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Title: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Jun 2011, 05:59
Personally, I think something will happen at some stage, thats my prediction. Only time will tell if I can accurately predict the future.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: Dust on 12 Jun 2011, 06:36
Personally, I think something will happen at some stage, thats my prediction. Only time will tell if I can accurately predict the future.

I disagree, I predict we'll get a "Best of Yelling Bird" week and it'll drop back in after the party.

This is probably why I don't predict things very often.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Jun 2011, 09:13
Hang on, isn't the QC guest week coming up soon? I mean, that would be the perfect time to keep us hanging on and wondering what's going to happen next.....




....Yeah, I've jinxed it, haven't I?....
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: Kugai on 12 Jun 2011, 11:28
Hang on, isn't the QC guest week coming up soon? I mean, that would be the perfect time to keep us hanging on and wondering what's going to happen next.....




....Yeah, I've jinxed it, haven't I?....

Most definitely

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jun 2011, 11:50
"Best of Yelling Bird" week and it'll drop back in after the party.
So there was a party, and a bunch of stuff happened.  And then, they all fucked.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: themacnut on 12 Jun 2011, 11:58
I predict that Marten's luck with women will continue as it has since Dora dumped him. In other words, no new woman for Marten, eternal singlehood is his fate.

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: LeeC on 12 Jun 2011, 12:06
Marten will be fine. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1806)  I am sure he will jump back into the dating game soon.  After all It is usually easier for someone with self doubt to find a new girl shortly after a break up that wasnt their fault.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: O8h7w on 12 Jun 2011, 15:07
Well, yes, but I don't think his mind will let go of Dora until he sees that she has moved on. Remember, none of them has stated that they don't love each other anymore.

I predict next week will see lots of awkwardness and progress, mostly hand in hand.  :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950) [Birth - 4]
Post by: tomart on 12 Jun 2011, 17:44
Yelling Bird.
So there was a party, and a bunch of stuff happened.  And then, they all fucked.

Yeah, we could hear about the party through YB's warped filter...    :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 12 Jun 2011, 20:57
For some reason I predict Pintsize doing a tango with a box of waffles. I don't know why, but this feels plausible right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Jun 2011, 21:08
Faye is having a similar reaction to Dora's date (and it looks like it's a real date, to her at least) that I did.

I think she just wants Dora and Marten to get back together so everyone will be happy again. Too bad it doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 12 Jun 2011, 21:11
Hmmm. Wikipeda on Baba Yaga:
In most Slavic folk tales, she is portrayed as an antagonist; however, some characters in other mythological folk stories have been known to seek her out for her wisdom, and she has been known on rare occasions to offer guidance to lost souls.
Probably, Blodwyn. Probably. If you still have that Beetle, see about replacing the wheels with chicken legs. Leave off the eating of small children, though; it doesn't appear to be mandatory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Jun 2011, 21:20
Raven may have been thinking of the Baba Yaga movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069753/).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 12 Jun 2011, 21:28
Thanks for saving me a trip to Wikipedia, DSL. I read the last panel and was like "wha?"

Dora's got a point, after all the bullshit she went through to "get" Marten and all the baggage that came with that relationship (although to be fair, it was her baggage), someone who gets right to the point is probably refreshing. But I still agree with Faye more, Dora should wait until she's got a better grasp of herself before she tries anything romantic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 12 Jun 2011, 21:29
Dora as a werewolf, Faye as Frankenstein's monster, and Raven as Baba Yaga. I smell Halloween costumes! Or a wild night at Yelling Bird's place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jun 2011, 21:29
Damn it, Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Jun 2011, 21:45
So, does that make Marten Dracula?


And what does that make Hanners?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 12 Jun 2011, 21:50
No, Hanners is Dracula. She's the one who wanted Marten's blood (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1607).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: reboundstudent on 12 Jun 2011, 21:53
I really don't see what's so bad about Dora going on a single date. Yeah she's got issues... But one date doesn't instantaneously mean long term relationship. What, does Dora have to lock herself in a room and refuse any and all romantic interludes, no matter how low-key and straight forward, until therapy has "fixed" her? Isn't it possible for her to date casually and enjoy herself, so long as she's upfront that that's what she's looking for?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Skewbrow on 12 Jun 2011, 21:59
Raven may have been thinking of the Baba Yaga movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069753/).
Thanks for this. I had a hard time picturing Raven as an old witch out of fairy tales. Or a fan of Mussorgsky.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 12 Jun 2011, 22:01
You can always count on Faye to call people out on their shit. :-)  I would laugh so hard if Dora thinks its a date and Jim just thinks its dinner to better understand his business rival/partner.

cant help but feel like Dora is taking a shot at marten too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Jun 2011, 22:10
I'd figure Raven would be a Yuki-onna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki-onna). Without the long black hair. She has the lips part done pat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: grimeyville on 12 Jun 2011, 22:15
I find it funny that it was Dora's issues, and Dora's baggage, and she finds things refreshing. I also expect her to stop going to to the psychiatrist if this turns out "well".
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Jun 2011, 22:26
Dora is simply reinforcing her own bad behaviour.

This will end badly. The only hope is that it ends quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: gprimr1 on 12 Jun 2011, 22:39
I am glad to see Dora responding positively to direct engagement. I've often had the trouble of being very blunt, when the girl is in fact looking for a response that requires quantum cryptography to decode.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 12 Jun 2011, 22:44
For some reason this thought formed "Fayes Curves and snarkiness, Dora's goth sensibilities, and Ravens bubbliness and attraction skills, combine to form ELVIRA." Though this makes me wonder what this makes the rest of the COD staff.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Jun 2011, 22:47
...Though this makes me wonder what this makes the rest of the COD staff.


Irrelevent
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cuzsis on 12 Jun 2011, 22:47
Dora is simply reinforcing her own bad behaviour.

This will end badly. The only hope is that it ends quickly.

 Yep.

 Props to Faye for calling her on it.

 After all the crap she gave Marten, you think Dora would be a little more careful with other people's feelings this time around?

 Nope, guess not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: slingstone on 12 Jun 2011, 23:25
playing with feelings?  Christ, it's the first "date" between two people getting to know each other.  If either Jim or Dora had developed strong feelings already, they have other issued to address first.

This is reaching back to last week, but I wonder if I'm the only one who failed to see any wrongdoing in Raven's interjection?  It seems completely in line with the snark and teasing of CoD
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: St.Clair on 12 Jun 2011, 23:33
To heck with fixing anything, I'm just gonna drop all of my unresolved baggage on someone else!
Who I also happen to be starting a business relationship with!
What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Ravenswing on 12 Jun 2011, 23:36
Creeper (n.): someone older than I would dare to let people see date myself.

Yeah, because Faye's just the sort of gal from whom you'd want to hear relationship advice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 12 Jun 2011, 23:41
To heck with fixing anything, I'm just gonna drop all of my unresolved baggage on someone else!
Who I also happen to be starting a business relationship with!
What could possibly go wrong?

Well, your best friend could get fed up with your bullshit and carry out on her threat to dispose of your body in a wood chipper...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Akima on 12 Jun 2011, 23:51
No, Hanners is Dracula. She's the one who wanted Marten's blood (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1607).
Not enough for drinking though, but quite enough for magic spells, I'm sure. Hanners for the White Witch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Witch)...

Creeper (n.): someone older than I would dare to let people see date myself.

See previous strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=360) on misuse of reflexive pronouns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: O8h7w on 13 Jun 2011, 00:27
Yeah, because Faye's just the sort of gal from whom you'd want to hear relationship advice.

Well, yes, who else (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=970)?

- - - - - - - -

Aaaand down the drain goes my hope that Dora saw a potential friend in Jim. Not completely though, she does say "it's just a date", and she could be able to keep it at that - provided Jim has a similarly reasonable approach. Well, the scenario with him meaning the whole thing as a business date is still highly plausible, as it would make for quite some fun.

I would laugh so hard if Dora thinks its a date and Jim just thinks its dinner to better understand his business rival/partner.

- - - - - - - -

playing with feelings?  Christ, it's the first "date" between two people getting to know each other.  If either Jim or Dora had developed strong feelings already, they have other issues to address first.

And this was another good point, although I feel this problem is way too commonplace.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Boomslang on 13 Jun 2011, 00:36
I really do not want to see Dora starting a relationship with Jim- and I think if the date goes well, she'll want to. The date will probably have wacky hijinks, but I don't see Jim disappointing her just yet.

Faye might as well be an expert on mental problems keeping someone from having a relationship- if she says Dora isn't ready, I'm willing to believe her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Jun 2011, 00:52
I note that Dora is comparing Jim with a revisionist view of her past:
Quote
No pussyfooting around the issue, no stupid drama.  It's a refreshing change of pace.

The way I read that, it sounds as if, in her mind, Dora is already turning the blame for the failure of her last relationship onto Marten, when actually it had been her  drama and her  setting of the pace.  I hope her therapist is good enough to be able to see through this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Jun 2011, 01:00
If she continues to see him.

No therapist in the world can help a patient who doesn't show up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: O8h7w on 13 Jun 2011, 01:10
If she continues to see him.

No therapist in the world can help a patient who doesn't show up.

Sad but true. I really hope that we get to see one of her therapy sessions soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Jun 2011, 01:46
Somewhere between the two extremes I would think, but closer to the second scenario.


Dora, by breaking up with Marten, put herself into a position where she can fall into her old traps. Now there's been enough time since the breakup that Dora has rationalized some of her actions so that she no longer sees the breakup as her fault as much. She may also simply be starting to get a little horny, and the scary relationship angst voices are being drowned out by the libido chorus.

She's like an alchoholic who's been sober for two months and thinks he's cured, so it's okay if he goes ahead and has that glass of scotch.

None of this means that Dora is a bad person or that I or anyone else on the forum thinks bad things should happen to her. We just are afraid that if she pursues this, she's just going to be right back where she started in six months or a year. Meanwhile, she's not only alienated her two best friends (Marten and Faye), she has jeopardized her business as well. This is assuming that Jim would be a good match for her, which I have not been convinced of. He probably has some issues regarding his divorce that he may not have unpacked yet, and judging by Dora's body language when they first met, I don't think she's that attracted to him.

The problems that Dora had during her relationship with Marten have not gone away, they have simply been dormant while she hasn't been seeing anyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 13 Jun 2011, 01:46
To heck with fixing anything, I'm just gonna drop all of my unresolved baggage on someone else!
Who I also happen to be starting a business relationship with!
What could possibly go wrong?

You talking about Dora, or Jim?

Seriously, is it permitted to post in this thread if you don't hate Dora?! The impression this thread is giving is that
a) Dora now blames Marten for everything,
b) She's dating Jim to spite Marten - which, given her attitude towards Faye-Sven would make her a complete hypocrite, but then...
c) Dora's a complete bitch, and everything she does is from purely evil motives. She's probably planning to get Jim to change his will, then murder him,
d) It'll all end in tears, at which point we'll all celebrate.

Heck, it couldn't possibly be
a) Dora blames herself for screwing up another relationship,
b) She has low self-esteem right now,
c) A "sexy older man" asks her out on a date, and she's flattered,
d) She accepts, somewhat against her better judgment, and is trying to persuade herself that his approach is "refreshing" rather than "creepy".
could it?

To be honest I'm not sure what the results would be. I don't hate Dora (in fact I really enjoy her character). I think part of it might just be some lingering irritation from people that Dora feels like either a Karma Houdini and/or that the fact that Dora seems to be doing well with Marten still in depression (and even arguably still trod on) causes some extra Dora hate. That being said, I am not sure this would end well, if only because Jims own actions earlier makes me worry that it could either lead to Dora being broken and/or it ending badly for business which then shakes her confidence in her ability to run a business (a point of pride) as well as her own attractiveness and how others would view her. It might end up breaking her heart and either make things much harder for her or cause her to do something that could cause harm/drama to others.

Then again it might turn out perfectly happy and Dora end up feeling wonderful and much better about herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Jun 2011, 01:54
Say what you like, but personally I think she's making a mistake in going out with Jim.  It strikes me that Jim has his own issues.

I can see this ending in a Faye/Sven train wreck - only uglier.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Jun 2011, 02:15
I think the best possible outcome would be for Dora to begin dating Jim, but see he's full of shit after a short time. This will then cause her to rethink her feelings vis-a-vis her relationship with Marten. At which point she'll seek to have him become part of her life again, if only as friends.

Unfortunately, Dora is not good at the letting-herself-be-vulnerable thing, so I fear it is unlikely she will initiate any kind of reconciliation with Marten. More likely she'll dump Jim and bemoan her inability to find a decent guy to Faye, who will then drag her by the earlobe and force her to sit down and talk with Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cabbagehut on 13 Jun 2011, 02:53
I don't think anyone in this thread "hates" Dora.  I dislike her as a "person", because I feel she doesn't look at herself in a healthy critical manner (she seems to me to flop between "Everything I do is wrong" and "Everything is perfectly fine and under control"), and I think it hurts her and the people around her.  I like her as a character, because she is realistic and well-written.  She's not some evil harpy who was out to get Marten, but that doesn't mean I have to like her, either.

From what Sven has suggested, if I recall correctly, was that Dora has spent very little time single.  I think it would be good for her to spend some time by herself and figure out a little bit more of why her relationships are so hard for her, and better ways of coping other than blowing up/shutting down.  While this could just be a first date, nothing serious, I feel like Dora has a tendency to avoid dealing with things that are difficult, because she likes to have control over what's happening in her life, and I think she overestimates her ability to keep her emotions in check.  Maybe this isn't her doing the same thing that she tends to do, maybe not, we don't know, but I don't think it's out-of-line to suggest that perhaps she isn't having "just a date".
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Somniloquence on 13 Jun 2011, 03:17
I have to say, Dora's comment about Marten kind of ticks me off a lot. She was the one to ask Marten out, she was the one who broke up because she had issues, and while Marten does pussyfoot around issues, I don't feel like that applies to their previous relationship.



Also, regardless of whether or not Jim/Dora happens, I feel more bad for Jim than Dora. He was largely attracted to her because of her apparent maturity, which has kinda been lacking lately. He seems like a nice guy, though. I'm curious how much of his personality we'll see in the date.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 13 Jun 2011, 03:35
If Marten pussyfooted around Faye and Dora, it's because he didn't want to lose any toes!

Many other guys would have said the hell with both of them a long time ago. Maybe it's because he's indecisive, but I think it's because he genuinely cares for both of them.

Regarding the end of their relationship, Marten tried to help Dora until he realized that her problems were beyond his abilities.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Atherius on 13 Jun 2011, 03:47
Somewhere between the two extremes I would think, but closer to the second scenario.


Dora, by breaking up with Marten, put herself into a position where she can fall into her old traps. Now there's been enough time since the breakup that Dora has rationalized some of her actions so that she no longer sees the breakup as her fault as much. She may also simply be starting to get a little horny, and the scary relationship angst voices are being drowned out by the libido chorus.

She's like an alchoholic who's been sober for two months and thinks he's cured, so it's okay if he goes ahead and has that glass of scotch.

None of this means that Dora is a bad person or that I or anyone else on the forum thinks bad things should happen to her. We just are afraid that if she pursues this, she's just going to be right back where she started in six months or a year. Meanwhile, she's not only alienated her two best friends (Marten and Faye), she has jeopardized her business as well. This is assuming that Jim would be a good match for her, which I have not been convinced of. He probably has some issues regarding his divorce that he may not have unpacked yet, and judging by Dora's body language when they first met, I don't think she's that attracted to him.

The problems that Dora had during her relationship with Marten have not gone away, they have simply been dormant while she hasn't been seeing anyone.

Can you clarify something for me? How exactly would she "jeopardize her business"? Even if things go sour, CoD doesn't seem to be based upon its pastry sales - but rather the sales of its coffee. Considering that Jim himself admits that Dora's coffee is superior to his own, I don't see how losing some until-recent-good-sales of baked goods will jeopardize her business wise.

To an unrelated point - I read Dora talking about the refreshing change as being the difference in the way things went. When things started with Marten, there was "drama" in that she had Faye's feeling to contend with then and (in her mind) all throughout. I don't think she's blaming anyone, just stating the obvious. I know a lot of people will probably disagree with this thought, but perhaps this is seeing Dora working through her issues? We haven't seen her in therapy, we haven't seen what's being discussed there and what her therapist has recommended or suggested. Maybe "just a date" is her way of trying to test the waters and see how she handles things. I think another poster is right. I've been reading but not posting here because, honestly, the forum seems like a LOT of Faye-love and Dora-"hate". Most comics that I read and that I've read in the past has a "villian" character. QC does seem to really be missing a character that readers love to hate because they actually do something to deserve that title. IMHO Dora hasn't done anything to deserve that particular title on her, yet it seems (IE - from months of reading things people have said about her) that she does indeed seem to be quite a few people's "villian").

Faye use to physically hit Marten, and admitted to his mother she knew she was hard on him even though he let her, a total stranger, move in with him after she accidentially burned her own apartment down. And really, it seemed he was only do that because 1. he's a doormat and 2. he was hoping it would lead to something else. Faye recognized her behavior and went to therapy and she's proclaimed a great person for it. Marten hasn't even admitted (that I can recall, help me out here) that he's basically a walking doormat, hasn't really done anything to change that and yet it's kind of thought of (and bitched about) as "whatever". And then Dora has issues, she doesn't deal with them, but she's a raging bitch and everything is her fault with her relationship with Marten? Last I checked it takes two. Marten could have easily said no to starting things off, though I doubt his doormatness would have let him. Dora is not without blame nor is she completely at fault, either.

Last I checked as well Dora was single from the time she was introduced until she began dating Marten. So perhaps close to, roughly about the same time that Marten was single from his last relationship? But yet it's called out that she needs to be single for awhile while Marten needs to get out more? When Marten has his own issues he hasn't even really acknowledged? Buh? It may seem like justification to some people, but in all honsety, this is how someone who reads, but doesn't participate in the day to day discussions sees the postings here. You love Hanners, Faye is a goddess and Dora can hop the next train out. And yes, I will completely admit that Dora is my favorite character - but I know she's done stupid things, acted out of line and needs help. I get frustrated with things other characters do and say but no where near to the point that some people seem to get about Dora. I usually get more entertainment out of the RAWR postings than I do from the comic.

And please, this is just my own view of things - I don't admit to knowing things better than anyone, nor am I saying anyone and everyone hates Dora, wah wah. Just thought I'd throw my opinion in the delightful mix of the forums.

So, um, yeah. Hi everyone. I'll, uh, I'll be over here in my corner now. Waaaaaaaaaay over here. With my construction helmet on. Don't mind me. ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Jun 2011, 04:06
Just be careful to distinguish hating Dora's behaviour at certain times from hating Dora as a character; one does not necessarily imply or lead to the other.

As for the business; although it's reasonably stable, there's not a lot of leeway either, as the arc when the coffee machine blew up showed.  It's not that falling out with Jim would break it, but that it would probably remove this welcome improvement.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 13 Jun 2011, 04:35
@ Atherius

I actually like Dora quite a bit as a character, I disagree with a lot of her actions and dislike plenty of them but I don't hate her. I'd also point out that plenty of people also dislike Steve, or Marigold, or Angus, or Faye or any number of other characters. As to why some get more 'hate' than others, it sort of depends on time and context. To be honest, I don't much like Steve, in the more recent comics he's been kind of a jerk to Marten, I am also not a big fan of Martens mother given how she acted after Dora dumped him.

I think I mentioned it a little earlier, I think some of the venom aimed at Dora is from people seeing Marten still being kicked by fate while Dora gets a new business opportunity, a date, etc. and seems to have had no real negative results from her choosing her neuroses over Marten. Some people may not like Dora as a character but I don't think that the forum is a big 'Hate Dora' thing, at least that isn't my view on it but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: tomart on 13 Jun 2011, 04:46
Considering that Jim himself admits that Dora's coffee is superior to his own, I don't see how losing some until-recent-good-sales of baked goods will jeopardize her business wise.

Maybe "just a date" is her way of trying to test the waters and see how she handles things.

Most comics that I read and that I've read in the past has a "villian" character. QC does seem to really be missing a character that readers love to hate because they actually do something to deserve that title. IMHO Dora hasn't done anything to deserve that particular title on her, yet it seems (IE - from months of reading things people have said about her) that she does indeed seem to be quite a few people's "villian").

So, um, yeah. Hi everyone. I'll, uh, I'll be over here in my corner now. Waaaaaaaaaay over here. With my construction helmet on. Don't mind me. ^_^

Hi, Atherius!  Welcome!     :-D

You make some good points, and I used to like Dora, too.  But over the long course of Dora-Marten, if you add up all the ugly-drama she's laid on our beloved hero (which some ambitious, devoted forumites have written out in sometimes vast detail, with annotated lists and links to all her crap) it's not a pretty picture.  I'm not gonna do any comprehensive justice here; I wonder if anyone else would care to link to any of those essays?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 13 Jun 2011, 05:05
Just to throw some fresh excrement into the rotary impeller...

I quite miffed that Jeph didn't choose to explore a fresh kind of relationship. Tai has been pining for Dora since BEFORE she and Marten broke up.

Hopefully, this fling with Jim will fail quickly and we can see more unique possibilites?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Boomslang on 13 Jun 2011, 05:08
I think the Dora-bashing would mostly go away if there was any sense she felt guilty. As it is, the consequences of her actions to other people barely seem to blip occasionally, let alone factor into her future decisions.

Aside from a brief moment of crying when Faye confronted her, she's had nothing but love and sympathy from the rest of the cast (including Marten's own mother), good things keep happening to her despite her screwups, and she is, by most measures, happier now that she's dumped Marten.

That seems wrong, somehow. I don't wish a lifetime of pain and suffering, but her current situation makes me envious more than it arouses sympathy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Welu on 13 Jun 2011, 05:26
I note that Dora is comparing Jim with a revisionist view of her past:
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No pussyfooting around the issue, no stupid drama.  It's a refreshing change of pace.

The way I read that, it sounds as if, in her mind, Dora is already turning the blame for the failure of her last relationship onto Marten, when actually it had been her  drama and her  setting of the pace.  I hope her therapist is good enough to be able to see through this.

That's how I read it also but going through the thread I can see in her mind how all the initial drama issues aren't there, with her having to deal with her own neuroses about Marten's feelings toward Faye. While her other problems are still there, she probably thinks because there's nothing right in her face to deal with, maybe she won't make the same mistakes. However Jim's shown himself to not have all his screws tightened with how he talked about his divorce.

She's like an alchoholic who's been sober for two months and thinks he's cured, so it's okay if he goes ahead and has that glass of scotch.

I agree with this.

I'm hoping this twists to just be Jim trying to get to know a business partner better but the way he asked doesn't suggest that.

Also on the subject of Faye giving relationship advice, just look at how far she has come. She's in the early-ish stages of a relationship, where she developed acquaintance with the guy first, they can wind each other up but also be having a genuine discussion at the same time (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1920). He's aware of her anxieties, of her anxieties (Marten filled him in moreso: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1426 which also shows he gets along with her circle of friends) and shown he's willing to help (but gets distracted by boobs: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1774), is (well, was  :-P) happy to be patient with her (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1854) and they're taking it at a relaxed pace. She's struggling a bit but she's doing well and chose to be with someone she's very compatible with. If anything, she's a great example of getting past personal issues and entering a healthy relationship.

Even if she wasn't, calling Dora on dealing with her issues is a good move.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: michael28 on 13 Jun 2011, 05:45
Maybe i didn't see it, but the time period between the breakup in the comic and the current strip was not that long or not? maybe 4 weeks?

Predictions:
at the party, nothing happens but another encounter of marigold with her archenemy, that guy seems to have contacts everywhere.
... eventually a little bit between marten or pintsize and raven :D

as for Dora: date, before that she walks across Marten when she's meeting Jim (if Marten doesn't get intel of that). Feeling guilty, sliping some of her flaws/problems tec. to Jim, which is still fed up from the BS of his divorce or trashtalks Marten for not putting up with her (which should have been happening at the latest in the 11XXs strips). Date ends with her paying the bill

... naturaly only if Jeph is more a god of justice to his world instead of drama  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: kent_eh on 13 Jun 2011, 06:17
Raven may have been thinking of the Baba Yaga movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069753/).

Back when I played a lot of D&D, I always wanted to have Baba Yaga's Hut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)#Artifacts).

Isn't there some reference to some of the QC characters being D&D nerds at some point in history?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: O8h7w on 13 Jun 2011, 06:20
Raven may have been thinking of the Baba Yaga movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069753/).

Back when I played a lot of D&D, I always wanted to have Baba Yaga's Hut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Yaga_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)#Artifacts).

Isn't there some reference to some of the QC characters being D&D nerds at some point in history?

Well, Marten was, back in high school IIRC. And I think Pintsize and his friends were playing something not quite unlike D&D.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: O8h7w on 13 Jun 2011, 06:46
Maybe i didn't see it, but the time period between the breakup in the comic and the current strip was not that long or not? maybe 4 weeks?

Since Marten stated that it has been weeks (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1861) what I estimate to be about 2 weeks back, and the same words again (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1907) somewhere early in the previous week from now, I say it's been 6 - 8 weeks since the breakup.

But I still say it hasn't been long, and the interesting point is that Dora and Marten haven't met after that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Jun 2011, 06:52
Marten's D&D days (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=134)
Raven plays D&D (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=963)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Jun 2011, 07:05
Not to mention that Jeph regularly plays D&D, as a Dragonborn Rogue, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 13 Jun 2011, 09:01
I used to play D&D but its hard to find a good group of people to play with.

I think its been close to if not exceeding a month since the break up.  I would think Marten and Dora would seek closure before they started dating again but perhaps Dora is used to dating jerks that she just moves right along.  I wish we could see her therapy session before something like this goes down but I am in total agreement with Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: grimeyville on 13 Jun 2011, 09:11
I used to play D&D but its hard to find a good group of people to play with.

I think its been close to if not exceeding a month since the break up.  I would think Marten and Dora would seek closure before they started dating again but perhaps Dora is used to dating jerks that she just moves right along.  I wish we could see her therapy session before something like this goes down but I am in total agreement with Faye.

You know, here's a thoughtful question. Did Marten turn into a jerk in the end of their relationship because Dora was so used to dating jerks that the nicest guy she ever dated, that she used her neurosis to subconsciously tear things down from the inside?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: dps on 13 Jun 2011, 09:15
No, Hanners is Dracula. She's the one who wanted Marten's blood (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1607).

Actually, to complete the classic trio with the characters in this particular strip, Raven would have to be Dracula.  If Hanners or anyone else gets into the act, they'd have to be the mummy.

After it gets to a quartet, we kind of run out of first-string classic movie monsters, and have to go to the B team.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Jun 2011, 09:23
You know, here's a thoughtful question. Did Marten turn into a jerk in the end of their relationship because Dora was so used to dating jerks that the nicest guy she ever dated, that she used her neurosis to subconsciously tear things down from the inside?

I don't think he turned into a jerk by the end of the relationship. I think its more he had reached the end of his tether, and that Marten had, for the first time in the comic, was actually incredibly angry and showing it.


And for the monster comments; Faye's Frankenstein, Dora's the werewolf, Raven's Baba Yaga, Pen-Pen is the mummy, sleep deprived Hanners is the ghoul (zombie for you ignorant types) and Cosette is Gillman (Black Lagoon, only clumsier, because, well, fish creature on land). Steve and Pintsize will probably think themselves to be the fearless Vampire Hunters while Marten is probably Jonathan Harkness while his exes can be Dracula's brides.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 13 Jun 2011, 09:27
I used to play D&D but its hard to find a good group of people to play with.

I think its been close to if not exceeding a month since the break up.  I would think Marten and Dora would seek closure before they started dating again but perhaps Dora is used to dating jerks that she just moves right along.  I wish we could see her therapy session before something like this goes down but I am in total agreement with Faye.

You know, here's a thoughtful question. Did Marten turn into a jerk in the end of their relationship because Dora was so used to dating jerks that the nicest guy she ever dated, that she used her neurosis to subconsciously tear things down from the inside?
No I dont think Marten turned into a jerk at all, its just that Dora is used to dating jerks and is handling this post break-up like her previous post break-ups.  Her neurosis put her on edge and made her always expect some sort of jerkery to happen.  Unknowingly she was the one doing the jerkery (then again during the break up conversation she did admit to it) and because of her neurosis she broke things up with marten.  We do not know how long she has been going to her therapist or how long since the break up exactly, but shes already "diving into the dating pool" and we have no indication on whether or not she has had any progress on her neurosis. Granted its just one date.  We will have to see how it goes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 13 Jun 2011, 10:36
You know, here's a thoughtful question. Did Marten turn into a jerk in the end of their relationship because Dora was so used to dating jerks that the nicest guy she ever dated, that she used her neurosis to subconsciously tear things down from the inside?

I don't think he turned into a jerk by the end of the relationship. I think its more he had reached the end of his tether, and that Marten had, for the first time in the comic, was actually incredibly angry and showing it.


And for the monster comments; Faye's Frankenstein, Dora's the werewolf, Raven's Baba Yaga, Pen-Pen is the mummy, sleep deprived Hanners is the ghoul (zombie for you ignorant types) and Cosette is Gillman (Black Lagoon, only clumsier, because, well, fish creature on land). Steve and Pintsize will probably think themselves to be the fearless Vampire Hunters while Marten is probably Jonathan Harker while his exes can be Dracula's brides.

Fixed it for you. 

Late 19th Century junior lawyer/vampire slayer, very little discernable personality/some dude in the Torchwood series with an excess of personality - I can see how you get them mixed up... :lol:

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Jun 2011, 10:47
Late 19th Century junior lawyer/vampire slayer, very little discernable personality/some dude in the Torchwood series with an excess of personality - I can see how you get them mixed up... :lol:

Never watched Torchwood so all I can say is "meh" and shrug my shoulders.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 13 Jun 2011, 10:54
Carry on then.

I don't see our characters here as the Power Trio of Universal's monster movies - something about them just doesn't ring the "monster belle" for me.

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blyss on 13 Jun 2011, 11:30
I'm really disappointed in how Dora's characterization is progressing.  The personality type is not one I care for at all. 

Let's see, I can't date you (Marten) anymore because of my issues.  However, I can date this other guy (Jim) or whoever else, if they ask, because, you know, it's just a date.

That is so much bullshit, I can't begin to explain it all.  Meh, needless to say, not happy with this current story arc at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 13 Jun 2011, 11:56
I don't particularly care for Dora's character, either, but come on. A single/first date is exactly that.

If she goes on multiple dates with Jim, then you might have some room to complain.

The only reason Marten isn't actually out dating, himself, is because he isn't attracting anyone right now being all mopy-as-fuck all the time. Dora may be deluded, but at least she's making an actual effort to move on (which is healthier than, you know, not).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TRVA123 on 13 Jun 2011, 12:06
I don't particularly care for Dora's character, either, but come on. A single/first date is exactly that.

If she goes on multiple dates with Jim, then you might have some room to complain.

The only reason Marten isn't actually out dating, himself, is because he isn't attracting anyone right now being all mopy-as-fuck all the time. Dora may be deluded, but at least she's making an actual effort to move on (which is healthier than, you know, not).

Moving on is not necessarily dating other people, you can move on by learning to be happy and single, which I honestly think would do both Dora and Marten some good.

Dora is once again taking steps to possibly be in a relationship. It would be one thing if she were on a Sven/Hanners type of fun date, but this isn't that. Dora's problems only seem to affect her seriously when she's in a relationship. Thus getting into a relationship before she has addressed those issues isn't healthy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: buchla265 on 13 Jun 2011, 12:38
While the "OMG OLDER MAN!" thing is typical for the age of the characters in QC, it is annoying.
Faye couldn't even come up with a decent reason for being creeped out.  :roll:

But hey, it's not my comic.  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Jun 2011, 13:08
When things started with Marten, there was "drama" in that she had Faye's feeling to contend with then and (in her mind) all throughout. I don't think she's blaming anyone, just stating the obvious.
Welcome, new person!

It's worth remembering that Marten himself admitted it was "drama" (strip 227). Dora may be frustrated still that Marten was turning down a relationship, not because he was in a real one, but because he was pining for the unattainable. She may think that Marten should have taken the initiative in strip 564.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Jun 2011, 13:35
Today's poll;

The dinner date...Someone will be bored.  5 (7.1%)
Dinner date will be pleasent enough, but nothing will happen.  11 (15.7%)
Nothing will happen? Pfft, yeah right!  15 (21.4%)
We won't see the date, it'll be Tai's "fun" party, minus Dora.  8 (11.4%)
Girls will fawn over Marten at the party.  8 (11.4%)
Raven will blurt out more secrets that don't concern her.  10 (14.3%)
Tai's eye will continue to twitch.  5 (7.1%)
There will be waffles...  8 (11.4%)


Total votes: 70
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 13 Jun 2011, 13:57
RE: Today's poll.

When you say "Universal QC Horror Film", is that a horror film starring everyone from QC or a horror film about QC/set in the QCverse produced by Universal Studios?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 13 Jun 2011, 14:34
You know, here's a thoughtful question. Did Marten turn into a jerk in the end of their relationship because Dora was so used to dating jerks that the nicest guy she ever dated, that she used her neurosis to subconsciously tear things down from the inside?
This question would be potentially thoughtful if it refered to at least one single example of Marten being a jerk to Dora. I can't think of any one case off the top of my head.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Jun 2011, 14:48
RE: Today's poll.

When you say "Universal QC Horror Film", is that a horror film starring everyone from QC or a horror film about QC/set in the QCverse produced by Universal Studios?

As in the "Classic Universal Monsters" QC-style, like the Lon Chaney Jr. Wolfman, Bela Lugosi Dracula, etc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 13 Jun 2011, 15:05
RE: Today's poll.

When you say "Universal QC Horror Film", is that a horror film starring everyone from QC or a horror film about QC/set in the QCverse produced by Universal Studios?

As in the "Classic Universal Monsters" QC-style, like the Lon Chaney Jr. Wolfman, Bela Lugosi Dracula, etc.
Ah. That's what I thought you meant. Carry on, then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 13 Jun 2011, 15:07
I'd rather them in their Hammer incarnations tho...

More cleavage.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 13 Jun 2011, 15:27
I'd rather them in their Hammer incarnations tho...

More cleavage.

I just like the fact that Grand Moff Tarkin is a monster hunter in them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: themacnut on 13 Jun 2011, 17:51
Odds are this first date with Dora and Jim, like most first dates, won't go anywhere. There's a good chance that Jim's issues around his divorce (something that messes many people up badly btw, I'll bet Jim's divorce is fairly recent, probably finalized less than a year ago) will come out during their date, probably in response to Dora asking a question about it. Then Dora may wisely decide she wants no part of any of that and makes it their last date.

Now if Jim manages to keep to together, or Dora decides to ignore the crazy that comes out, well, then we can start to worry...or laugh, 'cause Dora dating someone who's actually got it all together would be kinda boring. Drama, among other things, is good for laughs and generating many forum comments.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Jun 2011, 18:21
Never watched Torchwood so all I can say is "meh" and shrug my shoulders.

Torchwood in a nutshell. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqFFFgdo1Zc)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tova on 13 Jun 2011, 19:06
I'm really disappointed in how Dora's characterization is progressing.  The personality type is not one I care for at all. 

Let's see, I can't date you (Marten) anymore because of my issues.  However, I can date this other guy (Jim) or whoever else, if they ask, because, you know, it's just a date.

I daresay that Dora is, at least by now, primarily attributing her previous breakup to its external circumstances (i.e. "too soon after Marten's pursuit of Faye played itself out") and less so on her own deeply-entrenched issues. So she doesn't see any issue in dating someone entirely different. Even though there is a risk of Dora failing to find a healthy relationship, and, on top of that, a risk of Jim's own relationship baggage triggering just the same reactions that led to her previous breakup.

Basically, she is shying away from her problems, which is a fairly human thing to do, so I'm not going to hate her for that. She's attending therapy because she was told she had to, not because of any kind of motivation on Dora's part to resolve her problems. I don't think it works that way (I daresay her therapist is aware of the situation as well).

But hey, this might all work out for the best. If this date is the start of something that ends in tears, it might lead to Dora gaining a genuine desire to sort herself out.

edit: minor clarification
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Delator on 13 Jun 2011, 22:22
I note that Dora is comparing Jim with a revisionist view of her past:
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No pussyfooting around the issue, no stupid drama.  It's a refreshing change of pace.

The way I read that, it sounds as if, in her mind, Dora is already turning the blame for the failure of her last relationship onto Marten...

---

Just to throw some fresh excrement into the rotary impeller...

I quite miffed that Jeph didn't choose to explore a fresh kind of relationship. Tai has been pining for Dora since BEFORE she and Marten broke up.

Hopefully, this fling with Jim will fail quickly and we can see more unique possibilites?

---

...guys, TAI is the one doing the pussyfooting. *snicker*


That statement of Dora's likely had nothing at all to do with Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Cartagia on 13 Jun 2011, 22:39

I quite miffed that Jeph didn't choose to explore a fresh kind of relationship. Tai has been pining for Dora since BEFORE she and Marten broke up.

Hopefully, this fling with Jim will fail quickly and we can see more unique possibilites?


Dora, a highly independent, "in the scene," girl who has dated Alpha male goth assholes and Marten going on a date with an older, apparently well-to-do and successful business man is not unique?

Also, she didn't ask him.  He asked her.  That's not her rebounding and ignoring her issues, that is her seeing someone wholly different than anyone she has ever shown interest in (as far as we know), show interest in her.  The first thing she says on their date could very well be "I'm not really looking for anything, I just thought a date would be a nice change of pace after [THE BREAKUP]."

Also, does anyone else feel that Faye has been overstepping her bounds at work a bit too often lately?  I personally will not be surprised if she loses her job soon.  And her reaction to Jim has nothing to do with Jim.  It has to do with her knowing that Dora isn't ready for another relationship.  That, and she is a proxy for defending Marten's honor.  ("My friend isn't good enough, but this guy is?")
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Near Lurker on 13 Jun 2011, 22:54
Marten... get over yourself.  Sheesh.

Tai... suck it up.  You've got a damn harem, and 200 strips ago you were talking about how you'd never date an ex of a man you knew.  You'll get over it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 13 Jun 2011, 22:55
Damn, guess marten's not over her yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 13 Jun 2011, 22:56
My money's on it turning into friendship.

He'll crack first with "I thought I was ready to date again. What a fucking idiot."

Then she'll add to it, then they'll build a friendship which everyone else will miscontrue.

EDIT: poor little Marten. At least he has a partner in his pity party :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Cartagia on 13 Jun 2011, 23:04
Damn, guess marten's not over her yet.

Well, you can be over someone and still feel a pang of that "gloom" when you hear they are seeing someone new, be it from nostalgia or a bit of leftover jealousy.  I thought this was funny way to get the brooding over the situation out of the way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Jun 2011, 23:08
Dang!  :(

I can see these two getting smashed at the party
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Jun 2011, 23:11
Dang!  :(

I can see these two getting smashed at the party

And the ensuing shenanigans!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tova on 13 Jun 2011, 23:17
Dang!  :(

I can see these two getting smashed at the party

And the ensuing shenanigans!!

doooooooooooooooooooom
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: ChibiSoma on 13 Jun 2011, 23:28
Good to see Marten remains a giant wetnap who still wants his hateful bitch of a girlfriend back for... some fuckin' reason or another.

Yeah, I don't get it. Remove self from awful relationship -> Prosper. This does not work if you sit around pining for the past. Then again, this is QC, so they'll eventually get the hell back together. Because nothing unexpected can happen. Marty won't suddenly grow a pair of balls again and stay hooked up with someone else. He'll mope around and be a giant pussy and somehow defend Dora's honor with Creepy Rapey Bakery Guy tries to push her beyond her comfort zone or... whatever happens later in this story arc.

Meanwhile, Tai gets to be miserable. Remember, kids: Actually wanting to be with someone and trying to achieve this goal rarely works. I can only assume that while Dora is on her date with Mr. Lolipedo, Tai and Marten will be somewhere, drinking Depressios and bitching about Dora sucking.

Hey, I can dream.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: JackFaerie on 13 Jun 2011, 23:29
I think the Dora-bashing would mostly go away if there was any sense she felt guilty. As it is, the consequences of her actions to other people barely seem to blip occasionally, let alone factor into her future decisions.

Aside from a brief moment of crying when Faye confronted her, she's had nothing but love and sympathy from the rest of the cast (including Marten's own mother), good things keep happening to her despite her screwups, and she is, by most measures, happier now that she's dumped Marten.

That seems wrong, somehow. I don't wish a lifetime of pain and suffering, but her current situation makes me envious more than it arouses sympathy.


What the hell. Dora has not done anything over which she needs to feel GUILTY. Not far as the breakup goes anyway.

She was turning into a shitty girlfriend to Marten due to her insecurity, and constantly going off on him for no reason. While she was still dating him, that she should have felt bad about. But she didn't do anything wrong far as the actual break-up. She didn't cheat on Marten. She didn't dump him and then immediately hook up with Steve instead. She didn't dump him out of the blue and refuse to give him any explanation. She didn't break up with him via text message, or actively tried to treat him badly so that he had to break up with her. All she did was realize that the relationship wasn't working--for either of them--and ended it.

That is not something she needs to feel "guilty" about.

Yes, her issues were what mostly lead it to not working, although with another person they may not have manifested in the same way. But once she realized the relationship wasn't working because she was taking her issues out on Marten and ended the relationship, she doesn't owe anything more to him. Once she stopped inflicting her issues on Marten, that's it. She's done. She doesn't OWE it to Marten to be in a relationship with him, or to get herself into shape until she could be in a relationship with him. Would it be nice if she got her issues resolved? Sure. But it's not something she owes anyone but herself.

I am really confused by this idea that one isn't allowed to call off a relationship that they no longer feel is satisfying, or that they should feel like a horrible person for doing so. I still feel that if anything, Dora did Marten a favor by cutting the cord, because he wasn't going to do it himself, and he would have just let things deteriorate until it was absolutely miserable for everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Dust on 13 Jun 2011, 23:33
And for the monster comments; Faye's Frankenstein, Dora's the werewolf, Raven's Baba Yaga, Pen-Pen is the mummy, sleep deprived Hanners is the ghoul (zombie for you ignorant types) and Cosette is Gillman (Black Lagoon, only clumsier, because, well, fish creature on land). Steve and Pintsize will probably think themselves to be the fearless Vampire Hunters while Marten is probably Jonathan Harkness while his exes can be Dracula's brides.

Do later characters count as later monsters? Because Dale would be Candyman.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: St.Clair on 13 Jun 2011, 23:39
Poor Tai.*  Someone sniped her co-worker's ex before she could.


*not really.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: ZERO on 13 Jun 2011, 23:41
I want Marten's shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tova on 13 Jun 2011, 23:43
Good to see Marten remains a giant wetnap who still wants his hateful bitch of a girlfriend back for... some fuckin' reason or another.
(rant snipped)

The more unresolved bitterness and anger I see in the forum, the healthier the QC characters look.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 13 Jun 2011, 23:44
The more unresolved bitterness and anger I see in the forum, the healthier the QC characters look.
Haha dont you know Einstein ? :wink: Its all relative ! :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Akima on 14 Jun 2011, 00:39
The more unresolved bitterness and anger I see in the forum, the healthier the QC characters look.
I think this comment deserves some sort of prize.

Excellent visual humour in the current strip. I might not ever be able to think of gloom as anything other than a purple haze again. I especially like irony of Tai's four-leafed clover shirt. A pity I didn't notice it when she actually invited Dora to her party...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Jun 2011, 00:45
...purple haze...

Dunn dunn ddduuuunnnnn, dunn dunn dannnuuunnnnn.
Dunn dunn ddduuuunnnnn, dduuunn dduuunnn!


I'm sorry, what where we talking about?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: VonKleist on 14 Jun 2011, 00:55
Awww, I get all sympathetic over poor Marten and Tai. But I do hope they have a got time at the party and, you know, girls will be all over 'em :-D

I know Marty´s been kind of on the lookout for other girls but hasn't really been successful. But I think it was because it was the wrong setting and all, and a party with loads of college girls might be the place to actually get some flirting done and boost the old self-esteem  :-)



Also: "Youll think of me, and wonder where I am these days
Maybe somewhere down the road when somebody plays
Purple haze"
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Swedish Chef on 14 Jun 2011, 01:11
Dang!  :(

I can see these two getting smashed at the party

And the ensuing shenanigans!!

doooooooooooooooooooom


The orb of shame should hang around that party. At least we may expect Yelling Bird' "Birdy num num"

I'm unwilling to start a guessfeist about the Party, I'm giggling with anticipation though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 14 Jun 2011, 01:50
Marten: Receive dark tidings.

It's hard, Marten. Watching the girl you loved go on a date with Littlefinger.

It's hard and no one understands.

(Except Tai.

And the readership! Speaking of them.....)


Forums: Do an acrobatic motherfucking pirouette off the proverbial handle.

You are executing a goddamn triple lutz off the handle. You are doing an Olympic gold medal routine off that handle that will be in the record books for ages.

This is all the fault of some huge bitch!


Dora: Be the huge bitch.

Bluh bluh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 14 Jun 2011, 02:07
Entirely off topic here but:

Dragonborn.

Hssssssss.  :x

---

My apologies. Please continue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: BluishJeans on 14 Jun 2011, 02:27
Really, why does Marten have about the same taste in clothes as me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Jun 2011, 02:27
...purple haze...

Dunn dunn ddduuuunnnnn, dunn dunn dannnuuunnnnn.
Dunn dunn ddduuuunnnnn, dduuunn dduuunnn!


I'm sorry, what where we talking about?

'Deep Purple' not 'Purple Haze', you idiot!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 02:55
If the cloud over their heads gets any heavier, there'll be Purple Rain...

Hey, I've just decided what to listen to when walking the dog this afternoon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Jun 2011, 03:06
'Deep Purple' not 'Purple Haze', you idiot!

So, what's 'Purple Haze' then?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 03:10
Google knows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_Haze)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 14 Jun 2011, 03:15
Bring on Gary, you know he's going to be making an appearance soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: VonKleist on 14 Jun 2011, 03:29
'Deep Purple' not 'Purple Haze', you idiot!

So, what's 'Purple Haze' then?

Originally it was the type of LSD some guy brewed for Woodstock or the Grateful Dead or something. Google it. Jimmy Hendrix supposedly named his song after taking a hit and then shit got mixed up and it became a name for a certain type of marijuana, i think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 14 Jun 2011, 03:34
Is akronnick's account used by 2 people?

I am intensely confused.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 03:44
Originally it was the type of LSD some guy brewed for Woodstock or the Grateful Dead or something.

Actually, as it came from a pharmaceutical company:

Quote from: Wikipedia
The term "purple haze" has been used to refer to LSD, due to the form sold by Sandoz, called Delysid, which came in purple capsules.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Jun 2011, 03:46
Is akronnick's account used by 2 people?

I am intensely confused.

 :psyduck:

No, just me, castigating myself for being a musical moron rather than simply deleting the post and not talking about it ever again. :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DeathbyChiasmus on 14 Jun 2011, 03:58
Marten, is that shirt really appropriate for the library?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: VonKleist on 14 Jun 2011, 04:27
Originally it was the type of LSD some guy brewed for Woodstock or the Grateful Dead or something.

Actually, as it came from a pharmaceutical company:

Quote from: Wikipedia
The term "purple haze" has been used to refer to LSD, due to the form sold by Sandoz, called Delysid, which came in purple capsules.

I stand corrected. I thought I´d read something about Owsley Stanley having something to do with it but i was wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jun 2011, 04:29
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 14 Jun 2011, 04:31
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: guayec on 14 Jun 2011, 04:37
Marten... get over yourself.  Sheesh.

It's been two months. Two months. I think is fair to expect a looong recovery (I can be wrong, I'm not a QC-master, but I think Marten and Dora were together for at least 2 years? You don't just 'get over' that easily).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 14 Jun 2011, 04:47
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.

Don't forget fine BBC and ITV programming.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 05:07
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.

Medicines, petrol products, engines and alcohol, actually. But yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 05:18
In the years around 1980 I was selling my software for medical imaging around the world (Europe, USA, SA, Aus, Japan); got me a bit of travel, too.  That came to an end, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: HiFranc on 14 Jun 2011, 06:00
[...]

It's been two months. Two months. I think is fair to expect a looong recovery (I can be wrong, I'm not a QC-master, but I think Marten and Dora were together for at least 2 years? You don't just 'get over' that easily).

I agree with you in general.  However, my best estimate of their time dating is 15-18 months.

Apologies to those who've read my reasoning before but here it why I say that:

They started dating whilst it was still cold (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=563). They spent the summer together (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=635).  They were still dating in that winter (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1387)  and it had got warm again before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1736) they broke up (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1799).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: rje on 14 Jun 2011, 06:04
Awf man that is a kick in the teeth.
You can be so well adjusted and moved on but the first time you hear your ex is going out with someone else, it can really feel like someone stepped on your neck.
Hell, when I saw, three years later, that an ex (that had abruptly dumped me when I still loved him) had gotten married it seriously did give me a -hhgh- feeling for a second.
Can't fault Marten here.

oh man how are we gonna follow the party AND the date?!?
I call for split screen shenanigans
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 06:08
Awf man that is a kick in the teeth.
You can be so well adjusted and moved on but the first time you hear your ex is going out with someone else, it can really feel like someone stepped on your neck.
Hell, when I saw, three years later, that an ex (that had abruptly dumped me when I still loved him) had gotten married it seriously did give me a -hhgh- feeling for a second.
Can't fault Marten here.

oh man how are we gonna follow the party AND the date?!?
I call for split screen shenanigans


Like the *Sigh* comic, but with different backgrounds.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: jacjyd on 14 Jun 2011, 07:28
I'm really disappointed in how Dora's characterization is progressing.  The personality type is not one I care for at all. 

Let's see, I can't date you (Marten) anymore because of my issues.  However, I can date this other guy (Jim) or whoever else, if they ask, because, you know, it's just a date.

That is so much bullshit, I can't begin to explain it all.  Meh, needless to say, not happy with this current story arc at all.

At first I was like, "yeah, she's being unfair!" but then I realized that...nah a date really is just a date. It's well within a part of single life, if you so choose. Relationships in the sense of having any interaction with someone, but without any need for commitment or thoughts of the future.  Dora's issues were more jealousy long term issues...I'm sure if it gets there with Jim they'll come back out.

Plus she was probably just toos hocked to say no.  And maybe at the time it seemed like the best way to keep the pastries coming! =P
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 07:38
Plus she was probably just toos hocked to say no.  And maybe at the time it seemed like the best way to keep the pastries coming! =P

The Secret is in the sauce?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: themacnut on 14 Jun 2011, 07:58

I know Marty´s been kind of on the lookout for other girls but hasn't really been successful. But I think it was because it was the wrong setting and all, and a party with loads of college girls might be the place to actually get some flirting done and boost the old self-esteem  :-)


Watch Marten be so depressed that he either doesn't go to the party at all, or goes but spends the whole time moping in a corner. That's assuming Tai doesn't cancel the party altogether.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Jun 2011, 08:39
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 14 Jun 2011, 08:41
Yeah, I don't get it. Remove self from awful relationship -> Prosper.

It seems to me like Marten was removed from the relationship by Dora, not himself, which, in my experience, is much harder.

Then again, this is QC, so they'll eventually get the hell back together. Because nothing unexpected can happen.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1425

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1406

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1932

Plus the one with the tiny flying Roombas.


RE: Today's poll.

When you say "Universal QC Horror Film", is that a horror film starring everyone from QC or a horror film about QC/set in the QCverse produced by Universal Studios?

As in the "Classic Universal Monsters" QC-style, like the Lon Chaney Jr. Wolfman, Bela Lugosi Dracula, etc.

Oh man, that line in "Werewolves of London" finally makes sense now!

...well, sort of.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 14 Jun 2011, 08:55
I weep for your lack of knowledge of the classics.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Jun 2011, 09:18
I weep for your lack of knowledge of the classics.
Be gentle on the young one. His youth speaks too loudly.

*offers his shoulder to Border Reiver*
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blyss on 14 Jun 2011, 10:10
This is actually putting me off quite a bit, and I realize it's because of me, and not the strip.  I may actually stop reading this now.
 :|
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Welu on 14 Jun 2011, 10:44
Man, every time Marten shows up and still has those bags under his eyes it makes me feel a little sad. Adding the purple GLOOOOOOOOOM doesn't help much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 14 Jun 2011, 11:11
Some cartoonists (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/6/10/) use lines like that as part of the normal face, so Jeph might just have got into the habit rather than being specifically showing him continually miserable.  I guess we'll see, sometime.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 14 Jun 2011, 11:13
Man, every time Marten shows up and still has those bags under his eyes it makes me feel a little sad. Adding the purple GLOOOOOOOOOM doesn't help much.

Counterpoint: Brock Sampson (http://www.adultswim.com/americaloveslists/vb_brockbeatdowns/) has them pretty much all the time and that dude is kicking ass and getting laid everywhere he goes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Jun 2011, 11:47
There will be angst

And cheap, meaningless sex



(At the party you filthy minded apes)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Jun 2011, 12:20
Monday's results;

Creeper dates are the best dates!  3 (4.3%)
Why is Jim a Creeper? He just is!  5 (7.2%)
No Pussyfooting - its a turn on for some.  5 (7.2%)
Dora’s new skill – juggling her issues.  8 (11.6%)
“Its just one full moon. What’s the harm in that?”  17 (24.6%)
Universal QC Horror film, coming 2012!  3 (4.3%)
Never change Raven, nevermore.  25 (36.2%)
We need more C.o.D. wall art!  3 (4.3%)


Total: 69 votes
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 14 Jun 2011, 12:39
I suddenly just realized the resembelance of Tai to  Arnold from The Magic School Bus  (http://www.google.com/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&q=Arnold%20the%20magic%20school%20bus&sa=N#i=4)

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 14 Jun 2011, 12:42
I suddenly just realized the resembelance of Tai to  Arnold from The Magic School Bus  (http://www.google.com/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&q=Arnold%20the%20magic%20school%20bus&sa=N#i=4)


and now it cant be unseen...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 14 Jun 2011, 12:46
Tai wishes she could have stayed home today :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 14 Jun 2011, 13:01
Tai wishes she could have stayed home today :(
or stopped eating those carrots covered in seaweed...seaweedies?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 14 Jun 2011, 13:18
I wouldn't be surprised if Marten goes back to the bourbon, to be honest.

I am surprised that the strongest thing he felt was gloom, rather than a strict punch to a gut. His reaction seems more "well, that sucks", rather than "UGH, OUCH." That would personally be my reaction.

Overall, Dora ends one relationship because of her trust issues, and now she's going to jump into a date. If that one has any success whatsoever, it completely makes her fallout with Marten worthless.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 14 Jun 2011, 13:26
or stopped eating those carrots covered in seaweed...seaweedies?

A+ LeeC!

Oh god. I almost forgot about Orange Arnold. That makes this connection a million times better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: guayec on 14 Jun 2011, 13:55
Marten's reaction seems so bland. That plus Dora's attitude make me feel them both out of character. I know they're not my characters, but still... I'm not liking this new QC 'season'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Jun 2011, 14:02
Marten's reaction seems so bland. That plus Dora's attitude make me feel them both out of character.

It isn't out of character for Marten. Its more like; "Well, I'm doing ok, I think, moving on as best I can. Whats that? Dora is going out with someone el-....*Punch the gut with a kick thrown in*"

Remember, the comic moves in its own time, and Marten has to move at his own pace for getting over things. I think its natural for someone to feel like that when an ex starts dating again, so soon after the breakup, which they initated.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 14 Jun 2011, 14:20
I suddenly just realized the resembelance of Tai to  Arnold from The Magic School Bus  (http://www.google.com/m/search?site=images&source=mog&hl=en&gl=us&client=safari&q=Arnold%20the%20magic%20school%20bus&sa=N#i=4)
Wouldn't it technically be Arnold's annoying sister....what'shernameagain?.....that Tai resembles?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 14 Jun 2011, 14:24
I weep for your lack of knowledge of the classics.
Be gentle on the young one. His youth speaks too loudly.

*offers his shoulder to Border Reiver*

Hey!  I have just about every Warren Zevon album, and none of them are downloaded either!

...I get almost all of my music knowledge/preference from my dad.  I think that you and I would basically agree on matters of musical taste.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Watched Pot on 14 Jun 2011, 14:54
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jun 2011, 15:11
Tai wishes she could have stayed home today :(
It's her day off!  She's not even supposed to be here today!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Jun 2011, 15:30
Tai wishes she could have stayed home today :(
It's her day off!  She's not even supposed to be here today!

Would you want to be left alone after having your hopes crushed by your crush's loudmouth employee?


Also, I imagine the dorm might be pretty crowded seeing as its the end of the college year.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 14 Jun 2011, 15:34

Would you want to be left alone after having your hopes crushed by your crush's loudmouth employee?


Also, I imagine the dorm might be pretty crowded seeing as its the end of the college year.

I was referencing Arnold's trademark "I knew I should have stayed home today" from The Magic School Bus. I guess the joke failed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Jun 2011, 15:43
I was referencing Arnold's trademark "I knew I should have stayed home today" from The Magic School Bus. I guess the joke failed.

Yeaaaaah, looked it up on Wikipedia, and I think I'm too old to have seen it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jun 2011, 15:44
To the possibility of Tai canceling the party, I'm pretty sure it's not hers (or at least not hers alone) to cancel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 14 Jun 2011, 16:05
The party is most definitely going to happen. Roof's will be raised, then set on fire, rumps will be shaking, and people will get low.

Tai has told college students about the party, it's going to happen whether or not she's ready.

P.S. TheEvilDog, I'm sorry you missed out on such a fun show. Yeah the voices are high pitched, but they crammed a lot of stuff in one episode AND kept it entertaining. WHY IS PBS SOOOO GOOD?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Jun 2011, 16:07
To the possibility of Tai canceling the party, I'm pretty sure it's not hers (or at least not hers alone) to cancel.

Like someone said last week, getting the party sorted before inviting your crush, was a huge mistake and just begging for the plan to be ruined very, very quickly.

++edit++ Well that was the wrong word to emphasize. Anyway, its fixed
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 14 Jun 2011, 16:41

Would you want to be left alone after having your hopes crushed by your crush's loudmouth employee?


Also, I imagine the dorm might be pretty crowded seeing as its the end of the college year.

I was referencing Arnold's trademark "I knew I should have stayed home today" from The Magic School Bus. I guess the joke failed.

For what it's worth, I got it and laughed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 14 Jun 2011, 17:01
Thanks TheDuke! :mrgreen:

Back there someone mentioned Janet as a better Doppelganger, which I have to agree with.

Here's a QC related question, is Marigold coming to the party? They ARE friends now. Tai, Marten, and Marigold can be melancholy together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Akima on 14 Jun 2011, 17:45
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.
Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.
At least you've stopped exporting opium...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 14 Jun 2011, 18:17
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.

Our four chief exports: Oppression, rock music, Doctor Who, silly walks and a fanatical devotion to the Queen... oh bugger...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 14 Jun 2011, 19:25
But not cheese. The cheese shop has none, sir.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cesariojpn on 14 Jun 2011, 20:19
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.

Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.

Our four chief exports: Oppression, rock music, Doctor Who, silly walks and a fanatical devotion to the Queen... oh bugger...

Yeah, thank you for export George Orwell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 14 Jun 2011, 20:32
Exported some Puritans a few hundred years back. Started a whole mess, that did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Near Lurker on 14 Jun 2011, 21:03
Marmite.  Can't forget Marmite.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Skewbrow on 14 Jun 2011, 21:30
But not cheese. The cheese shop has none, sir.

but... but I like cheddar
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Jun 2011, 23:27
Marmite.  Can't forget Marmite.

Yeah, and the Warrants are still out for the inventor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cesariojpn on 14 Jun 2011, 23:50
Exported some Puritans a few hundred years back. Started a whole mess, that did.

But they gave us Blackadder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Near Lurker on 15 Jun 2011, 00:17
One month later, Raven is eaten by an espressosaurus.  It will be very sad.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tergon on 15 Jun 2011, 00:21
When Raven first reappeared, I predicted that she would use quantum physics to summon fresh coffee for CoD using her newly-upgraded brain.

FUCKING.  CALLED.  IT. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,26804.msg1041433.html#msg1041433)

The most random, stupid prediction ever, and I was god-damned right.  Yes.  YES.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 15 Jun 2011, 00:27
Hooray Tergon!

Imagine if Raven hooks up ALL of the espressosaurs to do that...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Jun 2011, 00:27
Next on Questionable Content:


Agents Lucsley and Dulmer from the Bureau of Temporal Affairs will visit Coffee of Doom while Captain Janeway has, through the astute offices of Seven of Nine and B'Elanna Torres have followed the Expressosaurus back to trace the source of the amasing Coffee now available on Voyager.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 15 Jun 2011, 00:29
 :-o

Er, isn't the dude who commissioned Faye for the thing gonna be coming back soon? She'll have to give him the espressosaurus rex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Dust on 15 Jun 2011, 00:34
:-o

Er, isn't the dude who commissioned Faye for the thing gonna be coming back soon? She'll have to give him the espressosaurus rex.

Wasn't there a prototype version?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 15 Jun 2011, 00:36
Raven for the win !
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Jun 2011, 00:39
How many people can boast of having a time machine in their gallery?

Well, the answer to that is "lots and lots", but how many can say it truthfully?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: MightionNY on 15 Jun 2011, 00:41
It would be hilarious if in 26.8 hours (give or take), the expressosaurus does in fact reappear with said coffee.

C'mon, Mr. Jacques, you know you want to :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: lunakitten on 15 Jun 2011, 00:41
I know jeph wasn't thrilled with it, but I have to say that cracked me up, and I don't often laugh out loud at a webcomic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: 0kamisama on 15 Jun 2011, 00:56
1.21 Caffeine-awatts! Great Scott!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 15 Jun 2011, 01:02
1.21 Caffeine-awatts! Great Scott!

Whao, Doc, this is heavy!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: CompSarge on 15 Jun 2011, 01:24
It would be hilarious if in 26.8 hours (give or take), the expressosaurus does in fact reappear with said coffee.

C'mon, Mr. Jacques, you know you want to :)

Of course, given the normal pace of this comic, 26.8 hours QC time will probably occur sometime in August.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 15 Jun 2011, 02:06
My fear is that Raven miscalculated and soon their world will be overrun by coffee blooded robot dinosaurs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 15 Jun 2011, 02:16
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.
Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.
At least you've stopped exporting opium...

Actually, we mostly imported that. From our oppressed colon... I mean wonderful allies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: guayec on 15 Jun 2011, 03:59
It isn't out of character for Marten. Its more like; "Well, I'm doing ok, I think, moving on as best I can. Whats that? Dora is going out with someone el-....*Punch the gut with a kick thrown in*"

Remember, the comic moves in its own time, and Marten has to move at his own pace for getting over things. I think its natural for someone to feel like that when an ex starts dating again, so soon after the breakup, which they initated.

That was precisely my point. To me it didn't look as strong a reaction. I wasn't expecting tears, but something more intense (more in the lines of what you described). So I guess is just my perception.  :-)

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2011, 04:27
Exported some Puritans a few hundred years back. Started a whole mess, that did.
And I'll never forgive you for that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Eternal_Newbie on 15 Jun 2011, 04:47
At least you've stopped exporting opium...
Actually, we mostly imported that. From our oppressed colon... I mean wonderful allies.
Read about the Opium Wars. Short version. China politely asked the British East India Company to stop exporting so much Opium into China from India. British East India Company said fuck you, China impounded a few boatloads, Britain invaded.

The British East India Company specialising in being official government approved arseholes is also one of the reasons for the USA.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 15 Jun 2011, 04:57
It would be hilarious if in 26.8 hours (give or take), the expressosaurus does in fact reappear with said coffee.

C'mon, Mr. Jacques, you know you want to :)

Of course, given the normal pace of this comic, 26.8 hours QC time will probably occur sometime in August.

Of 2012
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 15 Jun 2011, 05:06
I think our beloved, Mr. Jacques miscalculated slightly, if he was going for the Back To The Future reference.

The number of seconds Raven quotes is 1.11994212963 days, not 1.21.

Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.

The spot the espressosourus left will be 6,350 miles further along its orbit around the sun and 43.179 degrees out-of-phase because of the Earth's rotation.

The puts it in orbit over Chicago when it returns.

As you can tell, I'm not much of a Raven fan.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Bloo on 15 Jun 2011, 05:16
Erm, just to let you guys know.

http://www.the-whiteboard.com/index.html

Holy FUCKING shit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 15 Jun 2011, 05:23
That was quick!

N.B.: the link above will point to the wrong strip tomorrow, making history strange; at that point the correct link will be this (http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autotwb1379.html),  which, however, will not work until then!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 15 Jun 2011, 05:40
OK, now that we have a crossover to compensate (imperfectly,one hopes) for the orbital mechanics mike837go brought up, my vote is for espressosaurus 2 reappearing:
A) at Tai's party
B) at Dora and Jim's whatever-dinner (JUST ABOVE somebody's bowl of soup)

... Perhaps the end result will be a new CoD-TSB coffee delivery system. Order your coffee at tSB and a dinosaur appears. A day or so later.

Other possibilities come to mind ... "many-worlds" of them, in fact. Go nuts, fellow forumites ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: guayec on 15 Jun 2011, 05:48
Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.

There's one short tale by Asimov that addresses that issue. I can't remember the title, but a couple of time-travelers go so far back (or forward, I don't recall) in time that the Earth (hel, the hole Solar System) is not even there.

EDIT: Still can't fin it. But there's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel#Time_travel_or_space-time_travel
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 15 Jun 2011, 06:15
Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.

Actually,  (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitleuvmtqrxe?from=Main.BellisariosMaxim)they  (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt)have. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool)

The most plausible real-world time travel technique is to create a worm hole through space time. Compared to that, programming the time machine to compensate for the Earth's many motions (the Earth's orbit and rotation is peanuts compared to the Sun's motion through the galaxy, for example) would be child's play.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Black Sword on 15 Jun 2011, 06:25
....so the ditziest character in the strip is now armed with quantum physics for her hijinks.

....oh dear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 15 Jun 2011, 06:49
At least you've stopped exporting opium...
And you started excepting other exports but silver (and opium).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 15 Jun 2011, 06:49
....so the ditziest character in the strip is now armed with quantum physics for her hijinks.

....oh dear.

My fear would be more if Pintsize learned of this...imagine for a moment him with time travel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Sahugani on 15 Jun 2011, 06:53
I think our beloved, Mr. Jacques miscalculated slightly, if he was going for the Back To The Future reference.

The number of seconds Raven quotes is 1.11994212963 days, not 1.21.

Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.

The spot the espressosourus left will be 6,350 miles further along its orbit around the sun and 43.179 degrees out-of-phase because of the Earth's rotation.

The puts it in orbit over Chicago when it returns.

As you can tell, I'm not much of a Raven fan.

Nah you're not factoring in earth's gravity. Should stay right were is was :P Of course I'm no astrophysicist and time travel will always make my brain hurt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 15 Jun 2011, 07:18
At least you've stopped exporting opium...
Actually, we mostly imported that. From our oppressed colon... I mean wonderful allies.
Read about the Opium Wars. Short version. China politely asked the British East India Company to stop exporting so much Opium into China from India. British East India Company said fuck you, China impounded a few boatloads, Britain invaded.

The British East India Company specialising in being official government approved arseholes is also one of the reasons for the USA.

I know, but there's colonial exports and there's British exports, I was refering to the later. Using the former, the British Empire has traded in damn near everything that existed between the 1800's and WWI.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 15 Jun 2011, 07:51
I think our beloved, Mr. Jacques miscalculated slightly, if he was going for the Back To The Future reference.

The number of seconds Raven quotes is 1.11994212963 days, not 1.21.

Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.

The spot the espressosourus left will be 6,350 miles further along its orbit around the sun and 43.179 degrees out-of-phase because of the Earth's rotation.

The puts it in orbit over Chicago when it returns.

As you can tell, I'm not much of a Raven fan.

Nah you're not factoring in earth's gravity. Should stay right were is was :P Of course I'm no astrophysicist and time travel will always make my brain hurt.

Earth's gravity is no longer a factor when you're opening a wormhole through time and space (during the journey itself). If you put the exit in the wrong area of space (even if you get the right Time correct) you could still easily end up falling from an orbital position relative to Earth (where gravity would take over again).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Black Sword on 15 Jun 2011, 07:52
....so the ditziest character in the strip is now armed with quantum physics for her hijinks.

....oh dear.

My fear would be more if Pintsize learned of this...imagine for a moment him with time travel.

The space-time continuum just crapped itself in terror.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Thiefree on 15 Jun 2011, 07:54
That's so Rav- *soul turns inside out from horror*
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2011, 08:02
It would be hilarious if in 26.8 hours (give or take), the expressosaurus does in fact reappear with said coffee.

C'mon, Mr. Jacques, you know you want to :)

Of course, given the normal pace of this comic, 26.8 hours QC time will probably occur sometime in August.

Of 2012
...of the Sixth Age.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 15 Jun 2011, 09:17
That's so Raven.

That's so Rav- *soul turns inside out from horror*

I want both of you to die.



(jk I did giggle a little  :wink:)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Doctor Online on 15 Jun 2011, 10:46

I know, but there's colonial exports and there's British exports, I was refering to the later. Using the former, the British Empire has traded in damn near everything that existed between the 1800's and WWI.

Totally unrelated to anything you said, but... Wheel of Time. Yayyyy. <3
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kamendae on 15 Jun 2011, 11:09
Erm, just to let you guys know.

http://www.the-whiteboard.com/index.html

Holy FUCKING shit.

Damn, I got beat to the punch.  Just came to post that very thing :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 15 Jun 2011, 11:11
That's so Raven.
That's so Rav- *soul turns inside out from horror*
I want both of you to die.

Would it help if I said I died a little inside, then a lot after the second pun? Because its true y'know. I gots no soulz!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: YourMaster on 15 Jun 2011, 11:37
Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.

The spot the espressosourus left will be 6,350 miles further along its orbit around the sun and 43.179 degrees out-of-phase because of the Earth's rotation.

As you can tell, I'm not much of a Raven fan.

All motion is relative.  I can think of reasons for the espressosaurus to move in lockstep with Earth.  If that doesn't happen, I can't think of any reason for the espressosaurus to be at the same position in orbit relative to the sun, and the same position relative to the earth's surface (for the phase bit).  Momentum and gravitational acceleration keep us in the same position relative to Earth.  Mess with one of those and you don't just get out of phase, your position goes entirely wacky.  There's no such thing as absolute 0 momentum, just a relative 0, but you can talk about absolute 0 gravity.

Quote from: Tiogyr
Earth's gravity is no longer a factor when you're opening a wormhole through time and space (during the journey itself).

I don't see any evidence that this is wormhole-based time travel, but if it were then Earth's gravity would absolutely be a factor, since wormholes are physical things which themselves travel through time in the normal fashion that we are doing right now, and they are subject to both gravity and momentum.  A wormhole end generated at the coffee of doom (or wherever Raven got it from) has every reason to still be on Earth the next day.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that position is overlooked or elided all the time in time travel stories.  But most statements about where something should come out just replace geocentrism for heliocentrism, which in the context of people using time travel technology is still a hopelessly outdated model.

I do like Raven stories.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 15 Jun 2011, 11:51
I for one welcome our new mad scientist coffee shop worker.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2011, 11:52
She's hardly new...and she was always quite mad, and at least a little sciencey.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 15 Jun 2011, 12:06
She's hardly new...and she was always quite mad, and at least a little sciencey.
Well, she HAS been gone for a while and gotten a slight touch-up. Plus, in terms of the pecking order, she's back at the rookie level technically.

I tried to make a joke there but it seems to have faceplanted so hard it died. :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2011, 13:22
Not at all!  I just like using the word "sciencey".
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 15 Jun 2011, 14:47
Poll results;

Glooooom...  10 (17.5%)
Don't forget the Dooooom...  5 (8.8%)
Libraries… Kinda depressing.  2 (3.5%)
Lucky Four Leaf Clover T-shirt? Not so lucky now.  6 (10.5%)
Gary Fucking Numan.  10 (17.5%)
Purple Haze? Jimi would be proud!  12 (21.1%)
Time to upgrade Pintsize. Is the laser still around?  7 (12.3%)
Surprise diners at the restaurant on Friday!  5 (8.8%)

 
Total votes:57
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Thiefree on 15 Jun 2011, 15:33
Why is Raven like my writing desk?
Because both are still really unstable however many books you use.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 15 Jun 2011, 15:56
Why is Raven like my writing desk?
Because both are still really unstable however many books you use.

Win.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Jun 2011, 19:26
That's some serious $%#@.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 15 Jun 2011, 19:27
The Star Trek option in the poll has a typo in it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 15 Jun 2011, 19:45
The Star Trek option in the poll has a typo in it.

I noticed it and fixed it. If no one objects, I will use the obligitory "goddamn it!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 15 Jun 2011, 19:47
The Star Trek option in the poll has a typo in it.
I noticed it and fixed it. If no one objects, I will use the obligitory "goddamn it!"
Have you seen some of the people here?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cuzsis on 15 Jun 2011, 20:01
It would be hilarious if in 26.8 hours (give or take), the expressosaurus does in fact reappear with said coffee.

C'mon, Mr. Jacques, you know you want to :)

Of course, given the normal pace of this comic, 26.8 hours QC time will probably occur sometime in August.

Of 2012
...of the Sixth Age.

 LOL! Thanks for the laugh!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tova on 15 Jun 2011, 20:04
Erm, just to let you guys know.

http://www.the-whiteboard.com/index.html

Holy FUCKING shit.

That's the best crossover I've ever seen.

... I guess there's going to be a grumpy customer wondering what happened to their can of diet cherry soda.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Nentuaby on 15 Jun 2011, 21:39
Erm, just to let you guys know.

http://www.the-whiteboard.com/index.html

Holy FUCKING shit.

That's the best crossover I've ever seen.

... I guess there's going to be a grumpy customer wondering what happened to their can of diet cherry soda.


http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2011/06/13/this-was-a-triumph/
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Sorflakne on 15 Jun 2011, 22:31
So the dinosaur will reappear in a little over 67 days comic-time...so we can expect to see it return sometime in early 2013 in real-time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Dust on 15 Jun 2011, 23:47
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.
Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.
At least you've stopped exporting opium...

Actually, we mostly imported that. From our oppressed colon... I mean wonderful allies.

So the British invented drug mules? Who knew?  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: RefD on 16 Jun 2011, 00:09
oppressed colon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 16 Jun 2011, 00:39
oppressed colon.

Now now, don't get your bowels in an uprising.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Dreyden on 16 Jun 2011, 00:56
Are...are they stalking Marten?

Those Bros must have a radar or something :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: guayec on 16 Jun 2011, 00:59
Those Bros must have a radar or something :psyduck:

a brodar!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Jun 2011, 01:06
The incantation: "bros" raises them from some nether region - you cannot evade them!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 Jun 2011, 01:11
I'm pretty sure I've met these three.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: ysth on 16 Jun 2011, 01:12
Whaaaa?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: J on 16 Jun 2011, 01:26
Erm, just to let you guys know.

http://www.the-whiteboard.com/index.html

Holy FUCKING shit.

That's the best crossover I've ever seen.

... I guess there's going to be a grumpy customer wondering what happened to their can of diet cherry soda.


http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2011/06/13/this-was-a-triumph/

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 16 Jun 2011, 01:29
oppressed colon.

That's British food for you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: BluishJeans on 16 Jun 2011, 01:30
Are...are they stalking Marten?

Those Bros must have a radar or something :psyduck:
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering why they're in the Smif library. What's those Bros business there?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Jun 2011, 02:14
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering why they're in the Smif library. What's those Bros business there?
The tachion radiation of Ravens brotosaurus attracted them.

/end{star-trek-techno-babble}
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Jun 2011, 02:27
So apparently Gary Numan's some British singer.
Ah yes, our only exports, oppression and rock music.
And Doctor Who.
Three! Our three chief exports: oppression, rock music, Doctor Who and silly walks....are amongst our chief exports....hold on, I'll come in again.
At least you've stopped exporting opium...

Actually, we mostly imported that. From our oppressed colon... I mean wonderful allies.

So the British invented drug mules? Who knew?  :wink:
For the record, you cannot grow Opium plants in Britain ...

And again: the main reason why the British exported Opium to China is simply because the Chinese decided they would only accept silver as import, while the Chinese had many nice things the British wanted and not enough silver for all that.

So yeah, it was another consequence of Chinas "the rest of the world is nothing but barbarism anyway" attitude.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Delator on 16 Jun 2011, 04:23
I think my favorite Bro is probably No-Hat-Bro.

...I don't like hats.  :|
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Blackjoker on 16 Jun 2011, 04:26
Hmm, Marten or Steve saying 'Bros' summons them, similar to how a letter or call from Bad Horse summons his trio.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 16 Jun 2011, 04:40
So can Marten or Steve summon the "bro"ntosaurus?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: rje on 16 Jun 2011, 04:42
Hmm, Marten or Steve saying 'Bros' summons them, similar to how a letter or call from Bad Horse summons his trio.

Does that mean they're going to break out into song any minute?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 16 Jun 2011, 05:08
Also, one of the really buggery problems in time travel, that no fiction has yet to really deal with, is the fact that the Earth is moving through space.
For what you said to even have any meaning, there would have to exist some sort of absolute frame of reference.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 16 Jun 2011, 05:22
How about the point in space where the Big Bang occured?

Every particle of matter is moving away from there at various velocities.

EDIT:
Actually you don't need an absolute point of reference since everything is relative anyway.

It IS generally accepted that the Earth is spinning on its axis, the Earth is in orbit around the Sun, the Solar System is orbiting around the center of the Milky Way Galaxie, and our galaxie is moving away from the point of the Big Bang.

Therefore, unless the time-traveling object has and keeps ALL of its current momentum, it can not possibly return to the exact same place in space.

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: ChicagoTed on 16 Jun 2011, 05:23

Quote
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering why they're in the Smif library. What's those Bros business there?

Picking up chicks?  Err, I mean, picking up sorostitutes?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Jun 2011, 06:01

Quote
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering why they're in the Smif library. What's those Bros business there?

Picking up chicks?  Err, I mean, picking up sorostitutes?

Nah, they're there for the party... a couple of days early... and in the wrong place...

Hell, there has to be a party somewhere, sometime.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 16 Jun 2011, 06:16
[Jimmy Buffet] It's 5'oclock somewhere! [/Jimmy Buffet]
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Black Sword on 16 Jun 2011, 06:32
I have no idea why, but I love this comic. Especially the ssssshhhhh. No hat bro is the best bro, because he looks like a regular bro.

Also, when was the first time they appeared?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Thiefree on 16 Jun 2011, 06:41
YAAAY library bros  :-D I don't know why I love these guys so much. Favourite recurring gag, for sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Jun 2011, 06:41
when was the first time they appeared?

Quite recently (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1862)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: grimeyville on 16 Jun 2011, 06:46
Hmm, Marten actually speaking up of how he feels? That's... Growth right?

...


Right...?

...

Right?

...

RIGHT?!

...

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Jun 2011, 07:03
How about the point in space where the Big Bang occured?

No problem !

*points in all directions*

There you have it !

(At the big bang, all space was in one point ... so the point of the big bang then then is everwhere today. So yeah, any point in todays universe is the point where the big bang occured)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 16 Jun 2011, 07:29
Can't help but think all the "Should she or shouldn't she?" people and "Marten is a (various forms of saying wuss)" people ... Got served today.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Jun 2011, 07:32
Anyone notice that "chunky bro" kinda looks like Jeph, only with less piercings and longer hair?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 16 Jun 2011, 07:43
He did say Chunky Bro might be his favorite. Wonder what it says that Stubble Bro and No Hat Bro shushed him?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Welu on 16 Jun 2011, 07:50
I like Chunky Bro because of his eagerness but something about Pink-shirt Bro's expression in the third panels rubs me the right way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 16 Jun 2011, 07:58
Heheheheh for some reason I'm so happy to see those guys again. They are just that kind of extras that are so damn cool if used right.
They must have some very happy lives :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 16 Jun 2011, 08:19
Today's comic was hilarious.

That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Odzs on 16 Jun 2011, 09:31
I've always been content with lurking. Forever. I only really came here to check reactions to the current comic and to see if there's anything I may have glossed over. A few times I've wanted to register, but I held off.

The Return of the Bros forced me to do it. My favourite's Hatless Bro.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 16 Jun 2011, 10:05
What would be cool is this: The Bros are never seen to enter or leave. They are just THERE, and then not. Even better is if there is no way they could have gotten in or out ... And this is never explained. Or even wondered at, in-universe. Ever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 16 Jun 2011, 10:18
That would be awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Jun 2011, 10:36
Wonder what it says that Stubble Bro and No Hat Bro shushed him?

That they were in a library....
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Heliphyneau on 16 Jun 2011, 10:44
Are...are they stalking Marten?

Those Bros must have a radar or something :psyduck:

Brodar.

*nods sagely*
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Dust on 16 Jun 2011, 11:02
Are...are they stalking Marten?

Those Bros must have a radar or something :psyduck:

Brodar.

*nods sagely*

It appears to be sound-based, I'm going with Bronar.

As for why they're there: They're Bros. They Broam the countryside, looking for adventure. (The Riders of Brohan?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 16 Jun 2011, 11:03
[The Doors] Riders Of The Storm [/The Doors]
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 16 Jun 2011, 11:12
Nope, the 'camera' was panned left without relocating.

Tai never encountered them before. Marten is the 'experianced' one here.

**Total Speculation alert**

Could this be a defining moment in Marten & Tai's new level of relationship?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Black Sword on 16 Jun 2011, 12:02
when was the first time they appeared?

Quite recently (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1862)

Ah, there they are! Thank you, Paul.

Hm. Chunky Bro grew a goatee. Or maybe... IT'S CHUNKY BRO'S EVIL TWIN FROM AN ALTERNATE DIMENSION!

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Jun 2011, 12:15
Poll results;

Raven – The kid who likes to touch everything!...  3 (5.7%)
Yay – More EspressoSaurus!  4 (7.5%)
The EspressoSaurus….She Cannae take any more, Captain!  17 (32.1%)
Faye is going back to the future...building a new artpiece.  2 (3.8%)
Dumbfounded Faye? Call the national news!!!  2 (3.8%)
Raven, amazing rack and serves amazing espresso.  13 (24.5%)
Dora is not going to like the scorch marks.  9 (17%)
She won’t care, coz its date time. 3 (5.7%)
 

Total votes: 53
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 12:56
IT'S CHUNKY BRO'S EVIL BRO FROM AN ALTERNATE BROMENSION!
Fixed your brost.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 16 Jun 2011, 12:58
So, tomorrow is birthday filler. Any bets on what Yelling Bird does this time?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 13:01
As long as Randy's there, I'm happy (although I would settle for Shebly or maybe even the Shame Orb).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 16 Jun 2011, 13:03
As long as Randy's there, I'm happy (although I would settle for Shebly or maybe even the Shame Orb).
Shelby may still be in mourning over the Canucks. Like the rest of Vancouver is. Well, the citizens who DIDN'T get arrested for starting riots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 13:06
Shelby
Dude, no.  Shelby's the real life dog, Shebly is the character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 16 Jun 2011, 13:07
Today's comic was hilarious.

That is all.

Seconded
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 16 Jun 2011, 13:13
Shelby
Dude, no.  Shelby's the real life dog, Shebly is the character.
*cough*
SHEBLY might be in mourning like the rest of Vancouver that didn't get arrested last night.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 13:19
Hey, can someone find the comic where Jeph is talking to Shebly?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 16 Jun 2011, 13:20
Hey, can someone find the comic where Jeph is talking to Shebly?
I believe it's on his Tumblr. Somewhere.

[edit] *Doink* http://jephjacques.tumblr.com/post/5643814551/sorry-about-that
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Smerf on 16 Jun 2011, 14:38
Personally, I've gotta go with Hatless Bro.  I'd go with Bro McStubble, but I refuse to support douchey collar-popping.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 16 Jun 2011, 14:59
I'm no expert on perspective, but... shouldn't the bookcase behind Marten and Tai in the first two panels still be visible in the last two?

Nope, the 'camera' was panned left without relocating.


Looking strictly at the desk, I would say the camera zoomed out and then rotated roughly 60 degrees counter-clockwise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mary tyler murder on 16 Jun 2011, 16:05
bros: still bros

Tai: still awful
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 17:46
Why?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 16 Jun 2011, 18:07
wait, if Tai and Marten are bros...and both single...then they can go on the prowl together as wing-persons!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 18:14
Marten: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave you met Tai?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Jun 2011, 18:15
Marten: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave you met Tai?

Tai walks off with the girl. Marten is left alone.

Great idea folks :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: St.Clair on 16 Jun 2011, 18:24
Still not cool, but honest about it, at least.  I guess that's something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Akima on 16 Jun 2011, 18:52
What would be cool is this: The Bros are never seen to enter or leave. They are just THERE, and then not. Even better is if there is no way they could have gotten in or out ... And this is never explained. Or even wondered at, in-universe. Ever.
The Bros are the QC equivalent of the chorus in Ancient Greek theatre. They are just there, and the players pay them no attention, regardless of how incongruous they might be. In a library, on a womens' college campus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2011, 19:28
Nah, they're clearly noticed.  Although, they go to UMass, and there's the whole five college thing, so it's not too odd that they're there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 16 Jun 2011, 20:16
Salmon-pink-polo-shirt-bro is best bro.

Friday's comic will tie the week together with the brontosaurus phasing back into existence in front of Marten and Tai.
[nitpick]Brontosaurus is not the correct term. The correct term is Apatosaurus.[/nitpick]

Considering it has been nearly 26.878611111111113 hours (yes that's what the number of seconds Raven calculated out was, in case you were wondering), Jeph...might do that. It all depends on what goes on in his head and when his flight to Calgary is (i.e., how much sleep he needs).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 16 Jun 2011, 20:50
Still not cool, but honest about it, at least.  I guess that's something.
Give her points for feeling shitty about it, at least.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 16 Jun 2011, 21:08
Marten: Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave you met Tai?

That would be legend - wait for it...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 16 Jun 2011, 21:08
- dary.  Legendary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 16 Jun 2011, 21:55
Happy fucking birthday, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 16 Jun 2011, 21:55
(comic pedantry)
The alimentation of apatosaurus not yet having been worked out my modern authorities, I move the name brontosaurus be reserved for small metallic dinosaurs that process groind coffee and heated water whilst traversing space-time. If it will insist on accompaning its disappearance with a sudden sonic event, the name "thunder lizard" ("brontosaurus" in English) is appropriate anyway.
(/comic pedantry)

Also,  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cat_rant on 16 Jun 2011, 22:25
Hope Jeph has an awesome Barfday. Was yesterday technically a bros before hoes themed comic? I think the dinosaur espresso machine looks more like the Lough Ness monster. Could it be a nessypresso machine? =p  ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Skewbrow on 16 Jun 2011, 22:27
Happy b-day, Jeph! You're still now in your prime! so am I, my prime is just a bit largerducks and covers from people who loathe bad math puns
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 16 Jun 2011, 22:31
(comic pedantry)
The alimentation of apatosaurus not yet having been worked out my modern authorities, I move the name brontosaurus be reserved for small metallic dinosaurs that process groind coffee and heated water whilst traversing space-time. If it will insist on accompaning its disappearance with a sudden sonic event, the name "thunder lizard" ("brontosaurus" in English) is appropriate anyway.
(/comic pedantry)

Also,  :mrgreen:

Y'know, I think I'll just have a soda...
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 Jun 2011, 22:38
Nah, they're clearly noticed.  Although, they go to UMass, and there's the whole five college thing, so it's not too odd that they're there.

That was my first thought, too, but then I remembered that this is the UMass library:

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4396/duboislibrary.jpg)

Plus a separate three-story science library behind that tower to the library's right.  Yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: J on 16 Jun 2011, 22:47
Are...are they stalking Marten?

Those Bros must have a radar or something :psyduck:
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering why they're in the Smif library. What's those Bros business there?

what, bros aint allowed to read?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Kugai on 16 Jun 2011, 23:19
Happy frakin' Burpday Jeph.

Just don't fall off that damned mountain peak - be a frakin' waste of good booze.   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: rje on 16 Jun 2011, 23:20
Holy shitecakes Jeph's my age?
I thought he was like
26 at the most, for some reason

well hell, I suddenly feel a whole lot better about life
...I have no idea why .3.;
but HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN anyways
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 Jun 2011, 23:30
Holy shitecakes Jeph's my age?
I thought he was like
26 at the most, for some reason

I think I'd be more surprised if I hadn't found this comic at age 15.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: iduguphergrave on 16 Jun 2011, 23:31
Holy shitecakes Jeph's my age?
I thought he was like
26 at the most, for some reason

well hell, I suddenly feel a whole lot better about life
...I have no idea why .3.;
but HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN anyways

Those were terrible haikus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: hannahsaurusrex on 16 Jun 2011, 23:51
Happy birthday, Jeph!

I reallllly love his self portait, I think it might be the gameface accentuated with bear teeth.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: musicalsoul on 17 Jun 2011, 00:02
Happy Birthday Jeph!

Also, why does it seem like today is everyone's birthday?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: snubnose on 17 Jun 2011, 00:19
"Happy birthday to you ..." *sings*

I have to admit, todays comic is kind of substandard. More like it would look if I would have made it. *tries to keep a straight face*


P.s.: Err, on second thought, it would be MUCH worse than that. MUCH MUCH MUCH worse ... :|
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: cyro on 17 Jun 2011, 00:20
[The Doors] Riders Of The Storm [/The Doors]


*On.

ON.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DudeBroGuy on 17 Jun 2011, 00:28
Happy Birthday, Jeff!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 17 Jun 2011, 03:24
Can't help but think all the "Should she or shouldn't she?" people and "Marten is a (various forms of saying wuss)" people ... Got served today.

Nothing that has happened contradicts the notion of Marten being a wuss, so... you're going to have to explain this one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: BryanP on 17 Jun 2011, 04:06
A) Happy Birthday.

B) You're not old.  You've got 5 more years until you're old.  At 36 you can legally date women half your age.

Me, I'm really old.  At 42 I can buy them drinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Border Reiver on 17 Jun 2011, 04:17
Y'know, I think I'll just have a soda...

Might as well -

Nobody hurts,

Nobody dies

all apologies to Kim Mitchell
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tanksenior on 17 Jun 2011, 04:33
Congratulations Jeph, happy fucking birthday :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tova on 17 Jun 2011, 04:49
Happy birthday, Jeph.

And a brief word, from experience... 31 really is very young, but you won't really realise that until you turn 41.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: mike837go on 17 Jun 2011, 04:51
A) Happy Birthday.

B) You're not old.  You've got 5 more years until you're old.  At 36 you can legally date women half your age.

Me, I'm really old.  At 42 I can buy them drinks.

Just wait until you're 50, like me and women 1/2 your age are working on their second kid!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Jun 2011, 04:58
My second kid (third when you count in the stepchild) was born when I was 25 and my wife was 24.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 17 Jun 2011, 05:03
You've always been above average, pw.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Jun 2011, 05:52
Quick, some call Marilyn Munroe, get her to sing Happy Birthday to Jeph!

Oh...wait...It might be a bare bones performance.

Happy Birthday Jeph! I'm glad I'm still in my twenties.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: kent_eh on 17 Jun 2011, 06:24
(http://dragonfire1.50megs.com/Boynton/images/mugs/bmug095.jpg)

Also, Strat with a bridge humbucker? Nice guitar dude!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Jun 2011, 07:30
You're still now in your prime!
Splendid pun!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: DSL on 17 Jun 2011, 08:06
Can't help but think all the "Should she or shouldn't she?" people and "Marten is a (various forms of saying wuss)" people ... Got served today.

Nothing that has happened contradicts the notion of Marten being a wuss, so... you're going to have to explain this one.

Marten was honest in a nondestructive way about what he thought and felt, faced the reality of not having a say in the matter, and in the end chose, not to sulk, but to reassure Tai of their friendship. That takes no small amount of maturity ... and a spine.

EDIT: Happy Birthday, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: SirDudley on 17 Jun 2011, 08:46
And now, a short list of people who also have birthdays today besides Jeph (thanks to Wikipedia).

Newt Gingrich
Barry Manilow
George S. Clinton
Jon Gries
Greg Kinnear
Eric Stefani
Sebastian White
Venus Williams

Also, happy birthday Jeph. You wonderful cornucopia of madness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: The Duke on 17 Jun 2011, 09:36
Happy birthday Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: celticgeek on 17 Jun 2011, 09:59
Jeph:  Sláinte ar do lá breithe!

An ceol go maith.

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tiogyr on 17 Jun 2011, 10:56
Can't help but think all the "Should she or shouldn't she?" people and "Marten is a (various forms of saying wuss)" people ... Got served today.

Nothing that has happened contradicts the notion of Marten being a wuss, so... you're going to have to explain this one.

Marten was honest in a nondestructive way about what he thought and felt, faced the reality of not having a say in the matter, and in the end chose, not to sulk, but to reassure Tai of their friendship. That takes no small amount of maturity ... and a spine.

EDIT: Happy Birthday, Jeph.

Maturity yes, but "spine" has no real application at all in the strip you were talking about (in the typical "meeting aggressive behavior head-on and facing it down" meaning, or "fuck you, I'm not going to let you bully me around" sense).
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Jun 2011, 10:59
Maturity yes, but "spine" has no real application at all in the strip you were talking about (in the typical "meeting aggressive behavior head-on and facing it down" meaning, or "fuck you, I'm not going to let you bully me around" sense).

Although one could see it as he had a chance to gloat over Tai being rejected, but chose not to, instead to comfort her. Which shows a certain amount of spinal structure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: LeeC on 17 Jun 2011, 14:26
I wonder if Jeph ever thought about getting into animation.  Not with QC but just in general.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Jun 2011, 14:48
Poll Results;

The penny drops for Tai…  3 (4.8%)
Gary Fucking Numan Again!  1 (1.6%)
Straight Guy Lesbian Girl Hug…D’awww  13 (21%)
BROS! [SSSH!]  7 (11.3%)
Bros Bros Bros Bros  32 (51.6%)
Chunky Bro Forever!  1 (1.6%)
Roll on the Birthday Filler  2 (3.2%)
We need more waffles. MOAR I TELLS YA!  3 (4.8%)
 
Total votes - 62.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 17 Jun 2011, 18:19
Jeph:  Sláinte ar do lá breithe!

An ceol go maith.
Hey, I can go celtic too.

Deiz ha bloaz laouen, Jeph, hag yec'hed mad dit.


EDIT: typo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2011, 18:58
Google translate doesn't like that one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Jun 2011, 19:09
Thats either Welsh, or Scots Gaelic.

And for the record, what Celticgeek wrote was Gaelige. So nice to see the mother language being spoken. Reminds me of home.....oh wait, I'm already there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 18 Jun 2011, 02:44
It's Breton, actually.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Tova on 18 Jun 2011, 04:53
It's Breton, actually.

Happy birthday, Jeph, and I wish you good health? Something like that?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 18 Jun 2011, 06:04
It's Breton, actually.

What does an Elder Scrolls race have to do with Jeph's birthday? (http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/info/race2)  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Akima on 18 Jun 2011, 07:58
生日快乐杰夫
   万寿无疆


(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2011, 08:22
Google Translate says "Happy Birthday, Jeff". "Jeff" is capitalized, so Google Translate knew it was a proper name. How do you represent a non-Chinese name in Chinese? If it's phonetic, how did GT know it was a name?
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 18 Jun 2011, 15:40
It's Breton, actually.
Happy birthday, Jeph, and I wish you good health? Something like that?
Yeah, that's about right. The second part is the typical cheering (as in around drinks) phrase in Breton.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Akima on 18 Jun 2011, 18:10
Google Translate says "Happy Birthday, Jeff". "Jeff" is capitalized, so Google Translate knew it was a proper name. How do you represent a non-Chinese name in Chinese? If it's phonetic, how did GT know it was a name?
I don't know about the specific mechanism used by Google Translate (GT), but as I said in a previous post (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25025.msg961775.html#msg961775) Chinese characters (hanzi) cannot always be read correctly in isolation. The hanzi that make up 杰夫 (Jié​fū) do have a number of individual meanings depending on context but are a combination that GT has obviously been programmed to recognise.

GT does have a huge problem with identifying names in Chinese, but it is, if anything, more a problem with Chinese names (especially surnames) than Western ones. This is because Chinese names are are made up of fewer hanzi than the phonetic representations of Western names, so it is more difficult for GT to pick them out. For example, the Chinese surname 黑 (Hēi) also means "black" or "dark", so GT translates 黑嘉嘉 (Hēi Jiājiā) as "black Jiajia" or sometimes even "black fine" instead of recognising correctly the name of the Australian-born professional weiqi player. Only prominent Chinese people like 周恩来 (Mao Zedong) can count on having the combination of hanzi in their name recognised by GT.

In general terms, Western names are written in hanzi that sound to the Chinese ear like the syllables of the name when spoken aloud. Normally the hanzi for common given names are chosen from among the many homophones in Chinese so that their meaning is somewhat complimentary. For example many hanzi could have been chosen to sound like "Jeff", "Geoff", or "Jeph" but 杰夫 translate as "distinguished man". Less common given names, surnames, and place names are handled more pragmatically:

巴拉克奥巴马 = Bā​lā​kè Ào​bā​mǎ (Barak Obama, remember that ke is pronounced "kuh").
乔治布什 = Qiáo​zhì Bù​shí (George Bush, remember that Q is pronounced "Ch",  zhi is roughly "juh", and shi is "shuh").
澳大利亚 = Ào​dà​lì​yà (Australia)
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: doviende on 18 Jun 2011, 23:54
He's not that old, he's still a hexadecimal (i.e. base-16 numbers) teenager.
31 = 16 + 15, so that's written as "1F" in hexadecimal. So he's still "eff-teen". Next year he'll be 32, which is 16+16, so written as 20 in hexadecimal.
 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: akronnick on 19 Jun 2011, 00:31
But then he doesn't get to drink Hexadecimal alcohol for another year.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: slingstone on 19 Jun 2011, 02:00
(http://www.inwap.com/mf/reboot/episodes/images/21hex.jpg)

That's the best kind of alcohol!
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 19 Jun 2011, 12:37
Next year he'll be 32
And a bit older.
OMG! You win a nerd cred!
It ashames me that it took me three readings to get what you did.
Well played, really.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: wrwight on 19 Jun 2011, 15:43
wow, I didn't even get it until just now. Well played indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2011, 19:32
If Schmorgluck hadn't pointed out that there was something to get, I would've missed it.  Well done.
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Skewbrow on 21 Jun 2011, 23:48
If we really get into that, then I'm afraid I have some bad news for Jeph. He will never again be able to truthfully say that all the numbers coprime to and less than his age (obviously also greater than 1) are primes themselves. :evil:

Edit: Thanks Andy147 - my brain outran the fingers. At least you were able to read my mind  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 13th-17th June (1946-1950)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jun 2011, 12:17
Math is delicious!