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Title: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 02 Feb 2014, 10:46
Look! A Poll!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 02 Feb 2014, 10:54
Went for "Clairepocalypse” just because it's such a nice word to say. Would be quite happy to see the swing girl show up at CoD and maybe get a name too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 02 Feb 2014, 11:32
I don't think the Tai Inquisition and the Clairepocalypse are mutually incompatible.

A lot of us seem to be expecting the Tai Inquisition. I'll mention that in passing and leave any other jokes just lying there. Pick them up at your own risk.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 02 Feb 2014, 11:36
 :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 02 Feb 2014, 16:51
I don't think the Tai Inquisition and the Clairepocalypse are mutually incompatible.

A lot of us seem to be expecting the Tai Inquisition. I'll mention that in passing and leave any other jokes just lying there. Pick them up at your own risk.  :-D

No one expects the Claire Inquisition!  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Feb 2014, 18:26
I can see all of the above. 

At once. 


Except purple monkey dishwasher, that's just silly! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 02 Feb 2014, 19:09
I can see all of the above. 

At once. 


Except purple monkey dishwasher, that's just silly!

The Tequila Bear would never allow it to hone in on its turf.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 02 Feb 2014, 19:36
As I type this, the Tai Inquisition has 12 votes.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 02 Feb 2014, 19:55
Steve and Cosette having troubles? Dang, they have been together for so long hope it's nothing serious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 02 Feb 2014, 20:16
It was a non-fulfilling random hookup, Mark, deal with it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2014, 20:21
At least Steve's using his own bathroom this time!
Steve and Cosette having troubles? Dang, they have been together for so long hope it's nothing serious.
What? No, the joke was that he was about to high five Marten and then Marten didn't deserve it anymore at the last moment so he had to stop.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 02 Feb 2014, 20:24
It was a non-fulfilling random hookup, Mark, deal with it.

 (http://i.imgur.com/d1z1LgH.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 02 Feb 2014, 20:32
At least Steve's using his own bathroom this time!
Steve and Cosette having troubles? Dang, they have been together for so long hope it's nothing serious.
What? No, the joke was that he was about to high five Marten and then Marten didn't deserve it anymore at the last moment so he had to stop.
So is the "total blueballs" in Steve's line talking about himself or Marten?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2014, 20:34
Himself, but not actual blueballs. High five blueballs (hence Marten's response).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 02 Feb 2014, 20:45
I said Jeph surprises us because I want Marten to wake up at 2:30 in the morning remembering Delilah's name.  Then Pintsize give him a boot to the head or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FilliamHMuffman on 02 Feb 2014, 20:45
Looks like Marten associates sex with emotion and feelings. When the emotion is removed he isn't satisfied and feels used. The last part you can argue isn't justified because the engagement was mutual between them, but that is not the end all be all in my opinion.

Reminds of me of an episode of Regular Show (I'm a big fan) where Mordecai is talking to Starla.
"Look, I know how Muscle Man can be. He's annoying, he smells, and he pretty much has no common decency for others, but he's still human, and he has feelings. We all do.  We're just fragile beings looking for someone to share something with. To laugh with. To love."

The latter part of the quote applies to some people and it doesn't for others. I think there would be less hostility here if we all just recognized that that is the kind of guy Marten is and to suspend judgement accordingly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2014, 20:47
Looks like Martin associates sex with emotion and feelings.
Is this strange?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FilliamHMuffman on 02 Feb 2014, 20:50
Looks like Martin associates sex with emotion and feelings.
Is this strange?

Not at all, I am the same way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 02 Feb 2014, 20:52
Looks like Martin associates sex with emotion and feelings.
Is this strange?

The feelings or the misspelling?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FilliamHMuffman on 02 Feb 2014, 20:58
Looks like Martin associates sex with emotion and feelings.
Is this strange?

The feelings or the misspelling?

Bleh, I really cannot spell names. I edited the post to correct it, thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 02 Feb 2014, 21:11
Funnily enough, I was just reading a thread on another forum discussing a similar topic (random hookups vs. actual relationships).  One post really stood out to me:

Quote
And why don't you want a relationship? In all honesty, sex with someone you love, is about a bazillion times better then a hook-up.

It's like comparing a pizza straight out of the oven, crispy, with all the tastes properly distributed to a pizza that has been in the fridge for a week. It will do if you are really hungry, but unless you are high, it will not taste as good as you hoped.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2014, 21:12
Ha, dang, I honestly didn't even notice the misspelling, and if I had I would've fixed it in my quote. But no, obviously not the misspelling.

Jazzmaster, I really don't like that post, and not only because cold pizza is awesome (and it totally is).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 02 Feb 2014, 21:29
Looks like Martin associates sex with emotion and feelings.
Is this strange?

It is something I personally don't understand but that seems to be common. But I think Filliam was just categorizing Marten into that group, not trying to say it was unusual to be in it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 02 Feb 2014, 21:34
Woo! Bonus strip with Cosette! I expected this thread was finished last week, but I was wrong. I imagine Cosette went to the bathroom after panel #1, and that the rest of the strip is without Cosette overhearing. That way, Steve can loosen up and talk to Marten as a good bro.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 02 Feb 2014, 21:46
At least Steve's using his own bathroom this time!
Steve and Cosette having troubles? Dang, they have been together for so long hope it's nothing serious.
What? No, the joke was that he was about to high five Marten and then Marten didn't deserve it anymore at the last moment so he had to stop.

Oh, I took "blue balls" and Marten's joke in the last panel to mean Steve and Cosette haven't had relations for a while...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2014, 21:59
Nah, I don't see anything to support that, Steve and Cosette seem fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 02 Feb 2014, 22:32
Cosette sure can state the obvious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 02 Feb 2014, 22:45
Nah, I don't see anything to support that, Steve and Cosette seem fine.

To me, a guy won't mention blue balls while looking down in a clearly ashamed look unless there is something to the blue balls...I hope there isn't, but I also don't believe in coincidences.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 02 Feb 2014, 22:45
Marten has turned down casual sex before, when Sven offered to introduce him to hot no-strings-attached women.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2014, 22:55
Nah, I don't see anything to support that, Steve and Cosette seem fine.

To me, a guy won't mention blue balls while looking down in a clearly ashamed look unless there is something to the blue balls...I hope there isn't, but I also don't believe in coincidences.
He's looking at his hand while talking about a high five. I'd say his look is more disappointed than ashamed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 00:23
Steve obviously thinks Marten is stupid because he's got feelings, instead of just being happy for gettin' some. I don't really get the blueballs reference, is it because Marten is not satisfied with the situation?

What are Cosette's thoughts about this? Does she feel sorry for Marten, or does she think he is an idiot? It is what we could call "slutty behavior" by Marten, but a real slut would probably not show feelings afterwards?

EDIT: Can Steve's blueball remark indicate problems between him and Cosette? If so, could Cosette's flashing last week not have been an accident, but a way to get Marten's interest?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 03 Feb 2014, 01:18
Steve was just about to do a high five. He does not get to do it. Steves compares this to blue balls. Marten then suggests that Steve relieves this by going to the bathroom to high five himself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 03 Feb 2014, 01:30
Sure - but it's really quite contrived, not one of Jeph's best by a long way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 01:47
Steve was just about to do a high five. He does not get to do it. Steves compares this to blue balls. Marten then suggests that Steve relieves this by going to the bathroom to high five himself.
Possibly, but open to interpretation. I hope we see Cosette again tomorrow. Too bad if Jeph ends this thread without resolving this issue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 03 Feb 2014, 02:06
Steve was just about to do a high five. He does not get to do it. Steves compares this to blue balls. Marten then suggests that Steve relieves this by going to the bathroom to high five himself.

Exactly, plus the implication that Steve is entitled to high five himself because he did "get some" of what Marten didn't i.e. not just the sex, but the meaningful relationship. Marten's obviously a bit jealous - in the last frame he seems to be looking at the bathroom where Cosette is, and maybe wondering what would have happened if he'd been able to take up her earlier invitation which he'd rejected because he was with Dora at the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 03 Feb 2014, 02:34
Sure - but it's really quite contrived, not one of Jeph's best by a long way.

It didn't seem remotely contrived to me. This thread, on the other hand, was a little bemusing TBH.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 03 Feb 2014, 03:00
For some reason, I suddenly have Faith No More on the brain after reading that last bit of dialogue from Mark... er, Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 03:14
Steve was just about to do a high five. He does not get to do it. Steves compares this to blue balls. Marten then suggests that Steve relieves this by going to the bathroom to high five himself.

Exactly, plus the implication that Steve is entitled to high five himself because he did "get some" of what Marten didn't i.e. not just the sex, but the meaningful relationship. Marten's obviously a bit jealous - in the last frame he seems to be looking at the bathroom where Cosette is, and maybe wondering what would have happened if he'd been able to take up her earlier invitation which he'd rejected because he was with Dora at the time.
Excellent analysis! It is good to have the Forum to discuss these things, otherwise I would have missed it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Feb 2014, 03:30
It hasn't quite started yet, but sweet Jesus can we please not spend this thread once again overanalysing one night stands. I think we pretty much well established last week that some people like 'em and some people don't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 03:31
Murphy's Law, version 1322 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1322):
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: JRDelirio on 03 Feb 2014, 04:45
I fully expect that in the QCverse there will be more than enough characters who will be sympathetic to Marten's situation and tell him, "hey, nothing wrong with being unsatisfied with a zipless hookup, just recognize it as what it is and don't get hung up on it."   There was a lot of build-up from Dora, Faye and Tai for him to get back on the saddle but they are not inside his head.   Marten is simply facing one of the risks of the model in which you go for the sexual hookup first and then see if you can build a relationship afterwards -- which as far as we can tell he has not found to be a problem before, probably because prior shootdowns happened up front a-la the lieutenant.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 07:05
Just came across an old strip (1918 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1918)) where Steve had second thoughts about Cosette moving in. Perhaps not relevant in this week's discussion, but it is always useful to have all facts at hand.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 03 Feb 2014, 07:14
Quote
I'll gues you have to to to the bathroom [...]
  :? Thats not english ... ?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Feb 2014, 07:17
The second to should be go.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 03 Feb 2014, 07:19
It's a typo. Substitute "to go to" instead.  The "t" key is just above the "g" key on US keyboards.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 03 Feb 2014, 07:26
@Method of Madness, Mr_Rose: Aaah thanks !


Looks like Martin associates sex with emotion and feelings.
Is this strange?
Apparently ? To some people.

I don't really get the blueballs reference, is it because Marten is not satisfied with the situation?
Steve is disappointed about Martens attitude. He wanted him to high five for hooking up. But Martens attitude changes Steves mind and he's "blueballed", i.e. disappointed, now. At least thats how I understood it. I'm not a native english speaker so the whole "blueballs" concept is rather alien to me.

Excellent analysis!
Actually for me it sounds pretty far fetched. Marten is thinking about the situation, thats why he's looking away, and not at Steve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: nosaJay19 on 03 Feb 2014, 07:32
Apparently everyone expects the Tai Inquisition.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 03 Feb 2014, 08:04
Murphy's Law, version 1322 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1322):
  • If you are in a relationship, you will have better offers, but are not able to act
  • If you are single, these better offers will never happen
It's not a pheromone, of course.  It's that people in a relationship are calmer and more relaxed with the opposite sex, which is much more attractive than the tenseness that comes with sexual frustration. And the longer you are single, the worse it gets as the desperation starts to show. It's like the first time job seekers' vicious circle i.e. can't get a job without experience/can't get experience without a job. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 03 Feb 2014, 08:20
Contrived though it may be, the blueballs reference is a callback. (HT MoM)

My archive-fu is weak... anyone wanna help out?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 09:11
Contrived though it may be, the blueballs reference is a callback. (HT MoM)

My archive-fu is weak... anyone wanna help out?
There are several. Here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2194) is one.

It's not a pheromone, of course.  It's that people in a relationship are calmer and more relaxed with the opposite sex, which is much more attractive than the tenseness that comes with sexual frustration. And the longer you are single, the worse it gets as the desperation starts to show. It's like the first time job seekers' vicious circle i.e. can't get a job without experience/can't get experience without a job. 
Thank you. Now I am really depressed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 03 Feb 2014, 09:19
I was specifically thinking of the one where Steve is hanging with Dora and Marten... "There's lotion under the sink"

Referenced over in that time-wasting website:
(click to show/hide)

Oops. found it in a cross-reference: "At least a ball pit is better than nothing" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1556)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 03 Feb 2014, 12:05
Bro mo no go oh no.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 03 Feb 2014, 12:28
Bro mo no go oh no.
Yoko Ono?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 03 Feb 2014, 12:53
Moho
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Feb 2014, 13:23
Yolo- *blam*

*thud*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Feb 2014, 13:30
Bro mo no go oh no.

I didn't  know you spoke Judoon.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 03 Feb 2014, 15:03
At the risk of derailing, there is a perfect example of why I think Davies kinda blew as a show runner.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 03 Feb 2014, 15:39
It was a non-fulfilling random hookup, Mark, deal with it.

Marten has proven over and over that he is a relationship guy - a stroll through the archives will prove that pretty handily. He just needs to realize that sometimes, it's ok to just enjoy the ride (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1090) without the baggage.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 03 Feb 2014, 16:36
At the risk of derailing, there is a perfect example of why I think Davies kinda blew as a show runner.

I dunno about that. He did get a bit weird at the end of his term, but he did bring the series back in a big way. I fukkin loved the Eccleston series and the first Tennant series.
Similarly, Moffat started well (especially his one-off shows during the Tennant series), but now it's just plain weird.


Anyway, yes, comic. back on track. very good. hookups. Mark. Dumbledore. yes.
I do think you guys are overthinking the whole Steve "blue balls" thing. He really did just want a high-five.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Feb 2014, 16:41
Ha, that's what I've been saying this whole time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Feb 2014, 17:40
What, overthinking on this forum? Never!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 03 Feb 2014, 17:52
What, overthinking on this forum? Never!  :-D

And perfect timing, Marigold overthinks her date with Dale in today's strippy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 03 Feb 2014, 17:59
"Uh, Marigold, the apartment is on fire."
"I said, NOTHING CAN GO WRONG."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 03 Feb 2014, 18:05
What, the comic is up already? This is the earliest I can remember it ever going up.

That is a VERY white dress Marigold is wearing. If she so much as moves a muscle, she'll spill something all over it and have to change. So yeah, she's just going to sit really still for the next ten hours.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Feb 2014, 18:20
Hasn't she worn it before?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 03 Feb 2014, 18:38
Yep. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1675)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 19:16
What, overthinking on this forum? Never!  :-D
And perfect timing, Marigold overthinks her date with Dale in today's strippy.
Oh well, it is good to be prepared. I foresee more awkwardness. What can Momo do this time? Will she need help from May? How can they possibly avoid utter failure?

Recommended medication: A solid dose of alcohol. It has worked before. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1630)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: riccostar on 03 Feb 2014, 19:30
Up next: the most cautious date in human history
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 03 Feb 2014, 19:34
Hasn't she worn it before?
Yep. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1675)
And she has the most amazing rack in that dress. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1684)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 03 Feb 2014, 21:09
Marigold, you are ruining the Clairepocalypse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 03 Feb 2014, 21:48
Funnily enough, I was just reading a thread on another forum discussing a similar topic (random hookups vs. actual relationships).  One post really stood out to me:

Quote
And why don't you want a relationship? In all honesty, sex with someone you love, is about a bazillion times better then a hook-up.

It's like comparing a pizza straight out of the oven, crispy, with all the tastes properly distributed to a pizza that has been in the fridge for a week. It will do if you are really hungry, but unless you are high, it will not taste as good as you hoped.

...so, wait. In this example, hot fresh pizza is the long-term relationship while cold kept pizza is the random hook-up? Did the person making this analogy realize they were completely inverting the chronology of pizza-to-relationship measurement when they wrote this?

I mean, if you think about it from a timeline perspective, disregarding temperature characteristics, the random hook-up is the hot fresh pizza you haven't tried yet and the long-term relationship is the cold pizza you've had before and already know you enjoy enough to keep it around after the heat has died down. Whether or not that analogy works sorta depends on what a given person thinks of hot vs. cold pizza, but attributing them the other way around just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Feb 2014, 21:59
I'm kind of uncomfortable with comparing people to pizza and I'm also kind of hungry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: LookingIn on 03 Feb 2014, 22:02
Hasn't she worn it before?
Yep. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1675)
And she has the most amazing rack in that dress. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1684)

I am extremely glad I wasn't the only one who thought that about the dress  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 03 Feb 2014, 22:08
I'm kind of uncomfortable with comparing people to pizza and I'm also kind of hungry.
Here, have some Soylent Green.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 03 Feb 2014, 22:11
Pizza stuff.
More pizza stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/1vZvdZK.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Feb 2014, 22:11
I'm kind of uncomfortable with comparing people to pizza and I'm also kind of hungry.
Here, have some Soylent Green.
I see what you did there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 03 Feb 2014, 22:44
Hasn't she worn it before?
Yep. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1675)
And she has the most amazing rack in that dress. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1684)
In today's strip, the rack is even more amazing. I do not suspect Marigold has had breast enlargement, so I would attribute it to Jeph's character development and accompanying drawing style. I do not know if Dale has a breast fetish (but Sven certainly has (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1764)).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Feb 2014, 00:18
Murphy's Law, version 1322 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1322):
  • If you are in a relationship, you will have better offers, but are not able to act
  • If you are single, these better offers will never happen

To all of you fantasizing theorizing about Marten / Cosette, may I remind you that the above mentioned strip is Cosette's first appearance. 

Wherein she has worked up the nerve to ask Our Intrepid Anti-Hero out for a date.  Of course, she decides to drown her sorrows at CoD (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1323), and the arc climaxes here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1327). 

One of Jeph's best intro's ever.  Gets straight to the heart of Cosette's character...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Feb 2014, 00:40
At the risk of derailing, there is a perfect example of why I think Davies kinda blew as a show runner.

I dunno about that. He did get a bit weird at the end of his term, but he did bring the series back in a big way. I fukkin loved the Eccleston series and the first Tennant series.
Similarly, Moffat started well (especially his one-off shows during the Tennant series), but now it's just plain weird.

I also love the Eccleston series, but I hate that Davies seems to think 'we need an idea for an alien, so let's just anthropomorphosise an animal. Space pig! Space rhino!'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 04 Feb 2014, 01:34
The space pig was a pig. A regular Earth pig, surgically altered as part of a moderately sophisticated misdirection. That is, there never was an actual space pig.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Feb 2014, 01:38
No. But there was a space rhino.

Why are they just rhinos? They couldn't come up with something better?

I'm sure there was a third one as well but I can't remember it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 04 Feb 2014, 02:26
The trouble is that, with the truly incredible diversity of life on Earth, it's nearly inevitable that anything you come up with is going to be, on some level, a Space <$extantSpecies>
Unless it's a Space <$mythologicalSpecies> of course.
After ten thousand years of humans telling each other stories and fifteen billion years of evolution coming up with increasingly bizarre ways to live, avoiding overlapping one or both is increasingly hard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 04 Feb 2014, 02:36
Why vertebrates at all, though?  In order to get to an industrial civilization, you kinda need large land animals (for reasons of fire and logistics).  Large land animals on Earth are all vertebrates, but imagine vertebrates never developed.  Would nature have to invent them, or would some other branch of life develop to fill that niche?

Vertebrates (with attributes like bone, teeth, and hair) are a cop-out.  If you're going to go that way, you might as well admit the aliens are not really alien.  Have all worlds populated by humans, and have them all wonder how that came to be ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 04 Feb 2014, 02:59
The trouble is that, with the truly incredible diversity of life on Earth, it's nearly inevitable that anything you come up with is going to be, on some level, a Space <$extantSpecies>
Unless it's a Space <$mythologicalSpecies> of course.
After ten thousand years of humans telling each other stories and fifteen billion years of evolution coming up with increasingly bizarre ways to live, avoiding overlapping one or both is increasingly hard.

Right, call me when we contact the Glorious Labia People of Smirnoff 5.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Feb 2014, 02:59
They couldn't even make a rhino with like, ten horns, or no ears, or a rhino elephant hybrid?

Nope. Just a rhino face.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Feb 2014, 03:31
As for amazing racks: Of the main characters, only Faye and Marigold qualifies (and Marigold wins). How does this influence past/present/potential partners? Are they attracted to big boobs, or is this of secondary importance?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Feb 2014, 03:32
Oh Jesus Christ...

...Not sure how many of our female forumites will approve of the phrase 'settling' for small tits.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 04 Feb 2014, 03:43
imagine vertebrates never developed.  Would nature have to invent them, or would some other branch of life develop to fill that niche?

Well, you're not going to get very far with any form of industrial civilisation without some form of rigid structure to manipulate the world with.   And there are straightforward physical reasons why exoskeletons stop being practical beyond a certain size, and so only the endoskeletal lifeforms continue to larger sizes.  Symmetry leads to a natural preference for even number of limbs, and four is an obvious minimal number for ease of locomotion (six to provide for four on the ground and a pair for manipulating things would also seem reasonable, but coming through an evolutionary path like ours, there's no obvious way to get them at the point that the need for the manipulating limbs appears).  Having a movable top to hold visual and audio sensors is also an obvious evolutionary advantage.  So consideration of the underlying needs and physical limitations does seem to point to the development of a structure not unlike out vertebrates.  Details of digestion and respiration could be greatly different, though, and might have to be so in different "atmospheric" conditions - e.g. in a liquid world (which might also modify the requirements for limbs, though not those foe some kind of rigidity).

EDIT:  Um, why have I written that lot in a WCDT thread before we've reached the weekend ramblings??
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 04 Feb 2014, 03:53
Both Dora and Tai likes big boobs (see here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1592) and here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1603)).
Nah, those links just show they like warmth.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Feb 2014, 04:01
...Not sure how many of our female forumites will approve of the phrase 'settling' for small tits.
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege. But that implies that small tits are inferior to big boobs. In reality, it is about personal preferences and fetishes. As for myself, I really like small tits.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 04 Feb 2014, 04:17
imagine vertebrates never developed.  Would nature have to invent them, or would some other branch of life develop to fill that niche?

Well, you're not going to get very far with any form of industrial civilisation without some form of rigid structure to manipulate the world with.   And there are straightforward physical reasons why exoskeletons stop being practical beyond a certain size, and so only the endoskeletal lifeforms continue to larger sizes.  Symmetry leads to a natural preference for even number of limbs, and four is an obvious minimal number for ease of locomotion (six to provide for four on the ground and a pair for manipulating things would also seem reasonable, but coming through an evolutionary path like ours, there's no obvious way to get them at the point that the need for the manipulating limbs appears).  Having a movable top to hold visual and audio sensors is also an obvious evolutionary advantage.  So consideration of the underlying needs and physical limitations does seem to point to the development of a structure not unlike out vertebrates.
Most of those features are okay; they're almost required to "fill that niche".  I'm not sure about those handwaved "physical reasons".  Coconut crabs can reach six feet, which is probably sufficient size for an industrial civilization.  8-)  (You may be thinking of the limits of the trachea, perhaps?  With branchiostegal lungs, the coconut crab has transcended that limit.  If the vertebrates were to disappear, the coconut crab would be a good candidate for evolving into species that fill at least part of our niche.)

But usefulness does not a requirement make.  Movable top?  Useful, but not necessary.

Vertebrate features that are not required by the "industrial civilization" requirement include bones, teeth, hair (as mentioned), jaws, mouth breathing (no invertebrate with "lungs" breathe through their mouths), and necks (hey, if you develop from a species without vertebrae, you're not going to suddenly have a few vertebrae just because a movable head might be useful - see insects for one or two alternatives).  And that's just touching the head ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 04 Feb 2014, 04:46
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 04 Feb 2014, 04:47
I'm just going to throw out the fact that Doctor Who isn't a hard science fiction show, has a limited budget that necessitates that most of their "aliens" be humans in costume, and is supposed to appeal to kids. Given those constraints, somebody came up with "Space Rhinos!" and ran with it.

I'll also throw out that Marigold is not a space rhino. Just in case anyone was wondering.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Feb 2014, 05:05
As far as we know :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Feb 2014, 05:10
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
I did not catch that, but it might be because English is not my native language. Sorry if it was used in a wrong context.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 04 Feb 2014, 05:31
They couldn't even make a rhino with like, ten horns, or no ears, or a rhino elephant hybrid?

Nope. Just a rhino face.

Don't forget there were also the Hath (not sure of the spelling), which were basically people with fish-heads.

But then again, what would Doctor Who be without cheesy humanoid aliens in really cheap outfits. That's what made the older series so brilliant - they succeeded despite the low budget. Or rather, because of it.

Not a fan of the current script-writing, but Moffat's early monsters were fucking brilliant. Real mind-fuck monsters. The soulless gaze of the gas mask zombies and the weeping angels come to mind here. ("Blink is pretty much my favourite episode of all time").


(And I'm not even going to bother commenting on the other current topic of discussion here.  There are plenty of other forums on the internets to discuss boobs if you really feel the need to.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 04 Feb 2014, 05:44
As for amazing racks: Of the main characters, only Faye and Marigold qualifies (and Marigold wins). How does this influence past/present/potential partners? Are they attracted to big boobs, or is this of secondary importance?

A bit in line with Gareth's post:
:roll: I'm just wondering very much why we should have a discussion on how profoundly or not the female characters' boob size have influenced the relationships they're in at all (and based on today's strip in particular). Are we next going to discuss how Marten's romantic life or lack of a relationship is influenced by his dick size?!

RE: past comics
These prove for me what I thought about the new comic format: It's liable to have less content per comic. The characters are now often drawn way more close-up (bigger) than before and the font has doubled in size, so Jeph has more or less halved the content by making the single panels larger. Which is or course fine if Jeph likes it better, but I still hope that comics like during the party with more panels with smaller people in them will be more common than these two or three-panel comics with large close-ups and hardly any dialogue. Just my personal opinion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 04 Feb 2014, 06:05
I agree with Mlle Germain on all accounts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 04 Feb 2014, 06:42
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
I did not catch that, but it might be because English is not my native language. Sorry if it was used in a wrong context.
Oh no, it's perfectly correct, if slightly archaic, English. It is, however, bad American; where "privilege" is stigmatised you naturally get push-back when you tell people they have it. Modern usage would suggest "it is their right" instead.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 06:46
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
I did not catch that, but it might be because English is not my native language. Sorry if it was used in a wrong context.

Nothing wrong with your word use - it is correct in this context. However, it also has a specific meaning when talking about oppression of minorities or systematic favouring of a particular group (people talk about "white privilege" or "male privilege" etc and it's a shorthand for the advantages that come with being part of those groups). I don't think that should mean it can't be used in its more general sense of a right you are glad to be in possession of. An alternative word that doesn't have the same nuance of meaning on the internet is "prerogative", with almost an identical meaning.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 04 Feb 2014, 08:00
...Not sure how many of our female forumites will approve of the phrase 'settling' for small tits.
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege. But that implies that small tits are inferior to big boobs. In reality, it is about personal preferences and fetishes. As for myself, I really like small tits.
Anything more than a mouthful is wasted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 08:25
I really despise that phrase. It is almost invariably being used in a sexual sense, and it implies that the sole purpose of breasts is to please other people, by being available for sucking.

Of course if you are talking about breastfeeding, that is still complete rubbish because the entire breast is involved in creating the milk, through the glands, not just the nipple and areola.

Basically, please don't ever tell someone that a percentage of their body is "wasted" because it doesn't precisely conform to what you want from it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 04 Feb 2014, 09:28
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/40499/1939261-daffy_duck.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Feb 2014, 09:38
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
I did not catch that, but it might be because English is not my native language. Sorry if it was used in a wrong context.
Oh no, it's perfectly correct, if slightly archaic, English. It is, however, bad American; where "privilege" is stigmatised you naturally get push-back when you tell people they have it. Modern usage would suggest "it is their right" instead.
Correct English is perhaps a topic in another discussion. One problem is that there are several variants. Another problem is us stupid foreigners who make mistakes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Feb 2014, 10:41
I think the point is that you are neither stupid, nor mistaken in your usage. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nuclear_Nipple_Tester on 04 Feb 2014, 10:57
Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
I did not catch that, but it might be because English is not my native language. Sorry if it was used in a wrong context.
Oh no, it's perfectly correct, if slightly archaic, English. It is, however, bad American; where "privilege" is stigmatised you naturally get push-back when you tell people they have it. Modern usage would suggest "it is their right" instead.
Correct English is perhaps a topic in another discussion. One problem is that there are several variants. Another problem is us stupid foreigners who make mistakes.

Funny,  I've started running into "privilege shaming" in certain areas of the US.    Not sure why I should feel shame for having a job and a car and a nice shirt...  I worked very hard to earn those things.   If they were in fact privilege and not earned I wouldn't be confused.    To me it seems a case of "that word doesn't mean what you think it means."     

On the subject of boob-size...   Boobs -- large or small -- get you noticed.   Everything and anything  else that comes after that initial "mmm boobs" moment renders them largely (or smally heh) irrelevant.  ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 11:02
I would suggest heading over to the Discuss forum and reading the stickied thread at the top - privilege is not earned, it is an advantage achieved at birth which makes it easier for you to get a job and a car and a nice shirt. You aren't being shamed, you are being asked to recognise that for people who do not have the same privilege of being the right colour, the right social class, the right gender, the right appearance or whatever, it is not as easy to earn the things that you consider to be your due.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nuclear_Nipple_Tester on 04 Feb 2014, 11:06
I would suggest heading over to the Discuss forum and reading the stickied thread at the top - privilege is not earned, it is an advantage achieved at birth which makes it easier for you to get a job and a car and a nice shirt. You aren't being shamed, you are being asked to recognise that for people who do not have the same privilege of being the right colour, the right social class, the right gender, the right appearance or whatever, it is not as easy to earn the things that you consider to be your due.

I think I'll do just that, thank you.

Despite any advantage others may perceive me as having,  those things I mention still had to be earned.    Of course it is just a bit off to shame someone over perceived privilege when you don't know what they had to overcome to earn that nice shirt.  I think that is what bothers me most about it.   

Anyway,  back to the comic discussion!  I'll take a look at the other thread you mentioned.   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 11:18
The advantage is societally ingrained, it's not a discredit on an individual to benefit from it but it is, if nothing else, polite to recognise it.

Also, the thread I was referring to is no longer stickied - I wasn't meaning to direct you to the rules, sorry! In fact I can't find it anywhere, including the trashbin...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 04 Feb 2014, 11:22
Probably you mean the one in "Relate", right? That one is stickied and it's called "Privilege and Self-examination" or something similar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 04 Feb 2014, 11:24
  • Sven definitely likes big boobs (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1764) (and ass).

I thought Sven was more of a....latent chubby chaser? That convo with Hanners really kinda leans that way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 04 Feb 2014, 11:30
...I would suggest heading over to the Discuss forum...In fact I can't find it anywhere, including the trashbin...

 It's in the RELATE section:
 Privilege and Self Examination (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29384.0.html).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Feb 2014, 11:30
It always was, I'm the one who stickied it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 04 Feb 2014, 11:48
I actually quite like Marigold, but her skin has been driving me insane since that first time in CoD that Dora suggested a makeover. Of course some acne/face rashes/etc can't be prevented, but the blackheads and stuff, augh. Even if she wasn't gross and pop-y with them, they're easy to get rid of. Hot water, maybe exfoliate, use an oil cleanser and a good moisturizer, use some salicylic acid to chemically exfoliate the pores now and then. Since she has had it forever and it's America so prescriptions (if they were needed) are more expensive, I understand that it wouldn't get perfect, but it could be a lot better.

Her hygiene has been getting better since before Faye and Angus, and Hanners has great hygiene and good skin, so I can't imagine why she hasn't gotten onto some kind of skin care, even if it's just a drug store wash and moisturizer.

(although her skin got notably better right started having hygiene and lost the rats, it hasn't really since then)

Just a barely-related complaint, I was looking at her face in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 11:58
Thank you guys, I thought I was going mad! Of course it's there, that's the logical place for it to be :psyduck:

Smallest, I had bad skin for years and years and nothing shifted it, not even medication. I just had to wait until I grew out of it (and going on the Pill helped, I think).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Feb 2014, 12:01
Then there's nerves.  She's been anticipating this date for a while, and oddly enough, that can influence bad skin conditions...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 12:26
Plus what does it matter? If it's not uncomfortable and not causing her any problems, and it's clearly not putting off Dale from wanting to date her, then why should she scrub her skin with chemicals? Maybe I'm a little sensitive since I lived with acne for over a decade and was bullied about it but your post seems pretty shaming - "if you just tried harder you'd have better skin, why are you so lazy and therefore ugly?".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Feb 2014, 12:30
It's a pretty common reaction by people with good skin privilege...   :angel: :roll: :-D :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 12:36
You know what, it's not even about privilege. It's about not being an asshat - just treat people nicely! And remember that sometimes other people are not the same as you and they are probably the experts in their own lives and you should accept what they tell you about themselves. If you follow those two rules you get a long way without even starting to think about privilege.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 12:36
Sorry, Smallest, that wasn't directed at you, I'm not saying you're an asshat. I'm a wee tad grumpy this evening.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nuclear_Nipple_Tester on 04 Feb 2014, 12:44
Sorry, Smallest, that wasn't directed at you, I'm not saying you're an asshat. I'm a wee tad grumpy this evening.

Oh sure.  Don't get me started on  over-privileged grumpy people and your right to demand that the rest of us get off your lawn.    I GRUMP-PRIVILEGE SHAME YOU WITH THE FORCE OF A SMALL VIGOROUS SNOW-STORM!!!     :-D

(and just to be 100% clear that is strictly a joke.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 12:48
It's my party and I'll grump if I want to!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 04 Feb 2014, 13:08
Is there any canonical evidence that the things on her face are acne and not just plain freckles and/or beauty marks?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 04 Feb 2014, 13:09
Trigger warning: Grumpiness.
Grumpiness warning: Triggers.
Warning: Grumpy triggers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 04 Feb 2014, 13:26
(http://www.mouses-house.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/grumpy.jpeg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Feb 2014, 13:38
Meanwhile, it is still 9 AM in QC. Marigold still has a lot of waiting to do. With the usual time dilation effect, we should expect Dale to arrive around Easter (our time). Marten is probably walking home, depressed and lonely. I assume it is Sunday morning, someone (probably Dora) is opening CoD. Tai is on her way to report about Marten's activities last night.

So, what else can happen during a long and boring day? We shall see tomorrow!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Feb 2014, 13:39
(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130123203938/gamegrumps/images/6/61/GREP.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 04 Feb 2014, 14:40
Plus what does it matter? If it's not uncomfortable and not causing her any problems, and it's clearly not putting off Dale from wanting to date her, then why should she scrub her skin with chemicals? Maybe I'm a little sensitive since I lived with acne for over a decade and was bullied about it but your post seems pretty shaming - "if you just tried harder you'd have better skin, why are you so lazy and therefore ugly?".
I have awful skin too. Thankfully I outgrew the worst of it (constant rashes on my forehead spreading down my face), but I still have worse than normal skin. I don't think me or Marigold is ugly though (she actually looks like my friend's prettier sister, although a truly ugly character would be conceptually interesting). The reason Marigold bothers me is that she complains about her appearance, which is a problem, and given her history of uncleanliness but recent showering and stuff (I can't get this down on paper the way I want it to read), it doesn't seem like she's working on that part. Of course I could be wrong, but my interpretation is that she isn't trying, not has incurable skin issues, and although early on I might have gone 'poor marigold doesn't know how to take care of her skin and feels ugly :(' I feel like by now, one of the girls (most likely Hanners) would have helped her figure that out. The complaining but not trying to fix it is what bothers me. Maybe she has tried to fix it, but it doesn't seem so.

Not sure if I made that any more understandable or less offensive. I think I repeated myself trying to clarify which makes me sound dumb, whoops.

Regarding whether or not it's acne- what I thought were blackheads could be moles or freckles, but most of the spots move around
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 04 Feb 2014, 14:46
Spots aren't anything to do with cleanliness though, they're usually caused by either a bacterial infection or fluctuating hormonal levels.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 04 Feb 2014, 14:47
The reason Marigold bothers me is that she complains about her appearance, which is a problem, and given her history of uncleanliness but recent showering and stuff (I can't get this down on paper the way I want it to read), it doesn't seem like she's working on that part. Of course I could be wrong, but my interpretation is that she isn't trying, not has incurable skin issues, and although early on I might have gone 'poor marigold doesn't know how to take care of her skin and feels ugly :(' I feel like by now, one of the girls (most likely Hanners) would have helped her figure that out. The complaining but not trying to fix it is what bothers me. Maybe she has tried to fix it, but it doesn't seem so.

You ever known anyone with self-esteem issues before? Know how many overweight people I know who complain about feeling fat and do absolutely nothing about it because they think it won't make a difference? It's pretty common. When people experience self-loathing they don't think anything will help.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 04 Feb 2014, 16:43
It was a non-fulfilling random hookup, Mark, deal with it.

Marten has proven over and over that he is a relationship guy - a stroll through the archives will prove that pretty handily. He just needs to realize that sometimes, it's ok to just enjoy the ride (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1090) without the baggage.

Which can take quite a while if you've really bought into the "sex is no good if it's not with someone you love" viewpoint -- I believe I was already in my forties by the time I figured that out. By then I was already married to my second wife (who was also my second girlfriend), and since we're still married, figuring that out didn't really help me at that point.  8-)

Yep. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1675)

Haha, yes, and that particular occasion led to one of my favorite Marigold strips, 1684 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1684).

Edit: And yeah, I should have finished reading the rest of the posts before posting that link, since at least two other people beat me to it.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 04 Feb 2014, 17:22
The reason Marigold bothers me is that she complains about her appearance, which is a problem, and given her history of uncleanliness but recent showering and stuff (I can't get this down on paper the way I want it to read), it doesn't seem like she's working on that part. Of course I could be wrong, but my interpretation is that she isn't trying, not has incurable skin issues, and although early on I might have gone 'poor marigold doesn't know how to take care of her skin and feels ugly :(' I feel like by now, one of the girls (most likely Hanners) would have helped her figure that out. The complaining but not trying to fix it is what bothers me. Maybe she has tried to fix it, but it doesn't seem so.

You ever known anyone with self-esteem issues before? Know how many overweight people I know who complain about feeling fat and do absolutely nothing about it because they think it won't make a difference? It's pretty common. When people experience self-loathing they don't think anything will help.

This is a fair argument.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 04 Feb 2014, 18:50
RE: past comics
These prove for me what I thought about the new comic format: It's liable to have less content per comic. The characters are now often drawn way more close-up (bigger) than before and the font has doubled in size, so Jeph has more or less halved the content by making the single panels larger.

I disagree. Taking 2632 as an example, under the stricter 4-panel  format, we would have seen multiple panels of Marigold sitting on the couch, fretting. With this new layout, we see more of her body language, so we're more aware of what she's feeling. Also I take the additional area given to that panel to mean that we should give it more attention/more weight in terms of the timing and the beats. I don't see what content has been taken away.

Looking now at 2630, the wider top and bottom allow us to get more detail in the frame. Jeph can then show us the rhythm of Marten getting challenged by Cosette in a way he couldn't get away with as easily in the four-panel layout... side by side opposing views...then return to the original framing for the punchline.

I think Jeph's providing the same content as before, he's just using framing and art to express it more now instead of words. I'm getting a better sense of the rhythm and timing than before, and I'm enjoying it, even the sparse comics

Which is or course fine if Jeph likes it better, but I still hope that comics like during the party with more panels with smaller people in them will be more common than these two or three-panel comics with large close-ups and hardly any dialogue.
I think the next big party scene is going to have some setup panels that are extraordinary and detailed, and then he'll zoom in when he wants to isolate for dialogue. The new format will give him more tools with which to tell his story the way he wants to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Flowers4Hordak on 04 Feb 2014, 19:07
Quote
Marigold: "If I sit right here and don't move nothing can go wrong."

Jeph, get out of my head! :wink: Seriously, though... I have my first date in three years, my third ever, and I've had to postpone it twice already--once due to car trouble, and once due to blizzardy-conditions and me being sick. What the frick?! Cursed, I tell ya. Cursed.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 04 Feb 2014, 19:11
Quote
Marigold: "If I sit right here and don't move nothing can go wrong."

Jeph, get out of my head! :wink: Seriously, though... I have my first date in three years, my third ever, and I've had to postpone it twice already--once due to car trouble, and once due to blizzardy-conditions and me being sick. What the frick?! Cursed, I tell ya. Cursed.  :roll:

I was always the exact opposite but for the same reason. Do stuff all day, then put on my makeup and get dressed right before leaving in the minimum time possible so I wouldn't be able to smudge my face or spill stuff on myself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Feb 2014, 19:16
@F4H - Considering it's your third date and it's been three years since your last one, it makes sense that it would take three attempts :parrot:

And welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Feb 2014, 20:11
Is there any canonical evidence that the things on her face are acne and not just plain freckles and/or beauty marks?

In strip 1495 Marigold said she had "bad skin", but that's not conclusive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 04 Feb 2014, 21:07
Well, now I'm pretty sure it's a stress break out
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Feb 2014, 21:15
Eep.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 04 Feb 2014, 21:17
Oh dear.  Flashbacks of when I got chickenpox in my mid twenties.  NOT good material for a comic strip, or is it?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 04 Feb 2014, 21:20
maybe they're hives?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Feb 2014, 21:38
chickenpox in my mid twenties.
How on earth did you get it that late?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 04 Feb 2014, 21:50
Benadryl now, maybe.  She should probably pack an EpiPen for the actual date.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 04 Feb 2014, 22:14
chickenpox in my mid twenties.
How on earth did you get it that late?

If you managed to avoid it as a kid, then you can still catch it. It is also apparently possible (albeit rare) to catch it a second time. I've known one person to have that happen. Apparently it was nasty.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Feb 2014, 22:25
If you managed to avoid it as a kid
That's what I meant, though. How did they not catch it as a kid?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 04 Feb 2014, 23:55
If you managed to avoid it as a kid
That's what I meant, though. How did they not catch it as a kid?


...by just not catching it? Pretty sure I never did.

Well, if they want to get angry, it is their privilege.
You might want to be more careful with your choice of words.
I did not catch that, but it might be because English is not my native language. Sorry if it was used in a wrong context.
Oh no, it's perfectly correct, if slightly archaic, English. It is, however, bad American; where "privilege" is stigmatised you naturally get push-back when you tell people they have it. Modern usage would suggest "it is their right" instead.

Prerogative.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: girlcrimson on 05 Feb 2014, 00:02
I never caught chicken pox and I spent my whole childhood either at my public elementary school or at my home full of day care kids. I didn't realize you needed chicken pox before being initiated into adulthood...? Is it that uncommon not to get it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 05 Feb 2014, 00:08
maybe they're hives?

I guess so, from the title.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 05 Feb 2014, 00:43
Quote from: jeph
Time for some Benadryl, Mar-Bear.

Or some thorazine...   :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 05 Feb 2014, 01:32
Chicken pox as an adult is or can be shingles, which is more serious - that's why it's best to get it as a child and build up immunity. I think my uncle got shingles despite having had chicken pox as a kid though, so it's not foolproof.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Feb 2014, 01:41
Chicken pox as an adult is or can be shingles, which is more serious - that's why it's best to get it as a child and build up immunity.

Wrong - shingles results from the dormant chickenpox virus from an earlier infection reactivating in later life.  If you've not had chickenpox you won't get shingles.

I think my uncle got shingles despite having had chicken pox as a kid though, so it's not foolproof.

That's exactly how it works.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Feb 2014, 02:10
And here I thought "shingles" very just drunk singles...  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 05 Feb 2014, 02:48
Poor Marbear, she's committed now! At least she's not running away...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Feb 2014, 03:10
...Yet. We'll see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 05 Feb 2014, 03:28
And here I thought "shingles" very just drunk singles...  :-D
And I thought it were wooden rooftiles.

Well, that answers the question about the nature of Marigold's skin condition. Freckles and moles usually don't multiply under stress, not even in art forms that like to exaggerate for comedic effect.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 05 Feb 2014, 03:43
The moment you say that Nothing Can Go Wrong, is the moment that everything that can go wrong, does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 05 Feb 2014, 04:58
Ah. At first, I thought she was sweating. But reading Forum comments, followed by a closer study (and bigger screen) indicates some kind of rash. Probably nothing serious, but the date has to be postponed. Ordinarily, this could be resolved with a phone call to Dale, explaining the situation, saying she is very sorry, and ask for a new date. But nothing is easy with this relationship. As for a new date, Dale is probably busy at work for the foreseeable future. Any progression in this relationship has to be put on indefinite hold.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 05 Feb 2014, 05:53
It's just hives. Jeph more or less said so, pointing out she needs some Benadryl. I had hives during some work-related stress in my 20s, and it seemed to take a godawful amount of time before a doctor suggested Benadryl, which worked immediately. Before that I was told to check for allergies -- had I changed detergents? Use calamine lotion, or even calodryl lotion -- useless. I don't remember spots so much as itchy rashes. If I scratched a small itch on, say, a forearm, it turned into a rash the length of the scratch, and the other forearm was likely to start to itch. Strange stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Feb 2014, 06:29
Or you can just be vaccinated.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 05 Feb 2014, 06:53
I don't remember spots so much as itchy rashes

Yes, large pink areas, not small round spots as Jeph has drawn. I'm surprised he didn't get that detail right, if it's supposed to be hives.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 05 Feb 2014, 07:21
It's just hives.
Nah, that would be too easy, and could be cured before the date. The rash is introduced for a reason, and I suspect it will either cause the date to be cancelled, or transformed into something else. Perhaps Dale is also getting sick, one could have infected the other when they kissed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 05 Feb 2014, 07:29
How bizarre, I have spent the last two decades believing that I could not get shingles because I had had chickenpox. Is it an outdated belief? I'm sure I recall reading about "chickenpox parties" where parents would get their children to spend time with the child who had chickenpox, to get it over with before it was more risky.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Feb 2014, 07:54
Barmy, that's exactly right.  Catching chickenpox for the first time as an adult is more dangerous than catching it as a child, and can often lead to serious complications including pneumonia.  The scarring is much worse, as well, and the fever that comes with it is likely to be much higher, possibly dangerous in and of itself. 

This is why people would willingly give it to their kids - a few days of misery and rash with a slight fever, and you're protected for life. 

However, the virus stays with you for life, usually living in your nervous system.  If there are times when your immune system becomes compromised for some reason - age, or great stress, or another illness - the virus manifests itself in the form of shingles, named for the horizontally striped rash that develops, usually on your sides, though it can show up in other places (it happened to my wife when she was pregnant and having gall bladder issues and still trying to work, STRESS!!). 

Since some kids also develop serious complications, they went and developed a vaccine, which put an end to those pox parties.  If you're an adult who's never had it, you should get vaccinated - if you don't know whether you had it, they can test for the antibodies to see if you really need it. 

Disclaimer:  I am not a doctor, just a Ph.D. who's had to deal with vicarious shitloads of medical issues. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 05 Feb 2014, 07:54
Pox parties were just to get it over with because the earlier the better (and less painful, generally), or in the hope that the exposure would be sufficient to create immunity without the disease taking hold, and without the danger (mistakenly believed in) of vaccines; but current preference is not to give your children a disease on purpose!  People used to have the same practice with measles - but that's a genuinely serious disease, so should be actively avoided (hence the MMR vaccines, of course).

As far as I'm aware, shingles has always been known to be a follow-up to chickenpox, not an alternative.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Feb 2014, 08:20
I can speak from personal experience about the dangers of chicken pox as an adult. I got it at 26, and wound up with a fever of 105°F.

But that's not what Marigold has here, so no need to hospitalize her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 05 Feb 2014, 08:37
Interesting, thanks for enlightening me :)

I don't think the date will be cancelled - I suspect Marigold will freak out, Momo will reason with her and possibly buy some industrial-strength concealer to placate Marigold's fears that Dale will go off her if she has red spots on her face, and the date will be fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 05 Feb 2014, 08:56
maybe they're hives?
I guess so, from the title.
I always miss the title text because I'm too eager to read the comic itself
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 05 Feb 2014, 08:57
Nobody thinks they'll follow Jeph's explicit suggestion? "Time for some Benadryl, Mar-Bear."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 05 Feb 2014, 09:02
Me too, Tuba.

I've had panic-attack hives/stress breakouts/something like that before, they suck :( Now poor Marigold. Mine did look pretty much like that. I think whatever they are, it'll be non serious and she'll make the date, just really nervously, but I could be wrong.

At least this means I probably am not crazy for noticing her skin yesterday, even if I was dumb
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 05 Feb 2014, 10:03
I know someone that's had chickenpox six times - twice while I've known him - so it doesn't give a guaranteed immunity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 05 Feb 2014, 10:15
Mellow out Marigold, mellow out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 05 Feb 2014, 10:35
I guess the Momo/Marigold companionship has been discussed before. Perhaps the best background information can be found here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996). Momo usually acts as mentor, boss, or facilitator, trying to improve Marigold's life. What is unclear, is how this companionship came to be. Marigold has possibly been mentally ill, and a robot companion would have been a recommendation from her psychiatrist.

The question then becomes if Momo was aware of Marigold's problems when they signed the companionship agreement. Do human and robot have a trial period before signing? They have obviously bonded, but does Momo sometimes regret? Does she stay because a breakup would be devastating to Marigold? Or is it her mission to take care of Marigold?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Feb 2014, 10:37
Mellow out Marigold, mellow out.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Melloyello2010.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 05 Feb 2014, 10:42
I got chicken pox for the first time at the age of 33. I'm 52 now, and that time is still the most miserable two weeks of my life, before OR since. And by the time I could go back to work, the scars were still so bright red and so prolific that people at work were afraid to come near me for quite a while. Definitely not fun to get it as an adult.  :-(

(I did have one week that was more miserable, when I got pneumonia last year, but since it was only for a week the chicken pox episode is still the most miserable two-week period.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 05 Feb 2014, 10:50
I guess the Momo/Marigold companionship has been discussed before. Perhaps the best background information can be found here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996). Momo usually acts as mentor, boss, or facilitator, trying to improve Marigold's life. What is unclear, is how this companionship came to be. Marigold has possibly been mentally ill, and a robot companion would have been a recommendation from her psychiatrist.

The question then becomes if Momo was aware of Marigold's problems when they signed the companionship agreement. Do human and robot have a trial period before signing? They have obviously bonded, but does Momo sometimes regret? Does she stay because a breakup would be devastating to Marigold? Or is it her mission to take care of Marigold?

I find this really interesting to consider even if an archive dig tells us that they did have a trial. Although even if there was, even if there's not a legal obligation there's probably a bit of an emotional obligation to keep going, if you know what I mean?

ETA- Like, what if you see someone's emotionally bad off and needs friends and has bonded onto you (an AI), and then you 'reject' them? They might not bother getting an AI or attempting to make a friend again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 05 Feb 2014, 12:56
I guess the Momo/Marigold companionship has been discussed before. Perhaps the best background information can be found here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996).
I find it very strange that Momo would be so insecure. It is not like her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Feb 2014, 14:10
The adoption agencies are supposed to check for a good fit before pairing off a human and a robot. Maybe this relationship meets Momo's needs.

It may also be that Momo accepts dealing with Marigold as part of her duty to model good human-AI relations.

She may simply like Marigold enough to accept Marigold's problems. She did say early on that Marigold was good to her, and that was before Marigold went into debt for a premium body for Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 05 Feb 2014, 19:30
I know someone that's had chickenpox six times - twice while I've known him - so it doesn't give a guaranteed immunity.
Wow, that's impressive. My older sister got chickenpox twice, she seems to have a slight immunity defect reguarding it. Unsurprisingly, it's been the first disease her son got, at a very early age, even though she breastfed him.
I got it as a kid, myself (from my sister), and I had shingles about ten years ago, and there's something I'd like to mention about shingles: IT HURTS! Like, sand tilefish venom level of pain.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Feb 2014, 20:12
I don't like thinking about chicken pox, because it makes my feet start to itch again.

I got it when I was 18-19 and working at Six Flags. I noticed one night before we were closing up that my feet were itching. When I got back to the dressing room, I noticed my back was itchy. I asked one of my co-workers if there was anything on my back. His response: "Get away from me! You have chicken pox!" I suspect some kid came to the park, was contagious, and with me never getting it as a little kid (I got measles instead - ugh), I got a full-blown case. My dad took me to the doctor that night, and I ended up passing out while they were drawing blood - because, back in the day before AIDS and needle paranoia, they could stick you several times to try and find a vein.  :-o

I do occasionally get concerned about shingles, but chicken pox seems to be a thing of the past here in Wisconsin (thankfully).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 05 Feb 2014, 20:14
I had chicken pox when I was little, but I have also taken the shingles shots. 


And, ah yes, Benadryl, the date drug. 

But it did clear up the hives.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Feb 2014, 20:48
Too bad Benadryl has that nasty side effect of causing drowsiness.

"yoUr SHoEs loOk nIce" = classic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 05 Feb 2014, 20:56
Dale's next line is "You mean these old things?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 05 Feb 2014, 21:39
Okay, dumb question that isn't implying anything: Is Momo considered a "competent witness" in a court of law?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 05 Feb 2014, 21:52
I know someone that's had chickenpox six times - twice while I've known him - so it doesn't give a guaranteed immunity.
Wow, that's impressive. My older sister got chickenpox twice, she seems to have a slight immunity defect reguarding it. Unsurprisingly, it's been the first disease her son got, at a very early age, even though she breastfed him.
I got it as a kid, myself (from my sister), and I had shingles about ten years ago, and there's something I'd like to mention about shingles: IT HURTS! Like, sand tilefish venom level of pain.

In my native Danish, shingles is called helvedesild. Litteral translation: hellfire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 05 Feb 2014, 22:54
Okay, dumb question that isn't implying anything: Is Momo considered a "competent witness" in a court of law?

AnthroPCs have equal civil rights to humans so they should be able to testify on an equal footing.

If they can deliberately edit their own memories there could be some real problems though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 05 Feb 2014, 22:54
Mellow out Marigold, mellow out.

Well... she's mellow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Feb 2014, 23:34
I know someone that's had chickenpox six times - twice while I've known him - so it doesn't give a guaranteed immunity.
Wow, that's impressive. My older sister got chickenpox twice, she seems to have a slight immunity defect reguarding it. Unsurprisingly, it's been the first disease her son got, at a very early age, even though she breastfed him.
I got it as a kid, myself (from my sister), and I had shingles about ten years ago, and there's something I'd like to mention about shingles: IT HURTS! Like, sand tilefish venom level of pain.

In my native Danish, shingles is called helvedesild. Litteral translation: hellfire.

Que a drunken demon stating "I've shingled you out for shome hellfire!"  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 06 Feb 2014, 00:36
I know someone that's had chickenpox six times - twice while I've known him - so it doesn't give a guaranteed immunity.
Wow, that's impressive. My older sister got chickenpox twice, she seems to have a slight immunity defect reguarding it. Unsurprisingly, it's been the first disease her son got, at a very early age, even though she breastfed him.
I got it as a kid, myself (from my sister), and I had shingles about ten years ago, and there's something I'd like to mention about shingles: IT HURTS! Like, sand tilefish venom level of pain.

In my native Danish, shingles is called helvedesild. Litteral translation: hellfire.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 06 Feb 2014, 00:53
Too bad Benadryl has that nasty side effect of causing drowsiness.
There are antihistamines specifically formulated to reduce that side effect. But they would not be as funny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Feb 2014, 01:08
Yes but "specially formulated" mostly means "with added caffeine" and I'm not sure Marigold really needs stimulants on top of everything else… 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Feb 2014, 01:15
>date drug

Reminds me of a friend who was stuck on an airplane next to a loud drunk. He wasn't the sort who gets pleasure being around loud drunks. When his fellow passenger wanted to know if what he'd heard about American women was true, my friend said absolutely, but that they are so demanding that anyone expecting to get together with one must take the "special pink American aphrodisiac" and with a kindly-looking smile offered the drunk some of his own stash of Benadryl.

Quiet flight thereafter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 06 Feb 2014, 01:48
Shingles is no worse than having a branding iron (or similar hot object) applied to the affected area.
Usually only minor nerve damage when the quiescent virus that colonises the nerve goes on a rampage.

Rarely, it hits the face and optic nerve. That's doubleplus ungood. A friend of mine is blind in one eye from that.

Herpes Zoster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes_zoster) though can be zonked with a not-so-new-antiviral drug, aciclovir (eg Zovirax). Apply within 24 hrs of first symptoms to stop nearly all the damage. After 24 hrs though the effect is more limited, though still useful up to 72 hrs after symptoms start.

It's very rare to get more than 3 recurrences. I've had 2, the second considerably less severe than the first. It was really interesting the second time, I could trace the nerve pathways and dendrites to the skin by the damage, very localised, almost like a welt from a lash.

Now getting back to Marigold...

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Stress is one of the known triggers of hives, an outbreak of raised, red spots (or welts) on the skin that often itch. Hives are usually indicative of an allergic reaction, but they can also occur as a result of sun or cold exposure, infections, excessive perspiration, and emotional stress. It is not known exactly why stress may precipitate an outbreak of hives, but it is likely related to the known effects of stress on the immune system. The medical term for hives is urticaria.
...
There are a number of ways to ease the symptoms of hives, including taking over-the-counter antihistamines...
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=79117

I was a bit nonplussed at the "Benadryl" comment. But this explains it:
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In the United States and Canada, Benadryl products contain the first-generation antihistamine diphenhydramine. In the United Kingdom, Benadryl products contain either the second-generation non-sedating antihistamine acrivastine (marketed as Benadryl Allergy Relief, with a suggested efficacy duration of eight hours) or the long acting antihistamine cetirizine (marketed as Benadryl One a Day Relief). Benadryl products are marketed in Australia and New Zealand by Johnson & Johnson Pacific. They are marketed as cough medicines and do not contain any antihistamine. Each 5 mL of Benadryl Chesty Cough & Nasal Congestion contains 100 mg of Guaifenesin (an expectorant) and 30 mg of pseudoephedrine hydrochloride as the active ingredients

So some UK "Benadryl One a Day Relief" is best, but Australian "Benadryl Chesty Cough & Nasal Congestion" would be useless, as well as containing pseudoephedrine hydrochloride, a restricted substance in both Australia and the US as it's a common precursor to Methamphetamine. The US version would not be as good as the UK one, but still effective... though possibly with some side effects.

UPDATE - just seen the comic. Ah. Yes. Side effects like that. Oopsie.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aldonius on 06 Feb 2014, 01:52
I know someone that's had chickenpox six times - twice while I've known him - so it doesn't give a guaranteed immunity.
Wow, that's impressive. My older sister got chickenpox twice, she seems to have a slight immunity defect reguarding it. Unsurprisingly, it's been the first disease her son got, at a very early age, even though she breastfed him.
I got it as a kid, myself (from my sister), and I had shingles about ten years ago, and there's something I'd like to mention about shingles: IT HURTS! Like, sand tilefish venom level of pain.

In my native Danish, shingles is called helvedesild. Litteral translation: hellfire.

Que a drunken demon stating "I've shingled you out for shome hellfire!"  :evil:

That would be a Bilingual Bonus (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BilingualBonus) (standard warning: TVTropes), then?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 06 Feb 2014, 01:55
Okay, dumb question that isn't implying anything: Is Momo considered a "competent witness" in a court of law?
Probably depends on the jurisdiction, if the QCverse is anything like this one. For example, Australia (which is otherwise a pretty civilised place), doesn't allow Intersex people to marry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 06 Feb 2014, 02:35
I stand corrected - something has gone wrong with the date already!

I was a bit confused too, all I could think of was Benadryl cold and flu remedy, and I didn't see how that would help with red spots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 06 Feb 2014, 02:42
Yes but "specially formulated" mostly means "with added caffeine" and I'm not sure Marigold really needs stimulants on top of everything else…

No, none of the non-drowsy antihistamines I'm aware of have any caffeine in them. However, the general trade-off is that the less drowsy-making it is, the less it helps your allergies. Diphenhydramine (Benadryl in the US) is still the gold standard in hospitals if you're having a life-threatening allergic reaction, according to my wife the nurse, but it is pretty much the most drowsifying.

However, everyone's biochemistry is a little different, so none of this is carved in stone. Antihistamines that make one person drowsy can make someone else much less drowsy, and one that doesn't help one person's allergies much can be great for someone else. I never felt drowsy after taking chlorpheniramine (US brand name: Chlor-Trimeton) until I had to take one during a nice dinner, during which I also had a glass of wine. One glass of wine doesn't normally make me drowsy either, but the two of them together really hit me hard. So ask an allergist for a recommendation for your needs, but experiment with others as well until you find what works best for you.

For a skin reaction like hives, I would have thought topical Benadryl would be better -- a Benadryl (diphenhydramine) creme that you rub on your skin instead of taking orally. Still clears up the skin problem, but doesn't make the rest of you drowsy. I have no personal experience with hives, however, so I can't say for certain whether topical or oral antihistamines would clear up the hives more quickly.

I don't know why stimulants would be a problem for Marigold; I'd say she could use some strong coffee right now. Hmm, I wonder where you could get any of that in the neighborhood?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 06 Feb 2014, 03:20
Okay, dumb question that isn't implying anything: Is Momo considered a "competent witness" in a court of law?
Probably depends on the jurisdiction, if the QCverse is anything like this one. For example, Australia (which is otherwise a pretty civilised place), doesn't allow Intersex people to marry.

 :psyduck:
Really? Colour me shocked!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Feb 2014, 03:27
Yes but "specially formulated" mostly means "with added caffeine" and I'm not sure Marigold really needs stimulants on top of everything else…

No, none of the non-drowsy antihistamines I'm aware of have any caffeine in them. However, the general trade-off is that the less drowsy-making it is, the less it helps your allergies. Diphenhydramine (Benadryl in the US) is still the gold standard in hospitals if you're having a life-threatening allergic reaction, according to my wife the nurse, but it is pretty much the most drowsifying.

However, everyone's biochemistry is a little different, so none of this is carved in stone. Antihistamines that make one person drowsy can make someone else much less drowsy, and one that doesn't help one person's allergies much can be great for someone else. I never felt drowsy after taking chlorpheniramine (US brand name: Chlor-Trimeton) until I had to take one during a nice dinner, during which I also had a glass of wine. One glass of wine doesn't normally make me drowsy either, but the two of them together really hit me hard. So ask an allergist for a recommendation for your needs, but experiment with others as well until you find what works best for you.

For a skin reaction like hives, I would have thought topical Benadryl would be better -- a Benadryl (diphenhydramine) creme that you rub on your skin instead of taking orally. Still clears up the skin problem, but doesn't make the rest of you drowsy. I have no personal experience with hives, however, so I can't say for certain whether topical or oral antihistamines would clear up the hives more quickly.

I don't know why stimulants would be a problem for Marigold; I'd say she could use some strong coffee right now. Hmm, I wonder where you could get any of that in the neighborhood?
Ah, yes, it seems I was thinking of "non-drowsy" cold&flu relief pills.
On the other topic, stimulants can exaggerate stress responses in a lot of people and since Mari's hives are a stress response….
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 06 Feb 2014, 03:28
For making me drowsy, diphenhydramine ain't got nothing on citirizine, especially if I haven't been taking it on a regular basis. But citirizine's also pretty much the most effective for me, so...

As for antihistamine + caffeine, the closest thing I'm aware of is dimenhydrinate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimenhydrinate), a nausea & motion sickness drug sold as Dramamine in the US. That's basically a combination of diphenhydramine and theophylline, which is pretty similar to caffeine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 06 Feb 2014, 06:24
I don't recall such severe drowsification from benadryl. It was easier to get to sleep, to be sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 06 Feb 2014, 07:31
I don't recall such severe drowsification from benadryl. It was easier to get to sleep, to be sure.
Everybody's biology is different. For example, for some weird reason, alcohol actually inhibits sleep for me. Has most of the other effects, but seriously, past the fifth pint I'm not sleeping 'til tomorrow night.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nuclear_Nipple_Tester on 06 Feb 2014, 07:37
^  I drink coffee to calm down when angry.    Not sure why.   Someone speculated it isn't the coffee so much as the ritual of making it that makes me relax.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 06 Feb 2014, 08:23
Your mileage may vary. Benadryl doesn't exactly put me to sleep, but it does turn me into a zombie for a while. Braaaaiiiinnnnssss....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 06 Feb 2014, 08:24
US Benadryl knocks me the heck out. I get loopy and sleepy. Caffeinating me in that condition will render me wide awake and loopy.

I'm 5'11" 260 lb. Most other OTC drugs affect me less than the standard dose, but diphenhydramine is my off button. It just depends on how sensitive you are to a given drug, not necessarily your size.

Rituals are more important than most people realize.

I'd guess in a court of law that Momo would be presented as a witness and the jury would get to decide based on her testimony and cross-examination how credible she seems. There are apparently people in the QCverse that are biased against AIs, so if they were picked for the jury, counsel would have to consider whether they'd want to include her testimony. That said, any competent attorney would check during voir dire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voir_dire) whether such a bias exists and ask the judge to exclude that person from the jury for cause.

The presumes a lot about similarities between realiverse and QCverse... we've already seen differences (i.e. Robot Jail, the whole companion/contract thing). I'm curious whether a contracted AI companion could be forced to testify against their human and vice versa... lots of interesting (to me) stuff that Jeph could mine if he ever deemed it important to telling the QC story.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 06 Feb 2014, 08:40
Alcohol disrupts sleep for everyone - it might make you more likely to pass out, but the quality of the sleep is lower because it prevents REM sleep (plus it supresses the production of anti-diuretic hormone, meaning you're more likely to be woken by a full bladder). I've often wondered why it is that people criticise drinking during the day, when it seems to me it'd make more sense to drink on Saturday morning rather than Friday night.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 Feb 2014, 09:14
^  I drink coffee to calm down when angry.    Not sure why.   Someone speculated it isn't the coffee so much as the ritual of making it that makes me relax.

My partner needs stimulants to focus, and it is biological, not a past addiction or anything. It could be something like that for you too, maybe? It could also be that you associate coffee with good things
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 06 Feb 2014, 09:25
Of course, many references and local slang are not understood (or have different meanings) to non-Americans. I had no idea what Benadryl was. We probably have something similar, but with a different brand name. I do not suggest Jeph should think too much about these things (his main audience is probably American), but keep in mind that QC is supposed to be in a different universe. Therefore, all references ought to be alien, but I guess that would not be good either  :-D

EDIT: in today's strip, Momo correctly calls it "antihistamine". This is a term which is understood globally. In QC, they would probably use "Sleepy O's" as brand name  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 06 Feb 2014, 09:31
I used antihistamines for awhile and while they didn't make me sleepy they eventually made my eyes really dry, too dry to wear contacts. Had to stop since my prescriptions so strong that glasses aren't as good. And they have that coke bottle thing going on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nuclear_Nipple_Tester on 06 Feb 2014, 09:52
Of course, many references and local slang are not understood (or have different meanings) to non-Americans. I had no idea what Benadryl was. We probably have something similar, but with a different brand name. I do not suggest Jeph should think too much about these things (his main audience is probably American), but keep in mind that QC is supposed to be in a different universe. Therefore, all references ought to be alien, but I guess that would not be good either  :-D

EDIT: in today's strip, Momo correctly calls it "antihistamine". This is a term which is understood globally. In QC, they would probably use "Sleepy O's" as brand name  :lol:

LOL Antihistamine
No More Sniffles Yay
OHNO PHLEGM   

And so on.   Personally I would buy No More Sniffles YAY brand.    It's less likely to cause hilarious date-related shenanigans than LOL Antihistamine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 06 Feb 2014, 10:47
^  I drink coffee to calm down when angry.    Not sure why.   Someone speculated it isn't the coffee so much as the ritual of making it that makes me relax.
Neurochemistry often has seemingly paradox effects. For people with "normal" dopamine levels, Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is a stimulans, similar to Cocaine (both are Dopamine-Reuptake-Inhibitors, among other effects). For people with low dopamine levels (i.e. ADHD) it allows them to calm down and focus. Perhaps there's a similar thing at work for caffeine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Nuclear_Nipple_Tester on 06 Feb 2014, 10:58
^  I drink coffee to calm down when angry.    Not sure why.   Someone speculated it isn't the coffee so much as the ritual of making it that makes me relax.
Neurochemistry often has seemingly paradox effects. For people with "normal" dopamine levels, Methylphenidate (Ritalin) is a stimulans, similar to Cocaine (both are Dopamine-Reuptake-Inhibitors, among other effects). For people with low dopamine levels (i.e. ADHD) it allows them to calm down and focus. Perhaps there's a similar thing at work for caffeine.

You may be on to something -- I do have ADHD.   I was diagnosed when I was much younger and... ...  ... SQUIRREL!     :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Feb 2014, 12:53
Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is used by some doctors to help assist with sleeplessness (it's the "added ingredient" in Tylenol PM and other OTC pain meds that promote sleep).

Topical Benadryl cream probably would have worked better for Marbear, but it might not have been as fast acting.

On the whole, this reminds me of the wedding scene in Sixteen Candles, where the older sister took too many muscle relaxants before the ceremony.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 06 Feb 2014, 13:21
I don't think Mari-bear's gonna be very happy with herself when she wakes up tomorrow and Momo tells her, or she remembers what happened.

Hilarity and angst ensue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Fenriswolf on 06 Feb 2014, 13:55
Quote
So some UK "Benadryl One a Day Relief" is best, but Australian "Benadryl Chesty Cough & Nasal Congestion" would be useless, as well as containing pseudoephedrine hydrochloride, a restricted substance in both Australia and the US as it's a common precursor to Methamphetamine. The US version would not be as good as the UK one, but still effective... though possibly with some side effects.
Much to my intense irritation, cold and flu rememdies no longer have pseudoephedrine in them in NZ. As if meth manufacturers can't find alternatives. Grrr. It is my pet hate, because psudoephedrine + vitamin C was my approach to being sick and functioning. Phenylephedrine (replacement) is totally useless. *sulk*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 Feb 2014, 14:24
I don't think Mari-bear's gonna be very happy with herself when she wakes up tomorrow and Momo tells her, or she remembers what happened.

Hilarity and angst ensue.

And so she get hives again, and takes benadryl again...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: brew on 06 Feb 2014, 15:34

RE: past comics
These prove for me what I thought about the new comic format: It's liable to have less content per comic. The characters are now often drawn way more close-up (bigger) than before and the font has doubled in size, so Jeph has more or less halved the content by making the single panels larger.

I haven't noticed a difference in content level, but especially ever since the bigger font was used in 2628, it feels way too zoomed-in. I find it disorienting to read. The increase in comic size (starting at 2600) also has something to do with it. It feels better if I zoom out to 75%, but then the text is fuzzy.

I wonder what size monitor, resolution, and browser window size Jeph uses, because I doubt it's similar to mine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 06 Feb 2014, 16:50
I don't recall such severe drowsification from benadryl. It was easier to get to sleep, to be sure.

When did we start correlating the D&D Drow to sleep?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Penquin47 on 06 Feb 2014, 16:56
I don't recall such severe drowsification from benadryl. It was easier to get to sleep, to be sure.

When did we start correlating the D&D Drow to sleep?

Isn't sleep one of the spell-like abilities they can use (in 3.5 anyway)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 06 Feb 2014, 17:19
chickenpox in my mid twenties.
How on earth did you get it that late?

Late response.  I'm not entirely sure.  I was exposed to it as a kid but never got it.  Then later I met up with an ex-girlfriend years after we broke up (we were friends then) and she brought her kids (she'd married) along when we went to lunch to catch up and the next day I was riddled with disease.  Then her kids got it.  So it was either someone at the restaurant, her kids had it but hadn't shown symptoms or I had it but hadn't shown symptoms.  Since she had it as a kid she didn't bat an eye.

Anyway, it's about the only thing I have in common with Mick Jones from The Clash/Big Audio Dynamite since he also got Chickenpox in his twenties.  I do play guitar but it hasn't amounted to much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 06 Feb 2014, 19:36
Ah yes, a sleeping date, with tea.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Penquin47 on 06 Feb 2014, 19:41
My dad is a medical anomaly in having had shingles without ever having chicken pox.  The only thing he can figure out is that his siblings all had it when he was about six months old, so he got exposed then but never developed symptoms.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Feb 2014, 19:46
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangte.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Feb 2014, 19:53
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangte.

Win, right here. :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 06 Feb 2014, 20:04
"Marigold, that is not how you pronounce Dale's name!"

....is what I got on here to say, but Method totally wins this one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Feb 2014, 20:09
Win, right here. :D
Method totally wins this one.
Thank you kindly :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 06 Feb 2014, 20:20
If they wind up sleeping together on the first date, it will just be sleeping, not a euphemism.   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Feb 2014, 20:25
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangte.
I feel this is appropriate:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Feb 2014, 20:29
Holy crap I've been sigquoted :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Feb 2014, 20:39
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaangte.
I feel this is appropriate:
(click to show/hide)
I'm pretty sure this doesn't make any sense (and I don't have the right font installed), but...
(click to show/hide)

edit -- and Inkscape exported it at the wrong size...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Feb 2014, 20:42
Holy crap I've been sigquoted :parrot:
Well, you managed to make me laugh for a good two minutes straight. You deserve it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 06 Feb 2014, 20:47
I love panel 2 and have been panel 3.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Feb 2014, 21:06
Holy crap I've been sigquoted :parrot:
Well, you managed to make me laugh for a good two minutes straight. You deserve it.
Good to hear! And thanks :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 06 Feb 2014, 21:31
I'm pretty sure this doesn't make any sense (and I don't have the right font installed), but...

(Psst: Blambot Casual.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Feb 2014, 21:33
Yeah, I only have Blambot Pro. Blambot Casual would have been an extra $30.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 06 Feb 2014, 21:37
I have sometimes joked that energy level is actually an unsigned integer, and thus giving stimulants to those who are already hyperactive causes it to roll over and wrap around to the bottom.
(I doubt this is the actual biological mechanism.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Feb 2014, 21:40
I have to admit that at first I read "energy level" in your post to mean what it does in physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_level), in which case giving them stimulants while they're already excited would ionize them. It's okay, though, plasmas are fun.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 06 Feb 2014, 21:47
I don't recall such severe drowsification from benadryl. It was easier to get to sleep, to be sure.

As others noted, different people react to it differently. For instance, if somebody slipped me a benadryl I likely wouldn't even notice.

On my one and only ER trip I got a straight IV of benadryl to stop a reaction and the doc and nurses fully expected me to be KO'd within a couple of minutes. All it did was make me cold enough to start uncontrollably shivering until they stacked heated blankets on me. And even then, all warm and cozy under three blankets with a line of benny in the arm, didn't even feel tired.

*shrugs*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 06 Feb 2014, 22:27
Yeah, I only have Blambot Pro. Blambot Casual would have been an extra $30.
According to this http://fonts.by/en/pages/podrobno.php?table=accident_ornamental&id=763 it is free
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 07 Feb 2014, 00:19
This may lead to their date consisting of sitting together on the couch, with Dale freaking out about how far he may go to make Marigold feel well.

I can imagine hundreds of worse dates scenarios.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Feb 2014, 00:43
Wil and Penelope's for example.

Poor Marigold. She's not the type to take this in stride and then look back and laugh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 07 Feb 2014, 02:24
You have to give Marbear points for persistence, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 07 Feb 2014, 03:39
Poor Marigold. She's not the type to take this in stride and then look back and laugh.

That's my main concern, too. Mind you, these two might enjoy a cozy evening with tea and anime more than a dinner date at a fancy restaurant. Let's wait and see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 07 Feb 2014, 04:11
This may lead to their date consisting of sitting together on the couch, with Dale freaking out about how far he may go to make Marigold feel well.

I can imagine hundreds of worse dates scenarios.
Waking up next to someone you like - fully clothed, on a couch - is a really nice feeling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 07 Feb 2014, 06:00
It's a good thing that Dale is the chillest dude ever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Feb 2014, 06:37
Yeah, I only have Blambot Pro. Blambot Casual would have been an extra $30.
According to this http://fonts.by/en/pages/podrobno.php?table=accident_ornamental&id=763 it is free
It's not free from Blambot's site (http://www.blambot.com/font_bbcasual.shtml), which makes me a bit suspicious of that site...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 07 Feb 2014, 07:33
I don't recall such severe drowsification from benadryl. It was easier to get to sleep, to be sure.

When did we start correlating the D&D Drow to sleep?

Isn't sleep one of the spell-like abilities they can use (in 3.5 anyway)?

Really ? Makes no sense since they are invulnerable to sleep themselves (just like elves).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 07 Feb 2014, 12:10
Poor Marigold
Poor Dale

Business as usual for Momo I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 07 Feb 2014, 13:24
I am curious if it is intentional that

NO
DATE

has no punctuation. At first I read it as her grabbing him because the idea of no date happening was so heart breaking, but after finishing the comic I think it's that she's saying "NO, DATE!" to his suggestion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 07 Feb 2014, 13:56
I think the comma is implied by the large amount of whitespace between "NO" and "DATE".

So let's get on with the
DAAAAAAATE  :popcorn:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Feb 2014, 13:58
I thought the large gap was to emphasize both words on their own, that a comma wouldn't suffice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Emperor Norton on 07 Feb 2014, 14:03
I see them as two independent thoughts, very rudimentary sentences, no comma at all.

No

Date

Very "So tired I talk like a caveman".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 07 Feb 2014, 17:49
I see them as two independent thoughts, very rudimentary sentences, no comma at all.

No

Date

Very "So tired I talk like a caveman".

Yeah, my third punctuation set would have been "No! Date!" but that's the same intent as with a comma
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 07 Feb 2014, 22:03
Thank you, Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 09 Feb 2014, 07:36
Waking up next to someone you like - fully clothed, on a couch - is a really nice feeling.
If Jeph feels like being lazy, I, for one, would be totally okay with monday's comic being four panels of Dale and Marigold cuddling on the couch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 Feb 2014, 12:31
Yadda Yadda Yadda


Mark and whatshername at CoD ........ 2 (2.7%)
The Tai Inquisition ........ 25 (33.8%)
A week of Pintsize and Winslow ........ 0 (0%)
Clairepoclypse ........ 15 (20.3%)
Swing Girl at CoD ........ 5 (6.8%)
Marten and Steve go buy Cereal ........ 7 (9.5%)
Butts ........ 7 (9.5%)Purple Monkey Dishwasher ........ 2 (2.7%)
Jeph surprises us ........ 11 (14.9%)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 10 Feb 2014, 09:05
Waking up next to someone you like - fully clothed, on a couch - is a really nice feeling.
If Jeph feels like being lazy, I, for one, would be totally okay with monday's comic being four panels of Dale and Marigold cuddling on the couch.

Intended date or not, I seriously doubt they're at the cuddling stage of their relationship yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2631-2635 (Feb 03 - 07 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
Post by: Mordhaus on 13 Feb 2014, 15:56
Nobody expects The Tai Inquisition!