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Title: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lupercal on 01 Nov 2012, 16:04
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So there's been a lot of news lately.

One tiny particle of that news has been about George Lucas selling Lucasfilm to Disney for just over $4 billion.

Disney have said that feature films will most definitely be a part of their taking-over of Lucasfilm (and expect Indiana Jones at some point, I guess) and that a "new feature film" will be released in 2015. Whether this will be entitled "Episode VII" is another story. Lucas is staying on as creative consultant, but I suppose the exciting part is that if a decent director is brought in, this new movie (and supposedly, new trilogy) could be brilliant. Out of Lucas's hands, it might be more cohesive than the last trilogy that was released. (Personally, II & III were brilliant, I is getting more annoying to watch as I age, and Hayden Christensen is a terrible, terrible actor)

Essentially, Disney seemed to have let their various money-making factions that they've aquired over the years a lot of independence. Marvel have had their ups and downs, but its been ups since Iron Man came out. Then there's the Pixar thing, with Cars, Toy Story, all that. Very successful. Avengers just pulled in record figures. Its a good time to be a part of that, I think. Disney are obviously a corporation after franchises that they can milk forever more, and while I hate that Star Wars is going to be involved in that, I also love it. It needs a good vision from someone who isn't also writing and directing the thing, surrounded by yes men. A fresh vision could 'reboot' Star Wars in a very good way.

Also, they're talking TV series and a hell of a lot of other stuff. I'm quite excited, but the buyout in general has been interesting, although rather inevitable when you think about it.

I also have no idea where the plot will go for a new film, or who will be in it. I hope that the guys in charge have the clairvoyance to NOT get all the old actors in (Harrison Ford is NEVER coming back), and just do something new. Lots of Expanded Universe stuff to draw from but stuff like the Thrawn or Jedi Academy trilogy rely far too much on Luke Skywalker being the new self-appointed head of the New Jedi Order.

Anyway, geeking out here.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 01 Nov 2012, 20:06
I could see Harrison Ford doing a cameo (as a different character than his signature ones) in either Indy or SW.

And I think the whole concept of Disney-Star Wars is good, because you're right, they do give a lot of creative control. The current co-president of Lucasfilm, Kathleen Kennedy, is staying on as President of the newly acquired division, and is in charge of Brand Management of the Star Wars franchise. Disney's smart enough to know not to piss off millions of die-hard Star Wars fanatics.

tl;dr: Me gusta.
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Post by: Kugai on 01 Nov 2012, 22:29
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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 01 Nov 2012, 23:26
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Are those good dots or bad dots? Or do you not like Star Wars? (I feel sorry for you if that's the case)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: ackblom12 on 02 Nov 2012, 02:14
I have no problems with this for two reasons:

1. Disney won't ruin Star Wars. Star Wars was ruined years ago. Since I haven't had any hope of interesting Star Wars related media for 10 years or so, this hurts me none at all. Also, nothing they do will harm the original trilogy, which leads into...

2. I guarantee you the original theatrical release of Episodes IV - VI will get released on Blu-Ray because Disney loves money.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Thrillho on 02 Nov 2012, 04:57
Whatever they do, it can't be worse than the prequel trilogy. It just can't.

Also I am baffled by someone saying they liked the second one.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lines on 02 Nov 2012, 06:17
2. I guarantee you the original theatrical release of Episodes IV - VI will get released on Blu-Ray because Disney loves money.

I want this to happen so bad. I hate that the only version of the original trilogy I have is what my mom and I taped off of the television, so it's really crappy quality VHS. And apparently missing a few scenes, which I didn't notice until recently. I hate the ones with the added special effects because they look so out of place and I would prefer a few plot holes or whatever to an interrupt in the flow of the movie.

As for the prequels, I liked Liam Neeson as a jedi, I liked Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan, and I liked most of the third movie (if not all of the acting, but definitely the plot). Also they were pretty and Natalie Portman had some really cool costumes. And...that's about as much as I liked.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 02 Nov 2012, 06:41
"Love can't save you...only my new powers can do that!" He sounds like a satisfied customer on a Billy Mays Sith-powers infomercial.

I just hope that Disney doesn't pull their "Vault" crap with Star Wars...that kind of thinking only increases piracy, and keeps me from getting the quality goods I want.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Nov 2012, 06:59
Should this really be in a subforum labelled 'enjoy'?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: ackblom12 on 02 Nov 2012, 07:09
Well, it's out of Lucas's hands, so probably.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lines on 02 Nov 2012, 07:12
I didn't like Episodes I-III, but I did enjoy watching them. At least at one point. And only if I skip over the parts with Jar-Jar.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Pilchard123 on 02 Nov 2012, 11:39
You didn't like Jar-Jar? Try this (http://www.darthsanddroids.net/), it may be enough to redeem him.

Who am I kidding, nothing will ever be enough. You should still read it though.


Of course, if you don't want to see the obnoxious version of R2-D2...read it anyway.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: drmike on 02 Nov 2012, 15:37
Gives new meaning to the term "Give in to the Dark Side...."

Just to mention, I'm making fun of all the dark evil rumors that have been attached to Disney over the years.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 02 Nov 2012, 19:09
I have no problems with Star Wars per say

But Darth Goofy???!!!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Nov 2012, 19:11
Never did see III, and I have trouble calling them I, II and III since that's what I still call IV, V and VI. 


However, I'm intrigued by the fact that all the protagonists from the original trilogy (however you number it) are old enough to play themselves in episode VII. 

General Solo?  Queen Leia?  Jedi Luke?  I'm in...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 02 Nov 2012, 20:12
Given that most applicable actors did play the same characters in the new trilogy (Kenny Baker as R2D2, Anthony Daniels as C-3PO, Frank Oz as Yoda, Ian McDermid as Palpatine/Sidious, and Peter Mayhew as Chewbacca...I met him once, he is AWESOME!), I see no reason they can't continue the trend. Maybe Mark Hamill can earn some decent income again. And I think Harrison Ford would be nuts not to redeem himself after the atrocity that was Indy IV.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lupercal on 03 Nov 2012, 11:42
2. I guarantee you the original theatrical release of Episodes IV - VI will get released on Blu-Ray because Disney loves money.

True. Although Lucas likes a bit of dolla himself, hence Episode I re-released in 3D this year.

Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan

This is why I say I like the prequels. Ewan is the sole redeeming factor of them, really. Which is why I do actually like II, although again, as I get older I can't help but see Jango Fett as a character there for fan service, that apparently fans hated anyway. (I don't think I've ever met anyone from the elusive die-hard fanbase, myself)

As for the old guys coming back - why? I think it would seem too much like they're trying to play a new film too close to the original trilogy. Saying that, Neemoy in Star Trek was pretty cool. But they had the ability to play with the idea of time travel, something we don't see in Star Wars. Maybe some cameos would suit, but I don't really trust anyone else in the franchise coming back. Seeing C3PO doing stupid crap in the prequels (II, again) was enough for me to hate the idea of dragging certain characters through movie after movie. I think they need a clean break with the next one, but we'll see.

Another reason to be excited: you may be able to play some decent Star Wars videogames again. I've believed for some time that the golden age has passed for SW videogames, and for LucasArts (as a 10 year old I fondly remember Racer, Rouge Squadron and the later Battlefront and Jedi Knight stuff, X-Wing, Republic Commando, etc). Lately its all been Clone Wars this, Kinect that. Force Unleashed II was apparently a rushed mess, and the third instalment was cancelled. I hope next years 1313 is the turning point.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lines on 04 Nov 2012, 09:38
Considering Mark Hamill is retiring from voicing the Joker (which is almost as memorable as him being Luke, especially to younger generations), I don't see him coming back for a Star Wars movie. Carrie Fisher might do it for the lols and Harrison Ford may or may not want to. But I don't think they should be the main focus. If they wanted to do it about Leia's and Han's children, then yeah, a cameo would totally work.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: drmike on 04 Nov 2012, 10:13
Considering Mark Hamill is retiring from voicing the Joker

He's still acting as well as doing voice work since then.  He's going to do voices in the How to Train Your Dragon spin off:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragons:_Riders_of_Berk
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 04 Nov 2012, 10:25
Considering Mark Hamill is retiring from voicing the Joker

WAT. I was not aware he was behind that mask...wow, I didn't recognize that voice at all. New-found respect (again) for Mr. Hamill.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Nov 2012, 11:00
I was thinking more along the lines of cameos.  It should be "the next generation", to borrow a phrase...

Although I don't think we'll lose the droids - I seem to recall somewhere that the entire originally planned 9-film epic was to be from their point of view (with gaps filled in, of course).  They're the only characters that could span the appropriate time period. 
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Nov 2012, 11:01
Oh yeah, also I'm sure we can all be happy that Lucas is giving the $4 billion from this sale to starting an educational charity.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Nov 2012, 13:39
I was thinking more along the lines of cameos.  It should be "the next generation", to borrow a phrase...

Although I don't think we'll lose the droids - I seem to recall somewhere that the entire originally planned 9-film epic was to be from their point of view (with gaps filled in, of course).  They're the only characters that could span the appropriate time period.

Given that it was C-3PO that told the entire story to the Ewoks in ROTJ, I'd say that was a good guess.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Nov 2012, 14:50
Oh yeah, also I'm sure we can all be happy that Lucas is giving the $4 billion from this sale to starting an educational charity.

Absolutely. Honestly, I've decided to just stop criticizing the prequels because there is absolutely nothing he has done that could sour the goodwill that builds up for me. $4 billion is a huge amount to give to charity, credit to the guy. Make as many shitty films as you want, fella.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lines on 05 Nov 2012, 06:37
Oh yeah, also I'm sure we can all be happy that Lucas is giving the $4 billion from this sale to starting an educational charity.

Uh, yes. Very much so. More people with money need to do this.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Nov 2012, 09:31
Edutopia (http://www.edutopia.org/) is Lucas' own foundation... but it is doing some really good work. 
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: drmike on 05 Nov 2012, 14:19
You realize that if they really want to milk this....

Howard the Duck Part 2 may be coming.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Nov 2012, 14:22
If they really wanna milk it and try and get us Grim Fandango 2 and/or Full Throttle 2, I'm ok with this.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lupercal on 06 Nov 2012, 13:02
Ford says "Okay, fuck it" to reprising solo (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/9658785/Harrison-Ford-open-to-Star-Wars-Han-Solo-return.html)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lines on 06 Nov 2012, 15:04
So he's happy about the movie and excited to work with the others, but found Solo boring? That's...I don't even know. I'm confused. Also kind of sad, because Han Solo is a fun character. :-(
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Sorflakne on 10 Nov 2012, 12:38
Seeing as how Lucas doesn't consider the EU to be canon to the Star Wars story, the new movies could either be very good (if they somehow recreate the success of PotC (looking solely at 1 and 2) in the new movies) or very, very bad.  Either way, I will remain ambivalent about this until more details are known.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Zappit on 10 Nov 2012, 16:24
Disney is also rumored to be in talks to buy Hasbro. New movies, Hasbro acquisition?

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Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LTK on 11 Nov 2012, 03:41
Nah, those rumours were already discredited. It wouldn't make sense for Disney to blow multiple billions of dollars on studio acquisitions all at the same time.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 11 Nov 2012, 17:18
It wouldn't make sense for Disney to blow multiple billions of dollars on studio acquisitions all at the same time.

But it would be so Disney of them.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: riccostar on 11 Nov 2012, 17:22
I'm just happy that there is going to be more star wars.  If they're that terrible we can just ignore them right?

right?

guys...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 11 Nov 2012, 18:02
That's right. Just like everyone [tried to] ignore the 2nd and 3rd Matrix movies...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: riccostar on 11 Nov 2012, 19:08
Nice try but I know they stopped after the first Matrix movie.  The second and third movies are just wives tales used to trick little children into not ruining great movies with bad sequels
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 12 Nov 2012, 15:53
I...I totally fell for both of them! Those wicked old ladies...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 12 Nov 2012, 20:47
Take the blue pill, take the blue pill!!!!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lupercal on 13 Nov 2012, 13:05
I had to take a variety of pills to get me through Revolutions

As for aquiring Hasbro - why, when Transformers 4 is going to be so successful now that Hugo Weaving said he didn't give a shit about voicing Megatron (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/oct/17/hugo-weaving-transformers-meaningless?newsfeed=true) and Mark Wahlberg is going to be the new Shia LeBouf (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/nov/09/mark-wahlberg-transformers-4?INTCMP=SRCH)!

Now THAT is a sequel trilogy that nobody really does give a shit about.

Seeing as how Lucas doesn't consider the EU to be canon to the Star Wars story, the new movies could either be very good (if they somehow recreate the success of PotC (looking solely at 1 and 2) in the new movies) or very, very bad.  Either way, I will remain ambivalent about this until more details are known.

Re-watched PotC recently and thought it was God-awful (yes, #1). So, unfortunately I'm not so much for Disney making THOSE kinds of films with Star Wars, but it now frightens me that they could.
The weird thing is, Lucas engaged a lot of those authors. Kevin J Anderson was asked by Lucas to write the post-ROTJ novels. He's had involvement pretty much every step of the way, and I suppose he doesn't consider it 'cannon' because you can do a hell of a lot more in a cheap paperback than you can in a 300million movie. Story wise, at least.

You have to think, how bad can Star Wars really be? If Phantom Menace is as bad as it gets, then its smooth sailing from here. Another thing that frightens me slightly is getting Luke back to be the new Obi-Wan. That could go pretty badly. I was sort of excited for a new trilogy that doesn't dwell too much on fan-service but maybe that's just too difficult in a franchise so embedded in our culture?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 13 Nov 2012, 20:51
How bad could it get?


Howabout Star Wars meets The Black Hole
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Carl-E on 13 Nov 2012, 23:54
Didn't it already?  The black hole of Uncle Walt...
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Post by: jwhouk on 14 Nov 2012, 06:34
The MOVIE, Carl.  :roll:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Zappit on 15 Nov 2012, 18:40
They're planning on bringing Vader back. After getting roasted by Palpatine, will he be double robot? Rest conning that whole force ghost of Anakin might be tricky, though.

I will admit, if they show Vader in more elaborate light saber fights, as a flash of black armor, that would make it worth it. Vader's supposed to be the biggest badass in the universe, but in the original trilogy, the costume limited movement too much, as his fighting was stiff. Those limitations don't really apply anymore with the technology available now.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 15 Nov 2012, 20:00
I wouldn't mind some new Vader fight scenes, but it would have to be in a flashback, right? I mean...he died. Fo realz, yo.
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Post by: riccostar on 15 Nov 2012, 20:27
Vader! Oh the things they could do with him and modern movie magic
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 16 Nov 2012, 12:06
They're planning on bringing Vader back. After getting roasted by Palpatine, will he be double robot? Retconning that whole force ghost of Anakin might be tricky, though.

I will admit, if they show Vader in more elaborate light saber fights, as a flash of black armor, that would make it worth it. Vader's supposed to be the biggest badass in the universe, but in the original trilogy, the costume limited movement too much, as his fighting was stiff. Those limitations don't really apply anymore with the technology available now.

Bear in mind as well that Darth Vader lost three limbs, was horribly burnt in the fight with Obi Wan and locked into what was essentially a life support machine, pumped up to the midiclorians with painkillers. I doubt anyone would be that great a fighter after that.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: ackblom12 on 16 Nov 2012, 12:15
Actually, I think the RedLetterMedia review of Phantom Menace explains very well why the shitty old lightsaber duels were better in every possible way.

In fact, here is the proper video that includes the critique. The section on the lightsaber fights start at around the 6:00 mark

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Post by: Carl-E on 17 Nov 2012, 09:17
Well said, by George! 
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Post by: Lupercal on 20 Nov 2012, 15:07
I love the RLM reviews. They may ruin the movie for your but by gum, they're pretty bang on.

"What's wrong with your faaace?"

As for Vader returning - yeah, although the first time he was left near a volcano, this time he was actually burnt in a pyre. There is probably no coming back as deadly force ash (unless you're going to be invisible and ground all flights off of Endor, lololol). Plus, a lot of his schematics must've been blown up in both Death Stars and the Super Star Destroyer (which, as it happens, also crashes into the Death Star).
He might be considered an "integral" part of the franchise, I also consider him a "dead" part of the franchise.

Every time I hear about a new Star Wars article something else crazy is happening. Welcome to the next three years, everyone.
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Post by: Kugai on 20 Nov 2012, 21:09
Next you'll be telling ua Mace Windu returns as well
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Nov 2012, 08:50
Yeah, turned out he didn't lose his hand, he lost his eye. He also runs a law enforcement agency after changing his name to Nick Fury.
During that time, he trained a small number of padawans.
"HULK LIKE LIGHT STICK!" *accidentally pokes self in the eye with a lightsaber* "HULK HATE PUNY LIGHT STICK!"
And thus, the Hulk was responsible for the destruction of Alderaan.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: VonKleist on 22 Nov 2012, 03:15
According to all sources "Empire" and "Jedi" writer Lawrence Kasdan is back with the franchise and will co-write the next film with some other dude. At least itll be interesting to see wether Kasdan still has it. He DID also wrote the first Indiana Jones, so lets see if he still has it 30 years later.
If you check the man's filmography its a bit of hit and miss but mostly solid movies and some, the older ones, really great.

Sigh.. they shoulda just made "Shadows of the Empire" back then...
Oh and fun fact:Lawrence Kasdan wrote the script or something for the video game based on Shadows.
I read the novel ages ago and while I don't think much of these spin-off kind of novels (I used to read them Battletech novels *shudders*) that one was pretty solid imho.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Whitey Fats on 22 Nov 2012, 11:22
(http://www.cartoonbrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/mousevader.jpg?9d7bd4)

So there's been a lot of news lately.

One tiny particle of that news has been about George Lucas selling Lucasfilm to Disney for just over $4 billion.

Disney have said that feature films will most definitely be a part of their taking-over of Lucasfilm (and expect Indiana Jones at some point, I guess) and that a "new feature film" will be released in 2015. Whether this will be entitled "Episode VII" is another story. Lucas is staying on as creative consultant, but I suppose the exciting part is that if a decent director is brought in, this new movie (and supposedly, new trilogy) could be brilliant. Out of Lucas's hands, it might be more cohesive than the last trilogy that was released. (Personally, II & III were brilliant, I is getting more annoying to watch as I age, and Hayden Christensen is a terrible, terrible actor)

Essentially, Disney seemed to have let their various money-making factions that they've aquired over the years a lot of independence. Marvel have had their ups and downs, but its been ups since Iron Man came out. Then there's the Pixar thing, with Cars, Toy Story, all that. Very successful. Avengers just pulled in record figures. Its a good time to be a part of that, I think. Disney are obviously a corporation after franchises that they can milk forever more, and while I hate that Star Wars is going to be involved in that, I also love it. It needs a good vision from someone who isn't also writing and directing the thing, surrounded by yes men. A fresh vision could 'reboot' Star Wars in a very good way.

Also, they're talking TV series and a hell of a lot of other stuff. I'm quite excited, but the buyout in general has been interesting, although rather inevitable when you think about it.

I also have no idea where the plot will go for a new film, or who will be in it. I hope that the guys in charge have the clairvoyance to NOT get all the old actors in (Harrison Ford is NEVER coming back), and just do something new. Lots of Expanded Universe stuff to draw from but stuff like the Thrawn or Jedi Academy trilogy rely far too much on Luke Skywalker being the new self-appointed head of the New Jedi Order.

Anyway, geeking out here.


Hayden isn't terrible. He's been fine in every other movie he's been in. According to both him and others, he was told by Lucas to make his character 2d, since evil people can't be sympathetic, ever."
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 23 Nov 2012, 18:59
Yes, well Darth Georgious would know about that, wouldn't he
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Post by: Lupercal on 25 Nov 2012, 10:23
Well, he certainly wasn't good in Jumper either. Or Awake.

I found it funny that Shattered Glass has him portraying Stephen Glass's rise through an American Magazine called The New Republic

As for Kasdan, I'm sure he'll do a stellar job. Three Lucasfilm releases under his belt and he wrote, directed and produced Wyatt Earp, which isn't as good as Tombstone apparently but I love that film. At this point, without a director or vague idea of a plot, writers and producers are pretty meaningless to me, just names helping the rumour mill going round.
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Post by: Lupercal on 02 Dec 2012, 14:36
Matthew Vaughn 'accidently' confirmed to direct Star Wars VII (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/nov/28/star-wars-matthew-vaughn)
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Post by: Sorflakne on 02 Dec 2012, 17:16
Quote
You have to think, how bad can Star Wars really be? If Phantom Menace is as bad as it gets, then its smooth sailing from here.
Attack of the Clones?  Hayden Christiansen?
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Post by: Lupercal on 04 Dec 2012, 12:40
Surely not considered WORSE than Episode 1?
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Post by: Thrillho on 04 Dec 2012, 13:28
Yes, absolutely it is. Attack Of The Clones makes Episode I look like Empire.

Episode I had the kinda cool podracing sequence, and a few kind of iconic images too. Attack Of The Clones had absolutely zero redeeming features.
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Post by: Bluesummers on 04 Dec 2012, 15:37
Seconded. At least Darth Maul was a badass character...I kinda wished he lasted longer, but that's what you get for killing Liam Neeson.
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Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Dec 2012, 21:00
Darth Maul was a completely wasted character as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 05 Dec 2012, 12:17
http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0179.html
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Post by: Lupercal on 05 Dec 2012, 12:23
Well, that's sure as hell blown my pre-conceived ideas about Star Wars fans' opinions wide open.

Episode II...well, lets see. I liked the Jedi starfighters. Obi-Wan's mullet is funny. The depth charges make a cool sound...?

Oh, and reports suggest its being re-released in 3D in September next year.   :?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Bluesummers on 05 Dec 2012, 19:15
Don't forget everyone's favorite paradox: Count Dooku.

And you thought Jar-Jar Binks was a bar character name. No wonder he turned evil, took the name Darth Tyranus, and ate the heart (and thus consumed the powers) of Christopher Lee.
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Post by: Kugai on 05 Dec 2012, 20:56
Well, Saruman had to have something to do after that pesky fall from Isengard.
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Post by: Carl-E on 06 Dec 2012, 00:11
I just realized I never saw episode II or III.  Episode I kinda killed it for me. 
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Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Dec 2012, 00:42
I thought Episode 1 was the worst of them, but Episode II tried so hard to take that title.
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Post by: Bluesummers on 06 Dec 2012, 19:12
I just realized I never saw episode II or III.  Episode I kinda killed it for me. 

Then you, sir, have not yet known true despair.

Quote from: Anakin Skywalker
Love can't save you, Padme...only my new powers can do that!
I kept waiting for Billy Mays to pop in and shout "BUT WAIT! ORDER NOW AND WE'LL SHIP DOUBLE, THAT'S RIGHT, DOUBLE THE POWERS, ABSOLUTELY FREE!!!"

It slices, it dices! And with twice the midichlorians of the leading jedi brand!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 07 Dec 2012, 18:04
I just realized I never saw episode II or III.  Episode I kinda killed it for me. 

Then you, sir, have not yet known true despair.

Quote from: Anakin Skywalker
Love can't save you, Padme...only my new powers can do that!
I kept waiting for Billy Mays to pop in and shout "BUT WAIT! ORDER NOW AND WE'LL SHIP DOUBLE, THAT'S RIGHT, DOUBLE THE POWERS, ABSOLUTELY FREE!!!"

It slices, it dices! And with twice the midichlorians of the leading jedi brand!


Only 42 payments of $99.99
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Lupercal on 09 Dec 2012, 07:16
Also, Palpatine's "I can feel your anger" to Anakin, freshly frazzled/burnt from the fight with Mace Windu, is way to sexual for my liking.

He said it to Luke like he was annoyed with his foolish 'light side' ideals.

He said it to Anakin like his meatsaber was igniting under his cloak.
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Post by: riccostar on 09 Dec 2012, 14:56
I will never again be able to take that line in stride...
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Post by: Bluesummers on 09 Dec 2012, 22:02
Another one of the emperor's overly sexualized lines: "The force is STRONG* with this one"

*read: "Ah-skeet-skeet-skeet"
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Post by: dps on 25 Dec 2012, 18:56
Darth Maul was a completely wasted character as far as I'm concerned.

He was barely a character--he was basically a prop.

I mean, what can you say about him except that he had a double-bladed light saber?  (Ok, bladed might technically be the right term, but you know what I mean.)

Darth Maul had a lot of potential, but it was never used.
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Post by: LeeC on 25 Jan 2013, 12:06
JJ abrams is directing the new star wars movie.  so thats a thing.
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 25 Jan 2013, 15:20
Man, they should just stop fucking about and ask Joss Whedon. They know they want to. . .

*CoughNathanFillionasaJediCough*
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Post by: Bluesummers on 25 Jan 2013, 17:01
JJ abrams is directing the new star wars movie.  so thats a thing.
Didn't he do the new Star Trek movie? Isn't that a nerd-plurality conflict of interest or something?
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Post by: LeeC on 25 Jan 2013, 17:26
JJ abrams is directing the new star wars movie.  so thats a thing.
Didn't he do the new Star Trek movie? Isn't that a nerd-plurality conflict of interest or something?
yes he did do the star trek movies, but he has said when he was doing the star trek movies he wasnt a star trek fan, he did say however that he was a star wars fan.  He even put a floating R2D2 in the wreckage when the enterprise arrived at vulcan to fight the bad guy.  Its one of those "blink and you miss it" moments.  So now we have a star wars fan making a star wars movie after reviving the star trek franchise.

hopefully there will not be a ton of lens flare. :psyduck:
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Post by: jwhouk on 25 Jan 2013, 17:56
You KNOW There Will Be Lens Flare.
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Post by: Kugai on 25 Jan 2013, 19:39
Chewie just asked me to pass on a message


"Raargs nnnn Graaaah hurh raaaagh"


That is all.
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Post by: Bluesummers on 28 Jan 2013, 06:06
Chewie just asked me to pass on a message

"Raargs nnnn Graaaah hurh raaaagh"

Whoa man, tell him to chill the fuck out. This is a public forum, we don't want his dirty laundry aired for everyone to read.
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Post by: Abyssalin on 28 Jan 2013, 08:23
Chewie just asked me to pass on a message


"Raargs nnnn Graaaah hurh raaaagh"


That is all.

Yeah i feel the same way.
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Post by: Lupercal on 09 Feb 2013, 06:32
So yeah there's going to be spinoffs. Lots and lots of spinoffs. (http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/02/06/Star-Wars-spinoffs-Young-Han-Solo-Boba-Fett-movie-in-the-works/8601360176417/)

The milking begins.
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Post by: Lupercal on 09 Feb 2013, 06:32
Something I stole from the Guardian:

I hear the Sarlacc is getting its own chat show.

"Ah, Boba Fett, how nice of you to drop in..."
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Post by: Kugai on 09 Feb 2013, 10:45
So yeah there's going to be spinoffs. Lots and lots of spinoffs. (http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/02/06/Star-Wars-spinoffs-Young-Han-Solo-Boba-Fett-movie-in-the-works/8601360176417/)

The milking begins.

*Shakes head*
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 10 Feb 2013, 07:25
Great, they're going to dickbox the whole thing, I can just feel it in my bones.
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Post by: Bluesummers on 11 Feb 2013, 11:26
"Step 2: Put the Force in a box."
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 12 Feb 2013, 14:49
*Snerks* Don't give them ideas, they'll put Justin timberlake in the next one if they see that.
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Post by: Kugai on 12 Feb 2013, 18:51
YOU GO WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP AND WATER!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Lupercal on 13 Feb 2013, 12:34
Oh I think we all know Shia is going to work his way in somewhere.

Also, Eddie Murphy as Lando's hilarious Dad in the Calrissian Chronicles trilogy circa 2018
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Post by: Kugai on 13 Feb 2013, 16:55
Hey, maybe they'll update the effects in The Star Wars Holiday Soecial
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Post by: Bluesummers on 13 Feb 2013, 17:19
Oh I think we all know Shia is going to work his way in somewhere.

Also, Eddie Murphy as Lando's hilarious Dad in the Calrissian Chronicles trilogy circa 2018

I can see Eddie Murphy in any movie, he's just hilarious.

Shia Bidoof (I don't care how he spells his name, he'll always be an annoying little beaver-twat) can go eat a dick. I'm serious, he didn't even belong in "I, Robot"...I still wish Will Smith would have shot him.
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Post by: Carl-E on 14 Feb 2013, 18:46
Shia was good in Holes



What?  It was good for a few laughs with my kids. 
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Post by: Bluesummers on 14 Feb 2013, 22:55
I could easily just say the book was better...

You know what? The book was better.

:parrot:

I can go on like this all day. Hell, give me Haley Joel Osmond or Shia, that kid wasn't bad in Secondhand Lions.
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Post by: Lupercal on 15 Feb 2013, 15:37
Oh I think we all know Shia is going to work his way in somewhere.

Also, Eddie Murphy as Lando's hilarious Dad in the Calrissian Chronicles trilogy circa 2018

I can see Eddie Murphy in any movie, he's just hilarious.

Shia Bidoof (I don't care how he spells his name, he'll always be an annoying little beaver-twat) can go eat a dick. I'm serious, he didn't even belong in "I, Robot"...I still wish Will Smith would have shot him.

..The Klumps?

Well back in the early 21st Century Shia was only playing supporting roles at best. He was a minor annoyance in that movie, no more annoying than say, living in the future and wanting shoes from 2004. I mean, who now wants shoes made in the 1800s?

Oh, and more news on the spin-offs - Ewan McGregor has expressed interest in a role for the Obi-Wan years between III and IV. (anybody else think its a really annoying time frame to keep focusing on? Destroying all myth from the original film whilst totally ignoring say, the Old Republic or New Jedi Order. Or any time before/after those eras, which is pretty much infinite). He seems to have forgotten his disdain for the films. Perhaps looking up at a green screen for three films wasn't that bad?
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Post by: Bluesummers on 15 Feb 2013, 17:48
Star Wars 3?

Ahh, fuck it. I'd watch it.
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Post by: Kugai on 16 Feb 2013, 12:33
Star Wars 3?

Ahh, fuck it. I'd watch it.

I suddenly had visions of Leslie Neilson as a Jedi
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 21 Jul 2013, 01:45
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23375344

This seems as good a thread as any to put this in. Mos Espa is about to be buried under migrating dunes.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Jul 2013, 07:33
Won't that fuck with people's heads if it stays buried and gets excavated in the far future?
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Post by: LeeC on 16 Aug 2013, 09:50
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Post by: Kugai on 16 Aug 2013, 12:59
When the ship lifts, all debts are paid.


Old Spacers saying.
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Post by: Lupercal on 05 Sep 2013, 14:53
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTMzsWcIcAAXU-E.jpg)

Star Wars cast, 1978. 37 years later, how many of these guys will return?
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Post by: Kugai on 05 Sep 2013, 15:13
Harrison's said he'd be back I think.

Oh, and I get a 'This Video Does Not Exist' on that one LeeC.
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Post by: LeeC on 05 Sep 2013, 15:22
looks like conan obrien took it down.  They interviewed Harrison Ford and he bribed Mr. Ford with 1 thousand real dollars to say a little something about the new star wars movie.  Harrison takes the money, pockets it and says "a long time ago, in a place far far away." and thats it.  was funny
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Post by: TheEvilDog on 05 Sep 2013, 15:26
So apparently Eggs Benedict Cummerbund will be announced to have a key role in the film, well, in the next couple of days.
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Post by: LeeC on 05 Sep 2013, 15:31
Tarkin's bastard?
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Post by: Lupercal on 07 Sep 2013, 03:18
Seems like Tarkin froze sperm all over the galaxy...

They could easily make Cumberbatch a Thrawn-esque character. They'll draw on EU Imperial big-wigs and combine it all into one ultimate antithesis.
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 07 Sep 2013, 03:44
Y'know, having read some of the pre-Manikin Skywalker EU books, Cumberbatch as Thrawn is an Excellent call.
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Post by: LeeC on 18 Sep 2013, 08:10
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Post by: Lupercal on 19 Sep 2013, 15:19
Hmm. I took a look over theforce.net forums today and there seems to be some interesting information over there - mainly that EU cannon might be salvaged if the events of Episode VII take place in a realistic time frame (ie, follow real time), which would mean that Episode VII takes place at 45 ABY, a rather sparse time for the EU. Now, given the tight reign Lucas had on what time line was available for SW-EU authors, it suggests either authors couldn't be bothered to wander in to an unestablished time frame, or that 45 ABY was being kept for something else. Namely, the next generation of Skywalkers.

Also, Troy Denning's EU novel "The Crucible", published in July this year, is another interesting point.

Quote
Denning says he's doing a novel about a year after Apocalypse ends. It stars the Big Three, and starts in a cantina, "and yes, Han shoots first." It'll be set in a new part of the galaxy, that's new to readers. Lando is involved, no grandkids."

Cover art gives a fairly realist glimpse of the three in costume:

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121013000926/starwars/images/thumb/c/cc/Crucible_%28Final_cover%29.jpg/250px-Crucible_%28Final_cover%29.jpg)

So, this seems to set a precedent for a film if they are choosing not to trample and retcon most of the EU stuff. Hell, even the first EU novel, "Splinter in the Mind's Eye", is non-canonical due to the fact it was actually written as a template for a low-budget sequel if Star Wars had bombed. Lots of inaccuracies. Anyway, the speculation continues. We're not hearing anything new, and I don't think any casting decisions, asides from the "big three", will be coming this side of Christmas.
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Post by: Kugai on 19 Sep 2013, 16:37
I remember reading Splinter Of The Minds Eye many years back, plus a couple of the Han Solo novels.  I found Splinter an interesting read, especially as when I ran across it, I had just seen Empire and Jedi along with Star Wars at a triple feature.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Sep 2013, 17:05
In better news, that Seth Green Star Wars cartoon called Detours has 39 episodes, but they are holding on to each and every one of them. Hopefully they never see the light of day.
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Post by: Kugai on 19 Sep 2013, 17:16
Gonna make it disappear like the Holiday Special huh?     ;D      :angel:
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Post by: Kugai on 19 Sep 2013, 17:35
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Post by: LeeC on 19 Sep 2013, 19:44
The "Only sith deal in absolutes" line always makes me cringe.
(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 20 Sep 2013, 06:38
Isn't "only Sith deal in absolutes" an absolute itself?

(That sentence feels really clunky)
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Post by: LeeC on 20 Sep 2013, 10:53
exactly.  A lot of the dialogue is in the prequels.  Some int he original two but not as obvious.
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Post by: Lupercal on 26 Sep 2013, 13:36
Gonna make it disappear like the Holiday Special huh?     ;D      :angel:

(http://s23.postimg.org/a1vl438ij/sheet_Landon.gif)
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Post by: Lupercal on 26 Sep 2013, 13:37
(been waiting fucking ages to use a good star wars gif. You guys need to say stuff that's a lot more concerning/troubling!)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Nov 2013, 16:53
Quote
Star Wars sequel: Open auditions to be held in UK

Open auditions are being planned for two lead roles in the next Star Wars film, the BBC has learned.

The casting sessions for Star Wars: Episode VII will start later this week at locations around the UK and Ireland, including London, Dublin and Glasgow.

According to a casting notice the film-makers are looking to fill two roles.

They are a "street smart and strong" orphaned girl in her late teens and a "smart capable" man in his late teens or early 20s.


The open auditions for a "major Hollywood Movie" were first published on the twitter account @UKopencall, which announced a "nationwide search for lead roles for a Disney movie".  Disney bought Lucasfilm, the production company behind the Star Wars series, in October 2012.

Leaked descriptions
 
Lucasfilm declined to comment to the BBC but it seems likely that the characters have been given non sci-fi names and descriptions in the announcement in an effort to disguise that the auditions are for Star Wars: Episode VII.

The broad nature of the characters is almost the same as in descriptions leaked online earlier in the year when the overall casting process began.

While it is unprecedented for lead parts in a franchise of this size to hold open auditions in this way, Star Wars has in the past given major roles to little known actors and actresses through the traditional casting process, dating back to the original trilogy when the then unknown Mark Hamill won the role of Luke Skywalker.

Other movies have successfully cast secondary actors and actresses through open auditions in the past most notably some of the later Harry Potter films.

And actress Dakota Blue Richards won the lead role of Lyra in The Golden Compass, the film adaptation of Philip Pullman's Northern Lights, through open casting.

Director JJ Abrams, who is also co-scripting the movie, will not be attending the open auditions which begin in Bristol on 9 November.  Instead those at the auditions, who must be over the age of 16 for the female role, and over 18 for the male role, will briefly meet members of the casting team of the film.

Star Wars: Episode VII is scheduled to begin shooting at Pinewood Studios in spring 2014, for an expected 2015 release.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24828750

I have a bad feeling about this...
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Nov 2013, 03:53
Honing in on the Hunger Games audience?

I know Star Wars is full of "young people", technically. At least both trilogies started off with some fairly young people. Wasn't Obi Wan supposed to be about 25 in Episode 1? And Princess Leia and Luke are obviously younglings too. I hope that "late teens" doesn't mean getting what amount to be Jennifer Lawrence lookalikes.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Jan 2014, 17:45
uh oh

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/131559-Carrie-Fisher-Confirms-Star-Wars-Cast-Reunion-In-Episode-VII
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Post by: Lupercal on 23 Jan 2014, 14:52
Also rumours floating around today that Pixar are handling some Star Wars spinoff. Not even pretending to understand what that actually means.
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Post by: LeeC on 29 Apr 2014, 14:37
(http://i.imgur.com/CeejlzJ.jpg)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Apr 2014, 14:58
Looking oddly monogender ja?
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Post by: LeeC on 29 Apr 2014, 15:02
Who knows, there is obviously another row of people behind them.  Then again the OT did have a mostly male cast.  Would be cool to see some more female protagonists outside of the "diplomat" character. Granted Princess Leia is a badass, first 10 seconds of her on screen and she straight up kills a dude.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liwtzrMyEj1qg9no0o1_500.gif)
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Apr 2014, 16:01
And she could totally be a Jedi in the new movie. I can't imagine Luke didn't want to train her.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Apr 2014, 16:04
Still regretful Abrams is the director.

And Luke didn't want to train her who? It's not like we know who the characters are yet.

http://io9.com/hey-star-wars-where-the-hell-are-the-women-1569357077

One thing I will take issue with the is the claim that Star Wars is close to a Universal Story. This is incorrect. It IS a universal story, because Lucas wrote it with a copy of "A Hero With A Thousand Faces" and John Campbell's other myth analysis books and monomyth theory papers close at hand. Star Wars resonates because it IS our heroic mythic legends of days gone by from the Epic of Gilgamesh to the story of Sigurd the Volsung... and that one you might have heard about some hippy from Judea, in it's structure

Another point of divergence. I'm still pissed about the lack of potential for noted incredible bad ass Mara Jade in the forthcoming sequels. Scarlett Johansson could have played the part and she barely would have had to change her costume from Black Widow, just go over to the bad guys and start fucking people up. Possibly with a lightsaber if they wanted to level her up to that early.
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Post by: Thrillho on 29 Apr 2014, 16:23
I didn't think I could get excited for Star Wars again.

That photo has proved me wrong.
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Post by: Kugai on 29 Apr 2014, 16:31
We shall see.
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Post by: Thrillho on 29 Apr 2014, 16:32
I will probably cry with joy like a tiny little girl the second Mark Hamill comes onscreen, though.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Apr 2014, 18:57
Luke would train Leia to be a Jedi. Sorry, I thought it was clear enough from context. It's established that the Force is strong in her as of Return of the Jedi, so it's still canon. Unless for some strange reason they decide to go down the route that Luke is just going to let the Jedi Order die off, he's going to have to train people. Who better to start with than his own sister?
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Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2014, 01:24
Yeaaaah. I wasn't even thinking about Carrier Fisher as a possibility for that. I figured most of the "original" cast would just be a couple cameos to tickle the joy bits of the fan boys and fan girls.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Apr 2014, 07:04
I still don't think they will be doing any kind of acrobatic fight scenes. If any do happen, I expect there to be a lot of long shots and CGI involved. And stunt doubles. They are kinda old to be swinging across bottomless pits. And besides, it doesn't mean she would be trained as a Jedi Warrior like Luke was. As a diplomat, noble and ambassador I could see her following the path of the Counselor. Still kick ass, but less in the 'flip out and slice you up with a lightsaber' way.

I expected that the trio would just show up in the beginning and maybe the end as a tie in to the continuity and a shout out to series fans. And that was apparently the original plan. But forced re-writes has put them back in the hero spotlight. I would rather seem them in minor roles, honestly. Bridging the gap between the 4-6 and 7-9 continuities, then stepping aside to let the main characters of the new trilogy shine. I have a bad feeling about trying to make them the heroes again. Don't try to re-do the original movie.. Make something new that adds on to the universe.
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Post by: LeeC on 30 Apr 2014, 07:42
I see her more as sticking with her government ties and not taking up the habit of the jedi.  Just because she could become a jedi doesnt mean she necessarily wants to.  For once I think it would be cool to see someone strong with the force that chooses not to walk down the jedi path.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 30 Apr 2014, 11:00
As a diplomat?

"Elbonia does not want to attack us."

"Elbonia does not want to attack you."

"Elbonia wants to go home and rethink its life"
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Post by: Lupercal on 30 Apr 2014, 16:21
Think people have said that Harrison Ford is having a "gigantic role" in Ep 7. Whatever that means. Bigger than Han Solo in 4-6?

I'm definitely excited about this, especially the inclusion of Andy Serkis (he may also be heading up the second unit like he did in The Hobbit).

GarandMarine - dude, personally I've seen enough of Scarlett Johansson. Don't need to shoe-horn her into Star Wars just because she looks like a woman from a series of books Disney have just said aren't canonical (hardly a coincidence with the timing of the cast being announced). What's with the dislike of Abrams? Everyone has their own opinions, but could he be any better/worse than say Lucas himself, or Richard Marquand?
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Post by: Kugai on 30 Apr 2014, 16:33
You mean since he fraked with Star Trek?
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Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2014, 20:03

GarandMarine - dude, personally I've seen enough of Scarlett Johansson. Don't need to shoe-horn her into Star Wars just because she looks like a woman from a series of books Disney have just said aren't canonical (hardly a coincidence with the timing of the cast being announced). What's with the dislike of Abrams? Everyone has their own opinions, but could he be any better/worse than say Lucas himself, or Richard Marquand?

It was an offhand comedic example of a classic Star Wars character, (Please note that games, comics, animated features, etc are included in the swath of the EU The Mouse just destroyed, not just the books.) more particularly, an extremely strong female lead character and bad ass that could have easily been folded into this reboot as opposed to one new female fortheloveofthegodsletherbealead character and... Carrie Fisher. Relax. Smoke a bowl. What ever you do down there to chill out. Play with poisonous snakes or something I guess, and of course it's not a coincidence. THAT WAS THE ENTIRE FRAKKING POINT!

As for Abrams he's just a shitty director. Ol'George's writing might have gone down hill on the Prequels but he's not a bad director (he only directed one Star Wars movie any way) his pre-Star Wars films prove his chops. THX-1138 his debut, in particular was quite good.

Abrams meanwhile has churned out a good movie NEVER. Seriously his entire filmography is shit unless you were big into Lost, which I always thought wasn't that good to begin with, and after the freaking travesty he committed against Star Trek... well I'm not exactly positive about Captain Lensflare's contribution to Star Wars.

Just remember this is the guy who took a show and universe based around the best things about humanity, an ideal future for us to look towards with hope*... and turned it into a standard issue action sci fi piece wearing the corpse of the former like a serial killer wearing a meat suit made of the flesh of his victims.

Seriously. Fuck that guy.

He's on the same level of filmmaker as the guy who did the Stallone era Judge Dredd.

Speaking of things that are a crime against it's source material...

*Yes I'm aware the series got significantly darker in and around DS9, but if you want to count that as a gritty reboot it's proof that good writers and directors can do gritty reboots of a franchise with panache and still keep the bright future caramel goodness at that heart of Star Trek in place.
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Post by: Kugai on 30 Apr 2014, 21:09
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by: LeeC on 01 May 2014, 09:13
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 May 2014, 10:05
Sooooo... take this as the extremely unofficial and quite possibly wrong rumor that it is... But I read this morning that Lupita Nyong'o has been cast to play Asajj Ventress. If this is true, they have my money, hands down. Asajj was my favorite character from Clone Wars. The only thing that would make it better was if they revealed that she's been flying around the galaxy with Asoka Tano, being force sensitive bounty hunters...
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Post by: LeeC on 01 May 2014, 10:28
considering it takes place 30 years after return of the jedi, I don't think it'll be asajj ventress, but perhaps a character like her?

lets say Asoka was 16 when the republic fell, 31 during the battle of yavin, and 35 during the battle of endor, that would make her roughly 65 in SW7.  Asajj was probably in her 20s by my guess during the show so she'd be 70+.  I doubt they's have Lupita Nyong'o play her unless they want to age her by 50 years with make up.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 May 2014, 10:55
Again, this is just a rumor. No confirmation at all. I have no idea what kind of lifespan a Dathomir would have...She could be in her prime in her 70s. Yoda was pretty spry during the prequels for being in his 800s when he wanted to be.
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Post by: LeeC on 01 May 2014, 11:45
well Dathomirians are a hybrid of humans and Zabrak, which both have similar lifespans. Now there is a possibility that some dark side magic could keep her young if she advanced that far in her study of the dark side.  Considering her village was wiped out and I doubt she'd get much information from Sidious, I think it highly unlikely.  I chalk it up to fan made rumors like the ones in the Star Wars: Rebels (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?topic=29557.msg1222414#msg1222414) thread. 

Now she is never seen in the movies and only in the TV show (and comics/novels) and it is entirely possible they may retcon it all and have her active in the post RotJ era.
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Post by: Lupercal on 01 May 2014, 11:48
You mean since he fraked with Star Trek?

Fraked?

(https://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/styles/blog_post_media/public/Riker.jpg?itok=x3THVF5h)


GarandMarine - dude, personally I've seen enough of Scarlett Johansson. Don't need to shoe-horn her into Star Wars just because she looks like a woman from a series of books Disney have just said aren't canonical (hardly a coincidence with the timing of the cast being announced). What's with the dislike of Abrams? Everyone has their own opinions, but could he be any better/worse than say Lucas himself, or Richard Marquand?

It was an offhand comedic example of a classic Star Wars character, (Please note that games, comics, animated features, etc are included in the swath of the EU The Mouse just destroyed, not just the books.) more particularly, an extremely strong female lead character and bad ass that could have easily been folded into this reboot as opposed to one new female fortheloveofthegodsletherbealead character and... Carrie Fisher. Relax. Smoke a bowl. What ever you do down there to chill out. Play with poisonous snakes or something I guess, and of course it's not a coincidence. THAT WAS THE ENTIRE FRAKKING POINT!

As for Abrams he's just a shitty director. Ol'George's writing might have gone down hill on the Prequels but he's not a bad director (he only directed one Star Wars movie any way) his pre-Star Wars films prove his chops. THX-1138 his debut, in particular was quite good.

Abrams meanwhile has churned out a good movie NEVER. Seriously his entire filmography is shit unless you were big into Lost, which I always thought wasn't that good to begin with, and after the freaking travesty he committed against Star Trek... well I'm not exactly positive about Captain Lensflare's contribution to Star Wars.

Just remember this is the guy who took a show and universe based around the best things about humanity, an ideal future for us to look towards with hope*... and turned it into a standard issue action sci fi piece wearing the corpse of the former like a serial killer wearing a meat suit made of the flesh of his victims.

Seriously. Fuck that guy.

He's on the same level of filmmaker as the guy who did the Stallone era Judge Dredd.

Speaking of things that are a crime against it's source material...

*Yes I'm aware the series got significantly darker in and around DS9, but if you want to count that as a gritty reboot it's proof that good writers and directors can do gritty reboots of a franchise with panache and still keep the bright future caramel goodness at that heart of Star Trek in place.

Hmm. I do love a good toad-lickin'!

You of course, have an extremely valid point. I mean, I don't know, probably fired up and taking everything Star Wars a bit too literally when I posted that. Stay away from fan-forums, they fuck with  your head. Mara Jade was, with Kyle Katarn, an extremely cool character. She was pretty much the one massive, strong female lead from the EU (although there is Dalaa, Mon Mothma, Bant and a slew of other more minor characters). In fact a Winter  (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Winter_Celchu)character would do really well (think Brienne from Game of Thrones). I think there is still a female yet to be cast based on the casting call. Star Wars is in dire need of a good female character that doesn't only serve to be the love interest of one of the many male characters. Don't get me wrong, Leia and Padme are badass, but the new trilogy is going to need someone to be consistently strong. Mara Jade could've worked. I'm assuming they'll take that blueprint and run with it in the new trilogy.

Ventress? Really? She seemed like a kind of run-of-the-mill Sith to me, solely created to battle Jedi and act as a buffer between the jedi and Dooku.

As for Abrams' direction...I think the difference is he is a fan of Star Wars and did Star Trek for the money, I assume. He's extremely capable of fan-service (good/bad thing, take your pick) and yeah, his TV work has been up and down, and he's done some dodgey shakey-cam films (Cloverfield, Super 8 ) but I didn't think Star Trek or Into Darkness were bad, in fact, I quite liked them. But they weren't particularly shy about their using women for eye candy either, Uhura being the only exception.

Comparisons to Lucas will be inescapable - I didn't think much of American Graffiti to be honest. He's a story/screenwriter at heart. Direction...it comes second to his amazing ability to build believable worlds (Star Wars, Indy). And it's those worlds we'll be seeing again come 2015.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 01 May 2014, 12:32
Dalaa. Oh fuck don't even remind me about Dalaa. Hands down one of the best best villains to grace the EU ever. Holy shit she was bad ass. Thrawn? Forget that blue wimp, the copper haird crazy was one of the top villains period.

Also Padme was bad ass like the American South West receives heavy rain. In short spurts during certain times of the year but otherwise a dry, barren wasteland.

Both of Abram's Star Trek movies under any other franchise name were... okay... at best. They were however terrible Star Trek movies. Winter would be bad ass. Wedge and Tyco (backed up by Biggs and Wes) would also be great.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 01 May 2014, 12:36
They were however terrible Star Wars movies.

That's because they were Star Trek movies.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 01 May 2014, 13:06
Typo corrected >.>;
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Post by: LeeC on 01 May 2014, 14:39
Considering its directed by JJ Abrams (I liked both new star treks and he snuck R2D2 in the first one he did) and its written by the guy who did The Empire Strikes Back (my favorite film of all time), I am hopeful.

Also, other than the Rogue Squadron book, I was never really that into the EU.  :-\  In fact the Force unleashed games (though fun to play) really pissed me off and made no sense to me.  Making Galen's family crest the explanation for the rebel alliance symbol cheapened it for me.  It was just cool looking with no explanations, looks like a fireball.  But making it his symbol was just utter nonsense.
not to mention (end game spoiler for force unleashed)
(click to show/hide)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 01 May 2014, 16:56
Force Unleashed is still part of the canon sadly enough. I wouldn't really count it as part of the EU, even then it's one of the very, very low points.
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Post by: LeeC on 02 May 2014, 11:36
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2014, 19:25
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Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2014, 19:30
there's a thread for rebels.  :-D

I watched ep 4 "revisited" today and something stuck out to me.  Remember when the gang beat up those two scanner guys and the two stormtroopers and took their armor to sneak around the death star?  What became of their bodies? :psyduck:

Also highly recommend watching the "revisited" version.  The death star battle scene alone is worth it!
word of caution though, when I first tried to get a hold of it I got a virus and spent 2 hours putting out fires on my machine.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 04 May 2014, 19:37
Their bodies got tossed in the smuggling compartments and were disposed of later.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2014, 20:04
there's a thread for rebels.  :-D

I thought there was, but for some reason I posted it here instead
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Post by: Kugai on 05 May 2014, 12:51
Their bodies got tossed in the smuggling compartments and were disposed of later.


Airlocks are fun.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 May 2014, 15:13
tldr, who's playing Jar Jar?
/snark

Seriously watching the first movie in the theater was the best part of being 12.  Glad I never grew up.
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Post by: jwhouk on 05 May 2014, 16:48
...you too?

First movie I ever sat through in its entirety.
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Post by: Kugai on 06 May 2014, 00:07
tldr, who's playing Jar Jar?

Jar Jar's dead

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Post by: LeeC on 06 May 2014, 15:15
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Post by: doombilly on 08 May 2014, 16:09
tldr, who's playing Jar Jar?

Jar Jar's dead

He could have been somewhere else when the planet blowed up.
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Post by: Kugai on 10 May 2014, 16:34
Did you watch the Vid to the end?
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Post by: GarandMarine on 11 May 2014, 06:20
So I have secured the EU stuff I wanted, namely Zahn's Thrawn series, both in the paperback AND in Darkhorse's omnibus of the comic (the entire trilogy's comic format in one massive hardbound book, and thanks to a chance encounter at a con the other year, my copy's autographed.

The rest of the EU stuff I wanted are the Stackpole/Alison Rogue Squadron books which I already had, along with I, Jedi, Dark Saber and The Courtship of Princess Leia, which introduces one of my favorite settings on the Star Wars universe, Dathomir.

Been rereading the Rogue Squadron books a lot. It kinda kills me that these characters aren't quite as real any more... especially Wedge and the crew, perhaps even more so then Han, Luke and Leia these were some of my favorite heroes growing up...

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080228203813/starwars/images/d/da/Rogue_Squadron.svg)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 13 May 2014, 10:09
(http://www.the-gutters.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/GUT498_Final.jpg)
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Post by: Thrillho on 13 May 2014, 10:59
The word 'special' being removed really would've made that much funnier.
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Post by: Lupercal on 15 May 2014, 15:43
HUGE STAR WARS NEWS

Denis Lawson turns down reprisal of Wedge, says "that would be fucking boring as hell, thanks for the cameo opportunity".

Now, all these years on, he finally realises he really can't do any good back there.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 May 2014, 16:50
well he also did try to convince his nephew Ewan Mcgregor to not do the prequels 'cause he didnt like Georgey.  Even with Georgey's hands off the project he probably still feels jilted by the franchise.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 15 May 2014, 20:14
Which sucks because Wedge is the best character ever.
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Post by: Thrillho on 16 May 2014, 01:24
I haven't seen these films for a long time but who the fuck is Wedge?
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Post by: GarandMarine on 16 May 2014, 03:27
Someone who didn't get a ton of screen time, but survived the Battle of Yavin and killed the second Death Star at Endor, all while being an average joe.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 May 2014, 06:23
Also one of Luke's friends, mentioned near the start of Episode 4.
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Post by: LeeC on 16 May 2014, 07:44
nah that was Biggs
(http://uturncrossfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/2.jpg)

Wedge isn't from Tatooine, he's from Corellia.  On top of that he was the one who thought the target being 2 meters wide was impossible to target even for a computer. And was one of the survivors of the death star attack, getting damaged and pulling out.
(http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Wedge_Antilles_1.jpg)

then he flew snow speeders with luke in tESB
(http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/WedgeMissionAccomplished.jpg)

then lead the attach on deathstar 2.  Him and Lando blew out the reactor.
(http://www.flickeringmyth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/wedge-antilles.jpg)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/239/2/5/wedge_antilles_and_star_wars_by_trotsky17-d5cnwkh.jpg)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 16 May 2014, 10:24
Wedge is still one of Luke's friends.

Wedge ABE

(http://static.tumblr.com/09c543003d5d2b68ec5a443ea51f62c1/lwjbqiq/Tnsn5hyw6/tumblr_static_4lrmxfvpcsg000kocssgkw0ck.jpg)
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Post by: Thrillho on 16 May 2014, 10:25
I haven't watched this films in forever, but I never noticed any of the X-wing pilots were recurring characters.

Now that I am aware, I care so little I wish I hadn't asked.
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Post by: LeeC on 16 May 2014, 12:07
Wedge is still one of Luke's friends.
Oh I know, my disagreement was about who was mentioned at the beginning of episode 4.  :-D
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Post by: Lupercal on 18 May 2014, 13:08
I haven't watched this films in forever, but I never noticed any of the X-wing pilots were recurring characters.

Now that I am aware, I care so little I wish I hadn't asked.

I care.
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 May 2014, 13:27
Okay?
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Post by: LeeC on 18 May 2014, 19:52
Star Wars if Gritty (https://imgur.com/gallery/rNPff)
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Post by: Kugai on 19 May 2014, 14:46
Band of Stormtroopers?
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Post by: GarandMarine on 20 May 2014, 14:06
Quoted in full to avoid a Hasbro/Disney take down notice.

Quote
Remember how Disney wanted to release a new Star Wars movie every year? According to this list of upcoming Star Wars toylines from Hasbro, they figured out what these movies will be through 2020, and the newest addition is one titled Red Five.

This list reportedly comes from a Hasbro toy event and published by StarWars-Union.de, who Hasbro later asked to take it down, so grain of salt and all.

2014: Rebels

2015: Episode VII

2016: Boba Fett

2017: Episode VIII

2018: Solo

2019: Episode IX

2020: Red Five

We've heard plenty of rumors that Disney was planning on making stand-alone Boba Fett and young Han Solo films, so that jibes. But what is Red Five? Could it be about the further X-Wing adventures of Luke Skywalker? Is it just a Disney shareholder-friendly name for a Rogue Squadron-type film? And if Disney's cartoon Rebels makes this list, could Red Five actually be another animated series?

I'm genuinely asking. Because really, Disney could do pretty much anything at this point and I wouldn't be that surprised.

So... Red Five... Rogue Squadron movie? <3


Also who the FUCK has the ability to play a young Han Solo? Answer: No one I can think of.
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Post by: LeeC on 20 May 2014, 14:14
here's an idea.  Rebels TV show leads into Boba Fett Tv show when it ends, then to Solo in the same format, culminating to Red 5.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 20 May 2014, 14:34
Those are movies though bro
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Post by: LeeC on 20 May 2014, 15:18
Rebels isn't a movie, its a TV show.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 20 May 2014, 16:52
*shrug* just going with what the guy who snagged this list from hasbro reported mange.


http://imgur.com/a/rNPff?gallery
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Post by: Lupercal on 20 May 2014, 23:33
Okay?

I'm guessing by the fact you haven't watched A New Hope in a while that you didn't get the reference...

I need to work on this.

Anyways, young Han Solo? Hmm. Nathan Fillion is the closest I can think of, but he's pretty much the same age Harrison was when he did Return of the Jedi.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 21 May 2014, 09:56
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Post by: LeeC on 21 May 2014, 11:48
....If I was in star wars, even a tiny part in the background, and I could pick myself out in the crowd while watching the movie...I...I don't know....  :-o
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Post by: GarandMarine on 02 Jun 2014, 09:50
http://sourcefed.com/star-wars-7-set-photos-leaked/
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 02 Jun 2014, 10:51
My reaction to the shots so far has been 'ugh.. Don't tell me they are going back to Tattoine AGAIN'. Seriously, for such a back water little planet (supposedly), it has seen an awful lot of action in the movies. I'm glad they are sticking with a lot of physical effects though.

The bonus news that Lupita Nyong'o has been added to the cast pleases me though. I wonder if it lends and credence to the rumor I reported last page, that she was cast to play Asajj Ventress...
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Post by: LeeC on 02 Jun 2014, 11:42
I doubt it, but honestly I'd like for us to move away from the old and get brand new characters.  Having the original Cast there to pass the torch is a good idea but lets actually expand the universe now that we don't have to neatly tie everything together to match up with the originals like they had to for the PT.  It gives more room for creativity.  Maybe seeing Luke go out in the first movie the way Obi or Yoda did.

I think thats why I am hopeful for the Star Wars: Rebels TV show.  No familiar faces.  :-D
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 02 Jun 2014, 12:15
Yeah, I doubt she's going to wind up playing Asajj.. but I can dream. As it was pointed out though, if she survived that long, Asajj would be in her 80s probably during the time of Episode 7. So it wouldn't make a lot of sense to cast a 20 something actress to play the role. Unless that was a very active and agile grandmother. That, and I could just imagine the pointless furor if they took a prominent actress of color and literally painted her white for a role.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 03 Jun 2014, 09:55
http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/03/star-wars-episode-7-millennium-falcon-set-photos/
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Post by: Masterpiece on 04 Jun 2014, 11:42
[tweet]474206241603198976[/tweet]
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Post by: Lupercal on 12 Jun 2014, 04:12
Gideon, please get the fuck away from my Star Wars.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpzfTVBIUAIBz14.jpg)

[tweet]476472632125444096[/tweet]

VOMIT, VOMIT EVERYWHERE
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Post by: Thrillho on 12 Jun 2014, 05:15
Man with that haircut and outfit he looks like a candidate for the next Doctor.
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Post by: Lupercal on 14 Jun 2014, 01:32
I suppose it's fitting, a garishly evil, dark man masquerading as a chancellor...
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Post by: Lupercal on 26 Jun 2014, 12:11
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!

Just read that Rian Johnson has been put in the chair to write and direct episodes 8 & 9. Yep, the same guy who directed Looper and three of the greatest episodes of Breaking Bad (Ozymandias, Fifty-One, Fly) is getting in on Star Wars. I have hope. And it should hopefully quiet the anti-Abrams mob, but that will entirely depend on E7's success or failure.
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Post by: LeeC on 22 Jul 2014, 12:09
Just gonna place this here.
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Post by: Lupercal on 22 Jul 2014, 16:44
Ha. I would love to hear Terrance Stamp say "...well holy crap you guys!".

The more I think about Episode 1, the more I think it would've been better to have Anakin as a teenager, possibly even as old as he was in Episode II. It just makes more sense - how much of Episode 1 reflects on the original trilogy?

Anyway, this was brought to my attention today. Originally thought the ship was a Z-95. Official Star Wars Twitter account says its an Episode VII X-Wing. COOL.

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Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Jul 2014, 18:13
.....how does is it an X wing if it doesn't X? Only looks like a single wing there.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Jul 2014, 18:52
I've often said that the whole prequel trilogy would make so much more sense if Anakin was 15-16 during episode one. He would have had legitimate reasons for building up anger and resentment growing up a slave. It would have made more sense if Watto was even more of an ass. As it was, Anakin and his mother seemed to have a fair amount of free time and enough disposable money/access to parts for Anakin to build a droid and pod racer. It would have eliminated the rather uncomfortable 'Padme falls in love with an 8 year old' subtext. The Jedi Masters would have had legitimate reasons to not want to train Anakin. It just would have made so much more sense...
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Post by: LeeC on 22 Jul 2014, 19:11
The more I think about Episode 1, the more I think it would've been better to have Anakin as a teenager, possibly even as old as he was in Episode II. It just makes more sense - how much of Episode 1 reflects on the original trilogy?
I am guessing you havnt seen these then:

and especially this:
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Post by: Lupercal on 23 Jul 2014, 02:36
.....how does is it an X wing if it doesn't X? Only looks like a single wing there.

Once the s-foils do their thing...

I think the design is based on the early McQuarrie concepts for the X-Wing:

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/screencrush.com/files/2014/07/ralph-mcquarrie-x-wing.jpg)

Thanks for the vids Lee. I try to keep away from "what ifs" about the prequels to avoid spoiling them any more for myself, but I'll check these out once I've hit reply!
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Post by: LeeC on 25 Jul 2014, 10:12
(http://i.imgur.com/qX8w8Bj.jpg)

I friggen LOVE that he's going all Kenobi!
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtNYhZZNWBM8AraoXNDlhfqsSfneP7MysYhiuyp0ijvz0gZHi5)
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Post by: LeeC on 14 Aug 2014, 15:16
(http://i.imgur.com/GrWJv8R.jpg)
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Post by: Kugai on 14 Aug 2014, 16:06
The Kenobi is strong with this one.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Aug 2014, 21:26
Ben? Ben! No! Don't leave me Ben!
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Aug 2014, 05:43
I'm so glad the stormies are going to be wearing these
(https://i.imgur.com/h5l7UEv.jpg)

instead of this
(http://i.imgur.com/xYZwMfl.jpg)
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Aug 2014, 06:30
I'm just wondering... Why are there going to be Stormtroopers in new, updated armor? That implies the Empire is still alive and doing quite well, despite the deaths of the Emperor and Vader. As well as the decimation of a good chunk of the fleet over Endor and the Death Star II. I guess that evil bureaucracy continues on, even when you cut off the head. Or was there someone waiting to become a new Emperor?
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Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Aug 2014, 10:53
The EU basically suggested that a lot of the Empire splintered, a good chunk of the fleet wasn't lost at Endor, but a good chunk of first rate captains were. (You don't get to be in Vader and the Emperor's direct command unless you rock, you die pretty quickly otherwise). So the thought that a remnant of the Empire, a galaxy spanning organization doesn't tumble over night when you kill the Emperor isn't surprising to me.

There might even be a sith running around reviving the Sith on a big scale. Which would be awesome.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Aug 2014, 11:12
I expect that the Empire splintered and the Rebels would have to keep fighting. I mean, people are not just going to turn over power if they've been lording it over the locals for  years. But the suggestion is that the back of the Empire was broken at the Battle of Endor. Now some decades later, X-wings are still beat up junkers, while Stormtroopers have new, even shinier and slicker armor suggests to me that nothing really has changed in the decades since Endor.

It's all supposition of course. And we really can't take anything from the EU anymore, since it was officially dumped into the bin.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Aug 2014, 11:48
X-wing!? Junker!?

(http://media.giphy.com/media/PtlLgdMTPoiaY/giphy.gif)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Aug 2014, 12:17
We've already seen the slick new X-wings though...
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 Aug 2014, 02:39
I suppose one of the great things about Star Wars is that there is always more to it than one would think. I mean, all of the Jedi were supposedly killed, but that didn't happen. I always figured the celebration on Endor was similar to that of the jubilation/ceremony after destroying the first Death Star - yeah, we majorly crippled the enemy but its by no means and out-and-out defeat.

I know we can't take EU stories for 'truth' in the SW canon any more, but some of their basic details will be the same - Luke as a mentor, the New Republic growing but fighting a familiar enemy, etc.

I like the look of these new helmets. Makes me think of Dark Forces era Star Wars, which was one of the more exciting parallel time frames of the OT.
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Post by: Edguy on 28 Nov 2014, 08:19
The Force has awoken?
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Post by: BenRG on 28 Nov 2014, 08:34
I expect that the Empire splintered and the Rebels would have to keep fighting. I mean, people are not just going to turn over power if they've been lording it over the locals for  years. But the suggestion is that the back of the Empire was broken at the Battle of Endor. Now some decades later, X-wings are still beat up junkers, while Stormtroopers have new, even shinier and slicker armor suggests to me that nothing really has changed in the decades since Endor.

IIRC, at the end of the Yuutzang Vong War, the New Republic that the Rebels founded a few years after the Emperor's death collapsed and was replaced by the Galactic Alliance, which had elements of the Empire (including an ex-Imperial Admiral as the Chief of State). By the point we reach The Force Awakens, therefore, something resembling the Empire is on the rise again, although it is no longer Sith-dominated.

It makes sense that the T-41 X-Wing, a design that is over 30 years old, is approaching or passed obsolescence in front-line terms. So would have the original TIE.f TIE Fighter. However, I have no doubt that private operators and the national guards of extreme Rim systems would still use them and consider them their top-performing vehicles.

That's assuming that Lucas and Abrams don't retcon the entire EU out of existence. I've got to say that this sounds more likely.
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Nov 2014, 08:36
The trailer just raises more questions!  :-D
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Post by: Edguy on 28 Nov 2014, 09:07
So, how about the lightsaber with laser arm guards? Am I alone in thinking that looks pretty silly?
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Post by: BenRG on 28 Nov 2014, 09:17
.....how does is it an X wing if it doesn't X? Only looks like a single wing there.

Actually, I don't think that's an X-Wing at all. IMO, it's one of the predecessor type, the Z-95 Headhunter. If so, the fans will go wild; they never forgave Lucus for using that ridiculous two-seat six-foil heavy fighter instead of the Headhunter in Revenge of the Sith.
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Nov 2014, 09:26
.....how does is it an X wing if it doesn't X? Only looks like a single wing there.

Actually, I don't think that's an X-Wing at all.
its actually an x-wing. I nerdgasmed when i saw that part of the trailer
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Post by: GarandMarine on 28 Nov 2014, 10:28
Sigh. The trailer just isn't doing it for me.
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Post by: BenRG on 28 Nov 2014, 13:27
.....how does is it an X wing if it doesn't X? Only looks like a single wing there.

Actually, I don't think that's an X-Wing at all.

its actually an x-wing. I nerdgasmed when i saw that part of the trailer

Not the trailer, the video thumbnail of the blue-detailed starfighter on the previous page (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28376.msg1256747.html#msg1256747). X-Wings have four circular inlets whilst this one only has two inlets and two lasers. It also has a shallower fuselage. It looks more like a Z-95 than an X-Wing to me.

So, how about the lightsaber with laser arm guards? Am I alone in thinking that looks pretty silly?

Yeah, silly and dangerous in a way that screams 'cheap "zOmGaweSuM!!1!" bait' to me.
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Post by: Akima on 28 Nov 2014, 16:23
So, how about the lightsaber with laser arm guards? Am I alone in thinking that looks pretty silly?
Extremely silly, in the same way as fantasy weapons with spikes in places that would be more dangerous to the wielder than anyone else. Of course the original lightsabers, with no handguard at all, were extremely silly too. The comic-relief beachball robot is silly. The tie-fighters zooming about in an atmosphere look pretty silly (aerodynamics much?). Oh, and what is the betting that the X-wing pilot, and girl on the hoverbike, are "good guys", and the guy in the stormtrooper armour is a baddie? :(

That trailer does nothing for me.
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Post by: jwhouk on 28 Nov 2014, 16:43
Damn, are we all that jaded in the age of the internet?
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Post by: Akima on 28 Nov 2014, 16:52
Oh, sorry. ZOMG! Everything in that trailer was new and fresh and awesome!
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Nov 2014, 17:08
eh, I said the new design of the X-wings made them look like Z-95s when they revealed it months back.. It's like they are designing in reverse. As far as the light-longsword goes.. It's stupid. Not any more stupid than Maul's pole saber though. The little cross bar blades are just pointless and potentially dangerous. And they wouldn't serve the purpose of a cross guard in catching a blade, since if they did, the enemy's lightsaber would come into contact with the metal parts of the cross guard, not the energy parts. Just another idea they thought would be could that makes no logical sense.

My peeve though is... Tatooine. Freaking, bloody Tatooine. Again. Supposedly the armpit of the galaxy, a little no where world on the Outer Rim. Yet it gave birth (literally apparently) to Darth Vader. It's where Luke grew up and Obi-Wan hid out. It's been in nearly every movie and visited so often... And here we are again. I would at least like some explanation that the planet is actually some Force nexus and a lot more important than everyone assumed. But that would be stretching it that nobody's figured that out for thousands of years. And I imagine they are just going back there as a location because it's appeared so much. Essentially the film's version of 'it's famous because it's famous'.
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Post by: Akima on 28 Nov 2014, 17:17
That is essentially the problem with the whole trailer. Everything is a call-back. Tatooine, stormtroopers, cute/funny robot, desert junkyard, girl on a hoverbike, the Millennium Falcon, tie-fighters & X-wings, lightsabers, ominous dark-robed figures... It rather screams: "We are too terrified to change even one teat on our money-cow."
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Post by: J on 28 Nov 2014, 17:38
pretty much. the whole thing comes across as a pandery fan-film to me.
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Post by: Stoon on 28 Nov 2014, 17:50
So, 30 years after the fuzzy muppet Star Wars movie, and The Empire is still using TIE fighters, and the rebels are still using X-Wing fighters.  Nothing new after 30 years.

You can tell The Empire is run by conservatives.  Conservatives always repress science and technology spending.
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 28 Nov 2014, 17:53
*lets out a long, LONG breath.*

Alright, so with some considerations to the obvious (Crossbar guard on a lightsaber MADE of lightsabers, really? What crack riddled hallucination concocted THAT very obvious workplace accident? Also yes, so very, very pandery) I do find myself looking at some parts and feeling somewhat hopeful as to what they may mean. For example, the bits with the stormtroopers didn't actually make me at all think they were specifically evil, surprisingly enough. I kinda hope that whatever the case is, they get some better shrift, and some acknowledgement of the fact they were supposed to be elite as all fuck, instead of having a marksmanship academy named after them.

Secondly, while that was very, very, very, very similiar to the Falcon. . . I don't think it was. Too clean, I think, and the dish on top wasn't the same. So maybe something different, but yeah, agreed on how it was very much pander bait.



So, terrible sneak peek, to be sure, but still some hopeful bits in my opinion.
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Post by: jwhouk on 28 Nov 2014, 18:12
It was pointed out in another online forum that the Falcon lost a dish during ROTJ.

I'm betting our protagonist in the stormtrooper getup is a descendant of Mace Windu.
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 28 Nov 2014, 18:16
True enough, but does Solo really strike you as the sort to not have his baby looking just as fine as she always did? Guy would probably agonize over buying new screws if they changed the look of his beloved ship. Still, good point.
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Post by: J on 28 Nov 2014, 18:48
if han cared about what the falcon looked like, people wouldn't keep saying it looked like a piece of shit.

to me, it seems perfectly reasonable that he would make numerous modifications and upgrades over the course of 3 decades; trying to keep it running as it falls further & further into obsolescence.

one of those modifications may very well have been to install a new radar/deflector/whatever that didn't require an external antenna. which would make sense, as he was joining the rebellion & would be taking the ship into combat more often, rather than running away like he did as a smuggler.
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 28 Nov 2014, 18:54
It's not about the fact that it was a bucket of bolts, it was the fact that it was HIS bucket of bolts.

And as for what role you'd skew your mods to on it, you don't fix what ain't broken. The Rebellion was a guerrilla force outside of the very few times it stood for a pitched battle, so the Falcon as it was was a good fit. A smugglers ship, perfect for getting in and out as undetected as possible with whatever the cargo would have been, with shields and engine enough to survive and escape being caught in the act if it ever was.
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Post by: Masterpiece on 28 Nov 2014, 18:57
Liked this article about it:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/28/7302795/what-the-star-wars-episode-vii-trailer-tells-us-about-the-galaxys (http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/28/7302795/what-the-star-wars-episode-vii-trailer-tells-us-about-the-galaxys)
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Nov 2014, 19:34
Yeah I don't feel one way or another about the teaser trailer




I think the prequels broke me
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 28 Nov 2014, 21:17
if han cared about what the falcon looked like, people wouldn't keep saying it looked like a piece of shit.

Hey, she may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Nov 2014, 01:57
That is essentially the problem with the whole trailer. Everything is a call-back. Tatooine, stormtroopers, cute/funny robot, desert junkyard, girl on a hoverbike, the Millennium Falcon, tie-fighters & X-wings, lightsabers, ominous dark-robed figures... It rather screams: "We are too terrified to change even one teat on our money-cow."

...are you familiar with Lucas Arts and Das Maus at all? ;P

"We are too terrified to change even one teat on our money-cow."


is engraved on the Disney board room wall and branded onto all executive level staff.
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Post by: jwhouk on 29 Nov 2014, 06:21
I'm biased.

Star Wars was the first film I actually sat all the way through and watched.

I like the trailer.
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Post by: Kugai on 29 Nov 2014, 16:43
And on a bit of a sad note, David Prowse has revealed that he is suffering from Dementia

http://www.epictimes.com/2014/11/the-man-behind-the-darth-vadar-mask-david-prowse-reveals-he-suffers-from-dementia/ (http://www.epictimes.com/2014/11/the-man-behind-the-darth-vadar-mask-david-prowse-reveals-he-suffers-from-dementia/)
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Post by: BenRG on 30 Nov 2014, 06:40
Just to remind us just what a crazy pilot Han Solo is and just what a hotrod the Millennium Falcon is, someone has actually re-edited that part of the teaser to show the Falcon's manoeuvres against a stable-horizon background.

(http://i.imgur.com/MVhkmQa.gif)
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Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Nov 2014, 14:01
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/11/29/5-reasons-the-new-star-wars-trailer-was-the-perfect-first-glimpse-at-the-force-awakens/
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Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Nov 2014, 17:05
Dat special edition trailer that just leaked do
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Post by: mustang6172 on 30 Nov 2014, 18:43
You can tell The Empire is run by conservatives.  Conservatives always repress science and technology spending.

Have you seen America's defense budget?
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 01 Dec 2014, 17:27
Buying lots of stuff doesn't mean you're buying the most advanced stuff...
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Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Dec 2014, 18:24
Right... because America's military isn't quite literally the bleeding technological edge. We're approaching rail guns, combat ready laser weapons, exo-skeletons and fuck only knows what DARPA has sealed away in their labs. The defense industry has always massively advanced tech.
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Post by: Kugai on 01 Dec 2014, 18:38
And expensive flops

REALLY expensive flops





Then there's the JSF.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 Dec 2014, 18:45
They have Gundams on display.
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 01 Dec 2014, 20:13
Right... because America's military isn't quite literally the bleeding technological edge. We're approaching rail guns, combat ready laser weapons, exo-skeletons and fuck only knows what DARPA has sealed away in their labs. The defense industry has always massively advanced tech.

We've been "approaching" that stuff for 30 years and some of it actually works, yet the standard weapons for the armed forces are M16s, various sniper rifles, and pistols.
Because bleeding edge tech is expensive, finicky, full of bugs, and easy to break.
The low tech, cheap and reliable stuff will always be the choice of the battlefield.
No matter which Galaxy that battlefield exists in.
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Post by: hedgie on 01 Dec 2014, 20:46
Humans are also cheaper and more expendable than terminators or hypothetical Evas (not to mention the trouble of finding a sane pilot for the latter).
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Post by: mustang6172 on 01 Dec 2014, 21:26
Right... because America's military isn't quite literally the bleeding technological edge. We're approaching rail guns, combat ready laser weapons, exo-skeletons and fuck only knows what DARPA has sealed away in their labs. The defense industry has always massively advanced tech.

We've been "approaching" that stuff for 30 years and some of it actually works, yet the standard weapons for the armed forces are M16s, various sniper rifles, and pistols.

Not to mention the fact that robots patrol the sky.
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Post by: Kugai on 01 Dec 2014, 22:15
Skynet anyone?
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Post by: BenRG on 01 Dec 2014, 23:09
In many ways, Palpatine and Anakin Skywalker were fascists. They believed in establishing absolute order through force. Like their RL equivalents, this would doubtless include open-ended scientific research without any ethical controls so long as it produced tools to increase the Emperor's power.
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 02 Dec 2014, 01:30
Right... because America's military isn't quite literally the bleeding technological edge. We're approaching rail guns, combat ready laser weapons, exo-skeletons and fuck only knows what DARPA has sealed away in their labs. The defense industry has always massively advanced tech.

We've been "approaching" that stuff for 30 years and some of it actually works, yet the standard weapons for the armed forces are M16s, various sniper rifles, and pistols.

Not to mention the fact that robots patrol the sky.

You're overhyping them, they're basically a more expensive version of this:
(http://www.eurocosm.com/Application/images/Toys/remote-control-plane-lg.jpg)
With a camera (and sometimes gun) attached.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 02 Dec 2014, 05:30
Yes. F-18s and MV-22 Ospreys are super low tech, as are the various shaped high explosives and anti-tank weapons we run around with, never mind the mini drones, satcoms, GPS units, laser designators and gods knows what else they're loading us down with these days (NVGs and PEQ3s are my favorites, night vision + infrared bore sighted laser = all sorts of fun.) You'd also be remiss to call a lot of those sniper rifles low tech. The level of precision machining that goes into say, an Accuracy International .338 Lapua Platform is astonishing, and do represent the razor's edge in precision firearms manufacturing and ballistics. Side note, don't let Caspian Sea Monster hear you call the M16/AR platform low tech, she'll give you an earful about that particular design.

It's taken 30 years to get to that stuff in the testing and field operational sense because that's quite literally how far ahead of the curve the United States is tech wise. For fuck's sake the Gerald Ford class of super carriers is replacing the faithful steam powered catapult with an electromagnetic variant, meanwhile our closest rivals are using fucking SKI JUMPS. For suck's sake look how stupid this is:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/57/Kusnzov2.jpg)
Never mind the significant military disadvantages the STOBAR design has vs. CATOBAR.

Radar, GPS, Much, if not all modern emergency medicine and trauma care, a wide variety of exciting new alloys and metals, pretty much the whole of modern aviation and a good chunk of our spatial advances, satellite communications as previously mentioned, a bunch of things no one gets excited about any more involving radio, nuclear energy, massive advances in photography and photo imaging, a good chunk of modern computing AND of course, last but not least, the internet in it's base concept, all courtesy of the United States Department of Defense.

And expensive flops

REALLY expensive flops





Then there's the JSF.

Welcome to science and technology? Not like this is anything new, especially in Aerospace. Hell the MV-22 Osprey killed a fair number of people, but that's the risk of pushing the envelope. Accidents can and will happen, and the resulting aircraft is a revolutionary design that's completely overhauled how we approach medium lift capacity. The procurement program's totally fucked though. I till however point out that the desperately needed JSF VTOL model is working just fine. Apparently the Carrier variant did excellent at it's first sea trials and impressed the hell out of the F-18 drivers putting her through her paces. The Harrier pilots love the B, but then, the Harrier's so old

However, we're way off course.
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Post by: Edguy on 02 Dec 2014, 06:40
Ok, gotcha.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 02 Dec 2014, 20:12
This is as good a time as any for us all to brush up on our Star Wars knowledge.

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Post by: Edguy on 03 Dec 2014, 05:38
"The Christ is strong in this one!"
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 Dec 2014, 06:16
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/12/CAStripNov30.png)
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Post by: Kugai on 03 Dec 2014, 13:30
*Snerk*
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Post by: LeeC on 04 Dec 2014, 12:23
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Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Dec 2014, 13:37
I have allegedly leaked info

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If HALF of this is true I am hype as fuck now.
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Post by: LeeC on 04 Dec 2014, 13:50
Interesting, and how did you come across this information.  It seems plausible.  Though I am more inclined to think the crossguard lightsaber wielding person is Brienne of Tarth whom I am calling Darth Tarth.
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Post by: BenRG on 04 Dec 2014, 13:57
It was always infinitely more likely than not but I'm still a bit PO'd about the EU thing.
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Post by: J on 04 Dec 2014, 14:19
ok, i kinda gave up on star wars years ago. but if any of that is true, it'd be the first thing i've heard thus far that makes me think this thing still has some promise.

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Post by: J on 04 Dec 2014, 14:24
It was always infinitely more likely than not but I'm still a bit PO'd about the EU thing.

honestly, i don't know how they could possibly make a coherent movie with all that baggage attached to it; trying to make it fit with decades of stories, which were often contradictory, and of extremely varying quality. starting with a clean slate really is the best option, i think.

besides which, do you think disney would really canonize any material they didn't have complete and total copyright control over?

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Post by: LeeC on 11 Dec 2014, 13:58
IS anyone else snickering that John Boyega's Character's name is Finn as in Finn the human?

(http://i.imgur.com/jznhA.gif)
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Dec 2014, 17:36
It's the first thing I thought of.. The question is, who is Jake?
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Post by: LeeC on 11 Dec 2014, 19:53
The droid BB-8?
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Dec 2014, 20:33
IG-88?

J/k
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Post by: LeeC on 11 Dec 2014, 20:39
BB-8 is apparently the soccer ball droid from the trailer.  :-P  And the girl on the speeder bike is Rey.  And greatsword lightsaber dude is Kylo.
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Post by: BenRG on 12 Dec 2014, 01:18
And greatsword lightsaber dude is Kylo.

A sith-sword... which is actually partly manufactured by focussing the Dark Side into the lasing crystals. I wonder if this is going to turn out to be a 'The One Ring' situation where, every time he uses the sword, it corrupts him until, no matter what his original intentions were, he's become a  tool of the Darkness?
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Dec 2014, 07:27
Depending on how you look at it, using the Dark Side is inherently corrupting, or not. It's one of the things Lucas was rather inconsistent on. Which is realistic, but frustrating to other writers and trying to make sense of the greater whole. In some episodes, the Light and the Dark are treated as actual, almost intelligent things. Turning to the Dark, even briefly, has a cumulative and corruptive influence on a person. This unfortunately takes some responsibility to Dark Side users. They become as much victims of an all powerful, evil force. Essentially 'the Devil made me do it'.

At other times the Force just is. It is neither good nor evil. It has no sentience and only maybe some inclination. Whether you were Dark or Light or somewhere in between was a matter of what you chose to do with it, and what you did in general. The Dark Side is considered Dark because as Yoda puts it, it is easier, more seductive. Instead of restraint and control, you get to unleash your anger and fury on something or someone as a real, tangible force. Could you imagine what it would be like for most people, who suffer dozens of frustrations and aggressions at the hands of other things and people every day. And they could just lash out with their mind. I am a good person... But the kind of damage I could do when I get a burst of anger at someone cutting me off, or having a frustrating day and the copying machine or whatever jams... again. Yeah, giving into that would be easy, very easy. And now think that having such powers puts you in a position of strength over other people, where it is very difficult for them to stop you from doing whatever you want, to whomever you want whenever you want. It would be very easy to slide to Darkness based on that. But in the end, it would all be that person's doing. Not the bidding of some omnipresent, near omnipowerful Force. The power itself may be neutral, but humans being humans (or aliens...) unlimited power tends to corrupt.

In the end, there haven't been any real answers as to whether the Force itself has alignment and intelligence, or just exists and people blame their own actions on something greater than them. Which is an excuse that's been used all throughout history to try and get out of the consequences of heinous actions.

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Post by: Edguy on 12 Dec 2014, 07:43
If they go with The Force being some kind of sentient deity, I'm going to be very, very disappointed. That's worse than midichlorians.
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Post by: LeeC on 12 Dec 2014, 07:57
The Clone Wars series tiptoed a bit close to that but they still kept the force a mystery.  GL described the force as a calm lake but when the dark side shows up it disturbs the lake causing ripples in the water.  The light side is what "balances everything" out and makes the water calm again.  This "awakening" could just be new ripples in the pond.
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Post by: Edguy on 12 Dec 2014, 08:11
I think the force is best kept as pure natural force, with the "dark" and "light" side just being subjective perspectives on how to utilize it.
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Post by: BenRG on 12 Dec 2014, 09:51
To me, the Force has alignment but no sentience. The nature of the energies that the adept accesses is determined by the outcome that they want on a conscious level. To use destructive forces, like Force Lightning, you have to access Dark Force energy, the energy of destruction and entropy. Because of its inherit nature, it induces spiritual and physical corruption in those who make too free use of it. Conversely, using the Force for a positive purpose like healing requires accessing the Light Force of growth and harmony. This similarly has a positive effect on its user, which might be the reason Yoda lived so long.

The other thing to remember is that I suspect that using Dark Force energy is mildly addictive, both on a spiritual and a physical level. The rush of easy power and easy solutions, the sick pleasure of dominating others; as well as being morally corrupting, these can also be habit-forming. The more one uses power, the more one wants to use it and will find excuses for doing so, accelerating the process of corruption in a negative feedback loop. I think that this is one of the reasons the Jedi have such strong emotional and personal disciplines, to control the desire for power that leaves one open to the temptations of the Dark.

Then we add the other distinction (which is practically the only element of Jedi lore in The Phantom Menace that's part of my head-canon). That of 'Universal' Force and 'Living' Force. The Universal Force represents the ultimate heartbeat of creation itself. It is beyond human definitions of 'alignment'; it is the absolute energy of nature itself. The Living Force is the energy created by life-forms. It is part of the Universal Force but, because it's energies are in part created by sentient life-forms, it is 'infected', for a lack of a better term, with our limited nature, our morality and our focus on destiny (personal destiny, especially; the Universal Force tends to be more about the absolute balance of nature) and alignment (whether a person is good or evil).
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Post by: Kugai on 12 Dec 2014, 12:05
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/Kugai2/GrayJedi.jpg)
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Post by: Akima on 16 Dec 2014, 14:21
Pretentious, poorly-written, with an illustration ripped-off from *ahem* inspired by the Assassin's Creed games? :roll:  If there is no dark or light side, how can there be a balance to be maintained?

I just take the Force as a clumsily-expressed misunderstanding of the Tao and qi muddled together, with the serial numbers filed off, and yet presented as something original. Taoism explicitly embraces balance, but not between good and evil (yin and yang are complementary, not opposed); imbalance is the evil. Qi is simply a force of nature (assuming you believe it exists) with no sentience or moral nature at all. I would see Sith as corrupted by their delusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidy%C4%81_(Buddhism)), not by some hypothetical "external" Dark Side, but then I am probably no more able to escape my own philosophical/religious background than George Lucas was his dualistic, Abrahamic one.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Dec 2014, 14:23
I always found the force to be a fantasy mixture of ESP and Zoroastrianism
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Post by: LeeC on 16 Dec 2014, 14:32
Taoism explicitly embraces balance, but not between good and evil (yin and yang are complementary, not opposed); imbalance is the evil. Qi is simply a force of nature (assuming you believe it exists) with no sentience or moral nature at all. I would see Sith as corrupted by their delusion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidy%C4%81_(Buddhism)), not by some hypothetical "external" Dark Side, but then I am probably no more able to escape my own philosophical/religious background than George Lucas was his dualistic, Abrahamic one.

Actually that is exactly how George Lucas explained the "balance" of the force.  Sith is the imbalance.  Jedi bring balance.  A common misunderstanding is that bringing balance of the force is balancing good and evil, light and dark, sith and jedi.  Nope, Just Jedi are about balance and Sith are imbalance.  So Anakin was suppose to make everything all balance with this chosen one thing by balancing the force.  Not destroying the balance (as Obi-Wan said after slicing Anakin's arms and legs off) by becoming a big Sith.

Think of it this way, Anakin was suppose to be the Avatar and balance the 4 nations and stuff.  Instead he became the firelord and destroyed the balance and invaded everyone.
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Post by: Edguy on 16 Dec 2014, 16:10
How does one balance the force, technically? Must ther be equal amounts of force on each side of some center? What axis do they balance the force around? What will happen if it topples?
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Post by: mustang6172 on 16 Dec 2014, 19:24
I'm pretty sure the force is just bacteria in one's blood.  :clairedoge:
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Post by: hedgie on 16 Dec 2014, 19:47
One of the most BS thing about the prequels.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Dec 2014, 19:55
I'm pretty sure the whole prophecy was bunk... The only ones who seemed to believe in it were Qui-gon and Obi-wan.  There was never any indication that the Force was out of balance in the first place. The Senate was, with all the bickering. And the galaxy was, what with Palpatine pulling strings with the war and pretty much everything.  But none of that seems to show an imbalance. The other side would be to look at it in terms of Order and Chaos. Which would fit the concepts of the Jedi and Sith... except in the end it was the Sith who were the ones who brought both Chaos and Order, through the formation of the Empire.
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Post by: Gladstone on 16 Dec 2014, 19:58
I'm pretty sure the force is just bacteria in one's blood.  :clairedoge:

No no no no no, everyone gets that wrong.  Midichlorians aren't what makes a person Force-sensitive, they're just attracted to Force-sensitive individuals.  The more a person is in tune with the Force, the more fertile a breeding ground for these apparently-harmless Force-sensitive bacteria.  Problem is, the Jedi of the Old Republic got it all switched around and assumed that Midichlorians were what gave the Jedi their powers, so they figured all they needed to do was find people with high MC counts, et voila!, perfect Jedi!  But being especially Force-sensitive isn't actually guarantee that one will use the Force for good, so obviously more training is required.  The Jedi failed to do that with Anakin and just trusted in dumb prophecy instead, which got them in a world of trouble, which is why a generation later Obi-Wan was wise enough to not mention blood parasites to Luke at all.  The kid's got some talent?  Better goddamn train him, then.

And with that little bit of headcanon, Episode I becomes slightly more bearable.  But only slightly.
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Post by: hedgie on 16 Dec 2014, 20:04
Now just edit-out Jar-Jar.
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Post by: Gladstone on 16 Dec 2014, 20:18
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.
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Post by: mustang6172 on 16 Dec 2014, 20:55
Now just edit-out Jar-Jar.

I haven't found it myself, but there are rumors that "The Phantom Edit" is somewhere on the Internet.
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Post by: celticgeek on 16 Dec 2014, 21:10
A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct.

Frank Herbert, Dune series
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Post by: Gladstone on 16 Dec 2014, 21:25
I haven't found it myself, but there are rumors that "The Phantom Edit" is somewhere on the Internet.

Right here on Youtube. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfEcaH2Db1s)  Although I haven't watched it to verify, so apologies if you're rickrolled a few minutes in.
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Post by: GarandMarine on 19 Dec 2014, 11:40
https://www.reddit.com/comments/2pqcqy/slug/cmz6s38
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 19 Dec 2014, 22:46
https://www.reddit.com/comments/2pqcqy/slug/cmz6s38

I managed to keep a staight face until "defenceless Peace Moon". :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Pilchard123 on 20 Dec 2014, 01:35
Then maybe you'll like Darths and Droids (http://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0001.html). It's where the Peace Moon joke came from originally.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 20 Dec 2014, 12:00
A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct.

Frank Herbert, Dune series



"Time is an illusion.  Lunchtime doubly so."

Douglas Adams, The Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: hedgie on 20 Dec 2014, 15:42
Drink up, the world's about to end.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Dec 2014, 16:13
...Is this some sort of reference in-Universe to the number of different styles of lightsabers there are?

 :claireface:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: BenRG on 21 Dec 2014, 00:38
...Is this some sort of reference in-Universe to the number of different styles of lightsabers there are?

 :claireface:

In the extended universe, the colour of the lightsabre's blade is determined by the particular way that the adept in question follows the guidance of the Force. There are also many Forms of lightsabre katas that can define the shape of the weapon. For example, Form Three requires a double-bladed weapon.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Dec 2014, 06:23
...aaaaand someone didn't get my lame attempt at a 42 joke.  :meh:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Mar 2015, 12:24
Star Wars: Episode VIII to be released on May 26, 2017, and the first spin-off film gets the title Rogue One. (source (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-episode-viii-gets-release-date-spinoff-movie-called-rogue-one-1201451449/))

A May release, as is right and proper.  And I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Rogue One is an X-Wing movie.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: BenRG on 12 Mar 2015, 12:40
And I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Rogue One is an X-Wing movie.

It can't be worse than Wing Commander.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Mar 2015, 12:41
By the name, it seems pretty easy to guess that it's a movie about Rogue Squadron, or at least a pilot from them...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 12 Mar 2015, 13:22
I would love to see some battle of Rogue squadron.  Either the first rendition with Luke or the second with Wedge and Coran Horn (which is not not cannon unless they do it).
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 29 Mar 2015, 18:57
go fans!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: BenRG on 30 Mar 2015, 03:42
I've seen this guy's work before. It leaves Clone Wars in the dust, IMHO. I suppose it just goes to repeat something that I said over on the Star Trek thread: Sometimes the fans' love of the franchise leads to better quality going into the fan works than goes into the official output.
Title: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Mar 2015, 06:39
And that is the difference between the two franchises. One goes all ape-#### over the "plagiarism" while the other has accepted it for so long, the fans end up writing for the series.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 30 Mar 2015, 09:51
the fans end up writing for the series.
Considering J.J. Abrams stated he was always a Star Wars fan and preferred it to Star Trek, it can't be far from the truth.  :wink:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 16 Apr 2015, 10:52
(http://i.imgur.com/ddqLCfP.png)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 16 Apr 2015, 11:18
I just nerdgasmed all over my workstation!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: BenRG on 16 Apr 2015, 11:26
I just nerdgasmed all over my workstation!

I showed it to my mother (a Harrison Ford fangirl to the bone) and she wore the most interesting smile at the end of the clip! :lol:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 11:35
eeeeeeeeeeeee

Can't believe I ever doubted this.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Apr 2015, 11:39
I think I need a few minutes...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 16 Apr 2015, 11:45
I think I need a few minutes...


Not going to lie, I teared up out of excitement after watching it.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 11:59
Seriously, that first shot is magnificent.

"Oh, it's a crashed X-Wing.  That's, wait--OHMYGOD THAT'S A STAR DESTROYER."

Looks like a matte painting, too.  Maybe JJ Abrams does know what he's doing...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 12:08
(http://www.tor.com/images/stories/blogs/15_04/star-wars-force-awakens-star-destroyer-crash.jpg)


Already iconic.
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Post by: Zebediah on 16 Apr 2015, 12:27
Watched the trailer with my 10-year-old son. We both cheered when Han and Chewbacca showed up.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Apr 2015, 12:29
(http://www.tor.com/images/stories/blogs/15_04/star-wars-force-awakens-star-destroyer-crash.jpg)


Already iconic.

Ah, I needed a new desktop background. :)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 12:32
That stupid ball droid is going to be annoying, but at least it's not CGI.

Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Apr 2015, 13:06
... I wanted to see Artoo shock it. Or at least try to push it off the stage.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Apr 2015, 14:05
The new Chewbacca looks weird
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 16 Apr 2015, 14:08
The new Chewbacca looks weird
(click to show/hide)
Nah someone obviously did a face swap with him and Han.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Zebediah on 16 Apr 2015, 14:11
My son pointed out something interesting from the trailer:

(http://www.legendariummedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Troopers2.png)

The symbol on that banner behind the stormtroopers is NOT the same symbol the Galactic Empire used in the original trilogy.

Speculation: This may be only one of several competing remnants of the original Empire. Which might explain why one TIE fighter was apparently shooting up a hanger bay full of other TIE fighters.



Also, word of JJ is that the planet with the crashed Star Destroyer isn't Tatooine. Of course, Abrams has been known to lie disseminate anti-spoiler misinformation before.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 16 Apr 2015, 14:19
The symbol on that banner behind the stormtroopers is NOT the same symbol the Galactic Empire used in the original trilogy.

Speculation: This may be only one of several competing remnants of the original Empire. Which might explain why one TIE fighter was apparently shooting up a hanger bay full of other TIE fighters.
My theory is a new regime and a new flag.  The wacked out tie fighter in the hanger is probably a rebel fucking things over for the empire.  They did something similar in Rebels, in fact it looks almost frame for frame close to the scene.  Wish I could post a video but Disney is very vigilante about pulling down that stuff.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 14:39
Also, word of JJ is that the planet with the crashed Star Destroyer isn't Tatooine. Of course, Abrams has been known to lie disseminate anti-spoiler misinformation before.

Yeah, but unlike the real identity of "John Harrison," there's no benefit to keeping Tatooine a secret.  It's just a location--one that's certainly played a prominent role over the previous two trilogies, but still just a location.  "We've been on Tatooine all along!" wouldn't be much of a surprise.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Apr 2015, 14:41
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/112591/2999374-8194131681-dont-.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Apr 2015, 14:47
I hope we don't see Tattooine in the new trilogy. It is the most over used planet in the entire mythos, at odds with it's supposed 'minor backwater planet on the Outer Rim'. If I were to guess on the rogue TIE Fighter, I would say it's John Boyega's character giving his resignation notice, before flying and  crashing on the desert planet.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 16 Apr 2015, 15:22
*Brain explodes*
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 16:06
According to io9 (http://io9.com/the-empire-has-a-whole-new-name-in-star-wars-episode-vi-1698337595), it's not the Empire vs. the Rebellion anymore.  Instead, it's the First Order vs. the Resistance.

Honestly, I'm not sure about this.  While it makes sense that the Empire wouldn't have lost complete control after the Battle of Endor, it still seems weird that the Rebels/Resistance would remain the underdogs for another 30-odd years.  Would be nice to see the New Republic active on some scale, occupying some part of the galaxy, something like that.  Maybe I'm just still in denial about the old Expanded Universe getting trashed. 

Of course, it's still too soon to tell, probably.  We'll get more details when the movie comes out.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 16 Apr 2015, 17:16
so BB-8 isnt all cgi?!
http://imgur.com/umSzUjp (http://imgur.com/umSzUjp)  :psyduck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzjUf3E_0c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABzjUf3E_0c)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Apr 2015, 17:30
I don't know.. I'm of two minds on it. Sure, it was set up in the original trilogy that the Empire was an oppressive regime and the Rebels were freedom fighters, and at least partly implied that they had the backing of at least some planetary governments. Star Wars Rebels does show that the Empire is not very popular among the populace and uses fear to keep the local systems in line. But with the Prequels and Clone Wars we saw that the old Republic was very fractured, corrupt and mired in bureaucracy, and that more than a few systems wanted nothing to do with the Senate's rule. The Senate came off more as the UN of space than a galactic governing body. Even drafting the Grand Army of the Republic was a huge thing in the face of the Separatist forces taking planets. The formation of the Galactic Empire was largely supported and praised as a good thing, which is exactly what Palatine wanted.

So it's pretty unlikely that the destruction of the second Death Star and deaths of the Emperor and Vader would have stopped the Empire. If there wasn't some succession plan in place, which is entirely likely, then either a new leader would have been elected/appointed by whoever had rank, or it would have split into various factions... Either way the Rebel Alliance would not have been any more popular to the Imperial Military, who probably would have continued to make the elimination of those terrorists job one. Thirty years would probably be enough to stabilize what remained of the Empire. But possibly not enough time for enough systems to have split off/escaped Imperial rule and formed a new Republic yet.

But as said, this is all pure speculation. We'll not know how it worked out until the end of the year.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 17 Apr 2015, 05:40
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 Apr 2015, 06:26
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/3965ca3877d826def3fd45eaa4b6a043/tumblr_nmys58L0HX1rck739o1_500.gif)
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/ab5d97b499df92d77c6a8515d2902ec2/tumblr_nmys58L0HX1rck739o2_500.gif)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 18 Apr 2015, 21:46
Watching/listening to the fan reactions from the SW Celebration panel was also pretty cool.  Wish I could've been there.

Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Active Madness on 18 Apr 2015, 22:32
I'm not sure what to think of the new Stormtrooper outfits, they seem a bit goofy. Kinda like they've all got the :3 emoticon going on.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Thrillho on 19 Apr 2015, 00:21
Well, they're goofs.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 19 Apr 2015, 15:17
And to top it all off ............


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivv51UmwTrw
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 19 Apr 2015, 15:34
Um, wasn't the first Death Star only 100 miles in diameter or something?  That looks so close it's practically scraping the upper atmosphere.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: SubaruStephen on 19 Apr 2015, 16:00
Watching/listening to the fan reactions from the SW Celebration panel was also pretty cool.  Wish I could've been there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUGCGObBQ-g

I love how they turned on the light sabers at the end. :-D :-D it would've been beyond awesome if everyone in there had one to activate.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 19 Apr 2015, 16:42
Um, wasn't the first Death Star only 100 miles in diameter or something?  That looks so close it's practically scraping the upper atmosphere.

They're using unused Stock Footage there from the Endor Moon.

Filming for Rouge One starts shortly, so they don't have any actual footage from the film yet.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: SubaruStephen on 20 Apr 2015, 17:12
And to top it all off ............


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivv51UmwTrw

"Blocked on copyright grounds" :x :x :x
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 20 Apr 2015, 20:33
@*^%%$&$#### Disney.

Try this one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_c2n9e3cYg
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Edguy on 20 Apr 2015, 21:21
All I see is some forest.. what are people cheering at?! What am I missing?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Torlek on 20 Apr 2015, 21:56
Look closely at the sky. That's no moon.....
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: SubaruStephen on 21 Apr 2015, 04:29
@*^%%$&$#### Disney.

Try this one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_c2n9e3cYg

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/8Mr1uBnGBjJvi/200_s.gif)

"Blocked on copyright grounds" :x :x :x :x :x
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 21 Apr 2015, 16:42
In that case


FUCK DISNEY!!!!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 27 Apr 2015, 22:07
Some thoughts I had while watching the trailer for the umpteenth time:

1. According to the news that came out of the Star Wars Celebration panels, the desert planet, Jakku, is the sight of an old battle between the Empire and the Rebels/New Republic, and is littered with wrecked ships as a result.
2. Daisy Ridley's character is a scavenger on Jakku.
3. The two clips we see of the Millennium Falcon in the original teaser and the official trailer also show it on Jakku, engaged  in a dogfight with TIE fighters and fleeing from a single fighter, respectively.
4. The official trailer also shows Daisy and John Boyega's characters running from a TIE fighter attack.
5. The clip of the Falcon shows it flying into the massive engines of a crashed ship--something a pilot, even one as daring as Han Solo, wouldn't be reckless enough to do (especially with a ship the size of the Falcon) unless he was familiar enough with the lay of the land--as Daisy is.
6. The two interior shots of the Falcon show BB-8 peeking around a door and, later, Han commenting to Chewbacca that they're "home."

So it's probably safe to assume that the Falcon was damaged in the Battle of Jakku and abandoned, and was later found by Daisy's character, who managed to fix it up and get it in working condition (as much as can be expected) by the time John Boyega's character comes along and they're forced to flee from the Imperial forces that are chasing after him--meaning Han and Chewie don't step foot on the ship until much later in the movie.

That's probably been obvious to everyone else from the beginning, but hey, I thought it was a cool idea.  I bet I'm right, too.  And how great would it be to see Daisy's character scrounging for parts on Jakku, then walking into a makeshift spaceship hanger where an aged and battered, but still beautiful, Millennium Falcon is sitting there waiting for action?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Apr 2015, 06:37
I've seen a supposed leaked plot synopsis on the internets. I put as much faith in it as I would... well a leak of a major movie's script. But according to that, your guesses wouldn't be far off. And as skeptical as I am about 'leaked scripts', I have to say that the story sounded good and fits what we know.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 28 Apr 2015, 06:40
Honestly, what with the way trailers now-a-days give everything away, I am satisfied only seeing this 2nd teaser trailer and going into the movie blind.  I may have to avoid this thread until I see the movie.  :-\

also for funsies

(http://i.imgur.com/3ZiDbah.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2015, 07:18
Happy Star Wars Day.

(http://i.imgur.com/leB8o1v.jpg)

May the 4th be with you.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 04 May 2015, 15:24
May the Fourth be with you  :-D
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 04 May 2015, 15:46
May the 4th be with us, always.

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1237593007027498087.jpg)

More at Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/05/star-wars-force-awakens-photos).

Just one question:

WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY MAKE LUPITA NYONG'O'S CHARACTER CG?!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 04 May 2015, 16:11
Also, that's Gwendoline Christie playing the chrome stormtrooper Captain Phasma (http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/2015/05/gwendoline-christie-star-wars).

(http://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/05/01/5543ca9fdb753b82389cbdf8_vanity-fair-star-wars-05.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 04 May 2015, 16:37
Now I'm starting to get worried.  Everything about The Force Awakens looks and sounds amazing so far.  It's almost too good.  So that means something is going to go terribly wrong.

Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2015, 18:58
Vanity Fair pictures. This was my favorite.
(http://cnet2.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/05/04/2d43a86f-11a1-434c-b351-f0e63edd5eac/resize/770x578/97ba08852c9b515620dec43a918f0f44/kyo.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: mustang6172 on 04 May 2015, 19:35
May the Fourth be with you  :-D

And also with you.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 04 May 2015, 20:00
I dunno, Adam Driver's face doesn't look like it belongs in Star Wars.

Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2015, 20:07
He's such a creeper, I don't get why my fiance finds him so hot

May the Fourth be with you  :-D

And also with you.

Lift up your lightsabers. We lift them up to the lord. Let us give thanks to the Force our guide.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 04 May 2015, 20:11
Lift up your lightsabers. We lift them up to the force. Let us give thanks to the Force our guide.
fixed
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 May 2015, 20:41
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 04 May 2015, 22:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Blue Kitty on 27 May 2015, 03:34
(http://36.media.tumblr.com/0c8e3f59a28af1ce23b3bf04eae0ba43/tumblr_no9pb3WqAh1txqqiio1_1280.jpg)
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Post by: Kugai on 29 May 2015, 16:48
Then the Emperor has already won.
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Post by: jwhouk on 29 May 2015, 18:09
"...But why round ears is he wearing?"
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jul 2015, 23:05

OK, it's been confirmed that Hong Kong Martial Arts Star Donnie Yen is to play a Martial Arts Jedi Master in the next film after this.

And in case you don't know who that ts, here's a little Vid of him in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1Cb2d0ZUVs
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 08 Jul 2015, 06:38
Not sure how legit this is but sticking it here anyways.
(http://i.imgur.com/XJKJ5wR.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Jul 2015, 16:13
"Gosh, ain't it great that we bought Lucasfilm and can start making Star Wars movies?  An entire galaxy full of stories!  Let's just do a bunch of prequels about the same old characters, though.  No sense in trying anything new."
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 Jul 2015, 01:09
Aside from the entire new trilogy that has the old guard in it as a handover.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Pilchard123 on 09 Jul 2015, 10:00
Fett/Solo? The fanfic writers are going to have a field day...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 09 Jul 2015, 16:29
If they haven't been already
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Jul 2015, 17:03
Aside from the entire new trilogy that has the old guard in it as a handover.

Yeah, but the "Anthology" films are a chance to break away from the old guard and the galaxy as we know it, and tell some new stories.  Instead we're going to be treated to "How did the Rebels get the Death Star plans?" "What was Obi-Wan Kenobi up to between the trilogies?" and the ever-popular "OMG, let's do a Han Solo origin story!  Origin stories are cool!"
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Post by: Kugai on 09 Jul 2015, 17:06
You expect originality out of Wholeywierd these days??!
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Jul 2015, 21:13
Yes, though naively, I suppose. A fan can dream!
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Post by: LeeC on 11 Jul 2015, 21:40
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Torlek on 12 Jul 2015, 00:13
The sheer reverence that seems to be going into this movie is kind of astounding.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Kugai on 12 Jul 2015, 15:33
I'm just hoping that this time round the right person is in charge of the films
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Jul 2015, 19:21
The sheer reverence that seems to be going into this movie is kind of astounding.

It gives me hope that it will actually be good.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Jul 2015, 23:07
The sheer reverence that seems to be going into this movie is kind of astounding.
It gives me hope that it will actually be good.

...A New Hope?
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Jul 2015, 20:42
I'm starting to worry about character overload.  Aside from the Old Guard (Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Threepio, Artoo, etc.), we have the three new heroes (Finn, Rey, Poe), two or three new villains (Kylo Ren, Captain Phasma, General Hux?) and several other characters played by prominent actors (Andy Serkis, Max von Sidow, LUPITA NYONG'O IN GODDAMN MO-CAP)...and this is just for the first movie.  Remember how the Holy Trilogy kept things fairly small at first?  Jabba and the Emperor didn't even appear in person until Jedi, but they had presence throughout all three films.  (We won't discuss the Special Editions)  Here, it feels like they're throwing everything they got at the first movie...unless there are MORE characters in the background to be introduced in Eps 8 and 9...
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: BenRG on 14 Jul 2015, 22:48
I'd want to minimise the role of the original characters to the 'mentor/expositor' role that Obi-Wan had in A New Hope. I understand Abrams' decision to have a hand-over but, as he ably demonstrated in his first Star Trek, it can easily turn into a hijack and undermine the new characters.

Yes, I'm already starting to worry that he's screwed this up, possibly beyond repair.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: LeeC on 15 Jul 2015, 04:18
My guess is this is the passing of the torch movie.  The Old Guard may just be around for a little bit, as commander/mentor roles.  The new heroes/villains will be the ones actually doing stuff.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Jul 2015, 06:43
If leaks are to be believed, Han and Chewie are going to be pretty involved in the mid to late movie. Leia only in the beginning and Luke is in seclusion until probably the third act. I'm not sure what role Andy Serkis is playing. Max von Sidow is playing the leader of the planet where most of the action takes place and adoptive father of Ren, so he will probably play an important but not very large role. While these are leaked plot points and about as reliable as finding ice on Tatooine, they do match up pretty close with facts we do know about the movie. So I'm willing to say they at least guessed a lot of the larger plot points pretty accurately.

So really it looks like all of these large name people (both in terms of their characters and their status as actors) are mostly there to pad out the 'aged mentor' role. Basically there's going to be a half dozen 'Obi-wan' type characters in this film. Which is really to many.. but they wanted to establish their bonafides by including everyone from the original trilogy.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Jul 2015, 16:32
but they wanted to establish their bonafides by including everyone from the original trilogy.

Except for Lando.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Jul 2015, 17:28
Okay, let me rephrase, the core cast that appeared in episodes 4-6. Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, R2 and C3-PO. And Vader is there, kinda.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: SubaruStephen on 15 Jul 2015, 17:28
He didn't show up untill the second movie, he'll probably in the next two.
Title: Re: Star Wars 7 coming in 2015
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Aug 2015, 16:52
Entertainment Weekly has a new article (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/12/star-wars-luke-skywalker-hooked-jj-abrams) and photo gallery (http://www.ew.com/gallery/star-wars-force-awakens-first-look-gallery) full of exciting tidbits.  There's also a new trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-VTdsCKLgg) from Korea with a very lovely shot:

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1381916232729278056.jpg)

Oooh yeah, that's the stuff.
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Post by: Thrillho on 19 Aug 2015, 03:29
So my lass and I watched the prequels trilogy over the last few days, because why the fuck not? And I have to say... they're a lot better than I remember. Mostly.

The dialogue is still flat as fuck, but you can't really beat Star Wars for special effects extravaganzas.

Episode I is riddled with iconic shots and moments like the pod race and Darth Maul. Jake Lloyd is still terrible, but given that fame seems to have ruined his life, I don't want to be too harsh. An a duel lightsaber is still fucking awesome.

Attack Of The Clones is by far the worst film of the six. Nothing happens. For like two hours. By the time something does happen, you don't give a fuck.

But Revenge Of The Sith... is great. Like, fantastic. Acting is still iffy, but miles above what it was. It even has one or two good lines of dialogue ('So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.') It's dark, Anakin really does bring the noise (murdering kids! One kid gets killed by the clone army ONSCREEN!), Palpatine's transformation is something else... I just can't believe how good it was, and much better pacing than Clones too. Genuinely a really great surprise.
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Post by: Masterpiece on 10 Sep 2015, 23:03
Honestly the worst part about RotS is, again, the Anakin-Padme relationship. Why are these two people together? The only thing he does is whine.
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Post by: BenRG on 10 Sep 2015, 23:25
Honestly the worst part about RotS is, again, the Anakin-Padme relationship. Why are these two people together? The only thing he does is whine.

I get the impression that was partly Lucas's lost ability to write a romantic subplot. The rest of it was Hayden Christiensen's lack of acting ability. Another thing that the Prequel Trilogy taught us about the George Lucas of today is that he is not very good at casting decisions.
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Post by: LeeC on 11 Sep 2015, 05:04
The rest of it was Hayden Christiensen's lack of acting ability. Another thing that the Prequel Trilogy taught us about the George Lucas of today is that he is not very good at casting decisions.
I disagree. If you look at some of the behind the scenes things GL is the reason Hayden came off woody as he told him exactly how to say it without context.  He's a terrible director when he is the sole decision maker. He's a tell the audience how the actor feels instead of let emotion and acting take over.  The script was unsalvageable by any actor, including Ewan Mcgregor (I saw him killing younglings!  Only a sith deals in absolutes!).  I completely put the blame on GL.

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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2015, 05:04
I'll go back and read the whole thread later, but I definitely agree about the prequels, Thrillhouse. I actually rate 3 slightly above six.

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Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2015, 14:22
My major thought on the Prequels Trilogy?


"Why the FUCK is he trying to screw over his legacy??!"
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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2015, 14:34
I mean he kind of started that with the Ewoks.
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Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2015, 19:54
But they were somewhat tolerable.

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Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Sep 2015, 21:58
Because they were in part of one movie, and only really in half of that. Unlike the Gungans who were in huge parts of one movie, and the most annoying example of their species stuck around for the other two. Plus the bad acting, bad casting, bad script, bad direction. Still between the choice of a bad prequel trilogy and no prequel trilogy. I'm glad we have it.
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Post by: Torlek on 19 Oct 2015, 19:23
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Oct 2015, 19:40
I don't know why, I'm just not that excited about it. I'll see it, and I'm sure it'll be great, but...eh, I dunno.
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Post by: Kugai on 19 Oct 2015, 19:58
Beaten to the punch

Still, looks interesting enough.
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Post by: Gladstone on 19 Oct 2015, 20:03
I don't know why, I'm just not that excited about it. I'll see it, and I'm sure it'll be great, but...eh, I dunno.

I'm excited about it, but for some reason that trailer doesn't do much for me.  It's nice, of course, and it's great to see more of the movie (except for Leia--she gets barely any screen time--and where the hell is Luke?), but I don't feel the rush of excitement I got from the earlier trailers and behind-the-scenes stuff.  Plus, I'm starting to worry about how much JJ Abrams managed to fuck it up...
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Oct 2015, 20:08
Can he fuck it up worse than George did?
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Post by: Gladstone on 19 Oct 2015, 20:14
Possibly, but I doubt it.  He'd have to try really, really hard.
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Post by: hedgie on 19 Oct 2015, 21:06
Can he fuck it up worse than George did?

Do NOT tempt the Fates, please.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 19 Oct 2015, 21:10
Can he fuck it up worse than George did?

Lightsaber lens flare for days....
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Post by: BenRG on 20 Oct 2015, 00:05
Well... If Abrams is trying to make Luke's appearance in the movie a surprise, he's two trailers and several press conferences too late although I suppose it's possible that the character is being killed off for a cheap 'Wham!' scene.

P.S.: Yes, I am worried enough by that thought that it preoccupies me right now.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 Oct 2015, 04:21
The wife and I tried ordering tickets but the service was so jammed up we couldn't
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Post by: LeeC on 20 Oct 2015, 05:31
Rogue One!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/p8YGHIQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GxskLGZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9TVrMdL.jpg)

and more
http://imgur.com/gallery/A7JeQ (http://imgur.com/gallery/A7JeQ)
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Oct 2015, 06:12
I was really kind of hoping to see an alien in a starring role, and kind of figured an ensemble cast like for Rogue One was the best shot at it. The cartoons are pretty good at it, because it's easier. The original trilogy had Chewbacca, but he was more background material and sidekick because he couldn't speak Basic. Even Threepio had solo screen time briefly. I mean I'm not expecting someone like a Rodian or other out there race that would be hard to emote in costume. But there are plenty of 'human with odd skin color' races out there they could have tapped from. And when you consider how human-supremist the Empire is, you would think a fair number of races would sign up for the Rebellion.
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Post by: LeeC on 20 Oct 2015, 06:40
Trailer for SW7 gives nothing away
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 20 Oct 2015, 16:02
Stupid racist idiots make #BoycottStarWarsVII becase of the casting of John Boyega as Finn. Conveniently forgetting that James Earl Jones voiced Darth Vader, or that Jango Fett / the entire original clone army were Maori  :facepalm:

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/20/twitter-trolls-boycott-star-wars-black-character-force-awakens-john-boyega?CMP=soc_567 (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/20/twitter-trolls-boycott-star-wars-black-character-force-awakens-john-boyega?CMP=soc_567)
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 Oct 2015, 16:27
Well it is stupidity in action. They are basically freaking the heck out because one main character is not white. ONE. This to them is 'racial genocide' and 'ruining the franchise to cater to the minority liberal agenda that's destroying America.' For a single main character who isn't white. It would be sad if it wasn't so laughably stupid. I just couldn't imagine going though life with that much fear and hate.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Oct 2015, 19:17
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12107847_455402831299458_286844619105600090_n.jpg?oh=911ba64cb9914fabed3aeb9e628aa37d&oe=56CAC9C0)

Hehehe
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Oct 2015, 08:40
A lot of people are upset that they didn't clearly see Luke in the trailer.  What were they blind?

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Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2015, 09:29
I'm still holding out hope for a one-armed Mace Windu in Episode VIII.
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Post by: Kugai on 28 Oct 2015, 12:30
The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling there's some form of Plot Twist in store with regards to Luke coming in the movie. 

Think about it, they seem to be going out of their way to at least minimise his appearance in the Trailers, and you do that for two reasons

1) To heighten the interest in the film

or

2) There's a major twist coming with the character.


He's been somewhat seen and heard in one or two of the trailers, but in general, they've gone out of their way to minimse or even not show him in the trailers which leads me to believe they have some kind of ''Holy Shit!" moment in store.
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Post by: LeeC on 28 Oct 2015, 12:37
The more I think about it, the more I get the feeling there's some form of Plot Twist in store with regards to Luke coming in the movie.
He'll be like old Spock from the Star Trek reboot.
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Post by: Gladstone on 28 Oct 2015, 16:03
Luke isn't the only one missing from the trailers, but nobody has bothered to ask where C-3PO is yet.  Sure, it's probably just because of a new design feature which Lucasfilm is using so they can justify selling another variation of Threepio's "action" figure that they don't want to "spoil," but could it be something more sinister?  What if C-3PO killed Luke, skinned him, is wearing his flesh as a disguise, and is ALSO SECRETLY KYLO REN????  Bet none of you are expecting that shocker.  JJ Abrams is a genius, I tell ya.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Oct 2015, 16:51
No, that would be if M. Night Shamalan wrote and directed the movie...
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Post by: Kugai on 29 Oct 2015, 13:03
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 29 Oct 2015, 14:31
Yessssss
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Post by: Case on 05 Nov 2015, 14:53
A lot of people are upset that they didn't clearly see Luke in the trailer.  What were they blind?
...

Yeah, I guess there's just boatloads of guys with cybernetic right hands fondling ancient R2-units in the new Universe? Makes perfect sense ... Now, where the frak is LUKE?
(I'm not sure about Hamil's voice (German dubbing) but in another trailer, you heard the 'The Force is strong in my Family ...' - speech. Was that Hamil?)

Sorry for the angsting, I'm just re-reading the better part of the EU: Did anyone watchAbrahams' 2nd Star Trek? Was it less horrible than the first? Because methinks that Abrahams thinks he's come up with a genius plot-twist for Luke, but that it will be about as interesting and elegant as flushing Scotty through the humongous, transparent bowels of the Enterprise because ... flushing people through a starships humongous transparent plumbing is such a great plot device you have to spend a whole minute on the scene.

I'm fretting between "Maybe he'll get it right, if only by accident?" and "He'll make a very handsome 'New Hope-Ghoul' out of it, like he did with Star Trek".

If the trailer shows anything, it's that somehow, the whole Galaxy got collective Amnesia post-Endor and the entire Empire vs. Rebels conflict seems to have been forgotten ('It's true! All of it'). Yeah ... forgetting an intergalactic War plus Empire ... happens all the time, right?

Or maybe peeps just forgot about the Jedi? A second Jedi-purge? No Jedi-Leia?
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 05 Nov 2015, 16:13
Well by the time A New Hope came around a lot of people thought that Jedi were near mythical features. There were never a lot of them in the first place, so chances are the majority of people never met one in their lives. During the clone was they heard about the Jedi generals leading the clone trooper army. But that's a distant thing. Then Palatine took over and engaged in an anti-Jedi smear campaign. Even the people who had met and knew Jedi in person, like Tarkin, considered Vader to be the last of them.

Fast forward another 30 years, and we have the New Order pretending the Emperor is not dead and still promoting the Rebel Alliance as terrorist agitators. It doesn't look like Luke has tried to rebuild the Jedi order. He might not even have tried to train another. We don't know that yet. So we are talking about two generation of humans that have been around post order 66 and Palatine creating the Empire. All of which it seems that Jedi are thought of as dead. It's not surprising that their already frankly fantastical stories have been elevated to the levels of crazy myths that nobody really believes are true. And they certainly didn't forget the war between the Empire and the Rebels. Jakku apparently exists because it was the site of a massive battle between them.
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Post by: LeeC on 06 Nov 2015, 07:08
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Post by: Akima on 10 Nov 2015, 00:55
Stupid racist idiots make #BoycottStarWarsVII becase of the casting of John Boyega as Finn. Conveniently forgetting that James Earl Jones voiced Darth Vader, or that Jango Fett / the entire original clone army were Maori  :facepalm:
And not to forget Billy Dee Williams in TESB and TRotJ. But racist arseholes are arseholes.
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 10 Nov 2015, 13:01
How the hell did I forget about Billy Dee? :psyduck:
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Nov 2015, 14:06
Not to mention
(http://theartmad.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Mace-Windu-3.jpg)
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 10 Nov 2015, 14:15
"I'm sick of all these motherfucking Sith on this motherfucking galactic senate!"
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Nov 2015, 14:33
"I want you to go in that bag, and find my lightsaber."
"Which one is it?"
"It's the one that says Bad Motherfucker."
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Nov 2015, 15:05
"Also, my hand is still holding it."
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Post by: Gladstone on 17 Nov 2015, 16:23
Oh hey, look what somebody loaded to Youtube.

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Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Nov 2015, 16:52
I've seen it once. NEVER AGAIN.
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Post by: Kugai on 17 Nov 2015, 21:16
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Post by: J on 01 Dec 2015, 09:07
what could have been:

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Post by: hedgie on 01 Dec 2015, 13:17
I would *love* to see that version.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 Dec 2015, 14:39
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/zkslka60rqw9jwwg4l13.gif)
Gwendoline Christie in a Star Wars dress holding a blaster is an early Christmas gift to us all (http://io9.com/gwendoline-christie-in-a-star-wars-dress-holding-a-blas-1745382758?trending_test_two_a&utm_expid=66866090-68.hhyw_lmCRuCTCg0I2RHHtw.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F)
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Post by: J on 02 Dec 2015, 01:49
I would *love* to see that version.

it reminded me of this old short story from some years back (http://media.rawvoice.com/escapepod/media.libsyn.com/media/escapepod/EP105_ImpossibleDreams.mp3)
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Post by: J on 03 Dec 2015, 00:09
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Post by: BenRG on 03 Dec 2015, 02:02
Of all the Original Trilogy cast, Ford has always been the most cynical and dry-eyed (with the exception of the late Sir Alec Guinness who made no secret of not getting the fan furore at all).
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Post by: Kugai on 03 Dec 2015, 12:43
Harrison's the Grumpy Old Man of Star Wars these days
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Post by: Gladstone on 14 Dec 2015, 20:10
So. The Force Awakens. Three days away.  Any guesses about how Abrams is going to fuck it up?

Mine are:
1. Daisy Ridley strips down to space-bra and -panties within ten minutes of being introduced ("Oh my, my wrappings are full of sand, I need to take whatever the equivalent of a shower is on this desert planet!") because J.J. thinks that appealing to horny nerds is more important than giving a lead female character a compelling storyline. See also Star Trek, Star Trek INTO DARKNESS, whatever else he's made that I haven't bothered to see.
2. See #1. I could just start and end my list with that. Seriously, I have a bad feeling about this.
3. Character overload. The old crew (minus Lando), plus three new heroes, plus three new villains, plus Lupita's character, plus Benedict Cumberbatch's surprise cameo as John Harrison. Maybe the cast is too big? Can they really juggle all those characters in a satisfactory way? Couldn't they at least save Andy Serkis's character for the next one or something?
4. Starkiller Base is a stupid MacGuffin. I've read a few rumors. It sounds dumb.
5. Lens FLAAAAAAAARE. Seriously, I don't mind a well-placed bit of lens flare if it adds to the shot and is used sparingly, but we know J.J. doesn't do that.
6.  The decision to make Lupita Nyong'o play a GODDAMN CGI CHARACTER places a curse on this and all future films in the franchise.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Dec 2015, 20:24
I'm still holding out hope for Mace Windu to show up in Episode VIII.
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Post by: Gladstone on 14 Dec 2015, 21:18
Nope, he's dead.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2015, 04:19
Probably, it takes place what, forty or fifty years after his last appearance.

Unless you mean he died in Episode III, which is ridiculous.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2015, 19:44
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Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Dec 2015, 04:48
*grooooaaaaannnn*, Method.
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Post by: BenRG on 16 Dec 2015, 05:31
FWIW, early responses are good. Average rating I've seen is about 4.75/5.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Dec 2015, 09:36
Begun, the Spoiler Wars have.
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Post by: Edguy on 16 Dec 2015, 10:49
Reviews are in:

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-wars-episode-vii---the-force-awakens

81/100, that's pretty damn good!
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Post by: LeeC on 16 Dec 2015, 11:02
Saw a spoiler today.  :x  Someone posted Star Wars fan art wallpaper on imgur and halfway down they put in the spoiler along with the corresponding movie still confirming it...
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Dec 2015, 14:42
I'm not going to get to see it until Saturday. I probably won't be online for a few days.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Dec 2015, 16:14
I keep seeing online people promising not to post spoilers for some small amount of time (three days to a week), as though it were totally reasonable to ever post them! :psyduck:
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Post by: hedgie on 16 Dec 2015, 16:51
There ought to be a statute of limitations on spoilers.  FFS, Soylent Green is people.  And Rosebud was a sled.  Or when it comes to Star Wars stuff, Vader is Luke's father.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Dec 2015, 16:59
Those are extreme examples and you know it. As for the statute of limitations, how about just don't spoil something intentionally just because you can? Basically just don't be a dick about it.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Dec 2015, 17:13
Spoiler Alert! Vader is Luke's father!
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Post by: BenRG on 17 Dec 2015, 06:25
Rottentomatoes.com (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_episode_vii_the_force_awakens/) is currently giving The Force Awakens a critics' rating of 95% and audience rating of 92%. These are excellent figures and augur well for the relaunch of the franchise on the big screen.

I've only seen one substantive spoiler so far and, quite frankly, it is something that was so common currency in fan speculation that I can't honestly say it surprised or even slightly annoyed me.
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Post by: Gladstone on 17 Dec 2015, 19:44
Just got back from seeing it.  I can't believe Kylo Ren was actually Khan!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Dec 2015, 20:06
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

(Just got back from it myself, holy shit, that was so good)
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Post by: Gladstone on 17 Dec 2015, 20:28
Loved the characters (old and especially new), and the story was mostly good (hit the right nostalgia notes, but felt a bit off in places), but my biggest problem was the scale.  Something didn't feel right...

SPOILERS!

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Post by: 94ssd on 17 Dec 2015, 23:16
Non-spoiler thoughts: As an entertainment experience, 10/10, no question. Hardly a dull second the entire film. Effects were great, pacing was great, the score was amazing (obviously), and I almost audibly sequeled during the first few seconds. J.J. Abrams did more than just not screw it up, he brought the series back to Prequel-levels of quality and polish.

As an artistic/storytelling experience, more like a 7.5, maybe an 8. The performances were, for the most part, great. I do have some minor quips about plot, but I can't go into them because of spoilers and I don't want to cause anyone to die from geek overexposure by mentioning the expanded universe.

The point though, is that is an absolute must see, and I am filled with nerd-excitement right now.
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Post by: RedWolf4 on 18 Dec 2015, 05:51
This is all I have to say for now.

IT WAS GOOD!!! IT WAS FREAKING GOOD!!! LORD ALMIGHTY IT WAS FREAKING GOOD!!!
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Post by: Edguy on 18 Dec 2015, 07:22
..he brought the series back to Prequel-levels of quality and polish.

Ouch.
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Post by: 94ssd on 18 Dec 2015, 19:15
..he brought the series back to Prequel-levels of quality and polish.

Ouch.

I meant original-series level of quality. Don't write movie reviews at 2 AM after a 12 hour day at work, kids.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Dec 2015, 11:30
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Post by: BenRG on 19 Dec 2015, 12:24
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Dec 2015, 12:35
Man, that's some KotOR shit. I approve. Especially since Kylo Ren's mask reminded me of Revan.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Dec 2015, 19:38
Just got back, it was so good.  I love how great all the new characters are, especially Poe and BB8.

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Post by: Gladstone on 19 Dec 2015, 21:03
I thought they did a great job with BB-8.  I was worried from the trailers that the roly-poly look with the exaggerated astromech features (aww, lookit that big round eye! He's like a puppy!) would make him the next Jar-Jar, but they added just the right amount of comedy to his performance to make him a fun character. 
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Post by: de_la_Nae on 20 Dec 2015, 01:07
Very interesting, reading this thread after watching the movie.

Now I stayed away from everything to do with this shit, because I'm that sort of person. Also interesting seeing the trailers for the first time.

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But seriously Snoke is Triclops.
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Post by: BenRG on 20 Dec 2015, 01:23
@de_la_Nae,
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Meanwhile, a fan essay, written in a slightly eccentric in-universe style: Always Three There Are (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11676747/1/). It addresses the recurring narrative themes of the main characters in the three trilogies and their interactions (warning, The Force Awakens spoilers within!). It made me nod my head thoughtfully at its insight on the subject.
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Post by: 94ssd on 20 Dec 2015, 07:20
So I decided to marathon the movies with the intention of going to see Force Awakens again tonight. Against the advice of wiser people, I used the 1-6 order.

Seeing the opening text crawls in succession made me realize we should have seen the misery the prequels would visit on us coming from just the first two sentences of each one.

IV: "It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire."

V: "It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy."

VI: "Luke Skywalker has returned to his home planet of Tatooine in an attempt to rescue his friend Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt."

That's exciting, right. I wonder what the prequels are about...

I: "Turmoil has engulfed the Galactic Republic. The taxation of trade routes to outlying star systems is in dispute."

II: "There is unrest in the Galactic Senate. Several thousand solar systems have declared their intentions to leave the Republic. "

Oh...so, politics.

III: "War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere."

Well that's a little better. Although who are the 'heroes' on the CIS side, which is comprised almost entirely of droids? Dooku? Grievous? That one droid who gave a one-liner that made the audience chuckle lightly?
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Post by: 94ssd on 20 Dec 2015, 07:32
SPOILERS!

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Post by: Gladstone on 20 Dec 2015, 17:58
Big ol' spoiler

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Also, I know it's way early, but I had some questions about Episode VIII:
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Post by: jwhouk on 20 Dec 2015, 20:16
17 out of the last 20 posts - all have spoilers.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Dec 2015, 20:29
Well...yeah. The movie's out, why wouldn't we talk about it?
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Post by: de_la_Nae on 20 Dec 2015, 21:03
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 21 Dec 2015, 11:17
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I'm sure I remember that some heightened level of force-sensitivity is necessary to not decapitate yourself with a lightsaber.
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Post by: LeeC on 21 Dec 2015, 11:19
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I'm sure I remember that some heightened level of force-sensitivity is necessary to not decapitate yourself with a lightsaber.
Nah, nothing in cannon says that.  Shoot technically speaking Han used one in tESB
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Post by: BenRG on 21 Dec 2015, 11:30
The general consensus seems to be that the lightsaber is difficult to use, but far from impossible, even for non Force-sensitives. The only issue is the lack of weight and drag from the blade but that's something that you can learn your way around. Additionally, the blade energy can be varied, so training with it on 'stun/practice' setting until you learn not to cut off your own head is an obvious step to take.

I'd imagine that only total expert non Force-sensitives would be able to do the difficult tricks like parrying energy weapon discharges with a lightsaber but the basic hack-and-slash would be quite possible.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Dec 2015, 14:40
Finn was able to pick up and use a light saber without any prior training with it though, using it in two fights. Not successfully mind you, but without losing any limbs in the process. There was also the Look that Kylo Ren shot him in the very first scene. I'm not sure if it was to signify that he noticed Finn didn't shoot, that he sensed Finn's revulsion, or he picked up a glimmer of force sensitivity.

The question that is on my mind is 'Who is Rey anyway?'.  Clearly she was left behind deliberately and believed someone was coming back for her. Early speculation was that she was also Han and Leia's child, but they never mentioned it. She could be Luke's child, but no mention of him ever having one was made. And why would he abandon his child? Possibly it is but he's not aware of her existence? A one night stand produced an unknown Skywalker heir, who abandoned her child on Jakku? Sold into slavery? Or is she just a random person who's very strong in the Force? If so, why make her parent's identity a mystery? And make her so desperate to stay on Jakku until they return? She'll just be a big question mark until Episode 8...
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Post by: BenRG on 21 Dec 2015, 14:59
Finn was able to pick up and use a light saber without any prior training with it though, using it in two fights. Not successfully mind you, but without losing any limbs in the process.

Finn is a fully-trained infantryman. It is quite possible that he had training in use of close-quarters combat weapons. Although it is highly unlikely he learned how to use a lightsaber, the near-equivalent vibro-sword might have been included in his training.
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The question that is on my mind is 'Who is Rey anyway?'.

I'm pretty sure that this is going to be the Wham! reveal of Episode VIII.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Dec 2015, 15:01
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I'm sure I remember that some heightened level of force-sensitivity is necessary to not decapitate yourself with a lightsaber.
Nah, nothing in cannon says that.  Shoot technically speaking Han used one in tESB
Wait, you're saying Han's not force sensitive? Even if they never outright say he is, it's silly to assume he's not.
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Post by: Gladstone on 21 Dec 2015, 15:03
Are we done with spoiler tags?  I'm gonna still use them, just to be safe. 
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Post by: LeeC on 21 Dec 2015, 15:03
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Post by: Edguy on 21 Dec 2015, 15:12
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Post by: Tova on 21 Dec 2015, 15:54
I have a different theory regarding Rey's parents.

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On a different topic, I bought the soundtrack as soon as it was available. John Williams never disappoints. Favourite tracks so far: Rey's Theme, Snoke, Scherzo for X-Wings (love that last title).
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Post by: Gladstone on 21 Dec 2015, 16:19
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Post by: Tova on 21 Dec 2015, 16:29
We know now why Darth Vader was constantly practicing his force choke skills.  8-)
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 21 Dec 2015, 19:41
The least important spoiler you'll read (http://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-least-important-star-wars-the-force-awaken-1749033194)
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Post by: Gladstone on 21 Dec 2015, 19:55
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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Dec 2015, 20:07
Are we done with spoiler tags?  I'm gonna still use them, just to be safe.
Why would we ever stop?

Edit: Also this:
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Post by: Gladstone on 21 Dec 2015, 20:17
That'll have to do until we get a thumbs-up gif.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Dec 2015, 20:24
Honestly when I see it again it'll probably be for BB-8 more than anything else.
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Post by: hazlett on 21 Dec 2015, 20:49
I haven't watch yet but I heard lots of good reviews.
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Post by: TRVA123 on 22 Dec 2015, 04:58
I had a dream last night where Kylo Ren was trans!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Dec 2015, 06:56
We don't know that he's not!
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 22 Dec 2015, 11:51
Headcanon accepted :D

I'm still holding out on a Poe/Finn romance for Episode VIII
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Post by: Tova on 22 Dec 2015, 12:49
You're all so, so romantic.
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Post by: Kugai on 22 Dec 2015, 14:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qYbVQu7YAQ
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Dec 2015, 15:13
Did you watch the Vid to the end?
Ah, caught it.
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Post by: Gladstone on 22 Dec 2015, 15:44
I'm still holding out on a Poe/Finn romance for Episode VIII

You, and just about everyone else on AO3.  Sadly, everyone's calling them StormPilot instead of Puffin, but I guess you can't have everything.

But c'mon, they practically set it up at the end of TFA. 
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Post by: TRVA123 on 22 Dec 2015, 16:08
gah, where is that damn "like" button!
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Post by: Kugai on 22 Dec 2015, 18:20
Did you watch the Vid to the end?
Ah, caught it.


 ;D
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Post by: Edguy on 22 Dec 2015, 20:19
Did I stubmle into tumblr?  :psyduck:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Dec 2015, 20:22
@Edguy - You tumbled into it :claireface:

So I keep calling the movie The Force Unleashed. Anyone else?
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Dec 2015, 20:50
Wrong Starkiller.  :laugh:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Dec 2015, 21:08
Haha even before I saw it and saw "Starkiller" was in it, but yeah, especially after.
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Post by: hedgie on 22 Dec 2015, 21:26
Sadly, I have been corrupted to the point where every time I see the term "star killer", I think of Sheridan.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 23 Dec 2015, 00:39
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That's not a ship, that's a space station very naughty boy Roeinn boat!
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Post by: BenRG on 23 Dec 2015, 01:18
Wrong Starkiller.  :laugh:

Sadly, I have been corrupted to the point where every time I see the term "star killer", I think of Sheridan.

Interesting Wars trivia: In George Lucas's first treatments of the concept, the story was called: "The Chronicle of Cain Starkiller". The protagonist's name later changing to 'Anakin Skywalker'.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Dec 2015, 04:40
Indeed, but my initial title confusion had more to do with the titles just being very similar and me knowing about that game nearly a decade before the movie came out...even if the game wasn't that good.
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Post by: BenRG on 23 Dec 2015, 04:43
Indeed, but my initial title confusion had more to do with the titles just being very similar and me knowing about that game nearly a decade before the movie came out...even if the game wasn't that good.

IIRC, The Force Unleashed was one of the last non-MMO games LucasArts produced and I've got a feeling that the protagonist's name wasn't coincidental. I suspect that they'd finally hit the bottom of the jar full of screwed up bits of paper with George's ideas written on them, if you take my meaning.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Dec 2015, 04:45
Well of course it was a reference to Luke's original name, that was clear from the start. And it wasn't bad (although the sequel was), just very short. The story was interesting though.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Dec 2015, 09:09
Supposedly the character from Force Unleashed was named in reference/homage to the original name of the Skywalker character. But then a lot of different media for Star Wars has a habit of calling back to the original draft work for A New Hope. The people who do Star Wars Rebels have stated they went back to a lot of Ralph McQuarrie's concept drawings for the show's art design. They even included a character named Quarrie in the second season.

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Post by: Edguy on 23 Dec 2015, 09:33
Edit; I used quote tags instead of spoiler tags  :psyduck:

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Post by: Kugai on 23 Dec 2015, 12:33
Sadly, I have been corrupted to the point where every time I see the term "star killer", I think of Sheridan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3iN-JlyYxE
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Post by: de_la_Nae on 23 Dec 2015, 19:31
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Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Dec 2015, 19:47
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Post by: jwhouk on 23 Dec 2015, 20:02
There has been an Awakening. I have felt it.
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Post by: BenRG on 24 Dec 2015, 05:18
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Just a bit of in-universe information. The energy output of the Death Star 1's superlaser cannon was calculated by a Star Wars fan with a scientific background as being about the same as the output of a sun-type star for the same duration (about 1/2 of a second). This was based on an assumption that Alderaan was about the same size as Earth and, based on that, calculating the average outward velocity of the debris and using that to calculate the energy added to the planet's body to break it apart in such a way.

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Post by: Edguy on 24 Dec 2015, 05:55
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Just a bit of in-universe information. The energy output of the Death Star 1's superlaser cannon was calculated by a Star Wars fan with a scientific background as being about the same as the output of a sun-type star for the same duration (about 1/2 of a second). This was based on an assumption that Alderaan was about the same size as Earth and, based on that, calculating the average outward velocity of the debris and using that to calculate the energy added to the planet's body to break it apart in such a way.

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Well, there ya go. If the output of a Death Star was the output of an average sun for 0.5 seconds, then consider the fact that a sun maintains such an output for several billion years. With that in mind, it's logical to conclude that you could literally destroy several billion planets with the entire energy output of one star. They could hypthetically use some justification like having to use EXTREME amounts of energy to fire the weapon through hyperspace, but this doesn't really fall in line with hyperspace being a relatively common feature in this universe, and even small, private operators (like Solo) having access to ships with hyperspace. It would also make firing it from hyperspace highly inefficient as opposed to firing it within normal ranges.

TL;DR: Starkiller base is a poorly conceived macguffin.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2015, 11:15
Well yeah, but so are light sabers.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2015, 14:30
Emo Kylo Ren (https://twitter.com/kylor3n) (spoilers)

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Post by: SubaruStephen on 26 Dec 2015, 04:55
Emo Kylo Ren (https://twitter.com/kylor3n) (spoilers)

Oh, gods, that's the funniest stuff I've seen in a week. (Seriously, there were tears of laughter)
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