'm wrong, and that the stories of how he ignores these forums are true.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 05 May 2011, 04:52
To think that for a moment I thought that the unshaven guy is a fisherman on his way to/from Portland, Maine. Makes more sense in New England?Yes, I know that Portland, Oregon is bigger. I just played a lot of Railroad Tycoon, when I was eh ... less old.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 05 May 2011, 05:02
ONG, Jeph's a GOM...

At 30 and running a sucsessful business, he's too young and stinkin' happy to be a GOM!

Maybe it's a guest strip. And the other artist has the exact same style?

And I thought someone was messing with Jeph's meds. It's a cute joke 'n all. But is it really Questionable Content?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 05 May 2011, 05:19
I am sorry, I just get of a goddamn temper about this because as a Seattle-dweller I can attest to the fact that the hipster rate in the Northwest keeps growing like a metastasizing brain tumor, and now I know where the fuckers are coming from! BACK TO MASSACHUSETTS WITH YE, HIPSTER FILTH.

Make some use out of them and feed them into the wood pulpers at any of the million paper mills up there.

This is actually a great idea! We can lure them with the idea that they're helping make "extra-organic" construction paper to be sold at independent art stores! Worst-case scenario they end up in Tacoma, and no one gives a shit about Tacoma.

ONG, Jeph's a GOM...

At 30 and running a sucsessful business, he's too young and stinkin' happy to be a GOM!

Maybe it's a guest strip. And the other artist has the exact same style?

And I thought someone was messing with Jeph's meds. It's a cute joke 'n all. But is it really Questionable Content? my QC fanfiction?

I guess not!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 May 2011, 05:37
I hope that the stories of how he ignores these forums are true.

If you check Jeph's forum account, you will see that he hasn't logged in to the forums since December.  I don't imagine that he would just lurk without reacting to anything, though I suppose he could.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 May 2011, 05:39
But is it really Questionable Content?

One of the strengths of Questionable Content, that helps keep it alive and interesting, is precisely that the focus changes between the main storyline and other disconnected jokes of different kinds.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 05 May 2011, 05:42
From Jeph's twitter yesterday, he had an unscheduled visit to the doctor yesterday, so we'll cut him some slack if the comic goes in a different direction from the previous one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2011, 06:03
I hope that the stories of how he ignores these forums are true.

If you check Jeph's forum account, you will see that he hasn't logged in to the forums since December.  I don't imagine that he would just lurk without reacting to anything, though I suppose he could.

Perhaps he has spies...?

"They're expecting X today, sir." 

"Excellent.  Let's do Y instead, then."
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Black Sword on 05 May 2011, 06:21
I rather liked this strip. Steve says a comment that can be interpreted wrong, but between bros, it's easy enough to just toss it aside and ignore it.

More Secret Bakery nao, plz?

No, no they do not and nor can they be educated to.

Sadly, Portland is not grinding up the hipsters for chum; instead it is letting them roam free, like grazing goddamn cattle, becoming fat on Voodoo Donuts (fucking shut up forever about that place, Portlanders, no one cares) and babbling like a runnng stream about their fucking band/clown college plans/independent film, whilst they abuse the state's lack of sales tax and go get stoned at OMSI. The place has become some sort of dark hipster Mecca, which means that up here in Seattle we get to be Medina and host the further pilgrimage of these assholes. Yes, we know Pike Place Market was not as cool as you expected; yes, we know Belltown is "so expensive" (but that doesn't stop you going out to get crunk every night, now does it); no, we don't want to hear what you think of Starbucks . We have enough of our own unbearable white people. Go away. Go away forever or the natives are going to cull you, and don't think we don't know who you are!

Those of us on the Northeast Corridor wish to thank you for your valuable contribution to keeping our hipster populations low. Without you, we'd be forced to initiate exterminatus. As the hipster population tends to grow until it consumes all available resources, we do, however, recommend ou cull the herds as necessary so that only the least annoying, least pretentious hipsters can breed.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Near Lurker on 05 May 2011, 06:23
Oregon?

Go to Maine, poseur.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2011, 06:42
...least annoying, least pretentious hipsters...

oxy-morons?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 05 May 2011, 07:03
Perhaps he has spies...?

Damn.  Busted...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: ChicagoTed on 05 May 2011, 09:12
I hate to say that not only is this Portland-itis a real thing, but I know someone who is currently in between stages two and three (she has moved to Portland, but has not yet cut her ties to the East).

It is nice to see the comic deal with hipsters again though, always makes me smile.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Black Sword on 05 May 2011, 09:22
...least annoying, least pretentious hipsters...

oxy-morons?

Matter of degree.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: ysth on 05 May 2011, 09:24
I deduce that Jeph will not be making OSCON anytime soon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Shadic on 05 May 2011, 09:24
The one thing I know about Oregon is people from Oregon don't know how to pronounce Oregon.
You are so wrong.

And you hipster folk power our public transportation... We certainly don't feed you to the fish.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Xader on 05 May 2011, 09:44
Yuk, the salmon would taste like hipster!

Please, pledge to end Portland-itis. We've taken in as many as we can, but the smell is starting to permeate the air...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Boomslang on 05 May 2011, 09:53

As someone who was born in Oregon and lives there currently, we pronounce Oregon correctly by definition, 'cause it's our prerogative to decide which pronunciation is the right one.

And, since we're nice enough not to criticize anyone else's pronunciation of their own state (Although, seriously, Missouri?), I'd really appreciate it if you return the favor.
Especially
since you're wrong.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DSL on 05 May 2011, 10:13
Hey everyone. Wish Jeph a Happy National Cartoonists Day. To answer Steve, this is a thing that is real.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 05 May 2011, 10:36
OK, now I gotta know.  Never having met an Oregonian(?) in person, how the hell do  youse guys pronounciate it?  

People look at me weird 'cause I have an odd "or" pronunciation for this part of the world, it's an open "a" sound when it's in the first syllable.  For example, ahranges come from Flahrida, and the space above my eyebrows is my fahrhead.  When it's not the first syllable, or when it's the only syllable, I do the stadard "ore" sound (so "for" is pronounced like "four").  

So, is it Ahr-e-gon, or Or-e-gon?  Or is it the two-syllable Or'gon, pronounced like the church instrument?  
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: rje on 05 May 2011, 10:58
But but...I wanted to go to Portland before it was a thing! Since I was eighteen! That was...thirteen years ago. But that doesn't make me a hipster, right? ....Right?  *crickets*

Actually, I just wanted to go because I read that a bunch of comic creators lived there so it was supposedly this comic industry mecca and that sounded like the most awesome thing. It just sounded really artsy, laid back and kind of geeky. But it doesn't sound that way anymore :( I'm too poor for it now, just like Seattle.

(...jesus christ that was thirteen years ago. I just made myself sad. ._. )
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 05 May 2011, 11:00
OK, [how] youse guys pronounciate it?  
So, is it Ahr-e-gon, or Or-e-gon?  Or is it the two-syllable Or'gon, pronounced like the church instrument?  

So, spoiling for a fight, are we?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Elysiana on 05 May 2011, 11:12
Someone I knew when I was pretty young had a bumper sticker that said "ORY-GUN" and she explained that that's how people from Oregon pronounce it. I never did find out if that was true.

After living the first 20 years of my life in Illinois, there isn't much that grates on me more than hearing someone say "ell-ih-noy" or, even worse, "ill-ih-noiz". I do remember there was some local TV personality who combined the two into "ell-ih-noiz" and it made me want to punch him.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Shadic on 05 May 2011, 11:48
OK, now I gotta know.  Never having met an Oregonian(?) in person, how the hell do  youse guys pronounciate it?  
Here's a good example. (http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?ggoreg01.wav=Oregon)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 05 May 2011, 11:52
Hmm....I often wonder with these one-shot characters, are they based on people Jeph knows?

That said, I've only been to Portland, Oregon once in my life. Was kinda "meh" to me, in all honesty.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Cybit on 05 May 2011, 12:12
LOL, live in Seattle myself (Bellevue, to be exact), and I'm in the throes of Portland-itis, I fear.  Admittedly, its because one of my closest friends from growing up lives out there, and as far as I can tell, it's Seattle minus the traffic, and I despise traffic. :-p  For what it is worth, I have had fantastic times in Portland the 6 or so times I've gone down there, and it's actually one of the places I would move.  I grew up in the Midwest, so for Midwesterners, I always see Seattle as Chicago, and Portland as St Louis. 

Of course, if it really is hipster heaven, I should flee as fast as I can, as I don't think I get along with them very well. >_<  Or just stick to the 'burbs.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Boomslang on 05 May 2011, 13:30
OK, now I gotta know.  Never having met an Oregonian(?) in person, how the hell do  youse guys pronounciate it?  

So, is it Ahr-e-gon, or Or-e-gon?  Or is it the two-syllable Or'gon, pronounced like the church instrument?  

Everyone I've ever known who grew up here says it as 'or a gun.' As in, you could kill a deer with a bow, or a gun. Except with the emphasis on the first syllable.

Pronouncing it as the church instrument is acceptable if you're drunk or from the east coast.  Emphasizing the last syllable, using the long 'o' sound for the beginning, or anything that you don't normally do with other words is just not cool.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 May 2011, 13:55
Powell's Bookstore is awesome. Check it out if you're in Portland. It's so big they have maps of it at the entrance. I fantasize about building a penthouse apartment on their roof.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Shadic on 05 May 2011, 13:59
Powell's is indeed awesome.

And Cybit - Portland just feels like Seattle but less of a giant city. It's like a weird child of Olympia (my hometown) and Seattle... With some pretty nice public transportation.

Haven't noticed any huge hipster populations, I'm on a college campus and I think the amount of them is relatively normal for progressive liberal areas.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: calmcalamity on 05 May 2011, 14:12
Boomslang is pretty much on par, though i always thought of it as more of ore (as in metal ore) and gun, or or-uh-gun, and on the issue of Ahr-e-gon or Or-e-gon i don't really think it's that big a deal.  
Also, no hipsters are not the only thing that Portland attracts, we happen to be the center of the indie comics industry with the native born Dark Horse Comics, Periscope Studio,and Stumptown comics fest, etc.
On top of that there is a plethora of other nerdy things to love about this city, see the Portland Geek Council of Commerce and Culture (http://www.pgc3.org/) and next weekend Wonder Northwest (like Wondercon, but better)

On a final note here are the list of Portland, OR nicknames that you can use without a native glaring at you or face palming: City of Roses or Rose City, Bridgetown, Stumptown, and everybody's favorite, PDX
here is what you shouldn't use, EVER: P-Town, Rip City, Razorblade City
Little Beirut is somewhat outdated and obscure, but the more hardcore leftists in the city i think still enjoy that moniker
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 05 May 2011, 14:21
This (http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/9/23/how-to-pronounce-oregon.html) is where I learned its pronunciation.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 05 May 2011, 14:55
[DarthVaderVoice] Come to Portland.  We have Cookies [/DarthVaderVoice'   :-D


On another front, could this be foreshadowing?

Or am I reading more into this than there really is.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jwhouk on 05 May 2011, 15:13
Someone I knew when I was pretty young had a bumper sticker that said "ORY-GUN" and she explained that that's how people from Oregon pronounce it. I never did find out if that was true.

After living the first 20 years of my life in Illinois, there isn't much that grates on me more than hearing someone say "ell-ih-noy" or, even worse, "ill-ih-noiz". I do remember there was some local TV personality who combined the two into "ell-ih-noiz" and it made me want to punch him.

We just call 'em "FIBS" up here.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Penquin47 on 05 May 2011, 15:41
One of the many nice things about being Texan, I suppose... EVERYONE knows how to pronounce Texas.

Making allowances for the immigrants who pronounce it the Spanish way, of course.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 05 May 2011, 16:06
Sadly, Portland is not grinding up the hipsters for chum; instead it is letting them roam free, like grazing goddamn cattle, becoming fat on Voodoo Donuts (fucking shut up forever about that place, Portlanders, no one cares) and babbling like a runnng stream about their fucking band/clown college plans/independent film, whilst they abuse the state's lack of sales tax and go get stoned at OMSI.
Everything I know about Portland, I learned from reading Bike Snob NYC (http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2011/03/virtual-reality-smugness-is-state-of.html), so assuming a satirical blog is completely accurate, I'm sure I'd be suffocated by the smugness.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Elysiana on 05 May 2011, 17:03
One of the many nice things about being Texan, I suppose... EVERYONE knows how to pronounce Texas.

Making allowances for the immigrants who pronounce it the Spanish way, of course.
And the Alabamans who make it three syllables. TAY-EX-ESS
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 17:43
What sucks is that I live in New Jersey.  People pronounce Jersey fine, but they seem to think that we don't.

And I gotta be honest, a lot of people don't.  Whenever I hear someone with what outsiders consider a "Jersey accent", it causes me pain.  (And don't get me started on Jersey Shore, because I'd be useless there.  I've never seen it.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kal on 05 May 2011, 18:00
The rain thing is ridiculously exaggerated.  I live a bit south of Portland and this is what the weather is like:

Winter - It rains about 66% of the time, 75% at most.  The rest of the time it's just cold, with a very bland white sky (due to the sunlight bouncing around in the cloud cover).
Spring - There's at least as much sunshine as there is rain.  Between those there's some white sky days.  This time of year offers a lot of lovely breezes.  The flowers and new leaves look startlingly vivid after rain, and somewhat less so but still beautiful the rest of the time.  Overall, the spring weather alternates frequently and doesn't let you get bored.
Summer - No rain.  None.  Low humidity.  We do hit 99 degrees Fahrenheit occasionally; the usual temperature in summer is between 70-75 and 85-90.
Autumn - Kinda like spring, but different color palette.  Also, the weather is generally uninteresting, with more white sky days than spring and less rain than winter.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: ysth on 05 May 2011, 18:08
This (http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/9/23/how-to-pronounce-oregon.html) is where I learned its pronunciation.
Funnier if you know that Coos Bay is in Redneck-Oregon, not Hipster-Oregon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: butternutsquashed on 05 May 2011, 18:08
This (http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/9/23/how-to-pronounce-oregon.html) is where I learned its pronunciation.

I literally just made an account for the sole purpose of posting that link. Congratulations, sir, for beating me to the punch.

As someone who grew up in Portland, I want to say that this notion of the city as a mecca of suffocating hipster smugness didn't get so dangerously close to being true until all sorts of national publications developed this weird fixation on talking about it all the time. First you get the New York Times writing about our food carts, and then Portlandia comes out, and now even QC is cracking jokes. Golly.

I mean, sure, there are a lot of indie-music-listening, flannel-wearing, outdoorsy, fair-trade-espresso-drinking, sustainably-minded people here, but you've also got plenty of raging conservative property-rights activists, SUV drivers, soccer moms, obese mall-shoppers, and homeless people, just like you'd see in every other city in America.

It used to be only Californians we'd worry about, but jeez, now that the hipsters are even flooding in from Massachusetts... please! There still aren't any jobs here, and you guys are not helping.

It's crazy, though... before I came to Boston for college, I really didn't think most people on the other side of the country would even know where Portland was on a map, let alone have stereotypes. The world's a funny place.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: calmcalamity on 05 May 2011, 19:04
100% agree with Kal
i often feel blessed to have been raised in a land of such natural beauty and relative stability
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 05 May 2011, 19:05
It's crazy, though... before I came to Boston for college, I really didn't think most people on the other side of the country would even know where Portland was on a map, let alone have stereotypes.
Hey, I live on the other side of the planet, and I have stereotypes about Portland. It's a global village.

After living the first 20 years of my life in Illinois, there isn't much that grates on me more than hearing someone say "ell-ih-noy" or, even worse, "ill-ih-noiz". I do remember there was some local TV personality who combined the two into "ell-ih-noiz" and it made me want to punch him.
I feel the same way about people who pronounce Beijing as Beige-ing instead of Bay-jing, but perhaps I should be more patient if there are those who can't pronounce their own home state correctly. Sydney is easy to pronounce (rhymes with kidney), but if you want to sound like a local, it is "Sinny", which someone from Melbourne (Melb'n not Mel-born, and a resident is a Mel-BURN-ian) would say was completely appropriate.

This (http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/9/23/how-to-pronounce-oregon.html) is where I learned its pronunciation.
I say OR-a-g'n, with a "short" O as at the beginning of "office" or "on", so I guess I'm close. The comic strip's advice to pronounce it "Or a gun" would lead an Australian to say "Aw-a-gun". I do approve of the strip's advice that "the people who live there determine how a place name is pronounced", but I wonder how the artist pronounces Beijing...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 05 May 2011, 19:33
The conversation about pronunciation amuses me.  Everyone gets all defensive about how their corner of the US pronounces things, which states have funny accents, all that jazz.  Of course, to the rest of the world there's a slight difference when you go from North to South and that's pretty much it.  Y'all are just 'Mericans to us!

Because, I think if anyone has the right to claim worst injury in accent-related shenanigans, we Aussies have a decent argument there.  Listening to people cry, "Gidday mayyyyyte!  Threw ah shiiiiimp on the baaaaaahbie!" whenever they find out we're Australian is the kind of torture that only the worst of us shall have to endure in Hell.  The other Aussies on here know what I'm talking about.  ;)
Or hell, just try listening to this commercial for Outback Steakhouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tswvz_cG9LY&feature=related) without breaking down crying.  I couldn't.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 05 May 2011, 20:01
"Gidday mayyyyyte!  Threw ah shiiiiimp on the baaaaaahbie!"
Ugh... But we can only blame ourselves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_CPrCS8gs) for that. We chose to make Paul Hogan our spokesbogan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8gJoT5yl4).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 20:20
When I think of crazy Australian accents. I think of Claire from Lost.

"CHAHLEE!  THEY'VE GOT MY BYE-BEE!  CHAAAAAAAAHLEEE!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 05 May 2011, 20:23
"Gidday mayyyyyte!  Threw ah shiiiiimp on the baaaaaahbie!"
Ugh... But we can only blame ourselves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_CPrCS8gs) for that. We chose to make Paul Hogan our spokesbogan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8gJoT5yl4).

Hey, I'll admit to watching The Hogan Show as a kid, but I never voted for that bloke to become our spokesperson.

On a related topic, there was one time I was visiting the USA and I was shopping when I heard a broad "criiiikey" from the large TV overhead.

After watching for a couple of minutes, people were trying to figure out why I was crying from laughing so hard.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 05 May 2011, 20:28
When I think of crazy Australian accents. I think of Claire from Lost.

"CHAHLEE!  THEY'VE GOT MY BYE-BEE!  CHAAAAAAAAHLEEE!"


Maiybee the dee-ngo aeyte your bye-bee.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: calmcalamity on 05 May 2011, 20:29
Or hell, just try listening to this commercial for Outback Steakhouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tswvz_cG9LY&feature=related) without breaking down crying.  I couldn't.
trust me, there are probably plenty of Americans like myself that are sick of listening to those damned commercials
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 05 May 2011, 20:32
I know, I know.  Our parents have much to answer for by letting that stereotype take place.  I do the best I can to make my position clear when I meet new friends from overseas with a short list.

1 - If you irritate me, I will not say "Crikey".  The language I will use will be considerably blunter and more colourful.
2 - No, I do not want a Fosters.  The reason we export that carbonated fairy urine is because nobody in Australia drinks it.
3 - Shrimp are tiny little things used to bait fishhooks.  If I'm going to grill some seafood, it will be a prawn.
4 - It was later confirmed that the dingo really did kill that lady's daughter.  Stop making jokes about it.
5 - Kangaroos are not horses, Koalas are vicious sharp-clawed little bastards, and I am no more willing to fight a crocodile than you are.
6 - If you don't stop mimicking my accent I will set you on fire.

I actually printed that out on a card that I carried around in my pocket at one point.  :D  Seemed to get the point across well!  Until someone asked if I could sign it and give it to them.  And yes, I swear to God, that actually happened.   :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 21:04
2 - No, I do not want a Fosters.  The reason we export that carbonated fairy urine is because nobody in Australia drinks it.
You guys have Fosters, but us Yanks have Bud/Coors/Miller.  The trifecta of watery crap-beers.  I haven't had Foster, so I don't know if it's worse than say, Coors (which, when extremely cold, has the decency to at least like nothing.  Not like nothing else, just absolutely devoid of flavor.)  But anyway, despite the popularity of those three, there are actually good American beers.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 05 May 2011, 21:45
*nods*

I've been to maybe three pubs in my life that had Fosters on tap.  Those that sold it kept it in the bottom of the fridge, at the back, out of the way... because nobody ever asked for it, but deals with breweries mean they'd at least have it in stock.  I could understand the stereotype if it was just a bad beer popular with bogans, but it's not even at that standard.  Literally nobody I know drinks it at all, because there's other, far more tolerable beers, that cost less... and many other excellent beers that cost only slightly more.

So yeah, we feel each other's pain, MoM.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 22:03
Well what sucks is that at least Australians know Foster is shit.  But the shit beer over here is the most popular.  So at least it makes sense for people to think American beer is shitty because most Americans drink shitty beer.  And I can understand drinking it, say, at home with friends, because you can get a 30 pack of shitty beer for like $10.  But if you go to a bar, and a pint of Miller Light is $5, and a pint of a delicious IPA is also $5, and you still buy Miller Light...well, that's when you've lost me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 05 May 2011, 22:14
Lets look at it from Steve's perspective.
Steve's major girlfriends (from what we've seen) have consisted of an overly-needy marine student, a pathology assistant who still lived with her literally perfect ex-boyfriend (whom she dumped Steve for, and promptly married him by all accounts), not to mention Tortura,the scarred Russian Villianess who had Steve in what looked like a torture/bondage session, now on the run from the Department. And currently, but not least, we have Cosette, a woman whose clumsy mishaps would put Inspector Clouseau to shame.

Then, we have Steve's father, a man who has been married 4 times, or perhaps three times, even Steve is a little confused about that, which might indicate that his father has a revolving door leading to his bedroom.

So, Steve looks at his best friend, Marten Reed, a guy, who looking at his past should be all kinds of messed up - parents divorced, gay dad with a nightclub, world famous dominatrix for a mother. Yet despite this, Martin is relatively normal. So, imagine Steve's surprise when his normal pal ends up being in a relationship with a hot, former goth, without, to him, many inhibitions, a fiery ass and is a successful buisness woman. Even Steve has told Marten that he wished he could have the same kind of relationship with a girl that Marten had with Dora. Suddenly, Marten is the relationship role-model for Steve, especially to the point where Dora is moving in with Marten.

And, oop, pretty much out of nowhere, to our resident himbo, Dora and Marten have broken up, the status quo has been shaken up, and now, for Steve, seeing what looked like a stable enough relationship collapse like that has given him cause for concern, and now that mental filter is forgotten about as Steve's insecurities have started rising to the surface.

Duuuuuude, Steve is turning into the Dora in his relationship!


.... I seriously wish I had that kind of profound insight. That would be useful for things.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: St.Clair on 05 May 2011, 22:35
Fucking Portland.  The rest of us have to put up with 'em, you know.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 05 May 2011, 22:57
@MoM: Phew. Thanks for explaining your preference. I was a bit worried for a moment there - just in case it turned out that Michelob would be the brew of your choice :evil:

Fosters? May be I lose my beer cred for good, but I once sorta enjoyed it.:oops: My excuse is that I had just spent the night racing thru forests and swamps looking for control points. So after sauna and shower I was horribly dehydrated, and Fosters was what they were serving at the beer tent.

Local watering holes here serve local lager. That works well after sport or a warm day. If I have the time, and am in a group of like-minded friends, then we go find a place serving hefeweiz. Those didn't exist, when I was young, but thankfully they now do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Sorflakne on 05 May 2011, 23:09
You can tell that the chick in the first panel is so not into that guy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 05 May 2011, 23:47
"Gidday mayyyyyte!  Threw ah shiiiiimp on the baaaaaahbie!"
Ugh... But we can only blame ourselves (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn_CPrCS8gs) for that. We chose to make Paul Hogan our spokesbogan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8gJoT5yl4).

Or Steve Irwin?


Personally, if I was an Aussie, I'dve voted for Peter Brock
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2011, 23:47
@Skewbrow I've had Michelob, and I guess it's kind of ok?  But I would never choose it. I usually go for whatever IPA the place has on tap, and failing that, Yuengling.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: calmcalamity on 06 May 2011, 00:27
it's interesting to note that even though this thread has changed it's subject to beer now that still relates to Portland in a round-about way, in that Bridgecity has the most microbreweries of any city in the world, and Oregon in general ranks third in the nation for it's amount of breweries
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 06 May 2011, 00:34
Personally, if I was an Aussie, I'dve voted for Peter Brock

One of my favourite quotes is from Peter Brock: "Bite off more than you can chew and then chew like hell."
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: snubnose on 06 May 2011, 00:48
You can tell that the chick in the first panel is so not into that guy.
... how can you tell THAT ? She's casually drinking in that panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 May 2011, 01:33
You can tell that the chick in the first panel is so not into that guy.
... how can you tell THAT ? She's casually drinking in that panel.

She's that occasional redhead that pops up from time to time. Outside of CoD, in that bar looking disgusted at Steve and Martin's conversationBROFORCE talk....
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: snubnose on 06 May 2011, 02:12
Interesting.

On another note, whats up with the new comic ?  :? Its really late today ... will we get the secret backery again or something ?  :-D


P.s.: Forget that. Yay, Comic ! I dont have any best year of music, either. Though I think a certain climax of music was in the 1960s with the Beatles (long before my time).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 06 May 2011, 02:41
I don't have a favorite year either... 1997 was kind of crappy for metal though  :-(
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: sidpatt on 06 May 2011, 02:48
Man, I'm glad I don't still think the music I liked when I was sixteen was the best music ever.

That or they're just indulging in some hipster retro-history, which makes perfect sense coming right after the Portlandia comic.

(Not to mention, if you're listing the best stuff from 1997, how do you omit Portishead, Faye?)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SleeperCylon on 06 May 2011, 03:13
Don't worry Faye.  I would have said 1967.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 May 2011, 03:36
Faye's expressions today are particularly well done, I feel.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 May 2011, 03:38
I can't even remember most of the music I was listening to in 1997. Okay, maybe just the Brit Awards.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_32q2zR8m0)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Delator on 06 May 2011, 04:13
We just call 'em "FIBS" up here.

I usually don't call 'em that unless I see 'em driving. Then all bets are off.  :-D

I've been meaning to ask you whereabouts in Wisconsin you're located? I'm in the Fox Valley myself.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2011, 04:27
We just call 'em "FIBS" up here.

I usually don't call 'em that unless I see 'em driving. Then all bets are off.  :-D

I've been meaning to ask you whereabouts in Wisconsin you're located? I'm in the Fox Valley myself.

Once upon a time, I used to be located in the civilized portion of the state (Waukesha).

Now I live in the Great North Woods, "Upnort" between Wausau and Tomahawk.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2011, 04:32
Looks like Angus is perfectly willing to join a GOM local.  Some of us are more willing than others.   

Man, I'm glad I don't still think the music I liked when I was sixteen was the best music ever.

Thank god my kids have good taste (well, at least I agree with some of it).  They got me back into more current music a couple of years ago.  Otherwise, I'd be completely livin' in the past! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: cat_rant on 06 May 2011, 04:36
The conversation about pronunciation amuses me.  Everyone gets all defensive about how their corner of the US pronounces things, which states have funny accents, all that jazz.  Of course, to the rest of the world there's a slight difference when you go from North to South and that's pretty much it.  Y'all are just 'Mericans to us!

Because, I think if anyone has the right to claim worst injury in accent-related shenanigans, we Aussies have a decent argument there.  Listening to people cry, "Gidday mayyyyyte!  Threw ah shiiiiimp on the baaaaaahbie!" whenever they find out we're Australian is the kind of torture that only the worst of us shall have to endure in Hell.  The other Aussies on here know what I'm talking about.  ;)
Or hell, just try listening to this commercial for Outback Steakhouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tswvz_cG9LY&feature=related) without breaking down crying.  I couldn't.

Begosh & Begarah Tergon, sure you've never met an Oirish lad or lassie have yeh?  :wink: I know the pain you are feeling.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odal on 06 May 2011, 04:41
Faye is kind of reminding me of those people who think the best music was in the 90s and there'll never be better music (I'm sure it's the same for other decades too).  

[rant]
And it's the people who only get their music from the glowing box in their living room, which always sucked anyways- but no wonder they thought the 90s were better.  Over time mainstream music only gets worse and worse.  So it's natural that they liked the 90s since that's when the music from the glowing box was less worse than it is now in their lifetime.  Sometimes I just wanna shake people like this...  their mainstream sucked in the 90s and it still sucks.  They need to go on the fuckin' internet and do some research if they're going to complain that music these days sucks.  The've got the best technology humans have ever had to find good music now, and people are still staring at a box which tells them what to like and complaining that it sucks.
[endrant]

And yes, I know Faye wasn't talking about that exactly, but she is reminding me of these people.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tova on 06 May 2011, 05:02
"You realize that officially makes you OLD, right?"

He says that like it's a bad thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: rje on 06 May 2011, 05:15
Well, I still like my 90s mainstream music better than the mainstream music I've heard today, even though I don't watch the glowing metal box anymore. I mean en total, there's plenty of musicians out now I like, but I get less all encompassing enjoyment than I did back then.

Not to say there wasn't stuff back then that utterly sucked ass. I mean there always was, always will be. Maybe it nostalgia goggles, I can admit that. However -  I will believe with every fiber of my being that the discovery of auto tune was a blight upon the musical landscape. A BLIIIIGHT
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 May 2011, 05:17
Yeah, the available alternative to getting old really limits future options.

My oldest started off likeing similar music to what my wife and I were playing in car - but we had to stop certain albums as we really didn't want him singing the Pogues when he went off to school.  Now he wants pop tripe like Lady Gaga, Black Eyed Peas mixed in with his CCR...

As for beer, I know I've come across as someone quite reasoned on this before, but lets face it most mass produced beers (Molson Cdn, Coors, Labatt's Blue, Heinekin, Carlsberg, Fosters, etc.) are bland and featureless beers designed to appeal to the masses by the virtue of being inexpensive and inoffensive.  I've had really good beers from many places in this world (there are definitely some places though where I would recomend that they stick to other alcoholic beverages - I'm looking at you France).

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 05:28
Nobody can label you old.

You GOTTA EARN IT!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 06 May 2011, 06:04
Begosh & Begarah Tergon, sure you've never met an Oirish lad or lassie have yeh?  :wink: I know the pain you are feeling.

Says the Dubliner. (You forgot the shillelagh too, typical.)





People's Republic of Cork forever!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Nooby on 06 May 2011, 06:41
This (http://i.imgur.com/McckZ.png) remindet me a little of the Girl in yesterdays Strip. (1919)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: DJRubberducky on 06 May 2011, 07:31
Steve has busted Marten's balls from almost the very first time we met him.  I speak from personal experience when I say this - some guys that are best friends do this.

It took me *years* to even acknowledge the humanity of one of my husband's college buddies, because Friend was like this to Husband.  (What didn't help was that it wasn't very mutual, that not being Husband's nature, and that Husband had confided to me earlier that he had a hard time making friends, so I thought he might be tolerating abuse for the sake of company.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Aegir on 06 May 2011, 07:36
I'm really mean to most of my friends besides the ones who are bipolar.

I really like the last two comics, they're very classic QC. I wonder how old Faye is supposed to be. I think the self-referential joke in 1920 is that Jeph was in his late teens in 1997, but I feel like Faye's supposed to be younger than 30.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 06 May 2011, 07:49
Personally, if I was an Aussie, I'dve voted for Peter Brock
Ugh... Lee Lin Chin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZIN02mTgeA) for the win!

Faye's expressions today are particularly well done, I feel.
I concur. They're very well done indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 May 2011, 07:49
@TheEvilDog:

I shall be shuttling between Corcaigh and Baile Atha Cliath in a few weeks time. Which way was it again in the old cartoon? The horse is drinking from a barrel of Guinness while pissing into a barrel of Murphy's? Or the other way around? With a view of trying not to provoke a violent reaction from the locals?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Jabberwocky on 06 May 2011, 08:14
1984 was the best year for music.  *shakes old geezer fist*

Also, Angus' comment in the last panel makes me a little sad.  R.I.P. George Carlin and Mitch Hedberg.   :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 08:57
1975!

A Night At The Opera! Has NEVER been topped!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: bunnyThor on 06 May 2011, 09:27
I wonder how old Faye is supposed to be. I think the self-referential joke in 1920 is that Jeph was in his late teens in 1997, but I feel like Faye's supposed to be younger than 30.

Faye was 24, same age as Marten, at the start of the strip. So she's probably about 25 now.

This means that her musical tastes became fixed when she was about 11.  :|

And unless her town in Georgia had an awesome alt-rock station that really brought in the pre-teens, the music from 1997 that she was actually listening to is more like:

1. Candle in the Wind, Elton John
2. Foolish Games/You Were Meant for Me, Jewel
3. I'll Be Missing You, Puff Daddy and Faith Evans
4. Un-Break My Heart, Toni Braxton
5. Can't Nobody Hold Me Down, Puff Daddy
6. I Believe I Can Fly, R. Kelly
7. Don't Let Go (Love), En Vogue
8. Return of the Mack, Mark Morrison
9. How Do I Live, LeAnn Rimes
10. Wannabe, Spice Girls
11. Quit Playing Games (With My Heart), Backstreet Boys
12. MMMBop, Hanson
13. For You I Will, Monica
14. You Make Me Wanna..., Usher
15. Bitch, Meredith Brooks

Yeah, not a lot of alt-rockin' on the airwaves going on then.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 May 2011, 09:39
If QC started in the present (then), and has moved, say two years on, then it is at least four years behind the present (now); so Faye would have been more like 16 or so in 1997, which seems reasonable.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2011, 09:52
This (http://basicinstructions.net/basic-instructions/2010/9/23/how-to-pronounce-oregon.html) is where I learned its pronunciation.

I literally just made an account for the sole purpose of posting that link. Congratulations, sir, for beating me to the punch.

Welcome here nonetheless.


1975!

A Night At The Opera! Has NEVER been topped!

I might say 1975 as well.  A Night at the Opera, Blood On the Tracks, Physical Graffiti, Tommy (the movie), Fleetwood Mac, Win, Lose, or Draw, Wish You Were Here.  Born to Run, for God's sake.  Either 1975 or maybe '78; Blue Valentine, Darkness on the Edge of Town, Excitable Boy, Dire Straits, Outlandos D'Amour, etc.

And yes, I realize that we only hear the best stuff from the past, but I still like it better than what I consider the best of the present.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Heliphyneau on 06 May 2011, 10:14
However -  I will believe with every fiber of my being that the discovery of auto tune was a blight upon the musical landscape. A BLIIIIGHT

I'm with you on that, but I concede that I do like this one instance of its use:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk)

I don't think I could pick a single "best year for music" -- there's good stuff and a whole mess of crap every single year, some years are better than others . . . eh.  Doesn't mean I'm not a GOW, though.  Plenty of other reasons for people to get off my lawn.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jacjyd on 06 May 2011, 11:14
If QC started in the present (then), and has moved, say two years on, then it is at least four years behind the present (now); so Faye would have been more like 16 or so in 1997, which seems reasonable.
Ahhhh comic relativity...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 11:20
However -  I will believe with every fiber of my being that the discovery of auto tune was a blight upon the musical landscape. A BLIIIIGHT
I'm with you on that, but I concede that...

What's the problem with auto-tune? Just don't friggin' use it! I pretty much gave up on car radio a few years ago.

I vote for my music with my wallet! I BUY a licensed copy of the music and put it on my mp3 player.

Commercial radio has outlived it's usefulness! Don't get me started on the inaccurate and untimely 'traffic reports' or what they claim to be 'news'!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2011, 11:36
...which is why I only listen to non-commercial public radio.  Best news and music by a long shot. 

And for indy music past & present, I recommend WYEP online (http://wyep.org/listen/).  I got it at home and in the orifice office. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 May 2011, 11:41
What's the problem with auto-tune?

The problem with Auto-Tune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune)? For instance:

Quote
Seattle- based indie rockers, Death Cab for Cutie took up a cause at the 51st annual Grammy awards this year, by sporting light blue ribbons on their jackets to protest the use of Auto-Tune. Auto-Tune is a software program that digitally corrects the pitch of a singer's voice, and according to Death Cab frontman Ben Gibbard, it's been over used.

"I think over the last 10 years, we've seen a lot of good musicians being affected by this newfound digital manipulation of the human voice, and we feel enough is enough."
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 06 May 2011, 11:43
C'mon, people I was hoping this strip would get you to talk about your favorite years (or decades, if that's easier) for music! I want some album recommendations!  :-D  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 11:46
C'mon, people I was hoping this strip would get you to talk about your favorite years (or decades, if that's easier) for music! I want some album recommendations!  :-D  :mrgreen:

Here We Go Again
       - Kingston Trio 1959   :-D



EDIT: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: celticgeek on 06 May 2011, 11:58
Yes, and the rest of the late 50's - early 60's folk movement.

Folkscare (http://www.zipcon.com/~highroad/folkscare.html)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 12:00
You mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IlShKGgfjM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IlShKGgfjM)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: celticgeek on 06 May 2011, 12:03
Absolutely!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 12:11
Whoa, wait a second.

Your post had a link to a legitemate [sp?] site about second-tier folk singer compliations.

I countered with a link to a absolute sacastic commentary on the Folk movement.

Was your reply double-ironic or did you miss the sarcasm?

Me cornfused  :?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 06 May 2011, 12:16

Faye was 24, same age as Marten, at the start of the strip. So she's probably about 25 now.

This means that her musical tastes became fixed when she was about 11.  :|

And unless her town in Georgia had an awesome alt-rock station that really brought in the pre-teens, the music from 1997 that she was actually listening to is more like:

-snip-

Yeah, not a lot of alt-rockin' on the airwaves going on then.

I grew up in Georgia and am really nostalgiac for 90s music of the alt-rock type. We had some great stations to listen to. Also, though my two favorite albums came out in 98 (Darkest Days by Stabbing Westward) and 99 (Neon Ballroom by Silverchair) which was when I was 15ish, I listened to a lot of alt-rock music that was released much much earlier. Its not like you can ONLY listen to music that was just released that year.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 May 2011, 12:32
The album that started me thinking (http://cgi.ebay.com/KARLHEINZ-STOCKHAUSEN-very-1st-10-Golden-Tulip-DGG-/260523268688?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D250792663873%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D8965730301425914934)...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: mike837go on 06 May 2011, 12:38
I'm gonna lead off by playing my GOM card: My kids were 8 and 10 in 2000. So my 1990's music world was Mostly Sesame Street and Raffi.
Thank Goodness Tom Chapin released some new kids material in the late 90's.

My wife and I got quite a surprise, though. Mr. Chapin had a kids-oriented song about sexual reproduction on one of his ealier tapes. He re-recorded it with the help of Dr. Ruth Westheimer! I almost drove off the road with all 4 of us in the car, I was laughing so hard.

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My son will turn 21 this year and loves Tull, Zepplin, Pink Floyd, Queen, etc. I call him "Hopelessly Square". That's MY music! For pity's sake!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: sidpatt on 06 May 2011, 12:59
Don't worry Faye.  I would have said 1967.

This is the correct response to today's comic.

Velvet Underground & Nico (plus Nico's Chelsea Girl)
two good Beatles albums
two good Jimi Hendrix albums
probably about four Bob Dylan records
The Doors' first two albums
Pink Floyd debuts
Etta James and Aretha going strong (Aretha releases her version of R.E.S.P.E.C.T.)
The Who Sell Out
Cream releases Disraeli Gears (w/"Sunshine of Your Love")

Other Singles:
"White Rabbit," Jefferson Airplane
"She's a Rainbow," Rolling Stones
"Nights in White Satin," the Moody Blues

Louis Armstrong releases "What a Wonderful World" on 1/1/68

And probably a bunch of other stuff I didn't mention.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: cat_rant on 06 May 2011, 13:04

Says the Dubliner. (You forgot the shillelagh too, typical.)

People's Republic of Cork forever!
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  =D Regional \ County alegances aside Irish are type cast and misrepresented in general. I do however make my annual pilgrimage to Cork for to celebrate my increasing age... Usually the best session of the year!

Anyways Back on track....Does anyone else really hate Steve?

 And I am disappointed by Faye and her music snobbery. However it is entirely possible that Faye was heavily influenced by musical tastes of those around her e.g. Family or friends. My closets friends during my teenage years were all older than me... It could have been the same for her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 06 May 2011, 13:08
I love Faye's reaction in the 3rd panel.

My music tastes are songs that I like the sound of. Never really could get into bands because I'd hear one song by a band and...not really like the other songs they put out. As a result, I tend to have to a lot of singles on my iPod. I mean, the closest to a full album I have is 10 songs from The Platinum Collection by Queen.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2011, 13:26
I honestly can't pick a decade, let alone a year.  I grew up not only with my parent's record collections (my mom was a Gerry Mulligan & Chet Baker fan, and my dad had Benny Goodman, Alan Sherman, Tom Lehrer, and the soundtrack to every musical they'd ever seen - they lived near Broadway in the late 50's/early 60's, so we're talking Fiorello!, The Pyjama Game, How to Succeed in Business, The Fantasticks, ...) but I also spent my high school years around the corner from a used record store.  My Jethro Tull collection is complete (pre 1984), and Janis Joplin, some '70's British folk rock (Pentangle, Steeleye Span), Kingston Trio, Pete Seeger, Arlo Guthrie (Alice's Restaurant, natch).  I got into classical in the 90's, and am still an avid listener, so I missed a decade or two of "new" music. 

Then my girls got me into things like The Weepies, The Decemberists, Death Cab for Cutie, Regina Spektor, ...

It's a great feeling not to be limited by what you know only from your own past.  There's great stuff out there, just open those ears! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2011, 13:27
Faye was 24, same age as Marten, at the start of the strip. So she's probably about 25 now.
Oh, dude.  I'm 23 now, but when I started reading QC I was about 19, just starting college.  Now I just realized that I'll be older than Marten and Faye in a couple years (maybe a little more, depending on time skips).  Not sure why this is notable, but yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: celticgeek on 06 May 2011, 13:42
Whoa, wait a second.

Your post had a link to a legitemate [sp?] site about second-tier folk singer compliations.

I countered with a link to a absolute sacastic commentary on the Folk movement.

Was your reply double-ironic or did you miss the sarcasm?

Me cornfused  :?

I didn't miss the sarcasm, I was just commenting on the music that I liked, including Tom Lehrer's.  So, pretty much doubly ironic.  I grew up with county/bluegrass/folk music, and really loved it.  I prefer the very early Bob Dylan and Joan Baez to most of their later work.  And I also enjoyed the various Tom Lehrer protest songs ("Wehrner Von Braun", "The Vatican Rag").

I enjoyed the music and the commentary on the idiocy of various things pointed out by that music, and I still enjoy the political commentary of various satirists like Roy Zimmerman and the Capitol Steps.  However, I also enjoy the political commentary of an older generation, Mark Twain, for example.

Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 06 May 2011, 14:03
Faye was 24, same age as Marten, at the start of the strip. So she's probably about 25 now.
Oh, dude.  I'm 23 now, but when I started reading QC I was about 19, just starting college.  Now I just realized that I'll be older than Marten and Faye in a couple years (maybe a little more, depending on time skips).  Not sure why this is notable, but yeah.
If it's notable to you, then that's enough.

At least, that's what the mods told me to say.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 May 2011, 14:11
Call the borgs. We hit a time warp. Not years. Decades or centuries. For me the best year is whichever was the best for Simon & Garfunkel or Manhattan Transfer. Me high school flame used her feminine viles to get me to watch "The Wall"as in Pink Floyd, which was ok, I guess. But the one and only Joplin is Scott, and (Sam the Eagle, help me here) Bach ruuuulllzzz.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: celticgeek on 06 May 2011, 14:20
Sibelius, for the win.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 May 2011, 14:44
Yess! I <3 u. When's the last time I played Sibelius' Etude? Oh, I don't have a piano around! Guess that explains it. Karelia suite on my iPod.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Kugai on 06 May 2011, 14:45
I have favorites, everybody does.

But I don't limit my taste.  Hell, if it's good and I like it, I'll listen to it.




I don't like Prunes.    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2011, 14:55
However -  I will believe with every fiber of my being that the discovery of auto tune was a blight upon the musical landscape. A BLIIIIGHT

I'm with you on that, but I concede that I do like this one instance of its use:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk)

I don't think I could pick a single "best year for music" -- there's good stuff and a whole mess of crap every single year, some years are better than others . . . eh.  Doesn't mean I'm not a GOW, though.  Plenty of other reasons for people to get off my lawn.

I think that autotune should only ever have been used to make that kind of video and never ever in music of any other kind.  In other news: would it be offensive to autotune a video of Stephen Hawking?  Or a step further, to straight up add autotune to his speech machine?  

Discuss.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 06 May 2011, 15:00
I'm not old, I'm still in my mid-twenties, and will attempt to remain so for a couple of years yet. I figure, if you just keep your age as a general decade, it doesn't make you that old. Then again, you're only as old as you make yourself.

Music-wise, I think I've got a good, stable foundation from the 60s with The Who (There maybe only be two band members left, but goddamn, they are amazing live), moving up to 90s Grunge and Rock with Sound Garden, Jane's Addiction, Pearl Jam and Foo Fighters, with Breaking Benjamin for the late 90s/early 00s and some Audioslave thrown in there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2011, 15:04
Call the borgs. We hit a time warp. Not years. Decades or centuries. For me the best year is whichever was the best for Simon & Garfunkel or Manhattan Transfer. Me high school flame used her feminine viles to get me to watch "The Wall"as in Pink Floyd, which was ok, I guess. But the one and only Joplin is Scott, and (Sam the Eagle, help me here) Bach ruuuulllzzz.

I also prefer Scott to Janis in terms of Joplins, but it seems to me that her voice is very much an acquired taste (which I have not acquired) whereas it is basically universally agreed that ridiculous awesome ragtime piano is more or less the best thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: celticgeek on 06 May 2011, 15:05

I think that autotune should only ever have been used to make that kind of video and never ever in music of any other kind.  In other news: would it be offensive to autotune a video of Stephen Hawking?  Or a step further, to straight up add autotune to his speech machine? 

Discuss.

I remember reading somewhere that many people have offered to update the software and the voice for Stephen Hawking's text-to-voice system, and that he has resisted this.  I cannot, of course, find the reference now, but I will keep looking.

Edit:  Now, of course, I found that he has chosen a new voice:   Stephen Hawking New Voice (http://www.gizmag.com/go/2708/)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2011, 15:09
To Carl - It's not quite what you meant, but yo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20LWam5KMQg).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 May 2011, 15:43
@MoM: Sorry 'bout going a bit off-topic here. Just remembered, where I had seen 'Madness' & 'Method' in the same sentence. The title of one of the trickier levels of Lemmings (anyone else here spent days trying to save them little critters?) was 'There's madness in the method'. IIRC I had to ask a friend for a hint with that one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: numbvox on 06 May 2011, 16:00
I just wanted to jump in and say the following:

Music... in QC?  What is this, retro-QC day?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 06 May 2011, 16:31
Sibelius, for the win.

Oddities corner: I have a CD of Sibelius's music for organ.  Possibly the most interesting thing on it is a piece that he admitted uses material taken from his eighth symphony, which he destroyed.  Buying the CD meant finding the web site of an obscure Finnish recording company and then navigating the site and shop entirely in Finnish...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 06 May 2011, 17:14
...Just an interesting observation on the whole perception and for instance how bunnyThor mentioned the "Town" that Faye came from. Do people not realise we have cities down here? She is from Savannah, which has a higher population density than the area of Easthampton (the part of Hampshire County with the highest population density). She is still from a city. Hell it nearly has as big of a population as Hampshire County(~140,000 in Savannah, ~150,000 Hampshire County), with only ~14% of the land area.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: St.Clair on 06 May 2011, 17:51
I live in Eugene, Oregon (which will give some context to the earlier comments about Portland), population a little over 150k.  I still call and think of it as a "a college town."

(the "small town" I grew up about a mile from, by contrast, has a population of just under 1k.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 06 May 2011, 18:05
I live in Eugene, Oregon (which will give some context to the earlier comments about Portland), population a little over 150k.  I still call and think of it as a "a college town."

(the "small town" I grew up about a mile from, by contrast, has a population of just under 1k.)

College town is a term that isn't really the same as saying a town with a college in it. A lot of college towns are actually cities. I live in Athens, GA, which is also a "college town" but if I was asked whether I lived in a town or a city, I would respond with city, because that is what it actually is from a government standpoint. Same with Eugene.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2011, 19:04
Cher is the one to blame for the autotune morass. Ever since that ungodly "Believe", producers have used it to death.

My "year in music" isn't one particular year, though my tastes were hair bands like Def Leppard, Whitesnake and Bon Jovi. (No, I don't listen to that stuff anymore.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Odin on 06 May 2011, 19:30
I'm just going to borrow these wise words by Chris Hastings:

(http://i.imgur.com/72nUw.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 06 May 2011, 19:42
Funnily enough I was listening to some songs on random just as I read that comic and what came on? Johnny Cash's version of Hurt.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2011, 20:43
I live in Eugene, Oregon (which will give some context to the earlier comments about Portland), population a little over 150k.  I still call and think of it as a "a college town."

(the "small town" I grew up about a mile from, by contrast, has a population of just under 1k.)

College town is a term that isn't really the same as saying a town with a college in it. A lot of college towns are actually cities. I live in Athens, GA, which is also a "college town" but if I was asked whether I lived in a town or a city, I would respond with city, because that is what it actually is from a government standpoint. Same with Eugene.
Exactly.  Hell, Boston is a "college town".

@MoM: Sorry 'bout going a bit off-topic here. Just remembered, where I had seen 'Madness' & 'Method' in the same sentence. The title of one of the trickier levels of Lemmings (anyone else here spent days trying to save them little critters?) was 'There's madness in the method'. IIRC I had to ask a friend for a hint with that one.
Man, I haven't played Lemmings in years.  But nope, not where I got it from.  (Its origin is in my sig, btw)
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2011, 21:44
Dr. McNinja is tied with QC, Bad Machinery, and Nedroid Picture Diary for my favourite webcomic.  There all so awesome in different ways.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 06 May 2011, 23:15
Lemmings, you say? (http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/)

No need to thank me.  :P  Alternatively, if it eats up all your free time (and it will) that's not my fault.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 07 May 2011, 00:56
You are a bad man!
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 07 May 2011, 01:18
A bad man who is TOTALLY WINNING AT LEMMINGS.  And I'm clearly doing better than you, unless you think you can do better.  Think you can win it?  Huh?  Huh?

Not that I'm tempting you to waste time, I'm just saying, you're totally lame if you don't play Lemmings because I'm so much better at it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: akronnick on 07 May 2011, 01:33
Is it wrong that I heard that in GLaDOS's voice?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Tergon on 07 May 2011, 02:01
I could totally see the Lemmings' puzzle maps as parts of the Enrichment center.  Of course this is before they developed the Aperture Science Handheld Portal Device, and GLaDOS started running individual trials rather than group ones.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 07 May 2011, 03:21
Lemmings, you say? (http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/)

No need to thank me.  :P  Alternatively, if it eats up all your free time (and it will) that's not my fault.

Thanks for the link. I so miss the cheerful toe-tapping tunes of the DOS version an obviously cracked copy I got from a friend who got it from .... This is similar to the windows versionat which point I decided to still my conscience by buying a legal copy, but missing the live action replay -feature, which is for cheats and other crooks, but ever so useful, when I cannot afford to mess up my sleeping schedule (or prolong the coffee break unduly).

@MoM: Sorry 'bout going a bit off-topic here. Just remembered, where I had seen 'Madness' & 'Method' in the same sentence. The title of one of the trickier levels of Lemmings (anyone else here spent days trying to save them little critters?) was 'There's madness in the method'. IIRC I had to ask a friend for a hint with that one.
Man, I haven't played Lemmings in years.  But nope, not where I got it from.  (Its origin is in my sig, btw)
That's what I thought. Since I didn't recall a historical Roman orator by that name I had to google it. I'm afraid references to the works of the Bard fly over my head most of the time. Can't help it. A consequence of not getting your basic education in English, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 07 May 2011, 03:39
See?  We're educational! 

And clearly I'm  getting one - never heard of this lemmings game before...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 07 May 2011, 09:44
Sibelius, for the win.

Oddities corner: I have a CD of Sibelius's music for organ.  Possibly the most interesting thing on it is a piece that he admitted uses material taken from his eighth symphony, which he destroyed.  Buying the CD meant finding the web site of an obscure Finnish recording company and then navigating the site and shop entirely in Finnish...

LOL. Sounds like the experience didn't ruin your credit rating, though.

An oddity, indeed. Sibelius hasn't composed much for organ. Symphonic poems and piano for me. One of my favorite Sibelius CDs has Barbirolli conducting Hallé orchestra.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 07 May 2011, 11:36
Funnily enough I was listening to some songs on random just as I read that comic and what came on? Johnny Cash's version of Hurt.
I still find it amazing that Cash's last big hit was a Nine Inch Nails cover. That worked VERY well with The Man in Black's style.

God, that man had a great voice.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 May 2011, 11:39
I know. Cash's version of "Hurt" made me tear up the first time I heard it. Such subtle power in that voice, even in old age.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 May 2011, 11:42
Whats even more amazing is that when he heard Johnny Cash's version, Trent Reznor said that "Hurt" was no longer his song, it was Johnny Cash's.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: SirDudley on 07 May 2011, 11:46
I know. Cash's version of "Hurt" made me tear up the first time I heard it. Such subtle power in that voice, even in old age.
Not to mention just before death as well. I think the music video for "Hurt" aired about...what, three or so weeks before he died?
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Akima on 07 May 2011, 15:24
An oddity, indeed. Sibelius hasn't composed much for organ. Symphonic poems and piano for me. One of my favorite Sibelius CDs has Barbirolli conducting Hallé orchestra.
4th Symphony and violin concerto for me. Sibelius is my favourite western composer. After J.S.Bach, of course, everyone is after Bach.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 07 May 2011, 15:46
I have recordings of all  Bach's works; but long before I managed that I already had recordings of all the music of Bartók (well, I'm missing a couple of small pieces and juvenilia - but I have paper copies of those).
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 May 2011, 11:21
I know. Cash's version of "Hurt" made me tear up the first time I heard it. Such subtle power in that voice, even in old age.
Not to mention just before death as well. I think the music video for "Hurt" aired about...what, three or so weeks before he died?


I'd heard Hurt, but never know it was a Nine Inch Nails cover.  It is   truly beatiful and moving, but the one that always gets me is "Aint no Grave (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66QcIlblI1U&feature=related)", which I recognized as an old pentacostal hymn (I really  ran with the wrong crowd in college...). 

Unfortunately, some yahoo bad-guy wrestler took it on as his theme song, and the uplifting emotions I feel whenever I hear it got trampled when I visited a friend who had wrestling on the tube.  I still love it, and it's not like it was ruined forever, but what has been seen & heard...
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: Skewbrow on 16 May 2011, 12:53
Sibelius, for the win.

Oddities corner: I have a CD of Sibelius's music for organ.  Possibly the most interesting thing on it is a piece that he admitted uses material taken from his eighth symphony, which he destroyed.  Buying the CD meant finding the web site of an obscure Finnish recording company and then navigating the site and shop entirely in Finnish...

Adding to the oddity: Today I met a couple senior colleagues, who are much more knowledgable about this than I will ever be. They told me that a lot of Sibelius' organ music is actually ritual music he composed for the free mason lodge that he joined later in his life. At more or less the same time, when he was working on the abandoned 8th symphony.
Title: Re: WCDT 2-6 May 2011 (1916-1920)
Post by: pwhodges on 16 May 2011, 13:33
Quite so - I just didn't mention that.  But then, some major Mozart is masonic too, like, er: "Masonic Funeral Music, K477".  Not to mention The Magic Flute.