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Comic Discussion => QUESTIONABLE CONTENT => Topic started by: jwhouk on 12 Aug 2012, 04:47
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And we're back - even if I gotta type this on a different machine (RIP Gateway 4010GT).
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Noooo!
What happened to it?
Did you download a virus?
Did you download 423,827 viruses?
I don't like how the poll is something like 20:80 for bad/neutral outcomes:good outcomes. But then, this IS QC... :P
But I predict a nice, sunny future. Not because I think that's what will happen, but because I think they both need it.
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Malware won't destroy a computer (unless you're running 95, 98, or Me, and you get infected by the CIH/Chernobyl virus, and your machine has a certain type of BIOS, and even then, the physical chip could still be removed, reflashed in an EEPROM programmer, and then reinstalled).
Also, one more vote for a bad outcome.
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I bought the thing in '04 and it was running XPSP3. You do the math.
Oh, and the worst thing, WAYF?
...My iTunes library is essentially unusable now, since my iPod (not the Touch) isn't "linked" to this computer.
No listening to "One More Minute" on here. :(
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Awwww.
I had the same problem upgrading to this computer. Apart from anything else, it's Vista.
:( :( :( :( :(
But also, my iPod would no longer sync with it. I have to transfer any and all new music across to my old computer (which is on the verge of death) and then sync.
iPods are apparently not built for, shall we say, general compatibility.
I'll acknowledge your Weird Al reference if somebody acknowledges my Homestar Runner reference. :P
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Is the HDD still good? If so, you can copy the files over, I believe, then authorize the new computer for your library.
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The hard drive should still be in good condition. And lucky me backed it all up onto an external drive a week or so ago. Only thing is, puter I'm on right now has half the capacity.
I'm going to talk to the local computer repair guys about possibly seeing about getting it turned into an external drive, where I can hook it up to a new computer.
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All you need is a HDD enclosure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_enclosure
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The apple support site has instructions for moving iTunes libraries between computers… but I guess they sort of expect that the source comp is actually alive at the time.
Edit: Lots of instructions (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=apple+support+itunes+library+transfer). :-o
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I'm hoping that tomorrow's comic is going to be Gabby and Marten talking for a couple of panels just to hear Momo shout "NO!", an offside flash and Emily flying across the room in the last panel! :-D :evil:
As for Tai and Dora, the phrase "The candle that burns twices as bright lasts half as long." just keeps going around and around in the back of my mind.
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What if the candle has twice the fuel?
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The hard drive should still be in good condition. And lucky me backed it all up onto an external drive a week or so ago. Only thing is, puter I'm on right now has half the capacity.
I'm going to talk to the local computer repair guys about possibly seeing about getting it turned into an external drive, where I can hook it up to a new computer.
As was said earlier, disk enclosure.
If your new computer has USB 3.0 (on Windows machines, it's a blue USB port, on Macs, it is if it's one of the laptops released in June), get an enclosure with that. If it doesn't, then it depends on what ports your computer has. eSATA is a good one, FireWire is OK, USB 2.0 will work but is suboptimal. (If your computer doesn't have USB 3.0, a USB 3.0 enclosure will still work, but it'll act like a USB 2.0 one. eSATA and FireWire require those ports to be present, and it's hit or miss whether they're present on a random computer, which is why USB 3.0 is preferred - it'll work on just about anything.)
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What if the candle has twice the fuel?
Then it's not a candle, it's a lantern.
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And we're back - even if I gotta type this on a different machine (RIP Gateway 4010GT).
Since there have been a number of comments here, I have started a "Dead And Dying Computers" thread in CLIKC.
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I'm hoping Tai and Dora last long enough to have on-screen lovin' and inspire a massive forum shitstorm. Everything after that is just gravy. 8-)
(to forego any rightful harrumphing from ye mods, I give my word of honor I have learned my lesson and shall simply sit on the sidelines giggling like an idiot at the chaos rather than wade into the fray.)
Noooo!
What happened to it?
Did you download a virus?
Did you download 423,827 viruses?
While I grieve for jwhouk's machine, too, I must say that this quote, in addition to the cut of your jib, makes me like the sound of your town.
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I lol'd at the series of questions. But I suspect the root of the problem is it being a Gateway :psyduck:
Brand dislike aside, 8 years for a computer isn't a bad run, imo.
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I'm hoping Tai and Dora last long enough to have on-screen lovin' and inspire a massive forum shitstorm. Everything after that is just gravy. 8-)
(to forego any rightful harrumphing from ye mods, I give my word of honor I have learned my lesson and shall simply sit on the sidelines giggling like an idiot at the chaos rather than wade into the fray.)
When the chaos happens, can I sit next to you and watch it happen? I'll bring popcorn.
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I'll bring my chaos-powered popcorn popper and gumball* machine.
*Yes, gumballs, no, I don't know why. They just turn up at the bottom of the popcorn bucket.
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When the chaos happens, can I sit next to you and watch it happen? I'll bring popcorn.
Certainly! And Mr_Rose as well! It will be like watching a gladiatorial event, except instead of any slavery going on there will be dudes who "just registered because" or "never posted but", and they will be So Mad.
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That's funny, I haven't had any major issues with Gateways since I purchased my first one at a Gateway store back in the early days of Windoze XP. The issues my sister has had with her Dell computers, however...
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The answer is "never buy pre-built", clearly.
P.S. Dell only give a damn about your problems if you buy a support contract from them and no, the "free" guarantee doesn't count. Which is kind of annoying if you've ever experienced what they will do for you if you do have a real support contract with them.
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Dell's domestic and commercial computers are light-years apart, both in quality and in support. Both the reliability and the support (on the rare occasions it's been required) for the couple of hundred computers and servers I've been responsible for over the past nine years have been superb.
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Speaking of Dell, my laptop battery is fading out. Lasted two and a half years, and apparently time to toss more money Dell's way.
For the poll, if Jeph has no idea, neither do I. But I'm really really hoping it goes well for at least a few weeks (our time), if not quite barfing butterflies well.
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We might not even see Tai and Dora for a few days.
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By the way, completely aside from anything: I have figured out that we are about in the Dead Tree Version vicinity of QC Volume 8.
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The greater irony would be if it was Claire asking Momo to shock her.
I'm not entirely sure what kind of person voluntarily asks a robot to give them an electric shock.
But then, I'm one of those crazy people who likes their hair and heart-rate the way they are. :P
No listening to "One More Minute" on here. :(
I'll acknowledge your Weird Al reference if somebody acknowledges my Homestar Runner reference. :P
While I grieve for jwhouk's machine, too, I must say that this quote, in addition to the cut of your jib, makes me like the sound of your town.
That was a nice Weird Al reference, Jwhouk.
Just remember that when it comes to getting a new computer, it's all about the Pentiums.
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Code crackers, hackers... WHAT?
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Are we to be treated to the infamous Momo pinky touch?
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It would seem so. And Emily wants it. The girl has problems.
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Code crackers, hackers... WHAT?
And you are DEFINITELY wasting time with all the chatroom yackers. :P
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It looks like Jeph fixed the last panel of Friday's comic - no more missing skirt piece and hand!
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I can't say for certain I wouldn't have the same reaction.
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Ya get the feeling Emily might have been dropped on the head a few too many times as a kid? ;)
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Seems like Momo isn't programed with the famous Three Laws of Robotics. That is good because that creates too many loopholes but I wonder what they use to avoid dangerous behavior...
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Is it just me or does it look like Momo is shrinking? :psyduck:
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Seems like Momo isn't programed with the famous Three Laws of Robotics. That is good because that creates too many loopholes but I wonder what they use to avoid dangerous behavior...
Avoid? Are we reading the same strip?
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The prospects for Tai and Dora are...
Good. As in OTP good. As in "run off and get married" good. 4 (12.5%)
Yeah, they're gonna be a couple for a while. Then Tai goes off to another job. 3 (9.4%)
Won't last as long as Marten & Padma. 1 (3.1%)
It's one of those burn hot and fast kinda things. 7 (21.9%)
Never gets past Teh Kisses stage. 0 (0%)
Crashes and burns before it even takes off. 1 (3.1%)
Something's gotta give. What, I dunno. 2 (6.3%)
Emily does something to bollox it all up. 0 (0%)
Jeph don't know, and neither do I. 13 (40.6%)
Insert mandatory meme response here (spathe ham, waffles, BOOP, etc.) 1 (3.1%)
Total Members Voted: 32
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Ya get the feeling Emily might have been dropped on the head a few too many times as a kid? ;)
Dropped? She was bodyslammed and piledriven.
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What's with Momo's "new" neck seam? Her new chassis didn't show it when it was introduced in 2000, and even when she's fresh out of the shower in 2028 she doesn't have it.
Or is it a necklace/cord of some sort?
(Yes, I tend to notice little things like this and gotta ask why. :D )
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Is it just me or does it look like Momo is shrinking? :psyduck:
Yes
She's a Dimensomorph
Cue mandatory EMS visit for Emily
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Seems like Momo isn't programed with the famous Three Laws of Robotics. That is good because that creates too many loopholes but I wonder what they use to avoid dangerous behavior...
Welcome, new person!
Jeph said something the effect "It's fortunate that they like us". The ones with more prudence than Pintsize will avoid doing dangerous things because they don't want to and know better.
They may also be subject to the legal system.
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Note to self:
Never pinky-swear with Momo
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Speaking of Dell, my laptop battery is fading out. Lasted two and a half years, and apparently time to toss more money Dell's way.
Don't bother giving money to Dell, just buy a new battery from an online retailer, or even Amazon or Craigslist. No reason to pay more than you have to. Make sure to get an OEM battery, though! :)
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Emily, you're so dumb!
Well, more CloudCuckooLander maybe.
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That's some quality schmuck bait.
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Cue mandatory EMS visit for Emily
Paramedic 1: "AnthroPC-induced shock, huh Emily? That's the fifth time this month..."
Paramedic 2: "And we stopped by that coffee place you told us about last time and got you a banana smoothie."
Sorry, but you could just about see that happening, right?
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Okay, how does Emily even survive life? She's the ultimate adult-child.
....Or maybe she's Obfuscating Stupidity? Who knows? :-D
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Seems like Momo isn't programed with the famous Three Laws of Robotics. That is good because that creates too many loopholes but I wonder what they use to avoid dangerous behavior...
Welcome, new person!
Jeph said something the effect "It's fortunate that they like us". The ones with more prudence than Pintsize will avoid doing dangerous things because they don't want to and know better.
They may also be subject to the legal system.
Well, I read this webcomic for a loooong time (original style) but I also read many others... Anyway, there are militar robots but haven't heard of hitman robots...
Avoid? Are we reading the same strip?
Haven't heard about deaths caused by anthros yet, maybe they just remove the evidences and substitute them with an anthropc doppelgänger. Maybe Faye died in the fire and the one who moved to Marten is in fact the copy.
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Okay, how does Emily even survive life? She's the ultimate adult-child.
....Or maybe she's Obfuscating Stupidity? Who knows? :-D
Nothing lethal so far, just one painfull... and some people have fetish for some painfull things (electric shock included)
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It's no fun when they willingly want to be blown off their feet :c
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Seems like Momo isn't programed with the famous Three Laws of Robotics. That is good because that creates too many loopholes but I wonder what they use to avoid dangerous behavior...
Welcome, new person!
Jeph said something the effect "It's fortunate that they like us". The ones with more prudence than Pintsize will avoid doing dangerous things because they don't want to and know better.
They may also be subject to the legal system.
They would be - wasn't it mentioned some time ago that AnthroPCs were now regarded as full members of society? I'll se if I can find the strip.
EDIT: I seem to misremember. In Jeph's comment to this strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996), he explains a bit about AnthroPCs, and it looks like they might lack some basic rights.
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I am kind of surprised that Momo doesnt just apply the electric shock herself ... ? Oh well.
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Wonder if Momo can (or will) reduce the voltage?
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Oh boy, add masochist maybe to Emily's growing list of strange? :psyduck:
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
No, Emily and Momo are going to get together. And it's going to be shocking. 8-)
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
Doesn't look like it, no. But who knows? Apparently not even Jeph...
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I´m looking forward to seeing more of her. Kind of like the general idea of characters running loose inside of the creation :)
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
No, Emily and Momo are going to get together. And it's going to be shocking. 8-)
Penalty for lack of "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"
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Penalty for spouting half-dead memes. :mrgreen:
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And the award for Cloudcuckoolander of the Year goes to.... Emily! But seriously, it's weird how odd she is, but it's at a level where you'd almost call it adorable.
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
Nope, I suspect Emily may be a bit too strange for Marten's liking.
Ya get the feeling Emily might have been dropped on the head a few too many times as a kid? ;)
Or perhaps she stuck a metal fork in an electrical outlet as a toddler and has been...different ever since.
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Or she had a sudden epiphany when Marten told her to quit it. She decided fair's fair and she deserves it.
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Is anyone else hoping for another animated gif?
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Is anyone else hoping for another animated gif?
no ><
it fucks up when I'm trying to read on my mobile :~
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I am kind of surprised that Momo doesnt just apply the electric shock herself ... ? Oh well.
Maybe they are progammed to not cause direct harm to humans but there is no law saying that they can't fool a human for some pain.
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Reminded me of this:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_difference.png) (http://xkcd.com/242/)
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Jeph said "absolute free will".
They have equal legal rights to humans (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1900).
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Absolute free will is debatable, since humans might not even have that. Also is there any canon (in-comic) re: free will?
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I can't think of anything, but I'm not the ultimate archive master.
There is, in fact, a hint to the contrary. In 1345, Faye was under the impression that Pintsize had "morality programming". She may have been mistaken.
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Don't all of us recieve "morality programming" throughout most of our early life? To some extent, it never really stops, it's just less subtle. And clearly some of us have the free will to do some pretty amoral things, so our own programming is not set in stone; or at least we're capable of ignoring it.
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Don't all of us recieve "morality programming" throughout most of our early life? To some extent, it never really stops, it's just less subtle. And clearly some of us have the free will to do some pretty amoral things, so our own programming is not set in stone; or at least we're capable of ignoring it.
The capability to ignore moral programming is why I'm not so quick to blame the parents for a child's, especially a teenager's, criminal behavior. We may call it programming, but we're not robots, we are able to make up our own minds about the morals we're taught. Some decide those morals are crap and do their own thing.
Also, some people never get much moral programming, or get a different set of programming than the rest of us. For example, what kind of moral code do you think a kid growing up in an inner-city family of drug dealers is going to pick up?
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I am kind of surprised that Momo doesnt just apply the electric shock herself ... ?
Or that she needs physical contact, since a previous strip established that she could blow someone out of his shoes at a hundred metres! ZAP!!!
<rationalisation>The power needed to "jump" an lightning-bolt through air would be much greater, and perhaps less easy to control precisely, so for minor corporal punishment Momo prefers a contact-zap.</rationalisation>
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Maybe it's just more fun to trick people into it than to attack someone.
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If Momo really wanted to do some damage, she would show Emily the holopony she can never have.
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I don't think Momo is that cruel.
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Momo won't do it. She knows better.
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Don't all of us recieve "morality programming" throughout most of our early life? To some extent, it never really stops, it's just less subtle. And clearly some of us have the free will to do some pretty amoral things, so our own programming is not set in stone; or at least we're capable of ignoring it.
The capability to ignore moral programming is why I'm not so quick to blame the parents for a child's, especially a teenager's, criminal behavior. We may call it programming, but we're not robots, we are able to make up our own minds about the morals we're taught. Some decide those morals are crap and do their own thing.
Also, some people never get much moral programming, or get a different set of programming than the rest of us. For example, what kind of moral code do you think a kid growing up in an inner-city family of drug dealers is going to pick up?
Part of the "moral programming" is not learned, we are born with it... well, at least most are.
I could give you better sources but I'm lazy so you will get just the first google result
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/05/robot-altruism/
There are many other "programs" we are born with. People aren't a mass produced equipament with a formated HD just waiting to be programmed.
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We know Momo is one of the more "responsible" AnthroPCs in the comic, so she presumably knows there is a big difference between assaulting someone and defending yourself from harassment. As for her pinkie-shock technique, that's trickery, but its also something you see with siblings or some people, where someone says "I'm going to be kicking the air in front of me and if you get in the way it's your own fault." Emily has been warned what will happen but she is still going to try it. Again, that's Emily's own fault.
The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
A robot may not permanent injury to a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm (unless its the human's own fault and the possibility of permanent or fatal injury is negligible).
A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws (unless an individual is causing harm or distress to other human beings).
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The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
A robot may not permanent injury to a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm (unless its the human's own fault and the possibility of permanent or fatal injury is negligible).
A robot must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws (unless an individual is causing harm or distress to other human beings).
You know, that first law still can result in robots taking over the World to protect humans from harming each other... I guess Jeff never stated anything exactly because it is extremely hard to make laws without unwanted effects.
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I would daresay, for all the discussion I've seen over months of reading these forums, that there are no "three laws of robotics" or any such similar laws in effect, because Jeph simply treats all of the A.I.s in the comic, by and large, as if they were people. So they have the same kinds of ethical frameworks as people, with all of the associated ambiguities and potential flaws.
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I would daresay, for all the discussion I've seen over months of reading these forums, that there are no "three laws of robotics" or any such similar laws in effect, because Jeph simply treats all of the A.I.s in the comic, by and large, as if they were people. So they have the same kinds of ethical frameworks as people, with all of the associated ambiguities and potential flaws.
The problem is that they are sentient, but they also are products.
If you attack someone they will sue you, if your dog attack someone they will sue you, if an iPhone explodes and hurt someone they will sue Apple. If an AnthroPC hurt someone will they sue the AnthroPC, the owner or the maker?
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I can see Emily and Hannelore becoming good friends - which would lead to chaos beyond mortal comprehension. :evil:
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
Guh.
After the black Dora-lookalike the asian Dora-lookalike ?
And she's again an airhead on top of it, too !
I dont like the idea, but I dont dare to say "no".
To think Marten was once interested in girls like Faye before ...
The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
OMG can we PLEASE NOT GO THERE.
The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
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The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
OMG can we PLEASE NOT GO THERE.
The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
You know, those laws are needed exactly because Singularity happened and not the opposite.
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You know, those laws are needed exactly because Singularity happened and not the opposite.
So you say, but I don't see any evidence that they exist. These comics aren't created by Asimov. Jeph has even said somewhere (I don't remember where) that we are "lucky" the AIs like us - which is quite a long way from saying that they are bound by rules!
If you attack someone they will sue you, if your dog attack someone they will sue you, if an iPhone explodes and hurt someone they will sue Apple. If an AnthroPC hurt someone will they sue the AnthroPC, the owner or the maker?
I don't know, and neither do you. Maybe it depends on the circumstances?
I take it from the question that you are implying that the resulting ambiguity of the answer requires that the laws exist - I disagree, and what's more, I don't even necessarily agree that it implies that they should exist.
But regardless of what I may think, I just don't see any evidence that they do exist.
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Beyond being flat-chested, do Emily and Dora actually look alike? Because I thought Padma was really clearly Bizarro-Dora, but Emily doesn't seem much like Dora at all to me.
She is sort of like Padma in that they're both "wacky." But they're not the same there either: As I recall Padma was mostly oblivious to cues, bad at reading people, stuff like that. Emily is more interested in unusual experiences and has unusual desires, and is indifferent to others' expectations and norms.
Hm. Marten is passive, Dora is anxious, Faye is PTSD, Hanners is OCD, Marigold is social anxiety/avoidant I think. Emily is funny-eccentric, while Wil is dramatic-eccentric. Pintsize is a prankster, Clinton is a socially awkward fan/enthusiast, Sven is self-destructive, Padma is oblivious.
It takes a certain something to put together characters that have this mix of neuroses and write them reasonably consistently and sympathetically, and be funny. Observation of the human condition, with both enough sympathy to like these people and enough abstraction of self to torment them, play them off each other, and generally put them through stuff.
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I dont get Fayes statement "Not much of a pursuit, if you ask me".
The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
OMG can we PLEASE NOT GO THERE.
The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
You know, those laws are needed exactly because Singularity happened and not the opposite.
Drat.
And so I fueled the discussion I tried to stop !
Assimov has written many stories about the three laws. Basically one can summarize the result as: they just dont work. Neither will probably any other set of simple mechanical laws.
Fortunately, thanks to the singularity, robots are as intelligent as people now and can follow their own common sense.
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I think Faye said that because Dora didn't require too much chasing in the end.
And, Hannelore: go for it. Can I help? :-P
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I want to see a courtroom-based spin-off of QC now.
DORA BIANCHI: JUDGE, JURY AND SEXECUTIONER.
Or at the very least I'd like a poster with Dora and those words on it. :P
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The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
OMG can we PLEASE NOT GO THERE.
The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
You know, those laws are needed exactly because Singularity happened and not the opposite.
How is it that almost no-one remembers that nearly every three laws robot story is an illustration of at least one case where the three laws have failed utterly? Asimov's Laws are a plot device, not a practical suggestion.
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That said the way Jeph is handling A.I.s in QC is probably the most comfortable one. Positive emotions (empathy, understanding, forgiveness) are always stronger and more enjoyable than negative ones. (anxiety, greed, hate)
I guess for any A.I. it would simply be logical to pursue positive human interactions (e.g. having fun with them) more than negative ones (e.g. enslaving them).
In that way, the dilemma inherent in Asimov's three laws kinda takes care of itself in QC.
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Also I lol'd at Hanners in the last panel. She really doesn't want to do it but is bound by the shop policy. Turning the rule against the ruler must be impossibly baffling to her.
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Have we seen that customer before? He looks familiar.
Does Dora look younger because she's happy, or am I just imagining it?
Word Of God on AnthroPC ethics programming (http://jephjacques.com/post/10973725252/qa-dump-06). "Love your neighbor as yourself" is a perfectly cromulent basis for an ethical system.
That's a really good question about liability laws. The QC world has probably tried multiple approaches. Who would write liability insurance to cover acts of Pintsize?
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Yay Hannelore's back, she will always be my favourite QC character,
And haha, i wish i had a store policy like that, hell i have business plans for the future, I am going to have a store policy like that.
And yes, I've seen that customer before, hell i thought it was Angus for a few moments then realised it's just someone who looks similar.
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I would daresay, for all the discussion I've seen over months of reading these forums, that there are no "three laws of robotics" or any such similar laws in effect, because Jeph simply treats all of the A.I.s in the comic, by and large, as if they were people. So they have the same kinds of ethical frameworks as people, with all of the associated ambiguities and potential flaws.
And of course, remember that the first thing the first AI asked for was equality (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2085).
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There are no Three Laws in QC for the same reason there were no tribbles on the space station, or an Eagle Transporter docked thereto: They belong to different fictional universes.
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Also, Dora's comment reminded me of this comic (1946) (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1946) ... a lot of refreshing changes of pace for Dora lately... lucky gal. And cute hair.
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Am I a bad person that my first reaction on reaching the punchline of today's comic was "Woo! Wet T-shirt!"?
Then the second reaction was, "B---, its a comic..."
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Have we seen that customer before? He looks familiar.
Does Dora look younger because she's happy, or am I just imagining it?
Word Of God on AnthroPC ethics programming (http://jephjacques.com/post/10973725252/qa-dump-06). "Love your neighbor as yourself" is a perfectly cromulent basis for an ethical system.
That's a really good question about liability laws. The QC world has probably tried multiple approaches. Who would write liability insurance to cover acts of Pintsize?
It's the hair style. Dora looks sexy with it.
Well, there's the whole just "nice to be pursued" thing. :psyduck: I'll refrain from saying more on that as it pretty much mirrors what I've been saying. That this is the relationship for getting back in the game and not anything lasting.
That said.
HANNERS! Perfect expression for that statement.
And it really wasn't that much of a pursuit
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Well, there's the whole just "nice to be pursued" thing. :psyduck: I'll refrain from saying more on that as it pretty much mirrors what I've been saying. That this is the relationship for getting back in the game and not anything lasting.
Dora may view it that way (or feel that way), but I'm pretty sure that Tai doesn't feel that way.
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Also, some people never get much moral programming, or get a different set of programming than the rest of us. For example, what kind of moral code do you think a kid growing up in an inner-city family of drug dealers is going to pick up?
...You don't want me to answer that question, because I know the answer all too well. (I work with them.)
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The prospects for Tai and Dora are...
Good. As in OTP good. As in "run off and get married" good. 9 (11.7%)
Yeah, they're gonna be a couple for a while. Then Tai goes off to another job. 7 (9.1%)
Won't last as long as Marten & Padma. 5 (6.5%)
It's one of those burn hot and fast kinda things. 12 (15.6%)
Never gets past Teh Kisses stage. 1 (1.3%)
Crashes and burns before it even takes off. 1 (1.3%)
Something's gotta give. What, I dunno. 7 (9.1%)
Emily does something to bollox it all up. 1 (1.3%)
Jeph don't know, and neither do I. 27 (35.1%)
Insert mandatory meme response here (spathe ham, waffles, BOOP, etc.) 7 (9.1%)
Total Members Voted: 77
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Am I a bad person that my first reaction on reaching the punchline of today's comic was "Woo! Wet T-shirt!"?
Then the second reaction was, "B---, its a comic..."
Well, there's Jeph's title for the comic, and the fact that the hose isn't hooked up to a spigot. I think the jury's still out, and the judge and sexecutioner may also be if someone doesn't stop Hanners.
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Sexecutioner...I am going to remember that one 8-)
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Am I a bad person that my first reaction on reaching the punchline of today's comic was "Woo! Wet T-shirt!"?
Then the second reaction was, "B---, its a comic..."
Well, there's Jeph's title for the comic, and the fact that the hose isn't hooked up to a spigot. I think the jury's still out, and the judge and sexecutioner may also be if someone doesn't stop Hanners.
omg you're right, it's def a beating
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That's a really good question about liability laws. The QC world has probably tried multiple approaches. Who would write liability insurance to cover acts of Pintsize?
Robotic liability Insurance (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=125)
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Emily and Marten aren't going to get together are they
Guh.
After the black Dora-lookalike the asian Dora-lookalike ?
And she's again an airhead on top of it, too !
I dont like the idea, but I dont dare to say "no".
To think Marten was once interested in girls like Faye before ...
The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
OMG can we PLEASE NOT GO THERE.
The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
For one, pretty sure Padma was Indian and not black. Also, where's the indication that Marten has -any- romantic interest in Emily, or any of the other interns for that matter? Because he's talking to her or shares a panel with her? Cart in front of the horse, I'd say. I also don't see how Emily is a Dora clone - she's easily distinguishable from her. Is any female in the strip that you feel that Marten might hook up with a 'Dora clone'?
Anyway, someone asked who would be sued in the event of an anthroPC hurting someone. I imagine it would be the anthroPC they would sue - after all, the chassis is really just a shell for the 'intelligence' that inhabits it, and obviously they can own property, or at the very least stocks and financial materials if Station is anything to go by. So, being independent in their actions, and able to hold monetary property, I would say that yes, they would likely be the ones sued.
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Happy floaty Dora is nice to see, even if it doesn't last. (please let it last)
I agree, she does look younger when she is happy, even taking the hairstyle into account.
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I dont get Fayes statement "Not much of a pursuit, if you ask me".
The Three Laws of QC are probably written up like this;
OMG can we PLEASE NOT GO THERE.
The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
You know, those laws are needed exactly because Singularity happened and not the opposite.
Drat.
And so I fueled the discussion I tried to stop !
Assimov has written many stories about the three laws. Basically one can summarize the result as: they just dont work. Neither will probably any other set of simple mechanical laws.
Fortunately, thanks to the singularity, robots are as intelligent as people now and can follow their own common sense.
There is no such a thing as common sense or "good and evil" from a neutral point of view. And yes, a set of simple mechanical laws will never work. The problem is that they need some sort of ethical system to avoid some incidents where the best solution would involve hurting or killing a human. Maybe removing the "or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm" so if humans want to destroy each other is fine. or limit how many implications they would have to follow. Like stop imediate harm but not something like smoking or drinking too much.
Also, they would be really dangerous if they worked like humans, humans already are dangerous as they are.
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So many AnthroPCs are unemployed that they're probably "judgment-proof", a short term for having so little that suing them couldn't recover anything useful.
One logical and functional law would be to require AnthroPCs to carry liability insurance when they go out in public, as we require of human car drivers. But how would they pay for it? Would their "owners" pay the premiums as a gift?
There is of course no evidence that there's such a law in the QC universe.
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It's possible that the same criminal statutes and penalties that apply to humans applies to AIs.
The threat of imprisonment and loss of social status is just as motivating to them as to us.
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Asimov came to regard the original Three Laws, as presented to him by John Campbell, as inherently flawed. He tried to fix them by introducing the "Zeroth Law," in which the good of humanity take precedence over the Three Laws (which protect individual humans). That gave us a galaxy of humans ruled covertly by robot nannies.
But that's another fictional universe.
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Asimov came to regard the original Three Laws, as presented to him by John Campbell, as inherently flawed. He tried to fix them by introducing the "Zeroth Law," in which the good of humanity take precedence over the Three Laws (which protect individual humans). That gave us a galaxy of humans ruled covertly by robot nannies.
But that's another fictional universe.
Not to forget Xenocidal.
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Faye looks like she's lost some serious weight.
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So who's That Guy? That guy in the background of today's comic...he's been showing up as a background customer every now and then for years. Almost looks like Angus, but isn't him.
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Yeaaaaaah, this relationship is going to last like a supernova; twice as hot and last half as long.
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Faye looks like she's lost some serious weight.
Marten is overweight.
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The Singularity happends, robots are sentient and dont need a set of mechanical laws to control their actions.
Last I checked, we still do.
Hang on.
*Goes down to basement, screams can be heard, stop short.*
Yep, still do.
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We need another comic to restore sense to this thread.
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Floaty Dora
Interesting
Lets hope that Hanners only means spraying Dora, not hitting her.
That would be fatal
For Hanners
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Did Momo's pinky have anything to do with this?
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JephWatch: Still on a roll.
Hannelore was probably filling in for the role of Emily at CoD. It seems like the sort of thing she'd worry about.
Also, why does the lack of set date not surprise me at ALL? :P
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Naw Martin. Their heads totally would've 'sploded. Emily just averted a catastrophe.
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Dora and Tai go boom
And not in the way Tai would hope. :-D
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Dora and Tai go boom
And not in the way Tai would hope. :-D
When they really do bang, they'll prolly start a new universe in the process.
(hurr hurr astronomy + sex jokes hurr)
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It's possible that the same criminal statutes and penalties that apply to humans applies to AIs.
The threat of imprisonment and loss of social status is just as motivating to them as to us.
Personally I think some AIs like Pintsize would actually enjoy some time in prison. And imprisonment wouldn't matter much if you can put yourself on standby.
Be reprogramed would be a more practical alternative but that would bring many others things to discuss...
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(hurr hurr astronomy + sex jokes hurr)
"The best bang since the big one!"
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... the original Three Laws, as presented to him by John Campbell
Interestingly, while Asimov gave Campbell the credit, Campbell said Asimov came up with them.
"No robot may injure a human being, unless it's funny" -- a potential QC version.
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Perhaps one came up with the idea of them, that they might be necessary, and the other produced the formulation in actual laws; I can see that happening.
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For a moment I thought the phones had actually gone BOOM.
JEPH WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
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Naw Martin. Their heads totally would've 'sploded. Emily just averted a catastrophe.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Totally did not get the comic AT ALL. Now I do. Thanks.
Having understood it, I can now say this: what is wrong with Emily? That is just a super-weird thing to even imagine might happen. Not in the interesting "oh, how cool and weird" way, but the "ooooo-k, you are creeping me out and I'm just going to walk away now" way. But oh well, whatever.
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This most recent comic shows really well one of the things I absolutely love about QC: Jeph gets his characters and lets them be. Each one of them reacts in a way that is absolutely them as we've come to learn them, in both lines and body language. While Marten and Faye, and Dora and Tai have the same lines, their body language shows that they don't say them in exactly the same way - they are still their own people. Unlike [removed to not offend], Jeph has a way of not only creating his characters, but listening to them and letting them do things in their own way. That's why I continue to check it at midnight or later every night to make sure I catch every new comic - it's really rare to find a writer who is so consistent with how he writes the people he's creating.
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hehe. I love the reactions in the third line of panels. Marten is all "oh shiiiit", while Faye is a little bit more jaded and is just like "my, my" :)
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One could say that Emily worried the romantic chemistry betwixt Dora and Tai was...
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Explosive. 8-)
(YYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!)
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Is it just me or does it look like Faye was a bit glad that Dora blew up?
Course that means she'd probably try and take over the coffee shop.
"Hey Marten, Dora blew up, I now own a business!"
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I must confess to being mildly disappointed Emily's hair isn't on end.
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I spend way too much time at the other job, when explosions cause me to go, "Where's the fragmentation?"
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Emily's imagination is so contagious that it even affected Tai's love-addled brain.
Jeph certainly did that well. If not for the explosions, you could almost see that sort of thing happening...
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Too busy kissing to stop and talk about a first date? :roll: This is going places for sure.
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Fiery explosions. Just like their first go as sex, it will burn hotter than a thousand stars and last as long as a cookie in a room of fatties. :psyduck:
I also admit disappointment in Emily's hair not being blown back or shocked .
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@vogonford - Welcome to the insanity. You probably didn't read the newspost for the series of strips around the Dora-kisses-Marten arc. The characters have been pretty much on their own in the way of how they react since Faye and Marten had The Talk. Jeph is just the guy who draws the comic.
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One thing about this story acr is that it should give Jeph an excuse to draw Dora in something other than a t-shirt. It's been a while since we've seen Dora in a dress, or anything approaching gothy.
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Just so you folks know, I'm getting a fallout bunker specifically built for when this eventually goes belly up. Access will be invitation only.
Seriously though, it seems Dora and Tai are not thinking with their brains, but with their libidos. Which is a perfect way to start a relationship! (/sarcasm)
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How is that NOT a good way to start off a relationship? How are relationships supposed to start? You start with an initial attraction and build on it by spending time together getting to know each other better.
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This most recent comic shows really well one of the things I absolutely love about QC: Jeph gets his characters and lets them be. Each one of them reacts in a way that is absolutely them as we've come to learn them, in both lines and body language. While Marten and Faye, and Dora and Tai have the same lines, their body language shows that they don't say them in exactly the same way - they are still their own people. Unlike [removed to not offend], Jeph has a way of not only creating his characters, but listening to them and letting them do things in their own way. That's why I continue to check it at midnight or later every night to make sure I catch every new comic - it's really rare to find a writer who is so consistent with how he writes the people he's creating.
Welcome, new person!
He's also done pretty well in inventing characters who play off each other well.
Marten's old boss's LTR began with sheer lust. I'm not saying it's a good foundation in general but it can work.
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Jeph's latest QA dump (http://jephjacques.com/post/29416886303/qa-dump-45).
He acknowledges that Emily is being influenced by Osaka (a character from Azumanga Daioh (http://myanimelist.net/anime/66/Azumanga_Daioh), for those who don't know it).
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I'm pretty sure it's the phones exploding, not their heads. Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
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I'm pretty sure it's the phones exploding, not their heads. Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
You're no fun.
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The phones emit a frequency which cause their heads to explode.
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The phones emit a frequency which cause their heads to explode.
Pintsize gutted the phones and filled them with plastic explosives.
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The phones emit a frequency which cause their heads to explode.
Maybe this frequency? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1708 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1708)?
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I'm pretty sure it's the phones exploding, not their heads. Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
Yes, because all phones have a few ounces of C4 in them for just such an occasion. Those trickster phone manufacturers love a good explosion when you simultaneous dial you newly acquired kissmate but forget to setup a first date.
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Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
Texting on the phone that just exploded? Is the idea that something bad happens if two people call one another at the same time an urban legend or meme or something?
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Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
Texting on the phone that just exploded? Is the idea that something bad happens if two people call one another at the same time an urban legend or meme or something?
I think it was more the first three panels were Emily's imagination running wild and Tai being a little freaked out by said imagination in the last panel. Tai and Dora ringing each other at the exact same time and exploding is just a joke.
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I'm pretty sure it's the phones exploding, not their heads. Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
Yes, because all phones have a few ounces of C4 in them for just such an occasion. Those trickster phone manufacturers love a good explosion when you simultaneous dial you newly acquired kissmate but forget to setup a first date.
"Good morning Mr. Jaques......"
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The phones emit a frequency which cause their heads to explode.
Maybe this frequency? http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1708 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1708)?
Is it sad that I don't even have to look to know what strip that is?
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (Oh God, make it stop! Oh God, my fillings hurt! What the #### is going on in here? There's a pack of wild dogs outside wanting to come in!)
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Thus the 'Pretty sure it'll go to voicemail [if two people call each other at the exact same time]' and why Tai is texting instead.
Texting on the phone that just exploded? Is the idea that something bad happens if two people call one another at the same time an urban legend or meme or something?
I think it was more the first three panels were Emily's imagination running wild and Tai being a little freaked out by said imagination in the last panel. Tai and Dora ringing each other at the exact same time and exploding is just a joke.
This.
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Just so you folks know, I'm getting a fallout bunker specifically built for when this eventually goes belly up. Access will be invitation only.
Can I be in the bunker? I can help fend off the marauding hordes with my Useless Broom Made Entirely of Dicks! :psyduck:
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Dang, Pintsize.
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I wanted to hug Pintsize, poor little guy. But then I good mood whiplash. And now he's in an anus-filled bathroom. So no hugs for him.
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He actually had me going there. :roll:
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His final panel was less convincing than the others...
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Yeah, this is probably as sincere as Pintsize is ever going to be. Don't be fooled by his sudden levity, Marten!
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MAJOR :psyduck: today. Thanks Jeph.
Sometimes I wonder if it bothers Jeph that even 4000 strips after this one, a lot of the characters will be left undeveloped and possible arcs unexplored. There's only so much he can do with 5 strips a week after all.
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Can I be in the bunker? I can help fend off the marauding hordes with my Useless Broom Made Entirely of Dicks! :psyduck:
Hey, where did you get my UBMEOD??? I've been looking for that for 3 months!!!
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Ah, yes. The wondrous profession of the macro-rectagraphers... not many take up this famed and fabled vocation that is nontheless very important for the advancement of modern medicin and analanalysts alike.
None of them, however, would probably ever have thought for the fruits of their work to end up as tile pictures in someone's bathroom... straaaange world we live in.
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Hey, where did you get my UBMEOD??? I've been looking for that for 3 months!!!
You must be mistaken, for I have had this UBMEOD for many years now.
This is my Useless Broom Made Entirely Of Dicks. There many like it, but this one is mine....
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Actually, until the very last panel, Pintsize was more or less entirely correct in everything he said. Whether he believes it or not.
Perhaps we are witnessing a bit of character development in Pintsize: from the overtly whacky and chaotic to the much more subtle and insidious troublemaker. I for one would like to see that.
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This comic felt to me like a bit of a call-back to comic 1.
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Actually, until the very last panel, Pintsize was more or less entirely correct in everything he said. Whether he believes it or not.
Perhaps we are witnessing a bit of character development in Pintsize: from the overtly whacky and chaotic to the much more subtle and insidious troublemaker. I for one would like to see that.
Later, he will reveal that he is bi-winning.
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Too bad.
Pintsize taking up Bible study could set religious scholarship back a thousand years.
Or forward.
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Too bad.
Pintsize taking up Bible study could set religious scholarship back a thousand years.
Or forward.
Or, perhaps more likely, in a completely unforseen direction.
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This comic felt to me like a bit of a call-back to comic 1.
But there was no offer of nice cheerful porn! However will Marten cope?
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May be... may be... Pintsize needs to find a romantic interest? That would take him off his funk (and his mind off horse porn).
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And now he's in an anus-filled bathroom.
He actually had me going there.
My mind processed these two posts quite differently than intended. :psyduck:
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May be... may be... Pintsize needs to find a romantic interest? That would take him off his funk (and his mind off horse porn).
Nah, if Pintsize DOES find a soulmate that shares his destructive tendencies, sense of humour and random distributions of horse porn...
God help us all!
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Oh Marten. How many times are you gonna fall for that. :evil:
Finally, Pintsize returns!
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The prospects for Tai and Dora are...
Good. As in OTP good. As in "run off and get married" good. 9 (10.7%)
Yeah, they're gonna be a couple for a while. Then Tai goes off to another job. 8 (9.5%)
Won't last as long as Marten & Padma. 5 (6%)
It's one of those burn hot and fast kinda things. 14 (16.7%)
Never gets past Teh Kisses stage. 1 (1.2%)
Crashes and burns before it even takes off. 1 (1.2%)
Something's gotta give. What, I dunno. 7 (8.3%)
Emily does something to bollox it all up. 1 (1.2%)
Jeph don't know, and neither do I. 31 (36.9%)
Insert mandatory meme response here (spathe ham, waffles, BOOP, etc.) 7 (8.3%)
Total Members Voted: 84
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Just so you folks know, I'm getting a fallout bunker specifically built for when this eventually goes belly up. Access will be invitation only.
Can I be in the bunker? I can help fend off the marauding hordes with my Useless Broom Made Entirely of Dicks! :psyduck:
Of course, you were already on the shortlist of invites anyway.
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Pintsize could get some ideas from the Bible.
Marten has already given a robot an existential crisis (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=706).
Hmm. Can AnthroPCs get their programming adjusted? Kind of like plastic surgery for their personalities?
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Did you mean 705? 706 is the resolution.
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Too bad.
Pintsize taking up Bible study could set religious scholarship back a thousand years.
Or forward.
Or it could trigger a worldwide holy war that would eventually turn into a nuclear war, and then the planet would turn into a radioactive wasteland where the humans who survived the war would be struggling to survive in the hostile enviroment. The new Earth then would be ruled by the robots which was pintsize's goal all along.
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Too much radiation is not so good for electronics, either.
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They would secretely craft news bodies coated with lead :X
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Is it too much to hope for that Faye's words in the last panel are foreshadowing? :mrgreen:
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The expression of satisfaction on Pintsize's face in the first panel of today's comic is priceless.
Is it too much to hope for that Faye's words in the last panel are foreshadowing? :mrgreen:
Whose relationship are you damning with your thoughts today?
:psyduck:
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Nothing like a little Pintsize mayhem to lighten up the week
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I dunno, Angus; not many straight guys would describe being surrounded by pictures of buttholes as mesmerizing.
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What's straight got to do with it? He never said they were all male buttholes.
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Knowing Pintsize it's probably animals anyway.
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Given Faye's predilection for tweeting about her butt, I'm not sure why she said what she did!
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Question: Do the comic personas know about their twitter personas?
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There have been occasions when the tweets have been related to the comic, but there's no sign of the comic characters knowing about the tweets. None the less, I think it appropriate that they should be considered canon, at least as an additional guide to the characters. I can't recall if Jeph has commented on this.
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Alert the CDC, the Butt's disease virus (A5S3) has mutated. Individuals previously reported as immune are now contagious, a new vaccine is desperately needed!
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He's .... oddly quick. Or they talk extremely slow. One of the two.
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Sheesh...
https://twitter.com/zmoreno/status/236321128791044098
@jephjacques I just realized that if you subtract the g, his name is Anus..... I am not surprised he was mesmerized by the wallpaper!
He's .... oddly quick. Or they talk extremely slow. One of the two.
Orrrr... Jeph just left out the little "Moments Later" caption.
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bunnyThor, at the rate things go here in QC-land, I suspect they'll be broken up by strip 3000.
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Given Faye's predilection for tweeting about her butt, I'm not sure why she said what she did!
I think Faye is just jealous of Angus' interest in sphincters besides her own. He has access unto the finest brown eye in all of Georgia--whither should he look at other butt(holes)?!? Angus, you cad!!
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...oooooor in the interest of making this post not completely creepy I could acknowledge that Faye was probably being a Snarky Broad, as is her wont.
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bunnyThor, at the rate things go here in QC-land, I suspect they'll be broken up by strip 3000.
Or married
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bunnyThor, at the rate things go here in QC-land, I suspect they'll be broken up by strip 3000.
Or married
Or both.
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Man, I hope Faye and Angus don't break up. He's been really good for her.
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Today's strip makes me wonder if Jeph intentionally picked the name Angus because it was one letter away from Anus. It would seem to at least semi-fit the personality which he had prior to our learning his name (we of course don't know whether Jeph had named him when he first appeared).
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Angus has the butt fetish. :psyduck: Careful, Faye. He could asking for the butt in the future. :-P
I'm surprised Pintsize doesn't have a projector set up flashing this song "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU" while people do their business.
And.....
I place my bet on Dora/Tai on comic 2800ish.
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I place my bet on Dora/Tai on comic 2800ish.
Which will be three days from now in QC World.
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I place my bet on Dora/Tai on comic 2800ish.
Which will be three days from now in QC World.
Gonna go out like a supernova baby! 3 days? Eh, depends. If Jeph decides on a new space-esque in length arc, could be longer.
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You know that we call the author of this comic by his name: Jeph - please remember to get it right.
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You should know by now that we call the author of this comic by his name: Jeph.
Hey man. Sleeping 10 hours makes your brain fuzzy. First typo of his name I've ever done.
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Fair enough; you'll see that I changed my wording after I checked and realised that (and before I saw your reply).
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Tweets are secondary canon, subject to being overridden by the comic (http://jephjacques.com/post/10973725252/qa-dump-06).
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So what SHOULD Pintsize do?
Do something outside, regardless of whether or not it would get him arrested. 1 (3.1%)
Take up painting. 0 (0%)
Robot Yoga. 0 (0%)
Bible Study. 1 (3.1%)
Work on being a better companion to Marten. 2 (6.3%)
Go with what you know - small-scale mayhem. 9 (28.1%)
Ponder the meaning of life, the universe - everything. 1 (3.1%)
Forget that and go back to wallpapering the bathroom with macro-anuses. 1 (3.1%)
Visit the AnthroPC zoo (aka the kitchen appliances). 0 (0%)
Two words: cake mix. 4 (12.5%)
MOAR TAI-DORA! 6 (18.8%)
Waffles. 0 (0%)
Spathe Ham. 0 (0%)
Just be you, Pintsize. Just be you. 7 (21.9%)
Total Members Voted: 32
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Heads up to y'all: another work weekend, tied with the joys of getting another computer set up and running, may mean I won't be around Sunday AM to start up a new WCDT.
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Man, I hope Faye and Angus don't break up. He's been really good for her.
How can you tell? We haven't seen him in 137 strips. I was beginning to hope that Jeph had put him on a bus, then this strip showed up.
And I'll spare everyone my rants about Angus; they are almost as boring as he is.
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It suggests a non-boring question, though. What kind of person do you imagine being best for The Pugnacious Peach? It would have to be a new character.
Educated, assertive, quick-witted, compassionate come to mind as desiderata. There's too much history for Sven 2.0 to be an option.
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Educated, assertive, quick-witted, compassionate come to mind as desiderata.
Too bad there isn't anyone in the strip already with any of these qualities. :roll:
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Well, there is one character who is extensively self-educated and quick-witted, certainly assertive and occasionally capable of demonstrating compassion.
Pintsize and the Peach. OTP.
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Is there anyone here that doesn't detest at least one of the characters? Just curious.
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Educated, assertive, quick-witted, compassionate come to mind as desiderata. There's too much history for Sven 2.0 to be an option.
Angus isn't those things?
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Is there anyone here that doesn't detest at least one of the characters? Just curious.
Won't speak for anyone else, but I try not to get the BP too elevated about people who don't exist.
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Won't speak for anyone else, but I try not to get the BP too elevated about people who don't exist.
I strongly suspect that no-one here does - rather, their BP gets elevated about someone who does exist. of whom some QC character reminds them. Hence the QC character becomes their metaphorical punching bag.
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Won't speak for anyone else, but I try not to get the BP too elevated about people who don't exist.
I strongly suspect that no-one here does - rather, their BP gets elevated about someone who does exist. of whom some QC character reminds them. Hence the QC character becomes their metaphorical punching bag.
Point. I do recall one such poster whose expressed hatred of Faye was truly astounding -- and it turned out, after other posters engaged her in conversation, Faye was pretty much a stand-in for a person who had done her a grievous wrong.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference
Come to think of it, Pintsize has made more than one advance toward The Pugnacious Peach. I will now try to forget the idea. Purple elephants purple elephants purple elephants.
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Welcome to the QC forums, where we nurse thousand-year grudges against fictional constructions. :mrgreen:
Seriously though, the only reason anyone actually hates Angus, it seems, is they were one of the people who were sure Marten and Faye were going to fuck, that she owed him a fuck, and were absolutely flabbergasted when Jeph basically went "Never happening."
Or he's supposedly 'boring', which I'm like, dude freestyles a Trojan War riff of Single Ladies and loves 'Africa'. You are wrong, bunnyThor. (No hostility, but you are.)
That's my take, anyhow.
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Won't speak for anyone else, but I try not to get the BP too elevated about people who don't exist.
I strongly suspect that no-one here does - rather, their BP gets elevated about someone who does exist. of whom some QC character reminds them. Hence the QC character becomes their metaphorical punching bag.
What if they remind us of someone who doesn't exist? My Tai-dislike largely stems from her being just a Hawaiian shirt, '50s lingo and a Comic Exaggeration boost away from becoming Quagmire.
But that's just me.
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Giggidy?
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It's all relative in the hatred, people get worked up over the silliest of things, THAT said, people do tend to stick hatred for things that don't truly exist but are similar to a real life person they have a grudge as a way to cope with hating a real person..
That said, If anyone goes out of their way to compare people they know to comic book characters they'll be able to do it eventually, doesn't make it true though.
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I'm pretty neutral toward the QC cast, overall. I mean, my biggest pet peeve is combining ignorance and arrogance (read: being a f***tard (you know what I mean, I hope), a troll, or a politician), and none of the cast has displayed those qualities.
That's not to say there haven't been moments that haven't left me with a sense of "Why would you do that?" but that's also true in real life, anyway.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transference
Come to think of it, Pintsize has made more than one advance toward The Pugnacious Peach. I will now try to forget the idea. Purple elephants purple elephants purple elephants.
... boners? (:
What if they remind us of someone who doesn't exist? My Tai-dislike largely stems from her being just a Hawaiian shirt, '50s lingo and a Comic Exaggeration boost away from becoming Quagmire.
I'm kinda glad you brought that up, because that is a different type of dislike... the one I was referring to is where you're 'immersed' in the character and dislike them... the other is when you dislike the characterisation, because it does not seem real to you at all, and you can't relate. I've seen that as well. I haven't felt it myself, but I can comprehend it more readily.
I'm pretty neutral toward the QC cast, overall. I mean, my biggest pet peeve is combining ignorance and arrogance (read: being a f***tard (you know what I mean, I hope), a troll, or a politician), and none of the cast has displayed those qualities.
I do know what you mean - that's pretty much how I feel as well.
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I'm kinda glad you brought that up, because that is a different type of dislike... the one I was referring to is where you're 'immersed' in the character and dislike them... the other is when you dislike the characterisation, because it does not seem real to you at all, and you can't relate. I've seen that as well. I haven't felt it myself, but I can comprehend it more readily.
Fair point - her mild hovering over a couple I could buy from a background character, then she 'made the opening credits' and I didn't care for her. Especially the "forcing the matter again while she was drunk still didn't get me laid.. better put her on the spot, to hell with her unresolved issues." strips. I just got the feeling a hair-doll would have come into play if that didn't work - again, maybe that's just me.
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Won't speak for anyone else, but I try not to get the BP too elevated about people who don't exist.
I strongly suspect that no-one here does - rather, their BP gets elevated about someone who does exist. of whom some QC character reminds them. Hence the QC character becomes their metaphorical punching bag.
DINGDINGDINGDING! We have a winnah!
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Welcome to the QC forums, where we nurse thousand-year grudges against fictional constructions. :emotrex:
Seriously though, the only reason anyone actually hates Angus, it seems, is they were one of the people who were sure Marten and Faye were going to fuck, that she owed him a fuck, and were absolutely flabbergasted when Jeph basically went "Never happening."
Or he's supposedly 'boring', which I'm like, dude freestyles a Trojan War riff of Single Ladies and loves 'Africa'. You are wrong, bunnyThor. (No hostility, but you are.)
That's my take, anyhow.
If Angus isn't boring, then where's he been for the last 296 strips? I posit that the surest indicator of which characters are interesting are which characters Jeph is inspired to write about in a featured role. Other characters, for the most part, only show up as a prop for the main characters to react to or to witness the main characters' actions.
So who is currently interesting? Marten, Faye, Dora, Tai, Hanners, Momo, Marigold, and Pintsize.
Who isn't currently interesting? Steve, Cosette, Penelope, Wil, Raven, Jimbo, Amir, Angus, and (sadly) Sven.
And as to the specifics, almost any one of the characters is or has been a vehicle for witty/snarky/obscure riffs. Those are the kind of characters Jeph writes.
And preferring "Africa" to any of Toto's other songs is so obvious, it makes him less interesting. First of all 99% of all 20-somethings--if they are aware of the music of Toto at all--are only going to know the Top 10 hits: "Hold The Line", "Rosanna", "Africa", and "I Won't Hold You Back". Out of all of those, "Africa" was by far their biggest hit, and is their song that has best stood the test of time. Hell, "Africa" is my favorite Toto song, and I grew up during the time that their songs were actually new. If you go to the iTunes store, you can see that "Africa" is the #1 download (as well as #4, #6, and #9). "Africa" is really the only possible answer that you could give to the question, unless you are a music geek like Marten, or a soft rock hater like Dora.
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Who isn't currently interesting? [...] (sadly) Sven.
Why "sadly"? If he's not interesting, then you should be glad he's not taking up your time, and if he is interesting then your logic collapses.
There are too many characters to keep in the limelight all at once, and so Jeph's attention wanders where his mood and the story-lines take him; that is not necessarily any judgement on the characters, and in fact Jeph has fairly recently said (if I recall correctly) that it is not impossible for any character to appear again, except one (presumably Sara).
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I thought he had written off Padma as well? (Though not to death by allosaurus, though)
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Well she's out west for now, we don't know what the future will bring.
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Is there anyone here that doesn't detest at least one of the characters? Just curious.
/raises hand
Personally, I like all of the characters, to a degree. They have interesting neuroses or satisfying character development or a nice design. Something that makes them interesting. I focus more on that than on their inevitable slip-ups.
Also might help that I'm not one for grudges irl, but meh.
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And preferring "Africa" to any of Toto's other songs is so obvious, it makes him less interesting.
Wait... are you saying that he's not hipsterish enough for you?
(yes I'm being slightly mischevious, but only slightly)
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I'll say now what I did then..."Africa" is the only Toto song I know. I mean, sure, I know of a couple others, but "Africa" is the only one I can actually think of and hear in my head without external sources.
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And preferring "Africa" to any of Toto's other songs is so obvious, it makes him less interesting.
Wait... are you saying that he's not hipsterish enough for you?
(yes I'm being slightly mischevious, but only slightly)
Hipster trap sprung
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I didn't even know it by its name "Africa" until Angus brought it up.
And I'm thankful to Pintsize for letting me discover "Hold the Line".
Yeah, so I didn't get into music properly until a few years ago. I'm sorry. :(
Edit: Could somebody please clarify for me what emotion :mrgreen: is suppose to convey? I mean, it's the dinosaur from Qwantz, right? What else?
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Written out permanently:
Sarah, Ellen, Nat, any chance at happiness for Marten
http://jephjacques.com/post/11265563239/qa-dump-09
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Knowing Pintsize it's probably animals anyway.
Nope (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2254) (yes, I answered with a link to the previous comic, so what?)
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I don't sincerely hate any of the characters. But Tai has always rubbed me the wrong way, for some reason, and the way Faye has treated her friends in the past sometimes bothers me. Nobody really reminds me of anyone I know, except I totally saw this dude who looked like Angus every time I went to a particular class. He was always sitting on a bench and either reading or chatting. So, no, I don't have any emotions toward the characters because of people I know, so I also don't have any preferences that are due to people I like, either. Oh, and Marigold's old self bothered me some because she represented what people think people like me are like. She's gotten much more pleasant since then.
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Could somebody please clarify for me what emotion :mrgreen: is suppose to convey? I mean, it's the dinosaur from Qwantz, right? What else?
We just like it. Don't you ever feel like a snarky dinosaur?
I used it for the admin status because I am a dinosaur.
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So what SHOULD Pintsize do?
Do something outside, regardless of whether or not it would get him arrested. 2 (5.1%)
Take up painting. 0 (0%)
Robot Yoga. 0 (0%)
Bible Study. 1 (2.6%)
Work on being a better companion to Marten. 2 (5.1%)
Go with what you know - small-scale mayhem. 10 (25.6%)
Ponder the meaning of life, the universe - everything. 2 (5.1%)
Forget that and go back to wallpapering the bathroom with macro-anuses. 1 (2.6%)
Visit the AnthroPC zoo (aka the kitchen appliances). 0 (0%)
Two words: cake mix. 5 (12.8%)
MOAR TAI-DORA! 7 (17.9%)
Waffles. 0 (0%)
Spathe Ham. 0 (0%)
Just be you, Pintsize. Just be you. 9 (23.1%)
Total Members Voted: 39
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Written out permanently:
Sarah, Ellen, Nat, any chance at happiness for Marten
http://jephjacques.com/post/11265563239/qa-dump-09 (http://jephjacques.com/post/11265563239/qa-dump-09)
Until they're not. I'm not saying Jeph will (or should) change his mind, I'm saying he might. Also, the possibility that he'll change his mind is what keeps that from being a spoiler.
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And before this wraps up, a photo today from Fark:
(http://i759.photobucket.com/albums/xx237/EccentricaG/TotoKansas.jpg)
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Orrrr... Jeph just left out the little "Moments Later" caption.
Yeah, seeing as how we should all have pretty good idea by now of how long "taking care of business" takes.
By the way, I suggest you don't do a Google image search on anus. Spoiled my dreams? Wrecked 'em.
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And preferring "Africa" to any of Toto's other songs is so obvious, it makes him less interesting.
Wait... are you saying that he's not hipsterish enough for you?
(yes I'm being slightly mischevious, but only slightly)
No, I'm saying that in that regard, he is typical. Being typical makes one less interesting. Being atypical makes one more interesting. Not that being interesting is always a good thing. "May you live in Interesting Times.")
Who isn't currently interesting? [...] (sadly) Sven.
Why "sadly"? If he's not interesting, then you should be glad he's not taking up your time, and if he is interesting then your logic collapses.
"Sadly" because he used to be interesting. In fact, he was very interesting. But right now he's not interesting, and that's a damn shame. He used to spark, and now he just broods. Pity.
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He's retreating to build up to doing something new.