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Fun Stuff => CHATTER => Topic started by: Slick on 09 May 2011, 22:38
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So hey I was just thinking about this tonight, but I have known a bunch of Tania/yas in my time. There was a time when the ladies I was involved with or interested in where named Sonia then Tanya then Dunja which all kind of sound a little the same (especially because I speak swiftly and drop some consonants sometimes) and my roommate and good friend complained about this being confusing for him (but, like, this is the guy who dated three Michelles and was good friends with another Michelle so whatever). But that is not the point I want to get to tonight!
What I was wondering was, how do Tanyas react to Tanias and vice versa? My friend Tanya hates when people misspell her name as 'Tania' because most of the Tanias she's known are kind of ditzy, while over on the complementary side, my good friend Andrew's girlfriend Tania (who is a friend of mine, now that I think of it!) does not like to be confused for a Tanya because she has had bad experiences with Tanyas! Clearly there are good Tanyas and Tanias, but I was wondering what our favorite Tania thought about Tanyas (or Dunjas or Sonias I guess for that matter) and whether or not anyone had any prejudices towards yas or ias either way?
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I understand the first rule of Tanyas is they don't talk about Tanias.
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Is Tania even the same as Tanya? I can't see how you can pronounce them the same way; I want to say it 'Ta-knee-a" for Tania and 'Tan-ya' for Tanya, with both names pronouncing the 'a' as it's long-almost-an-O sound (like in 'gone').
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Clearly there are good Tanyas and Tanias
Hey now, I don't see anyone starting a band called the Be Good Tanias.
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Note that in Australia, no matter how Tania is spelt, it is ALWAYS pronounced 'TAN-yar' and not 'TARN-ee-yar.' Same for Megan, it will be pronounced 'MEE-gan' even if you specify that um, excuse me, it's actually 'MAY-gan.'
Anyway - this is the same as my prejudice between Alison, Allison and Alyson. Obviously Alison is the best and most pure form of the name, even if I do go by Ally (which again is confusing because it should be spelt Ali but when I do that it invariably gets pronounced as Ah-LEE, the boy's name). Then I guess this pronunciation could be confused between Ally (as in friend) and Alley (as in laneway).
It's just a lot easier to go by Lunchy, really.
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I'm fairly certain that tania and tanya are the same name. One is spelled with a glide, is all. In normal speech, there shouldn't be a pronunciation difference between them - unless I'm wrong?
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even if I do go by Ally (which again is confusing because it should be spelt Ali but when I do that I invariably become a boxing legend).
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What is a "may gun"?
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My future career in circus awaits me.
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I have the same problems with people spelling my name as Lindsay. Obviously spelling it with an E is the best and only way.
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Note that in Australia, no matter how Tania is spelt, it is ALWAYS pronounced 'TAN-yar' and not 'TARN-ee-yar.' Same for Megan, it will be pronounced 'MEE-gan' even if you specify that um, excuse me, it's actually 'MAY-gan.'
Hunh. So far as I ever hear it, the name Megan/Meghan/Meaghan/Meagan is pronounced MEG-in (except that one girl who actually spelled it Meegan). I have not met a MEG-in who got upset about her name being misspelled, maybe because they're all from the same root and there are several accepted spellings?
I have encountered that misspelling hostility with Sara/Sarah and Brittany/Britney. The Brittanys can be explained by Britney Spears, of course, but I don't know about Sara(h).
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I've known Sarahs whose name was pronounced without the h, and Saras whose name was pronounced with it. Basically people are going to pronounce their name how they feel, no matter what the spelling is.
I'd have thought that my name would be one of the easiest names ever, considering that it's not just a name but also a month, and a verb, but I still get Mae, Mai, Amy etc...
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Tommy, I find it quite funny when you do this third-person split-personality thing when talking about your girlfriend Tania, as if she were not the "our favourite Tania" referred to in the OP.
HOWEVER. I chose to pronounce Tania as Tann-ya so I guess it is better if we pretend that we're not talking about the same person.
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My friends pyscho girlfriend is named Tanya, and she pronounces it like the word tan, as if you were going tanning. She is an awful person, so clearly the other way is the best way to pronounce it.
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Fuck it, from now on I'm just going to pronounce the name Tania/Tanya to rhyme with the name Shania.
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How do you pronounce Shania? I mean, I pronounce it Shan-yar but I bet some people say Shar-niar and some people say Shan-iya. Names are serious business (let's not even get started on my brother, who is called Xander).
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people with accents that are not mine who are writing things that end with R is confusing all the hecks out of me
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Actually May you raise a good point, maybe her name really was meant to be Shan-ya Twain.
Okay fine this is all too confusing, I'm Australian so from now on you're all Tazza.
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Seconding the R thing. Where in the world do you pull an "r" sound out of S-h-a-n-i-a?
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I can't even figure out how to say it in two syllables. Shuh-nie-yah.
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Yeah but not everybody knows who I am/who she is. It's a big assumption that everybody who comes to this forum knows all about our little soap operas.
Yeah, this has been such an established fact that you were a couple here that it's never mentioned ever. You mentioned it in a sentence just casually in the photo thread or something a while ago and I had no idea about it before that.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is thanks for making the stuff you write understandable for the forumers who doesn't attend the meetups/doesn't hang out in meebo.
EDIT: the first place I heard the name Tania/Tanya pronounced were in the red alert games, so it always sounds Russian to my inner ear.
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The Rs are because that is the peculiar way they pronounce things where they are from. That pronunciation leads in to one of my favorite jokes, wherein you ask someone 'what do you call a dear that can't see?' and they confusedly reply 'No idea' (no idear).
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i work for a tanya and we get on pretty well, although it can get really confusing when the shop gets busy and people just start shouting names all over the place at random. they're pronounced slightly differently but it's a little harder to hear from a distance or in a busy shop. we're still trying to work out a better system for this.
personally i don't really care how you pronounce my name but don't think that if you even dare spell it with a "y" instead of an "i" i won't find you and come over and cut you on the face because that is definitely fucking possible
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Yeah, this has been such an established fact that you were a couple here that it's never mentioned ever. You mentioned it in a sentence just casually in the photo thread or something a while ago and I had no idea about it before that.
to be fair we did keep it on the down low for a while because we decided we didn't want to risk complications from drama/gossip (not to accuse anyone here, it's just always a reasonable risk when you have all the same friends and they're also all on the same internet) and neither of us were really sure how serious it was actually going to end up being for quite a while, what with the fact that it's been a long distance relationship and basically a fucking marathon for pretty much the entire time. now that it's been like a hundred years and one of us is actually moving to another country it seems pretty silly to do anything else other than just be open about it so there you go.
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I've known Sarahs whose name was pronounced without the h, and Saras whose name was pronounced with it. Basically people are going to pronounce their name how they feel, no matter what the spelling is.
I'd have thought that my name would be one of the easiest names ever, considering that it's not just a name but also a month, and a verb, but I still get Mae, Mai, Amy etc...
people pronounce the 'h' in Sarah? mind blown
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I think she means the two different pronunciations of Sara (Sah-ra) and Sarah (Sair-a) indicated by the h, not that the h is actually sounded.
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Yeah sorry tania I'm probably gonna always pronounce yr name TAN-ya because saying it with a long "ah" is weird and sounds kind of pretentious to me
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Only solution; an all-out war between every Tanya and Tania on Earth
Commence the bloodshed
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Titania is pronounced "tih-TAH-nyuh", therefore Tania is "TAH-nyuh", both with rounded A sounds. So, like Russian, I guess.
I know a girl named Lara and her boyfriend can't hear the difference between LAH-ruh and LAW-ruh (Laura) and it drives her crazy. He also probably cannot tell the difference between Sara and Sarah.
I always feel like Katy and Catie and Caty and Kadie and Kady and Cady are weird, and like the last two are misspellings of Caddy, but they are different people and not me and so their name is different and it's got nothing to do with me so whatever. I dunno where the Ds came from, but it's a diminuitive of Kate, which is short for Katherine/Catherine/Kathryn/whatever, so the only people who are actually wrong are the people who think it can be short for Catelin/Katelyn/Caitlin.
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My daughter Catherine uses Kit for short.
And I don't pronounce Titania the same as you either, nor the same as Tania. Sorry 'n all.
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people with accents that are not mine who are writing things that end with R is confusing all the hecks out of me
I'm from Massachusetts and those Aussies confuse me with their Rs where they shouldn't be.
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I never understood why people get so pissed about someone spelling their name wrong. People spell and pronounce my name wrong constantly.
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I worked with a place with three Tatianas one time! One of them went by Tania because there were two Tatianas and then our boss hired a third Tatiana for the team which was basically hilarious because since she was hired to replace the guy who changed to a development team, the QA department was three Tatianas and three co-ops.
They were all Rusian, and the one that went by Tanya gave me a ride home from work one day when we had to go late. I didn't talk with her much regularly because her English was not the best but she was really impressed that I was a photographer, musician, baker, and mathematician. She thought it was really impressive that I could play piano and take nice pictures with my nice old camera, I thought it was pretty normal to be able to do these things. In retrospect, it was kind of ridiculous of me to take for granted that anyone who wants to play piano has a piano and anyone who wants to take photos buys a camera. I mean, she worked hard to get a computer degree in Russia and then moved with her husband to a new country to try and get ahead in life, and here I was, taking my $19/hour job for granted and planning my escape from working on computers to go follow my dreams or something where I've just been offered $11/hour four years later.
In other news, I talk a lot these days. I don't have many good conversations but I'm constantly relating my stories on life and what I feel I've learned. Thinking is hard and it is so much easier much easier to hear a cue for one of my stories and just go into a five minute monologue regardless of what was happening!
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My name is Ed. I feel so boring.
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That's a terrible name!
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So wait which part of that is your family name and which parts are the middle name?
I think I feel so is a pretty sweet middle name, gives you lots of options to switch things around and make good jokes, but if your family name is so boring that's not quite so useful.
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So wait which part of that is your family name and which parts are the middle name?
I think I feel so is a pretty sweet middle name, gives you lots of options to switch things around and make good jokes, but if your family name is so boring that's not quite so useful.
It's more the full stop in the middle that gets me - primary school was the worst.
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Either way, Tania's a bitch.
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I have the same problems with people spelling my name as Lindsay. Obviously spelling it with an E is the best and only way.
At least you've got a prayer. My wife's is spelled Lyndsay.
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Oh lord I think we need to agree on some form of phonetic alphabet up in here. People are trying to spell things how they sound and it is hurting my head :psyduck:
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people with accents that are not mine who are writing things that end with R is confusing all the hecks out of me
In Australia, most people have what are known as "non-rhotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_and_non-rhotic_accents)" accents (yes, my parents sent me to elocution lessons). The letter R at the end of words is usually silent, so centre = "senta", brighter = "bryta", and the words "panda" and "pander" have the same pronunciation. I would pronounce Tania as "Tan-ya" with "Tan" rhyming with fan, unless the person in question expressed another preference. Disclaimer: I am not a native English-speaker.
Oh lord I think we need to agree on some form of phonetic alphabet up in here. People are trying to spell things how they sound and it is hurting my head :psyduck:
There is the IPA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPA) but that would probably make our heads hurt worse.
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That is how I pronounce those words too, and I am a native english speaker. We also have broad vowel sounds and some softer consonants in our accents. Brighter would have almost a d sound rather than the harder t. Potato sounds more like Potaydoe. I guess I would pronounce Katie more like Kaydee, but wouldn't spell it that way.
Also, I love the IPA and want to use it all the time. I miss studying linguistics
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i'd love to introduce myself to some of you in person and count how many times you say "what?" after i say my name
i always thought i spoke pretty well, but i think i've been getting lazy as i've gotten older, so whenever i tell someone my name is Danny they inevitably say "what?" at least once, usually a couple times
"danny" seems so easy to say too, i don't know what the deal is. i guess i'm just a fast-talking, backwoods mushmouth. :-D
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i'd love to introduce myself to some of you in person and count how many times you say "what?" after i say my name
i always thought i spoke pretty well, but i think i've been getting lazy as i've gotten older, so whenever i tell someone my name is Danny they inevitably say "what?" at least once, usually a couple times
"danny" seems so easy to say too, i don't know what the deal is. i guess i'm just a fast-talking, backwoods mushmouth. :-D
My dad (who claims to have done some research into it, while trying to prove that it's not his ears that are the problem, it's everyone else's poor enunciation) that names are the least understandable part of a person's greeting, because they are so familiar to us. So if you say, "Hi, I'm Danny," it might very well seem clear to you, since you know what you're saying, but it comes out to everyone else as "Hiyumdanee".
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My daughter Catherine uses Kit for short.
And I don't pronounce Titania the same as you either, nor the same as Tania.
Kit is perfectly acceptable, and also cute! How else does one pronounce Titania? tie-TANE-ee-uh? tih-tuh-NY-uh? I once knew a Tania, a Tiana, and a Tatiana and all those A sounds were approximately the same, and I have only ever heard anyone pronounce Titania similarly.
Titania is either a name for a very fat/tall/large bosomed girl or multiple pieces of titanium.
Um? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania)
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How else does one pronounce Titania?
Tit-TAN-yuh like tania is TAN-yuh
Instead of Tit-TAHN-yuh and TAHN-yuh
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Oh my. Y'all dun gone loss dem final D's.
Well we don't have a big drawl like the stereotypical southern american accent, but I don't know how to explain it. I guess you know how Lindsay Lohan's character in Mean Girls was called Cady? That is how I pronounce Katie.
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they're also all on the same internet
You guys should move to China.
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I'd really, really like to hear that.
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Presumably Tommy means he mentally puts on what an English person thinks is an Australian accent.
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I mean, I guess I pronounce my name like "cady" too
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How else does one pronounce Titania?
I am not going to bother trying to accent all the different parts of the word and use phonetic spelling.
It's just titanium without the u.
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You know, it never really occurred to me that titania and Titania are the same word.
Huh.
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tania is "tahn-ia" and rhymes with "lasagna". just do it that way and trust that me and my russian family know how to properly pronounce my name
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whatever, russians don't even speak english, how would they know
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believe it or not "tania" actually sounds exactly the same in russian as it does in english because it's, wait for it... a russian name! crazy i know
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Pfft, whatever Boris.
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maybe to you, communist
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well, boris is my middle name
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personally i don't really care how you pronounce my name but don't think that if you even dare spell it with a "y" instead of an "i" i won't find you and come over and cut you on the face because that is definitely fucking possible
I reckon that this might be a small price to pay for the chance to meet a member of beloved forum royalty.
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We all know there is the only way how we deal with these situations.
(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/444554/bm2002-0968-08292340-thunderdome-.jpg)
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well, boris is my middle name
tania boris communistsky
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I reckon that this might be a small price to pay for the chance to meet a member of beloved forum royalty.
you hear that tommy? royalty
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remind me which one of the two of us is better again
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Oh, you don't have a big drawl?
I just remembered - back when I moved to Tennessee and I still went by just 'Ed', people had no idea how to pronounce it. It was hilarious, and I dealt with it more than you'd think likely.
"What's your name?"
"Ed."
"Adam?"
"What? No, Ed."
"Adam."
"No...Ayuhd."
"Oh Ed! Why didn't you say so?"
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I've known a few Tanya/Tanias who pronounced their own name "Tan-ya", can't remember any who went by "Tahn-ya". Not saying either way is "proper." If it's your name then it's your prerogative. Similar to people who would swear to me that my name was actually Benjamin, because it comes from and Abrahamic root and my parents didn't know anything and they named me incorrectly. Fuck off. My name is Ben. It's on my birth certificate and it's what I use to identify myself.
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My son's name is Nicolas, not Nicholas. He's used to people getting it wrong.
The reason is that the original Greek form of the name (Νικόλαος) has κ (kappa - which is transliterated as c or k), not χ (chi - which the traditional transliteration as ch implies).
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Similar to people who would swear to me that my name was actually Benjamin, because it comes from and Abrahamic root and my parents didn't know anything and they named me incorrectly. Fuck off. My name is Ben. It's on my birth certificate and it's what I use to identify myself.
i used to know some people who would repeatedly insist that my name is short for anastasia which is understandable (i've known some girls named anastasia who go by ana/anna) but wrong. my birth certificate says anna.
this isn't really a thing i have to deal with nowadays though so yay!
i pronounce tania the russian way because i am russian.
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No, their names sound and are spelt the same as the shortened form of Benjamin/Anastasia. My name sounds and is spelt the same as the name of a type of bush, a month and a verb, but it doesn't mean that I am those things.
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My legit birth certificate name is Tavis but everyone and their dog spells it wrong/says it wrong so I just go by JD.
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your name is still a shortened form of benjamin
Why not Benvolio or Benedict, though? Or Bennet, or Bentley, Benson, Benton, or even Benoni (the name given to the biblical Benjamin by his mother, before his father changed it). Who are you, or anyone, to say that it's any of these rather than none?
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My actual legit birth first name really is just Harry. Sometimes people I've just met try to call me Harold or (less commonly) Henry but mostly they don't, probably because they realise that Harold and Henry are really dorky names.
Introducing yourself as Harry can be kind of awkward in formal situations, though. Fortunately I live in Australia and we're very rarely formal!
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well, in a formal situation, wouldn't Mr. (insert last name here) be a touch more appropriate? or does nobody actually do that.
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Oh of my workmates named her children Harrison and William, but they are just Harry and Billy always. Seems a bit silly to do it that way, but they are her children so whatever.
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Oh by the way I'm named after this guy:
http://www.npgprints.com/image/449148/walter-stoneman-sir-harry-owen-chalkley (http://www.npgprints.com/image/449148/walter-stoneman-sir-harry-owen-chalkley)
He was my maternal great-grandfather.
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well, in a formal situation, wouldn't Mr. (insert last name here) be a touch more appropriate? or does nobody actually do that.
In my public speaking class the professor insisted we all address each other as Mr. and Ms. so-and-so. Which was cool and all. But now it's awkward when I see people around campus and can't think of their first name. People look at you funny when you yell out "Hey Ms. Lindamood!" to someone your own age."
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My name is Jonathan. Both my mom and I absolutely hate when people call me Jon. My name is not Jon, my name is Jonathan, if she wanted me to be called Jon, she would have named me Jon. But instead of Jonathan, I go by Jace, because my first two initials are JC, and Jace is the name of Space Ghost's sidekick, so my sister started calling me that when I was like 6 years old.
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I thought the thread title was Tommy vs. Tania
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Tania'll win, she has the biggest penis.
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But how does she pronounce it?
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With her mouth, presumably.
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But how does she pronounce it?
Pee-nis
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not pee-NIS?
peh-nis?
peh-nice?
pay-nis?
pen-nis?
pen-is?
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Pee-NUHS
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Tania'll win, she has the biggest penis.
hey
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Out of that battle, stallion-junk.
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Tania'll win, she has the biggest penis.
come on though, we all know that against tommy this is barely a contest at all
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I heard he's been getting really pumped up for this contest though.
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What's the proper way to pluralize penis? I've been debating with a friend. Is it penises, penii, or penes?
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The Latin plural is penes; the English plural is penises. Penii is never right in any language.
The matter of which plural to use for "foreign" words is unclear. Nineteenth-century grammarians often made a point of trying to (re-)introduce features of Latin, in particular, in English - some of which have stuck. I follow the line that English is English and should follow its own rules unless another usage is overwhelming. Is it in this case? I live in Oxford, where Latin is not exactly unknown, but I have never in my life heard anyone say penes, even in a medical context. OTOH, the Oxford dictionaries still record it as an acceptable usage.
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The Latin plural is penes; the English plural is penises. Penii is never right in any language.
Not in my shiny new language, Paul.
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Who even says penis?!
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Doctors.
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I prefer the word 'doodle.'
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Or occasionally, 'willy.'
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I once knew a Peter Wang.
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Doctors.
Pfft, they're not real.
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From now on I'd kindly ask you all to refer to the organ in question as a "piddle pencil".
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That is especially true if it has snowed.
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I once knew a Peter Wang.
At the last call centre I worked at there was a customer named Richard Wang.
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OTOH, how many of us have more than one anyway?
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The first Commander in Chief did (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbRom1Rz8OA)
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OTOH, how many of us have more than one anyway?
I tried to start a collection, but apparently you're not supposed to solicit for that sort of thing.
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OTOH, how many of us have more than one anyway?
Apparently snakes have 2 penors. I'd try to find a source or reference to back that up but I don't want to be caught googling snake dicks at work.
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For some reason it never really occurred to me that they would have one, much less two. Snakes just seem like they would reproduce externally, fish style.
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What are you talking about? Snakes are just one giant, slithering penis.
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But which end do you put in? Ergo, they are two
penises penii piddle pencils.
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Maybe one of them's a piddle pencil and the other's a spunk spout?
A jizz jet?
etc.
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Its pretty hard to mispronounce Philip, but I am constantly having to inform people that it is Philip not Phillip, which I can understand - easy mistake to make (although my parents spent most of my childhood assuring me that mine was the "correct" spelling for the first name and Phillip is the spelling of the surname) I do however get mildly annoyed by people writing Phill, as even Phillip shortens just to Phil.
The real confusion doesn't start till I have to tell people that despite the single L in my first name, my surname contains two Ls and two Ts - apparently this fact is very hard to grasp for some people.
Another thing about my name is that, with the exception of one Mr Seymour Hoffman there are very few famous Phils, apparently this is because we are all backstage to the point that I had a friend who could go into a theater and just ask "So wheres Phil" and somewhere, some guy would stick his head up from doing something technical and wave.
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Well, I think its more of an American term, but when someone says Johnson, do you think "wang"?
Sad truth of today is that if you're called Richard, or know a Richard, or see Richard, people say "we should say Dick, lolololol". I mean if Friends can go like 10 years without the joke, and even over 3 Austin Powers movies its not mentioned, how is it possible people find it funny? Its weird.
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When I hear Johnson, I think "wang". When I hear a lot of things I think "wang". I think about "wang" a lot.
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The Johnson= wang thing makes me angry. Mostly because growing up with the name Amanda Johnson I got to hear way more dick jokes and "amanda hugnkiss" cracks in elementary school than anyone should ever have to encounter.
Edit: Now I just get to constantly say "Hren. H-R-E-N. Like the bird. But with an H instead of a W. Fuck it, I'll just write it down for you, ok?"
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Man I never got any. I feel like I'm missing out now.
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I know a Tanya who goes by Tone-YAH
It's only recently that I learned that's not how other people with the name Tanya go by.
I also recently learned Aaron is not pronounced like Auron from FFX.
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So here's a thing that confuses me. How do Americans pronounce the name Deirdre? From watching your TV shows it seems like you pronounce it "Deer-dra", but myself and every other Australian I've ever met has always pronounced it "Deer-dree" (I've known at least three Deirdres during my lifetime and they've all pronounced it that way).
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My daughter's name is pronounced "Dare-dra".
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For the most part, I pronounce it "Excuse me, how do you pronounce that?"
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Well, yeah, but don't forget I'm semi-archaic myself, at this point.
Pronunciation. (http://inogolo.com/pronunciation/Deirdre) Third pronunciation for how we pronounce my daughter' name.
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Whenever I think of that name, the scene from Monty's Python's The Meaning of Life pops into my head - the one where a baby drops right out of Terry Jones while he is doing the dishes and says in his squeaky lady voice 'Get that for me, will you Deirdre.'
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Its pretty hard to mispronounce Philip, but I am constantly having to inform people that it is Philip not Phillip, which I can understand - easy mistake to make
because this immediately comes after the previous conversation, I assumed you named your penis "Philip" and correct people when they spell your penis wrong.
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One of my cousins' middle names is Dierdre. Dier-dree, definitely. I've never heard it pronounced another way here.
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Most Americans I've known named Deirdre have pronounced it deer-druh, but I have known several who pronounce it dee-druh. I have never heard deer-dree, but I haven't been out of the country either!
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i dated a Deirdre once
she was a "deer-druh"
that's only instance of that name i've ever encountered
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At the last call centre I worked at there was a customer named Richard Wang.
I generally don't really interpret Richard as a potential penis joke because both my father and Grandfather are Richards, and my grandfather actually went by Dick, so it's kinda just a name to me, but when I worked in a call center I talked to a caller named Richard Toy. Dick Toy. I'm sure he heard his fair share of jokes.
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Dick Hardman doesn't do anything for you?
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Not if he doesn't know how to use it.