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Title: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 02 Aug 2014, 20:19
Aww yeah, gettin ahead of the curve, as jwhouk stated they weren't gonna be able to do it this week.

SOMEONE PLEASE COME UP WITH A NEW POLL, OKAY?


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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 02 Aug 2014, 21:58
Well, that was kind of a nice way to start off a new week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 02 Aug 2014, 22:53
Is this real life?
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 02 Aug 2014, 23:15
For some reason, that pic reminds me much more of EoE than it does QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 03 Aug 2014, 14:46
This week on QC...the robots rise up against humanity!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 03 Aug 2014, 15:38
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, can you do the Fandango?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 03 Aug 2014, 16:15
Spathemian Hamsody
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 03 Aug 2014, 18:31
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, can you do the Fandango?
Thunderbolts and Lightning! Very very frightening to me!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 03 Aug 2014, 19:08
Sad piano always wins. Also yay May being nice (sort of) and Dale shut up and go make a mediocre latte.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 03 Aug 2014, 20:39
In the meantime, hear an egotistical forumite (yo) cover the greatest song in the world  :emotrex:

What, no vocals?   :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 03 Aug 2014, 21:05
Protective May? Nice!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 03 Aug 2014, 21:39
In the meantime, hear an egotistical forumite (yo) cover the greatest song in the world  :emotrex:

What, no vocals?   :angel:

I recorded it live at busking, and the vocal track was all ruined by crying babies in the background..
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 03 Aug 2014, 21:48
Dale be like "Fuck this, I'm out"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 03 Aug 2014, 22:42
The assassins would be courtesy of HannerMom. HannerDad supplies space-based weaponry (not to mention the orbital bombardment app (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2468))
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 03 Aug 2014, 23:16
I love the humanizing effects of May's concerns for people's privacy and her ability to empathize/sympathize with other people.  First her and Marigold, now her and Hanners.  It's rapidly changing May from a hilariously abrasive source of casual verbal abuse into a well rounded character. 

Is "humanizing" an offensive term in a universe with artificial intelligence?  What's the new term?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 03 Aug 2014, 23:19
Personalized? 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 03 Aug 2014, 23:30
Well, personalized already means something.  It could be taken to mean adding flames and a spoiler to a stock chassis.  Which would admittedly be pretty cool.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Aug 2014, 23:46
Here's an interesting line of nonsense.

What if Marten is a deep-cover bodyguard?

He never showed any capability for violence before meeting Hannelore. The monk and the souffle pan and the Vespavenger confrontation came later if memory serves. When Clinton got weird, Marten deviated from his usual passive non-confrontational style.

The point of a bodyguard like Marten would be that nobody would ever think he's a bodyguard. Maybe he agreed to be deep-conditioned when he took the job, so that he's not even consciously aware of being part of Hannelore's security, which helps him maintain his cover.

The money from the bodyguard job may explain why he's no longer complaining about his student debts, as he was when he met Jimbo. It's laundered through his library job. Tai was so willing to hire him because E-C Industries was going to pick up the cost.

This almost hangs together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 03 Aug 2014, 23:47
Or is this just fantasy?
    - 6 (26.1%)
Caught in a landslide,
    - 1 (4.3%)
No escape from reality.
    - 1 (4.3%)
Open your eyes,
    - 0 (0%)
Look up to the skies and seeeeeee
    - 4 (17.4%)
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
    - 1 (4.3%)
Because I'm easy come, easy go,
    - 0 (0%)
Little high, little low,
    - 0 (0%)
Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter, to meeeeeee.
    - 5 (21.7%)
(To me.....) *sad piano*
    - 5 (21.7%
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 04 Aug 2014, 00:58
Here's an interesting line of nonsense.

What if Marten is a deep-cover bodyguard?

He never showed any capability for violence before meeting Hannelore. The monk and the souffle pan and the Vespavenger confrontation came later if memory serves. When Clinton got weird, Marten deviated from his usual passive non-confrontational style.

The point of a bodyguard like Marten would be that nobody would ever think he's a bodyguard. Maybe he agreed to be deep-conditioned when he took the job, so that he's not even consciously aware of being part of Hannelore's security, which helps him maintain his cover.

The money from the bodyguard job may explain why he's no longer complaining about his student debts, as he was when he met Jimbo. It's laundered through his library job. Tai was so willing to hire him because E-C Industries was going to pick up the cost.

This almost hangs together.

...  :meh:

I kinda want this to be true.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Aug 2014, 01:29
The only super secret gadget we have actually seen around Hanners, is the stealth airship (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2296) that gave Hanners a ride to Emily's summer cottage. As somebody mentioned earlier, it may be permanently stationed above Northampton, watching over Hanners, ready to defend her. It might also contain a platoon of hunter-killer droids (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2135), ready for action.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 04 Aug 2014, 03:16
What if Marten is a deep-cover bodyguard?
I rather like this idea, except he doesn't work at CoD.

And of course Hanners hasn't seen them; that would damage the therapeutic effect of living in the Real WorldŽ.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 04 Aug 2014, 03:33
And of course Hanners hasn't seen them; that would damage the therapeutic effect of living in the Real WorldŽ.
Perhaps the easiest explanation is Hanners' own theory (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2280). That way, security is not necessary. Whenever there are unwanted developments, the scene would be deleted, and replayed with necessary adjustments of initial conditions :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 04 Aug 2014, 06:12
What if Marten is a deep-cover bodyguard?
I rather like this idea, except he doesn't work at CoD.
But he's there a lot. And one of his complaints about the breakup with Dora was that he had to find another coffee shop. Of course he's not going to day the real reason that's frustrating.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 04 Aug 2014, 06:31
Working at the CoD would actually make him a worse bodyguard than just hanging out there all the time. If he's working, he has to be there on schedule, which probably won't always match with Hanner's schedule unless Dora is in on it. Just hanging out though, he can come and go as he pleases.

Of course, this doesn't fill in any other the other dozens of holes in this theory, but it's fun. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 04 Aug 2014, 10:05
OK, you want a wild theory full of holes? Here's a wild theory full of holes: Hannelore is her own bodyguard. Evil Hannelore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1662) is actually the same person as Good Hannelore - just an alternate personality that is programmed to take over whenever Hannelore is in danger. And she may have surfaced during the Hannerpocalypse (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) also.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 04 Aug 2014, 10:18
Hmm, I'd thank that in this one (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2443), she was more "Evil Hanners" than in 2682.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 04 Aug 2014, 10:59
Link's bust.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 04 Aug 2014, 11:00
Remove the quotation marks from around the link and it'll work.

And add a colon after http.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 04 Aug 2014, 11:21
I wonder if we (by which I mean someone with server access) could put together a comic link plugin. Something like

Code: [Select]
Hmm, I'd thank that in [comic=2443]this one[/comic], she was more "Evil Hanners" than in 2682.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 04 Aug 2014, 12:24
I'm not sure what Dale means but it soudns a bit assholish.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 04 Aug 2014, 13:56
Dale wouldn't last long in the forums.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 04 Aug 2014, 14:07
Neither May, Faye, Marten's Mom, yelling bird, sweet tits...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 04 Aug 2014, 14:55
Well, Dales in the right place for that headache - Have a nice, relaxing Double Espresso.

If you see them Hanners, they aren't doing their job properly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 04 Aug 2014, 15:45
OK, you want a wild theory full of holes? Here's a wild theory full of holes: Hannelore is her own bodyguard. Evil Hannelore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1662) is actually the same person as Good Hannelore - just an alternate personality that is programmed to take over whenever Hannelore is in danger. And she may have surfaced during the Hannerpocalypse (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) also.

I want this one to be true even more than the last one. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 04 Aug 2014, 15:54
I wonder if we (by which I mean someone with server access) could put together a comic link plugin. Something like

Code: [Select]
Hmm, I'd thank that in [comic=2443]this one[/comic], she was more "Evil Hanners" than in 2682.

I seriously doubt that would be a problem. It'd be a simple substitution.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 04 Aug 2014, 17:39
OK, you want a wild theory full of holes? Here's a wild theory full of holes: Hannelore is her own bodyguard. Evil Hannelore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1662) is actually the same person as Good Hannelore - just an alternate personality that is programmed to take over whenever Hannelore is in danger. And she may have surfaced during the Hannerpocalypse (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) also.

I'm not so sure this couldn't be, Hannelore hasn't really been in any threatening situations to bring EvilHanners to the forefront - and there is enough leakage from the deep programming to make Hannelore have flashes of input from EvilHanners. And since Hannermom doesn't remember getting pregnant (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=922) that means Hannerdad had her put under, took an egg from her, fertilized it with his super-soldier serum altered seed, then implanted it for a regular pregnancy before setting Hannermom up with some memories that glossed over everything.

Hannelore's OCD and social issues were triggered in part by the deep personality implants, it took years of Station coaxing her along on Hannerdad's carefully planned agenda for her able to function in a semi-normal fashion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 04 Aug 2014, 18:21
The dream about the giant rapping penis may have been another instance of Hannelore's alternate personality leaking through.

Damn, this is getting good. It's almost like the time I totally made up a conspiracy theory about Richard Nixon being the mastermind behind the JFK assassination, and then managed to convince one of my friends it was real.  :evil:

Also, May needs to be careful. Assault would certainly be a violation of her parole.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2014, 18:43
No jury would convict her (also he got off light, he's lucky Faye's not there).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 04 Aug 2014, 19:04
That specific kind of baldness is my worst nightmare. As soon as I detect any trace of it on my head, I'll go skinhead (or at least horseshoe).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 04 Aug 2014, 19:16
I'd run around with one of those for several years before I saw it by accident in a double mirror.  My wife said, "Of course you're going bald.  You have been for years.  Haven't you ever looked at your father?"   :-\

Also, the finger snap.  Mondo douchebag. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 04 Aug 2014, 19:37
May is Faye's robotic incarnation.

Did Faye get cloned at some point? Is this a secret Hannerplan?

More news as it comes to light.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 04 Aug 2014, 19:53
Unless National Enquirer gets there first    ;D


Rude little asshat ain't he?

Typical CoD Customer
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2014, 19:58
Haven't you ever looked at your father?
It's not your father though, it's your maternal grandfather. At least that's what I've always heard. I hope that's the case, because if not I'm screwed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 04 Aug 2014, 21:01
Could today's strip be Jeph teasing us with the idea that Faye will move to NY with Angus, and her role as Chief Snarkeuse will be taken over by May?  If so it's not working on the forum crowd at least.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 04 Aug 2014, 21:21
And on the Hanner's bodyguard(s) issue I'm not so convinced she has one/them.  Her mother isn't exactly the caring type, while her father is probably too absentminded to realise it might be an issue.  If it weren't for the fact I don't think she wanted a kid in the first place I suspect Hannermom would probably go out and buy an orphan or two to replace Hannelore if something bad happened to her. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 04 Aug 2014, 21:26
Her mom is very much the caring type, just not the caring type that requires her to do anything. So in that regards, hiring a squad of bodyguards is right up her alley.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 04 Aug 2014, 23:10
Haven't you ever looked at your father?
It's not your father though, it's your maternal grandfather. At least that's what I've always heard. I hope that's the case, because if not I'm screwed.
It is more complicated than that (everything is more complicated)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgenic_alopecia#Genetics
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 04 Aug 2014, 23:24
Haven't you ever looked at your father?
It's not your father though, it's your maternal grandfather. At least that's what I've always heard. I hope that's the case, because if not I'm screwed.
Nah. My maternal grandfather had about 10 hairs left on his head when he was 19 and my hair is quite thick, just like my father's.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 05 Aug 2014, 01:18
Baldness is on the X chromosome (like almost everything else!) and is a recessive trait, which is why men get it more than women - women are much more likely to have a dominant non-baldness X because we get two shots at it. So there's really no way to accurately predict whether or not you'll go bald, because even if you track back to your maternal grandfather you still don't know which X you got from your mother.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 05 Aug 2014, 01:33
Thanks, May! I had always thought that I follow Dad's pattern of hairloss, but your explanation makes sense. It is probably more complicated /not quite the whole truth, but there is a significant correlation. Meaning that whatever I have left in ten years or so will go pretty silvery like my maternal grandpa. Awesome!

Repeating myself: I started losing hair at about 20, may be a bit earlier. And, being a mathematician, it adds to my street cred.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Socky on 05 Aug 2014, 03:41
I don't know what it is about the lack of shading on this comic, but I kind of really like it!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 05 Aug 2014, 04:00
I don't know what it is about the lack of shading on this comic, but I kind of really like it!
Ligne claire!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 05 Aug 2014, 05:17
Take a lesson from the Canadians - there's always time to be polite.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 05 Aug 2014, 06:41
Hanners should have learned by now not to take crap from customers. I can think of a couple of appropriate responses:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 05 Aug 2014, 07:03
  • This isn't Italy and we aren't Starbucks (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=651)
The Brazilian professor I've worked with likes to confuse Starbucks employees by ordering a grande, but pronouncing the name like it's pronounced in Brazilian Portuguese (gran-jee).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Aug 2014, 07:19
No, the way to confuse Starbucks employees is to not order coffee. Order a blueberry muffin or something like that, and when they ask "How would you like your coffee?" tell them you don't drink coffee. They cannot comprehend this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 05 Aug 2014, 07:20
I confuse my starbucks workers by not drinking there because it's shit and I live in Australia :emotrex:
(We do have a dedicated coffee thread, you know.) (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29711.0.html)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 05 Aug 2014, 07:38
It turns out when they were developing May's AI, they mistakenly used some data Hannelore's mother had lying around on Faye.  So now they're like sisters.  But one has an actual conviction.

Too much of a stretch?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 05 Aug 2014, 07:57
Has May actually met Faye yet? Seems like they would get along well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 05 Aug 2014, 08:23
Briefly. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2505)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 05 Aug 2014, 08:27
Ah, okay, but not since she's gotten a body?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Aug 2014, 08:32
Ligne claire!

But that's Hanners!

....I'll just show myself out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 05 Aug 2014, 08:53
Briefly. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2505)

There were no briefs involved in the meeting though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 05 Aug 2014, 09:45
OK, you want a wild theory full of holes? Here's a wild theory full of holes: Hannelore is her own bodyguard. Evil Hannelore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/1662) is actually the same person as Good Hannelore - just an alternate personality that is programmed to take over whenever Hannelore is in danger. And she may have surfaced during the Hannerpocalypse (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) also.

I want this one to be true even more than the last one.

I think it is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 05 Aug 2014, 10:00
RE: genetics

I'm the oldest of four boys, and it's really funny how we split 2 + 2 on so many genetic traits.  As for hair, two of us went the way my father did, starting at the crown with a slowly receding hairline until they met in the middle.  I finally shaved the paltry shock on top,  My baby brother hasn't yet, he still has enough to comb. 

The other two are following my maternal grandfather's pattern, slowly losing the temples.  He had a full head of silver hair (with a pronounced widow's peak) when he passed away in his 80's. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 05 Aug 2014, 14:42
My hairline has been slowly receding since my late teens. My brother is now bald at age 30, and he thinned on top before it went entirely like my dad. I'm hoping my hair lasts longer because... I like having hair.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Aug 2014, 16:29
Would it annoy you all terribly if I said that at 48 I still have a full head of hair? And it's turning pure white. I am going to look awesome when I'm old.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 05 Aug 2014, 16:39
It'll certainly pick up colour easily and vibrantly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mikmaxs on 05 Aug 2014, 18:21
WHY ARE HANNELORE'S EYES SO HUGE? In today's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Aug 2014, 18:23
May is not helping.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Aug 2014, 18:24
We've gone full kawaii.

Also, Tai got hips and Dora turned asian. (http://jephjacques.com/post/93918047985/drawing-a-little-looser-and-having-fun)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Aug 2014, 18:25
And I suddenly had a vision of May baby-sitting little Fighter Jet. It was not pretty.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 05 Aug 2014, 18:29
And I suddenly had a vision of May baby-sitting little Fighter Jet. It was not pretty.

So does the kid actually get named 'Raptor' or 'Worthog?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 05 Aug 2014, 19:19
Hanners will tell Faye about this, and Faye will breakup with Angus over this over a miscommunication.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 05 Aug 2014, 19:25
About baldness, there are other genes involved that are not linked to the chromossome X so people whose father presents hair loss have 2.5 times more chances to develop it too independent of the mother lineage.

So the only way to be safe is not having any bald person in both sides of the family. Hooray!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 05 Aug 2014, 19:28
In before 10000 comments about Hanners' eyes

Ok, maybe 9998
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 05 Aug 2014, 19:38
Is anyone else noticing some pretty substantial changes to Jeph's artwork over the last couple of days?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 05 Aug 2014, 19:40
Gah!

Hannelore has suddenly become either an anthroPC or a huge Lady Gaga fan.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 05 Aug 2014, 19:41
He has been experimenting with drawing a little "looser" on twitter today.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: guardgirl716 on 05 Aug 2014, 19:49
that moment when you realize hypothetical Baby Fighter Jet is a call-back to this wonderful conversation (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2502)  :wow:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 05 Aug 2014, 20:16
In before 10000 comments about Hanners' eyes

Ok, maybe 9998

Artist Evolution HO!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Chelicerate on 05 Aug 2014, 21:01
Baldness is on the X chromosome (like almost everything else!) and is a recessive trait, which is why men get it more than women - women are much more likely to have a dominant non-baldness X because we get two shots at it. So there's really no way to accurately predict whether or not you'll go bald, because even if you track back to your maternal grandfather you still don't know which X you got from your mother.

A friendly reminder that not all women have two X chromosomes, nor do all men have a Y chromosome.

On the art: I'm not sure I like it. But I've reacted that way to every art shakeup this comic's gone through. I'll live.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Aug 2014, 21:43
 Now we need to cut to the library for no reason to see Claire and Emily designs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 05 Aug 2014, 21:58
I hope the new art is not a one off. I quite like it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 05 Aug 2014, 22:25
*Sigh*

Now they'll have to push Hanners Reset Button - again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 05 Aug 2014, 23:35
A friendly reminder that not all women have two X chromosomes, nor do all men have a Y chromosome.
Yes, except they actually do.

Unless something went seriously wrong and then in most cases the baby wouldnt even be born, let alone get into adulthood.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 05 Aug 2014, 23:41
Even if one were to exclude *trans || intersex folks from the calculus, there are plenty of uncommon enough but not deadly genetic and developmental things that can cause gender to not match chromosomes. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 06 Aug 2014, 00:01
Even if one were to exclude *trans || intersex folks from the calculus, there are plenty of uncommon enough but not deadly genetic and developmental things that can cause gender to not match chromosomes.

XY and X0 women exist, but I don't think you can have a cis-gender man without a Y.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TinPenguin on 06 Aug 2014, 00:54
A million babies is probably a slightly unreasonable number.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 06 Aug 2014, 01:18
A friendly reminder that not all women have two X chromosomes, nor do all men have a Y chromosome.
Yes, except they actually do.

Unless something went seriously wrong and then in most cases the baby wouldnt even be born, let alone get into adulthood.

Chelicerate is right - I wrote my post as I did for convenience, which was lazy of me, but there are plenty of women and men who don't fit the xx/xy binary. Trans women and men, people with unusual genetic makeups (I met a child who has XXXY chromosomes the other day and they were definitely born and there's no indication they won't get into adulthood). There are many members of this forum who would be deeply offended at the statement that there's something "seriously wrong" with them. I'd advise hopping over to the Discuss forum to check out the Trans thread, and also the rules.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 06 Aug 2014, 01:23
May:  "Could go either way."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: foolsguinea on 06 Aug 2014, 02:07
Well, that (Wednesday's comic) was a particularly sudden art shift. The first panel seems pretty close to what he's been doing, but the second feels very different and kind of less finished. Trippy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 06 Aug 2014, 02:58
XY and X0 women exist, but I don't think you can have a cis-gender man without a Y.

XX man with CAH (caused by 21OH)
(http://www.carolguze.com/images/Sex/CAH46,XXmale.jpg)

And to complete the set...

XY(mainly) woman with CAH(caused by 3BHSD)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RX1kCTDHtt8/S0FijXClC5I/AAAAAAAAALo/wS1TkMS0xrA/s400/Pic_04_01_2020)

No, they're not related - just that that is apparenty the typical build that results. Short legs, long arms, barrel chest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Socky on 06 Aug 2014, 05:49
New art style is cool, everything seems a bit less rigid and more expressive, I can get with that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FayeDouble on 06 Aug 2014, 06:20
Glad to see I'm not crazy, and everyone else noticed the art change as well. I'm okay with it (Jeph rocks, everything he does is cool, lol) but I'm interested to see Dale/Sven/Faye in the new styles. Oh, and Marigold as well. Unless it's just Hanners that changed...oh, and Zebidiah, yay for you!!! Guys whose hair turns white/gray as they get older but doesn't fall out are usually VERY good looking. Personal preference, of course.  :-D Sean Connery = ideal!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 06 Aug 2014, 06:37
New art style is cool, everything seems a bit less rigid and more expressive, I can get with that.
I also like the new style as a nice variation, but I am not sure I would like it on a regular basis. Hanners looks a lot more childish than I like to imagine her. I guess we have to wait and see if Jeph decides to commit to the new style.

That said, I am happy with the overall progress in Jeph's drawing style. It is good that we are not stuck with the same style as in the beginning of the series.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 06 Aug 2014, 07:46
Kinda digging the art style.

More importantly, it is now imperative that Dale and Marigold marry and have one child named Fighter Jet. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 06 Aug 2014, 08:14
Even if one were to exclude *trans || intersex folks from the calculus, there are plenty of uncommon enough but not deadly genetic and developmental things that can cause gender to not match chromosomes.

XY and X0 women exist, but I don't think you can have a cis-gender man without a Y.

Sometimes a portion of the Y chromosome might end up trading places with a part of the X chromosome resulting in an X chromosome that functions like a Y chromosome. Or sometimes a female fetus suffer over-exposition to androgen hormones (like from a tumor) and they develop like a boy with, except that they have ovaries and no Y chromosome.

There is also the cases where two embryos merge and the cells get all mixed so a person can have XX and XY cells and sometimes even testicle and ovary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 06 Aug 2014, 09:09
I hope the new art is not a one off. I quite like it.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm just not feeling it. A: the whole Hanners-as-Muppet-Baby* thing is disturbing, and B: call me a silly bastard, but I like my characters to look human. I don't expect (or want, really) to see the characters look like they did in the early strips, but that last panel seems more like a devolution than an evolution.**

*Alright, not a Muppet Baby exactly, but I think you get where I'm coming from.
**Usual disclaimers apply. YMMV, etc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: zioninavision on 06 Aug 2014, 10:30
Theoretically by switching to a more freeform differently expressive style Jeph will be able to create a evolution of QC while also working on the new comic! 

A style like this would allow QC to breathe into the spacey, psychedelic/musical moods and concepts that have always been part of it, while additionally not requiring the comics to have to have a strict, tidy appearance before being good-to-publish.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 06 Aug 2014, 13:39
I'm with Azriphale, I'm not digging it at all. I'm generally pretty open-minded with art styles, but this instance just gives off a creepy, disturbing vibe to me. The style kind of infatilizes her.  The shift is quite jarring. If this is going to be the new look, I'll get used to it like I have all the other shifts over the years, but it's definitely not my preference. But it's Jeph's work, he can make it the way he likes, I'm just along for the ride.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2014, 14:34
What's weird to me isn't the style itself so much as the sudden shift. Usually you'd get the change between 2762 and 2763 over 100 or more comics, not one to the next.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schwungrad on 06 Aug 2014, 15:20
I'm hoping my hair lasts longer because... I like having hair.
Extrapolating from your profile picture, I always imagined you as bald :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 06 Aug 2014, 16:00
...oh, and Zebidiah, yay for you!!! Guys whose hair turns white/gray as they get older but doesn't fall out are usually VERY good looking. Personal preference, of course.  :-D Sean Connery = ideal!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mr. Connery's been bald for a very long time.  Those are toupees. 

This is a pic from the set of You Only Live Twice - he was already losing a lot of it;

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/phoenixmb/e50df164.jpg)

Still looks good, though, rockin' that scalp. 

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0lC8sTjDZKw/TWP2IA2LqgI/AAAAAAAABfQ/9AplDhunLrs/s1600/connery.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sluthy on 06 Aug 2014, 16:47
Looks like Jeph likes it:

Quote from: jephjacques
lots of people commenting on the different art in today's comic. It's a lot of fun to draw, feels like I've "opened up" or something
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 06 Aug 2014, 18:09
Uh-oh. We've seen Hannelore assert herself (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1418) before, and it can be pretty scary.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBiscuit on 06 Aug 2014, 18:49
Whatever Hannelore is about to do, she doesn't get to. This is not something you get to do to a person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheCollector on 06 Aug 2014, 19:03
I gotta say, some points of the new art I like better, like the hands, but those big eyes just weird me out. If Jeph wants to stick with this style I don't mind, just hope he shrinks down on the eyes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 06 Aug 2014, 19:10
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Mr. Connery's been bald for a very long time.  Those are toupees.
And he was secure enough to remove his toupée on-camera at the end of The Man With The Deadly Lens.

Why does May have toothpicks? It's not like she'll get food stuck between her teeth?

I'm not sure about the new art. I didn't like the "shadowless" style of 2762 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2762), but I'll see if the current style grows on me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 06 Aug 2014, 19:11
"Tin hats everybody!"

@Akima - That's a French Coffee Press, not Toothpicks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 06 Aug 2014, 19:32
This new style reminds me somewhat of the style we got with the late 100's and early 1000's strips. 

That was actually my favorite style of all, though.  This new one, not so much, unfortunately...but hey, that's just like, my opinion, man.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 06 Aug 2014, 19:34
I gotta say, some points of the new art I like better, like the hands, but those big eyes just weird me out. If Jeph wants to stick with this style I don't mind, just hope he shrinks down on the eyes.

I don't know, I kind of like how it looks like a cartoon and a anime at the same time. Even if that does break some law of the universe.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 06 Aug 2014, 19:51
I hope the new art is not a one off. I quite like it.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm just not feeling it. A: the whole Hanners-as-Muppet-Baby* thing is disturbing, and B: call me a silly bastard, but I like my characters to look human. I don't expect (or want, really) to see the characters look like they did in the early strips, but that last panel seems more like a devolution than an evolution.




I'm with you.  Huge eyes are not, in my opinion, all that attractive a feature. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 06 Aug 2014, 20:02
This new style reminds me somewhat of the style we got with the late 100's and early 1000's strips. 


The period around 1000 is what I think of as his "frowny" period, as the characters often seem to be frowning anytime they weren't smiling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 06 Aug 2014, 20:37
Oh come on Marigold, don't go down the path of spending all of your time with the boyfriend and none with your friends. We all know that doesn't end well!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Aug 2014, 20:45
Whatever Hannelore is about to do, she doesn't get to. This is not something you get to do to a person.
Tell your friend that a new relationship is exciting and great but that's no reason to completely abandon your friends? Yes, yes it is something you get to (and should) do to a person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: J on 06 Aug 2014, 21:49
the new style's a lot more 'cartoony', he's playing faster and looser with anatomy & proportion & such. (note how much hannelore's neck is stretching out in panel 3)

it'll just take a bit of time, both for us to get used to, and for jeph to get comfortable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 06 Aug 2014, 21:58
Although I love anime, I'm a bit sceptical of the new art.  I don't hate it yet, but I don't like it yet either.  Plus, like many crazy people, drastic change can throw me off.  I just think I'll wait and see until it's been around a bit longer before I pass judgement on it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 06 Aug 2014, 22:12
I don't like it. I mean, it's fine as an art style, but not for this. The story is too serious and refined for a style like this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiEv on 06 Aug 2014, 22:23
What's weird to me isn't the style itself so much as the sudden shift. Usually you'd get the change between 2762 and 2763 over 100 or more comics, not one to the next.

I have to say, I agree.

I noticed that he also tweeted, "It feels like my brain medicine has stopped working entirely. I should call my psychiatrist tomorrow."  I think that the sudden and rather radical shift in art style is an strong indicator that something is going on that needs to be checked.  Artists having sudden shifts in style like this, for better or worse, is not normal.

I hope he brings up this sudden art style change with his psychiatrist.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sorflakne on 06 Aug 2014, 22:27
Meh, not a fan of the new art style either.  I mean, I look at panel 4 in today's comic for example and see Hanners saying she's about to assert herself.  If this were drawn a week ago, I'd be thinking, "Ooooh shi-", but with this style, all I can think of is, "Aww, how cute."  This art style doesn't really fit, it's too cutesy; which there's nothing wrong with, but it doesn't feel right for this comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 06 Aug 2014, 22:36
Isn't it always "awww how cute" with Hanners? Except alternate Hanners variations.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Janet_Yellens_yellin on 06 Aug 2014, 22:49
Perhaps it's because the change is so abrupt, but the new style looks almost like a parody of his old to me. I seem to remember one of the guest strips using a similar style, in fact. This cartoonish style therefore makes it harder for myself to take the reactions and emotions of the characters as seriously, which I don't think fits this style of comic. For example, I'm not sure how to interpret Marigold's reaction in the final panel of the comic because the art is so cartoonish. I think the humor of QC is built upon nuances in the characters, which are harder to depict in such a cartoonish style.

I do acknowledge that the early strips were quite cartoonish as well, but I'd argue that they were built upon an entirely different kind of humor, which eventually evolved significantly to that of today. So now (in my opinion) we have a cartoonish art style clashing with the more realistic, "modern" writing, perhaps resulting in the dissonance I experienced at Marigold's previously mentioned reaction. My question is: will the writing now evolve to create unity with the art? Of course, I may be an outlier in my reaction, as well, and no change in the writing may be needed.

However, the artist likes the new style, and far be it from me to tell him or anyone not to shake up a comic which has been so longrunning. I'm actually pretty excited to see if he makes further changes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 06 Aug 2014, 23:10
I second the sentiments about the art :/
Does anyone know what the title (B-E) means?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Torlek on 06 Aug 2014, 23:13
I'll be blunt, I hate it. The eyes are too out of proportion and the postures/actions are too exaggerated. Had he been doing this for a while (or even shifting in this direction) that'd be one thing. But this sudden shift just completely disengages the art from the established tone and what few story threads are left. I can't take any of the characters seriously if they're going to look like this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Aug 2014, 23:16
nuances

I worry that the new style won't leave room for the wonderful facial expression details Jeph is so good at.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 06 Aug 2014, 23:21
Oh come on Marigold, don't go down the path of spending all of your time with the boyfriend and none with your friends. We all know that doesn't end well!
Well, we have all had friends behaving like that. Maybe even been down that path ourselves. From my own experience, I would be willing to wait a while, until the initial intense period is over. When things calm down a little, I guess Marigold will miss her friends, and start hanging out more with Hanners again. But still, it is a big difference from being single. Marigold cannot spend as much time with friends as before, I guess Dale will require at least 50% of her spare time.

EDIT: And where is Momo? I guess she is also missing Marigold. Momo and Hanners should start to hang out more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 06 Aug 2014, 23:36
May seems to be working at CoD now. Not that she is hired, but she is doing work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 07 Aug 2014, 00:14
Please note, May has now moved behind the counter, helping Hanners making french press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_press) coffee (she is probably not yet entrusted with the espresso machine (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2547)). I guess May just wants to be close to Hanners, ready to defend her, and the best position for that happens to be behind the counter.

When Dora appears, she might be mad; on the other hand, she might also recognize May's talent as a barista (both in attitude and in the ability to make coffee). Dora can hardly afford more employees, but perhaps May is happy helping out (without pay) whenever Hanners is on duty.

I guess May will want to become Hanners' companion (or disciple?), and move in with her. This will cause complications. Winslow will become jealous (is it even legal to have a threesome companionship?), and Hanners might not even be interested in a close relationship with May.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: gopher on 07 Aug 2014, 00:22
Obviously as readers of a free comic we are owed absolutely nothing. With that said I really don't like the new manga-esque eyes and body proportions. Much, much prefer the quasi-realistic art.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jedit on 07 Aug 2014, 00:39
I gotta say, some points of the new art I like better, like the hands, but those big eyes just weird me out. If Jeph wants to stick with this style I don't mind, just hope he shrinks down on the eyes.

I don't know, I kind of like how it looks like a cartoon and a anime at the same time. Even if that does break some law of the universe.

Schrodinger's Cartoon: until it is observed, it cannot be determined whether the observer is or is not an otaku. :D

Seriously, I agree with The Collector - almost everything about the new art style is fine, but the eyes need to go back to where they were before. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Aug 2014, 00:59
Lots of people not liking the new art, I see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BarGamer on 07 Aug 2014, 01:37
I don't care, I think Hanners is adorable with larger eyes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 07 Aug 2014, 02:00
I'm going to side with the other who re not digging the new style at all. Feels way to cartoonish for me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Aug 2014, 02:04
I hope the new art is not a one off. I quite like it.

Maybe it's just me, but I'm just not feeling it. A: the whole Hanners-as-Muppet-Baby* thing is disturbing, and B: call me a silly bastard, but I like my characters to look human. I don't expect (or want, really) to see the characters look like they did in the early strips, but that last panel seems more like a devolution than an evolution.**

*Alright, not a Muppet Baby exactly, but I think you get where I'm coming from.
**Usual disclaimers apply. YMMV, etc.
I completely agree. Hanners looks scary and ridiculous like this.
I way preferred - actually, I loved - the art style when Jeph was going for making the characters look like actual adult humans; the era ~1800-2300, especially around 2100. Since then, their heads and eyes have gotten bigger, so the characters looked more child-like again, but I still thought it was really good to pretty good (depending on the day) up until this really drastic change.
This new art change... Marigold and May are ok, but Hanners is really off in my opinion. And since she's one of my favourite characters, I'm very sad about that. I mean, just compare today's comic with this, for example - I just randomly picked one comic that had Hanners in it from the art-era I like; you can look at any of the others instead: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2244 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2244). Or even just the one a few days ago: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2759 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2759) For me, that's a big step backwards, sorry.
(While I'm complaining: I also by far preferred Dora and Tai in that era of comics I specified above.)

I'm also still hoping that May will neither work at CoD nor as Hanners' bodyguard. She's way less annoying and obnoxious now than when she first showed up, but I'd still like to see my favourite characters interact without her being around all the time.

Of course, that's just me and Jeph should do what he likes, but I'm enjoying QC way less lately than I used to - so far mainly due to the, in my eyes, wonky art, not so much the storyline.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 07 Aug 2014, 02:30
@Akima - That's a French Coffee Press, not Toothpicks.
I was referring to the first panel of 2763 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2763).

Incoming Hannelore self-assertion! Duck and cover!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stonewolfe on 07 Aug 2014, 03:16
I like this new art style (and yes I made an account today, just to point this out) I kind of hope it sticks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: iduguphergrave on 07 Aug 2014, 03:23
Toothpicks are an old-timey way of showing a character is thuggish, underhanded, and/or sneaky in some way. Appropriate for an ex-con who's taken it upon herself to be a bodyguard.

Not a fan of the new art style so far, but need a few more strips to be sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 07 Aug 2014, 03:25
I sort of expect the new art direction to mellow down a bit over time, so I'll stay cautiously optimistic about it. Right now it seems a bit jarring, but we'll see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 07 Aug 2014, 03:40
I sort of expect the new art direction to mellow down a bit over time, so I'll stay cautiously optimistic about it. Right now it seems a bit jarring, but we'll see.
Right; good changes often happen that way.  I'm so used to webcomics going through these shake-ups, that I would not have thought twice about it, but for the talk on the forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 07 Aug 2014, 03:47
Incoming Hannelore self-assertion! Duck and cover!
With a previous drawing style, yes (check the Chenobylore (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1108) strip). But with the new drawing style, I have a hard time imagining Hanners going critical. She would just look cute.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Channelore HellicottAtham on 07 Aug 2014, 04:43
Hello. I am here to say that I am struggling to see past the new style enough to enjoy the story it tells. Fingers crossed this is just some fun and experimentation - it would be such a shame anyway to lose the quality of expression and personality Jeph's skills inject into his art by 'reverting' to a simpler style. It cheapens it in a way.. turns the story we've followed for years, the characters worth discussing enough to generate an entire forum of conversations, into merely.. cartoons.

Also the loose'n'easy style is at odds with the tone of the current strip. I know it's not something like Faye's father's death, nor Marten & Dora's breakup, but the loss of a friend (or, at least, the perception of loss) is acutely painful for anyone, let alone someone who so values human friendship as Hanners. Good friends are hard to find, and these are the first she's ever had; given we could realistically consider Marigold as her best friend, the neglect of this relationship by Marigold post-Dale must hurt.  :cry:

Anyway, hello.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 07 Aug 2014, 04:59
To be honest, I havent even noticed the art changes much.

I mean sure they look different... but they look different all the time, so meh.

Also, still much better than anything I myself could ever manage (in probably 10 times the time it takes Jeph).

Now if Order of the Stick would change its artwork, that one would be much noticeable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 07 Aug 2014, 05:37
I look at the new comics and keep thinking "This is a nice guest strip" then I realise it's the art style now, so very strange.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: judemorrigan on 07 Aug 2014, 06:41
Obviously as readers of a free comic we are owed absolutely nothing. With that said I really don't like the new manga-esque eyes and body proportions. Much, much prefer the quasi-realistic art.
This is pretty much my take on it.  That said, I'm sure the current style will grow on me assuming Jeph sticks with it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 07 Aug 2014, 07:34
I wonder what the correlation between liking the new art and being a fan big-eye anime may be...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FayeDouble on 07 Aug 2014, 07:51
Oh you just HAD to post that picture of Connery - drool!
Haha I'm such a nut.

Not digging the new Marigold look yet...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 07 Aug 2014, 08:31
Hello. I am here to say that I am struggling to see past the new style enough to enjoy the story it tells. Fingers crossed this is just some fun and experimentation - it would be such a shame anyway to lose the quality of expression and personality Jeph's skills inject into his art by 'reverting' to a simpler style. It cheapens it in a way.. turns the story we've followed for years, the characters worth discussing enough to generate an entire forum of conversations, into merely.. cartoons.

Also the loose'n'easy style is at odds with the tone of the current strip. I know it's not something like Faye's father's death, nor Marten & Dora's breakup, but the loss of a friend (or, at least, the perception of loss) is acutely painful for anyone, let alone someone who so values human friendship as Hanners. Good friends are hard to find, and these are the first she's ever had; given we could realistically consider Marigold as her best friend, the neglect of this relationship by Marigold post-Dale must hurt.  :cry:

Anyway, hello.  :-)
Good points, I agree! And welcome to the forum!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mojo on 07 Aug 2014, 09:42
Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.  As an artist myself, I've always preferred the expressionist style.  However, it seems to me that much of the appeal of a comic like this is its ability to draw the reader INTO the setting.  We're interacting vicariously with these characters.  Thus, I think a more "realistic" style is more conducive to that appeal.  The expressive style is fun and all, but it kind of breaks down the connection to the characters.

Just my opinion, of course.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 07 Aug 2014, 10:34
Well, with QC and Jeph, change has been a constant. I did think for a moment after seeing this one that there had been a guest comic for the day.  I am just wondering if Pintsize will get bigger eyes as well O_O
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 07 Aug 2014, 10:41
Thank God I agree with you. Disagreeing with someone with a Hobbes avatar would've broken my heart.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Aug 2014, 10:43
Take a lesson from the Canadians - there's always time to be polite.

(click to show/hide)

I have had a Canadian player apologize for checking me into the boards AS he was doing it.

Hanners should have learned by now not to take crap from customers. I can think of a couple of appropriate responses:
  • Are you talking to me, or to the phone?
  • Sorry, no habla Starbucks (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=419)
  • This isn't Italy and we aren't Starbucks (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=651)
  • (click to show/hide)

When I was working as a barista right after I got out of the Marines, I actually told a customer "Sorry, no habla Starbucks" when she gave me an order for something in starbuckese at approximately mach 2. I was fully expecting an ass chewing from my manager after she left with her drink, but apparently that customer is a constant pain in the ass and the only way to handle her is getting in her face a little.

Fuck I hated that job.


On the art change, I for one welcome our new loose and easy overlords. The characters are still them, and if the art's a little easier on Jephizba, Troll Master General, then I can dig it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MrCorvin on 07 Aug 2014, 10:54
I do acknowledge that the early strips were quite cartoonish as well, but I'd argue that they were built upon an entirely different kind of humor, which eventually evolved significantly to that of today. So now (in my opinion) we have a cartoonish art style clashing with the more realistic, "modern" writing, perhaps resulting in the dissonance I experienced at Marigold's previously mentioned reaction. My question is: will the writing now evolve to create unity with the art? Of course, I may be an outlier in my reaction, as well, and no change in the writing may be needed.

However I would like to point out, he had gone so far as to redraw them for the book to give them a more "current" look.

It as if the art is drawing around May then May going around everyone else. It was really a bit of a culture shock from comic 2762 to 2763. I'm not a huge fan of the current style, it just looks too anime to me. We'll see if it starts to affect enjoying the comic storyarchs. That would make me a sad panda.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 07 Aug 2014, 11:05
Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.  As an artist myself, I've always preferred the expressionist style.  However, it seems to me that much of the appeal of a comic like this is its ability to draw the reader INTO the setting.  We're interacting vicariously with these characters.  Thus, I think a more "realistic" style is more conducive to that appeal.  The expressive style is fun and all, but it kind of breaks down the connection to the characters.

Just my opinion, of course.

That's just it; I don't mind the style elsewhere, but here it seems like it would get limiting very quickly. One of the things that "works" about Jeph's artwork -- especially in the last few years' worth of strips -- is what he's been able to get out of facial expressions, in addition to (or sometimes in place of) his dialogue. When your characters look perpetually shocked or on the verge of copious weeping by default, it tends to limit your options a bit.

PS: Yes, I'm aware it's his strip and he can do as he damn well pleases (and will do so). Just my opinion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 07 Aug 2014, 14:09
Incoming Hannelore self-assertion! Duck and cover!

You need to be more friendly!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfCT45eCAAEJp53.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DonInKansas on 07 Aug 2014, 14:50
I'm definitely not a fan of the huge anime eyes, but I also prefer the original chain smoking long haired Hannelore to all of the other iterations.  :psyduck:

It's Jeph's comic; he can do what he wants.  One man's opinion and all that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Aug 2014, 15:01

You need to be more friendly!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfCT45eCAAEJp53.png)

Yes, Morale Officer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tabletopgame/Paranoia)! Thank you, Morale Officer!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 07 Aug 2014, 15:12
Oddly enough, I find the new art style less expressive than previous.

Compare panel 4 of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2763 with panel 4 of http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1636 for instance. I realize the situations are different, maybe the levels of distress are different, but just look at those two faces. Comparing those two, the new Hanners face is just so...flat.

I'm sure in tradeoff the new style is a lot easier/less stressful to draw, which is definitely important when you're drawing five strips a week - you need to be able to balance technique/effort with your time and energy to actually produce work without having a breakdown, so even if this seems like a step (or two) backwards artistically, that's not to say it's entirely without merit. Life is, at times, compromise.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 07 Aug 2014, 15:19
I like the idea that a character's relative size and shape and features can vary panel to panel according to what's going on. Perhaps not as much as in full-on anime, but adding that to QC would ,I think, enhance the experience for me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 07 Aug 2014, 15:32
I'm definitely not a fan of the huge anime eyes, but I also prefer the original chain smoking long haired Hannelore to all of the other iterations.  :psyduck:

Chain smoking kills. You don't want to kill Hanners....do you?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 07 Aug 2014, 16:05
Be careful how you answer that question. Answer it wrong, and May will want to have a word with you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 07 Aug 2014, 16:25
@Akima - That's a French Coffee Press, not Toothpicks.
I was referring to the first panel of 2763 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2763).

Incoming Hannelore self-assertion! Duck and cover!

Ahhh.  OK


*Runs to nearest Fallout Shelter*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Wetman on 07 Aug 2014, 17:04
Marigold has an hourglass figure now lol
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 07 Aug 2014, 18:24
Well, she has been getting more exercise. For certain values of "exercise".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: freeman on 07 Aug 2014, 20:38
Marigold has an hourglass figure now lol

And all those sexy stuff hormones seem to have done good for her pimples.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somebody on 07 Aug 2014, 21:10
Okay, weird... art-wise he seems to have backed up a bit on Hanners, but much less so on Marigold...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Aug 2014, 21:12
Regarding her figure and acne I'd suspect it's more a case that with an improved social life Marigold also has an improved diet.  She was all but certainly living largely on giant size Slurpees and Pocky before meeting the gang.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Aug 2014, 21:13
Marigold has an hourglass figure now lol

And all those sexy stuff hormones seem to have done good for her pimples.
What about her teeth?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somebody on 07 Aug 2014, 21:23
Marigold has an hourglass figure now lol

And all those sexy stuff hormones seem to have done good for her pimples.
What about her teeth?
It's not her teeth, it's her top lip. Like a stick of Blackpool Rock, Dale dissolves a bit more of it every time he kisses her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 07 Aug 2014, 21:49
Finally realized what Marigold's new appearance reminds me of.
(http://7poundbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Redd-Foxx.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBiscuit on 07 Aug 2014, 23:42
Whatever Hannelore is about to do, she doesn't get to. This is not something you get to do to a person.
Tell your friend that a new relationship is exciting and great but that's no reason to completely abandon your friends? Yes, yes it is something you get to (and should) do to a person.
The person who demands your attention at the expense of an exciting new relationship isn't your friend and never was. They're just a selfish person who doesn't care about your feelings.  If the relationship was months old they might have a point, but at this early stage, it's normal to want to spend all your time with the person you're dating. Those first few weeks of inseperability are precious.

Remember how slow QC time goes? How long d'ya thing Mari's been dating Dale? I'm thinking it's been maybe three weeks, probably less. If you're not spending all your free time with someone new when the relationship is only three weeks old, you probably just aren't that into them. After twice or three times that amount of time it is good to emerge and see your friends again, who (if they are reasonable, and actually care about you) will have made allowances, just as you have or would for them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 07 Aug 2014, 23:57


The person who demands your attention at the expense of an exciting new relationship isn't your friend and never was. They're just a selfish person who doesn't care about your feelings.

Or, you know, someone unexperienced with having friends. Particularly friends getting into relationships.

Hanners has seen what? Two couples in her circle of friends get together? Marten+Dora and Faye+Sven (and the latter hardly counts as your stereotypical couple)? She most certainly never experienced the stage you describe herself and can judge only from the limited observance she has plus whatever cultural osmosis she had (which at this time probably amounts to Magical Love Gentlemen, which might not discuss the problem at all.)

Hanners is clingy and suffering from divorce child syndrome, yeah. Selfish and not a friend*? Hardly.

*Disclaimer: You of course can pick your friends however you like, and if Hanners' behavior would disqualify her from being your friend, so be it. I am trying to explain why someone would disagree.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Aug 2014, 01:31
However I would like to point out, he had gone so far as to redraw them for the book to give them a more "current" look.

The redrawn strips were done because he had lost the high-res copies that were needed for satisfactory printing.  He redrew them in his current style because, well, that's how he then drew.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadic on 08 Aug 2014, 01:41
I'm pretty meh on the art right now. I'm sure he could clean it up quite a bit (And hopefully make Marigold look less like Bugs Bunny), but the last few comics themselves have been very uninteresting as well.

Granted, Marigold and Hanners have turned into some of my least favorite characters at this point (And comics exclusively featuring them is a big reason why), but I guess we'll see.

No hate, just hope things change. Also wish Jeph best of luck with the doc, hopefully it helps.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Janet_Yellens_yellin on 08 Aug 2014, 01:49
I do think that it is likely that once Jeph gets more comfortable with the style, it'll better fit the tone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 08 Aug 2014, 01:52
Would it annoy you all terribly if I said that at 48 I still have a full head of hair? And it's turning pure white. I am going to look awesome when I'm old.  :-D

Would it annoy you all terribly if I said that at 52 I still have a full head of hair, and it has hardly any gray strands at all? Seriously, you can't see any gray at all from a slight distance. My father still had a full head of hair when he diead at age 72, and it was still salt-and-pepper, with at least as much pepper as salt. I think I'm taking after my dad.  8-)

My beard, however, is another story. It started going gray at least ten or fifteen years ago and now has noticeably more salt than pepper in it. I'm told this is pretty usual for beards, which is why "graybeard" has approximately the same meaning for male humans as "silverback" does for male gorillas...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 Aug 2014, 02:18
I have not had any strong reactions to the new drawing style one way or the other until now, but 2765 is just not up to Jeph's standard. Marigold especially seems hurried and unfinished.

To reiterate the obvious: I have no right to complain. This is a free comic. Jeph can do what ever he pleases.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBiscuit on 08 Aug 2014, 02:21
Hanners is clingy and suffering from divorce child syndrome, yeah. Selfish and not a friend? Hardly.
You are what your behaviour makes of you, in my opinion. Hannelore is not really behaving as a friend. She's behaving as someone who values her own needs over and above those of her supposed friend. I'd perhaps be saying something completely different if I thought the relationship was more than a few weeks old, of course. After the intial intensity subsides, it does become inconsiderate of a person to not find time for their friends.

It really is a perfect symmetry. In the early stages a friend must make allowances for the newly-in-love to be wrapped up in romance, while after the early stages, the other friend must make sure to find time for social activities involving their other friends. It is furthermore symmetric in that a group of friends will take turns at these roles, as each of them finds romance.

This is merely a part of my philosphy of friendship, I don't mean to pretend it is universal. I'm speaking for me.

I do appreciate that Hannelore has limited experience of friendship, but I just don't know how much that should matter. It still doesn't seem to me like the right way to go about things, and as I said... only a person's actions really matter, to anyone else. I'm really not that sympathetic to the Hannelore character, myself. It's probably apparent, but I'm one of the few readers who isn't crazy about her. She's fun at times, but... I don't think of her as a person who would be good fun to associate with.

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I am trying to explain why someone would disagree.
You're succeeding with your explanation. I'm not saying I buy into it, but you've made your point well enough. We just disagree. That should be OK - unless you think I'm stating my opinions in a way which is problematic. That was never my intention. I have very little difficulty in understanding the other points of view, but they're just not ones I can entirely share.

It does occur to me though that maybe all this could be explained if more time has passed than I was aware of - or even if Jeph has himself simply lost track of the passage of time in the comic to some extent. Is it just my imagination, or are there more currently active plot threads than is typical for this comic? Seems like it, but I can't be sure.

With regards to the art style, I had barely noticed the change until I read this thread. I noticed that it was different, but I had not fully become aware of all the various characteristics of this current style. I find that I'm starting to dislike it entirely based on things that you folk have brought to my attention. I wish I'd continued ignoring it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Aug 2014, 02:46
Rubbish. It's not ok to spend every waking minute with a new romantic partner and entirely ignore all your friends until you need them again. If Marigold can't spare an hour to hang out with the people who supported her and cared about her while she was lonely, miserable and not very pleasant to be around, she is the one being selfish and shouldn't be at all surprised if she comes back in a couple of months when the Dale-gloss has rubbed off to find that she doesn't actually have any friends any more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shteevie on 08 Aug 2014, 02:52
I dunno if JJ reads these threads regularly, but I wanted to voice my support for this new art style, the idea of experimentation and growth of his art in general, the addition of another robot character to the story, and the acquisition of new brain meds.

I am interested, on a personal level, if Jeph may feel that the change to the art is related to, a consequence of, or at least influenced by his brain med situation, but of course this is his own personal issue and I don't expect any kind of response [I don't even plan on asking him directly]. However, many artists throughout history have had linked experiences of mental health and artistic expression, so I feel that this may possibly be the case here as well.

Back to lurking on the forums and enjoying the comic!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mawile on 08 Aug 2014, 03:14
I like this new art style a lot more now that Hannelore's eyes are, ah, more normal sized. That was really the only thing bothering me (though, to be fair, we've only seen three characters, so it's possible JJ might work out the kinks with other characters as well).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mad Cat on 08 Aug 2014, 06:47
Mar-Bear's overbite seems a lot more pronounced lately, but then, I am migraining like a mofo ATM, so it could be a perceptual problem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 Aug 2014, 06:59
It is not. It really is. That is: it is not a peceptual problem, the overbite really is more pronounced.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 08 Aug 2014, 07:04
It was a little jarring to see the artwork change overnight, I will admit. But meh, I adapt quickly.

On the Marigold/Hannelore interaction: Going back to #2674 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2764), Marigold was pretty abrupt with Hanners when she asked to hang out. Instead of apologising and trying to work out something to benefit them both, she pretty much went for a straight-up "No!". Not hanging around with Hanners does not make Marigold a bad friend, but her handling of the conversation does a little.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 08 Aug 2014, 07:31
Long time reader, first time poster. Apologies for such a cliched introduction!

I too found the change in art a bit jarring and sudden, and I'll have to admit, it's not exactly to my taste. However, it seems like it's been scaled back a bit in the latest strip, so it may be just a case of Jeph refining the new style. In any event, while I may not love the new look - yet, anyway - I certainly respect Jeph's right and need to evolve his style and experiment. Having run a gaming site elsewhere on the Interwebs for a number of years, I'm very much aware of what it's like to unveil a new look, only to have people tear it apart and not give it a chance because it's new and different.

Bottom line, I still like the characters, the humour, the story arcs, and my Defeat Awkwardness t-shirt, so I'll keep reading and hopefully the new style will be refined and grow on me.

As for the current arc...I'm with the folks who are on Hanners' side in this one. Yes, we should all be respectful when our friends are in a new relationship, give them their space and understand that they're not going to be able to hang out as much, but still...well, it's not cool to totally ignore your existing friends either, nor is it inappropriate to miss a friend who's kind of MIA due to a new relationship. It's all in how you handle the situation.

In that respect, I think that's where Marigold is at fault. As techkid alluded to, she was pretty blunt in her rejection of Hanners' invitation, which is pretty in-character as Marigold does lack some social graces. Hanners has been a pretty considerate (and patient) friend to Marigold; being bluntly rebuffed like that was callous. I think the way they both handled the situation in the latest strip was spot on, the way good friends can handle an awkward situation between them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: zioninavision on 08 Aug 2014, 08:28
However, many artists throughout history have had linked experiences of mental health and artistic expression, so I feel that this may possibly be the case here as well.

Something like this was not mentioned directly in relation to the new art style but slightly; 

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I thought I was getting burned out on the comic but it was just because I had gone too long without drawing Hannelore

After more days, I still really like the changes!  It does feel like they are painted cels from an old traditional animated series.  Artists of all mediums have expressive periods similar to Picasso's. :)  This must be the start of a good one from a core artistic sense because every kind of reactions seems present.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheRedMaiden on 08 Aug 2014, 09:25
I guess May will want to become Hanners' companion (or disciple?), and move in with her. This will cause complications. Winslow will become jealous (is it even legal to have a threesome companionship?), and Hanners might not even be interested in a close relationship with May.

May's going to find that basic model humanoid PC her dad sent her forever ago in the closet, believe Hanners to be a robophile, and shenanigans will ensue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Wetman on 08 Aug 2014, 10:19
Ok I like THIS style a bit better. It kept some of the stronger lines from the previous two comics but brought back the actual body types that make QC more realistic. The last two comics had little body type difference besides bust size\shape and height, while this time you can see Hanners and Marigold have gone back to their individual body types. I like that the new eye details were kept but the iris' were made smaller with this new comic. I think that was the only thing that made it look "anime," since the actual size of the eyes have been large for awhile now. This recent comic is more like JJ's gradual progression of his art style and works perfectly, since it adds new elements while keeping some of the old.

I say this most recent comic's new style is a great balance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Aug 2014, 10:25
What I really like is the fact that Jeph is continually evolving his style and doesn't just phone it in with each strip. That shows he's staying engaged, which is the most important thing, and also keeps us engaged. Even if you (anyone) don't like the recent art change, the fact that you've noticed and commented on it proves that it is doing so.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Aug 2014, 12:10
Long time reader, first time poster. Apologies for such a cliched introduction!


Welcome New Person!

Hanners is clingy and suffering from divorce child syndrome, yeah. Selfish and not a friend? Hardly.
You are what your behaviour makes of you, in my opinion. Hannelore is not really behaving as a friend.

I think it's simpler than that. Hanners and Marigold had a dynamic going where Hanners felt entitled to call Marigold out on her anti-social tendencies. Marigold was appreciative of that then. I think Hanners is tapping into that reservoir of previous understanding, perhaps for selfish reasons, but imo a friend relationship should include some provision for "dude, wtf, we used to hang, what gives?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 08 Aug 2014, 12:43
Hannelore is in the right here. It's not healthy for Marigold to hang out with Dale to the exclusion of all her old friends. Sure, she'll have less time for her friends, and I think Hannelore gets that. But no time at all? Not good. At the rate they're going, May has it right - they'll burn out and break up quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: vforvancouver on 08 Aug 2014, 13:52
Wel, I just want to say that today's (Friday the 8th) art is the style I like the most. Save for Marigold's teeth in the last panel, they seem odd, like something from Archie. The eyes are not that big ad Thursday and Wednesday; now they match the rest of Jeph's style quite nicely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Aug 2014, 15:16
I can't imagine Dale having any other reaction to "I'm gonna hang with Hanners tomorrow" than "cool, have fun".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 08 Aug 2014, 15:25
I hope that Marigold doesn't break Hanners with all that sexy talk

Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Aug 2014, 15:31
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Aug 2014, 20:09
With regards to the recent discussion of the art style, I really don't have anything to say, so I'm just going to go with something even better.

I like bacon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Aug 2014, 20:12
Me too, TED. Me too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Aug 2014, 20:27
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Vax456 on 08 Aug 2014, 20:35
Hi JJ.

I've been reading QC since around comic 700-800 or so and this is my first time posting here.  I'm posting for the first time because I wanted to voice my opinion on the last couple strips. 

First of all, like other posters, I got some serious whip-lash from the sudden change in the strip.  I remember the other times QC's artwork took a dramatic change, but the difference is all the other times QC's artwork changed, I would say something like "Oh neat, he's changing up his artstyle again".  This time around, I said to myself, "Whoah!  Okay, wow!  That was... whoah, I wasn't expecting that..."  At first, I thought it was the artwork, but after reading the most recent strips several more times, there's some other dramatic changes going on here I wasn't consciously aware of.

The biggest change that happened in the last couple strips is the Tarantino-like smalltalk is gone, and the tone has been changed to... I don't know how to describe it... a rated G sitcom?

These last couple strips weren't anything JJ hasn't tackled before, it's just the way it's being tackled that's giving me whip-lash.  I'm all for the new art style.  It just needs a couple tweaks.  And really, how many art changes has JJ made that were perfect the first time?  I don't think any art changes were made that didn't require a bunch of tweaking before he got it "just right".

This time around, the comic is sorely lacking the dialogue and pacing.  The dialogue between Hanners and Marigold went from "I miss hanging out with you" in one pane, to "Am I a bad friend?" in the next.  I think that comic needed two more panes with just a couple more sentences to really flesh out that arc.  I think I understand where that reaction came from, and it was with Marigolds last fight with Momo.  Looking at Marigolds history so far, I think that reaction is in-character and a legitimate one (in the QC universe at least).  It just needed a couple more exchanges between Hanners and Marigold to build up to that reaction.  And then the punchline at the end needed a bigger punch-in-the-face.  Maybe after Marigold and Hanners reach an understanding and hug, then a moment of silence for a bit... and then "I really hope you don't mind talking about some sexy stuff, 'cause I got lots of sexy stuff to talk about." --- with Dale standing right there looking mortified and May... being May.

I'm all for a change in QC's art style, even if I don't like it.  There were phases of QC's art style that I didn't like, but I kept eagerly reading through them anyway because the characters and dialogue more than made up for it.  But this time around, I sense a great disturbance in the force.  I find your lack of butt-disease disturbing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Aug 2014, 20:39
Carl you are a bad person for posting that :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 08 Aug 2014, 23:00
Very nice first post. Welcome, new person!
A small request, though, could you call Jeph Jeph? I don't think he goes by any other name - it's just common courtesy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 08 Aug 2014, 23:24
I don't like bacon THAT much... :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiEv on 09 Aug 2014, 00:46
A small request, though, could you call Jeph Jeph? I don't think he goes by any other name - it's just common courtesy.

Actually, he tweets under the name "Nora Jephron (https://twitter.com/jephjacques)", so he does go by another name.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Channelore HellicottAtham on 09 Aug 2014, 00:58
Ok, so slightly more normal in the art style on Friday, but still out-there. The expressions are still kinda baggy.. I know Jeph described this as 'loose', but I see why someone else here described it as lazy. Compared to the awesomeness we've been used to, it does feel slapstick and a little "this'll do". Another poster here commented that the dialogue was thin too, and I agree.. but I honestly cannot tell if that is because the art feels slapstick so therefore I am biased to interpret the dialogue as 'loose' and slapped-together, too.

Yes, Marigold did immediately jump to the bad friend conclusion kinda suddenly, but she's only recently gained a set of friends herself and was pretty socially dysfunctional herself before Momo befriended Pintsize & Winslow. Still, given how blinded by love she has been recently, it's surprising for her to not only pull her head outta her own arse quickly enough to recognise how she's neglected her friends and to give Hanners the time of day, but to then jump a step further and conclude that she's been a bad friend. Feels.. rushed.

With the new comic in development I do hope Jeph is not becoming bored with the QC world...  :-\ :-( :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Aug 2014, 00:59
Nice first post.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Aug 2014, 09:46
Okay now I recognize the look Hanners had with May a few strips back.......just I forgot the webcomics name.

Whats the one with the lunkheaded Squirrel-Chick who gets smart when her sisters are around at the same time?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoutfellow on 09 Aug 2014, 11:57
"Sequential Art".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Aug 2014, 12:01
Carl you are a bad person for posting that :psyduck:

I can live with that.   :angel:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 09 Aug 2014, 19:14
Yay! to Marigold for not wanting to be a bad friend.

Hannelore -does- have a sex life. It just takes place entirely in her head.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 Aug 2014, 23:06
Nice first post.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 10 Aug 2014, 18:05
Yay! to Marigold for not wanting to be a bad friend.

Hannelore -does- have a sex life. It just takes place entirely in her head.

Much tidier that way. The only things that get dirty are her thoughts. Dirty dirty thoughts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Aug 2014, 16:47
Explains the giant rapping penis, though. 


On second thought, nothing really explains that. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2761-2765 (4-8 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Aug 2014, 22:54
That Comic is a figment of your imagination