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Title: No more Twinkies
Post by: lepetitfromage on 16 Nov 2012, 12:51
Turns out Twinkies don't actually last forever.... (http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx)
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Zingoleb on 16 Nov 2012, 12:53
That makes me happier than it should.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: LTK on 16 Nov 2012, 13:56
I can't imagine this was the outcome the union was gunning for.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Nov 2012, 14:02
Turns out Twinkies don't actually last forever.... (http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx)

I'm sad about that. Really. Not because of Twinkies, but because of Ding Dongs/Ring Dings.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Nov 2012, 14:52
Wait, hang on, is that actually serious? Good grief. Hostess Cupcakes are like, definitively my idea of American food.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Nov 2012, 15:07
As of today, no more shipments of any Hostess-brand products.

I just personally hope my employer doesn't get the same idea.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Zingoleb on 16 Nov 2012, 15:07
America's international image just got a lot more clear in my mind. Thanks, May.

(http://i.imgur.com/i2StA.jpg)
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Nov 2012, 15:28
I can't imagine this was the outcome the union was gunning for.

18,500 people laid off - a triumph for the labour movement!  No one can say they don't have influence any more!
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: ackblom12 on 16 Nov 2012, 16:51
I can't imagine this was the outcome the union was gunning for.

18,500 people laid off - a triumph for the labour movement!  No one can say they don't have influence any more!

http://wonkette.com/490001/america-mourns-death-of-snack-food-murdered-by-union-thugs

It's pretty sickening what all went on up to the liquidation of workers.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bluesummers on 16 Nov 2012, 19:03
It was a joint thugliness effort by the union, who refused to come to some sort of compromise, and the company, who has been handling their finances poorly for several years. Connecticut's Hostess plants are losing several thousand workers as well.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: ackblom12 on 16 Nov 2012, 19:35
Oh please, the deals they were offering the workers were not anything nearing acceptable. All this really did was make this happen maybe a couple of years earlier than it would have anyways and with fewer bonuses to the execs. Shit result, yes, but I'm not going to blame this one on the Teamsters.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Nov 2012, 19:39
UPDATE: Local Wal-Mart is completely OUT of Twinkies, Ho-Ho's, Ding-Dongs and Suzy-Q's. Only thing left is muffins.

Layoffs for the local distributors - who probably saw this coming a long time ago.

A thought about this - what will this do to "knock-off" generics, like Wal-Mart's Great Value brands?
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Papersatan on 16 Nov 2012, 19:41
gonna just put this out there.  Swiss cake rolls are better than ho-ho's (were?) anyways.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Carl-E on 16 Nov 2012, 20:06
Anyone who believes that there isn't some bakery out there that's going to buy these names (and recipes) and take up their manufacture doesn't understand the term "liquidation". 

And it wasn't the teamsters - they'd settled on a rotten deal two weeks ago.  It was the baker's union.  The company was offering over 30 percent cuts in pay and benefits just to keep your job... and we're climbing out of a recession? 
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Nov 2012, 20:21
Hostess has been pretty bad for years
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Jace on 17 Nov 2012, 02:05
The thing is, sometimes stuff like this does have to happen. Otherwise what is even the point of the unions? If all it takes is a company threatening to lay off a bunch of employees for them to be forced to take a shitty deal just to have a job then the union is just the useless middleman between the employee getting screwed and the employer screwing.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Nov 2012, 02:17
Anyone who believes that there isn't some bakery out there that's going to buy these names (and recipes) and take up their manufacture doesn't understand the term "liquidation". 

And it wasn't the teamsters - they'd settled on a rotten deal two weeks ago.  It was the baker's union.  The company was offering over 30 percent cuts in pay and benefits just to keep your job... and we're climbing out of a recession?

The question, though, is whether or not the unions in question (and the distributors and other debtors) might sue to prevent that liquidation from happening.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Nov 2012, 02:59
If all it takes is a company threatening to lay off a bunch of employees for them to be forced to take a shitty deal just to have a job

That is only relevant if the company has a choice; if the company is going down there may be no way for it to do what the unions want, and no amount of posturing will change that.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bluesummers on 17 Nov 2012, 07:01
I've never actually had a twinkie before, and now I wish I had.

You're not missing much, trust me.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Carl-E on 17 Nov 2012, 08:06
Haven't had one in over ten years.  My wife will occasionally get a cupcake or hoho's (let's say about once a month, shall we?)
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Nov 2012, 08:37
I imagine some company will buy the IP soon enough. The thing is that a lot of these items are so well recognised that someone is going to think "Hmmm, we can expand our business with an already established product that we know can sell".
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bluesummers on 17 Nov 2012, 09:02
I can only imagine Anthony Sullivan doing a 30-minute infomercial on the amazing benefits of TWINKIES! They jiggle, they wiggle! Buy one pack, but WAIT! We'll throw in TWO MORE PACKS, absolutely free! Just pay separate shipping, and if you don't like them, return them within thirty days for a COMPLETE REFUND! You can even keep the included Ding-dong as our gift to you, just for TRYING IT OUT! CALL NOW!!!


Either that, or some hentai group will grab the domain and try to market submissive maidservant porn to the unsuspecting websurfer.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Nov 2012, 09:39
The time to sell the trademark and recipe was while it was still a going concern.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Kugai on 17 Nov 2012, 10:07
But that would have made sense IICIH
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Nov 2012, 12:21
Lasts forever, hard to get -- maybe Twinkies will be the next big thing in engagement rings.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Nov 2012, 16:44
This also affects one other key member of Interstate Brands: Wonder Bread.

There's still a lot of their products left on the shelf, but when that stuff is gone - it's gone.

The Walmart Supercenter in Wausau has already "filled" the empty shelf space with a local company's snack bars. Nature, and capitalism, abhors a vacuum.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: riccostar on 17 Nov 2012, 21:19
Has anyone else heard that our corpses are now taking longer to decompose because of all the preservatives we consume in foods?
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: TheEvilDog on 17 Nov 2012, 21:46
The Macrobians would extract all moisture their dead and then cover them in a type of plaster.

The Han Dynasty of China used an embalming solution containing mercury and antimony.

Several European nations, as well as both sides during the American Civil War would store the dead in brandy and other alcohol as they were being sent home for burial.

After 1867, formaldehyde has been the basis for most embalming. In fact most medical cadavers are preserved in the stuff (my cousin is in his last basic year of med-school, he's done the "you-get-a-body-to-examine-for-a-year" thing.

So being preserved by Twinkies and Ho Hos? Compared to the other methods that have been used? Doesn't sound that bad.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bluesummers on 18 Nov 2012, 06:31
This also affects one other key member of Interstate Brands: Wonder Bread.

But their product divsion isn't closing...is it? It was run separately, financially.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Nov 2012, 07:01
This also affects one other key member of Interstate Brands: Wonder Bread.

But their product divsion isn't closing...is it? It was run separately, financially.

Click on wonderbread.com and see where you end up. :(
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Nov 2012, 07:22
I haven't had a Twinkie in years, but now I kind of want one. In fact, if a company buys the brand and puts them out fast enough, I might even buy a few!
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Lines on 18 Nov 2012, 07:29
I don't care about Twinkies. I do, however, care about the cupcakes. I shall miss them a little, especially the orange ones. Gonna have to figure out how to make them myself.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: BeoPuppy on 18 Nov 2012, 08:06
Make your own twinks:

http://leitesculinaria.com/71100/recipes-homemade-twinkies.html
http://tishboyle.blogspot.nl/2012/01/homemade-hostess-orange-cupcakes.html
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Carl-E on 18 Nov 2012, 09:48
...and my daughter found this (http://www.bonappetit.com/blogsandforums/blogs/badaily/2011/10/junk-food-makeover-hostess-cup.html) for the chocolate ones.  TBH, it looks a bit too involved for my taste.  I'll just have to make do with Little Debbie's and Tastykakes...
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Nov 2012, 12:29
There are a few people on eBay who are trying to sell bulk Hostess products for ridiculous prices. Not many of them are getting bids.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: mustang6172 on 18 Nov 2012, 19:34
I've never had a Twinkie myself.  I grew up on Tastykake.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Nov 2012, 19:54
Some news:

IBC/Hostess may be saved by... a Bimbo? ? ? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/bimbo-twinkies-mexican-hostess-liquidation_n_2155070.html)
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: lepetitfromage on 19 Nov 2012, 06:21
I don't know how true it is, but I heard that one box of Twinkies sold on eBay for $60.



Personally.....I'm gonna miss the raspberry Zingers.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Barmymoo on 19 Nov 2012, 08:10
I just googled what a Twinkie and a Ho Ho actually are, and guys - it's ok. Those are just Swiss rolls. You can just buy them from somewhere else.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Lines on 19 Nov 2012, 08:17
Ho Hos are nasty. And actually, I just looked up Hostess snacks and the only ones I have eaten in the past 10 years are the cupcakes and Zingers. Little Debbie still exists. Little Debbie with her Nutter Bars and Star Crunches and Fudge Rounds and Zebra Cakes and...all the other stuff I loved as a kid. Also they have Cloud Cakes which are basically Twinkies, so honestly, I don't really care anymore.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bluesummers on 19 Nov 2012, 19:30
Honestly, I think I'll be able to cope without Hostess just fine. But God forbid Taco Bell ever goes bankrupt, I'll have no reason to live anymore...
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: BeoPuppy on 19 Nov 2012, 23:06
There will always be Bowmore.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Nov 2012, 01:40
So, Hostess and the baker's union went into mediation to try to save the company. 


Someone want to explain why the hell this didn't happen earlier?  I thought it would have been mandated by the bankruptcy court before going into liquidation! 


Was all this an elaborately manipulated threat by management? 



Why, yes.  Clearly. 


Fuckers. 
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Patrick on 20 Nov 2012, 02:04
Little Debbie still exists. Little Debbie with her Nutter Bars and Star Crunches and Fudge Rounds and Zebra Cakes

MOTHER FUCKING ZEBRA CAKES ARE THE BEST GODDAMN FUCK IN ALL OF SHIT
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bev on 25 Nov 2012, 05:47
Fuck Twinkies, there I said it. Eat some healthy food you goddamn fat-arse Americans. Failing that, you can always make your own, hundreds of recipes have already shown up online.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Patrick on 25 Nov 2012, 07:13
Eat some healthy food you goddamn fat-arse Americans.

Hey now, let's not be like that. All people suck, not just us.
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Carl-E on 25 Nov 2012, 08:51
We just suck cream filling. 


...which just sounds dirty. 
Title: Re: No more Twinkies
Post by: Bluesummers on 25 Nov 2012, 10:53
I just glanced at the thread title again, and "No More I-Love-You's" by Annie Lennox just popped into my head...it seems so appropriate here.