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Title: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 04 Jun 2013, 04:29
Time for a new thread, as the old one (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,7913.0.html) has reached my length limit.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 04 Jun 2013, 05:27
I am considering adding an industrial piercing, done with a surface bar, to my list of wanted mods.

Quote from: Jace
Still undecided on what I'd want around it, I don't want just words, those are boring, thinking maybe a space scene, with the words as a negative space on the bottom or something. Still sort of just want it around my forearm boxed in black with the words as a negative. Maybe fading the box out some or doing a geometric thing on the edges. To hell with what my girlfriend thinks. She has a flower on her foot and is gonna lecture me on classiness

Also Jace, the space scene with those words in negative sounds like it would look awesome.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 04 Jun 2013, 06:01
Out of curiousity, is anyone of you good at drawing? Because I'm working at the design for my first tattoo, but I suck at drawing so I ain't getting nowhere.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 04 Jun 2013, 06:30
I'm not too shabby  :wink:

I could use some inspiration too, have been doing mostly graphic design stuff lately so something using a pencil is a welcome change. Wanna PM me with what you're thinking about?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 04 Jun 2013, 07:47
Awesome, I'll message you later today, once I'm finished cleaning my apartment and showing the potential new roommate around. :)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 04 Jun 2013, 08:50
Nice :-) Looking forward to it. Good luck with the roommate thing!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Jun 2013, 15:58
So I'm going to make a post just linking useful things for folks. Online jewelry retailers, jewelry brands, blogs and the like and keep it updated when I remember to. It being first page should make it a hell of a lot easier to keep track of.

Online Retailers and Jewelry Brands:
BodyArtForms (http://www.bodyartforms.com/)
Tawapa (http://www.tawapa.com/)
Gorilla Glass (http://www.getgorilla.com/)
Glasswear Studios (http://www.glasswearstudios.com/)
Industrial Strength (http://www.isbodyjewelry.com/)
Anatometal (http://anatometal.com/)
Omerica Organic (http://www.omericaorganic.com/)
Onetribe (http://onetribe.nu/)
Tribu (http://tribu.co.uk/)
Diablo Organics (http://www.diabloorganics.com/)
Oracle Body Jewelry (http://www.oraclebodyjewelry.com/)
Kaos Softwear (http://kaossoftwear.com/)

Blogs and Online Educational Material:
The Modified World (http://www.youtube.com/user/pangeapiercing/videos)
ModBlog (http://news.bme.com/category/modblog/)
Piercing and Stretching 101 (http://stretching101.tumblr.com/StretchingBasics)
Jewelry Sizing Chart 1 (http://avaiaartisticjewelry.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/gauge-chart1.jpg)
Jewelry Sizing Chart 2 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bodymodorganics.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/gauge-and-size.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bodymodorganics.com/category_s/1845.htm&h=962&w=500&sz=72&tbnid=DJdAVE0E-pb6UM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=47&zoom=1&usg=__wJOwxmaGdrAHt2mFUxVeudlch7U=&docid=PVg8CylEW2tyfM&sa=X&ei=5XauUYWuJui_ygH8h4DACQ&ved=0CDsQ9QEwAw&dur=3202)
Wood Hazards: A Guide to Potentially Dangerous Hardwoods for the Piercing Community (http://www.organicjewelry.com/woodhazards.html)
Suspension.org (http://www.suspension.org/index.htm)
Cybernetics for the Masses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APOAmxFEMkQ)

Books:
Opening Up: Body Modification Interviews 1995 - 2008 (http://www.zentastic.com/blog/opening-up/) (Softcover (http://www.lulu.com/shop/shannon-larratt/opening-up-body-modification-interviews/paperback/product-3932971.html), PDF (http://www.zentastic.com/pdf/openingup.pdf))
MEET TOMMY: An Exploration of Private Body Modification and Play (http://www.zentastic.com/blog/meet-tommy/) (Softcover (http://www.lulu.com/shop/shannon-larratt/meet-tommy-an-exploration-of-private-body-modification-and-play/paperback/product-20568702.html), PDF (http://www.zentastic.com/pdf/meet-tommy-ebook.pdf))
ModCon (http://www.zentastic.com/blog/modcon/) (PDF (http://www.zentastic.com/pdf/ModConBook.pdf))
Modern Primitives: An Investigation of Contemporary Adornment and Ritual (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/367880.Modern_Primitives) (Softcover (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Primitives-Investigation-Contemporary-Adornment/dp/1889307262))
In the Flesh: The Cultural Politics of Body Modification (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/413508.In_the_Flesh) (Softcover (http://www.amazon.com/In-Flesh-Cultural-Politics-Modification/dp/0312293119/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1370476472&sr=1-1))
Running the Gauntlet (http://www.runningthegauntlet-book.com/) (Hardcover (http://www.amazon.com/Running-Gauntlet-Jim-Ward/dp/0615424724), Softcover (http://www.amazon.com/Running-Gauntlet-Jim-Ward/dp/0988851601/ref=tmm_pap_title_0))
The Piercing Bible (http://piercingbible.com/) (Softcover (http://www.amazon.com/Piercing-Bible-Definitive-Guide-Safe/dp/1580911935), Kindle (http://www.amazon.com/The-Piercing-Bible-ebook/dp/B004G8P2RI/ref=tmm_kin_title_0), Nook (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/piercing-bible-elayne-angel/1014037531?ean=9780307777911&itm=1&usri=the+piercing+bible), Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Elayne_Angel_Piercing_Bible?id=83sjmTPnz48C&feature=nav_other#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDYsImJvb2stODNzam1UUG56NDhDIl0.), iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/piercing-bible/id420923487?mt=11))
A Brief History of the Evolution of Body Adornment: Ancient Origins and Today (http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=Ancient_Origins_and_Today_(Book)) (Softcover (http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Evolution-Body-Adornment/dp/0867196084))
The World of Tattoo: An Illustrated History (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/676917.The_World_of_Tattoo) (Hardcover (http://www.amazon.com/The-World-Tattoo-Illustrated-History/dp/9068321927/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370546833&sr=8-1&keywords=The+World+of+Tattoo))
Fakir Musafar: Spirit + Flesh (http://www.amazon.com/Fakir-Musafar-Spirit-Flesh/dp/189204157X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371106238&sr=8-1&keywords=flesh+and+spirit+fakir)

Movies & Documentaries:
Whole (http://www.whole-documentary.com/) (iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/whole-2003/id338817506))
Flesh & Blood (http://news.bme.com/2008/07/10/film-review-flesh-and-blood/) (Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Flesh-Blood-Steve-Haworth/dp/B001ESEJUE/ref=sr_1_5?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1370406351&sr=1-5&keywords=flesh+and+blood))
MODIFY (http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=MODIFY_(Movie)) (Netflix (http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Modify/70068521?trkid=2361637), Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Modify-Jason-Gary/dp/B000NKE08U/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1370406272&sr=1-1&keywords=modify), Google Play (https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Modify?id=0OWrBLY2E4s&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLG51bGwsIm1vdmllLTBPV3JCTFkyRTRzIl0.))
Dances Sacred & Profane (http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=Dances_Sacred_and_Profane)  (Youtube Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIhbG7MgH_0), Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDE_0ZUimT0), Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ean99UvkF4), Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v09qxMB_VlQ), Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEmkgW2wTM), Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=383e30SQGjU))
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Jun 2013, 14:46
Shawn Porter talks about the first ScarWars event.

SPC: ScarWars One (2005) (http://news.bme.com/2013/06/05/spc-scarwars-one-2005/#more-44756)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Jun 2013, 16:42
I would greatly appreciate anyone tossing in anything they find to be added to the list as well, especially on the documentary side of things. As I'm sure anyone who has ever tried to find good histories of modern body modification knows, it either focuses on it's origins in the underground gay and S&M culture, or it has an uncomfortably worship like attitude towards the Modern Primitive style movements. I'd like to see something that takes a proper look at it from the cultural appropriation angle seeing as how many rituals and spiritual symbols have been absorbed by it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 06 Jun 2013, 06:28
I'm sorry I have nothing big to contribute, Stephen. All I can suggest is the Onetribe store as well - onetribe.nu. I've gotten horn from them before and they're super awesome.

Also, I have some intense blowouts on both my lobes from about 8 years ago, when I was a youngin, stretching without a care in the world. It looks like I might just have to get them scalpelled off - they're apparently too old to massage away. Has anyone had something like that done before?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Jun 2013, 13:42
I'd completely forgotten about Onetribe, thank you!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 06 Jun 2013, 14:15
Thanks for the big list, I'll be searching through that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Jun 2013, 15:11
Oh yeah, you could also do a search for Dr. Masaichi Fukushi and his human skin collection at The Medical Pathology Museum of Tokyo University in Japan.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me4522Ksb41r3dq4jo1_500.jpg)

(http://gemmaangel.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tattoo-time-vol-4-dr-fukushi-2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/x0FzS4y.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Jun 2013, 23:22
Gah, sorry about so many multi posts, but here's another one.

(http://i.imgur.com/wjOsOOB.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 Jun 2013, 01:32
That human skin collection is really awesome and really creepy at the same time.
Reminds me of Silence of the lambs...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 07 Jun 2013, 05:11
GAH. I love Silence of the Lambs, but yes, that reminds me of Buffalo Bill and now I'm weirded out.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 09 Jun 2013, 20:11
Oh my god these plugs have an armadillo butt. (http://www.bodyartforms.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=13956)

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/13956.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 09 Jun 2013, 20:13
Oh mannnnn I would wear them butt-forward all the time.

Also! I was talking to my piercer about getting something interesting in the top half of my ears. I love the look of industrials, but my ear is just not shaped properly to hold one. He suggested one done with a christina barbell - it's a female genital piercing, so I suggest not looking this up at work - which is basically an L shaped barbell, instead of a straight one. So now I am considering this and also maybe I want a christina piercing because it looks awesome.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 10 Jun 2013, 07:59
Oooh, that sounds cool! I had an industrial for a while but I think my ear was too wonky for it. It pulled weirdly and the bottom part got infected and icky and painful. I let that close up and then stuck a stud in the top part to keep it open, which I believe would be called...umm...almost a forward helix? Does this even have a name?  :psyduck:

I took out the stud fairly recently but I think it closed up, which is insane to me since I think it was 14g.


This post makes me feel like I know absolutely nothing about piercings....
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 10 Jun 2013, 09:46
I want to get a daith and industrial piercings.

I'm trying to find an artist to help with a tattoo design but not having much luck. Got a very specific style in my brain and that's holding me back from asking people.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 10 Jun 2013, 12:51
If you don't mind me asking, what style?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 10 Jun 2013, 13:08
Want something shaded realistically, with a mainly metal texture, to look like it's partially under the skin.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 10 Jun 2013, 15:05
Double post: Just after I (once again) got done looking through the work of the artists at the tattoo place (http://www.belfastcityskinworks.com/images.html) I'd go to, an opportunity for me to go to the city comes up! Whoo!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Jun 2013, 18:32
Yay! I think it's definitely worth talking to a good artist about the design you want.

I looked up christina piercings and apparently they take a fucking long time to heal - 4 to 6 months. Maybe I don't want want after all. Sigh.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 11 Jun 2013, 05:57
Oooh, Welu that sounds cool.

And Neko- yikes. I can not imagine waiting that long for something to heal. That sounds like misery. :-\
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Jun 2013, 06:04
Nah, it's not actually that long in comparison to several other piercings. Keep in mind that nipples and cartilage piercings are 6 months to a year, usually leaning more towards a full year. Sometimes it can take as long as 18 months. Earlobes are generally considered to take about 3 months. You're healing a hole in your body with a foreign object inserted so it takes a while for it recover completely, especially to develop a strong fistula. The entire healing time is not necessarily going to be like the first week though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Jun 2013, 06:07
I think my concern is that a crotch piercing that takes a long time to heal is going to be rough - I can't just clean it in the office bathroom mirror when I need to. I dunno. I definitely like the look and idea of it, I just need to really mull it over. Which is what I do with all my piercings anyway.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Jun 2013, 06:09
Well, keep in mind you really shouldn't be cleaning a piercing more than once or twice a day anyways barring a crusty getting in there. Christ I hate when that happens.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Jun 2013, 06:15
I seem to get crusties in my piercings a lot. I have to clean my bridge often - with just a q-tip and hot water - to get them out. Not as much these days, as it is almost healed, but when it was new I definitely had to.

I know that any piercing comes with pain, discomfort, and a healing period that will be no fun. I just have to decide if I'm okay with those things in that area of my body.

I think I'm just going to put it at the bottom of my list of wanted mods and think about it a while.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Jun 2013, 06:19
Seems like a perfectly fine idea. I actually imagine one of the biggest issues for most folks who get a Christina is re-learning how to shave the pubic mound.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Jun 2013, 06:53
Yeah that's a huge concern for me. I won't get into the TMI details but I already have a rough time with it. But that's a concern with any crotch piercing I may get.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 15 Jun 2013, 15:33
Talked with a guy who I forgot to ask the name of because I'm silly about my tattoo idea. He seemed to like it and thought it would be grand but I wasn't ready to book it and he was totally class about it. Also got two holes in my left ear and now I'm symmetrical again!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Jun 2013, 08:13
Pictuuuurrrres!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 08:17
I'm thinking of getting a tattoo someday, but I don't know of what.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 16 Jun 2013, 11:23
Clearly you want a tattoo of pintsize wearing a bowler hat.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 11:25
Hmm...no, I don't suppose I do. Anyway, I'm not gonna get a tattoo until I reach my goal weight.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 16 Jun 2013, 11:42
I think you want Batman facepalming at 9/11

(http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/8743.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 11:43
Batman may be involved. Probably not though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 16 Jun 2013, 14:19
Talked to my artist, he digs the idea of space with words in it, probably gonna be 2 sessions and rolling with some deep colors. I'm excite. Gonna be in September at the earliest since he is booked out until then.

I've just got to make sure I get it done by mid October to keep up the trend I've had since I was 18 (with one exception) of getting a tattoo at least once a year.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 14:22
Holy shit I have to see the corgi flop tattoo. Especially since that's where I'll probably get my first tattoo (not sure which leg, but probably that part of the leg, so it's covered by pants but not by shorts).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 16 Jun 2013, 15:03
Fuck yeah, SCIENCE!!!

New Coating Makes Silicon Circuits Implantable in Human Tissue (http://www.medgadget.com/2013/06/new-coating-makes-silicon-circuits-implantable-in-human-tissue.html)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 16 Jun 2013, 15:43
Ear photos. Left is last night. Right is just taken.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7c2254d4c691e3e82109632900b05b6f/tumblr_moic80UnDk1qjk0hmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Jun 2013, 15:44
Welu, I love how they look! What size are they?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 15:46
Looks good!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 16 Jun 2013, 15:50
Thanks! I'm really glad to have the same number in both ears again.

I think they're 16g, isn't that standard-ish? I didn't ask for any size and now I feel silly for not knowing.  :oops:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 16:08
18 or 16 are standard (approximately 1mm).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Jun 2013, 16:10
18g is standard for basic earrings. Generally you get a larger size in cartilage piercings, at least when you get them from reputable piercing shops. My guess is that they're 14g. And Welu, your piercer should have told you!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 16 Jun 2013, 16:13
I never questioned not being told the size. Other than that I think everything was good but it is something to think about next time.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Jun 2013, 16:14
Well, even piercers make mistakes sometimes. That's a pretty small one in the scheme of things. You can always call and ask about it if you're curious.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 16 Jun 2013, 16:26
Thinking about it he may not have said the size because he pierced me before. He didn't remember me but when he asked what I wanted I showed him the ones he did before and said I wanted the same placement on the other side. I was wearing studs and he said, "I would do this with a ring." and I said, "Yeah, I know. You did these ones before for me." He was kind of casual about repeating the cleaning information, since the ones I have are healed fine and he was all, "You know how to do it," but he did tell me it all again and gave the same pamphlet.
I could just be giving a lot of benefit of the doubt because he is very cute and friendly though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 16 Jun 2013, 18:51
Holy shit I have to see the corgi flop tattoo.
Ask and ye shall recieve
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564944_10151307663607317_649596097_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 16 Jun 2013, 18:51
What a page break
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zingoleb on 16 Jun 2013, 19:02
it makes me hurt that an asshole like you has a tattoo that great
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 20:26
I don't know how well you guys know each other, but in case you're actually calling Jace an asshole, well...
Moderator Comment no personal insults
. That is a great tattoo though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zingoleb on 16 Jun 2013, 20:28
is it an insult if it's a) true and b) self-admitted
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2013, 20:31
A. Yes
B. The way you said it, still yes

That's all I'll say on the matter. This goes for everyone, no personal insults.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Jun 2013, 19:37
I got super awesome new jewelry for my stretched ears!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/972264_10151505848232717_1189054692_n.jpg)

Also I was considering stretching them again... but I am hoping to get the blowouts removed at some point. And I just got a ton of fancy new jewelry. So I'm going to hold off on that for now. I was playing with some extra jewelry I have and stretched my second earlobe piercings from 8g to 6g without any effort whatsoever. So I think I will focus on them for now. I think I'll go to 4g and stop - going bigger would risk my other ear piercings and I don't want to do that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 19 Jun 2013, 11:52
I lurve giant chunky lobe jewelry.

If anyone is interested, Erik Sprague (aka The Lizardman) guested on The Battery Podcast a couple of days ago.

The Battery Podcast 86: Erik Sprague, Lizardman (http://www.thebatterypodcast.com/2013/06/the-battery-podcast-86-erik-sprague.html)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Jun 2013, 12:28
I got them from the Jewelry Exchange group for $15 and I want to make out with them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 19 Jun 2013, 13:23
Man, dat price is sexy.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 15:40
A couple years ago I was hanging out with a couple friends in the parking lot of a Wawa* having a midnight snack and someone mentioned a penguin on a hamster wheel. I don't know why. But right away I said "that would be a cool tattoo". I still kind of want it. At the very least, I think sometime this summer I'll go to a tattoo place and hire someone to sketch it up, to see if I can get an idea of it would look like I think it would.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 19 Jun 2013, 15:45
A penguin waddling along on a hamster wheel, or one belly surfing in an infinite loop? :P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2013, 16:11
Waddling, of course, with his head held high and his wings lifted up in the air. This would be a happy penguin, proud of making the hamster wheel move, even if only a little.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 19 Jun 2013, 16:21
Everybody loves a happy penguin!

Oh yeah, I'm not sure if anyone here will remember the jewelry company Fractal. They made some really high quality and complex pieces of jewellery. They went out of business several years ago and their jewellery is a rare, valuable and highly sought after by collectors, with some pieces going for as much as $1,000. Here's on of their more ridiculous pieces.

(http://news.bme.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/pubring/art/A30814/jesse/01.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 19 Jun 2013, 22:29
That looks like an excellent way of getting some unintended piercings.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Loki on 20 Jun 2013, 01:26
More business for them  :evil:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 20 Jun 2013, 10:35
Goddamnit BAF, stop showing me expensive and beautiful things!

Solid brass hoops with Tibetan agate (http://www.bodyartforms.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=14029)

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/14029_520.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 20 Jun 2013, 11:12
ohhhh mannnnnn
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 20 Jun 2013, 11:25
... nice.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 21 Jun 2013, 18:39
Another Sean Porter entry, this time about APP 2013

SPC: APP 2013 and the Best of Intentions (http://news.bme.com/2013/06/21/spc-app2013-and-the-best-of-intentions/#more-44834)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 24 Jun 2013, 22:19
I was reminded that this seminar existed, so here is Lepht talking about the biohacking movement.

Cybernetics for the Masses (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APOAmxFEMkQ)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 25 Jun 2013, 02:39
That looks fascinating =D

*sits down to watch*

EDIT: just finished the vid. very educational. also, i love that girl.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 25 Jun 2013, 13:23
One thing to point out about biohacking is that it's not something most people should attempt at a DIY level. It's dangerous, painful, requires other people you trust to at least supervise, some knowledge of how to do it safely (Lepht is one of the better ones, but she does some insanely unsanitary procedures) and has a relatively high potential to end up with a trip to the ER. Not to mention the possibility of mental health concerns that Doctors may have. In the countries with a proper medical system you have a much better options for this, but in the US you've got to be a bit more financially stable with insurance (and a good excuse) and/or be willing to go into medical debt. I've done my own magnet implant before, but that's about the extent that I'd be willing to work on myself in the future without more first hand experience.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 25 Jun 2013, 13:59
And that was with me resisting, because he was uninsured.  We did a lot of planning though.

We worked out what each step would be and what alternate next steps would be if something went wrong (Can't get the incision to stay closed, can't get the magnet in, Steve passes out, I pass out, etc).
We talked through the plan dozens of times, so we both knew what each step was and were confident we were prepared.
We had all the materials we would need for each step laid out in easy reach.
We had an agreement ahead of time about when to seek medical help, both during the procedure, and during the healing. 


My heart was still going triple speed, and I don't think I stopped worrying for days.  My biggest fear was infection, since getting him antibiotics would be a pain.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 25 Jun 2013, 14:42
Yeah, I lack the pain tolerance and self confidence to DIY bio hacking. Knock me out,  drug/drunk me up,  or tie me down (any of the three) and I'll be fine, but I have this massive mental block to inflicting physical pain on myself. Just can't do it even when it's for my own good
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 25 Jun 2013, 14:45
Note: Don't get drunk up before allowing someone to break skin, alcohol is a blood thinner.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Jun 2013, 14:47
Yeah that's no good. I worry about taking any non-prescribed medications before any similar procedure, though I will be doing some research before my tongue splitting, concerning medicine.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 25 Jun 2013, 14:48
I'm pretty sure IbProufen is fine, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 25 Jun 2013, 14:57
The problem here is my family on my dad's side has really good immune systems. Bad thing about that is it also comes hand in hand with drug resistance. My dad has (through no fault of his own) built up a mild immunity to many types of prescription painkillers. Which means he basically goes into any medical situation able to feel everything. Ibuprofen does not do very much to me,  at least in "safe" doses.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zingoleb on 25 Jun 2013, 15:05
i'm actually strongly considering doing a stick n poke for my first tattoo, since it's a design of my own. i just want to be the one who does it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 26 Jun 2013, 05:19
Drew a design last night. It has words. Now I'm looking up fonts because my handwriting is terrible.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 26 Jun 2013, 08:49
I'm a big fan of uncial...

(http://www.identifont.com/samples/monotype-imaging/AureusUncial.gif)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 26 Jun 2013, 15:19
My go to font is Palatino Linotype. In this case I'm looking for something creepy/whimsical. This is the only thing to get into the Maybe list so far.

(http://i.imgur.com/MnqOwro.png) (http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/autographis/xan/)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 26 Jun 2013, 16:13
Very 'Buffy ...'.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 30 Jun 2013, 04:22
Hung out with my tattoo artist playing some magic the gathering yesterday. Ended up chatting some about tattoos. Gonna squeeze in some small ones on the sides of my forearms before sept when we do the space one. Also since I'm unlikely to get back to Phoenix, he'll probably color in the snake I have.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 30 Jun 2013, 16:37
Oh hey, going back to biohacking for a second...

Man Creates Invisible Headphones by Implanting Magnets Into His Ears (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/06/man-creates-invisible-headphones-by-implanting-magnets-into-his-ears/)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jun 2013, 16:39
That is just too cool.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 02 Jul 2013, 16:47
Aaaahhhhh yisssssssss. I got some 1 1/16" (27mm) solid plugs in. The first thing I noticed its how incredibly heavy they are compared to eyelets.

Will post pics of it and my 2g septum pincer later.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 02 Jul 2013, 19:58
1 1/16" (27mm) plugs and 2g (6mm) Septum. I have a beautiful smile.

(http://i.imgur.com/6k7ddNR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/y7nA8Vk.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Jul 2013, 20:19
And lovely eyes, as well. 






Now stop trying to eat my soul. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 03 Jul 2013, 15:11
Really liking the septum jewellery.

Also, eyes, yes. I'm reminded didn't you want to get your scleras tattooed?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 03 Jul 2013, 15:16
At some point in the future, yes.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Jul 2013, 20:19
I love the weight of solid plugs, especially stone. Are those glass?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 03 Jul 2013, 20:29
Yup. I've been using glass eyelets for a while because I had a tear and was stretching back up on the cheap. The weight is a welcome thing, but it was a bit shocking after wearing eyelets for so long.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Jul 2013, 20:38
My new stone plugs managed to piss off my ears so badly that I have to leave my jewelry out for a couple weeks at least, at which point they'll probably be back to 00g. Sadface. Where were you getting your glass eyelets?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 03 Jul 2013, 20:40
Here (http://www.bodyartforms.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=2900). Lots of sizes, very light and pretty cheap. Also, you're 1" right? If so, I'm going to guess you would be able to start back up with 1/2". Don't take that for gospel mind you, everyone's different, but it's a pretty likely bet.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 03 Jul 2013, 21:11
Neko, is there anything you can coat the contact surfaces of the stone with? 

Clear nail polish?  Polyurethane?  Turtle wax? 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 03 Jul 2013, 21:14
Unless it was a iron ore stone or something I doubt it was the stone itself that caused the issue, though it could have been a scratched surface or something. Was it sharp flares, too big a flare or something?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 04 Jul 2013, 05:34
They ended up being pretty low quality, but they seemed fine - cracked and chipped on the surfaces but the wearable felt smooth enough. So I'm honestly not sure what happened.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 04 Jul 2013, 09:11
Here (http://www.bodyartforms.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=2900). Lots of sizes, very light and pretty cheap. Also, you're 1" right? If so, I'm going to guess you would be able to start back up with 1/2". Don't take that for gospel mind you, everyone's different, but it's a pretty likely bet.

You are correct, I was at an inch. But the left one is SO pissed off... there was blood. It's already way down. The right one may stop at 1/2", but I'm guessing the left will be much smaller. It sucks, I have fancy new jewelry coming in that I won't be able to wear for a very long time. :(
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Jul 2013, 22:40
Good luck either way. It's frustrating, but stretching back up to your proper size tends to be much much easier, thankfully.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 08 Jul 2013, 11:31
I have like no money but these were being sold used on the Facebook jewelry exchange group and I bought them and I cannot fucking wait to get them.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/09/a7eha4am.jpg)

I still have not tried to put any plugs in. Lefty is definitely way smaller than righty. But yeah I've always had an easier time stretching back up, so hopefully it won't take a crazy long time.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Jul 2013, 08:47
Wait, so those are plugs?  Could you hang other dangly things from the holes? 

Or are they basically earrings, and the lobe goes through the slot and they dangle? 

They're very pretty, either way...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 09 Jul 2013, 15:12
They're earrings. Though they'd be beautiful as plugs.

Ebony wood, 30 grams per earring. I just have to get my ears back to 1/2" and I can wear them. Both are currently at 00g, just need to figure out what I can wear next.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jul 2013, 01:09
just walk around with your pinkies jammed in your earlobes for a few weeks
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jul 2013, 01:14
also what defines a body mod? i have a lot of plans for things i want to do with my body, and some of them aren't what people would think of when they hear the words 'body mod' but they're still important to me - one being losing a lot of weight, the other being bleaching my skin.

no, i'm not approaching either of these things lightly. i'm aware of the dangers and i'm trying to work out how to minimise them as best as i can, but the fact still remains that my ultimate desire is to look unhuman - too tall, too pale, too skinny, too androgynous.

so would my desire to lose weight so as to gain a gaunt, unsettling appearance be considered a form of body modification or not? would bleaching my skin to become unnaturally pale?

and if so, then where is the line drawn - would exercises that shape or tone your body be considered a form of body modification at well? they change the way you look, but it doesn't seem right to lump them in with body mods.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 12 Jul 2013, 01:31
I would consider them all forms of body modification, up to and including something as simple as hair coloring and shaping your nails. If its something done willingly with absolute consent and for no necessary medical reason (though even this can have exceptions), its a body mod as far as I'm concerned, even if I wouldn't call it such in normal conversation. The only reason there is any real difference between much of it is due to social taboos and class issues.

Basically, it's much like the difference between 'vanilla' sex and kink. It's a rather thin and blurry line that may not actually exist in any meaningful way.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 17 Jul 2013, 11:08
I think it has to do with the "socially acceptable" thing again.  I mean, look at bodybuilders - if that's not modding, what is? 

And the "acceptable" ones - breast implants, plastic surgery, ear piercings - none are really more extreme than a lot of what's considered more "extreme" modding, it's just a matter of where you put the implants, what effect the surgery has on how you look, the number and size of the piercings...

Of course, the goal of a lot of the socially acceptable ones is just to look "more natural" (often a target that gets missed, though). 

And really, things like tattoos and piercings are becoming more common / socially acceptable every year. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 17 Jul 2013, 13:21
Well, on the spectrum of Body Modification I'd actually place professional body building and plastic surgery pretty damn high in comparison to even some of the comparable BM things. The amount of risk associated with plastic surgery and the amount of sheer dedication required for bodybuilding are insanely high when compared to a large majority of extreme BM.

But I do suspect a majority of folks would have the spectrum weighted towards social acceptability (aka weirdness) being the more extreme end. This would make things that make you look less 'human' be much more extreme despite the usually much lower risks and healing associated with it. Part of this is because medical doctors won't do many of the procedures, making people think they're much riskier than they actually are. Of course this doesn't keep plastic surgery addicts who don't look entirely human anymore, despite (or in some cases such as the human Ken doll, because of) their intentions, from being put into the 'weird' category.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Blue Kitty on 17 Jul 2013, 18:01
What You Need to Know About Getting Magnetic Finger Implants (http://io9.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-getting-magnetic-finger-imp-813537993)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 19 Jul 2013, 07:29
I have a hard enough time working with a magnetic screwdriver - always sticking where I don't want it to...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Jul 2013, 10:10
Has anyone here stretched cartilage piercings before?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 25 Jul 2013, 12:58
I stretched my nose from a 14g to a 8g
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Jul 2013, 13:20
As in nostril?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 25 Jul 2013, 15:39
No, septum.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Jul 2013, 15:53
Oh, okay. That's not cartilage. I've stretched mine as well, but only from 10g to 6g.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 25 Jul 2013, 17:12
Well it is cartilage but I guess not the one you mean.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Jul 2013, 18:12
It's actually not cartilage, assuming your septum was pierced in the same spot as most. There is a "sweet spot" near the bottom of that part that is just skin.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 25 Jul 2013, 19:12
Checked, it is right on the border of the cartilage,  actually touching it. Which explains why it still hurts to bump my nose even though I've had this for over 3 years.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 26 Jul 2013, 18:02
Yep. I've had mine for something like 9 years now (holy fuck.) and it still hurts to bump it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 26 Jul 2013, 18:07
Strangely enough, mine is through the cartilage and bumping it doesn't seem to cause me any pain.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 26 Jul 2013, 18:08
I think the difference is that yours is through the cartilage and will feel like any other cartilage piercing, and ours are just near the cartilage, so when they're bumped the jewelry hits the cartilage and hurts.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Jul 2013, 21:49
New tragus piercings :D

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/28/uvuge2ub.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/28/pevu2y7e.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 28 Jul 2013, 04:39
Very nice. Tragus is on my to-do list.

I like the flowers earrings.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: cesium133 on 28 Jul 2013, 06:57
From the news thing at the top of the forum page:
Quote
News:first person to get forums.questionablecontent.net tattooed on their body and present photo evidence gets a free t-shirt

Who's going to try this? (I'm not)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Jul 2013, 07:10
I wonder if anyone would write it on with a pen and claim it as a tattoo. Would Jeph be able to tell the difference?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Jul 2013, 08:42
Welu, they barely even hurt. It was the easiest piercing I've ever gotten.

And marker is much brighter and darker than a tattoo would be. He didn't say it couldn't be a temporary tattoo though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 29 Jul 2013, 09:27
Arg they itch so much and they are not painful in the least but boy are they annoying.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 30 Jul 2013, 00:13
Not to attack anybody's taste, but I never got what the appeal of tunnels (are they called tunnels? I'm just gonna keep calling them that until someone corrects me...) is. I can appreciate most piercings and am a big fan of tattoos anyway, but I just don't like tunnels. Whenever I see them I have to imagine what the ear would look like without the plugs and it creeps me out. :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2013, 00:21
Tunnels I think refer specifically to plugs that with a hole in the center, while you seem to be bothered by large plugs in general.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 30 Jul 2013, 00:27
I think they're called gauges?  The name comes from the sizing system, also used for wire and a few other things. 

And upon checking, they're also called flesh tunnels, which sounds creepy. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 30 Jul 2013, 00:30
Yeah, tunnels (technically the proper term is eyelets) are things like this:

(http://anatometal.com/z-pPics/jewelry-bullet-eyelets_0019.jpg)

Plugs are solid, like this:

(http://www.isbodyjewelry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Inlay-Eyelets-14.jpg)

Gauges is definitely a common slang term for plugs and eyelets, but it's a term that's not well thought of by a lot of the community.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2013, 00:37
Randomly thought a nerdy idea for a tattoo (but not one I'd ever get). The tattoo would be 127.0.0.1 and it would be on the chest. "Home is where the heart is", after all.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 30 Jul 2013, 00:43
Thanks for the correction.
Back to my question though. What's the appeal of gauges? What exactly do you like about them?
Obviously my viewpoint is biased with me not liking how they look, but I'd still like to understand why one chose to get that particular body mod.

MoM: I like that one. Another idea (with less deeper meaning) I was thinking about for a long time is 101010 - the binary code for 42.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2013, 00:46
I still want a dire wolf tattoo with "winter is coming". That'll probably be my first one.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 30 Jul 2013, 00:51
I think the easy answer is because we do like how they look.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 30 Jul 2013, 01:12
I figured as much, guess I just hoped to hear what it is, that you like about the look. But I realize that such things are difficult - if at all - to explain.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 30 Jul 2013, 04:41
I like having larger holes in my ear. For one, I like how it looks*. Second, I am allergic to nickel and most metal jewelry irritates my piercings. (I had major infections when I had my ears pierced when I was little, to the point I had to just let them close up. I got them re-pierced at a 10g a few years ago.) Having larger piercings allows me to wear organic materials (glass, stone, and wood), which you can't with the normal piercing size. So mostly it's a thing of convenience so I can wear jewelry I want to wear. I am currently at a 4g and plan on staying there because I've got lots of options when it comes to jewelry. Also at this size, most people can't even tell my piercings are gauged, unless I'm wearing hanging styles.

*I tend to favor gauges below 00 only because I just think they look better aesthetically. But that doesn't mean I don't envy the beauty of the jewelry that the largest sizes have, because I do.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Jul 2013, 07:06
The term you're looking for is 'stretched ears'. Tunnels, plugs, eyelets, etc refer to the jewelry worn in stretched ears. And gauges, while a common term for sure, is incorrect - it's like calling them inches or millimeters. It's the system of measurement used to determine the size, that's all. Plus, after 00g (3/8" diameter, I think?), we no longer use the gauge system.

My ears are currently at 7/8" diameter. I'll be stretching back to 1" soon, and hopefully moving on to 1 1/2" eventually. I absolutely love how they look. I like that I can wear a ton of beautiful and interesting jewelry. I like that the bottom of my ear is closer to the size of the top of my ear - it's a balance/symmetry thing for me. Those are the only reasons I can really quantify.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Jul 2013, 09:57
I think the easy answer is because we do like how they look.
Beauty is in ...

I'd just be freaking that they'd get caught on stuff and rip out and it'll bleed and infect and be a mess.

So ... Do they catch on stuff?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Jul 2013, 10:08
Every other piercing I have gets caught more than any of my four stretched earlobe piercings. Sure, they get caught. And sometimes that can have disastrous consequences. But it's pretty rare, if you're careful of yourself and your surroundings. For example, I always warn anyone cutting my hair that I have piercings. I also wear solid plugs to get my hair cut. It's pretty damn unlikely that anything would happen, but I prefer to be prepared.

My lip piercing, when I had it, got caught all the fucking time. It was stretched as well, but not much.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2013, 10:14
Beauty is in...
the ear of the beholder?  :parrot:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 30 Jul 2013, 10:58
Honestly, 'traditional' earrings are more likely to get caught or tear.  This is sometimes called the "cheese wire effect"  when you have large dangling earrings hanging from a  18 or 20 gauge wire, the force of the earring getting caught on things can actually allow it to slowly (or in sever cases quickly) cut through your lobe.  In a stretchered piercing the force is spread out and so a tear is much less likely. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Jul 2013, 11:01
The cheese cutter effect is one of many reasons that I don't generally get piercings below 10g.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 31 Jul 2013, 14:00
Oh, and since it was brought up, healthy lobes don't look bad when naked. Of course, if the idea of a hole in the body gives you the heebie jeebies then it doesn't really matter if they look healthy or not. My ears are a little dry and flaky because they're fresh out of the shower, dried and pre-oiled.

(http://i.imgur.com/ox8xsvR.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7aHPCxx.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 31 Jul 2013, 14:57
Mine are not so pretty, since I stretched them way too far when I had no idea what I was doing. But I'm hoping to get the blow-outs scalpelled off, along with some of the worst of the scar tissue. Then I can have pretty lobes that stretch on their own again.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 01 Aug 2013, 00:30
I gotta admit, that doesn't look nearly as bad as I imagined it. In my mind they always were kinda dangling there, if you know what I mean. I didn't think they would keep their shape after the plugs were taken out.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 01 Aug 2013, 01:23
They definitely do once you get past a certain point. I'm at 1 1/8" (27mm).

This is Shannon Larrat. He stopped wearing jewelry in his 2" lobes a few years before he died because he liked the naked lobes.

(http://wiki.bmezine.com/images/4/45/ShannonLarratt.jpg)

And then there's Bear. Bear's ears are just ridiculous and he's got the largest stretched lobes in the world. He's gotten back up to 5 1/2" last I checked and he has no plans to stop. None of these are super recent, but they show them off pretty well.

(http://a1.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/b12d1d6745a1a140fbe5df04ff1fd581/l.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lapj4uqJ8P1qdtb3eo1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpq80zoIa11qmvl11o1_500.png)

(http://biggeststuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/largest-ear-gauges.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: kelpy on 01 Aug 2013, 08:48
I want to get a few small things done. small ear tunnel, helix studs, lowbret. and I guess I'd kinda like a willow tree on my side
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 01 Aug 2013, 13:05
... Okay, that's large.

White tattoos or something on the gentleman's face?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 01 Aug 2013, 15:04
Shannon had white ink tattoos, yes.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Aug 2013, 20:30
Another new piercing :D

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/04/a4ypera7.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2013, 21:41
I'm guessing the gum one? I can't imagine having the septum pierced that big.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Aug 2013, 22:10
Yup, it's called a smiley piercing. My septum was pierced at 10g (2.5mm) and is now 6g (4mm), and you're right, it couldn't be pierced at that size with a regular beveled needle. It can be "punched" with an o-needle or dermal punch, but that would remove skin.

But yeah I am loving the smiley. It's barely even sore. Eating should be interesting for a little while.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2013, 23:06
Re: Bear, he has the biggest stretched lobes but I wonder who has the biggest solid plugs in their ears.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 04 Aug 2013, 00:30
Somewhere, someone is walking around with hubcaps.

I kind of like the white ink tattoos. Certainly a different look.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 04 Aug 2013, 03:08
I really like the smiley with the septum. It's like a big brother and a baby piercing. :-D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 04 Aug 2013, 06:52
Not a fan.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 04 Aug 2013, 07:30
I've never heard of a smiley before, but it's super cute. Now you have a little surprise when you smile!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 04 Aug 2013, 07:40
Exactly! I love that it's hidden until I choose to show it off. And I definitely love that, Welu. My ex said it reminds him of the Alien with the tiny head inside its mouth...? Apparently it was a compliment. Who knows.

Also, on Bear's ears, he probably has a set of solid plugs. I bet they're heavy as fuck, but I'm sure he has them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Aug 2013, 09:34
I want more tattoos! Seriously this shit's addicting. The way things are going I'm gonna end up looking like an odd combo of a biker and a malay warrior.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2013, 09:39
How many do you have so far?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Aug 2013, 09:46
Four, they're mostly concealed for now, but I keep considering more....
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 04 Aug 2013, 11:01
Great, now I'm imagining GM having a Prince Albert
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 04 Aug 2013, 12:06
But that's not a tattoo... :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 04 Aug 2013, 12:08
OH! He was talking about tattoos!

Maybe that was just wishful thinking on my part.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 04 Aug 2013, 12:57
Sometimes I wish I was totally covered in tattoos but I quickly chicken out of that idea. More because of the getting them than the having and showing them. Although I do have an idea for most of my forearm but I'll probably end up getting it on my upper arm.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 04 Aug 2013, 14:07
I imagine Bear has a couple sets of solid plugs, but I'm not actually aware of anyone who wears wears them once you get to about the 3" mark. If they do, I imagine it would have to be a particularly light material such as teflon (I think it's lighter than most woods). That and they're likely worn in a manner similar to ear weights, which aren't supposed to be worn for more than a hour or two at a time.

Solid Plugs in the ultra large sizes are generally novelty purchases. They make amazing show pieces for stores as well due to the amount of detail they can be crafted with.

Edit: Also I like the smiley neko.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 04 Aug 2013, 14:20
that looks mighty uncomfortable, neko  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 04 Aug 2013, 21:21
It was super uncomfortable at first, because it felt like my lip was sticking out really far. But now that it's settled, it's only a little weird, and I'm getting more and more used to it.

The gross thing is that the bead sits right between my teeth, and of course my gums have conformed to it so I have a little indent right there. I move it every once in a while to make sure nothing gets stuck, though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Aug 2013, 17:24
So, I was thinking about the talk earlier about some of the physical risks of stretched earlobes and I thought maybe I should bring the things that are real concerns for people with stretched lobes to get rid of some of the assumptions and give you new reasons to be horrified.

So, as mentioned before, catching your lobes on things isn't really a big concern for most. Clearly the larger you've stretched, the bigger the possibility, but as anyone with them can tell you, they basically become extensions of your mental self. You're pretty much always know where they are and they're not really at much risk. It happens, but outside of something like a car crash it's rare. Of course in those cases your ears are not really of much concern because they're not what's causing you to bleed out and die like your other injuries. The real problems tend to come from bad stretching practices and weather related conditions.

So, the most common issue with stretching poorly tends to be micro-tears and normal tearing of the earlobe's fistula (aka the skin tunnel in the piercing). These tears can not only lead to infection, but can also lead to hypertrophic scarring (which makes future stretching more difficult and can cause what's referred to as catbutt (http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii9/blowoutslideshow/catbuttprimeexample.jpg) in piercings), blowouts (http://25.media.tumblr.com/f932295d575a57cc2538a468b163eab5/tumblr_mfikko5WtG1r50d9uo1_500.jpg) (Example 2 (http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcToYDmuVr-TvinKyhSK0Nx0VF_mK6Hsn8CUrpDplLx3rDKqoqzkgA)) (scar tissue that has stretched a bit out the back of the lobe), or even cartilage collapse (http://wiki.bme.com/images/6/68/Ear_Collapse-1.jpg). The general rule is to wait 1 - 3 months between stretches and never use acrylic, organics (such as wood) or silicone to stretch with. Acrylic and most organics are porous, so there's no way to properly sanitize them and wood tends to be a bit 'sticky', for lack of a better word. It kind of latches onto skin due to how porous it is. With healed ears, this is not an issue at all and actually does a good job of making them less likely to come out at inconvenient times. While stretching, it just increases your chance of tearing, harboring bacteria in the pores and getting an infection.

Silicone is a terrible thing to stretch with for a hell of a lot of reasons. Silicone eyelets are incredibly comfortable to wear, but they tend to draw the moisture out of the lobe pretty quickly so you have to have a pretty strict oiling regime to wear them regularly. There's also the issue that some poeple think they're clever and put the next size up in to stretch with. It sounds good on paper, but it's asking for problems. Almost guaranteed tearing, dryness, yada yada yada. Some people can pull it off, but there's always going to be someone who can heal just about anything stupid they try to do to their body.

The other big issue is something called 'thinning lobes'. This can happen when you stretch too quickly and the fistula and lobe doesn't have time to heal inbetween stretches, or even because of badly placed piercings. It's basically exactly like it sounds. A spot in the lobe is noticeably thinner than the rest, and when you stretch, it's the easiest place for the lobe to stretch, so it keeps getting a little bit thinner every time you go up a size until it's at a point where it can cause real problems. At the worst points it can snap or that area of the lobe can lose enough circulation that it goes necrotic. It's just the earlobe so it's not typically a major problem health wise, but it's incredibly gross and easily avoidable. No reason you should have to have your earlobe repaired or removed because you're an impatient jackass.

There's also a much rarer occurrence called Keloid scarring. Now, people will commonly call things like piercing bumps keloids, but they're wrong. Keloids are a type of scar tissue that has grown out of control, like here (http://www.pediatricsconsultant360.com/sites/default/files/images/1201CFP_PCKeloid_LEar.jpg) and here (http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT4Z4Y9biDhd2QQTmUQmfaqWY37ZCVUkBnqh4ZIsgQViJKoP7PplA). There are much more extreme examples, but you get the idea. It's a type of scarring that is pretty rare in general, but is much more common in ethnicities with darker skin tones. They can only really be treated with surgical removal and/or steroids and aren't unique to piercings.

If you're careful, patient and make absolutely certain the jewelry you're using to stretch is the right size, and that it's good quality, there's not a lot of problems you should run into. Shit happens sometimes, but it's easily minimized. Now onto weather related issues!

This is something where it's mostly just those of us who have larger sized piercings need to worry about. Lobes are the biggest concern here, so I'll stick with them. Since the lobes have a much smaller surface area in any specific location after stretching, they tend to burn and freeze much easier than normal. The biggest concern for this is for those of us in a goddamn winter fuckery location. During the winter, we need to do several things to avoid possible frostbite on the lobes. These can include the normal stuff like wearing a hat or muffs that cover them (though our options are a lot more limited there) and wearing non-metal jewelry, preferably wood. Steel and Titanium jewelry runs a pretty big risk of getting damn cold and speeding up frostbite if you're not careful, so it's best to just not wear it during the cold season. Glass can also do so, but not quite as badly. Wood on the other hand, is a great insulator and will help keep your lobes warm. It's basically perfect for cold weather.

I think everyone here knows what can happen with frostbitten limbs, and it's no different for the earlobes. Once again, it's not likely to be a horrible life threatening experience because it's just your earlobes, but it's still pretty damn shitty.

So yeah, those are the real concerns with stretched piercings and lobes. It's pretty easy to avoid most of it, but things do happen and there are definitely stupid people out there.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 06 Aug 2013, 05:00
That was really informative. Thanks so much for writing it. Do you mind if I copy and paste that for future sharing?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: kelpy on 06 Aug 2013, 05:47
this is why I'm glad I'm only gonna get teeny tiny plugs/tunnels, around the 2 or 3mm mark. That way I don't have to be scared of accidentally overstretching, or getting stuff caught in it and if I want I can get flesh colored plugs and have it look natural. I've heard it said that your average piercer's limit is about 6ga, is this correct, or am I misinformed?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 06 Aug 2013, 06:50
Great info, thanks!! I'm completely fascinated by stretched lobes.


I'm thinking of attempting new piercings soon. I really want another tattoo, but it's just not in the cards bank account. Now......do I want to re-try the industrial, go for second holes in my lobes or do something less common? My ears are a bit wonky (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3764/9452219086_318306ff12_z.jpg)*, so it's hard for me to figure out what will look good/not get "angry". I loved my industrial, but when I got it done initially, the bar was incredibly awkward and pulled in a weird way. I don't know if it's because the piercer did something wrong or my ears are just not meant for that kind of piercing.




*After some Googling, it appears that I have a "prominent ear with no antihelix fold". Also- excuse the face paint haha, it's the only semi-decent photo of my ear that I have. :-P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 06 Aug 2013, 07:00
Could you get a better picture for us? We might be able to give you some ideas.

Industrials are a complex piercing, because you have a perfectly straight bar with not-perfectly-straight anatomy. They have to be very carefully marked and pierced. I'm guessing your piercer made a mistake there, though there's no way to know. Is there an APP-certified piercer in your area? This link will help you search:

http://www.safepiercing.org/locate-a-member/searchable-member-database/

I would trust these piercers above others, for sure. You can be reasonably sure that they know what they're doing, and will do their best to give you a piercing that will heal properly.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Aug 2013, 07:34
That was really informative. Thanks so much for writing it. Do you mind if I copy and paste that for future sharing?

Sure, I got no problem with that. It's a bit messy and I think it's pretty clear that writing isn't my strong point though. :P

this is why I'm glad I'm only gonna get teeny tiny plugs/tunnels, around the 2 or 3mm mark. That way I don't have to be scared of accidentally overstretching, or getting stuff caught in it and if I want I can get flesh colored plugs and have it look natural. I've heard it said that your average piercer's limit is about 6ga, is this correct, or am I misinformed?

Yup, 6g (4mm) is typically the largest they'll pierce at. I will warn you that once you've had them for a little while you might suddenly notice how tiny they look and if you only went a liiiittle bit bigger you can get more intricate and pretty jewelry! And then you suddenly realize you're at 1".

Industrial things

Along with what Neko said, some piercers actually prefer to pierce the two locations with separate jewelry to minimize irritation and migration during the healing process. It means you don't get to have the industrial look for a while, but if you're willing to do so it might help. I do think I'll disagree a little with trusting APP certified piercers above others, but it's certainly not a bad thing to use as a requirement. There are a lot of great piercers who don't get APP membership for various reasons, but it helps to know folks who know their shit to point you their way.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 06 Aug 2013, 07:47
Ugh, there isn't anyone within 50 miles of me! Funny thing is that one of the closest is in Northampton :-P Road trip!!

I'll try and sneak away from my desk to take a better photo.  :-)



(edited to add that I want these (http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/Accessories/Jewelry/Earrings/Pink+Unicorn+Earrings-388032.jsp?cm_mmc=CSE-_-GoogShop-_-Acq-_-Feed&source=CAPLA_DF:388032:HOT&CAWELAID=1932125800&cagpspn=pla&gclid=COqUyMyM6bgCFQSk4AodcWMAZw) so bad. For whatever reason, they popped up in image search results for "ear piercing diagram")
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 06 Aug 2013, 07:54
That is my personal opinion - I can understand why others may not feel the same way. But you may be able to call one of those ceritifed piercers and get a recommendation for a place closer to you.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 06 Aug 2013, 12:54
Wrt size of ear: I'm quite happy with 0g. Theres a huge amount of jewelry I can get and they are large enough that people know they're stretched but small enough that if I put in flesh tone plugs it just looks like I've got long lobes.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2013, 13:24
I had them stretched to 6g (4mm) with steel plugs in college, then let them shrink and now you can barely see anything. Part of me wants to repierce them, and if I did that, I'd probably get them pierced at 6g and maybe go up to 2 or maybe 0 eventually, and if flesh tone plugs work well enough to work with, I just might.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 06 Aug 2013, 13:27
I do kind of miss being at a small size. Jewelry is so much more expensive now. But I love my bigguns.

MoM, your ears may still be open, and just small. And I've been told that large beveled needles can cause unnecessary trauma to the piercing. So you might want an "o needle", which will remove tissue, but would be easier to heal and also remove the scar tissue from the old piercing.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2013, 14:05
Left ear (http://imageshack.us/a/img33/2618/mbu6.jpg). Right ear (http://imageshack.us/a/img20/6721/8el2.jpg). Left ear was pierced at 18 and gradually raised to 6 (18 to 14 to 12 to 10 to 8 to 6). The right ear was pierced at 8 soon after the left ear was stretched to 8, and was stretched to 6 when the left ear was. I took them both out after a few weeks at six and they shrunk to their current size rather quickly. I find it kind of interesting that the right piercing is almost invisible, despite being pierced at the higher size. Then again, maybe it's because it was only pierced for a couple months as opposed to a year or so.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 06 Aug 2013, 14:10
It wouldn't surprise me at all if you can still get an 18g earring in at least the left ear. The right ear is less likely.

And you can more easily see the one that was pierced at a small size because there is more scar tissue. The other ear was only stretched once, and developed very little scar tissue.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2013, 14:16
The left ear is misleading because as far as I can tell it's completely closed in the back (so if you put something through, it wouldn't be able to come through). Would it be unwise to repierce it, though?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Aug 2013, 21:12
Speaking of interesting larger gauge jewelry...

Glass lifesaver plugs (http://www.bodyartforms.com/productdetails.asp?Sale=OnSale&ProductID=14631&index=51)

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/3516.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 Aug 2013, 00:54
Somewhere in the next two months I'll be payed out the overtime I'm currently building up. That means that I'll have a relatively huge chunk of money that I don't need for living expenses, so I'd finally have the money for my first tattoo.
Problem is, I still can't decide on a motive. I'd like something unique and with some meaning, but my creativity as been on an all-year low recently.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 07 Aug 2013, 06:53
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Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 07 Aug 2013, 08:25
The left ear is misleading because as far as I can tell it's completely closed in the back (so if you put something through, it wouldn't be able to come through). Would it be unwise to repierce it, though?

I don't see why you couldn't get it re-pierced. You might want to see a piercer about it though, they can get a better look at it.

re lifesavers: they are gorgeous but I still have no idea how they look in-ear. I can't tell if I'd like them or not.
I should be receiving plugs like these (Modifika Smoke Chokes) in the mail shortly :D
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/b77cd8118d04f9302637757c74f21e6d/tumblr_mnsqhklZfp1rt72roo1_1280.jpg)

ChaoSera: What has meaning for you? What do you want to commemorate? Or, what do you think looks good? If you can come up with an idea, someone else can help you come up with an image.

And little cheese: it looks like you have a really nice ridge at the top there. You could do all sorts of interesting things with it. You could do the basic industrial again for sure, or get something like this:
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6eivsqILN1rvburco1_500.jpg)

It would still be awesome with just one bar. If you can find a piercer that will custom-bend jewelry, you can get a shape that you design yourself. As long as your ear can handle it, that is.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 09 Aug 2013, 00:23
Those Smoke Chokes are gorgeous!

This video isn't entirely related to Body Mods, but I'd argue it's Body Ritual, so it's going here.

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 09 Aug 2013, 06:34
Oh gosh wait until you see the ones I got. I'm in love. I can't wait to wear them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 10 Aug 2013, 04:18
Looks like Wisconsin has outright banned Subdermal Implants, Microdermals, Scalpel Scarification and Tongue Splits, as well as making Laser Tattoo Removal illegal unless under the supervision of a licensed physician.

(http://i.imgur.com/aNOyUuM.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Aug 2013, 05:25
There's always the hazard of infection when you break the skin, but this sounds like outright territorialism. 

Do you think this was pushed through by the medical community, or just some offended/scared legislators? 


Maybe a coalition...


After all, so long as the board of health ensures sterile protocols are used, the risk of infection's less than in a hospital...

Which isn't saying much, actually.  Where do you think things like MRSA developed?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 10 Aug 2013, 05:39
I'm assuming it was legislators who are offended by such things or just needed something that would be easy to pass with their name on it. I'm thinking I might look into it in the next few days to see if there was any news about it, but, I'm not going to discount the medical community's possible part in this. To be frank, the medical community is about as ignorant and reactionary to body modification as you can get outside of political entities. I've been told a number of times by doctors to get antibiotics for a fresh piercing because it was mildly red.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Aug 2013, 06:30
Right, because every medical practitioner knows irritation = infection. 

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Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Redball on 20 Aug 2013, 07:01
Thought of this thread today. (http://www.gocomics.com/speedbump/2013/08/20/)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 21 Aug 2013, 17:34
Oh my god, you guys. Stretching cartilage is awful. I just went from 8g to 6g (3mm to 4mm) with a well-healed, loosened piercing and it stings so much. It's calming down but jeez I don't see myself taking this too much further.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 21 Aug 2013, 17:37
Does anyone know a good and affordable tattoo artist in the Boston area? (The closer to Concord, NH the better, but Boston's not out of the question)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Aug 2013, 04:43
Arkansas has banned certain forms of tattoo and piercing, because.... there's no good reason actually.

http://politicalblindspot.com/bill-to-ban-certain-tattoos-body-piercings-passes-senate/
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 23 Aug 2013, 07:57
A ban on 'non-traditional' tattoos?

So, you can get an anchor or a ship or complete japanese body suit but not a misspelled Twilight quote? Or something?

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 23 Aug 2013, 08:21
That's actually outdated and it was never passed.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 23 Aug 2013, 13:21
If I'm reading correctly, it's banned subdermal implants unless done by a medical doctor (so in essence, banning them), but yeah. It got rewritten and all that fun stuff.

Still not happy with what was banned, but it's not to the level that Wisconsin went at least.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 02 Sep 2013, 06:45
No additional money coming in after all, so I won't be getting a tattoo any time soon. Guess the good part is I can think more about what I want to get done. I've come up with a new idea, but it's nowhere close to being finished yet. Also it would be huge and I'm not entirely sure if that's a good idea for a first tattoo. Also expensive.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Sep 2013, 09:54
I still really want one, but I still can't decide on one.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Sep 2013, 11:03
Oh noooooo, I went to put in an order for Plug Mittens (https://www.facebook.com/PlugMittens) for this winter and discovered they closed up shop 'until further notice' back in June.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 05 Sep 2013, 11:43
There are people that sell them used on the body jewelry exchange groups on Facebook.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 05 Sep 2013, 15:18
How do they stay on? Other than that, they look like a quite quick & simple knitting or crochet project.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 05 Sep 2013, 17:42
Steve, if you tell me what size you need, I could most likely crochet you a pair or two. They look pretty easy to make.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 07 Sep 2013, 05:43
Why do you need them? Is this specifically related to stretched lobes?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Sep 2013, 05:59
I imagine having something potentially heat conducting (especially metal!) in constant contact with a thin band of flesh could prove hazardous in the winter. 

Or at least mildly uncomfortable. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 07 Sep 2013, 06:41
Once your earlobes get above a certain size, having jewelry in them, wearing ear muffs or a hat doesn't cover them, then they freeze and break off.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Sep 2013, 06:46
Well, yeah, in Buffalo
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 07 Sep 2013, 06:47
And Michigan  :wink:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 07 Sep 2013, 07:04
Sound horrible.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 07 Sep 2013, 07:17
How do they stay on? Other than that, they look like a quite quick & simple knitting or crochet project.

As far as the mechanics of the plug mittens go, it seems to just be two circles slightly larger than the lobes, stitched together about 2/3 of the way around.  Done with stretchy enough yarn, they should slip right on but still stay in place. 

Lobe cozies. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 07 Sep 2013, 08:47
They have something stiff in them so that they operate a lot like a coin purse, squeeze the edges to open, let go and they shut. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 08 Sep 2013, 02:36
http://gawker.com/d-c-wants-you-to-think-on-that-ink-1270047962
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Sep 2013, 08:59
But... why? People make stupid decisions all the time and they have every right to do so!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2013, 09:36
Quote
It is completely oblivious to the fact that the entire industry is based off of people getting things done to them they later regret, but must wear as a testament to their inebriation.
...wow.

Edit: Also, in the comments was this picture as a reason to not get tattoos. I like how a lot of the responses were "I hope I look that awesome when I'm her age".
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Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 08 Sep 2013, 10:09
I just want to point out, that while the idea of getting a stupid tattoo while drunk is fairly common, no legitimate tattoo artist or piercer would do work on a someone who is drunk... 

This law is a stupid idea which really only serves to perpetuate negative ideas about tattoos and the people who get them.  It's solving a problem that doesn't really exist.  People who regret their tattoos don't usually do so with in 24 hours, unless it is because of the quality of work, which waiting to get it won't prevent... 

Also, fuck the people in the comments, which I should have known better than to read.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 08 Sep 2013, 11:11
I think the only time I've ever gotten a tattoo without having to wait anywhere from a week to a couple months is when I got my first one, and mostly I just got lucky and went into the shop and the dude who owned the shop was like "yeah I had someone cancel like 5 minutes ago."


Also fuck the comments and fuck people who think that because I have tattoos I'll be limited in getting a job.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2013, 13:58
Jace, I think you're right - there's less and less stigma that goes with having tattoos and piercings, I've seen it decline quite a bit over the years. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 09 Sep 2013, 14:05
Funnily enough, it tends to be low paying jobs that are the strictest about visible mods. For example, I lost my job last week (flyering for Dominoes, keep in mind) because even though my manager gave no shits, the franchise owner saw me and was none too fond of my appearance.

I'm supposed to have an interview with a vet clinic soon though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 09 Sep 2013, 15:58
My job seems to have no rules on tattoos. I, and a couple of other workers, have visible arm tattoos. Though they're really strict on piercings. I shouldn't even be wearing my cartilage piercings to work but they can't be seen because I wear my hair down, which I'm not meant to do either. I think they're only strict on piercings because they're removable.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 17:45
Pretty plugs!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/12/ery6aqyq.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 11 Sep 2013, 17:47
ooooooOOOOOOoooooo

Those are lovely.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 18:04
They are 1" lepidolite teardrops. I bought them used on FB a little while ago. Here is a better pic, taken by the person I bought them from:

(https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1175228_10202077288239745_231780392_n.jpg)

I loooove them. I've decided I really love the teardrop shaped plugs in general.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Sep 2013, 18:55
I've never seen anything but round before.  The teardrop's nice! 

But how "out-of-round" do plugs get?  Are there triangular or square ones?  How about stop signs (octagon)?  It seems with a large enough stretch, you could really have any shape you wanted...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Sep 2013, 18:57
I've seen various shapes, but the issue that comes up is how well the shape spreads out pressure on the ear. Teardrops are really about the only alt shape that's survived more than a few prototypes because there's no edges to put extra pressure on pin point locations.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Sep 2013, 19:04
I like them, they look like guitar picks.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 19:08
I've seen ovals do well, and very rounded triangles. I can see an octagon shape doing well if it's rounded enough, but I haven't seen them anywhere.

(http://www.diablobodyjewelry.com/bmz_cache/1/1b1992e78d46a6eee2b6d7a7a3e44313.image.150x150.jpg)

(http://anatometal.com/z-pPics/jewelry-super-ellipse-eyelets_0032.jpg)

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/oxht3.s9uqh/v/vspfiles/photos/triangle-tunnel-2.jpg)

Then there's coffin-shaped plugs:

(http://bodyartforms-gallery.bodyartforms.com/Bloodwood%20Coffin.jpg)

And heart-shaped, though the actual wearable part of the plug is a lot closer to round than the flares (the parts that stick out in front of and behind the earlobe:

(http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mKnGfTCcaWgtJyEsKuvGJBA.jpg)

Lastly, there are deer antler plugs, which have their own natural shape:

(https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1185962_10201935980662082_445578884_n.jpg)

There are square ones as well, but they almost always look too sharp at the corners to be comfortable or good for your ears.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 19:13
Oh look what I found:

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/8643A.jpg)

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/7563.jpg)

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/7750.jpg)

But yes as Stephen said, some of these plugs can put pressure on parts of the earlobe and that's a big no-no. So it depends on the size, how "fat" your earlobes are, how well they're made, etc.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 11 Sep 2013, 19:16
neko, those are really really pretty.

I love the teardrop shape, but 4g isn't really big enough to have fun with that shape. I'm currently happy with the size, but in the future that may change. :P I really need to find a decent pair of super spirals in 4g. I miss my old ones (https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/5251_665756137415_5782829_n.jpg).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 19:19
Bodyartforms has a butt-ton of stuff like that, Linds. And the benefit of smaller sizes is that you can still get super cute plugs with things like apples or pumpkins or bees on them! And you know, they're not nearly as expensive ;_;
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Sep 2013, 19:21
I had completely forgotten about oval plugs, but I'm really surprised anyone is still making triangle shaped plugs.

b]And you know, they're not nearly as expensive ;_;[/b]

So very much, that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 19:24
The basic triangle shape, like the plain black ones I posted first, don't seem popular at all. But the modified triangle, like the butterfly wing plugs, seem to be gaining popularity quickly because of Abaraka.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 11 Sep 2013, 19:28
Bodyartforms has a butt-ton of stuff like that, Linds.

Every time I go there, they only have basic spirals. I like the really tight ones.

But actually glancing at their website now, they do have a few pairs in wood and horn, but sadly no bone. And some pretty glass ones that are more than I want to spend...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 11 Sep 2013, 19:28
Butterfly plugs are gorgeous, but oh my god their price tags make me weep.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Sep 2013, 19:34
What about these, Linds? Not quite what you're looking for I think, but pretty all the same.

http://www.bodyartforms.com/productdetails.asp?ProductID=6783

Also definitely check back. They get new stuff often. And if you're looking for something super duper fancy, check out Somatic Glass. I love their mollusks and I want some SO BAD.

(http://bodyartforms-products.bodyartforms.com/8532A.jpg)

And yeah I am so damn jealous of people with the butterfly plugs.

Can we tell I've spent too much time looking at jewelry lately?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 11 Sep 2013, 19:37
I want the butterflies!  Also, I have a nice pair of opalite ovals which are like 13mm, so I will get to wear them again during this stretch:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img717/9495/plugs1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 12 Sep 2013, 06:10
Omg Neko all of those are gorgeous! I can't get enough of these beautiful pieces. Are the ones below the butterfly wings made of marble? I would imagine they would be so heavy!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Sep 2013, 06:21
Kat, I love those! Opalite is my favorite.

Little cheese, those plugs are actually colored wood, so they're not heavy at all. People regularly wear stone, though, which can be on the heavy side, for example if it's hematite.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Sep 2013, 08:42
Tattoo idea! On my left wrist, right where my watch goes. "...and now my watch begins"
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 12 Sep 2013, 09:09
The plugs posted are lovely. I really like the butterfly ones and Kat's are so pretty.

Would a tattoo artist mind if I listened to music, through headphones, while they were tattooing me? Timing visits is awkward because I'd rather not go alone but it seems that might be what I'll be doing.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 12 Sep 2013, 09:13
Tattoo idea! On my left wrist, right where my watch goes. "...and now my watch begins"
And on the other side "And now my watch has ended!" :-D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 12 Sep 2013, 09:49
Wow, colored wood? That's so cool!


I see all the fancy plugs here and it makes me want to make some, but I haven't the slightest idea where to begin and I want to use ALL THE MATERIALS. If I ever ventured into making a pair, it would probably be out of resin, but I've read that a lot of people have issues with it. What kind of issues? Have any of you used resin plugs before? What were your thoughts?





Welu- I doubt they would mind, especially if it relaxes you- better to not talk but be relaxed than be super tense and nervous without headphones. But, it can't hurt to ask them beforehand.




Edit: Hmmmmm......I'm seeing now that most people recommend pouring the resin into steel eyelets. That sounds both easier AND safer. And more expensive, naturally.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Sep 2013, 20:24
Resin, as far as I know, is going to be a lot like plastic - not good for your skin, leaches chemicals, stuff like that. It will be more expensive to put resin inside other tunnels, but it will be a million times safer. You can also try using glass tunnels - it looks like it's all resin but it's better.

Also, for those who do not keep up with the comic, the one just posted (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2534) shows a girl with what looks like high cheek piercings. I kind of love how they look but I can't find any online - has anyone seen these before?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 12 Sep 2013, 22:02
Hmm, I'm thinking they maybe are supposed to be the usual dimple placement, I've never really seen cheek piercings not in the usual dimple area placement. It's possible they may be really high philtrum piercings though. Definitely seen a few of those.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 12 Sep 2013, 22:18
Apparently you can go pretty high, but at that point it's not really a piercing, but rather an implant. 

(http://balljunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/cache/55157_NpAdvSinglePhoto.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 12 Sep 2013, 22:38
Kiiiind of, Surface Anchors (aka Microdermals) are a form of surface piercing and have some of the same limitations that surface work does. They can't really be placed in high movement areas, which would include pretty much the entire cheek. His seems to be resting more... I'm not sure what part of the face I'd call that honestly. It's placed in a more anti-eyebrow location I think.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrwamlFXtb1qckywpo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Sep 2013, 07:10
Yep, that's a surface anchor as opposed to a piercing that has an entry point and an exit. I feel like the ones in the comic, if they're not supposed to just be cheek piercings, would be viable. I don't know how easy they'd be to pierce or heal, though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Sep 2013, 10:54
They can't really be placed in high movement areas, which would include pretty much the entire cheek. His seems to be resting more... I'm not sure what part of the face I'd call that honestly.

...his zygomatic arch?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 13 Sep 2013, 10:58
Yes! That is correct.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Sep 2013, 14:16
Those photos look like what I have seen called "anti-eyebrow" piercings and incidentally they are really high on my list of piercings wants.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Sep 2013, 14:44
That's what I've always seen them called as well. I'm not sure I could do something like that. I much prefer the standard type of piercing.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Sep 2013, 17:47
Well there's a place in Manchester (half an hour or so away), but no piercing places in Concord. I called up the place, though, and asked how high a gauge they'd pierce, and was told 6, which is exactly what I wanted. I think I know what I'm doing next Friday after classes.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 14 Sep 2013, 18:00
Make sure to post pictures for us!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Sep 2013, 18:01
Will do! :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Sep 2013, 10:30
Hey, does anyone know anything about flesh colored plugs? I've seen pictures and they seem like they work pretty well, but has anyone used them? (I wouldn't need them for a couple months after the piercing, so they'd be healed by then)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Sep 2013, 12:32
Your best bet is Kaos brand silicone plugs. I have a couple pairs of their other styles and I love them; I've never tried their hider plugs because my ears are too big to really hide. They should work well, just be sure to take them out and clean them once a day, as silicone has a chance of trapping bacteria against your piercing.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Sep 2013, 12:33
Cool! Kaos was what my minimal research brought up (and everything I saw pointed to). I'll probably order some in a few weeks and put 'em in a week or so before I go home for Thanksgiving. Is silicone comfortable? When my ears were pierced last time I'd never had anything that wasn't steel in there.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 15 Sep 2013, 12:46
Unless you have a sensitivity to it, silicone is one of the most comfortable materials you can possibly wear. Just be sure to use oil when you put them in. Silicone will dry the shit out of the lobes if you don't. That's also another reason to take them out at least once a day.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Sep 2013, 13:08
I used to need oil when I wore the basic Kaos plugs (the thick-walled style, which is what the hider plugs are), but now that I mostly wear earskins (a super thin style), I don't need oil at all. I dunno what the difference is.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Sep 2013, 13:11
What kind of oil?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Sep 2013, 13:35
Vitamin e oil will probably be the easiest for you to get your hands on. Just put a dab on your fingers, massage it into your piercing a little bit (AFTER it's healed), and then put the plugs in.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Sep 2013, 14:05
Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 15 Sep 2013, 14:42
Vitamin E oil is the bestest and it's super cheap and easy to find! (It's with vitamins in grocery and drug stores.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 15 Sep 2013, 14:59
Yeah, Vit E works fine, though I personally prefer Jojoba. It's a bit less thick smells much much better to me. I think it's typically in the nail and hair care aisle.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 15 Sep 2013, 16:53
or that one Nick gave us a sample of, what was that? 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 15 Sep 2013, 16:55
Naked Oil, but its pretty pricey compared to other options.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: EspyPsyche on 16 Sep 2013, 02:16
A couple I want to get. One is a pretty simple one, a US flag and eagle with a banner that says "Proudly Made in the USA". I'll get this on my upper arm.

The other is a bit more complicated. Concentric circle backpiece. In the inside circle, a tribal style bear, tiger, and snake. In the space between the circles, three words. "Ferocity", "Resilience", "Cunning".
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 16 Sep 2013, 13:38
1995 called and wants their tattoos back.

I've got an appt booked for nov 4. Excited.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Sep 2013, 17:00
I'm sorry if you've already said this, but what are you getting, Jace?


My next tattoo will be one or two of these (I haven't decided yet) with STAY CALM involved somehow.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/nekowaffer/gliderheart_zps4c4d1a50.gif)

For those who don't know, that is a heart with Shannon Larratt's forehead tattoo inside it.

(http://www.zentastic.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/shannon2.jpg)

He had STAY CALM on the inside of his fingers.

(http://www.zentastic.com/iamimport/2006/01/still-staying-calm-1.jpg)

I like the look, I like the words (they mean a lot to me because of my anxiety disorder), and they are a tribute to him.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 16 Sep 2013, 17:05
On my right arm: memento mori with a skull
On my left arm: memento vivere with a heart (realistic)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 17 Sep 2013, 14:22
I have this vague idea for a tattoo I want but I can't seem to get it to be any more concrete. It's quite annoying.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 17 Sep 2013, 14:23
Talking out an idea with an artist, tattoo artist or non, might help.

I have an idea but it involves words and putting a font on me is scary to me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 17 Sep 2013, 15:58
I've narrowed down my next tattoo idea to either words or something from Bastion. Because I love that game that much.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Sep 2013, 13:01
There's a guy that plays EVE that's had the word "Veldspar" and part of the targeting UI tattooed on the inside of his arm (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/community-spotlight-chribba/). I've heard someone else had the insignia of an in-game pirate faction tattooed somewhere.

Internet spaceships is srsbsns.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Sep 2013, 18:51
On my right arm: memento mori with a skull
On my left arm: memento vivere with a heart (realistic)

That sounds really awesome.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Sep 2013, 15:15
So I didn't go to Manchester today and therefore didn't get my ears pierced. Not sure if I want it at the moment plus didn't feel like spending the $70 or so needed for the piercing and tunnels.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 20 Sep 2013, 15:56
My standard for catching up on threads is to immediately hit End to scroll to the bottom and find the place I left off from there. The photo of Shannon Larratt's face looking into the camera blinking past on a 50 inch TV screen made me jump.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Sep 2013, 16:08
Doesn't your's take you to the post after the last one you viewed? 

Sometimes I have to wait for the thread to finish loading, but then it just picks up where I left off.  And that's cookie-less, I think it's on the server side. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 20 Sep 2013, 16:14
It does but it's a habit I've picked up from browsing forums that don't bring you to your point.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: MrBlu on 25 Sep 2013, 01:38
So I walked into a tattoo store today. Out of sheer curiosity. Didn't have enough cash to get a tat, but walked out with a 14ga plug. Been wanting to stretch to about a 2 or 0ga for a while, so I feel pretty good that I get to start finally.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 25 Sep 2013, 16:01
I got a double industrial piercing about 3 months ago and it has been nothing but trouble from the get go.

First up the bottom set swelled right up so we took the bar out and put two little barbell-y things in instead until it calmed down. Then I got this squishy bubble on the inside of the top set, which hasn't gone away after soaking daily. Plus the others are crusting up a storm. Then two of them started bleeding a bit. I went to me piercer and he said to put steroid cream on them, which hasn't really done anything so far. Then I was an idiot and played with the bubble until it popped and now (funnily enough) it's really sore.

I just want to be able to sleep on my right side again and have a cool looking ear! Is that too much to ask for?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 25 Sep 2013, 16:16
HANNAH! That is the No. 1 reason I've never bothered to get a Industrial despite really loving them. I just don't know if I could deal with the healing period.

Have you considered getting one of those semi circular head pillow thingamajigs so you can sleep on your side without sleeping on your ear?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 25 Sep 2013, 17:13
Oh Steve, that is the best idea! I don't know why I didn't think of that!

I am a bit tempted to just take some antibiotics to see if that makes a difference, because this is getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Sep 2013, 17:41
I'm doubting that it's an infection - unless it's bright red, hot to the touch, and secreting greenish pus, that is. So I don't think antibiotics will do you any good. Do you know what type of barbell is in there? As in, what sort of threading, what material, that sort of thing?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 25 Sep 2013, 18:56
Internal threading, titanium bar? Stainless steel? I have no idea what the material is, other than the standard stuff from a reputable piercing place. I got it done by the same people that did my vertical labret and I haven't had any issues with that which could have come from an allergy.

The guy at the piercing place said that some people get irritations when they get cartilage piercings (hence the steroid cream) but that normally if it's happening on my ear then I probably would have had a similar reaction on my nostril piercing. I never got a bump like that, but it would go really red and swell up if I bumped or moved the nose screw for any reason and I only noticed it not being a problem in the last year or so. Maybe there is a connection there...

Sleeping on the ear probably isn't helping, but because of my back issues it takes longer for me to get uncomfortable on my right side than my left so I end up rolling onto that side when I'm half asleep.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Sep 2013, 19:03
It would probably help to get the other bar switched out to two shorter barbells. The bump could be from the pressure of having a two-point piercing. And the neck pillow that Stephen suggested could do you a lot of good. It's the biggest reason my boyfriend's snug orbitals are healing so quickly.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 26 Sep 2013, 08:44
Those pillow things would be a smart thing for me to get, my left cartilage piercings are having issues and I think it's from sleeping on that side. Both have two small keloids above the front side of the piercing. I managed to sleep on my other side for a few weeks and the bump on the lower piercing totally went away and the top one got smaller but after hurting my back I was sleeping on the left side again and they've come back. I've had the piercing for five months now and it still hurts to the touch while cleaning. My right side piercings stopped being sore after three-ish months. I think when I'm next up I'll get the rings switched for studs and use studs for future piercings on that side. I think that'll help if I rollover on the side during sleep.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 26 Sep 2013, 08:54
A keloid is permanent scarring - though what you have probably looks like one, it isn't. Which is good. Cartilage piercings are just more sensitive to pressure and adjustments than other types.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 26 Sep 2013, 09:13
Ah, great. I didn't mean to write keloid actually but I must have been thinking about them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 28 Sep 2013, 02:09
Internal threading, titanium bar? Stainless steel? I have no idea what the material is, other than the standard stuff from a reputable piercing place. I got it done by the same people that did my vertical labret and I haven't had any issues with that which could have come from an allergy.

The guy at the piercing place said that some people get irritations when they get cartilage piercings (hence the steroid cream) but that normally if it's happening on my ear then I probably would have had a similar reaction on my nostril piercing. I never got a bump like that, but it would go really red and swell up if I bumped or moved the nose screw for any reason and I only noticed it not being a problem in the last year or so. Maybe there is a connection there...

Sleeping on the ear probably isn't helping, but because of my back issues it takes longer for me to get uncomfortable on my right side than my left so I end up rolling onto that side when I'm half asleep.

It'll almost certainly be surgical steel. That's what Polymorph uses for all their basic jewelry.

Cartilage piercings are always fucked to heal and take ages. It's probably that you're not cleaning it enough (which you told me the other week) and sleeping on it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 28 Sep 2013, 02:29
I started cleaning it more after that! I am trying to make up for past laziness! It just didn't seem to be doing anything and kinda making the top ones more irritated so I went and talked to the guys about it.

I do sleep on my right side a fair bit though, so that wouldn't be helping.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 28 Sep 2013, 02:37
Yeah my eyebrow rings are still crusty and a little bloody after almost a year. I think it's probably because I sleep on them but I try not to. I have so much trouble with eyebrow rings though because I can't sleep on my back so I almost invariably end up sleeping on my face.

The lip ring is completely fine though. Best healed piercing I've ever had.

Also in a few weeks I'll have some nice photos of my finished sleeves for you guys. Only taken 4 years and an impromptu trip to Austria.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 28 Sep 2013, 05:15
They're finished?! Ooo! I can't wait to see them! Also you'll have to tell us about Austria.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 28 Sep 2013, 07:35
Not finished yet!

They were meant to be finished in July but my artist (who I met in Melbourne but has since relocated to Austria) contacted me in April and told me she had to cancel my bookings because she's pregnant and her doctor said she's not allowed to fly. I'll be heading to Austria at the end of October to get them finished so I'm frantically saving to have enough money for everything. I think I should be OK but I want to make sure I have at least $1500 extra to make sure I don't run out of money (my hotel is right next to a gentleman's club, after all).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 28 Sep 2013, 10:22
Aaaah, ok. This is exciting! New country AND finished sleeves! I can't wait to see them - I love what you've shown us in the past. They make me want sleeves of my own...

Hmm. I need to find out what my job thinks about visible tattoos. Not that I'll be there forever, but I do like the place and some of my coworkers have smaller visible tattoos, but nobody has larger visible ones. Also I think the kids would find them fun anyways. :laugh:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Sep 2013, 20:22
http://www.tickld.com/t/335677  this tattooed guy is winning.


I really need to get more ink done, it's been far too long since I've been under the gun.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Sep 2013, 20:35
That's just adorable. And damn it, now I want a tattoo again.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Blue Kitty on 30 Sep 2013, 20:39
I've been thinking about tattoo's lately and if I had to get one I would probably get something like these two
(http://tonova.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/hellboy_logo_w_skull_logo_1.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a66871ed07d1296d4834e68b2e18b21f/tumblr_mti6knBSYI1qap1xko1_500.jpg)

I really like Hellboy and Mike Mignola's art style in general, and I really like skulls.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 01 Oct 2013, 06:01
I've narrowed down my next tattoo idea to either words or something from Bastion. Because I love that game that much.

Not a bad idea.  Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is:

That missionary raised Zulf like a gentleman. Like his own son. Taught him theology, history, and mercy.

There's got to be something better, though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 01 Oct 2013, 06:02
Actually, question.  Was being served the other day by a woman with a fairly long quotation on her inner forearm.  Was going to ask her if I could read it, but the line behind me got busy.

I assumed she'd have been happy to have been asked, but maybe you guys can correct me if I'm wrong?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 01 Oct 2013, 06:11
Some people can be quite...private about their tattoos? Remember that a lot of people (myself included) may have easily visible tattoos but that doesn't mean that we want every man and his dog asking about them. We got them for ourselves, not other people.
For the most part I think most people will be ok with polite questions (What does that say? Where did you get it done/Who is your artist? etc...). But try not to be invasive. This sounds obvious but never, ever touch someone without their permission. I hear so many stories about women with tattoos who have strangers grab their arms/other body parts to have a better look at their ink. I've actually had it done to me as well and it's both bizarre and threatening.
Try not to stare. Don't ask really dumb questions like 'did it hurt?'.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Oct 2013, 06:43
Why is that a dumb question? Maybe they're considering getting a tattoo and want to know if they can take it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Oct 2013, 07:22
Everyone asks about piercings and tattoos hurting. Of course they hurt! They're needles in your skin! It's a matter of how much pain each person can take, and there's no way another person will know what pain you can take. The answer to "did it hurt?" will always be yes, if that person is honest.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 01 Oct 2013, 07:46
My answer to that question is always "If anyone tells you they don't hurt, they are lying".
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 01 Oct 2013, 09:38
After telling someone that I had finished a 5 hour coloring session on my tattoo they asked me if it hurt. I replied "no, it felt like being tickled by a feather. Of course it fucking hurt, it is needles jabbing your skin thousands upon thousands of times."

Also if someone has a tattoo in an easily visible place I figure it is fair game to ask about it. I wouldn't ever get upset or offended if someone asked to get a better look at the tattoos on my forearms, in fact it happened yesterday in the bank.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 01 Oct 2013, 09:56
Maybe asking, "How much did that hurt?" would be a better question because it will always hurt some amount.

This sounds obvious but never, ever touch someone without their permission. I hear so many stories about women with tattoos who have strangers grab their arms/other body parts to have a better look at their ink. I've actually had it done to me as well and it's both bizarre and threatening.

This has happened to me, in public and while working. I really hate being touched so when it's happened I flinch largely and immediately try to pull away and people get offended because, "I just wanted to look." I don't mind people asking what my tattoos are or what they mean but if people ask to look at them it bothers me a little just cause it feels weird to be stared at.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 01 Oct 2013, 10:01
Thanks for the responses.

Obviously, I would not ask about the pain.  It's kind of irrelevant anyways.  Suffering is temporary.

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Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Oct 2013, 10:39
Thankfully no one has tried to touch me yet, without asking. I would either cry and run away or beat the shit out of them. It's a toss up as to which one would happen on any given day.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 01 Oct 2013, 14:08
I don't lie when I say my my right ear did not hurt when it got pierced. However, that's because that lobe is thinner than my left one, it had more scar tissue, and it was done first. The left hurt like a sonovabitch. The right one also didn't bleed until my friend bumped the side of my head several hours later. THEN it hurt!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 01 Oct 2013, 14:14
I've never been fond of the idea of piercings on myself, but lately I've been thinking about getting one done on the upper part of my ear. I don't know exactly what my options are there, but I think I don't want just a simple ring. From what I've gathered in this thread, Industrials are two-point piercings on your upper ear, right? I might be getting one of those, maybe.
Could somebody direct me to a good website where I can find out more about my options? Telling me here would be fine too. :)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 01 Oct 2013, 14:18
This is a good and mostly complete list for the ear. It's missing some of the crazier and more complicated stuff like 3+ point industrials, but I don't think I'd ever tell someone to go for something like that unless they knew what they were getting into.

http://www.bodyjewelleryshop.com/body_piercing_information/location_types/

Just... I would mostly ignore the jewelry on that site.

Edit: Ok, looking through the listings more, the placements are good (with the exception of the industrial. That is definitely one of the possible placements, but it's not the norm at all), but it's jewelry suggestions are a little questionable. So good list, but take some of their advice with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 01 Oct 2013, 14:26
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for!
The Scaffold and Weaving piercings look very interesting to me, though Weaving seems to require a lot more holes. But they do look even better.. I think I'll have to look at a lot of actual jewelry options before I decide.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 01 Oct 2013, 14:29
Yeah, I mean the biggest thing to remember is that some of the fancier options can be done as multiple piercings and then you can have the pierce order you custom jewelry for them. Might be a good idea to mention you might have that in mind for placement reasons, but it's absolutely doable.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 01 Oct 2013, 14:38
Holy crap, the weaving is cool. Don't know if I'd be up for getting six to eight cartilage piercings in one sitting, though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Oct 2013, 14:39
Definitely find yourself a good piercer that is willing to talk you through your options and maybe even mark them for you, and/or show you your jewelry options. We can give you some ideas and advice if you want to post some ear pictures, but of course we can't say anything for sure because we're not piercers and we are not able to poke your ear.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 01 Oct 2013, 14:42
Oh my god I just looked at the healing times in that list. Disregard them entirely and remember that the Scaffold is an Industrial as well. Just use it for placement ideas.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 01 Oct 2013, 17:40
My ear is doing slightly better! I've been soaking it once a day and putting the Dermaid cream on it and it feels slightly less angry and the ugly scabby thing from when I was an idiot and picked at it has gone so I don't look as gross!

I need to contact the lady who I want to get a tattoo from and see if there's any new about booking an appointment yet. I know she's super busy and all, but I just want to get something solid that I can work towards; it vagueness of "we'll contact you when we start taking appointments again" is driving me insane. Plus her stuff is AMAZING (http://instagram.com/emily_rose_murray), I want it on my arm nowwwwwwww.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Oct 2013, 17:59
My answer to that question is always "If anyone tells you they don't hurt, they are lying".

I always say that and I'm not a liar... except my collar bone. That tattoo was a poor choice. I like it, I like what it says, I like where it is, but FUCK ME that hurt. I napped through the rest of my ink. But then I have a freaky pain tolerance level. I've had to have people inform me I have broken a bone because I didn't notice.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Oct 2013, 18:13
Thankfully no one has tried to touch me yet, without asking.

Spoke too soon. My dentist grabbed my ear as he came into the room.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 02 Oct 2013, 01:31
Oh my god I just looked at the healing times in that list. Disregard them entirely and remember that the Scaffold is an Industrial as well. Just use it for placement ideas.
You got me somewhat confused there, the site says 8-16 weeks for both Industrial and Scaffold (and Weaving too, for that matter). If that's not accurate, what are healing times I can expect?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 02 Oct 2013, 01:33
Thankfully no one has tried to touch me yet, without asking.

Spoke too soon. My dentist grabbed my ear as he came into the room.
To be fair, he wasn't far off. Mouth, ear ... It's all so ... Difficult to tell apart.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 02 Oct 2013, 01:46
Cartilage can tale a very long time to heal, especially problematic piercings such as industrials. About 3 - 6 months on average for cartilage if I recall correctly. It can take up to a year for problem piercings though. Keep in mind that this doesn't mean it's going to be sore and all that for the entire time (or shouldn't be at least), the full healing period also covers the cartilage or flesh growing a full and proper fistula (aka skin tunnel) in the wound. Things like lips, lobes, tongue and other soft fleshy bits take a lot less time to heal, generally speaking. Surface piercings are generally considered to be semi-permanent. They may last a few weeks if you don't heal them well, or they may last years. But the expectation is that they will pretty much always reject at some point.

Piercings tend to take a lot of time and babying to heal up proper, but they're well worth it in the end.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 02 Oct 2013, 13:55
My answer to that question is always "If anyone tells you they don't hurt, they are lying".

I always say that and I'm not a liar... except my collar bone. That tattoo was a poor choice. I like it, I like what it says, I like where it is, but FUCK ME that hurt. I napped through the rest of my ink. But then I have a freaky pain tolerance level. I've had to have people inform me I have broken a bone because I didn't notice.

You're so brave and tough Garand-kun~ How can I ever be like you
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Oct 2013, 14:22
Green vegetables and homework! Blend them both together and drink it for all three meals and you'll grow up to be big and strong!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 09 Oct 2013, 19:01
Seriously cannot stop playing with the ring in my smiley piercing and making stupid faces while I do it.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/10/3udezysu.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 10 Oct 2013, 03:09
:D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Oct 2013, 03:13
The thought of getting a piercing in my gums sends shivers down my spine. :S
It looks good, but getting one myself... hell no.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Oct 2013, 06:46
It's not actually in my gums. It's in the little web of skin between gums and upper lip. I don't know that that will make it any less icky for you though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 10 Oct 2013, 12:59
About 3 weeks from a new tattoo. I am excite.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 12 Oct 2013, 13:20
I had a disappointing body jewellery customer experience today but when I go to complain about it I feel petty and unjustified.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Oct 2013, 19:54
Complain anyway! You're allowed to be bothered by whatever it is, it doesn't need to be justifiable or anything of the sort.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Oct 2013, 03:58
Then I shall!

Went to a body jewellery shop my piercer mentioned and was feeling anxious before I came in because why not? The only person in the shop was the worker who was working on a display. Conversation:
Me: I'm looking for something for my cartilage piercings.
Him: *without looking up* Do you know your size?
Me: I think it's 16g.
Him: *still doesn't look up* 1.3mm. This isn't America. We don't do gauges here.

Then he showed me the jewellery and I think he was trying to be helpful but I was feeling pushed into getting something showy. I just got a couple plain bars and in the end I'm disappointed with the quality. The finish isn't very smooth and they're externally threaded. They were only £2 each and I'd guess the more expensive stuff is better but I just wanted something easier to sleep on. The guy just seemed to have, "This job would be great without the customers." pouring off him. This is total projection but I also think he was unenthused by my lack of (visible) mods.
Then the piercer said it wouldn't be good to swap the jewellery while the piercings are irritated after all that anyway. :-\

He also recommended switching from salt water cleaning to an antiseptic spray which doesn't sound right to me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2013, 06:46
Yeah he was rude for no reason. A lot of people in the body mod community, when they think they know a lot about body mods, will look down on those who seemingly know less. But obviously this guy doesn't know that much, if he's selling low quality, externally threaded jewelry. Can you order online? Or maybe check out Industrial Strength and Anatometal to see if they have any sellers in your area. Their jewelry is significantly more expensive, but also polished to a mirror shine and internally threaded.

I definitely do not agree with telling you to use antiseptic spray. Why did he want you to switch?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Oct 2013, 07:04
I think I'll have to get online and bite the bullet for the price. There's not many resources here unfortunately.

I sleep on my left side and I got cartilage piercings on that side about six months ago. They're still sore to the touch and they get yellow crusties. I try to sleep on the other side but roll over in my sleep. I'm going to stick to salt water but try to clean them better. I do them in the morning and before bed so could move up to three cleans.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 13 Oct 2013, 09:21
He sounds sketchy.

A friend who has a newish industrial sleeps on one of those horseshoe travel pillows with his ear in the hole, so that there is not pressure on it.  I dunno if that'd work for you, but it's an idea. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Oct 2013, 09:31
The same piercer did my other side cartilage and they healed great but yesterday's experience was disappointing. I guess just because the tattoo artists there are great, it doesn't mean the same for the piercers. :meh: I'll try one of those horseshoe pillows, can use them for bus journeys if they don't work out for the ears. My pillows are quite soft so I can push a dip into them to lessen the pressure but it's not ideal.

Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 13 Oct 2013, 16:46
He sounds sketchy.

A friend who has a newish industrial sleeps on one of those horseshoe travel pillows with his ear in the hole, so that there is not pressure on it.  I dunno if that'd work for you, but it's an idea.

I am using that method and I dunno if it's really making a difference but I like to think it is! No pressure on that part of the ear definitely is more comfortable to sleep on; I just swap back and forth between the neck pillow and the regular pillow when I roll over which is a bit annoying.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 13 Oct 2013, 18:15
Ok, so not a huge problem but definitely an annoying one: My plugs keep falling out. Usually I'll wake up, go to the bathroom, and see one isn't in my ear (usually the left), and walk back to the bed and find it there. But sometimes they'll pop out if I lightly scratch my lobe, put my hair in a towel after showering, etc. Basically my question is should I be wearing them less or something? The flares are noticeably bigger and I didn't have this problem at smaller gauges. Should I take them out when sleeping? I are confuzzled.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 13 Oct 2013, 18:18
Yeah, it just sounds like they've naturally stretched. Unless you want to stretch, try sleeping without them one night and see how easily they go back in. If it's not a big deal, then they should get stay in a bit better.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2013, 18:19
Most people with large-ish plugs will take them out at night. If you don't want to stretch any further, that's your best bet. I also keep mine out while showering, as I'm scared of dropping and breaking my fancy ones.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 13 Oct 2013, 18:28
Yeah, I don't really want to stretch right now. I will sometimes shower without them, since I'm alternating between stone, wood, and opalite. I'm more afraid of losing them than breaking them because they are still that size that is juuuuust small enough to slip down a drain. Or having one of my cats decide it's edible because they're about the size of their food bits.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2013, 18:36
Sorry, I apparently posted at the same time that Stephen did. I do think that more time, whenever it is, with your plugs out will help a lot.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 13 Oct 2013, 18:37
Does that Jinx mean you owe me a coke? Cause if so, I really want a coke.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 13 Oct 2013, 18:42
I'll send you both e-cokes for the advice!

(http://manjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/coca-cola-can.jpg)

(I'd give you real ones, but I don't have any either. :-( )
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2013, 21:31
I only have diet root beer and a single wine cooler.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 14 Oct 2013, 03:36
So there was that welcoming snap when I put in my plugs this morning, so I think leaving them out overnight helped! Thanks rad people!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Oct 2013, 08:46
Huzzah! What size are you, if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 14 Oct 2013, 09:57
4g. Relatively small, but an easy size.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 14 Oct 2013, 12:18
That's how big my seconds are and I might have to start doing the same thing. I just stretched them a couple of months ago and I'm already dropping plugs like crazy.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 14 Oct 2013, 13:26
So, went to the piercer today. He recommended me not to get a weaving right away, but rather have a simple plug first and "extend" later (I'm not sure if someone here said that earlier, but I feel like i heard it before, so excuse me for forgetting). And since I was already there I just got it done right away, so to make a long story short, here's what I ended up with:

(http://s7.directupload.net/images/131014/lzpi7oj4.jpg)

So far I like it. It's a rather unusual feeling (and is obviously still aching a little) but I think I can get used to it easily. The only somewhat annoying thing is that it's rather difficult to clean the part behind the ear, because of my hair I can't see what I'm doing at all. Does anybody have some tips on how to reach that part better?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 14 Oct 2013, 13:36
Is your ear bendable? Just bend it forwards...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 14 Oct 2013, 13:44
Normally it is, but right now it hurts when I try to, seeing as a metal stick was shoved in there just a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 14 Oct 2013, 14:25
... I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 14 Oct 2013, 16:33
I used a cotton ball method on my lobes that might work: You take two cotton balls soaked in saline solution (or your sea salt mix, whichever) and hold one on either side of the piercing and lightly hold them there to soak. (Don't rub, just lightly press them together on your ear. Like an ear-cotton ball sandwich.) It did a pretty good job of getting gunk off of my piercings and I didn't need to see the back of my ear to clean them. Some people have naysayed that in the past, but my piercer recommended it and it worked really well for me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 14 Oct 2013, 18:28
The only thing to worry about with cotton balls is that sometimes fibers can get stuck to the jewelry/piercing and that can irritate. Gauze should fix that problem. And you're basically just going to have to get used to not being able to see what you're cleaning. Once the swelling goes down, you'll be able to feel what is going in back there enough to rub a q-tip on it and get most of the crusties off. Having a friend help once in a while is also good.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 15 Oct 2013, 02:37
The cotton ball/gauze idea sounds good, I'm gonna try that, thanks!
Today it almost doesn't hurt anymore, just a slight tingling left. I'll take that as a good sign.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Oct 2013, 06:44
Don't get too excited. It's going to ache for a couple weeks yet. Hopefully not much. And you will probably squeal like a little girl the first time you bump it the wrong way. But that will all go away soon!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Oct 2013, 13:39
Posted a similar picture in the complaint thread but this one is entirely focused on the jewelry.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/19/e8adu9yp.jpg)

Deer antler plugs with stone in the center. Seconds are stone, conch jewelry is glass, and tragus jewelry is steel and titanium.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 20 Oct 2013, 19:16
A question of etiquette: should I shave my arms before I go in to the tattoo studio? My Artist has always shaved me down before we get started but my housemate was dumbfounded when he found out I don't shave my own arms before I go in.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 20 Oct 2013, 19:21
I personally would, but not so much to be polite as the artist is unlikely to be as kind and gentlt about it as I will be. I'm a delicate flower is what I'm sayin'.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thomas Edison on 20 Oct 2013, 19:26
I usually get given the razor by the artist when we're setting up so I can shave the area myself, although the lady that did my forearm shaved it for me. I don't think it's bad etiquette to turn up with your hair still there.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Eris on 20 Oct 2013, 19:29
I had to take my cartilage piercings out on the weekend :'(

I went to the piercer and he said that they should have definitely calmed down by now if I was treating them well (which I was), and that perhaps it was just my body's way of saying it didn't want them. I'm probably going to try again in a few months, but take it slower; just the top two done, with studs or rings rather than a bar, and see how that goes.

I miss them already.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 20 Oct 2013, 19:40
Retiring piercings is always a bit lousy, but at least you have a plan for next time!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Oct 2013, 19:43
I remember taking out my remaining cartilage piercing during Latin class. It was bugging me too much so I tried to take it out without anyone noticing (not easy, the class was like 4 people around a table). The ball of the barbell was so small and my hands are big, so it moved around a lot and honestly it hurt more to take out than it did to put in. Had to go to the bathroom to wash it after because it bled a bit.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 20 Oct 2013, 20:06
Yeah my eyebrows are still angry and they're about a year old. I actually moved them over from the other side after the original piercings rejected. Maybe I'm just not meant to have sweet eyebrow piercings...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 20 Oct 2013, 20:13
I miss my eyebrow piercings a lot. I miss a lot of my piercings quite a lot really. Stupid Pneumonia. One of these days I'll start my 'collection' back up.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Oct 2013, 20:14
I remember I got my septum pierced and then couldn't sleep in it and took it out, knowing it would be closed when I woke up. It didn't make it any less sad when I woke up.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Oct 2013, 20:18
My daughter's eyebrow piercings are still bugging her a bit 14 months later.  She got some different jewelry a couple months ago - nylon, I think? - and they've calmed down quite a bit from the metal ones she had (they were good quality, no nickel, but just left her eyebrow angry).  She still gets the occasional crusties, but not as often. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 20 Oct 2013, 20:19
You might be thinking Teflon?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 20 Oct 2013, 20:28
Probably.  Very colorful, though! 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 20 Oct 2013, 21:42
A question of etiquette: should I shave my arms before I go in to the tattoo studio? My Artist has always shaved me down before we get started but my housemate was dumbfounded when he found out I don't shave my own arms before I go in.

I don't but I never actually considered shaving beforehand. The artists I've gone to were never rough with it so it just seemed like part of getting a tattoo.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 20 Oct 2013, 22:01
It's never been a problem before. My housemate just thinks it's rude to expect the artist to do it despite it never having been an issue as far as I know?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 20 Oct 2013, 22:06
Carl, they're probably just acrylic if they're colorful. Teflon is generally only black or white. She may want to try titanium if steel bothers her.

I shaved my legs before I got my calf tattoos, but the artist insisted on shaving the area again anyway. So maybe if you're really hairy it's nice to get the worst of it before you go?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 20 Oct 2013, 22:08
Hmm, Bio-Flex is also a possibility.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jace on 20 Oct 2013, 23:47
It's never been a problem before. My housemate just thinks it's rude to expect the artist to do it despite it never having been an issue as far as I know?

Oh, I'll ask my friend who is a tattoo artist on tuesday when we go bowling. He would probably have opinions on that.

Also its really cool that I'm friends with a tattoo artist. Our friendship was actually born out of him tattooing me and us just getting on really well and having similar interests.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 21 Oct 2013, 03:47
I shaved my legs before I got my calf tattoos, but the artist insisted on shaving the area again anyway. So maybe if you're really hairy it's nice to get the worst of it before you go?

I've never considered shaving before hand, although thinking about it I wasn't shaved for my last one on the front of my shoulder. I think Neko's way sounds best and it's made me think I'll be doing the same for my planned calf tattoos.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Oct 2013, 07:50
No, I asked - she says they're nylon.  She was having trouble sleeping on them and they just weren't healing with the steel ones, so she got something more flexible.  They're finally healing nicely. 

Maybe this bio-flex stuff is a type of nylon?  I get tons of different hits on bioflex, from nitrile gloves to lifting gloves to joint supplements. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 21 Oct 2013, 08:08
I have never heard of nylon body jewelry, but doing a search shows tons of results. It seems to be a form of flexible plastic. And honestly that would still worry me a lot. Even bioflex isn't that great in piercings.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thomas Edison on 21 Oct 2013, 08:31
Also its really cool that I'm friends with a tattoo artist. Our friendship was actually born out of him tattooing me and us just getting on really well and having similar interests.

I have a friend like this and it looks like we might even end up renting a house with a couple mutual friends, in which case I can only imagine my number of tattoos is going to dramatically increase.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 21 Oct 2013, 20:31
Just make sure none of them are preceeded by the phrase, "I wanna practice something..."

 :-D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ackblom12 on 21 Oct 2013, 20:36
Huh, I'm genuinely surprised that Nylon body jewelry is a thing. If it works for her it works, but I'd definitely say the same as Neko.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 22 Oct 2013, 13:16
My cartilage piercing seems to be healing well, it's been a week now and it basically doesn't hurt at all, unless I bump it. Also when I'm cleaning it there is almost no crust (don't know the actual word for it)or anything, which seems kinda weird to me, but I'm ok with that. Makes the cleaning easier.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 22 Oct 2013, 14:15
I just call them crusties. And no crusties is a good thing! Do you soak it once in a while?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 22 Oct 2013, 18:20
The official term is lymph discharge. But crusties works just as well.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 22 Oct 2013, 20:22
Crusties sounds less gross.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 22 Oct 2013, 20:27
The official term is lymph discharge. But crusties works just as well.

as in the Lymphatic System? huh. interesting. makes sense though i guess.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 23 Oct 2013, 05:16
Yes, it's your lymphatic system that creates lymph. Lymph is the fluid that collects bacteria to be nommed by the white blood cell warriors at Infection Detection HQ. (As you can tell, my understanding of physiology is somewhat simplistic - I am unashamedly an arts student studying science!)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Masterpiece on 23 Oct 2013, 06:07
IIRC, the lymphatic system is used to collect the fluids that weren't returned back to the vascular system by the tissue.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 25 Oct 2013, 00:48
It's both.  The fluid collects bacteria from around the cells and the white blood cells clean it up for re-use. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Oct 2013, 18:17
I got an awesome new nose ring (looks the same as my others but it has a much smaller diameter, which means that it doesn't hang as low) but I don't have the hand strength to force the bead in, even with ring opening pliers :( I will be able to ask my piercer to do it tomorrow but I want to be able to do it myself!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 25 Oct 2013, 18:26
More importantly, you want to do it yourself NOW!!

 :-D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Oct 2013, 20:45
Exactly!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 26 Oct 2013, 23:23
My piercer loosened the ring for me and I got it in by myself :D

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/27/qahyqaje.jpg)

Those are also new beads on my bridge - and a new barbell that is high quality, my first piece of high quality jewelry. I knew there would be a difference between my old jewelry and this bar but holy shit. Huge difference. I love it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Oct 2013, 11:14
That bridge piercing scares the hell out of me. That's not a bad thing and it's awesome, but the way it's positioned makes it looks like it goes through the bone! (Also are they usually that high up?)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 27 Oct 2013, 15:57
see, that bridge piercing just looks like it'd get in the way of my vision. like there's something in the corner of my eye except its in the center of my vision where i just can't see it, like when something gets on your nose.

is that a concern for you at all?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: LeeC on 27 Oct 2013, 16:05
is it weird that I kind of want a grey imperial eagle on my shoulder?  I know i'd regret it soon after

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6y2vo1L6CD86iy9aUJiTQlRrPn-IbhjW84QTvJHZwvbX00j-X7g)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Oct 2013, 21:56
That height is very normal for a bridge piercing. Pinch the bridge of your nose, you have extra skin there! Some have more than others, and if it was too tight I wouldn't have gotten the piercing, for sure.

The beads took a little time to get used to, but it was very easy. Just like the fact that you can see your nose, but your eyes sort of forget it's there. If the beads are huge, it can be a problem, but they're close enough that I can't even focus on them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: mtmerrick on 27 Oct 2013, 22:05
@lee: well it IS a cool image
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Oct 2013, 05:43
Also yeah I have no idea what that image is or what it means. What's wrong with wanting it as a tattoo and why would you regret it?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: LeeC on 28 Oct 2013, 12:46
Its pretty nerdy, and not mainstream nerdy like the rebel alliance symbol (which would be cool to get but rather just have a sticker of it on my car, should I get a car)
(http://www.customfighters.com/forums/imagehosting/303548bb59932fd33.png)

the two headed eagle is the Aquila (http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Aquila) of the imperium from Warhammer 40k
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Oct 2013, 13:04
What's wrong with non-mainstream nerdiness?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Oct 2013, 13:05
The term "mainstream nerdiness" kind of depresses me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 28 Oct 2013, 17:39
Yup...

Who cares if it's mainstream, if you like it, you like it and that's all that matters. I'm considering a knitting/embroidery/fiber art related sleeve and wouldn't mind a Miyazaki themed one (the tree spirits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodama_(spirit)) from Mononoke Hime), I think you can get a Warhammer 40K tattoo...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Oct 2013, 18:26
Stretched my conches again... I'm almost to my goal size of 4g!!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 29 Oct 2013, 06:17
Having my first session with my artist Sam Rulz (http://www.ouchiscool.com/tattoos) tomorrow. So happy. So excited.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 29 Oct 2013, 06:20
Woo exciting! Good luck Jimmy, can't wait to see the results!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 29 Oct 2013, 06:54
*delurk*

While I've never really wanted more than one, if I ever decided I wanted to get a second tattoo, I'd probably opt for something like Mass Effect Paragon symbol.  So yeah, what's wrong with nerdy

(click to show/hide)

*lurk*
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 29 Oct 2013, 07:06


the two headed eagle is the Aquila (http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Aquila) of the imperium from Warhammer 40k

For the Emphrah! Once I finish Gunsmithing trade school, I intend to get the following 40k tattoo on my shoulder...

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/96/1414660-adeptus_mechanicus_wallpaper_by_kjiverx.jpg)

Slightly modified of course, with a set of crossed rifles on the forehead to denote my position as a Magos Armature.

The other nerd ink I've considered is what I call "Das Ubergeek" which would be a combination of symbols and logos from a wide variety of nerd properties that mean a lot to me. I'd had to do that as a sleeve though, which would both be very expensive, and a real bitch to have in most work enviroments. Once I get my own shop open, I'll start looking at it more seriously.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 29 Oct 2013, 08:08
I've decided that my left arm will be dedicated to all the symbols that hold meaning to me, be it from video games/nerdery or life actual. Up next are something Bastion-related, and something military that isn't horribly cliche. I'll let you know when I figure out what that thing is.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 29 Oct 2013, 16:04
I got some Industrial Strength titanium jewellery for my healed cartilage. It's possible to find it online from UK retailers but it's pretty limited choice, I've found so far. They're captive bead rings and fiddly and I'm struggling to get the bead to snap back in. I'm not sure what to do since I'm not really comfortable with the piercer I've mentioned before any more and I genuinely can't think of anywhere to get them changed. I'm going to Manchester in a couple weeks so I'll see if there's anywhere there.

At least they're pretty rainbows?     
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fcea61b3013a0b0df53af04ed4a1e74b/tumblr_mvgdbdzyvv1qjk0hmo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 29 Oct 2013, 19:01
Captive bead rings are definitely difficult to insert, especially in smaller sizes because they're too small, and bigger sizes because they're half impossible to bend. I do think you'll need someone to help you, though your partner or a friend might be able to do it.

Try going to the Industrial Strength or Anatometal websites and looking for closer retailers.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 02 Nov 2013, 14:12
Ok these aren't great photos but I wanted to share my finally finished sleeves.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a9cd99359847ba91759133097aab76a5/tumblr_mvnmtzTzoX1r13ocyo1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8799c9bdc1c524da74715127f770d242/tumblr_mvnmtzTzoX1r13ocyo2_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/4b8c670f667b7c252b26a9a294e33050/tumblr_mvnmtzTzoX1r13ocyo3_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0cbfc37f80d236064612872d72ce5445/tumblr_mvnmtzTzoX1r13ocyo4_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Nov 2013, 14:17
Awesome.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 02 Nov 2013, 16:08
Those came out great!!!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 02 Nov 2013, 16:10
Whoa, those are class!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 02 Nov 2013, 16:11
Wooo Jimmy I love it! It's so cool how the new ones really pop and the old ones fade into the background, I know that's just what happens naturally because of tattoo ageing but it's still a really really cool effect.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Nov 2013, 19:21
LeeC, the double headed imperial eagle's been a symbol outside of warhammer for centuries - the holy roman empire, the byzantine empire, the russian empire, the austrian empire, and the freemasons, just to name a few. 

Although most of the doouble headed eagles are not as stylized as the warhammer one, what it reminded me of more than anything else was the stylized nazi "iron eagle" (though that one's not double headed);

(http://www.pzg.biz/eagle_party_plaque.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: LeeC on 02 Nov 2013, 19:29
yeah the double head is usually enough to confuse people and then they would ask what it is.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 03 Nov 2013, 00:20
Wooo Jimmy I love it! It's so cool how the new ones really pop and the old ones fade into the background, I know that's just what happens naturally because of tattoo ageing but it's still a really really cool effect.

Yeah it'll take some time for them to fade out to match the older work but it'll take a while. Also they're literally two to three days old now so they're still shiny and only just starting to scale.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 03 Nov 2013, 02:45
Yeah, I remember when I got mine and I was disappointed it faded so much in the first two years because I loved the vibrant colours, but now I think I actually prefer it this way, it sort of fits more on a body muted? Like, now it looks like a part of my body rather than an image slapped on my arm. So I think your current situation (sans scaling) is cool because it's a variation of muted and vibrant, but it'll look great when it fades to match as well since it will look more like a natural part of you.

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 03 Nov 2013, 04:03
I actually really like the way tattoos scab and scale. I think it looks super cool and I'd be happy for them to stay that way if they could also not be painful to move and constantly itching. But really only black ink scales for me. All other colours just get kind of dry and then flake away. Purple always scars a little more than anything else, possibly because we had to go over it so many times because my skin is slightly dark.

Either way I'm really happy with my sleeves. It's been just about 3 years since I started them and now my arms are finished! I'll now need to find a new artist because Austria is too far to come for any future projects and they're all going to be quite large. I've already got my idea for a chest piece (a dead tree. Roots starting on my thighs and pubic mound, trunk going up on my stomach and then branches reaching up over my chest and then over my shoulders and around my ribs). I'm throwing around some ideas for a back piece as well that will have to go around my Dark Crystal tattoo but I'm thinking maybe the Hyrulian coat of arms with the eagles wings going around the Dark Crystal tattoo instead of the Triforce and some Zelda characters around it (Link, Zelda, a Zora, Goron and probably Skullkid).

Not sure what I want to do with my legs yet.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 07 Nov 2013, 19:01
I had far too much fun picking - gently - at the tiny scabs on my tattoos. I tried so damn hard to let them fall off on their own but it was near irresistible.

Also I stretched my conches again. They were at 5g, an in-between size that I wanted to hit because cartilage is so painful to stretch. But the jewelry just wasn't staying in, and it barely added any pain to go on to 4g. Anyway, it felt like something scratchy was on the jewelry so I took it out of my left ear. Holy fuck that hurt. So much. There was nothing on the jewelry except the usual ear cheese so I had to put it back in and my eyes were watering.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Nov 2013, 19:19
The sleeves look great Jimmy!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: indiespy on 07 Nov 2013, 19:30
It's cliche but I want my old unit insignia on my left bicep. Not so cliche but I want my Tokarev tattooed onto my right upper thigh.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BrusselSprouts on 07 Nov 2013, 23:14
This is probably going to seem girly compared to all the other kickass tattoos around here, but I'm probably going to get something to the nature of the emblem of the city of Brussels

(click to show/hide)
tattooed... somewhere. I haven't quite decided the details on it yet. Probably on my back somewhere? I just want it somewhere that's not too painful and looks cool hahaha
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Nov 2013, 04:11
Rule of thumb: The more "meat" that is between the skin being inked and the nearest bone, the less it hurts. So shoulder/shoulder blade area (watch drifting too far down the back) thigh, calf are all relatively "not incredible pain" but then again I napped through ALL of my tattoos (except the one by my collar bone. Fuck. That fucking hurt.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 08 Nov 2013, 06:28
First of all, girly is not at all a negative or less awesome thing. And girly can be plenty kick ass. Second of all, who cares if it's girly if you like it? It's your body, get whatever the fuck you want.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: LeeC on 08 Nov 2013, 07:07
two ton twenty one has a monarach butterfly just above his ass.  And although he was pretty wimpy in the early seasons, after season 4(?) he became badass, even winning the respect of brock samson.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Nov 2013, 10:42
That doesn't look girly to me at all.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 11 Nov 2013, 09:02
That's pretty! Is it just a modified fleur-de-lis or meant to be a particular flower? (I'm sure I can google it, but it's more fun to let you geek about it.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BrusselSprouts on 11 Nov 2013, 10:02
It's an Iris flower, highly stylized of course.

Sorry for kind of killing the thread, I was just a bit surprised how friendly everyone is here hahaha
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 11 Nov 2013, 11:05
The areas on your body where you have really thin and delicate skin is also painful, I have a tattoo on my upper arm, and while most of it didn't hurt much, the part that is wrapped around and sort of almost reaches my armpit hurt a LOT more. I've heard tattoos on your stomach/side hurts too, even though those are kind of meaty areas. Don't quote me on that though, I only have one tat.

(Also don't worry about 'killing' the thread, you didn't. Threads here just nap a little sometimes, it's not anyone's fault.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BrusselSprouts on 11 Nov 2013, 12:15
I can imagine the belly/rib cage area hurting A LOT. I don't like people touching me in that area because its super sensitive. I'll probably get it done on my shoulder or off centre on my hip, though I'm not too sure that'll age nicely
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Nov 2013, 13:02
Depends on how you age, stay healthy and your tats'll stay pretty longer. Not that I can talk, my body is beat.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 11 Nov 2013, 13:04
Hip probably hurts a lot too, to be honest. I'd prefer shoulder/back anyway since it'll be visible more often too, plus yeah, the hip area is tricky in case you'll gain/lose weight at some point, which most of us do. I also know a woman who has a tattoo on her hip which looked great, and then she got pregnant. Now it looks... not so great. I would not want a tattoo in my belly/hip area for that reason since I might want kids someday, but each to their own.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Nov 2013, 14:35
....I'm suddenly jealous of Women's fashion, my upper arms/shoulders/back are never bare unless I'm shirtless for something, that was partially intentional on my part, even my collarbone tattoo is below where a v-neck collared shirt rests on me. What that means is that despite having three large tattoos and a small tattoo no one can tell I have any ink at all.

I've been itching for new ink though. There's the possible nerd sleeve I've been considering doing, but until I get settled into a trade job I don't have to worry about moving from or facing discrimination on, I don't want to make any weird moves.

The top contender is my long desired calf piece (left calf because for some odd reason I try to keep my ink asymmetrical) which would be a Celtic style sword with some runes, devotional symbols of Freyja, Thor and Odin.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BrusselSprouts on 11 Nov 2013, 17:41
Garland, that sounds sweet and kickass

Getting pregnant isn't really a worry for me, unless I fall in love with a trans woman, but even then I would really prefer to adopt some kids. I'd be much happier giving someone an opportunity of a better life than just making someone who is privileged. Not judging the breeders though!!

I was thinking hip particularly because its the meatiest place on my body. I don't want somewhere overly obvious in case of conservative employers. and man do I talk about myself a lot I'm so sorry
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Nov 2013, 17:53
Eventually I'd want sleeves... maybe... probably not. Most of my ink is relatively private. The "nerd sleeve" (really a half sleeve) would be my first really... public tattoo I suppose, both in display and meaning. Heheh. My most visible piece is probably on my collar bone and it's in code.

U3NSNR

Any guesses?

And you're more then welcome to talk about yourself here! We're happy to listen!

I'm unlikely to breed as I find it less and less likely that I'll find a stable, reliable mate, however I wouldn't mind breeding at some point, if just so my eventual grandchildren can say "Oh yeah? Well my Granpa can kick your dad's ass!"
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 17 Nov 2013, 06:47
Not judging the breeders though!!

Global Moderator Comment Please do not use the term breeder/s. It's really not a nice way to refer to people who desire to have their own children.

I really respect your decision to adopt! Not enough people want to put in the time and effort (since it's such a long process) to even do it and I really think people should. Same with foster parents.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 17 Nov 2013, 10:52
U3NSNR

Any guesses?

Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken: No Surrender, No Retreat.

Gotta admit though, I had to google part of that. The U3 part I knew, but the rest must have slipped my memory. Also I like it!

I've been saving up some money and unless I blow it all on concert tickets (that's not at all an unrealistic thing to happen, I love concerts), I might have the money to get a tattoo done soon. Now I only have to settle for an idea. I'm terrible at such things.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Nov 2013, 12:44
Wait where'd you find it?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 17 Nov 2013, 17:07
First hit in google is some forum post on a site called Terminal Lances, whatever that may be. Someone there wrote what it meant. Fun Fact: The third hit is your post.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Nov 2013, 17:28
Oh. Hahahah. Terminal Lance is a Marine Corps website. The individual who posted that on there is me as "ChaplainKalashnikovMarine" or something like that.

Fun fact: I'm an ordained minister! (proof god is dead)

Now school circle yoohoos and I'll tell you all what a Terminal Lance is.

A Terminal Lance is a salty, disgruntled motherfucker who hates all existence and the bullshit that existence contains. He or she is OFP and gives 0 fucks.

Propaganda aside a Terminal Lance is a Marine who will never proceed past the rank of Lance Corporal for one reason or another. (Mostly the promotion system shitting on us). It's become a bit of a sub culture thing within the wider Marine Corps largely characterized as the "Lance Corporal Underground".
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Nov 2013, 11:31
Purple!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/19/pane4a6y.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Nov 2013, 11:35
It's pretty and shiny! It's even got the reflection of the camera or phone in it?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Nov 2013, 12:52
Yup, my phone. That's Anatometal quality right there :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Nov 2013, 21:03
Purple metal is awesome.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Nov 2013, 06:41
It's anodized titanium. I have matching beads for my bridge and tragus piercings, along with tunnels for my second ear piercings that are a very similar color. I want a whole set in this color. I like purple.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Nov 2013, 09:29
And more jewelry to show off... sorry, in place of a new piercing or tattoo, this is what I have for now :P

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/20/aga8umud.jpg)

Glass heart plug!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 19 Nov 2013, 09:41
The big plug looks heavy.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Nov 2013, 09:55
It's stone, so I guess it's probably kind of heavy, but I don't even notice it. It feels weirder to wear something lightweight, like titanium.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Nov 2013, 17:58
Hell yes. Time for new ink. Fuck yes yes yes. I need some needle time. This one's going to be a big one for me, on a lot of levels. First it is going to be my largest tattoo, it's also significant for me personally as it's going to represent a formal oath and bond over something extremely personal, and finally it's going to be my first regularly visible tattoo once we get back to weather that doesn't utterly suck as it's going to be on my left calf.

On to the colors! I hate color in my ink for the most part. I don't think it looks good on me, and as a professional sexy motherfucker, I can't do anything to detract from my image. Accordingly, blacks, greys and reds.
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/156/a/3/1307270883_celtic_knotwork___yggdrasil_by_tanathe-d3hxmwo.jpg)

I took a fair amount of inspiration for this piece from this tattoo piece, and actually contacted the artist about getting her to do a commission for me because her knot work is jaw dropping and lovely. Especially her representations of Skoll and Hati (the wolves forever chasing the sun and moon). Sadly the artist is not taking tattoo commissions at this time, but has given me full permission to use this piece in any way I see fit:
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs49/f/2009/171/c/a/hati_and_skoll_celtic_knots_by_tanathe.png)
So I might just have my artist use those glorious, beautiful wolves or I might go ahead and use that whole circle, because it's a really pretty cycle as well as a significant part of the lore.

The design of the tattoo is relatively simple, this style of sword running tip down towards the deck,
(http://www.medieval-weaponry.co.uk/acatalog/SH2370-1000.jpg)

with this symbol of Freya at the pommel...
(http://www.wiccanleanings.com/images/MS05.jpg)

...and Mjolnir as part of the guard. Skoll and Hati if I used them as such, or the wolves will be around the center of the blade, and the rest of the ink is inscriptions in runes, which I still need to sit down with a Gothi or other learned individual to get a proper translation on.

I might go ahead and do a knot work band at the bottom of the tattoo but I'm not sold on it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 26 Nov 2013, 10:38
Dude, that is a sweet design concept. I say that as tattoo fan, an aspiring tattoo artist, and a person of partially Nordic descent.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 03 Dec 2013, 17:36
So Dave the initial guy I was working with decided he couldn't do it, and brought in Laura, who is everything I want in a tattoo artist, namely an actual artist who loves custom work and views tattooing as collaboration. Doesn't hurt she's cute and smart as well as awesome. (Seriously her work, soon to be found on my leg is killer), if she was single I'd probably be in love as well as getting a tattoo XD.

So I'm going in for this piece saturday, should take about three or four hours.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 03 Dec 2013, 18:56
Turns out one of the people who work in the tattoo place I like used to be in the same class as my brother.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Dec 2013, 06:17
Got my runes worked out with the assistance of the lovely Valdis!

(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/6191_10152129577755815_611153213_n.jpg)
"O Freyja, Goddess of Love and Wars, preserve my heart's flame. May my deeds earn me a place in your hall when the valkyrie escort me to my fallen brothers and ancestors."
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Valdís on 06 Dec 2013, 06:20
:-)

(Yes, people, I'm aware that on the handy chart the one that looks closest to ᚽ is the short-twig Hagall, but it's written in as a dotted Isa, which wasn't a Younger Futhark rune in its own right. It's more like adding an accent to a letter, but in this case turning it from 'i' to 'e'.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Dec 2013, 07:23
*kiss* you might be the only one on this forum aware of that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Valdís on 07 Dec 2013, 00:34
Ár-fixed update:

(http://i.imgur.com/pKmX27u.png)

Since I won't be having none of them there anachronisms! Around that period of development the regular "a" sound had migrated pretty solidly to the Ár rune. Both Ár and Óss are A-letters, of course, but it's not the saaaaame! :-D

Examples of that trend:
Jelling Stones (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Jelling-grosses-tier.gif)
Turinge Runestone (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/S%C3%B6_338%2C_Turinge.JPG)
Skern Runestone (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/DR_81_A%2C_Skern_2.jpg)
Læborg Runestone (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/DR_26%2C_L%C3%A6borg%2C_drawing.jpg)


*kiss* you might be the only one on this forum aware of that.

I don't believe it! How could so many people on a forum be illiterate!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 Dec 2013, 04:14
Well that's easy, we all get the posts read out aloud by Microsoft Sam.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Dec 2013, 21:00

Five hours under the gun with some of the most pain I have ever endured outside of breaking both tibias. Well worth every moment, because this new tattoo is incredible.

I also finally understood the test of the Gorm Jabar in Dune while I was in some of the moments of highest agony. When the Bene Gesseret test to see if someone is human, they inflict incredible pain upon the potential human, with the threat of death should they move. The test is not pain endurance itself, but rather reason, discipline and will. An animal, homo sapiens sapiens or not, will flinch and seek to remove themselves from the source of the pain, netting themselves a swift death. A human being would know that moving would mean instant death, and so endure the pain to avoid being killed, overriding their animal instincts with logic and reason.

After my ink I walked in to Papa Johns to get a pizza and I asked if they had any Pizzas that couldn't have been delivered. The manager pulls two off the shelf and says "I'm about to close so they're all yours man". So up a new calf piece AND two large pizzas. Not a bad saturday eh?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Dec 2013, 22:26
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1459873_10152133539310815_1872086500_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1463773_10152133539385815_1177270398_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1456043_10152133539435815_513218056_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1492308_10152133539220815_795215311_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1415297_10152133539420815_1317124137_o.jpg)

Random weird coincidence of the day? My tattooist Laura was not only my age, BUT she was LITERALLY born the day after me. February 28th and March 1st. The fuck are the odds of THAT
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 08 Dec 2013, 00:12
1/365?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Dec 2013, 00:27
If she is  likely to be within ten years older or younger, then 1/20 of that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 08 Dec 2013, 00:42
Okay, I'll bite: how do you figure?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Dec 2013, 02:27
She's the same age as well as adjacent birthday.  Until he knew her age there was an arbitrary number of years she could have been born in, which is what my estimate accounted for.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Dec 2013, 02:28
Because Paul's figuring the odds for the exact day on the exact year, not just the same date.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 08 Dec 2013, 02:51
Math and logic thinking ... ugh.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Dec 2013, 07:52
Wouldn't it be less likely that she was born on a particular day in a particular year as opposed to just a particular day?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Dec 2013, 15:01
Yes - but the amount less (which I set at 1/20th) depends on what your starting point is to decide what age she could possibly be.  There's no definitive answer unless you define the parameters more fully.

Alternatively, you can say that once you know when she was born, the chance that she was born on that day is 1 - because she was!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: VeraLapsa on 08 Dec 2013, 21:35
Freshly Inked Pic
(http://i.imgur.com/f8Ign1Q.jpg)




Healed. I'll probably get the color redone.
(http://i.imgur.com/XW59uvk.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Dec 2013, 21:37
Yikes, looks like the color bled pretty bad, a quick touch up should sort it though!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Dec 2013, 03:40
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4OcAdUwWzJI/TVwsrW5z9AI/AAAAAAAACk0/T7PHPAZQ2Vo/s1600/Glassjaw17335.jpg)
I want this tattooed on me somewhere. During my deepest depression, Glassjaw were one of the big reasons that I didn't kill myself. It's also reasonably nondescript so I don't see why I'd regret it majorly later. I'm thinking of getting it in the crook of my elbow or thereabouts. It's kind of hard to describe.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Dec 2013, 08:53
Thinking about getting this:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTczWDEwMDA=/$(KGrHqVHJEQFC1ZD03N7BQ4dDmZ(Uw~~60_1.JPG?set_id=880000500F)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Dec 2013, 08:54
Sick. What's it mean?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Dec 2013, 08:55
High Valyrian for "All Men Must Die/All Men Must Serve"
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Dec 2013, 09:19
Cheery!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Dec 2013, 09:30
It's from A Song of Ice and Fire.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Dec 2013, 10:15
Valar Morghulis!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Dec 2013, 11:26
Valar Dohaeris.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Dec 2013, 11:29
I like that, Gaz. I'm starting to like text tattoos more and more. I'm hoping to get STAY CALM on the front of my thighs, an inch or so above my knees, soon.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Dec 2013, 13:02
Mind if I ask what it means?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Dec 2013, 13:25
The STAY CALM? It's something that Shannon Larratt, the founder of BMEzine, had on the inside of his fingers. BME was a huge part of my education in body mods. Shannon died a couple of months ago, so it's partly a memorial to him. It also just as to do with my anxiety and depression. Keeping calm is important for me to be able to handle what's going on around me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Dec 2013, 13:41
Cool. Why that location on your body, though?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 10 Dec 2013, 13:45
I have a design floating in my head based on Nightmare Before Christmas. A silhouette of Jack Skellington with the lyrics, "For a moment, why, I even touched the sky" on either side of him. It's more about the lyric than the film. I mainly want that lyric to remind me even if I mess up, at least I made a go of it. It's taken me a long time to get past the idea that if I can't get something perfect first time, I shouldn't even try.

I'm not sure if I'm prepared to deal with having something so recognisable on me though. My Fallout tattoo design is something that can sort of stand alone separate from the game and should only be recognised by people who have played the game. So in theory just people who like Fallout can address me about it. I don't want to deal with dicks bitching at me for being a Tim Burton fangirl, especially when I'm not. I guess one way to deal with that depends on the placement and its visibility which I'm struggling to decide on. It'll also be a quick way of finding out people I don't want to associate with any further which would save me a lot of time. I think I've talked myself a lot more into this idea than I was feeling before I wrote this paragraph.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Dec 2013, 13:57
I like that, Gaz. I'm starting to like text tattoos more and more. I'm hoping to get STAY CALM on the front of my thighs, an inch or so above my knees, soon.

I want 'just a flower on the wall of society' on me somewhere. Not sure where or how yet though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Dec 2013, 14:01
Cool. Why that location on your body, though?

I want it to be somewhere that I can easily see it. It needs to be easily covered by work clothing. And I don't want it on my stomach or chest. And with basically just my thighs left as an option, it seems like a good place to put them.

Apparently, if you are planning to get a lot more tattoos in the future, it is tough to incorporate text tattoos into new ones down the line. So do consider that when you're choosing placement.

Welu, what about just the lyrics, and maybe something like the moon, instead of anything very obviously from the movie?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 10 Dec 2013, 14:26
I would like a picture along with the text. The moon is a great idea, Neko. I may end up going with that, thanks a lot. That opens up placement options a lot too. :-)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Dec 2013, 16:43
You could do something like this - since the big curly hill was always in front of the moon.

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/126/f/7/the_nightmare_before_christmas_by_citronvert79-d4th35n.jpg

Subtle, but still relevant.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 10 Dec 2013, 17:17
You are full of awesome ideas. That looks like it could turn out really well. I'm really excited for this design now. Many thanks!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Dec 2013, 18:00
Glad I could help!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 11 Dec 2013, 04:48
Since I'm not going to be going to university next year I guess that means I'll need to find a new artist, either in Sydney or Melbourne, and get to work on my new project.

I've been thinking about it and planning it for years so this year I want to start on my dead tree. The roots will start on my thighs and the trunk will come up over my stomach. The branches will start at around my sternum and stretch up over my shoulders and around onto my ribs. I think it's best to go with all black and grey because I think brown will end up fading oddly and I think it'll look better.

I need to start losing some more weight.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 11:23
Me too, man.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Dec 2013, 13:32
Fat ass here, me three.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Dec 2013, 13:34
This fat ass is gonna get a cutie mark type tattoo one of these days. Just need to decide exactly what I want. I can't get a heart because my mom has one on her butt. Maybe a Hello Kitty bow? Hmm.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 13:35
You can't give yourself a cutie mark, you have to wait until it comes on its own!

Oh wait, never mind, that's just with ponies.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Dec 2013, 13:37
comes on its own!

But then it'll just be a white blob...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 13:44
I thought that was spelled differently :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Dec 2013, 13:51
This fat ass is gonna get a cutie mark type tattoo one of these days. Just need to decide exactly what I want. I can't get a heart because my mom has one on her butt. Maybe a Hello Kitty bow? Hmm.

I have a cutie mark tattoo! It's on my thigh!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 13:57
Haha, oh? What's it of?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Dec 2013, 14:05
Guess! No looking back in the thread or trying to google it!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Dec 2013, 14:09
Bah, cutie marks are on the butt! :P

And I never spell the word for semen as anything but come because the other way is just supposed to be a differentiation and it's spelled wrong and it bothers me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 14:31
How is it wrong? I thought it was a completely separate word, if anything I get confused when people spell it "come" because that word means to arrive or to go somewhere. I do agree that cutie marks are on the butt though. Is it a gun, GM?

Tattoo related: Has anyone got a tattoo on their arm near their wrist, but a little bit up? (So to still be coverable by a long sleeve shirt) If so, which arm should I get it on? I wear my watch on my left wrist so should it be on my right?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 11 Dec 2013, 14:39
I have something on the inside of my forearm but it's more near the bend of my elbow than my wrist. I've got it on my left but that was because I had something planned for my right side and I wanted to stay... Balanced? It made sense at the time. Just get it on the side you want, you can move your watch. I've always worn watches or bracelets on my right wrist but I also usually wear a bracelet on my left too.

If you mean the watch might be rubbing on it, then yeah, probably should get it on your right.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 14:40
Well no, my watch has always been on my left wrist and it'd feel weird to have it on my right. I guess it makes more sense to have the tattoo on my right. Just curious, does having a tattoo there make typing difficult?

Also it wouldn't be on my wrist, it'd be a little ways up, so maybe it could work on my left. I don't know. Maybe I should get both sides of the coin, one on each?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 11 Dec 2013, 14:54
No, it doesn't get in the way of typing but I think mine is higher than you're planning. As long as it's not on the bend I don't think it should interfere at all really, not once it's done healing anyway.

I saw you said it would be up a bit from the wrist but some people like to wear loose watches that ride up the arm so I thought that might be your concern. You could draw it on roughly on each arm just see if you prefer one. Even on paper with fresh ink so you could press it down on the skin. It doesn't need to be perfect, just to give an idea.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 14:57
Nah, I wear my watch fairly tight, so it doesn't ride up.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Dec 2013, 15:24
Cum is a Latin word, and come has just been used as slang for ejaculation. Shortening it to cum just seems like a text speak sort of thing, like saying ur instead of your.

Anyway, a tattoo is never going to get in the way of you physically doing anything. It may be a little uncomfortable for the first couple days, but after that you're fine.

I definitely agree with drawing it on each arm and seeing what you like.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 15:26
Cum is Latin for "with", just like "con" is Spanish for "with, but it's also English (a prefix meaning negative, or a word short for confidence trick/person). My point regarding come/cum is that for years I only saw "cum" as the word, and then I saw people using "come" and it seemed odd, because like I said, "come" already had a meaning in English. Why would "come" mean ejaculation?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 11 Dec 2013, 15:30
Maybe because it comes from the penis.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Valdís on 11 Dec 2013, 15:31
So when some cis guy says he's coming, he's coming out of his own penis, for instance?

And, uhm, it's not really penis-users-exclusive, either, is it? Just as a word for orgasm? Like, 'arriving' at it?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 15:34
Right, that doesn't work. That's why it never bothered me as "cum" (separate word), but "come" is just strange.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Dec 2013, 15:38
It's slang... it doesn't always make sense.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 Dec 2013, 15:39
I dunno, I guess it's because I saw it for years as "cum" I'd always assumed it was a completely separate word, rather than a misspelling.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 11 Dec 2013, 15:44
I've seen both spellings used in that sense; I assume that cum originated as a clever-dick mis-spelling.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Dec 2013, 20:26
Bah, cutie marks are on the butt! :P

Actually they're on the flank, which is more analogous to a human's thigh then one's fourth point of contact.

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/287/c/c/skies_of_honor_pre_heal_by_kalashnikovmarine-d4cukl6.jpg)

and finally a reasonably not suck photo of my tattoo:

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1505506_10152143615400815_649629927_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Dec 2013, 14:40
You, sir, are no fun. :P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 12 Dec 2013, 16:02
Garand, where do I know the 'upon wings of honor' line from? I'm certain I've heard it before somewhere.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Dec 2013, 17:38
I wrote it... so I have no idea dude >.>;

It was supposed to be two lines originally with the top line reading "For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky" which is a stealth star trek reference as well as being how I feel, and the bottom would be the current bracketing text.

In other news my calf is in the "itching like a motherfucker" phase of healing. >.>;
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 13 Dec 2013, 04:03
So I've been looking at artists and my top two are Jin-O at Kaleidoscope (http://kaleidoscopetattoo.com.au/tattoo/artists/jin/) and Angus at LifeDeathFaith (http://ldftattoo.com/angus/).

Leaning heavily towards Jin-O. She's amazing and I've seen the thigh pieces she did on my partner and STG and they're both some of the most beautiful work I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: blacksinow on 14 Dec 2013, 11:15
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm holding out for the illuminous hair mod and cyber eyes with built-in wifi!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 15 Dec 2013, 19:41
If I could have fiber optic hair, I would be ecstatic. Like seriously, those lights have always made me wish my hair was like that.

Things to plan for when we all become cyborgs...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Dec 2013, 20:45
I want luminescent sub-dermal implants.

Edit:

So this tattoo is healing hella fast
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2013, 20:52
If I could have fiber optic hair
This makes me think of the USB hair in Avatar.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Dec 2013, 21:21
I'm gonna have $150 more than usual this month and I am seriously considering getting my tattoo. Even though I have debt to pay off.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: blacksinow on 15 Dec 2013, 21:43
You could have a tattoo that says "Exit Only" :p
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2013, 21:45
So I got my coin in the mail. I like it, but I'm not sure I want it etched on me forever.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Dec 2013, 21:57
You could have a tattoo that says "Exit Only" :p

But... why
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Dec 2013, 21:58
So I got my coin in the mail. I like it, but I'm not sure I want it etched on me forever.

Then it's a good thing you have it in your hand! You have all the time in the world to consider if you want it or don't.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Dec 2013, 22:01
Yep! I also kind of want a space related tattoo. Not exactly sure what of, though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Dec 2013, 01:50
If I could have fiber optic hair, I would be ecstatic

I want luminescent sub-dermal implants.

WE ARE WORKING ON TH - *trapdoor*
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 16 Dec 2013, 02:20
I'd prefer to replace my bones with carbon nanofiber and my muscles with a silicon gel that responds to bioelectric impulses. Wheeeee!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Dec 2013, 05:34
I'd want those just to be stronger and more durable!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Dec 2013, 05:54
Yeah I'm down for that. Or at least nano-machines through out this week frame doing maintenance and upkeep.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Blue Kitty on 16 Dec 2013, 07:58
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e6134a4e66e7040e8517db37c40a0ce9/tumblr_mpmtrvWdGO1r7s2kso1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Dec 2013, 09:30
That is siiiiiiiiiick
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Dec 2013, 10:01
Septum plug!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/17/yvunaha7.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2013, 10:03
What does it do? I've never heard of that before - is it just a plug on the inside of your nose? This is probably a rather stupid question but please forgive my ignorance and inexperience: what is the point? It's almost invisible; does it feel different to have it there?


Added: I figured I should go and part-answer my own question using The Googles; I did not realise you could stretch your septum! Is that what you're going to do? That is cool in a kind of fascinating but I'd-never-do-that sort of way (I am a bit of a wuss about things like that, I feel like it'd hurt a lot).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 16 Dec 2013, 10:19
Are you stretching it or is it just so you can keep the piercing open without having visible jewelry?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Dec 2013, 11:43
I had it pierced at a 10g* about 9 years ago, maybe 10. I have since stretched it to 6g, which is where it's been for most of the time I've had the piercing. When I worked at Hot Topic, I could wear a ring in it, but since I now work in an office setting, I have to keep the piercing hidden during the week. I used to have a staple-shaped retainer that sat up in my nostrils (here it is flipped down http://www.bodyartforms.com/gallery/uploads/CameraZOOM-20120423083033209.jpg), but it got irritating when I had any snot in my nose at all, and especially if I got sick. And then I found the septum plug. It's similar to a plug you'd wear in a stretched ear piercing, but the flares are much smaller, as septum piercings are often not as stretchy as earlobes.

It is so damn comfortable. I love it. And no one can see it if they're looking up my nose... which was actually a problem once. In bed. With a guy.

(click to show/hide)

*Here is a great guide to gauge sizing, including a list of comparable household objects: http://wiki.bme.com/index.php?title=Gauge
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Dec 2013, 11:46
That makes sense! Does it feel different to a ring?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Dec 2013, 11:50
I often forget it's even there. With a ring, you have a little bit of weight, and in mine the bead is loose enough to make a faint clink noise if it moves. The real difference is between the staple retainer and the plug. I can rub, blow, pick, bump my nose... anything, and it's not a problem. I don't have to worry about it falling out.

I considered stretching up to 4g, but the larger you go, the harder it is to find a small diameter ring in your size. And I don't want anything that hangs too low in my nose.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 23 Dec 2013, 19:20
Nipple piercings on dudes. Specifically this dude. Provide your thoughts.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Dec 2013, 20:40
I think nipple piercings are bleh in general, but I'm a tattoo guy not a piercing and tattoo guy. Oddly enough for all my love of ink, needles make me nervous. Tattoo needles don't count cause they aren't going THROUGH me. 

That said I say try it, worst case ya hate it and take out the piercings and let'em heal up right?

I do have an opinion question for all of you though.


(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1505506_10152143615400815_649629927_n.jpg)

Should I go ahead and get the ankle cuff that was part of the piece when I designed it? It would be a series of runes about 5 lines deep at the base of the current piece and wrapping around front to the shin.

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Dec 2013, 22:56
I had a septum piercing but couldn't sleep in it so it didn't last.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 24 Dec 2013, 02:45
Jimmy, are you sure your nipples are big enough to be pierced? My ex's were not. But as long as they are, I think guys look awesome with nipple piercings. I wish my ex had been able to get them. I also intend to get mine pierced in the near future.

MoM, what was the problem with sleeping with your septum jewelry in?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 24 Dec 2013, 04:44
I never thought of that. I'll ask a girl I know with nipple piercings what she thinks.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2013, 04:56
My nose immediately got a little stuffy and it was hard to breathe, so I took it out the second night and it closed up (I knew it would happen but I had to).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 24 Dec 2013, 05:15
I'm guessing it was a small gauge, so I wonder how it made it hard to breathe. You could always get it again with smaller jewelry!

Jimmy, you need both enough actual nipple and enough areola to support the jewelry. His nips are smaller than a piece of corn. I suggest talking to a respectable piercer - many piercers would have pierced my ex, but they would have just rejected. You need someone that will say no if they're unlikely to heal, not someone that will do it anyway just to get your money.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2013, 05:28
The jewelry wasn't big (14 I think), but combined with the stuffy nose it was too much for me. Also at this point I'd probably get a tattoo before I tried repierced anything.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 24 Dec 2013, 10:31
Nipple piercings on dudes. Specifically this dude. Provide your thoughts.

Yes. Definitely yes.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2013, 14:52
I've never really understood the appeal of nipple piercings. That's not "I don't like them", I just don't get why.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 24 Dec 2013, 18:03
That's ok, you're not exactly the target audience. Also it's an individual taste thing. There are lots of piercings I don't love the look of. But other people's bodies are not mine to make decisions about.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 24 Dec 2013, 18:48
I am hoping to get a little more sensitivity after getting mine pierced. And if I don't, I'll still love the look. I also want to sort of... make my body my own. It's a small part of why I modify it the way I do.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2013, 19:16
That's not "I don't like them", I just don't get why.
Jimmy, this was the important part of my post you ignored. Neko, thank you, that answered my question. I was curious if it was just aesthetic or if there was some benefit as well (I could've phrased it better, but yeah).
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 24 Dec 2013, 19:31
Sorry!  My post probably sounded angrier than it should have, I was just explaining my position. I'm not sure I understand what you mean? You don't understand why someone would want to get their nipples pierced? Same reason as anything else. Because I want to!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 24 Dec 2013, 20:10
Yeah there's absolutely no guarantee, or even really any likeliness, of gaining any sensitivity with any piercing. I am not very sensitive in the nipple area and I'm just hoping that having the extra weight will make a difference. But I wouldn't go for it if I didn't also just love how they look. The large majority of people get piercings and tattoos and other modifications because they like how they look.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Dec 2013, 20:22
I was wondering if it was just for aesthetics or if there were other benefits. Either are good reasons! I was just curious why you wanted to, and that's out of curiosity, not in a "you shouldn't do it" sense. You seemed to be asking if you should, and I was curious why you wanted it, as that would help answer whether you should or not.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Dec 2013, 11:50
Purely aesthetics.  I think it would look cool, I wanted to find out whether other people thought it looked cool.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 26 Dec 2013, 12:50
Not a fan of nipple piercings, on anybody. But don't let me keep you, if you wanna do it, do it. Just not my kind of thing.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Dec 2013, 13:58
Purely aesthetics.  I think it would look cool, I wanted to find out whether other people thought it looked cool.
I say go for it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 26 Dec 2013, 14:22
Feel free to post pictures :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 27 Dec 2013, 10:32
^Agreed.


I worry about getting mine done because all of my piercings have ended up complicated and angry and infected and rejected, etc, etc, etc. I get a lot more enjoyment out of my tattoos than I do wrestling with piercings. (I also worry that it would hinder breastfeeding situations when those days come.)

But on other people? Yes, please! I love the way they look!

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Dec 2013, 11:12
I'm convinced that your piercings would go better with high quality jewelry, probably in titanium.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 27 Dec 2013, 11:35
Y'know, with the amount of experience you have, I'm inclined to agree with you but my general pessimism, picking problems and lack of funds make it hard to want to test the theory.



As it is, I spend a year saving for each of my tattoos. 2013 was the first year I've skipped since my first one. Makes me sad.  :-(

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Dec 2013, 11:54
Well if you're able to hang out with me when I go to NYC maybe we can get pierced or tattooed together :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 27 Dec 2013, 13:02
Yessssss, absolutely! When are you going? I gotta start savin' my pennies!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 27 Dec 2013, 13:29
I read penises instead of pennies. I was very confused for a moment.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Dec 2013, 13:46
She has to save those as well, I'm sure.

The problem is that I have no specific date. I know I want it to be in the next year, when it's not hot outside. But it sort of depends on when I get my settlement check.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 27 Dec 2013, 15:08
But how do you save a penis? Do you have to put it in formaldehyd?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Dec 2013, 16:56
When you do go, revive the QC MEETUP IN NEW YORK thread!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: de_la_Nae on 27 Dec 2013, 17:09
(http://planescape.outshine.com/crap.planescape-torment.org/images/tattoo6.jpg)

(http://planescape.outshine.com/crap.planescape-torment.org/images/nessa1_small.jpg)

*sighs* Someday...just have to decide which version.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jan 2014, 09:46
So...my left ear hole seems to have reopened on its own after being mostly closed a few years. The right one is still closed. Kind of tempted to put something in there.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 06 Jan 2014, 12:49
I think I'd find a nipple piercing intriguing, on a man or a woman, but be concerned about the potential for accidentally hurting them if I caught it or something. For myself it's not something I'd consider, partly because it just wouldn't suit the image I have, and partly for the same reason as littlecheese mentioned - the fear it would impede breastfeeding.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jan 2014, 16:07
Why would it change your image? Almost nobody would see it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 06 Jan 2014, 18:10
It would change her image of herself, I am guessing, and also how lovers would see her.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 07 Jan 2014, 09:04
Yup, that's basically what I meant. I don't mean "it doesn't project the image I want people to see" but "it doesn't suit who I see myself as".
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Jan 2014, 09:09
I've decided I'm getting the rune work done and "finishing" the tattoo on my calf. Probably by the end of this month.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 08 Jan 2014, 05:31
Does anyone have experience with tattoo concealer makeup? We need some for a play that starts this week, so it has to (a) actually work under bright lights and (b) be available in a store. The tattoo isn't very big but it's visible and all wrong for the period (1956) so they want to cover it up.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 08 Jan 2014, 05:56
Sephora should have some good options. I think Kat Von D has a decent makeup line, including tattoo concealer.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Jan 2014, 05:59
Wouldn't you just use normal concealer?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 08 Jan 2014, 06:12
Normal concealer is not made to cover thick, heavy coloring on the skin. It is just for things like red spots and blemishes.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 09 Jan 2014, 18:38
If not Sephora, check out Ulta. Although I'm surprised theater grade foundation wouldn't cover it up because that shit hides almost everything.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 09 Jan 2014, 20:36
The Kat Von D stuff had really mixed reviews everywhere I found... They looked for Dermablend but couldn't find it locally so the props guy went and got $50 worth of Ben Nye stuff. The actor wasn't thrilled because it's a pretty small stage and he was worried about an obvious cover-up patch being noticeable at close range. Then one of the other actors expanded it with sharpie so it looks like a WWII Army tattoo instead of a quarter-sized blob. The director likes it so we're returning the makeup.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Jan 2014, 20:02
Regardless of your opinion on gauges, I think we can all agree it sucks to be this guy: http://www.funnyjunk.com/Thank+you/funny-pictures/4974641/

Side note, seen some photos circulating of people gauging the space below their lower lip... that seems like bullshit to me for some reason...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jan 2014, 20:25
Wait, doesn't Jeph have that? (That being a stretched labret)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 14 Jan 2014, 21:02
Jeph has a hole in his face? Cause in these pics you could see the dude in question's teeth which does not strike me as safe, or sanitary... >.>;

Like I'm cool with most piercings, even some of the wilder ones, and I have friends who really dig suspension, but... ick.

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Jan 2014, 21:03
I think he took it out and it shrunk back to a smaller size, but I could've sworn I remember him talking about it a while back.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Jan 2014, 04:57
Firstly, it is stretching, not gauging. Gauge is a form of measurement, like inches or centimeters. Just had to set that straight.

Also yes, Jeph has his lip stretched, though I don't know how large. I used to have mine stretched to a 6g, and I can't wait to get it pierced and start stretching again.

Also also, I will be getting my nipples pierced at 12g or 10g this week :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 27 Jan 2014, 06:39
Haha, she said nipples.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jan 2014, 13:41
I wanna get something pierced again. I kinda miss it, and I doubt my job would care...but my next job might.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Jan 2014, 13:44
Nipples is a pretty funny word. Especially when I'm high. Piddle is better, though.

Get something you can hide?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jan 2014, 13:53
Other funny words: underpants and bosom.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Jan 2014, 13:59
Piddle is better, though.

I occasionally drive through a village called Piddletrenthide, which is on the River Piddle.  Also sometimes through Wyre Piddle, which is not.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jan 2014, 14:04
Don't swim there.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Jan 2014, 14:08
Oh mannnnn
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jan 2014, 14:52
I'm afraid to google it, but is piddle just urine? I can't hear "piddle" without "freeze, you diseased rhinoceros" in front of it.


Ah, that was pizzle. Never mind.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 27 Jan 2014, 15:07
As far as I know, yes, it's just another word for urine.

Piddle puddle!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Jan 2014, 15:24
As a verb, the older meaning is "to busy oneself with trifling matters", possibly from the Low German word piddeln.  I might, for instance, "piddle around" instead of getting on with something more important (and this is a phrase I would actually use without self-consciousness).  In the senses "to urinate, urine", it's possibly formed from a combination of pee, piss and puddle.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Jan 2014, 17:47
Nipples are done! They hurt! The barbells are purple!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Jan 2014, 18:04
I'm sure other parts will be, too... 

 :-D :mrgreen: :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 29 Jan 2014, 08:20
My cat sat on my boob. Ouch.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 29 Jan 2014, 08:26
It's the infamous Boobycat, Harbinger of Pain and Scourge of Pierced Nipples!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Feb 2014, 10:48
I have a new tattoo :D

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/13/ze3ahevu.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 12 Feb 2014, 10:52
Seems like sage advice for someone approaching lady bits???
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Feb 2014, 10:53
I would've thought it would face the other way, so as to be a reminder to yourself.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 12 Feb 2014, 10:58
... I like it. Or them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Feb 2014, 11:01
I was told that upside down tattoos look stupid 100% of the time, so I got it facing away from me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 12 Feb 2014, 11:02
I like, don't get me wrong.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Feb 2014, 11:22
Upside down is relative, is it not?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 12 Feb 2014, 11:34
Regardless of direction, they are there, so I think they are still pretty big reminders.

I like it, Neko!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Feb 2014, 13:14
So do I :)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Feb 2014, 13:17
Thanks :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 19 Feb 2014, 10:03
I think I might finally have settled on the idea for my first tattoo. It's gonna be big, but I think I'll like it. Now I need somebody who could draw me a rough first version, because I wanna be able to look at it before paying a tattoo artist to draw the actual design. Anybody feel up for helping me out with that?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Feb 2014, 16:12
If I had any drawing skills at all, I would totally help you out.

I got new conch plugs and just stretched my tragus piercings again and this is how my ears look right now:

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1948044_10151990001502717_797076504_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 19 Feb 2014, 16:18
Opaliiiiiite!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 20 Feb 2014, 12:10
ChaoSera: Just go directly to a tattoo artist with your idea, they know what they're doing much better than some random friend with decent or good drawing skills. The difference between drawing with a pencil on paper and a needle on skin is so different it's really hard to imagine for someone with no tattooing experience what's possible to do or not. Also, what looks awesome on paper might not translate well as a tattoo. I drew up a tattoo sketch for a friend once, when she took it to her tattoo artist he had to completely redraw it anyway.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 23 Feb 2014, 19:30
New piercings :D (the two bars at the top)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/24/uqety8yt.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Feb 2014, 20:43
I think I've decided I'm going to get my long planned ankle cuff to finish this tattoo off in the immediate future.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Feb 2014, 03:52
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/16/magazine/the-existential-anguish-of-the-tattoo.html?_r=0

I have some issues with this article, namely that the author thinks bias against tattoos is gone, but in general I think his premise is off, and that this is more a scrawl against bad tattoos (which totally exist) and the culture that encourages you going and picking something off the wall at random instead of putting your heart in to it and coming up with a design that means something to you.. I just don't think the author himself gets that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 24 Feb 2014, 13:29
I must say I agree with you there.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 25 Feb 2014, 01:54
Neko your new piercings look amazing.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Feb 2014, 06:42
Thank you :D My piercer was so excited to do them. They're achy as new piercings always are, but it's really not bad at all unless I bump them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 09 Mar 2014, 18:46
Just booked in for a consultation with Jin O (http://kaleidoscopetattoo.com.au/tattoo/artists/jin/) for my massive dead tree chest piece. I'm so excited!!! The consult isn't until June but whatever. Gonna be sweeeeeeeeet.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 09 Mar 2014, 19:56
I think that's the first artist I've seen that is actually really good at doing portrait tattoos.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 09 Mar 2014, 20:06
So excited for Saturday <3
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 09 Mar 2014, 20:24
Yay Jimmy! GM, what happens then?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 09 Mar 2014, 20:34
I get the cuff to end my calf piece

(http://i.imgur.com/pKmX27u.png)

"O Freyja, Goddess of Love and Wars, preserve my heart's flame. May my deeds earn me a place in your hall when the valkyrie escort me to my fallen brothers and ancestors."
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 09 Mar 2014, 20:44
Fancy!

My tattoo is finally almost healed (it had a spot that scabbed over and got nasty) so I'm thinking about my next one. I don't know what I want next!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 10 Mar 2014, 00:05
Is that how it works? 'First one healed ... on to the next'? Aren't you going to run out of real estate quickly, then?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Mar 2014, 01:09
It can go as fast or as slow as you'd like. I do prefer to wait until one is healed before getting another, though. And yes, I'd run out of skin very quickly that way. But I know I'll run out of ideas long before I run out of skin.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 10 Mar 2014, 03:20
Yeah, it largely depends on how quickly you want to get things done, the resources you need to do it (time, money etc...) and the ideas you have.

I've been planning my tree for about a year but it's only been in the last few months (since I finished my sleeves) that it became a real option. I don't like having multiple unfinished projects and also I've been saving for it. I also find it's best to wait for one thing to heal before starting something else because I think the body is able to heal everything more efficiently one piece at a time.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 10 Mar 2014, 07:44
I also find it's best to wait for one thing to heal before starting something else because I think the body is able to heal everything more efficiently one piece at a time.

Exactly.

I am also running out of places to pierce. Which means I will probably have to move on to tattoos to satisfy my craving for body modification, at least until I can get my tongue split.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 10 Mar 2014, 07:46
I used to get one tattoo every year. Then I had to start saving money for other things and the tattoo fund quickly ran out. I have 10-15 ideas, so that's not much of an issue (yet). My problem is that I'll run out of money before I run out of real estate. :-P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Mar 2014, 17:30
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t31.0-8/1978398_10152351180150815_1813423944_o.jpg)





Wooooo :3
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Mar 2014, 19:47
Nice. Just wondering though, what's the mark between the tattoos?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 15 Mar 2014, 20:58
Probably just an ink smudge or sharpie or something. Pretty standard but I've never seen a tattooist use a black sharpie before.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Mar 2014, 21:00
Ink smudge. I wiped it off after I took the photo.

I've never seen a tattooist use a black sharpie either, Laura used a purple one to put the lines for the runes in.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 15 Mar 2014, 21:02
I think it's probably because using a bright colour makes it easier to differentiate between sharpie guides and actual tattoos. My artist uses orange.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Mar 2014, 21:05
Yep! That's the exact reason. If you're using it as a guide for line art you need to differentiate between any ink you have down, and any tracings you have down which is usually a blue color.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Mar 2014, 22:01
Shannon Larratt died a year ago yesterday (March 15) and he is a large part of why I got into body modification. I can't believe it's been a year. He is why I got my STAY CALM tattoo as well. I has a sad.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 13:00
I think I'm gonna get some holes punched in me when I'm in the states. Possibly my navel.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2014, 13:07
From what I've heard those don't usually last long.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 13:09
I'm reading about that now. I probably won't get it done but I've found a place I really like the look of so I'll probably be buying some fancy jewellery for my ears at least. Lost a lot of faith in my more local piercing establishments.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2014, 13:12
Where in the states will you be?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 13:16
New Orleans at the start of April. I'll also be briefly in New York but just the airport.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2014, 13:20
How briefly? As in just connecting?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Mar 2014, 13:59
Aw man I wish you could come here. My piercer is amazing. And if the navel is done right, it lasts as long as you want it to.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 14:46
Yeah, just between flights.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2014, 14:47
Dang. If you were there for even a few hours I would've been able to see ya :P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 15:45
Longest layover is just three hours but coming or going I'm sure I'll be so tired and jet-lagged I'm going to sleep through most of the traveling.

Aw man I wish you could come here. My piercer is amazing. And if the navel is done right, it lasts as long as you want it to.

Missed this earlier. I would love to go to your piercer and hang out with you. I really want a few piercings right now and I'm tempted to get them while I'm not working but I think that'd be taken as a sign I won't come back and I intend to in the summer. Plus it would suck to get something and only have it in temporarily so ideally I'd be getting a piercing that's not visible.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Mar 2014, 15:49
Since I work in an office, I get any new facial piercings done with clear glass pieces. Then once they're healed, I can change them to whatever fancy jewelry I have.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2014, 15:52
So what brings you to the Big Easy, Welu?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 16:02
Since I work in an office, I get any new facial piercings done with clear glass pieces. Then once they're healed, I can change them to whatever fancy jewelry I have.

I really want to get a labret piercing but I work in a shop that's pretty strict, so I'd be scared of risking it. I really shouldn't have upper ear piercings but I'm able to hide them under my hair. My manager doesn't care but the higher-ups do and if any of them saw me working with visible piercings I'd be told to take them out, and higher-ups visit a couple times a week so there's no avoiding them. It's kinda bollocks considering they've no rules on tattoos and one lad and I have visible forearms tattoos and nothing has ever been said about them.

So what brings you to the Big Easy, Welu?

RASSLIN'! Gonna see Wrestlemania 30 and it's only two weeks away and I'm so excited!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Mar 2014, 16:04
Nice! I was at 29 when it was in New Jersey.

Yes, New Jersey. In the same stadium the most recent Super Bowl was held in. WHICH IS ALSO IN NEW JERSEY.

(If anyone is confused, both were marketed as being either in NY or "NY/NJ", and while some of the lead up events were in the city...the actual events were at Met Life Stadium in New Jersey, damn it)

Anyway, my point is you'll have fun :)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 18 Mar 2014, 16:10
There are plenty of easily hidden piercings... navel, nipple, crotch, dermal implants anywhere you want, septum, smiley... I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Mar 2014, 16:33
I want nipple piercings but I'm positive mine are too small. Like even when erect they're still pretty much flat, I'd be worried they'd be pierced too deep into the areola if done by the wrong person.
If I had a more reliable piercer nearby I'd get some kind of dermal implants. I could get them in the states but then if there's any issues I'm not sure who I'd go to for help.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Mar 2014, 06:08
So apparently there's the Association of Body Modification Artists in Ireland, but I've looked at the facebook page and I can't say I would fully trust them. I can't find another website for them so I don't know if it's just the FB page that looks sketchy or what.

I would definitely see a reputable piercer (personally, I prefer those that are part of the Association of Professional Piercers) for the initial piercings, especially nipples or dermal implants. But you can easily go to any piercer to have things removed - like the implants - and do just fine, as long as the shop is clean. I would suggest keeping in contact with the original piercer if you get an implant, so you can ask them questions and they can tell you if you need to get it removed. You can also go to a doctor if you need them removed, and they can usually do it with less trauma.

But as long as you have the right jewelry, there's not much you need the original piercer for.

To bypass all this though, you can just come stay with me for a month and get pierced <3
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 19 Mar 2014, 06:19
Thanks for all the advice, Neko. It's really helpful and I'll have a good think about it. Maybe next year when I'm working again and have money I'll be able to see you!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Mar 2014, 09:40
For those of you who want to see my full cuff, check out my book of faces, I just put the video up.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Mar 2014, 05:14
Shiiiit. I've got some discolored skin around two of the words and it's not washing... thinking I may have smeared a little T_T


In other news:
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 25 Mar 2014, 05:45
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo

I can't even think how to respond to that.  Yes, I will admit that I might have started with a somewhat similar reaction in the past, but with such intensity? such... selfishness?  She does end up saying it's all about how she feels hurt by it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Mar 2014, 05:54
Yeah I was rendered rather speechless... my mother was against my tattoos initially but she likes them now, she's even getting one. When in doubt widen your perspective.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thrillho on 25 Mar 2014, 06:52
That article has made me rage.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Mar 2014, 07:02
At least everyone she talks to tells her she's in the wrong.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Mlle Germain on 25 Mar 2014, 07:32
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2012/aug/11/devastated-by-my-sons-tattoo
Wow.... Soooo melodramatic. I can understand that she doesn't like tatoos and doesn't like it that her son got one in particular - tastes are different after all - but comparing it to losing an arm in an accident and saying he couldn't have done anything else to hurt her worse is extreme and completely inappropriate. What message does that send to her son?
Also, why do they even publish this? It's completely irrelevant to everyone else.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Mar 2014, 16:57
So... I'm kinda being paranoid, but could you ink experienced people take a look at these?

http://imgur.com/a/eLDpB

it's a little more visible to the naked eye but the skin around two words is a little greyish and I've never seen that before

My tattooist says just ride out the healing cycle and we'll see where I end up, I already know I need to go in for some touch up and thickening on some of the lines. You can acually see one of the runes that needs a little TLC in the upper right of the second image. Only one or two like that though, so very good over all.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Mar 2014, 20:10
Parts of my most recent tattoo had that look as well, at first. I have no idea what causes it, but it has gone away. Honestly, no matter what it is, you can't do anything about it right now. So it does you no good to worry. I think you need to do what your artist said, just ride it out and let everything heal before you get too concerned.

Remember that the tattoo gun injects ink deep into your skin. If some of the ink got smeared somehow, it would either wash off, or just be in the top layers of skin, like when you write on yourself with marker. Meaning that it will fade.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 26 Mar 2014, 02:27
The woman in that opinion piece reminds me of my dad's reaction when I got my nose pierced. It wasn't really about the nose piercing, it was about his sudden realisation that he couldn't control what I did with my life, and his resulting fury. The fact that I recognised that, even at the time, did not make me any less homeless, however.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Mar 2014, 05:43
Wait, you got kicked out of your own home for getting your nose pierced? That makes that mom seem downright reasonable. I'm so sorry you went through that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Mar 2014, 05:52
My dad didn't talk to me for 3 months after he found out about my tattoos. My mum always tells me not to get any more because I'm ruining my "beautiful skin that [she] made". She usually says this while rubbing my arm in a way that makes me exceptionately uncomfortable. But I also don't like being touched by people I hate so...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 26 Mar 2014, 06:49
I remember that article from a while ago and can't read it again for fear of rage induced headaches. I believe May has got it right though.

The woman in that opinion piece reminds me of my dad's reaction when I got my nose pierced. It wasn't really about the nose piercing, it was about his sudden realisation that he couldn't control what I did with my life, and his resulting fury. The fact that I recognised that, even at the time, did not make me any less homeless, however.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

My Da doesn't like modifications in any form, even obviously dyed hair (so unnatural colours or multiple colours), but he also doesn't really comment on mine. Any time I've shown him something new I've got either a vague shake of the head or, "Hm. It's not as bad as I thought it would be." My Mammy is more vocal about her dislike but she also came with me for support when I got one of my tattoos. Maybe because by asking her to come, I've shown I will always rely on her, despite making other choices totally against her will? Or maybe she's just more chill than she lets on.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 26 Mar 2014, 09:12
I guess I'm lucky, then. My mom had a tattoo before I was born (a badly done heart on her butt), and had some ear piercings. She took me and my sister to get our lips pierced when I was underage, and now wants to stretch her ears - though not to the extent that I have. My dad just doesn't care either way.

My grandparents are curious and not happy about my mods, but they also don't see a point in complaining or worrying about them. My great grandmother definitely disapproves, so I always hide my facial piercings when I see her. The woman is almost 100, I don't mind doing things just to make her happy.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Mar 2014, 09:23
My grandparents are not big fans of my ink, but are content to ignore it, of course it's harder for them to do now that I have an actual exposed piece on my calf, otherwise my folks are supportive, my dad does occasionally remind me about potential career issues, but I've gotten along fairly well in the world so far, so he's not too mussed any more.

I find Jimmy's mother and the lady from the Guardian article to be extremely creepy. It's almost a fetishistic attiude they seem to be taking towards their children. It just strikes be as being off you know?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Akima on 27 Mar 2014, 01:43
My mum always tells me not to get any more because I'm ruining my "beautiful skin that [she] made".
How very Confucian: "Our bodies, to every hair and bit of skin, are received by us from our parents, and we must not presume to injure or wound them. This is the beginning of filial piety."

I confess that filial respect is one of the reasons I would not get a tattoo other than a functional one for radiotherapy etc., but it is not a good reason to condemn others.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 27 Mar 2014, 02:31
And if I believed in concepts such as filial loyalty or respect I would agree.

I do not. Fuck off, mum.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Mar 2014, 04:22
I would not get a tattoo other than a functional one for radiotherapy etc.

Props for being aware of those; I have four dots, two on the front and two on the back, for that very reason.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 27 Mar 2014, 04:22
I absolutely respect my parents, but my meat is my meat. It's the only meat I have, the only meat I'm getting and the one thing I can truly say is mine.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 27 Mar 2014, 12:59
I am quite happy to respect my parents' views on things, but they're not any more deserving of a controlling interest in my choices over my own body than anyone else who I spend time with on a regular basis. In fact I would probably be more influenced by the opinion of a partner than a parent. The point of having children is to raise adults. Adults get to make their own decisions.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 27 Mar 2014, 13:10
My dad had the same reaction when I got my tattoo as your dad had to your piercing, May. When I told him I was planning on getting it, he told me he wouldn't give me the money he'd promised me for my education if I went through with it. I basically told him that if he thought he could use the promise of money as a way to buy me, and blackmail me if I didn't do what he said, he could keep it all to himself because I'm better off without it. Thankfully it made him realise he was being an idiot and apologised, and he even said he hadn't been thinking straight and of course I was right. Now he even likes my tattoo!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Taekwondoin on 27 Mar 2014, 13:52
Well that article made me super angry. And I agree with GM, there was some weird fetishising about her son there, definitely felt very uncomfortable reading that.

Neither of my parents cared about me getting tattoo's, I have 3, my dad has 4, my brother has 6. I don't see how it could ever be their right to criticise your decision on the aesthetic of your own body.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 27 Mar 2014, 14:34
My partner has asked I refrain from getting more visible tattoos and piercings before our wedding, although he knows they're important to me and hasn't outright tried to guilt me about it. I essentially told him if I can get them, I get them, but I'll keep his wishes in mind. He asked that months ago though and he seems more open to the idea of visible tattoos now. I think he just sees pain when he sees any kinda modification and that's where a lot of his dislike comes from, but now he's been with me during a tattoo session they're more mundane.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Loki on 27 Mar 2014, 16:23
Gosh, I am so glad that my mother had a tattoo, so if I ever get one, I won't have to mess around with this emotional shit.

...provided she thinks rationally.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 27 Mar 2014, 16:33
I bet my mom is really happy I have skin sensitivities/allergies to metal and never came home with more face metal. (I surprised her when I got my ears done and she took it in stride rather well, but those are just my ears.) Not that she doesn't want me to do it, she hates all facial piercings equally, but in the way where she gave my bff a face of disapproval when she got her nose pierced and then immediately got over it. If I did it, I'd probably hear about it, but she'd drop it once she realized I didn't give a shit. When the time comes where I finally get tattooed, well, if it's one that easily hidden I really don't think she'll care.

Just picking out what I want for my first tattoo is really freaking hard. I want something 8-bit, I want one that's knitting related, I want something done in embroidery stitches, I want some crow silhouettes, I want the f-holes ala Man Ray, I want this guy (http://www.danatattoo.com/gallery.php?spgmGal=steve&spgmPic=31#currentPicture) to do all of the cats I've had (Chinese and Japanese brush paintings are my art history geek zone), and there's several other ideas floating around in my head. BAH. I need to just pick one and GO.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 27 Mar 2014, 17:02
I think it's easy to understand that as a parent you imagine futures for your child, and that sometimes the realization that those futures are not what will be can be a loss and lead to over the top reactions; parents are humans.  The thing that matters is if they can get over the loss of the imagined you and accept the actual you as an independent human being.  I also understand not wanting to cause ones parents to go through that.

When I came home with my very long honey-blond hair dyed jungle green, my mother cried and then was rather mean about it for a while.  It was a point of friction between us for a while, but now I sort of understand her reaction.  She hasn't mentioned my hair color in years.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 23 Apr 2014, 07:58
Pink poodle socks, purple yoga pants, and a ferret tee: best outfit for getting tattooed? This was just a touch up on my STAY CALM thigh tattoos:

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/23/uqydetap.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/23/uga8eben.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 23 Apr 2014, 08:46
I like your socks, Neko!

Design I'm thinking about, will bring it to the artist to work out spacing and maybe other font ideas. The one I put in was a rough place holder but the style is growing on me. I'm thinking of getting it on the side of my thigh.

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/72badaccfa1db3ac3253eefd0b793e9c/tumblr_inline_n4hqdlJX7M1qivs6h.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 23 Apr 2014, 08:59
Thank you! They were from footcardigan - a sock subscription thingy that an ex got me for Christmas one year :D

I really like that design, and the quote. I think the spacing could be a little more... even? Now, this is my obsessive need for symmetry, so if this is not something you care about, feel free to ignore me entirely. It could be like this:

For a moment, why,
I                     even
 touched the sky

(with the moon between I and even)

Or

  For a moment,
   why, I even
touched the sky

(with the moon to the right or left)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 23 Apr 2014, 13:08
Yeah, I agree about the spacing. I like the idea of the two lines separated but it seems too awkward to get nice spacing that way.

  For a moment,
   why, I even
touched the sky

(with the moon to the right or left)

This might be the best idea.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 23 Apr 2014, 13:28
OR have the words in a circle around the moon. I have so many ideas for stuff that doesn't involve me but once it does, I have no ideas -_-
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 23 Apr 2014, 15:25
I think most people are like that. Less pressure when it's not your skin, maybe.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 23 Apr 2014, 15:28
Ooo, I like the idea of the quote going around the moon.

Also I am going to go meet a potential tattoo artist this weekend with two of my friends! My best friend and I made an agreement to get tattoos sometime after my birthday and before hers (mine is tomorrow, hers is next month) and another good friend is going to introduce us to her pretty awesome artist. Kind of excited.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 01 Jul 2014, 05:58
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/9a/1c/07/9a1c072926e107dd9d889ca3dad416d1.jpg)

First day back from deployment.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Jul 2014, 07:11
Yay ink!

Linds, did you ever get that tattoo?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 01 Jul 2014, 11:33
Nope. The artists at the place we visited had rather meh portfolios and also shortly after my bff found out she was pregnant. So no tattoos for her until December. (Then it's party on Garth.) There's an artist I really want to get in touch with, though. I'll link his stuff when get home.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Mlle Germain on 01 Jul 2014, 14:42
Hallo everyone!
Soo... I've never gotten any tatoo or piercing before, but I am thinking about getting one of my ears pierced (comparatively boring, I know :-P). The thing is, I have no idea how to go about this and I was hoping that someone here - who is prepared to answer some complete beginner questions - could go over some of the basics with me.
Thanks to anyone who answers! I am not on the forum much right now - I have summer holidays and am outside with no internet access most of the time - but I'll be sure to check this thread for answers!
- First of all: I only want to get one ear pierced for now, not both, and I'd like the piercing to be not in the "standard" place for an earlobe piercing, but higher up, so that I could later fit another earlobe piercing in the standard place below if I wanted to (but right now I really only want the one). Is that feasible/sensible for a first time piercing?
- I guess I had better go to a professional piercing studio and have the piercing done with a needle instead of with a piercing gun, right? How do I figure out which piercing studios are reliable and good? (I'm in Germany right now, but I'd also be interested in UK information.) I'll try to ask some people I know, but most of my friends got their ear piercings back at their homes (all over Germany; not where I am now).
- Is there any danger of being allergic to the piercing? I have never had any allergic reaction to jewellery before (as far as I can remember), but I don't wear much jewellery at all. Which material should the piercing be?
- How thick should the piercing be? I saw the discussion about different sizes earlier in this thread. I should probably say that I do not have the intention of ever stretching my piercing.
- I read that earlobe piercings heal in ~6 weeks. Is this realistic? Are there things one can't do during the healing period? I'm thinking about sports, swimming etc.
- Finally, how much should the whole thing cost? I guess this varies a lot regionally/internationally, but some estimates would probably still be helpful for me.

I am really quite scared of how much getting a piercing might hurt (I mean, I have no idea!) and that it might get infected (I'm kind of prone to infections), but I have wanted to do this for a while and now (or maybe rather towards the end of my holidays) seems like a good time in my life to do it.  And I guess if I am careful enough it should heal fine, right?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Jul 2014, 15:02
I have 15 piercings right now (working on getting 3 more in the near future) so I'd say I have lots of experience. I'm writing from the US, I don't know if that will change the perspective on any of this, except the price.

- You can get just about anywhere on your ear pierced, whether it's your first or your 50th. The biggest question is whether it's in cartilage, or just flesh. That will change the feeling, desired size, and healing time. I'm going to answer these as though you want the piercing in just flesh, but if this is not the case, I will answer the questions again for cartilage, if you'd like. You can tell the piercer that you want to be able to fit a "traditional" ear piercing underneath this one, and they will mark it, then let you look at the mark to see if it is where you want it.

- I absolutely think you should go to a studio. Piercing with a gun is not only unsanitary, it can cause far more pain than necessary, cause a lot of scar tissue, and it is more likely to become infected, especially with the jewelry they use. You want to go to someone who will use a single-use, very sharp needle, and then use high quality steel or titanium jewelry (either a ring or a barbell) in the new piercing. What area of Germany are you in, if you're comfortable saying? I know piercing people around the country and might be able to give you an idea of where to look.

- The jewelry for a new piercing should be high quality steel (surgical steel is not necessarily high quality, you're looking for implant grade) or high quality titanium. Both are unlikely to cause an allergic reaction; but if you're worried, titanium is your best bet. It is safe for the large majority of people that use it for piercings.

- How thick the piercing should be will depend on what sort of jewelry you want to wear in it, and what size needles your piercer has. The "traditional" size piercing is 18g; these are the size of earrings you can buy in most shops. But if you find a good piercer, they should have a wide range of jewelry in various sizes, and they can show it to you before you make a decision on what you want.

- Healing time depends on how much you mess with the piercing. Six weeks is a pretty safe bet. As long as it is healing well, you'll be able to do just about anything that doesn't involve direct contact with the open, healing wound. I wouldn't suggest swimming until it is healed, just because it can introduce lots of bacteria to the wound. You would probably be okay, it would just make me nervous, personally.

- My piercer does basic piercings, with titanium jewelry, for $40, and I usually give at least $10 tip. That's in USD. I honestly don't know how much that price differs in other places.

The pain is negligible. The biggest issue, at least for me, is the anxiety, and bracing for the pain that I assume is going to be terrible. The only times I've almost passed out are when I was super tense. Also, piercing through just flesh is surprisingly easy and fast. It will be *deep breath in* *quick poke* *deep breath out* and that's it. The jewelry will feel a little uncomfortable going in, but then that's it. As long as you leave the new piercing alone after that (aside from cleaning), the pain should diminish pretty quickly.

As for infections, you just have to be careful what you let touch it. Nothing dirty; that includes clothing, bedding, hats, hair, hands, pets, etc. Clean it in the shower and one or two other times a day with a saline solution, and otherwise LITHA (leave it the hell alone)!

I am always happy to answer questions, no matter how "beginner", and I know the rest of us are too, so feel free to ask away!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 01 Jul 2014, 15:08
In the UK, you can get your ears pierced at some jewellers' shops, and at Claire's Accessories, and of course at piercing parlors but I don't know much about those. I got mine done at Claire's and it was fine - everything sterile and done properly. They have to do it right because they get so many kids in; parents would kick up a royal fuss if anything went wrong.

I think first earrings are always gold, but I could be wrong. You should have it done with a needle if you're having cartilage pierced; if it's the soft part of the lobe then a piercing gun is fine. [Edit: Neko posted before me and disagrees - she has far more experience here so go with her advice. I had no problems though.]

As for price, Claire's do it fairly cheaply - basically they charge you for the earrings and ear care cleaning stuff, and do the piercing free. I know there's a Claire's local to you in the UK but I don't know personally of anywhere else you could go.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 01 Jul 2014, 15:13
Piercing guns are almost always plastic, and cannot be fully sterilized. So the guns themselves are dangerous. Then, they use the little earrings that are sharp at the back. These are too short for proper healing, and are not nearly as sharp as a good, hollow needle. So while many people have gotten pierced with guns and they've been fine, it is not at all something I would suggest.

The other problem I have with shops like Claire's is that the person doing the piercing is almost never truly trained in the safety and cleanliness precautions needed for piercings. They're usually just some teenage kid that was told to mark and stab.

That said, quality gold or silver can certainly be used for initial piercings.

Oh, and their ear cleaning solution is useless, and it goes bad pretty quickly, unless they've changed formulas recently. They also tell you to rotate your jewelry, something you should not be doing intentionally. I much prefer saline solution (or just salt water) and the LITHA method.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Mlle Germain on 01 Jul 2014, 16:02
Wow, thanks a lot for the really long and informative answer, Neko! This is a lot of information that I will be sure to keep at hand.
I actually just want a flesh piercing for now, not cartilage.
I am in Baden-Württemberg right now and several more times over the next two months. Very good cities for me to get the piercing done would be Mannheim, Ludwigshafen, Heidelberg, and I could probably also reach Frankfurt and Karlsruhe. When I'm with my parents, Hamburg is really good - this might actually be the easiest overall. Maybe you know anyone good in any of these?
I just remembered earlier that a friend had a tattoo done in the same city where I am now and she chose the shop really carefully. Do you think if they do tatoos properly, they'll be ok with piercings, too? Or are those too different to say that? Anyway, I might have a look at that shop.
Now, about the piercing touching other stuff - I guess you can just not sleep on the side the piercing is on, right? I should consider that when choosing the side...
And I should make sure to do it a while before my volleyball season starts again - even though the first piercing is probably rather small, being near a volleyball net with anything that could become entangled in it is probably not a good idea. I know people who cover their (healed) piercings with tape if they don't want to take them out, but that's definitely not sterile.

Thanks for your answer, too, Barmymoo! Considering how worried I am about infections, I think I'll follow Neko's advice and do it in a real piercing studio with a needle. It will be a birthday + getting my master's degree present for myself, so it's ok if it's slightly more expensive.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 02 Jul 2014, 06:13
- I absolutely think you should go to a studio. Piercing with a gun is not only unsanitary, it can cause far more pain than necessary, cause a lot of scar tissue, and it is more likely to become infected, especially with the jewelry they use.

I will second this, as someone who once got a piercing gun stuck on them.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 02 Jul 2014, 07:59
If a shop does tattoos safely, then I think they are worth checking out for piercings. I have asked my friends about piercers in Germany, so I will get back to you when someone answers. The only thing I found through the APP (association of professional piercers) in Germany was this site: http://www.bmxnet.org/ and I can't read most of it. But it may be worth checking out.

It will be in your best interest not to sleep on the new piercing for a little while, yes. It will be painful, and could introduce bacteria to the wound. But there are neck pillows, the C shaped kind, that are great for this, because your ear can go in the middle. Or you can just sleep on the other side for the first couple of weeks. Once it is no longer painful to sleep on it, you should be okay. If you're worried, just put a clean towel or t-shirt or something you can change easily over your pillow and sleep on that.

Since it is just through flesh, you will likely be getting a small size. If they use a ring, it is very unlikely to get caught on anything. A barbell has a higher chance of getting caught, but the two round beads should make it easy to untangle from most things. So you'll probably be fine with volleyball. Tape is definitely an option, but you are correct, it's not going to be clean enough for the piercing for a while.

The thing with piercings is that you're 1) making a fresh, open wound and 2) trying to convince your body to accept a piece of metal. Healing a piercing wound already takes time, as it needs to heal inside and out. Then you're adding metal that your skin thinks shouldn't be there. So your body needs time and rest to heal it properly. So I try to get pierced when I'm not going to be doing much, like excessive exercise or taking a new medicine. I want my body to concentrate on healing that piercing as quickly as it can.

You can still get pierced even before those things, it will just take a little longer to heal. So I just try to make it as easy as possible for my body.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 02 Jul 2014, 09:52
Based on person experience, just because a place does tattoos well it does not mean their piercing is great. While one place might offer both services, here the piercer generally just has a space in the same building. Also UK/Ireland is for the most part bad for using outdated info and techniques. Even just getting titanium or steel jewellery like a Neko talked about is a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 02 Jul 2014, 10:20
Oh yeah, there's certainly no guarantee that a good tattoo artist works with a good piercer. But I do think it's worth asking around. You want to ask about cleanliness, jewelry, and how they suggest you heal a new piercing. That will tell you if they're decent or not.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 02 Jul 2014, 15:58
I have had my ears pierced twice, once when I was younger and once as an adult.

The first time was when I was a kid, in a jewelry shop, and they pierced with a gun. I had "gold" studs put in. I think I typically cleaned my piercings with hydrogen peroxide because that's what my mom said to do. Not only did it hurt like hell, but I constantly got infections and one of my ears never healed properly. I ended up taking them out and letting them close back up. Later I found out I'm allergic to nickel (common in cheap jewelry) and very sensitive to other metals.

The second time I got pierced in a tattoo and piercing shop by a very professional piercer. I got pierced at 10g with a needle and had glass plugs put in. Not much pain and no infections! I used saline solution to soak my piercings and it worked very well. I've never had any issues with my piercings (other than I found out I have a sensitivity to black o-rings).

So based on personal experience and from listening to people here who have lots of experience with piercing, I would highly recommend following Neko's advice.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 02 Jul 2014, 16:16
Apparently a lot of people have issues with the black (nitrile) o-rings. I always have to use silicone o-rings, or my piercings get red and itchy and unhappy.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 02 Jul 2014, 20:55
Eeeeee got another tattoo appointment scheduled for tomorrow evening! Getting a devil to match the angel ^^
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 02 Jul 2014, 23:25
jumping in to be on the "Listen to Neko" wagon.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 03 Jul 2014, 01:37
Welp, I know nothing about piercings!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 03 Jul 2014, 01:56
Pretty much, May! But that's OK, you know a shitload about other important stuff!

Just going to echo what Neko has said. She knows her stuff.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 03 Jul 2014, 02:00
Just to weigh in on the sleeping thing, when I got my ear pierced I took to sleeping with my head on my arm, but in such a way that my arm basically formed a U and my ear was free in the middle. So basically a U-shaped pillow that I didn't have to buy.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Jul 2014, 04:06
Welp, I know nothing about piercings!
Thanks to Neko's post, that's no longer true! :roll:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 03 Jul 2014, 04:51
Yeah never ever EVER get anything pierced anywhere but a professional studio. I had my ears pierced at a hairdresser (that's normal in Norway, and I was 12 so I didn't know any better), they used a gun and jeez. The hole in my right ear is so wonky and crooked I can't find the exit for it when I try putting a new earring in, and I often end up fiddling too much and it starts bleeding. When I take out the earring after wearing it for a day, it's all crusty and gross. After 13 years of having my ears pierced, this still happens! I hardly ever wear earrings because of it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 03 Jul 2014, 05:53
I guess I was lucky then, I've never had any problems at all with my ears. Except that sometimes I go for more than a year without wearing earrings and then it's tricky to get them through again...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Jul 2014, 06:21
Welp, I know nothing about piercings!

That's okay, May; the majority of people still think it's okay to get pierced with a gun, and need a lot of convincing to realize that it isn't. It's just something that everyone does. And yes, many people do just fine. But the complications far outweigh those involved with using a needle instead, at least, when it's handled by a professional.

Flesh piercings close up a lot easier and faster than cartilage piercings. When you get pierced, and it heals, there is sort of a tube of scar tissue - the fistula - that holds the piercing open. The more scar tissue there is, the more difficult for the piercing to fully close. Which is why stretched piercings rarely close up completely. But it explains why many people with gun pierced ears can leave their jewelry out for so long, and still get it in months later; there is more scar tissue.

If I left out any of my piercings for more than an hour or so, stretched or not, most would close up enough that I couldn't put my current jewelry back in again. The only exception to that is my earlobes, because I have stretched them so much, and for so long.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 03 Jul 2014, 17:36
(https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/s526x395/10483254_10154313625150514_7721220825148633915_n.jpg)

^_^
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Jul 2014, 20:10
Nice.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Mlle Germain on 04 Jul 2014, 04:13
Wow, now I also read everyone else's answers on the ear piercing issue!
Thanks for all helpful things!
I will check out the website you linked, Neko!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Jul 2014, 16:55
so I think I have the rest of my tattoos planned out.

I know I'm getting my Adeptus Mechanicus  gunsmith tattoo on my right shoulder and I might turn that into a full sleeve or a half sleeve with armor and mechanical elements. On the left side I want to do a half sleeve of a Celtic tribal piece blending into the triqueta, I already have. Then on the left leg I want to complete my grieves with armor and more not work and perhaps a large Mjolnir.

Then on the right calf I want to do a large nerd pride tattoo with a blend of symbols from various games, movies, anime, comics, and other properties I like.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: MrBlu on 16 Jul 2014, 14:27
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/17/3a9u3y3e.jpg)

I DID IT!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Jul 2014, 14:43
Bought a purple cushion? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 16 Jul 2014, 14:58
... I always knew I'd post here when I got my first tattoo, and 4 years or so later, it came to me... So here I am. Hi. =]

Congrats! Also welcome back!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jul 2014, 19:43
What do the numbers refer to?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 17 Jul 2014, 01:13
Maybe they rank the best tasting parts of the pig  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 17 Jul 2014, 01:24
Yay! Tattoo for MrBlu!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: MrBlu on 17 Jul 2014, 21:49
What do the numbers refer to?
The numbers identify to the different cuts of pork. From 1 - 6; Ham, loin, ribs, butt (shoulder), leg, belly (or BACON).

Additionally, I've added a Jamaican touch to the chart by labeling the tail "(7)". Pigs tail is pretty popular here and is a staple in stew peas. =]
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 19 Jul 2014, 17:24
New piercings!!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/07/20/tu9u5yja.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 19 Jul 2014, 20:32
looking good!

Also, on nipple piercing in the 1890's  (http://www.edwardianpromenade.com/edwardians/punk-rock-edwardians/)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 04:28
I've been thinking about my first tattoo.  Specifically, I'm thinking about getting my family coat of arms done on my forearm, but I'm old enough that I've gone through a few cycles of not being excited about stuff I used to be really into, so I'm hesitant to get a tattoo.  Seems kinda permanent.  Besides, the family motto is religious, and I'm atheist. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Jul 2014, 05:54
The motto's religious, but that doesn't really matter to you, the personal meaning of it being your family motto is what matters. I'd think on it for a couple weeks then decide. I'd also recommend getting it somewhere besides your forearm like your shoulder.

One of my girlfriends is a tattoo artist, and she needs work time, so she's offered to start drawing stuff up for me. Basically whatever I want, and I only have to kick in for supplies now and then.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Jul 2014, 07:07
You don't need to make a decision any time soon. You can think about it indefinitely if you want.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 07:14
Any advice for someone thinking about a first tattoo?  I know it's gonna hurt like fuck, but I can't imagine it hurting worse than what I'm already used to. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Jul 2014, 07:16
It's like someone pinching you with long nails. It's not getting licked by a kitten (as my tattoo artist says) but it's really not that bad. And if it gets to be too much for you, then you can take a break. Usually, the more you have done in one sitting, the more your body floods you with endorphins to make it hurt less. But everyone has a breaking point, and you just need to be vocal about yours. The artist will understand.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 30 Jul 2014, 10:22
Any advice for someone thinking about a first tattoo?  I know it's gonna hurt like fuck, but I can't imagine it hurting worse than what I'm already used to.
The pain can depend on where it is.  When I got mine (upper-arm), it just felt like someone snapping me quite rapidly with a rubber band.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Jul 2014, 11:04
Generally, the more fat you have between your skin and your bone, the more tolerable it will be. But some places it doesn't matter. Here's a chart that seems to be fairly accurate:

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e0/45/f7/e045f7ddfb851ef4c56d58535f67884d.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Jul 2014, 11:22
Well, that explains tramp stamps.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Jul 2014, 11:41
Tattoo time also matters for that, for example my calf piece didn't hurt much... till about four and a half hours in, and I nearly passed out from pain the last half hour of the total six.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 30 Jul 2014, 12:16
On the other end of tattoo time, the tattoo on the front of my shoulder only took ten minutes but when it got close to the collarbone it bloody well hurt. Easily one of the most painful things I've ever gone through but it was also short and my tattoo artist was lovely which helped a lot. Also since it was a small design and didn't take long, I never even reached the point where my body could kick in the endorphins.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Jul 2014, 12:21
Anything close to the collar bone is gonna be a bad time...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 30 Jul 2014, 12:54
Yep. At least it wasn't directly on it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 30 Jul 2014, 12:55
That said I would love to have tattoos there if I could take getting them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 18:08
Generally, the more fat you have between your skin and your bone, the more tolerable it will be. But some places it doesn't matter. Here's a chart that seems to be fairly accurate:

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e0/45/f7/e045f7ddfb851ef4c56d58535f67884d.jpg)

That is actually a very handy diagram.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 30 Jul 2014, 20:08
Well, that explains tramp stamps.

(http://magnetforfoolishness.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/gif181.gif?w=640)

yeah? Your suggesting that women who get their lower back tattoed are judged as 'trampy' because it hurts to get tattooed there more than it hurts to get tattooed on traditional 'first tattoo' locations for men (the outer bicep and outer calf)?

seriously though, can we stop using the phrase 'tramp stamp'
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 20:58
Isn't a lower back tattoo called that regardless of gender?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 21:13
I know I called it a tramp stamp when making fun of my old wingman Jason when he got one.  It was tribal, too.  But I guess verbal abuse was always a major part of the social dynamic in our group, so I don't know if that counts. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 21:27
Who gets a tribal tramp stamp? :psyduck:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 21:29
This guy named Jason, apparently.  It wasn't even the 90's, which is where most bad decisions live. 
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Jul 2014, 21:43
Who gets a tribal tramp stamp? :psyduck:

Lots of people, it's surprisingly popular.

You seem some shit if you spend enough time in tattoo parlors.

Since they came up, this 5 second film is relevant.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 22:22
Ahh yes, the '90s. I remember them well.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 30 Jul 2014, 22:29
I've almost exclusively heard the term applied to women. When I have heard it used for men it is to compare them to a woman as an insult. urban dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tramp+Stamp) agrees.

Regardless, I hate the idea that a tattoo is bad or trashy because of where it is located.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 30 Jul 2014, 23:11
Well, that explains tramp stamps.

(http://magnetforfoolishness.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/gif181.gif?w=640)

yeah? Your suggesting that women who get their lower back tattoed are judged as 'trampy' because it hurts to get tattooed there more than it hurts to get tattooed on traditional 'first tattoo' locations for men (the outer bicep and outer calf)?

seriously though, can we stop using the phrase 'tramp stamp'
NO, I flippantly suggested that the trampstamp is placed there so often because the diagram suggests it hurts less.

Also, no, 'we' cannot stop calling it a trampstamp because it's a frigging lovely word. Although in everyday conversation I sometimes will use 'aarsgewei'.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 30 Jul 2014, 23:36
The diagram suggest it hurts more than outer biceps or calves.

And if you want to continue to use the phrase because it is fun to say, then know you're being a jerk when you do so. It's a phrase used to demean women for tattoos that make them "trashy" and is at best a pretentious and elitist way to judge other people's choices a about their own bodies, and at worst is terribly sexist.

This thread has traditionally been a place where people can talk freely about their modifications and get advice without judgment; using an insulting term to refer to a type of tattoo that it's possible members actually have ought not to be tollorated.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Loki on 31 Jul 2014, 00:01
Moderator Comment Agreed.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 31 Jul 2014, 00:39
Okay, Jerk it is. I'm good with that.

Am I reading the diagram wrong then? Blue seems to indicate that someone should pass out from the pain. Yellow seems to indicate 'irritation'. Lower back is yellow ... so ... ?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 31 Jul 2014, 02:00
I hate the word "tramp". There's no good meaning for that word, unless you're using it as a verb I guess. Every noun-form is derogatory.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Jul 2014, 06:09
Speaking of pretentious elitism, I was out the other night and had a "wonderful" discussion with someone who looked like they'd won a shrapnel catching contest using only their face (i.e. they had an unholy fuckton of piercings) and while I complimented them on their cenobite aesthetic they just could not grasp why I, a heavily inked individual, does not have piercings. As I've explained it's not even an anti-jewelry thing as I've considered and in some cases worn, ear cuffs before, nor is it a problem with needles per say... it's those needles going THROUGH me. This individual was very dismissive and judgey about that to the point of seeming exclusionary

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 31 Jul 2014, 06:22
People seem to do that a lot. It's pretty assholey to me. You don't want piercings, so what?

Also I now have 17 piercings. All but two are above the neck.

Also also thank you all for trying to get rid of "tramp stamp," at least around here. It's terribly offensive.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Orkboy on 31 Jul 2014, 07:01
After having pulled out a guy's piercings during a fight, I will never have piercings.  Fucker bled everywhere.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 31 Jul 2014, 07:09
Also also thank you all for trying to get rid of "tramp stamp," at least around here. It's terribly offensive.

I agree with this statement.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 31 Jul 2014, 07:13
After having pulled out a guy's piercings during a fight, I will never have piercings.  Fucker bled everywhere.

And that's the third reason. I don't keep my hair closely cropped for fashion's sake.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 31 Jul 2014, 08:00
Most of my piercings are either too large or too difficult to grab for them to be pulled out in something like a fight.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 31 Jul 2014, 08:05
Okay, Jerk it is. I'm good with that.

Am I reading the diagram wrong then? Blue seems to indicate that someone should pass out from the pain. Yellow seems to indicate 'irritation'. Lower back is yellow ... so ... ?

There is a stripe of orange down the center of the back indicating that that location has moderate pain, the outside of the bicep and the outside of the calf are bright yellow, indicating they are low pain.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 31 Jul 2014, 08:15
The stripe down the back (as I am sure Kat knows, just saying for everyone else) is to show that anything over the spine fucking hurts. Any spot where the tattoo gun can make your bone vibrate hurts like fuck. Thankfully I have plenty of padding so it's not as big of a problem for me!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 31 Jul 2014, 10:24
I saw a woman in clinic recently who had tribal scarification on her face and stomach. The facial scar was just a cut on one cheek, and I didn't realise it was deliberate until she said so, but on her stomach she had wavy lines coming out from her belly button like a sun. I involuntarily said "it's beautiful!" but when she said that it'd been done when she was a baby I felt a bit weird about it, and then she said that she hated it and I realised how awful it must be to have something that you can never get rid of, that's so visible. There's no way she can hide the scar on her face, and during pregnancy she must have to explain her abdomen to everyone who sees her which is a lot of people. She had also had type 2 circumcision, which I suppose isn't very surprising in a culture that ritually cuts babies' faces and abdomens as well. It was beautiful though, and if she had chosen to have it done as an adult I'd have thought it was great. The fact that it was forcibly done to her and she hated it made me feel really conflicted about having liked it, and really really wish I hadn't said so.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Noxx on 31 Jul 2014, 10:29
The stripe down the back (as I am sure Kat knows, just saying for everyone else) is to show that anything over the spine fucking hurts. Any spot where the tattoo gun can make your bone vibrate hurts like fuck. Thankfully I have plenty of padding so it's not as big of a problem for me!

It's not? I'm fat as hell and any work on my back is MURDER. My full back piece is still only half done because I keep putting it off. I can sit forever for arms or legs, but I'm lucky if I can give up a full hour on my back before threatening to shoot my artist.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 31 Jul 2014, 12:04
Generally, the more fat you have between your skin and your bone, the more tolerable it will be. But some places it doesn't matter. Here's a chart that seems to be fairly accurate:

(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e0/45/f7/e045f7ddfb851ef4c56d58535f67884d.jpg)
Well, seems like the tattoo I'm planning to get is going to hurt like fuck. Not that I'd expected anything else.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 31 Jul 2014, 12:09
Are you getting your knees or your genitals tattooed?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 31 Jul 2014, 12:12
No, luckily not the worst areas. But I'm planning a tattoo that'll cover most of my right side shoulder and chest and part of my back.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 01 Aug 2014, 11:54
I don't have much in the way of fat anywhere and I've never experienced any pain from tattooing that was unbearable. My inner arm was a bit rough when getting my sleeve, but not too bad. My fingers were the highest intensity but the duration was short.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 07 Aug 2014, 01:44
I am currently affluent enough to get my first tattoo done. Yet I can't decide on an artist because nobody in my social circle has tattoos so it's kinda hard to get recommendations.
Is it a bad idea to have your first tattoo be a really big one, for some weird reason or another? Or does that not matter at all?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 07 Aug 2014, 08:37
I don't think it matters at all. Just know that you may not be able to sit for too long for your first session, so if it's a big piece you may have to break it up into a couple sessions.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 10 Aug 2014, 13:25
My first (and only) tattoo is pretty big, and I was the first to get one in my circle of friends too. Look up places and portfolios online, good tattoo artists usually don't hesitate putting their work online. When it comes to pain, I guess it depends on where your tattoo goes (mine is on my arm/shoulder), but mine took about five hours and it wasn't a problem at all to go through with it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 14 Aug 2014, 06:20
seriously though, can we stop using the phrase 'tramp stamp'
NO, I flippantly suggested that the trampstamp is placed there so often because the diagram suggests it hurts less.

Also, no, 'we' cannot stop calling it a trampstamp because it's a frigging lovely word.

I can't fathom a situation in which I would respect you less.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 14 Aug 2014, 10:24
That's a lack of imagination.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Aug 2014, 20:04
Evan that's dangerously close to a personal attack, please refrain from doing so in the future.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 15 Aug 2014, 10:27
Noted and understood.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Aug 2014, 13:56
Thank you.

And Beo, if a phrase makes someone uncomfortable, "I like using it" isn't a reason to keep using it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: MrBlu on 17 Aug 2014, 01:38
(I'll put something more appropriate here in a moment)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Akima on 19 Aug 2014, 16:15
I've almost exclusively heard the term applied to women.
When applied to people, "tramp" is always a loaded, sexist word. Applied to men it means they are poor and itinerant, being roughly the equivalent of "hobo" or "swaggie". Applied to women, it means they are sexually promiscuous. One relates to a socio-economic status that might not be the tramp's fault (and is frequently mythologised positively in art, literature, songs etc.), the other implies that the woman is of bad character from choice.

I'm totally not a body-art person, but I'm familiar with the term "tramp stamp". Is there any term for tattoos on men that has the same currency in general use? I can't think of one, and that immediately makes me suspicious that the term is a sexist insult in addition to any disrespect it shows to people with ink. I don't have much to say in here, because it is not my thing, and I prefer to lurk and learn, but I don't understand why someone would post in a forum thread specifically dedicated to tattoos and other body mods, using negative vocabulary towards tattoos, or the people who get them.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 19 Aug 2014, 18:26
Well said. That's pretty much exactly what I was thinking when it first came up. Thank you.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 19 Aug 2014, 19:03
Thank, Akima. That's exactly why I have always hated that term. It comes loaded with tonnes of sexism, classism and shaming.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 20 Aug 2014, 06:44
The term is often used on men with a tattoo in the same spot, but it's meant to demean them even more than using the term for women, because it's a "woman's" tattoo spot.

Basically it's dumb all around.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 20 Aug 2014, 07:26
The term has always irked me both as a woman and as a tattooist.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 20 Aug 2014, 17:49
You could just call it a tattoo, because that's what it is.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 23 Aug 2014, 16:56
Got my lip pierced again! Finally!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/24/eqeba8yh.jpg)

I retired it maybe 5 years ago, because I couldn't find jewelry that I could wear that hid it without being horribly difficult to keep in. I've missed it a ton.

This was pierced at 12g and immediately stretched to 10g, and my goal size is 6g right now. Though I may go a bit larger.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Aug 2014, 08:37
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/melanie-mcdonagh/2014/08/tattoos-are-sad-and-stupid-we-should-discriminate-against-people-with-them/

I think I found a secret website for old white mid to low upper class (or delusions of same) British people too conservative for whatever the British equivalent of Fox is.

Any one have a LOIC script handy? :P

(Dear NSA, Kidding guys.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Aug 2014, 10:01
I have a tattoo appointment on Friday. Partly to keep me from continuing to self harm, partly 'cause I wanna. The problem is that I haven't decided on what to get, yet. I want a firelizard from the Pern novels by Anne McCaffrey, but my tattoo artist is having a sort of sale on horror tattoos right now. I love horror imagery and I've always wanted a tattoo from the Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark series. I can't decide between these two:

(http://i45.tinypic.com/t86zrc.jpg) (http://bogleech.com/halloween/scaryeyes.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 28 Aug 2014, 12:16
Personally, I prefer the top one. Both are very interesting, visually.

I'm getting a new tattoo soon as well, for much the same reason. Depression has been coming on hard lately, so I'm hoping this will calm it down for a while. I would just do it myself, but I want it on my left wrist and that's the hand I tattoo with.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: bainidhe_dub on 28 Aug 2014, 13:20
I really like the negative-space thing going on with the first one, too.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Barmymoo on 28 Aug 2014, 13:53
I prefer the top one as well - I think it's to do with the relative size of the skulls.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 28 Aug 2014, 13:56
Agreed, the way the top one is shaped makes me think it'll look better as a tattoo than the bottom one.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Aug 2014, 18:03
Thanks everyone! I decided on the top one and I can't wait!!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 29 Aug 2014, 03:03
Can't wait to see it! I loved those books when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 29 Aug 2014, 09:15
Good luck, Neko. It's a really great design choice.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Aug 2014, 00:26
It's amazing and I love it!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/30/4ene9yge.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 30 Aug 2014, 00:42
Agreed.

That black at the top looks pretty intense, will that mute down a bit as the ink settles into the skin? Does ink settle into the skin?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 30 Aug 2014, 04:34
That looks bad-ass. Props to your artist.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 30 Aug 2014, 05:04
I really, really love it, Neko.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 30 Aug 2014, 05:55
Neko, that's awesome!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Aug 2014, 16:07
Thanks guys! It will fade a little as it heals. Tattoos are always brighter and more colorful when they're initially done. Solid black rarely stays nearly that dark.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Papersatan on 30 Aug 2014, 16:52
Perfect!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Sep 2014, 15:18
DOGGY!

(right?)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 02 Sep 2014, 15:23
Something like that :P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 02 Sep 2014, 15:54
I want to get a tattoo of Jessie from Toy Story. Like, book a session, right now, want to get so bad.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ev4n on 03 Sep 2014, 05:55
Now that it's done, it kind of reminds me of Zero from Nightmare Before Christmas.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Sep 2014, 09:16
Welu, maybe start saving for that tattoo specifically?

And yeah I can see that. The long nose seems to confuse everyone haha
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 03 Sep 2014, 12:30
I will do, Neko. Seeing your tattoo has got me all excited.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Van donk III on 03 Sep 2014, 13:00
That is super badass, Neko.

I only got a tricycle, because TRICYCLE.

(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/van_donk_III/P9030882_zpse03ae001.jpg) (http://s147.photobucket.com/user/van_donk_III/media/P9030882_zpse03ae001.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 07 Sep 2014, 09:55
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-09/4/19/enhanced/webdr02/anigif_enhanced-29044-1409873957-9.gif)

Neko, every time I see one of the illustrations from Scary Stories, I'm going to think of you, haha!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 07 Sep 2014, 17:22
Yay tricycle!

That is fucking terrifying, Linds. And awesome. And yay!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Sep 2014, 10:26
Conrad Poos has seen better days.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 08 Sep 2014, 14:13
I have so many tattoo desires and no monies.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 08 Sep 2014, 23:36
I have so many tattoo desires and no monies.
I know that feeling.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Sep 2014, 20:51
Holy fuck this is sooooo cool!

Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 25 Sep 2014, 06:47
There's a tattoo thread on one of the other forums that I visit and there's been a lot of dot work being posted there. It's the sort of thing that really tempts me.

I find this sort of work really beautiful.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/341/a/6/dotwork_tattoo_rose_for_polly__by_dotworkdamian-d4ieooo.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 06:54
Wow.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Sep 2014, 07:57
My concern with dot work like that is that it will fade in a couple years - and even just a little fading will make that rose practically invisible.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 25 Sep 2014, 08:07
True, but then the transience opens up the opportunity to develop and change the artwork over time. It's a dimension that is rarely explored in tattooing.

For instance, I could see this piece evolving and shifting around the base points in a way that isn't available with coverups.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6160/6217473799_8d9ed382af_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 25 Sep 2014, 19:26
They're definitely lovely, but I think I've heard somewhere that pointillist tattoos are difficult to do?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 20:02
My concern with dot work like that is that it will fade in a couple years - and even just a little fading will make that rose practically invisible.
Having no sunlight on them kinda helps.  An old friend of mine didn't have any done in this style, but even the ink she had gotten done years before was perfectly bright, because she didn't expose any part of her body with art on it to the evil day star.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Zwammy on 27 Sep 2014, 11:00
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6160/6217473799_8d9ed382af_z.jpg)

Wow, any idea how long this took?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Active Madness on 27 Sep 2014, 11:03
Dot work is really incredible. I'd get a piece done entirely in it if it weren't for fading/bleeding issues. It would really lend itself to the style of 19th century book illustrations </geekout>
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 11 Oct 2014, 18:16
New tattoo! It hurts! And getting it was pretty fucking painful too. My tattoo artist is lucky I like him so much.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/12/a4u4yvu2.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 11 Oct 2014, 21:40
I love that quote so much.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 12 Oct 2014, 00:19
Love it! It's gorgeous.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 12 Oct 2014, 10:15
Yeah I had to get the quote. The other leg will have the sandworm, eventually! :D :D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 13 Oct 2014, 00:34
As you know I haven't seen the movie, so I have no idea what they look like, but might I still suggest an Arakkian Sandworm?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2014, 08:35
Not nearly as adorable :P
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 13 Oct 2014, 08:53
You don't think this is adorable?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/DuneTV-Sandworm%2BThopter.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2014, 08:55
Not as adorable OR as pretty!

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120610185620/villains/images/d/d5/Sandworms.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 13 Oct 2014, 13:06
... Just draw a penis with teeth already, get it over with.

Or find some awesome sandworm art.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Oct 2014, 13:10
I think Neko has already found sandworm art that is awesome when she wants to get a tattoo of it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2014, 13:31
This is one that I like a lot, but the idea isn't completely fleshed out yet. Gotta talk to my tattoo artist and see what he says.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/10/14/dyza8uhu.jpg)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Oct 2014, 13:38
Ooh! I like that! You gonna get it in colour?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Oct 2014, 13:57
*Fleshed* out :claireface:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 13 Oct 2014, 14:56
Ooh! I like that! You gonna get it in colour?

I think so! I basically go to the artist and say "I like this thing" and he makes it amazing. So I dunno exactly!

*Fleshed* out :claireface:

 :roll:
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 13 Oct 2014, 15:00
You don't think this is adorable?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/DuneTV-Sandworm%2BThopter.jpg)
“Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless the coming and going of Him.
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people. ”
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Oct 2014, 21:26
http://www.returnofkings.com/45334/5-reasons-why-girls-with-tattoos-andor-piercings-are-broken

I know it's ROK. I know I should know better, but fuck I wish this was parody.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 15 Oct 2014, 22:26
Has there ever been a justifiable reason to read anything on ROK? I would rather read the Daily Mail cover to cover than feed their money-grubbing clickbait.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 15 Oct 2014, 22:35
To know what the Enemy is thinking?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Oct 2014, 00:40
I kinda had to read that one, it's click bait and got my click, but the premise was too ridiculous to pass up. Thankfully I use adblock. (I disable on QC Jeph!)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: The Seldom Killer on 16 Oct 2014, 01:29
To know what the Enemy is thinking?

Read the About section on ROK and then all you'll ever need to do is read the link title to know what kind of cliched and predictable shit they're thinking. It's always the same, it's always vile and risible nonsense that makes the thinking of Matthew Hopkins enlightened and progressive. Every time you click on one of their links they get money, plain and simple. All the money that they get goes directly towards supporting their dismal lifestyles and perpetuating their message to the impressionable and emotionally vulnerable.

If you really feel you must read what they're writing then at least have the descency to lob a grep script at the site to hive off a text only feed so they don't get paid.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 16 Oct 2014, 01:34
Personally, I'm not masochistic enough to read any of their shite.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 16 Oct 2014, 05:36
I'm still waiting for Roosh V to publicly announce he's been making all this shit up to see what kind of losers would actually fall for it, and he's horrified, and they'll be super embarrassed and go disappear in a giant hole in the ground and then Roosh V will apologise for doing such a stupid thing in the first place and he'll disappear too, and everyone else lives happily ever after.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 16 Oct 2014, 05:37
(... FYI: That was the nice version. The actual version of what I hope will happen I'll keep to myself.)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Oct 2014, 06:18
If it was all satire it would slightly restore my faith in humanity.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 25 Nov 2014, 13:15
I am booking a tattoo session this weekend if it kills me.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 25 Nov 2014, 13:54
Yay! I've spent $1700 on tattoos so far, all black and grey, upper back is full and 2 wrap arounds on either arm (names of family, 1 marine memorial and a bible passage, luke 6 35:38 if you're interested)

Welu! What are are you getting?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 25 Nov 2014, 15:25
Getting the Vault Tec logo from the Fallout games.

(click to show/hide)

It's going to realistically shaded, like it's embedded in the skin and to look a bit like a grown over forgotten vault door. On my upper back, between the shoulder blades. I've wanted this for years and even gone in for consultations on it before but life got in the way from getting it.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 25 Nov 2014, 16:38
You're a nerd, yay!

Just the logo? I like the placement seeing as it's symmetrical and if anyone recognizes it you know you're about to have a lot in common.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 25 Nov 2014, 20:45
That sounds awesome, Welu!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 26 Nov 2014, 01:17
Had my first session on my chest piece on Monday. 5 hours for the first session, probably like another 12 hours before we finish it. I don't have any good photos but I'll post some up once I'm done. Also, tattooing your sternum fucking wrecks.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 26 Nov 2014, 01:20
So does most places! My least favorite was my spine.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 28 Nov 2014, 21:05
We definitely need to see pictures!

And I handled the tattoos on my arm, upper calves, and thighs pretty easily. The back of the calf and tops of the feet made me wanna murder stuff.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 30 Nov 2014, 06:06
I didn't get to book because the place was closed earlier than I thought .
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 30 Nov 2014, 14:48
Aw poo.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 30 Nov 2014, 17:08
Will see if I can make the appointment online or over the phone this week.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 01 Dec 2014, 02:35
I just want to say, that the mental image of neko sitting in a chair and going "Aw poo." is pretty damn hilarious to me. In a good way!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 03 Dec 2014, 08:20
There's generally a pouty face that goes along with that
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 22 Dec 2014, 21:52
It's finished! 15 hours and a shitload of codeine. It looks amazing and I'm so freaking happy.


(https://scontent-b-nrt.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10257745_10152570476236527_674769882651793005_n.jpg?oh=4cf44f34cce35e389bd2345839aff208&oe=55027003)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 23 Dec 2014, 00:22
Hell yes, that looks fantastic!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Dec 2014, 19:46
Holy shit, that's magnificent.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 31 Dec 2014, 11:28
So gorgeous.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 09 Jan 2015, 09:47
Is it common practice to do online messages or emails to hash out a tattoo idea? I've already messaged asking if they're okay doing that because the place I like is two hours away but just wondering if anyone has ever done this?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 09 Jan 2015, 09:50
I correspond with my artist almost exclusively via Facebook, and it seems to work just fine.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 09 Jan 2015, 10:02
I did over email, phone and in person. Each place is different, but if they actually use their email or facebook then it is much easier I think. The worst that will happen if you message them online is they respond by saying you should call them. Or they don't respond, but really that'd lead to you calling them anyway.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 09 Jan 2015, 10:03
They're very active on their Facebook page so I figure I'll definitely get a response of some kind at least.

Edit: They've replied asking what I'm thinking so that answers that. :)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 09 Jan 2015, 10:53
Fantastic then, it's certainly just good business sense for them to do that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: GarandMarine on 09 Jan 2015, 15:47
I've done electronic correspondence for sure, I mean it just makes sense to be able to email along all your design roughs. any inspirational art and notes, that way they're all written down.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 09 Jan 2015, 16:00
I had to just because I have a lot of writing on my back, gotta make sure they got all the right grammar and spelling and such
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Nikolai on 09 Jan 2015, 18:34
Getting my ribs finished tomorrow. I'll post pictures when it's done. Showed my artist a picture of someone's tattoo of The Kid from Bastion and mentioned that it was pretty close to what I wanted, and she got super excited and said she'd work up something for me to take a look at when I come in.

Turns out she got extra super excited and couldn't wait to show me:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10917585_1129078910453691_1258342819_n.jpg?oh=67af3f2d047506803d41b3ee74f6f564&oe=54B2DB56&__gda__=1421061191_dee00b750a9471bfa7276bef1dc30d69)

I know what I'm doing with (part of) my tax return...
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 11 Jan 2015, 07:42
Dang that looks cool as hell. Can't wait for a picture of the finished product.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 13 Jan 2015, 02:39
(http://i.imgur.com/s3uB8iu.jpg)

Got her all done in one session. Preeeeetty fuckin stoked.

Exhaust is red cause the compression coil's broke :3
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 13 Jan 2015, 10:46
Exhaust is red cause the compression coil's broke :3
That's good, I was worried that she was running without containment.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 13 Jan 2015, 12:05
Very nice!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Jan 2015, 14:56
Really cool tattoo.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 13 Jan 2015, 15:34
Thanks folks! I'm pretty dang excited about her. I'm worried about her healing properly though. I'm a belly sleeper, I have a lot of trouble sleeping if I'm on my back. I've heard you can take a clean towel and put it on your bed in the area of the tattoo, think that'd help?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 13 Jan 2015, 15:56
Thanks folks! I'm pretty dang excited about her. I'm worried about her healing properly though. I'm a belly sleeper, I have a lot of trouble sleeping if I'm on my back. I've heard you can take a clean towel and put it on your bed in the area of the tattoo, think that'd help?

Should be fine as long as you're wearing a clean shirt or have something clean under you. Even without something it almost certainly won't affect the way your tattoo heals. I have the upper half of my back tattooed and usually sleep on my back. I haven't had any issues with just wearing a shirt to bed for a couple days.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 13 Jan 2015, 18:30
I just kept mine bandaged for about three days, and after, did the whole "it rubs the lotion on its skin" thing after, and haven't had a problem, aside from gaining weight and having it stretch.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: explicit on 13 Jan 2015, 18:54
Honestly, the first google search for, "new tattoo care" is perfect. Any questions you have should definitely be answered in that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: SubaruStephen on 14 Jan 2015, 22:28
Got her all done in one session. Preeeeetty fuckin stoked.

Exhaust is red cause the compression coil's broke :3

Shiny!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Jan 2015, 10:56
Definitely don't keep it bandaged - your skin needs to breathe to heal at its fastest/best. Which is also why anything with petroleum jelly isn't great for healing tattoos. It cuts off oxygen to the area.

If you must sleep on your stomach, keep a clean towel or other cloth under you, and change it every day, until your tattoo is no longer goopy or weeping. And make sure to put a thin layer of lotion on it before you lay down, and when you get up. Cleaning it when you wake up would be good as well.
Title: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 15 Jan 2015, 22:54
I shower upon waking up every day when I've got new ink. Otherwise I generally skip a day or two because I have dry skin that really hates lotion but loves its own natural oils (go figure, right?). But with new ink, sanitation is the first priority over having ashy knuckles, knees, and elbows.

In any case, it is healing remarkably quickly. It stopped being gooey after day 2 and until it starts peeling it looks almost perfectly healed. Wild how much faster it is this time compared to last time.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 16 Jan 2015, 11:49
A good tattoo artist and a good healing regime can make a huge difference in healing times!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: ChaoSera on 16 Jan 2015, 11:57
If all goes according to plan, I'll be able to finally afford my tattoo around August...
...
Is it August yet?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 18 Jan 2015, 11:27
Booked in for March!!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 18 Jan 2015, 20:34

A good tattoo artist and a good healing regime can make a huge difference in healing times!
That's the thing. Same guy both times! He's had 2 years to gain valuable exp though.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 23 Jan 2015, 02:02
Complication: I'm beginning to think I'm mildly allergic to the red ink in the flames. It's the only part consistently itchy anymore now that the peeling is done, and the only part that feels as if it's somewhat puffy or inflamed. Any insights?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 23 Jan 2015, 02:11
I had the same thing happen!

Good news: If it's the same as what I had, it will eventually calm down and disappear. There will be days where it swells a bit and itches like crazy (usually hot and humid days, or when you're sweating a lot), but it will go away.

Bad news: It took two years before it completely disappeared for me, but it didn't itch all the time in those two years, just on and off. Since it swelled so many times and also because I have no willpower and scratched it a little more than I should have, in places the red ink has turned kind of uneven. Not much though, and it's only noticeable if I point it out.

If I remember correctly though, I think red ink might always heal more slowly? It could be that it's perfectly normal and it's just taking a little longer than the rest, fingers crossed for that.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 23 Jan 2015, 05:06
Oh jeez. Well, if the red ends up looking bad, I'll just have that part covered up, most likely with black to represent space. Fortunately, the flames are hardly the most important detail, and I could see that flowing into something really big and badass someday.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: lepetitfromage on 23 Jan 2015, 06:16
Yeah, my red ink puffed up every once in a while too, for quite some time. After it stopped itching it was actually kind of entertaining for me. Mine looks fine and it's all solid color with no shading or variations, so you should be in pretty good shape. Looks awesome, btw.  :-D
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Metope on 23 Jan 2015, 07:01
Yeah, I guess I should also mention that the red I have that turned weird are really thin lines, it doesn't take much for something like that to become a little uneven. I have one more solid block of red that is completely unchanged, even though I scratched it as much as the lines. With the amount of red you have, I think it'll be fine.

And yeah, sometimes the red (and the other colours with red in them: orange and brown) would puff up a bit and it would be really weird to touch since it was all risen, it kind of felt like blind text since most of those colours on my tattoo are either dots or lines. I used to say it was a visually impaired-friendly tattoo.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Patrick on 23 Jan 2015, 23:39
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/23/3b95b8e7c2615c45e340340eec785d89.jpg)

Thanks Käsechen, here's what she looks like now that she's all healed!

Kris that's hella funny about the visually impaired ink, what a great response.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: hedgie on 24 Jan 2015, 01:28
Now no power in the 'verse can stop you.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Jimmy the Squid on 25 Jan 2015, 08:40
From what I understand a lot of people have a poor reaction to red ink. I don't know what it is but obviously something in the ink may be a pretty common allergen or something. It usually calms down eventually though, like Kris said.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: BeoPuppy on 25 Jan 2015, 10:52
http://chemistry.about.com/b/2006/05/07/tattoos-red-ink-and-sensitivity-reactions.htm

http://www.ehow.com/about_6700392_allergic-reactions-red-tattoo-ink.html

http://www.aaaai.org/ask-the-expert/red-tattoo-ink.aspx
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 04 Feb 2015, 11:13
Okay, I know I have a tattoo booked but I think I know what I'm getting after it but I don't know where. Image in the spoiler for size.

(click to show/hide)

I actually have this on a tanktop but it keeps growing on me and I contacted the artist and they're cool with me getting it. Will talk it out with tattoo artists when I'm up getting my next one.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 04 Feb 2015, 11:36
I love that artist and that picture!!
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 04 Feb 2015, 11:57
When they announced they were closing their RedBubble store I bought seven shirts because I love their designs. >__> I love getting the, "Hey cool shirt, it's really cute, actually wait on closer inspection that's really gross..." reactions.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 15 Feb 2015, 19:16
My new tattoo <3

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10959295_10205975358084210_6499756017196389062_n.jpg?oh=14733fb7866daa124ee6f57fd2110a31&oe=555A9EA7&__gda__=1435602609_2a326d36f59d49944475001b1ecaa778)
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Post by: hedgie on 15 Feb 2015, 19:45
Wow.  That looks brilliant.
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Post by: Orkboy on 15 Feb 2015, 19:49
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang.
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 15 Feb 2015, 22:55
Awesome!
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Feb 2015, 07:22
Whoa holy shit that is sick!
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Post by: nekowafer on 16 Feb 2015, 12:12
:D I love it!!! It's the most color I've had in my tattoos so far.
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Post by: Welu on 16 Feb 2015, 13:09
That's badass!
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Post by: Lines on 16 Feb 2015, 15:14
Awesome!!!
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Post by: Lines on 28 Feb 2015, 17:53
My husband and one of our friends got a tattoo today and I went ahead and booked an appointment. So come April, I should have two little things behind my ears. Now I just need to figure out the specifics of what. Excite!
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Post by: nekowafer on 02 Mar 2015, 08:32
Hooray!!
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Post by: Thrillho on 02 Mar 2015, 09:13
My husband and one of our friends got a tattoo today and I went ahead and booked an appointment. So come April, I should have two little things behind my ears. Now I just need to figure out the specifics of what. Excite!

Can I suggest something?

(click to show/hide)

D-... co-... cockerels? Or dicks? FUCK
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 02 Mar 2015, 09:38
HOW ABOUT A BIG, GIANT COCK?

(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Thrillho on 02 Mar 2015, 09:42
I prefer black ones!
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Post by: explicit on 02 Mar 2015, 10:15
I'm good with any shape or color, it's the meaning behind the dick that's important.
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Post by: lepetitfromage on 02 Mar 2015, 10:47
Ok, but seriously....how adorable would it be to have a little egg on one side and a teensy little chick on the other?  :laugh:
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Post by: Thrillho on 02 Mar 2015, 11:53
But which one would you get done first? ;)
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Post by: Welu on 02 Mar 2015, 12:07
The forum is on form today for funnies.
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Post by: Welu on 07 Mar 2015, 15:14
YAAAAAAAYY!!

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/dfe5672a25b1876305d3f1c7a5053f10/tumblr_nkv72c9t9u1qjk0hmo1_400.jpg)
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Post by: Lines on 07 Mar 2015, 20:17
Yay!
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Post by: hedgie on 07 Mar 2015, 20:30
It's… it's… staring at me.  (looks great).
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Post by: nekowafer on 08 Mar 2015, 17:42
It looks so awesome, Welu!
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Post by: Welu on 09 Mar 2015, 04:05
Yay, thanks everyone! I love it. :)
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Post by: Welu on 12 Mar 2015, 09:37
Tattoo has reached the scabby, itchy stage. It's not too bad but sometimes I move my shoulders and can feel it tightening, mainly in the morning before I've put cream on it, and I'm paranoid the skin will crack or split even though that's really unlikely. At least it's in a place I can't easily scratch.
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Post by: nekowafer on 13 Mar 2015, 20:30
Yeah that's the worst for me. Trying not to pick.
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Post by: The Seldom Killer on 18 Mar 2015, 06:34
A bit of an interesting development.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/women-with-vagina-piercings-to-be-classed-as-suffering-from-fgm-10113202.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/women-with-vagina-piercings-to-be-classed-as-suffering-from-fgm-10113202.html)

Now to be absolutely clear, The Evening Standard is an arm of the Daily Mail so their tendancy to sensationalise everything needs to be taken into account. However, this sort of story doesn't come out of nowhere. This sort of story will now put women at risk because it increases any reluctance to present with related medical issues.
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Post by: nekowafer on 18 Mar 2015, 13:41
I can't even wrap my head around that stupidity.
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Post by: The Seldom Killer on 18 Mar 2015, 14:01
Ahh, we've really circled ourselves into the stupid hole on that one.

We knew that FGM was happening in the UK or to British Citizens/Residents while overseas and pushed through legislation criminalising it. We then got ourselves of in the embarrassing position of clocking up exactly no prosecutions in the decade since the law kicked in despite an estimated 74,000 instances in that decade. Criticisms all round, especially levelled at the Health sector who would likely be the first agency to be in a position to report on breaches of the law. Looks like they've overreacted and turned into a bunch of asshats. It'll be a gloriously shitty day when this all blows up in our stupid faces.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 17 Apr 2015, 19:36
Tattoo appointment is tomorrow!
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Post by: explicit on 17 Apr 2015, 20:49
omigerd! I get excited about tattoos; idk why. WE GET TO SEE, RIGHT?
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Post by: Welu on 18 Apr 2015, 00:21
Yayyyy!!
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Post by: Lines on 18 Apr 2015, 07:05
omigerd! I get excited about tattoos; idk why. WE GET TO SEE, RIGHT?

Of course!
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Post by: Lines on 18 Apr 2015, 11:31
Alright, here's the first one:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/andthentherewaslindsey/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150418_142216112_HDR_zpsxblf3qzd.jpg)

The other side has a Hogwarts letter, but it's oozing a bit, so I'll wait to show that one.

I love them!
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Post by: Welu on 18 Apr 2015, 12:03
Ah! Cute owl!
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Post by: Metope on 18 Apr 2015, 14:58
Ahhhhhdorable! I love it!
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Post by: Lines on 18 Apr 2015, 17:13
And here's the letter.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b198/andthentherewaslindsey/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150418_175000874_zpseaqltw9m.jpg)
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 18 Apr 2015, 22:38
The wax seal looks real, almost 3D, stands out from the rest of the tattoo (although, once the gel it's covered with dries off it'll fit in)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Lines on 19 Apr 2015, 07:48
I was actually surprised with how much detail he managed to do with such a small thing. I'd just asked for a red blob, expecting something more flat. I like what he did.

And thanks for the compliments guys!
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Post by: TRVA123 on 25 May 2015, 12:34
Tattoo!

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11217528_10205380301404499_4321489760806584803_n.jpg?oh=856a2c581fdfec72f45a3ad8edf85da4&oe=55C22590)
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Post by: Welu on 25 May 2015, 18:06
Pretty! I like the colours.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: 94ssd on 27 May 2015, 17:07
I've been considering getting a tattoo but I know I'd want one that is hideable, (specifically have thought about getting a Cedar of Lebanon on my upper back) but the question I keep coming back to is then why do it?
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Post by: Welu on 27 May 2015, 17:20
I have a tattoo on the top of my back that is almost always hidden and I can't see it without a mirror. I still love knowing it's there and the placement is part of that. What it was and its size suited that choice. You should get a tattoo for you and not others, that's more than enough reason to get it the way you want it.
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Post by: TRVA123 on 27 May 2015, 17:39
Honestly, anywhere on the back is pretty easily hidden. My (fresh) tattoo is the brightest that it will ever be, and it doesn't show through a white button down.
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Post by: Welu on 10 Sep 2015, 10:35
I got Jessie!!

(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/12004735_854251664623970_5634929284039637873_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=5cdfc7ee6eb72e489f9559bde41cfa07&oe=567757B7&__gda__=1453410013_397aafe139c1ff4d18ec012b7135c363)
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Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Sep 2015, 18:31
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
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Post by: 94ssd on 11 Sep 2015, 06:38
I think I might do it but I have to wait until my ulcer heals so that my weight will be stable until it heals.

Speaking of, the idea of a Crohns related tattoo like the purple ribbon doesn't interest me. I have a friend who got hers a year after her diagnosis.
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Post by: Lines on 12 Sep 2015, 20:30
Awesome!
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Post by: ChaoSera on 13 Sep 2015, 02:16
Alright, end of the month I'll get some overtime paid off and depending on how many other things I might need to pay with that, there might be enough money left over to get my first tattoo. This is exciting!
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Post by: Welu on 08 Oct 2015, 14:11
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/7f525ca5fd09938d246a2455fe473ce8/tumblr_nvx6ittF4K1qjk0hmo1_1280.png)

Have a nice day!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Oct 2015, 19:57
Equal parts Hannibal Lecter and the Comedian?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 08 Oct 2015, 20:21
Cover image of Mick Foley's bio, smiley in a Mankind mask. Placement is so I can give thumbs ups with it.

(http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1438307349l/218496.jpg)
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Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Oct 2015, 20:41
Ahhh, nice.
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Post by: The Seldom Killer on 20 Oct 2015, 07:39
I've just seen this and think I might be the closest I've ever been to getting a tattoo.

(http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/one-line-tattoo-mo-ganji-54.jpg)
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Post by: 94ssd on 03 Mar 2016, 18:23
Going to a tattoo parlor (the only good one in town, from all I've heard) tomorrow to see if I can just get a price quote on the Cedar of Lebanon tattoo I've wanted for years. It might have to wait til April but I definitely want it, and I'm thinking upper arm.
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Post by: Le Lily Vert on 04 Mar 2016, 02:16
I've just seen this and think I might be the closest I've ever been to getting a tattoo.

Tempted to fill it in?
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Post by: Lines on 02 May 2016, 15:31
I got started on a new tattoo yesterday!

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/13151914_10103133106047375_6458076598752604818_n.jpg?oh=7c63752fee1aca2dd9b50349babd2a62&oe=57B06018)

I'll be going back in a couple of weeks to get the rest filled in. I'm really loving the colors my tattoo artist is using - dusty purples and blues as well as black. (Which aren't showing up that great because of shine and lighting.) Can't wait to get it finished!
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Post by: sitnspin on 02 May 2016, 15:35
Looks great, love it.
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Post by: Welu on 02 May 2016, 15:48
Seconded!
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Post by: Method of Madness on 02 May 2016, 16:03
Nice!
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Post by: Orkboy on 26 May 2016, 19:30
I'm getting a tattoo in a week.  Gonna get Yggdrasil on my forearm.

(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Orkboy on 04 Jun 2016, 00:20
The detail came through much more clearly than I expected, but the angle is weird enough that taking a picture is difficult, and the curve of my forearm makes it look like it isn't round. 

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/rbloodgood/0604160214-00%202.jpg)
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Post by: sitnspin on 04 Jun 2016, 16:30
Well done.
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Post by: Welu on 05 Jun 2016, 03:58
Looks great!
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Post by: Orkboy on 05 Jun 2016, 20:41
Thanks.  I think I have a tattoo guy now.  I'm already thinking about other designs.  :-)


Only problem: it feels exactly like a sunburn.   :psyduck:
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Post by: sitnspin on 05 Jun 2016, 21:15
That will pass. Just keep up with your aftercare and it should heal just fine pretty quickly.
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Post by: 94ssd on 19 Jul 2016, 20:55
As of yesterday I now have a Cedar of Lebanon on my left bicep. I've wanted it for going on 3 years. I had made the appointment for Friday the 9th, but storms came through and knocked out power to the tattoo company. I rescheduled for the following Monday (the 11th) - my last day before moving an hour away for a new job. But they still didn't have power because of the storm. I'd already put down the deposit there, so I used my day off yesterday to drive back and get it.

The artist was cool. We emailed back and forth a couple times about finding the right amount of detail so that it looks good as line work but could still be colored in the future. The session itself was about an hour. He also talked about how he purposely uses an older type of tattoo gun as opposed to the newer type they have in the shop (don't remember the names for those) because he likes putting the time and effort into maintaining it. Wasn't as painful as I thought, more like a really bad itching sensation while it was happening than anything else. It does still does hurt a bit now though. Overall cost with tip came out to $136.

One of my friends got a much smaller and quicker tattoo (she was only in there for about 10 minutes) at the same time, she already has several, it was just some writing. Another friend actually sat in the room with me (there's only really room for one, plus I've heard most artists keep a one-observer rule), she wants to get a tattoo but is nervous about it.

Doing my best to keep up with the aftercare instructions. I was told to wash it with unscented soap and put lotion on it twice a day, until the skin starts peeling in a couple days - after that stop using soap and use lotion at least 4 times a day for about 2 weeks. And always only touch it with clean hands and by padding the soap or lotion on gently.

One problem I didn't anticipate and wasn't warned about - I woke up this morning with an ink stain on my sheet that I'm guessing won't be coming out. I hadn't fallen asleep on that arm so as not to hurt it but I must have rolled over. Hopefully sleeping on it won't hurt anything while it heals since I apparently can't help it, it still looks fine.
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Post by: sitnspin on 20 Jul 2016, 10:46
Sleeping on it shouldn't hurt it too much. I roll in my sleep, too, and I have tats pretty much all over and have never had a problem. Just make sure your sheets are clean. Sheets tend to collect a lot gross stuff that could cause some irritation to the tattooed area.  Congrats on finally getting the ink you wanted.
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Post by: Welu on 20 Jul 2016, 13:50
On my large leg tattoo, for the first two or three nights, I covered it in cling film on when going to bed until it wasn't as gooey and sticky. After that, a decent layer of my aftercare cream of choice alone was enough to stop anything sticking too much. I woke up with an ink stain on the sheet as well the first night because the film unwrapped a little and it washed out. Although my tattoo was so dry and sticky that I was terrified while cleaning off the little bits of fluff and threads from the skin. Just took it very slow and it's healed well now. After that first night I put a clean towel down for another layer between my skin and the sheet.

You'll find an aftercare routine that works for you. I find a mix of the advice I've heard from a couple artists (that was mostly similar other than specific product names) and experimentation led me to the best for me. The only definite is don't pick or scratch, as tempting as it can be when it gets to the scabby and peely stage.

Yay for new ink!
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Post by: 94ssd on 22 Jul 2016, 21:43
So I've just gotten to the scabbing/peeling phase of healing. And by just got to I mean like 30 minutes ago it just starting feeling a bit itchy (I haven't scratched it, obviously). I've been using Goldbond lotion because that's just sort of what I've got in my apartment, but do I need a different type of/stronger product? The artist recommend a specific brand but I'll be damned if I can remember what it was.
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Post by: Lines on 23 Jul 2016, 04:42
As long as it's unscented, you should be OK. My first tattoos I used Eucerin and for my most recent an Aveeno unscented baby lotion. I liked the latter better, as the former doesn't dry very fast and felt greasy. And if touching it doesn't hurt, slapping it can help the itchiness go away. Just, you know, doing hit it too hard, it could hurt.
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Post by: MrBlu on 05 Sep 2016, 20:32
(http://i.imgur.com/YbK1wvc.jpg)

Hello strangers. I shouldn't do the whole drop in every couple of years thing, I'm sorry. But here's my first ink job.

It's a chef thing.
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Post by: Welu on 11 Apr 2017, 12:51
The Florida sun must have got to my tattoos a bit. Bit dry and irritated, especially the one on my arm/wrist. It tends to be more sensitive since its placement means there's a lot of pulling and movement. It's healed but there's been some itchy bumps since last week.
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Post by: Thrillho on 12 Apr 2017, 00:53
Ooh, forgot this thread existed.

I need to dig out my photo of my tattoo, because I've nowhere easy to host since I got rid of Facebook.

I have about half a dozen more planned. I love the sensation, and I feel more complete as a person having had the first one. I feel like myself. Planning another one in the next couple of months for my right arm.

I also got the top of my ear pierced during a down moment because I was fucking miserable, wanted the adrenaline of getting a tattoo done with way less regret. I'm going to get my lip pierced at some point soon too.

I feel like I'm... becoming.
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Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Apr 2017, 07:56
Becoming what?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thrillho on 12 Apr 2017, 09:21
Myself, physically. For the first time in my life.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: sitnspin on 12 Apr 2017, 13:01
Tattoos are great therapy. Good luck on your becoming.
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Post by: Welu on 22 Jul 2017, 02:29
Lovely!
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Post by: Welu on 23 Aug 2018, 14:56
Next tattoo appointment booked!
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Post by: nekowafer on 24 Aug 2018, 12:29
Yay! What's on the menu?
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 24 Aug 2018, 13:55
Gonna get a bunch of wrestler logos on my arm. Some I designed, some are existing ones.

(click to show/hide)

The two Hardys ones are two references for one image.

The appointment isn't till November but I feel so excited finally having a new one booked. Can't believe it's been almost three years since my last tattoo.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: nekowafer on 24 Aug 2018, 13:57
Ooh those are gonna look awesome! I'm so jealous. I haven't gotten a new tattoo in far too long and definitely can't afford one anytime soon!
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Post by: Welu on 08 Nov 2018, 05:16
In progress tattoo. Getting three of the designs from the earlier post today.

(https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/45568531_260581244614359_7618590908665036800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fman2-1.fna&oh=cb523a264ace9db3947e1160a8f49b78&oe=5C770980)

Edit: Update! It's done!

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-0/p280x280/45628096_2310008829027374_3708707335292583936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=745ea745bf5e4dba9c64ed25219f4d1a&oe=5C3D6DDD)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-0/p280x280/45556307_1650599971707590_3938936308415594496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=4e4d8b1d20bfb491a22e86ea28721715&oe=5C402D46)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-0/p280x280/45668766_509759152841179_3913807279400419328_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=f403141d5a5705484521a42eccfdd471&oe=5C6C201A)
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Nov 2018, 15:18
Mate, those are amazing. I definitely need to get a wrestling related tattoo somewhere.
Title: Re: Tattoos and other body mods
Post by: Welu on 09 Nov 2018, 15:26
Thank you! I'm really delighted with how it turned out.

Get a wrestling tattoo, then post photos!