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Title: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Sep 2014, 19:09
There wasn't a WCDT when I started this. If another appeared at the same time, may the best poll win.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Sep 2014, 19:28
Hopefully not coffee critic, he doesn't know shit about coffee.

Edit: Comic's up! About Tai'm they address this. (preemptively smashes pun jar before someone complains)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Sep 2014, 20:02
Someday Tai will disappear and when they ask in the university no one will know who she is.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Sep 2014, 20:04
Future spoiler:
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Sep 2014, 20:06
I'm expecting Marten to ask Tai, only to have her freak out when she realises she doesn't know, and hasn't been to a class in months

Once in a blue moon I'll have a dream where I'm back in university, and realise I haven't been to certain classes in months, or that I haven't done anything on an essay that's due in a few days.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Sep 2014, 20:16
or that I haven't done anything on an essay that's due in a few days.
A few days? That's plenty of time!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Sep 2014, 20:18
Those sorts of dreams have become replaced in my subconscious by dreams about the lab equipment blowing up for various reasons (such as the city being blown away by a tornado).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 07 Sep 2014, 20:20
Those samples I sent to the physics lab to be irradiated in the tank-reactor?   TOTALLY forgot about them now they are ruined and I am not going to finish my paper --- ALARM CLOCK HAHAHAH WOO GRADUATED 15 YEARS AGO NEVERMIND.   Goddamn anxiety.   :-\
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Sep 2014, 20:53
Modern education system is a traumatic experience...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 07 Sep 2014, 21:16
pfft. I still have night mares of high school. Though they usually take place in some high school I've never seen much less attended. I actually found the school I got my degree at (trade school, not college) was more annoyance producing instead of anxiety inducing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 07 Sep 2014, 21:59
You had nocturnal equines in high school?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Sep 2014, 22:02
I see what you did there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 07 Sep 2014, 23:21
I'm not sure that's even a pun. One Claire out of five.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Sep 2014, 00:38
Once in a blue moon I'll have a dream where I'm back in university, and realise I haven't been to certain classes in months, or that I haven't done anything on an essay that's due in a few days.
I have the same dream quite frequently, although I graduated years ago. I guess I was frequently behind schedule.

That said, I find it improbable that Tai and Marten have not discussed the progress in her studies, and her future plans.
I'm expecting Marten to ask Tai, only to have her freak out when she realises she doesn't know, and hasn't been to a class in months
It is a possibility. AFAIK, Tai has never mentioned her studies. Either she has dropped out (and the System is not aware of it yet), or she is hard at work, studying whenever she is not at the Library or with her friends. Either way, she does not want to involve her friends in this part of her life.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Sep 2014, 00:48
Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

It's cute how concerned Claire is about not getting to work with Marten any more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 08 Sep 2014, 03:20
It's cute how concerned Claire is about not getting to work with Marten any more.
Yes, but I guess this is the prelude to some shakeup. Tai may graduate and find another job (or be fired because she dropped out of her studies). Without Tai to protect him, Marten will be fired because he is not really qualified for his job (unless Claire gets Tai's job and continues to employ Marten). But I really think it is time for Marten to try to find another job. Then he could also start dating Emily  :-D

I like the "librarianing" term. It is Claire's dream job, as evident here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2208).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Sep 2014, 04:00
I don't see how Marten isn't qualified for his job. He's a library assistant. He puts things on shelves, he uses a computer, he tidies up and tells people to stop messing around. What qualifications do you actually need for that?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 08 Sep 2014, 04:04
I suspect that the job description likely requires a bachelor's degree in a related field, and his is not related.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 08 Sep 2014, 04:53
I suspect that the job description likely requires a bachelor's degree in a related field, and his is not related.

Well, these these (http://www.uea.ac.uk/hr/vacancies/secretarial-clerical/-/asset_publisher/Pq1VmiPNOopH/content/information-assistant-2-posts-?_101_INSTANCE_Pq1VmiPNOopH_redirect=%2Fweb%2Fhr%2Fvacancies%2Fsecretarial-clerica) university library jobs seem to be a similar level to Marten's, and only require averageish school qualifications and no degree.

Though I suspect an applicant with no degree hasn't the proverbial snowball's in hell as there'll be avalanche of applications from unemployed graduates.  Including the unambitious who liked the student lifestyle and think a university job is a low-stress, ersatz way of continuing it.

I would say having an unrelated degree would be little hindrance to getting one of these jobs, though it would be a hindrance to being promoted to better jobs within the library.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rhymeless on 08 Sep 2014, 06:13
I think BH is correct. A lot of assistant librarian jobs where I live require at least an associate's degree (really, in library sciences? wha wha?) and the people with the title "Librarian" all carry bachelor's degrees.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 08 Sep 2014, 06:29
My wife is (for the past few years, but not much longer) the Deputy Director of a university library without any kind of librarianship qualification or experience....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Sep 2014, 06:58
*shrugs* Really it depends on who's hiring and what they do that determines requirements. I worked in a library once as an assistant through a temporary employment service. I never had any qualifications beyond 'able to understand basic English and take direction'. That was a research company's library though, not a public library or school library.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Sep 2014, 07:33
Marten is above the usual pay scale, which puts a target on his back the next time someone wants to cut the budget. The trustees can only protect him if they know about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 08 Sep 2014, 08:36
Marten's gonna be fired and end up an office bitch again. It's the only other job he has experience in and is therefore qualified for.

Hope he still has dress shirts, or at least polo shirts, and slacks.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 08 Sep 2014, 09:10
Several of my friends worked in the city library while they were in high school. There were two or three librarians, who were in charge and talked to visitors and stuff, then the teenagers would stock shelves and do chores. Marten doesn't have much bigger responsibilities than that (other than 'train interns' maybe), so it seems realistic to me.

Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Well, that has interesting implications about Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Sep 2014, 09:38
I frequently have the "I've been blowing off [obscure calculus class] the entire quarter and my wife won't let me see her notes so I'm going into the exam cold" dream.
Sometimes I ace the exam.
Sometimes a plane crashes on the exam room.
Usually I wake up in a cold sweat.

Let's step back and look at timeline... Marten's been in this job for only about a 18 mos in-comic, maybe 2 years. He's in his early 20s. This is still dues-paying territory for him, career-wise. Plenty of time for him to get noticed as That Guy At The Library Who Gets Tai's Shit Done So She Can Smoke Pot, Watch Adventure Time, And Dig Up Dirt On Trustees (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30031.msg1257910.html#msg1257910).

Besides, as much fun as it is to try to figure out Marten's prospects as a Professional and in his Career, we're kind of missing the point. Not to sound defeatist or anything, but Marten will get Initiative or a Big Break *When Jeph Wants To Tell That Story*. Jeph may never want to tell that story leaving Marten as a perpetual kind of man-child on the cusp...or Something will Happen.

Sorry, I'm feeling Title-Case-Ish today.

Devious Plot Twist: Marten goes to New York to be a PA (Production Assistant) on Angus' show. discuss?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 08 Sep 2014, 09:46
Marten has an enormous advantage over applicants who do have a relevant degree though - he already has the job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Sep 2014, 09:49
Incumbency has its benefits.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 Sep 2014, 10:11
Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Can't be. Tai has spoken to other people than Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 08 Sep 2014, 10:23
If there were an "other" on this poll, I would definitely choose "motivational speaker."

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2403 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2403)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 08 Sep 2014, 12:26
Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Well, that has interesting implications about Dora.

Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 08 Sep 2014, 13:44

Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Well, that has interesting implications about Dora.

Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.

That is an interesting idea, and it would explain how this is all 20 minutes in to the future for some things but not others...


Questions, comments, queries , problems, bitches, rude gestures and/or remarks
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2014, 13:53
Also, Marten is Froglord's alter ego. I think I've said this before, but Froglord is almost certainly the distant ancestor to the Hypnotoad.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Sep 2014, 14:08
Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Well, that has interesting implications about Dora.

Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.
The final QC shows Vicki crying over her lost love as the family debates whether to pull the plug.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 Sep 2014, 14:59
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1275
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 08 Sep 2014, 15:20
Next Comic

Claire finally reveals her Sith powers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Sep 2014, 15:31

Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.

Unfortunately Marten's real life persona is some Steven Segal character, who, upon awakening, will lumber around, seeking revenge on somebody or other, in an embarrassing action, because he doesn't have the martial arts chops anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Sep 2014, 15:50
Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Well, that has interesting implications about Dora.

Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.
The final QC shows Vicki crying over her lost love as the family debates whether to pull the plug.  :psyduck:

QC IS NOT ST ELSEWHERE. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/StElsewhere)

Now, stop that. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2014, 15:53
Maybe St. Elsewhere is QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 08 Sep 2014, 16:54
Tai is actually Marten's alter ego Fight Club style.

Well, that has interesting implications about Dora.

Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.
The final QC shows Vicki crying over her lost love as the family debates whether to pull the plug.  :psyduck:

QC IS NOT ST ELSEWHERE. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/StElsewhere)

Now, stop that. 

Still waiting for them to tie Dragonball Z into St. Elsewhere, but it's a good start otherwise…
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 08 Sep 2014, 18:16
How long has Marten (or an avatar thereof) worked at the library?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2014, 18:24
About 2100 strips. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: thecaitycat on 08 Sep 2014, 18:30
I'd like to see Marten as an accidental life coach.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2014, 18:38
Oh god, I just looked at that and apparently he actually works at Smith College. I wonder if the Smif shirts are just a jokey thing even in-universe and it really is Smith!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 08 Sep 2014, 19:13
Sounds like Marten's going to need at least four or five fancy beers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 Sep 2014, 19:42
Add the renting of a dapper Victorian suit to those fancy beers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Sep 2014, 19:47
Wait, you have to pay for those outfits? I thought they came with the drinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Sep 2014, 19:51
Neither, they're available for the wearin' whenever the need arises. 


Which is why Hanners won't go near 'em. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 08 Sep 2014, 21:13
I'm not sure that's even a pun. One Claire out of five.  :claireface:

I was just pointing that he wrote "night mare" instead of "nightmare"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 08 Sep 2014, 21:20
Dora is also Marten's alter ego. So is Faye. Everyone in QC is a figment of Marten's imagination. Marten has actually been in a coma in a hospital in Sacramento for the past ten years and QC is just a dream he's having.

Machines took over the world and humans are in chambers living in simulations now. Pintsize is responsible for Marten's simulation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 08 Sep 2014, 21:53
Guys, remember Momo works at the library now too. As a user-friendly interface to the library's databases. She's always courteous and helpful, in her self-appointed role as Ambassador to Meatfolk. If there's something she doesn't know, she can network with the larger AI community. In a rational universe, Tai would be canned in 5 seconds and Marten and his intern crew would be working for Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 08 Sep 2014, 22:16
Oooorrr they don't fire Tai because she has been completely competent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 Sep 2014, 23:28
Doesn't Tai live in a dorm?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 08 Sep 2014, 23:35
Oh god, I just looked at that and apparently he actually works at Smith College. I wonder if the Smif shirts are just a jokey thing even in-universe and it really is Smith!
IIRC Jeph explained that Smif is the QC-Verse equivalent of Smith. So In-Universe there is no Smith.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Sep 2014, 23:38
Tai was in a dorm early on but the place she took Dora looked like a house.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 08 Sep 2014, 23:50
Yeah, but that was her friends place where the party was at/

I think it's more likely she crashes at Doras place now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 08 Sep 2014, 23:51
Oh god, I just looked at that and apparently he actually works at Smith College. I wonder if the Smif shirts are just a jokey thing even in-universe and it really is Smith!
Apparently calling Smith College "Smif" is so common in the real world that if you do a web search for "Smif College" you get results for Smith College, and if you go to Wikipedia and type in Smif it takes you to Smith College with a notice:
"Smif" redirects here. For the interface, see SMIF (interface).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Sep 2014, 23:56
Oooorrr they don't fire Tai because she has been completely competent.

Oooooooorrr she has that much dirt. We've seen Tai work. If she was my employee and she didn't have black mail her ass would have been out the door before she ever met Marten-friend and company.

So today's strip might have just induced a minor panic attack into Marten. Which might be good. Catalyst for change upon realizing the closest thing he has to stability is in fact a house of cards on fire in a hurricane?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 09 Sep 2014, 02:36
More like The Gradubaked, eh Tai?

Tai's position has been left ambiguous all along. She's referred to being a TA, which would normally mean she was a grad. student working on a Master's, but at the beginning at least she was living in a dorm. So who knows what "graduation" she's talking about?

With regard to qualifications, let's not forget that Marten is a graduate, though not in Library Science. He has a degree in Music History & Critical Theory (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=276).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 09 Sep 2014, 03:08
I find it interesting to see how employment laws in different countries shape people's attitudes towards Marten's job. Here in the UK, you can't just fire someone because you've decided someone else would be cheaper and equally competent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 09 Sep 2014, 03:53
Some SMIF library trivia:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 09 Sep 2014, 04:00
I find it interesting to see how employment laws in different countries shape people's attitudes towards Marten's job. Here in the UK, you can't just fire someone because you've decided someone else would be cheaper and equally competent.

Ah here in the United States we have "At Will" employment.   Competence has nothing to do with anything -- it all comes down the whims of the person that has the authority to hire/fire.  This leads to some mighty F-ed up companies as you get the wrong sort making the decision and blamo.   

As for cost...  many companies won't hesitate to fire someone if they think they've found someone to do the job for a nickle cheaper. 

This depressing group of facts brought to you by Plastic-Fantastic Consulting Group.    :-\
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 09 Sep 2014, 04:17

Ah here in the United States we have "At Will" employment.   Competence has nothing to do with anything -- it all comes down the whims of the person that has the authority to hire/fire.  This leads to some mighty F-ed up companies as you get the wrong sort making the decision and blamo. 
Oh, it gets "better" than that.  A lot of times, they'll just force people to quit so they don't have to deal with paying unemployment.  So they'll do things like schedule people for hours that they can't work, or cut hours to the point where the employee would starve if they didn't start working somewhere else, and *then* initiate a scheduling conflict.  At more than one job I've been fired from, near the end, I'd get calls from the mangler saying that I was "an hour late", despite not being scheduled until three hours later, or suddenly changing the schedule after it was printed out so I'd get canned for "not showing up".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 09 Sep 2014, 04:25
There are, however, some things you can't do to get rid of someone in the US. For example, a manager at a company I used to work for found out the hard way that you can't fire someone for taking too much sick leave when the sick leave was due to an on-the-job injury. Or at least, if that's why you're firing them, you shouldn't put it in writing. Which this idiot manager did. The company's lawyers advised settling the resulting lawsuit for a generous sum.

Oddly enough, the manager kept his job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 09 Sep 2014, 06:23
More like The Gradubaked, eh Tai?

Tai's position has been left ambiguous all along. She's referred to being a TA, which would normally mean she was a grad. student working on a Master's, but at the beginning at least she was living in a dorm. So who knows what "graduation" she's talking about?

With regard to qualifications, let's not forget that Marten is a graduate, though not in Library Science. He has a degree in Music History & Critical Theory (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=276).

I've wondered before and I wonder again: Are we to understand Marten's degree to be in Music History & MUSICAL Critical Theory? Or a dual-major/concentration sort of thing in Music History and plain old Critical Theory. Because the latter, without a further modifier, suggests to me that half his major is in literary/social theorists like Foucault, Zizek, Lacan, Bloom, de Man, Derrida, Jameson, Edelman, etc., etc. Which I've never heard of someone getting a B.A. in specifically. I think you'd generally have to get a degree in English or Comp Lit for that stuff to even be on your radar.

So basically, does Marten have an English or at least Englishy degree?

Because if he does have a background in that, he's got options, believe it or not. I completed a B.A. in English during which I dabbled in theory and such, then took two years off to live in Northampton, tend bar, work on my writing skills, and hook up with Smith students -- then, BAM, I applied for and got a teaching fellowship that waived tuition for my Masters and paid a good enough stipend to live on.  As Much as Marten has the kind of degree that people imagine to be worthless in the "real world," it's very possible he could parlay it into something real and life-building. He might have abandoned his blog a bit too quickly, but at least he has shown aptitude for writing. Combine that with a B.A. in a relevant field, and you can find work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Roborat on 09 Sep 2014, 11:21
Speaking of art style, I like how Jeph carefully kept Tai's left elbow out of camera, so he didn't have to draw the star tattoo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Sep 2014, 12:50
Speaking of art style, I like how Jeph carefully kept Tai's left elbow out of camera, so he didn't have to draw the star tattoo.

Please let this not be a sign he's gone Liefielding. (http://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 09 Sep 2014, 14:10
Nah, if he'd gone Liefield then Tai would have breasts bigger than the rest of her body. And much less clothing, the better to show off said breasts.

I don't even want to know how Liefield would draw Faye.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Sep 2014, 14:21
I don't even want to know how Liefield would draw Faye.  :psyduck:
The universe is not large enough.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 09 Sep 2014, 15:13
There are, however, some things you can't do to get rid of someone in the US. For example, a manager at a company I used to work for found out the hard way that you can't fire someone for taking too much sick leave when the sick leave was due to an on-the-job injury. Or at least, if that's why you're firing them, you shouldn't put it in writing. Which this idiot manager did. The company's lawyers advised settling the resulting lawsuit for a generous sum.

Oddly enough, the manager kept his job.

In my case it was over a health-and-safety complaint.   A valid one -- please do not use my area to store cardboard and wood waste.    My machines at the time had electrical issues and were known to arc to ground and throw sparks.     A perfectly sane normal manager who had not developed a taste for hard liquor after sleeping her way to the top of the pecking order would have simply said "Absolutely right,  lets post a sign, put a rope across the area and enforce the rule that already exists. "

Instead, she fired me in writing... stating that she would not tolerate OSHA related threats and that the company did not believe that health and safety was a serious enough concern to warrant any investment in resources or time.      Needless to say OSHA had a field-day with that to the tune of $150,000 in fines.     My settlement was roughly twice that after the lawyer took his share.

Anyway,  I'm sure many of us have horror stories from both sides of the desk.    Maybe this would be a good spin-off-thread for another part of the forum.  ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 09 Sep 2014, 15:18
A lot of times, they'll just force people to quit so they don't have to deal with paying unemployment.
This tactic is quite popular in Australia too, despite our employment-protection laws. Basically it boils down to a "paperwork arms-race". Employers need to document your "failings" to avoid veering into "constructive dismissal" or "unfair dismissal" territory, and you need to document their unreasonable behaviour. Often, once you demonstrate your determination to, for example, photograph the schedule before you go home at the end of your shift every night, they go and find someone else to fire. It is the old "I don't need to outrun the bear; I only need to outrun you" situation.

I've wondered before and I wonder again: Are we to understand Marten's degree to be in Music History & MUSICAL Critical Theory?
Good question. Marten's never been one for literary references much. I don't know to what extent Critical Theory is/has been applied to music as well as literature. Then there is the difference between what you study, and what they put on your diploma/degree. Insofar as "early Marten" was, to some extent, based on Jeph Jaques himself, we should consider that he holds a degree in Music.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Sep 2014, 16:42
Oh god, I just looked at that and apparently he actually works at Smith College. I wonder if the Smif shirts are just a jokey thing even in-universe and it really is Smith!
IIRC Jeph explained that Smif is the QC-Verse equivalent of Smith. So In-Universe there is no Smith.
Yeah, but 691 has "Smith College" on the sign. Other than apparel (which like I said could be an in-universe joke), is there any canon mention of the school actually being called Smif?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Sep 2014, 17:00
I remember first finding the forums, and seeing SMF at the bottom of the page, thought "Smif" was a reference...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Sep 2014, 17:02
Simple Machines Internet Forum :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 09 Sep 2014, 19:37
I remember first finding the forums, and seeing SMF at the bottom of the page, thought "Smif" was a reference...
SadoMasochism Forum :veronicsface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 Sep 2014, 19:40
Jesus's ass kind of looks like the Virgin Lincoln.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 10 Sep 2014, 00:22
Hmm.  :?

Any fellow male here who would actually pass on looking at a cute ladies behind if they get an offer like that ?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 10 Sep 2014, 00:30
Yes, if it risked making the whole relationship awkward.

People may have many reasons to not accept an offer like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Doc on 10 Sep 2014, 01:23
If the birthmark can do the Gettysburg speech I would like to see it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Sep 2014, 01:51
If that could cause awkwardness, the piercing studio already would have.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Sep 2014, 02:00
Hmm.  :?

Any fellow male here who would actually pass on looking at a cute ladies behind if they get an offer like that ?

Wouldn't it be a potential sexual harassment situation?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Sep 2014, 02:02
If that could cause awkwardness, the piercing studio already would have.

Well, it did, didn't it? Marten did not seem very comfortable in that studio.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to feel awkward.

I do, I do!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 10 Sep 2014, 03:40
Hmm.  :?

Any fellow male here who would actually pass on looking at a cute ladies behind if they get an offer like that ?

Yes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 10 Sep 2014, 03:51
Any fellow male here who would actually pass on looking at a cute ladies behind if they get an offer like that ?
I do not get such offers, so I don't really know. That aside, Marten has seen Tai's private parts before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1247). As Tai for obvious reasons is not on Marten's list of potential sexual partners, I guess he is just not very interested. If he wants to look at butts, the Internet is readily available.

Besides, what would happen if Dora came in while Marten was inspecting Tai's butt? I guess he thinks it is better to be on the safe side.

Another question is why Tai is happy to flash her private parts in front of Marten. Tai is supposed to be exclusively lesbian, so why is she comfortable doing it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Sep 2014, 04:08
I'd look, I'm a history person.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 10 Sep 2014, 04:17
Another question is why Tai is happy to flash her private parts in front of Marten. Tai is supposed to be exclusively lesbian, so why is she comfortable doing it?
I've known a few women who were quite comfortable with casual nudity around men they trusted.  Some people just have looser boundaries than others.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 10 Sep 2014, 04:43
Another question is why Tai is happy to flash her private parts in front of Marten. Tai is supposed to be exclusively lesbian, so why is she comfortable doing it?

Maybe for that very reason? She does not find the situation sexually loaded at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 10 Sep 2014, 04:44
Another question is why Tai is happy to flash her private parts in front of Marten. Tai is supposed to be exclusively lesbian, so why is she comfortable doing it?
I think the more important question is why you think nudity, or even bare skin, is inherently sexual enough that being so around someone who isn't of the gender you fancy should be enough cause for a third party to question your orientation?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 10 Sep 2014, 04:46
Tai was in a dorm early on but the place she took Dora looked like a house.

Yeah, but that was her friends place where the party was at/

I think it's more likely she crashes at Doras place now.

I don't think so. Dora agrees to walk her home. And Dora picks her up there for their first date. This is where she lives.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 10 Sep 2014, 05:33
Another question is why Tai is happy to flash her private parts in front of Marten. Tai is supposed to be exclusively lesbian, so why is she comfortable doing it?
I think the more important question is why you think nudity, or even bare skin, is inherently sexual enough that being so around someone who isn't of the gender you fancy should be enough cause for a third party to question your orientation?
I am not sure I understand your argument. My assumption was that a lesbian would not be comfortable with causing sexual arousal in a male. It may be because Tai and Marten are good friends, and Tai thinks he is not sexually interested in her. Still, Marten is a hetero male, and may think otherwise. Just check strip #1250 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1250).

It may also be just the way Tai normally behaves. She has done this before (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1915).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 Sep 2014, 07:36
Hmm.  :?

Any fellow male here who would actually pass on looking at a cute ladies behind if they get an offer like that ?

Not when you're in the workplace and not when the lady in question is your supervisor, which would be highly unprofessional. And such behaviour can be construed as sexual harassment by Tai towards Marten. Which is also highly unprofessional.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 10 Sep 2014, 11:50
As a gay female, I would not pass up the offer to see a cute lady's behind, but I am not Marten. Marten has much different boundaries when it comes to nudity and related activities than I do.  I am also decidedly unprofessional, at least when it comes to coworkers I am friendly with. If it was a customer, the rules would be different. I am extremely professional when it comes to clients.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 10 Sep 2014, 12:58
I would probably pass on seeing someone's bottom in that context even if I'd be very happy to see it in another, more private, context.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Sep 2014, 14:01
...yeah, my answer would probably be "maybe later". 


Knowing full well that a dedicated stoner like Tai would forget. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 10 Sep 2014, 15:02
@KOK

K


"Honest Abe my ass."
"Exactly!!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 10 Sep 2014, 19:07
I'm wondering if the birthmark is Lincoln in profile, or Lincoln as he appears at his memorial.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 10 Sep 2014, 19:19
Or maybe Claire came to the library on her day off to see Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 10 Sep 2014, 19:30
I had the opposite problem as Claire once.  I came into my usual shift on my part time job and I was told "Did you know you've been AWOL for 2 days?"  They gave me a temporary full time position, but no one bothered to tell me.  I was irritated because everybody assumed I'd take it, which I did because I needed the money, but was irritated because no one bothered to be polite enough to ask me if I wanted it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 10 Sep 2014, 19:38
Tai! No bullying the interns!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 10 Sep 2014, 19:59
Maybe Tai is just being "protective" of Marten.  I've had people from friends to cow-orkers, to exes try to "protect" me from people they didn't think would make a good fit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Sep 2014, 20:01
I think Tai would be more direct.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 10 Sep 2014, 20:39
Sounds like gentle ribbing to me, especially given the way Marten was hired (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=691) in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 10 Sep 2014, 21:32
And the comic after that one shows that "Smif" is canonical.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 10 Sep 2014, 21:41
Oh. Ok, so that sign in 691 was probably a mistake then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 10 Sep 2014, 22:30
Doesn't anyone bother reading my posts (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30088.msg1264457.html#msg1264457)?

Just do a web search for Smif College or go to Wikipedia and type in Smif and see for yourselves.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 10 Sep 2014, 23:02
"her" day off.

OTOH:
Quote
Someone who...is trying to eliminate gender-laden pronouns from their speech altogether can try to rely on the word "they", but they will find themself in quite a pickle as soon as they try to use any reflexive verbal construction such as "the writer will paint themselves into a corner", and what's worse is that no matter how this person tries, they'll find that they can't extricate themselves gracefully, and consequently he or she will just flail around, making his or her sentence so awkward that s/he wis/hes s/he had never become conscious of these issues of sexism.  Obviously, using "they" just carries you from the frying pan into the fire, as you have merely exchanged a male-female ambiguity for a singular-plural ambiguity.  The only advantage to this ploy is, I suppose, that there is/are, to my knowledge, no group(s) actively struggling for equality between singular and plural. - D. Hofstadter
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Sep 2014, 23:18
Claire is a woman who identifies as female, and prefers to be spoken of using female pronouns. So what's your point?


In other news I investigated my local library. It's devoid of cute redheads so far. My hopes and dreams aren't shattered, but they are fragmenting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 10 Sep 2014, 23:26
"her" day off.

OTOH:
Quote
Someone who...is trying to eliminate gender-laden pronouns from their speech altogether can try to rely on the word "they", but they will find themself in quite a pickle as soon as they try to use any reflexive verbal construction such as "the writer will paint themselves into a corner", and what's worse is that no matter how this person tries, they'll find that they can't extricate themselves gracefully, and consequently he or she will just flail around, making his or her sentence so awkward that s/he wis/hes s/he had never become conscious of these issues of sexism.  Obviously, using "they" just carries you from the frying pan into the fire, as you have merely exchanged a male-female ambiguity for a singular-plural ambiguity.  The only advantage to this ploy is, I suppose, that there is/are, to my knowledge, no group(s) actively struggling for equality between singular and plural. - D. Hofstadter

I think Marten would be annoyed at being called "her."

I don't think Marten saying "Smif" in 692 should be taken as evidence.  He's just sort of used to the joke, like with "Wistah."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mikmaxs on 10 Sep 2014, 23:29
Right next to each other, I immediately assumed Claire was washed out before I realized oh, wait, she's a slightly lighter but almost identical color scheme to Tai. Her hair is the same color but a bit lighter, her skin is the same color but a bit lighter, her glasses are a light pink instead of black... The eyes are just different colors (Though Claire's are lighter) and the shirts are different, but she just looks really pale and that was funny to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 10 Sep 2014, 23:30
"her" day off.

I think Tai used the plural "their" because she was referring collectively to the other interns/Momo, who presumably have the day off given that they aren't present, rather than just Claire specifically. If Gabby and Claire have the day off, it is their day off. Ergo if one of them shows up regardless (As Claire did), referring then to "people here on their day off" refers not only to the present party, but the absent one, also. Q.E.D

It's a bit of a fumbling turn of phrase if you think about it, but hey, Tai's probably baked anyhow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 10 Sep 2014, 23:45
That's some pretty normal speech on Tai's part. And she doesn't know anyway(I used to think she might in my headcanon, being Claire's boss, but at one point I think the comic contradicted that) so she wouldn't have a reason to force that kind of speech.

If it is bad grammar, which I don't THINK it is, but if it is then it's normal everyday bad grammar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 10 Sep 2014, 23:47
Or she is, for some reason, used talking to and about nonbinary people, so she uses the turn of phrase automatically, even when she doesn't have reason to assume she is talking to a nonbinary person.

Or it's local slang.

Or, yeah, what neurocase explained.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 11 Sep 2014, 00:03
If it is bad grammar, which I don't THINK it is, but if it is then it's normal everyday bad grammar.
It is, and it is.

It's still painful to read.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2014, 00:15
(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f50/Kugai2/GrammarPolice.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 11 Sep 2014, 00:39
Claire FTW!

:claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 11 Sep 2014, 00:42
I know a couple of people like Claire. They just love their jobs so much that they spend most of their wake hours there, without getting extra pay, and without having a huge load of work that must be finished before the deadline.

Regarding Tai's dream job: I guess she would like to write something like "Fifty Shades of Grey", become famous, and earn a shitload of money. However, Tai is also quite realistic, and knows too well that this is not going to happen. Therefore, she is happy with the job she has, and is not worrying about it. The erotica she is writing is just a hobby for her.

Marten, on the other hand, dreams about becoming a rock star (or, at least, playing in a reasonably good band (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2055)). But he is not as realistic as Tai, and is still believing in his dream. Therefore, he is not too happy with his job at the library, always wanting to do something else for a living.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 11 Sep 2014, 00:58
I say "their" to refer to an individual without any particular motivation to disguise their gender, but simply because their gender often isn't relevant. It's not bad grammar; rules shift over time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Sep 2014, 01:02
There's also the clunkier use of "one" as a singular animate gender-neutral pronoun. But, it would feel really, really clunky in Tai's sentence.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2014, 02:41
If it is bad grammar, which I don't THINK it is, but if it is then it's normal everyday bad grammar.
It is sad to see people still whining about the singular use of "their". It is not a new thing. Shakespeare used it, and so did Jane Austen. Presumably the historically-myopic grammar-police think they know better.

Jobs you take, for example for urgent financial reasons, that are not your dream job, can turn into one. Your own attitude is the key.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 11 Sep 2014, 03:34
Whow, I caused quite a lot of answers !


Yes, if it risked making the whole relationship awkward.
Yes, right.

But ... but ... cute lady butt !!! *awwwww*



Wouldn't it be a potential sexual harassment situation?
How so ?!? She offered.



I do not get such offers, so I don't really know.
Well ... neither do I.



They gave me a temporary full time position, but no one bothered to tell me.
LOL
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 11 Sep 2014, 03:39
If it is bad grammar, which I don't THINK it is, but if it is then it's normal everyday bad grammar.
It is sad to see people still whining about the singular use of "their". It is not a new thing. Shakespeare used it, and so did Jane Austen. Presumably the historically-myopic grammar-police think they know better.
Please, do not turn this discussion into grammar details. I would like to point out that there are several variants of English. Regional differences and slang often cause misunderstandings. Also, several of the Forum participants (myself included) do not have English as their native language. All languages change over time and across regions or social groups. There are no universal truths in grammar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LackOfGrace on 11 Sep 2014, 03:45
Me associating with Marten has risen me from the deep lurk swamp.
Impostor syndrome is no fun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Sep 2014, 04:10
Maybe Tai is just being "protective" of Marten.  I've had people from friends to cow-orkers, to exes try to "protect" me from people they didn't think would make a good fit.

Tai has tried to push Marten towards (at least one of) the interns before, so I doubt she would try to hinder any such development. It wouldn't fit well with her character, I think. She'd probably love to see Claire come on to Marten, even if it just resulted in getting to see a flustered Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Sep 2014, 04:11
Wouldn't it be a potential sexual harassment situation?
How so ?!? She offered.
Which means that she's the one potentially sexually harassing Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SuctionCup Caper Two on 11 Sep 2014, 04:12
Wouldn't it be a potential sexual harassment situation?
How so ?!? She offered.
[/quote]




Sexual Harassment policies and laws are not designed to be fair and logical.   They are designed to "protect women" by punishing men.    Often by terminating said man without an investigation.   Many many women have taken advantage of such ambiguity over the years to wreck entire companies and destroy the careers of men for no reason...  far more than the number of women actually protected from legit harassment.   

Can't change the laws or rewrite policy,  because then you are anti-women-rights and a hater.    :-\

(IICIH speaking. I have sent this person a PM asking if he or she is Million Dollar Belt Sander.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Sep 2014, 04:35
Sexual harassment is NOT simply about men abusing women - it's about any kind of unwanted sexual attention, regardless of the gender of both the haresser and the victim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Sep 2014, 05:17
OTOH:
Quote
Someone who...is trying to eliminate gender-laden pronouns from their speech altogether can try to rely on the word "they", but they will find themself in quite a pickle as soon as they try to use any reflexive verbal construction such as "the writer will paint themselves into a corner", and what's worse is that no matter how this person tries, they'll find that they can't extricate themselves gracefully, and consequently he or she will just flail around, making his or her sentence so awkward that s/he wis/hes s/he had never become conscious of these issues of sexism.  Obviously, using "they" just carries you from the frying pan into the fire, as you have merely exchanged a male-female ambiguity for a singular-plural ambiguity.  The only advantage to this ploy is, I suppose, that there is/are, to my knowledge, no group(s) actively struggling for equality between singular and plural. - D. Hofstadter
What's wrong with some singular-plural ambiguity? English already has that in the second-person pronoun "you" (which originally was a plural that had a double usage as a formal singular.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Sep 2014, 05:50
OK, let me summarize: The problem is that English has no distinct singular gender-indeterminate pronoun. The old rule of using the masculine pronoun for a gender-indeterminate pronoun is no longer acceptable to many people. Various people have proposed new pronouns as solutions to this, but none of them have caught on. Meanwhile, many English speakers have chosen to solve this problem by adopting the plural "they" as a singular gender-indeterminate pronoun. This practice is becoming so widespread that efforts by traditionalist grammarians to stop it are probably doomed to failure.

In short, Tai spoke in this comic the way lots of people actually speak. Whether it is grammatically correct or not is beside the point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Sep 2014, 05:59
OK, let me summarize: The problem is that English has no distinct singular gender-indeterminate pronoun. The old rule of using the masculine pronoun for a gender-indeterminate pronoun is no longer acceptable to many people. Various people have proposed new pronouns as solutions to this, but none of them have caught on. Meanwhile, many English speakers have chosen to solve this problem by adopting the plural "they" as a singular gender-indeterminate pronoun. This practice is becoming so widespread that efforts by traditionalist grammarians to stop it are probably doomed to failure.

In short, Tai spoke in this comic the way lots of people actually speak. Whether it is grammatically correct or not is beside the point.
Yes, I know. I'm arguing that there's nothing wrong with this practice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Sep 2014, 06:05
I wasn't implying that there was anything wrong with it - quite the opposite, in fact. My post was in response to the entire thread.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Sep 2014, 06:24
Ah, okay. I thought you were directly replying to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Sep 2014, 06:58
Simply put, languages are constantly evolving. We're just seeing an example of that here.
For a similar change, check out how "Thou" and "you" have changed over the years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 11 Sep 2014, 10:08
It is sad to see people still whining about the singular use of "their". It is not a new thing. Shakespeare used it, and so did Jane Austen. Presumably the historically-myopic grammar-police think they know better.
(click to show/hide)
Sorry.
Or maybe not.
Sorry about that, eh.
WRT to the evolution of Language, Grammarians [Aliens from the planet Gram?] try and wrest control like they seem to do on a continuing basis with official French, but English makes wrestling with a vat full of assorted Octopodes seem tame and less hazardous in comparison.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: themacnut on 11 Sep 2014, 10:35
Heh. You think there are issues referring to the gender of someone trans* like Claire now, just wait 'til medical knowledge and tech advances to the point where the average person can change their gender at will, or even become both genders or NO gender without medical or psychological problems. The old "he/she" will fail utterly to describe such people, a whole new set of pronouns will have to be invented. And I haven't even talked about AIs who get tired of being called "it"....

Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2014, 10:58
I use to be a paid grammar cop, and had no problem with insisting paid professional communicators be conversant with and adept in the rules regarding the use of the primary tool of their trade. I would, however, countenance bending the rules for clarity's sake, necessary a depressing number of times in English. One thing I wouldn't mind living to see is the evolution of a set of gender-neutral pronouns that are as acceptable to grammar cops as they are accepted by the majority of language users. Various attempts to "impose" pronouns by this or that advocate have come across as thought-control attempts. My money is in the various forms of "they" gaining dictionary acceptance as neutral personal pronouns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 11 Sep 2014, 12:24
Various attempts to "impose" pronouns by this or that advocate have come across as thought-control attempts.
For "this or that advocate" I read "advocates on either side", and with that proviso, I concur.

Frequently I find myself wondering why champions of tolerance should be so intolerant of another's mother tongue.  Pushes my buttons, that does.  But beyond those buttons, I really see no compelling case for prescriptivism either way:  As long as we understand one another, there's no need to correct anyone's language.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 11 Sep 2014, 12:43
Heh. You think there are issues referring to the gender of someone trans* like Claire now

There are no issues referring to the gender of someone like Claire. She's female. You use female pronouns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2014, 13:35
One speaks as one does one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2014, 14:32
Heh. You think there are issues referring to the gender of someone trans* like Claire now

There are no issues referring to the gender of someone like Claire. She's female. You use female pronouns.

The day there are no issues, we'll no longer need the forum rule requiring people to use the right pronoun for trans* people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 11 Sep 2014, 15:32
Quote
(IICIH speaking. I have sent this person a PM asking if he or she is Million Dollar Belt Sander.)
That was my first thought on reading that bucket of misogynistic dirty water.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Sep 2014, 15:52
I suspected it a couple posts ago, that post is what triggered me to report it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2014, 17:51
As long as we understand one another, there's no need to correct anyone's language.

I find the language correction is most frequently used to derail someone else's train of thought, attempting to neutralize that person without actually having to counter whatever argument they're making. I've come to believe that, in truly civilized conversation, the proper response to any statement that begins: "So, what you're really saying is ..." is a Taser shot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 Sep 2014, 20:15
Hmmm, drinks plus on-going storyline involving several main characters which might have long lasting consequences for said characters.

Nothing can go wrong here!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2014, 20:16
That's what Jeremy Clarkson said.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 11 Sep 2014, 20:16
Aw, Claire ... if you were a real person and not a cartoon, I'd have a heart-to-heart with ya about how staying late and coming in on your day off leads only to declining physical and mental health and diminished respect from your co-workers and your superiors. 
I'll defer to Marten's advice on the accidental decanting of subpar beverages onto treasured items of clothing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Sep 2014, 20:20
Now she'll be in Jeans and a blue shirt
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 11 Sep 2014, 20:46
Damnit Marten, there's one good situation where you get her out of a pretty dress and this is not...AH MOD!

Well, two. Go to that one fancy bar wil works at and get her setup with one of those victorian dresses.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Sep 2014, 20:58
Claire in ruffles and a bonnet could work well aesthetically.

Is this foreshadowing? Is the Blue Dress With White Piping going to be the first character killed on screen?

Libraries are good places to spend time even if you're not at work there, and Claire could always invoke one of my favorite xkcd strips (http://xkcd.com/238/).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 11 Sep 2014, 21:21
...dresses are nerdy now?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zelda_png.png) dress, maybe...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 11 Sep 2014, 21:24
I guess I'll just say it.  There's no way Angus is getting that job.  It'll probably go to someone with a background in either writing or standup, not professional strawmen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Sep 2014, 22:09
Ah, but they'll leave him hanging by never calling him back...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 11 Sep 2014, 23:38
...dresses are nerdy now?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zelda_png.png) dress, maybe...

Tai just called her a nerd. Doubtless it's still on her mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Sep 2014, 23:46
...dresses are nerdy now?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zelda_png.png) dress, maybe...

I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Claire in that dress... Then again, I consider nerdiness to be a big plus on the attractiveness scale.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 12 Sep 2014, 00:27
Quote from: Marten
Some of us are going to a bar tonight.
Finally, we are getting out of the library. I look forward to this. The question is, who are going?
This cannot possibly go wrong :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Sep 2014, 00:54
Oh dear GOD, if Sven is at the HR visiting Wil, and Dora walks in...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Sep 2014, 01:06
CoD surely isn't open ALL the time, Cosette may well not be there but surely she won't be working. Do we actually know what time the shop opens and closes?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Sep 2014, 01:13
The plot thickens! Come Watson! The game is afoot!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 12 Sep 2014, 04:54
Claire's reaction is making me mad at the imagined person in her head calling her a nerd for wearing a dress. I hope she has fun at the bar, seems like she's not having the best day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 12 Sep 2014, 05:04
CoD surely isn't open ALL the time, Cosette may well not be there but surely she won't be working. Do we actually know what time the shop opens and closes?
I do not think we have ever seen the opening hours. I would guess they open early (around 6 A.M.?) in the morning on weekdays, to cater for the coffee-thirsty people going to work. Then there is another rush during lunchtime, and finally when people are finished at work in the afternoon. But do they keep open in the evenings? I cannot remember seeing a night-time scene at CoD, but my guess is they would keep open until 10 P.M. or thereabouts.

During week-ends, I guess they would open around 9 A.M, and stay open until late, to cater for people going home from restaurants or cinemas.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 12 Sep 2014, 05:25
Interesting, I guess I'd see pubs as filling those needs (evening opening times) but they don't really exist in the USA. Most cafes close at 6 here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Sep 2014, 06:20
CoD surely isn't open ALL the time, Cosette may well not be there but surely she won't be working. Do we actually know what time the shop opens and closes?
I do not think we have ever seen the opening hours. I would guess they open early (around 6 A.M.?) in the morning on weekdays, to cater for the coffee-thirsty people going to work. Then there is another rush during lunchtime, and finally when people are finished at work in the afternoon. But do they keep open in the evenings? I cannot remember seeing a night-time scene at CoD, but my guess is they would keep open until 10 P.M. or thereabouts.

During week-ends, I guess they would open around 9 A.M, and stay open until late, to cater for people going home from restaurants or cinemas.

When Faye was negotiating with Padma about a Coffee/Pastry swap, she noted a 7AM opening time except on Weekends. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1924)
 
When Jim had to drop off Samantha for an unexpected...whatever, he noted that Coffee of Doom opened well into the night. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/2176)

And here is the rare instance of Coffee of Doom at night. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2180)

HAVE A NICE DAY. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mkiGMtbrPM)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 12 Sep 2014, 06:52
@cesariojpn: Impressive archive-fu. Thank you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 12 Sep 2014, 07:07
...dresses are nerdy now?

This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zelda_png.png) dress, maybe...
What?

That dress is magnificent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Sep 2014, 08:01
*looks at the Zelda dress* To the cosplay room!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Sep 2014, 08:20
*pulls out a bandoleer of sewing needles and various threads* Did someone say cosplay!?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 12 Sep 2014, 12:37
Interesting, I guess I'd see pubs as filling those needs (evening opening times) but they don't really exist in the USA.
*cough* We have plenty of pubs *cough*.  Granted, most of the good ones are in Irish neighbourhoods, but even now, I can still claim to have a good local (even though their whisky selection kinda sucks, which forces me to go to another pub).  The main downside to the town I live in now is that bartenders aren't given comp tabs, so I don't get as much free booze as I used to in SF.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Sep 2014, 13:41
What will Marten's next job be?


Rock god
    - 1 (1.5%)
Office bitch
    - 7 (10.3%)
Music critic
    - 7 (10.3%)
Music tutor
    - 15 (22.1%)
Coffee critic
    - 3 (4.4%)
Life coach
    - 4 (5.9%)
Punching bag
    - 13 (19.1%)
Barista
    - 5 (7.4%)
Fossilized phosphorus fox
    - 13 (19.1%)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Sep 2014, 13:53
I can still claim to have a good local (even though their whisky selection kinda sucks, which forces me to go to another pub).

If you have to go to another pub to get a whiskey you like, then that isn't a good local.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Sep 2014, 16:57
@cesariojpn: Impressive archive-fu. Thank you.

I don't feel good about it, I couldn't find the one where Faye threw stale muffins at homeless bums with Angus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 12 Sep 2014, 17:21
Ballistic charity? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1491)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 Sep 2014, 17:31
Although neither that comic nor the following Faye/Angus comic reveal any information about what time CoD closes. Just reveals that Faye likes to assault street musicians with baked goods and possibly has an effect on time-dilation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Sep 2014, 19:49
All the references I could find (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Coffee_of_Doom).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 12 Sep 2014, 20:18
I can still claim to have a good local (even though their whisky selection kinda sucks, which forces me to go to another pub).

If you have to go to another pub to get a whiskey you like, then that isn't a good local.
Well, I usually just drink ales or Bombay Sapphire tonics, since I rarely have the money for good whisky.  My local *does* have a decent variety of the Irish whiskeys and bourbons, but since I'm more of a fan of the Japanese or Scottish stuff, on the rare occasions that I have the dosh, I basically have the choice of Laphroaig 10 or migrating.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Sep 2014, 04:33
I can still claim to have a good local (even though their whisky selection kinda sucks, which forces me to go to another pub).

If you have to go to another pub to get a whiskey you like, then that isn't a good local.
Well, I usually just drink ales or Bombay Sapphire tonics, since I rarely have the money for good whisky.  My local *does* have a decent variety of the Irish whiskeys and bourbons, but since I'm more of a fan of the Japanese or Scottish stuff, on the rare occasions that I have the dosh, I basically have the choice of Laphroaig 10 or migrating.

You poor thing! If you should ever happen to be in Oslo, Norway, let me know, and I'll introduce you to my extensive collection of rare Scotch!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 15 Sep 2014, 09:06
I might never leave then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Sep 2014, 14:43
Can I come? I suddenly find myself pining for the fjords.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 15 Sep 2014, 14:46
My experience of Oslo is, I admit, somewhat limited, but I did not see any fjords when I was there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 15 Sep 2014, 16:39
Indeed, one would think you'd see more Strømmens Værksteds, or perhaps Trolls.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Redball on 15 Sep 2014, 19:53
Can I come? I suddenly find myself pining for the fjords.
Do Norwegians pine for the fjords too, or just the fir-riners?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 15 Sep 2014, 21:16
My experience of Oslo is, I admit, somewhat limited, but I did not see any fjords when I was there.

You did not arrive by ferry, then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 15 Sep 2014, 22:25
Oslo is, actually, at the very end of the Oslo Fjord. But this fjord isn't quite like the ones tourists think of - the beautiful fjords with steep mountains on all sides are mostly found on the west coast. The Oslo Fjord is surrounded by flat farmlands, some forests and a few towns, mostly, and doesn't come off as breathtaking as the western ones.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 16 Sep 2014, 01:48
Relevant here: I'm not totally sure what a fjord is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 16 Sep 2014, 02:09
A fjord is a narrow inlet on the coast, most commonly formed by receding glaciers after an ice age. Basicly it's a narrow valley which is partially submerged. Most fjords are in arctic regions, and they're very common in Western Scandinavia.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 16 Sep 2014, 02:46
And dead parrots rather like them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 16 Sep 2014, 06:13
A fjord is a narrow inlet on the coast, most commonly formed by receding glaciers after an ice age. Basicly it's a narrow valley which is partially submerged. Most fjords are in arctic regions, and they're very common in Western Scandinavia.

All credit to Slartibartfast; the man did good work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 16 Sep 2014, 06:22
The Oslo Fjord is probably more like a Förde then. Kiel lies at the end of the Kieler Förde, which was created by the ice age, but is not geologically considered a Fjord, same as the Oslo Fjord.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 16 Sep 2014, 06:56
A fjord is a narrow inlet on the coast, most commonly formed by receding glaciers after an ice age. Basicly it's a narrow valley which is partially submerged. Most fjords are in arctic regions, and they're very common in Western Scandinavia.

All credit to Slartibartfast; the man did good work.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 16 Sep 2014, 09:06
And dead parrots rather like them.

Apropos of nothing, but I suddenly think i would have liked to see Robin Williams and John Cleese together in a movie: "Dead Parrots Society."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 16 Sep 2014, 22:20
The Oslo Fjord is probably more like a Förde then. Kiel lies at the end of the Kieler Förde, which was created by the ice age, but is not geologically considered a Fjord, same as the Oslo Fjord.

Yeah, the Oslo Fjord is longer and (I think) deeper, but it's the same kind of geographical feature.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2786-2790 (8-12 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 16 Sep 2014, 23:07
The Oslo Fjord is probably more like a Förde then. Kiel lies at the end of the Kieler Förde, which was created by the ice age, but is not geologically considered a Fjord, same as the Oslo Fjord.

Förde is just the German form of the word fjord. A fjord is an inlet, narrow relative to the length it goes inland, as opposed to a bay, which has a softer curve. When used in English, it is often implied that it is bordered by rock cliffs. The Norwegian ones usually are, while e.g. the German ones are not.