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Title: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 20 Sep 2014, 18:49
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 20 Sep 2014, 19:15
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Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

Did I miss a memo or did they do something to the calendar down in Kiwiland?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 20 Sep 2014, 19:18
Don't you remember the old rhyme?

Thirty-six days hath September,
April, June, and November.
All the rest have forty-two,
Except February, because we're on a planet where the year has 466 days.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 20 Sep 2014, 22:31
And here I thought the cliffhanger just made the weekend longer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Sep 2014, 07:00
Tell me Doctor, where are going this time, is it the Fifties or September 36th?
All I want to do is find a guitar to sling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Sep 2014, 07:32
Tell me Doctor, where are going this time, is it the Fifties or September 36th?
All I want to do is find a guitar to sling.
So take me away, I don't mind.
Just promise me we'll be back in time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 21 Sep 2014, 08:23
Up in Wisconsin, with the winter dragging on, we'd call a day in April "February 90th."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Sep 2014, 11:09
Up in Wisconsin, with the winter dragging on, we'd call a day in April "February 90th."

HUSH on that!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Sep 2014, 12:02
Up in Wisconsin, with the winter dragging on, we'd call a day in April "February 90th."
When I went to a conference in Madison, one of the Wisconsinites (Wisconsinians?) I talked to said it had gotten down to freezing two weeks before the conference and they were worried it would still be like that when the conference happened. In June.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 21 Sep 2014, 13:03
[MumblyVoice] Sassnfrassinmassinrassin... [/MumblyVoice]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 21 Sep 2014, 18:51
F5
F5
F5
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Sep 2014, 19:01
F5
F5
F5

Cliffhanger + premade comic for out of town=guaranteed filler.

And I'm f5ing anyway even though I know that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 21 Sep 2014, 19:08
F5
F5
F5

Cliffhanger + premade comic for out of town=guaranteed filler.

And I'm f5ing anyway even though I know that.

Jeph said on Twitter last week that the reason he premade the comic was he realised he'd be getting home around 11 in the evening. Not a guaranteed filler but then again we can't be sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 21 Sep 2014, 19:18
Yay, proved wrong with adorable blushes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Sep 2014, 19:25
A suspiciously heated denial, but we know from her first appearance that Claire reacts vigorously if she feels attacked.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 21 Sep 2014, 19:29
Quack quack quack!  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 21 Sep 2014, 19:51
Quack quack quack!  :claireface:


And a baby duck would peep before it learns to quack.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Sep 2014, 20:08
daaaaaang... If Claire blushes any more her cheeks are going to out-red her hair.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 21 Sep 2014, 20:59
Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 21 Sep 2014, 21:25
The perfect quote.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 21 Sep 2014, 21:33
Methinks thou doth protest too much Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 21 Sep 2014, 23:07
Now I understand why Faye likes that the stools are secured against use as weapons.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 21 Sep 2014, 23:17
Hmm, Claire doesn't seem like she'd be much in a fight, since Faye has the experience, but then again, she did have to be persuaded to put down that sword, and may have powers that just haven't awakened yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 22 Sep 2014, 01:06
Methinks thou doth protest too much Claire.
Shakespearean grammar nazi sayeth: "thou dost".  ("I do"; "thou dost"; "he, she, or it doth".)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 22 Sep 2014, 01:40
Poor Claire. I think Faye is being a bit unkind here, but then again that's Faye.

And she's (to some extent) drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 22 Sep 2014, 02:13
Aaaaaaaand now we get the blush.

Faye really is pushing her a little too hard, but she has a point, and like Barmymoo said, that is Faye for you.

Now, what would be ironic is if Claire's following Marten around for professional reasons and actually didn't have a crush on him, but Faye got her thinking about it, and now she does. But, I doubt that's the case.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 22 Sep 2014, 02:38
Aww SO cute. I don't know, Faye is being a little pushy here, but some people will never admit stuff like that without a little prodding. Or A LOT of prodding. She's also not the worst person to ask when you want to know how to get close to Marten.

I kind of want to see Claire/Marten dates and awkwardness now!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tormuse on 22 Sep 2014, 02:43
Click here to see a baby duck following someone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV3MXD7pzkw)

It's most definitely a "peep peep peep," rather than a "quack quack quack."  :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Sep 2014, 05:02
Up in Wisconsin, with the winter dragging on, we'd call a day in April "February 90th."
In a non-leap year, April ends on February 89th :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 22 Sep 2014, 05:04
What are you people talking about? Today's date is 1993-09-7692.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Psuedoname on 22 Sep 2014, 05:06
Would Faye mention the sleeping hug as an example too
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 22 Sep 2014, 05:23
Faye's face in panel 2 is excellent. You can tell exactly what she's thinking even though she's not saying anything.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 22 Sep 2014, 05:42
I'm going to guess that Faye is going to say something to the effect that Marten says something very similar on the subject.  That would lead to Claire being awkward around Marten and Marten being confused about what's happening.  Then again, Faye may have already achieved that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 22 Sep 2014, 07:28
Click here to see a baby duck following someone. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV3MXD7pzkw)

It's most definitely a "peep peep peep," rather than a "quack quack quack."  :)

I thought that sound was rendered "tweet" in English. In my native Danish, it is "pip".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 22 Sep 2014, 08:21
I thought that sound was rendered "tweet" in English. In my native Danish, it is "pip".

We commonly use "tweet" for the sound of the kind of small birds that "tweet" even when they are adult.

The sound of a young duckling is a bit different, and I think "peep" is being used here to convey this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 22 Sep 2014, 08:48
The difference is that "peep" is generally a repeated, same-sound high note, louder or softer.
A tweet is more musical, has more notes, such as a bobolink's "bob-o-LINK"
Birds do not twitter. Thank goodness  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Sep 2014, 09:06
Birds do not twitter. Thank goodness  :-D

Not anymore, anyway... (https://twitter.com/yelling_bird)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 22 Sep 2014, 10:33
What are you people talking about? Today's date is 1993-09-7692.
Explanation for those that don't pre-date it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 22 Sep 2014, 11:22
Also it might be influenced by the Peep candy ducklings. (which are gross btw)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 22 Sep 2014, 18:39
I dunno if it's already been mentioned, but while it could as well be just a random inflection by Jeph, the distinction between:

"He invited ME tonight!"

and

"He INVITED me tonight!"

seems important.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 22 Sep 2014, 18:46
I dunno if it's already been mentioned, but while it could as well be just a random inflection by Jeph, the distinction between:

"He invited ME tonight!"

and

"He INVITED me tonight!"

seems important.

I noticed that earlier when I looked back after reading

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Faye's face in panel 2 is excellent. You can tell exactly what she's thinking even though she's not saying anything.

And I think she agrees with you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 Sep 2014, 18:46
Smallest - Well yeah, the ME is emphasized to show that she was the one who was asked to go, rather than her going out of her way to spend time with Marty.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 22 Sep 2014, 19:20
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Smallest - Well yeah, the ME is emphasized to show that she was the one who was asked to go, rather than her going out of her way to spend time with Marty.

They both do. The ME could imply a bit more self importance and maybe 'HE wants to spend time with ME!', with Faye giving a 'now why would you care so much about that' look.

It may well just be a quirk with the writing, but that's what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 22 Sep 2014, 20:25
Smallest - Well yeah, the ME is emphasized to show that she was the one who was asked to go, rather than her going out of her way to spend time with Marty.

But then there's the difference between "HE asked ME!" and "He asked ME!"
The former focuses on that Marten was the one that invited her, the second one focuses on that she was the one Marten invited.

I'm assuming it's just a typing quirk, because that seems way too obvious, as well as too aggressive (when including the expression and pointing) for Claire, but it definitely read the second way for me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 22 Sep 2014, 20:40
What are you people talking about? Today's date is 1993-09-7692.
Explanation for those that don't pre-date it:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September)
Better than stay in August for 594 years.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 22 Sep 2014, 21:12
N'yaaa. I really want to see how this goes on. Especially with her stuttered "I'm your favourite?". If she didn't have a crush on him, then Faye seems to have planted an idea in her head. But I also really want to see how the conversation between Faye and Claire continued. I don't really believe she simply stood up on her.

Also I thought broad existential statements were reserved for LSD and other substances.

Edit: No replies yet? Surprising. Anyway:

Multae sunt causae bibendi.

Bibo ergo sum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: badbum61 on 22 Sep 2014, 21:34
"...and Rene Descartes was a drunken fart,
I drink therefore I am."
</python>
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 22 Sep 2014, 21:40
Bhuel tá duine éigin ag dul a fháil ar a chroí briste an tráthnóna seo, nó ar a laghad an-ligean síos ar bhealach nach subtle amhlaidh. Agus is shamhlú agam go bhfuil duine éigin ag dul go bhfuil hangover ar maidin. Agus Tai nach bhfuil fós fuair a thiomána piggyback fóill.

(Céir liom lyrical i mo theanga dhúchais eile nuair atá sé tríocha cúig ar maidin.)
(Níl sé i ndáiríre.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 22 Sep 2014, 21:42
I actually like that idea of Descartes. You can doubt anything. But by doubting anything you already prove that you exist.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 22 Sep 2014, 21:50
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You're ALL my favorites!

Drunk or not, that line is all kinds of squee-worthy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 22 Sep 2014, 21:59
Hehe:
(http://halfur.de/pic/biboergosum.png)

Now I feel in the mood for some Philosophy. I still want to read some of Bertrand Russel's works. He's one of the people I'd consider my idol.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 22 Sep 2014, 22:20
Quote from: Piet Hein
We need to find a modus bibendi
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 22 Sep 2014, 22:45
I actually like that idea of Descartes. You can doubt anything. But by doubting anything you already prove that you exist.
There have been several critiques (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum#Criticisms) of that.  Spinoza and Berkeley (and others dealing with metaphysics) have also attempted to deal with the same issue.  Of course then you get into the matter of what "really" exists.  Like if you, and in fact this whole universe are figments of my imagination, one could easily say that you *don't* exist, since independent of me, then you're not actually "real".  And then we get into arguing over whether Descartes had any sort of independent existence even if he *was* a figment.  Given the content of the rest of the Meditations, I think it's fair to say that he did argue just that, that he existed as an independent physical, entity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 22 Sep 2014, 22:48
Now I wanna write a story where people can only exist if they've been drinking. Or perhaps drinking sends people to an alternate universe, I dunno.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 22 Sep 2014, 22:54
At what point do entities start vanishing in puffs of logic?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 22 Sep 2014, 23:02
That only happens if they disprove themselves by proving themselves.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Sep 2014, 23:16
Now I wanna write a story where people can only exist if they've been drinking. Or perhaps drinking sends people to an alternate universe, I dunno.

What if they can only exist when others have been drinking? The Tequila Monster is an example.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 22 Sep 2014, 23:25
Now I feel in the mood for some Philosophy. I still want to read some of Bertrand Russell's works. He's one of the people I'd consider my idol.
Much less plodding than some of Kant's works, that's to be sure.  I *do* wish that either A) In the next 4 months I'll be able to drive again (unlikely, given that my anxiety is waay too high), or B) the symbolic logic and maths courses I'd need to take to even have a chance at better understanding his works were at a time where I *don't* need to wake up at 0500, since that's rather close to when I go to sleep.  If you don't think like diving into Principia Mathematica any time soon, I can dig up the ISBN for one a sort of Russell's "Best of" on metaphysics from one of my book boxen.


What if they can only exist when others have been drinking? The Tequila Monster is an example.
Maybe he's only *visible* || perhaps corporeal when someone else has drinking?  And why if there's a god of wine, why isn't there a god of hangovers?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 22 Sep 2014, 23:30
Oh no, don't get me started on Kant.

I don't know how the translations are, but in the original German version most of his texts are almost incomprehensible. Well, in addition to most of his theories being almost impossible to understand if one isn't very familiar with the principles behind them.

Kant was the reason my grades went down when our philosophy class in school got to the topic of metaphysics.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 22 Sep 2014, 23:32
I have heard from multiple professors, that if possible, even if one is a native German speaker, to just read the English translation, and thank $DEITY that you did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 22 Sep 2014, 23:56
Yeah, I love his sentence structure in German. Shakespeare got nothing on Kant.

This is one sentence:
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Allein anderer Seits erhebt es [die menschliche Vernunft] wiederum und giebt ihr ein Zutrauen zu sich selbst, daß sie diese Disciplin selbst ausüben kan und muß, ohne eine andere Censur über sich zu gestatten, imgleichen, daß die Gränzen, die sie ihrem speculativen Gebrauche zu setzen genöthigt ist, zugleich die vernünftelnde Anmaßungen iedes Gegners einschränken und mithin alles, was ihr noch von ihren vorher übertriebenen Forderungen übrig bleiben möchte, gegen alle Angriffe sicher stellen könne.

It's also a bit difficult because it uses old orthography and very old fashioned wordings. I had to read it several times only to find out what it's about. Now I looked up a translation. Oh by the gods, this makes everything a whole lot easier:
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But, on the other hand, reason is reassured and gains self-confidence, on finding that it itself can and must apply this discipline, and that it is not called upon to submit to any outside censorship; and, moreover, that the limits which it is compelled to set to its speculative employment likewise limit the pseudo-rational pretensions of all its opponents, and that it can secure against all attacks whatever may remain over from its former exaggerated claims.

Bloody Kant.

Bertrand Russell on the other hand is wonderful to read, and was far ahead of his time, politically and socially. Many of his political or social statements still hold true:
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There are those who blame the Press, but in this I think they are mistaken. The Press is such as the public demands, and the public demands bad newspapers because it has been badly educated.
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All who are not lunatics are agreed about certain things. That it is better to be alive than dead, better to be adequately fed than starved, better to be free than a slave. Many people desire those things only for themselves and their friends; they are quite content that their enemies should suffer. These people can only be refuted by science: Humankind has become so much one family that we cannot ensure our own prosperity except by ensuring that of everyone else. If you wish to be happy yourself, you must resign yourself to seeing others also happy.

And I still love his comment in the Principia Mathematica after proving that 1 + 1 = 2:
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The above proposition is occasionally useful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 22 Sep 2014, 23:59


I have heard from multiple professors, that if possible, even if one is a native German speaker, to just read the English translation, and thank $DEITY that you did.

...that would have saved me SO MUCH TIME!

To expand on Marten's thought: Our ancestors drank, therefore we are.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 23 Sep 2014, 00:01
Bwahahaha, okay, now that one might actually be true.  :mrgreen:

Ah, I found the first text which I read from Russell, it was an excerpt from his "Problems of Philosophy" (http://www.ditext.com/russell/rus1.html). Great to read, easy to follow, quite thought-provoking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 23 Sep 2014, 00:37
Now I wanna write a story where people can only exist if they've been drinking. Or perhaps drinking sends people to an alternate universe, I dunno.
My buddy ran a game a little bit like that.  It was set in a city you could only enter by staying away long enough and wanting something enough to do anything to get it.  It was a surreal nightmarish place, where everyone had at least mild sleep-deprivation madness. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 23 Sep 2014, 01:43
Maybe he's only *visible* || perhaps corporeal when someone else has drinking?  And why if there's a god of wine, why isn't there a god of hangovers?

The "Oh, God" of hangovers, you mean. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld_gods#Bilious
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 23 Sep 2014, 02:28

Bertrand Russell on the other hand is wonderful to read, and was far ahead of his time, politically and socially. Many of his political or social statements still hold true:
And I still love his comment in the Principia Mathematica after proving that 1 + 1 = 2:
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The above proposition is occasionally useful.

Aye, he did have a talent there, but sadly, his (and Whitehead's) Principia was pretty much, not shot in the heart so much, but was at the very least, given a rather savage beating by Gödel's incompleteness theorem.  I'm sad, 'cos Principia is such a seminal work, but there's no way that it can't be self-referential.


...that would have saved me SO MUCH TIME!

To expand on Marten's thought: Our ancestors drank, therefore we are.

Sorry that I was too late to help with part "A", and part "B" has gotten me closer to having hellspawn of my own than I'd care to admit.

The "Oh, God" of hangovers, you mean. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld_gods#Bilious
Exactly what I was going for.  I can't resist certain things sometimes.

Now, to return to somewhere vaguely on-topic (and it may be astronomical distances here), I don't think it's possible for Claire and Hanners to be in a strip together without the Squee!!!! factor elevating to a state that it may cause the universe to implode.  As much as I like most of the characters in this comic, those two are just the most adorable sometimes^Wall the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Sep 2014, 02:42
I don't think it's possible for Claire and Hanners to be in a strip together without the Squee!!!! factor elevating to a state that it may cause the universe to implode.

Did you write that because I just changed the subtitle of the forum, or is it a coincidence?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 23 Sep 2014, 02:45
Didn't even notice.  Except for than their respective anxiety issues, they're just the two characters in the strip you most want to hug, until everything is okay.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 23 Sep 2014, 03:26
Now I wanna write a story where people can only exist if they've been drinking. Or perhaps drinking sends people to an alternate universe, I dunno.
My buddy ran a game a little bit like that.  It was set in a city you could only enter by staying away long enough and wanting something enough to do anything to get it.  It was a surreal nightmarish place, where everyone had at least mild sleep-deprivation madness.

Don't Rest Your Head, I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 23 Sep 2014, 03:52
I can think of much worse raisons d'être than drinking. Think of all the people who believe they've been put on Earth to kill people for god, or exterminate some ethnic group, or smash the landlord class. Being a piss-head is way better than that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Sep 2014, 04:25
I don't think it's possible for Claire and Hanners to be in a strip together without the Squee!!!! factor elevating to a state that it may cause the universe to implode.

Did you write that because I just changed the subtitle of the forum, or is it a coincidence?!
Whoa, you did! What was it before again?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 23 Sep 2014, 04:28
Something like "Hannelore Fanfic Headquarters (warning - constant mod patrols)".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 23 Sep 2014, 05:32
Yeah - Jeph wrote the first bit on a flying visit, I added the warning...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-36 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 23 Sep 2014, 05:43
Up in Wisconsin, with the winter dragging on, we'd call a day in April "February 90th."

So spring comes early there?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Sep 2014, 05:45
Seriously: I don't think we had a spell of more than one day in a row above 40°F this past year until mid-May.

#### Polar Vortex.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 23 Sep 2014, 06:00
Maybe he's only *visible* || perhaps corporeal when someone else has drinking?  And why if there's a god of wine, why isn't there a god of hangovers?

The "Oh, God" of hangovers, you mean. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld_gods#Bilious

There are certainly enough deities involved with brewing (http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/know-your-beer-gods-goddesses/) that a god/goddess of hangovers isn't that far a stretch. (and as an aside there seem to be a lot of Celtic and Norse gods involved...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Sep 2014, 07:21
I'm pretty sure the brewing god/dess would cover hangovers as well.. Either cursing them for it, or promising honors in their name if the pain would just go away. Probably both at the same time. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 23 Sep 2014, 07:42
I actually like that idea of Descartes. You can doubt anything. But by doubting anything you already prove that you exist.
According to the simulation hypothesis we are most likely a simulation. Does that still qualify as existence for you?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 23 Sep 2014, 09:03
I actually like that idea of Descartes. You can doubt anything. But by doubting anything you already prove that you exist.
According to the simulation hypothesis we are most likely a simulation. Does that still qualify as existence for you?
Descartes did not know about simulations. Therefore, we can assume he is outdated, even if he did exist.

If we are part of a simulation, it is reasonable to assume that the creators have cheated a bit, to reduce processing time. If nobody is looking at the Moon, it is not necessary to include it in the simulation. Likewise, astronomical objects invisible to the naked eye need not be simulated, unless someone is pointing a telescope in that direction. As our exploration of the physical world intensifies (and the world population increases), the computational resources required will increase exponentially. Sooner or later, the simulation gets too expensive, and someone decides to pull the plug :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 23 Sep 2014, 09:11
I have it on good authority that Decartes was heavily into stochastic hillclimbing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Sep 2014, 09:38
Descartes's idea of a demon feeding him false sensory input amounted to a simulation, just not a computer simulation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 23 Sep 2014, 09:46
According to the simulation hypothesis we are most likely a simulation. Does that still qualify as existence for you?
Descartes did not know about simulations. Therefore, we can assume he is outdated, even if he did exist.

If we are part of a simulation, it is reasonable to assume that the creators have cheated a bit, to reduce processing time. If nobody is looking at the Moon, it is not necessary to include it in the simulation. Likewise, astronomical objects invisible to the naked eye need not be simulated, unless someone is pointing a telescope in that direction. As our exploration of the physical world intensifies (and the world population increases), the computational resources required will increase exponentially. Sooner or later, the simulation gets too expensive, and someone decides to pull the plug :mrgreen:
You can still run the simulation at slower speeds. Inside the simulation time will be slowed down too so to any simulated being nothing has changed.

Or maybe not all people are simulated, maybe only your city is being simulated and any experience or person outside it is not rendered. That trip overseas never happened, the moment you stepped in the plane you ceased to exist just to return to exist some time latter with memories and personal objects updated. Like how Simcity can have people coming from the airport without having to simulate the entire world.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 23 Sep 2014, 10:27
I actually like that idea of Descartes. You can doubt anything. But by doubting anything you already prove that you exist.
According to the simulation hypothesis we are most likely a simulation. Does that still qualify as existence for you?
Descartes did not know about simulations. Therefore, we can assume he is outdated, even if he did exist.

If we are part of a simulation, it is reasonable to assume that the creators have cheated a bit, to reduce processing time. If nobody is looking at the Moon, it is not necessary to include it in the simulation. Likewise, astronomical objects invisible to the naked eye need not be simulated, unless someone is pointing a telescope in that direction. As our exploration of the physical world intensifies (and the world population increases), the computational resources required will increase exponentially. Sooner or later, the simulation gets too expensive, and someone decides to pull the plug :mrgreen:

The proposition that if nobody is around to hear a tree fall in the forest, there is neither sound nor tree.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 23 Sep 2014, 11:26
If you are not in the forrest when the tree falls, do you really exist?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 23 Sep 2014, 11:42
If you are never in a forest, can a tree ever fall on you?
If you are not a tree, can you ever fall?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 23 Sep 2014, 12:05
There is no spoon.






There never was any spoon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Sep 2014, 12:16
If a spoon didn't exist, it would be necessary to create it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 23 Sep 2014, 12:17
You could just create a spork or even a splayd if you needed one, though, without creating a spoon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 23 Sep 2014, 13:05
Or maybe not all people are simulated, maybe only your city is being simulated and any experience or person outside it is not rendered. That trip overseas never happened, the moment you stepped in the plane you ceased to exist just to return to exist some time latter with memories and personal objects updated. Like how Simcity can have people coming from the airport without having to simulate the entire world.
I think, therefore I am. But I cannot be sure this applies to others. The universe is a simulation just for me. All you others do not exist.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 23 Sep 2014, 14:48
I think, therefore I am. But I cannot be sure this applies to others. The universe is a simulation just for me. All you others do not exist.

Not much of a Raknarök if it's just you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 23 Sep 2014, 16:19
I think, therefore I am. But I cannot be sure this applies to others. The universe is a simulation just for me. All you others do not exist.

For some reason, today seem to be my Terry Pratchett referencing day....

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The Unseen University Professor of Anthropics had developed the Special and Inevitable Anthropic Principle, which was that the entire reason for the existence of the universe was the eventual evolution of the UU Professor of Anthropics.

I forget the rest, but it's something along the lines that everybody, at some level, thinks along the same lines as the aforementioned professor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 23 Sep 2014, 16:48
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 23 Sep 2014, 17:13
I don't think it's possible for Claire and Hanners to be in a strip together without the Squee!!!! factor elevating to a state that it may cause the universe to implode.
Did you write that because I just changed the subtitle of the forum, or is it a coincidence?!

I did see the changed subtitle, finally quit laughing long enough to see if anything was being said about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 23 Sep 2014, 18:06
Yes Claire this is when that happens.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 23 Sep 2014, 18:25
Maybe we'll see the return of the Beast of Bourbon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 23 Sep 2014, 18:32
Mistakes are about to be made. It's only a question of who is going to make them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 23 Sep 2014, 18:38
Oh my god, happy Faye is so adorable too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 23 Sep 2014, 18:38
Well either way, we all know Marten is going to be in pain, either from the hangover or someone either punching him or headbutting his nads.

Poor guy has no luck.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 23 Sep 2014, 18:39
Maybe they'll both puke on him this time.

But really, I see an evil cliffhanger coming up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 23 Sep 2014, 18:41
Tomorrow Jeph let's Willis do a guest strip and he kills them all in a drunk driving accident, freeing Jeph to work on his new strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 23 Sep 2014, 18:44
I rather think in the lines of the wedding cuddle, or Faye trying to get those two over their "professional relationship" inhibitions, either failing miserably or successfully, and we don't know which of those it'll be until next Tuesday, because Monday will be Steve's adventures with his year's free worth of cereal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Sep 2014, 18:55
Maybe they'll both puke on him this time.

This.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 23 Sep 2014, 19:12
What, we're done with the bar -already-? I was expecting a  lot more...

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 23 Sep 2014, 19:19
The crazier antics always happen at the after-party anyhow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 Sep 2014, 19:20
Done with the bar, but not the drunken drama!

Also can I say just how cute Dora and Tai look here. ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 23 Sep 2014, 19:50
Uhoh, they're about to uncork The Emergency Bourbon


This will not end well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 23 Sep 2014, 20:17
The Emergency Bourbon is what they have at CoD for emergencies. This is probably more of a Secret Bourbon (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2056).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 23 Sep 2014, 20:51
Maybe they'll both puke on him this time.
Everything that happened so far is all part of a complex plan made by pintsize to see if he can give Marten a puke fetish.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 23 Sep 2014, 21:07
Now I wanna write a story where people can only exist if they've been drinking. Or perhaps drinking sends people to an alternate universe, I dunno.
My buddy ran a game a little bit like that.  It was set in a city you could only enter by staying away long enough and wanting something enough to do anything to get it.  It was a surreal nightmarish place, where everyone had at least mild sleep-deprivation madness.

Don't Rest Your Head, I suppose.

What made it better was that we played it at 2:30 AM. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 23 Sep 2014, 21:12
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.  Judging by the lack of "drunk bubbles", both Dora and Claire are sober.  Don't know if this is significant or not. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 23 Sep 2014, 21:24
Maybe they'll both puke on him this time.
Claire is not drunk. No drunk bubbles. Claire should be wary of Faye by now, so I do not really expect her to come along.

Faye has been really adorable in this bar sequence. Reminds me of good old days. Perhaps a bit direct towards Claire, but I guess she has a plan. She is tired of all the hidden feelings, and wants to shake up things. For better or worse. I guess she is going to succeed spectacularly.

There will also be confession time, I guess. Faye will let out all her anxieties regarding her relationship with Angus. Marten will tell about his lack of success in life. Both will get spectacularly drunk.

Fortunately, Sven did not appear :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 23 Sep 2014, 21:29
Hmmmmmmmmmmm.  Judging by the lack of "drunk bubbles", both Dora and Claire are sober.  Don't know if this is significant or not.
Dora may have to open the shop, which IIRC, is around 0700, so she'd probably need to be there a half hour earlier.  More than that if she has to do some roasting in the Spider Zone.  And Claire has either been taking it easy (thus far), or truly *has* Awakened into boozing.  She looks like the sort who might have a hollow leg to put the stuff in.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 23 Sep 2014, 21:31
I noticed that, but Claire already felt safe enough around Marten to drink a little bit if you remember the wedding, so maybe she'll drink some of the secret bourbon. From what we've seen she doesn't drink normally, so she probably doesn't have much tolerance. So lap barfing might still be a possibility.

I have no idea why I wrote all this, because that lap barfing reference was just a joke.

And yes, Faye was absolutely great in her happy moments ("I like this bar!").

Hedgie: If you remember Clinton's reaction, I'd say it's pretty sure that Claire isn't the person to drink. Definitely not in a bar. Maybe she's more willing at Marten and Faye's place.

Edit: And I just realised how incredibly creepy that sounds. It sounds like I would want Claire to get drunk and do something stupid. Please note that that is not what I meant.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 23 Sep 2014, 21:36
Claire should be wary of Faye by now, so I do not really expect her to come along.

After being accused of following Marten around like a puppy it'd make sense for her not to.

But if she doesn't I'll be pretty disappointed because that would be the most anticlimactic thing ever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 23 Sep 2014, 21:54
Faye is my spirit animal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 Sep 2014, 21:55
Maybe they'll both puke on him this time.
Everything that happened so far is all part of a complex plan made by pintsize to see if he can give Marten a puke fetish.

What's disturbing about that idea is how much sense it makes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 23 Sep 2014, 22:04
So...are the comics not showing up for anyone else? Specifically any comic before today's? I just get blank blue pages or constant loading tabs. >.>

Edit: nevermind, apparently they're just loading really, really slowly for some reason. Strange.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 23 Sep 2014, 22:05
Cake batter (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2672) seems more likely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 23 Sep 2014, 22:51
Hedgie: If you remember Clinton's reaction, I'd say it's pretty sure that Claire isn't the person to drink. Definitely not in a bar. Maybe she's more willing at Marten and Faye's place.

Edit: And I just realised how incredibly creepy that sounds. It sounds like I would want Claire to get drunk and do something stupid. Please note that that is not what I meant.
Well, maybe *that* bar.  If the kind of place where stools had to be fastened down, I'd have to have someone like Faye for backup, myself, and would certainly moderate more.  Or maybe her tolerance magically has increased, hence the hypothetical "hollow leg".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 23 Sep 2014, 23:44
Edit: And I just realised how incredibly creepy that sounds. It sounds like I would want Claire to get drunk and do something stupid. Please note that that is not what I meant.
You'd be happy to see Claire do something sensibly stupid. Like maybe getting a tattoo (still small and tasteful, knowing her), or her ears pierced a second time (we are talking about a woman who doesn't push her inhibitions too far, for obvious reasons (at least to Clinton, Marten and Emily). A second set of studs or rings in her ears would probably be some crazy shit).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 24 Sep 2014, 01:29
Claire is not drunk. No drunk bubbles. Claire should be wary of Faye by now, so I do not really expect her to come along.
I don't feel I know Claire well enough to guess whether or not she'll take that risk. It will be interesting to find out.

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There will also be confession time, I guess. Faye will let out all her anxieties regarding her relationship with Angus. Marten will tell about his lack of success in life. Both will get spectacularly drunk.
...and Claire might get discussed in her absence. Though if Marten is remotely interested,  he's hiding his cards well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 24 Sep 2014, 02:46
Or she will be discussed while everyone forgets she is standing right there to the left of the camera.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 24 Sep 2014, 04:09
Or she will be discussed while everyone forgets she is standing right there to the left of the camera.

Those are the best discussions to listen in on.

Just one thing though - where's Hannelore?  She was at the bar earlier, but not now, seemingly.  Is she off camera, did she decide to go home early, is she still inside, or (cue ominous music) did she leave with someone else?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Sep 2014, 04:17
It would make sense for Hannelore to walk home with Marten and Faye since they live in the same building. But that could have made any Marten-Faye-Claire interactions awkward, from a dramatic standpoint. So maybe Jeph made Hannelore go home early because she had to organize her cleaning supplies, or clean her organizing supplies, or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 24 Sep 2014, 04:35
One of them other than reveals to the other(s) about their "secret", and in retaliation, the other(s) do likewise.

Example: Marten blurts out that Sven still has the hots for Faye. Faye retorts by saying that Claire has the hots for Marten. And in a bit of drunken stupidity, Marten "outs" Claire.

Goddamn it, I better not be right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 24 Sep 2014, 05:24
You won't be. I just don't believe Jeph would do that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Sep 2014, 06:16
Jeph has LONG said Claire's status wouldn't be used in that kind of manner.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ChrisSayer on 24 Sep 2014, 06:23
Jeph has LONG said Claire's status wouldn't be used in that kind of manner.

Yep.  But that doesn't mean he won't address Claire's challenges, given her unique context. 

Knowing how artfully, and carefully, he's presented Claire so far, I trust that he won't be afraid to tell her story, wherever that leads her.

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing things develop.  Jeph's got the chops, the smarts, and nowadays, the budget to do this right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Sep 2014, 06:45
No, Claire outs herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 24 Sep 2014, 06:48
Whatever bad things are still to come, they dodged quite a bullet there now that they've left the bar and ended the possibility of an awkward encounter with Sven, who iirc is a regular at THR.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Sep 2014, 07:08
I don't think they were at THR. The decor doesn't match, and they don't apparently have a dart board.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 24 Sep 2014, 08:15
Just one thing though - where's Hannelore?  She was at the bar earlier, but not now, seemingly.  Is she off camera, did she decide to go home early, is she still inside, or (cue ominous music) did she leave with someone else?
Hopefully, she did not leave with the Blood Fukk (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2794) man. Although he is probably quite harmless. Steve is another possibility. But I agree, it would be natural for her to wait for Faye and Marten to walk home. She may be waiting just off camera, perhaps talking to Sven who happened to walk by?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 24 Sep 2014, 10:11
Hanners can't leave until the bar is spotless.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 24 Sep 2014, 12:47
Did Dora have an accident with the chin sharpener?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 24 Sep 2014, 12:53
Of course, Hanners has means of transportation (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2296) not available to the others, so I guess she can suddenly be gone. Her friends are used to it, so they make no fuss about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 24 Sep 2014, 14:06
Oh god that 4th panel, the last two bubbles are EXACTLY what happened at my birthday party last week, I'm still trying to repair the social damage (and damage to my house, garage is a mess). I really should stop drinking spirits, they go down waaayyyyy too easy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 24 Sep 2014, 16:01
Maybe they'll both puke on him this time.
Claire is not drunk. No drunk bubbles. Claire should be wary of Faye by now, so I do not really expect her to come along.

I was just noticing that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 24 Sep 2014, 17:26
Jeph has LONG said Claire's status wouldn't be used in that kind of manner.

Yep.  But that doesn't mean he won't address Claire's challenges, given her unique context. 

Knowing how artfully, and carefully, he's presented Claire so far, I trust that he won't be afraid to tell her story, wherever that leads her.

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing things develop.  Jeph's got the chops, the smarts, and nowadays, the budget to do this right.

Notice I didn't SAY that. cesario presented a situation wherein Claire would be used more or less as a punch line, reduced to a stereotype. Jeph has not done this so far, and will, with any luck not do so now, and I would venture to say for Herr Trollmaster, would not do so intentionally in any context in the first place. This doesn't mean her story won't be told, especially as she seems like the intern most likely to join the main cast just on screen time alone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 24 Sep 2014, 17:31
I already considered Emily and Claire at least semi-main cast since the just after the house party and the wedding arcs respectively. Although that could just be wishful thinking on my part.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 24 Sep 2014, 18:09
So...are the comics not showing up for anyone else? Specifically any comic before today's? I just get blank blue pages or constant loading tabs. >.>

Edit: nevermind, apparently they're just loading really, really slowly for some reason. Strange.

I was seeing the same thing. optimize.indieclicks.com was having a problem, and your browser didn't want to display the page until it had timed out. (No relation to indietits.) Seems better now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Sep 2014, 18:11
So Claire's still not drinking? Interesting. But aww at hair scratchies :wow:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 24 Sep 2014, 18:15
cutecutecutecutecutecutecutecutecute! cute!



cute
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 24 Sep 2014, 18:18
Faye's reading more into this than she should. 


That's one mistake. 



More are about to be made, methinks! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 24 Sep 2014, 18:18
I called already, but I'll do it again: Tomorrow is definitely going to be a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 Sep 2014, 18:20
I can't even figure out Claire's expression there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 24 Sep 2014, 18:22
She's melting  :-D

Oh, and I'm pretty sure that at least now she might crush for Marten.  :roll:

But headscratches doesn't mean anything. There's a woman at our hackerspace who headscratches anyone. It's nice. Everybody should get their head scratched every once in a while.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 24 Sep 2014, 18:31
(http://i.imgur.com/r1r0nJV.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 24 Sep 2014, 18:33
and I would venture to say for Herr Trollmaster,

Just because I suggest a possible plot point doesn't give you the right to call me names.

I can't even figure out Claire's expression there.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nyoron
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 24 Sep 2014, 18:36
Ahhh her face in panel 4, so cute!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 24 Sep 2014, 18:36
(http://cdn.cutestpaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/cat-smile-l.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 24 Sep 2014, 18:37
(http://i61.tinypic.com/jrr4lt.png)

Edit: Hey, my avatars doing it too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 24 Sep 2014, 18:41
it's happening
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 24 Sep 2014, 18:42
I think we should all brace for impact. Especially considering that tomorrow's comic is 2800.
Just from experience, Jeph does like have the major stories around the X00th comics, if not starting there at least the crux of the story happens at that point; such as the Talk at 500, the Break-Up at 1800, Padma leaving at 2100, the beginning of May's redemption at 2500 (and in turn, the beginning of Dale & Marigold growing up and talking like relatively normal people).
There are quite a few character storylines beginning on the X00th comics and I suspect this will be no different.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tassaron on 24 Sep 2014, 18:50
Holy cow. I know at least three dozen people who've been anticipating this moment ever since Claire came out. I can't say I don't understand why. I'm honestly not sure what to expect, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Sep 2014, 18:51
Sorry, TED, but the breakup was 1799.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 24 Sep 2014, 18:57
Sorry, TED, but the breakup was 1799.

"have the major stories around the X00th comics, if not starting there at least the crux of the story happens at that point"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Sep 2014, 19:04
Faye figures Marten is making a move on Claire. Claire may be thinking the same thing. I do know that head-scratching is something that definitely works on my wife, so it's not too farfetched an assumption. Marten probably isn't intending for this to be a move, so lots of potential for misunderstanding here.

Claire's expression reminds me of another Claire blush (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2301).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 24 Sep 2014, 19:07
Just watch.  Pintsize is about to appear and send things in a horrifying direction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Sep 2014, 19:13
And Faye is thinking 'Whelp, my job here is done. Time to retreat to my bedroom and listen at the door'.

also... SQUEEEE!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 24 Sep 2014, 19:14
Marten probably isn't intending for this to be a move, so lots of potential for misunderstanding here.
I don't think he intends it as a MOVE as in "get Claire to make out with me right now"--if he were making that kind of a move, he'd probably be doing something waaaay clumsier right now!

But for a guy who isn't really that much of a touchy-feely, flirty sort in general, the scritching does seem like a pretty likely sign of attraction.  There are guys who'd do that to random female friends without being into them that way, but would Marten?

The fact that one of them is sober and one of them is waaay drunk may lead to some awkwardness.  Absolute worst case scenario is that something is said or done that Marty can't remember in the morning, but I don't think Jeph would be that cruel...  But plenty of room for lower-level confusion and misunderstanding there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Sep 2014, 19:22
Well just plain old Faye getting ideas stuck in Claire's head and Marten being loosened up and relaxed by a bit of drink, enough to do something silly like scritch a friend's head can lead to plenty of confusion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 24 Sep 2014, 19:24
Heh. True.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Sep 2014, 19:26
Claire's expression in the last panel is indicative of a high degree of confusion arising from experiencing multiple emotions simultaneously. These emotions include but are not limited to:
Which emotion comes out on top? Stay tuned!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 24 Sep 2014, 19:32
And keep staying tuned while Steve eats more cereal!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 24 Sep 2014, 19:44
and I would venture to say for Herr Trollmaster,

Just because I suggest a possible plot point doesn't give you the right to call me names.
Wait, I thought "Herr Trollmaster" was Jeph...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 24 Sep 2014, 19:45
But Jeph is already our lord and master Jephzibah!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Angelus_Primus on 24 Sep 2014, 19:46
The surprised face she makes after he starts scratching her is my new favorite adorable face anywhere.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 24 Sep 2014, 19:47
Claire's expression reminds me of another Claire blush (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2301).

Same hands-folded-carefully-in-lap posture, too, which is uh. realistically uncomfortable body language in this sort of situation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Sep 2014, 19:50
And keep staying tuned while Steve eats more cereal!
He's gotta have his bowl. It is Friday's comic we're speculating about, after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 24 Sep 2014, 19:52
This isn't enough of a cliffhanger. I say: Tomorrow will be a cliffhanger, and then we get Steve's Cereal Adventures on Monday.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 24 Sep 2014, 19:55
The surprised face she makes after he starts scratching her is my new favorite adorable face anywhere.

I urge you to reconsider, example: Panel 4. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Roxtar on 24 Sep 2014, 20:07
I kind of see this ending badly....

Marty is likely in "touchy-feely-drunk-mode", but now that Faye has planted the seed of "you have a crush on him" in Claire's head, she's going to interpret everything through that lens. hopes will be gotten up... then dashed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Sep 2014, 20:17
Faye has a bad habit of bailing on precarious situations.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 24 Sep 2014, 20:21
Just posting in to see if the forum is going to explode... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 24 Sep 2014, 20:22
I kind of see this ending badly....

Marty is likely in "touchy-feely-drunk-mode", but now that Faye has planted the seed of "you have a crush on him" in Claire's head, she's going to interpret everything through that lens. hopes will be gotten up... then dashed.
What if it works this time?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 24 Sep 2014, 20:30
I kind of see this ending badly....

Marty is likely in "touchy-feely-drunk-mode", but now that Faye has planted the seed of "you have a crush on him" in Claire's head, she's going to interpret everything through that lens. hopes will be gotten up... then dashed.
What if it works this time?

Positive Trans relationships in a webcomic? Unpossible!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Sep 2014, 20:40
A good rule-of-thumb is if you're going to post about trans issues, read the sentence aloud to yourself before you post it and replace "trans" with another minority group. If it doesn't sound like it's ok to post with the change, then it wasn't ok in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 24 Sep 2014, 20:47
Get a mop, Marten. Making Claire melt like that means you get to clean up the puddle of librarian on the floor after.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Sep 2014, 21:14
Remember what happened when Emily tried that?

At least Emily asked first.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 24 Sep 2014, 21:20
Claire's Disney Princess hair doesn't only entice woodland creatures but also drunk friends!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 24 Sep 2014, 21:35
Get a mop, Marten. Making Claire melt like that means you get to clean up the puddle of librarian on the floor after.

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/bc05cbc78257abcc7c1813dedaf2cd0a/tumblr_my4y45UWNr1skg4d9o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 24 Sep 2014, 21:36
and I would venture to say for Herr Trollmaster,

Just because I suggest a possible plot point doesn't give you the right to call me names.
Wait, I thought "Herr Trollmaster" was Jeph...

Yeah, pretty sure he was referring to Jeph there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 24 Sep 2014, 21:59
Aww that's so cute! Claire-blushes are cute. I SO hope that the hopes are not getting dashed but there are some kisses - or one? (Then talk. No wait that ended badly)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 24 Sep 2014, 22:01
I can't even figure out Claire's expression there.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nyoron

 (http://i.imgur.com/NUAFbky.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 24 Sep 2014, 22:05
and I would venture to say for Herr Trollmaster,
Just because I suggest a possible plot point doesn't give you the right to call me names.
Dude, he was referring to Jeph. Jeph is the Trollmaster. He trolls all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 24 Sep 2014, 22:17
A good rule-of-thumb is if you're going to post about trans issues, read the sentence aloud to yourself before you post it and replace "trans" with another minority group. If it doesn't sound like it's ok to post with the change, then it wasn't ok in the first place.

My transgendered friend is now hurt by your response seeing she originated it. I would like to thank you kindly for that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Auramis on 24 Sep 2014, 22:19
REALLY hoping this ends well... knowing Marten and his record with awkward situations with ladies, there's likely gonna be some drama pop up, but I really do hope it doesn't get on a sour note. This is so adorable and sweet it's giving me cavities, and I love it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 24 Sep 2014, 22:30
Sour notes come anyway, for they are the bearers of plot advancement. But in this moment, before the advance of any possible sour aftermath, there is sweetness.

But yeah. Marten landing in and staying in a stable, healthy relationship is a sure sign of End Times for Northampton. There's just something about being a main character. It's like you're a fulcrum upon which the fate of the universe balances. The fictional universe, anyway.

EDIT: It just came to me. The hitch in all of this is overprotective Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 24 Sep 2014, 22:41
Emily might be a bit of a hitch, too...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 24 Sep 2014, 22:43
There's room for more than one hitch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 24 Sep 2014, 22:43
Faye has a bad habit of bailing on precarious situations.
Faye is not bailing out. She just considers her job done, and makes a strategic retreat to give them some privacy.

Faye is obviously in deep matchmaking mode. She already knows about Emily's interest in Marten (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2769), but probably considers her too weird for him, and instead prefers Claire to hook up with him. What Marten is feeling, is another matter. Marten probably cannot decide, as usual, resulting in him getting neither of them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 24 Sep 2014, 22:45
There's room for more than one hitch.

Marten's got 99 problems, but a hitch ain't one?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 24 Sep 2014, 22:55
Um... am I the only one who finds this a little creepy?  I mean, Claire seems to welcome it after the fact, but... Marten just starts scratching her head?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 24 Sep 2014, 23:02
Not really, no. They are friendly friends (with at least mild crushes on each other, whether they address them or not) with enough context to their relationship where it's a little unexpected, but creepy isn't a word I'd use. Cuddling tends to redefine some things for most people, and they're both at least mildly drunk besides.

I know even as touch-averse and stiff and formal as I can be, I have a couple friends where that sort of thing is within bounds. Observation of other humans would seem to indicate that this is a general trend within the populace, though full studies have not been feasible so far.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 24 Sep 2014, 23:02
Um... am I the only one who finds this a little creepy?  I mean, Claire seems to welcome it after the fact, but... Marten just starts scratching her head?

It's adorable, shut up. We're all in squee mode.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 24 Sep 2014, 23:03
Also

it's happening
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 24 Sep 2014, 23:19
THIS IS TOO ADORABLE I CAN'T HANDLE IT MAKE IT STOP
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 24 Sep 2014, 23:27
Squee-ing relieves internal pressures brought on by cuteness, much like steam valves letting pressure out of a boiler. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 24 Sep 2014, 23:40
EDIT: It just came to me. The hitch in all of this is overprotective Clinton.

Next comic is a Rocket Punch shattering the window and hitting Marten.

Monday's comic is a doctor telling a crying Faye and Claire that he didn't make it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 25 Sep 2014, 00:01
Tuesday comic is Clinton's body being attacked by raccoons in a backalley, then, where he is found by Dale.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 25 Sep 2014, 00:23
I think we should all brace for impact. Especially considering that tomorrow's comic is 2800.
Just from experience, Jeph does like have the major stories around the X00th comics, if not starting there at least the crux of the story happens at that point; such as the Talk at 500, the Break-Up at 1800, Padma leaving at 2100, the beginning of May's redemption at 2500 (and in turn, the beginning of Dale & Marigold growing up and talking like relatively normal people).
There are quite a few character storylines beginning on the X00th comics and I suspect this will be no different.

Don't forget the really big 000, which coincided with Momo becoming human-sized.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 00:43
Claire's Disney Princess hair doesn't only entice woodland creatures but also drunk friends!
Or, if Emily is any indication, rather weird friends as well.

Edit:  Prediction:  Marten has to yell for Faye to extricate his hands, she thinks it's something to do with him and Claire being "unprofessional", he passes out on the sofa, and Claire, realising that she is stuck as well polishes off the bourbon and coming face to face with one of the drunken hallucinations, and spends the rest of the night talking to the Beast of Bourbon until she too passes-out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 25 Sep 2014, 01:15
But Jeph is already our lord and master Jephzibah!  :psyduck:
So glad Jephzibah (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28754.msg1138388.html#msg1138388) continues to exist.


Any chance Jephzibah will pull a Willis on us and just show Steve eating cereal again?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 25 Sep 2014, 01:26
Um... am I the only one who finds this a little creepy?  I mean, Claire seems to welcome it after the fact, but... Marten just starts scratching her head?

Social grooming (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_grooming) behavior.  Pretty common in primates, some other animals too.
When I was a kid, I used to do it to my brothers... mostly because I was curious about the tops of their heads, 'cause I couldn't examine my own.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 25 Sep 2014, 01:37
Any chance Jephzibah will pull a Willis on us and just show Steve eating cereal again?
Most likely not, we're still in the middle of the night. My guess is that whatever happens in tomorrow's comic will still be Clairten centered. Or Yelling bird.

Anyway,  :claireface: blushing in the last panel made me SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Warning - while you were squeeing a new squee has been yelled. You may wish to resquee your squee.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MamiyaOtaru on 25 Sep 2014, 01:42
A good rule-of-thumb is if you're going to post about trans issues, read the sentence aloud to yourself before you post it and replace "trans" with another minority group. If it doesn't sound like it's ok to post with the change, then it wasn't ok in the first place.
I really don't get this response in this context.  He wasn't saying "ew a trans relationship", it read to me like pleased surprise.  It'd be like someone on a Star Trek board in the 60's saying something like "Kirk and Uhura?  An interracial kiss portrayed positively?  unpossible!"  Reads to me like someone who was pleasantly surprised Trek was being so progressive.  If expressing that emotion is taboo I just dkwtf.

Anyway I'm definitely low man on the totem pole.  I'll see myself out
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CompSarge on 25 Sep 2014, 01:43
Yup...Panel 3 Claire is officially the cutest Claire yet. Probably because she let her hair down (which we haven't seen much, if at all).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 25 Sep 2014, 02:21
Any chance Jephzibah will pull a Willis on us and just show Steve eating cereal again?
Most likely not, we're still in the middle of the night. My guess is that whatever happens in tomorrow's comic will still be Clairten centered. Or Yelling bird.
Well, Hanners is yet to be accounted for.  I rather doubt she's hiding just outside of the panel ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 25 Sep 2014, 02:24
Claire - you have to be the responsible adult now. That's difficult when the guy you find unbearably yummy is massaging your scalp so you're melting.
But.. he's not thinking clearly. OK, you aren't either.
Falling asleep in each other's arms is appropriate at this point though.

That's what we did in a similar situation at New Years Eve 1979. By February 1980, just two months later, we were engaged, and married a year later.

It's been an interesting 33 years.  :laugh:

And talking about matters Trans and Matrimonial - a very good friend of mine got married to the girl of his dreams on Tuesday. He transitioned 8 years ago, but I first met him in 1999. I think the most honourable man I know. I ignored doctors orders (and am now paying the price) but I journeyed through three states to be there at the ceremony. I cried buckets - but so did all the other women my age. Happy tears.

Ten years ago, this was an impossibility, something that could never happen. But dreams sometimes do come true. Even the most unlikely ones, where you have to travel halfway round the planet from the place of your birth to find your compliment. As did he. As did I.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 25 Sep 2014, 02:38
So ... Faye was right !
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: VeraLapsa on 25 Sep 2014, 02:51
As myself being a trans woman I've always wanted Claire to get coupled with Marten. So I'm in total Sqeeee mode right now. I really hope Jeph makes this turn out well in the end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 25 Sep 2014, 02:55
I'm seriously considering not opening tomorrow's comic, because I'm so sure of it being a cliffhanger, and I'm not sure if I can wait until Monday for the resolve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 25 Sep 2014, 02:59
Marten does not want Faye to leave. That must mean that he does not want this to develop into something needing privacy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Border Reiver on 25 Sep 2014, 03:00

I'm seriously considering not opening tomorrow's comic, because I'm so sure of it being a cliffhanger, and I'm not sure if I can wait until Monday for the resolve.

So, rather than start the anticipation on Friday you'd rather start it today?  Whatever floats your boat.

If something dramatic does happen will the boards meltdown as they have in the past?


Questions, comments, queries , problems, bitches, rude gestures and/or remarks
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Angelus_Primus on 25 Sep 2014, 03:04
Um... am I the only one who finds this a little creepy?  I mean, Claire seems to welcome it after the fact, but... Marten just starts scratching her head?

 Social situations inside a group of friends will often defy social norms.

 Because every group of friends is in its basis a mini society, that defines its own norms.

 Among the very small group of my closest friends close physical contact is a very normal and non-remarkable. Which is unusual because most of us actually don't much care for being touched in normal situations.

 It can get downright creepy for a casual observer. Just in a past month I got my ass pinched by every girl in the group after a comment that my ass is very pinchable, and I reached and grabbed an skittle candy from a friend's, ahem, décolleté. Both situations which would be in society at large a cause for sexual harassment suit, yet perfectly acceptable in the group.
 
 Every person in the group sets their own limits closer if they wish to, but in general friend groups will allow far more physical intimacy then general society. And that is good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 25 Sep 2014, 03:29
Marten does not want Faye to leave. That must mean that he does not want this to develop into something needing privacy.
I don't think Marten 'want' or 'not want' Faye to leave, he looks more surprised than anything else IMHO.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 25 Sep 2014, 03:29
(Transphobic post removed by mod)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Veloso on 25 Sep 2014, 03:44
Marten does not want Faye to leave. That must mean that he does not want this to develop into something needing privacy.
This is a key observation. I'm in squeee mode with much of the board, but Claire is picking up signals that Marten isn't meaning to send.  The immediate drama starts when one or both of them realize this.  My money is on Claire being the only one to figure it out, but your guess is as good as mine.

Claire realizing this is something that she wants is an interesting development.  But this is Marten; when have we seen him realize he wants anything other than a new guitar?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 25 Sep 2014, 04:06
Marten does not want Faye to leave. That must mean that he does not want this to develop into something needing privacy.

I don't think it's even a question of wanting or not wanting. He's oblivious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 04:13
My apologies, cesario, I guess I was being overly cautious and didn't realize your post was completely positive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Sep 2014, 04:19
Claire realizing this is something that she wants is an interesting development.  But this is Marten; when have we seen him realize he wants anything other than a new guitar?
Padma comes to mind: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2094

Or Abby, although that seemed more of a passive "hey, why the hell not" thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 25 Sep 2014, 04:21
Holy cow. I know at least three dozen people who've been anticipating this moment ever since Claire came out.
The construction of the ship boat SS Martin and Claire has been progressing quite nicely.

Aww yiss we called it

if he were making that kind of a move, he'd probably be doing something waaaay clumsier right now!

But for a guy who isn't really that much of a touchy-feely, flirty sort in general, the scritching does seem like a pretty likely sign of attraction.  There are guys who'd do that to random female friends without being into them that way, but would Marten?

Though it is my favorite vessel in the citadel, I would have to agree here, then again maybe he is just drunk which makes making moves faaarrr less awkward (with me anyway)

Um... am I the only one who finds this a little creepy?  I mean, Claire seems to welcome it after the fact, but... Marten just starts scratching her head?
Eh, depends on the friendship, I have a couple friend where a headrub just happens sometimes and to me. What seems strange or awkward to others might be normal for different people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Sep 2014, 04:32
Wait, who's this Martin guy that people are shipping with Claire?

(It's Marten...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 25 Sep 2014, 04:43
Marten's evil robot twin, developed by Hanner's dad, because he was bored.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tai Fanboi on 25 Sep 2014, 04:46
Everyone's expecting a drama bomb, and this big cliffhanger.  And I'm just sitting here thinking this will happen

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2360
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 04:53
Emily might be a bit of a hitch, too...

My prediction: IF this progresses to Marten and Claire actually becoming a couple (yes, big "if" there), then Emily's reaction will be "That is so cool!"

After which, Emily will go to a private place and break down in tears.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 04:58
Whoa, I didn't notice, but Claire's hair is really different than it was in the linked comic. I like the old style better, but oh well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Throg on 25 Sep 2014, 05:03
From favorite post outta 4chan, re this comic:

It's happening and you guys are arguing about where dicks come from?
Get your head in the game!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 Sep 2014, 05:20
Tuesday comic is Clinton's body being attacked by raccoons in a backalley, then, where he is found by Dale.
Wednesday's comic has Hanners calling her father to initiate Project: Rebirth
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Sep 2014, 05:35
Actually, I think we're all missing the obvious answer to tomorrow's comic. All of this is going to go to Claire's head, she'll have a panic attack, throw up on Marten, then pass out and headbutt him in the junk. As always happens to him....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 25 Sep 2014, 05:40
Ahh, Marten.

King of Mixed Signals.  Either creating them or imagining them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 25 Sep 2014, 05:49
Whoa, I didn't notice, but Claire's hair is really different than it was in the linked comic. I like the old style better, but oh well.
The hair changed around 2704, 2705, this did not go unnoticed (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29888.msg1242392.html#msg1242392), and I agree the old is better, more colour variation and texture.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Sep 2014, 06:11
Emily might be a bit of a hitch, too...

My prediction: IF this progresses to Marten and Claire actually becoming a couple (yes, big "if" there), then Emily's reaction will be "That is so cool!"

After which, Emily will go to a private place and break down in tears.

I've been on the couple side of that equation. Never felt like a bigger tosser.

Regardless though

(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/cant+stop+the+happening+train+_47a934_5290900.gif)


and holy fuck Claire is so cute in this comic I literally had to lay down for a bit while my heart regulated itself.

GM hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnged IRL.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 25 Sep 2014, 07:32
Marten does not want Faye to leave. That must mean that he does not want this to develop into something needing privacy.

Can't say I'm sure where you got that idea? The only thing I read from his expression was "huh? you're going to bed already? but you don't need to work until five PM"

I think he's just surprised that Faye is drinking nearly as much as she could (Presumably, we don't know how long they've been at the apartment) given her late shift, and is turning in early.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 25 Sep 2014, 07:34
I didn't see it so much as that Marten wanted Faye not to leave, but merely that he didn't actively want her to leave, which he would have done if he was hoping to make a move. I don't think he's the sort of person who would consciously "make a move" on someone anyway, but the fact that it doesn't seem to have crossed his mind at all says quite a lot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Sep 2014, 07:43
Calling it now: 10 pages before Monday and/or thread is locked.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Sep 2014, 07:47
Uh oh:

Quote from: 'Jacques O'Lantern @jephjacques (Twitter)'
[looks at QC] [picks up a big old ratchet] [RACHET RATCHET RATCHET RATCHET]

muahahahahah

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 25 Sep 2014, 07:49
Calling it now: 10 pages before Monday and/or thread is locked.  :claireface:

Ten pages is nothing; it was 35-odd pages in the week of the breakup. I consider under five meagre; over ten busy; in between "just right".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Sep 2014, 07:57
Calling it now: at least five bans before Monday. Even if Jephzibah does a Steve eating cereal strip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 25 Sep 2014, 08:02
Of course, Jeph could be totally evil and make Friday's strip an "apology" saying that he's decided he likes his Patreon comic more and has decided to ditch QC in favour of doing that full time, but "who knows? They're set in the same universe so you might see some familiar faces around…"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Sep 2014, 08:04
Of course, Jeph could be totally evil and make Friday's strip an "apology" saying that he's decided he likes his Patreon comic more and has decided to ditch QC in favour of doing that full time, but "who knows? They're set in the same universe so you might see some familiar faces around…"

This would result in pitchforks and torches being purchased at various locations in the Pioneer Valley, and a sudden mass raid on a little house "owned by a noted webcomics artist and part-time musician."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Sep 2014, 08:08
Now now.. Be fair. We wouldn't burn down Jeph's house if he did that.


... We'd just lock him up in the house and force him to draw more comics for us, Misery-style.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 08:11
I interpreted the ratchet in a "Well, let's fix up the site. Server upgrade time." Then again, my mind interprets the "RATCHET" as "I'm tightening a bolt" rather than the "CLANG" of busting stuff up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 25 Sep 2014, 08:12
Actually, I think we're all missing the obvious answer to tomorrow's comic. All of this is going to go to Claire's head, she'll have a panic attack, throw up on Marten, then pass out and headbutt him in the junk. As always happens to him....
This is the Trollmaster behind the scenes we are dealing with here.

I agree that you may not be far off but I think some points are off the mark

Warning - while you were compiling your list Jeph has someone tell him all about what was posted and decided to change scenes to Hanners cleaning. preparing for an assault on the spider cave.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheCallMeFez on 25 Sep 2014, 08:27
I've really liked this whole arc. Like, getting back to the "drama and drinking" roots of QC while mixing in a lot of the newer stuff that has developed.
Also, Jeph teased with Claire at the wedding, teased with Emily with the cheek peck and made fun of shippers when all the interns are introduced(http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2217)

I guess the only teasing we get with Gabby is what happened to Gabby? Also what her last name is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 25 Sep 2014, 08:35
Whoa, I didn't notice, but Claire's hair is really different than it was in the linked comic. I like the old style better, but oh well.
The hair changed around 2704, 2705, this did not go unnoticed (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29888.msg1242392.html#msg1242392), and I agree the old is better, more colour variation and texture.
He's changed it before. (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,29035.msg1164741.html#msg1164741)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 25 Sep 2014, 08:38
By the bys: Neko_Ali and Angelus_Primus have the same avatar.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 08:40
Those all have the same color/shading though.

Also, if he actually did stop QC for his Patreon comic...would anyone actually remain a patron?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Sep 2014, 09:02
By the bys: Neko_Ali and Angelus_Primus have the same avatar.

I'm guessing Angelus copied mine. I made mine from the comic. I suppose they could have done the same thing, but it looks exactly like mine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 25 Sep 2014, 09:37
It seems like the hair texture stuff went missing in this strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2626). I don't mind it being gone in general, but i did think it looked pretty great on Claire's hair.

Edit: Ahh, never mind, it comes back in the next story event, just a little break. >_>
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 25 Sep 2014, 09:39
Oh, and lest ye forget, comic 1000 featured gratuitous nudity!

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1000 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1000)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 09:46
Gratudity!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 10:12
Claire's Disney Princess hair doesn't only entice woodland creatures but also drunk friends!
Or, if Emily is any indication, rather weird friends as well.

Edit:  Prediction:  Marten has to yell for Faye to extricate his hands, she thinks it's something to do with him and Claire being "unprofessional", he passes out on the sofa, and Claire, realising that she is stuck as well polishes off the bourbon and coming face to face with one of the drunken hallucinations, and spends the rest of the night talking to the Beast of Bourbon until she too passes-out.

And them they puked!
Yelling Bird -Pintsize-
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 Sep 2014, 10:26
Prediction for tomorrow - Yelling Bird Comic.
And then the forum burns while someone plays the lute. Probably Linds, because Linds is the first person that came to mind...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 25 Sep 2014, 10:42
Edit: It seems I have missed that there was a page break  :psyduck:

Quote for context:
It seems like the hair texture stuff went missing in this strip (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2626). I don't mind it being gone in general, but i did think it looked pretty great on Claire's hair.

Edit: Ahh, never mind, it comes back in the next story event, just a little break. >_>

That was the difference between Jeph using his small tablet and his big Cintiq at home. With the small tablet he doesn't have the hair textures, and also the titles are different.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 25 Sep 2014, 10:51
Sour notes come anyway, for they are the bearers of plot advancement. But in this moment, before the advance of any possible sour aftermath, there is sweetness.

But yeah. Marten landing in and staying in a stable, healthy relationship is a sure sign of End Times for Northampton. There's just something about being a main character. It's like you're a fulcrum upon which the fate of the universe balances. The fictional universe, anyway.

EDIT: It just came to me. The hitch in all of this is overprotective Clinton.

There's any number of other types of drama that can come up besides romantic drama. It's entirely possible that a Claire/Marten pairing could go just fine-ish and some other part of Marten's life could go completely to hell instead, 'cause, y'know, Marten.

Marten does not want Faye to leave. That must mean that he does not want this to develop into something needing privacy.
I don't think Marten 'want' or 'not want' Faye to leave, he looks more surprised than anything else IMHO.

I thought it was a look of sheer "But you can't be leaving! There's still bourbon!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 25 Sep 2014, 10:57
Faye is Marten's best friend. She wants him to be happy, and has decided he is overdue for a new relationship. Enter Faye the Matchmaker. She has been screening possible candidates, and narrowed it down to a couple of library interns. Her verdict:
Faye was not involved in the Delilah affair, but felt sorry for him afterwards. Now, she has decided to play a more active role in Marten's love life. She is afraid Emily is on the verge of seducing Marten, and has decided to act before it is too late.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 25 Sep 2014, 10:59
I see so much going on in Claire's face...
Surprise
Pleasure
Interest
Joy

But I think underpinning all of this is:
Relief

I suspect that a major component of her reaction is knowing that she's getting intimate attention from someone to whom she's out. Like she knows that there's not another shoe that could drop this time because she's already taken care of that.

Am I off base?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: efrumttr on 25 Sep 2014, 11:27
I see so much going on in Claire's face...
Surprise
Pleasure
Interest
Joy

But I think underpinning all of this is:
Relief

I suspect that a major component of her reaction is knowing that she's getting intimate attention from someone to whom she's out. Like she knows that there's not another shoe that could drop this time because she's already taken care of that.

Am I off base?

I'm trans, and I think you're dead on here. It was one of the first things I thought too, at least.

I'm still not sure whether Claire really has a thing for Marten or if she's just letting Faye plant the idea in her head.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 11:28
I think that's about half of what she's  feeling. Balance that with the fact that she's never been in a relationship before so doesn't know how to react, and Marten is one of her closest friends so she really, really doesn't want to screw things up with him. But she's tempted to just give in and let this happen. At the same time, she's tempted to flee in panic.

Been there. Done that. Fled in panic. I'm not proud of it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mikmaxs on 25 Sep 2014, 12:47
I just have to say (Fingers crossed...)
I love it when a ship comes together.
:P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 12:48
Not yet, guys.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mystere9 on 25 Sep 2014, 13:17
Just thought I'd pop in to mention that tomorrow is a Friday. And that today also marks the 1000th strip of Marten being single. ahem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 13:39
Well, singlish at the very least. Padma, after all. They were never together but they were dating, even if briefly and casual.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 13:57
Welcome, new people!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 25 Sep 2014, 14:27
It's funny how many new forumites join when there's a huge cliffhanger incoming.

(I joined during the wedding arc I believe)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 14:33
I always forget how new you are, Masterpiece. Also, apparently I forget how long ago certain events in the comic happened because you joined a year and a half ago. Yikes, I didn't realize the wedding was that long ago.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 25 Sep 2014, 14:34
Year and a Half
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 25 Sep 2014, 14:51
ALL HANDS, BRACE FOR IMPACT!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 Sep 2014, 14:53
Year and a Half
Been nearly four years since the break-up and that's when I joined.
My, how time flies when you're having fun! :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Sep 2014, 15:19
hehe. And I joined when Claire came out to Marten. It's the big events that tend to move people from being just lurkers to active participants.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 25 Sep 2014, 15:41
Joined on the 9th of May 2006 - can't even remember what was going on then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SteveCostello on 25 Sep 2014, 15:45
It's the big events that tend to move people from being just lurkers to active participants.

I have NO idea what you are talking about...

... also, SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 25 Sep 2014, 15:52
I *think* I joined at some point in a Marigold/Dale teasing arc.

Edit: my posts tell me I joined during the Marigold/Tai fanfic arc (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1787). At least I remembered Marigold was involved!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 25 Sep 2014, 15:57
I joined when Marten got the library job, sent here from "Unshelved".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 25 Sep 2014, 16:18
I started reading QC around the time Momo got a new body, and looking through my post history tells me I joined the forum during the "QC IN SPACE" storyline.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Sep 2014, 16:33
Cosette's introduction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 25 Sep 2014, 16:38
Tuesday comic is Clinton's body being attacked by raccoons in a backalley, then, where he is found by Dale Jimbo.

Fixed that for you
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 25 Sep 2014, 16:41
I joined on 3rd June 2009, around the time Hannelore was called in to clean Marigold's flat. The first strip I commented on was this one (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1418).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 25 Sep 2014, 16:41
I joined yesterday, but I started reading about 2 weeks ago when I came across Claire coming out in a strip on tumblr.
I came here for the interest in a trans character, but ended up reading the archive in 2 days and now I'm hooked on all of it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Sep 2014, 16:46
So, I found this on Jeph's tumblr: http://jephjacques.com/post/89450795950/new-poster-ive-been-working-on-for-the-last

From left to right...

Rear row: Marigold, Dale, Emily, Jim, Veronica, Wil, Sven
Middle/front row: Momo, Sam, Angus, Faye, Winslow, Marten, Claire, Penelope, Hannelore, Pintsize, Tai, Dora

/me starts raising the anchor
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 16:53
*stretches forum-legs*
Aaaaaahhhhh, I wonder how long it's been since I posted something here.  I think it's been two years?

anyways,

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MARTEN AND CLAIRE ARE ADORABLE

Edit:  Oh, it's only been four months since I joined.  Huh.  must be some other forum I never post to that I joined a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: eschaton on 25 Sep 2014, 17:00
Jumping out of semi-lurker mode to say my two cents.

I have no issue if Marten and Claire end up in a relationship.  But in terms of good character development, I really really hope Marten doesn't say something like "I just never thought about dating someone trans before!"

I mean, seriously, dude has a gay father.  Not to mention a mom who's a professional dom and fetish model, which meant he was raised in a family where heteronormative, vanilla sexuality was not to be expected.  Even if he ultimately reacted by being pretty sexually conventional, he must have went through a period he questioned it.  Not in a terrified to not be straight manner, but in a "Hrrm...what's the right thing me?" manner.  Thus I'd expect that every possibility, including dating someone trans, has at least crossed his mind before, even if he even ultimately rejected it.

The bottom line is I'd expect he'll either be cool with it and act as if it's no big deal (because he's actually into the idea) or he'll let her down gently.  But I don't expect a lot of "huh buh wuh?" beyond Martin's typical reaction whenever a lady likes him. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 25 Sep 2014, 17:06
I joined right before the space station arc. SPATHE HAM!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 17:18
Welcome, more new people!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 17:23
Jumping out of semi-lurker mode to say my two cents.

I have no issue if Marten and Claire end up in a relationship.  But in terms of good character development, I really really hope Marten doesn't say something like "I just never thought about dating someone trans before!"
naw dude, Marten is too chill to get worked up over whether or not Claire's trans.  Jeph knows this.

remember when Claire came out to him? Marten was just like, "Okay, cool."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 25 Sep 2014, 17:24
So, I found this on Jeph's tumblr: http://jephjacques.com/post/89450795950/new-poster-ive-been-working-on-for-the-last

/me starts raising the anchor

Not complete enough for me to make any judgments, the shoulders are overlapping so you can't get perspective and I need to know where Marten's other arm is.

Edit-Actually, I might see both his arms, I don't know if that's his left arm or Claire's right, though more likely his I think because he's talking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: eschaton on 25 Sep 2014, 17:31
Welcome, more new people!

I actually first registered on the forum in 2008.  Just haven't had anything much to say since then. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 25 Sep 2014, 17:31
If you go to the store you can preview the finished copy of that poster.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Y on 25 Sep 2014, 17:32
I started reading on the April fools switcharoo in 2008, when xkcd redirected here, and QC redirected to dinosaur comics. It was #1110 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1110).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 17:38
She is afraid Emily is on the verge of seducing Marten, and has decided to act before it is too late.
I know right? The feathers and mice weren't enough but if she had time to complete the nest them Marten would be unable to resist!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Sep 2014, 17:42
Uh oh:

Quote from: 'Jacques O'Lantern @jephjacques (Twitter)'
[looks at QC] [picks up a big old ratchet] [RACHET RATCHET RATCHET RATCHET]

muahahahahah


Ruh roh raggy!

I didn't see it so much as that Marten wanted Faye not to leave, but merely that he didn't actively want her to leave, which he would have done if he was hoping to make a move. I don't think he's the sort of person who would consciously "make a move" on someone anyway, but the fact that it doesn't seem to have crossed his mind at all says quite a lot.

I think you're giving Marten friend entirely too much credit for being smooth and you know, forward. Marten doesn't do forward. He doesn't do assertive. Making the first move with a pretty girl is a pretty forward and assertive thing, that if he planned it out, he'd probably be neurotic over for a dozen odd strips. "Shit, shit shit, should I kiss her? Would she be okay with that? There was that one night we snuggled together most of a night..." until the whole forum and universe at large would shout...


Thankfully comrade Bourbon has come to the rescue. Which has to be at least part reason that Marten's hands are wrist deep in Claire's magnificent coiffure. (Fancy Word of the Day darlings!) 

ALL HANDS, BRACE FOR IMPACT!!!


hehe. And I joined when Claire came out to Marten. It's the big events that tend to move people from being just lurkers to active participants.

Same, when the trans thing started getting big on the forum is right around when I started having developments with a trans girl in my own life and I realized "Huh. I know NOTHING about this shit, and have no idea where to get reliable information about this shit. Also I am shit. Shit." google wasn't helping, and the Righteous and Good Lady ZoeB of Upsidedownland (to give her full title :P) was posting lots of things that seemed informative, so I joined pretty much specifically to PM her to pester her with questions.

If you go to the store you can preview the finished copy of that poster.

Hmmm, well Marten's arm isn't around her waist or anything, but Marten friend and Claire friend ARE standing awful close.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 17:46
I joined the forum just after the beach party arc concluded. I think I followed a link here from xkcd when I should have been studying for an exam, and wound up archive-binging for four days. Still passed the exam too.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 17:51
I started reading on the April fools switcharoo in 2008, when xkcd redirected here, and QC redirected to dinosaur comics. It was #1110 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1110).
Oh wow, I remember that switcheroo. That was a fun April Fools' to be on the internet for.

I've been reading for... ages, really. I don't even remember how long. Possibly somewhere around when Marten and Dora started becoming a thing? Ages, and also longtime lurking. My profile says I've been registered since last December, during the "Marigold tries to get Momo to ask Dale out for her, fails spectacularly" flap.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Leveton on 25 Sep 2014, 17:55
I joined just before the cliffhanger at Marten and Faye's when Claire went back with them from the party at the bar.

I mentioned somewhere else that Marten/Claire is the first time I've ever really understood "shipping." I mean, I knew what it is and knew why people got invested in the love lives of their favorite fictional characters, but I was never that invested. Now I am. Go, Marten/Claire!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 25 Sep 2014, 18:23
If you go to the store you can preview the finished copy of that poster.

I was really confused for a moment by the guy in the back. And while I'm as excited about the developments potentially about to occur, can I just alert people to the fact that...

JJIM SHAVED HIS SOUL PATCH

Ground breaking. Earth shattering.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Chelicerate on 25 Sep 2014, 18:26
Pretty sure I joined during the breakup arc (started reading the forums then, at the very least) but I only really started posting after Claire came out to clear up misconceptions (and get very irate and rude in the process).

New comic's posted but it's not fully loaded for me aaaaaaaaaaaa


edit: IT'S EVERYTHING I HOPED FOR
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 25 Sep 2014, 18:27
That look on Claire's face, bwahahahaha ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 25 Sep 2014, 18:29
new page is up! omg so cute!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Sep 2014, 18:29
Snuggling and scratching her back... ohhhhh myyyyy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 25 Sep 2014, 18:36
Cuddles 2: The Snuggling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 25 Sep 2014, 18:39
asdjfhkglsdfduhfkjghdjfg

This strip made me happy, and I love how comfortable Marten seems! He's drunk, sure, but it feels like it's been ages since we saw him so relaxed, and definitely when alone with a potentially romantic interest. Also, I could be mistaken, but it seems to me like he's aware of the connotations of his actions, especially with Claire nuzzling into his neck in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mystere9 on 25 Sep 2014, 18:40
squee.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 25 Sep 2014, 18:41
Wow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 25 Sep 2014, 18:41
squee.
I second that motion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 25 Sep 2014, 18:41
(http://i.imgur.com/udLPEQ2.gif) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUBNpufuks#t=37)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 25 Sep 2014, 18:41
Were those walls always so white?  It looks like purgatory in there.

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How does this happen to me five times?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Sep 2014, 18:44
On a scale of 1 to 10, where 11 is, oh, Hanako Ikezawa, this scene is about a 15.

I think I melted from the cuteness.

And, if Claire didn't have a crush on Marten before, she does now.

Also, you can shut off that warning, it's an option somewhere.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: McFace on 25 Sep 2014, 18:44
OMG of course this is a Friday comic. RAGE.

On a more rational note, Jeph could continue to troll us and have a repeat of the wedding and they just fall asleep innocently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 25 Sep 2014, 18:45
Were those walls always so white?  It looks like purgatory in there.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post. \

How does this happen to me five times?
Once for each reply probably.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 18:45
Oh my god. Just. Oh my god. I might just die of cute.

By this point, they're a thing, right? Right? 'Cause Marten would have to be miiiiiighty drunk to do this and not see it as him pursuing (with much success so far) a relationship. Or we're still at the bar and the past few strips have all been taking place inside Claire's head after Faye's instigation. But that's a cheap trick, and I don't think that's going on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 25 Sep 2014, 18:46
Hanako Ikezawa
Man her arch just made me feel even worse for her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 25 Sep 2014, 18:47
I shall be sqeeeee-Ing in the corner. Come get me out of I haven't stopped by Monday.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 25 Sep 2014, 18:47
Dawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Maybe they'll wake up in the wedding hotel room and the last several months will have been a dream sequence  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: RaineThing on 25 Sep 2014, 18:47
The cuteness is reaching critical levels.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 25 Sep 2014, 18:49
 :psyduck: I don't wanna have to wait 3 days to know what happens! GIVE ME MORE CUTENESS
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mystere9 on 25 Sep 2014, 18:50
OMG of course this is a Friday comic. RAGE.

On a more rational note, Jeph could continue to troll us and have a repeat of the wedding and they just fall asleep innocently.
It would stand to reason, since we didn't get a double-length Friday strip this time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 25 Sep 2014, 18:51
:psyduck: I don't wanna have to wait 3 days to know what happens! GIVE ME MORE CUTENESS

No, no.  Enjoy the cuteness while you can, for with Monday comes the "uh oh".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 Sep 2014, 18:53
And then Claire woke up from the Marten-massage induced daydream!
...
...
...
I'm going to run before someone kills me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 18:53
squee.
I second that motion.
the jury has reached a unanimous decision - this is adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 18:56
And then Claire woke up from the Marten-massage induced daydream!
...
...
...
I'm going to run before someone kills me.
Relax, you're only the third person so far to suggest the possibility of a dream sequence. Which, I maintain, would be a cheap trick.

I really hope it isn't one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mojo on 25 Sep 2014, 18:56
Ok, I'll be that guy.

Uh oh.

 :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 18:56
Break out the champagne, this ship is launched.

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15 pages by Monday? We can do it!

My wife keeps asking me why I'm grinning like an idiot. If she read QC she'd understand.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmee on 25 Sep 2014, 18:57
we are approaching maximum cute
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: eschaton on 25 Sep 2014, 18:57
This must be a dream sequence for Claire.  There's no way Marten could be that smooth. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 Sep 2014, 18:58
Relax, you're only the third person so far to suggest the possibility of a dream sequence.

How the hell did I miss that?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Sep 2014, 18:58
You know, I just realized something.

Faye's probably hearing this.

Depending on how long between this strip and the previous one... I'm wondering if she thinks this has gone to different places than it actually has.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 19:01
You know, I just realized something.

Faye's probably hearing this.

Depending on how long between this strip and the previous one... I'm wondering if she thinks this has gone to different places than it actually has.
oh god, I just realised how laden with innuendo this strip is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 25 Sep 2014, 19:01
So. much. Squee. Can't contain Squee.

Will only stop when those two will stop being so adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 25 Sep 2014, 19:03
:psyduck: I don't wanna have to wait 3 days to know what happens! GIVE ME MORE CUTENESS

No you fool, we cannae take those levels of kyoot for long!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 19:03
Faye right now is dancing in her room, with an expression on her face that says "Mission Accomplished".

Hell, she's probably as thrilled about this as the forum is. Marten is her best friend, she loves him (in a purely platonic way) and wants him to be happy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 25 Sep 2014, 19:04
OMG of course this is a Friday comic. RAGE.

I don't know, last weeks was a friday rage cliffhanger. If the story was delayed a day and yesterdays were posted today it would be too.

This is a completely satisfying payoff.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 25 Sep 2014, 19:05
Sorry, didn't mean for my post to come across as trans-phobic.
I only know one trans, and she was the one who introduced me to the word "trap", and didn't use it in a pejorative manner.
Still I apologize sincerely but for one thing: Still shipping Emilten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: eschaton on 25 Sep 2014, 19:06
I hope this isn't considered transphobic of me to say, but I remembered Marten does have a hangup which will make it kind of hard for him to be in a relationship with Claire. 

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 25 Sep 2014, 19:08
I hope this isn't considered transphobic of me to say, but I remembered Marten does have a hangup which will make it kind of hard for him to be in a relationship with Claire. 

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18)

Yes it is somewhat transphobic of you to say. If not transphobic, at least completely insensitive.

Also keep in mind that strip was eleven years ago. A lot has changed since then, and Marten is a very different person today than he was.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 19:09
Let's not even go there, OK? Marten has known for a while now that Claire is trans and has obviously reached a point where it doesn't bother him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 19:09
There's 2782 strips between that and this. Characters aren't static, and that may well be ignored and treated as passive change. Clearly, Drunk Marten seems to be okay with things as they're proceeding.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 25 Sep 2014, 19:09
Dang, this is like too cute to handle.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 25 Sep 2014, 19:10
This must be a dream sequence for Claire.  There's no way Marten could be that smooth.

He's not. I'm speaking from experience here, as someone who's only ever been smooth accidentally.

On a not entirely unrelated note, for all the talk about Marten's happiness/luck or lack thereof, it's nice to see what appears for now to be a positive experience for Claire. I'm just trying not to get my hopes up between now and Monday...

Meantime, you have to admit, they make an adorable couple.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 19:10
(click to show/hide)
The End
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 19:11
:psyduck: I don't wanna have to wait 3 days to know what happens! GIVE ME MORE CUTENESS

No you fool, we cannae take those levels of kyoot for long!
but it's so KYOOT!  Squee!  :-D

we can totally take this much cute!  We must be strong!
I hope this isn't considered transphobic of me to say, but I remembered Marten does have a hangup which will make it kind of hard for him to be in a relationship with Claire. 

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18)
preeeettty sure the early characterizations don't really count anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 25 Sep 2014, 19:12
I hope this isn't considered transphobic of me to say, but I remembered Marten does have a hangup which will make it kind of hard for him to be in a relationship with Claire. 

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18)
Sex doesn't always have to be parts going in other parts, you know.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: eschaton on 25 Sep 2014, 19:12
Yes it is somewhat transphobic of you to say. If not transphobic, at least completely insensitive.

Also keep in mind that strip was eleven years ago. A lot has changed since then, and Marten is a very different person today than he was.

It was eleven years ago in our time.  In strip time I dunno how much time has actually passed.  My guess is no more than 2-3 years tops honestly. 

Though I will admit, Jeph was still figuring Marten out a that point, so I'd be inclined to give him a pass there - the same way Hanners took around 50 strips to approach her set personality. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 25 Sep 2014, 19:19
Claire just completely destroyed the QC adorability record. I'll be squeeing into next week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 19:19
Next comic we will have marten freaking out for breaking his core values, things he never imagined himself doing:
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 19:21
Next comic we will have marten freaking out for breaking his core values, things he never imagined himself doing:
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
NO!  Why must Marten be so misguided in his niceness?
*totally thinks Jeph would do it, too*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: slydon on 25 Sep 2014, 19:23
Hanako Ikezawa
Man her arch just made me feel even worse for her.
But white knighting Hanako gets you the bad ending. :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pretender on 25 Sep 2014, 19:24
You guys don't have friends give you oddly intimate massages? How do you survive without oddly intimate friends' massages? D:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 19:26
Eh, the intern thing. I think he's been using that as an excuse to disguise the fact that he's just plain weirded out by Emily. Even if that's not the case though, it's not like anyone around him is going to judge him for it. Tai's made fun of that hangup, and Faye encouraged this. If anything, they might judge him for being a hypocrite, but hypocrites are a plentiful sort.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 19:26
You guys don't have friends give you oddly intimate massages? How do you survive without oddly intimate friends' massages? D:
Where do I get potential romantic interest friendly massages?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 25 Sep 2014, 19:27
Monday is kissing and we find out where Hanners went. Just off panel, terrified. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2590)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pretender on 25 Sep 2014, 19:31
You guys don't have friends give you oddly intimate massages? How do you survive without oddly intimate friends' massages? D:
Where do I get potential romantic interest friendly massages?
Those hurt the wallet. I stick with oddly intimate friendly massages.

For real, though, my friend gives me those kind of massages all the time and he gives them to everyone. Seems to me like Marten's not in the know of what Faye's instigated.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Bob of the South on 25 Sep 2014, 19:37
Just dropped back in to say I approve of this. Greatly. Also? D'awwwwww.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Torlek on 25 Sep 2014, 19:46
Re: Mentions of Marten's no anal rule, vaginoplasty is a thing. (Presuming, of course, that Claire has had SRS. She might have not. Jeph only knows.)

That said, Claire strikes me as the type that might have hang-ups and/or no particular interest in sex. While it is known she enjoys the appearance of the male posterior (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2301), that's no certain indicator she has any particular care for other bits of the male anatomy. Also, given Marten's disappointment after his last encounter with a lady, something romantic yet not sexual (or very minorly sexual) may be what he seeks.

Or he could just be drunk cuddling. Jeph only knows.

The forum is approaching critical squee, LAUNCH THE SHIPPERS. But beware the failboat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 25 Sep 2014, 19:53
Oi. No postulating, thinking or speculating about Claire or any one else's genitals. I'm not a mod but we're heading in that direction and that is not okay good to go?

In other news....

I literally did a cartwheel and I'm grinning like a madman. The parrot thinks I'm insane as opposed to a food source for once.


Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 25 Sep 2014, 19:55
I hate to be the party pooper but as cute as Marten and Claire are together, there's no guarantee that Marten actually would want to date a transwoman so this could quickly turn into a source of angst for all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Near Lurker on 25 Sep 2014, 19:58
Eh, the intern thing. I think he's been using that as an excuse to disguise the fact that he's just plain weirded out by Emily. Even if that's not the case though, it's not like anyone around him is going to judge him for it. Tai's made fun of that hangup, and Faye encouraged this. If anything, they might judge him for being a hypocrite, but hypocrites are a plentiful sort.

Gabby.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 Sep 2014, 19:59
Claire is not human.
She is actually an agent of the Secret Cat Conspiracy.
So now Marten must die.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Emoroffle on 25 Sep 2014, 20:01
This is a fun development. Now excuse me while I go squee to death.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 20:05
Oi. No postulating, thinking or speculating about Claire or any one else's genitals. I'm not a mod but we're heading in that direction and that is not okay good to go?
Agreed.  Her lady parts are her lady parts, irrespective of what they look like.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 25 Sep 2014, 20:06
Eh, the intern thing. I think he's been using that as an excuse to disguise the fact that he's just plain weirded out by Emily. Even if that's not the case though, it's not like anyone around him is going to judge him for it. Tai's made fun of that hangup, and Faye encouraged this. If anything, they might judge him for being a hypocrite, but hypocrites are a plentiful sort.

Gabby.
Ah yes. It's been a while since we've seen her, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kryptoknight on 25 Sep 2014, 20:07
*Snoopy happy dance*

I've been waiting for these two to hook up practically since Claire first appeared.  She's one of my favorite characters. ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 20:08
Marten and Claire marry. Faye and Angus also Marry just like Marigold and Dale all them in a perfect triple wedding organized by Hannelore.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Sep 2014, 20:09
Tai, I expect, is going to cover for Marten and Claire until one of them (probably Marten) can find a new job and remove the ethical conflict. This may be exactly the kick in the pants Marten needs to get out of his rut and get his life moving forward.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: satsujin24 on 25 Sep 2014, 20:09
SRS usually follows 1-2 years after HRT starts, which claire has only been on for months from what I recall.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 25 Sep 2014, 20:11
I am so full of happy and squee!

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 25 Sep 2014, 20:19
Oi. No postulating, thinking or speculating about Claire or any one else's genitals. I'm not a mod but we're heading in that direction and that is not okay good to go?
Agreed.  Her lady parts are her lady parts, irrespective of what they look like.

Well we can't speculate on Claire's genitals or Marten's genitals, but I don't think there's anything in the forum rules that prohibits us from discussing Marten's sexual hangups or the mechanics of sex.

Per the letter of the law, I suppose we could discuss the nature of a hypothetical sexual encounter between Mr. X and Miss Y, provided we only speak of these hypothetical people, as opposed to any real people or characters of an established fiction.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Chelicerate on 25 Sep 2014, 20:29
How about we don't?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aliensporebomb on 25 Sep 2014, 20:29
Well geez this is turning into cutesville around here!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 20:32
Per the letter of the law, I suppose we could discuss the nature of a hypothetical sexual encounter between Mr. X and Miss Y, provided we only speak of these hypothetical people, as opposed to any real people or characters of an established fiction.
If you did that, there'd be no reason to do that here. GM said it well, there's really no reason to go there, and it's outright hurtful to some people. So everyone please STOP.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 25 Sep 2014, 20:32
SRS usually follows 1-2 years after HRT starts, which claire has only been on for months from what I recall.
Claire started transitioning when she joined college. She's now 24.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 25 Sep 2014, 20:34
So, roughly 6-7 years, tops.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 25 Sep 2014, 20:44
To depart from genitals, I like Marten's face in panel 2 a lot. For the art style simpling up a bit lately, it conveys a lot of expression.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 25 Sep 2014, 20:50
Never drunkenly flirt, appear to flirt, or drunkenly send mixed signals.

Never seen any evidence as to any romantic interests of Martin with anyone since aborted Space Fail, except weird reactions to his interpretations of Emily putting moves on him.

So...either Marten is a stupid head here...or I've missed some DEM shenanigans.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kryptoknight on 25 Sep 2014, 20:54
Marten and Claire marry. Faye and Angus also Marry just like Marigold and Dale all them in a perfect triple wedding organized by Hannelore.

(click to show/hide)

Don't even joke man.  Jeph is just cruel enough a trollverlord to do just that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TRVA123 on 25 Sep 2014, 20:59
hmmm, I bet Marten and Claire will start dating, then, once Marten is taken, Faye and Angus will break up. Thus preserving the "never the twain shall meet" path that the universe has for Marten and Faye. This pattern will continue for the rest of their lives. While one is with a partner the other will be single.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 21:04
They finally hook up in the old folk's home in the far, far, future after Jeph has become a cyborg who has been doing this comic for a couple of centuries.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 21:05
So like...six more years in comic time?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 25 Sep 2014, 21:08
So is Claire the Crimson Cuddler or the Scarlet Squee now?   :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 21:09
So like...six more years in comic time?
There's a time-skip involved to skip a several boring decades.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 25 Sep 2014, 21:10
They finally hook up in the old folk's home in the far, far, future after Jeph has become a cyborg who has been doing this comic for a couple of centuries.

Somewhat reminds me of the terrible HIMYM ending.

I will remain forever alone on my Emily/Marten pontoon I guess. Claire/Marten just doesn't do it for me at all.  I'm the lone wolf.   That's fine.  It's got beer and fireworks stocks on this here pontoon.  Time to float down the river.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 25 Sep 2014, 21:10
So like...six more years in comic time?

(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/picard_clapping.gif)

Genuinely laughed out loud.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 21:16
Oi. No postulating, thinking or speculating about Claire or any one else's genitals. I'm not a mod but we're heading in that direction and that is not okay good to go?

Global Moderator Comment Well said, and also a matter of forum rules. The mods found out that even in the case of a fictional character it's painfully rude to discuss SRS.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 21:19
So like...six more years in comic time?

(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/picard_clapping.gif)

Genuinely laughed out loud.
Thank you (bows)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LeeC on 25 Sep 2014, 21:21
is it wrong that I want this to end horribly because it would be funny and awkward? :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 21:22
Nah. Wait...how horribly?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: rschill on 25 Sep 2014, 21:23
is it wrong that I want this to end horribly because it would be funny and awkward? :psyduck:
 

I thought Dale and Marigold had the awkward thing locked down. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 21:25
That was funny and awkward without ending horribly though. EVERYBODY WON. (Except the pancakes)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 21:26
Nah. Wait...how horribly?
Faye starts another fire just as things are about to get more interesting, and they have to flee the building.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 21:33
Forum rules specific to talking about or with trans people (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,27423.msg1205549.html#msg1205549).

Let's follow the creator's lead. Someone in a Q&A asked him "what flavor of trans" Claire is.
Quote from: Jeph
She's a redhead.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 21:45
Hmm.  I guess that would mean "strawberry".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 25 Sep 2014, 21:47
Quote
(click to show/hide)

Claire was right, whoever programmed that is a dick (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2280).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 22:02
And I will spoil your beautiful moment by mentioning that everybory have been ignoring on the possibility that Marten will be the one stretched.

Don't look me like that! I just miss Pintsize in the comic!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 25 Sep 2014, 22:11
Great, Monday's comic is Pintsize humping a cereal box with a bowl on his head as a hat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 22:18
And I will spoil your beautiful moment by mentioning that everybory have been ignoring on the possibility that Marten will be the one stretched.

Don't look me like that! I just miss Pintsize in the comic!
...
nope, not getting into it.
*deleted because I took the bait*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 22:22
Global Moderator Comment Were we not clear? I don't want to have to lock this thread.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 25 Sep 2014, 22:27
By this point, they're a thing, right? Right? 'Cause Marten would have to be miiiiiighty drunk to do this and not see it as him pursuing (with much success so far) a relationship. Or we're still at the bar and the past few strips have all been taking place inside Claire's head after Faye's instigation. But that's a cheap trick, and I don't think that's going on.
Not so fast. There is plenty of room for complications.
Afterwards, Marten will think nothing of it, and continue to treat Claire as before. Claire, however, will be deeply frustrated, particularly if Marten starts dating Emily. Catfights will happen at the library.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 25 Sep 2014, 22:30
This comic and the previous one give me all kind of warmsies, but some comments here leave me perplexed and vaguely annoyed. This is just scratching and cuddling between friends, folks. Why assume it bears any flirtatious content?

Two months ago I was invited for a weekend-long party at a gîte to celebrate a couple of friends' five years of marriage. The first night, I spent over an hour massaging a woman. She was one of the few people I didn't know beforehand at that party. I massaged her feet, her ankles, her shanks, her knees, her thighs, her neck, her shoulders, her back. My hands were just itching for providing some comfort, and she was the first woman in years to let me. She thanked me several times over the weekend, saying she hadn't felt so relaxed in forever. But there was nothing flirtatious in that, now was there?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Sep 2014, 22:31
Maybe? Also...what are "shanks"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 25 Sep 2014, 22:34
Marten's last line to me really rules out it being a misunderstanding. If it's a fakeout it has to all be a dream.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 22:36
It's definitely flirt-flavored, unless he would do the same with e.g. Steve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 25 Sep 2014, 22:39
@Schmorgluck:  Well, Claire being red as a beet is definitely a clue that she finds it "vaguely flirtatious."   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 22:50
There's another reason Claire might not be looking for a relationship. She's a graduate student, probably busy, and definitely passionate about her career. She may prefer not to have the distraction.

Not that falling in love is a matter of choice ...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 22:50
Afterwards, Marten will think nothing of it, and continue to treat Claire as before. Claire, however, will be deeply frustrated, particularly if Marten starts dating Emily. Catfights will happen at the library.

Claire and Marten would make a cute couple but I don't want a sad Emily...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 25 Sep 2014, 22:53
Well, because they seem warm and affectionate with each other on a level that might go further than friends.
I dunno, I read through the whole wedding arc and Marten seems particularly sweet with her and didn't seem adverse or freaked out by the previous cuddles, more important Claire trusts him not to freak out.

It's true, he might not have any intentions beyond just friendly, but in my opinion the best romantic relationships start out as friendships where people can be honest with each other.
We already know that Marten wants to be in a romantic relationship with someone and wants it to be a real connection rather than superficial.

Claire trusted him pretty deeply right away and she was already invited by Martin to socialize with his unconventional family.  So, these are cuddles and scritches between two friends, yes... but there is a kind of emotional intimacy that is being combined here which I think is where the romantic implications are being assumed.


You're totally right though. Martin could be oblivious to her crush, but I think it's interesting that after suspecting Emily's interest he invited Claire to the party. Also, I think Faye is assuming that Marten also likes Claire and saw his actions as putting the moves on Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 25 Sep 2014, 22:54
Well!!!!


THIS is where things get interesting - again.




Global Moderator Comment And remember, any inappropriate ships WILL be torpedoed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 25 Sep 2014, 22:56
Maybe? Also...what are "shanks"?
Should have said "calves", my bad.

I should just ask my friends if they think it was flirtatious. I have no clue on these matters.

And remember, any inappropriate ships WILL be torpedoed.
Am I still allowed to ship Abby and Elliot? I avoid mentioning it more than once a year so as not to be obnoxious about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 25 Sep 2014, 22:56
Great, Monday's comic is Pintsize humping a cereal box with a bowl on his head as a hat.
While Steve is all "Dude, my cheerios!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Game and Watch Forever on 25 Sep 2014, 23:01
Claire and Marten would make a cute couple but I don't want a sad Emily...  :psyduck:

I feel like Emily would bounce back from it quickly, assuming it did make her even a little sad... though perhaps there's a banana smoothie delivery person/superhero she could fall in love with? Pizza girl can't be the only one, right?

Also, I've been squeeing with the whole lot of you. I'm really scared it's going to backpedal several steps back. Or worse, it's not an in-strip dream, but a dream I'm having!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 23:02
Well!!!!


THIS is where things get interesting - again.




And remember, any inappropriate ships WILL be torpedoed.

*Suppressing Pintisize instinct of making innuendo jokes with torpedoes and ships.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 25 Sep 2014, 23:02
My Ship will always be Fishhead Faye and Moosehead Dora as illustrated in my Avatar.

There are no other ships for me!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Y on 25 Sep 2014, 23:06
I wonder if drunk Marten somehow realizes he's cheating on Emily in some way, or that he's now getting involved with 2 girls yet again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 25 Sep 2014, 23:06
I initially squeed but, after reading the comments here, I have come to the conclusion that those suggesting it's a dream are partially right -- I think it is a dream but it's only the last two strips that are the dream.  I suspect that, when she said, "Mistakes were made," she realised going back to Marten's was not something she wanted to do that night.  She's either going to wake up in her own bed and wonder how much of the night was real or she's having this day dream in front of them and she's going to be brought back to reality when Faye or Marten asks her what she meant by "Don't ever stop."

There are two reasons why I think it's a dream:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 25 Sep 2014, 23:06
Claire and Marten would make a cute couple but I don't want a sad Emily...  :psyduck:

I feel like Emily would bounce back from it quickly, assuming it did make her even a little sad... though perhaps there's a banana smoothie delivery person/superhero she could fall in love with? Pizza girl can't be the only one, right?
Well, there's Chinese Delivery Man. We haven't seen any other delivery superheroes that I know of.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 25 Sep 2014, 23:08
Great, Monday's comic is Pintsize humping a cereal box with a bowl on his head as a hat.
While Steve is all "Dude, my cheerios!"

Pintsize is yelling at Steve to pour the milk on him.

Winslow is off to the side saying "I'm not filming this"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 25 Sep 2014, 23:09
I initially squeed but, after reading the comments here, I have come to the conclusion that those suggesting it's a dream are partially right -- I think it is a dream but it's only the last two strips that are the dream.  I suspect that, when she said, "Mistakes were made," she realised going back to Marten's was not something she wanted to do that night.  She's either going to wake up in her own bed and wonder how much of the night was real or she's having this day dream in front of them and she's going to be brought back to reality when Faye or Marten asks her what she meant by "Don't ever stop."

There are two reasons why I think it's a dream:
  • It's out of character for Marten.
  • The colour of the walls is wrong.
Yeah, Marten is strangely smooth. I don't think alcohol alone could do this.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 25 Sep 2014, 23:14
I wonder if drunk Marten somehow realizes he's cheating on Emily in some way, or that he's now getting involved with 2 girls yet again.

Maybe I'm missing something (lord knows, wouldn't be the first time), but how does one cheat on someone with whom one is not sexually, emotionally or romantically involved? I imagine Things will Happen (of one kind or another) and Marten will analyze the crap out of it, because Marten. But he'll eventually get to a healthy place with it all (perhaps via a clue-by-four administered by one of the gang). I think the intern thing is a workaround for someone he may not be that interested in -- and who, bear in mind, we haven't even established is interested in him -- but who he probably just doesn't want to be an asshole about.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Sep 2014, 23:17
Claire trusted him pretty deeply right away

He's lived up to that trust, thus reinforcing it. It's a good foundation for whatever Marten and Claire end up doing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 25 Sep 2014, 23:19
Honestly, I don't think that things will go into "and then they screw" territory any time soon.  If this ship is going to set sail, it needs to get out of the harbour first.  Claire has pretty much stated that she's never had a relationship, *and* has anxiety issues (hence the Ativan scrip), so I don't think that in this arc, it'll go beyond maybe some smooching, and ending up like the wedding arc, except where she doesn't switch beds in the middle of the night.  It'd make more sense from a storytelling perspective, since it'd provide more time for things to grow, and develop the evolution of not only Marten and Claire, but the other characters in the story as well.  And like any good harem anime, even sad Emily would still love her friends.

 Jeph could, of course, twist the knife and make things fall apart.  But given that for a little while, I hadn't been getting as much out of the comic as I would have liked, no matter which way he takes things, I know that I'm seriously hooked.

As a side-note, when Claire first appeared, she rather annoyed me as a character, since I just saw her as "girl Clinton".  I'm glad that she's developed far past that into a much more interesting and endearing character. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 25 Sep 2014, 23:20
I just had another thought: What if the last two strips form Marten's dream?  I can just see Faye asking Marten, "What do you need bathroom breaks from?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 25 Sep 2014, 23:22
Well!!!!


THIS is where things get interesting - again.




And remember, any inappropriate ships WILL be torpedoed.

*Suppressing Pintisize instinct of making innuendo jokes with torpedoes and ships.


Global Moderator Comment While I may have said it lightheartedly, my last comment was NOT to be taken facetiously.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 25 Sep 2014, 23:24


There are two reasons why I think it's a dream:
  • It's out of character for Marten.
  • The colour of the walls is wrong.


I don't have an argument against your first point except that Marten has been pretty chill with Claire from the beginning (He was actually pretty chill with Faye in the beginning. The Dora break-up kind of shook him up for a while I think)
-but yeah...He's being pretty unusually smooth here. 

as for two...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2768

They look like the same walls to me?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 25 Sep 2014, 23:26
To be clear, my "dream theory" was intended as a "maybe Jeph is trolling us" joke

It's a new kind of awakening for Claire but there's still the very real possibility of it getting weird.

Marten, I think, is simply getting better with practice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 25 Sep 2014, 23:29
I loved the idea someone posted earlier where Faye completely takes the convo from the current comic out of context.
I think that has a potential for mild drama and high comedy that could be pretty entertaining for a long run.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Shjade on 25 Sep 2014, 23:33
Regarding the out-of-characterness of this interaction with Claire, I don't see it that way.

Consider the following:

- Last time in recent memory we saw Marten being social and buzzed at the same time, he made an (awkward) advance that ended up in a one-night stand.

- Marten's been pretty chill with Claire for a fair amount of time now, so he has no reason to be awkward around her as he might be around/toward relative strangers.

I think it's a pretty cut and dry case of SUI (scratching under the influence). No reason to read too much into it one way or the other. He's demonstrated a tendency toward being more amorous (or at least more open to the possibilities in that direction) while buzzed and he's comfortable around Claire. These two things are intersecting. This does not surprise me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Angelus_Primus on 25 Sep 2014, 23:37
By the bys: Neko_Ali and Angelus_Primus have the same avatar.

I'm guessing Angelus copied mine. I made mine from the comic. I suppose they could have done the same thing, but it looks exactly like mine.

Guilty, I'll change when I have a moment. I was making my own, with the exact same picture and then I saw yours and I was already late for work so...

If you run into me I'll buy you chocolate ice cream.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 26 Sep 2014, 00:02
I loved the idea someone posted earlier where Faye completely takes the convo from the current comic out of context.
I think that has a potential for mild drama and high comedy that could be pretty entertaining for a long run.

Hasn't Jeph stated repeatedly that he is not going to write a comedy of errors?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 26 Sep 2014, 00:04
I am in the "Everyone realizes Marten is making a move - except Marten" camp, but that may just be projection.

That said, this is absolutely adorbs. I repeat, absolutely adorbs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 26 Sep 2014, 00:11
While I may have said it lightheartedly, my last comment was NOT to be taken facetiously.

I don't think there's any ships left. Just about everyone's taken.(Note: Not a challenge for people to start coming up with some)

And even if that weren't the case I'm not getting off this luxury cruise for some beat up fishing dingy anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Angelus_Primus on 26 Sep 2014, 00:37
 I do feel bad for Emily, first the little fiery redhead steals her peas joke, and now a potential smooching partner.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2437
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 26 Sep 2014, 00:40
I hope this isn't considered transphobic of me to say, but I remembered Marten does have a hangup which will make it kind of hard for him to be in a relationship with Claire. 

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=18)
Sex doesn't always have to be parts going in other parts, you know.

Also, Claire's parts have never been alluded to in the comic, because they weren't relevant. There's no basis to assume what her transition involves beyond what she explicitly said (#2324 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2324)).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Loki on 26 Sep 2014, 00:44
Let's just not talk about parts anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Angelus_Primus on 26 Sep 2014, 00:47
Let's just not talk about parts anymore.

Awwww...
(http://gagelsautoparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/florida-car-parts.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 26 Sep 2014, 01:34
I know I'm late to the party, but,

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

And I also want to say, this sort of situation is EXACTLY how I got together with my ex-girlfriend.
So,

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sidhekin on 26 Sep 2014, 02:21
It's definitely flirt-flavored, unless he would do the same with e.g. Steve.
What, he wouldn't flirt with Steve?

... oh, those weren't canon?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aimless on 26 Sep 2014, 02:28
I'm in the "Marten is too Marten to let himself or others know what he wants" camp. The only questions I have are: what will he admit to? and how will he mess it up? :o

*cynic*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 26 Sep 2014, 02:30
I am in the "Everyone realizes Marten is making a move - except Marten" camp, but that may just be projection.
That's how I interpreted it too.  He's drunk, he's doing what feels good without thinking about it, and eventually he'll realize that the reason it feels good is that he's developing feelings for Claire.  (Once he realizes it, he'll probably get a good deal more awkward and possibly freak out about the ethics of dating an intern.)

Edit: PS. Regarding Emily, Marten didn't seem at all attracted to her (his reaction to the idea of her having a crush on him was more or less "oh s***, I hope not"), so it's not like there's really some "choice" for him to make between Emily and Claire.  I don't think that in all his discussion of Emily kissing his cheek, he ever once alluded to any possibility that he might even maybe want it to lead to something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ElsaStegosaurus on 26 Sep 2014, 03:02
Registered a while ago to read some discussion, but hey, maybe I'll finally post in the glorious attempt to hit 15 pages.

Holy crap, I had not realized just how much I was rooting for this to happen!  I see so damn much of myself in Claire as a fellow anxious, medicated trans woman who moved to a new part of the world where no one knows my medical history...  So yeah, I have a little bit of myself invested in her story.  I've been reading QC for years and years, but in the last several months I find myself clicking and subconsciously hoping that Claire's (and her pun-face) in the comic.

I think Platypodes is spot on with everything they said, the "intern ethics" thing is surely going to come up one way or another, but I'm hoping against all hope that at least this night ends well.

Quack.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 26 Sep 2014, 03:14
(Once he realizes it, he'll probably get a good deal more awkward and possibly freak out about the ethics of dating an intern.)
Easy enough way around that.  Remove Marten from the chain of command, and make $intern whose ship has sailed Momo's responsibility.  That way, it'd just be like dating someone you work with.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HES on 26 Sep 2014, 04:34
It's the big events that tend to move people from being just lurkers to active participants.
Or from lurkers to slightly-less-lurky lurkers
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 26 Sep 2014, 04:39
Yeah, I guess a freak out from Marten is very likely after this. The alcohol has lowered his inhibitions, and he's probably going to regret this, because it changes the status quo. Then come his troubles with dating an intern.

I am in the "Everyone realizes Marten is making a move - except Marten" camp, but that may just be projection.

Also likely.

I mean, the drunk bubbles are still around. He's clearly just doing what he's feeling like right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Sep 2014, 04:41
(Once he realizes it, he'll probably get a good deal more awkward and possibly freak out about the ethics of dating an intern.)
Easy enough way around that.  Remove Marten from the chain of command, and make $intern whose ship has sailed Momo's responsibility.  That way, it'd just be like dating someone you work with.

As I've said before, there are two easy ways to deal with it:

1. Marten needs a better job anyway. He goes out and gets one. Problem solved.

2. Claire, Emily and Gabby were described as "summer interns" when they first appeared. Summer ends, and Claire's internship ends. Problem solved.

Either way, Tai is in a position to cover for them until things are resolved, as long as they don't get too affectionate at work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HES on 26 Sep 2014, 04:47
The way I see it the whole "moral dilemma" is just Marten making excuses and isn't actually a problem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Sep 2014, 04:49
You know, I'm wondering what a retail job at a music store would pay, relative to his job at Smif. It'd be a lateral move at best, but it'd be at least working with things that he likes, and he could get an employee discount.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 26 Sep 2014, 04:53
Quote
Falling asleep in each other's arms is appropriate at this point though.

That's what we did in a similar situation at New Years Eve 1979. By February 1980, just two months later, we were engaged, and married a year later.

It's been an interesting 33 years.
Pretty much like today's story. Same words too "Don't ever stop."

As for the elephant in the room - it would be unreasonable for commenters not to remark on it. OK, it's been remarked on, so onto more important things. Two rather nice people who just might be falling for each other. Does it matter that one has red hair?

And if this is a long term thing - "Don't ever stop." - whats Veronica's reaction going to be? There is plenty of scope for comedic confusion, as so many think they know more than they do, and some misconceptions are hilarious. She's likely to have more than most.

Then there's the desire for genetically related grandkids. But we're maybe only 25 years away from that in this Universe, and the QC one is definitely more scientifically advanced in many ways. I'm sure if one of the Deep AI's was persuaded to take an interest, it would be a choice Claire could have. Maybe Marten's Dad or his partner too, for that matter.

Meanwhile Claire is finding out just how good it is to be a straight girl in a really nice guy's arms. *BLISS*

I'm going to SQUEE now. I confess, I hope it's something serious, and not just exploration. Afraid to keep my hopes up too high though.

Meh. What the heck.

SQUEEEEE
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 04:54
(Once he realizes it, he'll probably get a good deal more awkward and possibly freak out about the ethics of dating an intern.)
Easy enough way around that.  Remove Marten from the chain of command, and make $intern whose ship has sailed Momo's responsibility.  That way, it'd just be like dating someone you work with.
Which is still somewhat unethical. I've known a few bosses and managers whose opinion about workplace relationships can be summed up as "Don't dip your pen in the company ink". Even if Marten was no longer in charge of the interns, he'd still be a superior by dint of working there for longer.
We don't know what policies Smif might have, so there's a potential hurdle.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 26 Sep 2014, 05:12
Barroom Blitz
(Remember, folks, I didn't start this thread.)

Pugnacious Peach Pugilistic Punchout    6 (7.6%)
Claire Crimson Cheek Continuation    41 (51.9%) <== Bright Crimson Red.
Marten Mainly Mumbles Methodiclly    5 (6.3%)
Steve Swallows Serially    1 (1.3%)
Battling Bianchi Battlezone    4 (5.1%)
Tai Terrorizes Tall Twin    1 (1.3%)
Jeph Jacques Japes    6 (7.6%)
Waffling Waffles Wander Wonderingly    3 (3.8%)
Butts    12 (15.2%)

Total Members Voted: 79
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 26 Sep 2014, 05:15
Does it matter that one has red hair?
Well, it's a well-established fact that gingers don't have souls, so…
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rhymeless on 26 Sep 2014, 05:17
Unlurked! I am unlurked!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 26 Sep 2014, 05:58
You know, I'm wondering what a retail job at a music store would pay, relative to his job at Smif. It'd be a lateral move at best, but it'd be at least working with things that he likes, and he could get an employee discount.

The problem is, he would not be able to afford an employee discount.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Sep 2014, 06:08
The other thing is, I wonder what sort of connections Marten might have through everyone at Smif... might he be able to actually get a side gig writing about music, that actually pays (unlike his aborted blog), and might develop into something stable?

Edit: And apparently I'm the one that's pushed the thread into big thread territory.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 06:10
Unlurked! I am unlurked!
*waves*
This storyline is creating so many new forumites (including myself) and I love it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 26 Sep 2014, 06:10
I really feel like everyone (both in the forums and in the comic) is blowing the ethical dilemma WAY out of proportion.  There is definitely a standard of conduct between coworkers in the workplace, and this might be an issue between two people in a large corporation, if it were a supervisor/subordinate relationship that existed fairly high up the food chain. 

They're working at a university library.

Due to his lack of anything remotely resembling a Library Sciences degree, Marten is at best some sort of generic library assistant.  I'd posit there's a pretty good chance that his job duties involve little more than what he showed the interns in the montage - basic library and facility upkeep duties.  I seriously doubt he has ANY administrative duties at all, those would fall to Tai, especially anything involving hiring/firing or scheduling (if the interns are paid, I can guarantee that is controlled by someone above her, probably the HR unit of whatever department the library falls under).  If I had to guess, the interns are doing the exact same thing that Marten is, and he's only marginally "above" them because he's a permanent employee and has been there longer.  His actual degree of control over them is likely limited to having them run minor errands or something, and I really can't see how dating one of them could present any kind of conflict of interest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: phLOx on 26 Sep 2014, 06:15
I'm afraid we are being set up for disappointment this time round. There will be some interference and then another few months before it comes back to this. I'm hoping that I am to be proven wrong!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 26 Sep 2014, 06:43
When Claire stopped just being an obsessive book nerd and started to really develop as a character, I had a soft spot for her, particularly after she came out as transgendered (and thank you all the Questionables here who opened my eyes to their world (and indeed sometimes to their own lives), for the good and the bad). You just wanted her to be happy (but not happy enough to actually kill her (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2129)).

Chances are good that one or the other (or both) will have anxiety meltdowns, but in this moment, I think Hannelore says it best (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1708).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 26 Sep 2014, 06:54
Claire's face in panel three of today's strip is really freaking great.  The emotion I'm getting out of it is just spot on.  And it's the main reason I'll be a bit upset if this goes south way too soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 26 Sep 2014, 06:55
Wowser! Almost 5 pages since yesterday and its growing like Kudzu.

On the question regarding how long since rejoining joining the forums and since first reading the strip - 3 years last week and 2004? Thsts not right. {pulls out old HDD and checks archive} Yikes!!! {Krazy Larry} Looks like I have been an on again off again reader for a very long time.  :roll:

On today's strip - Dayum they are cute.

Eh, the intern thing. I think he's been using that as an excuse to disguise the fact that he's just plain weirded out by Emily.

Lest ye forget Claire has said the exact same thing about dating coworkers. They are both are people who stick with their principles so I can see a strong and very close friendship developing here with the couple thing being put off till one graduates or the other gets a career job.  I'm still hoping that he [or at least Tai in his stead] is checking the schools job postings at leas semi regularly. That is how I got my night school teaching position.

As for Gabby? It's the obscurity.

Warning - while you were typing 5 10 16  a whole lot of new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post yet again ... again ... again ... again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Honkytonk on 26 Sep 2014, 06:59
Long time lurker, I'm one of those who have finally decided to join now all this squee is happening. I for one am delighted with it and happy that it feels like a natural character development, and would really like to show my huge appreciation to Mr Jacques for that. I really hope it's 'real' and not a dream sequence or whatever, because, as others have said, it's precisely the right shove Marten needs.

If memory serves Marten found two of the senior members of SMIF in a rather 'ahem' loving embrace in the library, so I really don't think the arguments about dating interns hold up too well in that place - but it may well be that he sees it as a real opportunity to get out of the library (which he is beginning to despair at I feel), and get some forward momentum in his life.

I'd also like to echo other people's comments about how well-developed a character Claire has become, and how helpful people on here have been with regards to explaining their world as a transgendered person. The whole concept is not something I've come across too much in my life and it's great that I now understand it a bit better than I used to. Mad props.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Origamigryphon on 26 Sep 2014, 07:08
Plot twist: Marten pukes in Claire's lap.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: phLOx on 26 Sep 2014, 07:12
Plot twist: Marten pukes in Claire's lap.

Not so far fetched, it won't be the first time!
More important question: Is Penelope actually Pizza Girl?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 07:17
I've been reading since ~either 2013 or 2012.  I joined the forums a few months ago.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: vforvancouver on 26 Sep 2014, 07:22
Jeph Jacques, you magnificent bastard.

Now I want to date someone as cute as Claire. I was so happy being a single guy, dammit...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katharsys on 26 Sep 2014, 07:31
Coming out of long standing hiding just to go squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

My eyes are even leaking just a little bit.

I have been wanting to see today's page since Claire was first introduced.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 26 Sep 2014, 07:49
Hmph.  Only 5 4 1/2 pages since skritch turned snuggle?  What's wrong with you people? 

 :evil: :angel: :police: :claireface:

Happily waiting for either an explosion or an implosion. 


Back to the bunker!  I brought some cheap Oktoberfest from the store...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: phLOx on 26 Sep 2014, 07:51
Coming out of long standing hiding just to go squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

My eyes are even leaking just a little bit.

I have been wanting to see today's page since Claire was first introduced.

Exact same situation or me! Been waiting for this and gonna be squeeing until the next one. Then our dreams may or may not be shattered...  :cry:
Next on the list...Clinton and Hanners....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 26 Sep 2014, 07:54
Only if he autoclaves his hand first...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 26 Sep 2014, 07:55
Hmph.  Only 5 4 1/2 pages since skritch turned snuggle?  What's wrong with you people? 

 :evil: :angel: :police: :claireface:

Happily waiting for either an explosion or an implosion. 


Back to the bunker!  I brought some cheap Oktoberfest from the store...

From what I've learnt the Oktoberfest is quite expensive. And I didn't know one could buy pieces of it.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 26 Sep 2014, 07:56
Only if he autoclaves his hand first...

Which one?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 26 Sep 2014, 08:09
Hmph.  Only 5 4 1/2 pages since skritch turned snuggle?  What's wrong with you people? 

 :evil: :angel: :police: :claireface:

Happily waiting for either an explosion or an implosion. 


Back to the bunker!  I brought some cheap Oktoberfest from the store...

From what I've learnt the Oktoberfest is quite expensive. And I didn't know one could buy pieces of it.  :mrgreen:

Sorry, Oktoberfest beer.  After all, I'm working at a beer distributor.  And though the good ones are pricey, there are some cheap ones. 

Yuengling Oktoberfest, $25 / case.  That's about a buck a beer.  We sold out yesterday.   :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thedrd0nna on 26 Sep 2014, 08:15
Long time lurker-but today's comic-and the ensuing discussion-inspired me to actually comment. First, to get it out of the way:
SQUEEEEEEE

Ahem, okay.
The other thing: Marten is drunk, but he doesn't appear to be "accidentally eat an armadillo" drunk. I mean, he still seems reasonably in control of his faculties, and aware of what's going on around him. With that said, if a girl is nuzzling your neck and saying "don't ever stop", you would have to be Tequila Monster drunk, or worse, not to get that message.

I refuse to believe this will result in anything less than seventy years of marriage, followed by peacefully passing away within an hour of each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 26 Sep 2014, 08:15
But only beer from Munich is allowed to be called Oktoberfestbier. It is actually a registered trademark, and at least in the EU a Protected Geographical Indication. And at the Oktoberfest the beer costs around 10€ per Maß (litre).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jon.nichols on 26 Sep 2014, 08:20
This comic is so damn cute.  I can't wait to see what happens as I've been rooting for Marten/Claire since she started following him around like a little lost puppy dog.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tormuse on 26 Sep 2014, 08:21
Unlurked! I am unlurked!

Achievement unlurked!  :)

In other news, I may emit a squee...  :D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Welu on 26 Sep 2014, 08:22
All I have to say about the recent comments is SQUEEEEEEE.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HES on 26 Sep 2014, 08:29
But only beer from Munich is allowed to be called Oktoberfestbier. It is actually a registered trademark, and at least in the EU a Protected Geographical Indication. And at the Oktoberfest the beer costs around 10€ per Maß (litre).
I found myself at Stuttgarter frühlingsfest this year, which is like Oktoberfest but in April. 10€ a litre there too... t'was a good night.

Warning - while you were typing 3 new sqees have been squeed. You may wish to unlurk some more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 26 Sep 2014, 08:38
[...]

as for two...
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2768

They look like the same walls to me?

I forgot that they moved after Ellen commented on how blue their walls were.


Plot twist: Marten pukes in Claire's lap.

Not so far fetched, it won't be the first time!

The only time I can remember is when Faye vomitted into Marten's lap.  I can't think of a time when Marten did something like that.


Quote
More important question: Is Penelope actually Pizza Girl?!

Didn't PG deliver pizza to Penelope?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Sep 2014, 08:50
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1146

Faye got lapbarfed after Marten got food poisoning.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Sep 2014, 08:51
All the lurkers and other assorted quiet people and newbies makes me happy! We have fresh boots! Oi! Go police call the parking lot! (This obscure cultural joke will make sense to MAYBE three people on the entire forum. Maybe.)

I would like to point out about the comments from Snorggie that platonic touch is kinda uncommon in the United States in general, especially between members of the opposite genders who are heterosexual (as I've gotten more involved in the LGBTQ community I've noticed there's usually a bit more flex there, but not much) buuuuuuuuut as someone who has participated in platonic touch with female friends of all description, I have NEVER had someone with a platonic interest into me tuck and nuzzle into my neck and under my chin like Claire is in panel 4, that is, in, my in my experience verbal shorthand for "<3~"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 26 Sep 2014, 08:54
But only beer from Munich is allowed to be called Oktoberfestbier. It is actually a registered trademark, and at least in the EU a Protected Geographical Indication. And at the Oktoberfest the beer costs around 10€ per Maß (litre).
Only a Litre? Looking at my Beer stein shelf at the section with the glass bierkrugs arrayed thereon I have a 300ml, 500ml, 1litre and a 2 litre Monster that was originally filled with Spatenbräu that my cousin bought for me at Oktoberfest a "few" years ago.

Warning - while you were reading another brewery was bought up by Anheuser-Busch. You may want to cry over your beer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Sep 2014, 08:57
By the way, we've got a beer thread over here: http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28745.0.html
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: efrumttr on 26 Sep 2014, 09:03
The more I look at the comic, the more I think that Marten's face in panel 3 has a definite look of uncertainty--like he's not sure if Claire's 'what are you even doing to me?' might be a negative question (i.e. we need to slow down) rather than a positive one (i.e. this feels so freaking amazing). Then in panel 4 I definitely see relief on his face once those doubts are clarified and resolved with Claire's adorable nuzzling.

Thus:

Quote
I refuse to believe this will result in anything less than seventy years of marriage, followed by peacefully passing away within an hour of each other.

 :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ElvisRevenge on 26 Sep 2014, 09:30
hmmm, I bet Marten and Claire will start dating, then, once Marten is taken, Faye and Angus will break up. Thus preserving the "never the twain shall meet" path that the universe has for Marten and Faye. This pattern will continue for the rest of their lives. While one is with a partner the other will be single.

Damn those twain!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 09:33
Long time lurker-but today's comic-and the ensuing discussion-inspired me to actually comment. First, to get it out of the way:
SQUEEEEEEE

Ahem, okay.
The other thing: Marten is drunk, but he doesn't appear to be "accidentally eat an armadillo" drunk. I mean, he still seems reasonably in control of his faculties, and aware of what's going on around him. With that said, if a girl is nuzzling your neck and saying "don't ever stop", you would have to be Tequila Monster drunk, or worse, not to get that message.

I refuse to believe this will result in anything less than seventy years of marriage, followed by peacefully passing away within an hour of each other.
Hey, armadillo is delicious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Madmartigan on 26 Sep 2014, 09:47
I initially squeed but, after reading the comments here, I have come to the conclusion that those suggesting it's a dream are partially right -- I think it is a dream but it's only the last two strips that are the dream.  I suspect that, when she said, "Mistakes were made," she realised going back to Marten's was not something she wanted to do that night.  She's either going to wake up in her own bed and wonder how much of the night was real or she's having this day dream in front of them and she's going to be brought back to reality when Faye or Marten asks her what she meant by "Don't ever stop."

There are two reasons why I think it's a dream:
  • It's out of character for Marten.
  • The colour of the walls is wrong.

Huh. Seriously? Wall coloring wrong?  Check I must.

It is out of character for Marten, even if he's comfortable around Claire.  Dude isn't that smooth or forward in anything.  And after his reactions to Emily....I dunno.  Hell, he seemed massively down when he realized Emily's "everyone got this" letter wasn't just for him.  Then he mulled over a "kiss" forever. 

Everything about this just screams friendship.  And I like it that way actually.  Everyone has a BFF.  Not sure Steve is much of a BFF.  Too much history with Dora for that.  There's Faye, but prior romantic history there as well.  Meh...

Bah, I'm just cranky because I want more Emily and I've been missing Pintsize.

------

As for drunken Marten being "intimate" here with Claire, I have my own theories.  The drunken socializer.  When sober, I absolutely HATE being touched.  Major pet-peeve.  Also decently introverted.  Get me drunk though, and I schmooze.  And not just that, I get way super feely with people, even strangers, more so with friends.  I basically become the hugging panda bear.  Embarrassing really, but true.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 26 Sep 2014, 09:53
Claire's face in panel three of today's strip is really freaking great.  The emotion I'm getting out of it is just spot on.

She is experiencing a revelation. This is something she never knew existed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HES on 26 Sep 2014, 10:05
Only a Litre? Looking at my Beer stein shelf at the section with the glass bierkrugs arrayed thereon I have a 300ml, 500ml, 1litre and a 2 litre Monster
Per Litre. Doesn't mean you're limited to that.

Quote
More important question: Is Penelope actually Pizza Girl?!

Didn't PG deliver pizza to Penelope?
So she claimed.

ETA link (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1932) relevant to tinytext
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: VeraLapsa on 26 Sep 2014, 10:06
Please don't be a dream! Please don't be a dream! I totally want this ship to sail. squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thedrd0nna on 26 Sep 2014, 10:09
Long time lurker-but today's comic-and the ensuing discussion-inspired me to actually comment. First, to get it out of the way:
SQUEEEEEEE

Ahem, okay.
The other thing: Marten is drunk, but he doesn't appear to be "accidentally eat an armadillo" drunk. I mean, he still seems reasonably in control of his faculties, and aware of what's going on around him. With that said, if a girl is nuzzling your neck and saying "don't ever stop", you would have to be Tequila Monster drunk, or worse, not to get that message.

I refuse to believe this will result in anything less than seventy years of marriage, followed by peacefully passing away within an hour of each other.
Hey, armadillo is delicious.
I'm not saying it isn't, but it would still be an intense evening if you *accidentally* ate one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 26 Sep 2014, 10:13
Long time lurker-but today's comic-and the ensuing discussion-inspired me to actually comment. First, to get it out of the way:
SQUEEEEEEE

Ahem, okay.
The other thing: Marten is drunk, but he doesn't appear to be "accidentally eat an armadillo" drunk. I mean, he still seems reasonably in control of his faculties, and aware of what's going on around him. With that said, if a girl is nuzzling your neck and saying "don't ever stop", you would have to be Tequila Monster drunk, or worse, not to get that message.

I refuse to believe this will result in anything less than seventy years of marriage, followed by peacefully passing away within an hour of each other.
Hey, armadillo is delicious.
I'm not saying it isn't, but it would still be an intense evening if you *accidentally* ate one.
Especially if you somehow forgot to incapacitate it first; them suckers are mean.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 26 Sep 2014, 10:25
when Faye or Marten asks her what she meant by "Don't ever stop."

"Oh, Doctor Jones..." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=723)

I wonder if drunk Marten somehow realizes he's cheating on Emily in some way, or that he's now getting involved with 2 girls yet again.
I get that he's drunk so it maybe doesn't have to make sense, but what? He has been pretty firm about how he'll reject Emily, especially when he talked to Faye. I don't think he's too interested (and I don't think she'll be hurt. I mean, more mice for her!).

Also, someone else linked this, (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2768) and I'm not sure why anymore (I opened them all to the side and forgot about it), but it's also? another reference for very light blue walls (and they are still blue in the latest). Also yesterday, but the other details (Faye, doorframe, lamp) detract from the overwhelming brightness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Sep 2014, 10:34
Welcome, latest new people!

Some things you should know in advance: first, QC is a comic about people doing stupid things. Claire is smarter than the average character but remember that if she does something stupid it won't be an attack on trans people in general.

The other thing, closely related, is that Jeph has done a widely praised good job at making Claire an individual, and not The Trans Character. Anything she says or does is just her and not a Message.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Hybris on 26 Sep 2014, 10:36
I guess I don't see the how the whole Clare\Marten is such a popular idea, though that might be because I see Clare as a poorly built character more for Sesame Street shock value with her being trans (Yes I am aware of the admins post about this but this is still my opinion on the character) then as a serious long time 2 second line character like Raven or PenPen. Now is she as bad in all respects as Emily is? No not close.

I'm putting money on this being a dream and Clare waking up nuzzling Pintsize who out of habit is being half way decent for reasons unknown.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 26 Sep 2014, 10:37
First time posting as well, well, second,  and yeah yesterday's comic and today's made me super happy. I think I started reading a good while ago, back when Marigold kissed Angus and started lurking around here when Claire opened up to Marin. I sent Jeff a good email of support for that for making her a character first before revealing that part of her backstory.

Very much hoping this isn't a dream, I mean whatever happens happens as long as tese two comics are real.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 26 Sep 2014, 10:47
Hybris, you registered a _long_ time ago... way before me... which makes me dis-inclined to blow you off the way I usually would blow off someone who says "well that's just my opinion" and doesn't back it up.

If you've been reading this comic since you registered in 2005, you have seen lots and lots of characters built and rolled out over the years.

I'm curious what is it about this character that you consider "poorly-built" as contrasted to another character that has received similar amounts of screen time that you consider "well-built".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2014, 10:49
Marin  [...]  Jeff

I'm guessing you are referring to the character called Marten in a comic drawn by someone called Jeph.

Since you must have read the correct forms to know the names, it shouldn't be hard to reproduce them correctly.  Yes, we care about spelling people's names right here, as a matter of politeness and respect.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smallest on 26 Sep 2014, 10:54
I guess I don't see the how the whole Clare\Marten is such a popular idea, though that might be because I see Clare as a poorly built character more for Sesame Street shock value with her being trans (Yes I am aware of the admins post about this but this is still my opinion on the character) then as a serious long time 2 second line character like Raven or PenPen. Now is she as bad in all respects as Emily is? No not close.

I'm confused as to how her being trans was played for shock value? I mean, it had a dramatic reveal, but not very, and it was the first time she told one of the main cast (or the audience), so the nervous going out of her way to tell him was understandable. Marten and Clinton didn't make in-comic drama about it directly following that either, which helped to mute the idea of it just being a token character for kicks or a (transphobic) laugh.

Lots of people here hate characters (you're not the only one annoyed by Emily, and then there's the against Marigold/Faye/etc? crowds), but I don't follow your reasoning behind it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 10:58
I guess I don't see the how the whole Clare\Marten is such a popular idea, though that might be because I see Clare as a poorly built character more for Sesame Street shock value with her being trans (Yes I am aware of the admins post about this but this is still my opinion on the character) then as a serious long time 2 second line character like Raven or PenPen. Now is she as bad in all respects as Emily is? No not close.

I'm putting money on this being a dream and Clare waking up nuzzling Pintsize who out of habit is being half way decent for reasons unknown.

I mean I won't say that Claire is a shock value trans girl because she's clearly not, but I can see how someone might be a bit skeptical of Jeph at first since the way he introduced Gabby, Claire and Emily seemed a bit...off and the way he's done nothing with Gabby as well.

I can see why people like Marten/Clare, it's a cute couple, people like clare and the details speak to them personally. My only issue is that people are making HUGE assumptions about Marten that might blow up in everyones face. Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople or even if he does want to date transpeople, date Clare in particular.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thedrd0nna on 26 Sep 2014, 11:01
That's an interesting juxtaposition to see Is It Cold In Here?'s post right before Hybris.

Hybris, I have found Claire to be a complex character, and extraordinarily well written. I'm not used to seeing trans people portrayed as people first, with the trans part being a facet rather than the sole component of their personality. That's not something the media generally does, and it's absolutely delightful to see it here. Here's the only other thing I will say in response to you:

Trans people are not here to shock you. If you have a problem with us being portrayed (sympathetically) in the media, then it's exactly that:your problem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Sep 2014, 11:04
I guess I don't see the how the whole Clare\Marten is such a popular idea, though that might be because I see Clare as a poorly built character more for Sesame Street shock value with her being trans (Yes I am aware of the admins post about this but this is still my opinion on the character) then as a serious long time 2 second line character like Raven or PenPen. Now is she as bad in all respects as Emily is? No not close.

I'm putting money on this being a dream and Clare waking up nuzzling Pintsize who out of habit is being half way decent for reasons unknown.
Well. Off to the bomb shelter. 'Cause this post is radioactive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Honkytonk on 26 Sep 2014, 11:04
Welcome, latest new people!

Some things you should know in advance: first, QC is a comic about people doing stupid things. Claire is smarter than the average character but remember that if she does something stupid it won't be an attack on trans people in general.

The other thing, closely related, is that Jeph has done a widely praised good job at making Claire an individual, and not The Trans Character. Anything she says or does is just her and not a Message.

Whether it was aimed at me or not, I might be guilty of implying this in my first post and would just like to say I understand both of those points - I oft forget of Claire as trans until I remind myself, and that, I think, is kind of the point? (apologies if not) She is a good, rounded character with her own foibles and issues, and far from just 'the trans one'. I have huge respect for Jeph in this.

For anyone (like me) who wants to go back and find the Wedding arc it starts roundabout here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2377).

Really looking forward to being part of the forum, and please, pick me up on anything if I make a tit out of myself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2014, 11:05
Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople or even if he does want to date transpeople, date Clare in particular.

But most people are responding to what's actually shown in the comic rather than any baseless assumptions about the characters' motivations.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 26 Sep 2014, 11:10
Who is this Clare anyway?

 Is she friends and co-workers with Marin in that comic Quest Content by Jeff Jacks?

I want to mention that I was having a stressful day at work and when Marten started scratching Claire's hair. It cheered me up so much that work suddenly became way easier.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 11:11
Marten hasn't shown anything either way. He's playing around with her like she's a cat or a little sister. The point is that people are setting themselves for a possible heart break.

Also Claire is definitely not a shock value character, but I sometimes wonder if she was always meant to be well written. Was it a chicken or the egg situation? Did she get better writing because of how popular she is compared to Gabby and Emily or did she become popular because she got better writing then Gabby and Emily. Gabby placement in the story makes me skeptical it's the latter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 11:30
Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople

That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.

We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 26 Sep 2014, 11:35
Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople

That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.

We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.

Telling you why you're wrong would require me to speculate about Claire's parts, which we've been told not to do. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thedrd0nna on 26 Sep 2014, 11:38
Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople

That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.

We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.

Telling you why you're wrong would require me to speculate about Claire's parts, which we've been told not to do.

This would appear to be making an assumption about which parts a trans person has. Pretty much by definition, trans people can have any combination of expected parts. If you're making broad assumptions about what someone is packing, based on them being trans-well, you're gonna be wrong, pretty frequently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 11:43
Telling you why you're wrong would require me to speculate about Claire's parts, which we've been told not to do.

See:
That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.

We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.

That is such nonsense regardless, though, and probably more indicative of you still thinking of us as men in some capacity as though it had anything to do with it (See: practically every guy's voiced insecurities about such things ever). Most people tend to be able to figure out if they're into someone -without- inspecting their genitalia, as it happens.

Especially considering the absurd porn-fueled misconceptions of how most trans girls actually tend to feel about it or involving it. Hint: Sex between trans girls ain't like in the movies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Sep 2014, 11:44
I oft forget of Claire as trans until I remind myself, and that, I think, is kind of the point? (apologies if not)

That is EXACTLY the point.  And welcome to the forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 11:48
Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople

That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.

We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.

Telling you why you're wrong would require me to speculate about Claire's parts, which we've been told not to do.

Pretty much this and even if we could we have no idea how transitioning is different in the QC universe compared to our own their science is far more advanced which could have implications as well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 26 Sep 2014, 12:00
There is some stuff I want to say about this but I really think we need to move away from any sort of parts discussion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: dunnright on 26 Sep 2014, 12:04
There is some stuff I want to say about this but I really think we need to move away from any sort of parts discussion.

Ditto. Actually started to reply to a comment and then decided to just say... Good Comic!  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: brew on 26 Sep 2014, 12:04
I really feel like everyone (both in the forums and in the comic) is blowing the ethical dilemma WAY out of proportion.  There is definitely a standard of conduct between coworkers in the workplace, and this might be an issue between two people in a large corporation, if it were a supervisor/subordinate relationship that existed fairly high up the food chain.

I don't think it should be much of a real issue, but I find Marten's behavior, if it's not just a platonic misunderstanding, really out-of-character, considering how recent the whole Emily thing was. He wouldn't explicitly bring up the intern problem so many times and then just suddenly ignore it.

I also just hate the only East Asian character being treated like a joke.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 12:06
There is some stuff I want to say about this but I really think we need to move away from any sort of parts discussion.

Also this. Though paper-thin euphemisms for the same sort of discussion isn't really moving away from it, people.

"But of course it's totally legit and non-transphobic to find you people, as a class, unattractive because ~reasons~" isn't exactly hard to figure out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 26 Sep 2014, 12:07
Avoiding the prohibited topic, there's a difference between not wanting to date someone and actually being phobic.  Is Sven a brunette-a-phobe because he prefers blondes?  Was Faye a non-skinny-indie-rock-boy-a-phobe?  Not being into someone because of a sexual hangup is a reasonable thing.  For example, Tai's initial (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1778) problem (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1779) with getting with Dora was totally reasonable.   The question is whether Marten will have the same kind of hangup. 
EDIT: Thought about it more.  I don't think he would.  He seems too chill to have hangups about anything.

By the reasoning of several people here, every straight person is a homophobe because they don't want a gay/lesbian partner of their own gender. 

On the subject of the ethical thing, I think Marten could ignore it if he wanted to.  And I kinda think he wants to. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 26 Sep 2014, 12:10
Pretty much this and even if we could we have no idea how transitioning is different in the QC universe compared to our own their science is far more advanced which could have implications as well.

Yeah, and thinking about it it would be pretty cool - the QC-Universe not only is scientifically advanced, the society seems to be more open and inclusive, too. While AI do not have equal rights, they are fighting for them (and are supported), gay weddings are a normal thing (there was absolutely NO drama concerning Marten's two dads) and while Claire is hesitant about sharing that she's trans, there was no mention of any legal problems/drama (which are a major source of stress and money disappearing for the trans people I know)

(While you were typing a BAZILLION people posted DARN)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 12:16
That sure is a lot of bullshit right there, Orkboy.

The fact that your emphasized "counter-argument" example is "Are you calling straight men homophobic for not wanting a gay relationship, then!?" is really telling.

And no, a specific aesthetic preference is not at all the same damn thing as "I don't date asian people because the thought of being with them disturbs me". That is friggin' blatantly obvious. I doubt you could find someone who genuinely was disgusted at the thought of being with a brown-haired girl, without some underlying triggers, to explain their preference for blondes. Where as we actually do have uncountable examples of the media showing people perfectly happy to be intimate with trans women, have no issues with their bodies, and then afterwards LITERALLY PROJECTILE VOMITING DUE TO THE MERE THOUGHT OF HAVING BEEN WITH ONE OF THESE CREATURES.

So don't tell me it's the same fucking thing.

Edit: And don't talk to me as though repulsion is the same as a "sexual hangup", either. I know about having sex-repulsion issues a-plenty. Being repulsed by a minority class is not a "reasonable thing", but sex-repulsion -doesn't have to be reasonable-. It can be really random things, a variety triggers, or like in this case from a systematic societal monstering. No one is entitled to any intimacy ever. But that doesn't mean it's not transphobic and cissexist.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Roxtar on 26 Sep 2014, 12:17
Just because Marten isn't transphobic doesn't mean he wants to date transpeople

That -is- transphobic, though. To have internalized disgust of the mere thought of us in the abstract. If I said "The thought of being in a relationship with an asian person disturbs me and I don't think I could date someone like that" then that is unquestionably racist. People completely have the right to not have relationships or whatever with any person for any reason (or lack thereof), but that doesn't change the facts of the underlying bias and othering involved. A statement like "not wanting to date trans people (and more specifically trans -women-)" inevitably rests on a basis of transphobia and cissexism because of where the thoughts behind it originate.

We know Marten likes girls. Trans girls are -girls-, ergo he likes trans girls. There also isn't some universal defining characteristic in common to all trans girls outside of actually being girls. Not that that's the reason for the repulsed response in the first place. It's mostly just the widespread transmisogyny in our culture, which paints us as disgusting abstract objects rather than actual people, seeping through.

I disagree... it depends on motivations and reasons for dating.
I am a straight male who was born and identifies as a male.
I want to eventually father children (both biologically and in the parental sense).
because of that, I date women with the idea of possibly starting a family in the future.
As trans women cannot bear children, that would be a legitimate reason to exclude trans women from my dating pool without considering them "repulsive".

refusing to date people of $orientation is not $orientation-phobic if that orientation is in conflict with your own dating/relationship goals.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 12:19
I posted about this earlier, but deleted the post because I felt it would provide a launch pad to offensive commentary...
But I am going to summarize what I said earlier with this:

Dating a trans person is not different from dating any other person. If you have affection for and are attracted to a person, you are attracted and affectionate and other details become minor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 26 Sep 2014, 12:19
That sure is a lot of bullshit right there, Orkboy.

The fact that your emphasized "counter-argument" example is "Are you calling straight men homophobic for not wanting a gay relationship, then!?" is really telling.

And no, a specific aesthetic preference is not at all the same damn thing as "I don't date asian people because the thought of being with them disturbs me". That is friggin' blatantly obvious. I doubt you could find someone who genuinely was disgusted at the thought of being with a brown-haired girl, without some underlying triggers, to explain their preference for blondes. Where as we actually do have uncountable examples of the media showing people perfectly happy to be intimate with trans women, have no issues with their bodies, and then afterwards LITERALLY PROJECTILE VOMITING DUE TO THE MERE THOUGH OF HAVING BEEN WITH ONE OF THESE CREATURES.

So don't tell me it's the same fucking thing.

I'm sorry, I thought we were discussing Marten and Claire, not the media portrayal of trans relationships.  If you want the latter, there's a whole thread for it in the Discuss board.

EDIT: Also, I think it's the general consensus that the media is wrong about everything else trans related.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 26 Sep 2014, 12:22
Actually, I read about the possibility of uterus transplants a few months ago. Sweden is apparently doing them successfully. I might imagine since the QC universe has more advanced technology than our own, the whole "what if marten wants kids?!" things might not particularly be an issue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 12:30
I'm sorry, I thought we were discussing Marten and Claire, not the media portrayal of trans relationships.

Marten and Claire is a media portrayal of a (potential) relationship with a trans girl.

You're the one deciding to utterly ignore all context and make ridiculous comparisons to liking hair-colours, as if that societal bias doesn't exist. It is not some innocent 'preference' arrived at in a vacuum. It is arrived at through normalized transmisogyny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 12:30
Aaaaand I'm going to go to the fallout bunker before this thread goes nuclear.

Or perhaps we can all be grown ups and move along.

Although I do realise saying that on the internet is about as futile as trying to stop a tidal wave with a piece of wet tissue paper.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 26 Sep 2014, 12:37
There goes the fifteen page dream
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 12:39
I am a straight male who was born and identifies as a male.

Separating 'being X' from 'identifying as X' is cissexist, fyi. I'm not a "male identifying as female"; I am female.

I disagree... it depends on motivations and reasons for dating.
I want to eventually father children (both biologically and in the parental sense).
because of that, I date women with the idea of possibly starting a family in the future.

That is not excluding someone due to their transness. That is excluding all people incapable of getting pregnant (though not necessarily of reproducing*). Specifying "I don't date trans women" indicates otherwise as you don't demand fertility information from cis women.

*Wouldn't that be more of an issue as to whether or not SHE wants biological kids? Could simply raise yours-by-donated-cells, otherwise.

refusing to date people of $orientation is not $orientation-phobic

"Orientation"

Oh, and actually it is in many cases even then. Lots of people refuse to date bisexual/pansexual people for very, very biphobic underlying reasons to do with their concepts of those groups.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 26 Sep 2014, 12:59
There is some stuff I want to say about this but I really think we need to move away from any sort of parts discussion.

Also this. Though paper-thin euphemisms for the same sort of discussion isn't really moving away from it, people.

"But of course it's totally legit and non-transphobic to find you people, as a class, unattractive because ~reasons~" isn't exactly hard to figure out.

Making controversial claims in a forum where the effective counterargument is forbidden is a poor form of debate. If you do not want people to refer to this, even obliquely, you should not make a statement like "dating a trans woman is like dating any other woman." That kind of statement will bring out counterarguments, and these arguments will concern that which is off limits here. You are responsible for this when you make such a claim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 13:04
Counter-point: Fuck entirely off with your transmisogyny.

I will, in fact, state that we are every bit as much women as anyone else and that is not up for "debate". I am not looking to "debate" my right to exist with you; I am telling you what is cissexist and what has underlying transmisogyny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 26 Sep 2014, 13:08
Counter-point: Fuck entirely off with your transmisogyny.

I will, in fact, state that we are every bit as much women as anyone else and that is not up for "debate". I am not looking to "debate" my right to exist with you, I am telling you what is cissexist and what has underlying transmisogyny.

Your right to exist is not being questioned. Of course you have a right to exist. Nobody has challenged that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 13:10
Actually, I read about the possibility of uterus transplants a few months ago. Sweden is apparently doing them successfully. I might imagine since the QC universe has more advanced technology than our own, the whole "what if marten wants kids?!" things might not particularly be an issue.

Thats why I said it's hard to discuss this without knowing the level of technology in the QC universe. While in the real world transwomen and ciswomen are both every bit a woman as the other, there are at the moment logistic differences that might turn people off from a relationship whether it be children issues, actual sex issues among other things. In the QC universe these problems might not exist due to the level of advance technology there might literally be no superficial differences between a ciswoman body and a transwoman body after transition. Though until we're told otherwise my initial reaction is to assume most things are like our universe, for example Clares brother has a more advanced version of a robot hand that are starting exist in our world vs a cloned, grafted on hand that might happen with the level of technology we're discussing might be possible.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 13:12
Your right to exist is not being questioned. Of course you have a right to exist. Nobody has challenged that.

My being a woman is a non-negotiable fact of my existence which can not be haggled piecemeal away. Don't take for granted that such a debate is real and legitimate, rather than just a Domination Technique by people in an oppressor-class.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kryptoknight on 26 Sep 2014, 13:15
Welcome, latest new people!

Some things you should know in advance: first, QC is a comic about people doing stupid things. Claire is smarter than the average character but remember that if she does something stupid it won't be an attack on trans people in general.

The other thing, closely related, is that Jeph has done a widely praised good job at making Claire an individual, and not The Trans Character. Anything she says or does is just her and not a Message.

Whether it was aimed at me or not, I might be guilty of implying this in my first post and would just like to say I understand both of those points - I oft forget of Claire as trans until I remind myself, and that, I think, is kind of the point? (apologies if not) She is a good, rounded character with her own foibles and issues, and far from just 'the trans one'. I have huge respect for Jeph in this.

For anyone (like me) who wants to go back and find the Wedding arc it starts roundabout here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2377).

Really looking forward to being part of the forum, and please, pick me up on anything if I make a tit out of myself.

I forget about it all the time too.  She's very well written and everyone around her accepts her for for how she acts/portrays herself.  It's easy to forget she's a trans character because that isn't really her defining feature and I love that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: War Sparrow on 26 Sep 2014, 13:18
Quote from: Honkytonk
I oft forget of Claire as trans until I remind myself.

I hear ya. I only remember when I come to the forums and someone brings it up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 26 Sep 2014, 13:21
(remember, in the past, REAL haters KILLED people, not just stated opinions on the internet)

If only that was a thing of the past.


Global Moderator Comment N.B. The post that contained the quote has been removed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 13:23
Your right to exist is not being questioned. Of course you have a right to exist. Nobody has challenged that.

My being a woman is a non-negotiable fact of my existence which can not be haggled piecemeal away. Don't take for granted that such a debate is real and legitimate, rather than just a Domination Technique by people in an oppressor-class.

No one has said you're not a woman, no one has implied trans-women aren't real women, people have gone out of their way to express that trans-women are real women just that they have some biological differences that while superficial and not a decider on their gender do exist and might factor in someones willingness to date them just like how other superficial aspects exist factor into people's decisions.

I'm not gonna touch whether Clare has to be a representation of trans-struggle to be a legitimate character with a ten foot pole. The only thing I will say is that if felt like Jeph was pandering when he created the interns but that he decided to give Clare at least a real personality (still kind of annoyed by Gabby and Emily who I do feel exist still as pandering)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 26 Sep 2014, 13:26
Being transexual has nothing to do with her character, AND THAT's what i dont like.

I would argue that that's EXACTLY how it should be - being trans is just one small aspect of who she (and other transgendered people) is as a person. If you don't like the rest of who she is, so be it, but that's pretty much a separate issue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 26 Sep 2014, 13:26
Ok, This is my very first and last post around here.  ¿Why did I made a account for that? Mostly just to express myself.

Look, by this point I don't even care if Marteen fucks claire. I may find the idea of ME having sex with a trasgender disgusting (Call me trasphobic all you want, I don't care) but if someone wants to do it, its their business I will not ever critique someone for their fetishes. to each their own.

Okay, wanting to have sex with someone who happens to be trans is not a 'fetish'. And finding having sex with a transgender disgusting IS transphobic, sorry to tell you. If one singular part of a person turns you off completely then there is definitely some bias at hand.

As for the rest of what you said I'm not sure how Claire's character is 'sneaky'. Does having a trans person in a comic have to equate to some sort of social commentary? Why can't she be a person that happens to be trans? Why does some sort of 'message' have to be implied by her existence?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 13:27
Aaaand now the thread has gotten to the point where it was an interesting and amusing discussion to whaling on a dead horse.
Bravo. :facepalm:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 13:37
Being transexual has nothing to do with her character, AND THAT's what i dont like.

I would argue that that's EXACTLY how it should be - being trans is just one small aspect of who she (and other transgendered people) is as a person. If you don't like the rest of who she is, so be it, but that's pretty much a separate issue.

I agree for the most part the only part I find weird is how she outright outs herself. Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity. It'd be like if instead of Tai talking about girlfriends and hooking up with girls in an organic sense she'd be like "Yeah I like girls" but then never date girls, express interest in girls. Like I felt like a more organic way of showing Clare was trans without making it about trans-issues could've been done like offhand comments about transition or side conversations.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Valdís on 26 Sep 2014, 13:42
I agree for the most part the only part I find weird is how she outright outs herself. Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity. It'd be like if instead of Tai talking about girlfriends and hooking up with girls in an organic sense she'd be like "Yeah I like girls" but then never date girls, express interest in girls. Like I felt like a more organic way of showing Clare was trans without making it about trans-issues could've been done like offhand comments about transition or side conversations.

It needs to be blatant because of the Null Hypothecis. Emphasis on the cis. Anyone not explicitly stated otherwise people will consider cis, due to cisnormativity. Just as how people presume characters in books are white for no reason, or project heterosexuality onto characters even when none is mentioned (and trying to argue characters with very, very blatant hints otherwise still aren't anything but hetero).

Oh, and yeah, don't presume avoiding transness is a goal for everyone. I wear a pendant by our very own CaspianSeaMonster (http://images3.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/625x465_1280789_1438492_1389435987.jpg), for instance. For many of us it's important to not give into societal pressures to have it as a shameful secret. Y'know.. Pride. Not going around discussing medical stuff with random people, which is generally an uncomfortable demand from cis people rather than something I bring up myself, but, like, discussing stuff with friends who Get It.

But Claire probably doesn't/didn't really have anyone like that on the main cast of the comic, so she's mostly avoiding it as a topic, but not wanting to hide it from her closest friends. In that sense just an outright statement without random convos makes sense.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 26 Sep 2014, 13:42
This is why I left social media entirely.  This thread started off in the usual fashion, hit a warm and fuzzy crescendo with a bit of the usual bickering about friends/more-than-friends and hopes for attachments to other characters (all of which is both entertaining and enjoyable conversation)....and then it all turned to ashes in my mouth with people screaming at each other, posting hyperbole and "facts", taking potshots (some deserved, some not), and has generally become the equivalent of someone shitting in the hot tub.

I may just be a lurker, but this reminds me of why I lurk instead of getting too attached.  I'm going back to just enjoying the comic every morning and avoiding the forums entirely.  May all of you who are intelligent and caring community members continue to do so, and may the rest be devoured by demon bandicoots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Toe on 26 Sep 2014, 13:43
Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity.

Well, look at it this way: Jeph has done FAR more with the token transgendered girl than he did with the token black girl. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 13:50
I agree for the most part the only part I find weird is how she outright outs herself. Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity. It'd be like if instead of Tai talking about girlfriends and hooking up with girls in an organic sense she'd be like "Yeah I like girls" but then never date girls, express interest in girls. Like I felt like a more organic way of showing Clare was trans without making it about trans-issues could've been done like offhand comments about transition or side conversations.

It needs to be blatant because of the Null Hypothecis. Emphasis on the cis. Anyone not explicitly stated otherwise people will consider cis, due to cisnormativity. Just as how people presume characters in books are white for no reason, or project heterosexuality onto characters even when none is mentioned (and trying to argue characters with very, very blatant hints otherwise still aren't anything but hetero).

Oh, and don't presume avoiding transness is a goal for everyone. I wear a pendant by our very own CaspianSeaMonster (http://images3.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/625x465_1280789_1438492_1389435987.jpg), for instance. For many of us it's important to not give into societal pressures to have it as a shameful secret. Y'know.. Pride.

It doesn't need to be blatant in a comic, that's one of the strong points of a comic. Literally someone has to do is during Clare's daily schedule panels put her getting hormone therapy or anything. Something that say to anyone with a brain "She's transperson but it doesn't define who she is" the way Jeph did it  screamed "Let me make a big deal that she's trans but don't expect anything out of it"

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Well, look at it this way: Jeph has done FAR more with the token transgendered girl than he did with the token black girl. :mrgreen:

Yeah I'm not amused by that shit to be honest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 26 Sep 2014, 13:54
Being transexual has nothing to do with her character, AND THAT's what i dont like.

I would argue that that's EXACTLY how it should be - being trans is just one small aspect of who she (and other transgendered people) is as a person. If you don't like the rest of who she is, so be it, but that's pretty much a separate issue.

I agree for the most part the only part I find weird is how she outright outs herself. Like it felt inorganic, like it was just an initial statement "Hey kids look we have diversity!" without doing anything with that diversity. It'd be like if instead of Tai talking about girlfriends and hooking up with girls in an organic sense she'd be like "Yeah I like girls" but then never date girls, express interest in girls. Like I felt like a more organic way of showing Clare was trans without making it about trans-issues could've been done like offhand comments about transition or side conversations.

Maybe it's just me, but I've never had a one-size-fits-all outing experience. When people have come out to me in one way or another, I don't think there's a little manual somewhere that they consulted first. Never having been on their side of the situation, I can only guess/empathize that it probably involved a bit of mental calculus as to how "safe" it'd be to come out to me, how I might react, what I might or might not tell other people, and a whole host of other stuff that I'm probably totally missing because, again, that's not my lived experience.

With that being said, for me (again, speaking from my own limited experience), something about Claire's coming out to Marten rang true to me. It wasn't played for shock value, or as an exploitative plot hook. To me, it read as someone deciding she trusted someone else enough to come out to him, and maybe fumbling with it a bit because hey, it's awkward sometimes, and you also never know how the other person's going to take it.

The point is, people come to that point in a way that feels right to them (or at least as close to right as they can get, depending on circumstances). The timing, the words, and all the rest aren't always what they'd planned or what you'd expect -- sometimes blunt, sometimes very circumspect; sometimes eloquent, others halting -- but that's just how life is sometimes. It's not always going to be in a way that fits some grand narrative arc or some dramatic reveal; life ain't always like the movies. Similarly, sometimes our fiction ends up being as untidy as life itself.

Hope this gets my point across, even if it's not as well put as I'd like.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 26 Sep 2014, 13:56
What I like also about the last two strips, aside from all the squee, is the second panel of Thursday's comic where Claire starts rubbing her head. It has a very 'ugh that band was killing me, oh shoot I forgot to buy milk, got to get that form in on time.' A million mundane thoughts in that head then suddenly 'hellooooooooooooooooo' in the third panel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 14:01
I think though, Marten has known about Claire from the beginning and such "soul searching" is something that comes along after feelings are had. Also Marten was raised in a family that is not part of societal gender and sexual norms, so it might not be that difficult for him to confront.

I think it's very wrong to say that Claire's tran-ness isn't a part of her character and a little after the wedding arc they go into her fears on this very thing, that cuddling and other intimacies with a boy will lead to freak outs.
People are people first, the other details are more nuanced.

In other words, if this story was exclusively Claire's it might focus more directly on certain issues, but because there is more of an outsider's perspective we're not privy to all of the internal issues that might be and they get revealed over time as story telling progresses. 
And every female character in QC has some issues that come apparent over time, be it Faye's trauma to Hannelore's struggle with mental illness...Claire is no different, she has her internal struggle.

I am not trying to be dismissive when  I say that having a romantic relationship with a transgendered person is no different from a romance with a cisgendered person. I have seen problems arise between partnerships where a person transitioned away from the gender that their partner is attracted to...but not as many problems when people have matched up post transition.

As for those that think it's disingenuous that Claire outted herself early on, from my own life experience my friends came out to me within weeks to a month of meeting them. I can't speak to their motivations about outing themselves, but it was pretty early on in the friendship when it happened.  so, for me anyway, Claire disclosing her status to Martin and Emily seemed pretty normal.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 14:09
I don't have a problem with how Clare outed herself but it feels disjointed by a narrative perspective. Stories have a flow and when you devote a certain amount of attention on an issue it can't be just put to the side at least story wise.

Also all the QC girls have issues except for Tai it seems, or is her being creepy her trait?

You're not allowed to get angry with people pre-emptively, you're entitled to your emotions of course but how you act on them before you even hear them out is entirely on you as an individual regardless of the topic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aimless on 26 Sep 2014, 14:09
To the extent that it should be done at all, I think that it is too  early to judge the way Jeph's decided to write Claire's character. It's very easy to get caught up in thoughts about how things should have been done, indeed would have been done had we been holding the pen, but this is one of those situations when it may be better to just see where the ride takes us rather than giving in to the urge to get trapped in a destructive and wholly unnecessary fight. I think we can all of us live with the way Jeph's writes claire, and I think most of us will eventually find that he'll do her character justice. Peace
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 14:13
Do these threads frequently devolve from "OMG KYOOT" or whatever to abstract flamewars over sexuality and gender and other real-life issues? :psyduck:
Anyways, I don't see why Claire's status as a trans character matters; she's pretty much an adorably shy book-nerd who wears her heart on her sleeve (I don't know if that's the right saying, I'm talking about how she doesn't have a pokerface like at all) and makes amazing puns, and being trans doesn't really matter to her character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aimless on 26 Sep 2014, 14:14
As for the rest, I strongly urge you to consider or reconsider  whether or it is appropriate or worthwhile to express what are essentially opinions and matters of taste,  about a work of fiction, in a way that actually hurts some people far more than the comic offends your literary sensibilities. Maybe this isn't the best discussion to have. If you nevertheless feel there something to discuss here, the DISCUSS forum may be a better place to try. I haven't been here long enough so I don't know for sure but this feels like a bad conversation :o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: efrumttr on 26 Sep 2014, 14:18
Claire's coming out to Marten was very similar to how I came out to my best friend. It wasn't at a lakehouse, granted (god I wish one of my friends had a lakehouse, that'd be awesome), but I wasn't planning on telling him at all that night nor were we talking about anything remotely related to the subject. It was very out of the blue, and I'm still not sure why I decided at that moment to do it lol. But I did. Same thing happened with a few other people as well. For other people, like my parents, I did come up with a premeditated plan beforehand on where/when I wanted to tell them and what I wanted to say when I did.

Bottom line, I don't think there was anything inorganic (word I saw used above) about how Claire did it. Sometimes it happens that way. And I definitely don't agree with the idea that because it was abrupt means it was necessarily just to 'get it out of the way' so that QC could have a trans character, nor was it Jeph screaming anything about diversity or inclusiveness even.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Sep 2014, 14:20
Hi there.  Made an account to come here and post 'cause something to say and whatnot.

Dude is telling a story.  It's a good story, obviously; he's got quite a few people (including me) interested in how it comes out.  Most of the people who like the story have some opinions about how things are going at this point.  That's kinda cool, 'cause it indicates emotional investment in the story, something most writers love to see.

That said, it's a bloody story, and it's being told by someone else.  The storyteller may have a relationship story arc in mind, or this may be a blunder on the part of one or both of the characters, or the storyteller may be trollin' the shit out of you, but getting bent out of shape about any of it is a bit on the silly side.  I personally hope Marten and Claire become a couple, 'cause I like them both and he's been alone too long and she will love him like no tomorrow if he gives her a chance, but if it turns out it was a dream and halfpint has been whispering redhead porn dialogue in his ear, okay.  Jeph's the storyteller, and I've spent five years loving his story.

Rest is details and overthinking a plate of beans, as they say in my hometown.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 14:23
she's pretty much an adorably shy book-nerd who wears her heart on her sleeve (I don't know if that's the right saying, I'm talking about how she doesn't have a pokerface like at all) and makes amazing puns

Haha, The "Giving Peas a Chance" comic basically made me want to be her best friend forever!


Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mlle Germain on 26 Sep 2014, 14:23
Today's comic is just such a happy comic and put me into a really good mood.  :lol:
I'm looking forward to how this develops next week!

I am slightly sad that this sweet and emotional comic has prompted a very similar discussion to when Claire came out to Marten instead of people just being happy about it (obviously many people are new to the forum and didn't read the discussion at the time), but I hope that anyone who didn't read the first discussion will have a look at the many resources provided on the topic in the forum.
Props to Valdís et al. for explaining the same things they must already have said over and over again in - as far as I have seen in the part of this thread that I read - a reasonable but firm way.

Edit: Fixed typo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 14:26
Bottom line, I don't think there was anything inorganic (word I saw used above) about how Claire did it. Sometimes it happens that way. And I definitely don't agree with the idea that because it was abrupt means it was necessarily just to 'get it out of the way' so that QC could have a trans character, nor was it Jeph screaming anything about diversity or inclusiveness even.

He literally introduced three un-represented "token" characters in a single panel in the most out of fashion way that we're use to. He made it up for it by making Clare a good character but I think being someone skeptical of Jeph is fair.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 26 Sep 2014, 14:28
[...]

I personally hope Marten and Claire become a couple, 'cause I like them both and he's been alone too long and she will love him like no tomorrow if he gives her a chance, but if it turns out it was a dream and halfpint has been whispering redhead porn dialogue in his ear, okay.  Jeph's the storyteller, and I've spent five years loving his story.

Personally, I agree wholeheartedly.  Unfortunately, I can't remember where it was, or whether Jeph was was just trolling us but I remember that someone once linked to a comment by the writer (I think it was Formspring but it could have been Tumblr) where he said that Marten would never be lucky in love.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 14:29
Claire's coming out to Marten was very similar to how I came out to my best friend. It wasn't at a lakehouse, granted (god I wish one of my friends had a lakehouse, that'd be awesome), but I wasn't planning on telling him at all that night nor were we talking about anything remotely related to the subject. It was very out of the blue, and I'm still not sure why I decided at that moment to do it lol. But I did. Same thing happened with a few other people as well. For other people, like my parents, I did come up with a premeditated plan beforehand on where/when I wanted to tell them and what I wanted to say when I did.

Bottom line, I don't think there was anything inorganic (word I saw used above) about how Claire did it. Sometimes it happens that way. And I definitely don't agree with the idea that because it was abrupt means it was necessarily just to 'get it out of the way' so that QC could have a trans character, nor was it Jeph screaming anything about diversity or inclusiveness even.
One of my friends has a lakehouse and a speedboat.  =P
But yeah, it definitely seems out-of-the blue when I tell my friends something personal like that.  (I don't have stuff as personal as gender or sexuality figured out, but there have been times in my life like the ones you described and... now I don't know if any of this made sense.) :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thedrd0nna on 26 Sep 2014, 14:36
Counter-point: Fuck entirely off with your transmisogyny.

I will, in fact, state that we are every bit as much women as anyone else and that is not up for "debate". I am not looking to "debate" my right to exist with you; I am telling you what is cissexist and what has underlying transmisogyny.

Gender and trans/cis/anywhere-in-between notwithstanding, your reactions to people making good-faith attempts to have a conversation are not productive.

Argh, I wrote a long post about this and then my phone deleted it! Suffice to say, trans people hear a lot of justifications from cis people about why, even though they're super supportive, we shouldn't be able to expect to date or compete in sports or use public restrooms or whatever, and if some of us don't take it easy when we hear another iteration of that same justification, it's pretty well justified.

But I'm not arguing that it's RIGHT for me or anyone to feel that way. I'm confessing that it's the case and (perhaps too presumptively) speaking for other privileged straight cis-guys, and trying to explain how it's possible both to be supportive and to experience anxiety - born of ignorance, I admit - with regard to hooking up. And that it's simply not possible for a lot of us to just erase the "Trans" part from trans woman.

Is there truly not a big difference between "You shouldn't expect to date" and "Look, this is something I'd have to come to terms with and would, like it or not, think about in a different way"?

There is a big difference-I concede that. I think part of it is that usually when people say things like "it's something society/men/whatever will have to get used to", most of the time they're using that to justify the status quo until some vague future point. It's generally not put the way you have done, where it's clear that you're talking about a change that men have to make.

In the context of the comic, though, I think People are using their own hang ups to try to predict the behavior or Marten, or justify why he shouldn't/couldn't be going in the direction that he is very clearly going. That, more than anything, is what rankles me: Claire is cute as the dickens, and I want this to work for her, dangit!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 26 Sep 2014, 14:38
Only thing I can say:

GODDAMN I CAN'T WAIT FOR MONDAYS COMIC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Sep 2014, 14:40
I can't remember where it was, or whether Jeph was was just trolling us but I remember that someone once linked to a comment by the writer (I think it was Formspring but it could have been Tumblr) where he said that Marten would never be lucky in love.

Yes, he said that; yes, it was in a generally facetious context; yes, it was a long time ago and he's allowed to change his mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 26 Sep 2014, 14:43
I can't remember where it was, or whether Jeph was was just trolling us but I remember that someone once linked to a comment by the writer (I think it was Formspring but it could have been Tumblr) where he said that Marten would never be lucky in love.

Yes, he said that; yes, it was in a generally facetious context; yes, it was a long time ago and he's allowed to change his mind.

Sorry, I wasn't saying that he's not allowed to change his mind but, as one of those who squeeed when they first saw this page, I'm just reminding everyone (including myself) that it's too soon to get our hopes up.  That would be putting the cart before the horse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: efrumttr on 26 Sep 2014, 14:46
One of my friends has a lakehouse and a speedboat.  =P
But yeah, it definitely seems out-of-the blue when I tell my friends something personal like that.  (I don't have stuff as personal as gender or sexuality figured out, but there have been times in my life like the ones you described and... now I don't know if any of this made sense.) :psyduck:

All I saw was that your friend has a lakehouse and a speedboat and now I'm super jealous :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 26 Sep 2014, 14:47
Bottom line, I don't think there was anything inorganic (word I saw used above) about how Claire did it. Sometimes it happens that way. And I definitely don't agree with the idea that because it was abrupt means it was necessarily just to 'get it out of the way' so that QC could have a trans character, nor was it Jeph screaming anything about diversity or inclusiveness even.

He literally introduced three un-represented "token" characters in a single panel in the most out of fashion way that we're use to. He made it up for it by making Clare a good character but I think being someone skeptical of Jeph is fair.

So you'd rather, what, a set of blonde white triplets? Jeph stated somewhere that he'd thought for a long time about introducing a trans character, and had sketched Claire out far in advance before she even had a name or was a character. Anytime you're dealing with a story that unfolds over a decade, you're going to have some people who show up longer than others, or whose characters end up more developed. We don't know every CoD customer's backstory, nor do we need to, for instance. But when Dale was introduced, he may have just been another person passing through, only to be returned to later when the story needed him. I suspect the same was the case with the interns.

TL;DR version: sometimes characters are fleshed out in advance; sometimes the writer figures out who they are as he's writing them. A little variety doesn't hurt in the meantime.

[slightly edited for clarity]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 15:06
One of my friends has a lakehouse and a speedboat.  =P
But yeah, it definitely seems out-of-the blue when I tell my friends something personal like that.  (I don't have stuff as personal as gender or sexuality figured out, but there have been times in my life like the ones you described and... now I don't know if any of this made sense.) :psyduck:

All I saw was that your friend has a lakehouse and a speedboat and now I'm super jealous :-P
Said lakehouse also has a TV room with the most comfortable couches I have ever slept on.
But why am I talking about this?  Clearly we must angst over imagined relationship drama between the main character of a story and his potential love interest, while simultaneously managing to feed the flamewar surrounding us.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 26 Sep 2014, 15:10
Flamewars will be instantly dealt with by the usual Mod Methods.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 26 Sep 2014, 15:26
I think it's very wrong to say that Claire's tran-ness isn't a part of her character

I'd agree with this. Like if you look at the first panel here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2389). The comic doesn't TALK about it, but you look at her expression and realize that's probably the first time she really got to dress up like that, fitting room aside. And as the comic went on she's expressed herself a lot girlier, getting her ears pierced and being more likely to wear a dress over a shirt and shorts.

Of course, most girls go through that. But not when they're 24. And that's how I think being trans is relevant to Claire's character. She's a late bloomer and still finding herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Miaboop on 26 Sep 2014, 15:26
So how about them comics?

Loving the cuteness too :3 And while there is plenty of stuff that can go wrong I think that Jeph just wants some good things to happen now. Especially with Faye's issues going on that might blow up even worse. Personally I just love this. Their faces are full of emotion and I think both of them are kinda uncertain but still happy to keep going. And, while I can't speak for everyone, the snuggling is definitely flirty in nature. Esp since we're talking about Marten, who almost never does these things, even to closer friends. I mean, have Marten and Claire even touched much other than the Wedding snuggle? And I'd think they'd be less inclined to cuddle due to the anxiety and junk that stuff sparked. So yea, I see love in the air :3

I'm just hoping they're gonna touch butts. Everyone loves butts :D

(also hi, I'm new)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Sep 2014, 15:27
Marten and Claire don't seem to regard anything in their medical histories as an elephant in the room. It's entirely their place to decide.

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Knight of Cydonia on 26 Sep 2014, 15:30
I'm basically only here to say that I really hope this isn't going to be another bait-and-switch where nothing really happens and it either gets completely ignored or completely kills their friendship. Partly because I'm tired of how often this sort of thing seems to get dangled in front of our/Marten's nose then pulled away, and mostly because they are hella cute together regardless of any other shit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Miaboop on 26 Sep 2014, 15:32
I'm basically only here to say that I really hope this isn't going to be another bait-and-switch where nothing really happens and it either gets completely ignored or completely kills their friendship. Partly because I'm tired of how often this sort of thing seems to get dangled in front of our/Marten's nose then pulled away, and mostly because they are hella cute together regardless of any other shit.

I might flip several tables if this leads to them ending their friendship. And because I'm not sure about what Jeph might do, I'm scared and confused now  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 26 Sep 2014, 15:32
I'm basically only here to say that I really hope this isn't going to be another bait-and-switch where nothing really happens and it either gets completely ignored or completely kills their friendship. Partly because I'm tired of how often this sort of thing seems to get dangled in front of our/Marten's nose then pulled away, and mostly because they are hella cute together regardless of any other shit.
Ya know, I hadn't thought of that, but yeah, he's had a couple instances of things not going long term.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Sep 2014, 15:35
Can I just say that I'm incredibly jealous of both Marten and Claire, and what they're sharing, right now?

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Claire's extreme defensiveness regarding Faye's inquiry is something along the lines of anxiety about her feelings not being returned by Marten, and her coming up with excuses for why it'd be a bad idea anyway (and then she doesn't have to confront her anxiety, she can just avoid it). If that is what's going on... I think this is the moment where Claire's forced to admit to herself that she has a crush on Marten and that that's OK. I just hope it goes better for her than the last time that particular defense mechanism of mine failed...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 26 Sep 2014, 15:39
Marten and Claire don't seem to regard anything in their medical histories as an elephant in the room. It's entirely their place to decide.


Anyone uncomfortable with trans people, please work it out somewhere else.
New people: don't use this thread as an example of how to do things here. It's right on the edge of requiring major moderator intervention, in fact.
Everyone: major moderator intervention starts any time now.


I realize that, with fewer than 100 posts to my name, I'm in talking out of turn here, but please don't lock down the thread. This conversation is infinitely more interesting than 7 pages of "SQUEEEEEEEE!!!!!", and the majority of people involved in it as discussing the topic sensitively and in earnest. Please don't let the smattering of dipshits ruin it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thedrd0nna on 26 Sep 2014, 15:41
Of course, most girls go through that. But not when they're 24. And that's how I think being trans is relevant to Claire's character. She's a late bloomer and still finding herself.

Oh mah Gah yes! That's one part of transitioning that never really occurred to me before my own. I'm in my twenties and learning things/doing things that most women did in their teens-experimenting with my style of dress, getting my ears pierced, learning how to do makeup. It's sort of like a second puberty, not just in terms of the actual physiological changes, but the attendant "growing into an adult of $gender" rituals as well. Of course, this time I don't view it as irreversible changes that cause depression and isolation, so that's nice too.

I think that's a mark of how great off storyteller (not to mention a trans ally) Jeph is-he has created and grown Claire in a way where her trans-ness is apparent and realistic, but just like in reality it's not showcased or focused upon. It's just a thing that's there sometimes and sometimes colors her actions or experiences.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Sep 2014, 15:44
Quote
I think that's a mark of how great off storyteller (not to mention a trans ally) Jeph is-he has created and grown Claire in a way where her trans-ness is apparent and realistic, but just like in reality it's not showcased or focused upon. It's just a thing that's there sometimes and sometimes colors her actions or experiences.

Not that anyone here needs my approval, but this.  Times about a thousand.  Good words.

Take care,

B
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 15:46
I'm just hoping they're gonna touch butts. Everyone loves butts :D

(also hi, I'm new)

Hahaha... That reminded me of this:
(http://media.tumblr.com/6f39511e6e30a8e080c791f55d5771df/tumblr_mezr6zJWbs1r17qi5o9_r1_250.gif)

Hi, New!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: JaneAlice on 26 Sep 2014, 16:23
I really don't know what to say to this. This weeks comics have made my heart smile and then to see the forums going in this direction, well it is heart breaking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 26 Sep 2014, 16:30
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1146

Faye got lapbarfed after Marten got food poisoning.
All part of Pintsize's plan to make Marten associate barf to hot women.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Grismandir on 26 Sep 2014, 16:35
I really don't know what to say to this. This weeks comics have made my heart smile and then to see the forums going in this direction, well it is heart breaking.

Right there with you. I joined the forum (as, apparently,  did many others) because of the awesomeness of this week in QC. I started reading this thread, and... yeah. Wow.
All I'm going to say about the debate that's been going on is this: to me, the art of being human consists of treating other people as human beings, whether you understand them or not.
All I'm going to say about the comic (for now, at least) is, OMG that is about the cutest and sweetest thing ever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 26 Sep 2014, 16:45
I really don't know what to say to this. This weeks comics have made my heart smile and then to see the forums going in this direction, well it is heart breaking.

Right there with you. I joined the forum (as, apparently,  did many others) because of the awesomeness of this week in QC. I started reading this thread, and... yeah. Wow.
All I'm going to say about the debate that's been going on is this: to me, the art of being human consists of treating other people as human beings, whether you understand them or not.
All I'm going to say about the comic (for now, at least) is, OMG that is about the cutest and sweetest thing ever.

I really don't understand this position. Except for a few shithead trolls who are obviously just trying to stir up trouble, I think everyone here is trying to have a rational conversation about a topic that's important both in the real world and (potentially, at least) in the comic. If that's not your bag, you've got a solid 6-7 pages of "OMG, Squeeeee!!!!" you can reread before the discussion on gender queerness, privilege, etc., even gets rolling.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 16:47
I'm just hoping they're gonna touch butts. Everyone loves butts :D

(also hi, I'm new)

Hahaha... That reminded me of this:
(http://media.tumblr.com/6f39511e6e30a8e080c791f55d5771df/tumblr_mezr6zJWbs1r17qi5o9_r1_250.gif)

Hi, New!
this is the best thing.  I really need to get around to a marathon run of Bob's Burgers one of these days.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 16:53
I'm just hoping they're gonna touch butts. Everyone loves butts :D

(also hi, I'm new)

Hahaha... That reminded me of this:
(http://media.tumblr.com/6f39511e6e30a8e080c791f55d5771df/tumblr_mezr6zJWbs1r17qi5o9_r1_250.gif)

Hi, New!
this is the best thing.  I really need to get around to a marathon run of Bob's Burgers one of these days.

Tina Belcher is my hero.

(hint: They have three seasons of Bobs Burgers on Netflix!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Grismandir on 26 Sep 2014, 17:06
I really don't know what to say to this. This weeks comics have made my heart smile and then to see the forums going in this direction, well it is heart breaking.

Right there with you. I joined the forum (as, apparently,  did many others) because of the awesomeness of this week in QC. I started reading this thread, and... yeah. Wow.
All I'm going to say about the debate that's been going on is this: to me, the art of being human consists of treating other people as human beings, whether you understand them or not.
All I'm going to say about the comic (for now, at least) is, OMG that is about the cutest and sweetest thing ever.

I really don't understand this position. Except for a few shithead trolls who are obviously just trying to stir up trouble, I think everyone here is trying to have a rational conversation about a topic that's important both in the real world and (potentially, at least) in the comic. If that's not your bag, you've got a solid 6-7 pages of "OMG, Squeeeee!!!!" you can reread before the discussion on gender queerness, privilege, etc., even gets rolling.

True. I suppose it was my excitement about the strip meeting the reality of the internet (where drama is inevitable, if the thread reaches any real length) that soured my enthusiasm.

I've really liked Claire since the puns started; that's when her personality really gelled for me. The nonissue of her being trans, the wedding snuggles... I think she and Marten are gorgeous together, and this week really has an 'OMG SQUEEEE' quotient that's off the scale.

I also know that  Mr. Jacques is not above playing with our emotions, so I'm making no assumptions. I've been reading this strip for a little while now, though, so I'm confident it'll be handled well, whichever direction it goes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 26 Sep 2014, 17:09
Tai, I expect, is going to cover for Marten and Claire until one of them (probably Marten) can find a new job and remove the ethical conflict. This may be exactly the kick in the pants Marten needs to get out of his rut and get his life moving forward.

I've said it before and I'll say it again until I'm blue in the face: pretty sure there is no ethical conflict, outside of their own messed up heads.

Marten is NOT part of Claire's command structure, outside the very vague idea of being an employee of the place she's interning at. He has no real say any more than any other employee to her hiring chances (if a possibility at all), wages, disciplinary actions, etc.

It *might* be something if Tai and Claire were an item. Maaaaaybe. But Marten and Claire are very close to being same-level employees, and it is rare for there to be any particular ethical considerations in those sorts of relationships.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Sep 2014, 17:11
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Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 26 Sep 2014, 17:19
He literally introduced three un-represented "token" characters in a single panel in the most out of fashion way that we're use to. He made it up for it by making Clare a good character but I think being someone skeptical of Jeph is fair.

How are they token characters, however? They are just bloody ordinary characters. Being black has never been Gabby's characterisation, nor has being Asian been Emily's, nor Claire's being trans.

Yes, they were all introduced in a single panel. But think of the context, it was right after the conclusion of the Padma arc. If one might have had the impression that they were token characters, then one might have considered them female token characters. One could argue that it seemed like Jeph introduced them as "potential love interests for Marten"; it's a good thing Jeph went greater lengths to reduce this.

Edit: Sorry IICIH, no "new posts" notification on Tapatalk, I didn't see that you moved posts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Sep 2014, 17:25
Well, your post _is_ about the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 26 Sep 2014, 17:28
I think it's very wrong to say that Claire's tran-ness isn't a part of her character

I'd agree with this. Like if you look at the first panel here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2389). The comic doesn't TALK about it, but you look at her expression and realize that's probably the first time she really got to dress up like that, fitting room aside. And as the comic went on she's expressed herself a lot girlier, getting her ears pierced and being more likely to wear a dress over a shirt and shorts.

Of course, most girls go through that. But not when they're 24. And that's how I think being trans is relevant to Claire's character. She's a late bloomer and still finding herself.
I agree.  This also applies to her lack of romantic experience and her uncertainty around boys.  If I recall correctly, she more or less directly attributed the fact that she's never kissed anybody to being caught up in her own transition. 

We've also seen her discuss her coming to terms with safety issues because of being trans. This is an element in her relationship with Clinton, and has probably contributed to her general anxiety and tension.

Overall, I think it's been a great balance in which her trans-ness is is a part of her character but not her defining characteristic.  Nice work, Jeph.

As for the question of whether Marten wants to date a trans girl, why preemptively agonize over this if we're not also going to agonize over whether Marten wants to date a book geek, or a grad student, or someone who's inexperienced at dating, or someone who doesn't know s*** about indie music, or any of Claire's other characteristics that he could conceivably not desire in a partner?

And if this is a long term thing - "Don't ever stop." - whats Veronica's reaction going to be? There is plenty of scope for comedic confusion, as so many think they know more than they do, and some misconceptions are hilarious. She's likely to have more than most.
Haha, I forgot about how Veronica was already trying to get Marten and Claire together at the wedding.  I can imagine her inundating Claire with sex tips when she and Marten are still in the "holding hands" phase of a relationship.  :-D

The other thing: Marten is drunk, but he doesn't appear to be "accidentally eat an armadillo" drunk. I mean, he still seems reasonably in control of his faculties, and aware of what's going on around him. With that said, if a girl is nuzzling your neck and saying "don't ever stop", you would have to be Tequila Monster drunk, or worse, not to get that message.
Good point.  However oblivious he was to start with, he's got to be at least starting to catch on by now, and his reaction is all positive.

As for drunken Marten being "intimate" here with Claire, I have my own theories.  The drunken socializer.  When sober, I absolutely HATE being touched.  Major pet-peeve.  Also decently introverted.  Get me drunk though, and I schmooze.  And not just that, I get way super feely with people, even strangers, more so with friends.  I basically become the hugging panda bear.  Embarrassing really, but true.
Steve does that (http://www.questionablecontent.net/2321), but I don't think we've ever seen Marty do it, and we've seen him drunk quite a few times.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Sep 2014, 17:37
Here's what I put together when Claire first confided in Marten, for all the new people who signed up then.

Quote from: Oldie but goodie
Welcome!

In another situation (involving a sexual minority, actually, though that wasn't the point), Jeph got tons of email about an individual decision the character was making, because the people emailing him thought it was a message about everyone in the same minority.

Unless Jeph makes an unprecedented change in how he writes, Claire is going to be an individual. (If I understand right, in fact, that's the part that is a breath of fresh air for trans people looking at portrayals in the media). The characters all screw up to the normal human extent, and a bit more so that funny situations come up.

When Claire does something stupid, be reassured in advance that it's NOT a reflection on other trans people.

If a character says something stupid or hostile to or about Claire, that character will be the opposite of speaking for the author. If nobody does, it's only because Jeph apparently doesn't enjoy writing nasty people.

If Claire's experiences don't match those of other trans people, same comment, she's an individual. For example, right now it looks like she has a supportive family. That doesn't mean Jeph is suppressing the reality of the reactions so many trans people get from those who most need to support them.

Quote from: Jeph
    ...if you're trying to divine some overarching moral standpoint from my comic: the moral of my comic is that people should try to be nice to each other."

(100% off topic, I like Claire. She reminds me of myself in several ways).

EDIT: The comic and the forum include large doses of silliness, even about the most serious of subjects. The Claire story line is going to remind many people of the worst experiences of their lives. Humor is consistent with respect for your experience. This next quote isn't official, but it's insightful:
Quote from: Dr. ROFLPWN
    I also think it's important to step back, take a breath, and recall that QC is at its heart a lighthearted situational comedy where perpetual hipsters, nerds and a mad scientist's daughter share lives with porn-obsessed robots and Yelling Birds, and that if you view everything in it through the lens of Really Serious Drama, you are inviting nothing but constant heartbreak. Like life, QC should be enjoyed, and laughed at, not just the source of bitten lips and pursed brows
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ElsaStegosaurus on 26 Sep 2014, 17:40
Can I just say that I'm incredibly jealous of both Marten and Claire, and what they're sharing, right now?

Srsly.  This comic is giving me some serious flashbacks (and some pangs) to a time when things were new and nervous and exciting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: CaptainFish on 26 Sep 2014, 17:54
I might've been overly facile with my cute line earlier. But, it's my simplified read of what I think is a really well written positive moment of character development. Marten is being intimate in a surprisingly confident, but also nigh-platonic fashion. Even though he's drunk/tipsy, he asks for consent which shows he's not so far gone as to behave abnormally (like when Faye knocked him out) and also that he has a lot of care and concern for Claire. Claire is having what might be her first intimate/semi-intimate experience (outside of the wedding cuddle and Steve butt grab) and she's not only enjoying the hell out of it but appears completely at ease and safe. It's a beautiful moment not only for their relationship but for both of them as individuals. And while I think Marten's behaviour in these strips and Claire's interactions with Marten recently show that their relationship is going to another level, even if it doesn't this moment is still great.

So, yeah, applying questionable hangups to Marten based on nothing does kinda bum me out even if it did lead to some really important discussion, cause I think the text tells a much different story.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Y on 26 Sep 2014, 17:58
Well it's not like Marten has to grade them, but it would different if they would be permanently joining the library staff. As the reason to not date coworkers is not because of whether your employer is cool with it but because you have to work with them if it didn't pan out well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: de_la_Nae on 26 Sep 2014, 18:07
I really feel like everyone (both in the forums and in the comic) is blowing the ethical dilemma WAY out of proportion.  There is definitely a standard of conduct between coworkers in the workplace, and this might be an issue between two people in a large corporation, if it were a supervisor/subordinate relationship that existed fairly high up the food chain. 

They're working at a university library.

Due to his lack of anything remotely resembling a Library Sciences degree, Marten is at best some sort of generic library assistant.  I'd posit there's a pretty good chance that his job duties involve little more than what he showed the interns in the montage - basic library and facility upkeep duties.  I seriously doubt he has ANY administrative duties at all, those would fall to Tai, especially anything involving hiring/firing or scheduling (if the interns are paid, I can guarantee that is controlled by someone above her, probably the HR unit of whatever department the library falls under).  If I had to guess, the interns are doing the exact same thing that Marten is, and he's only marginally "above" them because he's a permanent employee and has been there longer.  His actual degree of control over them is likely limited to having them run minor errands or something, and I really can't see how dating one of them could present any kind of conflict of interest.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 18:16
So, yeah, applying questionable hangups to Marten based on nothing does kinda bum me out even if it did lead to some really important discussion, cause I think the text tells a much different story.

This is how I feel about it too. Marten is a pretty sensitive guy. He can be awkward, but he's pretty socially adept in the way he treats people with respect and all. I would think that if he did have any personal hang ups he'd be more careful with the perception of his actions even if he was a little tipsy.



Anyway... I'm super jealous and want back scratches now...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 26 Sep 2014, 18:19
Just flipping in my pair o' pennies on the Claire/Emily/Gabby thing, I don't see any problem with their introduction, or how it's gone since. I mean, yes, this is a story, and stories are generally driven with a particular sort of context, in the sense that if someone is introduced quite noticeably into the fold, it means you'll be seeing more of them.

But in this case, and it's been this way for most of QC, too, it's more realistic. In real life, people come and go. Sometimes you'll meet a group of friends or co-workers, and only one will gel, if any. Not everyone enters our lives to be there permanently. So removing skin color/race from the equation (not as a form of erasure, but just to look at this picture in a more general perspective) I get what Jeph did with Gabby, even unintentionally. She might not have ingratiated herself into the complex web that is our long-beloved main characters, but that's absolutely more than likely because she's living her own life with friends, family, etc. off-panel.

As for Emily and her quote-unquote "weirdness", I think it's just a case of Flanderization more than anything else. But this happened with other characters briefly too; one could argue Faye's first punching of Marten, then leading to her being almost notoriously violent for a time, was a form of Flanderization, but that's since been long gone. Point being, if Jeph expands on Emily's character, he expands on her. If she doesn't, I don't think we should take it as a form of racism or tokenization or anything negative like that; we should just enjoy her for what she is, that being a weird, lovable gal who doesn't have a lot of hangups about how people see her, and just goes on her instinct, asking and doing things other people perhaps won't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 18:33
Can I just say that I'm incredibly jealous of both Marten and Claire, and what they're sharing, right now?

Srsly.  This comic is giving me some serious flashbacks (and some pangs) to a time when things were new and nervous and exciting.
I keep getting this weird visceral feeling whenever I look at Claire's expression, like I've felt something like it before, but I've never been in a remotely similar situation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 26 Sep 2014, 18:37
Marten hasn't shown anything either way. He's playing around with her like she's a cat or a little sister. The point is that people are setting themselves for a possible heart break.

Thank you, Alphawolf!  Those EXACT two images -- she's acting like a cat!  he's acting like a big brother! --occurred to me, and I've been reading the comments trying to see if someone will bring it up. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 18:44
Marten hasn't shown anything either way. He's playing around with her like she's a cat or a little sister. The point is that people are setting themselves for a possible heart break.

Thank you, Alphawolf!  Those EXACT two images -- she's acting like a cat!  he's acting like a big brother! --occurred to me, and I've been reading the comments trying to see if someone will bring it up.
I totally agree with this, but... muh ship ;_;
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 26 Sep 2014, 18:54
I'm gonna go off to work tonight, come back home, log in, and we'll be up to 15 pages, won't we?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 18:56
I'm gonna go off to work tonight, come back home, log in, and we'll be up to 15 pages, won't we?

Either that or the forum gets torched. We'll see what happens first.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Knight of Cydonia on 26 Sep 2014, 18:59
I'm gonna go off to work tonight, come back home, log in, and we'll be up to 15 pages, won't we?

Either that or the forum gets torched. We'll see what happens first.

(http://i.imgur.com/Oxv465O.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Sep 2014, 19:00
On the whole "acting like a cat" thing, it's amusing to note that Jeph's news post was: ":3 :3 :3". Cat faces!

I sincerely hope the forum doesn't have to get torched. The previous page had me thinking that I'd catch up and there'd be a big post explaining how we're all horrible and the thread had to be shut down because we don't deserve nice things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 26 Sep 2014, 19:03
 At 15 pages a genie appears to grant a wish. Be very careful how you word it however, as it's a monkeys paw thing and he'll screw you if he can.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 19:07
At 15 pages a genie appears to grant a wish. Be very careful how you word it however, as it's a monkeys paw thing and he'll screw you if he can.

"The genie will answer one question and one question only."
"Each?"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Sep 2014, 19:08
So... wish for one (or any number of) "do what I mean" wish(es), then?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 19:11
At 15 pages a genie appears to grant a wish. Be very careful how you word it however, as it's a monkeys paw thing and he'll screw you if he can.
"I wish for Marten and Claire to get into a stable, healthy relationship within the next 50 strips."
okay guys let's look for loopholes in this wish now, because I think this is what we want, yes?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Sep 2014, 19:14
Loopholes: The next strip could be the final strip of the comic. No stipulations were made regarding the other characters, who may all suffer.

The only way out is wishing for wishes that don't get subject to being fuddled with.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fenriswolf on 26 Sep 2014, 19:15
Now, Gabby and Emily's races are very relevant to their (imaginary) life experiences, but I still was extremely confused by the "three token characters" thing. It's not like there have never been POC in QC before. I just... don't think it's super weird that you'd have three interns of different races, and trans status that is nobody's business and not relevant to her schooling?

As for the coming out, I didn't see that as unnatural. It makes sense to casually drop things into conversation wrt to being gay (this is in fact a tactic I use to make it clear I'm bi/pan) because it's something that is going to involve other people. Your friends are going to know/need to be accepting of your partners. Whereas being trans doesn't actually change anything about how you behave, and only matters in terms of your safety and potentially if you're going to date someone. It doesn't necessarily determine how much you flirt/who you flirt with, how you dress, or anything external. When I have told friends about my gender-questioning it has been in a determindly "this is just a thing about me, not a big deal" way, but it has also been private and is not something I want everyone to know and treat me differently/interrogate me about.

TL;DR: I think the coming out seemed natural and the character introduction didn't seem forced.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fenriswolf on 26 Sep 2014, 19:16
Oo, I'll add my vote to your wish, Smashwidget. I wasn't really shipping anybody before but I sure am now. SOCUTE.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 19:20
Loopholes: The next strip could be the final strip of the comic. No stipulations were made regarding the other characters, who may all suffer.

The only way out is wishing for wishes that don't get subject to being fuddled with.
"...and that the strip doesn't end within the next 1000 pages."
Because who cares if the other characters are messed with?  If everything was all hunky-dory for everyone, then the strip wouldn't really be readable.  Ah need muh dramas.

EDIT:  Actually I think we should just wish for the genie to go away without messing anything up.  Because World Peace would most likely involve total genocide of the human race, and I've got nothin' else. :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 26 Sep 2014, 19:38
I didn't necessarily see a problem with the introduction of the interns and we've had Amir, Padma and Dale who aren't white and of those characters  Amir and Dale have had some spot light time beyond their introduction.
Granted, that isn't saying a heck of a lot for diversity, but the interns didn't strike me as tokenism.

I'm kind of disappointed that we haven't seen more of Gabby as a character but she hasn't been eaten by an Allosaurus yet, so who knows.
 
The introduction of a new character that ends up going no further than a couple of strips is pretty common to slice of life type comics as well as other serial story telling mediums.  Some characters just don't inspire as much at first or they never get beyond an outline, sometimes they're popular but their arc is static and the story moves in another direction. Penelope, Will, Raven and Steve (among other characters) just aren't always around.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 26 Sep 2014, 19:55
Regarding Claire's coming out to Marten, I don't think the phrase "coming out" would even be a phrase if it weren't common for people to flat-out tell other people, "I'm ____."  Even among open-minded friends like the folks in QC, it's often at least a sorta big deal to say it, and often more comfortable for people to say it and discuss it than drop casual references and wonder what people are thinking.  Since Claire was Marten's new friend as well as QC's new character, it made perfect sense to me that we learned she was trans by way of her coming out to Marten.

The real Northampton is 87.7% white,  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton,_Massachusetts#Demographics) so I don't think Jeph's all that off-base with the racial mix in the strip.  A few other folks we've seen in passing, by the way: Meena, Renee, Bailey, Doctor Corinne.  Hey, it's been too long since we've seen Doctor Corinne.  She was awesome.  ("'Just go out and band some dude' is one of the phrases you will never heard a psychiatrist say. Other such phrases include 'I think the heroin is doing you a lot of good,' and 'jesus, no WONDER your mother never loved you.')
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 20:10
Bear in mind as well that by most webcomic standards, Questionable Content does have a fairly sizeable regular cast and a limited amount of space to work with. Now each character is going to be unique, but at the same time, each fills a certain role and unfortunately, there will be a certain amount of overlay. For example, in the case of the library staff, you have Marten - who might be considered the straight man to the shenanigans going on there. You have Tai - the sometime stoner/sometime level-headed boss. Claire - sometimes prone to acting rashly and something of a jerk at times. Emily - Well, she's Emily, 'nuff said. And finally, you have Gabby - Who compared to Emily and Claire, is the straight man of the interns. So one might imagine that strips featuring just her and Marten might be relatively boring. This isn't saying that Gabby was a poorly created character or simply written out, but I can see from Jeph's perspective why she might be difficult to work with and there's only so much you can do with a character before you have to give them a rest. You can see with quite a few other characters, most famously Raven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Alphawolf55 on 26 Sep 2014, 20:12
I didn't necessarily see a problem with the introduction of the interns and we've had Amir, Padma and Dale who aren't white and of those characters  Amir and Dale have had some spot light time beyond their introduction.
Granted, that isn't saying a heck of a lot for diversity, but the interns didn't strike me as tokenism.

Now look at how all those other characters were introduced, they came up as individuals and they came up through their daily lives, vs the interns that were all introduced in the same panel, felt like a harem introduction and just so happened to have each one of them part of a group not represented in the comic while giving minimal personality so far (Except for Clare who became a fan favorite and thus more screen time)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Sep 2014, 20:25
Only thing I can say:

GODDAMN I CAN'T WAIT FOR MONDAYS COMIC.

Preach it brother!


Can I just say that I'm incredibly jealous of both Marten and Claire, and what they're sharing, right now?

Srsly.  This comic is giving me some serious flashbacks (and some pangs) to a time when things were new and nervous and exciting.


I am beyond jelly. Which is kinda why I want it to go well! Let me live vicariously through your characters Jephizbah!

*sob*

Gods I'm so alone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bjams on 26 Sep 2014, 20:35
I'm fairly certain that Jeff is just trolling us.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 26 Sep 2014, 20:37
I'm gonna go off to work tonight, come back home, log in, and we'll be up to 15 pages, won't we?

Well, seeing that yesterday I logged out and it was at five pages compared to the 13 pages when I logged on today, it's quite possible. I could've done without sqeeeeezing past all the squee piles forum goers left lying around, though.

Thoughts about the latest developments? Wow, too much heavy lifting. I'm taking the wait-and-see route, because I don't like to get my exercise by jumping to conclusions. I am leaning towards Claire reading a bit too much into what a tipsy Marten is doing, but hey, it's all good. Let's hear it for Monday! (Whoa, never thought I'd say that!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 20:51
I'm gonna go off to work tonight, come back home, log in, and we'll be up to 15 pages, won't we?

Well, seeing that yesterday I logged out and it was at five pages compared to the 13 pages when I logged on today, it's quite possible. I could've done without sqeeeeezing past all the squee piles forum goers left lying around, though.

Thoughts about the latest developments? Wow, too much heavy lifting. I'm taking the wait-and-see route, because I don't like to get my exercise by jumping to conclusions. I am leaning towards Claire reading a bit too much into what a tipsy Marten is doing, but hey, it's all good. Let's hear it for Monday! (Whoa, never thought I'd say that!)
squeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Srxjo on 26 Sep 2014, 21:17
I'm gonna go off to work tonight, come back home, log in, and we'll be up to 15 pages, won't we?

Well, seeing that yesterday I logged out and it was at five pages compared to the 13 pages when I logged on today, it's quite possible. I could've done without sqeeeeezing past all the squee piles forum goers left lying around, though.

Thoughts about the latest developments? Wow, too much heavy lifting. I'm taking the wait-and-see route, because I don't like to get my exercise by jumping to conclusions. I am leaning towards Claire reading a bit too much into what a tipsy Marten is doing, but hey, it's all good. Let's hear it for Monday! (Whoa, never thought I'd say that!)

That is a saying i didn't expect anyone to ever say :P and if Jeph feels trollish i forsee Mondays comic being Steve eating some cereal or drinking on the couch or something for all the panels, if that happens i can just imagine next weeks chat haha.

And i'm with you on the whole waiting and seeing thing, it can be fun to think of the possibilities and the outcomes but in the end it all comes down to what Jeph has planned/feels like when it comes to what happens in the story only time can tell and this comic is what makes me hate the weekends, waking up checking the website and then thinking to myself "Fuck... It's the weekend so no comics". Though no matter what happens i bet Jeph is enjoying the cliffhanger he left us with, knowing that so many people are really getting into his story and torturing them :P.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 Sep 2014, 21:24
I just had a horrible, horrible idea for a twist to this story, but I won't say it on the forum because I'll probably jinx it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 26 Sep 2014, 21:32
How come we haven't seen Gabby in like, forever?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 26 Sep 2014, 21:35
 He's not said anything, but I think Jeph's problem with Gabby is he made a stereotype sassy black woman. Not because that was what he set out to do, but because he can't help but sass.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 26 Sep 2014, 21:59
He's not said anything, but I think Jeph's problem with Gabby is he made a stereotype sassy black woman. Not because that was what he set out to do, but because he can't help but sass.
I dunno, I think you're applying stereotypes where there are none.  She seems pretty normal in the five (this is an exaggeration) strips she appears in.  And I don't think any character of Jacques' can help but sass.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 26 Sep 2014, 22:19
EDIT: Also, I think it's the general consensus that the media is wrong about everything else trans related.

The last three words are redundant.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Sep 2014, 22:29
Remember when Hannelore came back from her practice date with Sven? She had to deal with friends who were looking to find problems, and finally exclaimed "Why can't you just be happy for me?" or something to that effect.

Let's just be happy for Marten and Claire. Whatever the future holds, we will always have the Moment of Perfect Cuteness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 26 Sep 2014, 23:05
Remember when Hannelore came back from her practice date with Sven? She had to deal with friends who were looking to find problems, and finally exclaimed "Why can't you just be happy for me?" or something to that effect.

Let's just be happy for Marten and Claire. Whatever the future holds, we will always have the Moment of Perfect Cuteness.

Yeah this so much.

Embrace the ups and downs of life, there is no such thing as SECURITY in this world.

People love to latch onto their idea of security and ever-lasting but that shit is not guaranteed to anyone  Understand that SHIT HAPPENS and you'll be better off overall, even if it doesn't always feel like it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 26 Sep 2014, 23:19
At some point Faye will walk through in her underwear on her way to the bathroom and there will be some kind of tension to break... For now, just enjoy the squeeee.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 26 Sep 2014, 23:41
At some point Faye will walk through in her underwear on her way to the bathroom and there will be some kind of tension to break... For now, just enjoy the squeeee.

Given how quietly eager she seems to be to make this match, I think she'd sooner take a leak in one of those mason jars before risking interrupting whatever they're doing by leaving the room.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NilsO on 26 Sep 2014, 23:50
I miss Emily. I guess Marten also will start thinking about her when he gets sober.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Sep 2014, 00:00
Many people's complaints about the limited appearance of some characters might (just might) be lessened if Jeph wrote ten strips a day...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 00:07
Claire and Marten in tiny hats would make me the happiest boy in the world.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 27 Sep 2014, 00:07
I miss Emily. I guess Marten also will start thinking about her when he gets sober.

I can't pretend to have any understanding of your certainty that he feels anything beyond the platonic for Emily, or vice versa. Not taking a dig, I honestly just can't grasp it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Jazzmaster on 27 Sep 2014, 00:11
I miss Emily. I guess Marten also will start thinking about her when he gets sober.

I can't pretend to have any understanding of your certainty that he feels anything beyond the platonic for Emily, or vice versa. Not taking a dig, I honestly just can't grasp it.

Well Marten is not really a guy with a lot of options, so to be perfectly honest he's less likely to turn down ANY girl who gives him any form of attention.

To put it another way: remember when Claire and Marten went to the wedding and he was all like OMG CLAIRE WAS SNUGGLING ME, but he had no indication of real attraction to her?  Same thing seemed to happen after Emily gave him a peck on the cheek, and he even gave the same speech as Claire.  The one about intern-librarian relationships being a bad idea.

TL;DR people make decisions and rationalize them later, not the other way around. So we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 27 Sep 2014, 00:12
He's not said anything, but I think Jeph's problem with Gabby is he made a stereotype sassy black woman. Not because that was what he set out to do, but because he can't help but sass.

I thought the problem was that she was too much like Faye.

Someone before this post also mentioned that Gabby is kind of a level headed straight man to the intern comedy trio and that can be less interesting to write.

And someone before even that mentioned how Dale was kind of a background character for a long time before he became a fairly significant character.

At any rate, Gabby might come back later or become a spy and disappear for two years
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 00:17
I miss Emily. I guess Marten also will start thinking about her when he gets sober.

I can't pretend to have any understanding of your certainty that he feels anything beyond the platonic for Emily, or vice versa. Not taking a dig, I honestly just can't grasp it.

Well Marten is not really a guy with a lot of options, so to be perfectly honest he's less likely to turn down ANY girl who gives him any form of attention.

To put it another way: remember when Claire and Marten went to the wedding and he was all like OMG CLAIRE WAS SNUGGLING ME, but he had no indication of real attraction to her?  Same thing seemed to happen after Emily gave him a peck on the cheek, and he even gave the same speech as Claire.  The one about intern-librarian relationships being a bad idea.

TL;DR people make decisions and rationalize them later, not the other way around. So we'll see what happens.
As I once saw on the Wikipedia article on rationalization, "Humans are rationalizing creatures, not rational ones." -some famous philosopher guy or other, I pay zero attention to names  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 27 Sep 2014, 00:19
Many people's complaints about the limited appearance of some characters might (just might) be lessened if Jeph wrote ten strips a day...

I'm just trying to convince Jeph to show us what Gabby is doing for Monday's update.

What?
It worked for Steve fans.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 27 Sep 2014, 00:23
Mein Gott.  :psyduck:

When I last saw this thread, it was 8 pages in. I am not reading back through all these replies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: lovethemix on 27 Sep 2014, 01:00
1. Mad props to all the trans* people who have to put up with this shit daily, and still try to educate and open minds.
2. Thanks to the mods who're trying to keep this forum a decent place.

I've been reading since 06? 07? The first time I lurked the forums was after Claire came out. I was really excited, but also sad bc of all the trolls and transphobic shit.

Hopefully this thread will turn around.

3. Squee. I like Marten, I like Claire, I think they could have a nice thing. I'm assuming Steve will be eating cereal come Monday, but I hope this all ends posi.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 27 Sep 2014, 01:01
Mein Gott.  :psyduck:

When I last saw this thread, it was 8 pages in. I am not reading back through all these replies.
You should. It's been an interesting ride.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Sep 2014, 01:14
Note also that another page-worth of posts about dating and prejudice (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30119.0.html) has been split out to the Discuss! forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 27 Sep 2014, 01:22
1. Mad props to all the trans* people who have to put up with this shit daily, and still try to educate and open minds.

This. So much this. I have so much respect for anybody who has to deal with this kind of shit their whole life, and then is still able to objectively explain things. Thank you folks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: lovethemix on 27 Sep 2014, 01:35
Apologies if that came off as patronizing  :psyduck:. It's naive, but I've kinda used QC and it's community as a moral compass, coming from a privileged position.   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 01:36
A thought experiment. Pretend for just a minute that Claire had a more usual childhood and adolescence.

Exactly what difference would that make to your feelings about the comic?

Claire's a late bloomer. She had no idea that anyone could feel this way. Her reaction? To snuggle in total bliss, acting without thought, entirely on instinct. She's discovered things about Life that most know a decade earlier, and discovered things about herself too. Things she never suspected. My own experience here is recent enough so that I can remember what an eye-opener it was.

If things get more serious, have no fear that the comic will cease being QC if Marten's found Ms Right. Claire still has anxiety issues. Then there's Veronica. Then there's OMG CLINTON!!! If Claire did not exist, it would be necessary to invent her if Marten was to find is mate, but QC was to continue.

Jeph was very canny getting Claire's nonstandard background out of the way early, it could have proved a distraction from the more important issues of character growth and healing that we're getting into now.

If the Claire/Marten ship sails, there will be more, not less, story material about the Life and Times of Marten.

p.s. Squeee
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 01:47
Apologies if that came off as patronizing  :psyduck:. It's naive, but I've kinda used QC and it's community as a moral compass, coming from a privileged position.
It didn't. It's fine. It came off as a rather kind and thoroughly human thing to say. Thanks!

Now onto more important things. Imagining the kind of wedding dress Claire might want. I think.. something so traditional it's outrageously over the top might actually work for her. Something she might allow herself to consider by then, and she has the looks and the hair to carry it off.

Of course it might only be a dream, figuratively if not literally. But a happy one, a growing one no matter what eventuates.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 02:59
A pair of horses are pushing a cart down the road. When asked why, they said "neigh", but meant "Somebody just put it in front of us, I don't know why. It'd be easier to pull the damn thing." Seriously, though, marriage speculation? I'm rooting for them too, but, seriously... those horses are going to get tired. Then they'll drop dead and some smart aleck is going to come along and start beating them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 27 Sep 2014, 03:03
Claire's a late bloomer. She had no idea that anyone could feel this way. Her reaction? To snuggle in total bliss, acting without thought, entirely on instinct. She's discovered things about Life that most know a decade earlier, and discovered things about herself too. Things she never suspected.

This reminds me of the convo with Clinton after the wedding arc where she talks about being cautious but still going out living life and taking risks...which struck me as a very cool of her and that made me like her a lot.
She just seems the type that wins at chess without thinking too hard about the strategy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 04:02
Seriously, though, marriage speculation? I'm rooting for them too, but, seriously...

I at least have an excuse. The one time I was in a remarkably similar situation, we ended up engaged within a few weeks, married after a sensible 1-year delay. It's our 34th anniversary in February.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 27 Sep 2014, 04:39
Marten and Claire don't seem to regard anything in their medical histories as an elephant in the room. It's entirely their place to decide.
There *is* something about Claire's medical history that may be of relevance here, and it isn't the one that people have been screeching about.  Girl takes Ativan.  That's not the kind of medication that responsible doctors hand out lightly, due to the fact that benzos are highly addictive, and can be rather dangerous.  Her anxiety issues might be enough that in a few strips, she'll be running whilst screaming from Marten, and not because of anything he's done.  Or that they otherwise torpedo the potential boat here. 

And if anyone wants to fuck with me for saying that dating people with anxiety issues may be difficult, I say bring it.  I have those kind of issues personally, and take several drugs, including Clonazepam for them.  I may not know much about trans* issues, but I know a lot about anxiety, and how if it's not fully managed, it can destroy relationships or even prevent good ones from happening in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 04:48
Marten and Claire don't seem to regard anything in their medical histories as an elephant in the room. It's entirely their place to decide.
There *is* something about Claire's medical history that may be of relevance here, and it isn't the one that people have been screeching about.  Girl takes Ativan.  That's not the kind of medication that responsible doctors hand out lightly, due to the fact that benzos are highly addictive, and can be rather dangerous.  Her anxiety issues might be enough that in a few strips, she'll be running whilst screaming from Marten, and not because of anything he's done.  Or that they otherwise torpedo the potential boat here. 

And if anyone wants to fuck with me for saying that dating people with anxiety issues may be difficult, I say bring it.  I have those kind of issues personally, and take several drugs, including Clonazepam for them.  I may not know much about trans* issues, but I know a lot about anxiety, and how if it's not fully managed, it can destroy relationships or even prevent good ones from happening in the first place.

I got the impression from the time she mentioned it that it wasn't a regular thing, and she only took it when she really needed it.  Is Ativan an "as needed" medication?   
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 27 Sep 2014, 04:54
Yes.  It's highly addictive, so people who aren't drug-seekers, and doctors who aren't catering to such are *very* careful to make sure that it isn't taken unless needed, as in going into major freak-out mode without it.  I'm on a drug in the same class, and whilst due to the severity of my anxiety issues, I *do* tend to take it most days, it's still an as needed thing, or something I take before going into situations where I know I'd have a major freak-out without it. 

Edit:
I actually got switched to Klonopin(Clonazepam) from Ativan(Lorazepam) because the former has a much longer half-life, and since I do need to take it rather frequently, it's better to take a drug that I only have to take once a day than one I have to take 3x/day, due to the possibility of it causing dependency. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 27 Sep 2014, 05:21
Which is why I'm quite happy to not have been given Lorazepam (Ativan) for my panic attacks, but Opipramol, a tricyclic antidepressant with immediate effect, on a per need base. I am extremely scared of anything that could make me addicted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 27 Sep 2014, 05:23
As am I, which is one of the reasons I got switched to a *stronger* benzo, which is less addictive due to its much longer half life.  Then again, if we were going to scale anxiety on a scale from "normal" to "Hanners", with Claire somewhere in the middle, I'm much closer to "Hanners" in severity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Sep 2014, 06:25
Many people's complaints about the limited appearance of some characters might (just might) be lessened if Jeph wrote ten strips a day...

Three words: Not. A. Chance. ;)

EDIT: Oh noes, I made it page 14!  :-o :-o  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Sep 2014, 06:50
Many people's complaints about the limited appearance of some characters might (just might) be lessened if Jeph wrote ten strips a day...

Three words: Not. A. Chance. ;)

EDIT: Oh noes, I made it page 14!  :-o :-o  :psyduck:
Willis could write 9 of them, but I'm not sure people would like the result...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 06:52
Our Benevolent Comic Overlord could go stick figure to crank out the comics, but after the reaction to the recent style experiments, people might fling themselves and/or Jeph off of tall buildings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 27 Sep 2014, 06:56
No, after the complaints/diatribes on "other" social media, Jeph would throw himself off a building. 



Reporting from the Oktoberfest bunker using an AT&T wall phone. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 07:19
There are some amazing people here.

I've only had one experience with Anxiety - "Adjustment Disorder". Highly disabling, very acute, I qualified for the highest level of disability benefits according to the tests. But.. it went as quickly as it came, no need for meds. It did give me an insight into what some go through though on a more long-term basis. Dry mouth 24/7, uncontrollable tremors, heart palpitations, complete inability to concentrate, drive, or even walk more than a few paces. Any sudden noise would have me jumping into a corner in a foetal position screaming before I knew what was happening. 5 weeks of it was more than enough. Cognitive therapy was right out, as my situation was truly dire, my reaction to it unhelpful rather than unjustified (which angered me immensely). When the underlying problem went away (those responsible were caught on camera carrying one of the bodies), so did the symptoms.

Those in Sydney who are familiar with the story in the headlines about bent ex-coppers will know who I refer to.

So to see such courage, such quiet heroism, from others here, it rather blows me away.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 27 Sep 2014, 07:22
In what sense were the ex-coppers bent?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 27 Sep 2014, 07:33
In what sense were the ex-coppers bent?
Given that it's Australian slang; corrupt, abusing their power, on the take. That sort of thing. Probably.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Srxjo on 27 Sep 2014, 07:35
In what sense were the ex-coppers bent?

I'm guessing he means corrupt since he mentioned about carrying a body and not bent like the new iPhone 6.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Sep 2014, 07:37
In what sense were the ex-coppers bent?
Given that it's Australian slang; corrupt, abusing their power, on the take. That sort of thing. Probably.
I imagine hedgie was asking more about what they were doing.
The last news story I heard about Australian police was how at least two detectives had been charged with the murder of a student and had been involved with a major criminal and the drugs trade, so I'm wondering if that's what ZoeB is referring to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 27 Sep 2014, 08:04
Still squeeing. My roommate thinks our AC unit is damaged from the high pitched sound in our apartment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bryntheskits on 27 Sep 2014, 08:18
I'm not quite on the level of squee, but I am sitting here in a happy glow at the fact that the SS Martéclaire looks ready to be launched.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 27 Sep 2014, 08:20
In what sense were the ex-coppers bent?

I'm guessing he means corrupt since he mentioned about carrying a body and not bent like the new iPhone 6.

She, if you're referring to ZoeB.

I gladly acknowledge that I was completely wrong in my prediction that nothing would happen with Claire and Marten. It will be interesting to see what happens next!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 27 Sep 2014, 08:23
Aye, it will.  Between the two of them there are a lot of potential minefields, so in the midst of SQUEEE!!!!!!!!  we all have to wait to see what (if anything) happens.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 27 Sep 2014, 08:26
*goes to bask in May's wrongness*

(http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1388905695602991.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 27 Sep 2014, 09:05
Wow, fuck the selective censorship on this forum. I mean, I was kinda looking forward to further replying to Valdis' extremely comprehensive and enlightening reply, but all of that seems to have been purged. I understand wanting to be sensitive to some individuals, and yeah, fuck the obvious trolls but when you allow accusations of transphobia but don't allow those on the business end of that accusation to defend themselves and clarify what they mean, it just looks like rank hypocrisy.

Or maybe you had to make more room for Squeee posts or speculation about "Is Jephzibah trolling us, lolz?" You know, the important stuff. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 09:08
It all got moved to Discuss, dude.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Sep 2014, 09:12
Wow, fuck the selective censorship on this forum. I mean, I was kinda looking forward to further replying to Valdis' extremely comprehensive and enlightening reply, but all of that seems to have been purged. I understand wanting to be sensitive to some individuals, and yeah, fuck the obvious trolls but when you allow accusations of transphobia but don't allow those on the business end of that accusation to defend themselves and clarify what they mean, it just looks like rank hypocrisy.

Or maybe you had to make more room for Squeee posts or speculation about "Is Jephzibah trolling us, lolz?" You know, the important stuff.
Those posts haven't been deleted. They're here (http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30119.0.html).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aimless on 27 Sep 2014, 09:13
A large number of posts have been moved to a dedicated thread in the DISCUSS forum. If you have a contribution to make to the discussion that you believe is valuable and helpful, you may go there. If you just wish to defend yourself then I suspect squeeing may be a more enjoyable use of your time :) peace

EDIT: What they said ^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Sep 2014, 09:13
Wow, fuck the selective censorship on this forum. I mean, I was kinda looking forward to further replying to Valdis' extremely comprehensive and enlightening reply, but all of that seems to have been purged. I understand wanting to be sensitive to some individuals, and yeah, fuck the obvious trolls but when you allow accusations of transphobia but don't allow those on the business end of that accusation to defend themselves and clarify what they mean, it just looks like rank hypocrisy.

Or maybe you had to make more room for Squeee posts or speculation about "Is Jephzibah trolling us, lolz?" You know, the important stuff. 
You can think whatever you like, but there have been times when this forum has been extremely....volatile to put it lightly. To such an extent that Jeph has pretty much stopped coming to the forum anymore. The mods have spent quite a lot of time trying to bring things back to a civilised point, but as we've seen, things do flare up at certain points. Things can and do turn nasty for a brief period.

Besides which, the discussion going on here was really venturing far away from the comic, which is what this particular part of the forum is for. The discussion from yesterday has been moved to a more appropriate section of the forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 27 Sep 2014, 09:14
It all got moved to Discuss, dude.

I see. Well in that case, I respectfully change my position on the matter to "aphanisis81 is a reactionary dickhead."

Sorry, y'all. I thought this was a full-on deletion of posts, especially after threats last night of "Swift mod reactions."

Mea culpa.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 27 Sep 2014, 09:30
The mods here don't seem to trounce posts unless they are non-constructive (read: quite fucking destructive) to a particular topic (in this case, gender identity and sexuality).

Between yesterday and today I didn't see half the thread disappear myself, aphanisis81, so I was as surprised as you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 27 Sep 2014, 09:39
It is rare to see posts edited or deleted here, however sensitive topics or topics meriting their own threat will be moved to such as a matter of standard policy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: aphanisis81 on 27 Sep 2014, 09:46
It is rare to see posts edited or deleted here, however sensitive topics or topics meriting their own threat will be moved to such as a matter of standard policy.

Fair enough. I am now horrified at the full-throttle ass-holeishness of my initial "Selective censorship" post above. I appreciate being able to continue the conversation in a forum dedicated solely to it.

*slinks away*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 27 Sep 2014, 09:52
It's cool. Given the state of the internet these days, there's specialty doctors out there for removing feet from mouths.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Barmymoo on 27 Sep 2014, 09:57
Thank you for apologising. For information for everyone, there have been three non-spam posts deleted in the last two months. One broke the no-shipping rule, one was an obvious troll spouting insults at everyone, and one was a bizarre totally off-topic post that was probably the precursor to spamming. On rare occasions a mod might alter a post to remove a personal insult from an otherwise worthwhile post, but otherwise what you see is what is there.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 27 Sep 2014, 10:01
Is it me or has has Claire gradually gotten prettier? I sort of miss her big goofy super bookworm look. I guess maybe she's gotten more relaxed, more work into appearance and of course art evolution.

Still, I just hope she doesn't go full hot librarian and remains a cute nerdy librarian in training.

And those glasses better stick around at least half the time!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 27 Sep 2014, 10:09
Is it me or has has Claire gradually gotten prettier? I sort of miss her big goofy super bookworm look. I guess maybe she's gotten more relaxed, more work into appearance and of course art evolution.

Still, I just hope she doesn't go full hot librarian and remains a cute nerdy librarian in training.

And those glasses better stick around at least half the time!

Nerd is a state of mind, dammit. Glasses or no glasses, she's still a nerd and (hopefully) proud of it. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aimless on 27 Sep 2014, 10:25
I think that's almost all art-evolution although Claire's style-evolution may be a part of it. I don't think I can recall anyone in QC art-evolving into "hot librarian" stereotype though :o

Moderator Comment I mod-edit all the time, but only my own posts :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 27 Sep 2014, 10:26
I at least have an excuse. The one time I was in a remarkably similar situation, we ended up engaged within a few weeks, married after a sensible 1-year delay. It's our 34th anniversary in February.

Same here, married exactly 1 year later. 30 years happily married this past January.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Sep 2014, 10:27
Actually, there have been two posts deleted from this thread. One dropped a strong hint at a toxic slur. The other was classic hate and I just perma-banned the author and the IP he rode in on. Other mods caught both of them, thank you for your alertness.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 27 Sep 2014, 10:30
If this goes the way a lot of us are expecting, I'm suddenly hoping that Marten's way of finding out Tai knows about him and Claire is Tai simply giving him a "She Blinded Me with Library Science" t-shirt like the one she was wearing when they first met, and just smirking her ass off.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 27 Sep 2014, 10:33
Yeah I guess there's some art evolution in there. I mean look at her first appearance.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2203

Someone give her something to eat! If there's room for sheer adorableness then it is well hidden, along with the puns.

If there is a ship sailing or signs leading to it come next week I plan to binge read from Martin's break up to now just for sheer Claire and Marten interaction. Oh what the heck no matter what I'll binge read it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 10:39
Actually, there have been two posts deleted from this thread. One dropped a strong hint at a toxic slur. The other was classic hate and I just perma-banned the author and the IP he rode in on. Other mods caught both of them, thank you for your alertness.
That's how we know you do a good job: when we don't even notice that such things had happened at all.
If this goes the way a lot of us are expecting, I'm suddenly hoping that Marten's way of finding out Tai knows about him and Claire is Tai simply giving him a "She Blinded Me with Library Science" t-shirt like the one she was wearing when they first met, and just smirking her ass off.
I didn't even know how much I wanted this to happen. That would be absolutely hilarious! Which means it's never happen because it's been posted about out in the open. Ah well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 10:45
If this goes the way a lot of us are expecting, I'm suddenly hoping that Marten's way of finding out Tai knows about him and Claire is Tai simply giving him a "She Blinded Me with Library Science" t-shirt like the one she was wearing when they first met, and just smirking her ass off.

 (https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0256/84/1372391550804.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 27 Sep 2014, 10:59
Her anxiety issues might be enough that in a few strips, she'll be running whilst screaming from Marten, and not because of anything he's done.  Or that they otherwise torpedo the potential boat here. 

And if anyone wants to fuck with me for saying that dating people with anxiety issues may be difficult, I say bring it.

I would just comment that Jeph also has severe anxiety issues, so should be able to handle that decently if he finds it relevant to his story.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Sep 2014, 11:10
If there is a ship sailing or signs leading to it come next week I plan to binge read from Martin's break up to now just for sheer Claire and Marten interaction.

Yeah, done that twice already, decided to start from 0001 and am in the low 1500s now.  Weekend's shot, thanks so much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zwammy on 27 Sep 2014, 11:24
Yeah, done that twice already, decided to start from 0001 and am in the low 1500s now.  Weekend's shot, thanks so much.

Not the worst way to spend a weekend by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HES on 27 Sep 2014, 11:45
The worst part of binge reading is reaching the end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 27 Sep 2014, 11:49
"You're at the last comic." What? There are no more!?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Srxjo on 27 Sep 2014, 11:59
"You're at the last comic." What? There are no more!?

Nope, Jeph wanted to leave this comic on this lovely moment and focus on his new comic (I am joking if you can't tell)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Sep 2014, 12:07
I know that this actually isn't the end of QC, but I've been thinking that it would be awesomely ironic to end QC with the line "Don't EVER stop."  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SteveCostello on 27 Sep 2014, 12:17
The worst part of binge reading is reaching the end.

Indeed. I started QC with 2644 (Claire's pun on liking Faye's Book). After a friend posted the link to that on Faye's boo... er... Facebook, I spent a stupid amount of time the following weekend reading ALL of the comics starting with numero uno.

And now time passing in the comic feels glacial. The suspense with this story arc is killing me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 27 Sep 2014, 12:34
OK, somebody needs to do the WCT/Poll for next week as I'm fresh outta ideas



What??



At least I'm honest about it!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Sep 2014, 13:00
Dream
Mistake (Marten)
Mistake (Claire)
Mistake (halfpint (?!))
Couple (!!!)
Yelling Bird
Butts

Yeah, I know, I got like zero time on the pond with you guys, but it seems like that's how it breaks down.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Sep 2014, 13:24
OK, somebody needs to do the WCT/Poll for next week as I'm fresh outta ideas

What??

At least I'm honest about it!!!

I might be able to do it, but work has been very fickle as of late.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SteveCostello on 27 Sep 2014, 13:33
Dream
Mistake (Marten)
Mistake (Claire)
Mistake (halfpint (?!))
Couple (!!!)
Yelling Bird
Butts


Cereal
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Sep 2014, 13:42
Quote
Cereal

Crap, I knew I forgot something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 27 Sep 2014, 13:47
Pintsize's name is Pintsize, not Halfpint.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Sep 2014, 13:52
Quote
Pintsize's name is Pintsize, not Halfpint.

Dammit.  Guess it wouldn't work to say the word Mistake before his name was a double entendre?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 27 Sep 2014, 14:09
Pintsize's name is Pintsize, not Halfpint.
Of course! Pintsize is Pintsize's name while Halfpint is Halfpint's name!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Yelling Genie on 27 Sep 2014, 14:11
"The genie will answer one question and one question only."
"Each?"
No.

See you in the next page 15!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 14:20
That was well-played.

Well. We've done it. We've hit 15. As it's Saturday, we may well hit 20 before we're done.

As for the poll, the various variants of Mistake is missing one of its own: Mistake (Both of them.) Though, given how close Claire seems to just purring, I might suggest option: Cat
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 14:38
WHOA IT'S PAGE 15 WHAT

I think like 60% of this topic was just us squeeing.  I approve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Sep 2014, 15:21
I prophesied a genie and he has come. But, uh, what else was so important about page 15?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 15:38
I prophesied a genie and he has come. But, uh, what else was so important about page 15?
um, I think the goal of the OP was for this to reach page 15?
Anyways, let's get back to talking about how adorable Claire has been this week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 15:49
Anyways, let's get back to talking about how adorable Claire has been this week.
Super adorable.  Adorable to absurd, possibly dangerous levels.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Masterpiece on 27 Sep 2014, 16:49
OK, somebody needs to do the WCT/Poll for next week as I'm fresh outta ideas

What??

At least I'm honest about it!!!

I might be able to do it, but work has been very fickle as of late.
May I?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Sep 2014, 16:51
I prophesied a genie and he has come. But, uh, what else was so important about page 15?

Well, I'd say because page 15 makes it the third longest Comic Discussion thread in the forum. (The other two were during the Break-Up and When Marten Got Drunk And Despised His Role As The Nice Guy).

But generally speaking, 15 pages has become something of a running gag on the forum. Any time there's a potentially explosive storyline ongoing, someone usually declares "15 pages by Wednesday/Thursday". Never happens but hey, it's fun.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 16:53
How many options does the poll need?  We can just all throw out ideas til we find the best ones.  I suggest Steve Week: All Steve, All the Time.

I just realized that I have no idea what Steve's last name is.   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Sep 2014, 16:59
Steve has no last name. The US Department of Kicking Your Ass took it from him when he became an agent, and gave him a number instead. And they won't even tell him what the number is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Sep 2014, 17:01
His name is Steve N. Hawking.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 27 Sep 2014, 17:04
That's what they (you know ... THEM) want you to think. His last name is Crunch, and he holds the rank of Captain.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 17:05
That's what they (you know ... THEM) want you to think. His last name is Crunch, and he holds the rank of Captain.
Headcanon accepted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 17:36
That's what they (you know ... THEM) want you to think. His last name is Crunch, and he holds the rank of Captain.
Headcanon accepted.
And the cereal fairy is his second-in-command on his ship.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 17:45
How many options does the poll need?  We can just all throw out ideas til we find the best ones.  I suggest Steve Week: All Steve, All the Time.

I just realized that I have no idea what Steve's last name is.   :psyduck:
He has to get through that year's supply of cereal somehow. Just... please no Steve Year, however much more adequately it would deal with the absurd surplus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 27 Sep 2014, 17:53
That's what they (you know ... THEM) want you to think. His last name is Crunch, and he holds the rank of Captain.
Headcanon accepted.
And the cereal fairy is his second-in-command on his ship.
I demand fan art.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 17:56
I, for one, wish for the next week to be nothing but Claire blushing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 17:59
If we get a full week of one thing, that's the most likely one thing to given a full week, too. Good on you, making the easy guess.  :mrgreen: Also, the adorable guess.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 18:05
This WCDT has an odd lack of pun trains.  I haven't had a chance to use   :claireface:!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 27 Sep 2014, 18:07
OK, somebody needs to do the WCT/Poll for next week as I'm fresh outta ideas

What??

At least I'm honest about it!!!

I might be able to do it, but work has been very fickle as of late.
May I?

Go for it. We have 10 suggestions for a poll (plus I would add: "SQUEEEEEEEE!!!!").
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 18:11
After all the squeeing done in this thread, and implied by the forum description, there's no way that option can't be included.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 18:11
Go for it. We have 10 suggestions for a poll (plus I would add: "SQUEEEEEEEE!!!!").
I like this option.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Sep 2014, 18:21
I'll be happy for them if they just stay snugglebuddies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 18:24
I'll be happy for them if they just stay snugglebuddies.
But Claire's blushies are psychic.  They foretell that something either amazing or depressing will happen soon.
We cannot stay complacent with this.  We must Wildly Mass Guess! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WildMassGuessing) (warning: TV Tropes link)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 18:33
I'll be happy for them if they just stay snugglebuddies.
Same. It's a good place to be, and it'll still be all kinds of adorable, and there's still room for wacky hijinks as Faye would likely read more into it. My disappointment would come if Marten has an attack of the awkward after being so at ease these past two strips... and we all know that's very likely.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 18:50
The last news story I heard about Australian police was how at least two detectives had been charged with the murder of a student and had been involved with a major criminal and the drugs trade, so I'm wondering if that's what ZoeB is referring to.
They were "business associates" of the highly transphobic ex-cop giving me grief, yes. It wasn't so much him I was worried about, it was them. The more I found out about his "business partners", the more concerned for my family I became. However, the threat has receded.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 18:55
I am now horrified at the full-throttle ass-holeishness of my initial "Selective censorship" post above. I appreciate being able to continue the conversation in a forum dedicated solely to it.

*slinks away*

If that's the worst thing you ever do, you're doing far better than me! Don't worry about it. The mods are pretty darned good, and don't take offence at innocent mistakes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Sep 2014, 19:01
This WCDT has an odd lack of pun trains.  I haven't had a chance to use   :claireface:!
That would be a de-rail, surely? Right now, everyone has a one track mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 19:03
This WCDT has an odd lack of pun trains.  I haven't had a chance to use   :claireface:!
That would be a de-rail, surely? Right now, everyone has a one track mind.
I'm sure if we keep chugging along, we'll get into a nice rhythm.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 19:07
This WCDT has an odd lack of pun trains.  I haven't had a chance to use   :claireface:!
That would be a de-rail, surely? Right now, everyone has a one track mind.
I'm sure if we keep chugging along, we'll get into a nice rhythm.
Does this mean that this topic has gone off the tracks?  :claireface:
I am satisfied now, that was a mediocre pun but I got to use the claireface yaaay
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 27 Sep 2014, 19:12
That's what they (you know ... THEM) want you to think. His last name is Crunch, and he holds the rank of Captain.
Headcanon accepted.
And the cereal fairy is his second-in-command on his ship.
Is this ship allowed in the forum?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 19:14
That's what they (you know ... THEM) want you to think. His last name is Crunch, and he holds the rank of Captain.
Headcanon accepted.
And the cereal fairy is his second-in-command on his ship.
Is this ship allowed in the forum?
I don't know... are literal ships banned too?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 19:16
I'm sure there's an exception for literal ships, so long as they follow the law of the sea. (There is a further exception for pirate ships, who need not follow any law... but succumb quickly to scurvy.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 27 Sep 2014, 19:23
OK, somebody needs to do the WCT/Poll for next week as I'm fresh outta ideas

What??

At least I'm honest about it!!!

I might be able to do it, but work has been very fickle as of late.
May I?

[LurchVoice] You maaay [/LurchVoice]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 27 Sep 2014, 19:24
Man, and I thought I was eager for a Sunday comic last week!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 19:26
I'm sure there's an exception for literal ships, so long as they follow the law of the sea. (There is a further exception for pirate ships, who need not follow any law... but succumb quickly to scurvy.)
that text is so tiny, I had to set my zoom to 500% to see it
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 27 Sep 2014, 19:28
Arrrrrr
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 27 Sep 2014, 19:32
I'm sure there's an exception for literal ships, so long as they follow the law of the sea. (There is a further exception for pirate ships, who need not follow any law... but succumb quickly to scurvy.)
that text is so tiny, I had to set my zoom to 500% to see it
Or you can hit Quote and read the comment in the box.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 27 Sep 2014, 19:34
has anyone made that Captain Steve fanart yet?
I would, but I have no idea how to draw ships.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Sep 2014, 19:37
Or you can hit Quote and read the comment in the box.

I copy/paste in the address bar.

But you can do the small text joke without going that small to the same effect.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Sep 2014, 19:49
A milder form of the small text has now been implemented. Apologies for the minor stir I caused.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 27 Sep 2014, 21:11
Barroom Blitz


Pugnacious Peach Pugilistic Punchout ........ 7 (6.7%)
Claire Crimson Cheek Continuation ........ 51 (49%)
Marten Mainly Mumbles Methodiclly ........ 5 (4.8%)
Steve Swallows Serially ........ 2 (1.9%)
Battling Bianchi Battlezone ........ 4 (3.8%)
Tai Terrorizes Tall Twin ........ 5 (4.8%)
Jeph Jacques Japes ........ 8 (7.7%)
Waffling Waffles Wander Wonderingly ........ 3 (2.9%)
Butts ........ 19 (18.3%)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 27 Sep 2014, 23:42


Go for it. We have 10 suggestions for a poll (plus I would add: "SQUEEEEEEEE!!!!").

Poll options:
SQUEEE!
SQUEEEEEE!!
SQUEEEEEEEEE!!!
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: reicreature on 28 Sep 2014, 01:49
Whoo! 15 pages!
I knew we could do it!  :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 28 Sep 2014, 02:45
And we were so close to making a 16th page too (only 7 posts to go). Can we make it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 28 Sep 2014, 05:10
[Obama]Yes, we can.[/Obama]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Sep 2014, 05:32
No we can't.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 28 Sep 2014, 05:58
aww man.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 28 Sep 2014, 06:10
So my fiance and I AREN'T the only ones that do this. >w<;

Also, there may be a lot of squeeing. Might be the scooter alarm again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 Sep 2014, 07:06
No we can't.
Maybe, I'm not too sure.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 28 Sep 2014, 08:08
Oh, OK, Fanart of the new headcan(n)on. Will post link over in fanart, too, but wanted to do my bit to get this to page 16.
Steve and his ship. (https://flic.kr/p/pr6Vkq)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Smashwidget on 28 Sep 2014, 08:13
Oh, OK, Fanart of the new headcan(n)on. Will post link over in fanart, too, but wanted to do my bit tp get this to page 16.
Steve and his ship. (https://flic.kr/p/pr6Vkq)
#1: This is saved to my hard drive now, thank you.
#2: YUS PAGE 16!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 Sep 2014, 08:41
#2: YUS PAGE 16!
Cheer if you can get another twenty pages into this thread. 36 pages is still the current record.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 28 Sep 2014, 09:10
What thread got 36 pages?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheEvilDog on 28 Sep 2014, 09:15
Break-up week. That was a week where you could read one page and four more would have cropped up.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: lummo on 28 Sep 2014, 09:25
My entire two cents - Jeph has recreated the "delicious quiver"  - more sensuous than all that great slipshinery - and gotten the audience contemplating it all weekend. 


Any other known details about the characters just heightens the sensation of contemplating the sensation.

These couple of strips are to porn what Alfred Hitchcock is to slasher films.

Damn you Jaques!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Comic Strip Critic on 28 Sep 2014, 09:32
Well, last year one of my fans suggested I read this. I took him up on that suggestion, and I have not regretted it one bit. I love this comic, have binged through the whole archive twice now, and like many others, all I have to say regarding this is:

Squee. Squee, squee, squee.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HES on 28 Sep 2014, 10:37
Break-up week. That was a week where you could read one page and four more would have cropped up.
Still got nothing on the thread that last made me join a forum. 196 pages in the first week (http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=101043)...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 28 Sep 2014, 10:54
Well, last year one of my fans suggested I read this. I took him up on that suggestion, and I have not regretted it one bit. I love this comic, have binged through the whole archive twice now, and like many others, all I have to say regarding this is:

Squee. Squee, squee, squee.

Here, have some oil!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TieDyeKat on 28 Sep 2014, 11:03
Oh, OK, Fanart of the new headcan(n)on. Will post link over in fanart, too, but wanted to do my bit to get this to page 16.
Steve and his ship. (https://flic.kr/p/pr6Vkq)

I always thought Steve was a little dinghy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 28 Sep 2014, 11:13
Replaces pun jar with a Klein bottle, to keep it from bursting from too many puns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 28 Sep 2014, 11:51
Oh, OK, Fanart of the new headcan(n)on. Will post link over in fanart, too, but wanted to do my bit to get this to page 16.
Steve and his ship. (https://flic.kr/p/pr6Vkq)

I always thought Steve was a little dinghy.

Well, I think it's a good first post. Welcome!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Sep 2014, 13:37
Wow, just caught up after a weekend away.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Sep 2014, 14:16
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Comic Strip Critic on 28 Sep 2014, 18:01
Welcome, new person!

Thank you, old geezer!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Method of Madness on 28 Sep 2014, 18:05
That's cold geezer :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 28 Sep 2014, 18:07
Gesundheit. 


Wait...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 28 Sep 2014, 18:15
... Turns to snow in his clutch. He's too much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Platypodes on 28 Sep 2014, 21:20
Oh, OK, Fanart of the new headcan(n)on. Will post link over in fanart, too, but wanted to do my bit to get this to page 16.
Steve and his ship. (https://flic.kr/p/pr6Vkq)
That is absolutely brilliant.  All the details cracked me up.

 :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 28 Sep 2014, 21:40
That was pretty good, DSL. Loved it :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 12 Oct 2014, 03:38
One question occurs to me: Why is Claire's head itchy?  Are there going to be nit combs in the near future?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Oct 2014, 07:44
One question occurs to me: Why is Claire's head itchy?  Are there going to be nit combs in the near future?

It wasn't itchy; she'd just had it tied back for a while and she was trying to relax her scalp.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 12 Oct 2014, 08:31
She's letting her hair down (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LettingHerHairDown). (WARNING: TVTropes link). The only other time we've seen her let her hair down is the notorious bedroom scene (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2405) after the wedding reception.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Oct 2014, 08:37
One question occurs to me: Why is Claire's head itchy?  Are there going to be nit combs in the near future?

Or she has a dry scalp. Or she just likes getting her head scratched. If an SO or female who is close to me scratches the right spot behind my ear it literally shuts me down mentally, cause it's tongue lolling good. Imagine the face a dog pulls when it gets ear scratches. That's how I feel when I get head scratches.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Oct 2014, 08:52
She's letting her hair down (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LettingHerHairDown). (WARNING: TVTropes link).
That's not quite the right trope, I'd go with shaking her hair loose (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShakingHerHairLoose).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 12 Oct 2014, 09:02
She's letting her hair down (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LettingHerHairDown). (WARNING: TVTropes link).
That's not quite the right trope, I'd go with shaking her hair loose (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShakingHerHairLoose).

Yeah, in terms of TVTrope's taxonomy that's more on the mark. But "letting one's hair down" is a more widespread idiom (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/let+hair+down).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2796-2800 (22-26 September 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 20 Oct 2014, 08:59
She's letting her hair down (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LettingHerHairDown). (WARNING: TVTropes link).

That's not quite the right trope, I'd go with shaking her hair loose (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShakingHerHairLoose).

With accompanying saxaphone music when seen from Marten's POV, of course.