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Title: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Nov 2011, 03:32
Another week, another poll, another fun-filled episode of - THE WEEKLY COMIC DISCUSSION THREAD!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 06 Nov 2011, 03:51
+1, or one internet, or whatever the prize is for the phrase, "aural sex."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 06 Nov 2011, 04:01
Wow, getting an early start this week.

I hope we don't have anymore interuptions.

Not sure what I would do if I had another unexpected disruption of our regularly scheduled programming.




What? I can stop any time! I just don't want to!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 06 Nov 2011, 04:59
+1, or one internet, or whatever the prize is for the phrase, "aural sex."

That might make Marten nostalgic (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1574)...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Nov 2011, 05:42
So, can we safely remark Tai/Subwoofer shipping?  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Nov 2011, 05:53
That runs a lot deeper  than any relationship...

 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 06 Nov 2011, 06:03
Would you portmanteau that as "Twoofer?"
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 06 Nov 2011, 06:20
Actually I was hoping for more SNOWWW DOGGG
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 06 Nov 2011, 08:03
+1, or one internet, or whatever the prize is for the phrase, "aural sex."

That might make Marten nostalgic (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1574)...

I dunno, that looks more ex-otic to me ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 06 Nov 2011, 08:25
Dora was just a modern gal...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Nov 2011, 10:19
Tai's use of a computer brings up an obvious question:  How smart are "normal" personal computers in the QC 'verse?  Are any of them equivalent of an AnthroPC?  Just imagine Tai ending up having an argument with her PC about what tracks they should play.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Nov 2011, 10:26
Considering she's using Ableton Live music sequencing software, I don't think laptops and PC's are much different in the QC universe than they are in the real world.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Nov 2011, 11:49
Then again, AnthroPCs can be put in standard PC towers (Pintsize was put in one when his chassis was damaged, I think by chocolate).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: celticgeek on 06 Nov 2011, 11:54
Backing Up Pintsize (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=59#)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Nov 2011, 13:36
That was via a USB connection, though. That's where there's a difference between our towers/laptops and QC universe ones.

Of course, you'd have to wonder how you backup a machine with 1 TByte of capacity on ANY tower or laptop - unless cloud computing is a lot easier in the QC universe.

Which, I suspect, Jeph didn't even think about when he did that whole Pintsize vs. Cake Mix arc back in 2003...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Nov 2011, 14:28
What's so special about terabytes now? I just bought a Spinpoint F4 worth two.
Seriously, QC-verse computing is significantly advanced compared to ours; a desktop with multi-terabyte drives 'only' seven years before ours is not that much of a stretch I think.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Nov 2011, 14:48
Well, how much disk space did Momo say she had again? About 97 TeraBytes?

Could a PC from 2003 have that much, or was only the "personality" uploaded to Marten's PC?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 06 Nov 2011, 15:30
How Jeph pictures Hannelore as a guitar. D'awww (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/toonehanners.png). :D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Nov 2011, 15:33
Ha, I was expecting something very different due to your post.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 06 Nov 2011, 15:41
I could make a very bad "playing with herself" joke... so I will. :evil:


(The most recent Q&A asked what the QC characters would be if they were guitars, and Jeph decided to draw the answer for Hannelore)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Nov 2011, 16:41
How Jeph pictures Hannelore as a guitar. D'awww (http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/toonehanners.png). :D

Looks like a cross between a Klein and a Teuffel Tesla. http://www.teuffel.com/english/guitars/tesla/tesla_main.htm
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Nov 2011, 17:39
Whatever amount of storage it's economical to put in an AnthroPC is presumably equally economical in a desktop computer. The QC world seems to be ahead of ours in storage affordability.
Title: RAM is storage too, right?
Post by: Sidhekin on 06 Nov 2011, 17:50
And still Pintsize and Winslow only get 512MB and 1GB, respectively ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Nov 2011, 18:05
That's RAM, not storage. And apparently there are reasons beyond simple numerical superiority that make adding more, to an APC at least, inadviseable. Plus I would expect to find some sort of semi-fast store, like a SSD or something, as an intermediate between RAM and whatever long-term media they use.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: bhtooefr on 06 Nov 2011, 18:54
I'm guessing that Pintsize and Winslow use relatively slow hard drives.

Likely 2.5" 12.5 or 17.5 mm thick drives, 5400 RPM. Based on the rough age of their respective chassis, I'd guess somewhere in the 80-250 GB ballpark in the real world, but given that Momo's old chassis has 97 TB... then again, Momo isn't necessarily representative of what Pintsize and Winslow can do.

So, the low RAM constraint keeps them hitting swap often. That'll keep the processing speed of the AI process down, if it's waiting for the HDD all the time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Nov 2011, 19:37
Well, how much disk space did Momo say she had again? About 97 TeraBytes?

Could a PC from 2003 have that much, or was only the "personality" uploaded to Marten's PC?

I imagine he didn't bother to back up all Pintsize's porn... that would save a lot  of space! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Nov 2011, 20:30
Whatever amount of storage it's economical to put in an AnthroPC is presumably equally economical in a desktop computer. The QC world seems to be ahead of ours in storage affordability.

So, QC is like Japan right now. They can pretty much do anything with their cellphones (even buy stuff from vending machines just by showing their screens), while here in the good USA, we're just getting acquainted with IR codes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sylentknight on 06 Nov 2011, 21:00
There is a bit of a stir over in Blip Comic http://blipcomic.com/1016/ about a certain unidentified character reminding everyone of our resident male lead.
Of course this has created all sorts of fan-boy/girl excitement about the two universes connecting. Of course it's not...I don't think...because Marten didn't work in a library in California. However, I will admit it would be amusing. And while the character of Mary would probably create quite a stir at the COD (no pun intended), the anthroPCs might recognize her as one of their own (but way more advanced). It boggles the mind to think how much Mary's "chassis" would cost in the QC universe.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Nov 2011, 21:09
There is a bit of a stir over in Blip Comic http://blipcomic.com/1016/ about a certain unidentified character reminding everyone of our resident male lead.
Of course this has created all sorts of fan-boy/girl excitement about the two universes connecting. Of course it's not...I don't think...because Marten didn't work in a library in California. However, I will admit it would be amusing. And while the character of Mary would probably create quite a stir at the COD (no pun intended), the anthroPCs might recognize her as one of their own (but way more advanced). It boggles the mind to think how much Mary's "chassis" would cost in the QC universe.  :laugh:

Why is Ruika stalking someone? Confused.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Nov 2011, 22:05
Wow, he really does  look like Marten, from the blue eyes to the stylishly unkempt hair and the way he's dressed - although the TEH shirt (or an indie band t-shirt) would have clinched it! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: KingofHearts on 06 Nov 2011, 23:12
Wow, he really does  look like Marten, from the blue eyes to the stylishly unkempt hair and the way he's dressed - although the TEH shirt (or an indie band t-shirt) would have clinched it! 

I know that is freaky. Anyway I'm going to go out on a limb and assume this Hann first orgasm.
Title: Re: RAM is storage too, right?
Post by: snubnose on 07 Nov 2011, 00:11
And still Pintsize and Winslow only get 512MB and 1GB, respectively ...
That was before the ... how was it called ? Singularity.

They probably have much more memory now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 01:22
By the way, the "Hey, did you just feel something?" comment was for everyone who experienced that little temblor there in middle America on Sunday.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Nov 2011, 01:31
Comic:

Alcoholic procrastination...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 07 Nov 2011, 01:34
Barkeep: Here you go: two apple-tinis...freak.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 01:38
I suspect Marty just ordered two Pan-Galactic Gargleblasters.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 01:50
Am I seeing Dora in panel 3?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 01:54
Am I seeing Dora in panel 3?

Panel 2B, I take it? No, that's DEFINITELY not her. Too wide of a mouth.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Welu on 07 Nov 2011, 01:57
I suspect Marty just ordered two Pan-Galactic Gargleblasters.

Don't know why but this made my morning.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: shlominus on 07 Nov 2011, 02:02
2 vodka enemas?!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: CompSarge on 07 Nov 2011, 02:10
I suspect Marty just ordered two Pan-Galactic Gargleblasters.

Alright, who ordered the lemon-wrapped bricks? *smash*
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: AquaNinja on 07 Nov 2011, 02:24
I'm my mind I like to think he ordered some Everclear.
Thas what happened to me last time I drank it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 07 Nov 2011, 02:27
The title was amusing... that would be me.

And the perspective in this comic was, I thought, pretty cool.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 07 Nov 2011, 03:29
"Drink... but... very carefully..."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: bhtooefr on 07 Nov 2011, 03:38
I still want to try this Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster variant: http://lookoutofanywindow.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-pan-galactic-gargle-blaster.html

I'm pretty sure it'll induce vomiting, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Nov 2011, 03:46
SAVE YOURSELLLLVessss.....
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 04:00
Am I seeing Dora in panel 3?

Panel 2B, I take it? No, that's DEFINITELY not her. Too wide of a mouth.

Some long lost sister born as a lovechild? Getting stoned does lead to some memory loss.....
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Somebody on 07 Nov 2011, 04:17
Faye's smashed. Marten's about to get smasheder.

This cannot end well.

I suspect Marty just ordered two Pan-Galactic Gargleblasters.
Ah, good, not just me.

Although has he checked what voluntary organisations exist to help him rehabilitate? :p
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Nov 2011, 04:25
Barkeep: Here you go: two apple-tinis...freak.
Easy on the -tini?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 07 Nov 2011, 05:03
No, we won't take it easy on that abomination.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Nov 2011, 05:54
Marten, if you get too drunk to dance I will be so mad!  :x

On the other hand, unless its everclear or bacardi 151, those two drinks might loosen him up and make him want to dance like a fool.

Take it easy now, Marty.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 07 Nov 2011, 05:55
I take it Marten REALLY does NOT want to dance.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Nov 2011, 05:59
Faye's smashed. Marten's about to get smasheder.

This cannot end well.


Faye might actually be sober at this point.  She doesn't seem to have any "drunk bubbles" floating around her.

Speaking of characters in the background, is that Charlotte the AnthroPC standing behind Marten in a couple of panels?  Hair's the right colour, hairstyle is sort of right, but it could be a guy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TheEvilDog on 07 Nov 2011, 06:02
Faye might actually be sober at this point.  She doesn't seem to have any "drunk bubbles" floating around her.

My guess is she's still going to have a headache tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 06:39
Marten, if you get too drunk to dance I will be so mad!  :x

Liquid Courage!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Nov 2011, 07:10
Liquid rhythm...

Marten may well be a truly terrible dancer, and needs to lower his inhibitions enough to actually go out there and even attempt it. 



Poor sod. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 07 Nov 2011, 07:34
I'm getting Event Horizon flashbacks here...

Liberate tute me ex inferis. ... *shudder*
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 07 Nov 2011, 07:50
Liquid rhythm...

Marten may well be a truly terrible dancer, and needs to lower his inhibitions enough to actually go out there and even attempt it. 



Poor sod. 

I have found that my dancing improves as the peope around me drink more.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Black Sword on 07 Nov 2011, 08:14
I may have to revise my estimation of Marten's strategic skills. If his goal is to avoid the dance floor, and his "one more drink" has the strength of a Mike Tyson punch to the face, well, it's not like he knew, right?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 07 Nov 2011, 08:25
Seems to be exactly what Marten's aiming for-drinking himself into unconsciousness so he doesn't HAVE to dance.

EDIT: Or be so drunk he won't care how he looks on the dance floor...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 07 Nov 2011, 08:31
It's quite a fine line really.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 07 Nov 2011, 09:25
Tarbender! Get me 2 Pan-Galactic Gargle Blasters.

Maryen probably never danced in his earlier years, due to him being on stage guitarin'

I know very few musicians who have spent much time on the dance floor.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 07 Nov 2011, 09:29
Also given both his Mother's and his Father's professions, Marten is probably not comfortable with public displays of his physical sexuality.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 07 Nov 2011, 10:51
Faye's smashed. Marten's about to get smasheder.

This cannot end well.


Faye might actually be sober at this point.  She doesn't seem to have any "drunk bubbles" floating around her.

Speaking of characters in the background, is that Charlotte the AnthroPC standing behind Marten in a couple of panels?  Hair's the right colour, hairstyle is sort of right, but it could be a guy.

I don't know, her barking orders and shoving him around make me think she's still drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: John_Knee on 07 Nov 2011, 11:01
Faye's smashed. Marten's about to get smasheder.

This cannot end well.


Faye might actually be sober at this point.  She doesn't seem to have any "drunk bubbles" floating around her.

Speaking of characters in the background, is that Charlotte the AnthroPC standing behind Marten in a couple of panels?  Hair's the right colour, hairstyle is sort of right, but it could be a guy.

I don't know, her barking orders and shoving him around make me think she's still drunk.

Considering Padma gave Faye a solid punch outside the club, to what extent would that have cleared Faye's mind? I've known a few people to quickly sober up in such situations - probably the body produced a load of adrenaline or something (in the fight or flight situation) which countered the effects of the alcohol... Is there any chemists here to confirm?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 07 Nov 2011, 11:27
Mythbusters busted that.

The only thing that can sober you up is time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Nov 2011, 11:50
Well, it has  been a while since Angus' departure, and Faye's coping drunk.  A few hours, at least.  I'm sure with her practiced liver, the buzz is wearing off by now. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 07 Nov 2011, 12:04
For comic #2051...


1. Poor Marten, caught between a rock & a hard place, both of whom are capable fist-fighters.

2. Art-wise, I liked the angle-shot for panel #3.  Jeph rarely disappoints for mixing it up, rather than sticking purely to a side-shot style.

3. Were I still a drinker, passed-out patron's reaction would actually be more of an endorsement than a warning to me :roll: , just like Marten apparrently.


4. Adrenaline and endorphins work somewhat as a sobering effect (Note "effect," does not actually negate the alcohol in you).  Pain itself also works well.  It is a regrettable thing in one's life when one can say they have experienced both :-( .

5. Just because your mind is "clearer" does not mean your mind is "clear," or makes you any less drunk since said alcohol is still in your system.  But comic-wise, I assume since there are no drunk-bubbles," Faye is (relatively) sober-minded.  Though I question the wisdom of pushing Marten towards a girl [Padma] with laden with so many complications, potential drama-bombs (see "Elliot"), and a timer ticking down (for when Padma moves back to California).

6. A general and major misconception of drunkeness vs. sobering methods: When you eat (various) foods or drink caffeinated drinks (coffee being the one most think of) in a attempt to counteract being drunk, you are not actually "detoxifying" the effect of alcohol.  Your body is trying to process both effects at the same time, like trying to cover up a smoker's smells with air-freshener.  This is why most people burn-out &/or crash harder as a result (in the immediate-, short-, and long-term of drinking), the body is trying to multi-task contradicting effects.  The best solution remains hydrating (meaning: "drink lots of clean water") and rest (or "time" as akronnick just posted).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: John_Knee on 07 Nov 2011, 12:10
Mythbusters busted that.

The only thing that can sober you up is time.

Hardly... trying sobering up techniques such as drinking coffee and putting your head in cold water isn't quite the sort of stimuli that would trigger your body to sober yourself up - or at least react in such a way to counter the drunken effects of alcohol...  Plus their final act of "slap in the face" saw an improvement in Adam's score post slap which hardly disproves my point... If anything Mythbusters indicated my point was a bit more valid if anything else.

No actions can immediately sober you up, but the body is capable of producing a load of chemicals that can cancel out the effect.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 13:48
Mythbusters busted that.

Mythbusters hasn't been good since Scottie left the build team and was replaced by Kari.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 07 Nov 2011, 14:00
I'd be more worried if it turns out to be green.


 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 07 Nov 2011, 14:00
Kari has been with them since day one. Grant came on after Scottie left, not Kari.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Somebody on 07 Nov 2011, 15:24
On the other hand, unless its everclear or bacardi 151, those two drinks might loosen him up and make him want to dance like a fool.
Or tequila, in which case he will find himself somewhere on the Canadian border tomorrow looking for other people called "Marten Reed".
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 17:22
I'm my mind I like to think he ordered some Everclear.
Thas what happened to me last time I drank it.

In case no one mentioned it, Everclear is illegal in Massachusetts.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 17:38
Kari has been with them since day one. Grant came on after Scottie left, not Kari.

Techniclly, Kari was more of a "background" character before she went onto the build team. But your right that Scottie got replaced with Grant.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: westrim on 07 Nov 2011, 17:44
I'm my mind I like to think he ordered some Everclear.
Thas what happened to me last time I drank it.

In case no one mentioned it, Everclear is illegal in Massachusetts.
Thanks, that hadn't been made clear.  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: St.Clair on 07 Nov 2011, 17:54
Mythbusters busted that.

The only thing that can sober you up is time.
Tricky to convincingly simulate "life-threatening medical emergency on the set", let alone make detailed observations and measurements of the subject's reactions while it's (supposedly) going on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Watched Pot on 07 Nov 2011, 18:31
I'm getting Event Horizon flashbacks here...

Liberate tute me ex inferis. ... *shudder*
You can't leave. The call of the dance won't let you.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 19:53
So, what were we doing before we were so RUDELY interrupted?

Dancey dancey!    - 7 (11.7%)
Faye mopey over Angus!    - 6 (10%)
Marten dazey over Padma!    - 2 (3.3%)
Hanners and Tai fazed by Aural Sex!    - 24 (40%)
What a feeling! (I AM MUSIC NOW)    - 1 (1.7%)
Wait - do AnthroPC's stop working during a power outage?    - 3 (5%)
MOAR BUTTS JOKES!!!!!11!!!!1!!!    - 5 (8.3%)
Something Completely Different.    - 3 (5%)
Waffles.    - 2 (3.3%)
Hey, did you just feel something?    - 7 (11.7%)

Total Voters: 60
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sorflakne on 07 Nov 2011, 20:08
I'm guessing the passed out guy drank a Mongolian Motherfucker.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 21:05
The three worst words in the English language are "being laughed at."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Nov 2011, 21:17
I'm inclined to agree with that statement.

Padma, that wasn't very nice.  :-(
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sylentknight on 07 Nov 2011, 21:20
Rejection and Humiliation! A man's two greatest enemies.
(And you wonder why more men don't dance.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 21:22
Liquid Courage FAIL!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 07 Nov 2011, 21:27
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance? OK, Marten might not be super-good, but he is a musician, so he must have a sense of rhythm. It's not like he has to learn the minuet or something to dance with Padma. Come on...

But yes, you should not laugh in your dance partner's face, no matter how lame their performance.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 07 Nov 2011, 21:35
Marten obviously has not drank enough. If he had he would not have cared if Padma laughed.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: bicostp on 07 Nov 2011, 21:39
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance?

Depends on your definition of dance.

Not everyone can tango, but it's easy to flail your arms around like Kermit the Frog. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sorflakne on 07 Nov 2011, 21:42
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance? OK, Marten might not be super-good, but he is a musician, so he must have a sense of rhythm. It's not like he has to learn the minuet or something to dance with Padma. Come on...
*raises hand*

I have lead feet, and people say I move too stiffly even when I'm smashed.  About the only dance I can do is the two-step.  

It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't a foot taller than the average American and could just disappear into a crowd.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Nov 2011, 21:51
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance?

Does the Safety Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7movKfyTBII&ob=av3e) count?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Nov 2011, 22:22
That should turn into the new Rickroll right there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Arancaytar on 07 Nov 2011, 22:37
I may have to revise my estimation of Marten's strategic skills. If his goal is to avoid the dance floor, and his "one more drink" has the strength of a Mike Tyson punch to the face, well, it's not like he knew, right?

That drink sounds like a poor strategy to avoid any given floor (with his face).
Title: Re: QC Captions Vol. 35!
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Nov 2011, 22:52
Not a caption, but Jeph totally sent me Marten's last line that he cut from today's last panel. He probably shouldn't have:

Marten: God, you're a c**t.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Cornan on 07 Nov 2011, 22:53
"...straight into a jet engine" made me laugh so loudly my girlfriend assumed I was watching MST3K. Something about that line and Faye's face and Marten's arms just made me crack up.

And yeah, count me among the "can't dance" people. Want me to kick a dude in the gut while punching in someone else's face? I'm graceful as all get out. Want me to move around a dance floor? I'm awkward two-left-feet-made-of-lead-man. One is planned and has structure and the other is free form. Anything without structure just sends my brain into panic mode and most dance (at least the kind that people do at parties and what not) is pretty free form. I'm usually the guy at parties sitting on the couch having funny conversations and not the guy flitting around the floor. I sympathize with Marten here.

However, the last time I danced at a dance I did get a lot of "oh you're so brave for trying since you obviously can't dance worth squat" from some of the ladies and it all ended up ok in the end. Here's hoping that Padma finds this more endearing than "oh wow what a spaz."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 07 Nov 2011, 22:55
Sometimes, when you say "I don't know how to dance", what you really mean is "I'm too embarrassed to dance in front of all my friends because I'm afraid that they're watching and judging me".


And sometimes, when you say "I don't know how to dance", what you really mean is "I don't know how to dance."

People like Faye who encourage non-dancey people to dance should bear in mind that the second option is entirely possible. Especially in the case of someone like Marten. :P
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 07 Nov 2011, 23:13
Throw your hands in the air like you just don't care!


And now Marten will drink more than two Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters

Tai, play Tragedy by The Bee Gees.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Nov 2011, 23:23
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance?

Does the Safety Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7movKfyTBII&ob=av3e) count?

Thank you, you have no idea what you've tapped into.  

When that video came out, my future wife and I were involved with the SCA (http://www.sca.org/), and did a ren faire north of Indianapolis.  The consensus among our friends was that she looked exactly like the girl in that video.  A friend even taped it (on his betamax) and we paused it - yup, the hair, the smile/maniacal grin, the outfit - a perfect match!  

Anyway, on midsummer's day we had a Morris dancing troupe at the ren faire, and during the grand processional she gave a grin, jerked he arms into an S and started singing, "We can dance if we want to..." and our whole group joined in, including the Morris dancers.  The hired actors weren't too pleased, neither were the people who ran the thing, but the populace enjoyed it!  

And no, I never looked like the guy with the hair and leather vest.  




Or the midget.  
Title: Re: QC Captions Vol. 35!
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Nov 2011, 23:23
Wait, addressed to Faye, or Padma? 
Title: Re: QC Captions Vol. 35!
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Nov 2011, 23:25
Padma; sorry shoulda made that clearer
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 07 Nov 2011, 23:30
Okay, I dont like Padma anymore.

Wait, I didnt liked her before either.

Oh well, nothing has changed.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Delator on 07 Nov 2011, 23:30
Marten forgot the most important rule of dancing...

"It's all in the hips!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: HiFranc on 07 Nov 2011, 23:44
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance?

Unfortunately, I am in that pridicament.  I'm slightly tone deaf[1] and I do find it hard to pick up a beat.  I'm easily embarrassed when it comes to dancing (but I enjoy singing and do karaoke sober).


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But yes, you should not laugh in your dance partner's face, no matter how lame their performance.

That's true but most people laugh when they shouldn't.  I'll see how they interact over the next few days before making a judgement.


[1] I've been a test subject in an experiment on tone deafness (or, to use the official name, "tonal amusia").  I'm one of the few people who test as tone deaf who enjoy music (that's probably because it's only mild for me).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 07 Nov 2011, 23:45
Rumple Minze.  Clear, sweet, hundred proof, and just enough capsaicin to send it straight to your head without actually slowing you down
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Nov 2011, 00:16
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance? OK, Marten might not be super-good, but he is a musician, so he must have a sense of rhythm. It's not like he has to learn the minuet or something to dance with Padma. Come on...

But yes, you should not laugh in your dance partner's face, no matter how lame their performance.

I'm a musician, I can't dance, and my wife laughed at me when I'd been forced into it in public.  Just the same situation, except that we were already going out.

It didn't damage our relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Nov 2011, 00:20
[1] I've been a test subject in an experiment on tone deafness (or, to use the official name, "tonal amusia").  I'm one of the few people who test as tone deaf who enjoy music (that's probably because it's only mild for me).

Interesting.  How are they defining tone deafness?  I would describe both my late mother and my wife as tone deaf to different degrees, but they both enjoy(ed) music.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: HiFranc on 08 Nov 2011, 00:37
[1] I've been a test subject in an experiment on tone deafness (or, to use the official name, "tonal amusia").  I'm one of the few people who test as tone deaf who enjoy music (that's probably because it's only mild for me).

Interesting.  How are they defining tone deafness?  I would describe both my late mother and my wife as tone deaf to different degrees, but they both enjoy(ed) music.

The way they define it is something to the effect of: an inability to tell the difference betwen the pitch of two notes in a situation where an average person would be able to perceive the difference.

The screening test is to play you a set of notes (sometimes only 2 notes, sometimes a lot more) and they ask questions like:

Are the sets of tones the same or different?
Is the pitch rising or falling?
etc

If you perform worse than an average person (especially if your performance improves with a greater difference) then you are probably tone deaf.[1]

Once you had been classified then they do a lot more in the way of testing to see just how different your perception of music is.  The tests are similar but with a lot more variation (e.g. one of the tests tests the subject's ability to detect "key violoations" (i.e. a note that doesn't belong in the key the melody is in).


[1] I was at the mild end of the spectrum (and my border is around a quarter-tone or semi-tone apart).  I think the most extreme test subject couldn't tell the difference between two notes 5 octaves apart.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 08 Nov 2011, 00:45

Thank you, you have no idea what you've tapped into.  

When that video came out, my future wife and I were involved with the SCA (http://www.sca.org/), and did a ren faire north of Indianapolis.  The consensus among our friends was that she looked exactly like the girl in that video.  A friend even taped it (on his betamax) and we paused it - yup, the hair, the smile/maniacal grin, the outfit - a perfect match!  

Anyway, on midsummer's day we had a Morris dancing troupe at the ren faire, and during the grand processional she gave a grin, jerked he arms into an S and started singing, "We can dance if we want to..." and our whole group joined in, including the Morris dancers.  The hired actors weren't too pleased, neither were the people who ran the thing, but the populace enjoyed it!  

And no, I never looked like the guy with the hair and leather vest.  




Or the midget.  


But where you wearing a hat?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gangler on 08 Nov 2011, 00:47
Aw man. Poor Marten. He doesn't deserve that. Nobody deserves that, but Marten doesn't exactly have the surplus of self-esteem required to just shrug something like this off.

Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance?
I actually thought no one did. My track record for fooling others into believing I know what I'm doing certainly speaks of a poor overall ratio of people who actually do know what they're doing. Bullshit is effective, but generally actual knowledge will cut through it with a level of ease that would be hyperbolic in most contexts. I'm pretty sure dancing as such is a myth within modern day North America, and what we're really doing is just a manifestation of the larger craft of showmanship.

I mean really, when one can consistently pass off mimicry for self-expression something's gotta be up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 08 Nov 2011, 01:10
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance?

I can memorise stuff with steps, but my club experiences most likely looked like Marten.

(Faye's bubbles are back too, maybe I was right on Page 2.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: KingofHearts on 08 Nov 2011, 01:14
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/white_people_dancing.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Moonsaves on 08 Nov 2011, 02:58
I think she thinks he's messing around, to be honest. I don't think she'd laugh at someone if she knew he was actually bad, but he might be that bad she must've thought "oh, he's messing around!"

I can't dance, so I mostly flail around like a spazz for shits and giggles when I'm forced to.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 08 Nov 2011, 03:24

[1]


[1] I was at the mild end of the spectrum (and my border is around a quarter-tone or semi-tone apart).  I think the most extreme test subject couldn't tell the difference between two notes 5 octaves apart.



That person wouldn't be able to tell his mother's voice from his dad's. That's just silly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: stoutfiles on 08 Nov 2011, 03:40
I don't like how Faye uses the phrase "lil guy" for Marten.  It's a condescending phrase if the person is not actually little.

Also, Padma is leaving soon.  Who cares what she thinks?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Welu on 08 Nov 2011, 03:50
Looks like Marten doesn't follow Dara O'Briain's rules for straight  guys keeping hands below the waist while dancing.

I like the expression on the purple haired girl on the last panel. I want to know what's surprised her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Nov 2011, 04:11
I don't like how Faye uses the phrase "lil guy" for Marten.  It's a condescending phrase if the person is not actually little.

But actually it's referring back to "lil' bird", which is a metaphor, and not necessarily condescending at all.

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Also, Padma is leaving soon.  Who cares what she thinks?

Marten, it seems - and Faye, on his behalf.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 08 Nov 2011, 04:23
Oh well, given that he knew he was a terrible dancer already, hopefully his pride won't be too badly dented. Just carry on. It can be quite liberating to look like a goose and not give a hoot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Nov 2011, 04:38

>Safety Dance memories<



But where you wearing a hat?

A hood, but it was down most of the time. 

It was part of the monk's habit.   :angel:

[1] I was at the mild end of the spectrum (and my border is around a quarter-tone or semi-tone apart).  I think the most extreme test subject couldn't tell the difference between two notes 5 octaves apart.

That person wouldn't be able to tell his mother's voice from his dad's. That's just silly.

My mother's about that tone deaf.  Fortunately, there's more to a person's voice than just pitch.  She enjoys some music, but it's more of a rhythmic thing for her.  Can't carry a tune in a bucket.  There's a lso a genetic aspect to it - of her four sons, two of us are musical, and the other two are nearly as tone deaf as she is! 

But actually it's referring back to "lil' bird", which is a metaphor, and not necessarily condescending at all.

All I can think of is a 12 lb Canada goose, sucked into the intake...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 08 Nov 2011, 04:41
Looking at the poll - I think that the attempted drunken makeout with Tai would be absolutely fricken hilarious
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 08 Nov 2011, 04:50
But actually it's referring back to "lil' bird", which is a metaphor, and not necessarily condescending at all.
In any event, can you be condescending inside your own head? Faye is thinking, not speaking or acting in a condescending manner.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 08 Nov 2011, 04:53
Marten really needs to just laugh at himself now. An alternative might have been to grab Padma's hands, look at her in the eyes, and spell it: "I can't dance. Teach me, please." But I think the door on that option closed, when Marten made his trip to the bar instead.

Count me in the ranks of people who can't manage it on the dance floor. I enjoy mostly the melody/harmony side of music, but have problems with the rhythm/beat. In junior high our class took a test much like the one described by HiFranc. IIRC I was still able to tell the difference between two consecutive tones, when they differed by quite a bit less than a quarter tone (2.9 per cent difference in frequency), but some classmates did much better - a violinist friend was particularly good at that. But my sense of rhythm is somewhere between so-so and pitiful. My high school flame made me try to play piano with a metronome ticking on the side. An eyeear-opening experience.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 08 Nov 2011, 05:17
Seriously, does anyone really not know how to dance? OK, Marten might not be super-good, but he is a musician, so he must have a sense of rhythm. It's not like he has to learn the minuet or something to dance with Padma. Come on...
*raises hand*

me shuffles awkwardly to Sorflakne's corner of teh room, and raises hand.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: LordVaughn on 08 Nov 2011, 05:25
Marten forgot the most important rule of dancing...

"It's all in the hips!"
If my experiences with dancing are anything to go by, it's very easy to mess that up. I move my hips somewhere in between "walking baby" and "robot", just at that point where its extremely awkward.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 08 Nov 2011, 05:28
Also, Padma is leaving soon.  Who cares what she thinks?
Who says she won't be back, though?
Either after her granny's funeral, or more likely) after a couple of weeks when her family drives her crazy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Moonsaves on 08 Nov 2011, 05:33
Why do I get this forboding feeling Padma is going to get a phone call from her family telling her that her gran has passed away before she even goes?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Thrudd on 08 Nov 2011, 05:40
I think that this says it all
(http://rlv.zcache.com/beer_helping_white_guys_dance_since_1842_poster-p228918641194128695t5ta_400.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 08 Nov 2011, 05:46
Hmm.

Just for the record - I love dancing.

I have no clue if I'm good or bad at it. Probably rather bad, because I never TRAINED it in any way - but I definitely love it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Nov 2011, 05:55
That's probably the main thing you need to make it convincing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 08 Nov 2011, 06:00
Beer or love?
___

According to some people, I'm kinda bad. Mostly in the "you are too stiff" kind of way. Once I get one or two drinks I seem to move a bit better but I still think I suck at it plus I'm very shy but if the number of people dancing is quite big I don't care at all, with alcohol or not. I give Marten full credit for actually dancing in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 08 Nov 2011, 07:18
I think Marten's best response to Padma's laughing is to make her laugh even harder. In other words, totally ham it up on the dance floor, flail around like an epileptic on crack or something. Of course, that takes a bit more self-confidence and self-esteem than Marten has (or more strong drinks, perhaps?).

Never mind, his best option was to slam down several shots of some 100-proof type liquor and pass out long before he got to the floor. Too late for that now.



Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: celticgeek on 08 Nov 2011, 07:30
The poll does not mention Beatles Medley Drunk. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1229)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: crazdgamer on 08 Nov 2011, 07:31
... An alternative might have been to grab Padma's hands, look at her in the eyes, and spell it: "I can't dance. Teach me, please."
That option would require Marten to have some degree of game, of which Marten has precisely none.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: stoutfiles on 08 Nov 2011, 10:38
But actually it's referring back to "lil' bird", which is a metaphor, and not necessarily condescending at all.
In any event, can you be condescending inside your own head? Faye is thinking, not speaking or acting in a condescending manner.

It's as if Marten never was close to ever dating Faye if she thinks of him as a lil' guy.  She's thinking that Marten is pathetic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: JackFaerie on 08 Nov 2011, 10:40
Count me in the ranks of people who can't manage it on the dance floor. I enjoy mostly the melody/harmony side of music, but have problems with the rhythm/beat.

Yep, that's me too. I'm much more responsive to melody than to rhythm, and I cannot for the life of me "feel out" the beat of a song. My gentleman friend has recently been teaching me to dance, and now I mostly can tell the beat, if I relax, sort of... but when we started I would confound him with my utter inability. He couldn't believe at first that I really, truly, did not get what the "beat" of any song was at all, and could not pick it up. I also tend to be too stiff in my movements, so in general... not a good dancer. Heh.


I don't think I'm tone deaf exactly (I am pretty sure I can tell there's a difference between pitches if they're presented to me right after another, and the whole rising/falling bit), and I do enjoy music, but I definitely don't have an "ear" for it. For instance, even if I love a song, and it comes on the radio, all I can tell from the first few notes is that "I know this one!" but not what it is. Even if it's a song I've sung along with a thousand times. I usually need the main melody to start to figure it out. (For instance... I love David Bowie. Love, love love. I certainly know all his songs. But when the first few chords come on the radio, I consistently cannot tell if they're about to play Queen Bitch or Rebel Rebel. I know they're different. But what the chords trip in my brain is "Bowie!!" and it takes a while to settle into "which David Bowie." Major shame there.

It's as if Marten never was close to ever dating Faye if she thinks of him as a lil' guy.  She's thinking that Marten is pathetic.

....not necessarily. I don't know where guys get the idea that women must think of them as Infallible Manly He-Men in order to want to date them. That's true for some women, but not all. An occasional feeling of "awww, cute lil' dude" is not at all an impediment for many women. For some of us, that's even required for surface attraction to crest over to deeper affection.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 08 Nov 2011, 10:47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOyF4hR5GoE


Luckily there´s a song for everyone :D



I can't dance either, but if you do it in a convincing way almost nobody can tell the difference.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 08 Nov 2011, 11:29
I don't think Marten ever was all that close to dating Faye, though.  He may have thought he was at a few moments, but he really wasn't.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Nov 2011, 11:29
It's as if Marten never was close to ever dating Faye if she thinks of him as a lil' guy.  She's thinking that Marten is pathetic.

Um, have you never come across terms of endearment?  Or use of kiddy talk between friends?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Schmorgluck on 08 Nov 2011, 12:35
I haven't danced in quite a while. Based on my ability to find female partners willing to synch with me on a dancefloor, if only for a song or two, I suppose I'm not awful at it.

It recently came to my mind that the few times I got laid, back in the 90s, can all be tied to my dancing.

I really should manage to dance more...

Am I seeing Dora in panel 3?

Panel 2B, I take it? No, that's DEFINITELY not her. Too wide of a mouth.

I'm pretty sure cesariojpn really meant panel 3. As in, the third panel. The one before panel 4, and after panel 2. The second panel of the second line of panels, in a comic comprizing four lines of panels, totalizing exactly seven panels. For every existing definition of "panel" in the context of comics (hint: there only one).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Nov 2011, 13:34
I guess I'm the exception in here - I love to dance, and I'm told I'm good at it.  I took a stage movement course in the theatre department when I was in college, it met 5 days a week.  Monday and Wednesday were ballet, Tuesday was jazz, Thursday was tap.  I can still do "bells", the move where you click your heels in midair.  But Fridays - oh, Fridays - was ballroom.  Waltzes, tangos, foxtrot, lindy, I couldn't get enough.  I took that course every semester for 3 years, 4 of the times weren't even for credit. 

My fondest memory was the Viennese waltz with Heidi Loebstein.  She was 6 inches taller than me, and I had to leap over her leg like a hurdle to make it far enough around her for the next step.  Wayne, the instructor, said it was the most gracefully executed awkwardness he'd ever seen. 

My wife had been a dancer as well, 12 years of ballet (she instructed, too) and when we went out to hear our favorite local band (The Dorkestra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af0X5FJnZQk&feature=related)) , one of the tunes they always played was a cover of Paradise (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmQfaQP_x38&feature=related).  We'd get up front and waltz through the crowd.  One time they invited us up onstage to waltz around them while they played. 

Her knee blew out about ten years ago, so now the only dancing I do is around the kitchen when something good comes on the radio.  When my daughters were little, I'd twirl them about, too. 


I hope I can go dancing again someday.   :|
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 08 Nov 2011, 14:25
Marten really doesn't want anyone to think he's a Dancin' fool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0SIg4njx0)

"tonight, we'd like to do a song about an importany social problem - disco..."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 08 Nov 2011, 14:41
I'm pretty sure cesariojpn really meant panel 3. As in, the third panel. The one before panel 4, and after panel 2. The second panel of the second line of panels, in a comic comprizing four lines of panels, totalizing exactly seven panels. For every existing definition of "panel" in the context of comics (hint: there only one).
I'll bet you're really good at Holy Hand Grenades.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Nov 2011, 15:09
"Panel 5"
"Three, sir."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Nov 2011, 16:34
The poll does not mention Beatles Medley Drunk. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1229)

I could say "This was dancing, not Karaoke we're talking about", but truth is it never crossed my mind.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Nov 2011, 17:16
ya know.. maybe Padma's just having a good time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Nov 2011, 17:23
But actually it's referring back to "lil' bird", which is a metaphor, and not necessarily condescending at all.
In any event, can you be condescending inside your own head? Faye is thinking, not speaking or acting in a condescending manner.
I read the original post without thinking twice about it, but now that you've asked, my native-speaker intuition is floundering for an answer.

Anyone else think that condescension can be an attitude as well as a type of action?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 08 Nov 2011, 17:59
Anyone else think that condescension can be an attitude as well as a type of action?
Most definitely. In fact, I think of it as an attitude that leads to an action.
But I want to see how things turn out in the next few comics. If I've learned anything about QC, it's that a burning fuse rarely leads to an explosion -- at least right away.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: St.Clair on 08 Nov 2011, 18:07
I think that counts as a bird strike, yeah.

And add me to the ranks.  Like many other social customs, I (used to) know the SCA version but not the modern equivalents - I could manage a round or even a pavane, but you'd have to drag me out onto a nightclub floor (not an easy task, considering my weight and stubbornness).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Nov 2011, 19:36
How drunk will Marten get?

Dancing Fool Drunk.    - 17 (30.4%) <--- Emphasis on the "Fool" part.
Drunker than Faye.    - 6 (10.7%)
Sucker Rule Violation Drunk.    - 5 (8.9%)
Attempted Makeout with Faye Drunk.    - 5 (8.9%)
Attempted Makeout with Tai Drunk.    - 4 (7.1%)
Hospitalized (trying to drunk makeout with Hanners).    - 2 (3.6%)
Everclear drunk.    - 1 (1.8%)
Raven drunk (two Shirley Temples).    - 5 (8.9%)
Waffle House drunk.    - 8 (14.3%)
MOAR BUTTS!!!!!1!!1    - 3 (5.4%)

Total Voters: 56
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 08 Nov 2011, 19:44
ya know.. maybe Padma's just having a good time.

Yeah, It looks she's having a great time. At someone else's expense. What's your point?

It'd be more forgivable if Faye were the one doing the laughing; she and Marten are tight and he'd probably laugh with her, but Padma doesn't know Marten that well, so it's a bit rude for her to just outright point and laugh at him.

Then again, what Moonsaves said earlier could definitely be true about Padma thinking Marten's just kidding around; she's not exactly the queen of perception, is she?

Edit: One of my posts has now begun each new page of this thread. Weeeeiiiiiiiirrrrrrrd  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gprimr1 on 08 Nov 2011, 20:01
I dislike this kind of dancing where everyone is dancing by themselves in a big group.

Now if I am with a girl, that is no big deal and I'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Nov 2011, 20:03
Anyone else think that condescension can be an attitude as well as a type of action?
Most definitely. In fact, I think of it as an attitude that leads to an action.

You can only tell a person's attitude by their actions - you can't have a condescending attitude and act in a way that's not  condescending.  

The attitude that leads to condescension is superiority.  You have to feel "above" someone in order to "lower" yourself to their level... hence the "descend" part of condescending.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: JohnTheWysard on 08 Nov 2011, 20:35
And yeah, count me among the "can't dance" people. Want me to kick a dude in the gut while punching in someone else's face? I'm graceful as all get out. Want me to move around a dance floor? I'm awkward two-left-feet-made-of-lead-man. One is planned and has structure and the other is free form. Anything without structure just sends my brain into panic mode and most dance (at least the kind that people do at parties and what not) is pretty free form.

You might want to check out some of the older, "traditional" dance forms like contradance, ballroom, square, or even "International Folkdance". Grace, precision, planning and structure are integral to them (you do NOT want much freeform in a hambo....!!!!) and in additon they're lots of fun.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 08 Nov 2011, 20:57
I've been lurking for several years now, but I finally have to post.

I don't play any instruments, but I am a singer, at parties and other social gatherings, and there's something I've never understood. How can a person who is musical, like Marten, not know how to dance? When I'm singing, I'm keeping the beat with my foot or my hands, or both, to keep the tempo with whoever is playing the instrument. That's just a short step (no pun intended) from dancing, which I also enjoy.

I have to suppose it's some sort of performance anxiety, poor body image or whatever, but it seems strange to me that there are people who are musical but can't (or just don't) dance.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: westrim on 08 Nov 2011, 21:05
To my surprise, there actually is at least one dubstep remix of Walk Like An Egyptian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PI9ZHhNayg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PI9ZHhNayg)


Also, my contribution to the list of songs about not dancing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndqj0ySjWE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndqj0ySjWE)


I haven't danced unguardedly in public since a wedding when I was 8 (also the last time I danced paired with someone), and not in public period since 12. To my knowledge I am actually a good dancer, but I worry too much about being judged, and I'm rarely at occasions to dance anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Wagimawr on 08 Nov 2011, 23:25
I have to suppose it's some sort of performance anxiety, poor body image or whatever, but it seems strange to me that there are people who are musical but can't (or just don't) dance.
Alright, so how do you dance, then? If it's that simple with a musical/rhythmic mind, explain it to me in similar terms. :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Nov 2011, 23:34
To my surprise, there actually is at least one dubstep remix of Walk Like An Egyptian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PI9ZHhNayg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PI9ZHhNayg)


Also, my contribution to the list of songs about not dancing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndqj0ySjWE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndqj0ySjWE)


I haven't danced unguardedly in public since a wedding when I was 8 (also the last time I danced paired with someone), and not in public period since 12. To my knowledge I am actually a good dancer, but I worry too much about being judged, and I'm rarely at occasions to dance anyway.

And, linked from the dubstep page, we come full circle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfR31PQe81k&feature=related)...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 09 Nov 2011, 00:04


I don't play any instruments, but I am a singer, at parties and other social gatherings, and there's something I've never understood. How can a person who is musical, like Marten, not know how to dance? When I'm singing, I'm keeping the beat with my foot or my hands, or both, to keep the tempo with whoever is playing the instrument. That's just a short step (no pun intended) from dancing, which I also enjoy.

I have to suppose it's some sort of performance anxiety, poor body image or whatever, but it seems strange to me that there are people who are musical but can't (or just don't) dance.

Yar, you sh´d think so.
But he is also a guitarist. I used to play guitar and now I only sing
.. loose the guitar and *poof* "What the hell do I hold onto while people are staring at me!?!" :psyduck:

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Nov 2011, 01:06
@VonKleist:
The mic? °-O

Anyone else get the hopefull feeling that Padma might've simply seen a funny bird or something somewhere across the room?

The more loosely you define "dancing", the more people are at least inside a "capable" spectrum. Question is, what does Padma's definition look like?

I myself have done some courses in standart partner dances and loved it. I would be doing much more in that direction if I'd ever found a dance partner again after that. oO
For me, dancing is just letting go of that part of your brain that thinks in logic and go with whatever feels right... as a drummer, I mostly end up accentuating the rhythm.
(Someone here once theorized about Hanner's ability to dance and said that for her its probably just counting with the whole body... I like that image.)

edit:
Huh? There still are drunk-bubbles around Faye's head... just not in the last two panels. ... or did Jeph add those later?

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 09 Nov 2011, 01:28
Anyone else get the hopefull feeling that Padma might've simply seen a funny bird or something somewhere across the room?
Yes. Of course. Funny bird. On the INSIDE. In the DISCO. Plenty of birds present there, at all times, for sure !

Also, she's pointing directly at Marten. For thats the thing you do when you laugh about something in the distance, pointing at people right next to you.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Nov 2011, 01:32
Anyone else get the hopefull feeling that Padma might've simply seen a funny bird or something somewhere across the room?
Yes. Of course. Funny bird. On the INSIDE. In the DISCO. Plenty of birds present there, at all times, for sure !

Also, she's pointing directly at Marten. For thats the thing you do when you laugh about something in the distance, pointing at people right next to you.

Bird could be painted on the wall, still funny. Or, you know, could be ANYTHING ELSE (as clarified by the words "or something"). ;)

Also: Comic's two-dimensional. She could be pointing slightly past either of his sides. I know its wishfull thinking, but still a slight possibility exists.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 09 Nov 2011, 01:49
@VonKleist:
The mic? °-O

Yes, but it´s not the same  :|
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Nov 2011, 02:36
Comic!

It's like two parallel comics leading to separate jokes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kelbel155 on 09 Nov 2011, 02:43
So... Does this coming mean that Hannelore has existing nipple piercings? Because that would be pretty hot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: westrim on 09 Nov 2011, 02:45
Courtesy of the newspost: SCIENCE!

It's like two parallel comics leading to separate jokes.
I actually did read the conversations one at a time. And the first time a female asks me the fat question, I intend to respond "yes, fatheaded and manupulative" and ignore any fall out. If someone asks a loaded question, they shouldn't be surprised when it goes off in their face (I am now imagining the powder burns from a loaded question misfire).

So... Does this comic mean that Hannelore has existing nipple piercings? Because that would be pretty hot.
Her ears are pierced in multiple places. She explicitly says that nipple piercings would be new.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 09 Nov 2011, 02:50
Comic!

It's like two parallel comics leading to separate jokes.

A two-fer!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 09 Nov 2011, 02:55
Powered by symmetry.. I hope she doesn't realise her sleeves have been off-kilter all night.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Nov 2011, 02:56
By design, surely - and that's the joke, of course.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Nov 2011, 03:10
Aw... no Hanners dance. Ah well, it'll happen eventually.

And Padma truly IS ditzy... but at least she's aware of it. FLIRTATIOUS OPENING (!!!) btw.!
(This happens to me quite a lot. I always enjoy seeing girls blush when I explain how chracteristic and interesting their little quirks are. Those occasions are goldmines for smart and witty compliments. (And if the girl is a bit more "literate", I sometimes even get to talk about psychology :-D ) )

An asymmetrical Hanners is like Schroedinger's Cat with a radiation suit and a breathing mask. You just know it'll spin out of control and take vengeance on you once you open that box.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Nov 2011, 03:11
Her sly smile when she mentions "a couple  of new piercings..."  Now, Hanners!  What could  you be thinking?  

Also, am I the only one digging the couch?  


I thought so.  


"Drunk Ladies prefer PAB(s)T!"  Good old PBR.  Pure Brewed Retchedness...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 09 Nov 2011, 03:11
For comic #2053...

1. Double your conversations, double your punchlines (Doublemint Gum!), Jeph must have worked doubly hard on tonight's script.

2. Neodymium magnets are lots of fun as well as useful.  Especially the cubes or the small spheroids for desks, lots of finger-fiddling fun.

3. Wait-  Hanners requiring a couple of new piercings to use said magnets to hold her boobs inside her off-shoulder top...?   My imagination would be running wild were my brain not requiring sleep.

4. And apparrently "Drunk Ladies prefer Pabst (beer)".


5. For the younger crowd...

 - "Does this dress make me look fat?"

 - "No, it makes you look 'PHAT'."  [NOTE: even this compliment attempt is unlikely to save you]


6. For the older crowd...

 - "Does this dress make me look fat?"

 - "No, dear"

 - "You're not even looking!"

 - "Yes, dear"

 - "Are you even listening?!?"

 - "Vanilla-bean ice cream & blueberries atop belgian waffles, dear"

 - [use the momentary "???" pause to seek cover or escape from the shortly incoming thrown shoe]
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Nov 2011, 03:16
"Does this dress make me look fat?"
"Honey, you couldn't look fat in that beautiful dress even if I snuck in there with you."

Why does no one go for the sincerely affectionate, slightly endearingly disturbed imaginative compliment anymore? Those always seem to save my ass.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 09 Nov 2011, 03:18
The one question that should never be asked if one can't take a "yes" answer is "Do I look fat in this skirt/dress/whatever piece of clothing?". I think the reason women keep asking this is not enough people have the courage to say "yes" (assuming it's true of course. But if it's not, again, why are you asking???)

Padma's obviously one of those people you don't ask that question to, as her mother found out.

BTW Pendrake's "make me look fat" responses made me LOL - especially the older couple one where the guy uses the gal's moment of confusion to escape.

"Does this dress make me look fat?"
"Honey, you couldn't look fat in that beautiful dress even if I snuck in there with you."

Why does no one go for the sincerely affectionate, slightly endearingly disturbed imaginative compliment anymore? Those always seem to save my ass.

Because you get tired of having to come up with yet ANOTHER one after she's asked that damn question for the 1001st time!  :x


Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 09 Nov 2011, 03:22
So... Does this comic mean that Hannelore has existing nipple piercings? Because that would be pretty hot.
Her ears are pierced in multiple places. She explicitly says that nipple piercings would be new.
No, her actual answer is much more ambiguous. She doesnt explicity say she has no nippes at her titts at all, just that she doesnt have enough.

It doesnt really work anyway. I am fairly sure nobody uses magnetic materials for piercings in the first place. There is no good reason why one would want to.

Also, even with neodyn any magnet keeping a womans breast in place has probably to be quite big.


"Does this dress make me look fat?"
"Honey, you couldn't look fat in that beautiful dress even if I snuck in there with you."

Why does no one go for the sincerely affectionate, slightly endearingly disturbed imaginative compliment anymore? Those always seem to save my ass.
Uh, because you are not as dumb as Padma ?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Nov 2011, 03:25
Because you get tired of having to come up with yet ANOTHER one after she's asked that damn question for the 1001st time!  :x
Tru dat. But I guess, after the 171st time, you might as well start repeating yourself. She won't notice... if she does, you married an eidetic. °o

Hm... maybe its a question asked to test the masculinity of a chosen male. Honesty? Strength of will? Ability to consider any emotional circumstances and - if necessary - use a white lie?
(Men of Steel championship, final test: "Does this <piece of clothing> make me look fat?" ... )

@Snubnose:
Hm... no way to discern that, right?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Nov 2011, 03:35
Also, even with neodyn any magnet keeping a womans breast in place has probably to be quite big.

Now where did I put that link to the video I found once on the internet.....?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 09 Nov 2011, 03:38
Marten really needs to just laugh at himself now.

This.

Just for the record - I love dancing.

I have no clue if I'm good or bad at it. Probably rather bad, because I never TRAINED it in any way - but I definitely love it.

Also this.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 09 Nov 2011, 04:26
I like how people get angry at the vanity of women and having to answer a dumb question once in a while (jeez, hiiiigh maintenance) and don't wonder why they care about whether or not they look fat in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 09 Nov 2011, 04:33
The problem with the question is it's very difficult to give an answer the woman will be satisfied with. The woman will call the guy a liar or be insulted, etc., etc. It's why that question gives most guys the cold sweats or at least annoys the heck out of us.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Jabberwocky on 09 Nov 2011, 04:42
An asymmetrical Hanners is like Schroedinger's Cat with a radiation suit and a breathing mask. You just know it'll spin out of control and take vengeance on you once you open that box.
She's not completely symmetrical. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1405)

Does this coming mean that Hannelore has existing nipple piercings?
I'm sure Marten would have mentioned it. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1314)   :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Nov 2011, 04:46
I am fairly sure nobody uses magnetic materials for piercings in the first place. There is no good reason why one would want to.

But see:

Apparently, magnets in multiple fingertips allows you to sense magnetic fields, specifically their dimensions and strength in the particular part of the field your hand is in, in three dimensions. You can sense electricity by tingling, she says, so you don't have to worry about hard drives and stuff because you wouldn't accidentally touch them when they were running due to the tingles, and the magnets would not be strong enough to affect anything on the hard drive when it was off.

There's quite a lot more discussion in that thread, and a photo of the magnets someone bought.  Of course, magnets strong enough to hold a top in place would be quite another matter.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Schmorgluck on 09 Nov 2011, 04:47
Were I asked that question, the answer would depend of my mood.
If I'm feeling kind, it would be "Strangely, yes."
If I feel more stingy, it would be "Not particularly."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Loki on 09 Nov 2011, 04:55
She's not completely symmetrical. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1405)

You know, I have NEVER before noticed there was a typo in the first panel of that strip o.o
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 09 Nov 2011, 06:50
The problem with the question is it's very difficult to give an answer the woman will be satisfied with. The woman will call the guy a liar or be insulted, etc., etc. It's why that question gives most guys the cold sweats or at least annoys the heck out of us.

I prefer (and have used) the Tim Allen answer:

"I am Switzerland. I have no opinion."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Nov 2011, 07:33
Hanners: I couldn't dance in this top! My boob would pop out!
Marten: Eh, nothing I haven't seen before.
Everyone else: WHAT
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2011, 09:12
Hey! No fair posting the caption before you post the picture!

Just for that:

HANNERS: "The new girls at the coffee shop have some really strange names. For example (trance state): Who is at the cash register ..."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Nov 2011, 09:44
heh Sorry I thought of that the moment I read Hanners' comment in panel 2 and I had to say it before someone beat me to the punch  :-D  :evil:

Also, there are 4 speech bubbles in every panel of today's comic (except 1); and I'm wondering if that's too cumbersome for the caption game. I dunno. Thoughts?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2011, 10:22
Eh, I think most of us have regarded the structure of the word balloons as more of a suggestion when it comes to captioning.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: valis_kr3 on 09 Nov 2011, 10:36
This has been the cutest group of comics involving Hanners ever! She seems to be making a lot of progress. Wearing something other than t-shirt jeans and seems to able feel some form of pleasure without freaking out that her body can do that.  :-) :-) :-)

Also Faye is taking it really well that Padma knocked her off her ass only a few hours ago
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 09 Nov 2011, 10:39
The problem with the question is it's very difficult to give an answer the woman will be satisfied with. The woman will call the guy a liar or be insulted, etc., etc. It's why that question gives most guys the cold sweats or at least annoys the heck out of us.



Ah, jee. Who knew we were all so crazy?
I'm not sure why it's so difficult when a girl asks a guy that question, I've been asked it a million times and have no trouble answering just using some empathy and honesty. Oh, and not being dismissive of the person asking because they probably want an opinion for a reason.
Perhaps I'm reading into it too much, but I can't help but feel like there's elements of the sexist system in your mindset - especially if you have the temptation to answer "yes." Liiiiiiike, how can a person look fat if they're not actually fat? There's just so much pressure for a woman to wear clothes that squeeze her in all the right places, oh, and not to think about what she's wearing. Be sexy. Think like a guy. What?

So, yes, a little understanding of the insecurity as a result of unreasonable expectations would be good. But also, I can't believe that has actually happened to you so many times, that a woman would outright attack you for her insecurities. Who the hell are you socialising with? TV cliches?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 09 Nov 2011, 11:00
Comic!

It's like two parallel comics leading to separate jokes.

[Insert obvious Xzibit joke here]
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Nov 2011, 11:01
Eh, I think most of us have regarded the structure of the word balloons as more of a suggestion when it comes to captioning.

That's what I was hoping for, but I've noticed most people seem to base the structure of the captions solely on the balloons. Still, I'll definitely keep that one in mind.

Maybe it's time for a poll in the caption game thread...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 09 Nov 2011, 11:06
Ah, jee. Who knew we were all so crazy?
I'm not sure why it's so difficult when a girl asks a guy that question, I've been asked it a million times and have no trouble answering just using some empathy and honesty. Oh, and not being dismissive of the person asking because they probably want an opinion for a reason.
Perhaps I'm reading into it too much, but I can't help but feel like there's elements of the sexist system in your mindset - especially if you have the temptation to answer "yes." Liiiiiiike, how can a person look fat if they're not actually fat? There's just so much pressure for a woman to wear clothes that squeeze her in all the right places, oh, and not to think about what she's wearing. Be sexy. Think like a guy. What?

So, yes, a little understanding of the insecurity as a result of unreasonable expectations would be good. But also, I can't believe that has actually happened to you so many times, that a woman would outright attack you for her insecurities. Who the hell are you socialising with? TV cliches?

It's somewhat of a loaded question, though. One that requires good timing, since answering too quick is "not thinking about it" and too late is "having to think about it, it's rhetorical".
Cynics are bound to see it as obsessive compliment fishing, some are bound to get bored of the question and get 'smart' about it, and the uninitated will ask "how fabric can make someone fat?" Who knows?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: raoullefere on 09 Nov 2011, 11:22
Upon reading Hanners' description of the sort of dancing women want to see, did this image come to mind for anyone else?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fNWBpWCA4GQ/Sz5sAH3wgiI/AAAAAAAAAgM/2jcbk6-3mk0/s1600/snoopy-dancing1.jpg)

Didn't think so.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Doc on 09 Nov 2011, 11:33
What happened to Faye's right thigh in panel one? It looks horribly thin and strangely attached to her pelvis.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 09 Nov 2011, 11:41
What's it's supposed to be attached to? Her sternum?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Nov 2011, 13:06
I think he meant it was attached in a strange way, not that it was strange that it was attached there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 09 Nov 2011, 13:06
I got to say, today's comic was certainly entertaining.  And also informative.  Perhaps too informative, but who am I to complain? :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: westrim on 09 Nov 2011, 13:24
I got to say, today's comic was certainly entertaining.  And also informative.  Perhaps too informative, but who am I to complain? :laugh:
Paranoid, apparently.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2011, 13:40
Eh, I think most of us have regarded the structure of the word balloons as more of a suggestion when it comes to captioning.

That's what I was hoping for, but I've noticed most people seem to base the structure of the captions solely on the balloons. Still, I'll definitely keep that one in mind.

Maybe it's time for a poll in the caption game thread...

... Although, I tend to award bonus points for appropriateness to a caption that does fit the panel's word balloons. It's certainly an extra creative challenge to make a new caption fit and the result, in my mind, is "better."

That's not to say I'd pass up a supremely funny or appropriate-in-context caption just because of where the bubbles are. Some of the captions for the Angus-Faye bedroom scene, especially the one that painted the fourth wall about the placement of the modesty balloon, were examples of that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 09 Nov 2011, 14:07
I suddenly have tennis Whiplash after that comic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Nov 2011, 14:28
Somewhere back in the mists of vague memory, Jeph may have said that he found pure dialogue to be too static. This strip proves that it can really work well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 09 Nov 2011, 14:34
Hannelore, sweetheart, there's a simpler solution to your dilemma than magnets:  strapless bra.  Of course you could still be in true '80s style by having a bra strap showing, or one "strap" of a tank top showing if you want to wear a regular bra and not have the strap itself showing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 09 Nov 2011, 15:39
Any men who have reached the age of majority without understanding why some women ask "does this dress make me look fat", and learning how to respond appropriately, deserve to have their genetic line peter out. It's not like there isn't a whole library of books out there on the subject. Pro tip: She isn't asking for information, and whether the dress really makes her look fat or not is completely irrelevant. But you knew that already, right? Honestly, I wonder why men who expect women to think and express themselves just like men (despite the fact that for thousands of years we have been punished from childhood on if we did), and apparently have such withering contempt for us, spend any time with us at all*. Wouldn't a life of beer, football and masturbation be cheaper and easier than putting up with people you dislike so much? The misogynism revealed by some of the postings in this thread is really depressing.

*Yes, the answer to this question is obvious. A big part of the reason why women ask these loaded questions is because we want to know if guys' interest and investment in us actually extends a little further than that. It's nice to know that a guy actually likes you. You know, rather than seeing you as some kind of sinister, manipulative, barely-tolerable monster?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 09 Nov 2011, 15:42
I really liked the way Jeph drew the strip, with the two parallel lines of conversation. The body-language of the characters is very nicely done. Am I a total fangirl? Don't answer that!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Nov 2011, 16:16
I really liked the way Jeph drew the strip, with the two parallel lines of conversation. The body-language of the characters is very nicely done. Am I a total fangirl? Don't answer that!

See, always asking questions we can't answer. :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2011, 16:23
He seems to be looking to stretch himself again, though I think we might see more of a steady progression than some of the radical style shifts he's done in the past. He's done the parallels and the Shakespearean background comedy before, and I'd been missing that. Good to see it again..
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: westrim on 09 Nov 2011, 16:44
Any men who have reached the age of majority without understanding why some women ask "does this dress make me look fat", and learning how to respond appropriately, deserve to have their genetic line peter out. It's not like there isn't a whole library of books out there on the subject. Pro tip: She isn't asking for information, and whether the dress really makes her look fat or not is completely irrelevant. But you knew that already, right? Honestly, I wonder why men who expect women to think and express themselves just like men (despite the fact that for thousands of years we have been punished from childhood on if we did), and apparently have such withering contempt for us, spend any time with us at all*. Wouldn't a life of beer, football and masturbation be cheaper and easier than putting up with people you dislike so much? The misogynism revealed by some of the postings in this thread is really depressing.

*Yes, the answer to this question is obvious. A big part of the reason why women ask these loaded questions is because we want to know if guys' interest and investment in us actually extends a little further than that. It's nice to know that a guy actually likes you. You know, rather than seeing you as some kind of sinister, manipulative, barely-tolerable monster?
But you see, guys are worried that the girl they like is secretly a sinister, manipulative, barely-tolerable monster, as you put it (though that's rather harsh), and asking questions that seems to have no right answer (notice that you don't actually say what it is when denigrating those of us that don't know it) only increases or confirms that worry. We (at least, I) know she isn't just asking for information and the question itself is irrelevant- that's why it bugs us. We (at least, I) just want a straightforward question that we can answer honestly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gangler on 09 Nov 2011, 17:02
Honestly, before this moment I didn't realize difficulties with intergender interactions were the exclusive domain of men, nor did I realize that such was grounds for accusations of prejudice. Here I thought this was just perfectly normal stuff to gripe about. I guess I just imagined all those women complaining about how inexpressive their men were, how stubborn and unwilling to directly ask for help etc etc. I must be off my meds.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Wagimawr on 09 Nov 2011, 17:12
Naturally, men want to be asked straightforward questions with straightforward answers but they don't want to point that out all straightforward-like.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 09 Nov 2011, 17:24
Here I thought this was just perfectly normal stuff to gripe about. I guess I just imagined all those women complaining about how inexpressive their men were, how stubborn and unwilling to directly ask for help etc etc. I must be off my meds.
Count the postings in this thread complaining about women. Then count the posts in which there are "all those women complaining" about men. Oh wait, there's only my single posting. The "normality" of this complaining seems rather skewed, don't you think?

See, always asking questions we can't answer. :lol:
Hee hee... :-D   On the contrary, it is a question you don't need to answer!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: westrim on 09 Nov 2011, 17:37
Honestly, before this moment I didn't realize difficulties with intergender interactions were the exclusive domain of men, nor did I realize that such was grounds for accusations of prejudice. Here I thought this was just perfectly normal stuff to gripe about. I guess I just imagined all those women complaining about how inexpressive their men were, how stubborn and unwilling to directly ask for help etc etc. I must be off my meds.
My sarcasm sense is tingling.

Count the postings in this thread complaining about women. Then count the posts in which there are "all those women complaining" about men. Oh wait, there's only my single posting. The "normality" of this complaining seems rather skewed, don't you think?
The topic of discussion was derived from the comic, and about a female foible (that, gender wars aside, happened between two women, so apparently some of them don't "reach the age majority without understanding" and "deserve to have their genetic line peter out" too ), not a male one. Why would there have been complaining about male faults?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Nov 2011, 18:41
Here I thought this was just perfectly normal stuff to gripe about. I guess I just imagined all those women complaining about how inexpressive their men were, how stubborn and unwilling to directly ask for help etc etc. I must be off my meds.
Count the postings in this thread complaining about women. Then count the posts in which there are "all those women complaining" about men. Oh wait, there's only my single posting. The "normality" of this complaining seems rather skewed, don't you think?

I took that as a reference to the world outside the forum, where the complaints of any gender against any other are too numerous for me to count.

My sorta-feminist wife doesn't think it's men's fault that women say things like "Does this dress make me look fat?".

It isn't misogyny to complain about mind games. There are women who treat others with more respect than that -- I'm married to one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 09 Nov 2011, 19:53
Pro tip: She isn't asking for information, and whether the dress really makes her look fat or not is completely irrelevant. But you knew that already, right?

Ummm... No I didn't know that. (and, for reference I've been married almost 15 years)

The way us guys simple brains work is:
You ask a question, I answer it as best I can.
You say something's wrong, I try to find a solution to the problem.

Now that second one, I have come to realise (after being blatantly told) is more mis-communication. What's really happening is she wants to talk about what the problem is, and she wants me to listen attentively and shut the hell up.


The bottom line: women and men think about things differently.
Neither is wrong. Just different. Both methods have their benefits. Both are difficult for hte other to fully comprehend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sorflakne on 09 Nov 2011, 20:28
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It isn't misogyny to complain about mind games.
Mind games are utter bullshit.  If you can't be frank, then your relationship has a problem.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 09 Nov 2011, 21:03
The way us guys simple brains work is:
You ask a question, I answer it as best I can.
You say something's wrong, I try to find a solution to the problem.


This is so annoying. SO annoying. "Men are simple, straightforward and practical!" Our society definitely has this obsession with being "simple" and not "loving drama" (even though we all totally love drama sometimes.) And the reason women are defined as dramatic I think is leftover from the Freudian days of diagnosing women with unsociable hysteria for, like, maybe wanting a dude to compromise.

People frame it like, "Oh, men are so doofy," but the truth is they're implying they're better, because they're more simple and streamline emotionally than women. And it's just not true. I'm as simple and as drama-hating as the next guy, if not more - it's just when I have feelings, I have to jump through a million hoops to prove they're not PMS.

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The bottom line: women and men think about things differently.
Neither is wrong. Just different. Both methods have their benefits. Both are difficult for hte other to fully comprehend.

Men and women are socialised differently. Studies on stereotype threat have shown that when you remind a woman she's a woman, she'll perform crappily on a math test. And a man will fail a test on empathetic responses as soon as he knows the test is about empathy. But people still have people-feelings and relating to them on that level works.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 09 Nov 2011, 21:11
*Yes, the answer to this question is obvious. A big part of the reason why women ask these loaded questions is because we want to know if guys' interest and investment in us actually extends a little further than that.

I think I've gone through about three or four drafts of posts which, sadly, I've ended up having to discard.

I'll just settle for saying that I think that it contains a number of pretty big generalisations, on a topic where I think that the reasons behind the question can be quite diverse. The footnote especially - and btw, if that really is the motivation behind asking the question in particular cases, then I'm really not sure it's a very good way to find out.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 09 Nov 2011, 22:23
I took that as a reference to the world outside the forum, where the complaints of any gender against any other are too numerous for me to count.
Oh absolutely!  And if I wanted to wallow in them, I could go to one of the forums devoted to it. It's depressing though to read the same dreary stuff in this forum. And I'm not sure that it isn't misogyny to complain exclusively about the "mind games" of women.

Like your wife, I don't think it is men's fault that some women say things like "Does this dress make me look fat?" (and that particular question has always struck me as silly).  I do think it is their fault if they make no effort to understand questions like that, or feel entitled to demand that women communicate differently for no other reason than to make life easier for them. This cuts both ways, of course, and I believe women should make the effort to communicate more straightforwardly with men. For me at least, it's a work in progress.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 09 Nov 2011, 22:25
It does help communication between the genders when one side doesn't expect the other to be mind readers.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 09 Nov 2011, 22:37
I'm getting the feeling I helped tip off the latest drama batch, after my post on loaded questions. I really should have been clarified things, rather than sounding so broad. (Bad word.. Wide? No... Over-generalising). Having spent 3 years playing Referee between my engaged housemates on the Pro-Am Mind Games circuit, I'm equally misoygnist and misandrist: Basically, we're all crazy.

For me at least, it's a work in progress.

Hopefully, it is for everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Nov 2011, 23:35
Count the postings in this thread complaining about women. Then count the posts in which there are "all those women complaining" about men.

I don't see men complaining about women, or women complaining about men; I see people complaining about failures of communication.  Even when a stereotypical veneer of gender is overlaid on this, the complaint by its nature  is actually about both parties equally, whether they themselves see it that way or not.  Discussions like this go wrong when people start talking about the labels instead of the facts.

The "normality" of this complaining seems rather skewed, don't you think?

Bad statistics.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Nov 2011, 23:39
We are far from a random sample. 



No matter how random some of us seem! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: BluePaladin25 on 10 Nov 2011, 00:07
(click to show/hide)

EDIT: ROFL If I didn't know any better I'd think I was on drugs or something, hard to believe I wrote that just 5 minutes ago and was like "what do you mean I wrote that?! I'd never say anything like that!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 10 Nov 2011, 00:27
Discussions like this are exactly why I don't understand modern day emanzipation movements, either side...
Why try to align (compare and "make equal" .. I know, hopelessly generalized) shoes with pizza-cartons? (Or pears with apples)

These forced comparisons (though not always just male/female-related) are a thorn in my eye on many a system... schools as a big example.

edit:
@BluePaladin25:
Sometimes I feel just like that. But you often times get scolded for uttering this kind of inconvenient truth. Everybody's kinda fed up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 10 Nov 2011, 00:51
I'll just add to the excellent post of pwhodges that you should also try counting the number of posts complaining about men outside of this thread before you make a statement like that. If you're having trouble, may I suggest using the search term "nice guy"?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Schmorgluck on 10 Nov 2011, 01:16
I don't think intelligence has genders, but I'm pretty darn sure there are gendered kinds of stupidity. The "does this dress make me look fat?" question is a manifestation of female stupidity, and ought to be laughed at as shamelessly as a man harming himself transporting a piece of furniture because he was to proud to ask for help.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Nov 2011, 01:25
One person's stupidity is another person's obvious or "so what?".  Laughing at anyone for the nature of their thinking is a bad thing to do, and I suggest you reconsider what you've just written.

And I have male friends who would say: "does this make me look fat?" - it really is not a gender matter in spite of the stereotypes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Nov 2011, 01:39
"Honey, I think the more important question is how fast can you get out of them...race ya! <3 <3 <3"

worked once or twice...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 10 Nov 2011, 02:05
Well yeah, there's plenty of men who'd look at their belly in the mirror and go "honey, you think I've put on a few pounds?". I'd suspect, however, that most men expect an honest answer, while a lot of women may just be looking for a compliment.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: CompSarge on 10 Nov 2011, 02:18
My ex asked me the "Dress make me look fat" question several times (She was probably one of the skinniest people I'd met). I responded with "That's a gorgeous dress." Worked like a charm. Well, the first time, anyway...after that she caught on...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 10 Nov 2011, 02:25
Discussions like this are exactly why I don't understand modern day emanzipation movements, either side...
Why try to align (compare and "make equal" .. I know, hopelessly generalized) shoes with pizza-cartons? (Or pears with apples)

These forced comparisons (though not always just male/female-related) are a thorn in my eye on many a system... schools as a big example.

What does this mean?

I'll just add to the excellent post of pwhodges that you should also try counting the number of posts complaining about men outside of this thread before you make a statement like that. If you're having trouble, may I suggest using the search term "nice guy"?
A Nice Guytm is a kind of misogynist. It's like the term "white liberal" in that it addresses a certain kind of oppressor - even though those two kinds of oppression are very very different. "All men are a certain way and it's so annoying!" - that is sexist. "As a result of a sexist system centred on male privilege, there are men who behave like this and think it's justified, but it's not" - that is not sexism. The rants on women and the fat question I think are more like the former. Not that I think attacking just the Nice Guytm without attacking the system is productive, but you get my drift.

And again, what is up with looking for canned responses to a question for the sole purpose of getting someone to shut up? Sounds like fighting "mind games" with mind games to me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Schmorgluck on 10 Nov 2011, 02:51
"All men are a certain way and it's so annoying!" - that is sexist. "As a result of a sexist system centred on male privilege, there are men who behave like this and think it's justified, but it's not" - that is not sexism. The rants on women and the fat question I think are more like the former.
You should elaborate, because I fail to see how it's not more akin to the latter. This question is a brick in the gender wall, constitutive of the acquired miscommunication that perpetuates gender stereotypes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: CompSarge on 10 Nov 2011, 03:22
Comic's up! And not a moment too soon.

Geeeeez, Faye. I know you're drunk and all, but still. Not cool.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 10 Nov 2011, 03:30
It's looking more and more like Hanners is really psychic.  Either that or she has amazing reflexes for a drunk person.  It couldn't have been very long between the start of Faye's sentence and her eventual gagging by Hannelore's (now-sweaty) headband.  Hopefully it'll be a lesson Faye will remember for a while, however I doubt it. :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 10 Nov 2011, 03:33
I concurr, Hanners has cat's reflexes :-D

First she had her pepper-spray out within seconds when Padma "attacked" Faye and now this. (edit: omigod! I just realized that the only adequate explanation ist that Hanners received Bene Gesserit training  :psyduck:)
The facial expressions are gold!



Makes me wanna indulge in some secret wine too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: sluthy on 10 Nov 2011, 03:46
Is Tai coming home with them too? Panel 2 implies she is, but she's disappeared from 4 and 5.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Schmorgluck on 10 Nov 2011, 03:51
Is Tai coming home with them too? Panel 2 implies she is, but she's disappeared from 4 and 5.
I guess she has stuff to pack up before.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 10 Nov 2011, 04:15
The correct response to "Does this make me look fat?" is as follows:

Say "Hmmm, turn around, let me see you."

As she turns around, crane your neck to get a better look, then tilt your head and let your jaw drop slightly (keep it subtle though). Hold that for three seconds, then shake it off, blink a couple of times and say "I'm sorry, what?"

If she then asks for a response, compliment her shoes, necklace, earrings or other accesory that she is wearing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 10 Nov 2011, 04:16
It's looking more and more like Hanners is really psychic.  Either that or she has amazing reflexes for a drunk person. ...:

Hannelore is unstuck in time. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1393)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VyperX on 10 Nov 2011, 04:21
Wow, I really need to wake up... Took me almost 5 minutes before I realized what Faye was attempting to say.
Which is good, 'cause it means that Padma probably won't realize it at all.  :laugh:

Still, I don't think it would have been so bad if Faye had managed to slip it out... Padma would likely have missed the innuendo behind it and assumed they'd be busy with more drinking and dancing. But I guess it's for the best that Hanners interfered. Faye could/would have had a lot of fun dropping hints to Padma.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 10 Nov 2011, 04:33
Hanners is super-quick there is no doubt. Jeph's hard work in drawing all those figures in all those panels really pays off, and as someone said above, the expressions are excellent. What I wonder is, how far ahead did Jeph plan this? Did he have this gagging in mind when he first chose Hanners' costume days ago, or was it masterful improvisation?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 10 Nov 2011, 04:40
Discussions like this are exactly why I don't understand modern day emanzipation movements, either side...
Why try to align (compare and "make equal" .. I know, hopelessly generalized) shoes with pizza-cartons? (Or pears with apples)

These forced comparisons (though not always just male/female-related) are a thorn in my eye on many a system... schools as a big example.

What does this mean?
It means that trying to make women and men equal is a futile attempt. You can't even odds.
Its just that this entire "do you think I look fat in this?"-conversation, where women are trying to explain their side and men are trying to explain theirs dragging on seemingly forever has reminded me of that.

(See RSA Speaker Sir Ken Robinson on education paradigms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U) to get a clue of how I transitioned from this topic to the one about forced comparisons.)

Sorry, this was a drag for my brain, too.

@Comic:
Hanners has swift hands. And the eyes of a professional gagger/killer.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 10 Nov 2011, 04:45
The correct response to "Does this make me look fat?" is as follows:

Say "Hmmm, turn around, let me see you."

As she turns around, crane your neck to get a better look, then tilt your head and let your jaw drop slightly (keep it subtle though). Hold that for three seconds, then shake it off, blink a couple of times and say "I'm sorry, what?"

If she then asks for a response, compliment her shoes, necklace, earrings or other accesory that she is wearing.

That works, I also find that swift hug and kiss applied can allow you to avoid answering if you do it right.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Throg on 10 Nov 2011, 04:46
I was wondering about the headband gag too (both meanings of 'gag') -- but yup, Hannelore had that headband as part of her outfit right from the get-go.  
==
Also, the thing about magnets and piercings -- how the heck would that work for keeping a top in place, in lieu of double-sided tape? One accidental tug from a random person on the dance floor, and yowch.  Like someone tugging on a hoop earring.  
==
Will Marten get a little lovin'? Somehow I doubt: Jeph has too much fun tormenting Marten for the sake of a punchline.   :-(
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 10 Nov 2011, 04:52
Not to be pedantic, but Hannelore's headband sort of disappeared in the last panel... Apart from this minor detail, the artwork is top-notch. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: anabatica on 10 Nov 2011, 04:54
I didn't get the last panel at first because I initially interpreted it as two panels with the grey wall thing breaking it up.

Not to be pedantic, but Hannelore's headband sort of disappeared in the last panel... Apart from this minor detail, the artwork is top-notch. :)
What's she got in her hands? :P
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: sluthy on 10 Nov 2011, 05:00
This also isn't the first time Faye's had to be gagged  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1654).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Jabberwocky on 10 Nov 2011, 05:03
It's looking more and more like Hanners is really psychic.  Either that or she has amazing reflexes for a drunk person. ...:

Hannelore is unstuck in time. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1393)
So it goes.


Also, Tai is the only sober person in today's strip!?   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 10 Nov 2011, 05:21
Comic today is just perfect.

I have to agree with Akima in wondering how far-ahead that use of Hannelore's headband was planned.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2011, 06:17

This is so annoying. SO annoying. "Men are simple, straightforward and practical!"

<snip>

Ma'am (and I believe I'm using the right pronoun there, if not, my apologies), you can call it annoying all you want, but it won't make it any less true.

Men have a more linear "get from point A to point B" thought process. Women, in general, aren't as concerned about getting from point A to point B as they are about how they feel about point C.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2011, 06:18
It does help communication between the genders when one side doesn't expect the other to be mind readers.

This X 1,000,000,000,000,000.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 10 Nov 2011, 06:27
Love Tai's expression in the first panel.  It sort of looks like a cat's face, which is appropriate given Tai's typical glasses.

I'm not gonna touch the gender arguments in this thread.  That way lies madness, madness I tell you!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Nov 2011, 07:25
I was going to write this last night, but I have a bothersome tooth that was keeping me from focusing without pain meds...

For those looking, the question "do I look fat in this" does not  have an answer, because it's not a Q&A type question.  Rather, it's an invitation to a canversation. 

Those of you with quick or pat answers are ignoring that invitation at your own risk...

Re:  The comic. 

How many of you (besides me) thought Padma and Marten's hands are too close not  to be touching?  Yeah, they're off screen, but c'mon...

And Hanners probably just assumed that anything  Faye said after Padma's comment would need to be gagged.  More of an anticpatory reaction than actual mind reading...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 10 Nov 2011, 07:47
Ma'am (and I believe I'm using the right pronoun there, if not, my apologies), you can call it annoying all you want, but it won't make it any less true.

Men have a more linear "get from point A to point B" thought process. Women, in general, aren't as concerned about getting from point A to point B as they are about how they feel about point C.

I don't read that as anything other than saying women are logically impaired.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 10 Nov 2011, 07:50


How many of you (besides me) thought Padma and Marten's hands are too close not  to be touching?  Yeah, they're off screen, but c'mon...



Hehe. I mostly try to keep from reading too much into stuff like that, but yea, that got me too!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Throg on 10 Nov 2011, 08:16
So Faye calls Tai "small one", to her face, with a head pat, and no one's hollering "ZOMG CONDESCENSION!" ?      :-P

Chances are looking good Marten might possibly get a bit lucky -- if Pintsize / Faye / Dora / the need for a punchline / Eliot / Steve doesn't screw it up. 

On second thought, the odds are stacked against the poor dude...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Nov 2011, 08:18
Does Hannelore have superhuman reflexes due to genetic engineering? Angus said he'd literally never seen a human move that fast.

I think I see the root of some disagreement: if the correct answer to "Does this dress make me look fat?" were "Don't worry, dear, you look wonderful" then it could be chalked up to mastering social skills. For those who have been fortunate enough to be spared it, and decent enough not to come up with it on their own, there's a variant that involves taking offense at any possible answer.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Black Sword on 10 Nov 2011, 08:20
It seems Marten has become genre savvy enough about his role in Jeph's universe (aka cosmic plaything) that he knows his creator will grant him neither reprieve nor mercy. Which is too bad because I really wanted Marten to get some sweet, sweet Padma loving.

Poor Marten. *pats poor lad on the back*

EDIT: Wait one angry-thread-filled-with-gender-rants-and-recriminations minute, where did Tai go? Our little polyamorous friend declined to join in shenanigans fueled by secret wine?!?! I cannot approve. :-(
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 10 Nov 2011, 08:29
Ma'am (and I believe I'm using the right pronoun there, if not, my apologies), you can call it annoying all you want, but it won't make it any less true.

Men have a more linear "get from point A to point B" thought process. Women, in general, aren't as concerned about getting from point A to point B as they are about how they feel about point C.
I don't read that as anything other than saying women are logically impaired.

[ ... ] there's a variant that involves taking offense at any possible answer.

I disagree with jwhouk. Any generalizing theory defeats the purpose of the discussion at hand... which in turn ultimately seems to be searching for a generalizing theory... to me, by logic, this entire discussion is (and always was) senseless/absurd now ... °_o

Aaaaaaand I'm out.

edit:
Why is Tai always gone? ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 10 Nov 2011, 08:55
Jeez guys. A character doesn't need to be in every single panel  for us to know they're there. Jeph established Tai was there with the first two panels and figures we're smart enough to just assume she's there from then on. I guess he overestimated some people. Why should he waste time drawing her if she has no reason to be in the panel?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: stoutfiles on 10 Nov 2011, 08:59
So Faye calls Tai "small one", to her face, with a head pat, and no one's hollering "ZOMG CONDESCENSION!" ?      :-P

Chances are looking good Marten might possibly get a bit lucky -- if Pintsize / Faye / Dora / the need for a punchline / Eliot / Steve doesn't screw it up. 

On second thought, the odds are stacked against the poor dude...

Well, she said it as a compliment and she's physically taller and larger than Tai.  I would also argue that girls don't mind as much being small, if Faye was referred to as "fat one" by a skinnier character she wouldn't take it as well.  Guys in general don't like being called "lil guy", especially by girls.  Might as well just say "you're pretty pathetic and I'm not attracted to you at all".  Unless adults that are comparable to little kids is a turn on, lil guy is not a compliment.

If Padma does hook up with Marten it would be pretty slutty of her, and crappy of her since word would get back to Elliot.  "Hey, I don't like you, but I slept with that guy you confessed your secret to and who advised you to confess your feelings to me.  Haha!"  Then again, I don't think much of her anyway so whatever.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 10 Nov 2011, 09:15
Also, Tai is the only sober person in today's strip!?   :psyduck:

She finally beat the Sucker Rule.

And Hanners seem to know what's next in Panel 4.. more evidence for her Time powers.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Nov 2011, 10:04
Dora called Tai "my favorite tiny person". If Tai's not offended, then I'm not.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Nov 2011, 10:13
Re: "Does this dress make me look fat?"

I think we can all agree that there's at least one wrong answer: "It's not the dress."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Interlude on 10 Nov 2011, 10:17
If Padma does hook up with Marten it would be pretty slutty of her, and crappy of her since word would get back to Elliot.  "Hey, I don't like you, but I slept with that guy you confessed your secret to and who advised you to confess your feelings to me.  Haha!"  Then again, I don't think much of her anyway so whatever.

I don't think there's any reason to bring Elliot into this. It's between Marten and Padma. On the other hand, I have no idea why anyone would act as if he's either going to get "lucky" or he's NOT going to get "lucky" due to some ill-fated intervention. (Or because Jeph likes toying with him.) They barely know each other. They have only participated in a few activities outside of her work environment. None of these have even been official dates. We have no idea what she is thinking, and she has shown no clear signs of liking Marten in that way. (I'm not saying that she doesn't, but right now it is all speculation.) Not to mention the fact that she is moving. So why on earth would anyone be pushing for them to have sex? Luckily, Marten does not have that attitude. I think he would be happy just having a special moment with someone he likes. I do hope he gets that, even though I really don't like Padma.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 10 Nov 2011, 10:26
Is it just me or is anyone else seeing something - for lack of a better word - "romantic" in that look Marten and Padma exchange in Panel 1? (Or is she looking past Marten to where speech is happening? I'm not sure.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Nov 2011, 11:08
Secret wine.......lemme guess, Faye has a huge glass bottle in her closet with fermented dollar store grape juice and bakers yeast in it with a retort?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Overkillengine on 10 Nov 2011, 11:11
Here I thought this was just perfectly normal stuff to gripe about. I guess I just imagined all those women complaining about how inexpressive their men were, how stubborn and unwilling to directly ask for help etc etc. I must be off my meds.
Count the postings in this thread complaining about women. Then count the posts in which there are "all those women complaining" about men. Oh wait, there's only my single posting. The "normality" of this complaining seems rather skewed, don't you think?

See, always asking questions we can't answer. :lol:
Hee hee... :-D   On the contrary, it is a question you don't need to answer!

Well, please keep in mind the conditions under which the dialogue you are referring in this forum is occurring. This is a place where a male might possibly be able to vent frustration at seemingly illogical/arbitrary expectations for communication with the opposite gender - without facing undue castigation for daring to be anything other than a confident alpha male; like they would if they expressed the same frustration in a face to face encounter. Also, demographics bias or something. It's possible there might just be a lot of male readers of this comic, who knows?

Many men have to live with the fear of screwing up communication with a woman and not getting to even express it in any manner considered socially acceptable [for a male] in "real life" on a constant basis; so there can be quite an outpouring when they are finally in a situation where consequence is far more lenient; after all, one can just make another forum account.

Also, more big words to make me feel smarterer.  :roll:

So I'll use the oft referred to example: You could be with one of the sweetest, most wonderful women you've ever been with.....who also happens to be 5'0" and 300 lbs, and she'll still ask that damned question, which forces a man to either lie, evade, or hurt her feelings. Yes, we can understand the intent of the question, but the execution is borderline sadistic. That's what is so frustrating to so many of us- there are far better ways to get the desired results from us without doing that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 10 Nov 2011, 11:29
For comic #2054...

1. Hah, another "gag" gag for Faye.  I could get used to this running gag (as funny humor, you perverted minds who thought such "other" things even before finishing reading this).

2. The "gag" gag was made even funnier by Hannelore being the one to do it this time.  It is great to see Hanners able to be so bold against our southern punching belle.

3. Three out of four characters now have drunk bubbles. We know Tai does not handle her drinking well, and the four are heading back to Marten & Faye's place for "secret wine"...  One or more characters may be headed towards a pantless morning... :evil:

4. @Soulsynger...  Looking at panel #1 again, it could go either way.  Marten is looking at Padma, yes.  But Padma could be looking at either Hannelore or meeting Marten's eyes.  Only Jeph knows for sure.  And Tai may not be gone, but the rum always is.

5. And I just saw Jeph's Manga Studio fun-draw with a Fart-chan "shoujo"(?)in his Tumblr (http://jephjacques.com/post/12602554680/while-messing-around-in-manga-studio-this-thing).  Stupid Shinji, confessing to a worshipper of Warhammer's Khorne gets you naught but unsatisfying slaughter.  Confessing to one of Slaanesh on the other hand...well, still slaughter (welcome to Warhammer, Fantasy &/or 40,000), but at least you might get some pleasure out of it.



6. "Does this dress make me look fat?" :-D

 a. Yes, it does!  Remove it immediately, for we must have torrid sweaty sex to erase its image from both our minds!

 b. No, it does not.  Remove it immediately, for now we must now have torrid sweaty sex.

 c. Yes, it does.  This is good, for no others may have temptful, desirous thoughts about you but me.

 d. No, it does not.  [while tightly encircling her with both arms from behind] Change into one that does, for you are mine.

 e. Yes, it does.  I leave the room now to go slay the fashion designer whose dress has impugned your figure and honor.

 f. No, dear.  It makes me look fat.  *breaks down, both-hands-covering-face sobbing* baaaa huh huh huhhh...waaah huh huh uhhh
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TRVA123 on 10 Nov 2011, 11:32
It bothers me that the people in the gender discussion seem to be looking at everyone as a woman (or man) first, and as a person second.

People are different. Some people play mind games, some people don't. I don't think this is restricted to either gender. I've known both men and women who thought differently, or from a very emotional perspective, just as I've known women and men who are highly logical. I don't associate their thinking modes with their gender.

While there are some things that society pushes on a person's gender, just as there are some things society pushes on a specific race or nationality, I don't think its fair to say that that behavior is part of a persons nature. (is it true that white people, by their very nature, can't dance? or that men, by their very nature, can fix cars?)

There probably is a fair amount of women who ask "does this make me look fat?" because they've been told by society that "you're a women, and women ask this question" But there are also women who ask that question because the structure of the dress might not be that flattering to their body, and they want a second opinion. Preferably the opinion of someone who has seen them in a variety of settings and who isn't selling the dress to them.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 10 Nov 2011, 12:12
On the topic of Hannelore's reflexes, it seems to me that Hannelore saw what was coming back in panel 4. She is preparing the gag in the very next panel. Why else do you think Marten is thanking her? He saw it coming as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Overkillengine on 10 Nov 2011, 12:15
Re: Gender discussion

It is what it is.

I don't like it either, thus why I take the effort to try to explain why asking someone a question they will get punished for answering truthfully, untruthfully, or not all, is not exactly the most constructive way to obtain the desired results.

Yes, it would be nice if man knew his woman well enough to know ahead to time what the desired result is when she asks such a thing. Just as it would be nice if a  woman knew her man well enough to not need to ask in the first place.

But neither gender is born able to read minds. Which confounds the whole thing when different individuals are seeking different results with the same question.

---------

OK, time to get on topic for the comic: Hannelore's timing for saving people from even more embarrassment at Faye's hands is wonderfully impeccable. Is it part of her psychic powers? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 10 Nov 2011, 12:38
Count the postings in this thread complaining about women. Then count the posts in which there are "all those women complaining" about men. Oh wait, there's only my single posting. The "normality" of this complaining seems rather skewed, don't you think?

It's a webcomic forum.  Count the posts that are by women, and square it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: StevenC on 10 Nov 2011, 13:06
It took me some time to notice that the last panel is not two panels next to each other. So I was asking myself why Marten thanked Hanners before she did anything.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 10 Nov 2011, 13:34
It took me some time to notice that the last panel is not two panels next to each other. So I was asking myself why Marten thanked Hanners before she did anything.

Ooops! I only just realised that myself.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: GeoCorn on 10 Nov 2011, 13:48
I really don't think Faye needs any more alcohol in her system today... lol
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 10 Nov 2011, 14:01
On the topic of Hannelore's reflexes, it seems to me that Hannelore saw what was coming back in panel 4. She is preparing the gag in the very next panel. Why else do you think Marten is thanking her? He saw it coming as well.

Hmmmmm.  Does that make them FayePsychic?


And one has to be grateful for Hanners reflexes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 10 Nov 2011, 14:08
Concerning genders, mind reading and whatnot...

Most couples expect the other to understand stuff implicitly, male or female. One example... my girlfriend asked me to "think about dinner", which I did. What she didn't say, and what she actually meant, was: "plan dinner, go grocery shopping and make dinner", which I didn't. Another example: We were sitting on the couch, and I wanted her to give me the playstation controller so I could play some playstation, so I said "I feel like playing some playstation", by which I actually meant: "can you hand me the controller", since it was laying right next to her and I couldn't reach it. In both cases it ended with us feeling that the other was selfish, careless, etc... but it was just that I expected her to think like me, and she did the same. Which is a pretty serious mistake. She doesn't play playstation and I don't (I shamefully admit) often make dinner.

On the whole though, I'm pretty sure women on the whole communicate less straightforwardly and more through unspoken things that both parties somehow take for granted, than men do. I don't know why, it might be that society expect girls to communicate like that and expect men to just straight up say what they want, but it's the truth. I wouldn't necessarily say it's biological.

And the "let women be women and men be men" sentiment really smells worse than a dead racoon in a sauna. Let's leave such ideas where they belong: In the 1930s.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 10 Nov 2011, 14:23
On the topic of Hannelore's reflexes, it seems to me that Hannelore saw what was coming back in panel 4. She is preparing the gag in the very next panel. Why else do you think Marten is thanking her? He saw it coming as well.
I wondered that too, based on Hanners' facial expression. Whether she was simply reacting to the "stuff Pintsize in the cupbord" remark, or foreseeing trouble ahead. Either way, Hanners still moved very quickly. She didn't get any "off-screen" time to prepare. The reading order of the speech-bubbles in the last panel is a bit tricky, especially with that strong vertical line in the middle tending to direct the eye down from Padma's line to Marten's, but I can't think of another layout that would work better.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 10 Nov 2011, 14:43
Yeah, I agree that there probably isn't a better layout - it was just that vertical line that fooled me into thinking it was two panels.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Nov 2011, 14:43
Generalizations about any group which includes both Paris Hilton and Marie Curie are doomed from the start.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2011, 15:10
Ma'am (and I believe I'm using the right pronoun there, if not, my apologies), you can call it annoying all you want, but it won't make it any less true.

Men have a more linear "get from point A to point B" thought process. Women, in general, aren't as concerned about getting from point A to point B as they are about how they feel about point C.

I don't read that as anything other than saying women are logically impaired.

No, they aren't, just as men aren't "feelings impaired". In the US, at least, men haven't been "taught" to be concerned about feelings, just as (it seems, anyways) that women haven't been "taught" to have a linear thought process.

A lot of the problems that come up from this issue, though, do tend to diminish when people talk to each other - without judging or jumping to conclusions.

(Psst: don't go there, I'm a counselor. Really.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2011, 15:16
How drunk will Marten get?
Dancing Fool Drunk.    - 19 (23.5%)
Drunker than Faye.    - 8 (9.9%)
Sucker Rule Violation Drunk.    - 10 (12.3%)
Attempted Makeout with Faye Drunk.    - 6 (7.4%)
Attempted Makeout with Tai Drunk.    - 6 (7.4%)
Hospitalized (trying to drunk makeout with Hanners).    - 5 (6.2%)
Everclear drunk.    - 1 (1.2%)
Raven drunk (two Shirley Temples).    - 7 (8.6%)
Waffle House drunk.    - 10 (12.3%)
MOAR BUTTS!!!!!1!!1    - 9 (11.1%)

Total Voters: 81
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Nov 2011, 15:25
Secret wine.......lemme guess, Faye has a huge glass bottle in her closet with fermented dollar store grape juice and bakers yeast in it with a retort?

Have you ever smelled something of that sort?  It would not  be a secret. 


Tai's probably packing up, and will meet them at their place later for wine...

...aaand who knows what she'll interrupt. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 10 Nov 2011, 15:28
Perhaps a bottle of rosé instead.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 10 Nov 2011, 15:54
Secret wine.......lemme guess, Faye has a huge glass bottle in her closet with fermented dollar store grape juice and bakers yeast in it with a retort?

Have you ever smelled something of that sort?  It would not  be a secret. 


Tai's probably packing up, and will meet them at their place later for wine...

...aaand who knows what she'll interrupt. 

I'm guessing Faye's wine is somewhat akin to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_wine).

Probably learned how to make it in prison, too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2011, 15:55
And yes, we have a new poll.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Tova on 10 Nov 2011, 16:08
That's remarkably symmetrical. Probably won't be that way much longer, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Overkillengine on 10 Nov 2011, 16:19
That's remarkably symmetrical. Probably won't be that way much longer, though.

I felt compelled to vote on the center one for that very reason.

Must...keep...symmetry.

And now someone had to go and ruin it. *eye tic*
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Nov 2011, 16:57
It is what it is.
Am I the only person who hates this phrase?  Anytime someone says this about something inconvenient or undesirable, it never fails to come off as saying "sure it sucks, but since I'm not willing to do anything about it, you shouldn't be either."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Overkillengine on 10 Nov 2011, 17:07
I hate the situations that make me use it more.


And it's not a lack of willingness, more like a lack of ability to change anything on a meaningful scale and not really knowing where to begin as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2011, 17:59
Perhaps a bottle of rosé instead.
Good, someone picked up on the reference.

"Marten and Dora were out the door-a already in the summer of 20-oh-five..."

EDIT: Oh, and you guys really should go look up International Exports Ltd. in Milwaukee. It's a fun place to go.

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Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 10 Nov 2011, 20:03
Yeah, I agree that there probably isn't a better layout - it was just that vertical line that fooled me into thinking it was two panels.

I must admit, I read the strip this morning, didn't get it, and had to come back this evening. I throw myself on the mercy of the court that I've been feeling pretty crappy all day. :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 10 Nov 2011, 21:22
Secret wine.......lemme guess, Faye has a huge glass bottle in her closet with fermented dollar store grape juice and bakers yeast in it with a retort?

Have you ever smelled something of that sort?  It would not  be a secret. 

Especially after the huge glass bottle explodes.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Dust on 10 Nov 2011, 22:36
Secret wine.......lemme guess, Faye has a huge glass bottle in her closet with fermented dollar store grape juice and bakers yeast in it with a retort?

Have you ever smelled something of that sort?  It would not  be a secret. 

Especially after the huge glass bottle explodes.

That's when it becomes a Chateau Surprisé.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Vurogj on 10 Nov 2011, 22:45
How many of you (besides me) thought Padma and Marten's hands are too close not  to be touching?  Yeah, they're off screen, but c'mon...
As an aside, in the sketch layer for panel 4 (or 5? the last panel anyway), Padma was stood slightly further away from Marten. I have to assume Jeph moved her over when he realised what her arm was pointing directly at...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2011, 01:15
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Responses like that are ... nah, won't go there.

Anyways - I do wonder what the "secret wine" is. Shoulda put "Grape Kool-aid" as an option. :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Moonsaves on 11 Nov 2011, 01:21
Perhaps it's a nice bottle of chianti.

With some fava beans.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 11 Nov 2011, 02:13
Dialogue in a scene is always read left to right, top to bottom.

So if a dialogue box is, as in the last panel, at the bottom, it happends last.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Nov 2011, 02:22
I don't think people are comic-reading impaired since yesterday, they just mistook a set of straight lines in a panel for a gutter and read accordingly. (comic gutters... a topic I think Jeph found one of the most elegant solutions I've found on the web to.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: guayec on 11 Nov 2011, 02:43
is anyone looking at the ustream channel where jeph is drawing? omg omg omg omg!!!! :psyduck:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Nov 2011, 02:46
Jeph did warn in the chat that a spoiler was coming up - though at the time the stream wasn't streaming at all...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Nov 2011, 02:49
Good idea; note the second quote in my sig...  Not that sense is what will come, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 11 Nov 2011, 03:03
OMG I'm at work and I can't see the ustream, are we talking about a  :-o or a  :psyduck: situation here?!?!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Nov 2011, 03:04
I will never watch that stream again. I horribly spoiler'd myself (note: thats sPoilERED, not soiled) and ruined my weekend. Dangnabbit.

edit:
@akronnick:
 :-o
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Nov 2011, 03:21
As Dora said (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=564): "[relationships] don't have to be [complicated]".
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Welu on 11 Nov 2011, 03:23
I tried to see the stream but it didn't come up. I wasn't spoiler'd so I squee'd happily!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 11 Nov 2011, 03:26
This may be the first first kiss in QC history that both characters saw it coming and where ready for it.

Way to go Marten!!!!!!! :-D :-o :mrgreen: :wink: :evil: :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Skaltura on 11 Nov 2011, 03:31
This may be the first first kiss in QC history that both characters saw it coming and where ready for it.

Way to go Marten!!!!!!! :-D :-o :mrgreen: :wink: :evil: :laugh:

I would even go one step further and theorize that Marten was the one who initiated it (his hands are already stroking her cheek!). Also, I thought Hanners "YELLLING" to be really funny somehow.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Nov 2011, 03:37
Moment of the week:
Faye: SECRET WINE TIME!
Tai: WOO
Hanners: YELLING

I lol'd.

Way to go Marten, indeed. A long way to where Padma is going. (Oooh, have I killed the mood?  :-P )
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 11 Nov 2011, 03:38
I would even go one step further and theorize that Marten was the one who initiated it (his hands are already stroking her cheek!). Also, I thought Hanners "YELLLING" to be really funny somehow.

But her hand is on the back of his head, pulling/holding him close, and with her body language in the previous panels she's definately ready to make a move. Marten, for once in his life, actually read the signals right.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 11 Nov 2011, 03:40
Wooooo, Marty :-D

Congrats, dude.
Even though you´re not a real person and whatnot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2011, 03:41
YAAAAYYYY for Marten and Padma!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2011, 03:42
Also, very cool trick with the alcohol/romance bubbles, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 11 Nov 2011, 03:43
Finally Marten gets some action! Guess everyone who said Padma had no interest in Marten were a bit off-including me.

Of course, it could simply be a case of Man+Woman+Alcohol=FIREWORKS!!! But I think the alcohol just facilitated things here, not created something out of nothing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Irenfrea on 11 Nov 2011, 03:44
As the great thinker Pintsize said once...


FRIGGIN' FINALLY!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 11 Nov 2011, 03:46
Check Jeph's tumblr (http://jephjacques.com/post/12637732688/honk) for an alternate final panel, inspired by will happen to this thread by Sunday.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Deadlywonky on 11 Nov 2011, 03:50
1. will pintsize ruin this moment?

2. is this a 'last night in town moment'

3. will Hanners freak when she sees what's going on/infers what will happen later?

4. MOAR WINE!

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Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: stoutfiles on 11 Nov 2011, 03:51
The rule of Marten is that good things only happen to Marten if it sets up something worse.  Now Marten will be attached to a girl who's leaving soon, that's fun.  Not to mention how pleased Elliot will be when he finds out this happened.

I also have a tough time fathoming why Padma likes Marten at all since she's shown no romantic interest in him until this point.  She's talked about herself only until this comic, and she's immediately bored by Marten's pipe dreams when she finally lets him speak.  If you're going to hook Marten up with someone, at least set it up to be believable!  I have to assume that Padma is very loose when drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 11 Nov 2011, 03:52
Who the f**king hell cares?


Certainly not me. :-)


C U on monday.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: sluthy on 11 Nov 2011, 03:56
Comics don't often make me actually chuckle, but "YELLING" really did. Last time that happened was Marten's reaction to Fleshlight Pintsize. And before that, Psycho Dora made me look like a goose at work chuckling at my phone like an idiot.

Waiting for Faye to come back in and spoil it :-D. "Marty, did you want any-WOOOOO!!! SEXY TIMES!!!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 11 Nov 2011, 04:00
Well, whaever happens in the forum over the weekend, Monday's strip will turn it on its ear. That's my prediction.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: El_Flesh on 11 Nov 2011, 04:04
That's a pretty quick turnaround time for ol Marty there....
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Delator on 11 Nov 2011, 04:07
This may be the first first kiss in QC history that both characters saw it coming and where ready for it.

That was my first thought as well.

Well, whaever happens in the forum over the weekend, Monday's strip will turn it on its ear. That's my prediction.

No bet!  :lol:

I'm not going to make any predictions for once. I loved the set up, so we'll see where it goes from here.

EDIT: I lied...I'll make one prediction. Whoever tells her, Dora will not take the news well.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 11 Nov 2011, 04:08
The rule of Marten is that good things only happen to Marten if it sets up something worse.  Now Marten will be attached to a girl who's leaving soon, that's fun.  Not to mention how pleased Elliot will be when he finds out this happened.


Hey Elliot had his chance, and apparently blew it a LONG time ago. Marten really owes him nothing, it's not like they're long-term friends or anything, they're not much more than acquaintances. Not that any of this will stop Marten from agonizing about Elliot's feelings when he sobers up though.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Nov 2011, 04:14
Hey Elliot had his chance, and apparently blew it a LONG time ago. Marten really owes him nothing, it's not like they're long-term friends or anything, they're not much more than acquaintances. Not that any of this will stop Marten from agonizing about Elliot's feelings when he sobers up though.
Dude... they wore victorian garment together... with HATS AND EVERYTHING! How can that not count as something?

This is starting to smell like the Faye-Dora+-Marten situation all over again... Elliot at Marten's door all like "TWO DAYS?! TWO FRIGGIN DAYS?!" ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2011, 04:15
EDIT: I lied...I'll make one prediction. Whoever tells her, Dora will not take the news well.  :psyduck:

Huh... I can't really see Dora making a fuss about this. But maybe you're right, we'll find out soon enough. Oh, who am I kidding, we won't find out for FAR TOO LONG!  :|
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Welu on 11 Nov 2011, 04:20
I also have a tough time fathoming why Padma likes Marten at all since she's shown no romantic interest in him until this point.  She's talked about herself only until this comic, and she's immediately bored by Marten's pipe dreams when she finally lets him speak.

I don't think she's saying she's actually bored by him. Just in that he's talking while they're both looking at each other like they would rather be kissing. She's looking at him quite intently while he's talking and Marten got the cue.

Right now, them kissing is a good thing. Wait till the bad thing happens (if/when it does) before we start complaining.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Deadlywonky on 11 Nov 2011, 04:26
ooh, just had a thought. Dora went on a date with Jim, now Marten is making sloppy kisses with Jim's employee. I can easily imagine Dora getting riled up by that, along the lines of the Faye/Sven couplet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 11 Nov 2011, 04:32
Dora's right to get riled up about what Marten does ended with the relationship.

If she wanted it she shoulda put a ring on it, figuratively speaking.

Doesn't mean she won't have an emotional reaction, but if she gives Marten (or Faye as a proxy, or Hanners) any shit over this situation, I don't even want to know her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SPK on 11 Nov 2011, 04:42
Now one thing I'm wondering - would this give the slightest impetus towards Marten having a desire to go back to the west coast with Padma?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 11 Nov 2011, 04:48
The rule of Marten is that good things only happen to Marten if it sets up something worse.  Now Marten will be attached to a girl who's leaving soon, that's fun.  Not to mention how pleased Elliot will be when he finds out this happened.

Indeed.  Now, if Padma wasn't already planning on moving away I'd advise Elliot to just deal with it, but as it stands now he's just one more complication in an already existing mess.  Marten's setting himself up for a huge fall IMHO, and all he'll have to show for it in a couple of weeks is the knowledge that he made Elliot uncomfortable for pretty much nothing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Somebody on 11 Nov 2011, 04:48
Countdown to Padma laughing at Marten's penis in five, four...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Moonsaves on 11 Nov 2011, 04:54
THE NICE GUY WINS

...Though I'm interested to see the fallout.

Note to self: acquire "secret wine"
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 11 Nov 2011, 04:54
As Dora said (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=564): "[relationships] don't have to be [complicated]".
That was not true for the Dora + Marten relationship, though.


This may be the first first kiss in QC history that both characters saw it coming and where ready for it.

Way to go Marten!!!!!!! :-D :-o :mrgreen: :wink: :evil: :laugh:
Pfft I dont think Padma saw that one coming. She hasnt expressed any interest in Marten before. I wonder if she's simply drunk.


This is starting to smell like the Faye-Dora+-Marten situation all over again... Elliot at Marten's door all like "TWO DAYS?! TWO FRIGGIN DAYS?!" ...
Thats not a thing we men do.


Hey Elliot had his chance, and apparently blew it a LONG time ago.
The what now ? Elliot hasnt asked her out until recently.


EDIT: I lied...I'll make one prediction. Whoever tells her, Dora will not take the news well.  :psyduck:

Huh... I can't really see Dora making a fuss about this. But maybe you're right, we'll find out soon enough. Oh, who am I kidding, we won't find out for FAR TOO LONG!  :|
Uh hu.

"Hey Dora, Marten has replaced you with a clone that mostly looks exactly like you, except she's black and characterwise she's kinda clueless."


Marten's setting himself up for a huge fall IMHO, [...]
Possible, but not automatically so. Padma could decide she wants to stay now. Or grandma could die before Padma actually moves. Etc.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Throg on 11 Nov 2011, 04:55
These characters are fictional! Not even ink on a page (unless you ordered one of the volumes) -- they're pixels on the Internet! Not! Real!
And yet, I was still thinking "Go Marty!"   :lol:  :-D   :laugh:

The Secret Wine triumvirate was classic. Also Faye's gentle herding-everybody-out-let-them-have-some-space.  

Somehow, I think Marten's character would be sad to see Padma go, but mature enough to understand a last-night-in-town, no-strings-attached mentality (if that is what Padma's up to). And Marten seems centered enough not to follow her all the way out to the west coast; that was barely-out-of-college-kid behavior.  

Who knows how many ways this could go, but it's interesting that the three other women in the apartment have the *least* motivations, for once, for screwing things up: Faye (sister), Hannelore (little sister), and Tai (supervisor, and also this further clears the way for a shot at Dora).  

For that matter, it's kinda odd that of all the women go get attracted to, it's Dora's 'doppleganger'.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Deadlywonky on 11 Nov 2011, 04:57
akronnick, I agree with you, she doesn't have any right to be upset about this or any situation like it. I'm just saying that based on previous form; it is predictable that she will react badly, unless therapy has been going really well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Nov 2011, 04:58
Ahhhhh.. good comic. Now I'm ready for a fucking weekend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Nov 2011, 05:01
As Dora said (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=564): "[relationships] don't have to be [complicated]".
That was not true for the Dora + Marten relationship, though.

Oh, I meant you to realise that when I quoted it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 11 Nov 2011, 05:02
A curious comic, with the laughs at the beginning, not the end. YELLING!

Marten, for once in his life, actually read the signals right.
Padma is aiming the 100MW sexy-look at him in panel six*. If he didn't read that...

*And a very nicely drawn sexy-look too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Throg on 11 Nov 2011, 05:05
This may be the first first kiss in QC history that both characters saw it coming and where ready for it.

Way to go Marten!!!!!!! :-D :-o :mrgreen: :wink: :evil: :laugh:
Pfft I dont think Padma saw that one coming. She hasnt expressed any interest in Marten before. I wonder if she's simply drunk.

Well, maybe Padma's been more subtle about it: Dora had been very obvious, and telegraphed her intentions to other characters, etc. It was harder for Jeph to display Padma's inner thoughts without giving her a monologue or, frankly, repeating the Dora/Marten storyline somewhat.  Besides, Padma has (a) invited Marten hiking, (b) looked concerned when Eliot dragged him off, (c) was upfront about leaving for the West Coast, (d) told a relative stranger about the reason she was leaving for the West Coast, and (e) invited Marten out dancing.  That adds up to fairly steady interest.

"Hey Dora, Marten has replaced you with a clone that mostly looks exactly like you, except she's black and characterwise she's kinda clueless."

...Indian, not black. There is a difference.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 11 Nov 2011, 05:07
Well, I'm going to go ahead and agree with stoutfiles insofar as this is not under any circumstances going to lead to something good. Everything after this moment will be full of people hastily trying to deal with the aftermath of this moment.
Personally, I think the best case scenario is that Marten pulls off a much less harsh version of Angus's rejection of Marigold (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1631), since although it might not seem like a very nice thing to do in the short term, it will probably be seen as the best decision in the long run.

The worst, and in my opinion more likely scenario, is Faye, Tai or Hannelore walking back in on them and reacting badly.
In any case, the moment itself was sweet, but the aftermath will probably bring all kinds of trouble.
I don't feel that now is the time to push the panic button (and I do have a panic button lying around somewhere), but there may come a time fairly soon...


Despite all of this talking about the kiss, I'm still voting for Hannelore's "YELLING" as the Moment of the Week. I suspect the poll will contest almost entirely between those two options.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Nov 2011, 05:10
"Good" is a relative term. I don't think Marten expects/hopes for this to turn into a relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: ElvisRevenge on 11 Nov 2011, 05:13
Looks like Dolly "Parten" finally became a thing!

Get it? Padma + Marten = Parten, Dolly Parton, et al?

I'm damn good.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 11 Nov 2011, 05:19
These characters are fictional! Not even ink on a page (unless you ordered one of the volumes) -- they're pixels on the Internet! Not! Real!
And yet, I was still thinking "Go Marty!"   :lol:  :-D   :laugh:


You're so new around here!!! :-D

Looks like Dolly "Parten" finally became a thing!

Get it? Padma + Marten = Parten, Dolly Parton, et al?

I'm damn good.

m-/

(That’s the emoticon for “facepalm”. Use it. Spread it. It’s really useful.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Vurogj on 11 Nov 2011, 05:25
In amongst all the other stuff (Go Marty, well done, Hanners steals a strip with a SINGLE WORD, Padma is still cute and I still don't much like her personality), where did Hanners' headband go? I was sure I saw it around Faye's neck in the stream, but don't see it now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 11 Nov 2011, 05:28
Hm, I always thought Dora's thing was being unpredictable. Such that people tip-toe tip-toe around an issue, and then she doesn't end up freaking out about it.

Her reason for breaking up with Marten was her jealousy issues. She did it so she wouldn't have to feel insecure about him liking other people, like, that was the biggest reason for doing it. Even if she feels kinda shitty about it, she would have to be an idiot to not recognise how it would make her look if she caused a shitstorm.

Does anybody have an example of when she went crazy even after having time to calmly weigh up the issues and gain some perspective?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Nov 2011, 05:31
I'm damn good.

m-/

Facepalm emoticon FTW!

I don't know what to think about the kiss. Let them cherish the moment, and see what happens.

YELLINNNNGGGG!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 11 Nov 2011, 05:45
this is not under any circumstances going to lead to something good.

At the absolute least, I think it'll lead to a bit more kissing. That sounds like something good to me. Kissing is fun times.

I love this comic. Lots of great touches, like Hanners' "YELLING", Padma slowly moving closer to Marty, the drunk bubbles forming hearts. The whole thing is very well played (and drawn).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Nov 2011, 05:50
Are they even kissing yet? It looks a bit like they are only VERY close in the last panel... depending on what happens on monday, they might still be interrupted before any kissing (in whatever fashion) takes place. oO
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sylentknight on 11 Nov 2011, 05:51
First, Yayy Marten! :-D

Second, someone stated how this Marten+Padma+Elliot dynamic is, I assume, no different than the Marten+Faye+Angus dynamic and I have to say I agree. If Padma doesn't see Elliot as anything other than a friend (Faye+Marten), then that's that. Marten+Padma not getting together won't change the Padma+Elliot dynamic.

Third, I don't think Marten and Padma getting intimate will change anything. We're not talking love here (at least I should hope not - too soon), just attraction. I expect Padma to continue to her grandmother's and Marten to continue with his life there. There may be some Elliot fall-out if he ever finds out but there is no reason he should.

(However, I do expect that the smile on Marten's face and the bounce in his step to be a dead give-away when Dora sees him. I don't expect her to get mad, just notice.) :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: BlueMark on 11 Nov 2011, 05:55
Faye may be drunk, and need Hanners to substitute for an internal censor, but I think she is still functioning at a surprisingly high level - she got Padma to go home with Marten and then got the rest of the crowd out of the way with the secret wine quest. Also, Pintsize is nowhere to be found.  I suspect he is sleeping with the waffles.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Nov 2011, 05:56
(However, I do expect that the smile on Marten's face and the bounce in his step to be a dead give-away when Dora sees him. I don't expect her to get mad, just notice.) :laugh:
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang!-time!
And booty-dance!

Been a while already... again. :D

Also, this might lead to some danger to the public calm (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=575)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2011, 05:57
...Indian, not black. There is a difference.

Last time I checked, black was a colour, not a form of ethnicity.  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VyperX on 11 Nov 2011, 06:01
Glad to see the lil' guy enjoying a happy moment. :)
Whatever happens afterwards (and there's bound to be some fallout, it's QC after all), moments like these are what people live for, right? Finding happiness and clinging to it for as long as possible....  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 11 Nov 2011, 06:03
...Indian, not black. There is a difference.

Last time I checked, black was a colour, not a form of ethnicity.  :wink:

Uh... and last time I checked, black is the colour of Padma's hair, not her skin. If you're going to use that line of argument, it's more accurate to call Africans brown than Indians black...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 11 Nov 2011, 06:05
Marten has totally a duckface on panel 6  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: billydaking on 11 Nov 2011, 06:07
I also have a tough time fathoming why Padma likes Marten at all since she's shown no romantic interest in him until this point.  She's talked about herself only until this comic, and she's immediately bored by Marten's pipe dreams when she finally lets him speak.  If you're going to hook Marten up with someone, at least set it up to be believable!  I have to assume that Padma is very loose when drunk.

She isn't immediately bored. She's actually not bored at all. She initiates the conversation, asks him questions about it, and then clues Marten into the fact that, hey, I may want to kiss you. If you're bored with someone, you tolerate and either try to divert the conversation elsewhere or excuse yourself.

And yeah, Padma has shown interest in Marten before. On the hike, she invited Marten--not Elliott--over to see the view with her, she wanted to dance with Marten, she immediately invited Marten on the hike in the first place...It just hasn't been overt because she doesn't know Marten as well or as long as the other characters, so it was more of a feeling-out process. She's always liked Marten as a new friend, and she probably didn't realize that Marten was interested until his reaction to her news that she was leaving (her facial expressions in those last two panels are obvious). This is the first time we've seen Padma since then, and its only natural that if they're both interested in each other, they do something about it now.

And if you were paying attention to body language, Jeph has been pairing Padma and Marten off with everybody else on the outside since the plane engine dance comic.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2011, 06:20
...Indian, not black. There is a difference.

Last time I checked, black was a colour, not a form of ethnicity.  :wink:

Uh... and last time I checked, black is the colour of Padma's hair, not her skin. If you're going to use that line of argument, it's more accurate to call Africans brown than Indians black...

That's not my point at all, and it wasn't my choice to use the word "black" in the first place, but my point still stands: You shouldn't use a colour to describe someone's ethinicity. It tends to be seen as offensive.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2011, 06:24
Secret Wine? What's THAT?

Mogen David.    - 0 (0%)
Manichevitz.    - 1 (1.6%)
Peach Wine. (She's from Georgia, of course.)    - 7 (11.3%)
A grape squeezed into a bottle of Bourbon.    - 13 (21%)
That bottle of Grape juice that's been sitting in the back of the fridge forever.    - 9 (14.5%)
Everclear with blue food coloring.    - 6 (9.7%)
A bottle of red, a bottle of white, whatever fuels your appetite.    - 4 (6.5%)
Something she bought from International Exports Ltd. In Milwaukee.    - 3 (4.8%) <-- Psst! "I'm looking for a Safe House!"
It's so secret even SHE doesn't know.    - 11 (17.7%)
Waffle Wine!    - 4 (6.5%)
MOAR BUTTSSSZZZ!    - 4 (6.5%)

Total Voters: 62
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Nov 2011, 06:38
And then Marten woke up.....
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Nov 2011, 06:47
it wasn't my choice to use the word "black" in the first place, but my point still stands: You shouldn't use a colour to describe someone's ethinicity. It tends to be seen as offensive.

Virtually any term for ethnicity has been or is found offensive in one place or another at some time or another; I have certainly been in situations where "black" was the preferred word for black Africans.  In any case, Padma is clearly Indian not African, and there is no useful discussion being had around it, so we can best avoid offence by simply letting it be.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: stoutfiles on 11 Nov 2011, 06:50
First, Yayy Marten! :-D

Second, someone stated how this Marten+Padma+Elliot dynamic is, I assume, no different than the Marten+Faye+Angus dynamic and I have to say I agree. If Padma doesn't see Elliot as anything other than a friend (Faye+Marten), then that's that. Marten+Padma not getting together won't change the Padma+Elliot dynamic.


It's not even close.  Had Marten consoled Angus on his feelings for Faye, got turned down, and then immediately after Angus made out with her, Marten would have the right to be angry about it.  

I also have a tough time fathoming why Padma likes Marten at all since she's shown no romantic interest in him until this point.  She's talked about herself only until this comic, and she's immediately bored by Marten's pipe dreams when she finally lets him speak.  If you're going to hook Marten up with someone, at least set it up to be believable!  I have to assume that Padma is very loose when drunk.

She isn't immediately bored. She's actually not bored at all. She initiates the conversation, asks him questions about it, and then clues Marten into the fact that, hey, I may want to kiss you. If you're bored with someone, you tolerate and either try to divert the conversation elsewhere or excuse yourself.

And yeah, Padma has shown interest in Marten before. On the hike, she invited Marten--not Elliott--over to see the view with her, she wanted to dance with Marten, she immediately invited Marten on the hike in the first place...It just hasn't been overt because she doesn't know Marten as well or as long as the other characters, so it was more of a feeling-out process. She's always liked Marten as a new friend, and she probably didn't realize that Marten was interested until his reaction to her news that she was leaving (her facial expressions in those last two panels are obvious). This is the first time we've seen Padma since then, and its only natural that if they're both interested in each other, they do something about it now.

And if you were paying attention to body language, Jeph has been pairing Padma and Marten off with everybody else on the outside since the plane engine dance comic.


She's bored at what he's talking about, yes.  She just wants to make out because she's drunk and he's looking kind of cute.  She may regret this action later.

The fact that she is just now finding out Martens only interest besides going to small businesses means she has never had a real conversation with him, on screen or off.  If she actually liked Marten, wouldn't she know something about him beforehand?

Marten is a nice guy, that she knows.  All he is to her is an awkward guy that lets her talk about herself and only adds in reassuring comments about everything she says/does.  That is what a nice guy goes.  Multiple times her personality has been a huge turn off to Marten but he ignores it because he has a high school mindset of "ooh, pretty girl, I'll do/say anything.  I'll do all the listening."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2011, 06:51
it wasn't my choice to use the word "black" in the first place, but my point still stands: You shouldn't use a colour to describe someone's ethinicity. It tends to be seen as offensive.

Virtually any term for ethnicity has been or is found offensive in one place or another at some time or another; I have certainly been in situations where "black" was the preferred word for black Africans.  In any case, Padma is clearly Indian not African, and there is no useful discussion being had around it, so we can best avoid offence by simply letting it be.

Fair enough. I did not mean to start a discussion about it. My apologies.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2011, 07:13
I should do a secondary poll: "How many pages will this thread be before Monday?" And, "Will it get locked?"

Let's review the tape, shall we?

185 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=185) - The "BAM!" and "PUKE" incident; nearest we got to a Marten/Faye Teh Kisses.
564 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=564) - Dora's famous "They don't have to be" comment up on the roof.
1079 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1079) - "I wish I could push my boundaries like that." (Faye Teh Kisses SVEN!)
1433 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1433) - Penelope and Wil making out right in the coffee shop!
1630 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1630) - Marigold kisses ANGUS!
1724 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1724) - Angus and  Faye: "He's got the tiger by the tail. If we separate them now, she might kill him."
1735 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1735) - "Africa." (TEH SMOOCHES!)*
2055 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2055) - "You're not boring me."

* - What's funny is, Jeph played this about halfway through the comic live draw feed on Ustream last night...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gangler on 11 Nov 2011, 07:27
Looks like Dolly "Parten" finally became a thing!

Get it? Padma + Marten = Parten, Dolly Parton, et al?

I'm damn good.
You are too clever by half.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Irenfrea on 11 Nov 2011, 07:28
Now is when Padma finds Pintsize's fleshlight and Dora's butt drawing under the couch's pillows.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 11 Nov 2011, 07:31
She's bored at what he's talking about, yes.  She just wants to make out because she's drunk and he's looking kind of cute.  She may regret this action later.

The fact that she is just now finding out Martens only interest besides going to small businesses means she has never had a real conversation with him, on screen or off.  If she actually liked Marten, wouldn't she know something about him beforehand?

Marten is a nice guy, that she knows.  All he is to her is an awkward guy that lets her talk about herself and only adds in reassuring comments about everything she says/does.  That is what a nice guy goes.  Multiple times her personality has been a huge turn off to Marten but he ignores it because he has a high school mindset of "ooh, pretty girl, I'll do/say anything.  I'll do all the listening."

I didn't notice Padma talking a lot, I just figured since she's a new character she needs more filling out than Marten.
But like, what's the biggie if they're both just kinda horny and acting on a superficial spark for fun? If anything, that's the best option.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: lepetitfromage on 11 Nov 2011, 07:32
this was by far one of my favorite comics in a while. Hanners "YELLING" was hilarious, i loved the way that Padma inched closer on the couch every panel and those bubbles! So freaking cute. Oh and- squeeeeeeeee  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Swedish Chef on 11 Nov 2011, 07:35

Faye : SECRET WINE TIME!
Tai : WOO!
Hannelore : YELLING!
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Pintsize : BUTTS!!!

If Pintsize doesn't wreck Marten's game, I'll be a very sad panda Chef.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 11 Nov 2011, 07:42
A drunken one night stand right before moving across the country.  Good idea!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 11 Nov 2011, 07:43
I L O V E Padma's red dress. Want!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Black Sword on 11 Nov 2011, 07:57
My reaction to today's strip:
(http://th05.deviantart.net/fs40/300W/f/2009/035/e/e/happy_dance_lovebot_by_jachwadi.jpg)

I'm so glad I predicted today's comic incorrectly. However, as good ol' Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5 once said... "No boom today. Boom tomorrow. Always a boom tomorrow."
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Nov 2011, 07:58
It's 11-11-11 (or, if you're across the pond, 11-11-11).  Anyone think it's funny that Marten got his wish today?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Torlek on 11 Nov 2011, 07:59
Yeah, Marten. GET SOME!

Our boy just needs to go in realizing that this may end up being no more than a pity fuck. I'll be in my bunk(er). This place is going to explode on Monday.

*Red text already. Hell of a way to start the weekend.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Nov 2011, 08:01
It's 11-11-11 (or, if you're across the pond, 11-11-11).  Anyone think it's funny that Marten got his wish today?

And the comic went up at only just after 11:11.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Black Sword on 11 Nov 2011, 08:04
It's 11-11-11 (or, if you're across the pond, 11-11-11).  Anyone think it's funny that Marten got his wish today?

And the comic went up at only just after 11:11.

So basically, it requires a cosmic alignment for something to go right for Marten?

*marks 12/12/12 on the calendar*
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gangler on 11 Nov 2011, 08:07
Cosmic alignment? Perhaps. I'm more inclined to believe he happened to buy a monkey's paw from a gypsy on the way home.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Nov 2011, 08:38
Yeah, Marten. GET SOME!

Our boy just needs to go in realizing that this may end up being no more than a pity fuck. I'll be in my bunk(er). This place is going to explode on Monday.

*Red text already. Hell of a way to start the weekend.

Pity fuck? Nah, Padma just wants to have a little sexy fun before going to live with her sick grandmother, which, I can tell you from experience isn't very conducive to one's sex life.

Also, forgive the meme-ness, but there's only one way to describe my reaction to teh kiss:

(http://i.imgur.com/OknVO.jpg) (http://imgur.com/OknVO)

aw yeah
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Deadlywonky on 11 Nov 2011, 08:39
ah so the balancing of Marten getting kisses is for him to catch rabies from the good luck charm then?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mustakyy on 11 Nov 2011, 09:15
 :-o :-o :-o  :-o Oh my!  :-o :-o :-o :-o

Could it be that Lady Luck's human target is finally getting a break from bad luck? Well I'll be damned.


Sure, there might (and most surely WILL) be some consequences, probably some bad ones, but still, I gotta say.. Hell Yeah, Marten!
But then again, playing safe and hasn't worked that well either for Marty. Atleast this way, there's some light in between teh drama and teh usual superbad luck.  :roll:


I'm so glad I predicted today's comic incorrectly. However, as good ol' Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5 once said... "No boom today. Boom tomorrow. Always a boom tomorrow."

What a delightfully great quote. You win the internets for that.  *tips tophat, bows deeply and grins *


Let's hope that Lady Luck will continue smiling on our (usually very unlucky) protagonist. (I know I am, atleast...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2011, 09:26
Luck ain't a lady in QC. It's a man with a pipe and an attitude.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: stoutfiles on 11 Nov 2011, 09:27
She's bored at what he's talking about, yes.  She just wants to make out because she's drunk and he's looking kind of cute.  She may regret this action later.

The fact that she is just now finding out Martens only interest besides going to small businesses means she has never had a real conversation with him, on screen or off.  If she actually liked Marten, wouldn't she know something about him beforehand?

Marten is a nice guy, that she knows.  All he is to her is an awkward guy that lets her talk about herself and only adds in reassuring comments about everything she says/does.  That is what a nice guy goes.  Multiple times her personality has been a huge turn off to Marten but he ignores it because he has a high school mindset of "ooh, pretty girl, I'll do/say anything.  I'll do all the listening."

I didn't notice Padma talking a lot, I just figured since she's a new character she needs more filling out than Marten.
But like, what's the biggie if they're both just kinda horny and acting on a superficial spark for fun? If anything, that's the best option.

Because Marten will be mopey and depressed when she leaves.  If he was like Steve/old Sven and could jump to a new girl without being sad, then sure.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Nov 2011, 09:47
I think it's fair to assume that Marten will be mopey and depressed after Padma leaves no matter what happens; that's kinda how he is. But right now, he's lonely, she's showing interest, they're not that drunk (they're not acting like they're impaired and their drunk bubbles are small) and there's nobody in the way (sorry, but Elliot had plenty of chances and blew it; for all practical purposes, he's out of the picture), so why shouldn't they have a little fun?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Nov 2011, 10:09
Just a remionder; 

Sloppy makeouts =/= relationship

Sloppy makeouts =/= pity fuck

Hell, Sloppy makeouts =/= sexy times, even! 

So far, it is what it is; two peeples having some goods time togethers.  I know there's fun in prognosticating, but remember; where it goes from here is up to Jeph! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: billydaking on 11 Nov 2011, 10:14
First, Yayy Marten! :-D

Second, someone stated how this Marten+Padma+Elliot dynamic is, I assume, no different than the Marten+Faye+Angus dynamic and I have to say I agree. If Padma doesn't see Elliot as anything other than a friend (Faye+Marten), then that's that. Marten+Padma not getting together won't change the Padma+Elliot dynamic.


It's not even close.  Had Marten consoled Angus on his feelings for Faye, got turned down, and then immediately after Angus made out with her, Marten would have the right to be angry about it.  

While the situations were different, the similarities are important because emotions don’t see the details. Which is why Marten was upset when Faye told him she didn’t want to string Angus along, which is exactly what she did to Marten. Everything goes back to, “why did you treat me different.”
 
Also, when Faye rejected Marten, Dora stepped right in. The only difference there is that Dora didn't mention anything to Faye--her friend--at all beforehand, and that personal guilt wound up hurting their relationship, despite everybody else being okay with it. Marten, unintentionally, cleared the way for himself by telling Elliot he should tell Padma his feelings. Padma rejected him (and that wasn’t preordained), and while Padma and Marten starting something will make it awkward, Elliot has no right to be angry. He doesn’t own Padma, and Padma was honest with him. Marten didn’t do anything before Padma rejected Elliot, and unless you’re saying it’s better for Elliot to still have his unrequited crush on Padma with her with Marten (which would need an explanation), I don’t see where Marten did anything wrong.

The start of any new relationship causes collateral damage. You just have to hope that people are adult enough to deal with it.

I also have a tough time fathoming why Padma likes Marten at all since she's shown no romantic interest in him until this point.  She's talked about herself only until this comic, and she's immediately bored by Marten's pipe dreams when she finally lets him speak.  If you're going to hook Marten up with someone, at least set it up to be believable!  I have to assume that Padma is very loose when drunk.

She isn't immediately bored. She's actually not bored at all. She initiates the conversation, asks him questions about it, and then clues Marten into the fact that, hey, I may want to kiss you. If you're bored with someone, you tolerate and either try to divert the conversation elsewhere or excuse yourself.

And yeah, Padma has shown interest in Marten before. On the hike, she invited Marten--not Elliott--over to see the view with her, she wanted to dance with Marten, she immediately invited Marten on the hike in the first place...It just hasn't been overt because she doesn't know Marten as well or as long as the other characters, so it was more of a feeling-out process. She's always liked Marten as a new friend, and she probably didn't realize that Marten was interested until his reaction to her news that she was leaving (her facial expressions in those last two panels are obvious). This is the first time we've seen Padma since then, and its only natural that if they're both interested in each other, they do something about it now.

And if you were paying attention to body language, Jeph has been pairing Padma and Marten off with everybody else on the outside since the plane engine dance comic.


She's bored at what he's talking about, yes.  She just wants to make out because she's drunk and he's looking kind of cute.  She may regret this action later.

The fact that she is just now finding out Martens only interest besides going to small businesses means she has never had a real conversation with him, on screen or off.  If she actually liked Marten, wouldn't she know something about him beforehand?

Marten is a nice guy, that she knows.  All he is to her is an awkward guy that lets her talk about herself and only adds in reassuring comments about everything she says/does.  That is what a nice guy goes.  Multiple times her personality has been a huge turn off to Marten but he ignores it because he has a high school mindset of "ooh, pretty girl, I'll do/say anything.  I'll do all the listening."

No, she's not bored. As I already pointed out, she's actively engaged in the conversation and she shows no sign of not being interested, vocal or in body language. The only panel that can be even remotely interpreted as Padma being bored is the second to last one, and if your interpretation of that panel is "boredom," then you gotta be dead.

Also, Marten wasn't "telling her his hopes and dreams"; he was making small talk about his band, the one that Padma just asked about. In fact, this is how most of their interactions have been to this point--mostly joking, talking a bit, Padma apologizing for whatever unintentional damage she just caused, getting to know each other's personalities a bit more. There has been very little to zero indepth personal discussion between the two, outside of the reasons why Padma is moving back home, which just occurred back the last time they saw each other, which also was the first time Padma probably even knew Marten was interested. The idea that Padma's done nothing but talk about herself doesn't hold water with me at all, so the whole "nice guy" thing is something I simply don't agree with at the least. Especially since Marten's been interested in Padma for a while now.

This is how many people start relationships with new people...they meet, become friendly with one another, hit it off, and if they get a little drunk, there's liplock. A bridge has been crossed, the mutual attraction has been acknowledged, and then a dating relationship follows. Most people I know don't stalk or do a complete background check on somebody they're interested in.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Blackie62 on 11 Nov 2011, 10:29
All I can say is: took. Long. Enough.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: The Duke on 11 Nov 2011, 10:38
WOOOOOOOOOOO GO MARTEEEENNNNNNNNN YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

...ahem. 

Today's comic made me smile.  I can only hope that there won't be too terrible of an awful-realization hangover aftermath/beatdown from Elliott.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: raoullefere on 11 Nov 2011, 11:01
As Dora said (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=564): "[relationships] don't have to be [complicated]".
Ahah. Ahahahahahaha. Oh, man…

Looking at both what followed that statement and all the 'fat' posters in this thread… Oh, god, you're killing me!

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: haikupoet on 11 Nov 2011, 11:12
Doomed love...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 11 Nov 2011, 11:23
First, Yayy Marten! :-D

Second, someone stated how this Marten+Padma+Elliot dynamic is, I assume, no different than the Marten+Faye+Angus dynamic and I have to say I agree. If Padma doesn't see Elliot as anything other than a friend (Faye+Marten), then that's that. Marten+Padma not getting together won't change the Padma+Elliot dynamic.
It's not even close.  Had Marten consoled Angus on his feelings for Faye, got turned down, and then immediately after Angus made out with her, Marten would have the right to be angry about it.
I would not go that far.  That's dangerously close to saying Faye was obligated to give Marten a chance, and I remember a certain someone that held a similar position about Angus with Marigold while I still just lurking here.  I'm sure I can't be the only person who remembers the fallout from that.  Regardless, as a rule what two consenting adults do together is their own business and nobody elses.  However, as a rule other adults around them do not have an obligation be happy about it either, and because Marten and Padma's relationship is pretty much doomed from the start there's no reason to complicate a nice guy's mental state over it.

Somehow, I think Marten's character would be sad to see Padma go, but mature enough to understand a last-night-in-town, no-strings-attached mentality (if that is what Padma's up to). And Marten seems centered enough not to follow her all the way out to the west coast; that was barely-out-of-college-kid behavior.  
I have to disagree.  This is Marten we're talking about, not Steve or (pre-reformed*) Sven.  I just can't see Marten doing a one-night stand, at least not without agonizing over it afterwards.

Marten's setting himself up for a huge fall IMHO, [...]
Possible, but not automatically so. Padma could decide she wants to stay now. Or grandma could die before Padma actually moves. Etc.
Yes, Padma could change her mind, but honestly should she?  Obviously, Padma's ties with her grandmother are very strong.  Changing major plans in order to pursue a relationship with a guy she barely knows is hardly the wisest course of action.  And right now, her grandmother is still alive (at least to Padma's knowledge, or so I would hope).  Making a move on a girl in the hopes that her grandmother will croak in the next couple of days sounds too much like betting on disaster for my tastes.  It's one thing if Marten kept things open in case Padma's grandmother did pass away or if Padma changed her mind for other reasons, but right now he's digging himself a hole that he won't be able to get out of on his own without a dose of good (or maybe bad) luck on his side.

Actually, I should probably say that Marten and Padma are digging themselves a hole, as it seems to be a mutual thing there.  However, the gods weren't as kind to Padma as they were to Hannelore when it came to giving people the gift of foresight, so I'm hardly surprised that she hasn't thought this through.

*Okay, so maybe Sven is only mostly reformed (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1745). :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Nov 2011, 11:28
These characters are fictional! Not even ink on a page (unless you ordered one of the volumes) -- they're pixels on the Internet! Not! Real!
And yet, I was still thinking "Go Marty!"   :lol:  :-D   :laugh:
That's your part of the artist/audience dance. Works of art are supposed to engage your emotions.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 11 Nov 2011, 11:47
YAAY! A Fling! Flings are fun. Enjoy yourselves and be safe, kids.

Personally I've figured Padma had a thing for Marten for a while, based on how she came to him for comfort/reassurance after she nearly got blown off the cliff. An instinctive move like that is very telling.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 11 Nov 2011, 11:48
Now all we have to do is to wait for the other shoe to drop.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 11 Nov 2011, 12:13
As I was scrolling slowly as I read, I thought the last few panels would play out differently

Marten : mentions Amir
Padma dramatically changes attitude and says "not my douchenozzle brother (or cousin or whatever) Amir?!"
Marten: Buh, wha...


I'm genuinely surprised and pleased that Marten actually caught a break.

Well played, Jeph
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: GeoCorn on 11 Nov 2011, 12:29
Just a remionder; 

Sloppy makeouts =/= relationship

Sloppy makeouts =/= pity fuck

Hell, Sloppy makeouts =/= sexy times, even! 

So far, it is what it is; two peeples having some goods time togethers.  I know there's fun in prognosticating, but remember; where it goes from here is up to Jeph! 

and not only are they sloppy makeouts, but drunken makeouts. Still, hopefully it's at least a sign that Marten is over Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Loki on 11 Nov 2011, 12:36
Uhm... I don't know whether someone already asked this, but I cannot quite make out* who started the kiss. Any clues on that?


*pun not intended
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Nov 2011, 12:38
Is it even ethnically possible for Amir to be related to Padma? I dimly remember some information going by about Amir's heritage, but it never made it into the wiki.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 11 Nov 2011, 12:39
Occurs to me, What's Padma's social life usually like, when her first concern is that someone might draw genitalia on her face while she's asleep?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: peterh on 11 Nov 2011, 12:54
Today's installment made me come back over here after a lomg timeout, just to see what mushroom cloud would result out of today's installment.

The result is not disappointing.

I cannot quite make out* who started the kiss. Any clues on that?
Take a look at how Padma inches closer to Marten in each panel.
She's probably picked up his previous signals, and is now (with the help of a bit of intoxication) ready to act on them... but it was already evident that she genuinely liked him being around. She just has some handicap when it comes to conveying her emotions (as in, she's great at giving off mixed signals because her mouth is usually ahead of her brain).

It'll be *very* interesting to see how Jeph will develop this.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Nov 2011, 13:00
Occurs to me, What's Padma's social life usually like, when her first concern is that someone might draw genitalia on her face while she's asleep?

I had the same thought.  Apparantly, it must be something like Jeph's - I seem to remember some such occurance being reported from a con...

But yeah, probably the last  thing I'd think of doing to a pretty woman. 




Unless she were my sister, or something...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: peterh on 11 Nov 2011, 13:13
Occurs to me, What's Padma's social life usually like, when her first concern is that someone might draw genitalia on her face while she's asleep?

I had the same thought. 

I read it as a joke, with an underlying hint... as in "just as long as you don't do *that* to me, I'm ok with what you *will* do".

Does that make sense?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Black Sword on 11 Nov 2011, 13:20

I'm so glad I predicted today's comic incorrectly. However, as good ol' Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5 once said... "No boom today. Boom tomorrow. Always a boom tomorrow."

What a delightfully great quote. You win the internets for that.  *tips tophat, bows deeply and grins *


Let's hope that Lady Luck will continue smiling on our (usually very unlucky) protagonist. (I know I am, atleast...)

Why, thank you. I can only take credit for remembering such delightfully dour Russian quote.

And remember, it's not cynical, it's realistic!

/2nd Babylond 5 reference on QC in a day

Is it even ethnically possible for Amir to be related to Padma? I dimly remember some information going by about Amir's heritage, but it never made it into the wiki.

Ethnically impossible. Amir is an Arabic/Hebraic name, Padma is distinctly Sanskrit, related to the lotus flower and an aspect of the Hindu Great Goddess
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Mr_Rose on 11 Nov 2011, 13:24
Monday's comic opens with Faye, Hanners and Tai peeking around the door of whatever room they entered Scooby-style (with Tai, inexplicably, on top), passing sarcastic comments about either technique, or how they're never going to get back to the drinking with that going on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Somebody on 11 Nov 2011, 13:40
It's 11-11-11 (or, if you're across the pond, 11-11-11).  Anyone think it's funny that Marten got his wish today?

And the comic went up at only just after 11:11.

So basically, it requires a cosmic alignment for something to go right for Marten?

*marks 12/12/12 on the calendar*
20/11/2011 comes first ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: raoullefere on 11 Nov 2011, 13:40
Occurs to me, What's Padma's social life usually like, when her first concern is that someone might draw genitalia on her face while she's asleep?

I had the same thought.  Apparantly, it must be something like Jeph's - I seem to remember some such occurance being reported from a con...

But yeah, probably the last  thing I'd think of doing to a pretty woman. 




Unless she were my sister, or something...
Yeah, but you don't go to parties with Faye. Or Tai, but Pads doesn't know that… yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 11 Nov 2011, 14:30
Are they even kissing yet? It looks a bit like they are only VERY close in the last panel... depending on what happens on monday, they might still be interrupted before any kissing (in whatever fashion) takes place. oO

you beat me

There's definitely an *intent* to kiss there... which is certainly enough for purposes of the fun going on in this thread, but I see Marten's closed mouth through Padma's lips there as if she's *about to* turn her head into a kiss with him...

Gotta go with *NOT QUITE* a full-on liplock, but he might be getting in a pre-smooch on the corner of her mouth, so that probably technically counts.

OK FINE IT'S A KISS. I think.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: treyhawk on 11 Nov 2011, 14:35
And then Marten woke up.....

That was my first thought as well.  He is still at the bar, right next to the other inebriated guy, passed out ....
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gangler on 11 Nov 2011, 14:40
Naw man. Jeph's gonna go full-blown Dallas on us. Marten fainted after Faye told him about her father.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: raoullefere on 11 Nov 2011, 14:51
And then Marten woke up.....

That was my first thought as well.  He is still at the bar, right next to the other inebriated guy, passed out ....

Only problem with that is the inept dancing. Then again, this is Marten; he'd probably dream himself as a crappy dancer.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Arancaytar on 11 Nov 2011, 15:28
Drunken makeouts. This can only end well...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 11 Nov 2011, 15:35
If this was a typical sitcom next strip would have Dora come running in, shouting about how she juist realised she still loves Marten and wants to get back together, trailing off as she spots Marten and Padma kissing. The final panel would have her standing there with her mouth open in shock, Tai et al standing there looking embarrassed, and Marten and Padma not noticng her at all.

Please don't this, Mr. Jacques.  (Yeah, like he would.  Or listen to me if he does read this and wants to go in that cliiche direction.)

Amir could have an Indian or Pakistani Muslim background.  Given Padma being from an Hindu background the two being related would be a rather interesting story involving a cross religion marriage.  But there wouldn't be much point in it from the perspective of Padma and Marten's plotline.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Ethereal on 11 Nov 2011, 15:47
Or their hypothetical parents could have named them whatever they wanted.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DSL on 11 Nov 2011, 16:27
Naw man. Jeph's gonna go full-blown Dallas on us. Marten fainted after Faye told him about her father.

I would have said the taser (Hannelore's really from Amherst, her dad's a plumber and her mom is a church secretary) but, yeah, I'm with you in concept. Meanwhile,Marten has to get ready for band practice with Amir and Nat, and Dora's on her way over for TV night with Faye ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Nov 2011, 16:46
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=577

I'd check the newspost on that comic, before considering "just a dream" plotlines - it seems to be in a serious tone. (Unlike the "Marten's happiness" being written out of QC - that may be a joke.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: DonInKansas on 11 Nov 2011, 17:41
Luck ain't a lady in QC. It's a man with a pipe and an attitude.

Curse you!  Now that song is stuck in my head.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2011, 17:50
Now all we have to do is to wait for the other shoe to drop.
And it will drop. Oh yes, it will.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Nov 2011, 18:19
Drunken makeouts. This can only end well...


Oooooh yeah... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7FFjUpVLg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2011, 18:47
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=577

I'd check the newspost on that comic, before considering "just a dream" plotlines - it seems to be in a serious tone. (Unlike the "Marten's happiness" being written out of QC - that may be a joke.)

For those of us too lazy:
Quote from: 'Jeph Jacques'
Probably the most common strip suggestion I recieve is "Marten is making out/having sex with Faye/Dora/Raven/Whoever, but then in panel four he wakes up and OMG IT WAS ALL A DREAM!" I will never do this, I promise.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Nov 2011, 20:52
Occurs to me, What's Padma's social life usually like, when her first concern is that someone might draw genitalia on her face while she's asleep?

Honestly? Sounds a lot like something my friends would have done, even until last year. Drawing on the faces of people who were asleep is pretty much nothing compared to stealing their clothes and dumping them outside in their underwear.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: gangler on 11 Nov 2011, 21:00
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=577

I'd check the newspost on that comic, before considering "just a dream" plotlines - it seems to be in a serious tone. (Unlike the "Marten's happiness" being written out of QC - that may be a joke.)
So you're thinking time travel antics then, or will Hannelore's psychic abilities develop to the point that she can bend reality?
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Nov 2011, 22:15
Amir's of Pakistani ancestry, according to an old post in the Ask Jeph thread.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Scientivore on 11 Nov 2011, 22:16
Been awhile, but this one just begged for it. And I actually have the right font now! Enjoy. =)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s298/Scientivore/Comics/QC/QC2055SecretFugitive600x356.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Nov 2011, 00:19
Quote from: 'Jeph Jacques'
Probably the most common strip suggestion I recieve is "Marten is making out/having sex with Faye/Dora/Raven/Whoever, but then in panel four he wakes up and OMG IT WAS ALL A DREAM!" I will never do this, I promise.

Though he hasn't totally avoided Marten having fun in a dream (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1170); not his  dream, though (but wearing almost the same teeshirt).
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: HiFranc on 12 Nov 2011, 03:27
[...]

I also have a tough time fathoming why Padma likes Marten at all since she's shown no romantic interest in him until this point.  She's talked about herself only until this comic, and she's immediately bored by Marten's pipe dreams when she finally lets him speak.  If you're going to hook Marten up with someone, at least set it up to be believable!  I have to assume that Padma is very loose when drunk.

I don't know -- considering he's nothing more than a new regular there was no reason to invite him to go walking with them, to go dancing with them, etc (and she did hold on to Marten after she almost got blown off the cliff).  The clues have been there.  She doesn't seem that self aware so may not even realise she wanted him that way.

However, I don't think that it's going to last.  My assessment of Padma is that she's on the rebound from the (imminent) ending of her relationship with that city (sorry I can't remember the name).  Marten just happened to be likeable and arrived around the time that she had to face moving out.  I suspect also, subconsciously, she likes Marten's story becuase, like her, their current home is their adopted home.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Nov 2011, 03:41
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=577

I'd check the newspost on that comic, before considering "just a dream" plotlines - it seems to be in a serious tone. (Unlike the "Marten's happiness" being written out of QC - that may be a joke.)

For those of us too lazy:
Quote from: 'Jeph Jacques'
Probably the most common strip suggestion I recieve is "Marten is making out/having sex with Faye/Dora/Raven/Whoever, but then in panel four he wakes up and OMG IT WAS ALL A DREAM!" I will never do this, I promise.

So I can propose that Pintsize is running a simulation of this event? Hey, if a world can have sentient robots......why not advanced CGI/Virtual reality? 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 12 Nov 2011, 04:55
Ethnically impossible. Amir is an Arabic/Hebraic name, Padma is distinctly Sanskrit, related to the lotus flower and an aspect of the Hindu Great Goddess
Not that I see this happening, but ...

Ethnicity is not quite as static as that.

I've known a Tamil who took an Arabic name upon converting.  He gave me the impression it was not all that uncommon.

I could easily see two branches of the same family ending up with different ethnicities – particularly a family from the Indian subcontinent.  Plenty of ethnicities to choose from.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 12 Nov 2011, 10:47
Ethnically impossible. Amir is an Arabic/Hebraic name, Padma is distinctly Sanskrit, related to the lotus flower and an aspect of the Hindu Great Goddess
Not that I see this happening, but ...
Ethnicity is not quite as static as that.

I guess I don't put as much importance on "this ethnicity would never be nice to that ethnicity" as some people.
*shrug*

It would be a total comedic cliché if they were cousins or something, but Jeph's sense of comedy is clearly different than mine.
And funnier too.

</can-of-worms>
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: EcoReck on 12 Nov 2011, 11:25
Just a remionder; 

Sloppy makeouts =/= relationship

Sloppy makeouts =/= pity fuck

Hell, Sloppy makeouts =/= sexy times, even! 

So far, it is what it is; two peeples having some goods time togethers.  I know there's fun in prognosticating, but remember; where it goes from here is up to Jeph! 

From what I've seen, it was never about Marten wanting Dora. It was just Marten wanting to be in a relationship badly.
and not only are they sloppy makeouts, but drunken makeouts. Still, hopefully it's at least a sign that Marten is over Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 12 Nov 2011, 13:11
Been awhile, but this one just begged for it. And I actually have the right font now! Enjoy. =)

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s298/Scientivore/Comics/QC/QC2055SecretFugitive600x356.png)

hehe well done!   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 12 Nov 2011, 13:24
Seconded

Although I maight have hinted about that spree in California....
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Akima on 12 Nov 2011, 14:19
I've known a Tamil who took an Arabic name upon converting.  He gave me the impression it was not all that uncommon.
On the contrary, it is fairly normal, but are ethnicity and religion the same thing? Did Muhammad Ali change his ethnicity on converting to Islam? Would I do so if I converted to Christianity? Regardless of my religion, I'm sure that some dubious people would continue to call me "ethnic Chinese".  :-(
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Nov 2011, 14:27
'sOK.  I've been called "culturally Jewish".    :psyduck:

Of course, that's considered both an ethnicity and  a religion! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 12 Nov 2011, 15:17
I've known a Tamil who took an Arabic name upon converting.  He gave me the impression it was not all that uncommon.
On the contrary, it is fairly normal, but are ethnicity and religion the same thing? Did Muhammad Ali change his ethnicity on converting to Islam? Would I do so if I converted to Christianity? Regardless of my religion, I'm sure that some dubious people would continue to call me "ethnic Chinese".  :-(
The only "safe" and somewhat workable definition of ethnicity I know, is to observe to what group people are assigned by themselves and their neighbors.  But religion is a fairly useful indicator.  (Language and "racial" characteristics may be more certain indicators, but even they are not safe ...)

And sure, the Tamil I knew was still a Tamil.  But also a Moslem.  With an Arabic name.  My impression was that he had embraced a new ethnicity, and was welcomed in it.  As for Muhammed Ali, I have no idea.

For this discussion though, it was not my idea to read ethnicity from an Arabic name.  Perhaps the example of Muhammed Ali could be sufficient to show that such readings are not reliable?

... or perhaps the very melting pot of the USA could be sufficient thereto?  From my outsider's perspective, India and USA are alike in that: Most people have a number of options, ethnicity-wise.  In Norway, the only ones with an option to switch, seem to be the (relatively few) Sami, Finns, Jews, and Travelers – and their only option seems to be embracing the Norse ethnicity. :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: raoullefere on 12 Nov 2011, 19:02
'sOK.  I've been called "culturally Jewish".    :psyduck:

Of course, that's considered both an ethnicity and  a religion!  
Alas, being culturally bankrupt, I'm but an Oyster.

More seriously, though, with a few exceptions, ethnicity and religion only go hand in hand, so far as I know, on the very small scale (The Sioux, to give an example. Even Judaism, the largest scale example of this I know of, only accounts for single percentages of populations, down to 1 or less, in most countries). For others, one is born in an ethnicity, but one (or one's parents, up to a certain point in one's life, at least) chooses one's religion these days. That being said, one can, as Cassius Clay (Muhammad Ali, for those not in the know) did, alienate others of one's ethnicity by converting to certain religions*. That may be how Sidhekin's Tamil friend felt.

*Some may argue that Ali joined a new ethnicity (specifically Nation of Islam, or, more broadly, Black Muslims) by converting, but I'm not sure you can call it that. Something for cultural anthropologists and/or sociologists to quibble about, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Nov 2011, 19:05
Anyway, we can't reliably infer Amir's heritage from his name.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: raoullefere on 12 Nov 2011, 19:17
True. For all we know, he chose it from a cereal boxtop.

No, I don't know what cereal might have 'Amir' on its packaging. I'm the ideas guy; research is your job.



Edit: choose/chose aurrggghhh!
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Nov 2011, 19:50
[frantically searches through the cupboards]

Amir loops?  Sugar frosted amirs?  Amir bran?  Cap'n Amir?  Hey, when did the quaker oats guy turn so dark? 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: RefD on 12 Nov 2011, 21:21
*wonders if there will be a Jess Fink homage in the near future*
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sorflakne on 13 Nov 2011, 00:50
Hoo boy, I can see Monday now:

On returning with Secret Wine, the girls do the following:

Faye: Freaks out, begs Marten to not return to California (possibly punches Padma)
Hanners: Demands to know if Marten and Padma practice good oral hygiene so that they don't get sick from sharing saliva and tongue
Tai: Gets bummed out that another potential one got away and drinks herself silly (and wakes up with her pants duct-taped to the ceiling and Pintsize in the dishwasher)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 13 Nov 2011, 03:48
Pintsize is already in the freezer as a preventative measure.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 13 Nov 2011, 03:49

... or perhaps the very melting pot of the USA could be sufficient thereto?  From my outsider's perspective, India and USA are alike in that: Most people have a number of options, ethnicity-wise.  In Norway, the only ones with an option to switch, seem to be the (relatively few) Sami, Finns, Jews, and Travelers – and their only option seems to be embracing the Norse ethnicity. :-P

Well, my grandfather's mother was from a norwegian family of ship owners but they weren't originally from Norway, having fled from Austria in the 17th century due to being protestants. Now my grandmother was also born in Austria but her ancestor were probably Tyrolea but she lived in eastern Prussia with my Grandad among whose relatives were also Poles. What´s that make me ethnically? Austrionorwegianpolishitalian O.o... I´ve lived in the Rhineland for all my life and I stopped considering myself anything much else.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 13 Nov 2011, 07:18
Pintsize is already in the freezer as a preventative measure.

IS he? We didn't see them do that, I can see Monday's comic being Pintsize jumping out and going "YEAH GET SOME OF THAT BOI!!!!!" and totally ruining Marten's groove.

Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sorflakne on 13 Nov 2011, 08:24
Pintsize is already in the freezer as a preventative measure.
You you remember everything that happens when you're drunk, especially after drinking something with a name like 'Secret Wine'? :P 
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 13 Nov 2011, 08:36

... or perhaps the very melting pot of the USA could be sufficient thereto?  From my outsider's perspective, India and USA are alike in that: Most people have a number of options, ethnicity-wise.  In Norway, the only ones with an option to switch, seem to be the (relatively few) Sami, Finns, Jews, and Travelers – and their only option seems to be embracing the Norse ethnicity. :-P

Well, my grandfather's mother was from a norwegian family of ship owners but they weren't originally from Norway, having fled from Austria in the 17th century due to being protestants. Now my grandmother was also born in Austria but her ancestor were probably Tyrolea but she lived in eastern Prussia with my Grandad among whose relatives were also Poles. What´s that make me ethnically? Austrionorwegianpolishitalian O.o... I´ve lived in the Rhineland for all my life and I stopped considering myself anything much else.  :-)
Austrionorwegianpolishitalian is just your ancestry.  Your ethnicity seems to be "Rhinelander", if I read you right.

Oh, I have something of a mixed ancestry myself.  Norse (obviously), Gaelic (as hinted by my username), Sami, Italian, and probably more than my share of Neanderthal.  But ethnicity is more about group identity, as percieved by the group members and their neighbors.  No way anyone would consider me anything but Norse.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 13 Nov 2011, 12:24
Holy gelflings, Jeph's drawing tonight's comic already!  I'm not sure when Jeph plans on putting it up, but we may need a new WCDT thread soon if he decided to put it up right away. :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Nov 2011, 12:41
Consider it done!  It's been a while since I made one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Nov 2011, 15:30
I think Jeph doesn't generally put the comic up until midnight (his time) even if he's drawn it appreciably earlier, though he has done when there's been some reason he couldn't to do it then.
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Nov 2011, 17:39
So - what was the Moment of the Week?

MARTY. DANCEY. NOW.    - 1 (0.9%)
I'll have one of whatever he was...    - 0 (0%)
SAVE YOURSELF!    - 0 (0%)
Make it two.    - 2 (1.8%)
That's it, lil' bird. Spread your wings and fly!    - 2 (1.8%)
...Straight into a jet engine.    - 2 (1.8%)
Dual Conversations!    - 1 (0.9%)
Magnets or double-sided tape?    - 3 (2.7%)
"I always just REACT to things, you know?"    - 1 (0.9%)
The "does this dress make me look fat" thing    - 2 (1.8%)
DJ Tai Fighter does good!    - 0 (0%)
Secret Wine!    - 1 (0.9%)
Keep you up all night with his mischief.    - 2 (1.8%)
Hanners Muzzles Faye!    - 10 (9%)
YELLING!    - 13 (11.7%)
Band Talk.    - 0 (0%)
Oh, who are we kidding? TEH KISSES!!!!!!!!!11!!!    - 71 (64%)

Total Voters: 111
Title: Re: WCDT 2051-2055; Nov. 7-11, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Nov 2011, 18:25
Jeph's Twitter feed says the comic is done but he's not putting it up yet.