Sorry I'm late. Work issues. Namely, forced additional hours of work issues. Discuss what's next for Marten's Mom's Speed Dating Services(tm).
It's ESPECIALLY with minimalist styles that deepest emotions can be conveyed. You are forced to fill in the blanks yourself, so to speak ;)There's a joke about a certain former Pennsylvania senator somewhere in there, but I doubt he'd show up to a gay wedding.
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Shit-lube? ... wow, she really has NO idea about the proper order of dating activities, does she?
Okay, got a script. It is about BEDROOM AWKWARDNESS :o
Who's prepared for the ~LOL double-bed hotel room mixup XD~?
It's ESPECIALLY with minimalist styles that deepest emotions can be conveyed. You are forced to fill in the blanks yourself, so to speak ;)There's a joke about a certain former Pennsylvania senator somewhere in there, but I doubt he'd show up to a gay wedding.
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Shit-lube? ... wow, she really has NO idea about the proper order of dating activities, does she?
Hey, maybe we will meet Kirk (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1829)! :-D
but I think that Claire has a certain aura of femininity that's more visible without the spectacles.
Every Republican? :psyduck:It's ESPECIALLY with minimalist styles that deepest emotions can be conveyed. You are forced to fill in the blanks yourself, so to speak ;)There's a joke about a certain former Pennsylvania senator somewhere in there, but I doubt he'd show up to a gay wedding.
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Shit-lube? ... wow, she really has NO idea about the proper order of dating activities, does she?
We never did learn the name of the Senator who was into hot wax and rulers.
And Anthony Weiner.We never did learn the name of the Senator who was into hot wax and rulers.Every Republican? :psyduck:
I tend to like girls with glasses myself, but I think that Claire has a certain aura of femininity that's more visible without the spectacles.
but I think that Claire has a certain aura of femininity that's more visible without the spectacles.
Jeph did a nice job with the door, I thought.Usually inward, from what I've seen, but it depends on the house. It doesn't matter, really.
But, do hotel bathroom doors usually open in or out?
It was an unjustified assumption to book Marten and his "plus one" into the same bedroom.
Other guests will be making unjustified assumptions about Marten and Claire.
Don't boxers meet relevant standards of decency?
Must not ship, must not ship, must not ship, must not ship.... >__<;;
I must ask though, what is a cot? My translator gave varying results.I think this is the standard definition of a cot:
Don't boxers meet relevant standards of decency?That depends: 1230 (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1230) and 1740 (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1740)
Don't boxers meet relevant standards of decency?I think Marten assumed so...until Claire mentioned PJs.
And a thought once thunk cannot be unthunk. Much as Claire would like to. Fortunately, she's really, really tired. Otherwise she might not get much sleep, trying not to speculate about.... I'm going to shut up now, again. How about them Dodgers?Don't boxers meet relevant standards of decency?That depends: 1230 (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1230) and 1740 (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1740)
I'm glad Marten wasn't "stuck in a cot or something". He's really a nice guy. Maybe I'm too cynical, but the fact that he just assumed that as the alternate arrangement was... gentlemanly? Rare. Sorry, it is rare.
Claire could do a lot worse, is all. I mean, if... I'll shut up now.
And a thought once thunk cannot be unthunk. Much as Claire would like to. Fortunately, she's really, really tired. Otherwise she might not get much sleep, trying not to speculate about.... I'm going to shut up now, again. How about them Dodgers?
Claire's blush face in the 4th panel almost put me into a coma it was so freakin cute.
He could add a t-shirt to his bedtime apparel.
Another awkward zone initiated.
Jeph did a nice job with the door, I thought.They usually open out, especially in newer hotels.
But, do hotel bathroom doors usually open in or out?
To me, "cot" means the little bed in which babies sleep (cf: cot deaths). Google agrees (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=cot&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi). I'm aware of its use for a simple bed, as in "three hots and a cot (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/three_hots_and_a_cot)", but it's not how I would use the word normally.
He could add a t-shirt to his bedtime apparel.
I think this is the standard definition of a cot:That's certainly my depiction of a standard-issue U.S. Army bunk 50 years ago. When I think of cot, I see the canvas stretched on a folding wood frame.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cot_%28PSF%29.png
In US English, across a couple of regions where I've lived, "cot" would be the folding bed substitute.
And a baby's bed would be a "crib"?
Also, damn, Claire is cute: http://jephjacques.com/post/43488595021/asdfasdfasdfasdfasdf-so-cute-asdfn-dsfgsdgjl
Also, damn, Claire is cute: http://jephjacques.com/post/43488595021/asdfasdfasdfasdfasdf-so-cute-asdfn-dsfgsdgjl
Also, damn, Claire is cute: http://jephjacques.com/post/43488595021/asdfasdfasdfasdfasdf-so-cute-asdfn-dsfgsdgjl
All this confusion confuses me. Nearly every hotel room I've been in had two beds, yet some speak like it's an aberration. Several hotel rooms I've been in had couches with fold away beds inside- I know because I was the lucky occupant. Such is travel with family. And yes it's technically chivalrous to offer to sleep on a cot instead of with a female friend you do not currently have any romance with, but that's like saying not catcalling someone walking down the street is chivalrous. It's just basic decency mixed with the remnants of patriarchy (since poor, fragile women don't get the cot while strong, manly men get the bed).
I also find the dancing around shipping more annoying than any actual shipping, especially since Jeph himself is putting so much focus on their relationship. It's only logical to speculate on whether he intends for this relationship to become a ship. To unfurl canvas. To slip out of drydock. To hit the water.
Claire probably doesn't have much relationship experience.
Claire probably doesn't have much relationship experience.
Google agrees (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=cot&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi).
Google agrees (http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=cot&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi).
Only localized. (https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cot&gbv=2&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1366&bih=679&sei=Oe0jUfW1Cs2K0QG4i4DgCg)
The amount of discussion over an offhand comment is simultaneously entertaining and weird. Marten is American and extrapolating from that, he's familiar with American English
I highly doubt that Henry would book his own son into a cot for his wedding.
But come to think of it, I've seen plenty of hotel rooms with two separate bedrooms.
That said, I think the only unjustified assumptions about Marten or Claire are going to come from the forums. :P
The other wedding guests probably won't care. Or if they do, they are apparently incredibly nosy for no reason.
The REAL problems and unjustified assumptions would arise if Claire caught the bouquet... :evil:
Like I said before, I predict that Claire will fall for Marten, but Marten will sink the ship.
The amount of discussion over an offhand comment is simultaneously entertaining and weird. Marten is American and extrapolating from that, he's familiar with American English
So what's weird? Many people in this forum are not American, and so discussion over the meanings of words used in the comic (or simply in discussions on the forum itself) is commonplace. Indeed there are people here with a particular interest in language and words who relish these discussions.
Boxer briefs FTW.Geez, now I'm afraid to sleep naked...I haven't had a torsion incident since I was 16. Now you've got me all worried...
A little more freedom than tighty whities, but not so much that there's a testicular torsion risk. Because that's no laughing matter.
Like I said before, I predict that Claire will fall for Marten, but Marten will sink the ship.
I think, to a certain extent, Claire already has fallen for Marten. Or at least is starting to. Marten seems completely oblivious to this so far.
Yeah, the unjustified assumption would be booking a room with a single bed. A single room with two beds just assumes that Marten and his guest get along, and why would he invite someone he didn't get along with? :psyduck:It was an unjustified assumption to book Marten and his "plus one" into the same bedroom.
Other guests will be making unjustified assumptions about Marten and Claire.
Don't boxers meet relevant standards of decency?
I'm going to assume it wasn't so much an asumption as it was cheapness.
Boxers are kinda too roomy ...Oh god, I had to wear non-boxer underpants for a few days (that fit otherwise) a few months ago when the airline lost my bag and...what you call safety, I call imprisonment
I have no idea how to explain it,
It somehow lacks the feeling of "safety" than underwear ... .
Boxer briefs FTW.Fuck no, I think those were the types I wore, since they were called boxers on the lying packaging. They had the disadvantages of both boxers and briefs. (Then again, this was in Israel, where if you ask for an "iced coffee" they give you a blended milk and coffee thing rather than just...ice and coffee, as the words imply. I found out the day before I left that I was supposed to ask for a "cold Americano" to get what I wanted. Kind of frustrating.)
And, yes, Marten should probably wear pants.This ain't the Ritz.
Question in relation to the comic abit: A transgendered girl I met last year told me during her change, her penis doesn't have any "feeling" nor she can't get an erection anymore, and because of this, she pimps herself out as a BDSM painslut slave (her words, not mine). Am I bad to think that Claire is getting aroused down there or not given her facial expressions and her eye look?
Am I bad to think that Claire is getting aroused down there or not given her facial expressions and her eye look?No, not bad, it's natural I guess. I don't know, I've never been cis!
Imagine yourself as a small child. Your body, apart from those bits normally concealed by your undies is sexually ambiguous. And the hidden bits don't do anything anyway - they don't really bug you. But you know what Dad looks like - that thick, hanging thing. In your dreams, you have one too, but it's always gone when you wake up. You get used to it.
You start growing up. You hit puberty, your breasts start to grow and are extremely painful. One morning you wake up and your bottom sheet (normally blue) is bright red and your legs and hands and face are blood smeared. You knew this would happen eventually, but you thought that your head would change at the same time - that you'd no longer feel like a boy. Instead you're more a boy and kinda scared. But you know that if you act like a boy, you'll get a talking-to from your parents. You sit and bear all the reminders (more frequent now that you bleed and have things on your chest) to act like a lady, wondering when you'll feel like a lady and when someone will tell you how to act like a lady. It's hard work looking at everyone and cataloging their actions, working out how women are meant to behave. And it feels so wrong when you do that stuff.
Around about the same time, you realise, rather suddenly, that when what's happening to you finishes, IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD! Not to put too fine a point on it, you Like Girls. Well that explains everything then. You're a Lesbian. You guess all lesbians feel like they're really boys in disguise - that's why they like other girls right? Because they're only sort-of girls? It's normal for a lesbian to hate wearing a bra - because it makes her chest shape all wrong. It's normal for a lesbian to feel embarrassed and hate her body below the waist. And above.
Then the real test comes: You've never really had any romantic attachment before. For some reason it has always felt wrong and you've avoided it. Sure sometimes you take special care, go out wearing a shirt and tie, bind the chest and uh. something in the trousers. It feels good but as soon as you start talking to someone, your voice gives you away as a pretender, a wannabe.
But someone comes along, someone that you could talk to forever, hold forever. She's a beautiful woman and God, you Want her. She's keen on you too and before you know what's happening, you're lying, naked, warm and relaxed in a mutual embrace. But even in ecstasy (and that's hard enough), you can't fully suppress the screaming in your head. Your body is wrong.
Is there any way to fix it? Whose idea is this anyway? Making you walk around for your entire life with the wrong shaped body. Why do people look at you and say "Yeah, right" when you say that you're a guy?
You find out that there is hormones and surgery. In the first, you're lucky: In a hormone fight, Testosterone wins. In the second, not so good, they can fix your chest such that it's flat, they can remove the parts that make you bleed (though that'll stop anyway with T), but you'll never have the penis that you can feel.
Once you consent to going through puberty again, you're on your way to becoming the guy you've always been - and it's only a few years too late. But there's a problem. People you love, people you work with, people you socialise with. They were all dependent on having a daughter, a sister, a female colleague, a female friend. I mean you had a female name right? Even though you never acted like a daughter, a sister, a girl, a woman. Somehow the fact that you were badged, when you were barely self aware is meant to define you forever. They reject you. They know your body will never be complete enough to reproduce and so they condemn you to be a girl forever. They'll never accept you as anything but.
There is hope though, some people, even if they don't really understand what it's like for the head to say something different to the genitals, care. And you'll go on in life and meet people that never knew you as a wannabe girl. They'll just see, and work with and share with the man you are. You'll care a bit more about women too - people you work and live with - because once, you faced the same challenges as they do. For you it was harder - you weren't wired for it, most of them are. They always could bear to look in the mirror, they always felt right when someone they loved loved them, they always woke up with all the right bits attached, all the right clothes in the wardrobe. Now, so do you.
Here's something that may aid understanding. It's written by a guy I know.Quote...
Gah, hate to be the nit-picker, but something was throwing me off about panel 1, and at least if I post it it might help anyone else who's thinking "something's not right there". Claire's legs are reflected incorrectly.Same with her hair. It looks like it's swaying in the mirror, but it's clearly straight down IRL.
Kinda hard to say, since we don't know for certain whether she's pre-op or post-op. Though I imagine if Claire and Marten end up going to Makeout Town, we'll soon find out.There are several communities in Shipping Shire, like Slash Settlement, Coitus City, Dating District, and of course Marriage Metropolis. Makeout Town is kind of odd because it's not Alliterative.
The only logical explanation is that light moves much slower in QCverse, so there's some lag time. Either that, or it's a smart picture mirror that can take snapshots so you can examine your reflection without contortion.Gah, hate to be the nit-picker, but something was throwing me off about panel 1, and at least if I post it it might help anyone else who's thinking "something's not right there". Claire's legs are reflected incorrectly.Same with her hair. It looks like it's swaying in the mirror, but it's clearly straight down IRL.
He prolly has to change his undies and was afraid she was going to come out at an unopportune moment. If that is so, he just displayed an unusual case of Genre Savvy.
You know Marten, you could have dressed while she was in the bathroom. Just saying.
There are several communities in Shipping Shire, like Slash Settlement, Coitus City, Dating District, and of course Marriage Metropolis. Makeout Town is kind of odd because it's not Alliterative.
Gah, hate to be the nit-picker, but something was throwing me off about panel 1, and at least if I post it it might help anyone else who's thinking "something's not right there". Claire's legs are reflected incorrectly.
why is he wearing SHOES
I have recently read that as an additional problem, sexual preferences can sometimes be reversed in trans* people when they undergo hormonal therapy. Is that even remotely true?Yes. About a third of the time. Usually from lesbian to straight for trans women - though more like asexual to sexual.
Gah, hate to be the nit-picker, but something was throwing me off about panel 1, and at least if I post it it might help anyone else who's thinking "something's not right there". Claire's legs are reflected incorrectly.
Yes. About a third of the time. Usually from lesbian to straight for trans women - though more like asexual to sexual.To clarify (I think I get what you're saying), you were (at least somewhat) interested in women before beginning HRT, and then became interested in men once everything chemically realigned?
If the change happens 9 months after starting HRT, it's probably physiological, it takes that long for Vassopressin to clear cellular receptors in the brain. But it may be clearing of a psychological block, as it is if it happens long before or long after.
Some trans women who easily cope with all other challenges in transition have some difficulty if they're in that one in three.
Yes, I speak from personal experience. No-one else was surprised, but I was utterly convinced I'd be happily lesbian, and not straight. WRONG!!!!!!
I really don't know how (nearly) everyone else copes with puberty. You do it in your teens too. I found it difficult enough at 48.
Considering he knows Japanese Rope Binding, I'm pretty sure he already knows the tips.
Considering he knows Japanese Rope Binding, I'm pretty sure he already knows the tips.
More in practical terms.
Depends - have you never seen a 3D large screen capture before? It might not be an old fashioned analog mirror, but a 3D image snapped some seconds before.
A very useful consumer device, allowing the user to take a snap, then examine the back of the head for hairdo failures etc. It would have made a mint for the inventors, but they put it in the public domain.
Getting dressed while Claire was in the bathroom would have been the smart thing to do. Maybe it's the old school Uniform Parades I had to do as a young whippersnapper in the Army, but getting out of underwear and into fresh ones and a pair of pants is what, 30 seconds - 45 if you're slow. After that the timings for Marten wouldn't be that strict.
To clarify (I think I get what you're saying), you were (at least somewhat) interested in women before beginning HRT, and then became interested in men once everything chemically realigned?Not women so much as one particular woman. So interested, I fell head-over-heels in love with her at first sight. Engaged after a month, married a year later.
Claire looks very nice (I love the shade of blue), except that white bow is very strange. I've never seen anything like it, but I imagine Jeph found it somewhere.I thought it added the perfect finishing touch. But then, my clothes sense is on a par with Marigold's.
I really don't know how (nearly) everyone else copes with puberty. You do it in your teens too. I found it difficult enough at 48.
Makeout Municipality?He prolly has to change his undies and was afraid she was going to come out at an unopportune moment. If that is so, he just displayed an unusual case of Genre Savvy.
You know Marten, you could have dressed while she was in the bathroom. Just saying.QuoteThere are several communities in Shipping Shire, like Slash Settlement, Coitus City, Dating District, and of course Marriage Metropolis. Makeout Town is kind of odd because it's not Alliterative.
Makeout Metropolis!
Makeout Municipality?
...there is no damn way you're 48.Why wouldn't she be 48? I know people in their 60s that are similarly undecayed.
Being a glasses-wearer with a pretty heavy prescription, every time I see a character that normally wears glasses without them, I have to wonder: contacts, light prescription, or "flying blind?"I must share this sentiment. I suspect it's a nearsighted vs farsighted issue. My vision is okay at 20/40, but I still have never considered going without my glasses. Occasionally, I don't even take them off to swim.
by the way, Valdís, nice quote in your signature! The Hávamál is a great piece of old norse poetry!
Also: First post of me as a former lurker!
Being a glasses-wearer with a pretty heavy prescription, every time I see a character that normally wears glasses without them, I have to wonder: contacts, light prescription, or "flying blind?"
I am not sure .. Somehow Claire look a bit better with glasses ...^
I donno why .. maybe it makes her look smarter?
Gah, hate to be the nit-picker, but something was throwing me off about panel 1, and at least if I post it it might help anyone else who's thinking "something's not right there". Claire's legs are reflected incorrectly.
ALTERNATIVELY, and I'm surprised nobody's considered this yet, she COULD still be wearing glasses to the wedding, but she took them off in order to get changed and simply hasn't put them back on yet.
Gosh, a lot of this conversation would look a bit silly if that were the case... :P
No, I turn 55 soon. My Icon's from when was 51.
...there is no damn way you're 48.
You look closer to 35-ish...no joke.A recent - as in taken 5 mins ago - webcam picture. Age 54, I turn 55 in a month.
Now can we talk about the impending nuptials please? It's their day, after all, not Marten's, not Claire's, not Veronica's.♫♪♫♪♫♪ IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm the cult of NUPTIALITYYYYYYYYYY ♫♪♫♪♫♪
It's their day, but we don't know them well.Maybe Dad Harder will turn out to be straight and fall for MartenMom. Wouldn't that be a plot TWEEST and ironic reversal!
By all evidence they will be happy together. It's hard to write comedy about happy people.
Gah, hate to be the nit-picker, but something was throwing me off about panel 1, and at least if I post it it might help anyone else who's thinking "something's not right there". Claire's legs are reflected incorrectly.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Dtsx-VGG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Dtsx-VGG0)
You look closer to 35-ish...no joke.A recent - as in taken 5 mins ago - webcam picture. Age 54, I turn 55 in a month.
(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/58793_4908390861039_1866581752_n.jpg)
One thing many Trans and Intersex people get is a bit of clock-reversal from hormones. Extra collagen under the skin too.
Hmmm... time to diet I think, I need to lose some weight.
In looks, I resemble Marigold (though not her figure, darnit). In history, Claire. In personality - Momo, definitely.
Now can we talk about the impending nuptials please? It's their day, after all, not Marten's, not Claire's, not Veronica's.
I was waiting to change in the bathroom.
In mixed company in a standard hotel room the bathroom would be the only sufficiently private place to change clothing.
Looks like we have some tie tying awkwardness. From media experience, that results in either relief if a relative does it, a quick kiss if a wife does it, and sexual tension if a friend does it.
[ ... ] That being said Jeph is having fun with putting MArten and Claire into the stereotypical sexual tension scenarios, probably before he does something else and has his wicked way with us.
I've never actually worn a tie (it was not part of my school uniforms), but I would imagine that tying one on someone else from in front could be a challenge? Claire might have been better to sit Marten in a chair and do it from behind.I had to wear ties. "Professional Image" and all that. Also since boarding school in the UK.
Also I object to the "Four in Hand" being called "cheating", that's the only one I use.Absolutely. While there are certainly plenty of people who disagree, there's a school of thought which holds that the four in hand is actually the most formal tie knot. Fun historical fact: the actual Duke of Windsor did not wear a windsor knot. Rather, he worse a four in hand with a particularly thick tie. If, on the other hand, you'd like an example of an individual who wears a full windsor knot, I offer you Vladamir Putin.
That being said Jeph is having fun with putting MArten and Claire into the stereotypical sexual tension scenarios, probably before he does something else and has his wicked way with us.
Finally, allow me to note that James Bond didn't trust men who wore Windsor knots. He noted in From Russia With Love that it was often the mark of a cad. James. Bond. Game, set, match.
All I can say is, poor Claire. She is trying so hard, and Marten is still oblivious.
New prediction: Marten will figure out he actually does want Claire - about five minutes too late.
Finally, allow me to note that James Bond didn't trust men who wore Windsor knots. He noted in From Russia With Love that it was often the mark of a cad. James. Bond. Game, set, match.
:-D
All I can say is, poor Claire. She is trying so hard, and Marten is still oblivious.
New prediction: Marten will figure out he actually does want Claire - about five minutes too late.
That will be PAINFUL for me to read. PAINFUL.
Technically, it could be explained away as her becoming increasingly embarrassed at her inability to tie the tie despite her confidence.
(Personally, I don't believe that, but it is a rational explanation for what's going on.)
for herself (himself? I'm not sure which gender to use in this context)
I don't see any relationship's "Happy Ever After" causing the end of a comic (or story), since there are so many ways to torpedo a relationship, however happy it may appear to be. That's true in real life, and even more so in fiction where there are any number of possible unusual disruptions that can be introduced that would be too unlikely in reality. In fact, letting a "Happy Ever After" briefly happen before wading in with something to either utterly fubar things, or more subtly cause issues, seems like a perfectly normal way to progress things in fiction.
Seriously though, there's a reason why "happily ever after" comes at the end of a story. I've learned to beware a happy ending that comes too soon - you're just being set up for a tragedy. So we have a choice: Claire and Marten live happily ever after, and QC ends; or they don't, and QC continues to document Marten's tragic love life.Uh....
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.Yeah, I dont think so.
Note (in the second-to-last panel particularly) that while Claire's blushing like crazy, Marten's cheeks are also gaining a little color.
Oh yeah, thats why they killed off Lily and Marshall after they married on "How I met your mother" !And yet you'll note how that show seems bound and determined to avoid introducing the mother until the very end. Despite the title, I know there's a nontrivial portion of the fanbase who would be happy enough to stretch the title a bit, adding in some [and how we fell in love with each other] to it. Protagonist relationships and side character relationships are a bit different.
Presumably the implication is that Claire has tied ties previously for herself, but now having to tie one for someone else, and from the wrong perspective, is what's confused her. I take that red face as relating to frustration rather than embarrassment at being too close to Marten.
Everyone has to wear tie and suit at the formal graduation ceremony at German "Gymnasium"s.
In my native subculture at least, correcting a man's clothing is something expected of a wife.Which native subculture is that, if I may ask?
But seriously, you young dudes. It is not that difficult to make something passable. Practice - don't just keep that one tie unknotted in your closet. You know, the one your mother tied the knot for you for your high school graduation party.
Poor girl is head over heels for Marten, I suspect. (Hell, she might've been attracted to him quite early on, and that's why she came out to him.)I was under the impression at the time that she wanted to kiss him when she was sitting on the dock with him. But decided to do (the risk-adverse thing) and tell him that she was trans first. Which is a really smart idea, considering the sheer volume of transsexuals murdered for getting into relationships with guys who don't know they are trans. It doesn't hurt to practice cautionary discretion to avoid potentially dangerous situations.
(Though honestly, you can manage formal without ties nowadays, the times change, my dad almost never wears them and he goes to church and wears suits constantly)
This really depends where you are, and what you mean by "formal". For me, formal dress for men involves bow ties, never mind ties. Ties are required at the twice-weekly formal dinners and a fair few people wear them to lectures in my faculty (but they are aspiring lawyers so that may not be a representative sample). I can't even imagine anyone turning up to a job interview not wearing a tie.If I go to the UK and hire you as my driver, I shall wear a tie, and a suit, and sit in the back seat.
Odds of Claire passing out at some point, from hypothermia or otherwise? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1313)https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/304533572100976641 (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/304533572100976641)
If I go to the UK and hire you as my driver, I shall wear a tie, and a suit, and sit in the back seat.I'm not sure where that came from.
I was under the impression at the time that she wanted to kiss him when she was sitting on the dock with him. But decided to do (the risk-adverse thing) and tell him that she was trans first. Which is a really smart idea, considering the sheer volume of transsexuals murdered for getting into relationships with guys who don't know they are trans. It doesn't hurt to practice cautionary discretion to avoid potentially dangerous situations.
Murder is not okay. :psyduck:
See, this is what I like about Martin. He's not the sort of person to murder a girl outta rage because she has a penis. And that is the most important milestone for measuring morality by.
I can't even imagine anyone turning up to a job interview not wearing a tie.
Seriously though, there's a reason why "happily ever after" comes at the end of a story. I've learned to beware a happy ending that comes too soon - you're just being set up for a tragedy. So we have a choice: Claire and Marten live happily ever after, and QC ends; or they don't, and QC continues to document Marten's tragic love life.Uh....
Oh yeah, thats why they killed off Lily and Marshall after they married on "How I met your mother" !
And the Prince Valiant story ended after he married Aleta.
Oh wait, neither of these things happened. So there might actually be life after marriage ! Who would have guessed.
I dont see any problem with Marten getting into a stable relationship. He was in one for hundreds of comics with Dora.QuoteWarning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.Yeah, I dont think so.
A running tease with Barmymoo, who has a better sense of formal wear than many of us.If I go to the UK and hire you as my driver, I shall wear a tie, and a suit, and sit in the back seat.I'm not sure where that came from.
Now I know why shipping here was banned.
Now I know why shipping here was banned.
Jeph said (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/304464785733472257);
Cristi said (https://twitter.com/pengraffe/status/304465083155746816).
:-D
If I go to the UK and hire you as my driver, I shall wear a tie, and a suit, and sit in the back seat.
(Though honestly, you can manage formal without ties nowadays, the times change, my dad almost never wears them and he goes to church and wears suits constantly)
This really depends where you are, and what you mean by "formal". For me, formal dress for men involves bow ties, never mind ties. Ties are required at the twice-weekly formal dinners and a fair few people wear them to lectures in my faculty (but they are aspiring lawyers so that may not be a representative sample). I can't even imagine anyone turning up to a job interview not wearing a tie.
I thought they wore robes. Unless I'm thinking of Hogwarts.If I go to the UK and hire you as my driver, I shall wear a tie, and a suit, and sit in the back seat.
Haha no, then I'd have to wear a stupid cap and not speak to you.
I find it quite funny that in the UK, at least, black and white tie dress codes are basically defined by what Oxbridge students wear to balls. According to certain etiquette codes anyway.
I can't even imagine any man turning up to a job interview for a white-collar job not wearing a tie.Fixed that for you. :) I have never worn a tie to a job interview.
Everyone has to wear tie and suit at the formal graduation ceremony at German "Gymnasium"s.Even the girls? I've always thought that ties were perhaps the only item of clothing where men's conventional wardrobe was stupider than women's
Wear a tie to a welding-job interview and you'll be laughed out of the building. :-D
I've never stayed in a hotel where there was an actual closet. Just a clothes rack near the door.
I've never stayed in a hotel where there was an actual closet. Just a clothes rack near the door.
You poor thing. You should try to find hotels that were built before 1980.
How come I didn't remember that Discworld reference? >_< I have failed nerds the world over with my lack of dedication!
Also...*looks over comic*...*yoink!*
I don't think Claire told Marten her secret because she crushes on him. I tend to think that's a silly reason to out such a huge secret. The reason she outed herself to him is because she's seen him around the other interns and his friends enough to know he's a decent enough guy not to make a big deal about it and blab. I don't see how anyone can tie anything romantic into it at all.
Or romantic about the tie thing either...It's only intimiate if the two are into each other. Then again, I've had to have my brother tie my tie for me before. But then, I only know one way and he wanted the groom's ties in a specific way for his wedding.
Now I know why shipping here was banned.
Jeph said (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/304464785733472257);
Cristi said (https://twitter.com/pengraffe/status/304465083155746816).
:-D
How come I didn't remember that Discworld reference? >_< I have failed nerds the world over with my lack of dedication!
Also...*looks over comic*...*yoink!*
Perhaps this should go in the confessions thread, but...what reference?
Everyone has to wear tie and suit at the formal graduation ceremony at German "Gymnasium"s.Even the girls? I've always thought that ties were perhaps the only item of clothing where men's conventional wardrobe was stupider than women's
If you're into etymology then wearing a suit and tie at a Gymnasium is funny.
How come I didn't remember that Discworld reference? >_< I have failed nerds the world over with my lack of dedication!
Also...*looks over comic*...*yoink!*
Perhaps this should go in the confessions thread, but...what reference?
Even the girls? I've always thought that ties were perhaps the only item of clothing where men's conventional wardrobe was stupider than women'sQuoted for truth. I feel exactly the same way.
Okay, apparently it also doubles as half a reference to They Might Be GiantsAs opposed to "We're Definitely Dwarves".
I've never stayed in a hotel where there was an actual closet. Just a clothes rack near the door.
You poor thing. You should try to find hotels that were built before 1980.
or spend a tad bit more money...
Sometimes spending more =/= better accommodations. For example, one hotel i'd go to on vacation is nearby a Walmart, a large shopping center, a transit hub, and a few other perks, whereas the hotels in the more touristy areas are smashed together and the nearest market/shop is overpriced and limited.
I could guess that a bed and breakfast or resort type place would be different though.B&B's typically are crafted out of what was once a home, so closets are a natural accomodation. Which reminds me, if you're ever in the New Hampshire/Vermont area, you HAVE TO stay at Adair (http://www.adairinn.com/). No excuses, you must enjoy the splendid serenity that it is. We went for our first anniversary, stayed three nights...AWESOME EVERYTHING. Especially the tea. (FYI we stayed in the LaFayette Room...not all of them are quite that expensive).
Marten is blushing too. I just noticed.....heeeeehehehehe....
I don't think Claire told Marten her secret because she crushes on him. I tend to think that's a silly reason to out such a huge secret. The reason she outed herself to him is because she's seen him around the other interns and his friends enough to know he's a decent enough guy not to make a big deal about it and blab.
Okay, apparently it also doubles as half a reference to They Might Be GiantsAs opposed to "We're Definitely Dwarves".
I don't think Claire told Marten her secret because she crushes on him. I tend to think that's a silly reason to out such a huge secret. The reason she outed herself to him is because she's seen him around the other interns and his friends enough to know he's a decent enough guy not to make a big deal about it and blab.Did anyone think that she think that she told him because she was attracted to him instead of just feeling able to trust him?
Ehm...didn't Claire have a little overbite? :psyduck:I think she still does have a tiny overbite, in the 4th panel.
Don't you mean happy batter?
Also goes by the name euphoria fluid
In the comic with Hannelore passing out that was linked. "Millennium Hand and Shrimp" is a catchphrase of one of the recurring characters, essentially.
Oh, and the book you're looking for is "Reaper Man".
Other times I've just crashed at a friend's/family's place or camped out in my tent/car.
What I really want to know is, were Jeph and Cristi bouncing "ideas" off each other for this strip? You know, to make it as realistic as possible? :evil:
We have free-standing wardrobes and sometimes built-in wardrobes, but not actual rooms you can walk into,
Holy crap...
I was laughing while reading the comics. Which is a bit problematic, considering my students were having a test. They were quite astonished to see me laughing while they were at work.
Closets really aren't common in the UK, and I don't think I've seen them in Europe in general. We have free-standing wardrobes and sometimes built-in wardrobes, but not actual rooms you can walk into, I've only seen those in the US.Not in general, I agree, but me and my wife moved to a new house a few months ago, and we converted one room into a large closet for all our clothes as there was way too few wardrobes in the house.
Closets really aren't common in the UK, and I don't think I've seen them in Europe in general. We have free-standing wardrobes and sometimes built-in wardrobes, but not actual rooms you can walk into, I've only seen those in the US.
Wait, which of them gets paid for sex acts again? :psyduck:
Is that his dad or his mom's sister? I suppose we'll find out next week.
If they're both in the sexy time business as implied, and they are actual sisters and not just sisters-in-law...
Bugrit.Oh, and the book you're looking for is "Reaper Man".
Why Reaper Man specifically? The not-Beggars are in most of the books, at least most of the books set in Ankh-Morpork.
Hey, I'm new here (to the forums not the comic, been reading for years now) and must say I loved the new comic, I wonder if that is her sister or in-law, if it is her sister then it'll be even funnier and why is there so much hating on ties going on? I personally love ties (Though I don't really ever have a reason to wear one), I did hate them back when i was forced to wear them for school but that might be because the colours was ugly as sin.
I hope you pointed out to them that you were laughing at their misfortune?
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QuoteI hope you pointed out to them that you were laughing at their misfortune?
Actually, no, I aid I was laughing about veneral diseases. They were quite puzzled. I also pointed out that in German (the language I teach), veneral diseases are called Franzosen (Frenchmen).
In any case, Claire is slowly getting immune to blushing: being in the middle of a verbal sparring match revolving around sexual diseases would be blush worthy.
I'm guessing that Jane is Henry's sister, therefore Veronica's ex-sister-in-law. Just a guess, though. And it sounds to me like Jane isn't in the business, just... an enthusiastic amateur, shall we say.The nose gives it away, methinks. Compare Jane to Henry back in 2383 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383). There's a family similarity.
Also, why Discworld specifically? "Millenium hand and shrimp" and "bugrit" also appear in the Johny Maxwell series. I think it was Mrs. Tachyon. She definitely uses it in at least Johny and the Bomb, and I think it was a vague plot hint.
Martin reconciles with, marries, and impregnates Dora only to later realize he is gay. The child grows up, moves across the country for a girl, and befriends a sassy young lady and her assertive boss.There's a time warp somewhere between California and Massachusetts. Veronica and Henry are in fact older versions of Dora and Marten who, being aware of the time warp, have changed their names to keep the younger versions of Dora and Marten from finding out. Marten is in fact his own father. At the wedding reception, Henry will reveal the secret to all by singing the song "I'm My Own Grandpa." :psyduck:
:psyduck:
Time is cyclical. I can see the fabric of the universe.
Martin reconciles with, marries, and impregnates Dora only to later realize he is gay. The child grows up, moves across the country for a girl, and befriends a sassy young lady and her assertive boss.There's a time warp somewhere between California and Massachusetts. Veronica and Henry are in fact older versions of Dora and Marten who, being aware of the time warp, have changed their names to keep the younger versions of Dora and Marten from finding out. Marten is in fact his own father. At the wedding reception, Henry will reveal the secret to all by singing the song "I'm My Own Grandpa." :psyduck:
:psyduck:
Time is cyclical. I can see the fabric of the universe.
Martin reconciles with, marries, and impregnates Dora only to later realize he is gay. The child grows up, moves across the country for a girl, and befriends a sassy young lady and her assertive boss.There's a time warp somewhere between California and Massachusetts.
:psyduck:
Time is cyclical. I can see the fabric of the universe.
You have to assume that Jane (or Janet) is probably intentionally calling her "Vicky" instead of "Veronica" or even "Ronnie".
See, the problem with that she goes by both Veronica Vance and Veronica Reed, which would mean that she only changed her last name for her nom de porn. That doesn't mean she doesn't go by Vicky now and again, nicknames don't always make sense. (Seriously, how the hell is Peggy short for Margaret?)
I'd make a prediction for what will happen the next time IDUHG puts up a frame of Dora and Faye for the caption contest, but you can all predict what my prediction will be ...
As soon as Jane shows up, a gun appears in the background. Is it Checkov's gun?
As soon as Jane shows up, a gun appears in the background. Is it Checkov's gun?
Who?
Wait, did I seriously just miss a Star Trek reference? If I did I'm gonna kick myself...
If you see a play where a gun is shown to be on the wall in Act II, it is sure to be fired by Act V.
As soon as Jane shows up, a gun appears in the background. Is it Checkov's gun?
Latest comic gives us another instance of two characters with the same name (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253)...
Latest comic gives us another instance of two characters with the same name (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253)...
Since "Vicky" is addressed to Veronica in the latest strip, that thought leads to a weird place.
Okay, going with the time warp story... the Vicky that Marten dated was an younger version of Dora, with her hair dyed brown instead of black. The Vicky that appeared at Coffee of Doom and got the milk thrown at her was a fake planted by Raven (the Chessmaster) to confuse Marten. And so this whole thing is basically Raven being cruel to Marten in retaliation for him and Faye making fun of her when she worked at Hot Topic.Latest comic gives us another instance of two characters with the same name (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253)...
Since "Vicky" is addressed to Veronica in the latest strip, that thought leads to a weird place.
I would've recommended this (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Chekhov%27s+gun).
And I'm thinking "old friend" aunt. Relatives that talk to each other like that aren't usually friendly...
But why would an old friend of Veronica's be invited to this wedding? - I find it strange enough (based on related experience!) that Veronica has been.That's why I think if it's a friend, it's a friend that met them while they were a couple, who Veronica kept in touch with after the divorce but hasn't seen since.
No apology needed. It's probably the best comedy series ever written IMHO.See, the problem with that she goes by both Veronica Vance and Veronica Reed, which would mean that she only changed her last name for her nom de porn. That doesn't mean she doesn't go by Vicky now and again, nicknames don't always make sense. (Seriously, how the hell is Peggy short for Margaret?)
In the same way "Kate" is short for "Bob", I assume. :-D
Apologies for the Black Adder joke, I'll try to behave...
I've only seen the third series, so I didn't get that one (and if that was third series it's been nearly a decade), so I may have missed that one. I should watch the whole bit, it's all on Netflix.
As soon as Jane shows up, a gun appears in the background. Is it Checkov's gun?
I've only seen the third series, so I didn't get that one (and if that was third series it's been nearly a decade), so I may have missed that one. I should watch the whole bit, it's all on Netflix.
I've only seen the third series, so I didn't get that one (and if that was third series it's been nearly a decade), so I may have missed that one. I should watch the whole bit, it's all on Netflix.
That and it has given me one of favourite lines, "Rhymes with 'clucking bell'."
Actually, when you consider it, that final scene in Blackadder Goes Forth is really rather poignant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssPqRWx9U0
Actually, when you consider it, that final scene in Blackadder Goes Forth is really rather poignant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fssPqRWx9U0
Guys, this isn't a Blackadder thread, please stop spoiling the last episode :psyduck:
"Thank God! We lived through it! The Great War, 1914 to 1917.."Yes.
I've cried every time I've sat down and watched that episode. That one number says so much.
Presumably there's an implication that Captain Blackadder and Private Baldrick survived, because some of the Blackadder specials have been set in the present, and both (in their current incarnations) are present which suggests that they must have survived to procreate and generate some sort of succession.
My Grandad Brain
I don't think you can make that assumption - the first Black Adder did certainly not have any children, after all.
My Grandad Brain
Was that a typo of Brian, or was he really named Brain?
"...the same thing we do every night, Pinky..."
My Grandad Brain
Was that a typo of Brian, or was he really named Brain?
"...the same thing we do every night, Pinky..."
This thread refuses to die. :psyduck: