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Title: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: Kugai on 07 Apr 2014, 20:55
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/star-trek-actress-lends-her-gravitas-to-film-promoting-idea-that-sun-revolves-around-earth/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/07/star-trek-actress-lends-her-gravitas-to-film-promoting-idea-that-sun-revolves-around-earth/)
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: J on 07 Apr 2014, 21:54
wut.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: mustang6172 on 07 Apr 2014, 22:06
As the kids used to say:  ROFLMAO

I like a good demonstration of mental gymnastics.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Apr 2014, 01:42
A Holocaust-denier as well.  Proof that there are still fools in the world, I guess.

Quote from: That article
About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it.

Can that really be true?
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: J on 08 Apr 2014, 03:09
i want to believe that that is a result from a poorly conducted or mis-interpreted survey.


or maybe i just need to believe that
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: Schmee on 08 Apr 2014, 03:38
Quote from: That article
About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it.
Can that really be true?
I doubt it. The survey question was likely biased, or just worded oddly. Maybe I'm optimistic, maybe I'm overestimating Americans, but 25% is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: LTK on 08 Apr 2014, 04:30
The survey in question is the National Science Board’s Science and Engineering Indicators 2014, and it's also reported on here (http://www.iflscience.com/scientific-knoweldge-trails-support-0), so you can poke around and judge for yourself.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Apr 2014, 05:12
If someone said to me "Quick! Which is larger, an electron or an atom?" I'd easily have a 1 in 4 chance of giving the wrong answer out of confusion. Equally, the same with "Does the sun go round the earth?". It's more worrying when people know what science says but persist in disbelieving it because it's incompatible with what they want to be true (what my dad calls belief-based facts; he kept going on about it when Redball visited, sorry about that Bob...).
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Apr 2014, 13:30
You can get at least 10% of people to agree with just about any survey question, no matter how ridiculous. I seem to remember a survey a couple years ago where people gave a higher approval rating to herpes than to the U.S. Congress. For every 10 people they asked, one basically said "sure, herpes sounds like a good idea"...
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: Kugai on 08 Apr 2014, 16:53
Does it mean I'm a cynic on the mentality of most Americans that I was more shocked by the fact that Kate Mulgrew, of all people,  lent her name to this?

I mean, come on!!!  A paycheck's a paycheck, but some paychecks aren't worth the Latinum.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: mustang6172 on 08 Apr 2014, 18:19
Quote from: That article
About one in four Americans believe in geocentrism, which places the Earth at the center of the universe and the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it.
Can that really be true?
I doubt it. The survey question was likely biased, or just worded oddly. Maybe I'm optimistic, maybe I'm overestimating Americans, but 25% is ridiculous.

It's roughly on par with the percentage of Americans who think 9/11 was an inside job.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: Kugai on 08 Apr 2014, 20:09
Finally, a rebutle from Ms Mulgrew herself

Kate Mulgrew has said she was misled about the entire dumbass Documentary... She sold her voice.... Not her belief... I for one am going to take her word for it..."I understand there has been some controversy about my participation in a documentary called THE PRINCIPLE. Let me assure everyone that I completely agree with the eminent physicist Lawrence Krauss, who was himself misrepresented in the film, and who has written a succinct rebuttal in SLATE. I am not a geocentrist, nor am I in any way a proponent of geocentrism. More importantly, I do not subscribe to anything Robert Sungenis has written regarding science and history and, had I known of his involvement, would most certainly have avoided this documentary. I was a voice for hire, and a misinformed one, at that. I apologize for any confusion that my voice on this trailer may have caused. Kate Mulgrew"


Thank Valen!  I was beginning to think Janeway had slipped a few gears here.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: Aimless on 09 Apr 2014, 15:03
I'd take that survery finding with a large pinch of salt unless you believe it's likely that 25% of surveyed US citizens and 34% of surveyed Europeans really believe that the sun goes around the earth rather than just being confused.
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: KOK on 18 Jun 2014, 06:03
http://www.break.com/video/the-majority-of-french-people-are-dumb-335023
Title: Re: Oh GRUD no!
Post by: J on 18 Jun 2014, 07:21
British public wrong about nearly everything, survey shows  (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-public-wrong-about-nearly-everything-survey-shows-8697821.html)