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Title: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 03 Oct 2014, 00:56
There has been a lot of Civilization talk in the 'What have you been playing recently?' thread, so I thought I'd make a dedicated topic for one of my favorite game series ever.

Anybody else excited for Beyond Earth? I can't wait for it to come out, only 3 weeks left now. Already told everybody they shouldn't expect to see much of me for a few days after it's out.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 03 Oct 2014, 01:02
It looks really cool. I probably won't be buying it, since it's rather pricey (and my laptop can't run it), but what I've seen is very good.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 03 Oct 2014, 04:07
It looks like civ v with a different skin tho.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 03 Oct 2014, 08:54
I will almost certainly buy it sooner or later, but I might not right at release for the following reasons:
- I'm cheap
- Civ doesn't have the best reputation for being great at first release.  While this seems like a civ 5 port, it might take a while for the game to round out into a classic
- I haven't come close to plumbing the depths of EU4 yet.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 03 Oct 2014, 13:46
Anybody else excited for Beyond Earth?

Ayup. Just preordered.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 05 Oct 2014, 10:47
Currently playing a game as the Mongolians on King Difficulty. It started out really well, found two ruins giving me technologies, but somewhere I must have taken a wrong turn because I'm really behind now. Got beaten to building a world wonder by one round twice. So frustrating.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2014, 11:12
Ouch.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 05 Oct 2014, 14:37
Beyond Earth looks great. Probably not going to get it till the new year though... I honestly didn't pay for my copy of Civ V I wrote a review and some tactics articles for an online gaming magazine and they hooked me up with a free copy.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 05 Oct 2014, 19:52
You desperately need the Brave New World expansion.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 05 Oct 2014, 20:26
I've currently playing as Arabia on Prince difficulty. I'm doing pretty well with a culture/faith kind of build, but I'm stuck on a smallish continent with Russia, which has already wiped out the Japanese and is making eyes at all the city-states. I'm desperately trying to research Astronomy so I can escape and contact the rest of the world.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 06 Oct 2014, 00:23
I just realised that I booked my brother's school holiday week off from work, and it's the week after Beyond Earth is out. :D
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Zebediah on 09 Oct 2014, 12:58
I've just bought Civ V, and I haven't quite figured it out yet. I'm still on my first game so that isn't surprising. But my old skills from Civ III don't seem to transfer very well. (Yes, I skipped right over Civ IV - had too much else going on in my life at the  time it came out.)

Beyond Earth looks like an update of Alpha Centauri, which I always thought was the best entry in the Civ series, even though it technically wasn't in the series.  :-D
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 09 Oct 2014, 14:57
Sadly, the last time I tried civ 5 multiplayer, it was deeply, deeply flawed.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 09 Oct 2014, 15:00
How so?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 09 Oct 2014, 15:04
Seeing as we have quite a few civ players  -- why don't we start a forum game?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 09 Oct 2014, 15:13
How so?

Lots of connectivity issues.  If they've fixed it, that would be great.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 09 Oct 2014, 16:33
You desperately need the Brave New World expansion.

I have all the expansions actually :3 Gotta love dem Steam sales :3
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Oct 2014, 00:34
How so?

Lots of connectivity issues.  If they've fixed it, that would be great.
In my last few online games I didn't have any connectivity issues. Either way, it's easy to safe the game if somebody accidentally disconnects and then restart. It's a hassle, but it works.

I'm definetly down for a forum game. Could be hard to find a time where everybody can play, though.
Does everybody have both expansions? Because the game is way more fun with them.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 10 Oct 2014, 03:53
There's a way to make gameplay asynchronous.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 10 Oct 2014, 03:55
A forum game does sound good...
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 10 Oct 2014, 04:08
There's a way to make gameplay asynchronous.
But I think you still have to wait for everybody to finish their round. Approximately one round per day does not sound like much fun.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 11 Oct 2014, 06:29
So is this still happening? I'm assuming we're going to play a relatively quick game, right?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 12 Oct 2014, 04:06
Well I'm up for it, if we can find a time where everybody can play. I've looked into asynchronous gameplay but frankly, one round at a time with possibly only one round per day is kinda lame. It takes longer to start to game than what you'll be actually playing.

I'd like everybody who's interested in a game to make a quick post here so we'll see how many people are in and maybe figure out a schedule.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 12 Oct 2014, 04:12
Here!
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Oct 2014, 10:13
What version of Civilization would it be? I have CivV, but I don't have any of the expansion packs.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 12 Oct 2014, 12:10
Well the expansions are pretty great
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Oct 2014, 13:38
When would we do this? Fridays are best for me starting Thursday nights
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 12 Oct 2014, 13:42
You must understand, our Friday nights are not your Friday nights. There's an eight hour time difference (minimum!) between us and you.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Oct 2014, 13:44
Saturdays would work best for me.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 12 Oct 2014, 17:24
I'm interested!

I've made a kind of spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RcYYOlxP-858BqqEbzd0I6fG4ZvGeFHNA_HCHr2I7D4/edit?usp=sharing) to help organize it. Add yourself and the times you think you'll be available - if you have a couple hours free in a spot (not necessarily the whole time!), put a Y.

Note that everything's in GMT, too.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 12 Oct 2014, 18:54
Added my info.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Oct 2014, 19:16
Assuming I did the mental conversion to GMT right, I added my info (basically I'm available from 9 PM to midnight CDT on weekdays, all day Saturday, and before noon CDT on Sundays.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 13 Oct 2014, 00:26
Times added. So far it looks very much like it's gonna be on a Saturday or Sunday. Not very surprising but good to know. Also I would very much like to play with both expansion because they really add a lot of great mechanics to the game.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 13 Oct 2014, 01:04
Updated so we can take a closer look at Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Oct 2014, 05:23
I think Masterpiece may have realized I had the file open at the same time as him because he pasted a link to a hentai site before deleting it.  :psyduck: I did not click it.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 13 Oct 2014, 09:09
Blatantly copied Masterpiece's entries because they apply to my schedule too.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Oct 2014, 10:08
Wish I could play along with you guys, but weekends are actually when I'm least available.

But I think I'm starting to figure this game out. Still on my first game, but my Roman Empire has just conquered the Netherlands and I am now spreading my totally whacked-out version of Zoroastrianism to the rest of the world.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 13 Oct 2014, 14:05
I think Masterpiece may have realized I had the file open at the same time as him because he pasted a link to a hentai site before deleting it.  :psyduck: I did not click it.
Friggin copypaste didn't work.

Sorry.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 15 Oct 2014, 02:00
So are we doing this this Saturday? I can probably adjust my sleep cycle, but I need that sleep, I can't game 24 hours on one end.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 15 Oct 2014, 04:28
Probably? Seems like Saturday 10PM is the best time to start. That's like 8AM on Sunday for me.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Oct 2014, 16:03
10pm in what time zone? Zulu people give me Zulu! (GMT for you luddites)
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Oct 2014, 16:11
If it's this weekend I'm probably going to have to back out of it...
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 15 Oct 2014, 16:20
We'll need to get a vent or group skype going too. Trash talking whilst killin!
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Oct 2014, 13:52
Who's playing this Saturday? Correct me if I'm wrong:

Masterpiece
ChaoSera
GarandMarine
Schmee001

Possibly:
Ev4n?
cesium133?


Also, I've been practicing:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 16 Oct 2014, 15:00
I may throw my hat in the ring but havnt quite decided yet
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Schmee on 16 Oct 2014, 16:24
Actually, this weekend is looking pretty hectic for me as well. I might have to sit it out and do the three assignments I have instead.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 17 Oct 2014, 05:55
I'm getting this as 7pm EDT.  I think I can do this.

Should I send someone my skype or steam ID?  IF I can remember what they are....
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 08:14
I will send all of you my Skype and whoever answers gets my Steam. (inb4 sexual innuendo) we'll arrange it from there.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 11:36
GM and ev4n have replied.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 17 Oct 2014, 12:18
Would be lovely if more people can join us.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 17 Oct 2014, 12:48
sorry still on the fence. :/
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: snarkyone on 17 Oct 2014, 12:57
Ummm... maybe?     Do we have to talk or be on camera?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 13:22
We'd prefer it but nobody will force you to. I will definitely talk.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Oct 2014, 13:25
You don't have to talk with us if you don't want to outside of the text chat window. I mean beer and world conquest is best done via amusing ourselves and others.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 17 Oct 2014, 14:50
I'm in, Masterpiece already has my skype and steam. What time are we doing this again?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 16:40
Last chance to have a say in arranging a time
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 17 Oct 2014, 16:46
did you all agree on a game type (i.e. one city) and all that?  Also I do not have skype installed, it gives my computer heartburns.  Would I still be able to play?  I have never played this with multiplayer, like ever.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: snarkyone on 17 Oct 2014, 16:49
Nor have I, still trying to figure out if I am able to.. what time specifically?   And are we doing 1 game or several?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 16:52
That's what I thought the Skype call would have been for.

Does any of you have an Outlook.com E-mail address? Skype works over the web client there.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 17 Oct 2014, 16:55
gmails.  :-P
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: snarkyone on 17 Oct 2014, 16:55
Added you :)
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 16:58
How?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: snarkyone on 17 Oct 2014, 17:02
Via Skype
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 17 Oct 2014, 17:04
You're not showing
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 17 Oct 2014, 17:07
haHA got skype to work and sent an invite.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Oct 2014, 08:36
I don't get why people are whining about the pre-order stuff for Beyond Earth. There's two major camps, as far as I can see.

"Bawww, it's just a bunch of extra maps. Baawww!" It's also 25% off. If they don't want it, I'm sure they'll be happy to pay 10-15 quid extra after release, no?

"Bawww, people are getting extra stuff on launch. I can buy it now but I'll wait until it's inevitably on sale with the pre-order stuff included." I fail to see how this is any different form buying it now and them waiting a year to play it.

Then there are the people that I actually agree with, the ones that can't buy it now and will either have to wait for a bundle or buy the maps as DLC. There don't seem to be many of these.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 18 Oct 2014, 09:42
Woke up this morning ready to play with you all and...the internet was down.  Had to call the cable company and its finally up!
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 18 Oct 2014, 10:18
Join us then.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 18 Oct 2014, 20:45
There's a Steamworkshop CIV V mod called R.E.D for fighting WW2. Now recruiting players.

The big game today was a lot of fun! We need to switch from skype to something like Ventrillo though... a VOIP that isn't quite such a pain.

Also I need a better mic and head set, I know.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Oct 2014, 23:31
Is ankh's Mumble server still a thing?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 20 Oct 2014, 05:10
Sorry I couldn't join.  I guess Civ 5 multiplayer is just like that?

Pilchard, even at 25% off, that's more than I usually spend on games.  And Civ games have a horrible reputation for being not good at original launch.  I'm more than happy to wait, and I'm sure if I buy it in the end, I'll get it for more than 25% off.

Besides which, I'm far from done with EU4 at the moment, and it's a deeper game.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 20 Oct 2014, 08:11
-I just cannot figure out EU4.  The interface is less intuitive than Victoria 2 (my favorite paradox game).  I tried playing China just to try and learn the ropes but it is just so different from what I'm used to with paradox games.  Same goes with Crusader kings.

-I've watches some beta plays (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoBsWUnGXOQ) of Civ:BE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfXedaaMqdo) and it looks really fun.  I do not get the preorder 25% off of steam (that I can see) but I do plan to get it.  Thinking of waiting until after my birthday just in case I get it for Christmas or my B-day.  The tech tree being a web, turns not being 100s of years, alien hive mind intelligence instead of roving bands of barbarians, The constant "quests" and random decisions for your Civ, and the alien world itself just makes it seem just so amazing.  As one reviewer said "its not a Civ 5 expansion but seems more like a sequel."

-Yeah sorry couldn't play with you all Saturday.  Internet was down like I mentioned earlier.  Then when I went to go get groceries I got a text from my land lord that he wanted to show off the condo the next day.  So I spent a majority of the day cleaning the condo...only for him to cancel 10 minutes before they were to show up the next day.  I kind of have a wacky schedule, especially with Dr. Girlfriend back from Germany, but let me know if you guys try to do it again.  You all should have my steam name.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 20 Oct 2014, 11:31
-I just cannot figure out EU4.  The interface is less intuitive than Victoria 2 (my favorite paradox game).  I tried playing China just to try and learn the ropes but it is just so different from what I'm used to with paradox games.  Same goes with Crusader kings.

I haven't even seen Victoria 2, but really loved CK2, and am warming to EU4.  CK2, while I don't have as many hours logged as Civ 5, I think is the best strategy game I've ever played.  It's fun, and sometimes quite funny.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 20 Oct 2014, 14:28
Beyond Earth is now available for pre-loading.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 20 Oct 2014, 14:49
I'm at one of those points where the wise decision would be to again wait until Christmas, and the impulse excited decision because it looks rad as hell.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 21 Oct 2014, 13:59
always gives me goosebumps...

Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 22 Oct 2014, 09:39
So who won the weekend game?  Nobody ever told me...
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: snarkyone on 22 Oct 2014, 09:41
Didn't finish.   But Chaosera had the lead.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Oct 2014, 01:07
Hehehehehehehehehehehe. Hehehehehehehehehee! Don't expect me to be around for a while.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 24 Oct 2014, 03:33
Yeah, me neither. Just this much: Beyond Earth is absolutely awesome.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 24 Oct 2014, 05:13
I watched TB's WTF Is...Beyond Earth.  It pretty much cemented my decision not to buy it (at least, anytime soon)
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 24 Oct 2014, 08:44
Care to elaborate on that?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ev4n on 24 Oct 2014, 11:01
TB's review basically felt that if the sci-fi theme appealed sufficiently to you it was probably worth a purchase.  If not, the game mechanically wasn't different ENOUGH from civ 5 to warrant a purchase at this point.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 24 Oct 2014, 11:33
honestly the sci-fi element is the reason I want the game.

just watched TB's review.  He seems just jilted that its not Alpha Centari.  I do agree that the faceless identities of the different factions is a downer.  The game looks fun but it may be one of those cases (like civ 5) where after some x-pacs it may flesh out the game better.  Honestly I still think I'll get it.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Oct 2014, 14:05
Sea dragons are just the worst.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 24 Oct 2014, 14:11
just watching lets play but I thought they were in a live and let live kind of alien

I would say it would be cool if there were different planet types like desert planet or ice planet etc with different alien types and bonuses/drawbacks.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 12 Dec 2014, 02:40
So, are we ever going to finish our Civ V game?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: ChaoSera on 16 Jan 2015, 02:08
Ok, apparently we will not finish it. Then how about a new round?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Masterpiece on 16 Jan 2015, 18:37
Sounds good!
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Jan 2015, 23:14
I'm in, I have a much better computer for such things now.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 24 Jan 2015, 15:02
I have a game with a friend that has been going for about two months now - I have three victories in sight (culture, science and diplomatic), when AI Ramesses (who has been bumbling along being constantly attacked by everyone else in all of the rest of the game) adds three parts to his rocket and is too far away to invade easily. -_-
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: LeeC on 04 Mar 2015, 17:50
So beyond earth is getting a unique sequel.  Surprised there isnt a DLC for beyond earth yet.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: valkygrrl on 05 Mar 2015, 06:27
FYI steam has Civ III IV and V (with expansions) on sale at the moment.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: de_la_Nae on 06 Mar 2015, 02:57
It turns out I have Civ 3 and 4.

We're not going to talk about how many Steam keys I've picked up over the years and sort of forgot about.

I'll have to figure out if I can run them (my graphics card is going down).

Still... potential OPTIONS
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: valkygrrl on 06 Mar 2015, 05:33
Is it more than 9 keys?

I made my account in December and now it's like OMG nine why do I need this many games?
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: de_la_Nae on 06 Mar 2015, 06:44
It's enough that Steam told me to wait a bit before I redeemed any more.

It's enough that I'll have to do a give-away once I'm done.

What can I say? Humble Bundles are motherfuckers
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: valkygrrl on 06 Mar 2015, 09:13

What can I say? Humble Bundles are motherfuckers

True that. But with limited mobility while my foot heals, those visual novels from a couple weeks ago are AWESOME.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 May 2016, 13:48
So. What are you all making of the announcement of Civilization VI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvBf6WBatk0
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Akima on 11 May 2016, 18:59
Heh... "No limits to civilisation", but we'll still pixellate out women's breasts in video-game trailers. :roll:
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: hedgie on 11 May 2016, 19:36
You guys got the convicts, we were stuck with the puritans.
Title: Re: (Mostly) Civilized Civilizations
Post by: Pilchard123 on 12 May 2016, 13:46
Heh... "No limits to civilisation", but we'll still pixellate out women's breasts in video-game trailers. :roll:

But think of the children!