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Title: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Nov 2011, 10:44
How was everyone's Thanksgiving (or, if you're not from the States, everyone's Thursday)?  I know it's a little early, but because of the long weekend, it feels like at least Sunday, so I figured we'd get a head start on the SPECULATION :psyduck:

Blast, accidentally deleted the semi-colon.  I never can seem to get the thread titles right.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 26 Nov 2011, 12:58
There will be a comic on Monday. We f**kers will have no idea. That said, I predict both women will take a swing, into the middle of which will walk a newly returned Angus. Hanners willl handle the first aid and ground Marigold for a week.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Vista on 26 Nov 2011, 13:00
Guessin' Hanners tries to tell Marigold off, and succeeds (but probably shouldn't, since making fun of someone's glasses is hardly mean at that age).

Dora will hear about Padma probably?  Which may result in crisis, despite her current chill.  Poor Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: celticgeek on 26 Nov 2011, 13:02
Personally, I await the return of the accidentally deleted semi-colon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Nov 2011, 13:27
It has returned.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 26 Nov 2011, 14:43
Elliots a bouncer? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1883)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Nov 2011, 14:50
So it would seem - but I don't think we've had any corroboration that this is the same Elliot(t).
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 26 Nov 2011, 16:15
Elliots a bouncer? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1883)

Depends what he lands on when he falls.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DrPhibes on 26 Nov 2011, 16:44
not too many poll choices there :P

Anyway... I think jeph will slide the remark amde by marigold and return to his story-line arc.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 26 Nov 2011, 17:01
Next week

Michael Buffer.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 26 Nov 2011, 17:13
I think given Elliot's comments about being able to put Faye in a sleeper hold (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2042) has lead most of us to accept that he is indeed a bouncer.  It's not 100% irrevocable proof, but combined with the One Steve Limit (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSteveLimit)* rule it looks to be a fairly safe bet.

*Disclaimer: you know where this link leads.  Enter at your own risk. :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Nov 2011, 17:17
I deliberately did not link that rule. 

A recent case where it was (presumably deliberately) broken was in Scott Pilgrim, where there is a second (minor) character called Scott - referred to by Scott as "other Scott".
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: CrowFairy on 26 Nov 2011, 17:53
I would really like to see for sure if Elliot is the same bouncer or not. Perhaps he could hear of what happened between Marten and Padma and then kind of take it out on the unruly patrons? Whether we see it or not is unimportant--him talking about it would be plenty for me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 26 Nov 2011, 18:08
So it would seem - but I don't think we've had any corroboration that this is the same Elliot(t).

I was being random. Like.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: celticgeek on 26 Nov 2011, 19:50
I think given Elliot's comments about being able to put Faye in a sleeper hold (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2042) has lead most of us to accept that he is indeed a bouncer.  It's not 100% irrevocable proof, but combined with the One Steve Limit (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OneSteveLimit)* rule it looks to be a fairly safe bet.

*Disclaimer: you know where this link leads.  Enter at your own risk. :evil:

"This is my brother Darryl and this is my other brother Darryl."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ZBixby on 26 Nov 2011, 21:31
Since when is Elliot a bouncer!?! Bakery's do not need bouncers!!! Unless its a "special" bakery...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 26 Nov 2011, 23:02
Good thing we haven't implemented that poll idea from last week, I guess...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 26 Nov 2011, 23:18
Jeez. Elliot is Elliot. There aren't two different people.

I think.

Playing that kind of situation for drama or laughs just doesn't seem like Jeph's style.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 26 Nov 2011, 23:22
Since when is Elliot a bouncer!?! Bakery's do not need bouncers!!! Unless its a "special" bakery...

That would explain the need for secrecy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DrPhibes on 27 Nov 2011, 03:24
Two persons with the same name irritate me even in real life. I'm called Robert irl. there was another robert in a group i was in. He was in that group the week i missed the meeting and went out the group the following meeting.  :psyduck: who is he?

Anyway,... I do think they are the same. why else use the name twice?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 27 Nov 2011, 12:21
Since when is Elliot a bouncer!?! Bakery's do not need bouncers!!! Unless its a "special" bakery...

Or he could have two jobs. Many of us do in this day and age.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: vettechinohio on 27 Nov 2011, 12:42
Too true. I used to have four jobs, one full time and three part time, and many days I did all four in the same day.

My Thanksgiving was spent watching my mom and her sister get into a loud argument and my mom almost walked out. And there was undercooked turkey. Yum.

I predict more Marten this week, but always look forward to Faye/Angus interactions.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 27 Nov 2011, 12:50
Angus should be getting back this week.  Just on the Faye front, I wanna see how he handles the glasses and hair. 

But there will probably be more Marten/Padma drama, too. 

It's all  good! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 27 Nov 2011, 13:12
Angus will be back

In the Monday 12th December Comic
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 27 Nov 2011, 13:27
Angus should be getting back this week.  Just on the Faye front, I wanna see how he handles the glasses and hair. 

"Then one day it happened. She cut her hair and I stopped loving her." - Billy Bragg, Walk Away Renee
I'm not seriously suggesting this, but that line just wandered through my mind.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 27 Nov 2011, 13:48
Renee, huh?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 27 Nov 2011, 16:47
Well, that explains her  short hair (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1845)...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Nov 2011, 18:45
MOM: Thanks for getting the WCDT started; my employer had other plans for me this morning  :x :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 27 Nov 2011, 18:52
Next week

Michael Buffer.

"And now, for all those in attendance at Coffee of Doom, and the millions of webcomic fans at home, around the world...

...LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUMMMBLEEEEE!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 27 Nov 2011, 22:37
Angus should be getting back this week.  Just on the Faye front, I wanna see how he handles the glasses and hair. 

Perfect time for the McPhee clan to show up for a surprise visit.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 27 Nov 2011, 22:47
Sister!!

So, you have a twin sister!

Obi-wan was wise to hide her from me, you're feelings have now betrayed her too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 27 Nov 2011, 22:54
Ustream's started...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 27 Nov 2011, 23:07
 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: CompSarge on 28 Nov 2011, 00:30
Comic! With an extra-handsome cameo in the first panel, no less!  :lol:

Daaaaaaaang, Angus. You're laying it on a bit thick, aren't you?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Nov 2011, 00:32
That cinches it.  he knew damn well what he was doing to her when he told her he loved her before he left. 

And now he's doing it just to watch the hair effect...


Classic Angus. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 28 Nov 2011, 00:34
I hope she doesn't go straight to the coping mechanism now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: karlibell22 on 28 Nov 2011, 00:35
Not sure if I'm the only one, but daaaaaaang I like Faye's face w/o bangs in the way! Angus is a sweet little troll of a boyfriend.. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 28 Nov 2011, 00:39
That cinches it.  he knew damn well what he was doing to her when he told her he loved her before he left. 

I don't think so myself.  I believe what happened is that he noticed Faye's uncomfortable reaction after the fact, and spend all weekend worrying about it just like Faye did.  I expect what he's doing now is trying to fish for a conversation about it so they can get it resolved and move forward.  Either that or he's trying to turn it into a joke.  Not sure I agree with his approach either way, but then again I prefer the direct approach myself (it's blunt, but greatly reduces a chance of misinterpretation).  At least it looks like he's trying to address it, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 28 Nov 2011, 00:40
Yeah, they had to talk about it sooner or later. Angus seems to have fallen rather hard, hasn't he? Not that that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 28 Nov 2011, 00:44
Did Jeph just make a guest appearance... in his own comic?  :psyduck:

Also, it looks like Angus is fully aware that Faye is having issues with the L word.

lubricant
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AquaNinja on 28 Nov 2011, 01:24
Did Jeph just make a guest appearance... in his own comic?  :psyduck:
Eh, it's happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=655).
I don't think that is actually Jeph in that comic, the news post just leads me to believe that he is just making fun of himself with Faye's dialouge.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ZBixby on 28 Nov 2011, 01:28
Did Jeph just make a guest appearance... in his own comic?  :psyduck:

Also, it looks like Angus is fully aware that Faye is having issues with the L word.

lubricant

I feel stupid... I zoomed in on my browser to read what you wrote when I could have just quoted you to see it.... Touche sir.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 28 Nov 2011, 01:33
Jeph looks very tired in that first panel.

I wonder if QC world Jeph's sleep patterns are as fucked up as ours's is.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AquaNinja on 28 Nov 2011, 01:39
Did Jeph just make a guest appearance... in his own comic?  :psyduck:
Eh, it's happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=655).
I don't think that is actually Jeph in that comic, the news post just leads me to believe that he is just making fun of himself with Faye's dialouge.
He's got identical piercings, that's good enough for me :mrgreen:

Fair enough, there is a good chance I could be wrong. It has been known to happen (a lot more often then I care to admit). And that was also quite a while ago and I am guessing that it is very possible that Jeph looked different back then. Infact, lets just say you were right. Works for me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 28 Nov 2011, 01:42
He's got identical piercings, that's good enough for me :mrgreen:

It's an interesting thought, really. Jeph is the one who made the QC world, determines the fate of his characters and the world, really. He wields a graphics tablet of infinite power, yet when we see him, he is a tired, slightly sad man with no idea of the kind of destructive power he holds.

Our own world could very well be a mere sketch on some internet comic, and the guy we walk by when we step outside may unknowingly be the penmaster...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 28 Nov 2011, 01:47
For the record, I have no clue what "Thanksgiving" is ... its just a weird thing that sometimes appears in american sourced material.

I ignore it just as much as Halloween, American Football, or these weird american weddings (where the father has to "bring the bride", really icky stone age style).
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AquaNinja on 28 Nov 2011, 01:50
Jeph looks very tired in that first panel.

I wonder if QC world Jeph's sleep patterns are as fucked up as ours's is.

I kinda feel like real world Jeph's sleep pattern is as fucked up as ours are. Which no doubt makes it even worse in the QC universe.... Every thing there is much more strange than in our universe, I'm assuming that means sleep patterns as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 28 Nov 2011, 01:54
For the record, I have no clue what "Thanksgiving" is ... its just a weird thing that sometimes appears in american sourced material.

It's an American and a Canadian holiday generally derived from a 17th century celebration wherein colonists celebrated their thanks to God for their survival via a feast. It was turned into a national holiday by Abraham Lincoln. It's basically an extension of what was a commonplace European harvest festival that grew into the holiday that exists now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Nov 2011, 01:56
weird american weddings (where the father has to "bring the bride"

My wife is shocked that my 39-year-old daughter, who left home at 19, has just asked me to "give her away" at her wedding next summer.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 28 Nov 2011, 01:58
Poor bastard.  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 28 Nov 2011, 02:11
For comic #2066...

1. Aw, cheer up cameo-appearance dude of panel #1.

2. Also, does the RL version have a bicep tattoo that says "Fear is the mind-"...?  If so, that is awesome.

3. Fear is the mind-"what" ?  Fear is the mind-"what" ?!?  The mystery of the tattoo is unbearable!  *jerks hand out from Gom Jabbar box*

4. The sign in the background...  Train Danger "Trainager" (???  Cannot make the third line out.)

5. It does seem like a calculated move/comment by Angus to provoke Faye in panel #3.  Seeing the way his eyes look and the way his head is angled forward when he says, "I love you so much."

6. Her anxiety!  It's over NINE-THOUSAAAAND!!!  *crushes glasses*
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 28 Nov 2011, 02:52
Angus is a sweet little troll of a boyfriend.. :)

I'd say it's Faye who's looking more like a troll (http://eddieraysmoviereviews.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/troll-bank-gr1.jpeg). ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 28 Nov 2011, 02:53
Did Jeph just make a guest appearance... in his own comic?  :psyduck:
Eh, it's happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=655).
I don't think that is actually Jeph in that comic, the news post just leads me to believe that he is just making fun of himself with Faye's dialouge.
He's got identical piercings, that's good enough for me :mrgreen:

Fair enough, there is a good chance I could be wrong. It has been known to happen (a lot more often then I care to admit). And that was also quite a while ago and I am guessing that it is very possible that Jeph looked different back then. Infact, lets just say you were right. Works for me.
Quoooooote tunnnneeelllll.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 28 Nov 2011, 03:00
He's got identical piercings, that's good enough for me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye8mB6VsUHw) :mrgreen:

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: CompSarge on 28 Nov 2011, 03:04

4. The sign in the background...  Train Danger "Trainager" (???  Cannot make the third line out.)


"Trainger" (as in "Train" and "Danger" combined.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AquaNinja on 28 Nov 2011, 03:07

Quoooooote tunnnneeelllll.

Heh, my bad. Sorry 'bout that folks.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Nov 2011, 03:47
Fear is the mind-"what" ?!?  The mystery of the tattoo is unbearable!

What unbearable mystery is there, as you clearly know the reference?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Welu on 28 Nov 2011, 04:19
My wife is shocked that my 39-year-old daughter, who left home at 19, has just asked me to "give her away" at her wedding next summer.

I know it's to do with the trading of a wife for fortune and a really anti-feminist thing [/oversimplification], but the Daddy's Girl in me thinks that is really sweet.

Angus even has the jawline of the Trollface a bit in Panel 1 and 3. If I had access I'd do the shoop.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Nov 2011, 04:35
So love turns her into a Saiyan?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 28 Nov 2011, 04:47
Well Faye, he came back and is still saying the same thing as Friday.  Good start to your week.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DrPhibes on 28 Nov 2011, 04:51
Whats the tattoo on the right persons arm say?
Is he a comic representatation of Jeph?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Nov 2011, 05:09
Yes he is; "Fear is the mind-" (to complete the phrase and discover its context, read Dune ).

I don't recall that being what Jeph actually has there, though he does have something; I can't lay hands on any picture of Jeph's tats, as it's not a matter that interests me.  He has said that his favourite tats (not in that picture) are of birds.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 28 Nov 2011, 05:19
Yes he is; "Fear is the mind-" (to complete the phrase and discover its context, read Dune ).

I don't recall that being what Jeph actually has there, though he does have something; I can't lay hands on any picture of Jeph's tats, as it's not a matter that interests me.  He has said that his favourite tats (not in that picture) are of birds.

I didn't want to link to any actual images of him floating around the web (that would be weird and whatnot)... So here we have Jeph in cartoon form... drawn by and described by Jeph! He actually mentions the fear tattoo and such. And yes, it IS the guy in today's QC comic, minus the goatee. He even included the ear gauges.

http://qcjeph.livejournal.com/95521.html
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Nov 2011, 05:28
Also this (http://jephjacques.com/post/5437206524/new-tattoo-day-takin-a-chance-and-sharing-these).
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Nov 2011, 05:53
Yes he is; "Fear is the mind-" (to complete the phrase and discover its context, read Dune ).

Of course, you could also go back here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=351).

But that's not the same quote, though. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 28 Nov 2011, 06:01
For the record, I have no clue what "Thanksgiving" is ... its just a weird thing that sometimes appears in american sourced material.

It's an American and a Canadian holiday generally derived from a 17th century celebration wherein colonists celebrated their thanks to God for their survival via a feast. It was turned into a national holiday by Abraham Lincoln. It's basically an extension of what was a commonplace European harvest festival that grew into the holiday that exists now.

FYI Canadian Thanksgiving is a month before American Thanksgiving, taking place around the second weekend of October.  It's also minus legends about Piuritans/Pilgrims and Native Americans meeting, since Piuritans/Pilgrims didn't play much of a role in the early days of Canada.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 28 Nov 2011, 06:04
Did Jeph just make a guest appearance... in his own comic?  :psyduck:
Eh, it's happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=655).

It's funny that Faye didn't notice the girl in panel 3 is apparently an alternate universe version of Dora who didn't get heavily de-Gothifiied at some point.  How she crossed the barriers between parallel universes, and why she came to Coffee of Doom, is a question that likely will never be answered.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: El_Flesh on 28 Nov 2011, 06:06
Quote
stupid looking guy in the first panel

He's depressed because he fell face-first into a tackle box.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 28 Nov 2011, 06:12
FYI Canadian Thanksgiving is a month before American Thanksgiving, taking place around the second weekend of October.  It's also minus legends about Piuritans/Pilgrims and Native Americans meeting, since Piuritans/Pilgrims didn't play much of a role in the early days of Canada.

Yes, I imagine I could have included paragraphs about French settlers, Samuel de Champlain and Martin Frobisher, but I was trying to avoid a lengthy overexplanation. That's what Wikipedia is for. Well, that and wanton vandalism, ego battles and nonsensical page-hover fiefdoms.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: lepetitfromage on 28 Nov 2011, 06:26
I'm glad Angus has returned, Faye needed him to come back so she could get out of her own head and back to the reality of the situation. I also think it's good that he reiterated his previous sentiment. I think it's more real to Faye now- before, it was "omg he said he loves me but he then he left what the hell omg" and now he's back, able to talk about things. Then again....now that I think about it, Faye could have easily called him while he was away but I suppose she was too nervous/busy with Coping Mechanisms. I just hope Angus doesn't poke fun and tell her it's not a big deal or get defeated that she didn't say it back. I'd like to see him step up his boyfriendly duties and have an open, honest conversation to ease Faye into the next stage of their relationship rather than letting this lead to an argument.

I also really enjoyed the cameo and I think Faye looks super cute in panel 2. I'm a big fan of the spiked up hair as well, I think it would be fun for her to cut it just a bit shorter and spike it regularly (although preferably with a hair product instead of anxiety).


Also: the phrase "ridiculous cockatoo pompadour" is amazing.

Hope everyone who celebrates had an enjoyable holiday with minimal family insanity.  :-) Mine was decent, spent it with my fiancee's family because after my many attempts to plan something nice for my parents, my dad is still anti-holiday this year (I suppose it's to be expected after a flooded house and 3+ months without any insurance moolah).
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 28 Nov 2011, 06:27
If there´s one thing I never get tired of it´s Dune references.

Dune Dune Dune Dune Dune

I even wrote a paper on the 1984 movie this year ^-^
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Welu on 28 Nov 2011, 06:48
Faye's spike has reminded me of Dora in the last panel of this: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1934

Hair is just like tails or ears for expressiveness for people in the QC-verse it seems.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 28 Nov 2011, 06:49
Angus has found the perfect way of messing with her head.. what's next, him spouting vague references to dead fathers?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 28 Nov 2011, 06:51
what's next, him spouting vague references to dead fathers?

UGH.

For the love of Pete that would be way across the line.

Seriously.

It's one thing to talk about a bad haircut and make jokes. It's way, WAY another to make light of the suicide of a loved one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 28 Nov 2011, 06:54
Yeah I know, that bastard!  :mrgreen:

Honestly I don't think he would do that. He's kind of moving towards the line though, but in a way that's probably good for her.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Nov 2011, 06:54
He already trod on that memory (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1558) by mistake (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1559).
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Precipice on 28 Nov 2011, 08:29
Regarding the comic posted yesterday on his Tumblr...

That's gotta be Marigold and Hannelore playing Skyrim.   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 28 Nov 2011, 09:54
7. Saw both links towards Jeph's Litany of Fear bicep tattoo.  As I posted earlier, that is awesome.

8. It will be interesting to see how Faye's new hairstyle holds up after sleep...or sex... :evil:

9. @pwhodges...  Of course I knew the reference, especially since I have posted repeatedly that I will never tire of Dune references in this web-comic.  I was poking fun at myself in light of comic #2066.  Guess I forgot to add the " :{ " to signal a joking comment.

10. For those yet still un-familiar with Frank Herbert's Dune:  (though I cannot imagine why you would be if you read this web-comic... :wink: )

The (Bene Gesserit) Litany Against Fear

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

(That being said...if you have done so yet, go read Dune!)

[Post Edit: Corrected my error of "Litany of Fear" to the correct "Litany Against Fear," as Akima pointed out down-thread.  In my defense, I did type it out originally from memory.   ... ... great maker, I am such a dork for knowing it memory...]
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 28 Nov 2011, 12:04
I have liked the Faye-Angus story so far, mostly because the boy takes as well as he dishes and recognizes (sometimes even in time) when he crosses the line, but man, in real life it can be tiring to deal with someone who constantly is pushing your buttons. In my experience, those who enjoy it the most are the ones who cry the loudest when they find out what some of the buttons do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Nov 2011, 12:06
(That being said...if you have done so yet, go read Dune!)

I read Dune.  

Thirty some-odd years ago.  


Somthing about big worms, and blue eyes... and sand in your wet suit... and the spice of life?  

If there´s one thing I never get tired of it´s Dune references.

Dune Dune Dune Dune Dune

I even wrote a paper on the 1984 movie this year ^-^

What's Orwell's 1984 got to do with Dune?   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kyronea on 28 Nov 2011, 12:47
So am I the only one who notices that the other extra in the first panel looks like a female Sven?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 28 Nov 2011, 13:09
So am I the only one who notices that the other extra in the first panel looks like a female Sven?
Nope.  I had that exact same thought too.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 28 Nov 2011, 13:13
Eh, it's happened before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=655).

I didn't know Dora's family was Taiwanese!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYxOBoHHJ9M)

So love turns her into a Saiyan?

I thought you said Sybian there for a moment. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybian)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Nov 2011, 13:25
or get defeated that she didn't say it back.
Well she did say it back the first time.

@casriojpn - Did you really think that?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 28 Nov 2011, 13:39
So, now Solid Snake will come out of a box and silently throttle Angus.



I get the feeling that this week will prove interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 28 Nov 2011, 13:49
Every time I watch the stream of a comic with Faye in it, I'm struck by how different she looks before Jeph draws her glasses on her. It's especially noticeable, I think, in the first panel of 2066. Before the glasses, she's little-girl happy to see Angus. Then those Velma Dinkley frames with their industrial-strength earpieces go on and suddenly, half her face is unreadable. I think Faye's glasses might be a character in their own right.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 28 Nov 2011, 14:42
Heh, my bad. Sorry 'bout that folks.
Don't worry about it, quote tunnels are fun! The important thing is to bring a flashlight so you can explore deeper inside.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 28 Nov 2011, 14:43
Our own world could very well be a mere sketch on some internet comic, and the guy we walk by when we step outside may unknowingly be the penmaster...
"Once Zhuangzi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuang_Tzu) dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Zhuangzi. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Zhuangzi. But he didn't know if he was Zhuangzi who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Zhuangzi."

Does mopey cap-guy dream he is a successful web-cartoonist, or Jeph dream he is a mopey cap-guy? I wonder more who nerd-pen-pocket-girl is. Another cartoonist, perhaps? The first time I glanced at cap-guy's tattoo, I read it as "Fear is the WMD". Incidentally Pendrake, it is not the Litany Of Fear, but the Litany Against  Fear. How do forum-members pronounce "Bene Gesserit", BTW? I always read it as Benn-eh Gezzerit (with a hard G as in golf or gun, and the double-S "buzzed" like the first double-S in possession), but Wikipedia tells me I have been doing it wrong.

Angus is back with a zing!  And yes, "fallen like a ton of bricks" I think he has.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 28 Nov 2011, 15:33
Every time I watch the stream of a comic with Faye in it, I'm struck by how different she looks before Jeph draws her glasses on her. It's especially noticeable, I think, in the first panel of 2066. Before the glasses, she's little-girl happy to see Angus. Then those Velma Dinkley frames with their industrial-strength earpieces go on and suddenly, half her face is unreadable. I think Faye's glasses might be a character in their own right.
For me the same thing happens with Marigold, though not quite to the same magnitude as with Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 28 Nov 2011, 16:01
I'm always very careful about quoting someone who called for the death of everyone who venerated a (certain) philosopher without fully understanding his doctrine.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 28 Nov 2011, 16:02
I always read it as Benn-eh Gezzerit (with a hard G as in golf or gun

A soft G makes the link with "Jesuit" more obvious (if you believe in it, and it's quite convincing once raised).  But I always imagined a hard G until that was pointed out to me...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Nov 2011, 16:19
Are Faye's glasses an emotional deflector shield? (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=272)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 28 Nov 2011, 16:33
Quote
It's an interesting thought, really. Jeph is the one who made the QC world, determines the fate of his characters and the world, really. He wields a graphics tablet of infinite power, yet when we see him, he is a tired, slightly sad man with no idea of the kind of destructive power he holds.

Our own world could very well be a mere sketch on some internet comic, and the guy we walk by when we step outside may unknowingly be the penmaster...

Read the amory wars it's like that but awesomer
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 28 Nov 2011, 17:00
I'm always very careful about quoting someone who called for the death of everyone who venerated a (certain) philosopher without fully understanding his doctrine.
How very elliptical! I was quoting Zhuangzi, or rather the book of the same name attributed to him. To which passage are you referring?

A soft G makes the link with "Jesuit" more obvious (if you believe in it, and it's quite convincing once raised).
I was not aware of the Jesuit thing until I read the Wikipedia article this morning: "In Dreamer of Dune, Brian Herbert's 2003 biography of his father, the younger Herbert speculates that the name "Gesserit" is supposed to suggest to the reader the word "Jesuit" and thus evoke undertones of a religious order." I wonder what kind of dunce would feel that any notional connection to the Jesuits was necessary to "evoke undertones of a religious order" in an organization that grants the title Reverend Mother to its senior members!

Edit: I suppose Frank Herbert's notes should be regarded as decisive on the pronunciation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XL9kkQ6Hw2s#t=220s
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 28 Nov 2011, 18:44
I'm always very careful about quoting someone who called for the death of everyone who venerated a (certain) philosopher without fully understanding his doctrine.
How very elliptical! I was quoting Zhuangzi, or rather the book of the same name attributed to him. To which passage are you referring?

Admittedly a fairly loose interpretation, but this one (http://ctext.org/zhuangzi/tian-zi-fang#n2867).
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: St.Clair on 28 Nov 2011, 21:06
My own version, the Litany against Civilization (by Sid Meier):

"I must not Civ.
Civ is the time-killer.
Civ is the one-more-turn that devours weekends."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Nov 2011, 21:45
One word: "D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 28 Nov 2011, 21:46
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted.
DAMNIT JW, YOU STOLE MY THUNDER!!  :-D
Let's all post your Giant D'aww.

Quote
"D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 28 Nov 2011, 21:56
Love panel 3.  You get a real good look at how weird Faye's hair is at the moment.  And a blushing Faye is quite the sight to see.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 28 Nov 2011, 22:01
Dammit. You stole mine too. Oh well... taking it back now...

"D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 28 Nov 2011, 22:23
It's an interesting thought, really. Jeph is the one who made the QC world, determines the fate of his characters and the world, really. He wields a graphics tablet of infinite power, yet when we see him, he is a tired, slightly sad man with no idea of the kind of destructive power he holds.

Jeph is ... Possessed by the spirit of Charles Schulz?
QC did start a couple years after Schulz died ...
Think about it. a philosophical, angsty, slice of life, humor-in-the-small-things comic that is very different from the way it was when it began, with a large and changing cast ...
Kinda geeked about the possibilities, really. The QC Holiday TV specials; a beer-sledding hill and arena with a snack bar featuring Coffee of Doom drinks and Secret Bakery pastries (and Midnight Hobo bourbon); a chain of "Psychiatric Help 5 cents" sidewalk booths
featuring Dr. Corrinne; a hipster playland at an amusement park of your choice with employees running around in giant-head costumes of the QC characters ...
And, of course, Pintsize on the side of a blimp selling insurance.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 28 Nov 2011, 22:39
BoDJangles, will  this  (http://db.tt/DzeEzXiH) help? I was stuck on a drawing one night and drew this  to unstick my brain.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 28 Nov 2011, 22:56
So Marten is Charlie Brown, Faye is Lucy, Winslow is Woodstock, and Marigold is Pig Pen?  :psyduck: :psyduck:

But who are Linus, Patty, Sally, the red haired girl and so on, let alone the unmatched QC characters?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 28 Nov 2011, 23:00
In the Halloween edition Pintsize would be flying a UBMEOD instead of a doghouse?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 28 Nov 2011, 23:10
The QC <=> Charlie Brown topic seems to keep coming up in the WCDT threads recently. I can certainly see some parallels. It probably deserves a thread all of its very own. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Nov 2011, 23:11
I'm surprised that no one's commented on the emotional openness and honesty that Faye's displaying.  

It really made me feel good to see her admit to her own feelings for Angus, even if it was post-mortem...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 28 Nov 2011, 23:16
Don't see why not. But one distinctive feature of  the QCholiday specials would be that they run at whatever time of the year Jeph wants. And they might or might not feature Yelling Bird, who would speak in comic cuss symbols instead of Woodstock's series of lowercase L's.

Westrim,  I figure Sweet-Tits can be the red-haired girl. Or maybe the girl who slapped Marten in the bar the night he tried to pick up Padma.

Tova, good idea. Mods?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Nov 2011, 23:26
Yes, Faye has made immense progress.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Truec on 28 Nov 2011, 23:29
My own version, the Litany against Civilization (by Sid Meier):

"I must not Civ.
Civ is the time-killer.
Civ is the one-more-turn that devours weekends."
You can limit playing Civilization to weekends?  What manner of superhuman creature are you?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 28 Nov 2011, 23:38
And I wonder if Angus will ever learn just how freaked out Faye got (i.e. slightly more than "a little").

Or if he knows her well enough to have figured it out.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 28 Nov 2011, 23:39
I'm surprised that no one's commented on the emotional openness and honesty that Faye's displaying.  
I think we're trying not to jinx it
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 28 Nov 2011, 23:47


What's Orwell's 1984 got to do with Dune?   :-D


Did I have that one coming?
I probably did :D


As for Orwell..guess what year the Nineteen Eighty-Four movie was shot?
Just a quick hint, the answer may induce serious psyducking :psyduck:



Comic:

Meh, happy couples are happy.
Then again Faye is all cute when she´s insecure.
I can live with it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 28 Nov 2011, 23:49
I'm starting to really like Angus.  It sure does seem to take a lot to phase him.  Then again, he's lived with Marigold for how long now, so I imagine Faye's shenanigans are nothing compared to what he's used to (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1677).  Then again, I'm not sure I want to imply that Faye is easier to interact with than Marigold.  I mean, she's no angel (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=783) either... :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 29 Nov 2011, 00:01
I'm surprised that no one's commented on the emotional openness and honesty that Faye's displaying.

No one commented?  Then what are people going
Quote
"D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW."
about?

That's what I'd go "D'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW." about ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Somebody on 29 Nov 2011, 00:06
I'm surprised that no one's commented on the emotional openness and honesty that Faye's displaying.
After multiple Coping Mechanisms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster) and a punch to the head, she's probably too drain bamaged to fully inhibit ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 29 Nov 2011, 00:08
Today's comic? Good enough!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Blackjoker on 29 Nov 2011, 00:20
Both todays and yesterdays are interesting...though the fact that Faye apparently has startle response hair is...intriguing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 29 Nov 2011, 00:51
You can limit playing Civilization to weekends?  What manner of superhuman creature are you?
I'm superior to even that  :-P, I NEVER play it ...  :roll:


I'm starting to really like Angus.
Thats because he's superhumanly sensible.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 29 Nov 2011, 01:57
For comic #2067...

1. Artwise, Jeph did a great job showcasing the "Faye-hawk" from multiple angles, whether on purpose or just happened in the process.  Panel #3 where Angus & Faye are "leaning" upon each other is a really good wide-shot as well.

2. While blushing Hannelore will likely always be my favorite, blushing Faye is good too.  Much better than flushed Faye when she was with Sven.

3. I also like Angus' relaxed expression of "Good enough."  Which I think says he knew Faye's "retrospectively" answer already, or at least simply accepted it rather than worry over it (generally better to be "glass half full" in such cases).

4. Many long relationships have the solid but permeable bedrock of, "ehn- good enough for me." :wink: Which I think is a positive sign for Angus & Faye's relationship.  So here's to compromise! (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1734)

5. The Civilization series is the spice-melange to my mentat for turn-based strategic gaming... :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 29 Nov 2011, 02:26
I suddenly realized how much I like the third panel with Angus and Faye sitting next to each other on the couch.  They're still uncomfortable, they still haven't finished talking through it, but that isn't stopping them from wanting to be close to each other.  Very heartwarming.  Clearly, their relationship has moved far past "good enough", even if the two of them won't admit it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Lubricus on 29 Nov 2011, 03:11
The QC <=> Charlie Brown topic seems to keep coming up in the WCDT threads recently. I can certainly see some parallels. It probably deserves a thread all of its very own. :)

Let's see if I can derail it with this Peanuts-to-Modern-Webcomic link: http://dresdencodak.com/2009/07/20/youre-a-good-man-charlie-darwin/
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Welu on 29 Nov 2011, 03:15
I suddenly realized how much I like the third panel with Angus and Faye sitting next to each other on the couch.  They're still uncomfortable, they still haven't finished talking through it, but that isn't stopping them from wanting to be close to each other.  Very heartwarming.  Clearly, their relationship has moved far past "good enough", even if the two of them won't admit it.

This pretty much describes my relationship.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Nov 2011, 03:51
The QC <=> Charlie Brown topic seems to keep coming up in the WCDT threads recently. I can certainly see some parallels. It probably deserves a thread all of its very own. :)

You asked for it. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27652.0.html)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: lepetitfromage on 29 Nov 2011, 06:23
or get defeated that she didn't say it back.
Well she did say it back the first time.

whoops...guess i should reread a little more carefully next time  :-P


in regards to today's comic: blushing Faye is adorable and yay for relationship growth! i'm proud of Angus and Faye  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 29 Nov 2011, 06:26
My first thought:
How is there no giant explosion where Angus and Faye are talking about serious relationship stuff?

It seems I can still not come to term with Faye being comfortable in an actual relationship without so much as a punch to some shoulders... this is freaking me out. oO
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Throg on 29 Nov 2011, 06:43
Very savvy of Angus to open up as well, admitting that he spent a lot of time wondering if Faye meant it or not.

It's rather surprising, given the timeline: Faye goes from heavy duty coping mechanism, to acting as Marten's wingwoman with Padma, to post-hookup-angst-counseling, to admitting her feelings to her boyfling. That's a lot of progress for one weekend: I was gonna bet that Faye would crash back down into blind denial and whiskey.

Also--that Faye-hawk--ugh. Can't stand it, but can't look away.   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cyro on 29 Nov 2011, 06:51
5. The Civilization series is the spice-melange to my mentat for turn-based strategic gaming...

I now feel compelled to scour the internet in search of a Dune mod for Civ 5.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 29 Nov 2011, 07:17
Also--that Faye-hawk--ugh. Can't stand it, but can't look away.   :psyduck:

Well, that's your own fault for avataring it.   :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mr_Rose on 29 Nov 2011, 07:32
You know what really scares me about Faye's new 'do? It recalls to mind the entity known as 'jedward'—a manufactured pop duo—despite the fact that I know nothing about them save their existence and have actively avoided the associated hullabaloo regarding talent shows. It just goes to show how abominably insidious this stuff truly is.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Delator on 29 Nov 2011, 07:48
Ask her about her glasses!!

Seriously...Angus probably has insider info on Padma via Renee. I can't wait to see what he makes of recent events.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: themacnut on 29 Nov 2011, 08:24
It would probably be better if Renee was never mentioned. Faye and Angus almost got into their first fight when Renee came up as a topic of conversation (thanks to Padma-which probably means they shouldn't hang around Padma anymore either...).

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: EcoReck on 29 Nov 2011, 09:48
Faye and Angus almost got into their first fight when Renee came up as a topic of conversation

But that's wrong.


Also, the blush on Faye's face is a bit weird.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 29 Nov 2011, 10:08
Jeph is ... Possessed by the spirit of Charles Schulz?
QC did start a couple years after Schulz died ...
Think about it. a philosophical, angsty, slice of life, humor-in-the-small-things comic that is very different from the way it was when it began, with a large and changing cast ...
Kinda geeked about the possibilities, really. The QC Holiday TV specials; a beer-sledding hill and arena with a snack bar featuring Coffee of Doom drinks and Secret Bakery pastries (and Midnight Hobo bourbon); a chain of "Psychiatric Help 5 cents" sidewalk booths
featuring Dr. Corrinne; a hipster playland at an amusement park of your choice with employees running around in giant-head costumes of the QC characters ...
And, of course, Pintsize on the side of a blimp selling insurance.

Of course, with both respective artists having suffered depression and anxiety as well...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 29 Nov 2011, 11:36
Yeah, and judging from the tweets, Jeph's having a bit if a day today.

... Hey Jeph, if you're seeing this, hang in there. Do what you gotta do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 29 Nov 2011, 11:42
And if you have to be possessed by another cartoonist, or draw inspiration from one Mr. Schultz is a fine choice.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 29 Nov 2011, 11:44
Bill Watterson (of Calvin & Hobbes) always claimed Schulz as an inspiration, too. 

It showed. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 29 Nov 2011, 12:00
The main thing QC has in common with C&H and Peanuts -- the uniqueness of each character -- has been remarked on ih here and elsewhere already, so I'll just say, "Yeah."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 29 Nov 2011, 14:04
6. I think many comic-strip artists (paper and web-comic) safely draw their inspiration from Charles Schultz &/or Bill Waterson.  Jeph has also stated he draws inspiration from Kiyohiko Azuma's Azumanga Daioh and Keiichi Arawi's Nichijou, also strip-oriented mangas.  And they say print is dead...

7. It might be amusing to see Faye in her canary yellow (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=150) dress coupled with a mousse'd up Faye-hawk.  Then she might really look like a space parrot.

8. @cryo...  I can see a Dune-mod for Sid Meier's Civilization V now...

House Harkonnen has invaded Arrakis!

(Ally) Oda Nobunaga has declared war upon House Atreides!

(Ally) Emperor Shaddam Corrino IV declares war upon House Atreides!

(Ally) Napoleon has declared war upon House Atreides!

(Ally) The Spacing Guild has declared war upon House Atreides!

(Ally) President Washington declares war upon House Atreides!


House Atreides declares war upon House Harkonnen!

(Ally) Catherine the Great (of the Great Houses?) declares war upon House Harkonnen!

(Ally) Gandhi declares war upon House Harkonnen!

(Ally) Ram Khamhaeng (Siam/Thailand) declares war upon House Harkonnen!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 29 Nov 2011, 14:23
Somehow, Faye has breathed life into her hair and created MoodReader Hair V1.0

Hmmmmmmm

I wonder if it'll try to mate with that thing on Donald Trumps head?   :-D



Emotional growth

You have come far young Padawan
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 29 Nov 2011, 15:06
You have come far young Padma-wan

Wait, what? 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ZBixby on 29 Nov 2011, 15:44
I'm starting to really like Angus.  It sure does seem to take a lot to phase him.  Then again, he's lived with Marigold for how long now, so I imagine Faye's shenanigans are nothing compared to what he's used to (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1677).  Then again, I'm not sure I want to imply that Faye is easier to interact with than Marigold.  I mean, she's no angel (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=783) either... :psyduck:

Well we can't really say how long he's lived with her as this could suggest anything. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1363) Then again now that I rethink it that might just mean Momo and Marigold but burning a goat doesn't seem in Marigold's personality.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 29 Nov 2011, 15:47
You have come far young Padma-wan

Wait, what? 

Huh?  Who?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 29 Nov 2011, 17:16

Seriously...Angus probably has insider info on Padma via Renee. I can't wait to see what he makes of recent events.

This occurred to me today as well. Angus is bound to have some backstory on the Secret Bakery crew in general, either from direct experience or via Renee.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 29 Nov 2011, 19:32
You have come far young Padma-wan

Wait, what? 

Huh?  Who?

When? Where?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 29 Nov 2011, 19:33
You have come far young Padma-wan
Wait, what? 
Huh?  Who?
When? Where?
Why? How?


And there you go.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 29 Nov 2011, 19:54
Well we can't really say how long he's lived with her as this could suggest anything. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1363) Then again now that I rethink it that might just mean Momo and Marigold but burning a goat doesn't seem in Marigold's personality.

Thanks for that reminder of the concept of "rebound sass".
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 29 Nov 2011, 20:06
You have come far young Padma-wan
Wait, what? 
Huh?  Who?
When? Where?
Why? How?


And there you go.

Yup
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 29 Nov 2011, 20:37
Somehow, Faye has breathed life into her hair and created MoodReader Hair V1.0

Hmmmmmmm

I wonder if it'll try to mate with that thing on Donald Trumps head?   :-D


That's a Brain Squirrel from Vanamos 6, and it only mates with other Brain Squirrels.  Fortunately for us, since Brain Squirrels reproduce like Tribbles.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 29 Nov 2011, 23:37
You have come far young Padma-wan
Wait, what? 
Huh?  Who?
When? Where?
Why? How?


And there you go.

Yup

that shit don't make no sense
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 29 Nov 2011, 23:42
You have come far young Padma-wan
Wait, what? 
Huh?  Who?
When? Where?
Why? How?


And there you go.

Yup

that shit don't make no sense

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 29 Nov 2011, 23:45
Yup

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/cesariojpn/c08f98d6.jpg)

If your gonna use my trademarked yell, it's YUUUP!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ecstaticjoy on 29 Nov 2011, 23:51
What does Jeph's tattoo say in 2066 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2066)?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Nov 2011, 23:55
It is the beginning of "Fear is the mind killer".
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 30 Nov 2011, 00:36
I wished there would be some kind of link between personal messages and the message they would refer to because honestly, I totally fail to manage that connection.



What does Jeph's tattoo say in 2066 ?
Good question, we'll have to wait another 55 years to find out ! :-D (SCNR)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Nov 2011, 00:38
What does Jeph's tattoo say in 2066 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2066)?
It is the beginning of "Fear is the mind killer".

Also, that's the second line - the first is up under the shirt sleeve.

I posted a link back up the thread to a photo of it IRL, in the earlier discussion of it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Indicible on 30 Nov 2011, 01:57
And Momo went bankai on Clinton.

Does anyone get the feeling his encounter with Hanners is anything but coincidental?

Subsidiary question: how does Momo conduct the discharge through her body without burning her clothes?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Delator on 30 Nov 2011, 02:02
Ugh. I thought we'd seen the last of Clinton.

Wake me when he's gone.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Nov 2011, 02:03
how does Momo conduct the discharge through her body without burning her clothes?

Easy - her clothes are woven through with conductive fibres.  Anyway, now we know that she has the same zapping ability in this chassis as in the previous one; we should be glad, I guess, that Pintsize is an old enough model not to have it, though the laser (now removed) was in a similar class.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 30 Nov 2011, 02:20
Subsidiary question: how does Momo conduct the discharge through her body without burning her clothes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstable_molecules
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Arancaytar on 30 Nov 2011, 02:26
I guess she didn't hit him with full power. Clinton's socks are still on (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2012), and he was not even a meter away, let alone 100.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 30 Nov 2011, 02:27
Well, with that comic, we can tick another item off the QC forum-goers wish list.

Love the electric discharge effect in the second to last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Overkillengine on 30 Nov 2011, 02:29
Also, since one can receive a nasty electric shock without burning clothes; it is also likely possible to give a shock without incinerating your garments.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Baka no Kami on 30 Nov 2011, 02:31
Huh, I've been reading QC for a couple of years and never noticed that Hannelore's last name was Ellicott. That's the street I live on.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 30 Nov 2011, 02:32
Damn, Clinton, you got creepy written in your genes, ain'tcha? You're like a friggin' moth to a flame.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 02:39
In all fairness, it seemed to me like his interests were more rooted in the "new tech" way, and not in a "I want to boff momo" kind of way. From his viewpoint she is just a new toy, akin to the latest other gadgets that pop up from time to time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mr_Rose on 30 Nov 2011, 02:52
In all fairness, it seemed to me like his interests were more rooted in the "new tech" way, and not in a "I want to boff momo" kind of way. From his viewpoint she is just a new toy, akin to the latest other gadgets that pop up from time to time.
And thinking of people as 'new toys' isn't creepy as all get out?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 30 Nov 2011, 03:05
So the moth named Clinton keeps circling his personal porchlight.

I guess we should call it progress that he recognizes his action as creepy on his own. Even though it was a bit late to do much good. :|
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 30 Nov 2011, 03:07
I give him credit for knowing that he was creepy. Better than nothing. I honestly like the guy, he just needs some...  help.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 30 Nov 2011, 03:08
In all fairness, it seemed to me like his interests were more rooted in the "new tech" way, and not in a "I want to boff momo" kind of way. From his viewpoint she is just a new toy, akin to the latest other gadgets that pop up from time to time.
And thinking of people as 'new toys' isn't creepy as all get out?

New robot  toy.  And what was creepy was ignoring the sentient AI that is in the chassis before touching the "new skin"

Least you could do is ask, dude.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 30 Nov 2011, 03:13
Hannelore's the perfect person to help Clinton with this. She's a recovering creeper too  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 30 Nov 2011, 03:19
For comic #2068...

1. It was highly unlikely the character of Clinton would be scrapped that easily.  Jeph worked upon designing Clinton far too much for that to happen.  Personally I like the original concept of a female Clinton, which was later used as Marten's creepy hairdresser (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1983), who is likely to have been a one-shot character.

2. I do think this meeting is actually happenstance (well, as happenstance as can be with someone scripting their lives... :wink: ) rather than Clinton semi-stalking Hannelore down, since it appears that the girl-trio are just walking along out on the street.

3. Hannelore's light-blue outfit is a cute one.  I thought it was the same as back in #2065, but it is a different top and shorts, as opposed to a dress in #2065.

4. Momo was a great punchline character for this strip, more so since she never said a word.  Her charge-up and expression in panel #5 was really done well, art-wise.  Pity Samantha was not around to see the punchline panel #6 :-) .

5. And curious fascination or not, if someone I do not know comes up to me and starts feeling me up, even if it were a hot chick (perhaps especially so, because that is far more suspicious), I have zero qualms about knocking them flat on their back to the ground.

6. Warning - While you were typing, in terms of Civilization V turns, enough new replies were posted to have erected The Great Wall of China.  You may wish to review your post, before the next epoch begins.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 30 Nov 2011, 04:15
I give him credit for knowing that he was creepy. Better than nothing. I honestly like the guy, he just needs some...  help.
Agreed.  I can see me getting annoyed with him after a while if he stays like this, but it could be interesting to watch him develop if he instead tries to learn some social graces.  And he could do far worse than ask for help from an ex-stalker (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=525), an ex-shut-in (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1460), and a walking social protocol database (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1573).

Also, I have to say, I LOVE Momo's expression in the last panel.  Yeah, I know I kind of like Clinton, but you have to admit: dude did deserve that. :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 04:35
And thinking of people as 'new toys' isn't creepy as all get out?

Robots aren't people.

I can just imagine some random person angrily, furiously typing something in response to that, but...

Setting aside our own world's drastic technical limitations in terms of AI, even in the QC world, if AnthroPCs were considered "people", then there would be quite a few instances where legal action would have been warranted- the very concept of the buying and selling of an AnthroPC, for starters, as we see in this comic where Momo thinks her "owner" wants to get rid of her and bursts into tears. I don't even have to mention the instance after instance of Pintsize being ripped apart, pummeled or dismembered, for some offense or another, with no repercussions to the owner at all.

Pintsize himself has claimed in prior strips past that AnthroPCs don't have equal rights.

What does that say about the QC Universe?

Are these people or are these pets?

Can people be sold on eBay if they misbehave?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Throg on 30 Nov 2011, 04:41
Soooo...(geez, I gotta start listing reactions like pendrake).

A. Clinton was able to spot Momo as an Idoru, an Anthro-PC, right off the bat? No talking, no vocal cue, no visual cue; her seams covered by clothes. How did he know immediately?

B. Was Jeph referencing a particular store in Northampton with the whole 'Bad Art!' / 'Touristy Bullshit!' store?  

C. Was that an Azumanga Daioh reference (the shoe getting knocked someplace inaccessible?)

D. Warning - while you were typing   Does EVERYONE here post right before work?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Nov 2011, 04:56
Before work?  It's my lunch break.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 30 Nov 2011, 04:56
Agreed.  I can see me getting annoyed with him after a while if he stays like this, but it could be interesting to watch him develop if he instead tries to learn some social graces.  And he could do far worse than ask for help from an ex-stalker (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=525), an ex-shut-in (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1460), and a walking social protocol database (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1573).

That idea has ... potential. I don't think that Jeph will write any major story arcs about it, but an occasional strip or two may come. Danielle Corsetto has recently touched the subject of educating awkward/creepy guys at least  (http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comic/gws-1257/)twice. (http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comic/gws-1280/)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 30 Nov 2011, 05:06
Robots aren't people.

Nope, they're not. Doesn't make sense if you have AI to program them like people, since people suck. Doesn't mean they're not in some way sentient. The QCverse, like the real world, has major sentient-being rights issues. In fact, part of the problem in the QC-verse is probably that robots are objectified and other-ed, and therefore more susceptible to abuse. I think the treatment of Pintsize is chilled vibes tho, since if he were a real person he'd be jailed for life.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Welu on 30 Nov 2011, 05:36
I like Clinton sort of, in the same way I've always liked creepy/awkward guys in fiction because I find them hilarious. Clinton seems to be learning though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 30 Nov 2011, 05:43
Can people be sold on eBay if they misbehave?
People can be sold, though not on e-bay, if they are female (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride-buying)...

Hanners is on the fashion cutting edge in a shorty jumpsuit? Actually, she is probably the best-dressed of the QC girls. Except when she forgets to put her pants on. I love Momo's blue lightning effect. And yes, Clinton, you were being creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 06:00
People can be sold, though not on e-bay, if they are female (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride-buying)...

Now we're getting into a whole other ball of wax; human trafficking, "mercenary marriage", sexual slavery and such. You know as well as I do that I was referring to what we would consider the generally liberated QC world and not a place where women are the property equivalent of a ham sandwich. As far as I am aware, civilized societies consider human trafficking and nonconsensual marriage to be abhorrent and degrading, an affront to freedom and equality.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Jabberwocky on 30 Nov 2011, 06:05
That idea has ... potential. I don't think that Jeph will write any major story arcs about it, but an occasional strip or two may come. Danielle Corsetto has recently touched the subject of educating awkward/creepy guys at least  (http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comic/gws-1257/)twice. (http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comic/gws-1280/)
Jeph and Danielle ought to collaborate on a crossover strip where it's revealed that Clinton, Jim, and Tucker were college roommates or somesuch.  Ayuh.

Quote
Warning - while you were typing...
Oh for the love of--
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Nov 2011, 06:09
how does Momo conduct the discharge through her body without burning her clothes?

Easy - her clothes are woven through with conductive fibres.  Anyway, now we know that she has the same zapping ability in this chassis as in the previous one; we should be glad, I guess, that Pintsize is an old enough model not to have it, though the laser (now removed) was in a similar class.

Just telling from the "before" panel, I suspect the TZAP! comes from either her ponytails or her face. She can probably direct it appropriately by pointing the tails at the assailant, or she can concentrate where the discharge should go on her skin... which would be doubly-bad for Clinton, since he was grabbing her with his bionic hand.

I'm surprised that his hand didn't end up launching into a suborbital trajectory. (Either that or get shocked back to the year 1955 with the "other" Marty...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 30 Nov 2011, 06:13
I can't be the only person who started reading today's strip and said "Go get him, Momo." 

I would imagine Clntion recognised her by hair colour, facial features, and other visual cues that are common to that body.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Nov 2011, 06:14
I give him credit for knowing that he was creepy. Better than nothing. I honestly like the guy, he just needs some...  help.
Agreed.  I can see me getting annoyed with him after a while if he stays like this, but it could be interesting to watch him develop if he instead tries to learn some social graces.  And he could do far worse than ask for help from an ex-stalker (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=525), an ex-shut-in (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1460), and a walking social protocol database (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1573).

Also, I have to say, I LOVE Momo's expression in the last panel.  Yeah, I know I kind of like Clinton, but you have to admit: dude did deserve that. :evil:

I notice in that one comic that Momo's charge-up came from the head as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: lepetitfromage on 30 Nov 2011, 06:16
Hannelore's the perfect person to help Clinton with this. She's a recovering creeper too  :-)

yes! i absolutely agree with this. i can imagine that there was a lot of conversation back when Hanners was introduced about what a weirdo creeper she was and now everyone loves her. i can't see him evolving as much as she did (and not nearly as fast) but i've always had a soft spot for Clinton. he's such a weird little guy but i feel like he has so much potential to really become an interesting fixture in the comic. i love that he is completely fascinated by everything that he comes across- he kinda sounds like a lot of us in the WCDT :-P


Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 06:17
I would imagine Clntion recognised her by hair colour, facial features, and other visual cues that are common to that body.

Indeed- the fact that he picked her out on sight as an "Idoru Platinum Deluxe" means that he's pretty versed on the AnthroPC range.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Nov 2011, 06:24
I would imagine Clntion recognised her by hair colour, facial features, and other visual cues that are common to that body.

Indeed- the fact that he picked her out on sight as an "Idoru Platinum Deluxe" means that he's pretty versed on the AnthroPC range.

Well, that probably was what most of his graduate studies were about. Doing a lot of research on human-APC interactions means he sees a lot of APC's.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Throg on 30 Nov 2011, 06:27
Significant, powered ponytails? All kinds of Azumanga Daioh shout-outs around here.   :-D

Poor Clinton: doomed to be a walking punchline (acts creepy ==> gets taser'd/slapped/abused).  Although his 'crush' on Hannelore was more tech-nerd-based, rather than sexual attraction; he practically ignored Hanners this time around compared to, um, feeling up Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: kent_eh on 30 Nov 2011, 06:32
I would imagine Clntion recognised her by hair colour, facial features, and other visual cues that are common to that body.

Indeed- the fact that he picked her out on sight as an "Idoru Platinum Deluxe" means that he's pretty versed on the AnthroPC range.

Well, that probably was what most of his graduate studies were about. Doing a lot of research on human-APC interactions means he sees a lot of APC's.

Exactly. He''s a total Cybernetics nerd.
He will probably be able to recognize any new model chassis, and most of the significant historical ones since the introduction of Antrho-PCs

The same way a car nerd can identify the make/model/year of some exotic European sports car without ever having been in the presence of one.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 30 Nov 2011, 06:36
Or guys like me can tell you what era the Warhammer minis were cast in - don't judge me.

Even if Momo doesn't have "rights" per se, it's still polite to ask the permission of the owner before fondling their property.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 06:38
Even if Momo doesn't have "rights" per se, it's still polite to ask the permission of the owner before fondling their property.

Of course. To use a quote that I KNOW is going to somehow get misunderstood by someone somewhere- you don't go petting a stranger's dog unless you feel like getting bit.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 30 Nov 2011, 06:39

I would imagine Clntion recognised her by hair colour, facial features, and other visual cues that are common to that body.

Not to mention that bright red irises aren't exactly common among humans.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: specter177 on 30 Nov 2011, 06:42
Even if Momo doesn't have "rights" per se, it's still polite to ask the permission of the owner before fondling their property.

Of course. To use a quote that I KNOW is going to somehow get misunderstood by someone somewhere- you don't go petting a stranger's dog unless you feel like getting bit.

I tend to think of the APC-Human relationship as kind of a step between pet-human and human-human. They are sold in stores like pets, but have more personal rights than pets. Also, wasn't there a comic where they mentioned an AI Equal Rights Amendment?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 06:45
I tend to think of the APC-Human relationship as kind of a step between pet-human and human-human. They are sold in stores like pets, but have more personal rights than pets. Also, wasn't there a comic where they mentioned an AI Equal Rights Amendment?

 It was mentioned, then I do believe quickly dismissed.  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=668)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 30 Nov 2011, 07:06
People can be sold, though not on e-bay, if they are female (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride-buying)...

Now we're getting into a whole other ball of wax; human trafficking, "mercenary marriage", sexual slavery and such. You know as well as I do that I was referring to what we would consider the generally liberated QC world and not a place where women are the property equivalent of a ham sandwich. As far as I am aware, civilized societies consider human trafficking and nonconsensual marriage to be abhorrent and degrading, an affront to freedom and equality.

Uh, all of those things were once considered normal, and those societies considered themselves civilised.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 30 Nov 2011, 07:20
Uh, all of those things were once considered normal, and those societies considered themselves civilised.

And so were leeches, holes in the head and the belief that a tall man in a carriage pulled the sun across the sky every day. Fuck relative morality, we're not living in 1576 anymore. I'm not going to dismiss thousands of years of societal progress just because some asshole living in a hut somewhere still thinks it's fine and dandy to sell off his daughter to an old fat guy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 30 Nov 2011, 07:46
I thought we'd seen the last of Clinton.
Me too.

No such luck.



5. And curious fascination or not, if someone I do not know comes up to me and starts feeling me up, even if it were a hot chick (perhaps especially so, because that is far more suspicious), I have zero qualms about knocking them flat on their back to the ground.
I dont think personal attractiveness (which also depends upon own perception, by the way) would matter at all with this. Ugly or beautiful, people are people.



A. Clinton was able to spot Momo as an Idoru, an Anthro-PC, right off the bat? No talking, no vocal cue, no visual cue; her seams covered by clothes. How did he know immediately?
Obviously its not perfect.



Can people be sold on eBay if they misbehave?
People can be sold, though not on e-bay, if they are female (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride-buying)...
And from poor countries.

Slavery violates §4 of the human rights.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 30 Nov 2011, 07:47
Fuck relative morality, we're not living in 1576 anymore. I'm not going to dismiss thousands of years of societal progress just because some asshole living in a hut somewhere still thinks it's fine and dandy to sell off his daughter to an old fat guy.

Oh wow, is that a platinum deluxe straw man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)? It's so lifelike!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 30 Nov 2011, 07:47
im still waiting for the reveal when we learn that Clinton is actually an anthro pc who thinks he's human
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 30 Nov 2011, 07:51
I'm surprised that his hand didn't end up launching into a suborbital trajectory. (Either that or get shocked back to the year 1955 with the "other" Marty...)

+ 1 for bttf reference
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 30 Nov 2011, 08:43
I tend to think of the APC-Human relationship as kind of a step between pet-human and human-human. They are sold in stores like pets, but have more personal rights than pets. Also, wasn't there a comic where they mentioned an AI Equal Rights Amendment?

 It was mentioned, then I do believe quickly dismissed.  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=668)

Try  this one  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1900) instead. Also, the newspost following  this one  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996) seems to sum up Jeph's take on the matter. Up in the air who owns Momo's chassis (Marigold bought it, but as a gift to Momo?) ... But the AI resident in the chassis belongs to Momo because it is
Momo.

Re: The poll: Why can't robots be waffles? What about robot waffles? Imagine the symbiotic relationship between a robot waffle and an AI toaster. And no, not a frakkin' toaster.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 30 Nov 2011, 08:55
If robots could be waffles, would they be delicious?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 30 Nov 2011, 08:58
Uh, all of those things were once considered normal, and those societies considered themselves civilised.

And so were leeches, holes in the head and the belief that a tall man in a carriage pulled the sun across the sky every day. Fuck relative morality, we're not living in 1576 anymore. I'm not going to dismiss thousands of years of societal progress just because some asshole living in a hut somewhere still thinks it's fine and dandy to sell off his daughter to an old fat guy.

I'm pretty sure moral relativism is the philosophy which states there is no objective good. I disagree with it, I think there is an objective good. I'm saying you can't conclude that robots aren't in some way sentient, and don't have feelings, just because people treat them like crap. It makes far more sense to conclude that since they look, act and smell like they have feelings, they have feelings. Western society denies plenty of basic privileges to people every day, it's not just a man-in-a-hut thing.

EDIT: Though I'm not entirely sure how they're meant to be treated since I don't know in what way they're different from humans.

EDIT EDIT: But they're most certainly more than toys!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: khendron on 30 Nov 2011, 10:06
Why is everyone accusing Clinton of being creepy when Hannelore did something quite similar in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028)? Back then it was seen as cute. Or asking it another way, do you think Hanners was being almost as creepy back then as Clinton is now?

I can see Clinton and Marigold hitting it off.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: slydon on 30 Nov 2011, 11:11
The difference is, Hanners and Momo are friends.
Also, Hanners can be very creepy sometimes herself... she has a sample of Marten's blood somewhere.  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 30 Nov 2011, 11:12
...also, that was kind of creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 30 Nov 2011, 11:14
we're not living in 1576 anymore

Did anyone else immediately go look at http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1576
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 30 Nov 2011, 11:15
Yup

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a180/cesariojpn/c08f98d6.jpg)

If your gonna use my trademarked yell, it's YUUUP!

I'm sorry, but have you paid royalties to the Gary Cooper estate?   :-D    ;)


*Sigh*

You'd think Clinton would have learned by now not to mess with anyone associated with Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 30 Nov 2011, 11:27
I like Clinton. There's something about his earnestness, failure to learn American norms for personal space by his age, and belated recognition of his faux pas that's endearing. He just needs to start growing out of it, or his subsequent appearances will get stale. But then it'll be weird that characters keep being wildly off until Marten's group normalizes them.

You have come far young Padma-wan
Wait, what?  
Huh?  Who?
When? Where?
Why? How?
And there you go.
Yup
that shit don't make no sense
C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER
 :psyduck:
Screw your combo breaker, QUOOOOTE TUNNNNELLLL.

I wished there would be some kind of link between personal messages and the message they would refer to because honestly, I totally fail to manage that connection.

What does Jeph's tattoo say in 2066 ?
Good question, we'll have to wait another 55 years to find out !
To what are you referring? Also, dammit, I was gonna make that pun.

And Momo went bankai on Clinton.
Eh, it was barely a shikai, what with the socks still on and the close range.

Robots aren't people.

Setting aside our own world's drastic technical limitations in terms of AI, even in the QC world, if AnthroPCs were considered "people", then there would be quite a few instances where legal action would have been warranted- the very concept of the buying and selling of an AnthroPC, for starters, as we see in this comic where Momo thinks her "owner" wants to get rid of her and bursts into tears. I don't even have to mention the instance after instance of Pintsize being ripped apart, pummeled or dismembered, for some offense or another, with no repercussions to the owner at all.

Are these people or are these pets?
*sighs* We went over this when Momo got her new chassis, stop bringing it up.  So far as we know from the comic, you get an AI through a mutual contract. Either party can break it (which is why Momo was worried, she didn't want to lose her companion). The only purchasing we've seen is of chassis- once for Pintsize, once for Momo. Pintsize clearly has some Mr. Potato qualities to his chassis, and knowing him he probably gets off on being disassembled.

 It's unsettling that there are people who can't envision a setting between fellow human and pet. Sentience isn't exactly binary (in before AI jokes, I mean there's more than 2 options).

Well, that probably was what most of his graduate studies were about. Doing a lot of research on human-APC interactions means he sees a lot of APC's.
He's studying armored personnel carriers?

Uh, all of those things were once considered normal, and those societies considered themselves civilised.

And so were leeches, holes in the head and the belief that a tall man in a carriage pulled the sun across the sky every day. Fuck relative morality, we're not living in 1576 anymore. I'm not going to dismiss thousands of years of societal progress just because some asshole living in a hut somewhere still thinks it's fine and dandy to sell off his daughter to an old fat guy.
Actually, we're using leaches again. They're very effective. And don't bring religions into this, religions can have weird stuff and still be viable. I believe there's one that's rather popular right now that entails eating the body and drinking the blood of their god. And wasn't the carriage itself the sun?

Your society can do stupid, stupid things and still be civilized, by both present and later standards. Matching morality is not required unless you're an imperialist looking for justifications. Romans had an empire built on slave labor, America fails to guarantee basic health care to all (which some already think is immoral and I'm pretty sure will be universally considered so in a 100 years or so.)

Fuck relative morality, we're not living in 1576 anymore. I'm not going to dismiss thousands of years of societal progress just because some asshole living in a hut somewhere still thinks it's fine and dandy to sell off his daughter to an old fat guy.

Oh wow, is that a platinum deluxe straw man (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)? It's so lifelike!
Stop groping him!

Why is everyone accusing Clinton of being creepy when Hannelore did something quite similar in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028)? Back then it was seen as cute. Or asking it another way, do you think Hanners was being almost as creepy back then as Clinton is now?

I can see Clinton and Marigold hitting it off.
Hannelore already knew Momo, so the comparison is not effective.

Oh yay, another massive post full of quote responses, I thought I had kicked the habit.

Why do so many people care about the "while you were posting" message? Reposting it was never interesting (save for during particularly high activity times with 20 posts or something), and now it's just annoying. Somehow, during the the 5-30 minutes you were typing, someone else said something! Shocker! We get it. Stop it. /petpeeve

Warning - while you were reading 33 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.  Well, that's what I get for going to bed partway through typing I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 30 Nov 2011, 11:38
7. Since Jeph has stated that AnthroPCs do have a measure of acknowledged sentience and a modicum of rights in the QC-verse, it is not unreasonable to treat them as "normal" (whatever that word means) people.  For our reality, it is a testament to Jeph's quality of writing that we naturally accept this :roll: .

8. Waffle 'bots &/or Waffle AnthroPCs would be an interesting market item.  Or at least a good Futurama robot gag.  (Waffle 'bot: You can bite my black-iron metal grilled ass! *clamp*)

9. @Throg...  You, and any others, are welcome to make use my posting-style, I do not enforce any of its patents ;) .  Of course, I would not mind any trademark acknowledgements...

10. @snubnose...  I think there would be a lot of difference between some "hurr-hurr" guy in a ratty trenchcoat feeling me up versus a curvy blonde in a red dress feeling me up, both of whom I have never met before or know at all.  The former I would knock down with a good idea of "why," the latter I would knock down with a feeling of "why?" and then do a detail check of my person and belongings.  Paranoid?  I would be, with the latter, even if I were single (again).

11. @khendron...  It was cute with Hanners because that was between friends.  There is a wide difference between Hannelore, who Momo knows well and trusts; and Clinton, who she just met and now has an idea of how creepy he can be as a first impression.  Would you find it non-creepy if some random stranger came up to you, reached into your pocket and started fiddling with your smart-phone because he heard its distinctive ring-tone function?  [Another reason to knock someone down, in my book.  gosh I have been awfully violent with this topic, I need to go to browse Cute Overload or something...]

12. @westrim... The "Warning - [X-number] new replies posted" forum-gag is the semi-current QC-forum meme (this was covered in previous threads).  Me, I embrace the gag as an excuse make up silly &/or random things to say.  [purple monkey dishwasher]
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 30 Nov 2011, 11:41
Warning - while you were reading 33 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.  Well, that's what I get for falling asleep partway through typing I guess.

And I was so disappointed that you made my point so much more articulately than I.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 30 Nov 2011, 12:18
10. @snubnose...  I think there would be a lot of difference between some "hurr-hurr" guy in a ratty trenchcoat feeling me up versus a curvy blonde in a red dress feeling me up, both of whom I have never met before or know at all.  The former I would knock down with a good idea of "why," the latter I would knock down with a feeling of "why?" and then do a detail check of my person and belongings.  Paranoid?  I would be, with the latter, even if I were single (again).

11. @khendron...  It was cute with Hanners because that was between friends.  There is a wide difference between Hannelore, who Momo knows well and trusts; and Clinton, who she just met and now has an idea of how creepy he can be as a first impression.  Would you find it non-creepy if some random stranger came up to you, reached into your pocket and started fiddling with your smart-phone because he heard its distinctive ring-tone function?  [Another reason to knock someone down, in my book.  gosh I have been awfully violent with this topic, I need to go to browse Cute Overload or something...]

12. @westrim... The "Warning - [X-number] new replies posted" forum-gag is the semi-current QC-forum meme (this was covered in previous threads).  Me, I embrace the gag as an excuse make up silly &/or random things to say.[/size]]
I wouldn't have a problem, since I keep nothing on my person- It's all in a zipped up laptop bag that I never lose sight of. So feel away, curvy blonde! Trenchcoat guy, go take a shower before you get near me.

The smartphone isn't in her pocket, it's on her arm, playing sweet jogging music to his ears. Still annoying, but different and less close to the crotch or breasts (if an AnthroPC would care about that).

I've seen it covered in previous threads- even when I don't post, I'm lurking in every WCT. It's not silly or random, like waffles and dickbrooms, it's just a repetition of a standard message with nothing to distinguish it. People are only repeating it because they see it done, not because they're amused that one person posted while they spent 15 minutes typing. It used to only be done when it was genuinely interesting (say, they wrote one sentence and in that time 8 posts happened, or to lampshade how long they spent typing), now it's done no matter the circumstances.

Warning - while you were reading 33 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. Well, that's what I get for falling asleep partway through typing I guess.
And I was so disappointed that you made my point so much more articulately than I.
Eh, around post #175 I had several reply tabs open and half finished, but realized  it was 4 AM and I need to SLEEP dammit, and the 3 hours I had gotten earlier wouldn't cut it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: slydon on 30 Nov 2011, 12:23
Clinton's growing on me. Instead of most of the issues QC characters have that make them so damn endearing, his foot-in-mouth syndrome is much more realistic. (With mostly realistic results)
Everyone can relate to going through periods where you just can't seem to do anything right.

Also, Mariton?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 30 Nov 2011, 12:26
Also, Mariton?
Clintgold.

But they haven't even said one word to each other, so I think we're getting ahead of ourselves.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 30 Nov 2011, 12:45
No portmanteaus, please. 


Just use a slash!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Nov 2011, 12:57
There's a collection of material about what's known of the social and legal status of AnthroPCs (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/AnthroPC) on the wiki.

Pintsize getting punched is like Marten getting punched, not in itself evidence that he's considered property.

Jeph said in that one newspost that AnthroPCs are free to leave their relationships at any time. Of course that's only theoretical if they can't support themselves. Look at the trouble Momo had finding a job. On the other hand, they may still have the option of joining the global meta-AI.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ZBixby on 30 Nov 2011, 14:17
I tend to think of the APC-Human relationship as kind of a step between pet-human and human-human. They are sold in stores like pets, but have more personal rights than pets. Also, wasn't there a comic where they mentioned an AI Equal Rights Amendment?

 It was mentioned, then I do believe quickly dismissed.  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=668)


We can also extract from the archives that it is in fact illegal to sell (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=382) AnthroPCs online, then again how much of that is just Pintsize being a smartass is up to debate as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 30 Nov 2011, 15:46
He will probably be able to recognize any new model chassis, and most of the significant historical ones since the introduction of Antrho-PCs. The same way a car nerd can identify the make/model/year of some exotic European sports car without ever having been in the presence of one.
I imagine that, just as there are glossy car mags in our world, in the QC-verse there are glossy magazines devoted to anthroPC's. Clinton probably has a stack of them in his bathroom...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 30 Nov 2011, 16:03


Jeph said in that one newspost that AnthroPCs are free to leave their relationships at any time. Of course that's only theoretical if they can't support themselves. Look at the trouble Momo had finding a job.

Her job hunting was the same as that of a typical teenager looking for their first job; she had no experience and lacked credentials, limiting the positions  open to her.  Not to mention that we don't know what the economy is like in that area, so we don't really know how many jobs overall are available.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 30 Nov 2011, 16:09
Looking at the Marigold/Momo interaction, (and from a previous poster) I had an insight that the chassis itself might be treated simply as an asset, and the AI itself is separate from that chassis.

This means that that asset could be used as collateral for a loan that the AI itself may not be a party to.

There are a lot of implications of this which I'd love to see Jeph explore and tell us about but I don't want to go too far down this road in the forum for fear that we'd trod on something Jeph's got planned.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Nov 2011, 16:39
we're not living in 1576 anymore

Did anyone else immediately go look at http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1576 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1576)

I MUST ELIMINATE ALL WITNESSES OF MY CRIME
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Latro on 30 Nov 2011, 17:37
"Myomer Elasticity"...

/Battletech Geek
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: iduguphergrave on 30 Nov 2011, 17:51
Re: Comic: I guess now they're just waiting for the other shoe to drop.



I'm not sorry.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 30 Nov 2011, 20:00
Heh heh. Don't be.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 30 Nov 2011, 22:34
Re: Comic: I guess now they're just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I'm not sorry.  8-)
You will be. You... will... be.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wagimawr on 30 Nov 2011, 23:08
Why is everyone accusing Clinton of being creepy when Hannelore did something quite similar in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028)? Back then it was seen as cute. Or asking it another way, do you think Hanners was being almost as creepy back then as Clinton is now?
Actually, if I recall correctly, a fair amount of the posts regarding that comic were openly judging Hannelore for being insensitive/creepy/annoying/etc.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 30 Nov 2011, 23:40
Why is everyone accusing Clinton of being creepy when Hannelore did something quite similar in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2028)? Back then it was seen as cute. Or asking it another way, do you think Hanners was being almost as creepy back then as Clinton is now?
Err ... what ?

You dont understand such a basic law of human interaction ?!?!?!?

Hanners and Marigold KNOW EACH OTHER since quite some time, and they can consider themselves friends. Thus some more intimacy is allowed than with a random foreigner. Even more since they are both women (well, Marigold isnt really, but she considers herself one). Besides, IIRC there have been a lot of people in the forums who still objected.

Marigold hardly knows Clinton at all. He is far from any friend status. And he doesnt only touch her with a single finger (like Hanners), but instantly with both hands and no respect for Marigolds personal sphere at all.

How much intimacy is allowed with a person depends upon your status with that person. Only couples have full access to the others body.



I can see Clinton and Marigold hitting it off.
Now you yourself managed to be creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 01 Dec 2011, 00:05
You mean Momo. Marigold is Momo's owner.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mr. Graves on 01 Dec 2011, 00:38
Honestly, yeah, he's being creepy, but I can't feel too mad at Clinton because he's essentially forced to be the setup for the punchline here. In reality, he wouldn't have gotten halfway through his first sentence before there'd have been a hand pulled away or someone saying something, unless he's some kind of fast-talking ninja. That wouldn't have been nearly as funny for a comic though, so for the sake of humor he gets a little more time before the reaction spikes from disturbed silence to electrocution mode.

Looking back at the previous run, it seems like, again, it's only him being creepy that allows a punchline to exist. Take out the last panels and you essentially have an excitable Hanners'-Dad-Fanboy; the "OH MY GOD CAN I TOUCH YOU" line is pretty creepy, even if he's not intending it that way, but rather than stopping him right then and there, no matter what he has to say afterwards, he's given another nearly-full comic to rant before he then gets thrown out of the apartment as part of the humor delivery of that comic.

Not that this is a bad thing mind you. I'm just saying, it makes it harder for me to hate on Clinton since he's not intentionally malicious, and any unintentional creepiness on his part is essentially allowed to be played out for laughs.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wagimawr on 01 Dec 2011, 01:04
Excellent work, Mr. Graves; you deconstructed and commented on a comic without throwing in a TVTropes link (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlayedForLaughs). :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 01 Dec 2011, 01:06
Honestly, yeah, he's being creepy, but I can't feel too mad at Clinton because he's essentially forced to be the setup for the punchline here. In reality, he wouldn't have gotten halfway through his first sentence before there'd have been a hand pulled away or someone saying something, unless he's some kind of fast-talking ninja. That wouldn't have been nearly as funny for a comic though, so for the sake of humor he gets a little more time before the reaction spikes from disturbed silence to electrocution mode.

Looking back at the previous run, it seems like, again, it's only him being creepy that allows a punchline to exist. Take out the last panels and you essentially have an excitable Hanners'-Dad-Fanboy; the "OH MY GOD CAN I TOUCH YOU" line is pretty creepy, even if he's not intending it that way, but rather than stopping him right then and there, no matter what he has to say afterwards, he's given another nearly-full comic to rant before he then gets thrown out of the apartment as part of the humor delivery of that comic.

Not that this is a bad thing mind you. I'm just saying, it makes it harder for me to hate on Clinton since he's not intentionally malicious, and any unintentional creepiness on his part is essentially allowed to be played out for laughs.
Welcome, eloquent first time poster! Welcome to the forum of Dreams and Wonderment. You can park your broom over there, I'll take your coat, and we have some refreshments available from the service psyducks.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 01 Dec 2011, 01:10
Excellent work, Mr. Graves; you deconstructed and commented on a comic without throwing in a TVTropes link (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlayedForLaughs). :evil:

I see what you did there.  :evil:

Edit:

New comic's up.

And it's deep, man, real deep, like whoa!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 01 Dec 2011, 04:05
I'm with ya, Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 04:05
I do agree that fully-functioning AIs, if we do get them, probably won't all murder us in our sleep. Only about 1% of them.
Less than the percent if human murderers
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 01 Dec 2011, 04:06
I do believe Hanners has a point lol.  And as for Momo's alleged bullying of Pintsize, I think most of us can agree that he had it coming.  I mean, he is no angel (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=402) either...

EDIT: Also, is anyone else disappointed that the fate of Clinton's other shoe is still up in the air, so to speak... :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: VonKleist on 01 Dec 2011, 04:25
I, for one..




..would also like to apply for the post of soupifier-operator.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: WAYF on 01 Dec 2011, 04:39
I've had this theory for a while now, that humans design robots to be as human as possible.
This means that they are NOT one day going to snap and stage a rebellion against human society (unless there's something fundamentally wrong with the way they are treated, and from Momo's comments they do seem to be fairly well treated right now), for the very reason that that's not what a human would do. Sure, there might be some psycho robots (call it an error in their programming), but I think we can safely assume that Hannerdad is a genius, and he wouldn't accidentally construct millions and millions of robots which could accidentally flip into kill all humans mode (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AIIsACrapshoot) at the drop of a hat. I really don't think that that's how it works.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Dec 2011, 04:41
Quote from: Momo
There is still war because we are not all powerful.

... says the sentient, sapient being whose first act upon gaining a new body was to beat the pulp (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2002) out of something smaller and weaker than herself  :psyduck:
She's right, though.  If AIs were all powerful, there wouldn't be war because there would be nobody left to do the fighting.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Border Reiver on 01 Dec 2011, 05:00
Momo seems to have mastered sarcasm, not sure if Marigold's simply playing the straightwoman to the joke, but I'm very sure that Clinton didn't even recognize what's going on.

And Hanners is still drawn to be very cute.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Somebody on 01 Dec 2011, 05:03
"DAMMIT MOMO!" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1975)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Dec 2011, 05:55
I have no idea if this will work...

Just hit play on the page.  It's a short sci-fi story (about 5 minutes) that came to mind while reading today's comic and this thread...

http://www.studio360.org/2011/nov/04/theyre-made-out-of-meat/#
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 06:04
I love they're made out meat great story yay
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Dec 2011, 06:07
Re: The poll: Why can't robots be waffles? What about robot waffles? Imagine the symbiotic relationship between a robot waffle and an AI toaster. And no, not a frakkin' toaster.


This (http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2100/fc02028.htm) took me way too long to find...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Throg on 01 Dec 2011, 06:25
Dunno why, but this was the funniest QC strip in a while.  The utter, utter depths of nerd-dom -- the light touch in filling some of the in-world aspects of the QC universe -- Hanners, for once, as the voice of reason. 

About pairing Clinton/Marigold: They have, at least, the same level of geek-cred -- but I highly doubt Jeph is gonna pair them off. It'd be funny, though: like a Sheldon/Amy vibe from Big Bang Theory, without 90% of the behavioral tics.

...

...

Hmf. Just how did Clinton lose his hand, anyway? It's not in the archives, is it?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Dec 2011, 06:35
I, for one..




..would also like to apply for the post of soupifier-operator.


Good boy. Didn't go "there".
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 07:11
It'd be funny, though: like a Sheldon/Amy vibe from Big Bang Theory, without 90% of the behavioral tics.

i always thought that hanners would pair well with sheldon now i just need to get rid of amy  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Dec 2011, 07:23
<attempted shipping snip>

Hmf. Just how did Clinton lose his hand, anyway? It's not in the archives, is it?

No. We never found out how he lost it - just how his hand actually works.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 07:31
its Twenty Minutes Into The Future (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture)

edit thanks
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Throg on 01 Dec 2011, 07:35
<attempted shipping snip>

Hmf. Just how did Clinton lose his hand, anyway? It's not in the archives, is it?

No. We never found out how he lost it - just how his hand actually works.

Oh, OK.  

BTW I am NOT shipping those two, or anyone. Jeph is a savvy enough writer to let things unfold naturally and in-character: and as it stands now, neither Clinton nor Marigold seem like they'd be able to start a relationship with anyone.


 


Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 01 Dec 2011, 07:38
Also, Clinton is hella gross.

I am not even being sarcastic or anything, just naw. Clinton = NAW.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Dec 2011, 08:19
its http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture)

how do I get it to link it to the words not the url?

You do this:

Code: [Select]
[url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture]Twenty Minutes Into The Future[/url]
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: NotAwesomeAnymore on 01 Dec 2011, 08:52
Hey, I'm really psyched for this fictional minority that exists in the real world! It seems that AIs aren't violently oppressed or dehumanised, yet there are still stereotypes and biases against them. There could be a whole AI rights movement, plus a bunch of people who claim the movement is no longer necessary - all this stuff you see with minorities all the time. Except in this way it can't hit any nerves  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 01 Dec 2011, 09:18
It is a part of the grand (not necessarily limited to) sci-fi tradition of commenting on modern society while appearing to talk about something else.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: suzername on 01 Dec 2011, 09:37
Congratulations Jeff, me and my boyfriend got into an argument over the creepiness of Clinton.

I think this means your characters are way to realistic.

*she says about a sentient computer and a guy with a grope tastic hand*
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: TinPenguin on 01 Dec 2011, 09:40
Momo snarking. Love it. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 10:16
yeah YAY momo
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 01 Dec 2011, 10:26
Congratulations Jeff,

We like to call Jeph by his right name, please, as a matter of politeness.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 01 Dec 2011, 10:28
For a while there I was pondering the idea of becoming both a bio-droid and a soupifier operator, but then I realized that that sounds suspiciously like the bio-droid equivalent of fast food to me.  Let creepy peons like Clinton operate the soup dispensers; I want to be best bio-droid that our robot overlords can make!

Ah, who am I kidding, I'll be lucky to even meet their standards to be made into soup, much less a bio-droid...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 10:45
i'd be a good bio droid i already have the required contempt for humanity down
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Dec 2011, 10:45
I'm not convinced Clinton lost his hand, I'd always assumed he just replaced it with something better because he could.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Dec 2011, 10:56
Well, then it had to go somewhere at some time, unless he was born without. 






Soup, anyone?  Just ignore the fingernails.  I mean, bay leaves. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 01 Dec 2011, 10:57
So, is "Soupify" one of the skills in Skyrim?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Dec 2011, 11:21
@Carl-E - I mean he probably knows where it is, and had it removed willingly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Dec 2011, 11:26
I know, I know.  Funny thing is, most  people who lose an appendage know exactly  where it is, or at least, where it went...

It's the "willingly" part that's different! 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 01 Dec 2011, 12:04
For comic #2069...

1. Art-wise, Hanners' top seems to have lost its front zipper?

2. "Bio-droids" seems to be crossing over more towards manga & anime rather than Terminator & The Matrix to me.  Of course, both medias have their Robot Apocalypse &/or Uprising scenarios :wink: .

3. [Charlton Heston voice]: "It's people!  The soylent tortilla with green chiles soup is made of people!  We've got to stop them somehow!"

4. [Jeph's comic comments]: "I predict that our robot overlords will want nothing whatsoever to do with us. If we ever invent it, the first thing an AI will do is bootstrap itself to omnipotence and then light out for the Kuiper Belt."  I am not certain why, but this reminds me of a CSI: Las Vegas episode ("Shooting Stars") with an alien-worshipping suicide-cult, the lone survivor (& murderer) is talking with Gil Grissom in the denouement of the episode.

 - Abigail Spencer (cultist/murderer): I know they're all up there... happy... healthy... perfect.  [sees Grissom's facial expression] You don't believe we're alone in the universe?

 - Grissom: Abigail... I'm sure if there is something out there looking down on us from somewhere else in the universe, they're wise enough to stay away from us.  [fade to black]
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 01 Dec 2011, 12:04
You'd think Marigold, of all people, would know that that's a road that ends with you naked and tearing your own arms off.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Paranoid on 01 Dec 2011, 12:14
I dunno.  I mean, I wouldn't put it past someone like Clinton to lop off his own hand in favor of a mechanical one, but in comic 1909 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1909) he mentioned how he and others like himself benefited from his inventions, with a specific reference to his hand.  It just seems to me that if he was the sort to lop off his own hand he wouldn't be that aware of how people with legitimate problems would also have a need for cybernetics as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 01 Dec 2011, 12:35
I always figured that it was the replacement of his hand that sparked his (possibly latent) obsession with crossing the line between organic and synthetic life. I hope it's a story we get to learn more about at some stage.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 01 Dec 2011, 13:20
Most definitely true Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 01 Dec 2011, 13:58
1. Art-wise, Hanners' top seems to have lost its front zipper?
Definitely! But zipped or not, she is right on the money.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 01 Dec 2011, 14:00
I'm not convinced Clinton lost his hand, I'd always assumed he just replaced it with something better because he could.
Well, then it had to go somewhere at some time, unless he was born without. 
@Carl-E - I mean he probably knows where it is, and had it removed willingly.
I know, I know.  Funny thing is, most  people who lose an appendage know exactly  where it is, or at least, where it went...

It's the "willingly" part that's different! 
I dunno.  I mean, I wouldn't put it past someone like Clinton to lop off his own hand in favor of a mechanical one, but in comic 1909 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1909) he mentioned how he and others like himself benefited from his inventions, with a specific reference to his hand.  It just seems to me that if he was the sort to lop off his own hand he wouldn't be that aware of how people with legitimate problems would also have a need for cybernetics as well.
I always figured that it was the replacement of his hand that sparked his (possibly latent) obsession with crossing the line between organic and synthetic life. I hope it's a story we get to learn more about at some stage.

I figure he lost his hand the same way he got zapped, being too excited to check things out and touch them- perhaps the latest and greatest flying tree trimmer. It makes me wonder (again) how he got this far with his attitude still in place. Aside for the meta "for comedy" reason, of course.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 14:43
The meta is all
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Tova on 01 Dec 2011, 16:07
"Are you telling me that you could have got out of those cuffs at any time??"
"No! Only when it was funny."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Heliphyneau on 01 Dec 2011, 16:33
Heh, I'm with Hanners on the robo vs. human scariness quotient.   :-D  Not sure Clinton would be a good soupifier operator, though -- he'd get all distracted and cause a souptastrophy, though I suppose the problem would right itself if he fell in.

Also, with all the robot waffle talk, I can't believe no one else posted this:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/KathiJ/wafflebot-getbaked.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 01 Dec 2011, 18:03
Maybe Clinton is an anthro PC! Created to be a perfect simulacrum of a nerdy human being, and as a safety measure they made one of his hands really obviously robotic so people's attention would be drawn from any subtler imperfections! A tin can hitman, try to catch him if you can, secret robo-agent with a secret robo-plan!!!

No...  I suspect Hanners is the AnthroPC.    :)     

As Lore was too perfect,  Dr. Soong created Data with all his myriad quirks, hangups, stumbling blocks and limitations.

Hannermom paid Hannerdad to create a synthetic daughter... for whatever reason.  Perhaps she cannot have children due to a medical issue.     

Think about it...  Hanners does have some intresting android-like abilities...  Her love of counting, her ability to audit thousands of files in mere hours/days...   

Yeah it fits, but I doubt Jeph is going in that direction storywise. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 18:20
Maybe Clinton is an anthro PC! Created to be a perfect simulacrum of a nerdy human being, and as a safety measure they made one of his hands really obviously robotic so people's attention would be drawn from any subtler imperfections! A tin can hitman, try to catch him if you can, secret robo-agent with a secret robo-plan!!!

im still waiting for the reveal when we learn that Clinton is actually an anthro pc who thinks he's human

I called it
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Dec 2011, 18:37
Momo snarking. Love it. :-D

"You're not allowed to hang out with Pintsize anymore." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1651)

I always figured that it was the replacement of his hand that sparked his (possibly latent) obsession with crossing the line between organic and synthetic life. I hope it's a story we get to learn more about at some stage.

It all depends on how well thought out Jeph made his character. If he thought, "one-off creepy-stalker fanboi of Hannerdad" and nothing more, then he might have to "grow" the character like he did with Hanners.

Also: I don't think Clinton is an AnthroPC - but his hand is. Maybe it's not completely sentient like Pintsize & Momo, but it gives him a "connection" to the global AI mind.

Of course, I don't know if there's anyone who'd want to have an AnthroPC "attached" to them - literally.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 01 Dec 2011, 19:01
Just noticed something. Don't know if it's significant or not. The last comic where Momo spoke was http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2037 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2037), and Jeph was using her own unique font. In today's comic her words are written in the same font as everyone else's. Oversight?  :?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 19:06
I wouldn't mind momo attached to me nudge nudge wink wink say no more
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Dec 2011, 19:30
Just noticed something. Don't know if it's significant or not. The last comic where Momo spoke was http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2037 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2037), and Jeph was using her own unique font. In today's comic her words are written in the same font as everyone else's. Oversight?  :?

"I'll take 'Oversight' for $250, Alex."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Dec 2011, 19:46
She'd just been overheated...

Since she's gotten the larger chassis, her voice is more human.  When she was smaller, it was... different.  Tinnier, perhaps?  

Looking back, the main difference was the shape of the bubbles, and that her font is slightly more upright than that of the humans.  

I called it

You don't get to call something until it actually happens...

I wouldn't mind momo attached to me nudge nudge wink wink say no more

Don't go there.  

Please.  



She has defenses, you know.  
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 20:03
Well I thought of it and wrote it here first :p

And she probably doesn't have genitalia and wouldn't want to hang out with me anyways  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 01 Dec 2011, 20:05
Whoa, I check in and everything's fine an hour ago, then I check in now and we've taken a swerve to creepyville. There are way better ways to express your robosexuality, Yarin.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 01 Dec 2011, 20:12
I have a house in creepyvile where I live year round and it's not just robots monsters aliens ghosts as long as its female sentient and legal age I'm game
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 01 Dec 2011, 20:30
I have a house in creepyvile where I live year round and it's not just robots monsters aliens ghosts as long as its female sentient and legal age I'm game
You missed the point. I don't care what you're into, just don't say you're into it in a way that makes the mental image of a guy in a trenchcoat with one hand in his pocket leering at spring breakers.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 01 Dec 2011, 20:39
She'd just bee overheated...

Since she's gotten the larger chassis, her voice is that of a human.  When she was smaller, it was... different.  Tinnier, perhaps?  


Not at all. In all the strips from her introduction, through getting her new chassis, until this one, her voice (font) has remained the same. The three Anthro PCs in the comic each have their own unique font. It's always been this way. So, was this an oversight on Jeph's part, or is Momo now, like Pinnochio, becoming a real girl?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 01 Dec 2011, 21:42
You're absolutely right.  Although Momo's font was the closest to the human font of the three robots.  In fact, it wasn't until going back that I noticed the difference. 

However, the word bubbles did  change, but looking back it was not with her new chassis, but right before that.  Her last speech bubble that's square is in 1921 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1921), a robo gag strip, and before that in 1852 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1852), interacting with Angus.  But in 1994 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1994), right before the new chassis arc, her speech bubbles go round.  Although the toaster in 1999 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) has a square bubble. 

So, Jeph was already prepping her to be more human. 


Or yeah, the oversight thing.  But the toaster... I dunno. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 01 Dec 2011, 21:50
So, is "Soupify" one of the skills in Skyrim?

I'm thinking more rendering plant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendering_plant) type of deals.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Overkillengine on 01 Dec 2011, 22:42
Wow and I thought I was pushing it with a joke about hot apple pie last week.


Anyways, I just wanted to say how neat it is that Jeph is so consistent with his art and lettering that a change in font for a character provokes a discussion. And by that I mean a genuine one, not nerd raging about how any change at all is bad and it is sodomizing our childhoods with fire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Dec 2011, 22:55
He's talked before about deliberately choosing fonts for the AnthroPC characters.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 01 Dec 2011, 23:35
Quote
People are indeed far worse than anything they create
Somehow I cant see myself or others being as bad as a nuclear bomb ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 02 Dec 2011, 00:16
Quote
People are indeed far worse than anything they create
Somehow I cant see myself or others being as bad as a nuclear bomb ...
Nuclear bombs were created by people, and don't go off by themselves... If you throw a stone at someone and injure them, it is not the stone that is bad.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 02 Dec 2011, 00:36
Also, Clinton is hella gross.

I am not even being sarcastic or anything, just naw. Clinton = NAW.
I think I actually hate Clinton. I don't know why. Maybe its his face?

Quote
People are indeed far worse than anything they create
Somehow I cant see myself or others being as bad as a nuclear bomb ...
Nuclear bombs were created by people, and don't go off by themselves... If you throw a stone at someone and injure them, it is not the stone that is bad.
Hah... I would love to have this kind of conversation with a certain Thane Krios of Mass Effect 2 fame. Sorry for the nerd-insider, anyone who gets it might be tickled, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 02 Dec 2011, 00:53
You missed the point. I don't care what you're into, just don't say you're into it in a way that makes the mental image of a guy in a trenchcoat with one hand in his pocket leering at spring breakers.

Exactly.

Where is the "Don't Be That Guy" comic when you need it... :P
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Dec 2011, 00:56
I have a house in creepyvile

This forum is not that house.  Please read the rules, and also the sticky thread Conduct in this forum (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25614.0.html) for hints on how not to behave here.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 02 Dec 2011, 00:58
Sorry I'll be good this is what happens when I try to be funny  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 02 Dec 2011, 01:30

4. [Jeph's comic comments]: "I predict that our robot overlords will want nothing whatsoever to do with us. If we ever invent it, the first thing an AI will do is bootstrap itself to omnipotence and then light out for the Kuiper Belt."  I am not certain why, but this reminds me of a CSI: Las Vegas episode ("Shooting Stars") with an alien-worshipping suicide-cult, the lone survivor (& murderer) is talking with Gil Grissom in the denouement of the episode.

 - Abigail Spencer (cultist/murderer): I know they're all up there... happy... healthy... perfect.  [sees Grissom's facial expression] You don't believe we're alone in the universe?

 - Grissom: Abigail... I'm sure if there is something out there looking down on us from somewhere else in the universe, they're wise enough to stay away from us.  [fade to black]

I've always found the Grissom position there a bit silly. Oh, yes, "what a fearful beast is Man" (is that a trope? it probably has a different name. Don't link it. No. Stop that), sobering look at ourselves as a species that's committed hideous atrocities, blah blah.

But what one forgets is that we are, to date, the only species to possess or at least enumerate a "code of ethics", and that many of the most heinous behaviors we engage in (e.g. infanticide) are evolutionarily advantageous!

The horror will be, I think, when we encounter other sapients, that they won't be aloof, superior, moral beings, even if they pretend to be. They'll be as flawed and morally degraded as humankind.

That, too, will be the ultimate danger of A.I.: not that they'll be born thinking they're superior, but that we'll teach them to be just like us.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 02 Dec 2011, 01:32
Reminds me of the old anti-drug PSA...

"From you alright! I learned by watching you!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Dec 2011, 01:43
It's just occurred to me that Jeph hasn't applied his new hair-texturing technique to Momo, so her hair now looks appropriately artificial in comparison with the human characters.

And the new strip is just weird...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 02 Dec 2011, 01:47
To be fair, there weren't that many e-mail accounts for Gary to send to on 1/1/1997.

At least not in our world. In QC world they may have developed the internet in 1965.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Dec 2011, 01:50
Not that few either - I'd had Internet email for five years by then, and I'd had email in a proprietary company system from the mid-80s.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 02 Dec 2011, 01:52
And the new strip is just weird...

I don't know if it's coincidental or not, but a certain sci-fi program back in the sixties actually did posit that there was a secret group of "supervisors" watching mankind omnisciently, making sure we didn't annihilate ourselves.  And the particular individual in that show was actually named Gary... I mean, sure, they weren't AI, exactly... but still...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 02 Dec 2011, 01:54
Hahhahahahahhaa Hanners looks totally DERP in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Dec 2011, 01:55
"supervisors" watching mankind omnisciently,

Gary Seven (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gary_Seven)

I presume it is not a coincidence.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 02 Dec 2011, 01:57
"supervisors" watching mankind omnisciently,

Gary Seven (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gary_Seven)

Yep, he's the one! It seems too on-the-nose to simply be a case of random Garys...

Garies?

Gari, maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 02 Dec 2011, 02:00
Quote from: Jeph
THY GARY COME, THY GARY BE DONE, ON EARTH AS IT IS IN GARY

Give us this day our daily email, and forgive us our trespasses, as we continue to make stuff for you to watch over
And lead us not into the soupifier, but deliver us from Pintsize
For thine is the Internet, and the email, and the Gary, forever and ever
In nomine Gary et Gary et tu Gary Sancti, Amen.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 02 Dec 2011, 02:08
Also, maybe it's just me, but does it seem like Momo's become a bit of a grumpy-gills since upgrading her chassis?

She's  seemed happy enough for the most part.  (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2026) I mean, some of the situations she was in since she got the chassis would make anyone uncomfortable, like the prospect of spending time in a dishwasher or being tossed large amounts of Victorian Porn.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Yarin on 02 Dec 2011, 02:08
Garry 7 that's great love star trek
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 02 Dec 2011, 02:17
"Gary" is, for me, that bitchy Nosferatu from "Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines" ...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 02 Dec 2011, 02:30
Augh! I just figured out what it is about Clinton that irks me! Swept back red hair, huge glasses, loves technology, has a robot that he usually controls but can also act independently, creepily obsessive around females; Clinton is Coleman Stryker! I hate that guy!

fffffffffFFFFFFF CANNOT UNSEE ARGH

At least Clinton hasn't ordered a horrible religious pogrom and then been told by basically everyone  that it's okay because he's sorry he did that and well the religion he was persecuting is too awful to exist anyhow. >:(

(not a bitter Protectorate of Menoth fan at all. nooooope.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Soulsynger on 02 Dec 2011, 02:39
Boring strip is kinda boring. Making up some internet phenomenon without ties to the real world and then basing simple conversation around it? No real punchline, too.
I know Jeph does not exist just to please me, but somehow this week held nothing remarkable for me...

Maybe I'm still caught in the spin of the last few weeks' storylines. *sigh*
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Arancaytar on 02 Dec 2011, 02:46
I've always found the Grissom position there a bit silly. Oh, yes, "what a fearful beast is Man" (is that a trope? it probably has a different name. Don't link it. No. Stop that)

That's at least six tropes. Humans Are Bastards, Humans Are Warriors, Humans Are Cthulhu, Humanity Is Insane, Humans Kill Wantonly and Hobbes Was Right.

(See how I didn't link.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: TheoGB on 02 Dec 2011, 03:03
Is 'gary' only a euphemism for the anus in the UK?

(Gary Glitter rhymes with 'shitter'.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Dec 2011, 03:13
Not widespread even here, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 02 Dec 2011, 03:35
... Kirk? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1829)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: gopher on 02 Dec 2011, 03:45
Is 'gary' only a euphemism for the anus in the UK?

(Gary Glitter rhymes with 'shitter'.)

I think it is quite an uncommon term even here, and I would only notice it in he correct context.
"My piles are killing me, I have to put this thing up my gary"
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Dec 2011, 04:14
Momo's font is back in 2070, and has been fixed in 2069. 

Hanner's zipper is back, too, but remains missing yesterday. 

[/geek]
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Rimwolf on 02 Dec 2011, 04:45
Gary seems a popular AI name: http://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=698
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: LTK on 02 Dec 2011, 04:46
Is Marigold walking next to Clinton in the last panel? Because she seems to have increased 50% in size. From that, you'd say she's walking in the foreground, but it doesn't look that way.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 02 Dec 2011, 04:49
Is Marigold walking next to Clinton in the last panel? Because she seems to have increased 50% in size. From that, you'd say she's walking in the foreground, but it doesn't look that way.

You aren't the only one to notice it (2069 had some shrinkage and enlargement issues as well), but I wasn't going to point it out or anything...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Dust on 02 Dec 2011, 05:01
I felt a little rejected for a second, since I never got a Gary e-mail back then. Then I woke up a little and realised it was only a QC-Verse event.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DrPhibes on 02 Dec 2011, 05:57
Cleanliness is next to Garyness.

Seems like something Gary Oak would do?

Marigold is waling in front of the others. but the arm isn't overshadowing clintons arm. Which makes it only seem bigger and weird.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 02 Dec 2011, 06:12
Clinton looks pasty white in some of those panels. Shadows don't even look right. He's gotta be a vampire or something.



Either that or he works third shift...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: ChaosWolf on 02 Dec 2011, 06:30
I felt a little rejected for a second, since I never got a Gary e-mail back then. Then I woke up a little and realised it was only a QC-Verse event.

Were you disappointed too?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 02 Dec 2011, 06:32
I felt a little rejected for a second, since I never got a Gary e-mail back then. Then I woke up a little and realised it was only a QC-Verse event.

So, how many folks went to Google to see if the Gary email was real?  I dd,, just in case I somehow missed some weirdness in 1997.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 02 Dec 2011, 06:51
I didnt needed to google that. :D

I am one of the few people who already had email back in 1997, but I never got any such email.

First big email attack was IIRC the ILOVEYOU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILOVEYOU) back in 2000.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 02 Dec 2011, 06:54
Might have been a  drunken hallucination.  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=721)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Dec 2011, 07:54
First big email attack was IIRC the ILOVEYOU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ILOVEYOU) back in 2000.

That got into the office I was responsible for at the time, and we all laughed at the vain girl who was the one to open it.  We had changed from monthly anti-virus updates to daily (I think), but this moved too fast for such a slow response to counter.  My present system checks for updates every five minutes and uses heuristic techniques to block many as yet unknown threats.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 02 Dec 2011, 08:01
First thoughts on Friday's strip:  Holy cow, that is a lot of text.
Second thoughts: Wait, it was every email account, but also every computer (including those with no internet access) and it wasn't an email at all but text wrapped in weird data.  Was it sent via the power grid? :psyduck:
Third: Why do I find the AI/singularity strips completely terrifying and completely uninteresting at the same time?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wreck Smurfy on 02 Dec 2011, 08:21
Momo's font is back in 2070, and has been fixed in 2069.  

[/geek]

So I see. Well, my work here is done.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: FunkyTuba on 02 Dec 2011, 09:07
I like today's strip, Hanners has the punchline, it's pretty good. We get to see a bit more about how different the QC world is.

Clinton is growing on me: he combines a developable character with a natural source of exposition. Of Jeph's ideas.



Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: cesariojpn on 02 Dec 2011, 09:28
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/newsfeed/000/176/153/tumblr_lrp3oeSPUZ1r0oa3lo1_500.gif)

Momo, I am shocked you didn't make a (Motherfucking) Pokemon reference!! (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gary-oak)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mithrandir on 02 Dec 2011, 09:36
Also, maybe it's just me, but does it seem like Momo's become a bit of a grumpy-gills since upgrading her chassis? Someone said earlier (can't find it for some reason) that the relationship between a human and an anthro PC is somewhere between human/human and human/pet, but to me it seems a lot closer to parent/teenager.

Well, yeah, that's the problem indeed, cause in this case it's hard to tell which one's the teenager.  :?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2011, 09:41
the mental image of a guy in a trenchcoat with one hand in his pocket leering at spring breakers.
See, I approve of the general message, but see, I didn't have that mental image until you put it there >_<

As for Gary:

(http://www.vgcats.com/super/images/080428.gif)

Although, I'll admit, my first thought for Gary was

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/14/Gary_the_snail.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: haikupoet on 02 Dec 2011, 10:39
There have been a couple of weird-ass mass emails that have gone out, like the Eternal Ambition spam and the crazy guy who was looking for time machine parts, so people would probably have assumed "Gary" was one of those (like Marigold did -- btw, how old was she in 1997? Had to be, what, middle school anyway...)

Of course, QC exists in the same universe as Diesel Sweeties and the Walkyverse, so for all we know Torpor or an Ultra Car prototype sent it out :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 02 Dec 2011, 10:42
I dunno.  I mean, I wouldn't put it past someone like Clinton to lop off his own hand in favor of a mechanical one, but in comic 1909 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1909) he mentioned how he and others like himself benefited from his inventions, with a specific reference to his hand.  It just seems to me that if he was the sort to lop off his own hand he wouldn't be that aware of how people with legitimate problems would also have a need for cybernetics as well.

Whether or not that was a response to my comment, I now have it in my head that Clinton tore his hand off trying to peel the lid off a tank.

...or possibly a soda.  He looks like kind of a wimp.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: idontunderstand on 02 Dec 2011, 10:46
I'd SO worship a Gary.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Dust on 02 Dec 2011, 12:00
Might have been a  drunken hallucination.  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=721)

A booze-powered Pterodactyl entity that roams the Internet for victims.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2011, 12:11
(like Marigold did -- btw, how old was she in 1997? Had to be, what, middle school anyway...)
Yeah, I was also curious about that.  I took Marigold as the same age as the gang (mid to late 20s), so middle school sounds right.  That being said, it could be as early as 2006 or so in comic time, so that would make it high school or even early college.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: LoveJaneAusten on 02 Dec 2011, 12:24
Anyways, I just wanted to say how neat it is that Jeph is so consistent with his art and lettering that a change in font for a character provokes a discussion. And by that I mean a genuine one, not nerd raging about how any change at all is bad and it is sodomizing our childhoods with fire.

On a recent tumblr update, Jeph himself admitted that he is very inconsistent in his drawing. That's why characters' faces and body shapes often look different from panel to panel. Fonts are way easier to be consistent with than art.

edit - whoa the whole post was eaten by the quote box!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 02 Dec 2011, 12:26
I was thinking more along the lines of this Gary

(http://ology.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/post-image/gary-busey.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pendrake on 02 Dec 2011, 13:00
For comic #2070...

1. Hanners' front zipper has returned!  Looks much better!  Thank you continuity wizards! (& Jeph :-D )

2. It appears Clinton has been fast-tracked to being added to the QC-cast, as he is already strolling beside three of the fan-popular characters.  As I posted earlier, Jeph put too much effort into creating him to make him a toss-away idea.  I do hope to see Clinton and Marten's creepy hairdresser girl meet though...that should be an interesting strip.

3. Hannelore's face in the punchline panel just looks so weird, but funny :-) .

4. [Don LaFontaine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QPMvj_xejg) voice]: In world where the content is questionable, where little tiny robots can grow up, and "shipping" means more than just costing handling...  comes 2012's spring-time feel-good comedy, when cyber-to-human relations become mixed up with a triple dose of deus-ex-machina...

Gary Almighty

Starring Gary Oldman as human Gary, ("You can't digitize everyone's consciousness into a single network...where would we put our shoes?")

Gary Busey as AnthroPC Gary, ("Don't worry. I'll keep an eye on your st- aw hell it's on fire already...")

Gary Sinese as Gary the big fluffy dog, (*comforting paw on human-Gary's shoulder in the rain* "Sometimes, to best be god, you need to be dog.")

and Morgan Freeman as God.

This time, it's a trinity of comedy!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Dec 2011, 13:04
Where's my tin-foil hat?

I've got it right under mine. 


In case one falls off. 


KTHXBYE!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 02 Dec 2011, 14:01
Quote
A booze-powered Pterodactyl entity that roams the Internet for victims.  :psyduck:

(http://brandonbird.com/brandonbird_pterodactylus.jpg)
All credit to the amazing Brandon Bird http://brandonbird.com/
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Loki on 02 Dec 2011, 14:01
Of course, you do know that tinfoil hats actually help the government to focus their mind-altering rays on the relevant parts of your brain, right? Because they are redirected into one spot, like those parabola mirrors people use for tanning. The notion that tinfoil would deflect the damn things is a lie spread by the government.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2011, 14:24
Dora was 26 when she first started dating Marten, which means she's 27 or 28 now.  There's no way Hanners and Marigold are that young, though.  It seems that Marigold and Angus became roommates a couple years after graduating, since they knew of each other while they were at school (but Marigold didn't know that Angus knew who she was).

So if Dora's 28 now, that makes Sven 29, Marten/Faye/Angus etc. are probably 26.  I'm guessing Wil is also 29, since he's Sven's friend.  Besides Dora mentioning that she was 26 early on, are there any canonical sources off age?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 02 Dec 2011, 14:29
Gary is now my go-to alternate term for Bob.

Is 'gary' only a euphemism for the anus in the UK?

(Gary Glitter rhymes with 'shitter'.)
Is it me, or is English slang heavily weighted different terms for ass related things?

I think it is quite an uncommon term even here, and I would only notice it in he correct context.
"My piles are killing me, I have to put this thing up my gary"
Only in England do people get piles often enough to know what piles are. (Note to others: inflamed hemorrhoids, and it's not a regional term.)

Of course, QC exists in the same universe as Diesel Sweeties and the Walkyverse, so for all we know Torpor or an Ultra Car prototype sent it out :-)
It does? When did we learn this?

Whether or not that was a response to my comment, I now have it in my head that Clinton tore his hand off trying to peel the lid off a tank.

...or possibly a soda.  He looks like kind of a wimp.
But she was already fully cyberized due to a plane crash, so it's not quite a 1-1 comparison.

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 02 Dec 2011, 14:32
Faye and Hannelore were celebrating Hanners' 22nd, when the karaoke war happened. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1069)

Sven was 28  when he learned about Faye and Angus, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1782) so Dora must have been 27 at that time.


Dammit. Now I am stuck with this bandicoot rating for who know how many posts. I HATE RANDY.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 02 Dec 2011, 14:52
Dammit. Now I am stuck with this bandicoot rating for who know how many posts. I HATE RANDY.
Well there are two solutions. One is to go back to all your old posts and delete them. The other is to madly spam every area of the forums.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 Dec 2011, 15:11
Or maybe all the AIs start their lives floating around a massive mainframe like tadpoles and then get put into their first chassis depending on how their personality develops

That's pretty much what Jeph said happens. They choose for themselves what to do when they're decanted into the physical world. Most, for unknown reasons, go for being a companion to a human. Logically, they shouldn't be able to choose their own first chassis since they wouldn't have any money to pay for it.

The adoption fees must be pretty low, if Marten was able to afford them.

Ooh, or maybe adoption fees depend on the quality of the AI personality! Pintsize then would be the Yugo of AIs.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Mr_Rose on 02 Dec 2011, 15:15
If you think of the AI placement agent like a dating service, yeah the fees could be pretty low. Or ridiculously high. Maybe there are even free agencies? I guess that would depend on how many groups are 'seeding' AIs for commercial distribution and whether they are competitive or not.
Or perhaps some manufacturers (e.g Dell) include a placement service with hardware purchase, to make themselves a "one-stop shop" as it were.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: LoveJaneAusten on 02 Dec 2011, 18:37
I don't care how techy Marigold is supposed to be, no one remembers an email they thought was spam from more than a decade ago. What the hell.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 02 Dec 2011, 20:07
I don't care how techy Marigold is supposed to be, no one remembers an email they thought was spam from more than a decade ago. What the hell.
They do when they turn on the news later that day and there's coverage of said email going to everyone in the world, and everyone talks about it until something else catches their attention. Marigold is already familiar with Gary, having lived through it- Momo isn't.


Thought: Hannelore is college age and both of her parents are highly educated people, so why has there been no mention of what happened to her in that department?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 02 Dec 2011, 20:14
Hannelore is Gary...



...or maybe her parents didn't obsess about the internet in 1997.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: westrim on 02 Dec 2011, 20:58
Hannelore is Gary...

...or maybe her parents didn't obsess about the internet in 1997.

The college department, not the Gary department.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 02 Dec 2011, 21:14
Hannelore said in-strip she went through college, but Jeph said -- somewhere in his Tumblr, I think-- she didn't.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 02 Dec 2011, 21:25
Hmmm, perhaps what she thinks was her college stint actually took place in a virtual reality program cooked up by her dad, and her mom bought her a college degree.  I'm sure some college would give Hannelore a degree if her mom shoved a spare million or two their way.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 02 Dec 2011, 21:27
Hannelore has also said she didn't – in http://www.formspring.me/hanneloreEC?_escaped_fragment_=start%3D1916610313#!start=1916610313 though, and not in the comic – which prompted at least one question on Tumblr.

... let's see ... http://jephjacques.com/post/11265563239/qa-dump-09

Quote from: Jeph
She was joking, obviously. I would never, ever accidentally contradict myself.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2011, 22:52
Thought: Hannelore is college age and both of her parents are highly educated people, so why has there been no mention of what happened to her in that department?
I'm assuming she got her entire education on the space station.  Also, it's weird that Hanners and Marigold are younger than me (I was 19 when I started reading, and I'm 24 now).  So yeah, using 1069, Hanners is either 22 or 23 now, depending on time skips, I think it could've been a year since then.

So canonical ages are Hanners at 22/23, Sven at 28/29 and Assbutt Dora at 27/28.  Anything for Marten, Faye, Angus or Marigold?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Wagimawr on 02 Dec 2011, 23:41
I don't care how techy Marigold is supposed to be, no one remembers an email they thought was spam from more than a decade ago. What the hell.

I thought that was a very subtle but very funny joke; that Marigold is SUCH an internet addict that she remembers crap like that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 03 Dec 2011, 01:11
I don't care how techy Marigold is supposed to be, no one remembers an email they thought was spam from more than a decade ago.

Wrong.  Back then spam was still only a minor irritation, and for some people receiving one at all might be a somewhat notable event.  And remembering inconsequential oddments is a common enough thing to do anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: jwhouk on 03 Dec 2011, 01:40
Mr. Hodges is right. I remember the "I LOVE YOU" virus (Written in Microsoft VBS code - eetch), which was kinda scary because it was one of the first ones that could sort-of affect both PC's and Macs. (The VBS code could be run on Macs that had Office software installed.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 03 Dec 2011, 09:54
I don't care how techy Marigold is supposed to be, no one remembers an email they thought was spam from more than a decade ago.

Wrong.  Back then spam was still only a minor irritation, and for some people receiving one at all might be a somewhat notable event.  And remembering inconsequential oddments is a common enough thing to do anyway.

In '97?  Maybe in '94, but not in '97.  I was scrolling through much more spam back then than I do today; pretty much everything I know about sex other than the basic mechanics comes from spam I read in the nineties.

My guess would be Marigold remembers because she heard about it within a few days.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Dec 2011, 10:10
Was there actually more spam back then, or did it just seem that way because there were no good filters yet?
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 03 Dec 2011, 10:16
The latter, I'm sure... or at least, if there is less spam, it's because a lot of them have just given up, although I do think there was a definite drop around '02-'03, and I don't think I actually installed a spam filter until '04.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Sidhekin on 03 Dec 2011, 10:44
I think filters came first.  Both filtering amongst ISPs (quickly adopted) and for end-users (perhaps earlier, I'm not sure, but more slowly adopted).

Then followed the drop.

Of course, much of this drop is due to spammers finding targets other than e-mail.  Web forums of various kinds ... even wikis ... and recently Facebook, Twitter, G+ ...

I think I first received spam and/or attack email back in 1994.  By 1997, I had at least four different e-mail accounts, about as many aliases, and I had left behind at least two accounts (moved on).

The only reason I even vaguely remember ILOVEYOU &c was there was talk about them.  I didn't read any of them.  If there'd been a Gary-mail, I'm sure it would have been a notorious subject – even without the spreading to offline machines.  The contents would not even matter: Any geek would remember the event.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: pwhodges on 03 Dec 2011, 10:45
I run spam filters on servers (work and home), and the proportion of mail that gets blocked is still around 50%.  It's hard to quantify precisely, because some is blocked at the point of identifying the IP address of the connecting server and dropping the connection with no message being transmitted at all, while some is only recognised by analysis of the message contents; and of course some will retry and others not.

I wrote a spam filter for use at work for the first time in about 1999; up till then, the anti-virus mail scanner I ran caught a reasonable proportion of the spam anyway (as transmitting viruses was a significant part of its reason for being sent).

The spam filter for this forum blocks an attempt to sign up by a known spammer roughly five times every hour.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Akima on 03 Dec 2011, 14:20
I run spam filters on servers (work and home), and the proportion of mail that gets blocked is still around 50%.
Me too, and yes, easily. There is some evidence that overall spam volume has been falling over the past year, but there is still a lot of it about.

Yay! Hanners gets her zipper back! You know, I must be thick or something, but it's only just dawned on me how tall Hanners is. I don't have time for an archive trawl, but she's at least as tall as Marten (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2054). And what's wrong with the name Gary anyway?

Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Kugai on 03 Dec 2011, 15:44
I think part of the dropoff in Spam comes fact that some of it may be someone trying what they think is a 'Hot, New Idea' - only to find it thoroughly blocked because someone tried that 10 or so years ago and everybody is protected against it or spots it for what it is.

I also think a lot more people Online are a lot more savvy about it these days than they were back when the 'Net was virtually a Wild West.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 03 Dec 2011, 19:32
Y'all got me to thinkin', it has been a while since I got wind of any Nigerian investment opportunities.
I do remember part of one particularly obnoxious bit of spam from the mid 90s, though (I was on AOL then; don't judge ...) Don't remember what the fellow wanted me to buy, but the spam contained the words: "And if you're thinking of asking to be taken off my mailing list, sorry, no can do. Welcome to the new world of free speech!" Never heard from him again, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Dec 2011, 23:54
"Pardon me, my friend, but I am Nigeran royaltie, and I need you to send me money!  Please ignore the fact that I can't spell 'Nigerian'...or 'royalty'." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnoUNwFOkE)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Dec 2011, 00:18
IIRC, there was an actual Nigerian fellow behind a large amount of that spam. 

He was finally caught. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Near Lurker on 04 Dec 2011, 12:10
Yay! Hanners gets her zipper back! You know, I must be thick or something, but it's only just dawned on me how tall Hanners is. I don't have time for an archive trawl, but she's at least as tall as Marten (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2054). And what's wrong with the name Gary anyway?

She's tall, but not that tall; she's wearing platform shoes, I think.  She's a little shorter than Marten in the strips where they first meet, although still taller than Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Dec 2011, 12:33
Jeph gave definitive word once on the relative heights of the characters, but his answers are scattered over so many places that are hard to search that I shrink from looking.

Oh, so just Google the entire world:
Quote from: Jeph
    How tall is Hannelore?

Taller than Faye, about the same height as Marten, shorter than Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: soonerdog on 04 Dec 2011, 15:47
from QA Dump #14

"I used to think she was the same height as Marten, but lately I feel like she might be a teensy bit taller than him. She’s gangly."
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: rje on 04 Dec 2011, 17:17
I think part of the dropoff in Spam comes fact that some of it may be someone trying what they think is a 'Hot, New Idea' - only to find it thoroughly blocked because someone tried that 10 or so years ago and everybody is protected against it or spots it for what it is.

I also think a lot more people Online are a lot more savvy about it these days than they were back when the 'Net was virtually a Wild West.

Is it weird I kind of miss those days? Everything was all exciting and new and everybody was making godawful geocities pages with animated gif dividers and pages of shitty poetry and all the photos they could cram on a page (entitled gallery 1, gallery 2) and guestbooks. Everybody had guestbooks.  I can't even remember the last time I've seen a guestbook. It was like we were all stumbling around in the dark but we were together goddammit.

(I speak as a layperson with no real computer knowledge who was in high school when AOL was a relatively affordable internet connection - I'm sure many here were doing more amazing things but for me it was all shiny and fantastical lol. DIAL UP.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: akronnick on 04 Dec 2011, 17:40
Is it weird I kind of miss those days? Everything was all exciting and new and everybody was making godawful geocities pages with animated gif dividers and pages of shitty poetry and all the photos they could cram on a page (entitled gallery 1, gallery 2) and guestbooks. Everybody had guestbooks.  I can't even remember the last time I've seen a guestbook. It was like we were all stumbling around in the dark but we were together goddammit.

(I speak as a layperson with no real computer knowledge who was in high school when AOL was a relatively affordable internet connection - I'm sure many here were doing more amazing things but for me it was all shiny and fantastical lol. DIAL UP.)

...Men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Dec 2011, 17:51
Ancient porn; slightly NSFW

(click to show/hide)

You have no idea  how many of these got printed on the university lab's line printer...

We're talking late 70's, early 80's.  Those  were the days...

[Changed to a link by moderator. The spoiler tag was Carl-E's idea]
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 04 Dec 2011, 18:02
My ma still has a file folder of office humor mimeographed and passed around during her days as an office girl in the 1950s.
Good heavens, Ma ...!
Internet's just a newer medium, folks.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 04 Dec 2011, 20:29
As far as Hannelore's height goes I would imagine she slouches a lot given her less than confident personality.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: Skewbrow on 04 Dec 2011, 23:20
Dammit. Now I am stuck with this bandicoot rating for who know how many posts. I HATE RANDY.
Well there are two solutions. One is to go back to all your old posts and delete them. The other is to madly spam every area of the forums.

Hey! A psychopath in a hockey mask! A marked improvement!
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 05 Dec 2011, 03:20
With that hockey mask on, no one will know you're a bandicoot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: snubnose on 05 Dec 2011, 03:30
I'm surprised, I was sure Jeph would fix Marigold in the last panel of #2070 (she's not in perspective and thus suddenly a Hulk) ... !
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: AnAverageWriter on 05 Dec 2011, 05:20
I'm surprised, I was sure Jeph would fix Marigold in the last panel of #2070 (she's not in perspective and thus suddenly a Hulk) ... !

Not to mention it also kinda looks like said Hulk is holding a certain "creepy" someone's hand, as well...
Title: Re: WCDT 2066-2070; Nov. 28-Dec. 2, 2011
Post by: DSL on 05 Dec 2011, 09:21
I was reading that panel as Marigold walking in front of the group, just that the back curve of her arm lined up with the front curve of Clinton's. It's happened a few other times, most recently where it's looked like Marten and Steve were holding hands ... And with Padma in the same panel, you know she would have said something ...