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Title: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Jul 2014, 20:33
Steve's doing well, let's hope it works (although it doesn't seem like it will).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 27 Jul 2014, 21:25
I wonder how differently this part of the comic reads at speed. i.e. Are there any continuity clues to be gleaned?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 27 Jul 2014, 22:55
I deal less well with rejection because I was *not* the kid who got anything he wanted - money was always tight.

Nowadays, I think I tend to latch onto people I vaguely find positive and am hurt when they don't fulfill the sometimes impossible expectations I put into them.

Just saying, it can go both ways.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 28 Jul 2014, 00:06
Just saying, it can go both ways.

Still, Steve looks like he's got it right about Sven.

And in the last panel, is Sven so childish he still thinks the world really owes him a GI Joe aircraft carrier, or is he going to see the irony of what he's saying, and accept that it's normal not to get everything you want?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 28 Jul 2014, 00:11
Dude, you're an ADULT.

Missing any christmas presents you should have gotten as a child ?

THEN GO BUY THEM NOW !!!

(Duh)



Nowadays, I think I tend to latch onto people I vaguely find positive and am hurt when they don't fulfill the sometimes impossible expectations I put into them.
Thats a character trait ... not a good one, but not one you get from any childhood. We ARE born with some kind of personality.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 28 Jul 2014, 00:13
I still want my own Hummer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 28 Jul 2014, 00:14
Wait a minute.  Steve and Sven are friends?  Steve is Martin's friend.  Does he know Sven well enough to have a conversation with him?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 28 Jul 2014, 00:54
[...]  Steve is Martin's friend. [...]
Who is Martin ?

Theres only a Marten in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 28 Jul 2014, 00:58
There's a GI Joe Aircraft Carrier?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 28 Jul 2014, 01:03
Theres only a Marten in the comic.
Actually, there is no Marten either, only Zuul.


@Zoe, yeah, there was, and it was BADASS. (Though I never had one, naturally)
(http://thecornerarsenal.com/ussflagg1.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 28 Jul 2014, 01:14
Thats a character trait ... not a good one, but not one you get from any childhood. We ARE born with some kind of personality.

For obvious personal reasons, I'd like to see your sources.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 28 Jul 2014, 01:18
I hope Sven actually learns something from this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 28 Jul 2014, 01:20
He might learn that you just Can't Always Get What You Want. I reiterate, You Can't Always Get What You Want. But, if you try sometimes, you might find, you get what you need you'll still fail because you're not automatically entitled to everything.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 28 Jul 2014, 01:31
Quote
If you trust in yourself...
and believe in your dreams...
and follow your star...
you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.
Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 28 Jul 2014, 02:57
There's a GI Joe Aircraft Carrier?
There is no more potent symbol of "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!", so of course there is. According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Flagg), it was seven and a half feet long :-o but what really boggles my mind is that, apparently, a model of a Nimitz class carrier, on which the toy was based, built to the same scale as the little dolls action-figures would be sixty-five feet long! A bit large for even an American basement.

Sven should get over it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 28 Jul 2014, 05:56
I deal less well with rejection because I was *not* the kid who got anything he wanted - money was always tight.

Nowadays, I think I tend to latch onto people I vaguely find positive and am hurt when they don't fulfill the sometimes impossible expectations I put into them.

Just saying, it can go both ways.
I had a similar upbringing, but the results were kind of different. Rejection doesn't phase me much. But unfairness and inequality (from a somewhat selfish and possibly crazy point of view) fuck my shit up to no end.

Still, I would hate Sven as a person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Jul 2014, 06:41
It appears my clue by four didn't work on Sven. Time to upgrade my hardware. *starts driving nails into the board*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 28 Jul 2014, 07:05
Told 'ya
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 28 Jul 2014, 07:35
I knew a kid who got everything he asked for every Christmas. I discovered this around the third grade, when a week or so before Christmas he started listing all the presents he was going to get. I asked him, "How do you know you're getting all that?" And his answer was, "Because I asked for them!" This was so foreign to my experience that I literally couldn't understand what he was saying at first - I was the fifth of six kids and not from a rich family, so I was lucky to get one or two things from my list. And the idea that I didn't get everything I asked for was incomprehensible to this kid. We lived in different worlds.

This may have contributed just a bit to my intolerance for privileged assholes who think they are victims.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Jul 2014, 08:32
I actually have more annoyance for people who have money and are then resentful that they aren't working class. I have a friend who was having MAJOR middle class guilt just because he'd had some money left him by an uncle or something and felt like he couldn't properly be our friends. He thought we'd think he was an asshole for having money.

Truth is, we thought he was an asshole because of how he was handling having that money.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 28 Jul 2014, 08:59
Worse still are those people who have money and then complain that the poor are not poor enough e.g. " . . .
all these blacks/immigrants/travellers/welfare spongers getting government handouts blah blah etc. etc.
"  I never pay enough attention to them find out what they got for Christmas, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LocoJoe on 28 Jul 2014, 10:45
I've been told no for the majority of my life, and it has caused me to go into things expecting the worst. Job interview? "Not gonna get it." Talking to a woman one on one? "Even if I had the courage to do so, chances are it won't go anywhere." I know this is a horrible way to go about life and is a habit that I think is almost impossible to break, but it does help me appreciate the moments when things actually do go my way. 

But it also means that I hate people like Sven, who seem to get things handed to them with little effort. I thought he was progressing when he had the pretend date with Hanners, but these last few strips have shown me that he hasn't changed much at all.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Jul 2014, 10:46
Old habits die hard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 28 Jul 2014, 11:09
My main thought today: "Man, Sven is an ass". I didn't like him much in this arc anyway, but today cemented it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LocoJoe on 28 Jul 2014, 11:11
Old habits die hard.

Ain't that the fuckin' truth.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Jul 2014, 11:32
Sven is the product of a middle class malaise and as such is a bit of an asshole. He has never really had to work hard for anything. This doesn't make him less of an asshole, but it's not completely his own fault really.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 28 Jul 2014, 11:37
Well no, anyone's assholeishness can be chalked up at least partly to their parents' or other significant adults' failure to properly socialise them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Jul 2014, 11:59
Sven gained from the pretend date. Maybe he should ask Hannelore for another one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Jul 2014, 12:17
My main thought today: "Man, Sven is an ass". I didn't like him much in this arc anyway, but today cemented it.

He actually seemed to be progressing for a bit. It's always a shame when someone's redeeming qualities turn out to just be a phase they were going through.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 28 Jul 2014, 12:25
One step forward, three steps back.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Jul 2014, 13:14
In this case, one step forward, one aircraft carrier back...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 28 Jul 2014, 14:22
I have faith in Sven, Jeph and epiphanies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Jul 2014, 15:42
epiphanies.

Immediately thought of this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1475)

Then this (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2035)...

Epiphanies can take a while - that one took 740 comics (and a Hannelore) until it kicked in.  (that's over 4 years RT... !)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 28 Jul 2014, 16:31
Well, it's been pretty clear that Sven is an asshole right from the start - at least he is finding out now that life ain't always easy, slow as he is on the uptake. Hubris, it's a bitch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 Jul 2014, 18:14
Sven is one of those people who has always had it easy in life; perfect grades without trying, the songs he wrote always sold and the royalties meant he could just sit around all day and do nothing, always able to pick up any girl he wanted. Sven has not had to struggle for anything in his life and now he is woefully unprepared for being rejected. The one person who actually rejected him continues to do so and I imagine that for Mr. Bianchi, that just makes Faye even more desirable.

Only now it looks like teddy is about to get thrown out of the pram and cause nothing but problems for everyone else.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 28 Jul 2014, 18:43
Okay, so I seriously almost fell out of bed laughing, and have probably awoken my flatmate. Whoa, Emily. Whoa.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 28 Jul 2014, 18:43
Okay, so, early comic again, and... What. The. Fuck?  :psyduck:

I'm trying to decide if that last panel is Hannelore's imagination, or Marten's imagination, or what really happened. Could be all three, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 28 Jul 2014, 18:51
Marten is in for a very strange and twilight-zone-esque time...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 28 Jul 2014, 18:59
What.
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 28 Jul 2014, 19:00
Im still trying to determine if that last panel was in their imaginations or if it happened.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 Jul 2014, 19:00
.............
.............
.............
.............
That's it, I'm out of here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 28 Jul 2014, 19:03
I'm curious as to how she got them all to stay in the basket (any of you ever try catching a wild mouse live?).  Maybe she snapped all their necks first...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Jul 2014, 19:04
Aaaaand I immediately thought of this:
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 28 Jul 2014, 19:21
 Emily, no.

 You don't bring people mice when you like them, you bring them when you think they aren't pulling their weight and you want to teach them to hunt.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 28 Jul 2014, 19:29
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Jul 2014, 19:32
I'm reasonably certain that's Marten's imagination or Marten giving an example of what might happen if Emily had a crush on him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Jul 2014, 19:42
I'm reasonably certain that's Marten's imagination or Marten giving an example of what might happen if Emily had a crush on him.

That's the thing, though... that last panel wouldn't necessarily be out of character for Emily. Guess we'll find out soon...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 28 Jul 2014, 19:47
I want the last panel to be real...please let it be real...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 28 Jul 2014, 20:01
Now Marten be polite and eat them!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 28 Jul 2014, 20:10
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 28 Jul 2014, 20:11
What.

Also, this strip shoots down two ships, one of which I was not on board with (for the same reasons as Marten portrays in this strip), one of which I was.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DFTBA on 28 Jul 2014, 20:21
Yeah, really dissapointed that Gabby and Marten apparently won't be happening :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 28 Jul 2014, 20:39
...this is in Marten's head, right?  I'm honestly not sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Jul 2014, 20:39
Nobody knows. Least of all Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Chelicerate on 28 Jul 2014, 20:49
Oh god.

She's peacocking (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=peacocking)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 28 Jul 2014, 20:58
What.

Also, this strip shoots down two ships, one of which I was not on board with (for the same reasons as Marten portrays in this strip), one of which I was.

He brings up the intern thing a lot. I think it'd hold more water if the interns weren't pretty much unofficially higher up the totem pole then he is. Marten does not wield the power in the library. He can't coerce interns to sleep with him and they can't try and get special treatment dating him. There's no real ethical conflict there.

So each time he says it it does feel more like backing down on Claire or sinking the ship or whatever than a legitimate thing, even if that isn't the case.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 28 Jul 2014, 21:33
If only Marten had a snake* to eat the mice.

*no, not that kind, you preverts.  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Janet_Yellens_yellin on 28 Jul 2014, 21:38
I think one important thing to notice here is that Marten gave reasons why he shouldn't be interested but never actually said that he wasn't, perhaps even redirecting the conversation when Hannelore brings it up. I'm not sure I see how "but imagine what she would be like if she had a crush on me" is a direct response to Hannelore's suggestion that he just tell Emily (or Hannelore? I was pretty sure it's meant to refer to Emily, but it could also be read as Hannelore) that he's not interested in Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 28 Jul 2014, 21:57
I suspect that Marten does like her, but isn't quite sure how to feel about it. And I'm not sure how to feel about this coupling either. I don't mind Emily but it seems like an odd match.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 28 Jul 2014, 22:29
I suspect that Marten does like her, but isn't quite sure how to feel about it.

Really?

He sounds indiferent to me.  I mean, if I really liked a girl, the last thing I would think was "oh shit, well she's an intern so I guess I can't date her.  Oh well!"  I'd think, "just another obstacle...I WILL make this work".

But that's me, and not Marten, so yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 28 Jul 2014, 23:23
I was also wondering if it's in Marten's imagination or really happening. The first two panels are in his kitchen, though, at the last is in the library, so I assume it's his imagination.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 28 Jul 2014, 23:32
Good catch.

Marten says: "Imagine what Emily would be like towards someone she has a crush on." Hannelore does just that. This is how I read it from the start. The change of scene has quite convinced me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 29 Jul 2014, 00:14
I was also wondering if it's in Marten's imagination or really happening. The first two panels are in his kitchen, though, at the last is in the library, so I assume it's his imagination.
It could be a scene skip
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 29 Jul 2014, 00:32
Oh god.

She's peacocking (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=peacocking)
More like a nuptial plumage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumage). We know Jeph likes birds.
I was also wondering if it's in Marten's imagination or really happening. The first two panels are in his kitchen, though, at the last is in the library, so I assume it's his imagination.
I really hope this happens only in Hannelore's and/or Marten's imagination. Even for Emily, this would be a quantum jump in weirdness. What is missing, is a visual clue, something like the drunk bubbles, but the drawing style suggests this is really happening. Perhaps Jeph just wants us to be confused?
I want the last panel to be real...please let it be real...
:parrot: Please let it be unreal...please!

There seems to be a discontinuity somewhere, we are missing a Steve/Marten conversation prior to #2752 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2752), where Steve complains about Marten. The same conversation is referred to in today's strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2757). I guess a guest strip replaced the missing strip.

Of course, we can imagine the conversation taking place off-strip. I guess it would be something like this:

Marten: "I think Emily has a crush on me."
Steve: "Good for you! Now, go for it!"
Marten: "I am not sure. It would be unethical to date an intern."
Steve (gibbs-smacking Marten (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gibbs-smacked)): "I wanted to do a high-five, but I guess this will have to do."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 29 Jul 2014, 00:58
What.

Also, this strip shoots down two ships, one of which I was not on board with (for the same reasons as Marten portrays in this strip), one of which I was.

Wait wait, two ships with interns? How?

I was also wondering if it's in Marten's imagination or really happening. The first two panels are in his kitchen, though, at the last is in the library, so I assume it's his imagination.

Good catch.

Marten says: "Imagine what Emily would be like towards someone she has a crush on." Hannelore does just that. This is how I read it from the start. The change of scene has quite convinced me.

I don't think this is the case. The smash cut to the scene could be either one of them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 29 Jul 2014, 01:02
I was also wondering if it's in Marten's imagination or really happening. The first two panels are in his kitchen, though, at the last is in the library, so I assume it's his imagination.
Yeah, I'm going with that as well for now. We'll see tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 29 Jul 2014, 01:37
I love the idea that Emily is weird enough that everyone believes that the last panel could be true, whether it really happened or is just Marten's imagination. I'm kind of enjoying not knowing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Jul 2014, 02:00
Remember the fairy when Hanners and Marten were looking for a coffee shop?  If that was real, so could this be...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 29 Jul 2014, 02:02
Mice? Emily, my girl, you cannot expect to take your place in the clan until you at least bring home a squirrel...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 29 Jul 2014, 04:14
I love the idea that Emily is weird enough that everyone believes that the last panel could be true, whether it really happened or is just Marten's imagination. I'm kind of enjoying not knowing.
Quite enjoyable, yes.

I took it as Marten's implication.  Sure, it could be Hanners' imagination.  The only thing that makes me think it didn't really happen, is that it would leve Jeph unable to further tease his audience with this will-they-or-won't-they schtick.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Jul 2014, 04:44
Oh come on, have faith. Marten is wishy-washy enough to stammer out some excuse that would leave things in question. Or just flee the scene in confusion and panic. And Emily is oblivious enough to not get anything short of a firm, direct no. The not dating them because they are interns really doesn't hold water though. He really is just an office bitch for the library.  The reason he was hired and has so much responsibility is because Tai has free run of the place so long as there aren't problems, and she would rather get high and watch Adventure Time. Marten really isn't any higher on the totem pole than the interns, it's just that he gets paid, and they may not. Just doing it for work credits. I can see him not wanting to date a co-worker because if it doesn't work out it would be awkwardness... but it seems more that he says that because it's expected. I mean look at the awkward that happened when he and Dora dated, then broke up. You could see that potential a mile away, and it was much worse than dating one of the interns would be.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 29 Jul 2014, 05:19
Emily, you're goin' way off the radar this time. I'm suspecting either Marten's imagining the scenario, Hanners is imagining the scenario, or we're getting trolled hard in some other way by Jeph. Again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Jul 2014, 06:00
One thing to remember is that internships are typically short-term. In their first appearance (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2203) they were described as "summer interns". That was a couple of years ago, real-time. How much longer can Northampton's endless summer last? Yeah, I know, comic time, so as long as Jeph wants. But if Jeph decides he wants things to move in that direction, the resolution is simple: summer ends, the internships end, and any potential ethical problems vanish.

Or, you know, Marten could get some ambition and get a better job. But let's not expect miracles here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 29 Jul 2014, 06:32
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur?  :psyduck:

I imagine Emily went tribal for mice hunting? When I saw all the color, I first thought, dear lord, she's gone Peacock for Marten.  :-o

Nothing like a good easter egg mice basket to show love.  You can keep them as pets. Experiment on them. Feed them to cats. Mice stew.

Accept them, Marten, and you are trapped-buddy boy. In Emily's world, the exchange of mice could mean intentions of marriage.

Seriously, maybe Marten needs some weirdness to his dating life.  Emily might be just the right medicine for his passivity disease.

And really, intern schmintern. They are summer employees of legal age and you aren't even technically working for the library.

Besides, it's not like you hold power Marten. Oh bless you, but you don't and no one would give it to you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 29 Jul 2014, 07:02
Or, you know, Marten could get some ambition and get a better job. But let's not expect miracles here.
In QC, miracles can and should happen. Marten currently has a low-pressure job, with a cool boss, nice interns, and lots of hot SMIF students to ogle. But there are no career opportunities, and the income is probably very low (although in QC, economic laws seem to work differently). He has a decent apartment, and can afford to drink beer. The only economic pinch we have seen, is how he could afford to buy a new guitar.

Otherwise, he lives a frugal lifestyle, and seems quite happy with that. He gets free coffee at CoD (at least he did while dating Dora, he was worried about having to buy coffee at TSB after breaking up with Dora). He doesn't travel (probably he has not been back to California after he followed Vicky to the East coast). He has been to SPACE, but that was a free ride. Also, he attended his father's wedding in Vermont, but that was because he had to. He does not own (and does not need) a car. He has not a huge wardrobe (but seems happy with his collection of "TEH" shirts, a GYBE shirt, and a couple of others).

Still, he really should have higher ambitions. The library job will probably not be forever. Currently, Tai protects him, but what if she finds another job? Marten is not qualified for her job, and when someone finds out non-paid interns can do the job just as well, he will be fired.

The library job makes me quite depressed, really. I really hope Marten finds a better job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 29 Jul 2014, 07:07
How do we know the interns aren't paid? (Is it stated in a comic I forgot about?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 29 Jul 2014, 07:25
How do we know the interns aren't paid? (Is it stated in a comic I forgot about?)

Because internships are slave labor, bruh.  I thought every college student/grad learned that lesson.  :cry:

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The library job makes me quite depressed, really. I really hope Marten finds a better job.

Jeez, man. I didn't need to be depressed today with a reminder of how sad Marten's life can be when you look at it that way.  Really though, the dude just doesn't have much ambition.  Granted, other things have happened, but when was the last time Marten jammed out with his "band?"

At any rate, maybe Emily is so damned weird and just...out there, that her weirdness supreme could be a positive influence.  Granted, everyone in the QC land is a bit...odd, but Emily takes the cake and that's saying something.


---

Looking at it again, Marten doesn't even really acknowledge Hanner's thoughts on just telling Emily he's not interested.  He deflects with an excuse that actually makes no sense.

Unless he's afraid of what Emily would do if he rejected her advances, in which case, if that imagined scenario in the last panel was Marten's....it'd be a frightening level of weird and creepy combined.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 29 Jul 2014, 07:28
In physics at least, the REU (Research Experience for Undergrads) interns are better-paid than the grad students.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Jul 2014, 08:01
It mostly depends on who you are interning for. When I did my electronic's internship I made sure to find a place that was willing to pay me for it. Mostly because I needed money to pay rent and such... In my case is was really more a three month minimum wage trial period where they made reports to my school about my performance. Then once I graduated I was moved up to paid test monkey with a degree and got like a 75 cent raise.

My case is fairly unusual though. Most interns are expected to work for free 'because of the experience'. Which is BS and slave labor because most people who take on interns know they can use and abuse them, because the system puts all the power in the businesses hands.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 29 Jul 2014, 08:18
Why should he have higher ambitions? We've never heard him express a desire to do a particular job (not a realistic one anyway). All he really wants to do is play music, and a higher-pressure job would reduce his opportunity to do that, not increase it. Everything that he's said he wants to change about his life can be achieved as easily or more easily in his current job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 29 Jul 2014, 08:31
I'm not to proud to admit it.

I've never seen this method of wooing before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 29 Jul 2014, 11:44
Why should he have higher ambitions? We've never heard him express a desire to do a particular job (not a realistic one anyway). All he really wants to do is play music, and a higher-pressure job would reduce his opportunity to do that, not increase it. Everything that he's said he wants to change about his life can be achieved as easily or more easily in his current job.

You know, thank you for bringing up that concept. If you have work that's at least not unenjoyable and supports you and maybe yours and you do it well enough that the ones who pay you want to keep you around, who is anyone else to judge? I have a couple ambitions I want to fulfill but I am currently living a hell of a lot better than when I was making more money, had a title that looked like it ought to be impressive, and was donating at least 20 extra hours a week to mouthbreathers who were interested mainly in how much posterior I had kissed that day ... 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Jul 2014, 11:45
Marten is not qualified for her job, and when someone finds out non-paid interns can do the job just as well, he will be fired.

He could always tactfully appeal to the trustees but I don't think his mind works that way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 29 Jul 2014, 11:47
Marten is not qualified for her job, and when someone finds out non-paid interns can do the job just as well, he will be fired.

He could always tactfully appeal to the trustees but I don't think his mind works that way.

Are there not a couple of trustees who see Marten's tactful silence as worth buying?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 29 Jul 2014, 11:54
What.

Also, this strip shoots down two ships, one of which I was not on board with (for the same reasons as Marten portrays in this strip), one of which I was.

He brings up the intern thing a lot. I think it'd hold more water if the interns weren't pretty much unofficially higher up the totem pole then he is. Marten does not wield the power in the library. He can't coerce interns to sleep with him and they can't try and get special treatment dating him. There's no real ethical conflict there.

So each time he says it it does feel more like backing down on Claire or sinking the ship or whatever than a legitimate thing, even if that isn't the case.

He brings it up a lot for someone who isn't interested in any interns.

I really hope this is readl but on the other hand I think it's a little bizarre even for QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 29 Jul 2014, 12:30
How do we know the interns aren't paid? (Is it stated in a comic I forgot about?)

That's what I was thinking. I worked a handful of jobs on-campus that were subsidized by my financial aid (including in the library).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 29 Jul 2014, 12:33
Dude, you're an ADULT.

Missing any christmas presents you should have gotten as a child ?

THEN GO BUY THEM NOW !!!

(Duh)

(Keeping in mind he'd probably be able to afford a truckload of them.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 29 Jul 2014, 12:40
I echo the sentiments of wondering if the last panel was meant to be imagination or not. Darn you, Jeph!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 29 Jul 2014, 13:33
Dude, you're an ADULT.

Missing any christmas presents you should have gotten as a child ?

THEN GO BUY THEM NOW !!!

(Duh)

(Keeping in mind he'd probably be able to afford a truckload of them.)

Maybe not: a lot of the old GI Joe toys go for silly prices at auction these days and the aircraft carrier set was one if the largest, rarest, and most expensive when new; I shudder to think what four decades of inflation and fanboy nostalgia have added to the price.
Just be thankful it's not part of the Original GI Joe line at least.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Jul 2014, 13:47
There's one complete, in the box (although used) on eBay currently for $1999.99. Incomplete ones go for considerably less.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 29 Jul 2014, 13:55
That is actually less than I would have expected. I was thinking at least $5000.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 29 Jul 2014, 15:02
That last panel: I've revisited the page several times today, and I'm now quite comfortable with the idea that it's Marten's imagination. It's too weird to be real even for Emily, and it's not quite the sort of thing Hanners would have dreamed up except in a nightmare.

(preparing to be shot down in flames by whatever's revealed in the next comic...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 29 Jul 2014, 15:02
Why should he have higher ambitions? We've never heard him express a desire to do a particular job (not a realistic one anyway). All he really wants to do is play music, and a higher-pressure job would reduce his opportunity to do that, not increase it. Everything that he's said he wants to change about his life can be achieved as easily or more easily in his current job.

I respect people's choices in life, but realistically, his situation is not tenable long term.  The points aren't really touched on in-comic, but we can extrapolate several things:

First, his job isn't secure.  As others have pointed out, he only got it because Tai offered it and he will likely only hold it as long as she's employed there.  It's questionable as to whether the library needs to pay someone to do what Marten does, or if interns/student workers/volunteers could do it just as well. 

Second, he has no room to advance.  He does not have a degree in Library Science or anything remotely related, and is, on paper, unqualified to do much of the running of the library.  There's no way he would ever be promoted, even if he *does* manage to survive past Tai graduating. 

Third, the job is just barely meeting his needs.  As others pointed out, he lives frugally and doesn't require much, but that could change at any point, and any major life or medical crisis is going to be catastrophic.  He mentioned wiping out his savings and then some to buy the 8-string; it's unknown if the job allows him to save any significant amount, but I doubt it, even with his lifestyle.  In addition, he likely has no retirement package or means of investing in one (a serious consideration, even for someone in their 20's), and if he has any kind of health or life insurance with the job (unlikely, but possible), it's going to be the most bare bones package available.  As a subset of that, he may be able to subsist on that himself, but if he ever wants a wife or child, he's going to need to seek out more gainful employment to be able to support a family in any meaningful way (I'm aware that his wife could work as well to support a family, and I'm not espousing a 50's housewife view, but if she does work at a more meaningful job with better compensation, resentment is definitely going to grow if Marten were to choose to keep drifting as he has).

Fourth, he's being left behind.  I know he has a music degree of some sort, but any other skills/knowledge/certifications he may have gained through college are growing increasingly out of date.  The longer he spends drifting in the library, the harder he's going to have to work to catch up if and when he's no longer employed there.

In short, I'm not espousing the view that everyone should be rich or pursue massive goals.  People should pursue what makes them happy.  But Marten is going to have to realize at some point that even if he just wants to make music and hang out, he needs to strive for at least a little better employment to build and maintain the infrastructure that allows him to chill out and play his guitar.  It's hard to relax and play your guitar when you had to sell it to make rent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 29 Jul 2014, 16:25
How much longer can Northampton's endless summer last?
A summer can last for 595 years. We just need to find out which loop they are in.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 29 Jul 2014, 17:12
I suspect that Marten does like her, but isn't quite sure how to feel about it.

Really?

He sounds indiferent to me.  I mean, if I really liked a girl, the last thing I would think was "oh shit, well she's an intern so I guess I can't date her.  Oh well!"  I'd think, "just another obstacle...I WILL make this work".

But that's me, and not Marten, so yeah.
Yeah, but you aren't Jeph's walking punchline.  I think Marten at least finds her interesting.  She appears to be pretty (her face is in proportion and her body proportions are in the 'attractive' range).  She's not a mundie by any stretch of the imagination, so he doesn't have to worry about finding out she's into scrapbooking, The View, and her bible study group. And he hasn't had a steady relationship pretty much since Dora and He imploded.  He doesn't have to explain his job state, which can be a deal-breaker for goal-setting women in their late 20's.  But he's drifting into the "I can't win, why even try" mindset that leaves many of us paralyzed.
I'm kind of hoping the last panel is real life (its the same shirt he's wearing), but probably not. 
Hah. I just realized I called it 'real life'.  Anyway.  I think an Emily/Marten ship would be cute as baby salamanders.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 29 Jul 2014, 17:29
I think she's great.  She's just weird enough to shake up his mope-mode and the internship won't last forever so any perceived conflict of interest won't last forever (and neither will Marten's job there).

Besides, she's probably not as weird as illustrated - just a little quirky.  Everyone knew the quirky girl who became director of an art gallery or a non-profit or director of a musicians collective or something "Ah, she channeled the weirdness into something parlayable." 

Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sluthy on 29 Jul 2014, 17:48
Don't forget that this isn't the first time (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2287) Marten's misinterpreted Emily's intentions.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 29 Jul 2014, 18:44
Incoming doom, repeat, incoming doom spotted at 10 o' clock.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: quix0te on 29 Jul 2014, 19:14
Oh no.  She might do something rude at Coffee Of Doom. 
Or, you know, ship coals to Newcastle.
Or ice to the arctic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 29 Jul 2014, 19:16
Why should he have higher ambitions? We've never heard him express a desire to do a particular job (not a realistic one anyway). All he really wants to do is play music, and a higher-pressure job would reduce his opportunity to do that, not increase it. Everything that he's said he wants to change about his life can be achieved as easily or more easily in his current job.

I respect people's choices in life, but realistically, his situation is not tenable long term.  The points aren't really touched on in-comic, but we can extrapolate several things:
[snip]
But Marten is going to have to realize at some point that even if he just wants to make music and hang out, he needs to strive for at least a little better employment to build and maintain the infrastructure that allows him to chill out and play his guitar. It's hard to relax and play your guitar when you had to sell it to make rent.

Yeah, he might as well start a webcomic.

[rimshot]

He's in his (early?) 20s ... still got a lot of living to do before he *really* has to start worrying about all that (valid) stuff I left out of your quote.

In-comic he's probably been there at the library about 18 months? maybe? Possibly not long enough to be considered for a cost-of-living raise. If he were in his thirties and was still "going nowhere at the library" then it might be cause for concern.

All of that said, we don't really know from canon what his actual pay is, benefits are and career opportunities are at the library. Just being around a college like that and showing that you can do work, any kind of work, can get you opportunities you might otherwise not be qualified for. This year's library dude might be next year's admissions clerk might be next decade's housing honcho.

Plus, while university jobs don't necessarily pay well, even relatively low-end Staff positions can still have significant benefits (free tuition for your kids, use of university facilities, etc) and can be comfortable places to live out a low-to-medium stress career leading to early(ish) retirement with pension and benefits.

I guess I'm saying that his situation might be more tenable (less untenable?) than your extrapolations indicate, if he adjusts his expectations.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 29 Jul 2014, 19:17
I see no way that this can end well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 29 Jul 2014, 19:30
If May doesn't buy something every 10 minutes it's loitering.  Dale can call the cops and May can go back to robo-jail for violating her parole.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Jul 2014, 19:39
If May doesn't buy something every 10 minutes it's loitering.
Wait, what? Have you never been to a coffee shop? Also god damn, Dale, what a shitty thing to say.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Throg on 29 Jul 2014, 20:12
Hoping that all these plots collide horribly at Coffee of Doom.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Baphomet on 29 Jul 2014, 20:39
She's playing video games.

I wonder what introducing anthroPCs to the player base has done to things like speedrunning communities.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 29 Jul 2014, 21:04
What happens will depend on who is on shift.

If Hannelore is there we might see a giant freakout when May brings up or does something that triggers Hanners. 

If Cosette is there she'll probably trip over something and dump coffee all over May, with unpredictable results.

If Faye is there we might see a fight when May says the wrong thing and pushes her insecurity buttons, especially given Sven's behaviour.

If Sven shows up he and May may end up in bed together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Jul 2014, 22:05
My imagination fails at contemplating what would happen if Emily and May meet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 29 Jul 2014, 22:16
What I want to see is May and Pintsize in action together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 29 Jul 2014, 23:23
My imagination fails at contemplating what would happen if Emily and May meet.
Thats simple, a new singularity forms. A black hole of chaos that will be the end of all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 29 Jul 2014, 23:36
What I want to see is May and Pintsize in action together.

I don't think May would like Pintsize. But hoo nose?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Jul 2014, 00:51
If May doesn't buy something every 10 minutes it's loitering.
Wait, what? Have you never been to a coffee shop? Also god damn, Dale, what a shitty thing to say.

Shitty, maybe, but... inaccurate?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 30 Jul 2014, 01:25
My imagination fails at contemplating what would happen if Emily and May meet.
Emily will have questions (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428) for May.
As Emily is not in May's nice_list.txt file, I guess there will be Mayhem (got that? :-D).
If Faye is there we might see a fight when May says the wrong thing and pushes her insecurity buttons, especially given Sven's behaviour.
Finally, Faye may have met her equal (or superior) in the ability to insult. We will see an exchange of insults and dirty words, resulting in mutual respect and friendship.
If May doesn't buy something every 10 minutes it's loitering.
Marten is loitering at CoD all the time. Besides, May would not drink coffee. I guess CoD has a special menu for robots/androids/anthroPCs:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 30 Jul 2014, 01:36
Hoping that all these plots collide horribly at Coffee of Doom.

Perhaps. Who knows? Maybe we're actually working our way towards the Canon Ending As Written By Jeph (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1620)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 03:33
If May doesn't buy something every 10 minutes it's loitering.
Wait, what? Have you never been to a coffee shop? Also god damn, Dale, what a shitty thing to say.

Shitty, maybe, but... inaccurate?
I didn't say inaccurate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 30 Jul 2014, 03:45
If May doesn't buy something every 10 minutes it's loitering.
Wait, what? Have you never been to a coffee shop? Also god damn, Dale, what a shitty thing to say.

Shitty, maybe, but... inaccurate?
I didn't say inaccurate.

I know, that's why I asked.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylentknight on 30 Jul 2014, 05:15
Faye has a blow torch in the basement...just saying. :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 30 Jul 2014, 05:47
Finally, Faye may have met her equal (or superior) in the ability to insult. We will see an exchange of insults and dirty words, resulting in mutual respect and friendship.
That's what I'm looking forward to: May and Faye competing to out-sass each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Jul 2014, 06:45
Actually, Faye and May have met before, and they seemed to get along, after May mooned her. Faye is in fact one of the few people who have seen May when she was playing virtual companion to Dale. I honestly think the two will get along famously, much to the distress of everyone else.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 30 Jul 2014, 06:49
Is she still like a barbie doll? Will she show Faye?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 07:11
Is she still like a barbie doll? Will she show Faye?

If her chassis is cheap enough that the hair stays bent (as mentioned in 2730), then I don't imagine that realistic naughty bits are a standard feature. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 30 Jul 2014, 07:20
What I want to see is May and Pintsize in action together.
Thus ends the Age of Man.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 30 Jul 2014, 08:11
Okay, I'm almost positive I'm missing something now.  I keep seeing references to a Steve/Marten conversation regarding Emily, but the only one I found by going back was Marten and Tai talking.  Can someone...help?  Please?   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 30 Jul 2014, 08:40
Okay, I'm almost positive I'm missing something now.  I keep seeing references to a Steve/Marten conversation regarding Emily, but the only one I found by going back was Marten and Tai talking.  Can someone...help?  Please?   :psyduck:
This was commented earlier in this week's thread.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 30 Jul 2014, 09:07
mundie

What does this mean?

Hannelore is almost definitely working; Jeph expressed delight about drawing her in-strip again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Jul 2014, 09:20
mundie=Mundane.

See also 'ordinary person' and 'not cool like me'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 30 Jul 2014, 09:34
... the fuck
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 30 Jul 2014, 12:30
She's not a mundie by any stretch of the imagination, so he doesn't have to worry about finding out she's into scrapbooking, The View, and her bible study group.
Now I'm hoping Emily is into scrapbooking, The View, and her bible study group.

Mundies can declare their monopoly, but they cannot enforce it!

(What's The View?)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Jul 2014, 13:34
An American daytime TV talk show on ABC featuring a handful of celebrity women, usually centered around Barbara Walters.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 30 Jul 2014, 15:08
What happens will depend on who is on shift.

If Hannelore is there we might see a giant freakout when May brings up or does something that triggers Hanners. 

If Cosette is there she'll probably trip over something and dump coffee all over May, with unpredictable results.

If Faye is there we might see a fight when May says the wrong thing and pushes her insecurity buttons, especially given Sven's behaviour.

If Sven shows up he and May may end up in bed together.

If it's the Afternoon Shift, it could be Penelope.....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 30 Jul 2014, 15:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOOoiQwSd5I
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 30 Jul 2014, 17:26
My imagination fails at contemplating what would happen if Emily and May meet.
Thats simple, a new singularity forms. A black hole of chaos that will be the end of all.

There might be a chance of May start doing the straight man role around Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Jul 2014, 18:10
I suppose Hanners can deal with that reaction better than Clinton's reaction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 30 Jul 2014, 18:13
Let's just hope May doesn't go full-Clinton tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 18:14
Anyone else think it's kind of funny that May still wears the orange "I was in jail" pants? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 30 Jul 2014, 18:15
So I'm willing to hazard a guess as to what company May tried to embezzle the money from.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 30 Jul 2014, 18:18
Would Hanners freak out if May hugs her?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 30 Jul 2014, 18:24
I just remembered: Hannelore was very interested in meeting May (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2546).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 30 Jul 2014, 18:32
next day/question:

I can has jet fighter plz?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 18:37
So I'm willing to hazard a guess as to what company May tried to embezzle the money from.

I like the way you think, Zebs
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 30 Jul 2014, 18:39
I thought Hanners didn't mind shaking hands with robots...

And yeah, it seems likely that she had dealings with that company in the past. If she did steal money from them, then she was probably lucky to only end up in prison (http://www.questionablecontent.net/994).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 30 Jul 2014, 18:47
I feel like Hannerdad's robots would survive Hannermom's sharks trying to eat them.
In fact, Hannerdad probably designed his robots specifically with that in mind. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 30 Jul 2014, 18:53
Re: touching robots:
Just because they don't emit icky things doesn't mean they aren't contaminated, especially when they come from outside. Who knows what May has touched?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 30 Jul 2014, 19:06
Now I'm wondering what May did in her pre-prison life. If she was an employee of ECtech, then it's possible that May and Hannelore have met before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2297).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Jul 2014, 19:12
May wishes she was a giant invisible personnel carrier.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: speedchuck on 30 Jul 2014, 19:20
A summer can last for 595 years. We just need to find out which loop they are in.
Man. That'd be so much harder than watching the same episode of a show over and over again for 4 hours.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 30 Jul 2014, 19:31
Ellicott-Chatham Technology killed her father.

Dun dun dun!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Jul 2014, 19:56
May: "Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham, you killed my father. Prepare to die."
Hannelore: "No, that was my clone, not me!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 20:04
May: "Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham, you killed my father. Prepare to die."
Hannelore: "No, that was my clone, not me!"
What does it say for the weirdness levels in the comic that the actual existence of evil clones is a thing we readily accept?  Also the basket of mice and mating plumage from 2757.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Jul 2014, 20:29
May: "Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham, you killed my father. Prepare to die."
Hannelore: "No, that was my clone, not me!"
What does it say for the weirdness levels in the comic that the actual existence of evil clones is a thing we readily accept?  Also the basket of mice and mating plumage from 2757.
This is a comic that accepts the existence of a talking cursing dicksissel.

EDIT: That was for MoM.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 20:54
Buh?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 30 Jul 2014, 21:14
A summer can last for 595 years. We just need to find out which loop they are in.
Man. That'd be so much harder than watching the same episode of a show over and over again for 4 hours.
I guess they didn't had money to make all the loops. The book contains only the last loop.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Jul 2014, 21:52
The Whiskey Monster and I agree that all of you are being irrational!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 30 Jul 2014, 22:03
Somehow, I don't think May is as keen on this connection as Clinton was.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 30 Jul 2014, 22:22
I think she's just surprised.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 30 Jul 2014, 22:48
A summer can last for 595 years. We just need to find out which loop they are in.
Man. That'd be so much harder than watching the same episode of a show over and over again for 4 hours.
I guess they didn't had money to make all the loops. The book contains only the last loop.
Okay, what are you guys referencing?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Jul 2014, 22:50
Imagine 57 loops of 10,000 years or so...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 30 Jul 2014, 23:09
A summer can last for 595 years. We just need to find out which loop they are in.
Man. That'd be so much harder than watching the same episode of a show over and over again for 4 hours.
I guess they didn't had money to make all the loops. The book contains only the last loop.
Okay, what are you guys referencing?
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 30 Jul 2014, 23:10
Anyone else think it's kind of funny that May still wears the orange "I was in jail" pants?

They're not the same. The jail pants have a yellow stripe down the leg -- see Here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2711)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 30 Jul 2014, 23:31
Anyone else think it's kind of funny that May still wears the orange "I was in jail" pants?

They're not the same. The jail pants have a yellow stripe down the leg -- see Here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2711)

Hey now, we're talking about a comic where clothes can spontaneously change.  A missing stripe means little until it is conformed to be intentional.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 31 Jul 2014, 00:09
Would Hanners freak out if May hugs her?
Well, she freaked out when Momo hugged her (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2597), but only until Momo pointed out she was a robot. I guess Hanners considers robots to have less bodily fluids and germs than people do have.

The question now becomes how May will react, once she realizes they are not fucking with her. There are several possible scenarios:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 31 Jul 2014, 00:19
I don't think May was involved on that fraud. You don't give a robot to sharks. That one was an organic living being.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 31 Jul 2014, 00:41
I don't think May was involved on that fraud. You don't give a robot to sharks. That one was an organic living being.
You are probably right. She confessed to Dale she went to jail because of this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/2502) crime. She wanted to become a fighter jet.
(click to show/hide)
Still, she would need to buy fuel for that thing. Stealing $6.000.000 from Hannermom might help.

EDIT: I am sure Hannermom needs a fighter jet sometimes to enforce a business deal, and May would be happy to apply for the job. Let us hope Hanners is able to prevent this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 31 Jul 2014, 01:17
I find a bit weird that she didn't shake hands knowing May was an android. I do remember she freaked out about the hugh with Momo but I also remember her calming down after Momo pointing out she was an android.
So... yeah. I find it weird. But whatever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 31 Jul 2014, 01:37
She did know Momo first, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 31 Jul 2014, 01:41
Hmmm, that's a good point indeed. Didn't think of that. Thanks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 31 Jul 2014, 03:06
Also, it may be a reflexive response that she gives automatically before consciously processing who is offering.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: foolsguinea on 31 Jul 2014, 03:46
Obviously May is surprised that the scion of ECTech is working in a coffee shop, let alone with Dale.

Why is Hanners working at CoD again?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 31 Jul 2014, 04:09
Obviously May is surprised that the scion of ECTech is working in a coffee shop, let alone with Dale.

Why is Hanners working at CoD again?
Here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2280) is Hanners' own explanation. I suspect she was half joking (but I am not entirely sure). But the "interact with people" part is probably true, and part of her therapy. I would guess she has no need for the money she gets for her CoD job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 31 Jul 2014, 04:18
Wait a second, why does everyone assume Hanners is rich?
Sure, her parents are and she will be once she inherits her parents' company shares, but we know nothing about how much her parents support her financially right now. I am sure that she gets some support because you can't afford a nice appartment like hers on a part-time coffee shop job and probably her therapy and medication is quite expensive, too, but she might still want or need to earn something herself. Remember that before her coffee shop job, she had a business counting things for money.

Also, just being a rich kid* and expecting your parents to pay for everything you do is not a fulfilling life for some people. I think it's perfectly natural to want to have your own job and gain a little independence by earning your own money.

Edit: * Forgot the point that Hanners is not actually a kid anymore. She's at least 23 (citation needed). As an adult, you generally need to provide for yourself. It's nice of your parents to support you if they can and you need it, but you can't sit around and expect it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 31 Jul 2014, 04:26
I agree, Hanners almost certainly supports herself. She did get money from her mum, but that was as a paid employee not as a handout. I find it quite bizarre that people think a woman in her twenties would be supported by her parents as a default - I know a lot of people are in that position, but Hanners isn't. She's got at least one job and we've seen her working two others as well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 31 Jul 2014, 04:57
My assumption was that Hanners could not afford her apartment, therapy, medication, and nice clothes without some financial support from her parents. She got the CoD job later in the series. True, she counted things and did accounting fraud research for her mother (and got paid for that), but we have no indication she did that as a full-time job. The financial support from her mother might be camouflaged as a consultancy fee, but probably well above the real market value.

EDIT: Besides, her OCD issues makes it impossible for her to have a full-time job. Sometimes, she does not sleep for several days. At other times, she falls asleep wherever she is. Her phobias also contribute to her problems, I am impressed she is able to do a good part-time job at CoD. I guess the support and understanding from her friends and colleagues helps a lot. I guess most parents who have a child with physical or mental problems try to support them financially as best they can, even after they become adults.

Hanners may also own shares in ECTech, or be the beneficiary of a trust fund (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beneficiary_(trust)) set up for her, or have some other means of financial income.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 31 Jul 2014, 05:56
I agree, Hanners almost certainly supports herself. She did get money from her mum, but that was as a paid employee not as a handout. I find it quite bizarre that people think a woman in her twenties would be supported by her parents as a default - I know a lot of people are in that position, but Hanners isn't. She's got at least one job and we've seen her working two others as well.
I don't think it's that people assume that a woman in her twenties would be supported by her parents as a default.  I think it's that people assume that a woman in her twenties with billionaire parents would get at least a measure of financial support from her parents as a default.  Basically, I'd expect her to have come into a big honking trust fund when she came of age.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 31 Jul 2014, 06:03
Uh, this is a comic.

Its NOT realistic.

A child of billionaires will NOT care for itself because:

(a) The parents will want the child to take over their business, thus it will get first class education at places like Havard.

(b) The child needs 100% private security services 100% of the time, just like for example famous Hollywood stars. There IS a reason such stars earn millions per movie - its because otherwise they could neither afford the insane house prices in Hollywood nor the necessary private protection.

As a rule - the really rich people are born rich and die rich, and only get richer and richer in between.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 31 Jul 2014, 06:31
I hope E-C Technology didn't build and/or operate the robot jail.

On shaking hands; Momo has a plastic skin, but May is rocking the naked metal look, complete with potential germ-filled crevices in her hands.

I imagine Hannermom having her own private airforce, as well as her platoons of elite mercenaries. Possibly submarines too; it has the Bond-villain vibe. Hannerdad prefers not to get his hands dirty, but takes care of orbital surveillance, and bombardment (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2468). Oh, and killbots (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2135). I have always assumed that anyone foolish enough to threaten Hanners would regret it very much, very quickly. What, you think that a stealth airship (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2297) isn't permanently on station over Northampton?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 31 Jul 2014, 06:40
may has exposed joints, which suggests no skin (except for maybe on her face), but given that it's a cheap government issue shell, i'd expect her to be mostly plastic, rather than metal.

that said, a robot who's out & about in the world should have almost as many opportunities to pick up surface germs as a humans, & would probably wash their hands less frequently.

then again, trying to apply rationality & logic to hannelore's phobias is probably missing the point by a little bit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: drewdane on 31 Jul 2014, 09:10
I'm just having trouble with the fact that Hannelore doesn't shake hands, but she will sling a mop.  Does not compute.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 31 Jul 2014, 10:18
Are you kidding? When Hannelore works the cleaning supplies are probably disinfected regularly. The store has probably been cleaner since she's started working than it has been, ever. Except the spiders in the basement... I guess she just doesn't go down there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 31 Jul 2014, 10:29
They are very clean and sanitary spiders.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 31 Jul 2014, 10:34
My grandfather wasn't a billionaire, but he was a millionaire. My dad grew up poor. Your logic isn't infalliable here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 31 Jul 2014, 12:32
A John Varley character said once "Security you keep tripping over is just amateur gun-toting". She may have bodyguards so discreet she doesn't even know about them.

On the other hand a protection service with a good intelligence network should have intercepted Clinton before Marten had to intervene.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 31 Jul 2014, 12:54
Plot twist: Winslow actually has secret programming and capabilities to act as a bodyguard for Hanners. If she is threatened in his presence, he can 'mecha-hulk-out' and deal with most danger. For anything he can't handle... he has a satellite uplink direct to Station... Unfortunately her dad's clever plan is thwarted by the fact that Hanners leaves Winslow home all the time.

I would be surprised if Hannelore's mother didn't have a security firm quietly keeping an eye on her, and running background on people she interacts with. So the question now... how will she rate May? Harmless, threat or potentially useful?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 31 Jul 2014, 13:06
Plot twist: Winslow actually has secret programming and capabilities to act as a bodyguard for Hanners. If she is threatened in his presence, he can 'mecha-hulk-out' and deal with most danger. For anything he can't handle... he has a satellite uplink direct to Station... Unfortunately her dad's clever plan is thwarted by the fact that Hanners leaves Winslow home all the time.

I would be surprised if Hannelore's mother didn't have a security firm quietly keeping an eye on her, and running background on people she interacts with. So the question now... how will she rate May? Harmless, threat or potentially useful?

Either harmless or potentially useful. On one hand, that May got caught would probably take her down several pegs in Hannermom's estimation. On the other hand, when we last saw her, she didn't seem to have much in common with (or, to look at it from her viewpoint, much use for) Hannelore generally. In May, she would likely sense someone she could put to good use.* That's when we'd find out just how much May had learned from, or been changed by, her experience in Robot Jail.

*Sorry if this sounds cold and calculating, but I'm trying to see this situation from the character's POV.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 31 Jul 2014, 13:25
I imagine Hannermom having her own private airforce, as well as her platoons of elite mercenaries. Possibly submarines too; it has the Bond-villain vibe. Hannerdad prefers not to get his hands dirty, but takes care of orbital surveillance, and bombardment (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2468). Oh, and killbots (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2135). I have always assumed that anyone foolish enough to threaten Hanners would regret it very much, very quickly. What, you think that a stealth airship (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2297) isn't permanently on station over Northampton?
Wow. That was a lot more sinister than I imagined. Kudos :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 31 Jul 2014, 13:41
My grandfather wasn't a billionaire, but he was a millionaire. My dad grew up poor. Your logic isn't infalliable here.
I never said it was a universal truth.  I suggested it was a reasonable default assumption.  At the very least, it's a more reasonable (and different) assumption than that she'd be supported by her parents simply because she was a woman in her 20s.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 31 Jul 2014, 13:53
Actually I wouldn't think her parents would support her because she's in her 20s, but rather because she suffers from an array of mental illness that make holding down most jobs difficult if not impossible.  She works part time at the CoD with her friends, and she does or at least used to do work for her mother, tracking down number discrepancies and such. Working at CoD is more therapy than work though for her. And I doubt that most employers would be able to keep her around long. Dora is more understanding because she knows and likes Hannelore, so she's willing to give her slack when she has a near-psychotic break because she's been up four days straight, or has a major panic attack, or forgets her pants again and so on and so forth.

That said, it really doesn't seem like she has to worry about money. I imagine it is a combination of trust fund and shares in ECT. Her parents certainly watch out for her, but they are also giving her this space to grow. She did have a rather atypical childhood after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 31 Jul 2014, 14:05
Hannelore seems to be "crazy as hell and richer than the average Saudi prince", as well as being "from friggin' space".   (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=665)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 31 Jul 2014, 14:13
I don't think we have seen Hanners have sleep issues lately, have we?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jul 2014, 14:29
It's gonna be interesting to see how they interact.


And whether Hanners was the reason she was in Robot Jail.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 31 Jul 2014, 14:31
And as always I'm surprised to find Faye wearing a German soccer shirt in the comic you linked. The logo is definitely the logo of the German national team:
(http://newsnetz-blog.ch/zumrundenleder/files/2011/10/dfb_adler.jpg)
The color was the color scheme of the away jerseys at the time:
(http://img.webme.com/pic/b/bayer-04-leverkusen-trikots/17.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jul 2014, 14:32
(http://forums.questionablecontent.net/Smileys/qc/psyduck.gif) 41 (62.1%)

(http://forums.questionablecontent.net/Smileys/qc/doge-wow.png)  25 (37.9%
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 31 Jul 2014, 16:16
Darn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: WAYF on 31 Jul 2014, 16:52
I mean, props to the people who animated Weird Al Yankovic's "Word Crimes" for referencing everyone's favourite shiba inu, but other than that... yeah, Psyduck any day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 31 Jul 2014, 17:09
Darn.

Don't like dogs.  Sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 Jul 2014, 17:16
(http://forums.questionablecontent.net/Smileys/qc/psyduck.gif) 41 (62.1%)

(http://forums.questionablecontent.net/Smileys/qc/doge-wow.png)  25 (37.9%
Hey! Who said you could change it?

(Thank you)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 31 Jul 2014, 17:51
may has exposed joints, which suggests no skin (except for maybe on her face), but given that it's a cheap government issue shell, i'd expect her to be mostly plastic, rather than metal.

that said, a robot who's out & about in the world should have almost as many opportunities to pick up surface germs as a humans, & would probably wash their hands less frequently.

then again, trying to apply rationality & logic to hannelore's phobias is probably missing the point by a little bit.

On the other hand (no pun intended) bare plastic doesn't offer much nutrients for bacterial growth. Also they could come with anti-bacterial properties included since bacterial film can be a problem for non-living beings.

My assumption was that Hanners could not afford her apartment, therapy, medication, and nice clothes without some financial support from her parents. She got the CoD job later in the series. True, she counted things and did accounting fraud research for her mother (and got paid for that), but we have no indication she did that as a full-time job. The financial support from her mother might be camouflaged as a consultancy fee, but probably well above the real market value.
I think it would make sense that a semi-utopic society with sentient robots would have free healthcare.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 31 Jul 2014, 18:12
Somehow, I don't think May is as keen on this connection as Clinton was.

.... you were saying?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 31 Jul 2014, 18:17
Plot twist: Winslow actually has secret programming and capabilities to act as a bodyguard for Hanners. If she is threatened in his presence, he can 'mecha-hulk-out' and deal with most danger. For anything he can't handle... he has a satellite uplink direct to Station... Unfortunately her dad's clever plan is thwarted by the fact that Hanners leaves Winslow home all the time.

I would be surprised if Hannelore's mother didn't have a security firm quietly keeping an eye on her, and running background on people she interacts with. So the question now... how will she rate May? Harmless, threat or potentially useful?
Every robot could have a hidden function for that. If Hanners is threatened all robots in 100 meters would come to protect her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 31 Jul 2014, 18:19
Interesting.


Either harmless or potentially useful. On one hand, that May got caught would probably take her down several pegs in Hannermom's estimation. On the other hand, when we last saw her, she didn't seem to have much in common with (or, to look at it from her viewpoint, much use for) Hannelore generally. In May, she would likely sense someone she could put to good use.* That's when we'd find out just how much May had learned from, or been changed by, her experience in Robot Jail.

*Sorry if this sounds cold and calculating, but I'm trying to see this situation from the character's POV.

I suspect May's reaction here may take her up several pegs in Beatrice's estimation. "Kill anyone who messes with Hannelore" is an attitude she would definitely approve of.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 31 Jul 2014, 18:22
Well, this does solve any future Clinton problems.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 31 Jul 2014, 18:27
This is a comic that accepts the existence of a talking cursing dicksissel.

He's talking about the type of bird Yelling Bird is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 31 Jul 2014, 18:37
Yeah, but he's not in the actual comic itself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 31 Jul 2014, 19:17
I did not see this coming, but it totally makes sense.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 31 Jul 2014, 20:08
One way or another, this arc will end with May getting arrested for parole violation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 31 Jul 2014, 20:17
If the daughter of the "God of AI" is happily working in a coffee shop, then this might change May's perspective on her own job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 31 Jul 2014, 21:21
Nah, Hanners is at least allowed to insert strange objects into the orifices of rude customers, even if she'd never do such a thing.  May is probably a bit more restricted in her behaviour, and I'm sure she'd rather be a killbot rather than follow the polite rules of society.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 31 Jul 2014, 21:29
It appears that, much llike Walky of Willis's spinoff comic Dumbing of Age, May does not do "appropriate" (http://www.dumbingofage.com/comics/2014-08-01-comewith.png).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 31 Jul 2014, 21:49
May: Let me be your bodyguard, and you can be my long lost pal. I can call you Betty, and Betty when you call me, you can call me Al... [pennywhistle solo]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 31 Jul 2014, 22:07
May: Let me be your bodyguard, and you can be my long lost pal. I can call you Betty, and Betty when you call me, you can call me Al... [pennywhistle solo]

Don't know about bodyguard, but I could see the two of them as friends. Hanners tends to be pretty accepting while also not taking any crap from anybody. If May can't get along with her, that'd say a lot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 31 Jul 2014, 22:08
Okay, who saw this protective behavior coming? *leaves hand firmly down*

Makes me go awwww.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 31 Jul 2014, 23:29
QC is set in a different universe (I suppose all fiction technically is)  but I'm now fairly convinced the only significant points of divergence between it and ours are that  the QC verse has Beatrice Chatham and John Ellicott Chatham, and that they met.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jul 2014, 23:39
At least she doesn't want to be her Transporter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 01 Aug 2014, 00:16
Wouldn't that mean that Winslow got mad braggin rights? Being the AnthroPC of the "AI God's" daughter? And Pintsize too, by association?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 01 Aug 2014, 01:02
May is experiencing an epiphany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(feeling)) with deep religious significance for her. She has just met her God's daughter. Just imagine, you meet Jesus at your local coffee shop? (OK, some baristas may look like Jesus, but they probably are not Him.)

Time to talk about AI religion (btw, is "AI" an acceptable common term for robots/androids/AnthroPCs/AIs?). I would assume there are several religious denominations within the AI community. May's denomination seems to revere John Ellicott-Chatham (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/John_Ellicott-Chatham) (Hannerdad) as their God, as he was the inventor of true AI. Clinton (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Clinton) (although Human, mostly, sort of) may belong to the same denomination. On the other hand, Pintsize, Momo, and Winslow seem not to regard Hanners as anything more than a friend; so I guess they may belong to another denomination where Hannerdad might be respected for his achievements, but he is definitely not their God.

I remember Emily and Momo were talking about robot religion (archive-fu at work) - ah, here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2465). Momo quote:
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There is room for belief in a greater power, and some of us do choose to believe in such a force.

So, what happens now? Hanners appears ready to summon a killer droid, unless the situation defuses. If Hanners decides May is not a threat, she may relax, but she definitely does not want to be revered as God's daughter. I guess May will relax after a while, and hopefully become Hanners' friend rather than an acolyte.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 01 Aug 2014, 01:57
AI trivia: See Jeph's comments in this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1996) strip. I guess AIs, when created, come in a range of powers and abilities (possibly a Gaussian distribution). Less powerful AIs are probably not victims of discrimination, they just choose simpler careers (like becoming toasters). The "average" AI may choose to become an AnthroPC or Idoru model, and become human companions. More powerful AIs may run weapons systems or power plants. The most powerful AI in existence appears to be Station (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/The_Space_Station), he is revered by the other AIs both for his intellect and his daily interaction with Hannerdad.

Pintsize was sad because Marten did not take him along (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2169) when he visited the Space Station. He would have liked to talk to Station (about butts, of course). But if Marten had tried to take him along, I guess Pintsize would have been effectively detained (and possibly annihilated for security reasons) by Station security.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 01 Aug 2014, 02:16
Perhaps the Pintsize who likes to talk about butts and weird porn is a masquerade.

He demonstrated better reasoning before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somebody on 01 Aug 2014, 05:11
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1975
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Aug 2014, 05:41
Meh. We still have three years to go.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 01 Aug 2014, 05:56
For that matter, we don't know that May actually does worship John Ellicott-Chatham.

I'm getting the impression that AIs respect him, but some would likely consider him a "mere" ancestor, whereas others worship him as a god. If that's the case, I suspect that that may actually be a huge debate in the AI community - whether JE-C is a god or not. Essentially, the schism in the AI community wouldn't be between who the actual god is, with atheism being on the side, it'd be between atheistic and theistic viewpoints of JE-C.

And, in that case, someone like May could easily casually refer to him as "the god of AI" in a context like the one presented in #2760 (one where AIs could make pilgrimages to Coffee of Doom) without actually believing in JE-C as a god. Basically, if there is a god, a majority of AIs would agree that it's JE-C.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 01 Aug 2014, 06:08
I'm pretty confused as to why any AI is supposed to view the inventor of AIs as "god".

Obviously he's just another ordinary human.

I mean of course he's above average intelligent and all, and of course AIs would be gratious and stuff, but they wouldnt view him as anything else but another human being.

Nobody considers other people a deity unless that person actually gave the impression of being able to break the laws of reality, like physics, medicine, and beyond (like the ability to raise dead people).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 01 Aug 2014, 06:16
All I know is that if this is about to turn into another "Hannelore and her parent(s)" arc, I'd be super happy with that.  Those are always interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 01 Aug 2014, 06:32
I think it's probably more May being her usual "expressive" self. Now I have no doubt that, if it was Hannersdad's team, or the man himself, personally, that triggered the singularity and effectively created the AI as a species there might be an AI or two with religious inclination towards him, but I expect it's more of an interest in akin to meeting one's estranged parent. This person who is so fundamental to your existence, who you would not exist without, who wouldn't want to meet them? Probably without the feelings of abandonment human children in similar situations feel mind you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Aug 2014, 07:32
Ahh, the point I was about to make, thank you.

Ancestor worship is a thing among many carbon-based people. QC AIs seem to have a lot in common with us emotionally.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 01 Aug 2014, 08:44
Somehow, I don't think May is as keen on this connection as Clinton was.

.... you were saying?
Still, if May's right about how big of a thing it would be if it got out that Hanners was working at the coffee house, props to Clinton for being showing more discretion than one might have expected.  Presumably the clue by four that was applied after he snapped the picture helped.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 01 Aug 2014, 11:53
Wouldn't that mean that Winslow got mad braggin rights? Being the AnthroPC of the "AI God's" daughter? And Pintsize too, by association?

One would think that, given Pintsize's normal proclivities that Hanner's job would have already have found it's way to an AI faith site, or be on a webcam
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 01 Aug 2014, 14:20
Probably most people are not aware of Hanners existence. I mean, how many people know how many kids bill gates had without googling? What would be your reaction if you met Bill Gates son delivering a Pizza?

Probably most people don't even think about if John Ellicott-Chatham have a dauhter or son, the ones who think about it probably assume she or he would work with him in the station or in some high rank in a big business. The idea of the Daughter of the most powerful couple in the world working in a small coffee shop should be absurd to most people and dismissed quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Aug 2014, 19:01
On a completely separate note: I won't be able to make next week's WCDT, due to the high likelihood that I won't have net access this weekend (I work, and am highly likely to be forced to work extra shifts due to others on vacation/holiday).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ischaemia on 02 Aug 2014, 09:07
In the third panel, am I assuming too much when I read/perceived the color of May's irises as a processing element of some kind? I realise it miiiight just be a minute error in coloring, but if not, a pretty interesting mechanic in which to convey an idea of what goes on in AI brains. (I thought back, briefly, to the .gif strip where Momo is continually changing appearance, but can't recall if her irises change there).

Also, similarly to bhtooefr's insights, I don't think the fact that May used the term "god" necessarily implies worship of any kind. For one, it might be significant that it's not capitalised (many religious factions would instead use "[capital-G-]God") and instead just a blanket term for someone widely regarded as the progenitor of something. I might be coloring this with my own perceptions and experiences, however.

The idea itself seems a bit daunting, thinking of Coffee of Doom as a location for some quasi-Hajj for AI and mechanized types. It's not as if Hanners is the progenitor herself, though, so I don't see how that's marketable, I guess. Then again, there's people like Clinton (who maybe wanted to keep good things to  himself??? who knows).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 02 Aug 2014, 10:00
Welcome, new person!

I'm pretty sure the thing with May's eyes is just a coloration error. I wouldn't read too much into it.

And having grown up Catholic, I can testify that in some real-world religions anything even remotely connected to anyone or anything holy is potential fodder for a shrine of some kind. So it isn't at all farfetched for CoD to become a pilgrimage site (the Creator's daughter sanctified it with her presence!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 02 Aug 2014, 10:43
Time to talk about AI religion (btw, is "AI" an acceptable common term for robots/androids/AnthroPCs/AIs?).
Would those adherents be called… AI-theists?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 02 Aug 2014, 11:29
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 02 Aug 2014, 13:40
For that matter, we don't know that May actually does worship John Ellicott-Chatham.
May's statement could mean any of the following:
- She has religious feelings towards Hannerdad and considers him God. Not in the "almighty" sense but in the "creator" sense.
- She has no religious feelings herself, but knows other AIs have.
- Hannerdad is an eminent figure and worshipped throughout Androidity, but the "god" moniker is only figurative, like some rock stars might be called "guitar gods".

Has anyone already pointed out possible parallels to the religion of the Robots of Gunnerkrigg Court? They, too, revere an engineer as "Angel".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 02 Aug 2014, 16:51
Still, if May's right about how big of a thing it would be if it got out that Hanners was working at the coffee house, props to Clinton for being showing more discretion than one might have expected.  Presumably the clue by four that was applied after he snapped the picture helped.

We've already seen how protective Clinton is toward Claire. It's not too much of a stretch that he could be similarly protective of Hanners, or at least cognizant enough of the potential for problems if her presence there were widely known that he keeps his yap shut about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 02 Aug 2014, 18:54
Still, if May's right about how big of a thing it would be if it got out that Hanners was working at the coffee house, props to Clinton for being showing more discretion than one might have expected.  Presumably the clue by four that was applied after he snapped the picture helped.

We've already seen how protective Clinton is toward Claire. It's not too much of a stretch that he could be similarly protective of Hanners, or at least cognizant enough of the potential for problems if her presence there were widely known that he keeps his yap shut about it.

Um, the first thing he did upon meeting Hanners was to snap a photo that he was going to post on some web forum to be the envy of his geeky friends. Perhaps the clue-by-four promptly administered by the CoD gang made a significant change in his attitude, but I doubt it was such a huge epiphany that he'd refrain from bragging to his geek friends anyway... just that he wouldn't post any pictures.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 02 Aug 2014, 19:33
I might be in the minority in regards to this, but May is creeping me out a little bit. Even Clinton didn't creep me out.... (He did make me want to stuff him into a small cupboard and lock the door forever, but that's another matter....)

And yeah, it might be because May might literally not have that mental filter, but for all the joking, I can't help but feel that this story arc might take a darker turn before it finishes.

I certainly hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 03 Aug 2014, 07:06
Time to talk about AI religion (btw, is "AI" an acceptable common term for robots/androids/AnthroPCs/AIs?).
Would those adherents be called… AI-theists?
Not sure whether that's a pun or a serious term.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 03 Aug 2014, 07:13
On this forum, standard rule is 'always assume it's a pun'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2014, 07:16
And never assume it's serious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 03 Aug 2014, 07:21
On this forum, standard rule is 'always assume it's a pun'
Warning: A "That's the joke" meme will be all too appropriate a response.

The reason why I'm all mixed up is mainly because a theist is someone with a belief in some higher entity, where an atheist believes there is no such a thing. If someone places AIs as a higher entity, then the term makes sense, but if you assume it a pun for 'atheist', it doesn't make much sense, as I can see AIs valuing religion to some degree (particularly, enough to respect its presence, and likely think it intended to "retreat from a bunch of grim reminders").

Thus, my post.

Also, taking a couple of fun posts seriously can be fun in itself. =P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2014, 07:33
It kind of works, if AI believe that the highest entity is an AI, then they wouldn't believe in any higher power than the most powerful AI, making them indeed AItheists and atheists.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2756-2760 (28 July-1 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 03 Aug 2014, 15:35
What now?


Faye is outsnarked by May (Cue Faye wielding The Stopsign of Doom) .......... 6 (14%)
Marten is attracted to May (Weirder things have happened) .......... 4 (9.3%)
Cosette trips with a full Caraffe into May - Sparks ensue .......... 2 (4.7%)
Dora hires May and replaces everyone else with her .......... 3 (7%)
Dale opens a Popcorn Consession in CoD .......... 0 (0%)
Spathe Ham with Waffles and Spathe Eggs .......... 0 (0%)
Purple Monkey Dishwasher .......... 0 (0%)
Hanners and May start the Robot Wars .......... 1 (2.3%)
Hanners and May become friends (Oh God, Oh God) .......... 20 (46.5%)
Whatever Jeph does, it'll be unexpected .......... 7 (16.3%)