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Title: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 15 Jun 2014, 12:50
Another week, more hijinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 15 Jun 2014, 14:51
We haven't seen May and Momo interact since May's return to the strip. If May does end up going an activist route because of her treatment during her job hunt, the two of them could be natural allies and complement each other quite well; Momo seems well-versed in AI law and civil rights, with a natural tact that May lacks, while May is more assertive and may have a level of street smarts that Momo doesn't have. It could temper May's rough edges while giving Momo more confidence to assert herself. That, I think, is where things could get interesting.

On one hand, I'm not sure that Jeph's looking to take the strip in a direction that would be simultaneously that involved and a bit heavy; on the other, it'd lend some complexity to the plot, and add a bit of believeability given that even a town as chill as the fictional Northampton is likely to have some people who haven't yet gotten with the program, same as everywhere else.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 15 Jun 2014, 16:14
Average patreon pledge: $3.22/month; number of average pledges remaining to hit $10,000 goal: 738.

I do want to find out what really happened to Sara (yes, Jeph misspelled her name on the Patreon page...).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2014, 20:21
Quote from: Job application
I am over 18 years of age or an AI of equivalent maturity as determined by Turing-Diaz Questionaire [sic] 7B

And dang, he does misspell Sara. Sarah and Sara may be pronounced the same, but you don't want either of them catching you spelling their name the other way!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mmeaninglessnamee on 15 Jun 2014, 20:45
What I was hoping the poll would be about is what kind of job the 4th application was for.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2014, 20:50
The poll was probably up before the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Jun 2014, 21:14
Head shop?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Truec on 15 Jun 2014, 21:20
I once asked a guy who had been convicted and was job hunting after he got out what happens when you check the yes box.  Apparently they just ask you some questions during the interview about what you did as part of determining your character, if they bother to mention it at all, and a lot of employers apparently never even bring it up.

Of course, May would need to explain herself about embezzling millions of dollars, so she may have difficulties if anybody does ask.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Jun 2014, 21:23
It's probably a lot worse if you don't disclose it on the application and they find out later.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 15 Jun 2014, 22:12
It's probably a lot worse if you don't disclose it on the application and they find out later.
Yeah, I had a friend who got really drunk and decided to solve the world's problems by trying to burn down the courthouse and a church.

Later he got a job at a restaurant (I'm guessing not checking the box)...until the fire marshal came in one day as a customer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 15 Jun 2014, 23:23
Welcome to the wonderful world of the job hunt May.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lummer on 16 Jun 2014, 01:34
We haven't seen May and Momo interact since May's return to the strip. If May does end up going an activist route because of her treatment during her job hunt, the two of them could be natural allies and complement each other quite well; Momo seems well-versed in AI law and civil rights, with a natural tact that May lacks, while May is more assertive and may have a level of street smarts that Momo doesn't have. It could temper May's rough edges while giving Momo more confidence to assert herself. That, I think, is where things could get interesting.

On one hand, I'm not sure that Jeph's looking to take the strip in a direction that would be simultaneously that involved and a bit heavy; on the other, it'd lend some complexity to the plot, and add a bit of believeability given that even a town as chill as the fictional Northampton is likely to have some people who haven't yet gotten with the program, same as everywhere else.

Just a thought.

I would love to see that. I really like the way the whole discrimination thing is handled so elegantly through this metaphorical framework. It could really add a lot of depth to the story.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 16 Jun 2014, 02:13
Heavy.

And yes, an issue worth raising. Of course if you really want a Scarlet Letter, see those kids who were convicted at age 15 for having oral sex with a partner of the same age. In many places, that puts them on a list of sex offenders for life. Not allowed near a school, can't live within a mile of a bus stop, stuff like that.

But having a felony conviction - good luck finding a job. Maybe it's worse in places where they don't hand those out as freely as they do in the US, but I imagine it's bad enough.

Those who screwed up once - or were wrongly convicted - need some assistance. Those where it's a habit need "re-education" of some kind. Some, probably most, are products of their environment, and may be salvageable if treated as people. Others aren't.

Dumping someone without assistance immediately after jailtime must come pretty close to being the least useful thing to do under any circumstances.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 16 Jun 2014, 02:41
Dumping someone without assistance immediately after jailtime must come pretty close to being the least useful thing to do under any circumstances.
Unless you're a member of the prison industry who wants to encourage recidivism.... At least May has a parole officer, which is more than those released after mandatory "no-parole" sentences do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 16 Jun 2014, 03:21
The strip is based in Massa......Massacult......Massachusetts, right? JJ might've wanted to do a little research first.... (http://www.legalmomentum.org/sites/default/files/reports/answeringcrquestions.pdf)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Jun 2014, 04:10
Quote from: your link
However, some employers may ask you this anyway. The employer may not know that this is an illegal question.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 16 Jun 2014, 04:31
The strip is based in Massa......Massacult......Massachusetts, right? JJ might've wanted to do a little research first.... (http://www.legalmomentum.org/sites/default/files/reports/answeringcrquestions.pdf)

I'm not sure I see the issue, it's illegal to ask about arrests, but she's being asked about convictions. Unless I missed something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Jun 2014, 04:45
Cap'n Fish is correct. May is being asked about convictions, which is perfectly legal. Please see points 1 and 3. Further see point 6. Neither of those questions will stop your employer from running a criminal background check. Usually that question on an application gives an applicant some space to explain their conviction and the circumstances behind it so the interviewer can ask more questions, more or less an opportunity for the applicant to come in above board and honest. She can lie if she wants, but it will show up on the background check, and that might be more damaging then the crime itself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 16 Jun 2014, 04:50
I want to meet her parole officer... What's the over/under on whether they're AI or human?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 16 Jun 2014, 05:12
For interest (though not relevant here), note that in the UK many types of conviction are considered "spent" after a period, and no longer need to be disclosed in many circumstances even on request.  The intervals vary (https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/advice/planning/Pages/convictions.aspx) according to the type of conviction, and for some jobs disclosure is always required.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Premos on 16 Jun 2014, 06:38
The strip is based in Massa......Massacult......Massachusetts, right? JJ might've wanted to do a little research first.... (http://www.legalmomentum.org/sites/default/files/reports/answeringcrquestions.pdf)

I'm not sure I see the issue, it's illegal to ask about arrests, but she's being asked about convictions. Unless I missed something.
cesariojpn is right, though his link has nothing to do with the actual Massachusetts law. In 2010, Massachusetts legislated a "ban the box" provision that prohibits employers from asking about criminal history on an initial job application. They may legally ask for criminal history later in the application process and run background checks, but they may not do so on your standard first paper application.

http://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/massachusetts-becomes-second-state-ban-box-all-employment-applications

All of those applications May has picked up are definitely illegal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 16 Jun 2014, 07:22
I once asked a guy who had been convicted and was job hunting after he got out what happens when you check the yes box.  Apparently they just ask you some questions during the interview about what you did as part of determining your character, if they bother to mention it at all, and a lot of employers apparently never even bring it up.

This really depends on the job.

I work in education so you can bet your ass they check your record with the bureau.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 16 Jun 2014, 11:02
I'm sure that in education and probably law enforcement, among other jobs, checking yes to the conviction question is an immediate disqualification for the job. Other employers will see the yes box checked and immediately trash the application without bothering to ask questions.

And May was convicted for embezzlement. That's going to make many employers, especially in retail and other cash-heavy businesses, think twice about hiring her. Employee theft is a major problem in many businesses already.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2014, 14:43
I figured cash-heavy businesses would be less of a worry, since her theft was electronic-based.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Jun 2014, 15:20
Theft is theft.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2014, 15:26
What a useless statement. She's not likely to grab a bunch of cash and run if there are cameras on her. Then again, the employers will probably use your logic, so maybe it's not so useless after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 16 Jun 2014, 15:55
It's not so much the mechanics of the theft as the mentality behind it that employers may be worried about. As in they may be worried that someone already convicted of theft may be more inclined to do it again if tempted.

And yes, I know how much that kind of suspicion toward someone trying to go straight really sucks. But many people think once an ex-con...doesn't help that so many ex-cons are repeat offenders. And few law-abiding people ever bother to wonder why.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 16 Jun 2014, 15:56
See, what a lot of people don't seem to realise is that theft by deception and theft by taking stuff are psychologically very different and, while there is some overlap, you quite often find that persons predisposed to one will reject outright the other, to the point of denying the commonalities between them. Something about the tangibility of the goods taken vs empathy for trauma caused IIRC.

Anyway, the point is that I don't reckon May to be the sort to just walk out of a shop with physical goods unpaid for, or folding cash unearned. I wouldn't let her anywhere near my account books though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 16 Jun 2014, 16:08
But many people think once an ex-con...doesn't help that so many ex-cons are repeat offenders. And few law-abiding people ever bother to wonder why.
One of the reasons for recidivism is precisely that people won't employ ex-cons. It is a vicious spiral.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 16 Jun 2014, 16:32
Down here, if you have a conviction for a minor offence, say burglary, minor assault or things like that, you can have your record expunged after a set number of years IF you have no further convictions once you are released and/or discharged - I think it's seven years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 16 Jun 2014, 17:45
cesariojpn is right, though his link has nothing to do with the actual Massachusetts law. In 2010, Massachusetts legislated a "ban the box" provision that prohibits employers from asking about criminal history on an initial job application. They may legally ask for criminal history later in the application process and run background checks, but they may not do so on your standard first paper application.

http://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/massachusetts-becomes-second-state-ban-box-all-employment-applications

All of those applications May has picked up are definitely illegal.

Whoa, seriously?

...I just realized how long it's been since I've "properly" applied for a job...

Back then, the standard question was "have you ever been convicted of a felony, or a misdemeanor within the past five years (caveat legalese blah blah blah)?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 16 Jun 2014, 17:57
Company I used to work at would hire ex-cons for all the wrong reasons.   See hiring "that sort" brings a tax break.   Just hiring them -- you don't have to retain them.

Company I am at now hires them,  gives them a set of work skills (either basic metalwork or basic woodwork) and either becomes a career for them, or they move on to something "better."   Pay here isn't that great,  but there are other intangible attitude-things that make people stay.   Things like actually being treated a person and not a prison record.  *nod* 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 16 Jun 2014, 19:20
It could be worse Claire. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1293)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Jun 2014, 19:41
It's no ordinary rabbit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 16 Jun 2014, 20:29
That's a rabbit you share your Trix with.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 16 Jun 2014, 22:50
Happy birthday Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Jun 2014, 22:55
Does this mean that Claire is going down the rabbit hole to Wonderland?

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 17 Jun 2014, 01:47
...

Is Jephs birthday on Jun 16 or Jun 17 ?!?

Because we have Jun 17 today, but his entry says "Jun 16" ... ?

I'll assume Jun 17.

Happy birthday, Jeph !






[...] see those kids who were convicted at age 15 for having oral sex with a partner of the same age. In many places, that puts them on a list of sex offenders for life. Not allowed near a school, can't live within a mile of a bus stop, stuff like that.
Uh-hu. Replace "In many places" with "In the USA" and even then I would assume bible belt.

AFAICS my country, germany, doesnt have "sex offender" lists in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rincewind on 17 Jun 2014, 03:06
Rabbit Of Unusual Size?   :-o

Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 17 Jun 2014, 04:02
Happy Birthday Jeph.

Planning on rabbit stew tonight?


Questions, comments, queries , problems, bitches, rude gestures and/or remarks
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Jun 2014, 04:07
[...] see those kids who were convicted at age 15 for having oral sex with a partner of the same age. In many places, that puts them on a list of sex offenders for life. Not allowed near a school, can't live within a mile of a bus stop, stuff like that.
Uh-hu. Replace "In many places" with "In the USA" and even then I would assume bible belt.

AFAICS my country, Germany, doesn't have "sex offender" lists in the first place.

Many places is appropriate. The United States (every state more or less, not the Bible belt), consent laws work oddly here when it comes to the concept of statutory rape. I know most Commonwealth nations and the U.K.  have sex offender registries for pedophiles and the like but I'm not sure if their statutory rape laws work similarly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 04:09
Some states are more sensible, if I recall. That is, under a certain age is statutory rape, but only if the partners are more than a number of years (I think two or three?) apart. So if they're both 15, they can't get arrested for it...they better not take any pictures/videos though, because that can still get them brought up on child pornography. (Pretty sure teenagers have been convicted for sharing naked photos of themselves.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Jun 2014, 05:04
Those are Romeo and Juliet laws, and yes to the latter. Pr0n is Pr0n I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 17 Jun 2014, 05:21
Here we do not have statuary rape. Sex with a minor is a crime, but it is entirely different from rape. E.g. a woman can commit this crime against a male. This is not the case with rape.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Jun 2014, 06:34
Women can definitely rape men... and while women who commit statutory seem to get lighter sentencing in many places a female committing statutory rape with a minor is definitely a crime.

It's considered rape because the adult is taking advantage of their position on the minor, and they (the minor) cannot legally consent in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 17 Jun 2014, 10:20
In the UK, women (or more accurately, people with vaginas) cannot commit rape - the offence specifies that it involves penile penetration. The equivalent offence of non-consensual sex carries the same maximum penalties but not the same name.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 17 Jun 2014, 10:55
Danish law defines rape as an act commited by a man against a woman. There is a clause that says that in cases like those in clause this, that or the other where people of the same sex are involved, similar rules are used. So a woman can rape a woman, but whatever she does to a man, it is not rape. The rules for sex with a minor are entirely distinct from this, and gender neutral.

There is no Romeo and Juliet law as such, but the criminal code applies only to people over 15 years of age, which is also the age of consent, so there is no age where two kids would both be commiting a crime by having sex with each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Jun 2014, 12:46
Your various nation's judicially encoded sexism does not make forcible sex initiated by a vagina haver any less rape.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 14:06
There is no Romeo and Juliet law as such, but the criminal code applies only to people over 15 years of age, which is also the age of consent, so there is no age where two kids would both be commiting a crime by having sex with each other.
This seems contradictory, because it seems under this law a 15-year-old could get arrested for having sex with a 14-year-old? Unless you're saying a 15-year-old isn't a kid, which is a fairly absurd statement.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 17 Jun 2014, 14:27
I think you missed an important qualifier: "there is no age where two kids would both be commiting a crime by having sex with each other".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 14:36
I did miss that! Still fucked up though that a kid can be prosecuted for that, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 17 Jun 2014, 15:49
Lets hope she doesn't need The Holy Handgrenade of Antioch
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ThomasEll on 17 Jun 2014, 16:30
The strip is based in Massa......Massacult......Massachusetts, right? JJ might've wanted to do a little research first.... (http://www.legalmomentum.org/sites/default/files/reports/answeringcrquestions.pdf)

I'm not sure I see the issue, it's illegal to ask about arrests, but she's being asked about convictions. Unless I missed something.
cesariojpn is right, though his link has nothing to do with the actual Massachusetts law. In 2010, Massachusetts legislated a "ban the box" provision that prohibits employers from asking about criminal history on an initial job application. They may legally ask for criminal history later in the application process and run background checks, but they may not do so on your standard first paper application.

http://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/massachusetts-becomes-second-state-ban-box-all-employment-applications

All of those applications May has picked up are definitely illegal.


I think what you guys are forgetting is that it likely isn't even 2010 yet in the QC universe.

Jeph said in 2012 that "at least a couple years in comic-time since the strip started.", and in 2006 said that no more than 6 months had passed.

With that, you can extrapolate that roughly six months passes for every 3 years of writing (assuming roughly even time flow). Lowest estimate would put the QC universe at about 2006, possibly around 2008 max (although this is just a guess).

Given that, the law that would make those check boxes illegal probably wouldn't have been passed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Jun 2014, 16:33
I view QC time as paradoxical; the comic remains in the present (in an alternate universe, though), even while time passes at a different rate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 16:40
We don't know what year it was when the comic started. It could all take place in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 17 Jun 2014, 16:44
The music references were current.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 16:50
I forgot about the music.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 17 Jun 2014, 17:25
I figured cash-heavy businesses would be less of a worry, since her theft was electronic-based.

Checks and Credit Cards. Considering how many people nowadays are paranoid some hacker can steal their identity, all it would take is for one asshole customer who got their CC full of false transactions to direct their misguided rage at May and get her into trouble, regardless if she wasn't even the cause.

In the UK, women (or more accurately, people with vaginas) cannot commit rape - the offence specifies that it involves penile penetration. The equivalent offence of non-consensual sex carries the same maximum penalties but not the same name.

So wait, if a Transwoman that hasn't undergone the operation rapes someone, are they tried under the sex they are officially registered as at the time of the crime, or does CPS have to chose? It's something that makes you think from a legal perspective.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Jun 2014, 18:59
It all depends on who's older and whether or not daddy has lawyers, sometimes.


(I know, by the way. I have a cottage full of SO's whose crime is because they boffed their GF, and they were both under age at the time.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 17 Jun 2014, 19:01
We don't know what year it was when the comic started. It could all take place in the not too distant future.

Next Sunday, A.D., to be precise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 17 Jun 2014, 19:31
I view QC time as paradoxical; the comic remains in the present (in an alternate universe, though), even while time passes at a different rate.
Probably like in shows like Phineas and Ferb and Yotsubato where the days pass but they are eternally stuck in a summer day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 17 Jun 2014, 19:57
I view QC time as paradoxical; the comic remains in the present (in an alternate universe, though), even while time passes at a different rate.
Probably like in shows like Phineas and Ferb and Yotsubato where the days pass but they are eternally stuck in a summer day.

Or Pokémon, where Ash is eternally ten years of age.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 17 Jun 2014, 20:33
Luckily this is the QCverse, where a convenience store job probably pays enough for your own apartment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 17 Jun 2014, 20:39
I think it's a bit fruitless trying to look too seriously at how much time has passed (not that this has ever stopped a discussion in here before, but hey). It would be like trying to work out how old characters are in Peanuts by the number of strips. That's not how it works. Everything is in webcomic time. Related to comic time (aka the sliding timescale).

Of course there's a TV tropes entry.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WebcomicTime

If you're going in, I wish you godspeed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 17 Jun 2014, 22:24
Luckily this is the QCverse, where a convenience store job probably pays enough for your own apartment.

Dale had multiple jobs, right? The bigger question would be how does a barista like Faye even afford her half of the rent between her and Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 17 Jun 2014, 22:52
Webcomic economics, of course. Where jobs like barista, office bitch, college library assistant and the like actually pay enough for a halfway-decent apartment in a decent neighborhood. Even then, for Faye and Marten to afford an actual 2-bedroom apartment required them to pool their incomes.

In real life they'd both still be at home with their parents or living in a neighborhood with a high crime rate.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 17 Jun 2014, 23:34
What I was hoping the poll would be about is what kind of job the 4th application was for.

Now we know
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 17 Jun 2014, 23:39
Webcomic economics, of course. Where jobs like barista, office bitch, college library assistant and the like actually pay enough for a halfway-decent apartment in a decent neighborhood. Even then, for Faye and Marten to afford an actual 2-bedroom apartment required them to pool their incomes.

In real life they'd both still be at home with their parents or living in a neighborhood with a high crime rate.
Depends.  With a gf, I was able to afford a rather large one bedroom flat in SF on barista wages.  Even after she left, since I was rent-controlled, my boss paid me enough to cover rent, and I could live entirely off tips… And I mean shopping for real food instead of ramen, and being able to drink and smoke.  'Course that was before the price for everything there essentially doubled 'cos of the mini tech boom which has driven most people I know over to Oakland.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 17 Jun 2014, 23:53
Things are different in the QC-verse. How is it more difficult to accept that the box has not been banned than to accept AI civil rights?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 18 Jun 2014, 00:15
So wait, if a Transwoman that hasn't undergone the operation rapes someone, are they tried under the sex they are officially registered as at the time of the crime, or does CPS have to chose? It's something that makes you think from a legal perspective.

That's why saying "women can't commit rape" is misleading, because the legislation doesn't specify that you have to be male, it specifies that you have to have a penis. So women who have penises are able to commit rape, and would be prosecuted under that offence in the same way as men who have penises. Men and women who have vaginas would be prosecuted under a different offence.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 18 Jun 2014, 00:47
May continues to annoy me.

Although in all seriousness, she just got out of jail for embezzling millions, what does she expect?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 18 Jun 2014, 01:46
In the not so distant future…  Cue the MST3K song.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 18 Jun 2014, 06:00
A marijuana store, whether medical marijuana or a "hemp" store that operates out of a van, I would think, would have a clientele that would want to buy from people who could give them personal recommendations from their own experience. Can May even smell in her present chassis? Surely human recreational chemicals cannot affect anthroPCs.

Customer: Which would you recommend? The California Cornucopia blend or the Massachusetts Marauder blend for a bitchin' weekend?
May: Which ever one gives me the largest commission.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Jun 2014, 06:53
^ Spoken like someone who's never done real sales. It's not about personal experience. You can sell cars to people without even having a driver's license. So for example, let's say the Mass. Marauder blend does give me (as May) the better commission and it's being recommended by the store as a local blend. You can push all those points (without mentioning you get paid better for it) and get people thinking it's a brilliant idea to buy that item, whatever the hell it is, without making any outlandish claims, promises or vetting personal experience.

For example. "Well I'd suggest you try our Ganja of the Month the Massachusetts Marauder, it's 100% organic with no pesticides and it's grown in fresh local New England loam in controlled conditions year round, we like supporting our local growers, and the customers I have coming back for more certainly seem to agree."

Or if it's an individual more like the stoners I usually meet.

"Bro. The Marauder, hands down man. It's the bitchinist weekend you'll have this weekend"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 18 Jun 2014, 08:27
So Dale no longer works at the convenience store. When applying to Dora, he only mentioned wanting to quit the pizza job. That was also the one job we have seen him quit, and the only one we have seen him tell anyone that he has quit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 18 Jun 2014, 09:36
Webcomic economics, of course. Where jobs like barista, office bitch, college library assistant and the like actually pay enough for a halfway-decent apartment in a decent neighborhood. Even then, for Faye and Marten to afford an actual 2-bedroom apartment required them to pool their incomes.

In real life they'd both still be at home with their parents or living in a neighborhood with a high crime rate.
Depends.  With a gf, I was able to afford a rather large one bedroom flat in SF on barista wages.  Even after she left, since I was rent-controlled, my boss paid me enough to cover rent, and I could live entirely off tips… And I mean shopping for real food instead of ramen, and being able to drink and smoke.  'Course that was before the price for everything there essentially doubled 'cos of the mini tech boom which has driven most people I know over to Oakland.

What if the massive automation caused a massive reduction in prices (forklift AIs, factory AIs, agriculture AIs) this way production is cheap and humans migrated to the third sector (not sure if this term exists in English) so at least in the developed countries you don't need a good job to have a good life standard. Undeveloped countries and developing countries that rely on cheap labour on the other hand should be in a bad situation (mentioned in the firsts comics).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2014, 11:24
Coffee seems to have about the same price there as here, ditto guitars. A good restaurant meal is forty dollars. AI automation wouldn't help with rent prices, which are set by physical scarcity of land near employment.

This is fascinating to think about.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 18 Jun 2014, 16:26
May has Sonic spines for hair.

That is all.

(Sorry if this is old)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 18 Jun 2014, 16:29
I heartily approve of anything hedgehog related.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 18 Jun 2014, 16:37
Don't dis the Hemp Store van Dale

It's a chance for travel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 18 Jun 2014, 17:50
Coffee seems to have about the same price there as here, ditto guitars. A good restaurant meal is forty dollars. AI automation wouldn't help with rent prices, which are set by physical scarcity of land near employment.

This is fascinating to think about.
But maybe the money value is not the same.

I mean, like if everything is the same price but everyones salary is 10 times higher than if they had the same jobs in our world?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2014, 18:03
Although in all seriousness, she just got out of jail for embezzling millions, what does she expect?
She paid her debt to society and expects that to mean something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 18 Jun 2014, 18:15
I get that her crime is probably more for humour and establishing character than universe building, but it's still kinda weird to me that she felt she had to steal money to do/become what she wanted to be rather than just getting to do/be it. Surely she could've become a plane or aircraft AI somehow. Although maybe there's a lot of competition/screening for those tasks beyond appliance bots.

(Again, feel free to throw rocks at me if this is old ground)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2014, 18:18
Well she probably wanted to just be a fighter jet and be able to fly around all day without any of the responsibilities a fighter jet usually has.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Jun 2014, 18:31
Well she probably wanted to just be a fighter jet and be able to fly around all day without any of the responsibilities a fighter jet usually has.

Reality check: if they do a psych eval on police officers, you think they wouldn't do one on a sentient fighter drone? The only thing scarier than a heavily-armed sociopath or psychopath is a heavily-armed, winged sociopath or psychopath with jet engines.   :meh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2014, 18:36
Well yeah, that's why she tried to buy one on the black market.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 18 Jun 2014, 18:47
Mmmm, frog smoothies....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2014, 18:49
I hope Froglord likes bananas.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 18 Jun 2014, 19:33
Does Emily look different now?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jun 2014, 19:34
It might be the clothes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 18 Jun 2014, 19:45
Her hair also appears to have grown back out a bit.

Could it be that (shock faint horror) time is actually passing in the QC-verse?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Jun 2014, 20:36
Yes, I also thought Emily looked a bit different. Something in the shape of her face, I think. I'm not sure I like it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2014, 20:38
Coffee seems to have about the same price there as here, ditto guitars. A good restaurant meal is forty dollars. AI automation wouldn't help with rent prices, which are set by physical scarcity of land near employment.

This is fascinating to think about.
But maybe the money value is not the same.

I mean, like if everything is the same price but everyones salary is 10 times higher than if they had the same jobs in our world?

Economics could definitely work that way. On the other hand, near the start of the comic Marten said he was making barely USD20K/yr.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Jun 2014, 20:53
Silly Sam and Marten friend! You can't go innawoods like that! You need a Mosin-Nagant to go innawoods!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 18 Jun 2014, 21:03
Coffee seems to have about the same price there as here, ditto guitars. A good restaurant meal is forty dollars. AI automation wouldn't help with rent prices, which are set by physical scarcity of land near employment.

This is fascinating to think about.
But maybe the money value is not the same.

I mean, like if everything is the same price but everyones salary is 10 times higher than if they had the same jobs in our world?

Economics could definitely work that way. On the other hand, near the start of the comic Marten said he was making barely USD20K/yr.
What was his job back them?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Jun 2014, 21:15
Coffee seems to have about the same price there as here, ditto guitars. A good restaurant meal is forty dollars. AI automation wouldn't help with rent prices, which are set by physical scarcity of land near employment.

This is fascinating to think about.
But maybe the money value is not the same.

I mean, like if everything is the same price but everyones salary is 10 times higher than if they had the same jobs in our world?

Economics could definitely work that way. On the other hand, near the start of the comic Marten said he was making barely USD20K/yr.
What was his job back them?

Office drone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 18 Jun 2014, 21:16
Yes, I also thought Emily looked a bit different. Something in the shape of her face, I think. I'm not sure I like it.

Everybody tends to come back looking different when they haven't been drawn in a while.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Jun 2014, 22:33
It's the humidity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Jun 2014, 23:55
What's green but turns red at the touch of a button?

A frog in a blender.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 19 Jun 2014, 00:31
So Dale no longer works at the convenience store. When applying to Dora, he only mentioned wanting to quit the pizza job. That was also the one job we have seen him quit, and the only one we have seen him tell anyone that he has quit.

A previous convenience store job he held before his current set of jobs, maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 19 Jun 2014, 00:44
Yes, I also thought Emily looked a bit different. Something in the shape of her face, I think. I'm not sure I like it.

Everybody tends to come back looking different when they haven't been drawn in a while.
Just as people in the real world tend to look different when you haven't seen them in a while. Hmmm... I think we're on to something here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 19 Jun 2014, 00:52
Although in all seriousness, she just got out of jail for embezzling millions, what does she expect?
She paid her debt to society and expects that to mean something.

She didn't steal something for a shop, or even steal a car. She embezzled millions of dollars. You don't get to do that and just expect everything to be fine once you're out of jail.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Doc on 19 Jun 2014, 01:18
Froggie in the blender!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 19 Jun 2014, 05:06
Who wants to bet that Emily will try to drink it anyway? :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 19 Jun 2014, 05:48
She didn't steal something for a shop, or even steal a car. She embezzled millions of dollars. You don't get to do that and just expect everything to be fine once you're out of jail.

So how hard a life are the former Executives from Enron, MF Global, Tyco, or any one of hundreds on Wall Street having now?
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 19 Jun 2014, 05:59
She didn't steal something for a shop, or even steal a car. She embezzled millions of dollars. You don't get to do that and just expect everything to be fine once you're out of jail.

So how hard a life are the former Executives from Enron, MF Global, Tyco, or any one of hundreds on Wall Street having now?
(click to show/hide)

Which has what to do with anything?

'I know loads of racists that aren't in jail, so we shouldn't punish this one!'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 19 Jun 2014, 06:12
It's not how much you steal, but who you know. If this were an IRL situation, I'd be betting Macy's lack of "connections" and possible anti-AI prejudice had much to do with her sentence compared to any of the Big Time Swindlers. Maybe she was a robot-Madoff, or robot-Martha Stewart. Martha spent time in Club Fed for relatively small potatoes before bouncing back and Bernie's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 19 Jun 2014, 06:30
Coffee seems to have about the same price there as here, ditto guitars. A good restaurant meal is forty dollars. AI automation wouldn't help with rent prices, which are set by physical scarcity of land near employment.

This is fascinating to think about.
But maybe the money value is not the same.

I mean, like if everything is the same price but everyones salary is 10 times higher than if they had the same jobs in our world?

Economics could definitely work that way. On the other hand, near the start of the comic Marten said he was making barely USD20K/yr.
What was his job back them?

Office drone.
So maybe he was doing A job that already was dominated by AIs? AIs would do 100 times more than him but he would still get the same salary as the AIs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 19 Jun 2014, 14:47
Quote from: IICIH
20K USD/year [back then]

For what it's worth, $20K/2088 work hours per year = about $9.50 per hour... only nominally more than minimum wage in MA in 2003 ($6.75) (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/content/PDF/state_min_wage.pdf)

That's still more than the current minimum wage in Massachusetts (currently $8, but about to raise to $11 if legislation passes). Who knows what raises he would have gotten as an office drone (probably not much unless he quit and left or somehow got another job (oh wait he did(sort of))).

I think the economics in QCverse are approximately similar to reality... Station tried to "pay off" Lt. Potter for $4.6M (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2119), which is about what you'd need (I think) at her age to life comfortably without needing to work if invested properly. That scans pretty well with what you'd need now in realityverse to do the same.

I suspect that Jeph will have Something To Say about AI/Human discrimination/pay disparity/etc and whatnot soon in the comic, but it's hard to take the current QCverse with its new concepts and completely reconcile it with 2003QCverse. (hedge)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DonInKansas on 19 Jun 2014, 15:04
So does a Frog Smoothie go well with Space Ham?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jun 2014, 15:49
Frog Smooties

As made in France
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 19 Jun 2014, 16:45
Who wants to bet that Emily will try to drink it anyway? :P

No bets there, it's always a possibility with Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 19 Jun 2014, 16:49
Her hair also appears to have grown back out a bit.

She's got two little hair horns (not sure what else to call them) in front now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 19 Jun 2014, 17:00
Are we sure it is Emily?  Could be a random background person who looks kinda like her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 19 Jun 2014, 17:28
The diagonal angle of the, um, "hem" of her hair (for lack of a better term) suggests Emily pretty strongly. It's a pretty unusual look. I think Emily's just done something different with the hair on her forehead... added some bangs, or something?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 19 Jun 2014, 17:56
The hair (and the fact that Emily's the only one we've seen order smoothies at COD) suggests it's Emily. The hair's slightly different, but the eyes seem like they've changed significantly. Compare the last two panels with, say, http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2207 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2207) or the storyline at her parents' house.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Jun 2014, 18:14
Her bangs have grown out (the front part of her hair).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 19 Jun 2014, 18:17
Does Emily look different now?
I think it's the two bangs she has hanging above her eyes. Interesting how such a minor detail changes the overall aspect of a face.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 19 Jun 2014, 19:38
Yeah, watch it, Dale.  Her hair needs to look nice for the new job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jun 2014, 20:07
Awwww :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 19 Jun 2014, 20:27
It's the humidity.

It took me a moment to realise that this is not actually a response to the last panel of today's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 19 Jun 2014, 21:06
I automatically claim that as an alternate caption for that last panel next week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Monkey Says Yes on 19 Jun 2014, 21:33
Oh, that's definitely Emily, unless they're a whole cadre of tall, slim ladies who love smashed bananas in a cup.

I really like May!  She's the QC Malaya, except with a better personality.  =)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 19 Jun 2014, 22:14
May looks really cute in the last panel. Jeph has really gotten awfully good with facial expressions.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 19 Jun 2014, 23:09
I'm was a day behind, and just got through laughing my head off over the frog smoothie incident.  "Frog smoothie" should be an option on the next poll.

I really hope we get to see Ceremonial Frog return to the swamp.  Frog + more of Jeph's cool nature drawings would be awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 19 Jun 2014, 23:36
Feels like May is his pet. She didn't smiled when he got her a job but smiled when he petted her. Maybe she is a dog AI.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 20 Jun 2014, 00:33
It's the humidity.
It took me a moment to realise that this is not actually a response to the last panel of today's comic.
It should have been.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 20 Jun 2014, 02:05
The hair (and the fact that Emily's the only one we've seen order smoothies at COD) suggests it's Emily.

Minor nitpick: Claire ordered one on behalf of Emily, and Hanners tells her that they need to wash off the hammer. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2273)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 20 Jun 2014, 05:01
May responds well to decent treatment. There is hope.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 20 Jun 2014, 06:13
Most people do. AI or not :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: miados on 20 Jun 2014, 07:27
well she probably didn't get much if any in robot jail and since she is moving in with dale I would bet she doesn't really have friends/family so she likely didn't get many visitors. He might be the first person to have given her positive attention in a long while and well I want to use a comparison with a sponge but can't think of how to word it, but when you don't get anything positive in your life when you get even a small amount you sort of cling to it which is probably part of why she asked to move in since she knows dale is a good guy and won't hurt her.

also I think may looks really cute in this form. it helps that she isn't mr popo blue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 20 Jun 2014, 15:44
Be careful Dale, static charge is a bitch.


Glad to see May getting a job - we hope.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 20 Jun 2014, 17:32
There's a comedy gold mine in showing May trying to adjust her attitude to suit the job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 20 Jun 2014, 19:54
mr popo blue.
I was going to respond to this with "wait, what?" but then I googled it and...apparently they recolored him for a new series? Interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Renimar on 21 Jun 2014, 00:29
So Dale no longer works at the convenience store. When applying to Dora, he only mentioned wanting to quit the pizza job. That was also the one job we have seen him quit, and the only one we have seen him tell anyone that he has quit.

Dale's working all his previous jobs was likely due to each place only having a few hours to give him per week, so in order to actually pay his bills and support his mother, he had to work like 5 jobs at 10 hours/week each.  Perhaps CoD is giving him more hours and/or paying him more such that he can quit his other jobs and just be a barista. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 21 Jun 2014, 01:34
There's a comedy gold mine in showing May trying to adjust her attitude to suit the job.

One a week montage of May "jumping" from job to job, and why she was fired/let go from the previous job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 21 Jun 2014, 14:05
I find May's comment about her hair interesting - between the wireyness of her hair and lack of outer skin covering (how waterproof (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305) is she?) it seems to solidify the theory about her body being a lower end model. I know it's been discussed to some extent, but I wonder just how customizable the different models are within a line? Sure, there's no doubt they could have an AI in just about any form desired, but how different is one average model from another in the same line? I'm thinking that it's like buying a car in that aspect - they AI's personality is obviously going to be a factor in selecting a make and model (Momo had definite likes and dislikes (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1998)), but other than coloration, gender, and hair how crazy can option selection get for the average buyer?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Jun 2014, 14:29
Well we've seen AI bodies ranging from spiders and perfect humans to toasters. Famous anime characters to whales. Then more "standard" or perhaps even obsolete models like Pintsize and Winslow. So for the actual civilian market place? I'd guess the variety doesn't end. Especially when you factor in custom chassis and hobby builders.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 21 Jun 2014, 14:43
hobby builders.
Especially them. This must be the golden age of robotics in the QCverse….
Really want to see a Lego anthro-PC now. Wonder how many Mindstorms smart bricks you need to run an AI natively?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Jun 2014, 16:32
You won't see a LEGO AnthroPC in Jeph's comic for one very obvious reason.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 21 Jun 2014, 17:45
You won't see a LEGO AnthroPC in Jeph's comic for one very obvious reason.

Well, not branded as such, but you could get the point across that it's made of Legos, Lincoln Logs, an Erector Set, or whatever, without actually calling it by a brand name.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Jun 2014, 18:17
Lincoln Logs? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2587)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 21 Jun 2014, 18:57
Lincoln Logs? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2587)

I always thought that Anthro PC was related to Log, not to Lincoln Logs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 21 Jun 2014, 19:23
Well, we've seen, from GitS: Stand Alone Complex, a human install his CNS into a bread box in the form of a Jameson type prosthetic body.
(http://www.serenadawn.com/GITS-Cybernetics_clip_image002_0003.jpg)
There's no reason not to expect AIs to have similar range of options.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Jun 2014, 21:30
I still don't get why you'd do a Jameson type prosthetic when you can get the full package like the Major. Each to their own I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 21 Jun 2014, 22:43
I still don't get why you'd do a Jameson type prosthetic when you can get the full package like the Major. Each to their own I suppose.
Dirt poor or recently paroled prisonner?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Jun 2014, 23:40
Warning: the following post contains inconsequential spoilers for ghost in the shell. They are not related to the main plot of the anime but new viewers who wish to watch ghost in the shell may want to skip this post. I would spoiler it but I'm on my phone.

I suppose, but the only people we seeing ghost in the shell in a Jameson type prosthetic  is an eccentric wealthy man who I believe is supposed to be an American. He's played for laughs but there are comments from Major Kusanagi's team that indicate that he might have some type of mental disorder which would imply that better options are available and cheaply.

 it is also worth noting that the glimpses we get of the major's childhood indicate that she has had a high quality or at least comparatively high quality you compared to a Jameson prosthetic, set up since her accident as a child.  it is simply possible that major Kusanagi is from a wealthy family we have not received any indicators of that background or status in the rest of her background. Not that we have terribly much information on the major's background. I'm under the impression that she's actually an orphan but I might be misremembering that.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 22 Jun 2014, 00:44
You won't see a LEGO AnthroPC in Jeph's comic for one very obvious reason.

He's a Mega Blocks fan? That heretic!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 22 Jun 2014, 03:06
I still don't get why you'd do a Jameson type prosthetic when you can get the full package like the Major. Each to their own I suppose.
From memory, I think he did it out of some strange fascination with the Jameson model, putting it bluntly. Being an eccentric billionaire pretty much lets you do what you want with your own body, even when it comes to prosthetics.

It is also worth noting that the glimpses we get of the major's childhood indicate that she has had a high quality or at least comparatively high quality you compared to a Jameson prosthetic, set up since her accident as a child.
I don't really remember too much detail about the Major's past, besides the accident and
(click to show/hide)
It was never really disclosed how much the procedure cost, and I don't think mention was made of her family's status either. Might have to watch the series again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 22 Jun 2014, 09:54
I would spoiler it but I'm on my phone.

You can just type the [spoiler][/spoiler] tags, you know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 22 Jun 2014, 10:59
That sounds like work :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2726-2730 (16 - 20 June 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 23 Jun 2014, 16:19
Whats in store this week?


May the AnthroPC Activist  ..........  8 (14.5%)
Dale, Magical Love Gentleman  ..........  8 (14.5%)
The Battle of The Spiderzone  ..........  6 (10.9%)
Marten the Big Brother  ..........  15 (27.3%)
Sam, Veronica's Padawan  ..........  5 (9.1%)
Hannelore discovers Yuri/Shojou-Ai  .......... 3 (5.5%)
More Jim and Veronica hijinks  .......... 1 (1.8%)
Late Night with Angus McPhee and Faye Whittaker  ..........  2 (3.6%)
Yelling Bird humps the Shame Orb  ..........  3 (5.5%)
Spathe Ham with Bacon Waffles  ..........  1 (1.8%)
Purple Monkey Dishwasher ..........  3 (5.5%)