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Title: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Nov 2014, 19:36
Early thread just for youuuuu!  Last week's discussion got a bit frazzled after our lightning round of shocking puns, so here's a fresh jolt to start the new week!

Edit: Apologies to the mods if this is too too early.  DSL suggested (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30277.msg1282592.html#msg1282592) starting a new thread and I just went with it without thinking.  Feel free to delete if you think proper.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Nov 2014, 19:38
Alternate Poll:

D'awwwww?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 07 Nov 2014, 20:16
Why is that I hear that second poll to the famous five notes from CE3K?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 07 Nov 2014, 20:16
Gabby was eaten by a brontosaur.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Nov 2014, 20:20
Gabby was eaten by a brontosaur.

I still say bibliodons. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1210)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 07 Nov 2014, 20:24
Gabby was eaten by a brontosaur.
I still say bibliodons. (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1210)
I will tolerate that headcanon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 07 Nov 2014, 20:29
No, it was the tame Allosaurus that Jeph keeps in his basement.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 07 Nov 2014, 20:43
Early thread just for youuuuu!  Last week's discussion got a bit frazzled after our lightning round of shocking puns, so here's a fresh jolt to start the new week!

Edit: Apologies to the mods if this is too too early.  DSL suggested (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30277.msg1282592.html#msg1282592) starting a new thread and I just went with it without thinking.  Feel free to delete if you think proper.

Actually, my initial suggestion was for a split-off thread for the Great Exegesis War, but whatever.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Nov 2014, 20:47
Actually, my initial suggestion was for a split-off thread for the Great Exegesis War, but whatever.

Gotcha.  Guess I just got ahead of myself.

Edit: Sorry, that sounded self-pitying.  Didn't mean it!  Just wanted to do a poll, is all.  My sense of time is screwed up this weekend anyway.  I usually work Saturdays and take Sundays off (plus a weekday--grocery store hours, bleh), but I'm using up a vacation day tomorrow, so it feels like a Saturday night right now, which made a new thread seem a bit more appropriate?  Yeah, that sounds like a good excuse. /shifty eyes.

So...next week?  Predictions?  All I can say is, today's strip still gives me the warm & fuzzies.  If only Tai could see those two...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 07 Nov 2014, 21:01
No worries. It's modifie approved, so it's all good by me.

I'm only here for the punpuns anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 07 Nov 2014, 22:35
Quote
Clinton, whose response to the news is anything but evenhanded

Good, gooooood.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 07 Nov 2014, 22:39
My prediction is a bit of development on Marbear's roomate situation. After Claire's and Marten's first date of course.
then a bit of Angus, tho since we haven't seen anything about Dora we might change to that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Undrneath on 07 Nov 2014, 22:43
So if Claire has never been on a date does that mean she has never.....?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 07 Nov 2014, 22:45
So if Claire has never been on a date does that mean she has never.....?

Yes.

she has never dressed up for a first date. Hence her asking Marten about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 07 Nov 2014, 23:20
Seriously? I think that the answer to the poll is Dr Ellicott-Chatham. After all, he's only tangentially connected; he'll only find out when his daughter asks him if he is working on the technology!

[Edit]
So, anyone else think that we are in a good place for a time skip in the strip? IMO, there are no loose ends that can't be effectively dealt with in retrospect. Faye and Angus is a possible exception. However, if Jeph wants to avoid excess drama and angst, he could just have Faye snuggling with a concerned Marten, who's worried about how she's holding up or her talking to a genuinely curious Tai who wants to know if IM sex is good enough.

I think that Jeph could easily skip forward a month without losing anything in story-telling terms.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Emperor Norton on 07 Nov 2014, 23:29
Seriously? I think that the answer to the poll is Dr Ellicott-Chatham. After all, he's only tangentially connected; he'll only find out when his daughter asks him if he is working on the technology!

I disagree. Obviously he already knows since he runs the simulation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Nov 2014, 23:32
Seriously? I think that the answer to the poll is Dr Ellicott-Chatham. After all, he's only tangentially connected; he'll only find out when his daughter asks him if he is working on the technology!

You're assuming she hasn't asked already. "Hey, dad?  I have two more friends who might want to have some really cute babies at some point.  How's the technology coming along?"

And before you ask how Hanners would know about Claire's status, you're assuming she hasn't acquired a DNA sample already.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 07 Nov 2014, 23:54
Claire and Hanners have barely interacted at this point, even though it seems like their personalities would be a good fit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 07 Nov 2014, 23:56
Bad time for a time skip. The early stages of Claire's first relationship are going to have bumps in the road that will be funny and will help describe and develop character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 08 Nov 2014, 00:41
Bad time for a time skip. The early stages of Claire's first relationship are going to have bumps in the road that will be funny and will help describe and develop character.

I have to disagree there. I think that we've learned all we can about Claire's character in a 'first date' scenario. We'll learn more when she's more comfortable around Marten and less afraid of ruining things by 'saying the wrong thing'. There is a limit to what we can learn from Claire constantly walking on eggshells and Marten having to reassure her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 08 Nov 2014, 03:44
Who's "We"?
Character development is a strength of QC. And since Jeph is the one doing the strip, maybe let him decide how to develop a character and show how that development happens? For the effort some forumoids put into telling how they want the strip to go forward, they might as well script their own strip. No shortage of illustrators out there who wouldn't mind having someone else call the shots.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 08 Nov 2014, 06:24
Why is that I hear that second poll to the famous five notes from CE3K?

'cause you're old enough to have it embedded in your brain, like me?  :-D

(http://i.imgur.com/Pw3Fxzl.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Nov 2014, 10:23
Bad time for a time skip. The early stages of Claire's first relationship are going to have bumps in the road that will be funny and will help describe and develop character.

I have to disagree there. I think that we've learned all we can about Claire's character in a 'first date' scenario. We'll learn more when she's more comfortable around Marten and less afraid of ruining things by 'saying the wrong thing'. There is a limit to what we can learn from Claire constantly walking on eggshells and Marten having to reassure her.
There is, however, ample room for humor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 11:02
I think that we've learned all we can about Claire's character in a 'first date' scenario. We'll learn more when she's more comfortable around Marten and less afraid of ruining things by 'saying the wrong thing'. There is a limit to what we can learn from Claire constantly walking on eggshells and Marten having to reassure her.
There is, however, ample room for humor.

Humor, d'awww, and squee.

I agree that a time-skip may be in order at some point (as April's timeline reminds us, it's been summer FOREVER), but I think another week or two need to pass in-comic before that happens.  I still want to see all the adorable and awkward moments from the early stages of Claire and Marten's relationship, but I also want to see what Angus is up to, whether or not he and Faye try to see each other before he leaves.  Then Faye needs to face being single again, there's still potential fallout from the Svenectomy, Veronica needs an opportunity or two to embarrass her son, etc.  Once those things have wrapped up a bit, we close on Sleeping Montage #3 (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30277.msg1282564.html#msg1282564), several months go by, and Jeph opens on...Veronica and Jim's wedding?!

Nah, that would be too weird.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 08 Nov 2014, 12:00
Once those things have wrapped up a bit, we close on Sleeping Montage #3 (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30277.msg1282564.html#msg1282564), several months go by, and Jeph opens on...Veronica and Jim's wedding?!

Nah, that would be too weird.

Things that I'd love to see:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 12:30
4. Dora the flower-girl!
5. Fuck yeah three dads!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Nov 2014, 12:33
If Veronica and Jim get hitched Martenfriend will have the same number of dads as I did Mothers In Law.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 12:36
If Veronica and Jim get hitched Martenfriend will have the same number of dads as I did Mothers In Law.

Sounds like Marten's gonna get the better deal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 08 Nov 2014, 12:55
4. Dora the flower-girl!

That sounds risky. What if it ends up being one of her goth days?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Nov 2014, 12:59
4. Dora the flower-girl!

That sounds risky. What if it ends up being one of her goth days?
"Here's your flower. May it rot and become as black as your soul."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 08 Nov 2014, 13:04
Since jeph's at a con Monday might well be a yelling bird strip. I'd like some more clairten next week for the date (squee) but then back to the other characters, there's some storylines I want to see developed more once I've been assured that the ship is going steady out of port.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: davedig on 08 Nov 2014, 13:06
I have to say ever since the Night of the Skritch Skratch I've felt really inspired. I've suddenly had a desire to play things a little less safe and just go for what I want. Sometime soon I want to ask a friend of mine out to see what happens. Yes I'm well aware life isn't a movie where that always works out but after so many years of just playing safe and being quiet about everything. I want to be a little more pro-active in what I feel.

So cue a post some time later when I swear off QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 08 Nov 2014, 13:09
Why is that I hear that second poll to the famous five notes from CE3K?
I can't make that compute. The squeee doesn't go with that long fifth note. English being a second language to me it is possible that I'm misqueeeing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 08 Nov 2014, 13:37
If Veronica and Jim get hitched Martenfriend will have the same number of dads as I did Mothers In Law.

Sounds like Marten's gonna get the better deal.

You haven't met my ex-mothers in law. One of them raised and kept horses after a world traveling career that involved work for the Houston Rocket Lab and generally being one of the coolest people I ever met. When we (the ex-wife and I) spent the night, she'd entrust me with her trusty Smith and Wesson revolver in .357 Mag "You're a Marine and your eyes will be a bit better then mine in the dark, I'm expecting you to at least wound them before I get at them with the baseball bat." One of the few good memories from my married life actually.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Nov 2014, 13:39
Why is that I hear that second poll to the famous five notes from CE3K?
I can't make that compute. The squeee doesn't go with that long fifth note. English being a second language to me it is possible that I'm misqueeeing.
This assumption is usually unspoken, but the "eeeee" of a squee can be held indefinitely... or at least as long as you still have the breath to hold the note.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 14:33
4. Dora the flower-girl!

That sounds risky. What if it ends up being one of her goth days?

Do you really think Veronica would object?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Nov 2014, 14:40
Claire and Hanners have barely interacted at this point, even though it seems like their personalities would be a good fit.

Like fire and pure oxygen.

Their anxiety attacks would feed off each other (I know Claire's only had one, but that's more than enough to know that Hanners would cause her to have more)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Nov 2014, 15:04
Oh, I don't know... I think their anxieties would dovetail rather then collide.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 15:11
Claire and Hanners have barely interacted at this point, even though it seems like their personalities would be a good fit.

Like fire and pure oxygen.

Their anxiety attacks would feed off each other (I know Claire's only had one, but that's more than enough to know that Hanners would cause her to have more)

Nah, I don't think so.  Sure, Hannelore nearly turned the hose on Claire (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2278) early on, but they later hung out with Marten (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2453) and discussed library anxieties. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2794)  Granted, that's not much, but they seem to get along well.  With Claire now dating Marten and probably spending more time at his place, that should give her and Hanners more time to interact.  As long as Claire doesn't develop an obsession with little hats (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2188), everything should be fine.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Nov 2014, 15:17
When everything's ok, they'll get along great, but we haven't seen how they'll react when thing aren't so good.

I see Hannelore having an attack over... anything, and Claire being the empathetic type would have one in response, then Hanners would see that and hers would escalate because she feels bad, which causes Claire's to worsen, and so on
and so on
and so on
and so on
and so on
until one (or both) passes out from exhaustion.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 15:20
That sounds...both hilarious and terrifying.  And also awful.  Yes, awful.  I hope it doesn't happen!

//shifty eyes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Nov 2014, 15:44
When everything's ok, they'll get along great, but we haven't seen how they'll react when thing aren't so good.

I see Hannelore having an attack over... anything, and Claire being the empathetic type would have one in responce, then Hanners would see that and hers would escalate because she feels bad, which causes Claire's to worsen, and so on
and so on
and so on
and so on
and so on
until one (or both) passes out from exhaustion.

I don't see it. Claire and Hanners are very different when it comes to anxiety management. Claire attacks her problems. Hanners hides from hers.

That's not a value judgment.  I think they would be good for each other. Claire could learn that all anxiety doesn't demand immediate solutions, and Hanners could use a role model in cutting through the mess and taking action (without exploding in the process).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 08 Nov 2014, 18:27
I don't think it needs a time skip per say  like 4-6 months like 1310 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1310) to 1311 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1311), as we would miss out on all the squee after all, but just let some days go by  every few panels or something
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 08 Nov 2014, 18:54
Hanners hides from her (problem)s.
Huhwhat? Hanners has:
-- tried a "really strong" medication to overcome her social anxiety, resulting in us meeting her in the first place (really, how can you imagine the Hanners we all know and cautiously love today reacting to a strange man urinating in the sink in front of her int the wrong bathroom?);
-- insinuated herself gradually into a new social circle;
-- stood up to the Mother Creature from Hell:
-- developed and strengthened her personality by showing empathy to others (I've talked before about how her one-time role was as the catalyst to bring out the best tendencies in the other characters);
-- as part of the above, befriended Marigold and coaxed her part of the way out of a self-imposed internal exile;
-- socialized: attended parties, invited friends to a party in her father's honor, affirmed her increased -- agency? I'm not sure how to use these words -- in her conversation with Station ...
-- and on and on and on. Whatever Hanners is doing about her problems, "hiding from" doesn't describe it.

Claire's a pretty cool kid too.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 08 Nov 2014, 19:04
I don't think it needs a time skip per say  like 4-6 months like 1310 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1310) to 1311 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1311), as we would miss out on all the squee after all, but just let some days go by  every few panels or something

I wouldn't be opposed to that. It is a slice of life comic but at the same time I don't see how it could hurt. Relationship montage ahoy!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Nov 2014, 19:10

[Edit]
So, anyone else think that we are in a good place for a time skip in the strip?

You can't fool me. You're just trying to hasten the robot apocalypse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 08 Nov 2014, 20:23
[Edit]
So, anyone else think that we are in a good place for a time skip in the strip? IMO, there are no loose ends that can't be effectively dealt with in retrospect. Faye and Angus is a possible exception. However, if Jeph wants to avoid excess drama and angst, he could just have Faye snuggling with a concerned Marten, who's worried about how she's holding up or her talking to a genuinely curious Tai who wants to know if IM sex is good enough.

I want Faye to decide to move to New York to be with Angus, then a ten-month timeskip that ends just seconds before she knocks on Marten and Amir's door to tell Marty she left Angus and she's back in town indefinitely. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Nov 2014, 20:53
"You burned down the whole city?"
"Not exactly. There was one wall still standing."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Nov 2014, 20:57
I don't think it needs a time skip per say  like 4-6 months like 1310 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1310) to 1311 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1311), as we would miss out on all the squee after all, but just let some days go by  every few panels or something

Dora was cute with that hair. I miss that hair.
Whatever Hanners is doing about her problems, "hiding from" doesn't describe it.

The only item in that list Hannelore confronted in the moment was her mother.

Claire, on the other hand, has only run from one moment, and only been seen to plan for facing one issue. Claire seems to be unwilling to allow her stressors to lie, while Hanners generally prefers to approach hers only after careful planning.

That's in keeping with their different personalities, and the fact that Claire's anxiety isn't crippling, while Hannelore's is. Like I said, they can learn from each other.

Probably not a lot, as their fundamental issues are different. (Claire has situational anxiety. Hanners is best described by reading the DSM IV.)  But Claire could use an example of not tackling even issue as soon as it is sighted, and Hanners could benefit from seeing that acting in the moment is okay. (Most of the cases where Hanners has jumped on a stressor right away have seen her overreact.)

Neither approach is the better choice. Claire's way works for Claire. Hanners's way works for Hanners. But having an example of another way probably won't hurt.

Anyway, the don't react to the same things, so I don't see how they could reinforce negative patterns in each other.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: KOK on 08 Nov 2014, 23:06

So, anyone else think that we are in a good place for a time skip in the strip? IMO, there are no loose ends that can't be effectively dealt with in retrospect. Faye and Angus is a possible exception. However, if Jeph wants to avoid excess drama and angst, he could just have Faye snuggling with a concerned Marten, who's worried about how she's holding up or her talking to a genuinely curious Tai who wants to know if IM sex is good enough.

I think that Jeph could easily skip forward a month without losing anything in story-telling terms.

So much is happening right now. Sven/Dora, Faye/Angus, Marigold's roommate, May and Momo, and of course Claire's first boyfriend. It does not seem like a good time for a time skip to me.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 08 Nov 2014, 23:10
So, anyone else think that we are in a good place for a time skip in the strip?

I want my TARDIS keys back young man.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 08 Nov 2014, 23:28
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how Jeph sources guest strips? I've never seen requests on Twitter or Tumblr.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Nov 2014, 23:38
If you have to ask, you're already unworthy of the privilege.  The Holy and Benevolent Order of Webcartoonists does not reveal its secrets to, nor confer its favors on, outsiders.

(Not bitter AT ALL.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 09 Nov 2014, 00:00
Why is that I hear that second poll to the famous five notes from CE3K?
I can't make that compute. The squeee doesn't go with that long fifth note. English being a second language to me it is possible that I'm misqueeeing.
This assumption is usually unspoken, but the "eeeee" of a squee can be held indefinitely... or at least as long as you still have the breath to hold the note.
I have seen that here  :-D :-D I was thinking more about the pitch. That fifth note is, IIRC, not the highest of the sequence. But I somehow thought that the perpetual squeeeeee is, if not rising in pitch (what telcomm engineers call a "chirp"), at least very high to begin with  :-) Sorry about not making that clear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 09 Nov 2014, 01:48
Oh. Well, I suppose you could just say "squee" without actually squeeing. Sort of like if you were mocking the act for humor.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2014, 04:51
Whatever Hanners is doing about her problems, "hiding from" doesn't describe it.

The only item in that list Hannelore confronted in the moment was her mother.
Not immediately (over)reacting to a situation is not the same as hiding from it. I  maintain my position that Hannelore deals with her shit, and effectively, but it's not always discernible to someone looking for an immediate confrontation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: sitnspin on 09 Nov 2014, 05:15
Whatever Hanners is doing about her problems, "hiding from" doesn't describe it.

The only item in that list Hannelore confronted in the moment was her mother.
Not immediately (over)reacting to a situation is not the same as hiding from it. I  maintain my position that Hannelore deals with her shit, and effectively, but it's not always discernible to someone looking for an immediate confrontation.

As someone living with mental illness, I can assure you that it is more often than not completely undetectable when we are "dealing with it". Leaving the situation to regroup is not hiding from the problem, it is a survival tactic and an important self-care technique. There are many methods we use to mitigate our conditions, direct confrontation is a minor one. Implying that simeone is not dealing with their triggers because they are not employing that one easily noticeable method is, quite frankly, rather insulting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Nov 2014, 06:04
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how Jeph sources guest strips? I've never seen requests on Twitter or Tumblr.

He has friends. FRIENDS. They throw guest strips at him.

Sometimes, they're actually good. And other times, they have quantifiable concerns (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2316).

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Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2014, 06:32
I wonder if Hanners has read all ... the ... posts ... recently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 09 Nov 2014, 07:38
Whatever Hanners is doing about her problems, "hiding from" doesn't describe it.

The only item in that list Hannelore confronted in the moment was her mother.
Not immediately (over)reacting to a situation is not the same as hiding from it. I  maintain my position that Hannelore deals with her shit, and effectively, but it's not always susceptible to someone looking for an immediate confrontation.

I didn't say she didn't deal with it. You're the one making a strict value judgment on the word "hide." I think I've made it plain exactly what I meant, covering the particulars in detail. I'm not going to keep typing past you over a semantic dispute.

There are many methods we use to mitigate our conditions, direct confrontation is a minor one. Implying that simeone is not dealing with their triggers because they are not employing that one easily noticeable method is, quite frankly, rather insulting.

Normally, I'd respond in an aggressively conciliatory manner. But as this perceived insult is based on reading one word out of context, and ignoring everything else I wrote, I'm going to be insulted in turn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2014, 08:21
How did you manage to change "discernible" to "susceptible" while using the quote function?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 09 Nov 2014, 08:23
Whatever Hanners is doing about her problems, "hiding from" doesn't describe it.

The only item in that list Hannelore confronted in the moment was her mother.
Not immediately (over)reacting to a situation is not the same as hiding from it. I  maintain my position that Hannelore deals with her shit, and effectively, but it's not always discernible to someone looking for an immediate confrontation.

As someone living with mental illness, I can assure you that it is more often than not completely undetectable when we are "dealing with it". Leaving the situation to regroup is not hiding from the problem, it is a survival tactic and an important self-care technique. There are many methods we use to mitigate our conditions, direct confrontation is a minor one. Implying that simeone is not dealing with their triggers because they are not employing that one easily noticeable method is, quite frankly, rather insulting.

Pretty much. For me at least 'dealing with it' means you are seeing me in person, acting perfectly normal (for me anyway... I'm always a bit weird). Dealing with issues, anxieties and triggers is a daily stroll through the minefield... On days I'm not dealing with things so well, I retreat to a place of safety and regroup. People just don't see me on bad days.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2014, 10:56
Reading elsewhere reminded me that some folks view the phrase "deal(ing) with it" as dismissive. My apologies. I did not intend it to be such.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 12:49
Looking at the poll results (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30289.50/viewresults.html) (is there a way to post them here? Hello, I'm new), I see Steve isn't a popular choice.  But, surely he can shoulder the burden of being the last to know?  Steve...shoulder...


(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8665/15565341418_527e1964ee_m.jpg) (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2367)


...I should've just written a cereal joke...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 09 Nov 2014, 13:00
Got the reference, just chose the technology that is much needed =^.^=
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 09 Nov 2014, 13:30
Ah, but we all know that - for comedic reasons - Clinton will be the last to know. His head may explode at the revelation, and his hand might independently seek out a certain indie-boy throat.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 13:48
If that happens, it needs to be the last time Clinton's character is defined by his overbearing, patriarchal, reactionist attitude toward his sister, or his character will become permanently one-note.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 09 Nov 2014, 13:50
Ah, but we all know that - for comedic reasons - Clinton will be the last to know. His head may explode at the revelation, and his hand might independently seek out a certain indie-boy throat.

Yeah, I can definitely see that - there's already been some foreshadowing that Clinton's opinion is that having no contact with the world is Claire's safest option, and he may feel his position as primary protector threatened by Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 13:56
Violence?  Nah.  I'm sure he'll get angry and frustrated but will just stomp off instead, somehow winding up at Coffee of Doom, where his complaints to Hannelore are overheard by, are met with scorn from, May, to whom he replies with a snide comment about her cheap chassis, and thus he is introduced to an entirely different problem.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 09 Nov 2014, 14:06
Considering that May took an interest on hacking, she might get Clinton's own hand to strangle Clinton until he shuts up.

I mean... noooo violence is wrong Clinton's a good guy May can't do that because jail
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 09 Nov 2014, 14:26
Considering that May took an interest on hacking, she might get Clinton's own hand to strangle Clinton until he shuts up.

I mean... noooo violence is wrong Clinton's a good guy May can't do that because jail
I wouldn't call him categorically good... (see above about his attitude and the fact that he needs to grow somehow as a person to keep from being boring understood as an (mostly) irredeemable jerk)

As for robohand (or May-related) violence, I think we all know that allusions to such are only just pointing to the sort of reaction, and not the severity of it. Nobody's likely to have their trachea crushed in this strip, and May doesn't need to violate parole. May has other methods of convincing people not to be jackasses.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 14:47
May has other methods of convincing people not to be jackasses.

And a verbal smackdown could be precisely what Clinton needs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 09 Nov 2014, 14:50
May talks a good game, but she hasn't shown any particular leaning towards actual violence, except where Hanners is concerned. I suspect any issue shes going to have with Clinton to be resolved with contempt, unless he disrespectes Hannelore or her father.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 09 Nov 2014, 15:10
May has other methods of convincing people not to be jackasses.

And a verbal smackdown could be precisely what Clinton needs.
Scorn (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445), part 2. Now with OCR-A-BT characters and a perfectly straight line of text.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 09 Nov 2014, 15:16
If that happens, it needs to be the last time Clinton's character is defined by his overbearing, patriarchal, reactionist attitude toward his sister, or his character will become permanently one-note.

Agreed. I mean, the rest of his character isn't much more pleasant (being creepy towards Hanners and not respecting her boundaries), or interesting (a tech geek that doesn't use the covering for his robot hand when he goes swimming? what? does he WANT to break it?), but I think his  patronising attitude towards his sister is the most annoying.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 09 Nov 2014, 15:51
I think that it would be nice for Claire to say to Clinton that she's happy that her brother loves her enough to want to protect and help her. However, she is twenty-four, going on twenty-five. She can and will have a relationship with anyone she wants to, even an intimate relationship, if she chooses. If Clinton has any reason to say Marten isn't worthy beyond paranoid rambling, he's welcome to come out and say it; otherwise, he should mind his own business.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 15:55
Agreed. I mean, the rest of his character isn't much more pleasant (being creepy towards Hanners and not respecting her boundaries), or interesting (a tech geek that doesn't use the covering for his robot hand when he goes swimming? what? does he WANT to break it?), but I think his  patronising attitude towards his sister is the most annoying.

Well, Angus and Dale had their chances to be redeemed (although I don't like to lump them together; Dale's thing with Marigold was a friendly rivalry that went on a bit too long, whereas Angus was actually creepy-stalkerish for a while), so I think Clinton deserves a chance.  Maybe Marten dating his sister will force him to confront his overprotective nature, among other things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 09 Nov 2014, 16:46
Since Jeph's at a Con, what's the prediction for tonight's strip? Yelling Bird? Montage? Rough sketch filler? Guest strip? Or actual strip?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 09 Nov 2014, 16:48
I go for Yelling Bird. His last appearance had an alarmingly low amount of filthy portmanteaus and YB will try to fix it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 Nov 2014, 16:52
A week of Steve eating different Cereal brands.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Nov 2014, 16:53
An anatomically correct drawing of his own testicles being dunked in a bowl of lukewarm mushroom soup.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 09 Nov 2014, 17:06
Emily looking at cat gifs.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 09 Nov 2014, 17:07
An anatomically correct drawing of his own testicles being dunked in a bowl of lukewarm mushroom soup.

I'm not sure which is more disturbing: your level of specificity, or the fact that I could totally see that happening.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Nov 2014, 17:19
If I ran a webcomic, that's what I would probably do every time I was at a con, except maybe changing the flavour of soup each time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 17:21
Here is everything we know about Clinton:

Positive:
Neutral:
Negative:

So it's not that there's not nothing good or interesting about him — it's just that we've seen so much more of his bad side that if he has a third tantrum in a row over Marten's relationship with his sister, it really feels like that would be the end of his ability to be a credible positive force in Claire's (or anyone's) life.

Some directions I would not mind seeing Clinton go in:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 17:21
Gabby, lost in the maze of shelves, clad in the skins of slain Bibliodons, almost given up hope of ever finding her way back to the front desk, turns yet another corner--and somewhere, off in the distance, hears an Oooook.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Orkboy on 09 Nov 2014, 17:23
Gabby, lost in the maze of shelves, clad in the skins of slain Bibliodons, almost given up hope of ever finding her way back to the front desk, turns yet another corner--and somewhere, off in the distance, hears an Oooook.

Headcanon accepted. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 09 Nov 2014, 17:26
If I ran a webcomic, that's what I would probably do every time I was at a con, except maybe changing the flavour of soup each time.

Stay away from the Vichyssoise. Causes shrinkage.  :lol:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 09 Nov 2014, 17:35
  • Clinton breaking character and managing to have a civil interaction with Marten, maybe giving us a chance to learn something new about him.

Come to think of it, a visit by the gang to the Horrible Revelation would accomplish several things simultaneously:

So Clinton and Marten at the HR would be a chance to put Clinton in a social situation to see how he does, and also a chance for him to get over whatever issues he's got with Marten (or to just get over himself).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 09 Nov 2014, 17:43
Let the refreshing commence!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 17:46
The last bar night (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2794) (sans Angus) was only ~35 strips/48 hours ago, so we may not be due quite yet. And anyway, I sort of have trouble imagining drunk!Clinton being any more bearable than he is when he's sober. Boy needs more inhibitions, not less, TBQH.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 09 Nov 2014, 17:53
I'm pretty sure Clinton's issue with Marten is that Marten is "stealing" Claire from him. At least in his mind.

Nothing sick. Clinton seems to take a paternal attitude towards Claire. It's typical "no one is good enough for my little sister." Never mind Claire being the older one.

His pattern of ignoring boundaries ties it all together.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 17:56
I'm pretty sure Clinton's issue with Marten is that Marten is "stealing" Claire from him. At least in his mind. Nothing sick.

Imagined "ownership" of another person isn't sick? Whatever you call it, it makes me uncomfortable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 18:19
I'm pretty sure Clinton's issue with Marten is that Marten is "stealing" Claire from him. At least in his mind. Nothing sick.

Imagined "ownership" of another person isn't sick? Whatever you call it, it makes me uncomfortable.

RF probably meant "sick" as in "incestuous."  His ordinary possessiveness is sick enough on its own, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 09 Nov 2014, 18:27

Nothing sick. Clinton seems to take a paternal attitude towards Claire. It's typical "no one is good enough for my little sister." Never mind Claire being the older one.

funny thing is, isn't Clinton the younger sibling iirc?

but yeah, specially if Claire had bullying issues or the like growing up, not having friends I can see Clinton being the only person she talked to, so at this point it is what he must feel
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 09 Nov 2014, 18:53
I'm pretty sure Clinton's issue with Marten is that Marten is "stealing" Claire from him. At least in his mind. Nothing sick.

Imagined "ownership" of another person isn't sick? Whatever you call it, it makes me uncomfortable.

RF probably meant "sick" as in "incestuous."  His ordinary possessiveness is sick enough on its own, though.

This. Clinton doesn't seem to feel true ownership over Claire. He just seems to think he can make his opinion known. Indeed, he seems to think it's imperative that his view point be heard.

That's pretty much how he seems to approach everyone. I based the big brother analogy on what he says, not how he says it. That kind of machismo is pretty much par for western culture. I'm sure Clinton could express the same attitudes in a way that would come across as caring, instead of overbearing. He's oblivious and oblivious to his obliviousness.

I'm pretty sure he was sincere both times he engaged with Marten about Claire. It just never occurred to him that there was no need for him to say what he said.

Clinton is immature, and his behavior towards Claire is wrong, in a perfect world sense. Claire's willingness to see the familial affection at the root of it is probably a sign of the many problems in western culture.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 09 Nov 2014, 19:05
So, anyone else think that we are in a good place for a time skip in the strip?

Lets do the Time Warp again!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Nov 2014, 19:57
Personally I would list interaction with Momo among Clinton's negatives.

He's the only person we've seen her actually tasering and I find her reaction proportional and justified.

Spouting conspiracy theories about AIs to her was just plain rude as well.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 09 Nov 2014, 20:02
There's one thing about the Clinton/Claire dynamic that I've always believed tied it all together: beyond being siblings, they're functionally best friends, and neither of them is fully happy with the fact that their closest friend is their obnoxious sibling.

Every time we see Clinton, he either arrives with Claire or alone.  Claire brought Clinton (and only Clinton) along to the lake house, and even as she became a more prominent character, she hasn't been seen socializing outside of work with anyone but Clinton, Marten, and Emily (I think?), the latter two she just met a couple months ago.  The two of them are best friends, whether they like it or not, and in that light, Clinton worrying about Marten "stealing" Claire from him is almost exactly the same as Hanners' reaction to Marigold (accidentally) dropping her for Dale.  (Did people complain about that?  I haven't been active on the forum very long.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2014, 20:08
Not only "functionally best friends" but, I would suspect about siblings with a back-story and a dynamic such as those two exhibit, there was a period in their lives each was all the other had. Not so much now for Claire, still very much so for Clinton -- and he doesn't know what to do.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Nov 2014, 20:11
Comic.

Yelling Bird is back, and in full form.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 20:20
Personally I would list interaction with Momo among Clinton's negatives.

He's the only person we've seen her actually tasering and I find her reaction proportional and justified.

Spouting conspiracy theories about AIs to her was just plain rude as well.

I completely forgot about this sequence.

Siiiiigh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Magniras on 09 Nov 2014, 20:24
I want a steady diet of Tim Hortons and lumberjack cocks...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 09 Nov 2014, 20:25
"Dick Psychosis" + "Extra Limb Syndrome" = a recipe for the greatest Dual Tech EVER.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Nov 2014, 20:29
Good luck Jeph! Lexapro withdrawal is worst withdrawal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 09 Nov 2014, 20:43
"Dick Psychosis" + "Extra Limb Syndrome" = a recipe for the greatest Dual Tech EVER.

The Trinocular vision might actually help.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 09 Nov 2014, 21:01
I go for Yelling Bird. His last appearance had an alarmingly low amount of filthy portmanteaus and YB will try to fix it.

winner!

really tho, I would have been surprised if that wasn't the case. So while we get another actual comic....anybody know any good puns? :P
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 09 Nov 2014, 21:02
Coffee is a better drug of choice.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyithra on 09 Nov 2014, 21:29
Poor Jeph. I feel your pain dude.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 09 Nov 2014, 21:29
Coffee is a better drug of choice.

Or Energy Drinks like Rockstar and Kickstarter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 09 Nov 2014, 21:46
Oh dear, Acute Babyhands.  Too big and stubby-fingered, and the thumbs don't work - all you can do is close them into fists (which sort of works for grabbing things, but not at all for anything more detailed) and wave them about.

At least he doesn't have numb tongue.  ("NUM TUM??")
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sylilthia on 09 Nov 2014, 23:02
Oh look, its my first yelling bird comic.  I hadn't seen on until after I completed the archive. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 09 Nov 2014, 23:12
... Huh.

Well, if Jeph learns anything from this misadventure, it's that the effects and side-effects of pharmaceuticals can and do vary wildly from country to country!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 10 Nov 2014, 00:23
Hanners is best described by reading the DSM IV.
DSM-IV, DSM-IV-TR, or DSM-5?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 10 Nov 2014, 01:14
You want the V of course.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 10 Nov 2014, 01:50
Gabby, lost in the maze of shelves, clad in the skins of slain Bibliodons, almost given up hope of ever finding her way back to the front desk, turns yet another corner--and somewhere, off in the distance, hears an Oooook.

Headcanon accepted.

I, too, like the thought that Gabby is trapped in L-Space. Either that, she imprudently went through a door marked 'Staff Only' (Tom Holt's Overtime) and is in another time and place altogether or she twisted a door-knob left whilst wearing a hat and ended up in Yankee Stadium (The Adjustment Bureau).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Nov 2014, 10:32
Hanners is best described by reading the DSM IV.
DSM-IV, DSM-IV-TR, or DSM-5?

Whichever one suits your style best, I suppose. Isn't that how people do everything?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 10 Nov 2014, 13:55
[tweet]531919067519938560[/tweet]
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 10 Nov 2014, 15:03
Well, crap.  Hopefully the process of getting home won't make him strangle anyone.   Air travel blows even when it mostly works.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Nov 2014, 15:09
I guess we'll have to click "previous" and look at Friday's strip again, instead. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 10 Nov 2014, 15:58
 Lost and unable to find the restaurant, Marten and Claire must survive on the mean streets of Northampton until Jeph can sneak across the border and update the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Nov 2014, 16:08
Looking around, they spot a bookstore occupying a spot they could've sworn used to be a condemned lot...yesterday.  They approach, but are suddenly forced to take cover as the glass front shatters and a dead bibliodon flies through the window.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 10 Nov 2014, 16:12
A battle scarred Gabby poses in the broken window, brandishing a poking stick and shouting "Who's getting put on the bus now, sucker?!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Nov 2014, 16:24
Headcanon accepted.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 10 Nov 2014, 16:27
They enter the mysterious bookstore, and suddenly find themselves at the Bombing of Guernica. As they begin to flee toward the exit, they spot Sara riding an allosaurus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 10 Nov 2014, 16:34
Headcanon accepted with one minor modification:

A battle scarred Gabby poses in the broken window, brandishing a poking stick in one arm and holding Lydia with the other, shouting "Who's getting put on the bus now, sucker?!"

I'm pretty sure that would make me squee even more than Martenclaire did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 10 Nov 2014, 17:26
It's the serendipity.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rimwolf on 10 Nov 2014, 17:45
They enter the mysterious bookstore, and suddenly find themselves at the Bombing of Guernica. As they begin to flee toward the exit, they spot Sara riding an allosaurus.

FIGHT, ITEM, or RUN?
_
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Magniras on 10 Nov 2014, 18:25
They enter the mysterious bookstore, and suddenly find themselves at the Bombing of Guernica. As they begin to flee toward the exit, they spot Sara riding an allosaurus.

FIGHT, ITEM, or RUN?
_

ABSCOND!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Nov 2014, 18:55
They enter the mysterious bookstore, and suddenly find themselves at the Bombing of Guernica. As they begin to flee toward the exit, they spot Sara riding an allosaurus.

FIGHT, ITEM, or RUN?
_

ABSCOND!
Limit break?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 10 Nov 2014, 18:58
Um. Am i the only one who is rather miffed that he wouldn't get a buffer going before a known out of town Con? i mean, his patron pays him a rather ridiculous amount of money on top of him stating that he was able to do QC full time beforehand...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 10 Nov 2014, 19:09
[tweet]531919067519938560[/tweet]

Well, foo.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Nov 2014, 19:10
Um. Am i the only one who is rather miffed that he wouldn't get a buffer going before a known out of town Con?

Yeah, probably.  So he ran into an unexpected problem and won't get a strip up tonight.  Either we get a guest comic or we wait a day.  These things happen sometimes.  Could be worse.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2014, 19:11
Claire and Marten are "kind of a thing, now."  But who will be the last to know?

Steve, who can surely shoulder the burden    2 (2.9%)
Gabby, who never got the text.  Wait, has anyone seen Gabby lately?  Gabby?  Gabby?  Oh crap she got eaten by a bibliodon    13 (18.6%)
Emily, who will try to give peas a chance but will only end up green with envy    4 (5.7%)
Clinton, whose response to the news is anything but evenhanded    21 (30%)
Veronica, who only hears about it from her old friend/college roommate/business partner (dramatic reveal) CLAIRE'S MOTHER?!    12 (17.1%)
Hannelore's dad, who is WORKING ON THE TECHNOLOGY!    13 (18.6%)
Pintsize, who is, um, also working on some technology.    5 (7.1%)

Total Members Voted: 70
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Magniras on 10 Nov 2014, 19:11
Um. Am i the only one who is rather miffed that he wouldn't get a buffer going before a known out of town Con? i mean, his patron pays him a rather ridiculous amount of money on top of him stating that he was able to do QC full time beforehand...

I think it might be a problem of him not having access to his buffer.  A missed connection means he might be stuck overnight somewhere, and then have the joy of taking a plane to his final destination before finally getting back to work on QC.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 10 Nov 2014, 19:14
Um. Am i the only one who is rather miffed that he wouldn't get a buffer going before a known out of town Con? i mean, his patron pays him a rather ridiculous amount of money on top of him stating that he was able to do QC full time beforehand...

Jeph Jacques owes me precisely what I pay to view QC.  Bupkis.  Next comic comes when it comes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 10 Nov 2014, 19:16
 I think you could argue for not getting filler(Speaking in general, because fridays filler was the cutest thing ever), but today does seem out of his hands either way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Nov 2014, 19:18
Claire and Marten are "kind of a thing, now."  But who will be the last to know?

[...]

Total Members Voted: 70

And it's only Monday.  Anyone else want to do a poll? (And can they?  Or am I the only one who can edit it?) I don't have any good ideas at the moment.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Nov 2014, 19:19
Only the OP or mods can do polls, and then only alter the original in a thread.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Nov 2014, 19:23
Well, to any mods out there, have at it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Emperor Norton on 10 Nov 2014, 20:29
Um. Am i the only one who is rather miffed that he wouldn't get a buffer going before a known out of town Con? i mean, his patron pays him a rather ridiculous amount of money on top of him stating that he was able to do QC full time beforehand...

Things happen in any line of work. For instance, I went to a convention and told my work I would be able to work from the hotel a few hours a day because I would have internet in my room. I had stuff lined up to get finished while I was gone.

But the hotel had internet issues from overloading, I tried to use my phone to get some stuff to them, but the phone internet was also crashed from the convention.

Luckily, I had people to pick up the slack for me, who I got in touch with. Things happen. I take my job as seriously as I'm sure Jeph takes his (considering his general tone when he has to miss a comic, or a comic was late, which he has been doing really good about not happening anymore), but you can't be perfect all the time.

So yeah. just lay off. Not everyone is David Willis.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 10 Nov 2014, 21:13
They enter the mysterious bookstore, and suddenly find themselves at the Bombing of Guernica. As they begin to flee toward the exit, they spot Sara riding an allosaurus.

FIGHT, ITEM, or RUN?
_

ABSCOND!


They race for the back door and cram through it and find themselves in ......


Arisugawa's Locket
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 10 Nov 2014, 23:14
Looks like the TSA is still bottom of US governmental agencies that make friends and positively influence people! In some ways, it is horribly impressive that they're worse at this than the IRS!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 10 Nov 2014, 23:37
The TSA are to security what McDonalds are to haute cuisine: Too fast, too cheap and too inflexible to actually achieve the desired result.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Nov 2014, 02:12
Well, the apparent "desired result" of McDonald's is to make teenagers unhealthy while making a lot of money, so the comparison is a bit faulty...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Nov 2014, 03:43
Although, customs isn't the TSA.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 11 Nov 2014, 04:15
Although, customs isn't the TSA.

FWIW, I've found that people tend to think of 'customs' as being the entire experience of officialdom between the aeroplane and leaving the airport - customs, security, baggage collection and the whole lot.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 11 Nov 2014, 05:38
Um. Am i the only one who is rather miffed that he wouldn't get a buffer going before a known out of town Con?

I'm guessing no, but asking who's pissed at the artist at their fan club meeting is ill advised.

i mean, his patron pays him a rather ridiculous amount of money on top of him stating that he was able to do QC full time beforehand...

People who donate to his Patreon campaign do so for their own reasons, and short of stretch goals (which have all been met), those donations do not obligate Jeph to do anything.

It's a great comic, and I definitely understand wanting the next one now, because MOAR COMIC and whatnot, but I doubt my (or your) frustration at missing a comic is anything close to his frustration at not being able to post one, regardless of why.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrudd on 11 Nov 2014, 08:35
Looks like the TSA is still bottom of US governmental agencies that make friends and positively influence people! In some ways, it is horribly impressive that they're worse at this than the IRS!
And in comparison to the dark times in Europe where going from west to east and east to west was at times intense, as a kid at the time, the officials were nothing but courteous and professional.
Mind you the ones with the actual guns and body armour were always in the background looking on with cold detachment, never making eye contact if you did look at them directly.

My encounters with the TSA and Homeland on the other hand has been like dealing with Gang Members.
There are always a few that are relate-able people but for the most part all are bullies who love to abuse their power and will find any excuse to exercise it and they will treat you as a criminal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Magniras on 11 Nov 2014, 08:43

They race for the back door and cram through it and find themselves in ......

Arisugawa's Locket

>REVOLUTION!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Nov 2014, 08:44
The experience I've had with customs is that you should say as few words as possible to them. Granted, I work in atomic physics, which sounds to a customs agent like "nuclear weapons," so now when I enter the country and they ask me what I was doing, I say "Conference" and leave it at that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Nov 2014, 09:32
Planning the overthrow of your decadent country!

Very well, do you have any fruit or nuclear materials to declare?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 11 Nov 2014, 09:37
I'm just glad that the last time I had to deal with US customs, despite their tirade of harassment, they didn't actually check my bags for the (then-illegal) absinthe that I was carrying.  Only other customs I've ever been through was UK customs, and well, I actually never saw any agents.  Heathrow was basically get off the plane, and walk straight to immigration.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 11 Nov 2014, 09:44
Planning the overthrow of your decadent country!

Why does this line make my brain reply with "CAKE OR DEATH? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjcuZ-LiSY)"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 11 Nov 2014, 10:12
My encounters with the TSA and Homeland on the other hand has been like dealing with Gang Members.
There are always a few that are relate-able people but for the most part all are bullies who love to abuse their power and will find any excuse to exercise it and they will treat you as a criminal.

The TSA booth: where all Americans get treated like regular cops treat black people.

*sniff* There really is a post-racial world out there.  It's only the airport, but still, it's a start.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: katsmeat on 11 Nov 2014, 10:32
I'm just glad that the last time I had to deal with US customs, despite their tirade of harassment, they didn't actually check my bags for the (then-illegal) absinthe that I was carrying.  Only other customs I've ever been through was UK customs, and well, I actually never saw any agents.  Heathrow was basically get off the plane, and walk straight to immigration.

UK customs tend to be more subtle, but I can assure you you were carefully scrutinized on your way through.  If you had displayed signs of nervousness before entering customs and relief after passing through, you might well have been taken aside for a little chat. Triply so if your flight had originated in a known drugs shipment point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Nov 2014, 11:37
It's not about the subtlety. It's about blatant abuse of power and people given free reign that don't deserve it. Not that they're all bad of course. But there are enough of them out there who are permitted to stay after some pretty horrible stories.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Nov 2014, 11:53
I'm one of the few people who has had a positive experience with the TSA. The TSA agent was trying to explain something to a Frenchman who had very little English, and she called out "Does anyone here speak French?" My wife speaks French fluently and so volunteered to act as a translator, which cleared up the whole situation in a couple of minutes. The TSA agent then called someone from our airline over to her station, pointed to us, and said "I want these people in first class." We didn't actually get into first class that time (no available seats) but we got a voucher for a future flight.

So hooray for government agents abusing their power in nice ways, I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 16:54
Comiiic!

Yessss.....



(And I hope those thirteen people in the poll above didn't put any money down on Veronica.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 11 Nov 2014, 16:56
Is Veronica's reaction time measurable with current timing contraptions? I don't think it is.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Nov 2014, 17:04
And Claire's about to be subjected to the test of the mom jabbar (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=461).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: greywolfe on 11 Nov 2014, 17:06
And suddenly, mom

Time for a ClaireReaction
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 11 Nov 2014, 17:06
Veronica looks as happy as Tai did.

Wonder if she'll have better boundary sense than Clairemom - I hope she doesn't invite herself to dinner with them.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 17:06
Is Veronica's reaction time measurable with current timing contraptions? I don't think it is.

Well, since she was probably several blocks away a moment before Claire spoke in panel 1, her ability to appear in that exact spot several seconds after being invoked is pretty damn impressive.  "Mom-sense activating!  My son and a girl I think would be good for him are discussing me?  I'll just duck into this alley, and--zip!--Hello, dear!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Arancaytar on 11 Nov 2014, 17:07
She's definitely squeeing on the inside.

(Also: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379 )
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 17:08
And Claire's about to be subjected to the test of the mom jabbar (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=461).

Nah, she already passed that. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379)

(Whoops, Arancaytar beat me to it.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 17:15
Not sure what Claire's reaction in that last panel is saying though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 11 Nov 2014, 17:19
Veronica looks as happy as Tai did.

Wonder if she'll have better boundary sense than Clairemom - I hope she doesn't invite herself to dinner with them.

that would be delightfully transgressive (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2681).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Nov 2014, 17:21
Great hand poses in panel 4.

This is the exact same punchline as 2810 and 2822. Are we done with the victory laps yet?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Nov 2014, 17:29
Not sure what Claire's reaction in that last panel is saying though.

Claire knows what Marten's going through right now, because she's seen Veronica in action before, and has a pretty good idea that Veronica is like her own mother when it comes to boundaries.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Svennerson on 11 Nov 2014, 17:31
This is the exact same punchline as 2810 and 2822. Are we done with the victory laps yet?

No.
Never.
More victory laps.
Victory Sunday Drive.
Victory Ferry.
Victory trip to outer space.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stinson6016 on 11 Nov 2014, 17:46
I love the last panel! the looks on Marten's face all "not now", the look on Veronica's face is all squeeeeeeee, and Claire is all "what?"
Just so much emotions packed in such a small amount of space.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: lot_jockey on 11 Nov 2014, 17:57
Oh, darn. Friday comics won't end in a '5' or a '0' for a little while now!

So, the characters who know that Marten and Claire are a thing: Hannelore (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2819), Tai (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2822), and Faye (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2825).

Characters who have probably guessed that they're a thing: Claire's mom (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2809), Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2810),  and Veronica (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2832).

April, I'm sure we'll get a different punchline when Clinton finds out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 11 Nov 2014, 18:00
1: Mothers are Supernatural Creatures, they know when they are being discussed
2. There goes my vote in the poll, next guess Clinton
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 18:13
Characters who have probably guessed that they're a thing: Claire's mom (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2809), Dora (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2810),  and Veronica (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2832).

Of course, Dora only heard the rumors from Faye and got the news from Tai, but Marten still has to confirm it (with or without (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2078) pants?), so we still need to get that version of events...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 11 Nov 2014, 18:26
I'm wondering how many of the female members of the cast haven't seen Marten in his boxers yet. I expect that Tai and/or Faye and/or Hanners will have told the rest of the coffee shop by now or the next day
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 11 Nov 2014, 18:29
Looks like the TSA is still bottom of US governmental agencies that make friends and positively influence people! In some ways, it is horribly impressive that they're worse at this than the IRS!
And in comparison to the dark times in Europe where going from west to east and east to west was at times intense, as a kid at the time, the officials were nothing but courteous and professional.
Mind you the ones with the actual guns and body armour were always in the background looking on with cold detachment, never making eye contact if you did look at them directly.

My encounters with the TSA and Homeland on the other hand has been like dealing with Gang Members.
There are always a few that are relate-able people but for the most part all are bullies who love to abuse their power and will find any excuse to exercise it and they will treat you as a criminal.

Heh. You think the TSA is the bottom of that pile? Spoken like people who've never had to deal with BATFE.

And now my favorite customs joke:
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/79/08/b1/7908b110c3ea412cb05c9bc9e1a79d5c.jpg)


Re: Comic
Speak of the mother, and she shall appear.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Nov 2014, 18:51
She looks like she's going to squeeeee so hard it it makes Scorn (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1445) look weak
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Nov 2014, 19:04
Well, well! Veronica time! Marten's in for a 'fun' time. Let's hope it doesn't turn the date into a disaster for him (though I expect Claire will have a fun time either way, even if it's just amusement at watching Marten squirm).

(Actually, a disaster would be amusing. I amend my earlier statement.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Nov 2014, 19:37
Dammit!


Now he'll have to find his mother's 'Reset' Button.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Nov 2014, 19:42
Dammit!


Now he'll have to find his mother's 'Reset' Button.


I wonder if Jim has found her 'Reset' Button?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Nov 2014, 19:44
Now he'll have to find his mother's 'Reset' Button.
Well then. Hopefully they can dodge his mother and find dinner at a place where the food's oedipal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Nov 2014, 19:46
That pun rex the entire thread.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 19:48
And healthy.  Best to stay away from Freud food.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Nov 2014, 19:49
oedipal... rex...

Is it me, or do these puns sphinx?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Nov 2014, 19:50
Reading them almost makes me want to poke out my eyes with bed pins.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Nov 2014, 19:53
Yeah

After all, this isn't old Valyria
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Nov 2014, 19:54
To many puns..

I just Kant anymore...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 11 Nov 2014, 19:55
Have a beer mate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 19:56
But the night's still Jung!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Nov 2014, 19:56
To many puns..

I just Kant anymore...
Of course you can! You're too Jung to be tired of puns.

damnit Gladstone
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Nov 2014, 19:57
So he says to me I'm not sure if I've heard of Pavlov but the name rings a bell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Sullivan on 11 Nov 2014, 20:00
Great hand poses in panel 4.

This is the exact same punchline as 2810 and 2822. Are we done with the victory laps yet?

Agree re the hand pose. Masterful.

I think the point of this strip is not so much Veronica being happy-stunned the same way Tai was, but that Marten is wondering the same thing you are: "Ok, how many more times do I have to go through this?" (A: as many as it takes...)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 20:02
Of course you can! You're too Jung to be tired of puns.

damnit Gladstone

Ahaha!  Got a Locke on that pun before ya!  Hope it doesn't Paine you much.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Nov 2014, 20:05
Well, at least we've pole Voltaire'd over the electrical puns into philosophy puns.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DonInKansas on 11 Nov 2014, 20:34
And Claire's about to be subjected to the test of the mom jabbar (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=461).

Nah, she already passed that. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379)

(Whoops, Arancaytar beat me to it.)

Martenmom was well into the bottle at this time, though.  SoberMartenMom may have a different test.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MrNumbers on 11 Nov 2014, 20:41
Well, at least we've pole Voltaire'd over the electrical puns into philosophy puns.

Long time lurker, first time poster, and I have to say it's almost solely because I approve of all this Nietzsche humour. So I had to Locke in an account, and hope that the first pun wasn't so tortured someone said "Hey, don't Confucius like that". Maybe I ought to Descarte that one and draw another from the deck.

And now I better leave, before the humour Platos.

Oh! Err...  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Nov 2014, 20:52
Of course you can! You're too Jung to be tired of puns.

damnit Gladstone

Ahaha!  Got a Locke on that pun before ya!  Hope it doesn't Paine you much.
I give this post a 7/10. Good effort, and two for one, but you lose Marx for gloating.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 11 Nov 2014, 20:55
I think her face is going to stick that way.
At least for a few more panels.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 21:01
I give this post a 7/10. Good effort, and two for one, but you lose Marx for gloating.

I would ask you to reconsider that rating, but I don't like to Hegel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 11 Nov 2014, 21:05
Well, at least we've pole Voltaire'd over the electrical puns into philosophy puns.

For the electrithity punth, let'th have a moment of Thales.

 :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 11 Nov 2014, 21:07
Ohm my god!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 21:27
I got bored, so new poll!  Have at it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Skewbrow on 11 Nov 2014, 21:41
If you reset the poll, it would be nice that you first copy/paste the final result of the previous one. We don't want to lose the outcomes of fine polls!

Edit: Ok. JWHouk did save it earlier. Thanks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Nov 2014, 21:58
Whoops, sorry.  jwhouk did it yesterday (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30289.msg1283146.html#msg1283146), so I didn't think to update it, although I do recall there were 88 or so votes right before I changed it.  Similar results--Clinton was the clear winner, although I couldn't say who was next--but apologies for losing it anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Nov 2014, 22:00
Yeah, usually if I am about to switch a poll, I post the final results before I change it (select, copy, paste, do some minor reformatting, post).

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Nepiophage on 11 Nov 2014, 22:28
Victory trip to outer space.

Yes please.

Marten: "Hi, Abby, this is Claire."
Lt. Abby Potter: "Sqeee!"
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Indicible on 11 Nov 2014, 22:43
Well...

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 11 Nov 2014, 23:34
I think Veronica will be embarrassing but purely for good reasons. She's happy for Marten, you see! Remember that her mother's instincts pinpointed Claire as a likely daughter-in-law. So, not only will she be smug at the quality of her foresight, she will want to fuss a bit over them (with added double-entendres) with unsolicited advice or possibly just react like a teenage girl. Yeah, it will be embarrassing but nothing that Marten and Claire haven't handled before!

I wonder if Jim will appear and rescue the couple from his giddy girlfriend? IIRC, I voted for those two to be the next encounter!

Victory trip to outer space.

This might be Claire's second visit to the space station.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 12 Nov 2014, 00:00
Second visit? Has Claire been there on her own before? Is she secretly an astronaut? Because the only people we saw take a jaunt up there (who didn't already work there) were Marten, Hannelore, and Marigold. Unless you suggest she go up there in the future, but that that trip not be for celebration of victory. You managed to confuse me, you did.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ankhtahr on 12 Nov 2014, 00:26
All these puns really Russell my jimmies.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Nov 2014, 00:27
You may recall that, earlier, I wondered if EC  may have worked on that technology, completed it and that Claire was a beneficiary. It's just a gut feeling on my part.

Back to the strip: I wonder if Veronica will whisper something to Claire along the lines of: "If he's anything like his father, he'll love it if you touch him there..." or "He has a sensitive spot right about there..." Seriously, if Veronica does invite herself along, I strongly expect that, as soon as Marten leaves the table, toe-curling girl talk will commence. Toe-curling for Claire at least.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Nov 2014, 00:37
Is toe-curling a Paralympic sport?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 12 Nov 2014, 01:24
Don't think so, but I don't know that for sure
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 12 Nov 2014, 01:35
Seriously, if Veronica does invite herself along, I strongly expect that, as soon as Marten leaves the table, toe-curling girl talk will commence. Toe-curling for Claire at least.
For VV, it would be about as risqué as discussing the weather.

I guess all Marten can hope for is that she doesn't break out the photo album (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1828).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: swapna on 12 Nov 2014, 01:37
But the picture is soooo cute! It's a crime if Claire doesn't get to see it!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Nov 2014, 04:10
I wouldn't have a lot of trust in Veronica's 'mom insticts' for setting up Marten, really. She seems to just want to see him with someone, anyone. She's tried to hook him up with random waitresses at restaurants, just because they were there. She's arranged for a bunch of girls to kiss him as a birthday surprise. Her technique seems to be more 'throw girls at Marten and see which ones stick'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Nov 2014, 04:17
Honestly, that's how a lot of guys approach dating - throw themselves at a lot of women and see what sticks.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: theMarc on 12 Nov 2014, 04:31
With this strip, things have gone from "the best" to "even better than that".
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Nov 2014, 04:32
@Neko,

I agree that Veronica lays it on a bit thick. I think that she wants Marten to be happy and doesn't trust him to find someone solely on his own initiative. She might be right.

I've been thinking and I think the most embarrassing thing Veronica could do is start screaming, dancing around and singing (very loudly): "I'm gonna have grand-babies! I'm gonna have grand-babies!" I just wish I had any confidence in myself that she wouldn't do that... Anyway, she would then (with offended dignity) inform the two spluttering youngsters that it is a 'parent thing' and that they'll understand one day.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 12 Nov 2014, 04:51
Veronica embarrasses Marten. Marten reacts, maybe not as pissily as he did in VV's post-Dora visit. VV puts her Doc Marten-clad MomFoot(TM) down.
Claire sides with VV. They talk about Marten (who's RIGHT THERE) over whiskey (Peaty, with a hint of ... leather? Why, yes, dear)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Nov 2014, 05:02
Her technique seems to be more 'throw girls at Marten and see which ones stick'.

I wish I had a mom like that. Well, aside from the Dominatrix part.....
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: pwhodges on 12 Nov 2014, 05:09
My romantic life up to my first marriage consisted solely of the friend of a friend of the family being thrown at me with glue* on.  It was my first experience of romance, and we were married for 22 years.

* A child (https://cassland.org/album/paul-old-photos/Children/Max/slides/Max-First.html).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Nov 2014, 05:21
I think the most embarrassing thing Veronica could do is start screaming, dancing around and singing (very loudly): "I'm gonna have grand-babies! I'm gonna have grand-babies!" I just wish I had any confidence in myself that she wouldn't do that...

Well, she did do that, in the first draft of this strip (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379)--can't remember the exact wording, but she said something about Marten being ready to settle down and have kids, or something, but Jeph actually rewrote her dialogue and reposted the comic because he was worried the joke would be too insensitive, with Claire being trans (even if Veronica didn't know).  So a grandbaby dance probably won't happen now, either.

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Back to the strip: I wonder if Veronica will whisper something to Claire along the lines of: "If he's anything like his father, he'll love it if you touch him there..." or "He has a sensitive spot right about there..."

He goes all wobbly when you nuzzle his neck.  I'm sure Dora will let Claire in on that little secret, at some point.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Nov 2014, 05:50
Just based on Veronica's expression, I'm not expecting a sober or calculated action tomorrow. My personal highest probability is a sudden hug of both Marten and Claire at once. Only then will she be able to say anything coherent (probably something along the lines of "I knew it! I just knew it!"). She'll doubtless extract a promise to meet up with her soon to tell her the story in exchange for letting them go on their date unmolested.

She might also take the opportunity to invite them to her apartment-warming party.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Nov 2014, 06:45
Veronica looks as happy as Tai did.

Wonder if she'll have better boundary sense than Clairemom - I hope she doesn't invite herself to dinner with them.

that would be delightfully transgressive (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2681).

Marten's expression looks like he thinks he knows where things are going, and he's not going to like it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 08:08
Actually, I Reed Marten's expression as, "oh look, my mother managed to drop into my life unannounced, yet again." The first time bothered him. The second upset him. Marten has mentioned that he'd prefer some warning, and doesn't like the fact that his mother tends to give less than 24 hours' notice.

Claire might take his reaction badly, but she generally doesn't jump the gun, so I expect her to wait and see how this plays out.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Nov 2014, 08:27
Actually, I Reed Marten's expression as, "oh look, my mother managed to drop into my life unannounced, yet again." The first time bothered him. The second upset him. Marten has mentioned that he'd prefer some warning, and doesn't like the fact that his mother tends to give less than 24 hours' notice.

Claire might take his reaction badly, but she generally doesn't jump the gun, so I expect her to wait and see how this plays out.

I'm not sure if you're right there. Marten had already told Claire that he knew his mother was moving to Northampton sometime soon but he didn't know when. I'd hope that he's clear-headed enough to realise that:
No, I think his expression is due to the fact that he knows his mum and he knows that her reaction to seeing him holding hands with Claire will mean some kind of embarrassing reaction. It's interesting that, even though it's the source of his problems, he hasn't let go of Claire's hand, though!  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Nov 2014, 08:54
Actually, I Reed Marten's expression as, "oh look, my mother managed to drop into my life unannounced, yet again." The first time bothered him. The second upset him. Marten has mentioned that he'd prefer some warning, and doesn't like the fact that his mother tends to give less than 24 hours' notice.

Claire might take his reaction badly, but she generally doesn't jump the gun, so I expect her to wait and see how this plays out.

I'm not sure if you're right there. Marten had already told Claire that he knew his mother was moving to Northampton sometime soon but he didn't know when. I'd hope that he's clear-headed enough to realise that:
  • Their meeting is purely coincidental;
  • Veronica is an adult and isn't obliged to keep him informed of her comings and goings.
No, I think his expression is due to the fact that he knows his mum and he knows that her reaction to seeing him holding hands with Claire will mean some kind of embarrassing reaction. It's interesting that, even though it's the source of his problems, he hasn't let go of Claire's hand, though!  :wink:

And if he had, I could see Claire reacting very badly to that.  There will be good times, and there will be bad times, but I think the only thing worse than cheating on Claire would be for Marten to let her think he's ashamed of her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Nov 2014, 09:55
It was pretty inevitable anyway. I mean Veronica lives in the same town now, she was going to find out 'they have a thing' (really Marten? It's called dating...) eventually. I'm sure he is just dreading the way she's going to act, the way he dreaded how she acted about all his previous girlfriends.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 12 Nov 2014, 09:57
I highly doubt Veronica is going to have to give Claire the 'Bosch paintings' talk, though. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 10:48
I have to disagree. Marten's answer to Claire's question implies that Veronica  returned to California after finding a place.

If true, the way he answered suggest that the last he knew, she was still on the west coast. Her unannounced return would be in keeping with her habit of dropping in with little notice.

The fact that she is a soon-to-be resident of Northampton does lessen the impact, somewhat, but this thing has been a "button" for Marten and people rarely step back and apply rational analysis when their buttons are being pushed.

Keep in mind, Veronica came out for a date. She decided to jump in it while still having her entire life in California. Odds are she's been making arrangements, and doesn't exactly live in Northampton, yet.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 12 Nov 2014, 11:25
I highly doubt Veronica is going to have to give Claire the 'Bosch paintings' talk, though.
She may well give that talk to Marten if he screws things up sufficiently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Doc on 12 Nov 2014, 13:19
Just saying 'mom' out loud made her appear.
It's like summoning a demon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Nov 2014, 13:34
Just saying 'mom' out loud made her appear.
It's like summoning a demon.

More like a demonatrix, amirite?   :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 13:50
Just saying 'mom'* out loud made her appear.
It's like summoning a demon.

More like a demonatrix, amirite?   :claireface:

One hopes this doesn't extend to the general case.

*Emphasis added
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Nov 2014, 14:08
Just based on Veronica's expression, I'm not expecting a sober or calculated action tomorrow.

.....

She might also take the opportunity to invite them to her apartment-warming party.

Or worse.....get Claire to take over the family business. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1305)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Nov 2014, 14:14
I have to disagree. Marten's answer to Claire's question implies that Veronica  returned to California after finding a place.
<snip>

No, no, she implied pretty much that she was moving out here, lock, stocks, whips and chains.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Nov 2014, 14:16
I think that's what RF is saying - Veronica went back to California to pack up her whips etc. so that she could bring them to Northampton with her.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 15:58
Indeed.

If Marten was aware that Veronica had completed her move, the answer to Claire's question would be "yes."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Nov 2014, 16:13
Back to the strip: I wonder if Veronica will whisper something to Claire along the lines of: "If he's anything like his father, he'll love it if you touch him there..." or "He has a sensitive spot right about there..."

Updating with relevant links now that I'm home from work: Dora could tell Claire about a certain "sensitive spot" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1005) (Delilah found it too (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2627)), but I think Claire will manage to find it on her own if she just keeps (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2800) nuzzling. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2808)

I think his expression is due to the fact that he knows his mum and he knows that her reaction to seeing him holding hands with Claire will mean some kind of embarrassing reaction.

I think he just needs to grin and bear it.  After all, Claire's mother already managed to embarrass her, so it's only fair that Marten gets a turn.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Nov 2014, 16:33
Indeed.

If Marten was aware that Veronica had completed her move, the answer to Claire's question would be "yes."

This is Marten we're talking about, though. He thought he'd have to fly up to his dad's wedding.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Nov 2014, 18:16
Okay, Imma stop trying to predict anything. 

Seriously.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 12 Nov 2014, 18:17
On reading first panel first thing I did immediately was check and make sure it was todays comic and not a accidental friday upload before continuing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Nov 2014, 18:18
adorable first panel Claire is adorable
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Nov 2014, 18:19
Adorable third panel Claire is also adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Nov 2014, 18:19
Yes, another classic Claire face. Who's going to be  the first to make it their avatar?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 12 Nov 2014, 18:20
adorable first panel Claire is adorable
Third panel, also.

Laughed at her fourth-panel "what."-face, though.

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Seriously?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Nov 2014, 18:24
Laughed at her fourth-panel "what."-face, though.

Yeah, them teeth tho. :-)

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Nov 2014, 18:26
Now THERE'S the Veronica we know and love!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 18:41
Indeed.

If Marten was aware that Veronica had completed her move, the answer to Claire's question would be "yes."

This is Marten we're talking about, though. He thought he'd have to fly up to his dad's wedding.

And this contradicts the quoted line how, exactly?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: freeman on 12 Nov 2014, 18:52
Man, just saying it again: Veronica is huge, like 6 feet 3" easily.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 12 Nov 2014, 19:16
I'm thinking she's in heels for some reason, but yeah, holy crap Marten missed the tall genes in the family.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 19:30
Veronica appears to be the same height as, or slightly shorter than, Henry. (They are almost exactly the same height while Veronica is wearing flat boots.)

Sitting down, Veronica is the same height as Marten.

Both Henry and Veronica are taller than Marten in most scenes (There's a notable case where Henry is the same height as Marten, but we'll let that pass).

Veronica is  professional dom, and part time (pro) fetish model.

Since Veronica is scaled roughly the right proportion to be same height sitting as Marten would be, in the current comic, there are only two, logical possibilities:

1)Artist error.
2)Platform heels

The answer is 1)

Veronica is likely wearing heels, but she appears taller than she did yesterday. This was likely to indicate that she had shifted right, toward the view point, to walk past. Her Mom selfie maintains this scaling, however, and the size difference is, over a a big jump from yesterday.

So the question is, how tall is Marten? I figure he's five nine, five ten, much like El Mariachi. No one treats Dora as extremely tall, which one would expect if she were six feet tall. No one treats Marten as terribly short, something you would expect of some one under 5 foot 9. Marten and Dora are close to the same height.

Sven, who I suspect is in the six two to six five range, is taller than Veronica. If Marten is actually 6 feet tall, then Veronica has to be at least six two and Sven is six four or six five. If Marten is five ten, then Veronica is around six feet and Sven is six two to six three. Roughly.

I don't think Sven is supposed to be basketball player tall, so I'm figuring on the low end. Probably closer to five nine for Marten
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Krald on 12 Nov 2014, 20:42
genes are funny things, one of my best friends is 6'1 with both his parents being 5'4 and 5'6
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Nov 2014, 20:48
This is Marten we're talking about, though. He thought he'd have to fly up to his dad's wedding.

And this contradicts the quoted line how, exactly?

He'd be clueless if his mom had told him she would be returning to Cali to get things on day X, and return on day Y, or if she said, "Screw it, I'm just gonna have 'em empty the house out and send all my domme stuff to me, I'm staying here in the meantime."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 12 Nov 2014, 21:30
You KNEW she couldn't resist, didn't you.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Nov 2014, 23:14
This is Marten we're talking about, though. He thought he'd have to fly up to his dad's wedding.

And this contradicts the quoted line how, exactly?

He'd be clueless if his mom had told him she would be returning to Cali to get things on day X, and return on day Y, or if she said, "Screw it, I'm just gonna have 'em empty the house out and send all my domme stuff to me, I'm staying here in the meantime."

Marten has never been that clueless. Not knowing where a town in North Vermont is in relation to where you live is different from forgetting where your mother is. Sheesh.

Whatever caused Marten's reaction wasn't important enough to actually show, as the entire I'm dating Claire now, communication took place off screen. Unless your preferred view of events is "Hi, Mom." "Well, I'll leave you two to your business. Have a good night."

Of course it's all head canon, anyway. So anyone who wants to believe that Marten, Claire, and Veronica exchanged no information beyond hello and goodbye can't be argued with. Marten didn't blow up, nor did he seem overly worried about Veronica's behavior, thus the SUrprise Mom-selfie was actually a surprise. I'm gonna go with it being an extension of the Veronica-drops-in-without-(much)warning running gag, because that is actually a thing. I expect that thing to get worse, rather than better, with Veronica living in Northampton (Mom! What are you doing here? I'd thought I'd stop by. You could have called, and wasn't the door locked? You should have the landlord look at that. Mom! what are you doing here? I live across the street, Marten. *Facepalm* Mom! What are you doing here? It's my boyfriend's bakery.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Nov 2014, 23:36
It's the fact that Veronica felt the need to get Marten and Claire off-guard and take them unawares that makes me laugh out loud. In some ways, Marten's calm demeanour and easy-going personality is understandable as a reaction to Veronica's spontaneity. I'm thinking that, after Henry left, he had to be the sensible one and keep his Mom grounded sometimes. She was probably more often a crazy teen than he was!

Claire's expressions are great. Panel 1 shows that she still has an automatic 'sub' reaction to Veronica's overwhelming personality, although I think that it's mostly shyness. Panel 3 seems to be nonverbally sating to Marten: "See? Not too bad, was it?" Goodness knows that he needs someone to keep him calm when dealing with his mother! IMHO, panel 4 is a classic Claire derp. I have no doubt that picture will end up online sometime soon!

It's obvious that a lot happened 'off-screen'. Claire's reaction might be because Veronica gave her approval and told Marten that she was 'such a pretty girl' or something similar. Marten seems genuinely surprised that things went so smoothly (so does Claire - she obviously remembers the wedding)!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 12 Nov 2014, 23:37
I know Claire is the favourite character of many of the forumites, so I'm trying to tread lightly, but anyone else already bored with this "OMG relationship" gag? 

I guess its the fact that its bringing with it a grind-to-a-halt pacing that's bugging me.  There have been 26 comics since their first kiss (such a squeeworthy event that I and others were driven to this board for the first time just to squee in good company).  Half of these were other stories (10 were about Faye/Marigold reacting to Angus skipping town, two were Winston and Pintsize hijinks, and one was a Yelling Bird filler).  The other half were all about Marten & Claire. ... except only 4 of them were actually about moving the relationship or the story ahead in anyway.  The rest were all characters reacting to it, usually with unusually high levels of happiness or a one-panel filler strip because Jeph had a convention to get to.  That's literally more than 2/3 of one storyline, which itself is taking up half the comic, doing nothing but repeating variations on the same joke.  It's getting boring.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: badpun on 12 Nov 2014, 23:43
Panel 1 and 3 of Claireface are pretty high up on squee causing charts right now
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 12 Nov 2014, 23:49
I know Claire is the favourite character of many of the forumites, so I'm trying to tread lightly, but anyone else already bored with this "OMG relationship" gag?

I don't think that it is dragging on too long. There are two things that you have to remember:
But, yeah, I hope we can move forward soon. I want the Faye/Angus arc resolved and to move on away from 'Day One'.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Akima on 13 Nov 2014, 00:45
Is it a selfie if there are three people in the shot?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 13 Nov 2014, 00:49
genes are funny things, one of my best friends is 6'1 with both his parents being 5'4 and 5'6
The height you reach depends upon more than just genes. Food quality has a huge influence.


Is it a selfie if there are three people in the shot?
I think yes. For example, people take selfies of themselves with famous people. So why not of themselves and friends ?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Nov 2014, 00:51
Is it a selfie if there are three people in the shot?

Photobomb?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Nov 2014, 00:56
Is it a selfie if there are three people in the shot?

A selfie is any picture you take of yourself, basicly, so yes.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 13 Nov 2014, 01:09
I know Veronica will probably wear heels anyway, but she is tall as shit.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 01:11
I know Veronica will probably wear heels anyway, but she is tall as shit.

She is tall but I got the impression from panel 4 that she'd sort of jumped up on Marten and Claire's shoulders; that's why they were visibly staggering.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 13 Nov 2014, 01:18
She's taller than them both in every appearance anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 01:21
I know Claire is the favourite character of many of the forumites, so I'm trying to tread lightly, but anyone else already bored with this "OMG relationship" gag? 

I guess its the fact that its bringing with it a grind-to-a-halt pacing that's bugging me.  There have been 26 comics since their first kiss (such a squeeworthy event that I and others were driven to this board for the first time just to squee in good company).  Half of these were other stories (10 were about Faye/Marigold reacting to Angus skipping town, two were Winston and Pintsize hijinks, and one was a Yelling Bird filler).  The other half were all about Marten & Claire. ... except only 4 of them were actually about moving the relationship or the story ahead in anyway.  The rest were all characters reacting to it, usually with unusually high levels of happiness or a one-panel filler strip because Jeph had a convention to get to.  That's literally more than 2/3 of one storyline, which itself is taking up half the comic, doing nothing but repeating variations on the same joke.  It's getting boring.

Maybe Jeph is running into the problem of using very few words. Pictures aren't always worth a thousand words. Sometimes five words is worth ten pictures.  It's a learning curve and he's trying to juggle in a new comic at the same time.

If the strength of the WCDT is any indicator, you aren't alone.

I've been doing NaNoWriMo. I'm writing my "novel" as scripts for a comic. It's not a gag-a-day comic, but the majority end on some kind of punch line or beat. If I tried to minimize words (which doesn't really work when word count is the goal) I would probably take three strips to accomplish what I do in one. I'm not saying this is a universal. After all, I think I've done pretty good for a first draft, and I've already churned out 365 scripts. So my ability to punch out the story is different. Jeph keeps a pretty strong story in his head and puts out a script a day.

I can't draw.

My point is, doing low word count storytelling is tricky. I could probably (if I took more time to plan) cut half the dialogue I have. That would speed up the pacing. Jeph's working what seems like a similar pacing but with about a quarter of the words. Allowing for words that solely set up daily gags, I suspect the overall result is that we are getting information at about 50 to 75% of the rate we used to. I suspect things aren't going slow as much as we are feeling starved for details and color.

Or maybe I'm just a guy who wrote 11 months' worth of comic in 12 days. That might skew anyone's perspective on pacing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 13 Nov 2014, 01:23
I'm missing the word filled comics a bit more as he goes on
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 13 Nov 2014, 01:26
I'm a songwriter, so I do low word count storytelling all the time.

It can be difficult to find the line between minimalist and lazy.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 01:30
I know Claire is the favourite character of many of the forumites, so I'm trying to tread lightly, but anyone else already bored with this "OMG relationship" gag?

Claire is my favorite, and yeah, I'm pretty bored. Jeph is clearly struggling with how and how much to talk about the elephant in the room, and falling back on other characters reacting to mark time while he spins his wheels — but he's out of time, and it's starting to feel really awkward.

Think back to Dora and Tai's first date, which was structured like this one - as a long walk-and-talk around Northhampton. Out of eight strips, they spend half of them talking about queer issues: body image, gender presentation, and genitals (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2257), coming out (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2258), family relations (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2259), and bullying (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2263).

We aren't going to see Marten and Claire touch on any of this stuff, because Jeph clearly wants Claire's trans status to be an asterisk at the end of her character — a relevant attribute, but not the salient one. Even if it would make sense for the characters to be talking about it, showing those conversations except where absolutely necessary would work against Jeph's storytelling goal.

So what does that leave? invite (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2256) ~ invite (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2828); banter (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2260) ~ banter (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2829), talking about music (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2261) ~ well, we've already seen (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2362) that conversation twice (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2453), and nothing new has been established about Claire's taste since her (vaguely dismissive) comments in those strips.

But it makes sense for Dora and Tai to spend the balance of their time talking about their queer experience. They certainly run no risk of alienating each other by doing it, there's no reason for them to feel circumspect about discussing it in public spaces, and it's a shared experience, so it's good cheap bonding for them. Claire and Marten are a straight couple, and this stuff doesn't apply to them. So let's reach further back for a better comparison: Faye and Angus's first date.

This takes place over twelve strips. We get the invite (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1725), two (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1732) strips of banter (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1733), some real talk (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1734) about the characters' childhoods, and a strip about music (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1735). In and around this, we get four (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1728) strips (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1731) of Marten (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1737) reacting (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1739) and two strips (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1726) of Marigold reacting (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1738). These work great, because the stakes are sky-high: we suspect Marten might still have feelings for Faye. Will he be a jealous dick to Angus, or will he be cool about it? How will it affect his failing relationship with Dora? We know Marigold is still into Angus. How will she handle the door closing definitively on any chance with him? We expect her to have trouble and hope that she won't. Suspense!

Compare this to the utterly tensionless cutaways to Faye, Dora (2810 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2810)), Tai (2822 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2822), 2824 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2824)) and Veronica (2832 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2832), 2833 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2833)) squeeing at Marten/Claire, and it does not feel like substantial storytelling. We haven't even touched on Clinton, the single character who might have a real emotional stake in this relationship.

And could Marten and Claire even have the substantial conversations Faye and Angus are having here? Claire already knows (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2378) about Marten's childhood. Marten doesn't dare ask about Claire's without her volunteering it first. Jeph won't have her volunteer it. The problem is that although this is technically a first date, it's narratively a fifth, after the walk (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2362), the wedding (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2377), the induction (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2453), and the ear piercing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2532). Most of the narrative tension of Marten and Claire getting to know each other has already been released. It's all over save the butt (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1736) grabbing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2264).

But of course, they can't just fall into bed Dale/Marigold style without talking about the stuff that Jeph doesn't want them to be talking about! This is why some of us were saying 2830 would be a great moment to time-skip ahead from, picking back up with a Claire and Marten who are fully in the swing of physical and emotional intimacy, and sparing Jeph the difficulty writing himself through a story he's half-way told already, and half-way reluctant to tell.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Nov 2014, 02:29
Any conversation the two of them need to have before doing sexy stuff can, and probably should, happen off camera. Unless Jeph wants to savour the awkwardness, of course, but I doubt he wants that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 02:51
Any conversation the two of them need to have before doing sexy stuff can, and probably should, happen off camera. Unless Jeph wants to savour the awkwardness, of course, but I doubt he wants that.

I'm not sure that this actually needs to be discussed at this stage. Marten is aware; that's what he meant when he told Claire that she felt 'natural'.

My guess is that Jeph is establishing all the other characters' reactions (mostly positive to date) before moving on. I'm not even sure that he'll show the date itself unless there are significant events therein. We might even cut back to the decisive conversation between Faye and Angus and then follow Faye home. Either she finds Marten and Claire making out on the couch or, next morning, there are three for breakfast (as well as Pintsize, still continuing his full-court press to be allowed to eat pancake batter) and we find out what Claire looks like in one of Marten's band shirts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 13 Nov 2014, 02:55
5 bucks say she gets one of the TEH shirts thinking it's hers and then remembers she's at Marten's.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Nov 2014, 03:15
Any conversation the two of them need to have before doing sexy stuff can, and probably should, happen off camera. Unless Jeph wants to savour the awkwardness, of course, but I doubt he wants that.

I'm not sure that this actually needs to be discussed at this stage. Marten is aware; that's what he meant when he told Claire that she felt 'natural'.

Any need for a conversation about it would likely be for Claire's benefit, I imagine. Marten is cool about it all, apparently.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: St.Clair on 13 Nov 2014, 05:25
All I can say at this point is that I really hope Veronica has a better grasp of things like "consent" and "boundaries" in her business life than when it comes to her own family, her son in particular.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Omio on 13 Nov 2014, 05:46
The teeth in the last panel earned a bit of squeeing.

Also, 'SUrprise mom-selfie'? Do you need to clean your keyboard, Jeph? =P

Please note, I'm trying (and probably failing) to be comical.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 13 Nov 2014, 05:56
All I can say at this point is that I really hope Veronica has a better grasp of things like "consent" and "boundaries" in her business life than when it comes to her own family, her son in particular.

Remember that she was a professional dominatrix. From all the stories of Marten's upbringing though, she was an amateur, but well-meaning, mother.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 13 Nov 2014, 05:56
AprilArcus nailed it once again.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 05:59
Remember that she was a professional dominatrix. From all the stories of Marten's upbringing though, she was an amateur, but well-meaning, mother.

+1 Ditto

Her heart is wholly behind her efforts but, like so many parents, she more-or-less has had to make it up as she went along.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 06:41
awesome analysis

My gut reaction to the idea of a time skip was oh hells no - there's too much going on right now to simply leap forward.  However, on reading your analysis, I find I have to agree.  There are really only two options - talk about the thing or skip to a place where the thing is understood to have been talked about already.  That may be some of the motivation with the less is more storytelling style of late.

Great, great work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: snubnose on 13 Nov 2014, 07:24
Just for the record, Jeph has changed character looks and artstyle all the time, as well as started secondary storylines or just some bit of robot shennanigans. So I dont really see whats so big an issue with todays comics.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 08:04
Just for the record, Jeph has changed character looks and artstyle all the time, as well as started secondary storylines or just some bit of robot shennanigans. So I dont really see whats so big an issue with todays comics.

Because this isn't a change of art style so much as a change of pacing. (At least how the pace is perceived.) By lowering the word count, Jeph's lowered the information content of each strip. The actual rate of story may not have changed, but it is creating a perception that nothing happened over the last 3 weeks. We had a fairly dense bit oh sqee followed by a week of tension then 3 weeks of not much.

Having recently binged the archives, I know that is pretty normal, but the old dialogue heavy strips still tended to feel like they were moving.

I'm not saying that the new style is a bad thing. I'm saying it's new. We're not used to it. What we are used to is (if I may speculate) is treating dialogue lite comics as filler. This is going to require adjustment.

I don't think the comic is really information lite right now. But Jeph is willing to go hundreds of strips before dropping the payoff for a visual cue.

Only time will tell if this change will pay off, or go by the wayside like the textured hair phase.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 08:19
The "textured hair phase" lasted a thousand (1659 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1659)-2659 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2659)) strips, so we may have to hang on for some time.

I generally prefer the minimalist dialogue, and find that the wordiness of the back half the archives makes reading through them a bit of a slog. 2829 is totally getting its job done just as well as 2260, and better than 1732/1733. "The Kiss" and "Fangpocalypse" arcs worked all the better for being really verbally spartan.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kryptoknight on 13 Nov 2014, 08:21
I agree that I believe the pace has suffered lately.  I think it's only partially due to the lower word count though.  I've also noticed a disappointing number of comics with a standard 4 square panel layout.  This layout is much less visually interesting than other layouts that have been used in the past and it leaves less room for things to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 13 Nov 2014, 08:36
By lowering the word count, Jeph's lowered the information content of each strip.

I disagree... he's relying on his art more to tell the story without words. I think the average information content per strip stays about the same... strips with 4-panel layouts seem to have more words than more novel ones... when there's no words in a given panel it's because he has set up a beat panel or is conveying something in the art.

As far as pacing goes, he's microscoping the first part of Claire/Marten for some reason. I'm not put off by it because I'm pretty sure it'll pay off in the end.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Thrillho on 13 Nov 2014, 08:40
Jeph's work is clearly in a transitional phase. We've had his A Hard Day's Night. This is his Beatles For Sale. Let's not push him down the stairs for playing with the format a little.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 13 Nov 2014, 08:47
I know Claire is the favourite character of many of the forumites, so I'm trying to tread lightly, but anyone else already bored with this "OMG relationship" gag?

Claire is my favorite, and yeah, I'm pretty bored. Jeph is clearly struggling with how and how much to talk about the elephant in the room, and falling back on other characters reacting to mark time while he spins his wheels — but he's out of time, and it's starting to feel really awkward.
(snip)

But of course, they can't just fall into bed Dale/Marigold style without talking about the stuff that Jeph doesn't want them to be talking about! This is why some of us were saying 2830 would be a great moment to time-skip ahead from, picking back up with a Claire and Marten who are fully in the swing of physical and emotional intimacy, and sparing Jeph the difficulty writing himself through a story he's half-way told already, and half-way reluctant to tell.

The pacing has slowed to glacial lately, but I'll note two things: first, we still haven't gotten Clinton's reaction. I think that's one of the reasons that we've seen this set up the way it's been. There'll be sufficient squee to let Claire know that she's on solid ground both with Marten and with his circle of friends, but at some point, the other shoe is likely to drop with someone whose reaction isn't so squee-tastic. Of course, there could be a further twist, if the less-than-cool party ends up being, say, Emily, and Clinton actually shows some decency and genuine support (rather than overbearing protectiveness) toward his sister.

Second, I think there are a few too many loose ends for a time jump right now. Faye/Angus and Dora/Sven especially; he could probably do Faye's side of the story with a few well-chosen lines, but to explain away the Dora/Sven situation with a wave of the hand would stretch credulity (IMHO). I do think that there's a degree to which Jeph may have painted himself into a corner with the number of narrative arcs he's juggling, and also setting up a relationship that he seems to tiptoe around (Claire/Marten), but it'll be interesting to see how he ties it all together.

I'd like to see more of a happy medium in terms of minimalism and a kind of Kevin Smith-ish dialogue-heavy kind of storytelling. Jeph seems to be kinda all or nothing. There are times -- in film or webcomics both -- when a gesture or facial expression says what needs to be said, and then some. But there are times when there's no substitute for dialogue. I'd rather see a balance of the two -- deploy each when they're called for -- rather than sacrificing one or the other just for a stylistic experiment. YMMV.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 09:03
So far, I am not a fan of how much is being left off screen. That doesn't mean I won't adjust.

I read most of the archive in real time. It wasn't a slog, when the next button didn't do anything for 18 to 72 hours or more.. rereading the archives wasn't a slog either, because it was undertaken with no other motives than rereading the archives.

I also read very fast.

I'm not arguing that the word level is objectively a problem. Just that it is probably having subjective impacts that make it seem as if the pacing has slowed.

As it happens, I have no issue with running dialogue lite as a device. It's a comic, after all. But words, panel, panel, punchline can get monotonous. We just had two days back to back of exactly that. We learned that Veronica approves, as expected. But that was exactly what was expected. I, for one, wanted more Veronica pay off. This feels like individually wrapped bite size Veronica. It also feels like it's over.

It's all about the feels. For all we know, Veronica is about to go full transgressive. Rereading it via the archives might feel perfectly natural. But right now, taking the story in as it is presented, it does feel like it's in a holding pattern. That's subjective. I'm just laying out the why behind that subjective experience.
By lowering the word count, Jeph's lowered the information content of each strip.

I disagree... he's relying on his art more to tell the story without words. I think the average information content per strip stays about the same... strips with 4-panel layouts seem to have more words than more novel ones... when there's no words in a given panel it's because he has set up a beat panel or is conveying something in the art.

As far as pacing goes, he's microscoping the first part of Claire/Marten for some reason. I'm not put off by it because I'm pretty sure it'll pay off in the end.

Dialogue can also serve as a beat. When I say the information content is down, I mean total information content. The relevant information content may be exactly the same. It's the difference between drinking from a garden hose vs a fire hose. You probably imbibe the same amount of water, but one is going to be a more visceral experience and probably involve more broken bones.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 09:04
I'd rather see a balance of the two -- deploy each when they're called for -- rather than sacrificing one or the other just for a stylistic experiment. YMMV.

I agree with you, but I think finding that balance is often a matter of skating up to - even over - the edge of overdoing it so you know where the line is.  Even then, finding the line can be damnably difficult - as the storyteller, you know what you're trying to get across, but being able to tell if it's actually coming across to anyone else can be a right bastard.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 13 Nov 2014, 09:28
Sorry to quibble:
Dialogue can also serve as a beat.

(click to show/hide)

Quote from: tvtropes
A silent panel in sequential art.

If there's dialogue, then it's definitionally not a beat. What am I missing?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 09:49
I think my biggest problem is that Claire has been in a purely reactive mode since she made her (ultimatley successful) pass at Marten 48 strips ago (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2785). This is great for Marten watchers, since we've known him for 3000 strips and it's makes for a fun role reversal, but Claire's impetuousness is her most clearly drawn character trait, and she is suffering a lot without it.

Things Marten and Claire could do on their date night that would be more interesting that enduring other characters squeeeeeeing over them:
Anyone else got one?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 10:06
Anyone else got one?

I'd have sworn on my soul that the one about talking about her library career wasn't there on first reading, but I was going to suggest that, especially since the pass she took at Marten 48 strips ago seemed to indicate she thinks or hopes to be at the library for some time, and she's a summer intern.  Maybe she talks about how she's applied for a permanent position?

They could try to draw one another out on what exactly led to their attraction.

"If you could ask me anything with no repercussions, what would it be?"  Either of them.

---

Kind of a follow on to the 'anyone else got one-' if the elephant in the room is Claire being a trans woman, is it possible to deal with it in any manner besides pointedly looking in another direction, and if so, how? 

Mind you, this isn't speculation about the mechanics of anything except storytelling, but if it's determined to be off limits, let me know and I'll delete it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 10:26
Sorry to quibble:
Dialogue can also serve as a beat.

(click to show/hide)

Quote from: tvtropes
A silent panel in sequential art.

If there's dialogue, then it's definitionally not a beat. What am I missing?

No. It's not a beat panel. A beat is merely a unit measuring the flow of the story. I would distinguish a beat panel from an action panel, from a dialogue panel, but they are all beats. Each is a unit of story. When one sets up a joke in panels one and two and a punch line in four, panel three is a beat, whatever it contains.

I mean to say, I suppose, that few  --if any-- of the recent beat panels HAD to be beat panels. The beat could have been anything.

(I should add that, while anything can be a beat, the term tends to be used for things that are not setup or pay off. For example, comedians often use lines to add space between the setup and punchline because that extra time enhances the impact of the payoff. Those lines are called beats.)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: wlewisiii on 13 Nov 2014, 10:37
  • Claire grew up in Northhampton, right? She must know all kinds of cool spots that relative-newcomer Marten doesn't. She grabs his hand and they go running off to the secret book store / nickel arcade / poetry slam. Maybe he meets some of her friends?

Pulled me out of deep lurk mode for my first post with this. I'll just say, hell yes. Grew up as a Punk in a small midwestern (serious flyover) town. She'll know shit Marten would have a hard time imagining exists. Even given his mother... Sere cool.

Back to lurk mode ...

/ lurk
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 13 Nov 2014, 10:46
I mean to say, I suppose, that few  --if any-- of the recent beat panels HAD to be beat panels. The beat could have been anything.

Ah... thanks for the explanation.


Edit: youtube embed didn't work... troubleshooting->looks like it needs the whole url
Edit Edit: apparently nobbc doesn't work on the youtube tag
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Edit Edit Edit Edit: found a much better version of the song
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 11:06
All other points aside, I really don't think the reduction in dialogue is a bad thing. Looking back, the thing that hurts the comic, for me, is the abrupt switching, since the implosion. The flow of words vs not words was working, before that.

The Faye Dora strip seemed like a setup. The Hanners Marigold strip seemed like filler but turned out to be a setup. The Date strips have been a setup, and Veronica looked like a pay off, but now looks like another beat between setup and payoff.

Subjectively, it feels like the lack of side commentary is hurting the pacing, but it could be that the last two weeks have been moving at the speed of smell.

Maybe I just see it all as missed chances. A few lines of dialogue would go a long way toward keeping Claire active, without any other change. Claire's big problem, as a story telling device, is her expressions tend to be ambiguous. (It's the eyes) What she says helps define what she's feeling. She's been very expressive lately, but she hasn't said enough to clue the reader in on what she's expressing. Jeph knows, on some level, whether she's gotten out of the driver's seat or not, and why. I don't, and I can't tell if her reactions are clues or mean nothing more than they appear to.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 11:29
Just want to point out that Jeph is not plotting this out in any kind of detail in advance - he writes by the seat of his pants, and he's having a very bad week. I'm suspect he went to the Veronica / everyone is :D for Clairten well yet again because he needed to get something out right then (having already missed a day, which he hasn't done in forever) and he didn't have the emotional stamina to write a Serious Dinner Conversation at that moment. I hope he's feeling better and that we get there soon, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 11:33
Just want to point out that Jeph is not plotting this out in any kind of detail in advance - he writes by the seat of his pants, and he's having a very bad week.

Actually, it was my understanding that the plotting and basic sketches are done well in advance; it's only the final strips that are done near to the release date.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 13 Nov 2014, 11:40
There may well be something to Jeph not wanting to go into gender stuff with Claire, although it is just the first date. Except for sex logistics, which is fine to keep off panel it doesn't need to come up much yet. But I think in a few months it may end up a valid complaint.

The "textured hair phase" lasted a thousand (1659 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1659)-2659 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2659)) strips, so we may have to hang on for some time.

Speaking of textures I said once I wish Claire kept her textured hair even if nobody else did. While I still want to see Claire's old hair back, I also have to take that back. If only ONE thing gets to be textured it is those trees. Or just don't draw trees. I skimmed 200 comics(Much faster than it sounds with arrow key navigation, I thought maybe it was 50 or something) looking for a textured tree and, while there were a few trees you just saw the base and not any leaves.

But these NES trees just aren't working.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 11:42
Reddit AMA (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/md8pd/i_am_jeph_jacques_author_of_questionable_content/c2zz6yc):
Quote
I have rough plot points (Marten and Padma hooking up, etc) planned out, and I just sort of aim for those. But frequently the comic will go in a different direction than I was expecting, and those plot points will change. I guess you could say I have a longterm plan, but am improvising my way through it.

[tweet]532219027914252289[/tweet]
[tweet]532330111907807233[/tweet]
[tweet]532335151427383298[/tweet]

So there were about eight hours between him finishing the script for 2832 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2832) and posting it.

There may well be something to Jeph not wanting to go into gender stuff with Claire, although it is just the first date. Except for sex logistics, which is fine to keep off panel it doesn't need to come up much yet. But I think in a few months it may end up a valid complaint.

If there were just more to Claire right now it would be fine. But since we're not getting to see her being obstreperous, funny, fastidious, fashionable or any of her other character traits, the mind naturally wanders to the Big Deal That We Don't Talk About.

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these NES trees just aren't working.

Comparing 2018 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2018) to 2731 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2731) makes me want to cry.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 11:48
What she said.

To expand the point: most writers have something of a plan and are working towards it, especially in Webcomics. Some just work further ahead than others.

Jeph built a buffer once. It didn't work for him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 12:04
@April,

You are, of course, assuming that Jeph was talking about the script of that day's comic. There is no automatic reason to assume that. The other two Tweets are very obviously about the art.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 12:40
Based on what actually happens (delay at customs = no comic) and the tweets about scripts proceeding tweets about art, it's a safe assumption that Jeph is working on today's (tomorrow's) comic right now--ish. Script and all.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Like I said, he had a buffer once. It didn't work for him. What he does now does.

I'm pretty sure Jeph writes ahead now and then. I can't imagine he doesn't find himself on a roll. (2682 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2682) and 2683 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2683) come to mind. There's no way I'll believe he didn't have the gist of 2683 locked in the day 2682 went up.) But based his own comments about guest comic because I couldn't write, and such, Jeph is very likely pantsing most scripts the day of.

It's one of the things that makes his work so impressive.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Nov 2014, 15:06
Hannelore, Faye, Tai, Veronica...Who's our next stop on the Marten & Claire Get-Together World Tour?

"Jimbo!" "Dad!" "CLAIRE?" "...Jimbo?"   26 (35.6%)
Steve (Commence arms race!)   8 (11.1%)
Pintsize & Winslow ("It's been militarized!  RUN!")   20 (27.8%)
"...Tai?  Are you FOLLOWING us?" "Just wanted to see which slashfic played out!"   19 (26.4%)

Total Members Voted: 73
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Nov 2014, 15:26
Starting to agree with April now.  I was originally in the No Time Skips camp, because I wanted to see every moment of this date play out, but if we're going to just keep getting other character reactions and no substantial getting-to-know-you kind of moments, it wouldn't hurt to fast-forward a few days to, perhaps, Faye and Dora at the Coffee of Doom with Faye grumbling about how Marten and Claire have been together all week holding hands and snuggling and just being nauseatingly cute with each other, ugh, and then Angus shows up to say his goodbyes.  Bring a close to that story, kill two birds with one stone, move on.

Then again, I'm also willing to accept that Jeph has had a rough week and wasn't in the mood to do anything but Mom Shenanigans, so I'm willing to wait and see.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: A Duck on 13 Nov 2014, 15:31
Considering Jeph's had a clearly rough week Assuming from his twitter), I assume the slowdown in plot speed is just him being a little burned out and doing a few silly comics.

I'm sure things will start to pick up soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 13 Nov 2014, 16:14
I'm willing to wait it out for a week or so before worrying about plot pacing. I've had weeks where nothing goes my way and thus my professors wondered what was happening with my papers. I do vote that the trees get texture (I'd like the hair too), but since I doubt Marten is going on many more forest walks soon, we should be okay.
Watch as their next date is going hiking
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Nov 2014, 16:27
Watch as their next date is going hiking

Well, Marten's about to have a little sister (Eeee! (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2705)), and Sam is about to get a big sister, if Veronica has her way, so there'll probably be a lot of hiking in future.

Hmm, Claire and Sam haven't met yet, have they?  Looking forward to that happening soon...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Nov 2014, 16:39
Hmm, Claire and Sam haven't met yet, have they?  Looking forward to that happening soon...

Now I'm imagining Claire bringing Sam a book about snakes and commiserating about brothers who can't catch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 13 Nov 2014, 16:48
I wouldn't say they're going to be siblings soon... actually if April could give us a Jim/Veronica to now time estimate it would make this easier. (If you're not too busy).

I'm about to go into a shipping overload, but Sam and Claire as sister in laws would be about as worrisome as Marten and Clinton. Unless preteens bring out Claire's maternal instincts. Still should be fun
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Nov 2014, 16:54
She's talked about wanting to bring the gift of knowledge to the younger generation through the power of libraries. Mentorial is probably a better word than maternal.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 13 Nov 2014, 16:55
She could have both, but I think in this context you're probably closer to the truth than I
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 13 Nov 2014, 17:11
 I can't recall if Sam's scared anyone with reptiles. I mean, she's made people jump pulling them out of nowhere, but I mean like pulling out a snake in front of someone scared of snakes.

 Because  :claireface: would be the perfect victim.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Nov 2014, 17:18
Why would she be scared of snakes? She's tough. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2538)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 17:27
I wouldn't say they're going to be siblings soon... actually if April could give us a Jim/Veronica to now time estimate it would make this easier. (If you're not too busy).

I believe that the "Passage of time in QC..." thread's collective best guess is that "today" is the Tuesday after Labor Day, and that Veronica's date with Jim was the previous Wednesday.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 13 Nov 2014, 17:31
I wouldn't say they're going to be siblings soon... actually if April could give us a Jim/Veronica to now time estimate it would make this easier. (If you're not too busy).

I believe that the "Passage of time in QC..." thread's collective best guess is that "today" is the Tuesday after Labor Day, and that Veronica's date with Jim was the previous Wednesday.

Thank you AprilArcus for a speedy and succinct answer. So yes, I believe Veronica and Jim have a little ways to go before marriage.
(Wow has it really been that short a time in comic time?!)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 17:52
So yes, I believe Veronica and Jim have a little ways to go before marriage.

Mind you, she decided to move from California on their first (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2705) date.  And she can just feel (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2385) herself getting older.  Might be sooner than you think.

(Wow has it really been that short a time in comic time?!)

It's been a little over two months since Claire met Marten.  Comic time must exist in a Spin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(novel))-style time envelope.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 18:12
It's been a little over two months since Claire met Marten.  Comic time must exist in a Spin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(novel))-style time envelope.

It feels like they've known each other about that long to me; do you disagree?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 18:20
It's been a little over two months since Claire met Marten.  Comic time must exist in a Spin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(novel))-style time envelope.

It feels like they've known each other about that long to me; do you disagree?

Not a bit - I was just noting that the passage of two months has taken nearly as many years in Outside time.

Edited to add:  That's an estimate, of course - I'm not sure if there's a way to tie comic numbers to the dates they were posted except by approximation.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoutfellow on 13 Nov 2014, 18:37
If my calculations (via a trawl of the forum archives) are correct, the comic in which Marten met Claire appeared on June 6, 2012 - so a little over two years, yes.

(Edited. The first version of this post said "June 8, 2010". Not sure how I got that figure....)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Nov 2014, 18:41
Odd, that - the copyright on the bottom of the comic indicates 2012, so I'd thought at most two.  Huh.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Stoutfellow on 13 Nov 2014, 18:42
Sorry, I goofed - it was 2012.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 19:38
I think Jeph confirmed that the story takes place in comic time. It's both "now" and 2006 in the QC universe. AI are (recently) legal people, and the technological singularity just happened. Also, some bands you never heard of put out albums (making it impossible for them to be the best band alive).

While Jeph's comment was somewhat tongue in cheek, the comic supports what he said. Marten appears to have been born close to the beginning of his parents marriage. They got together in the "70s" with certain elements indicating it was the late 70s.  Jeph said, in his AM A, that Marten was based on himself, and followed his experience from the beginning of the strip until the end of strip 2. Marten's age is about right for that.

Hanners's Mac looks like a fairly modern Mac OS (it gets hard to tell), and "press enter to search" rolled out in 2009 suggesting that it isn't 2006 in the comic, even though it is. I believe Angus's and Claire's cars represent bodystyles that weren't available in 2006. I'm going to bet the new music releases were current at the time the references were made.

It's September 2006 and September 2014 at the same time in the QC verse. In a few months it will probably be September 2015, but not. Unless October happens before December ends.

The preceding sentence was the entire point of this post.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 20:23
It's easy once you get the hang of it. Thank your lucky stars you aren't trying to pick apart the timeline of the Marvel Universe, because that takes some real mastery of space, time, cognitive dissonance and fannish attention to detail. Check at this masterpiece of cultural hermeneutics by Rachel Edidin (http://www.rachelandmiles.com/xmen/) on today's episode (http://www.intoitpodcast.com/podcast/2014/11/13/into-it-4-x-men-and-marvel-continuity-with-rachel-edidin) of Elle Collins podcast "Into It":

Quote
Elle: And I feel like that has to resolve the whole All New X-Men thing, which we haven't talked about — which we need to talk about.

Rachel: Oh god. Okay. Let's talk about All New X-Men.

Elle: So All New X-Men (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-New_X-Men) is a book where the original five X-men from the Silver Age (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Age_of_Comic_Books), which is Jean Grey / Marvel Girl, Cyclops, Angel, Beast and Iceman are pulled out of the past by the Beast of the present day — so they're like 16 years old — and they're pulled into their future, which is like the Marvel Universe that we're used to, where the current Jean Grey is dead (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_X_(comics)) and the current Cyclops is a fugitive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_vs._X-Men) and maybe a terrorist, and I'm not even going to go into the current Angel (http://marvel.wikia.com/Dark_Angel_Saga). So it's basically like the old story where a superhero team gets pulled into a bleak, apocalyptic future (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Future_Past), except their bleak apocalyptic future—

Rachel: Is our present!

Elle: —which I think is a great way to do that story.

Rachel: Yeah! One of the things I find fascinating about it is that I cannot place the original X-men chronologically anymore. The versions that exist in this future are obviously visually informed by the versions from the '60s, and narratively, but they're more directly informed by the versions from X-Men: Season One (http://www.newsarama.com/8209-x-men-season-one-aims-for-new-readers-with-old-characters.html), which is a standalone graphic novel by Dennis Hopeless (http://www.dennishopeless.com) that sets those stories in a modern context. But at the same time they're unfamiliar with— there's a great scene fairly early on when teenage Cyclops is wondering whether something happened to the water, because now there's all this bottled water in stores. Which, y'know, anytime from the early '90s— so they got him from before the early '90s at least?

(http://i.imgur.com/I3RDzIJ.jpg)

Elle: Yeah.

Rachel: I'm trying to think of what my cornerstones for that are. When did "Heathers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathers)" come out?

Elle: Heathers came out I think in '88.

Rachel: 'cause at least at that point bottled water was a thing, but it's used in the movie to specifically code a character as gay, which means that it hadn't entered the full mainstream at that point.

(http://i.imgur.com/mpTjM0m.gif)

Elle: My God, that was some pop culture detective work.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: celticgeek on 13 Nov 2014, 20:30

Edited to add:  That's an estimate, of course - I'm not sure if there's a way to tie comic numbers to the dates they were posted except by approximation.

I have the posted dates associated with comic numbers starting from comic Number 1258.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 13 Nov 2014, 20:55
On the subject of timelines, I love how we as fans care about it and try to make sense of it, yet from the writer's point of view the rule is usually "it serves the purpose of the plot" and unless a time piece, its mostly irrelevant and our suspension of disbelief ends up having to be "just go with it". So long as its self consistent of course. Which so far, it has been

On other news, still no comic :(
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 21:07
I believe Angus's and Claire's cars represent bodystyles that weren't available in 2006.

Claire appears to drive a Mazda 3 hatchback (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2378), which came out in the '04 model year. Dale drives an unidentifiable gray four-door sedan (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2496). Tai drives a white SUV with a roof rack (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1916). When did we see Angus's car?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Nov 2014, 21:12
When did we see Angus's car?

The lake house. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2292)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Nov 2014, 21:24
Almost but not quite a Prius?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Estron on 13 Nov 2014, 21:29
Well, that tears it.  Jacques has been eaten by an allosaurus.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stephber on 13 Nov 2014, 21:34
Almost but not quite a Prius?

Ford Focus, maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 13 Nov 2014, 21:35
Well, that tears it.  Jacques has been eaten by an allosaurus.

has he mentioned anything on his twitter?

It sucks but I'm sure he has a reason for the delay. He's not the kind to leave us hanging without a good and/or reasonable reason.
That said, hope he is ok,
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Nov 2014, 21:38
Almost but not quite a Prius?

Ford Focus, maybe?
Close

Ford Fiesta
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c9/2011_Ford_Fiesta_S_sedan_front_--_07-10-2010.jpg)
Introduced in 2010
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Nov 2014, 21:42
Well, that tears it.  Jacques has been eaten by an allosaurus.

He probably just had some bad cheese dip during D&D night that gave him explosive diarrhea. Which he then tried to plug with a D20 but it got lost in there, resulting in a call to yelling bird to come pull it out. Same old same old.



Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: stephber on 13 Nov 2014, 21:47
Well, that tears it.  Jacques has been eaten by an allosaurus.

has he mentioned anything on his twitter?

It sucks but I'm sure he has a reason for the delay. He's not the kind to leave us hanging without a good and/or reasonable reason.
That said, hope he is ok,

I'd like to think he was waiting for my birthday to roll around to post the comic....
....but I do hope Jeph's alright. Although, Yelling Bird atop the CN Tower would be amusing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 13 Nov 2014, 21:58

I'd like to think he was waiting for my birthday to roll around to post the comic....
....but I do hope Jeph's alright. Although, Yelling Bird atop the CN Tower would be amusing.

Alternatively, he lost track of time, or fell asleep, or his D&D session went longer than usual. Or maybe he IS waiting for your birthday, which btw, I'm assuming is tomorrow so happy birthday in advance :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: explicit on 13 Nov 2014, 22:01
Well, that tears it.  Jacques has been eaten by an allosaurus.

He probably just got seriously injured. I like to think he got eaten, fashioned a shank out of his glasses, and stabbed his way out. Also, probably got into wacky adventures with all sorts of mystical creatures. Though, those are kinda separate things.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Nov 2014, 22:12
Or maybe he met someone sexy?  Think good thoughts, people, good thoughts.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 22:27
Dale drives a 2011 or newer Ford Fiesta.

It could be a weird Prius or a Civic. But the large hump in the center of the dash best matches the Fiesta.  The hump first appears in the 2009 model, but becomes more pronounced in 2011.
EDIT EDIT: The center hump in Dale's car is consistent with the same feature in Angus's. It's a Fiesta.

Claire's Mazda is a good match for any 3 from 2004 on, because the 3 doesn't look like that from the rear. The hatch bisects the tail light groups and that's pretty consistent for every model. Newer models seem to have a sport package that might look like Claire's, but only because the entire backup light assembly is on the hatch, with the indicators and break lights on the frame.

There no obvious clues as to the model of Tai's SUV. It appears to be a crossover.

EDIT: Tai appears to drive a Suzuki Forenza Wagon. That could be anything from 05 to 08, iirc
On the subject of timelines, I love how we as fans care about it and try to make sense of it...
I don't know what you mean.

<.<
>.>
Or maybe he met someone sexy?  Think good thoughts, people, good thoughts.

No! Dooooooooooom
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 13 Nov 2014, 22:29
Whatever it is I'm certain he is learning from it. Of course his first training was in how to learn, every experience carries it's lesson etc.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: explicit on 13 Nov 2014, 22:49
Or maybe he met someone sexy?  Think good thoughts, people, good thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtcSYPjJbgg

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 23:13
As far as I can tell from Twitter, he may be in Toronto for a concert. If so, it is unlikely that there will be a comic today.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 23:21
That would tie up all the speculation for me. The pacing dropped because Jeph's hurting.

Take care bro.


...


*sigh* Okay.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110616132853/questionablecontent/images/c/cb/Bros.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 13 Nov 2014, 23:39
As far as I can tell from Twitter, he may be in Toronto for a concert. If so, it is unlikely that there will be a comic today.

Orrr... The Twitter photos from his convention photo album.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Nov 2014, 23:52
And he may have fallen asleep because of the change of wake-cycle, and the whole issue that may have been triggered at customs. Perhaps he also misplaced some of his meds, and upon taking them at home, they knocked him out?

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Nov 2014, 23:53
I'm still hoping that Jeph has simply overslept or something. It's not like him to not even post an explanation.

Warning - while you were typing you were ninja'd. You may wish to become a pirate.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 13 Nov 2014, 23:53
As far as I can tell from Twitter, he may be in Toronto for a concert. If so, it is unlikely that there will be a comic today.

Orrr... The Twitter photos from his convention photo album.
Agreed. It's just not like him to make no comment on the update situation. Since the schedule is Monday to Friday, he has all day tomorrow. Maybe it's nothing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 14 Nov 2014, 02:35
The cars of Questionable Content:

Amanda's rental car: Probably a 2000-2005 Ford Taurus (http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbimages/zgas/models/id/10624/2001%20ford%20taurus%20rear%20%C2%BE.jpg) (well, 2000-2007, but the comic was from 2004), shown in 175 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=175)
Amanda: 1999.5-2005.0 Volkswagen Jetta (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Volkswagen-Jetta-MK4-1.8T-Wolfsburg.jpg) (VW used to be bad about introducing a new model while the old one was still in production and part-way through a model year, and that's how the enthusiast community deals with it, half model years), shown and stated to be a Jetta in 609 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=609)
Angus: 2011-2013 Ford Fiesta hatch (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/2011_Ford_Fiesta_SES_hatchback_--_02-18-2011.jpg), shown in 2292 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2292)
Claire: 2011-2014 Mazda2 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/Ss5HxkUVkHI/AAAAAAACIqA/OmSAsTGHqUA/s1600/2010-MAZDA2-Facelift-3.jpg), shown in 2378 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2378)
Dale: Another Ford Fiesta hatch, we don't see enough details to tell whether it's a 2011-2013 or 2014-2015, shown in 2496 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2496)
Raven: 1998-2005 Volkswagen New Beetle TDI (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/1998-2005_Volkswagen_New_Beetle_--_03-24-2012.JPG), shown in 423 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=423), stated as a Bug (not that it was necessary) in 451 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=451), implied to be a TDI in 621 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=621)
Tai: 2003-2005 Volkswagen Jetta Wagon (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/%2701-%2703_Volkswagen_Jetta_1.8T_Wagon_%28Front%29.JPG) (and an interior shot (http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/47303827.jpg), and the sunglass holder (http://fsjbrutus.com/jetta/images/sunglassholder2.jpg) that gives it away as at least a 2003), shown in 1916 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1916)

Hopefully Jeph's OK!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 14 Nov 2014, 02:51
The Forenza has the same internal configuration. The kicker would be a shot of the full dash, or a clear shot of the center console. That said, it's probably a Jetta. Good spot on the Mazda 2. If the 14-15 Fiesta is a model year, and thus rolled out in late 2013, then Dale's might be one. 2496 is over 300 strips ago, so it was the middle of 2013, or before, when it was drawn. (if it rolled out in 2014, then Dale's probably isn't one)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 14 Nov 2014, 02:53
Hands up who wants to see Claire teaching Marten to drive and proving that she has a little Dom in her when it comes to being a teacher?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 14 Nov 2014, 03:06
Airbag cutline and door handles don't match on the Forenza: http://www.gminsidenews.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10067/car%20056.jpg Compare to the Jetta interior image I posted.

Everything I've posted is a model year (and using US-market generations), although the 99.5-05.0 Jetta is an enthusiast designation, not an official one. (The official one is 1999 New Jetta, 2000-2005 Jetta (the 2005.5 being the New Jetta again).)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MrNumbers on 14 Nov 2014, 03:19
Hands up who wants to see Claire teaching Marten to drive and proving that she has a little Dom in her when it comes to being a teacher?

Argh.

My arm shot up so fast I think I pulled a muscle...

... and punched my ceiling fan.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 14 Nov 2014, 03:21
Was your hand chopped off? You could get a Clintonesque robot hand!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hakko504 on 14 Nov 2014, 03:42
The cars of Questionable Content:

Amanda's rental car: Probably a 2000-2005 Ford Taurus (http://www.carfolio.com/images/dbimages/zgas/models/id/10624/2001%20ford%20taurus%20rear%20%C2%BE.jpg) (well, 2000-2007, but the comic was from 2004), shown in 175 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=175)
Amanda: 1999.5-2005.0 Volkswagen Jetta (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Volkswagen-Jetta-MK4-1.8T-Wolfsburg.jpg) (VW used to be bad about introducing a new model while the old one was still in production and part-way through a model year, and that's how the enthusiast community deals with it, half model years), shown and stated to be a Jetta in 609 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=609)
Angus: 2011-2013 Ford Fiesta hatch (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/2011_Ford_Fiesta_SES_hatchback_--_02-18-2011.jpg), shown in 2292 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2292)
Claire: 2011-2014 Mazda2 (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/Ss5HxkUVkHI/AAAAAAACIqA/OmSAsTGHqUA/s1600/2010-MAZDA2-Facelift-3.jpg), shown in 2378 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2378)
Dale: Another Ford Fiesta hatch, we don't see enough details to tell whether it's a 2011-2013 or 2014-2015, shown in 2496 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2496)
Raven: 1998-2005 Volkswagen New Beetle TDI (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/1998-2005_Volkswagen_New_Beetle_--_03-24-2012.JPG), shown in 423 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=423), stated as a Bug (not that it was necessary) in 451 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=451), implied to be a TDI in 621 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=621)
Tai: 2003-2005 Volkswagen Jetta Wagon (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/%2701-%2703_Volkswagen_Jetta_1.8T_Wagon_%28Front%29.JPG) (and an interior shot (http://images.gtcarlot.com/pictures/47303827.jpg), and the sunglass holder (http://fsjbrutus.com/jetta/images/sunglassholder2.jpg) that gives it away as at least a 2003), shown in 1916 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1916)
Impressive. Nice detective work there. :-o 8-)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MrNumbers on 14 Nov 2014, 04:35
Was your hand chopped off? You could get a Clintonesque robot hand!

Unfortunately, I'm Australian, so my fan was on the maximum setting to deal with our crippling summer heat.

Fortunately, I'm Australian, so I have punched things much more likely to take my hand off and come out of it unharmed -- rather than unarmed.



In all due seriousness, though, AliceGrove hasn't updated either, and Our Jeph and Saviour mentioned with the last update that he'd written Friday's update back then...

But if it's because he's had a bad hit with readjusting to Lexapro, it might just be a case of the braincooties acting up, so fingers crossed he comes out of this feeling human and healthy.

EDIT: It updated! It updated! Ye gods it updated!

He just fell asleep! False alarm!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Taigan on 14 Nov 2014, 05:16
Pre-thanksgiving drama bomb coming soon. My guess: they're at Coffee of Doom when Clinton finds out about Marten and Claire, then he says something that outs her in front of everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 14 Nov 2014, 05:19
The impish side of Claire is something I've been waiting to see again.  Sweet.

Pre-thanksgiving drama bomb coming soon. My guess: they're at Coffee of Doom when Clinton finds out about Marten and Claire, then he says something that outs her in front of everyone.

I don't think the fact that Claire is a trans woman will be part of any drama we have - Jeph has made it pretty clear he's going to steer clear of that.  We already have two drama bombs ticking; either would work for Turkey time.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 14 Nov 2014, 05:23
I think that Marten and Claire are slowly putting together the pieces. There really does seem to be a parental conspiracy of some sort going on here, doesn't there?  :wink:

The last panel is no great surprise. We know that Claire loves teasing and insulting her little brother (like most older siblings on Earth). So, seeing if she can make his temple veins pop out by introducing her boyfriend (and implying activities that haven't occurred yet) will probably be a diabolical entertainment for her.

So... Archive addicts! Have we seen this diner/restaurant before? My hazy memory suggests that it isn't The Hidden Bakery, which has ochre walls, IIRC.

EDIT: It updated! It updated! Ye gods it updated!

He just fell asleep! False alarm!

Yeah, I did wonder. He's had a bad time and sometimes you just can't keep your eyes open.

No worries, Jeph. Thanks for doing it anyway!  :-)

Pre-thanksgiving drama bomb coming soon. My guess: they're at Coffee of Doom when Clinton finds out about Marten and Claire, then he says something that outs her in front of everyone.

I don't think the fact that Claire is a trans woman will be part of any drama we have - Jeph has made it pretty clear he's going to steer clear of that.  We already have two drama bombs ticking; either would work for Turkey time.

If there is a confrontation with Clinton in CoD, my feeling is that he will end up humiliating himself in front of the girls (especially Hannelore). I can see him trying to tap-dance around Claire's secret but ends up saying nothing particularly revealing (and that just makes him lose even more credibility). Clinton will end up throwing lots of wild accusations at Marten, Dora barring him from her shop and him storming out like a child half his age denied a treat.

I wonder if, is there is a 'bomb', it will have something to do with Claire's father and his mistress. That's just a guess though.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 14 Nov 2014, 05:40
It pleases me that Clinton doesn't know yet - it's s a great opportunity for both drama and humour. I just hope Marten can survive the robot hand's murder mode...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: anahata on 14 Nov 2014, 05:47
he will end up humiliating himself

No change there, then.

In answer to Marten's "what about your brother?"...  we've already heard "Maybe you're not such a bad guy after all" (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2325) from Clinton so though he may be shocked, he can't 100% disapprove. But he won't like the undermining of his self-appointed role as his sister's keeper.

And as others have said, lovely to see Claire in more confident "tease" mode and expecting to be on top of the situation for a change.

And to see Jeph back. Alice has been updated too, as I expect everybody's noticed by now.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Neko_Ali on 14 Nov 2014, 05:49
I predict: Clinton will take the news straight faced and say something like 'Well, if it had to be someone, I guess you aren't the worst.' Then shake hands with Marten and try to get into one of those macho 'crush the other guy's grip' things. Unfortunately, it's his flesh hand, and he just winds up embarrassing both of them while Claire looks disgusted at him.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 14 Nov 2014, 06:04
Or worse, he tries to do that with the robo hand and still gets pwnd.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 14 Nov 2014, 06:06
Or worse, he tries to do that with the robo hand and still gets pwnd.

I've long thought that his robo-hand has a squeeze force limiter to stop him from accidentally damaging anything (such as people). It ends up as a bonding moment with Marten, who agrees with Clinton that it sucks to have a robot hand and not be allowed to crush peoples' bones into powder.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Nov 2014, 06:07
Prediction: Clinton becomes indignant. Asks Claire if Marten tried to do anything weird with her. Claire gets angry and says (per BenRG) there's nothing weird about anything she might choose to do with her boyfriend. That to suggest it would be werid is insulting, and whatever they do or don't do is none of Clinton's business. Followed by Clinton turning red and Marten reacting like Tai did when Dora called her 'my girlfriend.' And then maybe she touches Marten's butt because dammit there has not been enough butt humor lately.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 14 Nov 2014, 06:12
Or worse, he tries to do that with the robo hand and still gets pwnd.

I've long thought that his robo-hand has a squeeze force limiter to stop him from accidentally damaging anything (such as people).

It has murder mode. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2425)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 14 Nov 2014, 06:17
Or worse, he tries to do that with the robo hand and still gets pwnd.

I've long thought that his robo-hand has a squeeze force limiter to stop him from accidentally damaging anything (such as people).

It has murder mode. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2425)

He says it has a murder mode but I'm wondering if that's a long-running in-joke between the Augustus siblings.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 14 Nov 2014, 07:18
The cars of Questionable Content

wow. nice work!

2834: This is a lot better! Really glad to see Claire back in character.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 14 Nov 2014, 07:26
Raven: 1998-2005 Volkswagen New Beetle TDI (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/1998-2005_Volkswagen_New_Beetle_--_03-24-2012.JPG), shown in 423 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=423), stated as a Bug (not that it was necessary) in 451 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=451), implied to be a TDI in 621 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=621)

It's not a TDI, I have a 30 year old Mercedes that I used to run on B100 bio-diesel, and the type of remark she made always come from people with gasoline powered cars. (Because they don't know that making bio-diesel is a lot cooler than just having a unicorn fart into the car's fuel tank)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 14 Nov 2014, 07:37
...and can I just say I think it's frigging cool that Marten pulled out Claire's chair for her?

I see that so rarely anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 14 Nov 2014, 07:43
...and can I just say I think it's frigging cool that Marten pulled out Claire's chair for her?

I see that so rarely anymore.

I think that Marten and Sven are sort of distorted reflections of each other. Sven has a lot of confidence and animal magnetism. This lets him pick up easily but he doesn't have the instincts to woo and keep a girl. Marten, on the other hand, is a nice guy, is immensely polite and has all the old-world courtly instincts. Whilst he isn't likely to have girls hanging off of him drooling with lust, he is excellent at being their friends and touching them on such a level that, if he wants to move on to a more intimate relationship, they jump at the chance to be with such a nice guy.

It was pretty clear with the tourniquet incident that he is physically attractive enough that even women in committed relationships would prefer him to walk around without a shirt on. :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 14 Nov 2014, 08:05
...and can I just say I think it's frigging cool that Marten pulled out Claire's chair for her?

I see that so rarely anymore.

It's perceptive of him to realize that Claire would feel charmed by that kind of move, not patronized.

I think that Marten and Sven are sort of distorted reflections of each other. Sven has a lot of confidence and animal magnetism. This lets him pick up easily but he doesn't have the instincts to woo and keep a girl. Marten, on the other hand, is a nice guy, is immensely polite and has all the old-world courtly instincts. Whilst he isn't likely to have girls hanging off of him drooling with lust, he is excellent at being their friends and touching them on such a level that, if he wants to move on to a more intimate relationship, they jump at the chance to be with such a nice guy.

It was pretty clear with the tourniquet incident that he is physically attractive enough that even women in committed relationships would prefer him to walk around without a shirt on. :wink:

Marten is attractive and has no trouble commanding women's attention. He had a year-long relationship with Dora, caught Cosette's eye during it, was single for about a month before dating Padma, and single again for about two months before asking Claire out. Faye is the exception to the pattern, not the rule.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 14 Nov 2014, 08:08
Marten is attractive and has no trouble commanding women's attention.

Or men's (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2321).

It's perceptive of him to realize that Claire would feel charmed by that kind of move, not patronized.

Agreed. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 14 Nov 2014, 08:10
It's not a TDI, I have a 30 year old Mercedes that I used to run on B100 bio-diesel, and the type of remark she made always come from people with gasoline powered cars. (Because they don't know that making bio-diesel is a lot cooler than just having a unicorn fart into the car's fuel tank)
Hrm.

Although, she brought up biodiesel out of the blue. It could be that she runs on petrodiesel but has thought of running B20 from a pump or something.

Then again, the newspost on that comic scares me, given how many TDIs have been ruined at the hands of Greasecar. And, WVO isn't biodiesel. It can be used to make biodiesel, but it isn't biodiesel. ;) Annoyingly, even some people that actually use WVO in their engines don't understand that distinction...

(My car's a 99.5 Golf TDI, for what it's worth. And, I run on commercial B20, except for one trip a year where I pass a station that sells B99 for cheaper than petrodiesel, so I fill up there every time I pass it.)

Of course, my suspicion is that most New Beetle owners don't even know what "TDI" stands for, and bought a 2.0 or maybe 1.8T instead. And, this might be the TDIClubber mindset, but among all the TDI owners I know, if anyone says "buy a tank of gas", there's a chorus of "a tank of fuel!"

So, yeah, I'm not sure on the engine any more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: FunkyTuba on 14 Nov 2014, 10:49
He had a year-long relationship with Dora, caught Cosette's eye during it, was single for about a month before dating Padma, and single again for about two months before asking Claire out. Faye is the exception to the pattern, not the rule.

Totally agree, April, and here's a general comment about perspective:

Anyone who is concerned or frustrated about the pacing of the comic, Please, go back and read the last 500 strips in one go. (or better, do the whole thing).

If this piques your interest about timeline and you want to get down and dirty, April's Passage Of Time thread is amazing and relevant.

But please don't slam Jeph for pacing without first checking out previous instances where he has microscoped a storyline (or even just a meal... jeez) to give us exposition.

I think you'll find that every time he's done it, we end up with needed pieces of content that weave back into the whole work.

Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: HeavyP on 14 Nov 2014, 11:34
I just want to say that Claire's expression in panel 2 just makes this comic (and really the last few weeks) for me.  That girl is HAPPY.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalillama on 14 Nov 2014, 11:54
Or maybe he met someone sexy?  Think good thoughts, people, good thoughts.
I'm pretty sure Jeph is married and monogamous, so I'm thinking not.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 14 Nov 2014, 11:57
Or maybe he met someone sexy?  Think good thoughts, people, good thoughts.

I'm pretty sure Jeph is married and monogamous, so I'm thinking not.

Jeph and Cristi separated at the beginning of this year, according to Wikipedia. However, according to his happy Twitter posts, he's since met someone new.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 14 Nov 2014, 12:23
So long as Clinton doesn't set his hand on Marten, things should go well

If not, there's always a Sledge Hammer.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 14 Nov 2014, 12:27
So long as Clinton doesn't set his hand on Marten, things should go well

Actually, if it's set on indecisive mode, that may not be a bad thing.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalillama on 14 Nov 2014, 12:32
Jeph and Cristi separated at the beginning of this year, according to Wikipedia. However, according to his happy Twitter posts, he's since met someone new.
Shows how much attention I've been paying, doesn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: hedgie on 14 Nov 2014, 13:15
So long as Clinton doesn't set his hand on Marten, things should go well

Actually, if it's set on indecisive mode, that may not be a bad thing.
And if it's set to special "alone time" mode, things could get *very* awkward.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 14 Nov 2014, 13:17
So long as Clinton doesn't set his hand on Marten, things should go well

Actually, if it's set on indecisive mode, that may not be a bad thing.
And if it's set to special "alone time" mode, things could get *very* awkward.

Especially since he didn't opt for the protective covering.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 14 Nov 2014, 13:44
My prediction:  Claire finds Clinton working on something, and tries to rile him up with the news.  Clinton keeps working and doesn't react.  He finally says "When mom told me you had a boyfriend, I asked if it was Marten.  He's a good guy, and you've been obsessed with him since you started that job, so stop being such a spaz about it," and he goes back to work. 

Claire then turns to Marten, who  says "Obsessed, huh?" with a big smile.  Cue Claire-ultimate-red-face.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 14 Nov 2014, 14:09
I can't imagine Clinton giving a reasonable and appropriate response.

I think he's perfectly capable of, and will do, the right thing. But he'll do it in the wrong way, or for the wrong reasons, and he'll make it awkward. That's what he does.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Endellion on 14 Nov 2014, 17:28
I can't imagine Clinton giving a reasonable and appropriate response.

I think he's perfectly capable of, and will do, the right thing. But he'll do it in the wrong way, or for the wrong reasons, and he'll make it awkward. That's what he does.

Panel 3 of this comic shows that pretty much (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2431)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Nov 2014, 17:37
Whether he embarrasses himself or Claire more when he gets the news, I also can't see Clinton outing her, even accidentally.  Back when they encountered each other at the coffee shop (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2277), he could've easily slipped and echoed Claire's "I'm not creepy, he's creepy!" with the exact same pronoun.  The fact that he didn't misgender her even when surprised/annoyed/under some stress is pretty reassuring.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 14 Nov 2014, 17:42
Doing some surfing on subsequent strips, at that point in time, of all the meatspace, only Jeff knew that Claire was trans. I imagine he didn't want to bring up that topic in such a crude way.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Nov 2014, 17:45
My prediction:  Claire finds Clinton working on something, and tries to rile him up with the news.  Clinton keeps working and doesn't react.  He finally says "When mom told me you had a boyfriend, I asked if it was Marten.  He's a good guy, and you've been obsessed with him since you started that job, so stop being such a spaz about it," and he goes back to work. 

Claire then turns to Marten, who  says "Obsessed, huh?" with a big smile.  Cue Claire-ultimate-red-face.

That would be perfect (APPLAUSE)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 14 Nov 2014, 17:48
My prediction:  Claire finds Clinton working on something, and tries to rile him up with the news.  Clinton keeps working and doesn't react.  He finally says "When mom told me you had a boyfriend, I asked if it was Marten.  He's a good guy, and you've been obsessed with him since you started that job, so stop being such a spaz about it," and he goes back to work. 

Claire then turns to Marten, who  says "Obsessed, huh?" with a big smile.  Cue Claire-ultimate-red-face.

That would be great.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Nov 2014, 17:51
I think that Marten and Claire are slowly putting together the pieces. There really does seem to be a parental conspiracy of some sort going on here, doesn't there?  :wink:
Yup.

Quote
..seeing if she can make his temple veins pop out by introducing her boyfriend (and implying activities that haven't occurred yet) will probably be a diabolical entertainment for her.
"Well I'll leave you up to your business. Good Night"
He wouldn't be the only one making such assumptions.

I'm surprised no-one has picked up on that before.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Nov 2014, 17:57
She's talked about wanting to bring the gift of knowledge to the younger generation through the power of libraries. Mentorial is probably a better word than maternal.
I only found out my nickname at ADFA (Australian Defence Force Academy) many years later, from a former student.

"Mum"

*SIGH* Fitting.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: SubaruStephen on 14 Nov 2014, 18:00
That would be perfect (APPLAUSE)

It would also be out of character for him, he's very protective of his big sister and tries to be all Alpha to anyone he sees that could potentially hurt her.

I think he'd be: "I knew she liked you, but if you break her heart, Martin, I'll max out the hydraulics in my hand and crush your skull like an egg. And then I'll go after your guitars."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Nov 2014, 18:11
She's talked about wanting to bring the gift of knowledge to the younger generation through the power of libraries. Mentorial is probably a better word than maternal.
I only found out my nickname at ADFA (Australian Defence Force Academy) many years later, from a former student.

"Mum"
Mum? Like Veronica? OMG you were the defense force dominatrix! #goodnameforaband


Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 14 Nov 2014, 19:13
That would be perfect (APPLAUSE)

It would also be out of character for him, he's very protective of his big sister and tries to be all Alpha to anyone he sees that could potentially hurt her.

I think he'd be: "I knew she liked you, but if you break her heart, Martin, I'll max out the hydraulics in my hand and crush your skull like an egg. And then I'll go after your guitars."

I disagree that it would be out of character for him.  He's met Marten, he's heard from Calire's mouth that she feels safe with him, he's seen first-hand a time when Marten rushed to defend a female friend from a creep when Marten defended Hanners from Clinton, and he's seen Marten be good to his sister with his own eyes.  He's pretty much wholly vetted the guy at this point.  There's no reason for him to flip out or threaten Marten, especially if Clairemom tells him ahead of time and he has his chance to overreact to it off-panel. 
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 14 Nov 2014, 19:27
No reason, maybe. But reason's not all that's in play here. Maybe especially if you're the little brother who thinks there's something to prove.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: AprilArcus on 14 Nov 2014, 20:00
It would be a little OOC, in a good way. He's too one-note; I think it would be nice for him to surprise us.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Nov 2014, 20:12
My prediction:  Claire finds Clinton working on something, and tries to rile him up with the news.  Clinton keeps working and doesn't react.  He finally says "When mom told me you had a boyfriend, I asked if it was Marten.  He's a good guy, and you've been obsessed with him since you started that job, so stop being such a spaz about it," and he goes back to work. 

Claire then turns to Marten, who  says "Obsessed, huh?" with a big smile.  Cue Claire-ultimate-red-face.

I think he'd be: "I knew she liked you, but if you break her heart, Martin, I'll max out the hydraulics in my hand and crush your skull like an egg. And then I'll go after your guitars."

Can't it be both?  To Claire: "Marten's a good guy," etc., then later, privately to Marten: "But if you break her heart..." Although I think just promising to crush his guitars would be enough of a threat; Marten would certainly take that seriously.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 14 Nov 2014, 21:31
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 14 Nov 2014, 21:34
He'll make his Guitar gently weep
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Nov 2014, 21:41
He'll make his Guitar gently weep

You win the thread.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 14 Nov 2014, 21:46
He'll make his Guitar gently weep
Bravo. *clap clap* Bravo. I'd tip my hat if I wore hats.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Nov 2014, 21:49
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.

Yeah, you're right.  My mistake.

Oh.  Um.  Just had a thought.  A bad thought.  A thought I shouldn't have had.  And that was: Jeph should introduce Clinton to Veronica.  A verbal upbraiding from her, and he'll probably never be a creepy overbearing jerk again.

As a Hypothetical QC Character Meeting, it's kind of a terrifying thought.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 14 Nov 2014, 21:55
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.

Yeah, you're right.  My mistake.

Oh.  Um.  Just had a thought.  A bad thought.  A thought I shouldn't have had.  And that was: Jeph should introduce Clinton to Veronica.  A verbal upbraiding from her, and he'll probably never be a creepy overbearing jerk again.

As a Hypothetical QC Character Meeting, it's kind of a terrifying thought.

Actually, he's also lucky he's never gotten the Full Hanners. His hand would probably skitter off in fear, and the rest of him wouldn't fare well either.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 14 Nov 2014, 21:57
Terrifying... for Clinton. Me, I'd be very amused by it happening.

Still on the most recent strip: that mischievous face in panel 4!

preemptive edit: So long as nobody ever says to Clinton anything about "the Full Hanners". Knowing him, he'd take that in all the wrong ways and be unprepared to be met with the full measure of wrath.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: badpun on 14 Nov 2014, 22:17
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.
I thought he only traded in his telecaster for the 8 string, that must mean he's still got his 70's SG somewhere...

http://www.questionablecontent.net/2418
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 14 Nov 2014, 22:26
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.
I thought he only traded in his telecaster for the 8 string, that must mean he's still got his 70's SG somewhere...

http://www.questionablecontent.net/2418

The SG belonged to Sven, I thought?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 14 Nov 2014, 22:36
Welcome back dialogue! You have been missed.
Clinton's reaction will be great, I predict that he will break whatever is in Mecha-hand/spit take, then yell for about a panel, then calm himself
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: badpun on 14 Nov 2014, 22:38
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.
I thought he only traded in his telecaster for the 8 string, that must mean he's still got his 70's SG somewhere...

http://www.questionablecontent.net/2418

The SG belonged to Sven, I thought?
Nah Sven was trying to one up marten with his vintage Les Paul when marten was showing off his SG to everyone. IIRC Marten got the money for his SG from winning a better with Hannelore's mum?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Aziraphale on 14 Nov 2014, 22:42
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.
I thought he only traded in his telecaster for the 8 string, that must mean he's still got his 70's SG somewhere...

http://www.questionablecontent.net/2418

The SG belonged to Sven, I thought?
Nah Sven was trying to one up marten with his vintage Les Paul when marten was showing off his SG to everyone. IIRC Marten got the money for his SG from winning a better with Hannelore's mum?

Yeah, you're right. I'd forgotten that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 14 Nov 2014, 23:05
 I predicting not so much hearing about it and taking it poorly, but him seeing them first and thinking Marten is being a creeper when he touches his sister.

And then rocket punch because I will have my rocket punch.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 14 Nov 2014, 23:12
And then rocket punch because I will have my rocket punch.

I really want his hand to do the Mega-Man thing
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: explicit on 15 Nov 2014, 00:52
Do you think murder handing will be involved? Murdanding? Handuring? That one sounds like an intense HJ...

So many ridiculous things can happen, I'm hoping for alleged sexual harassment and I pray that's the only time I ever think that again (Clinton thinking Marten is doing something Claire would object to cause he doesn't know they're dating... nothing actually bad, don't beat me with shoes).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Blackbird on 15 Nov 2014, 01:05
Alternate idea for more wackiness: Clinton finds out from Clairemom that Claire is dating someone, confronts Claire in his overbearing manner, and pushes Claire to the defensive where she refuses to tell him anything.  Clinton then goes to Marten for help "talking sense into" Claire. Marten plays along and then Claire does too, because she loves that Clinton sees Marten as someone who'll help him protect her. Hijinks ensue.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 15 Nov 2014, 02:25
Mum? Like Veronica? OMG you were the defense force dominatrix! #goodnameforaband
Drink warning next time please. It's been a long time since I burst out laughing at a keyboard.  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: osaka on 15 Nov 2014, 02:46
Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.

Yeah, you're right.  My mistake.

Oh.  Um.  Just had a thought.  A bad thought.  A thought I shouldn't have had.  And that was: Jeph should introduce Clinton to Veronica.  A verbal upbraiding from her, and he'll probably never be a creepy overbearing jerk again.

As a Hypothetical QC Character Meeting, it's kind of a terrifying thought.

Actually, he's also lucky he's never gotten the Full Hanners. His hand would probably skitter off in fear, and the rest of him wouldn't fare well either.

To the Veronica comment, next thing we know Clinton's changed his legal name to Clarice. When asked why, he simply responds "your mother was pretty convincent Marten".

And to the Full Hanners comment, on the Hannerstorm discussion thread it's been established that it has healing powers (because of sheer destruction and reboot if nothing else). Clinton would probably no longer need his robohand.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: DSL on 15 Nov 2014, 03:55
More like, Clinton's hand would decide it no longer needed him.
HAND: "You have failed me for the last time ..."
CLINTON: "Gakk .."
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Fig on 15 Nov 2014, 05:12
More like, Clinton's hand would decide it no longer needed him.
HAND: "You have failed me for the last time ..."
CLINTON: "Gakk .."

I wonder if the image of Wormtail getting choked by his own hand is intentional because that's the exact image I got in my mind.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 15 Nov 2014, 05:46
Mum? Like Veronica? OMG you were the defense force dominatrix! #goodnameforaband
Drink warning next time please. It's been a long time since I burst out laughing at a keyboard.  :laugh:

Valkygrrl wins the forum.  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 15 Nov 2014, 07:08

Valkygrrl wins the forum.  :clairedoge:

Hastily written...

DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DeDumDum.

*sings*

Puns ride high in the forum tonight,
Not a good joke to be seen.
Called Zoe a dominatrix,
And you've made me your new queen.

The jokes are flying sweeping real comments aside,
And I went with it 'cus I have no pride.

So now you sit and laugh with glee
As Zoe spit-takes because of me.
Conceal Your squeel 'cause now we know,
You like humor low!

Let them flow, let them flow
May the puns come ever more,
Let them flow, let them flow
Post another three or four.

So beware,
'cus they're going to stay.
Now the good jokes end,
Bad puns never bothered me anyway!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: T on 15 Nov 2014, 08:20
And then rocket punch because I will have my rocket punch.
Exploding rocket punch!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: NemoX on 15 Nov 2014, 09:05
Alternate idea for more wackiness: Clinton finds out from Clairemom that Claire is dating someone, confronts Claire in his overbearing manner, and pushes Claire to the defensive where she refuses to tell him anything.  Clinton then goes to Marten for help "talking sense into" Claire. Marten plays along and then Claire does too, because she loves that Clinton sees Marten as someone who'll help him protect her. Hijinks ensue.

Other than the fact he knows Claire likes Marten so he'd still be his first suspect, I like this idea :)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: tragic_pizza on 15 Nov 2014, 09:24

Valkygrrl wins the forum.  :clairedoge:

Hastily written...

DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DeDumDum.

*sings*

Puns ride high in the forum tonight,
Not a good joke to be seen.
Called Zoe a dominatrix,
And you've made me your new queen.

The jokes are flying sweeping real comments aside,
And I went with it 'cus I have no pride.

So now you sit and laugh with glee
As Zoe spit-takes because of me.
Conceal Your squeel 'cause now we know,
You like humor low!

Let them flow, let them flow
May the puns come ever more,
Let them flow, let them flow
Post another three or four.

So beware,
'cus they're going to stay.
Now the good jokes end,
Bad puns never bothered me anyway!

You're my favorite.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kryptoknight on 15 Nov 2014, 10:32

Valkygrrl wins the forum.  :clairedoge:

Hastily written...

DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DeDumDum.

*sings*

Puns ride high in the forum tonight,
Not a good joke to be seen.
Called Zoe a dominatrix,
And you've made me your new queen.

The jokes are flying sweeping real comments aside,
And I went with it 'cus I have no pride.

So now you sit and laugh with glee
As Zoe spit-takes because of me.
Conceal Your squeel 'cause now we know,
You like humor low!

Let them flow, let them flow
May the puns come ever more,
Let them flow, let them flow
Post another three or four.

So beware,
'cus they're going to stay.
Now the good jokes end,
Bad puns never bothered me anyway!

Do we have some kind of trophy for best post ever?  Cuz this one deserves it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 15 Nov 2014, 14:25
As much as I like the idea of Clinton pulling a stone face when Claire tells him, I'm more in favor of seeing Claire step into the driver's seat for a bit.  Blushes are way cute and whatnot, but I prefer impish Claire and Claire with a cocked (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2403) eyebrow (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2431).
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: BenRG on 15 Nov 2014, 14:41
To me, strip 2431 is proof that Clinton fundamentally doesn't like Marten for some reason. His body language is practically sweating resentment towards someone and I can't see why it would be Claire.

I wonder if it's a sort of jealousy - no longer being the #1 guy in Claire's life or something like that.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: MooskiNet on 15 Nov 2014, 14:49
To me, strip 2431 is proof that Clinton fundamentally doesn't like Marten for some reason. His body language is practically sweating resentment towards someone and I can't see why it would be Claire.

I wonder if it's a sort of jealousy - no longer being the #1 guy in Claire's life or something like that.

Perhaps, though I think it more likely that he's watched helplessly as she was hurt by this or that person her entire life, and has completely lost the trust in people that Claire found she was able to give Marten. 

If true, that would mean even grudging acceptance of Marten would be more a matter of waiting for the other shoe to drop than to trust him.  It would also be a growth opportunity of the kind that Jeph appears to love giving his characters.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 15 Nov 2014, 15:08
The more I think about this, the more I think that Claire's plan to bother Clinton about this is likely to backfire catastrophically. Mostly because nothing has happened. There are no storm clouds here. None. We get nothing but squees from all the friends, and now... rather than randomly bumping into Clinton and him being told (the way it's happened for everyone else), it's being talked about as something to happen.

I don't know what form that backfiring will take, but I look at that last panel and in addition to being amused at Claire's impishness, there's an undercurrent of unease. Maybe it's just the "something's gonna happen" thing that was missing for a while there...
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Nov 2014, 16:00
Hannelore, Faye, Tai, Veronica...Who's our next stop on the Marten & Claire Get-Together World Tour?

"Jimbo!" "Dad!" "CLAIRE?" "...Jimbo?"   28 (35.4%)
Steve (Commence arms race!)   8 (10.1%)
Pintsize & Winslow ("It's been militarized!  RUN!")   20 (25.3%)
"...Tai?  Are you FOLLOWING us?" "Just wanted to see which slashfic played out!"   23 (29.1%)

Total Members Voted: 79

Steve loses again.  Maybe Claire will decide she likes Marten's shoulders and/or butt more.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Natswash on 15 Nov 2014, 17:19

Valkygrrl wins the forum.  :clairedoge:

Hastily written...

DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DeDumDum.

*sings*

Puns ride high in the forum tonight,
Not a good joke to be seen.
Called Zoe a dominatrix,
And you've made me your new queen.

The jokes are flying sweeping real comments aside,
And I went with it 'cus I have no pride.

So now you sit and laugh with glee
As Zoe spit-takes because of me.
Conceal Your squeel 'cause now we know,
You like humor low!

Let them flow, let them flow
May the puns come ever more,
Let them flow, let them flow
Post another three or four.

So beware,
'cus they're going to stay.
Now the good jokes end,
Bad puns never bothered me anyway!

I posit that Claire actually has a forum account
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ZoeB on 15 Nov 2014, 22:17

Valkygrrl wins the forum.  :clairedoge:

Hastily written...

DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DaDaDeDumDum DeDumDum.

*sings*

Puns ride high in the forum tonight,
Not a good joke to be seen.
Called Zoe a dominatrix,
And you've made me your new queen.

The jokes are flying sweeping real comments aside,
And I went with it 'cus I have no pride.

So now you sit and laugh with glee
As Zoe spit-takes because of me.
Conceal Your squeel 'cause now we know,
You like humor low!

Let them flow, let them flow
May the puns come ever more,
Let them flow, let them flow
Post another three or four.

So beware,
'cus they're going to stay.
Now the good jokes end,
Bad puns never bothered me anyway!

Do we have some kind of trophy for best post ever?  Cuz this one deserves it.

And a cover by Jeph's group.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: techkid on 16 Nov 2014, 02:52
Appropriately, Claire would have to be the singer for this one.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 16 Nov 2014, 05:47
The only problem is, Disney's lawyers would be all over Jeph like flies on fecal matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 16 Nov 2014, 06:16
I dunno, isn't parody protected?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: bhtooefr on 16 Nov 2014, 06:28
It is, but you have to lawyer up to defend against them anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 16 Nov 2014, 07:38
Nothing can protect you from Das Maus. All shall kneel.



Mum? Like Veronica? OMG you were the defense force dominatrix! #goodnameforaband
Drink warning next time please. It's been a long time since I burst out laughing at a keyboard.  :laugh:

Still not a better name for a band then my band's name. But right up there with Supernova Star Forge

I think that Marten and Claire are slowly putting together the pieces. There really does seem to be a parental conspiracy of some sort going on here, doesn't there?  :wink:
Yup.

Quote
..seeing if she can make his temple veins pop out by introducing her boyfriend (and implying activities that haven't occurred yet) will probably be a diabolical entertainment for her.
"Well I'll leave you up to your business. Good Night"
He wouldn't be the only one making such assumptions.

I'm surprised no-one has picked up on that before.

Oh shiiiiiiiiiit. Isn't it like... Midafternoon?

My prediction:  Claire finds Clinton working on something, and tries to rile him up with the news.  Clinton keeps working and doesn't react.  He finally says "When mom told me you had a boyfriend, I asked if it was Marten.  He's a good guy, and you've been obsessed with him since you started that job, so stop being such a spaz about it," and he goes back to work. 

Claire then turns to Marten, who  says "Obsessed, huh?" with a big smile.  Cue Claire-ultimate-red-face.

That would be perfect (APPLAUSE)

Win.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: ASB84 on 16 Nov 2014, 17:19
Something I've been thinking about over the weekend: while Clinton's attitude and behaviour does tend to be overbearing and boorish, displaying poor judgment of character and jumping to conclusions, I get the impression that deep down, he means well. Consider his conversation (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2426) with Claire after the wedding where he backs off a bit and apologises with "Sorry. I just - I don't want you to get hurt.", to which she softens a bit and replies "I know". Claire's reaction suggests that he is genuine and is standing by/standing up for a member of his family in a way that is ultimately appreciated. He just doesn't go about it very well.

I also get the impression that certain past incidents have made him a tad over-sensitive, or quick to go on the defensive. It's possible that he's been around when unpleasant things have happened to Claire, or present when nasty or transphobic remarks have been made in front of her, or about her behind her back. If so, then he's probably more worried and inclined to be protective than he needs to be, though that's understandable. Due to the clumsiness of his words/lack of social graces, he may come off as a bit patriarchal, but it's probably the same way he'd act in defending a male relative, or close friend. At least, that's the way it comes across to me. It would be interesting to get some back story here, fleshing out both characters and making Clinton a bit more likeable.

On that note though, I've also been thinking about Claire's remarks in 2834. One's initial reaction is to smirk, chuckle, or even cheer, because Clinton is the less likeable character and we relish the thought of him getting egg on his face, or verbally dressed down. However, the more I think about it...well, it's kind of bratty and immature of Claire, almost going out of the way to cause drama. The adult thing to do would be to tell him about Marten, and set him straight: something like "We're together, we care about one another, Marten's a good guy, and we're all going to be adults about this", with a warning that he needs to back off and not interfere in the relationship. Instead, he's being set up to be caught off guard and possibly go off half-cocked.

That suggests that although deep down they do love and support one another as siblings, Claire is just as antagonistic towards Clinton as he is towards her. In her own words (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2327), he's "really fun to pick on", which dances the line of being a bullying attitude. Again, we let it slide or even applaud it because Clinton comes across as creepy and unlikeable, but how much of that comes down to the way he's treated, or some back story that we haven't been told yet?

I'm sure Clinton will need to be put in his place, but perhaps Claire needs to re-evaluate how she treats him, too. You lose some of the moral high ground when you scold someone for being disproportionately angry, when you've gone out of your way to anger them in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 16 Nov 2014, 20:35
Appropriately, Claire would have to be the singer for this one.

You really think Let it Go suits Clare? I was thinking of something with a bit more cheese to it.

The hangover feels colossal,
Pounding into your mind.
I give you a Steinbeck novel,
For my humor issssssss unrefined.

Let my puns open the door.
Let My puns open the door.
Let My puns open the door.
To your heart.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: jwhouk on 17 Nov 2014, 05:38
No, because...

Nah. It's too esoteric a quip, and it'd probably tick someone off.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Schmorgluck on 17 Nov 2014, 20:01
The earlier discussion about how Veronica was summoned by Marten spouting "mom" loud enough made me think of this:(http://i.imgur.com/q0qiE.jpg)
or this:
(http://i.imgur.com/3nH2U.jpg)
(from HAAH WAAW (http://freaky.imgur.com/the_art_that_is_called_haah_waaw), a site I find ridiculously funny, in a why-the-fuck-does-it-make-me-laugh sense)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 17 Nov 2014, 21:13
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Nov 2014, 23:12
Also, as long as we're sticking with Frozen, here's a way Claire can break the news to Clinton:

Did you know I'm dating Marten?
It doesn't bother him I'm trans.
We just went out on our first date,
And it felt really great,
And his mom caught us holding hands!
I know you care about my safety,
And that's sweet of you,
But he's really a nice guy...

Did you know I'm dating Marten?
Can you be glad I'm dating Marten?

Can't you try?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: valkygrrl on 17 Nov 2014, 23:17
*passes the tiara to Gladstone* You win.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Gladstone on 17 Nov 2014, 23:23
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5604/15198178433_a0e1585d0a_m.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: explicit on 17 Nov 2014, 23:24
The prettiest princess
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: GarandMarine on 17 Nov 2014, 23:31
Dear Marten friend,

Kiss her you fool.

The Evil Part of Your Conscience,
GM
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: K1dmor on 18 Nov 2014, 00:45
 Congrats Gladstone, you already got a tiara, so have a quick edit instead  :-):
 
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 18 Nov 2014, 00:58
Cripes! That's definitely not her colour!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Nov 2014, 04:18
Yeah, she needs a darker blue. She would totally rock Merida's dress from Brave.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Lubricus on 18 Nov 2014, 04:23
That I'd like to see!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: kryptoknight on 18 Nov 2014, 06:48
Yeah, she needs a darker blue. She would totally rock Merida's dress from Brave.
Isn't Merida's dress more of a green?
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Somnus Eternus on 18 Nov 2014, 07:05
Yeah, she needs a darker blue. She would totally rock Merida's dress from Brave.
Isn't Merida's dress more of a green?

Pretty sure it's like a deep forest, yeah.  There are some blue undertones, but...

...Sorry.  Started to go fabric nerd.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Zebediah on 18 Nov 2014, 07:29
There seem to be a couple of different versions of it:

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

The second one still looks more blue than green to me, but I've noticed before that I perceive the boundary between blue and green in a different place than most people. Either way, Claire would look great in it.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Mr_Rose on 18 Nov 2014, 11:58
You know how there was that comic about how Claire was secretly a Disney Princess?
I think we just figured out which one… 
Or at the very least she's the several times removed great granddaughter of both Merida and Ariel.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Kugai on 18 Nov 2014, 13:17
If she has a Longbow in her closet, then we'll know you're right.
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Pilchard123 on 18 Nov 2014, 13:56
Well, one is a kind of greyish-blue and the other one is a kind of er, bluish-grey
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: Rghfrgl on 18 Nov 2014, 15:54
Congrats Gladstone, you already got a tiara, so have a quick edit instead  :-):
 
(click to show/hide)

Marketing says you have to make her blonde!
Title: Re: WCDT: 2831-2835 (10 - 14 November 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Post by: cesariojpn on 19 Nov 2014, 21:20
Congrats Gladstone, you already got a tiara, so have a quick edit instead  :-):
 
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Marketing says you have to make her blonde!

Let it go......

Guitars? Like, plural? Marten's only got the 8-string he traded his old one in for.

Who Needs Guitars Anyway? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHjNmyzrVvM)