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Title: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Detachable Felix on 26 Oct 2014, 13:06
Starting your week with some Holy Grail goodness, at least until someone comes up with a better poll
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 26 Oct 2014, 13:20
It was a fair cop...

I'm thinking we're going to have the climactic meeting between Faye and Angus this week. However, Jeph has surprised us before and he might decide that they've both said all they want to say. Alternative arc? There could be many but I'm wondering if there might be a series of one-off strips leading up to Turkey Massacre Day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 13:35
The wailing and gnashing of teeth begins.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 13:36
Spathe ham?

Alternative arc? There could be many but I'm wondering if there might be a series of one-off strips leading up to Turkey Massacre Day.

But that's a month away.  Four weeks of one-offs seems excessive.

The way Faye talked about it with Marten, it seems she's pretty certain the relationship is over.  A meeting between her and Angus would still be nice, at least for closure.  Then maybe she decides she needs to make a change in her own life?  I can see her moping about for a bit, trying not to get in Marten's way while he's trying to start his relationship with Claire, and trying to ignore the bottle (or bottles) of Emergency Booze hiding in the apartment...until finally she makes a decision, grabs a bottle, dumps it in the sink, and goes down to Coffee of Doom to start a new welding project. 

Probably won't be that neat, but one can hope.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Oct 2014, 13:50
Jeph begins the Claire deprivation experiment, in which he finds out exactly how long the fanbase will go without seeing Claire and Marten together before they start to kvetch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 14:09
Jeph begins the Claire deprivation experiment, in which he finds out exactly how long the fanbase will go without seeing Claire and Marten together before they start to kvetch.
The clock is already running on that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 14:17
Jeph begins the Claire deprivation experiment, in which he finds out exactly how long the fanbase will go without seeing Claire and Marten together before they start to kvetch.
The clock is already running on that.

I still have my fingers crossed for an eventual return to the Horrible Revelation and Victorian costume antics.  Ohpleaseohplease.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Oct 2014, 14:20
Jeph begins the Claire deprivation experiment, in which he finds out exactly how long the fanbase will go without seeing Claire and Marten together before they start to kvetch.
The clock is already running on that.

I still have my fingers crossed for an eventual return to the Horrible Revelation and Victorian costume antics.  Ohpleaseohplease.

Seconded.  Also, on a more serious note, I wonder if Claire is going to be more willing to get some drunk bubbles on in public now?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 26 Oct 2014, 14:23
I think that Dora/Sven is next going to be resolved, Marten/ :claireface: and Faye/Angus have nothing really needed to be added to them at this point (a final meeting of the latter or Tai's head exploding when the former walks into the library would be entertaining though). My best guess is that Monday's comic will be Dora telling her parents that she's cutting Sven out of her life.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: downtowneddie on 26 Oct 2014, 14:33
I think that Dora/Sven is next going to be resolved ... My best guess is that Monday's comic will be Dora telling her parents that she's cutting Sven out of her life.

I tend to agree with that prediction. It seems like each week for the past few weeks has been working on one plot. Two weeks ago, it was the beginning of Marten and Claire's relationship. Last week, it was the (most probable) end of Angus and Faye's relationship. Also, in last week's WCDT, I posted the current ongoing plot lines in the Q.C. universe at the moment, which I'll share again here...

- Claire and Marten are in the beginning of their relationship
- Sven's unrequited pining of Faye
- Dora wanting to cut Sven out of her life as much as possible
- Angus moving to NYC; possible end of Angus and Faye’s relationship
- Veronica possibly moving to Northampton to be with Jim
- The Emily question (i.e., what did Emily mean when she kissed Marten in #2736 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2736))
- Pintsize and Winslow Kickstarter shenanigans

We should know something in the next 6-8 hours...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 Oct 2014, 15:15
Commence F5 abuse!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Oct 2014, 15:18
Bandwidth crystals are shot cap'n!  She canna take anymore!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 26 Oct 2014, 15:18
There's more to learn about Marigold and Dale
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 15:25
- The Emily question (i.e., what did Emily mean when she kissed Marten in #2736 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2736))

Sometimes minor character's do X because the author needs X to happen. This would be a fine opportunity for character development though.

What if Emily wasn't just being weird? Or what if she was but she got a thrill, that turned into a thing, that became a crush?

Then her idol shows up dating the object of her fantasy?

So many opportunities to make something other than a joke out of the character.

I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen, but it would be kinda cool if it did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 26 Oct 2014, 15:31
For Daligold I'll ask what May thinks about the future

"Don't worry, eventually they'll get sick of each other and break up....orrrrr they'll live happily ever after, have a million babies and I'll get to name one of 'em Fighter Jet. Whichever you think is more realistic."

Yep, pretty much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Oct 2014, 15:33
So many opportunities to make something other than a joke out of the character.

Agreed, though at some point you run into a critical mass of the number of threads you can maintain.

I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen, but it would be kinda cool if it did.

I think it would be cool in the sense it would cause some character development for a character I like; on the other hand, what I know of Emily to this point indicates to me it would be very painful character development of a person who already doesn't connect in quite the same way as the rest.  I feel like any development of Emily will be handled with kid gloves.

But I've been more wrong than Bush the lesser on WMD in the past, so who knows?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 26 Oct 2014, 15:54
But they're all individuals
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 Oct 2014, 15:55
*raises hand* I'm not...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Oct 2014, 15:57
More of a vague collection of sensory inputs, here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 26 Oct 2014, 15:59
- The Emily question (i.e., what did Emily mean when she kissed Marten in #2736 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2736))

Sometimes minor character's do X because the author needs X to happen. This would be a fine opportunity for character development though.

What if Emily wasn't just being weird? Or what if she was but she got a thrill, that turned into a thing, that became a crush?

Then her idol shows up dating the object of her fantasy?

So many opportunities to make something other than a joke out of the character.

I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen, but it would be kinda cool if it did.

So you want Emily to kill everyone?

Warning - While your skype was catching fire 2 new replies have been posted.

I am an individual. 3 out of 5 voices in my head would tell otherwise, but they don't know shit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 16:13
But they're all individuals
I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist commune, myself.


So you want Emily to kill everyone?

While that would be one of the more unusual ways for a comic to go Cerberus, it wasn't what I had in mind, exactly. I rather see Emily as a less violent type, seeing how calmly she took being attacked by a snake. On the other hand, her immediate reaction to Pintsize might suggest otherwise.

Rather, I'd like to see Emily have to face up to the fact that she treats the world in a fairly childish manner, maybe learn a bit about why she does that, and learn what it is about Claire that she fins so inspiring. Note, that I don't want her punished for being childish, or for her to stop. Just to learn not to be oblivious to the fact that she is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 26 Oct 2014, 16:20
I'm not sure about Emily. Even IF she meant more than what was apparent with that kiss, she doesn't give me the impression that she would be "devastated" or anything like that about Claire/Marten. As...quirky as she can be, she seems more like a kid persona to me, and as such, any crush she may have for anybody might be experienced, and just as quickly replaced with other interests. The flanderization of her character also makes it unlikely she'll get a lot of development anyway.

I would LOVE however to see a meeting between Emily and Raven. I miss Raven =(

Aside: I really need a new phone, key board on this one is wrecked and loves putting extra spaces and w's...took me 10 minutes to type all this just fixing typos =(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 26 Oct 2014, 16:34
But they're all individuals
I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist commune, myself.


So you want Emily to kill everyone?

While that would be one of the more unusual ways for a comic to go Cerberus, it wasn't what I had in mind, exactly. I rather see Emily as a less violent type, seeing how calmly she took being attacked by a snake.

Remember who's Emily Azuma inspired by. I have it easy since she's my alter ego. I can't remember the exact episode now (been forever since I last watched Azumanga Daioh!), but she has a mean serial killer grimace and the capability to back it up. Also, there's a super funny montage of her trying to wake up Yukari with a lightsaber (original is with a butcher knife)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 26 Oct 2014, 16:59
In lieu of any predictions of five strips of Steve eating cereal, or five Yelling Bird strips, I'll say five strips of Steve eating Yelling Bird.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 26 Oct 2014, 17:01
In lieu of any predictions of five strips of Steve eating cereal, or five Yelling Bird strips, I'll say five strips of Steve eating Yelling Bird.
Turkey day isn't until next month.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 17:22
Remember who's Emily Azuma inspired by. I have it easy since she's my alter ego. I can't remember the exact episode now (been forever since I last watched Azumanga Daioh!), but she has a mean serial killer grimace and the capability to back it up. Also, there's a super funny montage of her trying to wake up Yukari with a lightsaber (original is with a butcher knife)

I am unfamiliar with that particular media. It'd be kinda left-field for Emily to start behaving that way, regardless of her point of inspiration I'm sure it could be arranged, but I would hope not. Between Faye's basic temper, Hanners's occasional inappropriate thoughts and behavior, Momo's self-defense system, and Dora's weapons cache, I think hyperviolence is covered.

I'm not sure about Emily. Even IF she meant more than what was apparent with that kiss, she doesn't give me the impression that she would be "devastated" or anything like that about Claire/Marten. As...quirky as she can be, she seems more like a kid persona to me, and as such, any crush she may have for anybody might be experienced, and just as quickly replaced with other interests. The flanderization of her character also makes it unlikely she'll get a lot of development anyway.

I would LOVE however to see a meeting between Emily and Raven. I miss Raven =(

Aside: I really need a new phone, key board on this one is wrecked and loves putting extra spaces and w's...took me 10 minutes to type all this just fixing typos =(

I neither want, nor expect Emily to be devastated, though it would be in character for her to react as if she were (see "I'm giving peas a chance"). I expect nothing, but I would want to see Emily do something that was both emotionally compelling and internally complex enough to inspire the question, "What is going on here?"

Plot elements, and the character's reactions to them, are not just tools. They are implied promises. That's why the worst thing a story can do is leave too many important threads hanging. (Not saying the Emily kiss was an important thread, this is just a backgrounder.) The tricky part is that the promises are rather specific, and the author has to be really clever, or generate a lot of good will to break one.

A good example is Super Dimension Fortress Macross. It starts with an alien invasion of Earth. The promise implied is that humanity will win and defeat the invaders. And that's what happens.

But the thing about promises, in this context, is that audience will get bored if you don't break the promise. So you have to break it. Except, if you do you upset the audience. What do you do?

Back to Macross: Humanity does win, but only after the aliens kill 98% of the Human population. Oh, and we have to share the devastated Earth with the survivors. So it's a win, for certain values of "win." But you might argue it's not much of a victory. Promise kept/broken.

Take Questionable Content. A story about a boy and girl that starts when girl meets boy. That story has a standard promised ending: Girl and boy end up together. Did Jeph keep the promise?

Yes. Boy and girl are best friends, and have learned a lot from each other both directly and indirectly. They live together, and they don't really want to change that.

Did Jeph break the promise?

Yes. Most people assume the "together" in the promise means romance and bangin'.

Let's say Emily's kiss wasn't just a setup for the launch of QC's newest flagship. (I think it was just a setup, but I want more, so go with it a sec.) What does it promise?

Well, we know that Emily worships Claire. We know that Marten is very uncomfortable with the idea that Emily might be interested in him. We know that Claire is a little confused over being Emily's idol, but she respects it--and Emily (Emily being the second person she's taken into her confidence in front of us). So, the situation promises tension with a big emotional confrontation.

But "big emotional confrontation" could mean anything. The more unexpected the form of that is, the more it has to be justified and--by extension--the more we learn about either Emily or Claire. Or Marten, but he's a pretty well known factor by now.

So that's why I'd like to see something made out of that thread. Even if Emily stays her same one dimensional self, it would mean more dimension for Claire. Unless nothing interesting was done with it, but if that was the direction there'd be no reason to do it at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 26 Oct 2014, 17:57
I'm wondering if Emily's next significant role will be to accidentally out Claire to everyone before she's ready to let them in on that knowledge. Emily is obviously very supportive of Claire, exclaiming that she was "so cool" upon finding out. I could see her blurting something out in her excitement for Marten and Claire and causing some drama/conflict that way, as opposed to creating a love triangle.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 26 Oct 2014, 18:01
HAH!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 26 Oct 2014, 18:04
*squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Oct 2014, 18:09
D'aww.

And, it's not like Tai doesn't already know, via Dora...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 26 Oct 2014, 18:10
Oh Marten, you saboteur, you! 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 26 Oct 2014, 18:11
I'm wondering if Emily's next significant role will be to accidentally out Claire to everyone before she's ready to let them in on that knowledge. Emily is obviously very supportive of Claire, exclaiming that she was "so cool" upon finding out. I could see her blurting something out in her excitement for Marten and Claire and causing some drama/conflict that way, as opposed to creating a love triangle.

I was actually thinking that would be the next point to be addressed, and the gang's reaction/thoughts about it. Who knows. If Emily does let it slip it may also cause a rift between her and Claire for a bit. I mean, the whole group has shown before they are pretty understanding and Jeph has mentioned before how one of QC's main things is inclusion. So I don't think in and of itself Claire being trans is going to be the source of drama, but more along the lines of "betrayal of trust" kind of things, which I could understand her being upset about, even if its done unintentionally.

Quote
D'aww.

And, it's not like Tai doesn't already know, via Dora...

yeah but they don't know that....


edit: quote and clarification
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 26 Oct 2014, 18:15
I can't tell if that's happiness, smugness, or some unholy union between the two but damn is Marten just exuding it in that last panel.  Must be the Claireimones. :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 26 Oct 2014, 18:17
Marten has that look that says, "Fair enough. But we're on THIS side of the door right now."

I'm wondering if Emily's next significant role will be to accidentally out Claire to everyone before she's ready to let them in on that knowledge. Emily is obviously very supportive of Claire, exclaiming that she was "so cool" upon finding out. I could see her blurting something out in her excitement for Marten and Claire and causing some drama/conflict that way, as opposed to creating a love triangle.

Maybe, maybe not. Jeph's already said that he doesn't want to have Claire's trans-ness to be a source of drama (at least not for the sake of it), but only he knows exactly what he means by that, or what that's going to mean for the story. Given that Claire wants this kept quiet for now and that Marten's been respectful of her wishes, if anybody finds out at the library, it won't be him telling them. However, Tai does know about the relationship, and her enthusiasm might well get the better of her. Emily outing Claire, on the other hand, is totally plausible given that her immediate reaction on being told to keep quiet about it was to let slip something else that was supposed to be secret. I don't think she'd do it out of malice, but she could very well do something out of sheer absentmindedness.

I can't tell if that's happiness, smugness, or some unholy union between the two but damn is Marten just exuding it in that last panel.  Must be the Claireimones. :clairedoge:

Happy Marten is happy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 26 Oct 2014, 18:20
Claire blushing and Marten looking happy
and I say to myself, what a wonderful world
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Oct 2014, 18:21
It's a reasonable question, Claire. And the answer is that in a library run by Tai, nobody gives a damn about professional decorum. Just don't get caught making out in the Victorian Porn stacks, and you're in the clear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 18:21
Oh Marten, you saboteur, you!

Marten has that look that says, "Fair enough. But we're on THIS side of the door right now."

It almost looks like she's standing on tiptoe in the fourth panel, so I'm a bit disappointed that she didn't initiate the kiss, then smugly toss her hair (or something) and say "There, now we can go in." (Edit: or Aziraphale's "This side" comment.)

But only a bit disappointed.  This is good too.  :-D

(Also, I bet those doors are totally see-through from the inside.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Carl-E on 26 Oct 2014, 18:23
Just don't get caught making out in the Victorian Porn stacks, and you're in the clear.

But... but... everyone else does...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ysth on 26 Oct 2014, 18:25
Squee
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 26 Oct 2014, 18:29
D'awwwwww. :lol: :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sluthy on 26 Oct 2014, 18:29
Next strip:

Claire: "Alright, from now on, no couple talk, we're libraria-"
Emily: "Hey guys! Claire, why are you blushing so much?"
Claire: "Uh, no reason *glare at Marten*"
"...okay, NOW we're professiona-"
*walks into main foyer, Tai's got a banner and streamers up, blowing streamers*
Claire: "GODDAMMIT"

Just a thought, have we seen Emily at all since the kiss on the cheek, other than the "hopefully a dream sequence" basket of mice bit? That might be covered this week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TheDan on 26 Oct 2014, 18:30
Okay, Confident Marten is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters. 2800 strips of character development will do that I suppose.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 18:33
It almost looks like she's standing on tiptoe in the fourth panel, so I'm a bit disappointed that she didn't initiate the kiss, then smugly toss her hair (or something) and say "There, now we can go in." (Edit: or Aziraphale's "This side" comment.)

Also, Claire initiating the kiss would have satisfied the little voice in my head that agrees with this Twitter comment: (https://twitter.com/sineira/status/526542284402081793)

Quote from: sineira
@jephjacques I want to love this but it didn't feel like a very respectful response to her request. :-/ Sry, probably shdn't comment.

It did seem a bit disrespectful, but it was also cute, but...so conflicted!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Oct 2014, 18:35
Just don't get caught making out in the Victorian Porn stacks, and you're in the clear.

But... but... everyone else does...

Note that I specified "don't get caught."  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 26 Oct 2014, 18:39
But they're all individuals
I'm more of an anarcho-syndicalist commune, myself.


So you want Emily to kill everyone?

While that would be one of the more unusual ways for a comic to go Cerberus, it wasn't what I had in mind, exactly. I rather see Emily as a less violent type, seeing how calmly she took being attacked by a snake. On the other hand, her immediate reaction to Pintsize might suggest otherwise.

Rather, I'd like to see Emily have to face up to the fact that she treats the world in a fairly childish manner, maybe learn a bit about why she does that, and learn what it is about Claire that she fins so inspiring. Note, that I don't want her punished for being childish, or for her to stop. Just to learn not to be oblivious to the fact that she is.
(http://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/2293.png)
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2293 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2293)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 26 Oct 2014, 18:40

(Also, I bet those doors are totally see-through from the inside.)


I can totally see Tai putting up banners and stuff or similar in the library congratulating them for getting together. Witnessing that would just be a cherry on top to the whole scene.

'cause really? d'aaaaaaaw so cute ^_^
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 26 Oct 2014, 18:40
They have no idea of the squeesplosion that will be Tai.... poor bastards
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 26 Oct 2014, 18:41
Warning - while you were trying to open the reply form someone did half your comment already

Goddammit.

On Marten: This dude. Right there. This dude is just begging for someone to put the "Arbor Day 2003" banner up again.

Although if that was the banner Tai had to put up, this could bring about some serious discussion. Like, did Tai know Pintsize from earlier? Which was the impression they left on each other? Was Pintsize using another name? Is Momo-sama going to punch him again?

Warning - You really are slow you know

SHUT UP FORUM I JUST BOUGHT THIS KEYBOARD JEEZ.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 26 Oct 2014, 18:44
Well, I mean, they hadn't gone through the doors yet...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 26 Oct 2014, 18:44
Warning - while you were trying to open the reply form someone did half your comment already


lol, yeah that will happen a lot. Specially if you are the type to search through the archives for specific comics to reference....by the time you find it your reply was already written by somebody else and you decide to not include the strip in your final reply....or something :P

Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 26 Oct 2014, 18:53
Warning - while you were trying to open the reply form someone did half your comment already

Goddammit.

On Marten: This dude. Right there. This dude is just begging for someone to put the "Arbor Day 2003" banner up again.

Although if that was the banner Tai had to put up, this could bring about some serious discussion. Like, did Tai know Pintsize from earlier? Which was the impression they left on each other? Was Pintsize using another name? Is Momo-sama going to punch him again?


Tai has met Pintsize, if memory serves. On the other hand, it'd make sense for her to have a banner like that, too, given that she hits the trees harder than Sonny Bono.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 19:06
RIKER'S BEARD! Marten is being BAD! (in a good way.)

The point about this being "disrespectful" is valid, but I submit this is couples' behavior.How you find out where the boundaries are is by going with the flow until the flow bounces you off the walls. Then you have to decide if you're comfortable with where those walls are. That goes both ways.

We'll see if Claire's setting a hard line or soft line or something in between, but I figure this is a really cute set up for Tai-squee. Claire's a little more serious about the library than...everyone else.

I was thinking this was good setup for the punchline, "Sorry, can't talk about it. I went through the doors." It sets up a strict adherence to the letter of Claire's request.  But SmugMarten is a much better button.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2293 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2293)

Sight gag is never explained or referred to again. I'm going with, Hatchets and hockey masks have perfectly logical explanations because no one comments on it after the punchline.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 26 Oct 2014, 19:10
Tai has met Pintsize, if memory serves. On the other hand, it'd make sense for her to have a banner like that, too, given that she hits the trees harder than Sonny Bono.

Maybe my wording was poor, as it tends to be. With "earlier" I meant something like Arbor Day 2003, that one hell of a party.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 26 Oct 2014, 19:12
I was actually thinking that would be the next point to be addressed, and the gang's reaction/thoughts about it. Who knows. If Emily does let it slip it may also cause a rift between her and Claire for a bit. I mean, the whole group has shown before they are pretty understanding and Jeph has mentioned before how one of QC's main things is inclusion. So I don't think in and of itself Claire being trans is going to be the source of drama, but more along the lines of "betrayal of trust" kind of things, which I could understand her being upset about, even if its done unintentionally.

Maybe, maybe not. Jeph's already said that he doesn't want to have Claire's trans-ness to be a source of drama (at least not for the sake of it), but only he knows exactly what he means by that, or what that's going to mean for the story. Given that Claire wants this kept quiet for now and that Marten's been respectful of her wishes, if anybody finds out at the library, it won't be him telling them. However, Tai does know about the relationship, and her enthusiasm might well get the better of her. Emily outing Claire, on the other hand, is totally plausible given that her immediate reaction on being told to keep quiet about it was to let slip something else that was supposed to be secret. I don't think she'd do it out of malice, but she could very well do something out of sheer absentmindedness.

I definitely don't think it would be malicious; I agree that it'd more likely be an absent-minded slip-up in her excitement. I also agree that the drama - for lack of a better word - would be more an issue of betraying Claire's trust than the group having some issue with her being trans. If it does happen, I could see it ultimately being a positive experience for Claire (despite any initial mortification and friction with Emily), with everyone showing her support and acceptance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Oct 2014, 19:12
I don't think Claire blushing like an idiot is going to get old for anyone anytime soon.

Next strip:

Claire: "Alright, from now on, no couple talk, we're libraria-"
Emily: "Hey guys! Claire, why are you blushing so much?"
Claire: "Uh, no reason *glare at Marten*"
"...okay, NOW we're professiona-"
*walks into main foyer, Tai's got a banner and streamers up, blowing streamers*
Claire: "GODDAMMIT"

Just a thought, have we seen Emily at all since the kiss on the cheek, other than the "hopefully a dream sequence" basket of mice bit? That might be covered this week.

YES. I want Tai to throw a celebration so much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 Oct 2014, 19:16
hehehehe.. What a nice way to start the week. Also, serious Claire is so gosh darn cute!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 19:22
All Claires are so gosh darn cute these days.

Yes.

ALL.
OF.
THEM.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 26 Oct 2014, 19:29
All Claires are so gosh darn cute these days.

Yes.

ALL.
OF.
THEM.

There are more? Did Marten start a harem... uh a Claire-m
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sluthy on 26 Oct 2014, 19:31
Quote from: sineira
@jephjacques I want to love this but it didn't feel like a very respectful response to her request. :-/ Sry, probably shdn't comment.

It did seem a bit disrespectful, but it was also cute, but...so conflicted!

I just thought he was being cheeky. "Okay, no PDAs once we go through these doors." *smack* *smirk* *races through doors*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: EdmundBlack on 26 Oct 2014, 19:32
I hope that stick used to poke people making out in the stacks is going to make an appearance.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Comic Strip Critic on 26 Oct 2014, 19:33
Quote from: sineira
@jephjacques I want to love this but it didn't feel like a very respectful response to her request. :-/ Sry, probably shdn't comment.

It did seem a bit disrespectful, but it was also cute, but...so conflicted!

I just thought he was being cheeky. "Okay, no PDAs once we go through these doors." *smack* *smirk* *races through doors*

Yeah. I can almost see him with the Trollface on.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 19:42
All Claires are so gosh darn cute these days.

Yes.

ALL.
OF.
THEM.

There are more? Did Marten start a harem... uh a Claire-m  :clairedoge:
FYP

Not that I am aware. I  simply mean all possible Claires. Everywhere. Everyclaire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Oct 2014, 19:44
All Claires are so gosh darn cute these days.

Yes.

ALL.
OF.
THEM.

There are more? Did Marten start a harem... uh a Claire-m  :clairedoge:
FYP

Not that I am aware. I  simply mean all possible Claires. Everywhere. Everyclaire.
I thought that's what you meant. The intended meaning was very claire to me.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 19:47
Hopefully I won't have to Claire-ify further.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 26 Oct 2014, 20:04
Hopefully this doesn't turn bad. Workplace romances can sometimes be messy things if the relationship goes south.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 20:09
The point about this being "disrespectful" is valid, but I submit this is couples' behavior.How you find out where the boundaries are is by going with the flow until the flow bounces you off the walls. Then you have to decide if you're comfortable with where those walls are. That goes both ways.

We'll see if Claire's setting a hard line or soft line or something in between, but I figure this is a really cute set up for Tai-squee. Claire's a little more serious about the library than...everyone else.

Yes, but she does look serious in that last panel.  Blushing, but still serious, and more annoyed than flustered.  She clearly does want their relationship to remain separate from work (even though their work environment is only borderline professional), but maybe I'm letting myself get too worried about it.  Just don't want the ship to sink, is all, but I'm sure this breeze'll blow over in a day or two, just in time for the Taiphoon to strike.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 26 Oct 2014, 20:18
Hopefully I won't have to Claire-ify further.  :claireface:

I think it is pretty Clariten  Clear  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 20:23
Hopefully I won't have to Claire-ify further.  :claireface:

I think it is pretty Clariten  Clear  :clairedoge:

I declaire, these puns are starting to get old.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 20:23
Jeph has been getting more spare and practical with the strips, so this could be the direct road from Squee to splitsville. And he's got a solid track record for planting the seeds of destruction early.

But I have hope that this isn't going to go directly to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. James Cameron's down there.

I think it's too early for the worry hats to come out. We just had a super downer with Faye and Angus. Pacing demands a little squee. As do I. And if I don't get enough, I'm releasing the virus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stephber on 26 Oct 2014, 20:26

(Also, I bet those doors are totally see-through from the inside.)


I can totally see Tai putting up banners and stuff or similar in the library congratulating them for getting together. Witnessing that would just be a cherry on top to the whole scene.

'cause really? d'aaaaaaaw so cute ^_^

You read my mind. I'm expecting them to walk into confetti, banners, and extreme amounts of squeeeee!

Now if Jeph has Tai popping out of a congratulations pancake cake, I'll be perfect!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Ustrello on 26 Oct 2014, 20:31
Jeph has been getting more spare and practical with the strips, so this could be the direct road from Squee to splitsville. And he's got a solid track record for planting the seeds of destruction early.

But I have hope that this isn't going to go directly to the bottom of the Marianas Trench. James Cameron's down there.

I think it's too early for the worry hats to come out. We just had a super downer with Faye and Angus. Pacing demands a little squee. As do I. And if I don't get enough, I'm releasing the virus.

You mean randy newman
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 26 Oct 2014, 20:32
Jeph has been getting more spare and practical with the strips, so this could be the direct road from Squee to splitsville. And he's got a solid track record for planting the seeds of destruction early.

I really hope the "seeds of destruction" aren't planted by Marten disrespecting Claire's boundaries, especially after he promised in 2808 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2808) that they would talk to each other about whatever came up--which, I imagine, would include discussions about their relationship at work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 26 Oct 2014, 20:33
Marten's usually very good about boundaries. I doubt we have anything to worry about here... with the fervent hope that this tendency does not change.

@ Ustrello: Be glad it isn't Randy the Bandicoot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 26 Oct 2014, 20:42
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 20:49
You mean randy newman

Am I releasing Randy Newman or is he the one at the bottom of the trench. I'm not Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Ustrello on 26 Oct 2014, 20:52
You mean randy newman

Am I releasing Randy Newman or is he the one at the bottom of the trench. I'm not Claire.

He's there already

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121004234006/southpark/images/f/f4/Randy_Newman.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Oct 2014, 21:04
A character who believes in professionalism? What is this strip coming to?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 26 Oct 2014, 21:05
He's there already

Ah! That's okay then. It's Cameron you gotta watch out for.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 26 Oct 2014, 21:06
A character who believes in professionalism? What is this strip coming to?

Claire's not the only one.

I'm sure that Veronica is a very strict professional!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Oct 2014, 21:11
Discussing a client's kinks with her son was unprofessional.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 26 Oct 2014, 21:14
A character who believes in professionalism? What is this strip coming to?

Claire's not the only one.

I'm sure that Veronica is a very strict professional!

Yeah, Ms. Reed is a real whip cracker in her professional life.   :clairedoge:

Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 Oct 2014, 21:17
Tai has met Pintsize (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1602).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 26 Oct 2014, 21:32

I like the David Attenborough version of that



And dawwwwwwwwww
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: theMarc on 26 Oct 2014, 22:38
See, I was just thinking to myself, "There haven't been nearly enough Claire/Marten kissing and makeouts recently."  It's like Jeph is psychic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 26 Oct 2014, 22:38
Hopefully I won't have to Claire-ify further.  :claireface:
I think it is pretty Clariten  Clear  :clairedoge:
I declaire, these puns are starting to get old.
Claire-ly you have not been here for long enough.

On comic: Marten, you smooth bastard.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Luneward on 26 Oct 2014, 23:44
When Marten is the assertive one in the relationship... you know this is going to get weird.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 26 Oct 2014, 23:55
Do you know who I blame for that? Tai. She's the one who introduced Marten to the concept of 'mischievously sensual'. That said, yeah, he enjoyed doing that. It's a good sign that he's got a need for contact.

Yeah, Marten enjoyed knocking Claire's 'professional decorum' sideways. However, it was just a gentle kiss on the lips. She's going to have to build up resistance or she's going to be spending a lot of her time blushing bright red!

So, I'm thinking that this week will be the consequences in the library. After all, Tai doesn't do 'professional boundaries' (although I expect her, with her manager's hat on, to forbid make-outs in the stacks). Emily, of course, doesn't even know what 'professional boundaries' are. I expect her to badger Claire with questions but they will be motivated by curiosity rather than jealousy. I wonder if Momo will be curious too. After all, we know from her Sven fantasies that she finds human males sexually attractive but I can't see Marigold having been willing to answer her questions.

I just think Claire should get used to that blush. She's going to be dealing with lots of personal questions that trigger good memories or... er... interesting fantasies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 00:11
I had to go back and check to make sure that those are her normal glasses.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 00:14
I figure it is up to Claire to decide whether what Marten did was okay or not.

I mean, it's all fine and good to be playful, but he didn't actually respond to what she said. We know that Marten isn't the type of guy to ignore it. Or at least he wasn't. But this is all new to Claire. She's only known him a couple of months.

Like I said, I figure this is just a setup for tomorrow's shenanigans. So I don't expect it to be more than a passing gag. But I have been wrong before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 00:21
Tai has met Pintsize (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1602).

Although this does means last's weeks singing penis even if sentient is not the first
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 00:26
Like I said, I figure this is just a setup for tomorrow's shenanigans. So I don't expect it to be more than a passing gag. But I have been wrong before.

My guess is that Marten will be the only one to respect professionalism. The rest will act like a bunch of gossip-drunk teenagers!

[Edit]
It's worth noting that a quick kiss can mean "Yes, I agree". The problem is, of course, that Claire isn't as familiar with the silent language of romance as Marten is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 27 Oct 2014, 00:47
[Edit]
It's worth noting that a quick kiss can mean "Yes, I agree". The problem is, of course, that Claire isn't as familiar with the silent language of romance as Marten is.

Does Marten look like he didn't want to mess with Claire? I don't think so. He looks like he might have used that particular form of expression to get that particular reaction. Although you might be right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 01:06
@ osaka,

It can be both at the same time too! Silent agreement merged with an enjoyable tease!

FWIW, to me, Claire's expression in the last panel was "Hey! No fair!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 01:31
And Marten looks like he's thinking of more ways that he'd like to mess with her "Professional decorum". Or have his messed with.

And having been to that library before, yes those doors are see through in real life
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 27 Oct 2014, 01:41
Which might mean that the next strip features either a shocked Emily or a Tai preparing for party. Or both.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 01:58
@ osaka,

It can be both at the same time too! Silent agreement merged with an enjoyable tease!

FWIW, to me, Claire's expression in the last panel was "Hey! No fair!"

That expression means a lot of things, unfortunately. They all boil down to "Claire is perturbed" but it can stand for frustrated, flustered, confused, consternated, and angry. It tends to take a bit of work for Claire's eye expression to change, beyond reactive iris resizing. Where a lot of QC character's "cut" their eyes as first sign of displeasure, Claire rarely does. Her eyebrows lower and the inner ends turn up slightly. But as I said to start, that doesn't always mean anger.

It's basically her "I can't even" face.

My best guess is that if she were doing angry, Marty would have the sense not to be doing smugface. I dunno. I can't remember a case of Marten out right teasing Claire. There's a joke or two, but this is a full on tease. Has he ever done that? to anyone?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 27 Oct 2014, 02:00
So you want Emily to kill everyone?

Will you help me hide the bodies?
An intern snapped and killed them all
A book was overdue
And she was feeling blue
Now she's rampaging round the halls!

She used to be quite wacky
And now she's not
I really don't want to die
Will you help me hide the bodies?
There's only six or seven bodies

Quick, she's coming

Emily, why?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kerky on 27 Oct 2014, 02:06
There are more? Did Marten start a harem... uh a Claire-m

Conoiseur of Focus, maybe?  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 02:08

Will you help me hide the bodies?
An intern snapped and killed them all
A book was overdue
And she was feeling blue
Now she's rampaging round the halls!

She used to be quite wacky
And now she's not
I really don't want to die
Will you help me hide the bodies?
There's only six or seven bodies

Quick, she's coming

Emily, why?

Jeph needs to do a cover of this for DeathMole, it can be the one really quiet song on an otherwise loud and angry album
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 Oct 2014, 02:12
There's a joke or two, but this is a full on tease. Has he ever done that? to anyone?
Pretty sure he's teased Faye, and gotten his arm nearly broken in return.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LackOfGrace on 27 Oct 2014, 02:15
Not to derail from the current Marten/Claire speculations.

But is anyone else wondering what became of:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2802
?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 02:16
Pretty sure he's teased Faye, and gotten his arm nearly broken in return.
Ah. Negative reinforcement. That might explain why we haven't seen him do it often. He's only just recently stopped flinching when he thinks of it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 02:17
But is anyone else wondering what became of:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2802 ?

I think that the two ended up sitting together in the apartment's lounge, discussing that most illogical and incomprehensible of subjects - the human condition. I suspect both Momo and May are a bit frustrated at their respective humans' exclusive focus on each other. Bored intelligences start plotting mischief, even if it is mischief solely for themselves!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 27 Oct 2014, 02:19
Not to derail from the current Marten/Claire speculations.

But is anyone else wondering what became of:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2802
?

They haven't reappeared yet because Momo and May are frantically trying to get May's hair to look semi-decent.
And that's only without making the obvious assumption that she said something tasteless to say the least to Angus for the Faye situation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 02:22
Not to derail from the current Marten/Claire speculations.

But is anyone else wondering what became of:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2802
?

They haven't reappeared yet because Momo and May are frantically trying to get May's hair to look semi-decent.
And that's only without making the obvious assumption that she said something tasteless to say the least to Angus for the Faye situation.

I think that they have much in common on the humans front. It might have been a one off gag, but I think it would be interesting to pursue
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LackOfGrace on 27 Oct 2014, 02:25
But is anyone else wondering what became of:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2802 ?

I think that the two ended up sitting together in the apartment's lounge, discussing that most illogical and incomprehensible of subjects - the human condition. I suspect both Momo and May are a bit frustrated at their respective humans' exclusive focus on each other. Bored intelligences start plotting mischief, even if it is mischief solely for themselves!

I would like to see that interaction.
Momo is well integrated into human interaction, even able to push a human in a positive direction.
May however is still adapting to positive human company.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 27 Oct 2014, 02:26
Jeph needs to do a cover of this for DeathMole, it can be the one really quiet song on an otherwise loud and angry album

I make up lyrics to songs far too quickly:

But people smell better than reindeers
Sven, don't you think I'm right?
That's once again true,
for all except you
And that's because you smell of sh-
*slam*

I want to go up North Mountain.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 02:28
My best guess is that if she were doing angry, Marty would have the sense not to be doing smugface. I dunno. I can't remember a case of Marten out right teasing Claire. There's a joke or two, but this is a full on tease. Has he ever done that? to anyone?

I have pointed out before that Marten is more experienced in relationships than Claire. Because of that, he might classify as 'harmless teasing' things that upset or seriously discomfort Claire. As in all relationships, they're now in the 'learning how each other ticks' phase.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 02:33
My best guess is that if she were doing angry, Marty would have the sense not to be doing smugface. I dunno. I can't remember a case of Marten out right teasing Claire. There's a joke or two, but this is a full on tease. Has he ever done that? to anyone?

I have pointed out before that Marten is more experienced in relationships than Claire. Because of that, he might classify as 'harmless teasing' things that upset or seriously discomfort Claire. As in all relationships, they're now in the 'learning how each other ticks' phase.

I know. I do wonder if were in for a short arc of "getting to know you," right now. But mostly, I'm still trying to process what Marten did there.

And thinking I ought to be asleep. Curse this insomnia.

EDIT: Maybe the REAL Marten Reed has been abducted! This Marten is... A Beta unit!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 02:41
I've just really noticed that Claire had her 'serious' face on from the start. This is only a guess but it occurs to me that Marten may find her 'serious' face intolerably attractive, so the kiss was spontaneous. I'm sort of waiting for Faye to complain to Dora that he seems to have regressed to "teenager with first crush".

Of course, that might actually be a good thing because it puts him and Claire on the same rung, emotionally. I strongly suspect that Claire may occasionally push boundaries too. Remember that Marten is technically above her in the management chain in the library; will she feel that their relationship 'softens' that chain of command? Will she start getting defensive about Marten with the others (she's already shown that, when her emotional buttons are pushed, she'll shout at Tai)?

As I've already said though; it's mostly a case of 'first blush of romance'. Marten is just enjoying having a girlfriend again. Claire, of course, is mostly guessing about how to handle it. Marten and Claire are just going to have to find a middle ground that suits them both.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 27 Oct 2014, 02:55
I don't get why so many people are trying to see signs of trouble in the interaction between Marten and Claire. To me, it looks like a perfectly fine start to a romantic relationship - a bit of teasing is just frosting on the cake at this point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 02:57
I predict tomorrow to be "Happy Arbor Day 2006" esque scene ending with Tai telling everyone to get to work. Wednesday sees Tai playing instrumental covers of soppy romance songs, Thursday Marten and Claire getting swamped by work ending with slumping together outside during lunchbreak/after work, and Friday a cliffhanger on the subject of Faye/Angus or something involving Sven



I make up lyrics to songs far too quickly:

But people smell better than reindeers
Sven, don't you think I'm right?
That's once again true,
for all except you
And that's because you smell of sh-
*slam*

I want to go up North Mountain.

You're terrible

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I don't get why so many people are trying to see signs of trouble in the interaction between Marten and Claire. To me, it looks like a perfectly fine start to a romantic relationship - a bit of teasing is just frosting on the cake at this point.
I don't think it's so much looking for problems as trying to read into it as much as we possibly can
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 03:19
I don't get why so many people are trying to see signs of trouble in the interaction between Marten and Claire. To me, it looks like a perfectly fine start to a romantic relationship - a bit of teasing is just frosting on the cake at this point.

Some people have this dynamic. Partner A says don't go forward 3. Partner B immediately goes forward 2.9. Partner A gets "upset" but not really, because that's the game.

The problem is, and this really is a thing, sometimes Partner B is in a relationship with someone who really meant, "don't do that." Doing the opposite, but in such a way that it doesn't strictly break the letter of the request is very upsetting. Rather than receiving the message "I'm teasing you, they get the message, "I don't care about your requests."

So... Questionable Content is a relationship comic. People speculate on stuff there's absolutely no evidence for. Marten just did a thing that could be very flattering to Claire or very undermining. And Claire is sometimes difficult to read. Relationship stuff happens in a relationship comic... It's ambiguous... Of course people are going to wonder if it means trouble.

In both of the major core character relationships, the thing that served to split the pairing was introduced at about the same time as the pairing got together. Dora's fear and insecurity about Marten's feelings and Angus and Faye both living complacently for different reasons (Faye out of complacency, Angus because he was waiting for a means to move to New York).

Basically, this is one of those times that there's plenty of reason to speculate that these might be signs of the trouble. As it happens, I hope not. I don't know if this ship's gonna float long, but that's only because I don't know where Jeph is going with this. But I really want it to. If it's going to end, I'd like to see it end because of ripe old age (in comic terms) thousands of strip from now.

Until we find out which it's gonna be, talking about the details is entertaining. Also, a good way to slip obscure jokes into conversations. And Puns.

Does that Claire things up?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 27 Oct 2014, 03:25
I don't get why so many people are trying to see signs of trouble in the interaction between Marten and Claire.

Me neither.
This is innocent fun, in the context of making at least a token effort to curb their excitement and behave like adults while they're at work.

Almost or actually failing in this could have some comedy potential, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 27 Oct 2014, 03:34
You're terrible

Guilty as charged.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 03:48
I don't get why so many people are trying to see signs of trouble in the interaction between Marten and Claire. To me, it looks like a perfectly fine start to a romantic relationship - a bit of teasing is just frosting on the cake at this point.

I think it's because so many readers have become emotionally invested in the relationship in their own right. So, they're worrying over whether it's stable/working like over-anxious grandmothers. Which is cute, when you think about it.  :-D And also disturbing.  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 Oct 2014, 04:03
There's also the fact that Claire's taking the professionalism thing more seriously than everyone else (and Marten damn well knows how professional "Emma" (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1131), erm, I mean Tai (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2217), is, when it comes to workplace romance), and she's about to find out that Tai is shipping them. And, Marten knows how gossip moves at the speed of, well, gossip.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 27 Oct 2014, 04:28
The amount of blushing Claire is, and is about to be, experiencing can't be good for her heart.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gordzilla on 27 Oct 2014, 04:42
I have read every comic at least 3 times, and have been a long time reader/lurker of the forum and comic. The current events have now caused me to register just so that I may say this:

SQQQQQUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :claireface:

That is all....wait, no.

I have a prediction.

Of course Faye and Angus split, but, and as much as I would hate for this to happen, Faye is down for a bit, then says screw it, gets incredibly drunk, and bangs Sven yet again. She then says "screw it" again the next morning when she realizes what she has done, and bangs him again, if not just dates him. The news then hits Dora, who is trying to cut Sven out of her life, and all hell breaks loose.

Please let my prediction be the farthest thing from right.

That is all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 27 Oct 2014, 05:01
*sigh* BOYS!!!!!!

What would we do without them?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: qc001 on 27 Oct 2014, 05:04
I don't get why so many people are trying to see signs of trouble in the interaction between Marten and Claire.

Me neither.
This is innocent fun, in the context of making at least a token effort to curb their excitement and behave like adults while they're at work.

Almost or actually failing in this could have some comedy potential, too.

Hi all!  Delurking for a moment.  I religiously read the comic and forums, though I almost never post (I think I still have a single-digit post count!) but this comic has inspired me to share my thoughts!

For the first time in a long while, I really didn't care for a strip, for the reasons already mentioned by a handful of people.  Marten's kissed Claire in response to her request to maintain professionalism in the workplace.  While I agree that, from Marten's side, he thought he was being cute and flirty, and the wording of Claire's request ("When we go through those doors, we're two library employees, and nothing more" left things open for his actions outside the doors (if you're a pedant), but the gist of the request was clear (work at work, smooches at home) and he violated that one request right out of the starting gate.  They probably should have hashed this out before they were at the library doors, but nevertheless...

Also, Marten's her sort-of boss, and for Claire (unlike all the other characters who work at the library), this is a gateway to her dream career, so not only does perhaps not want to have the idea of an "office romance" attached with her, professionally, but also she probably doesn't want her performance to suffer because she is distracted by her snuggle buddy.

I also wonder if part of her request is to control information, so she can tell people about their new status on her own terms, rather than letting everybody know all at once.

I would probably have been totally fine with things if this strip were about Tai throwing an Arbor Day party and spilling the beans (as a third party), but as it is, I read it as Marten disrespecting Claire's direct request, which just rankles.  My two cents, for what it's worth (:

Okay, relurking!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 05:16
There's also the fact that Claire's taking the professionalism thing more seriously than everyone else (and Marten damn well knows how professional "Emma" (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1131), erm, I mean Tai (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2217), is, when it comes to workplace romance), and she's about to find out that Tai is shipping them. And, Marten knows how gossip moves at the speed of, well, gossip.

Of course, Claire and Tai are very different personalities and see the Library in very different ways. To Tai, it's a job and one she intends to hold onto if she can. However, to Claire, it's a vocation, a passion and a calling. To her, the idea of misusing library equipment for personal reasons (let alone sex) would be tantamount to blasphemy!

That said, I've got a feeling that, if Claire has a kink, it is something to do with books and libraries (even though she doesn't know it yet). That means that Tai, if she guesses this and offers the right innuendo, may trigger her own Claireblush! :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 27 Oct 2014, 05:27
*sigh* BOYS!!!!!!

What would we do without them?

You'd be bored! Just admit it!  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 27 Oct 2014, 05:45
*sigh* BOYS!!!!!!

What would we do without them?

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2818
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 27 Oct 2014, 05:47
Um... Okay, as someone else has started it up thread, my guess/prediction is:

Tuesday - Claire pursues Marten into the library demanding an apology; he counters that, as they've gone through the door, they can't do 'personal' stuff; they pause and Claire suggests that they are the only ones not doing personal stuff; the last panel is the congratulations party. Even Gus the Librarian is there!
Wednesday (Option 1) - Filler; Pintsize and Winslow are still in pursuit of Dilly; the prototype seems to have vanished! Cut to a suspiciously-happy looking Raven in her apartment.
Wednesday (Option 2) - Gus confronts Claire; she's surprised that he came to the spontaneous party. He remarks that he'd noticed the way Claire was interested in Marten some time ago. He advises her to keep both hands firmly grasped on love. As he walks off, Tai sneaks up behind Claire and notes that she's walked in on Gus with both of his hands firmly grasped on his love.
Thursday - Tai and Claire working together; Marten walks past and Tai notices that Claire's head nearly unscrews itself as she tries to keep Marten's butt in line of sight. Tai remarks that she knows Claire is preoccupied because she's just shelved the autobiography of a Supreme Court Justice in the erotic fiction shelf.
Friday - Claire leaves the library and sees Marten waiting under a tree. She tells him that she's still mad at him for the kiss earlier; she's even madder that they've been so busy that day that, she hasn't been able to get pay-back! Pay-back? The last panel is the two of them kissing under the tree
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Oct 2014, 05:55
I'm mostly good with the 'less is more' approach to dialogue; that said, a whole lot of ambiguity could have been removed with the addition of one speech bubble to panel 3:  "Agreed."

It could be that ambiguity is one of Jeph's goals in having less dialogue, but I hope not.

Edited a LOT later to add:  Ya know, my first post here was telling people not to overthink the comic, and damned if I'm not doing it myself.  Awesome story is awesome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: TieDyeKat on 27 Oct 2014, 06:18
Happy Marten is happy.  I think Claire is, too.  Isn't that all that matters?

I spent most of my life wishing for a partner that would be spontaneously sweet just like that. 

*squee*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 27 Oct 2014, 08:49
I doubt Tai will have an Arbor Day banner anywhere in sight.

Confetti (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1382) OTOH.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 27 Oct 2014, 09:04
[snipped a lot of stuff.]
Does that Claire things up?
Such clairevoyance!  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 27 Oct 2014, 09:10
I doubt Tai will have an Arbor Day banner anywhere in sight.

Confetti OTOH.

But that party was CRAZY, even by Pintsize's standards (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1889)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 27 Oct 2014, 10:29
That is some blush! Even the background turns a reddish color.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 27 Oct 2014, 11:14
removed at a member's request
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 27 Oct 2014, 11:15
I... don't think that's going to go down too well.

*hides behind sofa*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Oct 2014, 11:25
A chocolate e-Claire.

Oh, no, you didn't. :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snarkyone on 27 Oct 2014, 11:52
I wonder what kind of online presence Claire has.

She could use the 'tubes to explore trends in how minorities get treated.

An elegant experiment on her part would be to pretend to be some other kind of minority, creating less risk to her real life while still exposing her to the range of experiences minorities get on line.

For example, she could try an African-American avatar.

A chocolate e-Claire.
:claireface:

You wen't through that whole speech just to pun the name....   didn't you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 27 Oct 2014, 12:53
So you want Emily to kill everyone?
...
She used to be quite wacky
...
    And gave Pintsize forty whacks.
    When she saw what she had done,
    She gave Elmo forty-one.

(click to show/hide)

I spend all day yesterday hauling crap while in hazmat suit and wearing a full face gas mask. Chalk it up to oxygen deprivation. yeah thats it ..... :psyduck: ... I scare me sometimes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 27 Oct 2014, 13:16
Why are some people pouring cold water over one of the most adorable comic to date?  :psyduck:

It had me giggling on the trip to work and smiling throughout the morning, can't wait to see what Tai has in store for them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 27 Oct 2014, 13:20
I am with those who worry what this means.  I know it's just friendly teasing from Marten's point of view but I fear that Claire won't see it that way.

I think that a better way of handling that would be to explain that he knows/has strong suspicions that Tai already knows and would probably mention it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 27 Oct 2014, 13:22
So you want Emily to kill everyone?
...
She used to be quite wacky
...
    And gave Pintsize forty whacks.
    When she saw what she had done,
    She gave Elmo forty-one.

(click to show/hide)

I spend all day yesterday hauling crap while in hazmat suit and wearing a full face gas mask. Chalk it up to oxygen deprivation. yeah thats it ..... :psyduck: ... I scare me sometimes.

Now all I can picture is Lizzie Borden offing random Muppets. :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 13:50
I am with those who worry what this means.  I know it's just friendly teasing from Marten's point of view but I fear that Claire won't see it that way.

If it weren't meant to be just a cute moment I don't think we'd get the lovey dovey pink background or 'blushing like a idiot'.

At most I think the first panel of tonights comic might be along the lines of 'That was sweet, but seriously..' 'ok, I promise'. I don't think this is planting seeds for the Clairepocalypse.

Besides, this is Marten. If next strip she IS upset there's no way in hell he'd keep doing it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 13:59
{X-Files}Trust nothing, Agent Rghfgl.{/X-Files}
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 27 Oct 2014, 15:07
I find Marten's behavior quite understandable. Faced with the prospect of no Claire kisses for several hours, he did the logical thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 15:22
Logic and romance go together like peanut butter and crude oil.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 27 Oct 2014, 15:33
It can be both at the same time too! Silent agreement merged with an enjoyable tease!

FWIW, to me, Claire's expression in the last panel was "Hey! No fair!"

I am with those who worry what this means.  I know it's just friendly teasing from Marten's point of view but I fear that Claire won't see it that way.

I still feel like the "teasing" could have been a little more innocent, for example if Marten had just leaned in and whispered "We're not through the doors yet" and given her a knowing look (nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say no more!), which probably would've been equally blush-inducing, but without the implication that he's disrespecting her boundaries.  Like I said before, I worry too much about these tiny breezes capsizing the ship before it gets too far from shore, when I should be focused on tomorrow's Taiphoon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Netrunner on 27 Oct 2014, 16:22
Not to mention that it's typical Martin troll behavior. I mean, they hadn't gone through the doors, yet. If Claire is really upset about it, she'll need to talk about it with him, but she'll also need to understand that part of a relationship is learning to accept your partner for who they are.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 27 Oct 2014, 16:48
Logic and romance go together like peanut butter and crude oil.

They mix together quite well since peanuts have a high oil content...but no one wants to do a taste test.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 27 Oct 2014, 17:10
I have to say it!
squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SteveCostello on 27 Oct 2014, 17:20
Man... a whole bunch of wet towels in here. It was a sweet little smooch! Haven't you people ever been in love? Sheesh!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 17:23
No need for ad hominem attacks, now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 27 Oct 2014, 17:31
No need for ad hominem attacks, now.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3BCCETH1usI&ei=weNOVKnUEbHasASnl4KgDg&usg=AFQjCNGEo-Vf_831DYIEnlewAfbiFODQbQ&sig2=nnK5BrEzdSnpoB35NXGLDw&bvm=bv.77880786,d.b2U
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 27 Oct 2014, 17:34
Man... a whole bunch of wet towels in here. It was a sweet little smooch! Haven't you people ever been in love? Sheesh!

I remember the days of being in love! I could so see myself acting like Marten when I first dating my ex ten years ago.  Good times, good time. Oh to be young and in love again....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 17:37
Not to mention that it's typical Martin troll behavior. I mean, they hadn't gone through the doors, yet. If Claire is really upset about it, she'll need to talk about it with him, but she'll also need to understand that part of a relationship is learning to accept your partner for who they are.

That goes both ways. Marten has to adjust for Claire as well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 27 Oct 2014, 17:37
Man... a whole bunch of wet towels in here. It was a sweet little smooch! Haven't you people ever been in love? Sheesh!

I remember the days of being in love! I could so see myself acting like Marten when I first dating my ex ten years ago.  Good times, good time. Oh to be young and in love again....
I'd settle for either one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Oct 2014, 17:41
That goes both ways. Marten has to adjust for Claire as well.

True, but at the same time I find myself reminded of the time Claire bolted (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2377) like a little red jackrabbit (?!) when she needed a dress for Marten's dad's wedding.  I wonder what's really driving the whole professionalism bit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 17:49
She's never done this sort of thing before. Marten is her first romantic partner, ever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 27 Oct 2014, 17:50

long link, ftfy (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCEQyCkwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3BCCETH1usI&ei=weNOVKnUEbHasASnl4KgDg&usg=AFQjCNGEo-Vf_831DYIEnlewAfbiFODQbQ&sig2=nnK5BrEzdSnpoB35NXGLDw&bvm=bv.77880786,d.b2U)


I lol'd. Roomate looked funny at me. Good job
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Ustrello on 27 Oct 2014, 17:56
No need for ad hominem attacks, now.

You think that is an ad hominem? Good lord
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 27 Oct 2014, 17:57
One more thought before the new comic goes up.

Quote
Hold it, hold it. What is this? Are you trying to trick me? And- where's the sports? ...Is this a kissing book??
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Oct 2014, 17:59
I don't suppose I could convince you I recognized that quote without Googling it, but in either case I'd love to know the significance.  Marten doesn't strike me as a Dread Pirate Roberts type.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 27 Oct 2014, 18:01
Neither did Wesley
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Oct 2014, 18:02
You seem a decent fellow, I hate to kill you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: PLGRN8R on 27 Oct 2014, 18:02
Okay, so THIS strip here, in panel 2

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137

Am I the ONLY ONE seeing potential relatives of Emily, Gabby, and Claire in that panel?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 27 Oct 2014, 18:04
I don't suppose I could convince you I recognized that quote without Googling it, but in either case I'd love to know the significance.  Marten doesn't strike me as a Dread Pirate Roberts type.

It could be the voice of the reader who want more robots... Or just an attempt to get people to chuckle... Or I wanted to imagine them dressed as Wesley and Buttercup (dressing montage!)... Or--and this is most likely--something that killed a minute in between F5 presses.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 27 Oct 2014, 18:05
Okay, so THIS strip here, in panel 2

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137

Am I the ONLY ONE seeing potential relatives of Emily, Gabby, and Claire in that panel?

Honestly? The black girl on that panel has a face I've only seen Cosette do - that of utter indiference mixed with contempt. Faye would be proud, even if she didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 27 Oct 2014, 18:20
One more thought before the new comic goes up.


is it f5 time already?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 27 Oct 2014, 18:22
is it f5 time already?

Dude, I've already got carpal tunnel from the last ten minutes alone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 18:27
 Not recognizing a princess bride quote is signs I need to rewatch princess bride.

Although in this case it wouldn't help because I'd skip over the fred savage/columbo parts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 27 Oct 2014, 18:31
Not recognizing a princess bride quote is signs I need to rewatch princess bride.

Although in this case it wouldn't help because I'd skip over the fred savage/columbo parts.

Y-You can borrow my DVD... If you want.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 27 Oct 2014, 18:31
Okay, so THIS strip here, in panel 2

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137

Am I the ONLY ONE seeing potential relatives of Emily, Gabby, and Claire in that panel?

I see Emily, Marten, Cosette and Sven doppelgangers.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 27 Oct 2014, 18:32
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137

That big guy in panel 3... I finally found my QC avatar/look-a-like-if-I-still-had-head-hair!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 27 Oct 2014, 18:38

Dude, I've already got carpal tunnel from the last ten minutes alone.

welp, set a perpetual motion bird to press it for me, Homer Simpson style :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 18:39
F5ing isn't bad when there's already something on there to squee at.

Y-You can borrow my DVD... If you want.

O-oh gosh~
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 27 Oct 2014, 18:40
I'll just leave this (http://hijinksensue.com/comic/make-it-so-as-you-wish/) here:

(http://hijinksensue.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2013-04-17-make-it-so-as-you-wish.jpg) (http://hijinksensue.com/comic/make-it-so-as-you-wish/)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Oct 2014, 19:07
Okay, so THIS strip here, in panel 2

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137

Am I the ONLY ONE seeing potential relatives of Emily, Gabby, and Claire in that panel?

I see Emily, Marten, Cosette and Sven doppelgangers.

Redhead Sven is just creepy.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 27 Oct 2014, 19:08
oh cooooomic! where art thou?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 Oct 2014, 19:10
It's up, now just for caches to update...

Edit: Marten, time to call Dora, she needs to find Tai's reset button.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 27 Oct 2014, 19:14
Yeah, Jeph's been reading the forum.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 27 Oct 2014, 19:17
Okay, so THIS strip here, in panel 2

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2137

Am I the ONLY ONE seeing potential relatives of Emily, Gabby, and Claire in that panel?

I see Emily, Marten, Cosette and Sven doppelgangers.

Redhead Sven is just creepy.  :psyduck:

Sven is creepy in many of his guises.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 27 Oct 2014, 19:23
It's up, now just for caches to update...

Edit: Marten, time to call Dora, she needs to find Tai's reset button.

Oh, I'm pretty sure she already knows where it is...

I think Tai's mentally writing more fan fiction... Or recapping the slash fics about them she's already written.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 27 Oct 2014, 19:24
Marten: I know it's not quite kosher, but we can totally keep things professional while at work.

Claire: And I just joined the groundskeeping services part-time, so "work" now includes the entire college.

Marten: Dammit!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 19:44
Tomorrow mirrors this strip with Claire talking to Emily, but instead of a dumb grin it's 4 panels of sadness.

Or maybe thurdsay, because if the last few weeks are a indication wed is robot hijinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 27 Oct 2014, 19:53
I know why tai could act like this but....she already knew of it so why the first impression squee? unless it still going from the day before lol
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: PLGRN8R on 27 Oct 2014, 19:55
Tai: The Forum's Voice
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 27 Oct 2014, 19:57
Tomorrow mirrors this strip with Claire talking to Emily, but instead of a dumb grin it's 4 panels of sadness.

Or, as someone else suggested here a week or two ago (and please don't ask me to dig through several dozen comment pages), Claire will walk up to Emily and say "One," (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2571) then walk away, leaving Emily looking just as happy as Tai.  Eventual sadness optional.  I still think Emily smooching Marten was completely innocent and without romance, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 27 Oct 2014, 20:13
I still think Emily smooching Marten was completely innocent and without romance, but I could be wrong.
That's the vibe I got, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 27 Oct 2014, 20:36
I think we can safely guess which of Tai's slashfics were her favorite.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rincewind on 27 Oct 2014, 20:50
I thought Tai was going to squeee-splode there for a minute. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 27 Oct 2014, 21:00
I thought Tai was going to squeee-splode there for a minute.

nah, that's tomorrow or Wednesday, when after saying she's ok with them two, Marten steals another kiss and Tai's head explodes into confetti from the sheer amount of squee
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 27 Oct 2014, 21:01
I find your lack of squeee disturbing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 21:04
I think we can safely guess which of Tai's slashfics were her favorite.

....the four way
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 27 Oct 2014, 21:07
I thought Tai was going to squeee-splode there for a minute.

nah, that's tomorrow or Wednesday, when after saying she's ok with them two, Marten steals another kiss and Tai's head explodes into confetti from the sheer amount of squee

As long as he steals it outside the library. The one from yesterday was in-bounds, but if he kisses her at the library, he's going against Claire's wishes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 27 Oct 2014, 21:16
I think we can safely guess which of Tai's slashfics were her favorite.

....the four way

you forgot Momo
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 21:17
Then who's the impartial referee?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 27 Oct 2014, 21:19
I thought Tai was going to squeee-splode there for a minute.

nah, that's tomorrow or Wednesday, when after saying she's ok with them two, Marten steals another kiss and Tai's head explodes into confetti from the sheer amount of squee

As long as he steals it outside the library. The one from yesterday was in-bounds, but if he kisses her at the library, he's going against Claire's wishes.
Lunch breaks exist for a reason

Then who's the impartial referee?
You need a ref? Try Jim, he looks like a referee
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 21:19
Then who's the impartial referee?
Gus
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 27 Oct 2014, 21:41
I know why tai could act like this but....she already knew of it so why the first impression squee? unless it still going from the day before lol

Tai knew Marten and Claire were together late at night after Faye went to bed, and that Marten was gone early in the morning.  She also knew Dora and Faye assumed it meant they hooked up (and likely shared their assumption).  This is her first actual confirmation that they were a thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: vforvancouver on 27 Oct 2014, 21:42
♪ Red-headed girls, you make the rockin' world go 'round... ♫
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 27 Oct 2014, 22:26
"I'm sorry, Tai is unavailable right now, please leave a message after the squee and she'll get back to you as soon as possible."  *SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 27 Oct 2014, 22:33
Tai's obviously been afloat on imagined romance all day and night. She surfaced just long enough for Martin to confirm what she wanted to hear, the when back to imagining panel 3 from yesterday.

OR...

She's catching up on imagined romance because she spent all night writing the erotic parts of the slash fic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LilShortstuf on 27 Oct 2014, 23:41
Then who's the impartial referee?

Well you could just borrow this trophy (Beware NSFW link to Oglaf) (Also maybe this forum deserves the second trophy) (http://oglaf.com/SAT/)




As for today's comic, I was honestly surprised by Tai's reaction because she already knows that something happened. Sure she may have thought they just hooked up and is now squeeing at the fact that they are a couple but I kinda wished for some other reaction. Arbor Day 2003 banner-esque thing would have been dope.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 27 Oct 2014, 23:50
 I definitely thought of QC when I first read that oglaf a while back.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 28 Oct 2014, 00:02
Tai has always been an incurable romantic! The trick now will be to separate her fantasies from reality and stop her from acting as if her fantasies were reality. No rush though; I'm not expecting her brain to unlock from "Princess Claire and Prince Charming Marten" fantasy mode for a while.

Isn't it typical Marten to be fretting about breaking an unwritten rule that his manager has already admitted she does not understand and probably wouldn't apply anyway?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: neurocase on 28 Oct 2014, 01:42
Guess the people getting all upset about Marten not respecting Claire's boundaries should have waited a day or so, huh? 8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 28 Oct 2014, 01:52
I thought Tai was going to squeee-splode there for a minute.

She's just building up the pressure...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2014, 03:31
Sometimes I think we get a bit over analytical in here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 28 Oct 2014, 03:33
Sometimes I think we get a bit over analytical in here.

It isn't over-analysis, it's emotional investment, as I've already said. We're all so worried about whether Marten and Claire are going to work out that we're doing the forum post version of pacing restlessly whilst fiddling with worry beads!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 28 Oct 2014, 05:08
Dunno why, though. They are so disgustingly cute together. Augh. There's no hope :( I really don't like Claire, but there's like NO way there's anything brewing at the horizon.

Back to dick jokes/AnthroPCs:
I'm with LackOfGrace here:
Not to derail from the current Marten/Claire speculations.

But is anyone else wondering what became of:
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2802
?

And, I might add,
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2818 ??
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 28 Oct 2014, 05:25
What's wrong with Claire?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 28 Oct 2014, 05:34
What's wrong with Claire?

This is actually relevant to a thought I've had about where this week's strips might now be going. It wouldn't surprise me if, instead of talking to Marten about professional boundaries and the like, Tai talks to Claire.

Think about it: Tai has known Marten for some time - a year or more, IIRC. He's shown himself to be mild-tempered, reliable and generally calm and reasonable. She can be reasonably sure that he'll conduct himself sensibly. On the other hand, Claire has had two meltdowns in the library due to someone hitting an unsuspected trigger of hers (one of them her brother, which says a lot about her inability to warn people of where her triggers might be). Add on top of that, Claire's misstep with Faye at CoD (which was at about the same time, IIRC). All this in the matter of a few months.

I'm not talking down Claire but, if we are sensible, we will acknowledge that she has emotional issues with which she struggles to an extent that in some ways is worse than Hannelore or Faye (although they do not manifest anywhere near as often). If there is one of this new pair that Tai may be reasonably concerned might need to be reminded that she needs to maintain professionalism at all times, it's Claire.

That will probably upset Claire but she does need to be told. Also, I think she might benefit from realising that, desire to work in a library or not, there is a reason why Marten has lasted long enough to get his moderate measure of seniority.

[edit]
In many ways this is why Marten is so perfect for Claire (and why he's such an excellent friend to Hannelore and Faye). He is gentle, patient and is willing to stick with people through their rough spots. This is the sort of guy Claire really needs to help her confront her issues in a constructive way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 28 Oct 2014, 06:31
What's wrong with Claire?

Far too much awesome to pack into that tiny little body?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 28 Oct 2014, 07:10
What's wrong with Claire?

Nothing - her character just rubs me the wrong way. She's condescending, rude and doesn't understand others nor does she try to. No, she's not the only one, yes it's OK for her to appear once in a while, but I could do without the Claire overdose at the moment. I don't know, she's too much like Clinton to like her - but that's just my personal opinion.

BenRG: You make some really good points! I hadn't thought of that at all, and it would fit very well. I don't think Tai's going to talk to her about it before the first problems arise, though - her attitude towards workplace romances is pretty relaxed ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 07:51
She's condescending, rude and doesn't understand others nor does she try to. No, she's not the only one,

Not the only one is a massive understatement. If you think Claire is condescending and rude, how do you deal with Faye? Or Dora? Or Veronica?  Or Penelope? Tai?

Seriously. The only female characters in the strip who couldn't be described as condescending and rude are emotionally crippled, one dimensional recurring jokes, or suffer the curse of being too brown to be regular characters.

The only male characters are either 1 dimensional or Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 28 Oct 2014, 08:00
Not the only one is a massive understatement. If you think Claire is condescending and rude, how do you deal with Faye? Or Dora? Or Veronica?  Or Penelope? Tai?

Seriously. The only female characters in the strip who couldn't be described as condescending and rude are emotionally crippled, one dimensional recurring jokes, or suffer the curse of being too brown to be regular characters.

The only male characters are either 1 dimensional or Marten.

Um, then what is it about the comic that you like enough to read it and make an account to discuss it?

That's actual curiosity, by the way, and not passive aggressive bullshit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 28 Oct 2014, 08:14
Mooski, I'm 150% sure that if all characters were normal the comic wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 28 Oct 2014, 08:24
Mooski, I'm 150% sure that if all characters were normal the comic wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining.

Without a doubt; the criticisms seemed to leave little to be entertained by, though it's possible I read too much into it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 28 Oct 2014, 08:49
Hera on a Harley, it seems as though some of you like everything about the comic except for the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 28 Oct 2014, 09:17
Yeah well... The world would be a great place if there weren't all those darn people in it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 28 Oct 2014, 09:21
Yeah well... The world would be a great place if there weren't all those darn people in it.

You mean... Like France?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 09:32
Um, then what is it about the comic that you like enough to read it and make an account to discuss it?

That's actual curiosity, by the way, and not passive aggressive bullshit.

None of the characters are real. I don't mean they aren't well drawn (hahaha), just fictional. I can take what they do in terms of the author's intent.

Greg House is a horrible human being, but he's fun to watch. None of the characters in QC get anywhere near that level of douchebaggery. Most are still fun to watch.

I don't think any of the characters is actually condescending or rude, within the framework of the universe. Even if I did, I would still enjoy the strip if it were entertaining. Why wouldn't I?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DrBear on 28 Oct 2014, 09:36
In the immortal words of Lucy Van Pelt, "I love mankind - it's people I can't stand!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 28 Oct 2014, 09:39
It wasn't the condescending/rude bit that made me wonder - I like House, too - but the bit about one-dimensionality.    It's all good, though.  I guess I've seen too many instances of people having nothing to say except how much something sucks, and I brought that to the table with me.

My bad; thanks for the answer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: allanjm on 28 Oct 2014, 11:34
"Emma" probably won't be to strict about professionalism.

Did they ever get the copier room lock fixed?

Poll Question: Pumice is a type of rock that will float on water. (At least until it absorbs water.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 11:54
A character doesn't actually need more than one dimension. The constant advice to writers about that is just good practice. Jeph generally gets good enough mileage out of his characters without add dimensions. Possibly because he knows the depths of them, maybe some other reason. People get used to thinking of 1D as a criticism. But it is as important to know when to stay on the surface as it is to know when to go deep.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Oct 2014, 12:29
Claire has subsurface complexities.

She is aware enough of other people to have figured out that Marten was a safe person to trust with a dangerous secret. I was taking that as proof she was a shrewd judge of character until she told Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 28 Oct 2014, 12:45
She hesitated before telling Emily, though. And then she decided that if Emily was going to be her friend, she ought to tell her. Granted it was a risk, but Emily's reaction vindicated that trust - and Emily hasn't spilled the beans either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 12:54
Actually, Claire isn't the 1D character. I meant Emily. Or Penelope (rhymes with antelope),Gabbyabby (who?).  I don't assume Jeph hasn't got oodles of subsurface complexity for all of the above. But we don't see it.

So the characterization tends to be snark, more snark, snark and violence, snark snark snark baked beans and snark, crippling anxiety, or one trick.

All I'm saying is that if one finds Claire's snark distasteful, how does one deal with the rest of the cast?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 28 Oct 2014, 13:04
Yeah well... The world would be a great place if there weren't all those darn people in it.

You mean... Like France?

To which the Frenchmen reply: "merde".

Claire is generally mild-mannered. It's just her brother seems to be a bit of a creep (he managed to get Momo angry, remember?) and Faye... Well, she was on her best porcupine behaviour at the time. Claire is young. She has her issues, sure, but she does not explode at the slightest provocation, either.
(I would add that sometimes, family member are not a good measuring stick for relationships. Let's just say my mother and I manage to push our mutual buttons quite regularly, even though I am a rather calm, even cold-blooded fellow in general, according to all the people I work with and those I lived with.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 13:56
Agreed, except Claire is only young compared to us old people. She's actually about the same age Marten and Faye were when the strip started.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 28 Oct 2014, 15:20
All I'm saying is that if one finds Claire's snark distasteful, how does one deal with the rest of the cast?

At least they're funny? As I said, It's only my personal opinion. There are loads of characters I wouldn't want to be near in real life (Faye! Pintsize! Dora!) but who are actually funny to watch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 15:35
I don't see how Claire's snark is any less funny than anyone else's. Sounds to me like you have taken a matter of personal taste and wrapped it up in the trappings of objective observation. There's a difference between "Claire is condescending" and "I don't think Claire is funny." One is an opinion. The other is not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 28 Oct 2014, 15:47

Um, then what is it about the comic that you like enough to read it and make an account to discuss it?


Crazy to think about isn't it? It's almost like, to me, watching a TV drama, and reading the old comics are like the reruns.
But why do we spend so much of our lives obsessed over this? I've been reading it off and on over the years, then the past two years I got in to it really bad. Still took a year to notice the forum like and actually read the forum, and longer to post. I've read the archives so many times! I love going thru and watching how the art changes over time.
But what draws us back to this over and over again? That true store telling right there. There are people in the stories that we love, hate, want to see more of, want to see less of. It really does feel like you're there with the people of the stories. I'm sure we've all cried, or laughed, or even yelled at our monitors. I know I have.
I have to say I'm really wish I could tell stories like these. I'm like Penny, I want to write stories, but I don't want to do that hard work of writing stories till I get 'good' at it enough to sell any. Or learn to draw and tell me stories via comics. I don't want to put in the time to be able to do the job, I just want to do the job now.

Really trying to Clare-fy it :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 15:58
I have to say I'm really wish I could tell stories like these. I'm like Penny, I want to write stories, but I don't want to do that hard work of writing stories till I get 'good' at it enough to sell any. Or learn to draw and tell me stories via comics. I don't want to put in the time to be able to do the job, I just want to do the job now.

Really trying to Clare-fy it :claireface:

Go back and start reading QC from Comic 1.

Every 5 comics, hit the banner link to take you to the current comic, before going back to the archive.

Why?

Jeph didn't hit this level of art for 700+ strips. Even then, he wasn't satisfied. The art just keeps changing.

Jeph didn't hit this level of storytelling for nearly 400 strips. Even now, he's constantly fiddling with how he tells stories. His latest thing is less word = good.

The lesson, me thinks, is don't wait until you're "good." "Good enough" will do. What's good enough? Make something. show it someone else. Did they understand it? If yes, it's good enough.

Lesson two is, "You'll have time to be good at it when you're dead. Right now, it's time to be doing it."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 28 Oct 2014, 16:10
man that makes me think of when I was in the navy, when working on the boat (I was on a sub and they still call sub's boats) when we would finish working on maintenance or a major repair we say 'that's g.e.' or good enough for government work. The Chief would get so mad at us. It's good enough, not the job was done perfect and we are all going to live another day because this valve isn't going to fail and kill us all while we are below water in a sinkable ship, nope it's g.e.
My problem right now is I can only get my ideas out with 'help' in the form of Jack.  Not the best solution I think, but it's the only way I can write on this board (sorry if I don't make sense some times).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 28 Oct 2014, 16:17
Go back and start reading QC from Comic 1.

Every 5 comics, hit the banner link to take you to the current comic, before going back to the archive.

man on my chromebook I'm going thru the archives AGAIN (like third time this year?), I love the art work at that time of the comic. It's around the time Dora moved in with Marten around when Angus and Faye are just getting together.  I just want to shake his hand and say I love it! I love it all! I'm not going to say everything is perfect and pintsize or who ever doesn't get on my nerves but that's just like in real life too. I know people I'd go have a drink with and hang out with but they still get on my nerves some/a lot of times.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 16:21
Where you get your ideas isn't that relevant, in the big picture. Stephen King used to do everything while either drunk, or high on coke. After he quit, he was pretty scared he wouldn't be able to write at all.

I'm not advocating drinking, but it seems to me that--as long as you aren't hurting yourself or others--if a drink helps you open the doors, have a drink. But you should also practice opening the doors sober. John Cleese would tell you creativity is a skill. You gots to practice skills.

Cleese would also tell you that creativity is work and play. You can't be creative while working, and you can't create while playing. Play is for having ideas. Bouncing the off of things, seeing how they stick together. Play can be serious, but it's not solemn. Cleese calls this "the open mode." That's when creativity happens. But in the open mode, you can't build anything. That's work. So you have to stop playing, and start working. That's "the closed mode." What people think of as creativity--art--is the skill of moving between the open and closed modes. Create ideas in the open mode, implement the ideas in the closed mode, check the implementation in the open mode, make improvements in the closed mode.

If a drink helps you get in the open mode, now. Use it. Unless you're a alcoholic. then don't do that.

Maybe we need a thread on being creative in CHATTER?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Oct 2014, 16:28
Go back and start reading QC from Comic 1.

Every 5 comics, hit the banner link to take you to the current comic, before going back to the archive.

Why?

Jeph didn't hit this level of art for 700+ strips. Even then, he wasn't satisfied. The art just keeps changing.

Jeph didn't hit this level of storytelling for nearly 400 strips. Even now, he's constantly fiddling with how he tells stories. His latest thing is less word = good.

The lesson, me thinks, is don't wait until you're "good." "Good enough" will do. What's good enough? Make something. show it someone else. Did they understand it? If yes, it's good enough.

Lesson two is, "You'll have time to be good at it when you're dead. Right now, it's time to be doing it."

For me, the comic is okay in the early going, but the storytelling doesn't really hit its stride 'til The Talk. I think getting that out of the way opened the comic to go in some different directions, and may also have shown Jeph that he could play against expectations and people would still stick with him. While the art's vastly improved around then, I think it hits a sweet spot (for me) somewhere in the 1500's, but that's just a matter of personal preference. There were times before and after that that I loved, but that kinda mid-period stuff was a happy medium between the early days, when I think Jeph was kinda figuring out how to draw,* and the more recent stuff that's a bit more stylized (though he's getting a lot more mileage out of facial expressions lately, which is also very cool).

*Not a knock against him; this is something he's said before.

Regarding creativity, there's an awesome book called "The Midnight Disease" that explores the link between writing and depression, but it touches on creativity more broadly (and on issues far beyond depression). It's a good read if you're interested in any of those things (or the intersections among them).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 16:43
I think the one thing Jeph had down from the start was patience. If he didn't know the talk was coming from strip 1, he still knew pretty early. He still managed to go ~500 strips before he finally got there. If he meant For Claire and Marten to be a thing from the moment he added her to the cast, he still waited 605 strips to pay out.

I'm not saying any of this to poop in Jeph's cheerios. It takes guts to do what he did, at all. "Here's my art!" That's bold. But it takes even more guts to say, "I'm going to do better tomorrow. And I'm not going to remove the old stuff, or redo it." I like QC as much because I can see that he's always working on it. Jeph doesn't phone it in.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 28 Oct 2014, 18:03
Heh heh.  I just hit my QC bookmark to see if the Wednesday strip is up, and I actually read the title of today's strip:  "Please Try Again Later."  That's funny.

Or Emily-funny.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 28 Oct 2014, 18:50
Is Dora going to have to threaten Faye to get her to call her therapist?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 28 Oct 2014, 18:52
I wonder what Angus is up to, and who he's getting advice from.  Marigold?  Momo?  MAY?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 28 Oct 2014, 18:54
I wonder what Angus is up to, and who he's getting advice from.  Marigold?  Momo?  MAY?

The Vespa Avenger got him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 28 Oct 2014, 18:57
The Vespa Avenger got him.

But she works for the government now.  She's been bureaucratized.

Wait a moment...Steve worked for the government too, for a while.

Do you...do you think they ever teamed up?

Dammit, now I want a spin-off.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 28 Oct 2014, 19:03
The Vespa Avenger got him.

But she works for the government now.  She's been bureaucratized.

Wait a moment...Steve worked for the government too, for a while.

Do you...do you think they ever teamed up?

Dammit, now I want a spin-off.
She went to Russia for a while and became Tortura.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 28 Oct 2014, 19:04
I suppose stress-eating is marginally better than stress-drinking. But still...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 28 Oct 2014, 19:08
stress drinking is a downward spiral that leads to no good, better to stress eat you can always hit the gym in the morning
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 20:02
Stress anything will probably kill you. The patterns always seem to make it that much harder to follow up and do the healthy thing after.

On the upside, death by stress eating is probably slower. It's doubtful Faye will become impaired and wander into traffic under the influence of too many muffins.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalillama on 28 Oct 2014, 20:22
Stress anything will probably kill you. The patterns always seem to make it that much harder to follow up and do the healthy thing after.

On the upside, death by stress eating is probably slower. It's doubtful Faye will become impaired and wander into traffic under the influence of too many muffins.
That and eating a half dozen or so extra muffins a day will probably take longer to do anything to your health than an extra half bottle or so of bourbon a day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 28 Oct 2014, 20:38
I wonder what Marigold's reaction to this whole deal is going to be? She's become more assertive over the time she' been featured, so it'll be interesting to see.
I predict Angus get slapped or hugged, then Dale and Momo will find out and the grape vine will tell everyone
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 20:42
I wonder if we're even going to see Mar-bear's reaction.

I do hope so, but it feels like Jeph's keeping this focused on Faye.

Maybe this thread needs a ten page discussion about Marigold and Angus to... suggest... something.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 28 Oct 2014, 20:45
Interesting start to the week so far.

By the way, Hi from Arizona.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Oct 2014, 20:46
I wonder what Marigold's reaction to this whole deal is going to be? She's become more assertive over the time she' been featured, so it'll be interesting to see.
I predict Angus get slapped or hugged, then Dale and Momo will find out and the grape vine will tell everyone

I can't help but wonder if Marigold might see this as time to have another go at dating Angus. Yes, she's with Dale, but I wonder if she's just socially unaware/selfish enough to try.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 20:52
I doubt it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 28 Oct 2014, 20:57
I think she'd be more upset about it, he's been her friend since before we met her and she held a torch for him for a long time. Jeph could use this as a way to deepen Dale/Marigold, by way of Dale comforting her as a good boyfriend should
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 28 Oct 2014, 21:02

I can't help but wonder if Marigold might see this as time to have another go at dating Angus. Yes, she's with Dale, but I wonder if she's just socially unaware/selfish enough to try.

That would be a moral event horizon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 28 Oct 2014, 21:07
I think that ship caught fire, exploded, sank, exploded again, and had its fragments crapped on by a passing whale.

But I still want to know how she feels about losing her roommate/oldest friend in less than a week.  And we're back again to idle speculation re: who will move in to his old room, especially since Faye isn't going anywhere and Marten isn't in the same need-a-new-roommate boat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Oct 2014, 21:08
The Pugnacious Peach is being honest with herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 28 Oct 2014, 21:09
Interesting start to the week so far.

By the way, Hi from Arizona.

Welcome to Arizona!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Oct 2014, 21:11
I think that ship caught fire, exploded, sank, exploded again, and had its fragments crapped on by a passing whale.

But I still want to know how she feels about losing her roommate/oldest friend in less than a week.  And we're back again to idle speculation re: who will move in to his old room, especially since Faye isn't going anywhere and Marten isn't in the same need-a-new-roommate boat.

I don't think it's particularly likely, mind you. Just a thought I had.

I'm wondering if Angus is "on the bus" for real, or if he's going to flame out spectacularly right after Marigold finds a new roommate. Time will tell...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 21:25
I don't know how I feel about Angus leaving. I mean, I'm going to miss him as much as I miss Sara. But I don't dislike him. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 28 Oct 2014, 21:36
Will Claire celebrate by consuming M&Ms, Nestle bars, fudge, and so on?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 28 Oct 2014, 21:42
DO NOT finish that pun about a chocolate-y Claire!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 28 Oct 2014, 21:43
Muffin Therapy
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 21:47
DO NOT finish that pun about a chocolate-y Claire!

Now iicih doesn't have to.

The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: LilShortstuf on 28 Oct 2014, 21:51
I think that ship caught fire, exploded, sank, exploded again, and had its fragments crapped on by a passing whale.

But I still want to know how she feels about losing her roommate/oldest friend in less than a week.  And we're back again to idle speculation re: who will move in to his old room, especially since Faye isn't going anywhere and Marten isn't in the same need-a-new-roommate boat.

Do we know if Dale has a roommate? Maybe he and Marigold are both so socially unaware that they think it would be OK to move in together at this point. It might be an interesting story arc to have Marigold and Dale decide to move in together and have Dale mention it at CoD. The Gang could then spend a long time trying to convince Dale and Marigold that it's a bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 28 Oct 2014, 21:59
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

*groan*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Oct 2014, 22:04
DO NOT finish that pun about a chocolate-y Claire!
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

This went over my head...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 28 Oct 2014, 22:07
DO NOT finish that pun about a chocolate-y Claire!
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

This went over my head...

"Let then eat cake."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 22:09
DO NOT finish that pun about a chocolate-y Claire!
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

This went over my head...

(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002164373/4414959472_clarinet_answer_8_xlarge.jpeg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 28 Oct 2014, 22:32
And a Claire-inet is a Reed instrument.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Oct 2014, 22:35
DO NOT finish that pun about a chocolate-y Claire!
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

This went over my head...

(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002164373/4414959472_clarinet_answer_8_xlarge.jpeg)

 :facepalm:

Thanks for clearing that up. When you said "Ms. Augustus," I was thinking of Clairemom for a minute... hence wondering where in the heck the pun was.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 22:37
And a Claire-inet is a Reed instrument.

Well played!
:facepalm:

Thanks for clearing that up. When you said "Ms. Augustus," I was thinking of Clairemom for a minute... hence wondering where in the heck the pun was.

Ah. Sorry. I think of her as "Claire's mom" since we really don't know her name.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 28 Oct 2014, 22:43
And a Claire-inet is a Reed instrument.

Well played!
:facepalm:

Thanks for clearing that up. When you said "Ms. Augustus," I was thinking of Clairemom for a minute... hence wondering where in the heck the pun was.

Ah. Sorry. I think of her as "Claire's mom" since we really don't know her name.

I've usually alternated between "Clairemom," "Claire's mom," and "Ms. Augustus." IOW, I probably have nobody but myself to blame for my confusion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 28 Oct 2014, 23:09
Dora and muffins give better advice than bourbon. We'll see.

Meanwhile at the library. Marten is floating in the air, but did he not notice that may be Claire did not want to tell their coworkers? We never saw her go through those mighty library doors. I'm mildly worried about  her sitting their alone waiting for the Ativan to kick in. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2432)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 23:14
Dora and muffins give better advice than bourbon. We'll see.

Meanwhile at the library. Marten is floating in the air, but did he not notice that may be Claire did not want to tell their coworkers? We never saw her go through those mighty library doors. I'm mildly worried about  her sitting their alone waiting for the Ativan to kick in. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2432)

Until Jeph shows otherwise, I'm going to assume this is something that Claire and Marten agreed had to be done. While Tai said Marten was in charge of inter wrangling, this comic makes it unambiguous that Marten is Claire's direct reporting superior. Which means he really did have to come clean to his boss about it, so they could decide how to manage it. Since the both used "we work together" as an excuse right up until they were (literally) face to face with their attraction, it's sensible to assume they talked about it.

With Jeph leaving more small beats out in pursuit of fewer words, I'm guessing that's they case.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 28 Oct 2014, 23:18
And a Claire-inet is a Reed instrument.

*applause*

Meanwhile at the library. Marten is floating in the air, but did he not notice that may be Claire did not want to tell their coworkers? We never saw her go through those mighty library doors. I'm mildly worried about  her sitting their alone waiting for the Ativan to kick in. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2432)

Despite my feelings about Monday's strip, I don't think her response is quite that serious.  Annoyed and a bit flustered, sure, but borderline-anxiety attack?  Seems unlikely.  Plus, I'm sure she would agree with Marten that Tai, at least, should know about the relationship, precisely for the reasons he voiced on Tuesday--which is why I'm a tiny bit bothered that they didn't broach the subject to her together (and making Tai go doubly-catatonic).  But I've probably fired my headcannon on these forums enough this week.

Until Jeph shows otherwise, I'm going to assume this is something that Claire and Marten agreed had to be done.

Ditto.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 28 Oct 2014, 23:23

The lesson, me thinks, is don't wait until you're "good." "Good enough" will do. What's good enough? Make something. show it someone else. Did they understand it? If yes, it's good enough.

Lesson two is, "You'll have time to be good at it when you're dead. Right now, it's time to be doing it."

Remember, anything worth dong is worth doing badly.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 28 Oct 2014, 23:27

Remember, anything worth dong is worth doing badly.
Was that intentional?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 28 Oct 2014, 23:35

Remember, anything worth dong is worth doing badly.
Was that intentional?

I'm dyin' here. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 29 Oct 2014, 00:05
The usual advice to beginning artists is to draw, draw, draw, because they've got 10,000 bad pictures inside them and they have to get them out before they start getting good. I think the same principle applies with beginning writers, because really, you can't get good at something if you don't practice doing it! Writing bad stories, comparing them to good stories and seeing why they're bad, learning how to make them better, is just something you gotta do. Most authors get dozens of rejection letters before publishing a single story, or write dozens of stories they don't even bother sending to editors before sending one they think is good.

I ran across an interesting quote recently in the Wikipedia article on Louis L'Amour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_L%27Amour), a writer of Western novels who was very popular from the Sixties through the Eighties:

Quote from: Wikipedia
When interviewed not long before his death, he was asked which among his books he liked best. His reply:

Quote from: Louis L'Amour
I like them all. There's bits and pieces of books that I think are good. I never rework a book. I'd rather use what I've learned on the next one, and make it a little bit better. The worst of it is that I'm no longer a kid and I'm just now getting to be a good writer. Just now.

This from a man who published "89 novels, 14 short-story collections, and two full-length works of nonfiction" and was considered "one of the world's most popular writers"! Geez, Louis, not long before your death is a helluva time to finally start getting good. Maybe work on your timing in your next life?  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 29 Oct 2014, 00:06
Meanwhile at the library. Marten is floating in the air, but did he not notice that may be Claire did not want to tell their coworkers?

I think going by the spirit of what she said rather than the letter, Claire wants to be professional and Marten telling Tai and offering to step down from intern wrangling is the professional thing to do.

Plus it's not like he COULD keep it from Tai. Word was already out and even if it wasn't it'd get to her eventually.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 29 Oct 2014, 00:08
I think that ship caught fire, exploded, sank, exploded again, and had its fragments crapped on by a passing whale.

But I still want to know how she feels about losing her roommate/oldest friend in less than a week.  And we're back again to idle speculation re: who will move in to his old room, especially since Faye isn't going anywhere and Marten isn't in the same need-a-new-roommate boat.

Do we know if Dale has a roommate? Maybe he and Marigold are both so socially unaware that they think it would be OK to move in together at this point. It might be an interesting story arc to have Marigold and Dale decide to move in together and have Dale mention it at CoD. The Gang could then spend a long time trying to convince Dale and Marigold that it's a bad idea.
May is Dale's roomate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 29 Oct 2014, 00:11
Sometimes I think we get a bit over analytical in here.
Some of us.  Not others.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 29 Oct 2014, 00:12
What's wrong with Claire?
Terrible sense of humour.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 29 Oct 2014, 00:13
What's wrong with Claire?
Terrible sense of humour.

W...what?!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 00:14
The usual advice to beginning artists is to draw, draw, draw, because they've got 10,000 bad pictures inside them and they have to get them out before they start getting good. I think the same principle applies with beginning writers, because really, you can't get good at something if you don't practice doing it! Writing bad stories, comparing them to good stories and seeing why they're bad, learning how to make them better, is just something you gotta do. Most authors get dozens of rejection letters before publishing a single story, or write dozens of stories they don't even bother sending to editors before sending one they think is good.

I ran across an interesting quote recently in the Wikipedia article on Louis L'Amour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_L%27Amour), a writer of Western novels who was very popular from the Sixties through the Eighties:

Quote from: Wikipedia
When interviewed not long before his death, he was asked which among his books he liked best. His reply:

Quote from: Louis L'Amour
I like them all. There's bits and pieces of books that I think are good. I never rework a book. I'd rather use what I've learned on the next one, and make it a little bit better. The worst of it is that I'm no longer a kid and I'm just now getting to be a good writer. Just now.

This from a man who published "89 novels, 14 short-story collections, and two full-length works of nonfiction" and was considered "one of the world's most popular writers"! Geez, Louis, not long before your death is a helluva time to finally start getting good. Maybe work on your timing in your next life?  :lol:
My name's ReindeerFlotilla and I approve this message.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 29 Oct 2014, 00:16
What's wrong with Claire?
Terrible sense of humour.

W...what?!
For example:
(https://questionablecontent.net/comics/2772.png)
https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2772 (https://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2772)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 00:18
Yes. Claire's one for bad puns. *I* think it's cute. (Said the guy who came up with Claire Annette)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 29 Oct 2014, 00:28
It's fairly typical of Faye to blame herself, think she's inadequate and use overindulgence as a crutch. Right now, I think that she's still hiding from talking to Angus again. IMHO, that is something that she must do to move on.

Dora is right - There is no shame in admitting that a relationship is going somewhere that you can't go. Better to end it on good terms than drag things out until loneliness, bitterness and infidelity make things tear apart in a pyrotechnic mess.

Do we know if Dale has a roommate? Maybe he and Marigold are both so socially unaware that they think it would be OK to move in together at this point. It might be an interesting story arc to have Marigold and Dale decide to move in together and have Dale mention it at CoD. The Gang could then spend a long time trying to convince Dale and Marigold that it's a bad idea.

May is Dale's roomate.

She was having a shower at Marigold and Angus's apartment at about the time Angus was talking to Faye at CoD. They might have met when he got home. Whilst it's unlikely that Angus would confide in a stranger whose only qualification is being Momo's sort-of-friend, May does have the advantage of having a neutral perspective: she doesn't know either of them. He wouldn't be the first guy to fall into conversation with a stranger when facing serious troubles.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 00:41
May has met Faye. You're right. She don't KNOW Faye, but they've met. I think they made a positive impression on each other.

Faye probably knows May is embodied, since she works with Dale, but my guess is they haven't spent any time together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 29 Oct 2014, 01:19
Puns are not terrible. Having said that, I think Claire's graping the bottom of the barrel in the strip quoted above.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: gopher on 29 Oct 2014, 01:32
Nice strip, good to see Dora admitting her limits. Faye is continuing to be a coward. Give it a go, try the long-distance thing and if it doesn't work out then at least you tried. You will always regret what you didn't do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Oct 2014, 01:42
Stoon, triple-posting is generally frowned upon, you can scroll back and click 'insert quote' to put multiple quotes in one post.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: eschaton on 29 Oct 2014, 07:01
Am I the only one who noticed that Faye "opened the door" a crack when talking with Dora?

With Marten last week, she sounded resolute.  Now she's doubting her reasons for ending the relationship, wondering if she's a coward. 

I actually am starting to think if Angus reappears, and says EXACTLY THE RIGHT THING she might back down and provisionally reconsider. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 29 Oct 2014, 08:25
Has she ended the relationship, though? Or just not yet done anything to try to preserve it? And the word "coward" is being tossed about a little casually, here, if you ask me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 08:44
Faye is being casually disrespectful of her self. It's not a sympathy gambit. She'd have done more to engage Dora's rebuttal if it were. She's genuinely concerned she might be a coward, or genuinely believes she deserves no more respect for what she did than insult.

Dora is right to point out that the question is better suited to therapy than muffins.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 29 Oct 2014, 09:34
Dora and muffins give better advice than bourbon. We'll see.

Meanwhile at the library. Marten is floating in the air, but did he not notice that may be Claire did not want to tell their coworkers? We never saw her go through those mighty library doors. I'm mildly worried about  her sitting their alone waiting for the Ativan to kick in. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2432)

He noticed, and in this case, saying something is actually being more respectful to Claire's wishes than not saying something. Tai already knows, and is already (obviously) very happy for both of them. Left to her own devices, she'd probably spill the beans sooner rather than later, so if it's discretion they're looking for, it makes sense that he'd want to talk to her. Even if she were the model of discretion, there's something else that's equally important: Tai may be Marten's friend outside work, but at work, she's not just a co-worker, she's his boss. It's a conversation they need to have, even if it simply ends with Tai telling Marten not to worry about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 29 Oct 2014, 09:45
Puns are not terrible. Having said that, I think Claire's graping the bottom of the barrel in the strip quoted above.

I see what you did there.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 29 Oct 2014, 09:45
At least muffins are healthier than burbon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 29 Oct 2014, 09:54
Faye just looks so morose eating that muffin.  Just makes you want to hug her and squeeze her and pat her and call her George and...

But seriously, I hope Faye clears the air between her and Angus.  You do not want something like that hanging over you like a dark cloud.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 29 Oct 2014, 10:07
But seriously, I hope Faye clears the air between her and Angus.  You do not want something like that hanging over you like a dark cloud.

That's my hope too. They had great times together and, one way or another, it would be terrible for those memories to end up poisoned.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 29 Oct 2014, 12:18
Faye's better off binging on food instead of booze, the only bad thing that'll come of that is a slightly larger butt.

Backtracking a slight bit, comic 2822 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2822) reminds me of the last panels of 2545 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2545) and 2608 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2608).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 29 Oct 2014, 12:22
This week will either end on drama



Or Yelling Bird
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 29 Oct 2014, 12:22
Faye's better off binging on food instead of booze, the only bad thing that'll come of that is a slightly larger butt.

Backtracking a slight bit, comic 2822 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2822) reminds me of the last panels of 2545 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2545) and 2608 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2608).

I See that as a bonus but then again, I've always preferred curves.  Still, it is good to see she isn't relying on that ol' Midnight Hobo.  Medicating on food isn't much better but hopefully she kicks seeing her therapist up to 11.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 29 Oct 2014, 12:52
Backtracking a slight bit, comic 2822 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2822) reminds me of the last panels of 2545 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2545) and 2608 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2608).

Y'know, there is the occasional strip in QC that really does seem to support Hannelore's theory that's it's all an occasionally-glitching sim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 29 Oct 2014, 13:15
And how is it that Marten hasn't found the unlimited guitars glitch yet?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 13:20
I like how Marten has the option to ask for God mode, but inn stead goes for infinite guitars.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 29 Oct 2014, 13:32
This week will either end on drama



Or Yelling Bird

Could be both...

I like how Marten has the option to ask for God mode, but inn stead goes for infinite guitars.

From his point of view, could be both...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 13:42
I'm not putting him down. He could ask for the fame and fortune hack, or the skill booster, but all he really wants is a never ending supply of guitars.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 29 Oct 2014, 15:51
I like how Marten has the option to ask for God mode, but inn stead goes for infinite guitars.

From his point of view, could be both...

God Mode would be boring. Infinite guitars, on the other hand, lets him concentrate on guitar skill rather than getting the proper axe.

(click to show/hide)

It also reduces the pressure on his job (he took extra hours once he impulse-bought an 8-string) and can make him really look forward to playing them. Win-win-win, basically.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 29 Oct 2014, 16:11

God Mode would be boring. Infinite guitars, on the other hand, lets him concentrate on guitar skill rather than getting the proper axe.

It also reduces the pressure on his job (he took extra hours once he impulse-bought an 8-string) and can make him really look forward to playing them. Win-win-win, basically.

I keep thinking of the "We need guns, lots of guns" scene in The Matrix,

But with racks of guitars.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 16:30
All I'm saying is that Marten, when facing the possibility that he lives in simulated world, indeed is a simulation himself, only wants infinite guitars.

A universe, basically without consequence, where he could do anything should the cheat code exist. So the amount of challenge, job stress reduction, anything at all, is basically arbitrary.

But all it takes to make Marten happy is all the guitars he could ask for.

That's pretty much all you need to know to understand Marten Reed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Svennerson on 29 Oct 2014, 17:26
Backtracking a slight bit, comic 2822 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2822) reminds me of the last panels of 2545 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2545) and 2608 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2608).

And also 1081 (http://questionablecontent.net//view.php?comic=1081).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 17:32
And also 1081 (http://questionablecontent.net//view.php?comic=1081).

May favorite version of Faye.  Ah,  memories.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 29 Oct 2014, 17:33
All I'm saying is that Marten, when facing the possibility that he lives in simulated world, indeed is a simulation himself, only wants infinite guitars.

A universe, basically without consequence, where he could do anything should the cheat code exist. So the amount of challenge, job stress reduction, anything at all, is basically arbitrary.

But all it takes to make Marten happy is all the guitars he could ask for.

That's pretty much all you need to know to understand Marten Reed.

What about his harem of intelligent sexy ladies whom he has absolutely no chance with? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=443)

(...yeah probably not very applicable after this last QC in-comic weekend because of  :claireface: but it's at least a secondary goal in life  :-P)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 29 Oct 2014, 17:50
But that's not anything he's trying to attain via cheats, he's doing it the legitimate way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 18:15
But that's not anything he's trying to attain via cheats, he's doing it the legitimate way.

Exactly my point. He doesn't want the infinite guitar skills cheat. He wants infinite guitars. He hasn't got a solid idea of what he wants, but he plans to get whatever it is on his own merits.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Svennerson on 29 Oct 2014, 19:02
Comic's up.  Panel 2 I was all "this is gonna be a hella cute line" but then I was all like "GOD DAMN IT TAI XD"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 29 Oct 2014, 19:12
Is it just me or the artwork on Claire is a little different today? specially on panel 2?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 19:12
At least Tai can breathe now.
Is it just me or the artwork on Claire is a little different today? specially on panel 2?
Nothing stands out to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalillama on 29 Oct 2014, 19:19
I know why tai could act like this but....she already knew of it so why the first impression squee? unless it still going from the day before lol
No, she knew that Faye had last seen them cuddling drunkenly on the couch, and that Marten was gone when Faye got up.  The rest was merely suspicion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 29 Oct 2014, 19:20
Meanwhile at the library. Marten is floating in the air, but did he not notice that may be Claire did not want to tell their coworkers? We never saw her go through those mighty library doors. I'm mildly worried about  her sitting their alone waiting for the Ativan to kick in. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2432)

Despite my feelings about Monday's strip, I don't think her response is quite that serious.  Annoyed and a bit flustered, sure, but borderline-anxiety attack?  Seems unlikely.  Plus, I'm sure she would agree with Marten that Tai, at least, should know about the relationship, precisely for the reasons he voiced on Tuesday--which is why I'm a tiny bit bothered that they didn't broach the subject to her together (and making Tai go doubly-catatonic).  But I've probably fired my headcannon on these forums enough this week.

Comment rescinded, fears allayed.  Now I'm just wondering why Tai isn't using the intercom and/or a bullhorn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 29 Oct 2014, 19:20
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Svennerson on 29 Oct 2014, 19:22
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'

No.  Not at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 29 Oct 2014, 19:24
Is it just me or the artwork on Claire is a little different today? specially on panel 2?

How do you think she's different? Still looks the same from here.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: McFace on 29 Oct 2014, 19:58
Subtle reminder in this one that Claire hasn't really been around that long and thus would not know how their social circle really operates.

Also I think it was a good time saving strip so that Jeph can avoid having Marten tell every other person that they are dating.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 29 Oct 2014, 20:14
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'
I think many of us would have liked to have that, but Tai going nuts over the phone - and that being predictable - is hilarious.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 29 Oct 2014, 20:32
Is it just me or the artwork on Claire is a little different today? specially on panel 2?

How do you think she's different? Still looks the same from here.

I dunno. Maybe it's the angle or shading, but seems to jump off the page a bit more today to me for some reason....maybe I'm just tired?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 29 Oct 2014, 20:41
Is it just me or the artwork on Claire is a little different today? specially on panel 2?

How do you think she's different? Still looks the same from here.

I dunno. Maybe it's the angle or shading, but seems to jump off the page a bit more today to me for some reason....maybe I'm just tired?

I compared today's strip to Monday's. The shading looks about the same. I think it might be the fact that she's against a darker background than she was in the house strips and the library (both of which had her against that pale blue background Jeph seems to gravitate toward). Today she's in the library, so maybe she's just more contrast-y?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 20:47
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'

That might have been a bit over done for, "let's see where this takes us." I don't think we're quite in love territory just yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 29 Oct 2014, 20:49
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'

That might have been a bit over done for, "let's see where this takes us." I don't think we're quite in love territory just yet.

I really want that reasonable number of babies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 20:51
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'

That might have been a bit over done for, "let's see where this takes us." I don't think we're quite in love territory just yet.

I really want that reasonable number of babies.

That's not physically possible. 1) the technology isn't complete. 2) Jeph has a strict "no babies" policy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 29 Oct 2014, 20:54

I really want that reasonable number of babies.

That's not physically possible. 1) the technology isn't complete. 2) Jeph has a strict "no babies" policy.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2240
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 29 Oct 2014, 21:00
Marten seems happier about this than Claire is. Understandable but worrisome.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 29 Oct 2014, 21:06
That's not Claire's "unhappy" face. That's Claire's "genuine surprise" face. I don't think she's either upset or really interested in keeping it a secret. I think she just wants to know who knows and who doesn't. I suspect she wasn't expecting the answer to be We'll find out in three, two..."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 29 Oct 2014, 21:48
Marten seems on top of everything right now. Like Chessmaster style, it's kinda cool kinda worrisome
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 29 Oct 2014, 21:50
Last panel she's just surprised. Look in the 3rd panel is probably just confusion, maybe a unwarranted 'Y-you don't want to tell anybody about me?'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 29 Oct 2014, 22:41
TNN
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 29 Oct 2014, 22:50
TNN

ohmygosh James Earl Jones HAS to record the promo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 29 Oct 2014, 22:57
Or Michael Dorn, who I've always considered a younger sounding James Earl Jones.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 29 Oct 2014, 23:35
Last panel she's just surprised. Look in the 3rd panel is probably just confusion, maybe a unwarranted 'Y-you don't want to tell anybody about me?'

Oh god, please don't give her wibbly eyes (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1608), I don't think my heart could take it.

TNN

ohmygosh James Earl Jones HAS to record the promo.

Am confuzd, plz explain?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 29 Oct 2014, 23:57
If we assume each "Ding" is a different person then we have:

Dora
Faye
Hanners

I'm trying to work out who the other 3 are.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 30 Oct 2014, 00:00
Other possibilites:
Marigold
Emily
Gabby
Steve
Cosette
Penelope (probably not)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 00:06
Steve
Cosette
Emily
Marigold
ohmygosh James Earl Jones HAS to record the promo.

Am confuzd, plz explain?

CNN (http://bit.ly/1sIFezn)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Storel on 30 Oct 2014, 00:12
I was confused about what TNN stood for, but I eventually decided it must be the Tai News Network.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 30 Oct 2014, 00:15
Martin's face looks more like "im just accepting this with tai" then happy about it. Not that i blame him its not really her business to go and tell absolutely everyone he knows the moment he walks away.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mvdwege on 30 Oct 2014, 00:20
Is it wrong to have wanted the sappy sweet 'A blind person could see that I'm nuts about you.'
Morally? No. Factually? Maybe.

Marten is not given to much outward display of emotion. He has been slightly friendlier to Claire than to the other interns, but to say that that made his attraction obvious? I didn't see it, at least.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 00:23
So... I'm thinking that Tai is sort of "gossip hub" for Marten's social circle. Tell her and you're told everyone!

If we assume each "Ding" is a different person then we have:

Dora
Faye
Hanners

I'm trying to work out who the other 3 are.

Additionally, they have to all be in Marten's contact list too, or he wouldn't get the alert. Hmmm... I'm thinking:
Tai met Steve and Cossette at the lake party, so she probably know they're Marten's friends too. We haven't seen Emily yet, so it may be her day off. Tai knows that Emily regards Claire as her best friend, so she has a 'need to know'.

Marten seems happier about this than Claire is. Understandable but worrisome.

I don't think Claire has ever experienced such a large and close social 'family' before. Having all these people in her life and interested in her life is going to be a new experience for her. Maybe a bit overwhelming at first but I think she'll get used to it. The first 'we are sistahs' night with the girls will be the real Eye-opener!

Regarding Claire looking different, I've expected this. Simply knowing that she's desirable to someone has changed her mental body iimage; she's carrying herself more confidently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 00:25
Nobody saw it. Faye would have said something to Marten. Probably something crass.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Emperor Norton on 30 Oct 2014, 02:02
If we assume each "Ding" is a different person then we have:

Dora
Faye
Hanners

I'm trying to work out who the other 3 are.

Not Hanners. Marten already told her earlier, so she has no reason to do the "omg text" reaction, since she already did it. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2819

Also, we don't have to assume they were all contacted directly by Tai. For instance, you could have a situation like:

Tai messages Dora, Emily, and Marigold. Dora tells Faye at work. Cosette is also working and hears the conversation, so messages Steve. Marigold tells Angus. While picking up coffee, Jim hears about it, because the baristas are all talking about it, and messages Veronica. Emily tells a random stranger who is very confused.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 30 Oct 2014, 02:14
If we assume each "Ding" is a different person then we have:

Dora
Faye
Hanners

I'm trying to work out who the other 3 are.
... Tai messages Dora, Emily, and Marigold. Dora tells Faye at work. Cosette is also working and hears the conversation, so messages Steve. Marigold tells Angus. While picking up coffee, Jim hears about it, because the baristas are all talking about it, and messages Veronica. Emily tells a random stranger who is very confused.
I keep forgetting Veronica Reed is in Northampton. Now there's some potential for fun times.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 02:15
Not Hanners. Marten already told her earlier, so she has no reason to do the "omg text" reaction, since she already did it. http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2819

Two things to remember:
Meanwhile, on a confidential message wall, the planning for the party has begun. What starts as a relatively quiet and simple gathering for Marten and his close circle to welcome Claire into the group will rapidly turn into something a lot larger and a lot more chaotic, IMO. Especially after Veronica hears about it; she's fancied Claire as a future daughter-in-law since the wedding, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 30 Oct 2014, 02:43
Claire on panel 3: "What do you mean you aren't telling anyone else? You don't seem to be one for sappy lines and you aren't fumbling your way through one either."
Claire on panel 4: "Bruh."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Oct 2014, 02:55
Especially after Veronica hears about it; she's fancied Claire as a future daughter-in-law since the wedding, I think.

Although Veronica got a very wrong read on Claire's personality.

Claire doesn't exactly do calm or collected, that's Marten's job!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 30 Oct 2014, 03:27
Meanwhile, on a confidential message wall, the planning for the party has begun. What starts as a relatively quiet and simple gathering for Marten and his close circle to welcome Claire into the group will rapidly turn into something a lot larger and a lot more chaotic, IMO. Especially after Veronica hears about it; she's fancied Claire as a future daughter-in-law since the wedding, I think.

Something like.. this (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-CASTPOSTER2014&Category_Code=QC)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 30 Oct 2014, 04:46
Especially after Veronica hears about it; she's fancied Claire as a future daughter-in-law since the wedding, I think.

Although Veronica got a very wrong read on Claire's personality.

Claire doesn't exactly do calm or collected, that's Marten's job!

I think she probably will be quite calm and collected, once she is in a functioning relationship, surrounded by friends she can trust. Her anxiety seems to be linked to her trans status, and fears about the reactions of people around her. I might be wrong, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 30 Oct 2014, 05:07
Guess the people getting all upset about Marten not respecting Claire's boundaries should have waited a day or so, huh? 8-)

... or waited two more.  :-\

Not cool, Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Oct 2014, 05:18
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

New headcanon: The rabbit hole of puns goes deeper than this.

What is a clarinet? It's a reed instrument.

What was Marten's first concert? A clarinet (http://questionablecontent.net/1989) concert. When Claire finds that out... say, Claire Annette Reed has a nice sound to it, doesn't it? (And, let's face it, if they ever got married, Claire is ridiculously traditional when it comes to marriage, I'd be surprised if she didn't take her partner's name.)

However, a clarinet only has a single reed. Prediction: Claire admits after a few years of marriage that she was first interested in Marten purely because of the pun. Marten immediately files for divorce, and Claire decides not to change her name back, because the pun is just too good.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 30 Oct 2014, 05:30
However, a clarinet only has a single reed.

Para-clarinets?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 30 Oct 2014, 06:14
Oooh. That's right. Veronica IS in North Hampton now. Move over Tai, the chief shipper is on her way!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 30 Oct 2014, 06:58
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

New headcanon: The rabbit hole of puns goes deeper than this.

What is a clarinet? It's a reed instrument.

What was Marten's first concert? A clarinet (http://questionablecontent.net/1989) concert. When Claire finds that out... say, Claire Annette Reed has a nice sound to it, doesn't it?


You're an awful person who will come to a bad end.

Let's be friends!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 07:04
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

I've just got the feeling that her first name is Clarice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383). Veronica knew her once (on a personal rather than professional level) and Claire looks so much like her that in her scotch-lubricated state, Veronica thought Claire was her mother.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 30 Oct 2014, 07:08
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

I've just got the feeling that her first name is Clarice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383). Veronica knew her once (on a personal rather than professional level) and Claire looks so much like her that in her scotch-lubricated state, Veronica thought Claire was her mother.

If you could choose your name would you name yourself after a parent or pick something cool like Claire or FighterJet?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 07:17
If you could choose your name would you name yourself after a parent or pick something cool like Claire or FighterJet?

I've got a funny feeling that there is a tradition of some sort in that family that all first names should start with a 'cl' sound. Yes, that's weird but I've heard weirder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 30 Oct 2014, 07:22
Fun fact: in the maternal branch of my family all the female names start with "An" (Antje, Anja, Anke, …). Even the name of my uncle's wife.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2014, 07:26
Family naming traditions can be weird. I can see Claire wanting to stick to a family tradition. When I had my name changed, I took my mother's maiden name. It would be a bit strange and probably confusing to change her first name to one so close to her mother's.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Oct 2014, 07:47
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

I've just got the feeling that her first name is Clarice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383).
ReindeerFlotilla was talking about the younger Ms. Augustus, the one we know as Claire, I thought.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Oct 2014, 08:04
Fun fact: in the maternal branch of my family all the female names start with "An" (Antje, Anja, Anke, …). Even the name of my uncle's wife.  :psyduck:
All my siblings have names starting with the letter T. The tradition was ended with me after my mom vetoed my dad's suggestion of "Terry".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 30 Oct 2014, 08:11
Fun fact: in the maternal branch of my family all the female names start with "An" (Antje, Anja, Anke, …). Even the name of my uncle's wife.  :psyduck:

I was named after my grandparent. So is my dad after his. And his dad... So we're all a long line of "José / Jose" (Depending on middle name we write it one way or the other)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 30 Oct 2014, 08:14
Guess the people getting all upset about Marten not respecting Claire's boundaries should have waited a day or so, huh? 8-)

... or waited two more.  :-\

Not cool, Marten.

Why "not cool"? Tai's Marten and Claire's boss. He had to have the discussion with her. It's also likely that he asked her to keep it quiet, per Claire's wishes, but also suspected she wouldn't (hence what he says in the last panel, and a facial expression that reads as equal parts amused and bemused.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 30 Oct 2014, 08:23
It's also likely that he asked her to keep it quiet, per Claire's wishes, but also suspected she wouldn't (hence what he says in the last panel, and a facial expression that reads as equal parts amused and bemused.

I didn't get the sense that Claire wanted their relationship kept secret at the office so much as she wanted to make sure Marten understood that she planned to be completely professional about it, and wanted him to do the same.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 30 Oct 2014, 08:25
On the tangent of names:  I have no idea where my name (Jeffrey) came from.  No one in my family, that I can recall, has it but I do have my mother's middle name. (Lynn, which I was teased about endlessly as a kid.)  I think since I was an unexpected child (my mom was 16 when she had me, and my parents are still married after 28 years.) they just came up with the name.  Coincidentally, my mom and I have the same initials. 

On comic topic:

Tai going and telling the 'circle' was pretty much what I expected to happen when she found out.  My guesses for the texts:  Dora, Faye, Steve, and one off-panel text from Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 08:26
Why "not cool"? Tai's Marten and Claire's boss. He had to have the discussion with her. It's also likely that he asked her to keep it quiet, per Claire's wishes, but also suspected she wouldn't (hence what he says in the last panel, and a facial expression that reads as equal parts amused and bemused.

FWIW, I have seen nothing to suggest that Claire wants it kept quiet. What she wanted was for Marten to behave professionally whilst they were at work. Panel 2 shows that Claire fully expected Marten to tell other people so she was surprised when Marten came back with 'No need'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 30 Oct 2014, 08:31
Tai going and telling the 'circle' was pretty much what I expected to happen when she found out.  My guesses for the texts:  Dora, Faye, Steve, and one off-panel text from Pintsize.

There's 6 listed dings in there, although I agree it's kinda hard to get more texts than those 4 at this point in time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 08:33
Tai going and telling the 'circle' was pretty much what I expected to happen when she found out.  My guesses for the texts:  Dora, Faye, Steve, and one off-panel text from Pintsize.

There's 6 listed dings in there, although I agree it's kinda hard to get more texts than those 4 at this point in time.

Yeah, it's in the Signal now; there's no controlling the news or stopping anyone who might just be watching someone further down the chain's Facebook wall from finding out about it. Yes, I'm pretty sure this is how Clinton finds out; he's stalking Hannelore in a passive-aggressive way by watching her wall and hoping against hope that she'll mention him one day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 30 Oct 2014, 08:50
You know you may be a bit too emotionally invested in a webcomic when you've noted with concern that Claire hasn't smiled at all in the last two strips.

...and you know the storyteller is a troll when you wonder if you should say anything about it, 'cause you might get this  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1584)or this  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1585)as a response.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 30 Oct 2014, 08:58
I think Hannelore's smile is far more horrifying than Mieviille's.  Cats are already evil bastards bent on taking over the world with purrs, fuzzy bellies, and chin scratchies.  Hanner's just makes me feel like she's one unfortunate trip into a vat of chemicals away from terrorizing Noho with ridiculously themed crimes and a Cesar Romero moustache.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 30 Oct 2014, 08:59
There is a terrifying symmetry in those two strips.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 30 Oct 2014, 09:03
Tai going and telling the 'circle' was pretty much what I expected to happen when she found out.  My guesses for the texts:  Dora, Faye, Steve, and one off-panel text from Pintsize.

There's 6 listed dings in there, although I agree it's kinda hard to get more texts than those 4 at this point in time.

It's actually six texts suddenly declaring their undying love for Marten (from Faye, Dora, Padma, Delilah, that girl Marten moved here with from California, and Steve).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 30 Oct 2014, 09:35
Damn blackbird that's cold. And completely plausible.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2014, 09:41
It would have been impossible to keep their relationship secret from work, unless they kept it a secret from everyone. Emily and especially Tai are in Marten and Claire's (mostly Marten's) circle of friends. Even if they didn't come clean at work it would take a day, maybe two at most till it got back to Tai from Dora. Besides, Claire didn't want to keep it secret, she wanted to keep it professional. No kissy faces in the stacks. No special treatment because they are dating. Basically acting more professional about it than everyone else in the library. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 30 Oct 2014, 09:53
It would have been impossible to keep their relationship secret from work, unless they kept it a secret from everyone. Emily and especially Tai are in Marten and Claire's (mostly Marten's) circle of friends. Even if they didn't come clean at work it would take a day, maybe two at most till it got back to Tai from Dora. Besides, Claire didn't want to keep it secret, she wanted to keep it professional. No kissy faces in the stacks. No special treatment because they are dating. Basically acting more professional about it than everyone else in the library. :)

Poor choice of words on my part. I don't mean "secret," so much as just "Can we please have this not be a big thing at work?" I agree with you (and others) that it's more about professionalism, but I can see where it didn't quite come off that way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 30 Oct 2014, 10:32
Workplace relationships are difficult. That's a fact. And you know what? depending on the job, I could agree with it being against the rules. Most of the time tho, not really. They are only an issue if people make it an issue...and THAT'S the issue.

People can't be trusted most of the time to keep personal separate from work. Same with being friends with your boss. A lot of people can't understand work is work and its not personal if they are reprimanded. Obviously with this bunch it shouldn't be an issue. Claire is too invested in this job as a career and Marten wouldn't act without considering Claire's feelings about it (teasing her like he did is not big enough a thing to invalidate this statement). So I think they will be fine.

But yeah, it's a delicate thing to balance. Good thing Marten, should he choose to use it, has blackmail material on two of the board members if they found out or cared enough. Then again, one of them pretends to be a janitor so....don't think he would lol

(will edit the referenced strip links later, can't archive search at the moment)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 10:35
The real question about Ms. Augustus is, is her middle name Annette?

I've just got the feeling that her first name is Clarice (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383).
ReindeerFlotilla was talking about the younger Ms. Augustus, the one we know as Claire, I thought.

Indeed, I was. I was writing a subtle pun. It wouldn't do to put the words "Claire" and "Annette" in there together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2014, 10:37
And Claire is the only one who really takes work at the library seriously. And probably Momo. Tai and Marten pal around all the time. Tai gets stoned at work. Emily is... Emily. Trustees are having sex in the back rooms. Nobody knows how Gabby acts since she's been pretty much written out of the story. She may not even be working there anymore. Work clearly gets done well enough, but it's a very relaxed atmosphere to work in. Claire and Marten are being a lot more responsible than a lot of people would be in that job, but as said, being a librarian and working in the Smif Library is important to Claire. So it's good that Marten respects that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 10:48
I do wonder what happened to Gabby. One of the last conversations between her and Marten was basically her making very cynical comments about what his 'angle' was in not making a fuss about Tai dating Dora. If she does still work at the library (and, frankly, I can't see why not), it wouldn't surprise me if she's one of those co-workers who is strictly on a professional communication basis simply because she doesn't get on with the others on a personal level. In other words, she's not part of the Marten Reed extended social circle.

Could she cause trouble if she found out about Marten and Claire's relationship? Possibly but I get the feeling that there isn't actually a rule that they're breaking. Unless it suited the trustees or the Dean's supervisory board to make trouble, it probably wouldn't go further than them being asked to verbally assure upper management that they'll not let their personal lives leak into their professional lives.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 11:01
Grabby was eaten by a brontosaur.

The allosaur was busy.

(Yes, I am aware that brontosaurus was never a real living thing.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 30 Oct 2014, 11:19
Grabby was eaten by a brontosaur.

(Yes, I am aware that brontosaurus was never a real living thing.)
There are a lot of nice theories about the Brontosaurus. Just ask Anne Elk (Miss).


Anyway, back on-topic: The summer must surely be over soon, right? According to the other thread we're now far into August, which means that it can't be that many weeks left on the summer internship. At which point the work relation between Marten and Claire ends and they're free to do whatever they want without any complications from work. Though I could see the trustee all of a sudden coming and saying that Tai is leaving (because she's graduated) and Claire will take over her position, as she's the only one qualified to take over that position.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 30 Oct 2014, 11:29
Grabby was eaten by a brontosaur.

(Yes, I am aware that brontosaurus was never a real living thing.)
There are a lot of nice theories about the Brontosaurus. Just ask Anne Elk (Miss).


Anyway, back on-topic: The summer must surely be over soon, right? According to the other thread we're now far into August, which means that it can't be that many weeks left on the summer internship. At which point the work relation between Marten and Claire ends and they're free to do whatever they want without any complications from work. Though I could see the trustee all of a sudden coming and saying that Tai is leaving (because she's graduated) and Claire will take over her position, as she's the only one qualified to take over that position.

That's not how the hiring process typically goes at a college or university, though. Even for lower-level management positions, it's a long, drawn-out process. Claire would have to apply alongside several other applicants, go through a couple of rounds of interviews, et cetera (which sounds suspiciously like Angus's storyline, come to think of it), and that's not to mention several layers of bureaucracy and office politics. It's likely she's well qualified (probably more so than Tai), but that doesn't necessarily mean she'd be a shoo-in for the job.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 30 Oct 2014, 11:40
The other thing is, they're stressing the whole "employees" thing.

Did Claire possibly get hired as a regular employee?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 11:44
This is the guess on my part but, because Claire is an MLS student, she may continue to work at the Library (although on a far more part-time basis, maybe 2-3 days per week) as part of her course. However, Emily and Gabby's internships may end and what happens after that depends strongly on what they're doing.

Emily is evidently studying to be an IT/AI engineer (shockingly enough), so she may still be in college because she's studying for a MEng. It might be interesting if she does work experience at the AI shop, leading to more contact with May, Momo, Pintsize and Winslow.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 30 Oct 2014, 12:01
The other thing is, they're stressing the whole "employees" thing.

Did Claire possibly get hired as a regular employee?

official employees or not, the issue is that Marten is her direct superior and whom she reports to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Oct 2014, 12:27
We only have a guess about the source of Claire's anxiety. Being a driven graduate student creates many opportunities to develop an anxiety disorder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Oct 2014, 12:29
We only have a guess about the source of Claire's anxiety. Being a driven graduate student creates many opportunities to develop an anxiety disorder.
No, graduate students are the calmest people in the world.

(please ignore the pile of chewed-up pencils on the table)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 30 Oct 2014, 13:51
We only have a guess about the source of Claire's anxiety. Being a driven graduate student creates many opportunities to develop an anxiety disorder.
No, graduate students are the calmest people in the world.

(please ignore the pile of chewed-up pencils on the table)
(please also ignore the dark circles under my eyes)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 30 Oct 2014, 14:21
You know you may be a bit too emotionally invested in a webcomic when you've noted with concern that Claire hasn't smiled at all in the last two strips.

I was about to post my concern that, actually, Claire didn't smile at all during the whole encounter at her house, except for the "nuzzling" smile at the end of # 2808, and hasn't smiled in response to Marten since.  How invested am I?  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Oct 2014, 14:39
If you could choose your name would you name yourself after a parent or pick something cool like Claire or FighterJet?

I've got a funny feeling that there is a tradition of some sort in that family that all first names should start with a 'cl' sound. Yes, that's weird but I've heard weirder.

My one aunt's family has all names that start with a K. With a last name that starts with a Q... well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 30 Oct 2014, 14:47
You know you may be a bit too emotionally invested in a webcomic when you've noted with concern that Claire hasn't smiled at all in the last two strips.

I was about to post my concern that, actually, Claire didn't smile at all during the whole encounter at her house, except for the "nuzzling" smile at the end of # 2808, and hasn't smiled in response to Marten since.  How invested am I?  :-)

Yeah, 'bout the same as me, I guess.   :-D

My wife tells me I've pretty much lost the right to snort derisively at how emotional she gets about Big Brother.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 14:56
Has Claire had a reason to smile?

I mean, we've seen her in two strips since her last smile. In the first, she had something serious to say and didn't get a serious reply, on screen.

In the second, she's concerned about how her boss is going to react, and how her new thing is going to go over socially. At the end of both, she's reacting with some flavor of surprise.

The door is still open about Marten responding to her serious statement with something less than serious. On balance, I would guess that isn't going to be an issue. It could have been. It might still be. (Seriously. People--especially men--undermining their SOs and calling it playful is a thing. Claire probably doesn't have the experience romantically to see that side of it. Otoh, men "playfully" undermining women as a form of social dominance is also a thing, and it's logical to assume Claire should be familiar with that. She was a man four years ago, regardless of how she identified. She has direct experience with the different ways men and boys are treated and undermined in social contexts. It's like the FTM scientist who overheard peers discussing how much better his work was than his "sister's." People react with unconscious bias.) If Claire does have a problem with Marten's behavior, we'll find out. But, at the moment, it seems she doesn't.

It's just too early to be looking for patterns, IMO. If something happens, it makes sense to wonder "what now?" But if something isn't followed by something else, it's just another data point.

If Claire had reason to smile in the short time we've seen, I might think something was up. As it is, l don't think she's had a reason.

Keep in mind, we've seen a few seconds of at least several minutes. We don't know what we've missed.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Tova on 30 Oct 2014, 15:00
I feel like I'm reading a different comic to everyone else right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 15:09
I feel like I'm reading a different comic to everyone else right now.

You are, from a subjective point of view. Since all points of view are subjective...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoon on 30 Oct 2014, 15:10
I feel like I'm reading a different comic to everyone else right now.
Some of the people on the forums have a tendency to get overanalytical.   The facial expression of a particular character in a particular frame becomes the subject for a Master's thesis.  Heck, I posted a particular comic to be a funny response to someone's comment and someone wrote a PhD thesis to prove that I was wrong in my interpretation. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 30 Oct 2014, 15:13
Something like.. this (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-CASTPOSTER2014&Category_Code=QC)?

Is it me, or is Sven trying to get a look at Faye's butt?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 30 Oct 2014, 15:15
I feel like I'm reading a different comic to everyone else right now.
Some of the people on the forums have a tendency to get overanalytical.   The facial expression of a particular character in a particular frame becomes the subject for a Master's thesis.  Heck, I posted a particular comic to be a funny response to someone's comment and someone wrote a PhD thesis to prove that I was wrong in my interpretation.
Fun fact: My Ph.D. thesis is on the geometry of Claire's hair.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 30 Oct 2014, 15:15
I'm calling it......Tai being LBGT positive, inadvertently outs Claire to everyone in a moment of lapse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 15:17
@Cs133 - If you get the doctorate, let us know! :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 30 Oct 2014, 15:20
Something like.. this (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-CASTPOSTER2014&Category_Code=QC)?

Is it me, or is Sven trying to get a look at Faye's butt?

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking this morning stephen. Maybe even analyzing her body language and inadvertedly thinking "could that mean she'd be free in the future?".

Although a "DAT ASS THO" seems more on character to Sven.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 30 Oct 2014, 15:26
I mean, we've seen her in two strips since her last smile. In the first, she had something serious to say and didn't get a serious reply, on screen.

In the second, she's concerned about how her boss is going to react, and how her new thing is going to go over socially. At the end of both, she's reacting with some flavor of surprise.
[...]
Keep in mind, we've seen a few seconds of at least several minutes. We don't know what we've missed.

And at home, she was bewildered/taken aback for several strips, then concerned about Marten's thoughts re: her status.  Once they get off work and have the most immediate concerns behind them, hopefully Claire will have some opportunity to relax and smile and crack an awful awesome pun.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 30 Oct 2014, 15:27
TNN

ohmygosh James Earl Jones HAS to record the promo.

Am confuzd, plz explain?


Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 30 Oct 2014, 15:28
Something like.. this (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-CASTPOSTER2014&Category_Code=QC)?

Is it me, or is Sven trying to get a look at Faye's butt?

Sven's sharing a sexy look with Penelope in front of a oblivious Wil!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 30 Oct 2014, 15:34
Something like.. this (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-CASTPOSTER2014&Category_Code=QC)?

Is it me, or is Sven trying to get a look at Faye's butt?

Sven's sharing a sexy look with Penelope in front of a oblivious Wil!

That's a possibility. But the angle of his gaze and the expression on his face could more easily be read as looking at Angus and thinking "so THAT's my competition?" or even looking at Emily and trying to figure her out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 30 Oct 2014, 15:57
I mean, we've seen her in two strips since her last smile. In the first, she had something serious to say and didn't get a serious reply, on screen.

In the second, she's concerned about how her boss is going to react, and how her new thing is going to go over socially. At the end of both, she's reacting with some flavor of surprise.
[...]
Keep in mind, we've seen a few seconds of at least several minutes. We don't know what we've missed.

And at home, she was bewildered/taken aback for several strips, then concerned about Marten's thoughts re: her status.  Once they get off work and have the most immediate concerns behind them, hopefully Claire will have some opportunity to relax and smile and crack an awful awesome pun.

It's funny - intellectually, I know there's nothing about anything I've read/seen previously that matters a hill of beans to the progression of the story - Jeph's going to draw the next comic, and then that will be canon, so worrying about it isn't just useless, it's silly.

I am really intrigued at how this particular webcomic romance is hitting all my buttons as opposed to any of the others I've read before (or even currently - DumbingOfAge has about five simmering in the slow cooker).  Whether by design or by accident, Jeph's managed to make me care what happens to these two, and I can't put my finger on exactly why.

Not that I'm complaining.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 30 Oct 2014, 16:03
That's a possibility. But the angle of his gaze and the expression on his face could more easily be read as looking at Angus and thinking "so THAT's my competition?" or even looking at Emily and trying to figure her out.

That's what I thought - looking at the commotion that will inevitably be caused by the bug chase.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 16:52

It's funny - intellectually, I know there's nothing about anything I've read/seen previously that matters a hill of beans to the progression of the story - Jeph's going to draw the next comic, and then that will be canon, so worrying about it isn't just useless, it's silly.

I am really intrigued at how this particular webcomic romance is hitting all my buttons as opposed to any of the others I've read before (or even currently - DumbingOfAge has about five simmering in the slow cooker).  Whether by design or by accident, Jeph's managed to make me care what happens to these two, and I can't put my finger on exactly why.

Not that I'm complaining.

I think it is an investment effect. I cared about Marten and Dora. I can't be arsed about Faye and Angus. I have nothing against Angus. I just didn't have anything for him.

I suppose that's why I didn't give much thought or care about Padma or Delilah. They existed specifically to be Marten's interests. Angus has a bit more background, but even that pretty much sums to being interested in Faye.

Claire isn't quite her own character, in retrospect. It's clear she had a thing for Marten for a while. But she didn't engage as a one trick pony. Because she basically acted to hide how she felt, and we weren't given a look inside her head, she came across as a more complex character.

Also, shipping aside, I don't think I expected the size and brass content of Jeph's ones was sufficient to go there. I pretty much joined this forum because I was so impressed by the effort.

Aside from the character development, there's also the presentation.

I could have gotten behind Padma, and actually cared about the way Marten blew that, because she's drawn cute, and has a pretty unique character trait--she's not afraid of Faye. I tend to poo poo Faye's violence, but mostly because it is nonconsentual. Padma was go from the beginning, and it was just a game (you were supposed to block!).

Except for her first appearance, Claire is almost over the top with the cute. It's over 9000. Her quirk is anxiety that seems ever present but almost never stops her.

None of this is objective, mind you. It's my experience. Other people have a completely different read on her, and that's okay. I just figured this might be relevant to your experience.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Oct 2014, 18:37
She was a man four years ago, regardless of how she identified.

Her life was indeed shaped by being misgendered, which I believe was your primary point.

Thinking of younger Claire as a "man", though, interferes with careful thinking about trans* people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 19:46
She was a man four years ago, regardless of how she identified.

Her life was indeed shaped by being misgendered, which I believe was your primary point.

Thinking of younger Claire as a "man", though, interferes with careful thinking about trans* people.

That's a bit pedantic, to the point. I'm all for respecting people's identity, but there's an infinite field of "this term means that to me."

Normally, I don't care to correct this kind of thing, but you're talking about "careful thinking" and that's not a half step from thought policing. You're trying to tell me what I mean. That's a thing I'm going to have to claim exclusive province over. Feel free to tell me what you understood, but not what I mean.

What I said was statement about how Claire was previously viewed by the outside world. Unless she's always been presenting as female, which her statements seem to indicate was not the case, there was a time when the world would have assigned her the value of "young man" and treated her accordingly, with respect to unconscious bias. As a guess, it wouldn't have the best of all possible bias sets, since she'd have been short and scrawny, like her brother. But she still would have been the unwitting benefactor of gobs of white, male privilege.

She is, for the practical purpose of this subject, now a woman. Whatever the circumstances, they are such that she can be confident most people in Northampton don't know her as anything else. Which strongly suggest that she's no longer getting those gobs of male privilege.

We don't know exactly when she made the decision to change. She hasn't said. So we don't know how long she may have lived in line with her identify before she began to transition, nor do we know any details of how that went down. It's actually not a subject I care to know about, unless it bears on the story. We do know that she must have spent a good chunk of her life being assigned the role of boy, young man, and possibly man, based on what she told us.

If there's an objection to be made on the basis of technical inaccuracy or potential hate speech, I'm always open to hear it. Please refrain from telling me what I mean, or presuming to characterize my intent.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 30 Oct 2014, 20:28
Comic!

Heh, at least he's honest about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 30 Oct 2014, 20:31
What people being reasonable and adult about relationships? Is this the same comic series?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: mustang6172 on 30 Oct 2014, 20:40
I'm walking on eggshells (whoa oh)
And don't it feel good
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Oct 2014, 20:41

What I said was statement about how Claire was previously viewed by the outside world. Unless she's always been presenting as female, which her statements seem to indicate was not the case, there was a time when the world would have assigned her the value of "young man" and treated her accordingly, with respect to unconscious bias.
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If there's an objection to be made on the basis of technical inaccuracy or potential hate speech, I'm always open to hear it. Please refrain from telling me what I mean, or presuming to characterize my intent.

Yes, that's what I thought you meant.

I've found technical accuracy, even to the point of pedantry, helps me understand better what's going on with trans* people. Words like "presentation" and "assignment" are wonderful for minimizing confusion. When I call young Claire a woman, it helps me focus on the fact that what matters is her involuntary basic identity.

Confession: there's a bit of selfishness in my reply. I hope you can forgive it. If a trans person had taken offense, then I would have had to put on the mod hat and break up an unnecessary fight, when I'd rather overanalyze the comic instead.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 30 Oct 2014, 20:47
"Kind of a thing now."

I guess it's a bit early to say they're dating or in a relationship, but c'mon, Marten, can't you be a bit more clear than that?  Although I guess "We're a couple" or "we're together now" would also imply a deeper commitment than what they have yet.  Goddamn English, how does it work?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 30 Oct 2014, 20:54
In regards to referring to Claire as male at some point, or formerly male. A politer and more accurate way of putting it was that she was perceived as male. That established how she was treated without invalidating either her lived experience or her identity. Which for most trans people sets in and they can verbalize it by the age of 4-5. Usually long before they are given the ability to express that identity. As one of the forum transgender folk, I wasn't offended by the statement. A little saddened at the all to common inaccurate phrasing of it. But I guessed at what the intention behind it was meant to be.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 30 Oct 2014, 21:39
"Kind of a thing now."

I guess it's a bit early to say they're dating or in a relationship, but c'mon, Marten, can't you be a bit more clear than that?  Although I guess "We're a couple" or "we're together now" would also imply a deeper commitment than what they have yet.  Goddamn English, how does it work?

(click to show/hide)

Hooray for XKCD, and yeah. I think he's going with that because they haven't really been on any dates/been coupley (except maybe some cuddles and kisses off screen right off the bat) so until then he's not using dating
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 30 Oct 2014, 21:45
In regards to referring to Claire as male at some point, or formerly male. A politer and more accurate way of putting it was that she was perceived as male. That established how she was treated without invalidating either her lived experience or her identity.

This.

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Which for most trans people sets in and they can verbalize it by the age of 4-5. Usually long before they are given the ability to express that identity.

I prefer to avoid universalizing narratives like this.

I presented androgynously as a preteen and did not have a clear sense of my female identity or trans status until I was 14. Before puberty, "gender" seemed like a purely superficial distinction like race. I'd certainly have preferred to have been a cis girl, but in practical terms it didn't seem to matter much that I wasn't perceived that way. After puberty, that dissonance became a lot less academic and more of a clear and present threat to my sense of self and ongoing source of personal misery.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 21:58
Confession: there's a bit of selfishness in my reply. I hope you can forgive it. If a trans person had taken offense, then I would have had to put on the mod hat and break up an unnecessary fight, when I'd rather overanalyze the comic instead.

Once you're a mod, the mod hat is on, whether you mean to wear it or not. I understand the tricky bits, but I'm not sure how anything is served to prevent potential offense by being preemptively offensive.

I don't think that was your intent, but then neither was your characterization of my post related to my intent. Is it presumption of guilt?

Not to beat the horse to death, but there's a simple and fundamental reason I object to the tone and justification of "Careful Thinking." Applied to your response, careful thinking could have avoided offending me. But is that reasonable?

I've mentioned before that I find trigger warnings distasteful. I think I used the context that it really would be reasonable to expect "Trigger warning: Macro shots of spiders." No one does that. Arachniphobes are fucked. Well, having someone phrase something such that they, intent or not, presume to tell me what I mean is a big fat trigger. A trigger for enough years of childhood mental and physical abuse that I don't remember much of my youth, and I find myself having to ask people, "did that happen? How the hell did that even start?"

There isn't a turn of phrase that hasn't been weaponized. There's no gesture that isn't painful for someone. But if we try to respect that, we have no choice but to stop communicating, entirely. I don't have a perfect world answer. All I have is a point.

In regards to referring to Claire as male at some point, or formerly male. A politer and more accurate way of putting it was that she was perceived as male. That established how she was treated without invalidating either her lived experience or her identity. Which for most trans people sets in and they can verbalize it by the age of 4-5. Usually long before they are given the ability to express that identity. As one of the forum transgender folk, I wasn't offended by the statement. A little saddened at the all to common inaccurate phrasing of it. But I guessed at what the intention behind it was meant to be.

The intent was to force the reader into image conflict. The purpose of that conflict was to underscore the unconscious bias people carry with respect to gender.

I'm sorry to have inflected sadness as well.

Here's the thing. Whether you divined my specific intent, you recognized what I was saying. Just as I recognized that you are discussing gender, despite the fact that you use the words "male or formerly male." Male isn't a gender term except at a remove of implicit assumption: If A is male, A must be a man or boy. Except, if you accept gender as construct, you know that A being male tells you nothing about whether A is a man or boy.

That's why I used the word "man," in addition to "shock value." The construct of gender comes on multiple levels, perception, and identity among them. Now, I could read your use of the word "male" as having specific intent to convey the specific meaning of that word. It would be technically true of Claire, on a genetic level, now. Or I can just go with what I know you mean.

But what if I found it offensive, even knowing your intent? I'd probably be in my rights to say something about it. But, circle back to the above, does "Careful thinking" apply? If so, what's the meter stick for careful look like? There's obvious stuff that fits "not careful" just like there's stuff that's obviously pornography. The longer I think about it, the more it seems to me that the only distinction between "Careful thinking" and "not obviously careless thinking" is same as that between art and "not obviously porn": I know it when I see it.

In a subjective world, that's fodder for arguments and nothing more.

I suppose one could use the "reasonable person" test. It's how most handle that particular conflict. To me, that's hypocrisy. It's using the tyranny of the majority to justify action taken in the name of defending people oppressed by the tyranny of the majority. As an oppressed person myself, I find that distasteful. Others' mileage may vary. I certainly see the potential for satisfaction in giving 'em a taste of their own medicine.

Claire is a woman. A "she." Is she a "she" in same sense that the U.S.S. Enterprise is a "she"? Am I a "he" in the same sense that the former Soviet aircraft carrier Kiev is a "he"? Generally, I take the idea of gender as construct to the logical extension, so my answer is yes. But I suspect a lot of people never considered the question and are rather conflicted, at the least. If they aren't outright rejecting the idea. That's the essentialism of tying sex to gender. That was what I intended to exploit by choosing the word "man" over "presented as" or "perceived by others to be."

As I said, I'm open to criticism about that choice. I'm just upset by the characterization of said choice as careless and the implication that it meant to disparage.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 30 Oct 2014, 22:29
Is it presumption of guilt?

Certainly not! You're clearly one of the good guys here.

Just curious, would "precise thinking" have gotten my meaning across with less baggage than "careful thinking"? Or should I have tried a different angle from the beginning?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 30 Oct 2014, 22:45
Is it presumption of guilt?

Certainly not! You're clearly one of the good guys here.

Just curious, would "precise thinking" have gotten my meaning across with less baggage than "careful thinking"? Or should I have tried a different angle from the beginning?

I don't know. I could only suggest what it would occur to me as an optimal solution in the after-the-fact. I have the advantage of knowing that what you did say is very, super triggering to me. I don't know how useful that is, in any sense.

As it stands. I could have left all that out and stood only on the basic explanation. But I thought, other people get triggered and state their case. Why can't I? Yes, it was upsetting, but I know that the upset stems from something done to me by someone else. Coulda, shoulda, woulda are terrible words. I use them to flay myself all the time. But, being honest and as objective as humanly possible, they just don't apply here. You woulda, if you'd known, coulda if any number of small events had been different through out the day, and shoulda what? I can't think of anything.

Maybe I've developed a new form of Zen, but I don't need to assign blame for my upset. It's a thing that happened because things happened years ago and far away. I really don't have anything more than my point(s). I hope they can help, but I don't know how much of it (from a moderation perspective) applies to anyone but me.

I appreciate you responding without rancor. I know how tough mod jobs can be. If I didn't have that deep thought about gender essentialism trying to get out I'd have kept it to PM.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 30 Oct 2014, 23:53
It's an indication of how close friends Marten and Faye are that the two of them can basically joke about such a touchy subject so close to the event. I don't think that Marten meant that he wouldn't have told Faye about Claire but would have done so in a different way, focussing instead more on reassuring Faye.

BTW - My head-canon is that Claire badgered Marten into telling his friends about her personally rather than let Tai's email account take the strain. I suspect that he was planning to do so anyway but Claire beat him to mentioning it and Marten wanted her to have the victory of contributing to his decision.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 31 Oct 2014, 00:01
For God's sake let's not have not this discussion of trans identity AGAIN.  We've been through it at enormous length at least three times already. There's a thread in DISCUSS  (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28457.0/topicseen.html)where all this is thrashed out.

Also rule 1 below applies in spades, doubled and redoubled.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 31 Oct 2014, 00:16
For God's sake let's not have not this discussion of trans identity AGAIN.  We've been through it at enormous length at least three times already. There's a thread in DISCUSS  (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28457.0/topicseen.html)where all this is thrashed out.

Also rule 1 below applies in spades, doubled and redoubled.

Well. That's terribly meta.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 31 Oct 2014, 01:11
I have the advantage of knowing that what you did say is very, super triggering to me. I don't know how useful that is, in any sense.

It means we now know more about you.  But the thing is that the mods here are super-aware of some things that are triggering to a number of different groups of people who are known to be present on the forum, and try to pre-empt the upset they can cause.  When balancing different people's likelihood of being offended, we may try to make a judgement of who's likely to have more offence to deal with in their lives, based on what they have let us know about them.  We can't, of course, know the answer in individual cases until we are told - but in any case, working out a path through life to cause minimum offence is a good way to go, and within this forum we try to enforce it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 31 Oct 2014, 06:01
Which for most trans people sets in and they can verbalize it by the age of 4-5. Usually long before they are given the ability to express that identity.

I prefer to avoid universalizing narratives like this.

I presented androgynously as a preteen and did not have a clear sense of my female identity or trans status until I was 14. Before puberty, "gender" seemed like a purely superficial distinction like race. I'd certainly have preferred to have been a cis girl, but in practical terms it didn't seem to matter much that I wasn't perceived that way. After puberty, that dissonance became a lot less academic and more of a clear and present threat to my sense of self and ongoing source of personal misery.

I prefer to avoid it generalizing as well. That is why I chose the word 'most' in there. My own experience is atypical because I didn't even know being transgender was a thing that existed until I was about 22. But I knew something was wrong by the time I was 3 or 4. I just didn't have the wordage to verbalize it beyond wishing I was a girl. I'm just going by what gender experts say, that people's genders tend to be set and expressible by that age.

Here's the thing. Whether you divined my specific intent, you recognized what I was saying. Just as I recognized that you are discussing gender, despite the fact that you use the words "male or formerly male." Male isn't a gender term except at a remove of implicit assumption: If A is male, A must be a man or boy. Except, if you accept gender as construct, you know that A being male tells you nothing about whether A is a man or boy.

Man/Woman and Male/Female are used as descriptive terms for both physical sex and gender though. All to often interchangeably. Which is why I find terms like perceived X or assigned X at birth to be more accurate and less troubling. Because it makes clear the distinction. As I said, I understood your meaning and what you were saying. But I have a lot of experience parsing these conversations that many people don't have, and could easily fall into the all to common expectation that being transgender is some switch you flip part way through your life, instead of a life-long journey of self discovery, doubt and discrimination.

For God's sake let's not have not this discussion of trans identity AGAIN.  We've been through it at enormous length at least three times already. There's a thread in DISCUSS  (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,28457.0/topicseen.html)where all this is thrashed out.

Also rule 1 below applies in spades, doubled and redoubled.

Believe me, I wish we didn't have to keep having this conversation. If you think it is tiresome, imagine how it is for us who have to have it or deal with it on a daily basis. It's absolutely exhausting. But it's a fight we can't put down, since we're fighting to not have a basic core element of our lives erased.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 31 Oct 2014, 07:02

If you think it is tiresome, imagine how it is for us who have to have it or deal with it on a daily basis. It's absolutely exhausting. But it's a fight we can't put down, since we're fighting to not have a basic core element of our lives erased.

Why? You don't have to make a _political_ argument the core of your life. It can be as simple as, I'm a human being and you will treat me with the base level of decency that everyone deserves because of that, the personal aspects of my life and how I choose to lead it don't require justification, I'm not hurting anyone so buzz off. The core would then be in the living.

When you add justifications, especially for the personal, that invites a counter argument. 'Because x' puts x up for debate and if x is debunked you're put in a very bad position.

Not to mention the content of those justifications put you at odds with people who should be your natural allies. People like me who are ready to say screw the patriarchy and its (biological) sex based social rules but find arguments about brain sex and of statements of identity instantly negating a physical and social history (and possibly a current physical reality) distasteful.

I don't care what you identify as in your head. *holds out a hand* I'll take you as you are right now, what you choose to show the world is fine and good and wonderful and doesn't need to be justified to anyone.

And if it ever changes, it'll be just as fine and good and wonderful.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 31 Oct 2014, 10:39
So, then, speaking about the comic:

What are some of the most common ways that spending early life assigned male could have affected Claire's mindset about going into a het dating relationship?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 31 Oct 2014, 10:46
What are some of the most common ways that spending early life assigned male could have affected Claire's mindset about going into a het dating relationship?

An awful lot depends on when she started self-identifying as female. Additionally, the primary male-model in her early life would normally be her father, who abandoned the family and about whom she has such negative feelings it's a trigger. So, it's questionable if there would have been a male courting behaviour role model for her that she is emotionally able to copy. Really, an awful lot depends on what her primary romantic role-model is and that is almost certainly a woman.

It wouldn't surprise me if, being something of a bibliophile, if she has read a lot of romance novels (especially classical ones) and she's imprinted a bit on the female protagonists.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 31 Oct 2014, 10:52
A funny thing is though is that Claire hasn't been shown as being a bibliophile. She wants to be a librarian, so it makes sense that she would enjoy reading and books. And we've seen other characters wandering around with their noses in books, but not Claire. She seems more interested in librarian as teacher rather than librarian as book lover. In fact, she kind of called out Gabby on that when that was the reason she took up the internship. Because Gabby just liked books.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 31 Oct 2014, 10:58
Just a thought on strip 2825, panel 2. Faye's first lines are to laugh and she looks very surprised.

What makes this odd is that, in Strip 2810 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2810), Faye is telling Dora that she thinks Marten and Claire engaged in 'sexy shenanigans'. So, why the "you're kidding, right?" laugh and the look of surprise?

This is only a guess but I'm thinking that Faye was expecting a one-off drunken fumble followed by a Walk of Shame and weeks of mutual awkwardness and embarrassment. She wasn't expecting Marten to announce that he and Claire are in a relationship. Oh, she guessed that Claire had a crush on Marten but not that it was possibly mutual!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 31 Oct 2014, 11:06
I sort of wonder about Faye's response too, maybe it is taht. I'd like to think she's more 'wow you avoided telling me this?'
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 31 Oct 2014, 11:43
I took her reaction more as "I'm happy for you to the extent I can be happy about anything romantic, which isn't very at the moment."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 31 Oct 2014, 11:53
Marten knows Faye so well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 31 Oct 2014, 12:12
Faye probably just forgot. I mean, she did just have a relationship crisis, and when she checked on the thing, Marten blocked with pancakes. It was, apparently, super effective.

Or she didn't believe Marten when he said one night stands weren't his speed. She's been willing to assume Marten might have wandering hands, despite him being, we'll, Marten. It wouldn't be out of character for her.

I am betting on forgot. Relationship melt down plus Marten brush off is a reasonable explanation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 31 Oct 2014, 13:37
Faye probably just forgot. I mean, she did just have a relationship crisis, and when she checked on the thing, Marten blocked with pancakes. It was, apparently, super effective.

I think we already made a comment on the connotations pancakes have, so maybe Faye's mind kinda went that way without us noticing.

Although as you said, it's more plausible that she just forgot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 31 Oct 2014, 15:53
I think we already made a comment on the connotations pancakes have, so maybe Faye's mind kinda went that way without us noticing.

But Faye probably wouldn't realize that pancakes = sexy times unless Dale told her everything.  She probably shut him up long before he got to enlighten her on the various uses of syrup.

Off-topic, and let me know if this has been answered elsewhere already, but can anyone create a poll for the WCDT?  I know I'm new here, but I came up with one earlier today I'd like to do, if that's cool. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HauntingPoem on 31 Oct 2014, 17:03
Generally it seems to be the person that creates the WCDT that makes the Poll. While this is often done by the same "core" group of regulars, most of whom are long time members or moderators, that is not always the case.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 31 Oct 2014, 19:51
Hey, if you wanna do it, go for it. We usually start the WCDT at about noon-ish EST on the Sunday of the week.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 31 Oct 2014, 20:43
Awesome, thanks!  I shall try to prove myself worthy of the task.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HiFranc on 01 Nov 2014, 01:08
Faye probably just forgot. I mean, she did just have a relationship crisis, and when she checked on the thing, Marten blocked with pancakes. It was, apparently, super effective.

I think you're right.  I suspect that Faye took pancakes to mean that he put his foot in it so turned to pancakes for consolation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 01 Nov 2014, 10:07
I literally don't have a clue where we'll be going next week. There are several options but Jeph's new 'minimise blah' policy means that we might not see as much of key events as we might expect. The optoins that occur to me are:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 01 Nov 2014, 11:33
5. Wait until Monday and see what Jeph does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 01 Nov 2014, 11:38
6. Victorian hijinks at the Horrible Revelation.

(I'm going to say it until it happens.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 12:50
May works the red eye shift.

She approached Momo between "You're cute when you're reasonable," and "I need pancakes before I can process this."

Faye didn't go into work until 5pm the next evening.

Baring a continuity glitch, May probably wasn't in the shower for half a day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 01 Nov 2014, 13:05
Baring a continuity glitch, May probably wasn't in the shower for half a day.

Or she was. And Momo was there too. They... worked past their differences.

Tai: "I ship that too."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 01 Nov 2014, 13:14
Baring a continuity glitch, May probably wasn't in the shower for half a day.

But she may have spent the day hanging out with Momo rather than go home and deal with Dale and Marigold doing the horizontal tango and maybe ending up with a condom wrapper on her face again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 13:23
May may. May may not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 01 Nov 2014, 13:39
May may. May may not.

Yeah, May may but Wil will.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 01 Nov 2014, 14:36
5. Wait until Monday and see what Jeph does.

That's my default option.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 01 Nov 2014, 14:42
May may. May may not.

Yeah, May may but Wil will.
That's just it, will Wil?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 01 Nov 2014, 15:05
If Wil wills.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 01 Nov 2014, 15:13
As long as this will not end in the reading of Wil's will.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 15:26
May may, May may, may Mae?
Will Wil will Will whil (http://whil.com/)?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 01 Nov 2014, 15:32
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 01 Nov 2014, 15:51
Wildebeest.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 15:51
Buffalo buffalo are jerks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 01 Nov 2014, 16:09
But their wings.... mmmm, tasty.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 01 Nov 2014, 17:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6CDFn2i3I
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 18:22
Good! GOOD! Exactly what I was waiting for!

Soon you journey towards the dark side will be complete.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 01 Nov 2014, 18:35
Is this Buffalo (http://boatnerd.com/news/newpictures02/BuffaloBow8-6-02WPS.jpg) allowed? Because it involves shipping.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 01 Nov 2014, 18:39
Good! GOOD! Exactly what I was waiting for!

Soon you journey towards the dark side will be complete.

*Hands you a Cookie*
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 18:41
I don't accept cookies. They use them to track people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 01 Nov 2014, 18:41
Not even Chocolate Chip ones?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 01 Nov 2014, 18:47
Chocolate chip is how they get you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 01 Nov 2014, 19:00
Then they change it for raisins. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-HYY-HYYYY? WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Nov 2014, 19:04
Will Dale become like a big brother to May?

Will he call her "mei mei May"?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 01 Nov 2014, 19:07
I read your alliterative puns and my mind wanders directly into montage parodies. I should spend less time on the internet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 01 Nov 2014, 20:09
We beat Rutgers today.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 01 Nov 2014, 20:47
Hauer you done that?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 02 Nov 2014, 05:41
American-rules football.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 02 Nov 2014, 06:35
Hauer you done that?

American-rules football.


That whole... joke...  will be lost to jwhouk, like tears in rain.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Netrunner on 02 Nov 2014, 09:36
Then they change it for raisins. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-HYY-HYYYY? WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE?

I see your Tiny Tina quote and approve.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 02 Nov 2014, 10:04
Hauer you done that?

American-rules football.


That whole... joke...  will be lost to jwhouk, like tears in rain.

Time to die?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 02 Nov 2014, 10:15
Hauer you done that?

American-rules football.


That whole... joke...  will be lost to jwhouk, like tears in rain.

Time to die?
You are all fantastic people.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 02 Nov 2014, 11:24
I feel like I should fix that nesting error, but it seems better tissue way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 02 Nov 2014, 12:18
Yeah. I could fix it, but it's so beautiful as it is. I shouldn't touch it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 02 Nov 2014, 12:53
Then they change it for raisins. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY-HYY-HYYYY? WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE?

I see your Tiny Tina quote and approve.

I see you could pinpoint it and approve as well. Point still stands, I hate raisins with a passion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 02 Nov 2014, 14:13
Hauer you done that?

American-rules football.


That whole... joke...  will be lost to jwhouk, like tears in rain.

Time to die?
You are all fantastic people.

I guess that that's finished then.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 02 Nov 2014, 18:42
I'm being toyed with, and I don't know why.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 02 Nov 2014, 18:47
I'm being toyed with, and I don't know why.  :psyduck:

Monologue preformed by Rutger Hauer

Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 02 Nov 2014, 20:43
I'm being toyed with, and I don't know why.  :psyduck:

Monologue preformed by Rutger Hauer

( snip Bladerunner)
Or for the computer geek analogue:

"... I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab.
I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate.
All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week.
Time to die...". -- Peter Gutmann in the scary.devil.monastery
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 05 Nov 2014, 12:58

Or for the computer geek analogue:

[/quote]

/clap clap clap

I enjoyed that a bit more than I should...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2821-2825 (27 - 31 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 28 Aug 2015, 02:29
Man... a whole bunch of wet towels in here. It was a sweet little smooch! Haven't you people ever been in love? Sheesh!

No.