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Title: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Sep 2012, 22:39
We set forth on another week of fun and frivolity in the QCverse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Sep 2012, 00:16
The shit tier.....I mean third tier folks get a showing during the week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 09 Sep 2012, 01:54
I predict at least one more angry fan email telling Jeph that his comic used to rule and now it sucks. Jeph will probably tweet about it. And we will lose one more reader who secretly didn't want to be here anyway, now that all the quality writing, well-fleshed-out characters and vastly improved art have taken over the strip.

Sorry if that comes across a bit ultra-cynical, but I delved into the history of another forum I frequent over the weekend (LoadingReadyRun, if you're interested), and I found somebody whose last post on the forum was declaring that the website had jumped the shark in the most gratingly passive-aggressive and stuck-up way possible. And on one of their finest videos, too.
And I realized how much I hate it when people declare that a thing they used to like has jumped the shark on a forum designed to celebrate that thing, or worse yet, directly to the author of that thing. Please, if you're reading this at home, don't do this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 09 Sep 2012, 04:18
I decided to google that website. Wow. The front page...

load "nostalgia", 8, 1
run
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2012, 07:46
The better a piece of serialized work is, the more difficult it is to see exactly when it "jumped the shark". If at all, of course.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Sep 2012, 07:59
Hmm. I agree entirely, and am suspicious of people who use a forum to say they can't stand the work the forum is there to discuss, but ...

Suppose your favorite webcomic, whatever that might be, suddenly changed direction to be a sequel to Dondi. The temptation to post in dismay would be hard to resist, and understandable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 09 Sep 2012, 08:05
Although I know what "jumping the shark" means, and where it came from, I find that I am deeply suspicious of any criticism that uses the phrase.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 09 Sep 2012, 11:56
It's a vague, lazy criticism. I'm more willing to reason with people who can explain their objections.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Sep 2012, 15:08
It's a vague, lazy criticism. I'm more willing to reason with people who can explain their objections.

"Jeph injected a gay relationship into the storyline cause he knows that the story has gone to shit and is trying to be edgy and progressive. Trying it with Sven and Momo (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1658) wouldn't have that much impact as a Butch Lesbo and a Gothic Bisexual given that would be the ultimate tropes in a porno film."

Happy?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 09 Sep 2012, 17:22
Well, instead of just being vague and lazy, it's now begging the question as well. So I don't imagine so, no.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Sep 2012, 18:09
"Jumping the shark" might have had meaning once, say shortly after one A. Fonzarelli avoided internalizing himself vis-a-vis the selachian, but the term has been abused and overused to the point where it is just another buzzword intended to disguise subjective evaluaton as objective fact -- in other words, a substitute for thought.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 09 Sep 2012, 19:49
Claims that a work has "jumped the shark" are very clichéd, and usually say more about the person making the judgement than the work. Referring to a gay relationship as being "injected" and "trying to be edgy" is rather revealing, for example. Jeph is not Rick Santorum, and QC is hardly Leave It To Beaver, so I wonder why someone would think that the creator of the comic, or its audience, would find a gay relationship "edgy". I don't know where the opinion cesariojpn quoted came from, but it sent my homophobia-meter straight into the red.

I mean "lesbo"? Really? :psyduck:  Why not call Emily a gook while you're at it?

Edit: Made clear that I understand that cesariojpn was quoting someone else's opinion. That was sloppy proof-reading on my part. Sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Sep 2012, 20:55
I think the reference was to that person on Twitter (a Twit?) who was afraid that QC would become "gay".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mothykins on 09 Sep 2012, 20:55
Claims that a work has "jumped the shark" are very clichéd, and usually say more about the person making the judgement than the work. Referring to a gay relationship as being "injected" and "trying to be edgy" is rather revealing, for example. Jeph is not Rick Santorum, and QC is hardly Leave It To Beaver, so I wonder why someone would think that the creator of the comic, or its audience, would find a gay relationship "edgy". I don't know where the opinion cesariojpn came from, but it sent my homophobia-meter straight into the red.

I mean "lesbo"? Really? :psyduck:  Why not call Emily a gook while you're at it?

Given the quotation marks around cesariojpn's comment, I assume it wasn't his own thoughts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2012, 21:34
You know, I'm wondering how many of the strips have featured banter between Dora and Faye (and/or some other combination of the two with another person or persons) at CoD since Dora was introduced? I'm betting on something akin to about 700+ of the strips to date.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 09 Sep 2012, 21:44
Probably a fair few. I get the impression that, whenever Jeph has an amusing idea and decides to riff on it, he throws Dora and Faye into CoD and let's them go for it.

Personally, I find these strips to be a little uneven in quality. I guess they tend have an inherent "either works for you or doesn't" factor. Sometimes I like them; sometimes they feel a little forced.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Sep 2012, 21:54
Excess RRAAAAAAAGGGGEEEEEE!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Midwesterner on 09 Sep 2012, 22:05
RUN, Angus!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 09 Sep 2012, 22:30
RUN, Angus!!

Bwahaha! Perfect response.

Poor Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 09 Sep 2012, 22:35
Faye, why don't you go work on that bonercat coffee machine? May be come back after you have calmed down a bit? Besides I want to see that in operation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Sep 2012, 22:39
Given the quotation marks around cesariojpn's comment, I assume it wasn't his own thoughts.

No, I just wanted to make an argument to sate the fact we're arguing over people using jumping the shark as an easy argument and we rather have something meaty to grumble about instead. I'm liking the strips regardless.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2012, 22:42
Faye, why don't you go work on that bonercat coffee machine? May be come back after you have calmed down a bit? Besides I want to see that in operation.


Yeah, I'm curious too - I tend to think the boner's for steaming milk, though...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 Sep 2012, 22:42
God help the next customer that comes in.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 09 Sep 2012, 22:52
There's no way Faye has a problem with what to do with excess rage. Surely by now she's cornered the market and has a plethora of buyers lined up every week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Boomslang on 09 Sep 2012, 23:02
Yeah, Dora really needs to think about the order in which she says things to Faye. You can do the whole 'on the one hand, on the other' thing, but you have to start with the hand that won't get bitten off along with it's contents.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 09 Sep 2012, 23:10
It's cool guys, Faye is part troll, the blood rage is a natural thing. Just let her spear some customers with a trident and everything'll be fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Sep 2012, 23:41
Second panel Dora looks like a plant.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Sep 2012, 23:47
Please say more -- I'm not seeing it yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Boomslang on 09 Sep 2012, 23:48
Second panel Dora looks like a plant.  :-D

Er, is that sort of plant for sale somewhere? 'Cause that would be really cool. Plant them in your yard, really disturb your neighbors...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 09 Sep 2012, 23:53
Please say more -- I'm not seeing it yet.

Something about her slender physique in profile and her head being slightly tilted back. It looks ... skewed as if she was a plant leaning towards the sun. At least to my eyes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 10 Sep 2012, 02:39
Y'know it wouldnt surprise me if there was a plot twist revealing Faye was part Scottish, what with the whole quick to rage thing, it's reminiscient of my kin, (and myself but im refined so shh!)

That said Dora is being surprisingly mature about this...

Until Tai is found on a couch, seriously, it's not usually the person, it's the couch, she seems to hate those things, Maybe ever since Marten started having a dream affair with furniture she became insecure, hell if we let her into Furniture Land she would go psychopathic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 10 Sep 2012, 03:42
Faye's hair seems to have grown out quite a bit. I like her pose in the last panel.

Dora's "yet" and desire to take is slow seems to mean she is optimistic about a proper relationship. I don't like making predictions but I wonder if she'll ever have feelings on the same level as Tai? Or close enough that she's comfortable going physical. Since she's jumped for the kiss and is talking about sex, there definitely seems to be a physical attraction but I don't know if an emotional attraction will form, at least as quick as Dora wants it to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 10 Sep 2012, 04:53
The whole end of the date definitely showed the gap between how Tai and Dora proceed with a relationship. Dora isn't even fully committed to the pairing and Tai's brain is so sex-addled that she was automatically on auto-pilot when it came to sealing the deal at her place. This arc is going places, that's for sure.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 10 Sep 2012, 04:55
Y'know it wouldnt surprise me if there was a plot twist revealing Faye was part Scottish, what with the whole quick to rage thing, it's reminiscient of my kin, (and myself but im refined so shh!)

You've just reminded me of an exchange in a recent episode of Doctor Who.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 10 Sep 2012, 05:05
First thought on today's strip was - so I guess Tai didn't finish the night at Fay and MArten's,

The second was, "I'm sure something will come up to allow you to get rid of the rage.  And may god have mercy on their soul."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 10 Sep 2012, 05:20
Faye needs to create a sort of "rage vault" in her mind and store the excess there, for use in emergencies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 10 Sep 2012, 05:38
The whole end of the date definitely showed the gap between how Tai and Dora proceed with a relationship. Dora isn't even fully committed to the pairing and Tai's brain is so sex-addled that she was automatically on auto-pilot when it came to sealing the deal at her place. This arc is going places, that's for sure.  :roll:

I kind of agree.  Definitely shows the difference in their relationship experience (even though, from how it stands, Dora has had only one decent relationship and that was with Marten).  Tai=Sex.  Dora, with her issues, has to be certain.  Maturity.  Tai is still trying to find it. 

I figured this was the case.

Though it is interesting that Dora said Tai is completely infatuated while Dora doesn't feel the same way yet.  I take that as no romantic interest other than a booty call (given Dora said she'd have to lay off sleeping with Tai).  Which again leads me to the platonic/non-romantic sisterly like affections.

Which is why I'd say Dora shouldn't have started off with Tai so soon in my opinion....She really doesn't know a thing about her.  Increasing the friendship factor would have been better.

Might have avoided the, "Dora ends up realizing she just can't get into Tai like Tai is in to her."

I will say this about Dora as a whole.  I've had gay friends and bi friends.  What a lot of my more bi-oriented friends have told is that they've always preferred one gender over another.  By that I mean, there's one direction they've chosen as their "settle down relationship."  Never met one that was 50/50 down the line in interest between males and females.  I wonder if Jeph will address that at all.  From her history, it seems like Dora has tried for more serious relationships with men, or at least, there seem to be more of those than with females.  Could be she just hasn't find a permanent female, but.  Begs the question though from my experience.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 10 Sep 2012, 06:33
You've just reminded me of an exchange in a recent episode of Doctor Who.

(click to show/hide)

That was Asylum wasn't it?

Either way sometimes a reason something is popularized is because it's true, I'm bashful most of the time, but unlock MY rage mode, and it won't end well for anyone involved, I'm basically the last resort between friend arguments, they bring me in and then wait for the impending doom.

I can see Faye going all Temple of Doom one day though, kinda like Cosette, but much more bloody.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Sep 2012, 07:11
You know, I'm wondering how many of the strips have featured banter between Dora and Faye (and/or some other combination of the two with another person or persons) at CoD since Dora was introduced? I'm betting on something akin to about 700+ of the strips to date.
Of the 867 strips in which Dora appears, Faye is in 588. Of course, not all of these are at CoD, and there are some with them both at CoD but no banter (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1179), so I'd guess it's in the range 400-500.

I counted 202 in the first 900 strips, and it went down noticeably over the years, so yeah - I'd think it'd be closer to 500, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Sword on 10 Sep 2012, 09:25
Light-hearted comment: Excess rage is a very serious problem. All that fire, and nothing to incinerate with it!

Serious discussion on storyline: I won't say Jeph "jumped the shark (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JumpingTheShark)," chiefly because shark-jumping is more of a retroactive judgement applied to a franchise that declined before its termination.

However, I will say that I feel this arc feels so contrived that my suspension of disbelief is pounding down vodka doubles to convince itself. As inferred, I don't "believe" it, so I'm left feeling somewhat disappointed as I read the strips. Day in, day out, I'm obliged to observe a pair of characters I wasn't overly attached to in the first place and have not become more fond of as a result of the attention they're getting. I'm also left feeling a bit out of the party, since the QC cast are becoming less relatable every time someone gets a day in the limelight (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ADayInTheLimelight). It seems like every time it happens, they're all revealed to be a basket case of issues, instead of just quirky people. Yeah, we all have issues, but quite a few of us just shrug them off and don't let them impinge our consciousness.

I'm not going to rage quit or anything like that, but I think it's fair to say I'm not impressed with this arc. Marten-Dora break up, Marten-Padma hook-up-and-sink, these things pulled me in and had me racing to read the strips. Space arc was fun, if too bloody long. This.... well, the most it's managed to pull from me is a giant meh a day and a longing for this arc to be over already so we can head on to another, potentially more interesting arc. Just my five cents.

some minor exaggerations were included for effect
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Sep 2012, 09:45
Faye needs to create a sort of "rage vault" in her mind and store the excess there, for use in emergencies.

She always has plenty, even in a nemergency.  I just think storing it up would lead to a "Johnstown flood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown_Flood)" situation. 

(I'm in Johnstown as I type this...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Sep 2012, 10:07
Where do you see the "contrived" coming in? Is it the difference in personalities, or seeing Dora as not ready yet, or something else? 'Cause they've considered each other cute for a long time, and Tai's development into a more mature character could lead her to seek someone more like Dora than like her previous affairs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: helloandgoodbye on 10 Sep 2012, 11:03
It's a vague, lazy criticism. I'm more willing to reason with people who can explain their objections.

"Jeph injected a gay relationship into the storyline cause he knows that the story has gone to shit and is trying to be edgy and progressive. Trying it with Sven and Momo (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1658) wouldn't have that much impact as a Butch Lesbo and a Gothic Bisexual given that would be the ultimate tropes in a porno film."

Happy?

The fact that you dislike the arc is your own opinion, but I disagree with you that Jeph is trying to be edgy and progressive with Dora and Tai's relationship.  It's not like he's doing some novel thing -- especially when it comes to webcomics. Almost all the popular webcomics I've seen involve gay and/or lesbian relationships.  If anything, Jeph is implementing such a relationship later than others.

Also, it's not like Dora/Tai occurred without any build-up.  It's been clear for a while that Tai is infatuated with Dora and that Dora is at least physically attracted to Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 10 Sep 2012, 11:28
Ow, I've been in a similar situation to Dora's. Thirteen years ago, I was on summer break at Belle-Île (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_%C3%8Ele). I met a girl at a fest noz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fest_Noz) (a kind of traditional-ish festival) and we hit it off pretty well... Except I didn't feel really in love. I liked her, a lot, she was fun, smart, attractive. But I wasn't in love and my lukewarm feelings puzzled even myself. I supposed that somehow I wasn't in the proper state of mind to fall in love. And we didn't have much time to try to let my feelings build up. If we had been on the same page, I'd eagerly have considered friendly sex with her. But she was in love with me, the asymmetry of feelings was too great.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 10 Sep 2012, 13:04
Where do you see the "contrived" coming in? Is it the difference in personalities, or seeing Dora as not ready yet, or something else? 'Cause they've considered each other cute for a long time, and Tai's development into a more mature character could lead her to seek someone more like Dora than like her previous affairs.

I'll try and jump in on it but I'll likely get it wrong.

Here's what I think when I see "contrived."  You have Marten and Dora going back and forth for a big portion of the comic before finally getting together.  Dora is at this time the only character that isn't straight up hetero.  They start their heavy dating and get really close.  Then you introduce Tai as the lesbian character.  She, in all her immaturity, makes not so subtle advances on Marten's girlfriend and pretty much says she wants to boink Dora and makes it none too subtle she's fairly jealous of Marten.  Meanwhile, from my estimation there is a more sisterly vibe from Dora to Tai.  Hence "cute little butch girl" and "not my type" references.  I'll give that they had flirting instances, but all seemed playful from Dora's end and nothing serious.

Then you hit the Dora insecurity arc supreme and things end.  Dora takes a break, then tries a date with Jim.  Doesn't work.  Therapy and boom.  Out of left field Tai finally goes for it and Dora (who, in my estimation has shown only very friendly platonic feelings to Tai) figures what the hell.  And you the lesbian character who couldn't keep the Dora salivating under control get with the only bi character.  I can understand why some feel it can be considering kind of cheap and convenient to eventually pair those two up, hence its contrived nature.

And then you add in the "not feeling it" part.  You know, the mutual chemistry.  It has been very evident in almost all the other relationships and how they were built up that it made a lot of sense in there was some believable build up and chemistry boiling between characters.  Then you have the latest where Dora really seems to have no clue of her feelings toward Tai (and she admitted she could tell Tai is very infatuated with her).  Note she didn't say she was infatuated with Tai.  Isn't that one of the first steps?  You become a bit infatuated with the person you want to date / after a 1st date? 

From the spacey Dora during the date to this revelation, it has gotten even less convincing of a pairing. 


That's what I think some people mean by contrived. 

I personally think it would have been a bit more believable if you introduce a new girl that Dora just meets on her own and really digs her off the bat and tries a date than mackin' all of a sudden on Tai.

But, it is what it is.  Some people see it differently, some see it the same, others see an in between analysis. 

I agree on the arc getting a little over drawn and a bit dull.....I blame that on Hanners missing from the strip for far too long. 

And Marigold!  Where's Marigold!?

Ow, I've been in a similar situation to Dora's. Thirteen years ago, I was on summer break at Belle-Île (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_%C3%8Ele). I met a girl at a fest noz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fest_Noz) (a kind of traditional-ish festival) and we hit it off pretty well... Except I didn't feel really in love. I liked her, a lot, she was fun, smart, attractive. But I wasn't in love and my lukewarm feelings puzzled even myself. I supposed that somehow I wasn't in the proper state of mind to fall in love. And we didn't have much time to try to let my feelings build up. If we had been on the same page, I'd eagerly have considered friendly sex with her. But she was in love with me, the asymmetry of feelings was too great.

I think this will be a cause of conflict.  Tai is still trying to change, but sex=success will still be in the back of her mind.  I hope/think Dora will really be trying to put off the sexy time with Tai unless she's sure she's committed and really wants to pursue a real relationship with Tai.  That could cause friction with Tai who may be put off by Dora not taking Tai's advances or initiating them.

And honestly, when you have someone that has a 15 on the 1-10 scale of interest in you, but you're still questioning what your's is (likely a 2-3)....I don't really consider it fair to the other person.  The noticeable lack of equal levels of sexual and romantic interest is just astonishing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 10 Sep 2012, 15:00
Faye needs to create a sort of "rage vault" in her mind and store the excess there, for use in emergencies.

I doubt she wants to give herself cancer. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=368)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 10 Sep 2012, 15:08
Light-hearted comment: Excess rage is a very serious problem. All that fire, and nothing to incinerate with it!

Serious discussion on storyline: I won't say Jeph "jumped the shark (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JumpingTheShark)," chiefly because shark-jumping is more of a retroactive judgement applied to a franchise that declined before its termination.

However, I will say that I feel this arc feels so contrived that my suspension of disbelief is pounding down vodka doubles to convince itself. As inferred, I don't "believe" it, so I'm left feeling somewhat disappointed as I read the strips. Day in, day out, I'm obliged to observe a pair of characters I wasn't overly attached to in the first place and have not become more fond of as a result of the attention they're getting. I'm also left feeling a bit out of the party, since the QC cast are becoming less relatable every time someone gets a day in the limelight (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ADayInTheLimelight). It seems like every time it happens, they're all revealed to be a basket case of issues, instead of just quirky people. Yeah, we all have issues, but quite a few of us just shrug them off and don't let them impinge our consciousness.

I'm not going to rage quit or anything like that, but I think it's fair to say I'm not impressed with this arc. Marten-Dora break up, Marten-Padma hook-up-and-sink, these things pulled me in and had me racing to read the strips. Space arc was fun, if too bloody long. This.... well, the most it's managed to pull from me is a giant meh a day and a longing for this arc to be over already so we can head on to another, potentially more interesting arc. Just my five cents.

some minor exaggerations were included for effect

Hot damn. Couldn't have said it better myself. This arc just isn't believable. If this had happened:

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I personally think it would have been a bit more believable if you introduce a new girl that Dora just meets on her own and really digs her off the bat and tries a date than mackin' all of a sudden on Tai.

then this whole entire arc would have been more believable and a little bit more enjoyable. However, it's because Tai and Dora have built up this relationship as "sisters/friends" it doesn't feel organic at all. It feels more like Dora going out with her because why the hell not?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mothykins on 10 Sep 2012, 15:17
This arc just isn't believable. If this had happened:

Quote
I personally think it would have been a bit more believable if you introduce a new girl that Dora just meets on her own and really digs her off the bat and tries a date than mackin' all of a sudden on Tai.

then this whole entire arc would have been more believable and a little bit more enjoyable. However, it's because Tai and Dora have built up this relationship as "sisters/friends" it doesn't feel organic at all. It feels more like Dora going out with her because why the hell not?

I must admit that, though I'm enjoying this arc, that "alternate arc" sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than Dora/Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 10 Sep 2012, 15:37
I continue to be surprised at all the quite self-assured prophets of doom hovering about Tai and Dora's relationship. Tell me, o sages, did you read this many portents and omens coming off of Marten and Dora, or from Marten and Padma? It's an honest question, or at least the part about Marten and Padma is: I allowed myself to get invested in that relationship (a mistake when reading anything fictional), and may have missed telltale omens of its impending immolation.

But with Tai and Dora...I don't think I've ever seen this many people proselytizing that a relationship is doomed in QC forum history. Does this just come from personal dislike of the relationship, or is this just expectation of relationship failure based on Jeph's prior expertise in crafting flawed relationships?

And whatever will everyone do if Dora and Tai are a long-running couple, if Dora's passion does build after the second and third date and they surpass even Faye and Angus for longevity?  :psyduck:

(I could be wrong, of course. Hell, I didn't really expect them to date at all, so here's me swinging at all the curveballs like a chump!)

I agree on the arc getting a little over drawn and a bit dull.....I blame that on Hanners missing from the strip for far too long. 

And Marigold!  Where's Marigold!?

 :-( oh nooooooo

please don't be that guy, the people who are like "WHERE IS HANNERS AND/OR MARBEAR" are just one of my biggest pet peeves and augh please just don't.

Jeph has plans for Marigold and Hanners I'm sure, just trust in that. If they were in every arc, they wouldn't be fresh or fun anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Sep 2012, 15:47
This arc just isn't believable. If this had happened:

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I personally think it would have been a bit more believable if you introduce a new girl that Dora just meets on her own and really digs her off the bat and tries a date than mackin' all of a sudden on Tai.

then this whole entire arc would have been more believable and a little bit more enjoyable. However, it's because Tai and Dora have built up this relationship as "sisters/friends" it doesn't feel organic at all. It feels more like Dora going out with her because why the hell not?

I must admit that, though I'm enjoying this arc, that "alternate arc" sounds a hell of a lot more interesting than Dora/Tai.

Or Sweet Tits begins dating Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 10 Sep 2012, 15:53
Sweet Tits dating Dora would work though, She's got Sweet Tits.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 10 Sep 2012, 16:03
And whatever will everyone do if Dora and Tai are a long-running couple, if Dora's passion does build after the second and third date and they surpass even Faye and Angus for longevity?  :psyduck:

They will just say that the writing lacks credibility.

They can afford to be self-assured, don't worry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ummmkay on 10 Sep 2012, 16:16
to me, it's totally believable. other folks have posted about real-life situations where person A REALLY likes person B, and person B isn't super into it. that happens. sometimes person B shuts it down so as not to hurt person A. sometimes person B decides to go for it and see what happens. both of those are realistic scenarios!

i think some people are confusing "i don't like this pairing/don't think the characters are handling this well/don't think this will work out" with "this is not a believable way for people to act". people don't always do the "right" thing! sometimes people do stupid shit and other people get hurt. sometimes things look like they are going to crash and burn but then they don't, and hey, it was worth the risk after all! if the characters did everything right in every situation and everything always worked out perfectly, reading a comic about them would be pointless and probably irritating.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Sep 2012, 17:53
I think it's interesting. I'm lucky that Jeph finds it interesting too and has decided to write about it.

*buys another shirt*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 10 Sep 2012, 18:23
I'm not being that guy.

Many others agree that Hanners needs to be in at least 30% of strips.  Excuse me for having a favorite character that I really really enjoy reading.  The way she's written, it'd impossible to get tired of her.  And sue me, but Tai really isn't my favorite character.  I got turned off early.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 10 Sep 2012, 18:30
to me, it's totally believable. other folks have posted about real-life situations where person A REALLY likes person B, and person B isn't super into it. that happens. sometimes person B shuts it down so as not to hurt person A. sometimes person B decides to go for it and see what happens. both of those are realistic scenarios!

i think some people are confusing "i don't like this pairing/don't think the characters are handling this well/don't think this will work out" with "this is not a believable way for people to act". people don't always do the "right" thing! sometimes people do stupid shit and other people get hurt. sometimes things look like they are going to crash and burn but then they don't, and hey, it was worth the risk after all! if the characters did everything right in every situation and everything always worked out perfectly, reading a comic about them would be pointless and probably irritating.

I'll say this is a wrong assumption. Everyone knows that love is blind and makes people do stupid things. No one is debating that. What we are debating is whether this pairing even logically makes sense based off past interactions that Tai and Dora have had in the past. There is nothing pointing in the direction of Tai and Dora becoming romantically involved outside of Dora flirting with Tai occasionally and Tai confessing how much she wants to bone Dora and her infatuation with her. I could go on but you all get the point.

Of course, the people who like this current pairing are going to start accusing people of casting doom and gloom because "we don't like it." I don't like it because it makes no sense and feels shoe-horned, not because I have something out for Tai or Dora.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 10 Sep 2012, 18:41
to me, it's totally believable. other folks have posted about real-life situations where person A REALLY likes person B, and person B isn't super into it. that happens. sometimes person B shuts it down so as not to hurt person A. sometimes person B decides to go for it and see what happens. both of those are realistic scenarios!

i think some people are confusing "i don't like this pairing/don't think the characters are handling this well/don't think this will work out" with "this is not a believable way for people to act". people don't always do the "right" thing! sometimes people do stupid shit and other people get hurt. sometimes things look like they are going to crash and burn but then they don't, and hey, it was worth the risk after all! if the characters did everything right in every situation and everything always worked out perfectly, reading a comic about them would be pointless and probably irritating.

I'll say this is a wrong assumption. Everyone knows that love is blind and makes people do stupid things. No one is debating that. What we are debating is whether this pairing even logically makes sense based off past interactions that Tai and Dora have had in the past. There is nothing pointing in the direction of Tai and Dora becoming romantically involved outside of Dora flirting with Tai occasionally and Tai confessing how much she wants to bone Dora and her infatuation with her. I could go on but you all get the point.

Of course, the people who like this current pairing are going to start accusing people of casting doom and gloom because "we don't like it." I don't like it because it makes no sense and feels shoe-horned, not because I have something out for Tai or Dora.  :roll:

Agreed.  Other than the nut jobs (of which hardly even post here to be relevant anyway) no one hates characters in QC.  They all have good points.  Some of us don't particularly care for this character or that one as opposed to other.

Tora brought up even if it is long lasting that we'll somehow cast it as bad writing.  No. 

I don't particularly care for others casting such assumptions about others.  Those of us who just don't see this or how we really got here are just that.  Confused as to how we got here based on our interpretations of Jeph's writing.  I don't like doom and gloom junk. 

I WANT to believe.  I just dont' buy something that seems manufactured in its current form. 

If you want to know why I see Dora's interactions as sisterly lacking that true and hard sexual and romantic attraction, I'll go at it again.  One reason why I need to see it that was is to preserve Dora's own appeal during her relationship with Marten and her interactions with Tai.  But I'll refrain unless you really want to know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Sep 2012, 18:42
The 30% joke is because of her perceived contract with QC, not due to anything else.  :-)

The primary reason why this doesn't "seem right" is because we have never seen Dora on this end of a relationship - the pursued instead of the pursuer. What really didn't help was that Tai's decision to go talk to Dora was made very suddenly, and after very little forethought.

The arc before all this was Marten training the interns while she was sitting back, getting high and watching Adventure Time, for cryin' out loud. The only time it suddenly became Dora-focused was when she ended up back at Faye and Marten's place, and Dora came over. No buildup, save a little soliloquy from her in 2214 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2214).

I think that if, in Tai and Marten's ensuing conversations, Tai would have been a little more revealing towards Marten about her desire to want to settle in to a monogamous relationship, it would have made a bit more sense.

However, she was a little bit over-hung after she made the decision - so it might be the wine talking. Which makes us all see this relationship as what happened to Marten and Vicki. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=255) ("Life-altering decisions should never be made while drunk, dummy")
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ummmkay on 10 Sep 2012, 19:14
i guess what i was trying to say (perhaps not very well) is that to me, it DOES make sense for things to have progressed this way. tai has been pretty obvious about being into dora for quite a while now. i actually agree with the people who have said that it doesn't seem like there's a romantic vibe from dora's side. but i do know, and have seen a lot of real-life relationships, where someone is enjoying being pursued, and enjoying the feeling you get when somebody is really into you, and then going along with dates, etc, maybe even into a relationship, because (perhaps subconsciously) they just like feeling wanted. especially someone as massively insecure as dora. and then later they might realize, you know what, i just talked myself into thinking i had feelings for that person when i really didn't. however, it does seem like dora is trying to figure things out so hopefully she'll be serious about that and not just fling caution to the winds. 

orrrrrr perhaps i'm just projecting my own experiences onto fictional characters and i'm totally wrong about all of this. wouldn't be the first time.  :roll:  sorry if i rubbed anyone the wrong way! wasn't my intention
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 10 Sep 2012, 19:18
to me, it's totally believable. other folks have posted about real-life situations where person A REALLY likes person B, and person B isn't super into it. that happens. sometimes person B shuts it down so as not to hurt person A. sometimes person B decides to go for it and see what happens. both of those are realistic scenarios!

i think some people are confusing "i don't like this pairing/don't think the characters are handling this well/don't think this will work out" with "this is not a believable way for people to act". people don't always do the "right" thing! sometimes people do stupid shit and other people get hurt. sometimes things look like they are going to crash and burn but then they don't, and hey, it was worth the risk after all! if the characters did everything right in every situation and everything always worked out perfectly, reading a comic about them would be pointless and probably irritating.

I'll say this is a wrong assumption. Everyone knows that love is blind and makes people do stupid things. No one is debating that. What we are debating is whether this pairing even logically makes sense based off past interactions that Tai and Dora have had in the past. There is nothing pointing in the direction of Tai and Dora becoming romantically involved outside of Dora flirting with Tai occasionally and Tai confessing how much she wants to bone Dora and her infatuation with her. I could go on but you all get the point.

Of course, the people who like this current pairing are going to start accusing people of casting doom and gloom because "we don't like it." I don't like it because it makes no sense and feels shoe-horned, not because I have something out for Tai or Dora.  :roll:

Agreed.  Other than the nut jobs (of which hardly even post here to be relevant anyway) no one hates characters in QC.  They all have good points.  Some of us don't particularly care for this character or that one as opposed to other.

Tora brought up even if it is long lasting that we'll somehow cast it as bad writing.  No. 

I don't particularly care for others casting such assumptions about others.  Those of us who just don't see this or how we really got here are just that.  Confused as to how we got here based on our interpretations of Jeph's writing.  I don't like doom and gloom junk. 

I WANT to believe.  I just dont' buy something that seems manufactured in its current form. 

If you want to know why I see Dora's interactions as sisterly lacking that true and hard sexual and romantic attraction, I'll go at it again.  One reason why I need to see it that was is to preserve Dora's own appeal during her relationship with Marten and her interactions with Tai.  But I'll refrain unless you really want to know.

(http://www.halforums.com/xenforo/attachments/citizen-kane-gif.4830/)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Interlude on 10 Sep 2012, 19:25
I continue to be surprised at all the quite self-assured prophets of doom hovering about Tai and Dora's relationship. Tell me, o sages, did you read this many portents and omens coming off of Marten and Dora, or from Marten and Padma? It's an honest question, or at least the part about Marten and Padma is: I allowed myself to get invested in that relationship (a mistake when reading anything fictional), and may have missed telltale omens of its impending immolation.

There were people who did not like Marten and Padma-- but I think a lot of people were really rooting for Marten to be happy. People want Dora (and Tai) to be happy, too, but such a big deal has been made about her not being ready to date that her dating is not necessarily perceived as best for her happiness. At the moment, at least.

Personally, I never really agreed with that. Yes, sometimes you need to step away from dating while you work on yourself. But you'll never date again if you wait until everything is "fixed." Not going to happen. An insecure person is not going to become a secure person in a matter of weeks, months-- if ever. People yelling (okay, most of them were not yelling) at Dora about how she is not ready for dating is probably what pushed along her decision to say yes to Tai. If my friends were making me feel like something was so wrong with me that I could not date, then I had someone tell me how wonderful I am and that I SHOULD take the jump and HE/SHE wanted to date me...I'd probably say yes.

Honestly, Dora's issues are not THAT bad. She has them, sure. But I do think it's nice for her to see someone believing in her, too. It may not be the best reason to be dating someone, but it sure is a hard thing to resist... If she treats Tai with respect and consideration, I don't see anything wrong with them dating. I don't think it's a "believable" connection. I personally do not like this pairing at all. But I do understand how it could happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 10 Sep 2012, 19:34
The 30% joke is because of her perceived contract with QC, not due to anything else.  :-)

The primary reason why this doesn't "seem right" is because we have never seen Dora on this end of a relationship - the pursued instead of the pursuer. What really didn't help was that Tai's decision to go talk to Dora was made very suddenly, and after very little forethought.

The arc before all this was Marten training the interns while she was sitting back, getting high and watching Adventure Time, for cryin' out loud. The only time it suddenly became Dora-focused was when she ended up back at Faye and Marten's place, and Dora came over. No buildup, save a little soliloquy from her in 2214 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2214).

I think that if, in Tai and Marten's ensuing conversations, Tai would have been a little more revealing towards Marten about her desire to want to settle in to a monogamous relationship, it would have made a bit more sense.

However, she was a little bit over-hung after she made the decision - so it might be the wine talking. Which makes us all see this relationship as what happened to Marten and Vicki. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=255) ("Life-altering decisions should never be made while drunk, dummy")

I didn't even think of that...

That is a strange transition.  Getting high and watching adventure time to trying to get with the gal in therapy over relationship issues.  If you take it that way, then it backs up many of ours point in their being no direct build up. 

With Marten/Dora you had tension almost the entire time until they get together.  You could really tell how obvious that one was going to be.  Not so with Tai/Dora.  Maybe another factor is that Dora was so sure of wanting Marten (and that's the only thing we have to go on) it seems off.

I mean.  Look at this way.  Would Dora seriously consider Tai in a relationship proactively?  I mean, Tai wasn't even on her radar (outside of Tai bringing up a one night stand) until Tai come hard and heavy and had Dora reeling from the lavish attention and I think her innate and powerful desire to be pursued. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Sep 2012, 19:35
To me, "contrived" would mean Jeph is doing bad art, but "forced" could mean that Tai is pushing things in an unwarranted direction. Tai pushing things is entirely in character.

If they go from a first date to an actual relationship, we'll see whether it seems like a natural story development.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 10 Sep 2012, 19:41
Tora brought up even if it is long lasting that we'll somehow cast it as bad writing.  No. 

I don't particularly care for others casting such assumptions about others.  Those of us who just don't see this or how we really got here are just that.  Confused as to how we got here based on our interpretations of Jeph's writing.

Well, maybe I'm misinterpreting you, but it sounds like you're saying that you think Jeph's writing is inconsistent; in which case, you're already casting it as bad writing.

But if you just mean that you're confused as to how they got to start dating based on their previous behaviour, then I think that ummmkay has described it pretty much along the lines that I was going to, so I won't bother repeating.

Personally, I am quite glad we haven't had yet another "everyone knows they will end up together but them" trope, as we had with Marten and Dora. This storyline is a little more interesting, because it is not abundantly clear where the relationship will go from here. It's a little more interesting, at least from my perspective. YMMV.

P.S. Is my name a bit complicated? It's been bungled a handful of times around here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Sep 2012, 19:44
Dora has been the pursued one in the recent past -- Jim surprised her with his dinner invitation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 10 Sep 2012, 19:54

But with Tai and Dora...I don't think I've ever seen this many people proselytizing that a relationship is doomed in QC forum history. Does this just come from personal dislike of the relationship, or is this just expectation of relationship failure based on Jeph's prior expertise in crafting flawed relationships?


Actually it seems to me that Jeph is following a fairly realistic pattern in most people's lives, namely that most romantic relationships usually end in a breakup. Think about it; how many people you know who are still with their first boyfriend/girlfriend? I'm betting not many at all. Relationships end, couples break up, it's a fact of life that Jeph seems to be reflecting in the comic. Now if the comic ends with Dora and Tai still together and going strong, I'll be like "Wow, they beat the odds." Otherwise, I consider them doomed. Remember, Dora and Marten were together for a quite awhile, both in comic time and our time, before their relationship went belly up. All I can say is I hope Dora and Tai have some good times (and we get to enjoy them as well), before the end, and I hope they can remain friends afterward.

Title: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Sep 2012, 21:48
it doesn't feel organic at all. It feels more like Dora going out with her because why the hell not?

Exactly. This is a slice of life comic, and sometimes life is like that - doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Sep 2012, 00:35
Breaking news: Marigold's "favourite character" status is under threat!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 11 Sep 2012, 00:37
Breaking news: Marigold's "favourite character" status is under threat!

No! How can this be!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Sep 2012, 00:38
D'aaaaaaw... freckles on the neck... the urge to write "OMNOMNOM" in italics is nigh-overwhelming! °O

And: YAY for bringing back the light-hearted witty comments. (Albeit not music-related in this case... what gives?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Doc on 11 Sep 2012, 00:41
"What? Those were first-years. Freshmen. I TA them."

What is TA?
Tit Assault? Temporary Annihilation? Therefore: Australian? Time Agent?  Tai Analysis?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Sep 2012, 00:45
"What? Those were first-years. Freshmen. I TA them."
What is TA?
Tit Assault? Temporary Annihilation? Therefore: Australian? Time Agent?  Tai Analysis?
travel agency? tangible agenda? trache assist?

Or could it be "teacher's assistant"?  (srsly, no idea)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mordhaus on 11 Sep 2012, 00:46
"What? Those were first-years. Freshmen. I TA them."

What is TA?
Tit Assault? Temporary Annihilation? Therefore: Australian? Time Agent?  Tai Analysis?

Teaching Assistant.

Basically as Colleges get larger and more kids attend, it becomes necessary to allow graduate students to fill in for teachers on introductory courses.

Here is a better description: http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/archives/000022.htm
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Sep 2012, 00:48
I didn't know either, and decided to google.

And got the same link as Mordhaus posted above.

I kind of just scanned over it, figuring it would be something like that, without having actually figured out exactly what it stood for. Then totally forgot it was even there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Sep 2012, 02:15
Yup. Gotta make them graduate students do something useful to earn their keep (been there, done it). They(we) also get some experience teaching at college level, and more often than not enjoy doing it (breaks the monotone of dissertation research/reading). Win-win, largely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 11 Sep 2012, 03:22
Ahahahaha the sad thing is Marten is right, poor Claire. That is a terrible bag.

I continue to like dat Gabby.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 11 Sep 2012, 06:26
Oh Claire.  Dear.

I don't think I've see a college aged white girl with a hello kitty bag.  Asians?  Definitely.

Vintage?  Only if Hello Kitty has gone out of style in Japan.  I'm afraid it hasn't.


And agreed on college freshman.  Little pricks looked younger and younger when I was in college only a year ago and they got nastier and nastier attitudes too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2012, 06:35
Well, if Marten is still wearing the Hello Kitty belt, he doesn't have a skinny-jeaned leg to stand on.

[Even though that's not Hello Kitty on Claire's purse, but Boner(less)cat.]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Sep 2012, 06:38
Oh Claire.  Dear.

I don't think I've see a college aged white girl with a hello kitty bag.  Asians?  Definitely.
I have. Though she is obsessed with Asian cultures, so I guess it's not surprising.

Quote
Vintage?  Only if Hello Kitty has gone out of style in Japan.  I'm afraid it hasn't.


And agreed on college freshman.  Little pricks looked younger and younger when I was in college only a year ago and they got nastier and nastier attitudes too.
And it seems like every year the college freshmen get more numerous, and dumber. I practically can't walk anywhere anymore without getting jostled by dozens of them who are staring at their cell phones while walking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2012, 06:44
Now What?

Dora's side of the story - to Faye.    17 (37.8%)
Dora's side - to Hannelore!    1 (2.2%)
Dora's side - to MARTEN!!!    6 (13.3%)
The Next Day - and everyone pretends that nothing happened.    2 (4.4%)
Faye gives Tai the 3rd degree.    1 (2.2%)
Faye sees Marten and Tai on the couch...    0 (0%)
...and breaks up with ANGUS????    2 (4.4%)
Sven realizes Dora's problem - the Bianchi Curse towards Women!    3 (6.7%)
Marigold goes on a date!    4 (8.9%)
Pintsize blows something up!    1 (2.2%)
New Meme Waffles! In both Spathe Ham and Banana Smoothie Flavors!    1 (2.2%)
And now, for something completely different.    7 (15.6%)

Total Members Voted: 45
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 11 Sep 2012, 07:06
Hopefully this is leading up to a brother and sister encounter.  I suspect Claire and Clinton dislike each other, and will demonstrate as much in an amusing way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2012, 07:22
And it seems like every year the college freshmen get more numerous, and dumber. I practically can't walk anywhere anymore without getting jostled by dozens of them who are staring at their cell phones while walking.
If only those dang kids would stay off your lawn...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Sep 2012, 07:55
Oh Claire.


No, it's "Eau Claire"...


[/Wisconsin]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 11 Sep 2012, 08:04
And it seems like every year the college freshmen get more numerous, and dumber. I practically can't walk anywhere anymore without getting jostled by dozens of them who are staring at their cell phones while walking.

Unfortunately or is that fortunately? ..... The opposite corollary is true.
The level of stupidity and ignorance in college freshmen has remained rather consistent with the hurdles presented with college applications.
The truth of the matter is that even though you the observer is not able to discern it, but you have changed quite markedly from what you were when you were a freshman.
More knowledgeable, better read and informed, more used to working in smaller groups or alone.
So it is your personal benchmarks that have changed and not the perceived changes in the younger generation.
aka Them thar kids and their newfangled teleophones and newfangled big band misic ... tarnation ....world's going to hell in a hand basket ....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 11 Sep 2012, 08:14
And it seems like every year the college freshmen get more numerous, and dumber. I practically can't walk anywhere anymore without getting jostled by dozens of them who are staring at their cell phones while walking.

Unfortunately or is that fortunately? ..... The opposite corollary is true.
The level of stupidity and ignorance in college freshmen has remained rather consistent with the hurdles presented with college applications.
The truth of the matter is that even though you the observer is not able to discern it, but you have changed quite markedly from what you were when you were a freshman.
More knowledgeable, better read and informed, more used to working in smaller groups or alone.
So it is your personal benchmarks that have changed and not the perceived changes in the younger generation.
aka Them thar kids and their newfangled teleophones and newfangled big band misic ... tarnation ....world's going to hell in a hand basket ....

Disagree entirely.  I thought this of my fellow freshman as a freshman.  And as you get higher in college, each year they get worse and it is most certainly glaringly obvious.  Not my own personal benchmarks.  And I'm talking respect.  Case in point.  Student Dining Halls.  Each year the freshman act like worse assholes to the people who make their food, etc etc.  And a growing number that don't know the words "thank you" and "excuse me".  Only thing that changed was my intelligence, not my general human compassion and decency.  Which remained top notch throughout.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Sep 2012, 08:16
Them thar kids and their newfangled teleophones and newfangled big band misic ... tarnation ....world's going to hell in a hand basket ....

You forgot "GET OFFA MY LAWN, DAMMIT!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Bachi-Atari on 11 Sep 2012, 08:25
1.  Faye needs to chill the hell out, there's no excuse for her rage.

2.  Where can I get one of those "vintage" bonercat bags?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2012, 08:52
And it seems like every year the college freshmen get more numerous, and dumber. I practically can't walk anywhere anymore without getting jostled by dozens of them who are staring at their cell phones while walking.
If only those dang kids would stay off your lawn...
I was going to say, it doesn't stop once you enter the workplace, either ... but that's not fair. My last couple years at The Place of Brain Suck featured the usual crop of young'uns, about half of whom were talented and gave a damn. Of the remainder, half did an inoffensive job keeping their desks from blowing away and there were a few -- one especially -- entitled little @$$holes who exhibited all the stereotypes bewailed herein. Since that minority is the loudest, however, that's what we fogeys remember.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2012, 09:24
Red Tank Top Student stood out for some reason. I truly don't know why -- it must be one of the mysteries of cartooning why some characters look more interesting and real than others.

So far everything that's actually happened between Tai and Dora (Tai infatuated, Tai impulsive, Dora confused) follows from long-rooted foreshadowing and characterization.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 11 Sep 2012, 09:35
Red Tank Top Student stood out for some reason. I truly don't know why -- it must be one of the mysteries of cartooning why some characters look more interesting and real than others.

So far everything that's actually happened between Tai and Dora (Tai infatuated, Tai impulsive, Dora confused) follows from long-rooted foreshadowing and characterization.

Agreed.  She looks intriguing.  May be the hair style.  Can't recall if Jeph has drawn that hair style before.  Could also be the pajama pants.  Yep.  PJs.  Man, that's one thing I miss about college.  The ladies wearing PJs to class, wearing leggings... :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: billydaking on 11 Sep 2012, 09:36
The 30% joke is because of her perceived contract with QC, not due to anything else.  :-)

The primary reason why this doesn't "seem right" is because we have never seen Dora on this end of a relationship - the pursued instead of the pursuer. What really didn't help was that Tai's decision to go talk to Dora was made very suddenly, and after very little forethought.

The arc before all this was Marten training the interns while she was sitting back, getting high and watching Adventure Time, for cryin' out loud. The only time it suddenly became Dora-focused was when she ended up back at Faye and Marten's place, and Dora came over. No buildup, save a little soliloquy from her in 2214 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2214).

I think that if, in Tai and Marten's ensuing conversations, Tai would have been a little more revealing towards Marten about her desire to want to settle in to a monogamous relationship, it would have made a bit more sense.

However, she was a little bit over-hung after she made the decision - so it might be the wine talking. Which makes us all see this relationship as what happened to Marten and Vicki. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=255) ("Life-altering decisions should never be made while drunk, dummy")

I didn't even think of that...

That is a strange transition.  Getting high and watching adventure time to trying to get with the gal in therapy over relationship issues.  If you take it that way, then it backs up many of ours point in their being no direct build up. 

With Marten/Dora you had tension almost the entire time until they get together.  You could really tell how obvious that one was going to be.  Not so with Tai/Dora.  Maybe another factor is that Dora was so sure of wanting Marten (and that's the only thing we have to go on) it seems off.

I mean.  Look at this way.  Would Dora seriously consider Tai in a relationship proactively?  I mean, Tai wasn't even on her radar (outside of Tai bringing up a one night stand) until Tai come hard and heavy and had Dora reeling from the lavish attention and I think her innate and powerful desire to be pursued.

That's the thing, really. The readers know Tai better than Dora does. Dora simply knows Tai as Marten's boss-friend who hangs out with them, and probably her perception is that Tai seems nice. Nice person just asked her out. That's how people usually get together. Tai is the instigator of the two of them dating (can we even call it "dating," since they've only been out on one date?), which is unusual for reader since Dora's usually been the proactive one. But Dora's been in an unusual place--she's been taking a long look at the way she's wired. She's in a weird paradox of feelings--more aware and cautious in how she relates to people, but more open to those same people and experiences because she's trying to change her perspective. She's not going to go out of her way and pursue anybody, but she's not turn somebody down simply because she's in therapy or because she didn't think of going out with that person before.

Plus the fact that the younger, somewhat constantly stressed out Tai makes Dora feel a bit more self-confident probably helps a bit subconsciously.

As far as contrived and forced...I utterly disagree with that take. When Tai talked about her college relationships, it was always in the light of her dissatification with them, and she was blunt with her desire for a monogamous relationship (even as she struggled with what that meant). She's has been interested in Dora for a while, and didn't do anything about after Marten and Dora's breakup until both Marten and Dora seemed to have move on. To me, it was obvious that Tai would eventually take this step given where she's been , and know how Tai can be random, it would occur out of the blue. The build-up has been there, it's just been character-driven rather than plot-driven, so it's been spread out over the comic, with the massive Dora-Marten breakup and drama in between (not to mention the long space station story). 

Also...it's been one date. In real life, my friends and I don't stress as much as this board does over one date.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: helloandgoodbye on 11 Sep 2012, 09:54
Miss Gabby?

Why not just Gabby?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2012, 10:03
Maybe there are lingering traces of the cultural idea of addressing teachers with "respect language"?

Dora didn't exactly turn Jim down, but it was something pretty close.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mothykins on 11 Sep 2012, 12:31
Red Tank Top Student's shirt is a very deep, bright, bold shade of red. Catches the eye.

Also, Gabby's face in the last panel~ x3 Dat face is so adorable for some reason.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2012, 12:39
Red Tank Top Student appears to be stealing Annette's wallet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 11 Sep 2012, 13:16
I thought maybe it was a very light fanny pat, hopefully between friends.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mothykins on 11 Sep 2012, 13:19
Um. Pretty sure it's just perspective. RTTS is behind BT-sS from the "camera view". Her hand is down by her side, prolly next to BT-sS's hip/butt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Sep 2012, 13:44
I thought maybe it was a very light fanny pat, hopefully between friends.

It took me a while to realise what you meant, then remembered that 'fanny' would probably get less of an embarrassed silence around the table wherever you are than it would in the UK.
Title: Pajamallama
Post by: altheora on 11 Sep 2012, 13:56
My friend and I agree.

We want to know more about the girl in the pajamabottoms. She looks so peppy and happy and comfy. :3
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 11 Sep 2012, 14:12
I thought maybe it was a very light fanny pat, hopefully between friends.

It took me a while to realise what you meant, then remembered that 'fanny' would probably get less of an embarrassed silence around the table wherever you are than it would in the UK.
You're right, and I'd forgotten. I raised eyebrows in early March when I described a favorite mug from 25 years ago, inscribed "Love is a passing fanny."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2012, 14:34
Would someone please explain why RTTG is wearing her pajama bottoms to class??!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: no one special on 11 Sep 2012, 14:46
I think that if, in Tai and Marten's ensuing conversations, Tai would have been a little more revealing towards Marten about her desire to want to settle in to a monogamous relationship, it would have made a bit more sense.

Tai's been quite open about her desire for a monogamous relationship for quite a while now - especially to Marten.  No more fucking for fun's sake, she wants something more.  That's why it's didn't seem weird when she talked to Dora right after the date with Jim. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1969)  Her reaction is all due to the fact that she doesn't want to just sleep with Dora, she wants a relationship with her.  She basically had a chance to bring up the idea, and turned it down.  Her desire for monogamy had been well established at this point, so it all made sense.

Speaking of Dora's date with Jim - looking back, it's interesting how comparatively demurely she dressed, (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1953) compared to how she dressed for her date with Tai.  Talk about tailoring your look for the situation  :)

 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Sep 2012, 14:55
A friend at work once offered to get me a Hello Kitty sweatband on the condition that I wear it during my first marathon.

Naturally, I accepted.

Unfortunately, she did not find one in time. ):
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 11 Sep 2012, 15:01
it doesn't feel organic at all. It feels more like Dora going out with her because why the hell not?

Exactly. This is a slice of life comic, and sometimes life is like that - doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason.

You misinterpreted what I meant. I meant it feels like Dora was put with Tai just because, not because I believe real life isn't like that. Hope that clarified.

As for today's current strip, Gabby is rapidly becoming one of my favorite newer cast members added to the comic. Hope to see more of her!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 11 Sep 2012, 15:03
As for today's current strip, Annette is rapidly becoming one of my favorite newer cast members added to the comic. Hope to see more of her!  :-D
Wow, you're fast, given that it's the first time she appears in the comic and said only three words.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2012, 15:20
Maybe there are lingering traces of the cultural idea of addressing teachers with "respect language"?
"Miss Gabby" sounds strange, like a servant addressing the daughter of the house, but possibly it is an awkward compromise between the <title><surname> (or <surname><title> where I come from) traditional between student and teacher, and the "Call me Gabby" that Gabby-the-TA probably insisted upon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 11 Sep 2012, 15:31
Would someone please explain why RTTG is wearing her pajama bottoms to class??!!

Is that weird? At my first college, people wore PJ bottoms to class fairly often (including me). Also to be fair, we don't know that they're going to class.

I thought maybe it was a very light fanny pat, hopefully between friends.

It kinda looks like the girls might've been holding hands before Gabby spoke to one of them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 11 Sep 2012, 15:36
As for today's current strip, Annette is rapidly becoming one of my favorite newer cast members added to the comic. Hope to see more of her!  :-D
Wow, you're fast, given that it's the first time she appears in the comic and said only three words.

lol My brain was on auto-pilot from work and I typed Annette even though I was referring to Gabby.  My bad!  :psyduck:
Title: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2012, 16:33
Oh Claire.
No, it's "Eau Claire"...

[/Wisconsin]

A river runs through her?

And does that mean she is the most nonsensical being in the known Universe: the Blugold???
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2012, 16:38
And does that mean she is the most nonsensical being in the known Universe: the Blugold[/]???
She might come from outer space: "Au claire de la lune".
Title: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2012, 16:45
It's a joke only people familiar with the UW System and the WIAC would understand.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ponderch3rry on 11 Sep 2012, 17:56
Sorry, what does ""I TA them", mean? I've not heard that phrase before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2012, 18:14
Answered earlier in this thread. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28263.msg1100029.html#msg1100029)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 11 Sep 2012, 18:26
Would someone please explain why RTTG is wearing her pajama bottoms to class??!!

Is that weird? At my first college, people wore PJ bottoms to class fairly often (including me). Also to be fair, we don't know that they're going to class.

I thought maybe it was a very light fanny pat, hopefully between friends.

It kinda looks like the girls might've been holding hands before Gabby spoke to one of them.

I think it is just a matter of depth separating the characters.  RTTG is a few steps ahead and is turning back.  Defo not a butt pat as it is the outter part of her hand facing us I think, not the palm of her hand.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 11 Sep 2012, 19:02
I think I may have patted a bottom with the back of my hand once or twice. Not as pleasant as the usual way. But I too may be misreading the depth.

Sorry, what does ""I TA them", mean? I've not heard that phrase before.
TA in this usage, if I understand correctly, is a transitive verb made out of the phrase "teaching assistant," similar to  "ship" and "shipping," in forum usage a transitive verb from "relationship."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ponderch3rry on 11 Sep 2012, 19:54
Sorry, what does ""I TA them", mean? I've not heard that phrase before.
TA in this usage, if I understand correctly, is a transitive verb made out of the phrase "teaching assistant," similar to  "ship" and "shipping," in forum usage a transitive verb from "relationship."

Thanks! I kind of thought that's what Jeph was getting at, but I didn't know if it was an American term so I guess I over thought it a bit :P

Answered earlier in this thread. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28263.msg1100029.html#msg1100029)

Sorry, I must have head-up-ass disease because for some reason I thought the convo about today's strip started on the 3rd page :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 11 Sep 2012, 20:37
it doesn't feel organic at all. It feels more like Dora going out with her because why the hell not?

Exactly. This is a slice of life comic, and sometimes life is like that - doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason.

You misinterpreted what I meant. I meant it feels like Dora was put with Tai just because, not because I believe real life isn't like that. Hope that clarified.

Except that "just because" is often an "organic" motivation for things taking place.

The dynamics of Tai hooking up with Dora, at the base level, don't seem, to me, all that different from Dora hooking up with Marten. Faye and Marten are a thing, they break up, Dora (Faye's boss?) picks up the slack, new relationship. This is the reverse order of same mechanics.

Different people, different circumstances? Well yes, obviously, and it's happening in a shorter span of time. More contrived? Not particularly, no, in that having a limited cast of interacting characters means most things will be contrived on some level simply because of the limitations in place.

There's nothing wrong with disliking the relationship or the arc - we all have our favorites and preferences. As far as the writing goes, though, it's no more or less "believable" than the earlier relationships in the strip from where I sit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 11 Sep 2012, 20:53
Erm.

What?

I can't tell if you're being serious or using a parallel poorly, but Marten and Faye were never together....not even close.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Sep 2012, 21:18
I can't tell if you're being serious or using a parallel poorly, but Marten and Faye were never together....not even close.

My interpretation of Shjade's post is that the common factor in both relationships is that, prior to each relationship starting, the initiator in each case was unable to make a move because the object of their affections was interested in someone else at the time (even though in one case the relationship never actually got started).

But their interest was obvious to the reader each time, even though they could not immediately act on it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 11 Sep 2012, 21:23
New strip up!  Geez, how strong is Faye, anyways?  Could she be Power Girl in disguise?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 11 Sep 2012, 21:25
I knew it, but I didn't want to post lest I jinx it. 

Faye's why I keep coming back to this strip.  She is The Best.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Sep 2012, 21:27
Well, that worked out a lot better for Angus than at least some of us were expecting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2012, 21:32
Faye and Marten were not touching, but were in a closely bound orbit. Faye hinted more than once that she reciprocated Marten's feelings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2012, 22:06
Hmmmm

Would that qualify as "Rage Sex'   :-D



I wonder if Angus will have bruises?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 11 Sep 2012, 22:09
I can't tell if you're being serious or using a parallel poorly, but Marten and Faye were never together....not even close.

My interpretation of Shjade's post is that the common factor in both relationships is that, prior to each relationship starting, the initiator in each case was unable to make a move because the object of their affections was interested in someone else at the time (even though in one case the relationship never actually got started).

But their interest was obvious to the reader each time, even though they could not immediately act on it.

This. There's a reason I said Faye and Marten were "a thing" without being specific as to exactly what that thing was. Whatever it was, Dora (Faye's boss) couldn't reasonably make a move on Marten until it was settled.

Edit: ohno my precious lurker status has been compromised ohnooo
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 11 Sep 2012, 22:09
I knew it, but I didn't want to post lest I jinx it. 

Faye's why I keep coming back to this strip.  She is The Best.

quoted for motherfucking Angusfucking truth

that last panel was just like simultaneous "HahahahaWOO" and "awww <3~" (yes the tilde is included)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Sep 2012, 22:14
I wonder if Angus will have bruises?

Probably.  I just hope his eyes uncross...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 11 Sep 2012, 22:19
If QC was a bit more cartoony in its art style, Angus would probably have a fair few stars circling his head right now. :P

As a side note: No specials on the blackboard? I bet if Dora put the hammer brand of banana smoothie up there, she'd make a killing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 11 Sep 2012, 22:30
It's probably on the secret menu.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Sep 2012, 22:52
I wonder if Angus will have bruises?

Probably.  I just hope his eyes uncross...

Yeah. He can't go to work like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 11 Sep 2012, 23:07
I wonder if Angus will have bruises?

Probably.  I just hope his eyes uncross...

Yeah. He can't go to work like that.
Somehow, I think walking is out of the question...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 12 Sep 2012, 00:09
Oh god she broke Angus,

My god, I've never seen someone go cross eyed after sex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Sep 2012, 00:15
Angry sex is never best sex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 12 Sep 2012, 00:39
Oh god she broke Angus,

And you can bet he enjoyed it.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: no one special on 12 Sep 2012, 02:31
My god, I've never seen someone go cross eyed after sex.
Seen it?  Hell, I've been the person who went cross-eyed after sex.  It's an awesome thing - a sign that your world just got r-o-c-k-e-d.

Angry sex is never best sex.
Nah, this wasn't angry sex.  Angry sex is what she had with Sven, I'm sure, at times.  She's not angry AT Angus, so it's not really angry sex per se.  Besides, it's not she's really mad at anyone, she's just got some pent-up energy to work off.  It's like when people go work out or run or go cycling when they need to "work off' whatever they're feeling.  Catharsis through physical exertion is the name of the game - and sex is a great way to make it happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 12 Sep 2012, 03:31
Angry sex is never best sex.
Rage sex in this case, I believe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 12 Sep 2012, 05:35
Well, there are definitely worse ways to start the day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 12 Sep 2012, 05:38
Oooo.  Rage sex.  Careful, Faye.  Too much rage sex or too strong rage sex can put a man's jewels in some serious discomfort for awhile. :cry:  Been there before.  It can really hurt.



Anyway, I think there's a difference between contrived and forced.  I think forced is a little better word.  Contrived harkens more to poor writing usually.  When you say forced, I tend to think more within the bounds of the actual story and interpretations of characters and motivations.  Again, it'd be more natural to me or more interesting if Dora had been proactive in choosing someone under her own will without being reeled in with a sucker punch of compliments.  That's just my own personal preference though.  I'll try and refrain from going on about Dora/Tai stuff though until we actual get a more firm grasp of the direction they're going in.  I just hope we slip into a new arc after this week though and push their relationship to the back burner.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 12 Sep 2012, 05:50
New strip up!  Geez, how strong is Faye, anyways?  Could she be Power Girl in disguise?
Somehow I always imagine her as Chun-Li, with kikoken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-DvDgfG6rI) powered by excess rage.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 12 Sep 2012, 05:59
New strip up!  Geez, how strong is Faye, anyways?  Could she be Power Girl in disguise?
Somehow I always imagine her as Chun-Li, with kikoken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-DvDgfG6rI) powered by excess rage.

Definitely a better choice.  Good god did they put some massive things on Chun-Li.  Totally forgot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Sep 2012, 06:12
Now What?

Dora's side of the story - to Faye.    17 (30.9%)
Dora's side - to Hannelore!    1 (1.8%)
Dora's side - to MARTEN!!!    7 (12.7%)
The Next Day - and everyone pretends that nothing happened.    2 (3.6%)
Faye gives Tai the 3rd degree.    1 (1.8%)
Faye sees Marten and Tai on the couch...    0 (0%)
...and breaks up with ANGUS????    2 (3.6%)
Sven realizes Dora's problem - the Bianchi Curse towards Women!    5 (9.1%)
Marigold goes on a date!    6 (10.9%)
Pintsize blows something up!    2 (3.6%)
New Meme Waffles! In both Spathe Ham and Banana Smoothie Flavors!    2 (3.6%)
And now, for something completely different.    10 (18.2%)

Total Members Voted: 55
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zemyla on 12 Sep 2012, 07:01
Wait, is Faye a Minecraft character?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 12 Sep 2012, 07:05
Wait, is Faye a Minecraft character?

Yeah, everything about her is secretly square, The reason Angus is cross eyed is because he got smacked in the head with a sharp edge of Faye's left boob.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 12 Sep 2012, 07:21
Inb4 someone making cross-eyed Angus his avatar.

edit:
Btw... whatever happened to Tai's anchor tattoo (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1211)? It seems to have disappeared in more recent strips (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=2265). ... °O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Sep 2012, 09:20
It was a temporary one? 

It was white, and shallow, and so it faded? 

It's higher on her shoulder, so it only shows in tank tops? 

Jeph's forgotten all about it? 

All of the above? 

None of the above? 

Some of the above? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: idontunderstand on 12 Sep 2012, 09:21
Or ONE of the above???
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 12 Sep 2012, 09:25
New strip up!  Geez, how strong is Faye, anyways?  Could she be Power Girl in disguise?
Is it more or less likely that the damage she sustained in that car accident was more extensive than previously intimated and that one or more of her limbs are actually partially robotic?

Yeah we do have Clinton who leaves the cover off as a statement, but we don't know what other options are available, or how realistic they are…

Meta edit: on tattoos; perhaps it's a technological issue? What if "modern" tattoos in QCland are battery powered and fade if you forget to recharge them. And Tai can't afford the fancy recharger bed so she has to use the patches which are uncomfortable and annoying.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Sep 2012, 09:27
Oooh, a light up anchor? 

I like it. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: idontunderstand on 12 Sep 2012, 09:32
On another note: Faye's scar?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Sep 2012, 09:38
Under the forearm crossing the chest to adjust the bra.  We saw the top of it peeking from her tank top here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 12 Sep 2012, 09:46
I'd just like to salute Jeph for his great amount of fan service today:

-A Hannelore appearance
-A Claire appearance
-A banana smoothie joke
-Faye in her underwear

The only thing missing was a list of specials on the chalkboard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Sep 2012, 09:47
Is it more or less likely that the damage she sustained in that car accident was more extensive than previously intimated and that one or more of her limbs are actually partially robotic?

Likely or not, it makes perfect sense. Remember that the EMTs wondered why she had survived at all.

That's good enough to put in the Speculation section of Faye's article on the wiki. Want to add it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 12 Sep 2012, 10:54
Within the boundaries Jeph's created, i'd say that's entirely possible and would make a pretty neat twist. Maybe it's not her arm though, maybe because of the severity of her chest injury, she's got something mechanical under her ribs?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pendrake on 12 Sep 2012, 11:59
For comic #2273...


1. Seeing Claire and Hannelore, I think it will be interesting to see if (& how) a relationship between the two develops, considering the ties to Clinton too.

2. I cannot remember the last time I was so positively/pleasurably used for venting excess rage :cry: .

3. For girls, you know you have probably done right when the guy you are with comes away cross-eyed.

4. For guys, you also know you have probably done right when the girl you are with comes away sweaty and satisfied 8-) .

5. @iduguphergrave... Missiles (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=131), after she got stabbed in robo-prison (#0131) (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=131).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 12 Sep 2012, 12:21
edit:
Btw... whatever happened to Tai's anchor tattoo (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1211)? It seems to have disappeared in more recent strips (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=2265). ... °O
Maybe it's a news anchor? Those can disappear from screens for no apparent reasons.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 12 Sep 2012, 13:17
Within the boundaries Jeph's created, i'd say that's entirely possible and would make a pretty neat twist. Maybe it's not her arm though, maybe because of the severity of her chest injury, she's got something mechanical under her ribs?

ROBO-BOOBS

it might explain their mysterious (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1332) powers (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1871)...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Sep 2012, 13:30
Within the boundaries Jeph's created, i'd say that's entirely possible and would make a pretty neat twist. Maybe it's not her arm though, maybe because of the severity of her chest injury, she's got something mechanical under her ribs?


A mechanical heart?  How steampunk!  Or tin-mannish?


No wonder she has commitment issues...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 12 Sep 2012, 14:49
Is it more or less likely that the damage she sustained in that car accident was more extensive than previously intimated and that one or more of her limbs are actually partially robotic?
Authoritative male voice-over: "Faye Whitaker, a girl barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild her. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic barista. Faye Whitaker will be that girl. Better than she was before. Better...stronger...faster." Cue slo-mo of Faye in a track-suit running towards the camera...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Sep 2012, 15:01
Maybe they're fuel-cell powered and that's why she needs so much alcohol.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 12 Sep 2012, 17:03
Is it more or less likely that the damage she sustained in that car accident was more extensive than previously intimated and that one or more of her limbs are actually partially robotic?
Authoritative male voice-over: "Faye Whitaker, a girl barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild her. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic barista. Faye Whitaker will be that girl. Better than she was before. Better...stronger...faster." Cue slo-mo of Faye in a track-suit running towards the camera...

Or maybe... "Better... stronger... snarkier."
Slo-mo of CoD customer being jolted by snark.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Midwesterner on 12 Sep 2012, 17:08
I personally think it would have been a bit more believable if you introduce a new girl that Dora just meets on her own and really digs her off the bat and tries a date than mackin' all of a sudden on Tai.

I just had one of those random flashbacks from the past: Anyone remember Amanda Whitaker? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=167) While that obviously didn't go anywhere besides hinting at Faye's past, I wonder if we'll ever see her again. (So how about this Kerry guy's chances in November?)


Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 12 Sep 2012, 18:22
She might be a good fit for Tai... not Dora.  She'd be worse than Tai for Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 12 Sep 2012, 18:33
I just had one of those random flashbacks from the past: Anyone remember Amanda Whitaker? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=167) While that obviously didn't go anywhere besides hinting at Faye's past, I wonder if we'll ever see her again. (So how about this Kerry guy's chances in November?)
I remember her, and I think I may have once thought of her as a possible pairing with Tai. But no. Just no.

EDIT: I just noticed a drop of sweat on Faye's left cheek. This, combined with her relaxed expression, makes this panel actually very sweet and sexy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 12 Sep 2012, 20:06
(Video of lights and dials on espresso machine)
FAYE (VO): Looking good at CoD One.
PENELOPE (VO): Roger.
FAYE (VO): Bean grinder ARM switch is on, milk steamer is on. Here comes the hot water.
PENELOPE (VO): We have hydration.
(Video of coffee mug)
FAYE (VO): Donuts and muffins are on, coming forward on the coffee mug.
PENELOPE (VO): Roger.
FAYE (VO): I've got a blowout! And who the hell's Roger?
PENELOPE (VO): Set your pressure to zero!
FAYE (VO): Pressure's out, I can't hold temperature.
PENELOPE (VO): Set selector to house blend.
FAYE (VO): DORACOM, I can't hold her, she's breaking up, she's ...
(Video of espresso machine exploding. Inexplicably, it's a different machine.)
Authoritative male voice-over: "Faye Whitaker, a girl barely alive. Gentlemen, we can rebuild her. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic barista. Faye Whitaker will be that girl. Better than she was before. Better...stronger...faster." Cue slo-mo of Faye in a track-suit running towards the camera...
DORA: Never mind her! What about my coffee machine?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Sep 2012, 20:47
I was wondering where Emily was yesterday (seems odd to take two of the three interns) and now Gabby's mysteriously off-screen as well.  THE PLOT THICKENS (like a banana smoothie).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: idontunderstand on 13 Sep 2012, 01:09
Under the forearm crossing the chest to adjust the bra.  We saw the top of it peeking from her tank top here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2262).

D'oh!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Sep 2012, 01:56
Quote
jephjacques Okay, ONE good thing happened today. I got my Presonus audio interface working again. (still no idea what today's comic is gonna be)

Random Yelling Bird strip. Calling it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 13 Sep 2012, 02:59
Close. Guest strip.

Should keep the Hanners fans happy. Maybe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: no one special on 13 Sep 2012, 03:20
Somehow I always imagine her as Chun-Li, with kikoken (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-DvDgfG6rI) powered by excess rage.

Definitely a better choice.  Good god did they put some massive things on Chun-Li.  Totally forgot.

What, her quads and calves?  Oh, totally, they are friggin' HUGE!  Creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 13 Sep 2012, 05:27
She might be a good fit for Tai... not Dora.  She'd be worse than Tai for Dora.

I do believe she was also 17 in her intro strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 13 Sep 2012, 06:43
(Video of espresso machine exploding. Inexplicably, it's a different machine.)
And I thought I was nerdy...

Get well soon, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 13 Sep 2012, 08:44
What's that special?  "erema"?  "crema"?  Oh, "enema"?!  Sheesh!

... worse thing, it could end up their most popular special ... if the wrong crowd gets wind of it ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 13 Sep 2012, 11:03
(Video of espresso machine exploding. Inexplicably, it's a different machine.)
And I thought I was nerdy...

Get well soon, Jeph!

You are. I've just had more experience.
Also, get well soon, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Ph2 on 13 Sep 2012, 11:47
edit:
Btw... whatever happened to Tai's anchor tattoo (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1211)? It seems to have disappeared in more recent strips (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=2265). ... °O

I swear that Jeph answered this in one of his Tumblr dumps, though I cannot find it for some reason. If I recall correctly he something to the effect of:
"I decided I didn't like it." Something like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Sep 2012, 12:44
I do believe she was also 17 in her intro strip.

She was in college and didn't seem bright enough to have gotten in early, but on the other hand Dora did say something about "statutory rape".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Sep 2012, 14:09
Depending on the school district's rules, it is possible to graduate high school and begin college at 17 without skipping a grade. In the school district I went to the rule for starting kindergarten was you had to turn 5 by December 31. My birthday is in December, which means I began kindergarten when I was 4, and so I graduated high school when I was 17. I turned 18 in December of my first year in college.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Sep 2012, 15:05
By now, Amanda is likely in her 20's and probably either finishing up school or long since gone from it.

The amount of people battling depression this time of year is noticeable, if not slightly alarming. Yes, the events of 11 years ago might have something to do with it in some circles, but still.

It doesn't help that the weather has changed a bit, especially in my neck of the woods - literally; we have a frost warning out for tonight, as it's actually going to get down below freezing in some areas.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 13 Sep 2012, 18:18
RUN, Angus!!
...Or not!

Just wanted you to know that your comment was the first thing I thought of when I read #2273.  Having laughed at the comment when it was new, I was amused all over again that Angus was indeed the target but in such a favorable fashion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Sep 2012, 18:27
Best way of dealing with excess rage?

Punching things. HARD.    3 (7.7%)
Hammers and nails and wooden boards.    0 (0%)
"Nailing" like Faye and Angus.    21 (53.8%)
Hammers to banana smoothies.    2 (5.1%)
Demoliton Derby.    1 (2.6%)
Roller Derby.    1 (2.6%)
Kneading dough.    0 (0%)
Kneeing the Dope.    0 (0%)
Sudden Onset Tourettes in the town square.    0 (0%)
Nailing your boss's brother.    1 (2.6%)
Smashing Pumpkins (not Billy Corrigan).    0 (0%)
Launching golf balls into space.    5 (12.8%)  <--- Good to see there are four other Wapsi Square (http://wapsisquare.com/comic/what-was-that/) fans on here.
Slap shots to the goalie's groin.    1 (2.6%)
Something else.    4 (10.3%)

Total Members Voted: 39
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 13 Sep 2012, 18:37
(Video of lights and dials on espresso machine)

Magnificent.  All it's missing is the drums.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Omega Entity on 13 Sep 2012, 18:57
Depending on the school district's rules, it is possible to graduate high school and begin college at 17 without skipping a grade. In the school district I went to the rule for starting kindergarten was you had to turn 5 by December 31. My birthday is in December, which means I began kindergarten when I was 4, and so I graduated high school when I was 17. I turned 18 in December of my first year in college.

This. I didn't turn 18 until my first year of college, in late October. Then there's dual-enrollment to factor in - technically I was a college student around 15-16 because of that. On the plus side, I did have my English 101 and 102 and my first year of Japanese done before I graduated, and all on the school's dime besides the textbooks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Sep 2012, 20:32
Comic.

 :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 13 Sep 2012, 20:38
The concernbrag, the humblebrag's douchey best friend that pretends to have your interests at heart.  Marigold handled that perfectly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ElvisRevenge on 13 Sep 2012, 21:05
Man, I can't imagine jerkin it with a robot in the room, turned on or off.

I kinda hope the next comic is Momo being pissed about it and having a civil discussion with Marigold about it.

shlup shlup shlup
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 13 Sep 2012, 21:08
LOL Well know we know Marigold likes it from the back.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: helloandgoodbye on 13 Sep 2012, 21:14
While this comic was funny, it seemed rather...OOC for Marigold.

I know she's not like Hanners, but I thought she would be kind of reserved/embarrassed about that kind of thing?  I GUESS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 13 Sep 2012, 21:18
Marigold could be QC's demonstration of "nice person pushed too far, then snaps." I've seen it, I've been there, and I've worked with people who refused to believe in it until it blew up in their faces.

Interesting dynamic in that apartment, though. Douchiness rolls downhill. Plenty of reasons to want to take Angus out for a what-the-hell talk for the way he manipulates people for amusement, but Marigold's attitude toward Momo since she upgraded her chassis has been one of neglect and resentment. Jeph's setting the stage for something, but as usual, it'll take a while to mature and it probably won't be a big blowup. But it could.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 13 Sep 2012, 21:20
Another 17 year old university freshman here.  I was only one for a month and a half however, since my birthday is in  mid October. Boy that was a long time ago.  Jeph was starting kindergarten when I was a freshman.

I dunno, was Momo's comment implying that Marigold was being a bit hypocritical, or that she wasn't masturbating at all?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 13 Sep 2012, 21:21
While this comic was funny, it seemed rather...OOC for Marigold.

I know she's not like Hanners, but I thought she would be kind of reserved/embarrassed about that kind of thing?  I GUESS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG.  :psyduck:

This is the same girl who is obsessed with yaoi. I doubt she would be so reserved about sexual type things especially when it's a guarantee she looks at hentai and yaoi on a daily basis. Also, Marigold brought up a good point.  You don't always have to let people know about what's going on in your sex life when it's obvious as hell. I remember when I was stationed on Okinawa (Air Force), and my buddy would bring his girlfriend back to his room. Of course since he was next door, I could hear all the screaming and sex going on but I never made a mention of it when I saw him later that day. It was an unspoken understanding. I totally understand where Mari is coming from.

ON THE OTHER HAND THOUGH
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 13 Sep 2012, 21:24
BTW, anyone else notice that the symbol on Marigold's shirt is also a reference to a certain position, if you tilt your head the right way?

(This post is brought to you by "The Politics of Dancing" by Re-flex.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Sep 2012, 21:25
<SNIP>
ON THE OTHER HAND THOUGH
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1)

Now THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is a CALLBACK.

Well played.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 13 Sep 2012, 21:35
Just read Friday's comic.  I am sure to begin masturbation in the near future.  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Sep 2012, 21:40
Make sure your AnthroPC is in the room with you. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Sep 2012, 21:50
Make sure your AnthroPC is in the room with you. ;)
You could always get the AnthroPC to participate...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Sep 2012, 21:53
Creepiness alert.

Would Marigold have done the same with a human in the room? If not, then she's not treating Momo like a human. Momo wants to be treated like a human. Conflict brewing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Yarin on 13 Sep 2012, 22:00
"PFFTHBLTH?" was she trying to summon Cthulhu  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 13 Sep 2012, 22:17
Yes, people, because there's no possible way Marigold was JOKING about all that to freak Angus out. If that were a habitual thing, Momos reaction would probably be different. Marigold is a good friend; she did surprise Momo with the trip to get a new chassis, so presumably Mar-bear was perceptive enough to realize she wasn't happy in her current body. And even though she obviously ended up paying a lot more than she'd planned to, she still bought the chassis with little hesitation. Marigold treats Momo like she treats everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 13 Sep 2012, 22:19
Marigold Farmer's Guide to Excessive Explanations (With Visual and Sound Aids).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Sep 2012, 22:41
What Gravey said. I'm pretty sure that didn't actually happen, just more of a "I don't need to know and this is what it's like when you tell me these things".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Sep 2012, 23:03
That makes perfect sense, but then I don't quite get Momo's reaction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Sep 2012, 23:13
She seems to not realize Marbear is joking, but Marbear has to be joking, since if she wasn't, Momo would've heard it and wouldn't be surprised to hear about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Omega Entity on 13 Sep 2012, 23:50
^
This.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaosWolf on 14 Sep 2012, 00:12
I strongly suspect there is a significant portion of the fanbase who now wants to see pictures of Marigold doing just what she is claiming to have done.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 14 Sep 2012, 00:16
I am not sure what is more perfect about this comic, that Marigold used the phrase "just, like, goin' crazy. On my genitals" or that she is a Karkat fangirl, because of course she'd be a Karkat fangirl

(she probably ships John/Karkat and Terezi/Karkat at the same time, in vacillating quadrants

for clarity: those are Homestuck references, because Marigold is wearing a Homestuck shirt

specifically, the shirt references this charming young fellow (http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Karkat_Vantas))
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: no one special on 14 Sep 2012, 00:30

I GUESS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG.  :psyduck:

Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: no one special on 14 Sep 2012, 00:36
I don't think that people are thinking that Marigold was REALLY telling Angus what she did.

Still, I agree that the way that she shames Angus totally seems out of character, but that's what makes it a) funny and b) hilarious.  Sometimes we're just inspired to do shit that's so "not us" - it's like when you're mad at someone and you actually think of everything you want to say right on the spot, instead of half-an-hour later when you're by yourself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 14 Sep 2012, 00:43
While this comic was funny, it seemed rather...OOC for Marigold.

I know she's not like Hanners, but I thought she would be kind of reserved/embarrassed about that kind of thing?  I GUESS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG.  :psyduck:
Hmm ? No it wasnt. Marigold isnt Hanners. And Angus annoyed her by discussing his sex life with her. She simply made a point in return. I wouldnt consider this as an example of "snaps".


[...] I don't quite get Momo's reaction.
I interpret it as: Momo has been in the room, probably connected in order to regenerate her batteries - but was shut off completely on a timer - thus she wouldnt know anything that happened during this time, but objects if Marigold masturbated during it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 14 Sep 2012, 00:58
The concernbrag, the humblebrag's douchey best friend that pretends to have your interests at heart.
Yeah... Pretty much. Somethings are better passed over in silence. Nobody really wants to hear how awesome your sex-life is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 14 Sep 2012, 01:21
comic:  :psyduck:
wcdt: :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Abyssalin on 14 Sep 2012, 01:23
This comic made me laugh immensely, I am now determined to do it next time someone goes on about their sex life..
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smarch on 14 Sep 2012, 02:10
Marigold, you are officially The Best.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 14 Sep 2012, 03:48
Marigold treats Momo like she treats everyone.

Better. If Marigold treated everyone like she treats Momo, she'd be a saint, and also broke.

(Broker. I think Momo's chassis is already putting her on a ramen regimen for some time.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 14 Sep 2012, 04:03
I can definitely see this as a "I don't care whether you're having sex or not, just don't be all up in my face about it!" sort of feeling (like hearing your parents talk about it *shudder*. You know logically it's going on, but you really (really, really) don't want to know).

This could all be a precursor to something (maybe Mar-bear misses her "science buddy" up in the space station), but that's just speculation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 14 Sep 2012, 04:11
I instantly thought she was joking to prove a point and Momo didn't get it.

I wrote my comment then double checked the recent post and basically: What techkid said. Except I nearly forgot about her space-man.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 14 Sep 2012, 04:16
While this comic was funny, it seemed rather...OOC for Marigold.

I know she's not like Hanners, but I thought she would be kind of reserved/embarrassed about that kind of thing?  I GUESS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG.  :psyduck:
Hmm ? No it wasnt. Marigold isnt Hanners. And Angus annoyed her by discussing his sex life with her. She simply made a point in return. I wouldnt consider this as an example of "snaps".
i suppose it could be a sign of character development; that she's become more confident & less prone to embarrassment in front of her friends.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 14 Sep 2012, 04:34
Let's not forget that Marigold touched a wiener. She's a woman of a Kuiper Belt object (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2164) now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 14 Sep 2012, 05:27
Marigold!
Bahahahaah!  Finally, another absolutely hilarious strip.  That butt slapping had me rolling with laughter.

Mmmm.  Talking about sex stuff?  I guess my friends and I are far too close.  Once had a 2 our discussion about sex with 3 of my roommates and a roommates girlfriend that involved whether one roommate should try and sleep with someone with massive crazy eyes.  Then it got to involve....genitals, oral, and all kinds of crap.  Needless to say the girlfriend was used as an indirect example by her boyfriend and awkwardness ensued.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Sep 2012, 05:33
for clarity: those are Homestuck references, because Marigold is wearing a Homestuck shirt

specifically, the shirt references this charming young fellow (http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Karkat_Vantas))

Actually, that's the zodiac symbol for Cancer, the crab.  Both my brother, and ironically my daughter - the one who was struck by cancer - are July babies. 

Since the homestuck guy is also clearly cancer-related, it makes sense, but ... it's more general than that! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 14 Sep 2012, 05:38
Oh, I'm not saying Marigold "has" snapped -- she's just my candidate right now for a future snap. That can and probably will change.

I'm also remembering Momo, in her OE chassis when she was more an adorable smartass/Little Mother, once threatened to tell Angus that Marigold was "dehydrated from masturbating heavily" so he would "call emergency services." No, Momo doesn't squick easily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Sep 2012, 05:46
Best way of dealing with excess rage?

Punching things. HARD.    3 (6.5%)
Hammers and nails and wooden boards.    0 (0%)
"Nailing" like Faye and Angus.    25 (54.3%)
Hammers to banana smoothies.    2 (4.3%)
Demoliton Derby.    1 (2.2%)
Roller Derby.    1 (2.2%)
Kneading dough.    1 (2.2%)
Kneeing the Dope.    0 (0%)
Sudden Onset Tourettes in the town square.    1 (2.2%)
Nailing your boss's brother.    1 (2.2%)
Smashing Pumpkins (not Billy Corrigan).    0 (0%)
Launching golf balls into space.    5 (10.9%)
Slap shots to the goalie's groin.    1 (2.2%)
Something else.    5 (10.9%)

Total Members Voted: 46
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Dr. ROFLPWN on 14 Sep 2012, 07:31
for clarity: those are Homestuck references, because Marigold is wearing a Homestuck shirt

specifically, the shirt references this charming young fellow (http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Karkat_Vantas))

Actually, that's the zodiac symbol for Cancer, the crab.  Both my brother, and ironically my daughter - the one who was struck by cancer - are July babies. 

Since the homestuck guy is also clearly cancer-related, it makes sense, but ... it's more general than that!

Yes, that is the Cancer symbol, but no, it's not more general. :P Or at least I really, really doubt it's more general. Marbear is an obsessive fan, and Homestuck collects obsessive fans like iron filings to a huge magnet. Also, the fact that it's grey on black is a giveaway (namely that fans can actually buy a shirt that looks like that).

I also recall Jeph saying on Tumblr that he thought well of Andrew Hussie, the author of said multimedia clusterfuck, but couldn't get into Homestuck himself...so I think this is a quiet tribute.

..... yeah, I'm a huge fucking nerd, fight me ._.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 14 Sep 2012, 08:03
..... yeah, I'm a huge fucking nerd, fight me ._.

Nah, we like ya too much to fight you and who would farm those mushrooms?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Sep 2012, 08:35
You know logically it's going on, but you really (really, really) don't want to know).
What? No I don't, I just logically know it has happened twice. That's it.  EVER. :-\
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Torlek on 14 Sep 2012, 08:52
While this comic was funny, it seemed rather...OOC for Marigold.

I know she's not like Hanners, but I thought she would be kind of reserved/embarrassed about that kind of thing?  I GUESS EVERYTHING I THOUGHT WAS WRONG.  :psyduck:

This is the same girl who is obsessed with yaoi. I doubt she would be so reserved about sexual type things especially when it's a guarantee she looks at hentai and yaoi on a daily basis.

This. Marigold might seem a bit reserved about sex given she's a virgin but I'd bet money she'd be perfectly comfortable with sex and talking about it if she were getting some. Right now she's just mad about it because: 1.) her roommate, whom she nursed feelings for, is getting laid and she isn't, 2.) he's not being very discreet about it. But as for her; out of shape nerd girl with hentai and yaoi obsessions who's never gotten laid, yeah, she'd be CRAZY in bed. I'm not sure if the others should conspire to bring Francis down for a visit or not. Don't want the poor boy to die from snu-snu.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Sep 2012, 09:09
I doubt he'd die.  Cross eyed, might not walk right for days, but he wouldn't die. 

Remember, he's in about the same condition she is...  I tend to think no one would see them for a week or so, and Momo'd have to find somewhere else to sleep. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Sep 2012, 09:49
Maybe end up like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ru-hvq7wA), but yeah, death seems like a bit much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 14 Sep 2012, 12:06
I'm not sure if the others should conspire to bring Francis down for a visit or not.
The most credible strategy would be maneuvering to have him invited as a guest lecturer (or whatever it's called in academia) in advanced theoretical physics at Smif. I think Station has the connections to achieve that, if Hanners asked him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 14 Sep 2012, 13:54
Can't say I am surprised by the MOTW poll. Only an adawwwable Hanners moment could be a more predictable win. Like it or lump it. Or rather, like it or shlup shlup shlup it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 14 Sep 2012, 14:04
...how did I not notice until just now the Karkat shirt?

Also, "multimedia clusterfuck" seems a much better descriptor than the usual inaccurate "webcomic."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 14 Sep 2012, 14:06
Can't say I am surprised by the MOTW poll. Only an adawwwable Hanners moment could be a more predictable win. Like it or lump it. Or rather, like it or shlup shlup shlup it.

Like it or hump it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Sep 2012, 14:09
Like it or hump it?

Or? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Renewman on 14 Sep 2012, 14:30
Like it or hump it?

Or?

Eiffel Tower Fist Bump it?  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 14 Sep 2012, 17:48
(Broker. I think Momo's chassis is already putting her on a ramen regimen for some time.)

Hopefully she can get out of it, her digestive system is gonna go bad from that diet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Sep 2012, 18:08
And Yet Another MOTW Poll:

I AM TWENTY-FOUR AND THIS IS VINTAGE (Bonercat bag FTW!)    1 (2.9%)
Crosseyed Angus! "I'm not complaining, but what brought that on?"    2 (5.7%)
"It was either that or punch a tree 'til it exploded, and the park service is still mad at me for last time."    3 (8.6%)
That's good. We were, uh, pretty loud and- "I didn't DISTURB YOU last night, did I? Because MAN."    1 (2.9%)
VRRRRR SHLUP SHLUP SHLUP RRRRR WEEE OH YEAH BABY PFFTHBLTH UNF UNF UNF MMM YEAH    20 (57.1%) <--- Kinda suspected this one was going to take all.
I was just goin' CRAZY. On my GENITALS.    5 (14.3%)
Marigold! I was in the room!    3 (8.6%)

Total Members Voted: 35
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaosWolf on 14 Sep 2012, 19:53
And Yet Another MOTW Poll:

I AM TWENTY-FOUR AND THIS IS VINTAGE (Bonercat bag FTW!)    1 (2.9%)
Crosseyed Angus! "I'm not complaining, but what brought that on?"    2 (5.7%)
"It was either that or punch a tree 'til it exploded, and the park service is still mad at me for last time."    3 (8.6%)
That's good. We were, uh, pretty loud and- "I didn't DISTURB YOU last night, did I? Because MAN."    1 (2.9%)
VRRRRR SHLUP SHLUP SHLUP RRRRR WEEE OH YEAH BABY PFFTHBLTH UNF UNF UNF MMM YEAH    20 (57.1%) <--- Kinda suspected this one was going to take all.
I was just goin' CRAZY. On my GENITALS.    5 (14.3%)
Marigold! I was in the room!    3 (8.6%)

Total Members Voted: 35

Took off like a f##king rocket, didn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2271-75 (10-14 September 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Sep 2012, 20:59
Momo offered to cook healthy meals for Marigirl and might even get her out for walks, if not actually being a workout partner. Buying Momo's new chassis was an act of pure generosity but she stands to benefit from it. Especially if Momo has the concept of giri.