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Title: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Mar 2013, 06:10
So we start the first week of Henry and Maurice's wedded bliss...

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2401 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aethien on 10 Mar 2013, 06:33
Drunken shenanigans, big mistakes and pillow talk by Henry and Maurice.

Possibly in that order too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2401 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 10 Mar 2013, 06:41
So we start the first week of Henry and Maurice's wedded bliss...

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Do you really need to ask?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2401 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Mar 2013, 08:08
So we start the first week of Henry and Maurice's wedded bliss...

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
Do you really need to ask?
Well, it's for the poll's sake...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2401 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Mar 2013, 12:16
Marten exposed to family dynamics may show some sides of his personality that we've only glimpsed before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2401 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 10 Mar 2013, 15:13
There is possibly, just slightly possibly, a chance of a combination of "Claire's awkward moments" and "someone hits on Marten".
But then again, I don't really know how real life would work in these situations until after Jeph has drawn it. :P


Quote from: Jeph on Twitter
I’m not going to watch Strip Search, because I hate reality TV
Any other opinions I might have of it are moot because of that
Although I will be mad if Erika Moen doesn’t win because she is a sweetie

Aw. :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2401 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Mar 2013, 15:22
Strip Search?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aethien on 10 Mar 2013, 17:04
Strip Search?
Penny Arcade's Next Top Model Pop star Top Chef Webcomic Artist.


Edit: Cause they're searching for a good strip. geddit? geddit?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 10 Mar 2013, 20:09
<offkeyrimshot followed by an audience groan>

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 10 Mar 2013, 20:46
I would like to modify my vote slightly: Marten gets hit on but he absolutely fails to realize it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 10 Mar 2013, 23:27
I LOVE IT. ;D

Though... not in real life. Please, nobody do this in real life. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 10 Mar 2013, 23:28
WWF: Wedding Edition
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 10 Mar 2013, 23:28
HAAAAAH. New comic up...totally worth it.

Quote
While you were replying, someone made a move on your date. Good job, jackass, now she's going home with him.

DAMMIT.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 10 Mar 2013, 23:33
It's like watching the dress rehearsals (that we all know exist) for Dr. Phil Jerry Springer...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Mar 2013, 23:34
Oh god, that was SOOOO uncomfortable until the last panel...


 :-D :-D :-D Loved it!   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Mar 2013, 23:38
WWE: Wedding Wrestling Entertainment!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RedWolf4 on 10 Mar 2013, 23:44
*Cackles Madly* Perfect.

I am also somehow reminded of Aunt Penelope's great rant about why a wedding should have an ice sculpture.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 10 Mar 2013, 23:45
<offkeyrimshot followed by an audience groan>



It took the finest minds in both Penny Arcade and LoadingReadyRun to come up with that title. :P

I could ask so many questions about this one. Did Henry and Veronica write that together? Did Maurice and Marten lend a helping hand? Are they actually seriously considering doing this at the reception and trusting that their friends, knowing each other's character, will get the joke? Where's Claire, and what does she think of this aspect of Marten's family dynamics?

But actually, I don't want answers to any of those questions. There don't have to be answers. This can just be a sublimely silly moment in the comic. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 11 Mar 2013, 00:06
Not sure if drama overload...

... or just new take on the term "wedding crashing".


(Get it? 'Cuz there was also a meme-reference in the strip? Eh? Eh?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aethien on 11 Mar 2013, 02:52
I'm claiming a hit on the drunken shenanigans part I predicted earlier. Only one out of four may be inebriated but it certainly counts as shenanigans.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 11 Mar 2013, 03:11
Genuinely bought it all the way up to the punchline. Bravo, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 11 Mar 2013, 04:29
Oh god, that was SOOOO uncomfortable until the last panel...


 :-D :-D :-D Loved it!   :mrgreen:

Damn, this would make for one helluva wedding video.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Mar 2013, 04:41
They've really gotten over the divorce if they can joke about it like this.

Messy divorce (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=431)

Marten had some trouble with it (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1511)

Many a true word is spoken in jest (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1512)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Mar 2013, 05:07
Considering the recent revelation of how they met, perhaps the anger of the first few years may have been drug-fueled?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Mar 2013, 05:28
Marten turned out better than you'd expect if his parents had been heavy users during his formative years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Mar 2013, 05:58
See? It's not real. None of it's real. The characters even said so. Painting a lampshade on the fourth wall or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Sword on 11 Mar 2013, 06:20
That was awkward, right up until that last panel. Then an awkward, tentative smile appeared on my face as I tried to figure out what these crazy people were thinkin'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RyanW1019 on 11 Mar 2013, 06:35
Not just drunken shenanigans, carefully planned and rehearsed drunken shenanigans! :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Mar 2013, 07:23
Ahhhh family moments!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Mar 2013, 07:54
You know that the conversation started with, "How could we get the reception video on the top ten on YouTube?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 11 Mar 2013, 08:19
You know that the conversation started with, "How could we get the reception video on the top ten on YouTube?"

At least it didn't start with, "Hold my beer and watch this."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 11 Mar 2013, 08:23
I can see a caption contest on that third panel with Mom grabbing Marten. OOF.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 11 Mar 2013, 08:32
I really love the second panel. I think it's because she looks like she's screaming into her scotch like a microphone. XD

"Hello?! HELLO?! Is this thing on or am I not drunk enough yet?!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 11 Mar 2013, 10:47
reception-trolling... I love it
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jesslc on 11 Mar 2013, 11:09
You know that the conversation started with, "How could we get the reception video on the top ten on YouTube?"

YES


Also, I would like to vote for all of the above on the poll, but sadly someone neglected to include that option. :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Mar 2013, 15:33
WWE: Wedding Wrestling Entertainment!


Well, it is The Big Show       :-D


Nothing like practice to make it all go smoothly 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: riccostar on 11 Mar 2013, 18:12
I was really buying that until Jeph let up the gig, although I voted for more DJ, I really hope we get to see Veronica's life move forward a little here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Mar 2013, 23:24
And with that little speech, we now have confirmation;

Veronica was "best man". 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 11 Mar 2013, 23:25
 Flip the table for happiness, and the tackle becomes a hug  :lol: .

 Also,
The feeeeeeels
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Mar 2013, 23:46
That was seriously touching.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 12 Mar 2013, 00:17
"There are probably kids reading now who weren't born yet in 1998."

 :psyduck:

...they wouldn't be much younger than I was when I started reading.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 12 Mar 2013, 01:25
Yesterday I found out that one of the characters of my favourite childhood anime (a 7 year old girl) is, canonically, born 1989. That makes her older than me. And the anime is still running. And she is still 7.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 12 Mar 2013, 01:38
Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 12 Mar 2013, 02:06
I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....   

Can we tweet that to our #swag friends? 'Cause that's all us youngsters do, you know  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 12 Mar 2013, 02:35
Also,
The feeeeeeels

All the feels.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 12 Mar 2013, 02:43
Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You know you're old, when rather than finding all of your friends are getting married, you find that they're all getting divorced (or having affairs), and occasionally dying. :-(

I think Veronica's previous speech was better, but we were never going to see that in action, it would have just been repetition.  Of course, there's plenty of time for her to get really hammered, and then do a more authentic slightly off script rendition. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 12 Mar 2013, 02:49
On a more serious note, I really liked Veronica here. It redeemed her a bit in my eyes from the whole "Marten Tiberius Reed! Apologize to your friends!" ordeal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackjoker on 12 Mar 2013, 02:56
On a more serious note, I really liked Veronica here. It redeemed her a bit in my eyes from the whole "Marten Tiberius Reed! Apologize to your friends!" ordeal.

Yeah...though in some ways it only shows that she isn't a total bitch to everyone, just her son when he was at a low point. This does rehabilitate her, but the aforementioned incident still sticks in my craw.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 12 Mar 2013, 04:20
You know what? I think I caught some of The feeeeeeels as well... That was a very nice comic.

Quote from: Maurice, last panel, from comic #2402
D-do I still get to flip the table?
Yes. Yes you can, and do it with pride!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jesslc on 12 Mar 2013, 04:24
Awwwwww...

Love it. So does Marten get to do his embarrassing speech next, or has he forgotten about it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 04:33
Yesterday I found out that one of the characters of my favourite childhood anime (a 7 year old girl) is, canonically, born 1989. That makes her older than me. And the anime is still running. And she is still 7.
Psh, that's nothing. Bart Simpson was born in 1979...and he's still 10. Hell, even Maggie's a year older, and she's still one!

And of course, awwwww to the comic  :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 12 Mar 2013, 04:34
Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You, myself and Paul can just stand over here and sip our drinks, watch the youngsters make fools of themselves the way we used to, and remind them to stay the hell off our lawns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 12 Mar 2013, 05:25
Feels for reals!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Black Sword on 12 Mar 2013, 06:36
On a more serious note, I really liked Veronica here. It redeemed her a bit in my eyes from the whole "Marten Tiberius Reed! Apologize to your friends!" ordeal.

Yeah...though in some ways it only shows that she isn't a total bitch to everyone, just her son when he was at a low point. This does rehabilitate her, but the aforementioned incident still sticks in my craw.

Did neither of you ever get tough love or something? Were I behaving a quarter as bad as Marten was in that strip, my mother would have euthanized me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Random832 on 12 Mar 2013, 06:39
Yesterday I found out that one of the characters of my favourite childhood anime (a 7 year old girl) is, canonically, born 1989. That makes her older than me. And the anime is still running. And she is still 7.

You think you've got problems, imagine how everyone else feels reading someone born the 90s having a "that makes me feel old" moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 06:52
On a more serious note, I really liked Veronica here. It redeemed her a bit in my eyes from the whole "Marten Tiberius Reed! Apologize to your friends!" ordeal.

Yeah...though in some ways it only shows that she isn't a total bitch to everyone, just her son when he was at a low point. This does rehabilitate her, but the aforementioned incident still sticks in my craw.

Did neither of you ever get tough love or something? Were I behaving a quarter as bad as Marten was in that strip, my mother would have euthanized me.
How could that be interpreted as Marten behaving bad? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Mar 2013, 07:37
What are YOU looking forward to seeing at this reception?

More of that German DJ!    5 (10%)
Seeing if Mom actually does find anyone at the reception.    9 (18%)
Someone known by (or actually IS) one of the rest of the cast shows up!    3 (6%)
More pics for Aunt Jen's "website"!    2 (4%)
Claire's awkward moments!    13 (26%)
Someone hits on Marten - and Marten has ZERO interest!    7 (14%)
New character introduction!    3 (6%)
JAWOQC (Just Another Week Of Questionable Content)    3 (6%)
Waffles!    0 (0%)
Spathe Ham!    1 (2%)
Screw the memes - is the new comic up yet? (F5) Is the new comic up yet? (F5)...    3 (6%)
WWE: Wedding Wrestling Entertainment!    1 (2%)
ALL THE FEELS!    0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 50
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 12 Mar 2013, 07:42
On a more serious note, I really liked Veronica here. It redeemed her a bit in my eyes from the whole "Marten Tiberius Reed! Apologize to your friends!" ordeal.

Yeah...though in some ways it only shows that she isn't a total bitch to everyone, just her son when he was at a low point. This does rehabilitate her, but the aforementioned incident still sticks in my craw.

Did neither of you ever get tough love or something? Were I behaving a quarter as bad as Marten was in that strip, my mother would have euthanized me.
How could that be interpreted as Marten behaving bad? :psyduck:
Mitigating circumstances aside, Marten's words and attitude immediately preceding were those of a petulant teen. Veronica, whatever her faults, was acting like someone who felt she was due a mother's respect.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Mar 2013, 07:43
Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You, myself and Paul can just stand over here and sip our drinks, watch the youngsters make fools of themselves the way we used to, and remind them to stay the hell off our lawns.

Redball and I will join you.

I have to ask though - what is our age order here in the forums? October of 1967 here (and old enough to be some-o yo's daddies).

EDIT: Though I'm not old enough to be Jeph's daddy, thankfully.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 12 Mar 2013, 07:51
September 1940. 

And get off my lawn! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Mar 2013, 08:01
August '46 - but I'm too busy to stand around sipping drinks...  Gotta go, things to do, things to do (just walked dogs in a late lunch break, now back to the office for a meeting about the department websites which I'm taking over technical responsibility for).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 12 Mar 2013, 08:08
[...]which I'm taking over technical responsibility for

Quote
irresponsible adult

*FOREBODE FOREBODE FOREBODE*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Mar 2013, 08:38
Youngin here. 90. But if it makes any of you relics feel better I'm blind as a bat... (till thursday any way) half deaf and my knees and lower legs are jacked up enough I'll probably be walking with a cane before the end of the year.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 12 Mar 2013, 08:45
I should mention that you need to get off my lawn because the band  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo1SlTQzUgo)is coming to play a concert there. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 08:57
August '87 over here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Mar 2013, 09:04
January of '66. Neither old nor young.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 12 Mar 2013, 09:16
Youngin here. 90.

I'm choosing to read that as a literal age rather than a shortened 1990.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 09:23
On a more serious note, I really liked Veronica here. It redeemed her a bit in my eyes from the whole "Marten Tiberius Reed! Apologize to your friends!" ordeal.

Yeah...though in some ways it only shows that she isn't a total bitch to everyone, just her son when he was at a low point. This does rehabilitate her, but the aforementioned incident still sticks in my craw.

Did neither of you ever get tough love or something? Were I behaving a quarter as bad as Marten was in that strip, my mother would have euthanized me.
How could that be interpreted as Marten behaving bad? :psyduck:
Mitigating circumstances aside, Marten's words and attitude immediately preceding were those of a petulant teen. Veronica, whatever her faults, was acting like someone who felt she was due a mother's respect.
Just because she felt that doesn't mean she was due it then. She was out of line and Marten had every right to object, and she was even further out of line for shutting him down.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Mar 2013, 09:27
Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You, myself and Paul can just stand over here and sip our drinks, watch the youngsters make fools of themselves the way we used to, and remind them to stay the hell off our lawns.

Redball and I will join you.

I have to ask though - what is our age order here in the forums? October of 1967 here (and old enough to be some-o yo's daddies).

Count me in - March of '62.  I remember meeting some hippies driving up to Woodstock when I was a kid...

And I think this deserves its own thread somewhere.  Like maybe a "happy birthday" thread.  I'll be 51 in under 2 weeks. 

Kugai, I know you're the same year as me...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Mar 2013, 09:31
Quote
Tunnel snipping
Just because she felt that doesn't mean she was due it then. She was out of line and Marten had every right to object, and she was even further out of line for shutting him down.

Even the worst parents feel respect is owed.  Sometimes, the worse the parent is, the nmore they feel that way. 

Out of line or not, she's his mother.  And he's a "good boy", so he'll kowtow.  Family dynamics. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 09:37
I'd say more often, actually. Wouldn't a good parent know that respect has to be earned?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Mar 2013, 09:56
After the most recent fight with my older daughter, I can safely say I wouldn't know. 

 :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 12 Mar 2013, 10:24
Quote
Tunnel snipping
Just because she felt that doesn't mean she was due it then. She was out of line and Marten had every right to object, and she was even further out of line for shutting him down.

Even the worst parents feel respect is owed.  Sometimes, the worse the parent is, the nmore they feel that way. 

Out of line or not, she's his mother.  And he's a "good boy", so he'll kowtow.  Family dynamics.
He's theoretically an adult. I said nothing about whether he should have objected; he had a right to. The manner of his objection was that of a petulant teen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 12 Mar 2013, 10:26
If the older set comes over to my yard, there will be chairs.

A woman I'd like to see more of in Michigan was born two weeks after I graduated from high school. She'll be 58 this summer. Dammit.

And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 12 Mar 2013, 12:08


I have to ask though - what is our age order here in the forums? October of 1967 here (and old enough to be some-o yo's daddies).

EDIT: Though I'm not old enough to be Jeph's daddy, thankfully.

November 1959
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jesslc on 12 Mar 2013, 12:34
March 1984
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Mar 2013, 12:45
Ms. Reed is _so_ lucky Faye wasn't around when she went off on Marten. The Intimidation Field might not have protected her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 12 Mar 2013, 13:21
The Intimidation Field might work, even on the Peach. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1841) But you're right; a direct attack on Faye might be less of a trigger than an attack, real or perceived, on her Indieboy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 12 Mar 2013, 14:25
Out of line or not, she's his mother.  And he's a "good boy", so he'll kowtow.  Family dynamics.
Oh so very much...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackjoker on 12 Mar 2013, 14:55
Quote
Tunnel snipping
Just because she felt that doesn't mean she was due it then. She was out of line and Marten had every right to object, and she was even further out of line for shutting him down.

Even the worst parents feel respect is owed.  Sometimes, the worse the parent is, the nmore they feel that way. 

Out of line or not, she's his mother.  And he's a "good boy", so he'll kowtow.  Family dynamics.
He's theoretically an adult. I said nothing about whether he should have objected; he had a right to. The manner of his objection was that of a petulant teen.

Of course, what right did he have to stand up to her? He should have just let her keep rolling over him. His mother KNEW he was at a low point. He didn't ask her to come, she insisted. She then spent almost all her time there insulting and embarassing him, but decided to sneak off to hug and comfort Dora. The only petulant one would be her, Marten finally told her enough was enough and she decided to smack him down publically, and honestly Marten also should have called out his so called friends for not saying anything during that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 15:01
^This
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 12 Mar 2013, 15:44
Maybe something to the effect of, "I'm sorry, I didn't realize motherhood not only endowed you with the power to publicly emasculate me as much as you like but also affords you diplomatic immunity as a shield against any subsequent fallout. I'll just run any future social visits you have planned by my lawyer first to make sure I won't be overstepping my bounds when I don't feel like taking your shit again."

...nah, went too far into the rights allegory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 12 Mar 2013, 16:24
And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.

I only know Zoe is since it's been brought up elsewhere. :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 12 Mar 2013, 16:42

Of course, what right did he have to stand up to her? He should have just let her keep rolling over him.
(moderator here: I changed a broken quote tag and will fix it again if I got it wrong)
No, that's exactly the opposite of what I said.
I said Marten had a right to stand up to her. The tone of his response -- the eyeroll, the "let's lock you in your hotel room before you can embarass me further ..." -- those are the words and manner of someone not yet an adult, no matter what the calendar says. You have this conversation in private, maybe even beforehand if you have the forethought to anticipate it (he had fair warning if from nothing more than VV showing up despite his objections) even if only to avoid a public backfire. As someone said upthread, respect is earned.
Responses such as those suggested only cement the idea you can still be addressed as a pre-adult.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 12 Mar 2013, 17:05
Damn!

I was looking forward to the Tables, Ladders and Chairs match     :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 17:09
You have this conversation in private, maybe even beforehand if you have the forethought to anticipate it (he had fair warning if from nothing more than VV showing up despite his objections) even if only to avoid a public backfire.
Veronica left lunch with Marten and his friends to go talk to Dora, which is what he was reacting to when he found out, IIRC. Also, he has no way of knowing this, but it's kind of annoying that she bent over backwards to try and make Dora felt comfortable with the whole conversation, but she didn't extend that courtesy to her own son. Yes, Marten could have responded more maturely, but she shouldn't have put him in the position where he had to respond at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Mar 2013, 18:01
Her level of understanding, despite what her intentions may have been, was minimal at best. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Mar 2013, 18:08
I think she may have realized, after the fact, that she'd screwed up in dealing with Marten. Then again, it seems that is her strong suit: hindsight.


(Enter Goatse joke here.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Mar 2013, 18:08
My hovercraft is full of feels!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 12 Mar 2013, 19:23
Quote from: MartenMom
I think we can all agree that marriage is about love.

Someone's never read Tolstoy.

Quote from: War & Peace
Never, never marry, my friend. Here’s my advice to you: don’t marry until you can tell yourself that you’ve done all you could, and until you’ve stopped loving the woman you’ve chosen, until you see her clearly, otherwise you’ll be cruelly and irremediably mistaken. Marry when you’re old and good for nothing…Otherwise all that’s good and lofty in you will be lost.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 12 Mar 2013, 19:26
My hovercraft is full of feels!

My Lovercraft is full of.. OH GODS WHAT THE HELL IS THAT

Someone's never read Tolstoy.

Quote from: War & Peace
Never, never marry, my friend. Here’s my advice to you: don’t marry until you can tell yourself that you’ve done all you could, and until you’ve stopped loving the woman you’ve chosen, until you see her clearly, otherwise you’ll be cruelly and irremediably mistaken. Marry when you’re old and good for nothing…Otherwise all that’s good and lofty in you will be lost.

Reminds me of the Iliad: "Ah, to have never married; and childless died!".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 12 Mar 2013, 19:47
My hovercraft is full of feels!

+1 would pun again
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 12 Mar 2013, 20:38
Well, that was quite the speech. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 20:58
Good job speech. Good Marten. Yes. Thanks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Mar 2013, 21:05
Marten DID (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1518) ask to make an embarrassing speech at the reception, he just didn't say who would be embarrassed. :p
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Epic on 12 Mar 2013, 21:23
Best Claire expression.
(click to show/hide)

(http://puu.sh/2gPCp)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 12 Mar 2013, 21:32
(http://puu.sh/2gPCp)

"Perhaps you would have us climb a tree!" (http://youtu.be/oGvGGyLn9Os)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 12 Mar 2013, 21:50
1) I have given speeches like that before.  Public speaking on about ten seconds' notice just does NOT work with some people.
2) Claire is definitely growing as a character.  Over the course of this weekend, she has shared a room with Marten, met and accepted his family, (attempted to) fix his clothing, and is now ribbing him like it's old hat.  By the end of this arc, she will have either agreed to go on a date with Marten or will have permanently and irrevocably earned her stripes in his circle of friends.  There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Ph2 on 12 Mar 2013, 21:57
Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

And that is a mighty fine Claire expression there. Suaving it up a bit, perhaps it's the whiskey's fault.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jmucchiello on 12 Mar 2013, 22:01
Best Claire expression.
(click to show/hide)
I was about to post that too. Great expression and a great look for her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 12 Mar 2013, 22:16
LOVED Claire calling Marten "Cicero". A very apt sarcastic comparison. ;D

Mind you, scaring off bullies (like Verres, for those of you who know your Cicero) with words isn't really Marten's style.
What IS his style for scaring off bullies?
... Sadly, probably the "Steve Rogers pre-Captain-America" method. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 22:32
There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
This is true. Gotta be honest, I didn't expect Claire to be the intern to make the leap from intern to main cast, but it looks like she has.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 12 Mar 2013, 22:43
Reading today's comic was like listening to me speak in public.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Mar 2013, 22:59
There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
This is true. Gotta be honest, I didn't expect Claire to be the intern to make the leap from intern to main cast, but it looks like she has.

So it's um......erm....uh....that other chick's turn after this arc? Like that one daughter in Downton Abbey. Um.....er.......Ethel? Elizabeth?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Mar 2013, 23:01
Gabby? Probably not. I mean, she and Emily will still show up, but they'll probably be side characters, maybe Steve/Cosette level or so.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 12 Mar 2013, 23:15
Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

 :psyduck:

O tempora!  O mores!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 12 Mar 2013, 23:24
Oh Mighty Netram Deer, Great Orator of our time, please to humble us with the wordmaking of the mouth-thoughts. Jah.

And Ostriches. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mharris on 12 Mar 2013, 23:26
this may have aleady of been brought up. sorry if it has. but is Henry's husband Marten's old boss? He looks just like him anyway....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 12 Mar 2013, 23:32
this may have aleady of been brought up. sorry if it has. but is Henry's husband Marten's old boss? He looks just like him anyway....

 No, they have different names.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 12 Mar 2013, 23:35
LOVED Claire calling Marten "Cicero". A very apt sarcastic comparison. ;D

Mind you, scaring off bullies (like Verres, for those of you who know your Cicero) with words isn't really Marten's style.
What IS his style for scaring off bullies?
... Sadly, probably the "Steve Rogers pre-Captain-America" method. :P

Yep, the old "face to the fists" method (victim's face to bullies' fists) - applied repeatedly. As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 12 Mar 2013, 23:40
As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

There's another "impromptu" method that tends to work well...at least for some people. It's called "alcohol." ;D

COME ON MARTEN GET DRUNK ALREADY :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 12 Mar 2013, 23:47
And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.
March 1958 here.

Recent photo

(http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/58793_4908390861039_1866581752_n.jpg)

It heartens me that my students have expressions of disbelief when I tell them my age.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 12 Mar 2013, 23:51
Could have gone with:

Quote
MAWWAGE! Mawwage is what bwings us togevvah today!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 13 Mar 2013, 00:01
As to the "speech", well, Marten could really use a Toastmasters course. Their "Impromptu" speech section deals with having to make a speech on short notice.

There's another "impromptu" method that tends to work well...at least for some people. It's called "alcohol." ;D

COME ON MARTEN GET DRUNK ALREADY :mrgreen:

I was about to disagree with you, then I went back and read the comic again. Yeah, Marten could not have done any worse being drunk. At least he might have gotten more words out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 00:08
Cicero is widely misquoted, by the way. He was actually exclaiming with delight when a Japanese restaurant served him batter-fried eels.

"Oh, tempura! Oh, morays!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Mar 2013, 00:09
Yeah, Marten could not have done any worse being drunk. At least he might have gotten more words out.
I thought less was more here. I'm with Veronica on this one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Mar 2013, 00:15
Cicero is widely misquoted, by the way. He was actually exclaiming with delight when a Japanese restaurant served him batter-fried eels.

"Oh, tempura! Oh, morays!"
I thought they accidentally brought him fish. "Accidente soles".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 13 Mar 2013, 00:19
I used to annoy the hell out of a particular bartender by insisting on calling Tullamore Dew "the Great Orator."

It was after I'd heard it abbreviated enough times as "Tully."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 13 Mar 2013, 00:46

What IS his style for scaring off bullies?


Stop sign to the head (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=721). Or sword (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1902), as the case may be.

Could have gone with:

Quote
MAWWAGE! Mawwage is what bwings us togevvah today!

I instantly thought that as well.


Anyway, Marten should have really prepared a speech. Maybe not prepared in full, but something to say. I mean he could have expected people wanted him to speak, him being the presumably closest blood relative. Unless the unnamed uncle (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2378) is Henry's brother.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Mar 2013, 01:24
Stop sign to the head (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=721). Or sword (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1902), as the case may be.

Hey, give him credit for the soufflé pan (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=697)!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 13 Mar 2013, 02:05
ANYWAY. Ma-mawwiage! Yes! Twu wuv!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 13 Mar 2013, 03:12
His speech could have been worse. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1517)

Sadly, Marten, I know the feeling. Public speaking, polite conversation... although witty banter does still function sometimes.

And, from before, I'm a comparative young-un. June of '83.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 13 Mar 2013, 04:16
You know, if he had pulled out the Princess Bride he definitely could have saved that speech I think

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk277/Teutonic_Knight_Funnay/tumblr_m5rewytGB91qde2kgo1_500_zpsc0cad2a4.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 13 Mar 2013, 04:20
Dang.  Some of you people are YOUNG.    :-D

I'm going to sit over here and slowly wrinkle....

You, myself and Paul can just stand over here and sip our drinks, watch the youngsters make fools of themselves the way we used to, and remind them to stay the hell off our lawns.

Redball and I will join you.

I have to ask though - what is our age order here in the forums? October of 1967 here (and old enough to be some-o yo's daddies).

EDIT: Though I'm not old enough to be Jeph's daddy, thankfully.

Feb of '69.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Mar 2013, 05:28
NB - people putting their ages, note the poll in the 'Hi I'm New' forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 13 Mar 2013, 05:31
Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

 :psyduck:

O tempora!  O mores!

Lorem ipsum consectetur!

Sept 53. And really disappointed that I'm not the oldest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 13 Mar 2013, 06:38
I approve of saucy Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RedWolf4 on 13 Mar 2013, 07:18
I dunno about saucy, but slightly suave snarker Claire is very nice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Mar 2013, 07:23
CLAIRE has LEVELED UP!

CLAIRE gains SNARK +1!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 13 Mar 2013, 07:54
Agree on Claire looking very sharp in that last panel. I like it. (Generally like that look on women.)
Agree on Claire no longer being "just an intern at Marten's workplace" after this arc. (except when Jeph pulls a Willis and kills her off slightly.)

Damn fine strip today. Although if Marten EVER wants to go on stage and not make a mumbling ass of himself he should learn how to publicly improvise. Jeeez, son, you're not 16 anymore. °O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 13 Mar 2013, 08:24
He works (part time?) at a library and plays in a band. 


He is SO 16. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Mar 2013, 10:06
when Jeph pulls a Willis

BUTTS BUTTS BUTTS!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 13 Mar 2013, 15:58
I recently gave a speech on a few hours notice, with visuals. I heard quacking and babbling in a voice that sounded like mine but was told I did a fine job. I can only conclude most of the drinking was done before I got there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Po1ntBlank on 13 Mar 2013, 16:23
[Snip]  By the end of this arc, she will have either agreed to go on a date with Marten or will have permanently and irrevocably earned her stripes in his circle of friends. [snip]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Claire a trans? So far I'm not entirely sure what that means... for her...

If she has a [EXPUNGED] I don't think Marten would go for it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 13 Mar 2013, 16:37
Hi, I see you're new here!  You might want to read up a bit in some of the other (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28457.0.html) threads (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28499.0.html) about transgendered issues and language usage. 


Meanwhile, enjoy your stay! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 16:38
She's oriented toward men, Marten realizes that it would be unethical to date an intern, and I have learned recently that it is extraordinarily rude to speculate about a real trans person's genitals. We have been invited to practice being polite with Claire even though she's fictional.

Marten is just the sort who would be potentially open-minded, though.

Probably not foreshadowing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1300).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 13 Mar 2013, 16:55
Goddamn, I had to google Cicero.

 :psyduck:

O tempora!  O mores!


Lorem ipsum consectetur!

Sept 53. And really disappointed that I'm not the oldest.

Gopher Tuna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PHidVqh4C8)



Marten, I feel your pain
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 13 Mar 2013, 17:33
If she has a [EXPUNGED] I don't think Marten would go for it.

Subtle. ;)

It's not like transwomen date gay guys, though, so I wouldn't see it being a sure deal-breaker if he fancied her either way. I don't think it's really been explored how open he'd be to that, so we just don't know (and if Jeph goes in that direction then clearly he'd be fine with it). *Shrugs*

Probably not foreshadowing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1300).

If only it was that simple, Marten..  :-P

It's pretty weird to see the assumptions people make about how humans work. I mean, it's not like those hormones are unique to us or anything.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 13 Mar 2013, 18:51
I was thinking along the lines of 18 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 13 Mar 2013, 19:13
Although, there are still other ways for a couple that is opposed to anal sex and incapable of having vaginal sex to have sexual intimacy...

I honestly doubt Marten would be open-minded enough for it, though. And, as Jeph's basically said he doesn't want to write that sort of conflict (I forget the exact wording), I doubt he'll do more than play with the ship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 19:48
I wish you hadn't reminded me of the joke you just reminded me of. It's one that just might gross out Yelling Bird.

Marten may have had some hangups in high school (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=457).

Quote from: a Spider Robinson character
I see fingers and a tongue. Anything else is gravy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Mar 2013, 20:35
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Claire a trans?

(http://www.braininajamjar.co.uk/petunias.jpg)

Claire is indeed transsexual.  A Trans woman. A trans, not so much, that's an unfortunate turn of phrase that may reasonably be seen as dehumanising.
On the other hand, to criticise someone for saying that, unless it's done in the mildest, gentlest and most diplomatic terms, would be even worse.

Oddly, "a transgender" isn't seen as too bad, though again, "a transgender girl" is preferred. "A girl" is better still.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 13 Mar 2013, 20:56
I was thinking along the lines of 18 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18).

I fail to see how the core tenet applies. What sort of barbarian do you take her for?

And I can't say how much time has passed in-universe, but that was written ten years ago (I was still a pre-teen).  :psyduck:

Marten may have had some hangups in high school (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=457).

Drag-queens ≠ Transgender people..

Claire is indeed transsexual.  A Trans woman. A trans, not so much, that's an unfortunate turn of phrase that may reasonably be seen as dehumanising.
On the other hand, to criticise someone for saying that, unless it's done in the mildest, gentlest and most diplomatic terms, would be even worse.

Yeah, I elected to not include a bit on it. It's really more of a grammatical thing. It's an adjective, so it's either "X is black" or "X is a black person", whilst people would look oddly at "X is a black". Just took it as a quirk of typing.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 Mar 2013, 21:02
Careful Dora, Tai might associate your boobs with projectile vomiting. Or possibly a strong sense of regret.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 13 Mar 2013, 21:02
Well, Tai seems upset by all of this. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 13 Mar 2013, 21:09
Tai's a DJ off hours, isn't she? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Po1ntBlank on 13 Mar 2013, 21:18
That feel when you've read the comic within minutes of it coming out, and now you have to wait another 24 hours.

Why can't Jeph release comics hourly?!

(kidding of course)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 13 Mar 2013, 21:31
Boobs are awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 13 Mar 2013, 21:32
Boobs:  the cause of (and solution to) all of life's problems.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Po1ntBlank on 13 Mar 2013, 21:36
Boobs:  the cause of (and solution to) all of life's problems.
I believe you're thinking of alcohol.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 21:40
Tai's a DJ off hours, isn't she? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Your memory is correct (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1511).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aquaisces on 13 Mar 2013, 21:42
Marten would totally be able to deal (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1024)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 13 Mar 2013, 22:03
Boobs:  the cause of (and solution to) all of life's problems.
I believe you're thinking of alcohol.
But boobs are a solid Nos. 2 and 3.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Mar 2013, 23:12
Drag-queens ≠ Transgender people..

Of course.

But if Marten still has a hangup about being flirted with by female-presenting people with MAAB phenotypes it could affect Claire as well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 14 Mar 2013, 00:30
My first thought:
"Well, those can hardly be called boobs, sweety."

Second one:
"What the hell is WRONG with me?!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 14 Mar 2013, 00:38
So, Dora's twin peaches are becoming weapons of mass distraction?
So, I take it Ellen Allen is pretty famous, uh?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 14 Mar 2013, 00:51
So, I take it Ellen Allen is pretty famous, uh?

I think the expression "widely known within small circles" applies.

I don't think we have ever seen Dora's cleavage before, have we?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 14 Mar 2013, 00:52
On multiple occasions actually. But my archive-fu is hindered by my work-fu.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisa1 on 14 Mar 2013, 00:58
So, I take it Ellen Allen is pretty famous, uh?

I think the expression "widely known within small circles" applies.

I believe it's Ellen *Allien*.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Allien
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 14 Mar 2013, 01:01
So, I take it Ellen Allen is pretty famous, uh?

I think the expression "widely known within small circles" applies.

I believe it's Ellen *Allien*.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellen_Allien

Indeed it is. And as Loki suggests, she is a major name in a (fairly) small world.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 14 Mar 2013, 01:02
Also, http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=802 implies Tai's a fan.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LovelyAngel on 14 Mar 2013, 01:04
And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.

February 1955. But I don't visit the forum very often (hence my being late to this age-rank discussion)

I think I'm a member of Zoe's Club (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28754.msg1137493.html#msg1137493). Photo from my 58th birthday last month:

(http://lovelyangel.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v82/p1452192964-2.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Mar 2013, 01:21
Edit: Posted without actually typing anything...

Any way! Comic! The last Questionable Content Comic I will see with my current eyes! And it has Doraboobs, that's gotta be a good omen right?

Re: Yesterday's comic, I'm kinda disappointed that Marten didn't break into the Princess Bridge "Mawwage" speech when he BSOD'd out, and snark Claire has won my heart all over again!

On to the age discussion! I posted an old dress blues photo before at one point

Me now:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/178949_10151317937205815_676626954_n.jpg)

I feel really... young all of the sudden around here. If it makes y'all feel better, I'll probably be walking with a cane by the end of the year thanks to some knee damage I picked up while I was in.

Fun fact: The Irish whiskey I'm drinking is old enough to order it's own whiskey... actually it's exactly my age. Knappogue castle used to bottle their booze by vintage like wine. The 1990 bottle I had cost more then I like to think about... but my goddess of sea and sky... cannot even describe the deliciousness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Oglokoog on 14 Mar 2013, 02:10
Also, http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=802 implies Tai's a fan.

Fizheuer Zieheuer is an excellent track, by the way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BryanP on 14 Mar 2013, 02:17
And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.

February 1955. But I don't visit the forum very often (hence my being late to this age-rank discussion)

I think I'm a member of Zoe's Club (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28754.msg1137493.html#msg1137493). Photo from my 58th birthday last month:

(http://lovelyangel.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v82/p1452192964-2.jpg)

Very nice picture. I figured I was one of the oldest people here at 44. LovelyAngel, eh?  Say hi to Kei & Yuri.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 14 Mar 2013, 02:24
My first thought was "wait, why are Dora and Tai in bed together?" then I remembered "oh yeah, they're dating now. I'd forgotten that."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 14 Mar 2013, 02:28


On to the age discussion! I posted an old dress blues photo before at one point

Me now:

--snip--

Why are you Iron Man?

All the best for your surgery!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Mar 2013, 02:39


On to the age discussion! I posted an old dress blues photo before at one point

Me now:

--snip--

Why are you Iron Man?

All the best for your surgery!

It's my night job! Actually it was a costume test for Denver Comic Con.

Thank you for the well wishes. I hope to see you all again shortly. Depending on how fast my eyes heal up I might even still be on narcotic pain killers, and that could be highly amusing for everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 14 Mar 2013, 02:58
Inappropiate Metal Horns FTW... It works perfectly to show off something to a friend, specially if he/she is likes that particular something/someone more than you do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 14 Mar 2013, 04:31
I think i had the same reaction when a friend did this to me, but no boobs to make up for it :( .  Long and short of it, I'm a historian.  I specialize in WWII small arms and weaponry.  Have actually loaned a few pieces of my collection to the History channel and Hollywood (Sparingly, they don't treat them as well as History Channel does) 

I was supposed to do a firing test on a new acquisition with a buddy of mine at my county run range but got called into work.  While sitting at my desk going over some rather boring notes and to make sure everything was normal with a study that was coming up to be published, I get a text from my range partner who had gone on without me.

Him.  Standing with R. Lee Ermey, and a table of some very nice, very rare, and some of my favorite WWII firearms.  Poor Tai, it's going to be so much worse when she runs into Marten and he goes into EXCRUCIATING detail of everything. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LovelyAngel on 14 Mar 2013, 05:00
...LovelyAngel, eh?  Say hi to Kei & Yuri.

Indeed! My LovelyAngel Explanation Page (http://darkshinyobject.com/lovelyangelanime.html).  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Mar 2013, 05:16
My first thought:
"Well, those can hardly be called boobs, sweety."

Second one:
"What the hell is WRONG with me?!"

My first thought: Dora wears her bra to bed?

Yes, I know, Jeph is trying to keep this more-or-less SFW. But still.  :?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 14 Mar 2013, 05:22
Inappropiate Metal Horns FTW...
Yes... I mean, what other hand-gesture would be more appropriate?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 14 Mar 2013, 05:28
My first thought:
"Well, those can hardly be called boobs, sweety."

Second one:
"What the hell is WRONG with me?!"

My first thought: Dora wears her bra to bed?

Yes, I know, Jeph is trying to keep this more-or-less SFW. But still.  :?
I don't think they're "in bed" as in there for sleeping, or even sexytimes, but are instead using it as a couch with built in foot rest because its warmer ad they won't be disturbed by house/flat mates wanting to watch the TV or whatever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 14 Mar 2013, 05:44
My first thought:
"Well, those can hardly be called boobs, sweety."

Second one:
"What the hell is WRONG with me?!"

My first thought: Dora wears her bra to bed?

Yes, I know, Jeph is trying to keep this more-or-less SFW. But still.  :?
I don't think they're "in bed" as in there for sleeping, or even sexytimes, but are instead using it as a couch with built in foot rest because its warmer ad they won't be disturbed by house/flat mates wanting to watch the TV or whatever.

Dora lives by herself these days, I think. But I agree, they do not look like they're "in bed", per se.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HueItzCoatl on 14 Mar 2013, 05:56
I wish more woman were willing to show off there boobs as a means of distraction. The world would be a much better place methinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 14 Mar 2013, 06:26
I don't think they're "in bed" as in there for sleeping, or even sexytimes, but are instead using it as a couch with built in foot rest because its warmer ad they won't be disturbed by house/flat mates wanting to watch the TV or whatever.

I assumed they were doing the "watch a movie together while progressing to snuggling" thing. Dora has a hand on Tai's hip in the first two panels.

Also, can anyone explain the title of the comic to me?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 14 Mar 2013, 06:32
Also, can anyone explain the title of the comic to me?
The "Metal horns" thing that Marten's doing with his hand doesn't quite match with the music of Ellen Allien, which is more of a trance/dance genre.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 14 Mar 2013, 06:34
I don't think they're "in bed" as in there for sleeping, or even sexytimes, but are instead using it as a couch with built in foot rest because its warmer ad they won't be disturbed by house/flat mates wanting to watch the TV or whatever.

I assumed they were doing the "watch a movie together while progressing to snuggling" thing. Dora has a hand on Tai's hip in the first two panels.

Also, can anyone explain the title of the comic to me?

Arrgh! I was gonna answer this, but:

Quote
Warning - while you were reading the universe has suffered heat death. You may wish to review your post.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Mar 2013, 06:43
Quote
Warning - while you were reading the universe has suffered heat death. You may wish to review your post.

Damn. I hate it when that happens.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 14 Mar 2013, 07:00
Inappropiate Metal Horns FTW...
Yes... I mean, what other hand-gesture would be more appropriate?

A wave. No hand gesture. Peace/victory sign. Arm around shoulder. Pointing.

Hand in the air. Jazz hands. Any o' this? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2052) Picking his nose.

Hand in mouth. Hand in pants, furiously masturbating. Man I don't even know anymore...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 14 Mar 2013, 07:16
Inappropiate Metal Horns FTW...
Yes... I mean, what other hand-gesture would be more appropriate?

THIS.
V
V
V
(http://d3na4zxidw1hr4.cloudfront.net/site_media/uploads/images/post/-/-/headcount_colbert_jpg_630x665_q85.jpg)

Insert her head where the iPad is. Yeah, THAT's more appropriate. And totally not creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Mar 2013, 07:21
Boobs:  the cause of (and solution to) all of life's problems.
I believe you're thinking of alcohol.
But boobs are a solid Nos. 2 and 3.
ISWYDT.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Mar 2013, 07:26
Dora lives by herself these days, I think. But I agree, they do not look like they're "in bed", per se.

That does appear to be a bed. It's a headboard, and they do appear to be sitting up and watching a DVD on a laptop... and it appears Tai may have Russian Fingers.

EDIT: And the wandering eyes of Hannelore on the cover of Volume 3 make it creepier.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 14 Mar 2013, 07:30
Dora lives by herself these days, I think. But I agree, they do not look like they're "in bed", per se.

That does appear to be a bed. It's a headboard, and they do appear to be sitting up and watching a DVD on a laptop... and it appears Tai may have Russian Fingers.

Yes, of course, I just mean that they haven't gone to bed in as in preparing to sleep, or whatever. They just use the bed as a seat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Mar 2013, 07:49
And no women on the forum past what? 50 or so? Any guesses might merit a thread over in chatter.

February 1955. But I don't visit the forum very often (hence my being late to this age-rank discussion)

I think I'm a member of Zoe's Club (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28754.msg1137493.html#msg1137493). Photo from my 58th birthday last month:

(http://lovelyangel.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v82/p1452192964-2.jpg)

Better at it than I am too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Mar 2013, 07:55
Boobs are indeed quite awesome and can serve well as distractions for me, but really any well formed part of the female anatomy is awesome.

I am happy to see that things are progressing nicely with Dora and Tai, the two characters who most remind me of myself in different aspects.



And it is June 1985 for me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Mar 2013, 08:03
As someone who doesn't own a couch (or other furniture for that matter) or a tv, I find that the bed makes a nice cozy place to snuggle up to watch a movie. On a laptop.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Mar 2013, 08:03
But if Marten still has a hangup about being flirted with by female-presenting people with MAAB phenotypes it could affect Claire as well.
I can absolutely guarantee that regardless of other factors, a girl who transitioned as young as Claire did has totally female pheremones. You can't look like that otherwise.
Similarly, trans guys, a few days after a T shot, have interesting effects on any straight female that gets within a metre.
Yes, I speak from personal experience, and it's entirely involuntary. Reliably reproducible experimentally too.

On the other hand, I've been reliably informed that Trans guys a few days after a T shot have their own psychological reactions, that some find unsettling at the start of transition. To someone in a state of chronic testosterone starvation, having that relieved leads to a condition that in cis males would be called "blue balls".

Apparently, males are/tend to be more visually oriented, females are/tend to be more smell and taste oriented. Trans women are female-typical neurologically here.
See:
Male-to-female transsexuals show sex-atypical hypothalamus activation when smelling odorous steroids. by Berglund et al Cerebral Cortex 2008 18(8):1900-1908;
Quote
...the data implicate that transsexuality may be associated with sex-atypical physiological responses in specific hypothalamic circuits, possibly as a consequence of a variant neuronal differentiation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Mar 2013, 08:11
And it is June 1985 for me.

...The month I graduated from high school.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Mar 2013, 08:21
Long and short of it, I'm a historian.  I specialize in WWII small arms and weaponry.  Have actually loaned a few pieces of my collection to the History channel and Hollywood (Sparingly, they don't treat them as well as History Channel does)
I must put you in contact with a G/F of mine. Lynette Nusbacher. In a previous incarnation she appeared on many military history programs on the History Channel.

I can still remember the "Immediate Action - Gas Stoppage" drill on the Bren Mk 1. Mk 2 was easier IIRC. Lovely weapon, even I could put all 3 rounds of a burst into a dinnerplate sized target exposed for 5 secs at 200 metres.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Mar 2013, 08:23
Interesting, ZoeB.  I am not trans, but I am totally visually stimulated. But, I am also an artist, so visuals are something I respond to in general.  I am not sure if my keying toward visual stimulation is a result of studying painting or if my predisposition toward the visual arts is a result of my tendency toward visual stimulation. I remember reading somewhere quite some time ago that lesbians tend to have more "male" structured brains, something to do with the release of testosterone during a key point in fetal gestation, but I don't know how much truth there is to that and I can't recall where I read it.

That being said, tastes and smells definitely aid in the arousal process.


jwouk, you are almost as old as my parents would have been if they were still alive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 14 Mar 2013, 08:34
Apparently, males are/tend to be more visually oriented, females are/tend to be more smell and taste oriented. Trans women are female-typical neurologically here.
See:
Male-to-female transsexuals show sex-atypical hypothalamus activation when smelling odorous steroids. by Berglund et al Cerebral Cortex 2008 18(8):1900-1908;
Quote
...the data implicate that transsexuality may be associated with sex-atypical physiological responses in specific hypothalamic circuits, possibly as a consequence of a variant neuronal differentiation.

Interestingly, my sense of smell kicked in in high school.  I was at an all boys' school, but for choir at the end of the day we shipped in sopranos and altos from the girl's school up the street.  We'd be in the choir room, and they'd troop in... and the air changed.  Noticeably. 


It was my favorite time of day, even though after a few breaths I had trouble hiding the pitched tent with my music folder. 


OK, maybe that needed to go into the TMI thread.  Sorry. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Mar 2013, 08:36
One of the many reasons I am glad I am not a man. Hiding my arousal is not difficult at all, unless the person has an decidedly acute sense of smell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Mar 2013, 08:46
I remember reading somewhere quite some time ago that lesbians tend to have more "male" structured brains, something to do with the release of testosterone during a key point in fetal gestation, but I don't know how much truth there is to that and I can't recall where I read it.
Same thing causes Transsexuality, just at a different "Golden Moment", and different parts of the brain are involved. The foetus ends up more or less Androphillic/Gynephillic, and Male/Female identifying. Usally male genitaliais associated with male gender identity and gynephillia, but there are exceptions (ie gays exist, trans men exist, trans women exist, intersex people exist...)

fMRI Scan of Homosexual/Heterosexual Men/Women

(http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/06/16/Brai_Scan_460X276.jpg)

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 14 Mar 2013, 09:07
The phone should have gone "fraatz fraatz fraatz".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Ph2 on 14 Mar 2013, 09:09
As someone who doesn't own a couch (or other furniture for that matter) or a tv, I find that the bed makes a nice cozy place to snuggle up to watch a movie. On a laptop.

This certainly makes sense, I can't imagine Dora, living by herself on a probably small income would have enough money/desire to go and buy a couch when a bed would suffice.

Also, is this the first of us seeing the new apartment set up? I know we saw it being set up a little, but not furnished.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Mar 2013, 10:04
Long and short of it, I'm a historian.  I specialize in WWII small arms and weaponry.  Have actually loaned a few pieces of my collection to the History channel and Hollywood (Sparingly, they don't treat them as well as History Channel does)
I must put you in contact with a G/F of mine. Lynette Nusbacher. In a previous incarnation she appeared on many military history programs on the History Channel.

I can still remember the "Immediate Action - Gas Stoppage" drill on the Bren Mk 1. Mk 2 was easier IIRC. Lovely weapon, even I could put all 3 rounds of a burst into a dinnerplate sized target exposed for 5 secs at 200 metres.

Bren? So jealous <3 that said I'm still madly in love with the M2 I worked with in the Corps briefly, and any woman in my life has to accept that Ma Deuce will always be first in my heart.

And Fanboi, you gotta meet Gunny when you get the chance, I've meet him twice now and he's fantastic, there is no difference between his off screen "hanging with Marines" personality and how his is on his shows. Hell of a Marine, and one of the most deserved meritorious promotions to Gunnery Sergeant I've ever heard of.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 14 Mar 2013, 10:33
As someone who doesn't own a couch (or other furniture for that matter) or a tv, I find that the bed makes a nice cozy place to snuggle up to watch a movie. On a laptop.

This certainly makes sense, I can't imagine Dora, living by herself on a probably small income would have enough money/desire to go and buy a couch when a bed would suffice.

Also, is this the first of us seeing the new apartment set up? I know we saw it being set up a little, but not furnished.
Dora at least had a couch: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1913 – though they could have dropped it, I guess.

But you meant Tai, perhaps?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LittleKing on 14 Mar 2013, 10:38
Nice comic today, it was good to see other QC faces outside the wedding. Marten was such a tease in this one, poor Tai! :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 14 Mar 2013, 11:18
On one of my Archive re-readings I discovered, that Tai apparently really is a great fan. In comic 962 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=962) she's seen wearing a BPitch Control shirt, which is the record label founded by Ellen Allien.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 Mar 2013, 11:41
Zoe, on the color coding, what's being measured on the scale of 0-6?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBiscuit on 14 Mar 2013, 12:42
Claire is definitely growing as a character.  Over the course of this weekend, she has shared a room with Marten, met and accepted his family, (attempted to) fix his clothing, and is now ribbing him like it's old hat.  By the end of this arc, she will have either agreed to go on a date with Marten or will have permanently and irrevocably earned her stripes in his circle of friends.  There is no "Claire the Intern" after The Wedding.
I agree with your point that there's no more treating her as just "Claire the Intern", but that's been going on for a while. At least since she decided to share a personal secret with Marten. I really don't see a date in their future though. I've not noticed anything that I could characterize as signs of attraction on Marten's part, and nothing on Claire's part that isn't a stretch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 14 Mar 2013, 14:55
I remember reading somewhere quite some time ago that lesbians tend to have more "male" structured brains, something to do with the release of testosterone during a key point in fetal gestation, but I don't know how much truth there is to that and I can't recall where I read it.
Same thing causes Transsexuality, just at a different "Golden Moment", and different parts of the brain are involved. The foetus ends up more or less Androphillic/Gynephillic, and Male/Female identifying. Usally male genitaliais associated with male gender identity and gynephillia, but there are exceptions (ie gays exist, trans men exist, trans women exist, intersex people exist...)

fMRI Scan of Homosexual/Heterosexual Men/Women

(http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/06/16/Brai_Scan_460X276.jpg)

Cool, thanks , that does look familiar. It makes me wonder if there are different degrees of "maleness" and "femaleness" of various brains and if this in any way affects predispositions to particular behavioral patterns. Obviously people exist on a variety of spectra, but I am curious as to exactly how much influence brain structure has on where they fall on them. For example, I am a fairly androgynous woman, I prefer styles of clothing that are more traditionally masculine and I am extremely uncomfortable in anything feminine (dresses are right out). I am also told that my behavioral patterns when it comes to sex and relationships are rather male. However, despite all that I very much identify as a woman. There is no question in my mind that I am a woman, but how I express it is somewhat atypical. I'd be interesting to know how much of this is rooted in basic brain structures. As always I am interested in the dynamic between innate characteristics (or at least predispositions) and learned behavior and the biofeedback loop between brain structure and behavior/experience. Our brain structure effects our behavior and our behavior and experiences in turn effect the structure of our brains.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: riccostar on 14 Mar 2013, 16:29
That is the most stoked I've ever seen Marten, Dora boobs are back!

edit: also the title is painfully correct, bad metal horns Marten...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 14 Mar 2013, 16:50
Interestingly, my sense of smell kicked in in high school.  I was at an all boys' school, but for choir at the end of the day we shipped in sopranos and altos from the girl's school up the street.  We'd be in the choir room, and they'd troop in... and the air changed.  Noticeably. 


It was my favorite time of day, even though after a few breaths I had trouble hiding the pitched tent with my music folder. 


OK, maybe that needed to go into the TMI thread.  Sorry.

Story time!

My ex-girlfriend (who was at least bi-curious at the time) had this one female friend M, who eventually started taking the birth control pill at some point. A few weeks after, her best friend, who had been totally straight up to this point, came out to her with "being in love with her", which reportedly completely caught M offguard. A few weeks after that, M kind-of-cheated on her boyfriend with another guy from my then-GF circle of acquaintances (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,24169.msg1004946.html#msg1004946) (ie they made out during a sleepover, said guy promised to tell no living soul and proceeded to spill the beans the next morning to me and my then-GF. Being the hormonally-driven teenagers that we were and being both attracted to M, the reaction of both of us was, regrettably, mostly "Luuuucky".) Then-GF and me reasoned that maybe the pill made her somehow more attractive to everybody around her, including girls and boys alike, possibly either through odor or subtle changes in behavior.


Edit: I just saw that Linds was among the people who responded to my thread about it back then. I should apologize to her for killing her in the first round of Mafia 5. Sorry Linds!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 14 Mar 2013, 18:13
Someone is getting extra stack duty when he comes back.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Mar 2013, 18:46
Zoe, on the color coding, what's being measured on the scale of 0-6?
Blood flow under certain stimuli. A pretty crude metric for the brain activity that's happening, but the best we have. The pictures are composites of about 15 people in each category.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 14 Mar 2013, 19:14
I think that that Cellphone was on Vibrate


Nice going Marten, way to spoil the mood between Dora and Tai.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Mar 2013, 19:17
...and he probably has NO idea he did that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 14 Mar 2013, 19:25
Zoe, on the color coding, what's being measured on the scale of 0-6?
Blood flow under certain stimuli. A pretty crude metric for the brain activity that's happening, but the best we have. The pictures are composites of about 15 people in each category.

The first thing I thought of when I saw a 0-6 scale was "Kinsey"...and then I thought of Liam Neeson, because that movie was BIZARRE.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Mar 2013, 19:56
It makes me wonder if there are different degrees of "maleness" and "femaleness" of various brains and if this in any way affects predispositions to particular behavioral patterns.
You got it. Well expressed too, this isn't binary, different parts of the brain conform more or less to a male/female average or stereotype, no-one is 100% M or 100% F in all respects.

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Obviously people exist on a variety of spectra, but I am curious as to exactly how much influence brain structure has on where they fall on them.
Quite a lot. However many parts of the brain are plastic to some degree, so there's feedback involved.

As a general rule, when it comes to "Gendered behaviour", most of it has no biological basis. Most - but perhaps 20% or so does, and this 20% is quite important. While it does cover some problem-solving, 3D visio-spatial relationship perception, language ability and other easily measurable areas, a bigger part is to do with emotional response, body language, "instincts" for want of a better term.

So while it's a good first approximation to say that Gender is entirely a social construct, that there are no differences, that approximation soon breaks down.

This is most glaringly, blindingly obvious in some Intersex conditions, where we know neurological development is anomalous in the area of sexual dimorphism. I'll give 3 examples:

Turner syndrome : women with 45,X rather than 46,XX chromosomes
Mental retardation is not a feature of Turner syndrome, despite such claims in older medical textbooks. Thorough psychological studies show that these women are normal intellectually, but often have a characteristic pattern of intellectual functioning. While their verbal IQ usually is average or above, their non-verbal IQ may be considerably lower because of problems visualizing objects in relation to each other. This difficulty may show up in poor performance in math, geometry, and tasks requiring manual dexterity or sense of direction.
- Turner Syndrome -- Human Growth Foundation.

Klinefelter syndrome - usually caused by males having 47,XXY not 46,XY chromosomes:
Although they are not mentally retarded, most XXY males have some degree of language impairment. As children, they often learn to speak much later than do other children and may have difficulty learning to read and write.
-- Understanding Klinefelter Syndrome -- National Institute of Child Health and Human Development.

Whether you regard such people as "genetic women" masculinised by a Y chromosome (as is the official position of the Indonesian Catholic Bishops), or "genetic men" feminised by an extra X chromosome is a matter of ideology and faith, not fact. Most are just men, a few are women.

CAH - Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia in females
Data show that increased male-typical toy play by girls with CAH cannot be explained by parental encouragement of male-typical toy play. Although parents encourage sex-appropriate behavior, their encouragement appears to be insufficient to override the interest of girls with CAH in cross-sexed toys.
Prenatal hormones versus postnatal socialization by parents as determinants of male-typical toy play in girls with congenital adrenal hyperplasia Pasterski VL, Geffner ME, Brain C, Hindmarsh P, Brook C, Hines M Child Dev 76(1):264-78 2005 http://www.neuroscience.cam.ac.uk/publications/pubInfo.php?foreignId=pubmed%3A15693771


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For example, I am a fairly androgynous woman, I prefer styles of clothing that are more traditionally masculine and I am extremely uncomfortable in anything feminine (dresses are right out). I am also told that my behavioral patterns when it comes to sex and relationships are rather male. However, despite all that I very much identify as a woman. There is no question in my mind that I am a woman, but how I express it is somewhat atypical. I'd be interesting to know how much of this is rooted in basic brain structures. As always I am interested in the dynamic between innate characteristics (or at least predispositions) and learned behavior and the biofeedback loop between brain structure and behavior/experience. Our brain structure effects our behavior and our behavior and experiences in turn effect the structure of our brains.
Quoted in entirety, as no expert in the area could have put it better.

Some parts of the brain are plastic to varying degrees. Some parts aren't, but even then, pubescent changes happen there in some parts. It's a 1-way trip though, the pattern of development predestined or organised by hormonal variation in the womb, only activated later.

The organisation/activation model is very powerful, and is considered proven for nonhuman mammals, and nearly proven for humans."Nearly" as to prove it would require unethical experimentation on human fetuses, real Dr Mengele stuff.

 The organization-activation theory posits that the nervous system of a developing fetus responds to prenatal androgens so that, at a postnatal time, it will determine how sexual behavior is manifest. How organization-activation was or was not considered among different groups and under which circumstances it is considered is basically understood from the research and comments of different investigators and clinicians. The preponderance of evidence seems to indicate that the theory of organization-activation for the development of sexual behavior is certain for non-human mammals and almost certain for humans.
Clinical Implications of the Organizational and Activational Effects of Hormones M.Diamond Hormones and Behavior 55 (2009) 621–632
 http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2009-clinical-implications-hormones.html

How much of your psychology is rooted in innate brain structure? At an informed guess, most. The Gender Identity, certainly. You know you're female, as does Claire, as do I, despite evidence existing to the contrary. In your case "male typical" behaviour, in my case too to a lesser extent, in Claire's case and mine too the whole "MAAB" thing. Your "male typical" behaviour is very similar to women with CAH - I have CAH BTW, just not the usual kind.( 95% of CAH is caused by 21H, 5% by 11B, <1% by all other causes (3BHSD,17AH,Lipoid). I have 3BHSD)

How do we "know" what sex we are? This paper explains it:
A theory of gender development is presented that incorporates early biological factors that organize predispositions in temperament and attitudes. With activation of these factors a person interacts in society and comes to identify as male or female. The predispositions establish preferences and aversions the growing child compares with those of others. All individuals compare themselves with others deciding who they are like (same) and with whom are they different. These experiences and interpretations can then be said to determine how one comes to identify as male or female, man or woman. In retrospect, one can say the person has a gendered brain since it is the brain that structures the individual’s basic personality; first with inherent tendencies then with interactions coming from experience.
Biased-Interaction Theory of Psychosexual Development: “How Does One Know if One is Male or Female?” M.Diamond Sex Roles (2006) 55:589–600 http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2006-biased-interaction.html

It's obvious though that you've already grasped the essentials, and have some idea of the complexities.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 14 Mar 2013, 20:12
Tl, dr due to sick in progress.  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 15 Mar 2013, 00:05
Hey, Tai, why are you upset?  Dora could have been there!

...in fact, Dora still could have been there.  She was invited.  But that would have been wicked awkward...

EDIT BECAUSE I HAVE THE BEST TIMING EVER: Oh, dear.  This could end... well.  Or badly.  Well badly.

On a related note, why is it people in fiction black out so easily?  They call me a drunk, but I've only ever blacked out once... and the events of that night started a sequence that got me committed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shogouki on 15 Mar 2013, 00:10
That was quite the cute ending there.   :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Mar 2013, 00:12
Today's comic is TENSE!  8-)

Edit: Warning - while you were typing an alien invasion occured. You may wish to review your living conditions.

I just CAN'T catch a break...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2013, 00:17
We are definitely being teased.

I hope Marten and Claire do not date while he's supervising her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Mar 2013, 00:20
Knowing Jeph, he'll probably have Marten and Claire date off-screen, just to rub it in!  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shogouki on 15 Mar 2013, 00:27
Though I imagine whatever their feelings towards each other turn out to be waking up in the morning might be slightly awkward.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Mar 2013, 00:35
We are definitely being teased.
Ohhh yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Mar 2013, 00:57
They are seriously adorable in the final panel. And they look so content, too. FWIW, this scene shouldn't really cause any awkwardness in the morning - they don't seem to be drunk enough not to remember it all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 15 Mar 2013, 00:57
And the shippers punch the air.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rmo on 15 Mar 2013, 00:59
"I'm trolling you guys pretty hard"

Verily
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SJCrew on 15 Mar 2013, 01:04
Claire is better than Padma.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 15 Mar 2013, 01:20
That was beautiful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 01:31
I never consciously noticed Marten's lack of chest hair.

I want to see the reception so bad :( I hope we get an achronological strip with some of the impressions, like with Claire's dress or Marten's baby photos.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: no one special on 15 Mar 2013, 01:42
*slow clap*

EPIC. TROLLING.
I'd even say I got RickTroll'd, 'cause I did NOT see that coming.

Bravo, Jeph.  Bravo.  Troll on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 15 Mar 2013, 01:43
I am smiling from buttcheek to buttcheek right now.
I am also hurting on my face because of that, which is the only reason why there are little tears in my eyes... really.

This is an odd place for the character dynamics, though. Somewhere between "staying great friendship always on the brink of being perceived as romantic setup" and "becoming romantic relationship that always appears to maintain an optional out"... something irks me and I hope Jeph manages to keep this magical thing going a while longer before it goes haywire in one direction or the other. °O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 01:58
It's like. They are in a UnresolvedSexualTension situation, except neither seem to realize it. If that makes sense.

I'm afraid it doesn't.

*must restrain myself from over-analyzing Marten's eyes in second-to-last panel*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 15 Mar 2013, 02:11
(http://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/06/16/Brai_Scan_460X276.jpg)
I must spend too much time on the internet. My first thought was:
"The pictorial menu at a zombie restaurant".

Jeph is indeed a terrible, terrible tease.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 15 Mar 2013, 02:16
On a related note, why is it people in fiction black out so easily?  They call me a drunk, but I've only ever blacked out once... and the events of that night started a sequence that got me committed.

I don't think that was blacking out from drunkenness, I think that was passing out from exhaustion.

Also...

DAMN YOU, JACQUES!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Mar 2013, 02:23
We are definitely being teased.

You're just now figuring this out?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 15 Mar 2013, 02:42
Careful... you see I met someone at a new years party once.
After spending hours talking, we fell asleep next to each other like that. It was... comfy.

We've just celebrated our 32nd wedding anniversary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 15 Mar 2013, 02:45
On a related note, why is it people in fiction black out so easily?  They call me a drunk, but I've only ever blacked out once... and the events of that night started a sequence that got me committed.

I don't think that was blacking out from drunkenness, I think that was passing out from exhaustion.

I think that was... falling asleep...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Vurogj on 15 Mar 2013, 02:48
I'm getting the feeling of back-to-back callbacks. Dora has used that distraction technique before (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1147), and I got a definite Hanners and Sven (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1768) vibe from today's strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 15 Mar 2013, 02:56
He's really rocking the last panel swerve this week.

My questions are, how much do both of them move while sleeping, and is the door locked?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 15 Mar 2013, 03:04
It's like. They are in a UnresolvedSexualTension situation, except neither seem to realize it. If that makes sense.
[ ... ]

Actually, that does make a lot of sense... and is a much simpler way to get across the gist I was going for.

And if you want to analyze something, analyze that Claire curdled up towards Marten. That can mean one, both or neither of two things. °O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 15 Mar 2013, 03:12
I got nothing to really add. That is simply a beautiful end to the week...

Which means that the Awkward Zone is going to be in overdrive next week. EMERGENCY FANCY CLOTHES AND HATS! STAT!

Still, awesome work Jeph. You magnificent bastard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 15 Mar 2013, 03:32
Yep. We've been trolled hardcore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 15 Mar 2013, 03:52
Marten didn't even get a chance to say "Oh, pass out and drool on my shoulder. That's exactly what I was hoping for."

:evil:

But really, nice trolling Jeph. I always go "Uh-oh..." whenever Jeph says anything after posting the strip like "Muahahahahaha" or "Oh god, what have I done?" :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Y on 15 Mar 2013, 04:02
Seems she is comfortable enough with Marten to change with bathroom door open, especially if there's a possibility of a reflection visible from the small bathroom mirror .
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 15 Mar 2013, 04:09
Thank you for trolling, please continue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Mar 2013, 04:12
Trolling aside, it was quite sweet. 


And true-to-life. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaziel on 15 Mar 2013, 04:15
Seems she is comfortable enough with Marten to change with bathroom door open, especially if there's a possibility of a reflection visible from the small bathroom mirror .
Or the fact that she's somewhere between buzzed and drunk means she wasn't really thinking about it and was just going.

Man, the way I was scrolling the comic, I got down to panel 6 and wasn't able to see panel 7, so my eyes were like  :-o until I hit the last panel. Well done, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2013, 04:26
Quote from: Jeph
I am trolling you guys pretty hard
Lil' bit, yeah. It's ok, though. Marten must be drunk/tired, though, those don't look like comfortable sleeping clothes!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tinrobotboy on 15 Mar 2013, 04:28
Trolled so hard that I actually followed this link, registered, waited for the registration email and came back just to say Bravo, Sir.

Bra. Vo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2013, 04:31
Welcome, TRB. You came for the trolling, hopefully you stay for the, uh... :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 15 Mar 2013, 04:45
I burst out laughing when I saw the second panel because it was obvious where it was going. By the time that subsided, I read "I am trolling you guys pretty hard" and just started laughing again.

Yeah, I'm breaking my self-imposed vacation from the forums just to post about this. So sue me.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 04:49
Welcome, TRB. You came for the trolling, hopefully you stay for the, uh... :psyduck:

Well said, well said.

I'd suggest "for the obsessive over-analyzis of comic minutiae".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Technetium on 15 Mar 2013, 04:51
Haven't logged into this forum in a long time... people are really shipping Martin and Claire? You guys realize she has a penis, right? I don't think Martin has previously expressed any interest in another male's sexual anatomy before... having Martin end up bisexual would be kind of unexpected at this point, although I suppose it's possible it's something he's repressed for a long time. I dunno.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 15 Mar 2013, 04:52
I think I remember Jeph once said he wouldn't do the Two People Wake Up In Bed And It Looks Like Sexy Things Happened But They Don't Remember gag. [citation needed]

Although he is being hilariously cruel right now. I really like how Claire and Marten look in the last two panels. Very content, indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Throg on 15 Mar 2013, 04:57
NO dammit troll FAIL.

A TRUE troll would've just signed off 'see you Monday' and had the forums explode in speculation and shipping. The mods would've had to step in every three posts,  banning people left and right. Rampant debates over what the second-to-last panel "means". Glorious chaos!

The comment about 'i'm trolling you guys hard' just deflates all the potential brouhaha. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Mar 2013, 05:00
Haven't logged into this forum in a long time... people are really shipping Martin and Claire? You guys realize she has a penis, right? I don't think Martin has previously expressed any interest in another male's sexual anatomy before... having Martin end up bisexual would be kind of unexpected at this point, although I suppose it's possible it's something he's repressed for a long time. I dunno.

Please read upthread.  And all the other threads involved.  This has been thoroughly discussed, and the conclusion is that a) we don't know what she may or may not have, and b) it's rude to speculate. 

Regardless, love can spring up in the oddest places.  And people grow and change, especially in this comic (and even more so in real life). 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 15 Mar 2013, 05:02
... You guys realize she has a penis, right? ... another male's sexual anatomy ... end up bisexual ...

It might be prudent for you to read the threads down in the Discuss! section on how to speak to and about trans people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 15 Mar 2013, 05:11
Haven't logged into this forum in a long time... people are really shipping Martin and Claire? You guys realize she has a penis, right?
Nope. We realise she was almost certainly * born looking that way, of course. She was also born looking rather smaller. That we can be certain of.

* - not every trans woman was. The vast majority yes, but you can't just assume that. Similarly, she may have had genital reconstruction, or may not. That's her business.

You may want to look at these threads:
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28457.0.html
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28499.0.html

To prepare you by expanding your mind, to show just how complex things are...
http://www.usrf.org/news/010308-guevedoces.html


Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2013, 05:25
You've missed a lot in your absence, including several people explaining in depth why what you just said is horribly inappropriate. You can find it yourself, it's on previous WCDTs and a thread in DISCUSS, but it boils down to "Claire is a woman and it's quite disrespectful, if not downright insulting, to say otherwise. Speculation on what is under her pants is also inappropriate."

Edit: Didn't see the new page and a few people already saying it better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Narcolepto on 15 Mar 2013, 05:32
I think I remember Jeph once said he wouldn't do the Two People Wake Up In Bed And It Looks Like Sexy Things Happened But They Don't Remember gag. [citation needed]

Not exactly that, but there were comics 1611 http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1611 and 1612 http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1612 . They were pretty dang close to that.

Also, lurker status removed!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HueItzCoatl on 15 Mar 2013, 05:38
Holy crap, I was all like...."Yes this is going to happen and it's going to be awesome!" and then I was all like, "Jeph, you're a culero, but that was still awesome."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Random832 on 15 Mar 2013, 05:50
NO dammit troll FAIL.

A TRUE troll would've just signed off 'see you Monday' and had the forums explode in speculation and shipping. The mods would've had to step in every three posts,  banning people left and right. Rampant debates over what the second-to-last panel "means". Glorious chaos!

The comment about 'i'm trolling you guys hard' just deflates all the potential brouhaha.

Didn't stop Technetium.

The truly successful troll is one that can still be successful even when everyone knows it. Not admitting it is Easy Mode.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 15 Mar 2013, 05:55
I think I've figured out WHY I'm shipping this so hard.

The Marten/Claire dynamic has become a healthy version of the Marten/Faye dynamic. The snark is there for sure (the "nice one, Cicero" quote shows that), but without the violence or the sexual tension being used against Marten (and I know, Faye wouldn't have done that to Marten if she didn't have crippling anxieties, which she's now working through, but the fact is, the dynamic wasn't healthy at the time, because of that). Oh, and Claire actually knows when to turn the snark off, and be nice to Marten without a side of snark, unlike Faye at times (like this strip - Faye pre-500 would've given a backhanded insult instead, or maybe even a backhanded compliment). And, unlike Faye pre-500, Claire seems to actually be reasonably mentally healthy, and happy with the direction of her life - and, unlike Faye, extremely motivated to pursue her dream career, whereas Faye is the "underachieving peon" in the service industry, who needs significant help from Dora to even think about pursuing her dream. Claire's motivation could easily rub off on Marten, and make him less of a slacker (although that could work on a friendship level, it certainly doesn't need the ship to sail to do that). (The question is, does Marten have something equivalent to bring to the table? Else, it becomes rather one-sided, like Penelope and Wil's relationship began as.)

Mind you, there's the issue that it's unethical for Marten to date an intern that he's supervising, but Claire has clearly become a member of the main cast, and will probably stick around even after the current interns are no longer at Smif. (How long are they there, anyway? A quarter? Semester? Longer?) Speaking of which, I suspect Gabby won't stick around with the main cast - she's not really been developed at all, and Emily... Emily will probably be brought out for gag strips, just like the robots.

And, yes, there is the potential issue of sexual compatibility, regardless of what genitalia Claire has - Marten did express that his mind would be shattered if he found out that a partner was a trans woman after having sex with her (in the context of Dora), and that case would even be after having genital reassignment. As other posters have mentioned, it's not tactful to phrase that issue as, "she has a penis", though, ever - or to speculate on what genitalia she does have. If that issue ever needs to be resolved, I suspect Jeph will have Claire mention it, using far less crude terminology, in-comic (had to reword that sentence to get rid of a couple awful, and unintentional puns that would have been completely tactless). And, I don't think Jeph will even go there unless it's needed to develop the character of a potential romantic partner of Claire's, as being very accepting (partially because, he's implied that he's not going to write any events that are negative towards Claire being trans) - if the partner doesn't need that development or if she has had genital reassignment, then it'll most likely be left unsaid, and if the partner wouldn't be that accepting, Jeph wouldn't even bring the ship to a point where it matters. But unless that happens, as far as we're concerned, what's down there is none of our business.

Oh, and Jeph did do the "one person wakes up in bed and it looks like sexy things happened but she doesn't remember" gag, which nearly resulted in Marten's death. It was the resolution of the Faye puking in Marten's lap arc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 15 Mar 2013, 05:58
Well, then there's this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Mar 2013, 06:07
I don't get why everyone is stressing out about Claire's private parts, or Martens compatibility with them. QC has never been about exploring sexual situations, and if Jeph were to make the two a couple, he would be sure not to expose any sexuality-specific troubles between them. They'd just be a couple, with relatively normal couple issues, until it (probably) all falls apart in emotional anguish, as is standard for Marten's life. And I'm pretty sure Jeph wouldn't decide Marten would be unable to have a relationship with Claire if he (Jeph, that is) wanted said relationship to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 15 Mar 2013, 06:14
I don't get why everyone is stressing out about Claire's private parts, or Martens compatibility with them.

To be fair, not many are; and the discussion is at least partly to put another poster gently back on the rails.

(Edited to put in a missing bracket -Method)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 15 Mar 2013, 06:19
I think I remember Jeph once said he wouldn't do the Two People Wake Up In Bed And It Looks Like Sexy Things Happened But They Don't Remember gag. [citation needed]

Although he is being hilariously cruel right now. I really like how Claire and Marten look in the last two panels. Very content, indeed.

I had that feeling once at a party in a basement with a girl.  Content, dreamy-eyed drunkeness.  Then I descended into projectile vomiting and the worst hang-over in my life, followed by a flirt and dance with said girl, then back to friends because we made much better friends.

I'd say Jeph is trolling everyone hard.  I think he very well knows how hard people are trying to push them into a romantic relationship that I just don't think makes sense and won't happen and I'd be supremely disappointing iffen it did.  I think they're perfect as friends.  And, quite frankly, it'd be nice for Marten to have one more girl he didn't have a history of sexual tension with (Hanners being the only 'close' friend where no sexual tension is present.  And I don't consider the other interns close enough either).

Then again I just happen to like Emily's character and find her more entertaining and would rather see the hilarity of Marten ever got involved with her.

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At any rate, I'll enjoy watching the forum-goers here lose their minds and try to ship two people so smashingly drunk they just blacked out.  May not even remember the "drunken stare".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Mar 2013, 06:20
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To be fair, not many are; and the discussion is at least partly to put another poster gently back on the rails.

I know, but it's still kind of unpleasant, and it takes a lot of attention away from discussing what's actually happening in the comic. Oh, never mind, I just wanted to vent some steam.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 15 Mar 2013, 06:24
Almost forgot, Jeph did also do the "it looks like sexy things happened but he doesn't remember" - Faye trolling a hungover Henry, although there was no waking up in bed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2013, 06:27
All together now: Hurp. Derp.  :laugh:

For our next shipping manifest, I demand Momo and Winslow. Moslow 4-EVAH!  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 15 Mar 2013, 06:34
All together now: Hurp. Derp.  :laugh:

For our next shipping manifest, I demand Momo and Winslow. Moslow 4-EVAH!  :evil:

No no no.  If we're shipping ridiculousness.  Pintsize gets a humanoid chasis like Momo and gets into a three-way relationship with Momo and Winslow.  Only, it's an M&S and Momo is the master.  Obviously.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2013, 06:37
By the way, someone posted this alternate ending to Jeph's twitter feed: http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b412/jankahl/Random/2405_zpse34a2d27.png

Don't worry, still SFW.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 06:41
I think I've figured out WHY I'm shipping this so hard.
[--snip--]

I want to upvote your post so hard.

And, quite frankly, it'd be nice for Marten to have one more girl he didn't have a history of sexual tension with (Hanners being the only 'close' friend where no sexual tension is present.  And I don't consider the other interns close enough either).

Tai? Marigold, to some extent?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jaredstar1 on 15 Mar 2013, 06:55
By the way, someone posted this alternate ending to Jeph's twitter feed: http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/b412/jankahl/Random/2405_zpse34a2d27.png

Don't worry, still SFW.

It really has been a long time  hasn't it marten
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Mar 2013, 06:55
I want to upvote your post so hard.

That sounds REALLY dirty for some reason!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 15 Mar 2013, 06:56
Very cute strip.  :-)

And if you want to analyze something, analyze that Claire curdled up towards Marten.

If anything she shoulda cuddled up closer; At this rate she'll fall out of bed if she tries sleeping on her back! I suppose that could be adjusted while asleep. *Hopes for an adorable first panel on Monday*

Bra. Vo.
Also, lurker status removed!

Welcome!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2013, 06:56
The Marten/Claire dynamic has become a healthy version of the Marten/Faye dynamic.

Wow. That is an impressive insight.

Note that it's accurate if they are forever Just Friends.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 15 Mar 2013, 07:03
I think I've figured out WHY I'm shipping this so hard.
[--snip--]

I want to upvote your post so hard.

And, quite frankly, it'd be nice for Marten to have one more girl he didn't have a history of sexual tension with (Hanners being the only 'close' friend where no sexual tension is present.  And I don't consider the other interns close enough either).

Tai? Marigold, to some extent?

Forgot about Tai, but there is the whole "Dora" thing around Tai.  And I'd say Marigold is closer to Hanners than Martin.  Way closer in fact. 

Still doesn't change the fact I think they make out far better as great friends.  Let's face it, it would appear Marten is the first outside source she's told about her past.  I think it's better for them both to have a strong relationship on a purely platonic basis than screwing everything up with romance.  It would likely be Claire's 1st relationship. We know Marten's score card in that department.  Abject failure.  It'd be better for Claire to have a brother who's not a brother "friend".  If you get what I mean. 
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As for this being a healthy version of Marten/Faye...Not really seeing that.  There was never anything "unhealthy" imo between those two.  If Faye hadn't had her hanger-ups/trust issues stemming from her father, they'd have gotten together lickity split.  Claire isn't Faye.  Only similarity I can see if that BOTH Faye and Claire have entrusted heavily guarded secrets to Marten.  Claire, I imagine, is the new BFF as Faye gets closer to Angus.  Not a replacement.

The only thing I'd say is Claire is Faye without any sexual tension or romantic attraction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 07:06
Forgot about Tai, but there is the whole "Dora" thing around Tai.  And I'd say Marigold is closer to Hanners than Martin.  Way closer in fact. 


I, on the other hand, completely forgot about Dora now dating Tai, so there's that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 15 Mar 2013, 07:35
Nice comic!

I would really like a close friendship between Marten and Claire; I think that would be the best. No real "relationship" relationship, only a good friendship, maybe even in a brother and sister way. They seem to have quite some fun together.

And I agree that Gabby doesn't feel like "main cast". Emily on the other hand … maybe. She even hosted a party for the regular circle, and said she was friends with them, her only friends. Leaving her would feel awkward. But now that I'm slowly getting used to the waiting between comics I feel like there are already so many recurring characters, that it might be hard to implement another one. There is only a limited number of characters who fit into one panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Asterus on 15 Mar 2013, 08:04
Did anyone else initially read Claire's Out-of-panel comment as "I didn't even know you could do that WITH a horse!"?... No?....
...
>.> Neither did I.
I also initially considered the circus we must have missed out on to be the aspect of trolling Jeph was referring to. It is VERY obvious I'm not quite awake right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RedWolf4 on 15 Mar 2013, 08:22
Ah, I see the latest edition of Troll Hard: Troll Harder is up.

Honestly though that was the BEST result. Very adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2013, 08:23
My initial reaction was "WHAT did Veronica do on the horse?"

Also "Did Aunt Jane get pictures?" But we all know the answer to that one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 15 Mar 2013, 08:38
Did anyone else initially read Claire's Out-of-panel comment as "I didn't even know you could do that WITH a horse!"?... No?....

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk40/AndalusMan/Misc/withahorse_zps16fc2fe5.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 15 Mar 2013, 10:13
The horse's expression does appear to be rather pained.
Or perhaps s/he can't believe what Aunt Jane just whispered.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 15 Mar 2013, 10:29
The horse's expression does appear to be rather pained.
Or perhaps s/he can't believe what Aunt Jane just whispered.

Horse looked rather perturbed at being in a wedding.  It had been looking forward to the Kentucky Derby or some such.  He had a date with a black stallion. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Mar 2013, 10:32
Nay, 'twas probably just a bad pun. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 15 Mar 2013, 11:52
Marry, 'twas a hoarse whisper.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Roborat on 15 Mar 2013, 11:57
Well, this was pretty much the ending I expected.  As another poster said, it would have been funnier to have not had the last panel, and let the forums explode in speculation.  We still have the possibility of the awkward wakeup however, depending on who moves where in their sleep, and of course the morning wood situation could, ahem, arise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: xAmilli0n on 15 Mar 2013, 12:04
Not gonna lie, got pretty excited reading today's comic as I adore the friendship Marten and Claire have built, and the final panel was adorable.  I'm still grinning like an idiot after reading it.

Thanks for the troll Mr. Jacques.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 15 Mar 2013, 12:25
it would have been funnier to have not had the last panel, and let the forums explode in speculation.

The forums contain a tiny, tiny part only of the QC fanbase - a joke directed at them would be wasted effort.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ElvisRevenge on 15 Mar 2013, 12:56
I'm fine with this. I'm going to be patient, and let this progress, because it is gonna be SO SWEET when they do hook up.

Figure this: It took 489 strips between Dora's first appearance to when she and Marten hooked up, m'kay? It's only been 202 strips since Claire's first appearance.

THERE'S STILL TIME! I keep telling myself
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Mar 2013, 13:02
JJ is just a huge tease, and he knows it. Pre 500 QC was full of these moments, especially when Faye was intoxicated.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 15 Mar 2013, 13:10
Keep in mind that Faye really was attracted to Marten, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Mar 2013, 13:25
Who says Claire isn't? Marten is an incredibly nice, funny, stable, and possibly attractive (I am not the right person to judge) person. Until proven otherwise, everything is possible in my opinion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 15 Mar 2013, 13:30
I made the argument before, that she turned bright red and could barely speak, she was so overcome with attraction, when she met an older, greyer version of Marten. (I mean, Dora used him as a benchmark for how Marten would look when he turned grey, so...)

So, she most likely finds Marten attractive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 15 Mar 2013, 13:30
Knew it!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Mar 2013, 13:36
I really hope Jeph neither takes the Faye route or the Dora route with Claire. Or worse, the Padma route.
(I hope I don't have to explain further)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 13:45
Well, we can be reasonably sure he won't take the Vicky route.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2013, 13:55
A Faye and Marten relationship would have connected and reinforced the worst parts of both personalities: Faye's bullying and Marten's passivity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shogouki on 15 Mar 2013, 14:01
I made the argument before, that she turned bright red and could barely speak, she was so overcome with attraction, when she met an older, greyer version of Marten. (I mean, Dora used him as a benchmark for how Marten would look when he turned grey, so...)

So, she most likely finds Marten attractive.

Not too mention he's probably one of the few people outside her family that knows that she's trans and has been totally accepting of her, that in and of itself has probably created a strong bond she feels with him.  Whether or not that turns into romantic feelings will be very interesting to find out.  I'd totally be happy if they're just close in a brother/sister kind of way as I'd be really sad if a relationship got started but ended up not working out and they became more distant. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 15 Mar 2013, 14:04
Jeph has made comics that appeared to be targeted at the forums before, such as shooting down rumors about Hannelore and Marigold.

My initial reaction was "WHAT did Veronica do on the horse?"
I distinctly recall positing that Veronica's response to the horse was recognition, but no one bit.

Marry, 'twas a hoarse whisper.
and of course the morning wood situation could, ahem, arise.
Oh, you!

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My questions are, how much do both of them move while sleeping, and is the door locked?
People have touched on the first question, but what about the second? Most hotels I've been to had doors that auto locked, but this is a bed and breakfast, it may have a regular lock.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 15 Mar 2013, 14:41
I made the argument before, that she turned bright red and could barely speak, she was so overcome with attraction, when she met an older, greyer version of Marten. (I mean, Dora used him as a benchmark for how Marten would look when he turned grey, so...)

So, she most likely finds Marten attractive.

Or she will in 30 years time... :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: xAmilli0n on 15 Mar 2013, 14:43

I'd totally be happy if they're just close in a brother/sister kind of way as I'd be really sad if a relationship got started but ended up not working out and they became more distant.

This is kind of how I feel.  As much as I would love for their relationship to grow closer, I would hate for them to fall apart because it didn't work out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Mar 2013, 14:59
A point I'd like to raise: Claire may very well find Marten attractive, but that doesn't necessarily means she's interested in him romantically. It's possible that she believes that she's not ready for a romantic relationship. It's possible that she views Marten more as a close friend than as a potential romantic partner. It's possible that she doesn't think it's advisable to get involved with someone she works with. Shoot, given her reaction to Henry, it's even possible that she prefers older men and considers Marten to be too young. (Though if that's the case, my advice to her would be that it's a problem that will solve itself with time.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: teclo on 15 Mar 2013, 15:06
My bet, there's spooning involved and Claire is the big spoon! :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 15 Mar 2013, 15:08
My bet, there's spooning involved and Claire is the big spoon! :)

She is smaller than Marten. Small people don't get to be big spoons. They get to be jetpacks  :-D


*hide-and-cover*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 15 Mar 2013, 15:52
I think Jeph is definitely enjoying himself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SJCrew on 15 Mar 2013, 15:57
I really hope Jeph neither takes the Faye route or the Dora route with Claire. Or worse, the Padma route.
(I hope I don't have to explain further)
Don't get me wrong. I like Padma, but she was a flake. Just bounced on Marten with no warning.

However, I knew Claire was something special from the start. Almost dethrones Hannelore as my favorite QC character (who admittedly hasn't been doing much lately).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 15 Mar 2013, 16:02
My bet: any suggestiveness/awkwardness is entirely in other people's heads, not Marten and Claire's, and the next strip is a blurgh-I'm-so-hung-over one with references to Claire's new relationship with scotch. 

They do have one heck of a hangover coming--think how drunk they must be to pass out in the middle of a conversation, on top of the bedspread, and Marten still in his dress shirt. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 15 Mar 2013, 16:02
Screw the shipping troll, I wanna know what the fuck Marten did with a horse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sassafras on 15 Mar 2013, 16:26
Marten and Claire strikes me as the sort of relationship that would work out great in real life, but not so good for storytelling drama. They both mesh together personality-wise (but with enough minor conflict to not get boring or door-matty) to the point where I could see them getting married and growing old together, but if that's not going to happen in the comic I'd rather see them just be BFFs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 15 Mar 2013, 16:34
I don't think that was blacking out from drunkenness, I think that was passing out from exhaustion.

Black out, not pass out.  As in not being sure what happened the previous night.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 15 Mar 2013, 16:38
OH COME ON JEPH


GAAHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kixie on 15 Mar 2013, 16:40
Oh Jeph. You just had to leave it at that *sigh* I think those two make great friends, I could even see them as a couple easily, all things considered. But now I'm all like "omgomgomgomg where's it going???" Always leaving the cliffhangers on the week's end, blah. Damn you for being such a king of trolls Jeph, and making it look good while you're at it! :?

And those damn scotch Savants. I still look like Claire  on her first go around every time I drink good scotch..

Whaaaaat happened on the horse??? MUST know!

...mew.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 15 Mar 2013, 16:46
Screw the shipping troll, I wanna know what the fuck Marten did with a horse.
Marten didn't do anything with a horse, the 'you' does not refer to him.

It was likely his mom. :evil:

My bet: any suggestiveness/awkwardness is entirely in other people's heads, not Marten and Claire's, and the next strip is a blurgh-I'm-so-hung-over one with references to Claire's new relationship with scotch. 

They do have one heck of a hangover coming--think how drunk they must be to pass out in the middle of a conversation, on top of the bedspread, and Marten still in his dress shirt.
Aside from the bubbles, they're speaking clearly and grammatically. They're just tired from all the shenanigans they recounted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2013, 16:50
It's a pity Marten's an only child. He seems like a great big brother.

If Claire is putting relationship-hunting on hold during transition, wouldn't that be a common pattern?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 15 Mar 2013, 17:30
I don't see how this is trolling -- I've had a couple evenings end this way. 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2013, 18:24
Don't get me wrong. I like Padma, but she was a flake. Just bounced on Marten with no warning.
I think he had plenty of warning, I just don't think he realized his last chance to hang out with her was actually his last chance to hang out with her until it was too late to possibly make it not so.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 15 Mar 2013, 18:42
[CharltonHestonVoice] Damn you Jeph Jacques, damn you straight to hell!!!! [/CharltonHestonVoice]


Best Cliffhanger ever!


Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 15 Mar 2013, 18:53
No no no.  If we're shipping ridiculousness.  Pintsize gets a humanoid chasis like Momo and gets into a three-way relationship with Momo and Winslow.  Only, it's an M&S and Momo is the master.  Obviously.  :psyduck:
Oh no! No, no, no, no, NO! The very last thing I want to see in the pages of QC is someone who looks like Momo's current chassis in S&M garb.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sassafras on 15 Mar 2013, 18:56
If Claire is putting relationship-hunting on hold during transition, wouldn't that be a common pattern?
I don't know for certain, but I don't think it's all that common. Where transition "ends" varies from person to person, and it can take many years and many thousands of dollars. Lots of people don't want to go without romance for so long.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 15 Mar 2013, 19:12
Whaaaaat happened on the horse??? MUST know!

You know that stunt where Eval Kneival rides a motorcycle over a dozen flaming schoolbuses? It was like that, only gay.
*Ba-dum psshh*


The horse was not harmed, as it's Veronica's horse anyway, and she needed him for work afterward. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 15 Mar 2013, 19:29
Aside from the bubbles, they're speaking clearly and grammatically. They're just tired from all the shenanigans they recounted.

Logged in to agree with this - we've seen LOTS of examples of "blackout drunk" over the comic's run, and I really don't feel like this is one of them.  They're buzzed, but pretty far from plowed, and I think nodding off on the bed while chatting like that feels pretty natural.  The wedding and reception appears to have been an all-day affair, since we saw it start with breakfast and now it's bedtime; I expect they're both exhausted.  Also, I'd hazard that while getting plastered before or after happens plenty of times, getting that drunk at the actual reception is a lot less common, and I expect Marten and Claire are adult enough to pace themselves for the occasion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2013, 19:32
getting that drunk at the actual reception is a lot less common
Wait, really? At all the weddings I've been to, the reception (which started right after the ceremony) is when the drinking started.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 15 Mar 2013, 20:12
No no no.  If we're shipping ridiculousness.  Pintsize gets a humanoid chasis like Momo and gets into a three-way relationship with Momo and Winslow.  Only, it's an M&S and Momo is the master.  Obviously.  :psyduck:
Oh no! No, no, no, no, NO! The very last thing I want to see in the pages of QC is someone who looks like Momo's current chassis in S&M garb.

Great, now I have the image of Veronica Vance having some Momo-esque AnthroPC gimp locked up in her dungeon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aquaisces on 15 Mar 2013, 20:31
ONOES, CLAIRE FELL ASLEEP IN HER CONTACTS!!!

Oh, wait, she must have taken them off in the bathroom. Nevermind. :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 15 Mar 2013, 20:36
Whaaaaat happened on the horse??? MUST know!

You know that stunt where Eval Kneival rides a motorcycle over a dozen flaming schoolbuses? It was like that, only gay.
*Ba-dum psshh*


The horse was not harmed, as it's Veronica's horse anyway, and she needed him for work afterward. :mrgreen:

It's an EquestroPC, and half the stunts were its idea anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Mar 2013, 20:40
it would have been funnier to have not had the last panel, and let the forums explode in speculation.

The forums contain a tiny, tiny part only of the QC fanbase - a joke directed at them would be wasted effort.

Yeah, but did the rest of his fanbase do THIS (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2316)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 15 Mar 2013, 21:07
Yeah, but did the rest of his fanbase do THIS (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2316)?

As far as fanbases go, we are canon. The rest are fan-based. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Mar 2013, 21:08
Great, now I have the image of Veronica Vance having some Momo-esque AnthroPC gimp locked up in her dungeon.

Nice callback (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=447#)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2013, 21:13
Yeah, but did the rest of his fanbase do THIS (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2316)?

As far as fanbases go, we are canon. The rest are fan-based. :mrgreen:
Man, I still regret not being a part of that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 15 Mar 2013, 21:38
Whaaaaat happened on the horse??? MUST know!

You know that stunt where Eval Kneival rides a motorcycle over a dozen flaming schoolbuses? It was like that, only gay.
*Ba-dum psshh*


The horse was not harmed, as it's Veronica's horse anyway, and she needed him for work afterward. :mrgreen:

It's an EquestroPC, and half the stunts were its idea anyway.
*slow clap*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 15 Mar 2013, 21:57
All of which lends new meaning to "...and the horse you rode in on"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 15 Mar 2013, 22:39
getting that drunk at the actual reception is a lot less common
Wait, really? At all the weddings I've been to, the reception (which started right after the ceremony) is when the drinking started.

Oh, most definitely!  I'm Catholic, I go to like four or five weddings a year and am in at least one of them; every single one has multiple kegs and a wine bar (sometimes the hard stuff, too) - we party at our receptions!  However, there's a difference between celebrating with other adults and tasty beverages and getting blackout drunk, which is what several people believe Marten and Claire did.  I'm personally of the opinion that it's in poor taste to get totally smashed at a wedding reception - it's just not the same kind of venue as a bar.  But that's me personally. 

Keep in mind that this is from a guy who (as the best man) has danced with the groom with a beer mug in one hand (everyone thought it was hilarious).  I also make it a point to carry a flask of good whiskey in my inner jacket pocket and encourage the groom and all other groomsmen to take a small swig before the ceremony as a gesture of solidarity and for good luck (and to take the edge off a nervous groom).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CrowFairy on 15 Mar 2013, 22:51
It was nice to end this week's worth of strips with such an obscene amount of cuteness. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Mar 2013, 23:05
I wonder what'll happen when they both wake up in the same bed or if Jeph will choose to avoid that scene altogether.

On another note, with me being new in this forum... How do we address our omnipresent creator? Jeph? Mr. Jacques? Hephzibah?

edit: Wow, I have no idea how Jephmaster got autocorrected to Hephzibah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Mar 2013, 23:10
"His Eminence" is the proper form of address I believe...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Mar 2013, 00:07
This came up once a long time ago. Jeph said that "Jeph" was reasonable given that it's his username here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 01:15
I wonder what'll happen when they both wake up in the same bed or if Jeph will choose to avoid that scene altogether.

On another note, with me being new in this forum... How do we address our omnipresent creator? Jeph? Mr. Jacques? Hephzibah?

edit: Wow, I have no idea how Jephmaster got autocorrected to Hephzibah.
What browser has autocorrect?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 16 Mar 2013, 02:14
Great, now I have the image of Veronica Vance having some Momo-esque AnthroPC gimp locked up in her dungeon.

Nice callback (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=447#)

I said Momo, not Pintsize. But goddamn, a certain function would be up Vance's way..... (http://questionablecontent.net/1298)

What browser has autocorrect?

Firefox.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Mar 2013, 02:34
Well, if we are going to be nitpicky, Firefox has an auto-"you might have done this wrong"-curly-underline. It doesn't correct your text automatically.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 02:42
Well, if we are going to be nitpicky, Firefox has an auto-"you might have done this wrong"-curly-underline. It doesn't correct your text automatically.
Yes, it has spell check that lets you know there might be a problem. It doesn't have autocorrect that changes it for you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 16 Mar 2013, 02:48

However, I knew Claire was something special from the start. Almost dethrones Hannelore as my favorite QC character (who admittedly hasn't been doing much lately).

Why do people like Claire so much? She is so petty and mean. One of the least likeable characters in the comic. The least likeable, I think.

I can not find the strip I am thinking of. For some reason the search engine finds nothing when I search for "necrosis" or "firework accident". But it is the one where she sees that Clinton is about to enjoy  a moment in the spotlight, and she rushes in to ruin it. She nows how much is wexes him, and that is just why she does it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bad Wolf on 16 Mar 2013, 02:52
Quote
What browser has autocorrect?

He might be forum-ing on a phone/tablet? Just a thought, as both of those tend to autocorrect even in browsers.

Also on the Claire/Marten thing, even though I think they would be *ohmygosh soooo cute* as a couple, I kinda hope they don't get together. I think they'd make for a great best friend duo, that would still lend itself to a lot of cute moments without being relationship-y. It would just suck to see it end in a pile of drama, and I'm not getting the 'ready to settle down with one person' vibe from Marten or the comic, so it would inevitably end. Probably.

On another note, since I read through ALL the comics last week, this is the first weekend I've had to sit through waiting for a comic, and it is torture.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bad Wolf on 16 Mar 2013, 02:55
Quote
But it is the one where she sees that Clinton is about to enjoy  a moment in the spotlight, and she rushes in to ruin it.

That might just be a sibling thing though. There might be a lot of tension in their relationship that we don't know about, even though we did see a sweet brother moment when she came out to Marten. I can't remember which one of them is younger, so correct me if I'm wrong, but if she's youngest she might be used to him getting the spotlight, which could cause her to want to steal it from him. I certainly remember having a lot of moments like that with my brother, but it doesn't mean either of us are petty or mean.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 Mar 2013, 03:13
She's 24, Clinton is 21, IIRC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Mar 2013, 03:17
Okay, I thought people were joking about the autocorrect thing. I assume the forum has some filtering built in, as do most. It is commonly set up for purposes of filtering swearing or spam, but also frquently used for humorous purposes .
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 03:17
Why do people like Claire so much? She is so petty and mean. One of the least likeable characters in the comic. The least likeable, I think.

I can not find the strip I am thinking of. For some reason the search engine finds nothing when I search for "necrosis" or "firework accident". But it is the one where she sees that Clinton is about to enjoy a moment in the spotlight, and she rushes in to ruin it. She knows how much it vexes him, and that is just why she does it.
Here it is. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305) It only happened because Jeph wanted to do a comic about jacking off, apparently; regardless, she did it to be humorous. She just isn't very socially adept, and is rather prickly and defensive, but that's part of her charm. I think interest really picked up after The Reveal (transsexual edition) and she softened to Marten and stopped being prickly to him specifically.

Plus, they're siblings. They do that kind of thing.

On another note, since I read through ALL the comics last week, this is the first weekend I've had to sit through waiting for a comic, and it is torture.
I remember when I did that, though when I caught up Hannelore was in a thought spot fugue, so nothing plot relevant was going on.

Okay, I thought people were joking about the autocorrect thing. I assume the forum has some filtering built in, as do most. It is commonly set up for purposes of filtering swearing or spam, but also frequently used for humorous purposes .
This is a test: Jephmaster.

Nope, not in this case.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 Mar 2013, 03:18
I believe in some browsers, Mac OS X will autocorrect, as well.

(I turned system-wide autocorrect off as the first thing I did, when I got this Mac.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 03:23
I believe in some browsers, Mac OS X will autocorrect, as well.

(I turned system-wide autocorrect off as the first thing I did, when I got this Mac.)
Must resist... prickly comments... about Apple...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Mar 2013, 03:50
Why do people like Claire so much? She is so petty and mean. One of the least likeable characters in the comic. The least likeable, I think.

I can not find the strip I am thinking of. For some reason the search engine finds nothing when I search for "necrosis" or "firework accident". But it is the one where she sees that Clinton is about to enjoy a moment in the spotlight, and she rushes in to ruin it. She knows how much it vexes him, and that is just why she does it.
Here it is. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305) It only happened because Jeph wanted to do a comic about jacking off, apparently; regardless, she did it to be humorous. She just isn't very socially adept, and is rather prickly and defensive, but that's part of her charm. I think interest really picked up after The Reveal (transsexual edition) and she softened to Marten and stopped being prickly to him specifically.

Plus, they're siblings. They do that kind of thing.

Also relevant. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2327)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Mar 2013, 04:12
I assume the forum has some filtering built in, as do most. It is commonly set up for purposes of filtering swearing or spam, but also frequently used for humorous purposes.

There were some such when I became admin, but the only word filter I have left in place is on the name of a file-sharing site used in the BAND section.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 04:18
I assume the forum has some filtering built in, as do most. It is commonly set up for purposes of filtering swearing or spam, but also frequently used for humorous purposes.

There were some such when I became admin, but the only word filter I have left in place is on the name of a file-sharing site used in the BAND section.
I thought I had something to say to that, but then I started squeeing over glowy Ayato Kamina from the penultimate episode of RahXephon, which reloaded into Naota from the manga version of FLCL. I've noticed Naota before, but haven't really looked at it otherwise. How many images does your profile image have, and how did you set that up?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Mar 2013, 04:47
My guess is that he's using a PHP (or some such language) script containing something like
Code: (PHP) [Select]
<?php

//Tell the browser (or other HTTP-receiving application) to expect a PNG image
header('Content-Type: image/png');

//Create a folder handler
$folder opendir("path/to/images");

//Get all the filenames, plus an empty entry in the array because of the way I've written this
while($images[] = readdir()){}

//Remove the empty entry
array_pop($images);

//Get a random file name from that folder
$filename =  $images[array_rand($images)];

//Inters the contents of the image intoto the data to be returned
echo file_get_contents("path/to/images/" $filename);

//Stop execution
exit;
?>


I haven't tested this, so there's probably a bug or six, but it's how I'd do it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 16 Mar 2013, 05:10
My guess is that he's using a PHP (or some such language) script containing something like
Code: (PHP) [Select]
<?php
[...]
//Get all the filenames, plus an empty entry in the array because of the way I've written this
while($images[] = readdir()){}
[...]
?>



Is that construct really valid? I wouldn't have expected it to work in the way intended. I mean, I get what you are trying to do; still looks weird to me to fill an array like this. Maybe because you forgot to pass the $folder handle to readdir  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Mar 2013, 05:23
If you don't specify a handle, readdir() will use the last one opened.

I'm pretty sure that construct is valid. I know that using
Code: (PHP) [Select]
<?php
while($dataset[] = mysql_fetch_assoc($mysql_resource)){}
?>

works, so it should work here too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Seripham89 on 16 Mar 2013, 05:28
I know Jeph was worried about getting a transgender character right, but in the last comic when Marten and Claire are looking into each others eyes, my first thought was "Despite the trolling, if these two ever got together the potential children would have pretty eyes no matter what- oh. right. I forgot. I am an idiot."  That's a win for Jeph I think, being able to make me forget a character's origin and look at how they are now. From the very few trans friends I have that seems like the goal and the entire point.  Well done, JJ.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Mar 2013, 05:38
I thought I had something to say to that, but then I started squeeing over glowy Ayato Kamina from the penultimate episode of RahXephon, which reloaded into Naota from the manga version of FLCL. I've noticed Naota before, but haven't really looked at it otherwise. How many images does your profile image have, and how did you set that up?

About 250 images, chosen from randomly by a rewrite function in Apache - see here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25295.msg975216.html#msg975216).

(Actually, since then I've made it a two-stage lookup, to get over a bug when the lines in the file listing the images get too long - it still fits in two lines, though.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Mar 2013, 06:16
Didn't know I would spark such a mystery. I'm surfing on my phone, a Lumia 920. I was just a bit weirded out, since this is the first time I've had an autocorrect mistake.
What's a Hephzibah?
And I'll call him Jeph then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bad Wolf on 16 Mar 2013, 06:43
Didn't know I would spark such a mystery. I'm surfing on my phone, a Lumia 920. I was just a bit weirded out, since this is the first time I've had an autocorrect mistake.
What's a Hephzibah?
And I'll call him Jeph then.

Aha, called it! I surf reddit on my phone a lot and it always autocorrects me and drives me crazy. Also, Google says a Hephzibah is a city in Georgia, and also a name meaning  "my delight is in her" in Hebrew.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 16 Mar 2013, 07:01
I shall refer to him as Jephzibah from now on, then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Floorman on 16 Mar 2013, 07:02
Hepzibah is also a minor character in the Marvel comics universe, usually in the X-Men books. She's a humanoid skunk woman space pirate.

Edit: Didn't notice the extra "h" in there.  Wikipedia still took me to a page that mentioned the previous definitions though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 Mar 2013, 07:15
and also a name meaning  "my delight is in her" in Hebrew.
So your nickname for it is "delight"?  :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Mar 2013, 08:31
I wouldn't refer to Jeph as "it" but you still made me crackle with laughter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 16 Mar 2013, 09:08
If Claire is putting relationship-hunting on hold during transition, wouldn't that be a common pattern?
+1 Insightful
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 16 Mar 2013, 09:16
That's a win for Jeph I think, being able to make me forget a character's origin and look at how they are now. From the very few trans friends I have that seems like the goal and the entire point.  Well done, JJ.
Yes. Yes to all. Jeph could not have done it better.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 16 Mar 2013, 09:37
There is one hurdle though.

The logic of Narrative Necessity.

Would QC be QC if Marten got into a stable "and they all lived happily ever after" situation? Would QC be able to carry on with its emotional dramas if the main character essentially bowed out from the emotional melodrama? I think it would, but it would be a catastrophic (as in sudden discontinuity) change of direction.

I would like to see Marten actually win first prize, after all the poor guy's been through over the years. For that matter, I'd like to see all the characters eventually win big. Hanners healed, Marigold out of her shell... but unless new characters are introduced, that would be the end of QC.

Some Soap Operas manage it. The departure of Ena Sharples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ena_Sharples) did not mean the death of "Coronation Street (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_Street)" though it was never the same again.

BTW one of the few series older than "Dr Who"...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 16 Mar 2013, 09:41

About 250 images, chosen from randomly by a rewrite function in Apache - see here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25295.msg975216.html#msg975216).

(Actually, since then I've made it a two-stage lookup, to get over a bug when the lines in the file listing the images get too long - it still fits in two lines, though.)

I am more concerned about the "coprophage". Is that for shock effect, or is there a deeper meaning?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Mar 2013, 09:47
It's a post count-based title. Anyone with 7000-7999 posts has it. 8000-9999 is "Mayan calendar conspirator" and 10000+ is "DICKFISH". There may or may not be higher levels, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Seripham89 on 16 Mar 2013, 09:54
There is one hurdle though.

The logic of Narrative Necessity.

Would QC be QC if Marten got into a stable "and they all lived happily ever after" situation? Would QC be able to carry on with its emotional dramas if the main character essentially bowed out from the emotional melodrama? I think it would, but it would be a catastrophic (as in sudden discontinuity) change of direction.

I would like to see Marten actually win first prize, after all the poor guy's been through over the years. For that matter, I'd like to see all the characters eventually win big. Hanners healed, Marigold out of her shell... but unless new characters are introduced, that would be the end of QC.

Some Soap Operas manage it. The departure of Ena Sharples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ena_Sharples) did not mean the death of "Coronation Street (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_Street)" though it was never the same again.

BTW one of the few series older than "Dr Who"...

This has happened once before with Dora.  To show the passage of time we see her try to grow her hair out without dying it.  So we skipped about a year of Martens's life to see the "juicy parts."  It was the same for Wil and his American Tour but he and Penelope fell off the earth after their happy ending.

We may see the end of QC but I think Jeph has a lot of story still to tell and I can't see him starting a new project.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Mar 2013, 09:55
It's a post count-based title. Anyone with 7000-7999 posts has it. 8000-9999 is "Mayan calendar conspirator" and 10000+ is "DICKFISH". There may or may not be higher levels, I'm not sure.
If I were admin, I'd make anyone with 1,000,000 posts "Jeph", but have it hidden so nobody knew until they reached it (which I'm pretty sure would never happen).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoutfellow on 16 Mar 2013, 11:41
Hepzibah is also a minor character in the Marvel comics universe, usually in the X-Men books. She's a humanoid skunk woman space pirate.

If I recall correctly, that is not her name, and she's quite insistent about it. Corsair calls (called? It's been a long time) her that, because of her resemblance to Mam'selle Hepzibah, who was Pogo's lady friend in (of course) "Pogo".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Mar 2013, 11:45
The post count titles were in place before I was admin. I've changed just three or four. Coprophage is not one I thought up.  Dickfish is the top level; they are all listed in the wiki, which I think has them up to date.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jesslc on 16 Mar 2013, 11:51
Epic trolling. I love it!

Troll on Mr Jacques, troll on... :-D

Still doesn't change the fact I think they make out far better as great friends.  Let's face it, it would appear Marten is the first outside source she's told about her past.  I think it's better for them both to have a strong relationship on a purely platonic basis than screwing everything up with romance...

....

The only thing I'd say is Claire is Faye without any sexual tension or romantic attraction.

I agree. They're comfortable together because they don't have that sexual tension - we've seen how awkward Claire gets around guys she finds attractive. I also agree with whoever said they were getting a Hanners and Sven (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1768) vibe from this comic - it reminded me of that too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jesslc on 16 Mar 2013, 11:59
My prediction: (probably wrong)

Marten wakes up to find they are sort of snuggling together. While he's still half asleep - "whuh? buh? what?" - Claire talks in her sleep something about Henry (or possibly Steve) "Oh Henry you so fine... you so fine you blow my mind..."

Not those exact words obviously.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kixie on 16 Mar 2013, 13:10
Would QC be QC if Marten got into a stable "and they all lived happily ever after" situation? Would QC be able to carry on with its emotional dramas if the main character essentially bowed out from the emotional melodrama? I think it would, but it would be a catastrophic (as in sudden discontinuity) change of direction.

I would like to see Marten actually win first prize, after all the poor guy's been through over the years. For that matter, I'd like to see all the characters eventually win big. Hanners healed, Marigold out of her shell... but unless new characters are introduced, that would be the end of QC.

The outcome would depend on exactly how well Jephzibah could write it. I have faith in his abilities, and based on his previous track record, I'd have to say he could probably write whatever he pleased and make it still just as amazing/loveable/funny as always. I personally agree that it would be nice if the main cast could all have resolutions to their respective issues.. but then, as you noted, I do believe it would drastically change the general feel of the comic.

Also, in most situations, even with the best possible match for a person (character..) relationship wise, there could/would be some type of drama still involved, I'm sure. I'm not personally aware of any couple that's absolutely "perfect" in that there's absolutely no disagreement and both are perfectly content with everything.. although my experience is limited to just that: my experience. This in and of itself, regardless of whom Martin eventually pairs with, could still lead to hilarity, sadness, both, or anything in between.

As for the other characters, I love their quirks, and I think that even if they were able to work out those issues to a more level mental/emotional balance, those quirks would still be present in at least a diminished fashion of some sort (And, at this point in comic time, I do believe that is somewhat the case).

I thought Dora and Martin were just the most cutest and fitting couple, and then alla sudden, explosions of nuclear proportion mixed with tears and yelling "WHY JEPH WHY!?!?!". But thaaaat's QC for ya!

Quote from: Jeph
I am trolling you guys pretty hard
-hugs the troll-
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 13:16
About 250 images, chosen from randomly by a rewrite function in Apache - see here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,25295.msg975216.html#msg975216).

(Actually, since then I've made it a two-stage lookup, to get over a bug when the lines in the file listing the images get too long - it still fits in two lines, though.)
I see, thanks. I may never try it, but the process is interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 16 Mar 2013, 13:33
If Marten were ever to get into a stable, long term 'Happy Ever After' relationship, the entire QC Universe would collapse in a puff of unsmoke.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 16 Mar 2013, 14:17
If Marten were ever to get into a stable, long term 'Happy Ever After' relationship, the entire QC Universe would collapse in a puff of unsmoke.
It's like his relationship with Dora never happened.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Mar 2013, 15:07
I just gotta say; sleepy-time Claire is adorable. Like a lil' fluffy kitten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 16 Mar 2013, 17:52
If Marten were ever to get into a stable, long term 'Happy Ever After' relationship, the entire QC Universe would collapse in a puff of unsmoke.

Quote from: Hitch-hiker's guide to Northampton
Some say if Marten's love life ever reached a positive resolution, it would instantly vanish and be replaced by something even more inexplicable. Others say this has already happened.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bluesummers on 16 Mar 2013, 18:38
Congrats, Jeph...this is the first time since joining the forum that I have been motivated enough to change my avatar. :parrot:

Shipping? No, I'm just...uh...kayaking. Yeah, that's it. :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Mar 2013, 18:49
If Marten were ever to get into a stable, long term 'Happy Ever After' relationship, the entire QC Universe would collapse in a puff of unsmoke.
It's like his relationship with Dora never happened.
Ha, yeah, Marten's relationship with Dora was pretty solid at most points, and lasted about half of the entire run (including the strips since) and probably about two years in comic. Just because Marten might start another relationship doesn't mean that'll end the comic, or for that matter, that his next relationship will be his last one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Mar 2013, 19:39
Jeph equated stable relationship for Marten & Faye = end of QC.

So, if he wanted Marten to have a stable relationship, Faye & Angus would have to disappear.

HOWEVER, he has also said Marten will likely never have a stable LTR, so there's that.

He's still trolling us, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Mar 2013, 20:36
What Jeph says is either irrelevant or a spoiler in this case...and I'd like to think that he wouldn't spoil.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 16 Mar 2013, 21:04
 He also said he would never do a wedding arc  :-P .
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Mar 2013, 21:10
When he says he'll never do something, he means he'll never do it until he does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Mar 2013, 21:16
I just want to see Marten happy. He seems to be with Claire, but if Marten found someone else he could be happy with, I'd be just as glad. I kinda get the feeling he isn't as happy as he used to be, because the rings under his eyes that appeared after Dora broke up with him have never truly went away.
Why does Jephzibah not like seeing his characters happy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 16 Mar 2013, 21:17
Re: everyone getting their issue "fixed" thus ending QC: I don't see that happening, ever. That's one of the awesome/terrible thing about people and their issues; you never really get "fixed". Hanners' OCD is never going away, Faye is always going to have attachment issues. People can grow and change and put their pasts behind them, but those things are always going to be part of who they are. I don't think Jeph is going to run out of comics to write for a long time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 16 Mar 2013, 21:45
People can grow and change and put their pasts behind them, but those things are always going to be part of who they are.
That'll do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Mar 2013, 05:54
I just want to see Marten happy. He seems to be with Claire, but if Marten found someone else he could be happy with, I'd be just as glad. I kinda get the feeling he isn't as happy as he used to be, because the rings under his eyes that appeared after Dora broke up with him have never truly went away.
Why does Jephzibah not like seeing his characters happy.

You need to acquaint yourself with the Jephzibah's tumblr: jephjacques.com.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 17 Mar 2013, 06:04
Also, so what if QC changes due to characters changing (or even becoming uninteresting, being put on a bus, and being replaced by more interesting characters)?

In the beginning, QC was a gag-a-day, with occasional plot leaking in, but nothing serious.

Now, QC is almost entirely plot-driven, with the occasional gag leaking in.

And, characters that became uninteresting (Sara is the first to come to mind) have been put on a bus - hell, that was in the gag-a-day days - and been replaced with other characters. And their replacements put on a bus, and replaced with other characters.

So, QC can survive characters getting into stable relationships.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Mar 2013, 06:32
Jeph still tries to stick a laugh in at the end of the strip, so it's not entirely gag-absent. I mean, the most touching moment in recent memory had the punchline: "YEAH! HUG THE #### OUT OF 'IM!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 17 Mar 2013, 07:28
Right, but just because many strips have punchlines doesn't mean that the whole point of the strip is to present the punchline - the point seems to be to advance the plot, and here's a punchline for the lulz.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 17 Mar 2013, 09:55
Actually, when it first started, it was only two or three gags a week, not a gag a day. 

Until Jeph quit his job as an office bitch...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CrowFairy on 17 Mar 2013, 17:48
When he says he'll never do something, he means he'll never do it until he does.
Yeah, I seem to remember him saying in the newspost for this one (very early on) strip that he was never gonna get more risque than it did there. And it was barely risque at all. I found that and posted about it, but I'm too lazy to dig through my posts and find out which one. :P

The point is that Jeph says that a lot. He is constantly breaking down his own boundaries and making new ones. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 17 Mar 2013, 17:53
And I don't think that Jeph's even said that he wouldn't do a Marten/Claire relationship. (Just that Marten would never be happy, and that was clearly in jest.)

Mind you, he's (in jest) tweeted in horror that he's married to a shipper. (Apparently Cristi ships Marten and Claire.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 17 Mar 2013, 18:42
... He is constantly breaking down his own boundaries and making new ones ...

One of the underlying admirable qualities of this strip, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 18 Mar 2013, 00:48
I know Jeph was worried about getting a transgender character right, but in the last comic when Marten and Claire are looking into each others eyes, my first thought was "Despite the trolling, if these two ever got together the potential children would have pretty eyes no matter what- oh. right. I forgot. I am an idiot."  That's a win for Jeph I think, being able to make me forget a character's origin and look at how they are now. From the very few trans friends I have that seems like the goal and the entire point.  Well done, JJ.

I feel like it may be a mistake to rule that out.

 relevant-ish  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2240)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 18 Mar 2013, 00:53
Good call, mtmerrick.

Not that I expect to see a pregnancy arc for another decade or so.  Of all the boundaries Jeph has set for himself, that one strikes me as the durable one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Mar 2013, 01:05
...Durex-ble?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 18 Mar 2013, 02:32
I know Jeph was worried about getting a transgender character right, but in the last comic when Marten and Claire are looking into each others eyes, my first thought was "Despite the trolling, if these two ever got together the potential children would have pretty eyes no matter what- oh. right. I forgot. I am an idiot."  That's a win for Jeph I think, being able to make me forget a character's origin and look at how they are now. From the very few trans friends I have that seems like the goal and the entire point.  Well done, JJ.

I feel like it may be a mistake to rule that out.

 relevant-ish  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2240)

We are working on the technology, too.

It's easier with two females - there we have natural examples. Not many, but there are some Intersex women who have, with technical help, become biological fathers. The female reproductive system is really complex, but the male one can be 95% missing or dysfunctional and still allow the possibility.

It does cause my son some social difficulties though. He often refers to me as his aunt, not his father, except to those he trusts.

In a post-singularity world... yes, it may be possible sooner than the 2025 deadline I think we'll have here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 18 Mar 2013, 02:39
Though Jeph seems to use a bit different definition of singularity than other people.

 I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The next 25 years are gonna be freakin awesome. The amount of technological breakthroughs we are so very close to are just amazing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Technetium on 18 Mar 2013, 07:55
You've missed a lot in your absence, including several people explaining in depth why what you just said is horribly inappropriate. You can find it yourself, it's on previous WCDTs and a thread in DISCUSS, but it boils down to "Claire is a woman and it's quite disrespectful, if not downright insulting, to say otherwise. Speculation on what is under her pants is also inappropriate."
Is this a real post.

We're talking about a fictional character, right? I do not think I need to worry about her being offended or insulted by my comments.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 18 Mar 2013, 07:58
hmmm. I don't see this ending well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Ruhtrax on 18 Mar 2013, 08:00
Hm ... This is now interesting again ...
At least on the romance side ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Mar 2013, 08:02
Mind you, he's (in jest) tweeted in horror that he's married to a shipper. (Apparently Cristi ships Marten and Claire.)

Ohhhhh no.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2013, 08:12
You've missed a lot in your absence, including several people explaining in depth why what you just said is horribly inappropriate. You can find it yourself, it's on previous WCDTs and a thread in DISCUSS, but it boils down to "Claire is a woman and it's quite disrespectful, if not downright insulting, to say otherwise. Speculation on what is under her pants is also inappropriate."
Is this a real post.

We're talking about a fictional character, right? I do not think I need to worry about her being offended or insulted by my comments.
Just because you're talking about a fictional character doesn't mean that you can't offend real people by making assumptions about her. Just be careful in the future, ok?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Mar 2013, 08:49
Is this a real post.

Yes.  There are people who can be offended by an inappropriate attitude even when discussing a comic.  You have the opportunity in this forum to learn about the issues and to practice getting it right before you find yourself causing upset in the real real world.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 18 Mar 2013, 08:55
For some reason I am suddenly recalling that there are a lot of sayings related to how moral fibre is displayed best when one is required to interact with those who can't respond….
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Technetium on 18 Mar 2013, 09:18
Is this a real post.

Yes.  There are people who can be offended by an inappropriate attitude even when discussing a comic.  You have the opportunity in this forum to learn about the issues and to practice getting it right before you find yourself causing upset in the real real world.
Alternately, those people who are offended could try to have a thicker skin. Shit son, the world is not going to mold itself to fit your insecurities. You can crack jokes about short people, hell you can call me a midget if you want, I will probably laugh right with you. There was a time when I was young and might have responded the same way you are now, but I got over being an idiot and put more attention on being awesome now. There are thousands of different things that individual people are insecure about, and to expect all of society to know how to tiptoe around your own issue among all the others is unrealistic. Learn to roll with the blows instead and you'll be a lot happier.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Mar 2013, 09:21
You've missed a lot in your absence, including several people explaining in depth why what you just said is horribly inappropriate. You can find it yourself, it's on previous WCDTs and a thread in DISCUSS, but it boils down to "Claire is a woman and it's quite disrespectful, if not downright insulting, to say otherwise. Speculation on what is under her pants is also inappropriate."
Is this a real post.

We're talking about a fictional character, right? I do not think I need to worry about her being offended or insulted by my comments.

Everything said above has been the outcome of thoughtful discussion, but if it doesn't make sense try an analogy.

You wouldn't post speculation about whether "It" is true about Dale's downstairs equipment, even if you knew that nobody in the forum was African-American. Same principle.

Marten's content to treat her as a woman.

Quote from: Technetium
hell you can call me a midget if you want

And the moderators would treat it as a violation of the civility rule if someone did. It's still flamebait if nobody takes the bait.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 18 Mar 2013, 10:06
There was a time when I was young and might have responded the same way you are now, but I got over being an idiot and put more attention on being awesome now.
implying all of us are idiots
So what, because we're trying to be sensible about about a fictional character we on this forum all love (and the people that might identity with said character), we're being idiots and not-awesome? Right.
There's a difference to "rolling with the blow" and dealing said blows. And that being said, no one has to roll if nobody deals blows. If people tell you it's a sensitive topic for them, you try your best to be sensible about it.
And you don't run around telling people they're idiots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Mar 2013, 10:06
Learn to roll with the blows instead and you'll be a lot happier.

In this forum, you need to roll with us.

This is not up for discussion, so I'm closing this thread now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2401-2405 (11-15 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Mar 2013, 11:46
Additional moderation note:

Will everyone please direct their attention to the fact that the moderation team is unanimous about this.