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Title: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jun 2011, 06:59
So will the next week be consumed by this coffee dilemma?  Or will we see the party (or even a partay)?  Stay tuned!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Jun 2011, 10:08
What's more surprising: the cast (with Penelope) watching Goonies at 3 AM, or that Marigold had never SEEN Goonies?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Jun 2011, 12:13
Never saw Goonies! either.  It was a little after my time, I think.  I seem to recall it was aimed at a particular age group.  Maybe Goonies discussion should be moved to the Entertainment thread section? 

I'm more surprised that Penelope had never gotten drunk before...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 05 Jun 2011, 14:56
That doesn't mean she's never gotten drunk in her whole life; we only know that she doesn't drink now.

I'm a bit curious as to why  she doesn't normally drink. Actually I'm interested to know a lot more about Penelope's background; all we really know is that she has Bible-thumping parents and has had relationship troubles in the past.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 05 Jun 2011, 15:19
Theres a lot of reasons for someone not to drink, ranging from seeing what it did to someone to them, to just having no interest in it. Like, personally, I don't drink just because I grew up around it, my dad worked for a major distillery here for most of my life. That meant that I got to take a lot of tours of the distillery and the bottling plants, like really behind the scenes, through the labs, the actual stills and boilers, not the museum stuff at the front, so I got to see a lot of how its made (and on several occasions I showed the new guys around  :roll: ). So yeah, not a lot of mystery there for me anymore, not to mention that some of the processes, or at least the smells they produce, can really put you off.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 05 Jun 2011, 15:38
...Bible-thumping parents...


Well there's yer problem!


She probably had it drilled into her from an early age that alcohol is from the devil and it will make you go to hell. I'm not sure when she turned away from that path, but she may have spent most of her formative years in bible study and never developed a taste for it.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Jun 2011, 15:43
Might also be a health thing, part of the same pattern as her gym membership.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 05 Jun 2011, 15:54
She probably had it drilled into her from an early age that alcohol is from the devil and it will make you go to hell. I'm not sure when she turned away from that path, but she may have spent most of her formative years in bible study and never developed a taste for it.

Kinda funny story. There's an organisation here called the Pioneer Total Abstinence Association, a teetotaler group, who could be described as slightly less uppity than prohibition groups. Anyway, they go around to schools and go to the classes, usually the 15 year olds and during the religion classes, and they ask the students to take a form and to read it, asking the students to abstain from alcohol until they're 18.

Well, they came to our class, told us about the Pledge, give us the forms and left. As soon as the door closed, the teacher turned towards us and just said "None of you are going to take that pledge, are you?"

All twenty nine of us just looked at him like he asked the most obvious question ever, and nearly deafened him with the "NO!"
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 05 Jun 2011, 15:55
Besides, I don't seem to remember either the Old or the New Testament come out and say, "Don't Drink", There are a lot of stories that many of us would start off with "I was soooo wasted last night that I...." in that book.

Penny's fun when she's loaded - hope she got home safe to Bartender Wil next day.

And it's only WWII to you late to the party Americans.  The rest of the West has been in it since last Thursday, and the Chinese have been there since the Thursday before that.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Jun 2011, 16:03
With red wine, the hangover may put her right back off the stuff.  That, and she seemed to be more frustrated at her lack of control (and spelling) than any fun she may have been having. 

Of course, none of this may ever make it into the comic, either, becoming a noodle incident (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoodleIncident) for us here on the boards. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 05 Jun 2011, 16:05
becoming a noodle incident (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoodleIncident) for us here on the boards. 

And this week's award for earliest link to TvTropes goes to.......Drumroll please.....Carl-E.

Congratulations sir for wasting half an hour of someone's time.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Jun 2011, 16:27
Pennelope's parents were probably from one of the anti-alcohol churches. You can find prohibitions and warnings in the Bible, but if you look at them with the ability to make distinctions, they are mostly aimed at drinking to excess.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 05 Jun 2011, 17:28
There will be blood.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: YourMaster on 05 Jun 2011, 19:25
Eh, I don't drink.  My parents drink, nobody in my family is super bible-y (most float between agnostic apathy and very generic liberal Christian apathy), and I'm an atheist.

Some people just don't.  For me it just never really held any appeal, in the same way that I never really got into watching sports when lots of other people do.

She could be similar; she could avoid it for health reasons; it could just be a chosen character quirk (haven't we all met somebody like this http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-doesnt-own-a-tel,429/ ); she could be allergic; she could just find the taste of most drinks foul; and yes, it could be leftover religious stuff; she might know someone in her past that was badly alcoholic and overcompensated; she could just really hate being intoxicated and so avoid even a little.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: bicostp on 05 Jun 2011, 20:35
A drink or two once in a while is fine, but I don't see the appeal of drinking until you're sick, or getting so loaded you have no memory of the party.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Emperor Norton on 05 Jun 2011, 20:59
I think, what people were saying, was that a person who doesn't drink but has before, is much more common than someone who has NEVER drank. Seriously, I can't name a single person I know, even out of the people I know who don't drink, who have never drank (and are adults, I mean, I know 15 year olds who have never drank but that's different.)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jun 2011, 21:01
And it's only WWII to you late to the party Americans.  The rest of the West has been in it since last Thursday, and the Chinese have been there since the Thursday before that.
I'm well aware of that, my friend.  But since this week was entirely within WWII, I thought I'd mention it.  Also:
A drink or two once in a while is fine, but I don't see the appeal of drinking until you're sick, or getting so loaded you have no memory of the party.
I've had about 15 drinks tonight, and I'll have full memory of tonight's party (which I hosted, and only had about 10 of my friends over), so no worries about driving home.  My point is there's a middle ground between one drink and black out drunk.  Sure, I still have a slight buzz on, but I never got crazy.

Modifier: Also, to Norton, I drank a couple times in high school/early college but I didn't really start drinking until I could buy my own, when I turned 21.  And I really didn't start enjoying it (also the taste of different beers) until I was 22 or so (I'm almost 24 now, btw).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Jun 2011, 21:05
Y'know, I intentionally didn't put up a MOTW poll because I KNEW that Raven would run away with it.

And the reason why some people don't drink is the same as why there are some people who don't eat ice cream or don't eat asparagus. They don't care for it.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jun 2011, 21:10
But ice cream and asparagus are delicious! (So long as they are kept separate).  Either way, I meant not to criticize those who abstain from alcohol.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 06 Jun 2011, 00:08
Marten senses a great disturbance in The Force...


Either that or he loves the smell of fresh rosted coffee in the morning, smells like...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Sorflakne on 06 Jun 2011, 00:21
True on smell and memory...a single whiff of a particular smell can bring back a memory that you haven't thought of in years, if not decades.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Jun 2011, 00:33
...and Padma misses the point again.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: 0kamisama on 06 Jun 2011, 00:52
Annnnnd MArten goes back to being the winey, mopey single guy we all remember from the first couple hundred pages.

Character regression!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: St.Clair on 06 Jun 2011, 00:56
I tend not to drink alcohol because (1) I'm perfectly capable of making bad decisions while entirely sober and (2) I don't much care for the taste of most of it.  Beer is uck, wine is sour (just give me the fresh grape juice, please)... I admit I've sampled a few nice whiskeys, but overall, I have the palate of a British teenager.  (That said, I could probably get in a lot of trouble with alcopops, had they been more common during my youth; these days, I have few RL social occasions to drink.)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Jun 2011, 01:03
winey, mopey

Sadness and nostalgia are not the same as whiney and mopey, though; those are more to do with an unjustified feeling of being dumped on.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 06 Jun 2011, 01:11
I dont drink alcohol either, never have.

Yeah we're in the midst of WW2 now ... it sneaked up on us ... *ducks*
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cabbagehut on 06 Jun 2011, 01:52
Aw, this one makes me a little sad.  I get nostalgic about some things, too, because when you're with someone for a while, they just become a part of your life, and you can't erase all of that right away.  I don't think that makes him whiny or mopey, just a regular person.  Or maybe I'm really whiny and mopey.  This is also a possibility.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Jun 2011, 02:03
I don't drink the same reason I don't do drugs.....it's too damn expensive. I have better things to waste my money on. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-TA57L0kuc)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Delator on 06 Jun 2011, 02:15
...and Padma misses the point again.

Indeed.

Her obtuseness will be cured the same day that Cosette's curse is lifted...meaning never.
 
:psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 Jun 2011, 02:31
Either that or he loves the smell of fresh rosted coffee in the morning, smells like...
Dora's secret ingredient?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 06 Jun 2011, 02:39
Dora's secret ingredient?

Is that a euphemism?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Deadlywonky on 06 Jun 2011, 03:01
Does Marten's nostalgia mean Dora smells like coffee, or that he misses CoD? it could be a significant distinction.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Jun 2011, 03:07
Dora's secret ingredient?

Is that a euphemism?

I'd love to reply with an answer, but I can't find that one strip where Dora mentions Watersports. So, i'm gonna say "THE TEARS OF BABIES."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 06 Jun 2011, 03:13
And it's only WWII to you late to the party Americans.  The rest of the West has been in it since last Thursday, and the Chinese have been there since the Thursday before that.
Perhaps, with regard to China, you mean the Tuesday before (1937-1945 was the Second Sino-Japanese War or 抗日战争 (http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=worddict&wdrst=0&wdqb=抗日战争)), or the Monday of the previous week (1931 was the year Japan invaded Manchuria and sporadic fighting continued until the commencement of full-scale war in 1937).

Is Padma that oblivious, or is she just dead-panning Marten?

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 06 Jun 2011, 03:28
Dora's secret ingredient?

Is that a euphemism?

How does she grind the coffee? By using her personal mortar and pestle.  :evil:

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Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 06 Jun 2011, 03:43
I suppose that was my fault. [hangs head in shame]
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 Jun 2011, 03:46
So rule 34 (or something like it) applies to roasting coffee, too?

Edit: I apologize for my part in taking this too far.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Deadlywonky on 06 Jun 2011, 04:10
My bad, this was supposed to be a Double Entendre but on reading it back it appears to be as subtle as a brick to the face.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Jun 2011, 04:38
Um, let's not discuss that further or I'll find myself deleting posts, which I'd rather not.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 06 Jun 2011, 04:51
Awwwwww.

You spoil all our fun. :cry:

Help, can anyone explain to this Grumpy-Old-Man, Marten's shirt this week?

I recognize the old Nabisco's Oreo logo. But it has a different word in it.

What's up with that?

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 06 Jun 2011, 05:00
A quick google search says that it was some emo band from the early 90s (more fuel for the "Marten is an emo crybaby" fire, I guess).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 06 Jun 2011, 05:02
Thanks.

And once again Padma proves her differently clued status!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 Jun 2011, 05:58
Marten senses a great disturbance in The Force...


Either that or he loves the smell of fresh rosted coffee in the morning, smells like...

Victory?

Damn, I would have a really hard time if I had to pass tSB each morning, as my two favourite smells are fresh brewed coffee and freshly baked bread.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Black Sword on 06 Jun 2011, 06:30
Oh, Padma! Your cluelessness is endearing! Poor Marten. Smell-associated memory recall is very inconvenient...

Do you suppose this week will be low-intensity, or are we going to get some major WII-level drama in? Or will nothing happen until next week, when J. Jacques may drop the Iron Curtain (QC-style) on us?

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 06 Jun 2011, 06:34
I do beleive it was a cement block to the head and a shovel through the heart.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 06 Jun 2011, 06:53
[...]

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Jeph has NEVER been consistent about THAT.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: crazdgamer on 06 Jun 2011, 07:25
We're probably not going to see a party for a while. It's Monday in QC time and the party isn't until Friday.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 06 Jun 2011, 07:54
[...]

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Jeph has NEVER been consistent about THAT.


At least he isn't like certain manga artists, where the bosoms are proportionate to the character's confidence level at a given point (thinking of the Hellsing manga, specifically, though there are others).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 06 Jun 2011, 07:56
[...]

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Jeph has NEVER been consistent about THAT.


Oh yes, he is very consistent with this. That is, they consistently grow on all his characters....  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 Jun 2011, 08:25
Except Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Deadlywonky on 06 Jun 2011, 08:27
I do beleive it was a cement block to the head and a shovel through the heart.

I think it was actually a spade, and through the sternum, subsequently going through the head of another
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Black Sword on 06 Jun 2011, 08:46
[...]

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Jeph has NEVER been consistent about THAT.


At least he isn't like certain manga artists, where the bosoms are proportionate to the character's confidence level at a given point (thinking of the Hellsing manga, specifically, though there are others).


Er, what? Seras was busty from the start, wasn't she? Integra was pretty small in comparison...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 06 Jun 2011, 10:28
[...]

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Jeph has NEVER been consistent about THAT.


At least he isn't like certain manga artists, where the bosoms are proportionate to the character's confidence level at a given point (thinking of the Hellsing manga, specifically, though there are others).


Er, what? Seras was busty from the start, wasn't she? Integra was pretty small in comparison...

Depends on how much attention you pay to the actual drawings over the course of the series. I mean, compare how huge they were when Seras was first turned to how absolutely gigantic they are when she's wielding the dual artillery machineguns (or the progression from huge to small for Zorin when that fight starts out compared to when she gets her head ground off all over the inside of Hellsing Headquarters).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: SirDudley on 06 Jun 2011, 11:18
Except Pintsize.
Thank you for giving me the image of Pintsize with boobs. Between that and Microsoft's pathetic E3 press conference earlier, I may have to puke on you like a Boomer.


I so hope Marten doesn't start having 'Nam flashbacks because of the coffee.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 06 Jun 2011, 12:01
You people act as though we've never seen Pintsize with boobs. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=955)*



*Yes I know it's a guest strip whatever
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 06 Jun 2011, 13:14
Didn't Hanners have a bad dream where Marten had boobs?

Edit: Yeah, she dreamt that everbody was calling her Marigold.

Now I gotta find that strip, damn you! :-P

Edit again: Yup,  Marten with breasts!  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1873)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Jun 2011, 13:19
Marten  also had a dream in which he had boobs.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2011, 13:19
You mean...this chocolate cake strip? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1873)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Jun 2011, 14:16
Marten's dream (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1169).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Jun 2011, 15:26
EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?

Kleenex.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jun 2011, 15:36
"I sense a great sadness in you young Marten."


I think Padma definitely has a different thought process than everyone else in the QCVerse.






God help us if she and Raven were ever to get together.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Boomslang on 06 Jun 2011, 15:59
God help us if she and Raven were ever to get together.

Oh man, that would be awesome. Bystanders would probably lose brain cells from the conversations, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Jun 2011, 19:27
I think Padma definitely has a different thought process than everyone else in the QCVerse.

So, we need to throw her into the mental asylum?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 06 Jun 2011, 19:34
I so hope Marten doesn't start having 'Nam flashbacks because of the coffee.
Flashbacks to what? The rush-hour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4phFYiMGCIY) in Ho Chi Minh City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gH35_Qvkmw)*? Pretty girls in ao-dai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzPpT2PfWhg)? Surely not to a war that ended while his Dad was still in high-school...

*I love the smell of two-stroke in the morning!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: gprimr1 on 06 Jun 2011, 20:31
If Faye invents a time machine to go back in time and kill herself instead of her dad, she will no longer exist in the future, but if does not exist in the future, she could not have invented a time machine to go back in time and kill herself.

Paradoxes. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jun 2011, 20:43
If Faye invents a time machine to go back in time and kill herself instead of her dad, she will no longer exist in the future, but if does not exist in the future, she could not have invented a time machine to go back in time and kill herself.

Paradoxes. :)

Paradoxes can be Paradoctored.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jun 2011, 20:45
I prefer paraboxes.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 06 Jun 2011, 20:53
A drink or two once in a while is fine, but I don't see the appeal of drinking until you're sick, or getting so loaded you have no memory of the party.

Word.


...and Padma misses the point again.

I read it as deliberate humour, albeit possibly to avoid Marten's point.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Jun 2011, 21:14
That is definitely possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Jun 2011, 21:58
I prefer paraboxes.

Either way, there's a cream for that.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Sorflakne on 06 Jun 2011, 22:17
I just noticed it now, but damn, Padma seems a little too excited to see Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Jun 2011, 22:19
Quote from: Jeph's twitter
Scripting is moving slowly tonight. I am overthinking Padma. Might take the dog for a walk to clear out the cobwebs.

It's easy to overthink someone who thinks differently than you do. 

And Padma is a different sort of thinker, whether differently clued or just avoiding the personal life of our favorite tSB customer. 


Wait, have we ever seen anyone else (other than Faye doing reconnaissance or Hanners accompanying Faye and Marten) actually be  a customer of tSB? 

Maybe the coffee really was  that bad.  Or Renee drove them all off. 

Quote
I just noticed it now, but damn, Padma seems a little too excited to see Marten.

Just excited to try out the new beans...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 06 Jun 2011, 23:38
The funny part of the poll is btw that there is no RETURN OF THE RAVEN option.  :-D

THAT was the option I would go for about last week ... well, the "Raven sciency" option was a sufficient replacement, but Raven already left sciency. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: CompSarge on 07 Jun 2011, 01:10
Hit the nail on the head with that one there, Renee. Townies come in all shapes, sizes, and backgrounds, and they almost always never think that they are townies. :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 07 Jun 2011, 01:18
----> today's comic




---> more space than I feel comfortable trying to accurately render in a forum




----> my head

edit: A definition of "townie" that makes the last panel make sense would be good.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Jun 2011, 01:25
I gotta say, I don't like Renee's hair.  I watched Jeph do it on the ustream, I thik he was rushing to finish.  

But yeah, townies... I've been in enough college towns to know better than argue with Renee.  Marten's a townie, he was dating a townie, all his friends are townies, and this is the drama that the college students miss out on because they're so busy drinking and trying to pass enough courses to come back next year... which is their own drama, not to mention the flighty college relationships.  

You know it's spring when every building on campus is decorated with couples making out by an entrance or in a hall because they have to part ways for a class or two.  It's cute, in a pathetic, needy/horny sort of way.  

God, I need to destress.  
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Jun 2011, 01:26
A definition of "townie" that makes the last panel make sense would be good.

But the next to last panel is  a definition of townie! 

Seriously, a townie is anyone in a college town that's not a college student. 

Definition (College town); a small town or city whose population and economy is dominated by the students from one or more colleges or universities.  So a small place like North Hampton, with several local colleges qualifies.  Larger cities that have many colleges and even big universities don't qualify, because they have other reasons for their existance.  College towns exist to serve the students, and many businesses are predicated on that assumption! 



Watch "Breaking Away". 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheoGB on 07 Jun 2011, 01:29
Here in the UK a 'townie' would be a derogatory term for an urban working class person, specifically one who is likely to be fairly closed-minded and somewhat hostile to outsiders. These days it's fallen away in favour of the even grimmer term, 'chav', but townie never really had the nastiness that term has. Certainly you wouldn't ever describe someone like Marten as a 'townie' over here.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Jun 2011, 01:36
Agreed; the OED and its North American counterpart have distinctly different definitions, and the OED ones are marked "usually derogatory".  The first citation has the phrase "townie thugs".
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 07 Jun 2011, 01:41

Seriously, a townie is anyone in a college town that's not a college student. 

Definition (College town); a small town or city whose population and economy is dominated by the students from one or more colleges or universities.  So a small place like North Hampton, with several local colleges qualifies.  Larger cities that have many colleges and even big universities don't qualify, because they have other reasons for their existance.  College towns exist to serve the students, and many businesses are predicated on that assumption! 

I figured out that much via googling and the comic itself, but beyond that there are so many descriptions of a "townie" that I can only assume that is has simply become a generic insult doled out by people who live in college towns for any reason whatsoever. Including not going back to the cafe owned by your ex-girlfriend.

And I still don't get what makes Marten's drama "townie drama", except that he's not a student, but that seems neither here nor there to me. Obviously there's a lot of "college town" subtext I'm just missing.

It doesn't make sense to me on several levels, but I guess I'm as close as I will get to understanding it.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Jun 2011, 01:46
It was a bit unclear to me at first, but I'm gussing mostly uppity college kids use the term "townie" and that's why Marten doesn't like being called that. I'm not saying Padma's uppity; she's not, but if I heard the term come mostly from over-privileged university douchebags I'd object whenever anyone else said it too.

Is this even close to being correct, Carl? Like I was saying earlier (in the stream, not here), I'm from a (kinda) big city and I've almost never heard the term before tonight.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: VonKleist on 07 Jun 2011, 01:53
Good thing urbandictionary offers 32 pages of definitions on "townie".

I was a townie in the town where I grew up, because it had a private art-college. But the joke was more on the students because they payed to go to college in the hinterlands rather than a place with any kind of culture or "night life".

Also it had more of the british kind of "townies"..
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 07 Jun 2011, 02:01
Good thing urbandictionary offers 32 pages of definitions on "townie".

It's also a good thing that wikipedia offers a definition of Segal's law.

If a man with two watches is never sure, then a man with 32 pages of definitions has no chance.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: VonKleist on 07 Jun 2011, 02:06
Yeah, then again

a person living in an urban environment where the concept in question doesn't apply shouldn't really bother with it  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Platypodes on 07 Jun 2011, 02:31
It was a new word for me too, but googling townie stereotype brought me a number of articles from college papers about college students' perceptions of "townies" (and college-town residents' correspondingly negative perceptions of students).

The description that seemed to me to most fit the comic was from a University of Virginia student who wrote, "the term 'townie' comes with a stigma that often refers to a person who should be looked down upon, a person who is either uneducated or just too flat-out unmotivated to get their shit together, get out of town and go someplace 'real,'" and illustrates it with the image of "the freelancing unemployed 'poet' who hangs out on the mall all day thinking deep thoughts." -- http://www.thedeclaration.org/article/gownie-townie

Using this stereotype, the the phrase "townie drama" does fit a guy hanging around in a coffee shop being angsty about how his romantic woes are keeping him away from the other coffee shop where he used to spend copious amounts of time hanging around.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Jun 2011, 02:40
Welcome, new person!

That makes sense.

Does this mean Padma is a student? First we've heard of it.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Jun 2011, 03:08
I assumed from what she said that tSB is in or by a college area, so she's used to having students in (there's been no sign that CoD is like that, and this strip makes it clear that CoD is in the town centre).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 07 Jun 2011, 03:22
It was a new word for me too, but googling townie stereotype brought me a number of articles from college papers about college students' perceptions of "townies" (and college-town residents' correspondingly negative perceptions of students).

The description that seemed to me to most fit the comic was from a University of Virginia student who wrote, "the term 'townie' comes with a stigma that often refers to a person who should be looked down upon, a person who is either uneducated or just too flat-out unmotivated to get their shit together, get out of town and go someplace 'real,'" and illustrates it with the image of "the freelancing unemployed 'poet' who hangs out on the mall all day thinking deep thoughts." -- http://www.thedeclaration.org/article/gownie-townie

Using this stereotype, the the phrase "townie drama" does fit a guy hanging around in a coffee shop being angsty about how his romantic woes are keeping him away from the other coffee shop where he used to spend copious amounts of time hanging around.

Guess the coffee is making tSB more like CoD than Marten thought.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: rje on 07 Jun 2011, 05:33
One of the places I lived a townie was only a derogatory term amongst the college students and it usually meant someone college-aged who grew up in the place the college was located but went from high-school immediately to a job (or no job) - and usually did blue-collar work, or had a McJob like fast food. The local kid who went to work at his uncle's car shop as a mechanic, for instance, right out of high school, was a townie. And you don't date the townies, for that way lies a dead-end.

Of course college kid / college boy was also derogatory, but the other way around. Equal oppourtunity dislike, naturally! (Though college kids sure could be jerks to the locals, well enough.)

It seemed to be a more East Coast thing, I never heard the term in the south or Midwest. I don't know if it means the same thing these days though.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 07 Jun 2011, 05:51
"Townie" can be used to refer (usually in condescending manner) to the permanent popuation of any pace with a sizable temporary population. It's used by college kids/faculty, etc. But also tourists and "summer people" in a tourist area. Corollary: The permanent residents plave a premium on being "from here."
On another note: I think Padma's approach to clue-ishness will evolve into her becoming the "perspective character" -- her role wil be to remind our self- absorbed protagonists it's not all about them. I like how she's depicted as going about her job while giving half an ear to Marten's story. Drama's all well and good, but life goes on, is what could be on Padma's T-shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 07 Jun 2011, 05:54
Paradoxes can be Paradoctored.

Applying for work with the Circle Of Ourbourghs, are we?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 07 Jun 2011, 06:00
"Townie" can be used to refer (usually in condescending manner) to the permanent popuation of any pace with a sizable temporary population. It's used by college kids/faculty, etc. But also tourists and "summer people" in a tourist area. Corollary: The permanent residents plave a premium on being "from here."
On another note: I think Padma's approach to clue-ishness will evolve into her becoming the "perspective character" -- her role wil be to remind our self- absorbed protagonists it's not all about them. I like how she's depicted as going about her job while giving half an ear to Marten's story. Drama's all well and good, but life goes on, is what could be on Padma's T-shirt.

To make a 90's Sitcom reference, Padma is going to be QC's Wilson (except you'll get to see the lower half of her face).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Jun 2011, 06:01
I thought it was more Marten was thinking along the lines of that scene in Jaws where the Brody family are on the beach with their friends and Ellen asks when does she become an islander. But she can never be considered as one, because she wasn't born there. Same thing with Marten, he knows he wasn't born there and by his definition he isn't a townie.

Incidently, does anyone know what part of California Marten is from?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Black Sword on 07 Jun 2011, 06:19
Comments on today's strip:

1) Padma's bust size is consistent with yesterday's! Yay!
2) Bonding with the Secret Bakery staff! Also yay!
3) What in the world is a townie? This was answered above me.
Related to 3, I'd have to say Marten is not a townie. He may have roots in town now, but he could always get up and leave to chase something else, if the correct conditions occur.

[...]

EDIT: Is it just me, or is Padma more bosomy in this strip than she normally is?
Jeph has NEVER been consistent about THAT.


At least he isn't like certain manga artists, where the bosoms are proportionate to the character's confidence level at a given point (thinking of the Hellsing manga, specifically, though there are others).


Er, what? Seras was busty from the start, wasn't she? Integra was pretty small in comparison...

Depends on how much attention you pay to the actual drawings over the course of the series. I mean, compare how huge they were when Seras was first turned to how absolutely gigantic they are when she's wielding the dual artillery machineguns (or the progression from huge to small for Zorin when that fight starts out compared to when she gets her head ground off all over the inside of Hellsing Headquarters).

I don't doubt you, but visual citations, please?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 07 Jun 2011, 06:50
I'm not going to violate copyright law just to win an internet argument. Go buy the books and read them yourself.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: ChicagoTed on 07 Jun 2011, 07:00
The description that seemed to me to most fit the comic was from a University of Virginia student who wrote, "the term 'townie' comes with a stigma that often refers to a person who should be looked down upon, a person who is either uneducated or just too flat-out unmotivated to get their shit together, get out of town and go someplace 'real,'" and illustrates it with the image of "the freelancing unemployed 'poet' who hangs out on the mall all day thinking deep thoughts." -- http://www.thedeclaration.org/article/gownie-townie

Using this stereotype, the the phrase "townie drama" does fit a guy hanging around in a coffee shop being angsty about how his romantic woes are keeping him away from the other coffee shop where he used to spend copious amounts of time hanging around.

Being a UVA student in the process of becoming a townie (because Charlottesville is awesome) I have to say that view is pretty accurate for the average UVA student (White upper-middle class with a sense of privilege).  I'd take the article with a grain of salt though, as many of the writers for The Dec are hipsters trying to be ironic.

But yeah, it certainly isn't an endearing term.  Like "hipster" its not necessarily well defined, but it is something you DO NOT want to be called.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Jun 2011, 07:19
RJE: I think the term itself is more Northeast US than anywhere else, but I could hear it being used in the city where my alma mater is located. A lot of the UW system campus cities are geared towards catering to the the college kids, but the locals tend to see the kids as only business opportunities and/or nuisances.

Of course, that doesn't mean that someone graduates from the school and tries to start a pizza place or a bar downtown. Usually, these things end in failure, unlike CoD and tSB.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Jun 2011, 08:47
Well, CoD would be the exception, but Jim seems to be a townie. 

And Dora's parents live nearby, so she's probably one as well! 

Which brings me to Pama...  using the word townie, she was probably a stuent who stayed.  Butthere's another inteeresting possibility - a faculty brat.  Born (or at least raised) in town by a faculty member (or two*), she's never be considered a "townie" at home, but clearly is one, and knows many, straddling both worlds. 

* college towns like north Hampton, with several smaller colleges, are often the only solution to the "two-body problem".  This is when two academics make a couple and both need a job.  It's rare that one school has openings in both disciplines (or worse, two openings if they're the same discipline), so each getting a job at a different college is often the only answer. 

I get the feeling Padma's folks are professors... making her a native, but still an outsider.  When I was at Purdue in the 80's, the circles I wound up moving in were mostly professor's kids - locals, but they got a free education, and all their folks were "outsiders".  Even though they went to school all their lives with the "real" townies, and had several as friends, they were still an "outsider" group that stuck together. 

Society is bizarre, at best.  And class systems are real, even in America. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 07 Jun 2011, 09:13
Well, CoD would be the exception, but Jim seems to be a townie. 
Which brings me to Pama...  using the word townie, she was probably a stuent who stayed.  Butthere's another inteeresting possibility - a faculty brat.  Born (or at least raised) in town by a faculty member (or two*), she's never be considered a "townie" at home, but clearly is one, and knows many, straddling both worlds. 
I get the feeling Padma's folks are professors... making her a native, but still an outsider.  When I was at Purdue in the 80's, the circles I wound up moving in were mostly professor's kids - locals, but they got a free education, and all their folks were "outsiders".  Even though they went to school all their lives with the "real" townies, and had several as friends, they were still an "outsider" group that stuck together. 

Society is bizarre, at best.  And class systems are real, even in America. 
I have to totally agree with your last statment.

But, uh, where has it even been suggested that Padma's parents are anything but a complete mystery? I can't recall any of tSB's staffers mentioning any relations outside of work yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jacjyd on 07 Jun 2011, 09:25


But yeah, it certainly isn't an endearing term.  Like "hipster" its not necessarily well defined, but it is something you DO NOT want to be called.

I'd rather be called a hipster than a townie. But whenever I heard townie being used it was by college students (including myself at the time), and college students are pretty obnoxious.  But our townies were sort of notorious for stealing our stuff on move in/move out day and forming bike gangs (like, bicycles) and terrorizing us overprivileged kids.  So it was a condescending term, out of fear...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Black Sword on 07 Jun 2011, 10:03
I'm not going to violate copyright law just to win an internet argument. Go buy the books and read them yourself.

I have read them, hence my puzzlement with your breast enhancement statement. That said, that was a bit hostile, don't you think? Even if the Internet was a massive AI out to get you, fair use for nonprofit educational purposes, in combination with minimal amount and insubstantial section (i.e. breasts) of the work as a whole, with minimal if any value detracted from the work put you on the right side of copyright law.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 07 Jun 2011, 10:17
Even if the Internet was a massive AI out to get you...

Isn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Jun 2011, 10:21
I suspect Carl-E extrapolated from personal experience that Padma's parents were professors, mostly for the obvious reason: her name indicates she's not exactly native to the area. One characteristic of many small colleges is that they hire people from outside the immediate area (and, possibly in Padma's parents' case, outside of the country) as professors at their school. This explains why you would see the children of Kenyan natives in a bookstore in a place like Holyoke, or a Pakistani working at a pizza place in Amherst.

And as for location: I suspect tSB is located a block or two from Smif College, whereas CoD is located closer to the Interstate/Amtrak line. It's been speculated by This Troper ;) that CoD is located somewhere over on Pleasant Street, which is a bit further away from the Smif campus, but not far away enough that Smif girls wouldn't end up there for some coffee. My suspicion is that tSB is located on a dead-end street that would be (generally) opposite the way Marten would hoof it to work from home.

(EDITED for clarity - I was rushing before work, sorry.)
 

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Jun 2011, 10:25
I believe we've never heard what part of California Marten is from. We can speculate that someone like his mom would be more comfortable in southern CA.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 07 Jun 2011, 11:03
I'm not going to violate copyright law just to win an internet argument. Go buy the books and read them yourself.

I have read them, hence my puzzlement with your breast enhancement statement. That said, that was a bit hostile, don't you think? Even if the Internet was a massive AI out to get you, fair use for nonprofit educational purposes, in combination with minimal amount and insubstantial section (i.e. breasts) of the work as a whole, with minimal if any value detracted from the work put you on the right side of copyright law.

It is discussed in depth on the commentary tracks of the newest run of the anime, as well, which is where I got the comment from. As for the hostility bit, I was making a remark that wasn't intended to derail the thread and you're trying to pursue it. Plus I don't think I should have to explain something that is almost well known enough to have it's own page on TVTropes (Hellsing was just the most ready example because it is the most recent anime/only manga I've read, there are others and it's one of the things anime is regularly mocked for).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jun 2011, 11:27
Crap, I forgot to post the results of the poll.  Raven being sciency = a billion, everything else = much less.  Also, nobody noticed the lack of waffles.  Hell, even I didn't notice until I was making the new poll.  So here you are.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Emperor Norton on 07 Jun 2011, 14:13
I live in Athens, Georgia (University of Georgia location) and when we talk about townies, we mean the old 60s 70s hippie guys who are still in the town. And yeah, townie is VERY derogatory. Which is why I hate the "everyone who lives in the town and doesn't go to college there" definition. Screw you college students, I've lived here my whole life, THIS IS MY HOME, you go somewhere else if you have a problem with that. (Not that I hate all the college students, or even most of them, a lot of them are cool guys/gals. I do hate the incoming freshman who can't figure out that you need to stand at the crossing signals and ONLY GO WHEN IT SAYS GO. I have no idea how many times I've had to slam on brakes from people crossing randomly in the middle of downtown, or just ignoring lights at the crosswalks)
 
(Granted, after 10 years as a building contractor, I am back in school, but not at UGA. Also, the students wouldn't dare say anything bad about you when you are fixing their plumbing/roof/etc.)

EDIT: Does it just, occur to anyone else that Padma, even if what she is saying is 100% ACCURATE is just... really flippantly rude.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Boomslang on 07 Jun 2011, 14:25
Well, yeah. Padma says things that are rude and hurtful because she's too 'differently clued' to realize that that might not be the best way of saying it. I suffer from a similar problem.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jun 2011, 14:37
Renee's logic is shit.  If Marten was a student and his ex worked at/frequented a particular coffeeshop, wouldn't he still avoid it after a breakup?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Jun 2011, 14:52
Look at it as someone who doesn't know Marten or Dora, their respective histories, etc. You have a couple that broke up amicably, no blazing rows, no "I hope you get dolphin sphyllus!" being shouted at the top of their lungs. Its just "Well, this is the end, I'll be out by the end of the day." To anyone outside of that social circle, you'd be a little hard pressed to see what a break up like that would be that awkward that you'd be avoiding C.o.D.

Remember, we have a pseudo-omnipitent view of the QC-world, the characters don't.

As for Padma being "clued differently", some people speak their mind and are simply blunt about matters, simple as that. Some people are also missing that mental filter that makes them think "maybe I shouldn't say that..."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jun 2011, 15:03
I'm actually not sure if Padma is including herself when she defines townie.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 07 Jun 2011, 15:22
Well, yeah. Padma says things that are rude and hurtful because she's too 'differently clued' to realize that that might not be the best way of saying it. I suffer from a similar problem.

As for Padma being "clued differently", some people speak their mind and are simply blunt about matters, simple as that. Some people are also missing that mental filter that makes them think "maybe I shouldn't say that..."

And some of us doesn't even get what that filter is, we take words for truth and we speak just as simple as that. Only when we see the faces of those who heard the faux pas we realize there was some damned innuendo or whatever in what we just said...
 :psyduck:

(for those who wonder, yes I have Aspergers syndrome)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 07 Jun 2011, 16:19
Renee's logic is shit.  If Marten was a student and his ex worked at/frequented a particular coffeeshop, wouldn't he still avoid it after a breakup?

I agree that what Renee said is nonsense, but I think that Platypodes has successfully read her mind. I think I've finally got it. >.>

Using this stereotype, the the phrase "townie drama" does fit a guy hanging around in a coffee shop being angsty about how his romantic woes are keeping him away from the other coffee shop where he used to spend copious amounts of time hanging around.


Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 07 Jun 2011, 17:02
I suspect Carl-E extrapolated from personal experience that Padma's parents were professors, mostly for the obvious reason: her name indicates she's not exactly native to the area. One characteristic of many small colleges is that they hire people from outside the immediate area (and, possibly in Padma's parents' case, outside of the country) as professors at their school.
I haven't visited Massachusetts, much less Northampton, so I don't know how multi-ethnic the town might be, but Carl-E's hypothesis sounds plausible. Padma's "differently clued" style might also give a hint of growing up in another culture. I know from personal experience that ideas about what is polite,  how one should talk (especially in an different language), physical and mental privacy, and many other things, vary a great deal between different cultures, and I have suffered enough from the "the Chinese are so rude" stereotype to know how this can strike other people. Anyone who thinks politeness is the same everywhere else has presumably never been anywhere else.

I have heard of the "town vs. gown" thing, but having gone to uni in the largest city in Australia* (Sydney has about 4.5 million people), I've never really encountered it. I think Carl-E is correct that it arises where the population of students is large in relation to the total urban population. According to Wikipedia, Northampton has a population of less than 30,000 (but calls itself a city :laugh:), so I can imagine that students from Smith and maybe the other Five Colleges do make an impression.

*My home town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai) has a population of over 23 million. Sydney is just a suburb...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Jun 2011, 17:05
I'm actually not sure if Padma is including herself when she defines townie.

This is another reason I supposed that she may be in an "in-between" social circle (i.e. faculty brat).  That, and her extraordinarily diferent way of speaking her mind.  

I'd venture to say that she may well have been home schooled, too...  but that's a reach.   :wink:

Edit:  Akima!  I've been ninja'd by the best! 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: St.Clair on 07 Jun 2011, 18:24
Martin: bussss-ted.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 07 Jun 2011, 18:32

*My home town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai) has a population of over 23 million. Sydney is just a suburb...  :-D

Isn't comparing a city's population to the population of Shanghai setting the bar kinda high?  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Smoot on 07 Jun 2011, 19:00
Yeah, no, not gonna play "your city's not a real city". Glad as a grape that your town's big, but it reminds me too much of vacationing New Yorkers who insist that only their hallowed burg can be called "The City". If it's all the same, I'll continue to call my nearest city a city, and if it offends your ears, I'll lend you a Q-Tip and a smile.

Looked up some of the links about 'townies' (googling "townie stereotype" as suggested). I rather like the notion that townies hang out with collegiates to 'better their station in life'. Like collegiates are coated in gold-dust and they're hoping to rub some off.  :roll:

I'm a townie of the tourist-area variety, and catch it both ways- I've lived here year-round for 22 years (thus making me a webfooted townie to tourists), but neither I nor my parents were born here (thus making me not-native- a "Washashore", in our dumbass local parlance) to the 'real' natives. Ridiculous crap all around.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Jun 2011, 19:10
Yeah, no, not gonna play "your city's not a real city". Glad as a grape that your town's big, but it reminds me too much of vacationing New Yorkers who insist that only their hallowed burg can be called "The City".

See, I just go with the European definition of what a city is...if its an urban settlement with a cathedral, it can be called a city...as long as they have the appropriate charter. Works easily enough. :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Smoot on 07 Jun 2011, 19:26
Sooo... if it doesn't have a charter from a European country, it doesn't count? ;) Got it.

I'm not so sure I see Padma a 'differently clued' as much as... okay. Dora loves Marten (now in a 'friend' way, but whatever). Faye loves Marten (c'mon... we all know she'd risk jail time for him if need be). Hanners somehow got to know him via stalking and he's one of her dearest friends. And so on. I could go further, but for one reason or another, virtually all the cast we've seen have a reason to care about Marten.

To Padma, she's some guy she's served coffee to a few times and saw in a bar. He told her his life story (which, lemme tell ya, customers do a LOT- I don't mind, but please don't expect me to pass a quiz on it an hour later), but afaict has never taken an interest in her beyond being a recipient of "Oh, so, as I was saying about my ex at the other place..."

I just don't know that she's "on board" with the Marten-love, and thus owes him much in the way of brainspace. (Not saying anyone's bad or anything, just... he's this guy who buys coffee sometimes, and knows Steve whom she thought was cute that one time.)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 07 Jun 2011, 19:44
Well, t least she remembers his name now, that's something.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: themacnut on 07 Jun 2011, 19:46
Marten may grow on Padma if he continues spending most of his off-work time there. Now Renee on the other hand...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jun 2011, 19:48
If it's all the same, I'll continue to call my nearest city a city
A city?  Sure.  The city?  Probably not. [laugh] (I live about half an hour from the city...yes, that one, so I'm just used to it.  I remember visiting Colorado College in high school and trying not to laugh when they called Denver "The City".  Sure, it's definitely a city, but it's hardly earned a "the".)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Smoot on 07 Jun 2011, 19:53
Marten sure seemed to think there was something wrong with being a townie, though- given how much he was kicking about having the term applied to him.
What's the matter- Amherst's good enough to live in, but not good enough to let people think you're from there? ;)

Though, with a college-library job, he might be enough of a remora on the Smif shark to legitimately consider himself not-a-townie. Question is: does he now sigh in relief? :)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 07 Jun 2011, 21:07
If it's all the same, I'll continue to call my nearest city a city
A city?  Sure.  The city?  Probably not. [laugh] (I live about half an hour from the city...yes, that one, so I'm just used to it.  I remember visiting Colorado College in high school and trying not to laugh when they called Denver "The City".  Sure, it's definitely a city, but it's hardly earned a "the".)

The word "the" isn't limited to the sense of superlative or unique.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: BlueMark on 07 Jun 2011, 21:15
Back in my university days (when dinosaurs roamed) a townie was anyone who wasn't part of the college community - so we didn't consider professors and most employees to be townies - but their families were.  Under that definition Marten is not a townie, but he's pretty damn close.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Boomslang on 07 Jun 2011, 21:20
Maybe because I'm from the west coast, but I've never actually heard the word spoken aloud. Of course, why you would disparage the majority of people you'll meet, I don't quite get. If you're not going to go into academia, you're going to BE one of the townies as soon as college is done. And the differences between the two, besides age range, are rather minimal when you get down to it.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Sorflakne on 07 Jun 2011, 21:28

If it's all the same, I'll continue to call my nearest city a city
A city?  Sure.  The city?  Probably not. [laugh] (I live about half an hour from the city...yes, that one, so I'm just used to it.  I remember visiting Colorado College in high school and trying not to laugh when they called Denver "The City".  Sure, it's definitely a city, but it's hardly earned a "the".)
In Minnesota, the Minneapolis/St Paul metropolitan area is commonly called the "Twin Cities" or just "The Cities".  If I'm talking about activities in or travel to The Cities, I get some hilarious 'WTF are you smoking?' looks from people that are from states that don't border Minnesota (with the exception of Illinois and Michigan).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 07 Jun 2011, 21:44
It's all part of making yourself feel superior to some undiffrentiated Other.
Just to throw more fun into the mix, where I'm from, any incorporated (that is, legally self-governing with a legislative body of its own) area with a population of 5,000 or more is a city; under 5,000 and incorporated is a village. The nearest such agglomeration to one's location is referred to as "into town" or simply "town." Some of us are aware of the capital-C "City" conceit of some, repeat some, Manhattanites and don't give it much thought.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Jun 2011, 21:56
Ooooh, an "up-stater"!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 07 Jun 2011, 22:14
A breakthrough! Padma remembered his name!   :-D

As for the rest . . . . .


DAMN!!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Jun 2011, 22:30
From what we've seen so far I wouldn't be surprised if Padma's been calling him "Marcus" and "Marvin" for the past three weeks.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 07 Jun 2011, 22:35
At least she didn't call him "Martin."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: St.Clair on 07 Jun 2011, 23:30
"The City.  My The City."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: SirDudley on 07 Jun 2011, 23:58
At least she didn't call him "Martin."
To be honest, that would be an understandable mistake, all things considered.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Sorflakne on 08 Jun 2011, 00:02
I just now noticed the full title of this week's WCT thread.  Talk about your coincidences  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 08 Jun 2011, 00:42
At least she didn't call him "Martin."
Why ? Is that an ugly name ?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: JackFaerie on 08 Jun 2011, 01:02
Y'know, if we go by the idea that one can only be called a "townie" in a small college town (like, if you go to school in George Washington in DC or University of Chicago, the natives/non-students can't be called "townies" because the city's existence doesn't depend on the university), it makes sense that it would be derogatory. Ie, if you live in DC and Chicago and aren't going to school there, you're doing things with your life! You have an exciting reason to be there! If, on the other hand, you're living in a small college town and aren't a student, and the whole town basically revolves around the college/university, then you're a deadbeat who hasn't been able to get out and go to a "real city" and do anything with their life.

Not saying I agree with this worldview, but it kind of makes sense that it exists.

(And actually, I used to live in a college town, and most of my friends who graduated and didn't move away relatively soon really have ended up in pretty dead-end jobs just kinda passing the time and not doing anything much with themselves... so maybe I agree a little. I feel it's different if you were raised there, though--then you have family and history. And NoHo is a much nicer place to live in than the town I am speaking of.)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 08 Jun 2011, 01:31
Angus has some real balls starting that conversation with Faye while she's holding the Malaysian Battle Spatula.

Also, Raven: Yay!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Gerardic on 08 Jun 2011, 01:45
Funny enough, I recently started dating a girl that we get on freakish well, the problem is we both read each other so well and often ask each other even though we know the answer - only because we like hearing it.

However we confirmed to be dating and probably in a relationship, but we don't see ourselves as boyfriend or girlfriend just yet cos we are dating, despite the fact we both know we have gone a lot further than that and is often subject of some jokes and teasing between us.
Is this an opinion shared by others or just me? Dating doesn't mean boyfriend/girlfriend, relationship does and that require commitment in someways.

Oh and we are currently playing a game of who would say the L word first often try to trick each other to say it by using friends' statements such as "Damn XXXX, she is right, I am indeed falling for you". All in good humour.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: noteventhesameguy on 08 Jun 2011, 01:53
Is it wrong that the only thing I thought of at the end was "Gelfling? I want a Gelfling!"
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 08 Jun 2011, 01:55
Faye: Declare relationship status.

You cannot do it. You cannot say the word "boyfriend."

Instead, you flail about in an adorable manner befitting your tsundere status. And there is much rejoicing.

Angus: Delight in having trolled Faye.

Truly, you are victorious this day.



Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Near Lurker on 08 Jun 2011, 01:55
Well, if that's what she wants, I've heard there's a skinny, dark-haired, pushing thirty, meat-eating, inexplicably feminine boy who's into ex-goths and has recently become available...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: themacnut on 08 Jun 2011, 01:56
Heh Faye sounds like one of those commitmentphobic player-type guys finally having to admit they've got a steady girlfriend. I know Faye has her own issues with commitment but damn. Still, good on Angus for making her say it.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Jun 2011, 02:06
So the Pugnaceous Peach is now a Cute Coconut.  (Cute Custard-apple, Cute Cucumber, Cute Courgette?  the options are really limited it seems.)

Oh, and it seems that Raven got back behind the counter OK.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Blackjoker on 08 Jun 2011, 02:11
For some reason Raven looks really odd, however I fear that if Angus makes any other comments after 'this is cuter than I expected' he may in fact be boyflung, or have to face an angry Faye wielding a Malaysian battle spatula.


(mod: moved to correct week's thread)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: 0kamisama on 08 Jun 2011, 02:45
Yes, Raven seems to be the expert on boy-flings.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: 0kamisama on 08 Jun 2011, 02:53
Hey, we're up to 1943! The Germans have lost North Africa, and the Russians are turning the tide in the east!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Dust on 08 Jun 2011, 03:38
Angus has some real balls starting that conversation with Faye while she's holding the Malaysian Battle Spatula.

Also, Raven: Yay!

Is this the first time we've seen it? If so, yay for us.

Regardless, yay for Raven.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 08 Jun 2011, 03:55
At last we see the legendary Malaysian Battle Spatula! And tongue-tied Faye is funny.

And new-art Raven reveals a retcon. Her tattoo now reads which is Japanese kanji meaning "princess" whereas on its first appearance (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=410), it was two Chinese characters 公主 which mean the same thing. Did Jeph think we wouldn't notice?  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Arancaytar on 08 Jun 2011, 04:07
"Borthrelm" sounds like one of the Rohirrim.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Jun 2011, 04:18
And new-art Raven reveals a retcon.

But it's also a correction, if the previous characters were Chinese when Raven was saying they were Japanese - is that right?  Presumably that had been pointed out to Jeph at some point.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 08 Jun 2011, 04:25
At last we see the legendary Malaysian Battle Spatula! And tongue-tied Faye is funny.

And new-art Raven reveals a retcon. Her tattoo now reads which is Japanese kanji meaning "princess" whereas on its first appearance (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=410), it was two Chinese characters 公主 which mean the same thing. Did Jeph think we wouldn't notice?  :laugh:

And a helluva spatula it is - just imagine the size of the pancake that could flip....  And all the maple syrup that goes with it.

And the tongue tied Faye was truly cute - but Angus is going to get it for this.

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jun 2011, 04:29
That thing is huge!  What do you do, flip your enemies when they're done? 

Also, Angus will be OK - Faye's already saying she's sorry for not being able to say it.  This is a huge change from apologizing that she'll have to kill him now. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 08 Jun 2011, 04:31
But it's also a correction, if the previous characters were Chinese when Raven was saying they were Japanese - is that right?  Presumably that had been pointed out to Jeph at some point.
Perhaps so, though I'd always assumed the fact that Raven thought she was getting a Japanese tattoo, but ended up with a Chinese one, was part of the joke.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 08 Jun 2011, 04:35
That thing is huge!  What do you do, flip your enemies when they're done? 

Also, Angus will be OK - Faye's already saying she's sorry for not being able to say it.  This is a huge change from apologizing that she'll have to kill him now. 


She'll still have to kill him, she's just apologizing for not being able to say he's her boyfriend.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 08 Jun 2011, 04:44
Yea! We finnaly see the Battle Spatula!

To follow up on the Padma boobs question from yesterday, hasn't Angus lost some weight too? He's almost as thin as Marten today.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: rje on 08 Jun 2011, 05:19
oh my I did not know Faye could be that adorable x3  And look she's not blowing him off like NO *whack* she's actually trying to do it despite multiple flubs. Growth!
And borthrelm is an awesome word.
I want to use that word for something.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 08 Jun 2011, 05:38
Take the "b" off and you've got an actual band name.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Jun 2011, 06:09
I'd always assumed the fact that Raven thought she was getting a Japanese tattoo, but ended up with a Chinese one, was part of the joke.

But very few of us would be in a position to get that!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Jun 2011, 06:14
So the Pugnaceous Peach is now a Cute Cucumber.

What? You mean Faye is under suspicion of causing a large E-Coli outbreak? Or is that something the Germans are spreading around again?  :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Black Sword on 08 Jun 2011, 06:27
This comic was adorable. The cherry on top would be Faye wearing the Tsundere shirt to match the scene!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 08 Jun 2011, 06:47
And borthrelm is an awesome word.

When I first read that it made me think of the word "brothel." But that's probably just me  :psyduck:

Faye's head is going to explode if she isn't careful  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: sitnspin on 08 Jun 2011, 08:00
I never thought I would say this, but I totally identify with Faye here. I've dated a lot, but only ever referred to two women as my "girlfriend."  And I married one of them.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 08 Jun 2011, 08:07
It's OK, Faye. We umbersdanb.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 08 Jun 2011, 08:35
At last we see the legendary Malaysian Battle Spatula! And tongue-tied Faye is funny.

And new-art Raven reveals a retcon. Her tattoo now reads which is Japanese kanji meaning "princess" whereas on its first appearance (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=410), it was two Chinese characters 公主 which mean the same thing. Did Jeph think we wouldn't notice?  :laugh:

It's a magical tattoo; it can actually depict whatever the bearer wants it to.

Also, good Lord that spatula is comically large.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 08 Jun 2011, 08:58
It's a magical tattoo; it can actually depict whatever the bearer wants it to.

And, maybe it's simply an artist's an artist's gaffe. Not remembering which language he used about a year ago. The actual thought behind the tatoo was remembered!

Or maybe, Jeph is doing a shout-out to Marty Feldman's portrayal of Igor?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 08 Jun 2011, 09:39
If I didn't take it on faith Jeph ignores the fora, I would say the Malaysian Battle Spatula is a giant TAKE THAT to earlier comments about how he draws things undersized. And yeah, you could take an arm off with that thing. Maybe it's used to scoop beans for roasting?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Jun 2011, 09:48
At least she didn't call him "Martin."
Why ? Is that an ugly name ?
The Week of D-Day. Yes, it's somewhat ironic, but I doubt Jeph was thinking that when he started the strip eight years ago...

I believe we've never heard what part of California Marten is from. We can speculate that someone like his mom would be more comfortable in southern CA.
Oh look, someone's asked Jeph via Tumblr... ("SF area, I assume").
This makes sense. Haight-Ashbury, anyone?

And as for today: it did look like Raven's tattoo was "tacked on". However, in the grand scheme of things, it's a minor point. And Akima: you have to understand, more than two-thirds of Jeph's fanbase can't tell the difference between Mandarin Chinese characters and Kanji - at least without Google Translate.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 08 Jun 2011, 09:56
Regarding the size of the Malaysian Battle Spatula:

Quote from: Faye in strip 541
You could lop off a hand with that thing!

The spatula showed in todays strip is clearly in the "chop off heads" category. Maybe it's a Philippine Battle Spatula?  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 08 Jun 2011, 10:30
If I didn't take it on faith Jeph ignores the fora, I would say the Malaysian Battle Spatula is a giant TAKE THAT to earlier comments about how he draws things undersized. And yeah, you could take an arm off with that thing. Maybe it's used to scoop beans for roasting?

Maybe Dora roasts over an open fire...  wood or coal or some other burny-stuff.     Then I could see the "battle spatula" being a scraper or tool for manipulating the fire/removing ashes from under the roaster.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: SirDudley on 08 Jun 2011, 10:48
At last we see the legendary Malaysian Battle Spatula! And tongue-tied Faye is funny.

And new-art Raven reveals a retcon. Her tattoo now reads which is Japanese kanji meaning "princess" whereas on its first appearance (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=410), it was two Chinese characters 公主 which mean the same thing. Did Jeph think we wouldn't notice?  :laugh:

And a helluva spatula it is - just imagine the size of the pancake that could flip....  And all the maple syrup that goes with it.

And the tongue tied Faye was truly cute - but Angus is going to get it for this.
While I am impressed with the size of the spatula, I was expecting something a little more...epic in its design. Unless it has add-ons that are in the back that make up for that.

And yes, Angus....you are SO going to leave the shop walking funny. At minimum.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 08 Jun 2011, 11:00
 A blast from the past for Faye & Angus  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445) *

I especially love Hanner's expression in the last panel!



*Also check the previous day's panel for the lead-in.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Welu on 08 Jun 2011, 11:36
Being late for the subject of "townies". Here in Northern Ireland and the south, there's townies and culchies. Culchie is someone from rural areas and townie is more urban areas. There's nothing bad or good about these terms really, just about where you're from but they might be used jokingly for mocking. Example, "Go milk your cow, culchie!"

Faye's difficulty reminds me of when my current boyfriend and I had reached the going steady stage. In the end I asked something like, "I'm thinking of changing some of my Facebook stuff. Should I... Uh... Change my... Um... Single? Thingy? That?"
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Jun 2011, 11:41
Being late for the subject of "townies". Here in Northern Ireland and the south, there's townies and culchies. Culchie is someone from rural areas and townie is more urban areas. There's nothing bad or good about these terms really, just about where you're from but they might be used jokingly for mocking. Example, "Go milk your cow, culchie!"

To be fair, a lot of people living in cities around the country think that if you have a back garden, then you're a culchie. But yes, I agree with you about how there isn't any real intent to insult someone by calling them a culchie, and they'll just be as likely to throw a mocking term back. Why? Because its all in good fun :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Jun 2011, 11:47
"Borthrelm" sounds like a mineral, as in "a lump of borthrelm from the mines at Joachimsthal".
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2011, 12:07
I'd always assumed the fact that Raven thought she was getting a Japanese tattoo, but ended up with a Chinese one, was part of the joke.

But very few of us would be in a position to get that!
It's what us Tropers call the Bilingual Bonus (or trilingual, with English as the third).

He's almost as thin as Marten today.
Well, he has been getting a certain amount of...exercise lately...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 08 Jun 2011, 12:19
"Borthrelm" sounds like a mineral, as in "a lump of borthrelm from the mines at Joachimsthal".

Actually, I thought it might have been one of Eomir's Lieutenants.   :-D



So that's the Malaysian Battle Spatula - Cool.

Awwww, Faye's cute when she cabnt cay sertayn worms
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2011, 12:23
Awwww, Faye's cute when she cabnt cay sertayn worms
What are you saying?  I don't umbersdanb...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: carg1 on 08 Jun 2011, 12:35
The return of Raven.  Yes.  Also, today's strip instantly made me think of "I'm Your Boyfriend Now" by They Might Be Giants.  It makes a nice theme while reading the strip. :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: slydon on 08 Jun 2011, 14:38
Faye looks a little like Ukyo wielding her okonomiyaki spatula.
 (http://images.wikia.com/ranma/images/5/58/UkyoKuonji.jpg)
/nerd
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 08 Jun 2011, 15:28
"Borthrelm" sounds like a mineral, as in "a lump of borthrelm from the mines at Joachimsthal".
Borthrelm is where the Borths live.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jun 2011, 18:41
That's Borthrealm

Borthrelm is just south of here.  It's a family name.  J. D. Borthrelm settled there in the 1830's. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 08 Jun 2011, 18:44
Awwww, Faye's cute when she cabnt cay sertayn worms
What are you saying?  I don't umbersdanb...

retteb si siht taht epoh I
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Jun 2011, 18:50
Or mbyae you can udnrstnaed tihs? Mnatel wrod gmeas are fun.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jun 2011, 18:58
Что? Я не понимаю. Русского! **

(Pronuounced "Chto?  Ya ne ponymaioo. Russkova!")


** "What?  I don't understand.  Speak Russian!"
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 08 Jun 2011, 19:04
Or mbyae you can udnrstnaed tihs? Mnatel wrod gmeas are fun.

Just lo song as you gon't det your mucking words fuddled.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Jun 2011, 19:12
Les Paul's 94 birthday today, so does anyone think we'll be seeing a subtle reference in today's comic?

Aslo, I rlelay slohud be aelsep rgiht now sineeg as it is tehre in the mnrniog. And trhee is a ckoioe for aonnye who can tslrntaae tsehe snteneces.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Reutan on 08 Jun 2011, 20:10
Les Paul's 94 birthday today, so does anyone think we'll be seeing a subtle reference in today's comic?

Aslo, I rlelay slohud be aelsep rgiht now sineeg as it is tehre in the mnrniog. And trhee is a ckoioe for aonnye who can tslrntaae tsehe snteneces.

Bummer that it's three, but I would like a cookie! Anyone else think she's channeling Fluttershy atm, though?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 08 Jun 2011, 21:18
Les Paul's 94 birthday today, so does anyone think we'll be seeing a subtle reference in today's comic?

Have you seen google's front page today?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Jun 2011, 21:58
Awwww, Faye's cute when she cabnt cay sertayn worms
What are you saying?  I don't umbersdanb...

WIN.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Jun 2011, 22:03
Les Paul's 94 birthday today, so does anyone think we'll be seeing a subtle reference in today's comic?

Have you seen google's front page today?
I love it! All of a sudden, I miss living in Waukesha.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jun 2011, 22:24
Les Paul's 94 birthday today, so does anyone think we'll be seeing a subtle reference in today's comic?

Have you seen google's front page today?


More to the point, have you heard  it?

Seems there's a record button, too...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 08 Jun 2011, 23:38
More to the point, have you heard  it?

Seems there's a record button, too...

Does it do anything other than glow a pretty red when you click it?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Skewbrow on 09 Jun 2011, 00:41
I couldn't get it to `record' anything. Actually the on/off red button looks suspiciously similar to the button at the right end of Google's "insert-box" (dunnowhaddayas'posedtocallit). Clicking that will give you a pic of a qwerty-keyboard, so I assume that it is there to help people doing a google search with a cell phone, and might have problems typing fast without.

Edit: Slingstone, thanks for the explanation. Didn't work for me, though.  :-( Clicking the link you gave didn't start a playback or anything either. Hmm. I'm adblocking a lot of stuff from Google, probably their cookies also. May be that explains it?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: slingstone on 09 Jun 2011, 01:03
I couldn't get it to `record' anything. Actually the on/off red button looks suspiciously similar to the button at the right end of Google's "insert-box" (dunnowhaddayas'posedtocallit). Clicking that will give you a pic of a qwerty-keyboard, so I assume that it is there to help people doing a google search with a cell phone, and might have problems typing fast without.

No, after pressing the record button, it will record whatever tune or nonsense you play on the strings/logo.  If there is a long enough pause, it will assume you're done, save, and spit out a url for you to play it back.

here's one of mine to show you: http://goo.gl/doodle/i21B (http://goo.gl/doodle/i21B)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jun 2011, 02:15
OMG ROTFL  :-D

Todays comic is absolutely awesome !
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Schmorgluck on 09 Jun 2011, 02:29
Can't say this is totally unexpected... I feel for Dora, she hasn't significantly worked on her issues yet, and got already two people willing to court her.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: CompSarge on 09 Jun 2011, 02:31
Gah! Ninja'd!

Interesting possibilities here. Either a) Jim's playing the field (Don't do it!) or b) we might be seeing a Secret Bakery of Doom merger in the future.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 09 Jun 2011, 02:34
A merger will be hard if Tai murders Jim.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 02:35
I would allow that relationship only if Jim shaves that ugly as hell... thing on his chin.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Boomslang on 09 Jun 2011, 02:39
Part of me wants to see Dora say yes. But that part of me also feeds off of drama and angst.

Really though, the repercussions of this could be significant. Dora is not in a good state, and she clearly isn't naturally attracted to Jim like she was with Marten. If she takes it badly, then an entire house of cards might come crashing down. I can't really imagine QC without coffee of doom, but I've always had the impression it's an apocalypse waiting to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheBiscuit on 09 Jun 2011, 02:40
I suspect Jim will be out of luck. He's a somewhat charming fellow, but I doubt Dora is looking for a relationship now, and if she was something tells me an older man would never be her choice. She considers herself young at heart, and while Jim apparently sees maturity as sexy, Dora appears not to.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: VonKleist on 09 Jun 2011, 02:40
Hah.

Saw that coming from miles away :D

Here, I´ll do an ASCII-sketch of the 4. panel, which is my favorite today

^_^    ^_^


hahahahahah
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: keikun496 on 09 Jun 2011, 02:41
slowness, but I doubt this is going to get anywhere. Dora still needs to work out her issues.

PS, Raven's tattoo and immediately though hime. Seems like something Raven would get.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 09 Jun 2011, 02:53
Part of me wants to see Dora say yes. But that part of me also feeds off of drama and angst.

Really though, the repercussions of this could be significant. Dora is not in a good state, and she clearly isn't naturally attracted to Jim like she was with Marten. If she takes it badly, then an entire house of cards might come crashing down. I can't really imagine QC without coffee of doom, but I've always had the impression it's an apocalypse waiting to happen.

I have pointed it out before, but I feel like doing it again.

Dora can crash and burn without neither CoD nor herself being history.

I know this from experience - I have just gotten through the first year of five in my studies for a Master in Engineering, with a substantial depression. It's perfectly possible to work (albeit slowly) 10 hours a day, cry 7 hours and sleep 6 hours. Not good at all, not easy, but you can get through a mental breakdown without everything around you also falling down. Of course, when there is helpful friends around it does help. And I don't exactly feel Dora is short on those, unlike me.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 09 Jun 2011, 02:54
But she still loves Marten! But Jim is pursuing her like a man! But Marten loves her! But Jim has hair of SILVER! But she still has issues! But he can bake!

WHAT TO DO?!?!??!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 09 Jun 2011, 03:03
Love triangle!-ish. I'm not sure if this is the unwelcome sort of speculation, but IF Dora were to go into a relationship right now, who would be a better match for her? Tai is pretty carefree, assertive and has known Dora for a while (also girl-on-girl fyeah), but Jim is a fellow entrepreneur and may handle issues in a more mature way than Marten did (I'm making this assumption because he looks old).

Part of me wants to see Dora say yes. But that part of me also feeds off of drama and angst.

Really though, the repercussions of this could be significant. Dora is not in a good state, and she clearly isn't naturally attracted to Jim like she was with Marten. If she takes it badly, then an entire house of cards might come crashing down. I can't really imagine QC without coffee of doom, but I've always had the impression it's an apocalypse waiting to happen.

As much as I agree that Dora has issues, I don't think she's constantly on the verge of psychosis. Her break-up with Marten had no effect on her business other than the loss of one customer and I don't think a guy asking her out will tip the boat. That's not really what her issues were about anyway, was it?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 03:14
I'm not sure if this is the unwelcome sort of speculation,

As Jeph has set up two current possibilities for Dora, he can hardly expect us not to discuss the matter to some extent.  Just keep it sensible.  Of course, we'll let you know soon enough if we consider the speculation gets out of bounds.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 09 Jun 2011, 03:17
I would allow that relationship only if Jim shaves that ugly as hell... thing on his chin.
Yeah, and the perma-stubble too. If I were Dora, my dirty-old-man alarm would be ringing. The parallel expressions until we get to the last panel punchline made me giggle.

Jim is a fellow entrepreneur and may handle issues in a more mature way than Marten did (I'm making this assumption because he looks old).
What? He's packing a whole napsack of issues from his failed (N.B. failed) marriage and divorce. And yeah, I'd guess he has 15-20 years on Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 03:19
One can learn from a failed marriage, you know.

(How do I know?  Guess...)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 03:22
One can learn from a failed marriage, you know.

(How do I know?  Guess...)

You aren't trying to hook up with women 15 years or more your junior, though, right?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jun 2011, 03:25
OMG ROTFL  :-D

Todays comic is absolutely awesome !

Wait .. that wasnt even the comic of today ! I forgot to check QC yesterday ! Oh. My. God !!!

Todays comic ... cant make my mind up about it, yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 03:28
You aren't trying to hook up with women 15 years or more your junior, though, right?

True - my second wife is only eight years my junior :evil:

(39 vs 47 was not such a big issue, though we had serious discussions about it, mainly concerned with the difference in our life expectancy.)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jun 2011, 03:28
And yeah, I'd guess he has 15-20 years on Dora.
Uh-hu.

Sorry, I cant see it.

Its just you cant tell age in QC at all, really.

At the moment I root for Tai. She's funny and stuff. But we'll see.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 09 Jun 2011, 03:33
What if Tai is actually his daughter? The math checks out!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 09 Jun 2011, 03:37
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.

Dora should be 28 or 29, IIRC, and I think she wouldn't hook up with someone as much as a year older than herself - you know, because they would be as old as her brother...

EDIT: In strip 144 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=144) she's 26, and that is supposedly not more than two years ago. So she should be 27 or 28.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: VonKleist on 09 Jun 2011, 03:49
you know, because they would be as old as her brother...

I fail to see your point O.o

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheBiscuit on 09 Jun 2011, 03:51
At the moment I root for Tai. She's funny and stuff. But we'll see.
She is... but then she is also a deeply amoral and selfish person. Were I in Marten's position I would see her as a fun co-worker, but not as any kind of potential friend. Since I'm a naturally cautious person, after getting to know her I would do everything possible to prevent her meeting any of my friends. She is drama waiting to happen.

I don't exactly dislike Tai, but I wouldn't be hugely enthusiastic about her being around anyone I cared about. Certainly not if she was likely to find them attractive, and even more so if that person was in any way emotionally vulnerable.

Also: This comic needs more Marigold. The comic is back to being decent again, has been for a while actually... but Marigold is essential. Pretty much the main character I look forward to reading about.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Doctor Online on 09 Jun 2011, 04:00
you know, because they would be as old as her brother...

Good to know I'm not the only one who thinks like that. Maybe not completely on my level, but recognizes that there are some of us that just don't feel comfortable with the age gaps. While some say love knows no numbers... I say "Ugh". But of course, that's just me. I don't treat older men like they're total creepers when they hit on me, unless they're obviously being a creeper. I take it as a compliment, but the idea of even entertaining the thought of dating an older man? Just no.

I come from a family where my mom is 15 years older than my brother, my brother is 7 years older than me, my dad outright refuses to set foot in a strip club or anything of the sort "because they're the same age as my daughter." I'm honestly repulsed by the "cougar" fad, and same goes for men with way younger women. I never would date a guy my brothers age either. This is just my own personal preference though.

I know there may be some that don't agree with me, I'm not looking to argue over the matter. It's all in personal preference. =P


Where I was getting at is, maybe, just maybe, Dora has similar feelings on the matter. It's never been discussed, but the expressions on her face whenever Jim comes around speaks for the lack of words. I'm reading her expressions as "...this is very uncomfortable." but I could be wrong.

*Edit- 2 new posts separating the post I was responding to. Trying to not cause confusion.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 09 Jun 2011, 04:34
Jim: Resist urge to ask Dora out.

You fail to resist the urge.

The audience is shocked at your forward manner!


Dora: Consider.

On the one hand, you do not know this man very well, and you just got out of a serious relationship!

On the other hand, he looks like Littlefinger from Game of Thrones, only not as much of a douche!

Plus, as has been stated, he can bake.

This is a conundrum for the ages.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 09 Jun 2011, 05:13
Your signature made a nice punchline to your post.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 05:26
And yeah, I'd guess he has 15-20 years on Dora.
Uh-hu.

Sorry, I cant see it.

Its just you cant tell age in QC at all, really.

It's the white hair, I'd wager. Mainly because everyone we've seen in-comic with white hair has actually been that much older than people that still have color in their hair.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2011, 05:28
I can't see him making that big a deal about it if Dora politely rejects him, and this not affecting their arrangement.  Still, with a semi-twist like this, I'm surprised it's not a Friday strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 09 Jun 2011, 05:33
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.

One can learn from a failed marriage, you know.
I'm sure that is true. Just as one can fill an inside straight. :)   So far the only lesson we've seen Jim learn is "Hire a better lawyer".
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: rje on 09 Jun 2011, 05:34
Wow I actually...wasn't expecting that. But I like being surprised, so yay!
And I have to admit, when I was under 25 I would never have gone out with anyone more than five years older than me, and that was pushing it, but now that I'm 31 I look at the matter a little differently, so idk, it doesnt strike me as ew that he's asking her out. Plus I kinda dig the silver sideburns/full color hair look >u> Distinguished, I think the word is.

I am almost positive Dora's gonna say no but she could say yes just to have some fun. (Not that kind of fun necessarily ahaha) .. you don't have to go out with anyone to become an item with them, and I bet Jim could afford some fancy dates and nice trips .. |D  As long as she was up front like 'I'm not looking for anything serious at all' cos I doubt he is either.
But nahhh I don't think she's ready to even date casually atm.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 05:46
Les Paul's 94 birthday today, so does anyone think we'll be seeing a subtle reference in today's comic?
Have you seen google's front page today?

No, and I certainly didn't play a pseudo-smoke on the water riff for about half an hour... >_>, <_<, >_>.....

Anyway, today's comic. Someone better make sure that Jim and Tai are never left in the same room alone, or there'll be a murder.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Jun 2011, 05:48
I think it's highly unlikely, although how long is it since she broke up with Marten?

That said... she does find gray hair potentially hot: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1515
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Emperor Norton on 09 Jun 2011, 05:56
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.

I had a teacher in high school who was about 36 and he had almost completely grey hair. My wife is also getting grey hair and she is only 26.

As for the difference in age thing, I think it changes more the older you get. I'm pretty inured to it myself (my dad is nearly 20 years older than my mom), but the thing is... a 5-7 year difference really isn't all that much in your late 20s/early 30s. Yeah, maybe 18 and 25 sounds kind of skeevy to some people, but does 29 and 36? How about 32 and 39?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Jun 2011, 06:19
There's always the good old age/2+7 formula.

So, reversing it... if Dora's 26:

26 - 7 = 19 * 2 = 38

And if she's 28:

28 - 7 = 21 * 2 = 42
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Nornin on 09 Jun 2011, 06:32
I suspect Jim will be out of luck. He's a somewhat charming fellow, but I doubt Dora is looking for a relationship now, and if she was something tells me an older man would never be her choice. She considers herself young at heart, and while Jim apparently sees maturity as sexy, Dora appears not to.
I have the totally oposite oppinion.
I think she is really into older guys, someone to protect her and soothe her broken ego.
But I don't think it would last.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Nornin on 09 Jun 2011, 06:40
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.
I don't know if I should kick you or slap you  :-P

I'm only 34 and even though my temples are not silver (and never will be since I'm a girl) I have found the occasional gray hair!
A friend of mine is 36 and his temples are almost totally silver!

I'd say Jim was 38-42 and if Dora is 26(7) he is 12-16 years older than she is.
I would go for it if I was Dora  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: stoutfiles on 09 Jun 2011, 06:53
Jim: Successful business owner in his late 30s / early 40s.  Ambitious, knows what he wants in life.

Marten: Hipster townie who works at library and hangs out at coffee shops.  Mid 20's? Has no ambition to do anything else with his life besides the occasional daydream.

Hmm, which one would be better for Dora? Or for any girl?

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 07:00
There's always the good old age/2+7 formula.
So, reversing it... if Dora's 26:
26 - 7 = 19 * 2 = 38
And if she's 28:
28 - 7 = 21 * 2 = 42

I call BOMDAS on your maths. In fact looking at the order you've done it, I can hear my old maths teacher crying in the distance.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: kent_eh on 09 Jun 2011, 07:06
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.

My cousin was full-on grey by the time he was 30. We're talking "Man from Glad" white.

It happens.
Look at Steve Martin or Leslie Neilson. Fully grey quite early in life.

Also, I've lived the experience that prolonged periods of heavy stress *can* bring on some grey prematurely.

That said, I don't think this will go anywhere. Maybe "just friends", but probably she'll pull out the "just ended...not ready to ... "
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 07:13
There's always the good old age/2+7 formula.
So, reversing it... if Dora's 26:
26 - 7 = 19 * 2 = 38
And if she's 28:
28 - 7 = 21 * 2 = 42

I call BOMDAS on your maths. In fact looking at the order you've done it, I can hear my old maths teacher crying in the distance.

Explain that to me, because from the way I see it... I don't see how the "reverse formula" is bad.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: mike837go on 09 Jun 2011, 07:14
"BOMDAS"?

Looked it up........

Oh, we didn't have an acronym for that when I was in school.

We just followed the rules.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: grimeyville on 09 Jun 2011, 07:14
We have a very nice dichotomy growing.

On Marten's side, he's... Trying to find something, anything, consolation. Yet... He isn't. It's like, he was trying to buddy up with Padma with no good result to that one.

He's tried to look for consolation, and well... He's been flying about like a drunken Albatross. His mom said he was strong enough to deal basically, and well, I guess we can say he's trying to be better about this, or will try to be better after considering what Padme and Renee have said.

Then again, on Dora's side... People want her, which just speaks volumes. I hope she shuts down everyone honestly, because well... From just my experience, people in therapy stop going when they get relationships. As though that may fix everything some how, and then it might just make things work if the significant other doesn't know about it and... We'll have the Marten/Dora break-up 2.0.

I actually hope Dora and Tai get together, just so Tai can experience what it's like to date Dora first hand.

Also hopeful that Tai is Jim's daughter. <_< That'd be... Awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 07:17
Explain that to me, because from the way I see it... I don't see how the "reverse formula" is bad.
BOMDAS - Brackets of Mulitplication, Division, Adding, Subtraction. Thats the order you're taught to work out mathematical forumla.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 07:21
I knwo that but the formula he wrote is in reverse, therefore he must subtract 7 first.

Original forumla:
Old age/ 2 +7  
We take 50 as an example:

50 / 2 = 25 => 25+7 = 32

What  bhtooefr wrote is the following.. the reverse forumla from 32 to 50
 32 - 7 = 25 => 25*2 = 50




...Why is it so hard to write forumla...forumbleh.. ARRRRGH FORMULA
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 07:23
EDIT: Spent another five seconds thinking about it and here you go.

(2 * Younger Age) - 7 = Maximum age you can date without it being creepy.

So if Dora is 26, then 45 is the oldest she can date if you go by that dumb formula that we've just shown is broken, because a 26 year old dating a 45 year old is creepy as hell.

EDIT #2: Hell, I'm 30 and would feel weird about dating a 26 year old. 28 would only be slightly better because by then it is safe to assume that she'd be done with college stuff too and actually finished growing up (unlike an unbelievable number of people in their 20s that think it is still cool to go to bars that knowingly serve underage kids).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 07:27
Hey Tiogyr, the formula you wrote is not the same as the one I make, I can go from 50 to 32 with the original formula but with yours I can't go from 32 to 50

The one I wrote that was the reverse of the old age formula is (younger age -7) * 2

Where I was getting at is, maybe, just maybe, Dora has similar feelings on the matter. It's never been discussed, but the expressions on her face whenever Jim comes around speaks for the lack of words. I'm reading her expressions as "...this is very uncomfortable." but I could be wrong.

Even if she had te thought "...this is very uncomfortable"... That doesn't need to have anything to do with his age. That situation can still be awkward with a person of the same age just staring at you in silence.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Elysiana on 09 Jun 2011, 07:39
First, BOMDAS/BODMAS is brackets, orders (exponents), division/multiplication, addition/subtraction (I have no idea what "brackets of multiplication" would be). Also known as PEMDAS and several other things. But the "lowest acceptable dating age" formula has always been half your age plus 7. Nobody has ever claimed that it's a hard and fast rule, it's just an easy way to remember to keep things in perspective.

Second, Dora just entered into a business relationship with Jim. I reeeeally feel uncomfortable with the notion of her entering into a romantic one with him too at this point. It just seems unwise. Also Dora is so cute when she's caught off-guard. I chuckled.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 07:42
I think everybody can agree that the formula doesn't really work well... The discussion was just about math :P
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Spectreofwar on 09 Jun 2011, 07:43
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.

I was "rocking" (through much ridicule) an entire head of silver by age 14. Completely naturally.

It's very possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 07:52
A child I knew was told off for going to school with her hair dyed blue.  When she asked why, she was told "it's un-natural".  So then she dyed it silver, and when called into the head's office, she just looked pointedly at the head's hair... and was sent away.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Jun 2011, 07:56
(younger age * 2) - 7 fails.

The formula for minimum age of a partner, in RPN to remove ALL ambiguity is:

Your_age 2 / 7 +

So, formula for maximum age would be:

Your_age 7 - 2 *

(Then again, the formula tends to be applied to older man, younger woman, exclusively.)

Still, there are situations in which it can produce creepy results (past 30, the spread gets quite wide), and the formula completely fails below 14, as, for a 13 year old, it says that the youngest you can date is 13.5, but the oldest you can date is 12 (then again, the formula could be saying, "don't date at all if you're under 14", which is probably quite sound advice). But, during high school years through the 20s, it generally works fairly well, at least in the original intent, and beyond that, it sets a fairly good absolute maximum line for social acceptability of older man, younger woman.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 07:56
I think everybody can agree that the formula doesn't really work well... The discussion was just about math :P

But you have to admit that BOMDAS is just funnier than SADMOB :roll:

Back on topic. I don't really see a problem with people going out with someone older/younger than they are, when I first met my ex, she was going out with a guy 12 years older than her (18/30). When we went out, there was just a year between us.. But its not something I grew up with though, my parents were born within 5 months of each, my grandparents a week, my uncles are married to women the same age as them, so its just something I don't have much experience with. But by the same token, it doesn't bother me. The only thing that should matter is that two people connect in a way that is important to them and to them alone.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Cybit on 09 Jun 2011, 07:57
So, are we taking bets on him asking her to dinner for something other then romance, for sheer "mess with everyone hilarity?"  (IE, he wants to talk about the deal they have, and is getting horribly misinterpreted)

Actually, seeing that tomorrow is Friday, I suspect a yes from Dora.  Or better yet, Dora takes him to Tai's party. :D  
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 07:58
Hey Tiogyr, the formula you wrote is not the same as the one I make, I can go from 50 to 32 with the original formula but with yours I can't go from 32 to 50

The one I wrote that was the reverse of the old age formula is (younger age -7) * 2

That is because the original formula cannot be reversed while sticking to that BOMDAS rule, which was the point.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 09 Jun 2011, 08:00
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.

One can learn from a failed marriage, you know.
I'm sure that is true. Just as one can fill an inside straight. :)   So far the only lesson we've seen Jim learn is "Hire a better lawyer".

I was mostly grey by the time I hit 40 - as was Dad before me.  My Grandpa (mother's side) was actually red with badger streaks over his ears when he passed at 88 - and the streaks were fairly new, about 10 years old at most.  Hair colour is really genetically dependant.

And that last lesson is an important one to learn in a generic sense - "Don't cheap out on the important things."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Jun 2011, 08:02
There is another way to represent it, though, that works for PEMDAS/BOMDAS/whatever mnemonic you use.

x / 2 + 7 = y

x = Your age
Solve for y

That's the normal formula.

So, reversing it without changing the formula at all would be...

y = Your age
Solve for x

But, I was properly accounting for PEMDAS when I reversed it, by adding virtual parentheses.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 08:04
Hair colour is really genetically dependant.

But still plenty variable.  I've been gray for 15 years, and my hair's getting on the thin side; but my brother, who is 6 years older, still has his full colour and bushy hair.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 08:10
Hair colour is really genetically dependant.

Those chemicals in the little bottles in the hair section might disagree with you :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 08:18
Hhahahah totally, I had red hair back when I was very little until I was like 12 but look at my avatar... That's not red.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 08:19
There is another way to represent it, though, that works for PEMDAS/BOMDAS/whatever mnemonic you use.

x / 2 + 7 = y

x = Your age
Solve for y

That's the normal formula.

So, reversing it without changing the formula at all would be...

y = Your age
Solve for x

But, I was properly accounting for PEMDAS when I reversed it, by adding virtual parentheses.

I'd like to see you show you're work, because going by that and sticking to the rules you go like this:

x / 2 + 7 = y

Which is (x/2) + 7 = y according to the rules.

So you end up with something looking like ((x/2)*2) + 7 - 7 = (y*2) - 7 when trying to get it down to something you can use to solve for X if you have Y.

Then x + 7 - 7 = (y*2) - 7

Then you get x = (y*2) - 7

Because, according to those rules, you cannot move the parenthesis away so that the addition/subtraction is done before the multiplication/division.

But, as has been shown, the original formula doesn't work when you try to rearrange it to solve in the other direction, so the formula itself is screwed up.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 08:28
My problem is that I don't understand why you have to stick with that rule while making a reverse formula.
This is the way I think:

x/2 +7 = y

Ok we pretend that it is like this:
(x/2) +7 = y

So... to get x = [incert something here] I do this:

(x/2) +7 -7 = y - 7
(x/2) = (y-7)
(x/2) *2 = (y-7) * 2
x = (y-7) * 2

 :?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 08:30
Why is this so hard?  You can just take the original formula and rearrange it to do the opposite calculation, like so:

y = x/2 + 7
y - 7 = x/2
(y - 7)*2 = x

Nothing more complicated is required.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 08:33
Why is this so hard?  You can just take the original formula and rearrange it to do the opposite calculation, like so:

y = x/2 + 7
y - 7 = x/2
(y - 7)*2 = x

Nothing more complicated is required.

That is exactly what was done originally, then we got this post:

There's always the good old age/2+7 formula.
So, reversing it... if Dora's 26:
26 - 7 = 19 * 2 = 38
And if she's 28:
28 - 7 = 21 * 2 = 42

I call BOMDAS on your maths. In fact looking at the order you've done it, I can hear my old maths teacher crying in the distance.

I was just pointing out that if you're requiring BOMDAS with no exceptions, ever, the formula cannot be reversed.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 08:35
Math and internet is not a good combination for me. Same with that awful 9 or 1 question... I hate that question with all my heart.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 08:36
Well, thats another discussion I've derailed. My job is done for the day.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Elysiana on 09 Jun 2011, 08:50
I don't get what's wrong with Paul's/Mr. Doctor's equation... (y-7)*2=x looks correct to me. Brackets first, multiplication next. I'm not sure why PEMDAS is even being brought into this, that's written correctly isn't it?

Granted, it's been ummm over 12 years since I've been in a math class, but having tested into Calc II, I'd like to think I still have SOME sort of grasp on it....
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Jun 2011, 08:53
Math talk makes me feel dumber than usual  :-(

Also, god I hope Dora says no.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Near Lurker on 09 Jun 2011, 08:58
It's probably about the same age difference as with Tai, and unlike her, they're at about the same stage of their lives.  Also, at least until we see evidence to the contrary, he seems significantly less... flighty, which is not a quality that will mesh well with Dora's personality...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 09:00
I actually think it would do Dora some good to date Jim.

Not go balls out crazy and move in with him or anything, but dating wouldn't be a bad thing either.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 09 Jun 2011, 09:11
I just got a picture in my head of Raven and Hanners working out these equations on the specials board, maybe while Jim looks on in bemusement and Dora wears her Death Pout.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 09:11
But is Dora completely over her issues? Thats the real point. In physical therapy you never push yourself before you're ready, you end up doing more damage. Its the same here. Is Dora ready to go out with someone? Or is she going to start seeing Jim as every other guy she has gone out with? Is she going to do the same thing with Jim that she did with Marten, to start projecting her issues on him?

As it is, no, I don't think Dora should go out with Jim, even if it is just dinner. She isn't ready for even that yet, in my opinion.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Jun 2011, 09:12
I don't get what's wrong with Paul's/Mr. Doctor's equation... (y-7)*2=x looks correct to me. Brackets first, multiplication next. I'm not sure why PEMDAS is even being brought into this, that's written correctly isn't it?

Granted, it's been ummm over 12 years since I've been in a math class, but having tested into Calc II, I'd like to think I still have SOME sort of grasp on it....
The people that brought PEMDAS into this, and believe that you can't move the parentheses around to make the equation work in reverse order clearly failed algebra.

I'm not trying to SADMEP the equation, I'm solving for the input variable, and I already have the output variable, so I need to work the entire equation in reverse - subtract 7 FIRST (instead of adding 7 last), and then divide by 2 (instead of multiplying by 2 first).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 09 Jun 2011, 09:14
I just got a picture in my head of Raven and Hanners working out these equations on the specials board, maybe while Jim looks on in bemusement and Dora wears her Death Pout.

Ha!  Totally.  That would be awesome.

What if suddenly...Jim is Hannerdad?

I'm not the first to suggest this, am I?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 09:20
Where would a famous inventor find time to run a bakery, and why would he?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 09:23
Where would a famous inventor find time to run a bakery, and why would he?

Probably between inventing bionic laser enhancements and a Clinton seeking missle. As for why? I suppose everyone likes the smell of freshly baked bread in the morning.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 09 Jun 2011, 09:35
And because baking is science for hungry people!!!


HAD TO
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 09 Jun 2011, 09:37
But is Dora completely over her issues? Thats the real point. In physical therapy you never push yourself before you're ready, you end up doing more damage. Its the same here. Is Dora ready to go out with someone? Or is she going to start seeing Jim as every other guy she has gone out with? Is she going to do the same thing with Jim that she did with Marten, to start projecting her issues on him?

As it is, no, I don't think Dora should go out with Jim, even if it is just dinner. She isn't ready for even that yet, in my opinion.

Is anyone with psychological issues ever really over them, or do they simply learn how to cope with them? 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 09:38
But is Dora completely over her issues? Thats the real point. In physical therapy you never push yourself before you're ready, you end up doing more damage. Its the same here. Is Dora ready to go out with someone? Or is she going to start seeing Jim as every other guy she has gone out with? Is she going to do the same thing with Jim that she did with Marten, to start projecting her issues on him?

As it is, no, I don't think Dora should go out with Jim, even if it is just dinner. She isn't ready for even that yet, in my opinion.

Is anyone with psychological issues ever really over them, or do they simply learn how to cope with them? 

Well, at least be able to deal with them in a rational manner then.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Elysiana on 09 Jun 2011, 09:43
I still say that even barring the age difference and psychological issues Dora has floating around.... dating a newly-forged business partner is a bad idea.

If it weren't for that, I'd say it would be really good for her to go. She needs to see that even though she kind of screwed up, she's not suddenly completely worthless. She's arguably the most mature of the bunch (or likes to believe she is) so I don't even see the age difference as being that crucial.

As it stands... don't shit where you eat, especially when you have a contract.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Jun 2011, 09:46
But is Dora completely over her issues? Thats the real point. In physical therapy you never push yourself before you're ready, you end up doing more damage. Its the same here. Is Dora ready to go out with someone? Or is she going to start seeing Jim as every other guy she has gone out with? Is she going to do the same thing with Jim that she did with Marten, to start projecting her issues on him?

As it is, no, I don't think Dora should go out with Jim, even if it is just dinner. She isn't ready for even that yet, in my opinion.

I completely agree. Dora needs to spend more time figuring out what she really wants (and needs) before she even casually dates someone else. And even if she were ready, Jim?? I don't think a significantly older divorcee would be terribly good for her. I don't know. I'm kinda on the fence concerning Jim.  :|

EDIT: 4 New Replies. Goddammit
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 09 Jun 2011, 09:57
Where would a famous inventor find time to run a bakery, and why would he?

An army of robot hamster bakers handle things. HannerDadLab is in the sub-basement, with a wormhole leading to Ed Bronchovsky's place over in Greenfield. A quantum tunnelling feedback effect led to the Great Oven Explosion  of '98.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Jun 2011, 10:45
What are the semiotics (do I mean "semantics"?) of a dinner invitation in that culture?

When I moved out where I am now I was taken aback to find that asking for a dinner date got almost the same reactions I would have imagined getting from "Drop your pants and spread your legs". I told one young lady that I liked her and her approach to life and that I'd be honored to take her out to dinner on Thursday, and shortly thereafter her brother showed up at my office door to tell me how "uncomfortable" he was with that. I figured out to ask women out to lunch instead.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 10:50
Lunch is generally a better first date idea anyway, but damn, how old was she and how old were you? Because something about that story is fishy no matter where you're from.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jun 2011, 10:51
Yes, it does, if we guess Jim is at least 40 years old - but I don't. I'm guessing 35.
He has silver temples... I don't know many under-40s, or even under-45s who are rocking those. I'm sure it's possible, but it's not the way to bet.

One can learn from a failed marriage, you know.
I'm sure that is true. Just as one can fill an inside straight. :)   So far the only lesson we've seen Jim learn is "Hire a better lawyer".
I think you're surprisingly judgemental about this. I know he doesnt give the impression, but we cant know for sure if the breakup was Jims fault, can we ? Sometimes it IS the fault of only one of the parties that a marriage fails. Yeah I know its rather rare and unlikely, but "in dubito pro reo" - as long as proved otherwise, we have to consider people innocent, dont we ?


I just got a picture in my head of Raven and Hanners working out these equations on the specials board, maybe while Jim looks on in bemusement and Dora wears her Death Pout.
I cant picture either of them doing such a thing. They're both too intelligent.



(y-7)*2=x looks correct to me.
Except its extremely dumb.

For example, a 13 year old can only date a 12 year old, who in turn can only date a 10 year old, who in turn ... LOL. And yes, some people start dating with 13 already. Quite a lot of girls do. Often older boys, not boys of their age, who are in general not ready yet.

Or: a 16 year old can only date a 18 year old. Now what the ... ??? And a 18 year old may only date a 22 year old. Where the heck do you live ???

However, a 36 year old may date a 58 year old. Which IMHO is a too large age difference in most cases. More than 16 years maximum is way too extreme for many people.

And for the record, the constellation found to be the most happy couples on average is age of woman + 6 = age of man. Dont let statistics rule your love life, though.



Math talk makes me feel dumber than usual  :-(
Even dumb math talk ? All these rules what age difference is appropiate are absurd in my ears.

The only real question is if both parties are happy in a relationship. Absolutely nothing else.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Jun 2011, 10:58
26 and 25 or so. I thought it was weird too.

Dora is one year younger than Sven, who told the Pugnacious Peach recently he was 28.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Elysiana on 09 Jun 2011, 11:02
Snubnose - surely you don't think the equation is meant to be taken seriously... It was most likely made up by college kids, for college kids.

I'm not sure where you're getting this "may only date an X-year-old" idea. The "half your age plus 7" equation is meant to be the youngest person you should date... the "your age minus seven times two" equation is supposed to be the oldest you should date.

But again, the whole thing has always been tongue-in-cheek so it's pretty much moot anyway. Take it with a grain of salt.

Here's a handy chart I found! Just because I like graphs:
(http://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Screen-shot-2010-05-17-at-12.07.12-PM.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 11:18
I love the way the chart goes up to 125 years. I think at that stage its more likely that you'd be amazed if you woke up in the morning. :laugh:

Ah, but it did make me laugh. Well done on finding it Elysiana.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 09 Jun 2011, 11:25
Yeah, the whole thing with the formula was that it was to be used to determine the limits, not the exact age difference you should shoot for.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/dating_pools.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Jun 2011, 11:57
Even dumb math talk ? All these rules what age difference is appropiate are absurd in my ears.

The discussion had nothing to do with the rule itself, just plain math :P
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Near Lurker on 09 Jun 2011, 12:14
It works until around forty, but then it starts to break down; I mean, if you see a seventy-year-old dating a forty-something, the first thought to go through your head is probably about the same as if you saw one dating a twenty-something.  And the social unacceptability of a forty-year-old dating a twenty-year-old and a twenty-five-year-old dating a sixteen-year-old aren't quite the same.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 09 Jun 2011, 12:35
Well, they do say you can use maths to prove anything

Except why the Tea Party exists.   :-D



This will get more interesting when Tai finally hits on Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2011, 13:19
Hey, just wondering, when you guys are using the formula for the younger age (since it's not relevant for older, and the original age is odd, do you round up or down?  I always round up.  For example, 23/2+7=18.5, but I consider the youngest lass I can date without it being weird is 19.  It's interesting, because as xkcd once explained, your dating pool gets bigger and bigger, because it takes two years for you to lose one year in the low end, but in that time, you gain four on the high end.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Boomslang on 09 Jun 2011, 13:32
Huh. Jim is hitting on Dora now, Tai will hit on her friday (presumably).

Maybe what Dora needs is reassurance that she is attractive, and not just convenient?

Or, alternately, she'll feel hounded by all the people trying to get in her pants and just shut down socially. I really have no idea which is more likely.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 09 Jun 2011, 14:09
Well, they do say you can use maths to prove anything

Except why the Tea Party exists.   :-D
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|



Huh. Jim is hitting on Dora now, Tai will hit on her friday (presumably).

Maybe what Dora needs is reassurance that she is attractive, and not just convenient?

Or, alternately, she'll feel hounded by all the people trying to get in her pants and just shut down socially. I really have no idea which is more likely.
Oh come on, its Dora. Dora completely shutting down socially ? Not gonna happen. She is of low self esteem in relationships, but she is a strong person !
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2011, 14:21
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|
There are plenty of reasons for that, none of which are as logical as maths :(
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 09 Jun 2011, 14:48
<snip>

As it stands... don't shit where you eat, especially when you have a contract.

If they do end up dating but then break up, it's not like Jim would have to personally deliver the baked goods.  In fact, I'd say the only reason he did is so that he could ask Dora out.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Jun 2011, 14:52
Is anyone with psychological issues ever really over them, or do they simply learn how to cope with them? 
Well, at least be able to deal with them in a rational manner then.
Or obtain the appropriate medication for them.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 14:53
Is anyone with psychological issues ever really over them, or do they simply learn how to cope with them? 
Well, at least be able to deal with them in a rational manner then.
Or obtain the appropriate medication for them.
Or get to a 1930s sanitarium and jump onto the old electroshock table.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2011, 16:06
In fact, I'd say the only reason he did is so that he could ask Dora out.
No, this isn't the same visit as him dropping the beans off.  He just said he dropped in to "see how things are going".

Also, I know there's the "they look the same lulz", but Dora's "surprised face" looks eerily like Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Jun 2011, 16:19
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|

Actually, it's just the news that they're taking over.  The Illuminati are still running everything  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Delator on 09 Jun 2011, 16:40
I still say that even barring the age difference and psychological issues Dora has floating around.... dating a newly-forged business partner is a bad idea.

I'd have to agree with that one.

Quote
If it weren't for that, I'd say it would be really good for her to go.

...and that one as well.

I really like this twist, cause it's the first in a while where I'm interested to see either result.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Jun 2011, 16:42
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|

Actually, it's just the news that they're taking over.  The Illuminati are still running everything  :wink:

I'd prefer the Illuminati.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 09 Jun 2011, 16:44
Well, they do say you can use maths to prove anything

Except why the Tea Party exists.   :-D
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|

If that is the case, I have one word for ya

Emigrate!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2011, 16:56
Well, they do say you can use maths to prove anything

Except why the Tea Party exists.   :-D
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|

If that is the case, I have one word for ya

Emigrate!
If only it were that easy. (http://xkcd.com/180/)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: 0kamisama on 09 Jun 2011, 18:33
Well, they do say you can use maths to prove anything

Except why the Tea Party exists.   :-D
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|

If that is the case, I have one word for ya

Emigrate!
If only it were that easy. (http://xkcd.com/180/)
Actually, it is pretty easy when you think about it. Anywhere else, you have a distinct opportunity for others to see and interact with a Yank, and see what makes them tick. What employer wouldn't want to say that they have 'American contacts' in their business?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Doctor Online on 09 Jun 2011, 18:34
I've said for years, I'm moving to Australia. Always had big plans to move there, and make Kangaroo boxing a sport. If it isn't a sport already. Aussie's help me out here.

In all honesty, I've had family fight for America.. patriotism runs deep in my family. But over the past decade of events, I'm somewhat ashamed to be an American. I do not like what my government is doing, and it hurts me to see people in other countries make generalizations of Americans based off of what my government does, or what some idiot who makes it onto the media says. Of course I don't have to worry about the people here assuming that we're all the same, but I've seen and heard it in other places.


On to other, better topics!!!! Dora, you have too much to overcome before you're ready to dive back into the sea. =[ Don't do it. Jeph, the artwork, as always... is stunning. I love the expressions!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 Jun 2011, 18:46
I've said for years, I'm moving to Australia. Always had big plans to move there, and make Kangaroo boxing a sport. If it isn't a sport already. Aussie's help me out here.

Make room on the plane, we'll fly out with you.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Doctor Online on 09 Jun 2011, 19:21
Will do! The more the merrier.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Emperor Norton on 09 Jun 2011, 19:29
The irony of this is how many Australians I know who moved to the US to get the hell away from Australia.

Grass is always greener I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 09 Jun 2011, 20:08
If that is the case, I have one word for ya Emigrate!
Snubnose is German...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 09 Jun 2011, 20:32
In fact, I'd say the only reason he did is so that he could ask Dora out.
No, this isn't the same visit as him dropping the beans off.  He just said he dropped in to "see how things are going".

No, I know; I'm thinking maybe he was just working up the courage the first time, or he just took a shine to her and wanted to see her again.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2011, 20:33
Honestly, if I thought I could get a teaching without having to get another degree (I'm finishing up my Masters in December and haven't even offically taught yet, other than as a sub), then there'd really be nothing tying me to the States.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Watched Pot on 09 Jun 2011, 21:29
madness, i did two and a half years of subbing before getting my first full-time teaching job (summer vacation starts monday, whoo) and I had a good GPA from a respected teaching school, two different teach-abroad experiences, and a bunch of extracurricular possibilities. At the few interviews i got, districts were always honest with me, average of about 500:1 applicant-to-job ratio, and I applied everywhere. The job i have now is at a charter, so i get a punchline instead of a paycheck.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 09 Jun 2011, 22:18
I
In all honesty, I've had family fight for America.. patriotism runs deep in my family. But over the past decade of events, I'm somewhat ashamed to be an American. I do not like what my government is doing, and it hurts me to see people in other countries make generalizations of Americans based off of what my government does, or what some idiot who makes it onto the media says. Of course I don't have to worry about the people here assuming that we're all the same, but I've seen and heard it in other places.

I live in South Africa and I agree there are a lot of people who hate America, but no educated or rational person has ever made generalisations about Americans based off what the government does. The I know people who make generalisations don't talk about politics much or if they do, they make vague references to Bin Laden being the president of Iraq; it's more of a "WHENEVER THEY COME HERE THEY JUST THINK THERE'S LIONS EVERYWHERE THEY'RE SO FAT" kind of thing. It's because you seem richer/happier than other countries.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Jun 2011, 22:22
I'm afraid American education degrees aren't worth the toilet paper they're printed on.  I teach Ed majors in the state with most exclusive certification process there is, and they still don't get enough content to teach their way out of a paper bag.  The system is a fucking joke - the biggest truth is in the last panel of this comic (http://www.futurama-area.de/LiH/OComics/10.gif).  


Why do people think teaching is an easy job?  Wy do we fill Ed major's heads with the cotton fluff of educational theory?  Sure, you need some of it, but not the 30 credits or so these folks get.  And why do people with no love or interest in a topic want to teach it?  Summers off?  HA!  Get real... when do you think teachers get recertified?  Take those courses they need to keep their job?  Add to their meager salaries with other work?  


[pant, pant, wheeze...]

Now look, you got me started, and someone changed the topic already...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 09 Jun 2011, 23:21
Dora should not date Jim because she is not attracted to him.


That's all the reason she needs really...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Jun 2011, 23:52
There seems to be very little recognition in this discussion of that curious state between a business relationship and dating or love which is known as friendship.  It is possible that Jim simply wants to be friends, and to get to know Dora with nothing more in mind; this, of course, implies rather more maturity than we are used to around here.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Near Lurker on 10 Jun 2011, 00:23
Friends don't usually ask for a dinner date, alone, specifically, when they're not already out, much less as a dinner date with no attached occasion.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2011, 00:24
That is possible. Dora doesn't seem to be recognizing that possibility at the moment.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: VonKleist on 10 Jun 2011, 00:28
A friend of mine asked me yesterday what I thought of the zoo as a place for the 1st date with a girl.

I told him if I had learned one thing from "Sleepless In Seattle" that would be to never do anything lenghty (the zoo/dinner) for a first date because it´ll be a pain sitting through it if the person you´re dating turns out to be a jerk about midway.

So, getting drinks together seems fine with me.. in case of Dora and Jim that is.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 10 Jun 2011, 00:45
Well, they do say you can use maths to prove anything

Except why the Tea Party exists.   :-D
Pretty bold, considering that the Tea Party is taking over the USA right now ... :|

If that is the case, I have one word for ya

Emigrate!
Uh, I dont live in the US.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: guayec on 10 Jun 2011, 01:48
assfgdgdhsg

she said YES?

my brain is also twitching
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Delator on 10 Jun 2011, 01:49
Hmm...so how long will it take for this to get back around to Marten, and how will he react?

Also, Raven's face in the beat panel made me giggle.

Edit: Placeholder for my new theory-which-shall-not-be-named...Jeph, don't fail me now.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 10 Jun 2011, 01:56
Poor Tai.

Ninja'd.

Again.



Also, Raven, NOT HELPING!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: themacnut on 10 Jun 2011, 02:02
Poor Tai, she waited too long before making her move. On the other hand, I think she'll have another shot. I don't see anything coming out of Dora's date with Jim....

...on yet another hand, it would be quite the kick in the nuts to Chew Toy Marten if Dora and Jim did develop an epic May-December (or whatever) romance, so maybe Tai has missed her chance once and for all. Still, she's young, she'll bounce back, there'll be other girls etc., etc.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 10 Jun 2011, 02:07
If Dora and Jim do become a thing, will she start hanging out at tSB?

Not cool.  :|




On the other hand, I think I may know how it feels to be an Angus hater now, so there's that. :cry: :|
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 10 Jun 2011, 02:07
Raven: Inadvertently crush Tai's dearest-held hopes and dreams.

Your attempt is an overwhelming success!

Tai is filled with rage and grief like one usually sees in a Greek tragedy.


Forums: Go positively apeshit.

Can do!

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 10 Jun 2011, 02:08
Pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooor Tai !!!! :cry:

Also, I think this proves Raven would NOT occupy herself in computing a formula that describes what age categories you may be interested in. :-)



On a happier note, looks like Raven's back for a while at least.
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES !!!! :)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: idontunderstand on 10 Jun 2011, 02:11
HAHA Tai's mischievious little fuckery-plans failed miserably. I can't help but grinning at this.  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 10 Jun 2011, 02:15
Forums: Go positively apeshit.

Can do!

I fear this development may cause the forums to descend from "bag of hammers" to "box of rocks" status.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: eternalluna on 10 Jun 2011, 02:17
Is it just me, or are Dora's irises not coloured in the last panel?

Also, loving the new-art-style Raven.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Akima on 10 Jun 2011, 02:19
Poor Tai. I'm imagining her sitting in the middle of a smoke-blackened crater.

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TinPenguin on 10 Jun 2011, 02:39
It is only when she is standing in Coffee of Doom, with its orange walls, and Dora and Raven's pale gothic white skin, that I realise just how ORANGE Tai is.

In fact, Tai's skin and hair seem to be perfectly modelled on Coffee of Doom's decor.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheBiscuit on 10 Jun 2011, 03:03
I'm really quite pleased that Tai doesn't get her way. She... doesn't deserve to, and would not be good for Dora. She's too selfish and hedonistic.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tova on 10 Jun 2011, 03:15
I can't help but feel that Raven was brought back just to make this scene possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 10 Jun 2011, 03:17
I'm really quite pleased that Tai doesn't get her way. She... doesn't deserve to, and would not be good for Dora. She's too selfish and hedonistic.

Used to be...

She's trying to change that.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheBiscuit on 10 Jun 2011, 03:31
I'm really quite pleased that Tai doesn't get her way. She... doesn't deserve to, and would not be good for Dora. She's too selfish and hedonistic.

Used to be...

She's trying to change that.
I have seen the strips, and I remember them... but she still seems very much that way to me. She doesn't care about Marten's feelings even though he is her co-worker - she just wants to get naked with Dora, at all costs. How is that not selfish and hedonistic?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 10 Jun 2011, 03:45
Doesn't care about Marten's feelings? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1916)

Not to mention the fact that she was (or at least trying to be) honest with him (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1933) about her intentions (and Marten did eventually get the hint).
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Jun 2011, 03:47
I'm really quite pleased that Tai doesn't get her way. She... doesn't deserve to, and would not be good for Dora. She's too selfish and hedonistic.

Not to mention she's too young.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Jun 2011, 04:24
Not to mention she's too young.
Psh, if Jim's not too old, Tai's not too young.
she said YES?
Yeah, this was my reaction, too.  Less anger and more surprise, though, since it doesn't really fit the last panel of the last comic at all.  I guess he jumped ahead to this part because it's Friday, but still, how'd that happen?
Why do people think teaching is an easy job?  Why do we fill Ed major's heads with the cotton fluff of educational theory?
Wait, was this directed at me?  The second part, I agree, the theory classes are annoying and useless, but as to the first part, when did I say I thought teaching would be an easy job?  It's what I plan to do, and what I'm studying, but not because I think it'll be easy or because of summers off.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: westrim on 10 Jun 2011, 04:25
Oh god, that's why Tai annoys some people so much and has boundary issues- she's  Navi. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVebwHhFKcs)

Also, given her reaction last strip (and previously) to his overture, I'm rather surprised by Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Border Reiver on 10 Jun 2011, 05:24
Toe in the water for Dora - knife to the gut for Tai, and Marten will likely go "Meh". 

Tai's probable over-reaction and Marten trying to help his friend/boss should be interesting.  Looking forward to next week
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: stoutfiles on 10 Jun 2011, 05:51
Does anyone actually like Tai?  Not us, but the characters in the comic.  They all act pretty indifferent to her.  I understand her horniness is supposed to be comic relief, but to the characters its just kinda creepy.  We already know Faye thinks this.

Hopefully she twitches her way to the busstop and takes one out of town.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Jun 2011, 05:58
My reaction when I saw the comic? "Ah crap, people'll be going nuts on the forum."

I don't think anyone in the cast actually hates Tai, its just more that she isn't really a part of their social circle so its more indifference.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Blyss on 10 Jun 2011, 06:03
I honestly don't care about Tai in this.  My initial response (and it seems to be lingering) was "Dora said YES?!  WHAT. THE. FUCK?!"

 :x
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: rje on 10 Jun 2011, 06:04
Well color me surprised again! I feel sorry for Tai but I kind of think Dora would have turned her down anyway; they're at different places in their life and I kinda always got the feeling Dora thought of her as more a little sister kind of thing, but more teasing.

At any rate, good for Dora! Step out of your boundaries and try new things once in awhile, why not? I mean, really why not. I highly doubt she's looking for a serious relationship; doubt Jim is either. Doesn't mean they can't go do something and see if they click enough to enjoy one another's company for a time.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Emperor Norton on 10 Jun 2011, 06:16
My reaction when I saw the comic? "Ah crap, people'll be going nuts on the forum."

I already expected that she would have said yes, even though I don't think she should. Jeph said several times that this was a storyline he was heading up to for a while now... and who heads up to a story of that one time Dora turned down a guy?

Yay drama.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: viva_x on 10 Jun 2011, 06:45
Everyone is complaining about Tai and Dora, and I'm here super annoyed with Raven. I HATE people that do that. If someone doesn't mention something, then it's not your business to be sharing.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: grimeyville on 10 Jun 2011, 06:56
I feel bad for Tai because this will probably feed her obsession from crush to 'I NEED to be with this person'. As for Dora dating someone, it's not too surprising, is it? I mean when you have a couple and one person is dumped and the other person is the dumper...

Well doesn't the dumper start dating first, no matter what the situation? Sure, Dora may or may not be well, how do we know?
However she ended it first and well, that's grounds for bouncing back.

Marten is the one who's world is kind of inherently crunched and he's slowly patching it back together.
Fact is, Marten probably doesn't need a relationship at this point. He's got enough on his plate being emotionally deadened inside and listless.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Jun 2011, 07:16
Does anyone actually like Tai?  Not us, but the characters in the comic.  They all act pretty indifferent to her.

Dora? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776); Dora? (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1249)

Dora thought of her as more a little sister

Pet (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=776) rather than sister!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cabbagehut on 10 Jun 2011, 07:26
Oh, Raven.  I love her because like she said before, there's just no malice.  She'll steamroll you, but with a smile.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Hebes on 10 Jun 2011, 08:01
Aww, I feel sorry for Tai. If nothing else because rejection is never a good thing.

Dunno how I feel about Dora and that guy though. He just seems a little creepy to me.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 10 Jun 2011, 08:05
HAHA Tai's mischievious little fuckery-plans failed miserably. I can't help but grinning at this.  :evil:

I'm really quite pleased that Tai doesn't get her way. She... doesn't deserve to, and would not be good for Dora. She's too selfish and hedonistic.

Oh, Raven.  I love her because like she said before, there's just no malice.  She'll steamroll you, but with a smile.

Aaaaand just about everything I wanted to say has already been said!

I kinda like Jim.  And you can't deny that this is going to get very interesting.

Also, Raven is the queen of subtlety.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Jun 2011, 08:11
I have to say that Dora in the fourth panel is actually the best she's looked for most of the year. Its also an expression I've had several times before with friends just blurting something out. Its just "Really? Couldn't wait two more seconds could ya?"
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: LeeC on 10 Jun 2011, 08:19
I concur with the statement that Tai seems like a little sister to Dora.  Just different worlds, lesbian or not.  Tai is in the college scene and never really had a serious monogamous relationship.  From what I have seen in the comic she only remarks on how hot Dora is.  Have they really hung out one on one in a way that showed she likes Dora's personality?  Its like Tai just wants to have sex with her and thats it?  They've known each other how long?  The maturity level difference is present when Tai came to both house parties and ended up naked.  Dora seems past that stage in her life.  But who knows.  We never got Dora's perspective on Tai since the end of Marten and Dora's relationship.

As for Jim, he's not being creepy, he is being straightforward.  But at the same time I don't like this prospect because if they do date and it doesnt go well the business partnership is in jeopardy and thats just bad business.  Don't shit where you eat and all that jazz.

Honestly we really havnt heard much about Dora Post break-up and how she is feeling about everything lately.  perhaps we will on Monday.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 10 Jun 2011, 09:21
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! Oh, my heart is torn in two. One the one hand, I feel for Tai. On the other, sexy older man is sexy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: 0kamisama on 10 Jun 2011, 10:39
Firstly, I'm a bit disheartened to see Dora seemingly spring for something with Jim, despite A: She still seems to be carrying some baggage from her relationship with Marten, and B) Jim, while being the "sexy silver", as per the other forum-goers say, has a rather checkered past, including what seems to be a messy divorce. That does set off a few warnings that should be heeded. Perhaps it's clutching for hope, but Dora might not find Jim to be the steady relationship partner she needs right now, and she'll move on for a few more weeks of singlehood.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: LeeC on 10 Jun 2011, 10:52
wait a minute.  Both are hurt from past relationships, both own their own company, both have wacky employees.  This actually could work...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: fiery_explosion on 10 Jun 2011, 10:54
Awww, and Tai wore her lucky shirt, too.

This is a double whammy. Not only is she going out with someone else, but a significantly older one.

I wish Dora went to the party. I'd love to see what would have happened.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 10 Jun 2011, 11:47
Everyone is complaining about Tai and Dora, and I'm here super annoyed with Raven. I HATE people that do that. If someone doesn't mention something, then it's not your business to be sharing.
Raven had no way of knowing what Tai was up to.

Also, Tai has done exactly the same to Marigold about the Faye+Angus pairing.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 10 Jun 2011, 11:49
Aww, I feel sorry for Tai. If nothing else because rejection is never a good thing.
Uh, Tai wasnt rejected ? Dora didnt have a clue about why Tai wanted her at her party.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Jun 2011, 11:52
Everyone is complaining about Tai and Dora, and I'm here super annoyed with Raven. I HATE people that do that. If someone doesn't mention something, then it's not your business to be sharing.
Raven had no way of knowing what Tai was up to.

Also, Tai has done exactly the same to Marigold about the Faye+Angus pairing.

Except Raven has always been one of those people whose mouth is moving ten times faster than her brain. As great as Raven might seem she is the kind of person who always ruins the surprise, gives the news to the wrong person at the wrong time and generally involves herself in matters that don't really concern her.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 10 Jun 2011, 11:57
Everyone is complaining about Tai and Dora, and I'm here super annoyed with Raven. I HATE people that do that. If someone doesn't mention something, then it's not your business to be sharing.
Raven had no way of knowing what Tai was up to.

Also, Tai has done exactly the same to Marigold about the Faye+Angus pairing.

Except Raven has always been one of those people whose mouth is moving ten times faster than her brain. As great as Raven might seem she is the kind of person who always ruins the surprise, gives the news to the wrong person at the wrong time and generally involves herself in matters that don't really concern her.

That may all be true, BUT ! I repeat ! - she had, in this case, no way of knowing what Tai was up to.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Jun 2011, 12:04
That may all be true, BUT ! I repeat ! - she had, in this case, no way of knowing what Tai was up to.

And what right did Raven have to tell Tai about Dora's personal plans? As far as I remember Raven and Tai have never really met outside of C.o.D., they aren't friends, she's just Marten's co-worker. In this case Tai and Dora were having the beginnings of a conversation, when Raven butted in and revealed personal information. Now, she couldn't have known was Tai was up to, but still, come on, acting like that with someone you barely know? How is that right?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 10 Jun 2011, 12:31
That may all be true, BUT ! I repeat ! - she had, in this case, no way of knowing what Tai was up to.

And what right did Raven have to tell Tai about Dora's personal plans? As far as I remember Raven and Tai have never really met outside of C.o.D., they aren't friends, she's just Marten's co-worker. In this case Tai and Dora were having the beginnings of a conversation, when Raven butted in and revealed personal information. Now, she couldn't have known was Tai was up to, but still, come on, acting like that with someone you barely know? How is that right?

In a universe where people casually threaten each other with Malay Battle Spatulas, I'd say that is perfectly normal behavior.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Heliphyneau on 10 Jun 2011, 12:34
Frankly, even if the timing was ideal for Dora to move on, I don't really see anything longterm and positive working out between her and Jim OR Tai.  Bumpy ride will be bumpy.  Hijinks . . . inbound.  ^_^  After all, Tai's just invited a whole bunch of people to this party -- she made the mistake of inviting the guest of honor last, but that doesn't mean she'll cancel the whole thing.  Tai and Marten can be bitter together, and maybe Raven will show up with the makeout hobo.  Who knows.  There are any of a number of ways this could all go kablooie, drama-and-silliness-wise.  Perhaps pie will be involved.  And waffles.

As for Jim, he's not being creepy, he is being straightforward.

Asking Dora out wasn't creepy.  Bitch-monologuing earlier about his divorce and awkwardly complimenting (?) Dora ("You're a real woman!") was creepy.  Also, he really does look like Littlefinger.  >_>  I guess we'll find out over the next week or so if he has enough favorable traits to overcome the initial creepiness.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Jun 2011, 12:37
Frankly, even if the timing was ideal for Dora to move on, I don't really see anything longterm and positive working out between her and Jim OR Tai.  Bumpy ride will be bumpy.  Hijinks . . . inbound.  ^_^ 

And Tai's fantasy romance with Dora grinds to a halt.....Yeah...I'll be leaving now....
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 10 Jun 2011, 12:52
Aww, I feel sorry for Tai. If nothing else because rejection is never a good thing.
Uh, Tai wasnt rejected ? Dora didnt have a clue about why Tai wanted her at her party.

I certainly don't think Dora has missed out on Tai's feelings towards her. On the other hand, I don't think Dora is interested in a relationship with anyone right now. I think what she's looking for in Jim is a new friend, a more mature one and one that is not in the same small circle of friends as the rest. And, as noted earlier - this could work.

wait a minute.  Both are hurt from past relationships, both own their own company, both have wacky employees.  This actually could work...

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I like to chime in with the people disliking what Raven did. Not to say I'm not doing so myself every once in a while, we all make social mistakes every once in a while. However, interrupting someone in the middle of speaking is rather extreme. Even that doesn't mean we should dislike Raven just what she did.

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Honestly we really havnt heard much about Dora Post break-up and how she is feeling about everything lately.  perhaps we will on Monday.

Frankly, even if the timing was ideal for Dora to move on, I don't really see anything longterm and positive working out between her and Jim OR Tai.

Well, according to my estimates, there has been less than two months since the breakup. She and Marten haven't seen each other since, and they're obviously not gonna let it stay that way. I fail to see this as good timing.

Dora and Marten need to resolve the matter, they need to be friends. They could even get back together, but that would probably take a few months of singleship and therapy. No one in the comic has been single that long since Marten and Faye had the talk, except for Hanners and Marigold. Still, it can happen, and I hope it will - I don't see their feelings toward each other faded. But then again, we don't know that much lately...

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Shit, this post got a little too long...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tiogyr on 10 Jun 2011, 13:04
Things could be a whole lot worse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuiYmyCeqeo) with regard to Dora's choices in dating.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Blood-Tree on 10 Jun 2011, 13:09
I submit two points for the forum's consideration:

1) Tai dating an employee's ex is uber unprofessional

2) Dora dating a business partner is uber unprofessional

In conclusion, I  believe it is clear for all to see that, due to recent uber unprofessional events, neither Dora nor Tai should be considered to be true business professionals.


Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: someone on 10 Jun 2011, 13:40
Gosh this is so cool!
Marten patiently (interminably) waits for Faye for years(?) only to not get told he has no chance. But wait, there is hope!!
Marten then gets crazy Dora. All goes well for a while.
Marten breaks up with his crazy Dora because she is, well, crazy, so avoids her coffee shop.
He goes to a new shop but that owner meanwhile dates his crazy ex girlfriend.
Shop is full of another cast of fun, silly characters who all serve to beat Marten's self estem in delicious trainwrecky ways. (I am trying out forum lingo here.)
A co worker is lusting after his crazy ex girlfriend but loses out on her first chance to date her (queue forum posters putting interesting emoticons about potential angst and how they love Tai.) However, co worker clearly gives Marten a nice gut punch on the way.
Marten stumbles through life while his friends offer no support but stay part of Crazy ex girlfriends shop circle where they all seem to work. Hey, but he seems to take it in stride. Dora, meanwile, is up to her armpits in dating oportunity.
What is next, hmmm. Dora and Jim go to party and have sex in front of Marten and Tai? All Marten's friends date Marten's mom?  Oh, wouldn't that be a neeto trainwreck?
Faye asks Marten to be her bridesmaid at her wedding?
This is sooo cool. I wish I knew how to do that devil horns emoticon!
Jeph, I hope you are wearing that cool leather jacket. The view of the shark must be pretty sweet.

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: rje on 10 Jun 2011, 14:04
  but Dora might not find Jim to be the steady relationship partner she needs right now

Do you mean steady relationship as in Jim's not a steady person, or that Dora needs to be in a steady relationship?
Because I soooooooo
ooooooo
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(haha sorry)
do not think she needs that.

I think she needs to make some new friends, see some new people, lightly date more than one person and just be cool man
 8-) be casual

Just cos she's the girl doesn't mean she wants to fall in love and get serious again right off the bat.
I always hate that assumption (not saying anyone in here is really doing it purposefully of course but some posts just reminded me of it)
when a male/female couple breaks up, it's so common in media to see the guy goin out with a bunch of different people to get back up on the dating horse
but seeing the girl alone alone alone, until she finds one single person to fall in love with again  (and he may or may not be the actual mr right, if he's not the initial breakup guy was mr right all along, god romcoms suck)

Idk what Jeph's gonna do obvs, but I'd love to see Dora and Jim havin a fling, personally

(I would be such a bad therapist)

Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Jun 2011, 14:52
Marten patiently (interminably) waits for Faye for years(?)
Not years; and barely a quarter of the time the strip has run.
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Marten then gets crazy Dora. All goes well for a while. Marten breaks up with his crazy Dora
Well, Dora gets Marten, really.  And Dora breaks up with Marten, not the other way round.
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A co-worker is lusting after his crazy ex girlfriend
His boss, actually, which is not quite the same.
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I wish I knew how to do that devil horns emoticon!
You click on it; it's not hard. :evil:
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Jeph, I hope you are wearing that cool leather jacket. The view of the shark must be pretty sweet.
Jeph doesn't come here these days.  If you want to communicate with him you should use some other channel.  He might even give you his take on sharks - I've seen him do that before.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Tanksenior on 10 Jun 2011, 15:02
I have to say that Dora in the fourth panel is actually the best she's looked for most of the year. Its also an expression I've had several times before with friends just blurting something out. Its just "Really? Couldn't wait two more seconds could ya?"

Hah, so true, I fully agree :)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Jun 2011, 15:13
Wow, we're going into "Jump The Shark" posting territory? That'd be worse than Godwin-ing a thread.

First of all: had our Raven not blurted it out, Dora would have probably let Tai down easy. The crush would have been postponed for another day, which would have led to another awkward situation somewhere down the line. Which could have been played for comedy gold - but it would have meant no payoff today.

Second: Raven needs another "You're making me hungry" moment with Dora. Failing that, a Gibbs-slap, Cosette-style, might work.

Third: While it is surprising that she did accept the date with Jim (and I posited this in another thread), I suspect Jim will end up being a doppelganger "combo" of herself AND Marten. And she'll have a sister that'll turn out to be a protege... of Ms. Veronica Vance. That will be the end of the date.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheBiscuit on 10 Jun 2011, 15:40
Doesn't care about Marten's feelings? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1916)

Not to mention the fact that she was (or at least trying to be) honest with him (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1933) about her intentions (and Marten did eventually get the hint).
The interesting thing about the first link you posted is that she knows it would be a shitty thing to do, and yet she's going to do it anyway. I suppose the second comic is... a kind of honesty. Almost.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 10 Jun 2011, 15:55
What she says is that it would be a shitty thing to do without saying something to him first. Which she then does, albeit by a roundabout way, which doesn't matter too much since Marten figured it out. More to the point, Tai is obviously conflicted and it's clear she doesn't want to hurt Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kugai on 10 Jun 2011, 16:54
Aaaand we have Tai's 'Maverick' crash and burn.  Gotta feel a little sorry for her.


But Dora

JIM???!!!


*Twitch Twitch*
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Jun 2011, 17:22
What she says is that it would be a shitty thing to do without saying something to him first. Which she then does, albeit by a roundabout way, which doesn't matter too much since Marten figured it out. More to the point, Tai is obviously conflicted and it's clear she doesn't want to hurt Marten.

Well, there isn't exactly a greeting card that says, "Can I bang your ex-girlfriend?" Though maybe there should be. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1329)


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Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Blackjoker on 10 Jun 2011, 19:00
I I have a couple of thoughts of my own about where things might go with this, but most are absurdly unlikely

1) Marten ends up meeting a new potential gf at the Smif party or at least finds something to help him slowly rebuild.
2) Raven goes to said party and perhaps something with her and Marten (also highly unlikely but it might be plausible)
3) All we see is the aftermath and Cossette muttering about some crazy Russian Cyborg trying to kill her with no one believing her, though Steve looking distinctly uncomfortable.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Jun 2011, 19:07
3) All we see is the aftermath and Cossette muttering about some crazy Russian Cyborg trying to kill her with no one believing her, though Steve looking distinctly uncomfortable.

To be fair.....Marten might raise an eyebrow.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: grimeyville on 10 Jun 2011, 19:12
I'd actually appreciate Marten and Raven trying something.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: St.Clair on 10 Jun 2011, 19:28
"So Lane, since you and Beth aren't dating anymore, I was wondering..."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cuzsis on 10 Jun 2011, 19:39
HAHA Tai's mischievious little fuckery-plans failed miserably. I can't help but grinning at this.  :evil:

 This.

 She was pondering something that she knew she shouldn't do. She went out to do it anyway. Then it backfired horribly on her.

 Karma can be quite the teacher sometimes.

 Maybe Tai will grow up a little now. I have to admit, she's been the character I've liked the least so far. Just about everything she does in the comic seems to revolve around her and what she wants with everyone else taking a rather distant second. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: themacnut on 10 Jun 2011, 19:42

Just cos she's the girl doesn't mean she wants to fall in love and get serious again right off the bat.
I always hate that assumption (not saying anyone in here is really doing it purposefully of course but some posts just reminded me of it)
when a male/female couple breaks up, it's so common in media to see the guy goin out with a bunch of different people to get back up on the dating horse
but seeing the girl alone alone alone, until she finds one single person to fall in love with again  (and he may or may not be the actual mr right, if he's not the initial breakup guy was mr right all along, god romcoms suck)

Idk what Jeph's gonna do obvs, but I'd love to see Dora and Jim havin a fling, personally

(I would be such a bad therapist)



Pretty sure Jeph's going for the opposite of the classic corny romantic comedy trope. It looks like Dora will be the one dating casually, maybe even having a fling or two, while Marten's the one being "alone alone alone" for a good long while. Look at his prospects so far, basically Padma, who's shot him down at every turn and basically thinks of him as little more than a whiny townie customer, and possibly gay. She thinks Steve is more attractive. While that may change in time, Marten pretty much has no dating prospects on the horizon, while Dora has two people chasing her-and she's just let one of them "catch" her.

Marten's prospects may improve at Tai's party (if she even has it now that her star guest has begged off), but I'm not holding my breath-Marten's not very good at chatting up the ladies. Dora's gonna be the one having fun dating other people, not Marten. Never Marten, really. Wouldn't surprise me if he dates no one else for the rest of the strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Sorflakne on 10 Jun 2011, 19:44
Oh shit!  She said 'Yes'?!




Good, I like where this is going.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Kazukagii on 10 Jun 2011, 21:32
Is this a love triangle I'm sensing? Intriguing. I just hope Tai doesn't snap and murder the hypotenuse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MurderTheHypotenuse).

I also hope she doesn't go crying to Marten. I'd hate for Marten and Dora's first interaction since the breakup to be about this.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: The Duke on 10 Jun 2011, 21:37
Well, there isn't exactly a greeting card that says, "Can I bang your ex-girlfriend?" Though maybe there should be. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1329)

Your link was broken; I've fixed it in the quote if you want to edit your post.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: no one special on 10 Jun 2011, 21:57
Everyone is complaining about Tai and Dora, and I'm here super annoyed with Raven. I HATE people that do that. If someone doesn't mention something, then it's not your business to be sharing.

Tell me about it.  I can't freakin' stand it when Raven does stuff like this.  I am not really missing her at all. 

Besides, look at Dora's fave in the third panel.  She is clearly uneasy.  It's either because a) she doesn't want people knowing about this embarrassing date she made; b) she has an inkling of how Tai feels and she wanted to just gently explain that she "had plans" until Raven fucked it up; or c) both.  Whatever the reason, it's clear (to me) that Raven needs to go away.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Jun 2011, 23:04
Why do people think teaching is an easy job?  Why do we fill Ed major's heads with the cotton fluff of educational theory?
Wait, was this directed at me?  The second part, I agree, the theory classes are annoying and useless, but as to the first part, when did I say I thought teaching would be an easy job?  It's what I plan to do, and what I'm studying, but not because I think it'll be easy or because of summers off.

Sorry, Method.  I was ranting more at the general public's opinion of teaching.  You know, the old "Well, if I can't do X I can always teach..."
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Near Lurker on 10 Jun 2011, 23:23
Is this a love triangle I'm sensing? Intriguing. I just hope Tai doesn't snap and murder the hypotenuse (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MurderTheHypotenuse).

Tai may be the single least likely character in the strip to kill someone.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Jun 2011, 23:45
Tai may be the single least likely character in the strip to kill someone.

I dunno, if she get's the wrong batch of "E".........
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 11 Jun 2011, 00:15
I have to say that Dora in the fourth panel is actually the best she's looked for most of the year.

That was the very first thing I thought while reading the comic...

The second oneis obviously because of what just happened: Oh SNAP TAI! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cyro on 11 Jun 2011, 02:21
I am amused by the assumtion that Marten will turn into some sort of Cassanova for this party.

By Cassanova I mean the passively-wait-around-for-dominant-women-to-come-and-pick-him-up, original version.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Blackjoker on 11 Jun 2011, 03:21
I am amused by the assumtion that Marten will turn into some sort of Cassanova for this party.

By Cassanova I mean the passively-wait-around-for-dominant-women-to-come-and-pick-him-up, original version.

Oh, I find it unlikely, though I might want to see a 'bad options' conga of just various women who either reject him or that his brain screams 'bad idea' at the thoughts of any kind of relationship with.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Jun 2011, 05:58
Didn't we see that in the bar with Steve? 

Chick with tatoos and Slap girl (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1861)

Padma (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1864)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: snubnose on 11 Jun 2011, 12:21
Heyyyy !!!  :|

Raven is FUNNY !

Dont dizz Raven ! :-( Not funny ! Not at all !!! :oops:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 11 Jun 2011, 12:24
Besides, look at Dora's fave in the third panel.  She is clearly uneasy.  It's either because a) she doesn't want people knowing about this embarrassing date she made; b) she has an inkling of how Tai feels and she wanted to just gently explain that she "had plans" until Raven fucked it up; or c) both.  Whatever the reason, it's clear (to me) that Raven needs to go away.

Or, more probably IMHO, that Dora doesn't see this date the way Raven describes it. At all.

We don't even know how the rest of the conversation with Jim went down. The two of the might have made it clear that this is a business date, or that they're trying to get to know each other (looking for new friends), or that it is indeed what we call "a date". Raven would end up saying what she said regardless.

Can't wait for next week... :)
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 11 Jun 2011, 14:34
Raven's story function: Agent of chaos. also, Teh Funneh.
This episode could have gotten where it was going without Raven, but we would not have gotten that Raven face in the third tier. It's a great face.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 11 Jun 2011, 16:33
Also, fanservice.

Remember, she's a riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in an awesome rack!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Jun 2011, 16:41
Raven's real function was the AWKWARD.  Dora was in the middle of letting Tai down easy, which many of us predicted.  And Raven... well, I Tai wasn't let down easy, was she?  I think she actually bounced. 

Pretty high. 


Man, that's a nasty twitch. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 11 Jun 2011, 17:45
At least she didn't shatter. Yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Jun 2011, 17:47
At least she didn't shatter. Yet.

No, but you can see some of the cracks forming. Its like glass kind of spider-webbing. Its kinda pretty  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Jun 2011, 17:51
I kind of agree that Tai and Dora wouldn't be the best development right now, but I can't help for feeling bad for her. It's a pretty awful feeling finding out you're too late in making a move on someone you're crushing hard on. Been there  :|

What I'm really saying is, all ya'll who are so happy Tai got shot down without even getting off the runway are sadistic assholes.

/oh no she didn't
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Jun 2011, 17:55
But we're on the internet, we're all sadistic assholes anyway... wait...

And I wouldn't say Tai was shot down, it was more like she was about to take off, only the engines failed and the plane had to be taken off the runway.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Jun 2011, 18:13
So many people have been walking into COD lately, trying to psych themselves up for what awaited them, that it's starting to be a trend...
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 11 Jun 2011, 18:58
It should be on the menu board:
Gentle let-down, $5.50; Hard landing, no damage, $5; Hard landing with damage; $4.50; Crash'n'burn, $4.

"Sadistic asshole shootdown" goes on the specials board ... With or without twitchings.

Edited for spelling, internal logic.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: akronnick on 11 Jun 2011, 19:43
Getting blown out the door by the pure power of Faye's scorn is still free though, right?
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Jun 2011, 19:46
Of course, thats half the charm of Coffee of Doom.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Jun 2011, 20:31
NeverQuiteGoth called it a "scorngasm", which is a wonderful coinage well worth remembering.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Dust on 11 Jun 2011, 20:48
Handily skipped the  :psyduck:, so my comment would be "Dora sure is 'off with the fairies' in the first panel". That's all.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: gprimr1 on 11 Jun 2011, 20:49
I def agree that she wasn't crushed. I will second the analogy of a race, seeing the checkered flag drop, pushing in the gas, and nothing happens. Failure to launch.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 12 Jun 2011, 03:19
Getting blown out the door by the pure power of Faye's scorn is still free though, right?

It's the one part of the Secret Menu Faye likes.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cabbagehut on 12 Jun 2011, 04:03
Oh, what Raven did was absolutely rude.  She's kind of a rude person, really.  I like her very much, though, because she's generally a very kind-spirited person, and does stupid things out of excitement, not any desire to hurt or humiliate anyone.

I can't say I've liked Tai a whole lot.  But to be honest, I don't really like Dora, either.  Tai is oblivious to certain things, but has shown that she can read complex situations, which just makes me annoyed.  She takes things way too far (like the getting undressed/super drunk at the parties), and never seems to make any amends for her behavior.  Dora hurts people because she is unwilling to take control of her problems.  She's shown that she knows that she has problems trusting people, but she never did anything about it, hurting Marten and all of those connected to him.  That could have made a huge impact on her business, and has certainly hurt her social circle.

I think Dora and Tai getting together would be an absolute trainwreck.  Tai doesn't seem to do well without very-clearly-defined boundaries and has shown little self-restraint, would she be able/willing to turn down any advances she received?  Has she ended things with the women she was involved with?  If she could be trusted, would Dora be able to trust her?  I think that they would end up triggering a lot of each other's problems - Tai and her constant need for attention, and Dora and her lack of trust.

Dora and Jim?  I don't know enough about Jim as a character to be able to pass any judgment.  I think it's an odd choice for someone to start a business agreement and immediately move on to asking for a dinner date (?).  It suggests a level of unprofessionalism, and could really end badly - if Dora doesn't return his feelings, will this turn into an awkward goods-trade situation?  Dora may think he had ulterior motives for wanting to start a business arrangement.  It feels suspicious to me, but I am not a very trusting person, either, so I am probably way off base.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: DSL on 12 Jun 2011, 08:38
NeverQuiteGoth called it a "scorngasm", which is a wonderful coinage well worth remembering.

I move, if it hasn't already happened, this be added to the forum lexicon.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Jun 2011, 12:23
Dora hurts people because she is unwilling to take control of her problems. 
Hmm...Unwilling, or unable? She told Marten that she'd tried to keep herself from having crazy reactions. On the other hand, once it was clear that she couldn't take control of her problems on her own, it was time to engage counseling, and she didn't go willingly.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: wgabrie on 12 Jun 2011, 16:45
So, comic 1945, last panel (Dora's eyes) new iris testing in the art? Cool!
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: tomart on 12 Jun 2011, 18:59
I am amused by the assumtion that Marten will turn into some sort of Cassanova for this party.
By Cassanova I mean the passively-wait-around-for-dominant-women-to-come-and-pick-him-up, original version.

It's  because  Marten isn't Casanova that he needs situations like this party.  Remember the girl who got up the courage to ask him out at the library?*  
This party could be that times twenty; disinhibited by recreational substances, having observed him in their native environment long enough, and finding out he's just been dumped, I can see the line forming to the left...

I used to be shy and passive like our hero.  Yay for dominant (assertive) women!  (Like his mother!  We've explored the roots of his personality 'round these parts...)

I'm rooting for this party (whatever lulz/drama Jeph has cooked up) to open the channels between Marten and the myriad dating opportunities awaiting him around his job.

* [edit] thanks, Dog, I had forgotten that. 
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Jun 2011, 19:03
Remember the girl who got up the courage to ask him out at the library?

That girl was Cosette, if you remember correctly.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: cabbagehut on 12 Jun 2011, 22:31
Dora hurts people because she is unwilling to take control of her problems. 
Hmm...Unwilling, or unable? She told Marten that she'd tried to keep herself from having crazy reactions. On the other hand, once it was clear that she couldn't take control of her problems on her own, it was time to engage counseling, and she didn't go willingly.

Yes, unable is a much better way of phrasing it.  She did try with Marten.  She just didn't succeed.  I felt like she gave up trying at the end, which was probably why I said it like I did, but that wasn't giving her enough credit.
Title: Re: WCDT 6-10 June 2011 (1941-1945) [World War II Edition]
Post by: O8h7w on 13 Jun 2011, 01:07
Dora hurts people because she is unwilling to take control of her problems. 
Hmm...Unwilling, or unable? She told Marten that she'd tried to keep herself from having crazy reactions. On the other hand, once it was clear that she couldn't take control of her problems on her own, it was time to engage counseling, and she didn't go willingly.

Yes, unable is a much better way of phrasing it.  She did try with Marten.  She just didn't succeed.  I felt like she gave up trying at the end, which was probably why I said it like I did, but that wasn't giving her enough credit.

She was having a rough time at the end. When you have that, you give everything up. Which reminds me, I need to go back to my damn studies...

Another reason she didn't succeed was that she does need a therapist to do that. Maybe she is unable to control it because her unconscious is unwilling to change? I daresay it's a common trait for the unconscious mind to work against change, but I would like some backup from someone who actually knows some psychology here.