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Fun Stuff => CHATTER => Topic started by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 05:30

Title: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 05:30
Yeah fedoras are okay and next thing you're gonna tell me is that the friendzone exists, right? Get the fuck out of here with that fedoras are awesome shit. What the fuck is that? Who the fuck do you think you are, you don't look like a fucking gentleman from the 50s you look like a goddamn greasy fuckoff who doesn't know the proper application of hats. Don't wear a goddamn ballcap with a suit don't wear a fucking fedora with a tshirt is this shit really that fucking hard to comprehend. Fuck. No wonder the stragglers from the old guard are all gonna leave witb garbage like this floating around.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LTK on 05 Oct 2013, 05:35
Jeez Jace, did a fedora kill your parents or something?
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2013, 05:37
Shhh, he's still hurt about it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 06:14
To be fair, fedoras have a lot of loaded connotations in internet/geek/whatever culture, this (http://boingboing.net/2012/10/02/why-the-fedora-grosses-out-gee.html) is a good read on the subject.

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Conscious of culture and history as we are, we yearn for a touch of class. But when women online who’re fed up with online harassment and nice guy entitlement see an eager young man trying his best to strike a smooth pose under that infernal hat—pinching the brim, faux-brooding finger to chin and crooked smirk—we just see chasing ass. It’s become too intentional, too choreographed, too staged. It seems to hide something. It suggests inner conflict.

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Even if you disagree with the hypothesis linking the forever-alone fedora and the friend-zoned nice guy, you can at least see why it explains the high volume of mockery aimed at the hat—and why some defend it in militant tones usually reserved for explaining the right to make rape jokes.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 07:28
Kris gets it. You dress like that you're allying yourself alongside r/MensRights. I don't wanna get banned from these forums because they're a great place to go when I want to feel good about myself.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2013, 07:36
Not necessarily, just because they use the hat doesn't mean they own it. Sometimes a hat is just a hat. If it's the hat and other aspects as well, sure, but it's unfair to judge someone based on one article of clothing they happen to think looks cool.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Oct 2013, 07:37
I've never even heard of these fedora connotations.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 07:42
I'm not in the business of wasting time trying to figure out if someone wearing a fedora is truly a Fedora or just a dumbass with no sense of fashion. Thus it is a trivial matter to lump the latter group into the former. I am also not in the business of being fair with judgements, which is probably why I don't care for many of the people on this forum.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Oct 2013, 07:45
I've never even heard of these fedora connotations.

Obviously they developed in a little pressure-cooker of fashion and never really leaked out to the general public. 

I had, however, noticed that they'd fallen out somewhat among the group of people with whom they were most associated (no, not the 90+ crowd...)  I think it happened around the time Wal-Mart started carrying the really cheap ones.  That usually kills any fashion trend. 
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 07:47
Yeah, those connotations are pretty normal, I've encountered it in a lot of places. I mean, this example is kind of ridiculous and out there, but say someone wears a tall, white pointy hat, you're still gonna think of certain associations even if they actually only wear it because they think it's a good look and they've never even heard of the KKK. A hat is not always just a hat.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Oct 2013, 07:48
OK, maybe it's generational. 


I'l ask my daughters.   :-P
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2013, 07:54
I never said always, Metope. But in this case you should give someone the benefit of the doubt unless they give you a reason not to. The hat alone should not be enough.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 07:57
I believe everyone here who says they've never heard of the connotations and think fedoras are cool because of the way they look, but the fact that the friendzone/nice guy/forever alone thing paired with fedoras is so widespread there are several websites and blogs dedicated to mocking fedoras and the people who wear them, make the connotations real. You can wear a fedora all you want, and personally you know you're not one of those Nice Guys (none of the people on this forum seems to be like that at all), but if someone has a negative reaction to your head wear of choice at least you know why.

 
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

I give people the benefit of the doubt more often than not, but it's impossible to be completely neutral regarding anything. To me, fedoras really do represent those things I posted. Plus, purely stylistically speaking, the ball cap + formal wear/fedora + t-shirt thing Jace said is pretty good. I kind of like to keep casual and formal clothes separate.

Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Oct 2013, 08:06
Fedoras shouldn't be worn any way, superior hats like the Akubra exist.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2013, 08:18
I'm not backing fedoras particularly, but I disagree with the casual/formal divide. Also, how is websites mocking people proof of anything? :psyduck:
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 08:23
Oh yeah, and that's fine. I'm pretty sure the clothes I wear are not to everyone's taste either, a lot of people would probably call me a hipster jerk, but whatever, everyone likes different things. If I wore something that had negative connotations for some people, I'm aware I could be judged thereafter though, even if I knew those connotations didn't really apply to me as a person.

Sorry, didn't see the edit. Several websites dedicated to "fedora-shaming" shows that a lot of people are aware of those connotations, therefore making the connotations a real thing. At least that's how I see it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 05 Oct 2013, 08:29
So....I really like hats. And I look pretty good in them. Fedoras included. I don't care how "90s" they are.



Is there a list somewhere that I can refer to each morning so I can ensure my current choice of head wear is appropriate?  :roll:
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Oct 2013, 08:30
Sorry I just rolled my eyes so hard they fell out of my head.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 08:31
About what? I'm just wondering what's eye-rolling worthy, can someone explain? I mean I think I'm making sense trying to explain my opinions, but please let me know if I'm being a jerk here. I'm not trying to be.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Aimless on 05 Oct 2013, 08:31
Is there a list somewhere that I can refer to each morning so I can ensure my current choice of head wear is appropriate?  :roll:

If it's good enough for Indy and for Pratchett it's good enough to be worn by you as a sign of your respect for those men. I suspect that 99.99% of the people on this planet and 99.98% of the people on the internet have no awareness of the fedora shaming movement.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 08:33
You may be right, but the internet is a massive place, and it's really easy for one person to encounter something on a regular basis while other people never even come across it once. Where I (and Jace) come from, this is pretty well known and has been for a long time.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Welu on 05 Oct 2013, 08:38
I've got a small collection of fedoras and trilbies. I've been gathering them since I was a teenager, to wear for dressed up nights, before the connatations were really a thing. Although I don't know how people feel about lady folk wearing the hats.
I think the connotations are currently only known by people who frequent the internet, and spaces that deal with gender issues in particular. They definitely haven't spread into my local meat life.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 08:38
from the first page of google results for 'fedoras'  (http://fedorasofokc.tumblr.com)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 08:40
Third post in:
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/9766fcc4051e7d451950d02c6ca2f0f4/tumblr_mtcsad2wBt1rc7ih8o1_500.jpg)

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oh wow 10k followers thank you all big kiss
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2013, 08:41
Would they be less awful if they didn't wear fedoras? I would say no.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Oct 2013, 08:42
About what? I'm just wondering what's eye-rolling worthy, can someone explain? I mean I think I'm making sense trying to explain my opinions, but please let me know if I'm being a jerk here. I'm not trying to be.

Nothing to do with you, I can assure you.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 08:44
Would they be less awful if they didn't wear fedoras? I would say no.

Oh no, they wouldn't. It's just the fact that a lot of these people decide to wear a fedora on top of their terrible opinions, you can't deny it creates associations.

Warning - ...

Thanks Gareth!
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 05 Oct 2013, 08:45
Oh no, Metope my comment wasn't directed at you at all- I just think the whole thing has been taken a little too far. Way to go, Internet.

I know that not all head gear is appropriate, but some of it is a little more obvious (see pointy white hats and certain colored bandanas). I've personally never come across the Fedora Debacle before and I went to a Fashion School. I'm kind on the same side of this as Method- sometimes a hat is just a hat.

Judging people based on one particular fashion choice seems petty, imo. I mean....is everyone who wears a button down shirt a corporate whore? Is everyone who owns a pair of Uggs a brain dead idiot? They are if you listen to the Internet.

also from the first page of google results for 'fedoras' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora)
(That's generally my knowledge of them as well)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 05 Oct 2013, 08:49
Also, is it possible that these guys are just "trying to be cool" and they think fedoras are cool hats?
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 08:53
Oh yeah, some of them are definitely trying to be cool, and this thread has also proved a lot of people aren't aware of the connotations at all, so it's not like everyone who wears a fedora is awful. However I do make assumptions about people based on what they wear and how they present themselves* every day though, and I am sure people do the same with me. If I see a person who is all dressed in black with crazy coloured dyed hair and lots of tattoos, I am going to assume their favourite musician is not Justin Bieber. Everyone signals a little bit about themselves by how they appear, consciously or not.

(*I don't overly judge people though, just wanted to make that clear.)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Oct 2013, 09:02
There are people who wear belts and do heroin, therefore people with belts are heroin users just looking to chase their next fix.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Oct 2013, 09:05
Quote from: Raven
Don't you ever get the urge to put something on your head and wear it like a hat because it'd look funny?

Looking funny can break up an average bad mood, though of course not a clinical depressive episode.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 09:11
Who the fuck is Raven?

Oh wait are you referencing the comic. Jeez is that where we've ended up. Fuck.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 09:14
Also the amount of defense for fedoras here is frankly disgusting. I'd be ashamed of you people, but you're probably not aware of what shame is.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 05 Oct 2013, 09:23
I think it's less about defending fedoras and more about defending Good People who wear them. Personally, I think Masterpiece and Welu are pretty fucking cool.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 09:26
There are people who wear belts and do heroin, therefore people with belts are heroin users just looking to chase their next fix.

Wait, you're saying belts doesn't equal heroin user? That explains a lot, now I understand why that guy looked at me so weirdly when I asked him who is dealer was!

Edit: lepetitfromage, they are cool people, but now at least they are aware the connotations exist, and why Jace got on that fedora rant in the first place. We're not trying to ban people from wearing fedoras (at least I'm not), just explain why some people don't like them. Like that quote in my first post about this says, it's okay to not agree with and ignore the connotations, but at least they explain why some people react the way they do.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Oct 2013, 09:36
I applaud Masterpiece and friend for wearing funny headgear.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 09:37
Oh yes, I think he needs to wear that tiara every day. I'm kind of jealous.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2013, 09:38
wait lemme find my other tiara picture
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 05 Oct 2013, 09:43
Metope, that all definitely makes sense. Thanks for clarifying :-)


I know I make some assumptions about people based on appearances- after all, I do try to project a little bit of my personality into my choices as well. I think I was just a little taken aback about how....passionate Jace was about the whole thing.




And Masterpiece.....please do find that other photo :-P
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Oct 2013, 09:46
I wore one of my daughter's tiara's once.  Kept slipping off...

Bald heads and tiaras don't mix.   :-P
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 05 Oct 2013, 09:49
All I have to say to that is "Ouch!". They are kind of bitey.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Welu on 05 Oct 2013, 09:50
People think I'm cool? Yay!! Thanks.  :-D

I've been aware of the connotations for a while and it won't stop me from wearing them. Like I said though, I may not deal with any negativity personally because the hate seems to be mainly aimed at men.

There's some controversial articles of clothing that people think say a lot about the person who wears them, crocs, uggs, black thick framed glasses. All they can say at for almost guarantee is the person wearing them likes them. I'm not saying people in this thread are thinking [clothing item] = stupid/bad person but it is hard for it to not some across that way if you don't take in the whole post. I agree with Meotope it is possibly to make an educated guess about someone's likes or personality on their clothing, and as long as you're aware you're guessing and prepared to have your assumption proven wrong by giving the person a chance, I'm cool with you thinking my hat is silly.

Although Jace seems he's just trying to be angry and piss people off and that's nothing new.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 05 Oct 2013, 09:54
Its so easy to do so I don't even try anymore. But seriously fedoras with tshirts are like blazers with cargo shorts. You think you look cool but you just look bad.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2013, 09:57
I am the prettiest princess

(http://i.imgur.com/w2EeAs6.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Valdís on 05 Oct 2013, 10:02
I am the prettiest princess

That is factually accurate.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 10:07
There's some controversial articles of clothing that people think say a lot about the person who wears them, crocs, uggs, black thick framed glasses. All they can say at for almost guarantee is the person wearing them likes them. I'm not saying people in this thread are thinking [clothing item] = stupid/bad person but it is hard for it to not some across that way if you don't take in the whole post. I agree with Meotope it is possibly to make an educated guess about someone's likes or personality on their clothing, and as long as you're aware you're guessing and prepared to have your assumption proven wrong by giving the person a chance, I'm cool with you thinking my hat is silly.

Yep, that's pretty much it. I've been proven wrong a bunch of times and I think that's great, it would be pretty boring if dress codes were so standard we knew everything about everyone by one glance. At the same time, stereotypes exist for a reason, and a lot of it is also probably on purpose. Like that time a guy was talking to me, saw the way I presented myself, learned I went to art school and a little bit of what kind of music I listened to and he just blurted out 'you don't eat meat, do you?', and no, I was in fact a vegetarian at the time, it was really easy for him to make that assumption about me. I wasn't offended though, I wanted people to know those things about me.

Also Mastermind, you really are the prettiest princess.

Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2013, 10:09
I am the prettiest princess

That is factually accurate.

(click to show/hide)

<3

Also Mastermind Masterpiece, you really are the prettiest princess.

<3

Masterpiece is drrrrreamy.

<3
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 05 Oct 2013, 10:15
... why did I write Mastermind, brainfart. I've had too much coffee and I'm shaking and I can't really focus, that's probably why.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2013, 10:48
Oh wait are you referencing the comic.
How is this a bad thing?
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: ChaoSera on 05 Oct 2013, 13:40
Almost every time I read something Jace wrote it makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Loki on 05 Oct 2013, 13:43
What the fuck.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: snalin on 05 Oct 2013, 14:11
I'm not in the business of wasting time trying to figure out if someone wearing a fedora is truly a Fedora or just a dumbass with no sense of fashion. Thus it is a trivial matter to lump the latter group into the former. I am also not in the business of being fair with judgements, which is probably why I don't care for many of the people on this forum.

It's cool, bro, we don't care for you either!


I hadn't heard of this thing either. I spend a lot of my time in a fedora (http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Fed-Fightin'_Fedora) anyways, so I don't really buy it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LeeC on 05 Oct 2013, 14:24
I have only but a few hats as I think i look terrible in hats. Also I have a rather large cranium (forgot the measurements for brain cavity but had to be measured in a bio-anthropology class and it was 1/3 bigger than the average) I usually have to get large size hats.

I got a cowboy hat from my parents that says Indiana Jones (it is not a fedora) on the leather strap that goes around the head part.

A "Finn hat" from adventure time that my ex made me

a winter beanie I think they are called?  i call it a head sock.

an all black winter cap with ear flaps

an Ushanka made of rabbit fur.  It make me sweat in the winter time.  Good for when I visit my folks in upstate Maine though.  I need to get a new one though as it may be a bit too small.

The top two are basically props I can;t wear outside the house.  the bottom 3 are for warmth.


The fedora seems to be the thing of hipsters and party gorillas from what I have seen.  If I ever got one I want the old style Indiana Jones one, not these short brim styley ones they sell now.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Oct 2013, 14:29
I have my military hats, a couple ball caps and beanies (mostly left over from the military, I love my watch cap!) a cowboy hat (not a Stetson), my Akubra (Akima is clear to make fun of me for this one), and my renn faire chevalier hat. A couple driving caps (I lost my favorite one and have yet to find a suitable replacement) I think I also have a beret kicking around for various costumes. I need to pick up a proper ushanka.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 05 Oct 2013, 17:26
Ok, let's clear things up about these hats you're talking about.

THIS is a fedora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora):

(http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2008/03/fedora.jpg)

THIS is a trilby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilby):

(http://media.onsugar.com/files/2010/10/40/1/577/5770211/f0f8bafc6b6da4e5_Hat_Trend_-_Trilby_Hats_2.preview.jpg)

A trilby is a type of fedora, but a fedora is not a trilby. Most of the hatred is towards trilbies because those are more readily available and are typically what the douchey Nice Guys wear. Hating all fedoras because one stereotypical people group (a relatively small people group) is dumb and sad because nice fedoras are just that - really nice! They are pretty classy hats when worn with appropriately classy attire*! My husband is a big fan of 20s fashion and he looks pretty damn GOOD dressed up in a suit and fedora. And it's a real fedora like I pictured above, not a trilby, and it's a well made one, not a $10 crappy one.

*And when worn with casual attire, I personally have no shits to give. I've worn chucks with fancy dresses, I'm not one to judge.

Note: The rest of this post should be read in a happily sarcastic tone.

We've had this discussion in the past in the old fashion thread, I'm pretty sure, but I'm kinda tired of the whole, "everyone who wears a fedora is a douche," thing because it's not true. You don't like the hat? Fine! Who cares! It's not your job to "educate" fedora/trilby wearers that their hat is dumb, because they are free to wear whatever hat they like. You think their taste in hats is bad? They probably also think YOUR taste in hats is bad! Personally I like wearing the most ridiculous hats I can find because sometimes it's fun to wear weird atrocities on your head! Especially those weird ass fascinator things you see in department stores and during Royal Weddings. (If you have not tried walking around a store with one of those things on your head, you should because it's hilarious - no lie.) And some people just wanna wear something on their head and don't want to wear a baseball cap or cowboy hat or beanie or whatever. If only people were as lucky as me and had a face shape that worked with any and all hats. Like srsly I wear hats like a boss, be jealous.

/end happy sarcasm
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Blue Kitty on 05 Oct 2013, 17:33
I've got a Finn hat, which I wear outside during winter, and a Mega Man hat that my girlfriend got for me. I also have a Detroit Tigers cap that I usually wear to hide my bed head.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Oct 2013, 17:47
I used to wear fedoras all the time, I had a collection of three or four, (real fedoras mind you) and I tended to dress to the fedora, with either black jeans, khakis or other more "proper" trousers and a button down. (I was quite well known for my "Castro Lite" look in summer with various tropical shirts (usually in whites or tans instead of those horrendous Hawaiian shirts) khaki or white shorts and one of my "summer" straw fedoras. Sadly I lost them all at one point or another. Which is where my slouch cap (also called an Akubra, for the company that makes them) comes in.

(http://onlinemilitaria.com/images/aruba_hat.jpg)

Mine is in leather with a more American West styled crown, but is the same otherwise. I'm quite fond of it though I don't wear it, or indeed any hat often any more.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 05 Oct 2013, 17:57
I have a Tyrolean hat*, a Waldo hat, a fleece Totoro hat, a Jayne hat, two sun hats, a chullo-like hat, a Dobby inspired hat, a small newsboy, and several various knit beanies/skull caps/whatever-the-right-word-is hats. I think there's more, but they might be at my mom's house somewhere. I like wearing hats. And I'm serious, the weirder the better.

*I specifically wear this to the various Oktoberfests around the city (there's pretty much one every weekend starting at the end of August continuing through early October, no lie) and a once-a-month Händlmaier's mustard fan club (http://mustardclub.org/) brunch. I don't typically wear it just to wear it like I do with the others.

Now I'm tempted to photograph myself in all of my hats. Maybe all at once ala Team Fortress 2!
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2013, 19:41
Honestly I regret having posted that picture with the hats because it sparked this weird tangential discussion.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2013, 19:50
I can understand regretting it when it caused unpleasantness but didn't the subsequent hat sharing make it sort of worth it?
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Oct 2013, 20:01
Honestly I regret having posted that picture with the hats because it sparked this weird tangential discussion.

Don't, we're all abut the tangential discussions! 

I wear hats out of necessity.  Sunburned scalps do not allow one to sleep well against a pillow.  I have a collection of ballcaps in various states of decay; One with the Star Spangled banner that I picked up at Fort McHenry, one with the make-a-wish logo, one with the human rights equal sign on it, and the only one with a sports logo is for the USBDT (US beer drinking team - it's official!). 

I've had a nice Panama for summer (it fell apart a few years ago), and what I describe as a very broad brimmed fedora (fedora style crown, but the brim is a good 4 - 5 inches) for nasty weather (keeps he rain and snow off the shoulders, the back of the neck, out of the face... best hat in the world).  It's showing its age, though. 

I had a tall crowned flat brimmed straw hat that people said made me look Amish until the puppy ate it last fall, and I have a couple of simple knit beanies for winter. 

At least I think that's what people mean by beanies.  They look like this;

(http://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/custom-hats/knit-beanie-cap-extralarge-274199.jpg)

Sometimes I turn the edges up, my wife says I look like a longshoreman. 

I also found, in an old suit jacket, a collection of about half a dozen Yarmulkes from weddings and bar mitzvahs over the decades.  I don't wear them, but I think I want a fez... just on general principles. 

Oh, and I still have the hood from my monk's habit from when I was Brother Martin in my SCA days. 

For someone who needs hats, my collection's pretty paltry. 
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Oct 2013, 20:47
The merchandise store absolutely needs to carry Worry Hats.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Oct 2013, 21:20
Knit,

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6187/6030159601_7206ca8d26.jpg)


crochet,

(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/176/e/f/worry_hat_by_ferdiee_the_dragon-d3jwwmu.jpg)


or fleece? 

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5081/5328591066_6951740e6d_o.jpg)


That's just a few that a search on "worry hat" produced.  They're out there...
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: henri bemis on 05 Oct 2013, 21:30
Dammit, as soon as I learn how to knit something other than a scarf, I am making myself a worry hat.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 05 Oct 2013, 22:09
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. How did I forget about the worry hat?! And that first photo you posted is a free pattern on Ravelry, which means I can make my own.

Yes, I will be making one of these in the future...to add to my growing collection of nerdy and/or ear flapped hats.

Honestly I regret having posted that picture with the hats because it sparked this weird tangential discussion.

Hmph! Well I don't!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: ackblom12 on 05 Oct 2013, 23:37
I wear hats out of necessity.  Sunburned scalps do not allow one to sleep well against a pillow.

Seriously, since I shaved my head I've realized how much of a problem Vitiglio actually is as far as my health is concerned. I despise the fact that I have to get used to wearing headware during sunny seasons or risk being perpetually sunburned and dying of fucking skin cancer.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 00:14
I take it you don't tan well then? I shaved my head for years just as a matter of ease and cleanliness, (shaved scalps don't pick up dirt in the field nearly as badly as hair) and once my skull tanned up to the rest of me burning wasn't a problem.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Oct 2013, 00:24
I have Vitiligo, I don't actually tan at all on a large portion of my body because I don't have Melanin in a sizable portion of my skin. If I tan or get sun burn, my white blood cells start attacking the Melanin and Melanin doesn't come back once it's gone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo

I avoid 99% of the social stigma since I'm white, but it has some rather unfortunate day to day, as well as some very possible long term, issues.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 00:31
Man less then 1% of total global population. Now THAT are some long odds to have working against you.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 00:41
Steve, if you don't like hats, how about just getting really crazy about using sunblock? I don't have vitiligo, but I burn quicker than most people and sunblock is my best friend in summer, I have a 50+ bottle in my bag wherever I go from like May to September. It's a hassle at first, but once you get into it it's just routine.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: ackblom12 on 06 Oct 2013, 00:51
I definitely try Kris. When I had the short stint with flyering for Dominoes, I learned quickly that I had to apply sunscreen every hour on the dot, otherwise I ended up with ridiculously terrible sunburn and blistering. It doesn't help that routine isn't something I have a lot of success starting due to the ADHD, but on the job at least, with it being a very immediate concern, I was able to do so by the 3rd day or so.

Speaking of the Vitiligo though, I think it's a small part of why people just can't recognize me in old pictures.

These are me when I was in my early and mid teens. The pictures are a little washed out, but for anyone who's seen more recent pictures of me can attest to how much lighter I am now days.

(http://i.imgur.com/RxYJI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/h0kGC.jpg)

People who know me regularly respond to seeing these pictures with "When did you stop being South Asian" and "Were you a misplaced Filipino child?". In reality I'm simply Irish/Cherokee and have lost much of my skin tone, but not the NA physical features.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Oct 2013, 02:04
stereotypes exist for a reason,

Indeed; as any form of generalisation, they make it easier than having to deal with 8 billion people individually at all times.  At the same time, it is necessary to take care that individuals are not lost in the generalisation or stereotype - that's what leads to all the various bad "-isms"; while I wouldn't compare Fedora-ism with, say, sexism in harmfulness - it is a product of a similar thought process.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Akima on 06 Oct 2013, 02:29
"You don't like fedoras? What is wrong with you?"
(http://www.indygear.com/images/gear/fedora/bts/ToD-fed.jpg)

I don't think fedora-hate is a thing here. Akubra makes a couple (http://www.akubra.com.au/fashion.html) of ranges (http://www.akubra.com.au/products_lifestyle.html) that are lighter and more car-friendly than their traditional heavier, push-your-horse-through-the-bush hats. You only have to see all the older men with deep scars and obvious skin-grafts on their faces and scalps to see why everyone should be wearing a hat when they are out of doors. Having chunks of your nose and ears cut away is not a good look either. I don't wear an Akubra, but I am happy to wear the traditional douli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conical_straw_hat) or carry a parasol, doing either of which would require a very secure Western man. Or a cricket fan:

(http://images.smh.com.au/2013/06/05/4464659/dh_fans-20130605072831242075-620x349.jpg)

The Australian military slouch hat is truly iconic, dating back to the Victorian Mounted Rifles raised in 1880's, and later to fight in the Boer War, even before our nation was founded. The basic hat is very practical, but the turned-up brim is arguably a little affected unless you regularly carry a rifle in the "slope arms" position (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2681/4480113476_b9ae5cacde.jpg).
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 02:37
Well, if we're talking purely style-wise it's less about the hat itself and more like this:

(http://www.lolwithme.org/wp-content/uploads/FedoraSucks.jpg)

But oh well, people can wear whatever they want to. I also found this, which is pretty funny, although personally I'd switch the 'hipster' label with something else because I don't think I've ever seen a hipster wearing a fedora, and also hipsters are known for being pretty obsessive about the way they appear so body odor isn't really a thing either. Anyway,

(http://cdn.thegloss.com/files/2010/08/Fedoras.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 06 Oct 2013, 03:36
stereotypes exist for a reason,

Indeed; as any form of generalisation, they make it easier than having to deal with 8 billion people individually at all times.  At the same time, it is necessary to take care that individuals are not lost in the generalisation or stereotype - that's what leads to all the various bad "-isms"; while I wouldn't compare Fedora-ism with, say, sexism in harmfulness - it is a product of a similar thought process.

Thank you. I've been trying to explain that to my roommates ever since I moved in here.


As to fedoras: Obviously, I have one (you've seen the picture). I bought it when I had organized a meet-up with people from another forum (to be precise, a Team Fortress forum, hence the hats) and I've been wearing it sometimes. Especially on bad hair days. Or when I can't be bothered. Or when I'm wearing blue or things that match with blue.

I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again. And as a side note, I find it hilarious that most of this forum boasts itself with being accepting towards people just to find a thread where people are judged upon their fashion.

Just my 0.02c. I'm outta here.


edit: This is not meant to be directed towards all of you who have posted here, but I'm sure the relevant people will know who its addressed to.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 03:47

I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again. And as a side note, I find it hilarious that most of this forum boasts itself with being accepting towards people just to find a thread where people are judged upon their fashion.


I also find it hilarious that a forum that boasts about being open minded and accepting will just brush off an actual problematic issue that has exited for a while because they 'have never heard it before', but that's just me. Also what Paul said about stereotypes/generalisation is what I was trying to say as well, I just couldn't find a good way to say it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: ankhtahr on 06 Oct 2013, 04:06
The only thing I regularly put on my head is a bike helmet. I might wear a hat under it (a special under-helmet thing by Vaude; looks ridiculous, but well, it's under the helmet) but only on cold winter days.

I don't think the form of my face would be good for stylish hat wearing.

(slightly off topic random thought: we Germans have many words for hats. ”Hüte” (singular: ”Hut”) are only these things which have a shape and are worn mostly for reasons of style. ”Mützen” are soft things worn to keep you warm. And then there are words with more fuzzy meanings, like ”Kappen”.)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Thrillho on 06 Oct 2013, 04:17

I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again. And as a side note, I find it hilarious that most of this forum boasts itself with being accepting towards people just to find a thread where people are judged upon their fashion.


I also find it hilarious that a forum that boasts about being open minded and accepting will just brush off an actual problematic issue that has exited for a while because they 'have never heard it before', but that's just me. Also what Paul said about stereotypes/generalisation is what I was trying to say as well, I just couldn't find a good way to say it.

I dismissed it because it was Jace who first raised it and I brush off most of what he says.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Welu on 06 Oct 2013, 04:35
Hey, guys. Giraffe hat.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/86085b7e7ed61e9b178f7a413021da28/tumblr_mh1q1sjMO11qjk0hmo1_250.jpg) (http://24.media.tumblr.com/c91304555ec7be76314e841546daddb7/tumblr_mh1q1sjMO11qjk0hmo2_250.jpg)

His name is Giraffey.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Aimless on 06 Oct 2013, 04:44
I honestly don't give an honest damn about the "good guy" thing - I've never heard of it before, and I really doubt that I ever will again.

I also find it hilarious that a forum that boasts about being open minded and accepting will just brush off an actual problematic issue that has exited for a while because they 'have never heard it before', but that's just me.

I assumed that "the 'good guy' thing" was shorthand for "the alleged connection between fedoras and being the bad kind of good guy that apparently only tumblr-addicts know or care about" :P

Also, you should wear a turban

(http://files.myopera.com/teamdalermehndi/albums/4503072/Artist_img_3.jpg)

I can vouch for their occasional excellence
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 06:54
That's exactly the thing though, where does 'alleged' and 'tumblr-addict' come from? Oh well never mind, I need to go write an essay anyway. Before that, here's a selection of hats I've worn and owned in the past couple years, spoiler tag because there are so friggin many and I don't want to clog up the page:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 07:02

The Australian military slouch hat is truly iconic, dating back to the Victorian Mounted Rifles raised in 1880's, and later to fight in the Boer War, even before our nation was founded. The basic hat is very practical, but the turned-up brim is arguably a little affected unless you regularly carry a rifle in the "slope arms" position (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2681/4480113476_b9ae5cacde.jpg).

Very true, the U.S. military in particular does next to nothing with the "shoulder arms" position (on either side of the body, though if used right shoulder, arms is the more common position) I still wear mine with an Aussie military band I got from a buddy and the brim up just because I think it looks good. I wish I could get one with the turned up brim's clasp reversed actually, because I could then have a purpose for it. I shoot with my right hand and right eye, so being able to turn up my right brim would pull it out of the way a little more and potentially give my a more effective shooting position.

Metope I think people are brushing your "issue" off because it's a ridiculous stereotype in the extreme at the very best.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: BeoPuppy on 06 Oct 2013, 07:07
"You don't like fedoras? What is wrong with you?"
(http://www.indygear.com/images/gear/fedora/bts/ToD-fed.jpg)
[...]
I own an Indy hat, albeit in a different colour! Copyrighted to Lucas Arts, naturally ...
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LTK on 06 Oct 2013, 07:34
Metope I think people are brushing your "issue" off because it's a ridiculous stereotype in the extreme at the very best.
The article Metope linked previously does a decent job of addressing how the increased prominence of girls in geek culture has caused the bad attitudes associated with "Men's Rights Activists" to flare up, to the point that they show up in force every time the topic of feminism is brought up. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrazpEFb9w) has a lot of relevant information about it as well. The "issue" is actually what's at the root of the widespread mistreatment of women (and every other non-straight white male minority) in online communities and not something that tumblr just made up for the lulz.

The fedora is just an innocent victim of the fashion sense of one demographic's unfortunate cultural outlook.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Thrillho on 06 Oct 2013, 07:35
Oh I was fully aware of the men's rights issue, I'd just never heard about the fedora aspect.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 07:51
The issue is definitely an important one, but it's not doing anyone any good to say that "the guys that do this often wear fedoras, therefore fedoras = this".
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 07:58
Metope I think people are brushing your "issue" off because it's a ridiculous stereotype in the extreme at the very best.
The article Metope linked previously does a decent job of addressing how the increased prominence of girls in geek culture has caused the bad attitudes associated with "Men's Rights Activists" to flare up, to the point that they show up in force every time the topic of feminism is brought up. This video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UrazpEFb9w) has a lot of relevant information about it as well. The "issue" is actually what's at the root of the widespread mistreatment of women (and every other non-straight white male minority) in online communities and not something that tumblr just made up for the lulz.

The fedora is just an innocent victim of the fashion sense of one demographic's unfortunate cultural outlook.

And that's not the issue we're talking about here. That IS an issue and a very valid one. The issue at hand is that "oh if you wear a fedora you hate wimminz" is about the most ridiuclous thing I've ever heard, and I goddamn watch CSPAN.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LTK on 06 Oct 2013, 08:37
And that's not the issue we're talking about here. That IS an issue and a very valid one. The issue at hand is that "oh if you wear a fedora you hate wimminz" is about the most ridiuclous thing I've ever heard, and I goddamn watch CSPAN.
I'm pretty sure that was issue that Metope was getting at when she was talking about "an actual problematic issue that has exi(s)ted for a while", but I'll let her speak for herself if she chooses to elaborate on that.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 08:40
We're not trying to ban people from wearing fedoras (at least I'm not), just explain why some people don't like them. Like that quote in my first post about this says, it's okay to not agree with and ignore the connotations, but at least they explain why some people react the way they do.

I've said a variation of this in several posts in this very thread, I thought what I was trying to get across was pretty loud and clear by now. I mean, it's okay to not agree with and ignore the connotations, but it's also okay to say 'I don't like fedoras because of these connotations.' Nobody ever said 'everyone who wears a fedora is a Nice Guy or a woman hater.', and it's pretty weird to me to completely deny the existence of the connotations at all when they clearly exist which some people have said they do. Ignoring and disagreeing is one thing, denying its existence is another.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Loki on 06 Oct 2013, 08:43
Tangent: we all come from different cultural circles. A fedora here would not have the same association as is apparently the case in the USA, except with the part of the population that is both fluent in English and familiar with this particular culture we are talking about. I.e., a VERY VERY fractional group. (Anecdotal evidence: I dareclaim none of the Germans on this forum have ever heard of the connection, which probably means noone they know has mentioned it).
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 06 Oct 2013, 08:54
I think the fedoras = sexist nice guys is largely an American thing, but it's a thing that's been around for years. It is ridiculous, but it's a stereotype that has real origins and is not a made up thing. I've known guys who fall into this stereotype and just as many who don't, but it's still a thing. Just like all nice males are not Nice Guys, not all dudes who wear fedoras are assholes. I don't think all guys who wear tight pants are assholes because of Hipsters, but some people automatically judge that way. Should we? No. But should it just be written off because you've never heard of it? No.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 08:55
I don't think it's even an American thing to be perfectly honest. I have /never/ heard of this till right now.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 06 Oct 2013, 08:59
Well, do you routinely wear a fedora or know a lot of dudes who do? I'm not saying it's everywhere, it's definitely in pockets, but I think it originated in this country.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 09:08
I used to wear fedoras fairly regularly, as mentioned they were classic fedoras, not a trilby. I know plenty of dudes who where or wore one or both of those styles of hat, and plenty of girls who do or did as well. (They were popular in the local alt scene while I was in high school, which is why the rude boys/skins switched to driving caps) and I can't say, even with the stupid amount of time I spent/spend online I have ever encountered this before, even symptoms of it. Maybe it's a generational gap thing I missed while I was in the Marines?


I will say I know I'm not a nice guy or a "Nice Guy". I'm a raging, arrogant asshole no matter what hat I'm wearing.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 09:10
The key thing to remember is that it's still a stereotype. So even if it's true in some cases, and even if some people make that connotation, does not mean they are justified in doing so. They have the right to do so, of course, but stereotypes should generally not be defended.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: ChaoSera on 06 Oct 2013, 11:11
(Anecdotal evidence: I dareclaim none of the Germans on this forum have ever heard of the connection, which probably means noone they know has mentioned it).
Sorry to disappoint you there, but I have had heard of that long before this thread was made. It comes with browsing 4chan (and /b/ in particular) regularly.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 06 Oct 2013, 13:13
If any of you have seen that Pic of me, this is the type of hat I wear on a regular basis.

http://www.drizabone.com.au/store/product/topender-hat-brown-s/
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 06 Oct 2013, 14:24
Personally I like wearing the most ridiculous hats I can find because sometimes it's fun to wear weird atrocities on your head! Especially those weird ass fascinator things you see in department stores and during Royal Weddings.


YES. Fascinators are amazing <3
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Akima on 06 Oct 2013, 14:34
If any of you have seen that Pic of me, this is the type of hat I wear on a regular basis.
http://www.drizabone.com.au/store/product/topender-hat-brown-s/
A very practical hat. For non-Australians, the "Top End" is far northern tropical Australia where it is very hot and very wet, often at the same time.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: pwhodges on 06 Oct 2013, 14:54
sometimes it's fun to wear weird atrocities on your head! Especially those weird ass fascinator things you see in department stores and during Royal Weddings.

This was not a Royal Wedding, but the wedding of my wife's niece.  On the left we have the mother of the bride, and on the right her life-long best friend - it's fascinators at dawn!

(http://cassland.org/images/QC/Fascinators.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 15:09
...the women have kidnapped tropical birds and attached them to their heads with string! Such cruelty! ;)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 15:09
Are you sure it's not the other way around? Perhaps the birds are controlling the humans.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 15:12
Hmmm... a fascinating possibility. I shall have to see about a grant to study this further.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LeeC on 06 Oct 2013, 15:19
The hats "normal" people wear
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Baseball_cap.jpg)

The hats I want to wear
(http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/e4/4/AAAAAszxntIAAAAAAORGuw.jpg?v=1206555040000)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 15:24
I used to be partial to Santa hats. I still think they're pretty cool.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Oct 2013, 15:26
Ever since I moved to Oklahoma I've been tempted to get a cowboy hat, but I've never been crazy enough to go through with it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 15:54
I bought a purple cowboy hat at a county fair in Indiana, it's amazing.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 06 Oct 2013, 15:57
The hats I want to wear
(http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/e4/4/AAAAAszxntIAAAAAAORGuw.jpg?v=1206555040000)

That's because they are one of the Best Hats.

I really want to buy one like this next time I go to the Renaissance Festival:

(http://www.yourfantasycostume.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/elizabethan-224x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LTK on 06 Oct 2013, 16:00
Shortly before my last birthday, a friend asked me what she should get me as a present, and I told her that she could get whatever she wanted me to have. "What, anything? Even, like, a pink cowboy hat?" I said that I'd love to get a pink cowboy hat.

She didn't get me a pink cowboy hat, but a black one, and I was happy. I'll take a picture when I get around to it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 16:16
"What, anything? Even, like, a pink cowboy hat?"
"Especially a pink cowboy hat!"
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 16:18
Howdy, y'all!

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3723/10117369905_9d752ce2c7.jpg)

The sad thing is I didn't buy it. :(
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 16:23
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1075439_630159860342612_696326827_o.jpg)

Me and the lovely Sarah at my cousin's wedding in Montana this past July. We don't own the hats, but they were provided at the reception for anyone who wanted one. Like I said...Montana :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Metope on 06 Oct 2013, 16:24
That is pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 17:10
This has been posted else where, but relevant.

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/401914_10151067428290815_956372896_n.jpg)

While the hat completes the ensemble and informs the world that yes, my buckle is completely swashed do pay special attention to the sash. It was a gift to me from the queen of America.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 17:52
queen of America.
...Scarlett Johansson?
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 17:52
....yes.

Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 06 Oct 2013, 18:13
If only...
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 06 Oct 2013, 19:13
queen of America.
...Scarlett Johansson?

I thought that that was Oprah Winfrey
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: lepetitfromage on 06 Oct 2013, 19:24
I hope these work! (pulling from FB...)

We had a photobooth at our wedding and there were hats galore! Here's me and my daddy- he looks smashing in his pink cowboy hat!
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q71/s720x720/970105_993646377712_1032002884_n.jpg)


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 06 Oct 2013, 19:37
The mustache really works for your cheese, you should keep it.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Oct 2013, 19:39
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/2570_537229371225_11850_n.jpg)
All hail Queen Cheese!
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Jace on 07 Oct 2013, 16:50
image

There is a boot just straight up on the table.

Also you wanna talk hats, I will show you some motherfucking hats.
I know I've posted this before but let's take a look at my three hats.
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/44646_180906818754274_2763722_n.jpg)
That's right we've got a coif, a floppy hat, and a hood. Bitches don't know bout my layers.

The dude in the background there got an award that he didn't deserve and also they called him chivalrous but he
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2013, 12:14
This is for Metope:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d110f5dc97aae57155b82283380245b7/tumblr_mur0klG7TZ1qb5gkjo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Oct 2013, 12:17
Well, that escalated quickly.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 17 Oct 2013, 16:12
Pokemon XY - gotta be about fashion since it's based in France...
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 Oct 2013, 16:21
What the hell is going on in here
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 Oct 2013, 16:26
This confuses me much less.

Also you want hat? I'LL SHOW YOU HAT

Er....once I get it uploaded. Hold on
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Oct 2013, 16:35
All I can say is: better here than in the Relate section of the forum...
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: de_la_Nae on 17 Oct 2013, 16:36
I'm a little disconcerted to find that I'm not certain where HAT is. Huh. That's...troublesome.

But here, have an older picture. If it works.
(https://flpics2.a.ssl.fastly.net/1923/1923437/0004e8f8-47f2-c125-73a5-ab10fa7b4c45_720.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Oct 2013, 18:55
I need to buy my Soviet Commissar's cap before Fall In.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 17 Oct 2013, 19:00
You mean this one?


(http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f71/mrpinski-s-judge-dredd-helmet-contest-entry-soviet.png-153629d1364999749t)


 ;D
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Oct 2013, 19:03
That'd be uncomfortable to wear all day.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Valdís on 17 Oct 2013, 19:03
Probably closer to this one:

(http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/6287/yestcommissar.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 17 Oct 2013, 19:05
Kugai, I was about to ask if that was Soviet Judge Dredd and then I quoted you and yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Oct 2013, 19:17
Yep Valdis has it right. This one: http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_572_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_LEATHER_Visor_Hat_Peaked_Cap_KGB_WW2.html

These are also in contention:
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_571_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_Peaked_Visor_Hat_Cap_WW2_WW1.html

So far this Soviet Naval Officer's cap is winning.
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_560_Soviet_Army_MILITARY_NAVY_OFFICER_Uniform_Visor_Hat_Cap.html

I have been thinking about a Naval officer's Ushanka as well, but that would be for practical purposes, not fucking around at wargaming cons.

http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_203_Soviet_Army_Uniform_NATURAL_FUR_Hat_Ushanka_LEATHER_TOP.html
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 17 Oct 2013, 19:26
Da tovarisch
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 17 Oct 2013, 19:27
Kugai, I was about to ask if that was Soviet Judge Dredd and then I quoted you and yes, yes it is.

Yup, East Meg Judge.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 17 Oct 2013, 19:33
Yep Valdis has it right. This one: http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_572_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_LEATHER_Visor_Hat_Peaked_Cap_KGB_WW2.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_572_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_LEATHER_Visor_Hat_Peaked_Cap_KGB_WW2.html)

These are also in contention:
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_571_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_Peaked_Visor_Hat_Cap_WW2_WW1.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_571_Soviet_Army_OFFICER_Uniform_Peaked_Visor_Hat_Cap_WW2_WW1.html)

So far this Soviet Naval Officer's cap is winning.
http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_560_Soviet_Army_MILITARY_NAVY_OFFICER_Uniform_Visor_Hat_Cap.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_560_Soviet_Army_MILITARY_NAVY_OFFICER_Uniform_Visor_Hat_Cap.html)

I have been thinking about a Naval officer's Ushanka as well, but that would be for practical purposes, not fucking around at wargaming cons.

http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_203_Soviet_Army_Uniform_NATURAL_FUR_Hat_Ushanka_LEATHER_TOP.html (http://www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_203_Soviet_Army_Uniform_NATURAL_FUR_Hat_Ushanka_LEATHER_TOP.html)


And in honor of GarandMarine's choice

All Rise!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDrtNEr_5M)


 ;D      :angel:
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Oct 2013, 19:41
As a Soviet General commanding the first division of the third shock army, I accept this task from Comrade Stalin. We shall crush all resistance from the Hitlerites beneath the treads of our tanks.

Пересылка Товарищи!



Side note: Lenin would have been disgusted with how many times his name's mentioned in the Soviet anthem, amongst a great many other things about the USSR. Especially under Stalin.

Fuck it. Have some more Russia moto!


It is important to note that "Honor and Praise" in Russian is "Chesty Puller". Oohrah.

Not one for berets though. I think they look kinda dumb honestly.

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/286/7/d/balalaika___the_call_by_roracosplay-d5hn54c.jpg)

Now for a classic.

Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 17 Oct 2013, 19:57
Heh

Your signature reminded me of Conan's prayer to Crom.


Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Oct 2013, 20:06
That clip contains some pretty bad ass hats.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Akima on 18 Oct 2013, 02:23
The ushanka is stylish and practical, as demonstrated by this Chinese police officer.
(http://www.chinacartimes.com/wp-content/04.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Oct 2013, 04:13
That outfit screams motorcycle police officer.


Which is bad ass.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Nikolai on 18 Oct 2013, 10:52
I picked up a white ushanka my last stopover in Manas (military staging point in Kyrgyzstan for units going to/coming from Afghanistan). It's my drinking hat.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 18 Oct 2013, 11:00
That clip contains some pretty bad ass hats.

Crom!

Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Oct 2013, 12:27
bad ass hats
Totally read that as bad asshats.


(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/hyphen.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LeeC on 22 Oct 2013, 15:10
commissar hats are awesome, I am the jealous Valdis!


saw these:
(http://i.imgur.com/CF14Fz5.jpg)

If I had a nerdy friend that wore this, their arm would be soooo red from all the sick high fives we would be doing.  I'd wear a wampa hat.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Welu on 22 Oct 2013, 16:12
I spent ages trying to get one of those but they be expensive.

~ ~

My hat for my Halloween costume arrived, too bad I left it at Mammy's and forgot to take a photo of myself wearing it. This is it though:

(http://i.imgur.com/UCbHwVG.jpg?1) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0095VR6NO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

It's got more of a cowboy hat style curve than the one in the picture but it's still nice quality and surprisingly, fit me quite well! Hats are usually way too big on me. Feel free to guess what I'm dressing up as and hint: It's not a cowboy/girl. Bonus hint: I'm going to be wearing this tie as well:

(http://i.imgur.com/K60T37L.jpg?1) (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stripe-Black-Silver-Grey-Striped-Mens-Tie-Pattern-SALE-Gift-Present-Wedding-/111184004045?pt=UK_Ties&hash=item19e31543cd)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Oct 2013, 20:07
We'll be payin' Don Welu the proper respect she desoives. 
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Kugai on 23 Oct 2013, 12:17
Before she makes you an offer you can't refuse?
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Welu on 23 Oct 2013, 14:11
'Fraid I'm not going to be mafia. I have done that before though.

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Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Valdís on 23 Oct 2013, 15:19
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:-D Roger that!
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: LTK on 07 Mar 2014, 13:08
Been a while since we talked about this but nevertheless I'd like to point to Robert Rath's article (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/criticalintel/11083-The-History-And-Abuse-of-The-Fedora) on fedoras over at the Escapist. His column is the most insightful thing on the Escapist by a wide margin.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Grognard on 07 Mar 2014, 18:56
this here is what I wear occasionally.  Christmas present from my brother.

(https://www.tomswesternstore.com/image/cache/data/Hats/Felt%20Hats/duble%20s%20felt%20hat%20style%2071400-222%20mossy%20oak-500x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Mar 2014, 19:40
This thread being bumped had the unfortunate side effect of me remembering Jace existed.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Mar 2014, 03:51
Jace still exists, and by all accounts is a nice guy when not being wound up here. I won't let this thread become a hate-pile on him - moar hats plz.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Lines on 08 Mar 2014, 09:07
What May said.
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Mar 2014, 09:09
when not being wound up here
I agree that we shouldn't hate on someone who isn't here to defend himself, but I don't agree on blaming his actions on the rest of the forum for "winding him up". Anyway, HATS.

Title: Re: Hats
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Mar 2014, 09:52
My favorite hat remains my chevalier, or my Akubra, the latter of which mixed with my love of large knives, cooked meat, khaki clothes and drinking a ton makes me a walking Australian stereotype
Title: Re: Hats
Post by: doombilly on 11 Mar 2014, 17:30
wow, I don'tknow where the fuck I posted that... oh well.
(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-ash3/t1/c29.29.357.357/s160x160/1237746_10151930308124155_2131584788_n.jpg)