THESE FORUMS NOW CLOSED (read only)
Fun Stuff => CHATTER => Topic started by: lepetitfromage on 16 Nov 2012, 12:51
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Turns out Twinkies don't actually last forever.... (http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx)
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That makes me happier than it should.
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I can't imagine this was the outcome the union was gunning for.
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Turns out Twinkies don't actually last forever.... (http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx)
I'm sad about that. Really. Not because of Twinkies, but because of Ding Dongs/Ring Dings.
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Wait, hang on, is that actually serious? Good grief. Hostess Cupcakes are like, definitively my idea of American food.
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As of today, no more shipments of any Hostess-brand products.
I just personally hope my employer doesn't get the same idea.
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America's international image just got a lot more clear in my mind. Thanks, May.
(http://i.imgur.com/i2StA.jpg)
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I can't imagine this was the outcome the union was gunning for.
18,500 people laid off - a triumph for the labour movement! No one can say they don't have influence any more!
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I can't imagine this was the outcome the union was gunning for.
18,500 people laid off - a triumph for the labour movement! No one can say they don't have influence any more!
http://wonkette.com/490001/america-mourns-death-of-snack-food-murdered-by-union-thugs
It's pretty sickening what all went on up to the liquidation of workers.
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It was a joint thugliness effort by the union, who refused to come to some sort of compromise, and the company, who has been handling their finances poorly for several years. Connecticut's Hostess plants are losing several thousand workers as well.
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Oh please, the deals they were offering the workers were not anything nearing acceptable. All this really did was make this happen maybe a couple of years earlier than it would have anyways and with fewer bonuses to the execs. Shit result, yes, but I'm not going to blame this one on the Teamsters.
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UPDATE: Local Wal-Mart is completely OUT of Twinkies, Ho-Ho's, Ding-Dongs and Suzy-Q's. Only thing left is muffins.
Layoffs for the local distributors - who probably saw this coming a long time ago.
A thought about this - what will this do to "knock-off" generics, like Wal-Mart's Great Value brands?
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gonna just put this out there. Swiss cake rolls are better than ho-ho's (were?) anyways.
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Anyone who believes that there isn't some bakery out there that's going to buy these names (and recipes) and take up their manufacture doesn't understand the term "liquidation".
And it wasn't the teamsters - they'd settled on a rotten deal two weeks ago. It was the baker's union. The company was offering over 30 percent cuts in pay and benefits just to keep your job... and we're climbing out of a recession?
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Hostess has been pretty bad for years
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The thing is, sometimes stuff like this does have to happen. Otherwise what is even the point of the unions? If all it takes is a company threatening to lay off a bunch of employees for them to be forced to take a shitty deal just to have a job then the union is just the useless middleman between the employee getting screwed and the employer screwing.
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Anyone who believes that there isn't some bakery out there that's going to buy these names (and recipes) and take up their manufacture doesn't understand the term "liquidation".
And it wasn't the teamsters - they'd settled on a rotten deal two weeks ago. It was the baker's union. The company was offering over 30 percent cuts in pay and benefits just to keep your job... and we're climbing out of a recession?
The question, though, is whether or not the unions in question (and the distributors and other debtors) might sue to prevent that liquidation from happening.
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If all it takes is a company threatening to lay off a bunch of employees for them to be forced to take a shitty deal just to have a job
That is only relevant if the company has a choice; if the company is going down there may be no way for it to do what the unions want, and no amount of posturing will change that.
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I've never actually had a twinkie before, and now I wish I had.
You're not missing much, trust me.
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Haven't had one in over ten years. My wife will occasionally get a cupcake or hoho's (let's say about once a month, shall we?)
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I imagine some company will buy the IP soon enough. The thing is that a lot of these items are so well recognised that someone is going to think "Hmmm, we can expand our business with an already established product that we know can sell".
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I can only imagine Anthony Sullivan doing a 30-minute infomercial on the amazing benefits of TWINKIES! They jiggle, they wiggle! Buy one pack, but WAIT! We'll throw in TWO MORE PACKS, absolutely free! Just pay separate shipping, and if you don't like them, return them within thirty days for a COMPLETE REFUND! You can even keep the included Ding-dong as our gift to you, just for TRYING IT OUT! CALL NOW!!!
Either that, or some hentai group will grab the domain and try to market submissive maidservant porn to the unsuspecting websurfer.
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The time to sell the trademark and recipe was while it was still a going concern.
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But that would have made sense IICIH
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Lasts forever, hard to get -- maybe Twinkies will be the next big thing in engagement rings.
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This also affects one other key member of Interstate Brands: Wonder Bread.
There's still a lot of their products left on the shelf, but when that stuff is gone - it's gone.
The Walmart Supercenter in Wausau has already "filled" the empty shelf space with a local company's snack bars. Nature, and capitalism, abhors a vacuum.
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Has anyone else heard that our corpses are now taking longer to decompose because of all the preservatives we consume in foods?
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The Macrobians would extract all moisture their dead and then cover them in a type of plaster.
The Han Dynasty of China used an embalming solution containing mercury and antimony.
Several European nations, as well as both sides during the American Civil War would store the dead in brandy and other alcohol as they were being sent home for burial.
After 1867, formaldehyde has been the basis for most embalming. In fact most medical cadavers are preserved in the stuff (my cousin is in his last basic year of med-school, he's done the "you-get-a-body-to-examine-for-a-year" thing.
So being preserved by Twinkies and Ho Hos? Compared to the other methods that have been used? Doesn't sound that bad.
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This also affects one other key member of Interstate Brands: Wonder Bread.
But their product divsion isn't closing...is it? It was run separately, financially.
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This also affects one other key member of Interstate Brands: Wonder Bread.
But their product divsion isn't closing...is it? It was run separately, financially.
Click on wonderbread.com and see where you end up. :(
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I haven't had a Twinkie in years, but now I kind of want one. In fact, if a company buys the brand and puts them out fast enough, I might even buy a few!
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I don't care about Twinkies. I do, however, care about the cupcakes. I shall miss them a little, especially the orange ones. Gonna have to figure out how to make them myself.
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Make your own twinks:
http://leitesculinaria.com/71100/recipes-homemade-twinkies.html
http://tishboyle.blogspot.nl/2012/01/homemade-hostess-orange-cupcakes.html
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...and my daughter found this (http://www.bonappetit.com/blogsandforums/blogs/badaily/2011/10/junk-food-makeover-hostess-cup.html) for the chocolate ones. TBH, it looks a bit too involved for my taste. I'll just have to make do with Little Debbie's and Tastykakes...
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There are a few people on eBay who are trying to sell bulk Hostess products for ridiculous prices. Not many of them are getting bids.
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I've never had a Twinkie myself. I grew up on Tastykake.
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Some news:
IBC/Hostess may be saved by... a Bimbo? ? ? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/bimbo-twinkies-mexican-hostess-liquidation_n_2155070.html)
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I don't know how true it is, but I heard that one box of Twinkies sold on eBay for $60.
Personally.....I'm gonna miss the raspberry Zingers.
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I just googled what a Twinkie and a Ho Ho actually are, and guys - it's ok. Those are just Swiss rolls. You can just buy them from somewhere else.
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Ho Hos are nasty. And actually, I just looked up Hostess snacks and the only ones I have eaten in the past 10 years are the cupcakes and Zingers. Little Debbie still exists. Little Debbie with her Nutter Bars and Star Crunches and Fudge Rounds and Zebra Cakes and...all the other stuff I loved as a kid. Also they have Cloud Cakes which are basically Twinkies, so honestly, I don't really care anymore.
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Honestly, I think I'll be able to cope without Hostess just fine. But God forbid Taco Bell ever goes bankrupt, I'll have no reason to live anymore...
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There will always be Bowmore.
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So, Hostess and the baker's union went into mediation to try to save the company.
Someone want to explain why the hell this didn't happen earlier? I thought it would have been mandated by the bankruptcy court before going into liquidation!
Was all this an elaborately manipulated threat by management?
Why, yes. Clearly.
Fuckers.
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Little Debbie still exists. Little Debbie with her Nutter Bars and Star Crunches and Fudge Rounds and Zebra Cakes
MOTHER FUCKING ZEBRA CAKES ARE THE BEST GODDAMN FUCK IN ALL OF SHIT
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Fuck Twinkies, there I said it. Eat some healthy food you goddamn fat-arse Americans. Failing that, you can always make your own, hundreds of recipes have already shown up online.
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Eat some healthy food you goddamn fat-arse Americans.
Hey now, let's not be like that. All people suck, not just us.
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We just suck cream filling.
...which just sounds dirty.
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I just glanced at the thread title again, and "No More I-Love-You's" by Annie Lennox just popped into my head...it seems so appropriate here.