I'm pretty sure if I post this I'm gonna kill the old thread, but we reached our goal of 15 pages, wasn't that what you all wanted?
You forgot SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm not voting until this option is up.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-z4VxUCcXvRA/UWG0wkcJH9I/AAAAAAAAHFQ/IYHU-lrw5PE/s200/bill_hicks_image.jpg)
And now we wait.
Let's just call last week The Squeeeeinng and be done with it...FTFY.
By the way, here's the comics for this week:
Monday - Steve eats cereal.
Tuesday - A sandwich eats Cosette.
Wednesday - Marigold eats spathe ham.
Thursday - Yelling Bird eats a Hot Pocket
Friday - Tai eats a pop tart then gets a toaster pastry.
I think it'll probably be mistakes all around, but a small but very silly part of me still hopes for alpacapocalypse.
I didn't add "it's a dream", because Jeph said he wouldn't do tropes like that. As for the other options, hold on...So Emily actually caught mice for Marten?
edit: there ya go.
There's a difference between "dream" and "imagined during conversation"I didn't add "it's a dream", because Jeph said he wouldn't do tropes like that. As for the other options, hold on...So Emily actually caught mice for Marten?
edit: there ya go.
So Emily actually caught mice for Marten?That was strip #2757 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2757). When we discussed it at that time, most agreed that this was just an imagined scenario in Marten's (or Hannelore's) head.
So Emily actually caught mice for Marten?That was strip #2757 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2757). When we discussed it at that time, most agreed that this was just an imagined scenario in Marten's (or Hannelore's) head.
But another statement from Marten in the same strip was that he would not let himself be involved with an intern who had a crush on him. Time will show.
Strip #2653 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2653) might be relevant in the current context. Claire got upset when learning about the Delilah affair.
Ye gawds, can we please not have any golden apples thrown into the party this week?
Pretty please?
Nice poll, Masterpiece!Why thank you! First time I opened a WCDT, and I'm amazed at our regulars who almost always come up with hilarious polls.
Discussions about the implications of Claire's gender status on her potential relationship with Marten are now off-limits. Marten and Claire are fictional characters. Jeph will reveal whatever he wants to tell us about their relationship through the comic. Speculation hurts real people who are members of this community and it is quite clear from the last few days that it's not possible for this sort of discussion to take place without that hurt occurring.Will it still be allowed to discuss the impact of potential psychological || psychiactric issues that may arise? I have brought them up before, and I can't speak for others who have them as well, I can certainly say that they're probably more relevant to the discussion to how things evolve. Also, the replies haven't been as viscerally nasty, so I don't think that at this moment, that the mod-hammer needs to come down on them.
the replies haven't been as viscerally nasty
What part of off-limits is hard to understand?I know one thing that is off-limits, and was just enquiring about another thing that may be potentially hurtful to some people, but even though I can't speak for the class of people who have psych* issues, I am a member of it, so I know what minefields that could potentially show up. I'm 100% behind the mods on their decision here.
Surely we'll be seeing Clinton in the near future.Still fit the scene in that something that looks real actually isn't.There's a difference between "dream" and "imagined during conversation"I didn't add "it's a dream", because Jeph said he wouldn't do tropes like that. As for the other options, hold on...So Emily actually caught mice for Marten?
edit: there ya go.
Surely we'll be seeing Clinton in the near future.
Regarding the poll options: Wouldn't it be a hell of a joke on all of us if Tortura was actually Sara? The scar could've come from fighting off the allosaurus, which was in turn part of her deep cover...
Yeah, I know, it's a stretch. As you were.
Regarding the poll options: Wouldn't it be a hell of a joke on all of us if Tortura was actually Sara? The scar could've come from fighting off the allosaurus, which was in turn part of her deep cover...
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And now we wait.
If you're waiting for Bill, you're going to be waiting a very long time...
This better not crash and burn!
It's life, everything crashes and burns sooner or later. It helps if you imagine James Taylor playing Fire And Rain, somehow lessens the impact.
This better not crash and burn!The odds are stacked against this particular vessel, we must not give up hope though!
Dinosaur evolves into chicken, is eaten by Marten and Faye.
This is my reaction to seeing Monday's comic:
http://i.imgur.com/Ou6be3R.png
(shirt relevant)
I haven't been following this forum much lately, and only jumped on because of the last week's shenanigans, so forgive me if I'm bringing up a topic that's already been discussed...but has anyone brought up what Clinton's reaction would be if Marten and Claire became a thing??? It just hit me that Mr. Overprotective Big Brother would likely have some strong feelings on the matter, one way or the other.
One thing I do worry about... after Claire sleeps on this, her anxieties may have a chance to flare up. And, she may hide behind the "OK, that was a mistake, we work together, this isn't professional" excuse. Especially if she finds out that he's using that same excuse for not dating Emily (when it's actually a case of him not wanting to date Emily)...
Ankh, I could ask you the same question.
Personally, I'm hoping that they decide to try for a relationship, and take it on a long, slow burn. All of Marten's past relationships and one-night stands (Dora, Padma, Delilah) have been very "suddenly-jump-in-the-deep-end". Perhaps taking things slower will be better for him.
Ankh, I could ask you the same question.
I just woke up. I went to bed at 20:00.
Personally, I'm hoping that they decide to try for a relationship, and take it on a long, slow burn. All of Marten's past relationships and one-night stands (Dora, Padma, Delilah) have been very "suddenly-jump-in-the-deep-end". Perhaps taking things slower will be better for him.
Huh. I hadn't thought of that. I don't know how much of the Dora-Marten breakup had to do with the suddenness of Dora smooches, but it is a suspiciously common factor in his relationships thus far. Then again, the creation of webcomic drama is also a suspiciously common factor as well.
Masterpiece: That sucks, man.Personally, I'm hoping that they decide to try for a relationship, and take it on a long, slow burn. All of Marten's past relationships and one-night stands (Dora, Padma, Delilah) have been very "suddenly-jump-in-the-deep-end". Perhaps taking things slower will be better for him.
Huh. I hadn't thought of that. I don't know how much of the Dora-Marten breakup had to do with the suddenness of Dora smooches, but it is a suspiciously common factor in his relationships thus far. Then again, the creation of webcomic drama is also a suspiciously common factor as well.
The suddenness had a large impact on Marten and Dora. Dora never could get rid of the anxieties that Marten just went for Dora because he couldn't get Faye. It's why they broke up in the end.
Starting a little slower might be a great way to avoid that kind of drama.
I can't sleep.Clowns will eat you?
I hope it does. They both deserve it.I can't sleep.Clowns will eat you?
I like to think Claire looked up and saw the drunk bubbles, which is what led her to call it off.
As for Claire/Marten...I dunno. It might work. It might not. (shrugs)
I can't sleep.Clowns will eat you?
Personally, I'm hoping that they decide to try for a relationship, and take it on a long, slow burn. All of Marten's past relationships and one-night stands (Dora, Padma, Delilah) have been very "suddenly-jump-in-the-deep-end". Perhaps taking things slower will be better for him.That being said, his one night stand with Delilah (why, why, why) was more about he wanted to get out of a funk and perhaps have some fun by just having a one night stand. It wasn't so much jumping in the deep end as it was cannonballing off the jump board for once in his life.
4chan reads qcverse?
Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.I figured whatever was keeping you up will seem not so bad compared to that.
"In vino, veritas" is bullshit, though. Sure, some truths come out that wouldn't otherwise, but also some falsehoods come out (and we know damn well how that works with Marten).
But, really, he didn't get raging drunk, he seems in control of his faculties... I think he is interested in Claire.
One thing I do worry about... after Claire sleeps on this, her anxieties may have a chance to flare up. And, she may hide behind the "OK, that was a mistake, we work together, this isn't professional" excuse. Especially if she finds out that he's using that same excuse for not dating Emily (when it's actually a case of him not wanting to date Emily)...
Ankh, I could ask you the same question.
I just woke up. I went to bed at 20:00.
I can't sleep.
I have a habit of picturing everything that I hear or read and now I see you dressed as a clown watching me from my balcony door WHICH IS GENUINELY TERRIFYING!Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.I figured whatever was keeping you up will seem not so bad compared to that.
I have a habit of picturing everything that I hear or readOk then...puppies :wow: :wow:
So, I'm good with them calling it a night here! I'd expect Marten to get a pillow and a blanket for her on the couch (presuming it's after midnight and it's probably safer for her to crash there than for Marten to walk her home), then the two of them get breakfast and talk tomorrow.Marten's way too much of a gentleman to let her sleep on the couch, he'd be the one sleeping on the couch. But, yes, that is an excellent idea.
What falsehoods? Not saying there aren't any, just that I can't remember them off the top of my head. But yes, I think he's genuinely interested.http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818
But the not-dating-Emily part? Not sure I agree. I mean, it was never really settled that she was interested in him to begin with, first off, so it's not likely that he's told her that he isn't interested, much less his reasoning. Of course, that could be the other shoe dropping -- Emily deciding to clear the air within earshot of Claire, and some kind of drama ensuing as a result.Oh, I don't think Emily's been told, either, Marten's plan so far appears to be to just lay low and hope Emily actually isn't interested.
I have a habit of picturing everything that I hear or read and now I see you dressed as a clown watching me from my balcony door WHICH IS GENUINELY TERRIFYING!
What falsehoods? Not saying there aren't any, just that I can't remember them off the top of my head. But yes, I think he's genuinely interested.http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818
I haven't been following this forum much lately, and only jumped on because of the last week's shenanigans, so forgive me if I'm bringing up a topic that's already been discussed...but has anyone brought up what Clinton's reaction would be if Marten and Claire became a thing??? It just hit me that Mr. Overprotective Big Brother would likely have some strong feelings on the matter, one way or the other.
I think Clinton overreacting is a given but before Marten could act on it, Claire would have already put Clinton in his place.
I'd forgotten that, but I read it more as Marten being uncharacteristically asshole-ish than outright dishonest.But it's not really an "in vino, veritas", really, it's not who he really is, and not what he really wants to do.
Of course, Clinton also seems to be a poor judge of character, what with his initial reaction (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2325) to Claire telling Marten about herself and remark about Marten "not (being) such a bad guy after all". I can't see how someone would get that vibe from Marten, but I suppose that goes back to his concerns for his sister.One thing worth noting is how Clinton and Marten's first encounter went, though, from Clinton's perspective. Sure, Clinton was incredibly creepy. But, from Clinton's POV, Marten was abusive towards him (from everyone else's POV, rightfully so, but not Clinton's).
Still, I remember reading that strip and thinking...really, dude? You were incredibly creepy when we first met you, going way over the line more than once, and you've got it in your head that Marten's a bad guy? Again, I guess it's just the protectiveness kicking in, but man...glass houses, Clinton.
Of course, Clinton also seems to be a poor judge of character, what with his initial reaction (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2325) to Claire telling Marten about herself and remark about Marten "not (being) such a bad guy after all". I can't see how someone would get that vibe from Marten, but I suppose that goes back to his concerns for his sister.I was seeing this more of her brother thinking all guys are asses and Marten proving he wasn't, plus the whole "he wasn't a dick about it" thing was probably due to the reaction she might have gotten from others she told.
Sinking ship? Nah, not at all.Not sinking, half out of the water, half in, alive but needs help.
I have a habit of picturing everything that I hear or read and now I see you dressed as a clown watching me from my balcony door WHICH IS GENUINELY TERRIFYING!
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I'm calling this:
http://somethingpositive.net/sp02132004.shtml
You should SEE the low-boil shitstorm brewing for weeks on /co/.
Regarding the poll options: Wouldn't it be a hell of a joke on all of us if Tortura was actually Sara? The scar could've come from fighting off the allosaurus, which was in turn part of her deep cover...
Yeah, I know, it's a stretch. As you were.
Yay Claire and meaningful consent. ^_^
Consent is sexy.
Correction: Consent is obligatory.and therefore sexy by necessity, right?
Also it's interesting watching my shitty /co/usins saying stuff like "can't wait for the SJW backlash" over this.
p.s. cuddles plz
Consent is sexy.
Correction: Consent is obligatory.
(though Marten might over-think things when he sobers, I hope not).
Hopefully Claire's decision to stall the ship will help mitigate that.(though Marten might over-think things when he sobers, I hope not).
This is Marten we're talking about.
I'm impressed with Claire here. That was not an easy moment at which to think rationally and exercise self-control.Although I think it's actually her overthinking that saved her, here...
You could say that Claire is good at just plain thinking, but sometimes does it to excess. :-)I'm impressed with Claire here. That was not an easy moment at which to think rationally and exercise self-control.Although I think it's actually her overthinking that saved her, here...
I sense a tingling in The Force.I sense a presence returning!
It might be worth to mention, that Marten's idea of dating an intern goes further than just dating-a-coworker-trouble. It's rather a dating-a-superior-trouble. He's afraid that it might come off as him forcing the intern into a relationship through his position of power as superior.
Anybody else get the feeling that this will be derailed temporarily, only to be rekindled somewhere around #3,000?
I think he means cute as in "cute infant"* rather than "sexually attractive"...
*"Cute baby" would be more natural, but more ambiguous in-context.
Anybody else get the feeling that this will be derailed temporarily, only to be rekindled somewhere around #3,000?
If the story was a fakeout or if this ends up being drawn out I'll be pretty upset at being stringed along.
But, I think we're actually going somewhere. Marten wakes up tomorrow, obligatory week of 'Marten talks about his feelings with a friend', asks Claire out, boom, couple.
I'm impressed with Claire here. That was not an easy moment at which to think rationally and exercise self-control.
I think he means cute as in "cute infant"* rather than "sexually attractive"...
*"Cute baby" would be more natural, but more ambiguous in-context.
I'm impressed with Claire here. That was not an easy moment at which to think rationally and exercise self-control.
Dale and Marigold seem to have gone the way of Wil and Penelope, or Steve and Cosette. Once in a relationship, they are pretty much out of he story.Well, Marigold was featured not 50 strips ago. They're still relevant. Will, Penelope, Steve, and Cosette are all "minor" characters compared to Dale and Marigold.
Not a superior in any kind of sense that he's her boss, but he'd still be considered a supervisor by all reasonable definitions. In 2203 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2203), Tai saddled Marten with the responsibility of training the interns, which regardless of his actual job rank, made him their supervisor. Heck, that's what being a being a trainer *IS*.... and he would remain their supervisor for exactly as long as it remained his responsibility to train them. Once that responsibility is complete, however, he is no longer their supervisor, since he is no longer responsible for them. At no point in this does Marten's job rank need to change up or down during this process in any way.... it's just perfectly ordinary job responsibility evolution. Heck, I've trained new people at my job all the time that I have absolutely no kind of job rank over... but for the duration that I am training them, I'm still their supervisor, and I have a responsibility to train them to do their job to maximum effectiveness. It's really less of a superior position and much more of a leadership kind of thing really... but keeping all of the same ethical standards of professionalism would still apply.It might be worth to mention, that Marten's idea of dating an intern goes further than just dating-a-coworker-trouble. It's rather a dating-a-superior-trouble. He's afraid that it might come off as him forcing the intern into a relationship through his position of power as superior.
He is not her superior. He is a lowly unskilled helper. She is on the career track to become a librarian. She has way more status than him. Her superior must be some librarian. Marten has been given the task of showing her the ropes. He is not her boss.
Ya know, we hit page 2 before the comic was even up. If the ship makes it out of the harbor, we could hit like 50 pages by the end of the week.I came here to make a note of that, only to find I'd been ninja'd by two pages!
On a more related note, I noticed she isn't standing up to leave yet. :wink:
Will we get an arc with Marten courting and wooing Claire? Cause that would be great.
It's easy enough to put Momo or Tai as her supervisor, so there isn't any chain of command issue.
Dale and Marigold seem to have gone the way of Wil and Penelope, or Steve and Cosette. Once in a relationship, they are pretty much out of he story.Marten and Dora were not, Dora and Tai are not. But in a way you are right, because when two people are in a relationship, they have less time for their other friends. The QC storyline is all about friends interacting with each other.
And this is why I never behave reasonably. Of course, I have to admit that it rarely works out well in the long run, but damn that immediate gratification is awesome.
Will we get an arc with Marten courting and wooing Claire? Cause that would be great.Oh I'd love that
And this is why I never behave reasonably. Of course, I have to admit that it rarely works out well in the long run, but damn that immediate gratification is awesome.
It certainly can be, but Marten had that with Delilah, and it didn't work out too well for him.
Given what he learned from that experience, I think he'll be quite positive about Claire putting the brakes on. Not to stop completely, but to slow things down enough for both sides to be quite clear about what they want.
Agreed. Happened frequently with a former gf of mine, and anything I'd say further on the subject would belong in the kink or TMI threads.See you there, then :parrot:
THE NAME IS MARTEN WITH AN E PEOPLE
I'm not a mod, but discussion of what's going on with Claire's lady-parts is verboten.I *am* a mod, and discussion of what's going on with Claire's lady-parts is verboten.
For some reason, it just seems to have more gravitas in German than it does in English. Edit: The German term has also pretty much made it into English, as much as things like "angst", "weltschmertz", and "zeitgeist" have (yes, and I'm ignoring proper capitalisation here).I'm not a mod, but discussion of what's going on with Claire's lady-parts is verboten.I *am* a mod, and discussion of what's going on with Claire's lady-parts is verboten.
(For those of you not speaking German, that means forbidden.)
Marten apparently likes Claire for what she is: because she's attractive, clever, witty, likes him being around... whatever his reasons for being attracted to her, rather refreshingly it's NOT because of the expectation of a specific kind of sexual relationship. It might progress to some kind of mutually acceptable physical intimacy, but the details are irrelevant and none of our business.
If any sexual relations happen between the two, that is bound to come up between the two of themNope. Wrong. It might, but not every gal is into that. Even if they're in love, and if Jeph isn't portraying that, he's not the artist I know him to be.
Claire - you have to be the responsible adult now. That's difficult when the guy you find unbearably yummy is massaging your scalp so you're melting.
But.. he's not thinking clearly. OK, you aren't either.
Falling asleep in each other's arms is appropriate at this point though.
It might or might not be reasonable, but it is certainly sensible.Is there such a thing as a decision thats sensible, but not reasonable ?
For some reason, it just seems to have more gravitas in German than it does in English. Edit: The German term has also pretty much made it into English, as much as things like "angst", "weltschmertz", and "zeitgeist" have (yes, and I'm ignoring proper capitalisation here).
I *am* a mod, and discussion of what's going on with Claire's lady-parts is verboten.
(For those of you not speaking German, that means forbidden.)
[...]God, I hope that it remains unadressed in the comic. By not discussing it Jeph could show that it is none of our bloody business and that none of it matters to outsiders.
Regarding anatomy, only Claire and Marten would have NTK - need to know. I see no reason why they should share that with voyeurs in the readership.
Guys help
I'm reading 5 comics at the same time in my wait for the next strip :psyduck:
Also, even though they both went for chicken wings, the first panel of today's strip was worth the weight.
Funny thing is that my automatic spell-check has "verboten" accepted as an English word, but I don't know about the Danes. The stereotype is that German sounds like an "angry" language, and bands like Laibach and Rammstein play off this, but at least as a USAian, there really isn't any cultural baggage there. And English in general doesn't borrow words, but mugs them from people in an alley.For some reason, it just seems to have more gravitas in German than it does in English. Edit: The German term has also pretty much made it into English, as much as things like "angst", "weltschmertz", and "zeitgeist" have (yes, and I'm ignoring proper capitalisation here).
I *am* a mod, and discussion of what's going on with Claire's lady-parts is verboten.
(For those of you not speaking German, that means forbidden.)
Interesting that you would think it has more gravitas in German. We have a couple of those in Danish, but I thought they were caused by the occupation.
If you will excuse my spelling: "am strengsten verboten" and "dan haben wir andere methoden". "Most strictly forbidden", and "then we have ogther ways". Sounds more threatening in German.
4chan reads qcverse?
I'm not sure I have ever wanted two people to get together in a work of fiction more than these two. Trying to think of an example...
I'm not sure I have ever wanted two people to get together in a work of fiction more than these two. Trying to think of an example...
Chandler & Monica
Elliot and Tedd from El Goonish Shive. It has to happen.I'm not sure I have ever wanted two people to get together in a work of fiction more than these two. Trying to think of an example...
I have several, for my part... Neal and Sara (White Collar), Castle & Beckett (Castle), Ted and The Mother, Chandler & Monica... Mulder & Scully? Slick & 'Nique? Hmmm
the timing would be just about right for [ Emily ] to ask Claire's opinion on the mating plumage she's putting together as a prerequisite to asking Marten on a date.
This would be Claire's first kiss. I'm sure she rather have it with someone sober.
I wasn't a huge fan of this pairing. But then I realized that in this pairing, there is a high likelihood that Marten would be in the drivers seat, which would be an interesting perspective on a largely passive character.
Also, this is probably the most realistic outcome for this. This would be Claire's first kiss. I'm sure she rather have it with someone sober.
the timing would be just about right for [ Emily ] to ask Claire's opinion on the mating plumage she's putting together as a prerequisite to asking Marten on a date.
I really can't understand all this concern about Emily. Apart from throwing a house party once, she seems to me to be a side character providing occasional comic relief, a bit like Pintsize does but in human form.
The girl's completely bonkers.
So... er, yes, she might do that, but I doubt we'll be invited to take it too seriously.
I wasn't a huge fan of this pairing. But then I realized that in this pairing, there is a high likelihood that Marten would be in the drivers seat,...
Well so mutch for that... :DI wasn't a huge fan of this pairing. But then I realized that in this pairing, there is a high likelihood that Marten would be in the drivers seat,...
...for a change.
I really feel that Emily would make a more interesting match for Marten than Claire.Aparently wasn't ment to happen, also no shipping.
Also I'm new on to QC and just got caught up. Howdy, nice to meet you all!Welcome!
It might or might not be reasonable, but it is certainly sensible.Is there such a thing as a decision thats sensible, but not reasonable ?
But then I realized that in this pairing, there is a high likelihood that Marten would be in the drivers seat, which would be an interesting perspective on a largely passive character.
That reminds me of me and a friend of mine, we once spent nearly five minutes going: "After you!" "No after you!"...But then I realized that in this pairing, there is a high likelihood that Marten would be in the drivers seat, which would be an interesting perspective on a largely passive character.
'Where do you want to go tonight?'
'Where do YOU want to go tonight?'
'I'm cool with whatever you're up for'
'I'm up for anything'
I really feel that Emily would make a more interesting match for Marten than Claire.Aparently wasn't ment to happen, also no shipping.
Must sleep. I expect this place full of squees, butts, or chickens when I get back.
chickenThank you.
Claire may or may not stay the night.If she does, expect the Fayedozer to make some awkward assumptions in the morning
And now I can stop imagining some horrible scenario in which they make out and then the next morning Marty regrets it or doesn't remember it and Claire is devastated.
If she does, expect the Fayedozer to make some awkward assumptions in the morningI think Claire will somehow be gone before Faye re-enters the scene. Otherwise the awkwardness will be unbearable. I guess Faye will have questions for Marten, as well as encouragement and general advice.
I'm not sure I have ever wanted two people to get together in a work of fiction more than these two.
I'm just happy because (unless this goes absolutely to the dogs) regardless of the outcome I believe this cements Claire as one of the main cast.I damn well hope so!
Ah, poor Emily Azuma.It's never been established whether she actually has a crush on him, though.
It would've been nice for Marten clear up the Emily thing, but I guess she didn't really clear it up either. I still like to imagine she got real close to his cheek and said, "smooch."
Hope she's not crushed by the squeelationship
I'm pretty sure that Claire is already a member of the main cast. Do people mean that they hope she'll get a permanent job or something? Why would she not be considered main cast?
I think the Emily thing was a plot device presenting/reminding Marten's shouldn't-date-interns stance as an obstacle to be overcome in this arc.
Yeah it had totally slipped my mind that she has never been kissed. As someone with anxiety and who is also taking ativan I can totally relate to the fact that she might overthink kissing marten if he's been drinking the day after. "Did he really like me? Was it just the booze?" etc.
Yeah it had totally slipped my mind that she has never been kissed. As someone with anxiety and who is also taking ativan I can totally relate to the fact that she might overthink kissing marten if he's been drinking the day after. "Did he really like me? Was it just the booze?" etc.
She may think the same even without the kiss (IOW, might wonder how much of the flirtation was interest and how much is the alcohol talking). Of course, if she asks when he's sober and then he kisses her, that'd tend to clear things up. :)
Yeah it had totally slipped my mind that she has never been kissed. As someone with anxiety and who is also taking ativan I can totally relate to the fact that she might overthink kissing marten if he's been drinking the day after. "Did he really like me? Was it just the booze?" etc.
She may think the same even without the kiss (IOW, might wonder how much of the flirtation was interest and how much is the alcohol talking). Of course, if she asks when he's sober and then he kisses her, that'd tend to clear things up. :)
Aww, I can't see marten being that smooth to just kiss her, but I hope there will be at least some handholding :3
I'm still not liking this. Not because I don't think they could work as a couple, or any issues with trans people, but because I don't find Martin's behavior so far in character.
1. There's been plenty of foreshadowing that Claire likes Marten. There hasn't been even an inkling until last week that Marten felt anything for Claire. It just came totally out of left field.
2. No matter how drunk Martin is, his actions are totally out of character. He cannot be smooth. He's a "talk" guy, not an "action" guy.
If I had to compare it to anything, I'd say it seems (with a lot more drunkenness) to Martin's reaction to Dora's interest way back when. She liked him, and when approached, he was like "sure, girl, whatever!" I think Marten would basically happily nod along into a relationship with any of his female friends. His aimlessless in his professional life and his personal life are symptoms of the same basic attitude.
Still, that does not explain to me how an inebriated Marten was able to actually make a move on a lady without being awkward in the slightest. That's just not Marten.
Still, that does not explain to me how an inebriated Marten was able to actually make a move on a lady without being awkward in the slightest. That's just not Marten.
The suggestion that a socially awkward person, when drunk, will not make moves/be smooth is preposterous. Alcohol brings that out of a lot of people.I'm socially awkward sober, and I'm just as awkward (if not more so) drunk...
I'd take a good back-rub/head-scratch over a kiss most days. But that's just me.
Yeah it had totally slipped my mind that she has never been kissed. As someone with anxiety and who is also taking ativan I can totally relate to the fact that she might overthink kissing marten if he's been drinking the day after. "Did he really like me? Was it just the booze?" etc. and taking the initiative to say the kiss shouldn't happen under such circumstances shows a pretty good awareness of her own mental health issues and what scenario this happens in will make her happiest and worry the least."Did he really like me, or was it just the booze?" is a legitimate question to ask if someone who's never made a move on you before kisses you while drunk. And the wrong answer to that question could be heartbreaking to anyone who has a crush on the drunk kisser, even without any mental health issues. If Marten's feelings for Claire are ambiguous enough to prompt twenty pages of debate on a forum, no way in heck can Claire be sure of them.
As much as she was blushing, she probably felt like a blast furnace. :)
Not a superior in any kind of sense that he's her boss, but he'd still be considered a supervisor by all reasonable definitions. In 2203 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2203), Tai saddled Marten with the responsibility of training the interns, which regardless of his actual job rank, made him their supervisor. Heck, that's what being a being a trainer *IS*.... and he would remain their supervisor for exactly as long as it remained his responsibility to train them. Once that responsibility is complete, however, he is no longer their supervisor, since he is no longer responsible for them. At no point in this does Marten's job rank need to change up or down during this process in any way.... it's just perfectly ordinary job responsibility evolution. Heck, I've trained new people at my job all the time that I have absolutely no kind of job rank over... but for the duration that I am training them, I'm still their supervisor, and I have a responsibility to train them to do their job to maximum effectiveness. It's really less of a superior position and much more of a leadership kind of thing really... but keeping all of the same ethical standards of professionalism would still apply.It might be worth to mention, that Marten's idea of dating an intern goes further than just dating-a-coworker-trouble. It's rather a dating-a-superior-trouble. He's afraid that it might come off as him forcing the intern into a relationship through his position of power as superior.
He is not her superior. He is a lowly unskilled helper. She is on the career track to become a librarian. She has way more status than him. Her superior must be some librarian. Marten has been given the task of showing her the ropes. He is not her boss.
Bah....but then I always have this issue, like with that nonsensical pairing of childhood when Rowling put Hermione with the soulless ginger. :psyduck:You mean when Rowling put Harry with the soulless ginger.
and it came to no real conclusion.
There hasn't been even an inkling until last week that Marten felt anything for Claire. It just came totally out of left field.
Marten was smooth in the past... kind of.
This just seems out of left field to me. [..] has always seemed rather [sibling-like] or platonic, and whatnot around Claire. The love that isn't romantic or sexual.
Bah....but then I always have this issue, like with that nonsensical pairing of childhood when Rowling put Hermione with the soulless ginger. :psyduck:
Hey! Gingers have souls...!!!
Lots and lots of them, amassed over many centuries...
Here you go. (http://hi-im-aria.tumblr.com/post/93985362540/okay-okay-im-going-to-tell-you-what-hermione) :)That's awesome! Here's my theory about what happens sometimes with girls in movies... So, the classic problem is that girls were always portrayed as wimpy and irrational; the boys would save the day while the girls would squeal a lot and make idiotic mistakes. Some movie makers caught on to the fact that that wasn't cool... Yay! But then they went overboard and became afraid to ever let the girls show weakness or be inferior to a boy in any way. And then it gets kinda silly.
Eh, she puts everyone with soulless gingers if she possibly can. I mean, the (literally) supernaturally beautiful french heiress with the professional thief? And you can pretty much guarantee that whoever ended up with Percy didn't do anything to really deserve that fateBah....but then I always have this issue, like with that nonsensical pairing of childhood when Rowling put Hermione with the soulless ginger. :psyduck:You mean when Rowling put Harry with the soulless ginger.
fluffy fluffy fluffyAll hail our fluffy haired queen
The suggestion that a socially awkward person, when drunk, will not make moves/be smooth is preposterous. Alcohol brings that out of a lot of people.
To those who are saying that Marten has never expressed any feelings towards Claire, I refer you back to the wedding arc. Especially the night of the snuggle, the day after and all the time, talk and worry he did about what it all could have meant. If he didn't think anything of it, or feel anything that it would have been a non-issue. But he did spend time concerned about what had happened and what he should do about it. And he does seems to spend more time around Claire than any of the other interns. Any uncharacteristic smoothness aside (why is that even an issue really?) I don't see this development being at all far fetched.
Marten overanalyzes everything related to the ladies. Look at how the Emily kiss on the cheek caused him all of this angst that he needed to talk about with multiple people. Emily is probably the only woman in the entire series that has shown an interest he doesn't seem to want to consider dating, but he still can't shut up about it. If it's girl-related drama, Marten is sure to ask Steve, Faye, Tai, and possibly 1-2 other people their opinions, regardless of if he has the hots for her or not.
Edit: Which is another reason this kinda seems odd. If he did like Claire before that night, he would have discussed it with someone else within the confines of the strip. Marten does not keep drama to himself ever.
Marten does not keep drama to himself ever.[citation needed]
Marten does not keep drama to himself ever.[citation needed]
Beg to disagree... even if you're counting Claire's status as "drama" (you shouldn't) he's kept it to himself quite nicely.
Awful lot of people here don't seem to want to admit someone might grow as a person or become more comfortable around certain other persons. Are you this unforgiving with the actual people in your lives?^---this
Amazing how wrapped up into freaking WEB COMIC CHARACTERS we are. It's kinda silly, when you step back and look at it. But... yay anyway!
God save the fluff-queen, leader of the pun-train :claireface:fluffy fluffy fluffyAll hail our fluffy haired queen
God save the fluff-queen, leader of the pun-train :claireface:fluffy fluffy fluffyAll hail our fluffy haired queen
EDIT: I've been reading QC for more than a decade now, and next month it will have been a decade since I've been posting here.You have an impressively reserved post rate.
If I were Momo I'd probably say "Shower?! What do you mean?" while shoving May into the dishwasher. Or at least I'd be tempted. If I were Momo I'd have the self control to resist.Why Momo would be a jerk?
Could be a few strips before we get back around to Marten, especially since we're still waiting for the other shoe to drop with Dora cutting Sven off. Much as I liked the squeefest, that seems to be the bigger story going on right now, and it's all tangled up in Angus's callback.
PUNS FOR THE PUN GODGod save the fluff-queen, leader of the pun-train :claireface:fluffy fluffy fluffyAll hail our fluffy haired queen
"Could", not "will". A chat between them could very well be the first thing that happens in the morning (in QC-time) if Claire decides not to head home and instead someone sleeps on the couch. It's just that Dora already stated her plans for the morning (Call parents; tell them Sven is persona non grata) and that is likely to happen first chronologically if Claire heads home.Could be a few strips before we get back around to Marten, especially since we're still waiting for the other shoe to drop with Dora cutting Sven off. Much as I liked the squeefest, that seems to be the bigger story going on right now, and it's all tangled up in Angus's callback.
A breather strip here and there is fine, but I think it'd really hurt the other storylines if you switch back and forth between them right now since people are so into the one. You don't want people going '*Sigh* a Angus strip...', you want them to care about that. And I think to do that you have to give some resolution to what's happening or not happening between Claire and Marten.
I wonder if this shower will lead to something more...I'd schooner see Pintsize take over the world.
I wonder if this shower will lead to something more...
(http://static0.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/2800-9/photos/1380299257-twenty-six-tall-ships-race-to-toulon-france_2802389.jpg)
I think Momo would do her best to prevent May from putting her consciousness in a boat.
Warhammer reference.PUNS FOR THE PUN GODGod save the fluff-queen, leader of the pun-train :claireface:fluffy fluffy fluffyAll hail our fluffy haired queen
FLUFF FOR THE FLUFF THRONE
It would help the strip break new frontiers to have a well-rounded android character in a loving relationship with a human.You know what you've done, right? Now everyone's going to link to this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658). :roll:
Robosexuality is an abomination unto the singularity!this feels like it should be a joke :psyduck:
Does her workplace not have a working sink?Apparently May has been slimed, and needs more than a sink to get the job done.
If I were Momo I'd probably say "Shower?! What do you mean?" while shoving May into the dishwasher. Or at least I'd be tempted. If I were Momo I'd have the self control to resist.Why Momo would be a jerk?
I had an idea for a "gag" guest strip a few months back...provided I actually could draw. It's dark, and you just see eyes and text bubbles. One goes "Oh Marten!" Then Martin starts saying things like "I can't believe I waited so long to try this...it feels different, but it's really not bad at all."
The lights get turned on by Pintsize, and Marten is actually in bed with May. :claireface:
Seriously though, I'd like it if May actually had some romantic developments with a human eventually. It would help the strip break new frontiers to have a well-rounded android character in a loving relationship with a human.
Hannelore rejected the idea of a robot boyfriend, so the struggle continues.
> Come to think of it, shouldn't May be in a chibi chassis or something?
Hannelore rejected the idea of a robot boyfriend, so the struggle continues.
It would help the strip break new frontiers to have a well-rounded android character in a loving relationship with a human.You know what you've done, right? Now everyone's going to link to this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658). :roll:
You know you've been here for too long when you don't even need to click the link.It would help the strip break new frontiers to have a well-rounded android character in a loving relationship with a human.You know what you've done, right? Now everyone's going to link to this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658). :roll:
Where is May working now?
I think in early comics Jeph set up more Faye&Marten-relationship than Claire&Marten-relationship today. I don't like this C&M-relationship very much. (althought they seem like a cute couple) But in the end it doesn't matter to me that much because this is fiction and Marten deserves to be finally happy.
Where is May working now?The convenience (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2728) store (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2730) where Dale used to work.
Where is May working now?The convinience (http://http:http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2728) store (http://http:http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2730) where Dale used to work.
(http://i.imgur.com/1os6eRA.jpg)
The suggestion that a socially awkward person, when drunk, will not make moves/be smooth is preposterous. Alcohol brings that out of a lot of people.
Marten is hardly a teetotaler though. He was drunk all the time around Faye back in the day. He was incredibly drunk when he first met Hanners, and arguably tried to hit on her that first night. He was also pretty clumsy in his attempts on that woman on the Space Station and Deidre, despite alcohol being involved in both cases. If Marten had effective liquid courage in the past, we would have seen it.
Wouldn't May || Momo be gynoids rather than androids, though?It would help the strip break new frontiers to have a well-rounded android character in a loving relationship with a human.You know what you've done, right? Now everyone's going to link to this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658). :roll:
Or perhaps Claire is someone who ... is more of a good fit for him as a relationship, and that brings out the confidence in him.
Sure, but she hasn't rejected the idea of a robot girlfriend, has she? :claireface:
We already saw that (sort of) happen, starting with this strip: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2759Where is May working now?
I was wondering about this, too. Here's a thought. IMHO May really should work at ... the Coffee of Doom.<snip>
- And it would be interesting to see `Hannelore meets May'.
Hm, off-topic, but I've been binging on the archives again, and do these imply a Charlie Stross expy is one of Marten's "uncles"?
Awful lot of people here don't seem to want to admit someone might grow as a person or become more comfortable around certain other persons. Are you this unforgiving with the actual people in your lives?
- And it would be interesting to see `Hannelore meets May'.
- And it would be interesting to see `Hannelore meets May'.
Uh... you forgetting something? (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2759)
Seriously though, there's plenty of ways I think a hookup between Claire and Marten would have been fine. Honestly I wouldn't have had an issue with the wedding arc ending with them making out, because there was a realistic build up to the moment. We all presumed it was going to happen once Claire decided to go, and the Jeph faked us out with the last panel. Or if after the wedding Martin talked things out with Steve, Faye, Tai, and maybe Hanners, before deciding to make an awkward move. But the last year or so of the comic did not have any real feel of a build towards Marten/Claire, what with the one-night-stand arc and Emily's crush on Marten. It honestly feels as if Jeph decided to suddenly change course here within the last month or so - and did so in a way that resulted in Marten not acting in a believable manner for his character. And IMHO it's not up to his normal standards.Around the wedding arc, I thought Claire wouldn't have been ready. And from my own experience - I've had situations where the time wasn't right, where things didn't seem to be going anywhere, life went on, I got crushes on other people, maybe even relationships, and then at some later point that derailed flirt/whatever got revisited and developed further. I don't think this is too uncommon, either.
This is May's first chassis that we've seen. Prior to this she was on a hard drive in Robot Jail. It was Momo who had the chibi body, which she was eager to get out of.New as in "she didn't have it before."
I wonder if the fact that Marten hasn't hashed this out with anyone is a sign that, for once, he knows exactly what he wants to do? Maybe it's not so much confidence as him being able to see how things have been going up to this point, and not feeling a need to analyze because he doesn't see any need to change their direction?
Oh, I'm absolutely certain the alcohol has been helping him out on this (/last?) evening. I'm more of trying to explain why he didn't talk about crushes and interns and all that like he did with Emily. I mean, even as far back as the wedding arc, he didn't focus on her snuggling with him nearly as much as that peck on the cheek from Emily, so it seems like he's just bein' a super chill dude and letting their paths cross naturally. Being the Mr. Nutt to her Agnes, to make a moderately obscure reference.I wonder if the fact that Marten hasn't hashed this out with anyone is a sign that, for once, he knows exactly what he wants to do? Maybe it's not so much confidence as him being able to see how things have been going up to this point, and not feeling a need to analyze because he doesn't see any need to change their direction?
I'm not sure. I interpreted his actions more like alcohol-helped flirting, after the scene suddenly became intimate when Faye left. He said 'You're ALL my favorites' as in, favourite interns, which doesn't sound like flirting at all. He asked why Faye was leaving so soon. He only started doing 'flirty' things as soon as he saw Claire's reaction to him massaging her head, so he just went with the flow.
Or she deliberately kept her hands unwashed just so she could do that to Momo.
[cut stuff because it's long]I did not get that reference, then I googled it. I have to get on with my Discworld reading, thanks for reminding me :-)
I mean, even as far back as the wedding arc, he didn't focus on her snuggling with him nearly as much as that peck on the cheek from Emily, so it seems like he's just bein' a super chill dude and letting their paths cross naturally. Being the Mr. Nutt to her Agnes, to make a moderately obscure reference.
QuoteOr she deliberately kept her hands unwashed just so she could do that to Momo.
Yeah, given that she mooned Faye by way of saying hello back when she was in virtual mode, I'd have to say this is a strong possibility.
Well he talked it over with Faye AND DoraI mean, with Emily he started with the whole "what." routine, then talked it over with Tai, Hanners, Pintsize, and Faye-with the inclusion of Crisis Wine, although I'm tempted to think that's mostly for Faye. It just seems like a much greater response to a much smaller thing-a peck on the cheek versus nighttime snuggles (right after a wedding).
Seriously though, I'd like it if May actually had some romantic developments with a human eventually. It would help the strip break new frontiers to have a well-rounded android character in a loving relationship with a human.
I don't have the same reflexive dislike for May that a lot of people on here seem to have for her. With that said, if there's going to be a human/AI pairing, I get the feeling it's far likelier to involve Momo than May.
My Claire-esy knows no bounds. :claireface:Warhammer reference.PUNS FOR THE PUN GODGod save the fluff-queen, leader of the pun-train :claireface:fluffy fluffy fluffyAll hail our fluffy haired queen
FLUFF FOR THE FLUFF THRONE
Just as planned. :parrot:
I have the feeling May may have performed some illegal experiment. Perhaps making explosives for the missile she is planning to build. Or it could just be an innocent mishap, and Momo's apartment was nearby.Where is May working now?The convenience (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2728) store (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2730) where Dale used to work.
I have the feeling May may have performed some illegal experiment. Perhaps making explosives for the missile she is planning to build. Or it could just be an innocent mishap, and Momo's apartment was nearby.
Sure, but she hasn't rejected the idea of a robot girlfriend, has she? :claireface:
Considering that Hanners has said that she's "straight, in theory" (and the "in theory" part being tending towards asexuality, not bisexuality)...
And, considering that Pintsize and Marigold give her porn of guys...
And is May waterproof? Remember, Clinton (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305) could not take a swim because his artificial hand did not have the recommended synthetic covering. May's skin seems similar to Clinton's hand.
If robosexual marriage becomes legal, imagine horrible things that will happen to our children.What children?
I get the feeling that what's coming off in Momo's hand is May's synthetic covering - she got into something volatile at work, and needs to get off what she can while she still has some covering left...Maybe in QC you can buy cesium in every corner drug store, but in the real world it's a little hard to come by! I'm afraid you're stuck here, Marty.
If robosexual marriage becomes legal, imagine horrible things that will happen to our children.What children?
I get the feeling that what's coming off in Momo's hand is May's synthetic covering - she got into something volatile at work, and needs to get off what she can while she still has some covering left...Maybe in QC you can buy cesium in every corner drug store, but in the real world it's a little hard to come by! I'm afraid you're stuck here, Marty.
:psyduck:
I get the feeling that what's coming off in Momo's hand is May's synthetic covering - she got into something volatile at work, and needs to get off what she can while she still has some covering left...Maybe in QC you can buy cesium in every corner drug store, but in the real world it's a little hard to come by! I'm afraid you're stuck here, Marty.
:psyduck:
Assuming that her covering is some sort of high density plastic, there are a few different common chemicals that could cause it to soften or melt. If the convenience store carries plastic cement, a bottle could have spilled, which would also cause that kind of melting. I used it a lot when making warhammer minis, and i used it's plastic-melting properties a few times to create battle damage.
Only mildly corrosive and will soften most plastics with prolonged exposure.
I'm thinking syrup for the soda machine. If someone didn't connect the fittings properly, things tend to get very messy very quickly once pressure is added to the system.
Why can we foresee Claire ships?
Because of the Claire buoyancy. :claireface:
Marten can have emotionally progressed in numerous ways, especially since the intense relationship with Dora. Claire is one of the few people Marten knows who is less dominant than him, and while Marten is frequently a doormat, perhaps he has found his inner confidence being around someone who lacks confidence just as much as he does.
On an unrelated note, who here watched The End of Evangelion?I've only seen Rebuild
No, I put one up
AS YOU ASKED SOMEONE TO DO EARLIER.
There is no restriction that I can see preventing the originator of a topic from deleting the poll and adding another.
I've only seen Rebuild
mmm... pancakesThis I can understand :D
I might just be a bit dull but I can't tell if the new strip is a good sign or a bad sign :psyduck:I don't think Marten can tell, either.
Pancakes are probably better for this than waffles.Blasphemy! Waffles are always better!
I think it's more "where do I go from here?"
Uses such as:Pancakes are probably better for this than waffles.Blasphemy! Waffles are always better!
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You are talking about eating them and not other uses right?
I got the pun, at least.
(Now to make the unfunny pun less funny by explaining it... waffling is being unable to make a decision.)
I'm obligated to declare them unfunny, having grown up with a mother who was Claire's equal when it came to tearable puns.
shhhh process in a good way. The ship is powered by belief. :claireface:Clap your hands if you believe... :mrgreen:
Unless the Cintiq has brought changes, Jeph works in Photoshop, which is decidedly not vector.I thought he worked in Illustrator for some reason, but the about page does say Photoshop for the actual art...
And, re: yesterday's comic... I feel sorry for Momo, especially if Angus moves out and moves to NYC. I wouldn't be surprised if Dale moves in, and then that means that she has to deal with the constant fucking and May all the time.
oh I GET it! Claire is the kind of brash, verbally aggressive girl Marten is inclined to be attracted to but she specifically can't be sexually assertive with him the way Dora, Padma and Delilah were, for reasons that totally work with and not against her character.
Which means that for the first time in ever, Marten can't just go with the flow. He is going to have to figure out what he wants. And then act on it. Character growth imminent!
So Marten's going to make giant pancakes and put them on an alarming amount of bunny for Claire?Giant bunny? Robot or genetically engineered you choose!
Also, the fact that Marten's sleeping in his own bed tells me that Claire went home.
Also, the fact that Marten's sleeping in his own bed tells me that Claire went home.
I think it's more "where do I go from here?"
Love and pancakes, love and pancakes,
Go together like Kubrick and retakes
I don't think Claire is that brash or verbally agressive. I'm not saying she is a doormat, but she just isn't an in your face person.
She could be sleeping on the couch, y'know.
She could be sleeping on the couch, y'know.
It's Marten we're talking about here, that's not his style at all (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2388).
(Although, apparently Faye was sleeping on the couch for quite a while...)
I don't think Claire is that brash or verbally agressive. I'm not saying she is a doormat, but she just isn't an in your face person.
Yeah I just disagree about that. She got right in Marten's face when she felt like he wasn't taking their job orientation seriously, when they first met; got in Tai's face about her relationship with Dora before she had all the details. If chewing out both your bosses in your first week on the job doesn't make you a firebrand, what does?
Oh, so now comes pages and pages of Marten figuring out his feelings.
On an unrelated note, who here watched The End of Evangelion?Marten and the rest of the cast turn into Tang! (or whatever orange coloured drink suits one's fancy)
Oh, so now comes pages and pages of Marten figuring out his feelings.
Yeah. And then back to the Sven/Dora storyline, then back to Faye and Angus, then Dale and Marigold, a dash of Pintsize shenanigans, some cereal, a liberal helping of Yelling Bird, the return of Wil and Penelope, some Tai and Dora developments, then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger around Thanksgiving, with more indecision when the comic resumes, followed by another visit to the space station, a visit with Jimbo, May's parole violation, and then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger right before Christmas leading to more indecision in the New Year. :P
Oh, so now comes pages and pages of Marten figuring out his feelings.
Yeah. And then back to the Sven/Dora storyline, then back to Faye and Angus, then Dale and Marigold, a dash of Pintsize shenanigans, some cereal, a liberal helping of Yelling Bird, the return of Wil and Penelope, some Tai and Dora developments, then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger around Thanksgiving, with more indecision when the comic resumes, followed by another visit to the space station, a visit with Jimbo, May's parole violation, and then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger right before Christmas leading to more indecision in the New Year. :P
You're right about everything but the pacing. With that much stuff going on it will probably be more like a year and a half until there is any resolution. :psyduck:
Just realized that Hannelore character development is like Evangelion backwards. Hannelore starts a wreck and slowly becomes more and more stable while Evangelion characters start relatively normal and them go to a terrible emotional train wreck.On an unrelated note, who here watched The End of Evangelion?Marten and the rest of the cast turn into Tang! (or whatever orange coloured drink suits one's fancy)
Marten and the rest of the cast turn into Tang!
To me, it's less of a "We need to talk about what happened last night, because I think there are mutual feelings of attraction" than it is a "I can't believe last night happened, I would not have done that if I were sober." Which is kind of sad to me, because I had hoped that Marten was sober enough to truly want to be with Claire (as opposed to his flirting being a drunk impulse).
Evangelion is one of the only anime series that I never got into even in the height of my otaku phase between 16-24.I need to watch it, but I can't find it. It sounds very very interesting.
Now this is the Marten we knowyep
and loveNot so sure about this in this context… :roll:
I'm not seeing this the way others seem to. It all looks good to go to me.You, me, and the power of Shipping, bro.
To me, it's less of a "We need to talk about what happened last night, because I think there are mutual feelings of attraction" than it is a "I can't believe last night happened, I would not have done that if I were sober."
See, this is why I'm here like once a month.Oh, so now comes pages and pages of Marten figuring out his feelings.
Yeah. And then back to the Sven/Dora storyline, then back to Faye and Angus, then Dale and Marigold, a dash of Pintsize shenanigans, some cereal, a liberal helping of Yelling Bird, the return of Wil and Penelope, some Tai and Dora developments, then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger around Thanksgiving, with more indecision when the comic resumes, followed by another visit to the space station, a visit with Jimbo, May's parole violation, and then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger right before Christmas leading to more indecision in the New Year. :P
Evangelion is one of the only anime series that I never got into even in the height of my otaku phase between 16-24.And yet your user name could be based on it!
Evangelion is one of the only anime series that I never got into even in the height of my otaku phase between 16-24.And yet your user name could be based on it!
I'm a great grandfather; but I'm not the oldest person on this forum.how do you make your avatar change itself? And did you upload each of those avatars individually?
Or he can keep being mopey. That's always an option. :-P...
... NO RAVEN ??? :cry:Oh, so now comes pages and pages of Marten figuring out his feelings.
Yeah. And then back to the Sven/Dora storyline, then back to Faye and Angus, then Dale and Marigold, a dash of Pintsize shenanigans, some cereal, a liberal helping of Yelling Bird, the return of Wil and Penelope, some Tai and Dora developments, then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger around Thanksgiving, with more indecision when the comic resumes, followed by another visit to the space station, a visit with Jimbo, May's parole violation, and then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger right before Christmas leading to more indecision in the New Year. :P
Pancakes solve everythingWell, not thirst, and they dont have boobs either.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/obqtxXhC75k/hqdefault.jpg)
The pacing doesn't make sense, the format that I dreamed the strips were in isn't at all Jeph's format, and the ending doesn't make sense.Because Emily duh!
You could squeeze it into roughly six months. Which brings us, roughly, to strip 3000. I'm calling it now. :P
May is an interesting character, and it will be fun to have her develop alongside the main cast. Besides, she gives kind of a lighthearted break from everything - though Jephzibah, bless him, tends to put her in to break up super epic storylines like this one. Which annoys me a tiny bit.
Her aptitude for creative cursing aside ("fuckbarn" is just a beautiful swear, somehow), I humbly disagree. I know the AI stuff is something Jeph wants to explore in the comic, but for me it just KILLS the momentum of what I'm actually interested in. Momo was one thing, but the May storylines are just heavy-handed as hell.I disagree. May shows us some of the darker sides of AI in the QC universe. There is crime, jail, intelligent weaponry, advanced stealth technology, and AI's that might consider harming or exterminating humanity. Until now, we have only seen glimpses of this. Let us hope Jeph is not planning a war of extermination between humans and AI.
Her aptitude for creative cursing aside ("fuckbarn" is just a beautiful swear, somehow), I humbly disagree. I know the AI stuff is something Jeph wants to explore in the comic, but for me it just KILLS the momentum of what I'm actually interested in. Momo was one thing, but the May storylines are just heavy-handed as hell.I disagree. May shows us some of the darker sides of AI in the QC universe. There is crime, jail, intelligent weaponry, advanced stealth technology, and AI's that might consider harming or exterminating humanity. Until now, we have only seen glimpses of this. Let us hope Jeph is not planning a war of extermination between humans and AI.
I disagree. May shows us some of the darker sides of AI in the QC universe.Yeah, but not really. "Sociopathic AI" might be an interesting area to explore, but May has been positioned as a "sociopath with a heart of gold," which lowers the stakes and really doesn't make sense.
Why are you assuming sociopathy? She seems more like an attention-starved teen looking for a role model to me. Indeed she exhibits almost none of the three major indices of sociopathy and even the one she does have a little of (reduced empathy) is within "normal" bounds as far as we have seen.I disagree. May shows us some of the darker sides of AI in the QC universe.Yeah, but not really. "Sociopathic AI" might be an interesting area to explore, but May has been positioned as a "sociopath with a heart of gold," which lowers the stakes and really doesn't make sense.
A new sympathetic character who constantly hurls insults, if that's indeed where this is going, is not breaking new ground in this strip.
mmm... pancakes
Ok I'm new here (but not on the planet) and while I'm not intending to be contentious but I really dislike the term Artificial Intelligence.Let's play spot the difference.
How can Intelligence be Artificial?
Bio or Electro-Mechanical Intelligence is Intelligence.
Oh and the Claire/Marten story arc.............yeah well kinda saw that one coming down the road a while ago, but analyzing Marten's actions/hesitation is just so much fun.
Is he hesitating because Claire's a coworker and doesn't know how to proceed or because she's got anxiety and want to go carefully and not hurt her or is he just scared about another "Crash and Burn" possibility.
I'd like for him to grow a pair and step up for Claire. (But Hey I'm an old romantic!) :claireface:
Waffles, Space Ham, Pancakes.Together, they make a breakfast that is out of this world :claireface:
I'd like for him to grow a pair and step up for Claire. (But Hey I'm an old romantic!) :claireface:Welcome aboard, I'll be thinking you'll enjoy your stay because we are sailing straight for canon aww yisss.
I'd like for him to grow a pair and step up for Claire. (But Hey I'm an old romantic!)QuoteWelcome aboard, I'll be thinking you'll enjoy your stay because we are sailing straight for canon aww yisss.
I'd like for him to grow a pair and step up for Claire.
Let's play spot the difference
On comic: I'd like to think that Marten is just trying to get himself into a position where he can figure out what happened between himself and Claire. His first approach will be Faye (being probably closest to her, both by proximity and emotional attachment). A shared breakfast might be in order.
I'd love to see her reaction.On comic: I'd like to think that Marten is just trying to get himself into a position where he can figure out what happened between himself and Claire. His first approach will be Faye (being probably closest to her, both by proximity and emotional attachment). A shared breakfast might be in order.
I have a hunch that he won't talk about this with anyone else. He will have to summon up the courage to talk to Claire herself this time. Unlike the wedding snuggle and Emily's "my hero" kiss, this is not unfathomable behaviour by the other party; Marten has to ask himself why HE instigated physical contact, and only he can answer that.
So he's either got to tell her that he's sober now and he'd like to carry on where they left off last night and be prepared for her reaction, whatever that may be, or else (less likely in my mind) admit it was all a drunken mistake and apologise.
Come to think of it, I wonder if we'll be treated to how Claire is reacting to all this. She's got a lot of stuff to process too...
I'm not seeing this the way others seem to. It all looks good to go to me.You, me, and the power of Shipping, bro.
(don't worry, I call absolutely everybody that)
Unlike the wedding snuggle and Emily's "my hero" kiss, this is not unfathomable behaviour by the other party; Marten has to ask himself why HE instigated physical contact, and only he can answer that.
So he's either got to tell her that he's sober now and he'd like to carry on where they left off last night and be prepared for her reaction, whatever that may be, or else (less likely in my mind) admit it was all a drunken mistake and apologise.
[...] read the rules back atop the main forum. This is a no-shipping forum, despite what you may have been led to believe.)
... NO RAVEN ??? :cry:Oh, so now comes pages and pages of Marten figuring out his feelings.
Yeah. And then back to the Sven/Dora storyline, then back to Faye and Angus, then Dale and Marigold, a dash of Pintsize shenanigans, some cereal, a liberal helping of Yelling Bird, the return of Wil and Penelope, some Tai and Dora developments, then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger around Thanksgiving, with more indecision when the comic resumes, followed by another visit to the space station, a visit with Jimbo, May's parole violation, and then another Claire/Marten cliffhanger right before Christmas leading to more indecision in the New Year. :P
mmm... pancakes
We now have meme #3.
Waffles, Space Ham, Pancakes.
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/obqtxXhC75k/hqdefault.jpg)
You. You are the best.
You know what I miss? I miss Faye casually strolling in to announce, matter-of-factly, that something is on fire. I miss that.
yeah, you should be dreaming about Pokemon like a normal nerd :-DThere is no such thing. There are mutually exclusive sets.
Perhaps we could define an orthonormal basis set of nerds...yeah, you should be dreaming about Pokemon like a normal nerd :-DThere is no such thing. There are mutually exclusive sets.
Mind you both sets are partial subsets of "Appear Normal".
Why can we foresee Claire ships?
Because of the Claire buoyancy. :claireface:
Perhaps we could define an orthonormal basis set of nerds...yeah, you should be dreaming about Pokemon like a normal nerd :-DThere is no such thing. There are mutually exclusive sets.
Mind you both sets are partial subsets of "Appear Normal".
It's a Hilbert space of infinite dimension.Perhaps we could define an orthonormal basis set of nerds...yeah, you should be dreaming about Pokemon like a normal nerd :-DThere is no such thing. There are mutually exclusive sets.
Mind you both sets are partial subsets of "Appear Normal".
What is the dimension of nerdspace?
*dodges thrown shoos* :claireface:Why can we foresee Claire ships?
Because of the Claire buoyancy. :claireface:
BOO! HISS! KICK THE BUM OUT!
*dodges thrown shoos*
if by awful you mean PUNTASTIC :parrot:Quote*dodges thrown shoos*
Oh dear GOD that was awful.
What is the dimension of nerdspace?I wonder if it's anything like L-space.
This sudden jump from Linear Algebra to Pratchett hurts my brain.What is the dimension of nerdspace?I wonder if it's anything like L-space.
And do you need to brew a nice hot cup of Tea to reach it?You may need to argue with a robot in an Italian restaurant to reach it.
More like E-space.This sudden jump from Linear Algebra to Pratchett hurts my brain.What is the dimension of nerdspace?I wonder if it's anything like L-space.
Part of me wonders if a small part of Marten's needing to process the events of the night have to do with a certain sentiment he expressed in the past (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=615). I know Jeph's matured as both a writer and a person since all that time ago, but Marten's had considerably less in-comic time to reach the same level of maturity.
Let the speculation commence. Did Marten meet her on the way to the diner?
Edit: Ooh, another theory: Claire talked to her mother about the night, and she decided to take matters into her own hands.This is what I assumed
Let the speculation commence. Did Marten meet her on the way to the diner?
Edit: Ooh, another theory: Claire talked to her mother about the night, and she decided to take matters into her own hands.
I won't lie, when I saw this the first time I thought Claire's mom was also Claire and I thought we had plunged into a Lynchian style dream...and then freaked out when I realized what was going on.
I won't lie, when I saw this the first time I thought Claire's mom was also Claire and I thought we had plunged into a Lynchian style dream...and then freaked out when I realized what was going on.
Yeah, me too. What... the... hell? Then I realized that Claire looks just like her mom.
Yep. Claire's mother approves of Marten, Marten's mother approves of Claire. When are they getting married? :mrgreen:
Edit: jwhouk, is it just me, or have we both pretty much been thinking the same things over the last few minutes?
Of course they're clones. How did you think gingers reproduced with their perfectly awesome hair? :)Also there was an old post mentioning how Claire trans status was foreshadowed by her lips.
Yeah, this kind of blindsided me as well. But you know, I think it's a good thing. They can now talk about what happened last night with each other in a more sober light. Without a lot of waffling back and forth on what they think, or getting ham-handed advice from friends.
Sorry if someone's mentioned this already... But there was another visual foreshadowing that Claire was trans which exists.
Male characters do not have lips in QC, only female characters. Claire has no lips. That's an indication that she's genetically male, as it's a universal sex trait in the QC universe.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/25k7jps.jpg)
Does Northhampton just have shitty diners or something? Diner pancakes are good.Yeah, but not "mums cooking" good
I wonder who made the dinners at Marten's family? His mother doesn't sounds like the kind that is into cooking...Does Northhampton just have shitty diners or something? Diner pancakes are good.Yeah, but not "mums cooking" good
Also there was an old post mentioning how Claire trans status was foreshadowed by her lips.Sorry if someone's mentioned this already... But there was another visual foreshadowing that Claire was trans which exists.
Male characters do not have lips in QC, only female characters. Claire has no lips. That's an indication that she's genetically male, as it's a universal sex trait in the QC universe.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/25k7jps.jpg)
Maybe this was just a mistake. Jeph might have used Claire as base to make her mother but he is also very attentive to details making this all strange.
That aside her mother is also a cutie!
I wonder who made the dinners at Marten's family? His mother doesn't sounds like the kind that is into cooking...
Also there was an old post mentioning how Claire trans status was foreshadowed by her lips.
It's bad manners to analyze a real trans person's appearance for ways to misgender them, of course. Looking for clues in Jeph's artwork is certainly a thing but talking about Claire is a chance to practice how we'll talk about trans people who actually exist.
Without a lot of waffling back and forth on what they think, or getting ham-handed advice from friends.
Why is Claire's mom in the diner or near it("He was having diner pancakes")? How did she know who Marten is? They've never met!
Yeah, I don't think I look like the kind of person who cooks either. But I have a vague image of Marten's father cooking or at least holding a pot.I wonder who made the dinners at Marten's family? His mother doesn't sounds like the kind that is into cooking...
Veronica doesn't seem like she'd be into knitting either, but she made the Worry Hat. So you never know.
Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.You said this much better then I did. :-P
Hey, maybe Claire's mom is also trans!
I think I got whiplash, totally wasn't expecting thisDammit Jeph, insurance premiums are bad enough as it is!
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379
That's the strip where Veronica started trying to get Claire interested in Marten, for those who don't feel like doing the work looking back that I just did...
Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.
I hope her mother's name is CLeo.
So CLaire and CLinton and CLeo make a family of CLones.
Not that absurd considering that we have one girl who was born and raised in space and have a space station as therapist.
I have been following this comic for years. I have only joined the forums to get in on the craziness of the current story arc. As much as people will say that some of this is out of character, I feel like this particular arc is a truly brilliant one. The way this whole situation has played out, and the pacing of the development truly shows how good Jeph has become at crafting a compelling, and emotionally gripping storyline. That is all.and hilarious. Don't forget hilarious.
Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.
Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.
So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.
Hannelore and Marigold have recently lost their lips.
I hope her mother's name is CLeo.
So CLaire and CLinton and CLeo make a family of CLones.
Not that absurd considering that we have one girl who was born and raised in space and have a space station as therapist.
No, her mother is Clarice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383).
Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.
So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.
Interesting observation...Mrs. Augustus definitely has lips. You have to look close, though.
So does Marten, but in QC world all genetically women so far had thick shiny lips.
Hannelore and Marigold have recently lost their lips.
Oh... Now I'm imagining this too.
Thank you so damned much for the nightmares I am going to have tonight.
:wink:
Uh oh. Has Marten decided to be big-brotherly rather than pursue a romantic relationship? Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"Or he fell in love with Claire's mom... ...pancakes!
Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"The processing was supposed to come after pancakes
Marigold hasn't had big shiny lips either.She had originally http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1413
Evidence: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1993
I think the big shiny lips thing is mostly just who wears lip gloss or lipstick and who doesn't.
I find the revisiting of the Dale/Marigold 'pancakes' incident highly amusing.
Wait, does that mean Clairemom is an android?
*mindblown*
Remember Marten, "The syrup is for the pancakes".
Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"The processing was supposed to come after pancakes
What if the whole family are androids! Better make them similar so it is easier to replace broken parts!
Marigold hasn't had big shiny lips either.She had originally http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1413
Evidence: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1993
I think the big shiny lips thing is mostly just who wears lip gloss or lipstick and who doesn't.
And I'm pretty sure she didn't use lipstick/gloss/any make up back them.
The current trend might be just part of the style change but it still doesn't rule out my CLone family crack theory!
While you were posting, other people already noted Hanners lips were torn off before you couldWhat if the QC cast is slowley being replaced with robots.... :claireface:
Robots too, have no lips. Although, being artificial, doesn't prove anything.
I've seen people note a adams apple way back (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2205) though. That could just be the artstyle at the time though, since I think there's other instances of cis women having a curve going neck to chin sometimes. Although she definitely has one now if you at the near kiss.
Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"
Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.
Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.I just added a random "ara ara" in my mind.
Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.
Ooh, I like this one.
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What if the QC cast is slowley being replaced with robots.... :claireface:
This can only mean good things, in my mind. If Marten was willing to take Claire's mom up on the invitation, that means he wasn't completely freaked out about the happenings the night before. Otherwise, he would either not be there at all, or would look uncomfortable as hell. But buddy is smiling and genuine and sober and this can only lead to GOOD THINGS *clutches at face*
passing is a thing we have to worry about. If Claire the character was just "trans" without having to confront or embody any of the crap which that entails, it would not be good storytelling. And if we can't parse the art for clues to that struggle, we would not be good readers.
Speculation: Marten saw Claire's mom at the diner, and did a double-take because she looks so much like Claire. Claire's mom has seen this reaction before and knows what it means, and said "Hi, you must be one of my daughter's friends." Marten then introduced himself, and Claire's mom realized that this is the guy her daughter had been talking about so much the past few months.
Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.
Ooh, I like this one.
Marigold hasn't had big shiny lips either.She had originally http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1413
Evidence: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1993
I think the big shiny lips thing is mostly just who wears lip gloss or lipstick and who doesn't.
And I'm pretty sure she didn't use lipstick/gloss/any make up back them.
The current trend might be just part of the style change but it still doesn't rule out my CLone family crack theory!
So Claire family are robots also Hannelore and Marigold were replaced by robots too. Who will be next? Are May and Momo also involved? How do we detect when a male was replaced?That's the scary part, we can't tell.
Maybe Marten was not acting out of character. Maybe Marten is not Marten.So Claire family are robots also Hannelore and Marigold were replaced by robots too. Who will be next? Are May and Momo also involved? How do we detect when a male was replaced?That's the scary part, we can't tell.
Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes. I'll even get my daughter up for you!" Or something along those lines. That is what I was thinking, at least.
Hey, maybe Claire's mom is also trans!
That's why I said they are a clone family! Or as alternative title for old cartoons "the Clonesons"
I taste conspiracy...Maybe Marten was not acting out of character. Maybe Marten is not Marten.So Claire family are robots also Hannelore and Marigold were replaced by robots too. Who will be next? Are May and Momo also involved? How do we detect when a male was replaced?That's the scary part, we can't tell.
judging from Claire's look in this one, I think she's about to flee the scene.
What is the scratch and cuddling where all a dream and made Marten realize that he loves her so he went to her house?judging from Claire's look in this one, I think she's about to flee the scene.
Yeah, this is not cool on either Marten's or Mrs. Augustus's part, tbqh. Claire should have the morning to process all this stuff with her support system, and Marten should be talking to Tai and figuring out how to kosher this budding office romance.
What is the scratch and cuddling where all a dream and made Marten realize that he loves her so he went to her house?
But they are robots :psyduck:What is the scratch and cuddling where all a dream and made Marten realize that he loves her so he went to her house?
It would still be creepy! As her work supervisor, the right thing is to remove himself from her chain of command before pursuing her.
judging from Claire's look in this one, I think she's about to flee the scene.
Yeah, this is not cool on either Marten's or Mrs. Augustus's part, tbqh. Claire should have the morning to process all this stuff with her support system, and Marten should be talking to Tai and figuring out how to kosher this budding office romance.
Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
(http://i62.tinypic.com/212gumg.jpg)Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
Aww, poor Emily. She needs to find a guy as weird as her. Mister Robot Hand, perhaps? :-P(http://i62.tinypic.com/212gumg.jpg)Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
Maybe May, she seems to like robots.Aww, poor Emily. She needs to find a guy as weird as her. Mister Robot Hand, perhaps? :-P(http://i62.tinypic.com/212gumg.jpg)Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
I feel like an ass for bringing this up, but I honestly rooted for an Emily/Marten (Emiten? Martily?) ship when the interns were first introduced, but she was a different kind of weird then. Like she was honestly just so deep in a train of thought that getting her to come back to reality would leave everyone scratching their heads trying to catch up.Aww, poor Emily. She needs to find a guy as weird as her. Mister Robot Hand, perhaps? :-P(http://i62.tinypic.com/212gumg.jpg)Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
I think he won't. Rationalize, that is. He'll likely acknowledge the "but she's an intern where I work" argument as a rationalization for just not being into Emily. Anyway, we don't really know what Marten's thinking yet. He could want to pursue this. He could want to pursue this and have decided to extricate himself from the task of training interns. He could decide to put things on ice until the situation changes. He could decide he doesn't want to take things further, and simply be happy with the close friends thing. What we do know is that he's in a good mood and not worried about what happens next: he's made some sort of conclusion now that he has a few bites in him.Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
It would still be creepy! As her work supervisor, the right thing is to remove himself from her chain of command before pursuing her.
I'm still of the opinion that Emily isn't even into Marten. She was just being her strange little self. Likewise, Marten showed no inclination toward her at all. In my opinion, she doesn't even come into the Claire/Marten equation at all, and if this goes ahead? I'll be incredibly surprised if there's a moment where Marten says they should stop and think about Emily's feelings. I guess I've always thought it was established there was nothing there for either of them, and in my mind, the whole "situation" with Emily was to settle into mind the idea of Marten dating an intern for other characters, i.e. Faye and Tai. Since they took it so easily about Emily, that might be a setup to that particular hangup being removed -or at least lessened- for Marten when it comes to Claire.
If any of that made sense outside of the cramped, spooky confines of my mind.
I liked it, I think Marten is cute
He has a cute butt, too!
I'm still of the opinion that Emily isn't even into Marten. She was just being her strange little self. Likewise, Marten showed no inclination toward her at all. In my opinion, she doesn't even come into the Claire/Marten equation at all, and if this goes ahead? I'll be incredibly surprised if there's a moment where Marten says they should stop and think about Emily's feelings. I guess I've always thought it was established there was nothing there for either of them, and in my mind, the whole "situation" with Emily was to settle into mind the idea of Marten dating an intern for other characters, i.e. Faye and Tai. Since they took it so easily about Emily, that might be a setup to that particular hangup being removed -or at least lessened- for Marten when it comes to Claire.I feel that Emily will be her super weird happy self and congratulate them if it goes further.
If any of that made sense outside of the cramped, spooky confines of my mind.
Just saw the comic and what. Just... what. I did not expect this so soon! A nice surprise, though, as his pleasant mood looks like a good omen in terms of characters being happy with the direction things are headed. Even though the look in Claire's eyes brings to mind the image of a deer caught in headlights, that is.
I take it Claire's mom already knew about Marten if she decided to just invite him over for breakfast. (As several of you have also inferred)I think he won't. Rationalize, that is. He'll likely acknowledge the "but she's an intern where I work" argument as a rationalization for just not being into Emily. Anyway, we don't really know what Marten's thinking yet. He could want to pursue this. He could want to pursue this and have decided to extricate himself from the task of training interns. He could decide to put things on ice until the situation changes. He could decide he doesn't want to take things further, and simply be happy with the close friends thing. What we do know is that he's in a good mood and not worried about what happens next: he's made some sort of conclusion now that he has a few bites in him.Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
Are Clinton and her mother her support system?That was my intent - doesn't she need them more than Marten does in a confusing situation? If things work out between them, she should get to introduce him to her family on her own terms.
Has Claire mentioned what her mom does for a job? Specifically, whether or not she's a barber? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1983)!
Quote from: Emily AzumaI liked it, I think Marten is cute
He has a cute butt, too!
Clearly she was interested... How it developed from there on is another matterQuote from: Emily AzumaI liked it, I think Marten is cute
He has a cute butt, too!
I think my best friend of four years is cute and has a cute butt, but she and I are only platonic. Thinking somebody's butt/other parts are cute/nice doesn't necessarily mean you're interested in them or want to pursue a relationship with them. By this logic, Claire is romantically interested in Steve. As demonstrated in this comic: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2367 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2367)
I feel like an ass for bringing this up, but I honestly rooted for an Emily/Marten (Emiten? Martily?) ship when the interns were first introduced, but she was a different kind of weird then. Like she was honestly just so deep in a train of thought that getting her to come back to reality would leave everyone scratching their heads trying to catch up.Aww, poor Emily. She needs to find a guy as weird as her. Mister Robot Hand, perhaps? :-P(http://i62.tinypic.com/212gumg.jpg)Who said he's pursuing her?This is fair, and I wonder how he will rationalize being with Claire when he was so against the possibility being pursued by Emily, but I honestly believe Marten is going to make an effort with Claire.
Clearly she was interested... How it developed from there on is another matterThere is a difference in finding someone pleasant to the eye and beeing romanticaly or sexualy interested i them, finding someone pretty/beautiful and beeing attracted by them are very different. I have a friend who I find very beautiful but who I'm not to at all.
I think Marten is going to leave the library job if he and Claire start dating. They were just discussing how it wasn't his dream job and how depressing it was for him to think of his being there for a long term gig. http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2785 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2785)
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT.Red fluffy redemption :claireface:
I don't even.
I cannot figure out a logical flow of events for this one.
Also, Claire looks totally unrealistic. With hair that fluffy, I'm thinking she'd have epic bedhead.
Has Claire mentioned what her mom does for a job? Specifically, whether or not she's a barber? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1983)
Also, Claire looks totally unrealistic. With hair that fluffy, I'm thinking she'd have epic bedhead.I have hair like Claire's, and I only sometimes get the epic bedhead. About a 50% chance.
Clearly she was interested... How it developed from there on is another matterThere is a difference in finding someone pleasant to the eye and beeing romanticaly or sexualy interested i them, finding someone pretty/beautiful and beeing attracted by them are very different. I have a friend who I find very beautiful but who I'm not to at all.
A meeting could've taken place a while ago off-camera, as it were, but the most plausible scenario I can think of (a ride home from work, and pointing out the guy she works with at the library) doesn't fit 'cause Claire has a car. I'm sure this isn't the first time that Marten's been a topic of conversation, so Clairemom probably knew of him before today/last night.
And it's bad enough for Claire to run into Marten in her PJ's without the hair thing too. Sooooo not cool of her mom.You know, that is an excellent point, now that I think about it, especially given Claire's anxiety issues...
Also, Claire looks totally unrealistic. With hair that fluffy, I'm thinking she'd have epic bedhead.
And now I'm trying to come at how this happened. Chance encounter at the diner? (Why?)
AlsoFixed that for you.PJsClaire is super cute :3
Maybe there's a stupid simple solution: Claire's mother works at the diner. Which also explains why she is so sure her homemade pancakes are better.Which would mean that... Marten got up super-early, and she was at the end of her shift? Hrm.
That's not usually Jeph's style, and if he is doing that, that is bad and he should feel bad. (Needs a :zoidberg:.)
AlsoFixed that for you.PJsClaire is super cute :3Maybe there's a stupid simple solution: Claire's mother works at the diner. Which also explains why she is so sure her homemade pancakes are better.Which would mean that... Marten got up super-early, and she was at the end of her shift? Hrm.
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Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes.
Yeah, this kind of blindsided me as well. But you know, I think it's a good thing. They can now talk about what happened last night with each other in a more sober light. Without a lot of waffling back and forth on what they think, or getting ham-handed advice from friends.
Maybe Marten came over to Claire's house to invite her to pancakes, and her mother said in a very sweet but stern voice: "No, Marten, you are not eating greasy diner food. Come in, I will make pancakes.
Plausible, but doesn't quite fit Marten's explanation: "Your mom invited me over".
Claire's mother obviously knows about Marten - Claire couldn't possibly have stayed away for a night at Marten's dad's wedding without her knowing about it, and very likely met Marten before or after that trip. I guess she knew who Claire was with the previous night too.
Part of me wonders if a small part of Marten's needing to process the events of the night have to do with a certain sentiment he expressed in the past (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=615). I know Jeph's matured as both a writer and a person since all that time ago, but Marten's had considerably less in-comic time to reach the same level of maturity.Gods, I forgot how long winded this comic used to be. I was honestly getting tired reading all that, lol
Claire's still living at home. Odds are, she's never lived on her own before, and never quite had the responsibility that comes with that.While one can't automatically assume that what's true in this universe is true in the QC one... do you realise how outrageously rare having supportive parents is for girls like her? (Hint : average age of homeless trans children is 12 1/2, many, many get kicked out)
That mismatch in life experience can cause serious issues down the road.
While one can't automatically assume that what's true in this universe is true in the QC one... do you realise how outrageously rare having supportive parents is for girls like her? (Hint : average age of homeless trans children is 12 1/2, many, many get kicked out)Oh, I don't think her having family support is a bad thing at all, but I'm saying that her still living at home at 24 may present future problems in a relationship. (Of course, her not having relationship experience at all before will almost certainly present future problems...) I've known couples that have had problems with that, where one partner went straight from living with their parents to living with their partner. That's independent of Claire's family support structure (which, with the probable exception of her father, looks healthy... well, mostly, anyway, her mother probably should've known better than to send her to DEFCON 1 with that stunt).
That she has family support (parents, brother possibly accounts for her relatively good mental health.
Though I see an anxiety attack looming... if one doesn't happen now, I'd say they're gone.I'm pretty sure we're already seeing that starting as her brain slowly processes it.
If I was that age, woke up without having a chance to clean up, came downstairs to see Mum and prospective first boyfriend ever chatting it up after a night when I ended up in his arms.... anxious doesn't even begin to describe it. We're talking fullblown PANIC here.
Is noone else thinking that this could just be a dream? It seems unlikely enough, for sure.
This can only mean good things, in my mind. If Marten was willing to take Claire's mom up on the invitation, that means he wasn't completely freaked out about the happenings the night before. Otherwise, he would either not be there at all, or would look uncomfortable as hell. But buddy is smiling and genuine and sober and this can only lead to GOOD THINGS *clutches at face*
I dunno. If Marten realized he really had strong feelings for Claire, wouldn't he be all nervous to see her again so soon, particularly with her mother around?
Or he fell in love with Claire's mom... ...pancakes!Ah. Oedipus again. Please note the similarity to #1047 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1047). While I don't think Marten is in love with Claire's mom (and her pancakes), the theory cannot be ruled out. Stranger things have happened.
Is noone else thinking that this could just be a dream? It seems unlikely enough, for sure.
Has Jeph EVER done this?
Is noone else thinking that this could just be a dream? It seems unlikely enough, for sure.
Has Jeph EVER done this?
Never longer that for one strip at a time. Off the top of my mind, there was the one where Marten dreamed he woke up as Dora, the imagination bit where Hanners murders the construction workers, the evil Hanners clone, and the one mith moose-Dora.
Wait, is Claire's mom the hairdresser?
I can't recall the exact comic.
Claire's still living at home. Odds are, she's never lived on her own before, and never quite had the responsibility that comes with that.While one can't automatically assume that what's true in this universe is true in the QC one... do you realise how outrageously rare having supportive parents is for girls like her? (Hint : average age of homeless trans children is 12 1/2, many, many get kicked out)
That mismatch in life experience can cause serious issues down the road.
That she has family support (parents, brother ) possibly accounts for her relatively good mental health. Though I see an anxiety attack looming... if one doesn't happen now, I'd say they're gone.
If I was that age, woke up without having a chance to clean up, came downstairs to see Mum and prospective first boyfriend ever chatting it up after a night when I ended up in his arms.... anxious doesn't even begin to describe it. We're talking fullblown PANIC here.
I didn't see this coming. Jeph, you magnificent bastard.
I should also clarify (:claireface: ify? I'm sorry...)You win the thread.
What if Clairemom have stalked Marten for a long time without anybody noticing? And what if she was the one who pushed Claire on Marten?Not unless she was the reason Marten got a job at the library, and anticipating Claire would have her internship there. As far as we know, Tai was alone in her decision to give Marten his job. Claire's interest in librarianing is genuine.
Which is why I have four jobs!Well, we don't know of any other jobs that Claire does outside of interning in the library (which may even be unpaid, because unpaid internships are a thing in the US) and grad student-related duties. Basically, I don't think she has the income sources to pay for herself.
That would just be absurdly awkward if he's about to shoot Claire down.
She could easily have a fellowship, or various other forms of professional student income. But if she gets along with her mum, and it saves money, why the hell not? (totally OT). I once knew a professor who originally came from Mexico. He was actually heartbroken when his son moved out at 18, since he figured that the kid would stay until he was 25 or so. But since his son came up in American culture, he followed the US cultural "norm" of leaving around the age of majority.
Honestly, I think Marten would've refused the invitation if he weren't into Claire. That would just be absurdly awkward if he's about to shoot Claire down.
Heh! "Hi, your Mom invited me! I don't want to date you! Bye!"
I wish I got on well enough with my parents to live with them still; I frequently desperately miss my mum and I think I'd benefit from having them around more, especially when like today I'm not feeling well. Unfortunately this is outweighed by how much I need to live alone - not just away from my family but away from anyone. I haven't tried living with them since I started on my sanity pills; it might make a difference but at this point I can't see myself moving back in. That doesn't mean that I'm any more ready for a serious relationship than I would be if I were at home, though! Basically I don't think the two are necessarily linked.
We know the Augustus family is decently well off - they've paid ... a new car
Do we actually know that Claire did not borrow the car, from her mom most likely?Good point, I just checked, we don't know that.
This makes me so sad. Your avatar even more so.
This makes me so sad. Your avatar even more so.
Hehe it's not as bad as it sounds! My relationship with my parents is far better these days, they're my first line of support and the fact that there are four of them means I've always got someone to call on (it helps that the two sets keep opposite schedules, so at 8am on a Sunday morning when I've failed placement because I keep passing out I can call my mum, and last thing at night when I've got a fever and can't sleep I can Skype with my stepmum).
The avatar is actually from way back, when someone posted a whole sheet of different superheros and their secrets. A lot of us took different ones as our avatars for a while, but I kept mine because it's so perfect. I've achieved all this stuff that looks great on paper and I could be a bit of a high flyer but all I really want to do is settle down with a family, a cat and a couple of dogs. It'll come in its own time, I hope.
The avatar is actually from way back, when someone posted a whole sheet of different superheros and their secrets. A lot of us took different ones as our avatars for a while, but I kept mine because it's so perfect. I've achieved all this stuff that looks great on paper and I could be a bit of a high flyer but all I really want to do is settle down with a family, a cat and a couple of dogs. It'll come in its own time, I hope.
In the 'Claire's parents were broken up by Marten's Mom' hypothesis, it would be delightfully awkward to see Claire's mom and Veronica meet for the 'first' time.
Veronica :Hi! Nice to meet...
Clairemom : YOU! (Leaps at Veronica)
*Fight ensues*
Any Character: What the hell's going on?
Pintsize (with video camera): I have no idea, all I know is I'm going to make a lot of money off of it!
I suspect either Marten of Claire (more likely) told Clairemom what happened last night and she's trying to play matchmaker... Slightly more subtly than Veronica does with Marten.Veronica's way of playing "matchmaker" makes me facepalm, shake my head whilst facepalming, and sigh. There's no "slightly" here.
What do we know about Clairdad btw?
Since Clair and Clinton obviously takes after their mom, maybe we have been introduced to him unknowingly?
Could we see a return of Jimbo in the nearish future? :D
unholy, if you are referring to Claire's genitalia by "current status" I would like to point out that such discussion is strictly off limits due to the high potential of offending members of this community who are trans. You're new, so I would suggest a careful reading of the rules and a trip to the DISCUSS section to read the Trans thread if you have questions - they will almost certainly already have been answered there.
If Marten and Claire have a relationship, they'll have a relationship, and anything we see will likely be the same sheet-covered post-coital snuggles that other couples have demonstrated when the story calls for it.
Understood, no offense meant, and I hope none was perceived. I'll leave it at that. Thanks for the insight.
I seriously doubt Jimbo is Claire's dad, but I'd not be at all surprised to find out that he has a kid he rarely sees, in Canada or Arizona or France or somewhere. He seems like the sort of person with a complex and rarely-discussed past.
As far as we know (and to my recollection) the onl knowledge we know of Claire and Clinton's father is that he cheated on their mother and now they're divorced.
You know, one thing I've noticed with the art style... Jeph seems to draw mothers as taller than their (adult) children.
I am pretty much certain that Sam would have mentioned that she had a much older brother with a robot hand when she met Momo, if that were true...
Agreedo, Normally he would just avoid the situation. He clearly remember the almost-kiss and by going to her home, not "giving her space" says something. And if he was going to tell her that he wasn't interested he would probably not have agreed to come home with her mother. And, again, if he wants to think about it he usually "needs space" so I think the only logical conclusion is that he likes her.
Well we know Jim's ex-wife lives locally, in fact within walking distance of Jim's house - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957).
And siblings do sometimes live with different parents after a divorce....
Meh, there's nothing to contradict the theory, but it doesn't feel very likely..
We know the Augustus family is decently well off - they've paid ... a new car
Do we actually know that Claire did not borrow the car, from her mom most likely?
To me, Marten's look is even warmer than during the drunk hair/cuddle incident, plus a little shy and insecure.D'Accorde. (I agree)
(https://warosu.org/data/tg/img/0256/84/1372391550804.png)To me, Marten's look is even warmer than during the drunk hair/cuddle incident, plus a little shy and insecure.D'Accorde. (I agree)
Okay, just try and tell me I'm wrong. But Claire in panel two looks perfect if you replace her background with an explosion. Soooooo cooool!I can't believe no-one did this yet.
unholy, if you are referring to Claire's genitalia by "current status" I would like to point out that such discussion is strictly off limits due to the high potential of offending members of this community who are trans. You're new, so I would suggest a careful reading of the rules and a trip to the DISCUSS section to read the Trans thread if you have questions - they will almost certainly already have been answered there.
Really, most sit-down places that have breakfast are diners or are somewhat inspired by diners. And, yes, usually it's all-day breakfast at those places.Fast food hardly counts, since it's only barely food.
Also, fast food places often have breakfast during breakfast hours.
Also I'm jealous for you Americans for having breakfast restaurants and such.
It's kind of tone-deaf for him to be there either way
SOMEONE had to clean up Dale's bed!Oh my... :psyduck:
My prediction is going to be tomorrow will be a full page spread of Pintsize eating pancake batter.
My prediction is going to be tomorrow will be a full page spread of Pintsize eating pancake batter.
I was thinking that we haven't seen a grotesquely upclose shot of Yelling Bird's cloaca in a while...
My prediction is going to be tomorrow will be a full page spread of Pintsize eating pancake batter.
I was thinking that we haven't seen a grotesquely upclose shot of Yelling Bird's cloaca in a while...
I really hope we don't get a combination of those two.
My prediction is going to be tomorrow will be a full page spread of Pintsize eating pancake batter.
I was thinking that we haven't seen a grotesquely upclose shot of Yelling Bird's cloaca in a while...
I really hope we don't get a combination of those two.
The sheer mental image alone is enough to give C'Thulu nightmares, least of all us mortals.
Apologies if this is repetitive - I seem to have lost the first version ;-)
One thing that I haven't really seen mentioned so far (and forgive me if I've missed it, its been a rough day :-) ) If Claire's relationship with her mother is a good one - and from all the information we have been given so far, it does seem so - then that would surely entail a a strong element of protectiveness where Claire's life choices are concerned. Which would make Clairemum's endorsement of Marten all the more meaningful (IF that is what she is doing - it does look that way to me).
Really, most sit-down places that have breakfast are diners or are somewhat inspired by diners. And, yes, usually it's all-day breakfast at those places.
Jim's 41, way too young to have a 24 year old daughter, unless he was still in high school at the time.
Or was it more like "screw processing it, free pancakes!"The processing was supposed to come after pancakes
Heh! "Hi, your Mom invited me! I don't want to date you! Bye!"
"Hi! So, after you left last night, I went for a walk, and bumped into someone who I thought was you, one thing led to another and, well, to cut a long story short, your mom and I aredatingmarried now."
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/word/what-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Y'all are really making me want to go to Waffle House today. You know that, right?I would love to go to Waffle House right now, but it's all the way on the other side of town and the effort of walking 1.5 miles to my car to drive it there is defeating the will to go there.
Or BarberMom gave her magic product.QuoteAlso, Claire looks totally unrealistic. With hair that fluffy, I'm thinking she'd have epic bedhead.
Maybe it's not that she doesn't have bedhead. Maybe she ALWAYS has bedhead.
As an aside, all the talk about Claire's hair is much like my own; it's wild, wavy, poofy, and red (though considerably darker). Many jokes are had at the expense of my Medusa-like locks killing and/or maiming those around me.
In that case, Sam doesn't really look like either of her parents really, which is a little weird, especially in a comic.As far as we know (and to my recollection) the onl knowledge we know of Claire and Clinton's father is that he cheated on their mother and now they're divorced.
Well we know Jim's ex-wife lives locally, in fact within walking distance of Jim's house - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957).
And siblings do sometimes live with different parents after a divorce....
Meh, there's nothing to contradict the theory, but it doesn't feel very likely..
I am pretty much certain that Sam would have mentioned that she had a much older brother with a robot hand when she met Momo, if that were true...Sam might have mentioned that she had an older brother with a robot hand when she met Momo even if that weren't true.
Why was Mrs. Augustus at a diner?
How on Hanner's clean earth did Momma Claire knows Marten was making pancackes?.
How on Hanner's clean earth did Momma Claire knows Marten was making pancackes?.
Here is an even simpler solution: Marten called to invite Claire out for breakfast pancakes with the idea of talking to Claire about things over breakfast.And now I'm trying to come at how this happened. Chance encounter at the diner? (Why?)Maybe there's a stupid simple solution: Claire's mother works at the diner. Which also explains why she is so sure her homemade pancakes are better.
They take a simultaneous coffee shot and then Clairemom adds: "So, when are you kids announcing the engagement?" Cue perfectly-synchronised caffeine nose-splosion. Claire shouts: "MOOO-OOOM!" :-D
Hello all! New member freshly registered after about a year of lurking, mostly because I wanted to participate in this thread (yes, I know, I know...).
Anyway, I have an idea of how Marten came to be in Claire's house.
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As an aside, all the talk about Claire's hair is much like my own; it's wild, wavy, poofy, and red (though considerably darker). Many jokes are had at the expense of my Medusa-like locks killing and/or maiming those around me.
C-c-c-cosplay?
Here is an even simpler solution: Marten called to invite Claire out for breakfast pancakes with the idea of talking to Claire about things over breakfast.
2. The later elements of your idea - with everyone happily pairing off - just seem super implausible.
Here is an even simpler solution: Marten called to invite Claire out for breakfast pancakes with the idea of talking to Claire about things over breakfast.
Claire's mother insisted he come over and he, not wanting to make a fuss, goes with the flow.
That is very Marten.
Here is an even simpler solution: Marten called to invite Claire out for breakfast pancakes with the idea of talking to Claire about things over breakfast.
Claire's mother insisted he come over and he, not wanting to make a fuss, goes with the flow.
That is very Marten.
Called a ground line? Nah, he'd have Claire's cell
Hello all! New member freshly registered after about a year of lurking, mostly because I wanted to participate in this thread (yes, I know, I know...).
Anyway, I have an idea of how Marten came to be in Claire's house. ...
As one newbie to another, that is awesome!!! :-D
I really don't see Claire moving in with Marten, if she decided against kissing him when he was drunk. She is much too cautious and sensible to do something as rash as that.
In the interest of contributing on our path to 20 pages, I'll toss this out.:
I think Our Benevolent Comic Overlord is going to string us along for another week or two. ...
In the interest of contributing on our path to 20 pages, I'll toss this out.:
I think Our Benevolent Comic Overlord is going to string us along for another week or two. ...
Yup, I think that's the most likely result too. Not putting any hopes out there today ;-)
No, tonight's strip will probably circle back to one of the other characters, and we'll see the developments/consequences/fallout of last night's on Monday.
I just have to say that I love the polls and their options- kudos to whoever does them!
No, tonight's strip will probably circle back to one of the other characters, and we'll see the developments/consequences/fallout of last night's on Monday.
I like your optimism :-) QC has been the high point of my week so far - the rest of it has been crap - so whatever is posted today will be grand :-) (I work in the federal bureaucracy in Australia - for the last year, it feels like we've been working for Lord Voldemort).
You have my condolences. I'd been wondering if it was as bad as it looked from here.
You have my condolences. I'd been wondering if it was as bad as it looked from here.
It is probably worse than it looks, although I think we are just playing catch-up with the US and UK (with apologies to anyone who thinks things are ok in those countries, but WTF!?!) Its the breathtaking stupidity that really fucks with my head...
I just have to say that I love the polls and their options- kudos to whoever does them!
It's only a diner if A: it's open 24 hours, and B: you can get pancakes (or a cheeseburger) any damn time you walk in. Otherwise, it's just a restaurant, or a luncheonette.I saw this and immediately thought "someone's from Jersey". I then checked your profile and...yep!
Not to mention Clinton popping out like an overprotective jack-in-the-box.
It's only a diner if A: it's open 24 hours, and B: you can get pancakes (or a cheeseburger) any damn time you walk in. Otherwise, it's just a restaurant, or a luncheonette.I saw this and immediately thought "someone's from Jersey". I then checked your profile and...yep!
(If I ever leave Jersey for good, I'll have to go to a diner every time I visit)
You know, as a random thought re: Clinton's overprotectiveness... I wonder if Clinton is actually consciously trying to be a father figure to Claire (given that their actual father is absent), even though he's actually her younger brother.
I wonder if Clinton is actually consciously trying to be a father figure to Claire (given that their actual father is absent), even though he's actually her younger brother.
No apology needed (at least on my account). It's not one of our better exports. :P
You know, as a random thought re: Clinton's overprotectiveness... I wonder if Clinton is actually consciously trying to be a father figure to Claire (given that their actual father is absent), even though he's actually her younger brother.
Mind you, there is the DISCUSS subforum for political stuff...
Plot twist for Friday
Yelling Bird watching Steve eat cereal.
Plot twist for Friday
Yelling Bird watching Steve eat cereal.
"I DARE YOU TO STUFF CORNFLAKES IN MY CLOACA"
"Dude, what's wrong with you?"
"A LACK OF CORNFLAKES IN MY CLOACA YOU FUCKING COCKSTAIN, GET TO IT!"
Plot twist for Friday
Yelling Bird watching Steve eat cereal.
"I DARE YOU TO STUFF CORNFLAKES IN MY CLOACA"
"Dude, what's wrong with you?"
"A LACK OF CORNFLAKES IN MY CLOACA YOU FUCKING COCKSTAIN, GET TO IT!"
Y'all are really making me want to go to Waffle House today. You know that, right?I would love to go to Waffle House right now, but it's all the way on the other side of town and the effort of walking 1.5 miles to my car to drive it there is defeating the will to go there.
In other words, I'm being lazy.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
... but it's a whole 4 miles away. I have to drive all the way to I-35, and go like two exits...Y'all are really making me want to go to Waffle House today. You know that, right?I would love to go to Waffle House right now, but it's all the way on the other side of town and the effort of walking 1.5 miles to my car to drive it there is defeating the will to go there.
In other words, I'm being lazy.
ARRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
Y'all are really making me want to go to Waffle House today. You know that, right?I would love to go to Waffle House right now, but it's all the way on the other side of town and the effort of walking 1.5 miles to my car to drive it there is defeating the will to go there.
In other words, I'm being lazy.
ARRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
No matter how long it takes, I will have my Clinton Rocket Punch.
ARRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
As an aside, all the talk about Claire's hair is much like my own; it's wild, wavy, poofy, and red (though considerably darker). Many jokes are had at the expense of my Medusa-like locks killing and/or maiming those around me.
C-c-c-cosplay?
Oh no. I was viciously beaten awhile back and I'm not too keen on my appearance since. My hair and weight is all I have going for me at the moment. Oh, and boobs. Glorious boobs. Maybe I just think so since I waited so long for them...
Claire's still living at home. Odds are, she's never lived on her own before, and never quite had the responsibility that comes with that.While one can't automatically assume that what's true in this universe is true in the QC one... do you realise how outrageously rare having supportive parents is for girls like her? (Hint : average age of homeless trans children is 12 1/2, many, many get kicked out)
That mismatch in life experience can cause serious issues down the road.
That she has family support (parents, brother ) possibly accounts for her relatively good mental health. Though I see an anxiety attack looming... if one doesn't happen now, I'd say they're gone.
If I was that age, woke up without having a chance to clean up, came downstairs to see Mum and prospective first boyfriend ever chatting it up after a night when I ended up in his arms.... anxious doesn't even begin to describe it. We're talking fullblown PANIC here.
I didn't see this coming. Jeph, you magnificent bastard.
There is the possibility that Claire have gotten hurt in the past by guys, other than her dad. It would explain Clintons skeptical nature towards Marten
Anyways: does no one remember that Claire had her PJ's on when she was at the wedding with Marten?You're right, I did forget that. It still doesn't totally compare with this situation, though, since those were the particular PJ's she chose to pack when she knew she'd be seen by a boy... and the top half is a lot more covering than the one she's wearing now.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
Since we're on the topic of pancakes, waffles, and other assorted breakfast dishes (any love for French toast?), the absolute best place I've had pancakes was from Cracker Barrel. Huge pancakes and the syrup they give you comes in little glass bottles that's heated and REAL maple syrup. So good, but they're a bit pricey.
This is getting to the point where we need a diner thread.
But if you're ever in Durham, North Carolina, go to Elmo's Diner for breakfast. Everybody else in town does.
OMG thank you so much I thought everyone was just ignoring my post that had amazing potential!Okay, just try and tell me I'm wrong. But Claire in panel two looks perfect if you replace her background with an explosion. Soooooo cooool!I can't believe no-one did this yet.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/91011134/OTT/clairesplosion.png)
Regarding the whole intern thing - I think it could be possible that Marten had subconcious feelings for Claire before and he rationalized him not wanting to start anything with Emily by the intern thing.
At least that's what my subconcious would most likely do...
I didn't see it if anyone replied to my question. Is not knowing how to cook a generational thing? I'm an Xer, and everyone from my generation knows and likes to cook. It's not as if it's hard. Nobody in this strip seems to know how to cook, and is worried about money all the time. Cooking saves time and money. Heck, I'd buy Marten and Faye a slow cooker if they don't really want to learn. Slow cookers are great. Put the ingredients in, turn it on, and when they get home there'd be food.
Our stovetop is slightly inclined, which makes making pancakes kinda difficult. But I bought materials for pancakes today. Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.
I didn't see it if anyone replied to my question. Is not knowing how to cook a generational thing? I'm an Xer, and everyone from my generation knows and likes to cook. It's not as if it's hard. Nobody in this strip seems to know how to cook, and is worried about money all the time.I know how to cook, and I'm actually quite good at it. I'm also rather lazy and half the time just throw together a sandwich or salad, because I HATE prep-work. The main cast might just live on a diet of cereal or things that are easily thrown together. And of course, at least Hanners and Sven don't have to worry about money.
I know how to cook, and I'm actually quite good at it. I'm also rather lazy and half the time just throw together a sandwich or salad, because I HATE prep-work. ... quote trimmed
(snip) I also like to get take out for food I can't easily cook at home, like thai, indian, cajun and sushi.
I know I can't cook but that's only because I'm not in a situation right now in my life that would afford me the chance to learn how to cook. Born in '85, that makes me what? A millenial? I can't keep track of these generations.
Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Well we know Jim's ex-wife lives locally, in fact within walking distance of Jim's house - http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1957).
And siblings do sometimes live with different parents after a divorce....
Meh, there's nothing to contradict the theory, but it doesn't feel very likely..
Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Is something unusual happening with the tree in the final two panels?It can see the pancakes but can't reach them.
It looks... hungry...
'Cause you live in one of those civilized countries where people don't just work all the friggin' time.Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Yes. Like on Sundays.
EVERY Sunday? :psyduck: Even in counties here with blue laws there are exceptions for groceries.Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Yes. Like on Sundays.
EVERY Sunday? :psyduck: Even in counties here with blue laws there are exceptions for groceries.Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Yes. Like on Sundays.
I didn't see it if anyone replied to my question. Is not knowing how to cook a generational thing? I'm an Xer, and everyone from my generation knows and likes to cook. It's not as if it's hard. Nobody in this strip seems to know how to cook, and is worried about money all the time. Cooking saves time and money. Heck, I'd buy Marten and Faye a slow cooker if they don't really want to learn. Slow cookers are great. Put the ingredients in, turn it on, and when they get home there'd be food.
I saw your question, and was wondering the same thing. I'm not sure if it's a generational thing (Gen X here as well), or if it's more of a narrative thing... or maybe both? Doesn't anybody do potlucks any more, even if they don't call them that?
I didn't see it if anyone replied to my question. Is not knowing how to cook a generational thing? I'm an Xer, and everyone from my generation knows and likes to cook. It's not as if it's hard. Nobody in this strip seems to know how to cook, and is worried about money all the time. Cooking saves time and money. Heck, I'd buy Marten and Faye a slow cooker if they don't really want to learn. Slow cookers are great. Put the ingredients in, turn it on, and when they get home there'd be food.
I was talking about the pancakes exclusively.Or he fell in love with Claire's mom... ...pancakes!Ah. Oedipus again. Please note the similarity to #1047 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1047). While I don't think Marten is in love with Claire's mom (and her pancakes), the theory cannot be ruled out. Stranger things have happened.
We already know that Claire's parents are divorced (#2371 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371)). In today's strip, it becomes clear that Claire lives with her mother. Marten's presence is a bit of a mystery, but several plausible theories have already been presented. What is strange, is how cool he appears. Obviously, he has thought things through, and knows how to handle the situation.
Is it possible that Clinton also lives with his mom? Are they part of an extended red-haired clone family? If so, there will be drama when he awakes. Marten might have to fight his robot hand.
EVERY Sunday? :psyduck: Even in counties here with blue laws there are exceptions for groceries.Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Yes. Like on Sundays.
There are some food staples you can't just keep on hand - and aren't easily made in a small apartment that is taking up most of your paycheck for rent.
Oh yeah, it's been 25 years since I lived in Germany. I remember that.EVERY Sunday? :psyduck: Even in counties here with blue laws there are exceptions for groceries.Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.Wait, even the grocery stores are closed? :psyduck:
Yes. Like on Sundays.
There are only a few towns in Germany in which stores are allowed to be open on Sundays (that is spa towns and similar, basically most of the towns preceded by "Bad"). In northern Germany, where I grew up, grocery stores are usually open from 08:00 to 20:00 (8 am to 8 pm). I'm still a little baffled that the stores around here (southern Germany) are open from 07:30 to 22:00 on average. The longest I've seen was 07:00 to 24:00.
Many other stores close at 18:00 already. Drug stores, pharmacies, basically most non-food stores. Bakeries usually open earlier (some as early as 05:30), but usually close at 18:00 as well. Bakeries are allowed to be open on Sundays, but only until around noon.
National holidays are usually just the same as Sundays. For some of them there are some additional rules though. On Good Friday e.g. it's forbidden to dance to music and stuff like that, because it "contrasts the solemn nature of the day".
I used to be that way. Then I got the diabetes. Now veggies are the bulk of my lowish carb diet. Yuck.There are some food staples you can't just keep on hand - and aren't easily made in a small apartment that is taking up most of your paycheck for rent.
Here apartments are required to having working fridges, stoves, and ovens, so the 'aren't easily made' part doesn't apply very often, but yes.
Know what is so hard to keep eating? Fruits and vegetables. Fuck.
On Good Friday e.g. it's forbidden to dance to music and stuff like that, because it "contrasts the solemn nature of the day".Wait, is this actually enforced? I didn't know Germany was particularly religious.
I used to be that way. Then I got the diabetes. Now veggies are the bulk of my lowish carb diet. Yuck.There are some food staples you can't just keep on hand - and aren't easily made in a small apartment that is taking up most of your paycheck for rent.
Here apartments are required to having working fridges, stoves, and ovens, so the 'aren't easily made' part doesn't apply very often, but yes.
Know what is so hard to keep eating? Fruits and vegetables. Fuck.
I love fruits and vegetables. I just can't buy them enough and it sucks. And if I can get them on sale then they go bad before I finish them.
I guess I should just go buy the cheapest apple or something at the store each day.
On Good Friday e.g. it's forbidden to dance to music and stuff like that, because it "contrasts the solemn nature of the day".Wait, is this actually enforced? I didn't know Germany was particularly religious.
I could cook, but it sucks cooking for one, so I don't.cook for two then eat both.
I could cook, but it sucks cooking for one, so I don't.
soup for one, salad for one, wine for three...
Our stovetop is slightly inclined, which makes making pancakes kinda difficult. But I bought materials for pancakes today. Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.
Inclined which way? You can usually adjust the legs (or just add shims) to level it off if it's causing you issues.
Explicitly calling Claire and getting Clairemom instead? (Could be a sign of Clairemom being rather meddling...)
Don't do that! I slowly got some weight and now I have to burn them.I could cook, but it sucks cooking for one, so I don't.cook for two then eat both.
Well, it's built into the counter (just two hotplates, no oven), which is built on top of the cabinet, which is bolted to the wall. There is no way to fix that without ripping the whole kitchen apart.
That's pretty much what I do. I make enough for four meals, then end up eating the same thing for two days...I could cook, but it sucks cooking for one, so I don't.cook for two then eat both.
That's pretty much what I do. I make enough for four meals, then end up eating the same thing for two days...
Huh. Picking up her mobile? Not so cool in my book, but maybe Claire's fine with that.
... what are you doing right now?... she talks about you all the time.
Lose the call? Wouldn't it show up as a missed call and possibly a voicemail?
Did not see that one coming, especially after his "I need pancakes before "Yeah I thought he was going to have pancakes THEN deal with shit, but he called her before pancakes. Maybe he just wanted to meet up after pancakes.
Marten's face in page 4 is great. He doesn't even care about the drama in front of him, he's just really enjoying his pancakesI interpreted him as intently staring at his plate in order to avoid engaging in the drama in front of him. Either way, it's funny.
Yeah I thought he was going to have pancakes THEN deal with shit, but he called her before pancakes.Or he might have called her from the diner in the middle of his breakfast 'cause by the time he'd finished the first pancake, he'd processed things enough to know he wanted to talk to Claire.
And by predicting this, I guarantee that it will not happen.Bloody Ork scum always messing shit up god damn
Or he might have called her from the diner in the middle of his breakfast 'cause by the time he'd finished the first pancake, he'd processed things enough to know he wanted to talk to Claire.Ahh yes that does make the sense.
Did not see that one coming, especially after his "I need pancakes before "Yeah I thought he was going to have pancakes THEN deal with shit, but he called her before pancakes. Maybe he just wanted to meet up after pancakes.
Pancakes.
Then, just to be a little cruel, cue Clinton walking in. :evil:Oh my god this is so evil pleeeeease have this happen.
quote trimmedAnd by predicting this, I guarantee that it will not happen.Bloody Ork scum always messing shit up god damn
That's why I love freezer.That's pretty much what I do. I make enough for four meals, then end up eating the same thing for two days...I could cook, but it sucks cooking for one, so I don't.cook for two then eat both.
I do note that the thin lips seem to be a shared trait among the Augustus ladies.Based on the discussion i think that the most likely it is just Jeph's style evolution. Like how characters who had thick lips lost them or were replaced by robots that by the way all lack thick lips.
Re: Marten being so blase about this situation: his mom is Veronica Reed. This sort of drama is probably normal breakfast table conversation for him.
quote trimmedAnd by predicting this, I guarantee that it will not happen.Bloody Ork scum always messing shit up god damn
That's just a bit orkish sympathetic magick of the "give me the reverse of what I predict" variety - it'll takes more than this to get the universe to change course ;-) I'm not saying that I know what that course might be, mind, but I am liking today's strip very much :-)
I just noticed the bit where Claire's mom says, "I was just about to get her up," as if she's in the general habit of waking Claire up in the morning--she really hasn't grasped the concept that her daughter is 26 years old, has she?
Apparently Clairemom only wears her glasses while cooking.
And I believe that we can hit 30 pages by Monday, just in time for a comic in which good things to happen to Marten and Claire. If it doesn't happen, then it's everyone else's fault for not believing harder than I was believing.quote trimmed
I think that the real reason people (intentionally) become parents isn't to carry on the family name, or out of biological urge to continue the species, but solely to make their offspring as uncomfortable as possible.
Yup. Many people nailed it. I'm in the camp thinking this may get strung out enough to hit Thanksgiving before this ship truly sinks or sails.
I like Claire's ringtone.You and me both :D
Of course, there is a magic curse that comes with this: "I hope you have kids who are just like you."Meh, if they were perfect genetic copies, it might inspire me to want to breed, just so I'd have spare parts lined-up.
I just noticed the bit where Claire's mom says, "I was just about to get her up," as if she's in the general habit of waking Claire up in the morning--she really hasn't grasped the concept that her daughter is 26 years old, has she?
Lose the call? Wouldn't it show up as a missed call and possibly a voicemail?
Mom's brain works differently than others. She doesn't even have a cell phone, so she thinks that if someone calls me on mine I might lose the call. Like it's a land-line. Sorry, I should have explained better.
Yes. He I think he was, but I feel Claire's Mom's invite was for Claire's safety, more than anything else. There are hurdles, some of which have been jumped, and some of which might spring up suddenly, or stay flat. Much better to have the discussion in a safe place such as their home.Assuming it means she'll give them some alone time (not ~~alooone time~~ but time alone and out of earshot), this would be super nice/well planned and kind of adorable of her mom to do. With the possible discussion of trans issues (which I hope is off camera, because I don't think the audience needs to know Claire's exacts), as well as the general awkwardness, might be best not in public.
Should the hurdles exist? No.
Do they? Unfortunatly so.
RL Thanksgiving, or in comic Thanksgiving? Because, you know, Thanksgiving is only in 1 1/2 weeks.Dead giveaway for Canadian: October Thanksgiving. I'd think I'd have noticed if I missed an entire month and warped into November.
I never thought I wanted Clinton to appear again, but yes pleeeease!Then, just to be a little cruel, cue Clinton walking in. :evil:Oh my god this is so evil pleeeeease have this happen.
I didn't see it if anyone replied to my question. Is not knowing how to cook a generational thing? I'm an Xer, and everyone from my generation knows and likes to cook. It's not as if it's hard. Nobody in this strip seems to know how to cook, and is worried about money all the time. Cooking saves time and money. Heck, I'd buy Marten and Faye a slow cooker if they don't really want to learn. Slow cookers are great. Put the ingredients in, turn it on, and when they get home there'd be food.I agree. Going out often is a bad idea when you're short on money and cooking is really not that hard, just time consuming. Also, the food that you eat when you eat at a cheap place is often really unhealthy (fast food, I mean).
I think the entire reason this could work out between Marten & Claire is that he's so chilled around her. No angst, no stress, he just accepts her as she is and enjoys her company as it is, whether that's regular chat over coffee or at work, terrible-cute puns, or more personal moments such as sharing one's sexuality or post-beer back scratches.Transgender isnt a sexuality though :) other then that great post. unless she told him her sexuality and I've just completely missed it? in which case I fele sutpid. :psyduck:
Perhaps because Claire trusted him and valued his friendship enough to share such a private matter as her sexuality so early in their friendship, this has deepened the ease he has around her and strengthened their connection (perhaps without him overtly realising). Even if he saw her as just a friend at first, the best relationships often evolve from such a start-point, and for Captain Angst this start point of zero expectations must be a new and refreshingly untroubled way for a relationship to evolve!
Oh, and as for Marten's countenance during The Discussion twixt Claire & ClaireMum, to me it's simply, MMM PANCAKESSSS... The details of his breakfasty presence aren't as important to him as they are to Claire, and ClaireMum is clearly saying nothing new to him, no story, simply the nuts of what happened for him to have ended up there. Claire is the one more angsty about their evolving relationship due to her crush, not Marten. He was probably going to invite her out for pancakes in a chilled way anyway..
Yeah that melted my brain for a second.RL Thanksgiving, or in comic Thanksgiving? Because, you know, Thanksgiving is only in 1 1/2 weeks.Dead giveaway for Canadian: October Thanksgiving. I'd think I'd have noticed if I missed an entire month and warped into November.
Ork magick/psykers consist of believing that something will work, and therefore it works. Which is why red ones go faster: the mekboy who painted it thinks red paint makes it faster, so therefore red paint makes it faster.
I read a lot of blogs written by Americans, and whenever they post about how to save money, one of the tips is "don't go out to eat every day, try to limit it to two or three times a week". Another one that blows my mind is "you can wear your jeans twice before you wash them!".
The contents of my pockets often end up dispersed around my apartment in a trail of things, towards the back room, although usually the phones make it to the back.
That said, before I moved out, they always made it to my bedroom, and in fact they often stayed on my person before my dad moved out.
Folks, I'm still hungry, and I still don't think there are any real breakfast restaurants in this whole country.
Folks, I'm still hungry, and I still don't think there are any real breakfast restaurants in this whole country.
Matt's Big Breakfast in downtown Phoenix will pwn your tastebuds.
I think the entire reason this could work out between Marten & Claire is that he's so chilled around her. No angst, no stress, he just accepts her as she is and enjoys her company as it is, whether that's regular chat over coffee or at work, terrible-cute puns, or more personal moments such as sharing one's sexuality or post-beer back scratches.Transgender isnt a sexuality though :) other then that great post. unless she told him her sexuality and I've just completely missed it? in which case I fele sutpid. :psyduck:
Perhaps because Claire trusted him and valued his friendship enough to share such a private matter as her sexuality so early in their friendship, this has deepened the ease he has around her and strengthened their connection (perhaps without him overtly realising). Even if he saw her as just a friend at first, the best relationships often evolve from such a start-point, and for Captain Angst this start point of zero expectations must be a new and refreshingly untroubled way for a relationship to evolve!
Oh, and as for Marten's countenance during The Discussion twixt Claire & ClaireMum, to me it's simply, MMM PANCAKESSSS... The details of his breakfasty presence aren't as important to him as they are to Claire, and ClaireMum is clearly saying nothing new to him, no story, simply the nuts of what happened for him to have ended up there. Claire is the one more angsty about their evolving relationship due to her crush, not Marten. He was probably going to invite her out for pancakes in a chilled way anyway..
Folks, I'm still hungry, and I still don't think there are any real breakfast restaurants in this whole country.
Matt's Big Breakfast in downtown Phoenix will pwn your tastebuds.
It won't be time for breakfast anymore by the time ankhtahr gets there from Germany...
Edit: Woo, 400 posts!
That wasn't a reply to Marten, she was sort of talking to herself. And it hasn't been established who she thought was lucky.
That wasn't a reply to Marten, she was sort of talking to herself. And it hasn't been established who she thought was lucky.
I believe she asked Marten: "You and Dora used to date?" and Marten replied in the affirmative, and Claire then said (out loud) "Luckyyyy." I concede that my interpretation isn't rock solid, but it seems to me the most obvious. If she was remarking on Dora's luckiness, I think it would need to be phrased differently. Put yourself in this social situation. It's odd to apply her comment to Dora.
That wasn't a reply to Marten, she was sort of talking to herself. And it hasn't been established who she thought was lucky.
I believe she asked Marten: "You and Dora used to date?" and Marten replied in the affirmative, and Claire then said (out loud) "Luckyyyy." I concede that my interpretation isn't rock solid, but it seems to me the most obvious. If she was remarking on Dora's luckiness, I think it would need to be phrased differently. Put yourself in this social situation. It's odd to apply her comment to Dora.
Only twice? I think I can get three or four wearings from the same pair (not consecutively) before I actually throw them in the wash.
ETA: Found the comic. Claire's phrasing is actually "YOU used to date Dora?" followed by "Lucky...." The fact that Marten is the grammatical subject of Claire's inquiry adds weight to my interpretation, IMO.Comparing Dora and Marten's relationship to a rollercoaster is... more than adequate.
"You rode the rollercoaster? Luckyyyy..."
No one's gonna think you're saying the rollercoaster is lucky.
I've got the feeling that Claire's mother is currently in "Let's find a nice young man for my little girl" mode. There is a definite chance that, at some point, she's going to start singing the praises for Claire's home-making skills.
Personally, I think she's only into men, she's never been shown as attracted to a woman (although she has stated that Marten's friends are all attractive, but that doesn't mean that she's attracted to them (except for Steve)).
And then there's this, although it's definitely not conclusive for several reasons: http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2531shoes.
I didn't see it if anyone replied to my question. Is not knowing how to cook a generational thing? I'm an Xer, and everyone from my generation knows and likes to cook. It's not as if it's hard. Nobody in this strip seems to know how to cook, and is worried about money all the time. Cooking saves time and money. Heck, I'd buy Marten and Faye a slow cooker if they don't really want to learn. Slow cookers are great. Put the ingredients in, turn it on, and when they get home there'd be food.I agree. Going out often is a bad idea when you're short on money and cooking is really not that hard, just time consuming. Also, the food that you eat when you eat at a cheap place is often really unhealthy (fast food, I mean).
From consuming American media (which majorly influences my image of the US, since I've never actually been there; of course I realise that this is not necessarily reality) I got the impression that it is very common in the US to either go out to eat or to get take-away to eat at home instead of preparing it oneself. Is this a narrative device that American authors use? Maybe some Americans in the forum can comment on their experiences.
PS: Hanners cooks. I recall a sequence of comics where she had a large kitchen knife and looked like she was just using it.
Personally, I think she's only into men, she's never been shown as attracted to a woman (although she has stated that Marten's friends are all attractive, but that doesn't mean that she's attracted to them (except for Steve)).
I'd like to think Marten was inviting Claire for pancakes. So they could have the discussion about what happened last night, before meeting at work where they'd run the risk of Tai/Emily/Momo interrupting.
I'd like to think Marten was inviting Claire for pancakes.
It would probably end with more exclamations of "MOM", probably accompanied by Claire making a face. It would parallel what happened at the wedding.I've got the feeling that Claire's mother is currently in "Let's find a nice young man for my little girl" mode. There is a definite chance that, at some point, she's going to start singing the praises for Claire's home-making skills.
I really want to see that now :lol:
"Marten Reed" is a very 'Claire' way of having his name on her phone. Formal.This may date back from the early days of their work relationship.
FWIW, I think that the ring-tone for Marten is "Ape Man" by The Kinks. Listen to the lyrics of the chorus and you've got to admit that it sounds a bit like Marten.Considering the album that that song was released on, that has... interesting... implications.
Dora is the roller coaster? Good analogy. The term "riding the roller coaster" suddenly gets a new meaning. Previous meaning here (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Riding+the+Roller+Coaster).ETA: Found the comic. Claire's phrasing is actually "YOU used to date Dora?" followed by "Lucky...." The fact that Marten is the grammatical subject of Claire's inquiry adds weight to my interpretation, IMO.Comparing Dora and Marten's relationship to a rollercoaster is... more than adequate.
"You rode the rollercoaster? Luckyyyy..."
No one's gonna think you're saying the rollercoaster is lucky.
I could cook, but it sucks cooking for one, so I don't.
I'd like to think Marten was inviting Claire for pancakes. So they could have the discussion about what happened last night, before meeting at work where they'd run the risk of Tai/Emily/Momo interrupting.
This. When I lived alone, I almost never cooked. I can cook, and I have no problem with it, but it is not cheaper to cook when you're cooking for one and you don't want to be stuck eating leftovers constantly.Welcome, new person! I guess it depends on several factors:
Marten is just like "She's right. These pancakes are much better."He is isn't he? I imaging him thinking that in a Samuel L. Jackson voice: "Mmm-hmm! This is a tasty pancake!"
Marten's all like "Mmm-mmmm. That is a tasty pancake! Claire, ever had your mom's pancakes? Wanna bite? They're real tasty."
On Good Friday e.g. it's forbidden to dance to music and stuff like that, because it "contrasts the solemn nature of the day".Wait, is this actually enforced? I didn't know Germany was particularly religious.
Well, it's good to have established that it wasn't butts that made May's hand melt...
I don't understand how it can ever be cheaper to go out to eat rather than cook for yourself. I spend about £20 a week on food. Where are you eating that costs less than £1 a meal?
But someone said it was cheaper because they lived alone.
Well, it's good to have established that it wasn't butts that made May's hand melt...
I'd think twice and then check myself in for a psychiatric evaluation before asking May to touch a butt. Think about her personality and her general attitude about humans - She'd likely rip them off!
Another thing I've never understood from these lifestyle "advice" blogs is how they take it for granted that people won't eat leftovers. I only ever have leftovers when I've deliberately cooked double or triple what I need, so that I can have it again without needing to cook a second time. And why would you not want to be able to eat without cooking again or spending a fortune at a restaurant?
jwhouk, I don't understand how eating out can be cheaper than buying raw ingredients - surely the restaurants also have to buy raw ingredients? I know there's usually a cheaper wholesale price but that's offset by the profit margin and overheads.
jwhouk, I don't understand how eating out can be cheaper than buying raw ingredients - surely the restaurants also have to buy raw ingredients? I know there's usually a cheaper wholesale price but that's offset by the profit margin and overheads.
There was a program on the TV with one of those British cooks who are famous mostly for being famous. I haven't seen it, only had it refered. He tried to teach a poor family in some US city to cook healthy meals. While they liked the food, they went back to junk food take away. They could not afford home cooking. This was a family with several kids.
I don't understand how it can ever be cheaper to go out to eat rather than cook for yourself. I spend about £20 a week on food. Where are you eating that costs less than £1 a meal?
It's not that it's cheaper, it's that a significant number of American workers, between the standard 40-hour work week, 5-15 hours of overtime every week, up to an hour or two spent commuting, and errands, are out of the house for 12-14 hours a day. Assuming that you gotta get some sleep sooner or later, spending another hour or two on cooking and cleaning the mess you made while cooking just isn't feasible to do every day.
I've had this pair of jeans on for substantially longer than people here are suggesting is acceptable.
Marten asks Claire out. Claire objects on the grounds that he's her supervisor. Marten adds that he's going to resign. Claire looks upset.
Has she ever shown any indication that him being (technically) above her would stop her from dating him?
But I bought materials for pancakes today. Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.
But I bought materials for pancakes today. Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.
yay, moronic flatmate.
He left the flour open, as well as the cabinet, and I wasn't in the kitchen for quite a while, and fucking spiders had built a nest in the flour package. The fuck.
So now I had some weird failed omelette/scrambled eggs monstrosity which contained far too much milk and thus tasted sweet, because of the sugar in the milk.
It's not that it's cheaper, it's that a significant number of American workers, between the standard 40-hour work week, 5-15 hours of overtime every week, up to an hour or two spent commuting, and errands, are out of the house for 12-14 hours a day. Assuming that you gotta get some sleep sooner or later, spending another hour or two on cooking and cleaning the mess you made while cooking just isn't feasible to do every day.
This. My wife is an emergency room doctor, and I work in a very competitive tech industry. We are both out of the house at 8am and returning around 7pm, starving and exhausted. It is far easier to call during my commute and place a takeout order at one of the 15 restaurants a block from my home so we are eating by 7:15. Afterwards we just throw away the takeout containers and I spend time with my wife as opposed to cleaning and doing dishes. I will cook on weekends when I have the time.
In this case, I suppose you can consider takeout "cheaper" from a time perspective. I work so much that my free time is 100% as valuable to me as my work hours, so any removal of free time to do unenjoyable or time-consuming chores is a net-loss. If you look at things holistically, everything can be expressed in terms of utility, and the utility of my time spent cooking and cleaning is worth far less to me than the possibility of spending my time doing other things minus the utility of the cost of more expensive food.
QuoteHas she ever shown any indication that him being (technically) above her would stop her from dating him?
She says here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2796) that it would be "highly inappropriate given [their] professional relationship". Whether that is just so much quacking as Faye suggests is anyone's guess.
Another Jamie tip: Freezers.jwhouk, I don't understand how eating out can be cheaper than buying raw ingredients - surely the restaurants also have to buy raw ingredients? I know there's usually a cheaper wholesale price but that's offset by the profit margin and overheads.
There was a program on the TV with one of those British cooks who are famous mostly for being famous. I haven't seen it, only had it refered. He tried to teach a poor family in some US city to cook healthy meals. While they liked the food, they went back to junk food take away. They could not afford home cooking. This was a family with several kids.
The naked chef! Jamie Oliver!
And seriously, I can't recommend a rice cooker enough, you don't need to waste your hot plate, you can cook and steam at the same time, and it's good for soup and anything else liquid too.
Also, yay veg ppl :)
But I bought materials for pancakes today. Tomorrow is national holiday, so I can't go buy food.
yay, moronic flatmate.
He left the flour open, as well as the cabinet, and I wasn't in the kitchen for quite a while, and fucking spiders had built a nest in the flour package. The fuck.
So now I had some weird failed omelette/scrambled eggs monstrosity which contained far too much milk and thus tasted sweet, because of the sugar in the milk.
any removal of free time to do unenjoyable or time-consuming chores is a net-loss.
Sift! Seriously, invest in a good sifter. They used to be standard in households, because bugs were an unstoppable way of life. My grandfather grew up on a farm, and while they tried to minimize it, he said that you basically got used to opening the flour container and sifting out the weevils before you used it.
I find myself suspicious of the most recent comic not for the unlikelihood of Claire's mother inviting Marten over for free pancakes, but the odds of Claire leaving her cell phone lying around on a table at her house when she went to bed the night before. Really, who does that? ...or am I in the minority of people who set their phone on the headboard for a clock/alarm?She lives with her parents, so she probably has an alarm clock in her room from before everyone had a cell.
I assumed the 'Lucky,' was based on the fact that she had never dated anyone (which she talks to Emily about, I think a couple pages later).That wasn't a reply to Marten, she was sort of talking to herself. And it hasn't been established who she thought was lucky.
I believe she asked Marten: "You and Dora used to date?" and Marten replied in the affirmative, and Claire then said (out loud) "Luckyyyy." I concede that my interpretation isn't rock solid, but it seems to me the most obvious. If she was remarking on Dora's luckiness, I think it would need to be phrased differently. Put yourself in this social situation. It's odd to apply her comment to Dora.
Hey, can we do a new poll? I want to see what people REALLY think will happen. Options like "Smooches and everything is good," "Smooches and it doesn't work out, but they stay friends," "No smooches and hella tension," "One million babies, with one of them named Jet Fighter"
Also worthwhile; jars of sweet peppers in oil. Ultimate stir fry ingredient that, since you don't need to add further oil to cook everything else most of the time and it tastes delicious.
Another Jamie tip: Freezers.
I spend an hour after doing the week's shopping putting meats and the like into meal-portion baggies with seasoning and throw them in the freezer. Of a morning, on the way out and assuming I don't forget, it's a simple matter to pull a bag or two out and put a half a cup of rice in a bowl to soak. By the time I get back, the meat/veg is defrosted, the rice is already half-done, and cooking the lot is a matter stir-frying things for five minutes and that includes the cooking time for the rice.
any removal of free time to do unenjoyable or time-consuming chores is a net-loss.
But cooking can also be enjoyable, both as a creative activity, and in the eating of the results. And any materially-based hobby will have cleaning up involved with it, whether it's model painting, woodwork, or gardening (etc).
... but it's a whole 4 miles away. I have to drive all the way to I-35, and go like two exits...Y'all are really making me want to go to Waffle House today. You know that, right?I would love to go to Waffle House right now, but it's all the way on the other side of town and the effort of walking 1.5 miles to my car to drive it there is defeating the will to go there.
In other words, I'm being lazy.
ARRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
... maybe I'll go there tonight and have breakfast for dinner.
(and, yes, I measured the distance on Google Maps. I had actually thought it was farther than that.)
This situation seems like a nightmare scenario for Claire.
A nightmare... on Elm Street!
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A nightmare... on Elm Street!
Since we're on the topic of pancakes, waffles, and other assorted breakfast dishes (any love for French toast?), the absolute best place I've had pancakes was from Cracker Barrel. Huge pancakes and the syrup they give you comes in little glass bottles that's heated and REAL maple syrup. So good, but they're a bit pricey.
Folks, I'm still hungry, and I still don't think there are any real breakfast restaurants in this whole country.
Matt's Big Breakfast in downtown Phoenix will pwn your tastebuds.
That pancake is bigger than the plate. How are you supposed to get bites off of it with the fork? How are you supposed to pour syrup on it without making a godawful mess? How are you supposed to have room for the nearby bacon after that monstrosity?
The world needs to know.
Yup. Many people nailed it. I'm in the camp thinking this may get strung out enough to hit Thanksgiving before this ship truly sinks or sails.
Oh, no. You mentioned Thanksgiving.
Dear GOD, do you KNOW how much drama and major storyline issues have happened around THANKSGIVING?
"The Talk" happened around Thanksgiving. (Just afterwards.)
Welcoming people is a good thing to do for anyone who wants to do it. Besides, some people go months before breaking 100. People like me.
Damn you all, now I want pancakes and of course the store just closed and I don't have any form of milk.
*goes checking the pantry*
Hmm, I've got sour-cream. And creamed coconut. Anyways, I've got the main ingredient (which is obviously maple syrup).
For actual, I think you could use the sour cream (just add water and a bit of maple syrup). It's sour, so it's sorta like using buttermilk? And in any case, sour cream+ chocolate+baking always works, so you can dump chocolate in...Fixed ^^
Also, it must be refreshing for Marten to see someone elses mother embarrassing their child.
Chocolate chip pancakes are definitely a thing.I personally, can't stand chocolate in my pancakes.
So, I've been reading the old comics because I don't have like work or a life or whatevs, and I noticed something: I wonder if Marten is finally trying to follow his own advice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2269)?
QuoteChocolate chip pancakes are definitely a thing.I personally, can't stand chocolate in my pancakes.
I don't think I came home before 11pm on any day over the last few weeks, so cooking then is out of question. We don't have a freezer, so keeping food for more than a few days isn't really possible. I also don't have an oven, and basically only one usable hotplate, which further limits my possibilities.It's 1am and I am cooking right now. One of the upsides of living in a dorm.
QuoteChocolate chip pancakes are definitely a thing.I personally, can't stand chocolate in my pancakes.
Blasphemer!
I only like mine plain (plus maple and butter) or with chocolate (plus some combination of maple, butter, and peanut butter). But then, I think the only other kinds I've made are apple cinnamon and pumpkin spice, neither of which are my favourite flavours anyway. I feel like I've had banana but I don't think I could taste it.
So, I've been reading the old comics because I don't have like work or a life or whatevs, and I noticed something: I wonder if Marten is finally trying to follow his own advice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2269)?
I enjoy using peanut butter instead of regular butter and slathering it all with maple syrup. Mmm, so glad I'm having pancakes for my daughter's birthday tonight.
Marten is just like "She's right. These pancakes are much better."He is isn't he? I imaging him thinking that in a Samuel L. Jackson voice: "Mmm-hmm! This is a tasty pancake!"
But why particularly on Good Friday, and why specifically ban...I don't know, fun?On Good Friday e.g. it's forbidden to dance to music and stuff like that, because it "contrasts the solemn nature of the day".Wait, is this actually enforced? I didn't know Germany was particularly religious.
We aren't - it's more labour protection considerations. Even the 20:00 closing hours on weekdays were intensely debated, it used to be 18:30 when I grew up.
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... but it's a whole 4 miles away. I have to drive all the way to I-35, and go like two exits...Y'all are really making me want to go to Waffle House today. You know that, right?I would love to go to Waffle House right now, but it's all the way on the other side of town and the effort of walking 1.5 miles to my car to drive it there is defeating the will to go there.
In other words, I'm being lazy.
ARRRRGGGGGHHHH.
Do you REALIZE how many PEOPLE there are out there who CANNOT go to a Waffle House because it is not only NOT "within walking distance" or even "on the other side of town" - but a FULL TWO STATES AWAY????
... maybe I'll go there tonight and have breakfast for dinner.
(and, yes, I measured the distance on Google Maps. I had actually thought it was farther than that.)
This confuses me. We drive everywhere here in Little Rock. It's not unheard of to go try a diner three HOURS away. But we're weird like that.
There's going to be a Meeting of the Meddling Mothers if this goes on long enough. I mean, both Veronica and now apparently Clairemom ship this.
Ok Why is claire sleeping with her boobs on. Has it been established that she has been hormones long enough to get substantial breasts? Or does the same super science that gives robots give better hormone treatments?
Hasn't it only been about three weeks of comic time since Marten had a one night stand with D?
As much as I ship Marten/Claire it's rather hard to imagine that she's finished 'not judging him.'
Hasn't it only been about three weeks of comic time since Marten had a one night stand with D?
As much as I ship Marten/Claire it's rather hard to imagine that she's finished 'not judging him.'
I don't see a conflict there. If anything the vehemence of her reaction may have been because what she was really feeling was jealousy, even if she wasn't admitting it or hadn't been aware of her felings for Marten. Maybe that scene was an early clue.
Also on reflection she would have taken on board that Marten wasn't happy about his ONS either.
Quality pancakes are to be had from the griddle of Mr. Benjamin Gleason, president of Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter 50 in Huron, Ohio, as presented annually at the Pancake Breakfast and Fly-in,
Ok Why is claire sleeping with her boobs on. Has it been established that she has been hormones long enough to get substantial breasts? Or does the same super science that gives robots give better hormone treatments?
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Hasn't it only been about three weeks of comic time since Marten had a one night stand with D?
Hasn't it only been about three weeks of comic time since Marten had a one night stand with D?
I've been reading some old strips too, specifically the stretch from the Lake Party to the Wedding and I've noticed that Jeph never really bothers to make elapsed time entirely clear. I mean, at one point, in-universe jumps two weeks (Marten arranging with Hannelore to go to the wedding with her to within a few days of the wedding when Hanners falls sick and Claire steps up). So, we can't really be sure how long ago the one-night stand was in-universe.
It's not that it's cheaper, it's that a significant number of American workers, between the standard 40-hour work week, 5-15 hours of overtime every week, up to an hour or two spent commuting, and errands, are out of the house for 12-14 hours a day. Assuming that you gotta get some sleep sooner or later, spending another hour or two on cooking and cleaning the mess you made while cooking just isn't feasible to do every day.
This. My wife is an emergency room doctor, and I work in a very competitive tech industry. We are both out of the house at 8am and returning around 7pm, starving and exhausted. It is far easier to call during my commute and place a takeout order at one of the 15 restaurants a block from my home so we are eating by 7:15. Afterwards we just throw away the takeout containers and I spend time with my wife as opposed to cleaning and doing dishes. I will cook on weekends when I have the time.
In this case, I suppose you can consider takeout "cheaper" from a time perspective. I work so much that my free time is 100% as valuable to me as my work hours, so any removal of free time to do unenjoyable or time-consuming chores is a net-loss. If you look at things holistically, everything can be expressed in terms of utility, and the utility of my time spent cooking and cleaning is worth far less to me than the possibility of spending my time doing other things minus the utility of the cost of more expensive food.
Incredibly true.
If you mean those microwave frozen meals, those are usually pretty gross, even by my standards.
I don't know if this has been pointed out yet (I can't even find where it was discussed!) but a couple pages back people were wondering about Claire-Dad, and there was talk that possibly Jim could be the father (though I think that was concluded to be a 'no') but I was reading and found this comic that kinda proves that to be false: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2688According to this thread's Headcannon, it should be obvious who is - or who was - Claire-Dad:
I don't know what the protocol is here but on a lot of other forums I frequent, it is permitted to speculate on what the next episode might hold.
I think that Jeph has given as a clue in this case, with the structure of Friday's strip. My guess is that next week is going to be a series of flashbacks to something that defines the current status of Marten and Claire's relationship for three panels before flashing back to the present in the Augustus breakfast nook, someone saying something in response to the story and Mrs A offering her views in the last panel.
Examples could include:At the end of the week, I think we'll have a cliffhanger of some sort.
- Marten recalling Claire's anger at him over the ONS;
- Mrs A recalling one of Claire's gushing descriptions of Marten;
- Claire expressing her fear that she can't match up to Dora or the other girls in looks.
At least Clairemom seems nice.
At least Clairemom seems nice.
She's only been in two strips and I already love her character. These last couple strips have made me a bit homesick.
Breakfast aside, have we discussed the important part of this comic yet? Claire talks about Marten enough that Mom not only knows who he is but wants to meet him. He has made the mom list, and Claire is already on the Martenmom list. If Clairemom and Martenmom meet and compare lists their offspring will never hear the end of it until they send the wedding invitations:P
Clairemom be like "No you come over for pancakes. Then marry my daughter. What you thought I was feeding you for nothing?"
Breakfast aside, have we discussed the important part of this comic yet? Claire talks about Marten enough that Mom not only knows who he is but wants to meet him. He has made the mom list, and Claire is already on the Martenmom list. If Clairemom and Martenmom meet and compare lists their offspring will never hear the end of it until they send the wedding invitations:P
FYP. ;) (I know, I know.)
A bit off-topic - I probably won't be able to put up the WCDT for next week due to work issues (namely, they may not let me go home so I can do it). Anyone who wants to tackle it go for it.
Hello all and hello World!
This is my first post, so go easy on me....
I love the comic, and the story arc so far, but something has been reaaaaallllyy bothering me- What happened to Clair's Mom's glasses from Thursday to Friday? Has anyone else noticed this? Does she have a glasses cloaking device or some sort AR feature that makes them disappear! I know I shouldn't care to much but with all the Squeee, it's to much for my mind to handle!!!!
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Hello all and hello World!
This is my first post, so go easy on me....
I love the comic, and the story arc so far, but something has been reaaaaallllyy bothering me- What happened to Clair's Mom's glasses from Thursday to Friday? Has anyone else noticed this? Does she have a glasses cloaking device or some sort AR feature that makes them disappear! I know I shouldn't care to much but with all the Squeee, it's to much for my mind to handle!!!!
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Welcome! I'm going to go.with: The glasses fell into the pancake batter. Chew slowly and carefully, kids.
It seems to me Marten has felt empty inside for some time not having a meaningful relationship with a significant other.
Oh god, I didn't think of Claires potential anxiety about looks. I know I'm super worried i don't look "girly enough" when compared to others.
And given her anxiety issues in general, that might be an issues.
At least Clairemom seems nice. I wish my mom was that nice :3
Oh god, I didn't think of Claires potential anxiety about looks. I know I'm super worried i don't look "girly enough" when compared to others.
And given her anxiety issues in general, that might be an issues.
At least Clairemom seems nice. I wish my mom was that nice :3
Her mother should have thought of that. She should have warned her. And why did she not wake her up until Marten was in the house?
the frozen meal will be healthierThis is extremely questionable if it's really a ready meal that just has to be stuck in the microwave. Like fastfood, those usually have tons of sugar and fat in them (to make the taste bearable).
Oh god, I didn't think of Claires potential anxiety about looks. I know I'm super worried i don't look "girly enough" when compared to others.
And given her anxiety issues in general, that might be an issues.
At least Clairemom seems nice. I wish my mom was that nice :3
Her mother should have thought of that. She should have warned her. And why did she not wake her up until Marten was in the house?
Because she knows her daughter and wanted to minimise the chance that she'd dress in her bedroom and try to flee through the window when she realises her crush is on the way to join them for breakfast.
Oh god, I didn't think of Claires potential anxiety about looks. I know I'm super worried i don't look "girly enough" when compared to others.
And given her anxiety issues in general, that might be an issues.
At least Clairemom seems nice. I wish my mom was that nice :3
Her mother should have thought of that. She should have warned her. And why did she not wake her up until Marten was in the house?
Because she knows her daughter and wanted to minimise the chance that she'd dress in her bedroom and try to flee through the window when she realises her crush is on the way to join them for breakfast.
It's also possible that she figured that if Claire knew ahead of time, it would only add to the anxiety, whereas if Marten's being there was a fait accompli it might not be as bad (not saying that's a great way to approach it, but it could've been going through her mind).
Oh god, I didn't think of Claires potential anxiety about looks. I know I'm super worried i don't look "girly enough" when compared to others.
And given her anxiety issues in general, that might be an issues.
At least Clairemom seems nice. I wish my mom was that nice :3
Her mother should have thought of that. She should have warned her. And why did she not wake her up until Marten was in the house?
Because she knows her daughter and wanted to minimise the chance that she'd dress in her bedroom and try to flee through the window when she realises her crush is on the way to join them for breakfast.
It's also possible that she figured that if Claire knew ahead of time, it would only add to the anxiety, whereas if Marten's being there was a fait accompli it might not be as bad (not saying that's a great way to approach it, but it could've been going through her mind).
It's also possible that she didn't plan it out that much, as evidenced by how quickly she invited Marten over for breakfast. She may have just decided "nice boy + pancakes + daughter = happy daughter."
It could have been even worse. It could have been "Marten <3" and have an embarrassing ring-tone like "It's Raining Men" by the Weathergirls or "Wild Boys" by Duran Duran.Found a phone once, and several people called before I turned it into the carrier's nearest store; they all hung up when I tried to explain that I'd found it.
FWIW, I think that the ring-tone for Marten is "Ape Man" by The Kinks. Listen to the lyrics of the chorus and you've got to admit that it sounds a bit like Marten.
I don't know if this has been pointed out yet (I can't even find where it was discussed!) but a couple pages back people were wondering about Claire-Dad, and there was talk that possibly Jim could be the father (though I think that was concluded to be a 'no') but I was reading and found this comic that kinda proves that to be false: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2688The speculation was Jimbo as the father; someone mistook that as Jim.
Three if she was the hairdresser.At least Clairemom seems nice.
She's only been in two strips and I already love her character. These last couple strips have made me a bit homesick.
At least Clairemom seems nice.
She's only been in two strips and I already love her character. These last couple strips have made me a bit homesick.
Clairemom be like "No you come over for pancakes. Then marry my daughter. What you thought I was feeding you for nothing?"
Well, from what we've seen of Claire and Clinton, the rest of their family might be just as socially inept.
I'm not sure moms do that little planning.
Marten would've recognized her.Who says he didn't?
Marten would've recognized her.Who says he didn't?
Update: I guess she does say "Nice to meet you". Not completely definitive, but...
And it looks like we were correct. Also of note, we never specified a landline. I think that few of us even assume a landline any more and I am of the RUSH generation :roll:Alternate scenario: Claire left her cell phone out, Clairemom saw an incoming call and, knowing she works with Marten, figured it might've been important, and picked up. Conversation was had, and pancakes ensued.Here is an even simpler solution: Marten called to invite Claire out for breakfast pancakes with the idea of talking to Claire about things over breakfast.Called a ground line? Nah, he'd have Claire's cell
Claire's mother insisted he come over and he, not wanting to make a fuss, goes with the flow.
That is very Marten.
I've got the feeling that Claire's mother is currently in "Let's find a nice young man for my little girl" mode. There is a definite chance that, at some point, she's going to start singing the praises for Claire's home-making skills.Or asking him about his homemaking skills if she knows Claire is domestically challenged OR insists on equitable sharing of household duties. aka a Good Man can cook and work a washing machine.
On the topic of french toast.
I prefer to make my own using thick sliced butterzopf soaked in well beaten egg with just a drop of vanilla.
Then on medium heat in a covered pan so it steams a puffs up a bit as it cooks with a flip and brown to finish the other side.
Then comes the Real Maple syrup or Marmalade or powdered sugar and cinnamon [yek-sis likes it].
On the cooking discussion.
I only cook when I have time and when I do I make largish batches and freeze meal size portions and store them in the freezer chest in the basement.
A freezer chest is a defacto needed accessory if you are time constrained for most meals and budget constrained for outside dining.
Yeah, but that was fromHe was masturbating fireworks? :psyduck:masturbating too much :claireface:fireworks.
A fireworks accident is way cooler than "I wouldn't clean up my room so my mom cut my hand off."...is it, though?
I have smelled a dead body (not a dead human body, but a dead pig might actually smell worse). And yeah, a dead freezer can come close to that after a few days if there was a lot of meat in it. Even worse if there was fish in it.
Yeah, but that was frommasturbating too much :claireface:fireworks.
Edit: Dang, you can't strikethrough an emoji.
He didn't say "oh hey, you cut my hair! How goes the art exhibit?"
He didn't say "oh hey, you cut my hair! How goes the art exhibit?"
How do you know? We completely skipped his arrival at the house.
Regarding French toast: the trick, I've found, is to very lightly toast it first. Not enough that the bread starts to brown, necessarily, but enough that it dries out. Soaks up more of the egg mixture, and gives the end result a fluffier texture.I have used the "toast lightly" trick if the bread is too fresh and moist as well.
Chest freezers... on one hand, wish I had the room. On the other, having helped my dad clean one out after a power outage (a cleanup that was compounded by the fact that he was away for a few days while the power was out), I'm not 100% sure I'd miss it. I've never smelled a dead body, but I think that freezer would've given it a run for its money.
Regarding French toast: the trick, I've found, is to very lightly toast it first. Not enough that the bread starts to brown, necessarily, but enough that it dries out. Soaks up more of the egg mixture, and gives the end result a fluffier texture.I have used the "toast lightly" trick if the bread is too fresh and moist as well.
My sis reminded me about the Kaiser Roll version since a horizontally sliced bun results in two disks that perfectly fit the egg pan resulting in the french toast version of an Egg Muffin or Everyone's favourite coffee shop "Breakfast Sandwich".
[plus two thin toast-able crusts perfect for marmalade]
Oh, as an aside, in a different life I was QC in a small company {...}