Conscious of culture and history as we are, we yearn for a touch of class. But when women online who’re fed up with online harassment and nice guy entitlement see an eager young man trying his best to strike a smooth pose under that infernal hat—pinching the brim, faux-brooding finger to chin and crooked smirk—we just see chasing ass. It’s become too intentional, too choreographed, too staged. It seems to hide something. It suggests inner conflict.
Even if you disagree with the hypothesis linking the forever-alone fedora and the friend-zoned nice guy, you can at least see why it explains the high volume of mockery aimed at the hat—and why some defend it in militant tones usually reserved for explaining the right to make rape jokes.
I've never even heard of these fedora connotations.
Is there a list somewhere that I can refer to each morning so I can ensure my current choice of head wear is appropriate? :roll:
oh wow 10k followers thank you all big kiss
About what? I'm just wondering what's eye-rolling worthy, can someone explain? I mean I think I'm making sense trying to explain my opinions, but please let me know if I'm being a jerk here. I'm not trying to be.
Would they be less awful if they didn't wear fedoras? I would say no.
Don't you ever get the urge to put something on your head and wear it like a hat because it'd look funny?
There are people who wear belts and do heroin, therefore people with belts are heroin users just looking to chase their next fix.
I am the prettiest princess
There's some controversial articles of clothing that people think say a lot about the person who wears them, crocs, uggs, black thick framed glasses. All they can say at for almost guarantee is the person wearing them likes them. I'm not saying people in this thread are thinking [clothing item] = stupid/bad person but it is hard for it to not some across that way if you don't take in the whole post. I agree with Meotope it is possibly to make an educated guess about someone's likes or personality on their clothing, and as long as you're aware you're guessing and prepared to have your assumption proven wrong by giving the person a chance, I'm cool with you thinking my hat is silly.
I am the prettiest princess
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AlsoMastermindMasterpiece, you really are the prettiest princess.
Masterpiece is drrrrreamy.
Oh wait are you referencing the comic.How is this a bad thing?
I'm not in the business of wasting time trying to figure out if someone wearing a fedora is truly a Fedora or just a dumbass with no sense of fashion. Thus it is a trivial matter to lump the latter group into the former. I am also not in the business of being fair with judgements, which is probably why I don't care for many of the people on this forum.
Honestly I regret having posted that picture with the hats because it sparked this weird tangential discussion.
Honestly I regret having posted that picture with the hats because it sparked this weird tangential discussion.
I wear hats out of necessity. Sunburned scalps do not allow one to sleep well against a pillow.
stereotypes exist for a reason,
stereotypes exist for a reason,
Indeed; as any form of generalisation, they make it easier than having to deal with 8 billion people individually at all times. At the same time, it is necessary to take care that individuals are not lost in the generalisation or stereotype - that's what leads to all the various bad "-isms"; while I wouldn't compare Fedora-ism with, say, sexism in harmfulness - it is a product of a similar thought process.
I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again. And as a side note, I find it hilarious that most of this forum boasts itself with being accepting towards people just to find a thread where people are judged upon their fashion.
I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again. And as a side note, I find it hilarious that most of this forum boasts itself with being accepting towards people just to find a thread where people are judged upon their fashion.
I also find it hilarious that a forum that boasts about being open minded and accepting will just brush off an actual problematic issue that has exited for a while because they 'have never heard it before', but that's just me. Also what Paul said about stereotypes/generalisation is what I was trying to say as well, I just couldn't find a good way to say it.
I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again.
I also find it hilarious that a forum that boasts about being open minded and accepting will just brush off an actual problematic issue that has exited for a while because they 'have never heard it before', but that's just me.
The Australian military slouch hat is truly iconic, dating back to the Victorian Mounted Rifles raised in 1880's, and later to fight in the Boer War, even before our nation was founded. The basic hat is very practical, but the turned-up brim is arguably a little affected unless you regularly carry a rifle in the "slope arms" position (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2681/4480113476_b9ae5cacde.jpg).
"You don't like fedoras? What is wrong with you?"I own an Indy hat, albeit in a different colour! Copyrighted to Lucas Arts, naturally ...
(http://www.indygear.com/images/gear/fedora/bts/ToD-fed.jpg)
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Metope I think people are brushing your "issue" off because it's a ridiculous stereotype in the extreme at the very best.The article Metope linked previously does a decent job of addressing how the increased prominence of girls in geek culture has caused the bad attitudes associated with "Men's Rights Activists" to flare up, to the point that they show up in force every time the topic of feminism is brought up. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrazpEFb9w) has a lot of relevant information about it as well. The "issue" is actually what's at the root of the widespread mistreatment of women (and every other non-straight white male minority) in online communities and not something that tumblr just made up for the lulz.
Metope I think people are brushing your "issue" off because it's a ridiculous stereotype in the extreme at the very best.The article Metope linked previously does a decent job of addressing how the increased prominence of girls in geek culture has caused the bad attitudes associated with "Men's Rights Activists" to flare up, to the point that they show up in force every time the topic of feminism is brought up. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrazpEFb9w) has a lot of relevant information about it as well. The "issue" is actually what's at the root of the widespread mistreatment of women (and every other non-straight white male minority) in online communities and not something that tumblr just made up for the lulz.
The fedora is just an innocent victim of the fashion sense of one demographic's unfortunate cultural outlook.
And that's not the issue we're talking about here. That IS an issue and a very valid one. The issue at hand is that "oh if you wear a fedora you hate wimminz" is about the most ridiuclous thing I've ever heard, and I goddamn watch CSPAN.I'm pretty sure that was issue that Metope was getting at when she was talking about "an actual problematic issue that has exi(s)ted for a while", but I'll let her speak for herself if she chooses to elaborate on that.
We're not trying to ban people from wearing fedoras (at least I'm not), just explain why some people don't like them. Like that quote in my first post about this says, it's okay to not agree with and ignore the connotations, but at least they explain why some people react the way they do.
(Anecdotal evidence: I dareclaim none of the Germans on this forum have ever heard of the connection, which probably means noone they know has mentioned it).Sorry to disappoint you there, but I have had heard of that long before this thread was made. It comes with browsing 4chan (and /b/ in particular) regularly.
Personally I like wearing the most ridiculous hats I can find because sometimes it's fun to wear weird atrocities on your head! Especially those weird ass fascinator things you see in department stores and during Royal Weddings.
If any of you have seen that Pic of me, this is the type of hat I wear on a regular basis.A very practical hat. For non-Australians, the "Top End" is far northern tropical Australia where it is very hot and very wet, often at the same time.
http://www.drizabone.com.au/store/product/topender-hat-brown-s/
sometimes it's fun to wear weird atrocities on your head! Especially those weird ass fascinator things you see in department stores and during Royal Weddings.
The hats I want to wear
(http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/e4/4/AAAAAszxntIAAAAAAORGuw.jpg?v=1206555040000)
queen of America....Scarlett Johansson?
queen of America....Scarlett Johansson?
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/2570_537229371225_11850_n.jpg)All hail Queen Cheese!
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Kugai, I was about to ask if that was Soviet Judge Dredd and then I quoted you and yes, yes it is.
Yep Valdis has it right. This one: http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_572_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_LEATHER_Visor_Hat_Peaked_Cap_KGB_WW2.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_572_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_LEATHER_Visor_Hat_Peaked_Cap_KGB_WW2.html)
These are also in contention:
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_571_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_Peaked_Visor_Hat_Cap_WW2_WW1.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_571_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_Peaked_Visor_Hat_Cap_WW2_WW1.html)
So far this Soviet Naval Officer's cap is winning.
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_560_Soviet_Army_MILITARY_NAVY_OFFICER_Uniform_Visor_Hat_Cap.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_560_Soviet_Army_MILITARY_NAVY_OFFICER_Uniform_Visor_Hat_Cap.html)
I have been thinking about a Naval officer's Ushanka as well, but that would be for practical purposes, not fucking around at wargaming cons.
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_203_Soviet_Army_Uniform_NATURAL_FUR_Hat_Ushanka_LEATHER_TOP.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_203_Soviet_Army_Uniform_NATURAL_FUR_Hat_Ushanka_LEATHER_TOP.html)
That clip contains some pretty bad ass hats.
bad ass hatsTotally read that as bad asshats.
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when not being wound up hereI agree that we shouldn't hate on someone who isn't here to defend himself, but I don't agree on blaming his actions on the rest of the forum for "winding him up". Anyway, HATS.