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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 29 Apr 2012, 05:19
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And here we go... Hopefully our fellow Canadian posters don't mind the jabs in the poll, eh? (Especially since I'm located north of about half the population of Canada, anyways...)
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Hannelore would wear a tocque all the time.
The worry hat's close enough...
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I confess to curiosity about the specials board at a hypothetical Timmies of Doom:
* Mocha Timbits
* Timbit Mocha
* TIMBITS. 6 of 'em.
* A single Timbit, lovingly pounded into your forehead.
Also, poutine is good for the soul. Especially if it's from the chip truck at the base of the Blue Water Bridge in Sarnia-Point Edward. Bonus points if there is a gull standing on the other end of the picnic table, waiting for you to throw a fry at it.
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At Timmies O' Doom, there's a robotic T-Rex that pisses nothing but Double-Doubles.
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Also, poutine is good for the soul. Especially if it's from the chip truck at the base of the Blue Water Bridge in Sarnia-Point Edward. Bonus points if there is a gull standing on the other end of the picnic table, waiting for you to throw a fry at it.
"Timbits" and "poutine" sent me to Google. A chip truck in Sarnia sent me back to a childhood memory: I'm a former Detroiter though I haven't been in Canada for 20 years or more. But my first taste of french fries with vinegar was at a stand in a brick-paved town square in Sarnia, probably near the end of WWII. The chips were served up in a paper cone.
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Wouldn't it be Yelling Beaver in French?
Hey f**kers, Jeph est hors dicka**ing autour au Canada à un congrès stupide et m'a donné les rênes aujourd'hui.
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The leafs option should be "Toronto Maple Leafs Fanclub" but is otherwise correct.
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No Duct Tape jokes?
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Do French Canadians even have French accents?
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Last French Canadian person I talked to at any length -- a tunnelman/conveyorman on a Canadian Great Lakes freighter -- had an accent best described as a p!ssed-off volcano with a throat full of gravel. His most memorable utterance, describing the ship's cook, was: "Fookin' Danny couldn't fookin' cook a fookin' turr." I think a turr is a kind of bird, not generally considered edible. I would not, however, describe Dominique, the tunnelman, as typical anything. Probably doesn't help Akima any, but it's one of the stories I like to remember.
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The accent is known commonly as "Franglais". Many Quebecois hockey players have the accent, which makes it amusing to hear when they're interviewed during a game. It's also where a lot of the stereotypical Canadian "accents" come from.
The funny thing is, of course, that Jeph's in Calgary, which is pretty much on the opposite side of the country from Quebec.
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Oh, and "poutine" is more than fries with vinegar. Proper poutine features french fries, cheese curds, gravy, and a whole mess (literal translation of the word "poutine", by the way) of ketchup, mustard and vinegar.
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Godamnit guys. I want to go to Toronto now. And I also want some fucking poutine. Seriously though, Toronto is one of my favorite places on earth
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This looks like the beginning of an AWESOME relationship!!!!!
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It's all fun and games until someone introduces her to Pintsize.
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Is the girl the same one in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2013 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2013)?
I think so, since we first saw her in the secret bakery. They didn't mention she's the owner's daughter, though.
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I have this awful feeling (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=44) that somewhere there's a piece of paper that says Pintsize (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=402) isn't allowed to be within 500 ft. of children.
I personally think Faye would make a good mother. Eventually...
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Between li'l Sam and the increased focus on the AnthroPCs, I suspect someone's parental instincts are starting to kick in...
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Is the girl the same one in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2013 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2013)?
I think so, since we first saw her in the secret bakery. They didn't mention she's the owner's daughter, though.
That's because she was first clearly introduced as his daughter here: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957)
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How old is Sam? 10? She should be old enough to be home alone for a few hours now; just leave a can* of soup she can microwave.
*It may be necessary to open the can for her.
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They didn't mention she's the owner's daughter, though.
Yeah, it's the same girl (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Samantha).. .we actually first saw her during Jim (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Jim)'s date with Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957).
Edit: While you were posting someone said exactly what you said. Going to leave it so I can get thread notifications
Edit2: Actually, mustang6172, she pretty much proved herself incapable of doing that back in 1957... even though we're up to comic 2176, not much time has advanced in-strip so that fire extinguisher scene is probably very fresh in Jim's mind.
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That was a stove she set on fire, and she was too young to be using that. A microwave only requires one button to be pushed.
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Setting the stove on fire is the only way to learn how not to set the stove on fire. It's like playing poker for real money.
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From poo-larva (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1960) to pool of lava (molten metal anyway) in two strip panels.
How old is Sam? 10?
She's supposed to be thirteen! At that age I, and I suspect many other 13-year-olds, could cook simple meals without burning the kitchen down, but Sam apparently suffers from infantilisation...
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Infantilization's a little much, she just seems to be lacking in common sense, which has been known to happen to 13-year olds (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328538/). This girl jumped down a cliff to catch a snake, people.
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At thirteen I crossed town to catch a train to London (35 miles away) to spend a day shopping there on my own. But then I'd started crossing town to school alone on a service bus (not a school bus) before I was five. However, I didn't do cooking at that age.
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god damnit, how come no one ever asked me that question when i was 13?
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This girl jumped down a cliff to catch a snake, people.
So, naturally, she gets to use a blowtorch. :P
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Nothing like getting them early is there Faye. :-D
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How old is Sam? 10? She should be old enough to be home alone for a few hours now; just leave a can* of soup she can microwave.
*It may be necessary to open the can for her.
That was a stove she set on fire, and she was too young to be using that. A microwave only requires one button to be pushed.
Are you sure you wanna put that there can in the microwave?
You know, can, metal, microwave, sparks, fire, explosions?
Am I gettin' through to you?
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A bit like welding, then. The kid's going to have a happy but eventful life, I guess.
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So for the poll participants who predicted CoD burning down, there's yet hope. Just might not be Cosette, is all.
(I wonder if Sam and Cosette will become friends?)
(Or Sam and Hannelore ... ? Naaah. Sam likes playing in dirt too much.)
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Dang, I'd be down for some Timmies of Doom.
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So for the poll participants who predicted CoD burning down, there's yet hope. Just might not be Cosette, is all.
(I wonder if Sam and Cosette will become friends?)
Oh man, that's a scary thought, Sam and Cosette in the same room as flammable substances and/or sources of ignition.
Even better, Cosette with responsibility for Sam in that same room.
NoHam is doomed.
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First thought that went through my mind on this one was "Now Dora, a young lady needs these skills."
Although at 13 Dad and I were hunting (only because someone had to legally drive to where we could go hunting), and I would regularly disappear for the day during the salmon run (that I could get to on my bike).
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Oh man, that's a scary thought, Sam and Cosette in the same room as flammable substances and/or sources of ignition.
Even better, Cosette with responsibility for Sam in that same room.
NoHam is doomed.
What a twist!!
/Mnightshamalamadingdong
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Is the girl the same one in http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2013 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2013)?
I think so, since we first saw her in the secret bakery. They didn't mention she's the owner's daughter, though.
We met her even earlier than that. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957)
EDIT: Ninja'd by OE.
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Jeph's In Canada, Eh? What'd be different if QC's setting was North of the Border?
Faye would be the ex-pat American with the funny accent. 3 (6.8%)
Marten would always be going Oot and Aboot. 2 (4.5%)
Hannelore would wear a tocque all the time. 3 (6.8%)
Dora would have a pronounced French accent. 4 (9.1%)
Marigold would REALLY like poutine. 7 (15.9%)
Angus would be a radio analyst for the local junior hockey team. 1 (2.3%)
Steve would be a provincial MP. 0 (0%)
Coffee of Doom would be Timmies of Doom. 4 (9.1%)
Yelling Bird would be Yelling Beaver. 9 (20.5%)
Pintsize would still have a huge porn collection. 3 (6.8%)
"We do NOT say 'oot and aboot', you HOSER!" 1 (2.3%)
Socialized self-hatred would be known as "Toronto Maple Leafs Hockey Fan Club" 2 (4.5%)
Enough of the Canada jokes. It's bad enough we have guest strips. 2 (4.5%) <yeah, yeah, I know>
Spathe Canadian Bacon! 3 (6.8%)
Total Members Voted: 44
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Faye clearly understands that to keep a child out of your hair, it is best to engage them in an activity they will find enjoyable and yet will be still be educational.
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Faye clearly understands that to keep a child out of your hair, it is best to engage them in an activity they will find enjoyable and yet will be still be educational...
...that involves the need for concentration, open flame and risk of bodily injury.
ENDS IN TEARS
TEARS AND LIABILITY
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That was a stove she set on fire, and she was too young to be using that. A microwave only requires one button to be pushed.
But a microwave can still cause a flame. Just ask my brother, who for some reason forgot to put water in the bowl when cooking ramen in the microwave.
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Marigold would REALLY like poutine. 7 (15.9%)
Oh definitely. Poutine is amazing. More amazing than even spathe ham I'd presume.
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Hello i'm new here. I just got found out about QC two weeks ago and i got caught up and found this to be a amazing comic. And i have to admit today's comic made me want to finally register and post. I think Faye will teach this kid well. Or hilarity will ensue and said young girl will catch something on fire!
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Considering Sam's track record, I don;t think this will end well. At least this time it won't be Cossette's fault when her place of employment burns down.
Now that I think about it, Faye also started a stove related fire, except hers actually torched her apartment. And she was an ADULT when it happened.
Yea, this will definitely not end well.
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Actually, wasn't it a toaster accident? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22
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Marigold would REALLY like poutine. 7 (15.9%)
Oh definitely. Poutine is amazing. More amazing than even spathe ham I'd presume.
The only thing more amazing would be spathe poutine!
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Actually, wasn't it a toaster accident? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22
Touché. The point still stand.
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She's supposed to be thirteen! At that age I, and I suspect many other 13-year-olds, could cook simple meals without burning the kitchen down, but Sam apparently suffers from infantilisation...
My 7 yo (girl) would be just fine if we left her alone at home for a date. My 10 yo (boy), not so much. There are teenagers older than Sam who I wouldn't turn my back on, much less my house over to.
All kids/young humans/adolescents are different--as a parent you have to use your judgement and assess the risk of a given situation.
Jim's got empirical evidence on his side for this decision...infantilism or not, he's got history to back him up.
Besides, as a plot device I think this Faye/Sam thing is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
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Actually, wasn't it a toaster accident? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22
Touché. The point still stand.
It could have been a malfunction of the toaster, as in the self-timer not functioning like it should. I haven't met a toaster yet that would stay on indefinitely on any setting. Unless it was a toaster over, which is a different matter entirely.
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Actually, wasn't it a toaster accident? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22
Touché. The point still stand.
It could have been a malfunction of the toaster, as in the self-timer not functioning like it should. I haven't met a toaster yet that would stay on indefinitely on any setting. Unless it was a toaster over, which is a different matter entirely.
She said it was because she is bad at making toast. I took this to be a comment on her being a kitchen hazard in general.
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Later on she said "that toaster was out to get me." Then Marten's can opener served her up a heapin' helpin' of Karma.
Or so she said, in both cases. We never actually saw any of that happen, did we?
:psyduck:
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Yeah, the only source we have for the "Faye's apartment burned down" bit is Faye. Specifically, the old Faye who may or may not have invented the story entire. Tough she was friends with, and employed by, Dora before either of them met Marten, so she must have been staying somewhere.
Also, is it possible her toaster truly did have it in for her? We have seen APC toasters after all… though I can't see one effectively committing suicide for the chance to get even.
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It could have somehow transferred its consciousness somewhere else right before the flames engulfed the kitchen. Maybe.
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Into Pintsize, perhaps.
(Frakkin' toasters)
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But sentient toasters LOVE making toast. That is why they chose to be toasters. Maybe it loved toasting so much it didn't want to stop.
Although, I doubt Faye could have afforded a AI toaster even if she had wanted one, which is unlikely.
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Besides, as a plot device I think this Faye/Sam thing is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
I completely agree. There's this really great thing that happens when a young adult goes from being the student to being the mentor, and I think Faye is ripe for that. I think she needs somewhere to direct all her creative energy and pent up affection, in a non-romantic way. Basically, she would make a really good big sister!
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She should be quite compatible with a creative tomboy.
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Re: Faye's cooking.
If you butter the bread before toasting, there will be a grease fire. The intelligence of the toaster matters not.
This has been confirmed empirically by a younger brother. Do NOT try this at home!
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Also, it's not like Faye has been established as nightmarishly incompetent around kitchen appliances either; she (admittedly infrequently) bakes everything from cookies to pies and that requires enthusiasm and skill to do from scratch, and hasn't burned down their shared apartment even once so far. She's even got Hanners in on the act as well.
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Also, it's not like Faye has been established as nightmarishly incompetent around kitchen appliances either; she (admittedly infrequently) bakes everything from cookies to pies and that requires enthusiasm and skill to do from scratch, and hasn't burned down their shared apartment even once so far. She's even got Hanners in on the act as well.
This is a good point. I hereby retract my assessment of her relationship with kitchen appliances.
I still stand by the opinion that Sam with a blowtorch is a seriously risky proposal.
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I had completely forgotten about Jim and his Larva.
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I still stand by the opinion that Sam with a blowtorch is a seriously risky proposal.
ANYONE with a blowtorch is risky proposal.
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Fair enough, but a spastic 13 year old (and this one in particular) in a back alley especially so.
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She said it was because she is bad at making toast. I took this to be a comment on her being a kitchen hazard in general.
Faye also managed to cut herself badly enough to require a visit to the ER while opening a can of tomatoes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=207), which is pretty inept.
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And there is this admission in the final panel. http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=212 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=212)
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Those freshly cut metal surfaces are sharp. All she would have had to do would have been to trip over something or reach past the can without looking.
For a comparison, check out the vocabulary and the fingers of sheet metal workers.
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I don't blame her for the can, those things are dangerous. That's why you should always use one of those nice tin openers that don't leave sharp edges. They also have the advantage of not letting the lid fall down into the can and the lid is replaceable. http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/20080-rosle-can-opener.aspx (http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/20080-rosle-can-opener.aspx)
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So, me being new here, please forgive me for some descrepencies (if there is any) in my post.
[Insert PBS Thank-You here]
Faye is usually sarcastic, and Dora will be protective, so no blowtorch action for us. ;n;
But all recklessness blowtorching crap aside, Faye can be clumsy. She's like the rest of us- adept, but we make mistakes.
Burned toast, toaster and home are one of these mistakes.
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Welcome, new person!
It would be mean to get Sam's hopes up and then not let her use a blowtorch.
Faye must have some mechanical dexterity in order to have majored in art. So you've got a sound point that events such as the toaster fire should be viewed as isolated accidents rather than a pattern of ineptitude.
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Is that ladle big enough to hold Froglord ?
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If there IS an animal with a giant ladle for a dong, it'd bring a new meaning (and intentional misspellings) to "too many cooks spoil the soup."
PS: Too many ladle cocks spoil the soup vag.
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Do you actually say "...spoil the soup"? I've only ever heard "...spoil the broth".
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I'm from Georgia, so it's entirely possible we speak a different dialect down here.
Change broth to bros-th, and it's bishi!
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And The Arsenal of Doom grows
Soon they will be able to instigate their plan and TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!!!
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Gravity seems to have shifted its direction by about 5 degrees in today's comic.
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Gravity seems to have shifted its direction by about 5 degrees in today's comic.
As long as people don't start falling sideways...
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I'm not usually a sucker for a corny battlecry and a war pose, but something about seeing a young girl wielding a ladle like that and hearing the line in my head clicked for me.
Also, someone needs to do some kind of chef cookoff/battle royale and put it on the air. Yesterday.
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:psyduck: I can't unsee the frog lips in panel 3. Thanks rodtorfelsonsarmada.
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Brazing and pot roast? Unless there are some cooking terms that I don't know about, I can see how Sam 'learned' to set the stove on fire. Using an acetylene torch and a copper pipe will add a delightful metallic flavor to the pot roast, but be careful as too much can set the kitchen on fire, and result in burning the pot roast to a crisp. To prevent this from happening, keep a fire extinguisher on hand as Sam has demonstrated. When finished, serve with a ladle that is large enough to be mistaken for elephant genitals.
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Now I can't get that stupid "Aiken Drum" song out of my head...
Brazing and pot roast? Unless there are some cooking terms that I don't know about, I can see how Sam 'learned' to set the stove on fire.
Braising (http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~media/brais.htm) is a perfectly respectable cooking term, but brazing is a different thing as Faye points out. Fun with homonyms!
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:psyduck: I can't unsee the frog lips in panel 3. Thanks rodtorfelsonsarmada.
Kind of agree here. I'm not too much of a fan on the lowers lips.
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Ha, I like the touches (conscious or unconscious) about the characters: that is, given half the chance, a 13-year-old boy would probably create some kind of genitalia. That's not the go-to response for a 13-year-old girl. And while Faye had a little sister, Dora was the little sister to Sven.
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Now I can't get that stupid "Aiken Drum" song out of my head...
Brazing and pot roast? Unless there are some cooking terms that I don't know about, I can see how Sam 'learned' to set the stove on fire.
Braising (http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~media/brais.htm) is a perfectly respectable cooking term, but brazing is a different thing as Faye points out. Fun with homonyms!
Aren't those homophones though?
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Am I the only person who suspects Dora is going to flip her lid before the end of the week?
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Am I the only person who wonders if the ladle came from cannibalizing bonercat?
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Re: toaster fires: I have a friend who accidentally set fire to his parents' kitchen with a toaster last year. Something about dodgy electrics.
"Bread went in. Fire came out" was his comment.
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You get the feeling that, after discovering the sword behind the counter, Faye decided to move on to creating the Malaysian Battle Spoon, the Frying Pan of Doom, and other assorted warrior kitchenware in her metalworking?
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Am I the only person who wonders if the ladle came from cannibalizing bonercat?
Not anymore, you're not.
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You get the feeling that, after discovering the sword behind the counter, Faye decided to move on to creating the Malaysian Battle Spoon, the Frying Pan of Doom, and other assorted warrior kitchenware in her metalworking?
She's going for the complete Combat Serving Set.
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Aren't those homophones though?
Gah! Yes, my bad!
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Plant genitalia, on the other hand...
(Let's just say I can definitely think of some flowers, though not quite on that scale.)
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She's going for the complete Combat Serving Set.
Next up, armour. I vote for an Apron of Douche Repelling.
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Didn't realize I hadn't posted yet, I was wondering why it wasn't showing up. Anyway, I'm shocked Dora let Faye go through with it, but it seemed to work out, I guess.
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So far...
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She's going for the complete Combat Serving Set.
Next up, armour. I vote for an Apron of Douche Repelling.
Faye hates aprons, and if she won't wear one for welding ...
GAU-9B Rotary Espresso Cannon.
(Oh, you want a double shot in the dark, do you?)
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Seems to me that two things are going to happen, based on the week's comics so far;
- Sam's gonna have a great time, and will want to make CoD her second after-school hangout, and Faye her new best friend
- Dora's going to get extra gray hairs from the experience. Hope she's got extra black dye...
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You forgot:
- Marten will come in, see Sam, be reminded of Padma, and do something incredibly rash and stupid.
wait no that doesn't sound like marten at all, I mean he will mope about a bit and do nothing.
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Seems to me that two things are going to happen, based on the week's comics so far;
- Sam's gonna have a great time, and will want to make CoD her second after-school hangout, and Faye her new best friend
- Dora's going to get extra gray hairs from the experience. Hope she's got extra black dye...
Hmmm...
Wasn't there a strip a little while ago about Dora officially have certified control issues?
I predict that the immovable object of Sam's uncontrollability collides with the unstoppable force of Dora's controlling nature, in such a way as to create a life-changing moment of self-realisation for one, both, or neither of the two aforementioned characters.
(maybe)
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I predict that the immovable object of Sam's uncontrollability collides with the unstoppable force of Dora's controlling nature, in such a way as to create a life-changing moment of self-realisation for one, both, or neither of the two aforementioned characters.
(maybe)
Would you care to provide probabilities? We can deal with probabilities. We've done it before.
(well, I ignored them)
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Would you care to provide probabilities? We can deal with probabilities. We've done it before.
(well, I ignored them)
In my opinion, there's a 100% chance that something involving Dora and Faye will happen at some point in the future.
To the Max!
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Well, to continue with Blood-Tree's theory, there's also the very unstable variable of Faye in this equation. Faye has also well demonstrated her capability of tough love. I think it's very possible that Faye's purposely making this situation as chaotic as possible to force Dora to deal with it better. Or something.
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Well, to continue with Blood-Tree's theory, there's also the very unstable variable of Faye in this equation. Faye has also well demonstrated her capability of tough love. I think it's very possible that Faye's purposely making this situation as chaotic as possible to force Dora to deal with it better. Or something.
And then Raven comes in, calculates the probability of Dora getting over her control issues, feeds it into the quantum espressosaurus, hooks it up to a fresh cup of really hot coffee, and turns it on!
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Sam is Dora's Malevolent Counterintuitive Pathogen (http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Malevolent_Counterintuitive_Pathogen)
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I'm calling it: The War Ladle is gonna catch or cause a fire.
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"You ALWAYS suggest that."
"It's bound to work EVENTUALLY." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137)
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"You ALWAYS suggest that."
"It's bound to work EVENTUALLY." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137)
Dora and Tai have a lesb.....
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Relax Dora, Faye finally has a Padawan. After all,it's not as if she's gonna take her to The Dark Side
Oh wait..............
Oh dear.
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A terrifying thought, indeed.
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You work in a coffee place, you're constantly in touch with "the dark side". (coffee - black - dark - ha ha?)
... btw. WEIRDEST Dora week ever. Tuesday her control issues (which are suddenly more apparent than ever before...) were firing off like new year's eve fireworks and today she's wearing an invisible straightjacket... which is just an unfamiliar and somewhat unlikely look for her.
To me, panel 2 today just looks weird.
Is there a female here that can explain to me the different kinds of emotions conveyed by that pose of Dora's in panel 2? °O
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So ... it will NOT be Cosette who burns down Coffee of Doom.
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that can explain to me the different kinds of emotions conveyed by that pose of Dora's in panel 2? °O
I just see it as a variation of crossing her arms. Or maybe she has goosebumps. I dunno.
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Yeah, just another way to cross arms, especially if she's cold which is quite possible in a tanktop. The only body language I get from it is sort of trying to protect herself, which comes across a bit in the last panel.
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Relax Dora, Faye finally has a Padawan. After all,it's not as if she's gonna take her to The Dark Side
<snip>
Oh wait..............
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Oh dear.
Relax K,
She'll be redeemed in the final feature after an epic battle (likely using the Malaysian Battle Spatula and the new War Ladle).
The prequels will be forgetable, but the cartoons'll be decent.
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Tomorrow's lesson: Cussin' at Customers.
Swearing at Stupid People won't be on the curriculum for a good few years (well, ideally).
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She'll be redeemed in the final feature after an epic battle (likely using the Malaysian Battle Spatula and the new War Ladle).
Er... Wouldn't she have to get her arm cut off first? George does so love the arm severin'.
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Jeph's In Canada, Eh? What'd be different if QC's setting was North of the Border?
Faye would be the ex-pat American with the funny accent. 6 (8.7%)
Marten would always be going Oot and Aboot. 3 (4.3%)
Hannelore would wear a tocque all the time. 5 (7.2%)
Dora would have a pronounced French accent. 6 (8.7%)
Marigold would REALLY like poutine. 8 (11.6%)
Angus would be a radio analyst for the local junior hockey team. 1 (1.4%)
Steve would be a provincial MP. 2 (2.9%)
Coffee of Doom would be Timmies of Doom. 5 (7.2%)
Yelling Bird would be Yelling Beaver. 17 (24.6%)
Pintsize would still have a huge porn collection. 5 (7.2%)
"We do NOT say 'oot and aboot', you HOSER!" 1 (1.4%)
Socialized self-hatred would be known as "Toronto Maple Leafs Hockey Fan Club" 2 (2.9%)
Enough of the Canada jokes. It's bad enough we have guest strips. 2 (2.9%)
Spathe Canadian Bacon! 6 (8.7%)
Total Members Voted: 69
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I'm not sure if Sam looks more appalled or astonished at the idea of developing a Faye bosom.
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Just curious how her dad's gonna put her to sleep with that expresso in her
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She'll be redeemed in the final feature after an epic battle (likely using the Malaysian Battle Spatula and the new War Ladle).
Er... Wouldn't she have to get her arm cut off first? George does so love the arm severin'.
Well, we learned early on that is one thing the Malaysian Battle Spatula (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=540) does quite well.
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So ... it will NOT be Cosette who burns down Coffee of Doom.
If I remember correctly, she never burned down her places of business, but her working at places caused things to happen to them. So since she's working at Coffee of Doom, if anyone burns it down, it's still Cosette's fault.
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Yeah, just another way to cross arms, especially if she's cold which is quite possible in a tanktop. The only body language I get from it is sort of trying to protect herself, which comes across a bit in the last panel.
I think she might be consciously trying to not be controlling the situation. It's not the same body language of 1755-1756 but I imagine she's a lot calmer/more self aware about it now. And I'm not a lady, but sometimes I make that pose if my arms are already crossed when I see someone doing something really stupid but it's not my business.
Also, because SMBC has something to say on just about every topic: Body language. (http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1842)
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Would it be wrong to make a word filter that changed "expresso" to "espresso" just because that mistake bothers me more than it should?
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Filter away! The misspelled word looks like a Hogwarts spell, maybe the quickndirty version of expelliarmus or a spell causing instant peristalsis in your opponent's intestinal tract.
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Would it be wrong to make a word filter that changed "expresso" to "espresso" just because that mistake bothers me more than it should?
Oops
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You work in a coffee place, you're constantly in touch with "the dark side". (coffee - black - dark - ha ha?)
Hmm, should that be one for the pun jar? Besides, everyone knows that the dark side is at the Secret Bakery...
Because they have cookies.
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Would it be wrong to make a word filter that changed "expresso" to "espresso" just because that mistake bothers me more than it should?
It's not a mistake. It's an Americanized spelling and pronunciation of a foreign word. Everyone understands what is meant when someone orders an expresso, some people just choose to be jerks about it.
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Wasn't calling you out, Bachi, it just bugs me. And Boomslang, I wouldn't consider it "an Americanized spelling", that's like "color" instead of "colour". "Expresso" actually changes the pronunciation of the word, as well as making it, well...not a real word.
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I'm not sure if Sam looks more appalled or astonished at the idea of developing a Faye bosom.
She appears to be a bit frightened, which is not unusually depending on how old she is supposed to be (do we know her age? I can't remember). I've known women who said that, as young girls, they were terrified about developing breasts as large as the other women in their family. Some, as adults, are glad they did. At least one is sad that she didn't.
(And, wow, I just realized that I have spent a lot of time in the friend zone; lots of talk about boobs but not a lot of actually seeing them.)
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I consider "espresso" correct. But Wikipedia points out that both are loan words, espresso from the French, expresso from Spanish, and have the sense of "press out." Express is a verb sometimes used to refer to what happens when grapes or other fruit are pressed in the first step to making wine. The usage I recall is that the juice is "expressed."
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Just curious how her dad's gonna put her to sleep with that expresso in her
I'm pretty sure she's of the age where he puts her to bed by saying, "go to bed." It's her problem if sleep won't come.
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We didn't actually see her drink the espresso. I didn't like coffee at all until I went to college. About the same time I learned to like beer. Wonder what that means....
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Merriam-Webster's dictionary acknowledges expresso as a variant of espresso, as does the New Oxford American Dictionary. What we may feel about it is a separate matter from the usage that they record!
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Sam is 13. Strip 1958, referenced in her wiki entry.
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Warladle vs. Malasian Battle Spatchula proving run perhaps?
I suddenly remember an incident at a chinese place I went to with flying spatulas..
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Hmmmmm
Next door to The House of Flying Daggers?
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Uh-oh! Sam has not made Dora happy telling her about Jim's date!
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I can practically see Dora's psyche shatter.
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I pretty much suspected he was going out on a date, with how vague he was in his explanation.
Am I the only one who thinks he should have been up-front with the reason of why he needed a sitter? I mean, he could have just said 'I'm going out on a date and the sitter can make it'. Now it just looks like he's being sneaky, however unnecessary it might (should?) be.
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Busted!
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At least he didn't lie about it.
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At this rate, in the next comic Faye will be teaching Sam how to make explosives in a bathtub.
Either that, or she'll introduce her to Pintsize!
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Why does Coffee o' Doom even have a chef's knife?
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Right, a chef's knife makes much less sense than a broadsword. ::)
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At least he didn't lie about it.
This is Dora we're talking about. Not divulging all details is just as bad as lying in her world. She's going to go ballistic on him. I just hope he has the balls to call her on it.
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The chef knife is for chopping carrots (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=694).
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It looks like she's upset, but restraining herself. Hopefully she manages to keep doing so.
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This is Dora we're talking about. Not divulging all details is just as bad as lying in her world. She's going to go ballistic on him. I just hope he has the balls to call her on it.
Just so. Marten didn't lie about Cosette hitting on him, which wasn't even a thing that he did - and look where that led, especially when he called her on it.
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While I definitely don't want her to go ballistic (and I don't think she will in front of the kid), I think she has the right to be a little upset. Sam has a point - if they're gonna be friends, Jim should be able to admit where he's going.
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The trouble is that Dora doesn't do a little upset.
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"You went on a date with my dad, right?"
Yeah, that's what you want to hear from the kid holding a knife.
And why does CoD need a knife?
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The chef knife is for chopping carrots (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=694).
They also sell cakes, so perhaps they sometimes cut those.
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And why does CoD need a knife?
Why does CoD need a broadsword? Why does Faye do her brazing on the premises? Why does Jeph's comment make me think of Faye filling a bathtub with gasoline and dissolving styrofoam in it to make napalm Fight Club style?
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Oooh! That's got to burn, Dora! Jim is the social butterfly; you get the larva.
Next door to The House of Flying Daggers?
Oddly enough, one of the Chinese characters for "dagger" is 匕 which used also to mean "spoon" or "ladle". Another character that is often translated as dagger is 刀, but that really means a single-edged cutting implement like the cook's knife Sam is sharpening. So CoD really is the House Of Flying Daggers tonight!
Of course the Chinese title of the movie is actually《十面埋伏》or "Ambush From Ten Sides" which is the title of a famous piece of Chinese classical music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtrthXXmKgA). Google Translate even translates 十面埋伏 as House Of Flying Daggers, which really is a fail because the characters don't mean that at all.
And why does CoD need a knife?
Maybe they serve lemon tea (http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/939/lemon+tea)?
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The knife is for cutting remarks.
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I consider "espresso" correct. But Wikipedia points out that both are loan words, espresso from the French, expresso from Spanish, and have the sense of "press out." Express is a verb sometimes used to refer to what happens when grapes or other fruit are pressed in the first step to making wine. The usage I recall is that the juice is "expressed."
Well.. allow me to espress my impression then: I'm gonna use "to espress" and "expresso" from now on. Because I can. :-D
At least he didn't lie about it.
Isn't a lie of omission still a lie?
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At least he didn't lie about it.
Isn't a lie of omission still a lie?
Dora: Absolutely
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I figure, because it's the logical continuation from this comic, Dora's probably going to confront Jim about this when he comes to pick Sam up.
I'm interested in seeing how she does it, though, because really there isn't anything reasonably to get upset about - they went on one date, nothing came of it, and they're not so much friends as business partners anyway.
I guess she could make some kind of (teasing, maybe, to surprise everyone that thinks she's gonna get all angry?) remark about how he told Sam not to tell her he was going on a date. But I think that's about it, and even that would be odd.
At this point I'm really just curious to see where this goes, I think.
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Hide your babies and lock up your children. Dorasaur incoming.
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Isn't a lie of omission still a lie?
It's not that simple. There are a thousand things which you don't tell your partner every day; there just isn't time, for one thing; and they are still living their life while you live yours. So the question is who decides, and how, and why, what things are those which absolutely must be passed on. This is in effect part of the informal contract between couples, and every such agreement is different.
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Bathtub Explosives.....nah, Bathtub Gin would be more Faye's Style and cultural heritage.
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And why does CoD need a knife?
Why does CoD need a broadsword? Why does Faye do her brazing on the premises? Why does Jeph's comment make me think of Faye filling a bathtub with gasoline and dissolving styrofoam in it to make napalm Fight Club style?
Rule number 1: NO talking about fight club.
Rule number 2: NO talking about fight club.
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Ummm... I kinda hate to point this out, but everyone who thinks Jim should have told Dora what was going on needs to remember that Jim and Dora aren't dating.
They went on one date, and halfway through, Dora realized that she's not ready to get involved with someone.
Maybe Jim didn't want to tell Dora because he didn't want to hurt her feelings. Maybe he just doesn't want her all up in his business. Either way, Jim doesn't really have an obligation here.
Whether the fact that Jim is dating someone else bothers Dora or not is another matter, but she really doesn't have much recourse if it does bother her, and it's not very realistic for her to expect him not to continue on his own way.
I personally don't think Dora will be too upset with what's going on with Jim. After all, she seemed to take the Marten and Padma situation in stride and she was much more involved with Marten than she ever was with Jim.
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One thing about the situation is "Who knows, maybe once you get things sorted out we can give it another try." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1963) It'd be crazy and controlling but there's can be an interpretation of implying of, "I might wait a little for you." Jim has every right to go out and date and there's no need for him to put himself on a shelf for Dora, since they barely know each other for one thing. It can still hurt when someone who came on strongly to you moves on to another, although he probably asked out the new person in a similar way to how he asked out Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1944). Jim's just that kinda guy. 8-)
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While I definitely don't want her to go ballistic (and I don't think she will in front of the kid), I think she has the right to be a little upset. Sam has a point - if they're gonna be friends, Jim should be able to admit where he's going.
"able to admit" is not the same as "obliged to inform". Not everyone likes to shout it to the world that they've got a date, especially when it isn't actually relevant.
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Ummm... I kinda hate to point this out, but everyone who thinks Jim should have told Dora what was going on needs to remember that Jim and Dora aren't dating.
They went on one date, and halfway through, Dora realized that she's not ready to get involved with someone.
Maybe Jim didn't want to tell Dora because he didn't want to hurt her feelings. Maybe he just doesn't want her all up in his business. Either way, Jim doesn't really have an obligation here.
I agree. What do those people expect Jim's train of thought to be, exactly? "Although there's no real reason why Dora has to know what I'm doing, I better tell her anyway just on the off-chance she'd be upset about my not doing so. Especially since there's no chance at all that a person who would get upset at that would also be inclined to be upset and possibly create a scene upon finding out that information." He's hardly my favorite character but he isn't stupid, and surely anyone can see that any problems that come out of this are of Dora's making, not his.
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I agree. No reason for Dora to be upset. I hope she´ll leave it at a snarky comment when Jim comes to pick Sam up. I can't see her going all trainwreck over this in light of the comic's logic (i.e. I hope Jeph is planning on her to get some grip on herself^^).
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Kids: being completely honest and open about things... Making everything akward for adults in the process since the dawn of friggin time.
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Kids: being completely honest and open about things... Making everything akward for adults in the process since the dawn of friggin time.
Truth
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The knife is for cutting remarks.
Oh, you're a sharp one today.
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The knife is for cutting remarks.
Oh, you're a sharp one today.
:-D At both of you!
Sooooooo, here's my thinking on this...You come on to someone and go on a date which ends with "maybe in the future we can give this another try."
While you go on with your life, you don't really want to be waving your dating life in her face, particularly if there's a potential for future involvement...hence, his not telling her AND asking Sam not to tell her either. He obviously recognized that while he's not answerable to Dora, it would be awkward and possibly hurt her feelings a bit. If he didn't think it was a big deal he wouldn't have had a problem with her knowing. Remember, it's not just that he didn't tell her, he specifically told the kid not to tell her either.
So here's the thing...I think it's totally tacky to ask a woman who a few weeks ago you were interested in, and indicated that you would be interested in trying again with in the future...to look after your kid so you can go out with another woman. Maaaaaan......surely he could've postponed the date.
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One thing I'm not entirely sure about with today's comic: the title, "Gotta Learn Sometime".
Is that in reference to Sam, or to Dora?
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Interesting situation for Dora:
She's just coming back from being told she has, er, "control issues," and is now in a situation where, at least as of Comic 2179, she's completely losing control of the situation: A guy she's dated (once) but is a also a business partner of sorts is using her as a babysitter for another date, the closest thing she has to a right-hand person in her shop is turning it into the Weapon Shops of Isher, and there's a damn teenager (her date/friend/business partner's daughter) behind the counter sharpening up what looks like it wants to be a Ka-Bar when it grows up.
I can see next week's (strip time) therapy session as
DORA: (Relates the above).
THERAPIST: (Pulls a fifth and a tumbler from desk drawer) "Geez, kid. Here. You need it."
@TinPenguin: I would say the answer is: Yes.
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What's next in Samantha's "mentoring" by Faye?
Learning ALL THE CUSS WORDS! 2 (4.4%)
Shopping at the local second-hand store for goofy hats! 1 (2.2%)
Burning down an apartment with only a toaster! 2 (4.4%)
AnthroPC tossing for fun and profit! 0 (0%)
The Barista Sneer(tm) 13 (28.9%)
Playing left field for the Northampton Bonercats Kickball League! 0 (0%)
Bourbon-flavored Milkshakes! 0 (0%)
Snark 101! 9 (20%)
Leading a boy on while moving in with him platonically. 2 (4.4%)
Spathe Ham! 0 (0%)
Boobs! 2 (4.4%)
Butts! 0 (0%)
Knees! (Oh wait, this isn't Bloom County... never mind) 2 (4.4%)
How to drive your boss crazy in three simple steps! 5 (11.1%)
Tracking the elusive PIZZA GIRL! 7 (15.6%)
Total Members Voted: 45
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Poor Dora. You can almost hear her thinking "Damned if you do, but damn it all if I won't!"
But as DSL posted above, with therapy still right up there in her mind, hearing something like that from the child of the guy she still has an... emotional attachment (I guess...) to, you don't have to have a psychology major to see that her brain wants her to a) throw, b) hit, c) scream, d) whatever, and it's only some thin piece of self control that's stopping her from doing e) all of the above.
More than likely, Dora's therapist is going to end up in therapy at the end of this saga.
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I've never really liked calling it a "lie of omission." A lie is a blatant falsehood. Just because you interpreted someone's words incorrectly doesn't mean they lied to you, intentionally or otherwise. Just pay attention to what people say, then apply your minds to figure out what was actually said.
Though that requires actually thinking.
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A lie of omission, like a lie of commission, is a deliberate attempt to deceive. Intent is the key part of the definition. This differs from simply not mentioning something.
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I think the concept of the lie of omission just gets applied in places where it shouldn't.
In a situation where you have a moral or social obligation to inform somebody of something that is clearly understood by both parties and you don't then that's blatant dishonesty. You've deceived as surely through your silence as you could through your spoken words.
A situation like this though, well it just plain doesn't apply. It's not a lie of omission. It's just not telling her something. Being less informative than maximally possible.
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@DSL: that's exactly along the lines of what I was thinking. Dora, having a day that definitely challenges a lot of her control issues.
Heh, maybe the "date" is going to be the mystery redhead that Jeph keeps drawing!
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To those arguing "lies": Yeah, no, Jim wasn't lying, he was trying to find a friendly and reasonable place to leave a hazard of a child before he had to be somewhere. You tend to drop the neceties of details when you're panicked and/or rushed.
I have to say that Dora's eyes are getting to me in this one - the expression isn't changing. She's obviously fretting about Sam in the first few panels (first about the knife, then about her feelings), but in the last panel, the eyebrows have dropped, but the eyes... are still the same, and it's really hard to read what Jeph normally makes easy - her facial expression seems to involve a pretty heavy internal struggle.
So to those predicting a Doapocalypse, I say, nay! I think she's realizing that the welling feelings of mistrust and anger (or whatever she's feeling) are misplaced, inappropriate, and control-related.
I think she's actually going to have something to talk about with her therapist next time!
I know, I know, it doesn't make for a very exciting comic...
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... it's really hard to read what Jeph normally makes easy - her facial expression seems to involve a pretty heavy internal struggle.
I'd say Jeph depicted it, and you read it, perfectly. He does nuances of expression really well.
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I think she might just get a little annoyed with Jim - I don't think there will be a, how did people put it? A Dorasaurus?
I do think that she will ask him or tell him to next time just tell her that he's going on a date for courtesy's sake.
I know it's perfectly reasonable to think that he is on a romantic type date, but remember that Sam is only what, 12 years old? It could be that Jim is at a business meeting with a female that Sam ASSUMES is a potential romantic partner, but in reality is just a business partner. ( It's one thing to ask a random person that you've met and had dinner with one time to baby sit your kid for a business meeting, another thing entirely for that same one dinner date person to baby sit your kid while you are on a date. Which brings up the point that possibly if he were on a romantic date with someone, I would think he would ask a family friend who was closer to babysit Sam, rather than Dora. )
I hope that made sense. - -;
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I think this will be an interesting kind of test run for Dora. If she can keep rational control of herself she will have grown...if she behaves like she did with Marten then she might well be napalming bridges.
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I think the concept of the lie of omission just gets applied in places where it shouldn't.
In a situation where you have a moral or social obligation to inform somebody of something that is clearly understood by both parties and you don't then that's blatant dishonesty. You've deceived as surely through your silence as you could through your spoken words.
A situation like this though, well it just plain doesn't apply. It's not a lie of omission. It's just not telling her something. Being less informative than maximally possible.
This.
To clarify: I once had a friend ask me for a loan because they were having financial issues and were about to lose their car. What they didn't tell me is the reason they were having financial issues was that they were helping a serial adulterer and deadbeat dad pay his child support to get out of jail. (Disclaimer: Deadbeat Dude was the kind of irresponsible crap that causes the rest of us men so much hell having to prove that we aren't them, so I feel justified for wanting to let him rot in jail. You'd likely understand too if you knew him.)
This of of course irked me greatly when I eventually found out the truth about how the loan I gave was being used. I thought I was helping a friend meet their responsibilities, but was in actuality instead helping a deadbeat avoid theirs.
This is an example of a lie by omission, as crucial information that would have affected my decision was deliberately left out of the request for help.
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Why doesn't what Jim did count as being as horribad? Because he's not in a relationship with Dora. Now, if he were at least even casually "seeing her" and then also asking her to watch his kid so he could go on a date with another woman? Yeah, that would be bad. It is a bit tacky to show up like he did if he actually is going on a date (just reschedule it, if the lady is interested and not a psycho hose beast, she'll understand) but short notice and desperation make odd bedfellows at times.
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Honestly... I feel like its a lie of omission. The kid said "He didn't want me to tell you that." The intent is written all over it - this was information that he wanted to avoid sharing, not information that he forgot to share. That being said, Dora typically would not be affected (they are not together after all), but I feel since he dropped his kid off with her, he owes it to her to be more honest. Would I babysit an ex-date's kid if I thought he had work related or even family related affairs? Sure. Date related? I don't think so. I think even if there was no feelings there, it is still imposing to put me in a situation where I'd be used like that; if I agreed upon a date in the first place, there is the possibility of me still liking him. It is rude that just because she can't see him right away he gets to ask a huge favour of her while deceiving her. And yes, kids are a huge favour. Kid gets hurt at her work, and she can get sued. Nobody wants to feel rejected like that, even if they weren't too interested in the first place. He really should have found an alternative babysitter. I know that they are "friends" and work partners, but there are some situations you don't put certain people in.
Overall, its an awkward situation and he should be responsible for his offspring. Delay the date, find alternatives... But don't put people doing you a favour into positions where they (like Dora) can be hurt by the truth.
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I'm gonna guess ("predict" is too dignified a word for what I'm doing) that further story developments from here will have more to do with Dora's efforts to strike a balance as to how much control she wants/needs to exert over her surroundings, than to any bad intent or lack thereof on Jim's part. Really, the worst he's done so far is maybe not make the best choice in resolving a sudden situation, and it's a side issue, in my mind.
Unless it turns out that Jim's the kind of person who's used to charming people into giving him what he wants. I pick up a little of that in what Jeph's presented thus far. Or maybe I'm projecting my dislike of that sort of person onto a cartoon character.
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I wonder if Jeph could go in this direction:
(a) Jim, older, wiser, is okay with Dora not being ready for a relationship;
(b) can perceive that Dora might get upset if she knows he's on a date when she's watching his kid;
(c) therefore, if Dora gets upset, he can say: well, there ya go. That's why I didn't want to tell you; because you're upset!
Hmmm. There's something wrong in that sequence somewhere, but I'm too cold-addled to figure it out.
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It is similar to this:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1325
But, Jim could have avoided it all by just rescheduling, and should have done that instead of doing what he did. Marten had it dumped in his lap.
*edit for spelling. Argh.
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Not really similar, because Jim is actually doing something which could be seen as affecting Dora, and not telling her (though we don't agree on whether that should matter, as they aren't in a relationship); whereas Marten didn't do anything at all, but merely didn't bother to report something that someone else (Cosette) did.
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The difference is Dora specifically asked Marten if anything happened, and he deliberately didn't tell her. She overreacted, sure, but I wouldn't say he "didn't do anything at all". Jim on the other hand came in and said he had plans, which is true, if non-specific, and Dora didn't ask what they were. If Dora had casually asked what he was up to and he'd lied, well...that'd be another can of worms*.
*Why is that a saying?
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It's similar in that both deal with sharing information with Dora that could cause her to get upset. How each guy got into that situation and how they dealt with it do differ though. Marten tried to avoid it when directly asked about it (spectacular backfire!), and Jim...well, given that we do not have a camera inside that character's head to get an omniscient view of his motivations for omitting the info, could have simply felt that the specifics were not important/relevant enough to share with "just a friend".
Still not the best of ways to handle the situation though....since it didn't need to happen that way.
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Things happen to you all the day; too much to tell your partner, on any ordinary day, even when asked. Yes, Cosette asking Marten out was a tad unusual - but it was the kind of mistake he could just have shrugged off and forgotten about; in fact he got momentarily flustered, but even so, all he did was say, "no, I'm already taken". I don't see that not mentioning that is any kind of subterfuge at all - just a missed opportunity to let Dora feel good about getting dibs on a man who seems slightly popular.
In Jim's case, he has shown a little more awareness of the potential for upset (even if not really justified) by mentioning to Sam that she shouldn't tell. Although it's not really a big deal, he is being a bit thoughtless using Dora to babysit on this occasion.
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Things happen to you all the day; too much to tell your partner, on any ordinary day, even when asked.
*snipped for brevity
Yes, that would be the reasonable way for things to be. :/
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If I was to inform my significant other every time someone showed an interest in my availability then while it would not be a daily conversation it would likely be at least a bi-weekly conversation. In my opinion Marten did nothing wrong when he did not tell her about Cossette asking him out because it honestly was a thing of no concern.
Jim is not really in the wrong for asking Dora to babysit either. It appeared to be a last ditch effort to avoid rescheduling, and though it may be a bit socially awkward she did agree to it and had to know that was at the very least a possibility.
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On a completely different topic: I wonder if Sam will end up learning how to dual-wield the broadsword and the battle spatula at the same time? Just to transition from the angsty drama that Dora may be headed for.
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Who would teach her martial arts?
Momo might have a module for that.
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Who would teach her martial arts?
Momo might have a module for that.
She knows Kendo!! (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1485)
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Who would teach her martial arts?
No one in their right mind. She's dangerous enough as it is.
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COMIC!
Sounds like Jim is naturally a bit over-protective, but can be brought round!
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No Dorasaurus yet! I was expecting at least some kind of angry-but-really-really-trying-to-reign-it-in face, somewhere in the background. Instead, Faye makes an excellent babysitter.
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I wonder if Jim will think twice before asking Dora about babysitting again. :-D
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"You put my daughter's safety at risk but now she can make me alcoholic drinks so it's ok."
Is that normal?
(still kinda funny tho)
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Dora may have suddenly had pressing business in the alley as soon as she saw Jim coming.
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COMIC!
Sounds like Jim is naturally a bit over-protective, but can be brought round!
Or bought a round.
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"You put my daughter's safety at risk but now she can make me alcoholic drinks so it's ok."
Is that normal?
(still kinda funny tho)
Does CoD have a liquor license?
Yes, that bothered me too. Anything for a laugh? My opinion of Jim has dropped a little anyway.
EDIT: Jeph says on Twitter that she's twelve. Maybe it's twelve-and-a-large-fraction, which Jim rounded up to thirteen when talking to Dora.
Anyone else bothered by the idea that a 12-year-old can't sharpen a knife safely?
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Is that something I was supposed to learn as a kid? I'm 24, and I've yet to have a reason to need to sharpen a knife, so I've yet to learn how.
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Who would teach her martial arts?
Momo might have a module for that.
Haha, grasshopper need not martial arts. Grasshopper has psychotic insanity. Psychotic insanity is all grasshopper needs to defeat Battle Armor Pintsize.
No, Faye probably taught Sam how to make something that most would never divulge the secret processes of to a child, much less a stranger's child. It is the perfect batch of...
Sweet Tea.
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Does CoD have a liquor license?
Yes, that bothered me too. Anything for a laugh? My opinion of Jim has dropped a little anyway.
Anyone else bothered by the idea that a 12-year-old can't sharpen a knife safely?
I can't imagine that you need a liquor license for your personal stash in a back room.
I was strangely unbothered, to be honest.
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Sounds like a job for the Emergency Bourbon.
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Is that something I was supposed to learn as a kid? I'm 24, and I've yet to have a reason to need to sharpen a knife, so I've yet to learn how.
Meh, I think it depends on where and how you were raised. For instance, in Alabama most of us already learned how to drive a car by the time we're 10 years old. Some other states believe it's illegal to just let a child sit in the drivers seat even without keys in the ignition. Also, if you were raised doing a lot of hunting, or just living in a rural area, you kinda pick up on how to sharpen knives, and any other kind of blade for that matter.
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*Ahem*
Excuse me for bringing this up, but has anyone here considered that 'Old Fashioned' might just mean an Old Fashioned Lemonade?
Thank you for your time.
*Bows and walks offstage*
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Didn't know lemonade was brown. Or served in a whiskey glass.
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*Ahem*
Excuse me for bringing this up, but has anyone here considered that 'Old Fashioned' might just mean an Old Fashioned Lemonade?
Thank you for your time.
*Bows and walks offstage*
Damn, I never thought of that.
(turns to a group of ninjas) False alarm guys. Turns out she didn't teach them how to make sweet tea after all.
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Lemonade isn't what it used to be, clearly. :)
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*Ahem*
Excuse me for bringing this up, but has anyone here considered that 'Old Fashioned' might just mean an Old Fashioned Lemonade?
Thank you for your time.
*Bows and walks offstage*
No. Sorry, but an "Old-fashioned" is a well known and fairly well-defined alcoholic drink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Fashioned).
Dora's dealing with her inner demons at the moment, no time for interacting with others, especially a PO'd father.
Besies, Faye's got it under control, which is good, because soon Dora won't...
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I find Jim's reaction to Faye letting his daughter use knives and a blowtorch amusing if misguided. How is she supposed to learn how to handle potentially hazardous tools safely if she is never allowed to touch them? When I was her age I was helping my grandparents butcher livestock. Kids can learn how to do a lot (safely) if you actually take the time to teach them how...
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^ I agree with above comment. If anything, it's best that she tried out all these things in Faye's presence, who seems at least somewhat experienced with them and how to do them safely (given that she hasn't maimed herself yet). Better that than having a curious kid randomly get her hands on dangerous tools herself and use them without supervision.
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Is that something I was supposed to learn as a kid? I'm 24, and I've yet to have a reason to need to sharpen a knife, so I've yet to learn how.
I would sharpen a chisel on an oiled stone at Sam's age, helping my mother build a dinghy. At 24 I was married, and would sharpen the carving knife with a steel at the dining table before cutting the roast; indeed, I still do that - and keeping kitchen (or any) knives sharp is a given, as blunt knives are unpredictable and dangerous.
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I find Jim's reaction to Faye letting his daughter use knives and a blowtorch amusing if misguided.
Yes, but this is the guy who doesn't even want his daughter walking home by herself from her mother's house.
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COMIC!
Sounds like Jim is naturally a bit over-protective, but can be brought round!
Or bought a round.
Damn, you beat me to it.
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Did anyone else notice how Sam told her Dad that Faye taught her to *use* a blowtorch and *sharpen* knives, but he replied back that Faye allowed her to *play* with them? I'm probably reading too much into word choice, but perhaps that seems like he's thinking of her like a child running with scissors rather than a girl entering (or about to enter) her teenage years. But then to turn around and be ok with her fixing a cocktail seems weird.
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Maybe he's an easy drunk?
Personally, I would rather my teenager (should I ever dare to have a kid at all) to learn the safe usage of a blowtorch or knife sharpening, than the responsible service of alcohol. Or to put it another way: What's more responsible, teaching your kid to safely handle tools, heat and sharp objects, or how to pour a drink?
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I love how Faye is completely unfazed by Jim's (over)reaction.
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Maybe he's an easy drunk?
Personally, I would rather my teenager (should I ever dare to have a kid at all) to learn the safe usage of a blowtorch or knife sharpening, than the responsible service of alcohol. Or to put it another way: What's more responsible, teaching your kid to safely handle tools, heat and sharp objects, or how to pour a drink?
Nope, a responsible parent ensures that the offspring can do it all.
Safely use knives and axes - check
Properly pour a beer for Dad - check
Ride bike, sans training wheels - check (for 2 out of three ATM)
Know what the effects of alcohol are, etc. - check
Able to think for self - Still working on that one.
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@ Jabberwocky: She has seen intense reactions before.
And I dunno about the blowtorch (at least she did not let Sam handle the arc welder) but 12-nearly-13 sounds fine for learning how to properly sharpen a knife.
And the cocktail's a sort of easy gag. But apparently they pour one damn fine Old Fashioned... I still get the feeling that Faye is not going to get recruited by Big Sisters any time soon :-D
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I was remarking on the different points of view - Sam was excited that she was learning new things. Jim thought she was just playing around. Is that a father-daughter thing? Or an older generational thing? Or just me? I guess I resonated to it oddly.
Actually, learning the responsible use of alcohol is probably a good thing. But I don't think Faye is a good role model for that lesson.
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Nothing wrong with teaching the kid how to use that stuff.
Overprotective parents are frightened children themselves really.
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You know, blow-torches I can see a parent being uncomfortable around. He doesn't know the whole story or what Faye's qualifications or stances on safety protocols are. Heck, he might not even know exactly how safe a blow torch can be if you're using it right if he's never had the need or opportunity to be around them. They're not usually a normal part of the workplace environment.
The knife remark though. All I can think is that if she hasn't been allowed to use the sharp knives yet, then it's really no wonder that when he leaves her alone to make dinner for herself she sets the place on fire.
All in all I'm interested to learn more about this guy. He seems he's got it all together, but then again so does Dora. Seems a little scatterbrained at times too. He can run a business pretty well but his personal life seems to lack that same level of organization and attentiveness. I suspect that his apparent maturity might also be a bit misleading. Just because he's got the extra years doesn't actually mean he's got romance or interpersonal interaction worked out any better than Dora or Marten.
Looking forward to seeing more of the kid too.
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Personally I find it strange that Faye would show a child how to mix a drink. That's crossing a line. You don't know if alcoholism runs in the kid's family or not. Teaching the proper using tools to someone else's kid is one thing but alcohol and someone else's children... you just should not go there. It's not someone else's call to introduce alcohol to my kids, even if they aren't sampling it.
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The only way I can find Jim's reaction understandable is from what his daughter did to the kitchen in her first appearance: the stove covered in fire extinguisher foam. Plus diving off a cliff to capture a snake. If I had a daughter who was kinda accident- and disaster-prone, I might immediately assume the worst about knives and blowtorches.
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Would it be wrong to make a word filter that changed "expresso" to "espresso" just because that mistake bothers me more than it should?
Note that Sam uses "expresso" in today's comic (2180 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2180)), and that Jeph has tweeted (https://twitter.com/#!/jephjacques/status/198307597772795904) that it was deliberate (the tweet where he says she's twelve, when Jim told Dora she was thirteen).
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What's next in Samantha's "mentoring" by Faye?
Learning ALL THE CUSS WORDS! 4 (6.5%)
Shopping at the local second-hand store for goofy hats! 1 (1.6%)
Burning down an apartment with only a toaster! 3 (4.8%)
AnthroPC tossing for fun and profit! 0 (0%)
The Barista Sneer(tm) 15 (24.2%)
Playing left field for the Northampton Bonercats Kickball League! 0 (0%)
Bourbon-flavored Milkshakes! 0 (0%)
Snark 101! 12 (19.4%)
Leading a boy on while moving in with him platonically. 9 (14.5%)
Spathe Ham! 0 (0%)
Boobs! 2 (3.2%)
Butts! 0 (0%)
Knees! (Oh wait, this isn't Bloom County... never mind) 2 (3.2%)
How to drive your boss crazy in three simple steps! 5 (8.1%)
Tracking the elusive PIZZA GIRL! 9 (14.5%)
Total Members Voted: 62
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Would it be wrong to make a word filter that changed "expresso" to "espresso" just because that mistake bothers me more than it should?
Note that Sam uses "expresso" in today's comic (2180 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2180)), and that Jeph has tweeted (https://twitter.com/#!/jephjacques/status/198307597772795904) that it was deliberate (the tweet where he says she's twelve, when Jim told Dora she was thirteen).
Right, she's a kid who's really excited, so he intentionally made her say the wrong word. To be honest, when I saw his tweet about it, it was the first time I actually thought something in the comic might have been ripped from the forums.
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Regardless of whether or not it was 'responsible' of Faye to teach Sam to pour that drink, based on her lack of reaction to Jim's rage and then her quick uptake of the business deal, I'd say she's an evil genius who knew exactly what she was doing. There was no way Sam wasn't going to be so super excited and tell her dad what she did, so Faye prepared for it. Classic shit sandwich.
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Faye was setting a great example for Sam by showing her that a woman can make metal things.
Not so much so in potentially giving her the idea that it's normal to have a stash of a mind-altering drug at work.
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Would it be wrong to make a word filter that changed "expresso" to "espresso" just because that mistake bothers me more than it should?
Note that Sam uses "expresso" in today's comic (2180 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2180)), and that Jeph has tweeted (https://twitter.com/#!/jephjacques/status/198307597772795904) that it was deliberate (the tweet where he says she's twelve, when Jim told Dora she was thirteen).
Right, she's a kid who's really excited, so he intentionally made her say the wrong word. To be honest, when I saw his tweet about it, it was the first time I actually thought something in the comic might have been ripped from the forums.
I would say the RMS Pedantic has run up on the iceberg of Jeph's scorn.
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I align with DSL's thinking here... This arc, amusing anecdotes about Faymantha aside, is about Dora and her reactions to stuff.
Someone quoted Sam's line "He didn't want me to tell you that," ... without following up with what I think is the more important part of that strip: "...but if you're friends it's okay, right?"
to which Dora responded "Absolutely."
From the mouths of babes, right? This is a profound and unexpected, if unintended on Sam's part, challenge to Dora's entire mindset and her response may or may not signal an epiphany... we'll find out Monday
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Personally I find it strange that Faye would show a child how to mix a drink. That's crossing a line. You don't know if alcoholism runs in the kid's family or not. Teaching the proper using tools to someone else's kid is one thing but alcohol and someone else's children... you just should not go there. It's not someone else's call to introduce alcohol to my kids, even if they aren't sampling it.
I agree. This is what bothered me about today's strip. Teaching a kid skills that could potentially be useful is one thing, but alcohol's a little different and I'd personally be more upset about that than the dang blowtorch.
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lol forum
by the by
Anybody else think it´s kind of weird to be babysitted at all above 10 years of age?
On second thought Samantha does have a record of reckless behaviour.
Still weird, though.
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Faye was setting a great example for Sam by showing her that a woman can make metal things.
Not so much so in potentially giving her the idea that it's normal to have a stash of a mind-altering drug at work.
Yeah, like coffee or tea. Oh, wait...
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Anybody else think it´s kind of weird to be babysitted at all above 10 years of age?
In Britain there is no law on the matter, but a government web site (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/parents/yourchildshealthandsafety/yourchildssafetyinthehome/dg_070594) quotes the following:
* children under the age of about 12 are rarely mature enough to be left alone for a long period of time
* children under the age of 16 should not be left alone overnight
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I kind of see the alcohol thing as-
Faye: *thinking* geez, this is easier than I thought it'd be. I'm gonna have a drink to celebrate!
*fixes drink*
Sam: *notices* Watcha doing? Can I see? Can I try?
Faye, by now imagining Sam as her little protege, and perhaps knowing the ability of an unwatched Sam to create havoc, lets her watch and explains she's making a drink. Or Sam just bypassed asking and watched.
Jim shows up, freaks over Sam doing dangerous stuff
Sam: *thinks* Hmm, dad likes drinks, right?
Sam goes and duplicates what she saw Faye doing earlier, figuring (correctly) that it would make her dad calm down a bit, paradoxically.
So Faye didn't show her drink-mixing as part of the "let's play around with dangerous stuff!" daycare program, but she decided to make a drink...perhaps when she came back from that restroom break, figuring Sam is still sharpening with Dora watching her, and found a kid next to her watching the alcohol making.
I'd like to point out that if you try to hide something from a kid, they will be ten times more interested in it. So rather than slipping the alcohol behind her, she said "Making a drink. This is an old-fashioned."
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Well, I once taught one of my nieces how to mix a proper Vodka Martini.
She was 10 or 11, if I recall correctly, and she was the only person in the party who wasn't legally able to drink alcohol. She was also very bored. So I made her the bartender, gave her an apron and some recipes, showed her how to handle all the stuff, and promised her by the end of the night I'd mix her a grown-up drink.
She enjoyed the job and the party was a success: from that day onward she became interested in the art of mixing cocktails and now she works at a fancy bar (she turned 19 last month). To this day, her mother doesn't know whether thank me or hate me with all her soul.
And the drink I mixed her that day?
A Shirley Temple. :roll:
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I had a similar experience, from the other side. My father was a plant maitenance manager for a large industrial corporation, and from my ages of 12 to 16, I bartended the anual party he threw at our home.
One of the VP's, named Walter, really liked my Harvey Wallbangers. :-D
I also "invented" what I liked to call a left-handed screwdriver; vodka and grapefruit juice, with a dash of grenadine to cut the sourness.
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And the drink I mixed her that day?
A Shirley Temple. :roll:
Well played Mr. Vancouver.
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Remember what those did to Raven (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=487#).
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Remember what those did to Raven (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=487#).
Could it not just be assumed that such resulted from the power of suggestion. Of course, this is coming from a person who spent most of his life avoiding the consumption of Root Beer and Ginger Ale, just because their names involve the words beer and ale.
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thatsthejoke.jpg :-D
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The ability to follow any recipe is a useful life skill!
the ability to placate your father is just an added bonus...
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Personally I find it strange that Faye would show a child how to mix a drink. That's crossing a line. You don't know if alcoholism runs in the kid's family or not. Teaching the proper using tools to someone else's kid is one thing but alcohol and someone else's children... you just should not go there. It's not someone else's call to introduce alcohol to my kids, even if they aren't sampling it.
For all we know, arson or knife crime runs in the family...
I agree. This is what bothered me about today's strip. Teaching a kid skills that could potentially be useful is one thing, but alcohol's a little different and I'd personally be more upset about that than the dang blowtorch.
You don't think the ability to mix drinks is a potentially useful skill?
Arson and stabbing tendencies are considerably less likely to run in the gene pool than alcoholism.
And recipes in general, sure, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say she would have been able to live a happy life if she postponed the drink-making skills a couple more years.
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Seems like there's something missing in learning a skill that you can't enjoy the benefits of.
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The approval of others may be a benefit that you appreciate, though.
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Seems like there's something missing in learning a skill that you can't enjoy the benefits of.
That kind of describes the last couple of years at my last job.
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Seems like there's something missing in learning a skill that you can't enjoy the benefits of.
My niece enjoyed the benefits:
Tips! lots of tips! Then she got a job she enjoys. It just took a few years to get 'em all.
And she's making more money than me now, mainly because I'm studying full-time and working part-time while she's studying part-time and working full-time. (Trust me, when drunk, never bet you can study a second engineering degree. If I graduate, I'll win about ten thousand dollars; if I don't, I lose them)
You learn a skill; then, perhaps, enjoy the final product or change it for other products or services.
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I suspect that somewhere between Thursday's knife-sharpening and Dad's arrival, Sam mentioned something to Faye that "dad's probably not gonna like all this stuff you've shown me."
And Faye, being Faye, asked, "Hm. Does he like a certain kind of drink?"
"Well, he's always saying he likes something called an 'Old-Fashioned'."
"Hey, that's an easy one...."
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Seems like there's something missing in learning a skill that you can't enjoy the benefits of.
The demonstrated ability to pacify an angry father with a well mixed drink is a pretty good benefit I'd think.
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You'd think he'd be grateful for the War Ladle, given how far behind his shop is in the arms race.
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You'd think he'd be grateful for the War Ladle, given how far behind his shop is in the arms race.
Nah, I think they're hiding their weapons. After all, what was that thing that could spontaneously combust? You know, they brought it up when we first saw the Secret Bakery.
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The giant blender thing. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1845)
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They are enriching weapons grade flour to make pastries of mass destruction.
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Or fuel-air bombs.
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You guessed it: What was the MOMENT OF THE WEEK?
"So, little larva..." I'm not a larva! "...Wanna learn how to use a BLOWTORCH?" YES 5 (11.9%)
BEHOLD THE MIGHTY WAR LADLE (I'd wanna see the Attenborough documentary) 11 (26.2%)
I'll mold you in my image. "You mean, like, big boobs?" 4 (9.5%)
"He didn't want me to tell you that, but if you're friends it's okay, right?" ABSOLUTELY 6 (14.3%)
Faye taught me how to use a blowtorch, and make expresso, and sharpen knives, and - 3 (7.1%)
Of all the irresponsible- 1 (2.4%)
So, I usually pay my sitter ten bucks an hour - (Fifteen.) Deal. Take a check? 12 (28.6%)
Total Members Voted: 42