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Title: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 May 2013, 09:15
So, as I couldn't find any threads about it, I figured a thread about Marvel's hugely successful cinematic universe was due.

I assume most people around here with any interest in Marvel and superheroes have seen Iron Man 3 by now, so what do you think? I liked it, but the plot was pretty underwhelming and underexplained. Also, movie kids; I hate movie kids..  :x

Also, like any self-respecting geek, I love to speculate. One thing I like to speculate about, is BO numbers (gross cinema revenues, if you're not that into films, other than watching them :roll: ), and Iron Man 3 has made some pretty damn impressive numbers, crossing $1,1 billion world-wide. That's an increase of ~77% from Iron Man 2. With this kind of increase, likely much due to the massive success of The Avengers, do you think we can expect a proportional growth for Thor 2 and Captain America 2? Or even more, considering they have lower starting points? Anyways, an equal increases would mean a BO result of ~$796M for Thor 2 (from $449M) and ~$653M for Captain America 2 (from $369M).

Anyways, beyond those two, we have perhaps the most exciting film so far; Guardians of the Galaxy. I know nothing about the franchise, but the prospect of Avengers meets Star Wars + talking raccoon and  tree gets the child in me excited. Mixed feelings about James Gunn (director), but we'll see!

After that is The Avengers 2, recently announced to feature mutants Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (son and daughter of Magneto), but obviously without any connection to mutants, Magneto and the X-Men (Fox' property).

Then, phase III starts out with Ant-Man, directed by Edgar Wright.

Detailed (current) release dates:
Thor: The Dark World                       - November 8, 2013
Captain America: The Winter Soldier  - April 4, 2014
Guardians of the Galaxy                   - August 1, 2014
The Avengers 2                              - May 1, 2015
Ant-Man                                        - November 6, 2015

After that, the properties that seems the most likely to make their way into the MCU, appears to be Black Panther, Dr. Strange and the Inhmans.

So, lots of listing and factual information here, but what are you looking the most forward to? What IPs do you hope to see in the big screen?
Oh, and there is now a trailer for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3T-evQZiQo), the upcoming TV series by Joss Whedon. I'm almost looking more forward to that, than many of th movies  :-D

Anyways, I'm really looking forward to the new IPs, starting with GotG. How about you?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 26 May 2013, 09:27
I've actually only seen The Avengers/Avengers Assemble. :( I really should get around to seeing the others.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 May 2013, 09:59
You really should!

While not high art or anything, they are definitely fun movies, and the connected universe gives extra nuggets to those who pay attention and watch post-credits :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 26 May 2013, 10:31
The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver might be the key to bringing the X-men and the Brotherhood into the MCU, especially with the next X-men film in the works is supposedly based on Days of Future Past.

To be honest, I'm hoping that Marvel and Sony can work out a deal to get Spider-man into the MCU as well, for a few reasons, not least of which that the webhead was always my favourite hero and it'd be fun to see someone out-snark Tony Stark.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 May 2013, 11:55
Not to be a kill-joy, but you shouldn't get your hopes up seeing an X-Men crossover any time soon, and sure as hell not Spider-Man. At least, not anything but small easter eggs, like the planned inclusion of the Oscorp tower (from The Amazing Spider-Man) into the New York skyline in The Avengers (which got scrapped due to not being finished in time).

There's just no way Marvel could ever negotiate any large scale crossover with Sony and Fox, even if it would be mutually beneficial.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: mtmerrick on 26 May 2013, 12:01
You guys keep saying this about spiderman,  yet you all seem to forget about the disney/marvel animated spiderman series,  which in fact features most aspects of the marvel cinematic universe,  including the avengers,  SHIELD,  ect,  and fits into the marvel cinematic storyline. It also includes Wolverine and some other mutants.

AKA what you're asking for ALREADY EXISTS. :P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 26 May 2013, 12:12
Not to be a kill-joy, but you shouldn't get your hopes up seeing an X-Men crossover any time soon, and sure as hell not Spider-Man. At least, not anything but small easter eggs, like the planned inclusion of the Oscorp tower (from The Amazing Spider-Man) into the New York skyline in The Avengers (which got scrapped due to not being finished in time).

There's just no way Marvel could ever negotiate any large scale crossover with Sony and Fox, even if it would be mutually beneficial.

Sony only made the Amazing Spider-man because they were about to lose the rights to him. But considering as well that The Avengers' profit was more than the previous MCU films combined. Money, in all matters, is a great motivator.

You guys keep saying this about spiderman,  yet you all seem to forget about the disney/marvel animated spiderman series,  which in fact features most aspects of the marvel cinematic universe,  including the avengers,  SHIELD,  ect,  and fits into the marvel cinematic storyline. It also includes Wolverine and some other mutants.

AKA what you're asking for ALREADY EXISTS. :P

There is a huge difference between an animated on-screen snark battle between two characters and watching a live-action scene where Fury/Tony asks Spider-man if he webbed his feet to the floor and having young Peter swinging off with a trollish "maybe".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: mtmerrick on 26 May 2013, 12:18
I've seen a few episodes, but none of the ones with Tony stark yet. My sister (who is crazy about this series) is my source of most of the info I have about this show.

But i HAVE seen that exact scene you described,  with spidey and fury. And it was excellent.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 30 May 2013, 13:50
The ultimate crossover has already been pitched guys!

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 30 May 2013, 13:58
To answer your question Edguy, no, I don't think we'll see proportional growth for the upcoming Phase II sequels. The Avengers was very cleverly designed to be both a sequel crossover, and a starting point for a lot of people who weren't going to watch Iron Man 2.5, but were going to watch the most talked about summer blockbuster. Hell, I know people who went to see Iron Man 3 without seeing the previous 2 - and really, it was again a product of design for its audience. It was a sequel to the Avengers, more than it was a sequel to Iron Man 2.

Thor and Cpt. America don't have the legs that Iron Man does. The original theatrical trailers for The Avengers made it look like Tony Star and Friends. Robert Downy Jr is hands down the most marketable out of the entire league of all involved in the MCU and that's what it really boils down to.

However, I am excited by the sequels and hope they will bolster some admittedly weaker character developments thus far. Can Thor 2 make me finally give a crap about Chris Hemsworth and his character? Will the Winter Soldier actually be a decent villiain, rather than Hugo Weaving kind of phoning it in with some choppy CGI? More and more the success of the MCU lies in character development and maintaining a relatively understandable story arc. Guardians of the Galaxy is so far an unknown franchise to me, and I've heard John C Reiley is in the running to play the lead guy.

But on their own, these characters can't pull the kind of audience that will surpass the $1billion mark. Or at least, I'll be very surprised if they do. We've just got to hope they leave Hulk alone, standalone Hulk films don't fare too well - although again, Marvel Studios have said they may do a film with him along the lines of the Planet Hulk arc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ackblom12 on 30 May 2013, 14:05
Yeah, Hulk is pretty difficult lead character to do well in film format for some damn reason. It may have something to do with how bad Hollywood is at mixing proper character development and action, but it's pretty much always either really bad and unenjoyable, or enjoyable camp.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 30 May 2013, 14:11
Bingo - the key word there being development.

The Hulk movies of the past generally just have Hulk in an uncontrollable rage smashing the shit out of things and killing army guys. Always confused me that at the end of the 2008 version, Ed Norton gives this little green-eyed smirk, as if his previous torment, pain and forced seclusion was just leading up to everything being 'ok'. Also, Liv Tyler was awful. Actually, the premise of good Hulk vs Bad brown Hulk was just lazy to be honest. Based on what I saw in the Avengers and the after-credit sequence for Iron Man 3, Ruffalo is a great choice and hopefully the writers are being careful enough with h im - the decision to not make him a super-serious character in The Avengers definitely made him more memorable in the long run.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 30 May 2013, 15:44
I think both Norton and Ruffalo brought to the fore different versions of Bruce Banner, from different eras of the comics. Norton is the younger Bruce, still trying to find a cure for his transformation, still dealing with all the emotions that he had previously kept to himself. Ruffalo, on the other hand, is the later Bruce, tired from always having to run away and now possesses a weary acceptance of the other guy.

Both played their characterisations of Banner quite well, in my opinion and its quite likely Norton would have been brought back for Avengers if he hadn't acted the primadonna about several things.

As for RDJ in Avengers, it became pretty clear that the team pretty knew who was going to be breakout star, you can see it in the promotional pictures, as the likes of Chris Evans and Chris Helmsworth were moved from having an equal standing with RDJ and pushed further and further back. Part of that though is that a lot of people saw Robert Downey Jr's lowest point in the 90s and the slow road he's taking in rebuilding his career, because in their mind, its not Robert Downey Jr as Tony Stark (Who was himself a take on Howard Hughes), its Robert Downey Jr as himself.  Both have gone from being strongly disliked individuals to well loved and incredibly popular. He's the former bad boy and people love it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 31 May 2013, 06:31
To answer your question Edguy, no, I don't think we'll see proportional growth for the upcoming Phase II sequels. The Avengers was very cleverly designed to be both a sequel crossover, and a starting point for a lot of people who weren't going to watch Iron Man 2.5, but were going to watch the most talked about summer blockbuster. Hell, I know people who went to see Iron Man 3 without seeing the previous 2 - and really, it was again a product of design for its audience. It was a sequel to the Avengers, more than it was a sequel to Iron Man 2.

Thor and Cpt. America don't have the legs that Iron Man does. The original theatrical trailers for The Avengers made it look like Tony Star and Friends. Robert Downy Jr is hands down the most marketable out of the entire league of all involved in the MCU and that's what it really boils down to.

Yeah, breaking the billion dollar mark seems pretty unlikely, but is $6-700M-ish too unlikely? While RDJ is the obvious star of the franchise, being in the top league with the likes of Depp and DiCaprio now, the rest of the franchise should enjoy some considerable growth after The Avengers, as well?! I don't think $600M for CA and $700M for Thor is too unrealistic.

About Hulk, I think it's fair to say he fares best as a supporting character. Especially the way they have developed him in the MCU, as just being the angry side of Bruce Banner, as opposed to a completely different personality. I really hope they don't go the way of Planet Hulk/WW Hulk. I can't for the life of me picturing those being even remotely good.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 01 Jun 2013, 12:03
I saw most of the films leading up to the Avengers Assemble movie, except for Iron Man 2. Iron Man was great, Thor was meh but I will always take a chance to ogel Natalie Portman, Captain America was fuckyeah entertaining but not really a very good movie and the Hulks both kinda sucked.

I liked Avengers Assemble a lot, though. Here is my review for an indication of just how much I liked it. Caution, here be 700 words: http://pronomo.co.uk/2012/05/19/film-review-avengers-assemble/

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ackblom12 on 01 Jun 2013, 12:32
I think Unbreakable still takes that title for me. Dark Knight is a close second, but that might be because of Ledger's Joker and how much I love Nolan's critical deconstruction of supers. Nolan isn't real fond of them.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 01 Jun 2013, 12:41
I actually thought the Watchmen movie was pretty damn good  :-)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 01 Jun 2013, 13:24
Really? I thought Watchmen kinda sucked.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ackblom12 on 01 Jun 2013, 13:26
I enjoyed it despite the flaws, but it's been outdone by so many other Costumed Hero films since then that it's quickly lost ground.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 03 Jun 2013, 08:22
Really? I thought Watchmen kinda sucked.

I guess it's one of those "hate it or love it" films. I actually think Snyder is a great director, and I can't help but love his VFX scenes. As opposed to Nolan's awkward SFX explotions and stiff fighting scenes.

I have high hopes they can compliment each other pretty well on Man of Steel.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 15 Jun 2013, 11:06
sooo uh random "conspiracy theory" on why coulson may still be alive for the SHIELD TV show....
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I doubt it but you never know.....
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 15 Jun 2013, 11:24
Or Phil got to the Erebus Casino and won a second life. (http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh78/ColonelGreen/iHerc1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 16 Jun 2013, 03:14
sooo uh random "conspiracy theory" on why coulson may still be alive for the SHIELD TV show....
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I doubt it but you never know.....

Holy crap. Mind = blown! I try to watch the Phase I films and notice stuff like that but damn. When is the TV show supposed to be set? Between the Avengers movies? I suppose it has to be post-Avengers...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 Jun 2013, 07:05
It has been confirmed to take place after The Avengers, yes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Jul 2013, 10:35
Some gossip about Guardians of the Galaxy and the Avengers 2.


EDIT;

The rumors of Vin Diesel being in talks for appearing in the MCU are more or less confirmed (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=106307).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Jul 2013, 07:41
Avengers sequel officially annouced and named; Avengers: Age of Ultron (http://www.totalfilm.com/news/the-avengers-2-confirmed-as-avengers-age-of-ultron-comic-con-2013)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Jul 2013, 11:01
People are in an uproar that Hank Pym won't be involved with Ultron, at least that's what Joss Whedon is saying.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ackblom12 on 22 Jul 2013, 11:33
Because comics find continuity oh so important. :p
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Jul 2013, 11:09
If I'm to guess, I'd say Hank Pym is involved in making Ultron in Avengers 2, but doesn't become Ant-Man until his own film, later that year. At least, that' what I would have done. That would be a sure way to generate interest and awareness around the otherwise pretty obscure Ant-Man film. On the other hand, though, from what I've previously heard, Wright's Ant-Man film is supposed to be it's own thing, not serving the MCU in such a big degree. But things change, maybe they've changed the script to serve better with the larger universe.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 23 Jul 2013, 19:17
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The other day, Joss Whedon revealed that Avengers: Age of Ultron won't feature Ultron's creator, mad scientist Hank Pym. Just now, we were interviewing Edgar Wright about his new film The World's End, and he told us that we will, indeed, meet Hank Pym in Wright's Ant-Man movie
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 25 Jul 2013, 15:50
If you've loved Logan for almost 40 years, here he is. (http://images.halloweencostumes.com/infographics/wolverine-infographic-FULL.jpg)

Original site (http://www.halloweencostumes.com/blog/post/2013/07/17/wolverine-costume-evolution-infographic.aspx) for the aspects of keeping the artist's work their own, etc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Aug 2013, 12:11
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The other day, Joss Whedon revealed that Avengers: Age of Ultron won't feature Ultron's creator, mad scientist Hank Pym. Just now, we were interviewing Edgar Wright about his new film The World's End, and he told us that we will, indeed, meet Hank Pym in Wright's Ant-Man movie

Meh, never believe the details they spill when asked like that. When asked direct questions about characters they haven't revealed yet, they some times choose a white lie before releasing info they weren't planning to release yet (or info that isn't 100 % certain at that point). Not saying that has to be the case, but it is a possibility. It would seem kind of silly wasting an opportunity like this to promote the Ant-Man film.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 04 Aug 2013, 21:47
In all fairness, Henry Pym has had several successors (and at least one pretender). Ant-man has seen Scott Lang and Eric O'Grady take up the mantel, then going into Giant-Man and Bill Foster, who also went by the name Goliath, as did Clint Barton, Foster's nephew Tom and the former villain Erik Josten. Hell, there's even an evil Life Decoy Model of Eric O'Grady still running around the Marvel universe.

Directors are always going to have a little fun messing around with people's heads, giving them false information and twisting things a little bit. It gets even more twisted when you start adapting comics. Giving that Hank Pym and Scott Lang are slated to be major characters, it might be that Pym causes Ultron to go on the rampage in Age of Ultron and Scott Lang taking over in the Ant-man film. Or it could be a dozen other ideas. We just don't know.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 28 Oct 2013, 05:42
So, Thor: TDW is out soon, who's excited? It has been getting decent reviews so far (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_the_dark_world/)!

Also, how well do you think it will do at the box office? Considering the immense gross of Iron Man 3 post-Avengers, it should be able to do at least 6-700 million worldwide, don't you agree?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Oct 2013, 06:28
I really liked Thor, hopefully they can keep the same humor and energy from the first film.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 28 Oct 2013, 11:03
Anyone keeping up with the tie-in TV show Marvel: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.?

It's directly tied into the movie universe with references and featuring a somehow reanimated Agent Coulson, with the mystery of him surviving the Avengers movie or the circumstances of his being there at all being a season-long story arc. Nick Fury and Maria Hill have made cameos in the show, but otherwise this is taking place between and alongside movies timewise.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2013, 13:18
Watched a bit of it and I kinda hate it. It's incredibly 90s in its staging and writing. I just don't think it's very interesting.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2013, 14:36
It's fun enough to keep me watching, but nothing great.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 28 Oct 2013, 15:55
Watched a bit of it and I kinda hate it. It's incredibly 90s in its staging and writing. I just don't think it's very interesting.

Considering the writer, it's not a shock. He has the same structured storytelling style, which was born in the 90s. It's worked well for him so far, his fans seem to enjoy it even if ratings don't support his works.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 29 Oct 2013, 09:38
I'm really enjoying the films (I just had an Avenger's Marathon a few weeks ago when I bought the "Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One" boxed set). Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is fun. It's very reminiscent of Whedon's earlier work in that it'll take a while for it to get up to speed but the more recent episodes are already leagues ahead of the pilot which is exactly what's happened in basically everything but Firefly (which was great all the way through). It's mostly being written by Whedon's brother, who co-wrote Avengers, so there's some differences in style but it's relying heavily on Whedon tropes (young, attractive adventurers kicking the shit out of bad guys while being overly witty) which to be fair, fits in very well with the whole comic book feel.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 03 Nov 2013, 14:49
Just watched The Dark World, was a lot better than the first, I'm happy to say! :) The fight scenes and effects were very interesting, it was chock-full of mostly well executed humor (the film was always on the border to being too unserious about itself, but never seemed to cross it, imo) Hiddleston was great as always, and I really enjoyed his arc in the film! The plot and events were full of logical holes, within the universe's internal logic, but in a movie with so much magic and technology and space and Tolkien-ish lore, that could hardly have been avoided. It never really bothered me much, and I'm the kind of guy that really notices logical holes in films. Really got me pumped for The Winter Soldier and everything that comes next! Btw; there's a post credit scene, obviously. And another one. Definitively worth a few minutes of credits.
I'm really enjoying the films (I just had an Avenger's Marathon a few weeks ago when I bought the "Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One" boxed set). Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is fun. It's very reminiscent of Whedon's earlier work in that it'll take a while for it to get up to speed but the more recent episodes are already leagues ahead of the pilot which is exactly what's happened in basically everything but Firefly (which was great all the way through). It's mostly being written by Whedon's brother, who co-wrote Avengers, so there's some differences in style but it's relying heavily on Whedon tropes (young, attractive adventurers kicking the shit out of bad guys while being overly witty) which to be fair, fits in very well with the whole comic book feel.
I've watched the three first episodes, I believe, and while I liked it, I find I'm mostly just watching it because it's MCU. The witticism is pulled one step too far for my liking. It's no fun when every character is "the witty and jokey one". Pleased to hear it gets better tho!
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Nov 2013, 20:40
Mind if I ask how you saw it? Do you work at a movie theater?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Nov 2013, 01:42
Mind if I ask how you saw it? Do you work at a movie theater?
I live in Europe.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Nov 2013, 09:41
It came out earlier there? Weird.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Nov 2013, 10:48
Not really  :roll:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Nov 2013, 11:18
Why does it make any sense to release things later in different countries? It's asking for your stuff to be pirated.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 04 Nov 2013, 11:40
One part of cynic/conspiracist me would say that's because they actually do want it to be pirated. Then they can cry about how nasty people are stealing their lunch money.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Nov 2013, 12:42
Ha, holy shit, I just thought of something. I wonder if piracy can be written off as a loss for tax purposes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 04 Nov 2013, 14:15
Yeah I'm in Vienna, Austria at the moment and for lack of anything better to do I went to see The Dark World twice. It's actually quite good and overall a better film than the first one. Almost everyone plays their roles well and characters that we didn't really see much of in the first one get fleshed out a little more which is really nice. Probably the main problem I had with this one is Jane Foster being a pretty boring damsel in distress. Given that she's also meant to be a physicist with several degrees, she's played kind of dumb throughout and I feel like Portman kind of phoned this one in. Given that she apparently only wanted to do the first one to work with Kenneth Branagh I can kind of see the lack of enthusiasm in her performance. Otherwise, very good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Nov 2013, 14:23
Why does it make any sense to release things later in different countries? It's asking for your stuff to be pirated.

I don't think piracy is a big issue before the release of DVD/Br. Who the hell downloads cam recordings anyways?  :-o :roll:

Anyways, I'm sure there's a lot of factors that work in on the distribution schedule. Some times it's not the best option to release a movie the same week in every region.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Nov 2013, 14:28
I know, I know, but I still think it's shitty not to.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 04 Nov 2013, 14:37
Also: DVD regions.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Nov 2013, 14:41
Now those are asking for piracy. "Oh, I like something enough to order it and pay for it to be shipped halfway around the world! But even if I do so, it won't work without a specialized DVD player."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: pwhodges on 04 Nov 2013, 14:45
Who the hell downloads cam recordings anyways?

I have once (and I bought the BD on the day of release in Japan, so they lost nothing there).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 04 Nov 2013, 17:08
Probably the main problem I had with this one is Jane Foster being a pretty boring damsel in distress. Given that she's also meant to be a physicist with several degrees, she's played kind of dumb throughout and I feel like Portman kind of phoned this one in. Given that she apparently only wanted to do the first one to work with Kenneth Branagh I can kind of see the lack of enthusiasm in her performance. Otherwise, very good.

 :-\ I already felt this way about her in the first one. Shame that seems to continue to be the case.  Glad it's good otherwise though! Got plans to see it on the 15th with some friends!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 04 Nov 2013, 20:33
Just watched the most recent episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and one thing that ties directly into the universe post-Avengers is the underlaying season story arc.
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 05 Nov 2013, 03:12
Actually with the first Thor film it's a similar problem but I didn't read Foster as a damsel in distress in that one. I mean yeah her stuff gets taken by SHIELD but for the most part she is not actually at risk. In the first one she kind of gets swept up in Thor's story but isn't really hugely important aside from teaching Thor some humility (but really she didn't even need to be there which is a different problem). In the Dark World, Foster becomes a plot point which at least makes her important but really again, it could have been anyone.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 05 Nov 2013, 05:46
Actually with the first Thor film it's a similar problem but I didn't read Foster as a damsel in distress in that one. I mean yeah her stuff gets taken by SHIELD but for the most part she is not actually at risk. In the first one she kind of gets swept up in Thor's story but isn't really hugely important aside from teaching Thor some humility (but really she didn't even need to be there which is a different problem). In the Dark World, Foster becomes a plot point which at least makes her important but really again, it could have been anyone.
I agree with this, but the film didn't take it's own plot seriously for me to ever care much about plot elements etc. :) It, like The Avengers, walked a fine line between dramatic and silly.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 05 Nov 2013, 16:39
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 07 Nov 2013, 12:52
Netflix signed a deal with Marvel to bring online several new shows based on mutiple properties, such as The Defenders, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Daredevil. This should expand the universe even more with these other underrated characters who either haven't gotten any exposure, only got exposure through the Disney XD TV shows, or have a bad movie hanging over their heads....

There was also a report that Marvel's most famous character, whose rights are currently under contract with Sony, could join the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the future- Maybe in time for Avengers 3!!!!!  :-o
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Nov 2013, 14:33
...Not going to say who that is then?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Nov 2013, 15:10
Spider-Man.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 07 Nov 2013, 15:31
Didn't realize I didn't say who it was...my apologies.

It would fit in with the way things are going with the movies, the Amazing Spider-Man franchise should be done by 2018 with him being free to be used in Avengers 3.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Nov 2013, 15:32
Oh for fuck's sake that means another Spiderman reboot that I don't want to watch.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 07 Nov 2013, 15:37
Oh for fuck's sake that means another Spiderman reboot that I don't want to watch.

It's actually aready started, last year's Amazing Spider-Man was the first installmen and Amazing Spider-Man 2 is being released next year.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Nov 2013, 15:44
Oh for fuck's sake that means another Spiderman reboot that I don't want to watch.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Nov 2013, 16:49
Maybe not, they just might use this one
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Azumas_Revenge on 08 Nov 2013, 07:01
Certain characters do not belong in an Avengers movie this early in the continuity. Spider-man is one of them.

I'd sooner like to see some reference to Swordsman, Wonderman, perhaps even the Vision.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 08 Nov 2013, 09:49
Didn't realize I didn't say who it was...my apologies.

It would fit in with the way things are going with the movies, the Amazing Spider-Man franchise should be done by 2018 with him being free to be used in Avengers 3.

I can picture it, Sony being all like: "Oh, yeah, we finished up the planned quadrology by now, so we'll just give you back this multi-billion IP now, because we're such good guys :)"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Nov 2013, 09:54
*tetralogy

Also less "because we're such good guys" and more "because we're getting a share of the profits".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 08 Nov 2013, 14:28
Didn't realize I didn't say who it was...my apologies.

It would fit in with the way things are going with the movies, the Amazing Spider-Man franchise should be done by 2018 with him being free to be used in Avengers 3.

I can picture it, Sony being all like: "Oh, yeah, we finished up the planned quadrology by now, so we'll just give you back this multi-billion IP now, because we're such good guys :)"

Depends on how their contract is set up...Marvel was going to do it with Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch with them possibly being used in both the X-Men franchise and the Avengers franchise.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 08 Nov 2013, 18:54
Yeah, but the thing with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver is that they're both heavily connected to the X-Men and The Avengers. Thus the contract they worked out goes such that Fox can use them, but not make any mention their of affiliation with The Avengers, while Marvel can use them, but not make any mention of their mutant background, their connection to the X-Men, or Magneto (their father).

Thaid said, it's obviously not impossible that Marvel/Disney and Sony could make a deal to do a crossover, or possibly even merge their franchises; it would most likely be very profitable. I just don't think it's remotely likely. Even though there's profit in it for them both, I can't imagine they could ever negotiate a deal that both parties would be happy about. Besides, to make things fit together, they'd might have to reboot or retcon Spider-Man again, and that wouldn't be very popular or smart.. :laugh:                 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 08 Nov 2013, 19:27
Yeah, but the thing with Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver is that they're both heavily connected to the X-Men and The Avengers. Thus the contract they worked out goes such that Fox can use them, but not make any mention their of affiliation with The Avengers, while Marvel can use them, but not make any mention of their mutant background, their connection to the X-Men, or Magneto (their father).

Thaid said, it's obviously not impossible that Marvel/Disney and Sony could make a deal to do a crossover, or possibly even merge their franchises; it would most likely be very profitable. I just don't think it's remotely likely. Even though there's profit in it for them both, I can't imagine they could ever negotiate a deal that both parties would be happy about. Besides, to make things fit together, they'd might have to reboot or retcon Spider-Man again, and that wouldn't be very popular or smart.. :laugh:               

There is something else that I found out searching into the Marvel/Sony contract- Sony is in trouble financially. They could be forced to renegotiate their contract with Disney/Marvel for the rights to Spider-Man allowing him to join into the movie universe, and still retain their rights to him.  There is also the possibility that they might be forced to simply end the contract, severing ties after the current deal ends after the planned fourth movie in 2018, which would mean the rights would revert to Marvel/Disney and allowing him to be used in the third Avengers movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 08 Nov 2013, 20:29
I haven't looked much into the financhial details, but if something like that were to happen, that would be awesome! How would they handle it though? Would they reboot the character all again? And with that, they'd probably need an own film dedicated to his origin story, considering how major a character he is, and the fact that he's so yound and his origin is a big part of his identity. They could focus and Avengers movie around him, but I don't see that happening. 2018+ is a long time from now, but a third itteration of the same character could be very confusing and off-putting for the general audience. Or they could use the same character? That would cause a lot of continuity problems though, as well as the fact that Andrew Garfield will be the late 30s by then. Not to mention legal problems of using Sony's franchise etc.

Conclusion; I see a lot of problems integrating the web-slinger into the MCU.. :-\
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Nov 2013, 21:19
So I just saw Thor 2. I enjoyed it.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 08 Nov 2013, 21:54
I haven't looked much into the financhial details, but if something like that were to happen, that would be awesome! How would they handle it though? Would they reboot the character all again? And with that, they'd probably need an own film dedicated to his origin story, considering how major a character he is, and the fact that he's so yound and his origin is a big part of his identity. They could focus and Avengers movie around him, but I don't see that happening. 2018+ is a long time from now, but a third itteration of the same character could be very confusing and off-putting for the general audience. Or they could use the same character? That would cause a lot of continuity problems though, as well as the fact that Andrew Garfield will be the late 30s by then. Not to mention legal problems of using Sony's franchise etc.

Conclusion; I see a lot of problems integrating the web-slinger into the MCU.. :-\

The way I see it is that they have him set up as a street-level hero. He isn't the big theatrical hero or S.H.I.E.L.D. agent like the others, he is in his own place going at it from his own neighborhoods while the other events are happening away from where he operates.  Keep the mixing of locaitons to a minimum and don't destroy major places.

And the age thing doesn't seem to be a problem with Sony since that's when they are running the seires through to, the character would only have to age two or three years putting him in college with the third and fourth movie if he isn't already in it in the second.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 09 Nov 2013, 15:04
So I just saw Thor 2. I enjoyed it.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Nov 2013, 19:31
I enjoyed it, but I was kind of confused on why they wrote Hogun out of most of the movie. The Warriors 3 had a pretty big part to play and he wasn't there. Though I did like his new facial hair. I also loved that Darcy called Mjolnir, "Meow-meow," again.

Also, that pre-credit ending. 
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 11 Nov 2013, 07:02
Quote from: Gingerhaze
help I saw Thor 2 and I think I got on the wrong ship
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/2396c1e2f45e107447949af55d35a423/tumblr_mvym6a0fKZ1qeqx7ko1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 11 Nov 2013, 11:45
Doesn't this whole Netflix thing endanger the universe/franchise becoming huge and impassable for anyone who hasn't seen everything that came before?

The first Avengers avoided this by being an all round accessible film. But do sequels put people off? The mythology could end up being it's own undoing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 11 Nov 2013, 15:56
People who don't care enough to check out TV-series and all the movies probably don't care if they don't get all the minor plot elements and easter eggs in the Avengers movies :)

EDIT; MovieBob's review is out (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/8398-Thor-The-Dark-World).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: J on 22 Nov 2013, 02:17
just saw the dark world tonight, and it didn't blow my socks off or anything, but it was quite good nonetheless. fixed all the major problems from the first one, with the exception of portman's character being entirely uninteresting. and it brought enough new ideas to the table to hold my interest between the action sequences.

probably the best thing about it was that loki got to be an actual character again, rather than the cardboard-villain they flattened him into for the avengers.

the other thing is that i really liked the visual look of the film. i just love how pompously ostentatious they made asgard & everything in it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 31 Dec 2013, 15:20
Ladies and gentlebutts. May I present to you: The guardians.
(http://i.imgur.com/ey2jM7N.jpg)

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DC: "Wonder Woman is a difficult character to work out on the big screen." Marvel: "Our next movie has a talking raccoon."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 31 Dec 2013, 15:51
Fear not, Planet Earth. Burt Macklin is on the case.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 31 Dec 2013, 16:28
oh god I thought the same thing!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Jan 2014, 05:13
Ladies and gentlebutts. May I present to you: The guardians.
(http://i.imgur.com/ey2jM7N.jpg)

Quote
DC: "Wonder Woman is a difficult character to work out on the big screen." Marvel: "Our next movie has a talking raccoon."

I'm really looking forward to this, if they can make it work, it can be some seriously entertaining shit!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 13 Jan 2014, 13:17
Michael Douglas has been cast in the upcoming Ant-Man movie as the original Ant-Man, Hank Pym. This should hopefully mean Douglas has a cameo in Avengers 2 since his character created Ultron, the villain of the movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 15 Jan 2014, 16:25
Michael Douglas has been cast in the upcoming Ant-Man movie as the original Ant-Man, Hank Pym. This should hopefully mean Douglas has a cameo in Avengers 2 since his character created Ultron, the villain of the movie.

The talk is that Ultron won't be a creation of Hank Pym, but that he instead will be a corruption of Tony Stark's AI, Jarvis..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 15 Jan 2014, 19:33
Michael Douglas has been cast in the upcoming Ant-Man movie as the original Ant-Man, Hank Pym. This should hopefully mean Douglas has a cameo in Avengers 2 since his character created Ultron, the villain of the movie.

The talk is that Ultron won't be a creation of Hank Pym, but that he instead will be a corruption of Tony Stark's AI, Jarvis..

Interesting idea, but why hire someone else to play the part of Ultron when Paul Bettany could have done it in person? It sounds very fishy as a plot twist, especially when Jarvis as a character is essential to the Avengers not to mention Iron Man as a whole...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jan 2014, 20:52
Nooo, not Jarvis! :(
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Jan 2014, 14:07
The Ant-Man Menace: Why Michael Douglas Makes Me Nervous About Marvel Movies (http://comicsalliance.com/ant-man-movie-michael-douglas-paul-rudd-casting-opinion/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LookingIn on 24 Jan 2014, 08:22
Stan Lee won't make his traditional cameo appearance in a Marvel movie in Guardians of the Galaxy. It is the first non-Blade or Punisher Marvel movie released where he has not had direct involvement in the original works, the other movies involved characters either had a hand in developing, co-created, or wrote for.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 24 Jan 2014, 08:31
It's a dark day
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 14 Feb 2014, 12:26
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19fl0jp3qmkjqgif/ku-xlarge.gif) (http://io9.com/rocket-raccoon-and-groot-rule-in-guardians-of-the-galax-1522141013)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 Feb 2014, 18:53
Where is that from? :o
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Feb 2014, 19:28
It's a dark day
What happened?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 16 Feb 2014, 19:33
It's a dark day
What happened?

Stan Lee won't make his traditional cameo appearance in a Marvel movie
?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Feb 2014, 19:35
the other movies involved characters either had a hand in developing, co-created, or wrote for.
Yeah, but considering this, wouldn't his not making a cameo make sense?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Feb 2014, 20:06
Where is that from? :o

Click the picture, I linked it to the article


It's a dark day
What happened?

Stan Lee won't make his traditional cameo appearance in a Marvel movie in Guardians of the Galaxy. It is the first non-Blade or Punisher Marvel movie released where he has not had direct involvement in the original works, the other movies involved characters either had a hand in developing, co-created, or wrote for.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Feb 2014, 20:13
Yeah, I didn't realize that's what you were referring to, but...
the other movies involved characters either had a hand in developing, co-created, or wrote for.
Yeah, but considering this, wouldn't his not making a cameo make sense?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Feb 2014, 20:21
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19fl0jp3qmkjqgif/ku-xlarge.gif) (http://io9.com/rocket-raccoon-and-groot-rule-in-guardians-of-the-galax-1522141013)
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19fkr9v2fpufugif/ku-medium.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Feb 2014, 21:24
I just enjoy seeing him

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/02/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Toy-Fair-2014-Product-Images.jpg) (http://comicsalliance.com/toy-fair-2014-hasbro-guardians-of-the-galaxy-official-product-images/)

Oh lord that Rocket Raccoon mask is creepy

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/02/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Main.jpg) (http://comicsalliance.com/toy-fair-2014-funko-guardians-of-the-galaxy-pop-vinyl/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 18 Feb 2014, 09:29
 
 Full trailer will be up tonight  :-).

 -----------
 The trailer is here   :-D :

 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 19 Feb 2014, 05:47
Just saw it, looks pretty fun! But will the self-irony be too much? I dunno, really looking forward to this regardless tho! :D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 19 Feb 2014, 05:58
I'll probably watch that on DVD simply because Batista's in it and everything he does will be hilarious to me personally.

It does look quite good, though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Feb 2014, 09:34
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/92e89a2cb9ae29a69ef856ea4499a205/tumblr_n18a76rkTi1qe3p9bo2_250.gif) (http://25.media.tumblr.com/eb874fc2ea3c28d29419b0e28000e896/tumblr_n18a76rkTi1qe3p9bo1_250.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2893fb4bf0d624cd1bafbdf85cf71fc1/tumblr_n18a76rkTi1qe3p9bo3_250.gif) (http://31.media.tumblr.com/4d94e9d80589898521c13a017b41773a/tumblr_n18a76rkTi1qe3p9bo4_250.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 20 Feb 2014, 12:29
 Just to see a little bit more of Rocket Racoon, and him talking:
 
 I was expecting something more like his voice in UMVC3, but then again he just said six words.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 Feb 2014, 20:56
Say hello to the new Fantastic Four
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/02/fffeature.jpg?w=630&h=420&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89) (http://comicsalliance.com/fantastic-four-reboot-casting-analysis-commentary-jordan-mara-bell-teller-fox-movie-marvel/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 20 Feb 2014, 22:05
Into it.

Though I think Ben Grimm/Thing would be better if he was a bit heavier but hey, could be real good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Feb 2014, 22:14
Wait, the douchey kid from Project X is Mr. Fantastic? That's...that's kind of awesome, he was by far the best part of that movie.

Edit: Oh wait, never mind, he was in that movie, but only as a minor character. I was thinking of Oliver Cooper apparently, who has been in little since, which is kind of a shame.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 21 Feb 2014, 01:57
He is, however, the douchey kid from 21 And Over, which his an amusing Hangover ripoff without being anywhere near as mean spirited.

The Thing, however, is Billy Elliott.

H'OKAY DEN
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 21 Feb 2014, 07:25
Say hello to the new Fantastic Four
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/02/fffeature.jpg?w=630&h=420&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89) (http://comicsalliance.com/fantastic-four-reboot-casting-analysis-commentary-jordan-mara-bell-teller-fox-movie-marvel/)
¨

Kinda odd casting..

btw, this isn't actually MCU stuff, this is Fox Marvel :]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 21 Feb 2014, 08:22
Though considering this is supposedly going to cross over with X-Men at some point, it's still technically a Marvel Cinematic Universe... I do get what you mean and had the same thoughts though, Edguy.  :-D

I'm interested in seeing how this pans out. The cast is not what I would expect, but that could be a good thing in a reboot.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 21 Feb 2014, 09:32
this movie looks awesome! Chris Pratt is my spirit animal.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Feb 2014, 09:55
As long as he's a douchebag Mr. Fantastic will be okay.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 21 Feb 2014, 12:56
Wait

What?


So the Storms were an interracial couple??!


Nothing against that, but ummmmmm  .........

Are we looking at a "Fuck Canon" situation here?


Oh!  It's Fox!!!

Never mind.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Feb 2014, 13:30
I'm just curious how they will explain how the siblings are black and white. Plenty of options there... Adoption, remarriage with existing children. Sure, in the comics Sue and Johnny are full blood siblings from white parents... But hey, whoever works best for the role. Stranger things happen in comics. So long as they give some kind of explanation in this case, I'm satisfied. I didn't think any explanation was needed for Nick Fury or Heimdal, but if the Storms remain related... It makes me curious how that worked out. Of course, the internet has blown up about it, predictably.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 21 Feb 2014, 14:23
Because the internet is full of racists.

From what I've heard they're going with adoption which is a good, solid explanation that doesn't really cause any extraneous storyline issues. Also given that the FF get their powers externally it doesn't matter, they don't need to be genetically related.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 21 Feb 2014, 14:59
Kate Mara is in it? I'll skip it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Feb 2014, 18:28
Who's Kate Mara and why is she a problem?

Also honestly I don't care what they do with FF, can't be worse then the last movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 21 Feb 2014, 19:01
Because the internet is full of racists.

From what I've heard they're going with adoption which is a good, solid explanation that doesn't really cause any extraneous storyline issues. Also given that the FF get their powers externally it doesn't matter, they don't need to be genetically related.

The internet blew up over a rumor that Donald Glover might be Spider-man, they're having a shit storm with this

I really want to see the Rock as Namor some time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 22 Feb 2014, 00:42
Except that Donald Glover would be an awesome Spider-man. He doesn't even have to be Peter Parker because they actually have a black Spidey in the fucking comics.

Fuck off internet racists.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 22 Feb 2014, 04:26
Who's Kate Mara and why is she a problem?

The girl pictured under Sue Storm. She was in the first season of American Horror Story and House of Cards and I find her exceedingly annoying. I also don't think she's that good of an actress.

Also since the last FF movie/s were so blah, I'd rather see Glover as Spiderman.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Feb 2014, 06:26
Please don't jinx another Spidey reboot, the last one finally made up for the STAIN of the McGuire era films.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Feb 2014, 08:33
Because the internet is full of racists.

From what I've heard they're going with adoption which is a good, solid explanation that doesn't really cause any extraneous storyline issues. Also given that the FF get their powers externally it doesn't matter, they don't need to be genetically related.

I don't think racism has anything to do with people not wanting unnecessary changes to characters they follow.. The big question is why? Do they have some imaginative creative vision that requires Johnny to be adopted? Sure, then I'm all for it. Sadly, though, I think this is just a publicity stunt, to create controversy and discussion, as well as appealing to larger demographics and "filling diversity quotas". I'd be happy to be proven wrong, tho!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Feb 2014, 11:20
As a side note since Heimdall came up, if any one bitches to you about him being black in the movie, without also bitching about Thor being blonde and best bros with Sif instead of married and Loki's adopted brother instead of his blood nephew... well they've already proven they're ignorant shitheads, but they're also ignorant shitheads without a leg to stand on. Hit them with something heavy in the name of Asgard.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Feb 2014, 13:09
To be fair, there IS a valid complaint, but only that they wasted Idris Elba on a relatively minor role. (Thankfully less minor in Thor 2)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Feb 2014, 15:56
As a side note since Heimdall came up, if any one bitches to you about him being black in the movie, without also bitching about Thor being blonde..

Are you implying Thor's hair isn't blonde..?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 22 Feb 2014, 16:19
I suspect Garand is referring to real Thor not comic Thor. Possibly to deliberately confuse the issue.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Feb 2014, 16:41
Well, if so, I might address that Thor, the movie character, is based on a comic book character, who again is inspired by the Norse god Tor.

Just saying :)

(Also, is there stated somewhere that Tor, the Norse god, doesn't have blonde hair?)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Feb 2014, 17:29
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In Norse mythology, largely recorded in Iceland from traditional material stemming from Scandinavia, numerous tales and information about Thor are provided. In these sources, Thor bears at least fourteen names, is the husband of the golden-haired goddess Sif, is the lover of the jötunn Járnsaxa, and is generally described as fierce-eyed, red-haired and red-bearded.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Feb 2014, 17:35
Fair enough!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Feb 2014, 19:39
Not to sound snotty or anything here, but I like to think I know and have sources for the actual descriptions of my own deities.

Thor's red locks are the origin of the phrase "Let Red Haired thunder see to that!" which is apparently a common curse in certain parts of Scandinavia, and is common amongst some modern heathen communities as a "god dammnit" equivalent.

As to what Method said I'm not trying to confuse or muddy the waters, just making a point about canon

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Feb 2014, 19:58
As to what Method said I'm not trying to confuse or muddy the waters, just making a point about canon

Well, the canon of Norse mythology isn't really relevant to the movie based of a comic book character, just sayin' :]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Feb 2014, 04:42
Sure, hitting the copy paste command on a culture's myths and an active religion's faith then changing a few, very minor details, while nit exactly creative is a valid form of creation (even Thor's role as the guardian of Midgard is a direct lift from historical sources.

Which again is my point, canon is treated like some permanent thing encased in steel never to be moved, but changes and evolves over time as new people create, visualize or otherwise generate/regenerate that character's universe.

That said it would be nice if the Christians got around to screwing with their own mythology instead of messing with everyone else's. Do you think marvel would support Jesus as a character if he was on a quest to defeat the 13 generals of Satan's army and the immortal lich King Solomon? He could totally team up with Dr. Strange
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Feb 2014, 06:10
That said it would be nice if the Christians got around to screwing with their own mythology instead of messing with everyone else's. Do you think marvel would support Jesus as a character if he was on a quest to defeat the 13 generals of Satan's army and the immortal lich King Solomon? He could totally team up with Dr. Strange

Well, DC does have their very own Jesus/Moses (sources disagree) adaptation :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Feb 2014, 06:15
See a bunch of non christian dominated areas for that sort of thing, GM. Misinterpreting christian mythology is a pretty standard thing in in manga and anime. And even US artist and comic writers borrow heavily from christian sources. Dawn, Constantine, dozens at least movies involving god, angels, demons. And that's not even counting the many, many times Satan is used in stories, as both a villain or hero.. sometimes both. Whether used by name or by very clear allusions to him.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Feb 2014, 11:40
And that's not even counting the many, many times Satan is used in stories, as both a villain or hero.. sometimes both. Whether used by name or by very clear allusions to him.

MovieBob did a double episode on that particular subject, just recently! Quite interesting actually:
The Devil You Know part I (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8735-The-Devil-You-Know-Part-I)
The Devil You Know part II (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/8754-The-Devil-You-Know-Part-II)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Feb 2014, 11:45
As to what Method said I'm not trying to confuse or muddy the waters, just making a point about canon

Well, the canon of Norse mythology isn't really relevant to the movie based of a comic book character, just sayin' :]
Also what I was saying was just complimenting the actor, not so much a comment on the plot/character.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Feb 2014, 14:11
See a bunch of non christian dominated areas for that sort of thing, GM. Misinterpreting christian mythology is a pretty standard thing in in manga and anime. And even US artist and comic writers borrow heavily from christian sources. Dawn, Constantine, dozens at least movies involving god, angels, demons. And that's not even counting the many, many times Satan is used in stories, as both a villain or hero.. sometimes both. Whether used by name or by very clear allusions to him.

I was being facetious. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 02 Mar 2014, 07:03
Sure, hitting the copy paste command on a culture's myths and an active religion's faith then changing a few, very minor details

Humanoid aliens with super-advanced technology evoking Stargate rather than any of the traditional stories :o




The new trailer has made me look forward to the Guardians of the Galaxy movie :) even though I'm no fan of Saldana.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Mar 2014, 21:19
Because Stargate wasn't a whole sale expy of multiple culture's religious beliefs/mythology pasted over a "Hey! Ancient Aliens!" conspiracy theory website's central manifesto, which they then proceeded to add MacGyver too? I mean fuck yeah it was brilliant, I have probably watched more SG-1 then I have Star Trek, but it all goes back to appropriation, which Akima's spoken on far more eloquently then I ever will be able to.

Watching Thor: The Dark World finally. Pretty good.

"I have this completely under control!"
"Is that why everything's on fire?"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 01 Apr 2014, 15:37
So, anyone seen Winter Soldier yet? My friends and I are planning to see it soon, but don't mind waiting a little for the traffic to wind down. It's actually gotten really good critique so far (93% on RT (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captain_america_the_winter_soldier_2014/), 63/100 on Mc (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/captain-america-the-winter-soldier)), so I'm really excited to see it!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Apr 2014, 15:39
It doesn't come out until Friday.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 Apr 2014, 16:26
Though it's been out in Europe for a month I believe
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Apr 2014, 16:28
Oy, what the fuck? What manner of bullshit is that?

And please, nobody respond with "it's a common practice". Just because it happens all the time doesn't make it less bullshit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 01 Apr 2014, 18:38
Though it's been out in Europe for a month I believe

More like a week actually, but yes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Apr 2014, 00:09
Oy, what the fuck? What manner of bullshit is that?

The opposite of the usual bullshit that has it the other way round.  Also, the reason for the existence of DVD and BD region coding.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Apr 2014, 01:59
Region coding is also bullshit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: J on 02 Apr 2014, 02:31
so Captain AMERICA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5GjeIeDpk) debuted in europe before it did in america then. huh.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Apr 2014, 03:59
so Captain AMERICA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5GjeIeDpk) debuted in europe before it did in america then. huh.


(Yes, I know it's not ironic, but the song's not about irony so it works)

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 02 Apr 2014, 04:02
Oy, what the fuck? What manner of bullshit is that?

The opposite of the usual bullshit that has it the other way round.  Also, the reason for the existence of DVD and BD region coding.

Was about to say exactly this.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Apr 2014, 04:11
It's still bullshit even when the US gets it first, mind you.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: pwhodges on 02 Apr 2014, 04:17
Oh, we're all agreed, I'm sure.

I've just been reading up on some changes in UK copyright law to come into effect in June.  Specifically, the stuff that explicitly makes it legal to copy stuff that you own for your own backup, format-shifting for copying to players, and the like.  The commentary (on the government site) explains that it is still legal for companies to include copy-prevention in the originals, and still illegal to deliberately circumvent copy-prevention - but makes the point that the companies should see copy prevention as lessening the value of their product to consumers (because it prevents an otherwise legal usage), as so they should seriously consider whether they want to continue it as it is likely to decrease their revenue.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Apr 2014, 04:19
For a DVD release that's delayed here, I can always just pirate the DVD once it's released anywhere to tide me over until it's released here, where I will then buy it. Still illegal, but not unethical, at least I don't think so.

For a theatrical release that's not really an option.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 05 Apr 2014, 22:37
Saw Winter Soldier, it was pretty darn good. I'm really interested to see what happens in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. now.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Apr 2014, 07:39
See I thought it was that, but I hadn't seen it in forever so I didn't remember the words
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 06 Apr 2014, 07:41
Yup, it's that. As soon as I saw it, I thought, "Of COURSE that's what would be there."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Apr 2014, 07:47
Oh, nice! I haven't been keeping up with Agents of SHIELD*, but it's on Hulu Plus, so I can catch up fairly easily this week.

*why the hell does SHIELD have periods? It's an acronym, those don't need periods, nobody says N.A.S.A., do they?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Apr 2014, 11:08
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Marvel: *makes Avengers*

Marvel: *makes Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, and Captain America sagas*

Marvel: *makes Agents of Shield*

Marvel: *makes Guardians of the Galaxy*

Marvel: *makes Black Widow movie*

DC: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...... MORE BATMAN.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 06 Apr 2014, 13:10
If DC ever gets off their assess and make a legit attempt at Justice League, I'll be there. But what they're doing with Superman...meh. Not interested.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 06 Apr 2014, 15:14
Interesting comments made during my D&D session today: (spoilered because actual in universe spoilers)

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 06 Apr 2014, 17:35
Just saw it, and it was good! Darker than most of the other movies, but  with that tongue in cheek and "this is pretty serious stuff, but we still make lots of jokes" tone. Also, really must compliment on choreography in this movie; some of the coolest fight scenes I've ever seen in a "realistic" (as in, not full of giant CGi monsters and robots) movie; incredible choreography. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Apr 2014, 19:02
I fucking loved the latest Captain America.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Apr 2014, 19:10
If DC ever gets off their assess and make a legit attempt at Justice League, I'll be there. But what they're doing with Superman...meh. Not interested.

The problem as I see it is that DC is taking itself way to serious while Marvel movies are fairly fun and light even in their darker moments. I mean for gods sake, they wouldn't say the word Superman in their dang movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Apr 2014, 22:53
Probably because they're worried about Superman becoming the new "I'm Batman":
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 07 Apr 2014, 02:21
Saw Winter Soldier last night. So great. Gonna see it again.

Also I know what you guys mean by DC being way too serious about themselves. I've started watching Arrow and they refuse to call him the Green Arrow, even going so far as saying that it's a stupid name. Though they happily say "Deadshot".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Apr 2014, 04:17
Eh, "The Arrow" works better within the show. It's a far better show than Smallville, at least.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 07 Apr 2014, 06:32
Arrow would have been a decent show if not the cringe-worthy character interaction and romance subplots.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 07 Apr 2014, 14:10
@Edguy, you could say exactly the same of Thor (both movies)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Apr 2014, 17:05
I fucking loved the latest Captain America.

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I was the only one in my theater to laugh at that. Just saw it, great movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 07 Apr 2014, 18:34
I like Arrow and I have a feeling that I'll like The Flash. I haven't seen Smallville since season...2?...but these seem to be less srs bidnez than that show and sometimes do show a sense of humor. But not anywhere near to the extent of the Marvel movies. And while most of my favorite superheroes are DC, well, they did so much better when they were being animated. Although it is quite cool to know that the dude who plays Green Arrow is actually doing most of his monkey-like stunt work.

Also I am very much looking forward to Guardians of the Galaxy. If the entire movie is as silly as the preview, Marvel took the humor in the other movies and turned it to 11. Which I am very ok with.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Apr 2014, 19:00
I've probably said it before, but the entire reason I want to see Guardians is:

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 08 Apr 2014, 01:03
@Edguy, you could say exactly the same of Thor (both movies)
Meh, the Thor films at least had self-awareness of the cheese, which, at least to me, makes it a lot more tolerable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Apr 2014, 04:38
They also had Kat Dennings <3


Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Apr 2014, 05:03
Ohhhh, Kat Dennings <3
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 08 Apr 2014, 18:29
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 14 Apr 2014, 16:20
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if cap3 isn’t called “captain america and falcon: we’re up all night to get bucky”, i’m not watching it
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 15 Apr 2014, 06:25
Wonder if Falcon will show up in Avengers 2.. I mean, him going with Rogers to look for Bucky after the film, and that's probably not gonna go anywhere until Cap 3. So what happens when Rogers gets called in for Avengers 2? "Sorry sidekick-guy, gonna have to go hang a little with the big boys. Ba a good lad, and wait right here for me!"

Also, do any of you have faith in the Netflix series? I can definitely see Luke Cage/Iron Fist working out well, but Daredevil? I fear that his acrobatics and theatrics will look bad on a TV budget.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Apr 2014, 06:34
For the benefit of people such as myself who haven't seen the film - and as such thought Bucky was dead, par exemple - can those posts be put in spoilers?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Apr 2014, 06:50
I'm guessing that you only know about Captain America from the movies then? Bucky surviving his apparent death in WW2 and still being alive is pretty much a big point in Cap's lore.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Apr 2014, 06:59
1. Yes, you are correct, but...
2. The films play pretty fast and loose with the comic continuity to say the least.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 15 Apr 2014, 10:56
For the benefit of people such as myself who haven't seen the film - and as such thought Bucky was dead, par exemple - can those posts be put in spoilers?

Sorry about that, from the way the conversation was going, I assumed spoilers were fair game :]
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 15 Apr 2014, 15:14
The example I always like to use when referring to adaptations and 'obvious' spoilers is that in Ingluorious Basterds
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so if we're playing fast and loose with that for the sake of making a fun movie, I think it's safe to assume nothing when going in, even if you've seen it in the trailer.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Apr 2014, 05:03
From a few weeks back, but I chuckled a great deal when Sif called Phil "Phil, son of Coul".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Apr 2014, 05:13
I really don't know what Thor sees in Jane when Sif's running around being an incredible badass.


I also heard rumors of a Doctor Strange movie. Holy fuck yes please.

Who should play Doc though?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 Apr 2014, 09:51
Eh, I always pictured it as one of those 'They grew up together and he can't see her as anything more than a sister'. Which would make me want to smack Thor but (a) not a very good idea.. and (b) Sif could do better than him anyway.

They really do want to do a Doctor Strange movie and I agree with the 'holy fuck yes' sentiment. And 'Stephen Strange' did get named dropped in The Winter Soldier, so there is that. Could just be an easter egg to comic fans watching, could be a hint. But it's supposedly in line for Avengers Phase 3. I suspect that the likely hood of it being made will depend on how well received Guardians of the Galaxy will be. Rumors say they are looking at Johnny Depp to play Strange... I hope not. I like him, I like his stuff and he was a consistent money maker for Disney, but all he's done for years is 'Captain Jack Sparrow in a new hat'.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Apr 2014, 10:09
Which wouldn't fit Strange at all
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Apr 2014, 10:54
I forget if I've asked this, but why the hell does SHIELD have periods in it? It's an acronym, periods are unnecessary.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 20 Apr 2014, 11:35
I really don't know what Thor sees in Jane when Sif's running around being an incredible badass.

Agreed. I don't know much about the comics, but isn't Sif married to Thor? Jane is lame, can't they just be friends?

Wonder if Falcon will show up in Avengers 2.. I mean, him going with Rogers to look for Bucky after the film, and that's probably not gonna go anywhere until Cap 3. So what happens when Rogers gets called in for Avengers 2? "Sorry sidekick-guy, gonna have to go hang a little with the big boys. Ba a good lad, and wait right here for me!"

Also, do any of you have faith in the Netflix series? I can definitely see Luke Cage/Iron Fist working out well, but Daredevil? I fear that his acrobatics and theatrics will look bad on a TV budget.

I hope Falcon is in Avengers 2, he was freaking awesome. In regards to Netflix, I think it depends on how much money is put into it. House of Cards is very good, but there's not much in the fx dept., and Hemlock Grove is complete and utter shit. So. If it's done as well as Agents of SHIELD, I think it'll be ok.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Apr 2014, 12:31
Yes, in the original canon (You know the actual mythology) Thor and Sif are married.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 20 Apr 2014, 12:59
I know they are in mythology, but I'm not sure about the comics. I only know what's been presented in the movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Apr 2014, 13:22
I don't think they ever mention Thor's romantic status in the comics... relationships are scary m'kay?

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Apr 2014, 07:10
Romantic troubles are always a plotline option in comic books. So long as it's relatively superficial and a source of drama. Mature, lasting relationships don't sell very well. Comic Thor and Sif are apparently betrothed. They were raised together as peers, and Odin thinks she'll make a good Queen of Asgard, so he got them together. They like each other and all, but well... In true godly tradition Thor can't keep the hammer in his pants where mortals are concerned. And Sif doesn't like Midgard all that much. So they're pretty much in a state of eternal engagement with no rush to get married or be bothered with that whole 'monogamous relationship' stuff.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 21 Apr 2014, 14:38
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the Spider-Man movie I've been waiting for yet hoping would never come :') :'( Never thought I'd be happy Sony got the rights. Going in, I was afraid we'd get a repeat of the third Spider-Man movie, and I was also skeptical about the villains they'd picked. I mean, Electro? Rhino? Harry as the Goblin played by an annoying kid?? I don't want to spoil too much so all I'll say out in the open is that they handled the villains pretty well.

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The script is good, the dialogue well-crafted and genuine, and the chemistry between Garfield and the supporting cast is amazing. In this movie, they mostly managed to nail Spidey's voice and his style. I had some problems with Garfield in the first movie, but no longer. Gwen is better than ever, and though she kinda feels like a mix between Gwen and MJ from the comics... well, that's a pretty nice mix innit :) Her and Peter work SO well together. Electro's antics weren't the only sparks flying and I got a little teary-eyed more than once :') Peter and Harry had a couple of short but very good scenes before Harry got a little too melodramatic.

Anyway, great movie, worth the price of admission even if you don't pay half price like we did. Oh yeah, stick around for mid-credits X-Men scene :D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Apr 2014, 14:47
Ha, god damn it, why are we getting ALL the Marvel movies late?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 21 Apr 2014, 15:19
It's a reptilian conspiracy

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: J on 21 Apr 2014, 19:17
i'm gonna stay out of this thread for a while to avoid spoilers, but let me just say that i am really looking foreward to amazing spiderman 2.

i loved the first one, despite some fairly big flaws. i feel like they really wanted to give the film its own sense of identity, distinct from either the comics or the rami films. they really worked to establish the characters and relationships in a way that felt real. and there was a sense of attention to detail that really enhanced everything. even the school bully had his own mini character arc.

and while i know a lot of people took issue with it, i rather liked the fact that peter parker was a bit of a jerk. it gave him some much needed personality, gave a sense of consequence to the death of his parents, and most importantly, gave his character plenty of room to grow.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Apr 2014, 19:25
The new Spiderman movies are the only Spiderman movies I will acknowledge exists. Decent actor Toby McGuire or whatever his name is has never played Spiderman.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Apr 2014, 16:26
So I just saw Captain America 2.

Caution, here be spoilers. Which brings me to my first point.

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You know what's pretty remarkable? That these Marvel films since, and let's be conservative here and say Iron Man, have all been part of one larger universe, one continuity, and so far, while there have been weaker ones (hello, Thor), none of these movies have sucked. They've all been at least good, some of them great, some of them AMAZING. These films are a towering cultural achievement of our time. And while it will suck when we can finally say it's over, I can't wait for the day when a giant, all-singing, all-dancing box set of this entire universe is compiled and I can buy it and put it on my wall and bang someone while I look at it or something.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2014, 16:33
Re: Coulson - they showed what he was up to during the movie's events on AoS.

Re: "Avengers Assemble", I still can't believe they called it that in England. That is just an awful title.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 29 Apr 2014, 16:44
Re: Coulson, I don't know if you've been watching Agents of SHIELD, but they said in Avengers that the whole team is better off thinking Coulson is dead. Because of the show, I do believe that he won't be making appearances in the movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Apr 2014, 16:46
Re: "Avengers Assemble", I still can't believe they called it that in England. That is just an awful title.

Well it's because there's another Avengers over here, although that Avengers is so old now I really don't see how much of a threat it was to the brand.

I don't see the issue with 'Avengers Assemble' as a title, though - I mean... they say that. A lot. Not in the movie, but in the comics (those are some I have read, at least).

As for Coulson, did AoS suddenly stop being filmed in the 1990s and get good? Because it was boring me to tears for the first half of the season and I stopped watching.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Apr 2014, 16:47
It really did. I'm glad I stuck with it, it's been really, really good the past month or so.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Apr 2014, 18:49
I think a lot of issues with Agents of Shield is that they've been doing a lot of time just treading water. Between setting up world building and having to drag their feet to tie into events of Thor Dark World and especially Winter Soldier they had a lot of episodes that were just chaff. When you have that on top of the 'new cast, getting to know each other and the crew' it lead to a lot of headshakingly bad moments. Now that the Hydra is out of the bag though, it's really taken off. There are still two episodes left to make or break it... We'll see if they go in for a second season. Clearly it's not been big enough to sign them up halfway through the first... But they also probably want to keep Joss Whedon busy working for them.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Apr 2014, 03:57
Also, I forgot to mention.
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2014, 04:20
Except it didn't suck?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Apr 2014, 04:44
Skyfall was awesome.

I, like Gareth cannot wait for the MCU box sets.

Idea: Release Box sets chronologically tied to the Avengers movie they're centered around. So MCU box set one has Two Iron Man movies, Thor, Captain America (Fuck Yeah), etc capped off by the Avengers.

MCU 2 will have Thor The Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man III, and possibly Hawk Eye/Black Widow/Dr. Strange if they get to those before Avengers 2

and so forth.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2014, 04:50
I had so many problems with Skyfall. Quantum was a quality drop from CR, but Skyfall was a further drop, and what sucks is that everyone liked it more. But this isn't the right thread for that, so I'll move on.

I can't see Hawkeye getting his own movie. BW...maybe, but after tWS it seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Apr 2014, 05:37
Widow isn't interesting enough to have her own movie for my money.

Has it ever been addressed why she has an American accent when she's a former KGB agent?

Also, head on over to the movie thread if you fancy ranting about Skiffle.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Apr 2014, 06:57
Black Widow and Doctor Strange movies are on the table, I think as possible Phase 3 movies. That doesn't mean they will happen of course. Right now they are in the 'rolling around, see if we can make them work/make a lot of money off of them'. I think that a lot of it will depend on how well Guardians of the Galaxy works out. As much as they love to talk about how the Avengers are supposed to be the 'lesser known characters of the Marvel Universe' compared to the X-Men, Spiderman or the Fantastic Four... they aren't. They really aren't. The Avengers as a group, Captain America, Iron Man, Thor and the Hulk are some of Marvel's biggest named characters.

Less popular Avengers like Black Widow, Hawkeye or any of the Captain Marvels would be riskier to have run with. Right now Guardians is in that big risk category for them. They've used their big name star power to build brand credit... Will that credit be enough to pack people in to see less well known characters? And will they produce another movie that's fun to watch on it's own, while at the same time adding more to the shared universe?

If we do get a Black Widow movie, I hope that it will be co-starring Hawkeye. Spy thriller with super heroes will work, so was shown by Winter Soldier. And they are shown to have worked well together in the past, and like each other. Also importantly to trust each other enough to work together post SHIELD and outside the Avengers. So it make sense.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 04 May 2014, 09:51
Widow has an American accent because she's a super-spy :o I really can't stand Renner so, as much as I'd like to see a Black Widow movie, maybe I'm better off without one.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2014, 10:18
Renner was great in The Hurt Locker and has been decent enough in everything since, but he still hasn't run out of good will from tHL, so I'll see pretty much* anything he's in.

*I never got around to seeing Hansel and Gretel. I may one of these days but it's not a priority.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2014, 12:19
I just watched Amazing Spider-man 2 and I thought it was ok. I still enjoy the second Spider-man movie the most, but I definitely put it above Spider-man 3. It did suffer a little from too many villains, but it it used them a lot more conservatively then Spider-man 3 did. I mean:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2014, 17:45
I liked it a lot more than I thought I would.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2014, 19:06
Really? Cause I enjoy Andrew Garfield as Spider-man. He isn't the best Peter Parker, Tobey McGuire beats him there, but he's an amazing Spider-man. I mean just look at the sarcasm in this:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2014, 19:08
Well to be fair, pretty much everything I heard was "it's bad". And I enjoyed it a lot, so...yeah, really. I really enjoyed

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 May 2014, 19:36
Really? Cause I enjoy Andrew Garfield as Spider-man. He isn't the best Peter Parker, Tobey McGuire beats him there, but he's an amazing Spider-man. I mean just look at the sarcasm in this:
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I prefer Andrew Garfield as both Parker and Spiderman, and the Garfield films over the Parker movies (which I have conveniently forgotten exist) by a wide margin.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 08 May 2014, 07:16
Saw Capt. America 2 last night....sooo many questions. I really liked it!  Very clever story what with the plot being social commentary. Think I'll check out the TV show.  :-D

Admittedly I was distracted as I was paying attention to where in DC they were in scenes, since I work/live here
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 09 May 2014, 13:27
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 10 May 2014, 07:45
Skyfall was awesome.

I, like Gareth cannot wait for the MCU box sets.

Idea: Release Box sets chronologically tied to the Avengers movie they're centered around. So MCU box set one has Two Iron Man movies, Thor, Captain America (Fuck Yeah), etc capped off by the Avengers.

MCU 2 will have Thor The Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man III, and possibly Hawk Eye/Black Widow/Dr. Strange if they get to those before Avengers 2

and so forth.

Uh, you know that's a thing that exists (http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Assembled-Collectors/dp/B0083SBMGW), right?

I have it. It's great. Can't wait for Phase 2 (which should be Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Cap 2, Guardians, possibly Ant-Man? and Avengers 2).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 10 May 2014, 08:22
I was thinking all along that Ant-Man (holy crap, there's a hyphen! How have I never noticed that???) was going to be phase three since I knew the next Avengers Movie was 2015 and I've yet to hear of a release date for Ant-Man. Apparently Ant-Man is planned for around July 17th, 2015 (in the US), which is around 2.5 months after Avengers 2. I wouldn't expect it to be good enough pacing-wise to be the end cap to phase 2, but I'm waiting to be proven wrong!

Also, yes, I have that collector's edition as well. Still need to actually force my boyfriend to marathon those movies with me. He somehow missed seeing the Thors and he needs to know how much of an improvement 2 is over 1.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 May 2014, 08:48
Argh, that looks awesome, but I already own a few of those movies and even if I didn't, $219 is just...no. I can't.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 10 May 2014, 12:25
hope hulk shows up again in a movie.  I rather liked the Edward Norton one.  Which also kicked off the avenger's movies.  Is the one with Eric Bana not considered part of this cinematic universe's continuity?

I still need to see Iron man 3 (and the eric bana hulk movie if it is cannon).  Other than that I would now be all caught up.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 May 2014, 12:50
Ant-Man is not part of phase 2 (which obviously ends with Avengers 2), and so kicks off phase 3 :)

hope hulk shows up again in a movie.  I rather liked the Edward Norton one.  Which also kicked off the avenger's movies.  Is the one with Eric Bana not considered part of this cinematic universe's continuity?

Hulk (2003) is not part of the cinematic universe. When Marvel made Marvel Studios, and with that Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, they had ideas about a shared universe, but no concrete plans. All depended on how well the films did. Because of that, The Incredible Hulk was sort of a soft reboot, since it's not another origin, and in many ways could function as very different looking sequel. However, Iron Man was a huge hit and the MCU became a concrete thing, meaning the two films by definition are unconnected. And that's today's class in geek culture & history, kids!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 May 2014, 13:24
Skyfall was awesome.

I, like Gareth cannot wait for the MCU box sets.

Idea: Release Box sets chronologically tied to the Avengers movie they're centered around. So MCU box set one has Two Iron Man movies, Thor, Captain America (Fuck Yeah), etc capped off by the Avengers.

MCU 2 will have Thor The Dark World, Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Iron Man III, and possibly Hawk Eye/Black Widow/Dr. Strange if they get to those before Avengers 2

and so forth.

Uh, you know that's a thing that exists (http://www.amazon.com/Marvel-Cinematic-Universe-Assembled-Collectors/dp/B0083SBMGW), right?

I have it. It's great. Can't wait for Phase 2 (which should be Iron Man 3, Thor 2, Cap 2, Guardians, possibly Ant-Man? and Avengers 2).

I really wish I had roughly $200 to spare.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 11 May 2014, 06:47
It's so worth it.

The Avengers Marathon I did was amazing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 11 May 2014, 07:42
I got it when it first came out for about $140, so it was quite a bit easier to swallow then. So look early if you can spare something to that amount and are interested in the phase 2 version. My boyfriend joked that they would do an Ultron chasis and stick everything in there for it. XD If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll probably post an amazon link or something on here.

As for Ant-Man, I find it odd that phase 3 starts so quickly after phase 2. I'd have thought it'd be about another year, but you won't find me complaining!  I'm not a big fan of Wasp or any of the Ant-Men, but I like Paul Rudd and ultimately anything marvel will potentially make me happy (can't wait for that phase 8 Squirrel Girl movie!).

Also, ugh... Eric Bana Hulk was okay, but it felt like it took an hour before he Hulked out. It's a big reason why I feel the Ed Norton one was so much better.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2014, 13:27
I already have Iron Man 1/2 and the Avengers on Bluray. I don't really care that much about Thor, I care even less about the Incredible Hulk (especially since they cast a better Bruce Banner for the Avengers, no disrespect towards Edward Norton but Ruffalo is without a doubt a better Banner). So I'd basically be spending $200+ for Captain America and a cool case.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 14 May 2014, 18:16
Channing Tatum will play Gambit in an upcoming movie
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 15 May 2014, 06:29
Oh please be real

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ace6398df68d2a6cc4e9a454cabc927d/tumblr_n5g4nxNf8c1rxt4ejo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 May 2014, 06:34
Oh fuck yes. Please. Fuck yes Pleaaaaaaaaaaase. <3
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 15 May 2014, 09:01
By the hoary hosts of Hoggoth, yes please!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 15 May 2014, 11:57
Everything you all just said.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 May 2014, 11:02
Oh please be real

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ace6398df68d2a6cc4e9a454cabc927d/tumblr_n5g4nxNf8c1rxt4ejo1_1280.png)

I bet that's an editing troll, haven't seen any rumors/news of a Dr. Strange casting anywhere else. That said, I'm pretty sure Dr. Strange will be one of the movies in phase 3. So far we haven Ant-Man and Captain America 3 confirmed. I don't think Thor 3 is confirmed, but it's pretty likely. With that, we have two sequels, two new IPs and Avengers 3. Sounds reasonable. Other possibilities, if Thor 3 isn't a thing, would be Black Panther. That would make a lot of people happy!

EDIT: Quote from Kevin Feige regarding Dr. Strange (he was mentioned briefly in The Winter Soldier, when Sitwell talks about the algorithm that seeks out preemptive threats, if you missed it):
Quote
... The whole thing, what Sitwell’s saying is, this algorithm is going to predict if you’re going to become a problem for Hydra or not. So you don’t have to just be Tony Stark, actively plotting to save the world. You could be a kid whose SAT scores and whose essays have indicated that you’re going to be a problem one day. So is Stephen Strange the Sorcerer Supreme? Probably not at that point. Is he an unbelievably talented neurosurgeon who’s opinionated and kind of arrogant? Probably. That might put him on the list.
Source: http://www.craveonline.com/film/interviews/670837-kevin-feige-interview-captain-america-the-avengers-2-and-dr-strange

No talk about a film or any casting tho.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 17 May 2014, 20:06
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 May 2014, 22:37
A trailer for a trailer? Wtf.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 18 May 2014, 02:37
This is quite helpful.

(http://bitcast-r.v1.sjc1.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/marvel-timeline-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 May 2014, 16:22
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/dca7953b6ee734714f3eb08a30065468/tumblr_ms9e5fGtJA1rpbikxo2_500.png)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/cb8234862653f6e73c4a717237620494/tumblr_ms9e5fGtJA1rpbikxo1_500.png)
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/8fc336672ffd7071d6dbe46245f5310c/tumblr_ms9e5fGtJA1rpbikxo3_500.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 May 2014, 20:08
It helps if you cast BURT MACKLIN, FBI.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 20 May 2014, 07:35
I don't normally say this sort of thing... but in this case it really is easy. Make interesting, fun films and people will watch them. It doesn't matter if it's a big name character or someone made up for the movie. If it's good, people will watch. Sadly, to many in the entertainment industry want to play to percentages it seems. They keep re-using characters that are shown popular in other media or other movies, thinking that's the key. A well known character may draw people in opening week... But if the film itself is a dull, lifeless vehicle then it is going to get rightfully slammed. See criticisms over the latest Spider Man film.

The MCU films have worked so far because they have been interesting and fun in and of their own right. Not because the Avengers are in them. And Guardians will succeed if it turns out to be as fun as the previews are making it look. And this is why Agents of Shield has stumbled this first season... The pacing was bad to make it tie in with Winter Soldier, which lead to a lot of weak, dull episodes and gaps in the showing order. Fortunately it ended stronger. Characters seemed to gel together near the end of the season, and those interesting hooks that have been dangling in the first half set up got yanked on. But it could have just as easily fallen flat if the second half hadn't come together.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 20 May 2014, 08:55
I know this is entirely anecdotal, but I am pretty much die-hard DC, and in the choice between the DCCU and the MCU, I take the MCU all the way, because the Marvel films have just been better overall.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 20 May 2014, 15:18
(http://i.imgur.com/qfFhswn.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 20 May 2014, 19:19
I love that clip from the previews SO much.

Also re: Agents of SHIELD, I quite liked the finale. Coulson got in so many of his awesome quips and I loved it. Also I am really interested to see what happens based on:

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 May 2014, 19:33
I'm so hyped for the movie it's ridiculous
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 21 May 2014, 10:26
LOVED the AoS finale, esp. "let me show you", "we're a team" and "Guys! I found it!" and oh yeah "because you slept with her" :D

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 23 May 2014, 17:48
Uh-oh
Quote
Edgar Wright, the director of Shaun of the Dead and other wonderful Simon Pegg-Nick Frost films, is no longer directing Marvel's Ant-Man. Wright has been tied to the film since 2006, and it's due out on November 6, 2015 – the director change won't impact the launch date, Marvel says.

Wright and Marvel are splitting "due to differences in their vision of the film," a statement reads. Marvel says it will announce a new director shortly, but we find it hard to believe that anyone could adequately replace Wright's wild, manic, witty style. We'll pour one out for Wright's Ant-Man tonight.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 May 2014, 20:00
Odin damn it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2014, 02:53
I didn't think Wright was a fit for the MCU anyway and wasn't really arsed about this film anyway.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 24 May 2014, 06:03
Bad news, tho Gareth might be right. It always seemed like Wright's plans for the movie fell a little far away from the rest of the MCU. Wonder if this changes the script in major ways, like making Henry Pym the main character again. (The plans were, that I gathered, that it would feature both Hank Pym (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Pym) and Scott Lang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man_(Scott_Lang)), but Pym would be just an old scientist, and Scott be the one to actually utilize Pym's technology to become Ant-Man)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 07:06
Honestly I know very little about Ant-Man and even less about Wright's plans for the film, I just know Wright's a damn good filmmaker.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2014, 07:17
Honestly, without Wright I am now interested in this film again. I like Wright, but he is not Joss Whedon. They have some things in common but Whedon has almost always made things which were action with funny lines, not action comedies. And there is a difference. Wright's films, discounting Fistful Of Fingers which I haven't seen, have been Hot Fuzz, Shaun, Scott Pilgrim and The World's End. His TV work has ALL been comedy. I just don't see how this lines up. Ant Man, and the MCU, they are not Scott Pilgrim action, they are not comedic gunfights in a backwater village. This is real shit, and I just don't think Wright could've done it, or if he had done it, I don't think it would've fit in with the larger MCU tone at all.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 07:22
Wait, The Avengers isn't an action comedy?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 24 May 2014, 07:30
I wouldn't call it a comedy. The core of the films aren't funny, it's just that the characters themselves do or say things that are quite funny. Like...Batman: The Brave and the Bold I felt was meant to be a comedy Batman show. Justice League of America was not a comedy, but sometimes funny things happened. I can't really explain it, but I don't think the point of the MCU is to be funny, I think it's just adding a bit of lightheartedness to be different from the latest DCU stuff, which is pretty much all dark and depressing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 07:41
I guess I just don't put as much importance on what the point is. If something seems to run on laughs as much as action, I consider it an action comedy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 24 May 2014, 07:41
Wait, The Avengers isn't an action comedy?

Men in Black, Police Academy and the aforementioned Wright movies are action comedies. Films like The Avengers are just action films with comedic elements.  8-)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 07:45
Seems kind of semanticy, but ok.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2014, 07:48
I guess I just don't put as much importance on what the point is. If something seems to run on laughs as much as action, I consider it an action comedy.

Well that's probably one reason why you aren't a film maker - these differences matter in the creation. It's not semantics. The way you're looking at it, you may as well just break it down to 'is the film good, or not good?' regardless of genre.

This is why so many horror comedies fail, because they're too much horror or too much comedy. Shaun of the Dead is seen as being a great horror comedy movie because it does both well (although I think it goes too dark at the end). If there hadn't been a single joke in Avengers Assemble, it wouldn't have made the film a failure, it would just have meant that it took itself seriously. See also: The Dark Knight.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 08:46
It wouldn't have meant the film was a failure, but it would've also made it a very different movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2014, 09:00
Without jokes, Avengers would've been almost the exact same movie. And even if that weren't the case, it's not a comedy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 09:04
I can agree with the second sentence (you've convinced me that much), but not with the first one.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2014, 09:08
Well the second one is the more important point anyway, the point being that Edgar Wright makes comedies with sci-fi or action elements, not sci-fi/action with comedic elements. The MCU is not a comedy series.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2014, 09:15
Yeah, that's fair.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 24 May 2014, 09:53
Bad news, tho Gareth might be right. It always seemed like Wright's plans for the movie fell a little far away from the rest of the MCU. Wonder if this changes the script in major ways, like making Henry Pym the main character again. (The plans were, that I gathered, that it would feature both Hank Pym (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Pym) and Scott Lang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant-Man_(Scott_Lang)), but Pym would be just an old scientist, and Scott be the one to actually utilize Pym's technology to become Ant-Man)

Well they haven't changed the release date, which kind of makes me worried. What really sucks is that he was talking about an Ant-man movie before Iron Man even started. Honestly, Edgar Wright was my main draw to this movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 May 2014, 07:20
Would it be a bad thing if one of the MCU films was a comedy? Also, is the trailer for Guardians misleading? Because if not, I don't see how someone could avoid calling that a comedy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 May 2014, 08:11
The MCU films are not a single type or genre, outside 'superhero action'. The different films have a very different feel and take on the same source matter. Look at the shift in tone between Captain America 1 and 2. Guardians of the Galaxy has definitely been marketed with it's comedy elements front and center. Which is a considerably different tone than say, the first Thor or Hulk movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 25 May 2014, 08:56
I haven't seen Guardians so I can't comment on whether it's a comedy, but the way superhero films are marketed these days when they aren't sequels often seems to focus on the one-liners anyway.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 25 May 2014, 09:45
I'd have preferred to keep Wright and lose Ant-Man :o the Russos gave us both Arrested Development and The Winter Soldier, so I reckon Wright would've had a fair chance of making something reasonably good :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 26 May 2014, 08:22
According to the Latino Review (http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-the-inside-story-on-the-divorce-between-marvel-edgar-wright-over-ant-man)
Quote
About 3 months ago, Marvel had notes. The meat of the notes were about the core morality of the piece, must include franchise characters. etc., These notes came from the big four at Marvel. Joe Cornish and Edgar Wright did two drafts to try and answer the notes without compromising their vision.

6 weeks ago Marvel took the script off them and gave the writing assignment to two very low credit writers. One of the writers were from Marvel's in house writing team. Edgar stayed cool, agreed to stay on the project, and read the draft.

The script came in this week and was completely undone. Poorer, homogenized, and not Edgar's vision. Edgar met with Marvel on Friday to formally exit and the announcement went out directly after.

Edgar & Joe were upset by the sudden, out of nowhere lack of faith in them as filmmakers. Fiege had always batted for them but this felt like it came from the higher ups.

and from James Gunn's facebook (https://www.facebook.com/jgunn/posts/10152437335049570)
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"Sometimes you have friends in a relationship. You love each of them dearly as individuals and think they're amazing people. When they talk to you about their troubles, you do everything you can to support them, to keep them together, because if you love them both so much doesn't it make sense they should love each other? But little by little you realize, at heart, they aren't meant to be together – not because there's anything wrong with either of them, but they just don't have personalities that mesh in a comfortable way. They don't make each other happy. Although it's sad to see them split, when they do, you're surprisingly relieved, and excited to see where their lives take them next.

It's easy to try to make one party "right" and another party "wrong" when a breakup happens, but it often isn't that simple. Or perhaps it's even more simple than that – not everyone belongs in a relationship together. It doesn't mean they're not wonderful people.

And that's true of both Edgar Wright and Marvel. One of them isn't a person, but I think you get what I mean."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 May 2014, 15:21
Plz Gunn, get off facebook and maek Gardiens off teh galaksy nao plz





(plz)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 27 May 2014, 16:34
Matthew Murdock/Daredevil cast: Charlie Cox

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=118786
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 27 May 2014, 16:39
Hmm. I like Charlie Cox...but...well, I guess I'll have to just wait and see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 May 2014, 01:18
(http://media.tumblr.com/302fa8a410416be5cfc4ace5d42a19d5/tumblr_inline_n63dbozJYc1ryi9g2.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 30 May 2014, 18:05
Josh Brolin is gonna be Thanos
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--S9PRVya_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ocytqcj0u9upfsbrdc1f.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 May 2014, 10:46
I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 31 May 2014, 18:01
Maybe I can forgive him for Jonah Hex, Men in Black and Gangster Squad then :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 May 2014, 19:53
He was in No Country for Old Men. He was the third best performance at best, but still, fantastic movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 03 Jun 2014, 05:30
I honestly loved him in MiB
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Jun 2014, 05:35
Confession: I still haven't seen the third one
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: J on 04 Jun 2014, 02:37
it's surprisingly pretty good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Jun 2014, 05:34
I thought it was just about as dumb and bad as the first two, but then again I'm not really a huge fan of action comedies.  :lol:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Jun 2014, 05:38
J - I'll check it out eventually.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Jun 2014, 07:46
Director for the Doctor Strange movie announced (Is that also the first official announcment of the movie?):
Scott Derrickson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Derrickson)

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/135021-Scott-Derrickson-Will-Direct-Marvels-Doctor-Strange (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/135021-Scott-Derrickson-Will-Direct-Marvels-Doctor-Strange)

I don't really watch much horror movies, so I don't know if this guy's any good. Although, he did direct The Day The Earth Stood still, but I can't remember if that was any good. Nevertheless, it doesn't seem like Marvel is searching for visionary auteur directors, but rather competent directors capable at working together with a larger creative team towards a common vision. Aka, why it didn't work out with Wright.

We'll see!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2014, 16:17
Banaldick Humperdink and Tom Hardy are rumored for Dr. Strange (http://www.themarysue.com/cumberbatch-hardy-doctor-strange/). And I don't want either of them to play him
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2014, 16:19
Why not?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2014, 16:55
I'm okay with Tom Hardy, but I'm tired of seeing Bumbelpatch Hightop
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2014, 16:56
What? How can you be tired of Bumblebee Cummerbund? That dude's awesome!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 09 Jun 2014, 21:58
Eh, I think nerd culture is fast approaching a saturation point with him. I'm sure there's a Marvel character he'd be perfect to play but Dr Strange isn't it. I'm pulling for Pedro Pascal, dude needs more screen time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Jun 2014, 04:44
I'd much rather have Hardy over Cumberbund. Dr. Strange just doesn't fit the latter's style.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Jun 2014, 04:45
Confession, I don't know much about Dr. Strange. Also, I hate the term nerd culture.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Jun 2014, 06:45
Also, I hate the term nerd culture.

It's almost as bad as "EDM".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Jun 2014, 08:37
I also hate the term nerd culture, but fact is it's been trendy for about as long as Big Bang Theory has been on air.

I kinda miss being an outcast.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Jun 2014, 21:17
I don't care about nerdy stuff being trendy, I just don't like the idea of nerdiness being a "culture".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Jun 2014, 01:06
But it more or less is one. It just has disparate strands, like any culture.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 17 Jun 2014, 11:52
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 20 Jun 2014, 08:09
That's awesome.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 20 Jun 2014, 18:19
http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/news/nathan-fillion-nova-marvel-universe/106264#!1u8JP

HOLD ON TO YOUR BUTTS!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Jul 2014, 16:56
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2014/07/ultron-firstlook.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Jul 2014, 01:06
You know, I'm not as bothered about this film in particular, but I really hate the sheer amount of pre-release news and photos we get about movies these days.

If I was more of a fan of Avengers I wouldn't want to see Ultron. I wouldn't even want to see a trailer. I would want to drop in totally cold into the movie and just see what happens.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 17 Jul 2014, 07:13
I'm reading most, if not all of the current Avenger books so I guess I'm a pretty big fan. I have two feelings on the subject...

On the one hand, with all the news Marvel loves leaking about their books, the latest of which being that

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It's really not much to see just a picture of Ultron (though as you said, that's not quite as bothersome as what is done for other movies). Plus I'm a little more pumped now, since I think he looks pretty awesome.

On the other hand, I think back to The Dark Knight and how I knew nothing about the Two-Face persona actually showing up in the movie (figured they'd save it for the sequel) and how awesome it was to be proven wrong... it might have been leaked well ahead of time, I don't know, but it was news to me. Keeping stuff like that hidden as long as possible for the audience to enjoy in the moment is definitely something worth doing.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 17 Jul 2014, 07:22
While I do like to avoid spoilers as much as possible I have to admit that if something is "spoiled" for me then it doesn't actually change my level of enjoyment, it's just a different type of enjoyment. With these films, that I am very invested in as an intolerable comic geek, I don't mind reading about casting and production stuff but I try to keep away from anything that might tell me too much of the story. I like that sense of wonder and not knowing that comes with seeing new films.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 17 Jul 2014, 07:41
If it's an actual surprise, then yes, it's better to keep it hidden. Ultron being the enemy in Avengers 2 is not a surprise at all.  Movies to have to keep a hype train going to maintain popularity momentum these days. Especially something like this, where it's announced years before release. It's not like the old days where there were just a few stations on TV, one or two movie theaters in town and the like. People are bombarded daily by information and advertisement overload. Smaller movies might be able to get away with dropping some trailers and advertisements for a few months before release, but big name franchises want to stay on people's mind for a year or two before the release, so they have to release dribs and drabs of new info periodically to keep things going.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 17 Jul 2014, 07:52
As soon as I am interested in something, I avoid ALL information that isn't a release date. When I heard Bioshock: Infinite was coming out, I didn't watch a SINGLE bit of teaser footage and that meant when I dropped into the game totally cold even to the central concept of the game, it was an absolutely remarkable experience (even if I didn't care for the game much). I do the same with movies I want to see, generally speaking - or at least movies where the plot is relevant.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 17 Jul 2014, 08:04
Coolies... Little ambivalent about Paul Bettany's role because it puts an end to a nice fan- theory/dream but still :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jul 2014, 10:09
For Thor 3,  I want them to write the script they'd have written for Chris Hemsworth, but then change the pronouns anytime someone talks about Thor and cast Katie Sackhoff instead.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 17 Jul 2014, 11:56
I'd be all over that. She'd kick so much ass.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 17 Jul 2014, 19:40
We need Katie Sackoff to be Carol Danvers though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 21 Jul 2014, 02:07
Or they could show Sackhoff and Hemsworth duking it out in a cosmic sackoff for the right to be Thor.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Jul 2014, 07:39
Can we at least have Thor 3 with Lady Loki in it... Still played by Tom Hiddleston? Because I think that would be awesome. :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Jul 2014, 04:37
Seen on Tumblr:
DC: Wonder Woman is too difficult to find a movie audience for-
Marvel: YO YOU LIKE BLACK WIDOW? HERE SHE IS IN THE NEXT CAPTAIN AMERICA MOVIE WITH A TON OF SCREENTIME AND MAJOR ASSKICKING SKILLS
DC: We can't allow the lesbians in Batwoman to get married in the comic, sorry.
Marvel: HEY GUESS WHAT WE'RE GONNA FEATURE A GAY WEDDING ON THE COVER OF AN X-MEN ISSUE
DC: The new direction for storytelling needs to be dark, gritty, mature and cynical.
Marvel: DUDE CHECK IT OUT LOKI GOES SPEED DATING IS THAT NOT THE BEST SHIT EVER
DC: After years of rumors, the Superman/Batman movie is finally coming, but with a new actor and suit for Batman and MAYBE a cameo from Wonder Woman.
Marvel: PHASE 2 MOTHERFUCKERS EVERYONE IS IN EVERYONE'S MOVIE AND THERE AIN'T NO STOPPIN US NOW
DC: We can try to add maybe one or two 'people of color' to our lineup...maybe...
Marvel: NEW MS MARVEL THAT'S MUSLIM AMERICAN, BITCHES.
DC: We feel no problem with Batman's vengeful personality being like wet cardboard.
Marvel: NEW LATINA GHOST RIDER WHO SEEKS VENGEANCE WHILE TAKING HIS AWEET LIL BRO FOR ICE CREAM
DC: We can't mention any superhero titles in our movies, that's ridiculous.
Marvel: FUCK YEAH YOU WANT A RACOON VOICED BY BRADLEY COOPER WITH A GIANT GUN? YOU WANT VIN DIESEL PLAYING A TREE? AMY FUCKING POND PLAYING A SEXY BALD SPACE PIRATE? HERE YOU FUCKERS GO
DC: Our fanbase is mostly white males, I'm sure our focus is-
Marvel: NEW SHE HULK LINE WHERE SHE GOES TO COURT THEN SAVES NEW YORK
DC: Wait-
Marvel: NEW FEMALE THOR
DC: I didn't-
Marvel: NEW BLACK CAPTAIN AMERICA
Marvel: TAKE ALL THIS COOL SHIT MARVEL BE OUTIE
Marvel: PEACE
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 23 Jul 2014, 17:20
Give that man from DC a Beer to put out those flames.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Jul 2014, 17:58
Except the Human Torch will just swoop in and grab it before he can pour it on himself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 24 Jul 2014, 00:53
The atrocities committed by DC's New 52 have turned me off comic books ever since, honestly. So... kinda fuck those guys.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Jul 2014, 18:49
What'd they do?

Also I never really got into comic books because there's just too much to catch up on, although I've read some self-contained universes that I liked a lot (Ex Machina and Preacher come to mind, not to mention Sin City and Watchmen if you count those).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 24 Jul 2014, 21:58
Reviews are coming in now, and Guardians of the Galaxy currently holds an impressive rating of 100% approved and average 8.2/10 on RottenTomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/guardians_of_the_galaxy/), with 18 reviews. Over at Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/movie/guardians-of-the-galaxy), the score is 77/100, with 11 positive and 1 mixed review.

(For reference, Winter Soldier and Avengers hold a Metacritic score of 70/100 and 69/100, respectively)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 25 Jul 2014, 00:58
What'd they do?

Also I never really got into comic books because there's just too much to catch up on, although I've read some self-contained universes that I liked a lot (Ex Machina and Preacher come to mind, not to mention Sin City and Watchmen if you count those).

I'll copy and paste myself from another forum.

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Okay, I'll try to condense my rant.

My issue was Ted Kord. Blue Beetle and Booster Gold were my favourite comic book team up, I loved them both for their adorable crapness at basically everything but that both had hearts of gold (pun not intended) deep down. They were fun and entertaining and like the Edge and Christian of DC.

Then Ted got shot in the face. Which I hated because I loved the character and Maxwell Lord turning heel kinda shat all over a number of comic series that I liked (JLI, Super Buddies). But unlike basically every comic book character ever, Ted pretty much stayed dead. His death meant something. His death triggered one of DC's events, which have become more common since but weren't so much back then. He mattered, and while I missed his character, at least his death was significant.

And then there was the new 52, he was retconned to have never f***ing existed and nothing ever f***ing mattered, basically telling me that as a fan, I was an absolute dumbass for ever caring about a character or a storyline that didn't amount to BATMAN WINS LOL.

f*** DC, man.

You're right though, having the new 52 as an alt universe would've been fine. Man the original 52 was good, wasn't it? Remember that? When DC made good comics?

Me f***ing neither.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Jul 2014, 04:12
You're on another forum? Betrayal! :roll: (Also a forum that requires asterisks? Boo)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 25 Jul 2014, 06:01
Son, long before you were even registered on here I was on about 15 forums  :mrgreen:

Now I have here, F.A.N. and some Facebook groups.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Jul 2014, 08:14
F.A.N.?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 25 Jul 2014, 14:59
Most of here are members of other Fora
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Jul 2014, 15:59
I don't think I could do that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 25 Jul 2014, 20:04
(http://offtopictim.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/offtopic.gif)

(I'm also member on a gaming forum, at least one band forum and another webcomic forum. Does that make me a player?)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 26 Jul 2014, 04:46
I don't think I could do that.

Why? As much as I love this place, it doesn't have everything and there are more people on the internet than you guys. And some of them...*gasp*...are really nice. Also not all of the things I want to talk about will be a part of this place because it's simply not the right community.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 26 Jul 2014, 11:26
Oh god, that extended trailer...! *books tickets*
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Jul 2014, 18:04
My friends I come to you with a gift...

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 Jul 2014, 19:13
Spare me the Civil War/World War Hulk films plz

Other than that, that slate might not be so far off the truth!

EDIT: Guardians of the Galaxy 2 slated for 2017 :D (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/136451-Guardians-of-The-Galaxy-2-Already-Announced-For-July-2017)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Jul 2014, 19:54
Why?
I dunno. I'm not criticizing anyone else for doing so, and I'm on Facebook and sometimes Twitter. I just can't see myself going to another forum. Why would I need to?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 27 Jul 2014, 05:11
F.A.N.?

Freakin' Awesome Network, a name so embarrassing I hate saying it. Formerly the official Wrestlecrap Forum, became the most popular wrestling forum on the internet, and then cut ties with the 'Crap for various reasons; started its own media website, the Freakin' Awesome Network, to attach to the forum, which isn't that great. But the forum is still wonderful.

Why?
I dunno. I'm not criticizing anyone else for doing so, and I'm on Facebook and sometimes Twitter. I just can't see myself going to another forum. Why would I need to?

Well, in my case it's a wrestling forum, because I could talk about wrestling all day, and my attempt to start a wrestling thread on here flopped anyway. Besides which F.A.N. is a lot different to this forum, it has a lot of its own internal memes (and Hodgy hates memes so I feel bad every time I post one here), a different sense of humour (largely based around funny photos of wrestlers then being used for photoshop) - it just has a lot of what this forum doesn't have.

This forum is more like my friends, family, support group, therapists, listeners.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 18:42
So who else is psyched for Guardians of the Galaxy?  I don't think I'm going to see it on the release day this Friday, because crowds, but I won't be waiting very long to go see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 30 Jul 2014, 19:08
I'm pretty psyched, not gonna see it till Sunday though
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 30 Jul 2014, 19:26
I'm going to see it tomorrow night! Woooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 21:00
I'll probably see it Sunday too.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Jul 2014, 21:40
I'm gonna see where I am financially. I was going with RedWidow and that fell through, and my friends are all down south (bout 45 minute drive) which I just can't justify right now cost wise. I'm going to try and go Saturday at matinee prices though.

Also if any one wants to see that dead pool test footage that got allegedly leaked, that is being clamped down hard on, I may or may not have a source. PM me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 31 Jul 2014, 04:50
Also if any one wants to see that dead pool test footage that got allegedly leaked, that is being clamped down hard on, I may or may not have a source. PM me.

Isn't that being constantly reuploaded to youtube? If not, pm me :D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Jul 2014, 07:08
It is, but it's being taken down just as much.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 31 Jul 2014, 07:18

Whaaaaat, Jeremy didn't give it Awesometacular!?!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: hedgie on 31 Jul 2014, 10:52
It is, but it's being taken down just as much.

You can't stop the signal, Mal.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Jul 2014, 11:40
Which is why I'm sending it out to whoever wants it el hog of hedges
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: hedgie on 31 Jul 2014, 17:22
Well-done, mate.

As well as DC is concerned, I figure fuck them ever after they cancelled Hellblazer.  That was the *only* comic I bought on a monthly basis, and they seem posed to kill the whole Vertigo line.  If I didn't have bad OCD, I'd say that they could suck my arse.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 31 Jul 2014, 18:17
Which is why I'm sending it out to whoever wants it el hog of hedges
I messaged you and you didn't reply! :psyduck:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 31 Jul 2014, 19:04
Bee tee dubs, the movie was freaking awesome. Groot is now my favorite character in the whole franchise because Groot is the best.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 Jul 2014, 19:32
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Jul 2014, 21:24
Hmmm I might even go tomorrow... we'll see if I get out of my bed in time for a matinee.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Aug 2014, 15:28
Waiting for my IMAX showing right now, I love going solo to movies at times, no planning or coordination, and I only have to find a single awesome seat, which I have.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 Aug 2014, 16:47
Just came back from it. It was awesome. And no, that's not a metaphor.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Aug 2014, 19:18
So Guardians of the Galaxy was fucking awesome, and I managed to snag a promotional poster from a stack that was being handed out. There were a couple face palm worthy scenes, and the movie NEEDED more Rocket (I will however be saying that just about EVERYTHING could use more Rocket Raccoon for the foreseeable future) and the post credits scene... I did not see that coming.

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In other news, meet Oreo, Rocket's model: http://www.guardthegalaxy.com/2013/09/meet-oreo-rocket-raccoons-model-in.html
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0KS5Aqk6APg/UkD4a1PRIxI/AAAAAAAACYA/zPIDStOAz8M/s1600/7944082144_d81a1ba407_o.jpg)
aka the cutest thing ever


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Sadly this is shopped, but still funny.

For srs comic talk, let's talk about how filthy rich Steve Rogers is! *warning: wall of text*

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Aug 2014, 08:03
I just read that they aren't planning to have a One-Shot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_One-Shots) with the home media release of The Winter Soldier, and I think that's quite a pitty.. The previous ones have been great, and some have even delved deeper into the Marvel mythos, with the last one having some interesting reveals about the Mandarin and the Ten Rings (from Iron Man 3).

If we're to follow the pattern of the released One-Shots, the one with The Winter Soldier would have been about something from the Thor films (the One-Shots so far have consistently been about the solo movie previous to the one it is released with).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 03 Aug 2014, 14:41
Watched Guardians last night. SO GODDAMN CHEESY. Still enjoyed it though  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 03 Aug 2014, 14:47
But it was good cheese! Like Buck Rogers or Big Trouble in Little China cheese!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 Aug 2014, 16:07
Guardians was so good. Just....so good. My only gripe is that I would have liked to see more of Karen Gillian

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Aug 2014, 16:27
"I am Groot" is the new "Hodor".  :-D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 03 Aug 2014, 17:04
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I don't want to add more spoilers yet, but I think all but one of my favorite scenes involved Groot.

Well, one more spoiler...

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 03 Aug 2014, 17:32
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2014, 18:59
Wait, that was KAREN GILLIAN? Also, Karen Gillian is younger than me? I did not know that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 Aug 2014, 19:06
Yeah man, she showed up to a Comicon panel last year (I think) and took off her wig to announce she would be in the movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2014, 19:09
Yeah, well...ok then. She blue herself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Aug 2014, 17:11
I thought up some grips, but these are nitpicky at best.

-I wish that Drax was a lighter green. I felt that his being a darker green it was harder to see his tattoos, and in the comics he and Gamora are close to the same color
-Once again, I wish we saw more of Nebula. She was being touted as being as much a badass as Gamora, but we didn't really get to see her in action
-While I wished to see the Nova Corp more like the comics, I did enjoy the planetary defender thing they had going in the movie, but it's strange that Nova Prime is more of a president than an all powerful being
-It's weird to me that they used Ronan since he's more of a bad guy/good guy than a straight up bad guy. Though it may have been a rub at Fox so they couldn't use him in their Fantastic Four movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2014, 17:15
I honestly didn't know Drax wasgreen...or tattooed for that matter, I just thought he was really fucking veiny.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 05 Aug 2014, 15:57
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Guardians was terrific. Don't think I've heard the cinema laugh like that even at a 'proper' comedy. Chris Pratt...he deserves an award. I don't think I've even got any major gripes with the film - cinematography was fantastic, cast was great, story fairly easy but not so deterministic that it turned into an epic.

Drax is blue, isn't he?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 05 Aug 2014, 16:20
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130301001032/marveldatabase/images/6/67/Arthur_Douglas_%28Earth-616%29_from_Guardians_of_the_Galaxy_Vol_3_1_cover.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 05 Aug 2014, 20:15
Pic is broken.

Drax has not so much tattoos in the movie, it looks more like scarification. Awesome scarification.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 06 Aug 2014, 01:31
Dave Batista - the best thing about Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014, arguably the worst thing about WWE in 2014.

Having not seen the film I can't comment on the former, but I certainly don't agree with the latter  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Aug 2014, 01:34
Well the former is 100% false because Dave Batista is definitely not Rocket Racoon.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 06 Aug 2014, 04:56
Saw it yesterday, good, not as great as I had hoped from the critical reactions, but still enjoyed it a lot! Some of the action scenes got a little "flashy" at points, with there being a little too much weird lightning and sharp sounds for my taste. I think the movie was at its best when the Guardians were just hanging out. IMO the fight cinematography & choreography was a lot better in The Winter Soldier. The tone was pretty all over the place, and a little hard to follow at times, but it was managed ok for the most part, imo!

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Aug 2014, 07:27
Rocket was definitely the best character in Guardians. Most of the others had some great lines and scenes... Sadly I felt Gamora was the weakest character on the team, and Nebula was even worse. I wish they would do more with Collector though. Benecio Del Toro is an inspired choice for him, but all he seems to do in the movies so far is show up, look like he's smelling something foul and spout some exposition.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 06 Aug 2014, 08:50
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 06 Aug 2014, 10:06
I enjoyed Guardians Of The Galaxy so much and to explain what I love would basically just be repeating chunks of the film and dialogue.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Aug 2014, 10:39
I liked Guardians of the Galaxy so much I will likely be seeing it again this weekend.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 06 Aug 2014, 14:21
Sadly I felt Gamora was the weakest character on the team, and Nebula was even worse.

I agree. I really feel like they didn't do as much as they could/should have with Nebula. I like Karen Gillian, but I feel like she just wan't given an opportunity to really do much with her character. She was kind of flat.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2014, 14:36
I'd say that Rocket and Groot together were the best part of the movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Aug 2014, 16:54
Pic is broken.

Drax has not so much tattoos in the movie, it looks more like scarification. Awesome scarification.

Here's a picture with better lighting
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130721105932/marvelcinematicuniverse/images/b/b8/Drax_the_Destroyer.png)

In the poster you can see them better
(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-IMAX-poster-700x1024.jpg)

And another
(http://www.moviedeskback.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/guardians-of-the-galaxy-posters.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 06 Aug 2014, 17:27
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Captain America Beats Up Batman, WB Changes Dawn of Justice Release Date (http://www.themarysue.com/captain-america-beats-up-batman-wb-changes-dawn-of-justice-release-date/)
WB flinched. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is no longer sharing a release date with Captain America 3. Anyone surprised?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Aug 2014, 11:26
I'm shocked a Warner Brothers Exec let that happen in the first place.
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Post by: Orkboy on 07 Aug 2014, 20:55
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Aug 2014, 07:03
...god damn it, I'm actually disappointed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Aug 2014, 19:58
Oh, so earlier today I ordered the CD of the soundtrack on Amazon. I rarely buy music, so this was notable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Aug 2014, 20:37
I went out and bought it the day before we went and saw it I was so hyped.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: hedgie on 10 Aug 2014, 03:48
I thought up some grips, but these are nitpicky at best.

-I wish that Drax was a lighter green. I felt that his being a darker green it was harder to see his tattoos, and in the comics he and Gamora are close to the same color

So, it's not easy being green?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Aug 2014, 08:52
It is however, apparently, easy being cheesy! :D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Aug 2014, 12:49
http://imgur.com/gallery/1WBoE
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Aug 2014, 20:27
I'm still bummed out that the dog wasn't Laika.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lupercal on 11 Aug 2014, 04:27
My eyes must be broken, but Drax looks absolutely blue in those promos and throughout the film. Or am I missing something with all this green talk?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Aug 2014, 07:32
Nah, he looked blue-grey to me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Aug 2014, 09:44
Drax looked pretty gray to me. There's sort of a greenish undertone, I suppose. He's not nearly as green as Gamora, and not as blue as Ronan or Yondu.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 11 Aug 2014, 14:35
I'm still bummed out that the dog wasn't Laika.

Cosmo is better
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Aug 2014, 18:34
Yeah, but Laika is real so the thought that even a fictionalized version of her didn't die painfully in a few hours but instead was rescued and was kept in comfort for sixty years...I don't know, I liked that thought.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: J on 11 Aug 2014, 20:11
me too.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Aug 2014, 19:11
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 13 Aug 2014, 21:22
Awwww
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Sep 2014, 07:10

Poem of the Day: What I Learned From the Incredible Hulk

BY AIMEE NEZHUKUMATATHIL
When it comes to clothes, make
an allowance for the unexpected.
Be sure the spare in the trunk
of your station wagon with wood paneling
 
isn't in need of repair. A simple jean jacket
says Hey, if you aren't trying to smuggle
rare Incan coins through this peaceful
little town and kidnap the local orphan,
 
I can be one heck of a mellow kinda guy.
But no matter how angry a man gets, a smile
and a soft stroke on his bicep can work
wonders. I learned that male chests
 
also have nipples, warm and established—
green doesn't always mean envy.
It's the meadows full of clover
and chicory the Hulk seeks for rest, a return
 
to normal. And sometimes, a woman
gets to go with him, her tiny hands
correcting his rumpled hair, the cuts
in his hand. Green is the space between
 
water and sun, cover for a quiet man,
each rib shuttling drops of liquid light.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Sep 2014, 07:28
I was just thinking about GotG and how it is being preached as a mega hit and the highest domestic grossing movie of the year, yet it has "only" made $555M worldwide. Then I checked out IMDB and found out it wasn't even released in a large chunk of countries until the end of August, and there's still a lot of countries where it isn't even out yet. Oh, and those countries include Japan, Italy and China. So yea, still a lot to go!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 Sep 2014, 07:58
So it's "only" made more than half a billion dollars, so far. While still in theaters, so not counting DVD sales. Yeah, I'm sure the Disney execs are tearing themselves up over this...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Sep 2014, 15:08
I'm happy that it beat Transformers 4

Oh no
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a9072c43903707db3e9d427e02516ac4/tumblr_nb2v2pqcT21qd39tro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 Sep 2014, 18:58
Ah, but that's the brilliant thing by making movies about the Avengers instead of say, the Fantastic Four. The roster always changes. What's that, people don't want to play Iron Man or Captain America anymore? No problem, we've got dozens more waiting in the wings. In fact they seem to be planning on that anyway.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Sep 2014, 19:05
Which is wonderful, because it can delay the reboot cycle for quite some time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Sep 2014, 11:12
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-signs-dc-comics-has-no-clue-how-to-make-superhero-movies/
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 05 Sep 2014, 16:34
From that article/list
Quote
Yup, Snyder noticed that Americans love the idealized, heroic Superman, and his response is to give us the exact opposite thing. He actually said that Superman is not supposed to be fun
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 05 Sep 2014, 18:34
Well, I don't think Superman is supposed to to be fun. Optimistic and uplifting yes, but not comedic (Maybe Clark Kent tho, to some degree).

IMO, the problems of Man of Steel were not with Superman 
(click to show/hide)
, but with.. pretty much everything else.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 Sep 2014, 06:16
They've released an official synopsis of Avengers: Age of Ultron now, mostly with stuff we knew, but also confirming that Tony Stark isn't the original creator of Ultron.
Quote
When Tony Stark tries to jump-start a dormant peacekeeping program..
I'm guessing this means Hank Pym is the original creator after all, meaning he'll probably mentioned or referenced somehow. I'd imagine Marvel would use this opportunity to promote their next film, Ant-Man.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 18 Sep 2014, 20:14
People.  We have some good news (http://m.au.ign.com/articles/2014/09/18/deadpool-movie-officially-set-for-2016-release)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 19 Sep 2014, 00:10
Isn't Deadpool the Billie Carter of the Marvel Universe??
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 19 Sep 2014, 00:16
The Deadpool test footage is officially the most awesome thing ever.  And the most Deadpoolicious.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 15 Oct 2014, 16:36
So rumor has it Captain America 3 is going to be marvel civil war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSGJ_UWPcJY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSGJ_UWPcJY)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 15 Oct 2014, 16:47
I just hope they don't make a Planet Hulk movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Oct 2014, 00:03
I just hope they don't make a Planet Hulk movie.

Why? That would be AMAZING.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 Oct 2014, 01:18
Let's be realistic, a live action Planet Hulk movie would be horrible.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Oct 2014, 01:24
Why so? Even the COMIC of Civil War sucked and people are still excited about that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 Oct 2014, 02:08
Just imagine John Carter with no human characters, mostly sett in a dungeon and an arena. I just can't imagine a good movie out of that. Also, would be hell'a expensive.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Oct 2014, 02:47
I think quite the opposite. Spend enough money on it and it WOULD be amazing. Bring new dimensions to the Hulk character, the vast battles, the wars, you could also work World War Hulk into the first act.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: J on 16 Oct 2014, 03:09
having the hulk just fuck up a bunch of alien gladiators for 90 minutes? with the right director, that could certainly work.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 16 Oct 2014, 04:59
My question is... is this really Civil War they're teasing... or Captain America vs Iron Man? I feel like they'd have to bring back a good portion of the Avengers cast to do Civil War and that would be hella expensive. It may as well be Avengers 3 if that were the case.

Edit: Added some words that actually connect my thoughts.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Oct 2014, 05:43
My question is... is this really Civil War they're teasing... or Captain America vs Iron Man? I feel like they'd have to bring back a good portion of the Avengers cast to do Civil War would be hella expensive. It may as well be Avengers 3 if that were the case.

They'd also have to rewrite it so that the storyline didn't suck a big fat bag of bleeding dicks.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 16 Oct 2014, 07:05
I'd have to reread it to remember whether the full thing really sucked for me. The ending was definitely awful and that event is what started my dislike for Tony Stark in the comics. Which is a shame, since the first Iron Man movie is what got me interested in reading New Avengers. Wonder if this movie will get me hating Tony Stark in the MCU as well.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Oct 2014, 07:14
There were a lot of ridiculous logic leaps in it, and the comic seemed to make no effort to really make it a fair discussion even though both sides had legitimate points. Also why the fuck would Spiderman reveal his identity?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 16 Oct 2014, 14:26
having the hulk just fuck up a bunch of alien gladiators for 90 minutes? with the right director, that could certainly work.


Michael Bey?


*Ducks*
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: snarkyone on 16 Oct 2014, 16:40
I think there are forum rules against that kind of behavior Kugai.   Now we all have to go shower.

:-P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 16 Oct 2014, 16:53
snarkyone uses snark...
It's Super Effective!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 16 Oct 2014, 17:03
I always thought they should just leave Civil War, WW Hulk and Planet Hulk out of the movies altogether. They could obviously pull out some elements, like the already established moral differences between Cap' and Stark (Aka the Bruce/Clark dynamic) or the "Hulk is angry and fights everyone", but no need to make those things into entire movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: snarkyone on 16 Oct 2014, 17:48
snarkyone uses snark...
It's Super Effective!

 :-o
Me without my mouth...  :'(
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 16 Oct 2014, 19:18
Boojum.  :-D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Oct 2014, 20:22
The weird thing is Michael Bay has shown himself capable of making a good movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1980209/). He just often chooses not to.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 17 Oct 2014, 11:43
Probably too much like hard work.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 22 Oct 2014, 16:50
Holy Smokes!
Avenger 2 trailer!!!!!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By4e12DxrjXQZ3FUaE0yVFlTSlU/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By4e12DxrjXQZ3FUaE0yVFlTSlU/view)

again just in case it doesnt play
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28g8s5_the-avengers-age-of-ultron_shortfilms (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28g8s5_the-avengers-age-of-ultron_shortfilms)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Oct 2014, 18:44

The official release, so no worries about it being taken down.

CAN'T WAIT
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 22 Oct 2014, 19:11
 Official response from Marvel about the leak:

 (http://i.imgur.com/bn8ZU2L.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Oct 2014, 19:23
Hydra did something good? :roll:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Oct 2014, 20:28
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/6bb98f10db6128eeb5c49dacdb6453e2/tumblr_ndvb1aASga1qzmkxwo1_500.gif)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/763344151e2f05f13fdbd63dc76638f8/tumblr_ndvb1aASga1qzmkxwo2_500.gif)

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/849ada49d664bf5fbf1d5bd4e9c06ccd/tumblr_ndvb1aASga1qzmkxwo3_500.gif)

But will this Quicksilver be as good as Day's of Future Past Quicksilver?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: RedWolf4 on 22 Oct 2014, 22:54
Good goddamn, but that looks KICK. ASS.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 22 Oct 2014, 23:11
I love their response to it, even if it was an intentional leak. It leaked? Oh well, HAVE THE HD VERSION!

The official youtube already has over 2.6 million views. The hype on this thing is going to be insane by April and I'll be surprised if it doesn't do $205m+ on opening weekend. Between this and Star Wars Disney is going to make ALL the money next year.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Oct 2014, 05:43
Honestly, what other response could they make? Sure it may have messed up their timing slightly. Assuming they didn't engineer the 'leak' of the first grainy footage. But once the genie is out of the bottle they couldn't put it back. To run around doing take down orders every time it popped up again on Youtube or whatever would have just been a jerk move. So releasing the HD version ahead of schedule is just 'Here you go. Have fun folks'. And suddenly good will instead of jerkiness.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Oct 2014, 06:28
The leak is even better press honestly.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 23 Oct 2014, 14:21
YAAAAYYYY!!!!

So psyched :D I have a feeling Ultron will annoy me at least when it comes to the visuals, and perhaps the character as well, but honestly these movies are all about the heroes anyway. Not a big fan of ATJ or Elizabeth Olsen, so I hope they're either much better than they usually are or that they aren't too prominent.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Oct 2014, 15:11
But will this Quicksilver be as good as Day's of Future Past Quicksilver?
You might say he'll kick ass. (Not sure if RedWolf was making the same joke or just talking about the trailer in general)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Oct 2014, 15:43
#NOSTRINGS

On a sidenote, this early leak of the trailer could actually be a pretty bad thing for Agents of SHIELD. The trailer was planned to premiere during/after AoS next week, and as the show hasn't been preforming as good as hoped (based on last years ratings and the fact that many consider season 2 an improvement so far), this was a big potential ratings boost. But alas..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Oct 2014, 16:26
Doesn't it seem incredibly naive to assume people in this day and age will jump into a show midseason that they weren't already watching just to watch a commercial that they could watch on Youtube in HD five minutes later anyway?

In other words...the leak pushed it ahead a few days, but it didn't do any damage in the sense that it wouldn't have really helped anyway.

Edit: Rewatched Days of Future Past tonight, and something I didn't really notice the first time.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Oct 2014, 19:04
Well, I'm not sure.. Considering it's the first footage for what is possibly the most hyped movie in years, I think a lot of people would have tuned in for that. Also, headlines like "AVENGERS 2 TRAILER PREMIERING WITH THIS WEEK'S EPISODE OF AOS" could grab some attention and remind people of the show.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Oct 2014, 19:10
Again...they could just watch it on Youtube almost immediately, and why would you watch a show you're not caught up on?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 24 Oct 2014, 03:01
Because a lot of people are stupid?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Oct 2014, 20:20
Oh. Right. That.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 26 Oct 2014, 06:21
Problem solved (http://www.themarysue.com/new-ultron-footage/l)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 26 Oct 2014, 18:34
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/5b98c77f755e980d52d051aac5f4f15f/tumblr_ndwlu8Fw6c1sqx0u8o2_500.gif)
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/b0a2a0a12481156aeaa4920434244606/tumblr_ndwlu8Fw6c1sqx0u8o1_500.gif)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/7647e60e8037bac53d3e92794b8c9eb4/tumblr_ndwlu8Fw6c1sqx0u8o3_500.gif)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Oct 2014, 20:19
Damn, Ultron...let it go.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Oct 2014, 21:22
I see what you did there. What you did there... I see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 27 Oct 2014, 18:55
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/696a852b5dbfcac27c6583cec9c00ce1/tumblr_ne4ht0NDED1qhui6vo1_1280.png)
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/b95295c51e68a6a4185620b96a9815d7/tumblr_ne4ht0NDED1qhui6vo2_250.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 27 Oct 2014, 19:39
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/696a852b5dbfcac27c6583cec9c00ce1/tumblr_ne4ht0NDED1qhui6vo1_1280.png)
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/b95295c51e68a6a4185620b96a9815d7/tumblr_ne4ht0NDED1qhui6vo2_250.png)

DON'T
TEASE
US
LIKE
THAT.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 27 Oct 2014, 20:19
Reports have indicated that Benedict Cumberbatch is in final talks to star as Marvel's Sorcerer Supreme. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/138239-Marvel-Casting-Benedict-Cumberbatch-as-Dr-Strange?utm_source=latest&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Oct 2014, 20:33
If this is true, they have to cast Martin Freeman as Wong.

No, I don't care it means casting a white actor for a Chinese character. It must happen.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2014, 03:26
I have literally never watched Benedict Cumonmytits in anything and I'm already sick of him just because of the sheer rabidity of his fanbase.

But I'm reactionary like that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 28 Oct 2014, 03:44
I have to agree with the thumbs-down for this idea. Benedict is a great actor and I've loved him in all his roles (his heroism for trying to hold up the badly-written joke of Star Trek - Into Darkness all on his own made him worthy of a medal, IMHO). However, he simply isn't suited for this role. Steven Strange is in his 50s and is an experienced man. I'm sure he could pull it off but it would still seem a mis-cast in physical terms.

My worry? Disney are looking for stars to carry the property along into the next phase. Unnecessary, IMO, as the strength of the MCU has always been in its story-telling, not its big names.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2014, 03:48
Exactly. The Marvel movies haven't worked because of star power. They have created stars through it, like Chris Evans, and re-ignited old stars like Robert Downey Jnr. or Mark Ruffalo.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 28 Oct 2014, 03:54
This is one I'm just going to have to wait and see. I actually think Strange is one of the roles where it's more natural to cast a well established actor, since he's sort of a leader figure, and it seems that they want to move him to the front of the spotlight (Possibly to usurp Iron Man :roll:).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 28 Oct 2014, 08:08
I was hoping they were going to go for a more bold casting choice than the whitest guy that ever lived. I knew it wouldn't have ever happened but I would have loved to see Oded Fehr (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004912/) play the Sorcerer Supreme.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Oct 2014, 09:37
He would have been amazing, I mean just look at him
(http://aggressivecomix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/eye-candy-oded-fehr-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 28 Oct 2014, 10:55
I think Fehr would have been perfect, but I am not disappointed in their decision. Especially since I saw names of actors that I feel are kind of blegh. I think Cumberbatch is a good actor, I think he'll be able to pull it off.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 28 Oct 2014, 12:29
I would totally have been ok with that, looks wise!

On a different not, Chadwick Boseman to Star in Marvel's ‘Black Panther’ (http://www.imdb.com/news/ni57933219/)

Now, this is great news! I think Black Panther could be one of the coolest IPs in the MCU, and I'm totally ok with this casting!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 28 Oct 2014, 13:42
(http://i.imgur.com/6TD90mp.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2014, 14:24
Wait, I know this'll sound counter-intuitive but...I thought Captain Marvel was a DC character.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 28 Oct 2014, 14:51
Both Marvel and DC have Captain Marvels. Which is why DC's Captain Marvel series was actually called Shazam! And last I checked DC's Captain Marvel is now actually going by Shazam in the New 52.... probably because that's what people who didn't know better probably called him, anyway.

Marvel's Captain Marvel used to go by Ms. Marvel aka Carol Danvers. She got her powers through some crazy accident involving the original Captain Marvel, Mar-Vell, who I barely know anything about besides him being a Kree that actually allies with Earth.

What to take away from this is HOLY SHIT A CAROL MOVIE!!!!! I really like her last comic run and her current series is pretty awesome too, especially since she's hanging out with the Guardians on and off.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2014, 14:55
Wait, Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel are the SAME PERSON? Cool.

And honestly the only DC Captain Marvel I know offhand is the one episode of JLU he was in. Great episode.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 15:06
Wait, Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel are the SAME PERSON? Cool.

And honestly the only DC Captain Marvel I know offhand is the one episode of JLU he was in. Great episode.

Not anymore. Currently Ms. Marvel is a teen-aged girl.  Carol is CAPTAIN Marvel. So the current bearers of those names are not the same person. But Carol has had many hero names, with Ms. Marvel and Captain Marvel being two of them.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2014, 15:14
Ahh. Either way, I didn't know Captain Marvel was a woman. That's pretty cool. I wonder why no Black Widow movie though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2014, 15:35
Both Marvel and DC have Captain Marvels. Which is why DC's Captain Marvel series was actually called Shazam! And last I checked DC's Captain Marvel is now actually going by Shazam in the New 52.... probably because that's what people who didn't know better probably called him, anyway.

Don't. Even. Get me. Started.

I have a CAPTAIN SHITTING MARVEL t-shirt, and the number of people who go 'hey, The Flash!' or worse yet 'hey, Big Bang Theory!' makes me want to pull out their eyes and eat them.

The other week I stayed at one of my best friends' houses and his step dad and I had a conversation that went something like this:
'Hey, a Shazam shirt.'
'Oh thank fuck you're the first person to correctly identify this in three years.'
'Of course really his name is Captain Marvel'
'YES! THANK YOU!'

I nearly blew him.

But anyway... that's a rant for another thread...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 28 Oct 2014, 16:13
I am highly disappoint with the actor selection for Dr. Strange... he's one of my favorite comic book characters...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2014, 16:14
What's wrong with Bennyhill Cummerbund?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 28 Oct 2014, 16:31
I was hoping for Pedro Pascal to be honest.  :-P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 28 Oct 2014, 18:13
Ahh. Either way, I didn't know Captain Marvel was a woman. That's pretty cool. I wonder why no Black Widow movie though.

Because meh. While I like her as a sidekick in the Marvel movies, I don't think it's really worth giving her her own movie. Especially since she seems to be branching out (started in Iron Man, was in Avengers, was in Capt. America). But Captain Marvel...heck yeah. She does not get enough love and she definitely deserves it. She's a badass. (Not saying Black Widow isn't, just that CM is even more so.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 28 Oct 2014, 18:51
I think Black Widow & Hawkeye are more comparable to Director Fury, Agent Coulson and Agent Hill, being more glorified SHIELD operatives than superheroes. I think they serve well as recurring side characters.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Oct 2014, 19:26
For my thought at least is... What could a Black Widow (or Hawkeye for that matter) movie do that couldn't be done bigger and better with other characters? For all their gadgets, they are really just highly trained agents. They can bring skills that are lacking with the likes of other Avengers. Or they could work well on a regular series, like Agents of Shield having Mockingbird right now. They can even do a comic book, because it's one of dozens of products the company would put out every month. But a feature length movie that is going to take over a year and millions of dollars to produce, with so many other, bigger characters to play with? I just don't see it happening. Black Panther I think is the bottom rung of the power curve to be possible to get his own movie. He's also usually depicted as a highly trained person with high tech gear, but his being the king of Wakanda and all that brings with it.

Now, I could see Black Widow and Hawkeye getting something like the Netflix series that are in production, or maybe a spin off TV mini series like Agent Carter. But a full AAA movie release I don't see happening.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Oct 2014, 19:32
Both Marvel and DC have Captain Marvels. Which is why DC's Captain Marvel series was actually called Shazam! And last I checked DC's Captain Marvel is now actually going by Shazam in the New 52.... probably because that's what people who didn't know better probably called him, anyway.

Marvel's Captain Marvel used to go by Ms. Marvel aka Carol Danvers. She got her powers through some crazy accident involving the original Captain Marvel, Mar-Vell, who I barely know anything about besides him being a Kree that actually allies with Earth.

What to take away from this is HOLY SHIT A CAROL MOVIE!!!!! I really like her last comic run and her current series is pretty awesome too, especially since she's hanging out with the Guardians on and off.

I think they would introduce the first Captain Marvel and then later introduce Carol. Heck, if they do it right they could possibly do it in the same movie, ie him dying and passing on his powers to her
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 28 Oct 2014, 21:47
A full Shield movie could happen. I'd be down for that. But then I've always been a Shield fan.

I'm kinda annoyed another Hulk movie isn't in the works.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 28 Oct 2014, 22:03
By all himself, Hulk is a one trick pony. There isn't much they could do in a second Hulk movie that hasn't already been done in the other two, unless the Grey or Red Hulks are part of the story.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 28 Oct 2014, 22:18
I think they would introduce the first Captain Marvel and then later introduce Carol. Heck, if they do it right they could possibly do it in the same movie, ie him dying and passing on his powers to her

Without re-writing her origin story completely, they would certainly need to introduce the original, but it's Carol that a lot of people seem to want. Especially a lot of the people that want a Marvel movie with a female lead. And I may be reading into it too much, but the lettering in the title is a direct pull from her current series:

(http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/2/f0/5314d3e4534c2/portrait_incredible.jpg)

So I imagine she'll hold the reins through most of it, even if it's not from the get go.

Now, I could see Black Widow and Hawkeye getting something like the Netflix series that are in production, or maybe a spin off TV mini series like Agent Carter. But a full AAA movie release I don't see happening.

I would like to see something with Maria Hill putting together her own team of Secret Avengers. But actually good. When I see Hill on the big screen, I always ask myself why she isn't chewing anyone out and butting heads with them. I want her to have a chance to do all that (I have not seen AoS still, so maybe that happens there?). Otherwise she's just going to be Aunt Robin: Agent of SHIELD in my head. Hawkeye and Widow would be involved, as could Coulson. And maybe it'd give Jessica Drew (aka Spider-Woman) a chance to show, since in the 616 universe, she's more Avengers/SHIELD affiliated, anyway.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 29 Oct 2014, 03:33
To say that Carol Danvers has had the worst damn luck is a severe understatement. She was nearly tapped dry by Rogue and ended up in a coma for who knows how long (the repeated time-line resets of the comic make it hard to tell, sometimes). Then came the brush with alcoholism, the unrequited crush on Tony Stark and the Civil War. She even ended up being Magneto's tame human 'beard' in charge of Mutant-to-human relations when he took over the world in the 'House of M' AU.

Overall, most Marvel characters have some degree of neurotic issues (even the youngest ones, like Power Pack). However, Carol had more issues than many.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 29 Oct 2014, 05:01
Based on Tumblr speculation
Quote
captain marvel movie means

first, it’s captain marvel and not ms. marvel. marvel is fully embracing this and there will be no more fanboys calling her “ms marvel” out of bitterness
captain marvel and inhumans come out the same year = kamala you can’t convince me other wise
the current marvel cinematic universe’s first female lead movie, starring carol danvers as captain marvel
people calling carol ‘cap’ in the movie
captain marvel TRAILERS
captain marvel PREMIERE
captain marvel MOVIE
captain marvel MERCHANDISE
CAPTAIN MARVEL
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Oct 2014, 07:16
They don't have to do the origin story for Captain Marvel. In fact, I hope the phase 3 movies start in media res instead of being another series of origin stories. The 'origin story movie' is way to overused a trope and an easy/lazy way to put out a super hero film. Especially if you are Batman or Spiderman...

I think it's fairly safe to say that people going to see MCU movies know what they are getting into at this point, and we have this wonderful internet for looking up background information if a person is interested. Other than that... it really shouldn't be needed to spend more than maybe 10-20 minutes showing a scene explaining the origins of their powers for movie viewers to get where they are coming from. And with Black Panther it's really going to be a lot like Thor's origin. T'challa was born into the role of the Panther, the movie would be more likely explaining why he had decided or been forced to take on a place in the larger world(s) than just his homeland.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 29 Oct 2014, 07:40
Yeah, I'd imagine Black Panther being an origin story to much the same degree as Thor. I read that Wakanda will be featured in Age of Ultron, so like you said, we wont need much exposition to the country or the concept of the Black Panther, but rather why he ventures out in the world/what changes in his situation. I imagine the events of Black Panther will be set in motion by whatever happens in Age of Ultron.

Doctor Strange might fir more as a straight forward origin story, considering all the new elements that have to be introduced for him. (Suddenly there are trippy dimensions full of demons and magic in the MCU)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 29 Oct 2014, 07:56
Did anyone here ever see the Dr. Strange cartoon movie from the mid to late 2000s?


also newest trailer:
Love Thor's face when Cap makes the hammer jiggle.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Oct 2014, 08:21
I own that one, as well as a lot of the movies that Marvel and DC have put out direct to video. Honestly DC needs to give their live action movies over to the people they have working on their animated stuff. They have a much better grasp on the characters and what makes a good movie. I agree though that Doctor Strange will need some heavy explaining, but not necessarily a whole movie devoted to his origin story. Of all of phase 3 characters though, he is probably in most need of an origin movie.

As far as Wakanda in Avengers 2, I expect it. The opening scene is about Baron Von Strucker being taken down by the Avengers, and his secret base was revealed to be in Africa in Winter Soldier. Plus the trailer shows Andy Serkis as Ulysses Klaw, and he's scheduled to appear in Black Panther. He has a huge backstory with the Panther, Wakanda and vibranium. Plus we see Cap's shield broken in half at the end of the trailer. So they will probably need to visit Wakanda to get it fixed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 29 Oct 2014, 08:33
That all makes a lot of sense! I wonder how they will do Captain Marvel tho. By then we might have a lot more exposition to the Kree (GotG2, possibly Thor 3, several seasons og SHIELD), so they could set themselves up for a movie in minimat need of origin exposition.

Btw, have we seen anything about Skrulls yet? Or do they fall under Fox' properties?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Oct 2014, 08:43
Skrulls, kind of. But not really. A lot of the MCU was based in the beginning on the Ultimates universe version, though it has deviated a lot from that point. In the Ultimates verse, the Chitauri replaced the Skrulls. They were different from the Avengers movie Chitauri though, being Skrulls in everything but name (shape shifting infiltrating alien race vs just weird looking, possibly biotech alien invaders).  I really don't know if they will appear or not, since it can be argued that both the Fantastic Four and Avengers hold dominion over them. Mostly it would depend on the wording of the contract Fox has for the Fantastic Four characters.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 29 Oct 2014, 09:04
Prediction: Skye in Agents of SHIELD is going to turn out to be a Skrull.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Oct 2014, 09:24
Actually it's a pretty strong theory saying she's Inhuman.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 29 Oct 2014, 10:06
I have literally never watched Benedict Cumonmytits in anything and I'm already sick of him just because of the sheer rabidity of his fanbase.

But I'm reactionary like that.

You have, if you've seen the Hobbit.  He was the voice of Smaug. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Oct 2014, 10:13
if you've seen the Hobbit

GUESS AGAIN HOMBRE

I gave up twenty minutes into the first one.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 29 Oct 2014, 10:18
Bombadil Cummerbund (http://benedictcumberbatchgenerator.tumblr.com/)

Gareth may find this amusing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Fig on 29 Oct 2014, 10:20
As long as they don't get like Ryan Reynolds to play Dr. Strange, they will be getting all of my monies when it comes to theatres.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 29 Oct 2014, 14:58
Cap vs. Meow-Meow is my most anticipated movie moment for 2015
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Oct 2014, 15:32
If Kat Dennings is in Age of Ultron for any reason at all I will be happy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 29 Oct 2014, 17:47
Kat Dennings should be in everything.



Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Oct 2014, 17:48
Yes. Yes, she should.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 29 Oct 2014, 19:02
Here's the pre-teaser (I guess) for Avengers 3 they screened at the press event yesterday.


I love how the crowd loses its mind when it's revealed as a two-parter. Marvel's basically showing off at this point by throwing down a gauntlet like that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Oct 2014, 19:29
What you did there, I see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Oct 2014, 02:00
Kat Dennings should be in everything.

Can I be in Kat Dennings?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Oct 2014, 06:19
Kat Dennings should be in everything.

Can I be in Kat Dennings?

That's up to her.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Oct 2014, 06:40
Kat Dennings should be in everything.

Can I be in Kat Dennings?

That's up to her.

You got her number? I mean you know if she's not busy...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 30 Oct 2014, 06:50
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Honkytonk on 30 Oct 2014, 07:31
I'm worried for the current Cap's life in the upcoming phase. I have a feeling he's gonna snuff it either in Age of Ultron (broken shield...) or, more likely, in Civil War.

Which is a shame because I really think Chris Evans is bloody brilliant as the Cap. Don't really rate him in much else either.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Fig on 30 Oct 2014, 07:43
If they stick to the storyline he'll snuff it in Civil War more than likely.  Though I'm hearing that Evans doesn't want to keep playing Cap so he might bite the bullet in AoU.  I also hear that the Falcon will be the new Cap when it happens.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2014, 07:52
Well, Chris Evans has said he wants to get out of acting and into directing when his Captain America contract is up in two movies. Even if he doesn't die in Cap 3, they'll probably write him out as giving up the shield at the end, so they can recast the character if they need to.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 30 Oct 2014, 09:12
Yeah, I was thinking about that the other day. If they manage to develop the Winter Soldier storyline some more, we could see an MCU version of Bucky Cap. If they wanted it to coincide with more recent events, Falcon would be the choice, as Fig pointed out. I'm sure either could be done well and be interesting, though that can be said for a lot of things...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Oct 2014, 10:33
Kat Dennings should be in everything.

Can I be in Kat Dennings?

That's up to her.

You got her number? I mean you know if she's not busy...

If I had it, I'd be using it myself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 30 Oct 2014, 11:30
Okay you bonerheads, get back in yo pants and let's hope kat dennings isn't in this thread
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Oct 2014, 11:58
Kat, if you are in this thread, you can't blame a girl for crushing a bit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 30 Oct 2014, 19:06
Prediction: In the Captain Marvel movie, or wherever she is introduced, someone will speak to Carol Danver, starting with "Miss..", and she will then interrupt them and say "That's 'Captain' to you!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Oct 2014, 19:27
Do people in universe know she's Captain Marvel, or is she Captain Danver when she's not in costume?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 30 Oct 2014, 19:40
I dunno, I was thinking more about how Marvel probably want to empower her by solidifying her name as Captain Marvel, instead of Ms Marvel, and might probably make a 4th wall breaking wink at that in the movie :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Oct 2014, 19:44
No, I got that, I was just wondering in general.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 30 Oct 2014, 19:49
In the recent Avengers cartoons the crew were part of her origin story, so at least there they knew her identity. I think generally there are very few people with secret identity in the Marvel universe, at least to the other characters, compared to DC.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Fig on 30 Oct 2014, 20:04
In the recent Avengers cartoons the crew were part of her origin story, so at least there they knew her identity. I think generally there are very few people with secret identity in the Marvel universe, at least to the other characters, compared to DC.

I can only think of two of them that traditionally had secret identities: Daredevil and Spiderman.  Everyone else was kind of out there.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Oct 2014, 20:09
That's a good point. Of the main heroes in the Avengers (the film, can't speak for the comics), I don't think anyone had a secret identity. The only one whose name I don't remember is Hawkeye, I'm not sure if they never mentioned it or if I just forgot. The public might not know Romanov or Hawkeye, but that's pretty much them being spies/assassins rather than superheroes.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 30 Oct 2014, 20:52
Clint Barton
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2014, 21:06
For the most part, in the comics Captain America's identity was a loose secret. He wore his hood/mask costume and didn't use his real name. Iron Man bounced back and forth between been open and lying about his identity, if it wasn't someone else in the suit. Hulk's identity wasn't known to the general public either, but it wasn't a secret. Of course, in the MCU, everybody knows their identities now. Even if they didn't know before, after SHIELD's files were dumped to the internet, it's just a google search away.

Originally Carol wore one of those little, pointless domino masks as Ms Marvel, something that's been discarded. And a lot of people in the super world knew who she was anyway. I doubt they will be making much of an attempt to hide her identity any more than any of the other Avengers. Maybe not go out of the way to announce it like Tony did, but not try to keep it secret either.

It's interesting to note that the art they showed for Black Panther is very close to his usual comic book appearance, which is a full body suit and face mask. Something that's kind of a no-go for movies and television usually. It's considered a bad idea to cover up an actor's face because it make it harder for them to express and emote. It's easier to get away with in comics because they are a partly written form of storytelling.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 23:20
It'll just get ripped off like Spider-man, or he'll only wear it for 2% of the costumed appearances, like Cap.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 31 Oct 2014, 10:12
Do people in universe know she's Captain Marvel, or is she Captain Danver when she's not in costume?

I'm not sure of the current permutation of Carol's civilian identity. Is she still a USAF officer in the current timeline or is she just a SHIELD agent?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 31 Oct 2014, 10:25
She's been through so many reboots and re-writes over the year, but she still is the same character, essentially. So she was a USAF Captain, probably retired or considered deceased after the number of apparent deaths she's been through. According to wiki, she joined the Guardians of the Galaxy earlier this year so I'd say there's a fair chance they'll go with that idea for the MCU. What they may change, who knows? She might be an alien, like a pink skinned Kree and combine both Carol and Mar-vell into one character. Or another space-lost human. Or something else altogether.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 31 Oct 2014, 10:28
She could be introduced in GotG2!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Fig on 31 Oct 2014, 10:32
I've always imagined Black Panther having a James Earl Jones-esque voice.  They should give him the Darth Vader treatment: put someone in the suit and just have him do the VA work for it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 Oct 2014, 13:47
That'd be awesome!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Nov 2014, 02:25

It's interesting to note that the art they showed for Black Panther is very close to his usual comic book appearance, which is a full body suit and face mask. Something that's kind of a no-go for movies and television usually. It's considered a bad idea to cover up an actor's face because it make it harder for them to express and emote. It's easier to get away with in comics because they are a partly written form of storytelling.

Karl Urban and Dredd proved that while that theory is industry standard, it is in fact bullshit with good actors.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 01 Nov 2014, 05:17
Yeah, with the right people and right role it can work with a full face mask. I mean, try to find someone who says Darth Vader wasn't expressive and memorable...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 01 Nov 2014, 06:15
try to find someone who says Darth Vader wasn't expressive and memorable...

You can't, he force-choked them all :o

I'm really enjoying this season much more than the first, in many ways, even though I miss the FitzSimmons banter. I'm not keen on Bobbi, the only thing I like about her so far is that she seems to have helped the writers get a better grip on Hunter.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 01 Nov 2014, 11:38
Karl Urban and Dredd proved that while that theory is industry standard, it is in fact bullshit with good actors.

It's hard finding actors that have a good scowl, though! (Like seriously, his is pretty great.)

I think for actors to have their faces completely or mostly hidden, they really have to put forth an effort to use their voices more expressively and a lot will rely on body language. Some people rely to much on their faces to look angry, which is why Darth Vader is so great - the actor in the suit had amazing body language and JEJ is one of the best at conveying emotion through his voice. It's possible, but I can see why it's hard.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 02 Nov 2014, 00:53

It's interesting to note that the art they showed for Black Panther is very close to his usual comic book appearance, which is a full body suit and face mask. Something that's kind of a no-go for movies and television usually. It's considered a bad idea to cover up an actor's face because it make it harder for them to express and emote. It's easier to get away with in comics because they are a partly written form of storytelling.

Karl Urban and Dredd proved that while that theory is industry standard, it is in fact bullshit with good actors.

V for Vendetta is probably my favourite example of this.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Nov 2014, 04:11
Hugo Weaving is definitively one of the best at acting with his voice! It's a shame he isn't very interested in coming back to play the Red Skull again..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 02 Nov 2014, 04:37

It's interesting to note that the art they showed for Black Panther is very close to his usual comic book appearance, which is a full body suit and face mask. Something that's kind of a no-go for movies and television usually. It's considered a bad idea to cover up an actor's face because it make it harder for them to express and emote. It's easier to get away with in comics because they are a partly written form of storytelling.

Karl Urban and Dredd proved that while that theory is industry standard, it is in fact bullshit with good actors.

V for Vendetta is probably my favourite example of this.

Oh man, Hugo Weaving is the boss.  By the end, he made the audience forget that it was even a mask, he's that awesome.  It had actually become his face, and I can't think of any other actor who could make that happen. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 02 Nov 2014, 11:18
After Agent Elrond, I wasn't too sure about Weaving. But when he isn't channeling his breakout role, he's awesome. Actually he's awesome when he is, but seeing it in two different characters takes some of the shine off.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 02 Nov 2014, 17:52
After Agent Elrond, I wasn't too sure about Weaving. But when he isn't channeling his breakout role, he's awesome. Actually he's awesome when he is, but seeing it in two different characters takes some of the shine off.

Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Detachable Felix on 02 Nov 2014, 18:52
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr Anderson.
Mixing up Hugo Weaving's lines.. there's a tumblr in this, I'm sure.

Agent Smith: "We're oft to blame, and this is too much proved, that with devotion's visage and pious action we do sugar on the devil himself. "
Neo: "....What's that mean?"
Smith: "Spare the rod, Mr Anderson"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Nov 2014, 22:56
"You are deluded, Captain. You pretend to be a simple soldier, but in reality you are just afraid to admit that we have left humanity behind. Unlike you, I embrace it proudly. Without fear!"

- Megatron
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 03 Nov 2014, 04:49
Oh man, Hugo Weaving is the boss.  By the end, he made the audience forget that it was even a mask, he's that awesome.  It had actually become his face, and I can't think of any other actor who could make that happen.

Rene Auberjonois was just as good in Star Trek - Deep Space Nine. His prosthetic make-up was essentially a rigid plate apart from the eye and mouth apertures, so all emoting had to be done using body posture and vocal tone. He did a powerfully good job to the point where almost everyone who met him said that they were moved by the emotion of his performance as Constable Odo.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 03 Nov 2014, 12:58
Aubergine is probably underrated because his voice pattern is so distinct.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 05 Nov 2014, 13:08

also quick question about winter soldier: Why is Black Widow always on about him getting a date?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Nov 2014, 13:56
I thought she was talking about Captain America, not the Winter Soldier.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 05 Nov 2014, 14:08
She was. I was just curious because it happens in winter soldier.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Nov 2014, 14:10
Well, it's the first Cap-Centric movies since the first one, and Black Widow wasn't really around in that one.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 05 Nov 2014, 14:17
I just wonder if the movie is calling out all the action movies that have to have a love interest and this one doesn't have one, or if she's got some sort of actual motivation for bugging him about it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 05 Nov 2014, 14:18
So who's ready for Big Hero 6?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 05 Nov 2014, 14:21
Given Marvel's vague plan about a series based on his first love interest, it might have been foreshadowing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 06 Nov 2014, 04:08
So who's ready for Big Hero 6?

In Norway they mostly only show dubbed versions for animated films, so I sure wont be seeing it at the cinema. Sooo, still a while to wait :[
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Dec 2014, 20:15
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/bcafe7d6f4516654a0c478099967d8ff/tumblr_ng2zh8ATf41qgx21do1_500.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Dec 2014, 21:27
Someone that sucked less.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Dec 2014, 00:37
Linking to said casting would be nice.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 05 Dec 2014, 03:03
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/389349-marvel-confirms-benedict-cumberbatch-as-doctor-strange#/slide/1
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Dec 2014, 19:54
Linking to said casting would be nice.
It's exactly who it's been for months :roll:

Benedict Cummerbund
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 06 Dec 2014, 02:25
Rumpledink Bandersnatch
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 06 Dec 2014, 03:52
I see no way that particular casting choice could go wrong, he's a good actor, it's everything else about the movie that can (and probably will) go bad.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Dec 2014, 20:26
I know nothing about that character, and all I know about the movie is that he's in it. Honestly, that plus Marvel means...that's enough for me to see it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Dec 2014, 03:39
That relies on my having paid attention for months.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 08 Dec 2014, 05:35
Because the movies marvel have been putting out have been so bad?

I like Cumberbatch, I like Dr. Strange, I have liked all of the marvel movies so far. You guys are being too negative, you're spoiling the fun for some of us.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Dec 2014, 06:02
I just have no interest in the Dr. Strange film...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 08 Dec 2014, 08:24
Yes, you've made it rather clear.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Dec 2014, 08:29
If you don't like it, you don't like it. I could never get through any of the Hulk films. I just find the character to be very boring, personally. I do like Doctor Strange though. And it does bring an interesting twist to the universe. Up until then, every source of power has been explicitly science and/or training based. Usually some combination of both. Even Thor and the Asgardians have been pointed out aren't gods in a traditional sense and their powers aren't magic, but rather alien science that might as well be magic. But Doctor Strange is straight up, hand waving, spell chanting, Eye of Agamottoing Magic with a capital M. Even the 'they were just born with powers' people set up in the MCU are being positioned as Inhumans, and therefore a product of alien genetic tinkering.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 08 Dec 2014, 09:15
If you don't like it, you don't like it. I could never get through any of the Hulk films. I just find the character to be very boring, personally.

I think the Hulk is best suited as a supporting character. Best served in small but potent doses!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 12 Dec 2014, 11:28

Also, Minor news about Ant-Man (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/391735-new-plot-synopsis-and-character-details-for-ant-man-released).

EDIT: Long interview with Joss Whedon. (http://www.superherohype.com/features/324833-director-joss-whedon-from-the-set-of-avengers-age-of-ultron)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Dec 2014, 18:07
Luke Cage has been cast; Mike Colter (http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/394445-mike-colter-officially-cast-as-marvels-luke-cage).

Haven't seen the guy in anything, but he looks the part at least :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Dec 2014, 18:12
I think Ant Man is where the Marvel Universe bubble's going to burst
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Dec 2014, 18:25
I don't think it'll be as good as Winter Soldier or GotG, but I have faith it'll at least be a serviceable movie, like the first Thor and Captain America. Feige and the crew have gained my trust over the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 22 Dec 2014, 18:43
Worst that can happen is that it'll be the least-good film in a series of above average films, and it won't make as much money.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Dec 2014, 19:41
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5cHLipCAAAuFed.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Dec 2014, 20:22
Worst that can happen is that it'll be least-good film in a series of above average films, and it won't make as much money.
It'll probably be better than Norton's Hulk.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 23 Dec 2014, 09:47
This massive advanced schedule of movies being announced in advance has killed a lot of the magic. We will never again have that joyous will they/won't they universe building that led in the first place to The Avengers.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 23 Dec 2014, 10:32
Worst that can happen is that it'll be least-good film in a series of above average films, and it won't make as much money.
It'll probably be better than Norton's Hulk.
I liked Norton's.  I didn't give Bana's the time of day though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 23 Dec 2014, 11:07
My buddies and I were talking about movies, and we had this long discussion about how the last Captain America movie was like the opposite of a spy movie.  It had the framework of a spy flick, with the sinister government organization, and then tossed the protagonist most unlike a typical spy movie protagonist into it.  With most protagonists, the movie would be about how the lines of morality are blurred, forcing the hero to accept a certain amount of evil and compromise his ideals as he fights against the villains, slowly becoming what he was fighting against, and instead, we had Captain America dropping through government corruption like a hot knife through thin ice.  This led to a discussion about how the movie was basically calling the NSA nazis, and you could only really get away with that when you're using Captain America.  If it had been Iron Man vs NSA-Nazis, it would have shaded the movie as private enterprise vs government control, but Steve Rogers has been established as a kind of beacon of all things good and righteous, a force to battle evil, while the other Avengers all have their own thing beyond that.  Stark champions the concept of responsibility and accountability in business and technology, and Thor is more of an outsider trying to prevent evils from his realm/world/domain from spilling into new worlds, but good ol Steve simply holds the line against evil without compromise.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Dec 2014, 12:55
If you're unsure which side is "right" and which side is "wrong" when there's a conflict in the Marvel universe, just look where Steve Rogers is. Alternatively, he's on the "wrong" side, then switches over to the "right" side when he realized with his infallible morals that he was on the "wrong" side.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Dec 2014, 19:26
I love that Captain America sided with America when it was on the moral side because it was on the moral side, rather than siding on the moral side because it happened to be America.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 03 Jan 2015, 15:07
The teaser trailer for Ant-Man has been released:

Doesn't show much, but hey, we (sort of) get a glimpse of his suit when he's running  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 04 Jan 2015, 03:38
'Agent Carter' isn't run on any network I receive. Is it an 'Agents of SHIELD' spin-off centred around Captain America's 1940s girlfriend?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Jan 2015, 04:11
The teaser trailer for Ant-Man has been released:

Doesn't show much, but hey, we (sort of) get a glimpse of his suit when he's running  :mrgreen:
For fuck's sake...a teaser trailer for a teaser trailer?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Jan 2015, 05:21
Don't forget the "Ant-Sized" teaser for the "Human-Sized" teaser of the teaser trailer.


But hey, this new way of hollywood hype marketing is entirely our own fault  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Jan 2015, 14:37
Money generation in hollywood is all bout dat hype train baby
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Jan 2015, 18:41
You'd think these days that Marvel movies more or less sell themselves.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 05 Jan 2015, 19:31
They do. They just enjoy trolling everyone.

Come on now, if you were Marvel, wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Jan 2015, 04:00
Fox confirmed 2016 release for Gambit starring Channing Tatum.

Sigh... I wish the Xmen were back in Marvel's hands.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 06 Jan 2015, 04:22
Well, now that Disney is doing all the Marvel movies, they might decide that they want to complete the set and throw enough money around to get all the movie rights Marvel signed away.  It would, however, require a recasting of the Fantastic Four, unless we want Chris Evans as Cap and Chris Evans as Human Torch in the crossover movie acting against himself all Eddie Murphy style.  Admittedly, it would allow for Johnny Storm to say something clever like how Steve Rogers is a handsome devil. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 06 Jan 2015, 09:09
They should recast Fantastic Four anyway, except for The Thing. Michael Chickless was the only good choice they made in either movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 06 Jan 2015, 09:14
There's already a (recast) F4 reboot due THIS year.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Jan 2015, 09:39
and may the gods have mercy on our souls
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 06 Jan 2015, 09:42
The fact that there has been pretty much NO news on a superhero movie coming out in less than a year is either a really good, or a really bad sign. I'mma go with bad.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Jan 2015, 10:12
I'mma go with MovieBob on this one... Sony seems determined not to advertise the movie at all. That usually means they know it's bad and they only made it out of legal obligation to hold onto the rights. However, since the rights seem to have gone back to Marvel/Marvel Studios, it might be that they just don't want to throw more money after it advertising something they won't be able to continue later on. They'd rather see it sink than indirectly promote an IP they won't get any more of a percentage of.

Given the track record of FF movies though. I'm going with 'It's going to stink more than Galactus after he ate the Planet of Beans.'
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 06 Jan 2015, 11:07
Actually, Fox are the ones with the F4. Sony only has Spider-Man and associated characters.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Jan 2015, 11:42
mm... I thought Sony had Spiderman and the FF and Fox had X-Men? I can't keep up....
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 06 Jan 2015, 16:17
Regardless, they only have them until Disney decides that they want them.  Seriously, the kind of profits Disney makes on Marvel movies means that they have both the resources and the incentives to go get everything.  Which I am totally okay with.  Disney seems perfectly content to let nerd writers and directors handle everything without trying to slap the Disney brand on it, and the fantastic results mean that we can expect them to keep doing so. 

Plus, it is kind of awesome that Tom Hiddleston is technically a Disney Prince now. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 07 Jan 2015, 08:34
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jan 2015, 15:13
What'd people think of the Agent Carter premiere? I liked it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 07 Jan 2015, 15:25
Haven't seen it yet. There's no UK dates but I'm assuming the same channel that has Agents Of Shield will hopefully pick it up.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jan 2015, 15:28
Well it aired, so if it hasn't aired where you are then I see no ethical reason not to download it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 07 Jan 2015, 18:18
Michael Douglas looks weird with facial hair
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 12 Jan 2015, 21:26
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Jan 2015, 21:35
"Oh hey, the Hulk and Iron Man in his Hulkbuster suit are duking it out right here in the street!  I'm just gonna stand around and gawk.  This is way coo--" THUD
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Jan 2015, 05:08
If those two are fighting and you can see them then getting to a safe distance isn't even remotely possible anyway, so you might as well enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 27 Jan 2015, 07:35
 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 27 Jan 2015, 08:16
Looks like the reboot is going to heavily play up the Negative Zone plot device.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 27 Jan 2015, 08:55
I *think* that is going to be the whole origin story. That machine they are being sealed into is supposed to transport them to another dimension, instead of a space craft and 'cosmic rays'. Mind you so little has been said about the movie that I could easily be wrong. And it seems a bit silly, with all the activity going on lately about private companies working towards space travel, the whole 'Reed builds a rocket in his back yard and takes his friends for a spin' actually makes logical sense.

That said.. watching this sadly makes me even less interested in seeing the movie than before, when I knew almost nothing about it. It's looking very grim, dark and gritty... Seemingly the default attempt to make 'super heroes grow up and be made for adults'. And ignoring the fact that most people who want to see these movies and shows are likely the ones who want to relieve their youth. They don't want their characters dark, dingy and grim.. unless they started out that way of course. Trying to give Spiderman or the Fantastic Four the Batman treatment though? Not going to work. That's not what those characters are like.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 04 Feb 2015, 06:51
 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 04 Feb 2015, 23:08
That actually looks pretty good.  Better than the last one, at least.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Honkytonk on 05 Feb 2015, 15:06
I'm really enjoying Agent Carter. Mind you I'm the kind of person who's enjoyed Agents of Shield all the way through, so perhaps not the best arbiter. But still...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Feb 2015, 03:33
Spidey confirmed to be headed to the MCU. (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/408299-its-official-spider-man-enters-the-marvel-cinematic-universe)

So that is finally happening. Glorious victory or the start of Marvel's decline?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 03:36
Spidey confirmed to be headed to the MCU. (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/408299-its-official-spider-man-enters-the-marvel-cinematic-universe)

So that is finally happening. Glorious victory or the start of Marvel's decline?

Just so long as this doesn't turn into another reboot I'll be fine.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Feb 2015, 03:48
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Feb 2015, 05:31
Spidey confirmed to be headed to the MCU. (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/408299-its-official-spider-man-enters-the-marvel-cinematic-universe)

So that is finally happening. Glorious victory or the start of Marvel's decline?

Quote from: the article
Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films.

Emphasis mine and...god damn it.

Re: Benergy- Is it reboots you don't like or origin stories?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 05:39
Re: Benergy- Is it reboots you don't like or origin stories?

It's the unnecessary extra and often inferior origin stories necessitated by reboots that I don't like.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Feb 2015, 06:51
I don't like origins generally, reboots I try to give a chance but in Amazing Spiderman's case I never really gave it a shot because of how tiny the gap between the two franchises was.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 10 Feb 2015, 08:02
 
Quote
An artist’s impression of how the deal went down:
(http://i.imgur.com/2OiAyrO.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 10 Feb 2015, 08:43
I'm hoping its a new and different spider-man...played by Donald Glover...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Feb 2015, 12:27
Quote from: the article
Sony Pictures will continue to finance, distribute, own and have final creative control of the Spider-Man films.

Emphasis mine and...god damn it.

I think that's just to keep face. I would bet Feige and Marvel will have most of the creative control. Sony understands they know what they're doing (and wants a piece of that cake), and I also doubt Marvel would accept this deal if they didn't get the creative control.

Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ybtlamw on 10 Feb 2015, 13:37
It's almost a given the new Spider-Man film's going to be a reboot. That said, I think they'll discuss his origins in Civil War—where he's likely to first appear. Then, once his standalone film comes around, they can jump right into him kicking ass as Spider-Man, rather than dealing with his origin story.

I think there's a good chance that, if they cast Peter Parker/Spider-Man quickly enough (without doing the character a disservice, obviously), they can film a quick scene where Peter gets bitten by a radioactive spider to add as a post-credits scene to Age of Ultron. It wouldn't be unprecedented, considering the shawarma scene from The Avengers was shot after the film premiered.

Then, since we'll know how he got his powers (radioactive spider bite), Civil War can deal with his character deciding to become a superhero just like his idol, Captain America. It works out almost too perfectly to not be what they're currently planning.

I also brought this up on another forum I frequent: Since all signs point to Spider-Man being featured in Civil War, my guess is that they've had two scripts for Civil War all along—one including Spider-Man, and one without. That way, if Marvel would've gotten the rights, they could've featured Spider-Man without any heavy editing, and, if they didn't, well, there would be nothing lost.

I think this opens up so much for the MCU.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 10 Feb 2015, 15:41
Every article I read about this argued that a Nu-Spiderman should have no Peter Parker but someone else.

But I like Peter Parker
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Feb 2015, 16:10
It's because the second most popular iteration of Spider-Man is Miles Morales, who happens to be a black kid, so they get internet points for having that opinion.

Imagine if someone put it out there that maybe they should make a Batman movie with someone else than Bruce Wayne..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Feb 2015, 17:28
Donald Glover for Spider-Man.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ybtlamw on 10 Feb 2015, 18:30
Donald Glover would've been awesome as Miles Morales ten years ago, but Marvel wants to go with a much younger actor (around 20 years old) so they can properly portray Peter Parker as a high school kid. Both Glover and Andrew Garfield are over 30.

Just because he was decent at voicing Miles Morales doesn't mean he should play him in a live-action adaptation. Otherwise Drake Bell's name would be coming up more for Peter than it has been.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Feb 2015, 19:21
Donald Glover's just awesome in general and he mentioned wanting to play Spider-Man in a stand-up special, I didn't even know he voiced Miles!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Feb 2015, 19:28
He's past 30 though, so I think it's kind of out of the question. I would imagine they are going for someone young enough to be at noticeable contrast to the rest of the Avengers, not to mention being able to stay in the role for a long time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ybtlamw on 10 Feb 2015, 20:13
Donald Glover's just awesome in general and he mentioned wanting to play Spider-Man in a stand-up special, I didn't even know he voiced Miles!

Indeed. He voiced Miles Morales for two episodes on Ultimate Spider-Man. I sort of undersold him by saying he was "decent," but I thought he was actually quite good.

The trouble is, like I said, Marvel wants to go much younger, and as Donald Glover is past 30 at this point, it's highly unlikely that they choose him. And it's even less likely that they'll choose Miles Morales over Peter Parker, especially since they already said this Spider-Man will be Peter Parker anyway.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 12 Feb 2015, 15:15
you know, they had a really good point there in the coffee shop.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 13 Feb 2015, 04:19
Given the penultimate scene of Days of Future Past, I sort of expected for Wolverine to wake up in bed with Mystique.

Hell, given how completely the time-line could possibly have been screwed up (Mystique an X-Man from way back; Magneto with a crisis of confidence that Raven has turned her back on him and becoming a recluse), you could likely have a whole movie just laying out the revised time-line from 1970-present.

This, by the way is a reboot in all but name. They can hand-wave away bringing back Phoenix and any other dead character (except those who were killed prior to Wolverine's jump back). I wonder if they're planning a threequel to exploit that?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 13 Feb 2015, 05:35
The next movie is Apocalypse. What they're doing with it though, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 04 Mar 2015, 14:40

I think we are now coming to the point where the trailers are starting to show more key scenes, so if you want a completely blank slate..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 27 Mar 2015, 10:18
(http://i.imgur.com/IaZn7QQ.png)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 28 Mar 2015, 04:46
Is Deadpool part of the MCU?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 28 Mar 2015, 07:15
Nah, he belongs to Fox.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 28 Mar 2015, 07:24
Though I'm not entirely sure he'd appreciate you saying that he belongs to anyone, really.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 30 Mar 2015, 23:53
Naturally,  Deadpool movie would demand a shattered Fourth Wall. The trick will be not to make it so overt that it impacts on suspension of disbelief or, worse, turns the movie into cheap self-parody.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: maxusy3k on 02 Apr 2015, 03:14
Since we're on the topic, a video went up yesterday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day) discussing one of the major concerns so far; how Deadpool is going to work as a PG-13 movie.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Apr 2015, 03:44
Honestly, PG-13 movies can be pretty fucking violent. They just can't say fuck more than once (so this post is rated R).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 02 Apr 2015, 04:01
American movie ratings are bullshit and the people who decide them are also bullshit.

The number of horror movies I've seen where I can watch someone get sawn in half uninterrupted but every sex scene has the girl wearing a bra. It really is ridiculous.

I'm iffy on censorship as a concept, but not dead against it - I just hate hypocrisy in censorship. I mean surely if we're going to be lax on one thing and hard on the other, the natural human bodily function (fucking) is probably a better choice to be lax on than the horrifying violence, right?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 02 Apr 2015, 05:32
American movie ratings are bullshit and the people who decide them are also bullshit.

The number of horror movies I've seen where I can watch someone get sawn in half uninterrupted but every sex scene has the girl wearing a bra. It really is ridiculous.

I'm iffy on censorship as a concept, but not dead against it - I just hate hypocrisy in censorship. I mean surely if we're going to be lax on one thing and hard on the other, the natural human bodily function (fucking) is probably a better choice to be lax on than the horrifying violence, right?

Here in the UK, film classification has been a joke since the 1990s. The tide turned when Warner Brothers persuaded the British Board of Film Classification to introduce the '12' rating after refusing to make cuts in Tim Burton's 'Batman' to earn the PG rating. When they threatened not to release the film in the UK, the cinema owners went ballistic and put pressure on the BBFC to find a compromise, the 12 certificate being that.

Secure in their victory, fifteen years later, the BBFC was forced to introduce  the even more meaningless '12+' rating to appease the distributors of action and horror blockbusters who insisted in exceeding the weak limits of the 12 classification and then threaten not to release the movie (and thus likely bankrupt Britain's cinema chains) if the BBFC rated it as a 15. I confidently expect that the modifier 'subject to parental discretion' will be added to the instruction not to admit under-15s and under 18s to the 15 and 18 classification instructions shortly.

FWIW, I remember the original classification scheme in the UK:

U - Universal - particularly assessed as suitable for children
A - Standard-quality movie that BBFC has authorised for general release
AA - The BBFC recommends that children not watch this movie
B - The BBFC judges that this movie falls below reasonable artistic standards; spend your money on this at your own risk (to this day 'B-Movie' is British slang for what our American cousins would call a 'bomb')
X - Breaches the BBFC's classification standards in terms of violence, language, nudity and/or sexual activity; can only be shown in specially-licensed theatres and only legal adults (over-21) can view.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 02 Apr 2015, 06:07
I'm actually a Brit, so I'm aware of how ridiculous our own ratings system is, my point was more that however bad ours is... America's is worse.

You watch an 18-rated Hammer Horror film in the UK, and you're going to get tits and violence. You watch an R-rated horror in the US, you're going to get... cleavage and violence. But because of the level of violence, it'll still be an 18 when it gets over here. Or maybe a 15. It kinda varies.

Then of course there's the X-rating in the US, which is like a guarantee no-one will see your film because no cinemas will show it. Even though the differences between an X and an R would be absolutely negligible in the grand scheme.

And of course, PG13 and 12 films are ridiculous anyway, because they show shitloads of deaths (X2 anyone?) but no gore. So, violence, just no consequences. Yay! And god forbid you see a nipple in a sexual context, EVERYONE ON EARTH WILL WANK THEMSELVES BLIND!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Apr 2015, 06:12
I hate it when I wank myself blind.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 02 Apr 2015, 06:12
That's why I like Australia's film and video game classification system (now that we've introduced the R rating for games, that is). It's really simple and I haven't come across terribly many films that don't seem appropriately classified (though a few films that used to be rated R have been downgraded).

G - Suitable for General Exhibition (usually children's films)
PG - Parental Guidance for Children Under the Age of 12 (still largely family friendly stuff but will usually carry labels warning of "supernatural" or "violent" themes. Kids can still see/purchase these films by themselves without an adult).
M - Mature content, recommended for people 15 years and above (roughly equivalent to the more violent or frightening end of the US's PG13 nonsense. Usually these films/games will have some swearing (but nothing worse than the word "shit") and very minor violence. All the Harry Potter films from PoA onwards were M. Younger children can still go see/purchase these films without parental supervision).
MA15+ - Mature content, restricted to audiences 15 years and above (usually reserved for films that feature both violence and nudity or just slightly extreme violence. These films get to say "fuck". Most softcore porn films get this rating).
R - restricted to audiences 18 years and above (basically anything really violent or sexy. Most porn is R, Fight Club is R because of the stuff about making bombs (though I think that it, along with Universal Soldier and the Proposition are some of a number of films that have been reclassified as MA).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 02 Apr 2015, 11:49
Typical of the Yanks


Show as much violence, death, slaughter and mayhem as you want

But show a pair of Breasts and hear them cry foul


Jeeze
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 02 Apr 2015, 13:50
12+? I know of 12A, but not 12+...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 07 Apr 2015, 09:33
Typical of the Yanks
Show as much violence, death, slaughter and mayhem as you want
But show a pair of Breasts and hear them cry foul
Jeeze
South park did an entire episode that lead up to that fact. "Fun times with weapons"

So Looks like they are going to CGI Deadpool's eyes so they can be more expressive, like in the comic books.
(http://i.imgur.com/7v4qi9v.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Apr 2015, 19:42
Typical of the Yanks
Show as much violence, death, slaughter and mayhem as you want

But show a pair of Breasts and hear them cry foul

A pair?

Hell, just ONE damn near made the FCC's phone lines melt.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 08 Apr 2015, 19:50
(http://screencrush.com/files/2015/04/avengers-2-cover-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Apr 2015, 20:00
Hehe, Hawkeye pose.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Apr 2015, 20:42
Is Hulk making the "impossibru" face?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Apr 2015, 20:52
"HULK LEAVE OVEN ON."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Apr 2015, 21:16
I do like that Hawkeye is the one giving the traditional 'butt and breast pose' and not Widow or Scarlet Witch.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 10 Apr 2015, 17:18
So we're nearing the end of the first season of Daredevil on Netflix and, I gotta admit, at the moment I'm only watching this because it's a show about a Marvel character. So many things I'm disappointed with. The writing, the dialogue in particular, is down-right amateurish much of the time. I want to like the main cast of characters, but there are some major problems with casting as well as with the quality of acting. I thought Kingpin was a great villain in the comics, and I thought his portrayal in the misbegotten Daredevil movie was kinda awesome. The idiot in the series, well, I can't stand to see him on screen, and I hate hearing him even more. God, that ridiculous voice... also displeased with the overly grimdark approach. It makes for a visually unsatisfying experience and doesn't do much for the frequent but kinda dull action scenes.

I'm gonna keep watching the show obviously, but right now it kinda feels like the TV equivalent of someone taking a bowl of delicious soup and then watering it down with fouled water and tossing in small pieces of wtf why for good measure. I like Matt, Karen, Claire, Ben and Claire. I even liked the Russians and the others surrounding Fisk. But Fisk himself is like a pile of streaming poo on a beautiful carpet that you just had such high hopes for...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 10 Apr 2015, 23:22
This would be a Cartoon/TV Series/Movie I'd watch


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/Kugai2/Anime%20Pics/Gender%20Flipped%20Avengers.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 11 Apr 2015, 05:01
Black Widow(man) kinda creeps me out. He doesn't look like a very friendly fellow.

Also, that's exactly how Mark Ruffalo's hair would look like if he was a woman (/had longer hair)!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2015, 05:06
Black Widower, you mean? Where does Bidow come from?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Apr 2015, 05:25
Boy Widow, I'm guessing.  Frankly, I've always hated the word widower and think widow should be gender-neutral.  I mean, I get it, in the good ol' days a man who lost his wife was just considered an eligible bachelor again (and I think "bachelor" should be gender-neutral as well; "bachelorette" just looks stupid), but surely we can accept that anyone can be a widow without adding a modifier to it, right?

/rant over
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2015, 06:09
I never understood it. Wouldn't a widower widow people? As in kill husbands?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Apr 2015, 06:44
In which case, Black Widower may make sense...
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 11 Apr 2015, 07:19
I'm really liking the Daredevil netflix show, it goes a long way to show just how physically tiring it is for someone to fight a lot of people without super powers
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Apr 2015, 08:19
I'm only 3 episodes in, but I like it too. My friend pointed out that in fight scenes, minor bad guys fall down and get back up, which almost never happens.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 11 Apr 2015, 08:39
Also, those opening credits


Also that amazing Ben Urich
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Apr 2015, 14:11
I never understood it. Wouldn't a widower widow people? As in kill husbands?

That was always what I thought.  Synonym for widowmaker.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 12 Apr 2015, 03:54
Just finished the Daredevil series and I really, really enjoyed it. Some things didn't feel exactly right and I found D'Onofrio's Fisk to be too...emotional? and reactive. I guess I was expecting the Kingpin to be colder and harder but I suppose this first season is as much Fisk's origin as it is Murdoch's. I loved the mask they went with for the majority of the series. It was really simple but the silhouette was strong and it looked cool. Didn't love the costume reveal at the end of the series. Maybe they'll re-design it a little for next season.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 12 Apr 2015, 06:13
Given that Daredevil is one of a precious few Marvel characters I genuinely like and root for (thanks to Bendis's run on it in the early noughties) I think I'll need to give this series a watch.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 06:14
This would be a Cartoon/TV Series/Movie I'd watch


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/Kugai2/Anime%20Pics/Gender%20Flipped%20Avengers.jpg)

I'd watch it too, but I'd be griping that Female Thor had the wrong costume.

The one they should use:
(http://www.geekoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/FEMALE-THOR.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Apr 2015, 07:16
That picture was drawn before the new Thor was announced though, so kinda understandable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 12 Apr 2015, 08:24
Also, it's a female version of movie-Thor, not the female character.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2015, 15:34
You'll notice too that they left Sam Jackson as Fury.

You don't fuck with Samuel L. Jackson
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Apr 2015, 16:02
Samantha L. Jackson
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Apr 2015, 17:33
You'll notice too that they left Sam Jackson as Fury.

You don't fuck with Samuel L. Jackson

Look again. Fury is a woman in the picture. Nicole Fury?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2015, 21:10
Good gravy!!!

I never even realised and I've had that image for over a year!!!!


Even used it as a Desktop Background a couple of times


Soooooooo


Nicola Fury - Badass Head of S.H.I.E.L.D
Antonia 'Toni' Stark - Billionaire philanthropist, Playgirl, all around genius and Iron Woman
Brenda Banner - Physicist, Biologist and She-Hulk
Francis Barton - Covert Agent, Master Archer.  Likes to be called Hawkeye
Thor Odinsdotter - Asgardian Demigodess
Stephani 'Stevie' Rodgers - First female Supersoldier, Codenamed 'Captain America'
Nickolai 'Nicky' Rominova - Ex KGB Agent, freelancer.  Codenamed 'Black Widow' after the Spider and as a bit of 'Black Humor' by former KGB bosses.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 21:19
You'll notice too that they left Sam Jackson as Fury.

You don't fuck with Samuel L. Jackson

Look again. Fury is a woman in the picture. Nicole Fury?

Niki?

Nikolina?
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Post by: Gladstone on 12 Apr 2015, 21:29
Nikita.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2015, 05:03
La Fury Nikita
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Post by: Edguy on 13 Apr 2015, 08:45
First full Ant-Man trailer is here:
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Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Apr 2015, 09:16
La Fury Nikita

La Furry Nikita? The world isn't ready for on screen scritching.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Apr 2015, 09:51
Nice. That's my first time seeing Yellowjacket on screen, and I got to say.. He looks seriously bad ass.
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Post by: Lines on 13 Apr 2015, 10:17
Thomas the train has never looked more menacing. I audibly lol'd at that!
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 13 Apr 2015, 13:16
What do you mean, of course Yellowjacket is badass
(http://cdn1.sciencefiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Yellowjacket_HankPym.jpeg)
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Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2015, 14:04
Nicola Fury - Badass Head of S.H.I.E.L.D
Antonia 'Toni' Stark - Billionaire philanthropist, Playgirl, all around genius and Iron Woman
Brenda Banner - Physicist, Biologist and She-Hulk
Francis Barton - Covert Agent, Master Archer.  Likes to be called Hawkeye
Thor Odinsdotter - Asgardian Demigodess
Stephani 'Stevie' Rodgers - First female Supersoldier, Codenamed 'Captain America'
Nickolai 'Nicky' Rominova - Ex KGB Agent, freelancer.  Codenamed 'Black Widow' after the Spider and as a bit of 'Black Humor' by former KGB bosses.

With me, once an idea takes hold, it's hard to shake it.  I can be a Dog with a bone creatively when an idea takes hold.  Take what I came up with last night as I was lying in bed

Fury - Straight, but married to the job
Stark - Lesbian playgirl, but has feelings for her Chief Assistant Miss Pepper Potts
Banner - Considers herself straight, but  admits she can sometimes be attracted to her own sex. 
Barton - Straight and interested in Rominova
Thor - Bi.  Likes Rodgers but .......
Rodgers - Straight.  Had a boyfriend before being frozen.
Rominova - Straight, hides his feelings well, but secretly reciprocates Bartons interest.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2015, 14:31
Shouldn't Potts be a dude?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 13 Apr 2015, 16:10
Olivia Munn has been cast as Psylocke in X-men: Apocalypse
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Post by: Edguy on 13 Apr 2015, 16:27
With me, once an idea takes hold, it's hard to shake it.  I can be a Dog with a bone creatively when an idea takes hold.  Take what I came up with last night as I was lying in bed

Fury - Straight, but married to the job
Stark - Lesbian playgirl, but has feelings for her Chief Assistant Miss Pepper Potts
Banner - Considers herself straight, but  admits she can sometimes be attracted to her own sex. 
Barton - Straight and interested in Rominova
Thor - Bi.  Likes Rodgers but .......
Rodgers - Straight.  Had a boyfriend before being frozen.
Rominova - Straight, hides his feelings well, but secretly reciprocates Bartons interest.

Woah, you just spilled tumblr all over my screen.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2015, 16:32
Shouldn't Potts be a dude?

Not necessarily, and not with the idea nebulously running  around in my head.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2015, 16:45
Why not? Everyone else is flipped.
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Post by: jwhouk on 13 Apr 2015, 16:48
Olivia Munn has been cast as Psylocke in X-men: Apocalypse

"Oh yeah? Well, OUR quarterback is dating a member of the X-Men!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 13 Apr 2015, 19:49
I don't know whats more fantastic.  The fact that they plan to have a long series of movies about different superheros in the same continuity, or the fact that at the same time they are doing it with netflix series, to eventually culminate in The Defenders series throwing all of them together...only then to pick them up and put them in the movies too?

https://imgur.com/gallery/hiH6I (https://imgur.com/gallery/hiH6I)


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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2015, 21:59
Why not? Everyone else is flipped.

I work on the rule that if you're going to gender flip major characters such as those of the Avengers, then you need to keep a fair number of secondary characters as they were in the 'Real' Universe in order to 'Anchor' the story.
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Post by: Edguy on 14 Apr 2015, 04:38
Wouldn't male Potts basically be the same character as Jarvis from Agent Carter, only less British?
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Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Apr 2015, 10:33
Watching Daredevil,
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2015, 10:39
How many episodes in is that spoiler?
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Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Apr 2015, 11:20
Very soon I think. Definitely post 6.
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Post by: Edguy on 18 Apr 2015, 04:48
Hey people in the US, I'm gonna see Age of Ultron this Thursday. Who's jelly?
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Post by: Masterpiece on 18 Apr 2015, 05:39
I'm not, cuz I'm watching it on Thursday too
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 Apr 2015, 05:51
I'm not, cause it's coming out on Free Comic Book Day and it's the perfect ending to it.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Apr 2015, 08:34
I'm not seeing it until mid-May, since I promised Sarah I'd wait for her to get back from school and see it with her.
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Post by: Lines on 18 Apr 2015, 11:48
Hey people in the US, I'm gonna see Age of Ultron this Thursday. Who's jelly?

 :x :x :x
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 18 Apr 2015, 12:31
Hey people in the US, I'm gonna see Age of Ultron this Thursday. Who's jelly?

Up yours, you smug lucky, lucky, lucky jerk. :x

I'm not, cuz I'm watching it on Thursday too

*jealous pout* And yours too. :-P

It's not fair that some areas get to see it first, movies this big should be released worldwide on the same day.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Apr 2015, 13:31
You're in the UK, yes? The release date is Thursday here too.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 18 Apr 2015, 20:51
It's pretty rare that Australia gets anything early but for some reason Age of Ultron is coming out on thursday. I am going to watch this movie once a week for it's entire theatrical run. Gonna be a good time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 18 Apr 2015, 21:21
It's an American franchise! Fuck this nonsense! *tantrum stomp*
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 18 Apr 2015, 21:42
I don't know whats more fantastic.  The fact that they plan to have a long series of movies about different superheros in the same continuity, or the fact that at the same time they are doing it with netflix series, to eventually culminate in The Defenders series throwing all of them together...only then to pick them up and put them in the movies too?

All this excites me too--although I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that, for the last few years at least, the idea of the Marvel Cinematic Universe has excited me more than the substance of it.  I love that Marvel managed to build a shared film and (now) tv franchise connecting their various heroes, but I'm not much of a film-watcher, so I hadn't actually seen any of the movies since the first Iron Man.  Gave Guardians of the Galaxy a try last year, though, and didn't enjoy it as much as I hoped (I know, blasphemy!), but I was still excited about what Marvel was doing to keep rooting for them...

...and then I saw the Age of Ultron trailers and decided it was time to come aboard.  So I'm now working my way through Phase 1 of the films, and hopefully I'll catch up with Phase 2 in time to still see Age of Ultron in theaters.  This is cool stuff.  What a time to be alive, indeed.
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Post by: Edguy on 19 Apr 2015, 05:23
Actually, the release here is Wednesday. I'm just not watching it on the premiere day.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 19 Apr 2015, 05:41
hmm. Aside from the Hulk, who is a character I never much liked, I really have enjoyed all of the MCU stuff. No doubt a big part of it is that I am totally the target audience for these movies and shows. I literally grew up with these characters having started reading them when I was 7 or 8 and even though I don't really read comics anymore (to much money) I still keep up with what goes on... So yeah all the in-references, the good translations of characters to the screen... I truly appreciate it all. Even times when Agents of Shield has had some pretty weak writing it has kept me coming back to see what's going to happen next. And I have never been disappointed by their movies so far. I wasn't disappointed by the Hulk, since I went in not expecting to like it and that was confirmed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 19 Apr 2015, 15:10
Yeah, the only reason I saw The Hulk was because it related to the other movies. I really liked him in The Avengers, but 1) it wasn't a standalone and 2) I like the actor better.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 20 Apr 2015, 01:06
I was always more of a DC guy until a few years back (that's a rant for another time that I am always repeating) but honestly, I am just a big fan of the world building.

Saying that, I think that after the first Avengers film, the bloom is off the rose, not because of quality, but because that was a leap into a joyous unknown that we never believed would really happen.

Now, though? Here's the twenty-odd films we're releasing over the next five years, including titles that are basically spoilers of everything that happens in all of them. Have a good one! Some of the joy is gone for me.

Also, I saw Guardians, and it's good fun, but I wouldn't put it on the same tier as Avengers at all.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 20 Apr 2015, 01:49
Also, I saw Guardians, and it's good fun, but I wouldn't put it on the same tier as Avengers at all.

There are two distinct levels of film in the MCU: The first tier are the main thread movies - Iron Man, Avengers and the like. The second tier is stuff like Guardians of the Galaxy that are mostly world-building (in the case of Guardians, the galaxy beyond Earth and the politics and ideologies that is forming the struggle that is beginning to affect Earth and threatens to engulf it).

There is also arguably a 'third tier' of movies. What is that about?
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Post by: Thrillho on 20 Apr 2015, 04:09
I know it's not an A-list movie at all (I knew literally none of the characters in it), my point was that I've heard people fellating its proverbial genitals all over the shop, and while yeah it's good I don't think it's amazing or anything.
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Post by: Aimless on 21 Apr 2015, 14:13
Seeing Avengers tomorrow, expecting to be a little disappointed
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Post by: Aimless on 22 Apr 2015, 11:45
Unfortunately I was kinda disappointed. The first movie had its flaws but, overall, it was thoroughly enjoyable. This movie had its high points, but, overall, it was kinda flawed. The intro wasn't all that good. The pacing was off, the use of tension was ineffective, the dialogue and acting both uninspired, the score was a little meh, the action was frequently kinda boring, etc etc. Ultron was, to my surprise, not a compelling villain, although it was a little funny seeing a robot version of Reddington. The Vision was all right, I guess. I liked the twins, on the whole. Character development and showcasing was a bit hit and miss, but Renner as Barton did the best job of it :) the budding romance between Romanoff and Banner had a lot of potential but they didn't really manage to do it justice. I have other specific complaints but I think I should stop before I ruin what little enjoyment I did get out of the movie. All in all, I'm glad I saw it but I'm also unusually glad I didn't have to pay full price. I didn't feel like the big screen added much to the experience.

Oh yeah, the Ant Man trailer made me less enthusiastic about that movie, while the Terminator trailer made me more enthusiastic. The post credits button was... well, it was a little shite.

That being said, I had to revise my opinion of Daredevil summat so that's good! The costume is crap but the episodes leading up to the end were really good and even D'Onofrio redeemed himself with his telling of the tale of the good samaritan :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 23 Apr 2015, 02:52
Here's a brief but interesting article (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32379661) about the rise of the MCU and its role in pretty much saving Marvel's bacon in financial terms.

The key name seems to be Avi Arad, the director of Marvel Studios and the man who seems to have forced Marvel to develop MCU against the judgement of the rest of the board. He seems to have been the man who came up with the ideas that made the MCU commercially viable in terms of licensing and production. Given the troubles of the major studios, I have no doubt that Universal, Paramount and Fox will be sniffing around if he even hints that he wants to move on from Marvel.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 23 Apr 2015, 07:34
Avi Arad moved away from Marvel Studios years ago. Last films he produced was Iron Man and Incredible Hulk.

What he's been working on the last years are such masterpieces as Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance and the Spider-Man reboot.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Apr 2015, 07:45
Well that's...disappointing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 24 Apr 2015, 07:56
So, I watched Age of Ultron yesterday. It was spectacular, but it had way too many characters and plot arcs to handle for just a little over two hours. The movie was so chock full of stuff that I find it hard to decide how much I actually liked it. This could actually have benefited from being a two part movie, I think. A lot of things felt rushed.

One thing I can say for sure, is that it was never going to live up the ridiculous hype I had built up for myself  :-D

I still think Winter Soldier is the best movie of Phase 2, but Age of Ultron definitively was a spectacular event movie. There's so much action and visuals that it almost felt tiring at points. Another reason this could have been a two part movie, giving it some more time to breathe. Props for giving Hawkeye some more spotlight tho. Also a pretty genre savvy movie, which is always great!


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Post by: BenRG on 26 Apr 2015, 12:24
Just came back from watching Age of Ultron and, honestly, I think that I was watching a different movie from all the reviewers that I've read so far. Maybe it's because I'm not an expert in the motion picture arts medium. Maybe I don't know what officially makes a good story but I liked it!

A nice balance between characterisation and action. The plan was always clear and the path was obvious. The surprises were nicely paced and I felt that the introduction of the new characters was done well.

One thing though - It isn't a stand-alone. Since the end of The Avengers, you need to have seen or at least be aware of the plot of the Phase 2 movies to understand what is going on. I suppose remembering when the Infinity Stones came around for the first time in the comics helps. I know exactly what those things are and what the stakes are here. I know exactly who Thanos is and what he wants. I suppose that it makes it easier for me to understand that broader thread and Age of Ultron's place in the development of this overall story.

Next up is CA3 - Civil War. I wonder if that will be where Chris Evans checks out of the MCU? He has said that he wants to focus on directing rather than acting.
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Post by: Edguy on 26 Apr 2015, 14:34
Ok, some spoiler discussion..

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Post by: BenRG on 26 Apr 2015, 15:23
Regarding Thor and the Infinity Stones:

Remember that Thor is an alien. Although the Asgard present themselves as gods on occasion, they are actually an ancient race space-travelling immortals. It's just that they use the Bifrost (space bridge) and other Clarketech pseudo-magic to get around rather than space-ships.

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So, finally, an MCU Phase 3 begins! A prediction:
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Post by: Edguy on 26 Apr 2015, 19:07
Regarding Thor and the Infinity Stones:

Remember that Thor is an alien. Although the Asgard present themselves as gods on occasion, they are actually an ancient race space-travelling immortals. It's just that they use the Bifrost (space bridge) and other Clarketech pseudo-magic to get around rather than space-ships.

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Post by: maxusy3k on 26 Apr 2015, 19:48
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Post by: Edguy on 26 Apr 2015, 20:32
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Right, I forgot about that part. So the Asgardians went to Knowhere..
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Post by: LeeC on 30 Apr 2015, 09:46
Jubliee and Jean Grey from X-Men Apocalypse.
(http://i.imgur.com/F138xsz.png)

Looks like late 80s early 90s.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 30 Apr 2015, 11:36
It's set somewhere in the '80s!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 30 Apr 2015, 12:03
"X-Men: Evolution - the Movie". You read it here first, ladies and gents!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 May 2015, 22:00
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Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2015, 14:51
"Puny God."
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Post by: Edguy on 02 May 2015, 15:08
I actually went and saw Age of Ultron a second time tonight, due to a different group of friends not having seen it yet, and I having nothing better to do. I think this is the first time ever I've seen a movie twice in theater.  8-)
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 02 May 2015, 20:02
I definitely enjoyed it, I'll probably be back tomorrow with a rundown of things I enjoyed about it
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 03 May 2015, 08:42
Stan Lee cameo:

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Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 May 2015, 13:53
Alright, here are my thoughts on it:
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 03 May 2015, 19:08
I was kind pissed that they didn't really have an end credit scene like all the other MCU movies, it was more of a 1/4-way-through-the-credits scene and thus felt like part of the main movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 May 2015, 19:44
There really wasn't an end-credits scene? I should leave after that mid-credits scene? (I'm seeing it tomorrow)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 03 May 2015, 20:23
There really wasn't an end-credits scene? I should leave after that mid-credits scene? (I'm seeing it tomorrow)

Yeah, there's only the obligatory mid-credit scene hinting about future events, no funny small post-credit scene.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 03 May 2015, 20:25
You're not the first person to tell me this, but I think I'm still going to stay until the end...just in case.
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Post by: Torlek on 03 May 2015, 22:10
Thus showing how Marvel has trained us better than Pavlov ever trained his dogs.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 03 May 2015, 23:19
Yeah you can leave after the bit
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I was surprised, I can't remember any other MCU film that didn't do the post credits scene but whatever.

I kind of feel like that is indicative of a somewhat lazier approach to this film. I enjoyed it (I've seen it twice and I'll probably go again) but I don't think it had the same spirit as the first one/earlier films. I think Whedon kind of phoned it in this time around and I'm half hoping he won't be involved in future films.


Ali note: Spoilers. :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2015, 05:30
God damn it, Jimmy, why would you say what it was?
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Post by: ChaoSera on 04 May 2015, 07:46
Come on, it's not like it was that big of a surprise. He didn't even say what exactly happen.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 May 2015, 08:37
It's still a brand new film. Some people like to go into it not knowing the secrets.
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Post by: ChaoSera on 04 May 2015, 08:44
True, but still
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Post by: Edguy on 04 May 2015, 11:48
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 04 May 2015, 13:23
And now we need another spoiler tag.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2015, 16:49
Ok, saw it, liked it, and can't really add anything that hasn't been said. Good times!
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2015, 17:47
Major Spoilers:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 04 May 2015, 18:30
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Post by: Edguy on 05 May 2015, 11:31
Martin Freeman Joins Marvel's "Captain America: Civil War"! (http://marvel.com/news/movies/24562/martin_freeman_joins_marvels_captain_america_civil_war)

Man, I really like Martin Freeman. Hope they don't waste the guy on some boring government guy, or something like that, that they need for the Civil War plot.

Fingers crossed that it's a recurring character, and that he shows up in Doctor Strange!
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Post by: Lines on 05 May 2015, 16:20
If he shows up in Doctor Strange, I will laugh because that'd be pretty awesome. Freeman/Cumberbatch for all the fandoms.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 05 May 2015, 17:41
I may have given a little squee.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 06 May 2015, 01:53
God damn it, Jimmy, why would you say what it was?

Shit. Sorry, wasn't thinking.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 May 2015, 07:23
It's ok. Could've been worse.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 07 May 2015, 13:56
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/255fd028bcc229597bb6892a06b3f0d3/tumblr_nnfcwnl9Cx1tavhmqo1_500.jpg)
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Remember when Quicksilver was friends with Quicksilver and they both had dark curly hair and loved comic books.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 May 2015, 14:07
Hahaha, I totally didn't realize that the better Quicksilver was in Kick-Ass, too.

(Seriously though, is it even a debate? DoFP criminally underused him, but the Pentagon scene alone is enough to make him my favorite of the two.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 07 May 2015, 15:04
I dunno, was he any good? All everyone remember is his one stylistically cool scene, but was it a good character? He looked pretty terrible, that's pretty much all I can remember other than the one cool scene..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 May 2015, 16:44
Like I said, that one cool scene was enough to make him the better of the two, despite, you know, not being used at all for anything else. Kind of annoying, really, "hey, look how useful this guy is, if it weren't for him, Magneto and Xavier would be fucking dead (and Wolverine would be quite uncomfortable before getting up and killing everyone, but still). Let's send him home because if he were helping later, we'd win way too easily and quickly."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 07 May 2015, 20:47
Marvel Studios Begins Production on Marvel's "Captain America: Civil War" (http://marvel.com/news/movies/24586/marvel_studios_begins_production_on_marvels_captain_america_civil_war)

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“Captain America: Civil War” picks up where “Avengers: Age of Ultron” left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.

Any speculation on who the villain will be? I haven't read the comics, so I don't really know to what extent any famous villains take part in the Civil War arc.. I read that there's this Nitro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitro_(comics)) guy that's supposedly involved? Do you think they'll involve a villain to unite the opposing sides, or will the main conflic be between Rogers and Stark, and their respective followings? (And as a result possibly end on a sour note?!)

Haven't caught up on the second half of season 2 of SHIELD, so I don't know what they're doing with HYDRA, but given the events at the start of Age of Ultron, I assume HYDRA's part in the MCU is at it's end.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 07 May 2015, 21:57
Rumor has it (at least I don't think it's been confirmed yet) that Daniel Brühl will be playing Baron Zemo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Zemo) and we know that Crossbones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossbones_(comics)) will show up too. Frankly, given the cast breadth it almost feels like this one is mis-titled as a Captain America. The only Avengers not there are Thor and Hulk (although we get "Thunderbolt" Ross back so maybe a Red Hulk cameo?) and if they stay anywhere near the comic storyline it will completely change the dynamics of the franchise.

In other good news: Agent Carter renewed for a second season (http://io9.com/agent-carter-renewed-peggys-adventures-will-continue-1703015669)!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 May 2015, 00:23
I wonder if Steve dies in this Civil War as well?
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Post by: BenRG on 08 May 2015, 01:51
I wonder if Steve dies in this Civil War as well?

I wonder if that should be in a spoiler space!  :wink:

Seriously, though, Chris Evans has said that he wants to get out of acting and concentrate on directing. This may be the point where he bows out as an actor. IIRC, in the comics, Bucky (The Winter Soldier) takes over as Captain America at Nick Fury's suggestion after Steve's assassination and I wonder if they're setting up for that.

FWIW, I can see Robert Downey Jr being able to play Tony's reaction to Steve's assassination wonderfully. The fact that it would arguably be partially his fault would make it all the more dramatic and his subsequent dedication of his life to the Good Fight all the more heartfelt.
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Post by: Edguy on 08 May 2015, 02:01
Regarding the plot of Civil War:

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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 08 May 2015, 07:52
Even if they did kill off Steve Rogers in the films then they can either replace him with Winter Soldier like in the comics or with Falcon...like in the comics.

I do know that the last I'd heard, Chris Evans wasn't contracted for any more films after Cap 3 so that could be a direction they take it in. I'm interested to see what line-up we get in Infinity War given that Evans isn't contracted and there have been rumblings that RDJ is getting sick of playing Stark.
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Post by: ChaoSera on 08 May 2015, 08:11
If Downey doesn't play Stark anymore the movies will lose a considerable amount of appeal for me. I love that man, especially in this role.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 08 May 2015, 08:30
Eh, RDJ is starting to become Johnny Depp. I'm pretty sure by the time Infinity War rolls around, I wont miss him.
He wasn't even the top three funniest/best character in Age of Ultron, imo!
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 May 2015, 09:32
[...] Chris Evans wasn't contracted for any more films after Cap 3 [...]

That's what made me wonder.
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Post by: LeeC on 08 May 2015, 13:50
Random nerd question: Could Magneto manipulate Mjolnir?  :psyduck:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2015, 13:59
Yeah, I guess so. Also, is anyone else disappointed that:

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Post by: Schmee on 08 May 2015, 23:23
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Post by: ChaoSera on 09 May 2015, 02:46
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Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2015, 10:21
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Post by: Aimless on 09 May 2015, 16:09
No, that would have ruined it. More subtle and satisfying this way. The look on his face was priceless and also set things up very nicely for that later scene
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 May 2015, 06:09
I guess, I just wish they hadn't shown it in the trailer if they weren't planning on doing anything with it.
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Post by: Lines on 10 May 2015, 06:22
But they did. Just not with Cap.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 May 2015, 10:58
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/904b941cdab7017090963b6a95e92792/tumblr_n8z3gtiAXp1qajc4eo1_500.png)
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 May 2015, 11:02
I know it makes sense for Paul Bettany to play Vision, but I was kind of hoping they'd cast the guy who played the original Jarvis in Agent Carter.
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Post by: Welu on 10 May 2015, 14:32
I finally saw Age Of Ultron. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 May 2015, 05:31
I am pretty sure that Civil War is going to be the last film for both Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr. It's been pretty much talked all around that they want to move on, and things have been set up for the new group of Avengers in Phase 3. Nothing is ever set in stone of course, but I rather expect something serious to happen to Steve and either/both Winter Soldier and Falcon to step up in his place. Similarly with Tony, I can see him finally getting that his meddling in things only makes more problems and backing out of the super hero business for a while. Warmachine is already there to take his place.

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Plus we have all the new characters introduced in Phase 3. Black Panther and Captain Marvel will almost certainly be joining. Doctor Strange seems like an unlikely choice to join up permanently, but helping out against a cosmic-level threat? Yes, certainly. And add the fact that the Guardians will be joining the Avengers in the Infinity War... That's a huge cast and it needs some paring down.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2015, 06:58
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Post by: ChaoSera on 11 May 2015, 07:01
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Post by: BenRG on 11 May 2015, 07:05
My impression was that:
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Additionally:
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 May 2015, 07:49
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Post by: Edguy on 11 May 2015, 17:55
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Fantastic Four aren't back at Disney, that new movie is still produced by Fox.. Also I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they couldn't use the Skrulls (at least not without a hassle) because of their ties to the F4.
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Post by: Torlek on 11 May 2015, 21:03
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On the huge cast issue: I think we'll see the new Avenger team (plus the Phase 3 additions) in Infinity War Pt. I then the whole crew (Guardians included) will show up in Pt. II for a big throw down with Thanos. I fully anticipate a LOT of heroes to die in Pt. II, though given a fully powered Infinity Gauntlet should be involved death may just be a momentary inconvenience.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2015, 21:40
Is Ant-Man considered Phase 2, Phase 3, or not connected since it's a standalone?
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 12 May 2015, 02:15
I would guess that now that Age of Ultron has been released any subsequent MCU films, including Ant-Man will be a part of Phase 3. Also I'm pretty sure Ant-Man is not a stand-alone film. I'm pretty sure he's going to be featured/referenced in Cap 3 and Infinity War despite being a pretty small character by comparison (I am so proud of that).
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Post by: BenRG on 12 May 2015, 02:26
Ant Man (Hank Pym) and his eventual wife, the Wasp (Janet van Dyne), are both lifers in the comics-verse Avengers (original time-line and Ultimate). It would be odd if their MCU equivalents didn't at least make an appearance in Cap 3 and Infinity War.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2015, 06:08
Good point. I guess none of the movies are standalones, even if they don't show up in other movies they're still part of the universe.
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Post by: Edguy on 12 May 2015, 06:53
Is Ant-Man considered Phase 2, Phase 3, or not connected since it's a standalone?

I think it's the end of phase 2.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2015, 06:53
I've heard that, but it doesn't make sense. I thought the Avengers movies were always the end of phases.
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Post by: Edguy on 12 May 2015, 06:59
I've heard that, but it doesn't make sense. I thought the Avengers movies were always the end of phases.

Yeah, I think that was originally the plan, but supposedly they figured Ant-Man fit better as the end of phase 2 than the start of phase 3. My guess is that they want to start each phase with a big movie, and Civil War fits a lot better with that than Ant-Man.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2015, 07:12
That's...really strange. If anything, I'd think it'd make more sense to have Ant-Man be between phases, since having it start or end a phase is an odd choice.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 May 2015, 08:04
Well the phases are pretty vague anyway, not some hard cut off point where 'if you want to understand phase 3, you must watch these movies'. Each movie is building on the setting of the previous ones. It is, not coincidentally more like the set up with comics where there is some lead up to a big crossover event, then some clean up, but it all blends into existing story arcs in the individual books. Rather than say, three separate movies or books of a trilogy where there is a beginning, middle and end not only for the whole thing, but in each part as well.
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Post by: Detachable Felix on 12 May 2015, 23:08
I'm pretty sure he's going to be featured/referenced in Cap 3 and Infinity War despite being a pretty small character by comparison (I am so proud of that).
*rattles pun jar at Jimmy*
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Post by: ChaoSera on 13 May 2015, 02:48
Don't get antsy now.
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Post by: Aimless on 13 May 2015, 11:53
The Agents of SHIELD season 2 finale was better than the entire first season as well as Age of Ultron combined.

Well, all but the last scene. BASTARDS.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 May 2015, 12:01
It was a really awesome season finale. And they really did have some things happen towards the end that I just didn't see coming. And yeah, that last scene. My room mate had left the room so I called him back in a hurry to watch it. After it ran, we just stared at each other open mouthed for a few seconds before I said. "Well, I wasn't expecting that..."
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Post by: Masterpiece on 13 May 2015, 12:32
Really need to start watching Agents of Shield. Don't know if I should bother though.
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Post by: Aimless on 13 May 2015, 12:45
Season 2 is way WAY better than season 1, and it gets better for every episode.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 13 May 2015, 16:31
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Non-spoiler comment, does anyone else find the fact that they use periods in SHIELD stupid and unnecessary? You can have an acronym without them.

Edit: Just actually finished and OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 May 2015, 17:12
*stuffs Method in the pun jar*
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 May 2015, 17:16
No pun-shaming.
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Post by: Lines on 13 May 2015, 17:25
Really need to start watching Agents of Shield. Don't know if I should bother though.

I really like it. The first season starts off slow, but the second season is flipping fantastic.
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Post by: Welu on 14 May 2015, 12:45
I'm not going to get to watch it for a couple weeks. It's the only show that I'm currently following week to week and it adds to my enjoyment that way instead of downloading and watching the last few in a lump.

Although that's mainly because I'm watching it with someone. When I watch something alone I love binge-watching.
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 14 May 2015, 18:17
Edit: Just actually finished and OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK.

I knew that was going to happen, when Fitz says "oops", bad stuff follows.
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Post by: Lines on 14 May 2015, 19:43
Finally got around to watching it.

 :grumpypuss: :grumpypuss: :grumpypuss:

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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 May 2015, 02:06
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Post by: Edguy on 16 May 2015, 21:35
Matthew McConaughey has revealed that he has previously talked with both Marvel Studios and DC about starring in one of their upcoming films. (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/441085-matthew-mcconaughey-reveals-previous-talks-with-marvel-and-dc)

I'd absolutely love to see McConaughey in a Marvel movie, he's been great lately! I think he could make a good Norman Osborne/Green Goblin, if he'd be willing to go all out.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 16 May 2015, 21:39
Lol it's Matthew McConaughey, what do you mean "if"?
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Post by: Edguy on 16 May 2015, 21:58
Hey, he could have reservations playing a crazy goblin dude with lots of CGI- and/or makeup scenes, who knows  :-P
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Post by: Method of Madness on 16 May 2015, 22:03

Fair enough, I just can't see this dude having any reservations about anything. The only reason they put that in the movie is he was doing that anyway.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 21 May 2015, 22:04
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 25 May 2015, 12:01
Cap's not holding an American flag...and there's 2 right next to him :-\
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Post by: Edguy on 25 May 2015, 13:59
What a commie!
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Post by: Edguy on 26 May 2015, 20:02
Click this link to stop being sad and start being happy: https://youtu.be/mlniKjGS5b4?t=284 (https://youtu.be/mlniKjGS5b4?t=284)
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 Jun 2015, 19:39
Rumor has it Jason Statham might be Bullseye in Dardevil's second season
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Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Jun 2015, 20:03
Nice!
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Jun 2015, 01:14
I don't want a fucking cockney Bullseye.
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Post by: BenRG on 05 Jun 2015, 01:52
I don't want a fucking cockney Bullseye.

I thought Bullseye was Australian...? Oh, no, sorry, that's Boomerang, isn't it? Damn; keeping track of these B-list and lower Rogues is difficult! :-D
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Jun 2015, 02:02
Don't go calling Bullseye B-list! He was in the Dark Avengers and he's lethal.

Boomerang... is b-list. But I love 'im.
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Post by: Lines on 05 Jun 2015, 19:08
You have a Brit playing Daredevil.... Also he's a big step up from Colin Farrell, come on now. Especially if he doesn't have that stupid scar thingy on his forehead.
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Post by: Edguy on 05 Jun 2015, 20:09
Finally got around to to watching the second half of AoS s2. Could have been so much better if they'd turned the cheese level a couple magnitudes down, and not felt inclined to have these poorly choreographed hand-to-hand one-liner duels FIVE TIMES EVERY EPISODE. Also; everyone's every plan is incredibly stupid, always. Can't they just stop the incredibly obvious plot twists already? "Your ally is a bad guy" gets tiresome pretty quick. Also, "unimportant characters are useless cannon-fodder" is pretty annoying. I kinda struggle to have any respect for SHIELD then all their highly armed, well trained SWAT soldiers get their ass whopped by everyone and their grandma.

On the bright time there is about zero down time her, unlike s1, and a lot of the actors are pretty good for a cheese show like this(Cal, Hunter, Fitz & Simmons comes to mind). There's also a lot of interesting universe stuff happening, and that's mainly what makes me want to watch the next episode. Kinda intrigued to see where s3 goes.
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Post by: Thrillho on 08 Jun 2015, 01:30
You have a Brit playing Daredevil.... Also he's a big step up from Colin Farrell, come on now. Especially if he doesn't have that stupid scar thingy on his forehead.

1. We have a Brit playing Daredevil - with an American accent. I've never seen Statham even attempt an accent, I don't think he's got it in him to play anything other than 'YOU TOILET'-Cockney.

2. We do not speak of Farrell's awful Bullseye, so awful that it affected his comic incarnation at the time.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2015, 04:44
1. Statham's pretty much this generation's Sean Connery, he just sounds like Statham no matter who he plays, and that's ok.
2. I haven't seen Daredevil since theaters well over a decade ago, but I remember enjoying Farrell in that movie. Why the hate?
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Post by: Thrillho on 08 Jun 2015, 07:19
1. I don't agree that that's okay. Again - I do not want a Cockney Bullseye.

2. His performance wasn't really that bad, but the look of the character was awful and the script was bad.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jun 2015, 09:27
You say you don't want one...but not why not.
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Post by: Lines on 08 Jun 2015, 20:06
I don't really care for Farrell that much (mostly apathetic about him), but oh my GOD the costuming makeup for him was TERRIBLE. Yes, the script was bad, but I just did not want to look at the screen while he was on it because of that freaking scar. UGH. There were a lot of not great things about that movie, but that was by far the worst thing about it.
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 Jun 2015, 01:04
You say you don't want one...but not why not.

While there are a number of gritty British crime dramas with cockneys in that have villains that work perfectly well, the cockney accent is basically a jokey stereotype in the US, which is where the majority of this film's market will be, and it will turn someone who in the comics is terrifying and lethal into a joke. I don't mind if they make him some kind of foreign, or even a different kind of British, just not cockney.

Quite apart from which, I think Statham in particular lacks the acting chops to do Bullseye justice.
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Post by: Edguy on 09 Jun 2015, 03:13
Statham is a joke.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2015, 15:49
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1289956479296273189.png)
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Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Jun 2015, 15:54
Statham is a joke.
I remember liking him a lot in The Bank Job (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bank_Job). Then again, I haven't seen it in seven years.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 09 Jun 2015, 16:32
Rumor has it Jason Statham might be Bullseye in Dardevil's second season

Nevermind (http://comicsalliance.com/daredevil-season-2-jason-statham-bullseye-out/)
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 11 Jun 2015, 10:03
In related news, some dude will be playing the Punisher in s2 of Daredevil (http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/jon-bernthal-to-play-the-punisher-on-daredevil-season-2).
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 11 Jun 2015, 10:07
Ahem

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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Jun 2015, 10:14
Dogs can look up, but apparently squids can't :wow:
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 11 Jun 2015, 19:46
I never look back, darling. It distracts from the now.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Jun 2015, 19:50
Note to self: don't annoy Jimmy or he might conveniently forget to say "and guest".
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Post by: Edguy on 24 Jun 2015, 12:48
Spider-Man Confirmed For Captain America: Civil War (http://comicbook.com/2015/06/24/spider-man-confirmed-for-captain-america-civil-war/)

Huh, I hadn't even heard that the new Peter Parker was cast..
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Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Jun 2015, 21:15
Yeah, I thought it was going to be Ender.
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Post by: Edguy on 29 Jun 2015, 13:57
GotG2 title confirmed: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/454947-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2s-official-title-is#/slide/1)
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Post by: BenRG on 29 Jun 2015, 23:45
GotG2 title confirmed: Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/454947-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2s-official-title-is#/slide/1)

Well... they can't all be winners, I guess...
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Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jun 2015, 07:30
Yeah, not every title can Ragnarok you like a hurricane.
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Post by: Welu on 30 Jun 2015, 14:14
I like it.
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Post by: Edguy on 30 Jun 2015, 17:25
Yeah, not every title can Ragnarok you like a hurricane.
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/epicrapbattlesofhistory/images/8/89/500px-Oh-you-show.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150123021911)
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Post by: Edguy on 03 Jul 2015, 16:57
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Post by: Aimless on 06 Jul 2015, 04:45
Yeah, not every title can Ragnarok you like a hurricane.

Proposed theme song:
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 06 Jul 2015, 16:25
"Guitar sponsored by Mercedes Benz"
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Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jul 2015, 16:42
I always forget about Ant-Man existing (even recently) and then being pleasantly surprised when I remember it's coming out soon and looks delightful.
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Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 11 Jul 2015, 17:37
So I have very mixed feelings about Ant-Man's upcoming release. But whenever I start feeling negatively about it, I keep thinking that with Ant-Man added, there's a chance he and Hawkeye will execute their version of a Fastball Special during Civil War:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6-WvKDIQato/VXsH8fjHlWI/AAAAAAAAIS8/rtwG4AaA_Yk/s400/0neAHGT.gif)

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Post by: Blue Kitty on 12 Jul 2015, 04:20
Rumor out of Comicon is it that the next Wolverine movie is gonna be Old Man Logan, and supposedly straight from Hugh Jackman himself
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Post by: Lines on 12 Jul 2015, 08:15
So I have very mixed feelings about Ant-Man's upcoming release. But whenever I start feeling negatively about it, I keep thinking that with Ant-Man added, there's a chance he and Hawkeye will execute their version of a Fastball Special during Civil War:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6-WvKDIQato/VXsH8fjHlWI/AAAAAAAAIS8/rtwG4AaA_Yk/s400/0neAHGT.gif)

Uh. I really hope they do that!
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 12 Jul 2015, 18:44
A little blurry, but it looks nice
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Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 12 Jul 2015, 19:53
I'm super excited for Deadpool. And I didn't even realize Blind Al would be in it! I love Blind Al and miss her presence in the comics.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Jul 2015, 08:14
It looks funny to say the least. Hoping it will be good.  Also cool to see some mutants in it too. Maybe Wolvey will show up.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 15 Jul 2015, 11:23
I doubt it. Fox still has the rights to the X-Men in movies, last I heard. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were okay because they weren't called 'mutants', but I imagine that Wolverine would be too close.
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Post by: LeeC on 15 Jul 2015, 11:57
I doubt it. Fox still has the rights to the X-Men in movies, last I heard. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were okay because they weren't called 'mutants', but I imagine that Wolverine would be too close.

But, Deadpool is made by Fox. So he can actually be cannon with X-men. Seeing as the X-men movies are also made by Fox.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 15 Jul 2015, 13:48
Oh, is it? Ignore me, then.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 15 Jul 2015, 17:38
I read the script that got leaked a while back (it was amazing). Obviously they've changed things a bit since then but it looks like they've kept Colossus and added in Negasonic Teenage Warhead. I don't think Wolverine will be making an appearance though, or at least I hope not. I'm getting kind of sick of every X-Men film being a Wolverine vehicle.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Jul 2015, 17:47
If he does, I'm guessing it will be as a cameo during one scene. Since Hugh Jackman is getting pretty much done with playing the character, it seems unlikely he will have a big part. That and if he was in the movie,  he would have been in the trailer. They would not pass up that cross promotion.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 15 Jul 2015, 17:54
Eh, I dunno. They didn't tease his scene in First Class.

Either way I am cautiously optimistic about this film, enough to even give TJ Miller a pass (fuck that guy).
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Jul 2015, 18:05
Which is kind of why I am saying if Wolverine appears at all, it will be a one scene reference like they did with First Class.
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Post by: Blue Kitty on 15 Jul 2015, 18:40
Eh, I dunno. They didn't tease his scene in First Class.

Either way I am cautiously optimistic about this film, enough to even give TJ Miller a pass (fuck that guy).

After what happened in Wolverine: Origins I really hope they do right by Deadpool, but I won't be surprised if they really fuck it up. CAUTIOUS OPTIMISM HO!!!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jul 2015, 19:14
Ok, has the Deadpool version been actually put online yet? (As opposed to someone filming the video with a phone)
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 15 Jul 2015, 23:46
Not that I know of. Most of my knowledge comes from having read the leaked script (which I lost when my old laptop died) and the SDCC phone trailer.
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Post by: LeeC on 16 Jul 2015, 03:32
Ok, has the Deadpool version been actually put online yet? (As opposed to someone filming the video with a phone)
Nope, Fox is waiting for like 2 weeks for when they release the trailer in theaters from what I've been told.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jul 2015, 05:50
Fuck! Ant-Man apparently had a second credits scene, but I'd left because it was super late (after midnight with work the next day) and fucking AoU didn't have one so I didn't think this one did. I know, partly my fault for leaving but mostly AoU's fault because how the fuck did that not have one.
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Post by: Edguy on 19 Jul 2015, 08:34
Been watching Daredevil, just finished episode 10..
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jul 2015, 08:49
I haven't watched it since it came out, so I don't know what exactly you're talking about. What'd he do?
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Post by: Lines on 19 Jul 2015, 09:11
Edguy, just continue. It doesn't persist through the rest of the season and it's definitely worth finishing.

Method:
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Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jul 2015, 09:14
Oh, that?

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Post by: Edguy on 19 Jul 2015, 09:50
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Post by: Lines on 19 Jul 2015, 16:43
Eh, I disagree, but I don't really have problems with people who react to things that way. But my job is to handle temper tantrums, so...  :-)
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Post by: Edguy on 20 Jul 2015, 01:52
I'm getting flashbacks from Arrow every time someone says "this city". Which is a lot.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jul 2015, 04:05
YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY.
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Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 20 Jul 2015, 04:07
Fuck! Ant-Man apparently had a second credits scene, but I'd left because it was super late (after midnight with work the next day) and fucking AoU didn't have one so I didn't think this one did. I know, partly my fault for leaving but mostly AoU's fault because how the fuck did that not have one.

Not to rub it in or anything but the second post-credits scene was pretty good. Also, I kind of feel like if you don't stay for the whole thing then you aren't really committed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jul 2015, 04:27
That's a fucking low blow and you know it.

And I'm still confused and annoyed that they didn't have a proper post-credits scene for AoU but had a second one for Ant Man of all things. Sure, it either ends phase 2 or starts phase 3*, but still, it's less significant a movie than its predecessor.

*I don't care what Marvel says, I still say it starts phase 3, even moreso after seeing it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 21 Jul 2015, 07:13
In the end I guess it doesn't matter how we see the importance of the individual films. Like, I get where you're coming from, I know a bunch of people who won't watch say, any of the Captain America films because they "don't like the character" (granted these people don't know what they're talking about but whatever). Marvel are very obviously taking the approach that each film is a chapter in a larger story. More and more each film is containing references and allusions to the other films that you're outright going to miss if you haven't seen. I guess whether there are two post credit scenes or one will be up to the individual directors.  At this stage I'd say always assume there are two and worst case scenario is that you wasted five minutes of your life that you likely would have wasted anyway.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Jul 2015, 08:22
No, that's not it at all. I've seen all the movies/shows and love the connected universe. But I already knew I fucked up by leaving early, I was objecting to you rubbing it in.  Also I had a reasonable expectation of only one because AoU set that precedent. Still, not a mistake I plan to make again.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 22 Jul 2015, 14:37
YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY.

WE BUILT THIS CITY
(ON ROCK'N'ROLL)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 22 Jul 2015, 15:08
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 26 Jul 2015, 20:35
I finally saw it today and it was pretty great. Definitely one of the funnier movies in the series, which we need now and then. Agreeing that the villain was super creepy. Stoll did a great job. I hope Rudd gets involved with more scripts in the series. I didn't know he has been until the credits rolled, but it showed and I liked it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Orkboy on 28 Jul 2015, 00:00
Saw Ant-Man yesterday.  It was a good movie, and the action was fantastic, but the human elements felt a bit ham-handed.  Sort of like "hey, this is important, so we will tell you that it is important."  Overall, a good flick, but it suffers the problem of all Marvel movies in that it is not The Avengers. 
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Jul 2015, 03:16
So. Who else is sick of the sheer writhing mass that is the MCU? There is just so. much. shit. The initial run up to Avengers Assemble was so perfect, and I've only seen a couple of the films since, but I feel like I don't even want to, there's just too much of it. I would just see the big ones, but I feel like you need to see the little ones to truly get everything out of the big ones and then it's just like having five things I want to watch on Netflix and so deciding to watch nothing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 28 Jul 2015, 03:44
So. Who else is sick of the sheer writhing mass that is the MCU?

I agree that MCU are getting greedy with the number of spin-offs and only semi-related new films being proposed. It would have been better if they'd remained focussed entirely on the core character group and the main story thread and not succumbed to the temptation to tack on a set of Squirrel Girls to rake in more cash.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 28 Jul 2015, 05:29
As someone who is aware of a lot of the source material these films, even the lesser known ones, are based on, I feel pretty good about these films (not that I'm reading every comic out there, but I keep an eye on what's coming out and will check out the wiki pages of stuff I don't know much about.). That said, while I think you don't necessarily have to watch every single film to be able to enjoy the Main Events (so to speak) you do probably get more out of those experiences. I can completely understand how a lot of it may seem at best overwhelming and at worst unnecessary and bloated.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Jul 2015, 05:36
Not me, considering that the phase 2 movies were (with the exception of Iron Man 3/Avengers 2) as good or better than their phase 1 counterparts.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 28 Jul 2015, 06:42
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Jul 2015, 07:07
I disagree with this idea. There aren't to many spin offs, and nothing is semi-related. I believe it was always the plan to have an evolving Avengers roster, because that's the way the comic worked. Unlike other groups like the Fantastic Four, there hasn't always been a 'core group'. The membership fluctuated all the time as people have active memberships, then go off for a while to maybe return later, or go join other groups. It's always been Marvel's 'anthology group'. Where pretty much anybody can be a member, eventually.

We had the founding members and all of their movies in phase 1 and 2. By the end of Age of Ultron though most of the team had split and gone their own ways, leaving replacements behind. Now we've got the phase 2/3 movies like Ant-Man, Black Panther and Captain Marvel who are all going to be joining the Avengers in time for the big showdown with Thanos. The only movie so far that on the surface seems out of place is Guardians of the Galaxy, but we know that ties very strongly with the overall storline that's been going from the start with Thanos and the Infinity Gems. To be honest the only movie or character I've seen so far that I can't place directly in relation to the overall    storyline and makes me wonder 'why are they doing this' is Doctor Strange.

Are there a lot of characters? Sure. That's the Avengers for you. They've had even more character than the thousand different X-Men books over the years. But whether they fit within the seperate arcs or the overall story all of the characters and movies so far have fit neatly into place.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Jul 2015, 07:16
Which idea? There being too much shit going on? Because that was my only idea, I wasn't suggesting they weren't all going to be well written or well made, just that I'm reaching burnout with it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Jul 2015, 12:24
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 28 Jul 2015, 14:24
@MoM

"I am Gingerbread!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 28 Jul 2015, 19:51
Well, The Avengers are very comparable to The Justice League. It starts out with a small group and then basically it becomes ever superhero ever. I feel like this can work better with something like, say, Justice League Unlimited, where the episodes are short and in a much more condensed time frame.

That said, I am enjoying the movies and I know I'll be sad when they're over. Mostly because I feel like finally we're getting some really good superhero movies and I don't want that to stop. (I never watched Man of Steel and I feel very little excitement about the DC movies right now.)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 28 Jul 2015, 21:37
Let's just hope they don't wind up becoming the Justice Lords
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 28 Jul 2015, 23:45
Let's just hope they don't wind up becoming the Justice Lords

Two words: Civil War.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Jul 2015, 08:59
Let's just hope they don't wind up becoming the Justice Lords

Two words: Civil War.

Eh, that was really more an ideological difference between the pro- and anti- registration heroes. The Justice Lords thing was 'We're better than everyone else, so we're in charge. If you don't like it, we'll kill you because we can.' That's a much bigger and darker turn than Civil War was. With the way the DCCU is shaping up though, I wouldn't be surprised if they touched on that a bit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 02 Aug 2015, 20:05
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 02 Aug 2015, 21:28
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 04 Aug 2015, 20:54
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Seriously, Blue Kitty, that was the best use of the spoiler tag I've seen yet.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 05 Aug 2015, 04:19
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 13 Aug 2015, 16:24
I finally got to watch Ant-Man, and it was hilarious! Probably the funniest MCU movie so far. Michael Pena plays a "funny guy" character, the type that often gets really annoying, but he was actually really funny. The film, imo, got away with many jokes/funny moments that very easily could have been cringy or annoying. The action was also surprisingly entertaining.

In other words, yet another good MCU movie!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Aug 2015, 20:13
Michael Pena is an insanely good actor. It's not Marvel, but I can't remember End of Watch enough, it's IMO his and Jake Gylenhaal's best movie. (I think it was one of the last movies Ebert ever reviewed, he gave it four stars)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 22 Aug 2015, 11:36
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 29 Aug 2015, 19:53
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Aug 2015, 04:24
...Is that meant to be Scarlett next to Renner?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 30 Aug 2015, 06:25
...Is that meant to be Scarlett next to Renner?

Nope; Kate/Agent 13, I think.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2015, 21:46
So...how about Agents of SHIELD? Anyone watching this season?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 29 Oct 2015, 00:38
So...how about Agents of SHIELD? Anyone watching this season?

One person I know who used to be a fan has stopped watching it saying that the Inhumans arc was 'too silly'. Learn from that what you will.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Oct 2015, 07:59
I watch and and enjoy it, Inhumans and all. That is one of Shields mandates after all, dealing with the stuff traditional spy agencies aren't equipped to deal to deal with. And in the Marvel universe that generally means super powered threats and super science criminal groups like Hydra and Aim. My biggest gripe is that the show constantly has everyone involved with the Ward plotline juggling the idiot ball. And that the plotline still continues at all.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 29 Oct 2015, 09:03
Hasn't come to the UK yet and I want to wait for it. I like the weekly ritual.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 22 Nov 2015, 13:49
Really enjoying Jessica Jones so far, more than Daredevil tbh although DD had better action.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 22 Nov 2015, 20:05
Daredevil had me going "Holy shit!" way too often with its police brutality. Like, daaaaaamn, they killed everyone.

Jessica Jones was way more psychological in its description of violence, which I found more enjoyable. It also didn't have that hugely disappointing last episode that Daredevil had. And DAMN, could David Tennant have been any better? He's such a fucking creep. Such a great performance.

I must say, I like the more M for Mature thing the TV series have in contrast to the movies. There's a disgustingly graphic portrayal of characters in their last breath after having both their arms cut off. They don't show that shit on TV. And the sex, the sex in Jessica Jones is so good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2015, 17:40
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Also I didn't know David Tennant was in it, so that was a cool surprise when they showed him. And agreed, he was really good. Overall not sure if I like it as much as Daredevil, but it's close.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 25 Nov 2015, 03:43
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 25 Nov 2015, 04:32
Thats...thats the general from the Ed Norton incredible hulk movie!!!! Full circle!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 25 Nov 2015, 08:43
I think this looks like what the last Avengers movie should have been!

Also:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 25 Nov 2015, 09:29
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 30 Nov 2015, 01:36
I liked Jessica Jones as a whole, esp. the final third. This was mostly due to the awesome supporting cast and the overall story (minus the bits where people were being extra dumb). The action sequences aren't as satisfying as they were in Daredevil, but the story's more interesting and the villain way way better. The Daredevil tie-in towards the end was just really bad. I wish they hadn't done that because it was so awkward and the dialogue so lame and stilted.

I gotta admit I didn't really like Ritter's acting. Wasn't a big fan of Luke either. Still, I'll watch anything the Marvel/Netflix collaboration gives us :o
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Nov 2015, 17:34
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Post by: LeeC on 30 Nov 2015, 18:31
Me and Dr. Fiancee are halfway through Jesica Jones.  It is amazing!!!  There is a real sense of Danger that I feel even the avengers couldn't handle except maybe 
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The Cast is amazing!  Each with their own little story going on in each episode.  Also I actually like Luke so far.  :-P

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Nov 2015, 18:41
Wait, why do people not like Luke?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 30 Nov 2015, 19:53
Sweet Christmas.

I rather enjoyed the series! No, it's not as action oriented as Daredevil, but I kind of feel like that's more because Daredevil is shown to be a trained fighter and Jessica Jones not so much. (Her fight scenes were clunky, so I just figured they didn't want to make her seem trained.) Also I liked Luke.

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Killgrave is also one of the best villains ever and I think it's entirely because of Tennant playing such an amazing psycho/sociopath. He was by far the best thing about the show.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 01 Dec 2015, 12:03
I loved Luke's interaction with the Purple Man in the New Avengers
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 01 Dec 2015, 16:59
That is awesome.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 02 Dec 2015, 04:55
Civil war:
(http://i.imgur.com/zKwksKf.jpg)

Spiderman webbing?????!!!!  Please do not disappoint Tom Holland!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 02 Dec 2015, 06:06
I thought it was pretty much a given/announced that Spider-man is appearing in Civil War? They cut a deal with Sony allowing them to use him in their movies and he was pretty central to the comic book version of the story.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 02 Dec 2015, 15:56
I know the answer is "because money," but I still don't understand why Spider-Man needs to be shoehorned into the MCU--especially since this'll be the third version of Spider-Man in 15 years.  If anything, I think a live-action TV show would be better.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2015, 18:44
He never should've been excluded in the first place, but I still see your point, and honestly a Netflix show would probably be much better than whatever they give him to do in Civil War.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 02 Dec 2015, 18:56
Especially since Marvel wanted a very young Spider-Man, and a TV show would give Tom Holland more time to play young high school-aged Peter Parker before "aging out" of the role.  Not that he can't age, it's just that being a teenager is kinda Spidey's thing, innit?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Dec 2015, 20:21
...why, though?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 02 Dec 2015, 23:41
Especially since Marvel wanted a very young Spider-Man, and a TV show would give Tom Holland more time to play young high school-aged Peter Parker before "aging out" of the role.  Not that he can't age, it's just that being a teenager is kinda Spidey's thing, innit?

Not a reader of superhero comics myself, but I was under the impression that Spiderman hasn't been a teenager in the comics for decades.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 03 Dec 2015, 01:01
No way they could do Spider-man justice on a TV budget tho. I cringe to think how the special effects would look there..
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Dec 2015, 04:45
Have you not seen Flash/Arrow or the Netflix Marvel shows? The answer is "surprisingly good".
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 03 Dec 2015, 08:32
Honestly I think we're in a good place for television superheroics on the level of Spiderman. It would not be as cheesy as their attempts decades ago. While most of the live action super hero shows lately have been pretty down to earth, well trained normals or people who have easy to show super powers like 'able to bounce bullets and lift cars'. However, some villains and secondary characters and the Flash himself show that there is potential for a weekly superhero television show that doesn't look terrible.

The problem more lies in the confusing rights, interest and permissions of Spiderman. I think that Sony still holds the rights to all video representation of the Spider Man character and related characters. And they have no real interest in doing anything with it other than putting out movies to fulfill their minimum requirements on the contract that gives them the right to keep the character from going back to Marvel Studios. It's surprising to me that they are letting Marvel use him for the Avengers film franchise. But I think we won't see any kind of live television show until such time Marvel manages to pry the rights fully back from Sony.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Dec 2015, 12:44
Especially since Marvel wanted a very young Spider-Man, and a TV show would give Tom Holland more time to play young high school-aged Peter Parker before "aging out" of the role.  Not that he can't age, it's just that being a teenager is kinda Spidey's thing, innit?

Not a reader of superhero comics myself, but I was under the impression that Spiderman hasn't been a teenager in the comics for decades.

I think a storyline a few years ago kicked him back to his teenager default age.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Dec 2015, 17:50
It's surprising to me that they are letting Marvel use him for the Avengers film franchise.
Not that surprising, if memory serves they still are the ones making the Spider-Man movies, and are allowed to use MCU characters in those movies.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Dec 2015, 13:39
It's such a shame I already know Jessica Jones is going to end up with an overdose in some dump in Alberquerque.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Dec 2015, 13:41
Jessica would be the one who knocks but she always breaks the door when she tries.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ChaoSera on 30 Dec 2015, 13:30
Just watched Winter Soldier for the first time yesterday, it kinda went past me when it came out. It confused me that Black Widow looked so different compared to Avengers, even though it's still Scarlett Johansson. Longer hair and a lighter shade of red. Confusing. In the beginning I wondered if it was a different actress.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Dec 2015, 13:32
Is it just me, or was Ant Man by far the better of the two 2015 Marvel movies?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 03 Jan 2016, 09:55
Just watched Winter Soldier for the first time yesterday, it kinda went past me when it came out. It confused me that Black Widow looked so different compared to Avengers, even though it's still Scarlett Johansson. Longer hair and a lighter shade of red. Confusing. In the beginning I wondered if it was a different actress.

We've been sort of marathoning them and her hairstyles are different in every movie, except that they're the most similar in the two Avengers movies. Women change their hair. A lot. Yes, she's a character, but it's a thing women do.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ChaoSera on 04 Jan 2016, 05:38
Fair enough. I guess I was mostly confused because the Avengers movies were the two I watched most recently and hair style is mostly the same in those.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 06 Jan 2016, 08:42
I really didn't like Ant Man that much.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jan 2016, 19:43
I wouldn't call it amazing but I thought it was a lot of fun, while finding AoU to be a pretty big disappointment.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 08 Jan 2016, 10:40
Neither AoU or Ant-Man are the best Marvel movies, but I agree that Ant-Man is definitely one of the more fun movies. And I reeeeally want Michael Peña to come back for another movie because he was one of my favorite things about it.

Having rewatched it, I feel like AoU was basically a set up for Civil War and introducing The Vision and that's kind of it. I felt like Ultron was pretty flat, but not because of Spader (who was awesome at voicing him), but because he didn't get a good enough set up for why he was doing what he was doing. I dunno. The other movies have flowed better and that one didn't. It's still a good hero movie, but the other Marvel movies have been so good it just sticks out I guess.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 10 Jan 2016, 00:43
Just watched Winter Soldier for the first time yesterday, it kinda went past me when it came out. It confused me that Black Widow looked so different compared to Avengers, even though it's still Scarlett Johansson. Longer hair and a lighter shade of red. Confusing. In the beginning I wondered if it was a different actress.

We've been sort of marathoning them and her hairstyles are different in every movie, except that they're the most similar in the two Avengers movies. Women change their hair. A lot. Yes, she's a character, but it's a thing women do.

Also her hair changes styles several times throughout Iron Man 2 and that's just one film. It's hardly confusing.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 15 Feb 2016, 15:25
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ChaoSera on 17 Feb 2016, 02:45
Holy crap, the beginning of that trailer might just as well be for a Horror Movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 Feb 2016, 07:15
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 20 Feb 2016, 10:08
I don't get it, what's he trying to say?

Also, "Butt buddy"? For reals?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Feb 2016, 10:14
Is it stranger than "bosom buddy"?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 20 Feb 2016, 10:33
"Bussom buddy" is less likely to be used by homophobic 14 year olds.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 25 Feb 2016, 18:21
Iron Fist has been cast (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/25/finn-jones-iron-fist)

Finn Jones is the guy that plays Ser Loras Tyrell in GoT. Iron Fist is the other part of the "Superheroes for Hire"-duo, with Luke Cage.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 10 Mar 2016, 09:25
Oh...fuck!

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Mar 2016, 12:45
HOW DO THE EYES WORK?!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 10 Mar 2016, 12:53
HOW DO THE EYES WORK?!
I'm assuming its a neural interface that allows him to zoom in his vision...maybe something Tony put together for him.

I like what they're doing with crossbones.  :-D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Mar 2016, 13:10
Is it just me, or is Hawkeye shooting an arrow amidst everyone else's stuff more "we're not sure why Hawkeye's here" than ever?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Mar 2016, 16:16
HOW DO THE EYES WORK?!
I'm assuming its a neural interface that allows him to zoom in his vision...maybe something Tony put together for him.

I like what they're doing with crossbones.  :-D

Didn't they do the same thing with Deadpool?

(http://57.media.tumblr.com/795081df7c9da943ade60d2c75c352f2/tumblr_o3u41ttGgI1s2jfn0o1_1280.gif)

Just watched the trailer and man Spider-man's voice is underwhelming
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 10 Mar 2016, 16:54
Bigger picture of suit:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Mar 2016, 19:47
Just watched the trailer and man Spider-man's voice is underwhelming
I think that's intentional. He's a kid, after all.

Edit: Also, this

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 11 Mar 2016, 01:17
Yay for unrealistic spider man! I just don't get why they're going that route, seeing as they went with "hyperrealism" for the rest of the Mcu.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 11 Mar 2016, 01:19
"It worked for Deadpool, it can work here!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 11 Mar 2016, 02:16
I think Civil War was in production for far longer than Deadpool.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Mar 2016, 04:24
Yay for unrealistic spider man! I just don't get why they're going that route, seeing as they went with "hyperrealism" for the rest of the Mcu.
Wait, how is Spider-Man any less realistic than...anything in the MCU?
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 11 Mar 2016, 07:58
Yay for unrealistic spider man! I just don't get why they're going that route, seeing as they went with "hyperrealism" for the rest of the Mcu.

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To be fair, Spider-man has always been an unrealistic character, even by comic standards. Ever see some of the poses he pulls off in the comics? Anyone else and they'd probably have a broken back.

But let's just look at some other parts of the MCU:
Tony Stark gets caught in an explosion, gets shrapnel near his heart and kidnapped by terrorists. Makes a suit of power armour in a cave with a box of scraps and what looked like a Windows 98 computer.
Steve Rogers, goes from scrawny runt to Olympic level human thanks to what was essentially steroids and radiation.
Bruce Banner, has anger management issues, got exposed to radiation, turns into a 10 foot green ball of rage.
Matt Murdock, gets blinded by chemicals and gets sonar-like powers, becomes a Hell's Kitchen ninja.

In most instances, those characters would be left incredibly ill or even dead.

While Marvel has always been somewhat more realistic than say DC, hyper-realism doesn't really apply to the MCU.

That said, when I saw Spider-man in the trailer, I was asking myself why the hell did it look like they raided the costume department for the 70s Spider-man tv show.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 11 Mar 2016, 08:01
If there's one thing the last Amazing Spider-Man movie got right, it was the costume!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Mar 2016, 08:21
Matt Murdock, gets blinded by chemicals and gets sonar-like powers, becomes a Hell's Kitchen ninja.

At the same time, some sewer-dwelling turtles become exposed to the same chemicals and become ninjas.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 11 Mar 2016, 08:58
(http://i.imgur.com/ITTO7P1.jpg)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ChaoSera on 11 Mar 2016, 11:53
Daredevil Season 2, coming March 18 to Netflix. Not much longer, people!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Mar 2016, 12:01
It's not so much that the Spider-suit is unrealistic I think.. I mean.. c'mon. That's not an argument that needs to be brought up. It's that it's style is very different from the rest of the characters. MCU costume design has been toned down versions of their comics costumes for the most part. Less primary colors, more sensible looking. Spidey's costume was pulled straight out of comic. So the difference is jarring, and off-putting to some. Basically it looks like someone grabbed the costume from another set of another movie. Maybe they'll offer some explanation. Or maybe they'll just do it because Spidey is supposed to be different from the Avengers. Or maybe it's a contract thing with Sony that he has to look like that to match the next Spider-man movie they make.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 11 Mar 2016, 12:02
I'm willing to bet its to keep with Sony's reboot image since Tom Holland is in that one too.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 13 Mar 2016, 13:03
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 13 Mar 2016, 13:12
I wish I could 'like' posts in this forum. This photomanip deserves it, both for humour and for getting J J Jameson's likely reaction pretty much spot on.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Mar 2016, 11:21
Anyone watching season two of Daredevil?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 19 Mar 2016, 11:32
Yes and loving it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Mar 2016, 11:36
Same.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Mar 2016, 16:17
I'm still waffling between watching it or finishing Jessica Jones first
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 19 Mar 2016, 19:35
Finish JJ and then start DD. I just finished the 3rd episode and there has been a small reference to JJ. Nothing huge or spoiler-ish, but still. Also the ending to JJ is so good.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 19 Mar 2016, 20:04
Season 2 of Daredevil is like a hundred times better than Season 1 and Jessica Jones combined. Only halfway through but I don't expect to change my mind
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 23 Mar 2016, 14:35
Okay, so I loved the first half, but disliked the second half very very much.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Mar 2016, 17:29
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 23 Mar 2016, 19:04
It is getting increasingly harder to stop watching episodes. Like, we've been watching an episode or three for the past few nights and we're almost done and it's hard not just watching them all. This season is so freaking good.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 24 Mar 2016, 19:20
Finished the last episode. I want more. T-T
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 24 Mar 2016, 19:41
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Wasn't my favourite scene but it was cool, not as cool as the stairwell fight sequence though and obv it was tainted by the association with the one who shall not be named :o
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Mar 2016, 20:45
I had no issue with his appearance.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 29 Mar 2016, 22:14
It has just been confirmed here on the News that Tika Waititi is helming the next Thor film

Hang on to your hats boys!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Apr 2016, 22:16

"Sorry we're not doing a Black Widow movie.  Here's Benedict Cumberbatch being all mystical and shit instead."
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 13 Apr 2016, 04:18
IT LOOKS SO GOOD! Like the Matrix with magic!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ChaoSera on 13 Apr 2016, 05:07
I love this so much! FINALLY a trailer that doesn't already take away so much of the story.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Apr 2016, 06:28
It looks good, it should be interesting... But all the way through the trailer I was thinking "They're doing his origin story? Again? I thought they said they were done with doing origin stories for their movies."  There's not necessarily anything wrong with origins... but for Doctor Strange that would tend to take him far out of the MCU world building as his stuff tends to be way outside the normal marvel universe goings on. And as someone who's been a long fan of comics in general... I'm getting tired of movie makers taking the easy route out and re-doing the same story that's already been done to death. Strange may not have appeared in media as much as say, Spiderman or the Fantastic Four... But when you get down to it, he really doesn't have a complex origin story for such a weird and out there character. Arrogant surgeon gets in a car wreck, has his hands ruined. He searches the world increasingly desperate for someone who can fix him, and winds up eventually at a Tibetan monastery. Instead of healing him though, they train him in magic and make him the new Sorcerer Supreme, guarding the dimension from magical threats... 10-15 minute flashbacks for an explanation, tops.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 13 Apr 2016, 06:35
Anyone else see the animated version of the origin story that came out like 10 years ago?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Apr 2016, 06:42
I own the DVD, yeah.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 13 Apr 2016, 06:48
I am going in this assuming its the same story.  I hope they show magic as mind blowing as the trailer is.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 14 Apr 2016, 09:01
Civil War reviews are out!
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 14 Apr 2016, 10:09
That rottentomatoes link... isn't.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 14 Apr 2016, 10:14
lol wtf, guess i pasted the wrong link (https://www.instagram.com/p/BELXB1CnxGC/)  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 14 Apr 2016, 18:47
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 15 Apr 2016, 00:26
I hate to be a pain, Edguy, but, ah... yeah. About that link you changed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 15 Apr 2016, 02:41
Uhm, formating is hard i guess
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 27 Apr 2016, 14:36
So I saw Civil War today :o

Awesome things:

- Excellent action, esp. fight-choreography. This movie sets a new standard for superhero-movie action.

- Great supporting cast, esp. Sam & Redwing, Scott and a certain someone (you know who) :o Clint and Wanda were great too.

- Portrayal of relationships between all the characters.

- Ant-Man. Yes, he gets another mention for being awesome. The other guy as well.

Okay things:

- Script, esp. wrt the different ways of looking at the movie's take on the Superhero Registration Act

- Black Panther

- Vision

- Airport-scene was very cool but the setting was just so extremely dull.

Disappointing things:

- Didn't come close to reaching the bar set by Winter Soldier for proper build-up of and use of suspense and dramatic tension.

- Intro was simultaneously cool and a little boring.

- Everything that was intended to be funny was funny, but some of it was poorly timed (esp. disappointing in combination with the problems with suspense-building).

- Mid-credits scene was kinda crappy. Final post-credits scene kinda made me squee :)

- No Nick Fury.

Things that sucked:

- Shaky-cam (really did a disservice to the excellent fight-choreography). This was just the worst.

- Daniel Brühl

Most squee parts:

- Trip to
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- That part with the guys in the car :D

Biggest problems:

- Too many characters for one movie.

- Lacking (imo) in suspense and tension.

- Not a very compelling villain. Common problem in MCU and in this case it could have been mitigated by turning up the dials a little on the hero-vs-hero storyline.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Apr 2016, 21:09
Thor damn it, why do we have to wait another nine days?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: ChaoSera on 28 Apr 2016, 02:14
Completely agree with Aimless' points, but I still loved the movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 28 Apr 2016, 06:36
Going to see it tonight!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 28 Apr 2016, 08:48
Completely agree with Aimless' points, but I still loved the movie.

I loved it too :o :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 29 Apr 2016, 16:08
I really enjoyed Civil War. It was a lot of characters but I thought they were better balanced than in Avengers 2. I liked the setting of the airport because it meant they could go for it without worrying about civilians.

Also I just fucking love Bucky.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 29 Apr 2016, 20:59
Biggest problems:

- Too many characters for one movie.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere that the studios nicknames for Winter Soldier and Civil War were Avengers 1.5 and 2.5, because more than Thor or Iron Man, the Captain America films are more codas to tie up little plot threads.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 01 May 2016, 10:31
Just got back from watching Civil War and the only thing that comes to my mind is that it has the feel of a classical Tragedy in the inevitability of disaster driven by ego, pride, friendship and misapplied but honest ideals.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2016, 04:37
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 02 May 2016, 15:01
Meh, Bart and Lisa are rank amatures

It's more like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4WGQmWcrbs
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 03 May 2016, 09:23
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And yet I can imagine Thor acting like Homer in the follow up to that scene.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 03 May 2016, 13:33
Watched Jessica Jones and Daredevil. Enjoyed both, think I liked Jessica Jones a little more. Both shows had fantastic antagonists, especially Daredevil's first season.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 May 2016, 19:04
Got to see a sneak preview for Civil War and it was amazing!! It was everything I wanted Batman v. Superman to be and more!!
I take back everything I said about Spider-man, he was great in this. But honestly, why couldn't they have just called this an Avengers movie?

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I feel like they did such a great job with this movie, it was so much better than the original story.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 May 2016, 18:52
Holy shitsnacks, that movie was great. I especially liked Spider-Man, the new kid does a damn good job as both Peter and "Underoos".

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2016, 17:44
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 May 2016, 15:42
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Anyone have canonical proof against this? Because otherwise it's true to me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: K1dmor on 15 May 2016, 16:59
 Steve gained his power on 1943. Coulson was born on July 8, 1964 (http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Phil_Coulson).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 May 2016, 18:26
That could be the official birthdate they gave Coulson so people don't know he's a few decades older than he looks. And that's only if you consider a wiki to be canon.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 16 May 2016, 12:32
Finally saw Age Of Ultron.

It's lacking in the magic of the first one. The first one may be the most perfect superhero film ever made, but it was more by accident than design. You can't bottle lightning, and that's what Ultron is trying to do.

It does a damn good job of trying it, though. Very entertaining film. Far from a classic. And James Spader is the shit.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 16 May 2016, 12:52
A lot of people have commented that Civil War is a better follow up to Avengers than Age of Ultron was. I'm fairly split on the matter. Ultron is a fine movie. Not without it's stumbling blocks certainly. But it's not bad. Civil War (naturally) focuses on the internal conflicts of the Avengers much more though. Possibly my biggest gripe is that all the blame that falls on the Avengers when they are doing Avenger things. The viewpoint can be understood from a mob rule kind of mentality. After all, wherever the Avengers go, things tend to explode... But when people are blaming the entire situation on the Avengers is neither accurate or true most of the time. Yes, Ultron is Tony Stark's fault. But the Avengers are not responsible for the Chitarii attack. Or for Hydra infiltrating Shield and planning to use the helicarriers to eliminate 'problematic' individuals. While blame for Ultron should fall on Tony, I don't think that's a to widely known fact, yet the Avengers are blamed for Sokovia. And then the mercenary attack in the beginning of Civil War.

Spoilered plot point for Civil War: view at your own risk.
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The Captain America movies do seem to have more attention paid to the consequences of the actions of the Avengers. And it is something of a point. The aftermaths of their battles tend to be catastrophic, and they tend to just drop things when it's over and go home, leaving the residents to clean up the mess. But blaming the Avengers for it happening in the first place is a bit absurd to me. In most cases I would say the damage would be much worse without the Avengers there.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 16 May 2016, 13:10
The problem is that people can only see the damage caused by the Avengers. Because the far greater catastrophe was averted, then it is fairly simple for people to question whether said catastrophe actually was imminent at all or if it was just an excuse for the Enhanced to flex their muscles. The harm seen always trumps the potential harm averted in the mind of the short-sighted and, regrettably, the vast majority of leaders are short-sighted.

I'm really hoping that we see more of Tony's growing guilt complex, for what it's worth. He's clearly punishing himself by one remove by punishing his fellow Avengers. Worse, he's see-sawing between extremes of freedom and regulation; as each fails him in turn, his snap in the other direction is growing more violent. A final, violent breakdown may be inevitable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 16 May 2016, 13:21
The harm seen always trumps the potential harm averted in the mind of the short-sighted and, regrettably, the vast majority of leaders are short-sighted.

Yes. Good words.

The tipping point for making the situation more grey for me was when Vision made their point. It helped me click out of just being a viewer being like, "Hell yeah, superheroes are great and they should just do their thing." into, Empathising With The Fictional Lives Of The Mostly Unseen Masses In The Marvel World.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 May 2016, 11:31
http://upinhisnest.tumblr.com/post/144897881513
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 26 May 2016, 16:28
The harm seen always trumps the potential harm averted in the mind of the short-sighted and, regrettably, the vast majority of leaders are short-sighted.

Yes. Good words.

The tipping point for making the situation more grey for me was when Vision made their point. It helped me click out of just being a viewer being like, "Hell yeah, superheroes are great and they should just do their thing." into, Empathising With The Fictional Lives Of The Mostly Unseen Masses In The Marvel World.

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I was thinking about this recently.
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 30 May 2016, 05:10
I can't believe I didn't know that Oscar Isaac was Apocalypse
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 31 May 2016, 03:55
I didn't either.

Because that movie sucked, his performance sucked and he was given nothing to do.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 05 Jul 2016, 08:43



Also saw X-Men Apocalypse this weekend.  I quite liked it...although I still have yet to see first class.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jul 2016, 18:21
Have you seen Days of Future Past?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 06 Jul 2016, 03:59
Yes.  First class is the only one of the "series" I havnt seen.  I do appreciate they are retconning some things from the first set of movies and the spin offs...particularly weapon X.  And the throw back costumes at the end of Apocalypse was a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Sep 2016, 19:53
Wolverine having metal claws in Apocalypse (or really ever post-retcon) makes no fucking sense, since Mystique disguised herself as Stryker so Logan didn't get taken by Stryker...and yet somehow Stryker got him and put adamantium in him anyway somehow? And they never address this. It's just...no. Bad Singer. On a lighter note:

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 01 Oct 2016, 08:36
So any of you guys watching Luke Cage?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 01 Oct 2016, 09:01
Not yet, but my Netflix has been acting up the last couple of weeks.

But, does he say "Sweet Christmas!" or has he gone to Latvaria and beaten up Doctor Doom, repeatedly saying "Where's my money, honey?!"
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Oct 2016, 11:14
So any of you guys watching Luke Cage?
Yep! I'm five episodes in and it is excellent.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 01 Oct 2016, 13:18
Two episodes and loving it so far. The new location is really interesting.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 01 Oct 2016, 15:28
I didn't really like him--both the character and the actor--at all in Jessica Jones and have been pretty ambivalent about him so far. The supporting cast is excellent, but the writing is so-so, with the same stilted dialogue that plagued the first season of Daredevil. It begins to get good around ep. 4. Music's v. good, but frequently misused. Action isn't very good yet. The memorial scene in the church was bad. The flashback-scenes have been good and this is the first of the Marvel series in which I've really dug Rosario Dawson's character. Really looking forward to seeing where they take her character arc.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 02 Oct 2016, 09:38
I'm loving it so far, I'm only 3 episodes in. I think the music is spot on - it gives the 70s nostalgia factor but does so in a contemporary way and I think they blend nicely. No, the fight scenes aren't that great, but then again, Luke Cage doesn't seem to be a fighter in this series, just a dude with impervious skin and super strength. Also the scene that was basically a reinactment of Terminator made me giggle.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Oct 2016, 15:33
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Post by: Lines on 03 Oct 2016, 20:47
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It was awesome.

Finished the series. Loved it. Definitely on par with the other Marvel series.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: YouCantSeeMe91 on 11 Oct 2016, 04:38
I'm loving it so far, I'm only 3 episodes in. I think the music is spot on - it gives the 70s nostalgia factor but does so in a contemporary way and I think they blend nicely. No, the fight scenes aren't that great, but then again, Luke Cage doesn't seem to be a fighter in this series, just a dude with impervious skin and super strength. Also the scene that was basically a reinactment of Terminator made me giggle.

Haha I had the same reaction :-D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 11 Oct 2016, 08:41
Well, my fighter comment was wrong, but I guess Luke Cage doesn't break out the boxing skills on those he thinks are a waste of time. Which is also ok.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Edguy on 26 Oct 2016, 03:59
Reviews for Doctor Strange (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/doctor_strange_2016) are coming out, and it's looking like it's another good Marvel movie!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 26 Oct 2016, 04:03
Reviews for Doctor Strange (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/doctor_strange_2016) are coming out, and it's looking like it's another good Marvel movie!

InB4 claims of 'Disney bribes' hit the 'Net! :roll:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 30 Oct 2016, 21:57
Tilda Swinton, Benedict Cummerbund, and Mads Mikkelson are in it, there are going to be some terrific performances no matter what (hopefully Mads will break the "forgettable villain (except Loki) curse" that the MCU seems to have.


dammit autocorrect, I'm typing in their names correctly, stop fighting my!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2016, 22:47
Excuse me? What about Hugo Weaving as The Red Skull was forgettable? Or James Spader as Ultron?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 31 Oct 2016, 04:52
Hugo Weav..shoot, I forgot that whole movie.   :oops:



Aaaand on a very timely and related note, SaTW (http://satwcomic.com/doctor-strange) got Thor mixed up with Thor 2: The Dark World.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Nov 2016, 06:50
I had also forgotten about Red Skull.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Masterpiece on 08 Nov 2016, 15:16
Ben Kingsley was pretty funny too.

This post was sent from inside my phone!

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 12 Nov 2016, 05:04
Tilda Swinton, Benedict Cummerbund, and Mads Mikkelson are in it, there are going to be some terrific performances no matter what (hopefully Mads will break the "forgettable villain (except Loki) curse" that the MCU seems to have.

The problem has rarely been with the actors so much as it has been with the writing. Some actors are better than others at compensating for that bad writing thanks to personality and skill but the problem lies with the scripts.

Saw Dr. Strange this week and enjoyed it a lot. Visuals were cool as hell and the 3D was good, but unfortunately the film is a little too dark visually which makes 3D a little annoying. Would no doubt have been awesome in IMAX.

Cumberbatch and Swinton were great but much of the supporting cast were poorly served by this script. Some of the dialogue, esp. between Strange and The Ancient One, was extremely clunky. I left feeling like the movie should have been about 30 mins longer because it felt like important things were missing that would've improved the flow of the plot.

Two extra scenes, one mid-credit and one post-credit, and both are good :) sequel's gonna be cool and I am very psyched about Tagnarok now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 12 Nov 2016, 19:10
Saw Dr. Strange today and holy cow was it pretty. I thought Inception was awesome effects-wise when it came out and this was Inception on steroids. We didn't see it in 3D, because it always manages to make me nauseous (minus a few animated movies), but it was still stunning in regular format. I appreciated the humor and the bad puns, but the flow of the movie wasn't as smooth as some of the others. I definitely agree with Aimless' comment about how it could have been 30 min longer just to explain more about what the sorcerers do. (I had to ask my husband a few times about things, as he's read the comics and I'm not as familiar with Dr. Strange.) But the cast did really well and it was very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Nov 2016, 20:37
Could you or Aimless let me know which parts you thought should have been extended (in spoiler tags of course)? I thought it was definitely long enough.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Nov 2016, 20:50
My thoughts on what seemed to fast:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Nov 2016, 21:07
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Lines on 13 Nov 2016, 18:57
What Neko_Ali said.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 14 Nov 2016, 05:39
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 03 Dec 2016, 19:16
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Dec 2016, 20:54
Holy shit Drax is the best.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: explicit on 03 Dec 2016, 22:31
Saw the trailer and it looks really good without giving away the plot, which I appreciate.

Also, I've begun watching Luke Cage (4 episodes in), and I am very impressed.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 04 Dec 2016, 01:07
Something you don't want to hear when you're discussing the 'detonate now' button on a nuclear bomb:
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Meanwhile, was it me or was the bomb's control panel based on the redstone repeater block from Minecraft?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 04 Dec 2016, 11:49
I think Drax is gonna regret that
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 09 Dec 2016, 08:28
Why hasn't anyone posted the spiderman trailer yet?

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 04 Mar 2017, 10:08
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2017, 07:40
Just watched episode one of Iron Fist. I like it! Definitely interested to see where it goes, although I probably won't rush through this one.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 18 Mar 2017, 07:44
Despite what the critics are saying I'm really enjoying it, though he's been one of my favorite characters since the Matt Fraction run
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 18 Mar 2017, 13:39
Dear Deadpool

You really have to be a Kryptonian capable of moving as Super Speed for that to work properly

 ;D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 18 Mar 2017, 15:33
To me, that scene just reminds us how much of a dork, a geek and a nerd Wade Wilson is and always will be.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 19 Mar 2017, 17:44
I saw it in theaters and sadly they use a shorter version without stan lee or a phone call
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Mar 2017, 18:33
Saw Logan today, didn't realize this version was different so I watched it. Paused the text at the end, it's a description of The Old Man and the Sea.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Mar 2017, 19:32
So I just finished Iron Fist. Overall, I liked it, but probably the weakest of the shows. Definitely doesn't deserve the hate it's been getting, though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 25 Mar 2017, 15:22
I'm about halfway through Iron Fist and, although I'm enjoying it more than Luke Cage, I just can't get over the sloppy execution.

80% of the actors are mediocre or outright bad. Characterization of several of the main characters is extremely clumsy, both due to poor writing as well as poor acting (this is esp. true of Danny and Colleen--see eg. Colleen's ridiculous and out-of-character smiles and giggles). Jessica Stroup's acting reminds me of Kristen Stewart and Keanu Reeves but lacks their range and depth and sincerity. As with JJ and LC, the secondary antagonists are far more compelling than the protagonists. Both Ward and "Frank" make the most of their occasionally comically villainous dialogue. Even minor characters like the people at Birch, Joy's assistant, Frank's computer-guy etc. outdo eg. Danny and Joy. I enjoyed seeing Hogarth again. Claire, not so much.

Danny starts off being exactly as annoying as you'd expect a home-schooled, bullied, idealistic 15-y-o kid to be after years of abuse, thousands of concussions and the guidance of others who've suffered thousands of concussions. I was kinda okay with that, the homeless hipster thing sorta worked. I could even stomach the extremely lazy writing during the boardroom scenes. Like everything else in the show it was a bit on the nose, but it felt like a comic book thing. What I'm having a lot more difficulty with is that, behind Danny's character, I'm sensing the wish-fulfillment of an army of dumb millennial slackers with motivational problems and "unrealized potential". Or perhaps the very noticeable self-insertion of just one such dummy. This may partly be due to his dumb face. His character lacks cohesion. The weird clueless adolescent hipster monk schtick works for him. When he's the 15-y-o traumatized and abused orphan trying to connect, it works. But then they try to make him intense, mysterious, sexy, smart, dangerous, funny, righteous and every other conceivable awesome or cool adjective known to man and it turns into a mess. Every time they have him acting superior to eg. Colleen or Joy it makes me retch.

I've been kinda disappointed with the fight-scenes so far. Movements are slow and strikes don't seem to connect properly. The choreography is uninteresting. There's no real tension in Danny's fights, several of which look and feel like watching amateur interpretive dance with wires, or the shameful kung-fu training re-enactments of a teenage boy, performed in secret in his room in front of a mirror. Compared to DD and Arrow, these scenes are embarrassing, and I hope they improve as the show progresses.

With all that said, I've actually been positively surprised by the show so far. I didn't expect to be able to get through the first episode, but I've found every episode reasonably compelling. There isn't as much filler or quite as many scenes as in LC that you just want to skip. They really should have embraced the martial arts genre as well as added more humor--it would have made some of the show's greatest deficiencies less noticeable. Anyway, er, you should totally watch it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 10 Apr 2017, 07:15
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 10 Apr 2017, 07:29
Trailer Reaction:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 10 Apr 2017, 10:44
Trailer Reaction:
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r/nocontext, where are you?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Apr 2017, 12:24
This Hela is on point
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AND MOTHERFUCKING SKURGE
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 10 Apr 2017, 15:08
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 10 Apr 2017, 16:15
THAT'S WHAT I'M AFRAID OF
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 10 Apr 2017, 17:33
I know, its going to be great!
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Apr 2017, 20:16
Holy shit, Thor's reaction about ninety seconds in is the most adorable thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Apr 2017, 20:26
"He's a friend from work!"
 :-D :-D :-D


But....Meowmow... :cry:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 13 Apr 2017, 21:11
Eh, Mewmew is the godly weapon version of Kenny from South Park, every couple of years it gets broken and fixed soon after. It's been damaged as often as Cap Amercia's shield has been shattered.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 29 Jun 2017, 07:49
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: sitnspin on 29 Jun 2017, 13:17
This Hela is on point
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AND MOTHERFUCKING SKURGE
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As a woman of half Icelandic descent, Hel is kinda my jam. I'm interested in seeing an interpretation of her on screen
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 06 Jul 2017, 15:35
Saw Spider-Man: Homecoming

Yeah, they kinda nailed this one. Everyone in the audience had a great time. Holland delivered on the promise from Civil War and Keaton's Vulture/Toomes made for pretty much the only compelling villain in the current MCU, combining the best aspects of Norman Osborne and Otto Octavius from the first trilogy, avoiding their flaws and adding a unique flair all his own that made this version of his character more interesting than most of his comic-book and cartoon incarnations. The supporting cast was solid and made the most of their few lines of dialogue.

Unlike the previous Spidey-movies, which were all fatally flawed in one way or another (with the possible exception of Spider-Man 2), Homecoming had, IMO, no major deal-breakers. There were a few rough edges--kinda lame theme track, two-dimensional supporting characters, painfully bad Gargan, etc--but nothing that really risked ruining the movie as a whole. Excellent pacing and use of tension throughout. Only a little melodrama that was almost always reined in at just the right moment. Fight sequences were decent and the CGI actually added to the experience without being distracting (much like it was in Winter Soldier).

Forgoing another retelling of the origin story was a very good decision, except in one respect: the movie doesn't really do justice to Peter's constant struggle with his own sense of duty and the conflicting demands that places on him in his various roles as student, friend, kin, hero etc.

The only major criticisms I have are that there was too much slapstick comedy in the first act (given Parker's performance in Civil War) and that we didn't really get a feel for what a huge mega-brainy nerd Parker really is. That said, this movie captures the essence of Spidey's formative years--the dorky, hopeless, teen-aged friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man coming into his own in a huge and terrifying universe full of seemingly insurmountable obstacles and villains with unimaginable power--in a way no other movie has done, so far. I'm very satisfied and looking forward to the sequel, although I hope said sequel won't feature Gargan too heavily. It wasn't a cinematic masterpiece but it was a very enjoyable movie, esp. for people who love Spidey :o

There are two extra scenes and I recommend staying for both. They've also posted an extra scene that didn't make it into the final cut:

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 11 Jul 2017, 10:18
Milana Vayntrub = Squirrel Girl
https://news.marvel.com/tv/68325/marvel-television-freeform-set-case-marvels-new-warriors/ (https://news.marvel.com/tv/68325/marvel-television-freeform-set-case-marvels-new-warriors/)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Jul 2017, 17:29
Milana Vayntrub = Squirrel Girl

That.
Is.
Perfect.
Casting
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2017, 18:14
In case anyone didn't know, this is the new Squirrel Girl.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Jul 2017, 00:41
Your data caps and pricing over there never cease to amaze me.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Jul 2017, 08:21
"The free market will take care of itself". That's the fallacy of letting capitalism run free. Companies do whatever they can to maximize their profits, usually at the expense of other people.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Jul 2017, 15:46
Your data caps and pricing over there never cease to amaze me.
I've had a smartphone since 2008, and I've never not had unlimited data. Grandfathered with AT&T until 2014, then I switched to T-Mobile when AT&T started throttling. Now they all offer unlimited again.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: SubaruStephen on 24 Jul 2017, 20:30
Whoever is in charge of the music for the Thor Ragnarock trailers is on fire!
Led Zeppelin's Immigrant Song for the first trailer and now an awesome remix of Magic Sword's In The Face of Evil?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Jul 2017, 21:05
Captain Marvel movie is going to be set during the early 90s with Carol fighting the Skrulls and Nick Fury will have both eyes.

So yeah, there's that too.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Jul 2017, 21:33
Wait, an MCU movie that doesn't take place the year it came out? Interesting. Even The First Avenger ended in 2011.

Edit: Ahh, it's gonna come out between Avengers 3 and 4, so I guess that makes sense.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Jul 2017, 21:57
Wait, an MCU movie that doesn't take place the year it came out? Interesting. Even The First Avenger ended in 2011.

Edit: Ahh, it's gonna come out between Avengers 3 and 4, so I guess that makes sense.

It's not the first time, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 was set in 2014, taking place just a couple of months after the first.

Doctor Strange takes place over a couple of years.

It's the cinematic version of comic book time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 24 Jul 2017, 23:20
Captain Marvel movie is going to be set during the early 90s with Carol fighting the Skrulls and Nick Fury will have both eyes.

That in itself creates a problem for the script-writers to resolve. If Carol has had her powers since the 1990s (meaning she became active at about the same time as Tony Stark became Iron Man), then why was she not involved with hunting down The Hulk or repulsing the Chitauri?

One obvious explanation I can come up with is that they're going to go down the 'Jessica Jones' route and have her retire and effectively go into hiding for some reason. Given what I remember about the character, that could be either personal tragedy or the fight against alcoholism that was a major part of the character for a while in the 1990s.

Alternately, as the good Captain got her powers from some kind of Kree technology, she may have been off-world with her sponsors for some reason and not know anything about recent events until Thanos trashes the place looking for the Infinity Gems. She may initially turn up in the main plot thread in pursuit of the Guardians to enforce a speeding ticket that they picked up at some point.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 25 Jul 2017, 04:42
Captain Marvel movie is going to be set during the early 90s with Carol fighting the Skrulls and Nick Fury will have both eyes.

That in itself creates a problem for the script-writers to resolve. If Carol has had her powers since the 1990s (meaning she became active at about the same time as Tony Stark became Iron Man), then why was she not involved with hunting down The Hulk or repulsing the Chitauri?

Carol Danvers, although a major heroine on Earth, is technically one of Marvel's Cosmic stable. Presumably because she is part Kree in the comics, I'm guessing that by the end of her film Carol will end up in some form of suspended animation. Either that or she's in deep space on a mission or imprisoned, either by the Skrull or the Kree.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Jul 2017, 05:59
She's also spent extended time out in the greater galaxy. Including stretches of time spent with the Guardians of the Galaxy and the Starjammers. Since she would be SHIELD's resident alien expert during the time the Avengers were being formed there are two likely explanations. She was already out in space somewhere fighting the Chitauri or trying to find out more about them and missed the battle for New York. Or during the time she was long out of touch, possibly presumed dead. We'll probably get the answer at the end of her movie, with a post credits scene explaining what she's being doing the last two decades in space and returning to warn SHIELD about Thanos coming for the Infinity Gems.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 25 Jul 2017, 06:44
Neko pretty much hit the nail on the head. Let's not forget that War Machine wasn't there for the Battle of New York. Neither was Hank Pam. Even if you have supersonic speed, it still takes a while to travel across a continent. So really, the most likely reasons why Carol wasn't fighting was either she's in space and has been for several years, or she's gone Binary and it's taking her time to return.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Jul 2017, 10:42
War Machine wasn't around at that time, was he? I forget when Iron Man 2 came out right now. Ant Man was a different story... Maybe SHIELD didn't know he was Hank Pym, though that seems unlikely. Maybe they knew he was retired and not fit for super heroing anymore.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 25 Jul 2017, 10:48
Iron Man 2 was the third film in the MCU, 2 movies before Avengers Assemble.

And the MCU version of Hank Pym was a founding member of SHIELD (or a very early agent). My point was that there will be plenty of heroes or assets who were operating at the time of the Battle of New York that simply couldn't make it to New York in time.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Kugai on 14 Aug 2017, 21:42
Meanwhile ....


In the City of Townsville ..............


Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Aug 2017, 19:23
So...anyone else watch The Defenders yet?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 20 Aug 2017, 23:07
I've started watching it this week. It has all the problems of a crossover in that it has to re-introduce four already-introduced characters but the first episode does that well, just telling four stories (five actually, but the details of that are a spoiler) that have no obvious link. We'll see how they handle meshing them together, especially Jessica 'Self-Hating Misanthrope' Jones.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: hedgie on 22 Aug 2017, 17:50
So...anyone else watch The Defenders yet?
Not as of yet.  I had not watched "Iron Fist" yet because of some of the reviews, but am starting it now.  I will go on to "The Defenders" when I finish.  (The first episode so far isn't bad, but it's not anywhere near as gripping as Daredevil S1, Jessica Jones, or Luke Cage were.)

Edit:
Okay, watching The Defenders now, on ep 6, although I'll have to re-watch eps 3-6 again since I was busy setting up a Slack for my local LUG on the other display and made the mistake of mentioning it on the group's IRC channel (and dealing with that).
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 24 Aug 2017, 18:41
Currently known list of characters for Infinity War:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Aug 2017, 10:21
No Brie Larsen?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 25 Aug 2017, 11:36
Nope, Brie Larson will be making her debut in the MCU in 2019's Captain Marvel movie. She won't be in Infinity Wars until the second film.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Nov 2017, 15:21
I saw Thor: Ragnarok over the weekend and it was a fantastic movie. All the returning characters gave great performances and Cate Blanchett absolutely killed it as Hela. My biggest gripe in the movie was I wanted more scenes with her. I want an entire movie around her. Scourge was sadly, poorly used here. His primary role was to give Hela someone to talk to when we needed plot exposition from her. The storyline makes some rather large departures from both actual Norse myth and Marvel's version of Asgard. I wouldn't say it spoiled my enjoyment of the film, but I did spend a lot of time thinking 'wait, what?'.

Fight scenes, quite epic. People talking and bantering was often times funny, sometimes moving. There was a lot of humor in a movie about the destruction of Asgard... There was a lot of character growth for Thor obviously and a fair bit for Loki. Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie was great too.. though again, she is literally nothing like Brunhylde the Valkyrie from the Marvel books. I don't even think it was supposed to be her, but rather another Valkyrie.

If you're a fan of the MCU, I recommend seeing, as if you weren't going to anyway. If you aren't a fan and have no idea what this is on about... It's still a good movie, but I think a lot of stuff just won't make any sense. We're getting to a point where people watching are just assumed to know when characters, events and places are name dropped. If anyone were to start watching mid way at this point it would at best be mildly confusing that they keep talking about stuff that happened, but that's the price of an ongoing story like this.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Nov 2017, 15:58
Disney reportedly in talks to buy 21st Century Fox:
http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/06/disney-buys-21st-century-fox/ (http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/06/disney-buys-21st-century-fox/)

This would bring the Fantastic Four, and all associated with them, and the X-Men, and all associated with them, back to Marvel. The only thing outside of Marvel control then would be Spider-Man and his ancillary characters and villains.

Additionally, this would clear up some outstanding rights issues relating to the original Star Wars trilogy, and probably pave the way for a fully restored/remastered Blu-Ray release of the unedited films.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 06 Nov 2017, 16:33
Technically the Hulk is also out of Marvel's control. The Incredible Hulk was a special deal between Universal and Marvel, Universal own the rights to individual Hulk movies, but allows the character to be used in ensemble films.

But a couple of sources have said that the two companies aren't currently in talks. There have been some discussions, in particular about streaming services between Fox and Disney. In August it was reported that Disney might be pulling its material from Netflix as it looks to start its own streaming service.

Still, we'll have to see what comes about.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Torlek on 06 Nov 2017, 19:13
Another interesting bit is that, if this deal were to include everything not fox news and fox sports, it would give Disney a controlling interest in Hulu (Disney currently has 27% and Fox has 27 or 28%). Additionally it would bring other IPs like Alien, Predator, Terminator, Planet of the Apes and Avatar. That's a lot of IPs with franchise potential when under Disney supervision. They wouldn't just be printing money, they would be 3D printing the machines that print the money.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 06 Nov 2017, 19:35
Which is another point. Disney already owns the ABC Network, they can't legally own Fox without getting into antitrust issues.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 06 Nov 2017, 23:27
Disney are only interested in buying parts of 20th Century Fox. I think that a lot of questions would be answered if we knew which parts. I'm betting it's their back-catalogue and lots of their licenses.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Nov 2017, 18:44
Let's be honest, this is a pretty good administration for a merger that would normally be blocked.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Nov 2017, 04:27
Getting the X-Men in there would probably be one of the only things that would get me properly engaged with the universe again. There'd still be way too many characters, even more so, as a matter of fact, but getting the X-Men involved in some of the big arcs would be something I'd really like to see.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 08 Nov 2017, 05:35
Its recently been confirmed that Infinity War will have over 60 characters, with about 32 of them sharing one scene alone. Obviously the film can't have go on like that, most of the film will probably focus on small groups and dynamics. The likely groups will probably be:
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 13 Nov 2017, 12:31
Holy shit! Go see Thor! It was amazing!  :-D
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: chaospersonified on 18 Nov 2017, 21:37
Thor: Ragnarok is amazing. It’s a superhero movie with the sub-genre ‘comedy,’ and it’s more a comedy than it is a superhero flick. The exact mix is indeterminable, but I laughed my ass off more than I have in any Marvel movie to date, and that’s comparing to how I lost probably 7% of my booty meat from Guardians of the Galaxy.

Solid performances all around, especially considering the CGI element.

The best Thor movie by a massive amount. Better than most MCU installments by a fairly large amount, also.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: dutchrvl on 21 Nov 2017, 13:20
Thor: Ragnarok is amazing. It’s a superhero movie with the sub-genre ‘comedy,’ and it’s more a comedy than it is a superhero flick. The exact mix is indeterminable, but I laughed my ass off more than I have in any Marvel movie to date, and that’s comparing to how I lost probably 7% of my booty meat from Guardians of the Galaxy.

Solid performances all around, especially considering the CGI element.

The best Thor movie by a massive amount. Better than most MCU installments by a fairly large amount, also.

Agreed that Thor is pretty damn amazing :) Definitely more of a comedy than superhero movie I feel.
To me it's more or less on par with the second Guardians movie, while I laughed the most with the first Guardians (actually most with Deadpool, but not MCU I know). In terms of overall quality Ironman probably still comes out on top for me personally (despite the somewhat disappointing finale). The Captain movies have always felt a little overrated, especially the first one, which I thought was at most middle of the pack among Marvel movies. Did really like Winter Soldier though.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 29 Nov 2017, 12:56
Infinity War trailer dropped.

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LTK on 03 Dec 2017, 14:54
So I watched Thor: Ragnarok and...

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 03 Dec 2017, 15:52
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 03 Dec 2017, 17:23
So I watched Thor: Ragnarok and...

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In a way, yes he was willing to, but look at the trailer I posted.  :-D

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 12 Jan 2018, 17:30
Finally got around to watching Guardians of the Galaxy 2.  I quite liked it.  It really expanded on all the characters and their relationships.  It was also just fun to boot.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 12 Jan 2018, 19:46
Oh and Black Widow is finally getting her own movie.

At the moment, Marvel has only hired Jac Schaeffer (her work includes Olaf's Frozen Adventure and Nasty Women, an all female remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels) to write a screenplay, with the possible film being slated for a post Phase 3 release, which means around 2020 at the earliest.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jan 2018, 14:46
Bought tickets for Black Panther today. My theater has reserved seating, and buying tickets for February 18th (a Sunday morning, not even opening day) had very few decent seats left (not super close or off to the side), so I'm glad I bought it now.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Aimless on 15 Feb 2018, 12:59

Well-made movie and a welcome departure from the established Marvel formula. Neither the best nor the worst. More restrained than most, but many scenes were just too on-the-nose, leaving little space for the audience to think. The soundtrack was phony as hell but the visuals were awesome. The accents didn't work--several people had a really hard time maintaining it. Some of the sc-ifi elements were annoying; whenever a movie invokes "nanites", I tend to go, "Oh fuck off," and tune out. The supporting cast was excellent. The mid-credits scene, the post-credits scene a little better. The ending was a little sloppy.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Feb 2018, 04:04
Saw it yesterday, I liked it a lot. Also, did anyone think of this during the "sneaker" line?

(https://scontent.fewr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27972446_2054893234535927_1277395213324028821_n.jpg?oh=636df05844609a1cda105a72fd4fdd75&oe=5B1280EA)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 02 May 2018, 18:45
Parody of Infinity war
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Theta9 on 23 Jun 2018, 15:54
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if cap3 isn’t called “captain america and falcon: we’re up all night to get bucky”, i’m not watching it
Well, they didn't use that title, but that's essentially what Civil War actually was.  :lol:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Tova on 23 Jun 2018, 19:22
This was so enlightening for me (yeah it's close to a year old, sue me).

Why Buckaroo Banzai is Today's Most Important Superhero - Brows Held High (https://youtu.be/yNbJb1NEGUk)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 20 Jul 2018, 14:53
James Gunn has been fired from Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and is no longer working with Disney/Marvel.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 19 Nov 2018, 17:27
So this is real?

Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 19 Nov 2018, 17:58
Yes. Yes it is.

Its the PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 and its using the framing device of Deadpool having kidnapped Fred Savage to reenact the Grandfather and Grandson scenes of the Princess Bride.

And Fred really lives up to his surname.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: brilligtove on 20 Nov 2018, 19:23
I made the same joke a different way for the same reasons. :)
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Mar 2019, 21:53
Anyone see Captain Marvel? I enjoyed it quite a bit, and am definitely looking forward to see her in Endgame.

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 12 Mar 2019, 00:44
I'm not sure. Mostly I disapprove of the introduction of a last-reel new character, one whose existence hasn't even been hinted at before, to save the day. It's lazy writing and the minute I saw the pager scene at the end of Infinity War, I realised just what a plot cop-out Captain Marvel potentially could be.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Mar 2019, 06:58
Maybe, but her origin movie was good enough that I'm willing to forgive that.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: LeeC on 19 Mar 2019, 11:59
I just realized: Scott Pilgrim tricked captain america, beat superman, and dated captain marvel  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: pwhodges on 19 Mar 2019, 12:39
Shall I bring back all my Scott Pilgrim avatars, then?
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Tova on 19 Mar 2019, 16:00
It's interesting to note that amongst the thicket of Marvel intertextuality and True Believer moments, the one note of Captain Marvel criticism so far in this thread centers on the introduction of something new.

Truly, Pop Will Eat Itself.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Mar 2019, 18:54
I think that's more of a criticism of Infinity War than Captain Marvel. And less a criticism of something new than a possible deus ex machina.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Tova on 19 Mar 2019, 19:53
As far as I am concerned, Death is Merely a Setback overshadows whatever faults everyone ends up focusing on.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 20 Mar 2019, 07:19
Just saw Captain Marvel and I really liked it. Not as much as Ragnarok or Black Panther, but definitely better than Iron Man 2/3 and Thor 2. My wife was signing along with all the 90's music in it

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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Theta9 on 22 Mar 2019, 06:59

My wife was signing along with all the 90's music in it
You mean, like in ASL? Very considerate of her to not annoy the other viewers by singing aloud.  :-P
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Mar 2019, 07:26
I admit I broke out into sub-vocalizing the lyrics when 'I'm just a girl' started up. Such perfect timing for it.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Castlerook on 31 Mar 2019, 13:35
Saw Captain Marvel today, absolutely loved every minute of it. Fantastic movie.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Blue Kitty on 04 May 2019, 19:02
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Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: Welu on 05 May 2019, 08:04
Same. I had to look it up.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: BenRG on 05 May 2019, 13:09
In a short-run comic title called 'The New Avengers', that boy, Harley, is the new Iron Man about 10 years into the future.

I finally got to see Endgame today and it was pretty much as expected but it was still very good. The amount of work the Russos did communicating emotion and the power of the events portrayed was excellent. All the cast knocked it out of the park with the curious exception of Brie Larson. Perhaps it was because she's a relative newcomer to the franchise but she seemed to struggle to know how to fit into every scene she was in.

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Overall, it was a great ending to the MCU as we've known it. I have to say that I probably won't be watching the next phase because, somehow, it will never quite live up to what went before it.
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Post by: Aimless on 05 May 2019, 13:38
Brie wasn't the problem—the people running the show kinda suck at dealing with female heroes so they decided to make a movie for dudes about dudes doing dudesy things, occasionally with the help of a woman. I enjoyed the movie thoroughly, but they really screwed over the ladies (with the exception of Nova).
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Post by: BenRG on 05 May 2019, 23:38
I honestly can't accept your assessment. Scarlet Johannsen managed to knock it out of the park in her pivotal role as did Gweneth Paltrow and Rene Russo.

Short roles? Yes. Supporting roles, in two of the three cases? Yes. But still strong, meaningful, glorious and pivotal.
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 07 May 2019, 11:16
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EDIT: Yes, I referred to RDJ as Tony Stark. Fixed.
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Post by: Aimless on 07 May 2019, 13:35
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Post by: Torlek on 07 May 2019, 18:06
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Post by: Thrillho on 17 May 2019, 15:48
I saw Endgame today finally.

Will be back later with thoughts. I thought it was about as fair to women as it was possible to be with the character setup it was given from a decade of movies that started before the really quite recent massive upswing in feminism.
Title: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe
Post by: jwhouk on 17 May 2019, 18:11
I'm going to be honest here: I have heard enough about Endgame to realize that there was a reason why I really stopped following Marvel Comics back in the 1990's.

The way they deal with multiverses and Alternate Timelines makes DC's Crisis on Alternate Earths look positively sane by comparison. I just recall all the things with the X-Men and how things got so out of hand you forgot what the team looked like this month, and I suddenly realized that this was exactly what they were doing in the MCU.

The more you mess with timelines, the more unwatchable/unreadable a universe becomes. The only fictional franchise where it's worked is the one that intentionally hand-waves it away with a flick of a sonic screwdriver and a whirr of the TARDIS. Not even Star Trek does it well (oh, hai, Discovery!).

Marvel Comics FUBAR'ed the comics up with alternate universes and timelines. Doing that to resolve the Ultimate Bad Ending issue makes it head-bangingly frustrating.

Just my $0.02.
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Post by: Castlerook on 17 May 2019, 18:21
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Post by: Case on 17 May 2019, 18:22
oh, hai, Discovery!

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Post by: BenRG on 17 May 2019, 23:39
I'm going to be honest here: I have heard enough about Endgame to realize that there was a reason why I really stopped following Marvel Comics back in the 1990's.

The way they deal with multiverses and Alternate Timelines...

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Post by: Aimless on 18 May 2019, 13:26
J, the criticism in your post seems a little misdirected in this case.
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Post by: Tova on 19 May 2019, 01:17
You seem very sure. (https://www.cbr.com/avengers-endgame-broke-mcu-multiverse/)
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Post by: Castlerook on 27 May 2019, 15:30
A couple of leaks have popped up today about the future of the MCU, most of them coming from someone who posted a lot of Endgame information that proved to be true.

I'm going to put the rumoured films under a spoiler, but the following information doesn't seem particularly spoilery.
- Marvel is possibly doing away with the Phases, Marvel are planning to run Phase 4 until 2024, but after that its up in the air.
- There will not be another decade long overarching story arc, but smaller threads running through Phase 4.
- Marvel have said that they probably won't do anything with the X-men or the Fantastic Four until after 2024.

Rumoured films (also including the ones we already knew because there's some pertinent information). There are some spoilers for Endgame.
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I mean, I'd take a big chunk of this with a load of salt, but we'll find out more after Far From Home is released.
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Post by: Thrillho on 27 May 2019, 17:10
Jesus Christ that is a lot of movies.
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Post by: Castlerook on 27 May 2019, 17:52
Probably even more. Sony have been reportedly talking to Marvel about possibly bringing in Tom Hardy as Venom for the third Spider-man film.
Fox have been looking at introducing Deadpool to the MCU.
And that's not even going into some of the actors renegotiating their contracts.
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Post by: LeeC on 28 May 2019, 12:37
MCU US Government: The avengers are too dangerous to stop major threats because of collateral damage

Also MCU US Government: Lets nuke NYC to stop Loki
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Post by: Torlek on 28 May 2019, 18:33
It was actually the World Security Council that was going to nuke New York. So it was the secret, shadowy world government.
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Post by: LeeC on 20 Jun 2019, 09:05
Why Thor ISN’T Immune to Electricity

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Post by: Castlerook on 20 Jun 2019, 09:16
Disney are making a final push to make Endgame the highest grossing film of all time. They're doing this by rereleasing Endgame in selected theatres with a deleted scene after the credits. Considering they're 30 million dollars off, they might just do it.
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Post by: LeeC on 20 Jun 2019, 15:36
Well Avatar re-released too so its par for the course.
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Post by: Tova on 20 Jun 2019, 18:37
Disney are making a final push to make Endgame the highest grossing film of all time. They're doing this by rereleasing Endgame in selected theatres with a deleted scene after the credits. Considering they're 30 million dollars off, they might just do it.

That is a kind of marketing genius, but they could take this a lot further.

They ought to have, say, three different “deleted” scenes, and show just one of them after the credits of each screening so you need multiple viewings to see them all.

And one of them should be rare.
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Post by: Cornelius on 20 Jun 2019, 23:20
A bit like the ending of Clue, you mean?
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Post by: Tova on 21 Jun 2019, 00:15
Yeah, except not with the crucial metaphorical "whodunnit" scene, just a bonus scene.
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Post by: Castlerook on 21 Jun 2019, 00:42
That is a kind of marketing genius, but they could take this a lot further.

They ought to have, say, three different “deleted” scenes, and show just one of them after the credits of each screening so you need multiple viewings to see them all.

And one of them should be rare.

Haha, I can see someone trying that. But the truth is that Endgame is nearing the end of its cinematic run and Disney are looking to start pushing Toy Story 4 now. It certainly would have been a feather in Disney's cap if they could have made it the highest grossing film in history, but they'll have to settle with it being the most successful film they've ever done instead.
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Post by: LeeC on 21 Jun 2019, 21:05
Something always bugged me about the end of Ragnarok and how the Asgardians fare at the beginning of Endgame.
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Its a nitpick to be sure, its just something that stood out to me.
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Post by: Castlerook on 22 Jun 2019, 03:29
Its to do with Thor's mental state.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Jul 2019, 21:04
I really liked Far From Home. Saw it last weekend.
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Post by: LeeC on 14 Jul 2019, 18:34
(https://i.imgur.com/KFMXO6N.jpg)
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Post by: BenRG on 15 Jul 2019, 00:58
@LeeC,

Yeah, I start to get confused too.
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Post by: Theta9 on 15 Jul 2019, 06:49
(https://i.imgur.com/KFMXO6N.jpg)
WAT
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Post by: dutchrvl on 15 Jul 2019, 09:38
(https://i.imgur.com/KFMXO6N.jpg)

The Room was definitely an underappreciated solo adventure of the winter soldier
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Post by: Tova on 17 Jul 2019, 14:34
Ha ha, The Room may have been many things, but I sincerely doubt that underappreciated is one of them.