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Title: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 04 May 2013, 22:33
Another week, another WCDT where we speculate aimlessly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 04 May 2013, 22:41
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 May 2013, 22:53
Mmmm time for breakfast.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 04 May 2013, 23:11
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.
DOKYA will send Steve to hunt down evil Doktor Müsli, the infamous cereal killer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 05 May 2013, 01:38
I wonder what Pintsize is downloading this week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 May 2013, 01:48
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.

Perhaps instead of giving a definite answer Jeph will waffle on the subject.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 May 2013, 07:17
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.

Dirty version. Same cereal. Same 4 panels.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 05 May 2013, 08:58
I wonder what Pintsize is downloading this week.
Same thing he downloads every week.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 05 May 2013, 09:03
I wonder what cereal Steve is eating this week.

Dirty version. Same cereal. Same 4 panels.

(click to show/hide)

Or maybe
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 May 2013, 10:09
This so needs to happen, someone mail Jephzibah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 05 May 2013, 14:31
My messed up brain still reads Jephzibah as Jephlizabeth. >_<
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 05 May 2013, 18:36
I wonder what Pintsize is downloading this week.
Same thing he downloads every week.  :-D


Narf
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 May 2013, 23:43
Fran spelled backwards. He's downloading pictures of Fran.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 05 May 2013, 23:47
Pintsize being Pintsize, I shudder for Fran, whoever she may be.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 May 2013, 00:01
*wince* well no one's going to accuse you of being a smooth operator that's for sure Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 06 May 2013, 00:08
Classy Angus is classy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 06 May 2013, 00:08
Wtf? Faye's right ear is double-pierced? Is that a retcon?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 00:10
The Pugnacious Peach should finish college. Not that she asked me or that it's my business.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jesslc on 06 May 2013, 00:21
Uh oh...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2013, 00:41
No, jesslc, we've been trying to ship the demise of Fayengus for years. It doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 01:00
It's the tumidity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 06 May 2013, 01:05
In reference to Northampton, MA, which particular settlement is "the city"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 May 2013, 01:06
Boston would be my bet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 06 May 2013, 01:27
Most likely New York.  The only time you call Boston "the city" is if you're basically already there (e.g., in Reading or somewhere).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2013, 01:32
Angus has referred to NYC as "the City" before, so it's not the first time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 06 May 2013, 02:10
Angus has this"I'm planning for the rest of my life" attitude on him.
It's creeping me out. The thought of planning anything further ahead than half a year just scares me so much. It's like, when you plan that much, you always need a contingency plan in case of failure, and I don't want to think about stuff like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBiscuit on 06 May 2013, 02:43
Faye's reaction is a strange one if she actually likes Angus and stuff...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 06 May 2013, 03:10
I very much liked this. Faye is (not unnaturally) scared about trying to pursue her dream (if sculpting is her dream job?) 100 per cent. Angus (and in the past Dora) are the two people who can try and give her the nudge. Angus is (again) being Angus in his blunt way that somehow also manages to convey his desire to be a part of Faye's future.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 06 May 2013, 03:19
I can empathize with both characters here:

A.  Faye, because I can never have deep conversations with Mrs BR late at night due to being a morning person and usually have been awake for a significant portion of the day at that point;  and
B.  Angus, because I am a heterosexual male....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Moanerette on 06 May 2013, 03:56
Faye's reaction is a strange one if she actually likes Angus and stuff...

I don't think so. He's just annoyed her by asking one of those unanswerable job-interview questions and hassling her about the future. Then when she tries to turn it back on him he gets the punchline in. This would aggravate anyone, surely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 06 May 2013, 04:19
Yeah. Pretty much, but that is Angus, and Faye likes him that way. And he is *ahem* ball-deeply into her...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 06 May 2013, 04:39
Strangely, her grumpy-face in panel five reminded me in a small way of Dora.

Maybe it's more revealing of how I see Dora than anything else.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 06 May 2013, 05:00
Wtf? Faye's right ear is double-pierced? Is that a retcon?

It's double pierced in 2411 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2411), 2419 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2419), 2424 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2424), and probably many other earlier ones.

Her left ear also appears to be double pierced in many strips, presumably they match (which admittedly isn't always the case with some people).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 05:05
From last week's thread.
"Balls Deep in Faye's Jacuzzi" would be a good band name.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 May 2013, 05:08
When you get to my age, you start planning more than half a year in advance, mostly because you have to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 06 May 2013, 05:20
Wtf? Faye's right ear is double-pierced? Is that a retcon?

It's double pierced in 2411 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2411), 2419 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2419), 2424 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2424), and probably many other earlier ones.

Her left ear also appears to be double pierced in many strips, presumably they match (which admittedly isn't always the case with some people).

Back at 2006 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2006) Faye's hair is too long to easily see her ears, the next time we see her in 2016 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2016), it's cut slightly differently, and we can see her ears, and still can since it's continued to be styled similarly.  Jeph obviously doesn't write her hairdresser appointments into the strip!

More interestingly, I've yet to find a strip since that point where we see her wearing any sort of ear adornment, unless she has studs that are too small to easily see in the strips.

Angus does do spectacularly well in going from "deep relationship question" to "Nookie time?" in a very short period of time. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 06:01
I'm already thinking about my plans for when I finish school in 2016. Sometimes I think about decades from now. Five years isn't that strange.
No, jesslc, we've been trying to ship the demise of Fayengus for years. It doesn't work like that.
Who's this "we" you speak of?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tassaron on 06 May 2013, 06:12
I feel like I should know Angus better than I actually do, given how much screentime he has had (not recently, but in the past). I'd actually really like it if Jeph took a break from torturing Marten and the interns and gave Faye and Angus something to do. (Although it's getting a bit funny how Tai and Dora hooked up only to be shuffled aside immediately...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 06 May 2013, 06:55
Angus has this"I'm planning for the rest of my life" attitude on him.
It's creeping me out. The thought of planning anything further ahead than half a year just scares me so much. It's like, when you plan that much, you always need a contingency plan in case of failure, and I don't want to think about stuff like that.

Agreed.  And I hate that stupid question employers occasionally ask.  If I could answer that question, I wouldn't be interviewing for this job.  I'd be getting filthy rich winning bets because I could see into the future. :roll:

Understand Faye completely.  Talk about being put on the spot.  At probably midnight.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 06 May 2013, 07:28
There's so much projection going on in this thread we could show a movie!

As far as the comic itself goes, Angus went with a sex joke to defuse the tension from her refusal to talk seriously with him.

Angus is planning on moving to NY. That's where the jobs are for him, and he clearly likes it there. He loves Faye, and he wants her to come with him and be with her, but if it comes down to staying put because of her neuroses or pursuing his dreams and unwillingness to grow up and face the future, dreams should win (being held back from pursuing the dreams would kill the love anyway). He wanted some variation of "with you," and since he didn't get it things aren't looking too good for them. Not thinking about the future is generally bad for the future, as any corporation paying cleanup costs can verify.

To other people in the thread, Faye is in her late 20s. She needs to start thinking about the future now even if it's hard, because holding a menial service position isn't exactly providing great medical benefits or a retirement plan. 5 year questions are actually about the present; do you want to stay in stasis (Faye), advance (I wanna be president!), or excel (I'll be the best damn sculptor on the Eastern Seaboard)? And no, you don't need a contingency plan. Just go with a basic outline of what you want to do and give it your best shot. If it doesn't work, make a new plan. I've made 2 in the last few years as it became clear the previous one wasn't going to work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2013, 08:19
When you get to my age, you start planning more than half a year in advance, mostly because you have to.

Unless you cant. 



I hate flying without a net. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 06 May 2013, 08:31
At one of my last jobs, they wanted everyone to do a "five year plan".  Since I was a contractor, and 60 years old at the time, I asked if they wanted me to do a five year plan, because at 60 years old, I didn't have any long term plans.  My supervisor told me that I did have to do the five year plan, and not to give her any crap, because I had more long term plans that any other of her employees. 

I actually did the plan, and was kind of surprised that I did have long term plans. 

Of course, I was laid off shortly thereafter, mostly because of the 9/11 problems. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 09:04
Well I'm going to law school for the next 3 years and I know what job I want for the two years after that. So I know what I plan on doing for the next five years, it's after that I'm still not sure about. (I know what I probably want, but I'm not sure if I can get it right away.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 May 2013, 09:53
My respect for Angus tripled, due to both him being one of the few who seems to care about the future and also the last panel. I don't understand Faye's reaction though; I could get punching him for changing the subject or something, but this seems more like her reaction to hearing stuff she did not need to about Dora/Marten or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 09:58
Because Angus is basically saying the same thing Penelope did, except she actually cares what Angus thinks (and he's saying it a lot nicer).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 06 May 2013, 10:04
I think she was fine with him being balls deep, but didn't quite like the crass way he put it. 

Or maybe his putting it like that and her strong reaction were both played up (by the characters themselves) for comic effect. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 May 2013, 10:19
Because Angus is basically saying the same thing Penelope did, except she actually cares what Angus thinks (and he's saying it a lot nicer).

I meant her reaction to balls deep; the rest makes sense since that can be scary to hear.

ETA- Unless at some point Penelope was saying she wanted to be balls deep in Faye in a much less nice way than Angus did, in which case I missed that and want the link.

rschill: That is possible. Balls deep in anything is a term I very much dislike, so I can sympathize.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 06 May 2013, 10:22
It's possible we're all missing the point; Angus thinks Faye will do so well that in 5 years she'll have a place with a Jacuzzi!

rschill: That is possible. Balls deep in anything is a term I very much dislike, so I can sympathize.
I take it you've never heard of Balls Deep, the lowest point in a trench off of Newfoundland, named after explorer Henry Balls.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 10:24
I meant her reaction to balls deep; the rest makes sense since that can be scary to hear.
In that case, probably because she answered his question seriously even though it clearly made her uncomfortable, and then when she asked him he gave a smartass response.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBiscuit on 06 May 2013, 10:27
Faye's reaction is a strange one if she actually likes Angus and stuff...

I don't think so. He's just annoyed her by asking one of those unanswerable job-interview questions and hassling her about the future. Then when she tries to turn it back on him he gets the punchline in. This would aggravate anyone, surely.
I suppose you've got a point, but I want to go on thinking that I can see some kind of end to Angus being in the strip, so...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 10:28
I'd hardly call it hassling, these are important questions to ask when you're in a serious relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 May 2013, 10:43
Agreed, Madness.

So does this mean there isn't a panel with Penelope angrily wanting to be balls deep in Faye? Because even though I don't ship that, it sounds hilarious and I'm kind of disappointed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 06 May 2013, 10:44
I'd hardly call it hassling, these are important questions to ask when you're in a serious relationship.

I don't think Angus went about it smoothest of ways though.  His response was basically a "well, why wouldn't you wanna move.  The financial gain, etc."  Kinda crass way to put that considering Hanners, Marten, and Dora are basically family to Faye.  Really tight, close family and after that mess with her father, the seed of loss in her doesn't wanna be too far from them.  And having that conversation in the middle of the night randomly.  Wouldn't be my first choice.

Faye seems to like comfort and familiarity now. 

Anyway, she'd probably irked because she wanted to know what Angus really wanted 5 years from now and he made a joke instead.  That looks like a panic attack face on Faye in the last panel.

[I'm actually surprised they've gone this long without having any kind of fight.  Not that this as regressed to a fight yet, but they've been the "perfect couple" as it were to date.  Bout time they had some drama in their relationship]

Anyway, on the 5 year thing.  I think it is just laziness on the part of interviewers to ask it.  Same for the retarded "what are you weaknesses" question.  Really stupid question.  Turns the focus onto what you suck at, rather than what you are really really good at. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 11:17
You actually make an interesting point that I hadn't thought of. This shows how little Angus really knows Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 06 May 2013, 11:33
You actually make an interesting point that I hadn't thought of. This shows how little Angus really knows Faye.

Yeah, come to think of it.  A good situation with stable friends is not all that easy to find.  She kinda lucked into Marten.  And likewise for Marten.  They were both rather lonely in the beginning of the strip.  Now they have a nice sized circle of friends. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 06 May 2013, 11:42
As I see it, Angus does answer the question. If he had said "with you", Faye might have felt bad for not saying that. So he phrases it in a humorous manner.

I don't think he was fishing for "with you" from Faye. If so, his follow up questions are very strange. When asked, he can not very well say "In New York". After what Faye has just said, that would imply "with or without you".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 12:00

[I'm actually surprised they've gone this long without having any kind of fight.  Not that this as regressed to a fight yet, but they've been the "perfect couple" as it were to date.  Bout time they had some drama in their relationship]


On screen, they had the toilet seat fight, and the argument about music that Marten brought to a halt. Off screen, it's all but certain there have been others.

That was a deeply insightful point you made about Faye's need for a close circle of friends. Her answer still made me unhappy for her. Jeph has said that CoD pays barely enough to live on. It's not the sort of thing to make permanent, unless you're working for someone near retirement from whom you might inherit the shop, or are pursuing baristaness/baristahood/baristiture as your life's ars gratia artis.

(Is Coffee of Doom a baristocracy?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 06 May 2013, 12:31
I read as Angus's response to her initial blowoff as "you have so much potential and I want to see you achieve it."

Her answer doesn't indicate that her friends are the reason, so we can't assume that. All her answer really suggests is the recurring theme of her being aimless and unmotivated.

The assumption that he asked out of the blue in the middle of the night has come up several times, but we have no idea what preceded this.

Her face looks more like "TMI!" than "PANIC!"

Interviewer questions about the future and weaknesses are more about looking for how you can turn things around- when they ask about the future, they want to know what you'll do in the present, and they ask about your weaknesses to see how you overcome them.

No, CoD is a dictatorship with baristasants.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 06 May 2013, 12:38
... Hanners, Marten, and Dora are basically family to Faye.  Really tight, close family and after that mess with her father, the seed of loss in her doesn't wanna be too far from them ... Faye seems to like comfort and familiarity now ...

Exactly, Faye hasn't particularly had an easy time of it, with her father especially, so the relative current stability, and closeness is likely to be something she'll value, and doesn't want to lose, even if she could be making more money.  This may not be an entirely conscious thought, but it's likely that the thought of loosing any of that (and she doesn't need to move, or change friends) is not going to generate a positive response, although it may start her thinking about things.

The others in the story aren't necessarily paragons of financial stability either, Marten and Marigold both have made significant expenditures, albeit on Momo's new chassis in Marigold's case which is slightly more sensible than Marten's instruments.

... And having that conversation in the middle of the night randomly ... Anyway, she'd probably irked because she wanted to know what Angus really wanted 5 years from now and he made a joke instead. ...

That was spectacularly stupid of Angus to refuse to answer her, when she replied in a reasonable, if not ideal way, to his question, and he then choose to make light of it when she asked the same thing.

... I'm actually surprised they've gone this long without having any kind of fight ...

They did start off with some minor fighting in CoD, albeit being Angus' way to introduce himself to Faye, and her natural tendency to be sharp towards all of the customers, and especially any who tried to be clever back at her.

Having said that, most people manage to occasionally do stupid things in relationships, and phrase things in a less than optimal fashion.  I certainly have, and I'm sure most of us on here have as well.  Doing and saying stupid things, especially when lying in bed, and possibly not thinking quite as clearly as when fully awake, is just one of those facts of life, and which you normally regret later with a "why did I say that?".  It also makes for a more exciting storyline.


Interviewers use questions like "Where do you want to be in five years" and "What are your weaknesses?" because they should invoke a certain sort of thoughtful response, although this sort of question is used so much now, that all it really does is demonstrate whether you've planned for the interview by coming up with a suitable answer prior to the interview (I know I would).  It's not really a useful question any more, and just suggests an interviewer without much originality in their planning.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 06 May 2013, 13:26
Back at 2006 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2006) Faye's hair is too long to easily see her ears, the next time we see her in 2016 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2016), it's cut slightly differently, and we can see her ears, and still can since it's continued to be styled similarly. ...

Someone posted a link to 1199 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199) in another thread, and Faye has the double piercing in her right ear there as well, clearly visible in the second panel, so it has been around for quite a while.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2013, 13:44
On the "middle of the night" thing...

Please note that in the first few panels, Faye has her glasses on and is checking her phone (messages/email/whatever).  This is not the middle of the night, this is settling in for the night.  Not an unusual time to have a discussion and a few musings, and not an uncommon time at all to be thinking (worrying?) about the future. 

Angus' last trip to the city may have resulted in an opportunity that he's thinking about, and he's trying to break it to her... or he just feels that they'd both have a better life there. 

I don't think this is the beginning of the end or anything, but it's definitely an important question in a relationship that has been going on for a while.  Some people never face it, and just go with the flow.  But Angus isn't the type to avoid anything - he's facing it head on, rather like the way he courted Faye. 

How long have they been dating now, anyway?  They were wearing coats soon after it started (Fall?) and it's summer now - maybe 8 - 9 months or so? 


That's serious territory...

Not as long as Wil and Penne, but getting there! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 06 May 2013, 14:36
I just wondered "how long have Wil and Penny been together?" and holy archive dive, it's almost half the history of the comic. In less than a hundred strips they'll overtake Dora and Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Latias on 06 May 2013, 14:57
Regarding the "balls deep" comment and Faye's reaction to it, I believe it is a reference to anal sex. I am asexual and thus not intimately familiar with sexual slang, but the context I've heard it used in before makes it sound very much like a term meant for anal sex. The reaction makes perfect sense if Faye finds anal sex disgusting or otherwise unappealing.

(Although it's getting a bit funny how Tai and Dora hooked up only to be shuffled aside immediately...)

Of course. Marten is the primary focus of the comic, and two secondary characters suddenly being in a relationship doesn't change the overall focus to them. Tai and Dora's relationship is far from the first between secondary characters - in fact, there are three others currently ongoing (Faye/Angus, Will/Penelope, Steve/Cosette) which are all on the sidelines. That's just how the webcomic works.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 May 2013, 15:33
The reaction makes perfect sense if Faye finds anal sex disgusting or otherwise unappealing.

This interpretation makes sense but makes me sad, both because Faye is THAT opposed to anal and because Angus is joking about it despite her feelings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 15:33
Dora is, on the other hand, the center of the social circle.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 15:34
Latias, don't be filthy, he's clearly talking about filling her jacuzzi with playpen balls (http://xkcd.com/150/) and jumping in. (Seriously, though, it could mean any orifice I suppose, as long as one is sufficiently inserted.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: toffee-skye on 06 May 2013, 15:37
i dreamt about Claire the other night.. very vividly. o.o

in other news: i do agree with those above, Angus wasn't very tactful with it. it seemed to smell a bit of "but there's all these positives to moving, what's WRONG with you?". seemed a bit accusatory, and whether or not that was what Jeph intended, that's how it came across. i'm with Faye on this one. bit of a fail on Angus' part.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 06 May 2013, 15:46
very vividly?
how vivid? are we talking bad accident in the morning vivid or "ZOMG I'M IN A DREAM WITH MY FAVOURITE CARTOON CHARACTER" vivid?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 06 May 2013, 16:05
...what's the difference?

No, CoD is a dictatorship with baristasants.

This reminds me of a joke.

The punchline is "The baristacrats".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 16:10
How'd they fit an entire espresso machine up there? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 06 May 2013, 16:21
Which shop is known
for staff who show their claws?
Which shop has staff
who'll scowl and charge you more?
Which shop makes you wear
the little haaaaats?
Naturellement! The baristacrats!

Yes, I know that the shop isn't called...I'm tired and I knocked it out in about two minutes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 16:25
Was that from the Baristacats?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 06 May 2013, 17:19
I just wondered "how long have Wil and Penny been together?" and holy archive dive, it's almost half the history of the comic. In less than a hundred strips they'll overtake Dora and Marten.

I think the allosaurus' got Penelope.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 06 May 2013, 17:30
There's so much projection going on in this thread we could show a movie!

Wow. I think I've found my new signature.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Moanerette on 06 May 2013, 19:03
Some interesting thoughts.

It's not that I think that a couple shouldn't ever discuss the future, simply that dropping a glib question like that on someone who's about to go to sleep strikes me as rather asinine - and from her response, it seems that Faye thinks the same. It's unwelcome noise. Then when she tries to turn the tables, he cops out with a crude gag, despite her obviously being a bit rattled and not showing any signs of being 'in the mood'. No hanging offence, but somewhat irksome. Time and a place and all that. Am I projecting? Possibly, but I think it's a fair reading. Could be setting up an interesting storyline for these two, anyway.

 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 20:35
Didn't Marigold describe Angus as a good guy whose mouth gets ahead of his brain sometimes?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 06 May 2013, 20:52
 New comic.

 Please tell me that:
 
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 May 2013, 20:57
Dun dun dun!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 06 May 2013, 21:00
Angus' last trip to the city may have resulted in an opportunity that he's thinking about, and he's trying to break it to her...


Holy crap! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 06 May 2013, 21:11
It's not enough for Angus to meet Stephen Colbert, he needs to be Stephen Colbert (by following a similar career path).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 06 May 2013, 21:14
angus noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I'll be sad if Jeph writes Angus out. I like him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 21:29
Who is in New York for some reason?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Torlek on 06 May 2013, 21:36
Dora is, on the other hand, the center of the social circle.
I'd say she was the center of the social circle and she was the initial hub that pulled everything together. Now that she's a secondary character again Marten is the center, both in terms of story and in terms of graph connectivity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 06 May 2013, 21:38
Angus really did miss a golden opportunity to bring this topic up with Faye in favour of making a joke... gah. I can only guess that after Faye's response, he was too nervous to actually tell her what he wants.

yay, miscommunication, hilarity ensues.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 06 May 2013, 21:39
Surely it's no longer hosted by Jon Steward, but John Olver.

(...wait, John Olver?  Who gave him a show?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 May 2013, 21:41
Jeph said QC is in a quantum state superposing the current era and 2006.

It's not a prohibitive distance for a commuter relationship but that would be a real challenge to someone with abandonment issues like those of the Pugnacious Peach.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2013, 21:44
The Nightly Show is, of course, aired every day at 10AM.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 06 May 2013, 21:50
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 06 May 2013, 21:56
There's so much projection going on in this thread we could show a movie!
Wow. I think I've found my new signature.
Glad I could help!

Angus' last trip to the city may have resulted in an opportunity that he's thinking about, and he's trying to break it to her...
Holy crap!
*Cough*
Angus is planning on moving to NY. That's where the jobs are for him, and he clearly likes it there. He loves Faye, and he wants her to come with him and be with her, but if it comes down to staying put because of her neuroses or pursuing his dreams and unwillingness to grow up and face the future, dreams should win (being held back from pursuing the dreams would kill the love anyway). He wanted some variation of "with you," and since he didn't get it things aren't looking too good for them. Not thinking about the future is generally bad for the future, as any corporation paying cleanup costs can verify.
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 May 2013, 22:20
As I just said aloud to boyfriend:
I think they should break up and he should do it because I don't think it would work for the cast to have a TV guy and I don't think Faye could do a long distance relationship and I don't think Faye should leave.

My sentence structure is much worse aloud, thus the ROS, but I stand by that. I don't think Faye leaving would be good, for the aforementioned reasons about her "family" and stable everything being there, and I think she would be bad at/unhappy in a long distance relationship. I also don't think Angus should stunt himself nor that a regular character should be a TV host, because the former is sad and the later is blah.

Of course, perhaps they would agree he should try, and he would fail, and it would be fine.

ETA- Good job to the guessers!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 06 May 2013, 22:30
I predict that Angus is going to ask someone for advice.

Maybe Steve who is going to offer him some cereal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 06 May 2013, 22:48
The plot thickens
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 06 May 2013, 23:04
The plot thickens
Nah, that's just the oatmeal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bunnyThor on 06 May 2013, 23:12
Buh-Bye, Angus!


Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.


Hope to hear from you never!


(http://www.hogdb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/WellBye-200x114.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 06 May 2013, 23:19
Buh-Bye, Angus!
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Hope to hear from you never!
Someone is handling this much better than they should. :-D

@Comic:
So "the city" was NY. Huh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 07 May 2013, 00:50
Buh-Bye, Angus!

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Hope to hear from you never!

... but that would not be good for Faye, since as others have said, she probably has abandonment issues, so Angus leaving her for a job in NY would probably make her unhappy, and I like a happy Faye!

The alternative is Angus not doing that, and being resentful towards Faye for limiting his career choices (although if he had intentions in that direction, you would kind of wonder why he's not somewhere like NY already).

Heh, it'll make for some interesting developments either way, but I don't want to see Faye going back to her old sarcy character, even if that probably works better for the strip!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 May 2013, 01:06
Buh-Bye, Angus!

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Hope to hear from you never!

... but that would not be good for Faye, since as others have said, she probably has abandonment issues, so Angus leaving her for a job in NY would probably make her unhappy, and I like a happy Faye!

The alternative is Angus not doing that, and being resentful towards Faye for limiting his career choices (although if he had intentions in that direction, you would kind of wonder why he's not somewhere like NY already).

Heh, it'll make for some interesting developments either way, but I don't want to see Faye going back to her old sarcy character, even if that probably works better for the strip!
He's always been interested in comedic acting. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1734)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 07 May 2013, 01:09
You know, I was just thinking, that strip is a huge FOREBODE if Angus were to leave for NYC in the end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 May 2013, 01:28
Quote
Big news! People have been clamoring for a QC iOS app for a long time, and now there finally is one! NOT ONLY THAT, it contains dozens of other fantastic webcomics! It is called Comic Chameleon and if you have an iPhone or iPad you should totally check it out.

Thanks for ignoring your fans on Android.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 07 May 2013, 01:38
Thanks for ignoring your fans on Android.
Quote from: pwhodges
Comic Chameleon is a mobile app, for iOS only at present, but Android will come
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 07 May 2013, 01:52
Thanks for ignoring your fans on Android.

Android is next in their plans; there will also be a specific iPad version in time, and the opportunity to pay for a premium ad-free version.  Even Blackberry has been mentioned as a possibility.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 May 2013, 01:56
Thanks for ignoring your fans on Android.

Android is next in their plans; there will also be a specific iPad version in time, and the opportunity to pay for a premium ad-free version.  Even Blackberry has been mentioned as a possibility.

Wish these app developers do the Android platforms at the same damn time. It's like they don't want my money.....

Edit: App developers, not Jeph, just to be clear.....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Truec on 07 May 2013, 01:58
I would be totally in favor of the entire cast up and moving to New York.  They could all live in the same apartment building in those rent controlled apartments that only exist in sitcoms.  Marten could become a subway busker.  Dora could open a CoD franchise managed by Hannelore.  Steve could delve into whole new varieties of cereal he's never experienced before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 07 May 2013, 02:13
Wish these app developers do the Android platforms at the same damn time. It's like they don't want my money.....

Edit: App developers, not Jeph, just to be clear.....

This is migrating off topic, but iOS development tends to require less effort (much, much, MUCH fewer devices and OS versions to test on), with much more reward (more paying customers - Android users tend to be more cheap, so we're not as good of a target for paid software (I'm an Android user, too, although I don't care about this app, I get my comics via RSS)). Which is why other OSes tend to come later.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 07 May 2013, 02:23
Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff........

Run after her. Talk about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bunnyThor on 07 May 2013, 02:30
Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff........

Run after her. Talk about it.


No, no! The opposite!
Run away from her! Leave silently!  :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 07 May 2013, 02:45
pursuing baristaness/baristahood/baristiture as your life's ars gratia artis.
Ars gratia baristis? Of Angus' situation one might continue:

Vita brevis,
ars longa,
occasio praeceps,
experimentum periculosum,
iudicium difficile.

(click to show/hide)

Angus might feel it is best to see if he passes the audition before breaking it to Faye. Tricky.  :-\
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 07 May 2013, 03:13
Angus might feel it is best to see if he passes the audition before breaking it to Faye. Tricky.  :-\

Silly Angus, this is a comic strip! OF COURSE you'll pass the audition!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 May 2013, 03:49
No, no! The opposite!
Run away from her! Leave silently!  :angel:
If only that wasn't completely out of character. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 07 May 2013, 03:51
Silly Angus, this is a comic strip! OF COURSE you'll pass the audition!  :mrgreen:

Pfff... Lubricus, watch and learn, ahem:

Angus leaves for the audition in NY without telling Faye his intentions (he makes something up about work).

While he is away, Faye finds the flyer / Angus' boss calls for an emergency gig.

Angus fails the audition and upon returning is faced with an aggravated Faye all going "Why didn't you tell me?! Don't you trust me?!"

They fight, Faye storms out, cue regular sitcom bullshit until equilibrium sets back in after about 20 awkward strips about handling arguments and relationships better.

BAM! ... I feel dirty now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 07 May 2013, 04:25
Nah, I think it fits better with Angus' character that he will succeed at such an audition. And the drama resulting from his having to move to NY with or without Faye fits better with the overall theme of the comic, too, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 07 May 2013, 04:54
Or, Jeph will screw with us by writing the arc so that at dinner, Angus and Faye talk it out, come to a reasonable decision, and then Pintsize will do something to make us all forget the previous few panels.

Interesting foreshadowing though - Jeph's usually a little less obvious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 07 May 2013, 05:02
But would it be in Angus' character to just up and go like that? He loves Faye, and knows her history with her father, and as such would have an inkling of what could likely happen if he did leave her behind (which could probably be more dramatic than mere drama).

But that being said, Faye will definitely feel like a bitch for not letting Angus pursue his dreams. But can she then just up and leave her social circle that she had a hard enough time to build (admittedly it is only about 3 hours away (Google Maps is my friend...)), and build a new life in New York?

How the hell do you compromise in that situation?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: muon on 07 May 2013, 05:21
Angus' expression in panels 4 and 6 is breaking my heart.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 07 May 2013, 06:02
I may be the odd person here but I don't think Angus asking in bed was an odd thing. Around the end of the day is sort of when all my thoughts come together so I have the occasional deep thought to express.

Faye and Angus' relationship seems very solid to me. Yeah, they have spats but they both like the snarkiness of each other. They're not really fights about their relationship. In this case, the night before was cut short but Faye brought it up again and apologised and they calmly, if briefly, talked it out. I would say Angus will bring this up to her again and was hoping to do it the night before, before Faye's answer to his question.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 May 2013, 06:22
Back at 2006 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2006) Faye's hair is too long to easily see her ears, the next time we see her in 2016 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2016), it's cut slightly differently, and we can see her ears, and still can since it's continued to be styled similarly. ...

Someone posted a link to 1199 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199) in another thread, and Faye has the double piercing in her right ear there as well, clearly visible in the second panel, so it has been around for quite a while.
Apparently her left ear is double-pierced too. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1148)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 07 May 2013, 06:57
I now officially predict this thread will hit double-digit pages by Thursday.  :psyduck:

And yes, I was projecting a bit, but it just seemed like Faye/Angus was too much of a good thing. If Dora/Marten meant anything, it was an indication that relationships in this little cleanser-sponsored oeuvre don't last forever.

Long term relationships aren't funny to write, and can actually be difficult to deal with, without resorting to the "Mad About You" effect (essentially having the writers script what happens in their "real" lives).

Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Soulsynger on 07 May 2013, 07:00
Nah, I think it fits better with Angus' character that he will succeed at such an audition. And the drama resulting from his having to move to NY with or without Faye fits better with the overall theme of the comic, too, I think.
Hm... right you are. I've been watching too much Friends lately. ~~
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 May 2013, 07:06
@jwhouk - We're only on page 3 now, not exactly a lightning pace.

@Skewbrow - Why run? He knows where she'll be all day, he can find her if he wants to talk about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MillionDollar Belt Sander on 07 May 2013, 07:34
Silly Angus, this is a comic strip! OF COURSE you'll pass the audition!  :mrgreen:

Pfff... Lubricus, watch and learn, ahem:

Angus leaves for the audition in NY without telling Faye his intentions (he makes something up about work).

While he is away, Faye finds the flyer / Angus' boss calls for an emergency gig.

Angus fails the audition and upon returning is faced with an aggravated Faye all going "Why didn't you tell me?! Don't you trust me?!"

They fight, Faye storms out, cue regular sitcom bullshit until equilibrium sets back in after about 20 awkward strips about handling arguments and relationships better.

BAM! ... I feel dirty now.

SPOILER tags next time please,  you just ruined the next three months of comics.  Dr. Tad.    :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kaeawc on 07 May 2013, 07:56
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: gopher on 07 May 2013, 08:02
Even I, rubbish at relationships that I am, know to tell your partner about possible life changing decisions while you are thinking about them, well before you actually take them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 07 May 2013, 09:17
How long is the actual potential distance?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 07 May 2013, 09:23
Angus leaves for the audition in NY without telling Faye his intentions (he makes something up about work).

It wouldn't be made up, exactly. "Yeah, I have a job in NY" is pretty suitable both for Faye to hear and as the truth.

I may be the odd person here but I don't think Angus asking in bed was an odd thing. Around the end of the day is sort of when all my thoughts come together so I have the occasional deep thought to express.
I agree. We talk about almost everything right before bed. If it's something sad and dramatic like that, you are also in prime position for hugs (or sex, which is a way better way to feel better). Mind, we live together and are basically married, and as far as I know Angus is just spending the night, so it might feel a bit more intrusive, even if it's still a good time.
(Angus is living with Marigold still, right? If he wasn't I'm pretty sure it would be Hannergold and the apartment would never be dirty again, but that hasn't happened)

ETA- Looks like I was wrong and that's Angus' apartment (by the colour/decor), so it shouldn't have been that invasive, either.

Faye and Angus' relationship seems very solid to me. Yeah, they have spats but they both like the snarkiness of each other. They're not really fights about their relationship. In this case, the night before was cut short but Faye brought it up again and apologised and they calmly, if briefly, talked it out. I would say Angus will bring this up to her again and was hoping to do it the night before, before Faye's answer to his question.
I don't think we know enough to say that. It seems kind of flat to me, like they date, have sex, and love each other, but there's neither passion nor feeling of length to it. The foreshadowing comic linked above could switch careers with the relationship, and that would be how it looks to me ("meh, good enough"). The only times they even seem like more than friends to me are bed/makeout scenes, rather than during dramatic events or talking about things, especially since I'm pretty sure Marten and Dora are still much closer to her than Angus (which is not a bad thing, but means that there is a distance there).

I don't mean it's a bad relationship, just that it could go either way. Nitpicking found negativity, and even if that's a little silly, it means it's possible for it to end soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 07 May 2013, 09:51
I think it may just be a difference in what romantic relationships are personally to people but for me, a close friend I'm intimate is my relationship. Faye judges Angus as someone to trust despite how hard that is for her and that's a big element. Although it's true there's a lot we haven't seen of them as a couple.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 May 2013, 10:42
Pfff... Lubricus, watch and learn, ahem:

Angus leaves for the audition in NY without telling Faye his intentions (he makes something up about work).

While he is away, Faye finds the flyer / Angus' boss calls for an emergency gig.

Angus fails the audition and upon returning is faced with an aggravated Faye all going "Why didn't you tell me?! Don't you trust me?!"

They fight, Faye storms out, cue regular sitcom bullshit until equilibrium sets back in after about 20 awkward strips about handling arguments and relationships better.

BAM! ... I feel dirty now.

I am reasonably sure this is covered under Jeph's "I won't do Shakespearean misunderstandings". I think.

Now I fear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 07 May 2013, 10:51
How long is the actual potential distance?

Let me Google that for you... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=distance+from+northampton+MA+to+NYC)

@Westrim: saying he wants to move there and actually having an opportunity for something there are two different things... but I'm picking nits at this point. 

Despite my long term identification with Angus, this is a really hard call - Best thing is to tell Faye about the opportunity, and be open.  "Hey, that 5 year thing?  Well, the reason I asked was...".  Then send in the "resume" (which probably needs to include some video of your work), and see if you even get past the first round. 

If not, moot point. 

If you do, well... then you have some real thinking and talking to do. 


He will, of course, because one of his prep school pals is the talent coordinator for Worldwide Panties now. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: azurite on 07 May 2013, 11:33
Despite my long term identification with Angus, this is a really hard call - Best thing is to tell Faye about the opportunity, and be open.  "Hey, that 5 year thing?  Well, the reason I asked was...".  Then send in the "resume" (which probably needs to include some video of your work), and see if you even get past the first round. 

Unless what he's starting to think is that, whether he gets the flier gig or not, he'd rather be living in NYC. Which might be why the initial question to Faye was "where do you see yourself in five years," not "What would you think of moving to New York with me if I get a job out there?"

3 hours really isn't that bad a commute for a long distance thing. They could visit for weekends and, if "The Nightly Show" is anything like it's "our world" companion, during that every-fourth-week the crew gets off. BUT that kind of dynamic can only work for so long. Eventually, someone is going to have to move. If he's planning on permanently living in the city and she has no interest in living there herself, then it might be better to just recognize it for the incompatibility it is and move on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 07 May 2013, 11:35
He could always pull a Biden and use Amtrak back and forth every day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Latias on 07 May 2013, 12:03
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BUT that kind of dynamic can only work for so long.

Not necessarily true at all. There are people who have very long distance relationships for very long periods of time. Not everyone is capable of doing this, of course, but that dynamic CAN work, especially when given they're actually within easy driving distance. We don't know anything about how either of them feels about a long distance relationship, so it's a bit early to proclaim that a long distance relationship can't work out long term.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 07 May 2013, 12:32
Back at 2006 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2006) Faye's hair is too long to easily see her ears, the next time we see her in 2016 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2016), it's cut slightly differently, and we can see her ears, and still can since it's continued to be styled similarly. ...
Someone posted a link to 1199 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1199) in another thread, and Faye has the double piercing in her right ear there as well, clearly visible in the second panel, so it has been around for quite a while.
Apparently her left ear is double-pierced too. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1148)

Yes, everywhere I could see her left ear clealy, it also seems to have two piercings.

Has there ever been any discussions about any other piercings?  The only one I can recall was with Tai, Marten and Dora talking about Tai's new one.


... Interesting foreshadowing though - Jeph's usually a little less obvious.

Well, of course Jeph could be a lot more cunning than we're giving him credit for, and do something else entirely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Random832 on 07 May 2013, 12:38
He could always pull a Biden and use Amtrak back and forth every day.

That's a three and a half hour commute, and $42 a day. (source: amtrak.com, specified stations as SPG and NYP)

He might be better off driving every day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 May 2013, 12:57
Has there ever been any discussions about any other piercings?  The only one I can recall was with Tai, Marten and Dora talking about Tai's new one.

There was some surprise expressed about Hanners having piercings, although I cannot find the strip right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 07 May 2013, 13:11
Hanners has had piercings since the beginning... Something about piercing salons actually being very clean.

Angus doesn't actually have a job yet. He hasn't actually asked her to move to the city yet, it seems like he's throwing out typical mid-relationship half-serious half-playful trial balloon banter at this point but that's definitely a Checkhov's Flyer.

In comic time they've been together probably less then a year? Good time to talk about such things. Her answer doesn't even necessarily exclude the possibility of moving...eventually... But it'll take some character development before she's ready.


Plenty of places this could go.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 07 May 2013, 14:32
I'm sorry, but I can't get the image of Chekhov's flyer out of my head...


(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7370/8718971476_d8a2291261.jpg)



And now, neither can you! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TimO on 07 May 2013, 14:41
There was some surprise expressed about Hanners having piercings, although I cannot find the strip right now.

Hanners has had piercings since the beginning... Something about piercing salons actually being very clean.

Doh. <fx:smacks head>  Yes of course there was some discussion about her ear piercings, and when you see her ears, she has quite a lot!  She certainly easily beats Faye's two per ear. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 May 2013, 14:58
To be exact, Hanners has 10 ear piercings, five in each ear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 07 May 2013, 15:37
He could always pull a Biden and use Amtrak back and forth every day.
That's a three and a half hour commute, and $42 a day. (source: amtrak.com, specified stations as SPG and NYP)

He might be better off driving every day.
If he's earning Colbert Cash, or even Aasif Mandvi Cash, I don't think the cost would be a problem. He could just teleconference with the writers until he gets there.

How the heck would driving that distance be better?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 May 2013, 18:13
Yeah, gas, tolls and parking would almost certainly be more than $42 a day. Hell, parking alone in the city would come close.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tassaron on 07 May 2013, 18:23
Oh yay, I got my wish for some more Faye/Angus time granted. Can't wait to see where this leads.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: azurite on 07 May 2013, 19:14
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BUT that kind of dynamic can only work for so long.

Not necessarily true at all. There are people who have very long distance relationships for very long periods of time. Not everyone is capable of doing this, of course, but that dynamic CAN work, especially when given they're actually within easy driving distance. We don't know anything about how either of them feels about a long distance relationship, so it's a bit early to proclaim that a long distance relationship can't work out long term.

We did east coast/midwest long distance for five years, and man, if I had a nickel for every time we got the it-won't-work-I-could-never-live-like-that spiel, I'd have a lot of nickels. For some people, long distance is better. It was better for me when I was in my twenties... but, after a point, we had to decide if we were going to have a life together or not. So one of us had to move.

I think I missed the mark with my previous post, anyway - what Angus was actually asking was if Faye saw herself with HIM in five years, if he was in her long term plans. I know her reactions would have made me pretty uncomfortable about my prospects.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Torlek on 07 May 2013, 21:53
I think I missed the mark with my previous post, anyway - what Angus was actually asking was if Faye saw herself with HIM in five years, if he was in her long term plans. I know her reactions would have made me pretty uncomfortable about my prospects.
I believe it's been shown that Faye's abandonment issues have also led to some fairly massive commitment issues and a generic lack of planning when it comes to life. She obviously has no direction in life and one year in the future, never mind five, is probably not something that's on her radar. It looks fairly certain we're about to see a serious Faye-Angus fight, but I think the bigger foreshadowing is that Faye's about to go through some fairly massive character growth.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 08 May 2013, 00:33
Re: 5 year plans

I can't make them - not even 5 month plans. Life's too uncertain.
20 year plans - yes, those we have, full of contingency sub-plans. But they're not detailed.

When I was 10, I decided what i wanted to do with my life.
I wanted to travel the world.
I wanted to emigrate to Australia - thanks to a school project I did at age 6 on the place.
I wanted to work on a space program in the year 2000. Maybe offplanet - that didn't seem unlikely in 1968.
I wanted a husband, and children.
I wanted a PhD in Pure Maths and Astrophysics, like Zoe (the Dr Who companion).

I had to make certain concessions to reality when it came to implementation, though not major ones. The biggest was that I didn't have a female puberty, I had to pretend to be a boy. That actually made a lot of my career choices easier, though emotionally it was devastating. I ended up falling in love with another gal, so it had advantages there. She's straight.

I also found out I was Intersex, and was told the odds of me ever having children were remote. 100:1 against - though we now know that was wrong, more like 100,000,000 to 1 against. But... we had a child anyway. I wanted a large family, but for me, 1 is larger than could reasonably be expected.

At Uni, I kept up with the Pure Maths, but dropped Physics because I found Computer Science more interesting. And because there were (and are) a lot of Astrophysicists driving cabs, you had to be in the top few percent.

More through luck than effort, I got the rest. The family emigrated to Australia (I only got 2 weeks notice). I travelled the world as part of my job - from Zuerich to Seoul and Southampton, Bremen and Bangkok to Akron, Ohio and Hengelo, Overijssel. I played a major role in Australia's second space program - before, like the first one, it too was shut down after achieving spectacular success. Shut down in fact because it was so successful, like the first, accomplishing all objectives, but with no plans by a myopic government for any follow-up.

Now I better get back to my thesis if I'm going to get my doctorate. I have all the published papers, it's just a matter of writing it up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 08 May 2013, 00:43
^So, mission mostly accomplishedish!


Marten is once again the punching bag. Yay.

It's not even true. Sure, he's lost direction, but he pretty solidly noted his desire to be in a band and create music. That's more than Faye has expressed- she's got art, but every time it comes up she treats it like more like a hassle than an interest.

This strip bugs me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 May 2013, 00:56
My jimmies, too, are rustled.
(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 May 2013, 01:04
Marten's far from the only cast member with that problem!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 08 May 2013, 01:10
I agree with the rest of you.

What's actually the difference between Faye's attitude and Marten's? That's what I want to know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 08 May 2013, 01:26
Perhaps only that Faye is asking the question? Faye has at least created and sold one sculpture. Marten and his band, as far as we know, have not performed a single gig, distributed an EP, or anything.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 May 2013, 01:34
I concur with Westrim.

Akima here's a thought, band type stuff takes a lot of work, as far as we know, Marten works, and goes to practice regularly. He doesn't get compensated for practice, he does it because he loves it. People have tried to beat Faye with money for her to do her art thing and it took threats of physical violence from Dora to motivate her to do it. Something she theoretically loves.

Personal opinion? I'd say Marten has more direction then Faye. He knows what he loves, and he's pursuing it. The hard way maybe but he is pursuing it. Course no one in the case beats Dora for direction. Except for the serious "issues" she's got it together otherwise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Latias on 08 May 2013, 01:36
Perhaps only that Faye is asking the question? Faye has at least created and sold one sculpture. Marten and his band, as far as we know, have not performed a single gig, distributed an EP, or anything.

That does not mean he hasn't put any effort into it. Faye may have done it, but only because Dora pushed her into doing it. Marten is, at least, actively pursuing it out of his own interest.

I am not a fan of the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 08 May 2013, 01:54
I'd say Marten has more direction then Faye. He knows what he loves, and he's pursuing it.
Faye may have done it, but only because Dora pushed her into doing it. Marten is, at least, actively pursuing it out of his own interest.

 Well...Marten was kind of pushed/recieved an ultimatum before realizing that he wanna progress with his band:
 (http://i.imgur.com/6ibL8UH.jpg)

 Source: #1982
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: nestingkiwi on 08 May 2013, 01:59
...what's the difference?

No, CoD is a dictatorship with baristasants.

This reminds me of a joke.

The punchline is "The baristacrats".



So a guy and a girl walk into a coffee shop and there are a couple of 30 something females bickering amongst themselves about bikini lines. One of them is tall and thin with a teeshirt that proclaims 'mustache rides $1000' while the other is what an art historian would describe as being rubinesque and appears to be wearing an angry bear and horn rimmed glasses. They are trading verbal  blows  and slamming cups down with such force that coffe sprays up  spraying rich hot mist all over the bean-stained counter. Many curse words get thrown around as the argument escalates. Harpy exclaimes one. Battle axe the other replies and the tallest of the two then lets loose a spurt of untranslateable gibberish which fills the observing couple with unspeakable dread. Glaring at the other the rubinesque woman reaches beneath the coffee stained  counter and removes a heavy ladle which she wields above her head. "I'll take no more  of your sass you skelatal gloom hag!" she yells. The taller woman too reaches down lifting a giant knotched claymore above her head. "Consider this your final notice you bourbon soaked wretch." She screams.

The girl who has just walked in turns to her male companion and asks What on earth is wrong with these people?"   

The guy shrugs and says "Meh. it's like this every day."

"Thats what you expect when you buy coffee from the baristacrats.'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 May 2013, 02:14
I'd say Marten has more direction then Faye. He knows what he loves, and he's pursuing it.
Faye may have done it, but only because Dora pushed her into doing it. Marten is, at least, actively pursuing it out of his own interest.

 Well...Marten was kind of pushed/recieved an ultimatum before realizing that he wanna progress with his band:
 (http://i.imgur.com/6ibL8UH.jpg)

 Source: #1982

Fair point, but he is at least going somewhere with it. What's Faye done with art stuff recently?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 08 May 2013, 02:25
Is art stuff even what Faye actually wants to do? Has she ever said as much?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 May 2013, 02:28
Also: made more money with one article than marten's entire music "career" has?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 08 May 2013, 02:47
Maybe they'll both feel the urge to stop drifting. I think that's coming.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 08 May 2013, 03:35
As much as I hate to admit it, I made an account just for this strip.

I was gonna type out a big rant about how much the fourth panel bothered me, but it sounded too whiny so I quit it.

It's just that I'm having a hard time seeing where these two ladies came off making a remark like that, especially after all Marten has done for them (especially Faye - not a smart move to talk about somebody like that after they went to hell and back for you, but I suppose this is how the adult world works after all).

I'm sure there's some reasoning behind the recent dialogue, but I can't get over the fact that it irked me.  And after just recently reading through every single QC strip again, I have to say this is the first time I've been irked this much.

Oh well, we'll see what happens.  Let life carry on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Moanerette on 08 May 2013, 04:00
Also: made more money with one article than marten's entire music "career" has?

Making money does not have to be the point of creative pursuits.

I'm somewhat puzzled by the idea that Angus has an 'opportunity'. As far as I can tell, he simply has a flyer for open auditions for a TV show. Hundreds of hopefuls would probably turn up for that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 08 May 2013, 04:18
It's not really about whether he has a chance in hell at the audition. It's what the flyer says about where he really wants to be in five years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 May 2013, 04:20

So a guy and a girl walk into a coffee shop [snip]

Beautiful.

Welcome, new people!

Plus Marten has been IN SPACE!!! Whereas Faye has... made a sculpture. Woo.

Well, to be fair, it's not like that happened because of Marten's efforts. He just happened to be friends with the daughter of a mad scientist, who befriended him by stalking him (the daughter, not the scientist).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 08 May 2013, 04:39
I know a man whose life trajectory was like Marten's continued indefinitely. He dropped out of teacher training and spent the next 35 years playing music, occasionally getting a band together which folded after a few gigs, doing odd jobs, smoking weed and living on welfare.  It went fine until his late 50s, then he quarrelled with all his friends and became a recluse. I haven't seen him for five years. 

You have to grow up sometime.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Delator on 08 May 2013, 04:54
Has Dora ever expressed any sort of goals that weren't related to her business or resolving her emotional issues?

Seems to me you should have goals before ripping on your ex about theirs.

Faye speaks a kernel of truth, but really needs to realize that she's lagging behind Marten in this so-called race.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 08 May 2013, 04:59
People are arguing over which of Faye and Marten has more direction, but really the point is that there is not much to separate them, and Faye is acting as though that is not the case.

I can easily imagine Marten making the speech that Faye made in panel 3.

So it gets back to the very first question Faye asked: is contentment the same as complacency? Some would argue yes - that simply being happy with where you are is in fact regression.

Having said all that, just one more comment with regards to Marten's band... yes, he spends some amount of time playing, but he doesn't seem to have any goals with regards to that. If he does, he's certainly not working towards them. He just kind of does it, really.

And yes, Dora does have goals, and they are mainly related to her business. Well, running your own business can be pretty all-consuming. I don't see the problem with that. Well, I can see potential problems, but they are a totally different set of problems, not 'Dora is just drifting' problems.

Anyway, it wasn't actually the last panel that bugged me, really. I can easily imagine Dora and Faye convincing each other that Marten is so different from Faye. It was Jeph's editorial 'Oh Marten' comment that annoyed me. He's being kicked and he's not even there. Bleh. Or as Jeph would say, kdkfjdfds.

Edit: 750. Wheeeeeeeeee.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 08 May 2013, 05:13
Folks, these two are Marten's best friends - and likely the two persons who know him best. Surely they appreciate Marten's friendship and all that. It may appear that they speak like this behind Marten's back, but they would not hesitate to say essentially the same thing in his presence. As Marten's friends they have the right, duty even, to try and give the poor drifter a nudge.

Dora has a career. It may look petty to some, but it keeps her focused. Faye apparently has talent, but is uncertain pursue it. May be she would rather teach sculpting (Sam) than do it herself? For that to happen she needs a college degree, which is tough to do, given that she would probably have to pay for it herself. I don't know whether she will pursue sculpting as a more than a hobby. I don't know whether she should? She might continue trying this low volume thing with the local gallery owner, but probably would need somebody else to notice her work to really spread her wings.

5-year plans? I used to have them. But after finishing up my doctorate I sorta started drifting. Other things took over: family, hobbies. I did earn a couple promotions, but have I really done something I'm proud of in recent years? Career stalled more or less. Warning to young  guns: this is how GOMs are made (by failing to make those 5-year plans).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Latias on 08 May 2013, 05:25
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You have to grow up sometime.

This comment bothered me, a lot. This is a terribly judgmental view of you to take on a lifestyle that's not yours. I live my day to day life with no long-term goals and as a recluse, and I have for the past six years, happily. What, about goals, is "grown-up"? Who are you to say what the purpose of one's life is? My objective in life is simply to be happy. To me, the point of my life is nothing more than to be happy on a day-to-day basis. How does that make me any less mature, or "grown-up", than someone who chooses to aim for goals? Or Marten? Or that guy you knew?

I didn't realise it until re-reading the comic, but that bothers me about the comic, too. Originally I was just bothered by the hypocrisy of them criticising Marten for "drifting" when Faye is, at least arguably, "drifting" even more than he is. Dora's statement that it's "important to have goals and strive to achieve them", as if it's a hard fact. I don't agree with that at all. It's absolutely a worthy thing to pursue, if that's what floats your boat. But there also isn't anything wrong with taking life easy and just enjoying the present it for what its worth, if that's what floats your boat. To say one or the other is more important than the other is closed-minded. That's a decision that each person makes for themselves.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CleoKat on 08 May 2013, 05:33
Has Dora ever expressed any sort of goals that weren't related to her business or resolving her emotional issues?

Seems to me you should have goals before ripping on your ex about theirs.

Having career and personal growth goals are pretty damn good goals to have! What other goals do you expect her to have?

Dora owns her own thriving business and she's continuing to improve it too by making that deal with Jim for the baked goods and making general investments in machinery and stuff (I can't remember the fancy coffee machine, I'm a tea drinker). That's pretty damn impressive at her age and I certainly couldn't do that.

Also, her choice to go into therapy and deal with the issues preventing her from being self-destructive in relationships and her relationship with her brother is more than I'd expect from any non-fictional person, certainly not the Dora I knew. It was a massive character leap and one I was thrilled to read. Now she's in a relationship with Tai and it seems to be going well (early days). That's a huge goal that could improve so many aspects of her life.

Hell, she's responsible for a cat too! Take that life goals, she's got responsibilities too.

If there's one person in the comic who can give someone a talking to on life goals, it's Dora.


As for the whole 'Don't be like Marten' thing I would say that Faye is worse but she's still recovering from a massive trauma so I'm giving her a little slack. Holding down a stable job, relationship and maintaining a wide group of friends probably seemed impossible after her breakdown so she's already come along way. Still, she's got so much potential and verve, she should be grabbing life by the horns and doing what she loves, not coasting at the coffee shop. I think the way Angus brought up the five-year-plan thing was very real, especially as most of my big life conversations have taken place in bed, and I can understand why he disfused the talk with humour after not getting the answer he was hoping for, he needed to recalculate.

I hope tomorrow's strip (or an upcoming strip) features Faye and Marten. I kinda want to see how he'd react to a joke about him being directionless (one of my predictions for the year is that he'd get a proper gig so I'm sorta hoping for that) and that maybe they'd both realise that they've got to do stuff while they're young, even if they work that out during a spat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 08 May 2013, 06:03
I'm having a hard time seeing where these two ladies came off making a remark like that, especially after all Marten has done for them

This hypocrisy may be explained by the fact that both these ladies have rejected Marten in the past, for different reasons. Putting him down like that is a bit of ego protection: pretending to justify that choice, and incidentally masking the truth that in both cases it was their own inadequacy that limited or ended their relationship with Marten, not Marten's lack of direction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 May 2013, 06:03
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one really bothered by the last panel. It really is unfair of Dora. Yes, Marten may be sliding through life, but it's not like he doesn't have goals or interests. Faye on the other hand up until now has been pretty much aggressively fighting to not change her place in life. Angus and Dora have been the ones to apply various amounts of pressure to get her to make any changes in her life, so throwing the same attitude back on Marten is pretty unfair.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 08 May 2013, 06:27
I wonder how motivated Marten would be if he had a girl friend. I'm wondering the same about myself, to be honest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 May 2013, 06:55
[...]
The guy shrugs and says "Meh. it's like this every day."

"Thats what you expect when you buy coffee from the baristacrats.'

Brilliant!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 May 2013, 06:59
If yesterday's last panel flyer was a Chekhov's Flyer then today's last-panel insult is a Chekhov's insult ... I think Jeph's setting something up for Faye, and Marten too
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 08 May 2013, 07:04
 Strip should have just ended with Dora's line. She's successful and can make that punchline. I could rant why Faye can't, but plenty of people have already.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 08 May 2013, 07:30
(looks at watch)
(looks at page number)

"There's still time for us to hit 10 pages by Thursday night..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 08 May 2013, 07:31
Emily's days of punning...

...are over for good.    5 (7.1%)
...until someone explains that Hannelore doesn't do puns.    13 (18.6%)
...has an obsession with peas.    0 (0%)
...and Q's.    3 (4.3%)
...has tried so hard to be the "good" child in her family.    2 (2.9%)
...are not over! No puns, no peas!    14 (20%)
...Oh, no, not again.    11 (15.7%)
...Waffles? (Wait, that's not a pun.)    6 (8.6%)
...needs to be given a second chance at peas.    16 (22.9%)

Total Members Voted: 70
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 May 2013, 07:35
Didn't we all wake up one morning 40 years old and wonder how that happened?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kyraeus on 08 May 2013, 08:03
Beyond all the above, which seem pretty good, the thing that struck me almost immediately upon reading today's, was that it's extremely ironic and kinda downright pissy of the two of them to be sniping about Marten's lack of direction.  I mean, let's look back a bit.

Faye initially completely treats him more or less like crap after he opens all of what little he has to her, then lets her own past and emotional issues completely dump over any advances he might have tried to make, and then more or less sidesteps any relationship with him by saying 'oh, sorry, I have issues. It wouldn't be fair.  Move along, please.'.  While on one hand that's introspective, you gotta figure that'll screw a guy's ego over a bit and make him not exactly in a hurry to push for better.

Then what happens next?  Dora pretty much hops on him as free, then almost immediately ends up dumping him, ALSO due to her own issues and mental fears.  Is it two for one sale this year on massive female problems?  That of course, is WITHOUT adding in the fact that now suddenly Faye's just FINE enough to go off and have someone to be with now.

I mean, at least now he's not all blah about not getting any, but let's face it, after the duo of emotional issues like that, who would WANT to go out and find anyone new or to push for better?  In his position, I'd be thinking 'Why bother? Every time I try for something better than this, I get crapped on by the universe and roll not just a one, but a SERIES of ones.  Screw that. I'll be here, playing my guitar and chilling out where it's relatively safe'. 

I'm not saying it's completely their fault.  Everyone has had shitty times in their life like that sometimes.  But it seems just a liiiiiittle bit wrong of them to be sitting around griping about his lack of direction, when they kinda both contributed to said lack of direction by screwing him over each in their own way.  Whether he's okay with that is kinda not even really in question there, as he basically for the most part seems to have a bit of serious California zen going on.  'The Dude abides, man'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 08 May 2013, 08:24
(looks at watch)
(looks at page number)

"There's still time for us to hit 10 pages by Thursday night..."

Why worry about things like that?  There's plenty of other things to concern yourself with, such as

a.  How threadbare is the "TEH" tshirt by now;
b.  Are we going to get a real shift in the life of one of the characters in the next few weeks;
c.  Can the posters in this forum stop overanalyzing the strip;
d.  Will I have enough time to get a decent dinner before I have to report for duty this evening;
e.  Is there enough space ham; and
f.  Who's shipping who?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 08 May 2013, 08:27
Obviously, when they're not performing for the comic, the characters ship various members of the forum. Some of the pairings they come up with are horrific.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 08 May 2013, 08:58
Beyond all the above, which seem pretty good, the thing that struck me almost immediately upon reading today's, was that it's extremely ironic and kinda downright pissy of the two of them to be sniping about Marten's lack of direction.  I mean, let's look back a bit.

Faye initially completely treats him more or less like crap after he opens all of what little he has to her, then lets her own past and emotional issues completely dump over any advances he might have tried to make, and then more or less sidesteps any relationship with him by saying 'oh, sorry, I have issues. It wouldn't be fair.  Move along, please.'.  While on one hand that's introspective, you gotta figure that'll screw a guy's ego over a bit and make him not exactly in a hurry to push for better.

Then what happens next?  Dora pretty much hops on him as free, then almost immediately ends up dumping him, ALSO due to her own issues and mental fears.  Is it two for one sale this year on massive female problems?  That of course, is WITHOUT adding in the fact that now suddenly Faye's just FINE enough to go off and have someone to be with now.

I mean, at least now he's not all blah about not getting any, but let's face it, after the duo of emotional issues like that, who would WANT to go out and find anyone new or to push for better?  In his position, I'd be thinking 'Why bother? Every time I try for something better than this, I get crapped on by the universe and roll not just a one, but a SERIES of ones.  Screw that. I'll be here, playing my guitar and chilling out where it's relatively safe'. 

I'm not saying it's completely their fault.  Everyone has had shitty times in their life like that sometimes.  But it seems just a liiiiiittle bit wrong of them to be sitting around griping about his lack of direction, when they kinda both contributed to said lack of direction by screwing him over each in their own way.  Whether he's okay with that is kinda not even really in question there, as he basically for the most part seems to have a bit of serious California zen going on.  'The Dude abides, man'.

Gotta agree here....After the way Marten has been treated by these two on many occasion, I don't see where they have room to talk exactly.  Love the characters, but Marten does not need to be brought up.  If you wanna push him and try and get him to do a gig, talk to him about it.  Don't deride Marten to make Faye feel better, who is ever more stalled than Marten considering Faye is in a relationship and is stalling Angus' dream (however unintentionally she's doing it).

I'm biased.  Ever since Dora's breakup with Marten, I just haven't liked her as much.  (Her hitching with Tai is another matter entirely I exhausted long ago when it started).

I will say, it isn't exactly like Marten dwelled on those 2 stringing him along (or in Dora's case, being a control freak who sabotaged everything).  He's moved on.  And that's at least a sense of direction.  He wanted to explore things with Padma, but the universe fudged him over.  He's been fudged over a lot. 

Anyway, I don't even think Dora/Faye are the ones that are going to motivate him.  Marten just needs one good thing to happen to him (which there hasn't been a lot of) to get him moving. 

Bah.  I'm just ranting now.  Folks have already said it better.  Basically Faye is stalling herself with no direction and stalling Angus' dream as well (unintentionally, but even soo...) and Dora really just has no room to talk. 

I mean damn.  Dora was in stalled limbo as well and unless someone forced her into counseling, she'd still be off sabotaging romantic relationships.  Bah.  Just didn't like that last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 08 May 2013, 09:28
I wonder how motivated Marten would be if he had a girl friend. I'm wondering the same about myself, to be honest.

I think, knowing his character, a serious girlfriend/LTR might motivate him, but to us viewers it would look like the opposite, since that first little while would be more 'whoo girlfriend' than 'let's make my/our future look good' and a little while in comic is a long time to us.

On the other hand, a more casual relationship would probably have no effect, and it turning into something more serious over time might ground him.

On the other other hand, Padma and Dora both went bad for him, and it would probably be best he waits a while before seeing someone again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 08 May 2013, 10:13
Obviously, when they're not performing for the comic, the characters ship various members of the forum. Some of the pairings they come up with are horrific.

I've seen the ones I was shipped with... 

It took a lot to get those images out of my mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mojo on 08 May 2013, 10:17
God, this one depressed me, because it describes my life exactly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 May 2013, 10:23
I kinda like the description of Marten's life style as a California zen "The Dude abides" sorta thing. Strikes me as pretty spot on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 08 May 2013, 10:38
But would it be in Angus' character to just up and go like that? He loves Faye, and knows her history with her father, and as such would have an inkling of what could likely happen if he did leave her behind (which could probably be more dramatic than mere drama).

But that being said, Faye will definitely feel like a bitch for not letting Angus pursue his dreams. But can she then just up and leave her social circle that she had a hard enough time to build (admittedly it is only about 3 hours away (Google Maps is my friend...)), and build a new life in New York?

How the hell do you compromise in that situation?

In some cases, I don't think you can compromise.  Love is great and all.  But giving up your dream when you still have no real attachments (kids, etc) is character destruction.  You're begging out on your development, desires, and happiness...I'd be very disappointing if Angus just gave up his dream.  Not healthy.  So, not sure if there's a compromise.  One person has a family she feels comfortable with and may not want to part from.  The other wants to follow a dream....I hate seeing people kill off their dreams just to stay with someone.  So I'd rather Angus pursue his dream.

And I hope he still goes to that comedy interview gig thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: onefish on 08 May 2013, 10:42
Man, I *knew* everyone would be mad at either Jeph or Faye/Dora about this one.

But look. Faye might actually be reasonably content where she is. Marten genuinely IS aimless and kind of vaguely wants to "do more," probably musically, but hasn't really done it (though I had thought he was sorta taking steps). Faye and Dora are poking fun with love, and have talked with Marten about this--they're not sniping at him or putting him down.

Also, I know the QC timeline is not *perfectly* clear, but there is no way Dora and Marten broke up "almost immediately."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 May 2013, 10:54
Also, I know the QC timeline is not *perfectly* clear, but there is no way Dora and Marten broke up "almost immediately."

I don't usually post "seconded", but I agree. They spent quite a long time together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 May 2013, 10:56
Do we even know that the band is still practicing? Marten's talent deserves better than to die of neglect.

Yes, the Pugnacious Peach wants to be a sculptor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 May 2013, 10:57
By the way:

Didn't we all wake up one morning 40 years old and wonder how that happened?

Most of us haven't, but I know that feeling. I often have the thought digging at me that I have wasted a third or a fourth of my life, depending on which life expectancy you look at.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 May 2013, 11:02
Do we even know that the band is still practicing? Marten's talent deserves better than to die of neglect.

Do we know that Marten has talent? He likes playing, and he plays well enough for a hobby band, but does he have the potential to become a pro? I remember no indication one way or the other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2013, 11:04
Talent's only a small part of becoming a pro.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 May 2013, 11:15
Hanners has 10 ear piercings, five in each ear.

To be precise, Hanners has 5 piercings, ten in each ear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 08 May 2013, 11:17
Do we even know that the band is still practicing? Marten's talent deserves better than to die of neglect.

Yes, the Pugnacious Peach wants to be a sculptor.

This is the problem in-comic.  We don't necessarily have a full grasp of the characters lives.  It isn't as though Jeph is showing us the characters as if we're spying on them 24/7.  Who knows if he still practices with the band.  He very well could be.

And I don't agree that Dora and Faye were just poking fun.  Maybe I'm just ultra-sensitive about folks talking about their friends, but it seemed more of a "at least you're not Marten" line from Dora in order to make Faye feel better about being "content".

Hell, in some ways Faye right now is worse off than Marten.  She's "contentment" and wants to stay put (which I do completely understand btw.  I brought it up first) and her contentment seems to be holding Angus back (again, indirectly and unknowingly).

I don't really understand the difference between Faye's contentedness and Marten's.  They've each dabbled equally in things they like.  Sculpting and music, but neither has really actively pursued making something of it.  So I don't get how either of them is necessarily better off than the other, hence the stupidity of Dora's comment.  Hell, if Faye didn't have Angus, she'd be just as "aimless" as Marten.  I really don't see the difference.  We don't even KNOW what Faye's dreams are really.  At least we know Marten would like to play music, maybe professionally, with a band.

Also don't get why we have to love everything he writes.  He'd probably think it creepy if we agreed with him on everything.   If anyone ever agreed with everything I thought, I think it'd be creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 May 2013, 11:37
The filler a few days ago was the band, practising. I don't know when that was supposed to be, but...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 08 May 2013, 12:13
... but Marten was playing the eight-string, so if it is not alternate history, it's either recent or future ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 May 2013, 14:06
We can at least acquit them of being snide behind Marten's back since both have confronted him face to face about his aimlessness. The Pugnacious Peach has told him he's "wasting" his life.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: crazdgamer on 08 May 2013, 14:42
I mean, at least now he's not all blah about not getting any, but let's face it, after the duo of emotional issues like that, who would WANT to go out and find anyone new or to push for better?  In his position, I'd be thinking 'Why bother? Every time I try for something better than this, I get crapped on by the universe and roll not just a one, but a SERIES of ones.  Screw that. I'll be here, playing my guitar and chilling out where it's relatively safe'. 
Hello, new person!

I'd like to point out that Padma was a thing, and that had it not been for external factors pulling Padma away from life in Northampton their relationship could have developed further than it did before getting quickly cut off.   

Marteen absolutely took that chance I think.  Unfortunately it didn't work through no fault of his own. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 08 May 2013, 15:03
I'd like to point out that Padma was a thing, and that had it not been for external factors pulling Padma away from life in Northampton their relationship could have developed further than it did before getting quickly cut off.   
Marten absolutely took that chance I think.  Unfortunately it didn't work through no fault of his own.
Well, he did screw up when he blew her off that last time, though not as much as Faye said he did. It was a reasonable reaction to the blowoff by Padme, but it also had suboptimal results as far as his desires go.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 08 May 2013, 15:08
This is not Star Wars, it's Padma.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 May 2013, 15:17
No, this is Patrick.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 May 2013, 15:23
THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAAAA!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 08 May 2013, 15:54
This isn't a pineapple under the sea, it's a coffee shop under an iron fist.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 08 May 2013, 18:04
And the difference is?


Nothing like a bit of exposition to move a plot along.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 May 2013, 18:26
Since this comic was actually mostly about Faye I think it's useful to go a little deeper there. Her life as she has reconstructed it in Northhampton is way better than it was before in Savannah (dad dying, etc.) so having a stable life that she likes is a pretty major accomplishment for her. She wanted to make her life better and she did it and she has seen little but stagnation from Marten.

What she doesn't see, however, is whatever's going on in the rehearsal space with the 8-string, Whatever went on at his dad's wedding with Claire, the leadership he showed at work... So she might not be privy to the underlying changes that we all see as progress.

Were they being catty? Sure, a little, not much more than his mom was being when she visited. That's all why I think something big-ish is coming up.

Edit: Spelling was hard on small device in a h urry
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Throg on 08 May 2013, 18:31
Yeah, I do agree with FunkyTuba about Faye's "progress" being all about reconstructing her psyche and life. If she was having blackout suicidal attempts, and moved onto having tenuous (sex-driven) relationships, and moved onto a more stable relationship, then she's definitely had her journey.

But yeah, Marten is still directionless. It is NOT ENOUGH to be the nice, empowering-to-your-friends, generally good guy that doesn't lift a finger about moving on himself. What is cool at his age (late 20's?) is going to be, existentially, fucking ridiculous in his mid-40's. Wearing ironic t-shirts and the guy behind the desk at the college library? really?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 08 May 2013, 18:40
I don't really understand the difference between Faye's contentedness and Marten's. 

One major difference is that Marten is NOT content. He has hinted many times and even stated straight out a few times dissatisfaction with where his life is. He has talked about what he would like to do with his life (something involving music) but doesn't do anything to achieve that, not does he seem to have anything particular in mind beyond.

But the point of the conversation in the comic seems to be that Faye's complacency is NOT okay, or at least not ideal. Dora isn't saying that what Faye is doing is good, nor is she saying that what Marten is doing is worse, just that it doesn't work either so don't imitate it. If Faye has any level of self-awareness, which we know she does, she'll know she is in the same boat and will end up exactly the way she said Marten would. Pointing out that someone else's methodologies are flawed does not imply that yours are not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2013, 18:42
@Throg - That's a rather big assumption that just because he's been doing this the past couple years means he'll be doing it in 15.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 08 May 2013, 18:43
Obviously, when they're not performing for the comic, the characters ship various members of the forum. Some of the pairings they come up with are horrific.

I agree. I mean, me and ChaoSera? REALLY?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2013, 18:47
I wonder who I got paired with.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 May 2013, 18:50
@Throg what's wrong with being a librarian? A lot of people really like that career.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2013, 19:01
Well he's not a librarian.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 08 May 2013, 19:04
@Throg what's wrong with being a librarian? A lot of people really like that career.

He's not a librarian though, he's just a library employee. I don't think even Tai's a librarian. He probably gets a bit above minimum wage for stocking shelves and showing people around (that's what it's like for public library pages, at least).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Latias on 08 May 2013, 19:05
Regarding Marten not being content, is that still the case? I know it was something that was expressed a lot in earlier strips, but has it been a sentiment he's expressed recently? I can't seem to recall him saying anything of the sort in a long time, but my memory isn't the greatest.

But yeah, Marten is still directionless. It is NOT ENOUGH to be the nice, empowering-to-your-friends, generally good guy that doesn't lift a finger about moving on himself. What is cool at his age (late 20's?) is going to be, existentially, fucking ridiculous in his mid-40's. Wearing ironic t-shirts and the guy behind the desk at the college library? really?

Marten's life is more than t-shirts and being a library clerk. It's also quite a jump to assume he'll be doing that in his 40s, but if he is, who are you to judge him? If he's happy with his life, what gives you the right to say that's ridiculous and that he should spend his life someway else? Just because that might not be your type of lifestyle does not make it ridiculous. It really doesn't. You don't decide what is "enough" for someone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 08 May 2013, 19:31
Ok, so this is going way overboard, but I looked at the real Smith College library staff page, and there are definitely positions Marten could apply for with a 4 year degree in Music and circ desk experience (and a secret Naked Trustee bonus to all job application rolls).
http://www.smith.edu/libraries/info/staff/az

So he COULD try for a future at the library and maybe even make it work, he'd just have to do the bare minimum, which is fill out an application and BCC the trustees.
That's basically how I got my decent IT career started (minus blackmail), I worked as a student in a work study job, learned stuff working and applied for a staff position, and so on.  I'm not passionate about it but I do love the place and the people I work with, so it's fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: westrim on 08 May 2013, 19:36
Being a librarian requires a masters degree, (the lowest paid masters degree profession). Tai and Marten are just employees, not librarians, who are spoken of as slightly mythical creatures and rarely if ever appear in the strip (I believe those were board members that Marten caught boning).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2013, 19:37
(minus blackmail)
Quote from: Bender Bending Rodriguez
Blackmail is such an ugly word! I prefer "extortion"...the "x" makes it sound cool.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 May 2013, 19:39
Another possibility is Marten could use his degree to lecture. Spend enough time working for the college, make the right connections and if you know your shit (Marten does in fact know his shit about music as we've previously observed) and you can weasel into a lecturer position with a BA. Which sounds a lot like Marten's ideal actually. He wants to hang out and talk about music.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 08 May 2013, 19:53
Not every permanent, non student position in a university library is filled by a "Librarian".  There's a lot of lower level support staff that would only need a bachelors or maybe even a high school diploma for some of the billing/clerk positions.  Those are definitely in Marten's reach if he actually applied.  But yeah, that's as high as he gets in the Library org chart without years of experience and/or getting tuition remittance to get a library science degree part time.  I know people who have made it work but Marten's probably not one of those people.

And it's not like Jeph would ever have Marten do this because its really boring and out of character (or developing his character in a boring way). 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 08 May 2013, 20:02
Unfortunately, hanging out and talking about a topic isn't what being a lecturer is all about. 

There are these things called students that you're accountable for - grades, course content, syllabi... it's actually a fair amount of work, despite the pittance you're paid for it (he's probably better off at the library...)

~~~~~

My baby brother, who just turned 41, is a musician (bass player).  He's had a few different bands, they get gigs, one actually put out an album before they disbanded (and some Irish group took their name, so I can't find anything online about them anymore).  He works at Trader Joe's as a "day job" for the insurance, and helps a cabinetmaker through the winter when the gigs are few and far between, but he lives for the music.  He's currently in a jazz trio and a reformed group from the one that put out the album.  Occasionally he gets out the string bass and plays with a chamber orchestra. 

Will he ever hit the big time?  Hell no.  Does he make a living off his music?  Nope, again.  Does he have goals? 


Well, hard to tell. 


Is he happy?  He gets to play his music, and his life's pretty stable.  He has friends and lovers.  Yeah, he's happy.  Marten could do far worse. 


Edit:  After some concerted searching, I find that their CD is available through Amazon for 29.99. 

Better hurry, only one left...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7333/8722570854_09f625f861_m.jpg)

Yeah, edited out the name.  Privacy and all that... the cat's either Morrie or Artie, one of my parent's twin cats.  They got named by tormenting the dog, Sherlock...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Xthform on 08 May 2013, 22:21
I personally think this comic is far to harsh on a guy who is far better off then the two people ragging on him. Faye is more or less in the same position Marten is in but way less mentally sound, Dora while better off then Marten from a professional level is leagues behind him in both emotional and mental health. Faye nor Dora has any right to rag on Marten for what hes decided to do with his life. He is far more emotionally and mentally sound then both of them put together and he has a job that hes content with and pays the bills.
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 May 2013, 00:07
This isn't a pineapple under the sea, it's a coffee shop under an iron fist.

And the difference is?


Nothing like a bit of exposition to move a plot along.

Hello there, glad to meet you!
Welcome to the worlds of Bikini Bottom and Questionable Content. My name is Loki. People affectionately refer to me as "that weird guy with a degree in comics and cartoons".
Those worlds are inhabited far and wide by creatures we call "characters".
For some people, characters are a source of entertainment.
Others use them for projecting everything they feel onto them and over-analyzing their behavior.
As for myself... I used to waste time consuming both.
You may wonder about the differences between the two worlds.
In one, creatures do pointless things and occasionally have some drama. In the other.... well, wait. There is no difference.

Now tell me. Are you a boy? Or a girl?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 09 May 2013, 00:09
So at least one character has a five year plan. Good to see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 May 2013, 00:11
NO! That means that we will see it executed in 25 real-life years, at its earliest!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 09 May 2013, 00:15

a.  How threadbare is the "TEH" tshirt by now;
b.  Are we going to get a real shift in the life of one of the characters in the next few weeks;
c.  Can the posters in this forum stop overanalyzing the strip;
d.  Will I have enough time to get a decent dinner before I have to report for duty this evening;
e.  Is there enough space ham; and
f.  Who's shipping who?

a. Not at all
b. Yes, unless we don't
c. In principle yes, but they never will
d. No
e. Impossible
f. Somebody is shipping everybody
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Truec on 09 May 2013, 00:40
Hannelore had best get on the ball if she wants to get from coffee shop employee to supervillain with a virus in five years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 May 2013, 00:46
Faye nor Dora has any right to rag on Marten for what hes decided to do with his life.

They have a point, in that he's not acting on a conscious decision. He's still got all the problems he mentioned in comics 3 and 11. He's drifting, not deciding.

EDIT: Maybe Hannermom will want someone to take over the family business in the next five years? Or at least let her only child get a toe in the water by starting out as a junior executive? She said she's been feeling less fulfillment in her villainy, so maybe she'll want to spend more time with her new pool boy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Latias on 09 May 2013, 01:05
They have a point, in that he's not acting on a conscious decision. He's still got all the problems he mentioned in comics 3 and 11. He's drifting, not deciding.

"All the problems"? He only really mentioned one in those comics - his discontent with his job. That he no longer has. He quit that job and is doing something he seems to be a lot more content with.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 May 2013, 01:11
It's still fetch and carry work. Tai had to drop a piano on him to get him to progress professionally.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 May 2013, 01:13
Dropping a piano on people never hurt anyone, as evidenced by Looney Toons.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 May 2013, 01:15
He told the Bianchi parents that what he really wants is to do music full time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 09 May 2013, 01:22
Dropping a piano on people never hurt anyone, as evidenced by Looney Toons.

You don't think being squashed up like an accordion hurts? Sure, it's only temporary, but a severe temporary pain is still a severe pain. And, as I believe Daffy Duck once pointed out, "pain hurts."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 09 May 2013, 01:54
what gives you the right to say that's ridiculous and that he should spend his life someway else?

I know I shouldn't introduce politics (bad Paul!), but last night on the radio I heard a government spokesman talking about ways to limit immigration, and saying that they only wanted immigrants who would do good jobs, and not those who would take low-paid jobs.  I heard this as meaning "we need to keep the low-paid jobs available for our own people who haven't the ambition to do anything else".

Not every permanent, non student position in a university library is filled by a "Librarian".

My wife is second in charge of a university library, without having any previous connections or experience as a librarian!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 May 2013, 01:57
The library job is also something he got quasi-accidentally rather than to suit his needs and decisions.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 09 May 2013, 02:01
Dropping a piano on people never hurt anyone, as evidenced by Looney Toons.

What key do you get if you drop a piano down a mineshaft?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 May 2013, 02:02
The library job is also something he got quasi-accidentally rather than to suit his needs and decisions.
Well, he had qualifications (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691).

@Paul:

(_)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 09 May 2013, 02:06
New strip up.

(http://spacewars.smfforfree.com/Smileys/users/spacewars/rotflz.gif) Oh Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 May 2013, 02:16
I am absolutely in love with the floor.

I want to marry it and have sweet adamantine children.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 09 May 2013, 03:37
Hanners looks disturbingly convincing as a Bond-villain mother's daughter (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DaddysLittleVillain). But the final panel suggests not so much a five-year-plan, so much as... a vision of the future? Is she a precog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precognition)? Or is it her mother's five year plan for her to take over as head of Evilco?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 09 May 2013, 04:39
I think Hanners  has a supervillain somewhere in a part of her brain that she's no allowed access to right now.   When the time is right it''ll show itself.   Like Zaphod  stealing the Heart of Gold or that guy in Total Recall. 

Is Hannermom capable of pulling that off?  I think so.  Would Station find a way to foil her plans?  Possibly...  Or possibly he'd let all the humans die because he's jealous of her new life?

Nah, I think Station is a good guy.   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Moanerette on 09 May 2013, 04:58
What a terrific comic. Beautifully set up by the serious strips prior. Kudos to Jeph for this one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 May 2013, 05:00
I thought the comic was leading up to a reintro of Beatrice. And for a brief instant, I thought it was her, there in the third tier. Now I am going to entertain the thought, until the comic proves otherwise, that the bald minion is a brain-altered Marten, kind of like what happened to Uncle Duke for a while in "Doonesbury."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 09 May 2013, 05:07
Hanners looks disturbingly convincing as a Bond-villain mother's daughter (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DaddysLittleVillain). But the final panel suggests not so much a five-year-plan, so much as... a vision of the future? Is she a precog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precognition)?
Yes. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2036)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 09 May 2013, 05:12
Now I am going to entertain the thought, until the comic proves otherwise, that the bald minion is a brain-altered Marten,

At first I thought it was Mr. Clean (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1141).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 09 May 2013, 05:30
Now I am going to entertain the thought, until the comic proves otherwise, that the bald minion is a brain-altered Marten,

At first I thought it was Mr. Clean (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1141).

Me too!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 09 May 2013, 05:32
Yikes. Hanners is her mother's daughter after all!

"Join me Hannelore, and we shall rule the Galaxy Mother and Daughter!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 09 May 2013, 05:47
Man, those cybernetic implants of Hanners really do have their downsides, don't they?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 09 May 2013, 06:09
I just stumbled on Marten's wishes for the future

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2055 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2055)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2013, 06:13
Well, he had qualifications (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691).
Ha, I just noticed that what Tai said after he Marten passed was almost in iambic pentameter. (Although I think I remember someone here telling me a while ago I was wrong about "hired" being two syllables, something I still disagree with.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 May 2013, 08:11
At first (before chairspin) I thought we were on a random hannermom comic. I guess I was half right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 09 May 2013, 08:12
Well, he had qualifications (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691).
Ha, I just noticed that what Tai said after he Marten passed was almost in iambic pentameter. (Although I think I remember someone here telling me a while ago I was wrong about "hired" being two syllables, something I still disagree with.)

It's only one syllable south of the Mason-Dixon line.   

As in, "Man, I'm Tired" (Man, I'm TAHR'D). 

"You're hired" (Yer HAHR'D) (not to be confused with, "You're hard!")

Even so, there can be a trailing syllable in iambic pentameter, since it's not a full iamb (keeping it short of a hexameter).  There are several examples throughout the bard's works. 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hanners really has a hard time keeping those unpleasant thoughts at bay, doesn't she? 

"Kill all the witnesses"

"Kill 'em with a knife"

I'd link, but who has time?  I shouldn't even be in here...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 09 May 2013, 08:17
I think it's "Kill your friends, kill them with a knife"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jeva on 09 May 2013, 08:28
My internal dialogue reading today's strip:
-Panel 1: "Dang that's a nice office"
-Panel 2a/b: "Oh ho, what's hanner's mum up to now? Also that dude gets serious head sweats"
-Panel 3: "Oh my goodness! Excitement and intrigue! What is this? Evil Clone?! Secretly running an evil MegaCorp?!"
-Panel 4: "Maaan, little bit of an anticlimax"

I mean it was still great, funny as heck, but sometimes I wish we had more outlandish/adventurous plots, like the space station arc. Not quite to the extreme of Hannelore's evil clone twin destroying the world sort of level, but something outside of the normal everyday goings on perhaps.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 09 May 2013, 08:36
I think it's "Kill your friends, kill them with a knife"

The second one, yeah.  The first one is from the comic where she had an illegal baton. 


And there are probably other unwanted thoughts we don't even know about... some people are better at suppressing them than others. 



What happens if her meds remove too many of her inhibitions?  Who (besides the road crew) is going to die first...?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 09 May 2013, 09:19
Hanners looks disturbingly convincing as a Bond-villain mother's daughter (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DaddysLittleVillain). But the final panel suggests not so much a five-year-plan, so much as... a vision of the future? Is she a precog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precognition)? Or is it her mother's five year plan for her to take over as head of Evilco?

Does it matter?

Let's hope Jeph rolls out this storyline, it'll be awesome!

Just so long as she doesn't forget "No Monologues!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 09 May 2013, 10:34
In fact, give her the whole Evil Overlord List. She will be delighted. She will probably add 1000 items to it too.

Hanners seems like the person who would do a depth-first search on emergencies (cf. the relevant xkcd).

I would also like some more outlandish arcs. Like the violent buddhist monks, Steve's ex-Soviet Foe Yay girlfriend, agent Turing etc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jmucchiello on 09 May 2013, 11:34
"Join me Hannelore, and we shall rule the Galaxy Mother and Daughter!"
"What? Why should I share rule of the Galaxy with YOU?" **BLAST**
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zilcho on 09 May 2013, 13:53
Hanners looks disturbingly convincing as a Bond-villain mother's daughter (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DaddysLittleVillain). But the final panel suggests not so much a five-year-plan, so much as... a vision of the future? Is she a precog (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precognition)?
Yes. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2036)

As far as we know Steve's life has yet to be engulfed by butts. So Hanners' psychic abilities are surely still in question.

Though I guess we haven't seen Steve for a little while so who knows what possible butt related adventures he could be having.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 09 May 2013, 13:57
We've not seen him for a while because Cosette has been pimping out his butt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 09 May 2013, 13:58
Well, it is implied (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2301) that Steve has had a butt-related adventure involving Claire and a $20 transaction.

Warning - while you were typing an asteroid collided with the earth and destroyed all life.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: willpell on 09 May 2013, 15:49
Massive lols at today's comic (which I didn't realize I'd failed to see last night, though it's no great surprise given how busy I was).  I thought at first we were actually going to see Mrs. Ellicot-Chatham (does she still have both names?) herself, actually doing some corporate thing which would end up impacting Marten's or Faye's life without her even knowing it, or something of that sort.  But this was better.

Seriously, though, what exactly does M. E-C.'s company do?  And why the hell does she need such an immense office?  What could you possibly do with all that space?  Aside from being intimidating, which is pretty redundant when you're the CEO and can destroy someone's life with a phone call.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 09 May 2013, 15:59
Ok, so actual comic discussion: is it a computer virus or a physical virus?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 09 May 2013, 16:05
Quote from: Jeph
Could be both.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 09 May 2013, 16:08
*brain tries to process how that would work*

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 09 May 2013, 16:09
Snow Crash? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Crash)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2013, 16:49
*brain tries to process how that would work*

 :psyduck:
Easy. AnthroPCs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 May 2013, 17:58
This isn't a pineapple under the sea, it's a coffee shop under an iron fist.

And the difference is?


Nothing like a bit of exposition to move a plot along.

Hello there, glad to meet you!
Welcome to the worlds of Bikini Bottom and Questionable Content. My name is Loki. People affectionately refer to me as "that weird guy with a degree in comics and cartoons".
Those worlds are inhabited far and wide by creatures we call "characters".
For some people, characters are a source of entertainment.
Others use them for projecting everything they feel onto them and over-analyzing their behavior.
As for myself... I used to waste time consuming both.
You may wonder about the differences between the two worlds.
In one, creatures do pointless things and occasionally have some drama. In the other.... well, wait. There is no difference.

Now tell me. Are you a boy? Or a girl?

I think my signature answers that.


OMG!!!

Hanners is C. Montgomery Burns' lovechild!!!!   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2013, 18:53
Hanners is Rodney Dangerfield?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 May 2013, 19:30
*brain tries to process how that would work*

 :psyduck:
Easy. AnthroPCs.

Bio electronic gel packs? Is there a cheese to be taken to sickbay?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 09 May 2013, 20:36
Hanners in a powersuit.  I approve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2013, 21:16
*brain tries to process how that would work*

 :psyduck:
Easy. AnthroPCs.

Bio electronic gel packs? Is there a cheese to be taken to sickbay?
Pintsize got a virus that was both computer and physical, when he got those weird thumbs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mtmerrick on 09 May 2013, 21:20
That was a faulty firmware upgrade, not a virus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2013, 21:22
...true. But there's no reason to think a virus couldn't do that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 09 May 2013, 21:45
Hanners in a powersuit.  I approve.

For half a second my mind registered that as power armor. Now that would be terrifying. And she can probably get one too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 09 May 2013, 21:54
...true. But there's no reason to think a virus couldn't do that.

Exactly. A virus that propagates via firmware updates sounds reasonable to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kees on 13 Jun 2013, 00:36
I may have made a live-action version of Hannelore's imagination for my student film ...

https://vimeo.com/68009319 (https://vimeo.com/68009319)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Jun 2013, 02:24
Welcome to the forums.  That's quite the entrance ticket you've provided - well done, indeed!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 13 Jun 2013, 08:13
I may have made a live-action version of Hannelore's imagination for my student film ...

https://vimeo.com/68009319 (https://vimeo.com/68009319)

Very cool.  I like this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 13 Jun 2013, 08:38
Next step: get Dora and Faye Dust 514 dropsuits.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 13 Jun 2013, 09:09
Was that map in the background stolen from U.N.C.L.E. headquarters?
(points if you get why)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kees on 13 Jun 2013, 14:28
Thanks! Glad you guys enjoyed it.

I've been reading QC for a long time, and 2443 happened just as I was looking for a really short story I could turn into a single-page screenplay.

As for the map, we seriously lucked out. While finding a place that had a great view, we stumbling on that location and it already had a world (domination) map on the wall! It was clearly meant to be.

I made sure to wear my pintsize t-shirt while filming. Seemed only appropriate.  :-D
(http://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/rockpintsizesmall.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 13 Jun 2013, 14:56
Nice wee film. Good amount of angles. (Also a film student.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2440-2444 (6-10 May, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 13 Jun 2013, 18:06
Very spiffy film short. Nice job, thanks for posting it!