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Title: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 24 Apr 2009, 20:11
I've got no hate for Ibanez guitars. They sound great and the majority of them look fine (take notice, B.C. Rich). I personally wouldn't buy one, 'cause I am not even close to Ibanez's target demographic, tonally or aesthetically. But I wouldn't mind playing one at all!
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Post by: zerobar on 24 Apr 2009, 20:53
^Yeah, you know I think people have this idea in their heads that "Uh, Ibanez, those is metals guitars. If you don't play metals, then those is so stupid." But I really think that both the rg and s series' are plenty tame in looks and appearances to fit into any genre of music. Hell, I met a guy who used a rg770 to play country. I will say though, that although the new ones are great, they still don't quite have the mojo of the ones from the late 80's and early 90's.

Another good one that they made in the 80's that's really overlooked is the roadstar series. Those apparently had a nice strat style "C" shape neck, and they looked really nice and reserved.

Really, I think Ibanez's bread and butter through the years are the ones that are the most "standard," like the rg, s and even as far as the Satriani guitars.

They make very affordable hollow bodies, too.
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Apr 2009, 23:50
Hagstrom make affordable hollowbodies AND respectable solidbodies. Best of both worlds.
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Post by: Bearer on 24 Apr 2009, 23:55
Hagstrom make affordable hollowbodies AND respectable solidbodies. Best of both worlds.
I have a friend who has a vintage Hagstrom (before they were bought out), of which we can't tell the year.  It's the most beautiful sounding acoustic I've ever heard, and truly a beauty to look at.  Also really quite heavy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 25 Apr 2009, 01:06
I really don't like basswood bodies, which rules out the majority of Ibanez guitars.  On the whole the brand isn't bad, it's just that for the money I would rather get something else in almost every price range.

When I saw The Thermals Wednesday Hutch Harris was playing on a 72 tele thinline.  The lo-fi fuzz and twang was so amazing I really, really want one now.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: MadassAlex on 25 Apr 2009, 01:26
Ibanez are really nice generalist guitars, but it's pretty clear that they're geared towards heavier use of distortion and leads. Which is fantastic for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 25 Apr 2009, 01:54
^yeah, the basswood on the rg's pretty much MAKES them lead guitars, but the S's are all mahogany. I saw one of the new S series guitars, at a store and it had a new type of trem on it. More like a Wilkensen. Anyone ever played around with their A series (Les Paul-ish) series much? Wondering if they're a viable alternative, price/quality/etc wise.

I played a couple of those Haggstrom airline copies. They're pretty cool, and I thought alot of them looked really interesting. But where I'm at, the only person who carries them is SIGNIFICANTLY overpriced on everything.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 25 Apr 2009, 02:16
Yeah, I played an S with a lovely trem. Wonderful tone, beautiful handling. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Apr 2009, 02:24
The S Body shape is, was and always will be the comfiest in the world.

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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2009, 08:49
So I was looking up old Airline guitars, like the one I have on hold..and I found this.

(http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/images/airline.jpg)

Guys, I think I might do that. Just throw in a bridge 'bucker. Maybe wire that three-way switch to on-off-off as a killswitch.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 25 Apr 2009, 08:53
or you could stop being a fuck and leave things the way they are supposed to be by way of natural order you compulsive modder fuck
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2009, 09:02
Dude, all it entails is NOT BUYING A NECK PICKUP. Haha.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Apr 2009, 08:02
I will give you my Les Paul copy's neck 'bucker if you promise to not be mean to that guitar. I'm planning on buying '57 reissue humbuckers for that fucker and giving her a total refret and setup job anyway.

The S Body shape is, was and always will be the comfiest in the world.

My AVRI Jag begs to differ, gentle sir.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Apr 2009, 08:04
I dunno, man. The idea of having something that rad as a single-pickup guitar makes me feel pretty good in the pants.
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Post by: Tehz on 26 Apr 2009, 20:23
I'm with Patrick, the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body is amazingly comfortable.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 26 Apr 2009, 21:32
Dude, all it entails is NOT BUYING A NECK PICKUP. Haha.

as well as rewiring the shit out of that thing. what killswitch? THERE IS NO SWITCH

I'm with Patrick, the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body is amazingly comfortable.

It's not uncomfortable but I'm more on the Tele side of this debate.
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Post by: zerobar on 26 Apr 2009, 22:41
Dude, all it entails is NOT BUYING A NECK PICKUP. Haha.

as well as rewiring the shit out of that thing. what killswitch? THERE IS NO SWITCH

I'm with Patrick, the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body is amazingly comfortable.

It's not uncomfortable but I'm more on the Tele side of this debate.

I hope, there's a switch. It's got two pickups. Not too useful without one. haha

I'm guessing that he's just talking about wiring up the three way switch so that it's just on/off/off, or something like that. Wouldn't be too difficult.

So I bought an airbrush today. I've still got to get paint. I figure after finals I'll start playing around with it on matte board, then after I feel comfortable I'll start working on guitars. I've got a kind of tele/baretta hybrid body that I'll probably start on, since it's got the most surface area, being a single pickup.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 26 Apr 2009, 22:47
Oh are we talking about the red and black Airline? I assumed he meant the one attached to his post.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 26 Apr 2009, 22:58
Yeah, I could see how that's confusing. i kinda assumed that what he was getting at was the he was inspired by the one in his post.

Even still, he'd probably still have an open wire channel and screw holes, which would be almost impossible to cover up, without a refinish. VERY convenient that there is no pickup route though. Kinda strange. I'm not too familiar with old Airlines. Is that common?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Caspian on 27 Apr 2009, 02:52
man, explorer tuned down to b, huge bass amp, delay pedal, neck pickup, tone down to 0, weed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :police:
 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Apr 2009, 05:20
Oh are we talking about the red and black Airline? I assumed he meant the one attached to his post.

Yeah, the redburst one. The white is just inspiration.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Apr 2009, 16:17
http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0252.jpg

Clicky.

For those who may be interested, and own stoptail guitars, this is pretty interesting (and was news for me). Apparently, Mr. Billy Gibbons has used this reverse string-wrap for some time with his '59 Les Paul, the Pearly Gates. We all know that's like the best sounding LP there is (subjective, blah blah blah).

Basically this works in the following way. If you have a stoptail bridge, you either have the tail risen to high, and therefore not as much resonance passes to the body as if you had it locked shut next to the body. Having it that low means the strings will lay on the bridge before reaching the saddles causing loss of sustain and from my experiencie an overall loss of high-end harmonics. Having it this way increases sustain and clarity of the guitar, at the cost of having to bend further to reach a certain pitch. It was hardly noticeable to me though. Here's a website explaining it all.

http://www.dominocs.com/AshBassGuitar/stoptailwrap.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Apr 2009, 16:24
Pearly Gates. We all know that's like the best sounding LP there is (because it fuckin' is).

Fix'd

Anyways, I did that wrapover-thing on my LP a while ago, and I ended up knocking the low E out the saddle constantly. Now I have it regular, but I still have the stoptail all the way down. Mmm, tension.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Apr 2009, 16:33
Pearly Gates. We all know that's like the best sounding LP there is (because it fuckin' is).

Fix'd

Anyways, I did that wrapover-thing on my LP a while ago, and I ended up knocking the low E out the saddle constantly. Now I have it regular, but I still have the stoptail all the way down. Mmm, tension.


I do that all the time on my freaking Jazzmaster. Apparently 0.053 E string isnt okay with Jazzmaster Saddles. I'll just cut the saddle groove a bit wider, you could have done that with your LP. I like tension, but t'was the loss of sustain that was annoying me. I mean, I don't need a sustainer now, get me? It just rings. Full clean, on a Blues Junior, mind you. It's awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 27 Apr 2009, 20:29
Yeah, I know a guy at our local shop that uses that with his Les Pauls. He plays in a death metal band, and as such, tunes super low. He uses super thick gauge strings and wraps it like that so it doesn't feel like spaghetti tuned down that low. I really find screwing with string tension kinda interesting. Like the way reverse head stocks will get you better bass sustain and response and easier string bends, at the sacrifice of high note sustain. Kinda would like to play around with ferrule placement on string throughs and see what results would work the best (if I had a guitar I wouldn't mind screwing up and had time to do it)
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Post by: doombilly on 28 Apr 2009, 06:38
Funny re: bridges and teh strings that goes thru them...

My 78 mustang, I had been wrapping it wrong for the entire time I have had it (early 90s)...until I took that luth class a few months ago. It is really supposed to be wrapped under the big bar. I've never had the whammy bar for it so I never noticed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Apr 2009, 08:26
Yeah, I know a guy at our local shop that uses that with his Les Pauls. He plays in a death metal band, and as such, tunes super low. He uses super thick gauge strings and wraps it like that so it doesn't feel like spaghetti tuned down that low. I really find screwing with string tension kinda interesting. Like the way reverse head stocks will get you better bass sustain and response and easier string bends, at the sacrifice of high note sustain. Kinda would like to play around with ferrule placement on string throughs and see what results would work the best (if I had a guitar I wouldn't mind screwing up and had time to do it)

Weird, I always felt like the tension decreased when I did the wraparound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Apr 2009, 08:29
I did it once with my Firebird and ended up with a ton of fret buzz, somehow..huh.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Apr 2009, 08:37
I always figured the string tension would decrease if you decrease the Break Angle, no?!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Apr 2009, 08:40
I thought so..
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Apr 2009, 08:47
Good, I increased the Break Angle on my LP, and it plays better now, actually.

God, I love that guitar.
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Post by: zerobar on 28 Apr 2009, 21:36
So, I've looked at making that Epiphone Coronet, and I had a couple of things that if I did it, it would have to have.

1.neck through
2.ebony fretboard
3.batwing headstock
4.angled recessed jack on the edge (like an Ibanez Jem)
5.stainless steel frets

The rest is up to opinion (paint, pickups) and design (wood for the "wings"). I'm contemplating not putting a pick guard on it (or at least a clear one), if I use an airbrushed graphic. Someone on here suggested british racing green, which got me looking at old race cars, particularly Lotus' from the 60's. There was one, which was British racing green and had a yellow stripe that flares to the front. I thought about putting that graphic on it, complete with number, and then airbrushing the Epiphone logo on, to look like a car logo. Here's a link to a picture of the car.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f163/76082d1205273506-vintage-lotus-f1-cars-conv_bild-c-465.jpeg

I also found where I can get a neck through blank with all those attributes at Carvin's website. My only gripe is that it's 24 frets, so I'd have to alter the body shape slightly to accommodate it. so I guess I'm just asking if this looks like a good idea?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Apr 2009, 10:37
GUYS, i have two guitars now!

Got a new ltd EC-1000 in vintage black to go along with my (grandfather's) ancient Hopf Telstar Standard.

Yes, it's a bit of an improvement.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 29 Apr 2009, 14:13
So, I've looked at making that Epiphone Coronet, and I had a couple of things that if I did it, it would have to have.

1.neck through
2.ebony fretboard
3.batwing headstock
4.angled recessed jack on the edge (like an Ibanez Jem)
5.stainless steel frets

The rest is up to opinion (paint, pickups) and design (wood for the "wings"). I'm contemplating not putting a pick guard on it (or at least a clear one), if I use an airbrushed graphic. Someone on here suggested british racing green, which got me looking at old race cars, particularly Lotus' from the 60's. There was one, which was British racing green and had a yellow stripe that flares to the front. I thought about putting that graphic on it, complete with number, and then airbrushing the Epiphone logo on, to look like a car logo. Here's a link to a picture of the car.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f163/76082d1205273506-vintage-lotus-f1-cars-conv_bild-c-465.jpeg

I also found where I can get a neck through blank with all those attributes at Carvin's website. My only gripe is that it's 24 frets, so I'd have to alter the body shape slightly to accommodate it. so I guess I'm just asking if this looks like a good idea?

This sounds like an incredible idea, albeit ambitious, but I assume you know what you're doing.  Maybe start a thread on the tdpri or offset guitars forums.  Build threads are awesome, and this guitar you're cooking up sounds excellent!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 29 Apr 2009, 14:43
Thanks, I've put together and painted guitars before, but never built them from the ground up. This seemed like the next logical step, especially since I hopefully won't have to shape/fret/install truss rod/radius the neck (the scariest part to me). The only issue I'm still iffy on is the pick guard. If I do start this, it won't be for a while, until I get a few paychecks. Any other opinions on it?
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Apr 2009, 19:41
I'd almost say no pickguard.  Oh have the pickguard be the racing decal.  Either way it sounds like you want to do something like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Shittyguitardrawing.png)
(please forgive my shitty drawing, drawing with a tablet is a new experience for me, and my desk is rather cluttered)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 29 Apr 2009, 21:21
Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it. I don't think I'm going to use a neck pickup, because of a couple reasons. First, the top cutaway is almost as far as the bottom, so I'm worried about the strength of the neck. Second, the originals (like the one I'm thinking of replicating) didn't have neck pickups (due to a similar reason, they were set necks and the billet where it connected would largely have been removed had they used a neck pickup). I rarely use the neck pickup anyway.

I think I'm going to make it slightly thicker than the originals (they were somewhere around an sg's thickness). I don't know how far the billet on the neck through blank goes back, but I'm guessing it won't be far enough and I'll have to add to it (no big deal). I'll probably have to take a generous amount of the back of the neck where it meets the body, which i think is how it's designed.

I'm gonna draw up a picture and I'll try and post it here later tonight.

Thanks for all the input!
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Post by: zerobar on 29 Apr 2009, 22:22
So here's a picture I drew up of what it would look like with all the things I have proposed. I'd probably have the 5 tilted the other way for obvious reasons and the "Lotus" is a little messed up. The more I look at it, the less I feel that 24 frets would screw the look up. I think I'd make it string through, since I know I'd use a hard tail, and that would make the most sense. I still have to price everything out, but I don't think money would be the primary concern. I'm fairly certain everything would come in under $1000, which is excellent considering what I'd be getting out of it.
Here's the drawing:

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3374/dscf0386.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0386.jpg)
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/dscf0386.jpg/1/w320.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img530/dscf0386.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 30 Apr 2009, 04:26
RE: low guitar tunings

There's a reason so many dudes play Les Paul style guitars down-tuned: the distance between the nut and the tuners tends to be greater. Reverse 6-in-line headstocks are the most extreme example of this, but the Gibson headstock is possibly the best compromise assuming regular string gauge and scale length.

That being said, it's all basically bullshit unless you're playing some crazy-ass Meshuggah style 31" scale guitar. Learn to compensate. Heaviness is more in your hands than in your guitar.
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Post by: zerobar on 30 Apr 2009, 10:01
^QFT

I still do notice a little bit of a difference, though, in the feel of a reverse headstock than a standard. Not enough to make a huge difference, but noticeable. Really though, what it finally comes down to is aesthetic choice.

I used to HATE reverse head stocks, but after a while they started to grow on me, to the point where I really like then now and will actively consider it a plus. 
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Post by: jeph on 03 May 2009, 00:34
Fodera actually offers an option where they move the low B-string to the A-string position on the headstock because it increases the string tension and thus the bass response:

(http://fodera.com/images/foderaimp5_full.jpg)


RE: double-cutaway guitars with set necks: the easiest solution to neck joint issues is to use a 21 or 22 fret neck, but leave the neck pickup over the 24th fret harmonic (like in a 60s SG reissue). This gives you a decent chunk of wood attaching the neck to the body while still allowing for a neck pickup. Paul Reed Smiths also use a big-ass neck joint and just route part of it out for the neck pickup, and I have never heard of a stability issue with any of their guitars.
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Post by: zerobar on 03 May 2009, 09:10
Yeah, the only thing is that the pre fretted, pre shaped, pre truss rod neck is pretty appealing to me. And it i couldn't use it, it would severely deter me from even considering attempting this project, at this time. Plus, it automatically comes with ebony, which i want, and it offers stainless steel frets, at less money than a bolt-on would be from Warmoth. And I don't mind having 24 frets, it's just that I rarely use them. I could maybe squeeze a single coil in there, but i think I'm just going to take the pluses over the minuses and get over not having a neck pickup. Like i said earlier, i rarely use it anyway and I pretty sure the originals didn't have them either, although what i'm making is pretty far from a perfect replica. I might look at a single coil though.

Interesting Bass. I can imagine it being a little confusing to string the first time, but it is a cool idea.

Anyone ever tried one of those Bich 10 strings they have out now? I always dismissed B.C. Rich as having total crap, and some of there stuff still is, but some of the vintage reissues actually look pretty nice.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 09:49
(http://www.lilypix.com/photos/data/d58072be2820e8682c0a27c0518e805e/2882_p58255.jpg)

This guy is having more fun than any of us will ever have in our entire lives.

I should just kill myself now. I would love to take him with me though just 'cause he picked a faggy relic'd Paul over any of those pristine 335s (esp. the GORGEOUS sunburst one!) in the background.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 10:02
That's not reliced, dude. That's Gary Moore's vintage LP. Used to belong to Peter Green.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 10:12
Either way, still lame. Needs moar vintage sunburst (and none of that cherry shit either).
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 May 2009, 10:41
finally, you post some decent pictures again...BEEN WAITIN' since the airliner!
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 10:53
Either way, still lame. Needs moar vintage sunburst (and none of that cherry shit either).

Fuck, you play a Les Paul for 50 years and see if it doesn't fade. Hurrrr.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 11:32
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst you've got a deal. Black doesn't fade nearly as bad as transparent red.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 03 May 2009, 11:38
A Mr. Page wants to have a word with you, Patrick. It is about your shit taste in guitars.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 11:39
To be fair, Patrick does play a Jaguar.

Though, Jags are nowhere near as cool as Jazzmasters.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 13:32
A Mr. Page wants to have a word with you, Patrick. It is about your shit taste in guitars.

Ted Leo's ES-335 begs to shit in your mouth. And differ.
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Post by: Chad K. on 03 May 2009, 16:48
So, I went hollowbody shopping yesterday to replace my Dot (which I don't care for). The Dot is a nice sounding and looking guitar, and the string action is great, but I'm not a fan of that thick neck.  I thought since I have been primarily a bass player for 17 years, the neck would be fine.  But, sine I switched to guitar in my band, I find my hand cramping up after a while.  This guitar would probably be great for soembody with E.T. fingers, but it's not for me.

After testing various Gretsch's, Epiphones, etc, I ended up with, unbelievably, an Ibanez.  It's a rubyburst AF75 and other than the name on the headstock I love it.  It played easily better than anything I tried, looked incredible, sounded better than most of the guitars I tried (admittedly I was in the $300-$700 range so Gibsons and high-end Gretsch were out).  It has the fancier older trapeze tailpiece that has since been replaced by the "T" style on some of the guitars. (THere seems to be no rhyme or reason on the tailpiece as the same models and years had different ones.  Different factories maybe?). Plus, it had a slight mark on the back of the neck so I got it at under 3 bills.  I couldn't believe it.  I'll probably change out the pickups and pots (which sound really good as is) and will definitely put in a bone nut, but other than that it's one helluva guitar.

After falling in love with and obtaining an Ibanez Talman and now this, I need to rethink my prejudice against this company. 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 May 2009, 17:59
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst you've got a deal. Black doesn't fade nearly as bad as transparent red.
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst you've got a deal.
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst
shitty cherry sunburst
FIGHT. YOU. BITCH!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 04 May 2009, 00:33


After testing various Gretsch's, Epiphones, etc, I ended up with, unbelievably, an Ibanez.  It's a rubyburst AF75 and other than the name on the headstock I love it.  It played easily better than anything I tried, looked incredible, sounded better than most of the guitars I tried (admittedly I was in the $300-$700 range so Gibsons and high-end Gretsch were out).  It has the fancier older trapeze tailpiece that has since been replaced by the "T" style on some of the guitars. (THere seems to be no rhyme or reason on the tailpiece as the same models and years had different ones.  Different factories maybe?). Plus, it had a slight mark on the back of the neck so I got it at under 3 bills.  I couldn't believe it.  I'll probably change out the pickups and pots (which sound really good as is) and will definitely put in a bone nut, but other than that it's one helluva guitar.


I have an '04 AS75T and you picked out the issues with it straight away.  The nut is a cheap piece of shit (mine broke, actually, a couple weeks after I got it) and the pickups could use a wee-bit more oomph but are otherwise not-too-bad.  Yeah, alright, the binding material feels cheap too, however, I'm the original owner on mine and play it fairly regularly and it has stayed put, so I guess I won't complain about it.

Basically, for under $500 you can put together an instrument that the vast majority of people cannot differentiate from an ES-335 in a blind listen off.  I'm really quite happy with mine and I stand by my statement a couple pages back that the hate on so many people seem to have for Ibanez is mostly unjustified.

In other news (and what I popped into the thread for) is that I just got a new (to me) band saw and am now re-considering my earlier statement that the guitar I'm currently building would be an explorer shape.  I'm now thinking a Jazzmaster shape in British racing green with H-S-H pickups, or perhaps just two humbuckers and SG wiring/pots (no pickguard). 

Meh.. I'm not ready to start working on the body yet, so it could change again.  The only thing I know for sure is that it's going to be green and chrome with a maple neck.   :laugh:
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Post by: BlahBlah on 04 May 2009, 05:57
For some reason my dad went crazy last night and bought a strat body, bridge, neck and tuners on eBay for £50 altogether. We have some spare pickups and we're thinking of wiring it like http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm

I fully expect this to sound pretty bad, I can't imagine the quality of a neck that cost £16. Does anyone have any experience of building cheap, nasty guitars?
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Post by: zerobar on 04 May 2009, 09:29
^Yeah, I saw somewhere on the internet that these people made these complete guitar kits for somewhere around $150. They had an ibanez rg kit where the body was routed like a regular ibanez body, but the frets where not in the right place, in relation to the end of the neck. I am almost COMPLETELY sure that the scale was WAY off. I didn't feel too good about the other kits, either. But, you never know. It might be cut right, but it's still probably bottom of the line Chinese manufacture, and i bet the quality of wood is pretty bad. for the price though....
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Post by: imapiratearg on 04 May 2009, 16:20
Lately I've been finding BBE effects really interesting.  Particularly their Sonic Maximizer and the Mind Bender Chorus/Vibrato.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 05 May 2009, 12:50
Lately I have fallen in love with the Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I also have fallen in love with having absolutely no money with which to procure one.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2009, 18:57
I have one.

Teehee!
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Post by: Tehz on 05 May 2009, 20:16
Lately I've fallen in love with OSG member nealescott's blonde Nocaster clone.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/metstele.jpg)

He's trying to sell it and I called dibs. Assuming I can get a couple hundred bucks more together before he gets back to me, I should have a sexy new instrument in my collection.  :-D

(due to terrible economic circumstances, my "collection" currently consists of my Jazzmaster and that's it. I had to sell both my Mexican Tele Deluxe and my Epiphone  :cry:)
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Post by: sean on 05 May 2009, 20:19
oh dear god

oh dear fucking god
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2009, 20:21
What?  The guitar or the Mets sticker?

Afterthought: What makes a Nocatser a Nocaster?  Is it the bridge?
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Post by: Tehz on 05 May 2009, 20:25
The lack of the word "Telecaster" on the headstock.

As far as I know that's really the only major difference. Telecasters were originally called Broadcasters but Gretsch tried to sue them over it or something so they just removed the word from the headstock for the period of time before they changed the name to Telecaster; the headstock just said "Fender".
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Post by: Radical AC on 05 May 2009, 20:42
I have one.

Teehee!

So do I.  High five!
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2009, 21:21
Yeah!

o/
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Post by: David_Dovey on 06 May 2009, 04:49
Ted Leo's ES-335 begs to shit in your mouth. And differ.

Hey dogg nowhere did I say that black-burst isn't good but I will seriously cunt you if you suggest cherry-burst is shit again.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 May 2009, 05:12
OH GOD YOU'RE GETTING THE MR. MET TELE?

I love that fucking guitar. WELL DONE, SIR.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 May 2009, 07:06
Lately I have fallen in love with the Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I also have fallen in love with having absolutely no money with which to procure one.

I am currently fapping over the Blues DeVille 410. o/

Ted Leo's ES-335 begs to shit in your mouth. And differ.

Hey dogg nowhere did I say that black-burst isn't good but I will seriously cunt you if you suggest cherry-burst is shit again.

Cherry-burst is shit.

(I need a good cunting, it's been ages since I got laid)
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Post by: Ballard on 06 May 2009, 07:43
OH GOD YOU'RE GETTING THE MR. MET TELE?

WELL DONE, SIR.

(It may be known already that I am a huge Mets fan)
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Post by: MadassAlex on 06 May 2009, 09:47
Hi, guys. I recently rediscovered an old blog post I made in a mostly-joking fashion, and I thought you guys might be amused:

Quote
Fuck you, guitarists. You are collectively my least favourite kind of musician (except for drummers) because:

1. You are such competitive assholes that it gets in the way of playing good music.

2. You're obsessed with your own fucking idea of "good" music and the true path of guitar playing that you can't open your mind to other paths, and thus hamstring yourselves as musicians.

3. You imitate other guitarists so fucking much that you'll never develop as an individual musician.

4. You think you're hot shit when you can't play. You know that faggot from My Chemical Romance? Or, well, both of them? They might play for a shitty pop-rock band, but I'd bet all my guitars that they're better than you.

5. You play with no emotion. Fuck you all. No matter if you're shredding, playing the blues, or rock or funk or whatever. You all sound so fucking stale, learn to communicate you musically illiterate fuckwits.

6. You can't read standard notation. What kind of musician can't fucking read standard notation? You, evidently. Fuck you.

Guitarists are the worst musicians. Ever.

This was the result of spending too much time on a guitar forum with people who were so insecure about their skills that they had to attack others and other genres whenever possible. I don't really think this way about guitarists, but there's an inkling of truth to this.
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Post by: Tehz on 06 May 2009, 13:02
Me getting Mr. Met isn't quite set in stone, but I'm currently trying to arrange something with Neale. Hopefully things will work out in my favor.
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Post by: doombilly on 07 May 2009, 05:28
Um... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatgU0Scr6o&feature=related
UR GTR IS 2 POINTY
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 May 2009, 06:11
OH GOD YOU'RE GETTING THE MR. MET TELE?

WELL DONE, SIR.

(It may be known already that I am a huge Mets fan)

Yeah, you've told me that. I'm not really a Mets fan, but that sticker looks so rad on that guitar.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 07 May 2009, 06:48
Um... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatgU0Scr6o&feature=related
UR GTR IS 2 POINTY

That thing hurts my eyes to look at.
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Post by: Ballard on 07 May 2009, 09:31
And has pretty shitty tone.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 09:39
Um... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatgU0Scr6o&feature=related
UR GTR IS 2 POINTY

That thing hurts my eyes to look at.

He looks like he's in danger of hurting his eyes too, with that upper bout.
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Post by: Thrillho on 07 May 2009, 11:54
Hi, guys. I recently rediscovered an old blog post I made in a mostly-joking fashion, and I thought you guys might be amused:

Quote
Fuck you, guitarists. You are collectively my least favourite kind of musician (except for drummers) because:

1. You are such competitive assholes that it gets in the way of playing good music.

2. You're obsessed with your own fucking idea of "good" music and the true path of guitar playing that you can't open your mind to other paths, and thus hamstring yourselves as musicians.

3. You imitate other guitarists so fucking much that you'll never develop as an individual musician.

4. You think you're hot shit when you can't play. You know that faggot from My Chemical Romance? Or, well, both of them? They might play for a shitty pop-rock band, but I'd bet all my guitars that they're better than you.

5. You play with no emotion. Fuck you all. No matter if you're shredding, playing the blues, or rock or funk or whatever. You all sound so fucking stale, learn to communicate you musically illiterate fuckwits.

6. You can't read standard notation. What kind of musician can't fucking read standard notation? You, evidently. Fuck you.

Guitarists are the worst musicians. Ever.

This was the result of spending too much time on a guitar forum with people who were so insecure about their skills that they had to attack others and other genres whenever possible. I don't really think this way about guitarists, but there's an inkling of truth to this.

Most if not all of those are true of a lot of people I know, and are part of the reasoning why I don't refer to myself as a 'guitarist' much any more, so much as someone who plays guitar.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 May 2009, 16:19
And has pretty shitty tone.

I actually quite disagree, I really like the way that thing sounds.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 07 May 2009, 20:37
Most if not all of those are true of a lot of people I know, and are part of the reasoning why I don't refer to myself as a 'guitarist' much any more, so much as someone who plays guitar.

We agree on something.

This comforts me.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 21:21
So, I'm probably going to buy that Telecaster tomorrow.  I'm pretty excited.  I don't think I'm going to get much for my Strat, though since I scratched the piss out of the finish.  :|  I wish I could get 'em out by myself.
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Post by: Bearer on 07 May 2009, 21:24
(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-MZWUP44W.jpg)
yes, it's a full hollow body.

It's being built by member oigun at the tdpri forums (http://www.tdpri.com)
Heres the link to the topic: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/160819-thintelemaster.html
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 21:35
(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyphh.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 May 2009, 21:43
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1003/3164799758_735db0680f.jpg)
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Post by: Ballard on 07 May 2009, 23:29
Holy flaming bastard semi-hollow Jag-caster Batman.

Also I think flamed tops are not tasteful. I challenge someone to prove me wrong.

They are beautiful in the sense that flamed wood finishes look pretty cool but in combination with the rest of the components that make up a guitar they are overkill and never look nice.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 23:34
Yeah.  That's the only thing I don't like about that guitar.  Flamed tops only look good on sunburst jazz guitars, I think.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 May 2009, 05:46
I don't think I'm going to get much for my Strat, though since I scratched the piss out of the finish.  :|  I wish I could get 'em out by myself.

PM me, dude. Is that the blue MIM guy? If you're willing to hold on to it a few months (at least 3) I'd be willing to snag this from you after I buy that hollowbody from Pat (pacafeliz) on OSG. I want to have a stock Strat again. I'll probably spraypaint it similar to what I did to my Squier, but eh :D

Also, Gene, that is not a flamed maple top, it is quilted. lern2wood
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 May 2009, 07:09
No, it's a Made In Korea Squire.  Red sparkle.  You're thinking of someone else.
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Post by: Ballard on 08 May 2009, 11:11
Suck me dry Patrick James they are both ugly.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 May 2009, 17:36
Considering the lack of satisfaction the both of us have been experiencing, you shouldn't even joke about that shit, Eugene Gurvich. Anyway, I agree in the vast majority of cases. I'd LOVE to see Gibson start using non-figured maple in their guitar tops, because it's not like pristine, flawlessly bookmatched grade AAAAA flame maple makes the fucker sound better.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 May 2009, 20:43
Pulled the trigger on that semi-hollow Tele I posted a page or two back.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 May 2009, 22:13
Alright... so I have a confession to make:

I own a VG strat.

I know, I know, it's so uncool.  But I have plenty of 'real' guitars.  I'm quite comfortable in owning a gimmick.  I got to tell you though... even though about half of the modeled sounds aren't worth a shit, (especially the accoustic ones) the half that are make that guitar a whole lot of fun to play.  I'm considering the 24 hours to record an album thing...  If I do, don't be surprised if you hear songs go from like 12 string to Open G in the same song.

Back to goofing off.

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Post by: valley_parade on 09 May 2009, 07:20
I hate you, GAS.

I want a Les Paul. A proper Les Paul. Carved top, set neck, humbuckers, that whole deal. Even an Epi studio would do the trick right now. I'm not even sure WHY I want one, but I do.
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 May 2009, 14:02
We agree on something.

This comforts me.

Bit bizarre that. We never agree on anything.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 09 May 2009, 14:11
I'm not a guitarist, I'm a musician. Guitar just happens to be my main instrument.
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 May 2009, 16:05
We care. A guitarist, in my eyes, is someone who plays guitar for their main, chosen instrument. Never mind if they play others, the guitar is what they play because they love playing guitar.

For me, every instrument is just a means to an end. I don't play guitar for the love of guitar, I play guitar for the love of music.
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Post by: Patrick on 09 May 2009, 17:24
"OH NOES, A CERTAIN WORD THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COINCIDENTALLY IDIOTS ALSO APPLIES TO ME, I MUST COMPLETELY REDEFINE MYSELF TO MAINTAIN COOL CRED"

I am with Jens, I hate that kind of shit. Let's just talk about our damn guitars, alright?

Today, I realized that playing nothing but chords on a guitar is infinitely more expressive than doing so on a piano. Fuck you, Elton John, my Jaguar hereby trumps your Steinway and is probably a tenth of the price.

(all due respect to Elton John, who is as technically skilled a pianist as you will probably ever find, I just don't like piano very much)
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Post by: sean on 09 May 2009, 18:55
hey guys i play two instruments what does that make me

er

fuck where did that trex smiley go i need it right now fuck
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 May 2009, 23:48
I play three.

Oh shit, you guys.

oh shit
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 May 2009, 01:36
hey guys i play two instruments what does that make me

er

fuck where did that trex smiley go i need it right now fuck
http://www.qwantz.com/forum/images/smiles/trex-omg.gif
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Post by: squawk on 10 May 2009, 02:05
Today, I realized that playing nothing but chords on a guitar is infinitely more expressive than doing so on a piano

hate to do this in THE GUITAR TOPIC! but
not really dude

although i guess it depends on who's playing the chords on what too.
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Post by: Thrillho on 10 May 2009, 07:53
"OH NOES, A CERTAIN WORD THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COINCIDENTALLY IDIOTS ALSO APPLIES TO ME, I MUST COMPLETELY REDEFINE MYSELF TO MAINTAIN COOL CRED"

Pat, you know me better than that.

Today, I realized that playing nothing but chords on a guitar is infinitely more expressive than doing so on a piano.

...That's just outright bollocks.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 May 2009, 10:27
No I'd agree. Playing rhythm piano is boring unless you're arpeggiating your chords or your voice is beautiful enough to make up for the simple accompaniment.

With guitar, as long as you're not just strumming up and down in a harsh, flat way, chords can be very expressive.

This post brought to you by: gene is strung out and just woke up!
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Post by: BlahBlah on 10 May 2009, 11:24
Guys, I built my own guitar over the weekend!

The total price for all the parts was about £30, and I managed to get most of them on eBay. The body is a strat one, but whoever had it before did some really weird things to it. The action was crazily high, and it has a brass bridge that has been screwed down so the tremolo arm can only dive. I've managed to fix the intonation and lower the action but for some reason the B string resonates a lot - it sounds like a sitar string. Surprisingly, the neck is really nice.

As for the electronics, I used three old pickups. I've no idea who made them or what they're meant to be but they sound ace. The neck one is a layered strat-size humbucker. It's seriously loud. I used this ( http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm ) wiring configuration. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to change the sound of their guitar, it has an amazing range. Mine is pretty messed up though, since I only had one capacitor so the tone knobs also effect t he volume, but depending on whether it's in parallel or serial mode they have to be turned in different directions.

It's pretty cool.
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Post by: sean on 10 May 2009, 12:00
man what are you guys on playing lonely chords on a piano is so fucking awesome.
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Post by: sean on 10 May 2009, 12:02
i play bass and thingamagoop (http://bleeplabs.com/thingamagoop/customize/)

i remember that thing from the photothread

what the fuck does it do?
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Post by: Lummer on 10 May 2009, 13:15
I'm not a guitarist, I'm a musician. Guitar just happens to be my main instrument.

That really is a quite curious sentence. I know, it's supposed to distance you from us pretentious pricks that call ourselves "Guitarists" or God Forbid, "LEAD Guitarists", but it just ends up making anyone who says it come off as more pretentious. Why is that so?
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Post by: Patrick on 10 May 2009, 17:49
"OH NOES, A CERTAIN WORD THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COINCIDENTALLY IDIOTS ALSO APPLIES TO ME, I MUST COMPLETELY REDEFINE MYSELF TO MAINTAIN COOL CRED"

Pat, you know me better than that.

I know, and it wasn't aimed at you, man, don't worry. I just hate it when people turn that kind of innocent-enough thing into an "OMG ME TOO, im too kool 4 this" clusterfuck.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 10 May 2009, 20:11
That really is a quite curious sentence. I know, it's supposed to distance you from us pretentious pricks that call ourselves "Guitarists" or God Forbid, "LEAD Guitarists", but it just ends up making anyone who says it come off as more pretentious. Why is that so?

It sounds pretentious when you say it, but it's an awesome way to think about music as it influences you to play music with less limitation than music restricted by the conventions of the guitar.

On the other hand, I completely acknowledge that I'm a prick lead guitarist. /shreddin'
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Post by: zerobar on 11 May 2009, 00:09
Guys, I built my own guitar over the weekend!

The total price for all the parts was about £30, and I managed to get most of them on eBay. The body is a strat one, but whoever had it before did some really weird things to it. The action was crazily high, and it has a brass bridge that has been screwed down so the tremolo arm can only dive. I've managed to fix the intonation and lower the action but for some reason the B string resonates a lot - it sounds like a sitar string. Surprisingly, the neck is really nice.

As for the electronics, I used three old pickups. I've no idea who made them or what they're meant to be but they sound ace. The neck one is a layered strat-size humbucker. It's seriously loud. I used this ( http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm ) wiring configuration. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to change the sound of their guitar, it has an amazing range. Mine is pretty messed up though, since I only had one capacitor so the tone knobs also effect t he volume, but depending on whether it's in parallel or serial mode they have to be turned in different directions.

It's pretty cool.

Awesome, post pictures of it!

In response to the B string problem, it could be a few things. How did you adjust the action? Did you use a feeler gauge? If you're working on guitars, I highly suggest getting one. They're very cheap and you can get them at most hardware stores  (normally used for checking spark plugs). It really helps with action and truss rod adjustment, since you can get EXACT measurements. Not necessary, but makes it alot easier.

My first guess would be the action is too low on that string. If raising the action doesn't solve the problem, then it could be a loose screw vibrating. Make sure everything's down tight, especially the saddle adjusters and the tuners. If that doesn't solve it, then it's likely that the nut is filed too low, and the string is hitting the first fret. There's really only one way to surefire fix this, and that's replacing the nut. You can either buy a nut blank, a set of files, and do it yourself, or go to a luthier and have them do it (probably cheaper and quicker, but you don't feel the same satisfaction). The best way to make sure that it's not the first fret is to have everything adjusted and tightened down and then fret the string at the first fret. if it doesn't buzz, then that's it.

Hope this helps, I'll be getting into my guitar building here soon, too. I'll try and thin out my unfinished projects (Kramer/Fender focus/strat, Kramer/Fender tele/baretta hybrid, relic tele project, and if I have time the Epiphone Coronet one off)
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Post by: doombilly on 12 May 2009, 08:03
hey guys i play two instruments what does that make me

er

fuck where did that trex smiley go i need it right now fuck

BI-CURIOUS

I play three.

Oh shit, you guys.

oh shit
TRY-SECKSHUAL

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Post by: Ballard on 12 May 2009, 08:25
ITT: doombilly returns and is still ace
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2009, 13:34
I'm not a guitarist, I'm a musician. Guitar just happens to be my main instrument.

That really is a quite curious sentence. I know, it's supposed to distance you from us pretentious pricks that call ourselves "Guitarists" or God Forbid, "LEAD Guitarists", but it just ends up making anyone who says it come off as more pretentious. Why is that so?

Because guitar is boring.

Srsly.

Okay, guitar is pretty kick ass. But I want waaaay more than just guitar. I'm seriously working on violin right now and want to get up to snuff on that so that I can say that violin and guitar are my two main instruments. I'm buying a bouzouki soon and will practice the hell out of it. I am a musician, and guitar just happened to be the first instrument I picked up because it is so readily accessible, easily played, and so many people can help me on it.

Mentioning help:

I am trying to put a new high E-string on my electric, but it keeps twanging. That is, I start to tune it, and then it suddenly gets insanely loose again, then I tune it so that it's slightly taut, then it gets loose again. What is going on I am freaking out here because I can't afford new strings.

Also, I took this string off of my acoustic to put on my electric, but I have done this often and this hasn't happened.
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Post by: Lummer on 12 May 2009, 13:52
You just need to learn to put the strings on properly, so that they "lock" around the tuning peg. It's nigh-on impossible to explain how to do it in writing, though.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2009, 14:05
I know how to put on the strings, I've been doing it for almost three years and I have never had this problem before.
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Post by: Patrick on 12 May 2009, 17:30
Mentioning help:

I am trying to put a new high E-string on my electric, but it keeps twanging. That is, I start to tune it, and then it suddenly gets insanely loose again, then I tune it so that it's slightly taut, then it gets loose again. What is going on I am freaking out here because I can't afford new strings.

Also, I took this string off of my acoustic to put on my electric, but I have done this often and this hasn't happened.

Maybe the winding near the ball end is coming undone. That happened on my Jag maybe 2 string sets ago. The winding around the ball end might be coming back up through the 'noose' knot where they wrap the string around itself to keep it from coming apart completely if this exact thing happens.

Take a good look at where the 'noose' knot is on this string as compared to the other strings. If it's closer to the tailpiece than the rest of your strings, you've got the culprit right there. Harmless in the long run, but it's a pain in the ass retuning every time until it finally decides there's no more slack to eat up.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 13 May 2009, 01:41
I'm just going to wait and not play guitar for a few days until I get paid and can buy strings

That sentence hurt to even write
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Post by: Lummer on 13 May 2009, 11:42
I know how to put on the strings, I've been doing it for almost three years and I have never had this problem before.

I know, but if you did it properly, that problem would never occur.

Thankfully, I found a guide:

http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/stringing.htm

Just do this, and all troubles will be GONE!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 13 May 2009, 13:15
Well, you could just play violin instead, silly.

I'm going to. This one song I'm working on feel a little...boring...so I'll just spend time arranging violin for it.

@Lummox - I think the problem is that the string is a bit too short to properly take hold. :|
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Post by: Ballard on 13 May 2009, 15:51
That is actually the same guide I looked up years ago when I learned to string and it was pretty useful 'cause until then I couldn't figure out how the fuck to lock in a string.
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Post by: edwinalink on 13 May 2009, 18:21
what the shit is the differance in duncan designed and EMG's on shecters?

...

shit, i just wish i had a guitar... well, one thats NOT a warlock...
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Post by: imapiratearg on 13 May 2009, 19:39
Duncan Designed means they're made by Seymour Duncan (and probably pretty ace, too), and EMG means it's got a set of EMG active pickups, which are battery powered.  Unless EMG makes a passive pickup and I don't know about it...
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Post by: Cernunnos on 13 May 2009, 19:45
The duncan-designed pickups are built in Korea, wheras the rest of their line is USA made. EMG actually does produce passive pickups, but chances are if he's looking at a Schecter they are probably active.
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Post by: edwinalink on 13 May 2009, 21:17
The duncan-designed pickups are built in Korea, wheras the rest of their line is USA made. EMG actually does produce passive pickups, but chances are if he's looking at a Schecter they are probably active.

Duncan Designed means they're made by Seymour Duncan (and probably pretty ace, too), and EMG means it's got a set of EMG active pickups, which are battery powered.  Unless EMG makes a passive pickup and I don't know about it...

is there a way to know whats a better choice for me (beginner trying to learn alt/goth/doom/whatever metal and rock)???

I just dont want to be stuck with a pretty pile of crap again...
and i want to stay under a grand....
so from my previous posts in this thread I have arrived at Schecter as my main brand.

and I'm looking at C-1 hellraisers and blood moons, and damien-6 (though the mark up on the damien for a left version seems to be 200 bucks, whereas the C-1 lefty's have a 50 buck mark up in most places.)

looks matter slightly, and NO tremolos... i just... I NEED to spend my money a little more wisely this time...
and I have no clue what all those pick-up's excell/fail at...

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Post by: E. Spaceman on 13 May 2009, 21:58
get the pointiest guitar you can find.
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Post by: Bearer on 13 May 2009, 22:04
So, I recently acquired the blueprints for a Jazzmaster, and am seriously considering making one (though a proper one at that), or getting a shit one off ebay and imagining it.  Thinking a P90, single coil, and a humbucker as the three pickups (in that order, neck to bridge) with a 3 way switch wired to the neck and bridge, and the single coil wired to a blender knob.  Perhaps throw a Bigsby on there for good measure.  I like my guitars to be eclectic as fuck, make all sorts of crazy sounds.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 13 May 2009, 22:43
Stuff.

You can't really go wrong with Schecter.  I've played one of their S-1's (an SG-type guitar) and enjoyed the hell out of it, and their Tempest guitars look really promising.
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Post by: edwinalink on 13 May 2009, 23:43
Stuff.

You can't really go wrong with Schecter.  I've played one of their S-1's (an SG-type guitar) and enjoyed the hell out of it, and their Tempest guitars look really promising.

yeah, thats the direction you guys pointed me last time! thanks for that! I'm looking for a tad nicer than the S-1's I've seen, the C-1's seem to come in every flavor and price... and the 006's are just pretty (though they seem to have the same quality of guts as my B.C. Rich NJ warlock)

now just point me to "guitar pick-ups for dummies" and I'll be good to go!

P.S.

I have sworn off pointy guitars... possibly forever!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 May 2009, 00:31
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)
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Post by: edwinalink on 14 May 2009, 01:15
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)

personally?

it wont stay in tune, the tremolo was/still is undersprung, my crossover knob only kinda worked, the paint was dull, the neck floppy(even after repeated adjustments by people much smarter than me) it chipped incredibly easy, my pick ups seemed to only be capable of pumping out atonal distortion. there was this horrible buzz when it was set as clean as i could get it. with small amounts of gentle use my top strap bolt came out...

and it just sounds like shit.

but I am no expert, that was just my experience. :-(
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Post by: MadassAlex on 14 May 2009, 04:00
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)

They are just plain old poor guitars. B.C Rich make some lovely top-range axes, but so does every other company.

The only thing Warlocks are good for is metal and they're not actually good for that, either. You're better off with an Ibanez or a Schecter or an ESP or an Epiphone or an anything ever.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 May 2009, 05:40
Emg's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMG,_Inc.)
They are overdriven, high-output pickups. Good for metal type things. They also require batteries, because they have a built-in preamp.

Duncan-designed humbuckers are going to be More versatile i would imagine. More traditional. Both kinds will play the kind of music it seems you want to play. read about them here. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/duncan-designed/) Keep in mind that they are essentially the bargain version, and probably are not made to the same quality as the American-made Duncans, though i have not read any reviews for them.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 May 2009, 07:18
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)

BC Rich for the most part makes absolutely hideous looking guitars.
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Post by: Ballard on 14 May 2009, 08:20
I remember a while back in this thread someone posted some super high-end B.C. Rich guitars that even I was partial to.

Personally if I were ever to play metal (and with every stoner rock record I've downloaded recently that desire has gotten stronger and stronger) I'd just invest in a gorgeous Les Paul. I don't see why the dedicated metal guitar niche exists in the first place- there are tons of more versatile guitars that would do the job quite well.

None of the original influential heavy metal bands played anything but Fender and Gibson (and in Lemmy's case, Rickenbacker).
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 May 2009, 08:50
that's mostly why I've been GASing over a Les Paul lately. I need something proper to get my stoner rock on.

Uh..I might be trading the LP Junior clone for this mid-90s Duo-Sonic. Probably will replace the pickguard if I get it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/Teleman027/Instruments/Photo16.jpg)

s'got a replacement neck as well. The originals were 22.5", this is a 24" Warmoth neck with the big CBS-style headstock.
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Post by: Lummer on 14 May 2009, 09:55
Did I mention how awesome my Les Paul is?
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Post by: edwinalink on 14 May 2009, 11:15
Emg's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMG,_Inc.)
They are overdriven, high-output pickups. Good for metal type things. They also require batteries, because they have a built-in preamp.

Duncan-designed humbuckers are going to be More versatile i would imagine. More traditional. Both kinds will play the kind of music it seems you want to play. read about them here. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/duncan-designed/) Keep in mind that they are essentially the bargain version, and probably are not made to the same quality as the American-made Duncans, though i have not read any reviews for them.

^thanks!^
it seems the duncan designed will be good for me to start with, then if i want to swap them out, or buy a different guitar i can at a later date....

I love the les pauls. if i was gonna spend around 1500 and up i would go for a gibson... but.

I am repeatedly told the quality is hit and miss on epiphone LP's. and since I would have to order my guitar (lefty) i could get a great one, or a pile o shit!

and since i dont really need the ULTIMATE METAL GUITAR just some thing to tool around on and learn with... I've darn near settled on a C-1... unless someone else can point me at a reputable guitar for under a grand that DOESNT require a 50/50 gamble?
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Post by: zerobar on 14 May 2009, 11:21
The easy way to tell whether or not emg's are active is if they don't say hz on them. All the hz's are passive, and are more commonly put on lower-end guitars, rather than the usually used set of active 81's and 85's. I believe that ALL EMG's are made in the USA, where as i'm pretty sure that the Duncan Designed ones are import manufacture, so I would feel that the EMG's would be a nicer pickup, and would fit what you're trying to play better. They are both actually fairly versatile, even though emg's do cater to the high gain market more, because the active one's have the ability to handle so much gain.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 May 2009, 11:23
Dammit dammit dammit the guy doesn't want another P-90 guitar.

And apparently the duo's routed for mini humbuckers. I was all set to get a black pickguard, witch hats, mini hums, and make it into a Duo-Sonic Deluxe..Duo-Blaster?
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Post by: zerobar on 14 May 2009, 11:27
Emg's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMG,_Inc.)
They are overdriven, high-output pickups. Good for metal type things. They also require batteries, because they have a built-in preamp.

Duncan-designed humbuckers are going to be More versatile i would imagine. More traditional. Both kinds will play the kind of music it seems you want to play. read about them here. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/duncan-designed/) Keep in mind that they are essentially the bargain version, and probably are not made to the same quality as the American-made Duncans, though i have not read any reviews for them.

^thanks!^
it seems the duncan designed will be good for me to start with, then if i want to swap them out, or buy a different guitar i can at a later date....

It's a shame you bought a NJ series B.C. Rich, cause some of their newer stuff (Exotic class mockingbird, Perfect 10 Bich, ST mockingbird) actually seem pretty nice. They're some of the only guitar's you can get new under a grand now, with ebony fretboards. It kinda seems like they've started to realize that their old pointy guitars are kinda crap.

I love the les pauls. if i was gonna spend around 1500 and up i would go for a gibson... but.

I am repeatedly told the quality is hit and miss on epiphone LP's. and since I would have to order my guitar (lefty) i could get a great one, or a pile o shit!

and since i dont really need the ULTIMATE METAL GUITAR just some thing to tool around on and learn with... I've darn near settled on a C-1... unless someone else can point me at a reputable guitar for under a grand that DOESNT require a 50/50 gamble?

It's a shame you got one of the NJ series B.C. Rich's, some of their newer stuff (Exotic Class Mockingbird, Perfect 10 Bich, ST Mockingbird) actually seems pretty nice. Some of the only guitars under a grand you can get with ebony fingerboards. Seems like they're starting to remember why people bought their guitars in the first place.
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Post by: edwinalink on 14 May 2009, 11:35
The easy way to tell whether or not emg's are active is if they don't say hz on them. All the hz's are passive, and are more commonly put on lower-end guitars, rather than the usually used set of active 81's and 85's. I believe that ALL EMG's are made in the USA, where as i'm pretty sure that the Duncan Designed ones are import manufacture, so I would feel that the EMG's would be a nicer pickup, and would fit what you're trying to play better. They are both actually fairly versatile, even though emg's do cater to the high gain market more, because the active one's have the ability to handle so much gain.

thanks! I think i may have seen a few of the EMG-hz's on what I'm looking at...and the powered ones arent a dealbreaker either!
and as long as i can play clean, mellow mopey stuff with them too... that's all i need!

and back to the Warlock bashing... i tried playing smoke on the water...sounded like

BUZZZ, BUZZ-BUZZ BUUUUZZZZZZ BUZZZ. BUZZ BUZZ in the sky..

god i hate that thing, not that smoke on the water normally sounds all that good...but it at least has notes!

edit... @Zerobar: its OLD now! still has the split headstock! and they may get better, but i couldnt afford a new guitar after buying that POS. and have had to wait for like 4 years to get another guitar i could actually practice on! so now me and B.C. Rich dont mix.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 14 May 2009, 12:23
Here's a picture of that guitar I put together:

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9890/img3806.jpg)
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Post by: ledhendrix on 14 May 2009, 12:28
That looks nice. What do all the switches do?
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Post by: BlahBlah on 14 May 2009, 12:43
The three in the middle turn each pickup on or off. The one on the far right switches from in phase to out of phase, and the other end switch changes from series to parallel circuits. Like this: http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm

However, I only discovered after building it that I missed out a capacitor, so the switching is really messed up. The tone knobs now function as volume knobs, but depending on whether you're in series or parallel mode they have to be turned in different directions.  It sounds pretty awesome/strange/horrible. I think Patrick would cream himself over it, based on his comments about single-coil guitars and the Jaguar he already has.
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Post by: zerobar on 14 May 2009, 15:19
Cool, how's the intonation on it? I kinda figured you had bought a kit, but this looks like it probably would work better. I love putting together old "parts" guitars, they usually end up sounding really cool, and they always look interesting. Kramer, among other companies, did a similar style pickup switching on their guitars in the mid to late 80's by having an on/off switch for each pickup, and then a coil splitting switch for the bridge humbucker. They used it primarily on their Pacer series and the Focus 6000's, which were japanese made Pacer copies (great deals, if you find one.) The Focus' were all made by ESP, who ended up making all of Kramer's necks from about 86' on (which are AMAZING).
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Post by: Patrick on 16 May 2009, 17:24
I think Patrick would cream himself over it, based on his comments about single-coil guitars and the Jaguar he already has.

I just saw this thread for the first time in several days (been busy) but yeah, if you ever let me chill at your place or something, you will probably never see this guitar in person ever again.
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Post by: Bearer on 18 May 2009, 22:00
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Andy_jag.jpg)

Alas, it is but a photoshop guitar.   Three pickups (neck: P-90; mid: single coil; bridge: Humbucker), neck and bridge wired to telecaster three-way switch with middle wired to a blender pot. Master volume knob, master tone knob, and top it off with a Bigsby, tune-o-matic bridge with rolling saddles and locking tuning heads.  Mmmm.
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Post by: Ballard on 18 May 2009, 22:14
That is pretty sexy.

Side note: I have rarely seen different kinds of pick-ups look good together (with the exception of the Standard, Hot Rod, and Custom configurations on various Teles)

That one isn't bad but like, I like the symmetry that comes with all single-coils or all 'buckers or soapbars.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 May 2009, 03:22
Why don't you just take a Mustang bridge and leave a regular old Jag trem on there? A Bigsby is actually a downgrade in terms of functionality.

Does that switch go 7 ways? I hope it does. I have Ideas for it.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 19 May 2009, 03:37
"telecaster three-way switch"

I didn't know you could even get 7-way switches.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 May 2009, 04:24
Oh, it looked like a Varitone-style switch. Those are 6-way switches, I figured there might be a 7-way Varitone-style switch available somewhere in the world.
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Post by: zerobar on 23 May 2009, 01:06
So I'm REALLY considering putting the Coronet project on hold, for now, and spending my money on a MIJ Contemporary Strat my local shop has. They're marking down, and it's really nice. Plus, those 80's MIJ strats are supposed to be better than the American ones, of the same time. Rumor is, that's why they quit importing them from Japan. It's royal blue with a maple neck and fretboard. The previous owner replaced the frets with jumbos, which I actually like. Thoughts?
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Post by: Bearer on 24 May 2009, 17:37
So I'm REALLY considering putting the Coronet project on hold, for now, and spending my money on a MIJ Contemporary Strat my local shop has. They're marking down, and it's really nice. Plus, those 80's MIJ strats are supposed to be better than the American ones, of the same time. Rumor is, that's why they quit importing them from Japan. It's royal blue with a maple neck and fretboard. The previous owner replaced the frets with jumbos, which I actually like. Thoughts?
quoted for truth.  My dad has an 80's MIJ Squier Strat and it's better than a few American Fenders I've played.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 May 2009, 07:52
The 80s MIJ Squiers were pretty much the quality you get out of Fender Japan these days.

(read: GOOD)
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 25 May 2009, 22:04
What exactly does wiring your pickups out of phase do? I've never heard of that outside of this thread.
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Post by: Bearer on 26 May 2009, 09:31
Wired out of phase gives the difference between the two pickups.  However, if you were to do this on a guitar with two similar pickups (like a telecaster) the sound would usually be very nasally and nearly unuseable.  Out of phase is best used in a guitar with different pickups.  I have a telecaster with a mini-humbucker in the neck position and a push/pull volume knob that changes the phase, and the sound I get from throwing it out of phase is really qui9te nice.  Very chimey and quacky, kind of like positions 2&4 on a strat.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 May 2009, 13:43
ok, so I've no money to spend on it but after I get the warmoth neck I want on my MIM Tele, what (non-trem) bridge shouyld I go for. I'm looking for lo-fi, inexpensive and solid reliable. My tele does not have the string through thingees. Also I am likely to opt for P-Rails for my pickup choice.
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Post by: Chad K. on 26 May 2009, 14:16
Wilkinson compensated is about $30 and gets rave reviews from tele purists.  Try http://www.guitarfetish.com

Edit:  Here's the direct link, but look around that site if you haven't; it's good stuff- http://store.guitarfetish.com/wicotebrbrsa.html
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Post by: doombilly on 27 May 2009, 06:22
Looks great, but would I not have to mod that to fit the bridge P-Rail?
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Post by: greenMonkey on 27 May 2009, 20:00
There is a possibility that I will be picking up a Fender Champ 600 for college.  Dano+Boss Super Overdrive+Champ 600= WIN.
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Post by: zerobar on 27 May 2009, 21:02
Looks great, but would I not have to mod that to fit the bridge P-Rail?

Yeah, it wouldn't fit in a wilkinson bridge. You'd either have to use a standard fender hardtail, a tunomatic with stop tail (though drilling for string through really wouldn't be that hard) or something like this: http://store.guitarfetish.com/chhubrforteg.html

I know it's not pretty, but you'd get better intonation than the wilkinson.

Is your body routed for a humbucker already?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 May 2009, 06:03
What are you guys' opinion on MODboards? I've never tried them so i want to know.
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Post by: doombilly on 28 May 2009, 08:37
Is your body routed for a humbucker already?

No I am going from memory that the cavities neck cavity seemed pretty large... But yeah now that you mention it that would require some routing for the hbuckerss, no?

edit...also
Um....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3565068502_3e14cb5805_o.jpg
Looks like you should have a neck coming out the front and the back.
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Post by: zerobar on 28 May 2009, 09:55
^haha, well, to be fair, I don't know how else you could put a trapese bridge on a BillyBo.

If you just have a regular tele route, you will need to route for a humbucker, including cavities for the "wings." It's honestly not SUPER important that the route be PERFECT, since alot of small mistakes will be covered by the bridge or pickguard. Just make sure you don't go beyond either of them.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 28 May 2009, 10:06
Someone gave me an old Johnson acoustic/electric guitar with no hardware (just the body and neck) and it's fairly beat up. So I filled in some of the bigger gouges with wood filler, spray-painted it silver, and drew on it and put song lyrics on it and now it just looks happily strange.

It used to be black, then someone spray-painted it this hideous pink/purple and it made me throw up a little in my mouth. Now it has Billy Joe Shaver and John Lennon lyrics on it.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 28 May 2009, 13:57
I just got a Big White Monkey 5W Kong Head! I can't wait for it to arrive.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 May 2009, 14:59
I played a handmade Collings acoustic last night. The guy who owned it replaced the bone saddle with a piece of unspecified wood (truth be told, I think it was just a piece of fucking driftwood), and I'll be damned if that wasn't the best-sounding acoustic I've ever heard. It also played like the gods.

Update: it was this guy, with a cutaway: http://www.collingsguitars.com/Instruments/?ID=9
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Post by: Babpacih on 28 May 2009, 18:51
hello all. so heres some pics of my stuff... since that seems to be the order of the topic.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/babpacih/waka%20waka%20waka/IMG_4373.jpg?t=1243559922)
the current playing rig... fenderbassman, gibson les paul studio.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/babpacih/waka%20waka%20waka/IMG_4372.jpg?t=1243559920)
Fender DG-8S NAT, Ibanez Stagestar, Fender Tele, Oscar Schmidt

i have one more guitar than in the pics, its a Crate Electra. i lent it to a friend to learn guitar on. its covered in stickers, ill try to find a pic later.
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Post by: negative creep on 28 May 2009, 19:02
Nice! What is the pedal in the first picture? Boss SD-1?
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Post by: Babpacih on 28 May 2009, 19:57
Thanks yo,
its a Boss OS-2, the other one is a Zoom 505II
its a cool pedal, though i bought it with the tele more in mind.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 May 2009, 23:04
Holy silverface Bassman, Batman!
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Post by: imapiratearg on 29 May 2009, 08:37
That's what I thought.  I stared at it for a full two minutes.

It's a thing of beauty.
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Post by: Chad K. on 29 May 2009, 09:31
Is that a 2x12 or 2x15 cab?
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Post by: Babpacih on 29 May 2009, 12:02
yeah its a really sweet amp. VERY loud. ive never played louder than almost 4 with a band. it could use power tubes. next birthday present!
i honestly have no idea if the cabs 2x12 or 2x15. the place i got it from had no info on it. but ill check if you know how to find out.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 May 2009, 15:16
Tape measure over one of the speakers.
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Post by: Babpacih on 29 May 2009, 15:49
i was goin for not taking it apart.
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 29 May 2009, 19:59
Ok guys, so I like guitar, but I know shit all about pedals and the like. What's a really good fuzz pedal that's out there?
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Post by: Tehz on 29 May 2009, 20:08
I started out with an EHX Big Muff, and I think that everyone who's looking for a good starter fuzz should start with the same.
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Post by: Tehz on 29 May 2009, 20:12
Oh and also, I had a realization today. I went to a local guitar place and played literally close to two dozen guitars, and I dunno what was going on but I couldn't find one that I could really bond with. I went home and sat down with my CIJ Jazzmaster and it felt like home, it felt and sounded perfect to me. In fact, one of the few guitars that I did play at the store that I almost connected with was an Elvis Costello Jazzy.

I think I'm gonna start to be just like Kevin Shields or Thurston Moore and just start buying and playing nothing but a variety of Jazzmasters. For me, they're pretty much the perfect instrument, and it took me until today to fully realize that.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 29 May 2009, 21:16
Jazzmasters are pretty wonderful.

I still love a good tele though.  And by a good tele I mean this one. (http://www.glguitars.com/Tribute/instruments/pics/large/GLTS_ASAT_Classic_BBSH_CLRORG_MP.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 May 2009, 04:12
That is one weirdass headstock.
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Post by: Caspian on 30 May 2009, 17:18
On an amplification related note; just got pro tools, and I gotta say I'm really impressed by how decent the SansAmp plug in is. Granted it's not terribly amazing at doing semi-clean tones, but since I pretty much never need a semi clean tones it's no big deal. It's great for wall of sound type stuff and for tones with no sort of distortion or break up, although this could possibly be because I'm playing a Les Paul and it could sound awesome played through a telephone line.

If anyone could  a) recommend me some other good amp sims (thinking of getting Digidesign's Eleven), or b) tell me places where I can "acquire" amp sims for free off the internet then that would be great.
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Post by: Ballard on 30 May 2009, 19:48
That cab looks like a 4x10. If it's an open cab you can still measure the speakers from the back if you care enough to bother.

Jazzmasters are pretty wonderful.

I still love a good tele though.  And by a good tele I mean this one. (http://www.glguitars.com/Tribute/instruments/pics/large/GLTS_ASAT_Classic_BBSH_CLRORG_MP.jpg)

That's not even a Tele, silly.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 May 2009, 20:01
It's a tele, but not a telecaster. Besides, I'm pretty sure Leo designed the damn thing for g&l anyways. might be wrong about that, though.
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Post by: Babpacih on 30 May 2009, 21:14
the tele was by leo for fender.
first called the esquire, then the broadcaster, then the telecaster.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 May 2009, 21:17
That cab looks like a 4x10. If it's an open cab you can still measure the speakers from the back if you care enough to bother.

Jazzmasters are pretty wonderful.

I still love a good tele though.  And by a good tele I mean this one. (http://www.glguitars.com/Tribute/instruments/pics/large/GLTS_ASAT_Classic_BBSH_CLRORG_MP.jpg)

That's not even a Tele, silly.

That is most definitely not a 4x10.  You can see the two speakers set diagonally; my guess is a 2x12.

And though it is not a Telecaster, it counts as a tele in my book because a) it's styled after the tele body, neck, headstock, etc., and b) Leo Fender designed it.  G & L is basically Fender+.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 May 2009, 07:16
Yeah, but for all purposeful reasons it's an ASAT. Though I believe when G&L first started, he went with "Broadcaster". To which Gretsch (and Fender) went "Dude Leo, you tried that like 40 years ago, remember? NO."
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Post by: Cernunnos on 31 May 2009, 07:42
Whatever the case, I really would like to have that guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 May 2009, 08:16
Ughhhhhh I've been listening to so much Weezer lately. My current GAS: build a clone of one of Rivers' hardtail Stratclones (either the first daphne blue one or the blonde one).
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Post by: Metope on 01 Jun 2009, 06:31
You know what guitar i like the best?
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Post by: Metope on 01 Jun 2009, 06:32
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e263/blooper663/il_430xN68917530.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e263/blooper663/il_430xN68917470.jpg)
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Post by: BlahBlah on 01 Jun 2009, 06:46
Wow. Just, wow.
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Post by: Tyler on 01 Jun 2009, 07:09
I would serve pizza on that.
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Post by: Babpacih on 01 Jun 2009, 08:04
the tuning pegs on that make me wet.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Jun 2009, 11:43
It probably has great sustain.
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Post by: edwinalink on 01 Jun 2009, 12:20
I wonder if she likes miniature golf...
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Post by: GenericName on 01 Jun 2009, 12:21
Reminds me of the guitar I painted, if only for the similar sectioning off.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 12:50
That is either a really thick neck, really small body, or both.

I'm curious what kind of alternate tunings y'all like to use? Lately I've been using EBEG#BE (Open E), FADGBE, and BFDGBE.

I need a damn seven string guitar.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jun 2009, 12:59
Guys, I think that after I buy that hollowbody off of the really rad dude from OSG, I'm going to get a Tele neck, get all the electronics and shit, and make Guitar Mill make me a butterscotch blonde body out of pine.

I basically don't think I'd ever need another hardtail guitar after that. Then add a Strat to the mix, buy back my old SG (my friend says he'll sell her back to me!), and I will be done collecting guitars.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 01 Jun 2009, 13:02
That is either a really thick neck, really small body, or both.

I'm curious what kind of alternate tunings y'all like to use? Lately I've been using EBEG#BE (Open E), FADGBE, and BFDGBE.

I need a damn seven string guitar.


The Pavement ones:

DADABe and CGDGBE (also used by Sonic Youth)

My guitar is probably in those more than Standard.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Jun 2009, 13:19
done collecting guitars.

that's not how it works
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Post by: Tehz on 01 Jun 2009, 14:37
I'm a fan of F#F#F#F#BE. This was used on a lot of my favorite SY songs, so it's fun experimenting with it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 14:47
Which way do you tune your D string? Really taut, or really loose?

Mm. That would produce very nice fret buzz.
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 01 Jun 2009, 17:01
Question: For alternate tunings that require strings to be raised a lot higher or lower than there normal pitch, what do you do? Is there a special way to de-tune or tune-up strings to drastically different pitches without beaking them, or do you replace them with thicker or thinner strings?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 17:10
For drastically lower, I keep the original string, as I like a bit of fret buzz, to be honest. I have songs where the low E string is tuned down to B or even A.

As for higher...the most I trust a string is a step and a half, and that's a bit much. After that I'd try swapping it in for a higher string (that is, replace an A string with a D) and tuning it how you need, instead.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jun 2009, 17:12
done collecting guitars.

that's not how it works

I want to have at least one year where I am fully, completely content with my life. If that means fooling myself, so be it.

I still want that fucking pine Tele.
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Post by: Tehz on 01 Jun 2009, 18:11
Which way do you tune your D string? Really taut, or really loose?

Mm. That would produce very nice fret buzz.

Really taut. I always cringe when I'm tuning it up, it feels like it's on the verge of snapping every time.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 20:00
That's the point where I'd stick another G-string on in place of the D-string, if I could be bothered.

I've got one tuning I use for a few covers (Suite: Judy Blue Eyes and Paint it, Black, notably) which is E E E E B E . . . and I tune the D string DOWN to E...
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Post by: Lummer on 02 Jun 2009, 09:49
I have actually tuned my RG7321 up a step. It works really well, with a 9-54 D'addario set.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Jun 2009, 17:04
You know, I am pretty upset. I had to shim my Jag's neck today, and I'll be goddamned if I can't read the date stamp on the body. The neck stamp says FEB 6-7 07, and the body one says JAN(illegible)07, so I'm guessing that my body was made in January, but another thing I also saw on the neck was a big dark stamp that said "Valtierra."

I don't know what the hell it is supposed to mean but I googled it and didn't find anything so I emailed Fender about it. My suspicion is that the sack of shit who sold me the thing did an even shit-sackier thing and gave me a bogus neck.

If that's the case I am kicking him in the dick.
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 Jun 2009, 00:27
If that's the case I am kicking him in the dick.

thats the first time I've heard that phrase... when it wasnt being muttered... by a woman... to her friend... about me.

anyhoo. i need more guitar porn, for uh... "research..."

i do so love seeing pic's of all you's guy'ses guitar kit.... :-D

HELPS ME PLAN.
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Post by: Ballard on 03 Jun 2009, 00:36
There's no way you've already read through 92 pages. Try harder!
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 Jun 2009, 02:04
There's no way you've already read through 92 pages. Try harder!
read? READ????

WELL ONE, I have been here a while...

and two... I didnt read 92 pages, I looked for interesting pics in 92 pages, then read the discussions around the ones i liked... so in truth, I've looked at all 92 pages, but read maybe 30!

...I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed... but at least I'm a tool. :-(
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 05 Jun 2009, 10:34
anyhoo. i need more guitar porn, for uh... "research..."

i do so love seeing pic's of all you's guy'ses guitar kit.... :-D

HELPS ME PLAN.

Think I can help you with that. First summer project down. Body is from about an 83' Kramer Focus 3000, the bridge is a Gotoh Floyd (Ibanez Edge, essentially), the neck is a Mighty Mite Licensed Fender, the bridge pickup is a Dimarzio Super Distortion and the neck pickup is a PAF copy.

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1543/dscf0392x.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0392x.jpg)
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6731/dscf0393z.th.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0393z.jpg)
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6506/dscf0394f.th.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0394f.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Jun 2009, 13:47
That thing is Epic, reverse headstocks on strats look so good. How much did the parts cost?
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Post by: edwinalink on 05 Jun 2009, 13:58
seriously! I'm not a big fender fan, but that things all sorts of goodness!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Jun 2009, 19:30
Guys I think the hollowbody whores in this here thread have all overlooked a pretty incredible axe:

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/3/1/270031.jpg)

I am selling my fake Les Paul to a friend to finance this. The tuners have got to go since the gear ratio is a bit too close for my tastes, but holy shit. I played this in a guitar shop today and after about 10 minutes I told the guy to hold onto it for me.

The finish on the one I played today was significantly more tasteful in appearance (as was the flame maple, which was much more subtle), this photo does not do it justice by any stretch.
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Post by: zerobar on 05 Jun 2009, 20:59
That thing is Epic, reverse headstocks on strats look so good. How much did the parts cost?

Let's see,
Neck $100
Body $30
Bridge $170
Tuners $40
Pickups $110
Misc Parts $50

Total = approx $500

This project was in, let's say, in production for about a year, so most of the parts were spread out over time. I'm most impressed by both the body and pickups. The neck pickup was actually a bridge one i had intended to use on another guitar and never did, so it's got ALOT more output than a regular neck PAF. Both of them thus have an OBSCENE amount of balls, but still get good tone. The body, like all of the Focus series Kramers from the 80's was made by ESP in Japan, so I basically got a top shelf body, for $30. I like the neck, more than I expected, but I still like the feel of the late 80's Kramer "pointy" neck on my other Kramer/Fender hybrid a little better. Their profiles are actually really similar, with the Kramer being thinner and wider at the nut, but both being about the same at the heel end, it's just SOO damn hard to get them with maple boards. I'm thinking of nicknaming them the "devil' and "angel" since it seems fitting, considering their looks.

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9047/dscf0396j.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0396j.jpg)

^What brand guitar is that? Looks like an Ebony board. More and more companies have started using it again, which, frankly makes PRS's bullheadedness against using it in ANY of their guitars look ridiculous.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 Jun 2009, 22:10
Gorgeous fucking 335-style guitar.

FUCK YOOOOOUUUUUU

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Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 05:18
Patrick, aren't you already buying Pat's 345 clone?
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Jun 2009, 05:47

Gorgeous fucking 335-style guitar.

What is it. Not a fan of any flamey tops m'self- but just curious in general.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 07:24
That, sir, is a Peavey. Under US$300. I'm actually paying 240 euros for it. I don't know how I get so lucky when it comes to cheap guitars like that.

Shane, I'm selling my fake Les Paul to buy it. I'm still getting that 345 clone. But holy fuckbat, to have a semi- AND a hollowbody?
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 08:02
Dude, seriously. All you need now is a Deluxe Reverb and you have the cleanest cleans you will ever hear.

Maybe if we ever move in together, we should go halfsies on a Silverface DR.


Guys, I'm really GASing for an acoustic right now. I will get one this summer at some point. That Fender Tim Armstrong signature acou/electric is great, but Epiphone's now come out with their version of Gibson's Hummingbird Artist model. I think it looks rad as fuck, how awesome do Hummingbirds sound (awesome), and it's $2,000 cheaper than the Gibson ($300).

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/2/3/591423.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 08:29
No chance, man, I don't ever want a vintage amp because I would play it loud and probably blow the speakers and you know how I am about preserving vintage gear.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 08:32
Dog, it's 22 watts. Shit gets pretty loud? Do you not remember the story about the guy in the store? "IS LOUD, KEEP IT UNDER 4. UNDER 4, OKAY?!?!"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 08:58
The killer for that: no effects loop. It's why I want that 60w Blues DeVille 4x10. Built-in, footswitchable spring reverb and 2 footswitchable channels, with a 'bright' switch for the clean channel (not like I'd ever need a 'bright' switch when I have a damn Jaguar, which doesn't even need the bright switch that it has). The 4 speakers will give me the volume, the high wattage will give me enough clean headroom that I will probably never need a bigger amp.

I mean seriously, if you've got a venue big enough to make 60 watts of tube amp sound quiet, the place shouldn't even be open unless it's got a PA.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 06 Jun 2009, 09:47
That, sir, is a Peavey.

For the record, I own (and have owned) a metric shit ton of guitars and my absolute favorite one of all is a used Peavey my wife bought me on a whim.  Absolutely love it, and am thinking about buying more. 
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Post by: imapiratearg on 06 Jun 2009, 09:52
The killer for that: no effects loop. It's why I want that 60w Blues DeVille 4x10. Built-in, footswitchable spring reverb and 2 footswitchable channels, with a 'bright' switch for the clean channel (not like I'd ever need a 'bright' switch when I have a damn Jaguar, which doesn't even need the bright switch that it has).

The drive channel is pretty much useless those amps, though.  The distortion is pretty "meh," unless you can put some kind of EQ or Sonic Maximizer pedal in front of it.  The clean channel is fantastic, though.  Bright and punchy.  It sounds great with a dirt box, too.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 17:25
Hm, if the dirt channel sounds like a louder version of the Blues Deluxe's dirt channel, I actually really love that sound. I am rarely into super-saturated distortion, I've really got little use for it. It's like the word "shitcunt". Sure, you could use it all the time, but after a while, people's ears get used to it. I only use it when I am really, REALLY pissed.

Edit for clarity: I only use DISTORTION if I am really pissed. I say "shitcunt" all the time.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Jun 2009, 18:12
I have the Hotrod DeVille 410, and if you want a distorted driven tone you are going to need a pedal(s).  But, I don't play metal so it's all good.  If I did I wouldn't have bought it.  Also, the clean channel with reverb is tits on ice cream.
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Post by: zerobar on 06 Jun 2009, 20:42
That, sir, is a Peavey.

For the record, I own (and have owned) a metric shit ton of guitars and my absolute favorite one of all is a used Peavey my wife bought me on a whim.  Absolutely love it, and am thinking about buying more. 

Peavey's are awesome deals. Seriously where else can you find an American made guitar for under $200? I own a few Peaveys and, with the exception of the Vandenberg (which I would consider a collectible) I never paid over $175 for any of them. The one glaring weakness that I found in them, though, was how astoundingly bad the pickups where. But, big flippin' deal, I paid $150, buy some new pickups and you still have something that will kick the ever living crap out of any Korean guitar out there, for less money.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2009, 08:42
Uh the sticker on this one said "Made In China"
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 Jun 2009, 09:05
I have the Hotrod DeVille 410, and if you want a distorted driven tone you are going to need a pedal(s).  But, I don't play metal so it's all good.  If I did I wouldn't have bought it.  Also, the clean channel with reverb is tits on ice cream.

Yeah, this is exactly what I tried to say.  I'm sure you can get the drive channels to sound nice with some tinkering.
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Post by: jeph on 07 Jun 2009, 18:56
OH SHIT BITCHES

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/telefinished.jpg[/img]

Should have it soon. Will post more pixxx and sound clips.
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Post by: Tehz on 07 Jun 2009, 19:07
Hol-ee shit!

Check out those scissors! What brand do you think they are, I haven't seen scissor craftsmanship that good since my days as a ISQIA (International Scissor Quality Inspection Agent). Ohhhh man I can only imagine what the blades must be like  :-o
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 07 Jun 2009, 19:17
I want a Tele. =(
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Post by: greenMonkey on 07 Jun 2009, 21:21
I am pretty much for sure getting a Fender Champ 600!  I m trading my friend a college bicycle for it.  I've actually been playing it for a while because he left it at my house; Dano + Boss Super Overdrive + Low Gain plugin= pure sex.
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Post by: Bearer on 07 Jun 2009, 21:29
Wow, that is one nice looking tele.  I am actually really curious as to how that middle setting sounds.  How much did that sucker set you back if I may ask?
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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Jun 2009, 00:59
that is how youdo guitar porn... right there!
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Post by: Chad K. on 08 Jun 2009, 03:54
Damn, Jeph.  What a sexy gee-tar.  I couldn't figure out what was weird looking about that tele (other than that the pickup configuration doesn't exist in nature) and then I realized that the electronics are set up backwards with the blade away from your hand.  Brilliant. I hate hitting that fucker on my tele and suddenly wondering where the bass in my tone went. 

Also,  I love minihumbuckers in the neck of teles (or any guitar really).  I haven't tried a humbucker in the bridge, mostly because I hate the look of '72s, but I would imagine it solves the problem that most teles suffer from of having a tinny sounding useless bridge pickup .  I know, I know- that's supposed to be the tele "spank," but gawd I hate it. 

Good deal.  I hope you enjoy it!
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2009, 07:28
Fuck you, Jeph. Fuck you SO HARD for having a guitar that I want, even though it is not actually there yet.
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Post by: Ballard on 08 Jun 2009, 08:50
I just recently got a job so as soon as I've got $1600 saved up I am getting a fucking '52 Tele and that is that god dammit.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jun 2009, 09:10
That is a purty ole barn door, yessir. What is the bridge?
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2009, 09:38
It would appear to be a reg'lur ol' three-saddle Telecaster bridge, sir.
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Post by: jeph on 08 Jun 2009, 17:10
Damn, Jeph.  What a sexy gee-tar.  I couldn't figure out what was weird looking about that tele (other than that the pickup configuration doesn't exist in nature) and then I realized that the electronics are set up backwards with the blade away from your hand.  Brilliant. I hate hitting that fucker on my tele and suddenly wondering where the bass in my tone went.

Yeah, it's one of my favorite little tricks that Creston does. WAY more useful, especially if you use your volume knob a lot.

The pickups are Lollars, which from everything I've read are essentially the best around. The bridge is a vintage-style Tele bridge, with old-skool brass saddles, and it's a toploader because Creston hates how most string-through-body guitars play and I do too.

I might have it by the end of the week  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Jun 2009, 19:48
I hate string thru guitars

why? might I ask? I'm looking at one (a schecter) right now... thats why i ask.
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Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 03:36
They tend to have really stiff action and are often not as stable tuning-wise because of the high tension of the strings behind the bridge saddles. This is the same reason you shouldn't drop the stop-tail too far below the bridge itself on Gibson guitars (particularly Les Pauls, because the carved top means you can make an even sharper angle than on an SG/Flying V/etc.)

Besides, the only real reason you'd want string-through body is for "snap" and "sustain," and you get more of both of those via the guitar's scale length, wood composition, and pickups than you do from how tightly the strings are bent over the bridge.

Finally: the reason a lot of Korean and Chinese made guitars (like most Schecters, LTDs, cheaper Ibanezes, etc.) have string-through body bridges is that running the strings through the body into ferrules is cheaper than installing a proper gibson style tailpiece. It has nothing to do with tone or playability and everything to do with saving 75 cents' worth of metal.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jun 2009, 08:51
I'm toying with the Idea of swapping out the bridge on my tele. Its a mexican standard and its only a year or two old ( I bought it new last summer, never checked the manufacturing date), so its got the "modern" style bridge with six saddles. Would buying a wilkinson compensated bridge and using it as a top-laoder make that big of a difference in tone and/or sustain, and if not, would buying a six-saddle "vintage" style make a difference?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Jun 2009, 10:29
Besides, the only real reason you'd want string-through body is for "snap" and "sustain," and you get more of both of those via the guitar's scale length, wood composition, and pickups than you do from how tightly the strings are bent over the bridge.

Gotta beg to differ here, just on principle. The energy being transferred into your bridge is directly translated into energy being transferred into the wood of the body, and that directly affects how much sustain you're gonna get. And if you've got a disgustingly obtuse break angle, you're not gonna get much. That only really applies to Jag players like me, though. Once you get an angle steeper than 170 degrees (well, hey-o, would you look at that, that's every other guitar design ever), you're absolutely right.

Although top-loading bridges are such a pain in the ass to re-string (at least in my experience), I don't know how you'll stand it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 12:24
I'm toying with the Idea of swapping out the bridge on my tele. Its a mexican standard and its only a year or two old ( I bought it new last summer, never checked the manufacturing date), so its got the "modern" style bridge with six saddles. Would buying a wilkinson compensated bridge and using it as a top-laoder make that big of a difference in tone and/or sustain, and if not, would buying a six-saddle "vintage" style make a difference?

If anything, the Wilkinson should IMPROVE the tone, but unless you're planning on putting a different kind of pickup in the bridge, why bother changing it? Tele bridges are made to house Tele pickups.

If you want to improve the tone of your guitar, swap out the shitty mexican pickups for some decent Seymour Duncans before you go messing about with the bridge.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 12:28
Besides, the only real reason you'd want string-through body is for "snap" and "sustain," and you get more of both of those via the guitar's scale length, wood composition, and pickups than you do from how tightly the strings are bent over the bridge.

Gotta beg to differ here, just on principle. The energy being transferred into your bridge is directly translated into energy being transferred into the wood of the body, and that directly affects how much sustain you're gonna get. And if you've got a disgustingly obtuse break angle, you're not gonna get much. That only really applies to Jag players like me, though. Once you get an angle steeper than 170 degrees (well, hey-o, would you look at that, that's every other guitar design ever), you're absolutely right.

Although top-loading bridges are such a pain in the ass to re-string (at least in my experience), I don't know how you'll stand it.

I own a guitar with a Floyd Rose. Everything is less of a pain in the ass than that.

If you want an ULTIMATE GUITAR NIGHTMARE, try re-intonating a Floyd Rose. There is literally no way to adjust the bridge saddles while they have strings on them. So you take the string off, make an adjustment, put the string back on (and remember this requires tightening and untightening at least a couple hex heads as well as the tuning pegs), check the tuning, repeat 1000x until you either guess right or get frustrated and give up. Oh and by adjusting the string length you're ALSO messing with the stability of the trem springs, so you also have to adjust THOSE, which is MORE trial and error.
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Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 12:31
TRIPLEPOST COMBO 1000 POINTS!

My Creston will be here TOMORROW. Pants: shat
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Jun 2009, 12:33
Your tales of the Rose are giving me the chills jeph, stop it
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Jun 2009, 12:35
Man at least you don't have to take the whole neck off just to make 1/8 turn on your truss rod. I swear I'd slap Leo for that if he wasn't dead.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jun 2009, 12:47
The bridge on my '95 Mexi Tele is made out of sh*t that was eaten and then sh*t out again by the same pack of diseased chihuahuas at a chihuahua canine mental health facility. Which is pretty much what started me on the path of researching good replacements. Those sh&tty pickups are going too. And the neck. So basically I'll keep the body. Which is red. So I am actually contemplating going black with all the hardware, black sperzels, pickups, and pickguard. And an ebony fretboard. With just the white side markers dots. But then I should probably get the headstock painted either red or black...or not do anything.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 09 Jun 2009, 13:10
Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jun 2009, 13:26
I'm toying with the Idea of swapping out the bridge on my tele. Its a mexican standard and its only a year or two old ( I bought it new last summer, never checked the manufacturing date), so its got the "modern" style bridge with six saddles. Would buying a wilkinson compensated bridge and using it as a top-laoder make that big of a difference in tone and/or sustain, and if not, would buying a six-saddle "vintage" style make a difference?

If anything, the Wilkinson should IMPROVE the tone, but unless you're planning on putting a different kind of pickup in the bridge, why bother changing it? Tele bridges are made to house Tele pickups.

If you want to improve the tone of your guitar, swap out the shitty mexican pickups for some decent Seymour Duncans before you go messing about with the bridge.

First thing I did with the thing was put Lace Sensors in it. One step ahead of you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 09 Jun 2009, 13:32
Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.

What two kinds?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 09 Jun 2009, 13:34
The Classic Player: http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/79098 and the '62 reissue: http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/fender-jazz-master-62/8219
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 09 Jun 2009, 20:07
Honestly, both are pretty quality instruments. When it comes right down to it though, you should play them and see if you prefer them to your Strat; Jazzmasters seem to be an acquired taste for a lot of people.

If you do play and like them though, I heartily recommend it. Jazzmasters are my favorite guitar and I love mine to death.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 00:25
The bridge on my '95 Mexi Tele is made out of sh*t that was eaten and then sh*t out again by the same pack of diseased chihuahuas at a chihuahua canine mental health facility. Which is pretty much what started me on the path of researching good replacements. Those sh&tty pickups are going too. And the neck. So basically I'll keep the body. Which is red. So I am actually contemplating going black with all the hardware, black sperzels, pickups, and pickguard. And an ebony fretboard. With just the white side markers dots. But then I should probably get the headstock painted either red or black...or not do anything.

If you're making that many replacements, you might wanna tally up the cost and see if it'd be cheaper just to buy a new, better Telecaster.

Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.

Absolutely play the Jazzmaster(s) before you sell the Strat. The "classic player" model is a little better built in that they fixed some of the problems endemic to vintage-spec Jazzmasters, but it's really up to you. Personally I think they have a little more personality and a lot more oomph than Strats, although they don't tend to be as tuning-stable. But whatever- if it's good enough for J. Mascis and My Bloody Valentine it's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: StaedlerMars on 10 Jun 2009, 02:37
So my Yamaha beginner guitar is spluttering and constantly getting out of tune, and the selector switch stops working half of the time. This should be a hint to me that I need a new guitar.

However, I don't have much money at all to my name so those 'fancy' guitars are out of the question. On the topic of Jazzmasters, I would love one, and I love the sound, but like I said, I definitely can't afford it.

So I guess it comes down to: what's the word on the squier jagmaster? Any other suggestions for about that price range. I realize I'm not going to get a fantastic guitar for that price range, but it would mainly be a temporary thing (read: 6 months to a year) before I make some decent money to be able to sink into it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Jun 2009, 08:02
Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.

The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken. Fender Japan is supposed to be almost as good if not just as good as American fenders, but cheaper of course. I'd try and find one used if I were  you, since Fender just raised their prices like 30%. (A thousand bucks for a Mexican Thinline=criminal)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Jun 2009, 10:01
If you're making that many replacements, you might wanna tally up the cost and see if it'd be cheaper just to buy a new, better Telecaster.
Well I am kind of doing it for kicks and to learn stuff. And this is kind of my way to get it my way. But It will be a while in this economy before I can do feck all. Thanks for the advice though. JJ.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2009, 12:01
The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken.

Mexico. Fender Japan doesn't export to the U.S. due to legal restrictions.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Jun 2009, 12:29
Really? I thought for sure those black HH's were Fender Japan. Bastards at Guitar Center need to learn their shit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Jun 2009, 13:15
Really? I thought for sure those black HH's were Fender Japan. Bastards at Guitar Center need to learn their shit.
Oh jeez, if they open their mouths just walk away from them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 10 Jun 2009, 13:17
The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken.

Mexico. Fender Japan doesn't export to the U.S. due to legal restrictions.

I'm in the UK, so it might be Japanese? There are a lot of the Japanese Fender guitars here.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2009, 15:01
I know piss-all about HH Jags, but I can tell you for absolute certainty that the CP Jags and Jazzes are all 100% hecho en México. I've had my nose so far up their consumer relations department's ass over the last year and a half, I can smell their tonsils.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 15:25
IT'S HERE IT'S HERE IT'S HERE

(http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/creston.jpg)

Sorry these were taken with my iPhone, it's all I had handy. For super-nice fancy-pants photos of the guitar you can see it over on Creston's website (http://crestonguitars.com/guitars/detail.php?id=143).

I took a couple more photos that show stuff that isn't in the Creston gallery:

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/baseballbat.jpg[/img]
I told Creston I liked "big necks" and he took me very, very literally. This thing's a friggin' baseball bat, and I LOVE IT SO MUCH OH MY GOD. Huge but completely playable and comfortable.

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/custompickupring.jpg[/img]
The custom pickup ring sits flush to the rest of the pickguard. Gives the guitar a neat look and doesn't catch on your knuckles like a Les Paul pickup ring sometimes can.

And finally, here's an audio walkthrough of the guitar (http://www.questionablecontent.net/mp3/CrestonReview.mp3). It sounds amazing. It plays amazing. I have the nerdiest voice in the world.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2009, 15:53
Man I have been posting too much in this thread as it is, and now I have GAS and it's all your fault.

Also, nice use of drop D.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 10 Jun 2009, 15:54
...but how is it in bed?

I am incredibly jealous.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 10 Jun 2009, 17:09
Quote
everything jeph said.

SHIT. i was so damn near set on a lefty Schecter C-1 hellraiser...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Schecter-C-1-Hellraiser-Left-Handed-Electric-Guitar-103652913-i1433244.gc

now I'm back at square one....

I'd go for and lefty Epi les paul... but I'm told you cant rely on them to be as good as Gibsons...

pretty damn quick here I'm just gonna go buy a cheap ass ovation and write songs about my hair...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: celticgeek on 10 Jun 2009, 18:11
...but how is it in bed?

I am incredibly jealous.

If it's really good in bed, we may be in for a week or so of Yelling Bird comics.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Jun 2009, 18:50
Jesus Christ, Jeph. That's easily one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard. Can I ask how much it set you back should I wish to invest in a Creston at some most likely non existent point in the future when I have money.
And by the way, your fingers are fucking huge.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 10 Jun 2009, 19:16
I own a guitar with a Floyd Rose. Everything is less of a pain in the ass than that.

If you want an ULTIMATE GUITAR NIGHTMARE, try re-intonating a Floyd Rose. There is literally no way to adjust the bridge saddles while they have strings on them. So you take the string off, make an adjustment, put the string back on (and remember this requires tightening and untightening at least a couple hex heads as well as the tuning pegs), check the tuning, repeat 1000x until you either guess right or get frustrated and give up. Oh and by adjusting the string length you're ALSO messing with the stability of the trem springs, so you also have to adjust THOSE, which is MORE trial and error.

They actually make a tool that lets you adjust intonation at tension with a floyd rose. I think it's like $40, but I never bought it. Whenever I have to do adjustments on my floyds I just shim the trem block and take one or two springs off. It's kinda tough to find something that fits perfectly to make it level, but it's the easiest way i found to do it. From that point on, you're basically just adjusting a stoptail with a string lock. Once you get your intonation right and everything's in tune, then lock the strings fine tune, and put the springs back on. Remove the shim, and adjust the claw until the bridge is where it was when you shimmed it.

Of course, you only need to do this if you're changing tunings or string guage. If you're not planning on doing it any time soon, then you just need to tune it like you would regularly tune a floyd, which is, honestly, pretty intensive compared to a stop tail. I'm probably in the minority that actually likes the Floyd, but i do recognize how high maintenance it is.

By the way, Tele looks great. Hopefully I'll have enough time to finish mine before the summer is over. It's kinda inspired by Billy Gibbon's custom tele.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 10 Jun 2009, 19:20
Man at least you don't have to take the whole neck off just to make 1/8 turn on your truss rod. I swear I'd slap Leo for that if he wasn't dead.

Yeah, I love Kramer necks, but that's one of the reasons why I don't buy the old "beak" type ones. I had one and that just pissed me off. Also, Gibson style socket head truss rods piss me off too. I can't stand it when I have to take my guitar to a repair shop to do adjustments.

So, sorry bout the double post.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 20:52
Jesus Christ, Jeph. That's easily one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard. Can I ask how much it set you back should I wish to invest in a Creston at some most likely non existent point in the future when I have money.
And by the way, your fingers are fucking huge.

Mine was just under $2000. He says most of his guitars cost between $1500 and $2K, with very few being under that and only the super fancy ones (barn boards, Sarah Ryan art) being over.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Jun 2009, 21:01
Man that is very, very reasonable.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 10 Jun 2009, 21:03
God that is a beautiful sounding (and looking) guitar.  It has a surprising amount of balls for a tele.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 23:19
Yeah that was "Green to Me" and Hum are basically how I learned to play guitar. So I will always sound like them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zeropercent on 11 Jun 2009, 03:21
Yeah that was "Green to Me" and Hum are basically how I learned to play guitar. So I will always sound like them.

I've read this comic/occasional news post for 5 years now, and just half the intro was enough to finally kick me over into signing up for a forum account.  Good job, successful internet entrepreneur/artist.

"Green to Me" is second only to "The Pod" in my opinion (I generally prefer YPaA to DiH...that's maybe not a popular opinion, depending on the audience), and your recording of it sounds good.

Have anyone here played an Ormsby guitar?  They are a little pricey, but also kick out some killer noise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Jun 2009, 05:21
Jeph wins guitar topic on his own forum. Shenanigans not involved. No film at 11.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rusty Kuntz on 11 Jun 2009, 14:00
Jeph wins guitar topic on his own forum. Shenanigans not involved. No film at 11.

Not so fast scooter. This is the last guitar I bought, it's a Gibson Custom shop Historic 57 Reissue:

http://www.myspace.com/tigersofrustykuntz

Jeph doesn't jam in the nightclubs of Chicago with his shirt unbuttoned either:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/jacke1/nite2-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/jacke1/nite1-1.jpg)

And you can throw down with my sound here:

http://www.myspace.com/tigersofrustykuntz
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 11 Jun 2009, 18:27
I don't know which bothers me more, the shameless band whoring or the fact that I think you should probably button your shirt.

Goldtops are pretty sick though, not gonna lie.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zarinrules on 11 Jun 2009, 20:42
Greetings all.  First post here.

I noticed the guitar Jeph Jacque posted in the blurb at the bottom of the main page of his comic, and just thought I'd come in and say that it's a beauty!  Happy birthday, can't do much better than that!

So I mostly play acoustic, but dwell into other realms too.  My main axe is a Yamaha LLX26C.  I also have a Reverend Club King HB, Washburn D-25S circa late '80s/early '90s (with a recent neck reset, so it plays wonderfully), a Rodriguez Model B, a Yamaha BEX4, an old Squier P that I poorly defretted, and a large collection of hand percussion/electronic instrumentation/recording gear.

My latest acquisition is a 1946 Gibson ES125.  Pretty stoked on that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 12 Jun 2009, 02:16
dude with more money than me ITT
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Jun 2009, 06:42
BLOOZLOYA
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 12 Jun 2009, 07:22
also jamming in nightclubs isn't cool unless you are black and in the 40s

sam you've recently developed into a hater.

nip this in the bud, kiddo.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 12 Jun 2009, 08:26
Sonic Youth signature JMs have been announced now:  http://www.fender.com/sonicyouth/

They seem quite cool (wide-range pickups on Lee's one!) but there are some, to me, strange choices. Why do they come with stickers, why is there no tone pot, and why does the website look like a 14 year old girl's myspace page?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2009, 09:28
Why do they come with stickers

Because it's a Sonic Youth signature guitar.

Quote
no tone pot

Because it's a Sonic Youth signature guitar.

Quote
why does the website look like a 14 year old girl's myspace page?

Because their marketing department is a million stupid.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: samuel on 12 Jun 2009, 09:42
Oh man, that's a sweet guitar Jeph. I've been a long time reader but once I saw you bought a Creston, I HAD to sign up. Creston's guitars are awesome. I bought one a while back and got it for my birthday. Here's mine:

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Econorock/guitars004.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of Anders Parker and Varnaline, so I was stoked to get the barn beam cousin to his Wormwood. Trippy to see some of the people in the same musical circles.

Also, I have one of the new Mexican Jazzmasters, they're awesome. It's basically the J Mascis Signature with normal colors and normal frets, which means all the right things are done to them. An American made Jazzmaster is just the same but has all the shortcomings of the original. The roller bridge won't stay in tune at all. The Tune-o-Matic knock-offs on the Mascis and Mexi Jazzmasters keep it in tune. I do a lot of trem work with my Jazzmaster and it is always in tune. The only complaint I have is a buzzing on the G-string between the bridge and tailpiece. They're solid though and sound great.

However, if you REALLY love the Strat sound, you won't dig it. It's nothing like it. If I compare a Jazzmaster to another guitar, it's closer to the Les Paul Double Cutaway...the ones with the P-90s. The Jazzmaster is a bit more robust due the the winding being heavier on the pickups, but man, it sounds great. Great clean and boy do they sing when you throw a Big Muff in the mix.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 12 Jun 2009, 11:00
Recently I put flatwounds on my Yamaha AEX500. Not sure how I feel about it yet.
They are f'ing hard to play. Sounds good fingerpicked though. 11-50 gauge.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jun 2009, 11:04
What's the difference?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: samuel on 12 Jun 2009, 11:15
Flatwounds are cool on bass. They can make a P-bass sound like an upright. As for guitar, I've used them, but it just sounds like strings you've had on for years. They feel nice though, smooth is always nice.

As for the difference, roundwound (standard) strings are a coil with texture. It's circular wire coiled up around wire. Flatwound are  made so the coiling wire is flush to the one next to it. It's totally smooth. Cuts down on noise from sliding fingers and feels nicer, but they sound dead from the package. Some people like that sound though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2009, 13:25
I'm thinking about making a switch to 10-46 flatwounds for my Jag, just because I like the sound of Cake's guitarist when he uses them on his hollowbody Gibson. I can get a very similar sound, one that's good for fast country shuffles, a-la the often-covered '50s classic "Hot Rod Lincoln".
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 12 Jun 2009, 14:07
Oh man, that's a sweet guitar Jeph. I've been a long time reader but once I saw you bought a Creston, I HAD to sign up. Creston's guitars are awesome. I bought one a while back and got it for my birthday. Here's mine:

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Econorock/guitars004.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of Anders Parker and Varnaline, so I was stoked to get the barn beam cousin to his Wormwood. Trippy to see some of the people in the same musical circles.

Aw dang that is pretty! GOOD CHOICE SIR
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jun 2009, 06:01
The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken.

Mexico. Fender Japan doesn't export to the U.S. due to legal restrictions.

With the exceptions of the '65 Mustang RI, the Jaguar HH Special, and (i think) the Jaguar Bass.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Jun 2009, 07:48
Also these D'addario chromes have a wound G string. Which I am not sure how I feel about yet, either.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Jun 2009, 09:45
Oh man i do not like wound g strings at all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jun 2009, 06:14
Ordered a Bigsby B50 for my Diamond yesterday. I've heard installation isn't really too hard, and I'm hoping all the extra travel will solve the one problem I have with this guitar: it just feels like there is NO tension on the strings.

Also, while at the store, I tried out a Road Worn Strat. Retarded looks aside, that guitar FEELS amazing. Sounds a little..I dunno...I always thought Strats sounded a little bland to me. That neck though, holy shit.

Rather, I didn't try it out, but was mocking it with my friend. The guy working at the store came over, grabbed it off the wall, handed it to me, and was like "it looks dumb, but play it." He's right.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Jun 2009, 11:29
Oh man i do not like wound g strings at all.

I know dude I hate it when my panties get all in a twist
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 14 Jun 2009, 11:36
Everyone saw that post earlier and thought "hmm... no, no, that joke is just too unfunny and over-used". Patrick saw the same post and shouted out "hot damn, this is the perfect opportunity for a hilarious joke!"

Guitar-related: Tomorrow I am going to try out a Jazzmaster and a Jaguar. Is there anything I should look out for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 15 Jun 2009, 06:47
Guitar-related: Tomorrow I am going to try out a Jazzmaster and a Jaguar. Is there anything I should look out for?
Wet spots in your pants.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 15 Jun 2009, 07:46
I've played it and am now lusting after one. The shop was charing £749 for the recent Classic Player model, that seems awfully expensive. On the internet they go for about £550, around about the same as my Strat, hopefully.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 15 Jun 2009, 08:22
Before you buy anything, test a CP Jag with 'buckers. I saw a diagram that one of the guys from OSG posted, and apparently Fender replaced the rhythm circuit with coil blending, you can have it go full single-coil, full humbucker, or somewhere in the middle. The volume and tone knobs by the jack still do what they were made to do, and the strangle switch still strangles.

I really want to check that motherfucker out, because seriously, that sounds like it'd be a beast. Not to mention a 6-string Swiss Army knife.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 15 Jun 2009, 11:15
That sounds pretty cool but I think it would be almost impossible to find any. Even the normal Jags and JMs are really rare.

Patrick, you're on OSG, could you tell me what GAS stands for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 15 Jun 2009, 14:09
Gear Acquisition Syndrome (GAS)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 17 Jun 2009, 15:04
Hey guys, what's the general opinion on the Squier Classic Vibe series? I'm usually one of the idiots who might discriminate against a instrument just because of the big "Squier" stamped on the headstock, but apparently these things are good. Like, really good. One guy on OSG called the 50's Telecaster one of the best guitars he's ever played, and I've seen a lot of other reviewers say things that come pretty close to the same. And they're $350 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-CLASSIC-VIBE-Telecaster-50s-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519376 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-CLASSIC-VIBE-Telecaster-50s-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519376)).

Apparently, most don't even make any modifications to them, claiming that the stock pickups and parts are good enough to leave. This really has my interest piqued, and I'm afraid an impulse buy might be following. Any words of encouragement/discouragement?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cire27 on 17 Jun 2009, 15:31
Oh damn if those reviews are for real I know what my second guitar is going to be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 17 Jun 2009, 17:06
I played one of the Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics and really liked it.  Unfortunately I didn't have the cash to throw at it, and it was going for only $200 too!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 17 Jun 2009, 17:12
Yeah those look pretty rad too. I just wish I could find a local place that stocked any of them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 18 Jun 2009, 06:29
They are spectacularly beautiful guitars, and they play pretty damn well for the price.  The neck was big for my tastes, but that's just because I'm used to the neck on my Dano which is fairly thin.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 18 Jun 2009, 07:03
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/

This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Herzapplikator on 18 Jun 2009, 12:05
Could anyone tell me what exactly this thing is? It's some kind of Framus, no idea what model or anything, though. Also, sorry for the sucky picture, just ignore the crap in the background.
http://i40.tinypic.com/23mvsld.jpg
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 18 Jun 2009, 12:33
Looks like a custom Framus Strato.  Do a Google search for Framus gutiars, then when you get to their site, go to "Vintage" on the nave bar and look at the solid body models.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Jun 2009, 12:52
That thing is a beauty.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Herzapplikator on 18 Jun 2009, 12:54
Looks like I missed the most obvious solution. Thank you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 18 Jun 2009, 14:35
That is such a beautiful guitar.  Offset + Bigsby copy + humbuckers = win.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 18 Jun 2009, 21:41
Agreed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 19 Jun 2009, 02:54
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/

This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.

McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.

for serious though they apparently have ridiculously thick finishes which kill the tone also honestly quilted maple is completely played out and kind of hideous

*this is coming from the guy with three Paul Reed Smiths so set your Hypocrisy Filters to 11.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Jun 2009, 06:32
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/
This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.
McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.
My thinking was also that too many of those looked like PRSs. And that all the people shown look like douchebags. How about if they made one un-quilty and tung oil finish? Would that un-douche it? Purely hypothetical. I'm not buying one of these. Unless I start a GNU-METAL ROCK BAND ACT CALLED: MΣNSTRUALÖADNEKK...
Then I have to have triple flamed bubinga with SKULL INLAYS AND KNOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111  :lol:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jun 2009, 07:40
+1 on the quilted maple hate. I've only seen one instance where it actually looked good, and I was drunk.

Guys maybe I should get a Mustang bridge for this Jag because fuck I don't like when the low E skips out of the saddle. in b4 'i told u so'
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 19 Jun 2009, 09:46
I bought a Mastery Bridge for my Jazzmaster, but I kind of feel like a sucker for doing so. Honestly, I kind of like how it sounded/felt with the Mustang Bridge/Buzzstop combo better.  :|

I'll probably be putting the aforementioned combo back on next time I change strings. I really need money as it is, so selling the Mastery might be wise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 19 Jun 2009, 12:38
So I got some money today and all I want to do is buy a Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. This might involve me not being able to afford food for weeks. But I have been trying to lose weight anyway.

Plus, I was going totally PUNX with my setup by borrowing an amp from a friend in order to practice. Then he asked for it back. Sigh.

So, I am stalking ebay for an amazing buy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 19 Jun 2009, 13:37
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/
This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.
McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.
My thinking was also that too many of those looked like PRSs. And that all the people shown look like douchebags. How about if they made one un-quilty and tung oil finish? Would that un-douche it? Purely hypothetical. I'm not buying one of these.

McNaught actually had to change his headstock shape because PRS threatened to sue him for it being too similar to theirs (and it really was just the PRS headstock, stretched out lengthwise)

A solid black Phoenix model without all the stupid maple binding and abalone bullshit would actually look pretty metal. But if I were interested in dropping 3 grand on a metal axe I'd just get a custom ESP or BC Rich. The all-mahogany les-paul style guitars like the dude from Clutch has are all right, but I'm just not that into his stuff in general.
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Jun 2009, 14:45
Oh fuck I want one of his Flying V's...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Jun 2009, 15:08
I want a vader V.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Jun 2009, 19:58
Yeah the V's are pretty nice aside from the whole string-thru thing
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jun 2009, 00:11
Wait what I thought the Gibson V was ToM and stopbar just like every other Gibson ever (because Gibson are not very innovative. They basically take the same wood and build a new shape and BAM, NEW GUITAR GUYS EVERYBODY LOOK).
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Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Jun 2009, 00:16
Well yeah but at what point were we talking about the Gibson V anyway?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 20 Jun 2009, 01:53
Time to flaunt my guitar technical knowledge ignorance.

After three years of playing guitar tomorrow, I just figured out how to adjust the truss rod.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Jun 2009, 05:43
McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.

New topic: How fucking awesome is Tim Sult? He sneaks into my top 5 list of favorite guitarists.
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Jun 2009, 12:36
I did it. I bought a Hot Rod Deville. Now for the excrutiating wait while it ships. I will probably gush about it when it arrives.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jun 2009, 13:37
glyphic, when does the hunger strike start/end?

Good for you.

Like the McNaught "web" page sez, "BELEEB!"
Thing that is so funny about that stupid picture is McNaughty is in Locust NC. Which imho has less than zero scenic desert vistas like that opening page. Also, I believe that part of Stanly County is still dry (alcohol-wise), so maybe that's what they meant?  :laugh:
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Jun 2009, 13:57
The hunger strike starts today.  :|

I do not know when it will end. But, I am still hella excited.
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Post by: jeph on 20 Jun 2009, 14:08
Okay guys, my guitar collection has gotten out of hand again and I need to pare it down.

I'm looking to sell off my ESP Eclipse, my PRS Mira maple top, and my black Gibson Firebird Studio.

The ESP has some finish wear (ie, the matte finish is now shiny in a few spots from playing it), the Mira has a couple small dings in the finish, and the Firebird is in mint condition as far as I can tell (AND they don't make them anymore so...value?). Photos forthcoming.

They're all great guitars, they just don't get enough playing time to justify owning them anymore. I'd rather see them go to a QC forumer than some random eBay person, so you guys get first crack. I'm hoping to get $800 for the ESP (it retails for around $1200), $8-900 for the Firebird (retails for about 1200 too but is in mint cond.) and somewhere between $1100-$1300 for the PRS. I am willing to negotiate though! Email me (jephco at mac dot com) if you're interested in any of them. I may also be able to throw in some QC swag if you're interested.
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 20 Jun 2009, 17:14
Ah fuck Jeph.

I generally dislike PRS. I do. Except for those gorgeous blue finishes with the back and sides on clear nitro finish.

I'm glad I don't have any money though. I've been playing the shit out of my 335, and I seriously don't want any other guitars.

I even sold the Jazzmaster. That's right. I did. Sue me.
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jun 2009, 20:17
Jeph how many years would you be willing to hold that Firebird while I save up for it
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Post by: Jimor on 20 Jun 2009, 21:26
Just tell Jeph that the Albanian Leke trades 1:1 with the US$ and pay him with those...  :angel:
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jun 2009, 14:44
BTW, the flat wounds are awesome. EDIT.
...for to busk with your lovely wife when she is playing an acoustic bass in teh park.
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/Sj7MJnivm6I/AAAAAAAAIHo/7awvQ49glc4/s288/DSCF0050.JPG)
Amusingly the Laguna she just got has a beautiful Bubinga grain (amusing because I was joking about Bubinga). It's not "flamed" but it really nice.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/Sj7MPIKAtzI/AAAAAAAAIH4/gLYdbV1Vwho/s288/DSCF0055.JPG)

Anyway the flat wounds are a lot quieter and even the thin nato body of the Yamaha I'm playing is a LOT louder than her bass. I end up flatpicking a lot so as not to drown her out with the strumminz.

Also, PSA..drink plenty of water out there, kids...

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/Sj7MAtBm9-I/AAAAAAAAIHY/YWdQQ3zlcYw/s288/DSCF0046.JPG)

Jeph, I'll trade you some magic beans for the Firebird.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 22 Jun 2009, 07:34
Shit, I'd be all over that Eclipse if I had any money to my name right now.
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Jun 2009, 08:12
How cool wood it be if Creston made me a blue mahoe tele?
http://www.eyeontherainforest.org/bluemahoe.php
 (http://www.eyeontherainforest.org/bluemahoe.php)
Seems like it is about as dense/strong as mahogany.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 25 Jun 2009, 10:04
So I got some money today and all I want to do is buy a Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. This might involve me not being able to afford food for weeks. But I have been trying to lose weight anyway.

Plus, I was going totally PUNX with my setup by borrowing an amp from a friend in order to practice. Then he asked for it back. Sigh.

So, I am stalking ebay for an amazing buy.


it'll be the best amp you ever buy.  i really do love that line.  i'm amazed at how much the price of fender tube amps has skyrocketed in the past year though.  makes me wish i had bought a dozen 65 reissues 2 years ago.  haha.  truth.  anyway,  go with the 2x12 though instead of the 4x10, and trust my advice on this.  and i don't say that because i own the 2x12, i say this because i played through the 4x10 version for about 6 months before i purchased a deville of my own.  obv the 2x12 ha.

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Post by: imapiratearg on 25 Jun 2009, 10:28
The 4x10 is soooo nice.  Get a Blues Deville/Deluxe, though.  They're so might brighter and punchier for a little extra cash.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 25 Jun 2009, 10:56
The 4x10 is soooo nice.  Get a Blues Deville/Deluxe, though.  They're so might brighter and punchier for a little extra cash.

i'm not saying the 4x10 isn't nice... it's really the same amp.. i just always found that 10's couldn't offer things that 12's could, but i could get the sound out of 12's that i could out of 10's if that makes sense.  try them both, see what suits you.  saying this doesn't mean that the 410 deville isn't capable of  throwing out bottom end, in fact you'll probably find that it throws out too much bottom end sometimes, and you'll be keeping a phillips screwdriver close by to retighten all the screws that hold the frame of the amp together, as vibration eventually loosens them.  also i believe that the dimensions of the 4x10 are slightly larger than the 2x12, and being that both of these amps are already pretty heavy and without wheels on them, you'll find yourself carrying these things up stairs to gigs in the most awkward ways, laughing at the handle on the top, as if you could just carry it by your side and have it be a breeze.   

both the hot rod deville and blues deville have the best sparkling clean tones on any amp out there in my opinion, nothing even comes close, i've always just used the clean channel with either a pedal for boost or od, but if i was going to spend the extra cash, and i had my heart set on a 410, i'd be looking for a second hand super reverb..
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Post by: glyphic on 25 Jun 2009, 11:16
I actually ordered the Hot Rod Deville 4x10. I think it would suit my playing style better since i tend to augment most of my chords with a lower fifth. Plus, I'm doing more mathy spazzy punk stuff lately. I would like the bottom end to really stand out, but still be able to shriek and wail if it needs to. I'm not going to be shredding, but I need people to hear the chords that I'm playing for what they are. If that makes any sense.

Anyway, I have been researching the things since early February and just now ordered one. I hope that I'm right in my decision. I got a pretty good deal on the thing, too. $565 after shipping. It should be here Monday. I will probably take pictures and try to post them, as long as you guys don't mind my huge boner*.



*I will not literally post pictures of a huge boner.

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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jun 2009, 14:09
The Blues Deluxe is no heavier than my 100w Marshall solid-state 1x12, and I lug that thing up and down stairs all the time. And I'm a very skinny dude.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 25 Jun 2009, 15:31
The Blues Deluxe is no heavier than my 100w Marshall solid-state 1x12, and I lug that thing up and down stairs all the time. And I'm a very skinny dude.

i didn't refer to the deluxe line, which are 1x12 combos as being heavy amps.  we were talking about the hot rod and blues deville line which are 2x12 and 4x10.. which are entirely different amps.

anyway,

congrats glyphic!  that's a pretty sweet price too.  i'm assuming you bought it used?  good tubes in it? 
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Post by: pyroboarder69 on 25 Jun 2009, 23:42
Eh, what the hell sorry about the size

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars023.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars023.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars024.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars024.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars014.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars014.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars015.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars015.jpg)

Did the custom on the GAX myself (it's my mod practice guitar) I also have a Homemade Les Paul (yes, homemade, sounds like good crap) and an Ibanez nylon string that isn't pictured. My buddy has a 59 Tele but he stopped letting me play it because I kept pissing myself. Kidding..........maybe.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Jun 2009, 07:54
hey guys, it's Brian May talking about a guitar he and his dad built out of um...a bunch of junk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPD7_hQk7hk
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 08:20
Yeah, the Fireplace. That thing's certainly something. He and his dad have that 'genius' thing in common. You know that guy's got framed paper saying he's an astrophysicist? That he and Freddy Mercury were in the same band together is nothing short of a miracle.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Jun 2009, 08:34
Brian May was an astrophysicist?
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 08:38
Got a Doctorate in astrophysics, unless NPR is lying... (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90273890)
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Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Jun 2009, 08:48
My respect for Brian May just grew substantially.
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Post by: ledhendrix on 26 Jun 2009, 08:49
Yeah he was doing his phd when Queen started to become big so he left it behind. A couple of years ago he went back to it, and as that website says he's finished it all now.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 09:01
And he plays a homemade semi-hollow through a cranked AC30 with wah and the occasional delay. I dig the guy.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jun 2009, 11:05
congrats glyphic!  that's a pretty sweet price too.  i'm assuming you bought it used?  good tubes in it? 

Yeah, it's used. There's no way I could afford the $1200 for a new one. I figure that if something was going to go wrong with it, the previous owner would probably have mentioned it. There's a money-back guarantee, so I'm not worried. The guy I'm buying it from said the tubes he didn't replace when he put it up for sale are less than a year old. Groove tubes, from what he said. Not sure if they're the Sovtek rebrands or not. I guess I'll find out.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Jun 2009, 11:12
I don't think they're Sovteks repros.  At least, not if they're EL84s.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jun 2009, 11:23
Whoops, I was wrong. According to the previous owner:

3 brand new Ruby 12AX7 Pre-Amp Tubes have just been installed and sound awesome. The Power Tubes are 6L6 JJ tesla tubes which are amazing tubes and are less than a year old.

This is my first tube amp, so the actual brand names are still a mystery to me, somewhat. I know that Groovetubes are widely regarded as standard, but not much else. Hopefully I either learn fast or don't have to screw with it much. Ha
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 26 Jun 2009, 16:28
i have jj power tubes in mine and i've had great luck with them.  i've also never really had a problem with groove tubes like some people do.  i also have some old nos RCA pre tubes that i think have a great sound.  congrats again, did i already ask what you are playing through it?  i need to start taking some pics for you guys, i have some cool shit.  haha.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jun 2009, 16:56
The link in my sig box goes to my new band's space. Rough recordings abound!

I am hoping to have great luck with tubes. But, knowing me, the UPS guy will probably drop the thing off the truck and smash .every single one.

It should arrive Monday, and I will probably have pics posted on Tuesday morning.
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Post by: billiumbean on 28 Jun 2009, 03:01
Graduation present; An Epiphone Sheraton II

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1195/dsc00718jkh.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/dsc00718jkh.jpg/)

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3321/dsc00725n.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/dsc00725n.jpg/)

The images are a bit shitty.  I blame the camera, it's impossible to get a clear shot with it (thanks a lot, Ashton Kutcher).

It sounds like a semi hollowbodied guitar should sound, it's got a killer neck, no buzz at all with a perfect low action, headstock's generously angled, pearl inlays, pickguard is elevated.  I'm planning on fixing a Bigsby Tremolo onto it once I get the funds.  It's pickups are surprisingly good for an out-of-the-box pair.  I don't see any brand names on them, so I'm guessing they're just standard Epiphone generics.  Everything is gold.

It makes me feel inadequate, sometimes.  Like it's more of a man than I am.  I try to shrug it off.

Ten out of ten, all the way.  It even smells nice.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jun 2009, 06:04
Black and tort: never a bad combo.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Jun 2009, 06:34
Epiphone Sheratons are really amazing instruments. Feedbackkkkkkkkk *unf*
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Post by: imapiratearg on 28 Jun 2009, 08:31
Ennnvvyyyyyyyyyyy.
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Post by: Tehz on 28 Jun 2009, 11:53
Those are lovely instruments. Treat 'er well.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 28 Jun 2009, 21:43
So, I've decided I need another electric guitar, something more versatile than my single pickup Dano.  Tomorrow I'm going to go look at Tribute ASAT Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow, which I'm thinking might be the perfect guitar for my wants/needs.  I also just made bank by selling my old intermediate student trumpet, so I will most likely be able to bankroll this.
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Post by: billiumbean on 29 Jun 2009, 00:19
A semi-hollow humbuckered Tele knockoff sounds risky, but at least you can go try it out, because that's potentially very awesome.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2009, 00:31
I would hardly call a guitar designed by Leo Fender a Tele knockoff.
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Post by: billiumbean on 29 Jun 2009, 03:05
Lol, I stand corrected.
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Post by: glyphic on 29 Jun 2009, 14:09
I had mail today.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11252.jpg)
Delicious TOOOBB
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11248.jpg)

It sounds like beefy butter with awesomeness dressing. Like God is shouting at me to keep it down but his voice is a totally rad solo.

In all seriousness, though, it has the exact tone I was looking for. The only complaint that I have is that the clean channel can't be turned up past 3 before it starts breaking up. However, at 3, the clean channel is louder than the Drive channel at 7. So, I guess it isn't too big a problem.

I was rocking out earlier and it rumbled some stuff off my dresser. YES.
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Post by: glyphic on 30 Jun 2009, 15:15
After spending more time with the amp, the thing is cracking up and getting a lot of static after about ten minutes of straight play. This happens no matter what volume the amp is set to and primarily on the clean channel. So, for example, if I play an open E, it would be accompanied by awful noise. The only thing I can think is that maybe one of the tubes got messed up in transit (the box was pretty ragged). There was one preamp tube that was seated a little crooked, and I straightened it out, but do you think that getting jarred loose like that could have damaged it?

Sorry about the double post, but I have a week to return the thing for a refund. I would pay shipping (~$90USD). If I can just replace a single preamp tube that cost would drop significantly.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jun 2009, 15:33
Try plugging your guitar directly into the effects return jack. If you're still getting breakup, it's probably a t00b in the power section. If you're not, it's probably a different preamp t00b than the one you saw slightly askew.
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Post by: glyphic on 30 Jun 2009, 15:37
Just out of curiosity, why would it be one other than the crooked bugger?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Jun 2009, 15:53
Factory defects happen. Just another thing to rule out before you maybe waste $90 on shipping to return it.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Jun 2009, 19:28
Today I went on an epic music store crawl, hitting three different music stores in the space of three hours.  I played a whole bunch of electrics, and after trying and considering my other options, I've decided I am going to buy that ASAT Bluesboy Semi-Hollow.  I actually played a Fender Mexican Tele Thinline w/ dual humbuckers which was going for the same price, and the G & L definitely beat it out.  I also had the opportunity to play the ASAT through a brand new Fender '57 Champ re-issue, which is hand-wired and costs a ridiculous amount of money.  When I actually get the guitar I'll be playing it through a Champ 600 (a lot cheaper, but similar), so I was excited to play it through pretty much the same amp.

Here's (http://agandb.zoovy.com/product/3953/GL_ASAT_Classic_Bluesboy_Sunburst.html) the actual guitar I'm hoping to get.
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Post by: Tehz on 30 Jun 2009, 19:53
Damn man, that is hawt.
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Post by: Radical AC on 30 Jun 2009, 22:51
Is that a tribute series?  Musicians friend sells the thing for 1500 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/g-l-basses-guitars-electric-guitars?N=100001+304275+201363).  Did it fall off a truck?  If not I'm so buying it from that website.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 30 Jun 2009, 22:58
I've ordered from Musician's Friend before, and I've always been satisfied. However, you will get a ton of catalogues afterwards, but I don't really mind. I ordered a mute for my violin and have since been getting viola/violin/cello catalogues.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Jul 2009, 08:03
Oh, it's definitely a Tribute, made in Indonesia.  I think the list price on it is like $800, I'll be getting it for $600.  Yeah, I can't afford a US made G & L.  But the quality and craftsmanship are excellent, and it plays just as well as many US made Teles I've tried.

Edit for clarity: The one on Musiciansfriend is a US made G & L, the one I'm getting is the Indonesian manufactured Tribute series.
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Post by: Van donk III on 01 Jul 2009, 08:17
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/van_donk_III/Random/P1010073.jpg)

Here's my rig at the moment, a '74 Jazz, 2004 warwick thumb and my all time fave amp, the mighty mesa boogie bass 400+ - there's 16 valves in that muthafucka!!
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jul 2009, 08:40
...is... is that a 6x10 cab?
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Jul 2009, 09:28
That, sir, is a fantastic rig.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Jul 2009, 11:33
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE 8 X 8 (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new).

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.
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Post by: Van donk III on 01 Jul 2009, 11:59
Cheers fellas, who would have thought that countless years of instrument nerdery would give me any credibility?   not much credibility mind...... Just a shame the ol' band has gone tits up and I rarely have the opportunity to play stupidly loud anymore.   Is there anyone else out there that has permanently damaged their hearing through excessive rehearsals/gigs???

join me now in the tinitus choir:

"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 01 Jul 2009, 13:36
Current rig: (Bored at work/do not have a proper digital camera) Fender Tele Standard w/ lace sensor gold in the bridge and lace T-100 in the neck-> Proco Deucetone Rat->Dunlop Multi-wah->Digitech Whammy-> EHX Big Muff Pi->EHX Soul Preacher->Akai Headrush E2-> Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
 Pretty versatile rig, nice and trebley.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jul 2009, 16:13
Cheers fellas, who would have thought that countless years of instrument nerdery would give me any credibility?   not much credibility mind...... Just a shame the ol' band has gone tits up and I rarely have the opportunity to play stupidly loud anymore.   Is there anyone else out there that has permanently damaged their hearing through excessive rehearsals/gigs???

join me now in the tinitus choir:

"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Capitalize those Es and you have got me :D
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Jul 2009, 08:43
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE Weight x weight! (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new). </fixxxed>

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.

(100 lbs!) Although I have to give it to SWR, they are extremely economical with their cabs weight. GK on the other hand....
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Post by: Chad K. on 02 Jul 2009, 09:00

join me now in the tinitus choir:

"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Funny, I played a show last night and was juts hoping the buzzing would stop when I saw your post. 
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Post by: Van donk III on 02 Jul 2009, 14:30


Funny, I played a show last night and was juts hoping the buzzing would stop when I saw your post. 

it never stops :oops:
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Jul 2009, 14:41
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE Weight x weight! (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new). </fixxxed>

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.

(100 lbs!) Although I have to give it to SWR, they are extremely economical with their cabs weight. GK on the other hand....

Eh, take the back off that thing and it'll be only 98. Help your bassist carry his rig, they'll help with yours. Makes life easy!

Edit: Making my post interesting. I have discovered that if there's any one guitar in the world that is truly the best for making steel guitar-esque sounds, it is this here Fender Jaguar right in my lap. I can bend the G string normally and then push down on the high E simultaneously while the strings are ringing out and get a perfectly harmonized double string bend! This and bending a note before playing that note and two other notes, then unbending the bent string, make for some really convincing fake steel.

And for the tone all you have to do is flip it to the bridge pickup and pick it just behind the neck pickup.

SO HAPPY to figure this out.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 04 Jul 2009, 12:04
I played a made in Japan Jazzmaster the other day in London. It was only £595, I should have bought it.
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Post by: Tehz on 04 Jul 2009, 14:33
You should have.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2009, 15:03
I got a call Friday stating that the Bigsby (and old-school lookin' compensated bridge) were installed on my Diamond LP Junior clone. I'm picking it up a week from today, and the rockings will commence. WOOOO!
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Post by: Merrick on 04 Jul 2009, 15:19
I think I'm going to fall in love with this thread.

So many awesome guitars in one place.

I'ma gonna hafta boot up some pics of my new Brunswick acoustic at some point.  :-D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2009, 15:41
Go for it, there's not nearly enough good acoustic pronz in this thread.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Jul 2009, 15:55
Speaking of acoustics, one of my pet projects for after I get the hollowbody and the Blues Deluxe or Deville is to get me an acoustic. I've been looking at the Taylor 100 and 200 lines, and I've played a couple and loved them endlessly, but Idunno. You guys got any recommendations for something around $500-900 that plays as well as them Taylors do?
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2009, 16:13
brand new Fender '57 Champ re-issue, which is hand-wired and costs a ridiculous amount of money.

Ugh yeah, $1000? Some of the more beat-up Champs from that era go for the same amount.
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Post by: Tehz on 04 Jul 2009, 18:22
Speaking of acoustics, one of my pet projects for after I get the hollowbody and the Blues Deluxe or Deville is to get me an acoustic. I've been looking at the Taylor 100 and 200 lines, and I've played a couple and loved them endlessly, but Idunno. You guys got any recommendations for something around $500-900 that plays as well as them Taylors do?

If you loved them then why not go for one? Why waste energy looking for something else?
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 04 Jul 2009, 19:50
get a motherfuckin' Dobro
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Post by: Zingoleb on 04 Jul 2009, 22:12
The man I am commissioning to make my bouzouki?

He makes some killer resonator guitars, and will bitch you out if you call it a Dobro.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 04 Jul 2009, 23:24
even if that mattered, I want patrick to buy a Dobro.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Jul 2009, 06:57
I played an actual Dobro resonator gee-tar once and the fucker had a square neck and I couldn't make it work for slide OR for fretting. Dobros are basically fucking useless to me.

Speaking of acoustics, one of my pet projects for after I get the hollowbody and the Blues Deluxe or Deville is to get me an acoustic. I've been looking at the Taylor 100 and 200 lines, and I've played a couple and loved them endlessly, but Idunno. You guys got any recommendations for something around $500-900 that plays as well as them Taylors do?

If you loved them then why not go for one? Why waste energy looking for something else?

'Cause I wanna be sure I'm getting the best value for my moneyz. I don't wanna get a Taylor and then find something even better like 2 months later. Buyer's regret sucks in a place like Alaska where you can't even take it back to the store and resell it 'cause the store is like 30 hours away by ferry.

Also guys look at my BUCKLE RASH

(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs178.snc1/6696_1103454060242_1043430031_30260039_1324776_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs198.snc1/6696_1103454100243_1043430031_30260040_1911656_n.jpg)
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Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Jul 2009, 18:00
I just got a Blueridge BR-60CE earlier this year for $800, and it is my favorite acoustic I've ever played.  I don't know how easy they are to find, but if you come across one you should definitely play it.  I'll post pictures soon in order to increase the acoustic pronz level in this thread.

ALSO

HOPEFULLY GETTING MY TRIBUTE ASAT BLUESBOY SEMI-HOLLOW TOMORROW!!!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: wespeakinmidi on 05 Jul 2009, 20:30
patrick,

i have a friend who's girlfriend bought him a midline taylor for christmas last year ( gotta find one of those girls right? ), and while he loved the guitar, he seemed to think it was really bright sounding, almost too bright sometimes, and lacked what he heard and wanted from other acoustics.  however, i picked up the guitar and thought it was a great sounding guitar since it sounded wonders better than my acoustic. 

i also have a few friends whom own midline martins that sound better than the $2000 martins ones we pick up.  i personally really like the sound of martins, but i still can't tell how much i like the feel of the necks, and i love the sound of the gibsons and the necks, but my wallet hates the tag.  ha.  anyway, 

the problem with buying acoustics is that a lot of these music stores have those acoustic rooms that could make a cardboard guitar sound good.  they're so deceitful to the ear.  ever pick up something out of a room like that, only to bring it home wondering why it sounds like a totally different guitar?

these places frown on you walking out of the room with the high end guitars, but whatever, if i'm serious about buying it, i'll play it where i want.  it's just really important to pick up a lot of different guitars, even if they are the same model, and let your ears do the judging, and inevitably, let the guitar pick you.. because it will.

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Post by: Ballard on 05 Jul 2009, 21:07
My ex-girlfriend bought me a low-end Martin a while back and I really wasn't content with it. It was way too dull sounding, too quiet, not bright enough.

Grass is always greener etc.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 06 Jul 2009, 07:17
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE Weight x weight! (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new). </fixxxed>

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.

(100 lbs!) Although I have to give it to SWR, they are extremely economical with their cabs weight. GK on the other hand....

Eh, take the back off that thing and it'll be only 98. Help your bassist carry his rig, they'll help with yours. Makes life easy!
My bassist is the esteemed Mrs Doombilly. She cannot haul the bass rig up the hill on the hand truck. I usually stack the 1x15swr and the gk4x10 and make the trek 1st because everything else in the truck is lighter than that load. Srsly I think with the handtruck she weighs less than the bass rig. Certainly with the ampeg head she would. Reason #293 I use a tiny terror and a reasonably weighted 2x12 cabinet. Plus the 2 PA speakers are like 80lbs each. I have it down to 5 trips with the handtruck these days.
1) bass cabs, 2) avatar212 3) ampeg bass head in skb rack+"power station" (carvin power amp, ETA power conditioner in a SKB dj rack) 4) pa spkr1 5) pa spkr2.
She loads all the guitars, gig bags, mic stands, 2 suitcases with the sequencer, mixer; and our special outfits in the cab.
It is a system. And then the next day after a gig I can play the, "Where/How did I get this big-assed bruise?" game. Loads of fun for the whole family...

Also hot tip #1 for finding good fitting cases for items that don't/won't go into a rack. Go to the goodwill. American tourister suitcases and some rubber foam work trés efficiently. I got three for $10. Two were perfect.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Jul 2009, 09:13
In my experience Taylors are trebly and Martins are on the bassy end of the spectrum.  As a general rule.  I've been playing on a Seagull and find it fantastic.  It plays a lot like a Taylor and the guy that founded the company worked with Taylor a while back.  The best acoustic guitar I have ever played is a Santa Cruz Firefly.  Holy crap, I would kidnap children for that thing.  But I don't know where I'm going to get over three grand for a bunch of kids.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jul 2009, 10:12
Black market.

Re: the incredible brightness of Taylors, yeah, it's pretty intense. But I've only ever heard Taylors with cutaways. I'd like to hear now their non-cut dreadnoughts sound before making a decision, which is why I'm not just gonna go out and get one.

Radical AC, I will definitely try to find some Seagull gee-tars at some point. I'll also be checking out Washburns and Martins and Gibsons and Alvarez acoustics and various others. I am looking for a guitar that is slightly brighter than my Kay (if she got any mellower I would play her to get the same effect as smoking weed, but cheaper), but with a similar mid and bass response and much easier playing action.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Jul 2009, 10:34
My best friend has a non-cutaway dreadnought Taylor and I would say it is much brighter than a Martin of equal styling.  I don't know the exact model but I know he payed about a $1000 for it.  Seagull guitars (owned by Godin, all made in Canada  :-D) are the best deal in acoustics I've ever found for something $3-800.  Amazing craftsmanship and great materials.  Next I'm either going to get a 314ce Taylor or save up for a Santa Cruz, but I'd be afraid to take it anywhere.

For an example of the dreadnough taylor sound you could check the first song on my friends myspace (http://www.myspace.com/canissoul).  (It's sappy, but the lyrics aren't the point  :-P)  He also uses heavy gauge strings toning down the brightness a bit.
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Jul 2009, 12:01
In my limited experience the Seagull's play better than they sound. Which is a shame as the one I played felt great. But they can be had at economical prices. So there's that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jul 2009, 15:39
Know what pisses me off

Gibson is all like "Yeah man our acoustics are the best shit ever you should jack off to them from time to time, if only infrequently, long as our brand name is still famous and in TV shows and shit"

I have played every single Gibson acoustic available as of May 2008 and they are so-so

It is funny they are all "WHOO BRIGHT SOUND 'CAUSE OF SITKA SPRUCE TOPS YEEE" and you play the thing and it sounds dark and thuddy, "Redemption Song"-like

Fuckin' mahogany everything else fuck I bet they brace the shit with mahogany
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 06 Jul 2009, 16:55
I'm actually gonna jump on the Seagull bandwagon as well. I played one of those Entourage Mini-Jumbos (which are supposed to be the budget line), and it was fantastic. And for $350? Forget about it.

I'm planning on buying one pretty soon, hopefully before the end of the year.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 06 Jul 2009, 18:14
it sounds dark and thuddy, "Redemption Song"-like



AHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by: imapiratearg on 06 Jul 2009, 19:25
Alvarez are about as good as you can get for budget acoustics.  Fuck, John Darnielle plays an Alvarez.  That should be warrant enough to get one.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 06 Jul 2009, 19:47
Easily the nicest playing, most comfortable acoustic I've ever played, --which also had beautiful tone and was loud as hell-- was this thing right here.   Too bad it's so effing ugly.  I feel like one of those freaks who owns a Chinese Crested Dog.  Clearly something is wrong with me for loving it, but I just can't help it.

(http://www.gretschguitars.com/repository/gretsch/images/G6022_xl.jpg)

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Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Jul 2009, 20:36
Oh ew jesus Gretsch what the hell
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Post by: BurningSky on 06 Jul 2009, 20:53
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v71/28/17/24806288/n24806288_31031277_8601.jpg)

This picture is over two years old, but it's one of the best of me on stage with my guitar. Damn, it makes me wish I had a band again.  :cry:
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 06 Jul 2009, 22:26
Nice guiatr BurningAxe

Anyways, I discovered a pretty awesome tuning today: FACGCE. It's basically only good for one-finger-fretting-all-strings chords, but it sounds awesome.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jul 2009, 07:52
I tuned to FAGFAG once just 'cause I thought it'd be funny. Actually it sounded pretty cool. Another time I tuned to GAEGAE. Same story.
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Jul 2009, 08:57
I've written some good stuff in DACGAE. As far as alternate tunings go I'm a big fan of DADGAD and DADGBD (for playing Neil Young songs).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Jul 2009, 11:44
I tuned to FAGFAG once just 'cause I thought it'd be funny. Actually it sounded pretty cool. Another time I tuned to GAEGAE. Same story.

lol

I usually stay in standard or drop-D, but I love alternate tunings. Open G, Open C, DGDGBE, CGDGBE, and EADF#BE. That last one is pretty good for thick shoegazey chirds I find.
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Post by: andripeter on 07 Jul 2009, 14:00
I´m thinking about upgrading my amp from vox-ad100xl to a Fender Hot Rod Deville 410.  My gretch would sound sweet through that one!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Jul 2009, 22:15
So, when I play my Tele through my Big Muff, it hums severely. When I turn down the guitar's volume knob, there's no hum. Should I look into Noiseless pickups or just give in and get a noise gate?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Jul 2009, 07:48
So, when I play my Tele through my Big Muff, it hums severely. When I turn down the guitar's volume knob, there's no hum. Should I look into Noiseless pickups or just give in and get a noise gate?
I've got Lace sensors on my Tele. They sound gorgeous. I've also heard good things about those crazy single-coil sized humbuckers that Seymour Duncan makes.
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Post by: MrBlu on 08 Jul 2009, 07:58
I tuned to FAGFAG once just 'cause I thought it'd be funny. Actually it sounded pretty cool. Another time I tuned to GAEGAE. Same story.
1. Tune to FAGBAG
2. Post results
3. ????
4. Profit!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Jul 2009, 08:46
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 08 Jul 2009, 12:05
So, when I play my Tele through my Big Muff, it hums severely. When I turn down the guitar's volume knob, there's no hum. Should I look into Noiseless pickups or just give in and get a noise gate?
I've got Lace sensors on my Tele. They sound gorgeous. I've also heard good things about those crazy single-coil sized humbuckers that Seymour Duncan makes.

Hot Rails? I have one in my Strat. Sounds great, but it's WAY too hot. I mean, I can't play cleans on the thing without it distorting at least slightly.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 Jul 2009, 12:22
Hum is a normal thing with single coils.  Especially with a Muff, which is a seriously high gain circuit.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 08 Jul 2009, 12:24
Hum is a normal thing with single coils.  Especially with a Muff, which is a seriously high gain circuit.

Yeah, and I love both...just not that "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" when I'm not playing. Maybe I'll just put a killswitch in my guitar.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 08 Jul 2009, 16:00
GUITAR SPAM (sorry)

ASAT Classic Bluesboy Semi-hollow; I got it, and yeah, it's pure sex.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2670/3701888829_9861d48052.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/3702699988_47b836d56b.jpg)

And here's my acoustic, a Blueridge BR-60CE (product page here (http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=BR-60CE) for those who are interested).
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2670/3701894767_fd5e747b01.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2599/3702702494_4b4ebb56d6.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/3702704906_0288df7129.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jul 2009, 17:08
Hum is a normal thing with single coils.  Especially with a Muff, which is a seriously high gain circuit.

Yeah, and I love both...just not that "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" when I'm not playing. Maybe I'll just put a killswitch in my guitar.
Have you checked the wiring? You might have a ground wire off. But that might just be as good as it gets. Hummy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 08 Jul 2009, 19:35
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?

Is this really a question?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 08 Jul 2009, 19:49
I want to turn the control plate on my Tele around.  I wonder if the wires are long enough.
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Post by: ledhendrix on 09 Jul 2009, 04:01
If not just make them longer. Soldering is fun kids.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 09 Jul 2009, 09:58
ITT: Jeph starts a trend

Oh and fuck noiseless pick-ups. They are way too sterile and take all the persona out of your guitar and replace it with played-out tone. If you are having real trouble with your effects board causing screeching feedback, get a noise gate. That's what they are for. Noiseless pick-ups are for pansies who can't play lead guitar clean enough.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 09 Jul 2009, 11:25
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?

Is this really a question?

Kinda. I am just so on the fence about this it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jul 2009, 12:01
ITT: Jeph starts a trend

Oh and fuck noiseless pick-ups. They are way too sterile and take all the persona out of your guitar and replace it with played-out tone. If you are having real trouble with your effects board causing screeching feedback, get a noise gate. That's what they are for. Noiseless pick-ups are for pansies who can't play lead guitar clean enough.
Johnny Greenwood and Eric Clapton, and Bob Mould disagree, good sir.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 09 Jul 2009, 12:30
Ok, guys. Sorry, but I love this guitar:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SZMr9ii15hw/R3_u0i4lalI/AAAAAAAAAGk/kFiTHRUswjA/s320/pekpek.jpg)

link for embiggenating: http://www.pulseonline.com/Schecter/bigPorlThompson.jpg (http://www.pulseonline.com/Schecter/bigPorlThompson.jpg)

Schecter makes an interesting guitar every once in a while.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Jul 2009, 12:37
There's no fucking way Bob Mould ever used Lace Sensors in Husker Du and I don't really give a shit as to what Bob Mould is doing now.

Bob Mould also thinks it's cool to play one of these.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Bob_mould_mccarren_park_pool.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jul 2009, 13:34
Hey, Corgan used them during the Siamese-dream era. No matter what you think of him you have to admit he knows how to make that stratocaster sound badass.
Just because they sound a little different doesn't mean they're not as good as conventional single-coils. Even if you don't like the tone there's they have great sustain and allow better intonation since they reduce string pull to almost nothing. All I'm saying is don't knock them till you try them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Jul 2009, 15:13
I don't like 'em 'cause I think they're ugly.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Jul 2009, 09:13
I'm playing electric lead for the first time in a few years next week. I'm a touch nervous, even though it's only simple stuff my fingers feel like dead weight at the minute.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 10 Jul 2009, 12:33
^ Irony is, I can't play much other than lead guitar with my fingers, because holding chords makes my hand hurt terribly bad and so does holding a pick.

If not just make them longer. Soldering is fun kids.

I swear, when I read this, I read it as 'soldering kids is fun,' and as I read it just now, I could have sworn you said something along the lines of, 'Soldering little kids fun'.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Jul 2009, 08:06
hmmm...
http://www.coil-guitars.com
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: MrBlu on 11 Jul 2009, 08:15
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?
How much?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 11 Jul 2009, 15:49
Dear guys,

I am playing a 1937 Kay acoustic guitar

Basically I don't give a fuck about any of your guitars anymore, this is fucking perfect

(porn later when I finally fucking feel like putting this gorgeous thing down)

Love,
Me
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Jul 2009, 16:21
It is later, so here is porn:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2799.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2800.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2801.jpg)

72 goddamn years old
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 11 Jul 2009, 17:43
72 goddamn years old

Is that how old the strings are too?

(okay so I am just trying to conceal my jealousy)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 11 Jul 2009, 18:46
8===D~~~
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: billiumbean on 11 Jul 2009, 19:14
I really don't think an emission would make for a good compliment considering where a guitar is placed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: celticgeek on 11 Jul 2009, 20:41
That is a flat fantastic guitar, Patrick. 

I have two Kay guitars (one is actually a Penncrest) but I love them both and I really do like their tone.  They are both from about 1966-1967, just before Kay went out of business. 

I envy you the use of the 1937 Kay.  Post recordings of it, if you can. 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 11 Jul 2009, 22:47
I really don't think an emission would make for a good compliment considering where a guitar is placed.

I wear a rubber at all times, it's a neccessity
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Jul 2009, 05:48
It's finally installed yesssssssssss.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/16903675-089352bdc4bc84fd67fcf12999.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jul 2009, 10:15
*Boink*
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 12 Jul 2009, 10:17
When a guitar walks in with two P-90 pickups
And a Bigsby in your face
You get
SPRUNG
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Jul 2009, 10:55
The guy at the shop pulled it out of the bag, and I was like "Oh god, that looks so badass."

I'm loving it, so far. I'll record a demo sometime this week for you guys.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 00:40
Hey guys, I want to ask y'all a question

On my acoustic, I have a problem with the tuning keys. That is, they break off. It's happened twice now, I got one of them fixed, and another one pre-fixed so it wouldn't break, but another is about to snap. I can tell.

I'm trying to look on the Fender site to see if I can order a set of replacement keys (as I'd like to replace them all, preferably), but can't seem to find anywhere to order them. Where's a good place to order them?

I was looking up Fender, by the way, in the hopes that I could put in the model name and get the exact tuning keys I needed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ledhendrix on 13 Jul 2009, 00:55
My dad gets most of his guitar stuff off of this site (http://www.stewmac.com/). I would be very

Here's the exact link http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 01:01
You would be very...what? Worried? Scared? Constipated?

Thanks for the links, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ledhendrix on 13 Jul 2009, 01:02
I have no idea what I was planning on typing there. None at all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 01:07
Holy shit I need money badly
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 13 Jul 2009, 03:55
I buy a fair amount of stuff from StewMac myself.  If you're looking to shop on a budget, however, that ain't the place to do it. 

http://buildyourguitar.com/resources/suppliers.htm

There's a list to get you started of parts suppliers.  There are a ton of others out there too that a little bit of googling will turn up.  The place I buy my tuners and pots at isn't listed at all, and for the life of me, I can't find them in my bookmarks right now.  Obviously, I need more coffee.  Also remember, when you're buying tools, you can probably find those a hell of a lot cheaper someplace else.   Just because it says 'nut' or 'fret' file, doesn't meant that's what it really is.  Skip the middle man whenever you can.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ledhendrix on 13 Jul 2009, 04:09
Ebay as well would be an idea.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 21:06
How/what do I measure to make sure I'm getting the right size?

(As much as I know about playing guitar, I'm totally ignorant on the mechanics of one)
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jul 2009, 02:47
That is a flat fantastic guitar, Patrick. 

I have two Kay guitars (one is actually a Penncrest) but I love them both and I really do like their tone.  They are both from about 1966-1967, just before Kay went out of business. 

I envy you the use of the 1937 Kay.  Post recordings of it, if you can. 

Thanks! She belongs to my old man. If I could choose any one thing to inherit when he inevitably passes on, I'd skip his Mustang, I'd skip his airplane, I'd skip even his ridiculously well-preserved vinyl collection if it were necessary to have that guitar. This guitar taught my dad most of what he knows about guitar playing, and it was the first I ever laid hands on, and if anybody ever hurt it, I would kill them on the spot.

I'm not sure I can post recordings of her though, because I don't think my dad'll let me take her along to the studio when I record my demo in a couple of days. But I can definitely ask! And I'll post more pics later. You guys haven't even seen the headstock emblem's shadow or the absolutely CAKED-ON grime that this guitar has built up over the years. Seriously the grime is like 1mm thick in some places.
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Post by: ledhendrix on 14 Jul 2009, 04:26
I might go and take pictures of all my dads old guitars. Then we can all have an old guitar orgy.
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Post by: Akima on 14 Jul 2009, 15:29
A warning to all guitarists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Of course considering the QC attitude to the music style in this video, there might be some who would say that United Airlines' baggage-handlers did a public service...  :evil:
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jul 2009, 16:43
I usually tell the airlines that I could check my guitar in it's flight case, but that I would not, under any circumstances, sign their "ain't our fault if our baggage handlers fuck up your thousand-dollar instrument" form. I watched one of the handlers in Seattle throw my Jag + case onto the little slidey ramp thing for oversize baggage, and I chewed that fucker out good. Guy's lucky I didn't ask for his supervisor. I'd have loved to crack the case over that asshole's head.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jul 2009, 17:00
Thankfully, it was a Fender Jaguar, and whatever doesn't kill it makes it stronger
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 15 Jul 2009, 07:35
cool kay patrick.  i've never played an old kay acoustic that wasn't one with F holes.  theres a 1930s or 1940s kay acoustic at my local guitar center, and i've picked it up a few times.  it has a cool and pretty unique sound that doesn't sound like any of the others in the room.  i keep promising you guys pics of my stuff, and it'll happen soon.  promise. 
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Post by: Beastmouth on 16 Jul 2009, 01:11
nthing the word to avoid stewmac.  One thing, though, is that you def need guitar nut files if you're slotting a nut.  They're really the only specialty hardware you need for a setup, though
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 16 Jul 2009, 15:51
ok... this is my collection.  i own these..

if you guys want more pictures of any of these let me know... i didn't want to go too crazy with photos.. questions welcome!  i didn't bother doing my acoustics as that's a whole other project haha. i need to put together some shots of my pedal boards too..

anyway..

1974 univox highflyer... original univox pickups are long gone, dearmond gold tones were thrown in at some point.  don't let the pictures fool you, shes still pretty... but honestly the body is in rough shape, and even has weird cracks from what appears to be someone leaving it in poor temperature... however, i bought the guitar because the neck is mint, and quite frankly it still sounds amazing, and you can't stop playing nirvana songs on it.

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3162/1974univoxhighflyer2.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/1974univoxhighflyer2.jpg/)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5804/1974univoxhighflyer.th.jpg) (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/1974univoxhighflyer.jpg/)

1981 white gibson sonex 180 custom with the coil tap and dirty finger humbuckers bla bla.  this guitar is so damn heavy.  it's pretty much a bolt on neck les paul, but this guitar has some sustain has some mmmph to it.  it's naturally aged to a gorgeous yellow, and sometimes it gives me a hard on after picking it up.  true story!

(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8760/1981gibsonsonexfront.th.jpg) (http://img170.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsonexfront.jpg/)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4595/1981gbsonsonexback.th.jpg) (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/1981gbsonsonexback.jpg/)

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1836/1981gibsonsonexheadstoc.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsonexheadstoc.jpg/)

:::: 1981 Gibson Sg custom.. i've played this guitar longer than any of the guitars i'm posting.. she has some dings from seeing a lot of gigs, but she's still in gorgeous shape and people constantly ask me to buy it.  i wouldn't sell it for ten thousand dollars, even though it's not worth that much.  i've picked up hundreds of other sgs.. none touch this.  haha it looks so sexy with the black trim around the natural wood tone.. i have such a bond with this guitar, this guitar is simply my best friend and will be going in my coffin.  it's also had it's share of tony iommi riffs played on it. nuff said.

(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3048/1981gibsonsg.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsg.jpg/)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7343/1981gibsonsg1.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsg1.jpg/)

:::: 1979 gretsch bst 1000 "the beast model".  i've been playing this guitar alot at all of my recent gigs.  this guitar is so unique and gets such a wide range of sounds.  1979 and 1980 mark the last years gretsch made guitars in the USA.  i don't think gretsch meant for this guitar to be a high end guitar, but i have a hard time putting it down, it just sounds so good.  3 way switch makes this 3 totally different guitars.  it's nice and light and super comfortable to play.  theres a tad of wear on the back of the neck in the first position and then down by the 12-15 frets, but what can i say, she gets a lot of play too. 

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6769/1979gretschbeastguitar.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1979gretschbeastguitar.jpg/)


(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8271/beastbody.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/i/beastbody.jpg/)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4803/beastneckwear.th.jpg) (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/beastneckwear.jpg/)

lastly... 1971 epiphone crestwood.  i'm not even sure of the exact model.  this one has the tremelo, they also made them with the hardtail.  anyway, this guitar i bought as a project, shes been gutted of the old japanese wiring, and had quality components put in her, and had a pro set up on her.  i was going to do the wiring myself, but at the time, i got busy and lazy. oh well, the neck on this guitar almost feels like it belongs on an ibanez electric or something.  it is so slim, and easy, despite the oversize headstock and gibson feel.  i feel bad as i don't play this as much as i should, and i always think about selling it, but i never want to go through the hassle..

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7607/1971crestwoodfront.th.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/1971crestwoodfront.jpg/)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6273/crestwoodfront.th.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/crestwoodfront.jpg/)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6159/crestwoodheadstock.th.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/crestwoodheadstock.jpg/)

hope you guys dig them!
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Jul 2009, 15:56
Good god, that collection is AMAZING. A salute to you, sir.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 16 Jul 2009, 16:14
guitars

(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyphh.jpg)
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 16 Jul 2009, 20:38
guitars

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z261/TheAceRock/RandyMarshJizz.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Jul 2009, 05:41
'71 Crestwood OH GOD WANT.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 19 Jul 2009, 19:12
So someone gave me this guitar a few months ago and it was so hideous that painting it silver and drawing on it with sharpies made it look better.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u146/Zingoleb/DSC00681.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u146/Zingoleb/DSC00680.jpg)

Fairly cheap Johnson guitar. Was completely stripped when I got it and it was good fun to make it whole again. The bridge is actually carved from a stick I found in my yard :lol:

Also, my friend wants to buy it.  :-D I'm going to sell it to him to fix up my good guitar back to glory and post pictures of that one~!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Jul 2009, 05:11
How does it sound with a home-made bridge?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 20 Jul 2009, 14:37
A little muddy but not too bad overall. It's an acoustic/electric and when you plug it in you can't really hear the muddiness.

Then the low-E tuning key fucked up on me last night and I have to replace it. It does that thing where you start to tune it up, then the string suddenly drops in pitch. I know why it does it but cannot reasonably explain it.

Edit: That is, when I'm tuning it up, counter-clockwise, it'll jump about a quarter turn clockwise and release the tension. However, I replaced it and it works better now.

I think the muddled sound has more to do with the quality of the guitar than the bridge. Then the fact that the guitar was spraypainted over several time (by others, then myself).
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Jul 2009, 16:17
I have the same tuning problem with the g-string my ltd ec-1000, and it has locking tuners!
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Post by: greenMonkey on 21 Jul 2009, 08:44
Does anyone know much about speakers?  I have a Fender Champ 600, which is actually a great little amp, and perfect volume for dorm room playing and recording, but the speaker is not what I'd like.  I'm looking for options for replacing the stock 6" speaker.  Any suggestions?
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Jul 2009, 06:35
Weber supposedly makes great (and relatively inexpensive) replacement speakers for like..every amp ever.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 26 Jul 2009, 07:50
if you really want that crestwood... your welcome to pm me and make me an offer.. if i did sell it, i'd set up a private ebay auction for everyones security.  anyway, it  seems like the originals are all of a sudden so popular since epiphone reissued a similar looking guitar costing 2grand.  haha.  i've been debating craigslisting it just to make some room, and like i said it doesn't get enough play.  i'm not one to waste things, so i'd rather see someone rocking it.  it IS a great geeeetar. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jul 2009, 08:48
Like I could afford that. I can barely afford Squiers. =(

Plus right now, my mind's on a CIJ competition Mustang for sale on OSG.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Jul 2009, 16:26
um..kinda neato (http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/catalog/item/4798917/7161769.htm) :-P
(http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/i//66SILVERTONEsilBLUE_4_.jpg)
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Post by: Nodaisho on 27 Jul 2009, 16:40
I usually tell the airlines that I could check my guitar in it's flight case, but that I would not, under any circumstances, sign their "ain't our fault if our baggage handlers fuck up your thousand-dollar instrument" form. I watched one of the handlers in Seattle throw my Jag + case onto the little slidey ramp thing for oversize baggage, and I chewed that fucker out good. Guy's lucky I didn't ask for his supervisor. I'd have loved to crack the case over that asshole's head.

You know, I have dropped my epi (in the case) six feet onto a parking lot (didn't quite have a hold of it when someone let go) and it didn't even go out of tune, so if they manage to break my guitar when it is in my luggage, there is either malice or the kind of vacuum of talent that would allow one to burn down a public pool on accident while making a salad in the adjacent state. Yeah, I'm not taking my guitar by plane unless I get an extra seat for it, or maybe if I put the case inside a cardboard box with a lot of padding. If your baggage handlers are so incompetent as to be able to break a guitar through a quality case, when even a crappy case provides that much protection, I don't trust them with anything more fragile than a lead brick.
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Post by: Tehz on 27 Jul 2009, 21:47
um..kinda neato (http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/catalog/item/4798917/7161769.htm) :-P
(http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/i//66SILVERTONEsilBLUE_4_.jpg)

 :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
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Post by: Spluff on 27 Jul 2009, 23:40
So I don't know whether to get a tiny terror or a vox night train.

Help, guys.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 28 Jul 2009, 06:42
Tiny Terror.
For serious.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 28 Jul 2009, 07:25
Tiny Terror.
For serious.
I am biased as I've been  rocking the TT for a while. No experience with the Night Train. The TT has been great for me.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 29 Jul 2009, 06:18
i'd first ask yourself what you're looking for out of an amp... especially the low watt ones... because they're all different.

i don't own a TT, but i have plugged into one, and the dual terror for extended periods of time.  owners of both of those models seem to LOVE them..  orange makes great stuff, even if i have other opinions about those particular 2 models. 

my experience with vox, though biased as an owner of a couple of vox amps, is that the quality of their products hasn't been great in quite a few years..  i don't know that i would recommend anyone to buy a new vox product...  but that's just me.  i'd rather tell you to seek out an older AC15 or something.

my father owns a blues junior as he is an old fart and doesn't gig.. as far as low watt amps, i really dig the blues jr, i just don't dig the fact it's gone up $200 in price in the past year..

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Jul 2009, 09:29
I'm looking for a new amp, and some dude told me that a Marshall MG50FX would be a great purchase. Does anyone here have any experience with this amp?
I'm hoping to spend a maximum of about a 1000 $ and i want a versatile amp that I can carry without breaking my back.
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Post by: Christophe on 29 Jul 2009, 09:39
I remember a friend of mine left his Marshall MG100FX at my place for band practice, and I remember it sounding really, really good. Like, pretty convincing and stuff. I like the sound I get out of my Fender Princeton 112+ but if I heard one of those again, I'd probably trade it in a heartbeat.

I don't know where Patrick's been, but I do remember him loving the balls out of his Marshall MG.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 29 Jul 2009, 12:21
I'm looking for a new amp, and some dude told me that a Marshall MG50FX would be a great purchase. Does anyone here have any experience with this amp?
I'm hoping to spend a maximum of about a 1000 $ and i want a versatile amp that I can carry without breaking my back.

I think the MG series has just been updated with some new models but I have the old MG50DFX. It's an alright amp for the price I paid, £150 but I just think it has something lacking. If you're looking for a good hard rock sound then it should be perfect. You should easily be able to get one for under $1000 and thankfully it's quite light so carrying it around is okay. Make sure it comes with the footswitch, for some reason mine didn't and you really need it.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Jul 2009, 17:54
Thanks for the responses, they really helped me decide. I 'll probably pick it up sometime soon.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Jul 2009, 07:41
Oh jeez, if someone was looking for guitar bargains...
http://www.musictoyz.com/blog/network-highlight/guitar-blow-out-sale/ Some prices kind of suck, but I would buy one of those Reverends just for laughs. You know, if I wasn't totes broke.
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Post by: glyphic on 31 Jul 2009, 18:00
You guys, what is this guitar because it looks kickass and I am tempted to buy it no questions asked but I got screwed last time I did that. The price screams "I HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME."

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1293186008.html
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Post by: imapiratearg on 31 Jul 2009, 22:16
Hmm.  Looks like it could be a knockoff of a Gibson Les Paul Special.  I didn't know Epiphone made one, though.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2009, 06:37
I know they did a single-cutaway version, didn't know about a double-cutaway though.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Aug 2009, 07:57
It says it's a neck-through. I didn't know Gibson/Epiphone made any neck-throughs in the les paul shape.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2009, 10:18
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx)

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.
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Post by: doombilly on 01 Aug 2009, 11:24
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://rainbowz-fruit-explosion)

Needs more unicorn.
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Post by: celticgeek on 01 Aug 2009, 11:38
I agree that it needs more unicorn.  Also, more bagpipe might help, since I believe that the guitar uses the MacSeuss plaid.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Aug 2009, 11:56
That's one of the beest looking SG's ive seen in a while.



Don't judge me
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Aug 2009, 13:17
So nobody has any idea what kind of guitar is in that craigslist ad? I am totally digging the way it looks, but the seller won't respond to emails. Pretty lame.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 01 Aug 2009, 14:29
Seems like a copy to me, not a genuine Epi. I could be wrong though.
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Post by: Tehz on 01 Aug 2009, 16:33
I would rock one of those Zoot Suit SG's so hard. I'm pretty serious right now.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Aug 2009, 18:15
If the pickup rings were plain white and the headstock were a different color, I'd play it.  It's actually not that bad compared to some of the other shit that Gibson has released lately.
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Post by: Spluff on 01 Aug 2009, 18:35
That guitar is fucking amazing. You're all blind.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 01 Aug 2009, 20:43
My previous post was about that Craigslist thing, not the Zoot Suit SG. *facepalm for bad timing*

Anyways, I don't mind the looks of that SG to be honest.

Also, I intend on getting this:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/4/5/589945.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Aug 2009, 06:46
WHAT IS IT

I LIKE
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Post by: glyphic on 02 Aug 2009, 10:00
Sir, that is a fine guitar. That body shape is fantastic.

What model is it?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Aug 2009, 10:20
It's beautiful, like a Rickenbacker bass, only not a bass.
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Post by: glyphic on 02 Aug 2009, 10:57
Schecter Stargazer.

Ok, guys. I know Schecter makes some guitars for SHHHREDDDDZ, but they have a ton that I fall in love with instantly.

The Corsair, Stargazer, Ultra-III, and even the Hellcat.

Of course, I own the Ultra-III. The only bad thing about Schecter that I can see is that they use Duncan Designed parts instead of actual Duncan parts. My guitar still sounds fantastic, though.
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Post by: edwinalink on 02 Aug 2009, 11:51
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx)

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

I tihnk its beautiful... but then, I drive a Scion xB and listen to female fronted symphonic power metal... so, my tastes may be suspect...
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Post by: sean on 02 Aug 2009, 13:51
guys i went to guitar center today to get a new chord and strings (mellow strings report on that shit later once i restring my bass) and i saw those new danelectros. i didn't have time to play them though bhhhhhhhhhhh im going back asap though i gotta try that shit out.
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Post by: glyphic on 02 Aug 2009, 14:11
"Yeah, man. I gotta get a new chord. This one totally stopped ringing out. And I'm not buying any of those add9sus2 things, either, so don't even bother."
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Post by: Tehz on 02 Aug 2009, 15:01
I think I want an Epiphone Casino. Either encourage me or do the opposite.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 02 Aug 2009, 18:06
Casinos are bitchin'.  One day I will have a green one with a Bigsby on it.  Like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Epiphone_Casino_VT.jpg).
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Aug 2009, 18:09
You should try one out first.

Also, imeaapiratearg, your link is fucked*

*technobabble
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Post by: imapiratearg on 02 Aug 2009, 18:11
It should be fixed now.  This keyboard is so awesome.  It's like: "Copy and Paste commands? Fuck that noise. I make you right click that shit, son."
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 02 Aug 2009, 18:21
I tried one once and I don't really remember how I felt about it. I wasn't really giving it my fullest attention.  :|
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Post by: greenMonkey on 02 Aug 2009, 19:01
I think I want an Epiphone Casino. Either encourage me or do the opposite.

Try it before you buy it.  I know people who are really satisfied with theirs, but when I tried one I was a little disappointed.  But that may have been because I had a very specific guitar in mind that I wanted (my ASAT), and I was just trying guitars in the same price range for some comparison.

Today I fooled around with Garageband recording a new song idea that has been bouncing around in my head.  While playing around with my new setup (Tribute ASAT Bluesboy Semi-Hollow -> Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive -> Fender Champ 600) I had one of those wonderful musical epiphany moments where I finally dialed in an absolutely gorgeous tone that was just addictive.  I ended up ignoring the song I was recording and jamming over an 8 bar loop I had recorded for like an hour and a half.  The Champ 600 sounds surprisingly good when it's really cranked.  It's got two inputs, a high gain and a low gain, but I tend to ignore the high gain input and just use my SD-1 to push way past overdrive into chunky distortion zone.  I wish it had just a tad bit more clean headroom though; even through the low gain input with my SD-1 off the ASAT will cause it to start breaking up if I play too hard.  My Danelectro is a little less hot, so it sounds really really great clean through the Champ.

Edit: Also, those new Danelectros are so hot.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: billiumbean on 02 Aug 2009, 21:27
Edit: Also, those new Danelectros are so hot.

Indeed they are!  I tried the Dead On 67' Baritone at the guitar shop a few days ago and that thing is SO fine.  Weighs about as much as the guitar strap holding it up.  I would consider that a plus.

I think I want an Epiphone Casino. Either encourage me or do the opposite.

Do it.  I'd recommend getting a couple quality pickups installed, though.  Epiphone tends to build really nice guitars, especially hollowbodies or semi-hollowbodies.  The guitars are usually so good that they give them shitty pickups just so you can still dream of one day owning a "real" Gibson.  Perceived obscellescence, as it were.

I bragged about my Epiphone Sheraton II a few pages ago.  If my house were on fire, I'd run back in to save it.  I'm sure the Casino is a close-enough cousin to the Sheraton to make you feel the same way about it.  I'm setting aside some cash to buy a couple Gibson '57 Classic Humbuckers because I'll probably be playing it for the rest of my life, and Epiphone stock 'buckers just won't do.  I'm sure the Casino's Alnico P-90s are of the same caliber, so just be financially open to the possibility of changing them.

Which reminds me:

Quote from: The Description For The "SG Zoot Suit"
Headstock Logo
The classic Gibson logo is silk-screened onto the face of the headstock veneer. It is the most recognizable in all of music, representing more than a century of originality and excellence. There is simply no equal.

How sad is it that?  That's like putting "Literate" on your resume.

Although this finish is one that I find most titillating:

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/USA/SGs/Zoot-SG/FinishImages/SGZTBWCH1-Finish-Shot.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Jimor on 02 Aug 2009, 21:33
How sad is it that?  That's like putting "Literate" on your resume.

On a recent application to a bookstore, in the "other qualifications" field, after I put "inventory flow management, display merchandising" and a few other retail buzz phrases, I couldn't resist adding at the end: "Alphabet."

And man, I'm not sure if I think that guitar is pretty or not, but if I saw somebody playing it, I would definitely spend some quality eyeball time on it trying to make up my mind.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Aug 2009, 21:38
Apart from the rainbow and the red and blue, those actually look pretty cool. I'm kind of digging that black and orange finish.
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Post by: billiumbean on 02 Aug 2009, 21:59
On a recent application to a bookstore, in the "other qualifications" field, after I put "inventory flow management, display merchandising" and a few other retail buzz phrases, I couldn't resist adding at the end: "Alphabet."

Easily the coolest post I've seen all day.
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Post by: glyphic on 03 Aug 2009, 15:51
I stopped by a shop today and played one of the new Dan Electro 67's, too. I sat there for almost an hour trying to justify the cost. I was getting ready to whip out the credit card when I got a phone call and was dissuaded. Gonna look for a used one, I guess.

It was so awesome. Like greenMonkey said, it is ridiculously light. But it's got the surfer twang like you wouldn't believe. WANT.
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Post by: jeph on 03 Aug 2009, 20:20
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx)

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

It's a fucking PLYWOOD GUITAR.

Ugh.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Aug 2009, 20:34
I don't think anyone would buy it for the tone anyway.
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Post by: est on 03 Aug 2009, 21:51
Also: gg Gibson ripping off the Apple store site's design in its entirety.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Aug 2009, 07:09
I'm with Les Paul in my dislike for the SGs anyway.
In other news I'd been reading here and other places about the jump in prices on Fender guitars. Got the big fat Sweetwater catalog a few weeks ago and JAYSUS FOOKIN HELL. In an economy wherein a lot of poor bastards are selling their prized instruments, artyfacts, and children for a pittance it hardly seems wise to yoink their prices this astronomically. That J5 Triple Deluxe tele is like $1200 now on Sweetwater. That was like an $800 ax last I checked. Damn thing is covered in chrome. You could probably make it out of plywood and no one would notice. :)
Oh well. I ended up getting that Black Widow when I was contemplating that thing. Not sure wtf I was thinking in either case. Except maybe "uuugh black guitar sexxx."
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Post by: Chad K. on 04 Aug 2009, 07:32
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx


SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

It's a fucking PLYWOOD GUITAR.

Ugh.

Woah, woah woah, there, buddy.  It's a fuckng plywood guitar with a Gibson logo...sooo, you know $1000 right there.

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Post by: edwinalink on 04 Aug 2009, 11:02
any guitar that FUCKS is a guitar for me!

...

I'm, just so lonely! :cry:

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Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Aug 2009, 22:03
That's one of the beest looking SG's ive seen in a while.



Don't judge me

Too laaaaaaaaate
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Post by: Headwoünd on 05 Aug 2009, 13:11
If the grey and cream finish paired with the pick-ups' copper doesn't at least look like Teh Sex, I apparently don't know what does.
Good lord that's pretty.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Aug 2009, 14:38
waiting for a pagebreak
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Post by: Spenser on 06 Aug 2009, 22:10
I stopped by a shop today and played one of the new Dan Electro 67's, too. I sat there for almost an hour trying to justify the cost. I was getting ready to whip out the credit card when I got a phone call and was dissuaded. Gonna look for a used one, I guess.

It was so awesome. Like greenMonkey said, it is ridiculously light. But it's got the surfer twang like you wouldn't believe. WANT.

I'm actually really tempted to get one myself.
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Aug 2009, 00:59
SO.

I want an electric guitar. I've played my Yamaha acoustic to death and want something loud and obnoxious. I think I would probably like a Telecaster! I have maybe $600 CAD to spend on the actual guitar, so how cheap do good guitars go for?
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Post by: LeeC on 07 Aug 2009, 04:48
any guitar that FUCKS is a guitar for me!

...

I'm, just so lonely! :cry:


there there.  lonley wolf is lonley. :oops:

Yeah I could use some input on electric guitars.  I've only play acoustic but I am told that really what you need to do is go to a guitar store or music shop and try out the different guitars to find the one that has the sound your looking for and feels comforatable to you.  Play clean and distorted through a couple of songs you know until you find the guitar you feel is right.

as for price it generally depends on where they are made.  I am told the ones made in asia (japan, china, tiawon, ect.)  are generally cheaper than their american and mexican counterparts.  Some hardcore guitarists I've met prefer the ones built in mexico and USA as they had bad expirences with those made in asia (falling apart, defective, broken, sounds completley different from the Mex/US equivilent)  but honestly I dont really know from expierence.
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Post by: doombilly on 07 Aug 2009, 11:08
That is a somewhat useful generalization but it not exactly true. I've had good guitars from Asia and defective ones from N America.
You best bet is to go out and play some.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Aug 2009, 12:50
My main man is Korean and i like it a lot more than many of the American guitars i've played.
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Post by: sean on 07 Aug 2009, 15:23
Melodic get one of those new danelectros! they only cost 350 and they sound pretty rad!
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Aug 2009, 15:36
Oh man that looks like one rad-sounding guitar.

EDIT: Pagebreak 100. Awethome.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 07 Aug 2009, 20:55
SO.

I want an electric guitar. I've played my Yamaha acoustic to death and want something loud and obnoxious. I think I would probably like a Telecaster! I have maybe $600 CAD to spend on the actual guitar, so how cheap do good guitars go for?
I'm too lazy to look up what the exchange rate between Canadian and American dollars, but the G&L Tribute Tele clones are supposed to be fantastic. I have a Fender Tele Standard. Mine's great but I hear their quality is pretty inconsistent, so I'd play the hell out of one before buying it.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 07 Aug 2009, 23:26
I think Canadian and American are roughly the same (I know for awhile there the Canadian was worth more, then the American, then the Canadian).
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Post by: greenMonkey on 08 Aug 2009, 10:53
but the G&L Tribute Tele clones are supposed to be fantastic.

TRUTH.  Mine was $600 US, and plays and sounds just as good if not better than my friend's custom built Chandler Tele clone.

Edit: To pitch in my two cents on the Asia vs. America debate-all my guitars are from Asia.  My Danelectro I believe is from Korea, my acoustic is from China, and my G&L Tribute is from Indonesia.  While the Danelectro definitely is not the best put-together guitar (but what can you expect from something I bought for $180?), it is certainly still playable and sounds good, and my two other axes are just as good if not better than many more expensive American made guitars that I have played.  My advice is do your research and try before you buy.
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Post by: Melodic on 08 Aug 2009, 16:59
Man, I went to three different shops today and all three A) didn't have Danelectros and B) tried to sell me Squier packages. Those fuckers.
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Post by: sean on 08 Aug 2009, 17:27
As much as I hate recommending this, try guitar center. I know the one by me has them.

Man i really hate it guitar center is actually the closest music store to my house. it's the only one I can walk to.
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Post by: billiumbean on 09 Aug 2009, 00:11
What's so bad about Guitar Center?
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Post by: Noff on 09 Aug 2009, 04:56
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

It's a fucking PLYWOOD GUITAR.

Ugh.

But it makes it all better when you call it a laminate instead!
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Aug 2009, 06:34
What's so bad about Guitar Center?
to quote Cake, "you're drinking what they're sellin'"
Quite often they are the only game in town. They hire people that are willing to work for nothing so they get fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt. Don't get technical advice from them, or do the opposite of their advice. Also NEVER buy the sh*t warranty they try to scare you into getting. The manufacturer protects you as long as you need and theirs is utter crap. They LIE and tell you, "Just bring it by and we'll give you another one." What they will give you is a numer to mail your broken sh*t off to and NO idea when it would possibly return, if ever. This is their #1 SCAM.

Having said that, I've gotten thousands of $ worth of gear from them.

They have a lot of quality gear at good prices.

Eric
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Aug 2009, 08:54
That's why i love visiting local stores. People there, they know stuff.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Aug 2009, 10:13
So, I played an Ibanez Artcore AS73 yesterday and was pretty impressed.  It was white and really pretty and sounded pretty good.  It played better than it sounded, though.  The pickups sounded a little thin, even when I backed off the treble.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 09 Aug 2009, 12:39
I have an '04 artcore and the stock pickups are crap.  As is the nut.  By crap I mean total crap.   Replace both and you very seriously have a guitar that 99% of people will be unable to distinguish from an ES-335 for 1/3 of the price.   It's an excellent guitar for what you're paying, if you're willing to spend just a few dollars more after purchase.
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Post by: Spenser on 09 Aug 2009, 12:45
Also, at guitar center you almost always get some teenager that thinks he's awesome tapping on a BC Rich and turning the volume to 11...
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Aug 2009, 13:00
fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt.

Eric

WAIT. too smug for Indie record stores!?!?!? and more musically ignorant?

is that really possible?

 :laugh:
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Aug 2009, 13:23
fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt.

Eric

WAIT. too smug for Indie record stores!?!?!? and more musically ignorant?

is that really possible?

 :laugh:
Well that depends on how much you want to talk about tapping on a BC Rich?
 :wink:
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Aug 2009, 13:32
fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt.

Eric

WAIT. too smug for Indie record stores!?!?!? and more musically ignorant?

is that really possible?

 :laugh:
Well that depends on how much you want to talk about tapping on a BC Rich?
 :wink:


I see your point

*looks at BC Rich in the closet...*

FUCK YOU GUITAR CENTER!
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Aug 2009, 16:49
I have an '04 artcore and the stock pickups are crap.  As is the nut.  By crap I mean total crap.   Replace both and you very seriously have a guitar that 99% of people will be unable to distinguish from an ES-335 for 1/3 of the price.   It's an excellent guitar for what you're paying, if you're willing to spend just a few dollars more after purchase.

Yeah, I definitely would not buy one without replacing the pickups immediately afterward.  They were so weak.  I've come to expect that from Ibanez guitars.
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Post by: All_¥our_Bass on 10 Aug 2009, 00:21
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/All_Your_Bass/

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/extended-range-guitars/64562-so-i-just-restrung-the-kittythulhu-again.html
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Post by: Chad K. on 10 Aug 2009, 09:57
So, I played an Ibanez Artcore AS73 yesterday and was pretty impressed.  It was white and really pretty and sounded pretty good.  It played better than it sounded, though.  The pickups sounded a little thin, even when I backed off the treble.

I have an AF75 hollowbody that I love.  I need to get a bone nut put on it, but the thing osunds great and plays even better.  At $300 bones out the door it was a steal.

Regarding GC- they are annoying because they don't know what they're talking about, and can be pushy because they are on commission.  However, they always have everything other than good used gear.  Also, if you want to buy new, they are easy.  Since every snot-nosed, jerk-off 13 year old with no manners or good sense is allowed to pick up their guitars, they all inevitably have a good scratch in them somewhere.  And, since they work off commission, and aren't the brightest candles on the menora (generally) you can normally talk them down termendously.  That AF75 had a finish scratch on the back of the neck, which resulted in $100 + tax off the price.  All you have to do is ask for something outlandish, and when they say no, be prepared to walk out of the store.  Try something like, "well, I'll just see if anyone else has one.  Thanks."  I have done this with that guitar, a mexi tele that I also got for $300 due to a knick on the bottom and no top hat knob, and some other cases and amp stands, which will get scratched anyway.  Additional fun fact- TKL makes all of the epiphone and ibanez cases (and I think schechter) that GC stocks, and GC stocks those cases in the generic and the ones with the brand name on them.  The TKL they will generally sell with a guitar for $50 and without for $80ish; the name brand ones are normally $100+.  

Additional fun fact-  I am buying an epiphone sheraton this Friday and am ridiculously excited.  Possibly my favorite guitar model ever.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 11 Aug 2009, 17:35
So last week I took my Gibson SG into the local guitar shop for full setup.

The guy who owns the place and sees to the guitars is a GOD. My SG just went from unashamedly rockin' to righteously infernal.
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Post by: Melodic on 11 Aug 2009, 20:18
Vancouver does not have a single Danelectro '67 for sale, anywhere. Fuuuuu
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Aug 2009, 10:27
Fuck i want Jeph's prs. WHY DO YOU ONLY SHIP TO THE US JEPH WHY?!
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Post by: Beastmouth on 12 Aug 2009, 22:26
SO.

I want an electric guitar. I've played my Yamaha acoustic to death and want something loud and obnoxious. I think I would probably like a Telecaster! I have maybe $600 CAD to spend on the actual guitar, so how cheap do good guitars go for?
if you want a tele try and find a squier classic vibe '50s tele.  it's a fantastic guitar and pretty cheap, and it's actually pine-bodied like the first teles
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Post by: Beastmouth on 12 Aug 2009, 22:29
[Guitar Center]  have a lot of quality gear at good prices.
If you get in with the right folks at a local shop, those prices'll start to look a lot worse
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Aug 2009, 05:59
Agreed. But GC has run them all out of business in Charlotte, much like teh Wal-Mart has many a mom-n-pop shops. Suxxxz,.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 15 Aug 2009, 18:31
Dear QC Guitar Thread,

Do you name your guitars?  If so, what are their names?

My Danelectro's name is Donna.  My Tribute's name is Chuck.  So far my acoustic doesn't have a name, so I just call it "The Blueridge".
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Aug 2009, 18:52
i have one electric guitar and one bass, i call them "my electric" and "my bass"

I'm so damn creative
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Post by: Tehz on 15 Aug 2009, 20:36
My Jazzmaster's name is Bilinda.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/kevinandbilinda.jpg)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 16 Aug 2009, 05:26

Do you name your guitars? 

No.   I don't even know how many I have.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Aug 2009, 06:51
lucky bastard
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 16 Aug 2009, 12:21
No, it's a guitar.
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Post by: billiumbean on 17 Aug 2009, 01:51
I named my Sheraton "Aoide" because I didn't like how blank the case looked, so I made this big elaborate collage of a woman playing a flute using masking tape and permanent pen.  Aoide was the muse of songs in Greek mythology.  It's pretty cheesy, I'll admit, but I like it.  It's just pretentious enough to make me feel superior to everyone else in every way without making me too narcissistic.  Or something.

And I'll heed your warnings against Guitar Center.  Reason why I asked is because I live a thousand miles away from them and was oblivious to their notoriety.  I remember Mogwai ranting (http://www.mogwai.co.uk/words/Music_Stores_and_Attitudes/Music_store_personnel_and_their_attitude_towards_customers/) about a guitar store in Glasgow and how rude and dickheaded they were.  I don't get it, what causes this complex in guitar store employees?
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Post by: BlahBlah on 17 Aug 2009, 02:04
Ha! I have been to that shop. I was just browsing through it quickly though.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2009, 05:18
what causes this complex in guitar store employees?
I don't know, spending the whole of every workday listen to an endless loop of people half-assed shredding, thumb popping the bass and other unfortunate musique concrete~collage~barf~ diarrhea would certainly do it to me. If i have to spend more than 10 minutes on a Saturday I'm pretty ready to choke a bitch.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 17 Aug 2009, 06:41
what causes this complex in guitar store employees?
I don't know, spending the whole of every workday listen to an endless loop of people half-assed shredding, thumb popping the bass and other unfortunate musique concrete~collage~barf~ diarrhea would certainly do it to me. If i have to spend more than 10 minutes on a Saturday I'm pretty ready to choke a bitch.

Hmmm... I never thought of it quite that way.  I guess that's rather analogous to the days I used to work in a pretty popular live venue in DC and got so sick of bad college metal bands that I couldn't stand going to work and quit to take a much harder job with far less pay just to preserve my sanity.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2009, 11:38
Exactly. I have some empathy for those guys, but they've given me shet advice and ripped me off on the "warranty" so I am just glad when I leave.
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Post by: Radical AC on 17 Aug 2009, 13:17
Anything I could buy from guitar center I buy online from Musicians Friend so I don't have to pay sales tax.  Unless, of course, it is used.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2009, 13:56
Yeah I do that if it is something I can wait on. Actually if I buy online it is from Sweetwater.com. But I am not SO adverse to sales tax as it pays part of my salary. But yeah, on big ticket items that could be some change.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Aug 2009, 10:17
Guys, I've finally tried the Tiny Terror. My GOD that thing has an amazing metal tone!
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Aug 2009, 17:05
I named my electric Prairie Sunset because of its beautiful cherry sunburst finish.

My acoustic is The Ninja because it is all black (my creativity knows no bounds).

However, I'm probably getting a new one soon, so I'm going to paint shurikens over the fret markers.


Also, I'm thinking I may buy a new electric too, and I've narrowed it down to an Epiphone Les Paul Custom Silverburst (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Epiphone/Ltd-Ed-Les-Paul-Custom-Silverburst.aspx) ($1200) or a Gibson Les Paul Studio (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio.aspx)  ($1800).  Advice?
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Post by: Cire27 on 18 Aug 2009, 19:01
Guys, I've finally tried the Tiny Terror. My GOD that thing has an amazing metal tone!

I really hope I can get one soon.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 18 Aug 2009, 23:52
I named my guitar Arrgh!

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9436/media1x.jpg)

That sticker is the best thing I've ever seen in a touristy gift shop. Ever. :lol:
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Post by: billiumbean on 19 Aug 2009, 06:13
A touristy gift shop.

Why would they sell a frustration sticker at a tourist-centered business?  Isn't it taboo to let it slip that your town is less than perfect?

That aside, I don't think I could ever see myself putting stickers on my guitar.  Takes guts, of which I have none.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Aug 2009, 08:20
Guys, I've finally tried the Tiny Terror. My GOD that thing has an amazing metal tone!

I really hope I can get one soon.
I spent some time with just the guitar plugged into mine last night. Sometimes I forget how awesome it is sans all the other models/efx/etc...I put in the signal path.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 19 Aug 2009, 08:36
I'll chime in with a few more than two cents, if no one minds too much.
First, here's me with two of my basses:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/BastardousBassist/Other%20stuff/outdoorgig.jpg)
That's me in the background after a TERRIBLE gig my high school band played.  I'm the one scratching my face behind the MASSIVE china cymbal.  I'm holding a Modulus Genesis 5 string named Suzanne.  She's my baby as far as electric basses go.  On the far left you can see my rig.  It's expanded a little bit since then with a wireless system, a tuner and a power conditioner (gotta love tax write-offs as a musician).
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/BastardousBassist/Other%20stuff/Richardwithbass.jpg)
That's me after my junior recital.  Somewhere there's a picture of me after my senior recital, but I seemed to have deleted it from my computer.  Anyways, it's a Juzek plywood from the 1930's and I love her.  I haven't named her yet.

I have an Ibanez SR-810 that I converted to fretless.  His name is Jaco, for obvious reasons.  My other rig (aside from the one pictured) is an Acoustic Image Contra that sometimes goes into a Carvin 2x10" cabinet.

As far as guitar center goes, I've heard that it's against company policy to ask someone to turn down when he/she is demoing the gear, which sucks for everyone, really.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Aug 2009, 10:47
Nice URB. My wife wanted one but we just did not have the $.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 19 Aug 2009, 10:55
Yeah, that one came real cheap at $2K US.  It was only that cheap because the neck is from a Kay Bass and the scroll had come off when the guy who sold it to me got it.  He guaranteed the repairs, though.  I highly recommend upright, though.  It's so much more fun.  Another huge recommendation: take lessons to prevent bad habits.  With electric bass, bad habits are less noticeable, but upright takes so much more force that bad habits will destroy your body.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 19 Aug 2009, 10:58
Why would they sell a frustration sticker at a tourist-centered business?

I haven't a clue, but it was just too perfectly random. I had to get it.

Isn't it taboo to let it slip that your town is less than perfect?

I was on vacation.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Aug 2009, 07:42
take lessons to prevent bad habits.
So true. We had an instructor lined up too. Oh well. Looks like this whole yr we'll be broke. Surprise, surprise.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Aug 2009, 08:24
Ah, I know that.  I went from being a musician to being a graduate student!  I've been constantly broke for the past five years.  Well, sometimes good things happen.  As a musician, I might have a good month and as a graduate student I finally got money back on my tax return!
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Post by: Beastmouth on 20 Aug 2009, 14:42
Agreed. But GC has run them all out of business in Charlotte, much like teh Wal-Mart has many a mom-n-pop shops. Suxxxz,.
Well I always go to the Music Center on 74 in Gastonia.  Got an ashtray for my 50s Classic Vibe tele yesterday, and I got an even better price because their supplier was out of stock the first time they ordered it.  Now I have somewhere to rest my hand and not worry about hitting the controls!  (yay upsidedown guitars)
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Post by: Chad K. on 20 Aug 2009, 22:06
Just got my brand new (to me) Epi Sheraton II back from a set up and OH MY GOD!!!  I love this effin' gee-tar.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Aug 2009, 05:47
Agreed. But GC has run them all out of business in Charlotte, much like teh Wal-Mart has many a mom-n-pop shops. Suxxxz,.
Music Center on 74 in Gastonia. 

Yeah. I've been there but it is a haul from my house. But then I got my TT at Mullis in Concord, and my Nitefly at the Music Loft in Greensboro. If you are on that side of the piedmont, there is a pretty good place in Boiling Springs too (Bulldog Music). They work on Ampegs at least.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 22 Aug 2009, 17:47
My Fender is affectionately known as my "Gem" since the specific model is a Fender Gemini II.

My electric guitar is known as Bulimia since the pickup fell out on me once.

I used to have a small sticker on my guitar saying "Trogdor was here" and I was tempted to take a lighter to the finish around it but did not have the courage.
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Post by: Merrick on 23 Aug 2009, 17:14
(http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/i//66SILVERTONEsilBLUE_4_.jpg)

WANT. NOW.
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Aug 2009, 21:05
prefinish:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0349.jpg)

after sanding and finishing:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0353.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0357.jpg)

This was my practice build for a guitar I plan on making when I acquire vast sums of money (specifically about $650).
A thinline Jazzmaster/Tele/Strat/Les Paul hybrid.  Poplar on cedar (wood bought from home depot), but the final real build will be black walnut.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 23 Aug 2009, 21:15
Yay for making your own guitar!  Are you going to build the neck, too?  If so, out of what?
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Aug 2009, 21:31
Oh god no.  This was the 2nd legit electric guitar body I threw together, building a neck takes more talent than I've got I'm afraid.  If anything, for the finished product, I'll go with a USACG one piece maple neck/fretboard.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 23 Aug 2009, 22:00
Blackheart Hothead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrfhamY3Fs).

DAAAAAYUM.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Aug 2009, 22:53

DAAAAAYUM.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Aug 2009, 13:11
So this is my crappy rendering of how my tele will look if I ever do the mods I want.
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/67766/dream-tele.png)

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Post by: Bearer on 27 Aug 2009, 16:24
Guys, Lowden guitars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2vHPt6GfMc
Walnut back and sides; Cedar top
Handcrafted in Ireland.  Can I have 4 grand please?
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Aug 2009, 07:30
Charlotte (NC) Guitar Show is today & Tomorrow http://bit.ly/DZqLu I'm hoping to sell this '64 P bass (http://charlotte.craigslist.org/msg/1346542929.html) neck to pay for my telemod.
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Post by: sean on 30 Aug 2009, 10:26
guys i wanna get my guitar chops up so i can start a 2 piece emo thing. however i dont have an amp right now so can anyone recommend a cheap acoustic guitar that is reasonably okay? i just want like, some steel string thing that stays in tune.

edit: unless you have a really good idea sam reminded me of pawn shops so i should be okay.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Aug 2009, 13:04
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SprZ0_oclpI/AAAAAAAAKKI/k4NE7t1y-G8/s400/DSCF0452.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Gtrshow)

Some pics I took at the guitar show in Charlotte. Click on that one for mo'.
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Post by: Christophe on 30 Aug 2009, 13:15
What? Who stole my Lead II? And priced it 3 bills above what I got it for? AHHHH
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Post by: squawk on 30 Aug 2009, 13:20
THE CORONADO
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 30 Aug 2009, 13:38
I would do terrible, terrible things for that Coronado II.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 30 Aug 2009, 14:15
man, I dig the Coronados but I much prefer the Starcasters.

And there are three on ebay right now. Three, even a black one
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Aug 2009, 14:19
re: coronado. In the late 90's I was in Oly WA for a week of training and I saw two matching natural walnut finish '67 Coronados for sale.
I understand the pickups are not stellar, but that could be fixed. :P

Story behind the 'Antigua' finish the guy told me:
When they were doing the install of the binding on the F holes, they burned it around the edges. or something like that. Then they just applied the same technique on all the edges to create the "Antigua" finish.

Ooops. Honestly it is not that visually appealing to me. But kind of a cool story.

No takers on the P bass neck.

Shit.

Oh well I will just keep posting it on Craiglist until I sell it. No rush.

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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Aug 2009, 20:35
'57 JAZZMASTER IS SO PRETTY.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 Sep 2009, 05:50
So last night I was conscripted to roadie for a bass clinic that was happening near me that my daughter and I were planning to attend.  Amongst the gear I hauled are the two basses pictured below.    These are the actual basses that are played when Deathklok tours.  The red one on the right was used on the first tour, but the T-bass on the left is the one used currently.   Down tuned an entire third.  Sheesh.

Excellent clinic by the way.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_3468.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Sep 2009, 10:08
You guys know I'm pretty smitten with my LP Junior clone, right? Well..thanks, Epiphone. I want to sell it now, and get this $380 beauty.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/4/2/613242.jpg)
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Post by: Aegir on 03 Sep 2009, 11:10
I've always wanted a semi-affordable semi-hollowbody. I stumbled upon this one the other day, the "Epiphone Limited Edition Riviera Custom P93". Selling for only $500 new, and that includes a hardshell case. When/if I finally get a job somewhere, I could afford this in just a few months.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/9/1/566991.jpg)
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 03 Sep 2009, 12:36
DO WANT.
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Post by: Merrick on 03 Sep 2009, 14:39
I wuvs my baby.

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/MintyM15/Picture0002-1.jpg)

Cost me £20. Or about $32.
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Post by: The Duke on 03 Sep 2009, 17:35
Score!
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Post by: Tehz on 03 Sep 2009, 19:20
You guys know I'm pretty smitten with my LP Junior clone, right? Well..thanks, Epiphone. I want to sell it now, and get this $380 beauty.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/4/2/613242.jpg)

Damn those are hot. I love the Batwing headstock.

I've been considering getting a Squier CV Telecaster but those are pretty tempting also. Swap out the stock pups for some Seymour Duncans and it would be a BEAST.
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Post by: Thrillho on 04 Sep 2009, 06:42
I just got a Danelectro '63. It's fucking hideous, and I fucking LOVE IT. It's like a car from the fifties, and it sounds great. The clean tone sings beautifully on all pickup settings, but better yet it's got a great dirty overdriven sound, great for punk and classic rock.

Here it is:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DynamiteKid156/DSCF0046.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DynamiteKid156/DSCF0047.jpg)

It's the little things I like about it. Aside from its great tone and being so ugly that it's beautiful, I like the fact that where the strap pin is, it curves inwards instead of just being rounded off. I can't wait to play this guitar in a suit, because the contrast between it and what I'm wearing will be great.

It'll go great against my wedding suit.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Sep 2009, 09:24
I played a very hideously cute orange one at GC (whilst picking up yet another microphone). Fun. But the tuners looked suspiciously unreliable.
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Post by: Thrillho on 04 Sep 2009, 12:06
Yeah, it doesn't stay in tune that well, so it's not one for much soloing - but for big dumb chords it's fucking awesome.
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Sep 2009, 16:15
My Dead On '67 should be in tomorrow... god damn that is a hideous sexy guitar.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 04 Sep 2009, 21:12
Yeah, it doesn't stay in tune that well, so it's not one for much soloing - but for big dumb chords it's fucking awesome.

That's interesting.  The tuners on my Dano re-issue, which I think is from the late 90's, are excellent.  That guitar hardly ever goes out of tune.  I can leave it for a month and come back and it will still be in tune.
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Sep 2009, 05:49
Well everything else on the guitar is at such a high standard, something had to give, especially for under £200.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Sep 2009, 06:40
but for big dumb chords it's fucking awesome.

Dog, you have no clue how much I want a Dano after reading this. Seriously.

I like playing big dumb chords.
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Sep 2009, 07:10
I just played a bunch of songs by the Hives and Green Day and The Vines on it, and it worsk PERFECTLY for it, because it refuses to go any fuzzier than 'loud overdrive.' No matter what effects you put on it, it's still defiantly garage-punk. It's fucking glorious.

Also, oddly enough, it's tuning has stayed perfect today. I have no idea why it was so off yesterday (maybe humidity or something?) but today I've played it 90 minutes straight soloing all over the place and it still tunes perfectly.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Sep 2009, 07:59
Seriously, stop it! I'm supposed to be wanting that Wilshire, not a Dano.
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Sep 2009, 09:00
NEVAR! I must spread the beauty of the Danelectro.
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Sep 2009, 14:59
God damn man you have EXCITED me.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 05 Sep 2009, 21:08
it refuses to go any fuzzier than 'loud overdrive.' No matter what effects you put on it, it's still defiantly garage-punk. It's fucking glorious.

As if I didn't want a Danelectro enough already  :lol:
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Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Sep 2009, 21:41
Yeah, the lipstick tubes have a really interesting output.  They don't get disgusting easily.  My Dano does clean so nicely, and then gets just a bit growly if I crank it up.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Sep 2009, 06:45
Okay now I'm waning. I need crazy motherfucking fuzzed out GWAARRRRRRHHHHHHHHGHHH sounds sometimes.

Edit: I put my LP Junior clone up for sale on OSG. If you want it, let me know. $430 shipped in the US.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 07 Sep 2009, 21:04
you guys are so funny... today i was at work thinking about how i wanted to trade in my 74' crestwood for one of those dano reissues.  i kind of have a hard on for them. 
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 Sep 2009, 09:43
Get one, man. They're fucking AWESOME.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 11 Sep 2009, 18:34
Now that I have a Tele (technically an ASAT) with a humbucker, I want a Jazzmaster style guitar.  I think that sometime in the (distant) future, I might follow Jeph and go after a Creston.  I'd love to get a Creston Jazzmaster with Bigsby and Lollar P-90's.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 12 Sep 2009, 18:35
Holy shit, this guitar (http://crestonguitars.com/guitars/detail.php?id=152) with the Lollar P-90's that look like Jazzmaster pickups.  That would be perfect.
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Post by: Commodore on 13 Sep 2009, 10:02
HI GUITAR THREAD

I'm in the market for a new acoustic-electric guitar, and I found an ad in the paper for a Carvin AC175 for 500 dollars.  Considering Carvin is selling that model for twice that price online, I am kind of excited about this.  However, before this recent flurry of guitar research after I got the wild hair up my ass to buy one, I had never heard of Carvin guitars.  Are they good guitars?
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Sep 2009, 11:45
Carvin's CAN be good. However if you need a repair to the electronics you'll be sending it back to them. And they may/may not fix it and send it back ignoring any detailed communications you may have sent with the guitar, described in email, and/or told them about on the phone. Also their resale value is crap.

Having said that, I've had mixed luck with Carvin, but have not actually purchased any guitar (only 1 bass). So probably worth it to by used maybe not retail.
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Sep 2009, 22:59
Steve Vai has his own signature line (http://www.carvinguitars.com/vai/) of Carvin amps. Judge as you will.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Sep 2009, 02:40
Hey whatever you think of Steve Vai's music or aesthetic you'd be pretty silly if you couldn't bring yourself to admit that the guy must know an awful lot about guitars+amps
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Post by: Ballard on 14 Sep 2009, 06:52
This is true. In fact, I've heard from a few reliable sources that those amps are fucking ace.

But I could not resist the crack.
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Sep 2009, 11:21
haha, yeah I have a Peavey 5150 combo. I think you could say I am about the least metal/Van(F%*%ing)Halen fan. But the amp when it was in good repair had AWESOME tone.
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Post by: Bearer on 16 Sep 2009, 07:59
My dad has this little old Peavy Backstage Plus 30W solid state monster.  He replaced the speaker with some celestron, and the thing has got some seriously great clean sounds if you dial it in right.  However, those magic settings are pretty hard to find.
(http://www.in8sworld.net/photos/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4730&g2_serialNumber=2)
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Sep 2009, 18:44
My Dano arrived today, and I'm fairly certain it's got to be one of the first to cross into the Great White North. It sounds great, even on my cheap Peavey Vyper 15. The pickups are really impressive, they go straight from a really nice clean tone to gain-fueled distortion mess; there is absolutely NO in-between, it's lovely.

Vibrato feels a lot sturdier than I thought it would, and it's really goddamn light. I think my strap weighs more than it does. I managed to pick it up for $325 CDN, I am in love. Pics forthcoming.
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 16 Sep 2009, 21:35
Next amount of money I get I'm probably buying a Dano, they're amazing.

I got an acoustic, and I was wondering do I need one of those humidifier thingies?

Does anyone know whether these things are actually useful.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Sep 2009, 21:49
Humidifiers are a Really Good Idea. They're cheap and, assuming you and your acoustic are in it for the long haul, prevent a lot of unfortunate environmental damage to your guitar over a reaaally long span of time.

//

Truly, red is the ballsiest of colors.

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5160/dano1.jpg)(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1001/dano2j.jpg)
The left photo is almost exactly the shade of red that the guitar is -- the one on the left is just overexposed.
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Post by: Ballard on 16 Sep 2009, 22:54
Oh man please tell me the above Dano is a re-issue and not some vintage model you saw somewhere?

'cause DO WANT.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Sep 2009, 23:13
Tat is a very excellent looking guitar but I can never get over how when you're not looking too closely it looks like two guitars photoshopped together
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Sep 2009, 07:25
Gene, I believe that is the "Dead-On '67" reissue that just came out.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 17 Sep 2009, 08:34
I got an acoustic, and I was wondering do I need one of those humidifier thingies?

It depends.  Do you live/keep your guitar in a very humid area?  If not, then you don't need one, but if where you keep your guitar dries out, it would be a good idea.  Not only does it keep damage from happening (which becomes significant over a long period of time), it helps keep your guitar in the same tune in which you bought it, and keeps the neck just as playable as it always was.
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Post by: sean on 17 Sep 2009, 14:24
it is in matter of fact the dano reissue. i played one in guitar center its pretty cool.

in fact...

Melodic get one of those new danelectros! they only cost 350 and they sound pretty rad!

i win the thread forever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 17 Sep 2009, 15:47
o/
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Post by: Ballard on 17 Sep 2009, 19:02
If Dano made those in standard sunburst (though that would defeat the purpose of really cheap, nice-playing guitars) I would be jizzing all over my pants right now.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Sep 2009, 22:53
You guys suck, now i have to get a Dano as well.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2009, 10:31
So those Danos are all Baritones?
Also-
 http://www.compositeelectrics.com <---you guys will likely hate this. But me = spoooojed

(http://www.compositeelectrics.com/Images/Header/blade_4_large.jpg)


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Post by: E. Spaceman on 18 Sep 2009, 12:33
(http://www.fatdawg.com/dawgpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/0028049-R1-054-25A.jpg)


Seven hundo
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Post by: BlahBlah on 18 Sep 2009, 12:43
Is that a Travis Bean?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 18 Sep 2009, 12:54
Nope, Kramer. Still pretty sweet, and still aluminum enough for all your shellac/jesus lizard/etc. needs.

Also I really wanna try a carbon fiber guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 18 Sep 2009, 13:58
\o
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Sep 2009, 15:29
http://www.compositeelectrics.com <---you guys will likely hate this. But me = spoooojed

The neck in my electric bass has graphite in it and my bow is made of carbon fiber (metropolitan; David Gage's collaboration with CodaBows).  I also played a pit gig with a woman whose entire cello was made of carbon fiber.  She loved it, and it looked badass.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2009, 17:52
I play mostly a Parker Nitefly M that the fingerboard is carbon fiber. Slick as owl shit on terazza.

Shit is cool. Think I cold beat up 3 alt-country bands with the CE Blade and only suffer minor tuning problems. Or I could just be too beer drunk?
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Sep 2009, 18:13
Naw, that sounds about right.  The review I read rated it as 2.5 alt country bands, but I saw a picture of the guy, and he was way scrawny.

With my electric bass, I once checked it on a flight from Charleston, SC -> Newark, NJ -> Washington, DC.  It was maybe 50-60F in Charleston, snowing in NJ and probably in the 40's in DC.  Also, keep in mind that it was in the cargo compartment.  I showed up at my rehearsal in DC and it was perfectly in tune.
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Post by: Melodic on 18 Sep 2009, 21:56
So those Danos are all Baritones?

Nope.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Sep 2009, 05:05
I've never played a baritone before, how awesome are they?
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Post by: Thrillho on 19 Sep 2009, 06:00
...Did I start a Dano trend, or was this happening anyway? My Dano is still fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Sep 2009, 11:41
So those Danos are all Baritones?

Nope.
okay. kool. I have enough trouble remembering to put pants on before going to work. Another tuning would totally f up my world. I coulda sworn I saw one in the burst 'finish' at GC last week. I think I'd have to opt for the bright orange or another unholy color. In fact the orange would look spiffy with my orange tolex avatar...

But then you could not beat up even one alt Country band without it shattering (so I'd have to carry my Mustang for that...)
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Post by: greenMonkey on 19 Sep 2009, 14:48
...Did I start a Dano trend, or was this happening anyway? My Dano is still fucking awesome.

This forum has had a collective boner for Dano's for a while now.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Sep 2009, 12:03
Danosexuals!
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Sep 2009, 14:44
Guitar thread,

You may remember me detailing the trouble UPS caused with my Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. To recap, they dropped it and ran a forklift into it, thereby completely destroying it. I managed to get a refund and bought this:

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11350-1.jpg)

It is so much better.

Sovtek Mig-50 running through an Ampeg V-12. The lows are so meaty and the highs are perfectly below the land of shrill awfulness. Plus, It is loud. So loud.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 20 Sep 2009, 17:06
(http://ui16.gamespot.com/2607/capture2_2.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Sep 2009, 22:38
(http://faystar.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/orgasm060906_400x700.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Sep 2009, 07:21
Jeeebz. What's that Ampeg cabinet weigh?

EDIT

Also must...fight...Dano... GAS...while...Parker in the shop...next...week.
Seriously if that was a 2xhumbucker guitar I'd get one just as my new backup.
In other news, combining 2 trips to Greensboro to get both the Parker and the Line6 repaired at the same time is only saddened by the fact I cannot get both fixed at the same place EVEN though the one shop could do both (but doesn't have the warranty biz contract with Guitard Center). Will continue that part of the saga in Guitar Pederast Pedal thread...
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Post by: glyphic on 21 Sep 2009, 16:07
The guitar cab is actually not too heavy. However, I'm used to hauling around a 4x10 Ampeg bass cab which weighs almost as much as a neutron star.

The awesome thing about the cab is that the previous owner was an electrical engineer and wired it for stereo. Plus, he mounted sweet-ass doors on the front. Overall, I am pleased.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 21 Sep 2009, 20:27
Bigger is better.  I put wheels on my 1x15" bass cab, and they were maybe 1" to 1-1/2" and they just can't cut it on any rough terrain.  Aside from that, your local home improvement shop will probably have really cheap casters.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2009, 07:13
Ooooh, I might be trading that LP Junior clone for a Vista series Jagmaster. Sunburst/tort, but I'd likely refinish it in sherwood/british racing green.
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Post by: sean on 22 Sep 2009, 07:22
sam the dude has a point unless you can find some tiny ass rims.
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Sep 2009, 14:11
http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Blogs/Gibson-USA-Blog/September-2009/Live-From-the-Production-Line-at-Gibson-USA.aspx

Gentlemen, I present Gibson's Jimi Hendrix signature model...
(http://www2.gibson.com/getfile/2b43d7c1-f533-41d3-8218-1460adfbabfc/guitar-004.aspx)
(http://www2.gibson.com/getfile/1ee568e0-0474-42ec-84a0-e745dfdda3cc/guitar-006.aspx)
(http://www.guitarworld.com/sites/future.p2technology.com/files/imce-images/news-jh2.jpg)

Also:
http://www.guitarworld.com/article/gibson_amp_authentic_hendrix_announce_3_new_hendrix_guitars

... :?
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 23 Sep 2009, 14:35
I smell a lawsuit.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Sep 2009, 14:37
Gibsocaster is lame. I'm not a fan of sig guitars. But sig guitars that the signifier never played seems retarded. Meh, they are cheap.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 23 Sep 2009, 14:38
I find it ironic that Gibson sued PRS for the Singlecut being similar to the Les Paul, yet here they are, obviously ripping off Fender.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Sep 2009, 15:15
It's marketing to the parents. $400 gets you a guitar, amp, fuzz pedal. Just in time for Kwanzaa. In other news I am putting out a fiberglass rear wheel drive muscle car called the Coorveete.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 23 Sep 2009, 22:30
Oh my God that headstock is straight-up awful
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Sep 2009, 06:58
I...what?

WHAT?

I'm so confused.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 24 Sep 2009, 08:48
“What if the world’s greatest guitarist was still alive today, what guitar would he want to play?”


...a cheapo strat clone?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 24 Sep 2009, 14:58
But Andy Cohen is still alive?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 24 Sep 2009, 16:54
I was going to say that Paul Gilbert plays his own series of guitars (http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/Series-pgm).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Sep 2009, 21:42
...with fake f-holes.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the "Greatest" "Guitarist" "In" "The" "World"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Sep 2009, 21:43
WOW MAN THAT'S ALMOST AS COOL AS A FUCKING GUITAR WITH A HANDLE CUT OUT OF IT
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 24 Sep 2009, 21:48
Of course it's got fake f-holes.  How else could it be ridiculous while still being practical?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Sep 2009, 22:39
You aren't shittalking the "Fireman"?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Sep 2009, 01:19
Hey guys there is a class action lawsuit that has been filed against Guitar Center and NAMM for conspiring to fix prices.

The lawsuit also alleges that Guitar Center attempted to quash competition from online retailers by threatening to boycott suppliers that dealt with online stores.

If you bought a fretted instrument (guitar, bass, banjo, mandolin, violin etc. etc.) from Guitar Center between 2005 & 2007 you are eligible to join the class action here (http://www.hbsslaw.com/frontend?command=JoinClassAction&iLawsuitId=2075).

Fuck Guitar Center.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Sep 2009, 01:21
Also while I'm at it Fuck This Product (http://www.shredneck.com/index.html)

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Sep 2009, 05:18
WOW MAN THAT'S ALMOST AS COOL AS A FUCKING GUITAR WITH A HANDLE CUT OUT OF IT
What if it had fake cut-out handles? That would be teh w1n!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 25 Sep 2009, 10:16
Ok. Hold on. What the fuck is the Shredneck?! When would that EVER be more practical than just using a guitar?!


Fake edit:

Oh! When you're on an airplane and just can't contain your urge to totally mash out some sick Slayer riffs! Assuming, of course, the damn thing doesn't get confiscated at security for looking exactly like a mace.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Sep 2009, 10:22
I spent a solid half-hour on that website trying to work out why anybody would ever buy one of those things. Still stumped.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 25 Sep 2009, 10:28
I love the slideshow at top-right. It looks to me like nearly everyone is holding the stupid thing upside down. Unless that's how you're supposed to hold it. Are you supposed to strum the damned thing? I don't understand a single thing about it!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Sep 2009, 10:30
You aren't shittalking the "Fireman"?

Apparently it's more obvious that one's a joke?  They're all jokes, which is my favorite part.  I'm not sure if Paul Gilbert has the capacity to be serious.

Also, I've discovered a use for the Shredneck!  No, wait, I haven't.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Sep 2009, 12:38
When they come out with my signature model, you'll have to pre-pay for the motherf()cker. They guitar will be delivered to ME once you pay for it. I'll play it until I get drunk and leave it somewhere. The only unique feature will be a homing beacon/gps/thang that will tell you what pawn shop/land fill/whorehouse/blacklightenemapit it ended up at.
People with un-butt smelling pristine EC sig guitarz will be scorned in the best cases and torn to shreds (hubris style) in the worse. Whoever rips off the peen gets to keep that axe. But they have to abuse it. So basically only retarded people would want one, or more PC stated, people whose moms bought them the Gibsofuckasterator pictured above.
The end. Vote for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Sep 2009, 13:23
I love the slideshow at top-right. It looks to me like nearly everyone is holding the stupid thing upside down. Unless that's how you're supposed to hold it. Are you supposed to strum the damned thing? I don't understand a single thing about it!

yeah the the tuners are at the bottom. Look at the inlays.



Still doesn't make sense though. It would be more practical to practice on a fuckin' Rock Band controller.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Sep 2009, 14:54
people whose moms bought them the Gibsofuckasterator pictured above.

Hey, man.  Some very decent people have parents who just have no fucking clue.  So, you should change that probably to "people whose moms bought them the Gibsofuckasterator pictured above, on purpose.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Stewey on 27 Sep 2009, 03:14
Oh awesome, a guitar thread.  :-D

The bit I don't get about the Jimi guitar is why aren't Fender making it? :?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Sep 2009, 05:25
I dont know guys, I've seen the build fotos, and while it is even worse than epiphone, could it be worse than squier? Me thinks naught.

I wouldnt buy it, since (I think) I'm out of starter pack league, but still, seems interesting.

Ugly strats ftw.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Sep 2009, 12:39
FUCK YES YOU GUYS I FOUND A FUCKING GIBSON SG-1 AND IT IS NOW MINE FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Sep 2009, 13:42
Pics please.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 27 Sep 2009, 13:51
I dont know guys, I've seen the build fotos, and while it is even worse than epiphone, could it be worse than squier? Me thinks naught.

I wouldnt buy it, since (I think) I'm out of starter pack league, but still, seems interesting.

Ugly strats ftw.

Attack! Attack! is even worse than Hawthorne Heights, but could they be worse than Brokencyde?


the problem is not if it is the lowest end of the ladder but rather that it exists at all
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Sep 2009, 19:47
The fact that I don't know any of those bands really does make me happy. This however, proves your point:

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Pianos/Grand/Baldwin-Custom/Jimi-Hendrix.aspx

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3360654016_26c61a7dd3.jpg)

If he wasn't long dead already, this would definately be it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 27 Sep 2009, 22:14
Your link is no good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 27 Sep 2009, 22:52
I saw a bottle of "Jimi Hendrix Electric" Vodka in a Liquor store in St Louis a while ago. The booze was probably shit but the bottle looked kind of cool
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 28 Sep 2009, 10:29
link corrected.

Apologies, apologies.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Sep 2009, 06:00
What the hell didn't the Jimi Hendrix estate used to be really stingy with who they'd license stuff for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2009, 06:38
Guys, my girlfriend bought an acoustic guitar yesterday! I'm going to be teaching her how to play.

I am pretty excited, not gonna lie.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 29 Sep 2009, 10:37
I was in that position once. It was horrible. The girlfriend at the time didn't take kindly to instruction, though. Plus, "THE STRINGS HURT MY FINGERS!"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 29 Sep 2009, 11:35
Srsly be careful with that. If she sticks with it at all, have her take lessons; from someone else. But then you might be a great teacher. So, maybe I should just stfu.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 29 Sep 2009, 11:55
want some of that Hendrix purple drank.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Sep 2009, 06:59
I was in that position once. It was horrible. The girlfriend at the time didn't take kindly to instruction, though. Plus, "THE STRINGS HURT MY FINGERS!"

Haha. She just wants me to teach her basic chords and how to read tab. She's taking a basic guitar class at college next semester.

And for the fingers, probably not a problem. She already plays cello and violin, among others.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 01 Oct 2009, 06:49
*wink wink nudge nudge*
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Oct 2009, 20:47
Guys, it occurred to me today that I haven't played electric guitar in over a month, because both my electrics and my amp are back at home, and I'm at college (I do have my acoustic though).  I miss making loud noises!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 05 Oct 2009, 11:17
Guys i played (a guitar that looked just like) this Saturday and DID NOT buy it. I has a sad.
(http://www.rocknrollweekend.com/T-60%201979%20-%20full%20V.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 05 Oct 2009, 14:51
T-60s are effin' gorgeous. Why didn't you buy it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 05 Oct 2009, 20:03
Oh guys, I played one of those Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics yesterday. I AM IN FUCKING LOVE OH MY GOD I COULD NOT PUT IT DOWN

AND IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 05 Oct 2009, 20:55
Oh guys, I played one of those Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics yesterday. I AM IN FUCKING LOVE OH MY GOD I COULD NOT PUT IT DOWN

AND IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS



i was wondering about those. I like the look of them, but I'm gonna resist. Too many Squiers, I want a bona fide Fender nao
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Oct 2009, 21:15
Oh guys, I played one of those Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics yesterday. I AM IN FUCKING LOVE OH MY GOD I COULD NOT PUT IT DOWN

AND IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS



Yes.  If I hadn't purchased my Tribute ASAT, I would have picked up one of these.  They are awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 06 Oct 2009, 05:27
T-60s are effin' gorgeous. Why didn't you buy it?
"Big" "Tour" (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,23910.0.html) coming up. Have to save for diesel fuel, cheetohs, dog boarding, motels...etc..
That T-60 was sweet though. Kind of rough hew looking yet obviously the kind of indestructo guitar one should have in a guitar fight.

In other news, my Nitefly is done at the shop and I'm waiting for my POD to be fixed (parts from CA). So I've been going through the stable of backup guitars to take with on the aforementioned outing. It's come down to my first stick: the '78 Mustang. Also playing through just the TT/Avatar rig with no signal processing has been an eye opener. If I just had a guitar gnome to run over and turn the three knobs on the TTerror at specific times in the songs I'd be set with just that gear alone. The competition was between the 95MIM Tele (crap bridge disqualified it); the 72 Acoustic Black Widow (great on some settings to meh on others, noisy assed pickups) , and the Yamaha AEX500 (bad luck to take a guitar my ex-wife bought for me, more of an acoustic axe, 11 guage flat wounds, not a good unprocessed through my rig sound should summat bad happen on the road).

In other nudes, I'm told we 'have' to use the clubs backline cabinets at the Chicago show. So, GUYS I get to play the Tiny Terror through a Marshall 4x12 cabinet. Awesome? Or not?

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Oct 2009, 07:22
Should sound pretty epic.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 06 Oct 2009, 08:09
If I just had a guitar gnome to run over and turn the three knobs on the TTerror at specific times in the songs I'd be set with just that gear alone.

We had a similar problem in a band I used to be in.  Our solution was to train a monkey.  Unfortunately, that proved to be slightly more expensive than anticipated and didn't really pan out.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 06 Oct 2009, 08:29

In other nudes, I'm told we 'have' to use the clubs backline cabinets at the Chicago show. So, GUYS I get to play the Tiny Terror through a Marshall 4x12 cabinet. Awesome? Or not?
That's Steven Malkmus' touring rig with the Jicks. It sounded fantastic when I saw them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Oct 2009, 08:37
I forgot about that! Malkmus sounded amazing when I saw the Jicks last year.

Guys, Gibson's..aw fuck it, you figure out what they did this time that's pissed me off.


(hint: they're making a robot LP Special, but calling it an LP Junior)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 06 Oct 2009, 10:38
RE: G&L Guitars

The town I'm going to college in has a guitar shop that sells G&L guitars, and I've tried both an ASAT Special and a Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow and I absolutely adore both of them.  They play so incredibly well.

This shop also sells Barber effects.  This makes me incredibly happy.
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Post by: Bearer on 06 Oct 2009, 16:02
A black Gretsch Electromatic with a bigsby came into the pawn shop near my house and they want $430 for the beauty.  As much as I actually want to make the next guitar I own, that is a damn tempting offer.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 06 Oct 2009, 17:13
RE: G&L Guitars

The town I'm going to college in has a guitar shop that sells G&L guitars, and I've tried both an ASAT Special and a Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow and I absolutely adore both of them.  They play so incredibly well.

This shop also sells Barber effects.  This makes me incredibly happy.

Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow.  I loves mine so much!

Also, where do you go to college?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 06 Oct 2009, 22:10
I have a potentially silly question! I went out and bought a gig bag for my Dano, and it fits fine but the case puts a wee bit of pressure on the vibrato arm. Seeing as it's basically a metal matchstick anyway, I'm worried that it might snap, or that the continuous pressure on the bridge would be bad. Am I being paranoid?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 07 Oct 2009, 04:04
I don't think so. More likely to get the bridge/springs out of whack. Can you take it off before you put it in the gig bag? That way you'll lose it in a week; problem solved.
 :-P
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Post by: Chad K. on 13 Oct 2009, 09:44
So, anybody have any good recommendations for quirky online guitar shops?  Currently my favorite are these guys-

http://www.diamondstrings.com  Lots of 60's and 70's european stuff.  (Doombilly- given your sweet acoustic black widow, I would think the washburn falcons would be right up your alley).  I bought a bass from Bruce Diamond a while back.  He was very easy to deal with.

Also, http://www.fatdawg.com .  I've mentioned these guys before; they have lots of weird stuff. The really cool aspect is that they bought up a lot of fender and danelectro parts when their respective american plants closed.  You can get strats, teles and danos assembled from vintage american parts for around $400.  I've never used them, but I hear some pretty mixed reviews about customer service.

Anybody else have online stores they dig?  (Don't even think about posting GC or MF.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 13 Oct 2009, 09:51
Jimmy Gravity's is a local shop, but they do online orders. Does that count?

www.gravitystrings.com (http://www.gravitystrings.com)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Oct 2009, 10:39
Also, http://www.fatdawg.com .  I've mentioned these guys before; they have lots of weird stuff. The really cool aspect is that they bought up a lot of fender and danelectro parts when their respective american plants closed.  You can get strats, teles and danos assembled from vintage american parts for around $400.  I've never used them, but I hear some pretty mixed reviews about customer service.

Patrick and I had all the intention in the world of going there last October, but alas, they're apparently closed on Sundays. Dammit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Oct 2009, 10:40
I am banning myself from guitar purchases for a while. Got leads on gigs in Savannah GA and NYC. Must save for diesel fuel, lodging.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 13 Oct 2009, 11:16
Jimmy Gravity's is a local shop, but they do online orders. Does that count?

www.gravitystrings.com (http://www.gravitystrings.com)

I'm originally from St. Louis.  That is an awesome shop, and the best place in the country to get guitarwork done as far as I'm concerned.  I also really dig Eddie's Guitars, although that's more high-end stuff. 

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 13 Oct 2009, 12:39
http://www.diamondstrings.com  Lots of 60's and 70's european stuff.  (Doombilly- given your sweet acoustic black widow, I would think the washburn falcons would be right up your alley).  I bought a bass from Bruce Diamond a while back.  He was very easy to deal with.

Man, I haven't seen a site that pretty since my first meeting with the internet in 1999.

A black Gretsch Electromatic with a bigsby came into the pawn shop near my house and they want $430 for the beauty.  As much as I actually want to make the next guitar I own, that is a damn tempting offer.

Are you talking about the semi-hollow or the Pro Jet? The former, in my experience, sound and feel cheap. Also IIRC they retailed for like $500.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Oct 2009, 07:10
I sold my Les Paul Jr. clone.

Am now debating putting a GFS Dream 90 in the neck position of my Tele Custom, because I love that neck-position P-90 sound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 14 Oct 2009, 08:48
Anybody else have online stores they dig?  (Don't even think about posting GC or MF.)

I've got fairly the opposite, but in a way that will not help anybody.  It's Lemur music, which is a bass shop, but primarily for upright players.  Don't buy anything there, and encourage nobody else to buy anything there.  I bought an amp from them, because they're pretty much the place you buy from if you're an upright player and don't have a shop in your area.  Well, it was obviously used and didn't work right.  I sent it back to them and they sent me a new one, but I had to eat the shipping costs for the shitty one because I didn't make a big enough fuss over it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 14 Oct 2009, 11:01
May I suggest these guys if you're looking to do online bass business- http://www.thebassplace.com  They are amazing, and know their stuff.  Small shop, but with a pretty big selection.  The best time to hit them up is right safter NAMM.  They buy up a lot of the NAMM exhibit pieces and sell them pretty cheaply.  I've dealt them with them quite a bit.  I would think bass emporium would be good too; they get a lot of lip service- http://www.bassemporium.com/ I don't have any one on one experience, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 14 Oct 2009, 11:22
I have actually spoken with the guys from the Bass Emporium.  After my last amp got stolen, I needed a new one really fast, but the new model of the amp I wanted/previously owned had just come out and no one the old one and the new one was sold out.  I ended up calling every Acoustic Image vendor in the country.  A small place in MA ended up getting back to me a couple weeks later.

p.s.  If you like amps that sound clean and amazing, are light and have a fantastic service department, check out Acoustic Image.  I'd be hard-pressed to find an amp that I enjoy more (I do like David Eden amps, but they're crazy expensive and heavy).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Oct 2009, 12:16
Where's the best place to try to sell an electric bass or part of one (that is not eBay)?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 14 Oct 2009, 12:55
Depends on what it is.  The obvious choice is always craigslist.  If it's weird, I'd think about contacting Diamondstrings.  Otherwise, http://www.talkbass.com is good, but requires a $30 membership.  I've sold tons of stuff there and it always goes well. Alternatively, for no money you could sell at http://www.tdpri.com.  It's a telecaster forum, so they tend to be more guitar oriented, but they definitely do have people selling basses there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2009, 08:02
Gibson, just..just stop. STOP. Alright? Stop.

(http://images.gibson.com/Files/8e5bad70-b669-4e43-a387-6bc7af02cb34.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Oct 2009, 08:06
I would love it without the sharkbite. Gibson should stop putting holes in their old models and calling them new ones.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 25 Oct 2009, 10:54
anyone up for a shark core band?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 25 Oct 2009, 10:54
i guess its like crabcore except you faux swim around the place yr playing and eat yr fans.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 25 Oct 2009, 13:15
instead of stock MicroKorg settings all the samples are taken from Jaws
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 25 Oct 2009, 13:21
Here's my dilemma.

I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

However, next year my grade goes on a trip to Europe which will cost much money.  

So my choices are:

A.) Buy the guitar now and work my ass off next summer to pay off the trip

B.) Don't buy the guitar, work up all my money again from scratch, get the guitar much later

C.) Don't go on the trip or buy the guitar, save all my money for an even better guitar (or something)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Oct 2009, 15:25


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Seriously, someone tell me this is a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Oct 2009, 15:27
Also, 7-string explorer. Thoughts, anyone?
I want one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Oct 2009, 15:35
I want one too, but the Sharksplorer is just pushing it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Oct 2009, 17:00
Gibson, just..just stop. STOP. Alright? Stop.

All silliness aside, no one else is going to mention that this is just an egregious rip-off of the Dean Dime?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Me2MqiNlsJw/R7bsKUk9b2I/AAAAAAAAATY/Y_RqhPywRd4/S1600-R/pantera.jpg)

Remember when Gibson used to sue people for shit like this?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Oct 2009, 17:43
Ok, so since we're on the topic of weird, short-run Gibson guitars, I might as well show off one they got right.

The SG-I. More precisely, MY SG-I!

I found this one at a vintage guitar fair, and just had to bring it home. I've been looking for one of these forfuckingever, and now FINALLY one turned up!
So, less yappy, more.... Pics.


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0831.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0845.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0848.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0846.jpg)

And now for the artsy pics with a wide angle lens:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0832.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0834.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0833.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0856.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0860.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0855.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Oct 2009, 00:09
Beautiful. How much did it cost?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Oct 2009, 06:34
I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

Don't buy a Robot. BE A FUCKING MAN AND TUNE YOUR OWN GUITAR.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 26 Oct 2009, 07:37
Here's my dilemma.

I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

However, next year my grade goes on a trip to Europe which will cost much money.  

So my choices are:

A.) Buy the guitar now and work my ass off next summer to pay off the trip

B.) Don't buy the guitar, work up all my money again from scratch, get the guitar much later

C.) Don't go on the trip or buy the guitar, save all my money for an even better guitar (or something)

Thoughts?

The first question would be what kind of amp do you have.  There is no point in buying a >$1,000 guitar if you are playing out of a 15W solid state amp.  If you have enough money for a Gibson robot there is absolutely no point in saving up more for a different guitar because you can afford a guitar (with a lot of options at that) that will sound and play as well as anyone else can tell, unless you want a really pretty boutique guitar.  In fact you can find a great variety of guitars that play as well as a Studio for around half of what you are looking at dropping.  You would be able to get a guitar and have about half your trip money left over, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem to save up the rest in time.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 26 Oct 2009, 13:36
I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

Don't buy a Robot. BE A FUCKING MAN AND TUNE YOUR OWN GUITAR.

I honestly probably wouldn't use the tuning funtion that much, it's just that only the Robots are on sale, so it saves money to get one instead of a regular Studio.


Radical AC: can you give some examples of these lower-priced guitars?  I am interested in looking into this.
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Post by: jeph on 26 Oct 2009, 20:03
Okay that sharkfin guitar is yet another entry in the Gibson Parade Of Retarded Instruments, and I have no real use for a 7-string, but damn if this guitar does not give me a chubby:

(http://images.gibson.com/Files/e58805a5-7796-45e6-84c7-e95bf2230aed.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Oct 2009, 23:41
 8-)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Oct 2009, 00:58
I must admit I want one too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2009, 06:36
...Yeah. Want.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 28 Oct 2009, 05:34
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1268/885350055_0bd4a365e2.jpg)
This is a Chinese made Fender Squire "master series" set-neck, 2 humbucker, thinline telecaster.  Ran from '05-'08.  Isn't the best quality (plywood top), but there's one sitting in my local pawnshop.  If I can manage to use my bullshit guitar nerd cred to haggle the price down from their $300 (it was $500 or so new), I may just snag it, but they also have a portable power planer, which would prove infinitely more useful in the construction of my own shoddily assembled instruments, and it's only $150.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Oct 2009, 08:46
Needs a '72 pickguard, but it it seems like an okay deal, how's the sound?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Oct 2009, 09:12
Wouldn't work. It's a carved top, IIRC.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 28 Oct 2009, 13:01
In the future I envision, all guitars have pickguards.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 28 Oct 2009, 13:54
Actually, that tele is a flat top.  As far as sound goes, the amps they had in the pawn shop were all pretty awful, so I couldn't get any real idea, but I imagine it would sound pretty good.  The Pickups are seymour duncans of some kind.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 28 Oct 2009, 14:40
In the future I envision, all guitars have pickguards.

I think lots of guitars (Les Pauls in particular) look much better without a pickguard.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2009, 06:31
Actually, that tele is a flat top.  As far as sound goes, the amps they had in the pawn shop were all pretty awful, so I couldn't get any real idea, but I imagine it would sound pretty good.  The Pickups are seymour duncans of some kind.

One guitar from that line won an Editor's Pick from Guitar Player, but I can't remember if it was that Tele or the Espirit.

The pickups are Duncan Designed, btw.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 29 Oct 2009, 06:50
I'm sorry, DO NOT BELIEVE THESE Magazine EDITOR PICKS. That is solely based on ad revenue. I actually once bought an Epiphone based on said "Picks." After doing some serious mods just to make the frets level I had to ultimately send it back because the electric part of the guitar just crapped out. Within half a yr the entire product line had been cancelled. In fact I'll go as fat to say, you would be better off just buying a used copy of Camel Jugs or Furry Fisting Weekly than Guitar Player. Oh well it all turned out well, my first wife conceded that I deserved a better guitar and I still have that Yamaha. (Not so much the 1st wife)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 29 Oct 2009, 14:00
Absolutely.  Other advice being that one should generally never buy a new Gibson les paul, ever (new as in paying full price).  Take that $1500+ and pay a visit to your local Luthier instead (that or follow Jeph's advice and head over to Mr.Creston's site (http://crestonguitars.com/)).  A much happier player you will surely be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 29 Oct 2009, 14:28
Another similar option would be the Electrical Guitar Company. Well, not similar in the kind of instrument, but similar in being another thing one would be wiser to spend 2500+ bucks on in lieu of a Les Paul.

Also, aluminum
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 29 Oct 2009, 14:31
I know someone who will only play Les Pauls, not because he thinks they sound or play better than other guitars, but because he's had better luck with them not breaking.  He's apparently very hard on his guitar, so there's that.  I can't really say much other than just presenting his case because I don't really play guitar, and my primary instrument (upright bass) is actually quite fragile no matter what you buy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 29 Oct 2009, 20:50
Although within my experience, Les Pauls aren't as good for use in fights.  Unless you can get a solid hit on someone (which will be very powerful due to their weight), I would recommend something lighter, such as a Strat.

I am in dire need of sleep.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Oct 2009, 23:56
Man, my ltd ec-1000 is SO much better than any les paul i've ever tried. Sustain for days. It came perfectly set up as well.
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Post by: Melodic on 30 Oct 2009, 00:02
My Dano would be the switchblade of guitar jousting.

Also I have been using lots of different picks recently and so now my pickups have collected what amounts to rainbow dust.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 30 Oct 2009, 04:28
I check this thread because some of these guitars are so beautiful. And I don't even play guitar!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Oct 2009, 06:07
Although within my experience, Les Pauls aren't as good for use in fights.  Unless you can get a solid hit on someone (which will be very powerful due to their weight), I would recommend something lighter, such as a Strat.

I am in dire need of sleep.

In Warhammer 40000 terms, the Les Paul would count as a Powerfist or Thunder Hammer; It packs a mighty wallop, but you always strike last.

Seriously though, for a fight I'd bring a Tele. The Bolt-On neck is sturdier, plus Keith Richards says they are the best for knocking motherfuckers out.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Noff on 30 Oct 2009, 06:41
Supposedly Pete Townshend liked his Gibsons because they were easier to smash... 

I think I would go with a tele as well, it has that nice long bolt on neck to swing it around with and the body has some relatively sharp edges to it.  In a pinch a forceful poke with the headstock could probably do some damage too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 30 Oct 2009, 07:07
Although within my experience, Les Pauls aren't as good for use in fights.  Unless you can get a solid hit on someone (which will be very powerful due to their weight), I would recommend something lighter, such as a Strat.

Strat would be more durable. You could scarcely kill one alt-country band with a Les Paul. AND you'd have to tune afterwards. I put my 9000 lb '78 Ultimate Fighting Mustang against all comers.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/302084653_7b7ccd5e3e_m.jpg)

Seriously if you ever see us live and I haven't broken a string on the parker, If I strap this bithc on there's about to be a fuss. Get out your camera and your helmet.
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Post by: glyphic on 30 Oct 2009, 07:39
(http://www.thatchspace.com/wp-pictures/baphomet2.jpg)

+1 to summoning, +3 versus good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Oct 2009, 08:39
Seriously though, for a fight I'd bring a Tele. The Bolt-On neck is sturdier, plus Keith Richards says they are the best for knocking motherfuckers out.

This is correct.
You know why they make cases for Teles? To protect other guitars from them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 30 Oct 2009, 08:39
+1 to the Telecaster being my weapon of choice in a battle situation.  But if I had a Gibbo in dire straights, I'd want my Firebird.  Neck through walnut and mahogany construction?  Much sturdier than an LP imo.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0991.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Oct 2009, 09:38
I am at some point getting a custom-built 7-string for my Grindcore band, and I am certain I need a neckthrough, because of the durability.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 30 Oct 2009, 09:47
+1 to the Telecaster being my weapon of choice in a battle situation.  But if I had a Gibbo in dire straights, I'd want my Firebird.  Neck through walnut and mahogany construction?  Much sturdier than an LP imo.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0991.jpg)

just jizzed all over myself

thanks
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Oct 2009, 10:03
Welcome to "wish I hadn't traded my Firebird", goddamn.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 30 Oct 2009, 10:21
Well, I just discovered the guitar that I'm going to be devoting 10% of my paycheck to for the next year.

Firebird, here I come.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 30 Oct 2009, 10:37
+1 to the Telecaster being my weapon of choice in a battle situation.  But if I had a Gibbo in dire straights, I'd want my Firebird.  Neck through walnut and mahogany construction?  Much sturdier than an LP imo.

just jizzed all over myself

thanks

Yeah, it's a great sounding guitar, not to mention drop dead gorgeous.  They only thing I don't like about it is the way switching works.  It goes neck/mid+bridge/bridge.  Next week I'm going to replace the three-way switch with one designed for an SG (a right angle 2 pickup toggle (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Switches_and_knobs/3-way_Pickup_Switches/Right-angle_Switch.html)), wire the neck and bridge pickups to that, then hook the middle to a push/pull switch (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Potentiometers/Push-pull_Pots.html).  Preliminary tests show this to be so so so good.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Oct 2009, 12:20
That is the best looking firebird, nay, guitar i've ever seen. I'm serious.
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Post by: Radical AC on 30 Oct 2009, 17:00
Speaking of custom and metal guitars, I lust after Jack White's Triple Jet made by Randy Parsons.  Custom 1912 Gretsch headstock, and a copper to so it will NEVER run out of power.  Something like that.  I'm thinking of having a similar imitation done of my Rick Liverpool.  After I rob a series of banks.
(http://www.gretsch-talk.com/forum/members/the3rdmugician-albums-jack-whites-triple-jet-picture1237-triple-jet.jpg)

Isaac Brock's custom Wicks guitar is pretty sick too;
(http://www.wicksguitars.com/gallery/galleries/Isaacs_Custom/IsaacBrocksGuitar.jpg)

Radical AC: can you give some examples of these lower-priced guitars?  I am interested in looking into this.

This is kind of a hard question to answer as it all comes down to what you want out of your guitar.  A certain type of construction?  A brand name?  Body style, pickup configuration, ect.  You could get a comparable (http://www.rondomusic.com/alspec.html) Agile AL series from Rondo Music.  A lot of people seem to have a thing for Danelectro's, cheap good guitars, but the way they play is completely different from a LP.  I just saw Becky Black from The Pack AD shred up some of the most ridiculous blues riffs I have EVER seen using an old model LTD H series you could pick up on ebay for $200, lots of great crunchy tones and not muddy at all.  (She did have a nice JVM Marshal combo, though)  Personal preference; Schecter's C series has some great, decently priced guitars.  Gretsch's solidbody electromatics sound great (I've seen the guitarist from Manchester Orchestra use them)  Eastwood has some really reasonably priced funky and awesome guitars.  I have a $200 and $2000 guitar, and use both.  I'm sure a lot of the other people here would know a lot more examples of inexpensive quality.

I am at some point getting a custom-built 7-string for my Grindcore band, and I am certain I need a neckthrough, because of the durability.

If I were to get a 7 string it would definitely be a Carvin DC747 (http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=dc747).  Neck-thru, HSH w/ 5 way selector, and damn near custom everything else. (The scroll over pics they have on their site make me punch myself in the crotch)
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Oct 2009, 18:25
I feel like a BC Rich could stab someone to death...also, I believe that they have black magic powers.

Radical AC: can you give some examples of these lower-priced guitars?  I am interested in looking into this.
I'm sure a lot of the other people here would know a lot more examples of inexpensive quality.

Other people?  What are thine opinions?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 30 Oct 2009, 21:25
Again, it depends on what you are looking for.  WHY specifically do you want a LP?  What kind of amp do you have?  What kind of sound are you looking for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2009, 07:18
Speaking of "we like Danos", I'm trying to swing a trade for this beauty.

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Danelectro%20U1/CIMG0414.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 31 Oct 2009, 07:44
8-)
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2009, 08:03
Deal off. I just got two emails. One from the guy who bought the guitar I was trying to sell on ebay and hadn't heard from in like two weeks, and another from PayPal, saying he'd sent me my goddamned $235.

*whistle* I might just buy a GFS Mean 90 for my Tele, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 31 Oct 2009, 11:25
Again, it depends on what you are looking for.  WHY specifically do you want a LP?  What kind of amp do you have?  What kind of sound are you looking for?

Right now, all I have is a Roland 20W practice amp, but looking to upgrade ASAP.

As to why, Les Pauls just feel the best to me.

I'm looking for a classic rock-type sound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2009, 05:45
Yeah, that sounds pretty Les Pauly to me. That or an SG.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Nov 2009, 09:12
Again, it depends on what you are looking for.  WHY specifically do you want a LP?  What kind of amp do you have?  What kind of sound are you looking for?

Right now, all I have is a Roland 20W practice amp, but looking to upgrade ASAP.

As to why, Les Pauls just feel the best to me.

I'm looking for a classic rock-type sound.

Are you sure you want to be left trem-less?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 01 Nov 2009, 16:38
Explain.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Nov 2009, 21:38
Without a trem you can't do awesome things like make your guitar go NEEEAAAAAOOOOORRRRRRMMMMMBWOOONGNGNONGONGONGONGONGONGONG which then devolve into ear-stabbing feedback.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Nov 2009, 00:20
Retrofit that LP with a Bigsby because that is the best thing

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2009/6-superstars_OldBlack-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Nov 2009, 06:28
That's what I did with my Junior clone, though it was more to enhance string tension.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 02 Nov 2009, 09:43
Mr.Young's LP also has a P-90 in the neck and a Firebird mini-humbucker in the the bridge.  Ol'Black is such a badass guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Nov 2009, 10:40
I'm planning to put a bigsby b7 in my ec-1000. Good idea y/n?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 02 Nov 2009, 13:41
Retrofit that LP with a Bigsby because that is the best thing

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2009/6-superstars_OldBlack-1.jpg)

Sounds like a plan.  Neil Young FTW.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Nov 2009, 20:44
GUYS

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Pacafeliz/Guitars/DSC00747.jpg)

THIS CAME HOME FROM THE POST OFFICE TODAY AND IS STRAPPED TO MY SHOULDERS RIGHT GODDAMN NOW

BE JEALOUS
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 02 Nov 2009, 21:18
I really like your fret markers. Can you buy those?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 03 Nov 2009, 04:24
Damn Patrick. Not crazy about overly orangey bursts. But CHICKEN HEAD! AWESOME!
Lose the pickguard. Freakin' beautiful. Does it sound/play as good as it looks?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Nov 2009, 05:27
Is all the gear behind it yours?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Nov 2009, 07:03
No, that belongs to a guy on OSG known solely as "The Patron Saint of GAS". Same guy I got my LP Junior clone from.

Of course, that's on its way to Texas now. I'm using some of the money to buy a pair of vintage white witch hats from another dude on OSG, and electronics/tuners from Guitarfetish.

Yep. I'm going to start building a Partsmaster. I'm envisioning a yellowed white finish, tortoise shell guard, and very straightforward electronics (no rhythm circuit). Big CBS headstock. I'm taking inspiration from Stephen Malkmus' Jazzmaster, but adding my own touches to it.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/040408_21221.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 03 Nov 2009, 07:07
https://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2009/Nov/Gallery_Guitars_of_the_Country_Music_Hall_of_Fame_and_Museum.aspx?Page=20&#gallery

I like Mother Maybelle's. A lot of these, not so much.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Nov 2009, 09:38
No, that belongs to a guy on OSG known solely as "The Patron Saint of GAS". Same guy I got my LP Junior clone from.

Of course, that's on its way to Texas now. I'm using some of the money to buy a pair of vintage white witch hats from another dude on OSG, and electronics/tuners from Guitarfetish.

Yep. I'm going to start building a Partsmaster. I'm envisioning a yellowed white finish, tortoise shell guard, and very straightforward electronics (no rhythm circuit). Big CBS headstock. I'm taking inspiration from Stephen Malkmus' Jazzmaster, but adding my own touches to it.


Are you going to post it on OSG?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Nov 2009, 10:07
If and when I ever finish it, of course!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2009, 12:00
I went into my local shop today to see if they had any guitar shipping boxes in the back room, so I can send off my LP Junior clone tomorrow.

The guys there are pretty cool and hooked me up with one for free, but also made me sit down and try out EHX's .22 Caliber (http://www.ehx.com/products/22-caliber) power amp. I was plugged into a Fender Deluxe 1x12" cab and had a newer MXR Distortion +...VERY NICE for the minute or two I was playing through it (with an MIM Tele).

I've been GASing for a little 5 watt tube amp lately, but the .22 is a nice sounding amp. And only $100 for a 22 watt solid-state head that fits in the palm of your hand?! I might just be sold.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Nov 2009, 21:05
Speaking of "we like Danos", I'm trying to swing a trade for this beauty.

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Danelectro%20U1/CIMG0414.jpg)
I played a two pickup version of that yesterday. I hated the sound of the bridge pickup though. It just sounded so weak.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Nov 2009, 21:44
My Dano U-1 has pretty low pickup output as well.  While this can be frustrating at times, it also makes a very good clean tone through my Fender Champ 600.  My Tribute ASAT Bluesboy Semi-Hollow is just a little too hot to do a really good clean on the Champ 600.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2009, 05:49
GFS sells higher-output Dano pickups, as well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: MakuseruSukotto on 06 Nov 2009, 09:35
(http://i35.tinypic.com/33ynt60.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2009, 10:11
The Witch Hats are on their way, but I may be putting the build on hold.

Ladies and gentleman, Guitar Fetish makes Telemasters now. As well as Jazzmaster and Jagmaster/Jazzblaster copies. And now that I have a job, I can so throw down $230 on one of these in a few weeksish.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2080_18869347)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 06 Nov 2009, 11:26
I'm looking for a new axe. I've already got a tele and I play through a Fender Deluxe Reverb. I want something that can get a thicker muddier tone to offset the bright twangyness of the tele (which i love, but doesn't work for everything) Right now I'm deciding between a CIJ or MIJ jazzmaster, or a Gretsch Electromatic G5122. I've also been thinking of getting something with p90's in it.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2009, 11:27
Suggestion: Gimme that Deluxe Reverb.

Seriously though, I think you should look for something with humbuckers. From what I've heard, MIJ/CIJ JM pups (along with the Jags) are for the most part just Strat pups in different casings.

Yknow. Les Paul, SG, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Nov 2009, 13:35
I really like your fret markers. Can you buy those?

Well this is one of those Lawsuit Guitars that Gibson hates oh so very much so I highly doubt it. Also, the factory burned down. You could probably make some out of mother of pearl though.

Quote from: doombilly
Damn Patrick. Not crazy about overly orangey bursts. But CHICKEN HEAD! AWESOME!
Lose the pickguard. Freakin' beautiful. Does it sound/play as good as it looks?

In meatlife it looks less orangey. And god I love that Varitone. I've put it to some good use in some recordings already. Got another track to lay down that I'll run by you guys as soon as it's finished :D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Nov 2009, 05:47
-Frankentele-

No-one noticed this? Is it yours, MakuseruSukotto?
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Nov 2009, 16:30
-Frankentele-

No-one noticed this? Is it yours, MakuseruSukotto?

I would've commented, but I was too busy adoring that Telemaster.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Nov 2009, 17:36
Well, uh, my telemaster/teletelstar is gonna be way cooler.

(/Incredible claim)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Nov 2009, 05:52
-Frankentele-

No-one noticed this? Is it yours, MakuseruSukotto?

It's an Epi model from the 90s. They did some Strat copies, too. Kinda run-of-the-mill, honestly.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 09 Nov 2009, 10:27
The Witch Hats are on their way, but I may be putting the build on hold.

Ladies and gentleman, Guitar Fetish makes Telemasters now. As well as Jazzmaster and Jagmaster/Jazzblaster copies. And now that I have a job, I can so throw down $230 on one of these in a few weeksish.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2080_18869347)

That three-saddle bridge is dying to have some notches cut in it and a bigsby installed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 10:37
Or one of these maybe?

(http://www.bigsbyguitars.com/vibe/wp-content/uploads/trem_b16_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Nov 2009, 11:51
Yknow. Les Paul, SG, that sort of thing.
I looked into that, too. How well are the newer Les Paul Studios built? There are some sweet mahogany ones up on ebay right now for pretty cheap, but I know Gibson was bought out by the same company that owns Guitar Center, and that makes me slightly suspicious of their quality control.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 12:01
I think the QC's fine, it's just their stupid unnecessary innovation you gotta watch out for.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 09 Nov 2009, 12:59
I have heard some negative things about the quality of their newer instruments, though part of that is probably due to what players expect from such a high priced instrument.  If I were you, I'd look into a used lawsuit Les Paul.  A friend has an old Ibanez that he got for song, and after a good setup it plays excellently and sounds great through his Orange AD30.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Nov 2009, 15:21
Gibson's quality control is better than it used to be, and I actually prefer the 490/498 pickups in the Studios to the BurstBuckers they're putting in higher-end LPs nowadays. I have never heard of a LP Studio with quality-control issues- most of the shit Gibson fucks up on fancier Les Pauls is the cosmetics- sloppy binding, finish bleed, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Nov 2009, 15:21
Also they still insist on covering the ends of their frets with binding instead of extending the frets OVER the binding, which is completely ugly and retarded
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2009, 08:01
Speaking of Gibson/Epiphone, this is kinda making me feel funny in the pants.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/9/5/591995.jpg)

(Actual '54 Les Pauls had p-90s though, didn't they?)

(Edit: I'm guessing they based it on this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Custom-Jeff-Beck-V.O.S.-Oxblood-Les-Paul-Electric-Guitar?sku=580841) Jeff Beck sig model)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 11 Nov 2009, 08:29
Not a guitar, but:

(http://www.metasonix.com/G1000.jpg)

Quote
The HAPPY channel is a more-or-less conventional instrument amp. It has plenty of gain and distortion (if desired), it has a conventional guitar-amp tone control section, and it has reverb. Everything else about it is DEVIANT. It has a PHASE control, which allows mixing of normal and inverted signals—or it may be adjusted to cancel out the original signal and pass only the distortion products....and, it's all made of unusual tubes. Mostly pentodes, ha ha ha.

The ANGRY channel is well-named. It is designed for instability and raw, berserk distortion effects. It, too, has typical guitar-amp tone controls and reverb. It uses a 6BN6 and two remote-cutoff pentodes. Ask your mother what those are. She's already tasted your foreskin anyway.

Despite the identical output stages of the two channels, they sound TOTALLY different. In ALL settings.

The output tubes are 6BK5s. Obscure, yes, but great and forgotten. Phase inversion is done with 6GU7s. Various types are used throughout the preamp stages: 6AU6, 6BJ6, 6CB6, 6BN6, 5BQ7, 6AK5, and others. No 12AX7s, of ANY brand. How many tubes? TWENTY-THREE tubes in total. Including eight 6BK5 outputs. It might be the most complex tube guitar amp available today....

The output tubes are in a special self-balancing, self-biasing circuit. It is unique to the G-1000 among guitar amps. It does NOT NEED matched tubes, nor is any kind of bias adjustment needed. Output power is 15 watts per channel, and two speakers (or a stereo speaker) are needed.

AAAAAAAAAASDLFHJALHSFLSHALUFHDLAUFLASFUHSDSPURT[/i]

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 11 Nov 2009, 08:42
I don't even know what to think.  Part of me says "That's a fucking gimmick," but the rest of me says, "YES!"  It almost makes me wish I played guitar.  Almost.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 13 Nov 2009, 00:17
Of course it's gimmicky. You don't build a guitar amp with tubes from TVs and the like if it's not a gimmick. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to fuck around with for a while, but anybody who actually buys one is proof that capitalism doesn't work.

Also, I'm pretty sure if you tried playing it for more than an hour it would melt a hole through the floor.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 13 Nov 2009, 01:40
Yeah I think I heard a soundclip of it once and it just sounded like the most useless fuzz imaginable.

EDIT: Not a guitar, but we need to follow conventions.
(http://i.current.com/images/asset/899/463/90/4w0e8y.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Nov 2009, 10:59
the fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 14 Nov 2009, 11:27
Putting capybaras on page breaks is a Thing now.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Nov 2009, 15:24
That's differently abled.
Should at least be Guitar Capy.

Also dear guitar thread,
Despite repeated attempts I played 7 shows in 7 days and broke not one string.
I hereby decree it is quite ok to follow soundguys home and provide them with a blanket party. I'm pretty sure it is in the Bible/Torah/Koran/Waffle House menu.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 14 Nov 2009, 15:33
Yeah, if there was a guitar capybara I would've posted it. No such luck on GIS.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2009, 07:46
Despite repeated attempts I played 7 shows in 7 days and broke not one string.

What'd you do, borrow Rivers Cuomo's blue Strat?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 15 Nov 2009, 08:29
Capobara.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 15 Nov 2009, 17:43
I hereby decree it is quite ok to follow soundguys home and provide them with a blanket party. I'm pretty sure it is in the Bible/Torah/Koran/Waffle House menu.

I was gonna order it the other day, but then I realized you can get blueberries on them.

Blueberries.

(I love blueberries)

Capobara.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 16 Nov 2009, 10:12
'twas ye Parker Nitefly M with the girlie man 9 gauge strings.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwGTWFDPUwI/AAAAAAAAMQw/wcBcEYUT8N4/s400/Illicitizen%20by%20Peter%20Wochniak-133.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Nov 2009, 11:06
Even I use 10's...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 16 Nov 2009, 11:13
My trick in making strings last is to not play them.
See:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwGTW2LdfiI/AAAAAAAAMQ0/M-R7BQfM8uM/s288/Illicitizen%20by%20Peter%20Wochniak-134.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 16 Nov 2009, 21:02
Doombilly where did all these sick shots of the band come from?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 Nov 2009, 05:43
Those (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/IllicitizenFubarStLouis#5404762962910564162) were in St Louis Mo, at a club called Fubar. We ended up playing in the lounge because 3 or 4 local acts cancelled. Fortunately Illicitizen travels with a complete PA so we actually had the same sound we practice w/. Also the photos were by a pro we hired for this gig (Peter Wochniak).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 17 Nov 2009, 07:04
You had better have played 'Legs'.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 Nov 2009, 08:14
haha, no. No we did not. Ms Doombilly has that covered though. I admit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Nov 2009, 09:25
Those (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/IllicitizenFubarStLouis#5404762962910564162) were in St Louis Mo, at a club called Fubar. We ended up playing in the lounge because 3 or 4 local acts cancelled. Fortunately Illicitizen travels with a complete PA so we actually had the same sound we practice w/. Also the photos were by a pro we hired for this gig (Peter Wochniak).

I KNEW that place looked familiar. I caught my brother's band playing there a while back. Also, I'm digging that finish on your Nitefly. Mine's just the barely-transparent red.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 Nov 2009, 09:37
Oh wow. Is your's a mojo? The pics peter took make it look really good. And it is. But I regret I used to use a heavier pick as I've scratched the face pretty badly. No matter I would never sell that gtr anyway.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 17 Nov 2009, 16:06
Are there larger versions of the pics?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 18 Nov 2009, 08:43
http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/IllicitizenFubarStLouis#

I think you can view up to 800 px width and I believe I uploaded these at 1600px (so you could conceivably download at that size if you've not gotten enough of my camwhoring). :P
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Nov 2009, 13:39
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwCT3nLtJKI/AAAAAAAAML4/-RccdOm5ffE/s400/DSCF1108.JPG)
Steve Cropper's Telecaster.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwCT4ocr1bI/AAAAAAAAML8/_e0tqDE_w0Q/s288/DSCF1111.JPG)
Steve Cropper's Deluxe Reverb
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 19 Nov 2009, 23:53
It saddens me to see instruments rot in museums, or display cases, or something.  They are meant to be PLAYED dammit.  I dream of an organization that collects guitars of rockers past and lends them out to the most worthy musician...

Babbling aside, I've been thinking of getting a Gretsch Electromatic Double Jet and replacing the pickups with Seymour Duncan DeArmond Dyna-Sonics (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/custom-shop/specialized-1/replacement_for/).  Basically I want the best Gretsch sound I can get at a third of the price.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Nov 2009, 03:55
I would join this club.

Hell, I would build guitars for this club.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Nov 2009, 05:05
It saddens me to see instruments rot in museums, or display cases, or something.  They are meant to be PLAYED dammit.  I dream of an organization that collects guitars of rockers past and lends them out to the most worthy musician...

Because of this, i'm not a big fan of Hard Rock Cafe
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 20 Nov 2009, 05:23
I'm stopping by a music store today to mess around with a 8-string again. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 20 Nov 2009, 15:59
How are Classic Player Jaguars compared to the '63 reissues?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Nov 2009, 05:39
Yeah. How are they? Contemplating buying a new backup rather than modding out the tele as previously planned. I agree with Jeph and my wife, might not be worth the effort. Anyway, looking for a good HH guitar in the $800 range. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 21 Nov 2009, 07:40
Fuck HH Jaguars.

Unless you're Kevin Shields, get an SG.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 21 Nov 2009, 13:16
Unless you are Ian MacKaye buy something other than a SG
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Nov 2009, 13:30
Anyway, looking for a good HH guitar in the $800 range. Thoughts?

A new Peavey EXP signature series can be picked up for well under that.   Seriously... I have guitars that cost three times as much that aren't nearly as well put together.  Mahogany body, set neck with almost no heel, a full two octaves.   Really  a very nice guitar.    Caveat: Some people hate quilt tops (I don't) and it's a chunky--though very fast-- neck.   

There's also a variety of PRS SEs out there for about $700.  Though I don't think it's quite as nice as the Peavey, (huge heel, the nut on mine wasn't well dressed on the high E side) it's still a very nice guitar for the price, and I like the pickups a little more.  Plus 25" scale is fun.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 21 Nov 2009, 20:05
I've never liked Peavy guitars all that much.  They use active pickups in many of their lines and bleh...

For ~$800 I always thought this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Italia-Mondial-Classic-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=514442) was tits on ice cream.  Reso-glass top, and a peizo pickup.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 21 Nov 2009, 21:10
tits on ice cream

 :|
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Nov 2009, 10:27
FAIL. The sale I had worked out fell through. No new guitars for festivus '09.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 24 Nov 2009, 14:19
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg
I'm pretty sure I'm ordering one of these in the next couple of days. I  played one the guitar shop by my house that was cheaper than buying direct from Eastwood, but I didn't care much for the color.
Anyone have any experience with Eastwood's stuff?
EDIT: Sorry for massive page-breaking image
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 24 Nov 2009, 15:05
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg

DO WANT

EDIT: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gibson_guitars_being_investigated_by_us_police.html
O___O
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 24 Nov 2009, 16:05
Check out the link attached to the article attached - http://www.hansonguitars.com/chicagoan.htm
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 24 Nov 2009, 16:10
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg

DO WANT

EDIT: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gibson_guitars_being_investigated_by_us_police.html
O___O

Hahahaha.  That's what you get for having outrageously-priced guitars, fuckers.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cadeonehalf on 24 Nov 2009, 20:53
I've never liked Peavy guitars all that much.  They use active pickups in many of their lines and bleh...

For ~$800 I always thought this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Italia-Mondial-Classic-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=514442) was tits on ice cream.  Reso-glass top, and a peizo pickup.

Before you dismiss Peavey guitars altogether, try playing a t-60. Heavy as a boat anchor and built like a missile bunker, but it plays so beautifully. I found one in my friend's basement that belonged to his dad (who hadn't touched it in 10 years) and I think he had to pry the guitar out of my hands after I got ahold of it.
(http://www.rocknrollweekend.com/T-60%201979%20-%20full%20V.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 24 Nov 2009, 23:59
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 25 Nov 2009, 03:17
I intend to add a T-60 to my collection one day.   Not sure when, but... It's high on the list.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 25 Nov 2009, 03:51
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!
I want the next guitar I get to be a 7-string. I like the idea of the extended range, being able to basically play in B or standard tuning without retuning.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 25 Nov 2009, 05:06
Personally, I just want my damn Squier back so I can get her a new hum-cancelled bridge pickup, solder it into place, and tune it to drop C. I only want to do this so I can play "The Background" by Third Eye Blind without fucking with my other guitars' tunings. That and a little metal from time to time wouldn't kill me. It'd help my chops, at least...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Nov 2009, 07:28
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!

I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Nov 2009, 07:38
pvt60
I actually came very close to buying one of these about a month ago. In any event, my funding has dried up so nm.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Nov 2009, 21:15
I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.

My exact opinion of 6-string basses.  5-string I can understand because it's basically the same as an extension on upright bass plus an extra semitone.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Nov 2009, 23:13
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!

I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.

What is there to get? It means you can play more notes. Seems simple to me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Nov 2009, 23:15
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg

Wow, that's the closest I've gotten to seeing an Eastwood I've liked.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Nov 2009, 00:31
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!

I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.

What is there to get? It means you can play more notes. Seems simple to me.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 26 Nov 2009, 00:38
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moonlander.jpg
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Nov 2009, 00:56
The fuck....
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Nov 2009, 04:51
Just means you can play more notes.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 26 Nov 2009, 07:32
Lots more notes (http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/08/pikasso.jpg).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 26 Nov 2009, 11:34
Dammit if yesterday's discussion didn't get me all fired up again about getting a T-60.  I went and bid on one on ebay.  I should probably hope that I lose, but I'm really, really hoping I win.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 26 Nov 2009, 12:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moonlander.jpg

I want a Springtime.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 27 Nov 2009, 07:08
Dammit if yesterday's discussion didn't get me all fired up again about getting a T-60.  I went and bid on one on ebay.  I should probably hope that I lose, but I'm really, really hoping I win.
The one I played was fucking awesome. I'm pretty sure you kill all the knights o the roundtable with it. SOLID.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 30 Nov 2009, 12:32
Aw shit... I won it.

Let y'all know how it plays in a few days.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 30 Nov 2009, 16:54
In my local g-tar shop there's a semi-acoustic they brand as 'Noel Gallagher's ex-guitar'...they put the price UP because of this...I think the Oasis hating community should chip in and burn it as Oasis-fawks.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 30 Nov 2009, 16:55
An ex-guitar? What is it now, a xylophone or something?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 30 Nov 2009, 17:04
He may have fashioned it into a hat yes... :-P Wording may have been mangled by me...the jist is its his old guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Nov 2009, 21:01
My old local music store once had a Ricenbacker electric 12 string sitting on the counter, and when I enquired as to its origin, I was told that it had been Paul Westerberg's.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 30 Nov 2009, 21:23
I once worked for Scot Alexander the bassist for Dishwalla... Never got to play his stuff though >_>
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 30 Nov 2009, 22:14
My old local music store once had a Ricenbacker electric 12 string sitting on the counter, and when I enquired as to its origin, I was told that it had been Paul Westerberg's.
I would have bought that, or at least humped it furiously till I got kicked out of the store. Not sure if it would be more from the guitar or who used to own it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Dec 2009, 07:29
How about that dude on OSG who bought one of Sonic Youth's stolen Fender Mustangs, restored it to almost-new, and then sold it back to the band at the price he paid for it, only to have the fuckers smash it to shit all over again?

Nobody can ever one-up that dude unless they own every piece of the guitar Hendrix used at the Monterey Pop Festival.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 01 Dec 2009, 08:48
He  jizzed on his old guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 01 Dec 2009, 09:01
Thats not even witty word play thats just pretending I said something...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Dec 2009, 09:18
We never claimed to be witty, man.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 01 Dec 2009, 10:55
I never sed 'poopie'
Sorry it is Oasis. I brunged the silly. The witty is in my other hat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 01 Dec 2009, 12:08
Dear guitar thread,

Why am I so retarded for unbadged 60's era japanese-made guitars? As soon as I see one for sale I start all "OH HEY LET ME GIVE YOU SOME MONEY FOR THAT." regardless of the condition. Bah.

I found what looks to be a Teisco Starway J-1 for 70$. The pickup has been replaced, so I have no idea how it would sound. I am trying to trade my hollowbody for it. We shall see.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 01 Dec 2009, 12:27
I LIKE LAMP...AND FECES!

Interesting...I see...little too much info for my liking.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Dec 2009, 13:51
I bought a cheap nylon string guitar off a guy today (According to the inside, it is "Model Number Made in China", that's how generic it is). I defretted it. It is awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 01 Dec 2009, 14:31
So back at my place I have an old Squier Strat that I haven't used much since I got a better guitar. But I got to thinking today as to how I could possibly make it better. Well for starters, obviously I could drop in new everything, but I have never, ever been a fan of the Stratocaster shape. What if I could re-cut it so it looked less assy?

This was the result.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/guitar.png)

Here it is, overlaid over a strat for comparison:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/guitarcomparison.png)

Thoughts? Awesome?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 01 Dec 2009, 15:30
Great. Now I want to go mutilate my Squier Strat.

I approve.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 01 Dec 2009, 16:24
Those usually turn out badly. Make a lamp out if it. Or feces.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 01 Dec 2009, 16:39
ZINGER ALERT!!!

Squier Strats are basically already feces.

*ba-dum-buhm-pshh*

(This coming from the proud owner of a used Epiphone Les Paul Special-II)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 01 Dec 2009, 21:39
You made an ugly Jazzmaster with humbuckers.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 02 Dec 2009, 05:15
Yup.  That body will be tinier than you think it is.  Don't believe me?  Search ebay for "custom" guitars.  Most of the time you'll find some idiot's hack job there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2009, 06:18
I kinda like that pseudo-offset one, Chris. Reminds me of a few people on OSG that ended up finding Mustangs on eBay with the lower horn completely hacked off.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 02 Dec 2009, 06:41
And here is something completely different.

(http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/ebaymoneymaker/100_0163.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2009, 07:39
(thanks, Chris)

GFS is now doing repros of Burns Tri-Sonic pickups.

http://store.guitarfetish.com/brrovisppicl.html

God. Damn.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 02 Dec 2009, 12:31
And here is something completely different.

Anyone who's ever played guitar in their underwear during wintertime must appreciate this as much as I do.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Noff on 02 Dec 2009, 12:39
I would be first in line for an official Furcaster
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 02 Dec 2009, 16:57
And here is something completely different.

Anyone who's ever played guitar in their underwear during wintertime must appreciate this as much as I do.

My god! Hes a mind reader! Cold guitars are the bane of shirtless playing!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 03 Dec 2009, 13:06
Glyphic, you may be onto something here.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 03 Dec 2009, 14:17
Hilariously, that's a Heit guitar from the early 60's.

More pics on the ebay page where the low bid is 9.95

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-HEIT-DELUXE-FURRY-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-TEISCO-MIJ_W0QQitemZ300372763118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45ef9ca1ee (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-HEIT-DELUXE-FURRY-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-TEISCO-MIJ_W0QQitemZ300372763118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45ef9ca1ee)
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Dec 2009, 15:34
holy crap. Needs mor pickupz
(http://www.theguitarcollection.org.uk/gallery4/heit-p.jpg)
jumpin batman on a pnematic buttplug!
http://www.theguitarcollection.org.uk/gallery1/menu.html
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 03 Dec 2009, 22:13
And here is something completely different.

Anyone who's ever played guitar in their underwear during wintertime must appreciate this as much as I do.

(http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/ebaymoneymaker/100_0167.jpg)

Furless back =  :-(

I do, however, still want it. Even with shipping, like a $50 guitar or something. :-D
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Post by: David_Dovey on 03 Dec 2009, 22:43
If he was any kind of smart he would've made just the back furry
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Post by: The Duke on 04 Dec 2009, 15:51
It would still be kind of cool; just not as practical (for shirtless/naked playing*).

*Rage Against The Machine did it one time.  I am not just being creepy.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 04 Dec 2009, 16:39
So I just finished applying lots of wood filler the body and headstock of a mahogany SG clone I'm building.  Tomorrow, there will be a goo-gob of sanding.   This is good though, because it means I'm getting reasonably close to being done.    I'm now having a hard time deciding if I should wind the pickups tonight or drink beer.
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 04 Dec 2009, 20:27
So hey guys, been working on this piece with a couple friends, for a couple hours and we decided to record it.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=XhzVQ1

Sorry about the recording quality, was just a couple mics scattered across the room. Guitar sounds a bit like shit, was using a crappy vocal microphone I had lying around to capture the sound.

For the gear-heads out there, this was

Marshall 18Watt running a Maxon OD808 in front.  On the solo I kick the OCD in if I remember correctly. I also use a Tycobrahe clone in the C section. Intro and bridge are wah + chorus.

Try and guess the guitar (might be an impossible task with this recording quality).

So, changes I'm thinking of making:

- Chorus is getting scrapped probably.
- That verse before the last chorus/solo/chorus is getting scrapped too me thinks.

Oh and sorry about that solo. Was just noodling around mostly.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 04 Dec 2009, 20:39
So, that Heit fur-covered guitar. Has anyone heard the tone from one of them before? Would you possibly describe it as... fuzzy?
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Post by: jeph on 05 Dec 2009, 09:25
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dusk-Tiger/Gallery.aspx

oh what the fuck gibson
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Dec 2009, 09:31
Don't worry about it, Jeph. We figure Gibson'll drive themselves into the ground within a year or two at this rate of stupid guitars.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Dec 2009, 09:40
I was expecting stupid, but I was a bit surprised at just how stupid.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Dec 2009, 12:18
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dusk-Tiger/Gallery.aspx

oh what the fuck gibson


More like, Dust Bunny.
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Post by: Tehz on 05 Dec 2009, 15:11
Is there even a market for shit like this?

(someone's gonna post "stupid people with too much money", but I'm gonna take care of that right now)
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Dec 2009, 17:46
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 05 Dec 2009, 18:11
I own a VG strat.


So there's no accounting for taste
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Dec 2009, 18:35
Is there even a market for shit like this?

See, they at least acknowledge this by making the production limited. Unfortunately, their idea of limited is A FUCKING THOUSAND of these.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 06 Dec 2009, 05:05
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?
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Post by: Ballard on 06 Dec 2009, 08:50
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dusk-Tiger/Gallery.aspx

oh what the fuck gibson


In all honesty that's a really tasteful, pretty guitar compared to the shit they've been putting out lately. It's overpriced and the Robot features are unnecessary but I really like it otherwise.
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Post by: The Duke on 06 Dec 2009, 14:19
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?

For some people, yes.  I know a guy who didn't realize that tuning using his frets instead of harmonics was unreliable once they got worn, and thought that he was either doing it wrong or that he was tone-deaf.

Also, I can see it being handy during shows, since it can do drop-D, open tunings, etc. automatically.
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Dec 2009, 03:37
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?

But it's so cooooooooool.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Dec 2009, 03:19
Wrong.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Dec 2009, 03:56
yeah ffffuuuccckkk opinions!

fuck'em good
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 08 Dec 2009, 04:02
I showed some people the Zoot Suit a few days ago and they all said it was "kewl". Some were guitar players.

FFFFFF
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 06:10
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?

just..just qft.

edit: Oh yeah, so..I'm ordering a body after xmas. A guy on OSG is doing some measurements to see if a Warmoth Split Jazzmaster guard would fit with a Telecaster bridge. If not? I'm going to have him do either a Tele Deluxe body routed for a Strat trem, or a straight-forward Jazzmaster. 
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Dec 2009, 07:08
I showed some people the Zoot Suit a few days ago and they all said it was "kewl". Some were guitar players.

FFFFFF

The thing is sexy, the only problem is that unless they've done some very nice engineering it'll sound like ass (plywood guitars died out for a reason).

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/USA/SGs/Zoot-SG/FinishImages/SGZTRKCH1-Finish-Shot.jpg)

Seriously, look at this thing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 07:11
I am. It looks like fucking shit.
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Dec 2009, 07:14
You're going to start talking about how great Danos are soon, aren't you?
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 07:21
Actually, I might bitch about how the "hand painted psychedelic" reissues look. Cos seriously, it's not pretty.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/DAT12/Danelectro%20Related/d96ed7a9.jpg)

Zoinks, Scoob.
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Post by: glyphic on 08 Dec 2009, 07:34
Those look like barf and they make me barf.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 08 Dec 2009, 08:30
One time when I was little, I ate a bunch of Cap'n Crunch and threw it up again.


I forget about that incident until right this moment.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Dec 2009, 08:43
I'm also of the opinion that the Zoot Suits at least look pretty sweet, as long as you get one of the two-tone finishes and not that god-awful rainbow one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Dec 2009, 09:21
Re: those Danos, take a moment, everybody, to wrap your heads around this sentence: "Somebody seriously took the time to hand paint those things."

That means that somebody thought this was a good enough idea to merit somebody else's (theoretically) skilled, manual labor. Somebody thought that those ugly pieces of shit were marketable enough to produce some number of them. That suggests that there are people in this world who like things that are completely unlikeable, and will pay more for them because they are not only fucking repulsive, but they are limited edition.

This is why I have no faith in people. A guitar that I consider unattractive makes me a misanthrope. UGLY GUITARS MAKE ME HATE HUMANITY. SRS BIZNESS

Self-mockery aside, I really do think those things are worth at least a slap over the head.
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 08 Dec 2009, 10:18
The goggles, they do nothing!

Seriously though, what happened, Danelectro? You were doing so good with your reissues, why did you make such a terrible decision? Who looked at that and said "yes this is what we want our guitars to look like!"??
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 08 Dec 2009, 10:33
Psychedelic Guitars image

Honestly, if they hadn't painted the neck like that I would have no problem paying for one of those.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 Dec 2009, 11:51
Ditto.
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Post by: jeph on 08 Dec 2009, 12:56
Wow that is eye-melting.

If I were going to buy another 7-string someday, it would probably be a Blackmachine:

(http://blackmachine.net/images/b7d.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 08 Dec 2009, 14:39
*splooge*

I want a Blackmachine, bad. Just a shame he has a waiting list of like... three years.
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Post by: Spluff on 09 Dec 2009, 05:14
That name is particularly misleading.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2009, 08:23
Like the Acoustic Black Widow.
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Post by: jeph on 09 Dec 2009, 10:07
*splooge*

I want a Blackmachine, bad. Just a shame he has a waiting list of like... three years.

Yeah, at this point I think it might be faster to just learn to build guitars myself than wait on a Blackmachine.

And my new house has a nice workbench in the garage...
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 09 Dec 2009, 10:19
Man, I'd be building all sorts of guitars if I had that.  Or repairing all sorts of motorcycles.  Maybe guitars during the winter and motorcycles during the riding season.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 09 Dec 2009, 10:58
Make a hybrid of both.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 09 Dec 2009, 11:07
Now is the first time in my life I wish I had any skill with photo manipulation software.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 09 Dec 2009, 11:26
Shit son,

(http://www.strangevehicles.com/images/content/147915.jpg)
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Post by: Zingoleb on 09 Dec 2009, 11:31
But how's the tone?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2009, 12:10
Your Google Images search-fu is disgusting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 09 Dec 2009, 12:26
I didn't even bother trying to look it up.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 09 Dec 2009, 16:18
*splooge*

I want a Blackmachine, bad. Just a shame he has a waiting list of like... three years.

Yeah, at this point I think it might be faster to just learn to build guitars myself than wait on a Blackmachine.

And my new house has a nice workbench in the garage...

Let me know if you get good at it. I believe a loyal reader like myself deserves a free 8-string.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Dec 2009, 18:47
Like the Acoustic Black Widow.
It burns!
Oh well at least they ARE black.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2009, 21:43
What burns?
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Dec 2009, 04:32
Mostly my pee pee when I urinate but...oh wait wrong forum... No I meant it's CALLED "Acoustic" and it is so much an electric guitar. /being overly silly

It is kind of a shame the pickups don't sound better on the widow. It would make a good guitar for slide work, if I knew anything about that. The only time I've been able to make that sound ok I was pretty doped up from my shoulder surgery. So it probably sound like butt, I just was too high to notice.

In other news, I need two NYC local indie rock bands to play New Year's w/ ILLICITIZEN in Brooklyn.
Contact me via email (illicitizen at gmail) or on myspace (http://illicitizen.com), or facebook (http://facebook.com/illicitizen) if you can/want to do it.

/this has been a public service announcement without guitar

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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2009, 05:47
And my new house has a nice workbench in the garage...

Mind if I stop by sometime? I need a place to finish whilst all this snow runs its course.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 10 Dec 2009, 08:37
Psychedelic Guitars image

Honestly, if they hadn't painted the neck like that I would have no problem paying for one of those.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 09:03
Mostly my pee pee when I urinate but...oh wait wrong forum... No I meant it's CALLED "Acoustic" and it is so much an electric guitar. /being overly silly

It is kind of a shame the pickups don't sound better on the widow. It would make a good guitar for slide work, if I knew anything about that. The only time I've been able to make that sound ok I was pretty doped up from my shoulder surgery. So it probably sound like butt, I just was too high to notice.

In other news, I need two NYC local indie rock bands to play New Year's w/ ILLICITIZEN in Brooklyn.
Contact me via email (illicitizen at gmail) or on myspace (http://illicitizen.com), or facebook (http://facebook.com/illicitizen) if you can/want to do it.

/this has been a public service announcement without guitar



How long will you be in New York? I'll most likely be in Boston over New Year's but if you're in town for a few days I'll buy you coffee or something.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 10 Dec 2009, 09:06
I might be putting one of my friends in contact with you.  I think he's got a band going in NYC by now, and he's focusing on doing music full-time.  He's good.  I used to play with the guy back in Charleston.  There's a non-zero chance that he doesn't yet have a New Year's gig.  To which e-mail should I have him address his queries?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 09:26
Put him in touch with me as well. I always enjoy meeting local musicians.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 10 Dec 2009, 09:56
I might do one better than that.  I was planning on spending a little time in NYC in early January to hang out with some friends and relatives of mine that live there.  There could be possible hangouts.

We have fallen off-topic.  Unfortunately I have no guitar porn to post, since I haven't even thought about buying a new instrument in more than six years.  I haven't found anything that I like more than my electric, and replacing my upright would be freakishly expensive.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Dec 2009, 10:01
To which e-mail should I have him address his queries?
[email protected]

Is he solo?

How long will you be in New York? I'll most likely be in Boston over New Year's but if you're in town for a few days I'll buy you coffee or something.
Likely only that night. I'm not sure. We're playing Danbury CT the 12/30 date. Hopefully this NY gig will work out. But we'll be making our way home the 1st.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 10 Dec 2009, 10:02
My T-60 just showed up.

This thing is the sex.  Seriously.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 10 Dec 2009, 10:07
Is he solo?

Probably not.  I definitely talked with him about a band he was starting up.  I'll shoot him a text or something to find out what's going on with that.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Dec 2009, 10:22
Cool dealio. Anyone who wants to meet up hit my email. I can respond with my phone #. Love to meet some peeps.
 In other news I am having serious T-60 ENVY (in my pants).
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 10 Dec 2009, 11:09
The next guitar I buy is going to be by Electrical Guitar Company. I have decided this.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Dec 2009, 13:14
Getting a Charvel Spectrum for Christmas, yay!

(http://cache.finn.no/mmo/5/198/725/35_-1607013550.jpg)

edit: I also like pretty guitars.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 16:11
The next guitar I buy is going to be by Electrical Guitar Company. I have decided this.

Why not just buy a Travis Bean?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 10 Dec 2009, 22:34
EGC makes more affordable guitars and by all accounts, they are better built and have none of the flaws that TB/Kramers had.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Dec 2009, 05:17
They are also fucking gorgeous.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Dec 2009, 07:02
Wow, I played a Kramer bass (I think) w/ an aluminum neck. But those are kind of really cool. Heavy though. Although, probably lighter than that Black Widow. Heh
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Post by: Lummer on 11 Dec 2009, 08:21
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/vairish/Ibanez2010/RGA8_BK.jpg)

Awwwww yeah motherfuckers... I am so buying this when it comes out.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 11 Dec 2009, 08:35
What's the lowest string tuned to? F#?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 11 Dec 2009, 11:01
Question!

What's the point of locking the strings if the guitar hasn't got a tremolo?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 11 Dec 2009, 11:17
What's the lowest string tuned to? F#?

Exactly.

Question!

What's the point of locking the strings if the guitar hasn't got a tremolo?

Tuning stability. I mean like, tuning stability to a degree where it's completely ridiculous. I actually wish more companies would make fixed bridges like this. Ibanez so far only has this, the RG2228 and the Mick Thompson sigs with that bridge assembly. They did have a JS-model with it once, though. But so far, they are the only company aside from Steinberger (don't know if that's comparable at all though), that makes "Locked Fixed Bridges". If ESP/LTD made a Horizon model with this sort of bridge I would be all over it.

Granted, it stinks if you mess around with a lot of different tunings, but for me it's great. The fine tuners at the bridge allow you to tune really accurately in a jiffy. Plus the fact that you can move the saddles a lot means it's really easy to intonate perfectly. PLUS it looks cool.

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Post by: doombilly on 13 Dec 2009, 09:23
(http://www.diamondstrings.com/hag%208%20white-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Dec 2009, 10:07
Old hagströms are sweeeet.

Yours?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Dec 2009, 10:56
haha, no. I just thought of Lummer and his 8stringphila. :P I found that looking for more info on my Black Widow.

Speaking of which... Durn, been playing the mess out of it today. Actually found some good sounds with the help of my POD. Not so noisy. Also read that single coil versions like mine might actually be lap steel pickups. But it is hard to tell. There wasn't much documentation and mine was obviously MIJ by Matsumoku... hmmm maybe should try searching from that angle?

EDIT.
Played the whole set with the big black guitar. It did pretty well but there persists a tuning problem that i feel needs to be addressed with a shim on the side of the neck. On the lower side of the neck where it meets the neck cavity, there is probably 3/32" of a gap. The Widow has two bolts there and another right in front of the bridge to hold the other end of the neck in place. From what I could simulate playing with the neck with the tuner engaged, it moves just enough in play that will especially effect the G string. I want to shim the neck there, and am not sure what to use.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 13 Dec 2009, 18:35
3/32" is a pretty significant gap.   If it's really well and truly that large, I would cut a piece of wood and glue it in.  If it's smaller... cut  up a credit card.  They're about 1/32" thick, easy to come by, easy to cut to fit, and last forever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2009, 04:06
Any kind of wood? Was thinking I needed something harder than pine. The thing that pisses me off if it is the one thing I addressed with the luthier when I PAID to have it set up after buying it. He did everything else including an expensive fret dress/level that I didn't feel was necessary. I am beginning to think these guys are the 21st century version of the auto mechanic.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Dec 2009, 04:39
"Harder than pine" is probably a good idea, though honestly, it's a shim.  Use what a) works and b) looks good.  In that order.  The concern with any kind of wood is that it might split if it's under significant pressure, however, it'll probably be okay, and if it's glued in, even if it splits, it should still be relatively stable.  I'm trying to remember where I've bought pre-cut shims before, and for the life of me, it's escaped my brain. 

I just had an idea: If you go down to Home Depot you can usually find hobby sheets of plexiglass (they might call it acrylic plastic, or some such) in varying thickness for a few bucks a sheet.  In my local store it's in the back next to the windows and screen doors.  It's what I use to make my routing templates in my workshop.  You could cut to fit and stack if necessary.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2009, 06:28
Thanks. I hope this does the trick (shimming). Because this guitar is shexy. It is quite a bit harder to play than my Parker. But you know appearances are everything (especially if you are trying to dristract people from your grim face of death and pattern baldness). :laugh:

In other news, if i start hauling this big bastid to gigs, I need to replace the latches on the case. I'd love to keep it stock. But dayum. Right now i have a belt (some guy left at my house) wrapped around it to keep it shut.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Dec 2009, 06:52
I need to replace all the guts of the case for the T-60 I bought.  It smells of mildew.   Such a damn shame.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2009, 10:01
Try putting a bag of charcoal in it for a few weeks. Also we need some pictures of you rocking the T-60. Man I still regret not running up some CC debt on the one I saw a month or so ago.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Dec 2009, 13:06
What's kind of cool about this case is that being 30 years old, there is a rip in the fabric by where the upper horn goes.  Thanks to this rip, I can see that the damn thing is nothing but injection molded ABS with velour glued to it.   So I was planning on going down to the fabric store and buying a few yards of velour.  That way, I could rip this stuff out, wash the plastic down with bleach-water (or something) to make sure I've killed all the mildew, then hot glue new material to the plastic.

Then it occurred to me... My two youngest children are still young enough that they still have all these soft, cutesy, blankets with cartoon characters printed on them.  I think I'm going to steal a couple of their blankets and glue those in instead, so when you open my case it's going to be batman, or the hulk or something, instead of boring ass brown velour.  

Obviously, I would prefer to have been able to keep the case original, however, it smells of mildew so something has to be done.  I'll keep desiccant in there once I'm done.   And yay!  It gives me another project.  See my ranty post in the pointless thread about how I like to do stupid things that other people don't do.  

On another note, I think my wife must have taken the nice digital camera to work with her (pretty common) but I'll try to get a T-60 pic or two up later tonight.


Edit:  The UPS man came to the door today with a big ass box addressed to my wife with a guitarfetish return address on it.  Looks like I'm getting things I want for Christmas this year, woo hoo.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Dec 2009, 06:47
One of the new offsets?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 15 Dec 2009, 08:39
Damn, Santa is not very stealthy. Fat motherfucker.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 15 Dec 2009, 10:27
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/vairish/Ibanez2010/RGA8_BK.jpg)

Awwwww yeah motherfuckers... I am so buying this when it comes out.

Aw I was kinda hoping they'd do an Iceman style 8-string like one of the Meshuggah dudes has.
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Post by: Bearer on 15 Dec 2009, 11:06
3 Pickup 1979 Les Paul Custom
(http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/data/9/large/IMG_3741.JPG)
http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php/product/16586/cat/9/date/1260758991 (http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php/product/16586/cat/9/date/1260758991)

Whoa
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Post by: celticgeek on 15 Dec 2009, 11:32
I bought this shirt (http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/interactive/c498/) for my son-in-law for Christmas.

And these magnets  (http://www.blueq.com/shop/item/114-productId.125837468_114-catId.117440546.html)for myself.
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Post by: Lummer on 15 Dec 2009, 15:25


Awwwww yeah motherfuckers... I am so buying this when it comes out.

Aw I was kinda hoping they'd do an Iceman style 8-string like one of the Meshuggah dudes has.
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I never even knew they had one. Is it Marten or Fredrik? Eitherway, the Iceman never was my kind of thing.

I would SO like to see Scott Hull's custom Jackson 8-string.
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Post by: jeph on 15 Dec 2009, 19:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7qSHp2-lo&feature=related

Lotsa closeups of it in this video. I don't normally like Icemans (Icemen?) but his is pretty fuckin' badass.
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Post by: Lummer on 16 Dec 2009, 01:37
I honestly think it looks a bit weird with the uber-wide neck and all. I don't like it at all myself, actually. I am however quite sure it plays awesome and sounds like galaxies collapsing.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Dec 2009, 06:54
(http://www.bigsbyguitars.com/images/Bigbsy-BYWT-600.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2009, 07:00
I stumbled upon Bigsby's site the other day. Those guitars are SICK, but so damn expensive.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Dec 2009, 07:31
Yes. Kind of like these Hotties.
(http://www.hottieamps.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hottie454redmetal.jpg) $3500!!!!!!
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2009, 07:50
Is the bridge made of platinum or something? Jesus.
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Post by: Ballard on 18 Dec 2009, 14:37
Reminds me of Duesenbergs.

(http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/image/inst/hb_spec_wp.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 06:27
I got an email last night from the guy on OSG who's doing my body. It's not completely done yet, but I'm brimming with excitement. 3-piece alder! I'm thinking of going with a red finish and a tort guard, much like one of J Mascis' Jazzmasters. And that set of vintage white witch hats, of course.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/photo.jpg)
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Post by: Spluff on 19 Dec 2009, 08:29
I got an email last night from the guy on OSG who's doing my body.

You're making this too easy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 08:30
Shut up, numpties!
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 19 Dec 2009, 09:24
Got my Eastwood in the mail the other day. Glorious Les Paul quality tone (at least compared to new ones) at a fraction of the cost. Pics as soon as I find my camera.
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Post by: Ballard on 19 Dec 2009, 11:58
Which model?

The guitar shop I used to work at carried (and probably still carries) their full product line. I love the shit out of those things.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Dec 2009, 16:37
My wife was bogarting the camera for so long I almost forgot about getting a pic of my small (but growing) Peavey collection.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_4086-1.jpg)

'06 EXP Signature and '79 T-60.  So very different, both so amazing.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Dec 2009, 18:26
How heavy is the the T-60?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Dec 2009, 18:37
About four and a half thousand pounds it feels like.

Seriously, it's pretty stout.
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Post by: Ballard on 21 Dec 2009, 00:39
Add this to your Peavey collection.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/msg/1519289388.html
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Dec 2009, 01:58
Man, I have a co-worker heading home for Christmas to Amityville tomorrow.   I wonder if a) the ATM will dispense $685 at once and b) I could talk her into picking it up and getting it on a flight for me?

Edit: So I did a little research on the Odyssey model since I was unfamiliar with it.  Reviews are overall very good, but the market price is really hard to determine.  It's all over the place.   Also, this guy has tried to sell this guitar before and obviously didn't since he is relisting.   I'd probably rather get two (maybe three!) more t-60s or even another EXP.

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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 21 Dec 2009, 13:22
I'm selling my Wolfgang if you're interested.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Dec 2009, 07:59
What you need for your Peavey collection is this:
(http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Images/Va022.JPG)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Dec 2009, 22:40
Who would beat up an Explorer like that what did it ever do to them
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Dec 2009, 23:09
Why do you care, Explorers are lame. Only dude to ever make it not suck is Billy Gibbons.
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Post by: Spluff on 23 Dec 2009, 03:22
Why do you care, Explorers are lame. Only dude to ever make it not suck is Billy Gibbons.

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done, young man.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Dec 2009, 04:34
Why do you care, Explorers are lame. Only dude to ever make it not suck is Billy Gibbons.

I think you need to rethink some things.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 23 Dec 2009, 05:51
Patrick stop talking shit

(http://www.dethklok.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/skwis.jpg)

(also oh god why is there so much Dethklok Rule 34 out there aaaarrrggghhhhhh)
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Post by: Nodaisho on 23 Dec 2009, 11:13
Because you google searched with safesearch off. If you hadn't, there wouldn't have been any. Schrodinger's dildo codpiece.
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Post by: jeph on 24 Dec 2009, 02:48
Why do you care, Explorers are lame.

and i thought we were friends
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Dec 2009, 21:47
Whoever likes Explorers is a closet B.C. Rich fan. Go get a stupid Warlock, at least you get what you're paying for (read: "jack shit") with those.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Dec 2009, 22:06
Ha ha ha you're wrong and an idiot
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2009, 02:14
Do you know why they are retarded?

Find yourself a hardshell (or, for that matter, soft!) case that the fucker will actually fit in, and that you don't have to pay Hella Buxx for. If you pass this test, I will think they are less retarded. None of that "coffin case" shit either, that will never get me on your side.

Then you'll give me the excuse, "But if you are paying that much for a guitar, you should be investing that kind of money into a case!" Granted. But the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom, so even if you DO get a case, fucker is gonna snap somewhere anyway.

Speaking of snapping, you think the angled 3-by-3 configuration is bad? This fucker's got the same angle AND a 6-in-line configuration, and I've seen people complain about their angled 6-in-line headstocks like skinheads complain about Obama.

And at the end of the day, you'll be thinking to yourself, "Damn it, this guitar is entirely impractical and sounds no different than a slightly more-sustainy SG. What the hell was I thinking, spending more than 2 grand on this tinkertoy piece of shit."

And you could put an eye out.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Dec 2009, 04:34
Hey guys so I am sort of trying to learn guitar, borrowing the gf's acoustic. I've got a question about reading tabs.

I know that if you are using a capo, then the tab takes wherever the capo is as "0", i.e; if yr capo is on the 5th fret then you a "1" on the tablature actually means play the sixth fret etc. etc.

But if you are reading chord diagrams, does the same apply? I'd think not, but I dunno.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Dec 2009, 06:22
It's the same, Dovey. Play the chord as shown, in relation to where the capo is.

For example, a normal open C chord is (low-to-high) 0-3-2-0-1-0.

With a capo on the fifth fret (for example), the fingering stays exactly the same same, but instead of 0-3-2-0-1-0, you've got 5-8-7-5-6-5.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Dec 2009, 07:19
RANTRANTRANT

Since when have guitarists cared about practicality?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 26 Dec 2009, 08:18
So a really nice RG body and neck landed in my lap somewhat out of the blue.  Looks like I've got another project, woo-hoo.

I can't decide if I want to do something artsy-fartsy with it, or just leave it  the basic shredtastic black that it is now.  I briefly contemplated trying to do a reverse sunburst finish on it, but realized in about .00000047 of a second that the probability of that looking just exactly like shit is pretty high.  Otherwise, you'd see them on other people's guitars now.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2009, 08:26
NotAFanOfFenders: did you ever hear the story about why Pete Townshend started smashing guitars? Hint: it was because a fragile guitar failed him onstage.

Basically the long story short is that in the long run, Explorers are useless for anything but enraged destruction.
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Dec 2009, 10:28
Do you know why they are retarded?

Find yourself a hardshell (or, for that matter, soft!) case that the fucker will actually fit in, and that you don't have to pay Hella Buxx for. If you pass this test, I will think they are less retarded. None of that "coffin case" shit either, that will never get me on your side.

Then you'll give me the excuse, "But if you are paying that much for a guitar, you should be investing that kind of money into a case!" Granted. But the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom, so even if you DO get a case, fucker is gonna snap somewhere anyway.

Speaking of snapping, you think the angled 3-by-3 configuration is bad? This fucker's got the same angle AND a 6-in-line configuration, and I've seen people complain about their angled 6-in-line headstocks like skinheads complain about Obama.

And at the end of the day, you'll be thinking to yourself, "Damn it, this guitar is entirely impractical and sounds no different than a slightly more-sustainy SG. What the hell was I thinking, spending more than 2 grand on this tinkertoy piece of shit."

And you could put an eye out.

I am slightly appalled that this needs to be said to someone who is older than 8, but here goes anyway:

Patrick, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean everyone hates it, or it is without justification for existence.

Besides, you're clearly outnumbered here. Explorers are awesome, and that is all..
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Dec 2009, 12:54
Nah, Explorers are kind of lame.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Dec 2009, 14:20
Nah, Explorers are kind of lame.

No guitars are lame!

(Cue hilarious photos of lame guitars)
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Dec 2009, 16:06
Guys this is way lamer than a truckload of Xplorerz.
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/verrillinewarrivals/2985-verrilli-blonde-t

"Hand carved" -by whom a schizo shut in with a fucking pocket knife. This guitar says, fuck you. I don't give a shit what I look like.
(http://www.destroyallguitars.com/images/VerrilliBlondeT-10-09-2.jpg)

Also FUCK Patrick is right about finding cases. My fucking Black widow won't even fit in a bass case. Big Bottom, my guitar's gottem. I need the JLO model case. (I have the original HSC but thge latches are fuxd. Think I'll just repair it.)
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Dec 2009, 00:47
You know, if the carving job was less shoddily done, I'd totally love the look. Maybe if somebody did a decent job of hand painting that border instead of stabbing into the wood, or maybe inlaying it *and* binding it...

*fapfapfapfap*
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Dec 2009, 02:33
$2400 for that piece of shit. Dayuum.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Dec 2009, 07:01
I'm sorry, pre-worn guitars make me want to kick a puppy. But some of these are fap-worthy...
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/


EDITZ
Haha, I think I'll get 6 of these.
(http://www.destroyallguitars.com/images/dagmar-2.jpg)
(Dagmar!)
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 27 Dec 2009, 16:22
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/bilt/2942-bilt-relevator

(http://www.roadsterdrift.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/homer-drool-702026.gif)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 27 Dec 2009, 18:11
After allowing the holidays to put me off of building for a few weeks, I just finished spending some quality time in the garage with some fine mahogany and some 220 grit sandpaper.

The result?  The SG I've been futzing around building forever is 99% ready for paint.   I'm excited because I typically only make strats and tele derivatives.  There have been a whole lot of new experiences on this one for me. 

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_4103.jpg)

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Post by: David_Dovey on 27 Dec 2009, 18:56
Dang son that looks damn near perfect
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Dec 2009, 03:33
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/bilt/2942-bilt-relevator

Dear holy fuckshit. They took a Starcaster headstock, Marauder tailpiece design, and various design elements from Jazzies, Jags, Strats, and Teles, and then threw them all in a blender and this is what happened.

I just whitewashed my new black thermals :D
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Post by: doombilly on 28 Dec 2009, 05:01
After allowing the holidays to put me off of building for a few weeks...
FAP
That looks niiiice. And I am not a fan of SGs. The body looks like it might balance better than your standard devil horny guitar.

Jaysus, I did not see those Bilt guitars. For fuck sake. So many nice guitars out there. So little m0nie$.
 :|
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 28 Dec 2009, 19:17
Thanks, guys.

I just ordered the British Racing Green that this thing is going to end up being.

Tomorrow, I start construction on a real paint booth.   Mostly I've stained in the past and then sanded the shit out of any dust that ended up in the clear coats.  I figure if I spend a whole day tomorrow building a booth (I won't) I'll still save time over having to sand blemishes in an opaque paint like BRG.    Should be interesting, possibly hideous, when all done.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 28 Dec 2009, 21:07
RE: Explorers.

They are cool if you are in a metalcore band.

(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Atreyu--atreyu-591099_404_510.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Dec 2009, 21:36
Also pictured: embryonic crabsquats

(also I quite like that X-plr and ESP X's in general, even if it is played+endorsed by pretty much the shittest band possible)
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Dec 2009, 23:59
RE: Explorers.

They are cool if you are in a metalcore band.



No.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Dec 2009, 00:06
And no.
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Dec 2009, 00:12
(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Coachella+Valley+Music+Arts+Festival+2009+y0FfHZd_PzSl.jpg)

There.. Much better.
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Dec 2009, 03:41
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/bilt/2942-bilt-relevator

Dear holy fuckshit. They took a Starcaster headstock, Marauder tailpiece design, and various design elements from Jazzies, Jags, Strats, and Teles, and then threw them all in a blender and this is what happened.

I just whitewashed my new black thermals :D
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Dec 2009, 06:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvBJmG7D3PM&feature=related

derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm.

Also unrelated. Just interested in your take on this:
http://www.gui-tarp.com/_site/
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 29 Dec 2009, 09:37
Re: The Gui-tarp.

First time I see someone using one of those I'm going to laugh until I pee.   First time I see someone using one on an artificial relic, I will probably hit him.
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Post by: Radical AC on 29 Dec 2009, 13:54
Quote
- You need a Gui-Tarp to protect your guitar!  If your guitar ever gets ding'ed or knick'd then you should invest in a Gui-Tarp and play worry free.  Gui-Tarp will not affect your play and will only work to preserve the value of your prize guitars.

Wait, is this meant to be used during shows?!  It goes against just about everything I believe but I'd want to key a guitar with that thing on it.

Coming soon, the Hummer Snuggie!  Just... give up.

EDIT: That couldn't sound less like a condom joke... screw it I stand by it.
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Dec 2009, 17:29
haha
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Post by: The Duke on 29 Dec 2009, 17:32
...the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom...

That's...fairly specific.

I got nothing against Explorers.  Certainly wouldn't be my first choice, though.


Also, finally grew a set and bought myself a new electric!  Gibson Les Paul Studio, with a wonderful red wood finish.  This (http://www.guitariste.com/forums/photos/45278-1-big.jpg), but without the pickguard.  

It plays real nice.
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Post by: Spluff on 29 Dec 2009, 20:12
Quote
Gui-tarp

hahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Dec 2009, 06:37
...the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom...

That's...fairly specific.

I got nothing against Explorers.  Certainly wouldn't be my first choice, though.

Also, finally grew a set and bought myself a new electric!  Gibson Les Paul Studio, with a wonderful red wood finish.  This (http://www.guitariste.com/forums/photos/45278-1-big.jpg), but without the pickguard.  

It plays real nice.

How much did you pay for it? Gibsons are usually way overpriced.
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Dec 2009, 15:17
Accounting for the post-Christmas sale and store credit given as a Christmas gift, it was about $800 dollars, and it was worth it.
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 30 Dec 2009, 20:50
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/

Fuck you for showing me that site.

I've just seen the most beautiful guitars in all my life. And I can afford NONE. Nor I ever will. My favourite was priced at $21,000. THAT'S TWENTY GRAND!

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/archtops/922-scharpach-archtop-guitar

I... I... My life has no meaning. I will never play one of these.

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/ribbeckenewarrivals/728-ribbecke-hjg-thinline

Oh god... BRLAGLRAGJRAGAGRR

P.S.: Yes, I have a major hard-on for Jazz Archtops, since I've been studying Jazz for the past couple years. I have a Peerless Jazz City, but compared to those, it's just utter crap. Cheap Korean-Made crap.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 30 Dec 2009, 21:03
Twenty-One Grand, actually. You can't get a thousand off that easily.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 30 Dec 2009, 22:07
Patrick is wrong, Explorers rule
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 31 Dec 2009, 00:19
Today, I got a Fender '66 Classic Player Jaguar, for only like $770. So awesome.

Shitty cell pic:
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1363/newjaguar.png)
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Post by: BlahBlah on 31 Dec 2009, 03:30
I think there's something wrong with my Jazzmaster's tremolo system. The arm seems to be really low, almost hitting the strings, and it falls out far too easily. What's wrong with it? I can't see anything noticeable.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 31 Dec 2009, 04:49
I'd visit the fine folks at offsetguitars.com and ask them. From what I understand you have to press really hard to put in the trem arm for it to get locked in place. i'd double check before doing anything drastic though. Unless it's a classic player, which, as far as I know has a threaded trem arm and socket.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 31 Dec 2009, 07:34
http://www.gui-tarp.com/_site/

IT'S A TARP
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 31 Dec 2009, 18:57
Unless it's a classic player, which, as far as I know has a threaded trem arm and socket.

The one I just posted is a Classic Player, and it isn't threaded.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 Jan 2010, 04:43
As of today (New Year's Day) the very first item listed on the Guitar Center website under "Clearance" is a zoot suit SG.   Who woulda thunk, right?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Jan 2010, 05:18
I saw one in the flesh for the first time a couple of days ago. It looks like scrap.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Jan 2010, 05:19
The one I just posted is a Classic Player, and it isn't threaded.

Shows you how much I know.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Jan 2010, 18:54
Got about halfway through a Floyd Rose install and got bored, so I'm calling it quits for the night.  (It's really cold in my garage workshop)   Now I can't decide if I should wind pickups or play video games.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Jan 2010, 19:32
Finally got around to uploading pictures. Here's the christmas axe. I <3 eastwoods.
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/mikecerame/DSCN0047-1.jpg?t=1262489537)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Jan 2010, 10:34
Christmas axe-off!

(http://cache.finn.no/mmo/5/198/725/35_-1607013550.jpg)


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Post by: Christophe on 04 Jan 2010, 20:12
So I have a problem with my guitar.

The nut slot on the g-string of my guitar has gotten so worn-out to the point where it seems to be resting against the first fret. The string buzz had been particularly bad before but this is just making it unplayable. I have three options to deal with this shit. Do I:

A--plonk down the necessary amount of money to get the nut replaced, full stop ($40.00 at the local guitar shop apparently)
B--try that remedy where I put some baking soda and superglue together to fill in the nut slot (might require a nut file which I definitely do not have)
C--replace the neck of the guitar with the neck from my old, disused Squier strat, which has a nut that has not been beaten to shit
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Post by: Spluff on 04 Jan 2010, 20:15
Stick a little piece of bendable plastic into the slot.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Jan 2010, 05:58
old, disused Squier strat, which has a nut that has not been beaten to shit

Can't you you just use the squier's nut?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 05 Jan 2010, 06:27
It's most likely glued in and just not worth the hassle.

Chris, unless you trust yourself to file your own nut*, I suggest getting it done professionally. All of the remaining options will 'cause more widespread fret buzz than you started with.

* in before obvious joke
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 05 Jan 2010, 17:26
Well I had the local guitar shop look at it, and the guy told me of an even cheaper workaround involving putting some paper in the nut slot. That's what I've done so far but it definitely seems like a temporary-at-best solution so I might eventually plonk down the money for the nut job. Guy did say it would be $40.00, but the price may change depending on the material used.

What do you say guys, is 40 buxx a good price for a nut job?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 05 Jan 2010, 17:44
I've gotten cheaper nut jobs.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 05 Jan 2010, 19:20
That is a beautiful pagebreak.
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Post by: The Duke on 05 Jan 2010, 19:46
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Melodic, you are awesome.
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Post by: Bearer on 05 Jan 2010, 20:19
http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/ (http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/)

Using the attached .xls worksheet and following the steps, it shouldn't be too hard to make your own template and then cut your own nut.  Sure, you could get anal about the right size nut slot saws and files, but really a hack or coping saw and a small file should be all you need.  Best part, you can do it for under $10.
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Post by: Ballard on 05 Jan 2010, 21:33
cut your own nut

Sure, you could get anal

but really a hack or coping saw and a small file should be all you need
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Jan 2010, 07:10
Sooo. I never did get to do the extensive mods on my MIM tele. But now I have a couple gigs in NYC and will likely be taking the train in from whatever hinterland hell hole we get a room. Bottom line, I'm gonna take the tele as a backup and want to replace the bridge. Mine is not string thru. Would this be the best bet:
(http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/images/large/005-5104-000.jpg)
Thinking low cost/solid state are my priorities.
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Post by: Bearer on 06 Jan 2010, 23:08
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2085_11421030)
http://store.guitarfetish.com/wicotebrbrsa.html (http://store.guitarfetish.com/wicotebrbrsa.html)

$30, compensated saddles, and you can either go string-thru or top load them.  Plus you get the sheer mojo that is the 3 barrel tele saddle look.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 06 Jan 2010, 23:25
Hey guys, I bought a cheapo First Act capo because it was available and cheap and it worked pretty good! Now like a week later I've starting to get some string buzz from it. Do cheap capos wear out this fast? Is there a way you can tighten the grip?
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Post by: Lummer on 07 Jan 2010, 07:38
Guys.. Should I take a loan to buy a new amp head?
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Jan 2010, 08:35
Hey guys, I bought a cheapo First Act capo because it was available and cheap and it worked pretty good! Now like a week later I've starting to get some string buzz from it. Do cheap capos wear out this fast? Is there a way you can tighten the grip?

Sometimes I get a bit of buzz from my Dunlop. When that happens, it's usually misplaced a bit. Is it that?
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Post by: Nodaisho on 07 Jan 2010, 09:06
Guys.. Should I take a loan to buy a new amp head?
You had to know the answer that we would give if you posted this in here. We aren't here to make sure the people that post here remain financially solvent, we are here to look at and discuss sweet guitar stuff.

What head?
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jan 2010, 10:59
Some new leaks and stuff:

Squier Classic Vibe 60s Custom Telecaster:

(http://images4.thomann.de/pics/bdb/241197/2190106_800.jpg) (http://squierguitars.com/news/news_images/136/CVtele1.jpg)

Supposedly there's also a Classic Vibe '69 Thinline Tele. And yes, that's a mahogany body.

(http://www.squierguitars.com/news/news_images/136/CVtele2.jpg)

I need that double bound goodness, thank you Squier.
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Post by: glyphic on 07 Jan 2010, 13:47
Ok, guys. I've been fascinated with the idea of a baritone guitar for about 3 months now and every time I see one, My gut reaction is to buy buy buy and deal with the consequences later.

Has anyone ever actually played one? Would I get any real use out of it?
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Jan 2010, 15:17
Get the new Dano baritone. Do it.
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Post by: glyphic on 07 Jan 2010, 16:11
This video pretty much made up my mind. Getting one as soon as financially able.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gC6s-_hh8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gC6s-_hh8)
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Post by: Ballard on 07 Jan 2010, 17:20
Fuck you Shane I just came everywhere.

That is the guitar I've been pining over for like two years but a thousand dollars cheaper. Fuck.

How's the quality control on the current Classic Vibe models?

Baritone guitar guy has a sick bass line going that is reminiscent of Manteca by Dizzy Gillespie.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2010, 06:30
~goodness~
$30, compensated saddles, and you can either go string-thru or top load them.  Plus you get the sheer mojo that is the 3 barrel tele saddle look.
Thanks, that looks like the ticket.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jan 2010, 07:30
That is the guitar I've been pining over for like two years but a thousand dollars cheaper. Fuck.

Yeah, I know, me too.

Quote
How's the quality control on the current Classic Vibe models?

I've played the 50s Strat, Duo-Sonic, and 50s P-Bass from the CV line. The necks feel a little bit plasticy, but they're great guitars. Everyone seems to lose their shit over the pine-bodied Telecaster as well.
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Post by: glyphic on 08 Jan 2010, 12:19
Just ordered that Dano baritone. Found one online for $254 and free shipping.


I am excited.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2010, 13:38
erm, the one pictured above has 4 holes. Mine has three. Should I just drill new ones?
mine:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4257072557_dd2c2d71d2.jpg)

-

The one suggested
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2085_11421030)
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jan 2010, 13:49
Yeah, that one is "vintage" styled. I dunno when Fender switched, but I also dunno why they didn't keep the bridge plate the same way either.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 08 Jan 2010, 14:44
As they say over at the tdpri ad nauseum, "Leo got it right the first time." I don't know as i agree, but in this case, why would they bother to change it? I'd certainly want four screws holding my bridge down instead of three.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 08 Jan 2010, 15:32
Hey guys, I bought a cheapo First Act capo because it was available and cheap and it worked pretty good! Now like a week later I've starting to get some string buzz from it. Do cheap capos wear out this fast? Is there a way you can tighten the grip?

Sometimes I get a bit of buzz from my Dunlop. When that happens, it's usually misplaced a bit. Is it that?

No, I keep rearranging it and it's giving nothin' but buzz wherever I put it.

First Act, I'm assuming, is either a Walmart brand or they've made a deal exclusively with Walmart. Yeah, I bought it at Walmart because it is literally the only store in this county that doesn't sell only groceries, and the nearest music store is like 45  minutes away.

There was something else I was going to ask about...
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2010, 15:45
As they say over at the tdpri ad nauseum, "Leo got it right the first time." I don't know as i agree, but in this case, why would they bother to change it? I'd certainly want four screws holding my bridge down instead of three.
Soooo, no big deal for me to drill it for that bridge?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 08 Jan 2010, 16:13
Probably not, unless you are worried about collector value or whatever. The new outside screw holes might end up close enough to the old ones that you need to fill them before drilling the new ones. There are a good dozen ways of doing that, but you might not even need to.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jan 2010, 09:06
Nah, it is a 1995 MIM tele I bought for $130 used. Not so collectible. Yeah, I was a little concerned that either the two outside holes would be in the same place or that they'd be right next to them and I'd not get a solid grip with those two screws.

EDITZ
Meh, looking at the scale drawings that they have for both Vintage, and Modern styles it gets more corn-fusing. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2083_6080660

Mine doesn't look like either. But really my problem is the SADDLES on my bridge. Couldn't I just swap those for some more efficient ones? I have the 6 little barrel shaped ones with the groove for the string and two allen head screws to adjust height. These were obviously mf'd in a group home for wayward meth whores and huffers.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Jan 2010, 09:12
First Act isn't a Wal-Mart brand. I've seen it in Toys R' Us and a bunch of other places. It's just a company that manufactures musical instruments for children. The downside of this is that the quality of the instruments is closer to that of toys than real instruments.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Jan 2010, 09:15
Honestly Shane, the neck on the $1800 model (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-American-Deluxe-Telecaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=511147) is bullshit too. So I'll take that.

Fuck you Fender your guitars do not feel solid for the obscene price you are charging for them.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jan 2010, 10:00
like maybe this:
http://www.graphtech.com/product-226-2/
would work. But jeez. I could get a whole bridge for what the saddles cost and still have some Pabst money...
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Post by: Lummer on 09 Jan 2010, 11:12
Yup. Matt Pike, both dudes from Mastodon and a squillion others.
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Post by: Radical AC on 10 Jan 2010, 19:21
So, I'm considering getting this;

(http://www.bismanlive.com/members/70/photo_506_image.jpg)

And putting in these;

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/8/4/452284.jpg)

I've always loved the sound Doug Martsch gets on his lace equipped fender, and wanted a bit of the same with something different.  I don't know a whole lot about the Dewey Decibel guitar other than Nick Zinner plays one.  Not real expensive (Can find one for the price of a Dano) though, so it isn't a significant investment.  Well, compared to the more than 3k I'm looking at dropping on the rest of my setup.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Jan 2010, 19:48
Flipout Strats are tacky and played out.

As are Lace Sensors, particularly in Strats.

Sorry man.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 00:26
What the shit. I mean aside from thew whole "upisde down guitar woah" thing going on there, it is completely impractical. Inaccessible upper frets, Surely uncomfortable as hell to wear, and the jack on the top and more than likely interfering with yr arms. Why would anybody value novelty value enough to bother with that much bullshit?

EDIT: Upon further research I've found that the usual Strat jack is vestigial, and the working jack is in what used to be the top cutaway. I stand by my point still.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Jan 2010, 02:05
Holy poops Dovey I was about to make nearly that exact same post.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 02:09
I have been inhabited by yr spirit, obviously
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Post by: Spluff on 11 Jan 2010, 03:07
To be fair it's got 4 more accessible frets than most acoustics and a few electrics.  I'm not sure why it would be that uncomfortable, either? It would probably be poorly weighted and unwieldy, but probably no more than several other guitars on the market. The biggest problem would be the location of the knobs and the switch, and trying to sit in on a stand.
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Post by: Radical AC on 11 Jan 2010, 03:29
The jack is actually between the big horn and neck joint.  It is a bit gimmicky, no doubt, but that's a bit of the idea.  I'm not really sure how LACE in a strat is tacky.  Not very original, granted, but they were convention in their product line for much of the 90's.  It's also a tone I like, taking precedence over originality.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jan 2010, 07:49
First Act isn't a Wal-Mart brand. I've seen it in Toys R' Us and a bunch of other places. It's just a company that manufactures musical instruments for children. The downside of this is that the quality of the instruments is closer to that of toys than real instruments.

They make some pretty nice higher-end stuff, too. They have a shop on Boylston Street in Boston...check it out next time you're in town, man. Their semi-hollows are ace.
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Post by: glyphic on 11 Jan 2010, 09:08
Stop making me re-evaluate my mindset!
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Post by: Ballard on 11 Jan 2010, 10:37
In the theater district, on the green line? I'll be sure to check it out.

Get your ass down to Boston Shane! Why haven't we met yet?

I'll be there again Sunday night, Monday, Tuesday.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jan 2010, 10:39
Dude, I probably won't be down until PAX. I'm debating going either the weekend of April 10th or the following weekend (my birthday) as well.

The shop...I know it's somewhere between Copley and Hynes on the Green Line. If you're going towards Hynes/Berklee, it's on the right side of the street.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Jan 2010, 19:40
So I put in my order for some Brighton Rocks (http://store.guitarfetish.com/brrovisppicl.html) pickups from GFS, along with some new bridge saddles and strings. I am so stoked.

(uhh does anyone have a soldering gun I can borrow)
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Post by: Bearer on 11 Jan 2010, 20:52
@doombilly

It shouldn't be too hard  to replace the bridge.  You just have to mark off where the back of the old bridge plate is on the body, remove the old bridge, and fill the old screw holes (woodglue+sawdust should do the trick, or get a bunch of tooth-picks and glue them in there).  Align the new bridge over the string-thru body holes/previously made mark using tape, and string the two e strings (this will straighten out the new bridge).  Mark and drill the new holes, and screw it down.  Check out the forum at www.tdpri.com if you need help.  Lots of good tele info there.
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Jan 2010, 06:46
My Dano baritone is on its way to my apartment as we speak. I just have to make it through work before I get to unwrap it.
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Jan 2010, 08:29
,,!,,
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 09:32
\o

(was that for me)
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Jan 2010, 10:04
o/
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Jan 2010, 12:04
@doombilly
.  Check out the forum at www.tdpri.com if you need help.  Lots of good tele info there.
Yeah, I'm on tdpri. Still everytime I think I got it solved I see another pitfall. Probably just being over-cautious. Thanks.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jan 2010, 12:35
why have you not left the board

Acting like a bit of an asshole there, sam.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 12 Jan 2010, 12:59
no actually he isn't
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jan 2010, 13:29
What is up with the recent Zingoleb hate?
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Post by: Lummer on 12 Jan 2010, 13:37
Explanation via pm, plox...
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Post by: sean on 12 Jan 2010, 14:00
why haven't we been hating on zingoleb this entie time guys?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 14:08
Man, I was hoping the drama would stay out of the music forum.

I was a dick and did something pretty douchebaggy to put it lightly. I apologized but no one really cares because, well, I'm and outsider and insulted someone they held dear to their hearts and bowed out of the infinite pony part of the forums for it. Just because you tell me to leave doesn't mean I will, but I'll leave your sacred little ground alone where I'm not welcome. I'm not leaving these music forums, though, because they still make a difference in my life, far more than your group hug down there.

So you don't have to deal with me there, but you do up here.

And stop sending me hate mail, I'm starting to get an ego over it.
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Post by: sean on 12 Jan 2010, 15:20
I'm starting to get an ego

about fucking time

also the point is yr a terrible poster in the first place and you did a really shitty thing on top of that and some of us use both forums and have no interest in seeing you at all.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 15:24
And I have an interest in at least being in the music forums.

Conflict of interests! You can keep telling me to leave and getting pissed off that I'm still here or you can settle for the fact that I'm only here, in the music forums, and not there. Sound good?
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Post by: sean on 12 Jan 2010, 15:30
no
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Post by: The Duke on 12 Jan 2010, 15:33
How about them...

*snaps fingers and points* ...guitars eh?
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Jan 2010, 15:50
Your friend invites you to a party. You show up and take a dump on the tennis court. When you are asked to leave, you insist on still being able to use the pool because it is fun.

You then pee in the pool to make a point.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Jan 2010, 16:02
Explanation via pm, plox...

Me too, please. I hate being out of the loop!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 16:37
You're just rehashing what A¶de (or however you spell it said, and I believe he said it) in the other thread. And to further his analogy rather than yours -

I'm at a party where people are free to come and go as they please. I insult someone without really meaning to, people get upset, so I decide to go to another party. Then some of the people from that first party are there and are still upset and the rest of the people at the second party are trying to figure out what the hell is this, now.

I don't like drama. I'm doing my best to avoid it by ducking out of there, but you're not making me leave here no matter how long and hard you yell. To misquote a dumbass, if you don't like it, then ban me.

@ Duke - guitars will never beat INTERWEB DRAMAZ. D:D:D:D:D:
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 17:17
Kill one baby, they never let you forget it...
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Post by: glyphic on 13 Jan 2010, 06:18
So... guitars...

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11734.jpg)

The neck is so long it almost feels like I'm playing a bass. The sound is so twangy and full, though. Plus, it is probably the lightest guitar I've played in a long time. The tremolo bar makes me feel like I'm going to snap the entire bridge off, but I don't plan on using it too much anyway.

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11733.jpg)

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Post by: doombilly on 13 Jan 2010, 06:56
So exactly 78billions years ago I ordered a replacement tremelo bar for Musty my USAMERICAN S8 Fender Mustang. The lady on the phone, (back in those days you ordered on what we called the telephone. It is like your iPhone, with out the 'i'). The nice lady said they had two versions one would fit and one would not. The one they sent does not. So on the 78billionth anniversary I am contemplating on using this internet to find one that fits. GFS has one saying it is a 10/32 or some such. Does anyone know that if there is a chance it would fit? Because I might order one with the tele bridge replacement. Or maybe just tie and onion to my belt...
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Jan 2010, 14:34
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2085_11421030)
Ordered ..sigh....
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Post by: Lummer on 13 Jan 2010, 15:01
Goddamnit my Flying V kicks so much ass!!!
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Jan 2010, 15:06
So... guitars...

I haven't snapped the tremolo yet.
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Post by: The Duke on 13 Jan 2010, 18:53
Goddamnit my Flying V kicks so much ass!!!

You have a Flying V?!

rgghmmrghhmrhggmmm...

(That is the sound of a jealous man with an erection for a guitar.)
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Jan 2010, 02:11
Yes.

Yes I do.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0878.jpg)

BOW DOWN!
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2010, 08:10
Quote
The SE Torero offers many "firsts" for PRS Guitars, and is dubbed by Paul Reed Smith himself as "a shredder's dream." Features unique to the new SE Torero and first ever for PRS are the use of a Floyd Rose bridge, EMG pickups, and neck-through body construction.

Quote
Wayne Johnson, PRS Amp team member and a 2008 recipient of "The Ten Hottest New Guitarists of the Month" by Guitar Player magazine forum members describes this new model as "sonically devastating," and PRS's SE Inspector Dong Chang also offered, "This guitar makes you play harder."

Hi, we're PRS and we're trying to copy ESP and Schecter. (http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/PRS-Releases-First-Model-Featuring-a-Floyd-Rose-Bridge-The-SE-Torero/large-torero_art.jpg)
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 Jan 2010, 09:18
Holy crowstick, that is not only an awesome guitar but an awesome picture of an awesome guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2010, 09:23
Wow, not at all what I was trying to convey there.
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Post by: sean on 14 Jan 2010, 09:30
man you even have bad taste in guitars!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 Jan 2010, 09:57
I was talking about Lummer's guitar, not the PRS.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2010, 10:32
Don't forget that Dong Chang said it makes you play harder, Sam.
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Jan 2010, 10:44
Obviously Lummer's is too small. Nancy-boy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTX3CaTWbkM

Man, you know those "sterling by Music man ax40" guitars would not be so bad if they took a clue from the V and just made it a normal color and got away from the flamey flamey flame veneer.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/7/8/3/586783.jpg)

See that would look ok in White or Black.
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Jan 2010, 14:38
That guy's just really tiny.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jan 2010, 18:04
So hey are the pickups available from guitarfetish any good? I've heard some good things about some, but really know very little. I'm working on a weirdass esquire based guitar thingy and need a tele bridge pickup. I also made a mockup body out of scrap pine for ergonomics and appearance testing and when I find a camera would like some aesthetic feedback.
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Post by: Christophe on 14 Jan 2010, 18:23
Those Brighton Rocks from GFS are supposed to come on the 19th. As soon as I get that, get my guitar back from the shop and find a soldering gun, I'll let you know.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jan 2010, 18:35
right on
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 14 Jan 2010, 18:43

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6464/dsc0060c.jpg)
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9343/dsc0059i.jpg)

Here's my semi modest gear. Lacking a Ceriatone 18w with 2x12'' cab and my acoustics, but other than that, it's all there.

Say praises/insults at will!
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Jan 2010, 19:34
GFS pickups are good for what you pay for.  I built a tele-partscaster with a mini humbucker and their repro-60's tele bridge.  Pretty nice, and unlike higher end pups, if you don't like it at least you didn't spend $100+ on it.  I like 'em pleanty good.

Also, very interested about those Brighton Rock pickups.  Any chance of a video or audio demo after you get them?

P.S. The Brighton Rock pickups definitely should have been named Fat Bottom Girls.  Just saying.
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Jan 2010, 01:53
I'm planning on doing before-after recordings. Hopefully they will turn out well.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 15 Jan 2010, 03:16
Given that you've mentioned soldering gun instead of iron, I'm going to assume you haven't done a whole lot of soldering.   Based on that assumption, my free advice to you is to do some practicing before doing a pickup swap.  Not only can you cook components if you leave the heat on there too long, but (far more likely) the giant ass blobs of solder that you're going to get on everything can really affect tone.   Soldering isn't hard, but it does take a little bit of practice.  

In other news, you can pick up a soldering iron for about $15 at Radio Shack or Home Depot that will work just fine.  

I'm not trying to be a pompous ass here, so if I'm coming off as one I apologize.   I've done a lot of soldering over the years though, and the results haven't always been pretty.  I just wanted to throw a caveat out there for anyone considering doing their first pickup swap.  My other advice is do it.  So much fun tearing your shit apart to modify/fix/break/whatever it.  Just be aware that you can fuck stuff up, but it's almost always fixable.


edit:  Correcting a mis-statement
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Jan 2010, 06:14
Speaking of GFS, what's the deal on the Xaviere Guit-fiddles? They seem too inexpensive to be of serious value.
No reviews on the Offsets yet on Harm Central neither.
But BONER!
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2086_6899438)

Orange guitar would look nice with the orange tolex Avatar and Tiny Terror. (And my Aqua Suit!)
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Jan 2010, 06:15
~GEAROVERLOAD~
Here's my semi modest gear. Lacking a Ceriatone 18w with 2x12'' cab and my acoustics, but other than that, it's all there.

Say praises/insults at will!
I praise thee!
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Jan 2010, 16:28
Given that you've mentioned soldering gun instead of iron, I'm going to assume you haven't done a whole lot of soldering.

I have made that mistake way too many times (saying gun when I mean iron) but yeah, I've not done very much soldering, at all. Thanks for the advice though, it is appreciated.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 15 Jan 2010, 16:50
'tis cool man.  Because I love building and modding my guitars I'm always excited  to see someone else with a little DIY  spirit in them.  Read (watch?) a tutorial or two on the 'net and get a little practice before going live on your guitar, because it sucks not being happy with the results, you know?
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Jan 2010, 01:14
Unless it's a classic player, which, as far as I know has a threaded trem arm and socket.

The one I just posted is a Classic Player, and it isn't threaded.

It is not a Classic Player. That's either a CIJ or MIJ. Know how I can tell? Because the Classic Player series doesn't have year-specific reissues, and as you said in the original post, it's a "66 Classic Player Jaguar". That is the name of a guitar that does not exist. Classic Player Jaguars also do not have blocks or binding, and the trem arm is threaded. Your Jag has blocks, binding, and your trem arm is not threaded.

Prove me wrong, and I will give you my AVRI.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 18 Jan 2010, 12:58
Y. At least, they look cool. Not sure if it would actually sound better, I am not a bassist.
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Post by: glyphic on 18 Jan 2010, 13:11
I have a 1x15 and a 4x10 in my rig. Mostly, the difference I notice is that the 15 gives me a more well-rounded tone. The 4x10 is all whump whump bling bling, whereas the 15 is most sprang sprum sprung. AMIRITE?
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jan 2010, 22:12
sooooooo



i'm thinking of buying an emperor 2x15 bass cab to replace my ashdown 4x10. y/n?

How much would you want for the 4x10 + shipping, and how long would you be willing to wait for me to give you exactly that amount? 'Cause I would really really really like a 4x10 cab to attach to my Marshall. The sonic assfuckery...
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2010, 13:30
Wife just informed me that my replacement telecaster bridge just arrived from GFS. I know you guys were all on the edges of your collective seats.
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Jan 2010, 14:43
Man my GFS stuff is supposed to get here today. It's quarter to 3.

I mean I don't even have a soldering iron or the guitar I'm gonna put that stuff on right now, I just want to see the goods.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2010, 15:15
Call me a WHAMbulance. I've ordered another tremelo bar that doesn't screw in to the mustang bridge. <sigh> Oh well, gotta practice tonight otherwise I'd be pulling the tele bridge off STAT.
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Jan 2010, 16:33
Just remember to mark off where the back of the old bridge sits on the body so you can line the new one up.  Screw in middle hole, string high and low E's, screw down the rest, and you should be set.  If any old holes are visible, then fuck it, your guitar has character!.
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Jan 2010, 17:03
Yay, everything just got here!

Now I need the guitar to put all that crap into (I also need a soldering iron).
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Jan 2010, 17:09
Radioshack?
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Jan 2010, 17:12
Borrow it from a friend probably. I am cheap.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2010, 17:21
Fuck that, you totally need to shoplift it. :D

Heyo fixed the improper fitting Mustang whammy bar with some teflon tape. Played the lat two sets (1 gig, 1 practice) with my 70's single coil guitars. Such a different sound.

Also Jesus Judas Jackolantern. My Mustang is crazy heavy. I will take some pics that are detailed. Maybe one of you wood nerds, sprites or other sylvan folk can i.d. the grain and make a guess at what the body is made of. It aint Alder. Honestly it is nearly as heavy as the wife's 60's/70's franken P-bass. And all the pics of sunburst 'stangs I've seen SUCK by comparison. If I could get this burst repro'd I'd have it on every guitar. You know, when I become ridiculously wealthy and what not. (Can you shoplift a paint job?).
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Jan 2010, 19:41
oh hey guitar thread, what's up?  (http://misadigital.com/)
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Jan 2010, 20:11
OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Post by: sean on 19 Jan 2010, 20:27
oh my god

i could do so much rad ambient shit with that thing
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Post by: Spluff on 19 Jan 2010, 20:58
That's kinda cool. It would probably cost a ridiculous amount though, when you could do the same thing with already existing equipment.
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Post by: Invammocon on 19 Jan 2010, 21:21
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/invammocon/111.jpg)
I'm Aaron and I can't say no to novelty guitars.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Jan 2010, 22:05
That's... the least classy guitar of all time. It's totally guitarded.



I would pay abhorrent amounts of money for that Misa guitar. It is everything I have ever wanted from a lover, in musical form.
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Post by: sean on 19 Jan 2010, 22:21
I can't say no to novelty guitars.

do you let them touch you at night without yr permission.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jan 2010, 22:49
i'm asking $300 and i could hold it until then, also you'd have to pay shipping which might be a lot. but i can hold it if you pay $300+shipping! i'll take pics of it and write down the specs and PM it to you on here.

Oh dude, totally sweet! Thing is, I don't have a job yet. But after I am employed and once I've got all my other important ducks in a row, I'll certainly get back to you. It's good to know that you'd be willing to part with it. And I don't expect you to hang onto it forever for me, if you wind up having to flip it then I don't care if you flip it to somebody else. Just, if you don't HAVE to part with it yet, I wanna get my name in the hat. Thanks!
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Jan 2010, 14:26
I'm Aaron and I can't say no to novelty guitars.

The fist one should definitely be rock-horns instead.
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Post by: jeph on 20 Jan 2010, 15:25
Fuck that, you totally need to shoplift it. :D

Heyo fixed the improper fitting Mustang whammy bar with some teflon tape. Played the lat two sets (1 gig, 1 practice) with my 70's single coil guitars. Such a different sound.

Also Jesus Judas Jackolantern. My Mustang is crazy heavy. I will take some pics that are detailed. Maybe one of you wood nerds, sprites or other sylvan folk can i.d. the grain and make a guess at what the body is made of. It aint Alder. Honestly it is nearly as heavy as the wife's 60's/70's franken P-bass. And all the pics of sunburst 'stangs I've seen SUCK by comparison. If I could get this burst repro'd I'd have it on every guitar. You know, when I become ridiculously wealthy and what not. (Can you shoplift a paint job?).


Every really old Fender I've ever handled has been ridiculously heavy. An ex-girlfriend had a 60's Strat she got from her grandmother that weighed more than my Les Paul. I don't know if it's the finish or denser wood or what but they just weigh a ton.

If I had to guess at the wood it'd be ash, ash can get pretty hefty depending on the kind. AFAIK Fender wasn't making guitars out of maple back then. And not all ash has that crazy intense swamp-ash grain.
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Jan 2010, 16:24
Right.  "Swamp Ash" is the southern cousin to the denser and heavier northern "baseball bat" ash.  I wouldn't say it would be uncommon for a guitar to be made out of this wood.  Would also make it heavy as fuck.
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Jan 2010, 16:42
I heard the ash they use to make baseball bats is running out because of climate change or some shit.  Hope that doesn't happen with the swamp ash.
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Post by: Invammocon on 20 Jan 2010, 17:09
I'm Aaron and I can't say no to novelty guitars.

The fist one should definitely be rock-horns instead.

Oh yeah, I'll just paint over it and add some giant fingers to it, that'll make it infinitely more accessable to play.
But really, it is pretty comfortable to play.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jan 2010, 18:17
ok, first recon on  the tele re-bridge... the gfs 'vintage style' is gonna have to go about 1/2" closer to the neck from where the other'n terminated. But I guess the string length can't be that big o' deal else if you drilled it to be string-thru it'd be way-way off. I took a shetload of pics I'll upload tomorrow if anyone is interested.
Good: The 3 holes drilled for the mexi bridge will be covered. They will be well away from the 4 holes I need to drill for the gfs bridge.
Meh: This is a lot lighter material than the bent slab of chromed crap that was in place. Ima have to make a template from the other bridge to make sure I get this bastard centered correctly.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Jan 2010, 18:34
I hope that I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but your scale length (bridge to nut) has to stay the same else all your frets are in the wrong place.

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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jan 2010, 19:02
Then I cannot use this bridge w/o routing this guitar. Which aint worth the trouble. f!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Jan 2010, 19:07
Can you post some pics of what is going on exactly?  Maybe somebody here can offer you a kludge.
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Jan 2010, 19:10
Just mark where the longest bridge saddle came to with the old bridge, and hen line up the new one.  At most, you'll have to drill a few new holes.  If the old holes are exposed, just paint them black so they don't stand out as much.

EDIT: Or, you could figure out what type of screws the saddles are attached to the back of the bridge with, and go get some longer ones.  That should work fan-freaking-tasticly.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Jan 2010, 19:15
And that's not far off from what I'm thinking.   This is why I'm asking for some pictures, because on a tele (this was a tele right?) I can't imagine what would be going on that would cause you to need to rout the body at the bridge, so I'm sure I'm just really confused about something.      I bet we can come up with a solution that doesn't involve routing anything.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2010, 04:11
Alright, will post some images later today. Unfortunately I took all the saddles out of the old bridge to get to the string holes I was using to mark the tape put down as a guide. The deal is, this bridge is shorter. I have a bunch of pics of side/side comparisons and a dry run of putting it in the guitar.
I was thinking that the saddles should strike at about the right place as is... but if I HAD to put the back of the bridge in the exact location as the old one, I could always cut the bridge in two. Use the bridge part for the BRIDGE and then slide the other part up the 1/2" or so to hold the bridge pup...
But obviously I'd rather not. Pics soon. Thanks for the input folks.
EDIT
This is probably the most telling tele bridge fiasco pic.
FIG 1-1
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4293015714_e7b3018a54.jpg)

See how they line up (or don't)
FIG 1-2
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4292274367_776cfb3d59.jpg)

One more from another'n angle
FIG 1-3
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4292273735_a24d25ec7f.jpg)

More here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/theblots/
 
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Jan 2010, 04:43
Ah... now I understand what's going on.

I'm running out the door for work right now, but let me ruminate on this one a bit.
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Jan 2010, 09:09
Hmm, that is a conundrum.  Maybe put the bridge pickup in place, then string the two e strings through the top load holes to line it  up (don't tighten to much though).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/tele_bridge_comp.jpg)
I think as long as the verry backs of the bridges are in the same place, the worst you'll have to do is drill some new screw holes, but the old ones will be covered the bridge if my little drawing there is accurate.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2010, 09:38
Problem is the pickup will not fit if the backs of the bridges are lined up.
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Jan 2010, 09:52
Oh wow, I screwed that one up, sorry, I meant as long as the pickup-slots are matched up.  Try putting the bridge pickup on the bridge, then stringing up the two E's through the top-loader holes.  Tighten the tuning posts until the bridge is level, then mark where the new screw holes should be.  That should do the trick I think.
EDIT:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/tele_bridge_comp2.jpg)
here's a better drawing
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Post by: GenericName on 21 Jan 2010, 14:49
But then the intonation will be all off! But hopefully not too much and then you can just mess with it a lot until it works?
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2010, 14:58
But then the intonation will be all off! But hopefully not too much and then you can just mess with it a lot until it works?
yah, that's what I'm worried about. I already have one guitar that won't stay in tune.  :?

EDIT
I am almost of a mind to just drill three holes on the back lip of the orig bridge and use the saddles from the new one. Wish I had a drill press...
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Jan 2010, 18:05
But then the intonation will be all off! But hopefully not too much and then you can just mess with it a lot until it works?
yah, that's what I'm worried about. I already have one guitar that won't stay in tune.  :?

EDIT
I am almost of a mind to just drill three holes on the back lip of the orig bridge and use the saddles from the new one. Wish I had a drill press...
If you string the strings through the top-load holes, you could just shorten the saddle screws until they're right.  This means you'd have to top-load the strings, but you were going to do that anyway, right?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Jan 2010, 18:46
^^^^This.   Plus, thank god for bolt on necks, if you're --you know-- like an 1/8" off, you can shim the neck out if you have to.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Jan 2010, 04:55
Otay buckwheats!
Yeah, it does not have holes drilled for string thru. Seemed like that was unnecessary. I'll give it a whirl. And report back with probably more info that you care to hear about. :P
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Jan 2010, 07:10
Please do!  Every musician should know how to fix up or make their own instrument unique!  Make stuff no one's ever heard of.  Example: a short scale Thinline Telecaster Bass this guy made out of a squire shorty bass and an old tele body:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/rhomco/TeleThinlineBass002-2.jpg)
If made out of a heavy wood like walnut or mahogany and played with a thick enough strap, neck dive issue is basically solved.  Is this awesome?  Very yes!
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Jan 2010, 07:46
haha, I wish my Black Widow held a better tuning. They had a few things right, unless a lightweight intrument is your desire. The Stop piece behind the bridge is just a gigantic block of chromed steel screwed down to the body. That thing is probably 6 ounces on its own. The nut, a piece of chromed steel with 6 holes drilled. (It has a zero fret). Wish the neck weren't so oddball. I ended up shimming the gap on the side of the neck I mentioned before. I cut a rectangled piece out of an electronic receptacle box. Just jammed it in there. Now the G stays in better tune but the b is a little more problematic. Also sometimes the strings go sharp, then flat, then keep going back/forth. Anyway, my wife is going out of town Sunday, hopefully I'll get some time to work on the tele then. Got some roof repairs to do too though... :(
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Jan 2010, 07:47
That bass is not helping me deal with my tele/thinline-gas.  :|
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Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Jan 2010, 20:54
a short scale Thinline Telecaster Bass

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Post by: Ballard on 23 Jan 2010, 13:43
In before the rest of the page is a FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF quote tunnel.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Jan 2010, 14:47
a short scale Thinline Telecaster Bass

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In before the rest of the page is a FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF quote tunnel.

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Post by: Christophe on 23 Jan 2010, 15:42
AHHHH C'MON FFFFFFFFFFF A GUY
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2010, 17:32
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/S1uiKQeuqLI/AAAAAAAAOhM/PE9fR2VOv7Y/s400/IMG00260-20100123-1747.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars)
click pic for moar
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jan 2010, 17:51
fix pic for moar
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2010, 17:53
huh, does this not work?
http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars
I aint drunk, just drinking...
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jan 2010, 17:55
Oops... there's nothing to see here. Either you do not have access to these photos, or they don't exist at this web address. Please contact the owner directly to gain access.
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Post by: Spluff on 23 Jan 2010, 17:59
It works for me.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2010, 17:59
Gol durn intreewebz
http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars#
How about now?
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jan 2010, 23:10
you fixed the intertewbs.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Jan 2010, 23:29
Fuck my sister, that's a gorgeous Mustang.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 05:15
yeah, I think Jeph was right. Maybe it is ASH (Not swampy). Crazy to use this as my Parker backup as it is easily twice as heavy AND a short scale. It was the only USAmerican guitar in Dellington's Pawn shop of Washington NC. I almost lost it to someone else the day i went to put in on layaway. 10 weeks and $200 later it came home with me. But I really love the burst on that. I used to try to get all my guitars in a burst but most just did not look that good. Kinda spoiled me...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Jan 2010, 06:59
Got any more pictures of that jazzbox?
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 08:01
Got any more pictures of that jazzbox?
Just took some. Will post later.

Guys! Bridge is on. Gonna walk some chihuahuas before I string up the mexi red. What's the best thing to take sharpie ink off of chrome?
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Jan 2010, 10:44
Rubbing alcohol. Sharpies and most permanent markers are alcohol-based.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 11:05
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/S1yX56E1L5I/AAAAAAAAOk8/Lk44jslkhWs/s288/IMG00289-20100124-1352.jpg)
Woot, did a whole set up myself using this:
http://www.fender.com/support/telecaster_setup_guide.php
-and a modicum of common sense. I need to get me a decent steel ruler and some feeler gauges. Bu tI kind of let my ear, the tuner and the lack/presence of string buzz be my guide. I don't know if it the bridge or that I reset the pickup heights but this thing sounds like a bear now. Growwwwwwllllll!

Also moar guitarded pics here: http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars#

NOTE: All my guitars are kind of grimey. Except for the parts that work, do things. Also I have not washed a car I own in almost 10 yrs. So, sorry about the filth. I know a lot of guys are more careful and clean. I really should rent myself out as a guitar relic-er-er-er.
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Post by: Bearer on 24 Jan 2010, 11:11
The brass saddles are supposed to make the tone of a tele more beefy, so maybe that could be it.  Awesome to see it on there!  How's the intonation?
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 11:28
Actually I think after considerable adjustment, it intonates better than it did. The E/A saddle, I had to keep backing it up. The D/G was one of those, "I'll split the difference" moments. One was going a bit sharp on the 12th fret, the other a tad flat. I actually increated the bow of the neck as it kept buzzing in random places. The high E used to be a problem because the saddle would flip over or the @$%^#$ height adj allen would back out while playing. So the string buzz/relief issue might have been going on with the other bridge. Only I couldn't hear it over my cussing the thing. :P I'll get soome guages and set the pickups to a standard height, I guess. I kind of like its new found mean-assed sound. But I'm likely losing some sustain if the poles are too close to the strings, I reckon.

Also I was really surprised at how well the bridge pickup was wired and glad I didn't have to clip it and re-solder. Volume pot is a wee bit wobbly too. Anyone have opinions on the merits of going to a higher impedance pot on a single coil?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 24 Jan 2010, 12:49
Anyone have opinions on the merits of going to a higher impedance pot on a single coil?

Unless you're swapping the pickup to a bucker, something active, or something seriously hot and probably ceramic instead of AlNiCo, don't. 
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Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 00:12
Tom Anderson came out with a full-on Les Paul clone (http://andersonguitars.com/weekly.html).

spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Jan 2010, 00:50
Fffffffffffffffffffffff

-uck flame maple.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Jan 2010, 05:53
Fffffffffffffff-

-uck you, flamed maple is perfectly legit on some guitars, including that.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jan 2010, 13:05
Tom Anderson came out with a full-on Les Paul clone (http://andersonguitars.com/weekly.html).

spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

Anybody else notice that the bridge and tailpiece are recessed into the maple? That's an interesting idea...
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Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 13:09
Fffffffffffffffffffffff

-uck flame maple.

hurf durf I don't understand one of the most basic traditions of Les Paul style guitars dating back to the 1950s
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Post by: glyphic on 25 Jan 2010, 14:00
In some parts of Asia, it is tradition to drown females upon birth.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jan 2010, 14:06
Yeah but dude I'm gonna have to side with Jeph on this one. As long as it's not flamed maple that looks like the Great Chicago Fire (I AM LOOKING AT YOU, PRS), and instead looks like maybe a nice crackling fireplace, then it is fine.

I still think Explorers are worthless instruments though.
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Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 17:52
In some parts of Asia, it is tradition to drown females upon birth.

yes that is a perfectly valid comparisonOH WAIT no it isn't what is wrong with you
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 17:53
Tom Anderson came out with a full-on Les Paul clone (http://andersonguitars.com/weekly.html).

spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

Anybody else notice that the bridge and tailpiece are recessed into the maple? That's an interesting idea...

Peavey did this with their EVH models and it made them hell of comfy to play. If I had $4,000 that didn't need to go towards my mortgage I'd totally be buying one of these things.
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Jan 2010, 18:40
In some parts of Asia, it is tradition to drown females upon DISPLAYING THEIR FLAMED MAPLE CAPS.
Well that makes sense, nothing to see here. They had it coming. I'm drunk.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jan 2010, 07:06
I... I just don't even know what to say anymore.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jan 2010, 12:35
Peavey did this with their EVH models and it made them hell of comfy to play.

If I wanted a Floyd and buckers, I'd get a Jackson or an Ibanez and at least look the part.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Jan 2010, 16:45
You people with your guitars. Um, my work decided to fucking block QC.net. Probably because they suck dead goat ballz. So I might be more sparse on here -to the good fortune of you folk. I would like to express my gratitude for the crowdsource assist on my tele-mod and other things. Y'all were right on the closed back avatar cab too. (Not that I have an open back to a/b test, but I think this works).

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Post by: jeph on 26 Jan 2010, 17:44
Peavey did this with their EVH models and it made them hell of comfy to play.

If I wanted a Floyd and buckers, I'd get a Jackson or an Ibanez and at least look the part.

Mine was one of the (fairly uncommon) stoptail models. :smug:

Ended up selling it because the pickups weren't that great :unsmug:
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Post by: Tehz on 26 Jan 2010, 19:35
So, I might be trading my CIJ Jazzmaster for a 78 Gibson "The Paul" this weekend. It's kind of beaten up and the pickups are non-original, but I plan on making something of a project out of it, cleaning it up and trying to make a real player out of it. I'm pretty excited.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 27 Jan 2010, 04:06
Fffffffffffffffffffffff

-uck flame maple.

hurf durf I don't understand one of the most basic traditions of Les Paul style guitars dating back to the 1950s

hurf durk who gives a fuck, shit's still ugly as all get-out
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Jan 2010, 05:40
So, I might be trading my CIJ Jazzmaster for a 78 Gibson "The Paul" this weekend. It's kind of beaten up and the pickups are non-original, but I plan on making something of a project out of it, cleaning it up and trying to make a real player out of it. I'm pretty excited.

Do it, 'cause you know, Fuuuuuuck offsets.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 09:43
Um no?
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Post by: Lummer on 27 Jan 2010, 09:59
It really is quite funny how tastes in this thread are completely polarized.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 10:06
Tell me a Fender Duo-Sonic II is not a sexy muffuckin' guitar.

I dare you.
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jan 2010, 11:37
Oh god Shane is that-- SHANE PUT DOWN THE FUCKING DETONATOR
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 11:57
That's what I thought.

(http://www.louisvillediscgolf.com/Jeremy/Picture%201.png)
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jan 2010, 12:17
Upping the ante

(http://camouflageculture.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/auto_liz_phair.jpg)
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Post by: greenMonkey on 27 Jan 2010, 14:56
UNF.

Oh and the girl looks pretty too.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Jan 2010, 15:54
Fuck and Run!

Also, (http://www.detroitfunk.com/imagecopyrighted/OCT06/DSC01471.jpg) Played by Fred 'Sonic' Smith and Patti Smith.
Ask 4 it by name.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Jan 2010, 06:10
It really is quite funny how tastes in this thread are completely polarized.

The only reason for my name on this board is because i go by 'Bigfan' on fender-related forums

Edit: I also totally love offsets
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Jan 2010, 03:11
I just want a goddamned 8-string.
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Post by: glyphic on 29 Jan 2010, 10:31
(http://www.hdcustomguitars.com/images/8string_body.jpg)
Hotlinked for your enjoyment.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Jan 2010, 11:11
I just want a goddamned 8-string.

8-strings take up most of my GAS nowadays.
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Post by: Akima on 29 Jan 2010, 16:37
Is an eight-string like an amp that goes up to eleven?
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Post by: sean on 29 Jan 2010, 16:44
no it is like an amp that somebody cut the electrical cord off of.

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Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Jan 2010, 00:47
AMPS AND GUITARS ARE DIFFERENT, SILLY
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jan 2010, 02:17
Guys the other day I played a Schecter Ultra III through an AC15 at the music shop downtown

/thread
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Jan 2010, 07:27
not really
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Jan 2010, 08:00
He does have a point, Patchy. While an AC15 is god amongst amps, the best Schecter is comparable to the tallest midget.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jan 2010, 14:02
Shane you haven't played this thing, it's like what I imagine a Strat would be like if Strats weren't played out, kitchy pieces of shit
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Post by: glyphic on 31 Jan 2010, 09:07
That's what I play, Patrick. I fell in love with the damn thing instantly. The only bad thing about it is that it weighs like 20 pounds. That, and it's near impossible to change pickup settings while you're playing. Plus, it is totally pretty.
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Post by: Patrick on 31 Jan 2010, 12:31
The weight actually didn't bother me, and the switching was very similar to my Jag's. Only thing that bugged me was the sustain, actually. With all those Strat-like sounds, I was expecting it to sustain less. I guess it's not actually a bad thing, but damn, it threw me off.

I'm seriously considering buying one when I can afford it, though. It wouldn't be such an important thing that I'd get it before getting a car, but I will wind up owning one of these someday.
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Post by: I CAN DIVIDE BY ZERO on 31 Jan 2010, 16:55
Mine are nothing special, but what the heck, I'll post 'em anyway.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8472/guitarsc.jpg)

Yep. Two (fairly) standard acoustic guitars, though the one on the left has a pre-amp set-up and can plug into an amp, if that's of any significance.

P.S. Hi everybody! It's been a while.
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Feb 2010, 10:29
I remember one of you guys praising the T-60, so I present this:


EDIT: The craigslist posting was deleted. Must have sold.

Anyway, It was a T-60 with hard-shell case for $175. Looked to be in great shape.
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Post by: The Duke on 01 Feb 2010, 13:20
"This posting has been deleted by its author."
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Feb 2010, 13:22
It was there earlier today.

 :?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 Feb 2010, 18:19
Probably 'twas me.  I have a '79 T-60 that is approximately eighteen kinds of bad-mutha-fuckin-ass.    I want to buy more.
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Feb 2010, 18:43
You missed the boat, then. It looked like the sweetest deal.

Instead, I grabbed an archtop roller bridge off Guitar Fetish and I'm going to finally get going on my project Teisco.

In the near future, I am going to be trying to get this thing stageworthy.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Feb 2010, 01:40
Ah well, that's what I get for going on a trip.  Traveling instead of forum lurking.  Sounds like it was a good deal.
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Post by: Tehz on 07 Feb 2010, 16:57
Today, I acquired my first vintage piece (sorta), my first American-made guitar, and my first Gibson; a 1978 Gibson "The Paul", which I received in a trade with OSG member vigs. I no longer own a Jazzmaster or any other offsets for that matter, but oh my god I love this Paul so much it doesn't even matter to me right now.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/IMG_0592.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/IMG_0596.jpg)

The neck is perfect, and it is literally the lightest Gibson I've ever played. I'd say the trade was definitely worth it. Also, there is a huge Hüsker Dü sticker on the back, which is a big plus in my book.
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Feb 2010, 17:04
Dude that is a titally awesome guitar you have there. Coincidentally I have a Fender Lead II, possibly one of the heaviest Fenders around.

Hey dicks--what is a good amount of time to let a soldering iron heat up for? I was trying it out on an old guitar's wiring and it didn't seem hot enough to use properly (i.e. the solder wasn't getting hot enough). It's a 30-watt iron that I bought from RadioShack.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 07 Feb 2010, 17:12
It should be hot enough after just a minute or two.  What kind of solder are you using?
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Feb 2010, 17:14
60/40 I think. It seemed to be the only kind that RS had.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2010, 08:50
The ass is up with the clusterfuck of control on that Paul?
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Post by: Tehz on 08 Feb 2010, 11:28
One of the knobs is missing (soon to be replaced) and I guess they just decided to throw the toggle switch down there also. I dunno, it doesn't bother me much. Less chance of hitting it while I play.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Feb 2010, 11:46
I know a guy who has almost the exact same Les Paul as you, dogg. That instrument is probably the only dual-humbucker solidbody I would really ever consider buying, ever.

Chris my Jag is like 90lbs heavier than your Lead II what are you talking about.

In other news, I got all my shit in the mail the other day. Post Office marked my amp's box "100LBS" even though it weighs 52.
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Post by: Christophe on 08 Feb 2010, 12:28
Ok so I wired in the new pickups into the Lead II this morning. I'm not sure how well done the wiring was (or if i had fried something) so hopefully any damage is minimal, the joints are solid, and I have a rockin' guitar when I restring it.
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Post by: Christophe on 09 Feb 2010, 12:41
UPDATE: The guitar sounds perfect and awesome w/ the new pickups, with one minor caveat.

I think I might have fried one of the switches. For those of you familiar with the Fender Lead II wiring found here (http://jfetdel.free.fr/lead/indexEn.html), the Lead II has two switches--one a normal pickup selector, and a two-way switch that changes the phase of the neck pickup. On one position the phase is normal and with both pups selected you get a normal two-pickup tone. Switch to the 2nd position and you get a nasal, out-of-phase sound.

The guitar sounds good in the out of phase position but when the phase is normal I get a crackly sound out of the neck pickup. What did I do wrong? Fry the switch? Bad soldering? Fuck a guy?

EDIT: I checked the wiring of the switch. I've drawn up what it's supposed to look like:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/phaseswitchschematic.png)

Now I think that the diagonal connections which essentially do the phase thing--those wires must have gotten fried, considering how badly brown and burnt they look. Will it solve the problem to re-do it with new wires or just get a new switch?

Also, Seymour Duncan lists a different way to do the phase reversal switch. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=phase_reversal_singlecoils)
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Feb 2010, 00:21
OK I am going to need the help of someone well-versed in guitar wiring (A Wet Helmet, that means you), stat.

I replaced the cross-wires of the phase switch but to no avail, the same thing happens. Sound in out-of-phase mode, no sound in normal mode. So I decide, "fuck it" and decide to remove the switch and just let the guitar function as a normal two-pickup switch guitar.

But guess what. The fucking neck pickup now produces no sound. Whatsoever! Looks like the neck pickup (RW/RP by the way) only works when put in the out-of-phase position. What the hell? Is it possible that the ground and hot wires got reversed? Or (heavens forbid) is the fucking neck pickup a dud?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 11 Feb 2010, 04:10
Aw fuck...  electrical questions before I've even had my coffee.   I'm not sure I'm ready for this.

Let's start with the basics.   A single coil pick up is an extremely simple circuit.  If it works one way, it'll work the other way.  I doubt the pickup is a dud.    My first guess (and I promise to come back and look at all the wiring diagrams later) is you cooked the phase switch which is why it was only working correctly one way.  When you tried to remove it from the circuit, you either wired it incorrectly or have a bad joint somewhere.

Any chance you can flip that scratchplate over and take a few pictures?
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Feb 2010, 08:25
Sure thing.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P2119925.jpg)

Here's the phase switch. White wire goes to the pickup selector switch, black wire to ground.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P2119922.jpg)

Here's the pickup selector switch. The wire on top comes from the bridge pickup, the bottom from the neck (previously it would have come from the white wire on the phase switch). Considering I now realize how these switches work (the actual mechanical way they are supposed to switch) I am now entertaining the fact that I may have cooked both switches.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P2119923.jpg)

Here's a side view of the switch.

Hopefully this sheds some light on things?
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Post by: glyphic on 11 Feb 2010, 11:32
Guys, you're killing me. I am getting ready to throw a new switch system on my crappy hollowbody and you're making me think that it's much harder than I thought.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 11 Feb 2010, 12:57
Considering I now realize how these switches work (the actual mechanical way they are supposed to switch) I am now entertaining the fact that I may have cooked both switches.


I guess the obvious question at this point is... Do you have a couple of switches laying around to troubleshoot with?   That bottom picture looks like the plastic melted a bit.  If that's what that shiny spot is, that's not usually a good sign.
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Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 11 Feb 2010, 17:51
The other day I bought, sight unseen, a Gould copy of an Ernie Ball bass from a mate for a mere £35.  I've lucked out massively here, because despite it being a Gould (which as far as I'm aware is a cheap-copy company like Squier or Encore...), it sounds NIIIIICE, it's been rewired recently, and needs very little work to make it a keeper - I need to find a chrome plate to screw in over the battery compartment in the back, tighten a slightly wobbly volume knob, and it should be good as new.  I'll get some pics up once I've cleaned it up a bit and put new strings on.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Feb 2010, 20:00
ok I think for now I ought to leave well enough alone. I re-wired the guitar as it would normally be and have to live with the two pickups being out of phase in middle mode. After trying some things out, the pickups should be okay, the phase switch should work, but it's still not doing things properly--but when I played it through an amp through the normal in-phase two-pickup mode I could hear the guitar playing, but really really faintly and not audible unless you were right next to the speaker. They are meant to be rw/rp--maybe they canceled out the noise frequency a bit too well?

Or maybe I just fried the switch.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Feb 2010, 09:17
(which as far as I'm aware is a cheap-copy company like Squier or Encore...)

For the last fucking time, SQUIER IS MAKING REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE GUITARS.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 12 Feb 2010, 09:29
I love my Squire Thinline.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Feb 2010, 10:25
the guitarist in my band is getting a squier thinline repro, the natural mahogany finish one and switching the pickups out for something else. i'm pretty stoked.

Are you guys starting a "when Weezer were good" cover band?

God. Brian Bell used to give me such GAS for thinlines.
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Post by: Christophe on 12 Feb 2010, 13:13
OK, Phaseswitchgate update: Looks like the switch is indeed fuckered. After playing for a bit I realized that if I put the switch somewhat halfway, it functioned as it should; both pickups in phase. But put it all the way and no sound comes out.

Any way to fix the switch or should I just get a new one?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 Feb 2010, 13:23
Buy a new one.

And don't feel bad about it.  I have a strat about ten feet away from me right now that I burnt the switch in, and I've been soldering (though I must admit, not guitars) for 20 years. 

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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 Feb 2010, 14:23
SQUIER IS MAKING REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE GUITARS.

I've been thinking about buying a couple of 51's just to have a framework for doing crazy ass mods.
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Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 12 Feb 2010, 16:06
(which as far as I'm aware is a cheap-copy company like Squier or Encore...)

For the last fucking time, SQUIER IS MAKING REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE GUITARS.

what do you work for them or something!?  calm down!  i didn't totally trash them did i?  but on the evidence of the squier bass i own, they're nothing special.
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Post by: Spluff on 12 Feb 2010, 16:17
That makes me wonder just how poor their basses are.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Feb 2010, 22:26
Don't make me post that sound clip of my Squier that I made last year. I will pull that trigger SO FAST
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Feb 2010, 06:50
Does that mean that the jagmaster is actually a good guitar? I've never tried one out.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 13 Feb 2010, 08:27
afaik the Jagmaster is a pretty decent guitar for the price.
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Feb 2010, 16:43
I think my island of misfit guitars needs the company of one of them Dan Armstong Plexiglas re-issues.
Someone run out an' fetch me one. Get the little woman the bass model too. Hurry up now.
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/8da72b3c35e473dd37906c220d99eeb8.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Feb 2010, 03:14
It has a total of three strap buttons

Why does it have so many
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Feb 2010, 17:58
Because 11 is more than 10. Duh.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 15 Feb 2010, 18:29
It has a total of three strap buttons

Why does it have so many

My guess is so it can be converted into a lefty.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Feb 2010, 21:54
Wouldn't there need to be a button on the lower horn for that?

Hey Guitar Fucks, can someone explain GAS to me? I'm assuming it's an acronym of some kind?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Feb 2010, 22:52
Gear Acquisition Syndrome, it's a terrible disease.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 17 Feb 2010, 01:14
"Disease" is a word used for stuff like gonorrhea or chlamydia or AIDS or some shit. Feeding the purest vice I have? Call it what you want, mang, but it ain't no disease.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Feb 2010, 07:42
Well i'm pretty much broke because of it. I mean, even aids can't get you broke (break you up?).
Disease is probably the wrong word though.
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Post by: The Duke on 17 Feb 2010, 13:11
Hey Guitar Topic, I saw this list of novelty guitars (http://www.holytaco.com/25-awesome-guitars) and thought you might like to see it too!
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Post by: Nodaisho on 17 Feb 2010, 14:09
Oh god, the comment section. I need to borrow a Neutron bomb, be right back.

Who is the one with the mountain backdrop used by? I know I've seen it somewhere before.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 17 Feb 2010, 17:10
So this:

(http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/12/glennbranca.jpg)

I've actually been thinking about building something along these lines only w/o  it actually being two guitar bodies.  I was thinking more like a chapman stick with pickups on both ends and maybe just frets five through seventeen or seven through nineteen (I haven't really started planning anything, just idly musing).    Without having actually built the damn thing and trying it, I'm imagining some sick-nasty drone rock being possible.   
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Feb 2010, 17:43
guitar centipede
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Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Feb 2010, 23:19
Quote
<12-neck strat>

oh come on

(also the dude in that guitarboat is Josh Pyke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwRqD4Kmiy4). Josh Pyke is cool!)
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Feb 2010, 03:54
I would totally be the guy to bring an assault rifle-shaped electric guitar through security at an airport

I am the worst kind of person
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Post by: Ballard on 18 Feb 2010, 06:35
God dammit guys Rick Nielsen isn't a novelty!
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Feb 2010, 15:51
His guitar kind of was.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 22 Feb 2010, 13:51
I don't know if anyone is particularly interested in making their own pickups, but if you are, Jason Lollar just put a re-print of his book up on his site today.   You can find it  here.  (http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=501)

If you are in the botique pickup winding biz, you probably already know that photocopies of this thing sell for $500 on ebay.  I was "lucky" (or not, depending on how you look at it) to get a used original from a collectible book dealer for $300 and some change about two years ago.    If I'm going to be honest in my review of it the winder itself wasn't particularly better (but neither was it worse... just different) than one I had built myself already, but the traverse mechanism was something I hadn't really figured out yet and the little tid-bits here and there that he just drops in are well worth the price of buying an original copy.

So... If you want to make your own pickups but don't know where to start, this is a good place.  Be aware, you have to be somewhat mechanically inclined to noodle out his concepts yourself.  It's not a "go to Lowe's and buy  this, go to True Value and buy this" kind of parts list.   You'll need some tools and the ability to improvise.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2010, 02:02
Speaking of pickups, any of you remember that beat-to-hell 2006 Squier Bullet of mine? The one that had the middle pickup blow out on me, and I fucked around with it and made it super ghetto-fabulous?

Well, two summers ago, I bought new guts for her, and tried to turn her into a Telecaster-in-Strat's-body. This went well except for the fact that the bridge pickup I bought for her was defective right out of the factory. Hella bullshit, right?

Well, having moved back to California recently, I've had access to all of my guitars, including the piece of shit PRS clone my step-uncle gave me after he'd very poorly assembled it from a kit. While the workmanship during the assembly process was absolute shit, the hardware managed to avoid being damaged. Meaning I have a set of humbuckers in pretty excellent condition, just waiting for me to play with.

I'm totally putting one in the bridge of my Squier as we speak. This guitar's a fucking rat rod Frankensteined piece of shit but she's gonna sound and play like a champion. I love her so very very very much :D
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Feb 2010, 03:21
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs199.snc3/20631_1252124416908_1043430031_30613615_1034050_n.jpg)

OHHHHHH FUUUUUCK
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Feb 2010, 03:54
IT'S FUCKIN' FRANKENTAR
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Feb 2010, 05:08
Now that's a proper crackwhore.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 09:07
YES, PATRICK.


(upside down jack?)
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Post by: Cernunnos on 25 Feb 2010, 09:37
No, inside out.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 09:44
Oh shit! Weird. And awesome.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 25 Feb 2010, 11:35
(http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/images/godwin2/godwin21.jpg)
(http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/images/godwin2/godwin22.jpg)
A guitar that is also an organ


http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/sold/godwin2.htm
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 11:56
From what I've read about those, they sounded like ass and weighed as much as a redwood tree.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2010, 14:54
IT'S FUCKIN' FRANKENTAR
Now that's a proper crackwhore.

Thanks you guys. I love her so very much. Her name is Bitch.

GUYS GUYS GUYS that same site that Emilio found that guitar on also has a 1976 Fender Starcaster (http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/fenderstarcaster.htm) for sale

Hooooooly fuck
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Feb 2010, 15:20
Sweet dang, six thousand is way overpriced no matter how awesome starcasters are.
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Post by: Christophe on 25 Feb 2010, 22:25
So remember that stupid neck pickup I installed on my Lead II that wasn't working properly?

Guess what. It doesn't fucking work in phase. There was nothing wrong with the fucking switches, it was the g.d. pickup that was the problem.

I promptly removed it from the guitar and replaced it with the original. Well, that's that.
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Mar 2010, 06:45
That picture makes me furious.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 01 Mar 2010, 07:07
That picture makes me furious.

Seriously. I think the only guy allowed to play a 2 string bass is the dude from the JAMC.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Mar 2010, 08:04
Still better than those nine-string basses though.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 08:52
My friend offered me his old MusicMan head for $200 yesterday. It sounded rad as fuck, and I'm really debating it, but I need to do a little more research.

Edit: In a tiny house, do I REALLY need a 130 watt head?
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Post by: imapiratearg on 01 Mar 2010, 09:16
Uh, yeah.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 09:18
It DOES have a master volume. And a "low" selection on the power switch.

Hmmmmn.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 01 Mar 2010, 09:24
There ya go!
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 09:26
See also: My dad lives in the middle of nowhere and drums. I could keep it at his place, crank that bitch, and jam out on some Grand Funk Railroad covers with him.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 11:12
Plus it has a bass channel.

I will. I just need to get my tax returns, yknow..so I HAVE $200 in disposable income.

And then someday get a 2x12 cab.

edit: This, btw, is what we're talking about.

(http://www.brettallenstudiorental.com/Amps/121601pics/MusicManHD120_16.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2010, 16:18
Shitting fuck, Shane, if I knew the guy I'd ask him to hold it aside for me, it won't be too long before I am out of debt and I could afford it

Also now that I've seen pics my "OH MY GOD DO IT" from our conversation earlier still stands

Edit: Hey guys I wrote a song on the guitar (http://www.box.net/shared/p6cfv53nn1) and I kinda like it 'cept I'm playing sloppy as everliving shit but you know whatever
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Mar 2010, 09:01
That's not the exact one, Sam. Same model, but the corners on my friends' are just a little rustier. Otherwise it's in great shape.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Mar 2010, 04:30
(http://.)
A guitar that is also an organ
http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/sold/godwin2.htm
Needs obligatory WANGCASTER IMG.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Mar 2010, 12:34
I just realized something very important about that head. Ted Motherfucking Leo plays a Music Man amp. Do I want to sound like Ted Motherfucking Leo?


obviously very yes.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Mar 2010, 00:12
Guys I wanted to play my guitar through the church's ooooooold motherfuckin' Leslie (you motherfuckin' heard me they have got a VINTAGE MOTHERFUCK LESLIE) but I didn't get to because they didn't know how any of that stuff was connected to the organ, I was so bummedddddd

I mean seriously it can't be that hard, just plug your shit in with a 1/4" from your line out and you are good to rock some "Little Wing" like it ain't even a fuckin' thing, that is exactly what I was aiming at

I'm going to figure that motherfucker out tomorrow morning before rehearsal even starts
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Post by: edwinalink on 06 Mar 2010, 04:02
how bad of an Idea is it to buy this guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R1puHTwFoU

the Schecter C-7 Blackjack ATX

should beginner's start with a guitar like that?

I still haven't replaced my POS B.C.Rich...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 06 Mar 2010, 04:13
Not a big schecter fan myself, but i don't see why not. seven-strings are fun! TOM style bridge is also a plus, but i've never used blackouts myself so I don't have a clue how they sound, apart from heavy.

edit: It depends on what you want to play i guess, but it seems pretty good for metal.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Mar 2010, 07:26
I know a guy who plays a 6 string blackjack. It feels like it's built pretty well, but I really hate the tone he gets out of it.
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Post by: glyphic on 08 Mar 2010, 10:11
Might not be the guitar, though. Your friend may just like shitty tone.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Mar 2010, 10:49
I don't think i've ever played a guitar without at least getting some decent tone out of it*. I'd say you have a faulty friend there, rather than guitar.

*and i've played fucking east-german guitars.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Mar 2010, 11:11
Were they made of cotton, like Trabants?
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Mar 2010, 14:49
I don't think i've ever played a guitar without at least getting some decent tone out of it*. I'd say you have a faulty friend there, rather than guitar.

*and i've played fucking east-german guitars.

He does play it out of a digital marshall amp through a dimebag darryl signature distortion, so that may have something to do with it too. It's a decent metal tone but I like a little more versatility out of my guit-fiddles.
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Mar 2010, 18:21
You could play a Firebird V through a Marshall MG and it would still sound like shit, and that's not even taking into account the dimebag pedal.
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Mar 2010, 00:47
My problem is I dont know what I want. and I've been guitar shopping for nearly a year.

I'm thinking that 7-string may be a little stupid for me at the moment...

but Schecter seems to be one of the few companies to make Lefties for damn near everything in their line up. and not upcharge for them....

urgh...
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Post by: Bearer on 09 Mar 2010, 05:15
This:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0991.jpg)
into one of these:
(http://www.j-guitar.com/sp/sea/data/1145/r/0312_1.jpg)
(modded with a celestion g10s-50 10" speaker replacement)

This is win, this amp sometimes makes this guitar sound better than my Fender Twin Reverb.  WHAAA?!
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Post by: glyphic on 09 Mar 2010, 10:41
Ever since you first posted a picture of that guitar, I've been lusting after it. The want is strong with this one.
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Mar 2010, 10:53
You could play a Firebird V through a Marshall MG and it would still sound like shit, and that's not even taking into account the dimebag pedal.

urg, I can never get enough top-end out of my MG15CDR. I do love that it has spring reverb though. My next amp is going to be a Vox of some sort.
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Post by: Lummer on 09 Mar 2010, 15:45
My problem is I dont know what I want. and I've been guitar shopping for nearly a year.

I'm thinking that 7-string may be a little stupid for me at the moment...

but Schecter seems to be one of the few companies to make Lefties for damn near everything in their line up. and not upcharge for them....

urgh...

Well, if you feel like it, go for the 7!
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Mar 2010, 15:54
I've had an insane desire for a flying V here lately.
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Post by: Patrick on 09 Mar 2010, 17:56
I'm thinking of going back up to Richmond's Guitar Center, where I recently played an ash Tele through a Hot Rod DeVille. I am thinking of trading my Jag for the combination of those two.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Mar 2010, 05:32
I've had an insane desire for a flying V here lately.

It would go well with your retroey look.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Mar 2010, 06:46
The twenty minutes that I had a Hot Rod Deville, I loved it. The sound was fat and awesome.

Plus, it has switches for GAIN and MORE GAIN
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Post by: imapiratearg on 10 Mar 2010, 08:49
The two years I've had my Hot Rod Deville, I've loved the shit out of it.

But I wouldn't trade a Jag for it.  I'd also get the Blues Deville, with the upgraded speakers.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Mar 2010, 09:07
I detailed it further a long time ago, but UPS destroyed my Hot Rod.

Luckily, I found a sweet deal on a Sovtek Mig-50 with an Ampeg V-4 4x12 cab. I love it. So much bottom end, but the highs are clear as a bell.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 10 Mar 2010, 09:24
If I lived in the country I would so buy a Mig-50 or Mig-100. They are basically my dream amp.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Mar 2010, 12:13
Which country? Russia?
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Post by: Melodic on 10 Mar 2010, 17:18
In Soviet Russia, amp buys you!
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Mar 2010, 16:42
ok guitar bitches. For my choices of backline at the National Underground in the NEW York (not the old one) I have:
Fender Deluxe & Peavey Delta Blues
Thoughts?
Well muthafuckaz we are playing there in March and May, I guess I could try one, and then the other the next time.

Of course I'm playing a Parker so I could fucking play both (stereo) with my little ground lifty box.

Look out for my pen15. It is almost as big as my ego. Almost.
/drinking
 
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Mar 2010, 19:32
If I lived in the country I would so buy a Mig-50 or Mig-100. They are basically my dream amp.

I'd buy a MiG 21

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6581/mig2102.jpg)
The two years I've had my Hot Rod Deville, I've loved the shit out of it.

But I wouldn't trade a Jag for it.  I'd also get the Blues Deville, with the upgraded speakers.

A Jag and an ash Tele though? That's what I wanna trade for.
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Mar 2010, 06:41
Hey guys. I fell in love with the Deluxe Nashville Telecaster. I've been going to a local music shop every week for two months and playing it. Every time I go, I like it more.

Should I sell my Schecter Ultra III and get one?
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 12 Mar 2010, 06:48
Yes. A thousand times yes.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Mar 2010, 08:34
Hahaha oh man do you really even have to ask
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Mar 2010, 08:47
Which begs the next question; anyone want to buy a used Schecter Ultra III? I'll give you a good deal!
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Mar 2010, 14:52
Guys (I apologize for my last nights' drunken enthusiastic outburst).
http://www.sonuus.com/products_g2m.html

$100 universal Guitar midi cupcake. (Mono, but still). Oh it's also a tuner.
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Mar 2010, 15:27
That's pretty dope. I kind of hate combination-tuner products, though. My first amp had a built-in tuner and it worked like shit.
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Mar 2010, 17:55
agreed. I have an RP100 that the tuner worked on for about 20 minutes. Wife uses the built in drum thing to play scales with. Otherwise, useless.
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Mar 2010, 10:14
ok guitar bitches. For my choices of backline at the National Underground in the NEW York (not the old one) I have:
Fender Deluxe & Peavey Delta Blues
Thoughts?
Well muthafuckaz we are playing there in March and May, I guess I could try one, and then the other the next time.

Of course I'm playing a Parker so I could fucking play both (stereo) with my little ground lifty box.

Look out for my pen15. It is almost as big as my ego. Almost.
/drinking
 

Shoot me an inbox message with the dates and locations of the shows. I'll come and see ya!
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Mar 2010, 16:00
Hey guitar thread, once I get this new job, I'm gonna save up and get a new geetar. I have even made a shortlist!

I am either getting a Squier Classic Vibe Custom Tele (which I will upgrade with AVRI '62 Tele pickups), or one of those fantastic new Epi Wilshires in aged red. Anyone have experience with the latter?
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Mar 2010, 05:31
Shoot me an inbox message with the dates and locations of the shows. I'll come and see ya!
PM'd ya and sent you email from illicitizen at gmail. Hope you can make it.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Mar 2010, 12:47
I found a fucking boss rundown of Mogwai's live setup. I can't blieve Stuart gets that tone out of a Dano pedal.
http://funksheet.blogspot.com/2010/02/mogwai-interviewgear-walkthrough.html
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Mar 2010, 13:12
Between this interview and his Twitter account, Stuart sounds like a bloody idiot.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Mar 2010, 14:53
A bloody idiot with great tone though.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2010, 15:52
So I just bought a Squire Bullet for twenty-five bucks, and taking a lead from Patrick I intend to gut the internals, buy decent pickups, and then abuse and mutilate it until it is barely capable of thought.
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Mar 2010, 20:18
I just looked up how much the blue Rickenbacker 4003 from FLCL would cost if i wanted it...

a real vintage one, is harder to find than the Ark of the Covenant...

but for an exact replica, from Rickenbacker's custom shop would be over 3 grand and take over 3 years to get...

yeah, don't think I'll be getting that anytime soon...

It's not like I'm an Otaku /Anime nut, I don't really care... its just... THAT THING IS SO DAMN SEXY.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2010, 21:07
DANG MAN YEAH THAT GUITAR

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/03/500x_spvw_teaser1sht_mar17_3.jpg)


not like i'm an otaku or anything tho
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Post by: IronOxide on 19 Mar 2010, 21:09
Man guys, I've been looking for an original sunburst LP like Elsa Bloodstone uses in nextwave that would be SICK.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/ironoxide887/NextWave01p16.jpg)

Like a real vintage original, it would be ill

Not that I'm an Otaku or anything
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Post by: IronOxide on 19 Mar 2010, 21:19
Hey guys, do you know where I could find Boy Blue's horn from Fables? I think that it would be awesome.

A real vintage one with real magic to make it sound extra awesome.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/ironoxide887/Fables008-20.jpg)

Not that I'm an Otaku or anything
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2010, 21:21
dang dude a real vintage horn like that probably be like three grand damn
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Mar 2010, 21:26
I like how there is More Troll in the average QC Forum Goer than there is in their Troll's...

and "Not Like I'm an Otaku Or anything" just became my Sig, YOUCANTHAVEITITSMINEBITCHES...

and I fuckin want that ricky.
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Post by: Chad K. on 20 Mar 2010, 19:20
Provided all goes well, I should be purchasing one of these tomorrow off of CL-

http://www.hagstromguitars.com/Viking.html

I love Vikings.  The dark tone, the thin neck, the style.  One of the coolest 335 style guitars IMO.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Mar 2010, 05:41
Wow Chad that looks purrrrty.
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Post by: Chad K. on 22 Mar 2010, 07:00
Thanks, Doombilly. Guitar was bought without a hitch and it's mint.  The woman who bought it just didn't really like playing semi-hollows.  I'm totally in love with it. 

A couple things I didn't expect- it doesn't have the same neck-dive issues I have with my Sheraton.  I had assumed with that headstock it would be constantly heading for the floor.  Also, the neck is really thin due to the "H" style truss rod.  It's not quite ibanez thin, but it's thinner than anything fender or gibson has on the market.  And yet, they went with jumbo fretwire.  It took a couple of hours of playing to get used to them, but after that, the frets made it a lot easier to find where I was without looking.

The only dissappointment, oddly, was the case.  Here's a picture of soe of them - http://www.hagstromguitars.com.au/775.0.html .  Though it says on the site that they are "vintage tan tolex," I for some reason took that to mean tweed.  It's actually tolex with an extremely poor photo of tweed over it, essentially faux tweed.  Plus, it's thin for a hardcase.  And, the handle is "pleather," not leather.  GC cranks out a tweed case through TKL for less than $100, I wonder why Hagstrom can't figure it out.  And I don't know if another case would fit thsi guitar, because it's a little oddly shaped. 

Ah well, all in all very happy.  If anyone has been wondering about their line, I'd say look into it.  They are really great guitars for the money.
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Mar 2010, 08:13
If I can sell the tele-parts caster I put together, I'm definitely getting one of these badass things (http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvqutopseho.html) and modding the shit out of it.  There's also the model with the humbuckers too.
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Post by: Chad K. on 22 Mar 2010, 08:55
Bearer- don't forgot to check their clearance section- http://store.guitarfetish.com/spclblblsa.html  From what I hear, their blems are pretty minimal.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Mar 2010, 16:10
Bearer I want one of these:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2098_14212811

Fucking Orange Guitar!

But I might be losing my job and living in an F250 down by the river. So maybe I should stock up on hobo food instead.
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Post by: glyphic on 23 Mar 2010, 13:27
Great guitar ad. Plus, I can't tell if the picture is really bad or if the cutaway really goes past the neck under the strings.


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1655162443.html
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Post by: Christophe on 23 Mar 2010, 13:29
Quote
plays like a wicked ass demon from hell on steriods that just got punched in the throat for fucking some dudes girlfriend in the ass.youll never find any guitar like it and will never want to let it go.it has just about ruint my life and killed me once or twice.it will be the worst fucking mistake of your life to buy this piece of shit but youll never want to put it down either.it wont even let me take a good picture so i can sell it.please dont let me die and buy this beast fuck thing right now.

umm
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Post by: Ballard on 23 Mar 2010, 13:39
Great guitar ad. Plus, I can't tell if the picture is really bad or if the cutaway really goes past the neck under the strings.


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1655162443.html

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5964/89246d1239033397img2583.jpg)

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Post by: valley_parade on 23 Mar 2010, 13:51
Ahhh, an Alvarez Scoop.

There's a bit about those in a book I have. The superdeep-ass carve was originally a mistake, but the carver told his boss it was to enhance sustain (how would that even work?) Then they sold them.
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Post by: Chad K. on 23 Mar 2010, 22:43
Actually the Dana scoop was created by Dana Sutcliffe, an independent who was contracted by Alvarez in the '80s to help compete with shredder brands like Kramer and Jackson.   Alvarez was originally Westone, which was originally Electra.  He not only purposely made that design, but he actually patented it.  He's also the "genius" behind the Alvarez Dana bass with a neck join that's offcenter of the body.  UGLY.

By the way, those Electras are killer guitars if you find one.  I had a LP copy that I loved.  They are one of the lesser know matsumoku brands, which is the same plant that made Univox, Aria and a ton of other brands. 
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 04:53
Explain the THREE PART HUMBUCKER.

EXPLAIN THAT, JEEZ.
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Post by: Chad K. on 24 Mar 2010, 09:46
Geez, Ballard.  I don't see what the big deal is- http://www.wolfgangguitars.com/Nigel%20-%20full.jpg
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Post by: glyphic on 24 Mar 2010, 12:15
That guitar has an exhaust system.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 16:00
I was being facetious.

The point: it's stupid
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 16:02
You realize that you just defended this guy (http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanilla-ice.jpg) by bringing up this guy (http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/images/dennis-rodman-hair.jpg)?
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Post by: Chad K. on 24 Mar 2010, 17:26
I was being facetious.

The point: it's stupid

You realize that you just defended this guy (http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanilla-ice.jpg) by bringing up this guy (http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/images/dennis-rodman-hair.jpg)?

It might not have been clear, but my post was meant to be sarcastic.

That said, that's a great analogy.  Rodman is ridiculous and bombastic in a knowing, tongue-in-cheek way ala the Tufnel guitar.  The Alvarez, like Vanilla Ice's career, was created without an appreciation for the inherent irony.  
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Post by: Christophe on 24 Mar 2010, 18:23
So in my spare time today I made this little handy Volume pot box out of a 500k pot from a disused Squier Strat and a Carvin AB box I didn't really have any use for as an AB box. The schematic looks something like so:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/volumepotboxschematic.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/?action=view&current=volumepotboxschematic.png)

It's pretty handy, and I only really have one gripe--putting the volume down all the way kills the sound when the pot is bypassed. Does that have to do with the fact that I'm only using an SPST (because that was the one that came with the old AB box) or that it's a 500k pot (my guitar has single coils)?
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 21:02
Vanilla Ice's career created without an appreciation for the inherent irony.  

I dunno if I'd go that far..
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Mar 2010, 04:24
I think my Black Widow is a Matsumoku as well. I can't remember because of well old age makes me hey look a bunny outside my window.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Mar 2010, 06:55
You realize that you just defended this guy (http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanilla-ice.jpg) by bringing up this guy (http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/images/dennis-rodman-hair.jpg)?

Dennis Rodman had a portrait of Bert from Sesame St dyed in the back of his hair, all of his sins are forgiven
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Post by: imapiratearg on 25 Mar 2010, 08:29
Okay I posted this in the wrong thread last night on accident, so I'm remedying that mistake right here:

Quote
So, uh guys.  I'm looking into investing in a PA setup this summer to kick-start actually getting a band together or just make my house more awesome to be at because at least I'll be able to have my friends' bands come play at my house.  I don't know what I'll need other than some kind of power amp, a couple of speakers and some cables.  I'm not worried about micing amps or drums, I just want to amp up some vocals in there.  Is there anything I'm forgetting?
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 26 Mar 2010, 19:10
You'll probably want a mixer too. Something with at least parametric EQ to be able to have some control of the sound coming out of your speakers.
There's actually a couple amplified mixers that aren't too shabby on this side of the pond, so perhaps you can find some cool stuff there.

Keep in mind that a PA that can overpower a loud drummer is pretty expensive. Ideally, even for a small bar, you'd want something in the thousands of Watts.
I'd recommend at the very least something with 200 Watts so you can hear a guy singing over the drums (as opposed to hear screaming).

That is, if you play with loud drummers (I sure have.). The guy I've been playing with for the past couple of years plays so low I can actually hear myself talk during rehearsals. Refreshing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Mar 2010, 19:48
They are one of the lesser know matsumoku brands, which is the same plant that made Univox, Aria and a ton of other brands. 

Yeah, my Aria Diamond was kinda rad. Too bad the neck joint was a little skeevy.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/16903675-089352bdc4bc84fd67fcf12999.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Mar 2010, 21:28
double post as not to post two pics in one post..but....

EPIPHOOOOOONE,

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/7/7/3/686773.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 06:29
Guys, I've bought a BC Rich Ironbird, and I fucking love it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2010, 06:46
We'll kinda miss you here at the guitar thread, but you did buy a BC Rich on your own accord.

It's nobody's fault but your own.
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 07:10
I'm in a death metal band, shouldn't that give me clearance?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Mar 2010, 07:59
Well no cos you could've bought an ESP or an Ibanez or a fuckin' Jackson Dinky or something
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 08:27
But that's what everyone else is doing these days!

Besides, everyone and their mom was using BC Rich in the golden days of death metal (mid-90s), so I just figured I had to go get a mid 90's BC Rich. And so I did!
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2010, 09:04
There's a reason they're doing it, and a reason people in the 90s bought BC Riches:

Everyone in the 90s had horrid taste in everything.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Mar 2010, 11:49
I dunno, 70's bc riches are pretty cool. They probably sucked by the nineties though. So yeah, How does it play/sound/feel?
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 12:15
There's a reason they're doing it, and a reason people in the 90s bought BC Riches:

Everyone in the 90s had horrid taste in everything.

Except the extreme metal underground. Those were the glory days!

I dunno, 70's bc riches are pretty cool. They probably sucked by the nineties though. So yeah, How does it play/sound/feel?

I put some strings on it, that are a tiny bit too thick for it to be like super-shreddy, but it plays and feels really, really nice. I had to do a lot of work on it though. Frets were green with corrosion, so I did a ghetto fret polish and got them shiny again. Setup was, as expected with a Floyd, a bit of a bitch, but now it is truly awesome! The electronics just need that last bit of love (new volume pot and output jack) and then it's all set to be my new main axe.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Mar 2010, 13:21
Pics?
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2010, 13:24
It's pointy and shaped like death.
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Post by: Spluff on 28 Mar 2010, 17:12
The higher end BC Riches are Good Guitars.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Mar 2010, 05:07
It's pointy and shaped like death.

Oh God they look like this

(http://www.bcrich.com/images/sm_ironbird_limited.jpg)

Laugh/cry
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Mar 2010, 05:09
Hey Lummer for all yr talk about 90s underground death metal it seems like the Ironbird was mostly favoured by leathery transvestites

(http://www.sol.co.uk/r/ronz/images/kiss/ironbird.gif)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Mar 2010, 07:35
\m/?
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Mar 2010, 20:56
"lol ur saying thom yorke used les pauls which justifies them but so did anal cunt lol"
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Mar 2010, 20:59
no?
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Post by: Christophe on 29 Mar 2010, 22:11
"lol ur saying thom yorke used les pauls which justifies them but so did anal cunt lol"
Anal Cunt--Guitarists Who Use BC Riches are Gay
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 29 Mar 2010, 22:30
"lol ur saying thom yorke used les pauls which justifies them but so did anal cunt lol"
Thom Yorke used Les Pauls?
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Post by: Christophe on 29 Mar 2010, 22:31
Anal Cunt--Body By Peavey
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Mar 2010, 23:33
Someone in a shitty band playing a questionable guitar is not enough to warrant discrediting that guitar permanently.

I hate the low-end crap that B.C. Rich shits out into Guitar Centers nationwide but it's undeniable that their high-end models are well-built, good sounding (if questionably spiky) guitars.
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Mar 2010, 23:55
I think mine is actually hella low-end, but for some reason that fucker just sounds right. The body looks a bit like it's made of plywood, but the neck is really, really nice and for some reason it sounds every inch the satanic death machine. I guess I just got lucky, because I paid more or less jack shit for it.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Mar 2010, 00:35
Honestly I just needed an excuse to post that picture because sweet fucking christ is Paul Stanley a horrifying looking motherfucker.

Like honestly I don't even care that much about the guitar so much as I care about how ugly Paul Stanley is
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2010, 02:51
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 30 Mar 2010, 03:28
It has the spirit of Chuck Shuldiner in it, he couldn't find a Stealth or a Mockingbird. Enshrine it among skulls, blown-out amps, and broken guitar strings, remove it only to rock the fuck out.
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2010, 04:01
I sure hope you're right.

Eitherway, this fucker is probably gonna be my new main guitar, unless I snag a USA BC Rich or something.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 30 Mar 2010, 04:32
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Unless... there is a ton of hype surrounding the guitar industry that makes people think a guitar has to be made out of 1000 year old tee pee frames cut from the center of now extinct species of trees and hand assembled by blue eyed, English speaking, virgin dwarfs to get great tone.


On a slightly less sarcastic note... The original Dano's were made from plywood.  Poplar at that (hardly considered a tone wood) if my memory serves correctly.  Depending on your definition of "plywood" I could point out a whole lot of other instruments that are too.  Not much is actually a solid slab of wood, anywhere.  And usually for good reason.   Also, ever since Chip Todd and Harland Peavey brought the concept of CNC machines into instrument making, the playing field has been somewhat leveled on what we would define as 'quality craftsmanship' in terms of your neck.  No longer do you need a skilled luthier/woodworker with spokeshaves to carve a great neck.  A CAD program and a CNC machine will get you any profile that you want and make it flawless.   Arguably the nicest guitar I own in terms of quality, craftsmanship, and overall fantastic everything is a Korean made instrument that you can pick up brand new for five or six hundred bucks.  I actually think it's considerably better than my PRS.

tl,dr; If you like how it plays, play it.  If you're not in the vintage/re-seller market names on headstocks and country of origin are largely irrelevant for anything made in the last 20ish years.
 
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2010, 04:36
My point exactly. I'm not even sure if I want to upgrade the pickups. They sound perfectly fine for what I'm going for. I am sort of considering slapping a newer, higher-quality floyd on it.
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Post by: edwinalink on 30 Mar 2010, 11:31
Whats scary is how well a Warlock actually sits on most peoples hands. its a meaty guitar, but it's actually got a useable body.

it still sucks and I want to kill it.... but... you'd think a body that stupid would be miserable. and it isn't!
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Mar 2010, 16:04
Yeah my parker body is one piece of mahogany, but that is about the least interesting feature. I agree if it does well by you then good-o. Fuck all that other dumb shit.

I would like to take this moment to commend SKB cases. My dumb ass slid my vintage F-250 seat back into one of the latches on my wife's bass case. I sent them an email and they sent me two latches, plenty of screws extra keys (TSA002). FREE. Not since Sperzel sent me free hardware for a part I lost on a tuner have I gotten that kind of customer service.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Apr 2010, 18:15
If only bc rich could do more of this:

http://rebelmusic.no/showExtraImages.do?articleId=1434139

The finish is eerily similar to my my own ltd, but it's all good
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Apr 2010, 05:58
Gold hardware = UN has designated this as a aesthetic war crime.
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Apr 2010, 10:09
my dano's a solid-body but it sounds gorgeous. fuck craftsmanship!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2010, 10:37
Well fuck me... I didn't know Danelectro even made guitars out of real wood.   Plywood, masonite, formica, sure.   But actual slabs of wood?  Learn something new everyday.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2010, 13:13
So I just came back from the store where I picked up for my son a Jackson Randy Rhoades "V" for his ninth birthday.

Now I have to hide it for a week and a half and not play it.  :(
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Apr 2010, 16:01
Hey, speaking of my Dano, I just swapped out my .10-.46s for some .13-.56 flat-wound chrome beauties. Holy shit I love this guitar.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 02 Apr 2010, 18:20
I need to get some 13s on my Epi. Those should be good for tuning down as far as drop-b, right?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Apr 2010, 18:21
So I just came back from the store where I picked up for my son a Jackson Randy Rhoades "V" for his ninth birthday.

Now I have to hide it for a week and a half and not play it.  :(

you are the best father
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Post by: sean on 02 Apr 2010, 18:37
he is only the best father if he proceeds to teach his son minor threat songs.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2010, 18:43
The thing about Minor Threat songs is that to play them right you have to play real-for-real barre chords.  I don't know if his hands are big enough on a full scale instrument.  He's been playing a little kids guitar for the last three years.   

Does it count that I've watched my daughter gig while she was wearing a Minor Threat shirt?  And that I got her into them?
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Post by: sean on 03 Apr 2010, 11:15
the fact that you realize yr sons hands are not big enough to play minor threat songs makes you the best father.
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Post by: Melodic on 03 Apr 2010, 11:48
shoulda passed on bigger genes
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Post by: The Duke on 03 Apr 2010, 12:22
Gold hardware = UN has designated this as a aesthetic war crime.

Really?  I think it looks cool on some guitars.
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Post by: Radical AC on 03 Apr 2010, 19:27
I agree.  Someday I would like a White Falcon.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 03 Apr 2010, 20:54
Guys, I made eight dollars busking downtown today!  Fuck yeah, go me!

('Cause it was two more dollars than we needed to buy weed and we did it in an hour and a half!)
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Apr 2010, 09:32
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Because Korea actually makes good guitars.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Apr 2010, 10:05
Korea is the new Japan, so we can only hope China will become the new Korea. Chinese guitars will probably get a massive price-increase though.
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Post by: Lummer on 05 Apr 2010, 04:23
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Because Korea actually makes good guitars.

MAKES, nowadays, yes. But not in the early 90s. Not out of plywood.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Apr 2010, 04:34
So I've got a little extra money right now and the urge to help the economy by indulging my G.A.S.  (I tell myself it's the right thing to do).

What to buy?  I've been thinking about getting something totally shredtastic and metal-as-fuck as my collection tends to lean towards more traditional guitars, but I've also thought about getting  a Dan Armstrong or a Gretsch Duo-Jet.

On the other hand, though my house looks like a guitar graveyard already, an area that I am sorely lacking is amplification.  Due to a sell-off years ago, all I really play through is a little Vox combo amp, which is wholly inadequate for gigging.  Perhaps it's time for a head and a half cab again and that might motivate me to play for someone other than my dogs.

I'm open to suggestions.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 08 Apr 2010, 06:34
Buy the biggest box you can find that says "orange" on it.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Apr 2010, 07:17
I must confess... I was looking at the Orange website this morning.  It's a definite thought.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2010, 10:16
ORANGE!
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Apr 2010, 15:35
Buy the biggest box you can find that says "orange" on it.
obey
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Post by: Rizzo on 08 Apr 2010, 18:18
Or get a Tiny Terror. I've heard nothing bad about them. Then all you need is a decent cab.
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Post by: Bearer on 08 Apr 2010, 20:43
Or a Vox Night Train.  I have heard equally no bad things about them.
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Post by: glyphic on 09 Apr 2010, 06:33
You should get a Peavey. They name their speakers things like "Black Widow." How could you go wrong?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 09 Apr 2010, 06:48
I was kinda hoping to give  Bolt  (http://boltamps.com/pages/video.html) amps a try, but after a (very) little research they don't seem to be ready for the general public yet.     Too bad for them.
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Post by: Bearer on 09 Apr 2010, 07:35
http://www.jcacircuits.com/ (http://www.jcacircuits.com/)

I know the guy who makes these.  He's a real mad scientist, and absolutely knows his stuff.  I can't even begin to describe how perfect his amps are.  If you can (and it's definitely a real stretch cause I think he makes them to order), definitely try out his golden ratio.  Fucking mind-blowing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Apr 2010, 14:48
I was kinda hoping to give  Bolt  (http://boltamps.com/pages/video.html) amps a try, but after a (very) little research they don't seem to be ready for the general public yet.     Too bad for them.

Or yknow...get a used Sunn.
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Apr 2010, 22:31
Works for those Sunn 0))) fellows.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Apr 2010, 23:13
Sunn should really look into giving away a black hooded cloak with every half-stack they sell. Instant sales boom!

(http://www.purepoponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sun.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Apr 2010, 23:47
They haven't actually made Sunn amps since Fender bought them out in the 90s. =/
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Apr 2010, 23:57
Is there an up to date tally of how many brands Fender has bought out and discontinued?
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Apr 2010, 00:06
There was, but fender bought the website and stopped maintaining it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2010, 00:28
Is there an up to date tally of how many brands Fender has bought out and discontinued?

Are we counting how they moved Guild's electric line first to Dearmond, then Squier, and then discontinued it?
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Apr 2010, 01:59
Huh, I always thought that it was the other way around.

Was the Starfire was a Guild model turned DeArmond or a DeArmond model turned Guild?
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2010, 05:20
The Starfire was Guild first. Guild reissued them I think riiiiight after Fender bought them, and Dearmond was used as a budget line for Guild for a few years.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Apr 2010, 09:21
That's dumb. I've seen and played quite a few DeArmonds and they're really fucking solid guitars. Beautiful, too.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2010, 13:52
Yeah, everything I've heard about the Dearmond models was extremely positive.

I played that Ibanez AMF73 (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/1/0/644810.jpg) today through a Vox AC4TV.

I need both of those. It sounded perfect together. And the ceramic humbuckers weren't as overly powerful as I'd imagined.
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Post by: Christophe on 10 Apr 2010, 15:11
Hey guys I got a Behringer Digital Delay pedals

TL;DR I came buckets
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 10 Apr 2010, 15:43
Alright, so the results of days of shopping:

I went to Guitar Center as well as two locally owned music stores and played about 15 different heads through about ten different cabs.   Bar none my absolute favorite was the Egnater Tourmaster 4100 head through an Egnater 4x12 cabinet.   I probably would have bought this rig exactly except that about halfway through my shopping I decided to buy my kid a Fender American Deluxe Jazz Bass. And I just bought another one of my kids a Jackson for his birthday that I haven't even given him yet.  Consequently, I decided that if I could find something I was happy with that was cheaper, I was going to go with that.

 Tried both the Orange  tiny terror and the Vox heads.   Both awesome, but I really wanted something bigger.  I also wanted to have matched head and speaker and couldn't do that locally.   I tried a couple of solid states and hybrids like the new Line 6 head with all the UV lights, but really felt like I wanted  pure tubes.  I've already got a modeling amp, I've got a digitech modeling station, I even have a VG strat for fuck sake, so I wanted to go natural.  Tried a couple of Marshall configurations.  Tried a Crate Blue Voodoo and gave that one some serious consideration.  Basically I plugged into everything I could.  Even took a couple of my own guitars in for the 'final showdown.'

Given my odd predilection towards certain guitar brands, it probably isn't too surprising that I did end up going with a Peavey configuration.  No vypyr or anything silly, just a very basic ValveKing VK100 and 4x12 cab.  It really did end up being my second favorite and the fact that the two together was pretty cheap turned out to not be a bad thing either.   A nice clean channel that I can put a little dirt into if I want, and a lead channel that gives me all the gain that I want.   Nice and versatile, good sound, loud as a freight train.  I'm pretty happy.

TL,DR; Fender American Deluxe Jazz Bass and a Peavey VK100 and 4x12 cab.
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Apr 2010, 18:03
Or get a Tiny Terror. I've heard nothing bad about them. Then all you need is a decent cab.
heh, remember when I got my Tiny Terror and QC board helped me choose between open and closed back Avatar cabinets. <sigh> good times.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Apr 2010, 17:25
Also Guitar Thread. Um, don't mind my BONER.
http://www.kauerguitars.com/instruments/daylighter/daylighter-express
Unless, you are into that kind of thing.
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Post by: Tehz on 18 Apr 2010, 12:45
My lord that's fucking gorgeous. Sounds pretty nice, too.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Apr 2010, 14:54
This, on the other hand:
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/mortenpmb/DSC01438.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Apr 2010, 17:59
I'd have one in the Korina (V that is. Or one of them Kauer Daylighter Expresses, or both. Methinks BOTH. Yes)
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 18 Apr 2010, 18:54
I have something real similar to the white Les Paul JR in the background on the floor, only mine is a doublecut.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Apr 2010, 02:52
So I guess I am the only one who thinks a carved-top Jazzmaster clone is A Mistake
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Apr 2010, 21:18
A+++ would jizz on that bass
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Apr 2010, 05:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6r2-vkQT7E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6r2-vkQT7E)

The 1959 Les Paul Replica build by preeb over at TDPRI (http://www.tdpri.com) is finished!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Apr 2010, 07:41
Ah man that build was great. I've been following it closely since it started
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Post by: doombilly on 01 May 2010, 05:31
Sold my mostly working Fender Twin Reverb last night for $375. Woo. Needed cash. Went to a good home. Only 1000 amps left in the tuba nook. :)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 May 2010, 08:27
I went online yesterday to find some parts to fix the old P-bass and ended up buying two more guitars.    Not quite sure how to tell the wife.
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Post by: doombilly on 02 May 2010, 09:20
haha, my wife had me at Guitar Center after closing last night, trading two old cabinets for the last Ampeg 8x10 they had.
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Post by: Lummer on 03 May 2010, 02:04
I recently traded in my Flying V, for a pretty sweet BC Rich gunslinger. Pics will follow soon.
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Post by: doombilly on 03 May 2010, 13:25
I'ma have a Flying V one day. Just because...funny shaped guitars. What's not to like?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/S9yU1QjNVJI/AAAAAAAAQ9M/FTYwe8bKmog/s400/DSCF1917-15.jpg)

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Post by: Ballard on 04 May 2010, 11:33
Sold my mostly working Fender Twin Reverb last night for $375. Woo. Needed cash. Went to a good home. Only 1000 amps left in the tuba nook. :)

What the hell ass why?
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 May 2010, 07:21
My tax return just came in. Do I mash buy on that Mosrite fuzz clone I've been gassing for?
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Post by: doombilly on 08 May 2010, 07:50
Sold my mostly working Fender Twin Reverb last night for $375. Woo. Needed cash. Went to a good home. Only 1000 amps left in the tuba nook. :)

What the hell ass why?
1) Needed money.
2) It didn't work completely.
3) I have many amps.
4) I've not played it in years.
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Post by: Ballard on 08 May 2010, 10:20
It's a $1400 amp you monkey-brained fool.

I'd have bought it from you for more than that, shit.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 May 2010, 06:37
I was not having any messing around with shipping etc... Also I paid very little for it. I know it was a low price to pay. But I never have had luck selling anything for what approaches real value. 
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 May 2010, 13:54
So guitar-thread, do any of you have any experience with the rg-7321? I have the chance to get one cheaply and i was wondering if it is okay for the price.
I've been gassing for a cheap 7 for a while.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 May 2010, 16:37
Paging Lummer to this thread.

Lummer. To this thread.
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Post by: Lummer on 11 May 2010, 00:07
So guitar-thread, do any of you have any experience with the rg-7321? I have the chance to get one cheaply and i was wondering if it is okay for the price.
I've been gassing for a cheap 7 for a while.

I've had two of them over the years, and I still have my second one. It's a really good basic guitar, if you get a decent specimen. I've heard of some pretty terrible turkeys among them, but these days it's fine. If you can snag one of the older MIK ones, you're good.

A good trick with them is, to sand the back of the neck lightly with the rough side of a kitchen sponge. That will give you something closer to the feel of a prestige neck.

I say go for it! If it's cheap, you can also factor in a pickup change.
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Post by: glyphic on 11 May 2010, 06:23
Local shop has one of these:
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sjm75tstopna1.jpg)

Priced at $175. It includes a tweed hardshell. It took so much effort not to buy it.

Determining factors were the fact that it is an SX guitar and has P-90 clones that sound dark. That body shape turns me on, though.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 11 May 2010, 06:47
So guitar-thread, do any of you have any experience with the rg-7321? I have the chance to get one cheaply and i was wondering if it is okay for the price.
I've been gassing for a cheap 7 for a while.

I've had two of them over the years, and I still have my second one. It's a really good basic guitar, if you get a decent specimen. I've heard of some pretty terrible turkeys among them, but these days it's fine. If you can snag one of the older MIK ones, you're good.

A good trick with them is, to sand the back of the neck lightly with the rough side of a kitchen sponge. That will give you something closer to the feel of a prestige neck.

I say go for it! If it's cheap, you can also factor in a pickup change.

I can get one with an emg at the bridge for 2000 kroner. That's like 120$ right? I've got the stock emgs in my EC and I really do like them. Is 120$ a good deal?

Glyphic, i've always loved those SX jazzbastards. They're like insanely cheap too. How did the neck feel?
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Post by: glyphic on 11 May 2010, 07:13
It felt fine. Nothing special.

I guess it felt exactly how a $175 guitar's neck should.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 11 May 2010, 19:25
Local shop has one of these:
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sjm75tstopna1.jpg)

Priced at $175. It includes a tweed hardshell. It took so much effort not to buy it.

Determining factors were the fact that it is an SX guitar and has P-90 clones that sound dark. That body shape turns me on, though.
The other guitarist in my band has that in light blue, the pickups squeal like a motherfucker but it sounds great in the middle position.
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Post by: sean on 11 May 2010, 19:47
swap the pickups out?
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Post by: Ballard on 11 May 2010, 22:55
swap the pots out and re-wire everything

FYP
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2010, 00:23
So last summer some kids decided by guitar looked like good target practice and broke a few tuning keys off.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Grover-Trophy-102-Rotomatics-3PerSide-Guitar-Tuning-Keys?sku=361000

These seem like the best replacements imo but what do y'all think?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 May 2010, 03:21
These are my favorites right  here  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/spstlotu3x3c.html).    If you've really got your heart set on grovers,  then...  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/fusigrch3x3t.html)
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Post by: glyphic on 12 May 2010, 06:29
Wait. Some kids shot your guitar with firearms? And they broke tuning keys off? WITH BULLETS?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2010, 07:12
Nu nu nu, they hit it with a soccer ball. Twice. I was pretty piffled.

These are my favorites right  here  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/spstlotu3x3c.html).    If you've really got your heart set on grovers,  then...  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/fusigrch3x3t.html)

Those first ones wouldn't fit my guitar - the holes are only 8mm, I made sure to check first. I'm going to see what they say about returning them (the Grovers, that is) in case they don't fit - I don't want to order machine heads that don't fit and then find out I'm stuck with them!

Thanks, though!
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Post by: glyphic on 12 May 2010, 09:03
I am still baffled by your story.

I have always like Imperial style tuners, though.
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Post by: doombilly on 12 May 2010, 14:18
So last summer some kids decided by guitar looked like good target practice and broke a few tuning keys off.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Grover-Trophy-102-Rotomatics-3PerSide-Guitar-Tuning-Keys?sku=361000

These seem like the best replacements imo but what do y'all think?

http://www.sperzel.com/

don't fuck around.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2010, 17:58
I don't know if that's quite what I'm looking for, though. I tend to use a *lot* of alternate tunings include some really floppy string fret buzz ones, and reading through this doesn't seem to quite match up to what I want. Nice heads though.

Edit: Actually the more I think about it those would be exactly what I'd want for an electric, but I'm not fixing up an electric, so. . .

I am still baffled by your story.

I have always like Imperial style tuners, though.

Okay. Last summer, some of my relatives from England came over to New York, and we figured since they're here we should have a family reunion. I brought my guitar, and I don't remember the specifics but the headstock was hit with a soccer ball a couple times which broke the tuning keys off. Does that explain it? I then went home and took all of them off and put the guitar into storage.
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Post by: Lummer on 13 May 2010, 17:45

I can get one with an emg at the bridge for 2000 kroner. That's like 120$ right? I've got the stock emgs in my EC and I really do like them. Is 120$ a good deal?


Incidentally I live in Kroner-land too, so yeah, that would be a very good deal. Go go go!

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 May 2010, 13:40
Sweet. I'll have to wait it out a bit though, since I just bought a bunch of hardware and electronics from Guitarfetish for my el cheapo kelly-clone. Making an insert to fit a floyd-route from mahogany is hard work!
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 May 2010, 16:38
Local shop has one of these:
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sjm75tstopna1.jpg)

Priced at $175. It includes a tweed hardshell. It took so much effort not to buy it.

Determining factors were the fact that it is an SX guitar and has P-90 clones that sound dark. That body shape turns me on, though.

Rondo has some great stuff for people like me that would love to mod the shit out of something. Unfortunately living in the UK, there is no guarantee that I'll ever get the guitar. If it arrives to me damaged, or not at all, then no refund or anything. Which is a shame because the guitars similar to this on Rondo (at $130US) is just under £90. And over here, £90 hardly gets you anything nearly as good (for the money) as one of those.

I have a Strat which I love, but its about time I got something else. Would love a Jaguar but also would want something like the VRS 100, something with humbuckers and a really good bridge for dive bombs etc.
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 May 2010, 11:46
I want to build a Purple Quilt-top Warmoth Iceman with Bare Knuckle nailbombs...

I CAN HAZ 2 GRANDZ PLZ THNX!?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 May 2010, 22:56
Get a Ran custom instead. They can make it a neck-through.
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Post by: glyphic on 20 May 2010, 06:14
Is there really any reason to have neck-through construction? My Schecter is neck-through, but I don't really notice much in the way of benefit. Seems like the biggest difference is if the neck warps, I have to get a new guitar.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 21 May 2010, 01:58
Honestly i think neck-through is overrated, i'd just as much have an AANJ bolt-on. Both are equally as comfortable really. I can't stand most set-neck joints though, like on my main.

5-7 piece maple-walnut/ebony neckthroughs in natural are pretty damned sexy though. YMMV
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Post by: doombilly on 21 May 2010, 05:02
I think I notice the neck thru on my wife's carvin bass over her standard precision bolty.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 21 May 2010, 08:49
You're talking about a carvin versus a fender here though. Which models?
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Post by: edwinalink on 21 May 2010, 14:51
oooooh.... Ran makes a lovely guitar... looks like they cost  an arm and a leg!

Honestly I don't really have any huge preferences on Neck joints.

But where I'm at right now with my Warmoth planning. I'll have a purple left handed iceman hardtail with one pickup and a single combined Tone/Volume knob.

Ain't no one else on gods green earth gonna want that guitar.  :mrgreen:

to make matters worse... I'm gonna hand paint it with something like this...

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9085/moth2.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/moth2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

that is, unless I can find a way to stick that image under Lacquer...

Are your eyes bleeding yet?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 21 May 2010, 20:12
why
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 May 2010, 13:25
why not, besides the fact that it's pretty um, over the top? It's not your guitar, you don't need to look at it.

What kind of neck is going on it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 24 May 2010, 02:16
well. if its a warmoth neck...
it will have an ebony Fretboard, and stainless steel 6105 Frets... if its unfinished the wood would be Wenge, finished mahogony (no real smart reason for that, wenge is just freakin pretty) as for headstocks I'm still thinking...

though honestly, I'm thinking of buying a lefty mexican tele, and gutting it onto that Warmoth iceman body, adding a nice Humbucker, custom pickguard and the HB tele Bridge...

and then totally rip this guy off...

(http://www.hembryguitars.com/guitar%20web%20stuff/whiteIce/wi%20(1).jpg)

I mean, mexitele's are like 500 bucks. a decent Warmoth neck alone gets up to that price!
why

^EXACTLY.

If my posts have taught the people of this forum nothing else. its that I am a pretty big tool.

I feel my guitar should reflect that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 24 May 2010, 15:46
You're talking about a carvin versus a fender here though. Which models?
Any of her P basses. Am Std, Hwy 1, or ye olde Franken P (60's-70's).

vs
the first LB70P or the new LB70P (I think that's the model). Somewhat apples n guavas. But Fender don't make a neck thru.
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Post by: Pogotross on 24 May 2010, 23:55

to make matters worse... I'm gonna hand paint it with something like this...


Have you thought about trying wood burning/pyrography/whatever for it? I think it could turn out really interesting that way, especially with a purple stain afterward (if that works with wood burnings, I have no idea.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 May 2010, 00:02
OK so that IceCaster is very pretty
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 25 May 2010, 04:37
yeah, that thing is making me consider throwing out my Gothbeyondgoth Idea...

and doing a bright (but not pale) blue body, with a Tele style headstock.

why he cloned the Iceman 3+3 is beyond me. I think that's the uglier of two ugly headstocks.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 May 2010, 19:30
So I just bought a Squire Bullet for twenty-five bucks, and taking a lead from Patrick I intend to gut the internals, buy decent pickups, and then abuse and mutilate it until it is barely capable of thought.

This is the only good idea that has ever occurred to anybody in the history of the entire universe.
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Post by: glyphic on 27 May 2010, 06:26
Similar story to my last relationship
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Post by: Melodic on 27 May 2010, 10:41
So, I've finally got some dollars and cents to start working on that Strat clone. Thinking about Seymour-Duncan hot rails (x3?) and a few cans of yellow spraypaint. Don't think I'll bother replacing the fretboard or pickguard, although they both need it: it's never going go be a fun guitar to play, so I don't think I'll sink the extra money into that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 May 2010, 14:12
never going go be a fun guitar to play

Then honestly, why bother? Why don't you use the money on a guitar that you('ll) like?
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Post by: The Duke on 27 May 2010, 15:36
Or, even better, on buying me a guitar that I will like?

*cough*(Fender Telecaster, wood finish)*cough* what?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 28 May 2010, 11:09
never going go be a fun guitar to play

Then honestly, why bother? Why don't you use the money on a guitar that you('ll) like?

dogg that is like asking why people build monster trucks
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 May 2010, 14:15
Why do people build monster trucks what what
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Jun 2010, 14:10
Ok guitar thread, I need some guidance.  I have one of these:
(http://www.hartnollguitars.co.uk/products/Guitars/3604/3604-181020.jpg)

I want to replace the pickguard, becuase I don't particularly like the red tortoise shell over the sunburst.  I'm thinking either white pearloid (http://www.allparts.com/White-Pearloid-Humbucking-Telecaster-Pickguard-p/pg-9562-055.htm) or just plain white (http://www.allparts.com/White-Humbucking-Telecaster-Pickguard-p/pg-9562-035.htm).  Thoughts on which one I should go with?
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Post by: The Duke on 01 Jun 2010, 15:45
This is what they would look like (Photoshopped on by myself, as evidenced by their amateur quality) with each.  (Click on the thumbnail for full-size)

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard4.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard4.jpg)

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard5.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard5.jpg)

I lean toward the plain white of the two, but just solid black might be kind of cool as well.  Give me a few minutes to see how that would look...

Edit: here it is.

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard6.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard6.jpg)

I would go with the white or black, I can't decide which of those two I like better.  I don't particularly like the white pearloid, but it's up to you.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Jun 2010, 19:49
Just Plain White I suppose but I can't really see why you wouldn't leave the tort considering tortoiseshell is the greatest
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Post by: Bearer on 01 Jun 2010, 22:20
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2106_2499420) (http://store.guitarfetish.com/cunehupifort1.htm)
Black pearl possibly?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cire27 on 01 Jun 2010, 22:41
I'd just leave it off.
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 02 Jun 2010, 12:37
Aged white or vintage mint green. I have black on my sunburst tele, but aged white would be nice too. If you haven't drooled over these yet, check it:

http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickguards.html (http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickguards.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 02 Jun 2010, 15:27
I'm not going to Photoshop either of those because

a.) aged white and white are similar enough that you can probably visualize that pretty easily

and b.) mint green would look disgusting on the finish, in my opinion.


Here's black pearl, however:

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard1.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard1.jpg)

would you people stop having ideas it is eating up my precious time

jeez, god
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Jun 2010, 08:37
I am itching to play some loud fucking guitar, man. I love solo stuff and I love being an acoustic artist, but Jesus.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 03 Jun 2010, 11:08
I am itching to play some loud fucking guitar, man. I love solo stuff and I love being an acoustic artist, but Jesus.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 03 Jun 2010, 13:25
agreed
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2010, 03:44
Hey Gaz, I just got back from doing what you wanted to do. Be jealous, my fully hollow ES-345 clone through a Blues Junior.

I'll repeat that. Fully hollow ES-345 clone through a Blues Junior.

I'll rephrase that. Tonight I made Billy Gibbons sound like Enya.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 06 Jun 2010, 21:40
That might be taking the claim a little too far, Pat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2010, 23:37
Prove it
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 07 Jun 2010, 00:42
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7504/gibbonslespauls46010046.jpg)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4589/enya4.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2010, 01:12
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2828.jpg)

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8128/0213205000xl.jpg)

Gibbons and his stack of Les Pauls can suck it, hollowbodies own you and so do Blues Juniors
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Jun 2010, 06:33
(http://www.mac222.com/zz-top-W.jpg)

goddamnit
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Post by: BlahBlah on 07 Jun 2010, 10:08
yo patrick, should I buy a buzzstop for my jazzmaster? The buzzing & zero sustain is kinda starting to annoy me but is there any downside?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 07 Jun 2010, 10:48
mastery bridddgggeeee
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 07 Jun 2010, 10:59
Man, no one realizes how much work it is to learn to play a Jazzmaster/Jaguar and do it justice when they buy one because IT'S SO PRETTY.

Particularly if you're used to that ringing Gibson sustain. You could dickslap a Les Paul and it would sustain for days.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 07 Jun 2010, 12:05
I usually play a strat, so it's not the sustain I'm worried about. I set it up regularly but it's just developed more buzz recently and I can't seem to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2010, 13:52
LocTite every motherfucking screw in the bridge.

That'll solve it unless your saddles are just plain too low. That's a common source of that infamous buzz. But if you put the saddles too high, the intonation screws will wind up interfering with the string. It's a fine, fine balance.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 Jun 2010, 21:44
Man, I love it when my wife follows instructions.  My birthday/Father's Day present came in the house today.  I don't actually get It for a few days, but all I have to say is Gibson 82570511


Pictures in a week or so
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 14 Jun 2010, 14:38
Anyone else check to make sure that wasn't a Musiciansfriend product number?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Jun 2010, 16:30
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2852.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2853.jpg)

I bought a new guitar at the start of last month. $450 out of my tax returns, so fucking inexpensive, holy crap. And it's perfection, too. These people know how to make a ballin' acoustic. Simon & Patrick are owned by Godin, who also own Seagull and some other shit. They own the forests that provide wood for Fender and Taylor, but the Godin companies get first pick. It's a ridiculously clean-sounding instrument.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Jun 2010, 18:44
Anyone else check to make sure that wasn't a Musiciansfriend product number?

Nope, it's a serial number.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 14 Jun 2010, 23:05
Fuck you Patrick I'm out of cigarettes.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 15 Jun 2010, 10:26
Anyone else check to make sure that wasn't a Musiciansfriend product number?

Nope, it's a serial number.

No clue WHAT it is, but:

Quote from: The Guitar Dater Project
Your guitar was made at the
Nashville Plant, TN, USA
September 14th, 1980
Production Number: 11
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Jun 2010, 14:50
Wait, does that mean that it was the 11th made of its model, or of that particular run? Or something completely different?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 15 Jun 2010, 17:24
I only means it was the 11th guitar to come of that line from that plant on that day.

Low numbers aren't really that big of a deal. 
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 17 Jun 2010, 19:47
@Patrick:

That spruce top is absolutely out of this world, congrats.

Might I suggest you clean the fretboard next time you change the strings, though? Some cedar oil works just fine, just to keep the fretboard moisturized and bright looking.

Helps loads with the feel of the guitar, and I think it looks a lot cleaner.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 17 Jun 2010, 20:47
Personally I hate spruce guitars.

But that is a nice one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jun 2010, 01:31
@Patrick:

That spruce top is absolutely out of this world, congrats.

Might I suggest you clean the fretboard next time you change the strings, though? Some cedar oil works just fine, just to keep the fretboard moisturized and bright looking.

Helps loads with the feel of the guitar, and I think it looks a lot cleaner.

I like a moderate amount of grime for aesthetic purposes, but I'll definitely be needing to do this on my hollowbody. I might even have to refret, bending notes is such an enormous pain in the ass on the thing. I'd also like to swap the original bridge for a Tune-O-Matic, assuming the TOM fits the beastly thing.

These are all plans for when I actually have money, which will be never.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Jun 2010, 17:08
Birthday/Father's Day gift...

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_4220.jpg)



1980 Gibson "The Paul" Firebrand Deluxe.    I like it so much, I've already bought another one.

Yes, if you remember correctly, I do have a strange obsession with slightly oddball, low(er) production run guitars that other people tend to overlook.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Jun 2010, 10:23
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_8092.jpg)

What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_8098.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 22 Jun 2010, 11:35
Birthday/Father's Day gift...

<image>

1980 Gibson "The Paul" Firebrand Deluxe.    I like it so much, I've already bought another one.

Yes, if you remember correctly, I do have a strange obsession with slightly oddball, low(er) production run guitars that other people tend to overlook.

Beauty.  Love the finish; I have the same kind on my Les Paul Studio.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Jun 2010, 07:06
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:



What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.



That's one of Andrews creations, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 23 Jun 2010, 07:30
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:
What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.

That's the sweetest guitar, right?

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Jun 2010, 14:48
sO. My Tiny Terror got knocked off of the tailgate of the F250. Land on it's top/handle. After getting the rest of the crap loaded I plugged it in and got nothing. Fortunately it was a problem with a gtr cable and it kept on ticking. /endorsement.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Jun 2010, 07:17
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:
What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.

That's the sweetest guitar, right?



That goes without saying, mang.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jun 2010, 08:32
I've always wanted to have a guitar with no volume control, and I've always wanted a mustang with tort.

This solves all my issues! He's holding it for me, should have it by the end of July.

(btw yeah, Andrew built it. I was going to have him just do a body for me, but this is way cooler)
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Post by: negative creep on 26 Jun 2010, 09:17
Shane, that is probably the best guitar I have ever seen! Where can I get one and how much would I have to pay?
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jun 2010, 09:27
You can have it.

when you pry it from my cold dead hands.


But seriously. It was made by a guy on OSG. I'm not sure if he does custom orders anymore.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2010, 10:35
Guys after last night I really want a Jazzmaster and an Orange head plus 4x12.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 26 Jun 2010, 10:44
Pavement, I take it?

Yeah, his tone was amazing. I also want the overdrive he uses, the hot cake. I loved his strat sound as well, but I just can't get anything close to it. Maybe I need new pickups.
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Post by: Ballard on 26 Jun 2010, 20:57
What's on the bridge on that bastard Mustang?

Patrick, good for you you're already halfway there.
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Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 26 Jun 2010, 23:39
I was curious about that Hot Cake thing, so I looked it up.  You know, whenever I watch gear demos on the internet, all the guys do is noodle around with blues riffs.  Would it kill them to just bash on an open E chord, just for a little bit?
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Post by: Christophe on 27 Jun 2010, 07:38
Andy from ProGuitarShop.com usually does gear demos that aren't just blues lawyer licks over and over again. Check hiim out here! (http://proguitarshop.com/video-reviews)
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jun 2010, 11:18
What's on the bridge on that bastard Mustang?

Those are called strings sir
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Jun 2010, 17:45
Andy from ProGuitarShop.com usually does gear demos that aren't just blues lawyer licks over and over again. Check hiim out here! (http://proguitarshop.com/video-reviews)

Man, that Hummingbird tremolo is pretty rad.
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Post by: Ballard on 27 Jun 2010, 18:53
What's on the bridge on that bastard Mustang?

Those are called strings sir

There's something between/underneath the B and G strings on the bridge. Or am I imagining things?
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jun 2010, 23:32
Looks to be a screw for adjusting intonation on those two strings, but I'm not actually sure. Shane?
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Post by: Christophe on 27 Jun 2010, 23:45
It looks like one of these (http://store.guitarfetish.com/wiliadinwrbr.html) wraparound bridges from GFS. It says that it's a "compensatable G/B section" so Pat is right on the money.
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Post by: Christophe on 28 Jun 2010, 08:49
http://www.rondomusic.com
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Post by: Ballard on 28 Jun 2010, 12:09
Remember that semi-hollow guitars, particularly when played through distortion pedals, feedback like a motherfucker.

In the bad, humming anytime you're not making other sounds way. Not the awesome Big Black way.
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Post by: The Duke on 28 Jun 2010, 15:35
rule number one of noise rock: there is no such thing as bad feedback
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Post by: Ballard on 28 Jun 2010, 15:58
If you'd ever had a faulty pot you'd know how wrong you are.
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Post by: Ballard on 28 Jun 2010, 18:14
Also, make sure that there are fret markers on the neck, or the lack of them on the fretboard will start pissing you off very quickly.
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Post by: The Duke on 28 Jun 2010, 18:50
aaahh you caught me

I do not know the first thing about noise rock

(Seriously, I don't.  It was sort of a joke.)
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Post by: Chad K. on 28 Jun 2010, 22:29
Just bought a Joe Pass Emperor on Saturday one day before my band were due to spend all day in a studio.  It was the only thing I used for the recording on sunday.  I haven't told it yet, but I'm in love.
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Jun 2010, 01:03
http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000csbfl.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000csbfl.html)
One of these in a gloss black finish came into a pawn shop near my house, but it was gone within hours.  So angry I couldn't pick it up.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Jun 2010, 01:09
Every example of fretless electric guitar I have heard sounds like ass to me. Guitar Thread, bring me good examples of fretless guitar!
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Jun 2010, 01:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PyOZhgQnvU
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Post by: Zingoleb on 29 Jun 2010, 09:01
Wild, the body on that fretless looks exactly like my bass.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 11:06
Or were you referring to the ridiculous metal fretboard one in the video?
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Jun 2010, 12:38
In which case: wild, your bass looks like a Strat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 16:00
I was thinking "shitty Ibanez superstrat" but you know whatev
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Post by: Nodaisho on 29 Jun 2010, 19:49
I don't know, it seems to give a nice shiny tone.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 22:07
I wasn't saying it was a shitty Ibanez superstrat I was just saying it looked like one

You're totally right though that thing sounded fuckin' vicious, I bet Derek Trucks would cream himself
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Post by: Nodaisho on 29 Jun 2010, 23:55
To be completely honest, that post was solely to make a reflective metal/shiny pun.

But come to think of it, that tone was pretty amazing. Anyone know anything about that company? I had never heard of them before.
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Jun 2010, 09:06
I wasn't saying it was a shitty Ibanez superstrat I was just saying it looked like one

You're totally right though that thing sounded fuckin' vicious, I bet Derek Trucks would cream himself

Somewhere, he did.  And he has no idea why.
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 04 Jul 2010, 06:52
The metal fretboard is a pretty old idea in the East. Probably makes it super easy to bend. Check out this sarod (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarod):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzDx7vgluq0
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Post by: BlahBlah on 04 Jul 2010, 08:35
no I don't think you can
y'all lying
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Post by: The Duke on 04 Jul 2010, 11:12
but it would be so metal

(puns ftw)

(wait that is not a pun)

(guitar topic, please tell me if that is a pun or not)
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Post by: Bearer on 04 Jul 2010, 16:48
http://www.jamestrussart.com/Newsite/Models.htm

see also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJRH8ILm4VI
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Jul 2010, 16:53
The nut on my Jag broke.

I swear there's no fucking God.
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Post by: Ballard on 04 Jul 2010, 23:11
Dude it's a nut.

Get a new one, jeez. They're what, like 10 bucks for a really nice one?
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Post by: Bearer on 04 Jul 2010, 23:14
Better yet, you could be a manly man and go to a pet store, buy a cow-bone and make one from scratch:

http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/ (http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/)

Bonus points if you kill a bear for its femur instead.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Jul 2010, 11:06
Gene after having paid rent I now have exactly four U.S. dollars to my name. That guitar and my hollowbody are my only source of income right now.
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Post by: Akima on 06 Jul 2010, 03:56
I swear there's no fucking God.
Or God plays keyboards, or sax, or something...
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Post by: Ballard on 06 Jul 2010, 10:28
Nope, definitely not sax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_G).
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jul 2010, 10:38
It looks like one of these (http://store.guitarfetish.com/wiliadinwrbr.html) wraparound bridges from GFS. It says that it's a "compensatable G/B section" so Pat is right on the money.

*shrug* I'll let you guys know when I get it. Put a down payment on it last week.
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Post by: The Duke on 06 Jul 2010, 11:08
Nope, definitely not sax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_G).

Counterpoint. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Clemons)
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Post by: Bearer on 13 Jul 2010, 19:24
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs031.ash2/34926_403805727881_566427881_4632375_3034517_n.jpg)

Finally finished putting together my stereo guitar prototype.  It can send the neck and bridge pickups to either the right or left channel separately, or send both pickups to that standard tele 3-way and then output to a mono (left) channel.  It has one stereo output jack, and that cigar box in the background separates it into two mono channels.  Basically, I can distort the neck pickup and leave the bridge nice and shimmery, or vice versa.  It's one ugly sob (basically a Frankenstein monster) but for being built out of home depot lumber and a pawn shop strat clone, it sounds hella good!
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Jul 2010, 19:37
I don't know how the lumber impacts the tone but as far as looks it's pretty damn beautiful.

Just put some finish on it and you'll be set.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Jul 2010, 03:33
No he's right.  It' pretty hideous looking.   No need to tell people with ugly babies that they have cute kids.  They know they don't.  Just kind of avoid the subject entirely and say things like "I hear Timmy gets straight As in Math.  You must be proud."

The idea behind that is pretty neat though.  If that's you're first effort ever, I'm ridiculously impressed.  My first several guitars I built have been dismantled likely never to see the light of day again and I wasn't even trying to  do anything  wonky with the electronics.   Nice.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Jul 2010, 03:40
That guitar would be straight-up fuckin' delicious if it weren't for that suspect f-hole. (Is it even accurate to call that an f-hole?)
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Post by: Ballard on 14 Jul 2010, 12:56
No dude I actually like the way it looks.

Although I didn't notice before that the F-hole is too close to the pickguard.
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Jul 2010, 14:35
The neck and pickguard are from a $60 strat clone that I took a hack saw to.  And the f-hole is just a major f-up in general, but yeah, my first real effort into guitar bodies.  It's got a cedar back and a poplar front.  Sounds real nice actually.
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Post by: The Duke on 14 Jul 2010, 16:51
Then congratulations!  Someday I hope I can have the money and/or skill and/or time to build myself a guitar.

I am living vicariously through you and your guitar
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Jul 2010, 06:55
Hmm, watch the ground loop hum running two amps. If it is a problem I know a guy what can make you a break out box that has a ground lift built in. I have one for my parker nitefly.
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Jul 2010, 15:21
Having stereo options for guitars just sounds like a moneysucker idea to me. While I will not disagree that it would be awesome to run each pickup to a different amp, the problem is having two good amps ;)
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Post by: Ballard on 18 Jul 2010, 01:59
If you'd ever heard a Ric 4003 played live you'd shut the hell up.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Jul 2010, 05:59
Honestly Patrick I blend mine at the guitar with a standard instrument cable. But when I was doing some recording, since my X3Live pedal has dual inputs/tones... I was able to run the acoustic sound through a separate signal chain than the DiMarzios and that was pretty useful. Dragging two amps to a show is a PITA.
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Post by: Bearer on 18 Jul 2010, 11:46
My original idea behind this guitar was something that could work in a studio environment, where having multiple channels at once could be useful, but then also at a show.  That's why it also has a mono mode where the pickups are sent to the three way switch like a standard telecaster.  Even going live with stereo out, you could have the separate pickups driving 2 different effects chains that get blended together at the end into one amp.

Still, even if it's not practical, it is fun to mess around with.  I should probably record something and youtube it.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jul 2010, 18:20
If you'd ever heard a Ric 4003 played live you'd shut the hell up.

Cool your shorts, sugartits, I'm not hating, I'm just saying there's financial and physical impracticalities inherent in such a design. If you've got the motivation and funding to get past those, though, you're fuckin' home free.
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Post by: Radical AC on 18 Jul 2010, 18:26
Would it cause the same problems if you split it with and ABY into two amps?  I know Prowse from the Japandroids has such a setup, and I believe Nick Zinner from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs has such a setup.  I was considering running something like that on stage with my main effects chain into my Deville, an split another with an ABY into a bass amp with a POG or Digitech Whammy.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Jul 2010, 23:57
I mean, fuck, Scott Hull runs into like 8 amps with Pig Destroyer..
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Post by: Ballard on 19 Jul 2010, 11:07
All eight of them br00tal as fukk.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2010, 12:56
I wanna see a band like Slayer make their guitarist play shit like a Line 6 Variax so that each string will go to a different amp

And then watch them realize that the brain-melting distortion won't sound anywhere near the same that way
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Jul 2010, 18:16
I wanna see a band like Slayer

?
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2010, 18:28
Oh sorry am I suggesting that Slayer isn't unique, does that hurt
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Jul 2010, 19:13
So I got a Rockband drum controller for $10 and have it hooked up to my computer as a drum kit.  This may have been one of the best purchases ever.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Jul 2010, 09:47
Oh sorry am I suggesting that Slayer isn't unique, does that hurt

I was just wondering why you would even want to see Slayer, mang. Kerry King is a tool.

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Post by: Ballard on 20 Jul 2010, 16:57
(http://roguemag.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/sq_kerry_king_live_050612.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jul 2010, 17:35
Argue with that beard

I dare you, that fuckin' thing'll kill you
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Post by: Nodaisho on 20 Jul 2010, 20:48
The beard or the guitar?
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Jul 2010, 21:49
Pick one; they both look very stabby.
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Post by: Radical AC on 26 Jul 2010, 00:51
So opinions, I love them.  I've been trying to figure out my favorite guitar look.  I've come to the conclusion that the 4003 is the "coolest" (sound, elegance, "it" factor) looking bass. (I have much love for the EB-3 and Jag bass as well)  My favorite guitars would have to be my Rick 350v63, (gotta love what you got, and it's why I got it) the G&L Bluesboy, and Gretsch White Penguin.  But, the one that wins out for me is the Mosrite Ventures.  So, I've been looking at getting one.

(http://www.edroman.com/featured/images/mosrite_ventures.jpg)

So, it's kind of a general question for the thread, but I'm wondering what others thoughts on the subject are.
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Jul 2010, 01:02
Ricky 4001s were hella cooler than the new 03s.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 26 Jul 2010, 11:58
I would possibly murder a small child for a Mosrite. Gorgeous guitars
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jul 2010, 12:30
They sound so fuckin' sexy.

I mean shit, the Unicorns used them too, not just the Ventures, and everybody fuckin' loves the Unicorns.
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Post by: Bearer on 26 Jul 2010, 14:55
As soon as I get the time/money, I'm going to build a proper guitar.  Definitely a thinline Jazzmaster shape like the one I just recently completed, but out of some fancy wood, like Black Walnut/Cedar ideally, but those are kind of hard to find in specific thicknesses, so I'll probably have to go mahogany/maple. Nice and glossy.  Neck P90, Bridge humbucker, with a telecaster control plate and either a strat tremolo block or one of these sexy motherfuckers if I suddenly win the lottery or something:
(http://www.glendaleguitars.com/chimemaster03.jpg) (http://www.glendaleguitars.com/trem%20blocks.htm)

Dam, if only I didn't have more important stuff to blow money on...
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jul 2010, 12:28
What. the. fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 27 Jul 2010, 14:46
What. the. fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 27 Jul 2010, 21:18
Martin and Takamine are both good; however, I think Martins are generally kind of expensive (although in my experience you get what you pay for).
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Post by: Spluff on 27 Jul 2010, 22:48
get a fuckin dobro
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jul 2010, 23:50
guys what kind of acoustic guitar should I get? I can probably go up to like six hundred bucks if I don't spend any money for a month or so. (It would be an advantage if it can, uh, take a beating.)

I highly reccomend Simon & Patrick. You absolutely will not regret it. Got mine for $450 and it's a fantastic instrument. I'm very satisfied with that purchase. They're owned by Godin, same people who own Seagull, which is also a fine instrument.

See the photos of mine on the previous page, that's pretty much what they look like. Reeeeal purdy. They sound just as nice as they look.
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Post by: Radical AC on 28 Jul 2010, 16:15
I've been looking at S&P myself.  I want a Jumbo and don't feel like spending several thousand dollars on a J-200.  I bought my brother a Seagull guitar two years ago for his birthday and it play way better than I thought a guitar in that price range should.
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Post by: Ballard on 04 Aug 2010, 00:34
You should know, Martins are infamous for their dark tone. I had one of their cheaper models (cedar top, back and sides, was about 700 bucks?) once and it constantly bothered me how quiet and dull it was.

If you like sparkling, jangly acoustic tone, avoid Martin. Guild makes some excellent guitars for around that much, as do Blueridge and Art & Lutherie. Go play some and tell me what you think.

Remember that the "play the actual guitar you're buying" rule applies double for acoustics. Each and every one feels and sounds a little different.
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Post by: Albatron on 05 Aug 2010, 16:12
So a while back I took the neck off of a strat knockoff and put it on the body of an old rickenbacker hollowbody knockoff. Then I decided to remake the bridge and nut and tune it like a ukulele. only now im not sure what strings to use to get it to be g, c, e, a. The scale length is 25 1/2 or so. I tried using some old guitar strings but they were way too loose.

What strings should I use, o great masters of all thing guitar? I'll post some pics and sound bites once I get the electronics all figured out. 
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Aug 2010, 16:33
Depending on which octave those notes are in, the answer could be anything. If you're trying to get them into a higher octave than one would normally hear on a guitar, I'd say to try out lighter strings than your typical set, unless you've already got hella light strings on there. If you're trying to go deeper, get heavier ones. Pretty intuitive. Also, that sounds like a fucking baller project and I demand pics.
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Post by: Albatron on 05 Aug 2010, 20:52
Hmm, I guess that makes sense. I'm going for whatever octave a guitar is normally in, but the reentrant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reentrant_tuning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reentrant_tuning) tuning throws me off. The G is a octave higher than would be expected, then the C is the lowest string. I Just wanna know if I can use a set of regular or light guitar strings and not have some strings really tight and others relatively loose or if i need to buy single strings to achieve that. 
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Aug 2010, 19:26
So a Mark 1 Mosrite guitar is 2400 new direct or from Ed Roman.  I discovered The Ventures sponsored another guitar with mostly the same features later on HERE (http://www.wilsonguitarventures.com/vm75.html) for 550.  Rory Attwell from Test Icicles uses one.  It uses Aria pickups and bridge which I would consider swapping out.  I'm thinking of getting the VM 75 and putting in either THESE (http://store.guitarfetish.com/gfsalvisoblp.html) or bareknuckle soapbars(but they are way more expensive).  Thinking of getting it for my first project guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Aug 2010, 19:30
I mean the trem's a bit different, but it'd be a good guitar to mod.

Have you looked at Eastwood? They do Mosrite (http://eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/sidejack-DLX/sidejackDLX_frm.htm) and Univox (http://eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/hi-flyer/hi-flyer_frm.htm) clones that are a little less than the Wilson Brothers.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Aug 2010, 20:01
I have!  Eastwood is a pretty neat company.  I suggested them to my bassist friend and he bought [urlhttp://www.eastwoodguitars.com/Bass/classic4/images/classic4-big/classic4white.jpg=]THIS[/url] and absolutely loves it for his post rock band.  I would love to play both, but would have to go to Oregon before I could find a place that had both in stock.  I'm leaning towards the VM-75 because it uses the same construction and materials as the Mosrite where as the Eastwoods are made of basswood, but I'm not totally sure.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 06 Aug 2010, 23:42
I used to work at a place (http://ludlowguitars.com/) that stocks Eastwood's full line, and will vouch for their quality and playability.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Aug 2010, 09:07
I've only played the Ichiban before, but it was killer.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 07 Aug 2010, 09:27
I used to work at a place (http://ludlowguitars.com/) that stocks Eastwood's full line, and will vouch for their quality and playability.
Wow, we are playing a 7 minute walk away from there Friday 8.13.
Must. Resist. Temptation.
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Post by: Christophe on 08 Aug 2010, 22:40
As copypasted from that other board I post on, here's a smattering of my current guitar family:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P8090720.jpg)

The main guitar; a 1980 Fender Lead II with GFS Brighton Rock single-coil in the bridge, stock pickup in the neck. Feels somewhat heavy but it plays and sounds so good.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P8090721.jpg)

A friend's Squier Telecaster. Action is shit. Currently tuned to CGEGCC for one of the songs I've written.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P8090722.jpg)

L-R: Ibanez Artwood acoustic guitar, Ibanez bass (bought from a classmate for $20), another friend's Squier Jazz Bass with the frets pulled out. It sounds okay but he done screwed it up a bit (part of the nut is missing near the g string wtf), will probably give back to him as soon as he remembers to take it back.

Also, question: I'm in the market for a new tube amp (hopefully to be purchased by money saved up over the next few months). I'm looking for something with a low-enough wattage that wouldn't be ridiculous at a house show or a small venue but won't be underpowered next to a loud drummer. Amps that have caught my eye include the Fender Blues Jr. and Epiphone Valve Senior. Anyone got any thoughts?
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Aug 2010, 06:48
Wow, we are playing a 7 minute walk away from there Friday 8.13.
Must. Resist. Temptation.

Do it. You won't regret it.

Your wife might.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 10:29
Ooh, Ludlow has a National Airline.  I'd consider putting it on my card if Jack White didn't make them so cliche.

The main guitar; a 1980 Fender Lead II with GFS Brighton Rock single-coil in the bridge, stock pickup in the neck. Feels somewhat heavy but it plays and sounds so good.

Also, question: I'm in the market for a new tube amp (hopefully to be purchased by money saved up over the next few months). I'm looking for something with a low-enough wattage that wouldn't be ridiculous at a house show or a small venue but won't be underpowered next to a loud drummer. Amps that have caught my eye include the Fender Blues Jr. and Epiphone Valve Senior. Anyone got any thoughts?

I love racing stripes on Fenders.  I am always on the lookout for a Cyclone II if I can find a good one at a reasonable price.

I have a Hotrod DeVille 410 and a really good option for louder tube amps is the THD Hot Plate or other power attenuator.  It is a bit pricey, but for how much a good tube amp is, it is a good alternative to another amp.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Aug 2010, 10:53
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/732/axeg.jpg)
I love this thing to death.
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Post by: glyphic on 09 Aug 2010, 11:02
I respect the fact that you're in a committed relationship with that guitar, but I will never cease coveting it behind your back.
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Post by: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 12:08
That was a specific reference to the J.B. Hutto Montgomery Airline they have.  Supro Twin Tones are ace, though.  As much as I love the Hutto you are emulating Jack White if you play one ever if you are not trying to.  Other than signature models it seems to be a unique phenomenon to that guitar.  There may be others so closely related to an artist, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Aug 2010, 12:51
That's five kinds of stupid, bro.

Airlines are killer guitars and you can easily pull one off without being Jack White.

I'm pretty sure Jack White himself resents you for pigeonholing him into being that red guy with the lame drummer chick.
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Post by: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 13:13
I think I'm misrepresenting my opinion.  I have mad respect for Jack White and his custom aluminum Tripple Jet for the Raconteurs is something I've been GASing about for a while. (even earlier in this thread)  I just can't think of a guitar that is more closely associated to the artist than the JB Hutto and Jack White in all of music.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Aug 2010, 14:09
Do it.

Personally I like the gold hardware on this particular guitar. The rest of it is really subtle (white on black) and so it's not horrible and gaudy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Aug 2010, 10:50
Chris, AC15s are in your price range.

Get a fucking AC15.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Aug 2010, 10:58
I think I'm misrepresenting my opinion.  I have mad respect for Jack White and his custom aluminum Tripple Jet for the Raconteurs is something I've been GASing about for a while. (even earlier in this thread)  I just can't think of a guitar that is more closely associated to the artist than the JB Hutto and Jack White in all of music.

Gee, how about Les Paul and the Les Paul? Jimmy Page and the cherry sunburst Les Paul?

(and yes I know Paul plays a highly modified Recorder these days, nevertheless)

Billy Gibbons and the Gretsch Thunderbird?

Jimi Hendrix and the reversed cream Stratocaster?

Paul McCartney and the Hofner violin bass?

Kerry King and that piece of ass someone took an icepick to?
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Post by: Christophe on 10 Aug 2010, 11:25
Neil Young + Old Black Les Paul, Tim Midgett + Travis Bean Wedge Bass, Roger Miller + Fender Lead II, no wait I copped that last one.
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Post by: The Duke on 10 Aug 2010, 12:19
Gee, how about Les Paul and the Les Paul?
<snip>
(and yes I know Paul plays a highly modified Recorder these days, nevertheless)
<snip>

Sadly, I don't think he plays much of anything these days.


Nevertheless, I agree, all of those are way better examples than Jack White.  Others include:

Bruce Springsteen and his Telecaster/Esquire hybrid

Slash and his Les Pauls

Glen Hansard and his beat-to-shit acoustic

Angus Young and his SGs

John Fogerty and his Les Pauls
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Aug 2010, 12:34
Oh jesus right, it slipped my mind that he passed away.

Pretty much right up until his death, he was doing weekly shows at the Iridium Jazz Club here in New York.
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Post by: The Duke on 10 Aug 2010, 13:19
Because he was a stone cold badass.  Much respect.
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Post by: Radical AC on 10 Aug 2010, 17:22
I'll just 100% concede the point.

I believe the Vox Night Train and Orange Tinny Terror were pretty much made to fit the role of being small tube amps that can get pretty loud if needed.  Doombilly has one?  I believe he could attest to it better than me.

@V: That is what I was trying to get at, said much better. But I've already conceded the point
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Aug 2010, 18:04
Oh jesus right, it slipped my mind that he passed away.

Pretty much right up until his death, he was doing weekly shows at the Iridium Jazz Club here in New York.

Wasn't he playing three nights a week? Not just one? That man was a fuckin' hardass like nothing else.

As far as the Hofner violin bass goes, well, I've never seen anybody noteworthy other than Paul McCartney with one. As for Les Pauls and Teles, they're so damn common, who could possibly link them to just one musician? A reversed Strat instantly recalls Hendrix, though. An ES-345 sans F-holes conjure images of B.B. King's original Lucille, she wasn't the only one of her kind. Red ES-335s are an instant link to Clapton's days with Cream, EDS-1275s are synonymous with Jimmy Page.

So what if somebody wants to not wind up getting lumped into a certain category because of their guitar? They can do two things. Thing 1 would be to play something with a marked distinction from what the artist-who-made-it-famous played, and make a damn good mark that way. How many of us are lucky enough to do that? So some opt to do Thing 2, which is to use guitar makes and models that don't have that star connection.

Obviously we would all like to go with Thing 1. But Thing 2 isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just isn't necessarily a good thing either.

That said, I'm still going to judge you all relentlessly. IF U PLAY A LES PAUL UR A FAGGET WHO LIEKS SLASH
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Post by: Christophe on 10 Aug 2010, 18:13
As far as the Hofner violin bass goes, well, I've never seen anybody noteworthy other than Paul McCartney with one.

Hey Pat I am about to make you rage with one image. You know which image it is?

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2683665132_02e6ef80e1.jpg)

It is that one.
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Post by: squawk on 10 Aug 2010, 18:20
interrupting the boys' guitar wankery to make this face
 :D
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Aug 2010, 18:21
Gene I have no earthly idea who that is so I'm just gonna ignore you
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Post by: Bearer on 11 Aug 2010, 02:04
Panda panda panda panda panda panda!
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Aug 2010, 09:45
kill kill kill kill kill fuck death kill slash murder kill death kill
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Aug 2010, 10:52
here we go again
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Post by: The Duke on 11 Aug 2010, 11:26
on our own
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Aug 2010, 15:51
Orange Tiny Terror
I am definitely a fan. )Although I sort of wished I'd brought the 5150 combo to play that last outdoor show. Or More PA. But then we got rained on in the middle of it so...maybe not.) Anyway the TT is a great little amplifier. When I recorded "New New One" (http://soundcloud.com/illicitizen-1/new-new-one) I used two guitars (1st Acoustic Black Widow, Lead on the Parker) and no pedals. Both with the knobs (gain/vol) turned nearly all the way up. I think I lost some hearing. I've not heard the night train. But the club we areplaying at next doesn't have a gtr head so I'm bringing the TT to play through their backline cab. Be at 168 Delancey Street New York, NY Friday at 8PM and hear for yourself.  :-D
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Aug 2010, 06:28
Played a 1989 Gibson Explorer yesterday. I liked it. The one thing I didn't expect was how heavy it would be.

It was at Guitar Center. They had it priced at $1499. It was beat to shit. Chips and nicks everywhere, rust on the tuners and pretty much any other metal surface. There was writing all over the back of it. Like someone had all his friends sign their names. It didn't even have the original pickups. As I was blues lawyering it up, a sales guy came up to me and said "I can make you a deal on this. I was going to put it on sale. You can walk with it for $1000."

I laughed.
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Aug 2010, 06:58
here we go again
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Aug 2010, 06:59
Although I'm pretty sure that's the chick from Blonde Redhead and not from Deerhoof.

Pat, look at avatars before you post sucka.
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Post by: Christophe on 12 Aug 2010, 15:18
How does it sound when playing basslines on it? Is it as thick as a regular bass would be?

Part of me really wants to get a Bass-VI type guitar, and this is a thing I wonder.
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Post by: Bearer on 12 Aug 2010, 15:42
I have 12's on my Firebird and tune it down a step to D standard, and it just sounds beautiful.  Thicker strings + lower tunings = delicious.
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Post by: sean on 12 Aug 2010, 16:11
sam, pics!
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Aug 2010, 18:33
Although I'm pretty sure that's the chick from Blonde Redhead and not from Deerhoof.

Pat, look at avatars before you post sucka.

Gene I still don't know who that is (because people choose instead to post dumb clues to whomever it may be instead of actually saying it, classic internet style), but honestly I could not give a fuck, because they are still not nearly as instantly recognizable as Paul McCartney. Hell, YOU don't even know who that is for certain.
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Aug 2010, 21:02
No I lied it's the fucking Deerhoof chick.

But you can see where my confusion stems from.

(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1710/blonderedheadkazumakino.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Aug 2010, 02:32
Holy fuck, speaking of Bass-VIs. I sorta kinda desperately want one.
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Post by: FreshJive787 on 13 Aug 2010, 10:24
i got lost. can someone point me in the direction of the nearest internets highway?
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Aug 2010, 18:50
No I lied it's the fucking Deerhoof chick.

What is she playing?
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Post by: Radical AC on 13 Aug 2010, 19:12
The Fender VI or Bass VI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Bass_VI) people were talking about.  Looks pretty ace, and makes me wish I played bass, or maybe just had a Jag.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Aug 2010, 05:06
No I lied it's the fucking Deerhoof chick.

What is she playing?

I think it's a Teisco with a jazz/jag trem. Probably a bass-VI-alike
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Aug 2010, 18:33
aw man fuck 6-string basses y'know what
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 15 Aug 2010, 12:24
but Hooky!


(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab325/desolationrow10/Hooky-2.jpg?t=1281900246)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Aug 2010, 17:18
And Jack Bruce motherfucker and actually come to think of it Paul McCartney (and John Lennon!) on the last few Beatles records, you cock.
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Aug 2010, 17:46
Just so everybody is on the same page:

(http://images.msorensen.net/My%20Guitars/BassVI.gif) =/= (http://www.simondalfonso.id.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/sr506.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Aug 2010, 17:59
Bass VIs make me so very wet, you don't even know. I will only ever own two basses in my lifetime, if I ever own a bass. One will be a Jazz Bass. The other, a Bass VI. So sexy.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Aug 2010, 12:44
To be honest i would rather own the more common kind of six-string bass.

Also, i saw a five-string Alembic in a store for like 1200 the other day. It will be mine.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 19 Aug 2010, 17:51
Ugh.   So I quit my job today, which because I never take vacation basically means I'm getting paid for like eight weeks of work on my last paycheck.  Cool.  I've got a million things I can do with that extra cash.   Unfortunately, I walk into my local music shop today to find that they've got a 65 SG special for sale in there. 

My wife is going to be so pissed.   Somebody please buy it before I do.
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Post by: sean on 19 Aug 2010, 19:43
yr in dc, what music shop is this?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 19 Aug 2010, 20:04
Dude, I don't want you to really buy it before I can.    Sheesh.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Aug 2010, 11:30
Mrs Doombilly and I never did make it to Ludlow Guitars. I has somewhat of a sad. But then I should probably keep paying the mortgage.
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Post by: Lupercal on 23 Aug 2010, 14:24
I remember seeing a Bass VI in the local newspaper for about £200. Two days later it had sold and I found out just how much they're actually worth. I hated myself.

I'm trying to mod my old Strat-copy, wondering if the Seymour Duncan SJAG-2 is a good pickup for it. Seeing as I'd love a Jag but have no muns...as is the story of my life.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Aug 2010, 10:28
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/5/3/734253.jpg)

Must. Have. The Voltage control carried over from the Germanium OD is just...filthy.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Aug 2010, 07:50
hugl!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 29 Aug 2010, 08:52
Yesterday was my once annual guitar maintenance day.   Everything got new strings, all my fingerboards got oiled, all the bodies got polished, and so did the frets.   I took the opportunity to put the correct truss rod cover on one of my semi-vintage Gibson's, and found out the neck pickup is dead on another guitar.  Two guitars will need fret jobs sometime in the next few months (surprise surprise, it's the two guitars I play the most) and I removed, crammed toothpicks and wood putty down the holes, and re-installed half a dozen loose straplocks.    Had so much fun jamming on some of the guitars I've hardly touched since the last time I did this.    Good times.   All the guitars feel so much different after giving them the once-over really thoroughly, I recommend everyone do it periodically.


That having been said:  Does anyone own a PRS CE model?   There's a really nice CE 24 on consignment at the local shop for a grand.   I have a big ass check coming next week and a thousand will be much more palatable to my wife than the  getting the 65 SG special.   There's just such a huge price difference between the customs and the CEs that I'm looking for first hand experience as to why?  The bit of research I've done says same quality, same workmanship, same woods, just a bolt on neck instead of a set one.   If that's really and truly all there is to it, I'm all over it.   I tend to gravitate towards the slightly less desirable instruments anyway.   I'm going to go down and play it some more, I was just looking for some firsthand experience. 

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Post by: Patrick on 29 Aug 2010, 11:18