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Title: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 24 Apr 2009, 20:11
I've got no hate for Ibanez guitars. They sound great and the majority of them look fine (take notice, B.C. Rich). I personally wouldn't buy one, 'cause I am not even close to Ibanez's target demographic, tonally or aesthetically. But I wouldn't mind playing one at all!
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Post by: zerobar on 24 Apr 2009, 20:53
^Yeah, you know I think people have this idea in their heads that "Uh, Ibanez, those is metals guitars. If you don't play metals, then those is so stupid." But I really think that both the rg and s series' are plenty tame in looks and appearances to fit into any genre of music. Hell, I met a guy who used a rg770 to play country. I will say though, that although the new ones are great, they still don't quite have the mojo of the ones from the late 80's and early 90's.

Another good one that they made in the 80's that's really overlooked is the roadstar series. Those apparently had a nice strat style "C" shape neck, and they looked really nice and reserved.

Really, I think Ibanez's bread and butter through the years are the ones that are the most "standard," like the rg, s and even as far as the Satriani guitars.

They make very affordable hollow bodies, too.
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Apr 2009, 23:50
Hagstrom make affordable hollowbodies AND respectable solidbodies. Best of both worlds.
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Post by: Bearer on 24 Apr 2009, 23:55
Hagstrom make affordable hollowbodies AND respectable solidbodies. Best of both worlds.
I have a friend who has a vintage Hagstrom (before they were bought out), of which we can't tell the year.  It's the most beautiful sounding acoustic I've ever heard, and truly a beauty to look at.  Also really quite heavy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 25 Apr 2009, 01:06
I really don't like basswood bodies, which rules out the majority of Ibanez guitars.  On the whole the brand isn't bad, it's just that for the money I would rather get something else in almost every price range.

When I saw The Thermals Wednesday Hutch Harris was playing on a 72 tele thinline.  The lo-fi fuzz and twang was so amazing I really, really want one now.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: MadassAlex on 25 Apr 2009, 01:26
Ibanez are really nice generalist guitars, but it's pretty clear that they're geared towards heavier use of distortion and leads. Which is fantastic for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 25 Apr 2009, 01:54
^yeah, the basswood on the rg's pretty much MAKES them lead guitars, but the S's are all mahogany. I saw one of the new S series guitars, at a store and it had a new type of trem on it. More like a Wilkensen. Anyone ever played around with their A series (Les Paul-ish) series much? Wondering if they're a viable alternative, price/quality/etc wise.

I played a couple of those Haggstrom airline copies. They're pretty cool, and I thought alot of them looked really interesting. But where I'm at, the only person who carries them is SIGNIFICANTLY overpriced on everything.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 25 Apr 2009, 02:16
Yeah, I played an S with a lovely trem. Wonderful tone, beautiful handling. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Apr 2009, 02:24
The S Body shape is, was and always will be the comfiest in the world.

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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2009, 08:49
So I was looking up old Airline guitars, like the one I have on hold..and I found this.

(http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/images/airline.jpg)

Guys, I think I might do that. Just throw in a bridge 'bucker. Maybe wire that three-way switch to on-off-off as a killswitch.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 25 Apr 2009, 08:53
or you could stop being a fuck and leave things the way they are supposed to be by way of natural order you compulsive modder fuck
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2009, 09:02
Dude, all it entails is NOT BUYING A NECK PICKUP. Haha.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Apr 2009, 08:02
I will give you my Les Paul copy's neck 'bucker if you promise to not be mean to that guitar. I'm planning on buying '57 reissue humbuckers for that fucker and giving her a total refret and setup job anyway.

The S Body shape is, was and always will be the comfiest in the world.

My AVRI Jag begs to differ, gentle sir.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Apr 2009, 08:04
I dunno, man. The idea of having something that rad as a single-pickup guitar makes me feel pretty good in the pants.
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Post by: Tehz on 26 Apr 2009, 20:23
I'm with Patrick, the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body is amazingly comfortable.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 26 Apr 2009, 21:32
Dude, all it entails is NOT BUYING A NECK PICKUP. Haha.

as well as rewiring the shit out of that thing. what killswitch? THERE IS NO SWITCH

I'm with Patrick, the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body is amazingly comfortable.

It's not uncomfortable but I'm more on the Tele side of this debate.
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Post by: zerobar on 26 Apr 2009, 22:41
Dude, all it entails is NOT BUYING A NECK PICKUP. Haha.

as well as rewiring the shit out of that thing. what killswitch? THERE IS NO SWITCH

I'm with Patrick, the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body is amazingly comfortable.

It's not uncomfortable but I'm more on the Tele side of this debate.

I hope, there's a switch. It's got two pickups. Not too useful without one. haha

I'm guessing that he's just talking about wiring up the three way switch so that it's just on/off/off, or something like that. Wouldn't be too difficult.

So I bought an airbrush today. I've still got to get paint. I figure after finals I'll start playing around with it on matte board, then after I feel comfortable I'll start working on guitars. I've got a kind of tele/baretta hybrid body that I'll probably start on, since it's got the most surface area, being a single pickup.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 26 Apr 2009, 22:47
Oh are we talking about the red and black Airline? I assumed he meant the one attached to his post.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 26 Apr 2009, 22:58
Yeah, I could see how that's confusing. i kinda assumed that what he was getting at was the he was inspired by the one in his post.

Even still, he'd probably still have an open wire channel and screw holes, which would be almost impossible to cover up, without a refinish. VERY convenient that there is no pickup route though. Kinda strange. I'm not too familiar with old Airlines. Is that common?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Caspian on 27 Apr 2009, 02:52
man, explorer tuned down to b, huge bass amp, delay pedal, neck pickup, tone down to 0, weed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :police:
 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Apr 2009, 05:20
Oh are we talking about the red and black Airline? I assumed he meant the one attached to his post.

Yeah, the redburst one. The white is just inspiration.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Apr 2009, 16:17
http://img513.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0252.jpg

Clicky.

For those who may be interested, and own stoptail guitars, this is pretty interesting (and was news for me). Apparently, Mr. Billy Gibbons has used this reverse string-wrap for some time with his '59 Les Paul, the Pearly Gates. We all know that's like the best sounding LP there is (subjective, blah blah blah).

Basically this works in the following way. If you have a stoptail bridge, you either have the tail risen to high, and therefore not as much resonance passes to the body as if you had it locked shut next to the body. Having it that low means the strings will lay on the bridge before reaching the saddles causing loss of sustain and from my experiencie an overall loss of high-end harmonics. Having it this way increases sustain and clarity of the guitar, at the cost of having to bend further to reach a certain pitch. It was hardly noticeable to me though. Here's a website explaining it all.

http://www.dominocs.com/AshBassGuitar/stoptailwrap.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Apr 2009, 16:24
Pearly Gates. We all know that's like the best sounding LP there is (because it fuckin' is).

Fix'd

Anyways, I did that wrapover-thing on my LP a while ago, and I ended up knocking the low E out the saddle constantly. Now I have it regular, but I still have the stoptail all the way down. Mmm, tension.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Apr 2009, 16:33
Pearly Gates. We all know that's like the best sounding LP there is (because it fuckin' is).

Fix'd

Anyways, I did that wrapover-thing on my LP a while ago, and I ended up knocking the low E out the saddle constantly. Now I have it regular, but I still have the stoptail all the way down. Mmm, tension.


I do that all the time on my freaking Jazzmaster. Apparently 0.053 E string isnt okay with Jazzmaster Saddles. I'll just cut the saddle groove a bit wider, you could have done that with your LP. I like tension, but t'was the loss of sustain that was annoying me. I mean, I don't need a sustainer now, get me? It just rings. Full clean, on a Blues Junior, mind you. It's awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 27 Apr 2009, 20:29
Yeah, I know a guy at our local shop that uses that with his Les Pauls. He plays in a death metal band, and as such, tunes super low. He uses super thick gauge strings and wraps it like that so it doesn't feel like spaghetti tuned down that low. I really find screwing with string tension kinda interesting. Like the way reverse head stocks will get you better bass sustain and response and easier string bends, at the sacrifice of high note sustain. Kinda would like to play around with ferrule placement on string throughs and see what results would work the best (if I had a guitar I wouldn't mind screwing up and had time to do it)
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Post by: doombilly on 28 Apr 2009, 06:38
Funny re: bridges and teh strings that goes thru them...

My 78 mustang, I had been wrapping it wrong for the entire time I have had it (early 90s)...until I took that luth class a few months ago. It is really supposed to be wrapped under the big bar. I've never had the whammy bar for it so I never noticed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Apr 2009, 08:26
Yeah, I know a guy at our local shop that uses that with his Les Pauls. He plays in a death metal band, and as such, tunes super low. He uses super thick gauge strings and wraps it like that so it doesn't feel like spaghetti tuned down that low. I really find screwing with string tension kinda interesting. Like the way reverse head stocks will get you better bass sustain and response and easier string bends, at the sacrifice of high note sustain. Kinda would like to play around with ferrule placement on string throughs and see what results would work the best (if I had a guitar I wouldn't mind screwing up and had time to do it)

Weird, I always felt like the tension decreased when I did the wraparound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Apr 2009, 08:29
I did it once with my Firebird and ended up with a ton of fret buzz, somehow..huh.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Apr 2009, 08:37
I always figured the string tension would decrease if you decrease the Break Angle, no?!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Apr 2009, 08:40
I thought so..
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Apr 2009, 08:47
Good, I increased the Break Angle on my LP, and it plays better now, actually.

God, I love that guitar.
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Post by: zerobar on 28 Apr 2009, 21:36
So, I've looked at making that Epiphone Coronet, and I had a couple of things that if I did it, it would have to have.

1.neck through
2.ebony fretboard
3.batwing headstock
4.angled recessed jack on the edge (like an Ibanez Jem)
5.stainless steel frets

The rest is up to opinion (paint, pickups) and design (wood for the "wings"). I'm contemplating not putting a pick guard on it (or at least a clear one), if I use an airbrushed graphic. Someone on here suggested british racing green, which got me looking at old race cars, particularly Lotus' from the 60's. There was one, which was British racing green and had a yellow stripe that flares to the front. I thought about putting that graphic on it, complete with number, and then airbrushing the Epiphone logo on, to look like a car logo. Here's a link to a picture of the car.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f163/76082d1205273506-vintage-lotus-f1-cars-conv_bild-c-465.jpeg

I also found where I can get a neck through blank with all those attributes at Carvin's website. My only gripe is that it's 24 frets, so I'd have to alter the body shape slightly to accommodate it. so I guess I'm just asking if this looks like a good idea?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Apr 2009, 10:37
GUYS, i have two guitars now!

Got a new ltd EC-1000 in vintage black to go along with my (grandfather's) ancient Hopf Telstar Standard.

Yes, it's a bit of an improvement.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 29 Apr 2009, 14:13
So, I've looked at making that Epiphone Coronet, and I had a couple of things that if I did it, it would have to have.

1.neck through
2.ebony fretboard
3.batwing headstock
4.angled recessed jack on the edge (like an Ibanez Jem)
5.stainless steel frets

The rest is up to opinion (paint, pickups) and design (wood for the "wings"). I'm contemplating not putting a pick guard on it (or at least a clear one), if I use an airbrushed graphic. Someone on here suggested british racing green, which got me looking at old race cars, particularly Lotus' from the 60's. There was one, which was British racing green and had a yellow stripe that flares to the front. I thought about putting that graphic on it, complete with number, and then airbrushing the Epiphone logo on, to look like a car logo. Here's a link to a picture of the car.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f163/76082d1205273506-vintage-lotus-f1-cars-conv_bild-c-465.jpeg

I also found where I can get a neck through blank with all those attributes at Carvin's website. My only gripe is that it's 24 frets, so I'd have to alter the body shape slightly to accommodate it. so I guess I'm just asking if this looks like a good idea?

This sounds like an incredible idea, albeit ambitious, but I assume you know what you're doing.  Maybe start a thread on the tdpri or offset guitars forums.  Build threads are awesome, and this guitar you're cooking up sounds excellent!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 29 Apr 2009, 14:43
Thanks, I've put together and painted guitars before, but never built them from the ground up. This seemed like the next logical step, especially since I hopefully won't have to shape/fret/install truss rod/radius the neck (the scariest part to me). The only issue I'm still iffy on is the pick guard. If I do start this, it won't be for a while, until I get a few paychecks. Any other opinions on it?
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Apr 2009, 19:41
I'd almost say no pickguard.  Oh have the pickguard be the racing decal.  Either way it sounds like you want to do something like this:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Shittyguitardrawing.png)
(please forgive my shitty drawing, drawing with a tablet is a new experience for me, and my desk is rather cluttered)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 29 Apr 2009, 21:21
Yeah, that's pretty much the gist of it. I don't think I'm going to use a neck pickup, because of a couple reasons. First, the top cutaway is almost as far as the bottom, so I'm worried about the strength of the neck. Second, the originals (like the one I'm thinking of replicating) didn't have neck pickups (due to a similar reason, they were set necks and the billet where it connected would largely have been removed had they used a neck pickup). I rarely use the neck pickup anyway.

I think I'm going to make it slightly thicker than the originals (they were somewhere around an sg's thickness). I don't know how far the billet on the neck through blank goes back, but I'm guessing it won't be far enough and I'll have to add to it (no big deal). I'll probably have to take a generous amount of the back of the neck where it meets the body, which i think is how it's designed.

I'm gonna draw up a picture and I'll try and post it here later tonight.

Thanks for all the input!
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Post by: zerobar on 29 Apr 2009, 22:22
So here's a picture I drew up of what it would look like with all the things I have proposed. I'd probably have the 5 tilted the other way for obvious reasons and the "Lotus" is a little messed up. The more I look at it, the less I feel that 24 frets would screw the look up. I think I'd make it string through, since I know I'd use a hard tail, and that would make the most sense. I still have to price everything out, but I don't think money would be the primary concern. I'm fairly certain everything would come in under $1000, which is excellent considering what I'd be getting out of it.
Here's the drawing:

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3374/dscf0386.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0386.jpg)
(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/dscf0386.jpg/1/w320.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img530/dscf0386.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 30 Apr 2009, 04:26
RE: low guitar tunings

There's a reason so many dudes play Les Paul style guitars down-tuned: the distance between the nut and the tuners tends to be greater. Reverse 6-in-line headstocks are the most extreme example of this, but the Gibson headstock is possibly the best compromise assuming regular string gauge and scale length.

That being said, it's all basically bullshit unless you're playing some crazy-ass Meshuggah style 31" scale guitar. Learn to compensate. Heaviness is more in your hands than in your guitar.
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Post by: zerobar on 30 Apr 2009, 10:01
^QFT

I still do notice a little bit of a difference, though, in the feel of a reverse headstock than a standard. Not enough to make a huge difference, but noticeable. Really though, what it finally comes down to is aesthetic choice.

I used to HATE reverse head stocks, but after a while they started to grow on me, to the point where I really like then now and will actively consider it a plus. 
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Post by: jeph on 03 May 2009, 00:34
Fodera actually offers an option where they move the low B-string to the A-string position on the headstock because it increases the string tension and thus the bass response:

(http://fodera.com/images/foderaimp5_full.jpg)


RE: double-cutaway guitars with set necks: the easiest solution to neck joint issues is to use a 21 or 22 fret neck, but leave the neck pickup over the 24th fret harmonic (like in a 60s SG reissue). This gives you a decent chunk of wood attaching the neck to the body while still allowing for a neck pickup. Paul Reed Smiths also use a big-ass neck joint and just route part of it out for the neck pickup, and I have never heard of a stability issue with any of their guitars.
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Post by: zerobar on 03 May 2009, 09:10
Yeah, the only thing is that the pre fretted, pre shaped, pre truss rod neck is pretty appealing to me. And it i couldn't use it, it would severely deter me from even considering attempting this project, at this time. Plus, it automatically comes with ebony, which i want, and it offers stainless steel frets, at less money than a bolt-on would be from Warmoth. And I don't mind having 24 frets, it's just that I rarely use them. I could maybe squeeze a single coil in there, but i think I'm just going to take the pluses over the minuses and get over not having a neck pickup. Like i said earlier, i rarely use it anyway and I pretty sure the originals didn't have them either, although what i'm making is pretty far from a perfect replica. I might look at a single coil though.

Interesting Bass. I can imagine it being a little confusing to string the first time, but it is a cool idea.

Anyone ever tried one of those Bich 10 strings they have out now? I always dismissed B.C. Rich as having total crap, and some of there stuff still is, but some of the vintage reissues actually look pretty nice.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 09:49
(http://www.lilypix.com/photos/data/d58072be2820e8682c0a27c0518e805e/2882_p58255.jpg)

This guy is having more fun than any of us will ever have in our entire lives.

I should just kill myself now. I would love to take him with me though just 'cause he picked a faggy relic'd Paul over any of those pristine 335s (esp. the GORGEOUS sunburst one!) in the background.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 10:02
That's not reliced, dude. That's Gary Moore's vintage LP. Used to belong to Peter Green.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 10:12
Either way, still lame. Needs moar vintage sunburst (and none of that cherry shit either).
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 May 2009, 10:41
finally, you post some decent pictures again...BEEN WAITIN' since the airliner!
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 10:53
Either way, still lame. Needs moar vintage sunburst (and none of that cherry shit either).

Fuck, you play a Les Paul for 50 years and see if it doesn't fade. Hurrrr.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 11:32
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst you've got a deal. Black doesn't fade nearly as bad as transparent red.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 03 May 2009, 11:38
A Mr. Page wants to have a word with you, Patrick. It is about your shit taste in guitars.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 May 2009, 11:39
To be fair, Patrick does play a Jaguar.

Though, Jags are nowhere near as cool as Jazzmasters.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 May 2009, 13:32
A Mr. Page wants to have a word with you, Patrick. It is about your shit taste in guitars.

Ted Leo's ES-335 begs to shit in your mouth. And differ.
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Post by: Chad K. on 03 May 2009, 16:48
So, I went hollowbody shopping yesterday to replace my Dot (which I don't care for). The Dot is a nice sounding and looking guitar, and the string action is great, but I'm not a fan of that thick neck.  I thought since I have been primarily a bass player for 17 years, the neck would be fine.  But, sine I switched to guitar in my band, I find my hand cramping up after a while.  This guitar would probably be great for soembody with E.T. fingers, but it's not for me.

After testing various Gretsch's, Epiphones, etc, I ended up with, unbelievably, an Ibanez.  It's a rubyburst AF75 and other than the name on the headstock I love it.  It played easily better than anything I tried, looked incredible, sounded better than most of the guitars I tried (admittedly I was in the $300-$700 range so Gibsons and high-end Gretsch were out).  It has the fancier older trapeze tailpiece that has since been replaced by the "T" style on some of the guitars. (THere seems to be no rhyme or reason on the tailpiece as the same models and years had different ones.  Different factories maybe?). Plus, it had a slight mark on the back of the neck so I got it at under 3 bills.  I couldn't believe it.  I'll probably change out the pickups and pots (which sound really good as is) and will definitely put in a bone nut, but other than that it's one helluva guitar.

After falling in love with and obtaining an Ibanez Talman and now this, I need to rethink my prejudice against this company. 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 03 May 2009, 17:59
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst you've got a deal. Black doesn't fade nearly as bad as transparent red.
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst you've got a deal.
If it is a real man's sunburst and not a shitty cherry sunburst
shitty cherry sunburst
FIGHT. YOU. BITCH!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 04 May 2009, 00:33


After testing various Gretsch's, Epiphones, etc, I ended up with, unbelievably, an Ibanez.  It's a rubyburst AF75 and other than the name on the headstock I love it.  It played easily better than anything I tried, looked incredible, sounded better than most of the guitars I tried (admittedly I was in the $300-$700 range so Gibsons and high-end Gretsch were out).  It has the fancier older trapeze tailpiece that has since been replaced by the "T" style on some of the guitars. (THere seems to be no rhyme or reason on the tailpiece as the same models and years had different ones.  Different factories maybe?). Plus, it had a slight mark on the back of the neck so I got it at under 3 bills.  I couldn't believe it.  I'll probably change out the pickups and pots (which sound really good as is) and will definitely put in a bone nut, but other than that it's one helluva guitar.


I have an '04 AS75T and you picked out the issues with it straight away.  The nut is a cheap piece of shit (mine broke, actually, a couple weeks after I got it) and the pickups could use a wee-bit more oomph but are otherwise not-too-bad.  Yeah, alright, the binding material feels cheap too, however, I'm the original owner on mine and play it fairly regularly and it has stayed put, so I guess I won't complain about it.

Basically, for under $500 you can put together an instrument that the vast majority of people cannot differentiate from an ES-335 in a blind listen off.  I'm really quite happy with mine and I stand by my statement a couple pages back that the hate on so many people seem to have for Ibanez is mostly unjustified.

In other news (and what I popped into the thread for) is that I just got a new (to me) band saw and am now re-considering my earlier statement that the guitar I'm currently building would be an explorer shape.  I'm now thinking a Jazzmaster shape in British racing green with H-S-H pickups, or perhaps just two humbuckers and SG wiring/pots (no pickguard). 

Meh.. I'm not ready to start working on the body yet, so it could change again.  The only thing I know for sure is that it's going to be green and chrome with a maple neck.   :laugh:
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Post by: BlahBlah on 04 May 2009, 05:57
For some reason my dad went crazy last night and bought a strat body, bridge, neck and tuners on eBay for £50 altogether. We have some spare pickups and we're thinking of wiring it like http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm

I fully expect this to sound pretty bad, I can't imagine the quality of a neck that cost £16. Does anyone have any experience of building cheap, nasty guitars?
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Post by: zerobar on 04 May 2009, 09:29
^Yeah, I saw somewhere on the internet that these people made these complete guitar kits for somewhere around $150. They had an ibanez rg kit where the body was routed like a regular ibanez body, but the frets where not in the right place, in relation to the end of the neck. I am almost COMPLETELY sure that the scale was WAY off. I didn't feel too good about the other kits, either. But, you never know. It might be cut right, but it's still probably bottom of the line Chinese manufacture, and i bet the quality of wood is pretty bad. for the price though....
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Post by: imapiratearg on 04 May 2009, 16:20
Lately I've been finding BBE effects really interesting.  Particularly their Sonic Maximizer and the Mind Bender Chorus/Vibrato.
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Post by: glyphic on 05 May 2009, 12:50
Lately I have fallen in love with the Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I also have fallen in love with having absolutely no money with which to procure one.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2009, 18:57
I have one.

Teehee!
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Post by: Tehz on 05 May 2009, 20:16
Lately I've fallen in love with OSG member nealescott's blonde Nocaster clone.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/metstele.jpg)

He's trying to sell it and I called dibs. Assuming I can get a couple hundred bucks more together before he gets back to me, I should have a sexy new instrument in my collection.  :-D

(due to terrible economic circumstances, my "collection" currently consists of my Jazzmaster and that's it. I had to sell both my Mexican Tele Deluxe and my Epiphone  :cry:)
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Post by: sean on 05 May 2009, 20:19
oh dear god

oh dear fucking god
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2009, 20:21
What?  The guitar or the Mets sticker?

Afterthought: What makes a Nocatser a Nocaster?  Is it the bridge?
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Post by: Tehz on 05 May 2009, 20:25
The lack of the word "Telecaster" on the headstock.

As far as I know that's really the only major difference. Telecasters were originally called Broadcasters but Gretsch tried to sue them over it or something so they just removed the word from the headstock for the period of time before they changed the name to Telecaster; the headstock just said "Fender".
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Post by: Radical AC on 05 May 2009, 20:42
I have one.

Teehee!

So do I.  High five!
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 May 2009, 21:21
Yeah!

o/
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Post by: David_Dovey on 06 May 2009, 04:49
Ted Leo's ES-335 begs to shit in your mouth. And differ.

Hey dogg nowhere did I say that black-burst isn't good but I will seriously cunt you if you suggest cherry-burst is shit again.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 May 2009, 05:12
OH GOD YOU'RE GETTING THE MR. MET TELE?

I love that fucking guitar. WELL DONE, SIR.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 May 2009, 07:06
Lately I have fallen in love with the Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. I also have fallen in love with having absolutely no money with which to procure one.

I am currently fapping over the Blues DeVille 410. o/

Ted Leo's ES-335 begs to shit in your mouth. And differ.

Hey dogg nowhere did I say that black-burst isn't good but I will seriously cunt you if you suggest cherry-burst is shit again.

Cherry-burst is shit.

(I need a good cunting, it's been ages since I got laid)
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Post by: Ballard on 06 May 2009, 07:43
OH GOD YOU'RE GETTING THE MR. MET TELE?

WELL DONE, SIR.

(It may be known already that I am a huge Mets fan)
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Post by: MadassAlex on 06 May 2009, 09:47
Hi, guys. I recently rediscovered an old blog post I made in a mostly-joking fashion, and I thought you guys might be amused:

Quote
Fuck you, guitarists. You are collectively my least favourite kind of musician (except for drummers) because:

1. You are such competitive assholes that it gets in the way of playing good music.

2. You're obsessed with your own fucking idea of "good" music and the true path of guitar playing that you can't open your mind to other paths, and thus hamstring yourselves as musicians.

3. You imitate other guitarists so fucking much that you'll never develop as an individual musician.

4. You think you're hot shit when you can't play. You know that faggot from My Chemical Romance? Or, well, both of them? They might play for a shitty pop-rock band, but I'd bet all my guitars that they're better than you.

5. You play with no emotion. Fuck you all. No matter if you're shredding, playing the blues, or rock or funk or whatever. You all sound so fucking stale, learn to communicate you musically illiterate fuckwits.

6. You can't read standard notation. What kind of musician can't fucking read standard notation? You, evidently. Fuck you.

Guitarists are the worst musicians. Ever.

This was the result of spending too much time on a guitar forum with people who were so insecure about their skills that they had to attack others and other genres whenever possible. I don't really think this way about guitarists, but there's an inkling of truth to this.
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Post by: Tehz on 06 May 2009, 13:02
Me getting Mr. Met isn't quite set in stone, but I'm currently trying to arrange something with Neale. Hopefully things will work out in my favor.
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Post by: doombilly on 07 May 2009, 05:28
Um... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatgU0Scr6o&feature=related
UR GTR IS 2 POINTY
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 May 2009, 06:11
OH GOD YOU'RE GETTING THE MR. MET TELE?

WELL DONE, SIR.

(It may be known already that I am a huge Mets fan)

Yeah, you've told me that. I'm not really a Mets fan, but that sticker looks so rad on that guitar.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 07 May 2009, 06:48
Um... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatgU0Scr6o&feature=related
UR GTR IS 2 POINTY

That thing hurts my eyes to look at.
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Post by: Ballard on 07 May 2009, 09:31
And has pretty shitty tone.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 09:39
Um... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatgU0Scr6o&feature=related
UR GTR IS 2 POINTY

That thing hurts my eyes to look at.

He looks like he's in danger of hurting his eyes too, with that upper bout.
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Post by: Thrillho on 07 May 2009, 11:54
Hi, guys. I recently rediscovered an old blog post I made in a mostly-joking fashion, and I thought you guys might be amused:

Quote
Fuck you, guitarists. You are collectively my least favourite kind of musician (except for drummers) because:

1. You are such competitive assholes that it gets in the way of playing good music.

2. You're obsessed with your own fucking idea of "good" music and the true path of guitar playing that you can't open your mind to other paths, and thus hamstring yourselves as musicians.

3. You imitate other guitarists so fucking much that you'll never develop as an individual musician.

4. You think you're hot shit when you can't play. You know that faggot from My Chemical Romance? Or, well, both of them? They might play for a shitty pop-rock band, but I'd bet all my guitars that they're better than you.

5. You play with no emotion. Fuck you all. No matter if you're shredding, playing the blues, or rock or funk or whatever. You all sound so fucking stale, learn to communicate you musically illiterate fuckwits.

6. You can't read standard notation. What kind of musician can't fucking read standard notation? You, evidently. Fuck you.

Guitarists are the worst musicians. Ever.

This was the result of spending too much time on a guitar forum with people who were so insecure about their skills that they had to attack others and other genres whenever possible. I don't really think this way about guitarists, but there's an inkling of truth to this.

Most if not all of those are true of a lot of people I know, and are part of the reasoning why I don't refer to myself as a 'guitarist' much any more, so much as someone who plays guitar.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 May 2009, 16:19
And has pretty shitty tone.

I actually quite disagree, I really like the way that thing sounds.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 07 May 2009, 20:37
Most if not all of those are true of a lot of people I know, and are part of the reasoning why I don't refer to myself as a 'guitarist' much any more, so much as someone who plays guitar.

We agree on something.

This comforts me.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 21:21
So, I'm probably going to buy that Telecaster tomorrow.  I'm pretty excited.  I don't think I'm going to get much for my Strat, though since I scratched the piss out of the finish.  :|  I wish I could get 'em out by myself.
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Post by: Bearer on 07 May 2009, 21:24
(http://www.mijnalbum.nl/GroteFoto-MZWUP44W.jpg)
yes, it's a full hollow body.

It's being built by member oigun at the tdpri forums (http://www.tdpri.com)
Heres the link to the topic: http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/160819-thintelemaster.html
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 21:35
(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyphh.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 May 2009, 21:43
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1003/3164799758_735db0680f.jpg)
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Post by: Ballard on 07 May 2009, 23:29
Holy flaming bastard semi-hollow Jag-caster Batman.

Also I think flamed tops are not tasteful. I challenge someone to prove me wrong.

They are beautiful in the sense that flamed wood finishes look pretty cool but in combination with the rest of the components that make up a guitar they are overkill and never look nice.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 May 2009, 23:34
Yeah.  That's the only thing I don't like about that guitar.  Flamed tops only look good on sunburst jazz guitars, I think.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 May 2009, 05:46
I don't think I'm going to get much for my Strat, though since I scratched the piss out of the finish.  :|  I wish I could get 'em out by myself.

PM me, dude. Is that the blue MIM guy? If you're willing to hold on to it a few months (at least 3) I'd be willing to snag this from you after I buy that hollowbody from Pat (pacafeliz) on OSG. I want to have a stock Strat again. I'll probably spraypaint it similar to what I did to my Squier, but eh :D

Also, Gene, that is not a flamed maple top, it is quilted. lern2wood
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 May 2009, 07:09
No, it's a Made In Korea Squire.  Red sparkle.  You're thinking of someone else.
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Post by: Ballard on 08 May 2009, 11:11
Suck me dry Patrick James they are both ugly.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 May 2009, 17:36
Considering the lack of satisfaction the both of us have been experiencing, you shouldn't even joke about that shit, Eugene Gurvich. Anyway, I agree in the vast majority of cases. I'd LOVE to see Gibson start using non-figured maple in their guitar tops, because it's not like pristine, flawlessly bookmatched grade AAAAA flame maple makes the fucker sound better.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 May 2009, 20:43
Pulled the trigger on that semi-hollow Tele I posted a page or two back.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 May 2009, 22:13
Alright... so I have a confession to make:

I own a VG strat.

I know, I know, it's so uncool.  But I have plenty of 'real' guitars.  I'm quite comfortable in owning a gimmick.  I got to tell you though... even though about half of the modeled sounds aren't worth a shit, (especially the accoustic ones) the half that are make that guitar a whole lot of fun to play.  I'm considering the 24 hours to record an album thing...  If I do, don't be surprised if you hear songs go from like 12 string to Open G in the same song.

Back to goofing off.

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Post by: valley_parade on 09 May 2009, 07:20
I hate you, GAS.

I want a Les Paul. A proper Les Paul. Carved top, set neck, humbuckers, that whole deal. Even an Epi studio would do the trick right now. I'm not even sure WHY I want one, but I do.
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 May 2009, 14:02
We agree on something.

This comforts me.

Bit bizarre that. We never agree on anything.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 09 May 2009, 14:11
I'm not a guitarist, I'm a musician. Guitar just happens to be my main instrument.
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 May 2009, 16:05
We care. A guitarist, in my eyes, is someone who plays guitar for their main, chosen instrument. Never mind if they play others, the guitar is what they play because they love playing guitar.

For me, every instrument is just a means to an end. I don't play guitar for the love of guitar, I play guitar for the love of music.
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Post by: Patrick on 09 May 2009, 17:24
"OH NOES, A CERTAIN WORD THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COINCIDENTALLY IDIOTS ALSO APPLIES TO ME, I MUST COMPLETELY REDEFINE MYSELF TO MAINTAIN COOL CRED"

I am with Jens, I hate that kind of shit. Let's just talk about our damn guitars, alright?

Today, I realized that playing nothing but chords on a guitar is infinitely more expressive than doing so on a piano. Fuck you, Elton John, my Jaguar hereby trumps your Steinway and is probably a tenth of the price.

(all due respect to Elton John, who is as technically skilled a pianist as you will probably ever find, I just don't like piano very much)
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Post by: sean on 09 May 2009, 18:55
hey guys i play two instruments what does that make me

er

fuck where did that trex smiley go i need it right now fuck
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 May 2009, 23:48
I play three.

Oh shit, you guys.

oh shit
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 May 2009, 01:36
hey guys i play two instruments what does that make me

er

fuck where did that trex smiley go i need it right now fuck
http://www.qwantz.com/forum/images/smiles/trex-omg.gif
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Post by: squawk on 10 May 2009, 02:05
Today, I realized that playing nothing but chords on a guitar is infinitely more expressive than doing so on a piano

hate to do this in THE GUITAR TOPIC! but
not really dude

although i guess it depends on who's playing the chords on what too.
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Post by: Thrillho on 10 May 2009, 07:53
"OH NOES, A CERTAIN WORD THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COINCIDENTALLY IDIOTS ALSO APPLIES TO ME, I MUST COMPLETELY REDEFINE MYSELF TO MAINTAIN COOL CRED"

Pat, you know me better than that.

Today, I realized that playing nothing but chords on a guitar is infinitely more expressive than doing so on a piano.

...That's just outright bollocks.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 May 2009, 10:27
No I'd agree. Playing rhythm piano is boring unless you're arpeggiating your chords or your voice is beautiful enough to make up for the simple accompaniment.

With guitar, as long as you're not just strumming up and down in a harsh, flat way, chords can be very expressive.

This post brought to you by: gene is strung out and just woke up!
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Post by: BlahBlah on 10 May 2009, 11:24
Guys, I built my own guitar over the weekend!

The total price for all the parts was about £30, and I managed to get most of them on eBay. The body is a strat one, but whoever had it before did some really weird things to it. The action was crazily high, and it has a brass bridge that has been screwed down so the tremolo arm can only dive. I've managed to fix the intonation and lower the action but for some reason the B string resonates a lot - it sounds like a sitar string. Surprisingly, the neck is really nice.

As for the electronics, I used three old pickups. I've no idea who made them or what they're meant to be but they sound ace. The neck one is a layered strat-size humbucker. It's seriously loud. I used this ( http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm ) wiring configuration. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to change the sound of their guitar, it has an amazing range. Mine is pretty messed up though, since I only had one capacitor so the tone knobs also effect t he volume, but depending on whether it's in parallel or serial mode they have to be turned in different directions.

It's pretty cool.
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Post by: sean on 10 May 2009, 12:00
man what are you guys on playing lonely chords on a piano is so fucking awesome.
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Post by: sean on 10 May 2009, 12:02
i play bass and thingamagoop (http://bleeplabs.com/thingamagoop/customize/)

i remember that thing from the photothread

what the fuck does it do?
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Post by: Lummer on 10 May 2009, 13:15
I'm not a guitarist, I'm a musician. Guitar just happens to be my main instrument.

That really is a quite curious sentence. I know, it's supposed to distance you from us pretentious pricks that call ourselves "Guitarists" or God Forbid, "LEAD Guitarists", but it just ends up making anyone who says it come off as more pretentious. Why is that so?
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Post by: Patrick on 10 May 2009, 17:49
"OH NOES, A CERTAIN WORD THAT TYPICALLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO ARE COINCIDENTALLY IDIOTS ALSO APPLIES TO ME, I MUST COMPLETELY REDEFINE MYSELF TO MAINTAIN COOL CRED"

Pat, you know me better than that.

I know, and it wasn't aimed at you, man, don't worry. I just hate it when people turn that kind of innocent-enough thing into an "OMG ME TOO, im too kool 4 this" clusterfuck.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 10 May 2009, 20:11
That really is a quite curious sentence. I know, it's supposed to distance you from us pretentious pricks that call ourselves "Guitarists" or God Forbid, "LEAD Guitarists", but it just ends up making anyone who says it come off as more pretentious. Why is that so?

It sounds pretentious when you say it, but it's an awesome way to think about music as it influences you to play music with less limitation than music restricted by the conventions of the guitar.

On the other hand, I completely acknowledge that I'm a prick lead guitarist. /shreddin'
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Post by: zerobar on 11 May 2009, 00:09
Guys, I built my own guitar over the weekend!

The total price for all the parts was about £30, and I managed to get most of them on eBay. The body is a strat one, but whoever had it before did some really weird things to it. The action was crazily high, and it has a brass bridge that has been screwed down so the tremolo arm can only dive. I've managed to fix the intonation and lower the action but for some reason the B string resonates a lot - it sounds like a sitar string. Surprisingly, the neck is really nice.

As for the electronics, I used three old pickups. I've no idea who made them or what they're meant to be but they sound ace. The neck one is a layered strat-size humbucker. It's seriously loud. I used this ( http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm ) wiring configuration. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to change the sound of their guitar, it has an amazing range. Mine is pretty messed up though, since I only had one capacitor so the tone knobs also effect t he volume, but depending on whether it's in parallel or serial mode they have to be turned in different directions.

It's pretty cool.

Awesome, post pictures of it!

In response to the B string problem, it could be a few things. How did you adjust the action? Did you use a feeler gauge? If you're working on guitars, I highly suggest getting one. They're very cheap and you can get them at most hardware stores  (normally used for checking spark plugs). It really helps with action and truss rod adjustment, since you can get EXACT measurements. Not necessary, but makes it alot easier.

My first guess would be the action is too low on that string. If raising the action doesn't solve the problem, then it could be a loose screw vibrating. Make sure everything's down tight, especially the saddle adjusters and the tuners. If that doesn't solve it, then it's likely that the nut is filed too low, and the string is hitting the first fret. There's really only one way to surefire fix this, and that's replacing the nut. You can either buy a nut blank, a set of files, and do it yourself, or go to a luthier and have them do it (probably cheaper and quicker, but you don't feel the same satisfaction). The best way to make sure that it's not the first fret is to have everything adjusted and tightened down and then fret the string at the first fret. if it doesn't buzz, then that's it.

Hope this helps, I'll be getting into my guitar building here soon, too. I'll try and thin out my unfinished projects (Kramer/Fender focus/strat, Kramer/Fender tele/baretta hybrid, relic tele project, and if I have time the Epiphone Coronet one off)
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Post by: doombilly on 12 May 2009, 08:03
hey guys i play two instruments what does that make me

er

fuck where did that trex smiley go i need it right now fuck

BI-CURIOUS

I play three.

Oh shit, you guys.

oh shit
TRY-SECKSHUAL

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Post by: Ballard on 12 May 2009, 08:25
ITT: doombilly returns and is still ace
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2009, 13:34
I'm not a guitarist, I'm a musician. Guitar just happens to be my main instrument.

That really is a quite curious sentence. I know, it's supposed to distance you from us pretentious pricks that call ourselves "Guitarists" or God Forbid, "LEAD Guitarists", but it just ends up making anyone who says it come off as more pretentious. Why is that so?

Because guitar is boring.

Srsly.

Okay, guitar is pretty kick ass. But I want waaaay more than just guitar. I'm seriously working on violin right now and want to get up to snuff on that so that I can say that violin and guitar are my two main instruments. I'm buying a bouzouki soon and will practice the hell out of it. I am a musician, and guitar just happened to be the first instrument I picked up because it is so readily accessible, easily played, and so many people can help me on it.

Mentioning help:

I am trying to put a new high E-string on my electric, but it keeps twanging. That is, I start to tune it, and then it suddenly gets insanely loose again, then I tune it so that it's slightly taut, then it gets loose again. What is going on I am freaking out here because I can't afford new strings.

Also, I took this string off of my acoustic to put on my electric, but I have done this often and this hasn't happened.
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Post by: Lummer on 12 May 2009, 13:52
You just need to learn to put the strings on properly, so that they "lock" around the tuning peg. It's nigh-on impossible to explain how to do it in writing, though.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2009, 14:05
I know how to put on the strings, I've been doing it for almost three years and I have never had this problem before.
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Post by: Patrick on 12 May 2009, 17:30
Mentioning help:

I am trying to put a new high E-string on my electric, but it keeps twanging. That is, I start to tune it, and then it suddenly gets insanely loose again, then I tune it so that it's slightly taut, then it gets loose again. What is going on I am freaking out here because I can't afford new strings.

Also, I took this string off of my acoustic to put on my electric, but I have done this often and this hasn't happened.

Maybe the winding near the ball end is coming undone. That happened on my Jag maybe 2 string sets ago. The winding around the ball end might be coming back up through the 'noose' knot where they wrap the string around itself to keep it from coming apart completely if this exact thing happens.

Take a good look at where the 'noose' knot is on this string as compared to the other strings. If it's closer to the tailpiece than the rest of your strings, you've got the culprit right there. Harmless in the long run, but it's a pain in the ass retuning every time until it finally decides there's no more slack to eat up.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 13 May 2009, 01:41
I'm just going to wait and not play guitar for a few days until I get paid and can buy strings

That sentence hurt to even write
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Post by: Lummer on 13 May 2009, 11:42
I know how to put on the strings, I've been doing it for almost three years and I have never had this problem before.

I know, but if you did it properly, that problem would never occur.

Thankfully, I found a guide:

http://www.fretnotguitarrepair.com/stringing.htm

Just do this, and all troubles will be GONE!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 13 May 2009, 13:15
Well, you could just play violin instead, silly.

I'm going to. This one song I'm working on feel a little...boring...so I'll just spend time arranging violin for it.

@Lummox - I think the problem is that the string is a bit too short to properly take hold. :|
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Post by: Ballard on 13 May 2009, 15:51
That is actually the same guide I looked up years ago when I learned to string and it was pretty useful 'cause until then I couldn't figure out how the fuck to lock in a string.
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Post by: edwinalink on 13 May 2009, 18:21
what the shit is the differance in duncan designed and EMG's on shecters?

...

shit, i just wish i had a guitar... well, one thats NOT a warlock...
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Post by: imapiratearg on 13 May 2009, 19:39
Duncan Designed means they're made by Seymour Duncan (and probably pretty ace, too), and EMG means it's got a set of EMG active pickups, which are battery powered.  Unless EMG makes a passive pickup and I don't know about it...
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Post by: Cernunnos on 13 May 2009, 19:45
The duncan-designed pickups are built in Korea, wheras the rest of their line is USA made. EMG actually does produce passive pickups, but chances are if he's looking at a Schecter they are probably active.
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Post by: edwinalink on 13 May 2009, 21:17
The duncan-designed pickups are built in Korea, wheras the rest of their line is USA made. EMG actually does produce passive pickups, but chances are if he's looking at a Schecter they are probably active.

Duncan Designed means they're made by Seymour Duncan (and probably pretty ace, too), and EMG means it's got a set of EMG active pickups, which are battery powered.  Unless EMG makes a passive pickup and I don't know about it...

is there a way to know whats a better choice for me (beginner trying to learn alt/goth/doom/whatever metal and rock)???

I just dont want to be stuck with a pretty pile of crap again...
and i want to stay under a grand....
so from my previous posts in this thread I have arrived at Schecter as my main brand.

and I'm looking at C-1 hellraisers and blood moons, and damien-6 (though the mark up on the damien for a left version seems to be 200 bucks, whereas the C-1 lefty's have a 50 buck mark up in most places.)

looks matter slightly, and NO tremolos... i just... I NEED to spend my money a little more wisely this time...
and I have no clue what all those pick-up's excell/fail at...

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Post by: E. Spaceman on 13 May 2009, 21:58
get the pointiest guitar you can find.
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Post by: Bearer on 13 May 2009, 22:04
So, I recently acquired the blueprints for a Jazzmaster, and am seriously considering making one (though a proper one at that), or getting a shit one off ebay and imagining it.  Thinking a P90, single coil, and a humbucker as the three pickups (in that order, neck to bridge) with a 3 way switch wired to the neck and bridge, and the single coil wired to a blender knob.  Perhaps throw a Bigsby on there for good measure.  I like my guitars to be eclectic as fuck, make all sorts of crazy sounds.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 13 May 2009, 22:43
Stuff.

You can't really go wrong with Schecter.  I've played one of their S-1's (an SG-type guitar) and enjoyed the hell out of it, and their Tempest guitars look really promising.
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Post by: edwinalink on 13 May 2009, 23:43
Stuff.

You can't really go wrong with Schecter.  I've played one of their S-1's (an SG-type guitar) and enjoyed the hell out of it, and their Tempest guitars look really promising.

yeah, thats the direction you guys pointed me last time! thanks for that! I'm looking for a tad nicer than the S-1's I've seen, the C-1's seem to come in every flavor and price... and the 006's are just pretty (though they seem to have the same quality of guts as my B.C. Rich NJ warlock)

now just point me to "guitar pick-ups for dummies" and I'll be good to go!

P.S.

I have sworn off pointy guitars... possibly forever!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 May 2009, 00:31
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)
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Post by: edwinalink on 14 May 2009, 01:15
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)

personally?

it wont stay in tune, the tremolo was/still is undersprung, my crossover knob only kinda worked, the paint was dull, the neck floppy(even after repeated adjustments by people much smarter than me) it chipped incredibly easy, my pick ups seemed to only be capable of pumping out atonal distortion. there was this horrible buzz when it was set as clean as i could get it. with small amounts of gentle use my top strap bolt came out...

and it just sounds like shit.

but I am no expert, that was just my experience. :-(
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Post by: MadassAlex on 14 May 2009, 04:00
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)

They are just plain old poor guitars. B.C Rich make some lovely top-range axes, but so does every other company.

The only thing Warlocks are good for is metal and they're not actually good for that, either. You're better off with an Ibanez or a Schecter or an ESP or an Epiphone or an anything ever.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 May 2009, 05:40
Emg's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMG,_Inc.)
They are overdriven, high-output pickups. Good for metal type things. They also require batteries, because they have a built-in preamp.

Duncan-designed humbuckers are going to be More versatile i would imagine. More traditional. Both kinds will play the kind of music it seems you want to play. read about them here. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/duncan-designed/) Keep in mind that they are essentially the bargain version, and probably are not made to the same quality as the American-made Duncans, though i have not read any reviews for them.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 May 2009, 07:18
What is wrong with a warlock?

(I'm not defending it, I am just ignorant!)

BC Rich for the most part makes absolutely hideous looking guitars.
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Post by: Ballard on 14 May 2009, 08:20
I remember a while back in this thread someone posted some super high-end B.C. Rich guitars that even I was partial to.

Personally if I were ever to play metal (and with every stoner rock record I've downloaded recently that desire has gotten stronger and stronger) I'd just invest in a gorgeous Les Paul. I don't see why the dedicated metal guitar niche exists in the first place- there are tons of more versatile guitars that would do the job quite well.

None of the original influential heavy metal bands played anything but Fender and Gibson (and in Lemmy's case, Rickenbacker).
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 May 2009, 08:50
that's mostly why I've been GASing over a Les Paul lately. I need something proper to get my stoner rock on.

Uh..I might be trading the LP Junior clone for this mid-90s Duo-Sonic. Probably will replace the pickguard if I get it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v13/Teleman027/Instruments/Photo16.jpg)

s'got a replacement neck as well. The originals were 22.5", this is a 24" Warmoth neck with the big CBS-style headstock.
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Post by: Lummer on 14 May 2009, 09:55
Did I mention how awesome my Les Paul is?
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Post by: edwinalink on 14 May 2009, 11:15
Emg's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMG,_Inc.)
They are overdriven, high-output pickups. Good for metal type things. They also require batteries, because they have a built-in preamp.

Duncan-designed humbuckers are going to be More versatile i would imagine. More traditional. Both kinds will play the kind of music it seems you want to play. read about them here. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/duncan-designed/) Keep in mind that they are essentially the bargain version, and probably are not made to the same quality as the American-made Duncans, though i have not read any reviews for them.

^thanks!^
it seems the duncan designed will be good for me to start with, then if i want to swap them out, or buy a different guitar i can at a later date....

I love the les pauls. if i was gonna spend around 1500 and up i would go for a gibson... but.

I am repeatedly told the quality is hit and miss on epiphone LP's. and since I would have to order my guitar (lefty) i could get a great one, or a pile o shit!

and since i dont really need the ULTIMATE METAL GUITAR just some thing to tool around on and learn with... I've darn near settled on a C-1... unless someone else can point me at a reputable guitar for under a grand that DOESNT require a 50/50 gamble?
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Post by: zerobar on 14 May 2009, 11:21
The easy way to tell whether or not emg's are active is if they don't say hz on them. All the hz's are passive, and are more commonly put on lower-end guitars, rather than the usually used set of active 81's and 85's. I believe that ALL EMG's are made in the USA, where as i'm pretty sure that the Duncan Designed ones are import manufacture, so I would feel that the EMG's would be a nicer pickup, and would fit what you're trying to play better. They are both actually fairly versatile, even though emg's do cater to the high gain market more, because the active one's have the ability to handle so much gain.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 May 2009, 11:23
Dammit dammit dammit the guy doesn't want another P-90 guitar.

And apparently the duo's routed for mini humbuckers. I was all set to get a black pickguard, witch hats, mini hums, and make it into a Duo-Sonic Deluxe..Duo-Blaster?
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Post by: zerobar on 14 May 2009, 11:27
Emg's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMG,_Inc.)
They are overdriven, high-output pickups. Good for metal type things. They also require batteries, because they have a built-in preamp.

Duncan-designed humbuckers are going to be More versatile i would imagine. More traditional. Both kinds will play the kind of music it seems you want to play. read about them here. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/duncan-designed/) Keep in mind that they are essentially the bargain version, and probably are not made to the same quality as the American-made Duncans, though i have not read any reviews for them.

^thanks!^
it seems the duncan designed will be good for me to start with, then if i want to swap them out, or buy a different guitar i can at a later date....

It's a shame you bought a NJ series B.C. Rich, cause some of their newer stuff (Exotic class mockingbird, Perfect 10 Bich, ST mockingbird) actually seem pretty nice. They're some of the only guitar's you can get new under a grand now, with ebony fretboards. It kinda seems like they've started to realize that their old pointy guitars are kinda crap.

I love the les pauls. if i was gonna spend around 1500 and up i would go for a gibson... but.

I am repeatedly told the quality is hit and miss on epiphone LP's. and since I would have to order my guitar (lefty) i could get a great one, or a pile o shit!

and since i dont really need the ULTIMATE METAL GUITAR just some thing to tool around on and learn with... I've darn near settled on a C-1... unless someone else can point me at a reputable guitar for under a grand that DOESNT require a 50/50 gamble?

It's a shame you got one of the NJ series B.C. Rich's, some of their newer stuff (Exotic Class Mockingbird, Perfect 10 Bich, ST Mockingbird) actually seems pretty nice. Some of the only guitars under a grand you can get with ebony fingerboards. Seems like they're starting to remember why people bought their guitars in the first place.
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Post by: edwinalink on 14 May 2009, 11:35
The easy way to tell whether or not emg's are active is if they don't say hz on them. All the hz's are passive, and are more commonly put on lower-end guitars, rather than the usually used set of active 81's and 85's. I believe that ALL EMG's are made in the USA, where as i'm pretty sure that the Duncan Designed ones are import manufacture, so I would feel that the EMG's would be a nicer pickup, and would fit what you're trying to play better. They are both actually fairly versatile, even though emg's do cater to the high gain market more, because the active one's have the ability to handle so much gain.

thanks! I think i may have seen a few of the EMG-hz's on what I'm looking at...and the powered ones arent a dealbreaker either!
and as long as i can play clean, mellow mopey stuff with them too... that's all i need!

and back to the Warlock bashing... i tried playing smoke on the water...sounded like

BUZZZ, BUZZ-BUZZ BUUUUZZZZZZ BUZZZ. BUZZ BUZZ in the sky..

god i hate that thing, not that smoke on the water normally sounds all that good...but it at least has notes!

edit... @Zerobar: its OLD now! still has the split headstock! and they may get better, but i couldnt afford a new guitar after buying that POS. and have had to wait for like 4 years to get another guitar i could actually practice on! so now me and B.C. Rich dont mix.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 14 May 2009, 12:23
Here's a picture of that guitar I put together:

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9890/img3806.jpg)
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Post by: ledhendrix on 14 May 2009, 12:28
That looks nice. What do all the switches do?
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Post by: BlahBlah on 14 May 2009, 12:43
The three in the middle turn each pickup on or off. The one on the far right switches from in phase to out of phase, and the other end switch changes from series to parallel circuits. Like this: http://www.1728.com/guitar2.htm

However, I only discovered after building it that I missed out a capacitor, so the switching is really messed up. The tone knobs now function as volume knobs, but depending on whether you're in series or parallel mode they have to be turned in different directions.  It sounds pretty awesome/strange/horrible. I think Patrick would cream himself over it, based on his comments about single-coil guitars and the Jaguar he already has.
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Post by: zerobar on 14 May 2009, 15:19
Cool, how's the intonation on it? I kinda figured you had bought a kit, but this looks like it probably would work better. I love putting together old "parts" guitars, they usually end up sounding really cool, and they always look interesting. Kramer, among other companies, did a similar style pickup switching on their guitars in the mid to late 80's by having an on/off switch for each pickup, and then a coil splitting switch for the bridge humbucker. They used it primarily on their Pacer series and the Focus 6000's, which were japanese made Pacer copies (great deals, if you find one.) The Focus' were all made by ESP, who ended up making all of Kramer's necks from about 86' on (which are AMAZING).
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Post by: Patrick on 16 May 2009, 17:24
I think Patrick would cream himself over it, based on his comments about single-coil guitars and the Jaguar he already has.

I just saw this thread for the first time in several days (been busy) but yeah, if you ever let me chill at your place or something, you will probably never see this guitar in person ever again.
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Post by: Bearer on 18 May 2009, 22:00
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Andy_jag.jpg)

Alas, it is but a photoshop guitar.   Three pickups (neck: P-90; mid: single coil; bridge: Humbucker), neck and bridge wired to telecaster three-way switch with middle wired to a blender pot. Master volume knob, master tone knob, and top it off with a Bigsby, tune-o-matic bridge with rolling saddles and locking tuning heads.  Mmmm.
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Post by: Ballard on 18 May 2009, 22:14
That is pretty sexy.

Side note: I have rarely seen different kinds of pick-ups look good together (with the exception of the Standard, Hot Rod, and Custom configurations on various Teles)

That one isn't bad but like, I like the symmetry that comes with all single-coils or all 'buckers or soapbars.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 May 2009, 03:22
Why don't you just take a Mustang bridge and leave a regular old Jag trem on there? A Bigsby is actually a downgrade in terms of functionality.

Does that switch go 7 ways? I hope it does. I have Ideas for it.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 19 May 2009, 03:37
"telecaster three-way switch"

I didn't know you could even get 7-way switches.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 May 2009, 04:24
Oh, it looked like a Varitone-style switch. Those are 6-way switches, I figured there might be a 7-way Varitone-style switch available somewhere in the world.
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Post by: zerobar on 23 May 2009, 01:06
So I'm REALLY considering putting the Coronet project on hold, for now, and spending my money on a MIJ Contemporary Strat my local shop has. They're marking down, and it's really nice. Plus, those 80's MIJ strats are supposed to be better than the American ones, of the same time. Rumor is, that's why they quit importing them from Japan. It's royal blue with a maple neck and fretboard. The previous owner replaced the frets with jumbos, which I actually like. Thoughts?
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Post by: Bearer on 24 May 2009, 17:37
So I'm REALLY considering putting the Coronet project on hold, for now, and spending my money on a MIJ Contemporary Strat my local shop has. They're marking down, and it's really nice. Plus, those 80's MIJ strats are supposed to be better than the American ones, of the same time. Rumor is, that's why they quit importing them from Japan. It's royal blue with a maple neck and fretboard. The previous owner replaced the frets with jumbos, which I actually like. Thoughts?
quoted for truth.  My dad has an 80's MIJ Squier Strat and it's better than a few American Fenders I've played.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 May 2009, 07:52
The 80s MIJ Squiers were pretty much the quality you get out of Fender Japan these days.

(read: GOOD)
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 25 May 2009, 22:04
What exactly does wiring your pickups out of phase do? I've never heard of that outside of this thread.
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Post by: Bearer on 26 May 2009, 09:31
Wired out of phase gives the difference between the two pickups.  However, if you were to do this on a guitar with two similar pickups (like a telecaster) the sound would usually be very nasally and nearly unuseable.  Out of phase is best used in a guitar with different pickups.  I have a telecaster with a mini-humbucker in the neck position and a push/pull volume knob that changes the phase, and the sound I get from throwing it out of phase is really qui9te nice.  Very chimey and quacky, kind of like positions 2&4 on a strat.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 May 2009, 13:43
ok, so I've no money to spend on it but after I get the warmoth neck I want on my MIM Tele, what (non-trem) bridge shouyld I go for. I'm looking for lo-fi, inexpensive and solid reliable. My tele does not have the string through thingees. Also I am likely to opt for P-Rails for my pickup choice.
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Post by: Chad K. on 26 May 2009, 14:16
Wilkinson compensated is about $30 and gets rave reviews from tele purists.  Try http://www.guitarfetish.com

Edit:  Here's the direct link, but look around that site if you haven't; it's good stuff- http://store.guitarfetish.com/wicotebrbrsa.html
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Post by: doombilly on 27 May 2009, 06:22
Looks great, but would I not have to mod that to fit the bridge P-Rail?
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Post by: greenMonkey on 27 May 2009, 20:00
There is a possibility that I will be picking up a Fender Champ 600 for college.  Dano+Boss Super Overdrive+Champ 600= WIN.
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Post by: zerobar on 27 May 2009, 21:02
Looks great, but would I not have to mod that to fit the bridge P-Rail?

Yeah, it wouldn't fit in a wilkinson bridge. You'd either have to use a standard fender hardtail, a tunomatic with stop tail (though drilling for string through really wouldn't be that hard) or something like this: http://store.guitarfetish.com/chhubrforteg.html

I know it's not pretty, but you'd get better intonation than the wilkinson.

Is your body routed for a humbucker already?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 May 2009, 06:03
What are you guys' opinion on MODboards? I've never tried them so i want to know.
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Post by: doombilly on 28 May 2009, 08:37
Is your body routed for a humbucker already?

No I am going from memory that the cavities neck cavity seemed pretty large... But yeah now that you mention it that would require some routing for the hbuckerss, no?

edit...also
Um....
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3645/3565068502_3e14cb5805_o.jpg
Looks like you should have a neck coming out the front and the back.
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Post by: zerobar on 28 May 2009, 09:55
^haha, well, to be fair, I don't know how else you could put a trapese bridge on a BillyBo.

If you just have a regular tele route, you will need to route for a humbucker, including cavities for the "wings." It's honestly not SUPER important that the route be PERFECT, since alot of small mistakes will be covered by the bridge or pickguard. Just make sure you don't go beyond either of them.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 28 May 2009, 10:06
Someone gave me an old Johnson acoustic/electric guitar with no hardware (just the body and neck) and it's fairly beat up. So I filled in some of the bigger gouges with wood filler, spray-painted it silver, and drew on it and put song lyrics on it and now it just looks happily strange.

It used to be black, then someone spray-painted it this hideous pink/purple and it made me throw up a little in my mouth. Now it has Billy Joe Shaver and John Lennon lyrics on it.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 28 May 2009, 13:57
I just got a Big White Monkey 5W Kong Head! I can't wait for it to arrive.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 May 2009, 14:59
I played a handmade Collings acoustic last night. The guy who owned it replaced the bone saddle with a piece of unspecified wood (truth be told, I think it was just a piece of fucking driftwood), and I'll be damned if that wasn't the best-sounding acoustic I've ever heard. It also played like the gods.

Update: it was this guy, with a cutaway: http://www.collingsguitars.com/Instruments/?ID=9
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Post by: Babpacih on 28 May 2009, 18:51
hello all. so heres some pics of my stuff... since that seems to be the order of the topic.
(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/babpacih/waka%20waka%20waka/IMG_4373.jpg?t=1243559922)
the current playing rig... fenderbassman, gibson les paul studio.

(http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo243/babpacih/waka%20waka%20waka/IMG_4372.jpg?t=1243559920)
Fender DG-8S NAT, Ibanez Stagestar, Fender Tele, Oscar Schmidt

i have one more guitar than in the pics, its a Crate Electra. i lent it to a friend to learn guitar on. its covered in stickers, ill try to find a pic later.
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Post by: negative creep on 28 May 2009, 19:02
Nice! What is the pedal in the first picture? Boss SD-1?
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Post by: Babpacih on 28 May 2009, 19:57
Thanks yo,
its a Boss OS-2, the other one is a Zoom 505II
its a cool pedal, though i bought it with the tele more in mind.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 May 2009, 23:04
Holy silverface Bassman, Batman!
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Post by: imapiratearg on 29 May 2009, 08:37
That's what I thought.  I stared at it for a full two minutes.

It's a thing of beauty.
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Post by: Chad K. on 29 May 2009, 09:31
Is that a 2x12 or 2x15 cab?
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Post by: Babpacih on 29 May 2009, 12:02
yeah its a really sweet amp. VERY loud. ive never played louder than almost 4 with a band. it could use power tubes. next birthday present!
i honestly have no idea if the cabs 2x12 or 2x15. the place i got it from had no info on it. but ill check if you know how to find out.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 May 2009, 15:16
Tape measure over one of the speakers.
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Post by: Babpacih on 29 May 2009, 15:49
i was goin for not taking it apart.
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 29 May 2009, 19:59
Ok guys, so I like guitar, but I know shit all about pedals and the like. What's a really good fuzz pedal that's out there?
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Post by: Tehz on 29 May 2009, 20:08
I started out with an EHX Big Muff, and I think that everyone who's looking for a good starter fuzz should start with the same.
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Post by: Tehz on 29 May 2009, 20:12
Oh and also, I had a realization today. I went to a local guitar place and played literally close to two dozen guitars, and I dunno what was going on but I couldn't find one that I could really bond with. I went home and sat down with my CIJ Jazzmaster and it felt like home, it felt and sounded perfect to me. In fact, one of the few guitars that I did play at the store that I almost connected with was an Elvis Costello Jazzy.

I think I'm gonna start to be just like Kevin Shields or Thurston Moore and just start buying and playing nothing but a variety of Jazzmasters. For me, they're pretty much the perfect instrument, and it took me until today to fully realize that.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 29 May 2009, 21:16
Jazzmasters are pretty wonderful.

I still love a good tele though.  And by a good tele I mean this one. (http://www.glguitars.com/Tribute/instruments/pics/large/GLTS_ASAT_Classic_BBSH_CLRORG_MP.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 May 2009, 04:12
That is one weirdass headstock.
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Post by: Caspian on 30 May 2009, 17:18
On an amplification related note; just got pro tools, and I gotta say I'm really impressed by how decent the SansAmp plug in is. Granted it's not terribly amazing at doing semi-clean tones, but since I pretty much never need a semi clean tones it's no big deal. It's great for wall of sound type stuff and for tones with no sort of distortion or break up, although this could possibly be because I'm playing a Les Paul and it could sound awesome played through a telephone line.

If anyone could  a) recommend me some other good amp sims (thinking of getting Digidesign's Eleven), or b) tell me places where I can "acquire" amp sims for free off the internet then that would be great.
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Post by: Ballard on 30 May 2009, 19:48
That cab looks like a 4x10. If it's an open cab you can still measure the speakers from the back if you care enough to bother.

Jazzmasters are pretty wonderful.

I still love a good tele though.  And by a good tele I mean this one. (http://www.glguitars.com/Tribute/instruments/pics/large/GLTS_ASAT_Classic_BBSH_CLRORG_MP.jpg)

That's not even a Tele, silly.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 May 2009, 20:01
It's a tele, but not a telecaster. Besides, I'm pretty sure Leo designed the damn thing for g&l anyways. might be wrong about that, though.
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Post by: Babpacih on 30 May 2009, 21:14
the tele was by leo for fender.
first called the esquire, then the broadcaster, then the telecaster.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 May 2009, 21:17
That cab looks like a 4x10. If it's an open cab you can still measure the speakers from the back if you care enough to bother.

Jazzmasters are pretty wonderful.

I still love a good tele though.  And by a good tele I mean this one. (http://www.glguitars.com/Tribute/instruments/pics/large/GLTS_ASAT_Classic_BBSH_CLRORG_MP.jpg)

That's not even a Tele, silly.

That is most definitely not a 4x10.  You can see the two speakers set diagonally; my guess is a 2x12.

And though it is not a Telecaster, it counts as a tele in my book because a) it's styled after the tele body, neck, headstock, etc., and b) Leo Fender designed it.  G & L is basically Fender+.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 May 2009, 07:16
Yeah, but for all purposeful reasons it's an ASAT. Though I believe when G&L first started, he went with "Broadcaster". To which Gretsch (and Fender) went "Dude Leo, you tried that like 40 years ago, remember? NO."
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Post by: Cernunnos on 31 May 2009, 07:42
Whatever the case, I really would like to have that guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 May 2009, 08:16
Ughhhhhh I've been listening to so much Weezer lately. My current GAS: build a clone of one of Rivers' hardtail Stratclones (either the first daphne blue one or the blonde one).
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Post by: Metope on 01 Jun 2009, 06:31
You know what guitar i like the best?
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Post by: Metope on 01 Jun 2009, 06:32
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e263/blooper663/il_430xN68917530.jpg)

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e263/blooper663/il_430xN68917470.jpg)
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Post by: BlahBlah on 01 Jun 2009, 06:46
Wow. Just, wow.
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Post by: Tyler on 01 Jun 2009, 07:09
I would serve pizza on that.
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Post by: Babpacih on 01 Jun 2009, 08:04
the tuning pegs on that make me wet.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Jun 2009, 11:43
It probably has great sustain.
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Post by: edwinalink on 01 Jun 2009, 12:20
I wonder if she likes miniature golf...
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Post by: GenericName on 01 Jun 2009, 12:21
Reminds me of the guitar I painted, if only for the similar sectioning off.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 12:50
That is either a really thick neck, really small body, or both.

I'm curious what kind of alternate tunings y'all like to use? Lately I've been using EBEG#BE (Open E), FADGBE, and BFDGBE.

I need a damn seven string guitar.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jun 2009, 12:59
Guys, I think that after I buy that hollowbody off of the really rad dude from OSG, I'm going to get a Tele neck, get all the electronics and shit, and make Guitar Mill make me a butterscotch blonde body out of pine.

I basically don't think I'd ever need another hardtail guitar after that. Then add a Strat to the mix, buy back my old SG (my friend says he'll sell her back to me!), and I will be done collecting guitars.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 01 Jun 2009, 13:02
That is either a really thick neck, really small body, or both.

I'm curious what kind of alternate tunings y'all like to use? Lately I've been using EBEG#BE (Open E), FADGBE, and BFDGBE.

I need a damn seven string guitar.


The Pavement ones:

DADABe and CGDGBE (also used by Sonic Youth)

My guitar is probably in those more than Standard.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Jun 2009, 13:19
done collecting guitars.

that's not how it works
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Post by: Tehz on 01 Jun 2009, 14:37
I'm a fan of F#F#F#F#BE. This was used on a lot of my favorite SY songs, so it's fun experimenting with it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 14:47
Which way do you tune your D string? Really taut, or really loose?

Mm. That would produce very nice fret buzz.
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 01 Jun 2009, 17:01
Question: For alternate tunings that require strings to be raised a lot higher or lower than there normal pitch, what do you do? Is there a special way to de-tune or tune-up strings to drastically different pitches without beaking them, or do you replace them with thicker or thinner strings?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 17:10
For drastically lower, I keep the original string, as I like a bit of fret buzz, to be honest. I have songs where the low E string is tuned down to B or even A.

As for higher...the most I trust a string is a step and a half, and that's a bit much. After that I'd try swapping it in for a higher string (that is, replace an A string with a D) and tuning it how you need, instead.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jun 2009, 17:12
done collecting guitars.

that's not how it works

I want to have at least one year where I am fully, completely content with my life. If that means fooling myself, so be it.

I still want that fucking pine Tele.
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Post by: Tehz on 01 Jun 2009, 18:11
Which way do you tune your D string? Really taut, or really loose?

Mm. That would produce very nice fret buzz.

Really taut. I always cringe when I'm tuning it up, it feels like it's on the verge of snapping every time.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Jun 2009, 20:00
That's the point where I'd stick another G-string on in place of the D-string, if I could be bothered.

I've got one tuning I use for a few covers (Suite: Judy Blue Eyes and Paint it, Black, notably) which is E E E E B E . . . and I tune the D string DOWN to E...
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Post by: Lummer on 02 Jun 2009, 09:49
I have actually tuned my RG7321 up a step. It works really well, with a 9-54 D'addario set.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Jun 2009, 17:04
You know, I am pretty upset. I had to shim my Jag's neck today, and I'll be goddamned if I can't read the date stamp on the body. The neck stamp says FEB 6-7 07, and the body one says JAN(illegible)07, so I'm guessing that my body was made in January, but another thing I also saw on the neck was a big dark stamp that said "Valtierra."

I don't know what the hell it is supposed to mean but I googled it and didn't find anything so I emailed Fender about it. My suspicion is that the sack of shit who sold me the thing did an even shit-sackier thing and gave me a bogus neck.

If that's the case I am kicking him in the dick.
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 Jun 2009, 00:27
If that's the case I am kicking him in the dick.

thats the first time I've heard that phrase... when it wasnt being muttered... by a woman... to her friend... about me.

anyhoo. i need more guitar porn, for uh... "research..."

i do so love seeing pic's of all you's guy'ses guitar kit.... :-D

HELPS ME PLAN.
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Post by: Ballard on 03 Jun 2009, 00:36
There's no way you've already read through 92 pages. Try harder!
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 Jun 2009, 02:04
There's no way you've already read through 92 pages. Try harder!
read? READ????

WELL ONE, I have been here a while...

and two... I didnt read 92 pages, I looked for interesting pics in 92 pages, then read the discussions around the ones i liked... so in truth, I've looked at all 92 pages, but read maybe 30!

...I might not be the sharpest tool in the shed... but at least I'm a tool. :-(
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 05 Jun 2009, 10:34
anyhoo. i need more guitar porn, for uh... "research..."

i do so love seeing pic's of all you's guy'ses guitar kit.... :-D

HELPS ME PLAN.

Think I can help you with that. First summer project down. Body is from about an 83' Kramer Focus 3000, the bridge is a Gotoh Floyd (Ibanez Edge, essentially), the neck is a Mighty Mite Licensed Fender, the bridge pickup is a Dimarzio Super Distortion and the neck pickup is a PAF copy.

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1543/dscf0392x.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0392x.jpg)
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6731/dscf0393z.th.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0393z.jpg)
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6506/dscf0394f.th.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0394f.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Jun 2009, 13:47
That thing is Epic, reverse headstocks on strats look so good. How much did the parts cost?
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Post by: edwinalink on 05 Jun 2009, 13:58
seriously! I'm not a big fender fan, but that things all sorts of goodness!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Jun 2009, 19:30
Guys I think the hollowbody whores in this here thread have all overlooked a pretty incredible axe:

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/3/1/270031.jpg)

I am selling my fake Les Paul to a friend to finance this. The tuners have got to go since the gear ratio is a bit too close for my tastes, but holy shit. I played this in a guitar shop today and after about 10 minutes I told the guy to hold onto it for me.

The finish on the one I played today was significantly more tasteful in appearance (as was the flame maple, which was much more subtle), this photo does not do it justice by any stretch.
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Post by: zerobar on 05 Jun 2009, 20:59
That thing is Epic, reverse headstocks on strats look so good. How much did the parts cost?

Let's see,
Neck $100
Body $30
Bridge $170
Tuners $40
Pickups $110
Misc Parts $50

Total = approx $500

This project was in, let's say, in production for about a year, so most of the parts were spread out over time. I'm most impressed by both the body and pickups. The neck pickup was actually a bridge one i had intended to use on another guitar and never did, so it's got ALOT more output than a regular neck PAF. Both of them thus have an OBSCENE amount of balls, but still get good tone. The body, like all of the Focus series Kramers from the 80's was made by ESP in Japan, so I basically got a top shelf body, for $30. I like the neck, more than I expected, but I still like the feel of the late 80's Kramer "pointy" neck on my other Kramer/Fender hybrid a little better. Their profiles are actually really similar, with the Kramer being thinner and wider at the nut, but both being about the same at the heel end, it's just SOO damn hard to get them with maple boards. I'm thinking of nicknaming them the "devil' and "angel" since it seems fitting, considering their looks.

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9047/dscf0396j.th.jpg) (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscf0396j.jpg)

^What brand guitar is that? Looks like an Ebony board. More and more companies have started using it again, which, frankly makes PRS's bullheadedness against using it in ANY of their guitars look ridiculous.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 05 Jun 2009, 22:10
Gorgeous fucking 335-style guitar.

FUCK YOOOOOUUUUUU

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Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 05:18
Patrick, aren't you already buying Pat's 345 clone?
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Jun 2009, 05:47

Gorgeous fucking 335-style guitar.

What is it. Not a fan of any flamey tops m'self- but just curious in general.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 07:24
That, sir, is a Peavey. Under US$300. I'm actually paying 240 euros for it. I don't know how I get so lucky when it comes to cheap guitars like that.

Shane, I'm selling my fake Les Paul to buy it. I'm still getting that 345 clone. But holy fuckbat, to have a semi- AND a hollowbody?
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 08:02
Dude, seriously. All you need now is a Deluxe Reverb and you have the cleanest cleans you will ever hear.

Maybe if we ever move in together, we should go halfsies on a Silverface DR.


Guys, I'm really GASing for an acoustic right now. I will get one this summer at some point. That Fender Tim Armstrong signature acou/electric is great, but Epiphone's now come out with their version of Gibson's Hummingbird Artist model. I think it looks rad as fuck, how awesome do Hummingbirds sound (awesome), and it's $2,000 cheaper than the Gibson ($300).

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/2/3/591423.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 08:29
No chance, man, I don't ever want a vintage amp because I would play it loud and probably blow the speakers and you know how I am about preserving vintage gear.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2009, 08:32
Dog, it's 22 watts. Shit gets pretty loud? Do you not remember the story about the guy in the store? "IS LOUD, KEEP IT UNDER 4. UNDER 4, OKAY?!?!"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 08:58
The killer for that: no effects loop. It's why I want that 60w Blues DeVille 4x10. Built-in, footswitchable spring reverb and 2 footswitchable channels, with a 'bright' switch for the clean channel (not like I'd ever need a 'bright' switch when I have a damn Jaguar, which doesn't even need the bright switch that it has). The 4 speakers will give me the volume, the high wattage will give me enough clean headroom that I will probably never need a bigger amp.

I mean seriously, if you've got a venue big enough to make 60 watts of tube amp sound quiet, the place shouldn't even be open unless it's got a PA.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 06 Jun 2009, 09:47
That, sir, is a Peavey.

For the record, I own (and have owned) a metric shit ton of guitars and my absolute favorite one of all is a used Peavey my wife bought me on a whim.  Absolutely love it, and am thinking about buying more. 
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Post by: imapiratearg on 06 Jun 2009, 09:52
The killer for that: no effects loop. It's why I want that 60w Blues DeVille 4x10. Built-in, footswitchable spring reverb and 2 footswitchable channels, with a 'bright' switch for the clean channel (not like I'd ever need a 'bright' switch when I have a damn Jaguar, which doesn't even need the bright switch that it has).

The drive channel is pretty much useless those amps, though.  The distortion is pretty "meh," unless you can put some kind of EQ or Sonic Maximizer pedal in front of it.  The clean channel is fantastic, though.  Bright and punchy.  It sounds great with a dirt box, too.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2009, 17:25
Hm, if the dirt channel sounds like a louder version of the Blues Deluxe's dirt channel, I actually really love that sound. I am rarely into super-saturated distortion, I've really got little use for it. It's like the word "shitcunt". Sure, you could use it all the time, but after a while, people's ears get used to it. I only use it when I am really, REALLY pissed.

Edit for clarity: I only use DISTORTION if I am really pissed. I say "shitcunt" all the time.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Jun 2009, 18:12
I have the Hotrod DeVille 410, and if you want a distorted driven tone you are going to need a pedal(s).  But, I don't play metal so it's all good.  If I did I wouldn't have bought it.  Also, the clean channel with reverb is tits on ice cream.
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Post by: zerobar on 06 Jun 2009, 20:42
That, sir, is a Peavey.

For the record, I own (and have owned) a metric shit ton of guitars and my absolute favorite one of all is a used Peavey my wife bought me on a whim.  Absolutely love it, and am thinking about buying more. 

Peavey's are awesome deals. Seriously where else can you find an American made guitar for under $200? I own a few Peaveys and, with the exception of the Vandenberg (which I would consider a collectible) I never paid over $175 for any of them. The one glaring weakness that I found in them, though, was how astoundingly bad the pickups where. But, big flippin' deal, I paid $150, buy some new pickups and you still have something that will kick the ever living crap out of any Korean guitar out there, for less money.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2009, 08:42
Uh the sticker on this one said "Made In China"
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Post by: imapiratearg on 07 Jun 2009, 09:05
I have the Hotrod DeVille 410, and if you want a distorted driven tone you are going to need a pedal(s).  But, I don't play metal so it's all good.  If I did I wouldn't have bought it.  Also, the clean channel with reverb is tits on ice cream.

Yeah, this is exactly what I tried to say.  I'm sure you can get the drive channels to sound nice with some tinkering.
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Post by: jeph on 07 Jun 2009, 18:56
OH SHIT BITCHES

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/telefinished.jpg[/img]

Should have it soon. Will post more pixxx and sound clips.
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Post by: Tehz on 07 Jun 2009, 19:07
Hol-ee shit!

Check out those scissors! What brand do you think they are, I haven't seen scissor craftsmanship that good since my days as a ISQIA (International Scissor Quality Inspection Agent). Ohhhh man I can only imagine what the blades must be like  :-o
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 07 Jun 2009, 19:17
I want a Tele. =(
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Post by: greenMonkey on 07 Jun 2009, 21:21
I am pretty much for sure getting a Fender Champ 600!  I m trading my friend a college bicycle for it.  I've actually been playing it for a while because he left it at my house; Dano + Boss Super Overdrive + Low Gain plugin= pure sex.
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Post by: Bearer on 07 Jun 2009, 21:29
Wow, that is one nice looking tele.  I am actually really curious as to how that middle setting sounds.  How much did that sucker set you back if I may ask?
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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Jun 2009, 00:59
that is how youdo guitar porn... right there!
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Post by: Chad K. on 08 Jun 2009, 03:54
Damn, Jeph.  What a sexy gee-tar.  I couldn't figure out what was weird looking about that tele (other than that the pickup configuration doesn't exist in nature) and then I realized that the electronics are set up backwards with the blade away from your hand.  Brilliant. I hate hitting that fucker on my tele and suddenly wondering where the bass in my tone went. 

Also,  I love minihumbuckers in the neck of teles (or any guitar really).  I haven't tried a humbucker in the bridge, mostly because I hate the look of '72s, but I would imagine it solves the problem that most teles suffer from of having a tinny sounding useless bridge pickup .  I know, I know- that's supposed to be the tele "spank," but gawd I hate it. 

Good deal.  I hope you enjoy it!
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2009, 07:28
Fuck you, Jeph. Fuck you SO HARD for having a guitar that I want, even though it is not actually there yet.
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Post by: Ballard on 08 Jun 2009, 08:50
I just recently got a job so as soon as I've got $1600 saved up I am getting a fucking '52 Tele and that is that god dammit.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jun 2009, 09:10
That is a purty ole barn door, yessir. What is the bridge?
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2009, 09:38
It would appear to be a reg'lur ol' three-saddle Telecaster bridge, sir.
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Post by: jeph on 08 Jun 2009, 17:10
Damn, Jeph.  What a sexy gee-tar.  I couldn't figure out what was weird looking about that tele (other than that the pickup configuration doesn't exist in nature) and then I realized that the electronics are set up backwards with the blade away from your hand.  Brilliant. I hate hitting that fucker on my tele and suddenly wondering where the bass in my tone went.

Yeah, it's one of my favorite little tricks that Creston does. WAY more useful, especially if you use your volume knob a lot.

The pickups are Lollars, which from everything I've read are essentially the best around. The bridge is a vintage-style Tele bridge, with old-skool brass saddles, and it's a toploader because Creston hates how most string-through-body guitars play and I do too.

I might have it by the end of the week  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Jun 2009, 19:48
I hate string thru guitars

why? might I ask? I'm looking at one (a schecter) right now... thats why i ask.
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Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 03:36
They tend to have really stiff action and are often not as stable tuning-wise because of the high tension of the strings behind the bridge saddles. This is the same reason you shouldn't drop the stop-tail too far below the bridge itself on Gibson guitars (particularly Les Pauls, because the carved top means you can make an even sharper angle than on an SG/Flying V/etc.)

Besides, the only real reason you'd want string-through body is for "snap" and "sustain," and you get more of both of those via the guitar's scale length, wood composition, and pickups than you do from how tightly the strings are bent over the bridge.

Finally: the reason a lot of Korean and Chinese made guitars (like most Schecters, LTDs, cheaper Ibanezes, etc.) have string-through body bridges is that running the strings through the body into ferrules is cheaper than installing a proper gibson style tailpiece. It has nothing to do with tone or playability and everything to do with saving 75 cents' worth of metal.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jun 2009, 08:51
I'm toying with the Idea of swapping out the bridge on my tele. Its a mexican standard and its only a year or two old ( I bought it new last summer, never checked the manufacturing date), so its got the "modern" style bridge with six saddles. Would buying a wilkinson compensated bridge and using it as a top-laoder make that big of a difference in tone and/or sustain, and if not, would buying a six-saddle "vintage" style make a difference?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Jun 2009, 10:29
Besides, the only real reason you'd want string-through body is for "snap" and "sustain," and you get more of both of those via the guitar's scale length, wood composition, and pickups than you do from how tightly the strings are bent over the bridge.

Gotta beg to differ here, just on principle. The energy being transferred into your bridge is directly translated into energy being transferred into the wood of the body, and that directly affects how much sustain you're gonna get. And if you've got a disgustingly obtuse break angle, you're not gonna get much. That only really applies to Jag players like me, though. Once you get an angle steeper than 170 degrees (well, hey-o, would you look at that, that's every other guitar design ever), you're absolutely right.

Although top-loading bridges are such a pain in the ass to re-string (at least in my experience), I don't know how you'll stand it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 12:24
I'm toying with the Idea of swapping out the bridge on my tele. Its a mexican standard and its only a year or two old ( I bought it new last summer, never checked the manufacturing date), so its got the "modern" style bridge with six saddles. Would buying a wilkinson compensated bridge and using it as a top-laoder make that big of a difference in tone and/or sustain, and if not, would buying a six-saddle "vintage" style make a difference?

If anything, the Wilkinson should IMPROVE the tone, but unless you're planning on putting a different kind of pickup in the bridge, why bother changing it? Tele bridges are made to house Tele pickups.

If you want to improve the tone of your guitar, swap out the shitty mexican pickups for some decent Seymour Duncans before you go messing about with the bridge.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 12:28
Besides, the only real reason you'd want string-through body is for "snap" and "sustain," and you get more of both of those via the guitar's scale length, wood composition, and pickups than you do from how tightly the strings are bent over the bridge.

Gotta beg to differ here, just on principle. The energy being transferred into your bridge is directly translated into energy being transferred into the wood of the body, and that directly affects how much sustain you're gonna get. And if you've got a disgustingly obtuse break angle, you're not gonna get much. That only really applies to Jag players like me, though. Once you get an angle steeper than 170 degrees (well, hey-o, would you look at that, that's every other guitar design ever), you're absolutely right.

Although top-loading bridges are such a pain in the ass to re-string (at least in my experience), I don't know how you'll stand it.

I own a guitar with a Floyd Rose. Everything is less of a pain in the ass than that.

If you want an ULTIMATE GUITAR NIGHTMARE, try re-intonating a Floyd Rose. There is literally no way to adjust the bridge saddles while they have strings on them. So you take the string off, make an adjustment, put the string back on (and remember this requires tightening and untightening at least a couple hex heads as well as the tuning pegs), check the tuning, repeat 1000x until you either guess right or get frustrated and give up. Oh and by adjusting the string length you're ALSO messing with the stability of the trem springs, so you also have to adjust THOSE, which is MORE trial and error.
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Post by: jeph on 09 Jun 2009, 12:31
TRIPLEPOST COMBO 1000 POINTS!

My Creston will be here TOMORROW. Pants: shat
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Jun 2009, 12:33
Your tales of the Rose are giving me the chills jeph, stop it
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Jun 2009, 12:35
Man at least you don't have to take the whole neck off just to make 1/8 turn on your truss rod. I swear I'd slap Leo for that if he wasn't dead.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jun 2009, 12:47
The bridge on my '95 Mexi Tele is made out of sh*t that was eaten and then sh*t out again by the same pack of diseased chihuahuas at a chihuahua canine mental health facility. Which is pretty much what started me on the path of researching good replacements. Those sh&tty pickups are going too. And the neck. So basically I'll keep the body. Which is red. So I am actually contemplating going black with all the hardware, black sperzels, pickups, and pickguard. And an ebony fretboard. With just the white side markers dots. But then I should probably get the headstock painted either red or black...or not do anything.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 09 Jun 2009, 13:10
Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jun 2009, 13:26
I'm toying with the Idea of swapping out the bridge on my tele. Its a mexican standard and its only a year or two old ( I bought it new last summer, never checked the manufacturing date), so its got the "modern" style bridge with six saddles. Would buying a wilkinson compensated bridge and using it as a top-laoder make that big of a difference in tone and/or sustain, and if not, would buying a six-saddle "vintage" style make a difference?

If anything, the Wilkinson should IMPROVE the tone, but unless you're planning on putting a different kind of pickup in the bridge, why bother changing it? Tele bridges are made to house Tele pickups.

If you want to improve the tone of your guitar, swap out the shitty mexican pickups for some decent Seymour Duncans before you go messing about with the bridge.

First thing I did with the thing was put Lace Sensors in it. One step ahead of you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 09 Jun 2009, 13:32
Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.

What two kinds?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 09 Jun 2009, 13:34
The Classic Player: http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/79098 and the '62 reissue: http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/fender-jazz-master-62/8219
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 09 Jun 2009, 20:07
Honestly, both are pretty quality instruments. When it comes right down to it though, you should play them and see if you prefer them to your Strat; Jazzmasters seem to be an acquired taste for a lot of people.

If you do play and like them though, I heartily recommend it. Jazzmasters are my favorite guitar and I love mine to death.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 00:25
The bridge on my '95 Mexi Tele is made out of sh*t that was eaten and then sh*t out again by the same pack of diseased chihuahuas at a chihuahua canine mental health facility. Which is pretty much what started me on the path of researching good replacements. Those sh&tty pickups are going too. And the neck. So basically I'll keep the body. Which is red. So I am actually contemplating going black with all the hardware, black sperzels, pickups, and pickguard. And an ebony fretboard. With just the white side markers dots. But then I should probably get the headstock painted either red or black...or not do anything.

If you're making that many replacements, you might wanna tally up the cost and see if it'd be cheaper just to buy a new, better Telecaster.

Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.

Absolutely play the Jazzmaster(s) before you sell the Strat. The "classic player" model is a little better built in that they fixed some of the problems endemic to vintage-spec Jazzmasters, but it's really up to you. Personally I think they have a little more personality and a lot more oomph than Strats, although they don't tend to be as tuning-stable. But whatever- if it's good enough for J. Mascis and My Bloody Valentine it's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: StaedlerMars on 10 Jun 2009, 02:37
So my Yamaha beginner guitar is spluttering and constantly getting out of tune, and the selector switch stops working half of the time. This should be a hint to me that I need a new guitar.

However, I don't have much money at all to my name so those 'fancy' guitars are out of the question. On the topic of Jazzmasters, I would love one, and I love the sound, but like I said, I definitely can't afford it.

So I guess it comes down to: what's the word on the squier jagmaster? Any other suggestions for about that price range. I realize I'm not going to get a fantastic guitar for that price range, but it would mainly be a temporary thing (read: 6 months to a year) before I make some decent money to be able to sink into it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Jun 2009, 08:02
Guitar experts: Should I sell my US Strat and buy a Jazzmaster? And, if I do, which one do I go for? There only seems to be two types available easily in the UK, both around about the same price, but it depends which one the shops here actually sell. Or if they even stock any.

The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken. Fender Japan is supposed to be almost as good if not just as good as American fenders, but cheaper of course. I'd try and find one used if I were  you, since Fender just raised their prices like 30%. (A thousand bucks for a Mexican Thinline=criminal)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Jun 2009, 10:01
If you're making that many replacements, you might wanna tally up the cost and see if it'd be cheaper just to buy a new, better Telecaster.
Well I am kind of doing it for kicks and to learn stuff. And this is kind of my way to get it my way. But It will be a while in this economy before I can do feck all. Thanks for the advice though. JJ.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2009, 12:01
The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken.

Mexico. Fender Japan doesn't export to the U.S. due to legal restrictions.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Jun 2009, 12:29
Really? I thought for sure those black HH's were Fender Japan. Bastards at Guitar Center need to learn their shit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Jun 2009, 13:15
Really? I thought for sure those black HH's were Fender Japan. Bastards at Guitar Center need to learn their shit.
Oh jeez, if they open their mouths just walk away from them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 10 Jun 2009, 13:17
The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken.

Mexico. Fender Japan doesn't export to the U.S. due to legal restrictions.

I'm in the UK, so it might be Japanese? There are a lot of the Japanese Fender guitars here.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2009, 15:01
I know piss-all about HH Jags, but I can tell you for absolute certainty that the CP Jags and Jazzes are all 100% hecho en México. I've had my nose so far up their consumer relations department's ass over the last year and a half, I can smell their tonsils.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 15:25
IT'S HERE IT'S HERE IT'S HERE

(http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/creston.jpg)

Sorry these were taken with my iPhone, it's all I had handy. For super-nice fancy-pants photos of the guitar you can see it over on Creston's website (http://crestonguitars.com/guitars/detail.php?id=143).

I took a couple more photos that show stuff that isn't in the Creston gallery:

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/baseballbat.jpg[/img]
I told Creston I liked "big necks" and he took me very, very literally. This thing's a friggin' baseball bat, and I LOVE IT SO MUCH OH MY GOD. Huge but completely playable and comfortable.

[img width= height=]http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/custompickupring.jpg[/img]
The custom pickup ring sits flush to the rest of the pickguard. Gives the guitar a neat look and doesn't catch on your knuckles like a Les Paul pickup ring sometimes can.

And finally, here's an audio walkthrough of the guitar (http://www.questionablecontent.net/mp3/CrestonReview.mp3). It sounds amazing. It plays amazing. I have the nerdiest voice in the world.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2009, 15:53
Man I have been posting too much in this thread as it is, and now I have GAS and it's all your fault.

Also, nice use of drop D.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 10 Jun 2009, 15:54
...but how is it in bed?

I am incredibly jealous.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 10 Jun 2009, 17:09
Quote
everything jeph said.

SHIT. i was so damn near set on a lefty Schecter C-1 hellraiser...

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Schecter-C-1-Hellraiser-Left-Handed-Electric-Guitar-103652913-i1433244.gc

now I'm back at square one....

I'd go for and lefty Epi les paul... but I'm told you cant rely on them to be as good as Gibsons...

pretty damn quick here I'm just gonna go buy a cheap ass ovation and write songs about my hair...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: celticgeek on 10 Jun 2009, 18:11
...but how is it in bed?

I am incredibly jealous.

If it's really good in bed, we may be in for a week or so of Yelling Bird comics.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Jun 2009, 18:50
Jesus Christ, Jeph. That's easily one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard. Can I ask how much it set you back should I wish to invest in a Creston at some most likely non existent point in the future when I have money.
And by the way, your fingers are fucking huge.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 10 Jun 2009, 19:16
I own a guitar with a Floyd Rose. Everything is less of a pain in the ass than that.

If you want an ULTIMATE GUITAR NIGHTMARE, try re-intonating a Floyd Rose. There is literally no way to adjust the bridge saddles while they have strings on them. So you take the string off, make an adjustment, put the string back on (and remember this requires tightening and untightening at least a couple hex heads as well as the tuning pegs), check the tuning, repeat 1000x until you either guess right or get frustrated and give up. Oh and by adjusting the string length you're ALSO messing with the stability of the trem springs, so you also have to adjust THOSE, which is MORE trial and error.

They actually make a tool that lets you adjust intonation at tension with a floyd rose. I think it's like $40, but I never bought it. Whenever I have to do adjustments on my floyds I just shim the trem block and take one or two springs off. It's kinda tough to find something that fits perfectly to make it level, but it's the easiest way i found to do it. From that point on, you're basically just adjusting a stoptail with a string lock. Once you get your intonation right and everything's in tune, then lock the strings fine tune, and put the springs back on. Remove the shim, and adjust the claw until the bridge is where it was when you shimmed it.

Of course, you only need to do this if you're changing tunings or string guage. If you're not planning on doing it any time soon, then you just need to tune it like you would regularly tune a floyd, which is, honestly, pretty intensive compared to a stop tail. I'm probably in the minority that actually likes the Floyd, but i do recognize how high maintenance it is.

By the way, Tele looks great. Hopefully I'll have enough time to finish mine before the summer is over. It's kinda inspired by Billy Gibbon's custom tele.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zerobar on 10 Jun 2009, 19:20
Man at least you don't have to take the whole neck off just to make 1/8 turn on your truss rod. I swear I'd slap Leo for that if he wasn't dead.

Yeah, I love Kramer necks, but that's one of the reasons why I don't buy the old "beak" type ones. I had one and that just pissed me off. Also, Gibson style socket head truss rods piss me off too. I can't stand it when I have to take my guitar to a repair shop to do adjustments.

So, sorry bout the double post.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 20:52
Jesus Christ, Jeph. That's easily one of the best sounding guitars I've ever heard. Can I ask how much it set you back should I wish to invest in a Creston at some most likely non existent point in the future when I have money.
And by the way, your fingers are fucking huge.

Mine was just under $2000. He says most of his guitars cost between $1500 and $2K, with very few being under that and only the super fancy ones (barn boards, Sarah Ryan art) being over.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Jun 2009, 21:01
Man that is very, very reasonable.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 10 Jun 2009, 21:03
God that is a beautiful sounding (and looking) guitar.  It has a surprising amount of balls for a tele.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 10 Jun 2009, 23:19
Yeah that was "Green to Me" and Hum are basically how I learned to play guitar. So I will always sound like them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zeropercent on 11 Jun 2009, 03:21
Yeah that was "Green to Me" and Hum are basically how I learned to play guitar. So I will always sound like them.

I've read this comic/occasional news post for 5 years now, and just half the intro was enough to finally kick me over into signing up for a forum account.  Good job, successful internet entrepreneur/artist.

"Green to Me" is second only to "The Pod" in my opinion (I generally prefer YPaA to DiH...that's maybe not a popular opinion, depending on the audience), and your recording of it sounds good.

Have anyone here played an Ormsby guitar?  They are a little pricey, but also kick out some killer noise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Jun 2009, 05:21
Jeph wins guitar topic on his own forum. Shenanigans not involved. No film at 11.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rusty Kuntz on 11 Jun 2009, 14:00
Jeph wins guitar topic on his own forum. Shenanigans not involved. No film at 11.

Not so fast scooter. This is the last guitar I bought, it's a Gibson Custom shop Historic 57 Reissue:

http://www.myspace.com/tigersofrustykuntz

Jeph doesn't jam in the nightclubs of Chicago with his shirt unbuttoned either:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/jacke1/nite2-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v255/jacke1/nite1-1.jpg)

And you can throw down with my sound here:

http://www.myspace.com/tigersofrustykuntz
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 11 Jun 2009, 18:27
I don't know which bothers me more, the shameless band whoring or the fact that I think you should probably button your shirt.

Goldtops are pretty sick though, not gonna lie.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: zarinrules on 11 Jun 2009, 20:42
Greetings all.  First post here.

I noticed the guitar Jeph Jacque posted in the blurb at the bottom of the main page of his comic, and just thought I'd come in and say that it's a beauty!  Happy birthday, can't do much better than that!

So I mostly play acoustic, but dwell into other realms too.  My main axe is a Yamaha LLX26C.  I also have a Reverend Club King HB, Washburn D-25S circa late '80s/early '90s (with a recent neck reset, so it plays wonderfully), a Rodriguez Model B, a Yamaha BEX4, an old Squier P that I poorly defretted, and a large collection of hand percussion/electronic instrumentation/recording gear.

My latest acquisition is a 1946 Gibson ES125.  Pretty stoked on that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 12 Jun 2009, 02:16
dude with more money than me ITT
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Jun 2009, 06:42
BLOOZLOYA
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 12 Jun 2009, 07:22
also jamming in nightclubs isn't cool unless you are black and in the 40s

sam you've recently developed into a hater.

nip this in the bud, kiddo.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 12 Jun 2009, 08:26
Sonic Youth signature JMs have been announced now:  http://www.fender.com/sonicyouth/

They seem quite cool (wide-range pickups on Lee's one!) but there are some, to me, strange choices. Why do they come with stickers, why is there no tone pot, and why does the website look like a 14 year old girl's myspace page?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2009, 09:28
Why do they come with stickers

Because it's a Sonic Youth signature guitar.

Quote
no tone pot

Because it's a Sonic Youth signature guitar.

Quote
why does the website look like a 14 year old girl's myspace page?

Because their marketing department is a million stupid.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: samuel on 12 Jun 2009, 09:42
Oh man, that's a sweet guitar Jeph. I've been a long time reader but once I saw you bought a Creston, I HAD to sign up. Creston's guitars are awesome. I bought one a while back and got it for my birthday. Here's mine:

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Econorock/guitars004.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of Anders Parker and Varnaline, so I was stoked to get the barn beam cousin to his Wormwood. Trippy to see some of the people in the same musical circles.

Also, I have one of the new Mexican Jazzmasters, they're awesome. It's basically the J Mascis Signature with normal colors and normal frets, which means all the right things are done to them. An American made Jazzmaster is just the same but has all the shortcomings of the original. The roller bridge won't stay in tune at all. The Tune-o-Matic knock-offs on the Mascis and Mexi Jazzmasters keep it in tune. I do a lot of trem work with my Jazzmaster and it is always in tune. The only complaint I have is a buzzing on the G-string between the bridge and tailpiece. They're solid though and sound great.

However, if you REALLY love the Strat sound, you won't dig it. It's nothing like it. If I compare a Jazzmaster to another guitar, it's closer to the Les Paul Double Cutaway...the ones with the P-90s. The Jazzmaster is a bit more robust due the the winding being heavier on the pickups, but man, it sounds great. Great clean and boy do they sing when you throw a Big Muff in the mix.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 12 Jun 2009, 11:00
Recently I put flatwounds on my Yamaha AEX500. Not sure how I feel about it yet.
They are f'ing hard to play. Sounds good fingerpicked though. 11-50 gauge.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jun 2009, 11:04
What's the difference?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: samuel on 12 Jun 2009, 11:15
Flatwounds are cool on bass. They can make a P-bass sound like an upright. As for guitar, I've used them, but it just sounds like strings you've had on for years. They feel nice though, smooth is always nice.

As for the difference, roundwound (standard) strings are a coil with texture. It's circular wire coiled up around wire. Flatwound are  made so the coiling wire is flush to the one next to it. It's totally smooth. Cuts down on noise from sliding fingers and feels nicer, but they sound dead from the package. Some people like that sound though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2009, 13:25
I'm thinking about making a switch to 10-46 flatwounds for my Jag, just because I like the sound of Cake's guitarist when he uses them on his hollowbody Gibson. I can get a very similar sound, one that's good for fast country shuffles, a-la the often-covered '50s classic "Hot Rod Lincoln".
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 12 Jun 2009, 14:07
Oh man, that's a sweet guitar Jeph. I've been a long time reader but once I saw you bought a Creston, I HAD to sign up. Creston's guitars are awesome. I bought one a while back and got it for my birthday. Here's mine:

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Econorock/guitars004.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of Anders Parker and Varnaline, so I was stoked to get the barn beam cousin to his Wormwood. Trippy to see some of the people in the same musical circles.

Aw dang that is pretty! GOOD CHOICE SIR
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jun 2009, 06:01
The classic player is built in Japan if I'm not mistaken.

Mexico. Fender Japan doesn't export to the U.S. due to legal restrictions.

With the exceptions of the '65 Mustang RI, the Jaguar HH Special, and (i think) the Jaguar Bass.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Jun 2009, 07:48
Also these D'addario chromes have a wound G string. Which I am not sure how I feel about yet, either.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Jun 2009, 09:45
Oh man i do not like wound g strings at all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jun 2009, 06:14
Ordered a Bigsby B50 for my Diamond yesterday. I've heard installation isn't really too hard, and I'm hoping all the extra travel will solve the one problem I have with this guitar: it just feels like there is NO tension on the strings.

Also, while at the store, I tried out a Road Worn Strat. Retarded looks aside, that guitar FEELS amazing. Sounds a little..I dunno...I always thought Strats sounded a little bland to me. That neck though, holy shit.

Rather, I didn't try it out, but was mocking it with my friend. The guy working at the store came over, grabbed it off the wall, handed it to me, and was like "it looks dumb, but play it." He's right.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Jun 2009, 11:29
Oh man i do not like wound g strings at all.

I know dude I hate it when my panties get all in a twist
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 14 Jun 2009, 11:36
Everyone saw that post earlier and thought "hmm... no, no, that joke is just too unfunny and over-used". Patrick saw the same post and shouted out "hot damn, this is the perfect opportunity for a hilarious joke!"

Guitar-related: Tomorrow I am going to try out a Jazzmaster and a Jaguar. Is there anything I should look out for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 15 Jun 2009, 06:47
Guitar-related: Tomorrow I am going to try out a Jazzmaster and a Jaguar. Is there anything I should look out for?
Wet spots in your pants.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 15 Jun 2009, 07:46
I've played it and am now lusting after one. The shop was charing £749 for the recent Classic Player model, that seems awfully expensive. On the internet they go for about £550, around about the same as my Strat, hopefully.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 15 Jun 2009, 08:22
Before you buy anything, test a CP Jag with 'buckers. I saw a diagram that one of the guys from OSG posted, and apparently Fender replaced the rhythm circuit with coil blending, you can have it go full single-coil, full humbucker, or somewhere in the middle. The volume and tone knobs by the jack still do what they were made to do, and the strangle switch still strangles.

I really want to check that motherfucker out, because seriously, that sounds like it'd be a beast. Not to mention a 6-string Swiss Army knife.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 15 Jun 2009, 11:15
That sounds pretty cool but I think it would be almost impossible to find any. Even the normal Jags and JMs are really rare.

Patrick, you're on OSG, could you tell me what GAS stands for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 15 Jun 2009, 14:09
Gear Acquisition Syndrome (GAS)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 17 Jun 2009, 15:04
Hey guys, what's the general opinion on the Squier Classic Vibe series? I'm usually one of the idiots who might discriminate against a instrument just because of the big "Squier" stamped on the headstock, but apparently these things are good. Like, really good. One guy on OSG called the 50's Telecaster one of the best guitars he's ever played, and I've seen a lot of other reviewers say things that come pretty close to the same. And they're $350 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-CLASSIC-VIBE-Telecaster-50s-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519376 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Squier-CLASSIC-VIBE-Telecaster-50s-Electric-Guitar-?sku=519376)).

Apparently, most don't even make any modifications to them, claiming that the stock pickups and parts are good enough to leave. This really has my interest piqued, and I'm afraid an impulse buy might be following. Any words of encouragement/discouragement?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cire27 on 17 Jun 2009, 15:31
Oh damn if those reviews are for real I know what my second guitar is going to be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 17 Jun 2009, 17:06
I played one of the Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics and really liked it.  Unfortunately I didn't have the cash to throw at it, and it was going for only $200 too!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 17 Jun 2009, 17:12
Yeah those look pretty rad too. I just wish I could find a local place that stocked any of them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 18 Jun 2009, 06:29
They are spectacularly beautiful guitars, and they play pretty damn well for the price.  The neck was big for my tastes, but that's just because I'm used to the neck on my Dano which is fairly thin.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 18 Jun 2009, 07:03
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/

This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Herzapplikator on 18 Jun 2009, 12:05
Could anyone tell me what exactly this thing is? It's some kind of Framus, no idea what model or anything, though. Also, sorry for the sucky picture, just ignore the crap in the background.
http://i40.tinypic.com/23mvsld.jpg
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 18 Jun 2009, 12:33
Looks like a custom Framus Strato.  Do a Google search for Framus gutiars, then when you get to their site, go to "Vintage" on the nave bar and look at the solid body models.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Jun 2009, 12:52
That thing is a beauty.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Herzapplikator on 18 Jun 2009, 12:54
Looks like I missed the most obvious solution. Thank you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 18 Jun 2009, 14:35
That is such a beautiful guitar.  Offset + Bigsby copy + humbuckers = win.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 18 Jun 2009, 21:41
Agreed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 19 Jun 2009, 02:54
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/

This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.

McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.

for serious though they apparently have ridiculously thick finishes which kill the tone also honestly quilted maple is completely played out and kind of hideous

*this is coming from the guy with three Paul Reed Smiths so set your Hypocrisy Filters to 11.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Jun 2009, 06:32
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/
This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.
McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.
My thinking was also that too many of those looked like PRSs. And that all the people shown look like douchebags. How about if they made one un-quilty and tung oil finish? Would that un-douche it? Purely hypothetical. I'm not buying one of these. Unless I start a GNU-METAL ROCK BAND ACT CALLED: MΣNSTRUALÖADNEKK...
Then I have to have triple flamed bubinga with SKULL INLAYS AND KNOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111  :lol:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jun 2009, 07:40
+1 on the quilted maple hate. I've only seen one instance where it actually looked good, and I was drunk.

Guys maybe I should get a Mustang bridge for this Jag because fuck I don't like when the low E skips out of the saddle. in b4 'i told u so'
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 19 Jun 2009, 09:46
I bought a Mastery Bridge for my Jazzmaster, but I kind of feel like a sucker for doing so. Honestly, I kind of like how it sounded/felt with the Mustang Bridge/Buzzstop combo better.  :|

I'll probably be putting the aforementioned combo back on next time I change strings. I really need money as it is, so selling the Mastery might be wise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 19 Jun 2009, 12:38
So I got some money today and all I want to do is buy a Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. This might involve me not being able to afford food for weeks. But I have been trying to lose weight anyway.

Plus, I was going totally PUNX with my setup by borrowing an amp from a friend in order to practice. Then he asked for it back. Sigh.

So, I am stalking ebay for an amazing buy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 19 Jun 2009, 13:37
http://www.mcnaughtguitars.com/
This is about 30 miles from me. Ugly web site but interesting custom made guitarz.
McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.
My thinking was also that too many of those looked like PRSs. And that all the people shown look like douchebags. How about if they made one un-quilty and tung oil finish? Would that un-douche it? Purely hypothetical. I'm not buying one of these.

McNaught actually had to change his headstock shape because PRS threatened to sue him for it being too similar to theirs (and it really was just the PRS headstock, stretched out lengthwise)

A solid black Phoenix model without all the stupid maple binding and abalone bullshit would actually look pretty metal. But if I were interested in dropping 3 grand on a metal axe I'd just get a custom ESP or BC Rich. The all-mahogany les-paul style guitars like the dude from Clutch has are all right, but I'm just not that into his stuff in general.
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Jun 2009, 14:45
Oh fuck I want one of his Flying V's...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Jun 2009, 15:08
I want a vader V.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Jun 2009, 19:58
Yeah the V's are pretty nice aside from the whole string-thru thing
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jun 2009, 00:11
Wait what I thought the Gibson V was ToM and stopbar just like every other Gibson ever (because Gibson are not very innovative. They basically take the same wood and build a new shape and BAM, NEW GUITAR GUYS EVERYBODY LOOK).
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Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Jun 2009, 00:16
Well yeah but at what point were we talking about the Gibson V anyway?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 20 Jun 2009, 01:53
Time to flaunt my guitar technical knowledge ignorance.

After three years of playing guitar tomorrow, I just figured out how to adjust the truss rod.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Jun 2009, 05:43
McNaughts are for douchebags with too much money.* Unless you're in Clutch.

New topic: How fucking awesome is Tim Sult? He sneaks into my top 5 list of favorite guitarists.
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Jun 2009, 12:36
I did it. I bought a Hot Rod Deville. Now for the excrutiating wait while it ships. I will probably gush about it when it arrives.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jun 2009, 13:37
glyphic, when does the hunger strike start/end?

Good for you.

Like the McNaught "web" page sez, "BELEEB!"
Thing that is so funny about that stupid picture is McNaughty is in Locust NC. Which imho has less than zero scenic desert vistas like that opening page. Also, I believe that part of Stanly County is still dry (alcohol-wise), so maybe that's what they meant?  :laugh:
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Jun 2009, 13:57
The hunger strike starts today.  :|

I do not know when it will end. But, I am still hella excited.
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Post by: jeph on 20 Jun 2009, 14:08
Okay guys, my guitar collection has gotten out of hand again and I need to pare it down.

I'm looking to sell off my ESP Eclipse, my PRS Mira maple top, and my black Gibson Firebird Studio.

The ESP has some finish wear (ie, the matte finish is now shiny in a few spots from playing it), the Mira has a couple small dings in the finish, and the Firebird is in mint condition as far as I can tell (AND they don't make them anymore so...value?). Photos forthcoming.

They're all great guitars, they just don't get enough playing time to justify owning them anymore. I'd rather see them go to a QC forumer than some random eBay person, so you guys get first crack. I'm hoping to get $800 for the ESP (it retails for around $1200), $8-900 for the Firebird (retails for about 1200 too but is in mint cond.) and somewhere between $1100-$1300 for the PRS. I am willing to negotiate though! Email me (jephco at mac dot com) if you're interested in any of them. I may also be able to throw in some QC swag if you're interested.
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 20 Jun 2009, 17:14
Ah fuck Jeph.

I generally dislike PRS. I do. Except for those gorgeous blue finishes with the back and sides on clear nitro finish.

I'm glad I don't have any money though. I've been playing the shit out of my 335, and I seriously don't want any other guitars.

I even sold the Jazzmaster. That's right. I did. Sue me.
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jun 2009, 20:17
Jeph how many years would you be willing to hold that Firebird while I save up for it
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Post by: Jimor on 20 Jun 2009, 21:26
Just tell Jeph that the Albanian Leke trades 1:1 with the US$ and pay him with those...  :angel:
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jun 2009, 14:44
BTW, the flat wounds are awesome. EDIT.
...for to busk with your lovely wife when she is playing an acoustic bass in teh park.
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/Sj7MJnivm6I/AAAAAAAAIHo/7awvQ49glc4/s288/DSCF0050.JPG)
Amusingly the Laguna she just got has a beautiful Bubinga grain (amusing because I was joking about Bubinga). It's not "flamed" but it really nice.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/Sj7MPIKAtzI/AAAAAAAAIH4/gLYdbV1Vwho/s288/DSCF0055.JPG)

Anyway the flat wounds are a lot quieter and even the thin nato body of the Yamaha I'm playing is a LOT louder than her bass. I end up flatpicking a lot so as not to drown her out with the strumminz.

Also, PSA..drink plenty of water out there, kids...

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/Sj7MAtBm9-I/AAAAAAAAIHY/YWdQQ3zlcYw/s288/DSCF0046.JPG)

Jeph, I'll trade you some magic beans for the Firebird.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 22 Jun 2009, 07:34
Shit, I'd be all over that Eclipse if I had any money to my name right now.
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Jun 2009, 08:12
How cool wood it be if Creston made me a blue mahoe tele?
http://www.eyeontherainforest.org/bluemahoe.php
 (http://www.eyeontherainforest.org/bluemahoe.php)
Seems like it is about as dense/strong as mahogany.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 25 Jun 2009, 10:04
So I got some money today and all I want to do is buy a Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. This might involve me not being able to afford food for weeks. But I have been trying to lose weight anyway.

Plus, I was going totally PUNX with my setup by borrowing an amp from a friend in order to practice. Then he asked for it back. Sigh.

So, I am stalking ebay for an amazing buy.


it'll be the best amp you ever buy.  i really do love that line.  i'm amazed at how much the price of fender tube amps has skyrocketed in the past year though.  makes me wish i had bought a dozen 65 reissues 2 years ago.  haha.  truth.  anyway,  go with the 2x12 though instead of the 4x10, and trust my advice on this.  and i don't say that because i own the 2x12, i say this because i played through the 4x10 version for about 6 months before i purchased a deville of my own.  obv the 2x12 ha.

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Post by: imapiratearg on 25 Jun 2009, 10:28
The 4x10 is soooo nice.  Get a Blues Deville/Deluxe, though.  They're so might brighter and punchier for a little extra cash.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 25 Jun 2009, 10:56
The 4x10 is soooo nice.  Get a Blues Deville/Deluxe, though.  They're so might brighter and punchier for a little extra cash.

i'm not saying the 4x10 isn't nice... it's really the same amp.. i just always found that 10's couldn't offer things that 12's could, but i could get the sound out of 12's that i could out of 10's if that makes sense.  try them both, see what suits you.  saying this doesn't mean that the 410 deville isn't capable of  throwing out bottom end, in fact you'll probably find that it throws out too much bottom end sometimes, and you'll be keeping a phillips screwdriver close by to retighten all the screws that hold the frame of the amp together, as vibration eventually loosens them.  also i believe that the dimensions of the 4x10 are slightly larger than the 2x12, and being that both of these amps are already pretty heavy and without wheels on them, you'll find yourself carrying these things up stairs to gigs in the most awkward ways, laughing at the handle on the top, as if you could just carry it by your side and have it be a breeze.   

both the hot rod deville and blues deville have the best sparkling clean tones on any amp out there in my opinion, nothing even comes close, i've always just used the clean channel with either a pedal for boost or od, but if i was going to spend the extra cash, and i had my heart set on a 410, i'd be looking for a second hand super reverb..
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Post by: glyphic on 25 Jun 2009, 11:16
I actually ordered the Hot Rod Deville 4x10. I think it would suit my playing style better since i tend to augment most of my chords with a lower fifth. Plus, I'm doing more mathy spazzy punk stuff lately. I would like the bottom end to really stand out, but still be able to shriek and wail if it needs to. I'm not going to be shredding, but I need people to hear the chords that I'm playing for what they are. If that makes any sense.

Anyway, I have been researching the things since early February and just now ordered one. I hope that I'm right in my decision. I got a pretty good deal on the thing, too. $565 after shipping. It should be here Monday. I will probably take pictures and try to post them, as long as you guys don't mind my huge boner*.



*I will not literally post pictures of a huge boner.

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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jun 2009, 14:09
The Blues Deluxe is no heavier than my 100w Marshall solid-state 1x12, and I lug that thing up and down stairs all the time. And I'm a very skinny dude.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 25 Jun 2009, 15:31
The Blues Deluxe is no heavier than my 100w Marshall solid-state 1x12, and I lug that thing up and down stairs all the time. And I'm a very skinny dude.

i didn't refer to the deluxe line, which are 1x12 combos as being heavy amps.  we were talking about the hot rod and blues deville line which are 2x12 and 4x10.. which are entirely different amps.

anyway,

congrats glyphic!  that's a pretty sweet price too.  i'm assuming you bought it used?  good tubes in it? 
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Post by: pyroboarder69 on 25 Jun 2009, 23:42
Eh, what the hell sorry about the size

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars023.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars023.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars024.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars024.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars014.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars014.jpg)
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/th_animeandguitars015.jpg) (http://s45.photobucket.com/albums/f69/pyroboarder69/?action=view&current=animeandguitars015.jpg)

Did the custom on the GAX myself (it's my mod practice guitar) I also have a Homemade Les Paul (yes, homemade, sounds like good crap) and an Ibanez nylon string that isn't pictured. My buddy has a 59 Tele but he stopped letting me play it because I kept pissing myself. Kidding..........maybe.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Jun 2009, 07:54
hey guys, it's Brian May talking about a guitar he and his dad built out of um...a bunch of junk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPD7_hQk7hk
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 08:20
Yeah, the Fireplace. That thing's certainly something. He and his dad have that 'genius' thing in common. You know that guy's got framed paper saying he's an astrophysicist? That he and Freddy Mercury were in the same band together is nothing short of a miracle.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Jun 2009, 08:34
Brian May was an astrophysicist?
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 08:38
Got a Doctorate in astrophysics, unless NPR is lying... (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90273890)
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Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Jun 2009, 08:48
My respect for Brian May just grew substantially.
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Post by: ledhendrix on 26 Jun 2009, 08:49
Yeah he was doing his phd when Queen started to become big so he left it behind. A couple of years ago he went back to it, and as that website says he's finished it all now.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2009, 09:01
And he plays a homemade semi-hollow through a cranked AC30 with wah and the occasional delay. I dig the guy.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jun 2009, 11:05
congrats glyphic!  that's a pretty sweet price too.  i'm assuming you bought it used?  good tubes in it? 

Yeah, it's used. There's no way I could afford the $1200 for a new one. I figure that if something was going to go wrong with it, the previous owner would probably have mentioned it. There's a money-back guarantee, so I'm not worried. The guy I'm buying it from said the tubes he didn't replace when he put it up for sale are less than a year old. Groove tubes, from what he said. Not sure if they're the Sovtek rebrands or not. I guess I'll find out.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 26 Jun 2009, 11:12
I don't think they're Sovteks repros.  At least, not if they're EL84s.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jun 2009, 11:23
Whoops, I was wrong. According to the previous owner:

3 brand new Ruby 12AX7 Pre-Amp Tubes have just been installed and sound awesome. The Power Tubes are 6L6 JJ tesla tubes which are amazing tubes and are less than a year old.

This is my first tube amp, so the actual brand names are still a mystery to me, somewhat. I know that Groovetubes are widely regarded as standard, but not much else. Hopefully I either learn fast or don't have to screw with it much. Ha
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 26 Jun 2009, 16:28
i have jj power tubes in mine and i've had great luck with them.  i've also never really had a problem with groove tubes like some people do.  i also have some old nos RCA pre tubes that i think have a great sound.  congrats again, did i already ask what you are playing through it?  i need to start taking some pics for you guys, i have some cool shit.  haha.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jun 2009, 16:56
The link in my sig box goes to my new band's space. Rough recordings abound!

I am hoping to have great luck with tubes. But, knowing me, the UPS guy will probably drop the thing off the truck and smash .every single one.

It should arrive Monday, and I will probably have pics posted on Tuesday morning.
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Post by: billiumbean on 28 Jun 2009, 03:01
Graduation present; An Epiphone Sheraton II

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1195/dsc00718jkh.jpg) (http://img8.imageshack.us/i/dsc00718jkh.jpg/)

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3321/dsc00725n.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/dsc00725n.jpg/)

The images are a bit shitty.  I blame the camera, it's impossible to get a clear shot with it (thanks a lot, Ashton Kutcher).

It sounds like a semi hollowbodied guitar should sound, it's got a killer neck, no buzz at all with a perfect low action, headstock's generously angled, pearl inlays, pickguard is elevated.  I'm planning on fixing a Bigsby Tremolo onto it once I get the funds.  It's pickups are surprisingly good for an out-of-the-box pair.  I don't see any brand names on them, so I'm guessing they're just standard Epiphone generics.  Everything is gold.

It makes me feel inadequate, sometimes.  Like it's more of a man than I am.  I try to shrug it off.

Ten out of ten, all the way.  It even smells nice.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jun 2009, 06:04
Black and tort: never a bad combo.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Jun 2009, 06:34
Epiphone Sheratons are really amazing instruments. Feedbackkkkkkkkk *unf*
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Post by: imapiratearg on 28 Jun 2009, 08:31
Ennnvvyyyyyyyyyyy.
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Post by: Tehz on 28 Jun 2009, 11:53
Those are lovely instruments. Treat 'er well.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 28 Jun 2009, 21:43
So, I've decided I need another electric guitar, something more versatile than my single pickup Dano.  Tomorrow I'm going to go look at Tribute ASAT Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow, which I'm thinking might be the perfect guitar for my wants/needs.  I also just made bank by selling my old intermediate student trumpet, so I will most likely be able to bankroll this.
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Post by: billiumbean on 29 Jun 2009, 00:19
A semi-hollow humbuckered Tele knockoff sounds risky, but at least you can go try it out, because that's potentially very awesome.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2009, 00:31
I would hardly call a guitar designed by Leo Fender a Tele knockoff.
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Post by: billiumbean on 29 Jun 2009, 03:05
Lol, I stand corrected.
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Post by: glyphic on 29 Jun 2009, 14:09
I had mail today.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11252.jpg)
Delicious TOOOBB
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11248.jpg)

It sounds like beefy butter with awesomeness dressing. Like God is shouting at me to keep it down but his voice is a totally rad solo.

In all seriousness, though, it has the exact tone I was looking for. The only complaint that I have is that the clean channel can't be turned up past 3 before it starts breaking up. However, at 3, the clean channel is louder than the Drive channel at 7. So, I guess it isn't too big a problem.

I was rocking out earlier and it rumbled some stuff off my dresser. YES.
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Post by: glyphic on 30 Jun 2009, 15:15
After spending more time with the amp, the thing is cracking up and getting a lot of static after about ten minutes of straight play. This happens no matter what volume the amp is set to and primarily on the clean channel. So, for example, if I play an open E, it would be accompanied by awful noise. The only thing I can think is that maybe one of the tubes got messed up in transit (the box was pretty ragged). There was one preamp tube that was seated a little crooked, and I straightened it out, but do you think that getting jarred loose like that could have damaged it?

Sorry about the double post, but I have a week to return the thing for a refund. I would pay shipping (~$90USD). If I can just replace a single preamp tube that cost would drop significantly.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jun 2009, 15:33
Try plugging your guitar directly into the effects return jack. If you're still getting breakup, it's probably a t00b in the power section. If you're not, it's probably a different preamp t00b than the one you saw slightly askew.
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Post by: glyphic on 30 Jun 2009, 15:37
Just out of curiosity, why would it be one other than the crooked bugger?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Jun 2009, 15:53
Factory defects happen. Just another thing to rule out before you maybe waste $90 on shipping to return it.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Jun 2009, 19:28
Today I went on an epic music store crawl, hitting three different music stores in the space of three hours.  I played a whole bunch of electrics, and after trying and considering my other options, I've decided I am going to buy that ASAT Bluesboy Semi-Hollow.  I actually played a Fender Mexican Tele Thinline w/ dual humbuckers which was going for the same price, and the G & L definitely beat it out.  I also had the opportunity to play the ASAT through a brand new Fender '57 Champ re-issue, which is hand-wired and costs a ridiculous amount of money.  When I actually get the guitar I'll be playing it through a Champ 600 (a lot cheaper, but similar), so I was excited to play it through pretty much the same amp.

Here's (http://agandb.zoovy.com/product/3953/GL_ASAT_Classic_Bluesboy_Sunburst.html) the actual guitar I'm hoping to get.
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Post by: Tehz on 30 Jun 2009, 19:53
Damn man, that is hawt.
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Post by: Radical AC on 30 Jun 2009, 22:51
Is that a tribute series?  Musicians friend sells the thing for 1500 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/navigation/g-l-basses-guitars-electric-guitars?N=100001+304275+201363).  Did it fall off a truck?  If not I'm so buying it from that website.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 30 Jun 2009, 22:58
I've ordered from Musician's Friend before, and I've always been satisfied. However, you will get a ton of catalogues afterwards, but I don't really mind. I ordered a mute for my violin and have since been getting viola/violin/cello catalogues.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Jul 2009, 08:03
Oh, it's definitely a Tribute, made in Indonesia.  I think the list price on it is like $800, I'll be getting it for $600.  Yeah, I can't afford a US made G & L.  But the quality and craftsmanship are excellent, and it plays just as well as many US made Teles I've tried.

Edit for clarity: The one on Musiciansfriend is a US made G & L, the one I'm getting is the Indonesian manufactured Tribute series.
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Post by: Van donk III on 01 Jul 2009, 08:17
(http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r309/van_donk_III/Random/P1010073.jpg)

Here's my rig at the moment, a '74 Jazz, 2004 warwick thumb and my all time fave amp, the mighty mesa boogie bass 400+ - there's 16 valves in that muthafucka!!
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jul 2009, 08:40
...is... is that a 6x10 cab?
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Jul 2009, 09:28
That, sir, is a fantastic rig.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Jul 2009, 11:33
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE 8 X 8 (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new).

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.
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Post by: Van donk III on 01 Jul 2009, 11:59
Cheers fellas, who would have thought that countless years of instrument nerdery would give me any credibility?   not much credibility mind...... Just a shame the ol' band has gone tits up and I rarely have the opportunity to play stupidly loud anymore.   Is there anyone else out there that has permanently damaged their hearing through excessive rehearsals/gigs???

join me now in the tinitus choir:

"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 01 Jul 2009, 13:36
Current rig: (Bored at work/do not have a proper digital camera) Fender Tele Standard w/ lace sensor gold in the bridge and lace T-100 in the neck-> Proco Deucetone Rat->Dunlop Multi-wah->Digitech Whammy-> EHX Big Muff Pi->EHX Soul Preacher->Akai Headrush E2-> Fender 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
 Pretty versatile rig, nice and trebley.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Jul 2009, 16:13
Cheers fellas, who would have thought that countless years of instrument nerdery would give me any credibility?   not much credibility mind...... Just a shame the ol' band has gone tits up and I rarely have the opportunity to play stupidly loud anymore.   Is there anyone else out there that has permanently damaged their hearing through excessive rehearsals/gigs???

join me now in the tinitus choir:

"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Capitalize those Es and you have got me :D
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Jul 2009, 08:43
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE Weight x weight! (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new). </fixxxed>

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.

(100 lbs!) Although I have to give it to SWR, they are extremely economical with their cabs weight. GK on the other hand....
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Post by: Chad K. on 02 Jul 2009, 09:00

join me now in the tinitus choir:

"eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"

Funny, I played a show last night and was juts hoping the buzzing would stop when I saw your post. 
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Post by: Van donk III on 02 Jul 2009, 14:30


Funny, I played a show last night and was juts hoping the buzzing would stop when I saw your post. 

it never stops :oops:
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Jul 2009, 14:41
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE Weight x weight! (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new). </fixxxed>

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.

(100 lbs!) Although I have to give it to SWR, they are extremely economical with their cabs weight. GK on the other hand....

Eh, take the back off that thing and it'll be only 98. Help your bassist carry his rig, they'll help with yours. Makes life easy!

Edit: Making my post interesting. I have discovered that if there's any one guitar in the world that is truly the best for making steel guitar-esque sounds, it is this here Fender Jaguar right in my lap. I can bend the G string normally and then push down on the high E simultaneously while the strings are ringing out and get a perfectly harmonized double string bend! This and bending a note before playing that note and two other notes, then unbending the bent string, make for some really convincing fake steel.

And for the tone all you have to do is flip it to the bridge pickup and pick it just behind the neck pickup.

SO HAPPY to figure this out.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 04 Jul 2009, 12:04
I played a made in Japan Jazzmaster the other day in London. It was only £595, I should have bought it.
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Post by: Tehz on 04 Jul 2009, 14:33
You should have.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2009, 15:03
I got a call Friday stating that the Bigsby (and old-school lookin' compensated bridge) were installed on my Diamond LP Junior clone. I'm picking it up a week from today, and the rockings will commence. WOOOO!
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Post by: Merrick on 04 Jul 2009, 15:19
I think I'm going to fall in love with this thread.

So many awesome guitars in one place.

I'ma gonna hafta boot up some pics of my new Brunswick acoustic at some point.  :-D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2009, 15:41
Go for it, there's not nearly enough good acoustic pronz in this thread.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Jul 2009, 15:55
Speaking of acoustics, one of my pet projects for after I get the hollowbody and the Blues Deluxe or Deville is to get me an acoustic. I've been looking at the Taylor 100 and 200 lines, and I've played a couple and loved them endlessly, but Idunno. You guys got any recommendations for something around $500-900 that plays as well as them Taylors do?
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2009, 16:13
brand new Fender '57 Champ re-issue, which is hand-wired and costs a ridiculous amount of money.

Ugh yeah, $1000? Some of the more beat-up Champs from that era go for the same amount.
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Post by: Tehz on 04 Jul 2009, 18:22
Speaking of acoustics, one of my pet projects for after I get the hollowbody and the Blues Deluxe or Deville is to get me an acoustic. I've been looking at the Taylor 100 and 200 lines, and I've played a couple and loved them endlessly, but Idunno. You guys got any recommendations for something around $500-900 that plays as well as them Taylors do?

If you loved them then why not go for one? Why waste energy looking for something else?
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 04 Jul 2009, 19:50
get a motherfuckin' Dobro
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Post by: Zingoleb on 04 Jul 2009, 22:12
The man I am commissioning to make my bouzouki?

He makes some killer resonator guitars, and will bitch you out if you call it a Dobro.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 04 Jul 2009, 23:24
even if that mattered, I want patrick to buy a Dobro.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Jul 2009, 06:57
I played an actual Dobro resonator gee-tar once and the fucker had a square neck and I couldn't make it work for slide OR for fretting. Dobros are basically fucking useless to me.

Speaking of acoustics, one of my pet projects for after I get the hollowbody and the Blues Deluxe or Deville is to get me an acoustic. I've been looking at the Taylor 100 and 200 lines, and I've played a couple and loved them endlessly, but Idunno. You guys got any recommendations for something around $500-900 that plays as well as them Taylors do?

If you loved them then why not go for one? Why waste energy looking for something else?

'Cause I wanna be sure I'm getting the best value for my moneyz. I don't wanna get a Taylor and then find something even better like 2 months later. Buyer's regret sucks in a place like Alaska where you can't even take it back to the store and resell it 'cause the store is like 30 hours away by ferry.

Also guys look at my BUCKLE RASH

(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs178.snc1/6696_1103454060242_1043430031_30260039_1324776_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs198.snc1/6696_1103454100243_1043430031_30260040_1911656_n.jpg)
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Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Jul 2009, 18:00
I just got a Blueridge BR-60CE earlier this year for $800, and it is my favorite acoustic I've ever played.  I don't know how easy they are to find, but if you come across one you should definitely play it.  I'll post pictures soon in order to increase the acoustic pronz level in this thread.

ALSO

HOPEFULLY GETTING MY TRIBUTE ASAT BLUESBOY SEMI-HOLLOW TOMORROW!!!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: wespeakinmidi on 05 Jul 2009, 20:30
patrick,

i have a friend who's girlfriend bought him a midline taylor for christmas last year ( gotta find one of those girls right? ), and while he loved the guitar, he seemed to think it was really bright sounding, almost too bright sometimes, and lacked what he heard and wanted from other acoustics.  however, i picked up the guitar and thought it was a great sounding guitar since it sounded wonders better than my acoustic. 

i also have a few friends whom own midline martins that sound better than the $2000 martins ones we pick up.  i personally really like the sound of martins, but i still can't tell how much i like the feel of the necks, and i love the sound of the gibsons and the necks, but my wallet hates the tag.  ha.  anyway, 

the problem with buying acoustics is that a lot of these music stores have those acoustic rooms that could make a cardboard guitar sound good.  they're so deceitful to the ear.  ever pick up something out of a room like that, only to bring it home wondering why it sounds like a totally different guitar?

these places frown on you walking out of the room with the high end guitars, but whatever, if i'm serious about buying it, i'll play it where i want.  it's just really important to pick up a lot of different guitars, even if they are the same model, and let your ears do the judging, and inevitably, let the guitar pick you.. because it will.

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Post by: Ballard on 05 Jul 2009, 21:07
My ex-girlfriend bought me a low-end Martin a while back and I really wasn't content with it. It was way too dull sounding, too quiet, not bright enough.

Grass is always greener etc.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 06 Jul 2009, 07:17
Pssh, I see your 6x10 and raise you with HENRY THE Weight x weight! (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/SWR-Henry-The-8x8-Bass-Speaker-System?sku=602004#new). </fixxxed>

Actually, though, gorgeous bass rig man.

(100 lbs!) Although I have to give it to SWR, they are extremely economical with their cabs weight. GK on the other hand....

Eh, take the back off that thing and it'll be only 98. Help your bassist carry his rig, they'll help with yours. Makes life easy!
My bassist is the esteemed Mrs Doombilly. She cannot haul the bass rig up the hill on the hand truck. I usually stack the 1x15swr and the gk4x10 and make the trek 1st because everything else in the truck is lighter than that load. Srsly I think with the handtruck she weighs less than the bass rig. Certainly with the ampeg head she would. Reason #293 I use a tiny terror and a reasonably weighted 2x12 cabinet. Plus the 2 PA speakers are like 80lbs each. I have it down to 5 trips with the handtruck these days.
1) bass cabs, 2) avatar212 3) ampeg bass head in skb rack+"power station" (carvin power amp, ETA power conditioner in a SKB dj rack) 4) pa spkr1 5) pa spkr2.
She loads all the guitars, gig bags, mic stands, 2 suitcases with the sequencer, mixer; and our special outfits in the cab.
It is a system. And then the next day after a gig I can play the, "Where/How did I get this big-assed bruise?" game. Loads of fun for the whole family...

Also hot tip #1 for finding good fitting cases for items that don't/won't go into a rack. Go to the goodwill. American tourister suitcases and some rubber foam work trés efficiently. I got three for $10. Two were perfect.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Jul 2009, 09:13
In my experience Taylors are trebly and Martins are on the bassy end of the spectrum.  As a general rule.  I've been playing on a Seagull and find it fantastic.  It plays a lot like a Taylor and the guy that founded the company worked with Taylor a while back.  The best acoustic guitar I have ever played is a Santa Cruz Firefly.  Holy crap, I would kidnap children for that thing.  But I don't know where I'm going to get over three grand for a bunch of kids.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jul 2009, 10:12
Black market.

Re: the incredible brightness of Taylors, yeah, it's pretty intense. But I've only ever heard Taylors with cutaways. I'd like to hear now their non-cut dreadnoughts sound before making a decision, which is why I'm not just gonna go out and get one.

Radical AC, I will definitely try to find some Seagull gee-tars at some point. I'll also be checking out Washburns and Martins and Gibsons and Alvarez acoustics and various others. I am looking for a guitar that is slightly brighter than my Kay (if she got any mellower I would play her to get the same effect as smoking weed, but cheaper), but with a similar mid and bass response and much easier playing action.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Jul 2009, 10:34
My best friend has a non-cutaway dreadnought Taylor and I would say it is much brighter than a Martin of equal styling.  I don't know the exact model but I know he payed about a $1000 for it.  Seagull guitars (owned by Godin, all made in Canada  :-D) are the best deal in acoustics I've ever found for something $3-800.  Amazing craftsmanship and great materials.  Next I'm either going to get a 314ce Taylor or save up for a Santa Cruz, but I'd be afraid to take it anywhere.

For an example of the dreadnough taylor sound you could check the first song on my friends myspace (http://www.myspace.com/canissoul).  (It's sappy, but the lyrics aren't the point  :-P)  He also uses heavy gauge strings toning down the brightness a bit.
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Jul 2009, 12:01
In my limited experience the Seagull's play better than they sound. Which is a shame as the one I played felt great. But they can be had at economical prices. So there's that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jul 2009, 15:39
Know what pisses me off

Gibson is all like "Yeah man our acoustics are the best shit ever you should jack off to them from time to time, if only infrequently, long as our brand name is still famous and in TV shows and shit"

I have played every single Gibson acoustic available as of May 2008 and they are so-so

It is funny they are all "WHOO BRIGHT SOUND 'CAUSE OF SITKA SPRUCE TOPS YEEE" and you play the thing and it sounds dark and thuddy, "Redemption Song"-like

Fuckin' mahogany everything else fuck I bet they brace the shit with mahogany
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 06 Jul 2009, 16:55
I'm actually gonna jump on the Seagull bandwagon as well. I played one of those Entourage Mini-Jumbos (which are supposed to be the budget line), and it was fantastic. And for $350? Forget about it.

I'm planning on buying one pretty soon, hopefully before the end of the year.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 06 Jul 2009, 18:14
it sounds dark and thuddy, "Redemption Song"-like



AHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by: imapiratearg on 06 Jul 2009, 19:25
Alvarez are about as good as you can get for budget acoustics.  Fuck, John Darnielle plays an Alvarez.  That should be warrant enough to get one.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 06 Jul 2009, 19:47
Easily the nicest playing, most comfortable acoustic I've ever played, --which also had beautiful tone and was loud as hell-- was this thing right here.   Too bad it's so effing ugly.  I feel like one of those freaks who owns a Chinese Crested Dog.  Clearly something is wrong with me for loving it, but I just can't help it.

(http://www.gretschguitars.com/repository/gretsch/images/G6022_xl.jpg)

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Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Jul 2009, 20:36
Oh ew jesus Gretsch what the hell
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Post by: BurningSky on 06 Jul 2009, 20:53
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v71/28/17/24806288/n24806288_31031277_8601.jpg)

This picture is over two years old, but it's one of the best of me on stage with my guitar. Damn, it makes me wish I had a band again.  :cry:
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 06 Jul 2009, 22:26
Nice guiatr BurningAxe

Anyways, I discovered a pretty awesome tuning today: FACGCE. It's basically only good for one-finger-fretting-all-strings chords, but it sounds awesome.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jul 2009, 07:52
I tuned to FAGFAG once just 'cause I thought it'd be funny. Actually it sounded pretty cool. Another time I tuned to GAEGAE. Same story.
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Jul 2009, 08:57
I've written some good stuff in DACGAE. As far as alternate tunings go I'm a big fan of DADGAD and DADGBD (for playing Neil Young songs).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Jul 2009, 11:44
I tuned to FAGFAG once just 'cause I thought it'd be funny. Actually it sounded pretty cool. Another time I tuned to GAEGAE. Same story.

lol

I usually stay in standard or drop-D, but I love alternate tunings. Open G, Open C, DGDGBE, CGDGBE, and EADF#BE. That last one is pretty good for thick shoegazey chirds I find.
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Post by: andripeter on 07 Jul 2009, 14:00
I´m thinking about upgrading my amp from vox-ad100xl to a Fender Hot Rod Deville 410.  My gretch would sound sweet through that one!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Jul 2009, 22:15
So, when I play my Tele through my Big Muff, it hums severely. When I turn down the guitar's volume knob, there's no hum. Should I look into Noiseless pickups or just give in and get a noise gate?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Jul 2009, 07:48
So, when I play my Tele through my Big Muff, it hums severely. When I turn down the guitar's volume knob, there's no hum. Should I look into Noiseless pickups or just give in and get a noise gate?
I've got Lace sensors on my Tele. They sound gorgeous. I've also heard good things about those crazy single-coil sized humbuckers that Seymour Duncan makes.
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Post by: MrBlu on 08 Jul 2009, 07:58
I tuned to FAGFAG once just 'cause I thought it'd be funny. Actually it sounded pretty cool. Another time I tuned to GAEGAE. Same story.
1. Tune to FAGBAG
2. Post results
3. ????
4. Profit!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Jul 2009, 08:46
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 08 Jul 2009, 12:05
So, when I play my Tele through my Big Muff, it hums severely. When I turn down the guitar's volume knob, there's no hum. Should I look into Noiseless pickups or just give in and get a noise gate?
I've got Lace sensors on my Tele. They sound gorgeous. I've also heard good things about those crazy single-coil sized humbuckers that Seymour Duncan makes.

Hot Rails? I have one in my Strat. Sounds great, but it's WAY too hot. I mean, I can't play cleans on the thing without it distorting at least slightly.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 Jul 2009, 12:22
Hum is a normal thing with single coils.  Especially with a Muff, which is a seriously high gain circuit.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 08 Jul 2009, 12:24
Hum is a normal thing with single coils.  Especially with a Muff, which is a seriously high gain circuit.

Yeah, and I love both...just not that "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" when I'm not playing. Maybe I'll just put a killswitch in my guitar.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 08 Jul 2009, 16:00
GUITAR SPAM (sorry)

ASAT Classic Bluesboy Semi-hollow; I got it, and yeah, it's pure sex.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2670/3701888829_9861d48052.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/3702699988_47b836d56b.jpg)

And here's my acoustic, a Blueridge BR-60CE (product page here (http://www.sagamusic.com/catalog/details.asp?ProductID=BR-60CE) for those who are interested).
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2670/3701894767_fd5e747b01.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2599/3702702494_4b4ebb56d6.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3487/3702704906_0288df7129.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jul 2009, 17:08
Hum is a normal thing with single coils.  Especially with a Muff, which is a seriously high gain circuit.

Yeah, and I love both...just not that "RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" when I'm not playing. Maybe I'll just put a killswitch in my guitar.
Have you checked the wiring? You might have a ground wire off. But that might just be as good as it gets. Hummy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 08 Jul 2009, 19:35
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?

Is this really a question?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 08 Jul 2009, 19:49
I want to turn the control plate on my Tele around.  I wonder if the wires are long enough.
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Post by: ledhendrix on 09 Jul 2009, 04:01
If not just make them longer. Soldering is fun kids.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 09 Jul 2009, 09:58
ITT: Jeph starts a trend

Oh and fuck noiseless pick-ups. They are way too sterile and take all the persona out of your guitar and replace it with played-out tone. If you are having real trouble with your effects board causing screeching feedback, get a noise gate. That's what they are for. Noiseless pick-ups are for pansies who can't play lead guitar clean enough.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 09 Jul 2009, 11:25
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?

Is this really a question?

Kinda. I am just so on the fence about this it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jul 2009, 12:01
ITT: Jeph starts a trend

Oh and fuck noiseless pick-ups. They are way too sterile and take all the persona out of your guitar and replace it with played-out tone. If you are having real trouble with your effects board causing screeching feedback, get a noise gate. That's what they are for. Noiseless pick-ups are for pansies who can't play lead guitar clean enough.
Johnny Greenwood and Eric Clapton, and Bob Mould disagree, good sir.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 09 Jul 2009, 12:30
Ok, guys. Sorry, but I love this guitar:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SZMr9ii15hw/R3_u0i4lalI/AAAAAAAAAGk/kFiTHRUswjA/s320/pekpek.jpg)

link for embiggenating: http://www.pulseonline.com/Schecter/bigPorlThompson.jpg (http://www.pulseonline.com/Schecter/bigPorlThompson.jpg)

Schecter makes an interesting guitar every once in a while.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Jul 2009, 12:37
There's no fucking way Bob Mould ever used Lace Sensors in Husker Du and I don't really give a shit as to what Bob Mould is doing now.

Bob Mould also thinks it's cool to play one of these.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Bob_mould_mccarren_park_pool.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Jul 2009, 13:34
Hey, Corgan used them during the Siamese-dream era. No matter what you think of him you have to admit he knows how to make that stratocaster sound badass.
Just because they sound a little different doesn't mean they're not as good as conventional single-coils. Even if you don't like the tone there's they have great sustain and allow better intonation since they reduce string pull to almost nothing. All I'm saying is don't knock them till you try them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Jul 2009, 15:13
I don't like 'em 'cause I think they're ugly.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Jul 2009, 09:13
I'm playing electric lead for the first time in a few years next week. I'm a touch nervous, even though it's only simple stuff my fingers feel like dead weight at the minute.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 10 Jul 2009, 12:33
^ Irony is, I can't play much other than lead guitar with my fingers, because holding chords makes my hand hurt terribly bad and so does holding a pick.

If not just make them longer. Soldering is fun kids.

I swear, when I read this, I read it as 'soldering kids is fun,' and as I read it just now, I could have sworn you said something along the lines of, 'Soldering little kids fun'.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Jul 2009, 08:06
hmmm...
http://www.coil-guitars.com
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: MrBlu on 11 Jul 2009, 08:15
YOU GUYS!!

I am considering selling my Les Paul, since I hardly ever play it.

Is this good or bad?
How much?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 11 Jul 2009, 15:49
Dear guys,

I am playing a 1937 Kay acoustic guitar

Basically I don't give a fuck about any of your guitars anymore, this is fucking perfect

(porn later when I finally fucking feel like putting this gorgeous thing down)

Love,
Me
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Jul 2009, 16:21
It is later, so here is porn:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2799.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2800.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2801.jpg)

72 goddamn years old
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 11 Jul 2009, 17:43
72 goddamn years old

Is that how old the strings are too?

(okay so I am just trying to conceal my jealousy)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 11 Jul 2009, 18:46
8===D~~~
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: billiumbean on 11 Jul 2009, 19:14
I really don't think an emission would make for a good compliment considering where a guitar is placed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: celticgeek on 11 Jul 2009, 20:41
That is a flat fantastic guitar, Patrick. 

I have two Kay guitars (one is actually a Penncrest) but I love them both and I really do like their tone.  They are both from about 1966-1967, just before Kay went out of business. 

I envy you the use of the 1937 Kay.  Post recordings of it, if you can. 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 11 Jul 2009, 22:47
I really don't think an emission would make for a good compliment considering where a guitar is placed.

I wear a rubber at all times, it's a neccessity
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Jul 2009, 05:48
It's finally installed yesssssssssss.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/16903675-089352bdc4bc84fd67fcf12999.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jul 2009, 10:15
*Boink*
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 12 Jul 2009, 10:17
When a guitar walks in with two P-90 pickups
And a Bigsby in your face
You get
SPRUNG
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Jul 2009, 10:55
The guy at the shop pulled it out of the bag, and I was like "Oh god, that looks so badass."

I'm loving it, so far. I'll record a demo sometime this week for you guys.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 00:40
Hey guys, I want to ask y'all a question

On my acoustic, I have a problem with the tuning keys. That is, they break off. It's happened twice now, I got one of them fixed, and another one pre-fixed so it wouldn't break, but another is about to snap. I can tell.

I'm trying to look on the Fender site to see if I can order a set of replacement keys (as I'd like to replace them all, preferably), but can't seem to find anywhere to order them. Where's a good place to order them?

I was looking up Fender, by the way, in the hopes that I could put in the model name and get the exact tuning keys I needed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ledhendrix on 13 Jul 2009, 00:55
My dad gets most of his guitar stuff off of this site (http://www.stewmac.com/). I would be very

Here's the exact link http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 01:01
You would be very...what? Worried? Scared? Constipated?

Thanks for the links, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ledhendrix on 13 Jul 2009, 01:02
I have no idea what I was planning on typing there. None at all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 01:07
Holy shit I need money badly
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 13 Jul 2009, 03:55
I buy a fair amount of stuff from StewMac myself.  If you're looking to shop on a budget, however, that ain't the place to do it. 

http://buildyourguitar.com/resources/suppliers.htm

There's a list to get you started of parts suppliers.  There are a ton of others out there too that a little bit of googling will turn up.  The place I buy my tuners and pots at isn't listed at all, and for the life of me, I can't find them in my bookmarks right now.  Obviously, I need more coffee.  Also remember, when you're buying tools, you can probably find those a hell of a lot cheaper someplace else.   Just because it says 'nut' or 'fret' file, doesn't meant that's what it really is.  Skip the middle man whenever you can.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ledhendrix on 13 Jul 2009, 04:09
Ebay as well would be an idea.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jul 2009, 21:06
How/what do I measure to make sure I'm getting the right size?

(As much as I know about playing guitar, I'm totally ignorant on the mechanics of one)
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jul 2009, 02:47
That is a flat fantastic guitar, Patrick. 

I have two Kay guitars (one is actually a Penncrest) but I love them both and I really do like their tone.  They are both from about 1966-1967, just before Kay went out of business. 

I envy you the use of the 1937 Kay.  Post recordings of it, if you can. 

Thanks! She belongs to my old man. If I could choose any one thing to inherit when he inevitably passes on, I'd skip his Mustang, I'd skip his airplane, I'd skip even his ridiculously well-preserved vinyl collection if it were necessary to have that guitar. This guitar taught my dad most of what he knows about guitar playing, and it was the first I ever laid hands on, and if anybody ever hurt it, I would kill them on the spot.

I'm not sure I can post recordings of her though, because I don't think my dad'll let me take her along to the studio when I record my demo in a couple of days. But I can definitely ask! And I'll post more pics later. You guys haven't even seen the headstock emblem's shadow or the absolutely CAKED-ON grime that this guitar has built up over the years. Seriously the grime is like 1mm thick in some places.
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Post by: ledhendrix on 14 Jul 2009, 04:26
I might go and take pictures of all my dads old guitars. Then we can all have an old guitar orgy.
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Post by: Akima on 14 Jul 2009, 15:29
A warning to all guitarists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Of course considering the QC attitude to the music style in this video, there might be some who would say that United Airlines' baggage-handlers did a public service...  :evil:
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jul 2009, 16:43
I usually tell the airlines that I could check my guitar in it's flight case, but that I would not, under any circumstances, sign their "ain't our fault if our baggage handlers fuck up your thousand-dollar instrument" form. I watched one of the handlers in Seattle throw my Jag + case onto the little slidey ramp thing for oversize baggage, and I chewed that fucker out good. Guy's lucky I didn't ask for his supervisor. I'd have loved to crack the case over that asshole's head.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jul 2009, 17:00
Thankfully, it was a Fender Jaguar, and whatever doesn't kill it makes it stronger
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 15 Jul 2009, 07:35
cool kay patrick.  i've never played an old kay acoustic that wasn't one with F holes.  theres a 1930s or 1940s kay acoustic at my local guitar center, and i've picked it up a few times.  it has a cool and pretty unique sound that doesn't sound like any of the others in the room.  i keep promising you guys pics of my stuff, and it'll happen soon.  promise. 
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Post by: Beastmouth on 16 Jul 2009, 01:11
nthing the word to avoid stewmac.  One thing, though, is that you def need guitar nut files if you're slotting a nut.  They're really the only specialty hardware you need for a setup, though
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 16 Jul 2009, 15:51
ok... this is my collection.  i own these..

if you guys want more pictures of any of these let me know... i didn't want to go too crazy with photos.. questions welcome!  i didn't bother doing my acoustics as that's a whole other project haha. i need to put together some shots of my pedal boards too..

anyway..

1974 univox highflyer... original univox pickups are long gone, dearmond gold tones were thrown in at some point.  don't let the pictures fool you, shes still pretty... but honestly the body is in rough shape, and even has weird cracks from what appears to be someone leaving it in poor temperature... however, i bought the guitar because the neck is mint, and quite frankly it still sounds amazing, and you can't stop playing nirvana songs on it.

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3162/1974univoxhighflyer2.th.jpg) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/1974univoxhighflyer2.jpg/)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5804/1974univoxhighflyer.th.jpg) (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/1974univoxhighflyer.jpg/)

1981 white gibson sonex 180 custom with the coil tap and dirty finger humbuckers bla bla.  this guitar is so damn heavy.  it's pretty much a bolt on neck les paul, but this guitar has some sustain has some mmmph to it.  it's naturally aged to a gorgeous yellow, and sometimes it gives me a hard on after picking it up.  true story!

(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8760/1981gibsonsonexfront.th.jpg) (http://img170.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsonexfront.jpg/)

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4595/1981gbsonsonexback.th.jpg) (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/1981gbsonsonexback.jpg/)

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1836/1981gibsonsonexheadstoc.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsonexheadstoc.jpg/)

:::: 1981 Gibson Sg custom.. i've played this guitar longer than any of the guitars i'm posting.. she has some dings from seeing a lot of gigs, but she's still in gorgeous shape and people constantly ask me to buy it.  i wouldn't sell it for ten thousand dollars, even though it's not worth that much.  i've picked up hundreds of other sgs.. none touch this.  haha it looks so sexy with the black trim around the natural wood tone.. i have such a bond with this guitar, this guitar is simply my best friend and will be going in my coffin.  it's also had it's share of tony iommi riffs played on it. nuff said.

(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3048/1981gibsonsg.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsg.jpg/)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7343/1981gibsonsg1.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/i/1981gibsonsg1.jpg/)

:::: 1979 gretsch bst 1000 "the beast model".  i've been playing this guitar alot at all of my recent gigs.  this guitar is so unique and gets such a wide range of sounds.  1979 and 1980 mark the last years gretsch made guitars in the USA.  i don't think gretsch meant for this guitar to be a high end guitar, but i have a hard time putting it down, it just sounds so good.  3 way switch makes this 3 totally different guitars.  it's nice and light and super comfortable to play.  theres a tad of wear on the back of the neck in the first position and then down by the 12-15 frets, but what can i say, she gets a lot of play too. 

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6769/1979gretschbeastguitar.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/1979gretschbeastguitar.jpg/)


(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8271/beastbody.th.jpg) (http://img95.imageshack.us/i/beastbody.jpg/)

(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4803/beastneckwear.th.jpg) (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/beastneckwear.jpg/)

lastly... 1971 epiphone crestwood.  i'm not even sure of the exact model.  this one has the tremelo, they also made them with the hardtail.  anyway, this guitar i bought as a project, shes been gutted of the old japanese wiring, and had quality components put in her, and had a pro set up on her.  i was going to do the wiring myself, but at the time, i got busy and lazy. oh well, the neck on this guitar almost feels like it belongs on an ibanez electric or something.  it is so slim, and easy, despite the oversize headstock and gibson feel.  i feel bad as i don't play this as much as i should, and i always think about selling it, but i never want to go through the hassle..

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7607/1971crestwoodfront.th.jpg) (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/1971crestwoodfront.jpg/)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6273/crestwoodfront.th.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/crestwoodfront.jpg/)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6159/crestwoodheadstock.th.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/crestwoodheadstock.jpg/)

hope you guys dig them!
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Jul 2009, 15:56
Good god, that collection is AMAZING. A salute to you, sir.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 16 Jul 2009, 16:14
guitars

(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyphh.jpg)
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 16 Jul 2009, 20:38
guitars

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z261/TheAceRock/RandyMarshJizz.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Jul 2009, 05:41
'71 Crestwood OH GOD WANT.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 19 Jul 2009, 19:12
So someone gave me this guitar a few months ago and it was so hideous that painting it silver and drawing on it with sharpies made it look better.

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u146/Zingoleb/DSC00681.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u146/Zingoleb/DSC00680.jpg)

Fairly cheap Johnson guitar. Was completely stripped when I got it and it was good fun to make it whole again. The bridge is actually carved from a stick I found in my yard :lol:

Also, my friend wants to buy it.  :-D I'm going to sell it to him to fix up my good guitar back to glory and post pictures of that one~!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Jul 2009, 05:11
How does it sound with a home-made bridge?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 20 Jul 2009, 14:37
A little muddy but not too bad overall. It's an acoustic/electric and when you plug it in you can't really hear the muddiness.

Then the low-E tuning key fucked up on me last night and I have to replace it. It does that thing where you start to tune it up, then the string suddenly drops in pitch. I know why it does it but cannot reasonably explain it.

Edit: That is, when I'm tuning it up, counter-clockwise, it'll jump about a quarter turn clockwise and release the tension. However, I replaced it and it works better now.

I think the muddled sound has more to do with the quality of the guitar than the bridge. Then the fact that the guitar was spraypainted over several time (by others, then myself).
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Jul 2009, 16:17
I have the same tuning problem with the g-string my ltd ec-1000, and it has locking tuners!
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Post by: greenMonkey on 21 Jul 2009, 08:44
Does anyone know much about speakers?  I have a Fender Champ 600, which is actually a great little amp, and perfect volume for dorm room playing and recording, but the speaker is not what I'd like.  I'm looking for options for replacing the stock 6" speaker.  Any suggestions?
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Jul 2009, 06:35
Weber supposedly makes great (and relatively inexpensive) replacement speakers for like..every amp ever.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 26 Jul 2009, 07:50
if you really want that crestwood... your welcome to pm me and make me an offer.. if i did sell it, i'd set up a private ebay auction for everyones security.  anyway, it  seems like the originals are all of a sudden so popular since epiphone reissued a similar looking guitar costing 2grand.  haha.  i've been debating craigslisting it just to make some room, and like i said it doesn't get enough play.  i'm not one to waste things, so i'd rather see someone rocking it.  it IS a great geeeetar. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jul 2009, 08:48
Like I could afford that. I can barely afford Squiers. =(

Plus right now, my mind's on a CIJ competition Mustang for sale on OSG.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Jul 2009, 16:26
um..kinda neato (http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/catalog/item/4798917/7161769.htm) :-P
(http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/i//66SILVERTONEsilBLUE_4_.jpg)
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Post by: Nodaisho on 27 Jul 2009, 16:40
I usually tell the airlines that I could check my guitar in it's flight case, but that I would not, under any circumstances, sign their "ain't our fault if our baggage handlers fuck up your thousand-dollar instrument" form. I watched one of the handlers in Seattle throw my Jag + case onto the little slidey ramp thing for oversize baggage, and I chewed that fucker out good. Guy's lucky I didn't ask for his supervisor. I'd have loved to crack the case over that asshole's head.

You know, I have dropped my epi (in the case) six feet onto a parking lot (didn't quite have a hold of it when someone let go) and it didn't even go out of tune, so if they manage to break my guitar when it is in my luggage, there is either malice or the kind of vacuum of talent that would allow one to burn down a public pool on accident while making a salad in the adjacent state. Yeah, I'm not taking my guitar by plane unless I get an extra seat for it, or maybe if I put the case inside a cardboard box with a lot of padding. If your baggage handlers are so incompetent as to be able to break a guitar through a quality case, when even a crappy case provides that much protection, I don't trust them with anything more fragile than a lead brick.
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Post by: Tehz on 27 Jul 2009, 21:47
um..kinda neato (http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/catalog/item/4798917/7161769.htm) :-P
(http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/i//66SILVERTONEsilBLUE_4_.jpg)

 :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
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Post by: Spluff on 27 Jul 2009, 23:40
So I don't know whether to get a tiny terror or a vox night train.

Help, guys.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 28 Jul 2009, 06:42
Tiny Terror.
For serious.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 28 Jul 2009, 07:25
Tiny Terror.
For serious.
I am biased as I've been  rocking the TT for a while. No experience with the Night Train. The TT has been great for me.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 29 Jul 2009, 06:18
i'd first ask yourself what you're looking for out of an amp... especially the low watt ones... because they're all different.

i don't own a TT, but i have plugged into one, and the dual terror for extended periods of time.  owners of both of those models seem to LOVE them..  orange makes great stuff, even if i have other opinions about those particular 2 models. 

my experience with vox, though biased as an owner of a couple of vox amps, is that the quality of their products hasn't been great in quite a few years..  i don't know that i would recommend anyone to buy a new vox product...  but that's just me.  i'd rather tell you to seek out an older AC15 or something.

my father owns a blues junior as he is an old fart and doesn't gig.. as far as low watt amps, i really dig the blues jr, i just don't dig the fact it's gone up $200 in price in the past year..

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Jul 2009, 09:29
I'm looking for a new amp, and some dude told me that a Marshall MG50FX would be a great purchase. Does anyone here have any experience with this amp?
I'm hoping to spend a maximum of about a 1000 $ and i want a versatile amp that I can carry without breaking my back.
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Post by: Christophe on 29 Jul 2009, 09:39
I remember a friend of mine left his Marshall MG100FX at my place for band practice, and I remember it sounding really, really good. Like, pretty convincing and stuff. I like the sound I get out of my Fender Princeton 112+ but if I heard one of those again, I'd probably trade it in a heartbeat.

I don't know where Patrick's been, but I do remember him loving the balls out of his Marshall MG.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 29 Jul 2009, 12:21
I'm looking for a new amp, and some dude told me that a Marshall MG50FX would be a great purchase. Does anyone here have any experience with this amp?
I'm hoping to spend a maximum of about a 1000 $ and i want a versatile amp that I can carry without breaking my back.

I think the MG series has just been updated with some new models but I have the old MG50DFX. It's an alright amp for the price I paid, £150 but I just think it has something lacking. If you're looking for a good hard rock sound then it should be perfect. You should easily be able to get one for under $1000 and thankfully it's quite light so carrying it around is okay. Make sure it comes with the footswitch, for some reason mine didn't and you really need it.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Jul 2009, 17:54
Thanks for the responses, they really helped me decide. I 'll probably pick it up sometime soon.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Jul 2009, 07:41
Oh jeez, if someone was looking for guitar bargains...
http://www.musictoyz.com/blog/network-highlight/guitar-blow-out-sale/ Some prices kind of suck, but I would buy one of those Reverends just for laughs. You know, if I wasn't totes broke.
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Post by: glyphic on 31 Jul 2009, 18:00
You guys, what is this guitar because it looks kickass and I am tempted to buy it no questions asked but I got screwed last time I did that. The price screams "I HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH ME."

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1293186008.html
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Post by: imapiratearg on 31 Jul 2009, 22:16
Hmm.  Looks like it could be a knockoff of a Gibson Les Paul Special.  I didn't know Epiphone made one, though.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2009, 06:37
I know they did a single-cutaway version, didn't know about a double-cutaway though.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Aug 2009, 07:57
It says it's a neck-through. I didn't know Gibson/Epiphone made any neck-throughs in the les paul shape.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2009, 10:18
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx)

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.
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Post by: doombilly on 01 Aug 2009, 11:24
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://rainbowz-fruit-explosion)

Needs more unicorn.
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Post by: celticgeek on 01 Aug 2009, 11:38
I agree that it needs more unicorn.  Also, more bagpipe might help, since I believe that the guitar uses the MacSeuss plaid.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Aug 2009, 11:56
That's one of the beest looking SG's ive seen in a while.



Don't judge me
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Aug 2009, 13:17
So nobody has any idea what kind of guitar is in that craigslist ad? I am totally digging the way it looks, but the seller won't respond to emails. Pretty lame.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 01 Aug 2009, 14:29
Seems like a copy to me, not a genuine Epi. I could be wrong though.
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Post by: Tehz on 01 Aug 2009, 16:33
I would rock one of those Zoot Suit SG's so hard. I'm pretty serious right now.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Aug 2009, 18:15
If the pickup rings were plain white and the headstock were a different color, I'd play it.  It's actually not that bad compared to some of the other shit that Gibson has released lately.
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Post by: Spluff on 01 Aug 2009, 18:35
That guitar is fucking amazing. You're all blind.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 01 Aug 2009, 20:43
My previous post was about that Craigslist thing, not the Zoot Suit SG. *facepalm for bad timing*

Anyways, I don't mind the looks of that SG to be honest.

Also, I intend on getting this:
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/4/5/589945.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Aug 2009, 06:46
WHAT IS IT

I LIKE
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Post by: glyphic on 02 Aug 2009, 10:00
Sir, that is a fine guitar. That body shape is fantastic.

What model is it?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Aug 2009, 10:20
It's beautiful, like a Rickenbacker bass, only not a bass.
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Post by: glyphic on 02 Aug 2009, 10:57
Schecter Stargazer.

Ok, guys. I know Schecter makes some guitars for SHHHREDDDDZ, but they have a ton that I fall in love with instantly.

The Corsair, Stargazer, Ultra-III, and even the Hellcat.

Of course, I own the Ultra-III. The only bad thing about Schecter that I can see is that they use Duncan Designed parts instead of actual Duncan parts. My guitar still sounds fantastic, though.
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Post by: edwinalink on 02 Aug 2009, 11:51
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx)

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

I tihnk its beautiful... but then, I drive a Scion xB and listen to female fronted symphonic power metal... so, my tastes may be suspect...
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Post by: sean on 02 Aug 2009, 13:51
guys i went to guitar center today to get a new chord and strings (mellow strings report on that shit later once i restring my bass) and i saw those new danelectros. i didn't have time to play them though bhhhhhhhhhhh im going back asap though i gotta try that shit out.
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Post by: glyphic on 02 Aug 2009, 14:11
"Yeah, man. I gotta get a new chord. This one totally stopped ringing out. And I'm not buying any of those add9sus2 things, either, so don't even bother."
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Post by: Tehz on 02 Aug 2009, 15:01
I think I want an Epiphone Casino. Either encourage me or do the opposite.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 02 Aug 2009, 18:06
Casinos are bitchin'.  One day I will have a green one with a Bigsby on it.  Like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Epiphone_Casino_VT.jpg).
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Aug 2009, 18:09
You should try one out first.

Also, imeaapiratearg, your link is fucked*

*technobabble
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Post by: imapiratearg on 02 Aug 2009, 18:11
It should be fixed now.  This keyboard is so awesome.  It's like: "Copy and Paste commands? Fuck that noise. I make you right click that shit, son."
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 02 Aug 2009, 18:21
I tried one once and I don't really remember how I felt about it. I wasn't really giving it my fullest attention.  :|
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Post by: greenMonkey on 02 Aug 2009, 19:01
I think I want an Epiphone Casino. Either encourage me or do the opposite.

Try it before you buy it.  I know people who are really satisfied with theirs, but when I tried one I was a little disappointed.  But that may have been because I had a very specific guitar in mind that I wanted (my ASAT), and I was just trying guitars in the same price range for some comparison.

Today I fooled around with Garageband recording a new song idea that has been bouncing around in my head.  While playing around with my new setup (Tribute ASAT Bluesboy Semi-Hollow -> Boss SD-1 Super Overdrive -> Fender Champ 600) I had one of those wonderful musical epiphany moments where I finally dialed in an absolutely gorgeous tone that was just addictive.  I ended up ignoring the song I was recording and jamming over an 8 bar loop I had recorded for like an hour and a half.  The Champ 600 sounds surprisingly good when it's really cranked.  It's got two inputs, a high gain and a low gain, but I tend to ignore the high gain input and just use my SD-1 to push way past overdrive into chunky distortion zone.  I wish it had just a tad bit more clean headroom though; even through the low gain input with my SD-1 off the ASAT will cause it to start breaking up if I play too hard.  My Danelectro is a little less hot, so it sounds really really great clean through the Champ.

Edit: Also, those new Danelectros are so hot.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: billiumbean on 02 Aug 2009, 21:27
Edit: Also, those new Danelectros are so hot.

Indeed they are!  I tried the Dead On 67' Baritone at the guitar shop a few days ago and that thing is SO fine.  Weighs about as much as the guitar strap holding it up.  I would consider that a plus.

I think I want an Epiphone Casino. Either encourage me or do the opposite.

Do it.  I'd recommend getting a couple quality pickups installed, though.  Epiphone tends to build really nice guitars, especially hollowbodies or semi-hollowbodies.  The guitars are usually so good that they give them shitty pickups just so you can still dream of one day owning a "real" Gibson.  Perceived obscellescence, as it were.

I bragged about my Epiphone Sheraton II a few pages ago.  If my house were on fire, I'd run back in to save it.  I'm sure the Casino is a close-enough cousin to the Sheraton to make you feel the same way about it.  I'm setting aside some cash to buy a couple Gibson '57 Classic Humbuckers because I'll probably be playing it for the rest of my life, and Epiphone stock 'buckers just won't do.  I'm sure the Casino's Alnico P-90s are of the same caliber, so just be financially open to the possibility of changing them.

Which reminds me:

Quote from: The Description For The "SG Zoot Suit"
Headstock Logo
The classic Gibson logo is silk-screened onto the face of the headstock veneer. It is the most recognizable in all of music, representing more than a century of originality and excellence. There is simply no equal.

How sad is it that?  That's like putting "Literate" on your resume.

Although this finish is one that I find most titillating:

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/USA/SGs/Zoot-SG/FinishImages/SGZTBWCH1-Finish-Shot.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Jimor on 02 Aug 2009, 21:33
How sad is it that?  That's like putting "Literate" on your resume.

On a recent application to a bookstore, in the "other qualifications" field, after I put "inventory flow management, display merchandising" and a few other retail buzz phrases, I couldn't resist adding at the end: "Alphabet."

And man, I'm not sure if I think that guitar is pretty or not, but if I saw somebody playing it, I would definitely spend some quality eyeball time on it trying to make up my mind.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Aug 2009, 21:38
Apart from the rainbow and the red and blue, those actually look pretty cool. I'm kind of digging that black and orange finish.
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Post by: billiumbean on 02 Aug 2009, 21:59
On a recent application to a bookstore, in the "other qualifications" field, after I put "inventory flow management, display merchandising" and a few other retail buzz phrases, I couldn't resist adding at the end: "Alphabet."

Easily the coolest post I've seen all day.
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Post by: glyphic on 03 Aug 2009, 15:51
I stopped by a shop today and played one of the new Dan Electro 67's, too. I sat there for almost an hour trying to justify the cost. I was getting ready to whip out the credit card when I got a phone call and was dissuaded. Gonna look for a used one, I guess.

It was so awesome. Like greenMonkey said, it is ridiculously light. But it's got the surfer twang like you wouldn't believe. WANT.
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Post by: jeph on 03 Aug 2009, 20:20
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx)

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

It's a fucking PLYWOOD GUITAR.

Ugh.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Aug 2009, 20:34
I don't think anyone would buy it for the tone anyway.
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Post by: est on 03 Aug 2009, 21:51
Also: gg Gibson ripping off the Apple store site's design in its entirety.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Aug 2009, 07:09
I'm with Les Paul in my dislike for the SGs anyway.
In other news I'd been reading here and other places about the jump in prices on Fender guitars. Got the big fat Sweetwater catalog a few weeks ago and JAYSUS FOOKIN HELL. In an economy wherein a lot of poor bastards are selling their prized instruments, artyfacts, and children for a pittance it hardly seems wise to yoink their prices this astronomically. That J5 Triple Deluxe tele is like $1200 now on Sweetwater. That was like an $800 ax last I checked. Damn thing is covered in chrome. You could probably make it out of plywood and no one would notice. :)
Oh well. I ended up getting that Black Widow when I was contemplating that thing. Not sure wtf I was thinking in either case. Except maybe "uuugh black guitar sexxx."
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Post by: Chad K. on 04 Aug 2009, 07:32
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx


SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

It's a fucking PLYWOOD GUITAR.

Ugh.

Woah, woah woah, there, buddy.  It's a fuckng plywood guitar with a Gibson logo...sooo, you know $1000 right there.

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Post by: edwinalink on 04 Aug 2009, 11:02
any guitar that FUCKS is a guitar for me!

...

I'm, just so lonely! :cry:

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Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Aug 2009, 22:03
That's one of the beest looking SG's ive seen in a while.



Don't judge me

Too laaaaaaaaate
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Post by: Headwoünd on 05 Aug 2009, 13:11
If the grey and cream finish paired with the pick-ups' copper doesn't at least look like Teh Sex, I apparently don't know what does.
Good lord that's pretty.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Aug 2009, 14:38
waiting for a pagebreak
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Post by: Spenser on 06 Aug 2009, 22:10
I stopped by a shop today and played one of the new Dan Electro 67's, too. I sat there for almost an hour trying to justify the cost. I was getting ready to whip out the credit card when I got a phone call and was dissuaded. Gonna look for a used one, I guess.

It was so awesome. Like greenMonkey said, it is ridiculously light. But it's got the surfer twang like you wouldn't believe. WANT.

I'm actually really tempted to get one myself.
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Aug 2009, 00:59
SO.

I want an electric guitar. I've played my Yamaha acoustic to death and want something loud and obnoxious. I think I would probably like a Telecaster! I have maybe $600 CAD to spend on the actual guitar, so how cheap do good guitars go for?
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Post by: LeeC on 07 Aug 2009, 04:48
any guitar that FUCKS is a guitar for me!

...

I'm, just so lonely! :cry:


there there.  lonley wolf is lonley. :oops:

Yeah I could use some input on electric guitars.  I've only play acoustic but I am told that really what you need to do is go to a guitar store or music shop and try out the different guitars to find the one that has the sound your looking for and feels comforatable to you.  Play clean and distorted through a couple of songs you know until you find the guitar you feel is right.

as for price it generally depends on where they are made.  I am told the ones made in asia (japan, china, tiawon, ect.)  are generally cheaper than their american and mexican counterparts.  Some hardcore guitarists I've met prefer the ones built in mexico and USA as they had bad expirences with those made in asia (falling apart, defective, broken, sounds completley different from the Mex/US equivilent)  but honestly I dont really know from expierence.
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Post by: doombilly on 07 Aug 2009, 11:08
That is a somewhat useful generalization but it not exactly true. I've had good guitars from Asia and defective ones from N America.
You best bet is to go out and play some.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Aug 2009, 12:50
My main man is Korean and i like it a lot more than many of the American guitars i've played.
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Post by: sean on 07 Aug 2009, 15:23
Melodic get one of those new danelectros! they only cost 350 and they sound pretty rad!
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Aug 2009, 15:36
Oh man that looks like one rad-sounding guitar.

EDIT: Pagebreak 100. Awethome.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 07 Aug 2009, 20:55
SO.

I want an electric guitar. I've played my Yamaha acoustic to death and want something loud and obnoxious. I think I would probably like a Telecaster! I have maybe $600 CAD to spend on the actual guitar, so how cheap do good guitars go for?
I'm too lazy to look up what the exchange rate between Canadian and American dollars, but the G&L Tribute Tele clones are supposed to be fantastic. I have a Fender Tele Standard. Mine's great but I hear their quality is pretty inconsistent, so I'd play the hell out of one before buying it.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 07 Aug 2009, 23:26
I think Canadian and American are roughly the same (I know for awhile there the Canadian was worth more, then the American, then the Canadian).
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Post by: greenMonkey on 08 Aug 2009, 10:53
but the G&L Tribute Tele clones are supposed to be fantastic.

TRUTH.  Mine was $600 US, and plays and sounds just as good if not better than my friend's custom built Chandler Tele clone.

Edit: To pitch in my two cents on the Asia vs. America debate-all my guitars are from Asia.  My Danelectro I believe is from Korea, my acoustic is from China, and my G&L Tribute is from Indonesia.  While the Danelectro definitely is not the best put-together guitar (but what can you expect from something I bought for $180?), it is certainly still playable and sounds good, and my two other axes are just as good if not better than many more expensive American made guitars that I have played.  My advice is do your research and try before you buy.
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Post by: Melodic on 08 Aug 2009, 16:59
Man, I went to three different shops today and all three A) didn't have Danelectros and B) tried to sell me Squier packages. Those fuckers.
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Post by: sean on 08 Aug 2009, 17:27
As much as I hate recommending this, try guitar center. I know the one by me has them.

Man i really hate it guitar center is actually the closest music store to my house. it's the only one I can walk to.
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Post by: billiumbean on 09 Aug 2009, 00:11
What's so bad about Guitar Center?
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Post by: Noff on 09 Aug 2009, 04:56
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Zoot-Suit.aspx

http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/311e1484-c587-4db7-9442-6470cddca041/SGZTRWCH1-Beauty-Shot.aspx

SERIOUSLY, GIBSON?! What the fuckkkkkk.

It's a fucking PLYWOOD GUITAR.

Ugh.

But it makes it all better when you call it a laminate instead!
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Aug 2009, 06:34
What's so bad about Guitar Center?
to quote Cake, "you're drinking what they're sellin'"
Quite often they are the only game in town. They hire people that are willing to work for nothing so they get fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt. Don't get technical advice from them, or do the opposite of their advice. Also NEVER buy the sh*t warranty they try to scare you into getting. The manufacturer protects you as long as you need and theirs is utter crap. They LIE and tell you, "Just bring it by and we'll give you another one." What they will give you is a numer to mail your broken sh*t off to and NO idea when it would possibly return, if ever. This is their #1 SCAM.

Having said that, I've gotten thousands of $ worth of gear from them.

They have a lot of quality gear at good prices.

Eric
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Aug 2009, 08:54
That's why i love visiting local stores. People there, they know stuff.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Aug 2009, 10:13
So, I played an Ibanez Artcore AS73 yesterday and was pretty impressed.  It was white and really pretty and sounded pretty good.  It played better than it sounded, though.  The pickups sounded a little thin, even when I backed off the treble.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 09 Aug 2009, 12:39
I have an '04 artcore and the stock pickups are crap.  As is the nut.  By crap I mean total crap.   Replace both and you very seriously have a guitar that 99% of people will be unable to distinguish from an ES-335 for 1/3 of the price.   It's an excellent guitar for what you're paying, if you're willing to spend just a few dollars more after purchase.
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Post by: Spenser on 09 Aug 2009, 12:45
Also, at guitar center you almost always get some teenager that thinks he's awesome tapping on a BC Rich and turning the volume to 11...
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Aug 2009, 13:00
fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt.

Eric

WAIT. too smug for Indie record stores!?!?!? and more musically ignorant?

is that really possible?

 :laugh:
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Aug 2009, 13:23
fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt.

Eric

WAIT. too smug for Indie record stores!?!?!? and more musically ignorant?

is that really possible?

 :laugh:
Well that depends on how much you want to talk about tapping on a BC Rich?
 :wink:
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Aug 2009, 13:32
fuckers that are too smug to work in indie record stores and know less about music than my chihuahua's butt.

Eric

WAIT. too smug for Indie record stores!?!?!? and more musically ignorant?

is that really possible?

 :laugh:
Well that depends on how much you want to talk about tapping on a BC Rich?
 :wink:


I see your point

*looks at BC Rich in the closet...*

FUCK YOU GUITAR CENTER!
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Post by: imapiratearg on 09 Aug 2009, 16:49
I have an '04 artcore and the stock pickups are crap.  As is the nut.  By crap I mean total crap.   Replace both and you very seriously have a guitar that 99% of people will be unable to distinguish from an ES-335 for 1/3 of the price.   It's an excellent guitar for what you're paying, if you're willing to spend just a few dollars more after purchase.

Yeah, I definitely would not buy one without replacing the pickups immediately afterward.  They were so weak.  I've come to expect that from Ibanez guitars.
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Post by: All_¥our_Bass on 10 Aug 2009, 00:21
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l170/All_Your_Bass/

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/extended-range-guitars/64562-so-i-just-restrung-the-kittythulhu-again.html
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Post by: Chad K. on 10 Aug 2009, 09:57
So, I played an Ibanez Artcore AS73 yesterday and was pretty impressed.  It was white and really pretty and sounded pretty good.  It played better than it sounded, though.  The pickups sounded a little thin, even when I backed off the treble.

I have an AF75 hollowbody that I love.  I need to get a bone nut put on it, but the thing osunds great and plays even better.  At $300 bones out the door it was a steal.

Regarding GC- they are annoying because they don't know what they're talking about, and can be pushy because they are on commission.  However, they always have everything other than good used gear.  Also, if you want to buy new, they are easy.  Since every snot-nosed, jerk-off 13 year old with no manners or good sense is allowed to pick up their guitars, they all inevitably have a good scratch in them somewhere.  And, since they work off commission, and aren't the brightest candles on the menora (generally) you can normally talk them down termendously.  That AF75 had a finish scratch on the back of the neck, which resulted in $100 + tax off the price.  All you have to do is ask for something outlandish, and when they say no, be prepared to walk out of the store.  Try something like, "well, I'll just see if anyone else has one.  Thanks."  I have done this with that guitar, a mexi tele that I also got for $300 due to a knick on the bottom and no top hat knob, and some other cases and amp stands, which will get scratched anyway.  Additional fun fact- TKL makes all of the epiphone and ibanez cases (and I think schechter) that GC stocks, and GC stocks those cases in the generic and the ones with the brand name on them.  The TKL they will generally sell with a guitar for $50 and without for $80ish; the name brand ones are normally $100+.  

Additional fun fact-  I am buying an epiphone sheraton this Friday and am ridiculously excited.  Possibly my favorite guitar model ever.
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Post by: MadassAlex on 11 Aug 2009, 17:35
So last week I took my Gibson SG into the local guitar shop for full setup.

The guy who owns the place and sees to the guitars is a GOD. My SG just went from unashamedly rockin' to righteously infernal.
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Post by: Melodic on 11 Aug 2009, 20:18
Vancouver does not have a single Danelectro '67 for sale, anywhere. Fuuuuu
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Aug 2009, 10:27
Fuck i want Jeph's prs. WHY DO YOU ONLY SHIP TO THE US JEPH WHY?!
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Post by: Beastmouth on 12 Aug 2009, 22:26
SO.

I want an electric guitar. I've played my Yamaha acoustic to death and want something loud and obnoxious. I think I would probably like a Telecaster! I have maybe $600 CAD to spend on the actual guitar, so how cheap do good guitars go for?
if you want a tele try and find a squier classic vibe '50s tele.  it's a fantastic guitar and pretty cheap, and it's actually pine-bodied like the first teles
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Post by: Beastmouth on 12 Aug 2009, 22:29
[Guitar Center]  have a lot of quality gear at good prices.
If you get in with the right folks at a local shop, those prices'll start to look a lot worse
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Aug 2009, 05:59
Agreed. But GC has run them all out of business in Charlotte, much like teh Wal-Mart has many a mom-n-pop shops. Suxxxz,.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 15 Aug 2009, 18:31
Dear QC Guitar Thread,

Do you name your guitars?  If so, what are their names?

My Danelectro's name is Donna.  My Tribute's name is Chuck.  So far my acoustic doesn't have a name, so I just call it "The Blueridge".
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Aug 2009, 18:52
i have one electric guitar and one bass, i call them "my electric" and "my bass"

I'm so damn creative
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Post by: Tehz on 15 Aug 2009, 20:36
My Jazzmaster's name is Bilinda.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/kevinandbilinda.jpg)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 16 Aug 2009, 05:26

Do you name your guitars? 

No.   I don't even know how many I have.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Aug 2009, 06:51
lucky bastard
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 16 Aug 2009, 12:21
No, it's a guitar.
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Post by: billiumbean on 17 Aug 2009, 01:51
I named my Sheraton "Aoide" because I didn't like how blank the case looked, so I made this big elaborate collage of a woman playing a flute using masking tape and permanent pen.  Aoide was the muse of songs in Greek mythology.  It's pretty cheesy, I'll admit, but I like it.  It's just pretentious enough to make me feel superior to everyone else in every way without making me too narcissistic.  Or something.

And I'll heed your warnings against Guitar Center.  Reason why I asked is because I live a thousand miles away from them and was oblivious to their notoriety.  I remember Mogwai ranting (http://www.mogwai.co.uk/words/Music_Stores_and_Attitudes/Music_store_personnel_and_their_attitude_towards_customers/) about a guitar store in Glasgow and how rude and dickheaded they were.  I don't get it, what causes this complex in guitar store employees?
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Post by: BlahBlah on 17 Aug 2009, 02:04
Ha! I have been to that shop. I was just browsing through it quickly though.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2009, 05:18
what causes this complex in guitar store employees?
I don't know, spending the whole of every workday listen to an endless loop of people half-assed shredding, thumb popping the bass and other unfortunate musique concrete~collage~barf~ diarrhea would certainly do it to me. If i have to spend more than 10 minutes on a Saturday I'm pretty ready to choke a bitch.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 17 Aug 2009, 06:41
what causes this complex in guitar store employees?
I don't know, spending the whole of every workday listen to an endless loop of people half-assed shredding, thumb popping the bass and other unfortunate musique concrete~collage~barf~ diarrhea would certainly do it to me. If i have to spend more than 10 minutes on a Saturday I'm pretty ready to choke a bitch.

Hmmm... I never thought of it quite that way.  I guess that's rather analogous to the days I used to work in a pretty popular live venue in DC and got so sick of bad college metal bands that I couldn't stand going to work and quit to take a much harder job with far less pay just to preserve my sanity.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2009, 11:38
Exactly. I have some empathy for those guys, but they've given me shet advice and ripped me off on the "warranty" so I am just glad when I leave.
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Post by: Radical AC on 17 Aug 2009, 13:17
Anything I could buy from guitar center I buy online from Musicians Friend so I don't have to pay sales tax.  Unless, of course, it is used.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2009, 13:56
Yeah I do that if it is something I can wait on. Actually if I buy online it is from Sweetwater.com. But I am not SO adverse to sales tax as it pays part of my salary. But yeah, on big ticket items that could be some change.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Aug 2009, 10:17
Guys, I've finally tried the Tiny Terror. My GOD that thing has an amazing metal tone!
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Aug 2009, 17:05
I named my electric Prairie Sunset because of its beautiful cherry sunburst finish.

My acoustic is The Ninja because it is all black (my creativity knows no bounds).

However, I'm probably getting a new one soon, so I'm going to paint shurikens over the fret markers.


Also, I'm thinking I may buy a new electric too, and I've narrowed it down to an Epiphone Les Paul Custom Silverburst (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Epiphone/Ltd-Ed-Les-Paul-Custom-Silverburst.aspx) ($1200) or a Gibson Les Paul Studio (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio.aspx)  ($1800).  Advice?
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Post by: Cire27 on 18 Aug 2009, 19:01
Guys, I've finally tried the Tiny Terror. My GOD that thing has an amazing metal tone!

I really hope I can get one soon.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 18 Aug 2009, 23:52
I named my guitar Arrgh!

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9436/media1x.jpg)

That sticker is the best thing I've ever seen in a touristy gift shop. Ever. :lol:
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Post by: billiumbean on 19 Aug 2009, 06:13
A touristy gift shop.

Why would they sell a frustration sticker at a tourist-centered business?  Isn't it taboo to let it slip that your town is less than perfect?

That aside, I don't think I could ever see myself putting stickers on my guitar.  Takes guts, of which I have none.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Aug 2009, 08:20
Guys, I've finally tried the Tiny Terror. My GOD that thing has an amazing metal tone!

I really hope I can get one soon.
I spent some time with just the guitar plugged into mine last night. Sometimes I forget how awesome it is sans all the other models/efx/etc...I put in the signal path.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 19 Aug 2009, 08:36
I'll chime in with a few more than two cents, if no one minds too much.
First, here's me with two of my basses:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/BastardousBassist/Other%20stuff/outdoorgig.jpg)
That's me in the background after a TERRIBLE gig my high school band played.  I'm the one scratching my face behind the MASSIVE china cymbal.  I'm holding a Modulus Genesis 5 string named Suzanne.  She's my baby as far as electric basses go.  On the far left you can see my rig.  It's expanded a little bit since then with a wireless system, a tuner and a power conditioner (gotta love tax write-offs as a musician).
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/BastardousBassist/Other%20stuff/Richardwithbass.jpg)
That's me after my junior recital.  Somewhere there's a picture of me after my senior recital, but I seemed to have deleted it from my computer.  Anyways, it's a Juzek plywood from the 1930's and I love her.  I haven't named her yet.

I have an Ibanez SR-810 that I converted to fretless.  His name is Jaco, for obvious reasons.  My other rig (aside from the one pictured) is an Acoustic Image Contra that sometimes goes into a Carvin 2x10" cabinet.

As far as guitar center goes, I've heard that it's against company policy to ask someone to turn down when he/she is demoing the gear, which sucks for everyone, really.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Aug 2009, 10:47
Nice URB. My wife wanted one but we just did not have the $.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 19 Aug 2009, 10:55
Yeah, that one came real cheap at $2K US.  It was only that cheap because the neck is from a Kay Bass and the scroll had come off when the guy who sold it to me got it.  He guaranteed the repairs, though.  I highly recommend upright, though.  It's so much more fun.  Another huge recommendation: take lessons to prevent bad habits.  With electric bass, bad habits are less noticeable, but upright takes so much more force that bad habits will destroy your body.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 19 Aug 2009, 10:58
Why would they sell a frustration sticker at a tourist-centered business?

I haven't a clue, but it was just too perfectly random. I had to get it.

Isn't it taboo to let it slip that your town is less than perfect?

I was on vacation.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Aug 2009, 07:42
take lessons to prevent bad habits.
So true. We had an instructor lined up too. Oh well. Looks like this whole yr we'll be broke. Surprise, surprise.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 20 Aug 2009, 08:24
Ah, I know that.  I went from being a musician to being a graduate student!  I've been constantly broke for the past five years.  Well, sometimes good things happen.  As a musician, I might have a good month and as a graduate student I finally got money back on my tax return!
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Post by: Beastmouth on 20 Aug 2009, 14:42
Agreed. But GC has run them all out of business in Charlotte, much like teh Wal-Mart has many a mom-n-pop shops. Suxxxz,.
Well I always go to the Music Center on 74 in Gastonia.  Got an ashtray for my 50s Classic Vibe tele yesterday, and I got an even better price because their supplier was out of stock the first time they ordered it.  Now I have somewhere to rest my hand and not worry about hitting the controls!  (yay upsidedown guitars)
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Post by: Chad K. on 20 Aug 2009, 22:06
Just got my brand new (to me) Epi Sheraton II back from a set up and OH MY GOD!!!  I love this effin' gee-tar.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Aug 2009, 05:47
Agreed. But GC has run them all out of business in Charlotte, much like teh Wal-Mart has many a mom-n-pop shops. Suxxxz,.
Music Center on 74 in Gastonia. 

Yeah. I've been there but it is a haul from my house. But then I got my TT at Mullis in Concord, and my Nitefly at the Music Loft in Greensboro. If you are on that side of the piedmont, there is a pretty good place in Boiling Springs too (Bulldog Music). They work on Ampegs at least.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 22 Aug 2009, 17:47
My Fender is affectionately known as my "Gem" since the specific model is a Fender Gemini II.

My electric guitar is known as Bulimia since the pickup fell out on me once.

I used to have a small sticker on my guitar saying "Trogdor was here" and I was tempted to take a lighter to the finish around it but did not have the courage.
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Post by: Merrick on 23 Aug 2009, 17:14
(http://www.mainstreetvintageco.com/i//66SILVERTONEsilBLUE_4_.jpg)

WANT. NOW.
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Aug 2009, 21:05
prefinish:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0349.jpg)

after sanding and finishing:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0353.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0357.jpg)

This was my practice build for a guitar I plan on making when I acquire vast sums of money (specifically about $650).
A thinline Jazzmaster/Tele/Strat/Les Paul hybrid.  Poplar on cedar (wood bought from home depot), but the final real build will be black walnut.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 23 Aug 2009, 21:15
Yay for making your own guitar!  Are you going to build the neck, too?  If so, out of what?
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Aug 2009, 21:31
Oh god no.  This was the 2nd legit electric guitar body I threw together, building a neck takes more talent than I've got I'm afraid.  If anything, for the finished product, I'll go with a USACG one piece maple neck/fretboard.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 23 Aug 2009, 22:00
Blackheart Hothead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXrfhamY3Fs).

DAAAAAYUM.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Aug 2009, 22:53

DAAAAAYUM.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Aug 2009, 13:11
So this is my crappy rendering of how my tele will look if I ever do the mods I want.
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/67766/dream-tele.png)

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Post by: Bearer on 27 Aug 2009, 16:24
Guys, Lowden guitars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2vHPt6GfMc
Walnut back and sides; Cedar top
Handcrafted in Ireland.  Can I have 4 grand please?
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Aug 2009, 07:30
Charlotte (NC) Guitar Show is today & Tomorrow http://bit.ly/DZqLu I'm hoping to sell this '64 P bass (http://charlotte.craigslist.org/msg/1346542929.html) neck to pay for my telemod.
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Post by: sean on 30 Aug 2009, 10:26
guys i wanna get my guitar chops up so i can start a 2 piece emo thing. however i dont have an amp right now so can anyone recommend a cheap acoustic guitar that is reasonably okay? i just want like, some steel string thing that stays in tune.

edit: unless you have a really good idea sam reminded me of pawn shops so i should be okay.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Aug 2009, 13:04
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SprZ0_oclpI/AAAAAAAAKKI/k4NE7t1y-G8/s400/DSCF0452.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Gtrshow)

Some pics I took at the guitar show in Charlotte. Click on that one for mo'.
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Post by: Christophe on 30 Aug 2009, 13:15
What? Who stole my Lead II? And priced it 3 bills above what I got it for? AHHHH
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Post by: squawk on 30 Aug 2009, 13:20
THE CORONADO
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 30 Aug 2009, 13:38
I would do terrible, terrible things for that Coronado II.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 30 Aug 2009, 14:15
man, I dig the Coronados but I much prefer the Starcasters.

And there are three on ebay right now. Three, even a black one
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Aug 2009, 14:19
re: coronado. In the late 90's I was in Oly WA for a week of training and I saw two matching natural walnut finish '67 Coronados for sale.
I understand the pickups are not stellar, but that could be fixed. :P

Story behind the 'Antigua' finish the guy told me:
When they were doing the install of the binding on the F holes, they burned it around the edges. or something like that. Then they just applied the same technique on all the edges to create the "Antigua" finish.

Ooops. Honestly it is not that visually appealing to me. But kind of a cool story.

No takers on the P bass neck.

Shit.

Oh well I will just keep posting it on Craiglist until I sell it. No rush.

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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Aug 2009, 20:35
'57 JAZZMASTER IS SO PRETTY.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 Sep 2009, 05:50
So last night I was conscripted to roadie for a bass clinic that was happening near me that my daughter and I were planning to attend.  Amongst the gear I hauled are the two basses pictured below.    These are the actual basses that are played when Deathklok tours.  The red one on the right was used on the first tour, but the T-bass on the left is the one used currently.   Down tuned an entire third.  Sheesh.

Excellent clinic by the way.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_3468.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Sep 2009, 10:08
You guys know I'm pretty smitten with my LP Junior clone, right? Well..thanks, Epiphone. I want to sell it now, and get this $380 beauty.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/4/2/613242.jpg)
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Post by: Aegir on 03 Sep 2009, 11:10
I've always wanted a semi-affordable semi-hollowbody. I stumbled upon this one the other day, the "Epiphone Limited Edition Riviera Custom P93". Selling for only $500 new, and that includes a hardshell case. When/if I finally get a job somewhere, I could afford this in just a few months.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/9/1/566991.jpg)
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 03 Sep 2009, 12:36
DO WANT.
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Post by: Merrick on 03 Sep 2009, 14:39
I wuvs my baby.

(http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/MintyM15/Picture0002-1.jpg)

Cost me £20. Or about $32.
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Post by: The Duke on 03 Sep 2009, 17:35
Score!
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Post by: Tehz on 03 Sep 2009, 19:20
You guys know I'm pretty smitten with my LP Junior clone, right? Well..thanks, Epiphone. I want to sell it now, and get this $380 beauty.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/4/2/613242.jpg)

Damn those are hot. I love the Batwing headstock.

I've been considering getting a Squier CV Telecaster but those are pretty tempting also. Swap out the stock pups for some Seymour Duncans and it would be a BEAST.
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Post by: Thrillho on 04 Sep 2009, 06:42
I just got a Danelectro '63. It's fucking hideous, and I fucking LOVE IT. It's like a car from the fifties, and it sounds great. The clean tone sings beautifully on all pickup settings, but better yet it's got a great dirty overdriven sound, great for punk and classic rock.

Here it is:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DynamiteKid156/DSCF0046.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v77/DynamiteKid156/DSCF0047.jpg)

It's the little things I like about it. Aside from its great tone and being so ugly that it's beautiful, I like the fact that where the strap pin is, it curves inwards instead of just being rounded off. I can't wait to play this guitar in a suit, because the contrast between it and what I'm wearing will be great.

It'll go great against my wedding suit.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Sep 2009, 09:24
I played a very hideously cute orange one at GC (whilst picking up yet another microphone). Fun. But the tuners looked suspiciously unreliable.
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Post by: Thrillho on 04 Sep 2009, 12:06
Yeah, it doesn't stay in tune that well, so it's not one for much soloing - but for big dumb chords it's fucking awesome.
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Sep 2009, 16:15
My Dead On '67 should be in tomorrow... god damn that is a hideous sexy guitar.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 04 Sep 2009, 21:12
Yeah, it doesn't stay in tune that well, so it's not one for much soloing - but for big dumb chords it's fucking awesome.

That's interesting.  The tuners on my Dano re-issue, which I think is from the late 90's, are excellent.  That guitar hardly ever goes out of tune.  I can leave it for a month and come back and it will still be in tune.
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Sep 2009, 05:49
Well everything else on the guitar is at such a high standard, something had to give, especially for under £200.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Sep 2009, 06:40
but for big dumb chords it's fucking awesome.

Dog, you have no clue how much I want a Dano after reading this. Seriously.

I like playing big dumb chords.
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Sep 2009, 07:10
I just played a bunch of songs by the Hives and Green Day and The Vines on it, and it worsk PERFECTLY for it, because it refuses to go any fuzzier than 'loud overdrive.' No matter what effects you put on it, it's still defiantly garage-punk. It's fucking glorious.

Also, oddly enough, it's tuning has stayed perfect today. I have no idea why it was so off yesterday (maybe humidity or something?) but today I've played it 90 minutes straight soloing all over the place and it still tunes perfectly.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Sep 2009, 07:59
Seriously, stop it! I'm supposed to be wanting that Wilshire, not a Dano.
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Post by: Thrillho on 05 Sep 2009, 09:00
NEVAR! I must spread the beauty of the Danelectro.
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Sep 2009, 14:59
God damn man you have EXCITED me.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 05 Sep 2009, 21:08
it refuses to go any fuzzier than 'loud overdrive.' No matter what effects you put on it, it's still defiantly garage-punk. It's fucking glorious.

As if I didn't want a Danelectro enough already  :lol:
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Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Sep 2009, 21:41
Yeah, the lipstick tubes have a really interesting output.  They don't get disgusting easily.  My Dano does clean so nicely, and then gets just a bit growly if I crank it up.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Sep 2009, 06:45
Okay now I'm waning. I need crazy motherfucking fuzzed out GWAARRRRRRHHHHHHHHGHHH sounds sometimes.

Edit: I put my LP Junior clone up for sale on OSG. If you want it, let me know. $430 shipped in the US.
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Post by: wespeakinmidi on 07 Sep 2009, 21:04
you guys are so funny... today i was at work thinking about how i wanted to trade in my 74' crestwood for one of those dano reissues.  i kind of have a hard on for them. 
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Post by: Thrillho on 09 Sep 2009, 09:43
Get one, man. They're fucking AWESOME.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 11 Sep 2009, 18:34
Now that I have a Tele (technically an ASAT) with a humbucker, I want a Jazzmaster style guitar.  I think that sometime in the (distant) future, I might follow Jeph and go after a Creston.  I'd love to get a Creston Jazzmaster with Bigsby and Lollar P-90's.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 12 Sep 2009, 18:35
Holy shit, this guitar (http://crestonguitars.com/guitars/detail.php?id=152) with the Lollar P-90's that look like Jazzmaster pickups.  That would be perfect.
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Post by: Commodore on 13 Sep 2009, 10:02
HI GUITAR THREAD

I'm in the market for a new acoustic-electric guitar, and I found an ad in the paper for a Carvin AC175 for 500 dollars.  Considering Carvin is selling that model for twice that price online, I am kind of excited about this.  However, before this recent flurry of guitar research after I got the wild hair up my ass to buy one, I had never heard of Carvin guitars.  Are they good guitars?
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Sep 2009, 11:45
Carvin's CAN be good. However if you need a repair to the electronics you'll be sending it back to them. And they may/may not fix it and send it back ignoring any detailed communications you may have sent with the guitar, described in email, and/or told them about on the phone. Also their resale value is crap.

Having said that, I've had mixed luck with Carvin, but have not actually purchased any guitar (only 1 bass). So probably worth it to by used maybe not retail.
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Sep 2009, 22:59
Steve Vai has his own signature line (http://www.carvinguitars.com/vai/) of Carvin amps. Judge as you will.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Sep 2009, 02:40
Hey whatever you think of Steve Vai's music or aesthetic you'd be pretty silly if you couldn't bring yourself to admit that the guy must know an awful lot about guitars+amps
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Post by: Ballard on 14 Sep 2009, 06:52
This is true. In fact, I've heard from a few reliable sources that those amps are fucking ace.

But I could not resist the crack.
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Sep 2009, 11:21
haha, yeah I have a Peavey 5150 combo. I think you could say I am about the least metal/Van(F%*%ing)Halen fan. But the amp when it was in good repair had AWESOME tone.
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Post by: Bearer on 16 Sep 2009, 07:59
My dad has this little old Peavy Backstage Plus 30W solid state monster.  He replaced the speaker with some celestron, and the thing has got some seriously great clean sounds if you dial it in right.  However, those magic settings are pretty hard to find.
(http://www.in8sworld.net/photos/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4730&g2_serialNumber=2)
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Sep 2009, 18:44
My Dano arrived today, and I'm fairly certain it's got to be one of the first to cross into the Great White North. It sounds great, even on my cheap Peavey Vyper 15. The pickups are really impressive, they go straight from a really nice clean tone to gain-fueled distortion mess; there is absolutely NO in-between, it's lovely.

Vibrato feels a lot sturdier than I thought it would, and it's really goddamn light. I think my strap weighs more than it does. I managed to pick it up for $325 CDN, I am in love. Pics forthcoming.
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 16 Sep 2009, 21:35
Next amount of money I get I'm probably buying a Dano, they're amazing.

I got an acoustic, and I was wondering do I need one of those humidifier thingies?

Does anyone know whether these things are actually useful.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Sep 2009, 21:49
Humidifiers are a Really Good Idea. They're cheap and, assuming you and your acoustic are in it for the long haul, prevent a lot of unfortunate environmental damage to your guitar over a reaaally long span of time.

//

Truly, red is the ballsiest of colors.

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5160/dano1.jpg)(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/1001/dano2j.jpg)
The left photo is almost exactly the shade of red that the guitar is -- the one on the left is just overexposed.
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Post by: Ballard on 16 Sep 2009, 22:54
Oh man please tell me the above Dano is a re-issue and not some vintage model you saw somewhere?

'cause DO WANT.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Sep 2009, 23:13
Tat is a very excellent looking guitar but I can never get over how when you're not looking too closely it looks like two guitars photoshopped together
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Sep 2009, 07:25
Gene, I believe that is the "Dead-On '67" reissue that just came out.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 17 Sep 2009, 08:34
I got an acoustic, and I was wondering do I need one of those humidifier thingies?

It depends.  Do you live/keep your guitar in a very humid area?  If not, then you don't need one, but if where you keep your guitar dries out, it would be a good idea.  Not only does it keep damage from happening (which becomes significant over a long period of time), it helps keep your guitar in the same tune in which you bought it, and keeps the neck just as playable as it always was.
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Post by: sean on 17 Sep 2009, 14:24
it is in matter of fact the dano reissue. i played one in guitar center its pretty cool.

in fact...

Melodic get one of those new danelectros! they only cost 350 and they sound pretty rad!

i win the thread forever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 17 Sep 2009, 15:47
o/
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Post by: Ballard on 17 Sep 2009, 19:02
If Dano made those in standard sunburst (though that would defeat the purpose of really cheap, nice-playing guitars) I would be jizzing all over my pants right now.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Sep 2009, 22:53
You guys suck, now i have to get a Dano as well.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2009, 10:31
So those Danos are all Baritones?
Also-
 http://www.compositeelectrics.com <---you guys will likely hate this. But me = spoooojed

(http://www.compositeelectrics.com/Images/Header/blade_4_large.jpg)


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Post by: E. Spaceman on 18 Sep 2009, 12:33
(http://www.fatdawg.com/dawgpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/0028049-R1-054-25A.jpg)


Seven hundo
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Post by: BlahBlah on 18 Sep 2009, 12:43
Is that a Travis Bean?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 18 Sep 2009, 12:54
Nope, Kramer. Still pretty sweet, and still aluminum enough for all your shellac/jesus lizard/etc. needs.

Also I really wanna try a carbon fiber guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 18 Sep 2009, 13:58
\o
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Sep 2009, 15:29
http://www.compositeelectrics.com <---you guys will likely hate this. But me = spoooojed

The neck in my electric bass has graphite in it and my bow is made of carbon fiber (metropolitan; David Gage's collaboration with CodaBows).  I also played a pit gig with a woman whose entire cello was made of carbon fiber.  She loved it, and it looked badass.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2009, 17:52
I play mostly a Parker Nitefly M that the fingerboard is carbon fiber. Slick as owl shit on terazza.

Shit is cool. Think I cold beat up 3 alt-country bands with the CE Blade and only suffer minor tuning problems. Or I could just be too beer drunk?
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 18 Sep 2009, 18:13
Naw, that sounds about right.  The review I read rated it as 2.5 alt country bands, but I saw a picture of the guy, and he was way scrawny.

With my electric bass, I once checked it on a flight from Charleston, SC -> Newark, NJ -> Washington, DC.  It was maybe 50-60F in Charleston, snowing in NJ and probably in the 40's in DC.  Also, keep in mind that it was in the cargo compartment.  I showed up at my rehearsal in DC and it was perfectly in tune.
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Post by: Melodic on 18 Sep 2009, 21:56
So those Danos are all Baritones?

Nope.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Sep 2009, 05:05
I've never played a baritone before, how awesome are they?
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Post by: Thrillho on 19 Sep 2009, 06:00
...Did I start a Dano trend, or was this happening anyway? My Dano is still fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Sep 2009, 11:41
So those Danos are all Baritones?

Nope.
okay. kool. I have enough trouble remembering to put pants on before going to work. Another tuning would totally f up my world. I coulda sworn I saw one in the burst 'finish' at GC last week. I think I'd have to opt for the bright orange or another unholy color. In fact the orange would look spiffy with my orange tolex avatar...

But then you could not beat up even one alt Country band without it shattering (so I'd have to carry my Mustang for that...)
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Post by: greenMonkey on 19 Sep 2009, 14:48
...Did I start a Dano trend, or was this happening anyway? My Dano is still fucking awesome.

This forum has had a collective boner for Dano's for a while now.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Sep 2009, 12:03
Danosexuals!
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Sep 2009, 14:44
Guitar thread,

You may remember me detailing the trouble UPS caused with my Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10. To recap, they dropped it and ran a forklift into it, thereby completely destroying it. I managed to get a refund and bought this:

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11350-1.jpg)

It is so much better.

Sovtek Mig-50 running through an Ampeg V-12. The lows are so meaty and the highs are perfectly below the land of shrill awfulness. Plus, It is loud. So loud.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 20 Sep 2009, 17:06
(http://ui16.gamespot.com/2607/capture2_2.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Sep 2009, 22:38
(http://faystar.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/orgasm060906_400x700.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Sep 2009, 07:21
Jeeebz. What's that Ampeg cabinet weigh?

EDIT

Also must...fight...Dano... GAS...while...Parker in the shop...next...week.
Seriously if that was a 2xhumbucker guitar I'd get one just as my new backup.
In other news, combining 2 trips to Greensboro to get both the Parker and the Line6 repaired at the same time is only saddened by the fact I cannot get both fixed at the same place EVEN though the one shop could do both (but doesn't have the warranty biz contract with Guitard Center). Will continue that part of the saga in Guitar Pederast Pedal thread...
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Post by: glyphic on 21 Sep 2009, 16:07
The guitar cab is actually not too heavy. However, I'm used to hauling around a 4x10 Ampeg bass cab which weighs almost as much as a neutron star.

The awesome thing about the cab is that the previous owner was an electrical engineer and wired it for stereo. Plus, he mounted sweet-ass doors on the front. Overall, I am pleased.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 21 Sep 2009, 20:27
Bigger is better.  I put wheels on my 1x15" bass cab, and they were maybe 1" to 1-1/2" and they just can't cut it on any rough terrain.  Aside from that, your local home improvement shop will probably have really cheap casters.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2009, 07:13
Ooooh, I might be trading that LP Junior clone for a Vista series Jagmaster. Sunburst/tort, but I'd likely refinish it in sherwood/british racing green.
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Post by: sean on 22 Sep 2009, 07:22
sam the dude has a point unless you can find some tiny ass rims.
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Sep 2009, 14:11
http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Blogs/Gibson-USA-Blog/September-2009/Live-From-the-Production-Line-at-Gibson-USA.aspx

Gentlemen, I present Gibson's Jimi Hendrix signature model...
(http://www2.gibson.com/getfile/2b43d7c1-f533-41d3-8218-1460adfbabfc/guitar-004.aspx)
(http://www2.gibson.com/getfile/1ee568e0-0474-42ec-84a0-e745dfdda3cc/guitar-006.aspx)
(http://www.guitarworld.com/sites/future.p2technology.com/files/imce-images/news-jh2.jpg)

Also:
http://www.guitarworld.com/article/gibson_amp_authentic_hendrix_announce_3_new_hendrix_guitars

... :?
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 23 Sep 2009, 14:35
I smell a lawsuit.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Sep 2009, 14:37
Gibsocaster is lame. I'm not a fan of sig guitars. But sig guitars that the signifier never played seems retarded. Meh, they are cheap.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 23 Sep 2009, 14:38
I find it ironic that Gibson sued PRS for the Singlecut being similar to the Les Paul, yet here they are, obviously ripping off Fender.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Sep 2009, 15:15
It's marketing to the parents. $400 gets you a guitar, amp, fuzz pedal. Just in time for Kwanzaa. In other news I am putting out a fiberglass rear wheel drive muscle car called the Coorveete.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 23 Sep 2009, 22:30
Oh my God that headstock is straight-up awful
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Sep 2009, 06:58
I...what?

WHAT?

I'm so confused.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 24 Sep 2009, 08:48
“What if the world’s greatest guitarist was still alive today, what guitar would he want to play?”


...a cheapo strat clone?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 24 Sep 2009, 14:58
But Andy Cohen is still alive?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 24 Sep 2009, 16:54
I was going to say that Paul Gilbert plays his own series of guitars (http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/Series-pgm).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Sep 2009, 21:42
...with fake f-holes.

Ladies and Gentlemen, the "Greatest" "Guitarist" "In" "The" "World"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Sep 2009, 21:43
WOW MAN THAT'S ALMOST AS COOL AS A FUCKING GUITAR WITH A HANDLE CUT OUT OF IT
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 24 Sep 2009, 21:48
Of course it's got fake f-holes.  How else could it be ridiculous while still being practical?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Sep 2009, 22:39
You aren't shittalking the "Fireman"?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Sep 2009, 01:19
Hey guys there is a class action lawsuit that has been filed against Guitar Center and NAMM for conspiring to fix prices.

The lawsuit also alleges that Guitar Center attempted to quash competition from online retailers by threatening to boycott suppliers that dealt with online stores.

If you bought a fretted instrument (guitar, bass, banjo, mandolin, violin etc. etc.) from Guitar Center between 2005 & 2007 you are eligible to join the class action here (http://www.hbsslaw.com/frontend?command=JoinClassAction&iLawsuitId=2075).

Fuck Guitar Center.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Sep 2009, 01:21
Also while I'm at it Fuck This Product (http://www.shredneck.com/index.html)

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Sep 2009, 05:18
WOW MAN THAT'S ALMOST AS COOL AS A FUCKING GUITAR WITH A HANDLE CUT OUT OF IT
What if it had fake cut-out handles? That would be teh w1n!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 25 Sep 2009, 10:16
Ok. Hold on. What the fuck is the Shredneck?! When would that EVER be more practical than just using a guitar?!


Fake edit:

Oh! When you're on an airplane and just can't contain your urge to totally mash out some sick Slayer riffs! Assuming, of course, the damn thing doesn't get confiscated at security for looking exactly like a mace.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Sep 2009, 10:22
I spent a solid half-hour on that website trying to work out why anybody would ever buy one of those things. Still stumped.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 25 Sep 2009, 10:28
I love the slideshow at top-right. It looks to me like nearly everyone is holding the stupid thing upside down. Unless that's how you're supposed to hold it. Are you supposed to strum the damned thing? I don't understand a single thing about it!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Sep 2009, 10:30
You aren't shittalking the "Fireman"?

Apparently it's more obvious that one's a joke?  They're all jokes, which is my favorite part.  I'm not sure if Paul Gilbert has the capacity to be serious.

Also, I've discovered a use for the Shredneck!  No, wait, I haven't.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Sep 2009, 12:38
When they come out with my signature model, you'll have to pre-pay for the motherf()cker. They guitar will be delivered to ME once you pay for it. I'll play it until I get drunk and leave it somewhere. The only unique feature will be a homing beacon/gps/thang that will tell you what pawn shop/land fill/whorehouse/blacklightenemapit it ended up at.
People with un-butt smelling pristine EC sig guitarz will be scorned in the best cases and torn to shreds (hubris style) in the worse. Whoever rips off the peen gets to keep that axe. But they have to abuse it. So basically only retarded people would want one, or more PC stated, people whose moms bought them the Gibsofuckasterator pictured above.
The end. Vote for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Sep 2009, 13:23
I love the slideshow at top-right. It looks to me like nearly everyone is holding the stupid thing upside down. Unless that's how you're supposed to hold it. Are you supposed to strum the damned thing? I don't understand a single thing about it!

yeah the the tuners are at the bottom. Look at the inlays.



Still doesn't make sense though. It would be more practical to practice on a fuckin' Rock Band controller.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Sep 2009, 14:54
people whose moms bought them the Gibsofuckasterator pictured above.

Hey, man.  Some very decent people have parents who just have no fucking clue.  So, you should change that probably to "people whose moms bought them the Gibsofuckasterator pictured above, on purpose.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Stewey on 27 Sep 2009, 03:14
Oh awesome, a guitar thread.  :-D

The bit I don't get about the Jimi guitar is why aren't Fender making it? :?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Sep 2009, 05:25
I dont know guys, I've seen the build fotos, and while it is even worse than epiphone, could it be worse than squier? Me thinks naught.

I wouldnt buy it, since (I think) I'm out of starter pack league, but still, seems interesting.

Ugly strats ftw.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Sep 2009, 12:39
FUCK YES YOU GUYS I FOUND A FUCKING GIBSON SG-1 AND IT IS NOW MINE FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Sep 2009, 13:42
Pics please.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 27 Sep 2009, 13:51
I dont know guys, I've seen the build fotos, and while it is even worse than epiphone, could it be worse than squier? Me thinks naught.

I wouldnt buy it, since (I think) I'm out of starter pack league, but still, seems interesting.

Ugly strats ftw.

Attack! Attack! is even worse than Hawthorne Heights, but could they be worse than Brokencyde?


the problem is not if it is the lowest end of the ladder but rather that it exists at all
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 27 Sep 2009, 19:47
The fact that I don't know any of those bands really does make me happy. This however, proves your point:

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Pianos/Grand/Baldwin-Custom/Jimi-Hendrix.aspx

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3643/3360654016_26c61a7dd3.jpg)

If he wasn't long dead already, this would definately be it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 27 Sep 2009, 22:14
Your link is no good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 27 Sep 2009, 22:52
I saw a bottle of "Jimi Hendrix Electric" Vodka in a Liquor store in St Louis a while ago. The booze was probably shit but the bottle looked kind of cool
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BaneAtvar on 28 Sep 2009, 10:29
link corrected.

Apologies, apologies.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Sep 2009, 06:00
What the hell didn't the Jimi Hendrix estate used to be really stingy with who they'd license stuff for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2009, 06:38
Guys, my girlfriend bought an acoustic guitar yesterday! I'm going to be teaching her how to play.

I am pretty excited, not gonna lie.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 29 Sep 2009, 10:37
I was in that position once. It was horrible. The girlfriend at the time didn't take kindly to instruction, though. Plus, "THE STRINGS HURT MY FINGERS!"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 29 Sep 2009, 11:35
Srsly be careful with that. If she sticks with it at all, have her take lessons; from someone else. But then you might be a great teacher. So, maybe I should just stfu.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 29 Sep 2009, 11:55
want some of that Hendrix purple drank.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Sep 2009, 06:59
I was in that position once. It was horrible. The girlfriend at the time didn't take kindly to instruction, though. Plus, "THE STRINGS HURT MY FINGERS!"

Haha. She just wants me to teach her basic chords and how to read tab. She's taking a basic guitar class at college next semester.

And for the fingers, probably not a problem. She already plays cello and violin, among others.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 01 Oct 2009, 06:49
*wink wink nudge nudge*
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Oct 2009, 20:47
Guys, it occurred to me today that I haven't played electric guitar in over a month, because both my electrics and my amp are back at home, and I'm at college (I do have my acoustic though).  I miss making loud noises!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 05 Oct 2009, 11:17
Guys i played (a guitar that looked just like) this Saturday and DID NOT buy it. I has a sad.
(http://www.rocknrollweekend.com/T-60%201979%20-%20full%20V.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 05 Oct 2009, 14:51
T-60s are effin' gorgeous. Why didn't you buy it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Tehz on 05 Oct 2009, 20:03
Oh guys, I played one of those Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics yesterday. I AM IN FUCKING LOVE OH MY GOD I COULD NOT PUT IT DOWN

AND IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 05 Oct 2009, 20:55
Oh guys, I played one of those Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics yesterday. I AM IN FUCKING LOVE OH MY GOD I COULD NOT PUT IT DOWN

AND IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS



i was wondering about those. I like the look of them, but I'm gonna resist. Too many Squiers, I want a bona fide Fender nao
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Oct 2009, 21:15
Oh guys, I played one of those Squier Classic Vibe Duo-Sonics yesterday. I AM IN FUCKING LOVE OH MY GOD I COULD NOT PUT IT DOWN

AND IT'S ONLY LIKE THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS



Yes.  If I hadn't purchased my Tribute ASAT, I would have picked up one of these.  They are awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 06 Oct 2009, 05:27
T-60s are effin' gorgeous. Why didn't you buy it?
"Big" "Tour" (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,23910.0.html) coming up. Have to save for diesel fuel, cheetohs, dog boarding, motels...etc..
That T-60 was sweet though. Kind of rough hew looking yet obviously the kind of indestructo guitar one should have in a guitar fight.

In other news, my Nitefly is done at the shop and I'm waiting for my POD to be fixed (parts from CA). So I've been going through the stable of backup guitars to take with on the aforementioned outing. It's come down to my first stick: the '78 Mustang. Also playing through just the TT/Avatar rig with no signal processing has been an eye opener. If I just had a guitar gnome to run over and turn the three knobs on the TTerror at specific times in the songs I'd be set with just that gear alone. The competition was between the 95MIM Tele (crap bridge disqualified it); the 72 Acoustic Black Widow (great on some settings to meh on others, noisy assed pickups) , and the Yamaha AEX500 (bad luck to take a guitar my ex-wife bought for me, more of an acoustic axe, 11 guage flat wounds, not a good unprocessed through my rig sound should summat bad happen on the road).

In other nudes, I'm told we 'have' to use the clubs backline cabinets at the Chicago show. So, GUYS I get to play the Tiny Terror through a Marshall 4x12 cabinet. Awesome? Or not?

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Oct 2009, 07:22
Should sound pretty epic.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 06 Oct 2009, 08:09
If I just had a guitar gnome to run over and turn the three knobs on the TTerror at specific times in the songs I'd be set with just that gear alone.

We had a similar problem in a band I used to be in.  Our solution was to train a monkey.  Unfortunately, that proved to be slightly more expensive than anticipated and didn't really pan out.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 06 Oct 2009, 08:29

In other nudes, I'm told we 'have' to use the clubs backline cabinets at the Chicago show. So, GUYS I get to play the Tiny Terror through a Marshall 4x12 cabinet. Awesome? Or not?
That's Steven Malkmus' touring rig with the Jicks. It sounded fantastic when I saw them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Oct 2009, 08:37
I forgot about that! Malkmus sounded amazing when I saw the Jicks last year.

Guys, Gibson's..aw fuck it, you figure out what they did this time that's pissed me off.


(hint: they're making a robot LP Special, but calling it an LP Junior)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 06 Oct 2009, 10:38
RE: G&L Guitars

The town I'm going to college in has a guitar shop that sells G&L guitars, and I've tried both an ASAT Special and a Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow and I absolutely adore both of them.  They play so incredibly well.

This shop also sells Barber effects.  This makes me incredibly happy.
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Post by: Bearer on 06 Oct 2009, 16:02
A black Gretsch Electromatic with a bigsby came into the pawn shop near my house and they want $430 for the beauty.  As much as I actually want to make the next guitar I own, that is a damn tempting offer.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 06 Oct 2009, 17:13
RE: G&L Guitars

The town I'm going to college in has a guitar shop that sells G&L guitars, and I've tried both an ASAT Special and a Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow and I absolutely adore both of them.  They play so incredibly well.

This shop also sells Barber effects.  This makes me incredibly happy.

Classic Bluesboy Semi-Hollow.  I loves mine so much!

Also, where do you go to college?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 06 Oct 2009, 22:10
I have a potentially silly question! I went out and bought a gig bag for my Dano, and it fits fine but the case puts a wee bit of pressure on the vibrato arm. Seeing as it's basically a metal matchstick anyway, I'm worried that it might snap, or that the continuous pressure on the bridge would be bad. Am I being paranoid?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 07 Oct 2009, 04:04
I don't think so. More likely to get the bridge/springs out of whack. Can you take it off before you put it in the gig bag? That way you'll lose it in a week; problem solved.
 :-P
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Post by: Chad K. on 13 Oct 2009, 09:44
So, anybody have any good recommendations for quirky online guitar shops?  Currently my favorite are these guys-

http://www.diamondstrings.com  Lots of 60's and 70's european stuff.  (Doombilly- given your sweet acoustic black widow, I would think the washburn falcons would be right up your alley).  I bought a bass from Bruce Diamond a while back.  He was very easy to deal with.

Also, http://www.fatdawg.com .  I've mentioned these guys before; they have lots of weird stuff. The really cool aspect is that they bought up a lot of fender and danelectro parts when their respective american plants closed.  You can get strats, teles and danos assembled from vintage american parts for around $400.  I've never used them, but I hear some pretty mixed reviews about customer service.

Anybody else have online stores they dig?  (Don't even think about posting GC or MF.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 13 Oct 2009, 09:51
Jimmy Gravity's is a local shop, but they do online orders. Does that count?

www.gravitystrings.com (http://www.gravitystrings.com)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Oct 2009, 10:39
Also, http://www.fatdawg.com .  I've mentioned these guys before; they have lots of weird stuff. The really cool aspect is that they bought up a lot of fender and danelectro parts when their respective american plants closed.  You can get strats, teles and danos assembled from vintage american parts for around $400.  I've never used them, but I hear some pretty mixed reviews about customer service.

Patrick and I had all the intention in the world of going there last October, but alas, they're apparently closed on Sundays. Dammit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Oct 2009, 10:40
I am banning myself from guitar purchases for a while. Got leads on gigs in Savannah GA and NYC. Must save for diesel fuel, lodging.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 13 Oct 2009, 11:16
Jimmy Gravity's is a local shop, but they do online orders. Does that count?

www.gravitystrings.com (http://www.gravitystrings.com)

I'm originally from St. Louis.  That is an awesome shop, and the best place in the country to get guitarwork done as far as I'm concerned.  I also really dig Eddie's Guitars, although that's more high-end stuff. 

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 13 Oct 2009, 12:39
http://www.diamondstrings.com  Lots of 60's and 70's european stuff.  (Doombilly- given your sweet acoustic black widow, I would think the washburn falcons would be right up your alley).  I bought a bass from Bruce Diamond a while back.  He was very easy to deal with.

Man, I haven't seen a site that pretty since my first meeting with the internet in 1999.

A black Gretsch Electromatic with a bigsby came into the pawn shop near my house and they want $430 for the beauty.  As much as I actually want to make the next guitar I own, that is a damn tempting offer.

Are you talking about the semi-hollow or the Pro Jet? The former, in my experience, sound and feel cheap. Also IIRC they retailed for like $500.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Oct 2009, 07:10
I sold my Les Paul Jr. clone.

Am now debating putting a GFS Dream 90 in the neck position of my Tele Custom, because I love that neck-position P-90 sound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 14 Oct 2009, 08:48
Anybody else have online stores they dig?  (Don't even think about posting GC or MF.)

I've got fairly the opposite, but in a way that will not help anybody.  It's Lemur music, which is a bass shop, but primarily for upright players.  Don't buy anything there, and encourage nobody else to buy anything there.  I bought an amp from them, because they're pretty much the place you buy from if you're an upright player and don't have a shop in your area.  Well, it was obviously used and didn't work right.  I sent it back to them and they sent me a new one, but I had to eat the shipping costs for the shitty one because I didn't make a big enough fuss over it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 14 Oct 2009, 11:01
May I suggest these guys if you're looking to do online bass business- http://www.thebassplace.com  They are amazing, and know their stuff.  Small shop, but with a pretty big selection.  The best time to hit them up is right safter NAMM.  They buy up a lot of the NAMM exhibit pieces and sell them pretty cheaply.  I've dealt them with them quite a bit.  I would think bass emporium would be good too; they get a lot of lip service- http://www.bassemporium.com/ I don't have any one on one experience, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 14 Oct 2009, 11:22
I have actually spoken with the guys from the Bass Emporium.  After my last amp got stolen, I needed a new one really fast, but the new model of the amp I wanted/previously owned had just come out and no one the old one and the new one was sold out.  I ended up calling every Acoustic Image vendor in the country.  A small place in MA ended up getting back to me a couple weeks later.

p.s.  If you like amps that sound clean and amazing, are light and have a fantastic service department, check out Acoustic Image.  I'd be hard-pressed to find an amp that I enjoy more (I do like David Eden amps, but they're crazy expensive and heavy).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Oct 2009, 12:16
Where's the best place to try to sell an electric bass or part of one (that is not eBay)?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 14 Oct 2009, 12:55
Depends on what it is.  The obvious choice is always craigslist.  If it's weird, I'd think about contacting Diamondstrings.  Otherwise, http://www.talkbass.com is good, but requires a $30 membership.  I've sold tons of stuff there and it always goes well. Alternatively, for no money you could sell at http://www.tdpri.com.  It's a telecaster forum, so they tend to be more guitar oriented, but they definitely do have people selling basses there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2009, 08:02
Gibson, just..just stop. STOP. Alright? Stop.

(http://images.gibson.com/Files/8e5bad70-b669-4e43-a387-6bc7af02cb34.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Oct 2009, 08:06
I would love it without the sharkbite. Gibson should stop putting holes in their old models and calling them new ones.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 25 Oct 2009, 10:54
anyone up for a shark core band?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 25 Oct 2009, 10:54
i guess its like crabcore except you faux swim around the place yr playing and eat yr fans.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 25 Oct 2009, 13:15
instead of stock MicroKorg settings all the samples are taken from Jaws
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 25 Oct 2009, 13:21
Here's my dilemma.

I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

However, next year my grade goes on a trip to Europe which will cost much money.  

So my choices are:

A.) Buy the guitar now and work my ass off next summer to pay off the trip

B.) Don't buy the guitar, work up all my money again from scratch, get the guitar much later

C.) Don't go on the trip or buy the guitar, save all my money for an even better guitar (or something)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Oct 2009, 15:25


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Seriously, someone tell me this is a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Oct 2009, 15:27
Also, 7-string explorer. Thoughts, anyone?
I want one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Oct 2009, 15:35
I want one too, but the Sharksplorer is just pushing it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Oct 2009, 17:00
Gibson, just..just stop. STOP. Alright? Stop.

All silliness aside, no one else is going to mention that this is just an egregious rip-off of the Dean Dime?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Me2MqiNlsJw/R7bsKUk9b2I/AAAAAAAAATY/Y_RqhPywRd4/S1600-R/pantera.jpg)

Remember when Gibson used to sue people for shit like this?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Oct 2009, 17:43
Ok, so since we're on the topic of weird, short-run Gibson guitars, I might as well show off one they got right.

The SG-I. More precisely, MY SG-I!

I found this one at a vintage guitar fair, and just had to bring it home. I've been looking for one of these forfuckingever, and now FINALLY one turned up!
So, less yappy, more.... Pics.


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0831.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0845.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0848.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0846.jpg)

And now for the artsy pics with a wide angle lens:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0832.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0834.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0833.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0856.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0860.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0855.jpg)


Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Oct 2009, 00:09
Beautiful. How much did it cost?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Oct 2009, 06:34
I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

Don't buy a Robot. BE A FUCKING MAN AND TUNE YOUR OWN GUITAR.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 26 Oct 2009, 07:37
Here's my dilemma.

I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

However, next year my grade goes on a trip to Europe which will cost much money.  

So my choices are:

A.) Buy the guitar now and work my ass off next summer to pay off the trip

B.) Don't buy the guitar, work up all my money again from scratch, get the guitar much later

C.) Don't go on the trip or buy the guitar, save all my money for an even better guitar (or something)

Thoughts?

The first question would be what kind of amp do you have.  There is no point in buying a >$1,000 guitar if you are playing out of a 15W solid state amp.  If you have enough money for a Gibson robot there is absolutely no point in saving up more for a different guitar because you can afford a guitar (with a lot of options at that) that will sound and play as well as anyone else can tell, unless you want a really pretty boutique guitar.  In fact you can find a great variety of guitars that play as well as a Studio for around half of what you are looking at dropping.  You would be able to get a guitar and have about half your trip money left over, so it wouldn't be as much of a problem to save up the rest in time.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 26 Oct 2009, 13:36
I'm probably going to buy a Gibson Les Paul Studio (possibly a Robot because the store's having a sale) but that will literally cost all the money I have (I'm still in high school, so I don't have much to spend).

Don't buy a Robot. BE A FUCKING MAN AND TUNE YOUR OWN GUITAR.

I honestly probably wouldn't use the tuning funtion that much, it's just that only the Robots are on sale, so it saves money to get one instead of a regular Studio.


Radical AC: can you give some examples of these lower-priced guitars?  I am interested in looking into this.
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Post by: jeph on 26 Oct 2009, 20:03
Okay that sharkfin guitar is yet another entry in the Gibson Parade Of Retarded Instruments, and I have no real use for a 7-string, but damn if this guitar does not give me a chubby:

(http://images.gibson.com/Files/e58805a5-7796-45e6-84c7-e95bf2230aed.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Oct 2009, 23:41
 8-)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Oct 2009, 00:58
I must admit I want one too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2009, 06:36
...Yeah. Want.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 28 Oct 2009, 05:34
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1268/885350055_0bd4a365e2.jpg)
This is a Chinese made Fender Squire "master series" set-neck, 2 humbucker, thinline telecaster.  Ran from '05-'08.  Isn't the best quality (plywood top), but there's one sitting in my local pawnshop.  If I can manage to use my bullshit guitar nerd cred to haggle the price down from their $300 (it was $500 or so new), I may just snag it, but they also have a portable power planer, which would prove infinitely more useful in the construction of my own shoddily assembled instruments, and it's only $150.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Oct 2009, 08:46
Needs a '72 pickguard, but it it seems like an okay deal, how's the sound?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Oct 2009, 09:12
Wouldn't work. It's a carved top, IIRC.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 28 Oct 2009, 13:01
In the future I envision, all guitars have pickguards.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 28 Oct 2009, 13:54
Actually, that tele is a flat top.  As far as sound goes, the amps they had in the pawn shop were all pretty awful, so I couldn't get any real idea, but I imagine it would sound pretty good.  The Pickups are seymour duncans of some kind.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 28 Oct 2009, 14:40
In the future I envision, all guitars have pickguards.

I think lots of guitars (Les Pauls in particular) look much better without a pickguard.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2009, 06:31
Actually, that tele is a flat top.  As far as sound goes, the amps they had in the pawn shop were all pretty awful, so I couldn't get any real idea, but I imagine it would sound pretty good.  The Pickups are seymour duncans of some kind.

One guitar from that line won an Editor's Pick from Guitar Player, but I can't remember if it was that Tele or the Espirit.

The pickups are Duncan Designed, btw.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 29 Oct 2009, 06:50
I'm sorry, DO NOT BELIEVE THESE Magazine EDITOR PICKS. That is solely based on ad revenue. I actually once bought an Epiphone based on said "Picks." After doing some serious mods just to make the frets level I had to ultimately send it back because the electric part of the guitar just crapped out. Within half a yr the entire product line had been cancelled. In fact I'll go as fat to say, you would be better off just buying a used copy of Camel Jugs or Furry Fisting Weekly than Guitar Player. Oh well it all turned out well, my first wife conceded that I deserved a better guitar and I still have that Yamaha. (Not so much the 1st wife)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 29 Oct 2009, 14:00
Absolutely.  Other advice being that one should generally never buy a new Gibson les paul, ever (new as in paying full price).  Take that $1500+ and pay a visit to your local Luthier instead (that or follow Jeph's advice and head over to Mr.Creston's site (http://crestonguitars.com/)).  A much happier player you will surely be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 29 Oct 2009, 14:28
Another similar option would be the Electrical Guitar Company. Well, not similar in the kind of instrument, but similar in being another thing one would be wiser to spend 2500+ bucks on in lieu of a Les Paul.

Also, aluminum
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 29 Oct 2009, 14:31
I know someone who will only play Les Pauls, not because he thinks they sound or play better than other guitars, but because he's had better luck with them not breaking.  He's apparently very hard on his guitar, so there's that.  I can't really say much other than just presenting his case because I don't really play guitar, and my primary instrument (upright bass) is actually quite fragile no matter what you buy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 29 Oct 2009, 20:50
Although within my experience, Les Pauls aren't as good for use in fights.  Unless you can get a solid hit on someone (which will be very powerful due to their weight), I would recommend something lighter, such as a Strat.

I am in dire need of sleep.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Oct 2009, 23:56
Man, my ltd ec-1000 is SO much better than any les paul i've ever tried. Sustain for days. It came perfectly set up as well.
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Post by: Melodic on 30 Oct 2009, 00:02
My Dano would be the switchblade of guitar jousting.

Also I have been using lots of different picks recently and so now my pickups have collected what amounts to rainbow dust.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 30 Oct 2009, 04:28
I check this thread because some of these guitars are so beautiful. And I don't even play guitar!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Oct 2009, 06:07
Although within my experience, Les Pauls aren't as good for use in fights.  Unless you can get a solid hit on someone (which will be very powerful due to their weight), I would recommend something lighter, such as a Strat.

I am in dire need of sleep.

In Warhammer 40000 terms, the Les Paul would count as a Powerfist or Thunder Hammer; It packs a mighty wallop, but you always strike last.

Seriously though, for a fight I'd bring a Tele. The Bolt-On neck is sturdier, plus Keith Richards says they are the best for knocking motherfuckers out.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Noff on 30 Oct 2009, 06:41
Supposedly Pete Townshend liked his Gibsons because they were easier to smash... 

I think I would go with a tele as well, it has that nice long bolt on neck to swing it around with and the body has some relatively sharp edges to it.  In a pinch a forceful poke with the headstock could probably do some damage too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 30 Oct 2009, 07:07
Although within my experience, Les Pauls aren't as good for use in fights.  Unless you can get a solid hit on someone (which will be very powerful due to their weight), I would recommend something lighter, such as a Strat.

Strat would be more durable. You could scarcely kill one alt-country band with a Les Paul. AND you'd have to tune afterwards. I put my 9000 lb '78 Ultimate Fighting Mustang against all comers.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/302084653_7b7ccd5e3e_m.jpg)

Seriously if you ever see us live and I haven't broken a string on the parker, If I strap this bithc on there's about to be a fuss. Get out your camera and your helmet.
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Post by: glyphic on 30 Oct 2009, 07:39
(http://www.thatchspace.com/wp-pictures/baphomet2.jpg)

+1 to summoning, +3 versus good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Oct 2009, 08:39
Seriously though, for a fight I'd bring a Tele. The Bolt-On neck is sturdier, plus Keith Richards says they are the best for knocking motherfuckers out.

This is correct.
You know why they make cases for Teles? To protect other guitars from them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 30 Oct 2009, 08:39
+1 to the Telecaster being my weapon of choice in a battle situation.  But if I had a Gibbo in dire straights, I'd want my Firebird.  Neck through walnut and mahogany construction?  Much sturdier than an LP imo.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0991.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Oct 2009, 09:38
I am at some point getting a custom-built 7-string for my Grindcore band, and I am certain I need a neckthrough, because of the durability.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 30 Oct 2009, 09:47
+1 to the Telecaster being my weapon of choice in a battle situation.  But if I had a Gibbo in dire straights, I'd want my Firebird.  Neck through walnut and mahogany construction?  Much sturdier than an LP imo.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0991.jpg)

just jizzed all over myself

thanks
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Oct 2009, 10:03
Welcome to "wish I hadn't traded my Firebird", goddamn.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 30 Oct 2009, 10:21
Well, I just discovered the guitar that I'm going to be devoting 10% of my paycheck to for the next year.

Firebird, here I come.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 30 Oct 2009, 10:37
+1 to the Telecaster being my weapon of choice in a battle situation.  But if I had a Gibbo in dire straights, I'd want my Firebird.  Neck through walnut and mahogany construction?  Much sturdier than an LP imo.

just jizzed all over myself

thanks

Yeah, it's a great sounding guitar, not to mention drop dead gorgeous.  They only thing I don't like about it is the way switching works.  It goes neck/mid+bridge/bridge.  Next week I'm going to replace the three-way switch with one designed for an SG (a right angle 2 pickup toggle (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Components:_Switches_and_knobs/3-way_Pickup_Switches/Right-angle_Switch.html)), wire the neck and bridge pickups to that, then hook the middle to a push/pull switch (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Potentiometers/Push-pull_Pots.html).  Preliminary tests show this to be so so so good.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Oct 2009, 12:20
That is the best looking firebird, nay, guitar i've ever seen. I'm serious.
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Post by: Radical AC on 30 Oct 2009, 17:00
Speaking of custom and metal guitars, I lust after Jack White's Triple Jet made by Randy Parsons.  Custom 1912 Gretsch headstock, and a copper to so it will NEVER run out of power.  Something like that.  I'm thinking of having a similar imitation done of my Rick Liverpool.  After I rob a series of banks.
(http://www.gretsch-talk.com/forum/members/the3rdmugician-albums-jack-whites-triple-jet-picture1237-triple-jet.jpg)

Isaac Brock's custom Wicks guitar is pretty sick too;
(http://www.wicksguitars.com/gallery/galleries/Isaacs_Custom/IsaacBrocksGuitar.jpg)

Radical AC: can you give some examples of these lower-priced guitars?  I am interested in looking into this.

This is kind of a hard question to answer as it all comes down to what you want out of your guitar.  A certain type of construction?  A brand name?  Body style, pickup configuration, ect.  You could get a comparable (http://www.rondomusic.com/alspec.html) Agile AL series from Rondo Music.  A lot of people seem to have a thing for Danelectro's, cheap good guitars, but the way they play is completely different from a LP.  I just saw Becky Black from The Pack AD shred up some of the most ridiculous blues riffs I have EVER seen using an old model LTD H series you could pick up on ebay for $200, lots of great crunchy tones and not muddy at all.  (She did have a nice JVM Marshal combo, though)  Personal preference; Schecter's C series has some great, decently priced guitars.  Gretsch's solidbody electromatics sound great (I've seen the guitarist from Manchester Orchestra use them)  Eastwood has some really reasonably priced funky and awesome guitars.  I have a $200 and $2000 guitar, and use both.  I'm sure a lot of the other people here would know a lot more examples of inexpensive quality.

I am at some point getting a custom-built 7-string for my Grindcore band, and I am certain I need a neckthrough, because of the durability.

If I were to get a 7 string it would definitely be a Carvin DC747 (http://www.carvinguitars.com/catalog/guitars/index.php?model=dc747).  Neck-thru, HSH w/ 5 way selector, and damn near custom everything else. (The scroll over pics they have on their site make me punch myself in the crotch)
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Oct 2009, 18:25
I feel like a BC Rich could stab someone to death...also, I believe that they have black magic powers.

Radical AC: can you give some examples of these lower-priced guitars?  I am interested in looking into this.
I'm sure a lot of the other people here would know a lot more examples of inexpensive quality.

Other people?  What are thine opinions?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 30 Oct 2009, 21:25
Again, it depends on what you are looking for.  WHY specifically do you want a LP?  What kind of amp do you have?  What kind of sound are you looking for?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2009, 07:18
Speaking of "we like Danos", I'm trying to swing a trade for this beauty.

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Danelectro%20U1/CIMG0414.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 31 Oct 2009, 07:44
8-)
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 Oct 2009, 08:03
Deal off. I just got two emails. One from the guy who bought the guitar I was trying to sell on ebay and hadn't heard from in like two weeks, and another from PayPal, saying he'd sent me my goddamned $235.

*whistle* I might just buy a GFS Mean 90 for my Tele, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 31 Oct 2009, 11:25
Again, it depends on what you are looking for.  WHY specifically do you want a LP?  What kind of amp do you have?  What kind of sound are you looking for?

Right now, all I have is a Roland 20W practice amp, but looking to upgrade ASAP.

As to why, Les Pauls just feel the best to me.

I'm looking for a classic rock-type sound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Nov 2009, 05:45
Yeah, that sounds pretty Les Pauly to me. That or an SG.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Nov 2009, 09:12
Again, it depends on what you are looking for.  WHY specifically do you want a LP?  What kind of amp do you have?  What kind of sound are you looking for?

Right now, all I have is a Roland 20W practice amp, but looking to upgrade ASAP.

As to why, Les Pauls just feel the best to me.

I'm looking for a classic rock-type sound.

Are you sure you want to be left trem-less?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 01 Nov 2009, 16:38
Explain.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Nov 2009, 21:38
Without a trem you can't do awesome things like make your guitar go NEEEAAAAAOOOOORRRRRRMMMMMBWOOONGNGNONGONGONGONGONGONGONG which then devolve into ear-stabbing feedback.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Nov 2009, 00:20
Retrofit that LP with a Bigsby because that is the best thing

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2009/6-superstars_OldBlack-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Nov 2009, 06:28
That's what I did with my Junior clone, though it was more to enhance string tension.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 02 Nov 2009, 09:43
Mr.Young's LP also has a P-90 in the neck and a Firebird mini-humbucker in the the bridge.  Ol'Black is such a badass guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Nov 2009, 10:40
I'm planning to put a bigsby b7 in my ec-1000. Good idea y/n?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 02 Nov 2009, 13:41
Retrofit that LP with a Bigsby because that is the best thing

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2009/6-superstars_OldBlack-1.jpg)

Sounds like a plan.  Neil Young FTW.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Nov 2009, 20:44
GUYS

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Pacafeliz/Guitars/DSC00747.jpg)

THIS CAME HOME FROM THE POST OFFICE TODAY AND IS STRAPPED TO MY SHOULDERS RIGHT GODDAMN NOW

BE JEALOUS
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 02 Nov 2009, 21:18
I really like your fret markers. Can you buy those?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 03 Nov 2009, 04:24
Damn Patrick. Not crazy about overly orangey bursts. But CHICKEN HEAD! AWESOME!
Lose the pickguard. Freakin' beautiful. Does it sound/play as good as it looks?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Nov 2009, 05:27
Is all the gear behind it yours?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Nov 2009, 07:03
No, that belongs to a guy on OSG known solely as "The Patron Saint of GAS". Same guy I got my LP Junior clone from.

Of course, that's on its way to Texas now. I'm using some of the money to buy a pair of vintage white witch hats from another dude on OSG, and electronics/tuners from Guitarfetish.

Yep. I'm going to start building a Partsmaster. I'm envisioning a yellowed white finish, tortoise shell guard, and very straightforward electronics (no rhythm circuit). Big CBS headstock. I'm taking inspiration from Stephen Malkmus' Jazzmaster, but adding my own touches to it.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/040408_21221.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 03 Nov 2009, 07:07
https://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2009/Nov/Gallery_Guitars_of_the_Country_Music_Hall_of_Fame_and_Museum.aspx?Page=20&#gallery

I like Mother Maybelle's. A lot of these, not so much.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Nov 2009, 09:38
No, that belongs to a guy on OSG known solely as "The Patron Saint of GAS". Same guy I got my LP Junior clone from.

Of course, that's on its way to Texas now. I'm using some of the money to buy a pair of vintage white witch hats from another dude on OSG, and electronics/tuners from Guitarfetish.

Yep. I'm going to start building a Partsmaster. I'm envisioning a yellowed white finish, tortoise shell guard, and very straightforward electronics (no rhythm circuit). Big CBS headstock. I'm taking inspiration from Stephen Malkmus' Jazzmaster, but adding my own touches to it.


Are you going to post it on OSG?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Nov 2009, 10:07
If and when I ever finish it, of course!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2009, 12:00
I went into my local shop today to see if they had any guitar shipping boxes in the back room, so I can send off my LP Junior clone tomorrow.

The guys there are pretty cool and hooked me up with one for free, but also made me sit down and try out EHX's .22 Caliber (http://www.ehx.com/products/22-caliber) power amp. I was plugged into a Fender Deluxe 1x12" cab and had a newer MXR Distortion +...VERY NICE for the minute or two I was playing through it (with an MIM Tele).

I've been GASing for a little 5 watt tube amp lately, but the .22 is a nice sounding amp. And only $100 for a 22 watt solid-state head that fits in the palm of your hand?! I might just be sold.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Nov 2009, 21:05
Speaking of "we like Danos", I'm trying to swing a trade for this beauty.

(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q243/tincob/Danelectro%20U1/CIMG0414.jpg)
I played a two pickup version of that yesterday. I hated the sound of the bridge pickup though. It just sounded so weak.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 05 Nov 2009, 21:44
My Dano U-1 has pretty low pickup output as well.  While this can be frustrating at times, it also makes a very good clean tone through my Fender Champ 600.  My Tribute ASAT Bluesboy Semi-Hollow is just a little too hot to do a really good clean on the Champ 600.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2009, 05:49
GFS sells higher-output Dano pickups, as well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: MakuseruSukotto on 06 Nov 2009, 09:35
(http://i35.tinypic.com/33ynt60.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2009, 10:11
The Witch Hats are on their way, but I may be putting the build on hold.

Ladies and gentleman, Guitar Fetish makes Telemasters now. As well as Jazzmaster and Jagmaster/Jazzblaster copies. And now that I have a job, I can so throw down $230 on one of these in a few weeksish.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2080_18869347)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 06 Nov 2009, 11:26
I'm looking for a new axe. I've already got a tele and I play through a Fender Deluxe Reverb. I want something that can get a thicker muddier tone to offset the bright twangyness of the tele (which i love, but doesn't work for everything) Right now I'm deciding between a CIJ or MIJ jazzmaster, or a Gretsch Electromatic G5122. I've also been thinking of getting something with p90's in it.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2009, 11:27
Suggestion: Gimme that Deluxe Reverb.

Seriously though, I think you should look for something with humbuckers. From what I've heard, MIJ/CIJ JM pups (along with the Jags) are for the most part just Strat pups in different casings.

Yknow. Les Paul, SG, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Nov 2009, 13:35
I really like your fret markers. Can you buy those?

Well this is one of those Lawsuit Guitars that Gibson hates oh so very much so I highly doubt it. Also, the factory burned down. You could probably make some out of mother of pearl though.

Quote from: doombilly
Damn Patrick. Not crazy about overly orangey bursts. But CHICKEN HEAD! AWESOME!
Lose the pickguard. Freakin' beautiful. Does it sound/play as good as it looks?

In meatlife it looks less orangey. And god I love that Varitone. I've put it to some good use in some recordings already. Got another track to lay down that I'll run by you guys as soon as it's finished :D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Nov 2009, 05:47
-Frankentele-

No-one noticed this? Is it yours, MakuseruSukotto?
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Nov 2009, 16:30
-Frankentele-

No-one noticed this? Is it yours, MakuseruSukotto?

I would've commented, but I was too busy adoring that Telemaster.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Nov 2009, 17:36
Well, uh, my telemaster/teletelstar is gonna be way cooler.

(/Incredible claim)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Nov 2009, 05:52
-Frankentele-

No-one noticed this? Is it yours, MakuseruSukotto?

It's an Epi model from the 90s. They did some Strat copies, too. Kinda run-of-the-mill, honestly.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 09 Nov 2009, 10:27
The Witch Hats are on their way, but I may be putting the build on hold.

Ladies and gentleman, Guitar Fetish makes Telemasters now. As well as Jazzmaster and Jagmaster/Jazzblaster copies. And now that I have a job, I can so throw down $230 on one of these in a few weeksish.

(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2080_18869347)

That three-saddle bridge is dying to have some notches cut in it and a bigsby installed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 10:37
Or one of these maybe?

(http://www.bigsbyguitars.com/vibe/wp-content/uploads/trem_b16_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Nov 2009, 11:51
Yknow. Les Paul, SG, that sort of thing.
I looked into that, too. How well are the newer Les Paul Studios built? There are some sweet mahogany ones up on ebay right now for pretty cheap, but I know Gibson was bought out by the same company that owns Guitar Center, and that makes me slightly suspicious of their quality control.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Nov 2009, 12:01
I think the QC's fine, it's just their stupid unnecessary innovation you gotta watch out for.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 09 Nov 2009, 12:59
I have heard some negative things about the quality of their newer instruments, though part of that is probably due to what players expect from such a high priced instrument.  If I were you, I'd look into a used lawsuit Les Paul.  A friend has an old Ibanez that he got for song, and after a good setup it plays excellently and sounds great through his Orange AD30.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Nov 2009, 15:21
Gibson's quality control is better than it used to be, and I actually prefer the 490/498 pickups in the Studios to the BurstBuckers they're putting in higher-end LPs nowadays. I have never heard of a LP Studio with quality-control issues- most of the shit Gibson fucks up on fancier Les Pauls is the cosmetics- sloppy binding, finish bleed, that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 09 Nov 2009, 15:21
Also they still insist on covering the ends of their frets with binding instead of extending the frets OVER the binding, which is completely ugly and retarded
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2009, 08:01
Speaking of Gibson/Epiphone, this is kinda making me feel funny in the pants.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/9/5/591995.jpg)

(Actual '54 Les Pauls had p-90s though, didn't they?)

(Edit: I'm guessing they based it on this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Custom-Jeff-Beck-V.O.S.-Oxblood-Les-Paul-Electric-Guitar?sku=580841) Jeff Beck sig model)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 11 Nov 2009, 08:29
Not a guitar, but:

(http://www.metasonix.com/G1000.jpg)

Quote
The HAPPY channel is a more-or-less conventional instrument amp. It has plenty of gain and distortion (if desired), it has a conventional guitar-amp tone control section, and it has reverb. Everything else about it is DEVIANT. It has a PHASE control, which allows mixing of normal and inverted signals—or it may be adjusted to cancel out the original signal and pass only the distortion products....and, it's all made of unusual tubes. Mostly pentodes, ha ha ha.

The ANGRY channel is well-named. It is designed for instability and raw, berserk distortion effects. It, too, has typical guitar-amp tone controls and reverb. It uses a 6BN6 and two remote-cutoff pentodes. Ask your mother what those are. She's already tasted your foreskin anyway.

Despite the identical output stages of the two channels, they sound TOTALLY different. In ALL settings.

The output tubes are 6BK5s. Obscure, yes, but great and forgotten. Phase inversion is done with 6GU7s. Various types are used throughout the preamp stages: 6AU6, 6BJ6, 6CB6, 6BN6, 5BQ7, 6AK5, and others. No 12AX7s, of ANY brand. How many tubes? TWENTY-THREE tubes in total. Including eight 6BK5 outputs. It might be the most complex tube guitar amp available today....

The output tubes are in a special self-balancing, self-biasing circuit. It is unique to the G-1000 among guitar amps. It does NOT NEED matched tubes, nor is any kind of bias adjustment needed. Output power is 15 watts per channel, and two speakers (or a stereo speaker) are needed.

AAAAAAAAAASDLFHJALHSFLSHALUFHDLAUFLASFUHSDSPURT[/i]

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 11 Nov 2009, 08:42
I don't even know what to think.  Part of me says "That's a fucking gimmick," but the rest of me says, "YES!"  It almost makes me wish I played guitar.  Almost.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 13 Nov 2009, 00:17
Of course it's gimmicky. You don't build a guitar amp with tubes from TVs and the like if it's not a gimmick. Doesn't mean it wouldn't be fun to fuck around with for a while, but anybody who actually buys one is proof that capitalism doesn't work.

Also, I'm pretty sure if you tried playing it for more than an hour it would melt a hole through the floor.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 13 Nov 2009, 01:40
Yeah I think I heard a soundclip of it once and it just sounded like the most useless fuzz imaginable.

EDIT: Not a guitar, but we need to follow conventions.
(http://i.current.com/images/asset/899/463/90/4w0e8y.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Nov 2009, 10:59
the fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 14 Nov 2009, 11:27
Putting capybaras on page breaks is a Thing now.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Nov 2009, 15:24
That's differently abled.
Should at least be Guitar Capy.

Also dear guitar thread,
Despite repeated attempts I played 7 shows in 7 days and broke not one string.
I hereby decree it is quite ok to follow soundguys home and provide them with a blanket party. I'm pretty sure it is in the Bible/Torah/Koran/Waffle House menu.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 14 Nov 2009, 15:33
Yeah, if there was a guitar capybara I would've posted it. No such luck on GIS.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2009, 07:46
Despite repeated attempts I played 7 shows in 7 days and broke not one string.

What'd you do, borrow Rivers Cuomo's blue Strat?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 15 Nov 2009, 08:29
Capobara.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 15 Nov 2009, 17:43
I hereby decree it is quite ok to follow soundguys home and provide them with a blanket party. I'm pretty sure it is in the Bible/Torah/Koran/Waffle House menu.

I was gonna order it the other day, but then I realized you can get blueberries on them.

Blueberries.

(I love blueberries)

Capobara.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 16 Nov 2009, 10:12
'twas ye Parker Nitefly M with the girlie man 9 gauge strings.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwGTWFDPUwI/AAAAAAAAMQw/wcBcEYUT8N4/s400/Illicitizen%20by%20Peter%20Wochniak-133.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Nov 2009, 11:06
Even I use 10's...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 16 Nov 2009, 11:13
My trick in making strings last is to not play them.
See:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwGTW2LdfiI/AAAAAAAAMQ0/M-R7BQfM8uM/s288/Illicitizen%20by%20Peter%20Wochniak-134.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 16 Nov 2009, 21:02
Doombilly where did all these sick shots of the band come from?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 Nov 2009, 05:43
Those (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/IllicitizenFubarStLouis#5404762962910564162) were in St Louis Mo, at a club called Fubar. We ended up playing in the lounge because 3 or 4 local acts cancelled. Fortunately Illicitizen travels with a complete PA so we actually had the same sound we practice w/. Also the photos were by a pro we hired for this gig (Peter Wochniak).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 17 Nov 2009, 07:04
You had better have played 'Legs'.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 Nov 2009, 08:14
haha, no. No we did not. Ms Doombilly has that covered though. I admit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Nov 2009, 09:25
Those (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/IllicitizenFubarStLouis#5404762962910564162) were in St Louis Mo, at a club called Fubar. We ended up playing in the lounge because 3 or 4 local acts cancelled. Fortunately Illicitizen travels with a complete PA so we actually had the same sound we practice w/. Also the photos were by a pro we hired for this gig (Peter Wochniak).

I KNEW that place looked familiar. I caught my brother's band playing there a while back. Also, I'm digging that finish on your Nitefly. Mine's just the barely-transparent red.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 Nov 2009, 09:37
Oh wow. Is your's a mojo? The pics peter took make it look really good. And it is. But I regret I used to use a heavier pick as I've scratched the face pretty badly. No matter I would never sell that gtr anyway.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 17 Nov 2009, 16:06
Are there larger versions of the pics?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 18 Nov 2009, 08:43
http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/IllicitizenFubarStLouis#

I think you can view up to 800 px width and I believe I uploaded these at 1600px (so you could conceivably download at that size if you've not gotten enough of my camwhoring). :P
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Nov 2009, 13:39
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwCT3nLtJKI/AAAAAAAAML4/-RccdOm5ffE/s400/DSCF1108.JPG)
Steve Cropper's Telecaster.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/SwCT4ocr1bI/AAAAAAAAML8/_e0tqDE_w0Q/s288/DSCF1111.JPG)
Steve Cropper's Deluxe Reverb
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 19 Nov 2009, 23:53
It saddens me to see instruments rot in museums, or display cases, or something.  They are meant to be PLAYED dammit.  I dream of an organization that collects guitars of rockers past and lends them out to the most worthy musician...

Babbling aside, I've been thinking of getting a Gretsch Electromatic Double Jet and replacing the pickups with Seymour Duncan DeArmond Dyna-Sonics (http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/custom-shop/specialized-1/replacement_for/).  Basically I want the best Gretsch sound I can get at a third of the price.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Nov 2009, 03:55
I would join this club.

Hell, I would build guitars for this club.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Nov 2009, 05:05
It saddens me to see instruments rot in museums, or display cases, or something.  They are meant to be PLAYED dammit.  I dream of an organization that collects guitars of rockers past and lends them out to the most worthy musician...

Because of this, i'm not a big fan of Hard Rock Cafe
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 20 Nov 2009, 05:23
I'm stopping by a music store today to mess around with a 8-string again. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 20 Nov 2009, 15:59
How are Classic Player Jaguars compared to the '63 reissues?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Nov 2009, 05:39
Yeah. How are they? Contemplating buying a new backup rather than modding out the tele as previously planned. I agree with Jeph and my wife, might not be worth the effort. Anyway, looking for a good HH guitar in the $800 range. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 21 Nov 2009, 07:40
Fuck HH Jaguars.

Unless you're Kevin Shields, get an SG.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 21 Nov 2009, 13:16
Unless you are Ian MacKaye buy something other than a SG
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Nov 2009, 13:30
Anyway, looking for a good HH guitar in the $800 range. Thoughts?

A new Peavey EXP signature series can be picked up for well under that.   Seriously... I have guitars that cost three times as much that aren't nearly as well put together.  Mahogany body, set neck with almost no heel, a full two octaves.   Really  a very nice guitar.    Caveat: Some people hate quilt tops (I don't) and it's a chunky--though very fast-- neck.   

There's also a variety of PRS SEs out there for about $700.  Though I don't think it's quite as nice as the Peavey, (huge heel, the nut on mine wasn't well dressed on the high E side) it's still a very nice guitar for the price, and I like the pickups a little more.  Plus 25" scale is fun.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 21 Nov 2009, 20:05
I've never liked Peavy guitars all that much.  They use active pickups in many of their lines and bleh...

For ~$800 I always thought this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Italia-Mondial-Classic-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=514442) was tits on ice cream.  Reso-glass top, and a peizo pickup.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 21 Nov 2009, 21:10
tits on ice cream

 :|
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Nov 2009, 10:27
FAIL. The sale I had worked out fell through. No new guitars for festivus '09.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 24 Nov 2009, 14:19
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg
I'm pretty sure I'm ordering one of these in the next couple of days. I  played one the guitar shop by my house that was cheaper than buying direct from Eastwood, but I didn't care much for the color.
Anyone have any experience with Eastwood's stuff?
EDIT: Sorry for massive page-breaking image
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 24 Nov 2009, 15:05
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg

DO WANT

EDIT: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gibson_guitars_being_investigated_by_us_police.html
O___O
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 24 Nov 2009, 16:05
Check out the link attached to the article attached - http://www.hansonguitars.com/chicagoan.htm
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: imapiratearg on 24 Nov 2009, 16:10
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg

DO WANT

EDIT: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/gibson_guitars_being_investigated_by_us_police.html
O___O

Hahahaha.  That's what you get for having outrageously-priced guitars, fuckers.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cadeonehalf on 24 Nov 2009, 20:53
I've never liked Peavy guitars all that much.  They use active pickups in many of their lines and bleh...

For ~$800 I always thought this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Italia-Mondial-Classic-SemiHollow-Electric-Guitar?sku=514442) was tits on ice cream.  Reso-glass top, and a peizo pickup.

Before you dismiss Peavey guitars altogether, try playing a t-60. Heavy as a boat anchor and built like a missile bunker, but it plays so beautifully. I found one in my friend's basement that belonged to his dad (who hadn't touched it in 10 years) and I think he had to pry the guitar out of my hands after I got ahold of it.
(http://www.rocknrollweekend.com/T-60%201979%20-%20full%20V.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 24 Nov 2009, 23:59
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 25 Nov 2009, 03:17
I intend to add a T-60 to my collection one day.   Not sure when, but... It's high on the list.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 25 Nov 2009, 03:51
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!
I want the next guitar I get to be a 7-string. I like the idea of the extended range, being able to basically play in B or standard tuning without retuning.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 25 Nov 2009, 05:06
Personally, I just want my damn Squier back so I can get her a new hum-cancelled bridge pickup, solder it into place, and tune it to drop C. I only want to do this so I can play "The Background" by Third Eye Blind without fucking with my other guitars' tunings. That and a little metal from time to time wouldn't kill me. It'd help my chops, at least...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Nov 2009, 07:28
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!

I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Nov 2009, 07:38
pvt60
I actually came very close to buying one of these about a month ago. In any event, my funding has dried up so nm.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 25 Nov 2009, 21:15
I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.

My exact opinion of 6-string basses.  5-string I can understand because it's basically the same as an extension on upright bass plus an extra semitone.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Nov 2009, 23:13
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!

I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.

What is there to get? It means you can play more notes. Seems simple to me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Nov 2009, 23:15
http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/twinTone/images/big/4744twintonebigsbywhiteFINA.jpg

Wow, that's the closest I've gotten to seeing an Eastwood I've liked.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Nov 2009, 00:31
I know none of you guys give a shit, but there's a lot of new 7- and 8-strings coming out this Winter NAMM. I am hella excited!

I still cannot get the point of an 8 string. Just doesn't make sense.

What is there to get? It means you can play more notes. Seems simple to me.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 26 Nov 2009, 00:38
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moonlander.jpg
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Nov 2009, 00:56
The fuck....
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Nov 2009, 04:51
Just means you can play more notes.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 26 Nov 2009, 07:32
Lots more notes (http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/08/pikasso.jpg).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 26 Nov 2009, 11:34
Dammit if yesterday's discussion didn't get me all fired up again about getting a T-60.  I went and bid on one on ebay.  I should probably hope that I lose, but I'm really, really hoping I win.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 26 Nov 2009, 12:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moonlander.jpg

I want a Springtime.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 27 Nov 2009, 07:08
Dammit if yesterday's discussion didn't get me all fired up again about getting a T-60.  I went and bid on one on ebay.  I should probably hope that I lose, but I'm really, really hoping I win.
The one I played was fucking awesome. I'm pretty sure you kill all the knights o the roundtable with it. SOLID.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 30 Nov 2009, 12:32
Aw shit... I won it.

Let y'all know how it plays in a few days.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 30 Nov 2009, 16:54
In my local g-tar shop there's a semi-acoustic they brand as 'Noel Gallagher's ex-guitar'...they put the price UP because of this...I think the Oasis hating community should chip in and burn it as Oasis-fawks.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 30 Nov 2009, 16:55
An ex-guitar? What is it now, a xylophone or something?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 30 Nov 2009, 17:04
He may have fashioned it into a hat yes... :-P Wording may have been mangled by me...the jist is its his old guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Nov 2009, 21:01
My old local music store once had a Ricenbacker electric 12 string sitting on the counter, and when I enquired as to its origin, I was told that it had been Paul Westerberg's.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 30 Nov 2009, 21:23
I once worked for Scot Alexander the bassist for Dishwalla... Never got to play his stuff though >_>
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 30 Nov 2009, 22:14
My old local music store once had a Ricenbacker electric 12 string sitting on the counter, and when I enquired as to its origin, I was told that it had been Paul Westerberg's.
I would have bought that, or at least humped it furiously till I got kicked out of the store. Not sure if it would be more from the guitar or who used to own it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Dec 2009, 07:29
How about that dude on OSG who bought one of Sonic Youth's stolen Fender Mustangs, restored it to almost-new, and then sold it back to the band at the price he paid for it, only to have the fuckers smash it to shit all over again?

Nobody can ever one-up that dude unless they own every piece of the guitar Hendrix used at the Monterey Pop Festival.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 01 Dec 2009, 08:48
He  jizzed on his old guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 01 Dec 2009, 09:01
Thats not even witty word play thats just pretending I said something...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Dec 2009, 09:18
We never claimed to be witty, man.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 01 Dec 2009, 10:55
I never sed 'poopie'
Sorry it is Oasis. I brunged the silly. The witty is in my other hat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 01 Dec 2009, 12:08
Dear guitar thread,

Why am I so retarded for unbadged 60's era japanese-made guitars? As soon as I see one for sale I start all "OH HEY LET ME GIVE YOU SOME MONEY FOR THAT." regardless of the condition. Bah.

I found what looks to be a Teisco Starway J-1 for 70$. The pickup has been replaced, so I have no idea how it would sound. I am trying to trade my hollowbody for it. We shall see.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 01 Dec 2009, 12:27
I LIKE LAMP...AND FECES!

Interesting...I see...little too much info for my liking.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 01 Dec 2009, 13:51
I bought a cheap nylon string guitar off a guy today (According to the inside, it is "Model Number Made in China", that's how generic it is). I defretted it. It is awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 01 Dec 2009, 14:31
So back at my place I have an old Squier Strat that I haven't used much since I got a better guitar. But I got to thinking today as to how I could possibly make it better. Well for starters, obviously I could drop in new everything, but I have never, ever been a fan of the Stratocaster shape. What if I could re-cut it so it looked less assy?

This was the result.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/guitar.png)

Here it is, overlaid over a strat for comparison:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/guitarcomparison.png)

Thoughts? Awesome?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 01 Dec 2009, 15:30
Great. Now I want to go mutilate my Squier Strat.

I approve.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 01 Dec 2009, 16:24
Those usually turn out badly. Make a lamp out if it. Or feces.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 01 Dec 2009, 16:39
ZINGER ALERT!!!

Squier Strats are basically already feces.

*ba-dum-buhm-pshh*

(This coming from the proud owner of a used Epiphone Les Paul Special-II)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 01 Dec 2009, 21:39
You made an ugly Jazzmaster with humbuckers.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 02 Dec 2009, 05:15
Yup.  That body will be tinier than you think it is.  Don't believe me?  Search ebay for "custom" guitars.  Most of the time you'll find some idiot's hack job there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2009, 06:18
I kinda like that pseudo-offset one, Chris. Reminds me of a few people on OSG that ended up finding Mustangs on eBay with the lower horn completely hacked off.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 02 Dec 2009, 06:41
And here is something completely different.

(http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/ebaymoneymaker/100_0163.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2009, 07:39
(thanks, Chris)

GFS is now doing repros of Burns Tri-Sonic pickups.

http://store.guitarfetish.com/brrovisppicl.html

God. Damn.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 02 Dec 2009, 12:31
And here is something completely different.

Anyone who's ever played guitar in their underwear during wintertime must appreciate this as much as I do.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Noff on 02 Dec 2009, 12:39
I would be first in line for an official Furcaster
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ElDavido on 02 Dec 2009, 16:57
And here is something completely different.

Anyone who's ever played guitar in their underwear during wintertime must appreciate this as much as I do.

My god! Hes a mind reader! Cold guitars are the bane of shirtless playing!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 03 Dec 2009, 13:06
Glyphic, you may be onto something here.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 03 Dec 2009, 14:17
Hilariously, that's a Heit guitar from the early 60's.

More pics on the ebay page where the low bid is 9.95

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-HEIT-DELUXE-FURRY-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-TEISCO-MIJ_W0QQitemZ300372763118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45ef9ca1ee (http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-HEIT-DELUXE-FURRY-ELECTRIC-GUITAR-TEISCO-MIJ_W0QQitemZ300372763118QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item45ef9ca1ee)
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Dec 2009, 15:34
holy crap. Needs mor pickupz
(http://www.theguitarcollection.org.uk/gallery4/heit-p.jpg)
jumpin batman on a pnematic buttplug!
http://www.theguitarcollection.org.uk/gallery1/menu.html
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 03 Dec 2009, 22:13
And here is something completely different.

Anyone who's ever played guitar in their underwear during wintertime must appreciate this as much as I do.

(http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/ebaymoneymaker/100_0167.jpg)

Furless back =  :-(

I do, however, still want it. Even with shipping, like a $50 guitar or something. :-D
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Post by: David_Dovey on 03 Dec 2009, 22:43
If he was any kind of smart he would've made just the back furry
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Post by: The Duke on 04 Dec 2009, 15:51
It would still be kind of cool; just not as practical (for shirtless/naked playing*).

*Rage Against The Machine did it one time.  I am not just being creepy.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 04 Dec 2009, 16:39
So I just finished applying lots of wood filler the body and headstock of a mahogany SG clone I'm building.  Tomorrow, there will be a goo-gob of sanding.   This is good though, because it means I'm getting reasonably close to being done.    I'm now having a hard time deciding if I should wind the pickups tonight or drink beer.
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 04 Dec 2009, 20:27
So hey guys, been working on this piece with a couple friends, for a couple hours and we decided to record it.

http://www.supload.com/listen?s=XhzVQ1

Sorry about the recording quality, was just a couple mics scattered across the room. Guitar sounds a bit like shit, was using a crappy vocal microphone I had lying around to capture the sound.

For the gear-heads out there, this was

Marshall 18Watt running a Maxon OD808 in front.  On the solo I kick the OCD in if I remember correctly. I also use a Tycobrahe clone in the C section. Intro and bridge are wah + chorus.

Try and guess the guitar (might be an impossible task with this recording quality).

So, changes I'm thinking of making:

- Chorus is getting scrapped probably.
- That verse before the last chorus/solo/chorus is getting scrapped too me thinks.

Oh and sorry about that solo. Was just noodling around mostly.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 04 Dec 2009, 20:39
So, that Heit fur-covered guitar. Has anyone heard the tone from one of them before? Would you possibly describe it as... fuzzy?
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Post by: jeph on 05 Dec 2009, 09:25
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dusk-Tiger/Gallery.aspx

oh what the fuck gibson
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Dec 2009, 09:31
Don't worry about it, Jeph. We figure Gibson'll drive themselves into the ground within a year or two at this rate of stupid guitars.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 05 Dec 2009, 09:40
I was expecting stupid, but I was a bit surprised at just how stupid.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Dec 2009, 12:18
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dusk-Tiger/Gallery.aspx

oh what the fuck gibson


More like, Dust Bunny.
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Post by: Tehz on 05 Dec 2009, 15:11
Is there even a market for shit like this?

(someone's gonna post "stupid people with too much money", but I'm gonna take care of that right now)
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Dec 2009, 17:46
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 05 Dec 2009, 18:11
I own a VG strat.


So there's no accounting for taste
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Dec 2009, 18:35
Is there even a market for shit like this?

See, they at least acknowledge this by making the production limited. Unfortunately, their idea of limited is A FUCKING THOUSAND of these.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 06 Dec 2009, 05:05
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?
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Post by: Ballard on 06 Dec 2009, 08:50
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Dusk-Tiger/Gallery.aspx

oh what the fuck gibson


In all honesty that's a really tasteful, pretty guitar compared to the shit they've been putting out lately. It's overpriced and the Robot features are unnecessary but I really like it otherwise.
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Post by: The Duke on 06 Dec 2009, 14:19
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?

For some people, yes.  I know a guy who didn't realize that tuning using his frets instead of harmonics was unreliable once they got worn, and thought that he was either doing it wrong or that he was tone-deaf.

Also, I can see it being handy during shows, since it can do drop-D, open tunings, etc. automatically.
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Dec 2009, 03:37
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?

But it's so cooooooooool.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Dec 2009, 03:19
Wrong.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Dec 2009, 03:56
yeah ffffuuuccckkk opinions!

fuck'em good
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 08 Dec 2009, 04:02
I showed some people the Zoot Suit a few days ago and they all said it was "kewl". Some were guitar players.

FFFFFF
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 06:10
I'd buy a Les Paul Robot.

I really don't understand the appeal. Is TUNING YOUR GUITAR really that much of a hassle?

just..just qft.

edit: Oh yeah, so..I'm ordering a body after xmas. A guy on OSG is doing some measurements to see if a Warmoth Split Jazzmaster guard would fit with a Telecaster bridge. If not? I'm going to have him do either a Tele Deluxe body routed for a Strat trem, or a straight-forward Jazzmaster. 
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Dec 2009, 07:08
I showed some people the Zoot Suit a few days ago and they all said it was "kewl". Some were guitar players.

FFFFFF

The thing is sexy, the only problem is that unless they've done some very nice engineering it'll sound like ass (plywood guitars died out for a reason).

(http://www.gibson.com/Files/USA/SGs/Zoot-SG/FinishImages/SGZTRKCH1-Finish-Shot.jpg)

Seriously, look at this thing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 07:11
I am. It looks like fucking shit.
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Dec 2009, 07:14
You're going to start talking about how great Danos are soon, aren't you?
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2009, 07:21
Actually, I might bitch about how the "hand painted psychedelic" reissues look. Cos seriously, it's not pretty.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y280/DAT12/Danelectro%20Related/d96ed7a9.jpg)

Zoinks, Scoob.
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Post by: glyphic on 08 Dec 2009, 07:34
Those look like barf and they make me barf.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 08 Dec 2009, 08:30
One time when I was little, I ate a bunch of Cap'n Crunch and threw it up again.


I forget about that incident until right this moment.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Dec 2009, 08:43
I'm also of the opinion that the Zoot Suits at least look pretty sweet, as long as you get one of the two-tone finishes and not that god-awful rainbow one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Dec 2009, 09:21
Re: those Danos, take a moment, everybody, to wrap your heads around this sentence: "Somebody seriously took the time to hand paint those things."

That means that somebody thought this was a good enough idea to merit somebody else's (theoretically) skilled, manual labor. Somebody thought that those ugly pieces of shit were marketable enough to produce some number of them. That suggests that there are people in this world who like things that are completely unlikeable, and will pay more for them because they are not only fucking repulsive, but they are limited edition.

This is why I have no faith in people. A guitar that I consider unattractive makes me a misanthrope. UGLY GUITARS MAKE ME HATE HUMANITY. SRS BIZNESS

Self-mockery aside, I really do think those things are worth at least a slap over the head.
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 08 Dec 2009, 10:18
The goggles, they do nothing!

Seriously though, what happened, Danelectro? You were doing so good with your reissues, why did you make such a terrible decision? Who looked at that and said "yes this is what we want our guitars to look like!"??
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Post by: the_pied_piper on 08 Dec 2009, 10:33
Psychedelic Guitars image

Honestly, if they hadn't painted the neck like that I would have no problem paying for one of those.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 08 Dec 2009, 11:51
Ditto.
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Post by: jeph on 08 Dec 2009, 12:56
Wow that is eye-melting.

If I were going to buy another 7-string someday, it would probably be a Blackmachine:

(http://blackmachine.net/images/b7d.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 08 Dec 2009, 14:39
*splooge*

I want a Blackmachine, bad. Just a shame he has a waiting list of like... three years.
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Post by: Spluff on 09 Dec 2009, 05:14
That name is particularly misleading.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2009, 08:23
Like the Acoustic Black Widow.
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Post by: jeph on 09 Dec 2009, 10:07
*splooge*

I want a Blackmachine, bad. Just a shame he has a waiting list of like... three years.

Yeah, at this point I think it might be faster to just learn to build guitars myself than wait on a Blackmachine.

And my new house has a nice workbench in the garage...
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 09 Dec 2009, 10:19
Man, I'd be building all sorts of guitars if I had that.  Or repairing all sorts of motorcycles.  Maybe guitars during the winter and motorcycles during the riding season.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 09 Dec 2009, 10:58
Make a hybrid of both.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 09 Dec 2009, 11:07
Now is the first time in my life I wish I had any skill with photo manipulation software.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 09 Dec 2009, 11:26
Shit son,

(http://www.strangevehicles.com/images/content/147915.jpg)
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Post by: Zingoleb on 09 Dec 2009, 11:31
But how's the tone?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2009, 12:10
Your Google Images search-fu is disgusting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 09 Dec 2009, 12:26
I didn't even bother trying to look it up.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 09 Dec 2009, 16:18
*splooge*

I want a Blackmachine, bad. Just a shame he has a waiting list of like... three years.

Yeah, at this point I think it might be faster to just learn to build guitars myself than wait on a Blackmachine.

And my new house has a nice workbench in the garage...

Let me know if you get good at it. I believe a loyal reader like myself deserves a free 8-string.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Dec 2009, 18:47
Like the Acoustic Black Widow.
It burns!
Oh well at least they ARE black.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 09 Dec 2009, 21:43
What burns?
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Dec 2009, 04:32
Mostly my pee pee when I urinate but...oh wait wrong forum... No I meant it's CALLED "Acoustic" and it is so much an electric guitar. /being overly silly

It is kind of a shame the pickups don't sound better on the widow. It would make a good guitar for slide work, if I knew anything about that. The only time I've been able to make that sound ok I was pretty doped up from my shoulder surgery. So it probably sound like butt, I just was too high to notice.

In other news, I need two NYC local indie rock bands to play New Year's w/ ILLICITIZEN in Brooklyn.
Contact me via email (illicitizen at gmail) or on myspace (http://illicitizen.com), or facebook (http://facebook.com/illicitizen) if you can/want to do it.

/this has been a public service announcement without guitar

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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2009, 05:47
And my new house has a nice workbench in the garage...

Mind if I stop by sometime? I need a place to finish whilst all this snow runs its course.
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 10 Dec 2009, 08:37
Psychedelic Guitars image

Honestly, if they hadn't painted the neck like that I would have no problem paying for one of those.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 09:03
Mostly my pee pee when I urinate but...oh wait wrong forum... No I meant it's CALLED "Acoustic" and it is so much an electric guitar. /being overly silly

It is kind of a shame the pickups don't sound better on the widow. It would make a good guitar for slide work, if I knew anything about that. The only time I've been able to make that sound ok I was pretty doped up from my shoulder surgery. So it probably sound like butt, I just was too high to notice.

In other news, I need two NYC local indie rock bands to play New Year's w/ ILLICITIZEN in Brooklyn.
Contact me via email (illicitizen at gmail) or on myspace (http://illicitizen.com), or facebook (http://facebook.com/illicitizen) if you can/want to do it.

/this has been a public service announcement without guitar



How long will you be in New York? I'll most likely be in Boston over New Year's but if you're in town for a few days I'll buy you coffee or something.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 10 Dec 2009, 09:06
I might be putting one of my friends in contact with you.  I think he's got a band going in NYC by now, and he's focusing on doing music full-time.  He's good.  I used to play with the guy back in Charleston.  There's a non-zero chance that he doesn't yet have a New Year's gig.  To which e-mail should I have him address his queries?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 09:26
Put him in touch with me as well. I always enjoy meeting local musicians.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 10 Dec 2009, 09:56
I might do one better than that.  I was planning on spending a little time in NYC in early January to hang out with some friends and relatives of mine that live there.  There could be possible hangouts.

We have fallen off-topic.  Unfortunately I have no guitar porn to post, since I haven't even thought about buying a new instrument in more than six years.  I haven't found anything that I like more than my electric, and replacing my upright would be freakishly expensive.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Dec 2009, 10:01
To which e-mail should I have him address his queries?
[email protected]

Is he solo?

How long will you be in New York? I'll most likely be in Boston over New Year's but if you're in town for a few days I'll buy you coffee or something.
Likely only that night. I'm not sure. We're playing Danbury CT the 12/30 date. Hopefully this NY gig will work out. But we'll be making our way home the 1st.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 10 Dec 2009, 10:02
My T-60 just showed up.

This thing is the sex.  Seriously.
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Post by: Bastardous Bassist on 10 Dec 2009, 10:07
Is he solo?

Probably not.  I definitely talked with him about a band he was starting up.  I'll shoot him a text or something to find out what's going on with that.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Dec 2009, 10:22
Cool dealio. Anyone who wants to meet up hit my email. I can respond with my phone #. Love to meet some peeps.
 In other news I am having serious T-60 ENVY (in my pants).
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 10 Dec 2009, 11:09
The next guitar I buy is going to be by Electrical Guitar Company. I have decided this.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Dec 2009, 13:14
Getting a Charvel Spectrum for Christmas, yay!

(http://cache.finn.no/mmo/5/198/725/35_-1607013550.jpg)

edit: I also like pretty guitars.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2009, 16:11
The next guitar I buy is going to be by Electrical Guitar Company. I have decided this.

Why not just buy a Travis Bean?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: E. Spaceman on 10 Dec 2009, 22:34
EGC makes more affordable guitars and by all accounts, they are better built and have none of the flaws that TB/Kramers had.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Dec 2009, 05:17
They are also fucking gorgeous.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Dec 2009, 07:02
Wow, I played a Kramer bass (I think) w/ an aluminum neck. But those are kind of really cool. Heavy though. Although, probably lighter than that Black Widow. Heh
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Post by: Lummer on 11 Dec 2009, 08:21
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/vairish/Ibanez2010/RGA8_BK.jpg)

Awwwww yeah motherfuckers... I am so buying this when it comes out.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 11 Dec 2009, 08:35
What's the lowest string tuned to? F#?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 11 Dec 2009, 11:01
Question!

What's the point of locking the strings if the guitar hasn't got a tremolo?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 11 Dec 2009, 11:17
What's the lowest string tuned to? F#?

Exactly.

Question!

What's the point of locking the strings if the guitar hasn't got a tremolo?

Tuning stability. I mean like, tuning stability to a degree where it's completely ridiculous. I actually wish more companies would make fixed bridges like this. Ibanez so far only has this, the RG2228 and the Mick Thompson sigs with that bridge assembly. They did have a JS-model with it once, though. But so far, they are the only company aside from Steinberger (don't know if that's comparable at all though), that makes "Locked Fixed Bridges". If ESP/LTD made a Horizon model with this sort of bridge I would be all over it.

Granted, it stinks if you mess around with a lot of different tunings, but for me it's great. The fine tuners at the bridge allow you to tune really accurately in a jiffy. Plus the fact that you can move the saddles a lot means it's really easy to intonate perfectly. PLUS it looks cool.

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Post by: doombilly on 13 Dec 2009, 09:23
(http://www.diamondstrings.com/hag%208%20white-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Dec 2009, 10:07
Old hagströms are sweeeet.

Yours?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Dec 2009, 10:56
haha, no. I just thought of Lummer and his 8stringphila. :P I found that looking for more info on my Black Widow.

Speaking of which... Durn, been playing the mess out of it today. Actually found some good sounds with the help of my POD. Not so noisy. Also read that single coil versions like mine might actually be lap steel pickups. But it is hard to tell. There wasn't much documentation and mine was obviously MIJ by Matsumoku... hmmm maybe should try searching from that angle?

EDIT.
Played the whole set with the big black guitar. It did pretty well but there persists a tuning problem that i feel needs to be addressed with a shim on the side of the neck. On the lower side of the neck where it meets the neck cavity, there is probably 3/32" of a gap. The Widow has two bolts there and another right in front of the bridge to hold the other end of the neck in place. From what I could simulate playing with the neck with the tuner engaged, it moves just enough in play that will especially effect the G string. I want to shim the neck there, and am not sure what to use.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 13 Dec 2009, 18:35
3/32" is a pretty significant gap.   If it's really well and truly that large, I would cut a piece of wood and glue it in.  If it's smaller... cut  up a credit card.  They're about 1/32" thick, easy to come by, easy to cut to fit, and last forever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2009, 04:06
Any kind of wood? Was thinking I needed something harder than pine. The thing that pisses me off if it is the one thing I addressed with the luthier when I PAID to have it set up after buying it. He did everything else including an expensive fret dress/level that I didn't feel was necessary. I am beginning to think these guys are the 21st century version of the auto mechanic.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Dec 2009, 04:39
"Harder than pine" is probably a good idea, though honestly, it's a shim.  Use what a) works and b) looks good.  In that order.  The concern with any kind of wood is that it might split if it's under significant pressure, however, it'll probably be okay, and if it's glued in, even if it splits, it should still be relatively stable.  I'm trying to remember where I've bought pre-cut shims before, and for the life of me, it's escaped my brain. 

I just had an idea: If you go down to Home Depot you can usually find hobby sheets of plexiglass (they might call it acrylic plastic, or some such) in varying thickness for a few bucks a sheet.  In my local store it's in the back next to the windows and screen doors.  It's what I use to make my routing templates in my workshop.  You could cut to fit and stack if necessary.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2009, 06:28
Thanks. I hope this does the trick (shimming). Because this guitar is shexy. It is quite a bit harder to play than my Parker. But you know appearances are everything (especially if you are trying to dristract people from your grim face of death and pattern baldness). :laugh:

In other news, if i start hauling this big bastid to gigs, I need to replace the latches on the case. I'd love to keep it stock. But dayum. Right now i have a belt (some guy left at my house) wrapped around it to keep it shut.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Dec 2009, 06:52
I need to replace all the guts of the case for the T-60 I bought.  It smells of mildew.   Such a damn shame.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2009, 10:01
Try putting a bag of charcoal in it for a few weeks. Also we need some pictures of you rocking the T-60. Man I still regret not running up some CC debt on the one I saw a month or so ago.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Dec 2009, 13:06
What's kind of cool about this case is that being 30 years old, there is a rip in the fabric by where the upper horn goes.  Thanks to this rip, I can see that the damn thing is nothing but injection molded ABS with velour glued to it.   So I was planning on going down to the fabric store and buying a few yards of velour.  That way, I could rip this stuff out, wash the plastic down with bleach-water (or something) to make sure I've killed all the mildew, then hot glue new material to the plastic.

Then it occurred to me... My two youngest children are still young enough that they still have all these soft, cutesy, blankets with cartoon characters printed on them.  I think I'm going to steal a couple of their blankets and glue those in instead, so when you open my case it's going to be batman, or the hulk or something, instead of boring ass brown velour.  

Obviously, I would prefer to have been able to keep the case original, however, it smells of mildew so something has to be done.  I'll keep desiccant in there once I'm done.   And yay!  It gives me another project.  See my ranty post in the pointless thread about how I like to do stupid things that other people don't do.  

On another note, I think my wife must have taken the nice digital camera to work with her (pretty common) but I'll try to get a T-60 pic or two up later tonight.


Edit:  The UPS man came to the door today with a big ass box addressed to my wife with a guitarfetish return address on it.  Looks like I'm getting things I want for Christmas this year, woo hoo.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Dec 2009, 06:47
One of the new offsets?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 15 Dec 2009, 08:39
Damn, Santa is not very stealthy. Fat motherfucker.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 15 Dec 2009, 10:27
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/vairish/Ibanez2010/RGA8_BK.jpg)

Awwwww yeah motherfuckers... I am so buying this when it comes out.

Aw I was kinda hoping they'd do an Iceman style 8-string like one of the Meshuggah dudes has.
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Post by: Bearer on 15 Dec 2009, 11:06
3 Pickup 1979 Les Paul Custom
(http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/data/9/large/IMG_3741.JPG)
http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php/product/16586/cat/9/date/1260758991 (http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php/product/16586/cat/9/date/1260758991)

Whoa
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Post by: celticgeek on 15 Dec 2009, 11:32
I bought this shirt (http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/interactive/c498/) for my son-in-law for Christmas.

And these magnets  (http://www.blueq.com/shop/item/114-productId.125837468_114-catId.117440546.html)for myself.
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Post by: Lummer on 15 Dec 2009, 15:25


Awwwww yeah motherfuckers... I am so buying this when it comes out.

Aw I was kinda hoping they'd do an Iceman style 8-string like one of the Meshuggah dudes has.
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I never even knew they had one. Is it Marten or Fredrik? Eitherway, the Iceman never was my kind of thing.

I would SO like to see Scott Hull's custom Jackson 8-string.
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Post by: jeph on 15 Dec 2009, 19:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7qSHp2-lo&feature=related

Lotsa closeups of it in this video. I don't normally like Icemans (Icemen?) but his is pretty fuckin' badass.
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Post by: Lummer on 16 Dec 2009, 01:37
I honestly think it looks a bit weird with the uber-wide neck and all. I don't like it at all myself, actually. I am however quite sure it plays awesome and sounds like galaxies collapsing.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Dec 2009, 06:54
(http://www.bigsbyguitars.com/images/Bigbsy-BYWT-600.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2009, 07:00
I stumbled upon Bigsby's site the other day. Those guitars are SICK, but so damn expensive.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Dec 2009, 07:31
Yes. Kind of like these Hotties.
(http://www.hottieamps.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hottie454redmetal.jpg) $3500!!!!!!
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2009, 07:50
Is the bridge made of platinum or something? Jesus.
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Post by: Ballard on 18 Dec 2009, 14:37
Reminds me of Duesenbergs.

(http://www.duesenberg.de/duesenberg/image/inst/hb_spec_wp.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 06:27
I got an email last night from the guy on OSG who's doing my body. It's not completely done yet, but I'm brimming with excitement. 3-piece alder! I'm thinking of going with a red finish and a tort guard, much like one of J Mascis' Jazzmasters. And that set of vintage white witch hats, of course.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/photo.jpg)
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Post by: Spluff on 19 Dec 2009, 08:29
I got an email last night from the guy on OSG who's doing my body.

You're making this too easy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2009, 08:30
Shut up, numpties!
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 19 Dec 2009, 09:24
Got my Eastwood in the mail the other day. Glorious Les Paul quality tone (at least compared to new ones) at a fraction of the cost. Pics as soon as I find my camera.
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Post by: Ballard on 19 Dec 2009, 11:58
Which model?

The guitar shop I used to work at carried (and probably still carries) their full product line. I love the shit out of those things.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Dec 2009, 16:37
My wife was bogarting the camera for so long I almost forgot about getting a pic of my small (but growing) Peavey collection.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_4086-1.jpg)

'06 EXP Signature and '79 T-60.  So very different, both so amazing.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Dec 2009, 18:26
How heavy is the the T-60?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Dec 2009, 18:37
About four and a half thousand pounds it feels like.

Seriously, it's pretty stout.
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Post by: Ballard on 21 Dec 2009, 00:39
Add this to your Peavey collection.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/msg/1519289388.html
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Dec 2009, 01:58
Man, I have a co-worker heading home for Christmas to Amityville tomorrow.   I wonder if a) the ATM will dispense $685 at once and b) I could talk her into picking it up and getting it on a flight for me?

Edit: So I did a little research on the Odyssey model since I was unfamiliar with it.  Reviews are overall very good, but the market price is really hard to determine.  It's all over the place.   Also, this guy has tried to sell this guitar before and obviously didn't since he is relisting.   I'd probably rather get two (maybe three!) more t-60s or even another EXP.

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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 21 Dec 2009, 13:22
I'm selling my Wolfgang if you're interested.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Dec 2009, 07:59
What you need for your Peavey collection is this:
(http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Images/Va022.JPG)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Dec 2009, 22:40
Who would beat up an Explorer like that what did it ever do to them
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Dec 2009, 23:09
Why do you care, Explorers are lame. Only dude to ever make it not suck is Billy Gibbons.
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Post by: Spluff on 23 Dec 2009, 03:22
Why do you care, Explorers are lame. Only dude to ever make it not suck is Billy Gibbons.

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done, young man.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Dec 2009, 04:34
Why do you care, Explorers are lame. Only dude to ever make it not suck is Billy Gibbons.

I think you need to rethink some things.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 23 Dec 2009, 05:51
Patrick stop talking shit

(http://www.dethklok.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/skwis.jpg)

(also oh god why is there so much Dethklok Rule 34 out there aaaarrrggghhhhhh)
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Post by: Nodaisho on 23 Dec 2009, 11:13
Because you google searched with safesearch off. If you hadn't, there wouldn't have been any. Schrodinger's dildo codpiece.
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Post by: jeph on 24 Dec 2009, 02:48
Why do you care, Explorers are lame.

and i thought we were friends
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Dec 2009, 21:47
Whoever likes Explorers is a closet B.C. Rich fan. Go get a stupid Warlock, at least you get what you're paying for (read: "jack shit") with those.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Dec 2009, 22:06
Ha ha ha you're wrong and an idiot
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2009, 02:14
Do you know why they are retarded?

Find yourself a hardshell (or, for that matter, soft!) case that the fucker will actually fit in, and that you don't have to pay Hella Buxx for. If you pass this test, I will think they are less retarded. None of that "coffin case" shit either, that will never get me on your side.

Then you'll give me the excuse, "But if you are paying that much for a guitar, you should be investing that kind of money into a case!" Granted. But the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom, so even if you DO get a case, fucker is gonna snap somewhere anyway.

Speaking of snapping, you think the angled 3-by-3 configuration is bad? This fucker's got the same angle AND a 6-in-line configuration, and I've seen people complain about their angled 6-in-line headstocks like skinheads complain about Obama.

And at the end of the day, you'll be thinking to yourself, "Damn it, this guitar is entirely impractical and sounds no different than a slightly more-sustainy SG. What the hell was I thinking, spending more than 2 grand on this tinkertoy piece of shit."

And you could put an eye out.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Dec 2009, 04:34
Hey guys so I am sort of trying to learn guitar, borrowing the gf's acoustic. I've got a question about reading tabs.

I know that if you are using a capo, then the tab takes wherever the capo is as "0", i.e; if yr capo is on the 5th fret then you a "1" on the tablature actually means play the sixth fret etc. etc.

But if you are reading chord diagrams, does the same apply? I'd think not, but I dunno.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Dec 2009, 06:22
It's the same, Dovey. Play the chord as shown, in relation to where the capo is.

For example, a normal open C chord is (low-to-high) 0-3-2-0-1-0.

With a capo on the fifth fret (for example), the fingering stays exactly the same same, but instead of 0-3-2-0-1-0, you've got 5-8-7-5-6-5.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Dec 2009, 07:19
RANTRANTRANT

Since when have guitarists cared about practicality?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 26 Dec 2009, 08:18
So a really nice RG body and neck landed in my lap somewhat out of the blue.  Looks like I've got another project, woo-hoo.

I can't decide if I want to do something artsy-fartsy with it, or just leave it  the basic shredtastic black that it is now.  I briefly contemplated trying to do a reverse sunburst finish on it, but realized in about .00000047 of a second that the probability of that looking just exactly like shit is pretty high.  Otherwise, you'd see them on other people's guitars now.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2009, 08:26
NotAFanOfFenders: did you ever hear the story about why Pete Townshend started smashing guitars? Hint: it was because a fragile guitar failed him onstage.

Basically the long story short is that in the long run, Explorers are useless for anything but enraged destruction.
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Dec 2009, 10:28
Do you know why they are retarded?

Find yourself a hardshell (or, for that matter, soft!) case that the fucker will actually fit in, and that you don't have to pay Hella Buxx for. If you pass this test, I will think they are less retarded. None of that "coffin case" shit either, that will never get me on your side.

Then you'll give me the excuse, "But if you are paying that much for a guitar, you should be investing that kind of money into a case!" Granted. But the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom, so even if you DO get a case, fucker is gonna snap somewhere anyway.

Speaking of snapping, you think the angled 3-by-3 configuration is bad? This fucker's got the same angle AND a 6-in-line configuration, and I've seen people complain about their angled 6-in-line headstocks like skinheads complain about Obama.

And at the end of the day, you'll be thinking to yourself, "Damn it, this guitar is entirely impractical and sounds no different than a slightly more-sustainy SG. What the hell was I thinking, spending more than 2 grand on this tinkertoy piece of shit."

And you could put an eye out.

I am slightly appalled that this needs to be said to someone who is older than 8, but here goes anyway:

Patrick, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean everyone hates it, or it is without justification for existence.

Besides, you're clearly outnumbered here. Explorers are awesome, and that is all..
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Dec 2009, 12:54
Nah, Explorers are kind of lame.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Dec 2009, 14:20
Nah, Explorers are kind of lame.

No guitars are lame!

(Cue hilarious photos of lame guitars)
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Dec 2009, 16:06
Guys this is way lamer than a truckload of Xplorerz.
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/verrillinewarrivals/2985-verrilli-blonde-t

"Hand carved" -by whom a schizo shut in with a fucking pocket knife. This guitar says, fuck you. I don't give a shit what I look like.
(http://www.destroyallguitars.com/images/VerrilliBlondeT-10-09-2.jpg)

Also FUCK Patrick is right about finding cases. My fucking Black widow won't even fit in a bass case. Big Bottom, my guitar's gottem. I need the JLO model case. (I have the original HSC but thge latches are fuxd. Think I'll just repair it.)
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Dec 2009, 00:47
You know, if the carving job was less shoddily done, I'd totally love the look. Maybe if somebody did a decent job of hand painting that border instead of stabbing into the wood, or maybe inlaying it *and* binding it...

*fapfapfapfap*
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Dec 2009, 02:33
$2400 for that piece of shit. Dayuum.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Dec 2009, 07:01
I'm sorry, pre-worn guitars make me want to kick a puppy. But some of these are fap-worthy...
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/


EDITZ
Haha, I think I'll get 6 of these.
(http://www.destroyallguitars.com/images/dagmar-2.jpg)
(Dagmar!)
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 27 Dec 2009, 16:22
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/bilt/2942-bilt-relevator

(http://www.roadsterdrift.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/homer-drool-702026.gif)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 27 Dec 2009, 18:11
After allowing the holidays to put me off of building for a few weeks, I just finished spending some quality time in the garage with some fine mahogany and some 220 grit sandpaper.

The result?  The SG I've been futzing around building forever is 99% ready for paint.   I'm excited because I typically only make strats and tele derivatives.  There have been a whole lot of new experiences on this one for me. 

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_4103.jpg)

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Post by: David_Dovey on 27 Dec 2009, 18:56
Dang son that looks damn near perfect
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Dec 2009, 03:33
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/bilt/2942-bilt-relevator

Dear holy fuckshit. They took a Starcaster headstock, Marauder tailpiece design, and various design elements from Jazzies, Jags, Strats, and Teles, and then threw them all in a blender and this is what happened.

I just whitewashed my new black thermals :D
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Post by: doombilly on 28 Dec 2009, 05:01
After allowing the holidays to put me off of building for a few weeks...
FAP
That looks niiiice. And I am not a fan of SGs. The body looks like it might balance better than your standard devil horny guitar.

Jaysus, I did not see those Bilt guitars. For fuck sake. So many nice guitars out there. So little m0nie$.
 :|
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 28 Dec 2009, 19:17
Thanks, guys.

I just ordered the British Racing Green that this thing is going to end up being.

Tomorrow, I start construction on a real paint booth.   Mostly I've stained in the past and then sanded the shit out of any dust that ended up in the clear coats.  I figure if I spend a whole day tomorrow building a booth (I won't) I'll still save time over having to sand blemishes in an opaque paint like BRG.    Should be interesting, possibly hideous, when all done.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 28 Dec 2009, 21:07
RE: Explorers.

They are cool if you are in a metalcore band.

(http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/Atreyu--atreyu-591099_404_510.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Dec 2009, 21:36
Also pictured: embryonic crabsquats

(also I quite like that X-plr and ESP X's in general, even if it is played+endorsed by pretty much the shittest band possible)
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Dec 2009, 23:59
RE: Explorers.

They are cool if you are in a metalcore band.



No.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Dec 2009, 00:06
And no.
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Dec 2009, 00:12
(http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Coachella+Valley+Music+Arts+Festival+2009+y0FfHZd_PzSl.jpg)

There.. Much better.
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Dec 2009, 03:41
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/bilt/2942-bilt-relevator

Dear holy fuckshit. They took a Starcaster headstock, Marauder tailpiece design, and various design elements from Jazzies, Jags, Strats, and Teles, and then threw them all in a blender and this is what happened.

I just whitewashed my new black thermals :D
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Dec 2009, 06:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvBJmG7D3PM&feature=related

derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm.

Also unrelated. Just interested in your take on this:
http://www.gui-tarp.com/_site/
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 29 Dec 2009, 09:37
Re: The Gui-tarp.

First time I see someone using one of those I'm going to laugh until I pee.   First time I see someone using one on an artificial relic, I will probably hit him.
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Post by: Radical AC on 29 Dec 2009, 13:54
Quote
- You need a Gui-Tarp to protect your guitar!  If your guitar ever gets ding'ed or knick'd then you should invest in a Gui-Tarp and play worry free.  Gui-Tarp will not affect your play and will only work to preserve the value of your prize guitars.

Wait, is this meant to be used during shows?!  It goes against just about everything I believe but I'd want to key a guitar with that thing on it.

Coming soon, the Hummer Snuggie!  Just... give up.

EDIT: That couldn't sound less like a condom joke... screw it I stand by it.
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Dec 2009, 17:29
haha
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Post by: The Duke on 29 Dec 2009, 17:32
...the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom...

That's...fairly specific.

I got nothing against Explorers.  Certainly wouldn't be my first choice, though.


Also, finally grew a set and bought myself a new electric!  Gibson Les Paul Studio, with a wonderful red wood finish.  This (http://www.guitariste.com/forums/photos/45278-1-big.jpg), but without the pickguard.  

It plays real nice.
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Post by: Spluff on 29 Dec 2009, 20:12
Quote
Gui-tarp

hahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Dec 2009, 06:37
...the necks are flimsier than your boner when your 60-year-old sociology professor walks naked into your bedroom...

That's...fairly specific.

I got nothing against Explorers.  Certainly wouldn't be my first choice, though.

Also, finally grew a set and bought myself a new electric!  Gibson Les Paul Studio, with a wonderful red wood finish.  This (http://www.guitariste.com/forums/photos/45278-1-big.jpg), but without the pickguard.  

It plays real nice.

How much did you pay for it? Gibsons are usually way overpriced.
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Dec 2009, 15:17
Accounting for the post-Christmas sale and store credit given as a Christmas gift, it was about $800 dollars, and it was worth it.
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 30 Dec 2009, 20:50
http://www.destroyallguitars.com/

Fuck you for showing me that site.

I've just seen the most beautiful guitars in all my life. And I can afford NONE. Nor I ever will. My favourite was priced at $21,000. THAT'S TWENTY GRAND!

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/archtops/922-scharpach-archtop-guitar

I... I... My life has no meaning. I will never play one of these.

http://www.destroyallguitars.com/ribbeckenewarrivals/728-ribbecke-hjg-thinline

Oh god... BRLAGLRAGJRAGAGRR

P.S.: Yes, I have a major hard-on for Jazz Archtops, since I've been studying Jazz for the past couple years. I have a Peerless Jazz City, but compared to those, it's just utter crap. Cheap Korean-Made crap.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 30 Dec 2009, 21:03
Twenty-One Grand, actually. You can't get a thousand off that easily.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 30 Dec 2009, 22:07
Patrick is wrong, Explorers rule
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 31 Dec 2009, 00:19
Today, I got a Fender '66 Classic Player Jaguar, for only like $770. So awesome.

Shitty cell pic:
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1363/newjaguar.png)
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Post by: BlahBlah on 31 Dec 2009, 03:30
I think there's something wrong with my Jazzmaster's tremolo system. The arm seems to be really low, almost hitting the strings, and it falls out far too easily. What's wrong with it? I can't see anything noticeable.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 31 Dec 2009, 04:49
I'd visit the fine folks at offsetguitars.com and ask them. From what I understand you have to press really hard to put in the trem arm for it to get locked in place. i'd double check before doing anything drastic though. Unless it's a classic player, which, as far as I know has a threaded trem arm and socket.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 31 Dec 2009, 07:34
http://www.gui-tarp.com/_site/

IT'S A TARP
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 31 Dec 2009, 18:57
Unless it's a classic player, which, as far as I know has a threaded trem arm and socket.

The one I just posted is a Classic Player, and it isn't threaded.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 Jan 2010, 04:43
As of today (New Year's Day) the very first item listed on the Guitar Center website under "Clearance" is a zoot suit SG.   Who woulda thunk, right?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Jan 2010, 05:18
I saw one in the flesh for the first time a couple of days ago. It looks like scrap.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 01 Jan 2010, 05:19
The one I just posted is a Classic Player, and it isn't threaded.

Shows you how much I know.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Jan 2010, 18:54
Got about halfway through a Floyd Rose install and got bored, so I'm calling it quits for the night.  (It's really cold in my garage workshop)   Now I can't decide if I should wind pickups or play video games.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Jan 2010, 19:32
Finally got around to uploading pictures. Here's the christmas axe. I <3 eastwoods.
(http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab251/mikecerame/DSCN0047-1.jpg?t=1262489537)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Jan 2010, 10:34
Christmas axe-off!

(http://cache.finn.no/mmo/5/198/725/35_-1607013550.jpg)


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Post by: Christophe on 04 Jan 2010, 20:12
So I have a problem with my guitar.

The nut slot on the g-string of my guitar has gotten so worn-out to the point where it seems to be resting against the first fret. The string buzz had been particularly bad before but this is just making it unplayable. I have three options to deal with this shit. Do I:

A--plonk down the necessary amount of money to get the nut replaced, full stop ($40.00 at the local guitar shop apparently)
B--try that remedy where I put some baking soda and superglue together to fill in the nut slot (might require a nut file which I definitely do not have)
C--replace the neck of the guitar with the neck from my old, disused Squier strat, which has a nut that has not been beaten to shit
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Post by: Spluff on 04 Jan 2010, 20:15
Stick a little piece of bendable plastic into the slot.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Jan 2010, 05:58
old, disused Squier strat, which has a nut that has not been beaten to shit

Can't you you just use the squier's nut?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 05 Jan 2010, 06:27
It's most likely glued in and just not worth the hassle.

Chris, unless you trust yourself to file your own nut*, I suggest getting it done professionally. All of the remaining options will 'cause more widespread fret buzz than you started with.

* in before obvious joke
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 05 Jan 2010, 17:26
Well I had the local guitar shop look at it, and the guy told me of an even cheaper workaround involving putting some paper in the nut slot. That's what I've done so far but it definitely seems like a temporary-at-best solution so I might eventually plonk down the money for the nut job. Guy did say it would be $40.00, but the price may change depending on the material used.

What do you say guys, is 40 buxx a good price for a nut job?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 05 Jan 2010, 17:44
I've gotten cheaper nut jobs.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 05 Jan 2010, 19:20
That is a beautiful pagebreak.
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Post by: The Duke on 05 Jan 2010, 19:46
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Melodic, you are awesome.
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Post by: Bearer on 05 Jan 2010, 20:19
http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/ (http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/)

Using the attached .xls worksheet and following the steps, it shouldn't be too hard to make your own template and then cut your own nut.  Sure, you could get anal about the right size nut slot saws and files, but really a hack or coping saw and a small file should be all you need.  Best part, you can do it for under $10.
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Post by: Ballard on 05 Jan 2010, 21:33
cut your own nut

Sure, you could get anal

but really a hack or coping saw and a small file should be all you need
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Jan 2010, 07:10
Sooo. I never did get to do the extensive mods on my MIM tele. But now I have a couple gigs in NYC and will likely be taking the train in from whatever hinterland hell hole we get a room. Bottom line, I'm gonna take the tele as a backup and want to replace the bridge. Mine is not string thru. Would this be the best bet:
(http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/images/large/005-5104-000.jpg)
Thinking low cost/solid state are my priorities.
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Post by: Bearer on 06 Jan 2010, 23:08
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2085_11421030)
http://store.guitarfetish.com/wicotebrbrsa.html (http://store.guitarfetish.com/wicotebrbrsa.html)

$30, compensated saddles, and you can either go string-thru or top load them.  Plus you get the sheer mojo that is the 3 barrel tele saddle look.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 06 Jan 2010, 23:25
Hey guys, I bought a cheapo First Act capo because it was available and cheap and it worked pretty good! Now like a week later I've starting to get some string buzz from it. Do cheap capos wear out this fast? Is there a way you can tighten the grip?
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Post by: Lummer on 07 Jan 2010, 07:38
Guys.. Should I take a loan to buy a new amp head?
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Post by: Touch Me Im Sick on 07 Jan 2010, 08:35
Hey guys, I bought a cheapo First Act capo because it was available and cheap and it worked pretty good! Now like a week later I've starting to get some string buzz from it. Do cheap capos wear out this fast? Is there a way you can tighten the grip?

Sometimes I get a bit of buzz from my Dunlop. When that happens, it's usually misplaced a bit. Is it that?
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Post by: Nodaisho on 07 Jan 2010, 09:06
Guys.. Should I take a loan to buy a new amp head?
You had to know the answer that we would give if you posted this in here. We aren't here to make sure the people that post here remain financially solvent, we are here to look at and discuss sweet guitar stuff.

What head?
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jan 2010, 10:59
Some new leaks and stuff:

Squier Classic Vibe 60s Custom Telecaster:

(http://images4.thomann.de/pics/bdb/241197/2190106_800.jpg) (http://squierguitars.com/news/news_images/136/CVtele1.jpg)

Supposedly there's also a Classic Vibe '69 Thinline Tele. And yes, that's a mahogany body.

(http://www.squierguitars.com/news/news_images/136/CVtele2.jpg)

I need that double bound goodness, thank you Squier.
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Post by: glyphic on 07 Jan 2010, 13:47
Ok, guys. I've been fascinated with the idea of a baritone guitar for about 3 months now and every time I see one, My gut reaction is to buy buy buy and deal with the consequences later.

Has anyone ever actually played one? Would I get any real use out of it?
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Jan 2010, 15:17
Get the new Dano baritone. Do it.
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Post by: glyphic on 07 Jan 2010, 16:11
This video pretty much made up my mind. Getting one as soon as financially able.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gC6s-_hh8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-gC6s-_hh8)
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Post by: Ballard on 07 Jan 2010, 17:20
Fuck you Shane I just came everywhere.

That is the guitar I've been pining over for like two years but a thousand dollars cheaper. Fuck.

How's the quality control on the current Classic Vibe models?

Baritone guitar guy has a sick bass line going that is reminiscent of Manteca by Dizzy Gillespie.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2010, 06:30
~goodness~
$30, compensated saddles, and you can either go string-thru or top load them.  Plus you get the sheer mojo that is the 3 barrel tele saddle look.
Thanks, that looks like the ticket.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jan 2010, 07:30
That is the guitar I've been pining over for like two years but a thousand dollars cheaper. Fuck.

Yeah, I know, me too.

Quote
How's the quality control on the current Classic Vibe models?

I've played the 50s Strat, Duo-Sonic, and 50s P-Bass from the CV line. The necks feel a little bit plasticy, but they're great guitars. Everyone seems to lose their shit over the pine-bodied Telecaster as well.
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Post by: glyphic on 08 Jan 2010, 12:19
Just ordered that Dano baritone. Found one online for $254 and free shipping.


I am excited.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2010, 13:38
erm, the one pictured above has 4 holes. Mine has three. Should I just drill new ones?
mine:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/4257072557_dd2c2d71d2.jpg)

-

The one suggested
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2085_11421030)
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jan 2010, 13:49
Yeah, that one is "vintage" styled. I dunno when Fender switched, but I also dunno why they didn't keep the bridge plate the same way either.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 08 Jan 2010, 14:44
As they say over at the tdpri ad nauseum, "Leo got it right the first time." I don't know as i agree, but in this case, why would they bother to change it? I'd certainly want four screws holding my bridge down instead of three.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 08 Jan 2010, 15:32
Hey guys, I bought a cheapo First Act capo because it was available and cheap and it worked pretty good! Now like a week later I've starting to get some string buzz from it. Do cheap capos wear out this fast? Is there a way you can tighten the grip?

Sometimes I get a bit of buzz from my Dunlop. When that happens, it's usually misplaced a bit. Is it that?

No, I keep rearranging it and it's giving nothin' but buzz wherever I put it.

First Act, I'm assuming, is either a Walmart brand or they've made a deal exclusively with Walmart. Yeah, I bought it at Walmart because it is literally the only store in this county that doesn't sell only groceries, and the nearest music store is like 45  minutes away.

There was something else I was going to ask about...
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2010, 15:45
As they say over at the tdpri ad nauseum, "Leo got it right the first time." I don't know as i agree, but in this case, why would they bother to change it? I'd certainly want four screws holding my bridge down instead of three.
Soooo, no big deal for me to drill it for that bridge?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 08 Jan 2010, 16:13
Probably not, unless you are worried about collector value or whatever. The new outside screw holes might end up close enough to the old ones that you need to fill them before drilling the new ones. There are a good dozen ways of doing that, but you might not even need to.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jan 2010, 09:06
Nah, it is a 1995 MIM tele I bought for $130 used. Not so collectible. Yeah, I was a little concerned that either the two outside holes would be in the same place or that they'd be right next to them and I'd not get a solid grip with those two screws.

EDITZ
Meh, looking at the scale drawings that they have for both Vintage, and Modern styles it gets more corn-fusing. http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2083_6080660

Mine doesn't look like either. But really my problem is the SADDLES on my bridge. Couldn't I just swap those for some more efficient ones? I have the 6 little barrel shaped ones with the groove for the string and two allen head screws to adjust height. These were obviously mf'd in a group home for wayward meth whores and huffers.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Jan 2010, 09:12
First Act isn't a Wal-Mart brand. I've seen it in Toys R' Us and a bunch of other places. It's just a company that manufactures musical instruments for children. The downside of this is that the quality of the instruments is closer to that of toys than real instruments.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Jan 2010, 09:15
Honestly Shane, the neck on the $1800 model (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-American-Deluxe-Telecaster-Electric-Guitar?sku=511147) is bullshit too. So I'll take that.

Fuck you Fender your guitars do not feel solid for the obscene price you are charging for them.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jan 2010, 10:00
like maybe this:
http://www.graphtech.com/product-226-2/
would work. But jeez. I could get a whole bridge for what the saddles cost and still have some Pabst money...
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Post by: Lummer on 09 Jan 2010, 11:12
Yup. Matt Pike, both dudes from Mastodon and a squillion others.
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Post by: Radical AC on 10 Jan 2010, 19:21
So, I'm considering getting this;

(http://www.bismanlive.com/members/70/photo_506_image.jpg)

And putting in these;

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/8/4/452284.jpg)

I've always loved the sound Doug Martsch gets on his lace equipped fender, and wanted a bit of the same with something different.  I don't know a whole lot about the Dewey Decibel guitar other than Nick Zinner plays one.  Not real expensive (Can find one for the price of a Dano) though, so it isn't a significant investment.  Well, compared to the more than 3k I'm looking at dropping on the rest of my setup.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Jan 2010, 19:48
Flipout Strats are tacky and played out.

As are Lace Sensors, particularly in Strats.

Sorry man.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 00:26
What the shit. I mean aside from thew whole "upisde down guitar woah" thing going on there, it is completely impractical. Inaccessible upper frets, Surely uncomfortable as hell to wear, and the jack on the top and more than likely interfering with yr arms. Why would anybody value novelty value enough to bother with that much bullshit?

EDIT: Upon further research I've found that the usual Strat jack is vestigial, and the working jack is in what used to be the top cutaway. I stand by my point still.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Jan 2010, 02:05
Holy poops Dovey I was about to make nearly that exact same post.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Jan 2010, 02:09
I have been inhabited by yr spirit, obviously
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Post by: Spluff on 11 Jan 2010, 03:07
To be fair it's got 4 more accessible frets than most acoustics and a few electrics.  I'm not sure why it would be that uncomfortable, either? It would probably be poorly weighted and unwieldy, but probably no more than several other guitars on the market. The biggest problem would be the location of the knobs and the switch, and trying to sit in on a stand.
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Post by: Radical AC on 11 Jan 2010, 03:29
The jack is actually between the big horn and neck joint.  It is a bit gimmicky, no doubt, but that's a bit of the idea.  I'm not really sure how LACE in a strat is tacky.  Not very original, granted, but they were convention in their product line for much of the 90's.  It's also a tone I like, taking precedence over originality.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jan 2010, 07:49
First Act isn't a Wal-Mart brand. I've seen it in Toys R' Us and a bunch of other places. It's just a company that manufactures musical instruments for children. The downside of this is that the quality of the instruments is closer to that of toys than real instruments.

They make some pretty nice higher-end stuff, too. They have a shop on Boylston Street in Boston...check it out next time you're in town, man. Their semi-hollows are ace.
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Post by: glyphic on 11 Jan 2010, 09:08
Stop making me re-evaluate my mindset!
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Post by: Ballard on 11 Jan 2010, 10:37
In the theater district, on the green line? I'll be sure to check it out.

Get your ass down to Boston Shane! Why haven't we met yet?

I'll be there again Sunday night, Monday, Tuesday.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jan 2010, 10:39
Dude, I probably won't be down until PAX. I'm debating going either the weekend of April 10th or the following weekend (my birthday) as well.

The shop...I know it's somewhere between Copley and Hynes on the Green Line. If you're going towards Hynes/Berklee, it's on the right side of the street.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Jan 2010, 19:40
So I put in my order for some Brighton Rocks (http://store.guitarfetish.com/brrovisppicl.html) pickups from GFS, along with some new bridge saddles and strings. I am so stoked.

(uhh does anyone have a soldering gun I can borrow)
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Post by: Bearer on 11 Jan 2010, 20:52
@doombilly

It shouldn't be too hard  to replace the bridge.  You just have to mark off where the back of the old bridge plate is on the body, remove the old bridge, and fill the old screw holes (woodglue+sawdust should do the trick, or get a bunch of tooth-picks and glue them in there).  Align the new bridge over the string-thru body holes/previously made mark using tape, and string the two e strings (this will straighten out the new bridge).  Mark and drill the new holes, and screw it down.  Check out the forum at www.tdpri.com if you need help.  Lots of good tele info there.
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Jan 2010, 06:46
My Dano baritone is on its way to my apartment as we speak. I just have to make it through work before I get to unwrap it.
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Jan 2010, 08:29
,,!,,
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 09:32
\o

(was that for me)
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Jan 2010, 10:04
o/
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Jan 2010, 12:04
@doombilly
.  Check out the forum at www.tdpri.com if you need help.  Lots of good tele info there.
Yeah, I'm on tdpri. Still everytime I think I got it solved I see another pitfall. Probably just being over-cautious. Thanks.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jan 2010, 12:35
why have you not left the board

Acting like a bit of an asshole there, sam.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 12 Jan 2010, 12:59
no actually he isn't
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jan 2010, 13:29
What is up with the recent Zingoleb hate?
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Post by: Lummer on 12 Jan 2010, 13:37
Explanation via pm, plox...
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Post by: sean on 12 Jan 2010, 14:00
why haven't we been hating on zingoleb this entie time guys?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 14:08
Man, I was hoping the drama would stay out of the music forum.

I was a dick and did something pretty douchebaggy to put it lightly. I apologized but no one really cares because, well, I'm and outsider and insulted someone they held dear to their hearts and bowed out of the infinite pony part of the forums for it. Just because you tell me to leave doesn't mean I will, but I'll leave your sacred little ground alone where I'm not welcome. I'm not leaving these music forums, though, because they still make a difference in my life, far more than your group hug down there.

So you don't have to deal with me there, but you do up here.

And stop sending me hate mail, I'm starting to get an ego over it.
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Post by: sean on 12 Jan 2010, 15:20
I'm starting to get an ego

about fucking time

also the point is yr a terrible poster in the first place and you did a really shitty thing on top of that and some of us use both forums and have no interest in seeing you at all.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 15:24
And I have an interest in at least being in the music forums.

Conflict of interests! You can keep telling me to leave and getting pissed off that I'm still here or you can settle for the fact that I'm only here, in the music forums, and not there. Sound good?
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Post by: sean on 12 Jan 2010, 15:30
no
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Post by: The Duke on 12 Jan 2010, 15:33
How about them...

*snaps fingers and points* ...guitars eh?
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Jan 2010, 15:50
Your friend invites you to a party. You show up and take a dump on the tennis court. When you are asked to leave, you insist on still being able to use the pool because it is fun.

You then pee in the pool to make a point.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Jan 2010, 16:02
Explanation via pm, plox...

Me too, please. I hate being out of the loop!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 16:37
You're just rehashing what A¶de (or however you spell it said, and I believe he said it) in the other thread. And to further his analogy rather than yours -

I'm at a party where people are free to come and go as they please. I insult someone without really meaning to, people get upset, so I decide to go to another party. Then some of the people from that first party are there and are still upset and the rest of the people at the second party are trying to figure out what the hell is this, now.

I don't like drama. I'm doing my best to avoid it by ducking out of there, but you're not making me leave here no matter how long and hard you yell. To misquote a dumbass, if you don't like it, then ban me.

@ Duke - guitars will never beat INTERWEB DRAMAZ. D:D:D:D:D:
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 Jan 2010, 17:17
Kill one baby, they never let you forget it...
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Post by: glyphic on 13 Jan 2010, 06:18
So... guitars...

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11734.jpg)

The neck is so long it almost feels like I'm playing a bass. The sound is so twangy and full, though. Plus, it is probably the lightest guitar I've played in a long time. The tremolo bar makes me feel like I'm going to snap the entire bridge off, but I don't plan on using it too much anyway.

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC11733.jpg)

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Post by: doombilly on 13 Jan 2010, 06:56
So exactly 78billions years ago I ordered a replacement tremelo bar for Musty my USAMERICAN S8 Fender Mustang. The lady on the phone, (back in those days you ordered on what we called the telephone. It is like your iPhone, with out the 'i'). The nice lady said they had two versions one would fit and one would not. The one they sent does not. So on the 78billionth anniversary I am contemplating on using this internet to find one that fits. GFS has one saying it is a 10/32 or some such. Does anyone know that if there is a chance it would fit? Because I might order one with the tele bridge replacement. Or maybe just tie and onion to my belt...
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Jan 2010, 14:34
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2085_11421030)
Ordered ..sigh....
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Post by: Lummer on 13 Jan 2010, 15:01
Goddamnit my Flying V kicks so much ass!!!
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Jan 2010, 15:06
So... guitars...

I haven't snapped the tremolo yet.
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Post by: The Duke on 13 Jan 2010, 18:53
Goddamnit my Flying V kicks so much ass!!!

You have a Flying V?!

rgghmmrghhmrhggmmm...

(That is the sound of a jealous man with an erection for a guitar.)
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Jan 2010, 02:11
Yes.

Yes I do.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0878.jpg)

BOW DOWN!
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2010, 08:10
Quote
The SE Torero offers many "firsts" for PRS Guitars, and is dubbed by Paul Reed Smith himself as "a shredder's dream." Features unique to the new SE Torero and first ever for PRS are the use of a Floyd Rose bridge, EMG pickups, and neck-through body construction.

Quote
Wayne Johnson, PRS Amp team member and a 2008 recipient of "The Ten Hottest New Guitarists of the Month" by Guitar Player magazine forum members describes this new model as "sonically devastating," and PRS's SE Inspector Dong Chang also offered, "This guitar makes you play harder."

Hi, we're PRS and we're trying to copy ESP and Schecter. (http://www.harmony-central.com/ProductImages/PRS-Releases-First-Model-Featuring-a-Floyd-Rose-Bridge-The-SE-Torero/large-torero_art.jpg)
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 Jan 2010, 09:18
Holy crowstick, that is not only an awesome guitar but an awesome picture of an awesome guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2010, 09:23
Wow, not at all what I was trying to convey there.
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Post by: sean on 14 Jan 2010, 09:30
man you even have bad taste in guitars!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 Jan 2010, 09:57
I was talking about Lummer's guitar, not the PRS.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2010, 10:32
Don't forget that Dong Chang said it makes you play harder, Sam.
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Jan 2010, 10:44
Obviously Lummer's is too small. Nancy-boy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTX3CaTWbkM

Man, you know those "sterling by Music man ax40" guitars would not be so bad if they took a clue from the V and just made it a normal color and got away from the flamey flamey flame veneer.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/7/8/3/586783.jpg)

See that would look ok in White or Black.
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Jan 2010, 14:38
That guy's just really tiny.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jan 2010, 18:04
So hey are the pickups available from guitarfetish any good? I've heard some good things about some, but really know very little. I'm working on a weirdass esquire based guitar thingy and need a tele bridge pickup. I also made a mockup body out of scrap pine for ergonomics and appearance testing and when I find a camera would like some aesthetic feedback.
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Post by: Christophe on 14 Jan 2010, 18:23
Those Brighton Rocks from GFS are supposed to come on the 19th. As soon as I get that, get my guitar back from the shop and find a soldering gun, I'll let you know.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jan 2010, 18:35
right on
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 14 Jan 2010, 18:43

(http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6464/dsc0060c.jpg)
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9343/dsc0059i.jpg)

Here's my semi modest gear. Lacking a Ceriatone 18w with 2x12'' cab and my acoustics, but other than that, it's all there.

Say praises/insults at will!
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Jan 2010, 19:34
GFS pickups are good for what you pay for.  I built a tele-partscaster with a mini humbucker and their repro-60's tele bridge.  Pretty nice, and unlike higher end pups, if you don't like it at least you didn't spend $100+ on it.  I like 'em pleanty good.

Also, very interested about those Brighton Rock pickups.  Any chance of a video or audio demo after you get them?

P.S. The Brighton Rock pickups definitely should have been named Fat Bottom Girls.  Just saying.
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Jan 2010, 01:53
I'm planning on doing before-after recordings. Hopefully they will turn out well.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 15 Jan 2010, 03:16
Given that you've mentioned soldering gun instead of iron, I'm going to assume you haven't done a whole lot of soldering.   Based on that assumption, my free advice to you is to do some practicing before doing a pickup swap.  Not only can you cook components if you leave the heat on there too long, but (far more likely) the giant ass blobs of solder that you're going to get on everything can really affect tone.   Soldering isn't hard, but it does take a little bit of practice.  

In other news, you can pick up a soldering iron for about $15 at Radio Shack or Home Depot that will work just fine.  

I'm not trying to be a pompous ass here, so if I'm coming off as one I apologize.   I've done a lot of soldering over the years though, and the results haven't always been pretty.  I just wanted to throw a caveat out there for anyone considering doing their first pickup swap.  My other advice is do it.  So much fun tearing your shit apart to modify/fix/break/whatever it.  Just be aware that you can fuck stuff up, but it's almost always fixable.


edit:  Correcting a mis-statement
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Jan 2010, 06:14
Speaking of GFS, what's the deal on the Xaviere Guit-fiddles? They seem too inexpensive to be of serious value.
No reviews on the Offsets yet on Harm Central neither.
But BONER!
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2086_6899438)

Orange guitar would look nice with the orange tolex Avatar and Tiny Terror. (And my Aqua Suit!)
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Jan 2010, 06:15
~GEAROVERLOAD~
Here's my semi modest gear. Lacking a Ceriatone 18w with 2x12'' cab and my acoustics, but other than that, it's all there.

Say praises/insults at will!
I praise thee!
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Jan 2010, 16:28
Given that you've mentioned soldering gun instead of iron, I'm going to assume you haven't done a whole lot of soldering.

I have made that mistake way too many times (saying gun when I mean iron) but yeah, I've not done very much soldering, at all. Thanks for the advice though, it is appreciated.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 15 Jan 2010, 16:50
'tis cool man.  Because I love building and modding my guitars I'm always excited  to see someone else with a little DIY  spirit in them.  Read (watch?) a tutorial or two on the 'net and get a little practice before going live on your guitar, because it sucks not being happy with the results, you know?
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Jan 2010, 01:14
Unless it's a classic player, which, as far as I know has a threaded trem arm and socket.

The one I just posted is a Classic Player, and it isn't threaded.

It is not a Classic Player. That's either a CIJ or MIJ. Know how I can tell? Because the Classic Player series doesn't have year-specific reissues, and as you said in the original post, it's a "66 Classic Player Jaguar". That is the name of a guitar that does not exist. Classic Player Jaguars also do not have blocks or binding, and the trem arm is threaded. Your Jag has blocks, binding, and your trem arm is not threaded.

Prove me wrong, and I will give you my AVRI.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 18 Jan 2010, 12:58
Y. At least, they look cool. Not sure if it would actually sound better, I am not a bassist.
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Post by: glyphic on 18 Jan 2010, 13:11
I have a 1x15 and a 4x10 in my rig. Mostly, the difference I notice is that the 15 gives me a more well-rounded tone. The 4x10 is all whump whump bling bling, whereas the 15 is most sprang sprum sprung. AMIRITE?
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jan 2010, 22:12
sooooooo



i'm thinking of buying an emperor 2x15 bass cab to replace my ashdown 4x10. y/n?

How much would you want for the 4x10 + shipping, and how long would you be willing to wait for me to give you exactly that amount? 'Cause I would really really really like a 4x10 cab to attach to my Marshall. The sonic assfuckery...
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2010, 13:30
Wife just informed me that my replacement telecaster bridge just arrived from GFS. I know you guys were all on the edges of your collective seats.
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Jan 2010, 14:43
Man my GFS stuff is supposed to get here today. It's quarter to 3.

I mean I don't even have a soldering iron or the guitar I'm gonna put that stuff on right now, I just want to see the goods.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2010, 15:15
Call me a WHAMbulance. I've ordered another tremelo bar that doesn't screw in to the mustang bridge. <sigh> Oh well, gotta practice tonight otherwise I'd be pulling the tele bridge off STAT.
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Jan 2010, 16:33
Just remember to mark off where the back of the old bridge sits on the body so you can line the new one up.  Screw in middle hole, string high and low E's, screw down the rest, and you should be set.  If any old holes are visible, then fuck it, your guitar has character!.
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Jan 2010, 17:03
Yay, everything just got here!

Now I need the guitar to put all that crap into (I also need a soldering iron).
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Jan 2010, 17:09
Radioshack?
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Jan 2010, 17:12
Borrow it from a friend probably. I am cheap.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2010, 17:21
Fuck that, you totally need to shoplift it. :D

Heyo fixed the improper fitting Mustang whammy bar with some teflon tape. Played the lat two sets (1 gig, 1 practice) with my 70's single coil guitars. Such a different sound.

Also Jesus Judas Jackolantern. My Mustang is crazy heavy. I will take some pics that are detailed. Maybe one of you wood nerds, sprites or other sylvan folk can i.d. the grain and make a guess at what the body is made of. It aint Alder. Honestly it is nearly as heavy as the wife's 60's/70's franken P-bass. And all the pics of sunburst 'stangs I've seen SUCK by comparison. If I could get this burst repro'd I'd have it on every guitar. You know, when I become ridiculously wealthy and what not. (Can you shoplift a paint job?).
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Jan 2010, 19:41
oh hey guitar thread, what's up?  (http://misadigital.com/)
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Jan 2010, 20:11
OH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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Post by: sean on 19 Jan 2010, 20:27
oh my god

i could do so much rad ambient shit with that thing
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Post by: Spluff on 19 Jan 2010, 20:58
That's kinda cool. It would probably cost a ridiculous amount though, when you could do the same thing with already existing equipment.
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Post by: Invammocon on 19 Jan 2010, 21:21
(http://i803.photobucket.com/albums/yy319/invammocon/111.jpg)
I'm Aaron and I can't say no to novelty guitars.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Jan 2010, 22:05
That's... the least classy guitar of all time. It's totally guitarded.



I would pay abhorrent amounts of money for that Misa guitar. It is everything I have ever wanted from a lover, in musical form.
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Post by: sean on 19 Jan 2010, 22:21
I can't say no to novelty guitars.

do you let them touch you at night without yr permission.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jan 2010, 22:49
i'm asking $300 and i could hold it until then, also you'd have to pay shipping which might be a lot. but i can hold it if you pay $300+shipping! i'll take pics of it and write down the specs and PM it to you on here.

Oh dude, totally sweet! Thing is, I don't have a job yet. But after I am employed and once I've got all my other important ducks in a row, I'll certainly get back to you. It's good to know that you'd be willing to part with it. And I don't expect you to hang onto it forever for me, if you wind up having to flip it then I don't care if you flip it to somebody else. Just, if you don't HAVE to part with it yet, I wanna get my name in the hat. Thanks!
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Jan 2010, 14:26
I'm Aaron and I can't say no to novelty guitars.

The fist one should definitely be rock-horns instead.
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Post by: jeph on 20 Jan 2010, 15:25
Fuck that, you totally need to shoplift it. :D

Heyo fixed the improper fitting Mustang whammy bar with some teflon tape. Played the lat two sets (1 gig, 1 practice) with my 70's single coil guitars. Such a different sound.

Also Jesus Judas Jackolantern. My Mustang is crazy heavy. I will take some pics that are detailed. Maybe one of you wood nerds, sprites or other sylvan folk can i.d. the grain and make a guess at what the body is made of. It aint Alder. Honestly it is nearly as heavy as the wife's 60's/70's franken P-bass. And all the pics of sunburst 'stangs I've seen SUCK by comparison. If I could get this burst repro'd I'd have it on every guitar. You know, when I become ridiculously wealthy and what not. (Can you shoplift a paint job?).


Every really old Fender I've ever handled has been ridiculously heavy. An ex-girlfriend had a 60's Strat she got from her grandmother that weighed more than my Les Paul. I don't know if it's the finish or denser wood or what but they just weigh a ton.

If I had to guess at the wood it'd be ash, ash can get pretty hefty depending on the kind. AFAIK Fender wasn't making guitars out of maple back then. And not all ash has that crazy intense swamp-ash grain.
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Jan 2010, 16:24
Right.  "Swamp Ash" is the southern cousin to the denser and heavier northern "baseball bat" ash.  I wouldn't say it would be uncommon for a guitar to be made out of this wood.  Would also make it heavy as fuck.
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Jan 2010, 16:42
I heard the ash they use to make baseball bats is running out because of climate change or some shit.  Hope that doesn't happen with the swamp ash.
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Post by: Invammocon on 20 Jan 2010, 17:09
I'm Aaron and I can't say no to novelty guitars.

The fist one should definitely be rock-horns instead.

Oh yeah, I'll just paint over it and add some giant fingers to it, that'll make it infinitely more accessable to play.
But really, it is pretty comfortable to play.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jan 2010, 18:17
ok, first recon on  the tele re-bridge... the gfs 'vintage style' is gonna have to go about 1/2" closer to the neck from where the other'n terminated. But I guess the string length can't be that big o' deal else if you drilled it to be string-thru it'd be way-way off. I took a shetload of pics I'll upload tomorrow if anyone is interested.
Good: The 3 holes drilled for the mexi bridge will be covered. They will be well away from the 4 holes I need to drill for the gfs bridge.
Meh: This is a lot lighter material than the bent slab of chromed crap that was in place. Ima have to make a template from the other bridge to make sure I get this bastard centered correctly.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Jan 2010, 18:34
I hope that I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but your scale length (bridge to nut) has to stay the same else all your frets are in the wrong place.

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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jan 2010, 19:02
Then I cannot use this bridge w/o routing this guitar. Which aint worth the trouble. f!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Jan 2010, 19:07
Can you post some pics of what is going on exactly?  Maybe somebody here can offer you a kludge.
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Jan 2010, 19:10
Just mark where the longest bridge saddle came to with the old bridge, and hen line up the new one.  At most, you'll have to drill a few new holes.  If the old holes are exposed, just paint them black so they don't stand out as much.

EDIT: Or, you could figure out what type of screws the saddles are attached to the back of the bridge with, and go get some longer ones.  That should work fan-freaking-tasticly.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 20 Jan 2010, 19:15
And that's not far off from what I'm thinking.   This is why I'm asking for some pictures, because on a tele (this was a tele right?) I can't imagine what would be going on that would cause you to need to rout the body at the bridge, so I'm sure I'm just really confused about something.      I bet we can come up with a solution that doesn't involve routing anything.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2010, 04:11
Alright, will post some images later today. Unfortunately I took all the saddles out of the old bridge to get to the string holes I was using to mark the tape put down as a guide. The deal is, this bridge is shorter. I have a bunch of pics of side/side comparisons and a dry run of putting it in the guitar.
I was thinking that the saddles should strike at about the right place as is... but if I HAD to put the back of the bridge in the exact location as the old one, I could always cut the bridge in two. Use the bridge part for the BRIDGE and then slide the other part up the 1/2" or so to hold the bridge pup...
But obviously I'd rather not. Pics soon. Thanks for the input folks.
EDIT
This is probably the most telling tele bridge fiasco pic.
FIG 1-1
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4031/4293015714_e7b3018a54.jpg)

See how they line up (or don't)
FIG 1-2
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4292274367_776cfb3d59.jpg)

One more from another'n angle
FIG 1-3
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4292273735_a24d25ec7f.jpg)

More here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/theblots/
 
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Jan 2010, 04:43
Ah... now I understand what's going on.

I'm running out the door for work right now, but let me ruminate on this one a bit.
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Jan 2010, 09:09
Hmm, that is a conundrum.  Maybe put the bridge pickup in place, then string the two e strings through the top load holes to line it  up (don't tighten to much though).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/tele_bridge_comp.jpg)
I think as long as the verry backs of the bridges are in the same place, the worst you'll have to do is drill some new screw holes, but the old ones will be covered the bridge if my little drawing there is accurate.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2010, 09:38
Problem is the pickup will not fit if the backs of the bridges are lined up.
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Jan 2010, 09:52
Oh wow, I screwed that one up, sorry, I meant as long as the pickup-slots are matched up.  Try putting the bridge pickup on the bridge, then stringing up the two E's through the top-loader holes.  Tighten the tuning posts until the bridge is level, then mark where the new screw holes should be.  That should do the trick I think.
EDIT:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/tele_bridge_comp2.jpg)
here's a better drawing
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Post by: GenericName on 21 Jan 2010, 14:49
But then the intonation will be all off! But hopefully not too much and then you can just mess with it a lot until it works?
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2010, 14:58
But then the intonation will be all off! But hopefully not too much and then you can just mess with it a lot until it works?
yah, that's what I'm worried about. I already have one guitar that won't stay in tune.  :?

EDIT
I am almost of a mind to just drill three holes on the back lip of the orig bridge and use the saddles from the new one. Wish I had a drill press...
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Jan 2010, 18:05
But then the intonation will be all off! But hopefully not too much and then you can just mess with it a lot until it works?
yah, that's what I'm worried about. I already have one guitar that won't stay in tune.  :?

EDIT
I am almost of a mind to just drill three holes on the back lip of the orig bridge and use the saddles from the new one. Wish I had a drill press...
If you string the strings through the top-load holes, you could just shorten the saddle screws until they're right.  This means you'd have to top-load the strings, but you were going to do that anyway, right?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Jan 2010, 18:46
^^^^This.   Plus, thank god for bolt on necks, if you're --you know-- like an 1/8" off, you can shim the neck out if you have to.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Jan 2010, 04:55
Otay buckwheats!
Yeah, it does not have holes drilled for string thru. Seemed like that was unnecessary. I'll give it a whirl. And report back with probably more info that you care to hear about. :P
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Jan 2010, 07:10
Please do!  Every musician should know how to fix up or make their own instrument unique!  Make stuff no one's ever heard of.  Example: a short scale Thinline Telecaster Bass this guy made out of a squire shorty bass and an old tele body:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/rhomco/TeleThinlineBass002-2.jpg)
If made out of a heavy wood like walnut or mahogany and played with a thick enough strap, neck dive issue is basically solved.  Is this awesome?  Very yes!
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Jan 2010, 07:46
haha, I wish my Black Widow held a better tuning. They had a few things right, unless a lightweight intrument is your desire. The Stop piece behind the bridge is just a gigantic block of chromed steel screwed down to the body. That thing is probably 6 ounces on its own. The nut, a piece of chromed steel with 6 holes drilled. (It has a zero fret). Wish the neck weren't so oddball. I ended up shimming the gap on the side of the neck I mentioned before. I cut a rectangled piece out of an electronic receptacle box. Just jammed it in there. Now the G stays in better tune but the b is a little more problematic. Also sometimes the strings go sharp, then flat, then keep going back/forth. Anyway, my wife is going out of town Sunday, hopefully I'll get some time to work on the tele then. Got some roof repairs to do too though... :(
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Jan 2010, 07:47
That bass is not helping me deal with my tele/thinline-gas.  :|
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Post by: David_Dovey on 22 Jan 2010, 20:54
a short scale Thinline Telecaster Bass

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Post by: Ballard on 23 Jan 2010, 13:43
In before the rest of the page is a FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF quote tunnel.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Jan 2010, 14:47
a short scale Thinline Telecaster Bass

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In before the rest of the page is a FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF quote tunnel.

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Post by: Christophe on 23 Jan 2010, 15:42
AHHHH C'MON FFFFFFFFFFF A GUY
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2010, 17:32
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/S1uiKQeuqLI/AAAAAAAAOhM/PE9fR2VOv7Y/s400/IMG00260-20100123-1747.jpg) (http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars)
click pic for moar
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jan 2010, 17:51
fix pic for moar
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2010, 17:53
huh, does this not work?
http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars
I aint drunk, just drinking...
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jan 2010, 17:55
Oops... there's nothing to see here. Either you do not have access to these photos, or they don't exist at this web address. Please contact the owner directly to gain access.
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Post by: Spluff on 23 Jan 2010, 17:59
It works for me.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2010, 17:59
Gol durn intreewebz
http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars#
How about now?
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jan 2010, 23:10
you fixed the intertewbs.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Jan 2010, 23:29
Fuck my sister, that's a gorgeous Mustang.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 05:15
yeah, I think Jeph was right. Maybe it is ASH (Not swampy). Crazy to use this as my Parker backup as it is easily twice as heavy AND a short scale. It was the only USAmerican guitar in Dellington's Pawn shop of Washington NC. I almost lost it to someone else the day i went to put in on layaway. 10 weeks and $200 later it came home with me. But I really love the burst on that. I used to try to get all my guitars in a burst but most just did not look that good. Kinda spoiled me...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Jan 2010, 06:59
Got any more pictures of that jazzbox?
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 08:01
Got any more pictures of that jazzbox?
Just took some. Will post later.

Guys! Bridge is on. Gonna walk some chihuahuas before I string up the mexi red. What's the best thing to take sharpie ink off of chrome?
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Jan 2010, 10:44
Rubbing alcohol. Sharpies and most permanent markers are alcohol-based.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 11:05
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/S1yX56E1L5I/AAAAAAAAOk8/Lk44jslkhWs/s288/IMG00289-20100124-1352.jpg)
Woot, did a whole set up myself using this:
http://www.fender.com/support/telecaster_setup_guide.php
-and a modicum of common sense. I need to get me a decent steel ruler and some feeler gauges. Bu tI kind of let my ear, the tuner and the lack/presence of string buzz be my guide. I don't know if it the bridge or that I reset the pickup heights but this thing sounds like a bear now. Growwwwwwllllll!

Also moar guitarded pics here: http://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/Guitars#

NOTE: All my guitars are kind of grimey. Except for the parts that work, do things. Also I have not washed a car I own in almost 10 yrs. So, sorry about the filth. I know a lot of guys are more careful and clean. I really should rent myself out as a guitar relic-er-er-er.
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Post by: Bearer on 24 Jan 2010, 11:11
The brass saddles are supposed to make the tone of a tele more beefy, so maybe that could be it.  Awesome to see it on there!  How's the intonation?
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jan 2010, 11:28
Actually I think after considerable adjustment, it intonates better than it did. The E/A saddle, I had to keep backing it up. The D/G was one of those, "I'll split the difference" moments. One was going a bit sharp on the 12th fret, the other a tad flat. I actually increated the bow of the neck as it kept buzzing in random places. The high E used to be a problem because the saddle would flip over or the @$%^#$ height adj allen would back out while playing. So the string buzz/relief issue might have been going on with the other bridge. Only I couldn't hear it over my cussing the thing. :P I'll get soome guages and set the pickups to a standard height, I guess. I kind of like its new found mean-assed sound. But I'm likely losing some sustain if the poles are too close to the strings, I reckon.

Also I was really surprised at how well the bridge pickup was wired and glad I didn't have to clip it and re-solder. Volume pot is a wee bit wobbly too. Anyone have opinions on the merits of going to a higher impedance pot on a single coil?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 24 Jan 2010, 12:49
Anyone have opinions on the merits of going to a higher impedance pot on a single coil?

Unless you're swapping the pickup to a bucker, something active, or something seriously hot and probably ceramic instead of AlNiCo, don't. 
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Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 00:12
Tom Anderson came out with a full-on Les Paul clone (http://andersonguitars.com/weekly.html).

spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Jan 2010, 00:50
Fffffffffffffffffffffff

-uck flame maple.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Jan 2010, 05:53
Fffffffffffffff-

-uck you, flamed maple is perfectly legit on some guitars, including that.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jan 2010, 13:05
Tom Anderson came out with a full-on Les Paul clone (http://andersonguitars.com/weekly.html).

spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

Anybody else notice that the bridge and tailpiece are recessed into the maple? That's an interesting idea...
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Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 13:09
Fffffffffffffffffffffff

-uck flame maple.

hurf durf I don't understand one of the most basic traditions of Les Paul style guitars dating back to the 1950s
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Post by: glyphic on 25 Jan 2010, 14:00
In some parts of Asia, it is tradition to drown females upon birth.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Jan 2010, 14:06
Yeah but dude I'm gonna have to side with Jeph on this one. As long as it's not flamed maple that looks like the Great Chicago Fire (I AM LOOKING AT YOU, PRS), and instead looks like maybe a nice crackling fireplace, then it is fine.

I still think Explorers are worthless instruments though.
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Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 17:52
In some parts of Asia, it is tradition to drown females upon birth.

yes that is a perfectly valid comparisonOH WAIT no it isn't what is wrong with you
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 25 Jan 2010, 17:53
Tom Anderson came out with a full-on Les Paul clone (http://andersonguitars.com/weekly.html).

spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt

Anybody else notice that the bridge and tailpiece are recessed into the maple? That's an interesting idea...

Peavey did this with their EVH models and it made them hell of comfy to play. If I had $4,000 that didn't need to go towards my mortgage I'd totally be buying one of these things.
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Jan 2010, 18:40
In some parts of Asia, it is tradition to drown females upon DISPLAYING THEIR FLAMED MAPLE CAPS.
Well that makes sense, nothing to see here. They had it coming. I'm drunk.
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Post by: glyphic on 26 Jan 2010, 07:06
I... I just don't even know what to say anymore.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jan 2010, 12:35
Peavey did this with their EVH models and it made them hell of comfy to play.

If I wanted a Floyd and buckers, I'd get a Jackson or an Ibanez and at least look the part.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Jan 2010, 16:45
You people with your guitars. Um, my work decided to fucking block QC.net. Probably because they suck dead goat ballz. So I might be more sparse on here -to the good fortune of you folk. I would like to express my gratitude for the crowdsource assist on my tele-mod and other things. Y'all were right on the closed back avatar cab too. (Not that I have an open back to a/b test, but I think this works).

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Post by: jeph on 26 Jan 2010, 17:44
Peavey did this with their EVH models and it made them hell of comfy to play.

If I wanted a Floyd and buckers, I'd get a Jackson or an Ibanez and at least look the part.

Mine was one of the (fairly uncommon) stoptail models. :smug:

Ended up selling it because the pickups weren't that great :unsmug:
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Post by: Tehz on 26 Jan 2010, 19:35
So, I might be trading my CIJ Jazzmaster for a 78 Gibson "The Paul" this weekend. It's kind of beaten up and the pickups are non-original, but I plan on making something of a project out of it, cleaning it up and trying to make a real player out of it. I'm pretty excited.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 27 Jan 2010, 04:06
Fffffffffffffffffffffff

-uck flame maple.

hurf durf I don't understand one of the most basic traditions of Les Paul style guitars dating back to the 1950s

hurf durk who gives a fuck, shit's still ugly as all get-out
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Jan 2010, 05:40
So, I might be trading my CIJ Jazzmaster for a 78 Gibson "The Paul" this weekend. It's kind of beaten up and the pickups are non-original, but I plan on making something of a project out of it, cleaning it up and trying to make a real player out of it. I'm pretty excited.

Do it, 'cause you know, Fuuuuuuck offsets.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 09:43
Um no?
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Post by: Lummer on 27 Jan 2010, 09:59
It really is quite funny how tastes in this thread are completely polarized.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 10:06
Tell me a Fender Duo-Sonic II is not a sexy muffuckin' guitar.

I dare you.
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jan 2010, 11:37
Oh god Shane is that-- SHANE PUT DOWN THE FUCKING DETONATOR
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2010, 11:57
That's what I thought.

(http://www.louisvillediscgolf.com/Jeremy/Picture%201.png)
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jan 2010, 12:17
Upping the ante

(http://camouflageculture.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/auto_liz_phair.jpg)
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Post by: greenMonkey on 27 Jan 2010, 14:56
UNF.

Oh and the girl looks pretty too.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Jan 2010, 15:54
Fuck and Run!

Also, (http://www.detroitfunk.com/imagecopyrighted/OCT06/DSC01471.jpg) Played by Fred 'Sonic' Smith and Patti Smith.
Ask 4 it by name.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Jan 2010, 06:10
It really is quite funny how tastes in this thread are completely polarized.

The only reason for my name on this board is because i go by 'Bigfan' on fender-related forums

Edit: I also totally love offsets
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Jan 2010, 03:11
I just want a goddamned 8-string.
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Post by: glyphic on 29 Jan 2010, 10:31
(http://www.hdcustomguitars.com/images/8string_body.jpg)
Hotlinked for your enjoyment.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Jan 2010, 11:11
I just want a goddamned 8-string.

8-strings take up most of my GAS nowadays.
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Post by: Akima on 29 Jan 2010, 16:37
Is an eight-string like an amp that goes up to eleven?
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Post by: sean on 29 Jan 2010, 16:44
no it is like an amp that somebody cut the electrical cord off of.

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Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Jan 2010, 00:47
AMPS AND GUITARS ARE DIFFERENT, SILLY
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jan 2010, 02:17
Guys the other day I played a Schecter Ultra III through an AC15 at the music shop downtown

/thread
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Jan 2010, 07:27
not really
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Jan 2010, 08:00
He does have a point, Patchy. While an AC15 is god amongst amps, the best Schecter is comparable to the tallest midget.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Jan 2010, 14:02
Shane you haven't played this thing, it's like what I imagine a Strat would be like if Strats weren't played out, kitchy pieces of shit
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Post by: glyphic on 31 Jan 2010, 09:07
That's what I play, Patrick. I fell in love with the damn thing instantly. The only bad thing about it is that it weighs like 20 pounds. That, and it's near impossible to change pickup settings while you're playing. Plus, it is totally pretty.
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Post by: Patrick on 31 Jan 2010, 12:31
The weight actually didn't bother me, and the switching was very similar to my Jag's. Only thing that bugged me was the sustain, actually. With all those Strat-like sounds, I was expecting it to sustain less. I guess it's not actually a bad thing, but damn, it threw me off.

I'm seriously considering buying one when I can afford it, though. It wouldn't be such an important thing that I'd get it before getting a car, but I will wind up owning one of these someday.
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Post by: I CAN DIVIDE BY ZERO on 31 Jan 2010, 16:55
Mine are nothing special, but what the heck, I'll post 'em anyway.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8472/guitarsc.jpg)

Yep. Two (fairly) standard acoustic guitars, though the one on the left has a pre-amp set-up and can plug into an amp, if that's of any significance.

P.S. Hi everybody! It's been a while.
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Feb 2010, 10:29
I remember one of you guys praising the T-60, so I present this:


EDIT: The craigslist posting was deleted. Must have sold.

Anyway, It was a T-60 with hard-shell case for $175. Looked to be in great shape.
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Post by: The Duke on 01 Feb 2010, 13:20
"This posting has been deleted by its author."
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Feb 2010, 13:22
It was there earlier today.

 :?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 Feb 2010, 18:19
Probably 'twas me.  I have a '79 T-60 that is approximately eighteen kinds of bad-mutha-fuckin-ass.    I want to buy more.
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Feb 2010, 18:43
You missed the boat, then. It looked like the sweetest deal.

Instead, I grabbed an archtop roller bridge off Guitar Fetish and I'm going to finally get going on my project Teisco.

In the near future, I am going to be trying to get this thing stageworthy.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Feb 2010, 01:40
Ah well, that's what I get for going on a trip.  Traveling instead of forum lurking.  Sounds like it was a good deal.
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Post by: Tehz on 07 Feb 2010, 16:57
Today, I acquired my first vintage piece (sorta), my first American-made guitar, and my first Gibson; a 1978 Gibson "The Paul", which I received in a trade with OSG member vigs. I no longer own a Jazzmaster or any other offsets for that matter, but oh my god I love this Paul so much it doesn't even matter to me right now.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/IMG_0592.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/kalnaar_khan/IMG_0596.jpg)

The neck is perfect, and it is literally the lightest Gibson I've ever played. I'd say the trade was definitely worth it. Also, there is a huge Hüsker Dü sticker on the back, which is a big plus in my book.
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Feb 2010, 17:04
Dude that is a titally awesome guitar you have there. Coincidentally I have a Fender Lead II, possibly one of the heaviest Fenders around.

Hey dicks--what is a good amount of time to let a soldering iron heat up for? I was trying it out on an old guitar's wiring and it didn't seem hot enough to use properly (i.e. the solder wasn't getting hot enough). It's a 30-watt iron that I bought from RadioShack.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 07 Feb 2010, 17:12
It should be hot enough after just a minute or two.  What kind of solder are you using?
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Feb 2010, 17:14
60/40 I think. It seemed to be the only kind that RS had.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2010, 08:50
The ass is up with the clusterfuck of control on that Paul?
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Post by: Tehz on 08 Feb 2010, 11:28
One of the knobs is missing (soon to be replaced) and I guess they just decided to throw the toggle switch down there also. I dunno, it doesn't bother me much. Less chance of hitting it while I play.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Feb 2010, 11:46
I know a guy who has almost the exact same Les Paul as you, dogg. That instrument is probably the only dual-humbucker solidbody I would really ever consider buying, ever.

Chris my Jag is like 90lbs heavier than your Lead II what are you talking about.

In other news, I got all my shit in the mail the other day. Post Office marked my amp's box "100LBS" even though it weighs 52.
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Post by: Christophe on 08 Feb 2010, 12:28
Ok so I wired in the new pickups into the Lead II this morning. I'm not sure how well done the wiring was (or if i had fried something) so hopefully any damage is minimal, the joints are solid, and I have a rockin' guitar when I restring it.
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Post by: Christophe on 09 Feb 2010, 12:41
UPDATE: The guitar sounds perfect and awesome w/ the new pickups, with one minor caveat.

I think I might have fried one of the switches. For those of you familiar with the Fender Lead II wiring found here (http://jfetdel.free.fr/lead/indexEn.html), the Lead II has two switches--one a normal pickup selector, and a two-way switch that changes the phase of the neck pickup. On one position the phase is normal and with both pups selected you get a normal two-pickup tone. Switch to the 2nd position and you get a nasal, out-of-phase sound.

The guitar sounds good in the out of phase position but when the phase is normal I get a crackly sound out of the neck pickup. What did I do wrong? Fry the switch? Bad soldering? Fuck a guy?

EDIT: I checked the wiring of the switch. I've drawn up what it's supposed to look like:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/phaseswitchschematic.png)

Now I think that the diagonal connections which essentially do the phase thing--those wires must have gotten fried, considering how badly brown and burnt they look. Will it solve the problem to re-do it with new wires or just get a new switch?

Also, Seymour Duncan lists a different way to do the phase reversal switch. (http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=phase_reversal_singlecoils)
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Feb 2010, 00:21
OK I am going to need the help of someone well-versed in guitar wiring (A Wet Helmet, that means you), stat.

I replaced the cross-wires of the phase switch but to no avail, the same thing happens. Sound in out-of-phase mode, no sound in normal mode. So I decide, "fuck it" and decide to remove the switch and just let the guitar function as a normal two-pickup switch guitar.

But guess what. The fucking neck pickup now produces no sound. Whatsoever! Looks like the neck pickup (RW/RP by the way) only works when put in the out-of-phase position. What the hell? Is it possible that the ground and hot wires got reversed? Or (heavens forbid) is the fucking neck pickup a dud?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 11 Feb 2010, 04:10
Aw fuck...  electrical questions before I've even had my coffee.   I'm not sure I'm ready for this.

Let's start with the basics.   A single coil pick up is an extremely simple circuit.  If it works one way, it'll work the other way.  I doubt the pickup is a dud.    My first guess (and I promise to come back and look at all the wiring diagrams later) is you cooked the phase switch which is why it was only working correctly one way.  When you tried to remove it from the circuit, you either wired it incorrectly or have a bad joint somewhere.

Any chance you can flip that scratchplate over and take a few pictures?
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Feb 2010, 08:25
Sure thing.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P2119925.jpg)

Here's the phase switch. White wire goes to the pickup selector switch, black wire to ground.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P2119922.jpg)

Here's the pickup selector switch. The wire on top comes from the bridge pickup, the bottom from the neck (previously it would have come from the white wire on the phase switch). Considering I now realize how these switches work (the actual mechanical way they are supposed to switch) I am now entertaining the fact that I may have cooked both switches.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P2119923.jpg)

Here's a side view of the switch.

Hopefully this sheds some light on things?
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Post by: glyphic on 11 Feb 2010, 11:32
Guys, you're killing me. I am getting ready to throw a new switch system on my crappy hollowbody and you're making me think that it's much harder than I thought.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 11 Feb 2010, 12:57
Considering I now realize how these switches work (the actual mechanical way they are supposed to switch) I am now entertaining the fact that I may have cooked both switches.


I guess the obvious question at this point is... Do you have a couple of switches laying around to troubleshoot with?   That bottom picture looks like the plastic melted a bit.  If that's what that shiny spot is, that's not usually a good sign.
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Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 11 Feb 2010, 17:51
The other day I bought, sight unseen, a Gould copy of an Ernie Ball bass from a mate for a mere £35.  I've lucked out massively here, because despite it being a Gould (which as far as I'm aware is a cheap-copy company like Squier or Encore...), it sounds NIIIIICE, it's been rewired recently, and needs very little work to make it a keeper - I need to find a chrome plate to screw in over the battery compartment in the back, tighten a slightly wobbly volume knob, and it should be good as new.  I'll get some pics up once I've cleaned it up a bit and put new strings on.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Feb 2010, 20:00
ok I think for now I ought to leave well enough alone. I re-wired the guitar as it would normally be and have to live with the two pickups being out of phase in middle mode. After trying some things out, the pickups should be okay, the phase switch should work, but it's still not doing things properly--but when I played it through an amp through the normal in-phase two-pickup mode I could hear the guitar playing, but really really faintly and not audible unless you were right next to the speaker. They are meant to be rw/rp--maybe they canceled out the noise frequency a bit too well?

Or maybe I just fried the switch.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Feb 2010, 09:17
(which as far as I'm aware is a cheap-copy company like Squier or Encore...)

For the last fucking time, SQUIER IS MAKING REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE GUITARS.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 12 Feb 2010, 09:29
I love my Squire Thinline.
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Feb 2010, 10:25
the guitarist in my band is getting a squier thinline repro, the natural mahogany finish one and switching the pickups out for something else. i'm pretty stoked.

Are you guys starting a "when Weezer were good" cover band?

God. Brian Bell used to give me such GAS for thinlines.
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Post by: Christophe on 12 Feb 2010, 13:13
OK, Phaseswitchgate update: Looks like the switch is indeed fuckered. After playing for a bit I realized that if I put the switch somewhat halfway, it functioned as it should; both pickups in phase. But put it all the way and no sound comes out.

Any way to fix the switch or should I just get a new one?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 Feb 2010, 13:23
Buy a new one.

And don't feel bad about it.  I have a strat about ten feet away from me right now that I burnt the switch in, and I've been soldering (though I must admit, not guitars) for 20 years. 

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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 Feb 2010, 14:23
SQUIER IS MAKING REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE GUITARS.

I've been thinking about buying a couple of 51's just to have a framework for doing crazy ass mods.
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Post by: spoon_of_grimbo on 12 Feb 2010, 16:06
(which as far as I'm aware is a cheap-copy company like Squier or Encore...)

For the last fucking time, SQUIER IS MAKING REALLY GOOD AFFORDABLE GUITARS.

what do you work for them or something!?  calm down!  i didn't totally trash them did i?  but on the evidence of the squier bass i own, they're nothing special.
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Post by: Spluff on 12 Feb 2010, 16:17
That makes me wonder just how poor their basses are.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Feb 2010, 22:26
Don't make me post that sound clip of my Squier that I made last year. I will pull that trigger SO FAST
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Feb 2010, 06:50
Does that mean that the jagmaster is actually a good guitar? I've never tried one out.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 13 Feb 2010, 08:27
afaik the Jagmaster is a pretty decent guitar for the price.
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Feb 2010, 16:43
I think my island of misfit guitars needs the company of one of them Dan Armstong Plexiglas re-issues.
Someone run out an' fetch me one. Get the little woman the bass model too. Hurry up now.
(http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/8da72b3c35e473dd37906c220d99eeb8.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Feb 2010, 03:14
It has a total of three strap buttons

Why does it have so many
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Feb 2010, 17:58
Because 11 is more than 10. Duh.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 15 Feb 2010, 18:29
It has a total of three strap buttons

Why does it have so many

My guess is so it can be converted into a lefty.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Feb 2010, 21:54
Wouldn't there need to be a button on the lower horn for that?

Hey Guitar Fucks, can someone explain GAS to me? I'm assuming it's an acronym of some kind?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Feb 2010, 22:52
Gear Acquisition Syndrome, it's a terrible disease.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 17 Feb 2010, 01:14
"Disease" is a word used for stuff like gonorrhea or chlamydia or AIDS or some shit. Feeding the purest vice I have? Call it what you want, mang, but it ain't no disease.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Feb 2010, 07:42
Well i'm pretty much broke because of it. I mean, even aids can't get you broke (break you up?).
Disease is probably the wrong word though.
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Post by: The Duke on 17 Feb 2010, 13:11
Hey Guitar Topic, I saw this list of novelty guitars (http://www.holytaco.com/25-awesome-guitars) and thought you might like to see it too!
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Post by: Nodaisho on 17 Feb 2010, 14:09
Oh god, the comment section. I need to borrow a Neutron bomb, be right back.

Who is the one with the mountain backdrop used by? I know I've seen it somewhere before.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 17 Feb 2010, 17:10
So this:

(http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/images/2009/12/glennbranca.jpg)

I've actually been thinking about building something along these lines only w/o  it actually being two guitar bodies.  I was thinking more like a chapman stick with pickups on both ends and maybe just frets five through seventeen or seven through nineteen (I haven't really started planning anything, just idly musing).    Without having actually built the damn thing and trying it, I'm imagining some sick-nasty drone rock being possible.   
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Feb 2010, 17:43
guitar centipede
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Post by: David_Dovey on 17 Feb 2010, 23:19
Quote
<12-neck strat>

oh come on

(also the dude in that guitarboat is Josh Pyke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwRqD4Kmiy4). Josh Pyke is cool!)
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Feb 2010, 03:54
I would totally be the guy to bring an assault rifle-shaped electric guitar through security at an airport

I am the worst kind of person
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Post by: Ballard on 18 Feb 2010, 06:35
God dammit guys Rick Nielsen isn't a novelty!
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Feb 2010, 15:51
His guitar kind of was.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 22 Feb 2010, 13:51
I don't know if anyone is particularly interested in making their own pickups, but if you are, Jason Lollar just put a re-print of his book up on his site today.   You can find it  here.  (http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=501)

If you are in the botique pickup winding biz, you probably already know that photocopies of this thing sell for $500 on ebay.  I was "lucky" (or not, depending on how you look at it) to get a used original from a collectible book dealer for $300 and some change about two years ago.    If I'm going to be honest in my review of it the winder itself wasn't particularly better (but neither was it worse... just different) than one I had built myself already, but the traverse mechanism was something I hadn't really figured out yet and the little tid-bits here and there that he just drops in are well worth the price of buying an original copy.

So... If you want to make your own pickups but don't know where to start, this is a good place.  Be aware, you have to be somewhat mechanically inclined to noodle out his concepts yourself.  It's not a "go to Lowe's and buy  this, go to True Value and buy this" kind of parts list.   You'll need some tools and the ability to improvise.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2010, 02:02
Speaking of pickups, any of you remember that beat-to-hell 2006 Squier Bullet of mine? The one that had the middle pickup blow out on me, and I fucked around with it and made it super ghetto-fabulous?

Well, two summers ago, I bought new guts for her, and tried to turn her into a Telecaster-in-Strat's-body. This went well except for the fact that the bridge pickup I bought for her was defective right out of the factory. Hella bullshit, right?

Well, having moved back to California recently, I've had access to all of my guitars, including the piece of shit PRS clone my step-uncle gave me after he'd very poorly assembled it from a kit. While the workmanship during the assembly process was absolute shit, the hardware managed to avoid being damaged. Meaning I have a set of humbuckers in pretty excellent condition, just waiting for me to play with.

I'm totally putting one in the bridge of my Squier as we speak. This guitar's a fucking rat rod Frankensteined piece of shit but she's gonna sound and play like a champion. I love her so very very very much :D
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Feb 2010, 03:21
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs199.snc3/20631_1252124416908_1043430031_30613615_1034050_n.jpg)

OHHHHHH FUUUUUCK
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Feb 2010, 03:54
IT'S FUCKIN' FRANKENTAR
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Feb 2010, 05:08
Now that's a proper crackwhore.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 09:07
YES, PATRICK.


(upside down jack?)
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Post by: Cernunnos on 25 Feb 2010, 09:37
No, inside out.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 09:44
Oh shit! Weird. And awesome.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 25 Feb 2010, 11:35
(http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/images/godwin2/godwin21.jpg)
(http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/images/godwin2/godwin22.jpg)
A guitar that is also an organ


http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/sold/godwin2.htm
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2010, 11:56
From what I've read about those, they sounded like ass and weighed as much as a redwood tree.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2010, 14:54
IT'S FUCKIN' FRANKENTAR
Now that's a proper crackwhore.

Thanks you guys. I love her so very much. Her name is Bitch.

GUYS GUYS GUYS that same site that Emilio found that guitar on also has a 1976 Fender Starcaster (http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/fenderstarcaster.htm) for sale

Hooooooly fuck
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Feb 2010, 15:20
Sweet dang, six thousand is way overpriced no matter how awesome starcasters are.
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Post by: Christophe on 25 Feb 2010, 22:25
So remember that stupid neck pickup I installed on my Lead II that wasn't working properly?

Guess what. It doesn't fucking work in phase. There was nothing wrong with the fucking switches, it was the g.d. pickup that was the problem.

I promptly removed it from the guitar and replaced it with the original. Well, that's that.
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Post by: glyphic on 01 Mar 2010, 06:45
That picture makes me furious.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 01 Mar 2010, 07:07
That picture makes me furious.

Seriously. I think the only guy allowed to play a 2 string bass is the dude from the JAMC.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Mar 2010, 08:04
Still better than those nine-string basses though.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 08:52
My friend offered me his old MusicMan head for $200 yesterday. It sounded rad as fuck, and I'm really debating it, but I need to do a little more research.

Edit: In a tiny house, do I REALLY need a 130 watt head?
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Post by: imapiratearg on 01 Mar 2010, 09:16
Uh, yeah.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 09:18
It DOES have a master volume. And a "low" selection on the power switch.

Hmmmmn.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 01 Mar 2010, 09:24
There ya go!
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 09:26
See also: My dad lives in the middle of nowhere and drums. I could keep it at his place, crank that bitch, and jam out on some Grand Funk Railroad covers with him.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Mar 2010, 11:12
Plus it has a bass channel.

I will. I just need to get my tax returns, yknow..so I HAVE $200 in disposable income.

And then someday get a 2x12 cab.

edit: This, btw, is what we're talking about.

(http://www.brettallenstudiorental.com/Amps/121601pics/MusicManHD120_16.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2010, 16:18
Shitting fuck, Shane, if I knew the guy I'd ask him to hold it aside for me, it won't be too long before I am out of debt and I could afford it

Also now that I've seen pics my "OH MY GOD DO IT" from our conversation earlier still stands

Edit: Hey guys I wrote a song on the guitar (http://www.box.net/shared/p6cfv53nn1) and I kinda like it 'cept I'm playing sloppy as everliving shit but you know whatever
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Mar 2010, 09:01
That's not the exact one, Sam. Same model, but the corners on my friends' are just a little rustier. Otherwise it's in great shape.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Mar 2010, 04:30
(http://.)
A guitar that is also an organ
http://www.grouseguitars.com.au/sold/godwin2.htm
Needs obligatory WANGCASTER IMG.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Mar 2010, 12:34
I just realized something very important about that head. Ted Motherfucking Leo plays a Music Man amp. Do I want to sound like Ted Motherfucking Leo?


obviously very yes.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Mar 2010, 00:12
Guys I wanted to play my guitar through the church's ooooooold motherfuckin' Leslie (you motherfuckin' heard me they have got a VINTAGE MOTHERFUCK LESLIE) but I didn't get to because they didn't know how any of that stuff was connected to the organ, I was so bummedddddd

I mean seriously it can't be that hard, just plug your shit in with a 1/4" from your line out and you are good to rock some "Little Wing" like it ain't even a fuckin' thing, that is exactly what I was aiming at

I'm going to figure that motherfucker out tomorrow morning before rehearsal even starts
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Post by: edwinalink on 06 Mar 2010, 04:02
how bad of an Idea is it to buy this guitar?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R1puHTwFoU

the Schecter C-7 Blackjack ATX

should beginner's start with a guitar like that?

I still haven't replaced my POS B.C.Rich...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 06 Mar 2010, 04:13
Not a big schecter fan myself, but i don't see why not. seven-strings are fun! TOM style bridge is also a plus, but i've never used blackouts myself so I don't have a clue how they sound, apart from heavy.

edit: It depends on what you want to play i guess, but it seems pretty good for metal.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Mar 2010, 07:26
I know a guy who plays a 6 string blackjack. It feels like it's built pretty well, but I really hate the tone he gets out of it.
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Post by: glyphic on 08 Mar 2010, 10:11
Might not be the guitar, though. Your friend may just like shitty tone.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Mar 2010, 10:49
I don't think i've ever played a guitar without at least getting some decent tone out of it*. I'd say you have a faulty friend there, rather than guitar.

*and i've played fucking east-german guitars.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Mar 2010, 11:11
Were they made of cotton, like Trabants?
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 08 Mar 2010, 14:49
I don't think i've ever played a guitar without at least getting some decent tone out of it*. I'd say you have a faulty friend there, rather than guitar.

*and i've played fucking east-german guitars.

He does play it out of a digital marshall amp through a dimebag darryl signature distortion, so that may have something to do with it too. It's a decent metal tone but I like a little more versatility out of my guit-fiddles.
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Mar 2010, 18:21
You could play a Firebird V through a Marshall MG and it would still sound like shit, and that's not even taking into account the dimebag pedal.
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Mar 2010, 00:47
My problem is I dont know what I want. and I've been guitar shopping for nearly a year.

I'm thinking that 7-string may be a little stupid for me at the moment...

but Schecter seems to be one of the few companies to make Lefties for damn near everything in their line up. and not upcharge for them....

urgh...
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Post by: Bearer on 09 Mar 2010, 05:15
This:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0991.jpg)
into one of these:
(http://www.j-guitar.com/sp/sea/data/1145/r/0312_1.jpg)
(modded with a celestion g10s-50 10" speaker replacement)

This is win, this amp sometimes makes this guitar sound better than my Fender Twin Reverb.  WHAAA?!
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Post by: glyphic on 09 Mar 2010, 10:41
Ever since you first posted a picture of that guitar, I've been lusting after it. The want is strong with this one.
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Mar 2010, 10:53
You could play a Firebird V through a Marshall MG and it would still sound like shit, and that's not even taking into account the dimebag pedal.

urg, I can never get enough top-end out of my MG15CDR. I do love that it has spring reverb though. My next amp is going to be a Vox of some sort.
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Post by: Lummer on 09 Mar 2010, 15:45
My problem is I dont know what I want. and I've been guitar shopping for nearly a year.

I'm thinking that 7-string may be a little stupid for me at the moment...

but Schecter seems to be one of the few companies to make Lefties for damn near everything in their line up. and not upcharge for them....

urgh...

Well, if you feel like it, go for the 7!
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Mar 2010, 15:54
I've had an insane desire for a flying V here lately.
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Post by: Patrick on 09 Mar 2010, 17:56
I'm thinking of going back up to Richmond's Guitar Center, where I recently played an ash Tele through a Hot Rod DeVille. I am thinking of trading my Jag for the combination of those two.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Mar 2010, 05:32
I've had an insane desire for a flying V here lately.

It would go well with your retroey look.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Mar 2010, 06:46
The twenty minutes that I had a Hot Rod Deville, I loved it. The sound was fat and awesome.

Plus, it has switches for GAIN and MORE GAIN
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Post by: imapiratearg on 10 Mar 2010, 08:49
The two years I've had my Hot Rod Deville, I've loved the shit out of it.

But I wouldn't trade a Jag for it.  I'd also get the Blues Deville, with the upgraded speakers.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Mar 2010, 09:07
I detailed it further a long time ago, but UPS destroyed my Hot Rod.

Luckily, I found a sweet deal on a Sovtek Mig-50 with an Ampeg V-4 4x12 cab. I love it. So much bottom end, but the highs are clear as a bell.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 10 Mar 2010, 09:24
If I lived in the country I would so buy a Mig-50 or Mig-100. They are basically my dream amp.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Mar 2010, 12:13
Which country? Russia?
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Post by: Melodic on 10 Mar 2010, 17:18
In Soviet Russia, amp buys you!
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Mar 2010, 16:42
ok guitar bitches. For my choices of backline at the National Underground in the NEW York (not the old one) I have:
Fender Deluxe & Peavey Delta Blues
Thoughts?
Well muthafuckaz we are playing there in March and May, I guess I could try one, and then the other the next time.

Of course I'm playing a Parker so I could fucking play both (stereo) with my little ground lifty box.

Look out for my pen15. It is almost as big as my ego. Almost.
/drinking
 
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Mar 2010, 19:32
If I lived in the country I would so buy a Mig-50 or Mig-100. They are basically my dream amp.

I'd buy a MiG 21

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6581/mig2102.jpg)
The two years I've had my Hot Rod Deville, I've loved the shit out of it.

But I wouldn't trade a Jag for it.  I'd also get the Blues Deville, with the upgraded speakers.

A Jag and an ash Tele though? That's what I wanna trade for.
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Mar 2010, 06:41
Hey guys. I fell in love with the Deluxe Nashville Telecaster. I've been going to a local music shop every week for two months and playing it. Every time I go, I like it more.

Should I sell my Schecter Ultra III and get one?
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 12 Mar 2010, 06:48
Yes. A thousand times yes.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 12 Mar 2010, 08:34
Hahaha oh man do you really even have to ask
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Mar 2010, 08:47
Which begs the next question; anyone want to buy a used Schecter Ultra III? I'll give you a good deal!
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Mar 2010, 14:52
Guys (I apologize for my last nights' drunken enthusiastic outburst).
http://www.sonuus.com/products_g2m.html

$100 universal Guitar midi cupcake. (Mono, but still). Oh it's also a tuner.
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Mar 2010, 15:27
That's pretty dope. I kind of hate combination-tuner products, though. My first amp had a built-in tuner and it worked like shit.
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Mar 2010, 17:55
agreed. I have an RP100 that the tuner worked on for about 20 minutes. Wife uses the built in drum thing to play scales with. Otherwise, useless.
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Mar 2010, 10:14
ok guitar bitches. For my choices of backline at the National Underground in the NEW York (not the old one) I have:
Fender Deluxe & Peavey Delta Blues
Thoughts?
Well muthafuckaz we are playing there in March and May, I guess I could try one, and then the other the next time.

Of course I'm playing a Parker so I could fucking play both (stereo) with my little ground lifty box.

Look out for my pen15. It is almost as big as my ego. Almost.
/drinking
 

Shoot me an inbox message with the dates and locations of the shows. I'll come and see ya!
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Mar 2010, 16:00
Hey guitar thread, once I get this new job, I'm gonna save up and get a new geetar. I have even made a shortlist!

I am either getting a Squier Classic Vibe Custom Tele (which I will upgrade with AVRI '62 Tele pickups), or one of those fantastic new Epi Wilshires in aged red. Anyone have experience with the latter?
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Mar 2010, 05:31
Shoot me an inbox message with the dates and locations of the shows. I'll come and see ya!
PM'd ya and sent you email from illicitizen at gmail. Hope you can make it.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Mar 2010, 12:47
I found a fucking boss rundown of Mogwai's live setup. I can't blieve Stuart gets that tone out of a Dano pedal.
http://funksheet.blogspot.com/2010/02/mogwai-interviewgear-walkthrough.html
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Mar 2010, 13:12
Between this interview and his Twitter account, Stuart sounds like a bloody idiot.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Mar 2010, 14:53
A bloody idiot with great tone though.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2010, 15:52
So I just bought a Squire Bullet for twenty-five bucks, and taking a lead from Patrick I intend to gut the internals, buy decent pickups, and then abuse and mutilate it until it is barely capable of thought.
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Mar 2010, 20:18
I just looked up how much the blue Rickenbacker 4003 from FLCL would cost if i wanted it...

a real vintage one, is harder to find than the Ark of the Covenant...

but for an exact replica, from Rickenbacker's custom shop would be over 3 grand and take over 3 years to get...

yeah, don't think I'll be getting that anytime soon...

It's not like I'm an Otaku /Anime nut, I don't really care... its just... THAT THING IS SO DAMN SEXY.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2010, 21:07
DANG MAN YEAH THAT GUITAR

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2010/03/500x_spvw_teaser1sht_mar17_3.jpg)


not like i'm an otaku or anything tho
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Post by: IronOxide on 19 Mar 2010, 21:09
Man guys, I've been looking for an original sunburst LP like Elsa Bloodstone uses in nextwave that would be SICK.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/ironoxide887/NextWave01p16.jpg)

Like a real vintage original, it would be ill

Not that I'm an Otaku or anything
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Post by: IronOxide on 19 Mar 2010, 21:19
Hey guys, do you know where I could find Boy Blue's horn from Fables? I think that it would be awesome.

A real vintage one with real magic to make it sound extra awesome.

(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/ironoxide887/Fables008-20.jpg)

Not that I'm an Otaku or anything
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2010, 21:21
dang dude a real vintage horn like that probably be like three grand damn
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Mar 2010, 21:26
I like how there is More Troll in the average QC Forum Goer than there is in their Troll's...

and "Not Like I'm an Otaku Or anything" just became my Sig, YOUCANTHAVEITITSMINEBITCHES...

and I fuckin want that ricky.
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Post by: Chad K. on 20 Mar 2010, 19:20
Provided all goes well, I should be purchasing one of these tomorrow off of CL-

http://www.hagstromguitars.com/Viking.html

I love Vikings.  The dark tone, the thin neck, the style.  One of the coolest 335 style guitars IMO.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Mar 2010, 05:41
Wow Chad that looks purrrrty.
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Post by: Chad K. on 22 Mar 2010, 07:00
Thanks, Doombilly. Guitar was bought without a hitch and it's mint.  The woman who bought it just didn't really like playing semi-hollows.  I'm totally in love with it. 

A couple things I didn't expect- it doesn't have the same neck-dive issues I have with my Sheraton.  I had assumed with that headstock it would be constantly heading for the floor.  Also, the neck is really thin due to the "H" style truss rod.  It's not quite ibanez thin, but it's thinner than anything fender or gibson has on the market.  And yet, they went with jumbo fretwire.  It took a couple of hours of playing to get used to them, but after that, the frets made it a lot easier to find where I was without looking.

The only dissappointment, oddly, was the case.  Here's a picture of soe of them - http://www.hagstromguitars.com.au/775.0.html .  Though it says on the site that they are "vintage tan tolex," I for some reason took that to mean tweed.  It's actually tolex with an extremely poor photo of tweed over it, essentially faux tweed.  Plus, it's thin for a hardcase.  And, the handle is "pleather," not leather.  GC cranks out a tweed case through TKL for less than $100, I wonder why Hagstrom can't figure it out.  And I don't know if another case would fit thsi guitar, because it's a little oddly shaped. 

Ah well, all in all very happy.  If anyone has been wondering about their line, I'd say look into it.  They are really great guitars for the money.
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Mar 2010, 08:13
If I can sell the tele-parts caster I put together, I'm definitely getting one of these badass things (http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvqutopseho.html) and modding the shit out of it.  There's also the model with the humbuckers too.
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Post by: Chad K. on 22 Mar 2010, 08:55
Bearer- don't forgot to check their clearance section- http://store.guitarfetish.com/spclblblsa.html  From what I hear, their blems are pretty minimal.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Mar 2010, 16:10
Bearer I want one of these:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2098_14212811

Fucking Orange Guitar!

But I might be losing my job and living in an F250 down by the river. So maybe I should stock up on hobo food instead.
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Post by: glyphic on 23 Mar 2010, 13:27
Great guitar ad. Plus, I can't tell if the picture is really bad or if the cutaway really goes past the neck under the strings.


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1655162443.html
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Post by: Christophe on 23 Mar 2010, 13:29
Quote
plays like a wicked ass demon from hell on steriods that just got punched in the throat for fucking some dudes girlfriend in the ass.youll never find any guitar like it and will never want to let it go.it has just about ruint my life and killed me once or twice.it will be the worst fucking mistake of your life to buy this piece of shit but youll never want to put it down either.it wont even let me take a good picture so i can sell it.please dont let me die and buy this beast fuck thing right now.

umm
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Post by: Ballard on 23 Mar 2010, 13:39
Great guitar ad. Plus, I can't tell if the picture is really bad or if the cutaway really goes past the neck under the strings.


http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/1655162443.html

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5964/89246d1239033397img2583.jpg)

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Post by: valley_parade on 23 Mar 2010, 13:51
Ahhh, an Alvarez Scoop.

There's a bit about those in a book I have. The superdeep-ass carve was originally a mistake, but the carver told his boss it was to enhance sustain (how would that even work?) Then they sold them.
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Post by: Chad K. on 23 Mar 2010, 22:43
Actually the Dana scoop was created by Dana Sutcliffe, an independent who was contracted by Alvarez in the '80s to help compete with shredder brands like Kramer and Jackson.   Alvarez was originally Westone, which was originally Electra.  He not only purposely made that design, but he actually patented it.  He's also the "genius" behind the Alvarez Dana bass with a neck join that's offcenter of the body.  UGLY.

By the way, those Electras are killer guitars if you find one.  I had a LP copy that I loved.  They are one of the lesser know matsumoku brands, which is the same plant that made Univox, Aria and a ton of other brands. 
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 04:53
Explain the THREE PART HUMBUCKER.

EXPLAIN THAT, JEEZ.
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Post by: Chad K. on 24 Mar 2010, 09:46
Geez, Ballard.  I don't see what the big deal is- http://www.wolfgangguitars.com/Nigel%20-%20full.jpg
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Post by: glyphic on 24 Mar 2010, 12:15
That guitar has an exhaust system.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 16:00
I was being facetious.

The point: it's stupid
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 16:02
You realize that you just defended this guy (http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanilla-ice.jpg) by bringing up this guy (http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/images/dennis-rodman-hair.jpg)?
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Post by: Chad K. on 24 Mar 2010, 17:26
I was being facetious.

The point: it's stupid

You realize that you just defended this guy (http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanilla-ice.jpg) by bringing up this guy (http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/images/dennis-rodman-hair.jpg)?

It might not have been clear, but my post was meant to be sarcastic.

That said, that's a great analogy.  Rodman is ridiculous and bombastic in a knowing, tongue-in-cheek way ala the Tufnel guitar.  The Alvarez, like Vanilla Ice's career, was created without an appreciation for the inherent irony.  
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Post by: Christophe on 24 Mar 2010, 18:23
So in my spare time today I made this little handy Volume pot box out of a 500k pot from a disused Squier Strat and a Carvin AB box I didn't really have any use for as an AB box. The schematic looks something like so:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/volumepotboxschematic.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/?action=view&current=volumepotboxschematic.png)

It's pretty handy, and I only really have one gripe--putting the volume down all the way kills the sound when the pot is bypassed. Does that have to do with the fact that I'm only using an SPST (because that was the one that came with the old AB box) or that it's a 500k pot (my guitar has single coils)?
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Mar 2010, 21:02
Vanilla Ice's career created without an appreciation for the inherent irony.  

I dunno if I'd go that far..
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Mar 2010, 04:24
I think my Black Widow is a Matsumoku as well. I can't remember because of well old age makes me hey look a bunny outside my window.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Mar 2010, 06:55
You realize that you just defended this guy (http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vanilla-ice.jpg) by bringing up this guy (http://www.best-basketball-tips.com/images/dennis-rodman-hair.jpg)?

Dennis Rodman had a portrait of Bert from Sesame St dyed in the back of his hair, all of his sins are forgiven
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Post by: imapiratearg on 25 Mar 2010, 08:29
Okay I posted this in the wrong thread last night on accident, so I'm remedying that mistake right here:

Quote
So, uh guys.  I'm looking into investing in a PA setup this summer to kick-start actually getting a band together or just make my house more awesome to be at because at least I'll be able to have my friends' bands come play at my house.  I don't know what I'll need other than some kind of power amp, a couple of speakers and some cables.  I'm not worried about micing amps or drums, I just want to amp up some vocals in there.  Is there anything I'm forgetting?
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 26 Mar 2010, 19:10
You'll probably want a mixer too. Something with at least parametric EQ to be able to have some control of the sound coming out of your speakers.
There's actually a couple amplified mixers that aren't too shabby on this side of the pond, so perhaps you can find some cool stuff there.

Keep in mind that a PA that can overpower a loud drummer is pretty expensive. Ideally, even for a small bar, you'd want something in the thousands of Watts.
I'd recommend at the very least something with 200 Watts so you can hear a guy singing over the drums (as opposed to hear screaming).

That is, if you play with loud drummers (I sure have.). The guy I've been playing with for the past couple of years plays so low I can actually hear myself talk during rehearsals. Refreshing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Mar 2010, 19:48
They are one of the lesser know matsumoku brands, which is the same plant that made Univox, Aria and a ton of other brands. 

Yeah, my Aria Diamond was kinda rad. Too bad the neck joint was a little skeevy.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/16903675-089352bdc4bc84fd67fcf12999.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Mar 2010, 21:28
double post as not to post two pics in one post..but....

EPIPHOOOOOONE,

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/7/7/3/686773.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 06:29
Guys, I've bought a BC Rich Ironbird, and I fucking love it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2010, 06:46
We'll kinda miss you here at the guitar thread, but you did buy a BC Rich on your own accord.

It's nobody's fault but your own.
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 07:10
I'm in a death metal band, shouldn't that give me clearance?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 28 Mar 2010, 07:59
Well no cos you could've bought an ESP or an Ibanez or a fuckin' Jackson Dinky or something
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 08:27
But that's what everyone else is doing these days!

Besides, everyone and their mom was using BC Rich in the golden days of death metal (mid-90s), so I just figured I had to go get a mid 90's BC Rich. And so I did!
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2010, 09:04
There's a reason they're doing it, and a reason people in the 90s bought BC Riches:

Everyone in the 90s had horrid taste in everything.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Mar 2010, 11:49
I dunno, 70's bc riches are pretty cool. They probably sucked by the nineties though. So yeah, How does it play/sound/feel?
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Mar 2010, 12:15
There's a reason they're doing it, and a reason people in the 90s bought BC Riches:

Everyone in the 90s had horrid taste in everything.

Except the extreme metal underground. Those were the glory days!

I dunno, 70's bc riches are pretty cool. They probably sucked by the nineties though. So yeah, How does it play/sound/feel?

I put some strings on it, that are a tiny bit too thick for it to be like super-shreddy, but it plays and feels really, really nice. I had to do a lot of work on it though. Frets were green with corrosion, so I did a ghetto fret polish and got them shiny again. Setup was, as expected with a Floyd, a bit of a bitch, but now it is truly awesome! The electronics just need that last bit of love (new volume pot and output jack) and then it's all set to be my new main axe.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Mar 2010, 13:21
Pics?
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2010, 13:24
It's pointy and shaped like death.
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Post by: Spluff on 28 Mar 2010, 17:12
The higher end BC Riches are Good Guitars.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Mar 2010, 05:07
It's pointy and shaped like death.

Oh God they look like this

(http://www.bcrich.com/images/sm_ironbird_limited.jpg)

Laugh/cry
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Mar 2010, 05:09
Hey Lummer for all yr talk about 90s underground death metal it seems like the Ironbird was mostly favoured by leathery transvestites

(http://www.sol.co.uk/r/ronz/images/kiss/ironbird.gif)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Mar 2010, 07:35
\m/?
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Mar 2010, 20:56
"lol ur saying thom yorke used les pauls which justifies them but so did anal cunt lol"
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Mar 2010, 20:59
no?
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Post by: Christophe on 29 Mar 2010, 22:11
"lol ur saying thom yorke used les pauls which justifies them but so did anal cunt lol"
Anal Cunt--Guitarists Who Use BC Riches are Gay
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 29 Mar 2010, 22:30
"lol ur saying thom yorke used les pauls which justifies them but so did anal cunt lol"
Thom Yorke used Les Pauls?
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Post by: Christophe on 29 Mar 2010, 22:31
Anal Cunt--Body By Peavey
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Mar 2010, 23:33
Someone in a shitty band playing a questionable guitar is not enough to warrant discrediting that guitar permanently.

I hate the low-end crap that B.C. Rich shits out into Guitar Centers nationwide but it's undeniable that their high-end models are well-built, good sounding (if questionably spiky) guitars.
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Mar 2010, 23:55
I think mine is actually hella low-end, but for some reason that fucker just sounds right. The body looks a bit like it's made of plywood, but the neck is really, really nice and for some reason it sounds every inch the satanic death machine. I guess I just got lucky, because I paid more or less jack shit for it.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Mar 2010, 00:35
Honestly I just needed an excuse to post that picture because sweet fucking christ is Paul Stanley a horrifying looking motherfucker.

Like honestly I don't even care that much about the guitar so much as I care about how ugly Paul Stanley is
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2010, 02:51
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 30 Mar 2010, 03:28
It has the spirit of Chuck Shuldiner in it, he couldn't find a Stealth or a Mockingbird. Enshrine it among skulls, blown-out amps, and broken guitar strings, remove it only to rock the fuck out.
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2010, 04:01
I sure hope you're right.

Eitherway, this fucker is probably gonna be my new main guitar, unless I snag a USA BC Rich or something.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 30 Mar 2010, 04:32
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Unless... there is a ton of hype surrounding the guitar industry that makes people think a guitar has to be made out of 1000 year old tee pee frames cut from the center of now extinct species of trees and hand assembled by blue eyed, English speaking, virgin dwarfs to get great tone.


On a slightly less sarcastic note... The original Dano's were made from plywood.  Poplar at that (hardly considered a tone wood) if my memory serves correctly.  Depending on your definition of "plywood" I could point out a whole lot of other instruments that are too.  Not much is actually a solid slab of wood, anywhere.  And usually for good reason.   Also, ever since Chip Todd and Harland Peavey brought the concept of CNC machines into instrument making, the playing field has been somewhat leveled on what we would define as 'quality craftsmanship' in terms of your neck.  No longer do you need a skilled luthier/woodworker with spokeshaves to carve a great neck.  A CAD program and a CNC machine will get you any profile that you want and make it flawless.   Arguably the nicest guitar I own in terms of quality, craftsmanship, and overall fantastic everything is a Korean made instrument that you can pick up brand new for five or six hundred bucks.  I actually think it's considerably better than my PRS.

tl,dr; If you like how it plays, play it.  If you're not in the vintage/re-seller market names on headstocks and country of origin are largely irrelevant for anything made in the last 20ish years.
 
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2010, 04:36
My point exactly. I'm not even sure if I want to upgrade the pickups. They sound perfectly fine for what I'm going for. I am sort of considering slapping a newer, higher-quality floyd on it.
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Post by: edwinalink on 30 Mar 2010, 11:31
Whats scary is how well a Warlock actually sits on most peoples hands. its a meaty guitar, but it's actually got a useable body.

it still sucks and I want to kill it.... but... you'd think a body that stupid would be miserable. and it isn't!
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Mar 2010, 16:04
Yeah my parker body is one piece of mahogany, but that is about the least interesting feature. I agree if it does well by you then good-o. Fuck all that other dumb shit.

I would like to take this moment to commend SKB cases. My dumb ass slid my vintage F-250 seat back into one of the latches on my wife's bass case. I sent them an email and they sent me two latches, plenty of screws extra keys (TSA002). FREE. Not since Sperzel sent me free hardware for a part I lost on a tuner have I gotten that kind of customer service.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Apr 2010, 18:15
If only bc rich could do more of this:

http://rebelmusic.no/showExtraImages.do?articleId=1434139

The finish is eerily similar to my my own ltd, but it's all good
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Apr 2010, 05:58
Gold hardware = UN has designated this as a aesthetic war crime.
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Apr 2010, 10:09
my dano's a solid-body but it sounds gorgeous. fuck craftsmanship!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2010, 10:37
Well fuck me... I didn't know Danelectro even made guitars out of real wood.   Plywood, masonite, formica, sure.   But actual slabs of wood?  Learn something new everyday.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2010, 13:13
So I just came back from the store where I picked up for my son a Jackson Randy Rhoades "V" for his ninth birthday.

Now I have to hide it for a week and a half and not play it.  :(
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Apr 2010, 16:01
Hey, speaking of my Dano, I just swapped out my .10-.46s for some .13-.56 flat-wound chrome beauties. Holy shit I love this guitar.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 02 Apr 2010, 18:20
I need to get some 13s on my Epi. Those should be good for tuning down as far as drop-b, right?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 02 Apr 2010, 18:21
So I just came back from the store where I picked up for my son a Jackson Randy Rhoades "V" for his ninth birthday.

Now I have to hide it for a week and a half and not play it.  :(

you are the best father
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Post by: sean on 02 Apr 2010, 18:37
he is only the best father if he proceeds to teach his son minor threat songs.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 02 Apr 2010, 18:43
The thing about Minor Threat songs is that to play them right you have to play real-for-real barre chords.  I don't know if his hands are big enough on a full scale instrument.  He's been playing a little kids guitar for the last three years.   

Does it count that I've watched my daughter gig while she was wearing a Minor Threat shirt?  And that I got her into them?
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Post by: sean on 03 Apr 2010, 11:15
the fact that you realize yr sons hands are not big enough to play minor threat songs makes you the best father.
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Post by: Melodic on 03 Apr 2010, 11:48
shoulda passed on bigger genes
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Post by: The Duke on 03 Apr 2010, 12:22
Gold hardware = UN has designated this as a aesthetic war crime.

Really?  I think it looks cool on some guitars.
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Post by: Radical AC on 03 Apr 2010, 19:27
I agree.  Someday I would like a White Falcon.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 03 Apr 2010, 20:54
Guys, I made eight dollars busking downtown today!  Fuck yeah, go me!

('Cause it was two more dollars than we needed to buy weed and we did it in an hour and a half!)
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Apr 2010, 09:32
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Because Korea actually makes good guitars.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Apr 2010, 10:05
Korea is the new Japan, so we can only hope China will become the new Korea. Chinese guitars will probably get a massive price-increase though.
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Post by: Lummer on 05 Apr 2010, 04:23
Okay, I just found out that mine was an entry-level model, made in Korea out of fucking PLYWOOD. So...

Why the hell does it sound good? And why is the neck so nice? Guitar thread, this makes no sense.

Because Korea actually makes good guitars.

MAKES, nowadays, yes. But not in the early 90s. Not out of plywood.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Apr 2010, 04:34
So I've got a little extra money right now and the urge to help the economy by indulging my G.A.S.  (I tell myself it's the right thing to do).

What to buy?  I've been thinking about getting something totally shredtastic and metal-as-fuck as my collection tends to lean towards more traditional guitars, but I've also thought about getting  a Dan Armstrong or a Gretsch Duo-Jet.

On the other hand, though my house looks like a guitar graveyard already, an area that I am sorely lacking is amplification.  Due to a sell-off years ago, all I really play through is a little Vox combo amp, which is wholly inadequate for gigging.  Perhaps it's time for a head and a half cab again and that might motivate me to play for someone other than my dogs.

I'm open to suggestions.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 08 Apr 2010, 06:34
Buy the biggest box you can find that says "orange" on it.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Apr 2010, 07:17
I must confess... I was looking at the Orange website this morning.  It's a definite thought.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2010, 10:16
ORANGE!
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Apr 2010, 15:35
Buy the biggest box you can find that says "orange" on it.
obey
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Post by: Rizzo on 08 Apr 2010, 18:18
Or get a Tiny Terror. I've heard nothing bad about them. Then all you need is a decent cab.
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Post by: Bearer on 08 Apr 2010, 20:43
Or a Vox Night Train.  I have heard equally no bad things about them.
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Post by: glyphic on 09 Apr 2010, 06:33
You should get a Peavey. They name their speakers things like "Black Widow." How could you go wrong?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 09 Apr 2010, 06:48
I was kinda hoping to give  Bolt  (http://boltamps.com/pages/video.html) amps a try, but after a (very) little research they don't seem to be ready for the general public yet.     Too bad for them.
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Post by: Bearer on 09 Apr 2010, 07:35
http://www.jcacircuits.com/ (http://www.jcacircuits.com/)

I know the guy who makes these.  He's a real mad scientist, and absolutely knows his stuff.  I can't even begin to describe how perfect his amps are.  If you can (and it's definitely a real stretch cause I think he makes them to order), definitely try out his golden ratio.  Fucking mind-blowing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Apr 2010, 14:48
I was kinda hoping to give  Bolt  (http://boltamps.com/pages/video.html) amps a try, but after a (very) little research they don't seem to be ready for the general public yet.     Too bad for them.

Or yknow...get a used Sunn.
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Apr 2010, 22:31
Works for those Sunn 0))) fellows.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Apr 2010, 23:13
Sunn should really look into giving away a black hooded cloak with every half-stack they sell. Instant sales boom!

(http://www.purepoponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/sun.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Apr 2010, 23:47
They haven't actually made Sunn amps since Fender bought them out in the 90s. =/
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Apr 2010, 23:57
Is there an up to date tally of how many brands Fender has bought out and discontinued?
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Apr 2010, 00:06
There was, but fender bought the website and stopped maintaining it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2010, 00:28
Is there an up to date tally of how many brands Fender has bought out and discontinued?

Are we counting how they moved Guild's electric line first to Dearmond, then Squier, and then discontinued it?
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Apr 2010, 01:59
Huh, I always thought that it was the other way around.

Was the Starfire was a Guild model turned DeArmond or a DeArmond model turned Guild?
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2010, 05:20
The Starfire was Guild first. Guild reissued them I think riiiiight after Fender bought them, and Dearmond was used as a budget line for Guild for a few years.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Apr 2010, 09:21
That's dumb. I've seen and played quite a few DeArmonds and they're really fucking solid guitars. Beautiful, too.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2010, 13:52
Yeah, everything I've heard about the Dearmond models was extremely positive.

I played that Ibanez AMF73 (http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/8/1/0/644810.jpg) today through a Vox AC4TV.

I need both of those. It sounded perfect together. And the ceramic humbuckers weren't as overly powerful as I'd imagined.
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Post by: Christophe on 10 Apr 2010, 15:11
Hey guys I got a Behringer Digital Delay pedals

TL;DR I came buckets
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 10 Apr 2010, 15:43
Alright, so the results of days of shopping:

I went to Guitar Center as well as two locally owned music stores and played about 15 different heads through about ten different cabs.   Bar none my absolute favorite was the Egnater Tourmaster 4100 head through an Egnater 4x12 cabinet.   I probably would have bought this rig exactly except that about halfway through my shopping I decided to buy my kid a Fender American Deluxe Jazz Bass. And I just bought another one of my kids a Jackson for his birthday that I haven't even given him yet.  Consequently, I decided that if I could find something I was happy with that was cheaper, I was going to go with that.

 Tried both the Orange  tiny terror and the Vox heads.   Both awesome, but I really wanted something bigger.  I also wanted to have matched head and speaker and couldn't do that locally.   I tried a couple of solid states and hybrids like the new Line 6 head with all the UV lights, but really felt like I wanted  pure tubes.  I've already got a modeling amp, I've got a digitech modeling station, I even have a VG strat for fuck sake, so I wanted to go natural.  Tried a couple of Marshall configurations.  Tried a Crate Blue Voodoo and gave that one some serious consideration.  Basically I plugged into everything I could.  Even took a couple of my own guitars in for the 'final showdown.'

Given my odd predilection towards certain guitar brands, it probably isn't too surprising that I did end up going with a Peavey configuration.  No vypyr or anything silly, just a very basic ValveKing VK100 and 4x12 cab.  It really did end up being my second favorite and the fact that the two together was pretty cheap turned out to not be a bad thing either.   A nice clean channel that I can put a little dirt into if I want, and a lead channel that gives me all the gain that I want.   Nice and versatile, good sound, loud as a freight train.  I'm pretty happy.

TL,DR; Fender American Deluxe Jazz Bass and a Peavey VK100 and 4x12 cab.
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Apr 2010, 18:03
Or get a Tiny Terror. I've heard nothing bad about them. Then all you need is a decent cab.
heh, remember when I got my Tiny Terror and QC board helped me choose between open and closed back Avatar cabinets. <sigh> good times.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Apr 2010, 17:25
Also Guitar Thread. Um, don't mind my BONER.
http://www.kauerguitars.com/instruments/daylighter/daylighter-express
Unless, you are into that kind of thing.
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Post by: Tehz on 18 Apr 2010, 12:45
My lord that's fucking gorgeous. Sounds pretty nice, too.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Apr 2010, 14:54
This, on the other hand:
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w281/mortenpmb/DSC01438.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Apr 2010, 17:59
I'd have one in the Korina (V that is. Or one of them Kauer Daylighter Expresses, or both. Methinks BOTH. Yes)
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 18 Apr 2010, 18:54
I have something real similar to the white Les Paul JR in the background on the floor, only mine is a doublecut.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Apr 2010, 02:52
So I guess I am the only one who thinks a carved-top Jazzmaster clone is A Mistake
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Apr 2010, 21:18
A+++ would jizz on that bass
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Apr 2010, 05:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6r2-vkQT7E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6r2-vkQT7E)

The 1959 Les Paul Replica build by preeb over at TDPRI (http://www.tdpri.com) is finished!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Apr 2010, 07:41
Ah man that build was great. I've been following it closely since it started
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Post by: doombilly on 01 May 2010, 05:31
Sold my mostly working Fender Twin Reverb last night for $375. Woo. Needed cash. Went to a good home. Only 1000 amps left in the tuba nook. :)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 01 May 2010, 08:27
I went online yesterday to find some parts to fix the old P-bass and ended up buying two more guitars.    Not quite sure how to tell the wife.
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Post by: doombilly on 02 May 2010, 09:20
haha, my wife had me at Guitar Center after closing last night, trading two old cabinets for the last Ampeg 8x10 they had.
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Post by: Lummer on 03 May 2010, 02:04
I recently traded in my Flying V, for a pretty sweet BC Rich gunslinger. Pics will follow soon.
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Post by: doombilly on 03 May 2010, 13:25
I'ma have a Flying V one day. Just because...funny shaped guitars. What's not to like?
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/S9yU1QjNVJI/AAAAAAAAQ9M/FTYwe8bKmog/s400/DSCF1917-15.jpg)

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Post by: Ballard on 04 May 2010, 11:33
Sold my mostly working Fender Twin Reverb last night for $375. Woo. Needed cash. Went to a good home. Only 1000 amps left in the tuba nook. :)

What the hell ass why?
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 May 2010, 07:21
My tax return just came in. Do I mash buy on that Mosrite fuzz clone I've been gassing for?
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Post by: doombilly on 08 May 2010, 07:50
Sold my mostly working Fender Twin Reverb last night for $375. Woo. Needed cash. Went to a good home. Only 1000 amps left in the tuba nook. :)

What the hell ass why?
1) Needed money.
2) It didn't work completely.
3) I have many amps.
4) I've not played it in years.
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Post by: Ballard on 08 May 2010, 10:20
It's a $1400 amp you monkey-brained fool.

I'd have bought it from you for more than that, shit.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 May 2010, 06:37
I was not having any messing around with shipping etc... Also I paid very little for it. I know it was a low price to pay. But I never have had luck selling anything for what approaches real value. 
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 May 2010, 13:54
So guitar-thread, do any of you have any experience with the rg-7321? I have the chance to get one cheaply and i was wondering if it is okay for the price.
I've been gassing for a cheap 7 for a while.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 May 2010, 16:37
Paging Lummer to this thread.

Lummer. To this thread.
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Post by: Lummer on 11 May 2010, 00:07
So guitar-thread, do any of you have any experience with the rg-7321? I have the chance to get one cheaply and i was wondering if it is okay for the price.
I've been gassing for a cheap 7 for a while.

I've had two of them over the years, and I still have my second one. It's a really good basic guitar, if you get a decent specimen. I've heard of some pretty terrible turkeys among them, but these days it's fine. If you can snag one of the older MIK ones, you're good.

A good trick with them is, to sand the back of the neck lightly with the rough side of a kitchen sponge. That will give you something closer to the feel of a prestige neck.

I say go for it! If it's cheap, you can also factor in a pickup change.
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Post by: glyphic on 11 May 2010, 06:23
Local shop has one of these:
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sjm75tstopna1.jpg)

Priced at $175. It includes a tweed hardshell. It took so much effort not to buy it.

Determining factors were the fact that it is an SX guitar and has P-90 clones that sound dark. That body shape turns me on, though.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 11 May 2010, 06:47
So guitar-thread, do any of you have any experience with the rg-7321? I have the chance to get one cheaply and i was wondering if it is okay for the price.
I've been gassing for a cheap 7 for a while.

I've had two of them over the years, and I still have my second one. It's a really good basic guitar, if you get a decent specimen. I've heard of some pretty terrible turkeys among them, but these days it's fine. If you can snag one of the older MIK ones, you're good.

A good trick with them is, to sand the back of the neck lightly with the rough side of a kitchen sponge. That will give you something closer to the feel of a prestige neck.

I say go for it! If it's cheap, you can also factor in a pickup change.

I can get one with an emg at the bridge for 2000 kroner. That's like 120$ right? I've got the stock emgs in my EC and I really do like them. Is 120$ a good deal?

Glyphic, i've always loved those SX jazzbastards. They're like insanely cheap too. How did the neck feel?
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Post by: glyphic on 11 May 2010, 07:13
It felt fine. Nothing special.

I guess it felt exactly how a $175 guitar's neck should.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 11 May 2010, 19:25
Local shop has one of these:
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sjm75tstopna1.jpg)

Priced at $175. It includes a tweed hardshell. It took so much effort not to buy it.

Determining factors were the fact that it is an SX guitar and has P-90 clones that sound dark. That body shape turns me on, though.
The other guitarist in my band has that in light blue, the pickups squeal like a motherfucker but it sounds great in the middle position.
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Post by: sean on 11 May 2010, 19:47
swap the pickups out?
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Post by: Ballard on 11 May 2010, 22:55
swap the pots out and re-wire everything

FYP
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2010, 00:23
So last summer some kids decided by guitar looked like good target practice and broke a few tuning keys off.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Grover-Trophy-102-Rotomatics-3PerSide-Guitar-Tuning-Keys?sku=361000

These seem like the best replacements imo but what do y'all think?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 May 2010, 03:21
These are my favorites right  here  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/spstlotu3x3c.html).    If you've really got your heart set on grovers,  then...  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/fusigrch3x3t.html)
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Post by: glyphic on 12 May 2010, 06:29
Wait. Some kids shot your guitar with firearms? And they broke tuning keys off? WITH BULLETS?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2010, 07:12
Nu nu nu, they hit it with a soccer ball. Twice. I was pretty piffled.

These are my favorites right  here  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/spstlotu3x3c.html).    If you've really got your heart set on grovers,  then...  (http://store.guitarfetish.com/fusigrch3x3t.html)

Those first ones wouldn't fit my guitar - the holes are only 8mm, I made sure to check first. I'm going to see what they say about returning them (the Grovers, that is) in case they don't fit - I don't want to order machine heads that don't fit and then find out I'm stuck with them!

Thanks, though!
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Post by: glyphic on 12 May 2010, 09:03
I am still baffled by your story.

I have always like Imperial style tuners, though.
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Post by: doombilly on 12 May 2010, 14:18
So last summer some kids decided by guitar looked like good target practice and broke a few tuning keys off.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product/Grover-Trophy-102-Rotomatics-3PerSide-Guitar-Tuning-Keys?sku=361000

These seem like the best replacements imo but what do y'all think?

http://www.sperzel.com/

don't fuck around.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 12 May 2010, 17:58
I don't know if that's quite what I'm looking for, though. I tend to use a *lot* of alternate tunings include some really floppy string fret buzz ones, and reading through this doesn't seem to quite match up to what I want. Nice heads though.

Edit: Actually the more I think about it those would be exactly what I'd want for an electric, but I'm not fixing up an electric, so. . .

I am still baffled by your story.

I have always like Imperial style tuners, though.

Okay. Last summer, some of my relatives from England came over to New York, and we figured since they're here we should have a family reunion. I brought my guitar, and I don't remember the specifics but the headstock was hit with a soccer ball a couple times which broke the tuning keys off. Does that explain it? I then went home and took all of them off and put the guitar into storage.
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Post by: Lummer on 13 May 2010, 17:45

I can get one with an emg at the bridge for 2000 kroner. That's like 120$ right? I've got the stock emgs in my EC and I really do like them. Is 120$ a good deal?


Incidentally I live in Kroner-land too, so yeah, that would be a very good deal. Go go go!

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 May 2010, 13:40
Sweet. I'll have to wait it out a bit though, since I just bought a bunch of hardware and electronics from Guitarfetish for my el cheapo kelly-clone. Making an insert to fit a floyd-route from mahogany is hard work!
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 May 2010, 16:38
Local shop has one of these:
(http://www.rondomusic.com/photos/electric/sjm75tstopna1.jpg)

Priced at $175. It includes a tweed hardshell. It took so much effort not to buy it.

Determining factors were the fact that it is an SX guitar and has P-90 clones that sound dark. That body shape turns me on, though.

Rondo has some great stuff for people like me that would love to mod the shit out of something. Unfortunately living in the UK, there is no guarantee that I'll ever get the guitar. If it arrives to me damaged, or not at all, then no refund or anything. Which is a shame because the guitars similar to this on Rondo (at $130US) is just under £90. And over here, £90 hardly gets you anything nearly as good (for the money) as one of those.

I have a Strat which I love, but its about time I got something else. Would love a Jaguar but also would want something like the VRS 100, something with humbuckers and a really good bridge for dive bombs etc.
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 May 2010, 11:46
I want to build a Purple Quilt-top Warmoth Iceman with Bare Knuckle nailbombs...

I CAN HAZ 2 GRANDZ PLZ THNX!?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 May 2010, 22:56
Get a Ran custom instead. They can make it a neck-through.
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Post by: glyphic on 20 May 2010, 06:14
Is there really any reason to have neck-through construction? My Schecter is neck-through, but I don't really notice much in the way of benefit. Seems like the biggest difference is if the neck warps, I have to get a new guitar.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 21 May 2010, 01:58
Honestly i think neck-through is overrated, i'd just as much have an AANJ bolt-on. Both are equally as comfortable really. I can't stand most set-neck joints though, like on my main.

5-7 piece maple-walnut/ebony neckthroughs in natural are pretty damned sexy though. YMMV
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Post by: doombilly on 21 May 2010, 05:02
I think I notice the neck thru on my wife's carvin bass over her standard precision bolty.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 21 May 2010, 08:49
You're talking about a carvin versus a fender here though. Which models?
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Post by: edwinalink on 21 May 2010, 14:51
oooooh.... Ran makes a lovely guitar... looks like they cost  an arm and a leg!

Honestly I don't really have any huge preferences on Neck joints.

But where I'm at right now with my Warmoth planning. I'll have a purple left handed iceman hardtail with one pickup and a single combined Tone/Volume knob.

Ain't no one else on gods green earth gonna want that guitar.  :mrgreen:

to make matters worse... I'm gonna hand paint it with something like this...

(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9085/moth2.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/i/moth2.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

that is, unless I can find a way to stick that image under Lacquer...

Are your eyes bleeding yet?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 21 May 2010, 20:12
why
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 May 2010, 13:25
why not, besides the fact that it's pretty um, over the top? It's not your guitar, you don't need to look at it.

What kind of neck is going on it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 24 May 2010, 02:16
well. if its a warmoth neck...
it will have an ebony Fretboard, and stainless steel 6105 Frets... if its unfinished the wood would be Wenge, finished mahogony (no real smart reason for that, wenge is just freakin pretty) as for headstocks I'm still thinking...

though honestly, I'm thinking of buying a lefty mexican tele, and gutting it onto that Warmoth iceman body, adding a nice Humbucker, custom pickguard and the HB tele Bridge...

and then totally rip this guy off...

(http://www.hembryguitars.com/guitar%20web%20stuff/whiteIce/wi%20(1).jpg)

I mean, mexitele's are like 500 bucks. a decent Warmoth neck alone gets up to that price!
why

^EXACTLY.

If my posts have taught the people of this forum nothing else. its that I am a pretty big tool.

I feel my guitar should reflect that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 24 May 2010, 15:46
You're talking about a carvin versus a fender here though. Which models?
Any of her P basses. Am Std, Hwy 1, or ye olde Franken P (60's-70's).

vs
the first LB70P or the new LB70P (I think that's the model). Somewhat apples n guavas. But Fender don't make a neck thru.
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Post by: Pogotross on 24 May 2010, 23:55

to make matters worse... I'm gonna hand paint it with something like this...


Have you thought about trying wood burning/pyrography/whatever for it? I think it could turn out really interesting that way, especially with a purple stain afterward (if that works with wood burnings, I have no idea.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 25 May 2010, 00:02
OK so that IceCaster is very pretty
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 25 May 2010, 04:37
yeah, that thing is making me consider throwing out my Gothbeyondgoth Idea...

and doing a bright (but not pale) blue body, with a Tele style headstock.

why he cloned the Iceman 3+3 is beyond me. I think that's the uglier of two ugly headstocks.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 May 2010, 19:30
So I just bought a Squire Bullet for twenty-five bucks, and taking a lead from Patrick I intend to gut the internals, buy decent pickups, and then abuse and mutilate it until it is barely capable of thought.

This is the only good idea that has ever occurred to anybody in the history of the entire universe.
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Post by: glyphic on 27 May 2010, 06:26
Similar story to my last relationship
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Post by: Melodic on 27 May 2010, 10:41
So, I've finally got some dollars and cents to start working on that Strat clone. Thinking about Seymour-Duncan hot rails (x3?) and a few cans of yellow spraypaint. Don't think I'll bother replacing the fretboard or pickguard, although they both need it: it's never going go be a fun guitar to play, so I don't think I'll sink the extra money into that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 May 2010, 14:12
never going go be a fun guitar to play

Then honestly, why bother? Why don't you use the money on a guitar that you('ll) like?
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Post by: The Duke on 27 May 2010, 15:36
Or, even better, on buying me a guitar that I will like?

*cough*(Fender Telecaster, wood finish)*cough* what?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 28 May 2010, 11:09
never going go be a fun guitar to play

Then honestly, why bother? Why don't you use the money on a guitar that you('ll) like?

dogg that is like asking why people build monster trucks
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 May 2010, 14:15
Why do people build monster trucks what what
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Jun 2010, 14:10
Ok guitar thread, I need some guidance.  I have one of these:
(http://www.hartnollguitars.co.uk/products/Guitars/3604/3604-181020.jpg)

I want to replace the pickguard, becuase I don't particularly like the red tortoise shell over the sunburst.  I'm thinking either white pearloid (http://www.allparts.com/White-Pearloid-Humbucking-Telecaster-Pickguard-p/pg-9562-055.htm) or just plain white (http://www.allparts.com/White-Humbucking-Telecaster-Pickguard-p/pg-9562-035.htm).  Thoughts on which one I should go with?
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Post by: The Duke on 01 Jun 2010, 15:45
This is what they would look like (Photoshopped on by myself, as evidenced by their amateur quality) with each.  (Click on the thumbnail for full-size)

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard4.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard4.jpg)

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard5.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard5.jpg)

I lean toward the plain white of the two, but just solid black might be kind of cool as well.  Give me a few minutes to see how that would look...

Edit: here it is.

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard6.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard6.jpg)

I would go with the white or black, I can't decide which of those two I like better.  I don't particularly like the white pearloid, but it's up to you.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Jun 2010, 19:49
Just Plain White I suppose but I can't really see why you wouldn't leave the tort considering tortoiseshell is the greatest
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Post by: Bearer on 01 Jun 2010, 22:20
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-50206111187217_2106_2499420) (http://store.guitarfetish.com/cunehupifort1.htm)
Black pearl possibly?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cire27 on 01 Jun 2010, 22:41
I'd just leave it off.
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 02 Jun 2010, 12:37
Aged white or vintage mint green. I have black on my sunburst tele, but aged white would be nice too. If you haven't drooled over these yet, check it:

http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickguards.html (http://store.guitarfetish.com/pickguards.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 02 Jun 2010, 15:27
I'm not going to Photoshop either of those because

a.) aged white and white are similar enough that you can probably visualize that pretty easily

and b.) mint green would look disgusting on the finish, in my opinion.


Here's black pearl, however:

(http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/th_pickguard1.jpg) (http://s981.photobucket.com/albums/ae295/DukeSunburst/?action=view&current=pickguard1.jpg)

would you people stop having ideas it is eating up my precious time

jeez, god
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Jun 2010, 08:37
I am itching to play some loud fucking guitar, man. I love solo stuff and I love being an acoustic artist, but Jesus.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 03 Jun 2010, 11:08
I am itching to play some loud fucking guitar, man. I love solo stuff and I love being an acoustic artist, but Jesus.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 03 Jun 2010, 13:25
agreed
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2010, 03:44
Hey Gaz, I just got back from doing what you wanted to do. Be jealous, my fully hollow ES-345 clone through a Blues Junior.

I'll repeat that. Fully hollow ES-345 clone through a Blues Junior.

I'll rephrase that. Tonight I made Billy Gibbons sound like Enya.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 06 Jun 2010, 21:40
That might be taking the claim a little too far, Pat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jun 2010, 23:37
Prove it
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 07 Jun 2010, 00:42
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7504/gibbonslespauls46010046.jpg)

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4589/enya4.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2010, 01:12
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2828.jpg)

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8128/0213205000xl.jpg)

Gibbons and his stack of Les Pauls can suck it, hollowbodies own you and so do Blues Juniors
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Jun 2010, 06:33
(http://www.mac222.com/zz-top-W.jpg)

goddamnit
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Post by: BlahBlah on 07 Jun 2010, 10:08
yo patrick, should I buy a buzzstop for my jazzmaster? The buzzing & zero sustain is kinda starting to annoy me but is there any downside?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 07 Jun 2010, 10:48
mastery bridddgggeeee
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 07 Jun 2010, 10:59
Man, no one realizes how much work it is to learn to play a Jazzmaster/Jaguar and do it justice when they buy one because IT'S SO PRETTY.

Particularly if you're used to that ringing Gibson sustain. You could dickslap a Les Paul and it would sustain for days.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: BlahBlah on 07 Jun 2010, 12:05
I usually play a strat, so it's not the sustain I'm worried about. I set it up regularly but it's just developed more buzz recently and I can't seem to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2010, 13:52
LocTite every motherfucking screw in the bridge.

That'll solve it unless your saddles are just plain too low. That's a common source of that infamous buzz. But if you put the saddles too high, the intonation screws will wind up interfering with the string. It's a fine, fine balance.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 12 Jun 2010, 21:44
Man, I love it when my wife follows instructions.  My birthday/Father's Day present came in the house today.  I don't actually get It for a few days, but all I have to say is Gibson 82570511


Pictures in a week or so
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 14 Jun 2010, 14:38
Anyone else check to make sure that wasn't a Musiciansfriend product number?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Jun 2010, 16:30
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2852.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/leadhindenburg/IMG_2853.jpg)

I bought a new guitar at the start of last month. $450 out of my tax returns, so fucking inexpensive, holy crap. And it's perfection, too. These people know how to make a ballin' acoustic. Simon & Patrick are owned by Godin, who also own Seagull and some other shit. They own the forests that provide wood for Fender and Taylor, but the Godin companies get first pick. It's a ridiculously clean-sounding instrument.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Jun 2010, 18:44
Anyone else check to make sure that wasn't a Musiciansfriend product number?

Nope, it's a serial number.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 14 Jun 2010, 23:05
Fuck you Patrick I'm out of cigarettes.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 15 Jun 2010, 10:26
Anyone else check to make sure that wasn't a Musiciansfriend product number?

Nope, it's a serial number.

No clue WHAT it is, but:

Quote from: The Guitar Dater Project
Your guitar was made at the
Nashville Plant, TN, USA
September 14th, 1980
Production Number: 11
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 15 Jun 2010, 14:50
Wait, does that mean that it was the 11th made of its model, or of that particular run? Or something completely different?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 15 Jun 2010, 17:24
I only means it was the 11th guitar to come of that line from that plant on that day.

Low numbers aren't really that big of a deal. 
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Post by: BaneAtvar on 17 Jun 2010, 19:47
@Patrick:

That spruce top is absolutely out of this world, congrats.

Might I suggest you clean the fretboard next time you change the strings, though? Some cedar oil works just fine, just to keep the fretboard moisturized and bright looking.

Helps loads with the feel of the guitar, and I think it looks a lot cleaner.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 17 Jun 2010, 20:47
Personally I hate spruce guitars.

But that is a nice one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jun 2010, 01:31
@Patrick:

That spruce top is absolutely out of this world, congrats.

Might I suggest you clean the fretboard next time you change the strings, though? Some cedar oil works just fine, just to keep the fretboard moisturized and bright looking.

Helps loads with the feel of the guitar, and I think it looks a lot cleaner.

I like a moderate amount of grime for aesthetic purposes, but I'll definitely be needing to do this on my hollowbody. I might even have to refret, bending notes is such an enormous pain in the ass on the thing. I'd also like to swap the original bridge for a Tune-O-Matic, assuming the TOM fits the beastly thing.

These are all plans for when I actually have money, which will be never.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Jun 2010, 17:08
Birthday/Father's Day gift...

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/IMG_4220.jpg)



1980 Gibson "The Paul" Firebrand Deluxe.    I like it so much, I've already bought another one.

Yes, if you remember correctly, I do have a strange obsession with slightly oddball, low(er) production run guitars that other people tend to overlook.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Jun 2010, 10:23
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_8092.jpg)

What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_8098.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 22 Jun 2010, 11:35
Birthday/Father's Day gift...

<image>

1980 Gibson "The Paul" Firebrand Deluxe.    I like it so much, I've already bought another one.

Yes, if you remember correctly, I do have a strange obsession with slightly oddball, low(er) production run guitars that other people tend to overlook.

Beauty.  Love the finish; I have the same kind on my Les Paul Studio.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Jun 2010, 07:06
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:



What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.



That's one of Andrews creations, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 23 Jun 2010, 07:30
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:
What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.

That's the sweetest guitar, right?

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Jun 2010, 14:48
sO. My Tiny Terror got knocked off of the tailgate of the F250. Land on it's top/handle. After getting the rest of the crap loaded I plugged it in and got nothing. Fortunately it was a problem with a gtr cable and it kept on ticking. /endorsement.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Jun 2010, 07:17
I'm trying to see if I can get this put on hold for a few weeks on OSG:
What's that, you say? No controls? Oh, they're there. A killswitch and a dark/bright switch.

That's the sweetest guitar, right?



That goes without saying, mang.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jun 2010, 08:32
I've always wanted to have a guitar with no volume control, and I've always wanted a mustang with tort.

This solves all my issues! He's holding it for me, should have it by the end of July.

(btw yeah, Andrew built it. I was going to have him just do a body for me, but this is way cooler)
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Post by: negative creep on 26 Jun 2010, 09:17
Shane, that is probably the best guitar I have ever seen! Where can I get one and how much would I have to pay?
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jun 2010, 09:27
You can have it.

when you pry it from my cold dead hands.


But seriously. It was made by a guy on OSG. I'm not sure if he does custom orders anymore.
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jun 2010, 10:35
Guys after last night I really want a Jazzmaster and an Orange head plus 4x12.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 26 Jun 2010, 10:44
Pavement, I take it?

Yeah, his tone was amazing. I also want the overdrive he uses, the hot cake. I loved his strat sound as well, but I just can't get anything close to it. Maybe I need new pickups.
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Post by: Ballard on 26 Jun 2010, 20:57
What's on the bridge on that bastard Mustang?

Patrick, good for you you're already halfway there.
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Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 26 Jun 2010, 23:39
I was curious about that Hot Cake thing, so I looked it up.  You know, whenever I watch gear demos on the internet, all the guys do is noodle around with blues riffs.  Would it kill them to just bash on an open E chord, just for a little bit?
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Post by: Christophe on 27 Jun 2010, 07:38
Andy from ProGuitarShop.com usually does gear demos that aren't just blues lawyer licks over and over again. Check hiim out here! (http://proguitarshop.com/video-reviews)
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jun 2010, 11:18
What's on the bridge on that bastard Mustang?

Those are called strings sir
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ImRonBurgundy? on 27 Jun 2010, 17:45
Andy from ProGuitarShop.com usually does gear demos that aren't just blues lawyer licks over and over again. Check hiim out here! (http://proguitarshop.com/video-reviews)

Man, that Hummingbird tremolo is pretty rad.
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Post by: Ballard on 27 Jun 2010, 18:53
What's on the bridge on that bastard Mustang?

Those are called strings sir

There's something between/underneath the B and G strings on the bridge. Or am I imagining things?
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jun 2010, 23:32
Looks to be a screw for adjusting intonation on those two strings, but I'm not actually sure. Shane?
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Post by: Christophe on 27 Jun 2010, 23:45
It looks like one of these (http://store.guitarfetish.com/wiliadinwrbr.html) wraparound bridges from GFS. It says that it's a "compensatable G/B section" so Pat is right on the money.
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Post by: Christophe on 28 Jun 2010, 08:49
http://www.rondomusic.com
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Post by: Ballard on 28 Jun 2010, 12:09
Remember that semi-hollow guitars, particularly when played through distortion pedals, feedback like a motherfucker.

In the bad, humming anytime you're not making other sounds way. Not the awesome Big Black way.
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Post by: The Duke on 28 Jun 2010, 15:35
rule number one of noise rock: there is no such thing as bad feedback
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Post by: Ballard on 28 Jun 2010, 15:58
If you'd ever had a faulty pot you'd know how wrong you are.
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Post by: Ballard on 28 Jun 2010, 18:14
Also, make sure that there are fret markers on the neck, or the lack of them on the fretboard will start pissing you off very quickly.
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Post by: The Duke on 28 Jun 2010, 18:50
aaahh you caught me

I do not know the first thing about noise rock

(Seriously, I don't.  It was sort of a joke.)
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Post by: Chad K. on 28 Jun 2010, 22:29
Just bought a Joe Pass Emperor on Saturday one day before my band were due to spend all day in a studio.  It was the only thing I used for the recording on sunday.  I haven't told it yet, but I'm in love.
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Jun 2010, 01:03
http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000csbfl.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000csbfl.html)
One of these in a gloss black finish came into a pawn shop near my house, but it was gone within hours.  So angry I couldn't pick it up.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Jun 2010, 01:09
Every example of fretless electric guitar I have heard sounds like ass to me. Guitar Thread, bring me good examples of fretless guitar!
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Jun 2010, 01:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PyOZhgQnvU
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Post by: Zingoleb on 29 Jun 2010, 09:01
Wild, the body on that fretless looks exactly like my bass.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 11:06
Or were you referring to the ridiculous metal fretboard one in the video?
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Jun 2010, 12:38
In which case: wild, your bass looks like a Strat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 16:00
I was thinking "shitty Ibanez superstrat" but you know whatev
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Post by: Nodaisho on 29 Jun 2010, 19:49
I don't know, it seems to give a nice shiny tone.
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2010, 22:07
I wasn't saying it was a shitty Ibanez superstrat I was just saying it looked like one

You're totally right though that thing sounded fuckin' vicious, I bet Derek Trucks would cream himself
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Post by: Nodaisho on 29 Jun 2010, 23:55
To be completely honest, that post was solely to make a reflective metal/shiny pun.

But come to think of it, that tone was pretty amazing. Anyone know anything about that company? I had never heard of them before.
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Jun 2010, 09:06
I wasn't saying it was a shitty Ibanez superstrat I was just saying it looked like one

You're totally right though that thing sounded fuckin' vicious, I bet Derek Trucks would cream himself

Somewhere, he did.  And he has no idea why.
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Post by: carrotosaurus on 04 Jul 2010, 06:52
The metal fretboard is a pretty old idea in the East. Probably makes it super easy to bend. Check out this sarod (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarod):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzDx7vgluq0
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Post by: BlahBlah on 04 Jul 2010, 08:35
no I don't think you can
y'all lying
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Post by: The Duke on 04 Jul 2010, 11:12
but it would be so metal

(puns ftw)

(wait that is not a pun)

(guitar topic, please tell me if that is a pun or not)
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Post by: Bearer on 04 Jul 2010, 16:48
http://www.jamestrussart.com/Newsite/Models.htm

see also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJRH8ILm4VI
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Jul 2010, 16:53
The nut on my Jag broke.

I swear there's no fucking God.
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Post by: Ballard on 04 Jul 2010, 23:11
Dude it's a nut.

Get a new one, jeez. They're what, like 10 bucks for a really nice one?
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Post by: Bearer on 04 Jul 2010, 23:14
Better yet, you could be a manly man and go to a pet store, buy a cow-bone and make one from scratch:

http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/ (http://www.tdpri.com/2009/10/03/going-nuts-over-nuts/)

Bonus points if you kill a bear for its femur instead.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Jul 2010, 11:06
Gene after having paid rent I now have exactly four U.S. dollars to my name. That guitar and my hollowbody are my only source of income right now.
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Post by: Akima on 06 Jul 2010, 03:56
I swear there's no fucking God.
Or God plays keyboards, or sax, or something...
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Post by: Ballard on 06 Jul 2010, 10:28
Nope, definitely not sax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_G).
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jul 2010, 10:38
It looks like one of these (http://store.guitarfetish.com/wiliadinwrbr.html) wraparound bridges from GFS. It says that it's a "compensatable G/B section" so Pat is right on the money.

*shrug* I'll let you guys know when I get it. Put a down payment on it last week.
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Post by: The Duke on 06 Jul 2010, 11:08
Nope, definitely not sax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_G).

Counterpoint. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Clemons)
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Post by: Bearer on 13 Jul 2010, 19:24
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs031.ash2/34926_403805727881_566427881_4632375_3034517_n.jpg)

Finally finished putting together my stereo guitar prototype.  It can send the neck and bridge pickups to either the right or left channel separately, or send both pickups to that standard tele 3-way and then output to a mono (left) channel.  It has one stereo output jack, and that cigar box in the background separates it into two mono channels.  Basically, I can distort the neck pickup and leave the bridge nice and shimmery, or vice versa.  It's one ugly sob (basically a Frankenstein monster) but for being built out of home depot lumber and a pawn shop strat clone, it sounds hella good!
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Jul 2010, 19:37
I don't know how the lumber impacts the tone but as far as looks it's pretty damn beautiful.

Just put some finish on it and you'll be set.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 14 Jul 2010, 03:33
No he's right.  It' pretty hideous looking.   No need to tell people with ugly babies that they have cute kids.  They know they don't.  Just kind of avoid the subject entirely and say things like "I hear Timmy gets straight As in Math.  You must be proud."

The idea behind that is pretty neat though.  If that's you're first effort ever, I'm ridiculously impressed.  My first several guitars I built have been dismantled likely never to see the light of day again and I wasn't even trying to  do anything  wonky with the electronics.   Nice.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Jul 2010, 03:40
That guitar would be straight-up fuckin' delicious if it weren't for that suspect f-hole. (Is it even accurate to call that an f-hole?)
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Post by: Ballard on 14 Jul 2010, 12:56
No dude I actually like the way it looks.

Although I didn't notice before that the F-hole is too close to the pickguard.
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Jul 2010, 14:35
The neck and pickguard are from a $60 strat clone that I took a hack saw to.  And the f-hole is just a major f-up in general, but yeah, my first real effort into guitar bodies.  It's got a cedar back and a poplar front.  Sounds real nice actually.
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Post by: The Duke on 14 Jul 2010, 16:51
Then congratulations!  Someday I hope I can have the money and/or skill and/or time to build myself a guitar.

I am living vicariously through you and your guitar
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Jul 2010, 06:55
Hmm, watch the ground loop hum running two amps. If it is a problem I know a guy what can make you a break out box that has a ground lift built in. I have one for my parker nitefly.
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Jul 2010, 15:21
Having stereo options for guitars just sounds like a moneysucker idea to me. While I will not disagree that it would be awesome to run each pickup to a different amp, the problem is having two good amps ;)
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Post by: Ballard on 18 Jul 2010, 01:59
If you'd ever heard a Ric 4003 played live you'd shut the hell up.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Jul 2010, 05:59
Honestly Patrick I blend mine at the guitar with a standard instrument cable. But when I was doing some recording, since my X3Live pedal has dual inputs/tones... I was able to run the acoustic sound through a separate signal chain than the DiMarzios and that was pretty useful. Dragging two amps to a show is a PITA.
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Post by: Bearer on 18 Jul 2010, 11:46
My original idea behind this guitar was something that could work in a studio environment, where having multiple channels at once could be useful, but then also at a show.  That's why it also has a mono mode where the pickups are sent to the three way switch like a standard telecaster.  Even going live with stereo out, you could have the separate pickups driving 2 different effects chains that get blended together at the end into one amp.

Still, even if it's not practical, it is fun to mess around with.  I should probably record something and youtube it.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jul 2010, 18:20
If you'd ever heard a Ric 4003 played live you'd shut the hell up.

Cool your shorts, sugartits, I'm not hating, I'm just saying there's financial and physical impracticalities inherent in such a design. If you've got the motivation and funding to get past those, though, you're fuckin' home free.
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Post by: Radical AC on 18 Jul 2010, 18:26
Would it cause the same problems if you split it with and ABY into two amps?  I know Prowse from the Japandroids has such a setup, and I believe Nick Zinner from the Yeah Yeah Yeahs has such a setup.  I was considering running something like that on stage with my main effects chain into my Deville, an split another with an ABY into a bass amp with a POG or Digitech Whammy.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Jul 2010, 23:57
I mean, fuck, Scott Hull runs into like 8 amps with Pig Destroyer..
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Post by: Ballard on 19 Jul 2010, 11:07
All eight of them br00tal as fukk.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2010, 12:56
I wanna see a band like Slayer make their guitarist play shit like a Line 6 Variax so that each string will go to a different amp

And then watch them realize that the brain-melting distortion won't sound anywhere near the same that way
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Jul 2010, 18:16
I wanna see a band like Slayer

?
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2010, 18:28
Oh sorry am I suggesting that Slayer isn't unique, does that hurt
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Jul 2010, 19:13
So I got a Rockband drum controller for $10 and have it hooked up to my computer as a drum kit.  This may have been one of the best purchases ever.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Jul 2010, 09:47
Oh sorry am I suggesting that Slayer isn't unique, does that hurt

I was just wondering why you would even want to see Slayer, mang. Kerry King is a tool.

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Post by: Ballard on 20 Jul 2010, 16:57
(http://roguemag.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/sq_kerry_king_live_050612.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jul 2010, 17:35
Argue with that beard

I dare you, that fuckin' thing'll kill you
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Post by: Nodaisho on 20 Jul 2010, 20:48
The beard or the guitar?
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Jul 2010, 21:49
Pick one; they both look very stabby.
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Post by: Radical AC on 26 Jul 2010, 00:51
So opinions, I love them.  I've been trying to figure out my favorite guitar look.  I've come to the conclusion that the 4003 is the "coolest" (sound, elegance, "it" factor) looking bass. (I have much love for the EB-3 and Jag bass as well)  My favorite guitars would have to be my Rick 350v63, (gotta love what you got, and it's why I got it) the G&L Bluesboy, and Gretsch White Penguin.  But, the one that wins out for me is the Mosrite Ventures.  So, I've been looking at getting one.

(http://www.edroman.com/featured/images/mosrite_ventures.jpg)

So, it's kind of a general question for the thread, but I'm wondering what others thoughts on the subject are.
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Jul 2010, 01:02
Ricky 4001s were hella cooler than the new 03s.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 26 Jul 2010, 11:58
I would possibly murder a small child for a Mosrite. Gorgeous guitars
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jul 2010, 12:30
They sound so fuckin' sexy.

I mean shit, the Unicorns used them too, not just the Ventures, and everybody fuckin' loves the Unicorns.
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Post by: Bearer on 26 Jul 2010, 14:55
As soon as I get the time/money, I'm going to build a proper guitar.  Definitely a thinline Jazzmaster shape like the one I just recently completed, but out of some fancy wood, like Black Walnut/Cedar ideally, but those are kind of hard to find in specific thicknesses, so I'll probably have to go mahogany/maple. Nice and glossy.  Neck P90, Bridge humbucker, with a telecaster control plate and either a strat tremolo block or one of these sexy motherfuckers if I suddenly win the lottery or something:
(http://www.glendaleguitars.com/chimemaster03.jpg) (http://www.glendaleguitars.com/trem%20blocks.htm)

Dam, if only I didn't have more important stuff to blow money on...
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jul 2010, 12:28
What. the. fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 27 Jul 2010, 14:46
What. the. fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 27 Jul 2010, 21:18
Martin and Takamine are both good; however, I think Martins are generally kind of expensive (although in my experience you get what you pay for).
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Post by: Spluff on 27 Jul 2010, 22:48
get a fuckin dobro
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Jul 2010, 23:50
guys what kind of acoustic guitar should I get? I can probably go up to like six hundred bucks if I don't spend any money for a month or so. (It would be an advantage if it can, uh, take a beating.)

I highly reccomend Simon & Patrick. You absolutely will not regret it. Got mine for $450 and it's a fantastic instrument. I'm very satisfied with that purchase. They're owned by Godin, same people who own Seagull, which is also a fine instrument.

See the photos of mine on the previous page, that's pretty much what they look like. Reeeeal purdy. They sound just as nice as they look.
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Post by: Radical AC on 28 Jul 2010, 16:15
I've been looking at S&P myself.  I want a Jumbo and don't feel like spending several thousand dollars on a J-200.  I bought my brother a Seagull guitar two years ago for his birthday and it play way better than I thought a guitar in that price range should.
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Post by: Ballard on 04 Aug 2010, 00:34
You should know, Martins are infamous for their dark tone. I had one of their cheaper models (cedar top, back and sides, was about 700 bucks?) once and it constantly bothered me how quiet and dull it was.

If you like sparkling, jangly acoustic tone, avoid Martin. Guild makes some excellent guitars for around that much, as do Blueridge and Art & Lutherie. Go play some and tell me what you think.

Remember that the "play the actual guitar you're buying" rule applies double for acoustics. Each and every one feels and sounds a little different.
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Post by: Albatron on 05 Aug 2010, 16:12
So a while back I took the neck off of a strat knockoff and put it on the body of an old rickenbacker hollowbody knockoff. Then I decided to remake the bridge and nut and tune it like a ukulele. only now im not sure what strings to use to get it to be g, c, e, a. The scale length is 25 1/2 or so. I tried using some old guitar strings but they were way too loose.

What strings should I use, o great masters of all thing guitar? I'll post some pics and sound bites once I get the electronics all figured out. 
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Aug 2010, 16:33
Depending on which octave those notes are in, the answer could be anything. If you're trying to get them into a higher octave than one would normally hear on a guitar, I'd say to try out lighter strings than your typical set, unless you've already got hella light strings on there. If you're trying to go deeper, get heavier ones. Pretty intuitive. Also, that sounds like a fucking baller project and I demand pics.
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Post by: Albatron on 05 Aug 2010, 20:52
Hmm, I guess that makes sense. I'm going for whatever octave a guitar is normally in, but the reentrant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reentrant_tuning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reentrant_tuning) tuning throws me off. The G is a octave higher than would be expected, then the C is the lowest string. I Just wanna know if I can use a set of regular or light guitar strings and not have some strings really tight and others relatively loose or if i need to buy single strings to achieve that. 
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Aug 2010, 19:26
So a Mark 1 Mosrite guitar is 2400 new direct or from Ed Roman.  I discovered The Ventures sponsored another guitar with mostly the same features later on HERE (http://www.wilsonguitarventures.com/vm75.html) for 550.  Rory Attwell from Test Icicles uses one.  It uses Aria pickups and bridge which I would consider swapping out.  I'm thinking of getting the VM 75 and putting in either THESE (http://store.guitarfetish.com/gfsalvisoblp.html) or bareknuckle soapbars(but they are way more expensive).  Thinking of getting it for my first project guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Aug 2010, 19:30
I mean the trem's a bit different, but it'd be a good guitar to mod.

Have you looked at Eastwood? They do Mosrite (http://eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/sidejack-DLX/sidejackDLX_frm.htm) and Univox (http://eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/hi-flyer/hi-flyer_frm.htm) clones that are a little less than the Wilson Brothers.
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Post by: Radical AC on 06 Aug 2010, 20:01
I have!  Eastwood is a pretty neat company.  I suggested them to my bassist friend and he bought [urlhttp://www.eastwoodguitars.com/Bass/classic4/images/classic4-big/classic4white.jpg=]THIS[/url] and absolutely loves it for his post rock band.  I would love to play both, but would have to go to Oregon before I could find a place that had both in stock.  I'm leaning towards the VM-75 because it uses the same construction and materials as the Mosrite where as the Eastwoods are made of basswood, but I'm not totally sure.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 06 Aug 2010, 23:42
I used to work at a place (http://ludlowguitars.com/) that stocks Eastwood's full line, and will vouch for their quality and playability.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Aug 2010, 09:07
I've only played the Ichiban before, but it was killer.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 07 Aug 2010, 09:27
I used to work at a place (http://ludlowguitars.com/) that stocks Eastwood's full line, and will vouch for their quality and playability.
Wow, we are playing a 7 minute walk away from there Friday 8.13.
Must. Resist. Temptation.
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Post by: Christophe on 08 Aug 2010, 22:40
As copypasted from that other board I post on, here's a smattering of my current guitar family:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P8090720.jpg)

The main guitar; a 1980 Fender Lead II with GFS Brighton Rock single-coil in the bridge, stock pickup in the neck. Feels somewhat heavy but it plays and sounds so good.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P8090721.jpg)

A friend's Squier Telecaster. Action is shit. Currently tuned to CGEGCC for one of the songs I've written.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P8090722.jpg)

L-R: Ibanez Artwood acoustic guitar, Ibanez bass (bought from a classmate for $20), another friend's Squier Jazz Bass with the frets pulled out. It sounds okay but he done screwed it up a bit (part of the nut is missing near the g string wtf), will probably give back to him as soon as he remembers to take it back.

Also, question: I'm in the market for a new tube amp (hopefully to be purchased by money saved up over the next few months). I'm looking for something with a low-enough wattage that wouldn't be ridiculous at a house show or a small venue but won't be underpowered next to a loud drummer. Amps that have caught my eye include the Fender Blues Jr. and Epiphone Valve Senior. Anyone got any thoughts?
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Aug 2010, 06:48
Wow, we are playing a 7 minute walk away from there Friday 8.13.
Must. Resist. Temptation.

Do it. You won't regret it.

Your wife might.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 10:29
Ooh, Ludlow has a National Airline.  I'd consider putting it on my card if Jack White didn't make them so cliche.

The main guitar; a 1980 Fender Lead II with GFS Brighton Rock single-coil in the bridge, stock pickup in the neck. Feels somewhat heavy but it plays and sounds so good.

Also, question: I'm in the market for a new tube amp (hopefully to be purchased by money saved up over the next few months). I'm looking for something with a low-enough wattage that wouldn't be ridiculous at a house show or a small venue but won't be underpowered next to a loud drummer. Amps that have caught my eye include the Fender Blues Jr. and Epiphone Valve Senior. Anyone got any thoughts?

I love racing stripes on Fenders.  I am always on the lookout for a Cyclone II if I can find a good one at a reasonable price.

I have a Hotrod DeVille 410 and a really good option for louder tube amps is the THD Hot Plate or other power attenuator.  It is a bit pricey, but for how much a good tube amp is, it is a good alternative to another amp.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Aug 2010, 10:53
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/732/axeg.jpg)
I love this thing to death.
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Post by: glyphic on 09 Aug 2010, 11:02
I respect the fact that you're in a committed relationship with that guitar, but I will never cease coveting it behind your back.
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Post by: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 12:08
That was a specific reference to the J.B. Hutto Montgomery Airline they have.  Supro Twin Tones are ace, though.  As much as I love the Hutto you are emulating Jack White if you play one ever if you are not trying to.  Other than signature models it seems to be a unique phenomenon to that guitar.  There may be others so closely related to an artist, but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Aug 2010, 12:51
That's five kinds of stupid, bro.

Airlines are killer guitars and you can easily pull one off without being Jack White.

I'm pretty sure Jack White himself resents you for pigeonholing him into being that red guy with the lame drummer chick.
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Post by: Radical AC on 09 Aug 2010, 13:13
I think I'm misrepresenting my opinion.  I have mad respect for Jack White and his custom aluminum Tripple Jet for the Raconteurs is something I've been GASing about for a while. (even earlier in this thread)  I just can't think of a guitar that is more closely associated to the artist than the JB Hutto and Jack White in all of music.
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Post by: Ballard on 09 Aug 2010, 14:09
Do it.

Personally I like the gold hardware on this particular guitar. The rest of it is really subtle (white on black) and so it's not horrible and gaudy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Aug 2010, 10:50
Chris, AC15s are in your price range.

Get a fucking AC15.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Aug 2010, 10:58
I think I'm misrepresenting my opinion.  I have mad respect for Jack White and his custom aluminum Tripple Jet for the Raconteurs is something I've been GASing about for a while. (even earlier in this thread)  I just can't think of a guitar that is more closely associated to the artist than the JB Hutto and Jack White in all of music.

Gee, how about Les Paul and the Les Paul? Jimmy Page and the cherry sunburst Les Paul?

(and yes I know Paul plays a highly modified Recorder these days, nevertheless)

Billy Gibbons and the Gretsch Thunderbird?

Jimi Hendrix and the reversed cream Stratocaster?

Paul McCartney and the Hofner violin bass?

Kerry King and that piece of ass someone took an icepick to?
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Post by: Christophe on 10 Aug 2010, 11:25
Neil Young + Old Black Les Paul, Tim Midgett + Travis Bean Wedge Bass, Roger Miller + Fender Lead II, no wait I copped that last one.
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Post by: The Duke on 10 Aug 2010, 12:19
Gee, how about Les Paul and the Les Paul?
<snip>
(and yes I know Paul plays a highly modified Recorder these days, nevertheless)
<snip>

Sadly, I don't think he plays much of anything these days.


Nevertheless, I agree, all of those are way better examples than Jack White.  Others include:

Bruce Springsteen and his Telecaster/Esquire hybrid

Slash and his Les Pauls

Glen Hansard and his beat-to-shit acoustic

Angus Young and his SGs

John Fogerty and his Les Pauls
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Aug 2010, 12:34
Oh jesus right, it slipped my mind that he passed away.

Pretty much right up until his death, he was doing weekly shows at the Iridium Jazz Club here in New York.
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Post by: The Duke on 10 Aug 2010, 13:19
Because he was a stone cold badass.  Much respect.
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Post by: Radical AC on 10 Aug 2010, 17:22
I'll just 100% concede the point.

I believe the Vox Night Train and Orange Tinny Terror were pretty much made to fit the role of being small tube amps that can get pretty loud if needed.  Doombilly has one?  I believe he could attest to it better than me.

@V: That is what I was trying to get at, said much better. But I've already conceded the point
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Aug 2010, 18:04
Oh jesus right, it slipped my mind that he passed away.

Pretty much right up until his death, he was doing weekly shows at the Iridium Jazz Club here in New York.

Wasn't he playing three nights a week? Not just one? That man was a fuckin' hardass like nothing else.

As far as the Hofner violin bass goes, well, I've never seen anybody noteworthy other than Paul McCartney with one. As for Les Pauls and Teles, they're so damn common, who could possibly link them to just one musician? A reversed Strat instantly recalls Hendrix, though. An ES-345 sans F-holes conjure images of B.B. King's original Lucille, she wasn't the only one of her kind. Red ES-335s are an instant link to Clapton's days with Cream, EDS-1275s are synonymous with Jimmy Page.

So what if somebody wants to not wind up getting lumped into a certain category because of their guitar? They can do two things. Thing 1 would be to play something with a marked distinction from what the artist-who-made-it-famous played, and make a damn good mark that way. How many of us are lucky enough to do that? So some opt to do Thing 2, which is to use guitar makes and models that don't have that star connection.

Obviously we would all like to go with Thing 1. But Thing 2 isn't necessarily a bad thing. It just isn't necessarily a good thing either.

That said, I'm still going to judge you all relentlessly. IF U PLAY A LES PAUL UR A FAGGET WHO LIEKS SLASH
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Post by: Christophe on 10 Aug 2010, 18:13
As far as the Hofner violin bass goes, well, I've never seen anybody noteworthy other than Paul McCartney with one.

Hey Pat I am about to make you rage with one image. You know which image it is?

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2683665132_02e6ef80e1.jpg)

It is that one.
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Post by: squawk on 10 Aug 2010, 18:20
interrupting the boys' guitar wankery to make this face
 :D
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Aug 2010, 18:21
Gene I have no earthly idea who that is so I'm just gonna ignore you
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Post by: Bearer on 11 Aug 2010, 02:04
Panda panda panda panda panda panda!
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Aug 2010, 09:45
kill kill kill kill kill fuck death kill slash murder kill death kill
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Aug 2010, 10:52
here we go again
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Post by: The Duke on 11 Aug 2010, 11:26
on our own
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Aug 2010, 15:51
Orange Tiny Terror
I am definitely a fan. )Although I sort of wished I'd brought the 5150 combo to play that last outdoor show. Or More PA. But then we got rained on in the middle of it so...maybe not.) Anyway the TT is a great little amplifier. When I recorded "New New One" (http://soundcloud.com/illicitizen-1/new-new-one) I used two guitars (1st Acoustic Black Widow, Lead on the Parker) and no pedals. Both with the knobs (gain/vol) turned nearly all the way up. I think I lost some hearing. I've not heard the night train. But the club we areplaying at next doesn't have a gtr head so I'm bringing the TT to play through their backline cab. Be at 168 Delancey Street New York, NY Friday at 8PM and hear for yourself.  :-D
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Post by: glyphic on 12 Aug 2010, 06:28
Played a 1989 Gibson Explorer yesterday. I liked it. The one thing I didn't expect was how heavy it would be.

It was at Guitar Center. They had it priced at $1499. It was beat to shit. Chips and nicks everywhere, rust on the tuners and pretty much any other metal surface. There was writing all over the back of it. Like someone had all his friends sign their names. It didn't even have the original pickups. As I was blues lawyering it up, a sales guy came up to me and said "I can make you a deal on this. I was going to put it on sale. You can walk with it for $1000."

I laughed.
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Aug 2010, 06:58
here we go again
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Aug 2010, 06:59
Although I'm pretty sure that's the chick from Blonde Redhead and not from Deerhoof.

Pat, look at avatars before you post sucka.
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Post by: Christophe on 12 Aug 2010, 15:18
How does it sound when playing basslines on it? Is it as thick as a regular bass would be?

Part of me really wants to get a Bass-VI type guitar, and this is a thing I wonder.
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Post by: Bearer on 12 Aug 2010, 15:42
I have 12's on my Firebird and tune it down a step to D standard, and it just sounds beautiful.  Thicker strings + lower tunings = delicious.
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Post by: sean on 12 Aug 2010, 16:11
sam, pics!
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Aug 2010, 18:33
Although I'm pretty sure that's the chick from Blonde Redhead and not from Deerhoof.

Pat, look at avatars before you post sucka.

Gene I still don't know who that is (because people choose instead to post dumb clues to whomever it may be instead of actually saying it, classic internet style), but honestly I could not give a fuck, because they are still not nearly as instantly recognizable as Paul McCartney. Hell, YOU don't even know who that is for certain.
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Post by: Ballard on 12 Aug 2010, 21:02
No I lied it's the fucking Deerhoof chick.

But you can see where my confusion stems from.

(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1710/blonderedheadkazumakino.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Aug 2010, 02:32
Holy fuck, speaking of Bass-VIs. I sorta kinda desperately want one.
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Post by: FreshJive787 on 13 Aug 2010, 10:24
i got lost. can someone point me in the direction of the nearest internets highway?
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Aug 2010, 18:50
No I lied it's the fucking Deerhoof chick.

What is she playing?
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Post by: Radical AC on 13 Aug 2010, 19:12
The Fender VI or Bass VI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Bass_VI) people were talking about.  Looks pretty ace, and makes me wish I played bass, or maybe just had a Jag.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Aug 2010, 05:06
No I lied it's the fucking Deerhoof chick.

What is she playing?

I think it's a Teisco with a jazz/jag trem. Probably a bass-VI-alike
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Aug 2010, 18:33
aw man fuck 6-string basses y'know what
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 15 Aug 2010, 12:24
but Hooky!


(http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab325/desolationrow10/Hooky-2.jpg?t=1281900246)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Aug 2010, 17:18
And Jack Bruce motherfucker and actually come to think of it Paul McCartney (and John Lennon!) on the last few Beatles records, you cock.
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Aug 2010, 17:46
Just so everybody is on the same page:

(http://images.msorensen.net/My%20Guitars/BassVI.gif) =/= (http://www.simondalfonso.id.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/sr506.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Aug 2010, 17:59
Bass VIs make me so very wet, you don't even know. I will only ever own two basses in my lifetime, if I ever own a bass. One will be a Jazz Bass. The other, a Bass VI. So sexy.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Aug 2010, 12:44
To be honest i would rather own the more common kind of six-string bass.

Also, i saw a five-string Alembic in a store for like 1200 the other day. It will be mine.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 19 Aug 2010, 17:51
Ugh.   So I quit my job today, which because I never take vacation basically means I'm getting paid for like eight weeks of work on my last paycheck.  Cool.  I've got a million things I can do with that extra cash.   Unfortunately, I walk into my local music shop today to find that they've got a 65 SG special for sale in there. 

My wife is going to be so pissed.   Somebody please buy it before I do.
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Post by: sean on 19 Aug 2010, 19:43
yr in dc, what music shop is this?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 19 Aug 2010, 20:04
Dude, I don't want you to really buy it before I can.    Sheesh.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Aug 2010, 11:30
Mrs Doombilly and I never did make it to Ludlow Guitars. I has somewhat of a sad. But then I should probably keep paying the mortgage.
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Post by: Lupercal on 23 Aug 2010, 14:24
I remember seeing a Bass VI in the local newspaper for about £200. Two days later it had sold and I found out just how much they're actually worth. I hated myself.

I'm trying to mod my old Strat-copy, wondering if the Seymour Duncan SJAG-2 is a good pickup for it. Seeing as I'd love a Jag but have no muns...as is the story of my life.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Aug 2010, 10:28
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/2/5/3/734253.jpg)

Must. Have. The Voltage control carried over from the Germanium OD is just...filthy.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 25 Aug 2010, 07:50
hugl!
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 29 Aug 2010, 08:52
Yesterday was my once annual guitar maintenance day.   Everything got new strings, all my fingerboards got oiled, all the bodies got polished, and so did the frets.   I took the opportunity to put the correct truss rod cover on one of my semi-vintage Gibson's, and found out the neck pickup is dead on another guitar.  Two guitars will need fret jobs sometime in the next few months (surprise surprise, it's the two guitars I play the most) and I removed, crammed toothpicks and wood putty down the holes, and re-installed half a dozen loose straplocks.    Had so much fun jamming on some of the guitars I've hardly touched since the last time I did this.    Good times.   All the guitars feel so much different after giving them the once-over really thoroughly, I recommend everyone do it periodically.


That having been said:  Does anyone own a PRS CE model?   There's a really nice CE 24 on consignment at the local shop for a grand.   I have a big ass check coming next week and a thousand will be much more palatable to my wife than the  getting the 65 SG special.   There's just such a huge price difference between the customs and the CEs that I'm looking for first hand experience as to why?  The bit of research I've done says same quality, same workmanship, same woods, just a bolt on neck instead of a set one.   If that's really and truly all there is to it, I'm all over it.   I tend to gravitate towards the slightly less desirable instruments anyway.   I'm going to go down and play it some more, I was just looking for some firsthand experience. 

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Post by: Patrick on 29 Aug 2010, 11:18
Santana plays PRS. Get the SG.
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Aug 2010, 13:58
That argument doesn't work and you know it, Patrick. Fucking Nickelback plays PRS and that doesn't stop them from being some of the best-built, best-sounding and most playable guitars I've ever laid hands on. Every US model PRS I've ever tried has been mindblowingly good. Incindentally, my friend Jake's CE24 stands out among these, so I say go get it.
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Aug 2010, 22:46
I can't say much about PRS playability and tone but jesus are they some ten different kinds of hideous.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Aug 2010, 17:06
how come
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Post by: greenMonkey on 30 Aug 2010, 20:38
Evidence to the contrary:

http://prsguitars.com/starla/index.php


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Post by: Nodaisho on 30 Aug 2010, 22:33
Yeah, I don't see myself buying one unless they come out with a 7-string mahogany bodied and necked, dual humbuckered guitar with two tone pots and two volume pots, but they are nice looking guitars.
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Post by: Ballard on 31 Aug 2010, 00:44
Evidence to the contrary:
http://prsguitars.com/starla/index.php

That's an exception to the rule and you know it. Even so it's only just alright and doesn't come close to redeeming this.

(http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/63/p1uusu2qhpyso.jpg)
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Post by: Ballard on 31 Aug 2010, 00:52
Competely unrelated: how do we feel about this?

(http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/239346_S/Rock-Band-3-Instruments-Revealed.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 31 Aug 2010, 00:54
Shiiiiiiit

I might actually be able to play that damn game now.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 31 Aug 2010, 05:44
Are you saying that somewhere there is redemption for this?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_egvxlDnBlZo/SnJPycC4eBI/AAAAAAAACV0/mNnmLmFsftw/s400/zoot+2.bmp)

or this:

(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/dec09/dusk-tiger/dusk-tiger-intro-530-85.jpg)

Or fuck man, even just this (which, by way of comparison is pretty tame):

(http://carbonkidguitarstuff.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/robot-guitar.jpg)

Everybody makes some ugly guitars.  My question about the PRS isn't about the aesthetics.   I have an SE which is nice for the money you spend, but for the same price, I wouldn't buy another one.  I've also owned a custom, which was very nice, but again, not 30 yards worth of nice (at least, not to me).  I would, however, drop a grand on one, which is why I was wondering if it's really comparable to a custom, only with a bolt on neck.

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Post by: Lummer on 31 Aug 2010, 06:17
The CE's feel.... shreddier, for lack of a better word.
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Post by: Patrick on 31 Aug 2010, 07:29
That argument doesn't work and you know it, Patrick. Fucking Nickelback plays PRS and that doesn't stop them from being some of the best-built, best-sounding and most playable guitars I've ever laid hands on. Every US model PRS I've ever tried has been mindblowingly good. Incindentally, my friend Jake's CE24 stands out among these, so I say go get it.

I was talking about Santana's tone. Can't stand it, it ain't just him as a player or his style of music. I liked his sound better back when he was using Les Pauls and cranked-to-fuck amps.
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Post by: Christophe on 31 Aug 2010, 07:45
So I'm thinking of saving up for one of these (http://www.rondomusic.com/ad201.html). Slap an intonated bridge on it and some .11s and I think I'll be in heaven.
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Post by: Lummer on 31 Aug 2010, 08:33
That argument doesn't work and you know it, Patrick. Fucking Nickelback plays PRS and that doesn't stop them from being some of the best-built, best-sounding and most playable guitars I've ever laid hands on. Every US model PRS I've ever tried has been mindblowingly good. Incindentally, my friend Jake's CE24 stands out among these, so I say go get it.

I was talking about Santana's tone. Can't stand it, it ain't just him as a player or his style of music. I liked his sound better back when he was using Les Pauls and cranked-to-fuck amps.

Santana will sound like Santana, no matter what he's playing through. Not because he's any good any more, but because he dials his tone knob way the fuck down and plays with all the fire and originally of a wet blanket.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 Aug 2010, 09:08
Competely unrelated: how do we feel about this?


They're calling it a Mustang and clearly it's a late 60s Musicmaster..
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Post by: David_Dovey on 31 Aug 2010, 12:06
That's an exception to the rule and you know it. Even so it's only just alright and doesn't come close to redeeming this.

Way to dodge the question. I want to know what the problem is with the aesthetics of PRS's rank and file guitars. If we're gonna pick the worst of each brand's stuff then I'm just gonna go dig up that reliced Joe Strummer tele and blow this thread to hell
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Post by: Christophe on 31 Aug 2010, 17:07
So I've been playing with .11s on the Lead II for about a month and a half or so and I've gotten pretty used to them; to the point where I can bend up to a whole note.

Is it time to start moving up to .12s?
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Post by: Patrick on 31 Aug 2010, 17:31
Competely unrelated: how do we feel about this?


They're calling it a Mustang and clearly it's a late 60s Musicmaster..

NERRRRRRRRRD

I'm actually really excited to see that thing. Because playing on 'expert' by strumming with yr fucking feet just isn't fun, it's depressing.
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Post by: doombilly on 31 Aug 2010, 17:53
kind of a split from ole Ken P's thinking...
But US Music's new line has some sexy.
(http://www.parkerguitars.com/images/stories/feature/topfeature/DragonFly.jpg)
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Post by: Ballard on 01 Sep 2010, 06:17
Way to dodge the question. I want to know what the problem is with the aesthetics of PRS's rank and file guitars. If we're gonna pick the worst of each brand's stuff then I'm just gonna go dig up that reliced Joe Strummer tele and blow this thread to hell

The slightly modified Superstrat shape is ugly and I hate flamed tops for the most part.

And honestly that Tele wasn't ugly, it was just douchey. It was a pathetic attempt at marketing using a famous and widely revered dead guy. If I had a Tele which I personally beat to shit like that, I'd find it beautiful.

As for the robot guitars and the Zoot Suit SG, I guiltily have to admit that I like all three.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Sep 2010, 10:49
kind of a split from ole Ken P's thinking...
But US Music's new line has some sexy.
(http://www.parkerguitars.com/images/stories/feature/topfeature/DragonFly.jpg)

Unf!

The pickup-ring looks really tacky on there though.

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Post by: Melodic on 01 Sep 2010, 17:47
I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?
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Post by: The Duke on 01 Sep 2010, 19:53
Way to dodge the question. I want to know what the problem is with the aesthetics of PRS's rank and file guitars. If we're gonna pick the worst of each brand's stuff then I'm just gonna go dig up that reliced Joe Strummer tele and blow this thread to hell

The slightly modified Superstrat shape is ugly and I hate flamed tops for the most part.

And honestly that Tele wasn't ugly, it was just douchey. It was a pathetic attempt at marketing using a famous and widely revered dead guy. If I had a Tele which I personally beat to shit like that, I'd find it beautiful.

As for the robot guitars and the Zoot Suit SG, I guiltily have to admit that I like all three.

I'm with you there.
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Post by: Ballard on 03 Sep 2010, 00:53
I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

Fuck no. You can absolutely get a nice amp for $400.

I cannot stress enough that your amp is at least as, if not more, important than your guitar. I can't count the amount of times I've seen people blow $1000 on a guitar and settle for a lame amp, and deal with the consequences.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 03 Sep 2010, 08:59
I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

Fuck no. You can absolutely get a nice amp for $400.

I cannot stress enough that your amp is at least as, if not more, important than your guitar. I can't count the amount of times I've seen people blow $1000 on a guitar and settle for a lame amp, and deal with the consequences.

Seconded. Nice gear isn't worth buying if you don't have anything halfway decent to play it through.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 03 Sep 2010, 11:24
So, speaking of amps, what are the cheaper but good brands that can get sounds similar to orange or mesa boogie (I know those aren't the same sound, but the general idea is there)? A recto is somewhere just south of $1k if I remember correctly, I want to stop using my 10w Behringer amp, but I don't want to sell my car to do it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Sep 2010, 12:50
I can't be arsed to dredge the guitar pedals thread, so what the fuck ever.

I've been playing electric a year! I have a Dano and a shitty Peavey 15w modeling amp. Woop de do. I've also got about $400 kicking around that I've really wanted to spend. I'd like a bigger and better amp, but fuck that noise shit's expensive, so instead I have been drooling over the WMD Geiger Counter pedal. IS THIS RESPONSIBLE OF ME GUITAR THREAD?

get a POD. I have a 50w tube-amp and I recently bought a pod xt. Guess which i like the most.


Hint: It's small and red.
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Post by: Radical AC on 03 Sep 2010, 12:58
My friend self medicated his crappy amp with pedals for years, and it never quite fixed his tone.  Then he finally shelled out for a 410 DeVille (same amp I have, coincidence? actually yes, but still) and sounds worlds better.  Still, in the end it all depends on the sound you are going after.
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Post by: glyphic on 03 Sep 2010, 14:18
Sovtek has some cheap heads with some monstrous tone. I picked up a Mig-50 and a vintage Ampeg 4X12 for $500 on craigslist.

The Fender Devilles are pretty rad, too. about $500 for those as well.
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Post by: Radical AC on 03 Sep 2010, 14:24
DeVilles run $800 new (or 1k for the Blues model)  The Delux is $600, but it was probably $500 before last year's Fender price hike.
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Post by: Melodic on 03 Sep 2010, 16:22
What exactly is a PodXT? Just a modeling preamp? And can anyone recommend amps under $400?
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Sep 2010, 17:20
What exactly is a PodXT? Just a modeling preamp? And can anyone recommend amps under $400?
It is a multi fx pedalboard, does amp modeling. etc.. I've been rocking the Pod X3Live for about 2 years. If I didn't have such a great amp rig I would just play it into the PA.
They just did a firmware upgrade. I got 12 new effects. But still I like having some tubes at the end of that signal chain.
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Post by: Melodic on 03 Sep 2010, 17:28
While that sounds like a great option to retain the modeling capabilities of my current amp, I'd still need something neat to plug it into, and I don't really have money for both.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Sep 2010, 05:57
The pods are great on their own for recording, practising and anything that doesn't require other people to hear you, like jams or gigging.
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Post by: J on 04 Sep 2010, 11:49
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG7mhJbGFUI

thoughts?
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Sep 2010, 13:02
Sovtek has some cheap heads with some monstrous tone. I picked up a Mig-50 and a vintage Ampeg 4X12 for $500 on craigslist.

I have a friend who picked up a MiG-60 which he plays through a 2x15. ANGRIEST FUCKING SOUND IN THE WORLD. It seriously sounds like two chainsaws trying to fucking kill each other.
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Post by: Lummer on 04 Sep 2010, 13:14
I'm gonna need one of those, then..
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Sep 2010, 13:46
The pods are great on their own for recording, practising and anything that doesn't require other people to hear you, like jams or gigging.

How, exactly? Headphones?
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Post by: Lummer on 04 Sep 2010, 13:47
yep. A decent pair of headphones, and adequate skills at dialing in tones can yield really good results.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Sep 2010, 16:49
I disagree. You can get good tones out of them live, into an amp or a PA. You just have to learn all the nuances. Which I'm STILL doing. I played two shows in GA that I thought my TT was dying on. It turns out the last time I was cleaning all the dust and road spit off the X3L I flipped the output switch to Line (instead of Amp). It sounded like a flatulent beaver having sex with a robot platypus. Just exactly like that. That is the biggest draw back. There are so many options. Really you need to self-limit. But I can go from one song skrank skrank fender sound to nice AC30 Top Boost in the next. It just seldom works out where you'd wanna do that in the same song. It's too unnatural sounding. Really hot lead sounds are hardest because it is so easy to get that fizzle-y sound instead of the godzilla shooting laser beams out her vagina that you want. Or whatever.
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Post by: Radical AC on 04 Sep 2010, 17:10
That is pretty much exactly what I mean with what you are going after.  Corgan recorded Mayonaise with a broken strat he found at a yard sale.  You can make absolutely crap gear work for a certain sound.  You'll probably never have the beautiful clean without some nice tubes, but if that isn't your style you can be just as creative with what you've got. 
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Sep 2010, 06:38
Yeah, when my Solid state Fender Princeton Chorus is at the end of the signal chain it sounds like poo. With the Tiny Terror = guitar gold. And I set my volume and gain to a clean Twin-ny sound. But I suspect if I RTFM I could use those stereo effects loops they way they were intended. But too many farking instrument cables for me. I'm using two now. Guitar ->Line6 ->Amp. You DO have to make sure the amp model is just so to get any mod or delay efx to sound properly rad. But I've noticed in the last firmware upgrade it is a bit easier. It's like they noticed that when you have your output set to "Front of Stack" the efx need to be a certain way to get any ballz.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Sep 2010, 16:42
FINE CHRIS, START A WHOLE THREAD ABOUT THE POST I MADE BEFORE I EVEN MADE IT

GOD
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Sep 2010, 16:58
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/pavement

I AM DOING THIS SO FUCKING HARD
When I saw that I thought about you. I was actually going to send you that. heh.

ahem, say goodbye to the Black Widow. I already got the replacement.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_-_XBoT8iDo4/TIQJiUZ5dxI/AAAAAAAAS3c/w8yGWv81lPY/s288/IMG00921-20100905-1704.jpg)
Same awesome neck as my other Nitefly. Only SSS w/ custom wound dimarzios and a chunkier maple body and basswood neck. It is 10 yrs older than the Nitefly I bought new and the frets look brand new. The neck has some scars but with the carbon fiber reinforcement it plays like brand new. I told guy I couldn't get any piezo sound and I got $300 off. Turns out in '96 they were passive and you need a stereo cord for that. No case. No trem bar. Trem is in the locked position. Don't think I'll do anything about any of those things but get a case. I'll probably never use the Fishmans.
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Post by: Bearer on 10 Sep 2010, 11:45
(http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr17/shanesby/guitars/minitele/scativarius/DSC07136.jpg) (http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/100136-scattervarius.html)
Violin Les Paul anyone?  This is a pretty excellent build thread.  The guy will be selling these too when he gets the prototype done.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Sep 2010, 17:34
Traded my hollowbody for a Danelectro U-1 with a vintage pickup.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc25/glyphic17/SDC12002.jpg)
I LIKE.
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Post by: Spluff on 10 Sep 2010, 17:53
(PIC)
Violin Les Paul anyone?  This is a pretty excellent build thread.  The guy will be selling these too when he gets the prototype done.

I never realized what the massive hole in my life was until I saw that guitar
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Post by: Spluff on 10 Sep 2010, 18:00
oh god he's got manatees living under his house, too

I am going to kill him and steal his identity
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Sep 2010, 07:03
(PIC)
Violin Les Paul anyone?  This is a pretty excellent build thread.  The guy will be selling these too when he gets the prototype done.

I never realized what the massive hole in my life was until I saw that guitar
Just, wow. Mohogany! One of my favorite woods.
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Sep 2010, 12:00
Holy fucking ghost, I'm only on page 9 of that thread because everything he does is just so goddamn mesmerizing to look at. Such a gorgeous instrument and such excellent work.

Dude doesn't even have a fucking bandsaw, he uses a hand saw and just cuts that bitch with muscle power.

That Scatter Lee guy is the fucking man.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Sep 2010, 12:18
He also posts a buncha threads on the TDPRI tele home depot (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/) which is an amazing, wonderful place to begin with. Scatter is just plain brilliant.
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Sep 2010, 15:48
Ugh, been to GC twice today. On a Saturday. I seriously would kill people if I worked there. The sound. The nattering douchebags that are always there playing and not buying anything. Anyway, Acoustic Black Widow is now for sale there. I don't regret it. F'ing sexy looker but the E strings sat too close to the outer edges of the neck and too many tuning issues. Plus I got the SSS Nitefly. I hate I didn't get to play it in last night's 1.5 hour set. But we were having such a good show I didn't want to rock the boat.
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Post by: Bearer on 12 Sep 2010, 22:41
(http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr17/shanesby/guitars/minitele/scativarius/DSC07414.jpg)

Damn, I can't wait till the hollow-body one is done.
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Post by: imapiratearg on 13 Sep 2010, 20:07
Can anybody recommend a particular drum machine?  I'm looking at getting one because knowing how to play to a click track is really handy and I could do early BTMI!-type stuff.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Sep 2010, 09:31
FENDER, A JAZZMASTER FOR UNDER $500?!?!?!??!?!?!??!

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Blackout-Jazzmaster-HH-Electric-Guitar?sku=H61569

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/9/2/752992.jpg)

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/9/3/752993.jpg)

!!!!!!
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Sep 2010, 17:41
o shit i would absolutely buy that
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Post by: greenMonkey on 14 Sep 2010, 20:32
I don't know, those are two of the least pretty Jazzmasters I've encountered.  If I ever get a Jazzmaster (I'd love one), it will be something like this:

(http://crestonguitars.com/images/Untitled_00018(2).jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Sep 2010, 20:58
Re-paint it using the money you saved
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Post by: Ballard on 16 Sep 2010, 19:57
I'm digging the black on sunburst look (and changing the black guard to a tortoiseshell one wouldn't be hard). What I'm not digging is the uncovered humbucker at the bridge, what the fuck?
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Sep 2010, 20:11
I don't know, those are two of the least pretty Jazzmasters I've encountered.  If I ever get a Jazzmaster (I'd love one), it will be something like this:

(pic)

Dogg, the one part where you and I disagree on that guitar is the Bigsby. Unless you think it looks wrong too, in which case, brofists all around.
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Post by: Ballard on 16 Sep 2010, 21:01
I generally stay away from signature models but holy shit the Elvis Costello Jazzmaster.

(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6360/51777g4.jpg)
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Post by: The Duke on 17 Sep 2010, 20:44
Scientists have confirmed that Elvis Costello is the classiest person alive.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2010, 05:58
Scientists have confirmed that Elvis Costello is the classiest person alive.
It's also in the Quran/Bible/Communist Manifesto/Waffle House Menu.
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Post by: edwinalink on 18 Sep 2010, 07:16
Ugh, been to GC twice today. On a Saturday. I seriously would kill people if I worked there. The sound. The nattering douchebags that are always there playing and not buying anything. Anyway, Acoustic Black Widow is now for sale there. I don't regret it. F'ing sexy looker but the E strings sat too close to the outer edges of the neck and too many tuning issues. Plus I got the SSS Nitefly. I hate I didn't get to play it in last night's 1.5 hour set. But we were having such a good show I didn't want to rock the boat.

I'd KILL to buy something. but the store never has more than six guitars for me.. and they usually list something like this.

Black Squier Strat,rancid Setup, bad wiring. nasty neck
Black Jackson Strat,...Forget about it.
Black Epiphone LP, massive fret buzz
Flamed Orange Epiphone LP, low output pickups, again, more fret buzz (Why? I've never heard a righty epiphone do this. but the last 3 lefty LP's ...Bzzzzzz)
Black Ibanez RG, I love the neck set up, but combine a cheap trem with an agathis body and I just feel like I'm 13.
Black Ibanez GRX, same as above

What I wouldn't give to be able to walk into a store. grab an ES-330-esque guitar, or an Ibanez Iceman. pay for it and leave.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Sep 2010, 08:23
Are you guys aware that Guitar Center does not give a shit about the customer shopping experience? If they did, they'd have people who gave a fuck about actually getting their repair jobs done.

There's really no excuse for 70% of a random sample of guitars from the Concord, CA store, regardless of brand, to have non-working pickups when I spent a summer procuring parts and completely replacing the electronics (including pickups) in my Squier. I had never soldered anything before in my entire life and I made it work.

There's also no reason for any guitar with an adjustable bridge and truss rod to ever, EVER have intonation or fret buzz issues when on the sale floor, unless the wood is warped beyond the threshold of the components' ability to correct it.
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Post by: edwinalink on 18 Sep 2010, 08:43
^exactly, when a Used Ibanez RG321 in a Mom and Pop store... is a better player than Guitar Center's new Fender American Standard Strat in EVERY regard.

I have to feel the jackwheat setting them up is partly to blame.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2010, 12:23
Well the GC's I don't think can or will do a setup. My experience has actually improved at teh local store. Of course we were there 3x last saturday. And back again today. They used to have a lot surlier crowd working there. And they have another company do all their repair work. When I was a kid the independent mom+pop stores were better. But sometime in the 90's they all started carrying crappy products at 1000% markup. It didn't take long for the super stores and internet to put an end to that.
I live in the #12 population center in the usa. There are 2 music instrument stores, GC and SamAss. I've gotten good and bad service in both places. If I feel I'm not treated well I'll either drive 100 miles or got to the internet. Also guys locally who are supposed to be "experts" at set up on instruments I wouldn't let do it. Fucking keep a bass or guitar for 3 weeks and then it comes back no better than before. I've learned to do a lot more myself. The J bass we brought home used the other week, came stock with one of the wires never having any solder on one of the volume pots. I just fixed it. Thing is a 2007. Probably been sold twice by GC. Someone should have taken that plate off. Meh, the pickups were crap anyway. Swapping those too.
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Post by: edwinalink on 18 Sep 2010, 14:44
I jusr feel really freakin stoked to have found a GOOD Luthier in my howetown. his price on labor is pretty dang liveable. and the products in his store are mostly used. but in fantastic Order.

How good?

He made my B.C. Rich Warlock PLAYABLE.

After I sold it to him, of course...
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Sep 2010, 08:37
That's like, "damn, my ex-girlfriend dropped all that weight and is dating a millionaire."
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Sep 2010, 16:56
that is EXACTLY what it was like... I waked in, noticed he had put it out for sale... picked it off the rack, perfect action, actual tone adjustments from the tone knob. the neck was stiff again.

Damn it.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Sep 2010, 22:27
Simple stuff to do if you know what to do with a soldering iron, neck shims, and a hex wrench.
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Post by: Lummer on 20 Sep 2010, 00:25
Dear guitar thread.

(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/world/product_news/pages/2010/Showcase2010/Xiphos/XPT1400TW.png)

...
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Sep 2010, 03:34
If I ever start an old-time country band, I want one of those.  :-P
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Sep 2010, 10:13
Why did that need to be made

I mean really are you going to tune the 6-string neck to something ridiculous (GAEGAE, DADFAG, etc.) and have the 7-string neck be in standard? That is really the only use I see for having a 6/7 doubleneck.
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Post by: Noff on 20 Sep 2010, 11:47
...that actually sounds more useful than the normal 6 and 12 string setup...
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Post by: glyphic on 20 Sep 2010, 13:23
GAEGAE, DADFAG
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Sep 2010, 18:03
If I ever start an old-time country band, I want one of those.  :-P

Agreed.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 20 Sep 2010, 19:38
for country it should also have a b-bender

a locking, floyd rose b-bender
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Post by: Akima on 20 Sep 2010, 20:24
Dear guitar thread...
Wow! That is actually a real thing? I thought it was a Photoshop joke until I read the following posts.
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Post by: Lummer on 21 Sep 2010, 02:33
It's a special edition release by Ibanez.

Seeing as my band plays sixers in C# and 7's/baritones i G#, then this thing makes perfect sense in a practical way.
It still looks like ass though.
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Post by: Melodic on 21 Sep 2010, 14:36
Dude, it's a 6/7 double-neck Ibanez guitar. In no way does "practical" factor into it.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Sep 2010, 15:04
I want to hear Junior Brown play polkas on it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Sep 2010, 15:06
It'd almost make sense if the 6 was a baritone.

Almost.
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Post by: Radical AC on 21 Sep 2010, 16:31
The only way it ever made sense to me is to grow an extra arm.  Double necks are the Nintendo 64 controllers of the guitar world.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Sep 2010, 10:53
IMO, it would be more practical as a 7/7 or a 7/14, for me anyway

Also, Radical, Doublenecks are for live performances.

Also II

Dear guitar thread.

(http://www.rondomusic.net/photos/electric/pendulumpro7rnnat1.jpg)


GAS!
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Sep 2010, 11:11
Fanned out frets just scream prententious douche to me.

No offence to you, man.
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Sep 2010, 11:38
I want to hear Junior Brown play polkas on it.

He's just doing his job, he's the Highway Patrol.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Sep 2010, 12:29
Fanned out frets just scream prententious douche to me.

No offence to you, man.

But they're so comfy :-(

Also blah blah tension
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Sep 2010, 12:45
Gentlemen, check this out:
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/squier-strat-e3-rm-eng.jpg)

That's one of the new Rockband 3 guitars.  It's a Stratocaster with a single coil and piezo pickup and a midi controller.  You can plug it into an amp.  It's a legit guitar.  Along with the new drums and keyboard, expert on pro mode will give you a 1:1 ratio of what you are hearing and what you are playing.

I am pretty excited about this.  I have friends who only started playing guitar/bass because of rock band in the first place.  Also, it's about time everyone in the "It's just a game, go learn to play for real" camp finally shut up.
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Sep 2010, 15:33
Oh man dude my friends already get pissed at me for beating them on Rock Band, what benefit does this possibly have for my social life. They just made the fucking game easier.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Sep 2010, 17:22
Rockband, and American Idol, two things that make me appreciate Karaoke.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Sep 2010, 07:59
Rockband: Meshuggah would be the only thing that would make me want to buy this stuff. I already have like seven guitars, a lute and a uke already. The last thing i need is a pseudo-midi toy guitar. (I already have a guitar hero controller as well).

I'd rather just buy the guts of one, and make a project out of it.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 23 Sep 2010, 10:59
It's a Squier, we may be using the term "legit guitar" a bit liberally. I'd rather buy the other pro mode guitar that has 6 buttons on every fret and has a midi output.
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Sep 2010, 12:31
The one above does have a midi output.  That's how it and the new keyboard thing connect with the game.  There's a video somewhere of a guy playing the game with the guitar also plugged into an amp.

Also, squire has had some pretty quality stuff coming out recently.  the classic vibes series guits are, by all accounts, pretty damn good for their price range.
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Post by: E. Spaceman on 23 Sep 2010, 18:20
Reiterating that Rockband: Can is the world's most needed game.
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Post by: glyphic on 23 Sep 2010, 20:22
Rockband: Burning Witch
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Post by: Lummer on 24 Sep 2010, 00:31
Rockband: Meshuggah would be the only thing that would make me want to buy this stuff. I already have like seven guitars, a lute and a uke already. The last thing i need is a pseudo-midi toy guitar. (I already have a guitar hero controller as well).

I'd rather just buy the guts of one, and make a project out of it.


I like the idea of a whole generation of kids learning drums from Tomas Haake.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Sep 2010, 09:26
It's a Squier, we may be using the term "legit guitar" a bit liberally. I'd rather buy the other pro mode guitar that has 6 buttons on every fret and has a midi output.

Squier make some quality fucking shit, thank you.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Sep 2010, 09:56


I like the idea of a whole generation of kids learning drums from Tomas Haake.

The world needs more polymeter.

And the newer squiers are actually pretty great for the price as long as you get them set up well.
(And a pickup swap, a refret, and a nut change etc.)
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Post by: Christophe on 24 Sep 2010, 12:29
Hey Guitar Thread,

Tell me which amp I need to save for. I want a tube combo amp with two channels, between 40w and 20w, a single 12" speaker, and won't break $800.

Do I:

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/7/1/0/680710.jpg)
Blackstar HT-40 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Blackstar-Venue-Series-HT-Club-40-40W-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=423768)

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/6/9/9/680699.jpg)
Blackstar HT-20 (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Blackstar-Venue-Series-HT-Studio-20-20W-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=423766)

or

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/3/8/3/592383.jpg)
Marshall Haze 40w (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Marshall-Haze-MHZ40C-40W-1x12-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=581910)

Anyone have any experience with any of these amps? Let me know!
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Sep 2010, 14:55
I demoed the HT-40 awhile ago and really liked it.
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Post by: Ballard on 24 Sep 2010, 23:22
I'd go with this one. If you crank the tubes you'll get a fantastic fucking growl out of it.

(http://ipaintmymind.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/black-star-self-titled-cover.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Sep 2010, 02:56
Heh.

However, I have that record and it is really, really SO good!
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Post by: Zingoleb on 27 Sep 2010, 09:58
Fanned out frets just scream prententious douche to me.

No offence to you, man.

What exactly is the bonus of fanned frets? It just looks like it would fuck up the notes.
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Post by: Radical AC on 27 Sep 2010, 10:08
It's supposed to be more ergonomic since your wrist is on an axis, your hand fans, blah blah ect.  Maybe if you started learning on one before you picked up a standard guitar, don't use a capo, and aren't a fan of slides you can start to pretend it is better.  Sort of like people that use Dvorak instead of QWERTY, but fuck those people.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Sep 2010, 13:10
It's supposed to be more ergonomic since your wrist is on an axis, your hand fans, blah blah ect.  Maybe if you started learning on one before you picked up a standard guitar, don't use a capo, and aren't a fan of slides you can start to pretend it is better.  Sort of like people that use Dvorak instead of QWERTY, but fuck those people.

Supposed to be more ergonomic? The one fanned-fret guitar i've played is easily the most comfortable piece(s) of wood ive ever played, although Blackmachines are kind of awesome in general. Also it gives you both the benefits of standard scale and extended (27", 28,625", 30") regarding string tension for all your djent needs.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 27 Sep 2010, 13:37
It's a special edition release by Ibanez.

Seeing as my band plays sixers in C# and 7's/baritones i G#, then this thing makes perfect sense in a practical way.
It still looks like ass though.
I know this is an old post, but I was thinking something similar. 7 string in standard or every string but b up a whole step (BEADGBE or BF#BEAC#F#) and 6 in drop C (CDCFAC) and you have the ability to play in standard, b/drop b, and drop c with only minor retuning and no intonation worries.

I would rather have two guitars, though.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Sep 2010, 07:13
I tune one of my guitars to drop b, and another in drop Db. I've also ordered some 14-62 sets. I find this weird since i like playing in e standard as well. I suppose it works as an excuse to get more guitars. I've probably spent 5000$ on guitars and gear, and i'm only 16. Fuck my expensive hobby and my disjointed-ass posts.
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Post by: jeph on 30 Sep 2010, 22:10
LET'S JUST TACKLE THIS WHOLE PAGE AT ONCE

doubleneck ibanez: LIKE GETTING TWO SHITTY HANDJOBS AT ONCE

fanned frets: ABSOLUTELY USELESS IF YOU BEND NOTES AT ALL EVER WHICH ***EVERY GUITARIST ON THE PLANET SHOULD DO AT LEAST SOMETIMES***

blackstar shit: WHY SPEND MONEY ON SHITTY CHINESE AMPS WHEN YOU COULD BUY A LINE 6 POD THAT SOUNDS BETTER seriously dudes if you're playing live and can't afford a Marshall/Fender or better, just run a POD into the PA
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Post by: jeph on 30 Sep 2010, 22:15
Been thinking about swapping parts on my Lakland. I realized the other day my nut is plastic, and i'd prefer aluminum or brass. The pickups, they're Bartolini humbuckers which aren't bad but I feel like I could find hotter/better-sounding ones. The new pickups Lakland puts in their hollowbodies, the Chi-Sonics, sound nice. Darkstars are too expensive.

Want a new bridge. It's not bad, but again, I feel like I could get something better. Also last time my E string broke (when i break a string it's without fail the E) it unwound where the string meets the saddle, this is usually where it breaks. I wouldn't be surprised if the bridge had something to do with it? iono. Any suggestions for these 3 things?

Okay A) how the cunt do you break a string on a bass. there is something SEVERELY WRONG WITH YOUR INSTRUMENT if you are breaking your thickest string.

the material your nut is made of DOESN'T MATTER. it's an ELECTRIC BASS. the pickups and onboard electronics and amp you use matter. the wood in your bass MAYBE matters. whether your nut is plastic or bone or unicorn dick-fiber doesn't matter.

Bartolinis are like EMGs for hippies, and like EMGs they sound sterile and boring. but since you're playing an active-electronics Lakland you're kind of screwed anyway.


basically the solution is to sell your Lakland and buy a nice G&L or similar passive-electronics fender-style bass.
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Post by: Ballard on 30 Sep 2010, 22:47
blackstar shit

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/2536/609talibkweli.jpg)

don't hate
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Post by: jeph on 30 Sep 2010, 22:50
dude is a much better rapper than those are amps  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Christophe on 30 Sep 2010, 23:54
The Blackstar doesn't matter much anymore, I'm getting a Traynor TS-50 soon! Go Canadian amplification!
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Post by: doombilly on 01 Oct 2010, 03:55
Bartolinis are like EMGs for hippies...
MIKE WATT!
heh, actually I have to agree. I thought the Quad Coils on Maria's Growler were gonna sound great but < Fender P-bass x10^6. Also the Hwy 1 models are a great deal. The Am Std seem more hit/miss. The jazz pickups should be called "for demo purposes - replace asap."
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Post by: The Duke on 01 Oct 2010, 14:29
dude is a much better rapper than those are amps  :mrgreen:

agreed

(actually I've never tried the amps, but they would have to be excellent to match him)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Oct 2010, 15:37

 USELESS IF YOU BEND NOTES AT ALL EVER WHICH ***EVERY GUITARIST ON THE PLANET SHOULD DO AT LEAST SOMETIMES***



Uhm... You've never played a Fanned-fret instrument, have you?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 03 Oct 2010, 12:17
SOB!!

I loved this guitar.


(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/Braindrool/2010-10-03_15-09-02_141.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Oct 2010, 12:31
OUCH!

I'm so sorry for your loss, man. I still don't understand how Gibson can get away with not scarf-jointing their necks, have you asked around for luthier to fix it yet?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 03 Oct 2010, 12:35
Holy crap that's not even at the neck/headstock transition. How did that happen?
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 03 Oct 2010, 12:39
Left in the trunk of a volkswagen eos when the convertible top was put down.

Bye bye 30 year old "The Paul" deluxe.
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Post by: The Duke on 03 Oct 2010, 17:33
A moment of silence, please.
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Oct 2010, 00:32
I wanna buy an SG! Gimme tips!
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Post by: glyphic on 04 Oct 2010, 06:19
I wanna buy an SG! Gimme tips!

Don't leave it in the trunk of a Volkswagen Eos when the convertible top is put down.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Oct 2010, 11:33
I wanna buy an SG! Gimme tips!

Tip: Get an SG then, mang
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Post by: Nodaisho on 04 Oct 2010, 12:05
Tip: get an Australian schoolboy outfit. Maybe Dovey can hook you up.
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Post by: brew on 04 Oct 2010, 16:36
Has anyone here tried Amplitube?  How does it compare with a POD?
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Oct 2010, 16:54
Hey guys remember when I posted that thing about my friend's Musicman HD130 head?

I've been using it lately for playing bass in the band we started. It does not overdrive when you crank it.

It fuzzes. It fuzzes like there is no tomorrow. A beautiful, deep, throaty fuzz. Words barely begin to describe it.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Oct 2010, 21:00
Tip: get an Australian schoolboy outfit. Maybe Dovey can hook you up.

I dunno what people have been telling you about my proclivities but, uh, they're wrong
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Post by: edwinalink on 17 Oct 2010, 00:27
I'm not a Gibson fan. like... at all...

But the SG has got to have my favorite neck contour/joint.

but I hate how it looks.

that is a damn impossible neck type to find on any other guitar.
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Post by: Ballard on 17 Oct 2010, 23:59
Sucks for you.

I love the neck on SGs but I also love how they look.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2010, 14:12
Yeah wait, how do you not like the looks of an SG?

That'd be like saying an Aston DB9 is hideous.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Oct 2010, 14:23
I concur.

I am pretty I will fight anyone who does not recognise how rockin' an SG is.
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Oct 2010, 00:55
I honestly love the construction on SG's, the neck shape. how thin the body is. the whole thing just handles like a damn good time.

but for some Odd reason the Aesthetics never worked for me. And I'm a guy who likes Iceman's, Explorers and Warlocks. why I can't go for it... is totally beyond me.

One day I will have a Luthier custom build my dream guitar. it will feel like an SG but look like an Iceman.

I didn't say my tastes made sense... they just... are...
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Post by: StaedlerMars on 19 Oct 2010, 04:49
Guys, I want to start learning how to play with a slide, but I have no idea how. How?
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Oct 2010, 07:43
I've been using a flint plectrum for ages now. It's still not something I can do uber-fast deathmetal trem-picking with, around 200-plus bpm, but for everything else it's awesome. I just have to train more speed with it now, because it's waaaay heavier.

Metal picks I've tried, but they didn't work for me at all. Wore down too quick.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Oct 2010, 09:19
And I'm a guy who likes... Warlocks.

There's your problem.
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Post by: edwinalink on 19 Oct 2010, 10:37
And I'm a guy who likes... Warlocks.

There's your problem.

To be fair I've never held a B.C. Rich that didn't feel like shit. but I think its a damn good looking guitar.

Needs to be painted like.... hot pink...
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Post by: Nodaisho on 19 Oct 2010, 17:37
There is a dark wine red Gibson Les Paul Studio going for $499 at my local store. I wish I could afford that. Needs new strings though. Either has .10s or .9s on it right now.
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Post by: Christophe on 19 Oct 2010, 20:52
Speaking of strings, can anyone comment on what it's like to go from .11s to .12s? I've had the new strings for about two months and I can bend on them really well. Is it time to go full-bore?
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Post by: Lummer on 20 Oct 2010, 00:13
It makes you more of a man.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 20 Oct 2010, 00:48
I need to go up to 12s next time I buy strings, I've got one more set. .12s stay in tune better when down-tuned compared to .11s, right? I want to be tuning to drop-C a lot.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Oct 2010, 07:13
I think a few companies make "low tune" strings that are like... .13s.
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Post by: The Duke on 20 Oct 2010, 09:39
Guys, I want to start learning how to play with a slide, but I have no idea how. How?

Please answer this guy because I am in the same boat as him.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Oct 2010, 09:40
Listen to RL Burnside and Junior Kimbrough. Tune your guitar to some open tuning (preferably G or E)

And just kinda go from there.
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Post by: Radical AC on 20 Oct 2010, 16:33
Check youtube videos.  I've learned so much from watching youtube tutorials it's ridiculous.  Morse code, gun stripping, how to program my microKORG, ect.
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Post by: Christophe on 22 Oct 2010, 13:24
Hey dickcocks, guess what I've been raging through since about a week and a half ago:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/PA220907.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/PA220906.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/PA220905.jpg)

Plug in a guitar, turn the amp way up and it's crunchy post-hardcore bliss. Plug in a bass and you can be a little bit like Bob Weston or David Wm. Sims.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 22 Oct 2010, 23:15
I had that exact amp model for about a year, got it for super cheap.  I never could get it to sound the way I wanted, even with pedals.  I bet it's great for bass though.
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Post by: Melodic on 25 Oct 2010, 16:08
My Geiger Counter finally arrived, so I'm picking it up tomorrow. It + my very borrowed Fender Twin is going to be so fun.
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Post by: Kwaping on 27 Oct 2010, 10:13
Hi everyone,

I'm brand new to these forums (though I've finally read all QC comics from 1-current). I've only been playing guitar for a year or so, but I already have a bad case of GAS. Here's my current setup:

Ibanez AS73 (cherry finish), retrofitted with a Bigsby -> Empress tremolo -> Fat Sandwich -> HardWired Reverb -> Blues Junior (soon to be tube-swapped)

I freakin' LOVE that Empress tremolo. I would give up every piece of gear I own before I'd give that up.

That's it for now...
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2010, 13:11
a) Is the AS73 the 335 clone, or that funky as all hell flat top semi-hollow with the Danelectro vibe?

b) Nice choice on 'verb.
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Post by: Kwaping on 27 Oct 2010, 14:08
Thanks! The AS73 is a semi-hollow. It looks exactly like the one on this page but not left-handed: http://www.ibanez.com/HollowBodyGuitars/model-AS73L (http://www.ibanez.com/HollowBodyGuitars/model-AS73L)

The Bigsby retrofit was awesome. I went with a Vibramate (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003B1PETC?ie=UTF8&tag=kwap-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003B1PETC) so I didn't have to drill new holes. It looks and plays great!

Thanks for the props on the reverb. I initially tried a blueSky Reverberator and was very unimpressed (I was going for a surf sound). This one really hits the spot - versatile with a great spring reverb.
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Post by: edwinalink on 27 Oct 2010, 22:26
(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2249/red1a.jpg)

Kisekei gives me a hard on.

I am so totally building this.

Resale value is for Pussies.

I needs me a guitar that everyone but me thinks is retarded.

RETARDEDLY AWESOME.
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Post by: glyphic on 28 Oct 2010, 10:23
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/2030267688.html (http://stlouis.craigslist.org/msg/2030267688.html)

HORK.
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Post by: Melodic on 28 Oct 2010, 11:14
what an ugly piece of shit of a guitar
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Post by: Melodic on 28 Oct 2010, 11:15
is $275 too much to spend on a mercy killing?
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Oct 2010, 11:20
It looks like someone made a Fender Katana more hideous.
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Post by: Radical AC on 28 Oct 2010, 11:25
Looks like a crappy Burns Flyte (http://www.vintage-guitars.se/1974-1977_Burns_Flyte.htm).

I guess there are people that think they are doing the world a favor by tracking down and destroying nazi memorabilia, so I guess the same could be done for ugly guitars from defunct companies.

Also, seller doesn't know what single coils are.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Oct 2010, 13:05
Hey guys. NGD for meeeeee!
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/LeifMT/DSC_0318.jpg?t=1288296248)(http://)

Used Carvin 727.
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Post by: Kwaping on 28 Oct 2010, 14:30
Congrats on the new guitar! I hope you get lots of time to play it soon. :)

Melodic, that Geiger Counter is insane. I'm not even sure what kind of "music" a person would make with it.
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Post by: Melodic on 28 Oct 2010, 16:18
It actually does some fairly normal distortion effects if you play around with it, but the temptation to fuck the sound up so so much with math is too much to ignore.
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Post by: Lummer on 29 Oct 2010, 00:42
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Firebird/Gibson-USA/Firebird-X.aspx

What the fuck, Gibson...

What the FUCK
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Oct 2010, 01:11
Oh God
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 29 Oct 2010, 05:18
Nice Carvin btw.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2010, 05:43
Gibson, how on earth do you ruin one of the greatest guitars ever?

What the fuck. I just lost faith in humanity.
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Post by: glyphic on 29 Oct 2010, 06:20
Gibson is going for the 1950's of the future look.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Oct 2010, 09:30
Five Thousand Five Hundred and Seventy Dollars
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2010, 10:27
I wouldn't pay $5.75 for it.
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Post by: Kwaping on 29 Oct 2010, 11:33
But... but... it's got sports car looks, feel, AND performance!

How can you possibly argue with that?!?  SPORTS CAR, people.

Sports.

Car.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Oct 2010, 11:36
There are shitty sports cars.
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Oct 2010, 11:48
My Firebird is crying.  It is crying so very very much.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/Guitars/IMG_0988.jpg)

See?  Gibson, how could you make it so sad?  For shame...
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Post by: edwinalink on 29 Oct 2010, 12:18
Compared to the Firebird X and that  Switch... my Partscaster is Damn sexy... as is that REAL Firebird....

Gibson just died for me.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Oct 2010, 13:12
So, seeing as Gibson keep making the fuckers, am I to assume that people are buying the ever-shittier procession of robot guitars that they keep putting out?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 29 Oct 2010, 13:51
Bearer, the fact that your Firebird is on satin sheets just makes me want to have passionate sex with it all the more.
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Oct 2010, 15:35
Nearly 6 Grand for that? How much for no skid marks on the fret board?
That red partscaster looks like the project I envisioned for my red MIM Tele. But I decided (a/k/a did have any money) to just fix the 1 problem (shite bridge) and it's great. But I love the red-a-caster with a black pickguard. That's what I wanted to do. Party on.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 29 Oct 2010, 16:21
Here is a video  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhyWlF6tWig&feature=player_embedded)of that steaming pile of crap, turns out aside from being as ugly as twelve dicks and packed full of useless shit no one will ever have a good reason to use ever it is also actually the size of a fucking Guitar Hero controller
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Oct 2010, 16:31
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Firebird/Gibson-USA/Firebird-X.aspx

What the fuck, Gibson...

What the FUCK

"Incite an uprising" indeed.
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Post by: Radical AC on 29 Oct 2010, 17:55
Gibson is going for the 1950's of the future look.

I wouldn't put that thing on my fallout character.  I would pay 5.75 for it, and then put a bag over the body.  I mean it probably sounds fine... not 6 grand fine, but fine.

I also totally want the gieger counter.  There are a lot of pedals I actually need more than it, but damn that thing is like a pedal nerds wet dream.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 29 Oct 2010, 19:36
bearer stop showing me that firebird, or at least show me where i can get that exact one in canada.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 30 Oct 2010, 12:20
re: Gibtard XBird.... Also you could get 2 of these and have enough money to start a meth lab/daycare center up.
http://www.kauerguitars.com/store?page=shop.browse&category_id=1
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Post by: David_Dovey on 30 Oct 2010, 12:26
Yes but then wouldn't I have to tune my own guitar? And what if I wanted to control software with my guitar for some incomprehensible reason?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 30 Oct 2010, 12:28
If you're going to be dropping over 5 grand on a guitar, go get a luthier to make you something special.
Case and point Gil Yaron (http://destroyallguitars.com/gil-yaron/3540-gil-yaron-1958-1960-burst-replicas), whose vintage Les Paul replica's quality is pretty much superior in every way to anything Gibson has ever done since the 50's.

Or follow Jeph's example and go get a Creston (http://crestonguitars.com/guitars/detail.php?id=143).


Also, my Firebird VII was got used at a Guitar Center, of all places, for half list due to some minor paint blemishes.  The pickup selector needs to be replaced, and I plan on fiddling with the electronics a bit, but otherwise it's so fucking great.  I've got 13's on it and have it tuned and intonated to D standard tuning.  It was a rare color to begin with, and now Gibson has discontinued the model (apparently in favor of this new fresh hell).
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Oct 2010, 13:04
Gil Yaron (http://destroyallguitars.com/gil-yaron/3540-gil-yaron-1958-1960-burst-replicas),
This dude posts on the TDPRI and his threads break down his builds step by step and it's incredible.

At under 5 grand you could go all the way and get an Electrical (http://www.electricalguitarcompany.com/) custom-built for you.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Nov 2010, 12:27
Gil Yaron (http://destroyallguitars.com/gil-yaron/3540-gil-yaron-1958-1960-burst-replicas),
This dude posts on the TDPRI and his threads break down his builds step by step and it's incredible.

At under 5 grand you could go all the way and get an Electrical (http://www.electricalguitarcompany.com/) custom-built for you.
Those things are ace. I've seen King Buzzo playing one of those and two of the dudes from Isis.  Always wondered what they were.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 Nov 2010, 18:37
Bartolinis are like EMGs for hippies, and like EMGs they sound sterile and boring. but since you're playing an active-electronics Lakland you're kind of screwed anyway.

I know the Bartolini family. I worked with the owner's son at Home Depot. I told him the same thing and he got annoyed. I think maybe that's why I got fired.

Also Shane warned me not to look for anything to do with that Firebird X and I should've fucking listened, now I want to throw things at their R&D dep't head's head.
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Post by: Ballard on 03 Nov 2010, 19:04
Hey Pat:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/career-limiting_move
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Post by: PintsizesBloodyCock on 03 Nov 2010, 20:24
(http://imgur.com/Yw55Ol.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Yw55O.jpg)

My baybeh. Gibson SG Special Faded. Bought it cause of the finish -- so slick on the neck, looks fine after I clumsily whack it against anything and everything. Stripped out the stock pickups, bridge and tailpiece, and the shitty tuners; put in SD 59 and Alnico II Pro pickups, and TonePros bridge, tailpiece and tuners. Plays like a fucking dream.

What are all of you running for amps? Guitars are nice, but I'm a total amp slut.
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Post by: Ballard on 03 Nov 2010, 21:25
Excellent guitar.

P.S. If you aspire to a future which involves posting on this forum regularly, I strongly suggest you change your username.
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Post by: Spluff on 03 Nov 2010, 21:58
No way, keep it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 Nov 2010, 23:13
BloodyCock (I firmly believe you should at least keep THIS part), get a Blues Junior

Discussion over
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Post by: Radical AC on 04 Nov 2010, 00:15
My favorite guitar store just went out of business.  Now there is no point to being in Idaho for any reason. 

Idaho: No boutique guitars.  (New: now with 100% Republican representation!)  Fuck My State.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Nov 2010, 05:47
Also Shane warned me not to look for anything to do with that Firebird X and I should've fucking listened, now I want to throw things at their R&D dep't head's head.

A) I warned you, bitch. It's your fault you didn't listen.

B) new Dano U2 reissues. Some with bottle headstocks, some with dolphin headstocks...one with a dual-lipstick humbucker...

As much as I need to get a bass of my own, a Dano U2 is one of my dream guitars, and that copper one looks awesome.

http://danelectro.com/gtr_56_copper.html

http://danelectro.com/gtr_56_red.html

http://danelectro.com/gtr_56_whitegold.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 04 Nov 2010, 06:41
God damn why are danelectros so fucking awesome?

I've been completely neglecting all my instruments lately just to play my U1. In fact, I'm jamming with someone new tonight and that's the only guitar I'm bringing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: PintsizesBloodyCock on 04 Nov 2010, 07:07
P.S. If you aspire to a future which involves posting on this forum regularly, I strongly suggest you change your username.

I won't lie, this surprised me. Have I committed a QC faux-pas? Would YellingBirdsBloodyCloaca be more appropriate?

BloodyCock (I firmly believe you should at least keep THIS part), get a Blues Junior

Discussion over

They're pretty sweet amps, almost pulled the trigger on one of the tweed ones with the Jensen in it -- more tone than $600 should buy anyone. I assume you've checked out the new Vox AC4? It's a great amp at any price, absolutely mind blowing for $300.

For my low-watt fix, I bought a Traynor YCV15. Sounds like a modern Marshall trapped in the chassis of an AC30.

My main one, however, is a Marshall DSL50. Refined and subtle it will never be, but it fucking rawks unlike any other amp I can afford.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Nov 2010, 07:09
Most of us don't even read the comic anymore. Those weirdos hand out in QCD.

And dude, the AC4TV is epic. I tried one out in a store in April and loved it.
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Post by: Christophe on 04 Nov 2010, 09:19
What are all of you running for amps?
Hey dickcocks, guess what I've been raging through since about a week and a half ago:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/PA220907.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/PA220906.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/PA220905.jpg)

Plug in a guitar, turn the amp way up and it's crunchy post-hardcore bliss. Plug in a bass and you can be a little bit like Bob Weston or David Wm. Sims.

Yeah it's like a page ago but fuck it, the amp is awesome.
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Post by: Radical AC on 04 Nov 2010, 13:57
I run a Hotrod DeVille 410 (in blonde  :-D) It is perfect right now, and loud.  I've been cheating on it with an Orange AD30 at the guitar center and want one of those to run parallel soon.

Also, does anyone have much experience with the 4 way switch teles that you can run the pickups in series?  I'm close to a new guitar purchase and have been eyeing the G&L Bluesboy for a while, but a 4 way switch could give me more diversity.  Related: The American Deluxe Teles with S-1 switching, anyone play one of these?
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Post by: Bearer on 04 Nov 2010, 14:02
I've currently got my sights set on this little all tube 15watt baby.  Clean sounds are pretty gorgeous, rather Pink Floydy if the guy from Gilmourish.com (http://www.gilmourish.com/) has anything to say about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23wx_w_UYyY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23wx_w_UYyY)
(http://www.keymusic.com/gfx_productcode/115185/2/Laney-CUB12R.jpg) (http://www.laney.co.uk/show_prod.php?prod=cub12r)
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Post by: Lupercal on 04 Nov 2010, 15:21
So in all this amp talk - is it worth getting a Epiphone Valve Junior Head/Cab? I stay away usually from Epiphone but seems simple and affordable. I just need something better than a practice amp really. At the moment I'm playing through my dad's vintage (70s) AC30, but as its such a relic I won't gig with it. Although there is the new AC30VR.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Nov 2010, 18:16
Get an AC15. More defined, articulate sound than a 30. AC30s are great, don't get me wrong, but I like 15s so much better for that reason and their lighter weight. And I mean seriously. 12" speaker and 15w of tube power doesn't sound like much to a solid-stater, but it's more than enough for anybody to play in a small venue. Any venue large enough for more than 50 people is going to have a PA with which you can mic yr amp anyway.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 04 Nov 2010, 21:53
I run a Hotrod DeVille 410 (in blonde  :-D) It is perfect right now, and loud.  I've been cheating on it with an Orange AD30 at the guitar center and want one of those to run parallel soon.

Also, does anyone have much experience with the 4 way switch teles that you can run the pickups in series?  I'm close to a new guitar purchase and have been eyeing the G&L Bluesboy for a while, but a 4 way switch could give me more diversity.  Related: The American Deluxe Teles with S-1 switching, anyone play one of these?

BLUESBOY.  God I love mine.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Nov 2010, 10:27
Dick.
(http://www.cranesmusicstore.com/images/tinyterror_big.jpg)
Butts.
Been working on a lot of new stuff with the wife/bassist. So I have not been pluggin in the PODboard and just grabbing a guitar, jacking into the lil bastard. I think if I had the channel switching TT I probably would sell the PODX3Live at this point.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2010, 10:54
I love that the bass version of that is FIVE HUNDRED WATTS.

Also, it is aptly named, simply "Terror".
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Post by: Ballard on 05 Nov 2010, 11:19
Related: The American Deluxe Teles with S-1 switching, anyone play one of these?

They look really pretty but play and feel decidedly mediocre unless you like your necks to feel like toothpicks.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Nov 2010, 14:25
I love that the bass version of that is FIVE HUNDRED WATTS.

Also, it is aptly named, simply "Terror".
I believe the new one is 1000w. I TRIED to get the wifey to give up the ampeg addiction for a Bass Terror. But the new ones weren't out and there were nne around. Now I'm stuck hauling an 8x10 and a classic head up rickety stairs. Because the stars want me to only get bookings in 2nd or 3rd floor gigs sans elevator. /whining.
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Post by: Ballard on 05 Nov 2010, 15:10
Yeesh that's balls.

As nice as Ampegs are.

Perhaps the Sunn O))) guys wear their robes to conceal their immaculately sculpted, muscular bodies.
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Post by: Radical AC on 05 Nov 2010, 23:56
I always liked the feel of Teles, they always felt pretty solid to me.  Of course I switch between a Dano Pro which is super light and tiny and my Rickenbacker 350 with is like a Louisville Slugger with strings.  I'll probably still end up going with the G&L with custom ordering options from Proguitarshop. 
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Post by: Kwaping on 06 Nov 2010, 07:57
I recently test drove a Fender American Special HSS strat and really liked it. Are there any good reasons I shouldn't get this guitar?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 06 Nov 2010, 08:52
Related: The American Deluxe Teles with S-1 switching, anyone play one of these?

They look really pretty but play and feel decidedly mediocre unless you like your necks to feel like toothpicks.

I played one in a store a while back, and i didn't like the thickness of the neck either, but the one i played was decidedly V-shaped, compared to regular teles. It still sounded like a tele though, and played like a japanese tele (prettty good). If you want a tele, don't go for one of these. Just get a MIJ or a regular Amurrikan one.
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Nov 2010, 20:27
of course you should.

(but i much prefer the dano 67s!)
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Post by: edwinalink on 07 Nov 2010, 00:29
I just read a two page thread on TheGearPage where these people ragged on this guy for liking an Agile... because clearly it could never hold a light to a "real" gibson.

It may be the fact that I've only played NEW Gibsons. but I think they're overpriced half-assed guitars.

I'd much rather take the Agile and hotrod it with the thousand bucks I saved... then give a company that can't seem to install Frets my money.

Screw brand Monkeys.
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Post by: Lupercal on 07 Nov 2010, 09:13
Get an AC15. More defined, articulate sound than a 30. AC30s are great, don't get me wrong, but I like 15s so much better for that reason and their lighter weight. And I mean seriously. 12" speaker and 15w of tube power doesn't sound like much to a solid-stater, but it's more than enough for anybody to play in a small venue. Any venue large enough for more than 50 people is going to have a PA with which you can mic yr amp anyway.

Thats a fair point, I never really considered a 15 now that I've been playing through the AC30. I mean its just so fucking awesome. Like Marshalls, Fender and Vox were meant to be partners.

Saying that, the Epiphone VJ is only 5 watts, although as I'm sort of "between bands" as it were I'm not in the market for anything huge. Run my 50s Reissue Strat through a Boss ME-50, thats pretty much all the effects and control I could ever need. So its all a matter of a great clean sound and something affordable (hence VJ as combo is about £190)

I just read a two page thread on TheGearPage where these people ragged on this guy for liking an Agile... because clearly it could never hold a light to a "real" gibson.

It may be the fact that I've only played NEW Gibsons. but I think they're overpriced half-assed guitars.

I'd much rather take the Agile and hotrod it with the thousand bucks I saved... then give a company that can't seem to install Frets my money.

Screw brand Monkeys.

I feel you, and I especially wouldn't want to put my money towards a company producing guitars like the Firebird X, Reverse Flying V or that horrible Hendrix fiasco they pretend never happened.

(says the guy wanting an Epiphone amp...facepalm)
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Nov 2010, 17:16
of course you should.

(but i much prefer the dano 67s!)
That one doesn't come with an intonatable bridge, though. I did see one hanging up in a local shop though, at something like 360 euros second hand. I may go in and give it a try, but buy it I will not.

360 Euros is way too expensive for a '67 reissue -- I got mine, new, for $420 CDN. Also don't let the bridge be a deciding factor, since you can buy an intonatable one for maybe 40 bucks.
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Post by: Ballard on 07 Nov 2010, 18:54
P.S. If you aspire to a future which involves posting on this forum regularly, I strongly suggest you change your username.

I won't lie, this surprised me. Have I committed a QC faux-pas? Would YellingBirdsBloodyCloaca be more appropriate?

Shane (valley_parade) hit the nail on the head. This board has become something of an independent community over the years, and a large majority of the posters haven't read the comic in about as long. Many of the folks who post here as an extension of reading the comic devote much attention to thinking up creepy slash fiction involving the QC cast which drives Jeph and everyone else crazy.

Consequently, it's better to develop an individual persona as a poster than be just another guy who makes QC dick jokes.
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Post by: Bearer on 07 Nov 2010, 19:23
(http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr17/shanesby/guitars/minitele/scativarius/DSC08523.jpg)
Holy damn, it's finished.

DO WANT
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Post by: Melodic on 07 Nov 2010, 20:20
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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Post by: Bearer on 07 Nov 2010, 20:53
Re-posting for page break
(http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr17/shanesby/guitars/minitele/scativarius/DSC08523.jpg)
Holy damn, it's finished.

DO WANT
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Post by: greenMonkey on 07 Nov 2010, 21:33
So that thread is amazing, and that is a truly wonderful guitar in the sense the it was lovingly handcrafted and much of it is quite aesthetically appealing, but I can't shake the feeling that it's so gimmicky (also I don't really like the body shape or the headstock shape).
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Post by: David_Dovey on 07 Nov 2010, 21:43
Prince should be playing that guitar (compliment? insult? who knows)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 07 Nov 2010, 23:05
I think it had the potential to be gimmicky but he pulled it off exceptionally well and the result is an elegant guitar that can stand on it's own.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Nov 2010, 01:08
I still wish he hadn't gone with that headstock. Gross.

The rest of it? HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY FUCK
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Post by: Spluff on 08 Nov 2010, 01:28
If you changed the headstock, dropped the tailpiece, and made it in dark mahogany that would be the Perfect Guitar.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 08 Nov 2010, 06:10
For some reason it reminds me of this: http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ESP-LTD-F350-Electric-Guitar?sku=584488#used
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Nov 2010, 08:21
Uhm..

(http://www.kouyougakki.co.jp/images/jeune_fille_x_bronze.jpg)
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Post by: Radical AC on 08 Nov 2010, 08:33
Ew, at least the DIY guy didn't have to resort to active pickups and a floyd rose.  It's kind of cool, I just think the violin look has been a bit overdone on electrics.  Though, this guy pulled it off better than most.  I'm pretty conservative with my electric guitars.  Give me some elegant lines, solid construction, and maybe an understated horn or two.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Nov 2010, 08:52
That violin thing does absolutely nothing for me. At all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 08 Nov 2010, 09:19
The horns on my 350 are really reasonable and gorgeous looking.  620's similarly so.  Never a huge fan of the 330 proportions, I think the 360 does it better.  I was referring more to the RG/superstrat look for what an out of proportion horn would be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Nov 2010, 10:34
Ew, at least the DIY guy didn't have to resort to active pickups and a floyd rose.  It's kind of cool, I just think the violin look has been a bit overdone on electrics.  Though, this guy pulled it off better than most.

He also built it using almost no power tools, which gives him my Testosterone Producer Of The Year award
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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Nov 2010, 10:55
Uhm..

(http://www.kouyougakki.co.jp/images/jeune_fille_x_bronze.jpg)


I cant stand this dudes fans... he is in no way (at least in my mind) a noteworthy artist... but his ignorant... I believe the term is "Weeaboo"  teen girl fans are like "HE'S SUCH AN ARTIST AND I LOVE HIM HE IS THE PERFECT MAN BECAUSE HE CROSSDRESSES AND LOOKS CONVINCINGLY LIKE A GIRL"

I don't even try anymore,to point out that raping a tremolo does not take skill.

its a losing battle. ignorant tone deaf goons will always be... Ignorant... tone deaf... GOONS.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 08 Nov 2010, 10:58
It'd help if you mentioned who the fuck that thing belongs to
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Nov 2010, 11:05
We also have to realize that ESP Japan makes some ridiculous-looking guitars, that included.

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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Nov 2010, 11:08
It'd help if you mentioned who the fuck that thing belongs to

Mana, of Moi Dix Mois.

guy in the middle

(http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/4218139/Moi+dix+Mois+DIXANADU99999935.jpg)

I've got no problem with crossdressers. I do have a problem with morons.

Edit_____________________________________________________________

P.S. I once saw a girl scream and Punch herself in the face when someone called that band "My Dicks Moist"

she then started crying and ran out of the store.

that was fun.
...I know... "Cool Story Bro"
  :|
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Post by: JD on 08 Nov 2010, 11:14
Whoa whoa whoa
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: JD on 08 Nov 2010, 11:15
I think that man will haunt my dreams tonight
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Nov 2010, 11:25
That actually is the best possible story that could come out of anything related to that band, man, don't be down on yourself
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Nov 2010, 12:04
Ew, at least the DIY guy didn't have to resort to active pickups and a floyd rose. 


Haters gonna hate...

Also that's a Kahler, not a floyd. Why don't you like floating trems? I'm a big fan of them, tuningstability-wise. Especially double-locking ones. Why the hate? Most of the people I've known that don't like them just don't know how set a guitar up. I don't use them at all, but they stay in tune so well that i prefer guitars with OFRs and Edges over fixed bridges (except the edge-fx, double-locking fixed bridge).
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Post by: Ballard on 08 Nov 2010, 17:42
Because an overwhelming majority of the people who own guitars with floating tremolos use them to go CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA WHEEDLY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BRRRRRRRRRRWOOOOOOOOOONG in a way that idly resembles a rhinoceros suffering from an anal prolapse.

P.S. lol visual kei

I've never heard of this band but I went to a high school that was 65% Chinese and Korean-American and Dir En Grey produced roughly the same effect there.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 08 Nov 2010, 17:49
Because an overwhelming majority of the people who own guitars with floating tremolos use them to go CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA WHEEDLY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BRRRRRRRRRRWOOOOOOOOOONG in a way that idly resembles a rhinoceros suffering from an anal prolapse.
How does a Rhinoceros suffer from Mr. Norris?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 08 Nov 2010, 19:54
Because an overwhelming majority of the people who own guitars with floating tremolos use them to go CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA WHEEDLY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BRRRRRRRRRRWOOOOOOOOOONG in a way that idly resembles a rhinoceros suffering from an anal prolapse.

This always makes me laugh, hating a type of instrument because it's used to make shitty music sometimes. Especially when you consider just how much pussy dad rock and dipshit country and weak ass indie and fake Satan-blowing "punk" and U2 songs and so on has been coming out of Telecasters and Les Paul Jrs and AC30s and Rickenbackers and Blues Deluxes and so on and on and on into infinity.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 08 Nov 2010, 20:09
Well I mean it depends on what yr idea of "amazing music" is but if you like metal, quite a lot. Horses for courses, doggo.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 08 Nov 2010, 20:20
I think the FR bridge is a needlessly complicated solution for something that isn't broke.  I see the point in them, but by that logic the robot guitar is its ultimate evolution and the pinnacle of luthier engineering.  You could put active pickups in a cat and have it sound the same as AAAAA solid mahogany. Kind of like using duct tape to hold something together.  It works, but it ain't pretty.  Now, I'm a firm believer that you can use pretty much whatever shitty gear you want and come up with something amazing.  But, active pickups run against most of my GAS tendencies and the reason I lust after beautiful and well built guitars.
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Post by: edwinalink on 08 Nov 2010, 23:52
I hate Floyds, with a passion.

Actually I hate anything Tremolo-esque at all.

But I'm not saying they're bad, quite the opposite.

I'm bad.

really bad.

At guitar.

and dealing with that thing... just makes me want to punch babies.

So I don't.

and yeah, Vis Kei fans Drive me nuts.

but the thing is... Dir En Gray is Actually a really inventive Metal Band, I'd never tell people this to their faces... but I'm a closet fan of those guys.

they're allowed to dress silly.

they've earned it.

Moi Dix Mois has not, they play/played cheesy, throaty half assed Atonal shit. they were never inventive they just banked on the ignorance of Little Girls who were terrified of penis.

Dir En Gray Actually has the Capacity to attract fans that can READ music. I respect that.

...

Wow... I used so many words... and Enters... to say so little....

the cliff notes? I ONLY HATE FLOYDS BECAUSE I SUCK AT GUITAR, DIR EN GREY IS A DECENT BAND  AND MOI DIX MOIS IS NOT.
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Post by: Melodic on 09 Nov 2010, 01:05
holy fuck your post
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 09 Nov 2010, 02:23
Yeahhhh.

Personally never really saw a problem with Floyds, but I'm pretty huge Van Halen fan so I mean, EVH had one of the first Floyds or whatever. Not that Kramers weren't horrible "super-strats" that died as soon as the 80s were over. I thought Steinberger trems were pretty cool in the way you can raise and lower the pitch of all strings at the same time, but personally I would never find a use for it.

Because an overwhelming majority of the people who own guitars with floating tremolos use them to go CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA WHEEDLY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BRRRRRRRRRRWOOOOOOOOOONG in a way that idly resembles a rhinoceros suffering from an anal prolapse.

P.S. lol visual kei

I've never heard of this band but I went to a high school that was 65% Chinese and Korean-American and Dir En Grey produced roughly the same effect there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtUiQJc7ZMI

case and point?

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Nov 2010, 02:43
Since when has a Floyd been complicated? Have you ever owned or worked on a guitar with a double-locking trem at all? And what you said about active pickups is just bullshit you picked up from some old corksniffer, dude. Yes, active pickups do color the sound a lot, but even I can tell the difference, tone-wise in two different EMG/Blackout equipped guitars. Don't hate on gear just because it's associated with things you don't like.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Nov 2010, 09:05
Ew, at least the DIY guy didn't have to resort to active pickups and a floyd rose.


Haters gonna hate...

Also that's a Kahler, not a floyd. Why don't you like floating trems? I'm a big fan of them, tuningstability-wise. Especially double-locking ones. Why the hate? Most of the people I've known that don't like them just don't know how set a guitar up. I don't use them at all, but they stay in tune so well that i prefer guitars with OFRs and Edges over fixed bridges (except the edge-fx, double-locking fixed bridge).

Get a Jag

That shit don't lock at the bridge OR the nut and it also don't detune

(http://imgur.com/FmAlf.jpg)

Thanks for posting bro
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Post by: Bearer on 09 Nov 2010, 10:24
Video (but it is sucky quality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Ve0hmjfhc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Ve0hmjfhc)
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Post by: edwinalink on 09 Nov 2010, 11:01
it looks like those... Uh... ...Nipples? on the sides of the body would dig into your thigh while playing it sitting down.

Also this is in his channel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdH8hcXG7HQ
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Spluff on 09 Nov 2010, 22:07
I think the FR bridge is a needlessly complicated solution for something that isn't broke.

Uh, it was broke, that was the problem.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Nov 2010, 04:00
(http://FAP.jpg)
Holy damn, it's finished.

DO WANT
fapfapfap.. Not feeling the knobs. I see some brass ones. And I h8 gold hardware. But, fapfapfap. (That could sound gayer)
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Nov 2010, 04:17
Anyone seen the new "Blacktop" series of Fenders? Was thinking about getting a normal Jag, but the Jazzmaster looks great. And can't really complain at around £450, although there is a distinct lack of switches.

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1891/bt20jazzmaster.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/bt20jazzmaster.jpg/)

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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Nov 2010, 05:51
Few pages back/August. I have cyclical GAS for those, btw. When they first launched, I was all about the Jazzmaster. Then the Tele, and now the Jaguar.
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Nov 2010, 08:05
To be fair I don't really visit fender.com very much, and as I already have a Strat I kind of keep my eyes out for offsets or just something different. But the Blacktops are pretty good of what I can tell, but there isn't much in terms of reviews around. Not sure if I could ever really go for a HH Tele, but you never know what the hell GAS will make you crave.

Its weird, Fender are making affordable, different takes on classics, and Squier are making affordable, different classics. Very different from the days when all they could offer that was "different" was either a Deluxe series or "student" models like the Cyclone (although apparently the new Duo Sonic is pretty meh).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 10 Nov 2010, 08:42
I'm GASsing for an American HHS strat of some flavor. I liked the Special that I demoed, but have yet to play a Standard or Deluxe through a proper amp. Suggestions, recommendations?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 10 Nov 2010, 10:03
...they make guitars with HHS layouts? :-o
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 10 Nov 2010, 10:09
 :-P HSS. First time I've made that mistake and it has to be here.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Nov 2010, 10:37
Ibanez does a tonfuck of pointy superstrats in HSH, kinda close.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 10 Nov 2010, 12:08
Dear Guitar Thread: 

'69 Fender Bassman 100 Silverface 50 watt head and cabinet.  AB165 circuit.  $850.

Do I get it, or do I let my kids have Christmas this year?

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Nov 2010, 12:13
Man yr kids have probably had Christmas every other year, but have you ever owned a '69 Bassman? It seems pretty simple to me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 10 Nov 2010, 12:36
SRSLY. Tell your kids that you're getting them the most awesome present imaginable 20 years from now. They will just have to wait until you die or whatever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Nov 2010, 13:09
I saw one on gbase this summer for $550, damn.


Also: eff xmas. BASSMANNNNNN!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 10 Nov 2010, 13:45
I already do build.  A lot actually.  Too much if you ask my wife.

But I also collect...
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Post by: greenMonkey on 10 Nov 2010, 13:48
My friend had one of those for a while.  It was LOOOUUUUUD.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 11 Nov 2010, 07:15

Get a Jag

That shit don't lock at the bridge OR the nut and it also don't detune



Fuck 24" scale ( :mrgreen:). I'd love to get a jazzy, but I'd only replace so much that I might as well get a Warmoth. I'm pretty sure they'll make a sevenstring version. Also, locking trems are my favourite kinds of floaters, so no surf trem for me. A surf green jazzmaster-7 with a maple neck, OFR/ZR/Edge Pro, and lundgren M-7s would be all kinds of fuck yeah for me.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2010, 07:19
That sounds hideous/Ibanez made a Talman like that probably.

Edit: Speaking of Ibanez, uh, yes please:

(http://resources.ibanez.com/resourceservicehost/images/Ibanez/web/bass/products/test/JTKB200RD.gif)
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Post by: glyphic on 11 Nov 2010, 11:16
I absolutely love their Jet King guitars. I don't know what's wrong with me.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2010, 11:55
They're offset and funky looking and don't at all scream CHUGGA CHUGGA MEEDLY WRAAAAAGH?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Nov 2010, 12:01
I'm seriously dismayed by everybody's dismissal of both CHUGGA and WEEDLY. All of the best bands do those things!
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2010, 12:25
I'm referring to it more as the shitty pop-metalcore bands (though, goddammit, I love A Day To Remember).
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Post by: greenMonkey on 11 Nov 2010, 13:47
You also can do CHUGGA and WEEDLY on a pretty looking/sounding guitar.  CHUGGA and WEEDLY do not presuppose a nasty pointy super strat with EMGs and a knockoff floyd.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 11 Nov 2010, 16:09
I also think Jet Kings are pretty rad. Omar rocked one of those in At the Drive In back in the day.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Nov 2010, 16:29
You also can do CHUGGA and WEEDLY on a pretty looking/sounding guitar.  CHUGGA and WEEDLY do not presuppose a nasty pointy super strat with EMGs and a knockoff floyd.

Or vice versa, actually.

Anyway I'm just gonna leave this here for y'all, cos I loves ya:

(http://www.invisibleoranges.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/yngwiemalmsteen-live-by-alterna2.jpg)
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 11 Nov 2010, 16:55
Yngwie played at a club I worked at in DC years ago.   He was easily the biggest douche of any of the performers that came through.   This wasn't a stadium, this was a bar, in Georgetown, that had live music most nights, and a comedy troupe on Saturday's.   He very pointedly asked me where his masseuse was, and was very upset when I told him there wasn't one.    Fuckin' masseuse.  We had like a two drink and one sandwich limit for 90% of the talent, and he wanted a masseuse.   
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Post by: Lupercal on 11 Nov 2010, 17:41
I like scallops off my fretboard, kthx.

Only person I can imagine worse is the laughable Michael Angelo Batio. 4 necks are better than one.
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Post by: Christophe on 11 Nov 2010, 17:57
I'm seriously dismayed by everybody's dismissal of both CHUGGA and WEEDLY. All of the best bands do those things!

But what about Chuggo?

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080618164122/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/7/72/Chuggo.jpg/250px-Chuggo.jpg)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 11 Nov 2010, 18:30
He does have that pretty nice solo at the end of Fuck A Guy
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Nov 2010, 05:51
I also think Jet Kings are pretty rad. Omar rocked one of those in At the Drive In back in the day.

Dogg Omar still does. Ibanez put out a signature Jet King for him about a year or two ago.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 12 Nov 2010, 07:59
I also think Jet Kings are pretty rad. Omar rocked one of those in At the Drive In back in the day.

Dogg Omar still does. Ibanez put out a signature Jet King for him about a year or two ago.
I know his signature is the same body style, but he used to use one of the old school ones with the p90 in the neck before they put out his signature. Those are way cooler. I could never get by with a one pickup guitar.
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Post by: edwinalink on 12 Nov 2010, 18:29
you can do a lot of things with one pickup and a trem...

LIKE BEING A FUCKING DRAGON.

(http://www.hembryguitars.com/guitar%20web%20stuff/Flamo/EyesLight.gif)
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Post by: Lummer on 13 Nov 2010, 05:07
Spinal Tap anyone?  :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Nov 2010, 06:22
One pickup, pfff...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:UhngdEkrcWWLIM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/ayatollahweb/lj/nigel00.jpg&t=1)

Edit: Also, Lummer, why did you stop hanging around at ss.org?
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Nov 2010, 13:51
I've still never seen that movie. There's something wrong with me.

ETA my friend gave me his old Boss OS-2 that he doesn't use anymore because he quit trying to learn guitar. And I'll be damned if it isn't the perfect piece of gear for my arsenal. I plug it in after my Tonebone in the loop, and it makes my shit sound like goddamn Duane Allman. Especially now that my hand/wrist injury has reduced me to playing guitar in the least physically demanding way possible. Which means SLIIIIIIIIIIDE!

Sound samples to come after Thursday, if all goes well.
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Post by: Christophe on 15 Nov 2010, 09:04
I like my OS-2 just fine, but I'm not a big fan of how much bass it doesn't have.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2010, 09:04
get one of those EHX bass boosts, man.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Nov 2010, 11:06
You're suggesting that he buy a pedal to make up for the deficiencies of another pedal.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2010, 11:54
It's cheaper than shelling out for that sweet-ass vintage MXR distortion I have.
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Nov 2010, 11:57
I like my OS-2 just fine, but I'm not a big fan of how much bass it doesn't have.

Protip: don't expect pedals to sound exactly the same as your amp, just with an effect on top. That's not how shit works. Turn the tone knob toward 'LO' and get a Tonebone or some shit
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2010, 12:00
See, Dovey?

The clear fix is "more pedals".
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 15 Nov 2010, 12:47
yo dogg

i heard you like tone on yr tone so i got a pedal for yr pedal
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Post by: Melodic on 15 Nov 2010, 12:47
 :psyduck:
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2010, 13:58
shhhhh enough about this. If we keep talking, Gibson will hear us and make a pedal that invokes the tone and m@j@ of a '59 Les Paul.

Not only that, but even if your guitar is out of tune, said pedal will make it sound in tune.
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Post by: The Duke on 15 Nov 2010, 16:38
They're about due for something good, after these last few links people have posted from them recently.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Nov 2010, 16:55
They did that LP Studio with P-90s earlier this year and figured that was the turnaround point.

E'nope.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Nov 2010, 00:11
Guys, my girlfriend wants to take me to music stores where she knows the owners

Guys should I keep this one
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 Nov 2010, 03:48
souuun' bitch.

Its the dream dude, she's a keeper. Unlike a lot of the guitars above. Urghh.
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Nov 2010, 12:52
Um....good looking guitars to break the mood of the thread...

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/3/5/670435.jpg)

Bang. Fender Custom Shop "Cabronita" Telecaster. Warmoth sells bodies and guards for these, and I'm debating building one in metallic green. And with a mini humbucker instead of that TV Jones dealio.

And no relicing, obviously. I've been playing a lot of stuff in open G tuning lately (Patrick, check yr email), and it'd be rad to have something simple just for that occasion (and playing slide).
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Post by: meatbag on 16 Nov 2010, 13:12
I'm torn between guitars...

Which one do you guys think I should get...

(http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/fender_blacktop_jazzmaster_hs.jpg)

or

(http://www.bassexchange.com/catalog/images/PRS_SE_custom_24_black_grey_1.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Nov 2010, 13:24
Jazzmaster > PRS

Unless you're a lawyer and you play the blues? Then..yeah, get the PRS.

edit: or you're Jeph. But you're not Jeph. Get a dang Jazzmaster.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Nov 2010, 14:21
Jazzmaster.

Also good fuck is that Telecaster you posted the most beautiful thing Shane, and it'll look even better in green.
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Nov 2010, 14:46
Yeah hey Fender if you made non-Custom Shop models that didn't cost $3,600 a piece I might buy one.
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Post by: Bearer on 16 Nov 2010, 15:56
(http://store.guitarfetish.com/assets/images/products/icons/JMSERIES_main.jpg)
 (http://store.guitarfetish.com/XV-JM-Series-Offset-Electric-Guitars_c_208.html)
Shit, I forgot guitar fetish made these things.  Those tele/jazzmasters with mini humbuckers look pretty rad.
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Post by: squawk on 16 Nov 2010, 19:45
~$200? oh fuck me
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Post by: Radical AC on 17 Nov 2010, 01:41
Man I dunno, I just can not seem to get into those blacktop models.

Bang. Fender Custom Shop "Cabronita" Telecaster. Warmoth sells bodies and guards for these, and I'm debating building one in metallic green. And with a mini humbucker instead of that TV Jones dealio.

And no relicing, obviously. I've been playing a lot of stuff in open G tuning lately (Patrick, check yr email), and it'd be rad to have something simple just for that occasion (and playing slide).

This is such a fantastic idea.  I might just steal it.  I really like that sonic blue finish on the La Cabronita, but Warmoth has that too...
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Post by: Lupercal on 17 Nov 2010, 09:37
Sucks you get guitars like that, to ship to the UK costs over half the price of the guitar. It would end up being something like $350 for a sub $200 guitar. Might as well scour the land for one. Or just get a Jagmaster. But the Tele/Jazz crossover is wonderful, maybe Fender will introduce that into some kind of "Whitetop" range.
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Post by: Kwaping on 17 Nov 2010, 10:05
I'm still jonesing for a new American Special HSS Strat. But I talked to a local builder who would do a custom job for me for around the same $800. Problem is, I'm still new enough that I don't even know how I'd spec out a custom, or if I'd be happy with it in the long run. FML.
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Nov 2010, 10:10
Sucks you get guitars like that, to ship to the UK costs over half the price of the guitar. It would end up being something like $350 for a sub $200 guitar. Might as well scour the land for one. Or just get a Jagmaster. But the Tele/Jazz crossover is wonderful, maybe Fender will introduce that into some kind of "Whitetop" range.

Another one of those things where building could be your best friend. I think it's GuitarMill that does spot-on Telemaster bodies.
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Nov 2010, 10:19
I'm still jonesing for a new American Special HSS Strat.

Well there's your first problem
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Post by: Lupercal on 18 Nov 2010, 07:18
Sucks you get guitars like that, to ship to the UK costs over half the price of the guitar. It would end up being something like $350 for a sub $200 guitar. Might as well scour the land for one. Or just get a Jagmaster. But the Tele/Jazz crossover is wonderful, maybe Fender will introduce that into some kind of "Whitetop" range.

Another one of those things where building could be your best friend. I think it's GuitarMill that does spot-on Telemaster bodies.

Still an American site though. There isn't a lot of that sort of stuff over here to my knowledge, so building from scratch is probably the only option really. I have a shitty "Encore" strat copy that I'm going to do something with over the summer, but would like an offset. I know building is a lot cheaper, but beginning mine would literally be one of those Saturday morning trips to B&Q with my dad. Does any son really relish that?
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Nov 2010, 07:56
Worked for Brian May, didn't it?
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Nov 2010, 11:11
I'm still jonesing for a new American Special HSS Strat.

Well there's your first problem

What's wrong with that?
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Nov 2010, 11:13
Everyone has a Strat.

I used to have a Strat. Patrick has...whatever the fuck his Strat has turned into.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Nov 2010, 11:57
Strats are boring as fuck. If I really needed one (which i don't, really) I'd much rather have a Carvin Bolt, any G&L stratalike etc.
My 727 and Spectrum get stratty enough for me. But really, follow yr GAS, and don't listen to us.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Nov 2010, 12:16
I can't say if someone offered me say, a clone of Rivers Cuomo's old blue Strat, I wouldn't take it.

But yeah, mostly they're boring.
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Post by: Radical AC on 18 Nov 2010, 12:21
I know a guy with a 747.  Those guitars are beautiful, and play really well (even to someone not used to a 7 string)

Strats are about as exciting as LPs to me.  They are everywhere, and not much of a head turner.  But, there is still a reason they have been around forever, and everyone copies them.  They're versatile and get the job done.
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Nov 2010, 13:09
But, there is still a reason they have been around forever, and everyone copies them.  They're versatile and get the job done.

^^^ That.

First of all, I have one guitar, and it's a 335-clone. Very not-strat. I'd like something different from that, and the strat I mentioned felt and sounded good when I tried it. I'm not trying to be original, and I definitely don't have the budget for a boutique guitar or the skill to warrant one. I'm just looking for a solidbody that's very versatile, so I won't have to keep buying new guitars (yeah I know, good fantasy huh).

Ideally, I'd hold out for one of those to come onto the used market at half price so I can turn around and resell it for no loss if it doesn't work out, but "GAS + surprise money" is a hell of a drug.
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Post by: Bearer on 18 Nov 2010, 14:10
There is a 1970's 2 pickup Gibson Nighthawk at a local shop going for $500.  It had a broken neck, and the repair job is rather shitty, but still, the guitar is cool as hell.

for reference:
(http://www.carmineghersi.com/Gibson-Nighthawk-02.jpg)
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Post by: Lupercal on 18 Nov 2010, 14:59
Yeah, but he used solid oak from a piece of his fireplace, iirc..
ie. No saturday morning trip to B&Q.

Yep. Plus the B&Q trip might actually save me from eventually having a would-be reunion tour with Paul Rodgers. And literally nobody would want that.

Nighthawk's are strange; I appreciate that its not an LP, and the broken block inlays, but I guess for a guitar like that its about the sound, rather than looks.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Nov 2010, 15:08
Be wary of even good neck repairs. Check the tuning very thoroughly, and intonation.
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Post by: Vuk on 19 Nov 2010, 12:49
What do people think of Jazzmasters? I know some of them have a problem with the way the bridge is set up, but are there any models that don't have this?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Nov 2010, 14:22
Jazzmasters=eyesex, but for me, not so much earsex. I'm not really a singlecoil kind of guy, though. The tunomatic-equipped models do not have the bridge issue, but are generally scoffed at by the purists. As long as you don't do constant windmilling, you shouldn't have to much of a problem with it anyway, though.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Nov 2010, 15:20
The Classic Player Jazzmaster I played at the store in Dublin (California, not Ireland) was a fantastic instrument and I'd love to own one. Regardless of the ToM bridge or any of the other alterations.

I would, however, replace the stock pickups with Novak or Lollar. The CP series has pickups that are wound hotter and use different magnets than the original Jazzmasters did, and Novak and Lollar are also a considerable deal more careful in their manufacturing. I bought a set of Tele pickups from Fender (via Allparts, who didn't give me a receipt in the box) and they came to me broken before I opened them.

If you get an original or vintage reproduction Jazzmaster, the bridge thing is something to note, but can be solved by replacing the original saddles with Mustang bridge saddles, which are available on the Internets. The problem also isn't anywhere near as bad as it is on the Jaguar, and having owned a Jag for roughly two years now, I'll tell you it ain't as bad as it's made out to be.

I will say that I fear the Jazzmaster and Jaguar are going the way of the Strat though. Fender is doing their absolute best to homogenize them both. Fortunately, it kills off a lot of the demand for vintage ones, so their prices are staying relatively low (as compared to vintage Teles or ES-335s).

Also guys last night I saw a guy playing a mid-60s ES-330 and I really had to resist the urge to break my glass over his head and make off with it. Dude can't play for shit anyway, I don't know why he has that thing at all.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 19 Nov 2010, 19:17
Yeah, change out the pickups.  My friend has a Classic Player Jazzmaster, and he swapped in some Lollar P90s.  It's a pretty spectacular guitar.
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Post by: Lupercal on 20 Nov 2010, 03:44
I hear you. I think that Fender are generally making use of the recent (re)popularity of such guitars. I guess it comes with the fact that many early 90s or grunge/alternative bands are reforming, so the popularity of the offsets are getting bigger again. The Blacktop series just goes to show that they're no longer only focusing on the Strat and Tele, and even Squier has the Jagmaster. I do love the Fender offsets, Jags in particular, but they're a bit out of my price range at the moment. Its a general rule of thumb that you can pick up a Japanese Jag or Jazz for less than the price of a new Reissue, but I think that comes under the "purist" rules.

The new Duo-Sonic however, is apparently pretty meh. I reckon its only a matter of time before we see some "student" kind of models, hell the Blacktops are already priced that way.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Nov 2010, 07:25
Jazzmasters=eyesex, but for me, not so much earsex.

Have you ever listened to the American Analog Set?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Nov 2010, 07:39
Yes. Sadly, it's just not for me. I know they sound good, but there just not enough of the chugga chugga and the weedly weedly for me ( :mrgreen:)

The closest thing to it i actually have the indie-ears to appreciate would be Modest Mouse-era Johnny Marr. His jag with the filtertrons is hotness.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Nov 2010, 07:41
The new Duo-Sonic however, is apparently pretty meh. I reckon its only a matter of time before we see some "student" kind of models, hell the Blacktops are already priced that way.

The Squiers? I played one through a Blues Junior a few years back and it sounded great.

The neck felt horrid, though. Thick, plasticy finish.
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Post by: Christophe on 20 Nov 2010, 23:03
Chris Jury of Seattle punk band The Bismarck has been doing a thing where he turns short-scale basses to 6-string bass guitars. He started out on some Squier Bronco Basses, and recently he's done this:

(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/christopherjury/DSC02536.jpg)

(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac135/christopherjury/DSC02537.jpg)

basically what I am saying is :psyduck:
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Post by: David_Dovey on 21 Nov 2010, 06:27
I don't get it
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Post by: Christophe on 21 Nov 2010, 08:05
Most likely Bass VI, considering that it's probably a 30" scale.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 21 Nov 2010, 08:11
OK I think I get it now
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Post by: Cernunnos on 21 Nov 2010, 09:16
It might be an optical illusion or the angle of the photo but it really looks like the tailpiece is slightly off-center. But gotdamn do i want one anyways.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 21 Nov 2010, 09:19
On Jazzmaster Bridges: I've heard some good stuff about Mastery Bridgeshttp://www.masterybridge.com/home.html (http://www.masterybridge.com/home.html), although I've heard a few people say they really don't do much of anything. Sonic Youth swears by them, and they definitely know their shit, so I would probably look into them if I owned a jazzmaster.
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Post by: The Duke on 21 Nov 2010, 11:52
Hey guys, I have probably already said this but I'm looking to buy an electric-acoustic in the $500-$1000 range, what are your suggestions?

I've played a buddy's Takamine and my cousin's Ibanez and both were great.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 21 Nov 2010, 13:43
The Korean built Takamines are great. I've had mine for 7 years and it still sounds great.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 21 Nov 2010, 14:43
Get a cheap Gretsch.

I didn't know Gretsch even made acoustics. Not flattops anyway.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 21 Nov 2010, 15:58
Hell yeah they do.  Despite its stunningly hideous appearance, I have never picked up an acoustic in my life I enjoyed playing as much as a Gretsch Rancher. 

I'm not sure I could ever be seen in public with one, but... So loud, so nice.
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Post by: edwinalink on 21 Nov 2010, 20:50
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/6/3/525963.jpg)

its not that Ugly...

okay... its a fat chick wearing to much make-up... I give you that... but...

Fat chicks will do things other girls wont...

like put up with me.
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Post by: Vuk on 21 Nov 2010, 21:23
Thanks to all who helped out with my Jazzmaster question. Man, those guitars look nice.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Nov 2010, 12:27
Guys my best friend just found an old, functional, and gorgeous Hofner violin bass for sale for US$700

He is considering selling some of his vinyl collection in order to buy that thing. He played it to check it out, and he said he's never enjoyed playing bass so much in his life.

Tell my friend what to do.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Nov 2010, 12:55
If your friend can afford it without having to worry about it then hell yeah, he should buy it. Also, post the NGD ITT.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Nov 2010, 05:51
So, I just had the most psychotic, insane, awesome idea last night.

You know that Cabronita that I want to build a clone of? I want to do it two-tone, styled like a Gretsch Anniversary:

(http://www.guitarvillage.co.uk/admin/pages/upload/Gretsch/G6118Tannigreen_m.jpg)

No Bigsby, though. I'm not going through the hassle of getting one of those installed again. But yeah...bound body, two-tone paint, green pickguard, and a GFS Retrotron mini-hum at the bridge. I need to contact some dudes on OSG about doing said body for me.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Nov 2010, 10:48
Shane you are building most perfect guitar
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Nov 2010, 10:53
I need to talk to Andrew to see if he can do that body for me. Oh goooooooood that'd be a beast of rock.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Nov 2010, 13:35
Andrew is a very skilled, if new luthier. This can only end in fuckyeahs for everyone involved. Also, that colour, in two tone? It is SEX.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Nov 2010, 14:06
Like SEX, only with more SEXY.
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Post by: sean on 24 Nov 2010, 14:35
shane you should make me one

for free
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Post by: Nodaisho on 24 Nov 2010, 15:56
Guess who just got a POD Pro, complete with floor board? It sounds amazing, which may have something to do with most of the settings having been done by my guitar teacher before he sold it to me. I will need to get some speakers for band practice, though. I figure for shows, most places put it through a soundboard and PA anyway.
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Nov 2010, 19:04
Guess who just got a POD Pro

Well buddy it was cool talking to you while it lasted

No Bigsby, though. I'm not going through the hassle of getting one of those installed again.

Do it yourself, it just takes a screwdriver and a 1/16" drill bit and it doesn't look like a rat-rod job at all. It is also really really really REALLY SIMPLE
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Post by: Nodaisho on 24 Nov 2010, 19:25
Quote
Well buddy it was cool talking to you while it lasted
Because I'm going to be playing so much, or you can't associate with anyone that uses a POD?
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Nov 2010, 19:55
man that's some astonishingly well-done quote fucking right there

also patrick, i'm getting a pod. whatchu got against dem things
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Nov 2010, 20:54
Well see it is pretty simple. Pods are for people who don't have a sack behind their dong.
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Nov 2010, 21:00
dude i am gonna let this one slide but i've got like twelve sacks back there

just for the record
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Post by: Radical AC on 24 Nov 2010, 21:11
The POD never really appealed to me.  You can get some pretty neat sounds out of it and it is cheap, but if I were to go that route I think I would rather go with a full blown rack mount.  I also feel like I've spent too much money on boutique pedals to model my sound.  Which might be a tad disingenuous because I'm still totally GASing over a Geiger Counter.  (Which according to the product page is NOT a modeling pedal)

Shane you are building most perfect guitar

Seriously.  Why doesn't anyone already make this?  I would spend, like, more than a reasonable amount of money for one.  Like I said before, I really want to take this concept and run with it myself.  I've never built a guitar before, but I have the internet and a lot of power tools.   :psyduck:

I can not wait to see how this turns out.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 24 Nov 2010, 21:21
Uh, mine is a rack mount. I don't currently have a rack to mount it into, but it was rack mounted before I bought it. And I'm pretty sure it is the best sound I can get for the budget I was looking at.
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Nov 2010, 22:38
The POD as an amp replacement or rack makes a lot more sense to me than as an effects pedal. The Geiger Counter, on the other hand, makes the most sense because it destroys things (seriously it makes my guitar the happiest thing).
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Post by: Lummer on 25 Nov 2010, 00:33
Uh, mine is a rack mount. I don't currently have a rack to mount it into, but it was rack mounted before I bought it. And I'm pretty sure it is the best sound I can get for the budget I was looking at.

Remember, you're gonna need a power amp of some sort if you're going for the Rack method into a cabinet or two. However, most amp heads with an effects loop can do this.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Nov 2010, 08:12
Andrew is a very skilled, if new luthier. This can only end in fuckyeahs for everyone involved. Also, that colour, in two tone? It is SEX.

*sad Price Is Right Music*

He is. He's one of my favorite builders on OSG.

The bad news, friends, as I just got a PM back from him..he doesn't have routing templates for mini HBs, and he doesn't know anything about doing binding.

Plus, he's wicked backed up on projects right now.  :|
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Nov 2010, 12:12
Talk to the dude who did them vioLes Pauls dogg
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Post by: Ballard on 26 Nov 2010, 12:26
He should offer "completed guitar kissed by a manatee" as an extra service on builds.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Nov 2010, 14:24
He doesn't already? I thought that was where all the hot, sloppy mojo came from.
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Post by: Bearer on 26 Nov 2010, 15:15
Mini humbuckers fit into a P90 rout.  That's how they were designed.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Nov 2010, 07:11
Yeah, very true. I told him to let me know when he can do binding, so I can get this thing made.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Nov 2010, 08:21
So, I'm now tuning to F#BEADGC, I feel pretty good about this. I still have my eclipse for D and drop C, and my charvel for E standard.

Anyone else tuning to anything but standard here? (Beside the obvious DADFAG and BAGDAD.)
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Nov 2010, 08:23
Lately, I've been doing everything in open G (DBDGBD).
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Nov 2010, 13:47
i'm playing in drop c chugga chugga chugga
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Nov 2010, 14:44
Oh, wait, now I'm going FBbEbAbDbGbB. Shit, my bass is panicking and my guitar now has an identity crisis.
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Post by: The Duke on 27 Nov 2010, 15:14
I've had my acoustic tuned to DGCFAD (everything a whole tone down) for around a year now, and I don't think I'm ever going back.
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Post by: edwinalink on 27 Nov 2010, 15:16
Epiphone Dots and Ibanez Artcores both come in lefty...

which to choose, which to choose...
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Post by: Christophe on 27 Nov 2010, 15:23
Hey guys, so I recently switched from a set of .11s to .12s (D'addario Jazz Light), with a .24w G string. Consequently I can't do two-note bends on that string anymore. I've noticed that some string sets have a .20 for the G string instead, would this help me bend better on that string, or should I just do a Light top/Heavy bottom set instead? And if I do would I have to reset the truss rod?
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Nov 2010, 16:17
.20s would make you less of a man
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Nov 2010, 16:46
Epiphone Dots and Ibanez Artcores both come in lefty...

which to choose, which to choose...

The Ibanezes are way better quality for the money, compared to any Epiphone. Plus, they look hellofalot better.
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Post by: edwinalink on 27 Nov 2010, 17:09
Epiphone Dots and Ibanez Artcores both come in lefty...

which to choose, which to choose...

The Ibanezes are way better quality for the money, compared to any Epiphone. Plus, they look hellofalot better.

then thats the one for me!
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Post by: Nodaisho on 27 Nov 2010, 18:45
I disagree with Fenders. When it comes to cheap guitars, the differences tend to be with the individual guitars as much as the make and model. Play them both, see which you like more. I got incredibly lucky with my Epi, but I could have gotten a bad one just as easily. I checked it out at the store to make sure it was what I wanted.
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Post by: edwinalink on 27 Nov 2010, 19:51
...But I am left handed and have to Mail Order this guitar...
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Nov 2010, 20:29
Guys

Guys my best friend bought a Hofner violin bass today

It's the reissue from 20 years ago, fuckin' Made In Germany status, that little fuck is worth 2 grand but he got a fuckin SICK ASS DEAL and paid $550

I have never seen that kid so happy in the [almost] 7 years I've known him
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Post by: Kwaping on 29 Nov 2010, 09:44
http://www.ibanez.com/HollowBodyGuitars/model-AS73L (http://www.ibanez.com/HollowBodyGuitars/model-AS73L)

That's the lefty version of my guitar. I've been extremely happy with it. (With that said, I'm still GASsing for a Strat.)
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Post by: edwinalink on 29 Nov 2010, 15:18
http://www.ibanez.com/HollowBodyGuitars/model-AS73L (http://www.ibanez.com/HollowBodyGuitars/model-AS73L)

That's the lefty version of my guitar. I've been extremely happy with it. (With that said, I'm still GASsing for a Strat.)

Indeed its that or the Dot. I still haven't decided.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Nov 2010, 15:25
Plus, they look hellofalot better.

Defend yourself here. Please. Headstock shape?

I am maybe looking at getting a used lawsuit Fender Bullet H2/Lead 3 thingymajig. Chris, tell me more about your Lead.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v502/Pacafeliz/Guitars/DSC08260.jpg)

(if it fits a standard Lead 3 guard and I get it, bitch is getting TORTED SO HARD.)
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Post by: Ballard on 29 Nov 2010, 16:28
I was gonna say, please just don't keep the white pickguard. God that's dogshit.

I mean I like blink-182 just as much as the next guy but it's not something one should do in public.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Nov 2010, 16:46
True fact:

After I was an idiot and didn't get that '73 Mustang when I was 16, I almost nearly bought a Tom Delonge Strat.

But I went with the Firebird instead.
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Post by: edwinalink on 29 Nov 2010, 16:47
is it me or does that red strat not have any contours?
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Nov 2010, 22:17
Huh, didn't notice at first look, but you're right, it doesn't have contours. It's also not a Strat though.  :psyduck:

Also hey guys you remember how I promised Hofner porn? Here you go.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1228.snc4/156064_473936847415_622962415_5569141_2342748_n.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Nov 2010, 06:47
Plus, they look hellofalot better.
Defend yourself here. Please. Headstock shape?


Exhibit A:

(http://goatboy.ch/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Epiphone_Dot_Electric_Guitar_Black.jpg)

Exhibit B

(http://resources.ibanez.com/resourceservicehost/images/Ibanez/web/hollow/products/test/AS93BLS.gif)

Or
(http://resources.ibanez.com/resourceservicehost/images/Ibanez/web/hollow/products/test/AS73TCRL.gif)



Just my personal preference though. The headstocks are pretty similar so that's not it. I prefer the body shape of the ibanez, and i feel the workmanship is better than the dot I've played. The Ibanez wins for me, although they usually do. (At least the prestiges)

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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2010, 09:30
is it me or does that red strat not have any contours?

Yep. It's based on the Bullet and Lead models from the 70s and 80s.

NotAFanOfFenders, you're forgetting I don't like flame maple tops and gold hardware.

I should note: I saw a band this summer where the guitarist had that blue/gold Ibanez, and it sounded pretty ace.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Nov 2010, 10:24
Those little Ibanezes are pretty sweet. I played one back in Albania at my buddy's music store, and the thing blew my mind.

As far as cheap semihollows go, I'll actually fold and say that those things are a better deal all around than the Dot. Things change when you get up into the Sheraton/Casino range, but those lower-end ones... Ibanez fasho. Ibanez actually seem to have started to know what the fuck they're doing when they make cheap guitars.

ETA: also, this won't be news to anybody, but I still don't fucking like Ibanez guitars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCxFTh-XDy8&feature=channel)
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Post by: Lupercal on 30 Nov 2010, 13:49
I did have a slight infactuation with the SA series, and of course the Jets, but overall nah. I never really saw myself playing a super-strat, especially something as ghastly as the ones (RG and others perhaps?) that have the shark-tooth inlays. Urgh.

Saying that, anybody know anything about "Vintage" guitars? The brand, that is. Possible knock around guitar waiting around the corner. Plus some of their guitars come pre knocked around, if you're into that sort of thing.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2010, 14:25
The red one isn't currently for sale.

Luckily, browsing on gbase, I found a similar Hondo at a semi-local shop:

(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/2737250/p1_uecycf44p_ss.jpg)

If it's still there after the xmas, it's MINE. I'm not sure if it comes with the hand or not...
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Post by: Melodic on 30 Nov 2010, 16:00
goddamn now i want a golden yellow guitar
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Post by: Lupercal on 30 Nov 2010, 16:59
Very Duo Sonicy. For some reason those Cyclone/Musicmaster shapes look great in yellow.
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Post by: Ballard on 30 Nov 2010, 19:17
Re: Ibanez vs. Epiphone

Spend the extra $140 and go for a Hagstrom Viking (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hagstrom-Viking-SemiHollowbody-Electric-Guitar?sku=513354).

Elvis played Hagstroms. Do you really need any more justification?


(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/0/4/638004.jpg)
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Post by: edwinalink on 30 Nov 2010, 19:40
Re: Ibanez vs. Epiphone

Spend the extra $140 and go for a Hagstrom Viking (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hagstrom-Viking-SemiHollowbody-Electric-Guitar?sku=513354).

Elvis played Hagstroms. Do you really need any more justification?


(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/0/4/638004.jpg)

It comes left handed... :psyduck: and I have a color choice... :psyduck: heh. :mrgreen: SQUEEEEEEEE!
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Post by: Ballard on 30 Nov 2010, 19:45
You're welcome.
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Post by: The Duke on 30 Nov 2010, 19:47
Speaking of golden yellow guitars:

(http://www.drumza.com/images/TakamineEG523CDXAcousticGuitar.jpg)

I saw this in a catalog and it is on sale and it is kind of what I desire.

(Takamine EG523CDX-HB G Jumbo)
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Post by: Bearer on 30 Nov 2010, 22:02
A friend of mine has a vintage Hagstrom acoustic.  It's heavy as hell, but it's definitely the most beautiful sounding acoustic I've ever heard.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Dec 2010, 06:35


ETA: also, this won't be news to anybody, but I still don't fucking like Ibanez guitars (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCxFTh-XDy8&feature=channel)

Aaand by Ibnaez, you mean ESP, right?

As a fan of vintagey AND metally/shreddy guitars, I've never gotten the hate on either. It's mostly the vintage guys hatin' though, as most people on Sevenstring.org or MG.org can easily get it it up to a sweet '59 jazzmaster.
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Post by: Lummer on 01 Dec 2010, 06:42
Sevenstring.org is easily the biggest bunch of gear whores anywhere. Just how many dudes in there have custom built Blackmachines, Bernie Rico Jr's, Roters and all kinds of junk?

Not to mention the UV's!!!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Dec 2010, 07:57
The fuckin' UV's, man, the Greendots and PWH's. DANG.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 05:52
Very Duo Sonicy. For some reason those Cyclone/Musicmaster shapes look great in yellow.

It's not fucking offset. Sadly.

CHRIS CMON DUDE SERIOUSLY. TALK ME INTO THIS (the same shop has a Silverface Champ for 300 bones and I've always wanted an old Champ..).
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Dec 2010, 11:39
They are so sick, but the fung shue in my room is all off kilter. I have two guitar stands, and one's been empty ever since I sold my LP Special-alike.
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Post by: Chad K. on 02 Dec 2010, 21:47
Re: Ibanez vs. Epiphone

Spend the extra $140 and go for a Hagstrom Viking (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hagstrom-Viking-SemiHollowbody-Electric-Guitar?sku=513354).

Elvis played Hagstroms. Do you really need any more justification?


(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/0/4/638004.jpg)

It comes left handed... :psyduck: and I have a color choice... :psyduck: heh. :mrgreen: SQUEEEEEEEE!

I own this exact same guitar.  It is the most comfortable neck ever.  Very, very slim, with a nice taper.  Plus, the truss rod is this weird proprietary "H" shaped rod that never seems to give, which means the action stays low.  The pickups are a little odd, though. Lots of lows, lots of highs, not a lot of mellow mids. 

Personally, even though I love this guitar, I love my 90's Sheraton more.  The pickups are a little more mellow, which I prefer; and, the necks are this weird, but very comfortable shape that is flat and wide on the back and then rounded on the edges.  It really gives your thumb a lot of purchase, which means it ends up taking less effort to hold a chord down.   
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Post by: edwinalink on 02 Dec 2010, 22:19
I played another Artcore today (well, what I call playing...)

my god. its so rare I find a right handed guitar that fits comfortably and makes me think "Am I sure I'm a lefty? really?"
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 Dec 2010, 12:01
^^ That's crazy! But I agree, there's something about the AS73 that is 100% different and more comfortable than other guitars. I may have already said this, but I tried 6-8 semis on NGD and the AS73 stood out from the pack. I don't know if it's the fretboard radius, the neck shape, or what - probably a combination of a whole lot of little things.

To the others out there, if you haven't tried one yet, go try it. Maybe you can pinpoint it for me.
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Post by: edwinalink on 03 Dec 2010, 14:05
^^ That's crazy! But I agree, there's something about the AS73 that is 100% different and more comfortable than other guitars. I may have already said this, but I tried 6-8 semis on NGD and the AS73 stood out from the pack. I don't know if it's the fretboard radius, the neck shape, or what - probably a combination of a whole lot of little things.

To the others out there, if you haven't tried one yet, go try it. Maybe you can pinpoint it for me.

for me I'd say... its got the perfect neck contour, and the body shape just HUGS perfectly into my arms/body

and the 12" neck radius... I may go buy one of the righties. just to see if I can get comfy on it... maybe I can convert myself over to the Norm.... BEFORE ITS TO LATE.
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Dec 2010, 17:48
Old champs are the best things ever. My dad has a vibro champ and it is so very sweet.
I had the loan of an old silverface 6w champ for a long time. It is a great little chAMP.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Dec 2010, 05:11
Personally, even though I love this guitar, I love my 90's Sheraton more.  The pickups are a little more mellow, which I prefer; and, the necks are this weird, but very comfortable shape that is flat and wide on the back and then rounded on the edges.  It really gives your thumb a lot of purchase, which means it ends up taking less effort to hold a chord down.   

You know, I never really thought about the neck shape on those things. I've played two same-era Sheratons that have belonged to different friends of mine. And they've both played pretty much spot-on to what you describe above, as far as the effort it takes to play one goes. I am going to have to take a look at my bud Bryant's Sheraton and see if his neck has got the same shape as what you described. I'll also have to go back and look at that Casino I played at Best Buy a while back, because that neck was also really damn comfortable to play. I might actually consider purchasing a brand new instrument from them if that neck shape is what makes them so playable. The awesome sound is just a bonus on top of it.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Dec 2010, 10:19
Older Epiphones have decent pickups? Fuck. I've always complained about every new Epiphone having shitty ones. I don't think I've ever played a pre-2000 model.

Also, stratguys, how do you fucking play with a 7.5/9.5 fretboard radius? I really can't get along with vintage fenders for that reason (as well as the Mandolin fretwire).  My Spectrum has a 10" radius, and even that's way to round for me. I have 12" minimum and I guess a infinite " maximum. Is it just technique? I think it might be, 'cause I can't even get my blooze on with them.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 05 Dec 2010, 12:49
I'd imagine you just get used to it, particularly if you have a guitar with a 7.5 or 9.5 radius to begin with. The reverse adjustment, however, seems way easier. I like flatter radii, despite having played nearly nothing but strats and teles. I've heard people claim it's easier to play chords on a vintage radius instrument, and harder to play single note lines, but I've also heard the opposite elsewhere. So who knows? It's all about personal preference and what you get used to i guess.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Dec 2010, 13:05
http://store.boutiquetone.com/index.php?product=FIB-EROT10ANN-001&c=23

(http://store.boutiquetone.com/index.php?image=12858)

Only $7500! What a steal!
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Dec 2010, 13:12
It looks like something a wanky-ass bass player would play.
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Post by: edwinalink on 06 Dec 2010, 15:17
...my eyes are bleeding.
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Post by: Ballard on 06 Dec 2010, 16:37
Ugly guitar but it would make a gorgeous bass.

Kind of Ritter Royal-esque.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Dec 2010, 17:29
Tested out a little 3/4 size Martin acoustic. Little backpacker guitar. It was surprisingly nice-sounding. And for a guitar so small, the intonation was really good. I have been more and more impressed with Martins lately even though they are practically the Gibson of the acoustic world.
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Dec 2010, 18:05
Ugly guitar but it would make a gorgeous bass.

Kind of Ritter Royal-esque.
1) the burl looks like in 2 places it forms sphincters.
2) the horns look like two tragically separated testicles on the ends. (and I play a parker)
3) my bass player says no to that design.
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Post by: Ballard on 06 Dec 2010, 18:34
Ugly guitar but it would make a gorgeous bass.

Kind of Ritter Royal-esque.
1) the burl looks like in 2 places it forms sphincters.
2) the horns look like two tragically separated testicles on the ends. (and I play a parker)
3) my bass player says no to that design.

You're just biased because your bass player could give you two tragically separated testicles.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Dec 2010, 18:52
You're also married to her. Hell I know a billion bassists who would love that thing, goofy as it is.
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Dec 2010, 19:26
it's like a tragically curved 4001.
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Post by: jeph on 07 Dec 2010, 05:09
http://store.boutiquetone.com/index.php?product=FIB-EROT10ANN-001&c=23

(http://store.boutiquetone.com/index.php?image=12858)

Only $7500! What a steal!

Clearly built by a bass-guitar luthier. The balance is all wrong- bridge is WAY too far back from the center of the body- look at a Les Paul or even a Fender- the bridge is much closer to center mass.

That awful PRS style (in fact I'm pretty sure that IS a PRS) fixed-intonation bridge.

It's apparently a bolt-on, which is ridiculous considering how deep the neck/body joint is. Just glue the fucking thing in.

Maple burl on a guitar is just silly looking. Maple burl on ANYTHING OTHER THAN A CHEST OF DRAWERS is just silly looking.
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Post by: Radical AC on 07 Dec 2010, 12:32
1) the burl looks like in 2 places it forms sphincters.
2) the horns look like two tragically separated testicles on the ends. (and I play a parker)
3) my bass player says no to that design.

Possibly, but just look at the guitar name: Fibenare Guitars Erotic 10th Anniversary Electric Guitar.  Maybe the luthier has a thing for sphincters and separated testicles.

It doesn't really appeal to me, but it doesn't look terrible.  The price point is a bit ridiculous for something you aren't specifying yourself.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Dec 2010, 13:27
Foxx Tone Machine clone for $50...pull the trigger?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 07 Dec 2010, 17:47
It's apparently a bolt-on, which is ridiculous considering how deep the neck/body joint is. Just glue the fucking thing in.

How did they even make that work? That's what's stumping me. I can't imagine it being a very strong joint, with the neck pickup rout being so close.

And re: what you said about the bridge placement, hmph. I bet it gets bugger all for proper sustain and tone. That is why bridges get placed where they do.
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Post by: Lummer on 07 Dec 2010, 23:43
The dude from Suicide Silence (nevermind checking tha band out, they suck) now has a Schecter sig model, which is a Silverburst 7-string telecaster.

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!
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Post by: edwinalink on 07 Dec 2010, 23:51
Speaking of Sig telecasters... Jim Roots is like... super tasty.

(http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/6914/lf2a3ab1e350e237b9adefcxl7.jpg)

Don't need to like the band to like the guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 08 Dec 2010, 01:34
Urgh. There is something about HH Telecasters that I'm really not a fan of. That particular model is sort of...missing everything that makes it a Telecaster. It might be a tone machine and play like nothing else, but by looks I wouldn't touch that with a bargepole.

I think I generally have a bit of an issue with Fender taking classic models and subtracting everything that makes them nice. IMO, they should concentrate on some different models rather than making horrible versions of existing ones. Past few years we've had the Cyclone, Toronado etc. Hell even the Squier 51 was a great guitar. Need some more of those.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Dec 2010, 01:45
You ain't never seen a Tele with Wide Ranges, son. What you been looking at?

(http://imgur.com/3ug1D.jpg[/url]
[img]http://imgur.com/nI99Z.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/Pramy.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Dec 2010, 02:11
For once, Patrick, we agree. Dat thang be fiiiiiiiiine!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 08 Dec 2010, 02:19
Humbuckered Tele Goodness. Mmmmmm.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2010, 05:46
Speaking of Sig telecasters... Jim Roots is like... super tasty.

Get your EMG bullshit out of my Telecasters.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 08 Dec 2010, 05:51
I'd actually get the white one and swap in some red, open bobbin bareKnuckle  Cold Sweats,

and sell the EMG's to some kid with a B.C. Rich that will shit himself for them.

but yeah.

Fuck actives.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 08 Dec 2010, 06:33
The deluxe Teles are nice. Yeah. Especially a vintage one. But I guess I prefer them with the control plate and semi circle pickguard etc. Aesthetically, standard.

Certainly not with a Strat style switch and black hardware.

I'm sure other people feel the same when they see things like a floyd rose Strat or a Mockingbird or something.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 08 Dec 2010, 06:36
I gotta agree on the Control plate/switch thing.

its a big part of the aesthetic on a Tele. and the cheap plastic rear route cover kinda bums me out.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Dec 2010, 07:21
I'd actually get the white one and swap in some red, open bobbin bareKnuckle  Cold Sweats,

and sell the EMG's to some kid with a B.C. Rich that will shit himself for them.

but yeah.

Fuck actives.

Dude, Burnt Chrome covers. Seriously.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2010, 07:27
I gotta agree on the Control plate/switch thing.

its a big part of the aesthetic on a Tele. and the cheap plastic rear route cover kinda bums me out.

So wait, what part of that Tele do you actually like? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 08 Dec 2010, 07:48
So wait, what part of that Tele do you actually like? I'm confused.

I just said I like the control plate.

I like the pickguard to.

and the overall outline.

but everything else I'd change. a Contoured body with a skinny neck, reverse headstock individual saddles and hums.

my tele will most likely be a partscaster.


Dude, Burnt Chrome covers. Seriously.


(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/129/l_49d8e775e20f4049a2a03f4e6af8bc51.jpg)
WOW.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2010, 07:56
Trippy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 08 Dec 2010, 08:24
Case hardening - if it works for guns...

Also, Telecaster Delux.  I love them.  Brian King and Hutch Harris both play them, I mean come on.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Dec 2010, 05:42
I was ahead of the curve, sorry Brian King.

(I still love you)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 09 Dec 2010, 07:05
Guys, guess who just built a 9 volt bass amp out of spare parts from Radio shack?

fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Dec 2010, 12:35
UM WORKING ON MAYBE TALKING A CERTAIN OSG LUTHIER DOWN TO $350 ON A 25.SOMETHINGISH SCALE DUO-SONIC.

Dear Hondo Lead copies,

Nothing against you, but it'd be my first offset. And it's beauuuuutiful (though reliced to bits).

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_1223.jpg)
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_1224.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 09 Dec 2010, 17:02
Looks familiar - OSG luthier being a guy from Offset Guitars forum? If so I remember seeing that build in progress. If not, ignore this post entirely.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2010, 05:46
Yep. Andrew.

(Offer accepted. $375 shipped. Just gotta wait for my check to come in on Wednesday)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 10 Dec 2010, 07:14
Man, nice one. That is a great deal. Andrew is a great guy, and his workshop is the envy of pretty much anyone who has considered any mods whatsoever.

The finish on that Duo is excellent. If I remember rightly he got that cracked effect by spraying compressed air all over it.

This is why I'm a little sad that the UK doesn't have any sites like guitar fetish.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Dec 2010, 07:46
Yeah, ever since he's started building I've wanted something from him. He does the raddest shit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 10 Dec 2010, 12:01
Shane dude fuck yeah. o/

Although I have to ask why the hell did he let it go for so little?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Dec 2010, 17:52
I don't necessarily think relicing is bad unless you're paying an obscene amount of money for it, and $350 for that bad boy is by no means a ripoff.

EDIT: So I started looking at Duo sonics on eBay for the hell of it and saw a bunch of old ones being auctioned off in parts. Does anyone else bitterly despise these people who take apart gorgeous vintage guitars to sell piece by piece?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 11 Dec 2010, 05:18
Pretty sure he lets it go for so little because it costs a fraction of the selling price to make. It was either this build or another one, the guy got all the wood for (he said) about $35 (could be wrong though, only skim the topics usually). And with the amount of spare shit he has knocking around it can't cost him a lot to put it together. I'm not saying he's cheap or this sort of work is effortless; I'm sure he charges for labour but its more about his love for it and reputation and knowing you've had something built with love and effort than charging ridiculous amounts.

Also, his little headstock decal is brilliant, valley_parade should get a pic on here of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 11 Dec 2010, 06:41
Shane dude fuck yeah. o/

Although I have to ask why the hell did he let it go for so little?

He wanted $450, and I casually mentioned it was a little out of my price range. He sent me a PM saying he'd do $350 because he'd rather have someone who really wanted it get it than go to ebay or have it sit on OSG for sale forever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 11 Dec 2010, 08:25
Does anyone else bitterly despise these people who take apart gorgeous vintage guitars to sell piece by piece?

And by the way, this. You greedy moneywhores. Just give it to someone who'd appreciate it and take a loss or whatever.

Also, his little headstock decal is brilliant, valley_parade should get a pic on here of it.

The "Andrew" logo?

(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/andrewdoeshair/IMG_1227-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 11 Dec 2010, 14:34
Tasty.

Definitely comes under that wonderful term "raddest shit".
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 11 Dec 2010, 16:42
A non-reliced version of that would be pretty sweet, but is the fretboard-to-headstock transition crooked, or is that just me?

375$ for that though, Damn.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Dec 2010, 09:02
It is a little not...smooth. But he hasn't been doing necks for that long.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 14 Dec 2010, 16:14
http://www.ovationguitars.com/guitars/product/mandocello_mc868
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAMe9pZwogY

I am totally making a electric mandocello.  I'm thinking thinline telecaster shape with only a P90 neck pickup and an acoustic bridge with a piezo acoustic pickup under the saddle.  8 strings, cello tuning (CC-DD-GG-AA).  HELL YES, I have a project.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 16 Dec 2010, 21:22
Why haven't more people pointed out how awesome that Andrew headstock decal is?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 17 Dec 2010, 00:18
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Lou-Pallo-Signature-Les-Paul.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Lou-Pallo-Signature-Les-Paul.aspx)

(http://images.gibson.com/Files/e32fc8bd-4189-48c9-b820-455e528a34b3.jpg)

Oh boy. Ooooooh boy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 17 Dec 2010, 00:53
forty-seven hundred
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 17 Dec 2010, 00:59
Yeah, but it's so prettyyyyyy
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Dec 2010, 05:45
A p-90 and a humbucker. That's a strange concept.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 17 Dec 2010, 09:23
Aw man, somebody finally posts a good Gibson guitar and my monitor is all fucked up and I can't see it.  Sucks.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 17 Dec 2010, 10:44
Don't you wish your guitar was a diamond like me?

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cIIGDybh5VC0PM:http://mother-bread.com/Images/ToddLuey.jpg&t=1)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 17 Dec 2010, 14:50
Chris, you just took every bit of potential this page had to be a Good Page and threw up all over it.

Lummer, can I interest you in a late 90's Gibson Les Paul Special with dual P-90s? Black body, black pickguard, black pick-up covers, red kill switch (optional).

For about 3500 dollars less than what you posted.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Dec 2010, 05:20
Gibson with an ebony top?

The Gibmachine or the Blackmagib, take your pick.

Seriously though, I still don't get Gibson's (or PRS's) heels. They're just a result of good ol' laziness. How can a 5000$ guitar not have a fucking sculpted heel + decent tuners and a proper nut. Fuck you Gibson, I used to like you, but when korean imports have better QC and sound better (to my ears) you need to step up your game.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Dec 2010, 07:08
They're too busy innovatin' to worry about quality.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 18 Dec 2010, 10:51
A p-90 and a humbucker. That's a strange concept.

Shane did you really forget this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Gary-Moore-BFG-Electric-Guitar?sku=520215)

I mean really it's only been like 5 years

Also the BFG is a fucking great guitar to play, not even going to kid you there
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 18 Dec 2010, 13:18
Don't you wish your guitar was a diamond like me?
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cIIGDybh5VC0PM:http://mother-bread.com/Images/ToddLuey.jpg&t=1)

Who's going to play that? The goddess Kali?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Dec 2010, 07:44
A p-90 and a humbucker. That's a strange concept.

Shane did you really forget this (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Gary-Moore-BFG-Electric-Guitar?sku=520215)

I mean really it's only been like 5 years

Also the BFG is a fucking great guitar to play, not even going to kid you there

Aren't they like half-assed finished though?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Dec 2010, 11:57
You give a shit about the finish on a guitar that looks like nobody gave a fuck in the first place? The only reason I like it is because it's playable to hell and it's got the bridge 'bucker and the P90 in the neck. If you've never played one through a Blues Junior, do it immediately.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Dec 2010, 08:42
Rargh. Got sniped at the last minute on a version 5 Op-Amp Big Muff from the late 70s. CURSE YOU, EBAY. It jumped from $60 to $149.50 alarmingly quick.

edit: Anyone have any pedals from Stomp Under Foot or Made By Mike? I'm kinda thinking about either getting the Pumpkin Pi (SUF) or the 78 IC (MbM). Could use some feedback from people that aren't all omg boutique pedal tonelawyerz.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 22 Dec 2010, 13:51
boutique pedalllllls

i brought my geiger counter to a jam and someone had a 6/1 splitter. so we had two guitars, an electric ukelele, and an electric violin all nutting out ridiculously distorted synth lines.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Retne on 22 Dec 2010, 21:09
If you happened to record that I would be interested to hear a sample of that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 22 Dec 2010, 21:42
I've never played out of an SUF but I've heard nothing but good things. I almost pulled the trigger on one a while ago but I ended up buying an EQD Sound shank instead.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Dec 2010, 07:34
Do you think swapping my Blues Jr for a Swart AST would be worth the money, considering I'm almost exclusively a bedroom player?

Discuss.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Dec 2010, 07:54
Marshall Class 5, babydoll.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Dec 2010, 08:13
No master volume, no can do. I like distortion as much as anyone, but I need to be able to distort while keeping the actual volume way low.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 23 Dec 2010, 08:19
THD Power attenuator (http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_hotplate.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Dec 2010, 08:26
Interesting link. I was also looking at the Swart Night Light. But that's just one more thing that I gotta buy.

Not that I don't like buying guitar gear, but most of my money is already spoken for.

I'm thinking of buying a low-watt tube head of good quality and pairing it with something like a 1x15 or 1x20 cab. I like low watt amps but they usually come with tiny speakers that ruin the sound. What do you guys think of this idea?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Dec 2010, 08:43
No master volume, no can do. I like distortion as much as anyone, but I need to be able to distort while keeping the actual volume way low.

SUPER HARD ONNNNNNNNNNNN. Are you on OSG? There's a guy selling a clone on there for $75. Same dude I got my vintage MXR distortion from, actually.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Dec 2010, 09:23
Just joined it, thanks for the tip. (Great, another forum to monitor...)

Can you link the thread here? I'm not finding it over there. Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Dec 2010, 09:47
It's in the for sale section. Only accessible if you've got 50+ posts. If you join, send a PM over to peterherman.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Dec 2010, 13:02
So I got a trade offer for my EC-1000. A Fender Lead 1, which I didn't go for, and just now a Tiny Terror. Fuck people and their vintage-correct gear, I want my Chugga chuggas and meedley meedleys.

(Disclaimer: I do like vintagey gear, honestly)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 23 Dec 2010, 20:56
I really like the EC-1000.  A friend of mine in a post-rock band plays with one and they are just fun to use. 

I want a super duper two-in-one pretty bad.  If I were to name a pedal that combined two super hard ons I probably would have gone with something classier like the Large Hard On Collider or some other meme.  Regardless, it is toward the top of my acquisition list.

The THD Hotplate will do everything you want and need for your amp except fit in your budget.  It is kind of a must have for my DeVille since its only two settings seem to be "Loud" and "Get The Cops Called On You At 1:30PM".  So it's pretty ideal if you have a powerful tube amp that you want to gig and practice with.  More of something to keep in mind.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Dec 2010, 06:50
I really like the EC-1000.  A friend of mine in a post-rock band plays with one and they are just fun to use. 


I love mine too, it's just that I'm selling off my six-strings to finance a new rig, 6505 with an Orange ppc412hp, bitches. ...Or an Axe-fx, but I'm not exactly loaded. Also, why are there no DiMarzio dealers in Norway? It's all Duncan Donuts over here.

In other news, I've come to the realization that I've never played a strat (USA, Mexican or Japanese) that plays as smoothly as my Charvel. I like strats in theory but I've never liked the feel of them. Does anyone have any recommendations for strats beyond Fender? I'm thinking of picking one of these up too: http://www.rondomusic.com/sentinelvwh.html (http://www.rondomusic.com/sentinelvwh.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 24 Dec 2010, 08:14
You people have some really nice gear!

My Electra:

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/geetar2.jpg)

Thats just my baby practice amp in the picture, my "real" amp is a Hot Rod Deluxe + 2 x 12" speaker cab.

The story i got with this guitar is that an old blues musician came to the shop and sold off most of his gear because all the other members of his band were dead. He was the only one left.

Oh. before anyone mentions it, i didnt put that single coil in the bridge, i bought it like that. I never fixed it because the neck pickup is the best sounding thing ive ever heard, so i had no need.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Dec 2010, 11:10
Interesting link. I was also looking at the Swart Night Light. But that's just one more thing that I gotta buy.

Not that I don't like buying guitar gear, but most of my money is already spoken for.

I'm thinking of buying a low-watt tube head of good quality and pairing it with something like a 1x15 or 1x20 cab. I like low watt amps but they usually come with tiny speakers that ruin the sound. What do you guys think of this idea?

Why in the world would anybody ever need anything larger than a 12" speaker for playing guitar

10" or 12" sound miles better than 15 or 20 ever would for guitar. If you need more bass response, don't use an open-back cabinet.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 24 Dec 2010, 11:51
Well, some Metal guitarists use Woofer cabs with 15" speakers to get more low end. Dimebag did it, as far as I know.

Christian Olde Wolbers (ex-Fear Factory) also did it, but he sucks. Despite that, Scott Hull (aka. God) does it with Pig Destroyer so therefore it is officially A Cool Thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2010, 12:24
If you need more bass response, don't use an open-back cabinet.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Dec 2010, 12:56
Well, nobody uses openback cabs. What are you on about Patrick?!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 26 Dec 2010, 13:57
Unless you count this.

(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2505/immortalfake.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 26 Dec 2010, 14:33
i may or may not have a pod x3 and an rc-2 spewing wires around my room right now
wheeeeee
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2010, 15:40
Gene there is a difference between using an empty, false cabinet and using a cabinet where the back has been removed to allow for greater treble and midrange response in the speaker.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 26 Dec 2010, 21:08
Yes I'm sure he didn't know that either
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Dec 2010, 00:12
I still don't get why open backed cabinets are even mentioned in a conversation about bass response.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Dec 2010, 02:32
To some extent, but a lot of Metal guitarists crave more low end, and as such use closedback cabinet (like everyone else) in conjunction with 15" bass cabs. Granted, I don't completely agree that this is necessary if you actually have a bassplayer, but bassplayer-less bands like Pig Destroyer, Salome, Wormrot and a whole bunch others can make good use of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 27 Dec 2010, 10:56
It's cool, I'm a total noob about basically everything guitar- and amp-related. Was just a noobish idea from my noobish head. :)

In other news, I got a Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP for Christmas! :)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Johnny C on 27 Dec 2010, 11:59
Thats just my baby practice amp in the picture, my "real" amp is a Hot Rod Deluxe + 2 x 12" speaker cab.

your practice amp was my actual amp until i blew the speaker.

buying an amp today, i think, does anyone have any recs? here's what my band's like if you haven't heard it or forgot (http://theseestates.bandcamp.com) except now we're a three-piece so in addition to maintaining the like lightly abrasive tone it also needs volume. i was playing a fender deville that i really liked for our last gig, it was a borrowed amp.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 27 Dec 2010, 13:19
Here just figure out how I'm gonna get transported over and I'll just play rhythm guitar for you dude
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 27 Dec 2010, 13:20
I recommend one of these:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellyes/1797140257/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellyes/1797140257/)

http://tinyurl.com/2cytp6c (http://tinyurl.com/2cytp6c)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 27 Dec 2010, 13:56
Guys, should I buy a Super Hard On? I have an amazon giftcard burning a hole in my pocket and theres one going for cheap.
(Too lazy to dig up the old pedal thread)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 27 Dec 2010, 23:44
guys i
 :psyduck:
i don't really
 :psyduck:
i don't really understand signal chains
 :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

i have a wmd, a lil big muff, and a loop pedal, feeding into a pod. but since all four of those things have volume controls i don't really know what any of them should be. the rc-2, at the least, clips pretty easily, so i have to keep high gain down until it comes up in the loop.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Dec 2010, 02:30
Why don't you try plugging the Pod output into the looper's input, then out from there into whatever you're recording to

God this is another reason why I don't like those bloody Pods, they generally do not come with an effects loop. Does yours? If you're using a looper pedal you really oughta get something with an effects loop.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 28 Dec 2010, 02:57
If his is a rack mount like I think it is, it should. Mine is an older generation, but it still says it has a "stereo effects loop". I don't really do much more with mine than plug in an amp and speakers, though.

fake edit: Huh. Apparently they have three different Pod X3 models. So maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Dec 2010, 03:32
Hm. Maybe I was just looking at the wrong model then. I don't see what reason there should ever be for a multi-effect/amp modeling pedal to not support an external effects loop. Sure, it does everything, but does it do it the way I want it done? That and there is the issue of tweakability, signal fidelity issues inherent in digital equipment, and a lack of external variables that, to me, make musicmaking the well of limitless curiosity that it is to me.

Now, to expound that last sentence, for the sake of debate re: Pod vs. amp and pedals. Go ahead and tell me all about that hella sweet tone you found with your Pod. That's pretty interesting, sure!

Then I'll show you a tone setting that I found with my amp and my pedals, and then I'll show you what happens when I move the mic even an inch from where it had previously been. And then I'll show you what happens when I use a different mic. Then I'll move the amp and my pedals into a different room. Then I'll use two mics, a dedicated amp mic and a mic to pick up the sound of the walls resonating with the sound of my amp.

I mean, if you're just going for consistency, well, alright, all yours dude. But the only application I can think of that would really merit something like that would be in live performance situations. You can sound exactly like you did on your first album and then switch it up to the sound you had on your third, and you don't have to have a bunch of amps or pedals! If you're touring, more power to you!

But if you're recording, I really don't see why you would use a Pod for innovation. There is so much to take advantage of when you decline to use modeling technology, so much to experiment with, and so many variables that will alter the sound you produce which might ultimately inspire you to put that specific sound to another use. Hell, even the phase and location of the moon affects how your amp tubes (if applicable to your rig) process sound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 28 Dec 2010, 05:31
Why? Because name me something else that gives me this quality sound and this many options for this cheap. I'm a broke college student, with a lot of expensive hobbies. I got my pod pro for $100.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Dec 2010, 05:38
Plus living in an apartment building + recording with real amps = eviction.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 28 Dec 2010, 05:44
Is it possible to record from the headphone out? That would still remove Patrick's arguments about adjusting the sound by microphone selection and placement. Just wondering.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Dec 2010, 05:54
Yeah, I've recorded for ages with a cable from the output of my POD into my iMac. It's not the greatest by any stretch, but decent enough for demoing stuff at home.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Dec 2010, 06:07
Is it possible to record from the headphone out? That would still remove Patrick's arguments about adjusting the sound by microphone selection and placement. Just wondering.

I also forgot to mention the glory of feedback.

And Lummer that is not the experience I've had with apartment buildings and amps. There's the garage. And you can always record on weekdays while yr neighbors are off at work if there is no garage.

In Luxembourg, our apartment building also had an underground storage unit for each apartment. Handy as fuck for those of us with a love of loud noises.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 28 Dec 2010, 06:35
I am usually one of "the neighbours that are off at work." so... My experience is vastly different.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: StaedlerMars on 28 Dec 2010, 07:06
Okay, after me playing acoustic guitar for about a year (consistently), a friend of mine wants to play music together but he's thinking more electric, so...

I have 250 (350 dollars)(probably push to 300 but that would be painful to my bank accounts) I can spend on an electric guitar + amp. What do I do?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 28 Dec 2010, 07:10
I am a broke student who is buying a tube amp and effects pedals because while I can always eat ramen all semester, I can't get an awesome sound out of a pod.
I would much rather play through a tube amp and have a limited scope of sounds , but the perfect ones for what I want to do. Because that is what quality equipment is all about.
Also, I will probably own this amp, whatever I buy for the next thirty years, so you know..

My dorm building has a soundproof room in it especially for those of us who like very loud noises, which is awesome.
Yeah, you'll own that amp for 30 years. And the other one you buy when you want a different sound. And the other one you just fell in love with. And several guitars. We all know how this hobby goes, you don't buy one amp and live with it your whole life.

It's not a matter of cutting down on luxuries to buy something more expensive. It's a matter of getting something within my budget or opening a line of credit, I don't have other expenses to cut down on. I've got a policy of not spending money I don't have.

edit: Staedler, look on craigslist is my best suggestion.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 28 Dec 2010, 07:50
Nodaisho: Right on. I'm impressed that you won't spend money you don't have, especially on guitar equipment. That kind of responsibility took me about 35 years to acquire. And you're so right about the endless cycle of wanting new gear. I say if the pod sounds good enough to you, stick with it and ignore the naysayers. When you're good enough to record an album or go on tour, you will probably also have the funding for better equipment.

I'm a beginning guitarist, but I've already figured out that no amount of gear is going to make you play better. It seems the vast majority of guitarists (especially on TGP, of course) have yet to figure that out.


StaedlerMars: I second the vote for Craigslist. There are *always* a few different listings for guitar+amp combos around that price range. Don't expect a great guitar or a great amp, but it can get you started. There is a danger with buying crappy gear right off the bat, though. If it sounds like shit, you probably won't keep playing it.

I had a very limited budget when I went electric shopping and I'm happy with my setup. I have an Ibanez AS73 semi-hollow (around $200 used) and a Fender Blues Jr tube amp (around $250 used). There are plenty of other guitar and amp choices in that price range, too. MIM Fender guitars can be very cheap and still good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 28 Dec 2010, 08:42
Thats just my baby practice amp in the picture, my "real" amp is a Hot Rod Deluxe + 2 x 12" speaker cab.

your practice amp was my actual amp until i blew the speaker.


Do you know what it is? (nevermind i found it) I got mine at a pawnshop super cheap and they couldnt tell me much about it, looks like someone took the stickers off the back or something.

It works really well for my apartment, its basically got a "smaller" version of the sound from my Deluxe.

Also guys i finally looked up my Electra, it's an 1981 X420 ES 335 copy (sans f-holes) and was apparently the most expensive guitar Electra ever produced? This is what my google told me.

I just put flat wounds on it and it sounds INCREDIBLE.

ANOTHER EDIT: Question - How impossible is it to put a P90 in a guitar routed for humbuckers? For example...my guitar?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 28 Dec 2010, 09:01
Way I see it is that you could buy yourself a stagg piece of shit and then discover that the higher end epiphones are actually worth playing a few months down the line. sure, a good amp costs money, and so do effects, but you won't be needing a new good amp as quick as you will when you're just working with a pod. Long term, that's just going to cause you an even bigger headache.
What will I need a real amp for? I can practice with a pod through an old stereo amp and speakers, or through headphones. If I gig, I can plug it into the PA. I can record with it. If I wanted to do the environmental stuff I could play through the amp and speakers and record with a mic.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Dec 2010, 10:39
Um so I guess Xaviere/Guitar Fetish redesigned the JT series.

(http://www.guitarfetish.com/assets/images/JT100BK_C.jpg)
(http://www.guitarfetish.com/assets/images/JT100IV_F.jpg)
(http://www.guitarfetish.com/assets/images/JT100RR_C.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 28 Dec 2010, 10:54
I would do naughty naughy things for that white one. White jazzmasters with tort pickguards make the front of my pants feel tight.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 28 Dec 2010, 11:03
Holy F*, those beauties are $229 brand-freaking-new??!?!?!

I swore off buying new guitars because of the depreciation, but wow. I might have to break that week-old promise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Dec 2010, 11:04
I'm usually the same with red, but something about the tort just looks not right to me. I'd rather get the black or the white.

Or the hideous surf green one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 28 Dec 2010, 11:52
I thought of someplace else Staedler_Mars should look for a guitar and amp. Pawn shops. Just know what you are looking for, and it helps if you can tune by ear because those puppies are not going to be anywhere near in tune.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 28 Dec 2010, 13:14
I doubt he can tune by ear after a year of playing - I sure as hell can't! But maybe he can. That's great advice though - bring a tuner with you. I always forget mine.

Hell, I might just buy one of those cheap-but-awesome tuners (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWJ2K8?ie=UTF8&tag=wago-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003VWJ2K8) to keep in my car.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Dec 2010, 13:16
Some people have it, some don't. I've been playing for almost 10 years now, and I still suck/can't tune by ear.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 28 Dec 2010, 13:47
One of my weirdo cheapo copies i never play:

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/gitar1.jpg)

It's pretty sweet looking, no?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 28 Dec 2010, 14:50
that is a ridiculously large head. that's what she said.



also, re: pod v amp, i like my pod. for what i want it for, it does things good. i don't really understand this whole "effects loop" shit but Oh Well. still trying to figure out optimal pedal volume versus master volume, but that'll come, too!

(also, i tried setting up the loop pedal after the pod, but as far as i can tell it outputs in mono, which sucks for hooking headphones up to.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Dec 2010, 14:52
Those old Tiesco/Kay/Whatever always had frigging huge headstocks.

The cushion on the right side of yr couch looks like my old couch. Weird.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 28 Dec 2010, 16:40
It's a "Kingston", lol. The head is really big, but the body is also really small. its definitely a weird one. can anyone tell me if those pickups are strange p-90s?

Anybody want a memory man?

EVRYONE WANTS TO BUY A PEDAL FROM THE GUY WITH 6 POSTS

edit: better judgement
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 29 Dec 2010, 06:55
no :( / yes :)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 29 Dec 2010, 10:32
It's a "Kingston", lol. The head is really big, but the body is also really small. its definitely a weird one. can anyone tell me if those pickups are strange p-90s?

Anybody want a memory man?

EVRYONE WANTS TO BUY A PEDAL FROM THE GUY WITH 6 POSTS

edit: better judgement

Your pickups are definately singlecoils, but not specifically P90's, although a lot of weird old vintagey guitars were fitted with pickups designed around P90-like covers.
P90's were developed and made by Gibson in the mid forties IIRC. A lot o larger singlecoil pickups are often incorrectly referred to as p90's such as jazzmaster-style pickups which sound nothing like them at all, but look the part.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 29 Dec 2010, 12:59
Jazzmaster pick-ups look like (but don't sound like) generic soapbar pick-ups. P-90s have a distinct appearance.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 29 Dec 2010, 13:13
Indeed. They're much narrower.

Mini-humbuckers were designed to fit in P-90 routs, as I learned a few months ago. Interesting fact.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 29 Dec 2010, 15:58
My X3Live definitely has efx loops. Stereo. But I don't use them. Because TT has just INPUT and I've figured out how to make the things what need the loopiness do what I want without. Also recording out of the two xlr outs or playing into the PA is amazingly good sounding. But I don't do that live because I never figured out how to organize my options and the volume that sound level and normalize live out into the TT is not the same through the XLR outs. I think it has to do with the cabinet/mic emulation. But it really does sound good direct into the recorder. You just have to tweak those volumes or record things on other tracks to make the volume not spike or be too low. I understand why it isn't for everyone. But I have about eleventy-thrix broken stomp pedals and enjoy just playing the X3Live + not worrying which patch cord/pedal/battery/power supply/laughing gnome broke my signal chain this time. My POD did break about 8 months after buying it. It was under warranty and I was back in action in about a week or two. Also Fuck You line6. My butt hair is thicker than that power supply cable. Fucknutz. A $500 pedal deserves at least $0.20 more copper and insulation. You are bitches and I will live to punch someone in the fucking face for that. I'm on my second one and the half of the cable that runs from the transformer to the jack is liable to get skint.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 29 Dec 2010, 18:29
I'm using the standard bean-shaped X3, so no FX loop for me. As someone playing more bedroom rock than anything else, it suits my needs perfectly. When I require more, I'll also have the money for it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 29 Dec 2010, 20:52
Indeed. They're much narrower.

Mini-humbuckers were designed to fit in P-90 routs, as I learned a few months ago. Interesting fact.

You still have to get adapters to fit them correctly, ya?

Otherwise, GuitarFetish is trying to sell me useless shit!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Dec 2010, 03:07
Well, yes, of course you should probably get the mount to put your pickup in. That way it isn't just there flopping around in the rout.

And if you played too hard it'd flop out and dangle around by the wire and that is just super ugly
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 30 Dec 2010, 07:50
And if you played too hard it'd flop out and dangle around by the wire and that is just super ugly

Strong boarding, Patrick.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Dec 2010, 14:20
Er, thanks!

You could just epoxy it in place and put wood filler in the gaps, then repaint your whole guitar!

That is a pretty expensive way to mount a pickup. I'm quite fond of my Jag's stock setup. They didn't fuck around, instead of screwing it into the pickguard (wtf, no wonder Strats sound so quacky) they just straight up used wood screws to mount the pickup into the wood. Tough-ass heavy foam padding underneath. Inexpensive process, and nice results.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 30 Dec 2010, 19:39
mount put in flopping around hard flop out and dangle around super ugly

That is all I read of your post.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Jan 2011, 09:22
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and the clap
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 01 Jan 2011, 10:05
You kinda set the bar for doing that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 02 Jan 2011, 12:09
There is absolutely no bar too high.

I'm in the planning stages again and you guys better be very, very afraid of what will happen over the course of the next year.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 02 Jan 2011, 15:40
Ugh, that reminds me that my Squire is still sitting in the corner collecting dust. The biggest thing standing in my way between that Strat and being Totally Awesome is that the fretboard is unadulterated shit, and I'm not sure if I could stand actually using it. Also, pickups are hella expensive yo.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 03 Jan 2011, 05:03
Looks like GFS has gotten into the SG, Les Paul with p-90s and Les Paul, Jr. market, all for under 2 bones-

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xaviere-Electric-Guitars_c_116.html

I would've thought they would go with block or trapezoid inlays on the sg.  Something looks a little off about them.  I'd still try it out.  And, the TV yellow P90 Les Paul is pretty sweet.

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 03 Jan 2011, 06:17
hey, that's pretty cool! i'm still looking into buying an sg, but there are so many different makes i get a little confused.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Jan 2011, 08:42
No SG Junior. =/

I emailed them a while back...I guess they'll be coming out with a line of basses pretty soon, as well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 03 Jan 2011, 09:00
Guess who's coming out with a tribute bass to the Ovation Magnum.

These Guys. These guys right here. (http://www.myrareguitars.com/new-eastwood-magnum-bass-guitar)

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/eastwood-magnum-electric-bass-guitar-sunburst-01.jpg)

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/eastwood-magnum-electric-bass-guitar-sunburst-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 03 Jan 2011, 16:12
Guess who's coming out with a tribute bass to the Ovation Magnum.

These Guys. These guys right here. (http://www.myrareguitars.com/new-eastwood-magnum-bass-guitar)

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/eastwood-magnum-electric-bass-guitar-sunburst-01.jpg)

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/eastwood-magnum-electric-bass-guitar-sunburst-02.jpg)

Cool, but the best part of the Magnum was that huge bridge.  I suppose you could get away with swapping a Ric bridge, but it's not quite the same.  (The model with built in graphic equalizer was pretty cool, too).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Jan 2011, 16:14
What's with you bassists and loving tons and tons of electronics?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 03 Jan 2011, 16:24
This one's just a volume knob and tone knob (whcih was technically the set up for the Magnum II, which has a different body shape).  But your point is well taken, typically it's the bassplayers who have the most crazy and universally accepted breaks from tradition.  Guitars change a little, but for the most part the biggest sellers are still a strat and les paul, and to a lesser extent, the tele.  None of those have had many lasting changes since the 50's.

That said, I'm personally a p-bass direct in kind of guy.  I don't like a lot of bells and whistles on my basses, or my guitars for that matter.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 03 Jan 2011, 16:43
I finally got myself a Big Muff today, after years of wanting one but never quite getting around to it.
I love this pedal so much, I would make love to it if I could.

It can even make the Squier Bronco sound diabolical!

My cousin, who used to play bass, recently extend-a-loan'd me his Little Big Muff, and I'm in love with it. It looks like we have identical models, which is kind of weird given Electro-Harmonix' track record of changing up their pedals on a regular basis. I've heard REALLY good things about the Sovtek Big Muffs, but I haven't gotten my hands on one yet.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 03 Jan 2011, 18:46
So i bought a new guitar today. It's another hollowbody...I couldnt help myself! Its so pretty!

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/newguitar002.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/newguitar001.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 04 Jan 2011, 04:03
well, it seems ESP and Ibanez are very mindful of my finances this year, since they've released absolutely NOTHING new worth owning this year.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 04 Jan 2011, 07:48
The Ibanez Japan site has a lot of really cool new artcores, without that stupid lightning bolt graphic on the headstock.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 09:38
(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2010/AMF73T_TF_12_01.png)

Pssh, the US version doesn't have a bigsby. =(
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Jan 2011, 09:54
What's with that stamp beneath the f-hole? That's distracting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 10:01
Goes back a long time. Gibson did it with the ES-335s, most acoustic guitars have a stamp in the soundhole, as well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Jan 2011, 10:55
well, it seems ESP and Ibanez are very mindful of my finances this year, since they've released absolutely NOTHING new worth owning this year.

Did you forget the Apex-100 and the RG2560ZEX?

RG2560ZEX
(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2010/RG2560ZEX_DST_00_01.png)

Apex-100
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_XQuyOOpdt-I/TR9deWGR9RI/AAAAAAAAAYg/Kg1C7oRJMos/s1600/APEX100_TFB.jpg)


They're like strats only I fucking love them because they are actually great playing instruments!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 04 Jan 2011, 11:25
ugly super-strats

uglyyy
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 11:30
Hey, more new offsets. That Strat jack and the concentric knobs confuse the shit out of me, though:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1371.snc4/164378_10150364992550447_207400005446_16475998_7044919_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Micool789 on 04 Jan 2011, 11:39
I just don't trust squiers
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 11:56
Get yr trust genes tweaked.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 04 Jan 2011, 11:59
yeah dude squiers are fun! they are cheap and you can beat them up and mod them and all sorts of other fun stuff.

get into squiers!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 13:12
I had my heart set on those Xavier JM clones, but man..I just straight up prefer hardtail guitars.

Plus from other info I've seen, the other JM color is 2-tone burst, late 50s style. Unnnnnnnnnnnf.


edit: Plus my stupid guitar eliteness just wants a damn guitar with "JAZZMASTER" on the headstock. I guess Street Price on them is going to be $300, so not too much more than the Xavieres. There's a few new Squier Jag basses coming out as well
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 04 Jan 2011, 15:23
Man yes those are tasty, except for the strat jacks, I have a fair aversion to those. They're supposed to be better for technical reasons I guess but as a non-guitarist I just don't give a shit. They ugly. I'm with ya on hardtails though Shane and that matte-black pickguard on the JM is hawt.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 15:26
Counterpoint: Flip the jack inside out like Patrick did with his Bullet. Insta-less lame.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 04 Jan 2011, 15:43
I was seriously considering grabbing one of the blacktop jaguars from guitar center today just for giggles after my dentist appointment.  Unfortunately, the dentist had a surprise root canal for me so my five hundred bucks I planned on pissing away at GC went to him instead.

So sad.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jan 2011, 15:53
I hope he's not one of those horrid Bloozdentists.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jan 2011, 07:10
Here's the sunburst VM JM. I'm sold. I may get a fake gold pickguard for it, but who knows.

(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9905/squierjazz2.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jan 2011, 09:38
GORGEOUS.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 05 Jan 2011, 17:36
With only two knobs, what are you adjusting on the pickups?

Also maybe the only reason I'd want one of my own is for the adjustable-intonation bridge. Fuck me if my '67 does not have the most annoying bridge of all time ever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 05 Jan 2011, 20:54
With only two knobs, what are you adjusting on the pickups?


I dont understand this question?

Its got a volume, tone, and pickup selector like any other guitar im sure.

I think i must be pretty lame, im not a big fan of danos...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 05 Jan 2011, 23:46
I was just confused as to whether each knob controlled both pickups simultaneously or not. It kind of sucks if that's the case, but to be honest the wiring in my Dano is shoddy enough that adjusting the tone for either pickup has some cross-play.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: squawk on 06 Jan 2011, 03:01
god damn it i miss my dano
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 06 Jan 2011, 04:12
Shit, I kinda want a Dano again.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jan 2011, 05:55
I was just confused as to whether each knob controlled both pickups simultaneously or not. It kind of sucks if that's the case, but to be honest the wiring in my Dano is shoddy enough that adjusting the tone for either pickup has some cross-play.

Yeah, it's master volume and master tone. Like on a Telecaster.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 06 Jan 2011, 06:46
I picked up an MXR 10-band EQ last night from a shady dude in a Hardee's parking lot. Haven't been able to use it.

My girlfriend got me a Bass Big Muff Pi for Christmas, though. It is the one with the bass boost switch. It can go from face-melting bass distortion to a kind of subdued rocking edgy bass-y bliss.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 06 Jan 2011, 07:57
god damn it i miss my dano

Wait you got rid of yr Dano? Why on earth would you do that
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 06 Jan 2011, 11:02
This is arguably the wrong forum, but... if you haven't already, check out Kick by Panico (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042NDW4C?ie=UTF8&tag=wago-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0042NDW4C). Good surf-y guitar and fun basslines. I think you bass people might enjoy some of the fuzzy bass tones. It's on sale at Amazon for only $5 right now, too.

Don't hate on the questionable vocals - they're an acquired taste, I guess.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 06 Jan 2011, 12:53
Yeah, it's master volume and master tone. Like on a Telecaster.
I'm weird I guess. I never really use the control that my Les Paul gives me, but I really don't like the idea of going without it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jan 2011, 15:24
So i bought a new guitar today. It's another hollowbody...I couldnt help myself! Its so pretty!

Why would you want to 'help' yourself if it means not having hollowbodies? They're perfect.

*Runs off to learn to play black mountain side*

I'll teach you if you want. Hint 1: DADGAD
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 06 Jan 2011, 16:59
Thats true, but i spent like 2 weeks thinking about all the ideas i had for getting a tele, or even an LP copy and teaching myself to mod shit... then i ended up with a guitar without an open control cavity!

Whatevers though, now i have an excuse to mess with the electra. I just installed a P-90 in the bridge today (my first mod of any type) and im thinking trapeze tailpiece. y/n?

my P-90 is humbucker size, but still...im pretty proud.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/moddy002.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: squawk on 06 Jan 2011, 23:03
Wait you got rid of yr Dano? Why on earth would you do that

nah man i'm just in a dorm this year so i can't bring it with me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jan 2011, 05:48
I'd recommend that little Vox AC4TV, but even on the 1/4 watt setting, it gets kinda loud.
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Post by: Bearer on 07 Jan 2011, 11:17
Thats true, but i spent like 2 weeks thinking about all the ideas i had for getting a tele, or even an LP copy and teaching myself to mod shit... then i ended up with a guitar without an open control cavity!

Whatevers though, now i have an excuse to mess with the electra. I just installed a P-90 in the bridge today (my first mod of any type) and im thinking trapeze tailpiece. y/n?

my P-90 is humbucker size, but still...im pretty proud.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/moddy002.jpg)

put this on it:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_tailpieces/Hipshot_Baby_Grand_Bridge.html
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Post by: Ballard on 07 Jan 2011, 11:22
Hey Anna:

http://www.voxamps.com/amplug/
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Post by: Cernunnos on 07 Jan 2011, 12:09
So for christmas my dad gave me a $100 gift certificate to guitarfetish. I just made a $99.49 order including shipping. My Squier strat will soon have one pickup (their PAF sized widerange clone thingy in bridge position), one volume (chrome plated brass tele style knob, my favorite), finally a trem arm (hope it fits) and some other goodies. I should probably be nervous about the wiring job, but hell i've done crazier things with solder. It shall slay.
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 Jan 2011, 12:14
Congrats Cernunnos!

In other news... Dan Auerbach or Jack White? I can't decide who's music I like better.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jan 2011, 13:24
This is what a Rickenbacker 330, a Gibson ES-335, a Hofner violin bass, and a drum kit from my favorite bar all sound like together.

Also I guess there's voices too and stuff but we're gonna redo them

I do all the pleasin' with you, it's so hard to reason with *youuuuuuuu* (http://patrickjames.bandcamp.com/track/please-please-me)
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Post by: squawk on 07 Jan 2011, 14:16
I already have a mini fender twin amp! it is TWEED! but uh... it stopped working like right before i left for school...
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Post by: squawk on 07 Jan 2011, 14:17
i mean like i'm sure it's fixable i just don't know HOW
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Post by: squawk on 07 Jan 2011, 14:18
And sure it's written in the rules "no amplified instruments" but no one gives a shit, there's a dude in the building across who was hauling in an orange amp and then i heard it across the quad that day and oh god so beautiful

And uhh I'm just gonna go ahead and triple post whateverrrr i forgot that not everything is facebook

edit: pagebreak? oh god damn it that's what I get
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 Jan 2011, 14:33
Did you check the tubes? I'm no expert, but that's pretty easy to do (preamp tubes, at least).
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jan 2011, 14:36
The Fender mini Twin contains exactly 0% tubes. It's powered by a 9v battery.
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Post by: BlahBlah on 07 Jan 2011, 14:59
i mean like i'm sure it's fixable i just don't know HOW
(http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=7217;type=avatar)
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Post by: squawk on 07 Jan 2011, 15:08
yeah it seems like a very simple problem. like perhaps the on switch isn't working. or. something. i took the back cover off and then just kind of left it at that, i was going to get my sister's physics ph.d fiance to take a look at it but i forgot

and yes i am beef
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jan 2011, 15:26
I'd be happy to take a look for you at some point (let me know when you're around), I imagine it's most likely something to do with either the switch you mentioned or the input jack. I don't imagine the pots going bad on the knobs.
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Post by: Kwaping on 08 Jan 2011, 06:41
The Fender mini Twin contains exactly 0% tubes. It's powered by a 9v battery.

I had a strong feeling my reply was going to end up being stupid, but I posted it anyway.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2011, 09:55
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1375.snc4/164696_173302589371196_112433198791469_408248_4176475_n.jpg)
V a guy from Kauer gts is making
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?fbid=173001972734591&id=112433198791469&aid=36325
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Post by: The Duke on 08 Jan 2011, 23:26
I dig that.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Jan 2011, 07:03
Yeah, lately I have been liking the Flying V's. I've never really played one much. I think I just like weird shaped guitars. Maybe the idea more than the actually playing them. Except for sated playing, the V always looked like a logical layout for guitar/body/controls/pickups.
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Post by: Lummer on 09 Jan 2011, 12:31
Flying V's are easy to play sitting down, actually.

And they are AWESOME
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Post by: Melodic on 09 Jan 2011, 15:09
guys why are sg standards like two thousand bucks what the shit i want one
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Post by: PintsizesBloodyCock on 09 Jan 2011, 15:42
guys why are sg standards like two thousand bucks what the shit i want one

SG Special Faded. Replace the pickups and you have a better guitar for less money, and the finish feels awesome.
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Post by: Patrick on 09 Jan 2011, 16:46
Just uh, make sure it never breaks, ever. If it breaks and you swap the pickups yourself, you've voided the warranty. And Gibson are a bunch of dicks when it comes to their warranty and customer service areas.
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Post by: squawk on 10 Jan 2011, 00:28
i accidentally deleted my post about the squier jagmaster i found today in the guitar shop. i will acquire it someday, though. but luckily i don't have to impulsively buy it like two days from now.
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Post by: Melodic on 10 Jan 2011, 00:45
good thing too, cause it was ugly as fuck!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Jan 2011, 04:07
Dogg a Gibson SG standard is $1200.

That is perfectly reasonable.
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Post by: Lummer on 10 Jan 2011, 06:13
An SG standard is still pretty cheap around here in Denmark, all things considered.
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Post by: Lummer on 10 Jan 2011, 06:44
And by the way...

This, is a p90:

http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/downloads/soundclips/p90s/pig_90/pig_90-modern_metal_clip.mp3

Holy shit.
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Post by: Ballard on 10 Jan 2011, 06:57
Holy fuck, that's awesome.

I love Bare Knuckles.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jan 2011, 08:46
i accidentally deleted my post about the squier jagmaster i found today in the guitar shop. i will acquire it someday, though. but luckily i don't have to impulsively buy it like two days from now.

Be quick, Anna. I found a Vista Jagmaster two years ago in Boston, and then saw a thread on OSG the next day from the guy who bought it.
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Jan 2011, 10:27
Well, as soon as they are available on UK guitar sites, I'm getting a red Squier Jaguar. I don't care that it has a strat jack and no switches, its basically a better looking, named, and probably better built guitar than the Jagmaster. And "Jagmaster" is a horrible name in comparison. Although more than likely they will be around £300, meaning the trouble of squier for £300 or fender blacktop for £450 will trouble me. But fuck it, its been literally years since i last purchased a guitar.

I had a funny feeling it was only a matter of time before Squier thought "...offsets now?". The CV series is acclaimed so they won't have any trouble selling them.

As far as Flying Vs go, I do quite like them in a "play one but wouldn't probably own one" kind of way.

Although...
(http://www.strumstrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/reverse_flying_v1.jpg)


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Post by: doombilly on 10 Jan 2011, 10:29
Does that arrow come with a bow?
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Jan 2011, 10:33
If it breaks, put the original pickups back in there?

The fact that you've clipped the wires is enough for them to just flat out say "No. You've fucked with this. This is SO not on us." They will not work on it, guaranteed. Even if it's a headstock break.

As for the reverse V, Shane and I came to a consensus that it was an arrow that the guitarist would hold up vertically by the body to show who the biggest dickhead onstage was.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jan 2011, 10:48
That or have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard.
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Post by: squawk on 10 Jan 2011, 12:49
good thing too, cause it was ugly as fuck!  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

perhaps but the important thing is how it would look in my hands specifically, which was and is fucking awesome

i just have weirdly specific tastes in everything.
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Post by: Lummer on 10 Jan 2011, 13:30
If it breaks, put the original pickups back in there?

The fact that you've clipped the wires is enough for them to just flat out say "No. You've fucked with this. This is SO not on us." They will not work on it, guaranteed. Even if it's a headstock break.

As for the reverse V, Shane and I came to a consensus that it was an arrow that the guitarist would hold up vertically by the body to show who the biggest dickhead onstage was.

Clipped the wires? Seriously, what the hell was your tech on when he swapped the pups? That is just ridiculous.
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Jan 2011, 13:34
Its not the worst thing Gibson has done.

(http://guitarnoize.com/images/blog/gibson_hendrix.jpg)

but at least they slightly covered their tracks with this one.

Its not that I'm not into whacky or strange looking guitars, like those ridiculous ones from the early 70s when having 14 switches and 4 pickups was a good idea. Its just that Gibson think what they did was actually a good idea.

As for clipping wires, d-whaaa?
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jan 2011, 13:37
Did those ever go into production? I remember the entire planet going up in arms when they announced those, and then...nothing.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Jan 2011, 13:38
Yeah Gibson torpedoed that. They're still making the Firebird-X though, so there's still plenty of ammunition available to Gibson-haters.

EDIT: Also, like, the Zoot Suit SG, the Dusk Tiger, actually every fucking robot guitar ever. Jesus.
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Post by: The Duke on 10 Jan 2011, 13:48
Flying V's are easy to play sitting down, actually.

And they are AWESOME

Really?  That's fascinating, it seems to me like they would just slide right off your leg.  Hmmm.  That is pretty awesome.


...have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard [of the reverse Flying V].

Haha, nice
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Post by: Lummer on 10 Jan 2011, 14:17
You just play the V in classical position. Pretty simple.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Jan 2011, 14:18
Protip: put your right knee in the middle of the V.

Like so:

(http://www.flying-v.ch/nickelback/chad_75_pb.jpg)

(yeah I know it's fuckface from Nickelback but it's the best picture I could find demonstrating what I mean)
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jan 2011, 14:45
Yeah Gibson torpedoed that. They're still making the Firebird-X though, so there's still plenty of ammunition available to Gibson-haters.

EDIT: Also, like, the Zoot Suit SG, the Dusk Tiger, actually every fucking robot guitar ever. Jesus.

The worst Robot is the "Les Paul Junior"..because goddammit Gibson, it has TWO pickups. Juniors had one, Specials had two. Jackwagons.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Jan 2011, 14:52
Protip: put your right knee in the middle of the V.

Like so:

(http://fuckface.fuk/assbag.jpg)

(yeah I know it's fuckface from Nickelback but it's the best picture I could find demonstrating what I mean)
That is instructional, but he is having coitus with the tiny string-through holes in the back, not actually playing. True story. I read it on the internet.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Jan 2011, 15:29
Buh.

I never thought of holding a guitar like that. I wonder if it would work with my Les Paul. It should if it is referred to as classical position, right? I always cramp up my shoulder trying to play sitting down with any amount of speed. Being able to extend it more should really help.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jan 2011, 15:44
Correct. It is "classical" position. I use it a good chunk of the time with my Telecaster.
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Post by: celticgeek on 10 Jan 2011, 16:41
I always hold my guitars like that, but then I only play "classical" guitars. 
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Jan 2011, 17:19
Clipped the wires? Seriously, what the hell was your tech on when he swapped the pups? That is just ridiculous.

Wasn't my guitar, just a horror story I heard. As per mine, they seriously tried to give me shit about my pickup height not being factory standard, which is a "clear indication" that I had replaced the pickups and then put the originals back to fuck with them. They tried to give me shit about neglecting it, they tried to give me shit about buckle rash. FUCK Gibson.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Jan 2011, 18:00
I tried it, and I find that it works depending on the chair you are in. I was sitting in a drum throne, and it was pretty untenable, but sitting on a wider chair it works great.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 10 Jan 2011, 21:16
That or have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard.
But the audience won't be able to read it if you stand by the drummer constantly.
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Post by: Ballard on 11 Jan 2011, 08:37
Does that arrow come with a bow?
Does if you play guitar for Sigur Ros.

o/

Also the zoot suit SG is beautiful

I'm probably the only person on this forum who agrees.
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Post by: The Duke on 11 Jan 2011, 14:02
That or have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard.
But the audience won't be able to read it if you stand by the drummer constantly.

buuuuurn


Ballard: tuathal, you, and I make three.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jan 2011, 14:04
It's a hat trick of wrong!
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Jan 2011, 14:28
in the beginning there was a squier strat.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/5347526694_1d00cae654_z.jpg)

and then there was a split single coil/ humbuckery bridge pickup and shiny volume knob
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5286/5346917703_22f8fd0852_z.jpg)

and it was good.

Please excuse the crappy photo, i may take better ones later.
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Post by: Lummer on 11 Jan 2011, 14:34
That. is. awesome.

Guys, I want a LP Jr. NOW!
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jan 2011, 14:37
Aw dang, Jon. Not a Strat guy, but I do enjoy good mods. Nice jorb!

(psst, let me know how the humbucker sounds. Been thinking about getting one for my Tele)
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Post by: Melodic on 11 Jan 2011, 15:16
Hey Jon, that looks really good! How much did the mod cost you? I've got a Bullet here waiting to be torn apart, but I haven't been able to find any decent humbuckers that cost less than the guitar is worth.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 11 Jan 2011, 15:27
I wouldn't call myself good at reading pickups, but it seems pretty versatile. From what i can tell it's actually a split single coil, and it sure sounds good and twangy in the bridge position but with distortion it sounds way more like a humbucker and I like it way better than my tele's single coils for that. So far it's got my approval. Sure beats the weakass nasal pickups that were in it before. That being said, I just put new strings on so it'll be a few days before i know exactly what they sound like.

Fraser: it cost me $99.49, but that includes the cost of shipping, a trem arm that didn't fit, two nuts, a soldering iron, and an extra knob because it came in a set of two. The pickup itself was about 30 bucks i think.
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Jan 2011, 03:32
One pickup, one knob is the way to go. Or If I did it, I think no knob. But definitely I like the idea of a guitar with no controls or very few (says the guys with too many do-whatzits). In other news I'm getting guitar wood for these daylighters I'm watching get their colors on fbook.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs740.ash1/163286_179924945375627_112433198791469_453034_3699712_n.jpg)
Kauer gtrs. I'm not enthused about the head stock but I could live w/ it.
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Post by: Lummer on 12 Jan 2011, 03:35
Oh man.

Ooooh man.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 12 Jan 2011, 07:01
well, this picture is a little better, and you can see the pearloidiness. The guitar is really shiny now. you can also see the scuff mark in the poly finish where i would stick a pick under the pickguard. can't do that now.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5002/5348719605_b59b0d30e1_z.jpg)

okay i'll stop spamming.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 12 Jan 2011, 07:17
That is really nice work sir. You had me searching for single hole pickguards for a while. hurr.

Does anyone else like their copy more than the  guitar its a copy of? My electra plays and sounds better than any ES-335 i've ever played. The neck is deliciously thin, the neck pickup is SUPER LOUD AND BASSY. So much so that ive modeled my entire sound around it and pretty much feel incomplete playing anything else.

Others must feel this way about their geetars?
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Jan 2011, 08:25
I like my hollowbody for everything but the combined pickup sound. Which is a shame. I may rectify this by replacing the pickups with Lollar or Novak PAF reissues.

I have never liked original Fender Strats but I have a huge crush on Squier and knockoff ones.

Also Jon <3
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Post by: Cernunnos on 12 Jan 2011, 08:51
woo squier modding o/

As for Strats, I like strats! Not everything about them, though. The selector switch is too easy to hit while playing, having two tone knobs is unnecessary, and for having three pickups I would have hoped they'd have more tones that I actually like (that last one is more about my personal taste). Aside from that, the ergonomics are superb, they feel great and play nice and look nice too. They're kind of victims of their own popularity and ubiquity and I don't know as that's really fair. 
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Jan 2011, 08:59
I don't think I could really live with the single pickup plus volume approach myself. I tend to change around with coils-splitting and positions a lot, and I reallly don't want to buy a ton of guitars for every setting, sure it looks pretty cool/trupunx/whatever sometimes but i really wouldn't want to miss out on either filthy strat-tones, glassy cleans or Ka-Thwumps.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 12 Jan 2011, 13:29
So...

I just looked up the pedal thread to see what everyone had to say about the subject.

I never realized i had so many desirable pedals!

Boss CE-2 chorus (never use)
EHX Deluxe Memory Man (never use)
Boss FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz
Boss PS-3 Pitch Shifter/Delay

There are more, but I really only use delay with any regulartiy. I actually really like the Dan-Echo, its pretty warm sounding.
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Jan 2011, 14:48
woo squier modding o/

As for Strats, I like strats! Not everything about them, though. The selector switch is too easy to hit while playing, having two tone knobs is unnecessary, and for having three pickups I would have hoped they'd have more tones that I actually like (that last one is more about my personal taste). Aside from that, the ergonomics are superb, they feel great and play nice and look nice too. They're kind of victims of their own popularity and ubiquity and I don't know as that's really fair. 

\o

Idunno about the selector switch, I've never accidentally hit a Strat switch in my life, clone or otherwise. The volume knob, though, is positioned very poorly though. It is absolutely impossible to palm mute a Strat like you would any other guitar; the bottom of your hand is absolutely guaranteed to hit that volume knob no matter what unless you change your picking hand's posture. And that is super uncomfortable and makes you sacrifice a lot of speed and accuracy.

We do agree on the same basic thing though: one should never have to alter their playing style to accomodate the guitar they're using. It's not faaaaaair.
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Jan 2011, 16:14
Jon, Patrick, would love some tips on Squire fuckery. Wanna swap out pickups, pickguard, and repaint mine. Never used a solder iron, never fucked with wiring on a guitar before.
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Post by: Bearer on 12 Jan 2011, 17:02
Way easier than you'd think.  A kick-ass mod I have on my strat is a switch that bypasses the pickup selector so the bridge pickup can be always on.  This gives a telecaster like sound when used with the neck pickup, and an almost acoustic shimmery sound when used with the neck/middle.

This video kind of sucks, but it's what I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07YyulSEQo0
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Post by: Cernunnos on 12 Jan 2011, 18:26
I would agree that it's surprisingly easy. There are lots of resources available online for wiring charts, the one i used was Seymour Duncan's site, which has a whole bunch of them in nearly every conceivable arrangement. There are also many different places to order parts from like stewart mcdonald, guitarfetish USAGC and warmoth for starters. The issue that sticks out in my mind of being the most problematic is ensuring compatibility - what kind of pickups is your guitar routed for, what kind of volume and tone potentiometers do the pickups require (250k? 500k? it will say on the wiring chart), does the pickguard have the same number of screwholes as the old one (mine didn't, but it just meant i had to drill a few holes. Scary! count before you buy so you can order more screws if you need to. hell, just order a bunch anyways), does it even fit - that kind of thing. If you're thinking of different strat pickups, you're in luck because there are a billion different kinds and they'll all fit that standard pickguard shape unless otherwise noted.

As for soldering, I used 60/40 rosin core electrical solder, and from what I read, it is absolutely imperative that it be rosin core. They also make lead-free rosin-core solder, which is apparently slightly trickier but hey, there ain't lead in it. If joining two wires, wrap them together so they have a solid mechanical bond in addition to the solder bond. there are a bunch of youtube videos that explain and show this way better. It may seem like overkill, but wear safety glasses. solder's hot. Work in a well - ventilated area. That's all i can think of at the moment. Finishing is a whole 'nother kettle of fish which i am kind of terrified about a little.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Jan 2011, 07:46
Jon, Patrick, would love some tips on Squire fuckery. Wanna swap out pickups, pickguard, and repaint mine. Never used a solder iron, never fucked with wiring on a guitar before.

You do know that at one point I had the pickup wires held to the pickup switch with packaging tape, right?
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jan 2011, 08:13
troopunx.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Jan 2011, 08:54
Jon's probably doesn't give him asstons of microphonic feedback though...
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Post by: Christophe on 13 Jan 2011, 09:36
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1356.snc4/162869_10150118726251928_373652071927_8071143_4201727_n.jpg)

Guitar lineup for my band's show last night. L-R Squier P-Bass, my Fender Lead II and my new Douglas Melody Maker copy (Rondo Music BIATCH), guitarist's Epiphone Les Paul.
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jan 2011, 11:03
AWWWWWWWWWW RONDO!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Jan 2011, 12:20
Fuck yeah Douglas/Agile and Fender Lead!
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Post by: Ballard on 13 Jan 2011, 12:47
It's also less likely to electrocute him to death.
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Jan 2011, 14:27
I don't know how to solder, but I do know how to google. :)

Practice kit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009Z3JJA?ie=UTF8&tag=wago-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0009Z3JJA), so you don't fuck up your guitar by learning on it!

Walkthrough (http://www.aaroncake.net/electronics/solder.htm)

Links to many other resources (http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2007/01/its_learn_to_solder_month.html)
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Jan 2011, 14:30
Unrelated to to the modding discussion...

How do I play so that my notes blend together better, instead of going "plink plink plink" very distinctly? My current playing sounds like a five-year-old sitting at a piano.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Jan 2011, 22:08
Listen to Billy Talent. I've caught shit for showing love for them before, but Ian D'Sa is basically the greatest genius I can think of who makes a living out of contemporary popular music. It's to the point where, quite honestly, I feel justified in being as belligerent a dick about that guitarist as I want. The man is made of solid gold, even if the rest of the band is composed of talentless fuckholes who just play/sing the most basic accompaniment possible to his baller-ass playing.

He is one of my prime influences as far as playing style goes, and he ranks with George Harrison and Jimi Hendrix there. I refuse to take that back.
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Jan 2011, 23:13
you just like his hair, cunt
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Jan 2011, 23:31
also, i just bought a squier precision bass clone for fifty bucks and am going to spraypaint the living fuck out of it!
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Post by: Lummer on 13 Jan 2011, 23:54
I just sent an E-mail to Tim from Bare Knuckle to get him to make me a disgusting-sounding pickup for my 7-string.

 :psyduck:
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 14 Jan 2011, 01:11
I've  been playing about 4 years and my first guitar, Squier affinity Strat, is in pretty good shape considering all I've put it through, it really has been a workhorse. But, probably reflecting its Indonesian manufacture, the jack socket is completely shot. Worse still, the jack plate is constantly loose as one of the two screws has scraped away the thread in the wood where it's been wearing away over the years. I guess the solution is to drill a larger hole, get a screw to match and file at the hole in the plate so it fits.

I've also been considering upgrades for the pickups and I'm after authentic vintage sounds with modern leanings rather than all out rock death machines.

Is it worth saving her for the sentimental value or should I save up for a Mexican built Strat?
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Post by: Akima on 14 Jan 2011, 01:37
Worse still, the jack plate is constantly loose as one of the two screws has scraped away the thread in the wood has been worn away over the years. I guess the solution is to drill a larger hole, get a screw to match and file at the hole in the plate so it fits.
I've never worked on a guitar (so anyone who has, please jump in if what I propose would be bad), but I have restored several pieces of furniture with loose hinges, lock-plates etc. and I would suggest an alternative approach:

1. Drill the hole just enough larger to get to unchewed wood.
2. Shape a wooden dowel or plug to fit the hole. Make it a little longer than required to reach the bottom.
3. Glue the peg and tap it into the hole until it strikes bottom.
4. Let the glue dry thoroughly.
5. Trim the excess peg off with a sharp chisel. Go slowly, take a little at a time. Don't try to whack it off in one go.
6. Mark and drill a suitable hole for the old screw, and screw it it. No need to bodge the jack plate. Done!


You could use car-body filler instead of gluing in a plug. It works, but I like to restore wood with wood.
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Post by: Ballard on 14 Jan 2011, 04:55
Akima is right. I've done exactly that with a wobbly strap button on a Les Paul. Get wood glue.

You don't really have to file away neatly since you're covering it up with metal. Just find a dowel a bit smaller than the stripped screw hole (toothpicks work if it's a smaller screw) and squeeze some wood glue in there and stick it in. Make sure the glue is evenly distributed. Wait till it dries and you can just drill right into it.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Jan 2011, 06:24
I just sent an E-mail to Tim from Bare Knuckle to get him to make me a disgusting-sounding pickup for my 7-string.

 :psyduck:

You mean the S7320? If so, fuck yes. what are going with, a C-Pig?
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Jan 2011, 06:30
S7420, the MIJ version. And yes, Ceramic Piggie it is.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 14 Jan 2011, 07:50
@Akima and Ballard; Thanks for the advice, I'll have a go
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Jan 2011, 08:57
S7420, the MIJ version. And yes, Ceramic Piggie it is.

Brainfart on my part. I'm going to need soundclips, though.
You know where to look if you want to sell that one too some day...
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Jan 2011, 09:33
From my cold, dead hands, dude...

Cold.. Dead..
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Post by: Kwaping on 14 Jan 2011, 10:35
I've heard good things about repairing stripped wood holes with toothpicks and wood glue, too. Just break them off to the right length. That sounds much easier than chiseling or filing.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jan 2011, 14:24
I just used a 2-part wood filler mixture when I had to fill the stripped-out mount for the mute on my Jag. More expensive, but also way tougher. If you wanna go straight up pro status, that's the way to go. I plan on doing that with my Johnson Stratoclone when I have the resources to do a proper restomod job on it.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Jan 2011, 15:05
From my cold, dead hands, dude...

Cold.. Dead..

Well, 'scuse me while I head over to my longboat to fuckin' pillage it then...


After you install the Pig of course, Solder is HOT!
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Post by: Cernunnos on 14 Jan 2011, 18:56
I just used a 2-part wood filler mixture when I had to fill the stripped-out mount for the mute on my Jag.

Is that stuff basically some kind of epoxy thing? kinda fiberglassy? I imagine its advantage would be ease and simplicity of use. Is cleanup a pain?

As a sidenote, regular, run-of-the mill wood filler is never as good as wood for fixing holes and such. It's crumbly and messy, if much easier.

There's a neat trick for sizing pegs for filling holes- drill out the hole, and with the same size drill bit, drill a hole in a scrap piece of metal plate. whittle a piece of wood slightly larger than said hole and pound it through the hole in the metal, and you have a perfectly round, perfectly sized dowel to fill the hole. Since it's compressed, once it's in there with a little glue, it's a perfect, snug fit.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jan 2011, 20:22
The advantage to the two-part filler is shear strength (although I would not recommend it if anybody's looking for flex strength). It's more labor-intensive than a toothpick and wood glue, but significantly stronger than that or any pre-mixed wood filler (like you said). It can be messy if you're not careful; I used a toothpick to mix the two parts together, and a different toothpick to push the mixture into the screw hole. Then a little wee drill bit to make a hole that would accommodate the screw after it had dried for about two hours (instructions recommended less time than that but I wasn't taking chances).

The nice thing about it was that the smooth finish on the body didn't allow for much of the stuff to stick to the finish itself, so it was removed pretty easily with an xacto knife blade. Bam, instant cleanup.

I do like your suggestion of the compressed dowel as opposed to the simple "stick something in there that fits", because it will naturally want to expand in the hole. The combination of that and the expansion that the glue will try to cause as it sinks into the wood will make for a very, very secure fit, I would venture to guess. I never thought of doing that. I wonder if that wouldn't actually be stronger than the 2-part wood filler. We will have to prove it with Science.
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Post by: Christophe on 14 Jan 2011, 20:50
By the by, here's the new Douglas Classic/Melody Maker copy:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P1140998.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v601/TehLetterM/P1141000-1.jpg)
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Jan 2011, 21:01
Holy shit guys.  Here be a tip for anyone wanting to get more sustain out of their bolt-on neck electric guitar:

1) Tune the guitar to standard (or your tuning of choice)
2) Loosen the neck screws one quarter turn
3) Tighten the strings to the tuning you had in step 1
4) Re-tighten the neck screws
5) Re-tune and intonate the guitar

Your guitar will now sustain for fucking miles.  Did this to my strat and tele, worlds of difference.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 15 Jan 2011, 02:03
There's a few suggestions going around, I may try Cernonnus's solution as it sounds pretty nifty, failing that I'll beack up on the wood-filler method. Thanks for all the advice.

@Cristophe; I never rated Melody Makers as much as Les Paul Jr.s but that is pretty sweet.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 15 Jan 2011, 06:52
Holy shit guys.  Here be a tip for anyone wanting to get more sustain out of their bolt-on neck electric guitar:

1) Tune the guitar to standard (or your tuning of choice)
2) Loosen the neck screws one quarter turn
3) Tighten the strings to the tuning you had in step 1
4) Re-tighten the neck screws
5) Re-tune and intonate the guitar

Your guitar will now sustain for fucking miles.  Did this to my strat and tele, worlds of difference.

How long will the effects last before you need to redo the procedure?

Sounds kind of like voodoo to me, whats the science behind this?
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 15 Jan 2011, 06:56
Holy shit guys.  Here be a tip for anyone wanting to get more sustain out of their bolt-on neck electric guitar:

1) Tune the guitar to standard (or your tuning of choice)
2) Loosen the neck screws one quarter turn
3) Tighten the strings to the tuning you had in step 1
4) Re-tighten the neck screws
5) Re-tune and intonate the guitar

Your guitar will now sustain for fucking miles.  Did this to my strat and tele, worlds of difference.

How long will the effects last before you need to redo the procedure?

Sounds kind of like voodoo to me, whats the science behind this?
I suppose it's tweaking the bridge, neck and tuners back to their fresh out of the factory feel.
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Jan 2011, 09:06
I'm skeptical myself. I've done that to my Jag, my El Degas hollowbody, and my best friend's Strat over the last couple of years. I used a watch to measure the sustain before and after. I followed those steps, as well as the steps I read in a different version of the same tip. Not a second's worth of difference.

I think what's happening is that maybe you weren't listening for the sustain before. Sometimes, you hear what you want to hear.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 15 Jan 2011, 10:34
I was wondering if it might be entirely subjective. Some argue that the whole thing about bolt-on necks not sustaining as well as set-necks is a complete misnomer, bad bolt-ons may not sustain well, but good ones will. And think about all the great strat players who have fantastic tone.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 15 Jan 2011, 11:47
Not to mention that sustain isn't the end-all be-all of guitar performance and tone in the first place. It's never been a particularly serious concern of mine, but then I'm not actually any good at guitar so it doesn't matter that much anyways i guess   
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Jan 2011, 11:52
If you genuinely worry about sustain, than you might just be a member of Sunn O))). People who give a shit about that need to learn how to play notes less than thirty seconds apart.

Seriously.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Jan 2011, 11:55
To me "sustain" (and the acquisition of neverending amounts of it) seems to be mostly the secondmost concern of Blooz Attorneys, right behind "creamy tone" and just ahead of "soulful licks".
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Jan 2011, 12:20
sustain, man just turn the right knob on your moog e1, DUH.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Jan 2011, 13:08
DERP
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Post by: Cernunnos on 15 Jan 2011, 16:29
On a nearly unrelated note, does anybody here like fingerpicking? I don't really know what I'm doing but I love it. Right now the only two patterns that make intuitive sense to my brain are fingers 1,2,3,4,3,2,1 (simple, boring arpeggio blaaaahhh) or 1,3,2,4. I am starting to work in alternating bass on the low e and d strings now and am quite pleased about it because i hadn't really ever tried it before a very short while ago. This way of playing guitar just makes sense to my brain and is lots of fun, even with short nails.

Anyways: any of y'all got tricks or tips? Picking patterns you really like? Ergonomic/carpal tunnel warnings? The dangers of a-pickin-and-a-grinnin' type warnings?
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Post by: Melodic on 15 Jan 2011, 18:23
I love fingerpicking! There's a great tab floating around for Do Make Say Think's "Tender History In Rust" in some archaic tuning (FFDfCf I think) that is just the most ridiculously fun thing to play ever.
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Post by: celticgeek on 15 Jan 2011, 21:26
I also love fingerpicking.  I tend to use it in most of my playing, rather than strumming.  There are some pretty nifty patterns here:

fingerpicking patterns (http://guitarfingerpicking.tripod.com/index.html).  And you can save the patterns to your home computer and then print them out.  

I have a number of patterns that I have picked up here and there, but I started out using an ancient book (copyright 1974) named Abe and Malka's 100 Guitar
Accompaniment Patterns.  
. See here. (http://www.amazon.com/Abe-Malkas-Guitar-Accompaniment-Patterns/dp/0825628121#reader_0825628121) There must be other such books around.  Check out amazon.com  for example. (http://www.amazon.com/Fingerpicking-Pattern-Encyclopedia-Book-CD-ROM/dp/0739010921/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1295155545&sr=1-1#reader_0739010921)

And have fun!
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Jan 2011, 05:22
On a nearly unrelated note, does anybody here like fingerpicking?
I do, but it is because my 1st instrument was a 5 string banjo. I modify the alternating thumb roll, and the forward/reverse roll and the other one they taught me in Ronald Reagan's 1st term. But I doubt I could diagram it or tell you how I apply it to the guitar. So I should probably just STFU. I've tried to do several songs using this style and usually I just cannot get the sound I want to match the bass/drums and end up going back to jangling strumming with a pick. Also finger picks, I'm actually trying to find locally with no luck. I got some thumbpicks, but guitard center doesn't have the metal fpicks. Not sure I could get used to them, but it might help me get the volume/attack I need.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Jan 2011, 12:38
On a nearly unrelated note, does anybody here like fingerpicking? I don't really know what I'm doing but I love it. Right now the only two patterns that make intuitive sense to my brain are fingers 1,2,3,4,3,2,1 (simple, boring arpeggio blaaaahhh) or 1,3,2,4. I am starting to work in alternating bass on the low e and d strings now and am quite pleased about it because i hadn't really ever tried it before a very short while ago. This way of playing guitar just makes sense to my brain and is lots of fun, even with short nails.

Anyways: any of y'all got tricks or tips? Picking patterns you really like? Ergonomic/carpal tunnel warnings? The dangers of a-pickin-and-a-grinnin' type warnings?

I am very, very partial to Bert Jansch, Nick Drake, James Taylor and Mark Knopfler. I draw the line at Leo Kottke.

There's always gotta be that one artist who is just a dick, you know?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Jan 2011, 12:43
There's always gotta be that one artist who is just a dick, you know?

Mark Knopfler
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Jan 2011, 12:44
Let me qualify: I only listen to Dire Straits' self-titled.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 16 Jan 2011, 12:54
Dang I was hoping you'd outright defend him so I could link to a +10-minute live version of "Sultans of Swing"
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Post by: Rot10Kid on 16 Jan 2011, 13:21
As soon as I get my paycheck, this'll be my new baby. Well, not this one exactly, but one from work (Guitar Center).


(http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!CB88Y-!!2k~$%28KGrHqF,!lUEz+uJlu1zBNJirbU97!~~_1.JPG?set_id=8800005007)
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Jan 2011, 13:26
Dang I was hoping you'd outright defend him so I could link to a +10-minute live version of "Sultans of Swing"

Ugh. I'm glad I disappointed you that way, hah.
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Jan 2011, 13:34
The dangers of a-pickin-and-a-grinnin' type warnings?
I missed this part. Don't end up like this guy:
(http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=5293;type=avatar)
but that might involve head injury... hair loss, hearing loss, gout, beri beri, & a bad taste in your mouth that spreads to your ears...
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Jan 2011, 01:00
from work (Guitar Center)

I always suspected Guitar Center employees of listening to nothing but '90s pop-punk, but it's nice to have it settled once and for all
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Jan 2011, 02:01
I'd have figured it'd be a Vai/Petrucci/Satriani mix.

Or maybe that's just their preferred fanfic scenario.
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 02:34
hey look what my friend just got:

(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r11/Madsakre/DSC00009.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r11/Madsakre/DSC00010.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r11/Madsakre/DSC00011.jpg)
(http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r11/Madsakre/DSC00012.jpg)
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 17 Jan 2011, 08:12
I have to agree.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Jan 2011, 08:57
Pig-90? Denmark just got it's awesome quota raised.
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 12:12
...aaaand I've ordered a Ceramic Warpig for my 7-string now.
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Jan 2011, 12:14
I um....did that say 22k?
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 12:15
Yes. And it's a p90.

Where is your God now?
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Jan 2011, 12:23
 :psyduck:
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Jan 2011, 12:28
Oh man, I really want to put all-black covered Warpigs in my Carvin now, and it already has a lundgren M7 in it.

 :psyduck: indeed
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 12:29
There will be clips.

May God have mercy on us all.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 17 Jan 2011, 13:14
There will be clips.

May God have mercy on us all.

I was going to demand clips of doom, but I wasn't certain the forum would be able to handle it.

22k? I'm going to sound really n00bish here, but what's the norm?
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Jan 2011, 13:20
I thought most normal pickups were like 9-12k.
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 13:32
Most regular pickups are 9-12k, yeah. An EMG 81 is like 15, and a DiMarzio X2N is about 17 if I recall correctly.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 17 Jan 2011, 13:40
Wow, those are quite some P90s, I don't reckon you could get a clean sound out of them even if you tried. =P
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jan 2011, 13:48
Well, DC resistance is only that, just DC resistance. The Pig 90 still sounds pretty good clean.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Jan 2011, 00:08
Guys I am pretty psyched to receive that P90 today. Are you psyched?
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Jan 2011, 09:10
Totally psyched.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Jan 2011, 09:27
I HAVE IT

IT IS IN MY PLACE OF RESIDENCE NOW

BUT FIRST

STEAK DINNER
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Jan 2011, 12:30
Jubilations!
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jan 2011, 12:58
Dude I am pretty pumped that a thing like that exists anywhere. Please, PLEASE show me some slide on that fat motherfucking filthy thing.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Jan 2011, 14:54
I HAVE IT
Freakahahahahahahalalalawowza!
Quote
IT IS IN MY PLACE OF RESIDENCE NOW
GOES COMPLETELY UN-SANE
Quote
BUT FIRST
ANTICIPATION!!!!!!Z
Quote
STEAK DINNER
erection passes, starts watching game shows...
Also have you guys heard of the Bogner Mephisto?
If you were a guy with two stereo guitars, would this be also not priapism causing?
Oh and the illicitizen tour truck just had transmission babies. As in, I think it is forked. Way forked.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Jan 2011, 16:27
OKAY

GRINDCORE TIEM YOU CUNTS!!!!11

http://soundcloud.com/doktorlummer/para-bellum-test
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Post by: Rot10Kid on 18 Jan 2011, 19:33
Well, the TM71 I was going to get on payday was bought today...by a customer. :cry:

OKAY

GRINDCORE TIEM YOU CUNTS!!!!11

http://soundcloud.com/doktorlummer/para-bellum-test

I laughed at the Futurama part. Nice and heavy, but for the love of Nixon, add some bone-crushing bass!

EDIT: SINGLE COIL?! WAT?!
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Jan 2011, 00:02
Yep, that is a Single Coil you're hearing.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jan 2011, 00:39
How in the fuck

How in the holy living fuck man
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Jan 2011, 01:32
(http://whenitstrikesme.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/recognize-miracles.gif)
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Jan 2011, 01:49
Pics!

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0002.jpg)
Well, well, there it is!

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0006-1.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0007-1.jpg)
Pretty, isn't it?

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0010.jpg)
 Screw you, Autofocus, screw you hard.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0011.jpg)

Aaaah

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0014-1.jpg)
No pickup mounting session without a good steak dinner!!

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0017.jpg)
Duncan JB yanked out.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0019.jpg)
Installed!

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0020.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0021-1.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0023.jpg)


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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jan 2011, 07:27
Holy

Fucking

Dogshit
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 19 Jan 2011, 07:53
Holy fuck that looks smexy on your sg.

I approve greatly of the meal.
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Post by: Kwaping on 19 Jan 2011, 10:29
I give it 10/10 on looks alone.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 19 Jan 2011, 11:05
What SG is it?
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Post by: Kwaping on 19 Jan 2011, 14:49
That guitar looked like hell to begin with (in a good way), but the new pup makes it downright satanic. Fncking evil.

Well done!
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Post by: Akima on 19 Jan 2011, 14:53
1) How can you eat that?
2) The pickup looks like it went ten rounds with a bulldozer. Did it win?
3) Sounds pretty awesome.

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Post by: Melodic on 19 Jan 2011, 16:06
i assumed from the earlier pictures that the pickup had some kind of scratch-guard tape on it, but the pictures of it mounted still have those chips in it. did it come all scratched up?
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Post by: Lupercal on 19 Jan 2011, 17:26
Your keyboard is filthy.

But dang people have been talking to me for years about Bare Knuckles and your clips and pictures definitely do them justice.

Did you say that was an SG-I? It is beautiful. Always favoured brown/tobacco colours on Gibsons.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Jan 2011, 18:13
What's the amp on that clip Lummer? Or is it POD or modeling software?
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 19 Jan 2011, 19:37
Lummer, yer probly the coolest metalhead ever.  :lol:
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Post by: Rot10Kid on 19 Jan 2011, 20:33
Question guys: I still my my first guitar (a FirstAct Strat knockoff) from years ago in pieces. Do you think it's worth upgrading with new pickups (Seymour Duncan Invader in bridge and Hot Rails in middle and neck), or should I just get a whole new guitar?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 19 Jan 2011, 23:39
i think consensus is it's worth it if you're a tone whore and if you don't spend more than the guitar's worth.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 20 Jan 2011, 00:10
Question guys: I still my my first guitar (a FirstAct Strat knockoff) from years ago in pieces. Do you think it's worth upgrading with new pickups (Seymour Duncan Invader in bridge and Hot Rails in middle and neck), or should I just get a whole new guitar?

http://store.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Guitar-Pickups_c_7.html

These will probably suit your purposes (and guitar and wallet) better than some seymour duncans will at this stage.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 20 Jan 2011, 00:25
1) How can you eat that?
2) The pickup looks like it went ten rounds with a bulldozer. Did it win?
3) Sounds pretty awesome.



1) I was, to be blunt, very very hungry so it went down too fast for me to tell.
2) Well, you don't see any living, intact bulldozers anywhere in those pics, do you?
3) Thanks. I am incredibly impressed with this thing as well.

What's the amp on that clip Lummer? Or is it POD or modeling software?

Yep, Just my POD.

And to everyone else: Thanks a bundle :)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 20 Jan 2011, 09:38
Do i need 9mm or 10mm tuners for a squier? I cannot find this information anywhere. I tried measuring across the hole for the tuning peg, but i get 8mm so im assuming thats not the right measurement.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 20 Jan 2011, 10:25
Hey guitar peoples,

1. Should I get a compressor pedal?

2. If yes, which?

3. If yes, where should it go in my effects chain? Currently:

guitar -> tremolo -> distortion -> reverb -> amp (blues jr, no effects loop)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 20 Jan 2011, 10:58
Holy

Fucking

Dogshit
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 20 Jan 2011, 11:44
So I think I'm going to try driving my amp with an EQ pedal as opposed to my Boss OS-2. I might keep the dirt pedal in the mix for solos, maybe but I want to keep the EQ so the overdrive sound is more natural.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 20 Jan 2011, 15:36
1. Should I get a compressor pedal?
That ones up to you.  I like mine.

2. If yes, which?
I have a Boss CS-2 Compression Sustainer, and i like it.  On the flip-side, I think David Gilmour from Pink Floyd uses like 2 or 3 or something.  Try them out before you buy, but this is like the golden rule for anything.

3. If yes, where should it go in my effects chain?
I like having mine first, but it depends on what your chain is and the sound your going for.  Here, you should experiment.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 20 Jan 2011, 17:30
I don't know if there's already a topic about it, but I was wondering what is the most simple and affordable way to record stuff? I'd only really need to record guitar parts for myself...and I want to be able to put it on the pc and stuff so some ridiculous Dictaphone is out of the question.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 20 Jan 2011, 17:43
how hi-fi does it need to be? before i got my POD, i just ran a line from amp-out straight into my computer (it had a 1/4" in, but you could buy an adapter to fit 1/8" mic). with my POD, i just record from usb-out.

you don't even really need the amp in the equation -- pipe your guitar into the box and use any number of different programs to model hardware.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Der Golem on 20 Jan 2011, 17:44
Guitar Rig 2? Software you can probably pirate, records your guitar playing direct input, so no microphones or noise, and from my experiance with it, sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Jan 2011, 17:48
There are plenty of microphones out there that connect straight into the computer via USB these days, so that's simple, but I'm not sure how cheap you can get them for. It does save you having to buy some variety of interface (something you would plug a regular microphone XLR cable into which would then convert the analog audio signal into digital bits and send it to yr computer via USB or Firewire), so it is still potentially cheaper.

At the software side of things there are plenty of free+legal recording programs out there, with the most well know probably being Audacity.

Failing that there are PODs and such. Those sorts of things usually come packaged with some kind of rudimentary recording software, don't they?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 20 Jan 2011, 20:56
I used to record through a distortion pedal straight into my comp onto a constantly re-downloaded trial of Goldwave. I finally got a V-Studio 20 for my birthday. Still gotta figure out how to use this newfangled technology.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 21 Jan 2011, 02:12
Okay, so I had it in the jam room yesterday. Played it over a Peavey 6505 and HOLY SHIT is this thing noisy. Luckily my band plays some kind of chaotic post-hardcore mixed with a whole buttload of black metal dissonance and other yucky stuff in it, so it's not like the crazy feedback was out of place or anything.

Apart from that, it sounded absolutely perfect. Extremely harsh, heavy, and most of all ANGRY. It was absolutely perfect for what I need, and I'm definitely ordering one for myself, come payday.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2011, 03:43
Check out Reaper recording software. Seems to be a great forum for them and the price is sick low. $40. Great stuff.
http://www.reaper.fm/
Also you can find the older version of the Zoom H series handheld recorders and they are surprisingly good. An H2 is only like $159 or less
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=480163&Q=&is=REG&A=details
Then subscribe to Tape-Op, it is free, 6 issues a year and the best resource. They now ship to N American and Europe. FREE.
http://www.tapeop.com/ All it takes is you letting them rent out your email list. I get about 4 emails a yr from vendors I actually like.
Best gear reviews and interviews with basement enthusiasts to well Geoff Emerick.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 21 Jan 2011, 03:56
It does save you having to buy some variety of interface (something you would plug a regular microphone XLR cable into which would then convert the analog audio signal into digital bits and send it to yr computer via USB or Firewire), so it is still potentially cheaper.

Or you could pay US$40 for this (http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Microphones-Icicle-Converter-Preamp/dp/B001EW5YQS) and then $90 for an SM58 + cable bundle from Musician's Friend.

I mean it's really the easiest and cheapest solution I can think of that would get the job done (and have it be done right the first time).

ETA: Also, look up Tascam's DP-008. It's +/-$300. Doesn't include external mics, but it's got two built-in ones. 8 tracks, XLR inputs, lots of nifty features. It's a good low-mid budget item if you're trying to record stuff at home. Also, incredibly portable. For anybody who is serious about recording and producing original material, I can think of no excuse not to.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 21 Jan 2011, 08:46
I got a Behringer USB condenser mic for my computer recordin/music makin and it works really well for guitar. it came with a couple recording programs too, so thats helpful.

Do i need 9mm or 10mm tuners for a squier? I cannot find this information anywhere. I tried measuring across the hole for the tuning peg, but i get 8mm so im assuming thats not the right measurement.

Please help?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Jan 2011, 08:54
Mind a little wait? I can measure my Tele when I get home and let you know tomorrow.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 21 Jan 2011, 08:57
I recommend you get familiar with this forum as well:

Recording forum over at The Gear Page (http://thegearpage.net/board/forumdisplay.php?f=21)

They seem to be "cost is no object" by default, but will give you good inexpensive recommendations if you put that in your original post (like you did here). There's a sticky thread for people who are new to recording, like you and me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 21 Jan 2011, 10:25
Mind a little wait? I can measure my Tele when I get home and let you know tomorrow.

Thanks!

What is the proper way to measure it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Jan 2011, 10:41
I have no clue, but I'll measure everything until I get something coming out at 9 or 10mm.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 21 Jan 2011, 11:45
Hey, speaking of mics, what do you guys recommend to take ambient recordings? I'm looking for something to capture everyday noise as well as my ears do, like coffee shop chatter or waves lapping on a beach. Omni-directional, sub-$200?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 21 Jan 2011, 13:20
Sounds like you might want a portable recorder more than a specific mic, and if that's the case the Zoom H2 that was linked somewhere earlier on this page would be a good bet.  I paid $300 for the new version of the Zoom H4N, which, in addition to stereo condenser mics for portable recording also includes two line/XLR inputs for use as either a 4 track recorder or a USB audio interface.  It's like a having a Tascam US-122 (or something comparable) plus really good stereo recording capability all in a device slightly larger than a point and shoot digital camera.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2011, 15:49
Actually a dynamic mic is your best bet for electric guitar. Condensers are really better for acoustic instruments and vocals. Also the SPL that the mic can take before being fubar'd is way higher on a dynamic mic. SM57 is the mic most people have used since Muddy Waters invented electricity. Also meh Behringer.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 21 Jan 2011, 15:51
Wouldn't you want something other than a dynamic mic for recording your guitar? You can get pretty good cheap behringer condensor mics.

I've had some pretty good experiences with these ones. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHC2

That's a pretty sweet deal right there, you get a pair for that price? Bitchin'. I may invest in that someday.

I am with doombilly though, dynamic mics are way less likely to get overwhelmed, busted diaphragms. Even after just being used for vocals, the microphone I sang through on that weird Albanian show during rehearsal was a condenser mic, and that thing started sounding like shit after week 6.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 22 Jan 2011, 01:12
Hey you fucks, guess who's getting a Gibson SG and paying $50/mo for it until 400 is reached! Yeah bitches, that's fucking right. I'm putting the first payment down tomorrow and I get to take it home then. Because I know the guy who owns it.

My one complaint: it doesn't have P90s. I plan on rectifying that, though. It's already got wiring installed for coil tap, so maybe if I twist Curt Novak's arm a bit? Also the pickups it has are a custom Duncan bridge pickup, flipped over and put in the neck position. The other is another Duncan, a Dimebag signature dual-coil rail pickup. I don't much give a fuck about either pickup, and I have been wanting a guitar with P90s for a long time. So I'll sell each of those pickups and put them P90s in and have an axe with which planets are destroyed.

It's originally an '04 Faded SG Special in brown, but the owner put a gnarly spraypainted creamy yellow finish on there. I intend to remove that from the headstock the best I can (because it looks like complete shit on that headstock) and leave it on the body (because it looks fucking radical and is worn completely to hell).

Also if I sell those pickups for enough, I'll have maybe 3 months' worth of payments already done. Which means fuck yeah.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 22 Jan 2011, 05:20
Hey you fucks

I actually laughed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 22 Jan 2011, 06:13
As a man, whenever I get a good deal on a new addition to my guitarsenal/guitarmada/guitarmy/whatever other pun you can make about that shit, I feel a huge surge of testosterone

Just the smell of my B.O. impregnates women right now because that's how intense this shit is
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Jan 2011, 06:58
I have no clue, but I'll measure everything until I get something coming out at 9 or 10mm.  :mrgreen:

I totally fucking forgot, man.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 22 Jan 2011, 07:17
My one complaint: it doesn't have P90s humbuckers

fixed yr post you stupid mother fucker

(also pretty interested to see the finish. interested in how well spraypaint holds up on a solid body)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 22 Jan 2011, 07:23
I have no clue, but I'll measure everything until I get something coming out at 9 or 10mm.  :mrgreen:

I totally fucking forgot, man.

That's ok, i ordered the tuners anyway.

I'll drill the fuckers out if/when they don't fit.

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/project001.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/project002.jpg)

Parts come in a couple days!

YEAH PROJECT! WOO!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 22 Jan 2011, 07:36
Just as an aside, re: mics I've been using a AT 3035 for about 10 yrs with no problems. The 20 series they put out gets great reviews and the price is good. Phantom power is needed. I've never had any trouble with that one, but be careful with other phantom powered mics. I have two B.L.U.E. balls. One obviously hangs lower than the other. :P The new one is made in China the older broke ass one is pure Latvian. But it shoots blanks because I popped the XLR into it with the phantom on. That is the point it stopped making sound so I think that's what did it. Strangely it is a dynamic that requires phantom, only one that does. They have a USB powered one called the Snowball that is supposed to be ok. More of a podcaster thing, I think. MY main practice vocal mic for a couple yrs is a Sennheiser e835. I highly recommend that mic. IF you are going for bang 4 the buck, NADY makes the Starpower SP1. I bought two because for $25 each; I got the mic, a boom stand and a XLR cable. None are super high quality, but they all work and mic has an on/off switch which I don't usually like, however sometimes that is useful. Everyone needs at least one Shure SM57. It's in the Koran or something. /microphonia
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 22 Jan 2011, 10:33
My one complaint: it doesn't have P90s humbuckers

fixed yr post you stupid mother fucker

(also pretty interested to see the finish. interested in how well spraypaint holds up on a solid body)

Lummer's shit-hot overwound P90 begs to differ, but I may swap in PAF reissues instead of P90s. And the spraypaint holds up just as well as you could expect out of a spraypaint job. It's held up just as poorly as the stuff on my Squier Bitch-Bullet, and they both look glorious that way. I just wish he hadn't oversprayed the headstock, because it looks like SHIT. I'll fix it though, nothing a bit of sandpaper can't fix :D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 22 Jan 2011, 15:08
I've always intended to put P90s in an SG when I get one, unless I can get one with them already.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Jan 2011, 15:29
Speaking of, I guess Gibson's putting out a P-90 SG Faded model to match the LP Studio 60s Tributes that came out last year.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 22 Jan 2011, 17:41
I'm not sure I would dare wreck an SG with spraypaint, I can understand the squier or even a real fender, but an SG is sort of sacred.

I really would never be able to spraypaint a Fender. Or any guitar to change to color. However, I would spraypaint some stencils on one, stickers too if I could ever find some cool ones. Especially an SG. Ever here of Tony Iommi's Monkey? It's the SG that invented heavy metal. Monkey sticker!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 23 Jan 2011, 03:54
Speaking of, I guess Gibson's putting out a P-90 SG Faded model to match the LP Studio 60s Tributes that came out last year.

Googled it. Do Want.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 23 Jan 2011, 09:38
I'm not sure I would dare wreck an SG with spraypaint, I can understand the squier or even a real fender, but an SG is sort of sacred.

You've never met a Faded SG Special, have you.

Speaking of, I guess Gibson's putting out a P-90 SG Faded model to match the LP Studio 60s Tributes that came out last year.

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T ANYBODY TELL ME THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 23 Jan 2011, 10:45

You've never met a Faded SG Special, have you.


Nope, only come across the normal SG specials, nice and red.
It was a beaut, I actually prefer the look of the thing to the standard. I don't like the way the chrome covers look on the standard while you're playing it.
I can agree with you on liking the special, the cheapest way to own a Gibson SG new sounds good to me, and on the stripped down bare essentials vibe I'm also a fan, I love les paul juniors.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 23 Jan 2011, 12:30
Patrick, pics immediately you fag.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Jan 2011, 02:11
I spent the day stripping it. Nobody will ever see that monstrosity that was the spraypaint finish. Me, my best friend, and some 220-grit sandpaper made damn sure of that. It hurt to witness that. He had fucking scraped off the Gibson logo with a razor blade. WHO THE FUCK DOES THAT. I can't bitch about his masking tape wiring job, because, well, I'd be a hypocrite, but it's a pretty sad sight. Still, easy to remove the pickups once I get the P90s I wanna get.

It's stripped down to bare wood now and we rubbed that sucker good and clean, and now the first coat of clear lacquer is on (I intend to have a natural finish SG). Lots of fish eyes and runs, I need to work on my spraying technique. But there's a few more coats to go, so I've got time to learn. And it's hard to fuck up when you can learn consequence-free, which is how I see it right now.

The sad thing is that all the buckle rash made it impossible to remove all that godawful paint from the back. It's stuck in the scratches, and I'm not THAT dedicated. It's also all stuck in the serial number and "MADE IN U.S.A." stamp. And the headstock veneer looks really sad and pathetic, very dull and miserable. Poor, poor thing. I'll rub it down for a couple hours with a rag and some polishing compound soon enough.

I intend to make this guitar something worthy of showing to a good number of people.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Jan 2011, 08:40
I'm not sure I would dare wreck an SG with spraypaint, I can understand the squier or even a real fender, but an SG is sort of sacred.

You've never met a Faded SG Special, have you.

Speaking of, I guess Gibson's putting out a P-90 SG Faded model to match the LP Studio 60s Tributes that came out last year.

WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T ANYBODY TELL ME THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN

I told Chris, doesn't that count?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 24 Jan 2011, 10:01
I'm totally stoked about that dual p90 SG Special. Really.

I NEVER thought I'd say that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 24 Jan 2011, 12:08
Really sorry to hear about that poor SG, at least it has a good home and a caring owner now, never seen a natural SG, looking forward to pics.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 24 Jan 2011, 17:43
friend of mine is selling two mildly used SM58s for $160CDN, sans cables or adapters. Is this a thing I should do?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Jan 2011, 11:05
Guys, I might be getting a MIJ strat in a trade.

HE HE.

IT GON' GET RAPED!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 25 Jan 2011, 11:48
It's funny, Fender Japan are almost always better quality instruments, and much cheeper ones at that, than Fender USA.  Especially their telecasters.  Especially their double bound tele with a bigsby.  Mmmmmmm
(http://theteahaus.netfirms.com/Julia-2005/nfpicturepro/albums/userpics/10001/CIJ62Telecaster.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Jan 2011, 13:06
It being fuji-gen made is the reason I'm going for it. Now all the the stratlawyers can shut up with their stratlawyering around me.

How much do you think it'd cost to get a floyd flat-mounted on it? Maybe I'll get a wizard-profiled warmoth neck with ss-jumbos on there as well, if I don't jive with the neck? Love me some spendin'.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Jan 2011, 13:25
Guys, THE MAILMAN IS FUCKING SLOW

I WANT MY NEW PICKUP
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 25 Jan 2011, 17:20
*facepalm* I should've fucking known that not properly sealing off the electronics BEFORE spraying on the shellac finish was probably not the best of ideas. Now I have a non-working set of electronics.

Fortunately, Ryan (the previous owner) has a soldering kit and I will be joining him in an effort to repair it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Jan 2011, 00:40
Wait, you didn't take the electronics out? What's up with that?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jan 2011, 01:01
tuathal I knew him before I ever saw what he does to his instruments. God. I fuck up pretty bad when I fuck up, but at least I try. I'll be making sure he doesn't do any silly, silly mods on it while I'm there, hah.

I figured wrapping the electronics in lots of plastic and then sealing that shit shut with tape would do the trick. I guess I was wrong. Some shellac must've gotten through somehow. Maybe a tear in the plastic? It's all in the recycling, indecipherable from whatever random plastic shit has also gone in the recycling bin, so I can't go back and find out. Everything appeared okay when I removed it though...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jan 2011, 05:49
That explains why you were being a cunt about me wanting an alder guitar last night..
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jan 2011, 05:54
You say that as if there's ever been a point where I've not been a cunt (also, I just realized I've been awake a very long time)

I'm sticking to my guns, I'm not as big a fan of alder now that I've got a guitar made of birch and another made of mahogany.

(Bearer I have been meaning to tell you that the Telecaster you've shown us here today is fucking gorgeous and it gives me Tele boners again, damn it I'd just gotten over those)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Jan 2011, 09:32
Now eagerly awaiting pics and clips of the C-Pig.

(Hurry up, lummer, you don't need to eat EVERY day!)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jan 2011, 10:56
I'm sticking to my guns, I'm not as big a fan of alder

Quote
gives me Tele boners

Pot, kettle, Telecaster.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Jan 2011, 12:57
Teles are made of ash and/or pine if I am not mistaken, babe
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Jan 2011, 12:58
Most newer models in the standard range are Alder.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Jan 2011, 13:44
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0042.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0044.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0046-1.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0054.jpg)
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 26 Jan 2011, 13:45
FUCK
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 26 Jan 2011, 13:47
And yes, that 7-string does indeed bring teh br00talz.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 26 Jan 2011, 14:09
Damn, dude. I'm a sucker for natural finishes. You need to send that first image to the BK guys, I bet they'll use it as a promo piece.

I don't own this guitar, but I'm lusting after it:

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af209/kwaping/walnut_taylor_solidbody_custom.png)

I can actually afford it, but I am pretty sure I'm not worthy. I would be paranoid about scratching it while playing, or something.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 26 Jan 2011, 14:45
That thing looks like something out of a Carlos Santana wet dream, and no, that is not meant to be a compliment.
Sorry,I just have an aversion to overly-flashy guitars.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 27 Jan 2011, 06:11
There's only one Ibanez there, but thanks!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jan 2011, 08:05
OSG, I heart you. I just paid SHIPPING for this. Shipping. $37. The guy got it from another member on there for the same. It's much like the old Teisco body I have laying around, but..with a neck.

The pickup supposedly doesn't work, but the guy said it may just be a wiring issue. If so, I'll bring it down to the local shop, get that shit fixed, and still spend uh..

well..not much at all.

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/9793/party006.jpg)

edit: CHRIS! Talk to me here. How do you like the Brighton Rocks you have in your Lead? What's in there right now reminds me of it looks wise, and I might get one if this thing's kaput.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Jan 2011, 13:09
The fact that you PAID for it is crazy enough. I prefer my vintage nightmares for free thankyeverymuch. Still pretty kvlt though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jan 2011, 05:52
It's not a nightmare, just something that 5 minutes with a soldering iron (and maybe a new pickup from Guitar Fetish) will take care of.

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Johnny C on 28 Jan 2011, 09:21
there's nothing wrong with having a project
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jan 2011, 09:27
Possible nightmare: My big ol' paws adjusting to a short scale neck. Though from what I remember with the old body I have..I thought it was like a 25" scale.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 28 Jan 2011, 14:06
Hey guys my guitar is done...

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/project005.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/project006.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/project007-1.jpg)

I ended up going the same general direction as cerunnos a few pages back, partly because it looked so cool, but mostly because i didnt have enough money for the neck pup i wanted! so while i save up for that im making do with this sweet loudmouth neck bucker with series/split/parallel switch. I also used a .1 cap on the tone and strung it up .14-.65 and tuned it to drop B. So its an "almost baritone / almost 7-string" type deal.

I love it!
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Post by: Cernunnos on 28 Jan 2011, 15:59
That is awesome. And gives me ideas.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Jan 2011, 07:20
White and tort, the only way to go.

Well, aside from a white P-Bass with a black guard.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 29 Jan 2011, 08:42
Speaking of modding strats I am already trying to figure out what to do with mine next.

Definite: New tuners, new bridge saddles.

Not sure: Electronics. I am tempted to stick with the single bridge pickup and I don't think I'll bother with adding a tone knob ever, so i might do the split/series/parallel thing. I'm not sure how much of a difference each setting would have on this pickup, seeing as I don't really know how close it is in construction to a PAF (what it looks like) or a wide range (what it is advertised as being kind of sort of like). The other idea is to drop something into the neck position to compliment the bridge pickup's considerable brightness and go less complicated with the switching.

Thoughts?
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 29 Jan 2011, 09:38
your pickup is actually supposed to look like a wide range humbucker, an old fender design that used to go in telecaster customs (i believe). People would take them and put them in jazzmasters or jaguars to make jazzblasters and jagblasters and all that fun stuff.

i can't speak for sure to your pickup, but the switching on mine makes a big difference! series is normal humbucker, split gives you single coil tone (and hum) so youll almost have a normal strat bridge tone, and parallel runs the humucker like two single coils together and gives you a beefier tone. on mine i really feel like i have three separate pickup tones in one.

obviously its not a HUGE difference since it is the same pickup, but its definitely noticeable.

BUT...i didnt see GFS list that as a four wire lead...did you notice when you installed it? if its a two wire you wont be able to do it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Jan 2011, 11:16
I thought most of GFS' buckers were four-wire.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 29 Jan 2011, 11:46
Yeah they probably are, but it seems like on most of the four wire ones, they mention it in the description, for that one they dont.

EDIT: "These are high quality, wax potted pickups with thin, two conductor leads."

Well there you go.
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Jan 2011, 20:05
I've heard that the guitar fetish wide range humbuckers act really funky if you cut out out one of the coils, in that there is a massive volume difference between the the poles that adjustable and the ones that aren't, so either have it in series or parallel, don't split it.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Jan 2011, 06:55
In that case, I'll probably concentrate on figuring out a neck pickup for it. Probably some kind of humbucker or a p90.
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Jan 2011, 08:18
Why not just buy a... You know... good pickup for the bridge position!?

Do those GFS things have any selling point, apart from just being inexpensive?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Jan 2011, 08:31
thirty bucks is expensive for a pickup? 

to put in a guitar that i got for a hundred dollars?




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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Jan 2011, 08:37
Why not just buy a... You know... good pickup for the bridge position!?

Do those GFS things have any selling point, apart from just being inexpensive?

Yeah, they have just the most exquisitely muddy tone.


Honestly though, some their high-output pickups are intensely similar to Ibanez stocks. Their vintage-influenced stuff tends to do the trick of sounding old and near-microphonic though.
That's my experience with them at least.
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Jan 2011, 08:41
thirty bucks is expensive for a pickup? 

to put in a guitar that i got for a hundred dollars?






Thirty bucks is disturbingly cheap, and I would never, ever trust anything that cheap (in relative terms) to be of even remotely acceptable quality.

You could have grabbed a used Seymour Duncan or similar off craigslist or ebay for what... ten bucks more.
Of course, being the now dyed-in-the-wool Bare Knuckle fanboy that I am, I see no problem in putting pickups into a guitar that cost more than the actual instrument. For my needs, that guitar would kick all sorts of ass with like... a Nailbomb og War Pig in the bridge. Maybe a Mule too.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Jan 2011, 08:53
whoops misread your post and confused expensive/inexpensive


The more I think about it, the more the idea of having a really good pickup in this thing sounds awesome. It really really needs new tuners first though. It will be a few months before I deal with that, currently I am in a different state from said instrument.

Not a fan of fenders: this pickup has the opposite problem, if anything. It's really bright.

In the meantime I have a little pine box that once held tea, scrap wood for a neck, and three crappy strat pickups, and access to a full wood shop.  Crappy cigar box slide guitar anyone?
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Jan 2011, 09:05
It is most definitely cigar box slide guitar time. If you don't do this, I will track you down and hit you with sticks.

But yeah, the pickups really ARE a huge part of the sound. Or a huge part of the part of the sound not directly related to who's playing the guitar. That, and the wood. If the wood is decent then I see no reason NOT to put something really good in it. What sound are you going for?
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 30 Jan 2011, 09:15
Both of the GFS pickups ive had have been totally good. Obviously not the best in the world, but for the price you cant get any better than them. Both guitars i have them in are better now than they were before, and thats exactly what i wanted. I would love to get some better pickups someday, but for an inexpensive option that im not worried about buying without hearing first, GFS is the way to go.

Ive played the cheaper SDs, and say no thank you.
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Jan 2011, 09:19
Well, I am by no means claiming SD's are any good either. I like the JB model a lot, but that's about it.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 30 Jan 2011, 09:34
Here's what I'm starting to think i would like: You know how a tele sounds? A sound that is the opposite of that, more or less. You see, I have a telecaster and love it but sometimes you just need something different to spice up your life, you know?

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Post by: Lummer on 30 Jan 2011, 11:52
Check out the Bareknuckle website, and see about their vintage-voiced pickups. It's of course also free to shoot their sales support an e-mail about what would be best for your needs. Customer service with that company really is excellent!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Jan 2011, 13:39


 It really really needs new tuners first though


Get a new (graphite) nut. It will do a lot more for your tuning stability as the tuners are seldom if ever the problem. Try running pencil lead through the string-grooves of the nut first to lubricate it.
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Post by: doombilly on 31 Jan 2011, 04:01


 It really really needs new tuners first though


Get a new (graphite) nut. It will do a lot more for your tuning stability as the tuners are seldom if ever the problem. Try running pencil lead through the string-grooves of the nut first to lubricate it.
If you do replace the tuners, take a look at Sperzels. I think you would need to widen the holes though, so maybe not.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Feb 2011, 19:43
If you do replace the tuners, take a look at Sperzels. I think you would need to widen the holes though, so maybe not.

I've got Sperzels on my old Johnson Stratoclone and never had to widen holes at all.

I'd suggest using the stock bridge unless it sucks. Idunno, what's your dad's playing style? If he's not the kind to jack off with a whammy bar all the time, replace it with a hardtail bridge for added stability.
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Post by: Lupercal on 02 Feb 2011, 05:24
I've been considering the parts that are really important to do with sound and tuning lately too. I have a strat-copy at home in pieces with plans to just, make it a lot nicer. Pretty much replacing everything hardware wise, but I was wondering, like others, about the nut.

Nuts are made out of:

Bone
Resin
Graphite Compound

I feel like I should get the old one replaced as its just, old and shitty, but is there any clue (apart from price) that any are better than the other?

As far as pickups go, I've heard good things about Wilkinson pickups - a set of "vintage" strat style pickups are half the price of genuine Fender ones. But I kind of feel like they're just there to keep poor tone chasers happy, like they want a Fender sound at half the price. Cue Wilko. But a lot of magazines/critics have good things to say about Vintage guitars.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Feb 2011, 06:36
Fuck bone, that shit gets sticky. I'd go for a nice new Graphtech nut myself.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Feb 2011, 08:43
The Teisco (which is apparently branded as "Trump") is on its way! Woohah.
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Post by: Lummer on 02 Feb 2011, 09:35
That's some good pagebreakin' right there...
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Feb 2011, 11:04
I am excite.

Come getting paid on the 15th, I'll be ordering a Brighton Rocks for it (if it is the pickup that's not working). I would rather the more mellow 6.5k one, but apparently they're out of stock, so 7k it is.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Feb 2011, 08:35
Oh nice, glad to have been of help.

Guys, the original owner was fixing the wiring on my SG and decided he'd made a mistake in selling her.

FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU

fml fml fml fml fml fml I really wanted that and I seriously spent 3 hours sanding her and stripping her BY HAND with my best friend.
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Feb 2011, 08:40
He didn't just take it back, did he? That's super-not-right, if so. At the very least, you should have the right to sell it back to him at a fat profit.

F* that guy.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Feb 2011, 08:49
No takesies backsies, guy!
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Feb 2011, 08:57
The idea is that I continue with the payments I'm making and he gets me a new one and I get to do whatever I want with it. Which will basically be the same exact thing I was doing with this one; stripping the finish, going natural, and slapping P90s on.

It was his first non-shitty guitar though, apparently. I can sympathize.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Feb 2011, 09:13
Just make him get you the new Special...comes with P-90s, and I think one's natural finished.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 04 Feb 2011, 09:15
Will someone explain VOX amps to me? Do they suck? Theres one going real cheap at my local store that i kinda want to look into...should i do it?
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Feb 2011, 09:16
Patrick and I were talking about this the other night.

Voxes are fucking awesome. AC15s are the greatest thing ever, some of those Beatle guys used AC30s, and even the new little AC4 kicks a fair amount of ass.

As far as the cheap, solid state ones go, I've heard a lot of really good things about the Pathfinder 15.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Feb 2011, 10:04
The Allman Brothers had a Vox in there somewhere too and I have it on good authority that the things are made entirely out of sex
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Feb 2011, 10:49
Other rad dudes that have used Vox amps:

Ever hear of Queen? That Brian May guy, he had one. Actually had a signature AC30 a few years ago. Jeff Tweedy rocks them, as well.

And me, once I get an AC4TV later this year.
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Post by: Nodaisho on 05 Feb 2011, 01:28
Had my guitar restrung and reintonated today. Using nickel-wound .12-.54 D'addario strings, tuned to D. My teacher did the work, and he said that the advantage there was that I could tune up to E or down to C as long as I tuned it back to D afterwards, and I wouldn't have to worry about any strain on the neck.

It sounds so good with these .12s. I love the tone I'm getting out of them. I need to adjust the action and the truss rod some, though. The truss rod needs to be a bit tighter, and the action is a bit higher than I want it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Feb 2011, 07:23
I smell a trap.
(And god I wish I had the money for that red covered AC15 I saw today, but it's 150 euros above my budget so I bought a boss TU-3 and an EHX worm to cheer myself up which thinking about it could've gone into the AC15 fund damn it.)
EDIT: OH GOD MY GUITAR SOUNDS LIKE A HAMMOND ORGAN THIS IS SO AWESOME.

I can assure you that I do not work for Vox. I don't even live in England.

I just think they make really solid, great sounding amps.

edit: I guess this is a better place than the confessions thread...guys, I have Schecter GAS.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/7/2/7/782727.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Feb 2011, 07:34
You think you got it bad?
(http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/images/2010%20Schecter%20Diamond/Schecter%202010%20DIAMOND%20SERIES%20DCGL%20Solo-8%20See%20Thru%20Purple%208-String%20Electric%20Guitar.jpg)

Change the EMG's out for Lundgrens and DANG!
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Feb 2011, 07:38
Why I don't understand 8 strings: the neck on that thing looks like the trunk of a redwood tree. How do you get your hands around that shit?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Feb 2011, 08:38
I just do what I do on my seven-string (and the rest of my guitars for that matter): Put my thumb on the centre of the back of the neck, like a classical. It's a lot more comfortable for chording and everything els than the the rather blueswankery "Hendrix-technique". Sure tightens up my playing a lot too.

TL;DR: You don't.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Feb 2011, 08:50
While waiting for this Teisco to come in (the guy said Friday, but I'm guessing he meant next Friday), I'm debating what to do re: the wiring and pickup. If the pots are good, I'll keep them. The body I have now has a wee scratchy tone pot, but I dunno.

Mostly I'm thinking about pickups, though. I was debating a GFS Brighton Rock for it, but noticed that for about $8 more, I could get a Fender AVRI Jaguar pickup from a different site.

What I want is something that'll get me rad ass clean tones (I've been playing a lot of stuff that sounds Real Estate-y lately), but also will take my distortion pedals like a seasoned porn star. Opinions?
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Post by: Lummer on 05 Feb 2011, 09:03
I just do what I do on my seven-string (and the rest of my guitars for that matter): Put my thumb on the centre of the back of the neck, like a classical. It's a lot more comfortable for chording and everything els than the the rather blueswankery "Hendrix-technique". Sure tightens up my playing a lot too.

TL;DR: You don't.

Tl:dr.pt.II:

If you can't figure out how to play a 7- or 8-string, you should take a good hard look at yourself and consider guitar up altogether. It's just an extra string or two, nothing more.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Feb 2011, 09:06
I meant more "that neck looks gigantic". I've played 5 string basses before that were REALLY comfortable, but..see first sentence.
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Post by: Lummer on 05 Feb 2011, 09:09
Ah, ok..

I'm a bit slow today. Four hours of rehearsal is pretty dang tough.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 05 Feb 2011, 17:50
that purple thing is hideous
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Feb 2011, 21:50
Hey, folks. I'm pondering swapping out my telecaster pickups. Any recommendations? I want to stick with single coils and don't want anything fancy or with a stupidly high output, just something traditional or maybe a bit on the hotter side.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Feb 2011, 00:32
Doesn't Duncan make the Quarter Pound pickup for Teles too? I don't think the output is 22k like Lummer's beastly SG's got, but they're a good wee bit hotter than standard, I do believe.
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Feb 2011, 04:32
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs780.ash1/167035_186353284732793_112433198791469_491778_6471947_n.jpg)
Kauer Guitars Daylighter Jr. 4449-52JR
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 06 Feb 2011, 07:25
Huaglphhhhhhhhhhhh...  :psyduck:

Doink!
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Post by: Lummer on 06 Feb 2011, 08:53
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Feb 2011, 10:34
oh man, i really want that. that tort pickguard is fucking sexy as all hell. maybe replace the pickup with a chromey humbucker and off to the races...
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Post by: Rot10Kid on 06 Feb 2011, 11:47
Woah, quit giving me boners.
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Feb 2011, 15:25
Gold w/ Carbon Fiber pickguard. You know, in case the Hulk is using a diamond as a pick.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs043.snc6/167360_186279208073534_112433198791469_491435_323550_n.jpg
**Warning if your boner lasts more than 4 hours...find somebody to help you out with that.**
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Feb 2011, 16:00
holy fuck mang
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Feb 2011, 17:19
yeah, i've been very impressed with what I've been watching at Kauer. I'm good for guitars now. But if I was to get another hi-end axe, I'd get a somewhat customized Daylighter express. I love the way these juniors look though. And one pickups, 2 knobs is simple sex. Anyway, they are on facebook (where these pics come from). It's cool to see nice guitars being built in small runs.
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Feb 2011, 18:43
for such simple guitars, they sure ain't cheap, though. 1900 is a lot of clams to shell out for one pickup, two knobs.
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Post by: Akima on 06 Feb 2011, 22:35
Kauer Guitars Daylighter Jr. 4449-52JR
Does admiring that guitar, while being unable to play the instrument, make me some sort of voyeur?
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Post by: Lummer on 07 Feb 2011, 06:44
No, just human. Those things are hot as fuck.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Feb 2011, 07:36
for such simple guitars, they sure ain't cheap, though. 1900 is a lot of clams to shell out for one pickup, two knobs.


http://cgi.ebay.com/1959-Gibson-Les-Paul-Junior-Jr-Cherry-Near-Mint-/170598905561?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b87cb6d9#ht_720wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/1959-Gibson-Les-Paul-Junior-Jr-Cherry-Near-Mint-/170598905561?pt=Guitar&hash=item27b87cb6d9#ht_720wt_1139)

      /
 :psyduck:

edit: And, it's fucking USED (viiiintaaaaaageeeee). Bloozlawyers love that shit, right?
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Post by: Christophe on 07 Feb 2011, 09:23
Hey Guys my bassist needs a new amplifier because the bottom speaker in ours is busted. His budget's only 'round $300. Aside from rad shit we might find from eBay or Craigslist, which of these combos would work?

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/7/0/0/561700.jpg)
Acoustic B100. 100w 1x15 combo, $249. (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Acoustic-B100-100W-1x15-Bass-Combo?sku=482900)

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/regular/2/4/0/667240.jpg)
Gallien-Krueger MB112. 200w 1x12 combo, $300. (http://bass-guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gallien-Krueger-MB112-200W-1x12-Ultra-Light-Bass-Combo-Amp?sku=423667)

As far as other info goes, we're a typical four-piece rock band with two guitars, bass, and drums. The guitar amps are 50w and 65w solid state amplifiers, and our original bass amp was a 100w 2x10 solid state combo.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Feb 2011, 09:43
that purple thing is hideous

Yeah, that too. the Solo-6 (or I guess Solo-8 in this case) shape is horrible.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Feb 2011, 09:54
at least it looks better than the standard les paul shape. Love the guy, hate the guitars.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Feb 2011, 09:55
If by "better" you mean "someone stuck a Les Paul in a microwave"
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Feb 2011, 10:11
Meh, it's marginally comfortable, which can't be said for most lp-styled guitars. Comfort and playability is a lot more important to me than looks, anyway. I just don't get how Gibson decided to keep the les paul in production after improving the design into the SG. Why isn't my screen-name NotAFanOfGibsons(AlsoRatherAmbivalentTowardsFenderssssss) yet?
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Feb 2011, 10:31
Because while I have decided to love SGs again, I still gotta say, that neck is bullshit in construction. Playable as hell, and god do I love how they sound, but it is really easy to fuck them up real bad. The overall weight of the thing makes for some nice feedback and hella fat tone, but overall that goddamn thing is just too frail.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Feb 2011, 11:01
Meh, it's marginally comfortable, which can't be said for most lp-styled guitars. Comfort and playability is a lot more important to me than looks, anyway. I just don't get how Gibson decided to keep the les paul in production after improving the design into the SG. Why isn't my screen-name NotAFanOfGibsons(AlsoRatherAmbivalentTowardsFenderssssss) yet?

Because in the late 60s there was a demand from players to start making them again.

And then..bloozlawyers.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Feb 2011, 11:37
Oh god, the bloozlawyers. I don't get those guys. A lot of famous blues (and otherwise) were perfectly happy to play and record with shitty gear. Fender pretty much started as an el cheapo "working musician's" brand, with simple and primitive manufacturing techniques. I've played indonesian Ibaneses (Ibanii?) that play better than '60's fenders, but they got the job done, damn it! Now they're being all collectible and shit? What's up with that? Does 'mojo' really do a shit? I've definitely played some pretty sweet vintage guitars, yeah, but what is it with this obsession over old shit these days? Collectors/lawyers of the blooz should stick to stamps, alternatively vinyl.

HALP!

Also, Stratatatatat inbound in less than a week.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Feb 2011, 12:07
No, I'm okay with them keeping vinyl prices low. It's the punk collectors that screw it all up for me.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Feb 2011, 12:12
There are people actively seeking out, purchasing and maybe even ziplocking punk-classics? Putting them in a temperature-controllled environment?

The irony is fabulous
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Feb 2011, 12:14
Dude the Ergs/Teenage Bottlerocket split from a few years ago goes for $50 on eBay.

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Post by: Melodic on 07 Feb 2011, 22:30
the worst thing i've ever done to my wallet
is "like" kauer guitars' facebook page
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Feb 2011, 00:05
NotAFanOfFenders, I have something that might make you feel better about Les Pauls.

Behold. (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-BFG-Electric-Guitar?sku=512579)

(also, admit it, Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton is a great album and that LP is the best-sounding thing you ever heard in your life)
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Feb 2011, 03:18
the worst thing i've ever done to my wallet
is "like" kauer guitars' facebook page
haha 1900 was too high?! I know man, just bustin' on ya.
--*--
re Acoustic v GK combos: dude who was looking as bass amps. Play them both. All of the GK gear Maria has used has been good. Only Acoustic gear I've ever had was their only gtr made in the 70's. Neither matters because it depends on your needs and how that sound is. In other news, kudos on not getting a bass rig the size and weight of a refrigerator. (Yah, I know those typically are lots more). Pro-tip if you have the money at some point, and don't want something you need to weight train to move, check out the Mark Bass stuff. Incredible technology AND super portable.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Feb 2011, 06:31
NotAFanOfFenders, I have something that might make you feel better about Les Pauls.

Behold. (http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Les-Paul-BFG-Electric-Guitar?sku=512579)

I prefer this. (http://www.drumza.com/product/Gibson-Lou-Pallo-Signature-Les-Paul-Electric-Guitar-Ebony-Top-Natural-Back.html)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2011, 11:55
That utter numpty. Forgot to ship the neck bolts with the guitar. And the plastic button on the D tuner snapped in three when I was stringing it up. I was planning on replacing the tuners anyway, though.

By no means is this going to be a restoration. This is going to be a modded out beast. Basically the only things I'm keeping are the neck, body, guard (maybe), and the tailpiece. Right now, just strung up..it sounds good. Very resonant for a little guitar (24.5" scale), though the low E is a little buzzy open, which I think is due to the bridge. Which will be replaced. I'm thinking Mustang bridge. It may be a Trump, but I'll Fender the fuck out of her.


(on a good note, I had a set of neck bolts that fit perfectly.. probably from that Teisco body I already had)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Feb 2011, 12:19
I've been denying myself all the expensive guitars I've been craving lately.   In an effort to cool the gear-lust, I decided to buy a cheap ass xaviere just to have something new to dick around with.   So I ordered an LP junior clone and I even got a blemished one so it would be a little cheaper.  I got to tell you, I'm pretty impressed with the guitar.  Don't get me wrong, this isn't a $3k custom shop guitar by any stretch of the imagination, but you could easily walk into guitar center and drop five or six hundred and not have something that's appreciably better.  

I opened the box and the first thing I did (naturally) was look for the blemishes.   To be honest, it took me a little while to find.  Turns out, the top side of the fingerboard where it meets the neck has a couple of ripples in it.  Yeah, I'm not thrilled about that because I can see it when I'm looking down, but it doesn't affect playability at all.   There is also a tiny, tiny, tiny ding in the back, but no big deal, right?  Hell, it even sounds pretty decent without plugging it in.  From what I can see through the sunburst, this looks like a pretty decent chunk of mahogany-- though I think I'll probably change the strings.  Neck feels nice.  Action is playable.  Okay, cheap plastic nut, but most guitars seem to have that these days.   I've heard that the tuners are shit on these things, but I tuned easily and intonation is good, so we'll see how they do after a few days.

I  plugged it into my little Fender G-Dec practice amp.   Sounds okay.   But hey, it's a goofy little practice amp and every setting is modeling something, so nothing sounds fantastic on it.  Then I plug it into the AC30.  Wow!  This sounds pretty good.  Better, even, than several other guitars I have.  Nice.  Not that I have a whole lot of guitars with P-90s lying around, but this certainly has got a really good sound to it .  Then I plugged it into my VK100 and holy shit it sounds fantastic.   Interestingly, I have a tele that I have GFS pickups in too, and it also sounds really, really good on that amp.  

Anyway, I've been goofing off on it for about an hour, and for $153--which included shipping-- I'm pretty damn impressed.  I think I've found my new sit-in-front-of-the-tv-and-practice guitar for awhile.    Would buy again.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2011, 12:26
Goddammit. I've been wanting one of those, but hoping they sucked seeing that I JUST got a new guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Feb 2011, 14:30
Well I have noticed another problem with it that could potentially be significant to some folks.

I plugged back into my G-Dec, and there was a very distinct --though faint-- chirping sound that was happening about every 3/4 of a second.  Couldn't figure it out for the life of me.  Happened on every channel, though was definitely most prominent on high gain preset channels.  Plug it back into the Peavey; nothing.  Plug it back into the Vox; Nothing.  Into the Fender... chirp, chirp, chirp.   Try a different guitar in the Fender; nothing.  Hmmm.. that's weird, not the amp.   Try a bunch of different settings  on the amp, the damn thing still chirps.   So I got to thinking about how the guts of the guitar work and roll the tone knob all the way down to zero.   No more chirp.   

I'll be damned, seems like that little solid state amp is sensitive enough to play the sound of the tone cap discharging.  It's definitely more prominent the higher I turn up the tone knob, so I rip open the control panel.  Little blue no-name cap in there.  Doesn't even tell me what it's rated for on there.  So I'll replace that, and probably the tone pot too just to be safe, sometime between tonight and whenever I get around to it.  I'm not really concerned about it because I literally have a couple of pots and some brand new caps within arms reach of me, (plus it's only happening on one amp) but for someone who doesn't who has the right amp... turning that thing all the way down sounds like you're playing through a wet sponge.   That could really suck.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2011, 15:43
So it's a solid guitar...unless you have a G-DEC.

Drat.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 08 Feb 2011, 15:59
I think it's more like a decent guitar with a lousy tone cap.   I could be wrong about that though.  I'll let you know when I swap it if it works.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 08 Feb 2011, 22:44
Stumbled across this. kinda makes you wonder why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXu1nZohQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXu1nZohQ&feature=related)
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Post by: Chad K. on 08 Feb 2011, 23:51
How's the neck on those Xavieres?  I've been very interested in picking one up.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 09 Feb 2011, 03:05
Stumbled across this. kinda makes you wonder why we ever left the tidal pools, primordial ooze never did anything that retarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXu1nZohQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXu1nZohQ&feature=related)
fyp
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 09 Feb 2011, 06:18
I think it's more like a decent guitar with a lousy tone cap.   I could be wrong about that though.  I'll let you know when I swap it if it works.
In terms of audible differences between different types of capacitors, there really is none.  orange drop, sprague, PIO, "bumble-bee", whatever, they all do exactly the same stuff.  The only reason to pick one over the other would be its error rate actually.  More important to a guitar's "tone" (really, timbre) is the cap's value and the tone potentiometers value.  Do some more research into these two components.  spending $80 and up on a "vintage" or "replica" capacitor will do the same thing as something from the spare parts drawer at radio shack.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: A Wet Helmet on 09 Feb 2011, 07:25

Wow, you read a whole lot into my post that wasn't there.  What I said is there is a cap in there that has no rating on it.  I suspect the chirp I hear may be it discharging.  I'm going to swap it and the pot to see.  You didn't see anything in there about "OMG I need to find an original .022uF Black Beauty!"   

To the question of the neck... It's pretty nice.  It's straight, and except for the previously mentioned blemishes on the side of the fingerboard, the finish is good.  Frets 19-21 have a little bit of glue coming out of the fret seam, but a couple seconds with an exacto knife is going to fix that no problem.  I would also say that I deliberately bought a blemished product.  That could be part of what QA kicked the dang thing back for.  The joint looks good, I've got good access to the upper frets, and there are no dead spots. 

The frets could be dressed a little better on the high E side, but they're by no means "bad".  I've bought a couple of licensed Fender necks for some parts casters I've built that were way worse.  I even think that my Ibanez semi-hollow is worse straight from the store.  All in all... it's alright.   No major complaints.  In terms of other guitars to compare it to, it's pretty close to my '81 Firebrand Deluxe.   It's a little bit fuller, which I personally like, but I wouldn't go as far as to call it a baseball bat.  It's got a fairly standard "Gibson-y" classic feel.   It's easy to play... I don't know what else there is to say about it.   I'll probably adjust the action up just a hair when I change strings, but otherwise, I'm pretty happy with it.

I would say again though, this is no lost secret guitar of unparalleled awesome.  It seems to be a good guitar for the money you pay for it.  AKA, a good value.  It's a cheap guitar, but I've spent more on other cheap guitars that don't seem to be as good.  We'll see how it holds up.






Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Feb 2011, 11:21
Stumbled across this. kinda makes you wonder why we ever left the tidal pools, primordial ooze never did anything that retarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXu1nZohQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxcXu1nZohQ&feature=related)
fyp

I don't know man, I would definitely want one for recording, although it may be a bit unwieldy in low-light live situations. Too bad my options would be to either pay 4000+ for one, which I can't afford , or attempting to make one myself. Although I would have more use for a 12-string (6-string bass + 6 string guitar or just tuned in fourths + a couple of major thirds with the highest string being a G. This would save me a lot of time finding a new bass and a new 7-string.

What is the problem a lot of "you people" have with added range?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Feb 2011, 11:55
There's a bassist for a reason!

actually..I'm just used to six strings on a guitar. I understand the appeal and idea of 7, but man, 8? and I thought Rondo made a 9 string this year?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Feb 2011, 12:57
Well, yeah once you get down to the low F#/E, you might think you're crossing over to bassist territory, but seeing as an amplified guitar using a bridge pickup is almost all overtones and little to no fundamental, they balance out nicely. Then again, some bassists go "fuck this shit" and tune down an octave to compensate.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with sixers, or that more stringers=bigger dick though, it's all about preference. To be honest i couldn't really imagine all the indie-rock/pop/folk being hyped on these boards being played with this, which is essentially a piano anyway:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/parramatta/101-1.jpg)

And yeah, Rondo do make nine-strings now. This guy though, made an 11-string (http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/extended-range-guitars/114536-update-my-11-string.html) himself, tuned like so:
A4(.0059 custom guitar string)
E4(.010 guitar string)
B3(.013 guitar string)
G3(.017 guitar string)
D3(.032 guitar string)
A2(.042 guitar string)
E2(.052 guitar string)
B1(.068 guitar string)
F#1(.090 guitar string)
C#1(.120 bass string)
G#0(.140 custom bass string)

I R jelly.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 09 Feb 2011, 16:19
Sure, it'd be cool to have, if only for the reason of "Yeah, I own an eighteen string guitar/bass". It just seems so...cumbersome. It'd be easier to run a freaking harp through an amp.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 09 Feb 2011, 16:53
[What is the problem a lot of "you people" have with added range?
Well because the way he's playing the bass is so the-bass-is-just-a-guitar-in-a-lower-octave-hoo-hah. He's got to play it like a piano. As a guy that plays both a very unconventional shaped guitar and with a drum machine, I know it is going to come off as hypocrisy. And maybe it is. But I feel like I just looked at some dude with his fleshlight. And James Jamerson didn't play one o' them. heh
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Post by: David_Dovey on 09 Feb 2011, 17:16
Matt Pike from High on Fire uses a 9-string geetar, but it's more like 3/4 of a 12-string than an extended range like 7 or 8-strings, if you get my meaning.

Here it is (http://www.firstact.com/Products/CustomGuitars/Gallery/Pike_Matt_customDoublecut_9stringCherrySB.aspx)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 09 Feb 2011, 17:40
It's far more entertaining to hear it from the man himself (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvuuhr4fcz0)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 09 Feb 2011, 22:58
[What is the problem a lot of "you people" have with added range?
o. As a guy that plays both a very unconventional shaped guitar and with a drum machine, I know it is going to come off as hypocrisy. And maybe it is. But I feel like I just looked at some dude with his fleshlight.

No, man. Parkers aren't oddly shaped, they're awesomely shaped.

...And when did playing something "like a piano" necessarily become a bad thing?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 09 Feb 2011, 23:29
those 18 string things look hideous, heavy, and ridiculous to play. dunno why anyone would ever want one, or want to play one, except for the sheer ludicrous factor.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 09 Feb 2011, 23:47
those 18 string things look hideous, heavy, and ridiculous to play. dunno why anyone would ever want one, or want to play one, except for the sheer ludicrous factor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SldDtVpTcA

I don't know whether this video Proves or disproves anything. but hey.

guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 10 Feb 2011, 00:01
Well, as for me being a total Grind-freak, I love the idea of a band consisting of just guitar and drums. ERG's really come into their own in that setting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Feb 2011, 01:17
Like, okay, so maybe I can't play three different voicings of the same chord all at once with my MEAGER LITTLE SIX-STRING. But like. Do I fucking care? Okay cool, 8-string guitars, big whoop. 12-strings? That's cool, they are all octaves except the last two courses. That's fine. 18 strings? Just get a mother fucking piano already


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SldDtVpTcA

I don't know whether this video Proves or disproves anything. but hey.

guitar.

I have a primal urge to punch every last tooth out of all of the members of this band.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Feb 2011, 01:39
But Patrick, I suck at piano!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 10 Feb 2011, 01:41
M.A.N. is a pretty shitty band too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 10 Feb 2011, 01:49
I kinda dig their Rip Off of Mudvayne sound. a little.

but I never ever play them.. so that says something.

Just...

if you're gonna have that many strings... play more of them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 10 Feb 2011, 02:06
Well, Rob Guzman is a good guitarist, but someone really needs to tell Tony Jelenovich, their frontman, that 2001 has come and gone and even back then Nu-metal was a dead horse, creatively speaking.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 10 Feb 2011, 04:06
Ever try Googling a band called "MAN"?

Google can't find the damn band, like... EVER.

Might as well have named the band PORN.

...so yeah Rob is the only reason I even know that band exists. I was lurking on Sevenstring and saw that driftwood guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Feb 2011, 05:52
Like, okay, so maybe I can't play three different voicings of the same chord all at once with my MEAGER LITTLE SIX-STRING. But like. Do I fucking care? Okay cool, 8-string guitars, big whoop. 12-strings? That's cool, they are all octaves except the last two courses. That's fine. 18 strings? Just get a mother fucking piano already

Don't forget about twelve string basses. Those things are strange. Apparently Jason Newsted used one with Metallica for a few songs.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 10 Feb 2011, 06:53
this thing is pretty interesting...8 string microtonal guitar. the guy is hard to understand, but hes an effin virtuoso on that thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYK_PF9WTRE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYK_PF9WTRE)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Feb 2011, 11:16
It isn't even so much his accent that makes him tough to understand. Just all that freakin' reverb everywhere. Still, that is actually a pretty awesome idea!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 10 Feb 2011, 16:26
Just get a mother fucking piano already

Now I don't know much about guitars or pianos, but it is my understanding that aside from the difference in numbers of strings between the two instruments, a piano doesn't sound much like a guitar?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Feb 2011, 03:39
Well a piano is a series of push button levers with hammers that "play" the piano. Not that there's is anything wrong with that. Or John Cage "prepared piano." I suspect all of these multi-multi-multi stringed devices are what someone wanted to do their thing. And I am ok with that. They just all look like wangcasters to me. And I used to play a lot of piano, still have one down here in the basement. 80 yr old upright. Some of my best friends are one-armed-one-eye-flying-purple-people-eaters... :angel:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 11 Feb 2011, 08:17
Okay, so...

There's this guy on Craigslist selling a "super rare" Reverend amp and 2x12 cab. I noticed in his ad that it has brand new tubes. Then, at the bottom of the ad, he mentions he also has some 60's GE tubes for sale, same type as the amp takes. So I'm a little miffed by this, because I was kinda considering purchasing the amp/cab but I think he parted out the original tubes of a rare amp just to make a few extra bucks. Am I justified here, or overreacting based on an assumption? If true, would you consider it a total dick maneuver or is that in the realm of normalcy?

Here's the ad so you can judge for yourself.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/2208410189.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 11 Feb 2011, 09:06
Well.

Guys. I have short-scale fever. The Teisco just feels right. Strings a little looser, a little more comfortable. I need a fix. A Jag, a Mustang, something.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 11 Feb 2011, 12:15
New Tele Day!

Well, sorta. Rondo SX Tele-like.

Got it yesterday, totally impressed with the quality of this thing. Everything about it (except the tuners...meh) is better than the squire i played for twice the price.

So today i made it a swimming pool route, threw in a new middle pickup from that weird 60s kingston, gave it a full setup and some big ass new strings, and i love it! I have wanted a tele for years, and now i have one. I have some serious plans for this baby, but here it is for now...

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/tele001.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 11 Feb 2011, 12:21
Okay, so...

There's this guy on Craigslist selling a "super rare" Reverend amp and 2x12 cab. I noticed in his ad that it has brand new tubes. Then, at the bottom of the ad, he mentions he also has some 60's GE tubes for sale, same type as the amp takes. So I'm a little miffed by this, because I was kinda considering purchasing the amp/cab but I think he parted out the original tubes of a rare amp just to make a few extra bucks. Am I justified here, or overreacting based on an assumption? If true, would you consider it a total dick maneuver or is that in the realm of normalcy?

Here's the ad so you can judge for yourself.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/msg/2208410189.html

That does seem suspect, but that amp looks AMAZING.

/double post
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 11 Feb 2011, 13:31
Reverend amps are supposed to be hot shit, but I wonder how much of the magic was in those tubes. That's why I'm down on the sale, and also why I'm pissed if the guy did violate a good, rare amp like that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 11 Feb 2011, 15:25
Retraction... I contacted the guy through the Gear Page and he's on the up-and-up. Glad I didn't make an ass of myself! :)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Feb 2011, 07:15
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/tele001.jpg)

Pic quote for the sake of RAD MOD, DUDE.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 12 Feb 2011, 08:24
Thank you sir. The best part about that pickup is how awesome it sounds. The original guitar sounded thin and jangly and buzzy, but i realize now that was due to the crappiness of the guitar, not the pickup. It really sounds great there. Also, by some amazing coincidence, it must be rwrp from the bridge pickup because its hum cancelling in position 2. Crazy good luck?

The plan is to  eventually get a bigsby on there, but they are so dang expensive itll be a while. Im inspired by the black tele with the bigsby and chet atkins arm with the NOISE sticker someone on OSG has. I think it was posted in here somewhere as well. that thing looks hell of cool.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Feb 2011, 08:26
Speaking of OSG, I thought I saw one of the Tele Bigsby bridge plates for sale the other day.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 12 Feb 2011, 09:05
i cant get into the FS section yet! bah!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Feb 2011, 13:37
That is a pretty neat mod, man. Very Cure-ish.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 12 Feb 2011, 14:15
Alnico 5 War Pig going in my SG in 5.. 4.. 3....
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 12 Feb 2011, 14:57
That is a pretty neat mod, man. Very Cure-ish.

Thanky kindly.

And lummer, doesnt your SG already have a bareknuckle pup?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 13 Feb 2011, 14:26
Just pimpin' my new Strat here...

(Pics are clickable)

(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/LeifMT/Stratatat/th_BILETE255.jpg) (http://s1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/LeifMT/Stratatat/?action=view&current=BILETE255.jpg)

(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/LeifMT/Stratatat/th_BILETE253.jpg) (http://s1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/LeifMT/Stratatat/?action=view&current=BILETE253.jpg)

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 14 Feb 2011, 01:50
Alnico 5 War Pig going in my SG in 5.. 4.. 3....

Between 3 and 1 comes dinner.

NotAFan, what on earth is that on the right? It's.. so attractive.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 14 Feb 2011, 01:54
looks kinda like an old Charvel.

I know a guy who owns a Charvel

he will not stop spelling it Charvelle.

he actually OWNS it. and can't spell it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 14 Feb 2011, 02:07
I just popped a semi at the thought of Charvel Surfcasters.

Tell your friend that Chevelle is a shitty band (but a cool car).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 14 Feb 2011, 02:14
That is a pretty neat mod, man. Very Cure-ish.

Thanky kindly.

And lummer, doesnt your SG already have a bareknuckle pup?

It acted as a test bed for the Para Bellum prototype, but that was not a permanent thing. It's now in my best friend's Flying V:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs902.ash1/181062_10150178116902818_688447817_8523882_4175457_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Feb 2011, 07:01
Alnico 5 War Pig going in my SG in 5.. 4.. 3....

Between 3 and 1 comes dinner.


NotAFan, what on earth is that on the right? It's.. so attractive.


That's my Charvel Spectrum, it's actually the same age of my strat! Which are both older than me!

Spectrums are pretty neat! They came in all the 80's colors of the rainbow.
(http://guitarcollecting.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/charvel_spectrum.jpg)

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Feb 2011, 08:43
looks kinda like an old Charvel.

I know a guy who owns a Charvel

he will not stop spelling it Charvelle.

he actually OWNS it. and can't spell it.

It's like the dudes that always spell Squier wrong.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 14 Feb 2011, 09:23
(http://reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/bolt_on_series/hi_res/flatroc_rorg.jpg)

This has an 80% chance of being mine in the near future.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 14 Feb 2011, 10:27
that 6 in-line neck looks so out of place on that magnificent body
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 14 Feb 2011, 10:42
Good point, it would look better with a 3/3. However, I'm buying this thing despite its looks, not because of them. It plays and sounds *incredible*. I've been searching high and low for a guitar that has the clean chimes of a strat but will still melt my face off with distortion. This seems to be it!

Edit: I also love the Bass Contour Control!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 14 Feb 2011, 11:24
Reverends are dope for the money. I want THIS one.

(http://www.durdels.com/images/products/detail/rick_vito.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 14 Feb 2011, 11:31
I live near SuperSound music, and they have TWO Rick Vitos *in stock*. I went over there and played the green one. It was definitely cool, but it couldn't beat out the Flatroc for what I'm looking for. Also, the green doesn't look quite as awesomely-retro in person. The black looks better in person, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 14 Feb 2011, 11:33
Man that is sad. it looks Deco as hell on their site.

Still, for what the Rick Vito costs. I'd just build a really wicked Partscaster.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: squawk on 14 Feb 2011, 11:46
that is the nicest green
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Feb 2011, 12:51
Wow, you read a whole lot into my post that wasn't there.  What I said is there is a cap in there that has no rating on it.  I suspect the chirp I hear may be it discharging.  I'm going to swap it and the pot to see.  You didn't see anything in there about "OMG I need to find an original .022uF Black Beauty!" 

Oh dang, my bad man.  I have to make this argument quite a bit, so any time someone mentions a tone cap I get a bit edgy.
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Post by: Ballard on 14 Feb 2011, 13:05
It's like the dudes that always spell Squier wrong.

*twitch*
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Feb 2011, 14:41
lul dude you and yr shitty fender squire strat.

Fuck's sake, can you not read a headstock?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 14 Feb 2011, 17:10
That's my Charvel Spectrum, it's actually the same age of my strat! Which are both older than me!

That guitar is made 40% less attractive because of that pointy ass headstock. What a waste.

Everyone else, good guitaring. Keep it up.
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Feb 2011, 20:40
hey guys so
i just noticed an '03 SG special in the window of my local guitar shoppe, used, for $600CDN.
what i'm asking is
do you think $100/night is too expensive a wage to whore myself out and
do you think they'd be willing to hold that guitar for 6 days?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Feb 2011, 22:58
That's my Charvel Spectrum, it's actually the same age of my strat! Which are both older than me!

That guitar is made 40% less attractive because of that pointy ass headstock. What a waste.

Everyone else, good guitaring. Keep it up.


Hey, I love jacksonstocks! It's my favourite part about it.

Pretty sure I'll be selling it soon anyway, I won't really need another sixer for a while now that I've got my strat.
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Feb 2011, 04:45
This weekend I played a '57 Gibson ES-125.

There are no words to describe the raw power of a single P-90 in the neck of a fat-neck Gibson hollowbody like that one. That guitar is truly perfect in every possible way. I've never before been a fan of single-pickup guitars, but that thing blew my fucking head clean off my shoulders.

I've been told by the owner that I am allowed to record with it.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Feb 2011, 05:15
 8-)
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Post by: Kwaping on 15 Feb 2011, 08:42
Patrick - that's awesome!! Buy it.  :laugh:

That "blew my head off my shoulders" is how I felt when I demoed the Reverend Flatroc. I'm working on buying one this weekend.
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Post by: The Duke on 15 Feb 2011, 10:32
hey guys so
i just noticed an '03 SG special in the window of my local guitar shoppe, used, for $600CDN.
what i'm asking is
do you think $100/night is too expensive a wage to whore myself out and
do you think they'd be willing to hold that guitar for 6 days?

$100/night depends on how you are in bed
and six days sounds reasonable, I think they should be willing to hold it that long.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Feb 2011, 10:35
Patrick - that's awesome!! Buy it.  :laugh:

I was going to shit on this, but whoa, they're not bad pricewise, vintage. Most of the ones on Gbase fall between $1,300-1,900. There's a few in the $2,500 range, but man, for say $1,500, you could do a lot worse than this:

(http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdna-cdn.com/usercontent/gear/2304437/p1_ummolmnne_ss.jpg)

Which is apparently a 1951. Patrick, if you found the right one, I'd almost say try and trade for your Jag and a couple hundred bucks.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Feb 2011, 12:03
i cant get into the FS section yet! bah!

Oh, yeah, this. You need 50 posts on OSG before that opens up.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Feb 2011, 04:19
Pad that postcount!
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Feb 2011, 04:21
Actually I am pretty sure Zainal is the one who keeps tab on that subsection of OSG and he pays attention to posting history, which is part of the basis for that, so that might not work.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Feb 2011, 04:21
Basically these last three posts are a poor attempt at making a joke.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: The Duke on 16 Feb 2011, 09:44
Patrick - that's awesome!! Buy it.  :laugh:

I was going to shit on this, but whoa, they're not bad pricewise, vintage. Most of the ones on Gbase fall between $1,300-1,900. There's a few in the $2,500 range, but man, for say $1,500, you could do a lot worse than this:

[image]

Which is apparently a 1951. Patrick, if you found the right one, I'd almost say try and trade for your Jag and a couple hundred bucks.

My buddy has a guitar almost identical to that which he received in beat-to-shit condition that he's working on restoring, although I don't think his is quite as old.

so anyway, I was going somewhere with that and I don't remember where and now my train of thought got lost.  Damn.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Feb 2011, 16:34
so this SG i just tried is fucking phenomenal. it's a special faded with some minor body damage -- well-used but not abused. $600, cash, no tax, and i waaaaaaaaaaaaant it. i tried a couple of standards before and didn't like how heavy it felt -- all that lacquer and binding makes the standard feel really bulky in comparison. about the only things i really liked about the standard was its pickups (and to a more nitpicky extent, the fingerboard inlays. i fucking love non-standard mother-of-pearl inlays on guitars).

so what do you think, guys? $600 for a well-used special that i defo plan to rip the pickups out on?
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Post by: Ballard on 16 Feb 2011, 23:53
So I finally took in that Les Paul that's been sitting around my room disassembled for the better part of a year.

She's a beauty but just totally not my style. Also I need a new MacBook Pro really badly. So she's for sale.

Anyone interested in a mid-90s Gibson Les Paul Special?

Neck/bridge P-90s
Glossy black finish, black pickguard
Ebony fretboard with pearloid dot markers
Optional killswitch (I removed it and re-installed the tone pot it once replaced, but it's still around if that floats your boat)

Looks like this but in black.

(http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/8109/742082.jpg)

Real pics coming soon once I pick her up from the shop.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Feb 2011, 23:57
Fuck you, strip the finish, get some spray-on nitro lacquer and make it awesome.
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Post by: Kwaping on 17 Feb 2011, 08:52
I'm addicted to ebony fretboards. Sucks that I don't own one, though. :(
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Feb 2011, 12:40
Sucks to be you. Ebony fretboards generally look great, especially blank ones. I always shift between flamed maple 1-piece (For the looks, overall 3-pieces obviously have way better stability.) necks and Maple + ebony.
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Post by: Kwaping on 17 Feb 2011, 14:13
It's not so much the looks that get me, it's the feel. So slick! Once I played a guitar with one, I was hooked. (In hindsight, it also must have had amazing frets.)
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Feb 2011, 16:46
Ebony is warm. Carbon fiber is hot. Sexxy, sexxy hot.  :laugh:
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Feb 2011, 22:32
hey so i just tuned to Bb. how come no one told me how awesome this was before?
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Post by: Nodaisho on 17 Feb 2011, 23:28
Because good luck playing in tune past the 5th fret if you are intonated to E.

edit: The bridge on my les paul is really tight at the adjustment for the action. Any advice on how to adjust it without screwing it up? I'm thinking possibly pliers covered in duct tape to avoid scratching it up while still getting a better grip than my fingers.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Feb 2011, 10:01
hey so i just tuned to Bb. how come no one told me how awesome this was before?

Oh hi, I didn't hear you there over always having a guitar tuned to Bb.

Seriously though go beyond. Tune to F standard, and never look back.
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Post by: edwinalink on 18 Feb 2011, 10:35
How about if we just tune to a full octave below Drop D?

will that be the metalerest ever?

I'd try but... I'm worried my fingers will get caught in my strings.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Feb 2011, 10:48
I've written songs for E B F# C# G# D# (full fifths) With the E being a E0. That's an octave below a standard bass E. I need funds for guitars to record this stuff with.
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Post by: edwinalink on 18 Feb 2011, 14:58
Clearly I have no idea what I'm talking about.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Feb 2011, 15:40
(http://www.chuckrainey.com/pics/jamerson/2-B&W.jpg)
Good I covered the blasphemy with page break awesome.
 :|
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Post by: Melodic on 18 Feb 2011, 15:41
man i like drop-c but why in fuck would you need it on a bass?

re: Bb, metal-heads aside, this tuning rocks for ambient shit. kinda wishing i'd bought the baritone version of my dano so i could put on some nice heavy flat-wound strings and actually keep it in tune.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Feb 2011, 16:03
'Ambient shit' is what I usually use F/F# standard for.

Also GDADGBE is a really cool tuning, but I feel like I'm going to need to get a 30" scale seven for it to get optimal tone. There might be an Agile in my future...
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Feb 2011, 21:45
My old not-very-good acoustic is tuned to CFCFAF.  Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, bitches.

Other than that, my electrics are basically always in standard tuning, and my actually-decent acoustic is in DGCFAD.
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Post by: SSPKR on 18 Feb 2011, 22:03
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/chicagowarmth/335BasicAudio.jpg)
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Feb 2011, 01:11
you little cunt
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Feb 2011, 05:17
man i like drop-c but why in fuck would you need it on a bass?

re: Bb, metal-heads aside, this tuning rocks for ambient shit. kinda wishing i'd bought the baritone version of my dano so i could put on some nice heavy flat-wound strings and actually keep it in tune.
because, on my shortass scale length bass, I like my strings to feel like I'm playing with Spaghetti and you can really get some soul destroying sounds with a reverb, a guitar wah-wah a fuzz and a delay. Also. my bass has what is essentially a cheap squier strat pickup in it, so to get any bass out of it at all I need to tune it down.
I don't always play in drop C, but it's definitely fun.

tl;dr: I am a bassist who think he will get laid more often if his instrument sounds like the wroth of some ancient god. Also, I've just realised I haven't picked up my bass since I got my dano, actually.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vAalqCpqCA
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Feb 2011, 05:48
And that has what to do with anything?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 19 Feb 2011, 11:31
Maybe it's his way of saying "stop talking about bass, it's the worst"
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 19 Feb 2011, 11:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmjTewxbDZw&playnext=1&list=PL73FD66E1FB20F038
I'm sorry, what?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Feb 2011, 11:43
Fuck yeah!
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Post by: Ballard on 19 Feb 2011, 12:27
you little cunt
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Feb 2011, 13:18
Clearcoat the neck while keeping the fingerboard under tape. The finish on the side of the fretboard can easily be scraped off. Whatever oil you use for regular fretboard maintenance should do the trick for the rosewood.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Feb 2011, 13:40
And that has what to do with anything?
I had a point, was in a hurry and could not expound on it. Now I'm pointless.

Who likes guitars?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Feb 2011, 16:24
Who likes guitars?

Guitars are sort of neat, I guess.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Feb 2011, 17:08
Are not.
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Post by: celticgeek on 19 Feb 2011, 17:13
Some of them are. (http://www.guitars-m-r-sons.com/catalog/index.htm)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Feb 2011, 08:03
You are going to spray the body and neck individually right? As in not having anything bolted to anything else. Just checking.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Feb 2011, 12:06
I missed out on this whole tuning thing, but right now I keep my Tele in standard E tuning, and the Trump is tuned DGDBGD.
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Post by: Melodic on 20 Feb 2011, 15:19
To a certain extent I feel a little nerdy talking about all of these alt tunings, but it feels really liberating to discover these odd setups and being able to play something totally different. My acoustic is in FFDFCF right now, which is a gorgeous fingerpicking arrangement. Think DMST uses it.

On another note, I have never really figured out guitar tuning. Like, I've learned guitar thru tabs and nothing else, so when people start talking about "play in the key of A" or some shit I have no idea what they're taking about. Is there some kind of beginners guide to this kind of theory?

Oh man so caffeinated I wanna talk about MUSIC
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Feb 2011, 16:03
I think it would be a good time to learn where all the whole steps and half steps are.
It is quite liberating because then you know what chords go (best) with what keys. It is almost magical.  :psyduck: Because once you know what key something is, and the pattern of Whole and half steps... it is a simple matter of I ii iii IV V vi vii° for every major key. One you get that, then it is a simple matter of discovering what the relative minor is and doing the same figure. e.g.
C Major key chords that naturally occur (made from the notes of C Maj) UPPER CASE = MAJ lower case = min. °=diminished.
C d e F G a b° <-- e.g. C maj (I) is made up of the triad C, e, and G. dm (ii) is d, F, and a...etc
Then learn the modes (same as this just starting from a new beginning point).
So, C maj - CdeFGab,
the relative minor is am, abCdeFG
d dorian, same letters (and MAj/Min chords), you just count starting from d:
deFGab°C
Wikipedia is actually quite good on the modes.
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Post by: Melodic on 20 Feb 2011, 16:48
see
i didn't understand a word of that
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Post by: celticgeek on 20 Feb 2011, 16:56
Check this out:  Music Theory (http://www.8notes.com/theory/).
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Post by: Nodaisho on 20 Feb 2011, 17:51
see
i didn't understand a word of that
A few basic things.

1. All major keys are built to the same pattern.

2. all other keys are built off of a major key (there's probably an exception that I don't know).

Major keys, you start at the root (let's say it's C for this). Then you go one whole step to the second (D), one whole step to the third (E), one half step to the fourth (F, because E is one half step from F), one whole step to the fifth (G), one whole step to the sixth (A), one whole step to the seventh (B), and then it would be one more half step to the octave (C again). Then you get into what chords in that key are major, minor, and minor diminished, which Doombilly posted.

Any minor key contains exactly the same chords as the major key that has the root note of the minor key at its sixth position. So the minor key corresponding to C major would be A minor. Does that make sense?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 20 Feb 2011, 18:02
This is also helpful:

(http://blogs.sbschools.org/fossamusic/files/2009/02/fifths2.gif)

Google "circle of fifths" for more info
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Feb 2011, 03:57
see
i didn't understand a word of that

2. all other keys are built off of a major key (there's probably an exception that I don't know).

like Melodic and Harmonic Minor and also many non-western scales or modes. Also there are a bunch of experimental thingies, but if you learn the 7 modes you will be doing pretty f'ing well. /pedant

It didn't make sense to me either. For years. I had a solid D- in music theory but then was unemployed and holed up in a shack for about 9 months with an acoustic gtr w/ 5 strings.
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Post by: GenericName on 21 Feb 2011, 05:01
Someone had a really good post like a year ago on here explaining all seven modes and also the pentatonic and blues scales. It didn't so much go into how they related to different keys but they basically explained this
Major keys, you start at the root (let's say it's C for this). Then you go one whole step to the second (D), one whole step to the third (E), one half step to the fourth (F, because E is one half step from F), one whole step to the fifth (G), one whole step to the sixth (A), one whole step to the seventh (B), and then it would be one more half step to the octave (C again).
visually. Let me see if I can find the post.

Edit: So yeah this is the post: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,22863.msg799801.html#msg799801
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Post by: Fissioninferno on 22 Feb 2011, 00:15
Aww yeah.

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/28444_399412268021_538078021_4455438_1517616_n.jpg)

Left to right: Kerry King Signature V (10-52 gauge Cleartone strings, EMG-81/85 set with a preamp, Kahler Kybrid tremolo [unfortunately, the fifth string's fine-tuner is stripped and I can't be arsed to get it fixed], tuned in open C [CGCGCE]), Lauren acoustic ($90 new, sounds wonderful, need to replace the strings on it, standard tuning), Warlock platinum series (crappy stock humbuckers, hell-if-I-know tremolo, standard gauge strings, standard tuning).

The KKSV was a giant waste of money, $1000 new, I regret it so much.
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Post by: Ballard on 22 Feb 2011, 00:22
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Hell, I'd be hard pressed to accept one for free.

That acoustic is real nice though.
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Post by: Lummer on 22 Feb 2011, 00:33
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

HEY-OOOO!
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Post by: Fissioninferno on 22 Feb 2011, 00:34
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Oh, the burning pain!  Right in my appendix!
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Post by: edwinalink on 22 Feb 2011, 02:01
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?

Hell, I'd be hard pressed to accept one for free.

That acoustic is real nice though.

Two being the operative word there.

I paid a lot for my first Rich.

It made sure it was my last.

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Post by: Patrick on 22 Feb 2011, 02:54
you little cunt

I would like to reiterate and stress the importance of this. Holy fuck.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Feb 2011, 03:24
Modes aren't that difficult really, it's just getting someone to explain them properly that's the hard part.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/67766/modes.mht  something I came up with to help me understand what I was explaining to the wife.
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Post by: Chad K. on 22 Feb 2011, 04:46
I'm kind of surprised no one posted this yet because you guys are normally all over the guitarfetish site. That said, the poor man's gretsch, complete with those amazing gfs gretsch style pickups-

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xaviere-XV-950-Rockabilly-Hollowbody-Guitars_c_311.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Feb 2011, 07:29
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?


Explain please.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 22 Feb 2011, 08:50
Is nobody going to explain that spalted maple pedal????

"holy fuck" indeed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Feb 2011, 09:21
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?


Explain please.

They make the most hideous looking guitars in existence.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Feb 2011, 10:12
Who in their right mind would willingly pay for two B.C. Rich guitars?


Explain please.

They make the most hideous looking guitars in existence.

Truly a most objective opinion.

That being said, I find most of them (cheapos) to be pretty ugly (pinstripes were never cool). Proper american Rico riches however, are the sex. A single-picup, floyded, desert-yellow Ironbird is one of my visions of an ideal guitar.

I can't stand the look of strats either, yet I own one.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Feb 2011, 10:21
(http://axewar.com/uploaded_files/1277065719-IMG0095.jpg)
Really?

Over something like...I dunno, this?

(http://www.darrenriley.com/images/60esquire137s.jpg)

I'll choose the one that you can't stab someone with.
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Post by: Fissioninferno on 22 Feb 2011, 10:28
I dunno, man, I think having a guitar that could double as a weapon would be pretty bad-ass.  Stick a bayonet on the headstock and off you go!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Feb 2011, 10:42
But that esquire is all beat up. Fuck that shit, I'd take the Rich.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Feb 2011, 10:45
It's like 48 years old dude, of course it's beat up.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 22 Feb 2011, 11:07
I LIKE how my Rich Looked. I still do. the god awful neck, horrid electronics and untunable Floyd were all the things that killed it for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Fissioninferno on 22 Feb 2011, 11:32
I LIKE how my Rich Looked. I still do. the god awful neck, horrid electronics and untunable Floyd were all the things that killed it for me.

I actually like the appearance of most of the BC Rich styles, including my Warlock.  Stock humbuckers are awful, though, and so is the trem, but I like the feel of the neck.  The KKSV is actually really nice, love the EMGs and the Kahler hybrid trem; any experience I've had with Floyd trems has been utter crap.  I'm grateful I haven't actually owned a guitar with a Floyd Rose.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Feb 2011, 11:45
It's like 48 years old dude, of course it's beat up.

Another reason I wouldn't choose it. 7.5" Radius, cricket-bat neck and microphonic singlecoils no-thanks. I'm quite happy with my 20 year old guitars, but after the vintage mark I tend to not really like anything. I like new teles, I've really jived with some of them, and that sort of pug-faced look is pretty endearing.

I mean, vintage stuff tends to be pretty insanely priced as well:

Fuckin' stratatatat (http://cgi.ebay.com/1956-ORIG-FENDER-VINTAGE-STRATOCASTER-STRAT-COLLECTOR-/350296386712?pt=Guitar&hash=item518f4aac98#ht_1982wt_1139)

telelele (http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Telecaster-Blonde-Maple-Neck-1958-/360346449765?pt=Guitar&hash=item53e6527765)
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Feb 2011, 11:52
Dude yeah I could say vintage LPs are overpriced too, but fucks sake, you can get mid-70s Musicmasters and Broncos for >700.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Feb 2011, 12:16
Well, yeah, and I can't stand how those play either. Like how they look though.

Let's hope no-one uncovers photos of Clapton, SRV or Page playing them though. The price would go from ~700 to ~7000.
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Feb 2011, 13:03
That and as far as guitars as weapons go, My stake is definitely on the telecaster.  The frankenstein one I put together is heavy as fuuuuck and pretty indestructible.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 22 Feb 2011, 14:00
Well, yeah, and I can't stand how those play either. Like how they look though.

Let's hope no-one uncovers photos of Clapton, SRV or Page playing them though. The price would go from ~700 to ~7000.

Claptrap did play quite a few different things, but it never skyrocketed Explorers (too much) or MusicMan amps.

Actually, I know nothing about the vintage Explorer market.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 22 Feb 2011, 20:20
I'm kind of surprised no one posted this yet because you guys are normally all over the guitarfetish site. That said, the poor man's gretsch, complete with those amazing gfs gretsch style pickups-

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xaviere-XV-950-Rockabilly-Hollowbody-Guitars_c_311.html

Ooh the punk rawk tones I would pull from that surf green gal.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 22 Feb 2011, 23:47
That and as far as guitars as weapons go, My stake is definitely on the telecaster.  The frankenstein one I put together is heavy as fuuuuck and pretty indestructible.

This..

Keith Richards once said in an interview that the Telecaster is bar none the best guitar to beat people over the head with.

Naturally, I'm making a Warmoth tele for myself this summer, for when I go on tour.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2011, 00:11
But that esquire is all beat up. Fuck that shit, I'd take the Rich.

 :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:

The fact that you have made this post means we can never be truly good friends. I mean I like you just fine but like... there's some things we'd need to reconcile before being super good buds.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 23 Feb 2011, 00:27
I'm making a Warmoth

Dude, are you the one who turned me onto Warmoth? so many dreams I have for their partscasters!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Feb 2011, 03:16
I'm kind of surprised no one posted this yet because you guys are normally all over the guitarfetish site. That said, the poor man's gretsch, complete with those amazing gfs gretsch style pickups-

http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xaviere-XV-950-Rockabilly-Hollowbody-Guitars_c_311.html

Ooh the punk rawk tones I would pull from that surf green gal.
Jebus those inlays are ...what is that the profile of a poop pile? Otherwise beautiful.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 23 Feb 2011, 05:46
Hmm, they really look like...



(http://www.portlandpercussion.com/mayebay/classicmockingbird02.JPG)


Oh. my. god.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Feb 2011, 05:52
Naturally, I'm making a Warmoth tele for myself this summer, for when I go on tour.

They do Cabronita bodies and guards and I want so badly to build one.

Or a Cabronita-based Jazzmaster with their "split" body.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 23 Feb 2011, 07:19
That and as far as guitars as weapons go, My stake is definitely on the telecaster.  The frankenstein one I put together is heavy as fuuuuck and pretty indestructible.

This..

Keith Richards once said in an interview that the Telecaster is bar none the best guitar to beat people over the head with.

Naturally, I'm making a Warmoth tele for myself this summer, for when I go on tour.
I've heard a lot of good things about USA custom Guitars (http://www.usacustomguitars.com/).  Super nice guys and quality craftsmanship.  A lot of people I've talked to swear by them over warmoth, but then again, I'm sure a certain amount of that is brand loyalty though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 23 Feb 2011, 11:52
Anybody understand Artist guitars? I'm often confused about endorsements. Such as this (http://www.peachguitars.com/guitars/pre-owned-guitars/fender-custom-shop-john-mayer-black-1-ex-collection.htm).

And those sort of guitars that are basically knock off Strats, but cost more than a Standard American version - I guess I've always wondered "why, when you can buy the real deal?", but brands such as Suhr are really catching my eye.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Feb 2011, 12:21
Better build quailty, I suppose. I know Fano guitars are mad expensive, but damn if his stuff isn't a little better/cooler than what Fender does.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Feb 2011, 12:44
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/3/6/798036.jpg)

Oh hey look what got reissued. OM NOM NOM.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Fissioninferno on 23 Feb 2011, 16:43
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/3/6/798036.jpg

Oh hey look what got reissued. OM NOM NOM.

Ohgod that looks deliciousssss
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Feb 2011, 16:55
Wow that gave me Schecter wood. Two knobs. No tremelo. And not 9 stringed. What does it cost?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 24 Feb 2011, 00:17
So the top strap button of my Douglas Melody Faker got ripped out again during practice. I am disappoint.

Sawdust and wood glue's supposed to be the fix here, though I've got neither. Anyone else have any other recommendations for fixing this shit that don't involve duct tape, or at least a cheap place to get sawdust or sawdust equivalent?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 24 Feb 2011, 00:39
Jam a Toothpick in the hole with a bit of glue.screw it in alongside it.

Works for me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Feb 2011, 02:41
You know, over the last couple of days, I have heard a few things about my hollowbody. For example, some clearly insane man told me tonight that it was worth 10x what I paid for it. He wanted me to come into his shop for an appraisal. I just told him I wasn't interested; I'm not looking to sell that guitar for any reason, and anybody who thinks otherwise is absolutely a madman.

Do any of the rest of you guys hate that shit as much as I do? Where random-ass people who don't know their shit come up and talk to you as if they DO know their shit? Come on, man, you can tell me all you want that my budget-brand, budget-made, unheard-of guitar is worth a mint. I'll never believe you. Not considering what I see them sell for on the interwebs.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 24 Feb 2011, 03:01
Jam a Toothpick in the hole with a bit of glue.screw it in alongside it.

Works for me.
or a wooden match sans the lighty part. Or get a bigger screw.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Feb 2011, 05:49
Wow that gave me Schecter wood. Two knobs. No tremelo. And not 9 stringed. What does it cost?

Six hundy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 24 Feb 2011, 11:44
That new Ultra II looks nice! Can't wait to find one in-store to try it out.

Found this weapon guitar while looking for that Ultra II...

(http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionLarge/Dean/822477.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Feb 2011, 11:46
Congratulations Dean, for ruining the reputation of pointy guitars worldwide. Razorbacks aren't even comfortable to play while sitting down, they just poke you like they're teasing you for playing them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Feb 2011, 12:04
at least a cheap place to get sawdust or sawdust equivalent?

Do you have a saw and wood?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 24 Feb 2011, 12:08
Does that Dean have any redeeming qualities as a guitar?  It's over $1000 for a Chinese import that looks terrible.

I've been looking after guitars with a raised mid section for a while.  The Schecter looks great, but for about $50 more you could nab a Reverend Warhawk II.  The Gibson Firebird 2010 is their traditional reverse style and looks brilliant, but at twice the cost of the Reverend or Schecter it isn't something I'd consider for myself anytime soon.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Feb 2011, 12:21
If you want a guitar that looks as though you've beaten people to death with it, is there really any other option?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Feb 2011, 13:24
RadAC, just wanted you to know, the fact that I now know the Warhawk exists makes me really really happy this morning. Thank you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 24 Feb 2011, 15:23
or at least a cheap place to get sawdust or sawdust equivalent?

1. Where's an *expensive* place to get sawdust?

2. Does "sawdust equivalent" exist, and if so, is it less expensive than actual sawdust?

:D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 24 Feb 2011, 15:53
I usually just break up a toothpick into smaller pieces and jam that shit in there. It's served both my spectrum and strat well so far.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 24 Feb 2011, 15:58
Sawdust equivalent - I guess wood shavings? Like taking a plane to a piece of wood or something. We are talking sawdust and not gold dust, right?

After a bit of internet browsing, "sawdust equivalents" vary: potting soil, large quantity of dandruff, or if you live near Phillips, WI then there's a good alternative animal bedding place you can go to.

I got sawdust for free in very large quantities from a carpenter friend - know anybody in that sort of business? I can't imagine its particularly hard to come by. Either that or just go and buy a saw, a plastic bag and find a tree.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 24 Feb 2011, 16:14
I realized I had a spare cache of toothpicks, so I just went with that. Looks like it's staying in there for the time being.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 24 Feb 2011, 16:22
hey patrick fuck your avatar i keep thinking you're bryan
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ikrik on 24 Feb 2011, 17:36
Alright, I don't really want to crawl through the over 100 pages of this thread to find an answer...so...

I want to get a guitar, a nice electric guitar for around $500.  This will be my first guitar.  What do I need to know?  And what suggestions would you give? 
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 24 Feb 2011, 18:02
Jenn Wasner from Wye Oak played a black Warhawk when I saw them open for Shearwater a couple years ago.  Also, as of today Reverend is selling basses!  They look pretty swank, and hopefully sound as good as their guitars.

Ikrik, what kind of music do you want to play?  Are you just learning, starting a band, or just want to play in your room?  Do you have an amp?  If not how much are you willing to spend on one?  Those are some basic things you should mention before asking for a recommendation.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 24 Feb 2011, 18:12
Alright, I don't really want to crawl through the over 100 pages of this thread to find an answer...so...

I want to get a guitar, a nice electric guitar for around $500.  This will be my first guitar.  What do I need to know?  And what suggestions would you give? 


www.rondomusic.com
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ikrik on 24 Feb 2011, 19:00
I would like to play blues/jazz by myself, I will be learning how to play, I have a few friends who can teach me and I have no problem learning on my own.

I do not have an amp but I'll pick up one that's of a good quality....is the recommendation for a guitar really going to change depending on the amp?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 24 Feb 2011, 19:28
The amp question is important so you don't blow all your money on a nice guitar and get a crappy amp, which is going to be at least as important as your guitar for sound
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Feb 2011, 01:53
Alright, I don't really want to crawl through the over 100 pages of this thread to find an answer...so...

I want to get a guitar, a nice electric guitar for around $500.  This will be my first guitar.  What do I need to know?  And what suggestions would you give? 


www.rondomusic.com

Go with an Agile AL if you're in the US. Supreme value for money to be had there. There are plenty of options to choose from as well. You may also want to get a line 6 POD, if not to replace your amp, then to easily record yourself, which is IMO really important for self-improvement.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2011, 02:25
Guys, ever since they started chambering the bodies on Les Pauls, they've all started sounding like shit.

Just wanted to get that out there since I got to play a friend's Paul and it fucking RULED even though it weighed like a bajillion tons.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2011, 05:49
Alright, I don't really want to crawl through the over 100 pages of this thread to find an answer...so...

I want to get a guitar, a nice electric guitar for around $500.  This will be my first guitar.  What do I need to know?  And what suggestions would you give? 

You can get a used Mexican Fender Tele for under $500. The brand new ones usually go for about $550, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Feb 2011, 06:51
If you're lucky you could get a MIJ tele for under that. Better build quality overall.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 25 Feb 2011, 07:37
Mexican made Fenders are interesting - you find a good one and its really good. You find a bad one and its worse than a Squier. Not a lot of "middle of the road" type Mexicans, in my experience. I have a MIM Strat and its pretty damn good - and if we're talking a first guitar then I'm not sure that superior build quality is a huge deal. I know it sounds stupid to say, but its the same with most hobbies. You start of with something cheap and shitty, and only after you learn the ropes you realise that there are better things out there.

But for $500, I'd opt for a Mexican Strat or Tele. How much do PRS SEs go for?

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Feb 2011, 08:32
RULE #1: Always buy used! Especially if you're just starting and don't know what you want.

That way, if you don't like it, you can flip it for something else and get close to what you paid for it, if not break even.

I break this rule a lot, but that's just because I'm stupid. That, and the guitars I want never seem to come up on the used market. :(

Other than that, my advice is start spending all your free time in guitar stores, trying out different guitars and amps.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2011, 08:33
i think shane does, but anyone else have experience with epiphone valve jr.s? one popped up on the austin CL for $95 with a Hammond 125CSE transformer+JJ tubes. it has a 4ohm speaker output which means i could play guitar (not into a bass head for once) through my emperor 2x15  :psyduck:

but yeah, i'd like to know some more about these heads and what they are good for.

I wish I did. I'd asked for one for xmas about five years ago and got a crappy little Peavey solid-state thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Feb 2011, 08:35
Those Reverend basses look great, but wow... were they named by a five-year-old, or what?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Feb 2011, 16:27
Still waiting for more info on that spalted maple pedal that was posted a page or two back...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: SSPKR on 25 Feb 2011, 20:40
Still waiting for more info on that spalted maple pedal that was posted a page or two back...

It's a Basic Audio treble-booster.  I've got a few other BA pedals.  Here's a rehouse he did of a 70's Carlsbro Flanger (amazing circuit, but the original enclosure was horrific).

http://www.basicaudio.net/ (http://www.basicaudio.net/)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/chicagowarmth/FlangerCloseUp.jpg)

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/chicagowarmth/FlangerBack.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Feb 2011, 16:41
I like it, at least it's not as strat shape. A little curve on the lower part would be pretty cool though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Feb 2011, 04:27
OR!

You could convince him to go the Blackmachine/Parker route and just leave the bare necessity of wood in there. Also, get a graphtech nut for it, they're pretty cheap and will basically make it stay in tune!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Feb 2011, 06:51
There are bound to be a couple of stores in your area that carry that sort of stuff though, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Feb 2011, 11:53
(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/525/051/DV016_Jpg_Large_H71386_V.jpg)

Best or worst $25 ever spent? We'll find out later this week.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Feb 2011, 12:12

OH GOD DUDE, VALLEY-PARADE, LOOOOK!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XejLGKJyX2U)

This is what dano-pedals are like!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 27 Feb 2011, 12:14
Dunno about the sound, but that pedal just looks fragile as fuck. Like you'd have ti be really careful when stepping on it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Feb 2011, 14:03
It's a plastic case, yeah.

I figure at some point I might recase it or something. http://www.pedalpartsplus.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PPP&Product_Code=1062&Category_Code=DRI
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 27 Feb 2011, 14:14
Is that kid for realz or just a troll? I wouldn't find it THAT hard to believe he thinks he knows what he's doing based on what people said in high school, but whatever.

Damn its been such a long time since I got a pedal. Ever since I got the ME-50 the only thing I got was a fuzz pedal for my brother. It was a Behringer, and actually pretty good for £20 or however much I paid for it. Hard metal case too.

So in terms of pedals, are pedals that are dedicated to a genre a good thing or not? Blues pedals are everywhere. Isn't it just overdrive?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Feb 2011, 14:15
Was it the Behringer "Vintage Distortion"?

It's supposed to be a pretty decent Big Muff clone.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 27 Feb 2011, 14:51
Why not just get a big muff? The new ones are still fairly close to the originals (but more reliable),  frankly not that expensive as pedals go, and they're just awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Feb 2011, 15:06
I like highly inexpensive gear. You realize I paid $35 for my last guitar, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 27 Feb 2011, 15:07
I've just realized that the only actual pedal I've used in the past 2-3 years has been an awesome vintage Ibanez EQ pedal, and even that I never actually use. That doesn't mean I'm not gassing awfully hard for an ISP decimator and a ts-808 though.

Also, my Carvin does not have a heel. I like this:

(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee452/LeifMT/Gitarar%20ute/DSC_0414-1.jpg?t=1298847992)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 27 Feb 2011, 15:49
OR!

You could convince him to go the Blackmachine/Parker route and just leave the bare necessity of wood in there. Also, get a graphtech nut for it, they're pretty cheap and will basically make it stay in tune!

Well don't pare it down too much. Parkers have the carbon fiber exoskeleton, except for the newer DF (Maxx) models. And they have more headstock than ye olde ones.
I think if you cut down to one like my Niteflys your strings would possible break it w/o the shell reinforcement. But I'm no engineer, lawyer, doctor, indian squaw...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 27 Feb 2011, 16:37
Guys, ever since they started chambering the bodies on Les Pauls, they've all started sounding like shit.

Just wanted to get that out there since I got to play a friend's Paul and it fucking RULED even though it weighed like a bajillion tons.
Sorry, but you're wrong. Maybe they don't sound as good, but I still love the way mine sounds.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 27 Feb 2011, 17:06
sorry but your subjective taste is back-asswards.

also dano pedals are pretty awesome! just, the cases are terribad.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Nodaisho on 27 Feb 2011, 20:41
Melodic, are you seriously trying to tell me that every Les Paul since '81 has sounded terrible? Or were you trying to say that I shouldn't call someone's opinions wrong?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 27 Feb 2011, 21:01
The latter, but I've never liked Les Pauls.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Feb 2011, 09:00
sorry but your subjective taste is back-asswards.

also dano pedals are pretty awesome! just, the cases are terribad.

Your opinions confuse me.

New les pauls tend to sound pretty good once you get the usually shitty stocks out of there, and dano pedals are shite. I tested out the fuzzthingy and the mehtullz quite few times a couple of years ago, and UGGH, no.

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Feb 2011, 14:28
No worries. I'll be running an Electro Harmonix Double Muff (which despite the name is overdrive, not fuzz) into the Dano. Wall. O. Sound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 28 Feb 2011, 16:12
When you rehouse them into steel enclosures, they're no worse than the cheaper (ie. METAL DISTORTIOOOOOON) BOSS pedals, and at least they don't run out of batteries when you leave the cable plugged in.
and tbh: things likie the big muff aren't that amazing without other pedals to modulate them.

DS-1 FTWW!!1!!!

But I actually have a DS-1. And I really don't understand the hate.

But I've also got like, every other possible BOSS effect on a huge blue metal thing so yeah. I could always do with a more Chorus though. And a better delay.

Only thing thats bad is that you can't say, combine distortion effects, or modulation effects, or delay times. So the idea of separate pedals is always intriguing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 28 Feb 2011, 20:06
what kind of pedals are you running out of your big muff?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2011, 03:26
Guys, I can't justify owning a Jag when I could own a car instead. I'll get more use out of the car; ever since I bought the hollowbody I don't use the Jag anymore.

$1300 including OHSC (+$20 shipping to the Lower 48, +$50 for others, sorry guys), willing to negotiate a bit. She was my workhorse for a good couple of years, got the associated buckle rash. Got some ugly dings on the lower body near the jack, that's how she came to me. Original bridge and bridge cover, intonated for Ernie Ball 11s. Schaller roller bridge is included in case you don't like the original bridge. Strap locks were installed by previous owner, will include the parts that go on the strap itself. Strap not included. She was with me on Albanian television, if that counts for anything.

PM me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 01 Mar 2011, 05:05
To me, with no context, a "Jag" is  a car.    :-P
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Mar 2011, 05:52
Jag (http://www.thefellowshipofacoustics.com/images1/image/gitaren/Fender%20Jaguar%20limited%20special%20019.jpg) > Jag (http://www.lemonlawvehicle.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jaguar_xj.jpg)

edit: Also, the Fender Jaguar Strat (http://www.ibanezregister.com/images/forsale/fender/jagstrat6.jpg)  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 01 Mar 2011, 15:40
That's horrible
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 01 Mar 2011, 17:06
re: Jag

Jesus christ Patrick you're doing it so wrong it hurts.

unrelated, I finally got a post with pictures up for that Special.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/2241974387.html
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2011, 18:39
Sorry to disappoint, but like, I've got more important shit I need to do. Like get a second (or better) job and more gigs. I need a car more than I need a Fender Jaguar right now and nothing anybody can say will convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 01 Mar 2011, 21:53
i support patrick! jags are ugly as fuck.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 02 Mar 2011, 00:32
To me, with no context, a "Jag" is  a car.    :-P

In that instance I believe it's pronounced "Jaaaaaag"..
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 02 Mar 2011, 00:55
i support patrick! jags are ugly as fuck.

Whoa man. Whoa. You started out okay and then you completely shit all over yourself. You straight up went Tubgirl on this thread.

Take it back. Right now. RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Mar 2011, 01:21
To me, with no context, a "Jag" is  a car.    :-P

In that instance I believe it's pronounced "Jaaaaaag"..
Jaaaaaaaaaag!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 02 Mar 2011, 04:37
To say a Jag is anything less than beautiful deserves a slap in the face.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rot10Kid on 02 Mar 2011, 05:38
"A Jag is less than anything beautiful."  :-P
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Mar 2011, 05:50
i support patrick! jags are ugly as fuck.

DEATH TO THE TRAITOR.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 02 Mar 2011, 06:13
"A Jag is less than anything beautiful."  :-P

Nice going there, blinky.

Regardless of hipster credibility, offsets are just wonderful and very aesthetically pleasing. Well, them and most shortscales. And Ibanez headstocks for some retarded reason.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 02 Mar 2011, 06:44
Jags definitely aren't as pretty as Jazzmasters though is the thing. I think that's their disadvantage - they have a really really hot older sister. Jag switching is way more interesting to me though. maaan, if only i had a spare 1300 bucksss
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 02 Mar 2011, 08:24
Jags definitely aren't as pretty as Jazzmasters though is the thing. I think that's their disadvantage - they have a really really hot older sister. Jag switching is way more interesting to me though. maaan, if only i had a spare 1300 bucksss

Here's an interactive one while you wait then. (http://www.webrocker.de/jaguar/cms/2007/05/12/the-interactive-jaguar/)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 02 Mar 2011, 12:29
That's a pretty damn sweet way to demonstrate the switching system on the Jag. Accurate enough.

There's a lot of neat little things to play with on that guitar. It's really hard to get a bad sound out of that instrument.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 02 Mar 2011, 17:25
jags just have too much ugly hardware on them. octagonal plastic cut-outs on the pickguard? yech.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 03:25
you might need to see a doctor as you appear to have incorrect taste in guitars.

Lets move away from offset love/hate, and get on to a man some like to call Paul Reed Smith. What do you guys think of his guitars?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 03 Mar 2011, 05:25
They seem like decent quality, expensive, overly maple-toppy guitars with humbuckers that the wrong people like.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 03 Mar 2011, 05:28
Not a fan.

A PRS is like a Gibson that spent the night in a rock tumbler.

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Post by: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 05:48
Really? Because overall quality control suggests PRS sort of...win in that area. Plus, Gibson tried to sue PRS on their singlecut model. Which doesn't make any sense seeing as a hell of a lot of other less prestigious guitar companies make singlecut guitars that look a lot closer to Les Pauls than the PRS model.

I've sort of been on them/off them. A company called Vintage in the UK do some PRS knockoffs that are very good for the money.

Humbuckers that the wrong people like? I was horrified to read a while ago that members of Fightstar put fucking EMGs in their Custom 24s. Awful.


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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Mar 2011, 05:50
jags just have too much ugly hardware on them. octagonal plastic cut-outs on the pickguard? yech.

That's metal, dude.
you might need to see a doctor as you appear to have incorrect taste in guitars.

Lets move away from offset love/hate, and get on to a man some like to call Paul Reed Smith. What do you guys think of his guitars?

He makes what appear to be super-high quality, but really douchey guitars.

I still want a Mira X, though.
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Post by: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 07:42
So you're saying Santana plays a douchey guitar?

I'm just seeing what people think of them. I go on/off the aesthetics. Smith said that he wanted to make a combination of the Les Paul and the Strat, but I'm not sure thats how I'd describe a Custom. I think its more of a Les Paul for those who don't want to get caught playing a Les Paul.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 03 Mar 2011, 07:55
So you're saying Santana plays a douchey guitar?

I'm just seeing what people think of them. I go on/off the aesthetics. Smith said that he wanted to make a combination of the Les Paul and the Strat, but I'm not sure thats how I'd describe a Custom. I think its more of a Les Paul for those who don't want to get caught playing a Les Paul.
I think some of them are really beautiful, and some of them go really overboard on the flaming/quilting of the finish. As for sound I've heard they're extremely versatile for different styles and the good build quality lends itself to playability.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 03 Mar 2011, 08:13
I think some of them are really beautiful, and some of them go really overboard on the flaming/quilting of the finish.

Right there.

 But if they're good enough for Mikael Åkerfeldt, they're good enough for me.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 03 Mar 2011, 08:53


Humbuckers that the wrong people like?  




I meant the "wrong people" like the guitars. Considering my wording the misunderstanding is only natural. Sorry about that. I played one once and it seemed nice. I'd not hesitate to buy one if I liked it and it was affordable.
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 Mar 2011, 09:02
Okay, so now Jaguars are back on my radar... Can they do twang, chime, and growl in stock form, or would they need pickup swappage, or could they never do it?

I have clearance to buy one guitar and it's going to be my last one for quite a long time, so I gotta make it count! Versatility is key.

Edit: So far I keep coming back to a Taylor SolidBody with two mini-buckers. They have a nice solderless pickguard system that would handle my versatility needs for basically forever. I also like their necks and frets.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Mar 2011, 10:56
Back to cheap pedals and Behringers a few pages back:

Um they do a Deluxe Memory Man clone for like 80 bucks, the "Vintage Time Machine". OSG seems to think they're pretty decent, do you guys have any history with them?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Mar 2011, 13:18
People are bashing Prs Guitars on looks and yet love Jags. I don't get this, I love jags, but jesus are they fuck-ugly.

Their korean Baritone silverburst model is pretty fucking awesome:
(http://www.licklibrary.com/iguitar/Images/Reviews/Lick_PRS_MikeMushokSE_RGB72.jpg)

Silverburst plus binding is always sexy though:
(http://www.stevesmusic.com/images/Dethklok-Thunderhorse-Explorer.jpg)


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Post by: Lupercal on 03 Mar 2011, 16:13
Mmm.

To be fair I don't find that many guitars horrible aesthetically. Just stuff like Mockingbirds and super pointy shit. Explorers I can deal with. Headstocks on Kramers? Sure! Dimebag Dean shaped guitars? Seen worse.

Yeah this is what I'm considering but I'm trying to figure out whether its actually okay or looks like complete shit.

(http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/64653_l.jpg)

Comes in black, quilted/flame green, and white. Demo here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bsQ4w3jGNA&feature=player_embedded)

Also depends on what Jag you're getting. I'd say they sound beautiful. John Frusciante said that it has a "super cool cheap sound", but for a guy who's used to playing late 60s Strats its not much of a comparison. I wouldn't say swap the pickups if you're getting one, reissue or older. They are great stock, to be honest. Go try one and see what you think.
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Mar 2011, 17:33
heh
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1742805143037
my best 14 seconds of an A chord...
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Post by: Cadeonehalf on 03 Mar 2011, 23:31

Silverburst plus binding is always sexy though:

I was browsing through the Rondo music site and found the AL silverburst by happenstance...can't wait until my paycheck gets in to get one.
Silverburst is the best thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 04 Mar 2011, 01:33
They seem like decent quality, expensive, overly maple-toppy guitars with humbuckers that the wrong people like.

I don't think we talk enough, sir.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Mar 2011, 05:50
Their korean Baritone silverburst model is pretty fucking awesome:

It's a signature model for the dude from Staind.

Guys my fuzz pedal showed up yesterday! It's not too bad on its own, seems to get a little icepicky with the bridge humbucker on my Tele, but with the Double Muff driving it, it's absolutely brutal. A fantastic buy for $25 if you've got a nice OD or boost behind it.
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Post by: Lupercal on 04 Mar 2011, 06:31
Nicely done. At the end of the day other people's opinions on stuff will only get you so far, and quite a lot of budget guitars and effects these days are pretty stellar. Of course this all depends on what you play and where, but glad the pedal is a thumbs up. I've never been a label snob and don't understand those people that are, some of the best guitar players simply put some wood together and due to their skill they seem 100000% cooler (see: Red Special, EVH Charvel, etc)

And now to destroy any hope of being accepted here: lulz I saw Staind when they opened for Nickelback in 2008.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Mar 2011, 09:27
Their korean Baritone silverburst model is pretty fucking awesome:

It's a signature model for the dude from Staind.



So? I don't see what that has to do it being awesome or not. Not everyone playing Les Pauls are into or associated with jazz-pop.
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Mar 2011, 09:48
Very nice!
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Mar 2011, 09:50
Shiny! I forget what you're working on, though..a boost pedal, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 05 Mar 2011, 01:39
So you're saying Santana plays a douchey guitar?

 :mrgreen:
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Post by: SSPKR on 05 Mar 2011, 19:40
Jags are cool, but I prefer Jazzmasters.  I feel like all of the electronics on Jags are a bit much and prefer the simpler layout of JMs.  Here's mine, which is Japanese.  I replaced the stock pick-ups with Lindy Fralins.

 (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u82/chicagowarmth/Fender-Jazzmaster.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Mar 2011, 23:18
Beautiful. Blocks and binding. Shame about the buzzstop though.

(I keed, I don't actually care, I just couldn't resist saying that)
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Post by: SSPKR on 06 Mar 2011, 05:53
Beautiful. Blocks and binding. Shame about the buzzstop though.

(I keed, I don't actually care, I just couldn't resist saying that)

The buzzstop is long gone!  I snapped this photo right after I got the guitar and the previous owner had put that on there.  I don't think they're necessary.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 06 Mar 2011, 10:21
Is that a homemade amp? Looks awesome.
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Post by: SSPKR on 06 Mar 2011, 10:56
Is that a homemade amp? Looks awesome.

It was made by John Lyons @ Basic Audio (same guy who made the wooden enclosure pedals I posted earlier).  It's a perfect recording amp loaded with a nice Weber speaker.
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Post by: edwinalink on 06 Mar 2011, 11:34
jags just have too much ugly hardware on them. octagonal plastic cut-outs on the pickguard? yech.
has anyone pointed out that its a hexagon yet?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 06 Mar 2011, 11:38
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhnig48xou1qd38pzo1_500.jpg)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhnieqXkQY1qd38pzo1_500.jpg)

I know you fuckers know what this is. where should i order magnets and bobbins and wire?
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Post by: Cernunnos on 06 Mar 2011, 19:50
Yeah I was thinking of using neodymium for kicks actually. I feel like I should get an assortment to experiment with, as well as several different wire gauges. I'm probably gonna use plastic sheet (cd case, maybe?) and blocks of wood for the bobbins. before that I need to buy a cheap calculator to make a counter. I tried rigging up my computer mouse to it to do it, but while I did get it working, I only have one of those at the moment and I don't want to do that with my good mouse. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Mar 2011, 11:06
Jon, I've got a spare USB mouse laying around. Hasn't had much use.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 07 Mar 2011, 20:32
Really? Because overall quality control suggests PRS sort of...win in that area.




oops, i should have said LOOK LIKE gibsons that spent the night in a rock tumbler... look like...yeah.

i have no experience with either, personally. my guitars are cheap as fuuuuuuuuuuukkkk.
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Post by: The extra letter on 07 Mar 2011, 21:30
I bought an Epiphone LP 100 today. I am loving it.

It makes me wish I had more money so that I can buy a good guitar, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ballard on 07 Mar 2011, 22:41
I sold the Les Paul Classic.

Coming soon: new MacBook Pro.

A buddy of mine is hooking me up with Logic Pro 8 and my guitarist is hooking me up with Ableton Live.

So excited.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Mar 2011, 03:09
get a towel
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/45637_144372422264213_112433198791469_251851_3886569_s.jpg)
http://on.fb.me/f53LGT
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Mar 2011, 04:25
Holy shit. Looks great in gold too.

Why do pretty things have to be so expensive...
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Post by: Melodic on 10 Mar 2011, 15:57
stop linking daylighters you fucker i only have so much time to suck dicks for guitar money
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Mar 2011, 16:51
you can sleep when you are in the HIV ward.
In other news, I just realized the nasal-y shit sound I've been getting from my Tiny Terror is because my dumbass plugged the 8ohm avatar into the 16 ohm TT output.
I just kept looking at the pod, the guitar controls, the 3 knobs on the amp scratching my head... it's been 2 or 3 practices and I've not been happy with the sound. Switched to the single coil Nitefly and wow it was really sounding like a $69 piece of crap. Then the dumb fuck-edness passed and I looked behind it to the horror that I'd plugged it into the wrong hole-i-o. (Which all of your moms complained about too.) Any chance I damaged either the cab or the head?
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Post by: The Duke on 10 Mar 2011, 20:07
you can sleep when you are in the HIV ward.

A man with round glasses came to me in a dream to tell you all that you can sleep when you're dead.  And something about sandwiches.

Then the dumb fuck-edness passed and I looked behind it to the horror that I'd plugged it into the wrong hole-i-o. (Which all of your moms complained about too.)

buuurrrrrrn

get a towel
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/45637_144372422264213_112433198791469_251851_3886569_s.jpg)
http://on.fb.me/f53LGT

Man some people just have mad boners for that finish, but I would prefer it in basically anything else.  I dig the shape, though.

anyway, now that I am done quoting the shit out of doombilly

So here's a cool thing that I tried one time - I took a hammer and a beer bottle cap and pounded it into a pick shape, and it sounds all kinds of beautiful.  On my acoustic anyway; on an electric it sticks to the pickups and makes this little *pop* sound.  Try it out.  I found it kind of interesting.
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Post by: Chad K. on 10 Mar 2011, 23:10
I've seriously become infatuated with cheap archtops.  I just bought an Epi ES-175 today and I love it.  This comes on the heels of a Joe Pass Emperor, which followed a Sheraton ii.  And, unlike when I normally horde guitars, all my Epis get played at shows.  Seriously, Epiphone may make some lousy solid body guitars, but the semis and hollowbodies are some gems.

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Post by: Patrick on 12 Mar 2011, 17:02
Dude there is a fucking reason the Beatles used Casinos so much from Rubber Soul onward

Because they RULE
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Post by: Lummer on 15 Mar 2011, 01:16
OK GUYS

Warmoth parts ordered, neck found. The Telecaster DeathLuxe is now officially a GO!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 15 Mar 2011, 02:10
IT WAS YOU. who got me aware of, and hooked on Warmoth!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 15 Mar 2011, 08:52
OK GUYS

Warmoth parts ordered, neck found. The Telecaster DeathLuxe is now officially a GO!

You did get the body routed for a strat neck I hope?

also, Specs? More BKP's?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 16 Mar 2011, 14:31
FML. Nobody wants my Jag.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 16 Mar 2011, 15:43
I'm sure they do. Hell, I do. I just have this lack of shitting money which is probably the main problem with acquiring said guitar.

How are you advertising it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Mar 2011, 07:37
FML. Nobody wants my Jag.

PUT IT ON OSG FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 17 Mar 2011, 14:16
FML. Nobody wants my Jag.

PUT IT ON OSG FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

You mean he hasn't yet?

What were you thinking, Pat? It's fucking OSG we're talking about here, those guys over there love that kind of stuff.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Mar 2011, 19:59
If it didn't cost basically all the money I have to my name I would buy the shit out of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Mar 2011, 05:47
You mean he hasn't yet?

What were you thinking, Pat? It's fucking OSG we're talking about here, those guys over there love that kind of stuff.

If you're a member of a site that deals pretty much exclusively in Jaguars and Jazzmasters, would this not be the first place to think to post your JAGUAR?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 20 Mar 2011, 01:12
Dogg you think I haven't posted it there?

Look on the FS board f00l
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Mar 2011, 07:15
I hold onto my statement. The only AVRI Jag I'm seeing in the first two pages is a sunburst/mint one.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 20 Mar 2011, 11:06
Well, shit. Guess it's time to bump.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 20 Mar 2011, 11:24
I want a Neon Purple Jazzmaster hardtail with a single Bare Knuckle Warpig and black hardware.

DAMN IT WARMOTH.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 20 Mar 2011, 15:55
Build it. That sounds awesome.

Give it a hipshot hardtail, 7 strings and 27 frets (Tuned Db to Gb, high A at 27th)  and I'd be in for one myself.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 20 Mar 2011, 15:58
I want a Neon Purple Jazzmaster hardtail with a single Bare Knuckle Warpig and black hardware.

DAMN IT WARMOTH.

That was pretty much what I was gonna go for next, minus the purple.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 20 Mar 2011, 21:48
my problem is I want 4 Warmoths.

that Jazzmaster. a hot pink 2 humbucker tele with black hardware, some kind of Iceman and a Charvel inspired Strat.

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Post by: Bearer on 20 Mar 2011, 23:02
Step one, download this blueprint:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/tele-home-depot/24265-developing-jazzmaster-body-blueprint-62jzmstd01_reva-pdf (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/tele-home-depot/24265-developing-jazzmaster-body-blueprint-62jzmstd01_reva-pdf)
Step two, acquire tools, or friend who has these tools or similar:
-band saw
-router
-drill press
Step three, buy some wood and some cheap guitar fetish hardware and go to town.  You'll end up with something hopefully less ugly then the fucker I put together on my first try:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs031.ash2/34926_403805727881_566427881_4632375_3034517_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 20 Mar 2011, 23:07
that may be ugly... but it still makes me really happy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Mar 2011, 03:47
Step one, download this blueprint:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/tele-home-depot/24265-developing-jazzmaster-body-blueprint-62jzmstd01_reva-pdf (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/tele-home-depot/24265-developing-jazzmaster-body-blueprint-62jzmstd01_reva-pdf)
Step two, acquire tools, or friend who has these tools or similar:
-band saw
-router
-drill press
Step three, buy some wood and some cheap guitar fetish hardware and go to town.  You'll end up with something hopefully less ugly then the fucker I put together on my first try:
(http://WIN.jpg)
That's a Winner!
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Post by: Lupercal on 21 Mar 2011, 08:21
Finally got that guitar finished, with two days to spare, didn't go for a new nut, just filed the current one down. BEAUTIFUL. Overall I'm happy with my first build, had to put a shim in the neck to get the angle right, but other than that not a single hiccough.
I WILL DO THIS AGAIN MANY MANY TIMES.

Pixplz

my problem is I want 4 Warmoths.

that Jazzmaster. a hot pink 2 humbucker tele with black hardware, some kind of Iceman and a Charvel inspired Strat.



my problem is I want a site in the UK that is a mirror of Warmouth.

But damn dude get that Charvel thing going, because it sounds cool. They are generally beautiful guitars, minimalist and classy.

Anyone have a spare couple of grand lying around so I can get a MusicMan?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 21 Mar 2011, 09:36
The thing was mostly a practice for the different templates I made, so the result was truly a Frankenstein monster.  Semi hollow body, routed for a strat neck, telecaster controls, a P90 in the neck, single coil middle, humbucker bridge, and a stratocaster tremolo block.  It's a shame the f-hole turned out so badly, the thing doesn't sound that  bad acoustically (the shitty pickups I got from a pawnshop on the other hand...)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Mar 2011, 11:28
The thing was mostly a practice for the different templates I made, so the result was truly a Frankenstein monster.  Semi hollow body, routed for a strat neck, telecaster controls, a P90 in the neck, single coil middle, humbucker bridge, and a stratocaster tremolo block.  It's a shame the f-hole turned out so badly, the thing doesn't sound that  bad acoustically (the shitty pickups I got from a pawnshop on the other hand...)

Yeah, the f-hole needs a little..um..less.


edit: I love OSG and MXR pedals. I got my '79 Distortion + off there on the cheap, and just bought a newer Phase 90 for $20.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 24 Mar 2011, 13:23
ok, so the Warmoth body landed today, and it is gorgeous.

But the neck I found DOES NOT FIT.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 24 Mar 2011, 18:03
ok, so the Warmoth body landed today, and it is gorgeous.

But the neck I found DOES NOT FIT.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Is the neck heel too big, or too small?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Mar 2011, 01:51
Neck heel was a bit too big. I panicked and sulked, but then I got down to some sandin' and it fits now. Final steps will be made tomorrow. Gonna be so cash.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 25 Mar 2011, 02:06
Dude, are you on the Warmoth forum?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Mar 2011, 02:49
Not yet!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Mar 2011, 05:45
My Phase 90 showed up yesterday.

I like the swirly sounds, but am totally pissed at the build quality compared to my old Distortion +. Plastic jacks, plastic shaft on the pot, plastic switch, thick gloppy paint job, huge giant PCB, smegging thick foam thing on the bottom (which I ripped off)...ugh.

Dunlop, why'd you fuck up MXR so much?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Mar 2011, 12:36
http://suhrguitars.com/artistModels/ggantique.aspx

That's what I want, but cannot afford... The good news is, they're going to come out with a GG model in their import Rasmus line at the end of summer, and for about $1k or so. It's missing the tremel-no and the blower button though. I might have to get one, if I can wait that long.

The set-net is great too, but I don't want another set-neck guitar right now.

http://suhrguitars.com/artistModels/ggsn.aspx
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Mar 2011, 13:14
I have a feeling at lest one of you might be interested in this...

Agile AB3000 baritone gtr w/ Dimarzios, $169.00
http://thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=871731

Not my sale, just passing it along.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 25 Mar 2011, 15:06
Dear gods of rock, thank you for smiling upon us.

http://www.axlguitars.com/az800.html

Played one at the music store downtown yesterday. They're selling these for $229. I cannot describe to you how much of a fucking STEAL that is.

Seriously, I plugged this thing into the AC4 they have down there and I fell in love at that very instant.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 25 Mar 2011, 15:19
Overwound P90s = Instant Awesome. That is all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 25 Mar 2011, 15:39
Dear gods of rock, thank you for smiling upon us.

http://www.axlguitars.com/az800.html

Played one at the music store downtown yesterday. They're selling these for $229. I cannot describe to you how much of a fucking STEAL that is.

Seriously, I plugged this thing into the AC4 they have down there and I fell in love at that very instant.
Wow, all 3 finishes look teh sex.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 26 Mar 2011, 00:04
The white Badwater version looks so majestic.  Are they, like, any good at all?  Because I can't even build something at ~$200, and if it is even tolerable I think I want it.  Aside from switching the plastic nut for a graphite one it seems too good to be true.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Mar 2011, 11:52
Dude honestly it plays better than every single one of my guitars
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 26 Mar 2011, 14:24
Wow. That is actually kind of sad.
Also Pelham. Blue. Kauer.
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199354_198091583558963_112433198791469_567407_2405060_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: classicT1 on 26 Mar 2011, 17:39
AXL's are a lot of tone for the money. One of the local shops in my area is a dealer; they tend to be hit or miss but the good ones are solid guitars.

Also, I'd be hard pressed to find a Kauer I didn't like! Drop dead gorgeous instruments.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 26 Mar 2011, 17:49
Wow. That is actually kind of sad.
Also Pelham. Blue. Kauer.

what'd i say, dude?
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Mar 2011, 09:50
 8-)
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Mar 2011, 08:43
FB1 zomg.
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Post by: Kwaping on 28 Mar 2011, 11:03
Speaking of Samick/Greg Bennett, I just picked up a used Ultramatic UM1 over the weekend. It's in pretty rough condition (frets a bit worn, corrosion on the bridge and tailpiece), but the previous owner did a decent job upgrading it with Wilkinson zebras and a push-pull volume to split the coils. Not bad for $200 at Guitar Center, not including the $20-off promo.

I have 30 days to return it, too. Not sure if it's a keeper yet, as it disqualifies me from getting an as-of-yet-unknown better/more expensive guitar anytime soon.

I also got a perfect-condition Traveler Speedster from TGP on the same day, also $200. Woo. :)
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Post by: Kwaping on 30 Mar 2011, 14:18
... aaaaaaaand I've killed the guitar topic. Great.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Mar 2011, 15:59
There are plenty of guitar-related forums to hang around in dude.

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 30 Mar 2011, 16:42
Nah, I liked this topic when people would just show off their shit, which sadly doesn't happen too often anymore. Also, I recently almost ordered a baritone neck for my strat (from Warmoth) but settled on using all of my money (like, all of it) on a new kit instead.
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Post by: Patrick on 30 Mar 2011, 17:34
Dude you didn't kill the thread, it sometimes goes like a week without new posts. It always comes back. It's been around since the dawn of fuckin' time, don't worry.
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Post by: sean on 30 Mar 2011, 18:36
man i remember this thread starting from when i was lurking, which is about 4 years ago. old thread is oooooooooold.

also really all the regulars have posted their shit in this thread, lurk it.
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Post by: classicT1 on 30 Mar 2011, 20:25
Dude I've been lurking this thread/the QC discussion forums for a good couple of years now, but my first posts in and I contribute to the demise of the guitar topic.

For sure going to show off some shit as soon as I get a hold of a decent camera though! A Warmoth neck for my bastardized strat, unfortunately not a baritone neck, is on its way and I will definitely be putting some pictures up once assembly is complete.
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Post by: Bearer on 30 Mar 2011, 23:42
Ahhh, yes, I remember starting this thread.  What was that first post again?

EDIT:  Since this topic has evolved into a posting place for guitars and the like, go ahead and show'em off!

Well, I finaly got a new guitar!  What kind you ask?  Why, a Fender Special Edition Koa Stratocaster of course!  It's a huge upgrade from my old Squier Strat, and it is certinly a huge improvement.  Its body is made of Alder with a Koa wood top (with 2-color sunburst), it has a rosewood fretboard, "Pearl" inlays and pick guard, a two-point floating tremolo, and some Seymour Duncan pickups all around $700!  Quite a steal.  The Unique combination of tone woods (Hawaiian Koa and Rosewood) gives it an incredible sound: It's bluesy and mellow, but also quite twangy and bright at the same time, and it has loads of tone and quite a nice sustain.  On top of all that, it's quite a beautiful guitar, observe:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0213.jpg)

More Pictures:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0212.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0211.jpg

I am quite happy with my purchase.  It's hanging on a wall mount in my room now.

Ahh man, I love that guitar.  Since getting it, I've got a push/pull switch installed that turns on the bridge pickup independant of the pickup selector.  It's like a wer-telecaster that way.  Mmmm.

Also, I think most of my damn posts have been in this thread...
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Post by: squawk on 01 Apr 2011, 00:49
today i walked into my friend's dorm room and he had this fucking gibson. it's like. an old les paul with no pickguard and only one pickup at the bridge and a weirdly rectangular headstock and solid wood, dark red finish and it is not even heavy and IT IS SO COOL I WANT IT and it's like so pretty and so old and so great and what is it? guys what is it.
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Post by: edwinalink on 01 Apr 2011, 01:32
MelodyMaker?
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Post by: squawk on 01 Apr 2011, 01:35
THOSE FUCKING THINGS! I forgot about those. So awesome.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Apr 2011, 05:48
Yeah, sounds like the Melody Maker from a few years back, which was just an unglorified LP Jr. The new Melody Makers are more authentic to the 50s-60s designs.
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Post by: Lupercal on 02 Apr 2011, 08:00
Fender Pawnshop Series - prices will likely defile name (http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/pawnshop/#)

But a Fender '51 will probably make all those people who picked up a $100 Squier a few years ago very happy.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Apr 2011, 08:25
The rumor was that they'd be $699 MAP and street for about $499. I'm not shelling out that much money for a hardtail Mustang.

Also, if the prices were lower...the '72 in Surf Green looks pretty funky. I'd play it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Apr 2011, 08:42
Fender needs to reissue the Cyclone.

fyp
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Apr 2011, 08:51
Fender needs to reissue the Coronado.

fyp

fyp

Also:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200157_210800542279090_100000474371757_822205_6239516_n.jpg)
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Post by: Christophe on 02 Apr 2011, 09:45
I would commit crimes for a Mustang Special.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Apr 2011, 11:13
Oh god those tiny frets and that thin fucking rosewood fretboard. What the fuck, fender? This is why I'm not a fan of yr products.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 02 Apr 2011, 15:37
its a veneer board dude, theyre pretty awesome.
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Post by: Bearer on 02 Apr 2011, 15:54
The key thing to think about when dealing with tonewoods isn't what tone (actually timbre) the specific wood imparts the instrument, but rather what it takes away.  When you pluck a string, a lot of the string vibrations causing the guitar's frequencies to get eaten up by the nut, bridge, body, and neck (quite literally, every little part of the guitar has a subtle, if unnoticeable effect on sound).  Dense tight-grained woods like Maple absorb less frequencies than porous woods like Mahogany, so they sound 'brighter'.  The later will absorb much more of the high-end sounds, making the instrument sound darker, more mellow.  These differences in how an electric guitar sounds are most audible with different neck types: the rosewood fretboard will absorb a lot of the higher-pitched frequencies.

Back on topic: A thinner rosewood fretboard would absorb less of the high-ends than a regular-width one would, and it suits that fucking awesome Jaguar because they are supposed to be kind of bright-sounding.


Also, in regards to fender Japan:
(http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/img/jaguar/jg_ho/jg_ho_3ts_z.jpg) (http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/jg_ho.html)
and this:
(http://www.fenderjapan.co.jp/img/jaguar/jgs/jgs_gmb_z.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Apr 2011, 17:26
A thinline Jag? Now, where is the Jazzmaster equivalent?
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Post by: Lupercal on 02 Apr 2011, 17:41
Fender needs to build some NEW guitars.

At least it wasn't HEY YOU GUYS LIKE OFFSETS HUH YEAH HERE'S SOME MORE

But a Cyclone reissue would be pretty sweet. Unfortunately the interesting guitars like the Cyclone, '51 etc just die and never come back. Yet re-hashing of the Telecaster will continue forever. Just stick with variations of Thinline and Nashville and it'll be great.

The rumor was that they'd be $699 MAP and street for about $499. I'm not shelling out that much money for a hardtail Mustang.

Also, if the prices were lower...the '72 in Surf Green looks pretty funky. I'd play it.

So...essentially Blacktop pricing? "New" and "affordable" seem to be words I'm not sure the guys at Fender really know how to use. You can pick up 69 reissues for £300-400 at the moment. But I'd agree the Tele is tasty. Just not sure I understand what the '51 is apart from a glorified Tele that will have collectors interested.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 03 Apr 2011, 12:10
Just came home with an 02 Godin SD.   

Fun guitar.  I'm enjoying it immensely. 
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Apr 2011, 13:08
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/05/timeless_timber.php

Parker made two DF524s out of some submerged birch. One piece bodies...
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Apr 2011, 08:42
Just not sure I understand what the '51 is apart from a glorified Tele that will have collectors interested.

It was a modder's dream when Squier first released them. Didn't sell that well to begin with, but now they go like hotcakes on the secondary market.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Apr 2011, 10:50
Yeah '51's are awesome, They're like the mentally-challenged older brother to my Spectrum.
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Post by: Radical AC on 04 Apr 2011, 12:27
So that 72 doesnt have a pickup selector, but instead a "blend" knob.  Like, I've never had the opportunity to try something like it, or was really aware of anything else that uses one.  But, it just seems like it could be so temperamental as to be frustrating.  Does it add much or is it just a really lazy wiring method that acts as a tone knob for two pickups?
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Apr 2011, 17:20
I like that feature on my AEX500 but it is a blend between a mini HB and piezo. Which kind of makes sense.
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Post by: Bearer on 05 Apr 2011, 11:18
So that 72 doesnt have a pickup selector, but instead a "blend" knob.  Like, I've never had the opportunity to try something like it, or was really aware of anything else that uses one.  But, it just seems like it could be so temperamental as to be frustrating.  Does it add much or is it just a really lazy wiring method that acts as a tone knob for two pickups?
my dad's old Gibson arctop had a master tone knob and a separate volume for each pickup, which is basically the same effect.  I guess a blend knob would be easier to dial in a desired tone, but I did find it frustrating not to be able to just switch between pickups.  Then again, it really does come down to preference.   There's a 3 pickup telecaster out there with a standard 3-way switch controlling the neck/bridge and an extra volume knob for the middle pickup.  Some people love it, some people hate it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Apr 2011, 11:42
So that 72 doesnt have a pickup selector, but instead a "blend" knob.  Like, I've never had the opportunity to try something like it, or was really aware of anything else that uses one.  But, it just seems like it could be so temperamental as to be frustrating.  Does it add much or is it just a really lazy wiring method that acts as a tone knob for two pickups?

I thought it was a rotary 3-way selector like some PRSes have. 3 settings, just a turny knob instead of a switch.

A store near me has an old MIJ Squier Bullet for $150 bucks. I may pick it up next weekend if I get some birthday moneez:

(http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdna-cdn.com/usercontent/gear/2820211/p1_uthtap5kt_ss.jpg)

(http://liveassets.rationalpathinc.netdna-cdn.com/usercontent/gear/2820211/p2_u1mx4gxqk_ss.jpg)
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Apr 2011, 13:36
strat body with tele headstock  :? :? :?

has there ever been a bullet that didn't suck? not one that i've played
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Apr 2011, 13:48
It's not quite Stratty. A little bit different.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Apr 2011, 13:57
strat body with tele headstock  :? :? :?

has there ever been a bullet that didn't suck? not one that i've played

FIGHT YOU
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Apr 2011, 16:45
http://www.zoybar.net/
I read about these things on Engadget. I'm kind of into the idea of modular parts for guitars, but I'm not sure if 3d printing can make anything resonant enough to not sound like complete ass.
And god are those guitars fuck ugly.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Apr 2011, 18:12
wot u think?
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/Daily/News/Orange_Amps_Launches_DIVO_Tube_Bias_Technology.aspx

except for the price I love the idea. An auto tube-biaser.
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Apr 2011, 18:47
FIGHT YOU

hey man, your bitch had attention put to it. bad, ugly, nasty attention. that doesn't make the bullet a not-bad guitar.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2011, 09:12
WHOA.

http://www.guitarnoize.com/blog/comments/musikmesse-2011-orange-dark-terror

(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/april11/orange-dark-terror-530-100.jpg)

Whoa. Scary. I want it.


Also the new Squier Matt Freeman P-bass.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2011, 09:29
Nah dude, the Hoppus bass is Jazz shaped..it just has a P-bass neck and pickup.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2011, 09:55
Maybe just looks-wise. I know my ideal bass would be P-shaped and have a normal P pickup, but the skinnier Jazz bass neck.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2011, 11:20
Also the new Squier Matt Freeman P-bass.

About that. This.

(http://www.gear4music.com/media/32927/600/preview.jpg)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 06 Apr 2011, 11:42
Isn't that just a regular black p-bass with a black pickguard?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2011, 11:47
See also: maple fretboard!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 06 Apr 2011, 12:57
Isn't that just a regular black p-bass with a black pickguard and maple fretboard?

Fixed it.




( :mrgreen:)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 07 Apr 2011, 05:37
Don't understand signature guitars. Take Simon Neil for example - he is great in Biffy but his "Signature Squier" is simply a copy of the many orange cutom shop Fenders he has, I basically never see him play it live. When he has all the money to get these beautiful custom Strats, why get an endorsement through Squier? Especially with a band that in every single album sleeve has "Biffy Clyro uses Fender guitars..." etc.

Weird.

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Apr 2011, 05:43
Kids like Biffy Clyro, and kids can't afford custom shop Fenders.

Marketing, dogg. Marketing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 07 Apr 2011, 05:48
Exactly. The band isn't big enough for a real sig model, so they get a squier. Fuckin' Avril Lavigne has a squier sig, ferchrissakes.

That said, I love my Squier so very dearly <3
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Apr 2011, 07:57
Hey Fender guys! (http://community.musiciansfriend.com/community/fender-pawn-shop)
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Apr 2011, 07:59
Pawn shop series

We were just talking about those...like..last page.

edit: DOH. Pagebreak.

I guess a pagebreak is good as any time: If you're an OSG member, there's a new thread stickied to the top of the for sale section: Shirts for sale (through Zazzle)!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Apr 2011, 08:34
Ok, I usually skip anything Fender naturally. Unless combined with the words fujigen or bass VI. Sorry.
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Post by: Radical AC on 07 Apr 2011, 11:01
The '51 has a rotary switch while the '72 has a blend knob on the listed tech specs at Fender.

I do enjoy the description of the '72 description at musicians friend, though.  "A semi-hollow Strat body with Tele neck and humbuckers? Sure why not?" Saying nothing of the guitar itself it sounds exactly like, "Did we give a shit or put any thought into this at all?  Fuck no!  We just threw darts at a Fender parts list for an affordable $800!" As soon as I get my tax refund I'm getting that AXL Backwater offset for $200.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Apr 2011, 12:25
o/
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Christophe on 07 Apr 2011, 13:12
blah blah blah fender pawnshop series too expensive FUCK ALL Y'ALL I WANT A MUSTANG SPECIAL
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 07 Apr 2011, 13:44
800 ain't shit. Not over here, anyways. I guess at least I don't live in Australia, those guys get fucked over on pricing.
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Post by: Phaedra on 07 Apr 2011, 15:31
:( *is in Australia*

shit's gotten a bit cheaper in the last couple years, but that ain't no comfort to me since a couple years ago is when I bought my gear.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 07 Apr 2011, 15:46
You could get a regular Mustang a couple years ago for that price, and I'd much rather have that.  I dunno, I mean you can get a Jaguar HH or Classic Player Jag HH for that much, and the blacktop version for $200 less.  I just don't see the appeal of the Pawn Shop model over the standard Mustang (which is, to be honest totally awesome).  Personally, I would like to see an affordable standard Tele with the 4 way switching.
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Post by: brew on 07 Apr 2011, 17:48
Is there a good resource out there with general info on basses? What styles there are, general differences, etc.? I'm thinking of buying my first one but don't know where to start.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 07 Apr 2011, 18:50
just buy a rickenbacker bass #duh #winning
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 08 Apr 2011, 01:50
If only I was rich in enough to have a rick as a first bass. I say first, a rickenbacker 4001 is all the bass you'll ever need :P
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2011, 05:44
800 ain't shit. Not over here, anyways. I guess at least I don't live in Australia, those guys get fucked over on pricing.

For a smaller-than-normal bodied, hardtail, fake-wide range Mustang? And a Squier 51 with a Fender headstock logo?

The 51s were $150 when they came out, IIRC.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 08 Apr 2011, 05:57
blah blah blah fender pawnshop series too expensive FUCK ALL Y'ALL I WANT A MUSTANG SPECIAL
laughs about the $189 '78 mustang gotten in an actual pawnshop.
/p'wn'd!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Apr 2011, 06:23
Getting a new 7-string this Monday.

 :mrgreen:
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2011, 06:26
Is there a good resource out there with general info on basses? What styles there are, general differences, etc.? I'm thinking of buying my first one but don't know where to start.

Dude, start out simple and get a P-Bass.

and speaking of, Sam, that's how they used to do it. Though the old Fenders had a little notch in the guard so you could get an allen wrench in there and adjust without taking said pickguard off.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Apr 2011, 08:19
Hey Fender/whoever else guys:

You know how vintage white witch hat knobs are mad expensive and rare?

GPR's got new ones. They're made for the newer split-shaft pots, but you can get two pair for $20 bucks. Ordering a set for sure. Dunno what I'd use them on, but I'll find something.

(http://guitarpartsresource.com/images/large/PK-0140-USAW.jpg)


edit: I have an idea. upgrade my guitar with white GFS Surf 90s, and the witch hats. Tuxedo style! Black with white trim. It's already got a mostly-white Lawrence Arms sticker anyway.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: brew on 08 Apr 2011, 09:56
Is there a good resource out there with general info on basses? What styles there are, general differences, etc.? I'm thinking of buying my first one but don't know where to start.

Dude, start out simple and get a P-Bass.

I may end up doing that, but I don't actually see myself getting a second bass down the line. So I care a bit more about this first one. Does a P-Bass have any big limitations (like how a single-coiled Strat can't really play metal, etc.)?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Apr 2011, 11:15
Getting a new 7-string this Monday.

 :mrgreen:
(http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/s/se/seven-string-guitar.jpg)

?

 :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 08 Apr 2011, 11:18
Dude what are you even

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_N-mz6YoZLbI/SgpjRYOjBlI/AAAAAAAAAEw/FlLTLO_qzow/s320/Yngwie-Malmsteen-sp01.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Apr 2011, 11:29
Well, yeah, his tone is utter shit after the first couple of albums, which are nice and low gain enough for a strat to handle..
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 08 Apr 2011, 13:05
So rotating speaker-cabs.  Holy shit, do want:
http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=677 (http://www.gilmourish.com/?p=677)

(http://www.pinktones.net/tolerance/tolerance-revolver-p26-1-mini.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: edwinalink on 08 Apr 2011, 14:53
talk smack on Gilmour all you like people... I love his tone...

largely because I have no idea how to make his tone.

beyond a good plate reverb, innate skill and decades of practice.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 08 Apr 2011, 16:20
Shit, I can get metal tones out of my danelectro.. That is what effects pedals are handy for.

I dunno man, no amount of pedal or amp overdrive can make up for cold pickups. My Dano can be loud, but it's still impossible to get that super-high-gain EMG screech out of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 08 Apr 2011, 16:52
The ONLY pedal I can really see myself being interested is a ts-808. I know. I'm boring...

Also, high gain =/=good metal tone.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: David_Dovey on 08 Apr 2011, 17:25
talk smack on Gilmour all you like people... I love his tone...

largely because I have no idea how to make his tone.

beyond a good plate reverb, innate skill and decades of practice.

It's a good thing there are people with obsessive compulsive disorder and lots of free time on their hands then (http://www.gilmourish.com/)

(that said, I get the feeling that Gilmour's one of those guys where a majority of the sound is more from the man and his fingers than any doodad or whatchamacallit, and so more or less impossible to replicate exactly)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 08 Apr 2011, 17:36
Guys, I have a solid body electric guitar and the frets are starting to poke out the sides of the neck a little bit, which means it's contracting due to lack of humidity- winter's dry, blah blah. Aside from making sure to store it in its case (i already do) what should I do to halt this short of buying a case humidifier? That doesn't really seem like a thing that's done with solid body electrics. Or should I just wait till it gets hot and humid and hope the neck expands back again? I take good care of this thing and I am a little annoyed even though it hasn't affected playability for me. Funnily enough, my acoustic hasn't had any issue with lack of humidity whatsoever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 09 Apr 2011, 08:12
What's the general opinion on Electro-Harmonix pedals? I've just invested in a delicious Blackstar HT-1 (for tiny bedroom use :P) to replace my Roland Micro-cube (possibly to be handed down to my kid brother) and so I'm going to be buying some pedals to replace the, pretty poor, effects modelling of the cube (would you like your delay ON or OFF, sir?), so my thinking is I may be buying an elctro-harmonix memory man (or in that range). Have any of you got experience in their pedals?  
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 09 Apr 2011, 09:24
Cool, would you recommend going the whole hog with the deluxe memory boy/man or will their more pocket sized and budget friendly pedals serve my purposes? If the smaller pedals are good enough for standard delay I'd rather go for that than a £100+ pedal.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Apr 2011, 09:30
I can't recommend the Deluxe Memory Boy enough. It sounds fantastic, it's an analog pedal with fucking tap tempo, and if you put just a little modulation on the delay you can get some awesome tape echo sounds out of it. Just make sure it's not the last pedal in your chain, because the only downside is that the clock noise is kind of loud.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 09 Apr 2011, 09:32
I can't afford a deluxe memory boy atm... ;_; it costs more than the amp I just bought!   :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Cernunnos on 09 Apr 2011, 09:36
I have the non-deluxe memory boy and it is also quite good. Cheaper too, i'd think.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 09 Apr 2011, 09:37
The difference between the deluxe/non-deluxe seems to be the tap tempo.
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Post by: Melodic on 09 Apr 2011, 12:58
deluxe memory man? is that the thing my pod can model? yup, it is!
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Post by: Phaedra on 09 Apr 2011, 19:01
does anyone have any experience with the electro-harmonix holy stain (http://www.bmusic.com.au/prod591.htm)?
it's got a horrible name but it seems cheap for a multi effects pedal, and I just want something to play around with in my bedroom.
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Post by: Lummer on 10 Apr 2011, 03:52
OK, so I played a show yesterday, and broke my D string on BOTH guitars I had brought.. What the fuck!?
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Apr 2011, 07:54
deluxe memory man? is that the thing my pod can model? yup, it is!
q 2 the ft
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Apr 2011, 15:04
Pods, fuck yeah!

Floorboard full of overpriced (although admittedly awesome(alliteration!)) pedals, not so much.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Apr 2011, 15:21
1. Wait/sell stuff
2. Repeat either
3. Buy Blues <custom
4. ???
5. Profit
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 10 Apr 2011, 15:42
Then earn some money. It's what I do whenever I want shit I can't afford.
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Post by: Cernunnos on 10 Apr 2011, 17:43
So a guy over at the tdpri just made his own aluminum guitar neck with a fucking hacksaw (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/2011-tdpri-tele-build-challenge/263927-vintage65-2011-tdpri-build-challenge-thread.html)


Oh yeah, the body's steel too
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Post by: Lupercal on 11 Apr 2011, 07:16
Heard good things about the Epiphone Valve Junior, around 200 euros for the 'half stack' (http://www.dv247.com/guitars/epiphone-epiphone-valve-junior-head-and-1x12-cab-bundle-deal--63590)

Trouble with waiting (for me anyway) is that I am so freaking undecided on what I want. By the time I have near the money for the thing I want, there's a new one out, or a different version of it, or something. It took me years of deliberating and saving up to upgrade from my Strat copy to a second hand MIM Strat. Its not a big decision but took me what seemed like forever.

My next big decision is an amp too, and I'm looking at that stack above or maybe the AC30 Valve Reactor.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Apr 2011, 09:47
Have you considered an AC15?
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Post by: Kwaping on 11 Apr 2011, 14:56
I'm pretty happy with my Blues Junior, and they're pretty cheap and plentiful on the used market.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 11 Apr 2011, 14:57
Heathens!
Also: I think it's time for me to buy an actual guitar amp instead of using my little Ashdown After Eight. It's great as a bass practice amp, less good for guitar.
Problem is, every single amp I want costs around 400-600 euros and I can't really spend that much :(

So guitar thread, help me out, anyone know of a great tube combo in the 15-30 watt range for 300 euros or less? (You know, apart from the Fender XD's(I wanted an epiphone blues custom so badly))

Hunt for some competitively priced Blackstars or Orange amps would be my advice.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Apr 2011, 16:21
There seem to be a lot of mod kits out there for the smaller amps like the Valve Jr and Fender's Champ 600 reissue, take a look into them.
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Post by: Lupercal on 12 Apr 2011, 01:27
Yes! Positive impact on other people and their gear!

You'll have to tell us how it is. I myself prefer the no nonsense simplicity of amps like that, probably because I have basically every effect I could ever want, for the time being.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 12 Apr 2011, 02:18
I think after a delay pedal, next on my wish list is an octaver because OH GOD, HENDRIX AND JACK WHITE TONES.
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Post by: Lupercal on 14 Apr 2011, 09:53
Pretty Jack White's tones come from the soul of a long dead Texan. "It Might Get Loud" was actually a really interesting insight into his life - he seems to detest of anything modern. Lives on a farm, drives a hella old pickup, has those "space age" guitars with about 30 switches on that came out in the 70s.
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Post by: The Duke on 14 Apr 2011, 10:10
Man, I freakin' loved It Might Get Loud.  I had a huge guitarist-boner the whole time.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Apr 2011, 10:12
Jack White plays an arsenal of Gretsches. Those things had more switches than you knew what to do with back in the late 50s.

They had a guy working for them named Jimmy Webster. Came up with crazy ideas for tone switches, and even got a few stereo guitars put into production. Mostly I think they were just stereo White Falcons.


edit: Yeah, It Might Get Loud was amazing. The best bit was from the deleted scenes where Page had a theremin and kept fucking with The Edge.

"Is that a"WEEEEEEEEOOOOOOPPPPPP!!!! "...is that a real therem"WOOOP WOOOP WOOOP WOOP! "Is that.." OOOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOP CLAAAAAANG
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Post by: JimmyJazz on 14 Apr 2011, 10:51
I think the actual point of It Might Get Loud was to force everyone to confront the atrocity that is the Edge, cause you hate him even more post-viewing
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 14 Apr 2011, 12:23
Smexy, can't wait for the May 5th when I can unleash my package of delicious doom that will be my HT-1.
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Post by: Lupercal on 14 Apr 2011, 12:39
I think the actual point of It Might Get Loud was to force everyone to confront the atrocity that is the Edge, cause you hate him even more post-viewing

Ha, yep. Annoyed me that they spent what seemed like a long time on the U2 segment. Everybody who actually PLAYS guitar knows that he is a bit of a hack really. Bill Bailey sums it up pretty well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Go2DK9VtQ).

I found the Page segment the best, but I'll be damned if Jack White's "Who says you can't build a guitar in 10 minutes?" line wasn't the wittiest part of the film.
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Post by: Lupercal on 14 Apr 2011, 14:46
Most of the hits from U2 tend to be ridiculously simple though. I guess thats what adds to the success of him as a guitar player - not a virtuoso but he can make some pretty nice sounds. Although he is one of those guitar players who uses a different guitar for every song...

Loving the look of the Valve Jr by the way - when you say you get a less imposing sound with humbuckers, do mean in a thin kind of way, or that its just generally a bit weak for a beefy sound? I'm looking to upgrade an old strat and I'm still considering whether humbuckers are a good idea or not when I could experiment with some rad single coil tones.
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 14 Apr 2011, 15:11
I'm pretty sure SG's can just boss any amp :P
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Post by: The Duke on 14 Apr 2011, 17:31
The edge isn't really a hack so much as supremely lazy in a very awesome manner.
Remember, in the early days he had to build up his layers of echo and loops manually, that takes more than a modicum of skill..

Agreed.  It seems to me that he's less concerned with playing the guitar in a way that impresses lots of people and more with using effects and such to make awesome sounds.
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Apr 2011, 20:30
Isn't that an acceptable approach to music, though? Shit, that's how Mogwai became one of my favorite acts. I'm no fan of U2 but I like the idea of making nice sounds, regardless of technical complexity.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Apr 2011, 21:32
Have you considered an AC15?

I do this every single day. And I make my decision right then and there. I just never have the money. God damn it.
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Apr 2011, 03:43
I think the actual point of It Might Get Loud was to force everyone to confront the atrocity that is the Edge, cause you hate him even more post-viewing
Yeah, it lost too much cred **(with me) when I heard Edge was involved. So I've not seen it. If you are a real fan of some of the Jack White-isms, there is a in depth article in this month's tape-op magazine about his studio and philia for anachronisms. Pretty interesting. I agree with him on some stuff re: recording, not editing together. But I'll never have the bank to record the way he does. I really want to pay some professional to record our 2nd record but it is getting up to double album length. sigh...

**edit. Not that I'm any great shakes. Also I have to admit we used to do a funky cover of 'W/ Or W/o You' just to fill time. I just went with a surfy sound avec delay. We used a bit more interesting but albeit dreadfully repetitive drum sequence and Maria brought some interest with the P bass.
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Post by: Kwaping on 15 Apr 2011, 08:23
Tuathal, your dad's guitar is so awesome! I think the headstock came out really well, and the orange stripe was perfect even before you explained the significance. He's going to cherish that forever! I don't know how I'd react if my son made me something as awesome as that, I'd probably cry.
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Post by: David_Dovey on 15 Apr 2011, 08:33
To be fair Jack White's whole schtick in that movie came across a lot better when I realised how non-serious about it he was. You guys do realise that he doesn't actually live like that, right? He was playing a character for the benefit of that particular project, just like he does with everything else he does.
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 Apr 2011, 12:26
Knowing very little about Jack White apart from his work on Icky Thump and Horehound, everything in that film seemed bona fide to me. Apart from the bit where his son is dressed exactly like him.
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Post by: Lupercal on 17 Apr 2011, 10:16
Your comments and mostly  your  :psyduck: have pretty much sold me on getting the Valve Jr. Taking my own advice through someone else is weird. I might find a nicer cab, but I literally have no idea on what cabs do to make your sound any different.

But Behringer aren't terrible, at least the casing is better than the Danelectro pedals. Got my brother a Behringer fuzz pedal and a 10W amp for his bass and it seems fine, nothing fancy but he's still in the practising in the bedroom stage.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Apr 2011, 08:44
Okay guys.. Can we talk about how damn cool the new Gibson Melody Maker series is?
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Post by: Ctharlhie94 on 18 Apr 2011, 10:08
Sorry, never been a fan of melody makers. The headstock looks silly imo, and single coils on a Gibson? To me it seems like an unnecessary guitar what with the Les Paul jr. :/
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Post by: Lupercal on 18 Apr 2011, 10:14
Okay guys.. Can we talk about how damn cool the new Gibson Melody Maker series is?

Not really because I saw the Jonas Brother's Melody Maker and disliked Gibson even more (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Melody-Maker/Gibson-USA/Jonas-Brothers-Melody-Maker.aspx).

And have to agree that the Melody Maker seems null when looking at the Les Paul Jr. But I've never played one, so that might be the huge thing I'm missing with the guitar.

Edit: The actual Melody Maker looks nice though, and a good deal for $700 (again, I guess depending on playability)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 18 Apr 2011, 10:21
I really have no problems with a Jonas Bro's Sig. They're certainly big enough to warrant cashing in on.
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Post by: Lupercal on 18 Apr 2011, 10:25
To be fair everyone who wants one has a signature series already. Ebony fretboard is a thumbs up in my book, but maaaan I can't get on board with that.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Apr 2011, 11:12
Nononononono you guys; The NEW Melody Makers!!

SG's, Flying V's, Explorers and LP's with single humbuckers and Maple bodies! YAaaaaay!
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Apr 2011, 11:22
Nononononono you guys; The NEW Melody Makers!!

SG's, Flying V's, Explorers and LP's with single humbuckers and Maple bodies! YAaaaaay!

Link? Not seeing this anywhere.

edit: Whoa nevermind. I'd be hell of interested in the SG. Especially at the $539 MF is advertising them for.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/8/4/868484.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Apr 2011, 13:42
After all their QC issues and general bone-headedness, I'm pretty anti-Gibson myself. However, those guitars are pretty awesome. I'm becoming a fan of elegance through simplicity.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Apr 2011, 13:55
I am for the most part all about sheer simplicity.

My dream Jazzmaster would probably be a hardtail, and wouldn't have the rhythm circuit.
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Post by: The Duke on 18 Apr 2011, 14:27
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Gibson-USA.aspx?ProductGroup=Melody-Maker-Series

that blue SG man

daaaaang
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Post by: Melodic on 18 Apr 2011, 20:24
Shit guys, help me be responsible.

I've been saving my pennies to buy some serious guitar kit for quite some time, and I finally have enough to buy something special. I've been playing guitar for a year and a half, but all of it's been in my bedroom behind a Dano and (recently) a Pod 3. I've got a few options:

A) buy an SG Standard. I've been wanting this guitar since I started playing, and I can order one from an independent local shop for $1100CDN.
B) buy a real amplifier. Outside of my Pod, I don't have a lot of experience with proper amps, so I don't really know what I want/what I can afford, but I know this is a step I've got to take some time.
C) save my fucking pennies! Who knows, maybe I can afford ordering a Kauer in 6 months' time, or invest this money in the stock market and become a millionaire. Then I can buy all the guitar kit I'd ever need!

Inform me, guitar thread, what I should do, as I am in need of some solid advice.
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Apr 2011, 21:08
If you buy new, make sure it's something you're going to keep forever. Otherwise, you'll take a bath on resale. Otherwise, my advice is to buy anything you want used. If you are smart about it and get a good deal, you can always sell it later for near what you paid, or possibly more. It's like a playable bank account. (Your mileage may vary, etc etc.) That way, you can scratch your itch right now while still saving up for something even better in the future.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Apr 2011, 23:45
I went into the Dublin, CA Best Buy to check out the brand new geetars they have over there. Picked up the most expensive Les Paul I could find. Tobacco burst, unchambered body, played it through a Marshall Haze 40 and cranked it to fuck. John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers most certainly ensued, and I fell in love with a guitar I will never, ever be able to afford.

Oh, GAS, I will never love you.
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Post by: Bearer on 19 Apr 2011, 07:04
never owned one myself but i've haerd Gibson quality control is suspect these days

i'd look for a great used amp and stick with the dano, or meet halfway

My 2006 Firebird VII is sturdy as a rock, and just about as heavy as one too.  I need to adjust the truss-rod though, the changing weather is getting to it a bit...
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Apr 2011, 12:15
Grumble. I watched Hail! Hail! Rock & Roll! last night, and all the Chuck Berry is making me want something 335 shaped.

(http://www.guitarfetish.com/assets/images/products/guitars/900MG_b.jpg)

Maybe? But sometimes GFS quality is a bit iffy.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/2/5/230625.jpg)

Poo brown and stripped down? Sure!

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/6/8/8/824688.jpg)

I've played the flat-top version which kinda looks like a Dano/Ric hybrid and liked it.

(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/9/5/2/645952.jpg)

Wrong shape, but I'm a Tele whoooooooore.



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Post by: The Duke on 21 Apr 2011, 13:05
Grumble. I watched Hail! Hail! Rock & Roll! last night, and all the Chuck Berry is making me want something 335 shaped.
<snip>

Another movie that I absolutely loved.
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Post by: Chad K. on 21 Apr 2011, 13:21
That Xaviere is gorgeous.  For 335s I have an Epi Sheraton II and Hagstrom Viking, which are both dearly loved.  I recommend both.
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Post by: Melodic on 21 Apr 2011, 21:30
Hey Patrick, you ever get any terrible tuning problems with your Bullet? I carted mine out of storage yesterday, took the entire thing apart and reassembled it in preparation for sanding and painting, but it just won't stay in tune. Not really sure where the problem lies -- I can't get the intonation at the bridge right either, so that's my first thought. Since I bought the thing for $20, I don't really wanna pay more than that fixing the problem. If I can't get it to play nice, whatever, I'll toss the whole thing or use it for parts.
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Post by: Chad K. on 22 Apr 2011, 00:15
Just went to guitar center to try out an e-bow. (I know, I know, but gc was the only place that had one, and I tried four independent music stores).  First off, that thing is amazing.  It's a little hard to get the hang of at first, but after the initial hump it becomes a lot of fun to play.

Second, at least the gc I went to had a one day only sale starting tomorrow on Fender's 25r for $75.  I keep my amp at my band's practice space, so I needed a small amp that was apartment friendly.  I picked this one up because they accidentally put the stickers up a day early.  For $75 this thing smokes.  It's obviously solid state given the price range, but the clean is gorgeous and it has an actual spring reverb.  The distortion sucks, (see again solid state) but I only use a touch of gain, so it's great for me. If you're in the States, and have been looking for a good little beginner's amp or a nice utility amp, this one comes highly recommended at the price point. 
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Apr 2011, 05:36
Hey Patrick, you ever get any terrible tuning problems with your Bullet?

Back before I demolished the thing, it used to stay pretty well in tune. The G was a little temperamental, but that's the same as on every guitar I've ever owned.

If nut grease doesn't solve the problem, you could always try new tuners. That bridge is really trash, though, there's really no way to make that part of it not completely blow ass. Unless you maybe swapped it for a Tele bridge somehow, or drilled holes into yr b0d for string ferrules.

Idunno I haven't played the damn thing in hella long, it needs a nut and a new bridge pickup because the nut got sacrificed to go into the Jag when hers broke and the pup is hella microphonic and SHITTYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Apr 2011, 11:24
Oh thank crap that didn't make an sense to someone else
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Apr 2011, 11:25
Maybe he just wants to carve a little cavity for the ebow so he has somewhere easily-accessible to keep it when he's not using it
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Apr 2011, 11:38
Or maybe have a rout underneath the strings (perhaps next to the pickups) where the Ebow can sit in a groove so that it is always at an effective distance from the strings? Manipulate a lever or some shit that controls the location of the Ebow itself, which would determine what string is being played by it. It'd be complex and might be a little clunky, but then again, so are Hipshot string benders.

I dunno why y'all seem so quick to hate on the idea...
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Post by: David_Dovey on 24 Apr 2011, 12:47
I dunno why y'all seem so quick to hate on the idea...

Wasn't hating Bro Szyslak, just had literally no idea what he meant.
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Post by: Bearer on 24 Apr 2011, 21:09
Kind of like the moog guitar?

http://youtu.be/b3SsYQrgcyA

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Post by: Kwaping on 25 Apr 2011, 11:27
Saturday was NGD for me! Picked up a new (ugh) Road Worn Player strat in 2tsb. I tried to not buy it - even left the store twice without it. But I went back a third time and walked out with it. The neck feel was just amazing, like the smoothest unfinished wood you can imagine. Totally addictive. And, I'd been searching for a Strat for a while. And, it has three Texas Specials, which I happen to be a big fan of (I know they're a love/hate thing). And they sold it to me for $125 less than Guitar Center. So yeah, had to buy it.

I haven't uploaded any pics yet, but it's identical to the one on the Fender site.

http://www.fender.com/products/roadworn/models.php?prodNo=0131062
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2011, 12:10
The necks on the Roadworn Strats are unreal feeling. If only they didn't look so douchey and pre-reliced.
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Post by: Melodic on 25 Apr 2011, 13:13
I ordered an SG Standard! I'm proud of myself.
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Post by: Lupercal on 25 Apr 2011, 13:50
I ordered an SG Standard! I'm proud of myself.

Man, I've moved back home from uni for about a month and I'm listening to all my AC/DC albums again, and if nothing else, Angus looks freaking cool with that guitar. Also is a tone beast! I'm not really a fan of Gibson, but I think the SG and Explorer have always been guitars I'd never say no to.

Tell me it was worn brown...
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Post by: Kwaping on 25 Apr 2011, 15:50
The necks on the Roadworn Strats are unreal feeling. If only they didn't look so douchey and pre-reliced.

Check out the new Player models, now with 100% less douche! Believe me, I hate brand-new relic guitars as much as anyone.

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af209/kwaping/2011%20Fender%20Road%20Worn%20Player%20Strat/2011-04-24_11-27-22_850.jpg)

More pics: http://s1008.photobucket.com/albums/af209/kwaping/2011%20Fender%20Road%20Worn%20Player%20Strat/
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Apr 2011, 15:51
Yeah, the player series is pretty cool. I do have a semi for the HS cherry red Telecaster.
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Post by: Melodic on 25 Apr 2011, 19:33
Man, I've moved back home from uni for about a month and I'm listening to all my AC/DC albums again, and if nothing else, Angus looks freaking cool with that guitar. Also is a tone beast! I'm not really a fan of Gibson, but I think the SG and Explorer have always been guitars I'd never say no to.

Tell me it was worn brown...

Nah, this is a new cherry Standard. Played several, none with enough quality issues to warrant me holding out any longer. Have a deal with the guys I'm ordering from that I get to play the shit out of it before committing, so I'm pretty excited.
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Post by: doombilly on 01 May 2011, 14:52
Kind of a cool concept
http://saguaroguitars.com/about.html
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Post by: Lummer on 01 May 2011, 15:02
I can't decide if recording with Amplitube sounds shitty in the best possible way, or just shitty full stop.

http://soundcloud.com/doktorlummer/riffshexis/s-1YBOO
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Post by: doombilly on 01 May 2011, 15:50
It was great until halfway through when you could almost discern the guitar from the white noise.  :laugh:
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Post by: doombilly on 01 May 2011, 18:29
kinda pricey tho. still, I love slim guitars and I cannot lie.
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Post by: Lummer on 02 May 2011, 00:00
It was great until halfway through when you could almost discern the guitar from the white noise.  :laugh:

Exactly. Needs moar distortion then.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 May 2011, 10:42
(http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/4/6/7/856467.jpg)

Okay, a short-scaled Jag bass for $170 new? I may actually order one in a few weeks.
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Post by: Melodic on 02 May 2011, 11:38
tuathal: yes
valley_parade: nooooooo! short-scale basses are suck
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 May 2011, 12:48
Seriously. Even being a big dude with big hands, 34" scale basses feel weird to me, having a normal Fender-length guitar and also a 24" scale one.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 May 2011, 13:28
Man, you guys are wimps, I'm tiny and I can easily handle a 37" scale bass. Around 40" is when I get kind of fucked though. Doesn't stop me from gassing for an upright (44" scale).
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Post by: doombilly on 02 May 2011, 17:09
tuathal: yes
valley_parade: nooooooo! short-scale basses are suck
Except for taking them rectally. Otherwise he's right.
Here's your short scale bass.
(http://www.musicwithease.com/ukulele-2.gif)
jk, it is all good as the kids said at some point in time.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 May 2011, 21:26
My best friend is selling his Hofner 500/1, the '62 reissue. It's got a fairly short scale by comparison with other basses I've played. Thing is sick as fuck, only reason he's selling it is 'cause the neck's too thin for his huge hands. Oh and because it's worth a lot and he's broke.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 May 2011, 09:34
Hardest instrument for me physically is the soprano ukulele. I own one that I tune in fourths.
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Post by: The Duke on 03 May 2011, 10:13
I can only play up to a certain point on mandolins, but my fingers aren't even that big.  Those frets get tiny, man.
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Post by: Lummer on 04 May 2011, 00:58
Btw..

Other guitarist in my band got kicked out recently. That sucks, because I really like the guy, but to be fair his playing was not up to par.

That said: HELLOOOOOO Multi-amp setup and looper pedal! Seriously, our next three gigs are gonna be with me on 3 fucking halfstacks. YESSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 May 2011, 06:24
Dude. Are you trying to break ears?

Uh oh, disposable income and GAS. I might be getting a black on black 2000 Jagmaster (with the full 25.5" neck). If I do, I'm getting a custom guard made, throwing in white Duo-Sonic pickups, and those white witch hats I posted a few pages back. Sort of a nod to ADH's third "Jazzstang", but with a Strat trem:

(http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/andrewlovesgrunge/IMG_3179.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 04 May 2011, 10:33
Break ears, loosen bowels, tear down buildings, yes.. Yes I am.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 May 2011, 11:57
Put half down on the Jagmaster. Next half when I get paid next week.

Also ordered the white witch hats. AW YEE.

This be what I'm getting, pre-mods of course:

(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/bsp_1984/2011-05-03_20-09-35_126.jpg)
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Post by: Melodic on 04 May 2011, 17:08
those hats are way sexier than what you want to put on it
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 04 May 2011, 20:28
Guys, I'm pondering buying myself a bass as a graduation present to myself since I can't justify owning a 5th guitar but want something shiny. Whats a decent bass in the $400-$500 range? Also if anyone's got recommendations for a reasonably priced bass amp that would be awesome.
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Post by: Lupercal on 05 May 2011, 00:44
Well, I'd obviously immediately push you down the road of either Fender Standard Jazz/P bass, but there is also the Squier Vintage Modified Jazz/P basses which are supposedly hot shit. You can't really go wrong with a Jazz bass.

But, from first hand experience Aria have nice basses. Nice thin necks that makes an easier transition from guitar to bass, in my opinion. The IGB-35 stands in around $400.

In the same vein theres the Yamaha BB424, which are very nice, well built basses. Again, they're hitting about $400, but they sound fantastic.

My very limited knowledge of bass knowledge for you there! You could always go to Rondo and pick up a Violin Bass for hardly anything and be the envy of any McCartney fans you have as friends/bandmates.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 May 2011, 05:59
those hats are way sexier than what you want to put on it

WHITE WITCH HATS. Way old-school, way cooler than normal Tele knobs.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 May 2011, 07:02
Yeah Sam, I'm still planning on getting the SS Jag bass this summer.

Just waiting for my tax return to rear its $650 head into my bank account.


edit:
boneykingdudeguy, I'll second the Classic Vibes. The neck on the '50s P-Bass seemed to fit my hand perfectly when I tried it out in a store.
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Post by: celticgeek on 05 May 2011, 07:27
I went out yesterday to fondle classical guitars.  I do this every now and then, but I seldom find anything since mostly the dealers have "beginner" guitars, which are no better than what I am playing now.  However, I ran across this beauty while I was out.  GAS immediately seized my heart, my soul, my mind, and my wallet, and I wound up buying it.

It's a Kremona (http://www.kremona.com/) Orpheus Valley Fiesta FC Classical Guitar (http://www.kremona.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45&Itemid=55&lang=en)

Looks pretty, sounds pretty, and plays really well. 

(http://www.celticgeek.com/images/Kremona1.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 05 May 2011, 09:02
Congrats on the nice classical purchase! I love/hate unexpected NGDs. :)

Speaking of basses, have you guys seen the new Reverend bass line (http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars.html)?
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Post by: celticgeek on 05 May 2011, 09:16
So do I.

However, with regard to your signature, I fully expect this guitar to VASTLY improve my playing ability.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 May 2011, 10:47
Sweet. Getting Nik from Rocket-Tone Guitars to make the custom pickguard for me. A little less than what Pickguardian or Terrapin or the like would want.

Now to track down some single-coils.
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Post by: Lupercal on 05 May 2011, 11:57
"Hey man, check out my new Precision bass!"

"Pssh, that's nothing - kneel before my DECISION bass!"

They are pretty sweet looking though, if you like your basses offset-but-not-necessarily-in-a-good-way
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 May 2011, 12:05
I liked "Thundergun" as a name.

Reverend makes some bad ass stuff, pretty sure the basses are no different.
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Post by: Bearer on 05 May 2011, 12:54
How much are you looking to spend on single coils?  By all means, I hear Bill Lawrence makes some of the best.  The man pioneered electric pickups, but was largely written out of history.  Designed a bunch of Gibson and Fender's original pickups.
http://www.billlawrence.com/ (http://www.billlawrence.com/)

EDIT: Pickups are here, first link is his bio: http://wildepickups.com/ (http://wildepickups.com/)
plus video:http://youtu.be/Ta0GmXPnGWk (http://youtu.be/Ta0GmXPnGWk)
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Post by: David_Dovey on 05 May 2011, 15:16
Speaking of basses, have you guys seen the new Reverend bass line (http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars.html)?

Holy shit they're like Eastwoods that don't blow
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 May 2011, 05:43
How much are you looking to spend on single coils?  By all means, I hear Bill Lawrence makes some of the best.  The man pioneered electric pickups, but was largely written out of history.  Designed a bunch of Gibson and Fender's original pickups.
http://www.billlawrence.com/ (http://www.billlawrence.com/)

EDIT: Pickups are here, first link is his bio: http://wildepickups.com/ (http://wildepickups.com/)
plus video:http://youtu.be/Ta0GmXPnGWk (http://youtu.be/Ta0GmXPnGWk)

I may look into that for a bridge. I'm likely going to get the neck pup from GPR..they've got American Standard Strat neck pickups on sale for like $20.

Edit: switch those around, reading is not my best skill (actually it usually is). Fender bridge pup, undecided for neck.

Btw guys, quick poll: I was originally going to get another black pickguard made, but now I'm leaning towards mint, with the white knobs and pickup covers. WHAT SAY YE.
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Post by: Kwaping on 06 May 2011, 09:04
I vote tortoise.
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Post by: Lupercal on 06 May 2011, 09:08
I vote tortoise.

Analysis from the Institute of Guitar Aesthetics (IGA) reports that black is the new tortoise shell. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 May 2011, 09:19
I vote tortoise.

Vetoed. I'm getting the material from GFS and their tort looks kinda shitty.


Note: there are not many times I go against tort, but this is one.
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Post by: Kwaping on 06 May 2011, 11:03
That's too bad. What are all the choices? Maybe try something crazy?
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Post by: David_Dovey on 06 May 2011, 14:00
Go with yr gut, man. Mint is the obvious winner.
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Post by: The Duke on 06 May 2011, 14:47
 I personally dislike mint, but yeah it is basically up to you.  What's the finish of the guitar?
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 May 2011, 08:41
I personally dislike mint, but yeah it is basically up to you.  What's the finish of the guitar?

"Montego black", iirc. From the pics I've seen, it's a bit like a metallic black. Little sparkle to it.

I'm debating going matching headstock at some point. It'd look pretty flash, especially if I can pick up a '64ish Fender decal..."transition" era or whatever.
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Post by: The Duke on 09 May 2011, 13:55
Do a red pickguard!  That would look cool, or at least it does in my mind.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 May 2011, 11:53
NO. It's my guitar, it's getting a mint guard. Go buy your own damn Jagmasters.

I've started the "mods" today, sort of. I gave the white witch hats a nice coffee bath to yellow them up a little. It came out better than I imagined it would. Also, the guitar itself was shipped out today. Will order the MINT when I get the guitar.
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Post by: Melodic on 10 May 2011, 15:13
oh man oh man oh man my sg showed up! i am in lub, gonna lub me this guitar a whole bunch
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 May 2011, 07:11
Moar updates: UPS says guitar will be here today.

Found pickups through OSG. Getting a GFS "vintage stagger" neck pup, and a Squier Strat for the bridge. Total cost: $16.

Other parts still needed: Pickguard material, matching trem backplate (getting from GFS along with a soldering iron), Mustang pickup covers.
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Post by: sean on 12 May 2011, 18:03
GAH WHY ARE YOU SELLING THAT WHILE I AM BROKE
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Post by: Lupercal on 13 May 2011, 03:39
valley_parade, gonna steal your mint on black idea. Going to get me a P-Bass of some description this summer and change it up a bit, pickguard being one element that will definitely get minted.
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 May 2011, 05:52
It's a good look. While I need to someday get a black and tort proper Jazzmaster, I like the mint idea.


Mod #1: white witch hats!
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/jm.jpg)
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 May 2011, 13:29
To help with the fact that revision is happening at the moment and I really want to play guitar, just got one of these (http://www.dv247.com/guitars/vox-amplug-ac30-guitar-headphone-amp--47608)

Didn't even know that headphone amps existed, so I think this is something that I'm going to enjoy using, especially as I still have a year of uni left. Should come here in a few days!

BTW - regarding amps - I know we've been over this a lot already, but I'm trying to decide whether a combo amp or a half-stack is the way to go. If a half stack is the way to go, are smaller heads (Valve Jr, Vox AC4) good for volume? The "Little Night Train" by Vox looks pretty good - but I also like the looks of the Vox AC15VR. Budget is cheap, I'm a student but want something ballsy for possible gigs next year. £200-300 budget I guess.

I like Vox.
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 May 2011, 13:38
mid-70s ampeg v4-b acquired
as soon as my Rat style-but-optimized-for-bass pedal comes in i'm done buying shit. unless i get a job. then i'm copping a 1x15.

I can't say I've ever heard anything but awesome about those old Ampegs. Good buy, ol' bean.
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Post by: Radical AC on 16 May 2011, 16:27
It doesn't really take much power with a tube to get it loud.  My Hot Rod DeVille 410 sounds fairly amazing at any volume I play it at, but live I keep it at around 3.  One gig they had a problem with the soundboard or something... anyway we had to set the amps at what we guessed would need to be loud enough for the audience.  I settled on 4 (later heard it was great for the audience).  The damn thing goes up to TWELVE and I can't imagine ever having to go close to that unless the PA craps out in a large auditorium or something.  Combos are for sure cheaper, and I think a head + cabs offers you both versatility and I hear longer tube life.

Also, I've unfortunately been looking longingly at boutique guitars.  I really want a Fano RB6 or PX6.  After I get that AXL I've decided on I really need to finish my pedal board, multi-amp setup, and electronic peripherals putting any cool guitar purchases at least a year out.
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Post by: Lummer on 17 May 2011, 03:09
Wow, all this talk of "loud" makes me feel like some sort of sonic terrorist/maximalist douche.. The last three gigs I played, I went out through an ENGL Ritchie Blackmore sig head with two 412's, AND a Laney GH50L through a single 412.
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Post by: Lupercal on 17 May 2011, 09:41
The valve Junior gets REALLY damn loud with a twelve inch cab. With my eight inch speaker it distorts rather fast when played by someone with hammers for hands, but is otherwise fine and can go very loud relatively cleanly. If you want distortion at lower volumes, an overdrive pedal (The BOSS Blues Driver is really great) does wonders.
As for the Vox AC4, I've got a friend who uses one for small gigs, but it doesn't seem to be as easy to keep clean as my head does at higher volumes, even when it's being put through larger speakers.

As for things needing to be ballsy for gigs, just mic your amp up man, it's probably cheapest!

This is the thing - I'm looking at 2x12 cabs and smaller heads. I'm not fussed about having a whole freaking EQ, built in effects and all that because I have a massive multi effects pedal at the moment anyway. I might need to add separate modulation pedals in at some point though.

Wow, all this talk of "loud" makes me feel like some sort of sonic terrorist/maximalist douche.. The last three gigs I played, I went out through an ENGL Ritchie Blackmore sig head with two 412's, AND a Laney GH50L through a single 412.

Well, from the looks of your gear and sound of your music, I'd like to think that if I saw a flyer for your band it'd say something like "Putting the DOOM in Doom metal" or whatever.

Richie Blackmore still has signature stuff? Was the overpriced Strat not enough?
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Post by: Patrick on 19 May 2011, 06:04
I had a great weekend involving guitars. Three days ago, my friend and I recorded his buddy's punk band. Said buddy is lending us his Telecaster for the summer, and I'm probably going to wind up with it for the majority of that time. See also: his valvestate Marshall combo.

Yesterday my friend got new strings for his Jag, which I restrung and set up for him. He's really happy with how it turned out, the intonation's perfect for the alternate tuning he uses (he's never had that before, lols). I also restrung his acoustic with the same alternate tuning, using string gauges I'd hand picked with a vague idea of what I was doing. Turned out perfect, hell yeah. Then I continued on my roll and did a better setup job on my hollowbody. I hadn't noticed 'til it was done just how desperately it needed doing. It's perfect now, fucking thing feels like a new guitar.

Also yesterday, I went to Subway Guitars in Berkeley for the first time. I swear it's like that shop was specifically made for me to stain the floor with my ejaculate, to put it colorfully. Yelp said that the people there might be assholes, but my friend and I had a great time shooting the breeze with the employees and patrons both. They were incredibly helpful and knowledgeable, and this also made for great conversation. My visit was really fulfilling, and I plan to repeat it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 May 2011, 06:22
Huh, who thought they were assholes?

I remember Emilio had me call them once to ask about something, and they were beyond nice/helpful.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 May 2011, 06:58
I figured the folks who didn't like them did it so wrong that they couldn't possibly have known they were fucking up, let alone for them to have known to what extent they were doing it wrong (how many times have you seen that happen, in guitar stores especially?). Because they were nice as fuck and super friendly. They even had a book in stock called 'Get Stoned And Read This Book,' $5, which my homie bought and which we did.
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Post by: Melodic on 23 May 2011, 16:24
So, I want to buy some right-angle adapters for my guitar cables (partly because I don't wanna shell out for new cables and partly because I love the jump-rope corded cables I have now). There's about a trillion different brands and adapters on the market and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with some of them?
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Post by: Lummer on 24 May 2011, 00:11
Well, from the looks of your gear and sound of your music, I'd like to think that if I saw a flyer for your band it'd say something like "Putting the DOOM in Doom metal" or whatever.

Richie Blackmore still has signature stuff? Was the overpriced Strat not enough?


Richie Blackmore is still a "name", so yeah. His signature amp has been in production for ages now. Admittedly, it is a great metal amp.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 May 2011, 14:52
Huh, weird looking new Eastwoods:

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/eastwood-airline-bighorn-electric-guitar-red-sunburst-green.jpg)

They're like $400...the red one's kinda appealing to me.
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Post by: The Duke on 24 May 2011, 16:12
Those are actually all pretty cool.  Normally I don't really go for weird-shaped guitars, but those are not bad.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 24 May 2011, 16:24
Airlines have always been weird-looking.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 May 2011, 00:14
Man, if only Eastwoods had any kind of value for money going on. Too bad they're terribly overpriced for what they are.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 May 2011, 07:06
So what do youse guys know about cheap/decent nylon-string guitars?

I've been on a big bossa nova kick lately, and playing with an electric solid-body just isn't cutting it for me. I need the troo brasilero tone for days!
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Post by: celticgeek on 25 May 2011, 08:03
How cheap?  I recently bought a Kremona Orpheus Valley Model FC (http://www.kremona.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45&Itemid=55&lang=en) which retails for about $800 US, and I love it.  Nice tone, easy to play, just a great guitar.  
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 May 2011, 11:49
Definitely less than $800. I don't think all the guitars I've owned in my life add up to $800.

Like...the $150-250 range. It's pretty much the "beginner" range for nylon strings, but I am a beginner with this sort of music/guitar. What's really appealing to me, especially because right now I don't have a mic for recording, is this (http://www.ibanez.com/AcousticGuitars/model-GA5TCE).
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Post by: Regress on 26 May 2011, 20:06
I did that entire music performance thing for college, and played a entry level Yamaha classical for the first two years. It's certainly not amazing, but their 200 dollar model has a spruce top, and will sound great. In fact I still use it when performing in clubs and bars where perfect sound quality doesn't matter.

This is pretty much it. (http://www.samash.com/p/Yamaha_CG101A%20Nylon%20String%20Classical%20Guitar_-49974323)

Quick addendum, because I'm not sure what you plan do with the nylon string. But if you are planning to learn classical guitar than an entry level Yamaha or equivalent really would be better than the more expensive options.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 May 2011, 17:00
dear guitar thread
http://youtu.be/aL5AI8TqRaw

more demos here:
http://soundcloud.com/illicitizen-1/sets/demos/

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Post by: Lummer on 08 Jun 2011, 00:54
Reverse Jazzmaster Cabronita? Yes please:

http://twitpic.com/557j8c/full  :mrgreen:
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Post by: valley_parade on 09 Jun 2011, 06:38
What are you using for a body shape?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Jun 2011, 08:00
And you're back, Dano Pro GAS.

=(
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2011, 02:14
Happy birthday, Les Paul.

Well, rather, happy birthday yesterday, Les Paul. But still.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 10 Jun 2011, 03:30
As long as you played Happy Birthday on Google, it counts.
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2011, 12:09
No, but if you play the leftmost six strings as a chord (played in 8th notes) and then do the same with the rightmost 4, you basically are playing one of my band's songs.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Jun 2011, 12:28
And you're back, Dano Pro GAS.

=(
Yeah, pity they're so much more expensive than my 59DC or I'd have bought one myself.

hmm maybe try Marine plywood? http://marine-plywood.us
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Post by: Lupercal on 12 Jun 2011, 13:59
As long as you played Happy Birthday on Google, it counts.
Why did I not think of that?

Because now exams are over I have way too much time on my hands! WOO

Read a really interesting article in this month's Guitarist talking about 50th Anniversary of the SG and how Les Paul was all like "gonna get stabbed on those horns, take my name off it". Apparently it was drafted in as the replacement for the LP.
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2011, 14:10
The reason it's called the SG is because SG stands for "Solid Guitar." Les Paul wanted his name taken off it because he took one look at the thing and said he didn't want his name on something so flimsy-looking.

He turned out to be right, since the neck joints on those things were notorious for snapping in a strong breeze (hyperbole!), so he got to keep his name on a guitar that was more adherent to the original design specs, and Gibson got a guitar that turned out to be another huge success for them, and they even redesigned the neck joint so that it was stronger. Hence the SG as we know it today.
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Post by: Bearer on 12 Jun 2011, 15:49
But that said, by all accounts, the headstock design Gibson still uses is flimsy as hell.  No reason why they couldn't add a little extra wood on the angle joint to strengthen it, or maybe run a couple of short aluminum rods through the headstock.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2011, 16:01
Bearer, couldn't agree more. It's not like it's a problem that they don't know about, either, I bitched at them when mine broke and I'm sure they've heard it a million times. They clearly just don't give a fuck though. They're so damned famous that they can afford not to, even despite snubbing their customers when they come with warranty repair/replacement requests.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 12 Jun 2011, 16:23
Haven't had a problem with my Standard yet, although I definitely agree I'm afraid to go overboard on the neck bending.
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jun 2011, 08:40
The reason it's called the SG is because SG stands for "Solid Guitar." Les Paul wanted his name taken off it because he took one look at the thing and said he didn't want his name on something so flimsy-looking.
That and if he kept the endorsement deal with Gibson, Mary Ford would get a mint out of the divorce.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jun 2011, 12:37
Guitar thread: question.

I'm going cross country on a bus with a couple of my guitars. One's a P-Bass, the other's my Fender acoustic. The bass I'm not as worried about, the fucker's solid as hell and can take a beating. The acoustic I'm more worried about because last time I had to do something like this, the neck broke (even in a hard case). So given that I HAVE to take a bus and I HAVE to take my guitar, what can I do to prevent further injury?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jun 2011, 12:39
Get a good case for it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 13 Jun 2011, 12:57
I do have a really solid case for it, though. I was just wondering if any more could be done. Buses aren't exactly kind to instruments...
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Jun 2011, 16:02
Buy a seat for it? Seriously, might actually be a good, cheap option.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 13 Jun 2011, 16:49
If your guitar has any wiggle room whatsoever, the case won't do shit except for maybe ensure it has something hard to slam against if it moves too much. Pack that fucker tight with t-shirts, problem solved. I've taken guitars on airplanes a million times and had to check them in with the rest of the baggage that they love to abuse, and the only time I ever had trouble was when TSA had searched through my shit and packed it back in completely negligently.
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Post by: Bearer on 14 Jun 2011, 04:36
Old as the internet but relevant: http://youtu.be/5YGc4zOqozo
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Post by: Zingoleb on 14 Jun 2011, 12:30
If your guitar has any wiggle room whatsoever, the case won't do shit except for maybe ensure it has something hard to slam against if it moves too much. Pack that fucker tight with t-shirts, problem solved. I've taken guitars on airplanes a million times and had to check them in with the rest of the baggage that they love to abuse, and the only time I ever had trouble was when TSA had searched through my shit and packed it back in completely negligently.

This solves two problems: Guitar and what do with clothing
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Post by: IDMG on 14 Jun 2011, 12:54
In 2 weeks time I'm gonna be picking up a Xaviere Jazzmaster knock-off. Pics will be forthcoming, though I'm probably going to do some extra work on it, so what will be shown isn't what it's gonna look like forever.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jun 2011, 13:04
Reading threads on OSG about building Electric XII clones and 12-string Jazzmasters is making me want to order an Electric XII neck from Warmoth and turn my Tele into a 12-string.

 :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Jun 2011, 15:38
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-85qudFdObck/Tf0l3DQFrDI/AAAAAAAAVrg/9QWlk-UaUPg/s144/IMG01343-20110602-2012.jpg)
S8 S/n on this Bronco, so the same yr as my mustang ^

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xyCD27FDF70/Tf0l3k7Qz9I/AAAAAAAAVrk/8WAkAuPXxuk/s144/IMG01344-20110602-2013.jpg) bunch of Tescos and Silvertones/Sears guitars in this shop.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wPMw05X1200/Tf0l4H2nohI/AAAAAAAAVro/0M_XaV7ahwI/s144/IMG01345-20110602-2013.jpg)

see full size image, apologize for shit quality cell images
https://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/KnoxvilleTNGuitarStore

Old City Knoxville TN, I don't remember the name of the shop. Was killing time before our show 6/2.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Jun 2011, 23:24
Holy shit, you found yourself a gem of a shop, man. Do you remember what the cross streets were at all?
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Post by: Jimor on 18 Jun 2011, 23:35
It's one of those mystical shops you can only ever find once in a lifetime.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jun 2011, 04:31
I do not but the Old City part of downtown is really just a few blocks. It is also a coffee shop and they had vinyl. So, only a few animated hot chicks away from total bliss. Their prices were not bad. That 1978 Bronco I think was $625 which is overpriced but maybe not for collectors of goofy small-scale student guitars. I think it was off of Jackson Avenue. This area http://bit.ly/mFrJ2I We were playing at Barley's so walking distance from there.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jun 2011, 09:08
Favorite thing on that map: LaCosta Latino and Southern Cuisine
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Post by: sean on 19 Jun 2011, 20:05
i bought a delay pedal today, a DD3 from my old bandmate. 50 bucks wahoooooooo time to start writing ambient music.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jun 2011, 07:02
Favorite thing on that map: LaCosta Latino and Southern Cuisine

"Southern Cuisine," or as we call it, "food."
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Post by: Lupercal on 22 Jun 2011, 02:08
You know GAS is bad when Steinbergers start to look reasonable.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Jun 2011, 09:41
Find a proper Steinberger; A Neburgh made model. They don't go for too much considering what they are, and hey're a hell of alot better than the newer Music-yo things
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Post by: valley_parade on 23 Jun 2011, 05:39
MANDOBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRD
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Post by: Bearer on 23 Jun 2011, 11:05
mandocello:
(http://www.vintageguitar.com/wp-content/uploads/2648/mandocellok4-01.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAMe9pZwogY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAMe9pZwogY)
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Post by: Akima on 23 Jun 2011, 21:02
Scratch that, I went to a shop today which had a dobro ukulele, a banjolele, lutes, bouzoukis and various other awesomenesses.I want all of thems
But did the shop have a pipa (pron: pee-pah)?  What it sounds like played by Liu Feng (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QfjG9V4-zE). And more detail in this interview with Wu Man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69jtrNmNaFw). It looks like this:
(http://www.chinancient.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/pipa-02.jpg).
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Post by: Lupercal on 24 Jun 2011, 13:46
You know GAS is bad when Steinbergers start to look reasonable.
You should have your credit cards taken away immediately.

Pretty good that I don't have credit cards, I would have one already.

Nah I just like the idea of the Trans Trem. I like the idea of getting a Floyd'd guitar, but have like, no use for one. I'm not a metal player, it would just be fun to noodle around with it. But it all seems like too much of a big effort. Might as well just get a good strat-trem on a guitar. Like a Strat.

also, someone say scalloped fretboards?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Yngwie_Malmsteen_1.jpg/338px-Yngwie_Malmsteen_1.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Jun 2011, 18:38
OH HEY YOU FUCKS TAKE A LOOK AT THESE CASINOS (http://en.audiofanzine.com/hollow-body-electric-guitar/epiphone/casino/news/a.play,n.10795.html?utm_source=weekly_newsletter&utm_medium=e-mail&utm_campaign=Weekly+newsletter+for+Saturday%2C+June+25%2C+2011)
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Jun 2011, 20:22
um, http://youtu.be/SJAb-gg8Cyk
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jun 2011, 08:49
OH HEY YOU FUCKS TAKE A LOOK AT THESE CASINOS (http://en.audiofanzine.com/hollow-body-electric-guitar/epiphone/casino/news/a.play,n.10795.html?utm_source=weekly_newsletter&utm_medium=e-mail&utm_campaign=Weekly+newsletter+for+Saturday%2C+June+25%2C+2011)

Old nooz.
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Post by: Kwaping on 27 Jun 2011, 09:20
New to me... thanks for the heads-up!
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Post by: IDMG on 28 Jun 2011, 17:47
New guitar. Xaviere XV-JT40
(http://i51.tinypic.com/33zeg6r.jpg)

This thing is shoulder-destroyingly heavy and I love it.
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Post by: Chad K. on 28 Jun 2011, 22:33
Very nice!  I have a black xv-910 on order from them.  It's a Casino clone but with a semi-hollow body.  I'm a little nervous about the sight unseen thing so it's good to hear some good reviews.
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Post by: Akima on 30 Jun 2011, 17:01
No, but scalloped fretboards are way too metal for me.
Did someone say metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVrNNunkmIg)? Wu Man messing around with the electric pipa (http://kitundu.tumblr.com/post/710754689/this-is-possibly-the-first-electric-pipa-a) built by Walter Kitundu, featured in her Shanghai Blues.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jul 2011, 08:12
Oh coolio. May have snagged one of those surprisingly now-sought-after black Sovtek Big Muffs that were discontinued a few years back.

I liked it when I tried one with a Squier Duo-Sonic, but they they just disappeared/were discontinued. My Dano fuzz is nice, but I need something a little more burly and low-end, as well.


edit: I think I called it "too smooth" when I first tried it out, but like the Dano, that burliness will come from putting my Double Muff in front of it.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jul 2011, 09:29
want: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2011/Jul/GALLERY_Montreal_Guitar_Show_2011.aspx?Page=32&#gallery
WIDMAN ELECTRIC BANJO
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Post by: Lummer on 10 Jul 2011, 23:52
O HAI

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0009-2.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0010-2.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0012-2.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0013-2.jpg)

PUNK
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/IMG_0018-1.jpg)

So, basically this is a swamp ash Tele Deluxe from Warmoth, with a counterfeit (or MIJ, I dunno) Fender Strat neck that I found in a bin. The pickup is of course the very lovely Alnico War Pig. I love this thing to death, to put it mildly.
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Post by: doombilly on 11 Jul 2011, 06:35
STRAP LOCKS.
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Post by: Melodic on 11 Jul 2011, 13:52
authenticity


i dig that guitar, though! not a fan of the big-ass pickguard, but the one-knob/one-pickup approach is something i've got a massive hardon for.
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Post by: Kwaping on 11 Jul 2011, 15:37
I like everything but the duct tape.
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jul 2011, 17:12
OH GOD YES. o/
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Post by: Lummer on 12 Jul 2011, 00:29
authenticity


i dig that guitar, though! not a fan of the big-ass pickguard, but the one-knob/one-pickup approach is something i've got a massive hardon for.
exactly

Well, the bigass pickguard was necessary, since this guitar is routed as a Tele Deluxe, ie for two humbuckers, so there really was no getting around it.
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Jul 2011, 07:29
I concur. Also agree the duct tape is fugly.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 12 Jul 2011, 08:58
i likes it, but is that body even finished with anything?
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Post by: Kwaping on 12 Jul 2011, 10:03
I love the big pickguard/single pickup combo. That's part of what makes this guitar so awesome.

The guitar reminds me of this guy (Village People).

(http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/28354.gif)
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Jul 2011, 05:56
newest guitarded thing I found on the www just now:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/13/diaforce-film-captures-your-virtuoso-performance-could-replace/
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Post by: The Duke on 14 Jul 2011, 11:48
Hey Guitar Topic, I need your help/knowledge/expertise.  My acoustic guitar (this one (http://www.allacousticguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/takamine-acoustic-guitar-2186361105976034260.jpg)) is doing this thing where the G string makes this buzz inside the body, right underneath the bridge, no matter which fret you play it on.  It is super annoying.  I've done some experimenting, and I've determined that is caused by neither the truss rod, nor the actual bridge, nor the string itself.  My other acoustic (this one (http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/musical_instruments/detail-page/B0002D02J4-1.jpg)) has just started doing the same thing, as has my friend's Gibson acoustic, meaning it doesn't seem to be a manufacturer issue either.  I suspect that it may be caused by humidity, but I wanted to check with you guys before I invest in any kind of dehumidifier(s).  Does anyone here have any experience with this?
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 14 Jul 2011, 15:15
I had the same problem with my Takamine. I ended up taking it in to a local repair shop and they said there was a loose brace inside the body. Bastards ended up charging me twice what they told me they would.
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Post by: The Duke on 14 Jul 2011, 17:38
Did it work again afterward, though?  I took it in and once they were done it was all good for about a week or two, and then it started having the same problem again, so they replaced it with another of the same model, and that's the one I have now and it's doing the same thing.  Also, it strikes me as a bit of a coincidence that three totally different guitars would have that same problem at the same time; unless it's brought on by something like the humidity or some such.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Jul 2011, 22:49
Humidity wouldn't be too surprising. Also: having a dehumidifier around is always a good call.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 Jul 2011, 07:04
I just got this 8 pack of specialized sacks of calcium carbonate (from Home Depot) as I noticed some mold in my guitar closet. Considering both of the supporting walls are underground this is not too strange. Also since our A/C died last August, I'm hoping this will dry it up sufficiently.

Also SPOOOOJ
http://guitarz.blogspot.com/
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Post by: Lummer on 20 Jul 2011, 00:39
I've just bought a solid state amp and I LOVE IT!
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jul 2011, 09:10
He's right, just just pump your love juices into it and then leave it in a steamy mound of tangled sheets. You never call it back. You change your route not to run into it again. Oh wait, what were we talking about?
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Jul 2011, 09:16
You are wrong. You cannot possibly love a solid state amp!

I dunno. I've heard some great things about the Vox Pathfinder series.
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Jul 2011, 11:28
Shane the people who told you great things about the Pathfinder series were wrong, those things suck just as much dick as any other solid-state.

The only time solid state doesn't blow huge ass is with bass amps.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jul 2011, 13:32
I want to hear from the Lummer. I'm sure that was not said in jest. He's toying with us. Or he's afraid to come out as Solid State Curious. (Surely he's not full blown SS? he's Bi-ampual for sure...right Lummer?)
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Post by: Melodic on 20 Jul 2011, 13:37
I setup my SG like a boss today. I screwed every screw to the perfect amount of screwage.

(Also, I am finally approaching the amount of money I will need to buy a proper amplifier. I am thinking a Fender Twin something or such).
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Post by: Lummer on 21 Jul 2011, 04:42
I want to hear from the Lummer. I'm sure that was not said in jest. He's toying with us. Or he's afraid to come out as Solid State Curious. (Surely he's not full blown SS? he's Bi-ampual for sure...right Lummer?)

I am indeed very bi-ampual. On one side there is the ol' modded Laney GH50L I've been rockin' for a few years now. That goes through a plain-jane Marshall 4x12. On the other is my newest aquisition, whích is a cheapo Randall RH100G2 Halfstack. The cab is pretty good, just a standard 4x12, no frills and gimmícks there.

Where the Randall Rh-series shines, though, is their distortion channel. The amount of brutal, disgustingly heavy low-end these bastards pump out is just astounding, if not a little scary. It works very weel together with the Laney amp, which is all Brit midrange snarl. Those two amps combined give me just the right stuff for what I'm going for.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Jul 2011, 09:01
I setup my SG like a boss today. I screwed every screw to the perfect amount of screwage.

(Also, I am finally approaching the amount of money I will need to buy a proper amplifier. I am thinking a Fender Twin something or such).

If you want some clean with your cleans, get a Deluxe Reverb. So, so sweet. Never tried one with any od/distortion, though.
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Post by: Lupercal on 21 Jul 2011, 09:34
I really hate the tuning pegs my Strat has. The stupid type where you put the end of the string downwards into a hole, then wind. I just had to replace a brand new string because I ended up cutting too much of it off. I mean, when did these exist in the 50s? Pssh...

Tuned up a step and a half the other day - F#,B,E,A,C,F#. Weird, but very comfortable.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 21 Jul 2011, 15:22
wait, that's not up a step and a half, I am confused
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 21 Jul 2011, 17:27
Tuning up is fun! I'm currently using a bit of CGCFADG and CGCGCCG. I just need a new guitar to get some GCGCGCCG going on.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Jul 2011, 06:30
wait, that's not up a step and a half, I am confused

Yeah that's just a step.
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Post by: Lupercal on 22 Jul 2011, 10:34
Yeah, I'm ever so slightly fucked in the head.
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Post by: Lupercal on 22 Jul 2011, 10:35
Tuning up is fun! I'm currently using a bit of CGCFADG and CGCGCCG. I just need a new guitar to get some GCGCGCCG going on.

Is that many Cs really necessary?  :psyduck:
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 22 Jul 2011, 16:53
YES
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Post by: Plubbingworth on 22 Jul 2011, 17:31
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-85qudFdObck/Tf0l3DQFrDI/AAAAAAAAVrg/9QWlk-UaUPg/s144/IMG01343-20110602-2012.jpg)
S8 S/n on this Bronco, so the same yr as my mustang ^

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xyCD27FDF70/Tf0l3k7Qz9I/AAAAAAAAVrk/8WAkAuPXxuk/s144/IMG01344-20110602-2013.jpg) bunch of Tescos and Silvertones/Sears guitars in this shop.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wPMw05X1200/Tf0l4H2nohI/AAAAAAAAVro/0M_XaV7ahwI/s144/IMG01345-20110602-2013.jpg)

see full size image, apologize for shit quality cell images
https://picasaweb.google.com/illicitizen/KnoxvilleTNGuitarStore

Old City Knoxville TN, I don't remember the name of the shop. Was killing time before our show 6/2.

I registered just to let you know that the name of the store is Hot Horse Records. The supplier is the owner of Music Room Guitars (I bought both my electric and nylon-string there despite there being a much larger and experienced store like a freaking block away, I just found what I wanted), and the owner is a real nice guy. Only complaint is that he gave me some terrible strings with both instruments. :P

I learned about him and and his store (and by extension, Hot Horse) through some fellows musicians at a volunteer music academy in Knoxville.

...Um, I like to keep up with the music suppliers and sources in my town. :P There's like fifty more around here.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.282001888900.144231.271759723900
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Post by: Melodic on 22 Jul 2011, 18:03
If you want some clean with your cleans, get a Deluxe Reverb. So, so sweet. Never tried one with any od/distortion, though.

Yeah, I'm looking for something pretty clean since I'll be running a Pod into it, and still want to be able to fuck about with different amp models without the cab imparting too much tone on the Pod. I'm also a sucker for the old Reverbs, especially the tremolo inputs.
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Jul 2011, 21:13
I setup my SG like a boss today. I screwed every screw to the perfect amount of screwage.

(Also, I am finally approaching the amount of money I will need to buy a proper amplifier. I am thinking a Fender Twin something or such).

If you want some clean with your cleans, get a Deluxe Reverb. So, so sweet. Never tried one with any od/distortion, though.

My favorite amps right now are the Marshall Haze series. I'm also pretty alright with this Marshall AVT 20 I've been borrowing from my pal, it's a pretty satisfactory amp. I do wish it had a footswitch though. The Haze series does, but the effects are digital.
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Post by: Christophe on 23 Jul 2011, 02:10
Hey Dudes who were dissing on the Solid State amps earlier

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270435_536929134605_205400701_31315275_2721914_n.jpg)

Feast your eyes on my Traynor TS-50 and Eat A Dick
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jul 2011, 12:36

I registered just to let you know that the name of the store is Hot Horse Records. The supplier is the owner of Music Room Guitars (I bought both my electric and nylon-string there despite there being a much larger and experienced store like a freaking block away, I just found what I wanted), and the owner is a real nice guy. Only complaint is that he gave me some terrible strings with both instruments. :P

I learned about him and and his store (and by extension, Hot Horse) through some fellows musicians at a volunteer music academy in Knoxville.

...Um, I like to keep up with the music suppliers and sources in my town. :P There's like fifty more around here.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.282001888900.144231.271759723900
Yah, that's it. Hit me up @ illicitizen @ gmail if you have any insight on booking in Kville. :P
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Post by: Zingoleb on 23 Jul 2011, 12:49
Tuning up is fun! I'm currently using a bit of CGCFADG and CGCGCCG. I just need a new guitar to get some GCGCGCCG going on.

I've been fucking around with FADGBbE. It's pretty great if you want to fuck around with harmonics in a minor tone.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jul 2011, 15:30
http://mlkshk.com/p/58C3
DiPinto Custom Baritone Galaxie 4
edit++giant picture is giant
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Post by: Radical AC on 24 Jul 2011, 18:44
I ordered a new overdrive!  Nobels ODR-1 (http://proguitarshop.com/store/effects-overdrive-pedals-c-602_6/nobels-odr-1-overdrive-p-2864), should get here this week. 
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 24 Jul 2011, 22:20
I hear good things about Roland JC's. I had a gear nerd-out with Steven Drozd of the Flaming Lips and he swears by them.
I've personally never tried one, but I've never played a solid state that sounded as good as a tube amp.
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Jul 2011, 23:46
Oh man that ODR-1 sounds amazing. Let me know how it is and I might buy one myself.
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Jul 2011, 04:00
I hear good things about Roland JC's. I had a gear nerd-out with Steven Drozd of the Flaming Lips and he swears by them.
I've personally never tried one, but I've never played a solid state that sounded as good as a tube amp.
These really are good, clean, reliable amps. Kind of heavy but the chorus is definitely usable.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jul 2011, 12:57
The Haze series does, but the effects are digital.

As my mate Jim would say, IMPOSSIBRRRRRUUU
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jul 2011, 13:17
Hey Dudes who were dissing on the Solid State amps earlier

Feast your eyes on my lame miking job

fyp
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 26 Jul 2011, 13:28
FINALLY FINISHED MAH TELE!

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/suntele003.jpg)

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/suntele005.jpg)

GFS bod / pickups, allparts neck, locking tuners bigsby/mustang bridge, 4 way switch, push/pull coil tap, bone nut, etc etc.

put a lot into this one, and she sings my friends!

also made this bastard child with the leftovers:

(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn302/allleeexxxx/rondotele001.jpg)

fun stuff, love my teles.  :-D
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jul 2011, 13:37
My word. That's sick, especially with the wire arm on the Bigsby.

Sadly, I'm kinda debating putting my Squier Tele up for sale/trade for nice fuzz. I just don't use it that much anymore. =/
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Post by: Patrick on 26 Jul 2011, 13:38
Holy fucking jesus, that's amazing! Fat, FAT props for binding your body. What is her name?
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 26 Jul 2011, 13:44
thanks guys.   :-D

i usually dont name my guitars, might have to give that some thought.

my first plan was to name it the teslacaster, but my first plan had wackier wiring, maybe it still works though?

thoughts? im open to names.
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Jul 2011, 14:42
That Tele is like the refined, highly evolved 80-generations-down descendant of my caveman Tele. I love it.
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Jul 2011, 17:36
That is hands-down the best-looking supertele I've ever seen. Wire arm, binding, funky pup selection... yeah, well done sir. Not something I'd choose but obviously has a lot of heart in it.

Hey dudes that have listened to that ODR-1 promo video, if you can tell me how the fuck to play that opening riff (or where it's from) I'll give you cookies.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 27 Jul 2011, 09:41
thanks for the kind words guys, i seriously appreciate the feedback.

so i set it up shortly after posting the pic, neck shim, truss rod tweak, bridge adjust, etc. it is seriously the best playing guitar i own at this point. im so pleased with myself, haha. even though this is made out of the cheapest "budget" parts, i put almost twice as much money into this than i paid for any of my other guitars, and it definately reflects that in the sound and playability.

fer reals, i love it so much.  :lol:
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Jul 2011, 10:27
Are those GFS bodies as light as they always claim to be?
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 27 Jul 2011, 10:34
they really are, even with the bigsby and big locking tuners and whatnot this thing weighs just over SIX pounds.

the body is really great for me, it soaks up a ton of the highs which is just how i like it, makes for a nice smooth mellow thing going on.
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Jul 2011, 13:16
there is no way that tele is lighter than my SG.
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Jul 2011, 13:18
 :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 27 Jul 2011, 13:41
yeah i just weighed it again to be sure, 6.5 dude!
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Post by: Radical AC on 27 Jul 2011, 22:01
That tele is upsettingly pretty.

I got my Nobels!  It is unbelievable through my DeVille.  I've been getting some amazing Built to Spill sounds with delay.  I need to try it with some higher output pickups, right now I've just been using my Dano Pro and my toaster top Rick.  I'll see if I can't get a camera for clips at some point in the future.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jul 2011, 05:50
there is no way that tele is lighter than my SG.

They claim on the site that the bodies are only like 2-2.5lbs. Would make sense.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jul 2011, 08:21
Speaking of SGs, SAVING MONEY SO HARD FOR THIS. HOLY.

(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/july11/sgs/epiphone-sg-specials.jpg)


(I guess adios, my Telecaster)

edit: Yeah. I'd be okay if the herd was just a Jagmaster and a p-90ed out SG.
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Post by: Melodic on 28 Jul 2011, 10:20
I dunno man, I've noodled around on Epiphone SGs, and all of them feel thick, chunky, and unwieldy. Epiphone's 335 and Paul copies are pretty good, but the SG just doesn't feel right.
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Jul 2011, 11:24
Speaking of the 335, I haven't seen anything specific  aside from pictures, but I guess they're also coming out with their own ES-339. So..just a Dot with a slightly smaller body.

But man, an SG Special = dream guitar. and $400 is way more in my price range than a CS model for like $3k.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 28 Jul 2011, 13:35
hey those sg's even have amber switch tips!

thats funny.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Jul 2011, 19:47
I dunno man, I've noodled around on Epiphone SGs, and all of them feel thick, chunky, and unwieldy. Epiphone's 335 and Paul copies are pretty good, but the SG just doesn't feel right.

Yup. They mostly feel like slightly rounded 2x4's. Not a fan.
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Post by: Melodic on 28 Jul 2011, 21:06
I don't see the point of custom shop models -- they seem like collector's toys more than serious instruments. I got my SG Standard for $1200 post-tax, and I prefer it in every way to a custom shop version.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Jul 2011, 05:47
collector's toys

Answered your own question.

That in in the case of Gibson, they're a little bit cheaper than buying vintage.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Jul 2011, 14:17
What do you all think about guitars being exposed to heat? Had to drive the beast truck to a show in Charleston, SC today. Was about 100degF or thereabouts. Also mega humid. But then it's like that in my house...
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Post by: Lupercal on 01 Aug 2011, 07:49
There is a new line of mid-range USA Gibsons coming out, I think. You'll be looking at SGs and Les Pauls for under £500. Need to find some proper information on that, though.
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 Aug 2011, 08:37
Regarding heat, I'd say if that's normal for your guitars then they should be okay. I think drastic climate changes are probably worse than a constant-but-uncomfortable temperature, in general. Also, if they were in cases that helps a lot with protection from the elements.

I have my own question... I recently got a good deal on a used 2x12 cab from GC. However, now that I have it home I feel like it might be way more than I need. I heard that 2x12 sounds better than 1x12, but I'm wondering if the trade-off in size is really worth it - especially considering my lack of skill and such. But on the other hand, a 1x12 is only about $80 less expensive, so that's tempting me to keep the bigger cab and just deal with the size.

Thoughts, opinions?
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 01 Aug 2011, 09:09
1x12 is perfect for me and my hot rod deluxe. i bought the cab thinking it was a 2x12, but it must be some kind of pa cab or something because its got seperate inputs for both speakers.

long story short, it works great. 1x12 is more than enough to fill out the sound. if i had a head and not a combo, id want a 2x12 though.
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Post by: Radical AC on 01 Aug 2011, 12:25
It all depends on what you are using the 2x12 for.  Home studio?  Anything you can get away with that wont get the police called on you or your family irate.  Small clubs?  Won't need anything too big.  Medium sized clubs?  You might want something that can move some air.  Larger venues?  They should have a PA anyway, but more speakers can't hurt.  Who you are playing with and the style of music is important too.  Thats been my experience.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2011, 13:42
My p90 equipped stripped down rock machine GAS lingers:

http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/guitars/set_neck_series/sensei_jr.html

(http://www.reverendguitars.com/reverend/images/guitars/set_neck_series/sensei_jr/sensei_jr_wine.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 Aug 2011, 16:09
I love Reverend guitars!

Regarding my own question, I'm just playing at home right now. No gigs or even a band, but once or twice a year I go to jam sessions with extended family members. I got the 2x12 mostly because the damn Gear Page made me think I needed it, and I figured (more like "hope") I might have a real use for it someday.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2011, 16:30
1x12 should be plenty, then.

As for 2x12s "sounding better", I'd say that it probably depends more on the quality of the speaker itself than the quantity of them.
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Post by: Radical AC on 01 Aug 2011, 16:43
It can sound a little bigger and louder provided you have the amp to feed it, but that is at higher volumes than you'd really ever want to deal with at home.  My DeVille 410 is too much for home practice so I got a cheap Spider III practice amp (plan to upgrade to a nice low watt tube someday... well after I get some more pedals, guitars, and bigger amps).  Sometimes I like to look through the Gear Page and see the fancy boutique pedal boards and the expensive small company handmade low watt amps in the den of a well off middle aged man (Who I'm sure enjoys it, but never gigs or innovates with it).  Then I go over to a place like I <3 Fuzz and see some less expensive but way fun rigs.
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Post by: Kwaping on 02 Aug 2011, 14:53
well-off middle aged man (Who I'm sure enjoys it, but never gigs or innovates with it).

Uh yeah, that'd be me. :) My stuff isn't too fancy (Egnater Rebel 30, MIM strat, $200 Samick) but it's still a lot better than I need!
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Aug 2011, 15:29
in the den of a well off middle aged man (Who I'm sure enjoys it, but never gigs or innovates with it). 
Hey, I'm not well off. I'd just rather have guitar stuff than spend money on my house, clothes, cars. :D
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Post by: Radical AC on 02 Aug 2011, 17:55
But, you gig.  Hell, you tour.  I've got nothing on that.  I just really like the idea of getting two Emperor 8x10 cabs and unleashing a wall of fuzz on my neighborhood.
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Aug 2011, 20:47
No reason for a 2x12 at home. 1x12 is probably more than enough. The hassle of carrying around a 2x12 doesn't offset the once or twice you'll ever need that much volume gigging.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Aug 2011, 06:29
Coming in November (finally), the Squier J Mascis signature!

(http://images5.thomann.de/pics/prod/269129.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Aug 2011, 08:13
But, you gig.  Hell, you tour.  I've got nothing on that.  I just really like the idea of getting two Emperor 8x10 cabs and unleashing a wall of fuzz on my neighborhood.

That would be sweet. You could put a hammock between them!
#EDIT
Also not so much "touring" as being a mobile source of air and noise pollution. But hey, if I can be reviled everywhere at least I've learned to be consistent at something.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Aug 2011, 08:24
Stop it, ESP. STOP ITTTTTTTTT. New guitars appealing to me. =(

(http://www.espguitars.com/images/news/newsummerfall2011/EC-256P.jpg)

(http://www.espguitars.com/images/news/newsummerfall2011/Viper-256P.jpg)

That black Eclipse has such a '54 LP Custom vibe to it, no fair.


edit:
Quote from: ESP website
Itʼs not distressed, so youʼll need to put your own road wear on it.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 Aug 2011, 10:22
No reason for a 2x12 at home. 1x12 is probably more than enough. The hassle of carrying around a 2x12 doesn't offset the once or twice you'll ever need that much volume gigging.

That's definitely the way I'm leaning. I have a PLAN - I'm going to buy the 1x12 cab and take it home to A/B with my 2x12 in a nice quiet setting (aka NOT the floor of GC). I can then return whichever one is the loser.

Getting the wife to sign off on these harebrained glorious plans is always the hard part...
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 03 Aug 2011, 17:22
Man, their new 7 string EC models are pretty appealing, but hardtail/tunomatic bridges bridges and EMG's are not :(

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Post by: Lupercal on 04 Aug 2011, 08:06
Coming in November (finally), the Squier J Mascis signature!

(http://images5.thomann.de/pics/prod/269129.jpg)

Holy Yes Please Batman

The current Jazzmaster/Jaguars from Squier really suffer due to lack of trem, this is beautiful.
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Post by: Lupercal on 04 Aug 2011, 10:16
My friend got that exact guitar. Such a lovely thing. Quite small, too. Gretsch either go smaller-than-Tele size or, well, Falcon sized. Although the White Penguin would be one of those if-i-won-the-lottery guitars.
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Aug 2011, 17:22
Dudes, recommend me some seriously dope baritones. I wanna get my bB on.

Also I really, really wanna buy me a Deluxe Reverb. I'd probably never, ever get the chance to crank the volume on it, but I found one local in prime condition for $800.
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Post by: Lupercal on 05 Aug 2011, 04:07
Well since they stopped doing the baritone Jag....

Danelectro 67 Baritone? (http://www.danelectro.com/gtr_wt_barred.html)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 05 Aug 2011, 04:47
God dang, that thing is hideous. Peronally, I find baritone strats to sound pretty good. I had my old strat tuned to A standard/ drop G# for a while, as well as AADGBE, and the singles sound really good that way. Fender has made baritone strats and teles in the past, right? I'd try to find one of those. They were called the Subsonic series or something, I think?

Edit: Apparently Gibson's got a new baritone studio model out: (http://images.gibson.com.s3.amazonaws.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio-Baritone/Gallery-Images/LPBSHBCH1-Finish-Shot.jpg)
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Post by: IDMG on 05 Aug 2011, 07:21
You could always go for those Eastwood Hi-Flier Baritones.

(http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/Other/sidejack-baritone/images/sidejackBarit-big/sidejackbarimetblue.jpg)
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Post by: Lupercal on 05 Aug 2011, 08:20
The request never said "good looking"  :mrgreen:

Call off the search, I found your answer - Gretsch Electromatic Jet Baritone (http://www.gretschguitars.com/products/index.php?partno=2515900506).

Mmm, sparkly.
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Post by: doombilly on 07 Aug 2011, 07:58
like your moms at the swinger party...
(http://www.premierguitar.com/Stream/StreamImage.aspx?Image_ID=843A6AD4-33CE-4EAB-96B8-D23DAD7F98E8&Image_Type=image)
too many knobs on her.
Oh hi, pagebreak.
(http://www.makenmusic.com/productImg/Flaxwood_LiekkiTrem_0109715_frontbody.jpg)
Flaxwood Liekki 290-T
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Aug 2011, 09:24
Dudes, recommend me some seriously dope baritones. I wanna get my bB on.

Also I really, really wanna buy me a Deluxe Reverb. I'd probably never, ever get the chance to crank the volume on it, but I found one local in prime condition for $800.

As the guy at the store I tried a vintage one out at reminded me over and over, NEVER ABOVE FOUR!!!!

I'm just in love with those amps.
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Post by: Kwaping on 08 Aug 2011, 21:30
I "Liekki" that bridge/tailpiece combo thingy.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 Aug 2011, 11:47
I "Liekki" that bridge/tailpiece combo thingy.
I like lipstick.
(http://www.makenmusic.com/productImg/Flaxwood_LaineTrem_0508453_frontfull.jpg)
Cuz I'm a pretty, pretty thing.
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Post by: Melodic on 09 Aug 2011, 14:27
yr fascination w/crazy offsets is gonna get yew killed.
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Post by: Akima on 09 Aug 2011, 15:33
Flaxwood Liekki 290-T
Ugh! What do they call that finish? Oil-slick? Sump-drainings?
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Aug 2011, 09:19
Flaxwood Liekki 290-T
Ugh! What do they call that finish? Oil-slick? Sump-drainings?
"Saraste Tobaccoburst"
I was gonna go with "hyper-magnified skid mark." But that would be crude. Oh wait.
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Post by: glyphic on 10 Aug 2011, 14:38
All polished stone. Work of a decade. Weighs three hundred pounds, it does. She sounds exactly like you might think a rock would sound.
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Post by: Radical AC on 10 Aug 2011, 14:56
It's on sale for two grand. (http://www.makenmusic.com/product.cfm?prodID=1335&catID=1)  The resonator plate on the back kills the look for me.  Not to mention my Dano Pro was less than a tenth that price.  Still, love me some lipstick pickups.
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Post by: Akima on 10 Aug 2011, 15:57
It's on sale for two grand. (http://www.makenmusic.com/product.cfm?prodID=1335&catID=1)
Oh! Flaxwood is the manufacturer! I thought it was the wood the body was made from. I am such an idiot! :laugh:
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Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 13 Aug 2011, 15:44
Hello,

I'm looking to buy my first electric guitar. I have an acoustic electric and I'm okay but definitely still beginner quality. So I want this new guitar to be decent but not flashy since I don't need that right now. I keep seeing bundles like this: http://www.amazon.com/Squier-Fender-Dreaming-Start-Playing/dp/B001R2I12Y/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1313275430&sr=8-5 but have no clue if these are smart to buy. I don't want something too crummy. If something along those lines is a smart buy, great! If not, where and for what should I be looking? Thanks!!
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Aug 2011, 18:57
Yea, how much are you looking to spend? My first electric was a Danelectro with a Peavey amp, maybe about $500 all together. The Dano I still play (it is awesome!), the Peavey I got rid of long ago.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Aug 2011, 02:23
I'd recommend looking at rondomusic.com (http://rondomusic.com), and just see what fits your budget. As far as amps go, I have no idea what to recommend, other than the cheaper Orange amps (Tiny Terror series if you want tube), or just the basic cheap Fender/Epiphone stuff.
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Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 14 Aug 2011, 08:57
Cool, thanks! $500 for guitar and amp is a bit high I think since I'd like to get a couple pedals as well. Lots of options though!
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Post by: Radical AC on 14 Aug 2011, 10:58
I would recommend upgrading to a tube amp before treating your amps tone with a lot of pedals.  It isn't going to sound good with a cheap solid state anyway, and different pedals sound different with different kinds of tubes and amps.  Also, what kind of music do you want to play?  I love my Dano, but the lipstick pickups have about the lowest output you can get.  It makes the sound much different than if you used a Les Paul with humbuckers.  Starting off it doesn't really matter all that much, but it can be nice to plan ahead.
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Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 14 Aug 2011, 14:28
I don't plan on playing anything too fancy. I'm not good enough for one and super complex riffs and solos aren't my aim anyway. Simple punk and garage stuff and general noise and/or drone music is more what I hope to do on the electric. More of the latter probably. I'd like something that can sound nice and grimy but not heavy metal-y if that makes sense. Also preferably something durable. When playing noise stuff on borrowed guitars in the past, they tend to get walloped on a little bit so something particularly cheaply constructed isn't going to cut it. I don't know if there's anything that'll specifically work out for all that but I'm not overly picky at this point and won't be until I become a more competent player.
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Post by: Kwaping on 15 Aug 2011, 09:54
Hey TheFuriousWombat,

I think I can help here. I've been playing for a few years now, so I'm just out of the noob phase. I feel that makes me very suited to answer your questions. I recommend NOT getting any pedals right away. I was a pedal fan when I first started, but that didn't work out so well because I didn't really know anything and made some bad investments. My advice to you is to get a Fender Mustang amp, ideally the Mustang III if you can afford it ($299). It is a modelling amp, and not tube, but don't let that turn you off. Pay no attention to the tube-amp-only cork sniffers. :)

That amp has a ton of versatility and also a lot of built-in pedal-like effects that you can tweak just like real pedals. You will not be disappointed with either the sound or versatility. It also can sound great at very low levels, which is important for beginners like us.

After you've played for a while and have a good feeling for playing and gear, then I would suggest you get a tube amp and start in on the pedals.

Regarding guitars, I'd say get a cheap used guitar to start with. DO NOT buy new! Your tastes may change as you progress with your learning and you will lose a lot of money if you sell a new guitar on the used market. However, if you start off with a used guitar, you should be able to get close to your purchase price upon resale. I know it's scary for a new player to enter the used guitar world, but having a guitarist friend along to help you pick a good one will help a lot. You could also pay a little more and buy a used guitar at Guitar Center, to take advantage of their good return policy in case you don't like it.

Based on the music you said you want to play, I'd recommend getting a guitar with humbuckers over one with single coil pickups. However, I believe the Mustang can pull out some aggressive tones even from single-coils.

Good luck and have fun! :)
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Aug 2011, 10:03
Musician's Friend currently has the new-ish Dano U2 reissues for about $199
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Post by: TheFuriousWombat on 15 Aug 2011, 16:18
huh, never thought about buying used but it makes sense when you put it that way. I'll definitely check that out. Thanks for the advice on the amp vs. pedals issue too, Kwaping. A question about Danelectros: regarding the '56 cutaways, are the ones with the dolphin headstock the same as the ones without except for that design feature? I like the sound of these guitars but I'm not a huge fan of the aqua or cherry red colors that the dolphin head ones come in.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Aug 2011, 16:44
The bottle headstocks are more dead-on to the originals..I think the "dolphin" headstocks have humbuckers in the bridge.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 16 Aug 2011, 06:37
All I can say about newer Danelectros is that you get what you pay for. i'd never recommend them to someone I liked. Honestly, for droney and/or noisy stuff, I'd go with a used Les Paul-style guitar. Most new Epiphones are alright.

I can't really help though. All I own these days are japanese superstrats with double-locking trems.  :psyduck:
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Aug 2011, 09:06
I would echo the, find a decent used electric. I wouldn't be very picky about the brand. Something rugged.

Also apparently that demented guy from the reality tv show has put the band back together...
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/News/black-sabbath-0816-2011/
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Aug 2011, 16:16
guys, kauer has a virtual guitar builder.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295967_10150348441799155_539504154_10048567_885549_n.jpg)
who hates me the most?
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Aug 2011, 18:03
played around with it all afternoon. My favorite is still the most-stripped-downed Jr. with kbuckers.

ps: I played around with a Twin 'Verb today and it is heavy as fuck. Like, I am not a Super Buff dude and there is no way I could lug it to gigs ever. Anyone know if the Deluxe is much lighter?
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Aug 2011, 21:01
motherfucking genius
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Aug 2011, 13:11
Guys, the thing about Danos is that they only sound good through good amps. If you use them through shitty amps, they sound absolutely awful. Many other inexpensive guitars sound alright through shitty amps (and great through good amps!) but Danos are extremely polarized like that.

I played a Dano U2 (the Jimmy Page one, for anybody new to Danos) through a Vox AC15 once, and it sounded like an absolute dream. I later played the exact same Dano through a Vox Pathfinder 15 and I felt a strange compulsion to throw everything I was using directly into a giant tank of gasoline and make it all the latest contribution to the planet's atmosphere.
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Post by: glyphic on 17 Aug 2011, 13:30
I dunno, man. I have a U1 that I've played through my Sovtek Mig-50 and through a shitty Johnson practice amp and it sounds pretty rad through both.
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Aug 2011, 18:41
zzounds has 6 guitars @ $300, or so there admail told me.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Aug 2011, 05:51
I played a Dano U2 (the Jimmy Page one, for anybody new to Danos)

SLAP

The U-series is the LP shaped one. Page played a Shorthorn, which is now released as the DC-59.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Aug 2011, 07:46
Patrick is now required to only shop at Guitar Centers for the next 45 days. And can only try out Strats.

Dem's the rules, son.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Aug 2011, 09:11
I mean, that does make more sense than maybe "le Les Pauls", but with my limited knowledge of los francaises, wouldn't that only work if it were plural? Les Pauls? or les Les Pauls?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 18 Aug 2011, 20:04
Patrick is now required to only shop at Guitar Centers for the next 45 days. And can only try out Strats.

Dem's the rules, son.

Psh, I'm too broke to shop for anything. And I've been working on streamlining my cover of "Setting Me Up" anyway, ya fuck.
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Post by: Radical AC on 18 Aug 2011, 20:06
My Dano Pro doesn't sound very good through my Spider III 15w, but sounds AMAZING through my DeVille.  I'm pretty sure my 07 Pro came with the Yesteryear pups that are the only ones you can get from the manufacturer.  They are between 4 and 5 ohm impedance.  It is very apparent when using drive pedals for distortion.  The toaster tops on my Rick are 7.5 ohms.  I use the Spider for practicing scales (why I bought it) and micing my MicroKorg.  So, I agree with Pat on the amp issue.  I second the rondo music guitars, especially the AL-2000s for a GOOD CHEAP guitar.  It is something you can always use no matter where you are financially or musically.  Danelectros fill a specific purpose, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend one as your first electric.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Aug 2011, 01:17
ITT; We find out that guitars sound better through decent amps  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 19 Aug 2011, 01:23
right, but dano pups are notoriously scratchy anyway -- my '67 has exactly two tonal options: super-twang & mud, neither of which sound great through a 15w practice amp.
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Aug 2011, 01:50
Guys, I am GAS'ing hardcore for a Les Paul again...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Aug 2011, 01:54
That single-buckered Deluxe thing you posted on Facebook? That thing is sexay (For a shortscale non-superstrat that is).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 19 Aug 2011, 01:56
Yeah, that one too, but I'm mostly gassing for black Custom or a Standard. If I find a Studio that's sufficiently beat-to-shit I could live with that too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 19 Aug 2011, 07:03
Heh. My cousin owns a 90's Studio that someone took a grinder to. It also has a broken (and repaired) neck. It plays like shit and sounds awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 19 Aug 2011, 10:53
I recently sold a bunch of pedals and my only amp to get a better amp. That cured my GAS for a while, but it's starting to creep back...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbx830n5e68
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: glyphic on 19 Aug 2011, 10:56
Anyone want to buy and pick up an Amped BXT-series 4X10 and 1X15?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Aug 2011, 12:24
"pick up" and "ampeg" = why my back is not what it used to be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Aug 2011, 12:47
Yeah, I have a hand truck. But I still have to lift an SVT head in road case on/off tail gate. Oh and the 8x10 is 175lbs. It has wheels but still has to be hoisted in/out of the truck.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 19 Aug 2011, 16:44
That or this.. (http://cdn.dealsdirect.net/m/products/895/6895/3/product1_6895.jpg)
That thing has saved many a person's back when my dad does sound for larger events

I would feel kind of silly using a hand truck for a 40lb amp, though. I mean, I'm weak but I don't want people to know it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 19 Aug 2011, 19:23
Currently bidding on an impossibly cheap Line 6 Pocket Pod, but I'm wondering if it would be worth the the extra money to get a Pod XT or something second hand?

Bestow upon me your wisdom, guitar thread!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Aug 2011, 20:24
I would feel kind of silly using a hand truck for a 40lb amp, though. I mean, I'm weak but I don't want people to know it.

40lbs is plenty heavy, especially when taking into account how awkward that 40lbs really is. My 100w Marshall is 52lbs, and that is about 1 stone shy of being half my weight.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 20 Aug 2011, 01:19
Casters feel like they'll do the trick for a Deluxe, though. Keeping in mind that I don't have a vehicle and play solo, so this would be me on public transit with a 1x12 and two guitar cases.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 20 Aug 2011, 02:55
I would feel kind of silly using a hand truck for a 40lb amp, though. I mean, I'm weak but I don't want people to know it.
That kind of macho bullshit is how guys so often screw up their backs at work. 40lbs is plenty to pop your back if you lift it awkwardly.

Yeah, I have a hand truck. But I still have to lift an SVT head in road case on/off tail gate. Oh and the 8x10 is 175lbs. It has wheels but still has to be hoisted in/out of the truck.
175lbs... Ow! Have you considered:
(http://www.yi-lift.com/Lifting_equipment/R079_TCT_CZ/CZ.gif)
I know this sort of thing costs money that you'd rather spend on guitars, amps etc. but so does back surgery.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 20 Aug 2011, 03:43
Absolutely agree with all concerns on watching out for your back. I've tweaked mine and had to report it to OSHA when I incorrectly lifted a potted plant that only weighed 20. I was in the back of somebody's van making sure all their potted plants fit in there, and I was on my knees holding my torso up with one hand while trying to lift using the other. I was out of commission on loading customers' orders for 2 weeks.

Don't fuck with your back, you only get one of them. They'll serve you well your whole life if you're good to them. That lifting hand truck? Soon as I can afford something like that, I'm doing it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 20 Aug 2011, 11:50
Have you considered:
(http://www.yi-lift.com/Lifting_equipment/R079_TCT_CZ/CZ.gif)
I know this sort of thing costs money that you'd rather spend on guitars, amps etc. but so does back surgery.
I has a birthday next month. But I'd rather save everyone's ears (getting singing lessons). LOL
That think looks awesome. But then I'd need to take it w/ me and that would take space up in truck/need to be lifted also. :(
That econoline...no.no.no. Must be WHITE, no windows, maybe a personalize license plate that sez, "FREE CANDY." heh
srsly, I'd LOVE a van. You go on tour with the truck you have. I have literally bankrupted myself to play shows. Vans, or much of anything are out of the question. Maybe I should buy more lottery tix? There's  nothing like the feeling of having an 8x10 fall on you in the yard and being pinned in the mud.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 20 Aug 2011, 21:18
you are so stoned right now
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Aug 2011, 07:39
No, sorry I come by this naturally. I don't do drugs, only drink and was sober when I typed that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 25 Aug 2011, 10:18
What's your guys opinion on this:

Mesa Mini-Rectifier (http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rectifier_Series/Mini_Rectifier_25/miniRectifier25.html#gpm1_1)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 25 Aug 2011, 16:30
What's your guys opinion on this: Mesa Mini-Rectifier (http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Rectifier_Series/Mini_Rectifier_25/miniRectifier25.html#gpm1_1)
"this little gas-in-glass-powered jewel"? Isn't the whole point of vacuum tubes that they don't contain gas? I am confused.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 25 Aug 2011, 22:45
Hence vacuum  tube.  Probably some confusion with the fact that incandescent and fluorescent light bulbs do contain gas, and have uses in electronics (e.g. in compression and voltage regulation circuits, also see thyristor), but amplification tubes are hard vacuum.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 26 Aug 2011, 03:19
Well, it is $150 more than the Orange Dual Terror.  If it is anything like the Dual Rectifier it will hate guitar pedals.  Mesa can make some cool amps, but by the time I get to their price range I am always going to look at something else.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Aug 2011, 09:06
Just get a dual/tiny terror, really. If you're going to use it for metal at all (I mean, it IS a Rec after all) you're going to want to look into getting a Maxon OD-808 or Ibanez TS-808 to boost it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 26 Aug 2011, 19:02
(http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i446/ZAL77449/jar_jar.jpg)

I notice the finish is mostly black. Do you really want to buy a Black Mesa? It probably comes with a free Headcrab.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 26 Aug 2011, 23:28
Just get a dual/tiny terror, really. If you're going to use it for metal at all (I mean, it IS a Rec after all) you're going to want to look into getting a Maxon OD-808 or Ibanez TS-808 to boost it.

I'm not really in the market for a new amp at the moment, just curious because every other musically inclined forum I go on is talking about it.

If I was springing for a metal amp, the Orange Dark Terror is what would catch my eye. Not much good for anything but hi-gain metal as far as I could make out, but it does the one thing it can really well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 29 Aug 2011, 11:52
Not much good for anything but XXXXXXX as far as I could make out, but it does the one thing it can really well.

That seems to describe every Orange product, if you ask me. I hate Orange cleans, but their gain tone is to die for.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Aug 2011, 12:26
Incoming later this week, inspired by a shitton of GAS and listening to different samples all Friday afternoon:

A clone of the original-style "triangle" Big Muff.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Aug 2011, 00:36
Okaaay... So it seems I'm never gonna buy a Factory-New Gibson ever again. At least not until they get a new CEO.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/hollywoodland/2011/08/26/gibson-guitar-ceo-on-obama-doj-raids-were-being-persecuted/

One thing is to brazenly break laws regarding endangered timbers, another thing is to be such a dick about it and pull the victim card. Seriously, fuck this guy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Aug 2011, 05:28
One thing is to brazenly break laws regarding endangered timbers, another thing is to be such a dick about it and pull the victim card.

Do we really know that?  From this article (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904787404576530520471223268.html?mod=googlenews_wsj):

Quote
Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice Department of bullying the company. "The wood the government seized Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier," he said

Note also in the linked article the $17,500 fine plus probation for a company that imported some antique Bösendorfer pianos with ivory keys, and didn't get all the paperwork right.  Is this a transparent and effective way to save the environment?  What about the Kyoto protocol, for instance?

Fortunately I have no plans to take my Brazilian Rosewood veneered Broadwood pianos to the USA.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Aug 2011, 06:21
In reality I'm just angry at that massive twat for making my favorite guitar company the laughing stock of the entire industry. Yes, I am bitter.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Aug 2011, 07:14
Yeah, legal woody practices aside Paul, Henry J has systematically ruined Gibson.

Case in point:

(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/feb09/gibson/holy-explorer-detail-460-100-460-70.jpg)

Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Aug 2011, 07:19
I see what you mean - even though I am not a guitarist!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Aug 2011, 08:00
That's not even the most ridiculous that has come out in the time since that blithering idiot took the helm. They've released at least 10 new models in just 3 years that no one in their right mind could ever want or need. Case in point: The Firebird X.

5600 dollars worth of so-called "innovations" that can be made completely obsolete by a 100 dollar Multi-FX pedal.

Also, their QC (no pun intended) really has gone down the toilet.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Aug 2011, 09:19
That's not even the most ridiculous that has come out in the time since that blithering idiot took the helm. They've released at least 10 new models in just 3 years that no one in their right mind could ever want or need. Case in point: The Firebird X.

Let's seeeeeeeeeeee.

-Les Paul Robot "Junior Special" (which was just a goddamned Special)
-The Eye
-Any number of CS Les Pauls that cost about $15,000 because they were aged by Tom Murphy
-the "Gothic Morte" series
-That Hendrix Strat which never came to fruition, praise allah
-Having two Joan Jett Melody Makers with two completely different price points when the only difference was finish
-Zoot Suit SG (I'm sorry, they are RIDICULOUS looking)
-Les Paul BFG
-Dusk Tiger

And Firebird X. That's 10!

What I really liked, and would work for me if it weren't all in stupid pastel finishes, was the LP Vixen. Two HBs, master volume and tone, back of the body contoured like a Strat.

(http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/36830_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 30 Aug 2011, 10:36
I will suggest that Gibson are a 50/50 company. Still keep knocking out the stuff they know sells and not tampering with it too much. Then the other 50% of it seems like ruining said sellers by making them have loads of fancy self tuning crap or having it reversed, or endorsed by a dead artist, or having holes in it, or attributed to a very much alive artist and charging through the roof for it. Anybody who saw the Sammy Hagar Les Paul (and now Explorer) will see my point.

Oh and of course ridiculous stuff like trying to sue PRS for making a singlecut guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 30 Aug 2011, 13:51
Gibson keeps appearing on "Worst places to work in he US" lists.  They treat their employees like absolute crap.  And, their heels still suck.
They don't care about the environment, they don't care about people, and they clearly don't care about taste.

I hope they get that guy out of there (or in jail), and start to turn the company around because I want to like Gibson.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Sep 2011, 17:45
That's not even the most ridiculous that has come out in the time since that blithering idiot took the helm. They've released at least 10 new models in just 3 years that no one in their right mind could ever want or need. Case in point: The Firebird X.

Let's seeeeeeeeeeee.

*snipped*
-Les Paul BFG

Don't hate it til you try it. One of those suckers through a Blues Junior is enough to tear your face off.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 01 Sep 2011, 18:40
I see what you mean - even though I am not a guitarist!
It is very ugly. I'm not a guitarist either, but I enjoy listening to people who are passionate about something talk about their passion. I've learned new things, and this forum has completely destroyed an ignorant snobbery toward electric guitars, of which I am now thoroughly ashamed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Sep 2011, 20:36
Yeah, instead of our snobs being ignorant, we're pretty well-informed here at least.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 01 Sep 2011, 22:54
 :-P
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 02 Sep 2011, 00:15
That's not even the most ridiculous that has come out in the time since that blithering idiot took the helm. They've released at least 10 new models in just 3 years that no one in their right mind could ever want or need. Case in point: The Firebird X.

Let's seeeeeeeeeeee.

*snipped*
-Les Paul BFG

Don't hate it til you try it. One of those suckers through a Blues Junior is enough to tear your face off.

Aesthetically speaking it is still a horrible, horrible thing though..


That said, I do like that Gibson brought back the Les Paul Jr.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Sep 2011, 07:23
That's not even the most ridiculous that has come out in the time since that blithering idiot took the helm. They've released at least 10 new models in just 3 years that no one in their right mind could ever want or need. Case in point: The Firebird X.

Let's seeeeeeeeeeee.

*snipped*
-Les Paul BFG

Don't hate it til you try it. One of those suckers through a Blues Junior is enough to tear your face off.

In all honesty I'd rather get the cheap-ass Guitar Fetish clone because at least they don't look like complete shit.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 04 Sep 2011, 10:41
That's fair. They do look pretty awful. But holy fuck, it's worth it. It is totally worth it.

Guys, my Jag's on consignment. Pour out your 40s for her. I'll miss you, Prudence.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: sean on 04 Sep 2011, 17:17
hey guys, who just bought a fender mustang?

me, i just bought a fender mustang. i finally fucking own my own guitar.

this is aweosome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 05 Sep 2011, 12:13
Needs pics, lots of them.  I want a mustang at some point.  They are tops.  I might order one from Fender Japan when I do, just for all the extra options they have.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Sep 2011, 17:20
Also, I'd pour out my 40, but I'm not sure what a 40 is and even if I was, I'm sure you can't get them here.

It is a 40oz bottle of beer, usually something like Mickey's or Olde English or something like that. PO' OUT DAT FO'TY
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 05 Sep 2011, 18:01
hey guys, who just bought a fender mustang?

me, i just bought a fender mustang. i finally fucking own my own guitar.

this is aweosome.

= my1st electric.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Sep 2011, 07:20
hey guys, who just bought a fender mustang?

me, i just bought a fender mustang. i finally fucking own my own guitar.

this is aweosome.

SEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN YES.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 06 Sep 2011, 07:58
They have a negative effect on your hairline.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/111/302084653_7b7ccd5e3e.jpg)
Or maybe that's just getting old, not sure.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Sep 2011, 03:01
Hey man it works for Jimmy Buffett and James Taylor and I approve

Alan Jackson too but he has that big cowboy hat on all the time
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 09 Sep 2011, 04:12
<----Explains the fedora, no?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Sep 2011, 14:34
There's a reason people have used microphones to record for the better part of a century. Shit works.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 09 Sep 2011, 17:18
You could always use what you have now to just get a scratch recording down if the sound isn't satisfying you. Create your masterpiece later when you can get a better arrangement going. I just have a spectacular talent for putting things rudely.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Sep 2011, 10:13
FUG.ly
(http://www.musictoyz.com/img201106/jbM.jpg)
But i don't know it has twin vag sound holes.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 10 Sep 2011, 14:30
Its like Paul Reed Smith vomited into an open wound.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Sep 2011, 15:23
kind of. Also I think Gold Hardware was proven to be a Geneva Convention violation. Maybe it's just a trick of the light?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2011, 06:48
FUG.ly <image removed in the interests of good taste>But i don't know it has twin vag sound holes.
The finish looks like the sort of toxic waste that would turn you into a mutant warthog if you touched it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 12 Sep 2011, 02:29
Oh god, the M-audio fast track is absolutely terrible. I got it for free and wanted to try it out today to put some post-rock tracks I'd been writing together.

Low low input level, no matter the setting.

If you then use a preamp, you brickwall it.
Any use of a tremolo effect or god forbid a Big Muff at any gain level is VERBOTEN. Brickwalling again.

Even when you play it clean and just up the gain in an audio programme it still sounds shit.
Suppose I'll just have to wait a week or two and mic up my amp.

Piece of tone-murdering shit.

Well... It's not made for that kind of thing, so it's hardly surprising it doesn't work that way. You should try getting some software like Amplitube or Guitar Rig. Maybe POD farm.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: jeph on 12 Sep 2011, 18:39
Just picked up one of those newfangled Ibanez RGDs. Really diggin' the sound, Ibanez has finally made a set of pickups that aren't absolute ass. And it's a Prestige MIJ model so it's built/set up as well as any of my Much Fancier Guitars.

Cristi also got one of those multiple guitar racks for my office.

It's kind of embarassing. This isn't even my entire collection.

(http://www.questionablecontent.net/random/SHAME.JPG)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Sep 2011, 18:50
Idunno man, you ever tried their ArtCore hollowbodies? Those things sound pretty ace.

Edit to clarify: I'm referring to their pickups. Decent PAF knockoffs, but combined with that big ol archtop box it's got... fapfapfapfap
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: CrowFairy on 12 Sep 2011, 20:50
So I won an acoustic guitar several years ago but haven't had the opportunity to learn how to play. I've settled on teaching myself using the Internet, my own intuition, and this program I bought for the computer last year but can't find. The only other instrument I've played before was the recorder in 4th grade like everyone else. :P

In other words, I have no musical knowledge built up, other than a vague idea of how sheet music works because of many years of chorus (from the time I learned how to talk until I was 13). But most of my musical ability is from pitch-matching, so sheet music is almost entirely foreign to me again. :/ I see strange letters, and they mean almost nothing to me. D: I don't really have an ear for it yet.

So here's my question: How do you learn to recognize what notes are what? How do you learn what strings are what? And more importantly... How the heck do you know if you're tuning the dang thing properly?? (Okay, so it turned out to be three questions. :P Sue me. :P)

I found a guitar tab for a song I'd like to learn, but a lot of it doesn't make sense to me. It says it's for novice-level players, but I don't know what these things mean, so I'm still pretty lost. D:

Edit: I'm starting to get a bit of a handle on things. I found a neato online tool if anyone's interested in help with tuning their guitars: http://www.howtotuneaguitar.org/
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 12 Sep 2011, 22:31
Wow, TWO Tom Anderson guitars.  How much is that new QC book again?  :-P

A new guitar shop opened up last year, across the street from where my old favorite closed down when the economy crashed.  They sell Andersons and those are some of the nicer guitars I have ever played.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 13 Sep 2011, 03:26
So here's my question: How do you learn to recognize what notes are what? How do you learn what strings are what? And more importantly... How the heck do you know if you're tuning the dang thing properly??

q1: Get a chart of which frets correspond to which notes (in standard tuning), found online here (http://all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php?qqq=FULL&scch=E&scchnam=Chromatic&get2=Get&t=0&choice=1)
q2: If you're in standard tuning, from low (pitch) to high, EADGBE
q3: If your tuner agrees that each of the strings is accurately tuned to the corresponding pitches above
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Sep 2011, 07:29
Hey Jeph, what's that bass in the back?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 13 Sep 2011, 13:39
Youtube is pretty invaluable in learning guitar these days.  There are videos you can use to tune to if you don't have a tuner, and videos on how to practice all different styles.  You can't replace a good teacher, but learning is only limited by you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: CrowFairy on 13 Sep 2011, 22:44
Wow, thanks, guys! I'm a little overwhelmed because I realized just how much I'm going to need to learn. D:

I don't have a physical tuner--are they worth the money? I'm not sure I can learn how to do it by ear, but there are a lot of things online that I can use to match the pitches as closely as possible. Are they a good enough substitute?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 13 Sep 2011, 23:16
no, go buy a tuner. it's like, 20 bucks.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 14 Sep 2011, 00:41
yeah, buy a tuner and use that until your ears can do it for you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Sep 2011, 05:46
Admission: It's probably because I don't pay in live situations, but I really can't ever justify spending $80-90 on a tuner pedal.

The little $15 handheld thing I have, sure.


edit: The TC Polytune does seem really, really cool, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 14 Sep 2011, 09:02
Snark SN-1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWJ2K8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=wago-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B003VWJ2K8), less than $10 on Amazon. Unbelievable value for the money.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 14 Sep 2011, 10:56
I think the only reason people actually use Boss' chromatic tuner pedal is because it's a convenient cutoff switch, too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Sep 2011, 11:21
And because it's true bypass instead of digital, if I'm not mistaken

and for that reason alone I am never buying another DigiTech product ever; I recently tried my HotHead distortion out again, and I've decided I'm not wasting batteries or sacrificing any of the tone I worked so hard at chasing.

I'll sell that shit for $20 if anybody wants to PM me
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 15 Sep 2011, 13:05
All Boss pedals, even their tuners, use a buffer followed by FET switching for their bypass.  It's hardly noticeable, but still there if you care.  I have a Turbo-Tuner ST-200 which is my favorite tuner I've ever used (Feels much more solid than those overpriced Peterson Strobostomps).  The TC Polytune looks perfect for live playing, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 15 Sep 2011, 15:31
My Boss OD-1 sounds significantly better than my DigiTech distortion unit does, and that's whether I bypass it or not. My old roomie just gave it to me because it's missing a knob, and I have no reason to find another distortion at the moment. Creamy as fuck when I place it ahead of my Tonebone in the chain.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 15 Sep 2011, 16:13
I have Boss' RC-2 and really like it! I played around with a few other loop pedals before picking it up and couldn't find anything better.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 15 Sep 2011, 16:26
Guys, just hold down the tuner button on your PODs. Duh.  :psyduck:
Wife uses the BOSS, but she only tunes prior to playing. It isn't plugged in line. I can only thing of 3-4 times either of us have had to tune during a show.
Usually from goofing around and knocking the guitars into eachother or the mic stand. An instrument that holds a tune through a couple hours is worth more than you think.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 15 Sep 2011, 18:46
I have left my Danelectro alone for months on end (it stays at home when I'm at university) and returned to find it perfectly in tune.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: CrowFairy on 15 Sep 2011, 21:33
Snark SN-1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWJ2K8/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=wago-20&linkCode=as2&camp=217145&creative=399369&creativeASIN=B003VWJ2K8), less than $10 on Amazon. Unbelievable value for the money.
Wow, I'll probably get that one--that's awesome. ^.^

I have one more question for now:
Fingers or guitar pick? What's the difference in usage? Is one better/more effective than the other? Does it matter which one you learn how to do first?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: celticgeek on 15 Sep 2011, 21:58
Fingerpick.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: CrowFairy on 15 Sep 2011, 22:28
=O You are so right. I didn't even think about that option. I'll definitely have to pick up a few of those. Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Zingoleb on 15 Sep 2011, 23:13
It really depends on what your goal is. Folk and more acoustic oriented music tends to have more interesting fingerpicking stuff, while almost everything else that's coming to mind tends to be dominated with people who use a pick. Personally, I fingerpick with everything I do. Your fingers will hurt for awhile - don't give up!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 16 Sep 2011, 00:33
There's also the option of hybrid picking, which involves using a flat pick between your thumb and fore, and your ring and middle fingers also pick at strings (with or without plastic finger picks).

Fingerpick.

To avoid confusion, there's the verb "fingerpick" which basically means plucking at the strings with your fingers and thumb (sometimes people refer to this as a 'clawhammer' picking method). Then there's the noun, which is what I assume you were referring to.

Distinctions, I makes them
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 16 Sep 2011, 02:37
Just go with a normal pick and strumming to begin with. Babysteps, m'kay!?

Besides, what do you want to play? Where do you want to go with it?
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Post by: celticgeek on 16 Sep 2011, 06:35
There's also the option of hybrid picking, which involves using a flat pick between your thumb and fore, and your ring and middle fingers also pick at strings (with or without plastic finger picks).

Fingerpick.

To avoid confusion, there's the verb "fingerpick" which basically means plucking at the strings with your fingers and thumb (sometimes people refer to this as a 'clawhammer' picking method). Then there's the noun, which is what I assume you were referring to.

Distinctions, I makes them

I meant the verb fingerpick, since that is what I do.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 16 Sep 2011, 09:56
Dear Squier,

You're putting out a J Mascis Jazzmaster, but your cousins Gretsch are putting out basically a $600 Duo Jet (it's actually the 'new' Pro Jet model):

(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/636/046/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77209.001_black_R.jpg)


There's also a new model called the "Club Jet" which seems to be a stripped down Pro Jet:

(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/636/042/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77208.002_black_R.jpg)

I've gotta get one of these. Whichever.
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Post by: Kwaping on 16 Sep 2011, 10:15
Do fingers and pick right from the start. Each has their place, and it's good to not get too set on one style right away. That's what I've done and it's working out nicely.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 16 Sep 2011, 16:45
Fingerpicking:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrtLxsqSic

Lindsey Buckingham, nuff said.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: CrowFairy on 16 Sep 2011, 23:42
Oh, geez, I'm tired, so I'm a little overwhelmed with your responses right now. I'll try to respond as best I can.

I have an acoustic guitar, and I just want to learn for fun. I don't intend to be a musician or anything, but I'd like to learn this skill for my own relaxation and to be able to say I know how to play a cool instrument and all that good stuff. I'll mostly be playing things that are either designed for acoustic guitars (like acoustic versions of songs and Beatles songs and other things in that vein :D).

My concern with playing with fingers is that fingernails are hard to maintain with things like that.

I'll definitely try a variety and see what works best with me. The friend I'm staying with tonight has some picks she's going to give me, so I'll see how that works. I don't really know how to orient my fingers with an instrument, so I'm nervous about that and all. We'll just have to see. :)

Thanks for the continued advice to a newb like me. ^.^
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Post by: Zingoleb on 17 Sep 2011, 01:14
I started out learning on Beatles songs. They're mostly pretty simple, easy stuff to play along to. It's a good place to begin!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 17 Sep 2011, 01:26
My concern with playing with fingers is that fingernails are hard to maintain with things like that.

This improves with time actually, very similar to calluses. I mean... I wouldn't take a French manicure to any Bert Jansch or Nick Drake or nothin, but if your protein intake is good you don't have much to worry about if you don't do your nails.

Besides, not gonna lie, I have a huge thing for ladies who play music (or, frankly, are gifted artists of any kind). Girls tend to have that same thing for guys who play music, makes sense to me that it'd go the other way around. Appreciation for music is something you can have in common that goes deeper than the appearance of your fingernails :D
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Sep 2011, 06:17
As a reformed 5 string banjoist, I have to say fingernails are both, not necessary and can get in the way. I can no longer comfortably wear the thumb and 2 fingerpicks I learned to play banjo with. But you might want to try those for a spin if you want more attack than nekkid fingers.
http://banjoteacher.com/Gear/Thumbpicks/index.htm
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Post by: CrowFairy on 17 Sep 2011, 11:07
The Beatles are my favorite band, so I'm pretty excited to get to learn how to play their songs. ^.^

Patrick:
I'll definitely keep an eye on my protein then--I'm a recovering ex-vegetarian (since last November), so I'm still getting back into the swing of things. I pretty much never do my nails actually, so that's a good thing. ^.^

Hehe, excellent. >:3 There's actually a group of guys who sit outside the main eating place on campus and play guitars, so maybe I can get to know them. ^.^ Lol, true. I just have OCD, so I'm just hoping they won't get torn up or anything. :P I'm also a worry-wart. XD I should stop worrying about things like that.

And thanks, doombilly! Those look good. I'll probably have to get the child-size, though. :/ I have super-small fingers. How does sizing run on them?
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Post by: Regress on 17 Sep 2011, 12:22
As a classical guitarist I play exclusively with my nails, and can't stand the tone that playing with the actual finger gives. Beyond that using a file to change the slope of the nail gives you a lot of control over the tone you get while playing, and allows for more expression. But about the protein intake I wouldn't really worry about it, I'm a vegan myself, and as long as you remember to file your nails routinely they will be perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 18 Sep 2011, 14:28
There are sm, med, lg thumb picks. I used to get the big clear dobro picks. The 2 metal fingerpicks are sized by thickness, you just squeeze them around you fingers.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Sep 2011, 10:13
I've liked what I've heard briefly of the newish Fender Champ 600s, but anyone have one?

I'm being offered one as a trade for my vintage MXR Distortion+, and my gut, brain, dick, everything are saying "uh duh dude, get it".

edit:

Now I'm also being offered a shell pink Jazzmaster body for the pedal. I have visions of a tortguard and my white witch hats and oh god WHAT DO I DO.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Sep 2011, 12:20
He'd be including a guard, plus I can use the neck/electronics from my Jagmaster.

All I need are a bridge, tailpiece (which would be a custom $40 piece from Paul Rhoney), and pickups. I've heard good things about the GFS ones, and they're only $33 or whatever a piece.

And then when the time comes, toooooooort.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Sep 2011, 12:25
For the time being yeah I should just get the amp, hey?
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Post by: Lummer on 20 Sep 2011, 00:38
Oh hey look what I bought!

(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/302639_10150312227558559_586053558_7827476_1951758059_n.jpg)

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Post by: IDMG on 20 Sep 2011, 01:41
I'll admit to thinking of that company as a bit of a joke, but looking at the specs of that particular guitar, it actually seems pretty good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Sep 2011, 07:12
Nah dude. The guy modded the amp to add a tone control. That's happening.

Also happening: I'll be here and there buying a few JM parts, and then come spring or if I get some money come xmas, I'll get the body and go from there.

btw, before I left for work today, I spent a good bit of time with my new Muff clone and my Tele tuned down a full step. GOOD LORD.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Sep 2011, 07:29
btw, as a tube amp noob, he said he's shipping the amp with the tubes out..is that a hard process to put them back in?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 20 Sep 2011, 08:57
Super easy to put the tubes back in. Personally, I would ship with the tubes in, as there's not much that can damage them in shipping that wouldn't totally destroy the rest of the amp. But whatever, an abundance of caution is not a bad thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: greenMonkey on 20 Sep 2011, 09:03
What constitutes a 'newish Champ 600'?  I have one from three or four years ago, I think.  I like it, but I wish it had a better speaker.  The stock one is not very good.  It does make awesome noises when I crank it all the way up, going through the high gain input with my Boss Super Overdrive completely dimed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Sep 2011, 09:22
Newish meaning yes, the same version you have, and not the original two-tone Champs.

And yeah, I've heard the speakers are so-so. I may end up snagging a Weber or something.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Sep 2011, 09:28
not much that can damage them in shipping that wouldn't totally destroy the rest of the amp.

Because he's shipping USPS and one time, according to my neighbor, upon delivering a t-shirt, the mail carrier just chucked the package from the sidewalk onto my porch.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Sep 2011, 10:23
Yeah, the Webers are $30 for a ceramic magnet 6" and $45 for an AlNiCo 6". Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Sep 2011, 14:59
Amp = here.

Amp = rad.

That is all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Sep 2011, 05:44
Haha, don't remind me. Someday, I do plan on upgrading to a proper Silverface Champ.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Sep 2011, 17:51
(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/615/694/DV016_Jpg_Large_H76278.001_trans_black.jpg)

RRRRRGHHHH WANT.
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Post by: Bearer on 27 Sep 2011, 00:41
Hey all, this has probably come up before but this topic is fuck-long.  Does anyone have experience with Xavier guitars from Guitar Fetish, specifically this one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/XV-910-Semi-Hollowbody-Alnico-Dogear-P90s-Gloss-White_p_1657.html ?

I've always wanted a hollow body and this thing seems pretty awesome for the price.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Sep 2011, 05:37
I guess most of them need a decent set-up out of the box, but they're pretty good for the dollarage.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Sep 2011, 09:03
btw, before I left for work today, I spent a good bit of time with my new Muff clone and my Tele tuned down a full step. GOOD LORD.

btw, I have a tech question. Same situation, but now with the Champ. Why does the Muff suddenly sound all raspy and spitty?

(I solved this by turning the treble on the amp down and throwing the tone on the Muff to 12:00, but..?)

I mean it's a cool sound, but I like the full, dark throaty roar better.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 27 Sep 2011, 16:27
Hey all, this has probably come up before but this topic is fuck-long.  Does anyone have experience with Xavier guitars from Guitar Fetish, specifically this one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/XV-910-Semi-Hollowbody-Alnico-Dogear-P90s-Gloss-White_p_1657.html ?

I've always wanted a hollow body and this thing seems pretty awesome for the price.  Thoughts?

I fucking love my Xaviere Guitar, but a warning from the internet says that returning gear you don't like tends to be a hassle.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 27 Sep 2011, 16:42
Also +1000 for a white semi hollow gtr with no fucking gold hardware.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 27 Sep 2011, 22:24
Hey all, this has probably come up before but this topic is fuck-long.  Does anyone have experience with Xavier guitars from Guitar Fetish, specifically this one: http://store.guitarfetish.com/XV-910-Semi-Hollowbody-Alnico-Dogear-P90s-Gloss-White_p_1657.html ?

I've always wanted a hollow body and this thing seems pretty awesome for the price.  Thoughts?

I own a black one.  It needed a LOT of work out of the box.  The bridge was barely screwed in on the thumbwheels, the nut is made of cheap plastic, and the set up was terrible.  I ended up changing the bridge to a wilkinson roller, adding a bigsby, installing a graphite nut (Gibson pre-cut are drop ins) and doing a full set up.  I also replaced the knobs for aesthetic reasons, and replaced the tuners with grovers.  The original tuners, while OK, would probably have been sketchy with the bigsby.  Also, the strings that come on it are garbage.  They will cut you; don't try them, just replace them.

After all that, it's a pretty nice guitar.  The p90s are incredible, the action is good, and the fret job was perfect. That said, I don't find myself playing it much, and lean toward my Sheraton and Hagstrom Viking. (The Viking isn't really a fair comparison, though, as it's a little outside of the "budget" guitar range).

Here's my .02- you'll likely need to replace the nut for about $40, and to get a set up for between $30-90.  That puts this guitar in the $330-$400 before the case.  (Their black cases are cheap and AMAZINGLY well built, by the way).  After the case, we're at $400-$470, plus shipping.  At that kind of money, I think you'd be happier with a used Sheraton; or, if you want the p90s, a used Casino.  Plus, if you find it's not for you, the resale on an epi is much higher and easier to accomplish.  There are other alternatives below that range that are also very nice, including the Hamer Echotone, Peavey's JF series, the Washburn HB30, and the Ibanez Artcore AS series.  Or, you can save up a little more, and get a solid semi-hollow like the Viking or the higher-end artcores, etc.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Sep 2011, 02:34
Also +1000 for a white semi hollow gtr with no fucking gold hardware.

Basically if you don't agree with this then you suck and you probably stomp puppies into mush and force feed it to kindergartners.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 28 Sep 2011, 14:44
Fuck nickel/chromeplated stuff, man. I use black hardware for everything (except gold, which I also like an awful lot).


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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2011, 07:36
Fuck nickel/chromeplated stuff, man. I use black hardware for everything (except gold, which I also like an awful lot).

There's something wired wrong in your brain.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2011, 10:34
So "knobs" then. We're not talking knobs.

WE AIN'T TALKIN BOUT KNOBS, WE TALKIN PRACTICE.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Oct 2011, 05:07
Fuck nickel/chromeplated stuff, man. I use black hardware for everything (except gold, which I also like an awful lot).

There's something wired wrong in your brain.

There's a lot wired wrong in my brain. Be more specific.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Oct 2011, 08:07
Well, if you insist, it's the fact that you don't like chromed hardware or Fenders.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Oct 2011, 16:08
Well, if you insist, it's the fact that you don't like chromed hardware or Fenders.

I like jazzmasters and jags despite the fenderyness. When I get to building one it'll definitely have black hardware and a double-locking trem on it, though.  :|

Also, I apparently now own a 5150 head. Now I'm gonna have to get a cab too.  :psyduck:

edit: I did own a strat for a few months, but it really wasn't my thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Oct 2011, 16:31
Yeah but what were you even doing with a Strat in the first place, those things blow ass unless you are Jimi Hendrix or Mark Knopfler, there are no exceptions
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Oct 2011, 06:51
Yeah but what were you even doing with a Strat in the first place, those things blow ass unless you are Jimi Hendrix or Mark Knopfler, there are no exceptions

Uh, I tuned it down to A standard/ drop G# and stuff (and pretended i was Yngwie for a while, that didn't go well). Then I traded it for something way more awesome.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Oct 2011, 07:49
Also, a jazzmaster with a double locking trem should be considered heresy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Oct 2011, 09:17
Well yeah, but if Fender can get away with pissing on their legacy, so can I.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 02 Oct 2011, 09:38
That was on my mind too, but Gibson make it way too easy to joke about 'em.

I love Gibson- and Fender-styled instruments, but not the companies themselves. I'd take a G&L or Heritage over those brands any day.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 02 Oct 2011, 16:28
just ordered a nobles odr-1

and a deluxe reverb to go along with it... : )
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 03 Oct 2011, 01:37
I went Big Spender Crazy over this weekend. I bought:

- BOSS RV-5 Digital Reverb pedal
- BOSS OD-2 overdrive, old beat-up thing.
- EHX Full Double Tracking Effect pedal. (Apparently some sort of really fast, single-repeat slapback delay meant to simulate doubletracking. Should be interesting to fool around with!9

- Fender Esquire-style tele pickguard, white.
- Strat pickguard, single hum, single Volume.
- 4 500k pots
- 2 input jacks
- Black tele style bridge for humbucker
- Chrome hipshot hardtail bridge, which I'm planning to put on my Tele.
- 2 sets of Gotoh Vintage-style tuners.
- An extra neck for my Tele.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 03 Oct 2011, 06:57
Also, I apparently now own a 5150 head. Now I'm gonna have to get a cab too.  :psyduck:
I have a 5150 combo. They are awesome amps. Mine has not been on since I got tha Orange TT/Avatar setup.My wife did not like it though. But I am totally ok with that since she bought my citrusy goodness amp rig.

So my fellows, a bit of sage advice from the doombilly.

If you are going to marry your bass player. Make sure he/she is the picky type that will ask you when you are dealing with your broke ass hand-me-down gtrs/amps what you "really need."

Also Mark Bass makes some solid @#$% bass gear. Although spending hours trying to make a 1x12" combo and additional 1x12 speaker cab sound like an ampeg SVT + 8x10 might be lunacy. I suppose if you use a pick and play round wounds it wouldn't be as hard.

Now a question: Is my mom's ex-minivan more or less punk rock than the 1990 F250 Diesel?
Heated seats are trüpunx, right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 03 Oct 2011, 09:08
Even though I am a big diesel fan, a hand-me-down minivan is probably the truest punk-rock transportation possible.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 03 Oct 2011, 15:11
Even though I am a big diesel fan, a hand-me-down minivan is probably the truest punk-rock transportation possible.
Yeah, nice and (sub)urban. An F250 has more of a C&W vibe... ;)  Though F250s and F350s are kind of awesome in a monster-truck-madness sort of way (They were sold in Aus until... the mid-2000's I think).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 03 Oct 2011, 16:05
We make plenty of diesels in America! We just happen to put all of them in trucks. That doesn't stop me from being a huge fan of the technology, though. The BMW 335d is a fantasy car of mine, though way too expensive.

Back on topic... tuathal, what is it about Strats that makes them better at finger picking? Is it just the fretboard radius (which is not unique), or something else?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Oct 2011, 16:17
I think there's a VW Jetta diesel as well, but yeah, it's pretty much all trucks over here.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 03 Oct 2011, 17:06
hey guys, on pretty much any amp i've tried i notice the bass give out really quickly at the higher volume settings -- the speaker seems like it's fluttering inside the cabinet. Does that make sense? It sounds like ass and I'm guessing it's user error, but it could just be that I'm cranking all the amps too hard.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Oct 2011, 17:45
So...I talk a lot about wanting to build and never do, but I realize I could pull this off using existing stuff for under $350:

(http://www.vintageandrare.com/uploads/products/12953/65433/original.jpg)

PLUS

(http://www.gbase.com/files/store_images/gear/2157886/p1_uqfnhkkj5_so.jpg)

EQUALS

well..No one's ever made one, imagine a Swing-bronita.

But Warmoth makes a 25.5" scale, rear routed Swinger body. You go from there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Oct 2011, 04:59
Swing-bronita.

Doo eet. Swingers are sexy, La Cabronitas are sexy. You're bound to get great results, uh, or at least results. Maybe.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Oct 2011, 05:00
better than a jazzmaster, tele

Nope.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Oct 2011, 08:34
Swing-bronita.

Doo eet. Swingers are sexy, La Cabronitas are sexy. You're bound to get great results, uh, or at least results. Maybe.

I've been having serious Cabronita GAS lately. I saw both a normal and reversed ("Borracho") JM shaped one built on OSG, and a P-Bass version from the Custom Shop, figure I might as well go original as well.  Once that money from the Red Sox tickets comes back, I'm going to get the neck and start this up.

The original idea in my head was Strat shaped, but Swingers are WAY fucking cooler. I'm planning on snagging an un-routed white Mustang guard when I get the body from Warmoth and cutting it down for added effect.

edit: Just because I could use input here..what do you guys think re: color? I'm leaning towards something nearish Surf Green, and just putting a really light coat on with no clear, so it'll wear hard as it gets played.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 04 Oct 2011, 09:05
Regarding diesels, we have a few diesel cars here, we just don't make them here. That was the distinction I was making. :)

Regarding color for the Swingerita, I like your Surf Green idea, but how about a thin black undercoat? The wear on that should be pretty sweet.

EDIT: Or how about black over surf green?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Oct 2011, 09:09
I've already got two black guitars, so I'd rather go a little different. Green over black might work cool, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Oct 2011, 09:13
Other possible idea: something close to Inca Silver:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v681/genelovesjez/incasilver.jpg)

Just remembered I actually have a hardtail bridge and flat-top Tele knobs sitting around, so there's like $25 bucks I won't have to spend. I think the bridge is topload only, though.

Finish aside, here are my specs for the Swingbronita (it sounds more ridiculous than Swingerita, sorry):
-GFS amber finished Strat neck, maple fretboard (someday I'll throw a proper Fender 'stock on it)
-GFS Nashville Retrotron mini-bucker
-250k pots
-Fender-style old school tuners (I've never used split-shaft before, that'll be a fun one)
-Body will be poplar, rear-routed, and cut for a side jack, and volume and tone knobs
-single play Mustang guard that'll be chopped down more into a Cabronita-ish shape and sun-aged (provided it ever, ever stops raining)
-Apparently a topload hardtail bridge, though the body will be drilled string-through (eventual upgrade)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 04 Oct 2011, 10:09
I dunno about 250k pots for a humbucker though, that's bound to get really muddy. Go for 500/550k.

Inca Silver is pretty cool, although sonic blue, surf green or shell pink would be the tits.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 04 Oct 2011, 10:34
The F-2fiddy does have a serious C/W vibe. Cuz it's a LARIAT XLT. But yeah, the topper kind of leaks.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b4WLF-VqPfs/SvUGU3c0b_I/AAAAAAAALzs/l0HxYthjZ70/s288/DSCF0855.JPG)
I will keep it though. When we have to bring EVERYTHING teh Mercury Monterrey aint gonna cut it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 06 Oct 2011, 10:31
Yeah but what were you even doing with a Strat in the first place, those things blow ass unless you are Jimi Hendrix or Mark Knopfler, there are no exceptions

Heresy. I basically am Mark Knopfler, so to hell with your Strat snobbery!

(If I'm honest its a pretty nice 50s Reissue and only cost me £250 and was the first upgrade from my beginners guitar and is sunburst and pretty lovely. The neck seems thinner than a lot of other Strats and Teles that I've played. But I'm never going to NOT want a Mustang or Jaguar, sadly)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Oct 2011, 10:32
I don't see why the Modern Player line is getting so much flak, have you SEEN the Thinline Tele?

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/fender/images/products/guitars/0241202539_frt_wlg_001.jpg)

That is PERFECT in pretty much all conceivable ways, including the $449 price tag.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Oct 2011, 11:01
Holy cuntshit, a semi-hollow Tele with P-90s. I'M SOLD
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 12 Oct 2011, 13:34
That looks interesting, indeed. What are the naysayers nay-saying?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Oct 2011, 14:20
That looks interesting, indeed. What are the naysayers nay-saying?

The naysayers are bitching that they're made in China and have the Fender name.

Also because there's a Marauder in a the series that doesn't look like either of the prototypes from the mid 60s. I don't see the big deal, they were prototypes. There was never an actual production model.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Oct 2011, 15:04
I certainly prefer Japanese guitars to american ones. China has been producing really high quality guitars for a while now as well, just look at the entire semi-hollow Ibanez line.
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Post by: Kwaping on 12 Oct 2011, 16:41
It's my understanding that Fender uses Squier to test the manufacturing capabilities of a factory (country). Once they are up to snuff, the are allowed to manufacture Fender-brand guitars. Apparently, China has been deemed good-enough.

Can I start being snooty about my MIM strat now?  :-D
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Post by: Bearer on 12 Oct 2011, 18:30
I'm just going to leave this here for you gents:

http://www.fender.jp/products/ (http://www.fender.jp/products/)

Fender Japan is so awesome.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 12 Oct 2011, 19:08
Dude, even I know that.
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Oct 2011, 09:18
The dorian mode. It is fucking wet sex with three supermodels of ambiguous gender.
Also, I like guitars.
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Oct 2011, 09:28
Actually, dorian mode sounds kinda awkward and uncomfortable after that description.
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Oct 2011, 09:49
I certainly prefer Japanese guitars to american ones. China has been producing really high quality guitars for a while now as well, just look at the entire semi-hollow Ibanez line.

Yeah, I still want that trans-black stripped down 335 thing they just came out with, YOW.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Oct 2011, 15:54
Also because there's a Marauder in a the series that doesn't look like either of the prototypes from the mid 60s. I don't see the big deal, they were prototypes. There was never an actual production model.

The big deal: it looks like shit and has a pretty retarded triple-bucker in the bridge. What the fuck, Fender, are you Paul McCartney and Vox now? GTFO.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Oct 2011, 15:58
(http://media.fmicdirect.com/fender/images/products/guitars/0241400502_frt_wmd_001.png)

I see no point in having a triple-coil pickup when you're just gonna put a 3-way toggle and a single volume and single tone. Just put a humbucker in there and stop pretending you've come up with some neat innovation

Most importantly, FUCK YOU
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Post by: IDMG on 13 Oct 2011, 18:20
It's actually a 5-way selector switch that lets you toggle which coils on the Triplebucker you're using.
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Oct 2011, 21:23
I see no point in having a triple-coil pickup when you're just gonna put a 3-way toggle

It's a five-way. The fucking dumb part is that you can't select neck JM pup + bottom two coils as bridge pup. It's JM, JM + inner coil, inner coil, inner + middle, middle + outer (bridge HB).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Oct 2011, 02:50
My issue: There's 7 possible pickup configurations with a triple-coil pickup, sure. Then double that (and +1) by adding the JM pickup to any of the other ones (with the +1 as JM by itself). 15 possible combinations and you're limited to 5?

Why couldn't they put a bunch of little two-way toggles there (one for each coil) and a 3-way between triplebucker and JM? It's not like they don't have a similar system with the Jag, and it would be a less convoluted wiring setup.

I'm mostly annoyed that Fender isn't even trying to come up with something truly new and exciting. Recycling prototype names from 50 years ago? Check. Recycling prototype body shapes from 50 years ago? Well, they compressed it horizontally, but that body's basically the same Marauder otherwise, so fuck it, check.

Gibson and Fender both have the laziest design departments ever. Gibson because all they ever do is poke holes in shit and make R2-D2 tune 'em for you. Fender because they can't even do THAT; Vox beat them to triple-coil humbuckers by at least 4 or 5 years.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 14 Oct 2011, 03:52
Ibanez made some models with triple-coils in the 70's. Kramer probably made some in the 80's as well.

The point is, it's unnecessary and sounds like shit.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Oct 2011, 04:37
I'm telling you, Fender need to hire me to be head of R&D.

All you motherfuckers would be playing Duo-Sonics again.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Oct 2011, 11:43
Send them the pic I drew up for you of that reverse Jag-Stang idea you had. For y'all's reference, it looks fucking awesome:

(http://i.imgur.com/CDrvl.jpg)

I'm still a little weird on the ergonomics around the upper frets, though. I'd like to alter that shit just a little bit. Still, if we post that to OSG, watch 'em speem everywhere.
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Post by: Radical AC on 14 Oct 2011, 11:57
As far as the Marauder goes http://www.biltguitars.com/ seems like a cool concept.  It has built in delay and fuzz.  The damn thing self oscillates!
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Oct 2011, 14:19
This was my drawing based on Patrick's idea. It's a little dark, but fuck you.

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/Mobile%20Uploads/downsize-14.jpg)
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Post by: Bearer on 17 Oct 2011, 23:42
Guys, guess who just got a 60's Univox U-45b tube amp?  FOR FREE!
Along with a an old fender 2X12 cab that has some weird spraypainted logo that says "Oak Heart" on the back.

This Univox is so hardcore it has a 2-prong power cord. 
In all seriousness I am either going to learn how to mod the fuck out of this thing to make it playable, or find an amp guy who'll repair it for me cause it needs a lot (new pots, new tubes, new output jack, an actual fuse, new power cord, etc...).  I'd feel pretty shitty for selling this thing (considering 1. It's awesome and 2. my friend didn't really know what it was when he gave it to me), and I've been wanting a small all tube amp for a while.  I'll get pics up when I get a camera, so, sometime?  Possibly.  Basically it's this:

(http://www.univox.org/pics/amps/u45b.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2011, 10:01
Oh dear god. Those U45s are supposed to be insanely good amps.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Oct 2011, 14:00
That is neat-o.
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Post by: Kwaping on 21 Oct 2011, 12:44
Anyone getting Rocksmith?
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Oct 2011, 13:01
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/310481_304272392933139_187248314635548_1232743_1669461087_n.jpg)
http://www.mjguitar.com/
edit...don't seemt o have those models on their site.
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/Daily/News/MJ_Guitars_Introduces_the_GrooveMaster.aspx
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2011, 14:11
No me gusta. They look like they were designed by a bassist.
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Post by: Kwaping on 25 Oct 2011, 14:50
So I came into some money and went on a pedal binge... I started off with my guitar -> boss bd-2 -> amp, and ended up with this:

guitar
fulltone 70
monsterpiece scratchy snatch
bd-2
rc-30
amp's preamp
cmatmods deluxe signa comp
cmatmods deeelay
solidgold fx surf rider
back to amp

Woo! Just had to tell someone.
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Post by: Akima on 25 Oct 2011, 15:57
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My first thought was of those Salvador Dali melting watches. I'm not sure that's a good thing.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Oct 2011, 16:12

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That's actually pretty hot.
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Post by: Radical AC on 25 Oct 2011, 16:21
Man, I've been saving up for new pedals.  I need to get that Timeline/Space combo, but it costs about a grand for those two alone.  I'm also getting a ss/bs Fuck, a Dr. S Cosmichorus, Lightfoot Labs Goatkeeper, and Frequency Central Sonic Death Ray Phaser.  I'm also saving for a Dunwich Wizard amp.  (Totally baller guy makes them)   Should be summer by the time I'll be able to have them all...
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2011, 20:22
fulltone 70

Jealousy, I has it.
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Post by: Kwaping on 26 Oct 2011, 10:00
Thanks valley! Even better, I got it used in as-new condition. Woot!

I finally understand the whole "each fuzz is different than the others, and you will want them all" thing.
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Post by: IDMG on 26 Oct 2011, 11:42
I should invest in a new fuzz. My Swollen Pickle is hard to get a good sound from (but when you succeed it's amazing).
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Post by: Kwaping on 26 Oct 2011, 14:48
The sad thing is, I think I'm discovering that I'm more of an OD guy than a fuzz guy. :/ And I really can't figure out the benefit of delay.
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Oct 2011, 21:06
Speaking of OD, I got my Nobels ODR-1 in the mail the other week! It is my new favorite thing in the whole world. It's now the default sound in my signal chain -- no matter what else is on or off in my collection, that thing is always going. I highly, highly recommend getting one of these things.
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Post by: IDMG on 27 Oct 2011, 00:08
What would you compare it to in terms of sound? The look screams "Tube Screamer" and I honestly don't like that sort of OD pedal.

Also,
:/ And I really can't figure out the benefit of delay.

It can add ambience, rhythmic repeating effects, thicken your solos at lower delay times and act as a sort of ghetto harmonizer. But, I think it's one of those "less is more" deals.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Oct 2011, 05:30
Yeah, delays always seemed cool sounding when I was playing by myself. It just made my sound less coherent with a full band. But now that my drummer is basically locked down to a static bpm and my pedal allows me to also dial that in and specify a delay or mod note value, I'm finding these time based effects more useful. Usually the bass player will make a face and tell me to turn that crap off and play the guitar. Sometimes she asks for it though. /tmi
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Oct 2011, 10:40
Delay is great for sounding like the Edge.

So it pretty much has no useful purpose is what you're saying.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Oct 2011, 16:05
(http://mlkshk.com/r/8QO1)
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Oct 2011, 16:30
What would you compare it to in terms of sound? The look screams "Tube Screamer" and I honestly don't like that sort of OD pedal.

You can hear for yourself here (http://proguitarshop.com/nobels-odr-1-overdrive.html). Playing through an SG and a Deluxe, I've noticed a big change in the lower-end breakup register, especially on the lower drive & spectrum settings.
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Post by: Lummer on 27 Oct 2011, 23:55
Delay is great for sounding like the Edge.

So it pretty much has no useful purpose is what you're saying.

I use my two delays and the reverb to sound like feedback coming from the grim and frostbitten forests of Norway. Delay can be versatile!
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Post by: Kwaping on 28 Oct 2011, 09:13
Speaking of spring reverb...

http://zerotronics.com/coolsprings/index.html

WANT.
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Post by: Radical AC on 28 Oct 2011, 14:35
Christ, $550 for that?  It's more than the Eventide Space.  A big reverb unit might be fun for home playing, but it isn't as versatile as some board friendly pedals.  Neither, is it very gig friendly.
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Post by: Lupercal on 28 Oct 2011, 14:41
Delay is great for sounding like the Edge.

So it pretty much has no useful purpose is what you're saying.

 :mrgreen:

but delay is fun to noodle with, I can just never really construct a note pattern that sounds any good with it.
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Post by: leftandleaving on 31 Oct 2011, 00:07
Okay, so I've had the same guitar (a MIM Fender Strat with a humbucker at the bridge) since I first started learning guitar 7 years ago.  It worked out well because I just wanted to play punk music and it sounds great distorted.  Then I started learning jazz and it was okay at that because it's got a pretty jazzy clean tone and it sounds fine.  But now, my needs are no longer being met by my guitar.  My band plays a mixture of post rock-y echo-y pretty music and pretty aggressive post-hardcore.  My guitar is absolutely the weak link in our sound; the clean tones are too tinny and bright to sound pretty and the distorted tones aren't deep enough to sound powerful.  I figured it was my amp, so I bought a classic, used Randall tube amp, but it just sounds worse.  I'm thinking either new pick-ups, some kind of equalizer pedal/pre-amp, or new guitar entirely, maybe you guys have some ideas for how to go about fixing this problem.
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Post by: Lummer on 31 Oct 2011, 00:52
Just stick a new pickup in the bridge and you're golden.
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Post by: Melodic on 31 Oct 2011, 13:19
more buckers! need at least 4 in that fucker
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Post by: doombilly on 31 Oct 2011, 13:19
So my wife is not a fan of my guitar effecterizations. And last night we did a mini prac after the big afternoon prac to work on new stuff. Just plugged that old MIM '95 Tele str8 into the Tiny T. Dialed up slightly more gain then I usually use and it sounded quite nice. I know, no surprise. But
I was amazed how good of a sound I got playing lightly (even fast strumming)- but lightly enough so it still sounded clean. And just laying into it when I wanted more volume/distortion. It's that red Tele I changed the bridge out on last yr or so.\(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fOvM3mrxvDI/S1yX56E1L5I/AAAAAAAAOk8/cVZOxqP0gpo/s288/IMG00289-20100124-1352.jpg)
I'm almost considering phasing out the POD eventually.
Also whatever numbnuts owned my (new to me but) older Parker NFV1 wiped it down with something stupid because the 2nd fret came off. Searching for someone not a moron to glue it back on. Guy who normally works on it is not making me feel confident. The Nitefly V1 is like a Strat (SSS). Also due to the carbon fiber wrapped fingerboard/neck frets are glued on. In case what stupidity I was going on about was not clear.
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Post by: leftandleaving on 31 Oct 2011, 19:59
How are you supposed to find the pick-ups you want when all anyone wants to do is recreate Metallica tones?  I don't even know where to start, anything I look at that isn't Metallica-ready is "great for that SRV tone."  I don't want to sound like SRV or Metallica.  What it do.
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Post by: greenMonkey on 01 Nov 2011, 02:17
http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=humbucker-pickups
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Post by: Lupercal on 01 Nov 2011, 05:10
Yeah but now you need an aging stooge to help you put out new material that sounds like something you recorded with your dad 6 years ago drunkenly.

Anywho

I haven't looked at this thread for a while but BAM:

(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/oct11/J%20Mascis%20Jazzmaster-660-80.jpg)

This is Out Now (http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/search.php/?partno=0301060541) and costs just over £300. For a Jazzmaster. And is better in every possible way than the previous strat-jack ugly as sin things that Squier brought out a while ago.

I AM EXCITE

Haven't read any reviews so far but I'm sure they're around.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Nov 2011, 10:57
Jeez, what do people have against basswood? It's not like the "alder" they could get at that price would be any higher quality.

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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Nov 2011, 15:39
Man, they could probably have used poplar. It's usually a bit cheaper than basswood too, so they could put a decent trem on it for once. (Insert trollface here)
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 01 Nov 2011, 16:45
Tape; truly the finish of kings.
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Post by: Lupercal on 01 Nov 2011, 17:49
Would it be anything to do with J's wants for the guitar?

I've been playing guitar too long to still not really care about woods. Its probably that I can't really afford to care.
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Post by: theoryC on 01 Nov 2011, 18:05
I just bought an Epiphone Dot as my first guitar! :O
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Nov 2011, 07:50
I just bought an Epiphone Dot as my first guitar! :O
Congratulations, TheoryC!

Yeah, I can't be really very snobby about wood. Lessee...
MIM 1995 Tele ?body / maple neck
Indonesian Yamaha AEX500, Nato body and ? neck
USA Fender 1978 Mustang, some crazy heavy (not Alder body possibly oak, maple neck w/ rosewood fingerboard)
USA Parker NiteflyV1 1996 maple body, basswood neck
USA Parker Nitefly M 2006 1 piece mahogany body, mahogany neck

The Yamaha is the only non solid body. It's full hollow, but thin. It's meant to be an electric you can play unplugged. But I have to say Nato must suck pretty hard as a tone wood. But that works for me bc if I'm playing it I'm usually trying to keep it at a low volume. Also mini humbucker neck, piezo bridge. I recently switched back to roundwounds but mostly due to I bought the wrong sized flatwounds the last time.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Nov 2011, 08:15
Yeah, I've got basswood and agathis guitars, who am I to woodsnob?
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Post by: celticgeek on 02 Nov 2011, 08:35
Kremona Orpheus Valley FC guitar:

Woods used: 

Solid red cedar top
Solid Indian rosewood back and sides
Honduras cedar neck
Indian rosewood fingerboard, bridge and headstock
Indian rosewood tuning buttons

I love the way it sounds.

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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Nov 2011, 11:12
I just bought an Epiphone Dot as my first guitar! :O
Congratulations, TheoryC!

Yeah, I can't be really very snobby about wood. Lessee...
MIM 1995 Tele ?body / maple neck
Indonesian Yamaha AEX500, Nato body and ? neck
USA Fender 1978 Mustang, some crazy heavy (not Alder body possibly oak, maple neck w/ rosewood fingerboard)
USA Parker NiteflyV1 1996 maple body, basswood neck
USA Parker Nitefly M 2006 1 piece mahogany body, mahogany neck

The Yamaha is the only non solid body. It's full hollow, but thin. It's meant to be an electric you can play unplugged. But I have to say Nato must suck pretty hard as a tone wood. But that works for me bc if I'm playing it I'm usually trying to keep it at a low volume. Also mini humbucker neck, piezo bridge. I recently switched back to roundwounds but mostly due to I bought the wrong sized flatwounds the last time.


My MIM Tele has an alder body, so yours is probably the same.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 02 Nov 2011, 16:40
I'm not sure what my acoustic is built of, I'm going to have to look it up.

Spruce top, nato back and sides, doesn't say anything about the neck. This is still the best-sounding acoustic I've ever played, especially given that it's probably only worth a couple hundred.
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Nov 2011, 10:33
I just bought an Epiphone Dot as my first guitar! :O
Congratulations, TheoryC!

Yeah, I blah blah blah

My MIM Tele has an alder body, so yours is probably the same.
Cool. It has taken some fairly hard whacks and keeps on going as my steady backup date. I was hoping for something more Mexican, like petrified drug lord victim or compressed agave worms. :)
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Post by: Bearer on 06 Nov 2011, 07:18
Just found a place that specializing in western red cedar, so that means my dream project will come to fruition after all! Maple neck Western Red Cedar topped Black Walnut semi hollow jazzmaster with a p90 neck pickup and firebird minihumbucker bridge with a bigsby.  UNF.
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Post by: Lummer on 11 Nov 2011, 01:16
Someone fairly close to me has put up a Squier 51 for sale, for peanuts.

Should I?
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Post by: Lupercal on 11 Nov 2011, 02:21
Yes.

Essentially no downside to those guitars whatsoever.
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Post by: Chad K. on 11 Nov 2011, 03:31
Those 51's are cool.  They were huge with modders right after Squier ended production.  Check out http://www.instituteofnoise.com/Squier51/forum/default.asp. Even if you don't like it, one of the thousand or so rabid fans there will pay good money for them, so no harm in investing. 
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Nov 2011, 04:48
Do it now, do it sooner than now.
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Post by: Kwaping on 11 Nov 2011, 08:49
Make sure the price is right, as they are not impossible to find.

http://goo.gl/UR219

Local deal is definitely a bonus, though.
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Post by: Lupercal on 17 Nov 2011, 16:43
Ridiculous that they were about £100 to buy online, and Squier just ended the line. They could re-release it with a higher price tag (say, £200-£250) in the vintage-reissue series or whatever they're called and still have a great reception. Probably the best guitar Squier will make in a long time.
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Nov 2011, 10:09
They could re-release it with a higher price tag (say, £200-£250) in the vintage-reissue series or whatever they're called and still have a great reception.

You say that as if it's not exactly what they're going to do.
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Post by: valley_parade on 18 Nov 2011, 14:20
Would be all over a Vintage Modified series '51 if they made it with higher-quality bits than the original '51.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Nov 2011, 15:28
Doot-de-doot. 
http://youtu.be/_aS7mxp7S40
http://youtu.be/hQukQZ4NGQs
http://youtu.be/hleL0QFlebg
3 videos we did at knoxivi.com yesterday.
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Nov 2011, 15:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBSs3-RfLKk

Good song, interesting equipment. Not really loving the video overall, but whatever.
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Post by: ESKIMO ROBOCOP on 18 Nov 2011, 18:49
anyone having trouble getting to OSG? i know they were hacked recently and that all got resolved ok, but now when i try them i get an "acount suspended" page and thats it?  :psyduck:
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Nov 2011, 07:18
Yeah, shit is boooooooorked. It's been up and down since they got hacked. Sigh. Boredom, we gonna be friends again I guess?


edit: it's back up
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Nov 2011, 18:19
http://www.ampeg.com/products/gvt/gvt15h/
(http://www.ampeg.com/images/gvt15H_FRONT.jpg)
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Nov 2011, 20:06
It's good to see you being made again, old friend. And so inexpensive! I missed out on these the first time, will definitely be getting one this time around.

(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/672/925/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77032.003_lake_placid_blue.jpg)
(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/672/902/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77032.002_3-color_sunburst.jpg)
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Post by: Lummer on 22 Nov 2011, 01:37
Shit.. This dude with the 51 still hasn't sold it, and has dumped the price. Meanwhile I ended up buying expensive vinyl on our mini-tour over the weekend. Shiiiiiit!  :psyduck:

Seriously, he's asking less than 200 dollars for it. (Just calculating it into a more well-known currency for youse guys..)
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Nov 2011, 06:12
Yeah, the new Cyclones are $179 (apparently a Fender Japan import for Musician's Friend and Guitar Center). Kinda funny seeing that the original Squier run were $199.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Nov 2011, 08:38
I like that blue.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 22 Nov 2011, 08:55
I am very interested in that Ampeg and those Cyclones!

This thread is like TGP for poor people.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Nov 2011, 12:11
I need to change the wiring on my Avatar 2x12 to be able to isolate it into 2 1x12s. Then I could have the TT on one side and the Ampeg on the other. And well my guitar IS stereo... Then curb feelers and a spoiler.
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Nov 2011, 12:33
Oh hey btw Lummer, >200 for an original '51 is a pretty decent price. Make that happen.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 22 Nov 2011, 13:13
Doombilly, I heard that two amps running into one cabinet is mostly bad juju. Something about frequency cancellation or something. I have a 2x12 cab with two 8ohm inputs, so that idea occurred to me as well. :(
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Post by: leftandleaving on 22 Nov 2011, 14:52
So, my birthday came and I got money.  Then I bought this motherfucker.

(https://www.soundsplus.co.uk/storage/shop2/items/2143-1.jpg?c=2)

Yes.

Fake edit: and with a HS case, all for less than $600!
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Post by: Kwaping on 22 Nov 2011, 15:48
Nice! Happy birthday! I also did the transforming-birthday-money-into-guitar-gear thing this year. :)
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Post by: Lupercal on 23 Nov 2011, 00:37
It's good to see you being made again, old friend. And so inexpensive! I missed out on these the first time, will definitely be getting one this time around.

(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/672/925/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77032.003_lake_placid_blue.jpg)
(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/672/902/DV016_Jpg_Large_H77032.002_3-color_sunburst.jpg)

Holy Jimmeny shitballs.

WHY Squier, J Mascis Jazzmaster now these? Do you want me to just throw money at you?

I'm very, very interested. I hope that some British sites get these up soon, if they're US only I'll be pretty annoyed.
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Post by: Lupercal on 23 Nov 2011, 00:43
Well according to OSG dudes they are a Factory Special Run, so most likely US only. Damn.
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Post by: Chad K. on 23 Nov 2011, 04:44
So, my birthday came and I got money.  Then I bought this motherfucker.

(https://www.soundsplus.co.uk/storage/shop2/items/2143-1.jpg?c=2)

Yes.

Fake edit: and with a HS case, all for less than $600!

I bought the standard in tobacco burst a few years ago.  It is easily my favorite guitar.  Hagstrom makes some of the easiest playing, most original sounding, most amazing looking guitars ever.  Normally, I tinker with guitars that I buy.  Almost all of them have the nut changed, or the pickups swapped, etc.  I have never wanted to change a single thing on this beast.
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Post by: Kwaping on 23 Nov 2011, 09:42
Okay, I really want a __________ now, fuck you guys.

QFT. :)  Teh internetz are in mah wallet, spendin' all mah monay.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Nov 2011, 10:30
Doombilly, I heard that two amps running into one cabinet is mostly bad juju. Something about frequency cancellation or something. I have a 2x12 cab with two 8ohm inputs, so that idea occurred to me as well. :(
Oh I am pretty sure it would cause some phase issues/be a dumb thing. My Avatar has 2 inputs but that is to piggyback cabs, not to plug into two amps. Honestly I cannot say 1 bad thing about ye olde TT.

And have cursed both of my wife's ampeg heads routinely. Granted nothing sounds better for bass than an SVT blowing into the 810 cab. But the 4Pro hybrid she had before sound different every day. This SVT has been through 4 preamp tubes, the fan is in a idiotic place that you have to take all the power tubes out to get to it. And I need to because their bullshit manufacturing has caused it to either shift or come loose from the mount. It rattles like hell. You have to give it a fonzi smack. Also EVERY FUCKING SCREW in the bottom of the head started backing out on their own. This thing has never been moved w/o the road case. Also the ampeg cabinet, all the bolts to the caster wheels were not screwed in tight so they started coming out. The tolex is thinner than baby skin. I wrap the cabinet in a rug to move it, yet it still manages to get scraped to the bare wood no matter what. Every one of these I've seen there are huge rips in the tolex. I know the weight of it is an issue (175lbs) but they could do something to improve the skin. A roadcase is out of the damned question because then it'd be BIGGER and HEAVIER and I am already too danged old to be hossing it. :D /rantpeg

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Post by: valley_parade on 23 Nov 2011, 13:54
Well according to OSG dudes they are a Factory Special Run, so most likely US only. Damn.

Dealer exclusive in America, but standard Japanese market model/finishes.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Nov 2011, 07:43
I'm guessing the ampeg just resonates at the right frequency for the screws to loosen. Try playing an octave higher :P
Given the thunder emanating from bassist on that rig, despite playing w/ only fingers and on flat wounds... I considered that. But I think it more likely they did a sh&t job at the factory of turning screws. I put some good old fashioned crank on said simple machines. We'll see if they start coming back out. If so, I guess it is a just a regular maintenance chore.
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Post by: Lupercal on 24 Nov 2011, 16:12
Well according to OSG dudes they are a Factory Special Run, so most likely US only. Damn.

Dealer exclusive in America, but standard Japanese market model/finishes.

Yeah, think they're still on eBay (the older FSR models anyway, some nice Duo Sonic/Mustang colour schemes). More than $200 though. I'm hoping we'll see them over here anyway.
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Post by: Lummer on 25 Nov 2011, 00:31
Suddenly, a wild MIJ Jackson hardtail appears!

It's super tempting!
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Post by: Lupercal on 25 Nov 2011, 09:13
If you didn't buy the '51, spend your dollaz on the Jackson? But hardtail?
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Nov 2011, 10:05
If you didn't buy the '51, spend your dollaz on the Jackson? But hardtail?

Tuning stability is great and you can always use a whammy pedal.

What does that have to do with anything? A Wah isn't exactly the same as a trem, you know.

And my RG's laugh at your tuning stability argument.  :-D


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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 25 Nov 2011, 11:39
Don't worry. I get it.

Also, I now own a new bass, huh.

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Post by: Lupercal on 26 Nov 2011, 02:53
Such a teasing thing to say - you know the rules. Pics, specs, sexual attraction.

And a whammy pedal, yeah thats nice and all but nothing quite like divebombing. I just expect Jacksons to have Floyds, I guess.
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Nov 2011, 04:57
Oh yeah, it's one of these:

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6Kz8MyrkNUr5aw8EI7JaRttoQyr1FEGjMp_q9h5aXaXEe148hig)

The (sadly discontinued) Schecter California Custom 5
Got it for 25% of the new price, and it's in (literally) mint condition.
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Nov 2011, 11:53
<---- this guy is a "Total Douchebag"
http://t.co/ReygueSE
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Nov 2011, 13:03
What do these fucking morons have against 7-strings?!  :x
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Nov 2011, 16:09
I have a Standard. I'm not a douche!
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Post by: NotAFanOfFenders on 26 Nov 2011, 20:03
So that list is from a vintage-freak/indie-dork perspective?

subjectivity, ain't it great? :-D
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Post by: Lupercal on 27 Nov 2011, 02:09
Why is the Steinberger so douchebaggy?

I mean sure its the most 80s guitar ever but its still pretty COOL

Agree with Dean Razorback (think thats what its called), Ibanez JEM, Billy Gibbon's Gretsch...

Disagree that double-neck SG is a "girlfriend stealer" or that the Tele is so above the Strat.

What is the last "Saint Stephen" guitar?
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Nov 2011, 06:13
I think it is that turdy looking guitar Jerry Garcia played. Custom built and when he died the crator and the family got in full douchebaggerry over ownership.
http://www.strawberrywalrus.com/ebay/tigerguitar5.jpg
&
http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-05-09/news/17544721_1_garcia-guitars-grateful-dead-doug-irwin

EDIT
http://dozin.com/jers/guitars/tiger/info.html

Not sure why this is so "Saintly." Moar like "Prissy."
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Nov 2011, 08:27
O'm pretty sure the pre-amp was just a complicated version of "you can put your weed in here."
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Nov 2011, 11:33
I work for the govt so mine just has a place you can keep you put your Fishmans in.
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Post by: Melodic on 27 Nov 2011, 15:34
new danos are ugly as fucc but the baritone is amazing.
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Post by: leftandleaving on 27 Nov 2011, 23:58
Okay, do people have reverb pedals here? I want a reverb pedal and when I look online at reverb pedals the reviews are either "this things is bullshit" or "this thing is the bomb-diggity."  So far, I'm stuck between the EHX Cathedral and the TC Hall Of Fame.  The EHX has got infinite, reverse, and a whole lot of shit, but the TC has got better sound and is cheaper, according to most people.  Then there's the RRR, the WET, the Verbzilla, the RV-5, and about a million others that people bring up.

What do you guys do to make the echos and shit.
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Post by: Lummer on 28 Nov 2011, 00:14
I have a BOSS RV-5 and I'm pretty happy with it. I like the TC Hall Of Fame a bit better though, but I got a good deal (30% off) on the Boss. Plus, you can't quite beat the sturdyness of BOSS pedals.
That said, My TC Flashback and Nova Repeater Delay pedals have survived for quite a good while now, so it's not like that TC stuff is flimsy, at ALL!
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Post by: Kwaping on 28 Nov 2011, 10:35
Reverbs: What are you looking to get out of it? Meaning, versatility or just one really freaking good sound?
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Nov 2011, 14:39
Oh man, I just got 300 euros and now I want a hofner galaxie or a Gretsch jet junior II or or or or...

..Or I could eat for the next month.

What guitar should I buy, guitar thread?

Dude get the Galaxie!
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Nov 2011, 15:20
I GASed after one for a while. All I know is that they look super cool.
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Post by: Kwaping on 29 Nov 2011, 08:48
FWIW, I love concentric tone/vol knobs. Big fan.
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Post by: leftandleaving on 29 Nov 2011, 11:08
Reverbs: What are you looking to get out of it? Meaning, versatility or just one really freaking good sound?
I mean, the ideal would be a pedal that can make really good simple reverb sounds, but also have the capability to do a lot of other, crazier things.  For instance, I really like the infinite mode on the cathedral, but I've heard people complain about the different effects sounding "sterile" (whatever that means), so it satisfies the cool factor, but might not satisfy the simple factor.  I don't have the money for two reverb pedals, but that's pretty much what I want.  Damn, you wallet!

Oh, also, I've been looking at this fuzz pedal for a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efplyS_9BBo and the more I watch this video, the more I want it.
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Post by: Kwaping on 30 Nov 2011, 09:13
I really liked my Hardwire RV-7 reverb pedal. Cheap, easy to find, does some neat stuff, and pretty good sound. I only gave it up when I realized I don't want a versatile reverb, I just want a really F-ing good spring reverb. I'm still looking for "the one", will probably end up with a boutique stand-alone tank of some sort instead of a pedal. FML.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2011, 15:27
I've heard about a lot of people doing that with the Hot Rods. Maybe once I get settled into my new place and get some money banked I'll try it.

Or just get one of those sole-mate pedals.
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Post by: Melodic on 30 Nov 2011, 19:14
Oh, also, I've been looking at this fuzz pedal for a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efplyS_9BBo and the more I watch this video, the more I want it.

Just tried this at my all-time favorite guitar store ever, and it is definitely a killer pedal. It's pretty cheap ($170CDN), well-made, hand-wired, etc. But I couldn't get the cleaner tones that that demo illustrates out of it -- playing with a coiled Tele into a Deluxe Reverb, all I could really get was shuddering, poorly-defined chugga-chugga. Try it out before you buy!
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 Dec 2011, 09:12
I'm a fan of Monsterpiece fuzzes, myself. Cheap and well-constructed. I have their Scratchy Snatch and it kicked a new Fulltone '70 off my board with no regrets.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Dec 2011, 09:43
Oof, really? I've been eyeballing the new '70s pretty close.
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 Dec 2011, 15:54
Don't take that as saying there is anything wrong with the '70 - there's really not! It's well-built and sounds great. But the Monsterpiece SS is also well-built (by hand, by one guy), can do the same sounds as the '70. You can also generally find them for cheaper than the Fulltone stuff on the used market, due to the lack of name recognition. Not only that, it can do a variety of sounds that are not available with the '70. And, to top it all off, it has external knobs for two bias pots that are usually internal if present at all!

http://monsterpiecefuzz.com/

"All of the transistors are socketed in my creations leaving you free to experiment. You can also contact me for customizations such as socketed capactitors."

"There are no one trick wonders here.  The relationship between the controls allows for a tonal pallet as wide as your imagination."

"All of my pedals have been engineered from the ground up for maximum tone. I have spent years refining the circuitry for optimal fuzziness."

I can tell you that is not marketing b.s.!
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Post by: Lummer on 02 Dec 2011, 01:00
Now, this past monday the speakers in my Randall 4x12 went and died on me. I'm gonna buy a new cab in any case, but just for shites and giggles I figured I'd have some fun with the randall one. What I'm gonna do is install 4 of these:

http://www.monacor.dk/produkter/hoejttalerenheder-pa10-12/vnr/103310/

As you can see, the impedance is the same, and at least to my ears, the specs don't look that dissimilar to a regular guitar speaker. The kicker is though, that it says it's used for "Bass purposes" in PA's it seems. Through the company I work for, I'll be able to buy at faaar below half price, effectively letting me buy a whole set of 4 for less than the price of one Celestion V30, eg.

Your thoughts on this lads? Personally, I think the idea is just daft enough to maybe work.
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Post by: Kwaping on 02 Dec 2011, 09:47
At the price you're paying, it seems like a no-risk proposition. If they don't work out you should be able to sell them for what you paid, or even turn a profit.
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Post by: doombilly on 06 Dec 2011, 15:24
http://mlkshk.com/r/A4U3
Patrick? Why come U no tell us about the double neck mosrite?
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Dec 2011, 15:58
I think that's because they make them in such tiny quantities that they're more than likely all handmade, and also, importing from Japan, WHY YOU HEFF TO BE SO EXPENSIVE?

Mosrites are ridiculous, though. Damn.
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Post by: Lupercal on 08 Dec 2011, 00:44
So yeah. I know all I do in this thread is essentially say "wow, look at that Fender!" and want to spend my money on it, but anyone heard of the "Modern Player" series?

Marauder:

(http://uploads.fender.com/news/fender/778/MP-Marauder1.jpg)

Modern Player Jaguar:

(http://uploads.fender.com/news/fender/778/MP-Jaguar1.jpg)

They've got some sweet looking Teles and basses too: http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/modernplayer/search.php/

Oh, and the Marauder is under £350, which I think is pretty impressive.
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Post by: IDMG on 08 Dec 2011, 02:37
The Marauder is okay. The triple-bucker sounds better than I thought it would. I like the Blacktop Jaguar better than the Modern Player Jag.
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Post by: Liv on 08 Dec 2011, 03:44
The red one looks pretty.

Sorry for going off on a tangent, but I was just wondering, how difficult is it to teach yourself guitar if you know nothing of reading tabs and stuff but you know basic music theory? And would anyone know any sites that teach beginners? I'm too cheap to get a teacher.
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Post by: Lummer on 08 Dec 2011, 03:57
If you know basic music theory, you can learn tabs in a heartbeat.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2011, 05:16
The MP Jag interests me because I'm a sucker for really stripped down P90 guitars.

The Marauder though, they could have done so much better.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Dec 2011, 07:23
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand Parker (US Music Corp) are fixing my 15 year old (backup) guitar for nothing (shipping). Considering they did not even own Parker when this guitar was made and it is under no kind of warranty, that is amazing.
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Post by: Lupercal on 08 Dec 2011, 09:59
The MP Jag interests me because I'm a sucker for really stripped down P90 guitars.

The Marauder though, they could have done so much better.

Its quite cool, similar to how a PRS Soapbar looks I guess.

Whats wrong with the Marauder though? Do you think they should've kept the Jag switches? My small research into the guitar tells me that it never really looked like what we're seeing, but it had "stealth" humbuckers that never got beyond the prototype stage.

Also, I looked at Godin's today. Bad choice. I think they're awesome.

GAS. I has it. For just about everything! (it has probably been about 2 years since I purchased anything large [even a pedal] in the guitar department)
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Dec 2011, 10:45
Yeah, I guess my main issue is the pickup/switching. The body shape isn't too bad, but I'd rather see some more I dunno, typical offset electronics. Maybe like a Mustang or something.
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Post by: Lupercal on 08 Dec 2011, 14:01
The Marauder II was more like a Jaguar I think

The more I look at it the weirder the body shape appears to be.
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Dec 2011, 09:22
Dang Jeph.
http://pic.twitter.com/KGi27eH7
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Dec 2011, 00:02
Daaaaaaaaaang...
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Post by: Lummer on 14 Dec 2011, 00:03
Also, who got a new awesome-as-fuck old Marshall JCM800 1982 model 4x12 cab?

This guy. This guy right here.

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/383047_10150453119968559_586053558_8429439_1615372765_n.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 14 Dec 2011, 05:47
Son, I fought in the big war commonly refer to as "the 80's." Don't trivialize it by comparing it to those petty squabbles the Lame Stream Media call's "World Wars." Pffft.
 :psyduck:
Next someone is gonna say something like Stalin was worse than Cinderella or Kajagoogoo. And I'm gonna go NUTZ. Gallipoli had nothing on ZZ Top's Eliminator album.

HEHdit
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2011/12/hear-10-seconds-from-every-hit-song-of-the-80s.html
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Post by: Lummer on 16 Dec 2011, 00:54
Ok, so I finally had the time to use the cab yesterday. Holy fuck it is LOUD!

400 watts of God cock-slamming the Himalayas, fuck yeah. Now I just need a new head.
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Post by: IDMG on 20 Dec 2011, 17:24
I played a CIJ Strat with a set of EMG single coils yesterday at a guitar center.

I must have it.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 21 Dec 2011, 13:35
I didn't feel like resurrecting the pedal thread, but I just scored a Dirty Little Secret v.2 off ebay. This fucker is never leaving my board.
Also, more pedals need a "rawk" switch on them.
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Post by: Melodic on 21 Dec 2011, 15:08
I thought the MkII had the rawk/rock switch removed in favor of a few tone knobs?
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Post by: Zingoleb on 24 Dec 2011, 22:27
So I've got an offer to play for tip at a really nice bar/restaurant downtown, only I need to get an acoustic pickup and an amp. I have no idea what sorts of things are decent or not 'cause I've pretty much primarily played unplugged acoustic all my life (except when sitting in on a song where I'll just step in with a borrowed guitar, or whatever), so...

1) What's a price range I should be expecting to pay for some decent gear? Would $150-200 be too little?

2) What would be good to get in that range?
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Dec 2011, 10:47
You could certainly get a guitar for that price (150-200). I'd hit Craigslist. I would expect to spend about $500 for amp/gtr etc...
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Post by: Zingoleb on 25 Dec 2011, 12:14
No, I have a guitar. I'm just looking for a pickup and an amp to play it through.
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Post by: Radical AC on 25 Dec 2011, 19:14
How loud does it need to be?  A piezo pup will sound closest to your acoustic, but if you are playing at a place with a PA a nice instrument mic may work out better.

My dad got me a Boss FS-6 for xmas claiming he had no idea about guitar pedals and just picked one out.  He gave me the receipt in case I wanted to exchange it-which I might do for a t-rex power supply.  I still have my DeVille switcher so I wont need the FS-6, but dads can be pretty cool.
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Post by: Melodic on 25 Dec 2011, 20:21
Somehow my dad found me an RE-201 Space Echo, in mint condition, with all its heads in working order. I'm fucking flabbergasted but it sounds amazing.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 25 Dec 2011, 22:52
Are you going for a purely acoustic sound or will a magnet/coil pickup do just as well as a piezo for your purposes? Depending on what you need there may be various options.

Keep in mind I know absolutely nothing about pickups, so I have no idea how to respond to this. I had to go look up what a piezo is because I've never heard of it before. What's the tone difference between a magnetic pickup and a piezo? To be honest, I'm not necessarily looking for perfect tone right now, mostly just amplification.

How loud does it need to be?  A piezo pup will sound closest to your acoustic, but if you are playing at a place with a PA a nice instrument mic may work out better.

About as loud as an unamplified piano. There's no PA insofar as I'm aware.
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Dec 2011, 01:22
Piezo pickups get stuck somewhere on the surface of your guitar and measure vibrations, which gets you a more "acoustic" sound that takes into account all the things that make acoustic guitars different, like wood and chambering.

Magnetic coil pickups are (on acoustics) wedged in the sound hole and record string vibration just like an electric guitar. It sounds a little less unique than a piezo on acoustic instruments but it's way easier to install.

If you're looking for something quick and dirty (it sounds like you are), I'd get a cheap acoustic magnetic pickup and then get busy looking for a teeny tiny Roland amp that'll make enough noise for you.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 26 Dec 2011, 02:16
That was my general plan but I wanted to ask people who knew more than me (you guys). Thanks!
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Post by: doombilly on 26 Dec 2011, 05:22
this
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Dec 2011, 23:55
Got done with a little project here during christmas:

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404646_10150473910093559_586053558_8498316_744779485_n.jpg)
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Post by: IDMG on 29 Dec 2011, 00:19
Bought a pedal board kit from Planet Waves that makes 5 cables. I can buy two 3-packs of patch cables from them for half the price.

Is custom cable length and gold plated connectors enough of a benefit to justify staying with the kit rather than getting my money back?
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Post by: doombilly on 29 Dec 2011, 10:09
That really just depends on how much you need the custom cable lengths. The gold tips really, I don't think you'd ever notice a difference. Also depends on your needs. Are you playing live a lot? If so, my one word is: MOGAMI.
There sh*t is expensive but when I feel like a problem is developing, nobody asks what it is when I walk into GC and walk out with a new one, free. Save the pkging and recpts. Also Monster cables suck. MOGAMI price at the lowest quality imaginable.
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Post by: IDMG on 29 Dec 2011, 11:50
Oh, I'm never falling for Monster cable again.

And I don't have the money to replace all 7 of my patch cables with Mogami.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Dec 2011, 05:33
Are they just patch cords to go between pedalseseses? Then I'd opt for the (2) 3 packs unless the lengths are irritatingly too long or too short. You are going to lose more 'fidelity' between pedals that gold tips are not gonna make much of a difference. Also when they crap out (and they will) you don't have to blame yourself for putting them together. Some 3rd world Catamites will get the blame. (I had to look that one up, Jeph). Also, I've had a lot of coffee that was very strong this morning. So maybe I'm not even typing this. I can't tell anymore.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Jan 2012, 07:41
You guys are all about Kauer, right? Turns out he just started posting some of his new work on OSG:

(http://www.pbase.com/dkauer744/image/140635226.jpg)

A Neil Young inspired Firebird, finish by Josh from Protocaster (http://www.protocasterguitars.com/).
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Jan 2012, 10:03
To be honest, I like their homebrew finishes better -- that matte one looks like spraypaint.
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Post by: Bearer on 02 Jan 2012, 11:46
That is a beautiful guitar.  Makes me wonder if it has a switch to bypass all the knobs like Neil's does...  Also, P90 + Mini-humbucker is awesome.  That's what I'll be doing for the next guitar I put together, if I ever get $900 that is...

EDIT: Incidentally, how would you all feel about a Bass/Amp combo where the Bass is hooked up to the amp via XLR cable.  The Amp itself would power the Bass's active electronics through the XLR's third wire, and would allow you to choose between different active voltages.  Just an idea I've been toying with in my head.
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Post by: RyanPm40 on 02 Jan 2012, 21:03
(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/295/415/DV016_Jpg_Large_517885.832.063_ash_mp.jpg)

Got one of these and an Orange Crush practice amp a little before Christmas as a mixed Birthday/Xmas gift. I absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 03 Jan 2012, 12:46
Oooh, the ash bodied Standard? Good haul, Ryan!

Has anyone else had reaaaaally slow shipping with Guitar Fetish before? I ordered some stuff on the 27th, shipped on the 28th, and according to USPS it's been in Nashua, NH since the 29th.

Normally, if I order small packages from the Boston area and ship via USPS Priority, it's there the day after it ships. Not sure why on earth it was re-routed up to Nashua.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 03 Jan 2012, 15:46
I thought the MkII had the rawk/rock switch removed in favor of a few tone knobs?
The v.2 and the MkII are two different pedals. The V.2 is basically the original DLS but works better as a stand alone overdrive instead of a boost/tone foundation pedal. And it has a switch on the inside that will basically turn it into a v.1. The MkII is the newest model with the tone knobs. From what I hear the're not as good as the older models.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 08 Jan 2012, 05:35
https://twitter.com/gigcamz/status/155949209995051008
Johnny Marr talks about his signature Jaguar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 08 Jan 2012, 09:14
I've decided my TC Electronics Nova Repeater is the best thing ever.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 09 Jan 2012, 05:33
Oooh, the ash bodied Standard? Good haul, Ryan!

Has anyone else had reaaaaally slow shipping with Guitar Fetish before? I ordered some stuff on the 27th, shipped on the 28th, and according to USPS it's been in Nashua, NH since the 29th.

Normally, if I order small packages from the Boston area and ship via USPS Priority, it's there the day after it ships. Not sure why on earth it was re-routed up to Nashua.

That's weird, but it sounds like a USPS issue, not guitar fetish.  I bought a guitar from them and it was to my door sooner than their estimate.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 09 Jan 2012, 08:44
I've decided my TC Electronics Nova Repeater is the best thing ever.

Wow, that does look awesome! Surprised that hasn't been on my radar before now.

I'm such a gear whore, I really should lrn2play. :/
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 09 Jan 2012, 09:29
That's weird, but it sounds like a USPS issue, not guitar fetish.  I bought a guitar from them and it was to my door sooner than their estimate.

I emailed them, and they had the same guess. They said they'll be getting a hold of USPS for me, so hopefully I can slap some single coils in this bitch soon.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 09 Jan 2012, 21:22
So, I don't have pics yet, but I got the greatest Christmas gift ever from the parents and my girl. They gave me money toward a guitar and I picked up... a 1992 Gibson ES-350t.  It is the most beautiful, wonderful, semi-hollow guitar ever. I'm currently getting a partial refret, a setup and I'm having the bridge pinned.  Already played out at a show, and I'm in love. It looks almost exactly like this stock photo-

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm316/chadkaffer/es350t_full.jpg)

There are two small rough spots above the pickups where p90s once rested, and the truss rod cover says "Big Beautiful Doll."  Apparently the prior owner was a swing and jump blues kind of guy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 10 Jan 2012, 08:52
Gorgeous guitar!!! Congrats! :)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Chad K. on 10 Jan 2012, 12:21
Thank you, sir.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 10 Jan 2012, 23:28
The Rig:

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxjosaPLbj1r9ly9uo1_500.png)

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxjotiogCG1r9ly9uo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 11 Jan 2012, 15:31
Do all your pedals have boy's names too? :wink:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 11 Jan 2012, 22:50
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/387368_10150485647547775_675982774_9058072_1719160092_n.jpg)

Well, I like it anyway.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 12 Jan 2012, 09:32
That's a fine lookin' Strat ya got there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 12 Jan 2012, 18:30
It's Japanese made from 1994. The EMGs may or may not stay. They don't agree with my fuzz factory.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 13 Jan 2012, 09:48
Fuzz factory > EMGs. Good call.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 13 Jan 2012, 12:35
On that note, what would be a good replacement that's still noise canceling? I like the Dimarzio Injectors, but I'm sure there's something just as good but cheaper out there.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jan 2012, 17:52
embrace the noise
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 14 Jan 2012, 12:59
Surfer Blood playing a Kauer Daylighter Jr. on Fallon (http://beatsperminute.com/media/watch-surfer-blood-miranda-live-on-fallon/). Guess that means Kauer sold out????
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jan 2012, 13:45
I think it means that Kauer sold a guitar to a guy from Surfer Blood.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 14 Jan 2012, 14:30
good call bro
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 15 Jan 2012, 23:25
Wall of doom:

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/382705_10150521878683559_586053558_8691624_223504467_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 16 Jan 2012, 05:53
Only a fraction of that stuff was/is mine :/
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 16 Jan 2012, 08:07
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Os5IHBaS7Dw/TC1BQrtgaRI/AAAAAAAAA0w/0nN_EZssfEI/s1600/GiggityGiggity.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 16 Jan 2012, 09:21
I think it means that Kauer sold a guitar to a guy from Surfer Blood.

Oh yeah hey fun facts that you learn by reading OSG:

Doug Kauer and Paul Rhoney are sharing a shop in California now. The imagined collaborations are giving me the most normal boners right now.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 16 Jan 2012, 15:35
On that note, what would be a good replacement that's still noise canceling? I like the Dimarzio Injectors, but I'm sure there's something just as good but cheaper out there.
I personally would just get regular single coils, but if you have your heart set on noiseless then Lace Sensors are the way to go.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 19 Jan 2012, 10:41
Gack.
(http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/jan2012/auto-tune-maxxfly-660-80.jpg)
Not a giant fan of the new breed of Parker Flys but they all look cool in White. In other disturbing guitar techno news, these can come with the antares auto tune feature. I'm not sure, but I think that is likely ridiculous.
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/namm-2012-auto-tune-maxxfly-guitar-from-antares-and-parker-525314
In related ME news, I got word from Parker (who is graciously fixing a 15 yr old Nitefly I bought used) that there was more fret damage and that it will be 90 days before they send it back to me. Good thing I got my trusty 2006 to take to the studio next month.
Also. Also.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pN4sEVRRax8/TxNzVxtNm0I/AAAAAAAADWA/2hACfAhkMjU/s600/parker_dfmv7gg.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 19 Jan 2012, 20:16
How did I live without a tremolo pedal? (really need to stop spending money)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 20 Jan 2012, 00:26
That 7-string Parker does indeed look VERY nice. If it's regular Parker quality, it's definitely going to be a strong contender.

Also, I don't like Whitechapel but HOLY GODDAMN THEIR SIGNATURE MODEL FOR 2012 ARE AWESOME!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 20 Jan 2012, 04:06
Yeah, I mainly posted the 7 for you Lummer. :D
They have really revamped the line. The weakest link thus far appears to be the cheap toggle switches. I've never had a problem with any of mine. But I think it is confusing because they have different models of the now re-dubbed Maxxfly. Also they are moving the factory, I'd give them a year or so.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 20 Jan 2012, 16:46
Psssst guys it's NAMM weekend:

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i17/brianeharmonjr/50thAnniversaryJaguarDomesticedit.jpg)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i17/brianeharmonjr/KurtCobainMustangedit.jpg)

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0301250550_frt_wmd_001.jpg)

(I am most likely getting that three hundred dollar piece of awesome)

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0301220557_frt_wmd_001.jpg)

(http://resources.ibanez.com/resourceservicehost/images/Ibanez/web/eg/products/DN300BK.gif)

(http://resources.ibanez.com/resourceservicehost/images/Ibanez/web/eg/products/M8M.gif)

(http://www.espguitars.com/images/news/new2012/Eclipse-IISD.jpg)

(Gretsch much, ESP?)

(http://www.schecterguitars.com/Telerik.Web.UI.WebResource.axd?imgid=859f47b8e8a6484db171107dbc9d9830&type=rbi)

Danelectro are also releasing another version of that awesome-as-fuck square "Pro" thing and a Hodad reissue, but I can't find pictures. I might have to get the Pro over that Telebeastamajig, I loved the last RI of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 20 Jan 2012, 19:39
weird seeing anything but my dano with lipstick tubes.  :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 21 Jan 2012, 06:14
(http://bobmartin1111.com/Silvelectro/FlySilvelectro_1.JPG)
Any pig can wear lipstick. :D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 21 Jan 2012, 07:35
The one that apparently refuses to show up in my post is Schecter's new Hellcat six-string bass, which features SD Jaguar pickups, and a Jag control plate with individual on/off switches.

http://schecterguitars.com/Products/Guitar/Hellcat-VI.aspx
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 22 Jan 2012, 14:20
(http://www.parkerguitars.com/images/stories/instruments/basses/pb123tb.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 23 Jan 2012, 11:38
Gotta say, that bass is not helping argue against my "Parker makes really ugly guitars" stance.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 23 Jan 2012, 13:52
--never mind I misunderstood you.--
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 24 Jan 2012, 12:39
So I got around to buying Catalinbread's Manx Loaghtan Fuzz, and I'm pretty happy with myself. In essence it's a hand-wired Big Muff with a Baxandall tone circuit instead of the Muff's single tone knob. It's a much more versatile pedal than the Muff is, with way more clarity and a butter zone as wide as the tone knobs can turn. Whereas my Muff Pi tended to get sludgy and muffled doing arpeggios, the Loaghtan cuts thru the dirt on most settings. In my case, I've been throwing it through a massive reverb and creating distorted soundscapes, and it does the job perfectly. Only gripe? Fucking side-mounted power jack. Annoying as hell to daisy-chain.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 24 Jan 2012, 12:57
Much of that can probably be attributed to the fact that it's a clone of a Ramshead era Big Muff. Ramsheads are pretty much the best BMP.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 24 Jan 2012, 14:45
I've got a clone of a triangle-era Muff that would like to argue that with you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Rell on 24 Jan 2012, 17:42
I obviously need more (And more subtle than my little big muff pi) fuzz pedals.

Thank you for making me see this, Guitar thread, I will await my grant with bated breath!

Big Muff is definitely the shit though.  Gotta work with it a bit to get a good sound, but it definitely can do a lot.  Swollen Pickle is supposed to be great as far as heavy fuzz goes.

One of my buddies has a Fuzz Factory but seems to primarily use it to ruin everyone's ears with treble.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 24 Jan 2012, 18:18
I like my Little Big Muff Pi fine, but it has exactly two locations on the tone knob that I like, and the rest is garbage. S'why I like this Manx a lot so far.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 24 Jan 2012, 19:33
I obviously need more (And more subtle than my little big muff pi) fuzz pedals.

Thank you for making me see this, Guitar thread, I will await my grant with bated breath!

Big Muff is definitely the shit though.  Gotta work with it a bit to get a good sound, but it definitely can do a lot.  Swollen Pickle is supposed to be great as far as heavy fuzz goes.

One of my buddies has a Fuzz Factory but seems to primarily use it to ruin everyone's ears with treble.
You can use that with a Fuzz Factory for that purpose but it excels at bassy fuzz as well, you just have to tweak the knobs. The Swollen Pickle fucking kills at heavy fuzz.

I've got a clone of a triangle-era Muff that would like to argue that with you.

I find that Triangle clones have low end that's a bit loose for my taste.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 25 Jan 2012, 08:49
I've been using my brother's EQD Hoof for a while and its a pretty great muff clone. I think its either a ram's head or a sovtek clone, but it cuts through the mix and does chords a lot better than my 90's/00's muff.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Jan 2012, 10:37
I find that Triangle clones have low end that's a bit loose for my taste.

See, I play a lot of sludgy doom stuff, so it works fine for me. If I need high end, I crank the tone knob to the clockwise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 25 Jan 2012, 12:49
I've been using my brother's EQD Hoof for a while and its a pretty great muff clone. I think its either a ram's head or a sovtek clone, but it cuts through the mix and does chords a lot better than my 90's/00's muff.

It's a modified Tall Font Sovtek clone, and a damn good one at that.

I find that Triangle clones have low end that's a bit loose for my taste.

See, I play a lot of sludgy doom stuff, so it works fine for me. If I need high end, I crank the tone knob to the clockwise.

Ah, yes, they are great for that. Pretty sure Wata from Boris has an old school triangle, so case in point.

When I feel inclined to get doomy I usually just roll off the compression/scoop controls on my Swollen Pickle. Usually serves to open up the bass without mudding up.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 25 Jan 2012, 13:39
man, how many overdrive/fuzz/distortion pedals is too many? I've got a Nobels ODR-1 feeding into that Manx Loaghtan feeding into a Big Muff Pi into a WMD Geiger Counter, and I'm still lusting over about a hundred other kinds of gain-boosting monsters. My signal chain hates me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 25 Jan 2012, 15:15
Personally I think it's impossible to have too many. (right up until you run out of cash)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 25 Jan 2012, 19:50
the Geiger Counter is an interesting beast. Theoretically, there's a combination of knobs that'll yield just about any tone you can think of, but in practice it's best for lo-fi gain boosting or seriously gritty synth distortion. One of the coolest things it can do is running an expression pedal into the rate knob, so you can do crazy fidelity wah effects.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jan 2012, 06:25
Pretty sure Wata from Boris has an old school triangle, so case in point.

And now you see why I got one. =D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 07 Feb 2012, 13:30
I've just come into possession of an MXR Carbon Copy for free. I am most excite (Though hopefully it won't disappoint the way may last analog delay did).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 07 Feb 2012, 16:16
mxr pedals, colour me uninterested
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 07 Feb 2012, 16:28
I usually don't give them a second glance, but who am I to bitch about free gear?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 08 Feb 2012, 07:32
I've heard nothing but good things about the Carbon Copy. Congrats!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 08 Feb 2012, 10:19
I'm not opposed to cheap gear. MXR just rubs me the wrong way with their signature pedals and too-few or too-many knobs. One level and one gain knob on an OD is not enough, Dunlop!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 08 Feb 2012, 10:22
I don't really own anything from EHX besides a boost pedal, but the stuff I've used in the past has been pretty good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Feb 2012, 10:43
EHX: Can't complain about any of the stuff I've used, will probably never go without my Double Muff OD. Planning on getting a Holy Grail because my Champ doesn't have reverb. Also have used a current Little Big Muff (pretty gooood) and a Germanium OD (filthy, loved it).

MXR: Heard great stuff about the Carbon Copy. Seems like a lot of people rate them up with Malekko stuff for delay. I had a vintage Distortion + ('78 or '79) that slayed, but ended up trading it away because I was using the DMuff and my triangle Muff clone more for dirty stuff. Also had a more recent Phase 90 for a while. Build quality compared to 35-ish years ago is so crap. Plastic pots, gloppy paint job, meh. Sounded pretty good, though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 08 Feb 2012, 11:08
In my experience the holy grail is a bit too muddy for anything other than subtle reverb tones.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 08 Feb 2012, 14:24
Now I'm wondering, could you just buy an old spring reverb tank replacement for a fender amp and just use that for the effect instead of getting a pedal?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 08 Feb 2012, 18:12
Well they sell dedicated Fender Reverb units, but taking the tank out of an amp would be a bit of a rehousing conundrum.

I'm even more excited for the Carbon Copy now after using a friend's. I've been looking for something for a droning sort of delay. I'm using my TC Nova Repeater for rhythmic stuff.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 08 Feb 2012, 19:46
I still can't find an echo I like more than my RE-20 reissue. Tape echoes rock! I've been thinking about getting the Nova Repeater, though... what kind of stuff can't it pull off?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 08 Feb 2012, 20:34
Well, the Reverse function isn't as My Bloody Valentine as I'd like it to be.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 09 Feb 2012, 12:50
New topic: Jaguar or Jazzmaster for surf/spy/twang?

Discuss.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 09 Feb 2012, 13:35
Jaguars are probably more suitable. Jazzmasters have a darker tone.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 09 Feb 2012, 13:49
With a high treble output for extra "ouch." Gotta love Oliver.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 09 Feb 2012, 16:24
dang dude that picture just makes me... makes me want to buy a Jaguar. Weird...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Feb 2012, 05:13
Jaguars are probably more suitable. Jazzmasters have a darker tone.

There was that whole "The Ventures played Jazzmasters until Mosrite sponsored them" thing, though. Try both out if you get a chance, see what fits your ideal sound better.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 10 Feb 2012, 14:47
hey dudes, help me out here.

i noticed half-way through noodling around today that my bridge pickup was pretty much unresponsive. it was stupid-quiet, and the volume knob wasn't affecting anything—even with it maxed the pickup was nearly silent, and conversely even when it was at zero the pickup was still outputting, if barely.

i panic, ask a few friends, and they advise compressed air into the electronics cavity. so i do that, and about five minutes afterwards the pickup comes back to life. volume pot is working as it should, etc. etc. happy ending!

but what the fuck was the problem in the first place? my only inclination would be that dust or gunk somehow found itself a home blocking some contact on the vol. pot, and that the air blew that gunk out. but why did it take five minutes afterwards for the pickup to wake up again? and is this really something i'll have to be prepared to deal with again in the future?

EDIT: it also occurs to me that this could be and probably is a bad solder joint somewhere. i guess now's a good time to learn how to solder.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 10 Feb 2012, 15:03
It's a well-known fact that electronics gremlins dislike compressed air. Next question?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Feb 2012, 11:48
My bass amp clips and distorts something awful. I've tried various music forums but am pretty overwhelmed with opinions and advice and I still don't quite get what causes it. It's a 500 W head with a pretty big cab.. if anyone's got any knowledge, let me know.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 11 Feb 2012, 12:17
If it's a solid state amp, then you probably need to get a compressor.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Feb 2012, 12:33
It's a mixed tube/solid state (one gain knob for each). And it does have a built-in compression, but that won't stop it from overdriving/distorting. It still clips. Aside from that I fucking hate compression.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 11 Feb 2012, 20:12
My bass head does that too. The only solution I've found is to turn the preamp knobs down.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 12 Feb 2012, 02:26
Yeah but it distorts even at lower volumes.  :cry:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 12 Feb 2012, 09:37
I'll probably try switching the tubes.. just worried something else could be wrong, is it possible to fry a cab? Could there be something else wrong that anyone knows of?

I seriously dislike compressed bass. Even the slightest bit of it hurts my ears to be honest, and especially in studio everyone uses it. But if I have to I guess I'll suck it up. The problem right now is that I'm worried I've killed my amp.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 12 Feb 2012, 12:03
OK, one last question then, a good way to check if a speaker cone has been torn except for screwing them all out and testing them one by one?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Feb 2012, 10:48
http://www.orangeamps.com/micro-terror/

Welp. 20 watts, 12AX7 in the preamp stage, headphone and extension speaker out, $150 (and an optional $99 1x8" cab)..

I think I found my new late night practice/recording amp.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 14 Feb 2012, 00:48
I love the shit out of Orange amps. If I go tube for my next purchase, I'm going for the TH30, totally.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 15 Feb 2012, 12:18
Guys I don't know how far back in this thread it was I got my TT and the Avatar (2008 or so?) but I've been so happy with that li'l bastard. I'm finally putting the 5150 up on Craigslist.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 19 Feb 2012, 18:32
hey dudes in this thread that bought the nova repeater, what're your thoughts? i'm looking to amp up my delay selection (i've got an re-20 space echo reissue already) and need something more versatile than my multi-head tape delay. right now it's pretty much a tossup between the nova repeater and the boss dd-20. ideally, i'm looking for something that is capable of both self-oscillating and non-self-oscillating infinite repeats, compact & cheap. thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 19 Feb 2012, 20:22
Well, I'm in love with the Nova Repeater. Has a lot of nice features (being able to set the note division kicks ass), sounds good (can go from sterile Boss DD-3 type delays to warmer analog-esque delays) and is pretty sturdy.

As far as oscillation, if you have the repeat knob maxed and you let it drone on a bit, you can make it go crazy by going nuts on the tap tempo footswitch. Other than that, it doesn't self-oscillate at all.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 19 Feb 2012, 23:49
I have no idea what self-oscillation is at all, but I love the shit out of my Nova Repeater.
Very sturdy, dependable unit as well. It has been on God knows how many gruelling trips and never fucked up on me once.
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Post by: IDMG on 20 Feb 2012, 00:10
I have no idea what self-oscillation is at all, but I love the shit out of my Nova Repeater.
Very sturdy, dependable unit as well. It has been on God knows how many gruelling trips and never fucked up on me once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJPde-C28iU

At about 20 seconds in.
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Post by: Melodic on 20 Feb 2012, 00:39
Okay fukkit, if Lummer can carry it around to the kind of gigs he plays it must be made of hardened steel and kryptonite. Sold! Now I gotta find a distributor!
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Post by: idontunderstand on 20 Feb 2012, 01:04
OK, one last question then, a good way to check if a speaker cone has been torn except for screwing them all out and testing them one by one?


...?  :cry:
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Post by: IDMG on 20 Feb 2012, 12:54
Okay fukkit, if Lummer can carry it around to the kind of gigs he plays it must be made of hardened steel and kryptonite. Sold! Now I gotta find a distributor!

Yeah, it's also heavy enough that it doesn't slide around on the board even though I'm too lazy to velcro it.
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Post by: Melodic on 20 Feb 2012, 20:08
got the nova repeater! super satisfied with it so far, exactly what i needed. thanks for the suggestion guys!
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Post by: Lummer on 21 Feb 2012, 00:07
Got mine velcro'd on the board. Shit ain't goin' nowhere.
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Post by: IDMG on 21 Feb 2012, 13:48
Yeah, I still haven't found a velcro that really 'works' for me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZF73wZ2Z5M)
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Post by: idontunderstand on 22 Feb 2012, 00:44
OK, one last question then, a good way to check if a speaker cone has been torn except for screwing them all out and testing them one by one?


...?  :cry:

Take the grill off the front and look, basically

Well, thanks. I'm pretty clueless with anything technical. Despite that I've played music for 12 years already.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2012, 05:43
So around Thanksgiving I traded my AVRI Jag for a 60th Anniversary Twin. I have 100w of all-tube power and a pair of 12" speakers. I only have one of the two speakers wired in because I have never, EVER needed to be any louder than I already am.

Oh and I sold my old Marshall MG100DFX. Fuck that pile. I have toobs and I'm happy as a fucking clam and I win at life.
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Post by: IDMG on 23 Feb 2012, 08:23
Best decision of your life. I was a victim of that piece of shit for 7 years.
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Post by: Kwaping on 23 Feb 2012, 09:41
Congrats on the new amp! In other news, I hear that avri jag is a pretty sweet piece. Would you recommend it to someone looking to buy a jag, considering the new offerings from Fender this year?
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Post by: IDMG on 23 Feb 2012, 12:26
If that whammy bar is a big thing for you (I personally don't like em) then the American Reissues are basically your only option. The mexican Jazz/Jag guitars have fucking wretched tremolo systems.
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Post by: valley_parade on 23 Feb 2012, 14:45
I wouldn't go as far as "fucking wretched", they just moved the trem closer to the bridge to increase break angle and reduce buzz.

I think the new American 50th Anniversary Jags are the same way.
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Feb 2012, 16:11
dudes with lots of pedals, tell me about your pedal boards.

basically i'm scoping out whether i want to buy a pedal board with flight case (like one of the bigger pedal trains), just buy a flight case (and velcro the lid), or build my own pedal cases out of briefcases and plywood. I've got 8 pedals right now, 3 of which are double-footswitch size.
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Post by: IDMG on 23 Feb 2012, 20:25
I use these tiny Gator board things that with a power supply. I managed to get two because the first one Musician's Friend sent had a crack in the plywood and when I called and complained they sent me a new one free and didn't make me send the broken one back. Woohoo.

That said, you should either just go for SKB or buy a DC supply and then get some plywood at your local hardware store.
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2012, 05:19
Congrats on the new amp! In other news, I hear that avri jag is a pretty sweet piece. Would you recommend it to someone looking to buy a jag, considering the new offerings from Fender this year?

Thanks!

Dude, I made that geet/amp swap with a guy who wound up starting a band with me maybe 6 weeks after the fact. I use that thing regularly when recording with him, and we both use the whammy on it regularly. I don't think we've ever put it in a song without whammying the thing somewhere, actually. And it stays in tune perfectly. They just gotta be set up right, is all, which can be a bitch, but if fenderjaguar.net is still up they have pages with detailed instructions. See also: offsetguitars.com.

As for the sound, I absolutely love it, but I might be cheating by using the Twin. I swear to god I'm never using anything but tubes for as long as I live, if I can help it. Fuck my back, I don't care, my ears is gettin dey dick suckd
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Post by: Melodic on 25 Feb 2012, 17:09
man, the twin though. i've never been in a situation where i ever needed more loud than my deluxe without also having a PA to mic through. that extra speaker is so fukkin' heavy.
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Post by: Lummer on 26 Feb 2012, 23:50
dudes with lots of pedals, tell me about your pedal boards.

basically i'm scoping out whether i want to buy a pedal board with flight case (like one of the bigger pedal trains), just buy a flight case (and velcro the lid), or build my own pedal cases out of briefcases and plywood. I've got 8 pedals right now, 3 of which are double-footswitch size.

I run my pedals on a Pedaltrain, and it has served me pretty well so far. I like that it's welded steel and hard to kick out of the way. It's also big enough for the pedals I need, and then some. I hardly ever use the NS-2 and HM-3.
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Post by: Patrick on 27 Feb 2012, 12:10
that extra speaker is so fukkin' heavy.

It never fails to amaze me how few musicians seem to be aware of such innovations as hand trucks. I got that shit to Berkeley on BART no problem. Then I walked it about 15 city blocks to the venue. Then I took it up 3 flights of stairs, had some brews, played a killer set, packed her up, and did all of that stuff backwards.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 27 Feb 2012, 16:18
You've named your hand cart BART?
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Post by: pwhodges on 27 Feb 2012, 16:21
Even I know that's Bay Area Rapid Transit!
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Feb 2012, 03:32
Paul is indeed correct, I'm a Bay Area kid. I did rename my hollowbody to Holler Bawdry though.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 28 Feb 2012, 12:16
To paraphrase Hanners: I like my version better.  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Feb 2012, 12:59
I like mine better; BART is far more useful in my line of work than a mere hand cart alone. By their powers combined, I can be in 2 active bands that cover ground all over the Bay Area for relatively cheap, and the best part is that I just have to take the bus or get a friend to drive me to the station in the next town over from where I live. It's flawless.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 29 Feb 2012, 01:36
Bart, Bart, the happy hand cart
Bart, Bart, always does his part
whenever you need a helping hand
and there are no Big Arnies in your band
Just call for Bart and there he goes
There's no better friend I suppose..
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Post by: IDMG on 29 Feb 2012, 13:46
Anybody ever try an oscillating fuzz on bass? Shit's fun as hell. Kind of makes me want to put an Om-style Bass/Drums duo together.
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Post by: Melodic on 29 Feb 2012, 13:48
just google-searched that shit and i agree 100%
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Post by: IDMG on 06 Mar 2012, 13:43
Managed to grab a Blackout Effectors Musket Fuzz for relatively cheap (IDMG wastes her money on a Fuzz pedal, what are the odds?). Dem Baroness/Kylesa tones.

Might end up making my Swollen Pickle obsolete, which is sad cause I've gotten attached to that boxy green thing.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Mar 2012, 18:24
My beloved, adored Twin is quite dead. Power supply issue blew out 6L6 number 3 (from left) and has left me ampless. Gotta shell cash on new power tubes and on power supply repairs. FML.
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Mar 2012, 22:09
Tubes are cheap, man! The power supply, on the other hand, I've no idea about.
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Post by: Theyis on 07 Mar 2012, 03:06
Hey guys,

I'm in need of some advice and hoping you can give me some. I'm looking for a new guitar in the 800 dollar range that is good for downtuning (standard D to C). Preferably Les Paul shaped, but I'm not super picky.
I've heard scale length is important for downtuning, but I'm not sure how important it is in contrast to using the right strings (heavier) and bridge...

Anyway, all advice on models or on the technical side of it is appreciated...
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Mar 2012, 03:43
Apparently it demands a matched set, but that is $70. I'm more worried about the cost of repairs to the power supply, because I have no clue what's wrong with it.

Theyis, the reasoning behind having a longer scale length is that the longer a string gets (when tuned to the same note), the more mass there is vibrating. Basically you get a lot more sustain and a lot more power behind each note. This is why basses have thicker strings and [relatively] super long scale necks.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Mar 2012, 04:52
LTD Eclipse...I think at $800 yr probably looking at the 1000 series?

http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/ltd-standard-deluxe/ec-series.html
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Post by: IDMG on 07 Mar 2012, 13:09
For $800 you could just get a used Les Paul.
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 Mar 2012, 16:09
Wouldn't the short scale of the LP be bad for downtuning?
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Mar 2012, 21:40
You would think, but Wata generally tunes to Bb, and the dudes in Pelican rock Gibsons in B.
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Post by: IDMG on 07 Mar 2012, 23:35
I find the answer to all life's problems is "use thicker strings".

The LTD things are Les Paul scale as well. As is pretty much anything with that body shape.
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Post by: Lummer on 08 Mar 2012, 00:51
yeah, I used a 13 17 30 42 52 64 set on my SG for Bb. Worked like a charm!
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Post by: Theyis on 08 Mar 2012, 03:44
LTD Eclipse...I think at $800 yr probably looking at the 1000 series?

http://www.espguitars.com/guitars/ltd-standard-deluxe/ec-series.html

Ah yes, that would be a nice one, but unfortunately it cost 850-900 euros where I live, which is slightly (read: a lot) over the budget of 800 dollars (600 euros). We get pretty shafted price wise for instruments over here...

I'll look into the second hand market for a used LP. Definitely won't hurt...
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Post by: IDMG on 09 Mar 2012, 11:59
Forgot about those. Shit, I've seen used SG Specials go for around $400.
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Post by: Lummer on 12 Mar 2012, 00:39
9-46?

Shit dawg :(
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Post by: Kwaping on 12 Mar 2012, 11:30
In other news, I am now dating a brand-new 50th Anniversary Jaguar in Lake Placid blue for 30 days. We'll see how it goes, but so far so good!
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Post by: valley_parade on 12 Mar 2012, 14:40
Pics or gtfo, please.
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Post by: Melodic on 12 Mar 2012, 15:36
I can think of so many better things to spend $2,500 on than a short-scale guitar.

Wait no I can't.

EDIT: I've also got a ridiculous hard-on for the Thurston Moore Jazzmaster. It's such a beautiful ugly guitar, I want to buy it and then beat it up with a steel-ball hammer and record the effects.
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Post by: Kwaping on 12 Mar 2012, 15:44
Well I don't want to gtfo, so here's the pic:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7194/6831341526_3b7316b60b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77173353@N03/6831341526/)
My new 50th Anniversary Jaguar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/77173353@N03/6831341526/) by kwaping_pics (http://www.flickr.com/people/77173353@N03/), on Flickr

And the best part, I actually got a deal on it - $1671 out the door from Guitar Center Hollywood. I couldn't believe they would deal on a guitar like that. (http://kwaping.com/imgs/dancingbanana.gif)

If the photo doesn't post (it didn't in preview mode), click for pic:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/77173353@N03/6831341526/
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Mar 2012, 06:57
Very nice!
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Mar 2012, 08:29
Damn, that is purdy.
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Post by: IDMG on 13 Mar 2012, 08:34
I lust for blue Jaguars.

In other news, I feel dirty. I tried out a Peavey Vypyr 30 and actually really liked it.
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Mar 2012, 08:36
Thanks guys! Plays even better than it looks. :)

I know I'm in the honeymoon phase so I'll try not to gush too much.

The bad news is, now I'm really jonesing for a Deluxe Reverb. If I don't post after about a month or so, my wife has probably killed me. :)
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Mar 2012, 13:25
I love my Deluxe! Just don't buy it for the tremolo/reverb, which both suck on the reissues. That Jaguar is epic, man.
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Mar 2012, 14:46
Thanks for that info, Melodic! Are there easy mods that can improve the trem and verb in the DRRI? I played one in the store when demoing the Jaguar and it sounded great, but then again the store was very noisy.

Thanks for the compliments, everyone! My plan was to try it out for 30 days, but I'm already pretty convinced that I need this guitar in my life permanently. :)
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Post by: Melodic on 13 Mar 2012, 14:57
Kwaping,

It depends who you ask. The vibrato is fine as long as you like Fender's scooped, buzz-saw style effect. It's a very Link Wray kind of sound. The reverb tank, on the other hand, is something I just can't stand using. You get one knob for intensity, which controls both the depth and volume of the reverb, so it's hard to find a butter zone. It also has a tendency to produce a lot of excess noise, especially if you're pumping relatively high gain through it. You could technically replace the entire tank, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. In my case, I just bought separate vibrato and reverb pedals that I like way more than the built-in effects.

Most of the modding I've seen on the DRRIs have been tube and speaker swapping to get them to sound more like the old '64 DRs, which isn't that hard. The RIs tend to have a cleaner sound when cranked, and not as much personality as older tube amps that really warm the sound when they're being pushed. If you're planning on playing straight to the DRRI and want it to add more luster to your playing, I'd recommend looking into those kinds of mods. For my case, I wanted the cleanest tone possible at the amp so I could fuck with my tone through a pedalboard, so it works out great.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Mar 2012, 04:56
I know I'm in the honeymoon phase so I'll try not to gush too much.

Gush freely. That axe looks ace. And as a former offset owner I'll tell you right now those things are fucking killer.

Your amp problems could be solved by getting a used Twin. Cheaper than a new Deluxe and the reverb is basically perfect no matter what. I am seriously bummed I still haven't had mine fixed, because that contraption is the best thing that ever happened to me.
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Post by: Kwaping on 14 Mar 2012, 08:09
Thanks for the suggestion, Patrick, I'll definitely look into a used Twin Reverb. I was a bit nervous about the 85-watt rating, but I have an attenuator for that. I was also concerned about the weight and the solid-state rectifier (DR is tube rectified).

As for the gushing... I've played it as much as possible lately (between work and family), and it's amazing. It's hitting all the sounds in my head that I've never been able to achieve. This must be what it's like for a woman discovering her g-spot - it gives me great pleasure, I make loud noises when playing with it, and I can't stop touching it.
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Post by: IDMG on 14 Mar 2012, 12:46
I was also concerned about the weight and the solid-state rectifier (DR is tube rectified).

Am I the only one who thinks that the rectifier doesn't really make a difference in the sound of an amp?
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Post by: pwhodges on 14 Mar 2012, 15:49
If it does, then something is insanely badly designed.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Mar 2012, 15:54
But Paul, that 6v6 tone m0j0. You have to experience it to believe it.

Of course, the only way to properly experience such m0j0 ton3z is with a '59 Les Paul or a PRS.

/bloozlaywer
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Post by: Kwaping on 14 Mar 2012, 16:42
Alright, I'll be the first to admit I have spent way too much time on TGP. Must have infected my brain without me realizing it. I will henceforth stop being concerned about solid state rectifiers.  8-)
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Post by: Lummer on 15 Mar 2012, 03:28
I am rearranging my setup to go rack-based, but still 100% solid state. Haters gonna hate, solid staters gonna solid state.
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Mar 2012, 04:39
<asshole>
I think of the distortion characteristics of tube vs. solid state much the same way as I think of different kinds of bowel movements. Smooth waveform distortion vs hard clipping... You get my drift.
</asshole>
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Post by: Lummer on 15 Mar 2012, 06:27
By all means, I want my guitar sound to feel like explosively diarrhea-ing a vicious mix of razors, battery acid and medium-sized rocks.
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Post by: Lummer on 15 Mar 2012, 06:29
Holy shit, am I ever proud of that pagebreak!
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Post by: IDMG on 15 Mar 2012, 08:22
I am rearranging my setup to go rack-based, but still 100% solid state. Haters gonna hate, solid staters gonna solid state.

Go the way of Buzz Osbourne and track down Sunn Betas.
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Mar 2012, 08:38
I've never changed a transistor in an amp.
But then so far I've never changed a valve in this...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LTe5l0m3Wf8/T19X8rlmP9I/AAAAAAAAXmU/Dip-wv2DGQ4/s521/scs-illicitizen-20120211-78.jpg)
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Post by: IDMG on 15 Mar 2012, 23:39
I always kind of assumed you never needed to swap out transistors unless something went really wrong or you're trying to radically change the sound.
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Mar 2012, 01:42
Alright dudes let's talk about chips, scratches, dents, scrapes, etc.

I leave guitar paint at a venue on average of once per show. I used to get choked up every time I did this (the axe is the most expensive thing I've ever paid for in one sitting), but now I kind of enjoy looking at each blemish on it and remembering what I was doing and who I was playing with.

What about you? Got any good scrape stories?
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Post by: doombilly on 17 Mar 2012, 13:13
Not really. But Velcro-ing my harmonica to my nitefly strap was a really dumb idea.
Tiny ding.
(that's what she said)
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Post by: IDMG on 17 Mar 2012, 18:30
My bass has lots of mysterious paint chips that I don't remember happening. And my japanese strat was preowned so I claim no responsibility for the small dings it has.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Mar 2012, 04:36
Before I knew that one of the more prominent local musicians was prominent mainly for drinking too much, I let him use my El Degas hollerbawdry, got a nice smack of the headstock against a wall when he propped her up against an amp and then promptly accidentally booted her over. Jackass. I started asking to smell people's breath at my bar open mic before letting them use my shit (a tradition I've kept up over a year now).

Fuck that guy, man.
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Post by: Lummer on 18 Mar 2012, 04:51
I've thrown shit around like nobody's business, hit headstocks into people's heads and various other things, and I've only a few little dings to show for it :(

My Randall amp is cracked, though. Must have happened during a drive in a bus I think. Still works like a charm though!
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Mar 2012, 07:17
There is about an inch of finish off of my old Mustang. It had it when I got it c1992. Oddly under the t-burst, is clear coat.
I kept breaking strings on the Nitefly M, so I switched to a lighter pick. Not before wearing a pretty good amount of the mahogany down.
http://bit.ly/yBqURn
 
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Post by: Melodic on 18 Mar 2012, 11:43
Speaking of other musicians using yr gear, I have discovered that literally everyone I loan my amp to loves the sound of a guitar jack being unplugged with the volume cranked. Really, shitbirds, does no one know how bad this is?
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Mar 2012, 12:11
Man. That happened to my Twin a couple times. People would unplug that shit all "DERRRRRR" and I would be like "HEY WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, THERE'S A FUCKING STANDBY SWITCH" from across the bar and they'd be like "It'll be okay man get yr panties untwisted" and the bartender would have a word with them right there. That bar is amazing.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 Mar 2012, 15:24
yeah, no one seems to get the standby concept when they borrow Maria's SVT either.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 Mar 2012, 16:35
What gets me is the fact that it sounds horrible, what could possibly make it a good thing? Don't horrible-sounding things instantly get a bad rap, bad enough to never ever repeat it? But people never learn, not until they've popped enough speaker cones.

We seriously 86ed a guy for being a habitual offender and he slandered me to a lot of people, I took that hit pretty hard financially for a bit. God I hate instrument players who aren't musicians. They disrespect everybody's stuff.
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Post by: Melodic on 18 Mar 2012, 20:02
Where's the standby switch on a Twin? For my Deluxe it's in the back and so is understandable when someone misses it. Still, though, I wanted to smack that guy after his set.

tuathal, agreed on the cable thing. I get all my cables from Divine Noise in Portland, from a guy who hand-makes each and every cable he sells. He sends out each order with an instruction manual on how to roll the fuckers. Another pet peeve? Stepping on those. Have some courtesy, step around my gear, dudes.
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Post by: IDMG on 18 Mar 2012, 21:40
I only have one friend I trust with my gear and I'd never lend shit to a stranger.

Also, I'm gas'ing for a Fender solid-state amp. Maybe a Deluxe 85.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Mar 2012, 01:41
EDIT: Also, Patrick, just checked out Troubador! in your sig, good stuff. Will be recommending this to some friends of mine.

Thanks! It's great being in a band that I love and hearing nice things about it.

I am also very glad I'm not the only person in the world who gets annoyed when people curl up cables badly. Story of my life.
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Mar 2012, 02:45
I just bought a terrible-sounding 90s digital preamp last Friday. Go me!
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Post by: Kwaping on 19 Mar 2012, 08:51
Also, I'm gas'ing for a Fender solid-state amp. Maybe a Deluxe 85.

Wow, that's something I thought I'd never hear...

Also, you cable nerds would love me. I worked as a stagehand for a while, so I can coil like nobody's business. Do you know the trick about twisting one way for one loop and the opposite way for the next? That way, your cables will uncoil without any twisting.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Mar 2012, 10:03
Haven't tried one myself, but I've heard some surprisingly good things about the Deluxe 85s.
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Post by: pwhodges on 19 Mar 2012, 10:18
I've never got the hang of over-under coiling, though I know I should...  When I was at the BBC I was taught to coil mic cables sort of over-over, but not putting a twist in and having a big enough loop to fall into a figure of eight on its own - essentially like laying out a figure of eight on the ground, but doing it in your hand instead.  That works fine with really flexible cables like the Beeb had, but doesn't really work with stiffer ones.
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Post by: Kwaping on 19 Mar 2012, 10:42
Oh yeah, there's this cool way of kinda-braiding a cable where it stores nicely but you can just pull the cord end and it will undo itself. Hard to describe, but pretty awesome. I don't exactly remember how to do that, though... I should go grab an extension cord and try to remember.
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Post by: Melodic on 19 Mar 2012, 11:36
Yes you should do that. The only way I've been taught to wrap cable is the half-twist per loop thing. If there's one skill I need to work on to reach fulfillment in my life, it's more ways to wrap expensive cables.
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Post by: IDMG on 19 Mar 2012, 13:56
Also, I'm gas'ing for a Fender solid-state amp. Maybe a Deluxe 85.

Wow, that's something I thought I'd never hear...

Their onboard distortion is terrible but they take to pedals pretty well.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 19 Mar 2012, 16:32
As exciting as cable-wrapping debates are, I would like to change the topic to capacitors. Does anyone have experience in swapping out caps in guitars? My MIM Tele still has the cheap ceramic one in it, and I've heard that paper-in-oil caps sound nice with single coils.
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Post by: IDMG on 20 Mar 2012, 08:39
Only thing I know about capacitors is that Gibson are assholes.
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Post by: Kwaping on 20 Mar 2012, 09:37
So I did do that cable-wrapping test that I mentioned earlier, and my discovery is:

Either I did it wrong, or it's not nearly as awesome as I remembered. Possibly both.
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Post by: Bearer on 20 Mar 2012, 14:57
As someone trying to get into the film industry, the whole over under method of wrapping cables is generally considered standard (http://www.diy-filmmaking.com/how-to-wrap-cable-tutorial-roundup/)

It's tricky at first but is definitely better for the cables in the long run.  That said though, if you've been wrapping them one way since the beginning, don't just up and switch because this will actually cause more harm than good
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Mar 2012, 16:18
Only thing I know about the world at large is that Gibson are assholes.

ftfy, but they do make a mean-ass guitar sometimes
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Post by: IDMG on 20 Mar 2012, 18:36
Well, my opinion of Gibson is similar to my opinion of Apple: Love the product, hate the business practices.
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Post by: Bearer on 21 Mar 2012, 17:39
Well, my opinion of Gibson is similar to my opinion of Apple: Love the product, hate the business practices.
But that said, the Les Paul is a flawed instrument; the terrible headstock design being probably the biggest gripe.  What Gibson needs to start doing is to insert 2 short carbon fiber or brass/steel/whatever rods where the headstock break is on either side of the truss rod like they do with most basses.  It won't affect the tone at all, and will definitely increase the stability, playability, and overall life of the instrument.
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Post by: IDMG on 22 Mar 2012, 00:40
Then they will use that to justify a 23% price increase.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Mar 2012, 10:17
Ah yeah, this guy just emailed me from Nigeria. It turns out I have a long lost uncle that left piles of cash in my name. As soon as it hits my bank account I'm buying everyone on here one o' these:
(http://www.premierguitar.com/Stream/StreamImage.aspx?Image_ID=DBEA5C46-AADB-494A-BA0D-C031C3202C98&Image_Type=image)
 :-P
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Post by: pwhodges on 22 Mar 2012, 11:02
Hey, I guess that means we're related!
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Mar 2012, 12:39
Aw dude, can I have a Relevator LS instead?
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Post by: Kwaping on 22 Mar 2012, 14:09
Within an hour of me posting my Egnater Rebel 30 head for sale on Craigslist, channel 2 stopped working. And no, it's not a bad tube.

FML
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Post by: Kwaping on 22 Mar 2012, 14:12
Great writeup on El Hombre: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2012/Apr/BilT_Guitars_El_Hombre_Electric_Guitar_Review.aspx
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Post by: Patrick on 22 Mar 2012, 14:23
Aw dude, can I have a Relevator LS instead?

Shut your mouth Shane
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Post by: Theyis on 23 Mar 2012, 03:05
Ah yeah, this guy just emailed me from Nigeria. It turns out I have a long lost uncle that left piles of cash in my name. As soon as it hits my bank account I'm buying everyone on here one o' these...

That is the best looking head I've seen in... well probably ever...
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Mar 2012, 11:08
Great writeup on El Hombre: http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2012/Apr/BilT_Guitars_El_Hombre_Electric_Guitar_Review.aspx
yes, that's where I saw it.
I'd actually probably go Kauer before El Hombre, but it is pretty swanky looking.
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Post by: Chad K. on 25 Mar 2012, 17:03
So I am sadly getting rid of four of my guitars on ebay in an attempt to fund a house purchase.  I wouldn't ordinarily mention it here, except that one of the guitars is an Xaviere XV-910, basically a copy of a casino or es-330, but with a semi-hollow body.  I know a few members wanted to try one out, and mine is already all modded for cheap cash.  If you're interested in it, or my other listings, I have them under user name "teatime602."


(Mods- if this is too spammy, let me know and I'll delete. Thanks.)
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Post by: IDMG on 25 Mar 2012, 20:24
Small boards are fun:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/oh30qr.jpg)
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Post by: Jimor on 25 Mar 2012, 22:21
I've been going through some youtube pages indexing local music clips, and came across this unusual (to me at least) method of playing a double-necked guitar. Ian Ethan proving those things aren't just for show on stage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7zDoZLHy8).

And re: cable coiling, working in the video field, it's over/under for just about everything. It's not too critical for stage cables, but for the longer stuff we use to run at remote events (100-300ft), there's no other way to do it. But I do have to say, that the few times I've helped the audio guy put away his stuff at some of the music shows I go to, I ask which way he does it instead of just assuming my way is superior, because of course, he's the one who has to unroll it all at his next gig, not me.
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Post by: Melodic on 26 Mar 2012, 01:33
If we're talking about technical double-neck playing, I would be remiss to not mention El Ten Eleven (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBTUAHGpQqE). One bass neck, one guitar neck, and a whammy pedal.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 26 Mar 2012, 19:37
Wow, that was fantastic. One of those names I've heard floating around but never thought to check out. Thanks for posting.
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Post by: Kwaping on 29 Mar 2012, 08:55
I am really kicking myself for waiting so long to get a 24" scale guitar. With my smaller hands, it really feels a lot better. It's like a breath of fresh air after struggling with my Strat for the last year. I can't wait till I wear out these 10-46 strings and can upgrade to 11s or 12s.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 29 Mar 2012, 15:07
So I feel like I have been lied to about how absurdly cheap guitars are in pawn shops. I walked to one today and go excited when i saw a 72 Thinline RI sitting on the counter, but it was maybe only like 20% cheaper than buying one new. Same story with a Fender Twin.  I'll be damned if I'm dropping that kind of cash at a place where the staff presumably knows next to nothing about guitars and would probably not accept returns. Did the one I went to just suck or is that usually the case?
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Mar 2012, 19:33
I think a lot of shops do their research on guitars now and try to vaguely know their shit.
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Post by: Regress on 29 Mar 2012, 20:11
I think in general with the sort of bubble that's come up around electric guitars in the past couple decades, that the days of finding cheap guitars in pawn shops is gone. Whether or not they know anything about guitars is a totally different question, but I would bet that they mostly just do a quick Google search when they come in.
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Post by: Bearer on 29 Mar 2012, 21:09
I think in general with the sort of bubble that's come up around electric guitars in the past couple decades, that the days of finding cheap guitars in pawn shops is gone. Whether or not they know anything about guitars is a totally different question, but I would bet that they mostly just do a quick Google search when they come in.

My friends who works at a pawn shop tells me that besides them having a guitar guy on call, they generally at least do an ebay check to see what re-sell prices are like.  Even when they do get cool stuff in, it's not much less than what you'd find on online auction sites or amazon anyway.  They just got a fucking nice Rickenbacker bass but it's still expensive as fuck.
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Post by: Regress on 29 Mar 2012, 21:28
Yeah that makes a lot of sense, the downside of the internet is that everyone pretty much knows what everything is worth. 
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Post by: pwhodges on 29 Mar 2012, 23:25
People can also be pretty stupid on eBay, though.  Over the past three years, I have being buying BBC LS5/9 speakers; these have been going for £800 a pair, and recently £1600 a pair; but I've being buying them singly, and that way I've got them for between £80 and £130 each.  They've been available that way because of all the mono studios that the BBC has been closing or upgrading, and matched pairs are irrelevant because they made all their own-design speakers to the spec required for matching in any case.

I've also regularly seen secondhand stuff bid up to more than the new price anywhere in town.
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Post by: Lummer on 30 Mar 2012, 00:43
Also, a newsflash:

PEOPLE! IT IS NOW THE EIGHTIES AGAIN!

I will be converting my entire rig to a rackbased setup. I'm selling my Laney, and I have recently purchased an old digital preamp, a BOSS GX-700. This will go in a rack setup with a Rocktron Velocity 300 solid state poweramp I'm picking up very soon. I'll probably add some more poweramps, EQ's and what not as I go along.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Mar 2012, 05:07
I am often surprised to see shit guitars and equipment for sale in pawn shops for more than they can be had new. I've noted that about eBay for, well since it started. People get competitive and will bid, bid, bid for something just to be the "winner." The converse is Craigslist where no matter how cheaply you price something , some danker will want to haggle you down. I hate a haggler.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Mar 2012, 07:29
Speaking of good deal, just snagged a sunburst Squier Jazzmaster body for $100! Probably going to cannibalize my Jagmaster for the neck/wiring/white witch hats and sell the body/trem.

BOOOOOOOOOM. Finally getting a fucking partsy-goodness Jazzmaster.

Okay fuck it, I just bought a black pickguard on ebay. Since this is the VM Jazzmaster, it had a toploading bridge, which the guy drilled out for a normal tune-o-matic (he is tossing in a roller bridge) and added a cheap GFS trem. That will be replaced by their new Bigsby-alike system (http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xtrem-Top-Mount-Flat-Surface-Vibrato-Chrome-Finish-_p_4416.html) eventually. Here is a mockup of what I'm looking to do:

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/jmproject.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 30 Mar 2012, 08:00
Also, a newsflash:

PEOPLE! IT IS NOW THE EIGHTIES AGAIN!

I will be converting my entire rig to a rackbased setup. I'm selling my Laney, and I have recently purchased an old digital preamp, a BOSS GX-700. This will go in a rack setup with a Rocktron Velocity 300 solid state poweramp I'm picking up very soon. I'll probably add some more poweramps, EQ's and what not as I go along.

I'm eagearly awaiting your "fuck why did I sell all my good gear" post in coming months.
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Post by: Melodic on 30 Mar 2012, 13:02
I know we've been over this before when Patrick posted pictures of The Bitch, but I can't find those posts, so let's talk SANDING.

I've got a Squire P-Bass that I am about to cannibalize. I've already sanded down and painted the pickguard (in chalkboard paint, no less!!) and now I want to scrap the shit-black finish on the body and then just seal the wood. I've always wanted a natural-body bass!

I've got a general idea of what to do. I'll be sealing up the electronics, grabbing a few different grades of sandpaper and a sanding block. But does anyone with practical experience have good advice? I don't really give a shit if I fuck up horribly, but it'd be nice if I didn't.

ALSO, anyone know how much digging I'll have to do on the neck to sand off the headstock branding? I wanna get rid of the fake Fender logo while I'm deconstructing this behemoth.
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Post by: Kwaping on 30 Mar 2012, 13:37
My advice is practice on scrap wood first. Basically, don't touch your guitar until you feel reasonably confident that you know what you're doing.
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Post by: doombilly on 30 Mar 2012, 13:48
Speaking of Fenders... http://youtu.be/9nBw--ohySw
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 Mar 2012, 08:09
I'm not sure WHAT that thing is at 1:02 (some sort of Duo-Sonic/Tele hybrid?), but I want it.
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Post by: doombilly on 31 Mar 2012, 12:06
Not sure.
heh (potentially NSFW)
http://mlkshk.com/r/E7Y0   /muff
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Post by: IDMG on 31 Mar 2012, 13:40
Oh FuzzBoxGirl, you silly, silly person.
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Post by: doombilly on 31 Mar 2012, 16:23
AsI understand it, yes. Yes there is.
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Post by: valley_parade on 31 Mar 2012, 19:51
a) Fuck yeah Mahoney Boss Tone

b) There's no Fuzzrite?
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Post by: doombilly on 31 Mar 2012, 20:17
Fuzzrite was a victim of a heinous Brazilian Wax
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Post by: Lummer on 01 Apr 2012, 23:35
Also, a newsflash:

PEOPLE! IT IS NOW THE EIGHTIES AGAIN!

I will be converting my entire rig to a rackbased setup. I'm selling my Laney, and I have recently purchased an old digital preamp, a BOSS GX-700. This will go in a rack setup with a Rocktron Velocity 300 solid state poweramp I'm picking up very soon. I'll probably add some more poweramps, EQ's and what not as I go along.

I'm eagearly awaiting your "fuck why did I sell all my good gear" post in coming months.

I dunno.. Remember, I've been rocking a cheap solid state amp as my favouritest thing ever for over a year now. I have horrible taste :/
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Apr 2012, 11:47
Pickguard: Arrived!
Next up: Body/bridge/trem.
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Post by: Melodic on 03 Apr 2012, 16:21
Holy shit man, there is so much lacquer on this bass it's ridiculous. I started out using 100 grit sandpaper and a sanding block, but that wasn't even close to enough so I switched to 60 grit on a palm sander. It's still going to take me hours to get rid of all this shitty paint. SO BE IT, if Patrick can mutilate guitars so can I!
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Post by: Kwaping on 06 Apr 2012, 08:40
I know you guys are gonna dig this!

(http://leadingtoneseattle.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/L1220212-621x1024.jpg)

http://leadingtoneseattle.com/wordpress/2012/04/the-skyemaster-our-custom-made-jazzmaster-for-skye-of-fleet-foxes/
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Post by: Melodic on 06 Apr 2012, 10:22
I have never before seen any pickup, let alone a lipstick tube, behind the bridge, but now that I HAVE seen it it cannot be undone and I am going to build that guitar god DAMMIT
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2012, 11:31
I saw that somewhere the other day. Belongs to one of the dudes from Fleet Foxes, right?
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Apr 2012, 12:22
Dat bridge, btw, is a Mastery. Supposedly amazing stuff.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Apr 2012, 07:07
....get it, get it sooner than right now. Holy frig.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 09 Apr 2012, 14:35
I have never before seen any pickup, let alone a lipstick tube, behind the bridge, but now that I HAVE seen it it cannot be undone and I am going to build that guitar god DAMMIT
Just like most horrible-but-also-amazing things that have been done to Jazzmasters, Sonic Youth have been doing that for a while.
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Post by: Melodic on 09 Apr 2012, 20:38
Okay so I've been learning a lot about what not to do to a bass guitar!!

I started out with a Squier Precision Bass, the cheapest of the cheap. I'd bought it from a friend for fifty bucks, and it had a few initials scratched into the paint here and there. It was black, but I've always wanted a natural wood bass guitar, so I decided to get creative and try to make one for myself.

I started by removing every nut and bolt from the body, including the bolt-on neck and all the hardware. Everything gets deposited in a tupperware container. I cleaned all the hardware by hand with a microfiber cloth and some patience, save for the screws, most of which are filthy or rusty and I'm looking into options to get those spick and span as well.

I started the DIY part with the pick-guard. I sanded it down with 180 grit emery cloth to get the surface roughed up for painting, then coated it in three layers of latex-based chalkboard paint. It looks great, and definitely won't hold up to repeated pick scrapes, but that wasn't really the point. When the paint had dried, I used a file to remove the excess paint from the edges of the guard, especially around the pickup slots where things need to be pretty precision.

Next came the neck. I taped down the rosewood with painter's tape, then used #0000 superfine steel wool to polish the frets. This was shit work, and I got steel wool everywhere. Next I took off the tape and cleaned the entire neck with another microfiber cloth and the edge of a credit card to get into grime-packed areas. Lastly, I rubbed some lemon oil into the fretboard and let it sit for twenty minutes or so before removing it.

With the fretboard clean and prepared, I moved onto the headstock. I used more superfine steel wool to combat the ugly Squier headstock decal (which on Squiers is silkscreened on; don't try this on high-end gear as the imprint is buried into the wood and you'll never get a clean finish). I couldn't quite get the afterimage off of the headstock, so I took to it with 180 grit sandpaper and carefully sanded away until the decal was a thing of the past.

On to the body. This was a royal pain in the ass. I'd heard of people using chemical paint stripper to get rid of the stupidly thick lacquer coats on bass guitars, but I didn't trust it and instead bought a palm sander and various strengths of sandpaper. I started with 100 but realized immediately it wasn't rough enough, so upgraded to 50 grit and took to the project. It took me 3 or 4 hours to get through the lacquer on the front and back of the bass, and another 3 for the sides and horns. From there, I downgraded to 120 grit and did a finishing job with the palm sander and sanding sponges, making sure everything was even and, most importantly, smooth.

I read a lot into different kinds of varnish and finishes, but there didn't seem to be a definitive verdict on what to use and how much of it would be best. I ended up going with Formby's Low Gloss Tung Oil Finish, which is basically a very diluted varnish finish. I only added three thin coats over the bass, which I'm hoping is just enough to give the guitar back some of the tone I took away when I removed the paint finish. Only time'll tell if the varnish was the right way to go, as it's currently curing in my work's garage. Pics to follow!
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Post by: Lupercal on 10 Apr 2012, 02:22
I tried a similar project with a knock-off Strat that was my first guitar. The cheap paint and coating that is used on all low-end guitars is pretty horrendous, luckily I haven't had to get rid of every last bit due to the fact I was going to re-paint it a different colour. I sanded by hand, it was a bitch of a job, but taking something electric to it would just be more trouble than its worth.

Good luck with the rest of it. You upgrading hardware too?
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Apr 2012, 05:06
With polyester finishes, apparently the best bet for stripping is to use a heat gun.
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Post by: IDMG on 12 Apr 2012, 09:09
I'd like some advice from you all:

I have a HH configuration Fender Strat and the pickups sound like ass. Any replacement suggestions that won't financially ruin me?
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Post by: Lupercal on 13 Apr 2012, 06:02
Did you do a deal with the devil and get a Blacktop?
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Post by: IDMG on 14 Apr 2012, 00:21
No, it's a Standard Series from 2006.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Apr 2012, 02:50
PAF reissues. Do it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Apr 2012, 09:13
Surf 90s, DO IT.


Jazzmaster body, she is on her way! Will post pics once it gets here and I can mock up most of the guitar.
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Post by: IDMG on 15 Apr 2012, 13:49
Surf 90s, DO IT.

Yeah, no thanks. I don't like Dearmond-style pickups.
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Post by: Melodic on 15 Apr 2012, 19:56
DUDES, WOW ME WITH YOUR SUGGESTIONS FOR CHEAP TREMOLO PEDALS.
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Post by: IDMG on 15 Apr 2012, 20:41
Malekko.
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Apr 2012, 20:45
Danelectro Tuna Melt
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Post by: IDMG on 15 Apr 2012, 21:05
Or just shell the extra $60 to buy a not-shitty pedal and support an independent company run by a gay guy, just to spite the evil mass of human garbage who runs Danelectro.

http://malekkoheavyindustry.com/index.php/all-effects-pedals/trem
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Apr 2012, 21:38
1. My Tuna Melt has lasted me for at least five years and has survived all kinds of abuses including trips abroad and weekly gigging. Just don't stomp on it like you're trying to kill a rat or something. Dano and FIAT get the same bad rap because people abusing their shit often gets confused with low quality equipment.

2. Who honestly gives a shit about anybody's politics or sexual orientation when trying out a product? Let people have their own beliefs and let people choose for themselves what reasons they have for buying/not buying a product, it's just as much their right to choose for themselves.
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Post by: IDMG on 16 Apr 2012, 01:25
@#2: It's called voting with your dollar. The CEO of Dano donated lots of money to support Proposition 8. That fact alone makes buying a Dano product morally bankrupt.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Apr 2012, 02:29
You have every right to boycott a gear manufacturer and their products based on their politics, just like I have the right to not care one lick about politics and let my ears do the deciding. My personal preference: objectivity
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Apr 2012, 08:33
My theory: Buy Dano stuff used.

The guy in charge of Evets is a shitbag, so buy used. You still get good gear, but they get none of your money.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Apr 2012, 09:24
That Malekko Trem actually looks incredibly swag. No way to swap between different LFOs but I don't think that'd bother me too much if the depth knob works well.
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Apr 2012, 10:03
I typically try to avoid companies if I dislike their politics. But I don't really think I research it that much. Had i heard that about Dano, it would have swayed me to not purchase something of theirs (hypothetically). But that's just me. I had my first Coors in many, many years last month. Not sure if they are still fascist bully-boys. But I was getting sick of choosing between Żywiec and Elbląg where I was staying.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Apr 2012, 12:39
boo nobody has that malekko unit in stock anywhere here. next up, compact volume pedals.
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Apr 2012, 16:06
funny I'm selling my big assed ernie ball volume pedal, and my Jim Dunlop -cry baby. That wah's been broken for years and I just fixed it so someone else can rock it. It definitely is a buyers market. Been trying to sell my Roland Cube 30 and SS Princeton Stereo Chorus for EVER. People only seem to want to jerk me around.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Apr 2012, 17:43
I'm super interested in the Morley mini-volume pedal. Can't find any other compact volume pedals like that on the market, and it's super cheap. The space I'd save on my board is definitely a big plus, same reason I'm stoked on the Malekko Trem.

I'm also planning on picking up TC Electronic's Hall Of Fame reverb, unless anyone can recommend me a similarly verbose reverb for the same price point.

Also guys, I really really really want an Eventide Black Hole reverb and one of those new Strymon Timelines. $500 a pop...
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Apr 2012, 18:15
I've only ever had a Morley a/b switch. Thing's built like a tank. Thought it was kind of pricey when I got it, but useful when you need summat like that.
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Post by: Kwaping on 17 Apr 2012, 06:46
I can't say anything bad about the HOF reverb, but you can also check out the Hardwire RV-7. I had one and it was great, right up until I maxed out the settings on spring. Then it got a little artifact-y. But seriously, unless you want to do exactly that, it's a great pedal that can be had on the cheap, especially used.

Also, regarding tiny pedals: Red Witch Seven Sisters series. Not a lot of info out there on them, though.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Apr 2012, 07:41
GUYSGUYSGUYSGUYS
THINLINE JAGUAR!
http://proguitarshop.com/fender-special-edition-jaguar-thinline-black.html
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Post by: IDMG on 17 Apr 2012, 08:32
Whelp, time to go sell blood, semen and organs.
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Post by: Melodic on 17 Apr 2012, 12:38
Bought a TC Electronics Hall Of Fame, ordered a Morley Mini-Volume. Stoked!
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Post by: Bearer on 17 Apr 2012, 14:38
GUYSGUYSGUYSGUYS
THINLINE JAGUAR!
http://proguitarshop.com/fender-special-edition-jaguar-thinline-black.html

Damn, it's basically a P90 and minihumbucker short of my dream instrument.
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Apr 2012, 04:00
GUYSGUYSGUYSGUYS
THINLINE JAGUAR!
http://proguitarshop.com/fender-special-edition-jaguar-thinline-black.html

I just jizzed fucking EVERYWHERE dude, you don't even know
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Post by: Kwaping on 19 Apr 2012, 07:03
Wow, my local mom&pop shop has one. I didn't realize it was that special. Guess I should have tried it out. If it's still there next time I go back, I will definitely lay hands on it. Although it would really suck if I liked it more than my new Jaguar, since I'm past the 30-day return window now.
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Apr 2012, 08:52
Speaking of Jaguars, little Fender birdies are chirping to people about early-mid June release dates on these probably $400ish suckas (I love cheap guitars, sue me, fuck you):

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1835/squiervmjaguars2012.jpg)

Apparently there'll be Jazzmasters in the same color, and Mustangs in red/white/sonic blue
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Apr 2012, 10:01
Oh, the Blacktop B90 Jag?

Yeah, that thing..it's like an LP Special in Fender form. So sexy.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Apr 2012, 08:34
http://mightyohm.com/blog/2011/04/soldering-is-easy-comic-book/
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Apr 2012, 07:23
Body has arrived. Need to do a few things to it (remove the shielding put in for HB usage, which is covering some mounting holes for JM pickups, redrill a few pickguard holes), but otherwise it's pretty rad.
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Post by: Lummer on 21 Apr 2012, 15:18
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/544465_10150748192213559_586053558_9366562_1026170790_n.jpg)

Just added an old Marshall JCM800 bass cab. It's the 1552 model, meaning it's the same size as a 4x12, only a good deal deeper. It's fitted with two 15" speakers mounted diagonally and it makes one HELL of a rumble. I am pleased.
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Post by: IDMG on 21 Apr 2012, 15:25
What are you running in the rack?
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Post by: Lummer on 21 Apr 2012, 15:42
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2uonxMZwb1r9ly9uo1_500.png)

Pretty simple actually:

Korg DTR-1 (love this thing!)
BOSS GX-700 (Love this thing even harder)
Air
Cover plate
Rackmount 220V power outlet thingy to power the whole thing
Rocktron Velocity 300.

The Rocktron in particular is brilliant. Right now, it's running with one cab in each channel and it's brilliant.
The "Reactance" and "Definition" knobs are amazingly useful for the application I'm using it for, ie. playing in a grindcore band with no bassplayer. The Reactance knob is seriously a godsend, since it somehow boosts the lows to almost absurd levels. 
The setting that worked best, was the bottom bass cab turned up to around 6-7 on volume with Reactance on full. This gave a completely silly amount of low end, making a bass player officially obsolete.
Then, the 1982 on top with volume around 3-4 (it's ear height AND stupid loud by nature) with Reactance on 5-ish and Definition on full. Coupled with my Bolt Thrower wannabe patch on the GX-700, this gave a basic sound that can only be likened to something with Titans dickpunching mountains while several nearby planets explode. 

Of course, there's not a single tube in this entire setup, at all.

A nice little detail is also the fact that the Rocktron still has two extra speaker outputs, so I can easily hook up two more cabs, totalling up to four cabs. However, given the absolutely absurd firepower these two cabs alone give, I might never have to.
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Post by: IDMG on 21 Apr 2012, 18:26
Hm, 4x12 with 2x15, solid state pre- and power amps? Very Buzz Osbourne.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 Apr 2012, 20:55
Lummer, you may make sounds in low frequencies but cyborg bassist are going to eat your face off when you sleep. So never sleep. Because..cyborg bassists are not amused by your tranny guitar rig.
(http://mlkshk.com/r/EGXB)
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Post by: valley_parade on 22 Apr 2012, 11:59
Project in progress!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/Mobile%20Uploads/0422121454.jpg)


Still needed:
-redrill 4-5 pickguard holes in the body
-remove some of the shielding (which is in place for humbuckers, and blocking mounting holes for JM pickups)
-pickups (Getting the neck pickup from Channel One (http://chnlone.com/), may get the whole set. If not, a GFS bridge pickup)
-Shim the neck
-replace trem with GFS X-Trem
-swap electronics over from Jagmaster
-Take off Strat jack plate, slap sticker of scowly Dustin Pedroia over hole
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Post by: Kwaping on 23 Apr 2012, 11:21
I just got 2.5 new pedals over the last week, and one is coming back from over a week at the repair shop. New pedals are:

1. Plum Crazy Effects Squawk treble booster (actually, selectable-frequency booster), with si/ge switch

2. Catalinbread Semaphore Tap tremolo

2.5 Mission SP2-R expression pedal, to control depth of the tremolo dynamically (switchable to rate). woo!

Pedal that's coming back from the shop is my Monsterpiece Scratchy Snatch fuzz. The builder repaired it for free and gave it an upgrade or two to bring it up to current spec. All I had to do was pay shipping, woo! I didn't realize how much I used that pedal until it was gone.

I would post more of a review of the above pedals, but my damn Egnater Rebel 30 has gone belly-up for the third time in about a year. I sent it back for repairs (paid only shipping) a few weeks ago, and it came back with new volume pots and new preamp tubes. After about a week of enjoying it, it stopped making sound. I ran a known-good tube through all of the preamp positions, nothing changed. Egnater sent me two new preamp tubes to play with, still no change no matter where I put them (p.i. included). It still makes sound if I plug straight in to the effects return, so it's not a power tube.

So I have these new pedals and no good amp to try them out with. :(  At least Egnater is going to pay the shipping this third time around, I think.
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Post by: Lummer on 23 Apr 2012, 14:19
Hm, 4x12 with 2x15, solid state pre- and power amps? Very Buzz Osbourne.

Maybe.. Never really got that big into the Melvins BUT OH MY FUCKING GOD I LOVE THIS BASS CAB SO MUCH!
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Apr 2012, 14:38
Hey Kwaping, I'd love a full-on review of the Semaphore if you have time (perhaps in the newly-created Gear Review thread? :mrgreen:). Although it's too much tremolo for what I need, I'm really curious how it stacks up to other Catalinbread pedals, especially because it's a completely different design and layout than the Manx I have.

EDIT: Also mother of fuck Fender Telecaster Baritone for $550 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OESz83PEKaY&feature=digest_mon). I want this thing so fucking bad.
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Post by: Kwaping on 23 Apr 2012, 15:10
I'll do what I can about a review for you. It'll have to wait at least until I get my amp working again.  :x Also, I can't compare it to other c-bread pedals because this is the first one I've had. I can possibly compare it against my old Empress and Tap-a-Whirl though, if my memory doesn't fail me.
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Post by: Theyis on 24 Apr 2012, 00:35
Got myself an Ibanez RGR321, brand new at a sale at the local guitar store. About 40% off.  8-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq28xovp9mQ

Put some 12-60 gauge strings on em, downtuned to Drop B and I am totally rocking the sludge/doom sound now with my band. I'm totally in love with, especially how I can make it squeal like a pig when I want to, but it's absolutely dead quiet when I need it to. No more unwanted feedback for me... :)
They don't make the model anymore, but I'd recommmend it* to anyone who loves metal if you can still find it somewhere...




* Still in honeymoon phase, so take with grain of salt.
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Post by: Lupercal on 24 Apr 2012, 01:57
Speaking of Jaguars, little Fender birdies are chirping to people about early-mid June release dates on these probably $400ish suckas (I love cheap guitars, sue me, fuck you):

(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1835/squiervmjaguars2012.jpg)

Apparently there'll be Jazzmasters in the same color, and Mustangs in red/white/sonic blue

Shit. They finally listened. Amazing.

They will probably be around the price (maybe just under) of some of the cheaper Modern Player Fenders (the Marauder is around £300ish, as are the top tier Squiers)
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Apr 2012, 03:14
Shane, I am so fucking stoked to see pics of that! I can't wait until it is doneeee  :psyduck:
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Apr 2012, 09:07
MSRP is $499, so expect to see these street a little lower than Classic Vibe series. Apparently they're part of the Vintage Modified line.

While I'm very intrigued by a proper $300 Mustang and Jag, they're also doing Tele Customs and Deluxes, apparently (according to the specs that were posted) using Fender's current WHRBs. I'm gonna have to get a Custom, I've GASed over those things for so long.


(thanks Pat! I need to wait for this unemployment money to come in so I can get a soldering iron and ze pickups!)
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Post by: Lupercal on 24 Apr 2012, 11:53
Ah right. Yeah the tiny amount of research I did on OSG and around suggests that the upper end VM prices are £330 (Surf Strat etc).

I can't believe that they're doing student Mustangs, why on earth would you go for the Pawn Shop model when you could easily do something a lot better with a Squier?

It seems every so often you come and splurge some insanely nice looking Fenders on here and I get all excited thinking I'll finally have a bro for my lonely Strat.

The mod is looking good. Do keep us updated!
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Apr 2012, 14:02
using Fender's current WHRBs.

Wide-hum rangebuckers? I like it. They did fuck up pretty bad by not sourcing CuNiFe magnets. Novak is perfectly capable of taking care of that for any interested parties though.
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Post by: valley_parade on 26 Apr 2012, 11:31
Poject update: Shielding removed, neck shimmed. Debating clamshell tailpiece off Teisco instead of trem, but who knows. This GFS one seems to work alright (I threw a couple strings on to check action post-shim)
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Post by: Kwaping on 27 Apr 2012, 07:54
I finally got my Jag set up for 12s. I miss the easy bending of the stock 10s, but less floppiness is good. Too bad my amp isn't fixed yet, so I can't hear the mighty *clang*. :(
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Apr 2012, 07:58
using Fender's current WHRBs.

Wide-hum rangebuckers? I like it. They did fuck up pretty bad by not sourcing CuNiFe magnets. Novak is perfectly capable of taking care of that for any interested parties though.

By the way, that's $380 worth of pickups being put into $299 of guitar.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Apr 2012, 11:15
v_p that makes me want to go get some serious wheels on my minivan. Maybe a spoiler and 97 coats of candy apple lacquer.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 28 Apr 2012, 00:28
tranny guitar rig

what does this even mean?
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Post by: pwhodges on 28 Apr 2012, 00:49
Solid-state (transistor) amplifiers, with not a tube (valve) in sight.
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Post by: Zingoleb on 28 Apr 2012, 22:46
Ah, gotcha.
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Post by: Lummer on 01 May 2012, 01:26
So yeah, New Guitar Day yesterday!!

Yesterday a stupidly good deal came up on my local used market so of course I had to snag it. It's an Indo-made S520EX, and the real treat is, that it had a pair of Ceramic War Pigs installed already! Pretty neat!

I have had my S7420 as my main axe since forever, so I guess it was high time I got a little sister for it. Anyway, here are the pictures:

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3b5juneh71r9ly9uo1_500.png)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3b5kzNeKz1r9ly9uo1_500.png)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3b5mtwDWi1r9ly9uo1_500.png)

Sisters.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3b5rw5HOl1r9ly9uo1_1280.png)
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Post by: Lupercal on 01 May 2012, 01:39
Most of the time with Ibanez, the simpler the better. I also love the S/SA jack inputs.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 May 2012, 08:37
Fender GB is apparently in charge now, and the Pawn Shop series is getting a relaunch:

(http://www.andertons.co.uk/Products/i/xl__0143402306.jpg)

"Offset Special". If you swapped in some Novak JMWRs, oh hey wassup Starcasterish.

(http://www.andertons.co.uk/Products/i/xl__0146400300.jpg)

Mustang Special: now in 3tsb

(http://www.andertons.co.uk/Products/i/xl__0143300309.jpg)

This is a "Jaguarillo". And it is pretty cool.

(http://www.andertons.co.uk/Products/i/xl__0143502309.jpg)

Reverse Jag Bass, which kinda seems like a bass version of the custom shop Borracho model.
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 May 2012, 08:47
So apparently page 171 is the hotness. Nice page break, Lummer! Happy NGD too, that's awesome!

In other news, that Jaguarillo warrants further inspection... Looks like it might be the budget answer to the Johnny Marr jaguar, maybe? But not quite.
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Post by: doombilly on 01 May 2012, 09:10
Guys, I'll probably never do this... but if Parker ever sends my Nitefly V1 back from the factory, I am considering doing something ultimately with the pickups. The NFV1 is more like a Strat (SSS, 5 way switch, piezo is passive). It has a heavier maple body than my Nitefly M. Thicker too. In some ways, I'd like to set it up like my M. Which is a HH, with an active piezo. The new Parkers have Graphtech ghost piezos, a lot of folks have said they sound a lot better than the Fishmans. Meh, I am inclined to just not touch that stuff or yank the passives in there. I play my M with a mono cable anyway. I typically use very little of the acoustic pickups and mostly to just to add some high end to the DiMarzios. In any event. What options are available in single space slots for a hotter pickup? I'm not sure what's under the pickguard of the NFV1. So I'd rather not have to rout it for bigger ones. Also Parker has had it since the beginning of the year and I can't get them to return phone calls or emails. So maybe I'm just fucked. They weren't charging me for the repair so I guesss they don't feel the need to communicate with me. Still frustrating. I'm not happy with the way the SSS pickups sounded. My Tele and my Mustang sound better and they have pretty crappy pickups.
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 May 2012, 15:54
(http://www.musik-produktiv.ch/pic-100061611l/andere-saiteninstrumente-ukulelen-ukulele-spongebob-flying-v-outfit.jpg)

That's pretty much the worst thing I've ever seen.
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Post by: celticgeek on 01 May 2012, 19:57
Check this out. (http://www.mid-east.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ULTCL)
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Post by: Kwaping on 02 May 2012, 10:41
Firebird it is then.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk6qgg8dQ31qa8bdto1_400.jpg)

Hope that isn't a buzzkill, just wanted you to be informed.

In related news, here's an old photo of the ukulele wall at Buffalo Brothers (http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/83RZN1DngfIebEZprZyb4Q?select=m_-WRhrp7olHWV4MRZ0urw) (local guitar shop). I think they have a lot more now!
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 May 2012, 12:02
Technically, that's a mandolin, not a ukulele. They did an 8 string version as well. Because Firebirds are awesome.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 May 2012, 01:35
NSFW (http://mlkshk.com/r/FDBZ) Dano
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Post by: Patrick on 04 May 2012, 12:00
I never want to hear another fucking ukulele as long as I live.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 May 2012, 12:27
I already dated that girl
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Post by: Akima on 04 May 2012, 18:14
Underestimate the power of four strings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3RbO7updc) you should not (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUQdcHcEKKg).
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Post by: Patrick on 04 May 2012, 22:19
I got maybe 5 seconds into each of those songs before I closed the tab. I cannot hear another ukulele for as long as I live. I'm actually gonna have to start banning them from my open mics, it's getting to the point where as soon as I see one they make me wanna grab them and hulksmash.
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Post by: Melodic on 05 May 2012, 00:06
okay, so

i ordered two pedals last week from proguitarshop.com, who i've ordered from in the past. they emailed me right after it got shipped saying, woops, they made a mistake and only one of the pedals was in stock, the second one'll come later. okay, cool.

today i get the first package, i open it up to find... the wrong pedal. completely different, not-even-close pedal. but it's worth three times as much as the actual pedal i ordered.

dilemma! i like this shop, have no use for this pedal, and really just want the original two pedals i ordered. so i want to tell them they made an error, wait more time to ship the pedal back, and finally receive the products i wanted.

on the other hand, i could keep this pedal, sell it for twice what i paid and then buy the original pedal i wanted again.


tl;dr a website sent me the wrong product worth thrice what i paid for it. what do.
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Post by: IDMG on 05 May 2012, 00:41
I'm tempted to say "that depends on the pedal" but seriously, just send it back to them.

Also, thought the rest of you might get a kick out of this:
(http://i.qkme.me/3p2hz0.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 05 May 2012, 15:17
I never want to hear another fucking ukulele as long as I live.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 05 May 2012, 16:47
I have always wanted to smash a ukulele on a drumkit.

ftfy
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Post by: Lummer on 07 May 2012, 00:36
Small update on my new guitar:

Holy balls this thing sounds brutal. Really.

I did expect as much though, since it came loaded with War Pigs and by golly do those things deliver, in terms sheer furious grinding glory. I am currently so pleased with my setup it's not even funny, so therefore recap with pics, for those tuning in late:

Guitars:
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3m23yL94a1r9ly9uo1_500.png)

Gibson SG-I with a custom Bare Knuckle Pig-90 in the bridge. Basically a humbucker-sized p90 with a ceramic magnet, based off the War Pig design.
Fender/Warmoth Tele Deathluxe. Wax finished swamp ash, single Bare Knuckle War Pig (Alnico Magnet)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3b5rw5HOl1r9ly9uo1_500.png)

'09 Ibanez S520EX with a set of Bare Knuckle War Pigs, Ceramic magnet. Just picked this up recently really cheap. Currently my main axe for 6-string stuff in my Grind band.
'99 Ibanez S7420 with a single Bare Knuckle War Pig, Ceramic Magnet. "Refinished" (via heat gun and floor wood oil) and beat to shit, but the best guitar I've ever owned nonetheless.

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404646_10150473910093559_586053558_8498316_744779485_n.jpg)

Old-ass MIK Ibanez RG7321, with some pretty serious modding done to it. Turned out really good though. Seymour Duncan JB-7 in the bridge, wired for coil split.

Also, my rig:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3m115t2AA1r9ly9uo1_1280.png)
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 May 2012, 08:14
a website sent me the wrong product worth thrice what i paid for it. what do.

Call them up and explain the situation. Try to get some sort of compensation for your inconvenience. Definitely make them pay for the return shipping! Then return the wrong pedal and try not to die waiting for the others.

If it were me personally, unless they really kissed my butt with some sort of major discount, I would just return the wrong pedal (on their dime) and get a refund of any money paid. I would then take my business to Prymaxe.

Actually, if it were really me, I would have dealt with Prymaxe from the beginning. :)  Love those guys.
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Post by: Melodic on 07 May 2012, 11:13
I've never seen Prymaxe's website before, huh. I actually really like the guys I order from, proguitarshop.com, it's basically a mom and pop business and before this shipment it's always been peaches. I finally managed to get in touch with someone there, and I'm packing up the pedal to return now. The good news is, they're not waiting on it to arrive before sending out the pedal I wanted in the first place (that's trusting of them... ;)), so I should have everything sooner than later.
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 May 2012, 15:04
Prymaxe is somewhat new to the game, but I've never had a bad experience with them. They are a small, family-run (I think) operation out of New Jersey. Fast, free standard shipping and a huge selection.

They seem to be pretty much the east coast version of PGS, minus the killer demos. Their prices may be more negotiable though (they don't have to pay for an Andy).
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Post by: Melodic on 08 May 2012, 01:07
I've been looking for a good distributor that is willing to ship into Canada without any extra cost, I've been having to soak up $20 in shipping every time I place an order.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 May 2012, 07:10
Digging around Prymaxe, because WHY NOT?
http://digitech.com/en-US/products/istomp
Not sure I love or hate this idea. Not been very happy with most DigiTech fx though. Still that's a lot more compact than my Pod.
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Post by: Kwaping on 08 May 2012, 08:15
Prymaxe does free shipping internationally after you pass a reasonable spending threshold, similar to PGS. Prymaxe's limit is $5 less, which means they are fully aware of PGS's policy.

http://www.prymaxevintage.com/shipping/
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Post by: Melodic on 08 May 2012, 10:39
Doombilly, the iStomp reminded me a lot of the TonePrint feature in TC Electronic's new line of pedals. It seems like a pretty logical progression in what a guitar pedal is supposed to be. But I have my reservations, mainly in the distribution method and the price-point. TonePrint does pretty well by having a dedicated, well-designed website offering 100% free downloads, and if the iStomp behaved similarly I don't see why it couldn't be a fun tool to use.
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Post by: Kwaping on 08 May 2012, 13:42
So is the iStomp analog or digital?




I kid, I kid...
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Post by: Radical AC on 08 May 2012, 13:51
Neunaber came out with something similar (http://www.neunabertechnology.com/gear/pedal-customizer) a little while ago.  It looks more like what the TonePrint should have been with more consumer involvement.  Might be an interesting way for digital effects to go, but until it gets a bit more robust I'd rather use something like the M9.
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Post by: Melodic on 08 May 2012, 15:21
Really what I'd like to see is an open-source digital pedal. Why not? The iStomp, TC Electro gear, and Neunaber all prove you can cram enough hardware into a stompbox to be able to fiddle with it, so I see no reason not to open up that hardware to end users.
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Post by: doombilly on 09 May 2012, 07:43
Melodic, that would be cool.
Well, my thoughts with the iStomp was, Yeah it IS a multi-fx pedal, but only if you take time out between songs to swap them. What could POSSIBLY go wrong? I love my X3Live but lugging it on the subway with 2 guitars, a drum machine, mixer, gig bag and sometimes the Tiny Terror... it is a bit much. Usually I don't carry 2 guitars for these shows but I f'd up my main axe right before the last Brooklyn show and had to play with just the bassist, drum machine and my honky baritone voice. And I am miles away from being able to play all the songs on 1 amp setting. So been thinking about 1 very small overdrive or distortion pedal with very few controls. What's that little yellow one? That would fit in the guitar case.
Kwaping, yes it is all discrete analogue circuitry. Point to point wired by virgin artisans that caress each solder with love and affection. Tiney 1/4" cassette players provide the analogue delay. Required 9 v batteries charged with faerie dust and unicorn farts are extra. :P
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Post by: IDMG on 09 May 2012, 16:39
So been thinking about 1 very small overdrive or distortion pedal with very few controls. What's that little yellow one? That would fit in the guitar case.

The MXR Distortion+?
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Post by: Melodic on 09 May 2012, 23:23
The iconic one would be Boss' OD-1.
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Post by: IDMG on 10 May 2012, 00:36
Yeah, but iron maiden used the Dist+ so that's what I care about.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 May 2012, 04:23
Think I was thinking of the MXR. Small, w/ only two knobs. I'll name them both "Eric." :D
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Post by: Radical AC on 10 May 2012, 06:40
You cant get much smaller or simpler than this (http://www.lovepedal.com/pedals/amp_50.html).
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Post by: doombilly on 10 May 2012, 08:25
Nice. Also only 1 knob!

How Sears Guitars Changed the Sound of American Music Twice  http://chi.mg/IF84MJ
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 17 May 2012, 10:12
I'll take 10!
(http://www.henmanguitars.com/images/content/ModHomec.jpg)
(Only $5k ea!)
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Post by: doombilly on 17 May 2012, 13:12
I must say I like the simplicity of the controls, the finish, and the hardware choices. But not $4550 worth of like.
Also sold my last 2 extra amps last night. I'm down to just the TT/Avatar212 cab. Got kindof robbed I think. But I just did not need them and they were not moving on craigslist. Sold a Roland Cube 30 and a Fender Rumble 60 bass amp. Got $180 for the lot from GC. I think they'd done better if I went in with 1 at a time. But I'd already been down there last week selling the Princeton Chorus.
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Post by: doombilly on 18 May 2012, 05:25
Yeah. That LED thing is idiotic. Well the wife has a Markbass 1x12 with an extension cab and god's ampeg rig. So the Rumble 60 was just no longer useful. I would have liked to keep the Cube as a backup. But I have too much stuff. And there are other things I'd rather hang onto rather than amps. Plus I has a pod so...
Some of you may know this guy from TDPRI, I "know" him from the Parker forums. Anyway, cool guitar he ripped out of a big Doug Fir beam from his house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOvXh5Mrn7E&feature=endscreen&NR=1  he got a lot of the back design from the Parker Nitefly. I think he did a great job.
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Post by: Patrick on 18 May 2012, 13:48
So THAT'S what bass amp I've been using at the pizza place gigs. Idunno how you guys feel about how it sounds with a J-Bass or a P-Bass but my Höfner sounds like piss through it. I can't get anything good out of it whatsoever, and I'm really REALLY good at amps :(
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Post by: Patrick on 21 May 2012, 20:15
Those are both solidbodies, and it looks like a single-coil in the Bronco, a P-Bass style 'bucker in the Washburn. The Hofner's hollow and has full size humbuckers. If anybody's ever played another kind of hollowbody bass through one of those Rumbles, lemme know how it sounded.
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Post by: IDMG on 21 May 2012, 20:26
Well, I have yet to play a bass combo amp that didn't sound like ass, personally.
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Post by: Kwaping on 22 May 2012, 17:29
Picked up a used Deluxe Reverb reissue off of Craigslist last weekend. I've been wanting one for a while and finally found a local one for the price I wanted. The cleans are glorious, really getting my surf on, but my favorite fuzz sounds pretty crappy through it. :/  My old Rebel 30 head is a good pedal platform, it turns out.
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Post by: Patrick on 22 May 2012, 17:51
If it has an effects loop you should try running yr fuzz through that if you aren't already. That way it'll take your preamp signal and put that through the fuzz (then direct to the power section) instead of putting the fuzz through the preamp.
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Post by: IDMG on 22 May 2012, 17:58
The thing about old-style Fender amps such as that is that they tend to have a very big midrange scoop that doesn't necessarily jive with various distortion or fuzz pedals (especially if you use something that doesn't have a lot of midrange to begin with).

My suggestion: Buy a Pro-Co Rat or better yet, a Fuzzrocious Rat Tail. Rats and Blackface Fenders go well together.
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Post by: Melodic on 22 May 2012, 22:08
Patrick, the DRRI doesn't have an effects loop. Dorp!

Kwaping, if you aren't already try playing through the NORMAL channel. It might just be superstition, but I'm positive the Vibrato/Reverb circuit doesn't play as nicely with boost pedals. I know my Catalinbread Manx and Little Big Muff Pi both sound super-duper when I normalize the bass/treble knobs, not so much when I scoop one or the other.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 May 2012, 12:38
Oh, well, my Twin does. Figured it was a safe guess.

By the way, my Twin's getting fixed, and I am super excited to play her again <3
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Post by: doombilly on 23 May 2012, 12:46
My Twin did not. But it was kind of old.
Also lolbutts
http://theworstthingsforsale.com/post/23679795808/with-the-59-guitar-pick-punch-i-dont-have-to
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Post by: Zingoleb on 26 May 2012, 15:42
I actually used to make my first guitar picks out of credit cards. Then my tastes went for the super thin (.3 mm) picks, then finger-picking, and then they went to super thick (2 mm or so).
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Post by: Patrick on 26 May 2012, 19:16
Dunlop green turtles, man. Just bought something like 3 dozen on Wednesday. There's nothing I hate more than using picks I'm not used to, so I buy bulk just to make damn sure.
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Post by: Melodic on 27 May 2012, 02:38
I'm a Dunlop yellows guy, myself. Cat-tongue if I can find them.
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Post by: IDMG on 27 May 2012, 02:48
Purple turtles for me.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 May 2012, 07:49
I'm a Dunlop yellows guy, myself. Cat-tongue if I can find them.

Big triangle ones are my preference. But yeah, Tortex .73s are WHAT IS UP.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 May 2012, 09:32
Black Dunlop Nylon 1mm for the Parkers (09 gauge strings)
Blue Dunlop Tortex for the .11 and .10 gauge stinged Yamaha and Fenders
I used to use the Blue Turtles for everything but kept breaking strings on the lighter gauged guitars.
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Post by: Patrick on 27 May 2012, 11:07
Big triangle ones are my preference. But yeah, Tortex .73s are WHAT IS UP.

Oh fuck yeah, triangle picks rock. I have a triangle .88 that snuck in with the rest, and it is pretty handy.
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Post by: Lummer on 28 May 2012, 04:38
During my Hexis days I switched over to using Dunlop's Max-Grip series, 1,5mm. I felt I got better attack from the tortexes, definitely, but they wore down too quick. Three or four songs in rehearsal would leave me with a pick with a completely flat tip, and a coating of plectrum-dust on the guitar. So, I tried a whole bunch of different picks before settling on the maxgrips, since they were nigh-on impossible to wear down (for a plastic/nylon pick). I even came across some picks that made my little area in the jam room smell like burnt plastic and wore down in the course of one song. Nowadays I kinda stick to the Maxgrips since I've gotten used to them, and they are undeniably great for trem picking, and sturdy enough to have some heft in the chuggier stuff.
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Post by: doombilly on 28 May 2012, 13:38
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/turquoisemoleeater/guitars/FenderClassicStratocaster.jpg) Nylon J-Strat
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 May 2012, 15:36
New Gibson "70s Tribute" models, adding onto the existing line of 50s and 60s SGs and Les Pauls. Yow.

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Special-Studio-70s-Tribute/SG70SCCH1-Finish-Shot-jpg.aspx?KeepThis=true&)

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/SG/Gibson-USA/SG-Special-Studio-70s-Tribute/SG70SECH1-Finish-Shot-jpg.aspx?KeepThis=true&)

SG Specials (mini humbuckers!)...and..Firebirds!

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/Designer/Gibson-USA/Firebird-Studio-70s-Tribute/DF70SVCH1-Finish-Shot-jpg.aspx?KeepThis=true&)

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/Designer/Gibson-USA/Firebird-Studio-70s-Tribute/DF70SCCH1-Finish-Shot-jpg.aspx?KeepThis=true&)

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio-70s-Tribute/LP70GSCH1-Finish-Shot-jpg.aspx?KeepThis=true&)

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Studio-70s-Tribute/LP70S3CH1-Finish-Shot-jpg.aspx?KeepThis=true&)
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Post by: Patrick on 28 May 2012, 22:44
Oh hey Gibson you did something I'm not fucking pissed at you for, and you even priced it well. Thanks for FINALLY GETTING IT
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 May 2012, 07:55
Those faded Studios are pretty damn sick. Jon Lewis was playing one when I saw the Dopamines and it sounded massive. I want to say they have Burstbuckers now?

Ugh, I wish I had a job. I'd get a black SG Special and Old Black the fuck out of it. Because uh, great mash-up.
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Post by: Kwaping on 30 May 2012, 08:51
Hey, just got back from vacation...

Anyway, Melodic thanks for that great suggestion! I tried the fuzz through the Normal channel of my DRRI and it sounded MUCH better! You're a lifesaver.

In other news, I ordered some new toobz (TungSol 6v6 x2) and a bias probe. Woo! Don't you love how buying something makes you spend even more money?
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 May 2012, 09:53
Haha yeah. When I got my Muff clone, I'd thought about rehousing it. Muffs belong in big boxes, goddammit.

So I just threw down $20 on a copper-finished 1590 and some new knobs.
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Post by: Melodic on 30 May 2012, 11:40
What's the actual circuitry difference in a big-housing Big Muff? I can never spot the difference tonally.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 May 2012, 12:21
Are you talking about between a normal Big Muff and the current Little Big Muff?
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Post by: Melodic on 30 May 2012, 20:57
Yeah, specifically the Big Muff Pi versus the Little Big Muff Pi. I saw Mogwai last night, and Stuart gets some fucking weird tones out of his Big Muff Pi that I can't really comprehend, but I've never noticed a difference before.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 May 2012, 22:34
This (http://www.kitrae.net/music/music_big_muff.html) will explain everything way, WAY better than I ever could.
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Post by: IDMG on 31 May 2012, 14:08
Yeah, specifically the Big Muff Pi versus the Little Big Muff Pi. I saw Mogwai last night, and Stuart gets some fucking weird tones out of his Big Muff Pi that I can't really comprehend, but I've never noticed a difference before.

The thing is that the stock BMP and Little BMP are different circuits. The big box son of a bitch is much thicker and has a lot more bass to it, but I think it's also more mid-scooped. Stuart could also be stacking his shitty Dano Fab Tone with the Muff at times.

John Cummings recently switched to this (http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/video-mogwais-full-live-rig-revealed-391294), so he's a different beast entirely
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Post by: Melodic on 31 May 2012, 22:55
I've actually really dug the sound of my LBMpi feeding into my Laughton Manx. All the crazy scooped sustain from the Muff creates this really great, clipped tube crunch. Thanks for the videos, IDMG. I got a chance to see those setups from the front of a very sweaty stage.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Jun 2012, 07:37
J Mascis: Possibly insane. Proof:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/echosonic/d3709d20.jpg)
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Jun 2012, 08:19
I recall him saying something along the lines of "When I play a guitar I want it to feel like I'm wrestling with it" in an interview

On an unrelated note: Epiphone Casino w/ Hard case for $400 on Craigslist. Should I or should I not?
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Post by: doombilly on 02 Jun 2012, 09:09
If you are asking us about buying a guitar, you know it is always: "YES."
I broke the D and G strings simultaneously this morning.
Yes, I was being kind of rough. But both?
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Jun 2012, 11:20
That's a pretty decent price for a used Casino.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Jun 2012, 11:34
I know, right? I'm gonna test it out on Monday and if I like what I see I will have some sweet P90 tones at my disposal.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Jun 2012, 12:05
Oh man if I had $400 I'd just buy it out from under you, ya lucky fucker. Here's hoping it's in good shape.
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Post by: IDMG on 02 Jun 2012, 15:55
J Mascis: Possibly insane. Proof:

J also uses very light strings, I'm told, so it's probably not too horrible.

Also, I just got a Boss RC-2 Loop Station. Once I got a hang of the "single footswitch looper" thing it became a barrel of fun.

Srsly dudes, get a looper. Best song writing tool evar.
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Post by: IDMG on 02 Jun 2012, 19:21
The DOD DFX9 is alright and really cheap.
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Jun 2012, 19:55
I really hate my RC-2! Too bad literally all of my music hinges on it working properly!!

Basically, there are a number of things I think are wrong with the way the RC-2 works, mainly how you have to hold down the footswitch to delete a track, and double-tap to stop. This makes timing difficult and convoluted in a live environment. My ideal looper is actually the (horribly eccentric) Boomerang III but it's A) $500 and B) ugly as fukk.
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Post by: IDMG on 02 Jun 2012, 20:36
I've found that stopping playback and deleting the recorded loops at the same time is the most effecient way to do thing, though I think the FS-5U footswitch might be a decent investment.

Oh, I got my RC-2 basically for free. Traded out a Musket fuzz for it (good sounding pedal but doesn't get along with modulation or delay that well).
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Post by: Melodic on 02 Jun 2012, 23:17
Ugh, yeah, I could buy another clunky Boss footswitch to make the RC-2 worth it. Next problem? Need a bigger pedalboard. My PT-2 just filled up thanks to a PolyTune Mini and Malekko Trem.
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Post by: IDMG on 03 Jun 2012, 00:12
I'm just gonna make my own pedalboard sooner or later.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 Jun 2012, 02:54
My bandie and I made a pedalboard before our last show out of town. Took some high-density pressboard and then nailed cut-to-fit chunks of a rug to it for the velcro to stick to. We just use a OneSpot to feed 'em all.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 03 Jun 2012, 09:15
As a no-frills loop pedal my Akai Headrush is pretty awesome, and it's also a kick-ass digital delay and tape emulator to boot.
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Post by: Melodic on 03 Jun 2012, 10:36
I really dig the Pedaltrain because the rungs it sits on makes it perfect for hiding cables and wires, plus having a flight case that fits is nice when I don't have dedicated transport and usually have to throw it underneath someone's amp or something in a minivan. Blugh!
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Post by: Radical AC on 03 Jun 2012, 10:37
I'm waiting for this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=151FZ7k6KQ0) to come out.
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Post by: Bearer on 03 Jun 2012, 18:08
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/013/261/bcaa6fb09a988647e4034fb840412c53_large.png?1338612834)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deviever/console-ii-cartridge-based-multi-fx-guitar-pedal (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deviever/console-ii-cartridge-based-multi-fx-guitar-pedal)

Basically an open-source cartridge based multi FX pedal.  2 cart slots that can be switched from parallel to series.  Cartridges could be analog or digital in nature.

Seems pretty darn cool if you ask me.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Jun 2012, 06:42
That is the way to do tha page break. That's pretty durn cool.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 04 Jun 2012, 07:19
I was a little skeptical about that until I saw it was Devi Ever. That's pretty badass.
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Jun 2012, 08:32
My first reaction was, how is this that different from a digital multi fx pedal? But then I got to thinking... it's basically a hardware API that *any* manufacturer can build to. So you could potentially get cartridges from people other than Devi. That's what makes it cool to me.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Jun 2012, 08:53
Right. That was my thought too. I can get damn near anything on my Line6, even download and share with others if I was into that. But it'd have to go through that interface etc... To me this is the steampunk of multi fx concepts.
In other news, I need to get the guy who works for Prince to set my sh*t up, you know if I just didn't have the one honkin' Line board...
(http://proguitarshop.com/media/cms/blog/Prince_Pedalboard_01.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Jun 2012, 11:38
Nice pedalboard! Transporting it must be a bitch though. :)

I'm no longer surprised at seeing big-name players with nothing but Guitar Center pedals.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Jun 2012, 11:55
According to the article I read, he's always pretty much had the same effects. Here's the other deal. If you have some boutique effect, and you tour a lot. It is hard to get replacements. If you have something that you can get at any guitar center... I think the thing that has brought this home to me is playing parker guitars, or the Tobias and Carvin basses Maria had. They are wonderful, but you have to imagine some day your hot rod is gonna need to go to the shop. If you are in the middle of a automotive desert you are better off with a Ford than a Lambo.
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Jun 2012, 11:58
Yep, that is exactly why I said that. I've come to understand the whole easy-to-replace concept for touring musicians.

Too much TGP can definitely be bad for a person!
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Jun 2012, 12:05
Roger that. Speaking of which, still waiting for a neck resurfacing on my 1996 Nitefly V1. And waiting. And..
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Post by: IDMG on 04 Jun 2012, 12:49
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/013/261/bcaa6fb09a988647e4034fb840412c53_large.png?1338612834)
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deviever/console-ii-cartridge-based-multi-fx-guitar-pedal (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/deviever/console-ii-cartridge-based-multi-fx-guitar-pedal)

Basically an open-source cartridge based multi FX pedal.  2 cart slots that can be switched from parallel to series.  Cartridges could be analog or digital in nature.

Seems pretty darn cool if you ask me.

This is why I love Devi.

Also, other builders like Dr. Scientist and Infanem have signed on to build catridges for it, so it's not just gonna be dominated by teh fuzz.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 04 Jun 2012, 14:32
The Casino! She is mine!
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Jun 2012, 16:04
Congrats! Pics please!
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Jun 2012, 16:46
Update on the Console II: http://thegearpage.net/board/showpost.php?p=13234956&postcount=44

Updated list of interested developers!

    http://www.analogman.com/
    http://www.drscientist.ca/
    http://www.gheffects.com/
    http://www.infanem.com/
    http://www.jackdeville.com/
    http://www.ohnoho.com/
    http://www.paultrombetta.com/
    http://www.resonantelectronic.com/
    http://www.smallsoundbigsound.com/
    http://www.wamplerpedals.com/
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Post by: Kwaping on 04 Jun 2012, 17:09
Patrick, the DRRI doesn't have an effects loop. Dorp!

Kwaping, if you aren't already try playing through the NORMAL channel. It might just be superstition, but I'm positive the Vibrato/Reverb circuit doesn't play as nicely with boost pedals. I know my Catalinbread Manx and Little Big Muff Pi both sound super-duper when I normalize the bass/treble knobs, not so much when I scoop one or the other.

Hey Melodic, follow-up on this post... I was browsing a PDF of the DRRI manual and I came across this gem:

"The VIBRATO CHANNEL provides more TREBLE boost than the NORMAL CHANNEL."

So there ya have it...
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Jun 2012, 17:32
Those fuckers should have just named the channels NORMAL/SURF
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Post by: Radical AC on 04 Jun 2012, 18:29
I love my Shoegazer, but Devi's shop isn't as big as it used to be and she's had kickstarters fail before.  I'm just having a hard time finding the rational for buying a proprietary piece of hardware as opposed to just buying pedals.  More components generally means more problems.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jun 2012, 22:11
I'm just having a hard time finding the rational for buying a proprietary piece of hardware as opposed to just buying pedals.
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Post by: Melodic on 04 Jun 2012, 23:41
I'm just having a hard time finding the rational for buying anything as opposed to just buying pedals.
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Post by: IDMG on 05 Jun 2012, 01:01
I love my Shoegazer, but Devi's shop isn't as big as it used to be and she's had kickstarters fail before.  I'm just having a hard time finding the rational for buying a proprietary piece of hardware as opposed to just buying pedals.  More components generally means more problems.

The only one I can remember failing was the Dubstep project, and most guitarists didn't take that seriously at the time and now those stupid fucking hot hands things are out so it's pointless now.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Jun 2012, 03:04
Fuck yo delay pedals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbnrN-PV3U)
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Post by: Kwaping on 05 Jun 2012, 09:20
I just became a Carl Perkins fan.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Jun 2012, 16:42
I remember my Carl P 8 track blasting out of my 1971 Ford mono speaker going down an unpaved road.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 05 Jun 2012, 20:34
Sweet tap-dancing Christ, that sounded like 4 guitars at once...
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Post by: IDMG on 05 Jun 2012, 23:44
Yeah, it's really too bad that Rockabilly is one of the worst kinds of music ever.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Jun 2012, 00:08
I'm just having a hard time finding the rational for buying a proprietary piece of hardware as opposed to just buying pedals.

I'm actually warming to this idea...
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Post by: Lummer on 06 Jun 2012, 01:10
I really just want more cabinets.
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Post by: Jimor on 06 Jun 2012, 14:59
That cartridge EFX device just puts the image in my mind of the guitarist blowing into the cartridge for 5 minutes to get it to work before each set. :-P
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Post by: IDMG on 06 Jun 2012, 19:16
I really just want more cabinets.

Get an Acoustic 1x15.
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Post by: Patrick on 07 Jun 2012, 16:02
My Twin is about $300-400 worth of fucked.

Fuck.
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Post by: IDMG on 07 Jun 2012, 17:14
Did you blow an output transformer or something?
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Post by: doombilly on 07 Jun 2012, 19:19
If you got amp problems I feel bad for you son.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jun 2012, 22:33
I got 99 problems but a fucked up Fender tube amp ain't one.

Actually, current list of problems is only at 98! I scored a set of AVRI Jazzmaster pickups for my project on OSG today, superduper cheap.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jun 2012, 22:33
I feel like that last post may have also just jinxed my Champ into blowing up. Hopefully not.
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Post by: IDMG on 07 Jun 2012, 22:40
My amp is one of those cheapo modern day Chinese things (Jet City) and I got it used for $300 with the cab. On the day I'm looking at $300-400 repairs I'm in the position where I have to ask if it's just better to buy a whole new amp head.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jun 2012, 08:49
Yeah Pat at this point you might be better off seeing if you can trade that thing for a used Hot Rod Deluxe or an AC15.
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Post by: Melodic on 08 Jun 2012, 12:46
Fuck the haters, repair your goddamn Twin.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2012, 14:28
Did you blow an output transformer or something?

Yes.

And I'm repairing the Twin fersure, I ain't having any of that "smaller amp" bullshit, I like my 100w of clean headroom and I really really really love that 1/4 power switch for recording. I love literally every single thing about this amp and I wouldn't change it for anything, except that "broken" thing.
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jun 2012, 15:18
Logic motherfuckers. Patrick speaks it. Twins are awesome. You cannot deny. I will fight a deny-er.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2012, 22:20
Tell me it isn't worth all the hassle when it can do this (https://www.box.com/s/79d0b7235ae2c4ec57db)
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2012, 22:22
Also do me a favor and let me know if it's downloadable. It shouldn't be for another month or so.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jun 2012, 22:28
It is not downloadable.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Jun 2012, 23:11
Cool, thanks!
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Post by: Melodic on 09 Jun 2012, 16:15
Pat, the Twin has a 1/4 power switch? Does that actually get you nice tones at low volumes? I've been having a bitch of a time playing at apartment-friendly volumes and trying to eke out a decent tone out of my Deluxe RI... seems like those tubes just wanna cook.
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Jun 2012, 01:55
It's not like you're going to be getting any awesome speaker cone breakup, but it gets the job done for running through sets. I've never actually recorded with it at 1/4 power though.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Jun 2012, 12:22
ballzack!
Not getting the usual soundy-ness out of the tiny terror. Got 4 shows, a full schedule and 2 12hour treks next week. I think it is probably the preamp tubes. They all light up. I noticed one of the EL84s was not sitting pretty in its socket when I took the cover off last night. I re-seated it. Maybe that's all it is. Also I have a box of 19 12AX7 tubes of dubious quality. They really need to make a low cost tester.
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Post by: Kwaping on 11 Jun 2012, 14:02
How's the fuse?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 12 Jun 2012, 16:00
Pickups en route, and I may be getting a Paul Rhoney hardtail plate to fit over a JM trem rout.

Now to find someone to rout for the trem..
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Jun 2012, 19:45
What does the TT use for output toobs?
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Post by: IDMG on 13 Jun 2012, 00:20
EL84s I believe.
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Post by: doombilly on 20 Jun 2012, 15:47
Sorry been racking up the miles on the minivan. The fuse seems fine (wherever it is) :). I'm guessing shit would not work if that was compromised. I played 3 out of the 4 shows with the TT w/o problems. I think it has to do with the wonky electrical service provided by those fuckturds at Duke Energy. Also, if your sound person takes 40 minutes to get any sound out of the monitors you should be able to shoot everyone in their family. Let's just say we got off to a bad start to our 4 shows in 5 nights in a certain dipster joint in Wmsburg. The other 3 nights we fuckinz rocked.
Aaaand GUYS, I met an old dude who works at Electro Harmonix. He gave me his card. If I don't go to jail for shooting up families, I may get him to customize my Avatar cabinet. Guys a wiz. I think he's been there since he came back from serving in Viet Nam.


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Post by: Patrick on 22 Jun 2012, 16:45
Ugh, this reminds me. Still no word on my beloved Twin's new output transformer. Once the guy gets it in his shop he's supposed to call me and let me know what's up. Fingers crossed it's ready before the 4th of July hometown show and the Gilman show just days later. I plan on playing the Hendrix "Star Spangled Banner" on the 4th, and I just want to have our own equipment for the Gilman show. Looks more professional that way, and the Twin's sexy as fuck onstage.
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Post by: Melodic on 22 Jun 2012, 17:11
Dude how can you play Hendrix without a Marshall stack?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 22 Jun 2012, 17:12
Easily. 100w 2x12 combo in a bar with a standing-room capacity for 120-150.
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Post by: doombilly on 22 Jun 2012, 18:04
My ol' Parkercaster ships from Buffalo Butt, IL today. New neck surface carbon fiber goodness en route. 6 Months but they charged me $0.00 for a guitar that was made a decade before they bought the company.
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Post by: Melodic on 23 Jun 2012, 01:13
I think it was Kwaping that was having issues with a Big Muff through the Vibrato channel of a DRRI... I found a mod to fix that (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/202778-bright-cap-67-deluxe-reverb-what-do.html). Basically, the DRRI has a built-in bright cap on the vibrato channel that you can get rid of to make it more pedal-friendly. The only reason I stumbled across this mod was because I was researching channel jumping and am gonna cut the cap out anyway.
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Post by: valley_parade on 23 Jun 2012, 08:18
I'm glad I haven't paid yet, because this dude is taking FORFUCKINGEVER to get those pickups shipped out to me, damn.
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Post by: doombilly on 23 Jun 2012, 08:25
I think it was Kwaping that was having issues with a Big Muff through the Vibrato channel of a DRRI...

What's that, an electro-harmonix question?
(click to show/hide)
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Jun 2012, 19:10
Pickups FINALLY on their way.
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Post by: Kwaping on 25 Jun 2012, 09:17
Yep, it was me! I had heard of the bright cap mod, and also the Fritz mod sounds good. I'm actually working on learning to solder right now so I can do reversible stuff on my amp. I'd rather desolder the bright cap than just clip it, so I can take it back to stock if I decide to sell it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Jun 2012, 20:39
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/607872500.jpg)

To do:
-Acquire pickup covers
-Pots, switch
-Wire everything up (Not going with a rhythm circuit)
-redrill a few pickguard holes
-rawk
-perhaps swap witch hats for black Strat knobs for more late '70s vibe
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Post by: Patrick on 29 Jun 2012, 21:43
Hey guys, you know what happens when you record the same part in 2 octaves?

INSTANT 12-STRING
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 30 Jun 2012, 00:23
liek dis? (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/boss-oc-3-super-octave-pedal)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 01 Jul 2012, 17:38
Octave pedals don't give you the same 12-string shimmer you get when you record each octave onto separate tracks, though. That's how/why I do it, anyway. I'm one of those cats that just doesn't like to use pedals though.

I did use a capo (my trusty Kyser) on the 12th fret though. I doubt I actually needed to do that, but it was all arpeggiated chords, one of them being C, and I wanted each note to sustain.
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Post by: IDMG on 01 Jul 2012, 21:44
I was given a free 12-string acoustic but man is it a piece of shit. I might put a fishman in it, pick a sonic youth tuning and start making the anti-folk happen.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 02 Jul 2012, 09:00
I've had my latest capo for probably 12 yrs. Never use it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Jul 2012, 09:26
I always (and currently) lose my capo.

Which sucks because there's a few J Mascis songs that need one.
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Post by: IDMG on 02 Jul 2012, 13:20
I don't play enough of other people's songs to justify buying one and I don't play with one typically.
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Post by: Patrick on 02 Jul 2012, 18:51
I think most of you know I play almost exclusively in drop D. My most common capo positions are fret 1, 2, 3, and 5. I capo to 6 to play the Buckley "Hallelujah" (one of the few songs I play in standard!) and I don't think I have ever put a capo on the 4th fret.

EDIT: Wait I lied, I put a capo on 4 for "Seabound" in my band Sun Kin. I feel bad for forgetting. I guess that's what happens when Kabir's on the other coast all summer and I fill the void with my other band.
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Post by: valley_parade on 02 Jul 2012, 21:46
I feel like a terrible friend, I didn't know you played in drop D.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 02 Jul 2012, 21:47
I'm usually in a drop tuning, but which one varies. Drop C# most commonly these days (the bass can't handle Drop B with its currently string set).
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Post by: Patrick on 03 Jul 2012, 16:56
I feel like a terrible friend, I didn't know you played in drop D.

No worries. I meant to tell you a while ago about this specifically. That song Ramona is me and my Holler in drop D, the opening chord is 555033. I do it like that because taking away the major third makes it feel much more barren and lonely because of the chorusy doubled middle G.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2012, 10:12
The new Squier Jazzmasters, Jaguars, and Mustangs are out, and seem to be getting good reviews from the offset-minded crowds, from what I've seen.

Also, surf green Jags are just PRETTY.

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1350/dsc0503altsm.jpg)

There's also proper Tele Customs and Deluxes with actual Fender Wide Range hbs, but I haven't heard any reviews yet.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2012, 10:17
So yeah, I have new GAS:

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0301265505_frt_wmd_001.jpg)

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0301260506_frt_wmd_001.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Jul 2012, 11:50
I bet it's still got AlNiCo magnets though instead of CuNiFe like a real Wide Range bucker.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Jul 2012, 23:43
Well duh, it's Fender making them, not Telenator or Novak.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Jul 2012, 02:26
Yeah, well, boo hiss. Otherwise they're beautiful instruments, classic styling and everything. But shit, dude. It's the difference between a Gibson bucker (we all know what that sounds like) vs. the same pickups that were recorded on "Mr. Brightside". Love that song or hate it, that guitar tone is unmistakable.

Then again, so are *real* Starcasters.
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Post by: Kwaping on 05 Jul 2012, 07:36
So I almost picked up a cheap Squier Bass package (with Rumble 15 amp) at the GC sale yesterday. They didn't have any in stock or I totally would have impulse-purchased that for $250.

What's it like, going from guitar to bass? I might still seek out that package with today's fresh GC coupon. The neck of that jazz bass I tried felt really, really nice.
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jul 2012, 08:31
Oh man yeah. Jazz Bass necks are so nice feeling.

Switching over is definitely something that takes a little bit of time. I'd almost suggest starting off with a short-scale bass first, like a Mustang.
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Post by: Melodic on 05 Jul 2012, 09:33
I dunno man, I found the transition stupidly easy. If you can play guitar, 90% of the skill-set is already there. I moved from guitar straight into a long-scale P-Bass and didn't have any troubles.

(That said, I've always wanted a short-scale bass. Punk rawk, man.)

Also Patrick, what the shit is wrong with Gibson buckers? Wanna fight?
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Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jul 2012, 09:39
I think the argument he's making is that compared to the original Wide Ranges, the ones Fender are making now for a variety of products (MIM/Squier/AVRI '72 Customs and Deluxes, John 5 Triple Deluxe, Lee Ranaldo JM) are nothing more than a standard 'bucker, like the ones that Gibson makes, in a fancy case.
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Post by: Patrick on 05 Jul 2012, 13:49
I dunno man, I found the transition stupidly easy. If you can play guitar, 90% of the skill-set is already there.

On your fretting hand, sure! Doing the two-finger pluck was harder to get used to than I had ever imagined, though. I still can't sing and play bass at the same time. My bandmates give me shit for it regularly.

By the way you guys, I played the Hendrix version of the Star Spangled Banner at my show last night, and I don't think I've ever had that much fun playing a Strat. So much feedback, both resonant and microphonic. DELICIOUS. Pics (and possibly a recording) to come.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 06 Jul 2012, 07:35
Little known fact, Sting actually has a secondary brain in his tail to control his singing. That's how he got his nickname.
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 Jul 2012, 23:26
So... I got the bass package. Squier Affinity Jazz bass and Rumble 15 amp, with bag, strap, tuner, cable, headphones, and instructional dvd for $249. Not too shabby, I'd say. I'm trying to avoid the bass section of TGP as hard as I can, so I don't return it and get something that costs 4x as much. :)

In other news, my son got his first guitar at the same time - an Ibanez Mikro. That little thing kicks some serious ass! Obviously the short scale is not that great (22" I think), but the parts and build quality are both very impressive. Definitely not a toy guitar! I'm thinking it will be my travel guitar, if he ends up not playing long-term. Heck, even if he does, we'll just take turns!

http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/model-GRGM21
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Post by: doombilly on 08 Jul 2012, 05:04
That looks like a sweet Ibanez to start out on, and could be a great backup if he graduates to a bigger guitar.
Also, I'm probably going to piss some people off, but I always felt Sting was the weak link in The Police. His bass playing is kind of meh to me and now that the 80's are a long way off I really have to say his voice always sounds like a forced falsetto.
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Post by: valley_parade on 08 Jul 2012, 12:13
I really need a job. Cheap offsets, and now Fender's making an MIM Cabronita. Hoooo' shiiii'.

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/fender/images/products/guitars/0140072306_frt_wmd_001.jpg)
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Jul 2012, 09:59
I love the 1 pups switch/1 knob.
Anyone ever use one of these?
(http://di1-4.shoppingshadow.com/images/pi/b1/fa/3b/105175590-260x260-0-0_Electro+Harmonix+Electro+Harmonix+Nano+Double+Muff.jpg)
Thinking down the road I'm going to simplify more. Riding the subway with that X3Live on my arm makes it harder to navigate with 2 guitars, etc... Also I don't use nearly the bells/whistles on the multiFX pedal.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jul 2012, 10:11
The one pedal I will never part with is my Double Muff. Solid, gritty OD.
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Post by: VonKleist on 10 Jul 2012, 10:31
I´m just removing the bridge off an old guitar by heating it with an iron. I hope this won't turn into another episode of how i nearly burned down my hous4e.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Jul 2012, 15:53
The one pedal I will never part with is my Double Muff. Solid, gritty OD.
Good to know. I wonder if they do factory tours? I love Long Island City (which is neither in Long Island or a City). I love that it is so small and double stuffed with Muff.
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Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jul 2012, 21:15
I've got the original one, which was done in a bigger box for a few years before they switched it (and the Holy Grail) over to the nano enclosures. Same guts, though.
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Post by: IDMG on 10 Jul 2012, 23:34
Played a Fulltone OCD and really liked it, but I have a Devi Ever Hyperion on the way so I can't spend the money on one.
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Post by: Lummer on 11 Jul 2012, 00:15
I am unreasonably excited about the fact that Fender is releasing an affordable MIM Cabronita.
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Post by: Kwaping on 11 Jul 2012, 09:47
I don't think I mentioned, I got a Console I before the kickstarter ended. My plan is to use it for easier DIY projects. I've found that the most annoying part of building a pedal is wiring up the jacks, pots, and power. That is exactly what the Console project does for you, leaving only the fun parts.
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Jul 2012, 15:50
I do like how they started making the CP Marauder about 2 years after I emailed em about doing a reissue, to which they had replied "no"
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Post by: valley_parade on 11 Jul 2012, 16:44
To be fair, you can't reissue something that never made it past prototypes.
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Post by: IDMG on 12 Jul 2012, 01:54
I don't think I mentioned, I got a Console I before the kickstarter ended. My plan is to use it for easier DIY projects. I've found that the most annoying part of building a pedal is wiring up the jacks, pots, and power. That is exactly what the Console project does for you, leaving only the fun parts.

So sad I didn't get the money in time, but at least it made mad bank
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Post by: doombilly on 12 Jul 2012, 15:13
http://snakeoilrecording.blogspot.com/2012/07/experts-bob-dylans-long-lost-newport.html
Fuck an auction. I want to play it. Loud and badly.
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Jul 2012, 21:52
Acquired today:
-Pots
-.003uf cap (for bass cut switch)
-.033uf cap (for toneities)
-Toggley switcheroo


Oh yeah I decided I'm gonna use that empty rhythm circuit switch hole, throw in a switch, and wire it up like the bass cut on a Jaguar. Radtactular! I am so close to done. Just need the switch and pickup covers.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 16 Jul 2012, 09:51
Toggley switchamajig is the wrong one.

Oh well. I didn't pay for it!
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Post by: Kwaping on 16 Jul 2012, 10:22
I'm really enjoying playing the bass. Thanks for the encouragement, guys!

And on a totally unrelated topic, and completely off-topic for this thread... I briefly spoke with Jeph at comic-con yesterday. Woo. He looked totally worn out and mentally numb from the con. But I said hi anyway.
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Post by: valley_parade on 16 Jul 2012, 10:43
Speaking of basses, I tried out a Squier Jag Bass SS over the weekend, and I'm really disappointed. Liked the sound, love the price, pickup selection is exactly what I want (P+J), but I didn't get along with the neck. I think I needed more width, or more thickness.

I guess I should go Affinity P-Bass if I ever get around to getting a bass, instead.
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Post by: Kwaping on 16 Jul 2012, 10:55
Congrats tuathal! :)
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Post by: Lummer on 17 Jul 2012, 04:01
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m79jnbcFUe1r9ly9uo1_1280.jpg)

Sometimes, when I feel like being a real dick, I plug the Mesa cab into the poweramp as well. Seriously, this setup is so goddamn ridiculous now!
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Jul 2012, 04:15
I got to play a '63 Jazzmaster at my friend's family reunion the other night. I very nearly jizzed in my pants. Too bad the owner couldn't set the thing up to save his fucking life, the neck pickup was WAY too close to the strings and it drowned the bridge out completely when I set it to both pickups. Still, it was delicious.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 18 Jul 2012, 13:49
Considering that the Chinese have one of the strongest economies on the planet right now (and that despite the obvious issues of extreme poverty and sociopolitical oppression) it really should not shock anybody that they can make a really nice guitar.
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Post by: Kwaping on 18 Jul 2012, 17:09
The issue with Chinese-made goods is not that "everything from China must suck", but that many companies who outsource to Chinese companies do so to lower costs. Often, reducing costs also comes with crappier components and less attention to detail.

However, if a company wishes, they can hire Chinese manufacturers who cost a little more but will produce an equally-good or even superior product.

So the issue is not with who makes the product, but what the manufacturers are being instructed to make. It appears that Hagstrom (and other companies, like Suhr) shelled out a little more to get a well-made end product.
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Post by: Lummer on 19 Jul 2012, 00:41
I am legit gassing over a Squier Bullet Strat right now. I never thought this day would come  :psyduck:
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2012, 04:41
SHANE, TO THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW
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Post by: Kwaping on 19 Jul 2012, 09:05
What do you guys think of the Fulltone Secret Freq? I'm thinking pretty hard about it...

http://www.fulltone.com/products/secret-freq
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Post by: valley_parade on 19 Jul 2012, 09:07
SHANE, TO THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW

DO IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT. Or even better, get one of the newer VM Strats (they come in Charcoal Frost!)!
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Post by: Patrick on 19 Jul 2012, 11:30
Sup motherfuckers, this is a Squier in action (xposted to own music thread but it's relevant and I am an attention whore)

http://youtu.be/rJS3on5DLTY
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Post by: IDMG on 19 Jul 2012, 16:39
What do you guys think of the Fulltone Secret Freq? I'm thinking pretty hard about it...

http://www.fulltone.com/products/secret-freq

I think it's another fucking tubescreamer clone and I'm sick of those because I hate tubescreamers all over their puke green enclosures (I only like them in Guitar Rig cause I can roll off that atrocious clean blend).
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Post by: Kwaping on 25 Jul 2012, 14:16
I really love the sound of this pedal, but do you think it's worth the price?

Black Arts Toneworks Ritual Fuzz (Colorsound circuit clone)
http://www.prymaxevintage.com/black-arts-toneworks-ritual-fuzz/

I hear it has some modifications from the original circuit that make it a lot more pleasant. All I know is I love what I'm hearing in the demo vid!
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Jul 2012, 17:20
Get adamant about forming a solo project and really dig into what you want to achieve. Before you know it you'll be in a 5 piece and will have to break into hysterics to be understood.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 25 Jul 2012, 18:35
Kwaping, never trust fuzz/OD video demos unless it's by an impartial third party that lists their gear setup. Most pedals I understand well enough to buy before I try, but any dirt or boost NEEDS to be run at home before I consider purchasing it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jul 2012, 10:20
I really love the sound of this pedal, but do you think it's worth the price?

Black Arts Toneworks Ritual Fuzz (Colorsound circuit clone)
http://www.prymaxevintage.com/black-arts-toneworks-ritual-fuzz/

I hear it has some modifications from the original circuit that make it a lot more pleasant. All I know is I love what I'm hearing in the demo vid!

If you get a Black Arts pedal, I'd go with the Pharaoh over that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 26 Jul 2012, 13:42
Yeah, I was wondering if the Pharaoh can hit the same sound as this, but then be more versatile. The price difference is not as big as I think it should be!

In other news, I've been wanting to DIY a pedal and have found a few kits for the Colorsound one-knob online for cheap. However, they all seem to be in the UK. :/ I found a schematic for one though, I might just piecemeal the parts and breadboard it or something. I'd actually like to reverse-engineer the BAT Ritual, that would be my ideal solution.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 01 Aug 2012, 04:07
(http://i.imgur.com/ABmem.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 01 Aug 2012, 08:31
^^^ And that guy is 100x better than me.
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Post by: valley_parade on 01 Aug 2012, 10:08
A new, actual fitting toggle, mounting screws, and pickup covers are en route.

We are foam and wiring away from this Jazzmaster finally being built, my friends.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Aug 2012, 13:46
I present to thee, progress:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576204_10151977728090313_1818128519_n.jpg)\

(The toggle is en route, and the pickups still need to be mounted under the covers)
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Post by: Lummer on 06 Aug 2012, 00:21
Guys. I now own this:
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/549519_10151059781353559_1656309999_n.jpg)

Clips coming soon, along with moar pix.
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Post by: Patrick on 06 Aug 2012, 12:28
I want that Jazzmaster, Shane. I want your guitar.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Aug 2012, 15:22
Part together your own.
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Post by: doombilly on 07 Aug 2012, 15:42
5 guitars is probably 2 too many for this apt.
But I think I should probably just get rid of the tele.
I have the mustang, the single coil parker NFv1. The tele really plays better tan the mustang, but it was the 1st one. And s78 mustang > 95 mim tele. Teh yamaha, is good for playing unplugged as it's hollow body. So for diversity, I don't want to get rid of it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 07 Aug 2012, 15:49
5 guitars is never too many guitars.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Aug 2012, 16:41
Always have a Tele.

Ditch the Parker, they're so ugly, I've never understood your obsession with them.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Aug 2012, 08:42
Speaking of always have a Tele, I really shouldn't like this, but I want like five of them:

(http://media.fmicdirect.com/squier/images/products/guitars/0325202506_frt_wmd_001.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Aug 2012, 09:33
My vote goes to the Parker too. Those things... I seriously have no clue how that company stays in business.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 08 Aug 2012, 16:07
The tele headstock looks even stranger on a bass.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 09 Aug 2012, 12:39
Have you guys played a parker?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 09 Aug 2012, 16:25
I've played a Parker Hornet. It was okay.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 10 Aug 2012, 00:43
Have you guys played a parker?

This.

My BFF had a Parker nitefly sometime ago. Seriously, that thing was off the chain. They practically play themselves, and sound amazing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 10 Aug 2012, 03:34
I've played a few of em. I played a carbon fiber Nitefly, it felt too insubstantial which really threw me off. Lighter than my acoustic, wtf? I also played a wooden one, not sure what kind of wood though, and it was better, but just as shitty to palm mute as a Strat (FUCK YOU, VOLUME KNOB) with the bonus of maybe 2 more frets' worth of access. Mmmeh.
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Post by: doombilly on 10 Aug 2012, 03:45
I've played a Parker Hornet. It was okay.
That is a Korean made prototype. Not exactly representative of the line.
Lummer both of mine are Niteflys. (Chief difference in these and the more costly "Flys" are the bolt on necks). But that neck is really gold. I'm able to do things on these guitars that I would not have probably executed as well on either of my fenders, or yamaha. Mostly that is just my skill level. But clearly if you are Adrian Belew you can eke out a bit more. :P
Also, I don't think I would characterize myself as 'obsessed' with Parkers. MEh, for now I'm keeping all 5 guitars. I played the Yamaha for practice last night, but mostly due to being acoustic electric and not wanting to plug in for band practice. Our space is small enough we can run the drum machine recordings off of my wife's old cricket phone into 2 computer speakers, she plugs into the Mark Bass and I strum with no amp or microphone. I'm glad I went back to round wounds on the AEX500 though. The flats were too muted to play much unplugged. If you are in Brooklyn tonight we're at Hank's Saloon 9pm-ish.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 10 Aug 2012, 03:54
I've played a few of em. I played a carbon fiber Nitefly, it felt too insubstantial which really threw me off. Lighter than my acoustic, wtf? I also played a wooden one, not sure what kind of wood though, and it was better, but just as shitty to palm mute as a Strat (FUCK YOU, VOLUME KNOB) with the bonus of maybe 2 more frets' worth of access. Mmmeh.
ok, well they have some new Niteflys models that do not have carbon fiber wrapped necks, but all of them are solid wood. Typically the niteflys and mojos are all one-piece wood bodies too. They don't make a non-wooden guitar. I've never had a problem with the light weight or the controls location. But I can understand if it isn't your thing. I have just as many fenders. But like most Fly-guys, I don't play them very much any more. I almost hate that I don't even play my backup NFV1 that much, but the M is just so perfect, and the pickup output level are pretty different from HH to SSS.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 12 Aug 2012, 09:33
My Fly Classic has been on loan to my brother for like a year and a half. This thread gives me an itch to play it again...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 13 Aug 2012, 06:01
guy in the Hudson Dusters last night was playing a Sunburst 1963 Stratocaster.  That guitar has dirt on it older than me.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 14 Aug 2012, 00:13
Hey guys. Know how some of you wanted updates on Beat Les Troubador? Wellllll I posted this in the "own music" thread, but I'm going to exercise some exceptionally weak boarding and post our Kickstarter link here as well! (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/665073229/beat-les-troubador)

Relevant to thread: I play so much guitar on this album. Bass, too. I even sing backing vocals!
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Aug 2012, 10:17
Jazzmaster's at the shop getting wired up. Yeehaw!

Next project(s) to tackle:
-Learn to solder
-Build a Super Hard On kit
-Do both at the same time!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 14 Aug 2012, 17:16
Super Hard Ons are pretty simplistic so it shouldn't be that hard to do both.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 14 Aug 2012, 19:41
That's why I'm going with it. Also, the kit I'm looking at is about 25% as much as buying an actual z.Vex
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 26 Aug 2012, 23:15
So any one else like Guitar Rig? I jive with it more than the line 6/fractal stuff for some reason.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 15 Sep 2012, 20:58
This Jasmine by Takamine sounds super tinny and thunky, a bit more so than I like in an acoustic guitar, but with a little truss rod tweak it plays pretty dang OK.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 21 Sep 2012, 03:32
... Is this where I discuss the Infinite Guitars Cheat?
Meet the family. Most of them are chinese, but good luck, Guitarfetish, a good setup (If anyone's in New York, outside of the City, I have found a wizard and not too expensive tech upstate, does amazing thing with acoustics, too.), and attention to detail, have made them the equal of anything hecho in Mexico, and some stuff made in America.
Meet Trouble. This isn't an up to date picture, Trouble's got a compensated three barrel bridge (Wilkinson design) and Wilkinson tuners these days. And more dents. Trouble is actually on its second body. The first one died after someone who is not me, got a little too Keef, and put it through a Crate amp like an axe. And then pounded it more. Technically, it was still playable, but it was chunked. No, they didn't ask permission. This led to me getting Blondie below, and a replacement body for Trouble when we finally found one.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/TelemasterIMG_0017.jpg)
Yes, those are jazz bass magnets in the bridge pickup. Yes, that's a minihum in the neck. It twangs, it howls, it rocks.

But, you know, you can't live by Tele alone.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/XV-5851.jpg)
Sometimes you need a semihollow LP-like with a P90 in the neck and an overwound humbucker in the bridge.

And sometimes you just have a Blonde moment.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/P101039b0.jpg)
Trouble has a ceramic minihum, Blondie here has an alnico, as close to vintage 59 as possible. There is a noticable difference.

But sometimes you get tired of the normal routine. They can't stop us. Let 'em try. For heavy metal we will die!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/SubhumanPostFix2.jpg)
Mr. Malden's finest, a wicked blues playing machine, surprisingly. Very clear mids for something with insanely overwound Tesla brand split coil wired humbuckers.
This guitar sustains like Spinal Tap. Some people call it what happens when a Nitefly and a SG have nasty sex in the back of the van. They're not far off. Some neat features on it. The massive horn by the neck moves the strap button forward, so it's no longer a diver like a SG. And there's a little nitch at the heel, so you can lay your cord right over it, instead of getting it stuck in the strap. The tele-like knobs make it really easy to mess with the volume and tone while playing, as well.

There's technically more, but it's in the form of $25 necks and $30 bodies, about four of each, that are waiting to be worked on, and an odd little thing in the mail that was hand made. It'll need more electronics, but everyone needs a HSS around, even if it looks a bit more like a double cutaway LP than a Strat.


I suppose I should share why Trouble has a name. As Dr. Scott says, "From the day he was born. He was trouble. He was the thorn. In his mother's side." Day he showed up from the factory, he came with Jazz Mediums. Wound G. Nice. Nut was cut for Lights. Tune low E, the graphite nut split. Got a free bone replacement and I needed the setup anyhow, but that's just how Trouble is. He also drinks blood. The rosewood fretboard stays surprisingly dry when you get blood on the frets. Well. More disturbingly dry. Someone tried to steal him once, and they wound up faceplanting after two steps, the strap wound around their legs. Which is probably related to the neck strap button deciding to pop out the long way a month later right as someone picked it up, knocking all the other guitars over. And, of course, the death of Trouble's first body. The guy who borrowed it was a good friend and he might smash a guitar, but he normally wouldn't smash a borrowed one.
He's not even sure why he did it. But we're all in agreement that it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Trouble. Guitar has mojo. Not always good, certainly not always bad.

Blondie only has a name because Trouble did, and she reminds me of Debbie Harry for some reason. Also, she was way more caramel in the original picture, and wound up being blonde in real life.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 21 Sep 2012, 14:18
Helluva third post.

Holy crap yeah. He pretty much won this thread right out of the gate.

Warcabbit, dare I ask about your amps and pedals?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 21 Sep 2012, 16:26
Trouble got a name on his own. "That guitar's going to be trouble." "I told you it's trouble." "Where'd you put Trouble?" It evolves.  Blondie got a name because of Trouble.
There's actually another JT90 around with a name. The Creamsicle. I think I have a picture somewhere. It's not mine, guy at the shop played Trouble, wanted one, it was on sale, and boom.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/LaPucelle/Guitar/CreamsicleInCase.jpg)
That one just had the name from the moment it was opened... it was supposed to have a black guard like in the video below. Didn't. Not that it's bad, but 'Holy hell, it looks like a Creamsicle!'

Actually, I'm fairly light on pedals. I got the complete line of Danelectro Cool Cats because I got two different sets of what must have been demo units that were never used for $15/pedal.  Totally worth it. Then I picked up the Metal-2 later to finish it off. I've also got a Big Muff, a Boss Compression Sustain CS-3, and when Best Buy was selling 'em for four bucks a pop, a Chicken Salad vibrato, a Bacon and Eggs miniamp/distortion (not really bad, actually) and a Chili Dog Octave Down pedal (not great for chords, but I can fake a slow bass groove, so hey.)
http://www.coolcattone.com/product_to.html
I mostly use the Transparent Overdrive (Tim clone, I think), Metal, Vibe, and Trem. Sometimes the Chorus.

The reason I don't use pedals so much is the practice amp I use is a Vox DA-5.
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2012/Aug/GALLERY_Inside_Steve_Vais_Harmony_Hut_Studio.aspx?Page=12&#gallery
If it's good enough for Steve Vai, it's good enough for me. (Not that I like Vai much, but seeing that amp in the middle of thousands of dollars of guitars... that's funny.)

Main amp right now is an Vox AC30C2. (Got it used and terminally beered, put SovTek tubes in it, it lives again. But a bargain.) Because it matters what you play through, as much as what you play with.
Also, I have a ZT Lunchbox somewhere for when I want to hurt people. So small. So much power. But it's not full of tubes and it shows.

I wouldn't call this winning the thread. I didn't pay over $250 for any of those guitars. (Even the Subhuman - Mr. Malden was running a sale at the time. So worth it.)

One of these days, I should rig up to record. Till then, have some video of other people.
A crazy Russian playing a JT90 through a Crate. Shows good guitar face when the wah comes out. (I keep meaning to get a wah, never do.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Buis3HmFc
Guitar World showing what a Subhuman sounds like. The mike was off in this, I'm told, which explains why it's a bit distant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Udz-fuUDnj4 (Blues show up about halfway in.) (Hey! Chuck! It's your cousin Marvin! Marvin Berry!)

Sadly, there's no demo of the LPoid around.

Oh, the reason I called it the Infinite Guitars Cheat?
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Xaviere-Electric-Guitars_c_116.html
You guys do know of this place, right?

Not so very much money, quite a lot of axe.

Oh, actually, I do have a source for really cheap-ass pedals. I don't use 'em myself, but Joyo makes cheap but good clones. Been meaning to get the EQ, I could use one.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LZ1V1Q/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&smid=A12IPMVN62L4AI

But the most important thing I own is a Snark SN-2. Red, tiny, twelve bucks, and makes life so much easier.
http://www.amazon.com/Snark-Instrument-Clip-On-Chromatic-Tuner/dp/B003VWKPHC
To heck with pedal tuners. Clip the Snark on and you don't need to plug in, and you can read it in the dark. And it's so fast. And precise.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 22 Sep 2012, 10:06
By the way, I'm currently, if slowly, going through this thread from page 1 on. It is currently Jan 2008, and I am very much enjoying the guitar porn. Half the pictures are missing, which makes it a fun challenge, too, to guess from context. Ooh. And now we're at the slowly dawning realization that some Epis sound better than Gibsons, as Gibson slowly goes to hell... 2008, check. Also someone asking for a good starter guitar under $500. Really is a whole new age now.

I see much discussion of Sonic Youth Jazzblasters and J Mascis (which you can get for sub250 on the same bodyplan as Trouble - P90s, Jazzmaster, or humbucker pickups. (The P90s are _really_ good)) and Seymour Duncan, which amuses me.

Also, for some odd reason, a hatred for Stratocasters. Which is odd, because I really dig the harmonics a metal toneblock adds. It's so different from everything else. Even a Bigsby is basically bolted to the frame directly.

Also, mocking of people who play light strings. Meh. I'm strung with .10s and I'm happy. If I decide to rebuild Blondie to drop C, which I might, I'll put .12s on it. For standard tuning, .10s are fine.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Sep 2012, 21:28
But dude. Only douchebags or n00bs play Strats.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 25 Sep 2012, 04:58
And god, don't even get me started about how horrible people who play faded SGs are. Am I right?

So I didn't. Instead, I wandered off into the strange and wonderful land of china, where I got this for $80.
(http://i.imgur.com/t2zpH.jpg)
I did say it was in the mail in an earlier post. Showed up yesterday. Handmade, feels comfortable, a little heavy. Company apparently went out of business for being too expensive for the parent company (not Samick, the other one) to maintain. Natural binding, flamed red finish. Two point trem is actually pretty good, though it's condensed: the trem handle goes inside the block, not outside like on most replacements I know. Tuners are horrid.

Pickups are decent.
Thinking of replacing them with...
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Brighton-Rock-Vintage-Spec-Alnico-Pickups-Classic-Queen-sound_p_1514.html
this in the neck and mid and....
http://store.guitarfetish.com/Bigmouth-Bridge-Pickup-POWER-with-vintage-Tone-Bridge-Position_p_102.html
this in the bridge.

Videos tell me I'm going to have to wire the mid out of phase to get the right sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7av60tGoA (Brian Mays)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDk7Fl8pq4 (Bigmouth)
But I think I have a good idea here.
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Sep 2012, 15:18
And god, don't even get me started about how horrible people who play faded SGs are. Am I right?

no

So I got Grovers for my hollowbody, it's about goddamn time, too bad I got the ugly ones but that's all they had

Whatev, m0j0
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Sep 2012, 10:02
To be fair, Pat, besides musical talent and for some reason being my friend, you are a total numpty.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Sep 2012, 10:03
I mean uh.. <3
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Sep 2012, 13:24
(http://www.ehx.com/assets/jpg240h/double-muff.jpg)
ordered. happy birfday to me!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 27 Sep 2012, 16:09
Grovers. Hm. I don't know. I wanted to replace the tuners on the Canvas, but I'm not sure six on a plate will fit. It's not a bad thought, though.
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Post by: doombilly on 27 Sep 2012, 18:54
Sperzels or GTFO.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Sep 2012, 01:36
There are four Strat players I have ever heard who aren't shit-awful, and they are Jimi Hendrix, Mark Knopfler, Doug Martsch, and my buddy Chris. They are musicians and artists. Clapton was infinitely better pre-Strat (but in all fairness I think it's because he stopped doing drugs and being miserable, not the guitar's fault).

Confession: I had to use a Dremel + grinder bit in order to make sure the damn things fit properly on the headstock (this on top of having to drill a new post hole, new mounting screw holes, and Dremeling a wider spot for the ferrules to go). Just .5mm worth of material removed from below the lower mounting screw, they fit perfectly. I was surprised at how quickly it worked, too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 28 Sep 2012, 02:57
I've been using these. Wilkinson-licensed.
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Wilkinson-EZ-LOK-locking-Tuners-Black-6-inline-for-Fender-Headstocks_p_883.html
It's very simple, just a cross-drilled post, but it works really well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 28 Sep 2012, 08:53
There are four Strat players I have ever heard who aren't shit-awful, and they are Jimi Hendrix, Mark Knopfler, Doug Martsch, and my buddy Chris.

Mssrs. Cuomo & R. Gallagher would like to have a word or two with you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Sep 2012, 13:56
Cuomo's is a custom Warmoth, and I have a few choice words for Gallagher: "You wrote Wonderwall"
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Post by: valley_parade on 28 Sep 2012, 15:41
 :psyduck:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_2zTyjdaJbn8/S-M2hprMc-I/AAAAAAAAARE/eqsHaWDHaUA/s1600/80947932.jpg)
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Post by: warcabbit on 28 Sep 2012, 17:03
 :psyduck:
(http://i.imgur.com/ZhwZh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZlxQb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jrrC4.jpg)

For this, I probably qualify as a horrible person, I admit.
(two of these people are Ry Cooder and Dick Dale. I'm betting everyone can recognize the first. And most people can recognize Mr. Dale.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Sep 2012, 18:00
I keep forgetting Buddy Holly, dude rocks. He also didn't come from an era where guitar masturbation was a Thing though, so I figure he's exempt.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 29 Sep 2012, 05:47
Dick Fuckin' Dale owns your face and always will.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 29 Sep 2012, 07:03
Frusciante did some awesome stuff back in the day.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lupercal on 29 Sep 2012, 11:44
re Frusciante: He's not a bad all-rounder, really. His solo stuff is kind of interesting.

(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr267/Alexalbum_bucket/evhbozo.jpg)

Before the 80s, before Kramer existed, before he changed endorsements every other week, this guy played Strats. Or at least, had a Strat-shaped Charvel that he custom built, which I hold as close enough really.

I play a Strat. I hope I don't suck majorly, but its all I've got at the moment. And I refuse to get something different just because people go on about how Strats are 'overdone'. Whatever, they're popular because they're versatile and for some reason designs made over 60 years ago are still working today. Simple to maintain, great to play. I'll probably have the one I currently have for a longass time, so in 20 years it looks beaten up and 'cool' again. (It also totally turned me on to maple necks, which I always sort of hated before)

I'm always interested in what people do with Strats. The difference between say, Simon Neil (Biffy Clyro), John Mayer and Yngwie is massive. But that is to do with style along with sound, obviously.

Anybody have any experience with Godins? Some of their models look pretty nice and they're verging into my current price range.

Edit: haha, my 700th (Beyonce) post included something about Eddie Van Halen. How predictable.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 29 Sep 2012, 12:07
Godins are heavy, but good and solid, good sound. And Made in America. Or America-Like-Processed-Cheese-Spread-Food place up north. Any specific Godins?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 29 Sep 2012, 13:13
I am deeply, profoundly saddened that David Gilmour has not been brought up yet.
For shame, guys. For shame.
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Post by: valley_parade on 29 Sep 2012, 14:04
I am deeply, profoundly saddened that David Gilmour has not been brought up yet.
For shame, guys. For shame.

I have my reasons (aka I really don't give half a fuck about Pink Floyd).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Sep 2012, 01:15
That could not be any further from the truth, being a devoted Pink Floyd fan instantly knocks you down to "people who like Metallica"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 30 Sep 2012, 02:03
Why is this sub-forum entirely populated by snobs?
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Post by: Akima on 30 Sep 2012, 06:13
"people who like Metallica"
As long as they don't like Creed...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Pilchard123 on 30 Sep 2012, 07:26
Why is this sub-forum entirely populated by snobs?

Because it's a music sub-forum. It's a bit like asking why my fish tank contains fish and not, for example, cabbages.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 30 Sep 2012, 08:16
No it's not and you're completely wrong. I understand why a music forum contains snobs, but this place seems to have way more than the average quota.  :mrgreen: I won't throw rocks in glass houses though. Beavers in wooden houses. Tyrannosaures in meat houses. Thieves in stolen houses. You get my drift.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 30 Sep 2012, 08:31
Can't help it.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Sep 2012, 10:11
That could not be any further from the truth, being a devoted Pink Floyd fan instantly knocks you down to "people who like Metallica"

Better than "person who thinks Rory Gallgher was in Oasis", AMIRITE?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Sep 2012, 10:31
Whatever, I will have the last laugh when I'm boning yr hot-ass cousin.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 30 Sep 2012, 11:31
Better than "person who thinks Rory Gallgher was in Oasis", AMIRITE?

Zing!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 30 Sep 2012, 16:54
Can you all just put down your dick sammiches long enough to.... well I forgot my point. Hey look it rained today.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 30 Sep 2012, 17:54
Sorry, too busy rocking my handmade offset double cutaway bookmatched flame red HSS to care.

Actually really liking this thing.
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Post by: ackblom12 on 30 Sep 2012, 20:36
No it's not and you're completely wrong. I understand why a music forum contains snobs, but this place seems to have way more than the average quota.

Oh lord it's barely even snobbish anymore. It was much much worse a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Sep 2012, 23:57
Not to mention the complete inaccuracy of the quoted statement. It was never full of snobs, I'm just more than enough for the lot of you.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 01 Oct 2012, 01:10
SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF HOW AWESOME I AM

I'll buy you a stratocaster, dude. I'll buy you two.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 01 Oct 2012, 11:40
GASP
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Oct 2012, 12:15
Bruh has a beat to death, modded beyond restoration Squier Bullet.

Close, but not quite.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 01 Oct 2012, 12:26
Well.. I've got a Strat, and I'm pretty cool, I think...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 02 Oct 2012, 02:58
SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF HOW AWESOME I AM

I'll buy you a stratocaster, dude. I'll buy you two.

no no you misheard me I said "I AM A FUCKING CUNT AND I AM WELL AWARE AND I'M REALLY SORRY BUT DON'T WANT TO ADMIT IT"
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Post by: warcabbit on 02 Oct 2012, 16:25
So, what you're saying is you play lead guitar _and_ sing?

(Being new here, I'm going to point out explicitly that I'm just making a generic ego joke, and not serious at all. I'm vaugely concerned about tone not traveling well over the internet.)


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Post by: idontunderstand on 03 Oct 2012, 02:32
SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF HOW AWESOME I AM

I'll buy you a stratocaster, dude. I'll buy you two.

no no you misheard me I said "I AM A FUCKING CUNT AND I AM WELL AWARE AND I'M REALLY SORRY BUT DON'T WANT TO ADMIT IT"

Oh don't say that. You know what? You're ok.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 Oct 2012, 04:12
Well hey if you wanna buy me guitars I won't tell ya no
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 03 Oct 2012, 05:42
Aw. Um.

How about this?

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1QgoYgTJ_Bs/Sdv6AR1j2TI/AAAAAAAAAPo/-KcP6HgOyPw/s400/one+string1.jpg)
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 Oct 2012, 08:40
Is that the new Jack White "This Might Get Loud" signature edition? That thing is $4995 at Guitar Center, they're all sold out though. I'm on the wait list.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 03 Oct 2012, 11:09
I sure as hell hope it isn't!  :-o
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 03 Oct 2012, 15:40
Man, what was up with that? Portable diddley bow with a pre-wired pickup. It struck me as vaugely pretentious. But then again, had a U2 member in it, so...
But there was one objectively awesome scene in that movie. When Page put on Rumble and his face lit up and he kind of nodded.
That, right there, is the end result of all this. I listen to Page, and I get that look on my face. One day, someone else, maybe, they hear something I play...

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Post by: idontunderstand on 04 Oct 2012, 03:45
On a different note, the guitars Jeph is putting up for sale are FUGLY.

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/AMAZING-Siggery-fanned-fret-8-string-guitar-/00/s/MTYwMFg2NTg=/$(KGrHqJHJ!wE+TpmwVU-BQbPkPWMLQ~~60_57.JPG)
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Oct 2012, 10:03
It's like the thing was built specifically for me to hate it
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Oct 2012, 11:24
We had this argument about 7 and 8 strings way back in the day, let me somewhat reanimate it.


What the fuck is the point of fanned frets?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 04 Oct 2012, 11:39
They're supposed to be ergonomic based on the shape of your hand and how it moves.  This concept is not unlike toe socks or fanny packs.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 04 Oct 2012, 12:08
Um no, they give more accurate tuning. Maybe you're thinking of twisted necks.

It's still FUGLY though. I hope Jeph doesn't see this btw.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Oct 2012, 14:27
It also increases sustain on the lower notes because of the fact that the scale length of the lower strings is longer, meaning that there's more mass pushing each note out.

Who the fuck needs more than 10s of sustain anyway? Certainly not me, but then again, I don't exactly shred.
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Post by: IDMG on 05 Oct 2012, 23:59
Everyone because thicker strings are the answer to all life's problems.

And fuck, I'd buy that monstrosity if it didn't cost a significant portion of what I make in a year.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 06 Oct 2012, 06:41
Where's he selling, anyhow? I'm assuming ebay, but I don't know his name.

Speaking of that sort of thing, how do you feel about reversed headstocks, like Jimi, the Thunderbirds, and this Xaviere?
(http://i.imgur.com/zRtuV.jpg)
Same sort of result as a fanned fret or not?

I have to admit, the guitar I have with the longest sustain is Mr. Malden's Subhuman. I once put it down after a song, then looked around to see where that noise was coming from... oh hell, it's still playing low E. It's through-body strung, and... hm.
(http://i.imgur.com/xYg96.jpg)
That might explain it. The length past the tune-o-matic is really long, and it's especially long on the Es.
I might have learned something here I had not previously considered.
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Post by: valley_parade on 06 Oct 2012, 11:03
Who the fuck needs more than 10s of sustain anyway? Certainly not me, but then again, I don't exactly shred.

Sunn O))), but those dudes use LPs and Travis Beans.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 06 Oct 2012, 19:32
Up to 2009 in the thread, and I've just learned that Alto Music is actually a big-deal music store. I was there a few weeks ago. It's a drive north, but it's near a friend's house.
Very impressive place. But NAMM dealer of the year? Woah.

By the way, is anyone here good at figuring out wiring jobs? I'm really having trouble figuring out how I should do the rebuild on my Canvas.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: godinpants on 07 Oct 2012, 17:41
Hey, this thread and forum. Good to see you are still a thing.

I have sold all my guitars except my Rickenbacker bass.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 07 Oct 2012, 23:16
Welcome back!

Does that mean that you are playing less, or that you're simply concentrating on the bass?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: godinpants on 07 Oct 2012, 23:46
Thanks!
It means I'm focusing on the bass, and spent the money on modular synth gear.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Oct 2012, 02:19
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbiiaiIIVl1r9ly9uo1_500.jpg)

I've finally gotten hold of the elusive Peavey Rockmaster preamp!
I love this thing. The Ultra channel just sounds like the entire planet coming apart at the seams from Satan pounding it with a continent-sized hammer. Very good, I must say.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 08 Oct 2012, 02:26
Um no, they give more accurate tuning. Maybe you're thinking of twisted necks.

It's still FUGLY though. I hope Jeph doesn't see this btw.

Tuning, yes, but primarily intonation is the thing it's aimed at improving. Thicker strings are all well and good, but with extremely low tunings such as with 8-strings, the intonation can become less than ideal on 25,5" inch scales or below.
Along with that, high strings become needlessly uncomfortable to play to some people, for instance a .10 high E on a 30" will be a bitch and a half to play to most normal people.

Thus, multiscale instruments.
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Post by: idontunderstand on 08 Oct 2012, 03:42
Ah yeah, intonation. Google translate wouldn't give me the right word.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Oct 2012, 10:15
Grumble. Eastwood special edition Classic 12. Why don't I have $550 to spend on this? There's only 24 made.

Fuck you, bills.

(http://www.myrareguitars.com/guitar-pictures/eastwood-classic-12-string-electric-guitar-metallic-blue-limited-edition-featured.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 10 Oct 2012, 18:20
(http://i.imgur.com/nMd1P.jpg)

Not quite the same, I know.

Edit: Wait. Is that a 12 string? Wow. The angle fooled me. Wowwwwww.

C'mon, you can pay it off on the credit card over a few months, can't you?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Oct 2012, 18:26
I'm broke and unemployed, so uh no.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 10 Oct 2012, 20:10
Well, I find that a pretty good reason not to. Bummer. Best of luck, man. Seasonal employment is picking up, so there's that.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 12 Oct 2012, 02:12
I played in two bands at a show tonight. First time I've ever done that. Didn't think it'd be so tiring (I play several hours at all my jam nights), but it's two completely different dynamics, and switching between the two modes is pretty exhausting.

PS My 70s Schecter P-bass is the best bass ever, it is so responsive and perfect and the action is impeccable and it looks badass (natural finish w/ red tort) and yeah fuck yeah
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Post by: warcabbit on 12 Oct 2012, 03:29
Hey, guy who sold me the Canvas is selling a Wilshire. Do people like Wilshires here? It's $240, comes with a gig bag. I believe that qualifies as 'dirt cheap'.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 15 Oct 2012, 10:54
Do you mean an Epi Wilshire? 'Cause those are sexy as fuck.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 16 Oct 2012, 03:29
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EPIPHONE-LIMITED-EDITION-WILSHIRE-PHANT-O-MATIC-with-GIG-BAG-JJTB46-/390481006395?pt=Guitar&hash=item5aea7b4f3b

Yeeep. Seems to be the Frank Iero limited edition one. Eighteen hours left.

There was a Wildkat a few days ago, and another Wilshire.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 16 Oct 2012, 12:09
Guys

Stop putting a T in that word there is no T in that word

Seriously
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 16 Oct 2012, 17:52
Man, this t-removing machine I got from that old game sure is handy. Maybe I'll put a rabbit in it next.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 17 Oct 2012, 08:09
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/history/legends/wilt-chamberlain/wilt-chamberlain-lakers.jpg)

+

(http://jmibullfrog.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/the_shire.jpg)

= WILTSHIRE
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Oct 2012, 12:37
≠ GUITAR
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Oct 2012, 13:19
Wiltshire:

(http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/resources/images/2057385/?type=articleLandscape)

(http://trip.worldtravellist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/UkStonehenge-night-.jpg)

Wilshire:

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u188/Kii_03/fret3-21.jpg)

(http://www.lostworldsinc.com/images/1961EpiphoneWilshire-49A.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 Oct 2012, 17:57
Yeah, I was seriously considering buying a used one I saw a few years back, and then I actually played it...
The dude from Ratatat gets a fucking great tone out of his, but most things sound good when you run it through an AC30 cranked within an inch of it's life.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 18 Oct 2012, 02:43
Everybody knows AC30s are made out of magic

PS Shane post the link to that amp thing you showed me earlier
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2012, 08:29
Oh, yeah!

Jennings, the company that originally made Vox back in the 60s, started back up after Vox was sold to Korg. They make handwired greatness and Tonebender clones now.

http://www.jmiamplification.com/
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 18 Oct 2012, 23:27
Oh bollocks. All Cyclones should get this mod. And then be given to me.

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k7/andys_01/SquierCycloneModded2.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 19 Oct 2012, 01:36
Given my abject hatred fo Neck Pickups, everything about that guitar is WRONG WRONG WRONG WROOOOONG
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Oct 2012, 02:22
Given my abject hatred fo Hot Rails, everything about that guitar is WRONG WRONG WRONG WROOOOONG

Tailored to my own preferences, but then again, I'm one of those grumpy guys who likes to think he's an old man
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Oct 2012, 07:18
I didn't mean specifically Hot Rails, I just meant Musicmastered.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Oct 2012, 15:01
I don't know why you like Musicmasters so much, dude, I almost never use only the neck pickup.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 19 Oct 2012, 17:58
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 19 Oct 2012, 19:23
So I got a custom made Rat clone with the LM308 chip and some bass friendly features:
http://imgur.com/a/Qazqb

and it is amazing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 22 Oct 2012, 13:29
Man Shane I can get that sound using the neck pickup on an instrument that gives me other options too, is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 22 Oct 2012, 14:38
I fucking love my neck pickup. The bridge setting on my SG is way too brittle on its own, although it's great for surfy stuff. I would probably never get a bridge-pup only guitar.
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Oct 2012, 20:03
If you really want to get technical, you could make the argument that more pickups = more magnetic force on the strings (as well as less wood in the body) which affects their vibration.  This does actually make a slight difference in the guitar's overall tone.  I'd argue that given two identical guitars, say a Les Paul, with two separate pickup configurations (neck/bridge Vs. Bridge only) the one with just the bridge will have better sustain and more natural overall tone. 

Then again, it also might not even be perceptible.  There was a DIY thread on TDPRI a while ago outlining a guy who built an exact replica 1959 LP sunburst using period correct metal screws for the pick-guard and who molded his own pickup rings out of some plastic that was deemed hazardous years ago since he said it would affect his tone.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/194271-1959-les-paul-build.html (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/194271-1959-les-paul-build.html)

Actually, it's an awesome build thread and you should all check it out.  Seriously, this guy is master at the craft.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Oct 2012, 11:56
I love my bridge pickup, it's so snarly and bright and it pairs perfectly with the hollow birch body's full fat resonance. Fuckin' wood and pickups and shit all having a say in what creates tone...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 24 Oct 2012, 15:48
I call total bullshit on anyone that can notice the difference between a guitar with, and the same guitar without, a bridge pickup. For me, the added versatility of having two pickups is totally invaluable, but even if it wasn't I can't really get behind the whole "moar tone" thing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Oct 2012, 12:37
Spekkin' 'a one pickup guitars, look what Eastwood's just released:

(http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/GTRs/airline-bobkat/images/gtr_red-bobkat.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Oct 2012, 17:48
Now there's a single-pickup guitar that I can get behind.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Oct 2012, 02:37
Agreeed. Sum slide sex waiting to happen
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Oct 2012, 10:56
I know I'm late to this party, but neck pickups are the tits. I've got a Squier strat which I use exclusively because of the absolute caramel tone I get out of the neck pickup. Also, any Weezer song works better with a neck pickup in my experience...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 29 Oct 2012, 12:51
Also, any Weezer song works better by being a different song in my experience...

ftfy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Oct 2012, 14:05
This board really has changed in my absence if people don't like Weezer any more.

Not even Pinkerton???

But then who am I to talk, I listen to their recent stuff. BY CHOICE.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 30 Oct 2012, 01:10
It's entirely possible that most people here like Weezer and I'm just the asshole on that subject.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Oct 2012, 02:08
I'm going to go ahead and speak for Shane and myself both when I say that the Blue Album is tits with chocolate sauce
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 30 Oct 2012, 04:43
How can you NOT love Weezer? Is that possible?!

Worldview = Broken.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Oct 2012, 08:40
I'm going to go ahead and speak for Shane and myself both when I say that the Blue Album is tits with chocolate sauce

I'm going to go ahead and speak for myself when I say that Maladroit is actually my favorite Weezer album. The Blue Album is indeed 'tits with chocolate sauce', though.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Oct 2012, 14:01
Blue is literally my favourite album ever fucking made. I am deadly serious.

But I like all of their albums in varying degrees.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 30 Oct 2012, 17:05

Who's Weezer? Does he play guitar?


(http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/old%20man%20teeth01.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 02 Nov 2012, 07:39
Pinkerton is quite possibly my favorite record ever. I love it so much I wrote a Sociology paper on it. Anything that they put out after it has been garbage.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 02 Nov 2012, 08:10
*AHEM*

I'm going to go ahead and speak for myself when I say that Maladroit is actually my favorite Weezer album.

Anything, not even POST-MALADROIT...no. Post-Make Believe DEMOS. Have you ever heard the Make Believe demos? There was maybe one song that made the album, and it was probably the weakest of the demos. They were amazing.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 02 Nov 2012, 21:57
Guys

I just modded my buddy's bass so its two pickups run straight to the output.  No knobs, no bull shit.  It is a beautiful sound, like a growly telecaster from hell.  Also added a kill switch because why the hell not?

It was pretty rad to play for the 20 minutes I had it before the damn radio-shack switch I used broke in half.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 03 Nov 2012, 05:18
I thought about doing that, but I was going to use this instead.
https://store.djtechtools.com/products/arcade-buttons?utm_source=google-product-search
Two bucks, nice and durable, momentary switch.

I'm going to use it when I finally build one of the bodies I have laying about.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 03 Nov 2012, 07:34
I don't think arcade buttons would work, unless you want to be holding it down all the time while playing. There are two types of momentary switches - on-when-pressed and off-when-pressed. I think arcade buttons are the first type, but what you want for a guitar kill switch is the second.

I could be wrong about those particular buttons, of course. Just make sure you know what you're buying before purchase.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 03 Nov 2012, 08:27
It all depends on how you wire it.  If it's the type that's always off until you press it, just make it so that the "on" position shorts the signal to ground.  Otherwise, wire the guitar normally.  That's the type of button I got from the shack, but much less cool.  I'm totally getting a couple of those arcade buttons now though, those look great.
EDIT:
I'd rather go with these though: http://www.ultimarc.com/goldleaf.html (http://www.ultimarc.com/goldleaf.html) since they are the screw-in type.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 Nov 2012, 19:43
Dude, do they make a toggle switch version
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 03 Nov 2012, 19:51
I mean, a gibson style pickup selector would work too, you would just wire the switch in reverse so that one "pickup" is the output and the other is the ground.  Is that what you mean?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 Nov 2012, 20:50
Nah I wanna be able to just smack a button on my bass and kill the output so I can switch instruments with Matt onstage and not have to go to all the effort of using my pinky to roll the volume to 0 gently.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 03 Nov 2012, 20:55
Oh yeah, those are totally a thing.  Give me a sec to pull one up.

EDIT: Okay, I think something like this is what you want: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062542
EDIT:EDIT: This would be it, sorry: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062500
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 03 Nov 2012, 21:09
Yeah, on second thought, you're right. I do get pretty apeshit onstage and so does Matt. That button would just be a nuisance.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: warcabbit on 04 Nov 2012, 07:44
Oh! I thought you were doing some RATM/Buckethead music stuff. Not trying to have an instant-off.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 04 Nov 2012, 13:54
Warcabit that is what I was trying to do actually.  Although, now that I think about it, a kill-switch style out of phase or series/parallel button would be pretty righteous.  Unrelated, but righteous.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 04 Nov 2012, 13:56
Anyone tried out the Behringer VM-1 Delay? I've heard tell it's like a stock oldschool Memory man. (read: pretty much an exact clone)

Also, it's 33 euros, so I'm tempted as hell. All it needs is modding to have true bypass, which is easy.

I don't trust Behringer's build quality but I've heard it more or less sounds the same.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 04 Nov 2012, 14:29
Nah I wanna be able to just smack a button on my bass and kill the output so I can switch instruments with Matt onstage and not have to go to all the effort of using my pinky to roll the volume to 0 gently.

Maybe switch the type of pot you're using? I've got two audios in my Jazzmaster instead of an audio and a linear, and the volume just dies at about 7 or so.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 04 Nov 2012, 16:57
Oh, the pots are fine, I'm just lazy and would rather punch a button than twist a knob.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 05 Nov 2012, 05:15
1st show tonight using the double muff and not the Line6 X3Live. And a broken wrist. But hey, I've practiced some of the set this way. Thing I've realized is to get more of the variety of sounds I've actually gotten out of my neck only pickup fixation. So that seems somewhat relevant to the most recent Ford/Chevy discussion above. I'm not sure, tldr.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 05 Nov 2012, 09:17
Got some money, prymaxe has a sale. Can't decide between BAT LSTR or a regular ol' big box Big Muff.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2012, 12:43
How much are you looking to spend? The normal V10 Muffs are rad, but have you looked into dudes like Stomp Under Foot or Wren & Cuff?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 05 Nov 2012, 13:11
I don't want to wait for an SUF and W&C is too expensive.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 05 Nov 2012, 14:47
But SUF stuff is so good! Matt, the owner, is a regular at TGP and actually offered to fix an old Muff of mine for free.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 05 Nov 2012, 19:34
Maybe a Hoof? I've always known it was a popular pedal, but I recently got to try one and have become obsessed with getting one. That was a month ago. I finally have one coming in the mail - traded some guy a TC Flashback for it that was just sitting in my closet. I'd say I got the better end of that deal! Super excited. Dan Auerbach, watch your back!!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Nov 2012, 21:33
Oh man yeah, Hoofs are gnarly good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 05 Nov 2012, 23:50
Lots of indie pedal makers are cool dudes.

Unfortunately my amp decided it was going to explode today so no new pedals.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Nov 2012, 04:13
DB, good to see you back on the intertrons, I was wondering where you'd disappeared to. Glad to know you're safe!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 06 Nov 2012, 07:18
Hey WitTTTTTTTshire fans... $299 today at Musician's Friend, Stupid Deal of the Day. Better hurry!!

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid/
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 06 Nov 2012, 07:49
Dude, just because you played one crappy one, cmon.

I've played a couple Wilshires. They definitely look better than they sound, but they weren't horrible.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Nov 2012, 16:19
TTTTTTT

That's 7 Ts

That's 7 poops on your chest
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Nov 2012, 07:32
Let's see.

Strats: Never played one I've really actually loved
Pointy superstrats: I know they sound good, but don't like the flat radiused fretboards. Mostly designed for genres of music I give nil fucks about.
PRS: overluxurious for the most part. I like simplicity. I would play the hell out of a Mira or some of the SE line, though. They sound rad.
BC Rich: Ugly as fuck
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 07 Nov 2012, 09:01
I hate every style of Gibson that's not an LP or SG, and I hate everything BC Rich does.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 07 Nov 2012, 09:11
I think my hatred of Floyd Rose-equipped guitars is perfectly rational.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 07 Nov 2012, 10:58
I hate every style of Gibson that's not an LP or SG

what else is there, bro?
what else is there?!



PS: Hey guys, I'm totally shit at setting up my guitar, and I want to do it right -- talking string action as well as pickup height, et al. I've got an SG. Can anyone walk me through the tools I need and what to do to get everything just right?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Nov 2012, 13:43
...335s?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 07 Nov 2012, 16:00
Melodic, everything you need to know is right here.

http://bit.ly/QpkMHF
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 07 Nov 2012, 17:18
...335s?

Semi-hollows are gross
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Nov 2012, 03:51
Yeah, definitely. Those things suck ass

FTFY

Semi-hollows are gross

YOU TAKE THAT BACK
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 08 Nov 2012, 07:06
If semi-hollows were so gross, as you put it, would Lord Theodore Leo play them?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Nov 2012, 10:54
Something is off about 335s for me. No idea what it is. I played one once, and it just felt... wrong. I had no idea why.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 08 Nov 2012, 13:12
It's because you're a fucking filthy commie
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 08 Nov 2012, 13:59
I may be a commie, but I shower on a regular basis.
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Post by: Akima on 08 Nov 2012, 22:59
I used to be a commie. Isn't semi-hollow like being a little bit pregnant?
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Post by: Bearer on 09 Nov 2012, 09:19
One day I'm actually going to build that "semi-hollow bigsby jazzmaster P90/Mini-humbucker wired like a telecaster beauty" I keep talking about.  One day.  One day when money grows on the black walnut trees I need to make this guitar happen.  One day...

like this test body I made a while ago, only without that middle pickup and stupidly big f-hole
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v98/BOTSO/IMG_0353.jpg)
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Nov 2012, 01:53
Keep the middle pickup, just use a proper florentine F-hole
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Post by: Thrillho on 22 Nov 2012, 15:49
Bought a wammy-free Squier Strat months ago, and have finally found the wammy bar I own from another guitar. Put it in the guitar, played one chord with it, and fuck me it ruined the tuning like you ain't never seen. No wammy-ing for me...
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Nov 2012, 05:26
IT is like the previous owner did that and threw the trem bar away. WHAM-NO
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Post by: Melodic on 24 Nov 2012, 18:37
Why file the frets off? Best bow setup is high fucking action and bowing at the bridge, not at the fretboard.
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Post by: Bearer on 25 Nov 2012, 06:39
(http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr17/shanesby/guitars/minitele/scativarius/DSC08523.jpg)

Violins and guitars?
Here is the build thread (http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/100136-scattervarius.html)
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Nov 2012, 07:04
Oh man, I remember that build thread. Dude built that fucker in the middle of a swamp with almost no power tools, IIRC. What a badass.
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Post by: Akima on 25 Nov 2012, 15:30
Violins and guitars? Here is the build thread (http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/luthiers-corner/100136-scattervarius.html)
Oh wow! This is why I check this thread. Heart + Hands = Beauty.
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Post by: riccostar on 25 Nov 2012, 17:08
Has anyone had any experience with a made in mexico Stratocaster?
I've heard some people have had quality issues with them but would it be worth getting one as a backup to my Ameristrat?
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Post by: IDMG on 25 Nov 2012, 22:11
Has anyone had any experience with a made in mexico Stratocaster?
I've heard some people have had quality issues with them but would it be worth getting one as a backup to my Ameristrat?

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/fender-deluxe-roadhouse-stratocaster-electric-guitar

I have this one and it is very good. Maybe I'm just sentimental over it but I'd hold it up to guitars twice the cost.

But, this is the best MIM Strat because it has decent pickups (Fender Custom Shop Texas Specials). NEVER get a MIM strat with Humbuckers because they suck.
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Post by: riccostar on 25 Nov 2012, 22:46
Many thanks! It seems to be on sale too.
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Post by: valley_parade on 30 Nov 2012, 09:18
Somewhat, but not entirely sadly, the first guitar I ever really bought for myself is being sold today for rent money.

Not entirely sad because I haven't even played the thing since I finished assembling my Jazzmaster. Sad because I will now be lacking a Telecaster-shaped guitar. Maybe if I get some money for xmas I'll buy a cheap copy from Rondo and upgrade the pickups, though.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 02 Dec 2012, 19:57
So, first post outside of the Newbie section. I've lurked on the guitar thread for a while, and you guys have some seriously nice stuff on here. I stick to bass for the most part, but I have an ES-345 on layaway atm. Maybe when I get it after christmas, I'll post some family pics.

Also, what's your favorite reverb? Are there any good combination reverb-delay pedals for under $150? I've been looking at the TC Electronic Hall of Fame, but you guys like your pedals, so i figured I'd ask.
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Post by: IDMG on 02 Dec 2012, 23:32
The Hall of Fame is nice. That new Hardwire Supernatural reverb is pretty good too.
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Post by: IDMG on 03 Dec 2012, 09:21
I find Holy Grails to be way too muddy to be useful.

I also don't get what people like about spring reverb.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Dec 2012, 10:37
It sounds good and goes "FPHWOOOOOOOOOSHHSHhHSHSHhHsHShSHHSHHH" if you kick the amp?
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 Dec 2012, 10:42
TheCollyWolly: You should be able to find a used Earthquaker Devices Dispatch Master for $150 or less (check thegearpage.net). That is the best delay+reverb combo I can suggest.
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Post by: IDMG on 03 Dec 2012, 13:17
It sounds good

I disagree.
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Post by: valley_parade on 03 Dec 2012, 14:01
Yeah but you think ES-335s are dumb, too.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 Dec 2012, 15:13
Sometimes I don't know why I like you, IDMG.
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Post by: IDMG on 03 Dec 2012, 19:51
Sometimes I don't know why I like you, IDMG.

Because of that thing I do with my mouth.

And being perfectly honest, I like the stand-alone Fender Reverb units. But any other  reverb application should sound more like a cave then a spring.

Also, got a Boss FZ-2 and an Egnater Tweaker-40. The former sounds like a chainsaw going through steel, the latter is insanely versatile but at the moment is switching from Fender-y cleans to hazey Sunn amp style overdrive.
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Post by: Patrick on 03 Dec 2012, 23:07
And being perfectly honest, I like the stand-alone Fender Reverb units. But any other  reverb application should sound more like a cave then a spring.

Fender Reverb is the only good spring reverb, if you ask me, but I'm in a country and folk tinted rock band and that's just how we roll. Also doesn't hurt that it's built into my Twin. Convenient!
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Post by: Chad K. on 04 Dec 2012, 12:06
I have an Ampeg Reverb Rocket.  I actually got it because I prefer it's spring reverb to Fender's.  It has a slower decay, and there's not of that wierd over-ring. Of course, your preference may vary. 
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Post by: IDMG on 07 Dec 2012, 00:12
(http://i.imgur.com/WcDfBl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/gPRbyl.jpg)

I have a problem
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Dec 2012, 06:32
Yeah, but we pointed that out on the last page.
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Post by: Chad K. on 07 Dec 2012, 06:38
I don't see a problem.  I see a former problem.  A problem that went something like "I don't have awesome gear."  Problem solved.
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Dec 2012, 06:56
I was poking fun at not liking spring reverb or 335s.
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Post by: Kwaping on 07 Dec 2012, 10:16
IDMG, I fail to see the issue. Is one of your pedals not working or something?
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Post by: IDMG on 07 Dec 2012, 17:35
The problem is with my bank account.
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Post by: Patrick on 08 Dec 2012, 11:33
I'd like to take this opportunity to remember John Lennon. We owe so much to him as musicians and citizens of the world. Rest in peace.
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Post by: IDMG on 08 Dec 2012, 16:09
and Dimebag Darrell, whose music sucked but who didn't really do anything to deserve death.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 10 Dec 2012, 15:07
Damn right, you have a problem! Look at all that empty space on that board. LOOK AT IT!
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Post by: IDMG on 10 Dec 2012, 19:10
Damn right, you have a problem! Look at all that empty space on that board. LOOK AT IT!

I switch stuff around all the time.

Right now I only have one of the two planks of wood you see but it's packed to capacity. (Also currently has no fuzz. Too in love with the Egnater's overdrive).
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Post by: Kwaping on 11 Dec 2012, 06:53
Which Egnater? I had a Rebel 30 that sounded okay, but I had to send it back for repairs three times in one year! They did fix it for free, but I sold it for a Deluxe Reverb reissue.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 11 Dec 2012, 12:59
I played through my brothers Badcat today for like 3 goddamn hours. It was magical.
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Post by: Radical AC on 11 Dec 2012, 19:51
I just ordered a Memory Lane Jr., an Empress Phaser, and preordered the Dr. Scientist Cosmichorus.

 :psyduck:

I just used all my money.

To buy happiness.
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Post by: IDMG on 11 Dec 2012, 22:17
Which Egnater? I had a Rebel 30 that sounded okay, but I had to send it back for repairs three times in one year! They did fix it for free, but I sold it for a Deluxe Reverb reissue.

Tweaker 40.

Wasn't much a fan of the Rebels.
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Post by: Kwaping on 12 Dec 2012, 08:09
IDMG: I hear very good things about that amp, but I just can't bring myself to buy another Egnater.

Radical AC: congrats! Sounds like we have another TGP reader in our midst. I'm ashamed of my pedalboard - it's so much better than my ability!
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Post by: Radical AC on 12 Dec 2012, 22:33
Yeah, I read TGP sometimes, but honestly I like I<3Fuzz more.  I really wanted stupidly nice and diverse pedals to go with my ever mounting stack of dirt.  My new goal in life is to use the new Klon as a boost into the ss/bs Fuck Overdrive.  I cant tell if it is pedal blasphemy or just a really good idea.  Next on the docket is a couple of Iron Ether pedals and a Randys Revenge.  I will try and post pictures/demos soonish!
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Dec 2012, 08:29
You say you read TGP occasionally, but it sounds like you got the bug worse than me! :) Here's my latest board:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8223/8268909490_d2ec7ac161_c.jpg)
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Post by: Radical AC on 13 Dec 2012, 12:37
Nah, I definitely like TGP, but I really dont want to spend too much on hyped up John Mayer tone seeking.  I want to make noise  :evil:  The Klon thing is a joke (Though my name just came up on the Analogman King of Tone wait list, I am not sure if it is worth it to try out because of the price.  At least for now I know I can flip it for a profit if I want to bother).  Graduating in a week with my BA so I have been kind of celebrating.  I made up a whole excel spreadsheet of different pedals I want to get so I can try and avoid (foolish) impulse buys.  I went with the Memory Lane Jr. because I wanted a bucket brigade style delay with tap (and an algebraic 1200ms time!), but plan to pair it with a Skreddy Echo down the sound chain.  Also, I bought everything with online coupons so it hurt less.

I love your Monsterpiece, is it a one off?
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Dec 2012, 12:58
Yeah, everything on that board except for the Launch Pad was bought used from TGP (or better yet, traded for).

The Monsterpiece is a Scratchy Snatch. Not a one-off, but apparently he drastically changed the design. The new ones look nothing like it! It's one of those "never gonna let you go" pedals, super versatile. The Hoof is smooth, the SS is snarly, and together they're... smoorly? But anyway...

I had a King of Tone and liked it initially, then got over it. It's probably really good for playing in a band context, but since the odds of me getting into a band are infinitesimal, I sold it. It drops the bass out of your tone something fierce, couldn't hang with that. Oh, and since the Prince of Tone came out, the whole flip-it-for-a-profit thing has pretty much gone away. I did end up selling mine for $15 over what I paid, but shipping ate that anyway. They're just sitting around in the Emporium.
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 Dec 2012, 15:29
I do have a well-paying job, so yeah I can afford that gear. What I don't have is your freedom, musical ability, or time to actually play guitar. So don't feel so bad.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 13 Dec 2012, 16:48
The Klon makes a way better clean boost than it does an overdrive, IMHO.
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Post by: IDMG on 13 Dec 2012, 22:16
I personally think most overdrives are pretty much the same *Shrug*

So... is it worth waiting 10 weeks for Stomp Under Foot stuff? I really want "The Pi". Ramshead-y crunch but with more low end? Fuck yes.
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Dec 2012, 00:11
Well, if we're playing that game...


(http://i.imgur.com/iMnWZ.jpg)


Sorry for the shitty photo quality, I don't usually do the whole pedal-board whoring thing.

Also, Stomp Under Foot is awesome and I wholly recommend buying through him if you ever want anything closely resembling a muff sound.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Dec 2012, 03:29
Holy shitting christ you guys

My pedalboard consists of a Tonebone, nothing, and more nothing

How the fuck do you even use that many pedals in a single set
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Post by: valley_parade on 14 Dec 2012, 05:28
Yeah, the only pedals I own are a Muff clone and a Double Muff.

...I need some reverb in my setup. I miss that shit.
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Post by: Kwaping on 14 Dec 2012, 08:05
How the fuck do you even use that many pedals in a single set

Easy - I don't play sets. I just goof around in my living room. I'm not exactly a "blooz lawyer", but close.

EDIT: I could easily get by with the LTD SR and Hoof. The rest is just "flava".  Side note - I'm surprised at how similar the Plextortion and Hoof sound. Would never have predicted that.
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Dec 2012, 09:38
Eh, I play drone muzak. All the pedals are kind of necessary, plus I'm a shit guitarist.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 14 Dec 2012, 09:44
You guys are making me feel shitty about my Boss GT-6B I use for everything :/ Everything about it is great except for the overdrive, so I use a Bad Monkey for now. I wish I had the money to sink into a nice reverb/delay and a choppy tremolo.
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Post by: Thrillho on 14 Dec 2012, 10:58
You serious? I would just use 'clean, overdriven, louder overdriven for solos' if I didn't sometimes play with my mini amp and so I have a boss blues driver for that.

All I need my gitbox to do is be quiet, loud and louder. No further complications needed.
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Post by: IDMG on 14 Dec 2012, 23:01
Holy shitting christ you guys

My pedalboard consists of a Tonebone, nothing, and more nothing

How the fuck do you even use that many pedals in a single set

It's fun, that's how.

But seriously, I dunno. You just keep when you need to kick on an effect in the back of your mind and just... do it?
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Dec 2012, 04:50
I can't concentrate on that many things at once very well. I got pretty good at kicking in or out reverb for things, and channel switching on my Twin. Speaking of that darling creature, my dad fixed her for me!

~*~I'm so fucking happy I could cry~*~
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Post by: VonKleist on 15 Dec 2012, 05:17
Ugh.. I went to Musicstore yesterday to pick up some strings and they had one of these Martin Sigma 000´s and it´s beautiful and great sounding and the price is a joke. Damn. I´m behind paying my rent but I want this guitar so bad now O.o
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Post by: valley_parade on 15 Dec 2012, 05:51
I can't concentrate on that many things at once very well. I got pretty good at kicking in or out reverb for things, and channel switching on my Twin. Speaking of that darling creature, my dad fixed her for me!

~*~I'm so fucking happy I could cry~*~

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: Bearer on 15 Dec 2012, 06:09
I've had to replace the reverb tank on my twin, so now when you go over a 3 on the knob it turns that juicy sweet reverb into feedbacky death spring noises.  You'd think this was a bad thing.  Really isn't.

Fender twin + Boss CS-2 compression + CE-5 Chorus with the Firebird.  I think when I finally do get another pedal, it'll probably be some flavor of distortion.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 15 Dec 2012, 08:52
Glad someone else is rocking a manx. I just scored an experimental one with a toggle between germanium, silicone, and both and it sounds like sex in my ear canal.
Also, Bearer. I had that problem on my DRRI. It turned out to be a microphonic tube and had nothing to do with the reverb tank.
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Post by: riccostar on 15 Dec 2012, 17:03
I saw a kid playing a wood finish Les Paul yesterday and it was obviously brand new, I didn't get a very good look at it but I'd say it was manufactured this year.  For some reason I just didn't like it at all.  Does anyone have opinions on the new Les Pauls?
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Dec 2012, 18:15
Gibson is not allowed to ever have new ideas.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 15 Dec 2012, 18:33
If it was one of the new Les Paul Customs with a baked maple fretboard, I actually kinda want it :(
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Post by: doombilly on 16 Dec 2012, 07:42
Hi guys. Left (fretting) radius is healing nicely. Only wearing a brace now. Can play gtr without.
Also wifey got an upright bass. Expect our old school jazz band someday. Will take her some time to master. And I suck too much for jazz. So I need to get on that when I've gotten full use of my paw.
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Post by: celticgeek on 16 Dec 2012, 10:26
Great news, doombilly!  Keep on getting well. 

In other news, I like to keep my pedal board simple. (http://www.guitarcenter.com/K-M-Guitar-Footrest-450471-i1320524.gc)
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Post by: Radical AC on 16 Dec 2012, 11:48
I just don't like Gibson guitars, myself.  From their factory conditions, to their qc, to their pricing I am off put by them all around.  Fender is just way better an all those categories right now if I wanted to go with a bigger manufacturer instrument.  My next two guitar purchases are going to be small builders.  I plan to order a Bilt Revelator and an Electrical Guitar Company guitar.  Won't be able to order them until summer time, though.

I did see something Gibson(esque?) I really liked.  On the Orion guitar straps homepage they have [img=http://www.orionguitargear.com/images/slider/1.jpg]http://this image[/img].  I think it is a Les Pail Special one off given the pickguard and electronics positions, but can't find another like it or anyone that makes anything like it.
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Post by: Thrillho on 16 Dec 2012, 11:59
The only Gibson I like, which is frequently the exception to many of the rules you've said, is the SG, which I usually appreciate in most of its forms.
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Post by: Melodic on 16 Dec 2012, 12:25
I had to hunt high and low for the right SG, but when I found it I haven't been able to pick up another guitar since. I know Gibson's got a shoddy track record in the factory, but when they nail it they fuckin' nail it.
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Post by: Bearer on 16 Dec 2012, 12:45
My '06 Firebird VII is sturdy as all hell, sounds great and plays fantastically.  That said, I didn't have to pay full price for it, since it was got used with a few paint chips.  If I'd have had to shell out Gibson's price for a new guitar, I would have just gone with a custom built one.  That or actually pull the trigger on a home-made job.

EDIT: Shit, after reading this thread (http://forum.gibson.com/index.php?/topic/55825-gibson-firebird-vii-2006-real-specifications/), I think I might have to eat my hat...  Next chance I get, I'm taking out that neck pickup and checking this out.
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Post by: Radical AC on 16 Dec 2012, 13:27
When if comes to firebirds I really like what I have heard about Kauer Banshees and Fano non-reverse firebirds.  Both are over $2000, which means I probably won't get around to purchasing one.  But damn Bearer, if
(click to show/hide)
isn't the best looking Gibson I've seen.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Dec 2012, 14:15
Fuck me blind with a razor dildo, that's gorgeous.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 16 Dec 2012, 17:41
That Firebird is awe-inspiring.

What do you guys think of pure nickel strings?
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Post by: riccostar on 16 Dec 2012, 19:15
I like them a good deal, I find them to be pretty warm and good for bending hard.

A lot of people are allergic to nickel though  :-\
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Post by: Patrick on 17 Dec 2012, 02:11
I love the way they sound on every guitar I've put em on. They've got a special sort of clarity that makes my holler's snarly bits even snarlier. I love it. :D
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Post by: valley_parade on 17 Dec 2012, 07:41
My girlfriend got me a White Falcon for xmas!

(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/captain_applesauce/Mobile%20Uploads/1217121034.jpg)

...it may just be a small tree ornament, but it's the closest to an actual Falcon I'll ever get, besides if I save up for an Eastwood Classic 6.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 20 Dec 2012, 08:21
Saw Silversun Pickups about a week ago and the guy was using a Firebird with P90's in it. The tone he got out of it was immaculate.
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Post by: Patrick on 20 Dec 2012, 11:00
What amp was he using?
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Post by: Kwaping on 20 Dec 2012, 16:21
I love "It's Nice To Know You Work Alone"! I play that riff a lot when goofing around.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 20 Dec 2012, 18:39
Mesa for dirt, dual rectifier I think. He was using a Fender Twin for cleans.
I was holding out for that song, but sadly to no avail.
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Post by: Kwaping on 21 Dec 2012, 11:53
Are you serious?? That's their best song! I can't believe they didn't play it. Demand a refund.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 21 Dec 2012, 19:16
I'm getting my ES345 tomorrow and I'm reallyexcitedohmygod
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Post by: Bearer on 22 Dec 2012, 09:39
So after further inspection, my pelham blue firebird VII does really have a neck-through body, much to my relief.  Instead of mahogany with black walnut wings however, it's all mahogany.  Not really a bad thing since it still sounds/plays great, but all the same I wish Gibson had kept this so-called reproduction model accurate.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Dec 2012, 08:58
I'm getting my ES345 tomorrow and I'm reallyexcitedohmygod

post/av synergy, expert level
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 23 Dec 2012, 20:33
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7509/60284935481610814101308.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/60284935481610814101308.jpg/)


It's awesome.

Also, I tried out a few amps today, particularly the Egnater Tweaker 40. It was really nice, but then I tried an AC15.

I'm gettin one of dems.

Although, it was in the worst Guitar Center I've ever been in. The guy who helped me out finding a cable in that disaster of a sales floor had the biggest fucking gauges I've ever seen and told me that the AC15 was "okay, but not good for SHREDDING". There was also a girl in the acoustic room trying to decide on her first guitar. She was choosing between a Taylor 314ce and 414ce, and decided on the 414 because the "wood stuff is prettier". Then her mom bought her a $2000 first guitar and asked the sales guy about lessons.
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Post by: riccostar on 23 Dec 2012, 21:57
Very beautiful, and I applaud you for your self control at the guitar centre  :angel:
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Dec 2012, 05:44
Ah man, AC15s apparently make everything sound good.

And as an aside, I've been GASing over those Epi 345s ever since they released them last year. Great buy!
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Post by: Kwaping on 24 Dec 2012, 09:46
Congrats on the beautiful new guitar!
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 24 Dec 2012, 19:51
If you're GASsing for a 335 and you get a chance at one, snap that shit up. I was lucky to find it before it was discontinued and put it on layaway.  It's got such a full, open sound with crispy top end and a huge amount of control. Also, I'm not a fan of trems in general, but the big hunk of metal at the bridge really helps the balance (an issue that just kills SGs for me).
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Post by: Akima on 25 Dec 2012, 13:16
There was also a girl in the acoustic room trying to decide on her first guitar. She was choosing between a Taylor 314ce and 414ce, and decided on the 414 because the "wood stuff is prettier". Then her mom bought her a $2000 first guitar and asked the sales guy about lessons.
Just think what an nice guitar that will be for someone when it comes on the second-hand market in a few months...

Yes, yes... I know... "Booyah! Elitist trap sprung!"
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 25 Dec 2012, 13:26
Considering the price of many instruments parents get their kids (Pianos, cellos, ect) even a really nice guitar can be relatively inexpensive in comparison.  That girl will probably get a Land Rover at 15, it happens.  It just seems ridiculous to us because GAH I want that there is $32.08 in my checking account do you do payment plans
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 26 Dec 2012, 07:56
While a $2k guitar might be a lot for a beginner, it is true that playing on a nice instrument is more enjoyable than playing on a crappy one. If that nice instrument inspires the girl to continue playing where a crappy one would have turned her off, what then? If someone can afford it, I say "why not". I am guessing that $2k is a fairly minor investment for that particular family.

You can be envious all you want (and I am!!), but you can't say they made a poor decision.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2012, 14:32
CollyWolly, we have such similar tastes. Are you my long lost twin?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 26 Dec 2012, 15:33
You say "long lost twin" and I think "Twin Reverb barn find".

I have a sickness.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 26 Dec 2012, 15:55
Although, it was in the worst Guitar Center I've ever been in. The guy who helped me out finding a cable in that disaster of a sales floor had the biggest fucking gauges I've ever seen and told me that the AC15 was "okay, but not good for SHREDDING". There was also a girl in the acoustic room trying to decide on her first guitar. She was choosing between a Taylor 314ce and 414ce, and decided on the 414 because the "wood stuff is prettier". Then her mom bought her a $2000 first guitar and asked the sales guy about lessons.

That's what you call a shitty guitar center experience? Try some hipster douchebag behind the counter budding in on a conversation with your friend every 5 minutes just to brag about how much he knows about Dan Auerbach while giving you shit about the gear you have and trying to hock some stupid Boss Overdrive off on you.

Also, on the girl in the acoustic room: Why do you give a fuck?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 26 Dec 2012, 17:44
You say "long lost twin" and I think "Twin Reverb barn find".

I have a sickness.

Speaking of, my baby's back:

(http://i.imgur.com/uLm1S.jpg?2)

Why yes, there is booze and weed on my amp indeed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 27 Dec 2012, 08:58
Also, on the girl in the acoustic room: Why do you give a fuck?

I was just kind of in disbelief, I guess. For the record, I've generally had good experiences with my local Guitar Center. At least the guys there don't try to sell me a used Squier as a legit Fender for more than the MSRP.

Also, Pat, that amp is the sex.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 27 Dec 2012, 12:59
Thanks! I love how a Mesa Boogie certified tech out at Power Age Amp Repair in Oakland had her for 6-7 months and couldn't figure out the problem (AND the fucker charged for his "services," the fucking audacity!), and then my dad got hold of the thing for a week and discovered that my issue was a blown solder joint on a screen resistor in the power section, and he fixed that shit supafast FO FREE. AND he biased an entire new matched quad of power tubes AND replaced all the LEDs for shits and giggles.

So now, I'm going to start learning to read electronic schematics. I'ma get some of those "build your own radio" kits from Radio Shack and a multimeter too while I'm at it and I'm gonna just DIY all my repairs from now on. Because qualified people can't even fucking do it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 27 Dec 2012, 13:51
PS last night I decided to take my Twin to the jam night that I run every week, and all I had was a drummer at first, so my sis shot this video of us smashing on some Pixies. Hollowbody fatness plus Twin fatness equals "who needs a bassist?"

BEEDEEO: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=563491522092&comment_id=571846&notif_t=video_comment_tagged
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 27 Dec 2012, 16:50
Patrick:

Start with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002LUAL6/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=wago-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B0002LUAL6&adid=1RNBRQH5RAQX9J140BZK&

and then when you feel more confident, go to this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FMQ37C/ref=as_li_ss_til?tag=wago-20&camp=0&creative=0&linkCode=as4&creativeASIN=B000FMQ37C&adid=07K7ERFS4VWA9FJJD2QG&
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 27 Dec 2012, 18:20
Fuck that noise, buy kits from Weber and amass yourself an arsenal of Champ clones for recording!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 29 Dec 2012, 04:46
It's not like I would just stop soldering shit altogether once I got an AM/FM radio out of the deal. Solid prep work never hurt anybody, and electricity can kill you. I wanna be sure. :D
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 29 Dec 2012, 12:21
It's not the volts, it's the amperage.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: pwhodges on 30 Dec 2012, 01:00
You don't get amps without volts (because your body has a resistance), but you can get volts without amps (if the source  has a very high resistance, like static).

Disclaimer - this is not worded in a way that would pass an exam!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 30 Dec 2012, 12:28
So I got one of those gimmick Mini-Deluxe "amps" for Christmas this year. Y'know, 9-volt power and sounds like ass?

It sounds like the most delicious ass of all time. It is the Slumdog Millionaire of ass tones. And I love it so much.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 01 Jan 2013, 21:04
On the topic of deliciously ass tones, Fuzz Factories sound insane through solid state bass amps.

Also, I switched from 12-54 strings back down to 10-46 and it's astounding how my wrists aren't screaming in protest anymore.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 03 Jan 2013, 09:25
...and I'm back to using my pod. Double muff relegated to backup in gig bag.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 04 Jan 2013, 22:03
(http://imageshack.us/a/img717/8104/explorerll.jpg)

Fucking silver Explorer with binding and coil tap. God damn it, and I just got a bunch of grant money I was gonna put in savings. There goes that plan.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jan 2013, 06:11
IIRC, that's actually not silver, it's "TV Silver". Mildly transparent. They did a run of guitars in TV pelham, too.

Epiphone, you bitches is crazy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 05 Jan 2013, 07:32
Yeah, Sweetwater still has an SC custom in TV Pelham with a lyre trem. It looks wonderful.

Aghhghgdhs I need to not buy more guitars I can't even play the one I have
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 05 Jan 2013, 08:32
So by "TV" finishes they mean it is some other color in meat-life but when you take pic-a-tures of it with old cameras it looks like what they want it to?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 05 Jan 2013, 09:28
Nah dude, just sort of transparent. Like the TV yellow LP Juniors back in the day.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 05 Jan 2013, 18:34
I think that was the gist of TV Yellow, at least. It was supposed to look white on B&W TVs without washing out. I think TV Silver/Pelham/etc. is just a way of mimicing the thin paint on the early TV Yellow guitars. It's not transparent so much as thin; you can see the mahogany grain show through. I think the reason some people say it looks cheap is that like a lot of rattlecanned guitars, they don't use a grain filler to make the finish smooth before painting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 06 Jan 2013, 16:05
I never understood that shit. I like woodgrain.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 07 Jan 2013, 06:57
I think that was the gist of TV Yellow, at least. It was supposed to look white on B&W TVs without washing out.

That was exactly what Gibson's intention was. 10 points to Ravenclaw!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 10 Jan 2013, 10:21
http://www.fender.com/series/pawn-shop/

New Fender Pawn Shop series up. wat u think bros?!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 10 Jan 2013, 10:52
Super-Sonic and Reverse Jaguar Bass are doable. Don't much care for the others.

(Edited for clarity.)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 10 Jan 2013, 12:50
Yeah I sorta want a Bass VI. More likely, I'd go with a Blacktop baritone Tele first.

Also, that new Mustang bass is gorgeous in white.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 10 Jan 2013, 13:31
The Jaguar VI has been on my dream list for ten years or so.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 10 Jan 2013, 14:40
Okay, clue me in, what makes the Bass VI so awesome?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 10 Jan 2013, 21:50
Okay, clue me in, what makes the Bass VI so awesome?

Disintegration by The Cure.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 11 Jan 2013, 01:10
Every Beatles song where Paul did not play bass, you heard a Bass VI.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 11 Jan 2013, 08:10
Okay, so I got:

- Beatles
- Doom metal
- The Cure

Not very versatile, is it?
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: idontunderstand on 11 Jan 2013, 08:20
I just think it looks awesome. Jack Bruce played one in early Cream, though I dunno if it is featured on any of the records. Also, a high B and high E string without a huge goofy neck? Gimme gimme gimme.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 11 Jan 2013, 08:32
My bassist would be excited as all hell if I showed up one day with that thing...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 11 Jan 2013, 17:11
I would flip my shit if Matt walked into band practice one day and told me he had a surprise for me and the surprise turned out to be a Bass VI.

I would seriously fucking flip my shit, just take it with a spatula and *flip*
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 12 Jan 2013, 17:31
Okay, so I got:

- Beatles
- Doom metal
- The Cure

Not very versatile, is it?

Beatles, Doom and The Cure is all that matters

But also these assholes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Bass_VI#Players)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 13 Jan 2013, 19:11
Lost in all this Fender Pawn Shop gobbledygook, check out THIS reissue:

(http://assets.fender.com/frl/3356389a8aecb8aa956e582e76f9cb06/generated/86ceb3c861ac3d7b0737b2ccde488ca3.png)

Should street somewhere between $225-250. Kinda REALLY want.

Quote
Other features include a vintage-style bridge with chrome plate made on the actual machine used to produce the original parts half a century ago
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 14 Jan 2013, 09:21
That mustang bass looks like the stuff of dreams.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 17 Jan 2013, 19:35
Just got a Triangle-spec Big Muff from the guy who made my custom Bass RAT. Fuck that thing sounds good.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 17 Jan 2013, 20:44
Fuck yeah, my muff clone is build like a triangle, too.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 18 Jan 2013, 12:21
I've been meaning to replace my Big Muff Pi for a while now, because it's basically a huge piece of shit that sounds good sometimes. I was thinking of getting a Stomp Under Foot Civil War clone or a Devi Ever fuzz if I'm feeling stupid.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 19 Jan 2013, 01:44
Stomp Under Foot has like ridiculous waiting times, unless you pay more for used.  I kind of want to get into DIY so I was looking at a GGG Tuned Muff kit to start out.  DIY is so affordable and looks cool, I might get hooked.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 19 Jan 2013, 02:33
My Strat can, and will, kick your Strat's ass.

(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/734227_10151330366723559_2101035664_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582414_10151330366773559_1798701155_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jan 2013, 10:13
I didn't know such a thing as the bass RAT existed, and now I need one. I've been needing a good bass fuzz for a while, because for some songs, I need a bit more growl than I'm getting.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 19 Jan 2013, 15:20
I didn't know such a thing as the bass RAT existed, and now I need one. I've been needing a good bass fuzz for a while, because for some songs, I need a bit more growl than I'm getting.

Mine was a custom job. Diode clipping-selector plus a clean blend. sounds like this:
https://soundcloud.com/steven-broka/dirge-rat-demo
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 19 Jan 2013, 19:22
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck how do I obtain one of these? I'm playing a P Bass with a Duncan Quarter Pound pup, fucker's got tons of output. This pedal plus the ending of "Color Wheels of Evil" would kick so much ass live, holy shiiiiit
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 19 Jan 2013, 22:53
http://www.ilovefuzz.com/viewtopic.php?f=197&t=26119

Username skullservant on ilovefuzz.com. Not sure if he's taking orders now or not, but probably doesn't hurt to ask. say you want a Bass Rat like "gardenofthedead's". Will cost $120 (more if you don't want a plain grey enclosure).
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 22 Jan 2013, 09:09
Lummer: Nice strat! I believe you are correct, it can kick my strat's ass.

Radical AC: I taught myself how to solder so I could do DIY pedal builds, but I haven't done one yet. I'm nervous about building something then not liking it. There is basically zero resale value on a DIY pedal, because nobody trusts some random guy with an iron. Take that into account when deciding to build or buy.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 23 Jan 2013, 07:48
Radical AC: I taught myself how to solder so I could do DIY pedal builds, but I haven't done one yet. I'm nervous about building something then not liking it. There is basically zero resale value on a DIY pedal, because nobody trusts some random guy with an iron. Take that into account when deciding to build or buy.

Unless you're buying red-dot NKT275 transistors that have residue of Hendrix's semen on them, how much money could you possibly lose? Components are cheap as hell.

And yeah, you're gonna make stuff you don't like. You learn by fucking up and knowing what not to fuck up next time.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Jan 2013, 08:55
Yeah, but 98% of the time, DIYers are talking about pedal kits and not sourcing out the individual components and building from complete scratch. You are correct that the individual components are very cheap, but the kits still have profit margins built in and are not nearly as cheap. That's where my fear of diminished resale value comes in.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Jan 2013, 11:06
Yeah, if you're not concerned about resale value, then there is basically no reason to not do it.

In other news, a guitar I paid $900 for a year ago is now on clearance for under $600. Speaking of crappy resale value... :(
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Akima on 23 Jan 2013, 13:59
Radical AC: I taught myself how to solder so I could do DIY pedal builds, but I haven't done one yet. I'm nervous about building something then not liking it. There is basically zero resale value on a DIY pedal, because nobody trusts some random guy with an iron. Take that into account when deciding to build or buy.
Learning to build electronics is just like learning to play an instrument. If you never start because you're afraid you'll suck at the beginning (and you will) you will never make any progress. I'm just saying...
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 23 Jan 2013, 15:59
It's not about being afraid that I suck. I know how that goes. It's that I don't want to purchase a kit, build it, realize I don't even like the sound the pedal makes and then not being able to sell it. I'd rather buy a used pedal that I can flip for nearly the same price I paid if I don't like it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 23 Jan 2013, 16:24
https://www.facebook.com/notes/drive-by-truckers/stolen-baxendale-acoustic-the-blue-note-in-columbia-mo/10151334599677347 (https://www.facebook.com/notes/drive-by-truckers/stolen-baxendale-acoustic-the-blue-note-in-columbia-mo/10151334599677347)

Longshot that this will help at all, but I'm a giant DBT fan and used to live here. Keep a lookout, yall
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Lummer on 24 Jan 2013, 00:39
Radical AC: I taught myself how to solder so I could do DIY pedal builds, but I haven't done one yet. I'm nervous about building something then not liking it. There is basically zero resale value on a DIY pedal, because nobody trusts some random guy with an iron. Take that into account when deciding to build or buy.
Learning to build electronics is just like learning to play an instrument. If you never start because you're afraid you'll suck at the beginning (and you will) you will never make any progress. I'm just saying...

The company Build Your Own Clone make some pretty cheap kits, who most people should find fairly easy. They have a simple boost pedal called the "Confidence Boost" (natch), which they recommend people start out on.
That said, I've built two of them and both sounded a bit odd.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 24 Jan 2013, 02:28
My father has a soldering kit and a huge workspace, so I am going to order parts now and wait for spring when it isnt 0F to do some work.  I was actually going to start soldering some of those radioshack starter kits because my girlfriend is assistant manager and can get stuff for really cheap.  Then I was going to move on to making my own patch cables for the board I am assembling.  Do a beginners pedal (BYOC sounds like a good place to start), the GGG tuned muff (which is the same thing as the bluebeard that a guy sells for three times the price assembled and in a cool enclosure), and finally the madbean cavedweller.  I figure if I dont like it at that point I dont like it, but I have always had an interest in learning ham radio stuff as well and this would help me understand that more too.

Speaking of wait lists I am on the SUF list for either a 2247 or VRH, and will probably get the latter.  I am also on the list for an echoczar with the angelbaby and looking at a four year wait time, so I MAY get it when I am thirty.  Still havent pulled the trigger on the KoT.  Money isnt good enough to pick that up right now.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 24 Jan 2013, 07:17
Funny, I did the same thing - started with radio shack-type kits and then started making my own patch cables. As previously noted, I haven't yet made the leap to DIY pedals. I'm actually signed up to get one of Devi Ever's Console I devices and I'm probably going to order a DIY cartridge. I figure the worst part of building pedals is the jacks and switches, so that leaves only the fun stuff.

In regards to the KoT, I found it really cut bass when engaged. I didn't like that at all, but it's probably a good thing in a band context. I replaced it with a Barber LTD SR and am "completely satisfied". Check out the new Barber Gain Changer as well - dirt cheap and very versatile.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 24 Jan 2013, 14:22
https://www.facebook.com/notes/drive-by-truckers/stolen-baxendale-acoustic-the-blue-note-in-columbia-mo/10151334599677347 (https://www.facebook.com/notes/drive-by-truckers/stolen-baxendale-acoustic-the-blue-note-in-columbia-mo/10151334599677347)

Longshot that this will help at all, but I'm a giant DBT fan and used to live here. Keep a lookout, yall

Apparently they don't have the guitar in hand yet but they've got a great lead so far!
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 25 Jan 2013, 11:33
So I played on one of these bad boys at a shop yesterday:

(http://guitarfetish.com/assets/images/products/xvinsiwichdr.jpg)

Actually it was the P90 version. But man, I frigging loved it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 25 Jan 2013, 11:48
I'm definitely over hollow/semi-hollow, but P90s have my attention! Also... I have no tele.

What do you guys think of a tele with a p90 in the bridge and a mini-hum in the neck? I'm in love with mini-hums.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 26 Jan 2013, 05:40
What do you guys think of... a p90... and a mini-hum

Sounds vaguely familiar..

(http://rockcellarmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/old-black.jpg)

Oh yeah, that guy. APPROVED.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Bearer on 26 Jan 2013, 07:19
Best part about my Firebird is that having the mini-humbucker in the bridge along with the tremelo means I can jam the fuck out to Cortez the Killer.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Melodic on 26 Jan 2013, 13:17
guys i have a confession

i basically think all fender guitars are ugly as shit. i'm really sorry.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: riccostar on 28 Jan 2013, 18:10
guys i have a confession

i basically think all fender guitars are ugly as shit. i'm really sorry.

Wh-what?

Why?  :cry:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 28 Jan 2013, 21:30
guys i have a confession

i basically think all fender guitars are ugly as shit. i'm really sorry.

YEAH WELL YOU SMELL LIKE FARTS
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 30 Jan 2013, 07:59
While we're professing blasphemies:

I've never played a Gibson I'd pay money for (And I've played some rather... ambitiously priced ones), I think Marshall Amps are shitty, and while I don't hate them I don't understand the hype behind the classic Ampeg SVTs.

On that note, I don't know that I've played a 'British-voiced' amp that I've actually enjoyed.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Jan 2013, 09:41
You clearly need more Vox in your life.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 30 Jan 2013, 10:05
My opinion of Vox is lower than that of Marshall.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 30 Jan 2013, 13:13
While we're professing blasphemies:

I've never played a Gibson I'd pay money for (And I've played some rather... ambitiously priced ones)

Fair.

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I think Marshall Amps are shitty

Fair

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...and while I don't hate them I don't understand the hype behind the classic Ampeg SVTs.

Yeah, fair-ish.

Quote
On that note, I don't know that I've played a 'British-voiced' amp that I've actually enjoyed.

Ehhhhnnnn starting to disagree...

My opinion of Vox is lower than that of Marshall.

THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: TheCollyWolly on 30 Jan 2013, 16:11
I don't get the SVT love either. I paid about half of what an SVT and a 410 would cost for my Markbass rig, and it is beautiful. (Yeah, I'm first and foremost a bass player)
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Kwaping on 30 Jan 2013, 17:08
I like my Catalinbread SFT.


That's all I got.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 30 Jan 2013, 17:59
My opinion of Vox is lower than that of Marshall.

Tell me at least you appreciate the fiery roar of an Orange.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 30 Jan 2013, 22:14
Not really? Though the only Orange amps I've played are the Tiny Terror and the Thunderverb and... I liked the TT better :?

I'm pretty firmly in the Mesa camp for high-gain amps and Fender for cleans. (but sadly lacking the funds for either)

Except for Bogner. Cause the Germans are motherfuckers at music tech.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: doombilly on 31 Jan 2013, 04:06
The markbass is nice for portability. You cannot top the Classic SVT through an 8x10. It is as a tech who once worked on ours in Charlotte said, "God's bass rig."
But maybe that is because my bassist plays very melodic lines with fingers instead of a pick and uses flat wounds. Depends on the sound you are going for. If you want Motown, old school r&b then go ampeg. If you want primus, get the loudest & lightest.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 31 Jan 2013, 05:14
I never thought the following was possible:

- Not liking Vox amps
- Liking Bogner amps

You cannot top the Classic SVT through an 8x10. It is as a tech who once worked on ours in Charlotte said, "God's bass rig."

Having had the pleasure of using this exact rig at a show in SF a while back, I testify to you all, truer words have never been spoken.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: IDMG on 01 Feb 2013, 01:32
You cannot top the Classic SVT through an 8x10.
A Mesa 400+ bass rig would for me.

Any time I play an Ampeg SVT I think,"Geeze, I wish I could turn the bass knob up without it scooping my mids out."

My opinion of Vox is lower than that of Marshall.
Wait, what? Is there an amp you DO like?

Fenders and Mesas.

Geeze you'd think Vox amps are like the holy grail.

They do that "bright and chimey" clean tone thing I have utterly no use for and not a whole lot else.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: valley_parade on 01 Feb 2013, 10:03
Not really?

So you don't like 335s, Oranges, or spring reverb.

Get off my damn internet. :psyduck:
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Thrillho on 01 Feb 2013, 14:27
I don't like 335s either.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Radical AC on 02 Feb 2013, 09:54
I'm not a fan of Mesas myself.  I don't think I have ever played a tube amp that took pedals worse than the triple rec.  I love my Fender amp and am saving for a Dunwich.  If I get this job I am applying for I'm gonna get me a 6x12 emperor cab.

The appeal of the SVT is that it is an 80lbs. head and you can find out who your true friends are when you ask them to help you move it.
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: Patrick on 02 Feb 2013, 11:52
If you consider yourself to be a healthy person, you are a pussy if you can't lift 80lbs.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 02 Feb 2013, 12:20
The problem with an SVT rig isn't the weight, it's the size. I'm happy with a rig I can carry under one arm, thank you very much. And my Little Mark Tube puts out 800 watts. It gets LOUD.
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Post by: Patrick on 09 Feb 2013, 02:24
So my Twin's preamp tubes are all microphonic and have to borrow a friend's amp for a gig tomorrow, so now I basically have the best small rig possible for a day. My good buddy has a Blackface Deluxe Reverb and a Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive that he's letting me borrow. Jesus fucking shit christ. This is my arsenal for tomorrow night (disregard the Whammy)

(http://i.imgur.com/WvFBcqC.jpg?1)

I am so fucking stoked dude, that pedal is the best thing to plug in front of that amp. Takes care of not having my footswitch capability between clean and dirty channels like on on my Twin. And I still get footswitchable reverb and tremolo.

PS it turns out I fucking love the way the Squier Affinity Tele looks with the guard off. I found that out when I was putting the neck pickup mount screws back where they belong: screwed in. It ain't a pool rout like I thought it was going to be.
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Post by: IDMG on 09 Feb 2013, 13:47
I love tiny Fenders.

The best was an old Silverface Princeton Reverb I got to crank to ten. So glorious.
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Post by: Patrick on 10 Feb 2013, 15:35
So my buddy's band and I won the 50th Anniversary Hawyard Battle of the Bands last night, and there were a bunch of sweet prizes. I got the guitar, and after doing some research I found out that it's a Charvel Desolation DX-1 ST (http://www.charvel.com/guitars//search.php?partno=2931310590) in wine red.

I don't like it, but it's brand new out of the box, I've barely played it at all (grand total of maybe 30 minutes), and I'm selling/trading it for $600 OBO.
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Post by: Lummer on 11 Feb 2013, 00:36
Ah, dang. I'd really like one of those, but shipping to Euroland costs a freakin' fortune.
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Feb 2013, 14:47
Aw man. How bad is it? I'd be willing to split the shipping cost if it's not too terrible. I'm trying to get an SG with P90s with the money.
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Post by: Kwaping on 12 Feb 2013, 10:26
Congrats on the win, Patrick!! The text you linked goes to a facebook page though - 404 Guitar Not Found.  :-(
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Post by: Patrick on 12 Feb 2013, 12:13
Oh woops, incorrect copypasta. My bad doods, it's fixed now.
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Post by: ScruffCardinale on 12 Feb 2013, 13:19
my favorite guitar at any given point depends on which one i'm using most for whatever band i'm currently in, but i haven't actively been in one in almost a year now sadly. my favorite amp will always be my Music Man HD130 head. the guitar i've been playing most as of late is the 1976 Gibson Marauder i inherited from my deceased best friend/cousin/band mate. on top of just enjoying having something that's a piece of him to remember it gets a really awesome tone and always has people asking questions. it's the only bolt on neck guitar in my arsenal.
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Post by: Thrillho on 12 Feb 2013, 15:11
Fucking hell, Pat. I'd sell that instantly.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Feb 2013, 01:27
Tellin me, man. I'm gonna put this on consignment down at the music store before too long. It's dead weight in my hands and I'd rather somebody own it who's gonna appreciate it. That and I'd rather have a fucking SG.
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Post by: Akima on 13 Feb 2013, 04:18
Charvel Desolation
If I owned one of these, I would name it "Peace"... (http://www.famousquotes.com/show/1044253/)
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Post by: Thrillho on 13 Feb 2013, 10:47
Tellin me, man. I'm gonna put this on consignment down at the music store before too long. It's dead weight in my hands and I'd rather somebody own it who's gonna appreciate it. That and I'd rather have a fucking SG.

Someone I know was recently selling an Epi SG for less than $300. The fucking bastard. I WISH I could afford that GNNNNNNN
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Post by: Patrick on 13 Feb 2013, 12:30
Unfortunately Epi SGs don't come with P90s, so I guess I'm stuck chasing Gibson
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Post by: valley_parade on 13 Feb 2013, 18:31
Ahem (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/epiphone-limited-edition-50th-anniversary-1961-sg-special-outfit-electric-guitar).

(http://static.musiciansfriend.com/derivates/18/001/605/928/DV016_Jpg_Large_H74556.002_alpine_white.jpg)
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Post by: celticgeek on 13 Feb 2013, 20:17
I see that Jeph has a Flatt and Scruggs Poster (https://twitter.com/pengraffe/status/301905774635016192/photo/1) in his house> 
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Feb 2013, 02:29
seriously epiphone SGs are the biggest pieces of shit. the bodies are similar in finish and thickness to a hand-cut 2x4.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 14 Feb 2013, 08:19
Seriously. The more expensive epiphones are much better. The SGs at least. But of course, for that price you could get a 1980's Gibson so the point is pretty much moot.
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Post by: Thrillho on 14 Feb 2013, 09:54
Unfortunately Epi SGs don't come with P90s, so I guess I'm stuck chasing Gibson

Yeah but if the gitbox only cost you $300 you could get new pups put in it.
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Post by: IDMG on 14 Feb 2013, 19:12
Yes, that way he'd have a shitty guitar with good pickups.

It's kinda like putting whipped cream on shit.
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Post by: doombilly on 15 Feb 2013, 07:03
gretsch.panther.centerblock.dang.
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Post by: Patrick on 15 Feb 2013, 08:43
The point of buying a used Gibson SG with P90s is so that I can strip it down to bare wood, nitro-clearcoat the sucker, and not have it look shit awful
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Post by: Kwaping on 15 Feb 2013, 11:04
The point of buying a used Gibson SG with P90s is so that I can strip it down to bare wood, nitro-clearcoat the sucker, and have it look shit awful

Subtle fix is subtle.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 Feb 2013, 12:35
You bite your tongue and choke on the blood.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 18 Feb 2013, 11:35
Found a guy about 2 hours away from me selling an AC15C1, and if I can talk him down to $400 I'm picking that shit up next weekend :D
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Post by: Thrillho on 18 Feb 2013, 13:31
Yes, that way he'd have a shitty guitar with good pickups.

It's kinda like putting whipped cream on shit.

Epiphone =/= shitty. Budget =/= shitty either.
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Post by: Lupercal on 18 Feb 2013, 14:10
My opinion of Vox is lower than that of Marshall.

My 70s AC30 would like a word with you, sir.

Wow Pat, dump the Charvel. I like some Charvels, but it kind of seems pointless getting a Charvel if it doesn't have a big ugly black Floyd on it. The So Cals, San Dimas etc were good for that, looked the part too. After all these years I'm still hung up on superstrats. Fuck.
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Post by: Majicou83 on 18 Feb 2013, 17:35
I like my Peavey T-60 (which was a pretty reasonable price for a USA made guitar).  My only complaint would be the weight. Though on the upside; it also doubles as a blunt-force weapon..?
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Post by: ScruffCardinale on 19 Feb 2013, 11:19
i scored a really awesome 80's Peavey 2x12 cab with Sheffield speakers for $50 off Craig's List this weekend. ironically enough it's heavier than the 4x12 i didn't feel like bringing to every show, but the point was more about taking up a smaller footprint than the weight.
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Post by: IDMG on 19 Feb 2013, 21:51
Epiphone =/= shitty. Budget =/= shitty either.
Never said either of those things.

What I meant to imply is that Epiphone SGs are shitty. Especially when you can just save for a while and get a real one.

My 70s AC30 would like a word with you, sir.

Played one. Not impressed.
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Post by: valley_parade on 20 Feb 2013, 07:56
a real one.

It's a shame that I just woke up, because if I were more awake, I'd make a way better argument as to why I fucking hate this so much than just "fuck you".

So for now, fuck you.
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Post by: IDMG on 20 Feb 2013, 20:26
a real one.

It's a shame that I just woke up, because if I were more awake, I'd make a way better argument as to why I fucking hate this so much than just "fuck you".

So for now, fuck you.

I see your "fuck you" and I'll raise you a "blow me."
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Post by: Patrick on 21 Feb 2013, 02:49
IDMG is correct because the pickups and wiring are of poorer quality, therefore shush
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 21 Feb 2013, 04:35
Poor wiring is piss easy to correct and will cost you approximately zero cents. All you need is some tin foil, hot glue and a soldering iron. Pots are also the cheapest thing in the world and pickups can be had at guitar fetish for peanuts.

In conclusion: A good epiphone will cost you approximately 20 euros and a half empty bag of jelly babies.
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Post by: valley_parade on 21 Feb 2013, 10:02
a real one.

It's a shame that I just woke up, because if I were more awake, I'd make a way better argument as to why I fucking hate this so much than just "fuck you".

So for now, fuck you.

I see your "fuck you" and I'll raise you a "blow me."

Alright, actually dropping the gloves here. As a broke-ass kid who'se now in his mid-20s and still broke as fuck, I just hate the idea that I'm being told that I'm not playing a "real" Jazzmaster or that I didn't own a "real" Firebird because of the decal on the headstock. Eff that shit.

And honestly, the only Squier about my Jazzmaster is the body and the neck. Everything inside's AVRI-spec or better.

(I keep sleeping in late, I swear one day, soon, I'll stretch out my argument)
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 21 Feb 2013, 21:33
I like my Epiphone... :oops:
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Post by: Melodic on 22 Feb 2013, 00:20
hey man, epiphone makes some fine instruments

but the epiphone SG ain't one of them. it's built like a brick shithouse and has about as much sustain
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Post by: Pilchard123 on 22 Feb 2013, 01:12
Hey, they can get some pretty good sustain! Particularly if the person using the aforementioned facility had a particularly explosive meal previously.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 22 Feb 2013, 05:46
So basically, I think we can all agree that chinese Gretsch and Hagstroms are the best deals around?
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 22 Feb 2013, 08:16
Grestches are very nice. I really like filtertrons!
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 22 Feb 2013, 09:25
OH BY THE WAY. I got to test out one of these (http://www.guitarfactory.net/Images/Ukes/Lge/Kala_U-Bass_Ukulele.jpg)
the other week while on a city trip. You know how it goes, you see a music shop and you have to go in.

Only difference was it was fretless. A Fretless bass uke. It was tuned the same as a real bass and actually really comfortable to play on. I'd love one as a travel bass, but they cost 600 euros or so.

Also, it would really go well with my Mahogany slothead Tanglewood.
(http://www.nuloop.com/dj_equipement/Tanglewood/tw133_carac1.jpg)
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Post by: idontunderstand on 22 Feb 2013, 09:41
Augh, that is really cool.
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Post by: Patrick on 23 Feb 2013, 00:55
I want the Hagstrom 12-string Viking so fucking bad, dude. I want to record all of the things.
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Post by: leftandleaving on 23 Feb 2013, 09:49
My Viking Deluxe has been missing a string since, like, December. The last time I played guitar, I broke that string and have been too busy/lazy/morose to fix it. What a bummer.
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Post by: doombilly on 24 Feb 2013, 06:37
gretsch.panther.centerblock.dang.
(http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/quality,85/rotate,45/2400600805v1_hi-0015837e62b13768152a4849a13c071c.jpg)
Finally a white guitar without fucking gold hardware.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 24 Feb 2013, 07:04
I like my Peavey T-60 (which was a pretty reasonable price for a USA made guitar).  My only complaint would be the weight. Though on the upside; it also doubles as a blunt-force weapon..?

I had to sell my 79 T-60. Made me so sad. That baby was awesome.
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Post by: valley_parade on 24 Feb 2013, 10:13
Finally a white guitar without fucking gold hardware.

No. No no no no. That's just..no. White Gretsches are SUPPOSED to have gold hardware.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 24 Feb 2013, 11:30
gretsch.panther.centerblock.dang.
(http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/quality,85/rotate,45/2400600805v1_hi-0015837e62b13768152a4849a13c071c.jpg)
Finally a white guitar without fucking gold hardware.

I AM DROOLING

But also this
Finally a white guitar without fucking gold hardware.

No. No no no no. That's just..no. White Gretsches are SUPPOSED to have gold hardware.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 24 Feb 2013, 19:25
I finally got my AC15! FUCK this thing is awesome
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Feb 2013, 19:30
Fuuuuuuck, jealous :(

While I agree with Shane, I also rather like it without the goldware. Also, Jazzmasters come in white and ~they!~ don't have gold hardware  :mrgreen:
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 24 Feb 2013, 19:42
I thing getting a big hollwbody Gretsch in anything but orange is a mistake anyway. White falcons are nice, but dang.

Also, I played one of the Epi SGs with the P90s from last page, and it was pretty nice. It had a flatter neck and I really like the dot-and-bound fretboard. Wraparound bridges are always a plus.

Also played the new Bass VI, and it is really fucking cool and very usable as a bass!
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Post by: Patrick on 24 Feb 2013, 19:59
Also played the new Bass VI, and it is really fucking cool and very usable as a bass!

dude yes, high five o/

Those things are just so fucking musical, no matter how you play em. AND THEY HAVE A WHAMMY BAR, WHAT THE FUCK I STILL CAN'T GET OVER THAT
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Post by: leftandleaving on 24 Feb 2013, 21:59
Sigh, I melted my bass cab today at a show. Worth it. But now I need to be poor again because I have another show in 5 days. WHY.
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Post by: IDMG on 24 Feb 2013, 23:14
Also played the new Bass VI, and it is really fucking cool and very usable as a bass!

Local guitar center had it right next to a Roland JC-120 reissue.

It's like they were asking me to play Cure tunes at obnoxious volumes.


Also, I blew up my pedal power supply. Yay.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 25 Feb 2013, 03:19
Does the whammy bar on the bass VI not detune it totally every time you use it?
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Feb 2013, 04:45
Same system as the JM and Jag, similarly stable results. Just make sure yr strings are properly stretched first. It's even more important than usual, since I've noticed that wound strings tend to respond the most to stretching, and, well, the whole damn set is wound on the Bass VI.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 25 Feb 2013, 07:26
I didn't get a chance to use the vibrato on the VI, they either lost the bar or keeping it behind the counter at the shop. I'd imagine roller saddles and a properly cut nut would fix most of the tuning problems.
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2013, 12:34
I wonder if a standard Mastery would fit the larger strings on the VI.
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Post by: doombilly on 25 Feb 2013, 12:42
Finally a white guitar without fucking gold hardware.

No. No no no no. That's just..no. White Gretsches are SUPPOSED to have gold hardware.
I disagree. And punch you in the face with fist punches from my fist thing. (Where is my How-to-make-fist handbook?)
YEAH!
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Post by: valley_parade on 25 Feb 2013, 12:46
I'm not saying all white guitars should, but man, White Falcons just look Correct.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 25 Feb 2013, 20:17
I just bought a Flashback delay off TGP. I fuckin' love grant money that I shouldn't be spending :D
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Post by: ankhtahr on 26 Feb 2013, 05:16
I'll admit, I barely have any idea what you're all talking about. My only guitar is this one:
(http://web.halfur.de/pic/guitar.jpg)

It's a Höfner 4840 Concert Guitar from 1977. Rosewood back sides and fingerboard, spruce top. Nylon strings of course.

It's not that high quality, but it's ok. I can't afford anything else anyway.

edit: by the way, the brighter areas on the body are reflections of the tripod, not scratches.
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Post by: celticgeek on 26 Feb 2013, 07:32
I understand what you are saying;  My main guitar. (http://www.celticgeek.com/images/Kremona_Front_small.JPG) 

I have a couple of others, both classical guitars.
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Post by: Kwaping on 26 Feb 2013, 17:06
Where do you plug it in??
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Post by: Thrillho on 27 Feb 2013, 10:11
Spanish guitars all look the same to me, just like bl-*BANNED*
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Post by: ankhtahr on 27 Feb 2013, 10:49
Spanish guitars all look the same to me, just like bl-*BANNED*

These ain't even spanish guitars, these are ordinary, classical concert guitars. Looks are not so important, only the sound.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Feb 2013, 11:06
Where do you plug it in??

I think you put a microphone in front of it or something.
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Post by: Thrillho on 27 Feb 2013, 11:08
Yeah I was aware of that, I was just trying to funny.
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Post by: ankhtahr on 27 Feb 2013, 11:10
You don't need any amplification unless you're playing at a big concert. So no plugs, no microphones, no amps, no special effects. And the music you play on these looks like this: Sheet (http://www.thomaskoenigs.de/paganini_romance.pdf)
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Post by: Thrillho on 27 Feb 2013, 11:11
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON IN THIS THREAD?
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Post by: celticgeek on 27 Feb 2013, 11:18
pre-Thomas Edison guitars.
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Post by: Lummer on 27 Feb 2013, 12:01
You don't need any amplification [/url]

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9e42687d2aee5c0436a1adeb294b4d4d/tumblr_mifvplNiCq1r4wsflo1_250.gif)
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Post by: ScruffCardinale on 27 Feb 2013, 13:09
while i do respect acoustic instruments as well my first reaction upon seeing them was definitely like Murderface in Metalocalypse "what are those? chairs?"
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 28 Feb 2013, 07:39
Oh, you means grandpas guitars?
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Post by: Kwaping on 28 Feb 2013, 12:45
Okay, time to return this thread to normalcy...

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxo2uktfYl1qa90nfo1_1280.png)
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Post by: IDMG on 28 Feb 2013, 20:33
and here I thought sonic youth broke up.
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Post by: Patrick on 01 Mar 2013, 06:23
The Troubador song Ramona is about a nylon string guitar by that name. Poor thing, she's folding at the neck joint nowadays, so she's been retired to our headquarters. RIP
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 01 Mar 2013, 13:04
(http://imageshack.us/a/img441/7608/img1108cb.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img14/8014/img1105rs.jpg)

This pedal, guys

sweet stereo-output-jesus this pedal

Edit: I'm fairly ashamed of this post, only because I didn't have any booze or pot to put on my amp to compete with Patrick.
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Post by: leftandleaving on 01 Mar 2013, 13:14
Sigh, I melted my bass cab today at a show. Worth it. But now I need to be poor again because I have another show in 5 days. WHY.

But I got a friggin' Ampeg 810 and a B-4R for $550 total. Thanks, Craigslist savior! I'll post a pic when my massive erection stops blocking the camera.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 01 Mar 2013, 13:32
Where the hell did you get an Ampeg 810 for $500? Is it intact?
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Post by: leftandleaving on 01 Mar 2013, 14:20
Local musicians trying to downsize their amp situation. It's a little rough around the edges, but it sounds great and I'm in a filthy, screamy-singy post-hardcore band, so the image of a mildly thrashed-up cab fits just fine.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 02 Mar 2013, 20:47
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2056/jc2054bodylarge.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/jc2054bodylarge.jpg/)

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/JazzMasterNat

Everything about this guitar I should like. Semi-hollow, offset, gold hardware, koa, everything. But this is seriously the most horrible thing I've ever seen. They PRS'd a Jazzmaster.
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Post by: valley_parade on 04 Mar 2013, 06:29
Twelve thousand dollars, Fender? Seriously?

 :lol: :laugh:
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Post by: Thrillho on 04 Mar 2013, 09:49
That guitar is the same colour as the vomit I created when I saw it.
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Post by: Lupercal on 04 Mar 2013, 12:15
What concerns me most is how they made the bigsby look so horrendous.

Maybe its time to let the offsets go, Fender. Go back to SuperStrats, they can be ugly as sin and will always have a strong consumer base in 14 year olds.
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Post by: Akima on 04 Mar 2013, 14:01
Twelve thousand dollars, Fender? Seriously?
Or three easy payments!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: IDMG on 04 Mar 2013, 19:30
What concerns me most is how they made the bigsby look so horrendous.

There's no way to make Bigsbys look good.
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Post by: doombilly on 05 Mar 2013, 04:11
What concerns me most is how they made the bigsby look so horrendous.

There's no way to make Bigsbys look good.
Those kickstands were taken off of perfectly good mopeds. So I disagree.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 05 Mar 2013, 13:18

Those kickstands were taken off of perfectly good mopeds. So I disagree.
Till I was about 14 I actually thought they were kickstands.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 06 Mar 2013, 20:39
If you put a really long trem arm on a Flying V, it might actually work as a kickstand!
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 07 Mar 2013, 02:35
That'd be really damn cool if you left the amp switched on and it feeding back too. It'd sort of go crazy when you picked it up!
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Post by: valley_parade on 07 Mar 2013, 20:57
There's no way to make Bigsbys look good.

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/-iQHx2MlbPfs/US56jmijJjI/AAAAAAAACVQ/PQsS8zYjCVY/funny-gifs-table-flip%25255B3%25255D.gif?imgmax=800)
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Post by: Kwaping on 08 Mar 2013, 09:36
Count me as a Bigsby fan, both looks and functionality. I love the subtlety of Bigsby bends, and they sound different than other trems (to my ears). <3
Title: Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
Post by: KingOfIreland on 08 Mar 2013, 10:54
Bigsbys are really difficult to use for me, but then I don't have a guitar with a trem anyway. So yeah.
They just feel chunkier and stiffer than, say, a strat's.
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Post by: Lummer on 09 Mar 2013, 14:36
This is my current sticker collection. There's also a guitar under it.


(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/32985381-c2c2-4912-8f63-f00d86f02bfe_zpsb1ea17a2.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/78A6B741-857D-475C-A24F-F4E805F35580-376-00000038582B8E14_zpsea5ba3b9.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/94AF37C9-61FD-427A-A29C-E13CAD7D50B8-376-0000003852DAD8C5_zps9c40a144.jpg)

HASSELHOFF!!
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/Mosag/d73642f5-af0f-43f2-88b3-859bfeb64c17_zps76a676aa.jpg)
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Post by: Thrillho on 10 Mar 2013, 09:14
lumr

pls

lumr

stahp
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 12 Mar 2013, 20:38
My girlfriend gave me her old Epi SG. It's plywood and amazing. How shall I mangle it?
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Post by: doombilly on 13 Mar 2013, 03:40
So, busking in the nyc subway system. Anyone have pointers?  Looking at battery powered amps now. Would love to just get one of those Duracell Powerpack 6zillions  (http://stormprepare.com/Portable-Power.htm)and just bring tha full illicitizen to the MTA, but navigating the stairs with pairs of 80 lb PA speakers, gtr amp and bass rig, poweramp, mixer, drum machine, pyrotechnics, giant inflatable pig etc... is probably a bit much. Most of the gtr setups seem to have a mic and mp3 player input so that has the vocal, guit-fiddle and pre-recorded rhythm sequences sorted. I need to find something that works good for our bass-dominant vibe though.
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Post by: Patrick on 14 Mar 2013, 14:59
My guitar's pickguard finally peeled off and bit the dust, so now she has a tan line.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/72316_4912684888632_1875529754_n.jpg)
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Post by: celticgeek on 14 Mar 2013, 15:10
A rather cute tan line, in my opinion. 
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Post by: Melodic on 14 Mar 2013, 20:21
Dudes with TC Electronic pedals: they just released the closed beta for the Toneprint Editor, it's fucking sweet.
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Post by: valley_parade on 27 Mar 2013, 06:57
Thing I will likely be doing starting in a few weeks:

Building my own lap steel.
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Post by: A Wet Helmet on 27 Mar 2013, 09:01
I have built a lot of electrics but never a lap steel. Let us know how it turns out
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Post by: warcabbit on 06 Apr 2013, 22:03
Hi. So... yeah. Finished the rebuild on my Canvas. It sounds like a cross between Queen and AC/DC now. I'm really not complaining. I think the witch hats really add a certain something. Once again, Burns Tri-Sonic copies, neck and mid, mid is reverse wound, reverse phase. Bridge is a special and odd sort of humbucker that's very distinct and clear. While staying alnico warm. It's actually pretty balanced with the singles, and the rw/rp means you get a nice effect at both 2 and 4 on the five-way.
Before, first, then after.
(http://i.imgur.com/t2zpH.jpg)  (http://i.imgur.com/aeTwWfa.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER7av60tGoA (Tri-Sonic copies)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDk7Fl8pq4 (Bigmouth)

Also, I got a '83 Ovation Ultra Deluxe. It's got a nasty crack in the corner, but the bridge isn't lifting, so I think it's stable. Plus, hundred and fifty bones. It's dreadnaught-deep, and really comfortable. Electronics still work, which isn't bad for a 30 year old guitar. But if I plug it in and face the amp, I can make every sound Jimi ever made in about two minutes. Not with any sort of control, but it howls and suddenly I recognize it as part of Foxy Lady or some other feedback riff. It's probably bad, but it's really amusing.
(http://i.imgur.com/y8tnX5C.jpg)
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 07 Apr 2013, 06:47
I live in university dorms. The last three months the heating has been off for over a week thrice.
It has been freezing for the last three months, and this place has single glazing and no insulation to speak of, also I live under the roof. It gets down to 3 degrees in about an hour flat.

My beautiful mahogany tanglewood is fucked. there's a 2mm gap between the heel and the body at the edge, and it continues for two inches or so. I've done some research and found out that it isn't even a dovetail joint, so basically the neck could snap off at any moment.
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45584_10152706446830203_1094304808_n.jpg)
Also my dano has a crack down the side of the body, but that's not going to impact the sound any, so I'm calling it a sound hole.
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Post by: warcabbit on 07 Apr 2013, 11:41
Damn, man. You'd think school insurance would cover that. It might, actually. Homeowner's insurance would. You have any music classes? Talk with a professor, they might know something.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 08 Apr 2013, 09:59
No reply as of yet. I'll just complain.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 10 Apr 2013, 19:36
On the bright side, that looks repairable. Take it in to a shop and just talk to one of the techs if they have one. In the meantime, I would proooobably take the strings off if at all possible.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 11 Apr 2013, 02:22
Oh, that's the first thing I did, don't worry! Thing is that it's the second time it's happened. I knew I was getting a temperamental guitar at the start, but for god's sake! The only downside to this guitar, literally the only single downside is the neck joint.
Fucking Tanglewood breaking my heart. That'll teach me for picking it over the Chinese mahogany Parlour Guild.
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Post by: Patrick on 11 Apr 2013, 19:59
Heh, that almost looks as bad as the folding neck joint on Ramona, my singer's classical guitar. except instead of the heel separating, it's more like "the body's fucking caving in". So yeah yours doesn't look as bad.

you're right though you should have gone for the Guild
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Post by: Bellyfish on 16 Apr 2013, 07:22
I don't have a camera right know but I play an LTD KH 202, a replica version of one of Kirk hammet's guitars :D
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Post by: Lupercal on 16 Apr 2013, 13:59
oh my
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Post by: Patrick on 25 Apr 2013, 23:49
I don't have a camera right know but I play a Superstrat so why bother with pictures, you know what it looks like

how I read it in my head
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 26 Apr 2013, 05:25
I tore the speaker on my little bass practice amp at a free podium event! (I use the practice amp as a cab for my valve junior in my dorm room) It is the best sounding thing in the world now!

I will have to find a solution for cleans though.
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Post by: Kwaping on 26 Apr 2013, 08:16
Congrats! LOL
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Post by: IDMG on 26 Apr 2013, 10:42
My Egnater fizzled out. Working with a Blues Junior for the time being:
(http://i.imgur.com/2yRUV66l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/2yRUV66)
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Post by: Kwaping on 26 Apr 2013, 15:41
What Egnater did you have? I had a Rebel 30 that needed three repairs within a year.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 27 Apr 2013, 06:53
Looks like I need to get an egnater and a half broken fishman pickup to go with my tanglewood!

EDIT: What I'm reduced to as far as getting a clean sound goes:
(http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/575446_10152764285555203_1660010817_n.jpg)
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Post by: IDMG on 27 Apr 2013, 18:42
What Egnater did you have? I had a Rebel 30 that needed three repairs within a year.

Tweaker-40. Fuses keep blowing out but it isn't the fuses themselves.
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Apr 2013, 03:09
you been having trouble with your power tubes any? if so, perhamps it's related to the transformer in the power section. you might remember when my Twin had problems with this thing called a screen resistor in that section of the amp, blew fuses and power t00bs. I hear it's a fairly common problem with anything remotely similar to modern Fenders.

recently retubed my preamp after that problem got repaired for xmas, by the way, and she's back to 100% beast mode. can't remember if I posted about it already but yeah, shit is so cash <3
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Post by: Kwaping on 28 Apr 2013, 09:13
I don't think Egnaters are anywhere even remotely near Fenders. That's actually why I sold mine and got a Deluxe Reverb reissue.

Speaking of Twins... I am lusting for one, but my friend says it's way overkill for just quiet playing around the house. However, I've played one quietly in a store and it still sounded way better than my Deluxe, even at low volumes.

To buy or not to buy?
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Post by: Patrick on 28 Apr 2013, 10:20
absolutely to buy, just uh, do yrself a favor and put wheels on it. Them fuckers is heavy.
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Post by: IDMG on 28 Apr 2013, 16:15
you been having trouble with your power tubes any? if so, perhamps it's related to the transformer in the power section.

Yanked the power tubes out and tried them in a friend's amp. They still work fine. Which doesn't necessarily rule out the transformer sadly.

I don't think Egnaters are anywhere even remotely near Fenders. That's actually why I sold mine and got a Deluxe Reverb reissue.

The tweaker is actually pretty close to a fender. 6L6 power section and a FVM tone stack.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 02 May 2013, 21:26
Anyone ever used a POG2? I've been watching some demos on the youtubes, and it looks really awesome. There's one on TGP for $200, and I'm gassing hard.

I have way too much gear for a person that can't really play at all
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 May 2013, 07:02
1. Holy crap, $200 for a POG2 is an insane deal. There may be something wrong with it??

2. I've always liked (and wanted) the POG2, but a picky friend of mine says that they don't track well. I say, check for yourself before purchasing.

If that price is for real and there's nothing wrong with it, that unit is probably sold already...
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Post by: Patrick on 04 May 2013, 03:04
The pickiest guy I know has no idea what in fuck's name he's talking about (he told me my amp was broken and that I should buy a new one because it was too bright sounding after I'd been playing my hollowbody through it and he'd switched to a Tele, but he refused to touch the tone knob because tone knobs "make everything sound awful", and then promptly proceeded to fuck with all my carefully preset volume settings because he can't be arsed to read to see which knobs are for EQ), so I agree that your safest bet is to do as Kwaping suggests, check it out for yourself.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 May 2013, 03:06
Same guy also has a Master's from UC Davis in mechanical engineering, and I have no idea how the fuck he got it
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Post by: leftandleaving on 05 May 2013, 13:06
In my experience, picky people tend to read a lot (more than a lot, more like constantly reading stuff) on the internet and not have as much real life experience, or their real life experience is full of confirmation biases from what they've read on the internet.
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Post by: Kwaping on 06 May 2013, 10:38
That's not the case with my friend, actually. He's just picky.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 07 May 2013, 20:20
I guess we'll see if the picky folks were right. POG2 on the way!
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Post by: IDMG on 07 May 2013, 20:29
2. I've always liked (and wanted) the POG2, but a picky friend of mine says that they don't track well. I say, check for yourself before purchasing.

Here's my analysis of the matter:

It's the best tracking you're going to get without dropping $500 on an Eventide Pitchfactor.
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Post by: Kwaping on 08 May 2013, 08:33
Congrats on the incredible deal, TheCollyWolly! I hope it works out for you. :)

And thanks for the input, IDMG. I will put the POG2 back on my purchase-consideration list. Speaking of which... I can't believe how long it's been since I've bought any gear! And it's not even a money issue this time. Something must be wrong with me.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 08 May 2013, 10:46
Oh man, if I wasn't dirt poor, I'd have bought half the stock in my guitar shop this year :(
I want a decent delay or two, a looper, some more fuzz pedals for the fuzz god, a vintage champ so I can build a 5x5watt stereo rig, a rickenbacker and a decent bass.
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Post by: IDMG on 08 May 2013, 14:24
And thanks for the input, IDMG. I will put the POG2 back on my purchase-consideration list. Speaking of which... I can't believe how long it's been since I've bought any gear! And it's not even a money issue this time. Something must be wrong with me.

On that note, things to keep in mind about all octavers, specifically concerning octave-down applications but it also applies to octave-up:

1. Polyphonic octave tracking is still something we're kinda working on so it isn't going to be perfect.
2. All octavers work better with low gain, compressed signals or on the neck pup with the tone rolled off.

But, adjusting the way you play can be all the difference (backing off on your picking attack is magic).
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Post by: Kwaping on 10 May 2013, 09:12
Who's "we"?
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Post by: Patrick on 10 May 2013, 15:32
I assume "people" because I've never found one that worked perfectly. That's actually half the fun if you ask me. I use the octave-up function on my DigiTech Whammy rather like Radiohead does in "My Iron Lung". I'm going to see if I can't twist Matt's arm into letting me fuck with it on the next album.
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Post by: IDMG on 10 May 2013, 22:12
Who's "we"?

"we as a society".

Or the aspects of it that work on music technology anyways.
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Post by: Patrick on 12 May 2013, 02:41
The best part about that is that we, as musicians, are stereotypically the least likely to get shit done quickly
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 12 May 2013, 03:10
The best part about that is that we, as musicians, are stereotypically the least likely to get shit done quickly

I've been planning to go and buy milk for weeks
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 12 May 2013, 14:54
The tracking on the POG is absolutely fine for me. I don't think it would perfectly track Eruption or anything like that, but it does everything I want it to so far.

In other gear news: Guitar Center gave me a surprisingly good deal on a trade-in this morning, and now I have one of these:

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8075/goldstrat.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/goldstrat.gif/)

And it plays and sounds as good as it looks tacky and horrible.
I have bad taste in guitars.
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Post by: Kwaping on 13 May 2013, 06:47
I love gooooooold!

But seriously, I do like that guitar. Congrats!
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 13 May 2013, 11:22
It's ugly, but in that "I respect that man infinitely more for playing that on stage and not giving a fuck what people think" kind of way.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 13 May 2013, 11:24
Also I saw motherfucking Boris last night. Wata's rig gave me a half-chub.
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Post by: IDMG on 13 May 2013, 13:40
sadly they're making no stops in my area.
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Post by: Patrick on 13 May 2013, 15:37
as truly ugly as that guitar is, you are definitely ballsy for owning it. reespek
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 14 May 2013, 19:32
My dad gave me his shitty Mesa Nomad he never plays anymore. Guess who's trading it in for an AC15 tomorrow?
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 14 May 2013, 22:13
DO IT DO IT DO IT

I love my AC15 a lot. They are beautiful amplifiers. My only gripe is very little clean headroom. 
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 15 May 2013, 07:44
Yeah, but I'm switching to it from a DRRI, which has a little too much headroom for me. Impossible to get a good tone when the cranky upstairs neighbor is home.
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Post by: Patrick on 16 May 2013, 11:39
Oh man, jealous. AC15s are nice. Yeah, there's not a whole lot of clean headroom, but you also get plenty of breakup without all the volume, making them great for recording dirty parts. You won't overwhelm the mic diaphragm. Fuck yeah.
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 16 May 2013, 12:30
So having played through it for more hours than I care to admit over the 24 hours, I think i can say I've found the perfect amp for me. I wanted it because it was quieter than my DRRI, but the thing that stands out the most is how it responds to my pick attack.  If it's dialed in just the right way it's clear and chimey when I pick soft and gets a fucking gorgeous breakup when I start to pick harder. It's something I liked about the fender, but it's much more noticeable on this amp.
Also, dat top boost channel...
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Post by: Kwaping on 16 May 2013, 16:07
I have a DRRI and am thinking about selling it for "something else". Hmmm....

Are you using any dirt pedals with it?
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Post by: boneykingofnowhere on 17 May 2013, 06:08
I'm using a Dirty Little Secret v2 and it sounds great through it. From what I've read it seems like it'll take any dirt pedal pretty well as long as it isn't too heavy on midrange.
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Post by: doombilly on 19 May 2013, 11:17
OK internet check my music theory kung fu. http://bit.ly/13E6o27  Did I get this right? All the modes, keys, chords in 1 page. pow.
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Post by: Patrick on 20 May 2013, 00:20
Dude, you fuckin beast you, thanks for that. You have no idea how much I appreciate that.
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Post by: Akima on 20 May 2013, 02:25
OK internet check my music theory kung fu. http://bit.ly/13E6o27  Did I get this right?
I don't know about the music theory, but props for using kung-fu (功夫 gōngfu) correctly!
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Post by: pwhodges on 20 May 2013, 03:02
OK internet check my music theory kung fu. http://bit.ly/13E6o27  Did I get this right? All the modes, keys, chords in 1 page. pow.

Looks good.  For completeness you might include the mode names for major (Ionian) and minor (Aeolian) scales.
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Post by: Patrick on 20 May 2013, 03:21
You know, I never knew what '...and then the mode changes' even meant until now. I usually just play it by ear and yell chord changes one at a time.
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Post by: doombilly on 21 May 2013, 10:06
OK internet check my music theory kung fu. http://bit.ly/13E6o27  Did I get this right? All the modes, keys, chords in 1 page. pow.

Looks good.  For completeness you might include the mode names for major (Ionian) and minor (Aeolian) scales.
Kind of purposely did not do that so I would not have 2 more names to keep up with. There are of course a lot of variations not included. This is the vanilla version. Plus I often confuse Ionion and Aeolian. And I sometimes think that aeolian refers to part of a nipple. :P Words, how do they fucking work?
 Also kids check out e dorian. You can use all the open (standard tuning) strings on a guit fiddle.
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Post by: Thrillho on 23 May 2013, 11:32
Jesus Christ names for things  :psyduck:

I learned just enough theory to know how to write boring music and then stopped learning. Not that I'm saying theory automatically = boring.
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Post by: TheCollyWolly on 28 May 2013, 15:07
"Chameleon" by Herbie Hancock is a great track to practice Dorian over. I've been laying down the bassline rooted on B on my Flashback, and then jamming over it in either B dorian or blues scale (which may be related, but I'm not that well-versed in the blues scale so I'm not sure.).

Modes are pretty awesome to mess around with.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 28 May 2013, 15:21
I am coveting my neighbour's Lowden.

Story: My dad brought home an acoustic guitar with a battery holder for the active pickup nailed to the inside of it. He was fixing it for a friend. With the pickup removed, it's the most beautiful thing I think I have ever played. I just looked up prices for a similar model. Three grand for a new one, about a grand for a second hand beat up one.

This guy bought it for 600 euros.

I am Jelly.
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Post by: doombilly on 31 May 2013, 05:01
Standing outside of gtr ctr in manhattan. Waiting for an interview. Not really wanting a job here but frustrated @ current retail grind.
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Post by: Kwaping on 31 May 2013, 09:20
Wow. I'm not so sure that's a step up. But hey - employee discount! It couldn't hurt to have inside info when dealing with them in the future. Just wear earplugs or noise-canceling headphones or something. Try not to kill anyone. Rock out occasionally to keep your sanity.
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Post by: KingOfIreland on 31 May 2013, 09:41
On the other hand, someone competent might finally work at guitar centre and be able to give people good advice.
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Post by: Patrick on 31 May 2013, 23:29
every parker in the store will be sold within a week of his hire :P
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Post by: doombilly on 03 Jun 2013, 06:10
I have more parkers than all of the GC's in NYC, Queens or Brooklyn.
I had a "Group" interview. Amazing that some of the other people thought to wear shoes, pants etc... It had to be a struggle for them. I swear musicians are just the lowest... in any event I cleared up why I was so peeved at my current employer so maybe this wouldn't be necessary. But it never hurts to find out what's out there.
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Post by: Kwaping on 03 Jun 2013, 09:15
Glad you cleared things up at your current job! I think I'd shoot myself if I worked at a GC.
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Post by: doombilly on 04 Jun 2013, 03:26
LAst year I might have said the same thing Kwapz. I guess that is a statement on the state of something.
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Post by: Patrick on 04 Jun 2013, 03:44
I just found out I shake a sign outside a shitty pizza chain in the middle of the second sketchiest part of town. If you can stomach it at all and it pays for the music, it's worth it.
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Post by: pwhodges on 04 Jun 2013, 04:46
This guitar thread has long passed the size that is comfortable for the forum software; please continue here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29021.0.html).