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Title: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 07 Dec 2014, 09:24
My first time doing this! I'f I've trod on anyone's toes by doing this, my apologies in advance.

Well, we've got several possible directions that the strip could go in for this coming week. There are three obvious threads:

Or will Jeph simply succumb to instinct and give us more Clairten squee? My own guess as to a possible unexpected outcome will be Veronica meeting Mrs A and then the two of them beginning to plot together.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Dec 2014, 09:30
Quote from: Jeph's Twitter
Hmm, do I lampshade a character's disappearance in this comic or not

My guess: Claire tries to introduce Clinton to Gabby, but can't find her.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DSL on 07 Dec 2014, 09:45
Quote from: Jeph's Twitter
Hmm, do I lampshade a character's disappearance in this comic or not

My guess: Claire tries to introduce Clinton to Gabby, but can't find her.

She will have been standing there all the time -- only this time, to the left of the panel. (It's the unpredictability.)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 07 Dec 2014, 10:08
Predicting Clinton ironically lecturing Marten on treating women right.

Also predicting strips uploaded out of order, because JJ is working ahead.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 07 Dec 2014, 12:17
There will be Clairten
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 07 Dec 2014, 19:53
And now for something completely…
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Border Reiver on 07 Dec 2014, 20:44
A man with three buttocks?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 07 Dec 2014, 20:46
We have Comic Sign!

(http://media.tumblr.com/74be68230cb2c2af8b00962eb82fd754/tumblr_inline_mg5czeCNlR1qzb8j3.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 07 Dec 2014, 20:48
I could see Marten and Will sitting in tweed and conversing over frothy beers
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 07 Dec 2014, 20:49
And racing their Penny-farthings down to the soda shop.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Dec 2014, 20:51
Marten needs a cowboy hat.

And a tub of fruit.

And the number of that promoter for sexyfruitstompingcowboys.com (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=448)

Also: DANG, Marten.  Just dang.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: GarandMarine on 07 Dec 2014, 20:53
Are tweed jackets comfy?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: valkygrrl on 07 Dec 2014, 21:10
Marten and Clinton are wearing the same outfit.

Awkward.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 07 Dec 2014, 21:12
Are tweed jackets comfy?
It's more noted for its weather resistance, durability, and warmth.  It's basically just wool with a different weave.  And the sort of thing that you'd wear next time out hunting if you wanted to look like the British upper class.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Stoon on 07 Dec 2014, 21:14
Is it just me, or does Marten look like he's dressed in an outfit from the '70s?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 07 Dec 2014, 21:16
Marten and Clinton are wearing the same outfit.

Awkward.

Your avatar too, if a different color. It's like he's part of the family already.

Now to get back to my 300 page honeymoon fanfiction.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Dec 2014, 21:19
Marten and Clinton are wearing the same outfit.

Awkward.

Worse, he's probably going to show up uninvited at the library today to give Marten a (what he thinks is) necessary Lecture On Dating My Sister.  Dear god no. 

(Emily tries to distract him with another questionnaire while Marten and Claire escape through the back.  It's super effective!)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 07 Dec 2014, 21:45
I'm still hoping for Clinton meets Raven.  Unfortunately it's more likely Clinton meets Cosette and hits on her ineptly.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 07 Dec 2014, 21:47
I'm still hoping for Clinton meets Raven.  Unfortunately it's more likely Clinton meets Cosette and hits on her ineptly.
"A, I have a boyfriend, and B, Ew. Buzz off." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1753)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesariojpn on 07 Dec 2014, 21:58
We have Comic Sign!

(http://media.tumblr.com/74be68230cb2c2af8b00962eb82fd754/tumblr_inline_mg5czeCNlR1qzb8j3.gif)


Where's Gypsy and Cambot?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 07 Dec 2014, 21:59
At least comic sign is usually better than Wormsign.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 07 Dec 2014, 22:03
The Comic must flow


MMMMMMMM

Jeph Jacques

:D





"We are the Augustus, you will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MrNumbers on 07 Dec 2014, 22:06
Marten looks... nice.

Something has gone wrong.

Something has gone terribly, horribly, no-good, very-bad wrong.

Now this wrongness has filled my head with ideas. Dreadful ideas from whence there is no return. Now I want to see Marten in a waistcoat. Ooh, yes, a waistcoat would do well. Yesss... the waistcoat... Claire must see...

Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to take them outside and settle this like gentlemen, with fisticuffs, for their impertinence. Otherwise, prepare for velocipede-chases and Model-T drive-by shootouts.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 07 Dec 2014, 22:13
Fancy clothes and Frothy Drinks? To the Horrible Revelation!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: lot_jockey on 07 Dec 2014, 22:15
Is it just me, or does Marten look like he's dressed in an outfit from the '70s?

Ha, I can see it. Also, the fly on those pants is tiny.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 07 Dec 2014, 22:16
Next

The Bee Gees on QC!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 07 Dec 2014, 22:48
We have Comic Sign!
http://media.tumblr.com/74be68230cb2c2af8b00962eb82fd754/tumblr_inline_mg5czeCNlR1qzb8j3.gif


Where's Gypsy and Cambot?

You realize that we see all 197 (+movie) through Cambot's all-seeing eye? He's there.
No idea where Gypsy is.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 07 Dec 2014, 22:53
Marten and Clinton are wearing the same outfit.

Awkward.

Next comic: Clinton goes to the library to give Marten the "dating my sister" speech, they spend 3 panels staring at each other's clothes, too embarrassed to talk.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 07 Dec 2014, 22:58
4 panels embarrassment, with Tai  popping in to make the punchline
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 07 Dec 2014, 23:01
Even better!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 07 Dec 2014, 23:23
I have previously suggested that Claire might start dressing more elaborately because of wanting to look good for Marten and because having a boyfriend makes her feel good about herself. For some reason, it never occurred to me that Marten would experience the same effect! I am interested to see Claire's reaction to this new look!

Faye, at least, seems to be her usual self: Moderately hung-over and dryly mocking!

This could be just a filler strip, of course. This week could focus on an entirely different character and their misadventures.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 07 Dec 2014, 23:59
Could anyone explain to me slowly and in terms I understand why wearing the same clothes as somebody else is embarrassing?
I could not find anything understandable in my social protocol database. Usually, when people are embarrassed by something,  it is due to them performing an act which shows lack of diligence in some way. Eg I may be embarrassed because I made a joke and failed to take into account it is insulting to somebody, or because I was caught in a socially unacceptable behavior, such as performing basic bodily functions and not hiding it well enough (thus lack of diligence).

The same-dressing seems to lack any of the criteria described. Surely society doesn't expect me to show diligence by contacting every person I might meet in advance and coordinating what we wear?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Dec 2014, 00:11
Marten and Clinton are wearing the same outfit.

Awkward.
We don't know what pants Clinton has on, actually. It's just a white button down shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Skewbrow on 08 Dec 2014, 00:16
Quote from: Jeph's Twitter
Hmm, do I lampshade a character's disappearance in this comic or not

My guess: Claire tries to introduce Clinton to Gabby, but can't find her.

She will have been standing there all the time -- only this time, to the left of the panel. (It's the unpredictability.)

LOL. Trying to learn this from The Meister. The key to a good delivery of a joke is ... timing.

Could anyone explain to me slowly and in terms I understand why wearing the same clothes as somebody else is embarrassing?

I know that any fashion police out there will declare me a lost cause at first sight, but I'll second this plea. I'm used to this being applied to women (they have their reasons that I cannot fathom), but men? AFAIK uniformity of attire is expected from us, no?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Dec 2014, 00:17
Could anyone explain to me slowly and in terms I understand why wearing the same clothes as somebody else is embarrassing?

As I understand it, the embarrassment comes from the implication that you have the same personal aesthetic and thought processes as the other person. When the person is as overtly uncool as Clinton, it can lead to self-doubt and mockery. It implies that the two of you are somehow alike.

This is why everyone wants to see Marten and Claire in their 'TEH' shirts at the same time. We can already hear Faye yelling about them 'dressing like they're already married'!

There is a specific subset of this subject surrounding female couture and social oneupmanship but that isn't relevant to this discussion.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Akima on 08 Dec 2014, 00:38
I had to google "estate pipe" because I had not heard the term before. I suppose it does sound better than "second hand". I did not know that was a thing; it sounds a bit like second-hand toothbrushes.

Marten looks pretty snazzy, but isn't "man redeemed by the love of a good woman" theme a bit hackneyed? Rafael Sabatini worked it to death.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Dec 2014, 00:42
I don't know if Marten has been redeemed. I find it interesting that Claire inspires him to change something, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Nepiophage on 08 Dec 2014, 01:39
I'm delighted to see some verbal humour again. I was getting tired of 20-word strips.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Dec 2014, 04:03
After squinting at it for a while, I'm pretty sure that the early-stage sketch Jeph had in this Tweet (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/541649172878086144) was Clinton. So, we can be relatively sure he'll turn up at some point and in some context some time this week.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Dec 2014, 04:13
Basically, tomorrow or Wednesday. Jeph might be working ahead right now, but he doesn't work that far ahead. So Clinton will probably be bumping into Marten at the library or on the way to the library.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rimwolf on 08 Dec 2014, 05:52
I'm pretty sure that Marten's worn that shirt at the library before (though I can't offhand find the relevant strips) so I don't quite see the big deal.
Unless he ironed it: that would be Serious Stuff.

(I think we still own an iron, though I don't recall seeing it the last year or two.)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 08 Dec 2014, 06:00
I think it's less the button down, more the entire outfit. It's not as often we see him in a dress shirt, tucked in, and a belt.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: mattcoz on 08 Dec 2014, 09:32
Velocipede sounds like some kind of horrific cross between a velociraptor and a centipede. All those legs each with a huge claw to slash you with. My nightmare fuel is topped off for the next month.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Dec 2014, 09:53
IMO the definitive statement on Velocipeding, from the amazing Kate Beaton:

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=331
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Platypodes on 08 Dec 2014, 10:24
Is Marty wearing low-rise dress slacks?  Is that a thing that exists?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Dec 2014, 11:17
I suddenly have this vision of Marten and Clinton standing in Clairemom's Kitchen going

"One of us!  One of us!  One of us!"
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Smallest on 08 Dec 2014, 11:24
Velocipede sounds like some kind of horrific cross between a velociraptor and a centipede. All those legs each with a huge claw to slash you with. My nightmare fuel is topped off for the next month.

Oh good, I'm not the only one that said that.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Dec 2014, 11:27
A Velocipede is a 'Raptor on a Bike



:-D
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Dec 2014, 11:34
I thought it was a gang of velociraptors and bikers... You know, the Jurassic World movie?

Those dinosaur gangs are getting out of control.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Dec 2014, 11:37
Those dinosaur gangs are getting out of control.

They were never in control - that was the mistake!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Dec 2014, 11:51
You're out of control, McRaptor! Turn in your badge and claws!

SKREEEE!

Coming next summer, Star Lord and Vel McRaptor in Velocipede Cop!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 08 Dec 2014, 14:30
Video kinda related:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Dec 2014, 16:11
Is Marty wearing low-rise dress slacks?  Is that a thing that exists?

If so, they look darn good on him.  Although he's wearing the wrong belt. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1751)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 08 Dec 2014, 17:16
Is Marty wearing low-rise dress slacks?  Is that a thing that exists?

If so, they look darn good on him.  Although he's wearing the wrong belt. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1751)

Was thinking the same thing - and if it's Claire he's wanting to impress, cats (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2272) are a good bet.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Estron on 08 Dec 2014, 18:12
Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 08 Dec 2014, 18:13
Panel 1 Claire is the cutest Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: explicit on 08 Dec 2014, 18:14
I don't any of those albums Jeph posted! I'm lame!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ysth on 08 Dec 2014, 18:17
Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
No, Gabby was put on the bus.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Dec 2014, 18:28
Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
No, Gabby was put on the bus.

When was her last appearance, anyway?  The lake house?  Or was there a strip sometime after 2328 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2328)? 
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Dec 2014, 18:30
That 1st panel Claire: awwwwwwwwww! :laugh: :lol: :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: bhtooefr on 08 Dec 2014, 18:31
Is it just me, or is Jeph regressing on the hair shading, a LOT?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Dec 2014, 18:33
He has met Emily before. He introduced her to the wonders of the various types of Mega Man blasters. And she introduced him to frozen peas.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Dec 2014, 18:36
Yes, but they haven't been properly introduced, in a nudge-nudge, "remember this pretty lady/handsome fella you met before?" kind of way.

EDIT: Jeph's on it! (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/542145774189301760)
Quote from: Jeph
Slight continuity glitch in tonight's QC. I'll fix it tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Nyithra on 08 Dec 2014, 18:48
I feel like if Clint and Emily got together their relationship would be massively entertaining to me.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rimwolf on 08 Dec 2014, 18:53
This one was so hilarious, I don't care about the continuity glitch.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Dec 2014, 18:59
Well, it is important to give peas a chance.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesariojpn on 08 Dec 2014, 19:03
Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
No, Gabby was put on the bus. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PutOnABus)

Fixed.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Dec 2014, 19:22
Well, it is important to give peas a chance.  :claireface:

I'm looking forward to seeing Clinton give a banana smashie smoothie a chance. Ya know, when he and Emily go on their first dateaaahhhhh, no, stop it Stephen, no more shipping, you can just barely handle all the "awwwww"s from Clairaten!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: plusorminus on 08 Dec 2014, 19:35
I'm really not happy about Gabby's disappearance and said reason for disappearance. An MLS student just quitting an internship at the library? Mmkay. But Jeph's comic so ... *Kanye shrug*

Glad Clinton is taking Marten/Claire so well. I predict he'll consider Emily too weird for him.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Dec 2014, 19:42
Of course Gabby being referenced could mean she's about to get a plotline of some sort. 
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Dec 2014, 19:45
The Adventures of Gabby in L-Space
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: mustang6172 on 08 Dec 2014, 20:35
I imagine Gabby is working under Steve now in the USDoKYA.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 08 Dec 2014, 20:54
The Adventures of Gabby in L-Space
I wonder if there is a C-space for coffee shop employees?
I also wonder if there is a combination LC-Space now that libraries are adding coffee shops
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Dec 2014, 21:03
I wonder if there is a C-space for coffee shop employees?
I also wonder if there is a combination LC-Space now that libraries are adding coffee shops

They tried that, but the Barista (short, hairy, long arms, rather monosyllabic) only served banana smoothies, so it didn't work out.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 08 Dec 2014, 21:09
I wonder if there is a C-space for coffee shop employees?
I also wonder if there is a combination LC-Space now that libraries are adding coffee shops

They tried that, but the Barista (short, hairy, long arms, rather monosyllabic) only served banana smoothies, so it didn't work out.

As long as the bibliodons didn't mistake him for the m word
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Dec 2014, 21:10
They don't get a chance.  Gabby is brutally efficient when it comes to bibliodon management.

Also, looks like Jeph fixed the continuity glitch.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Somebody on 08 Dec 2014, 21:37
Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
No, Gabby was put on the bus.
Is that what they're calling "eaten by allosaurus" these days?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Dec 2014, 21:39
Hypergolic?

:-D
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DonInKansas on 08 Dec 2014, 21:57
I was also hoping for the Hello Kitty belt.

Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Indicible on 08 Dec 2014, 22:13
Quote
Hypergolic?

[French interlude]Il a donc une énorme gaule?

Désolé... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVoF2Iwk4f8)
[/French interlude]

Is it just me or do Clinton and Marten look suspiciously alike?
How should we call the inevitable pairing? Climily? Emiton? Disaster?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ysth on 08 Dec 2014, 23:14
Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
No, Gabby was put on the bus.
Is that what they're calling "eaten by allosaurus" these days?
No, you can come back from being put on a bus.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 08 Dec 2014, 23:19
Except when it's the Allosaurus Feeding Station bus, of course.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Dec 2014, 23:34
Lots to like in today's strip, even before you get to the content. Jeph is trying some new stuff with layout and I like the resulting dynamic overall feel compared to the rather static full/half height panels.

It looks like Claire is also feeling the need to dress up today! It's amazing what one successful date can do for your self-image; no grundgy look for them today!

No great surprise about Gabby. Cynicism is okay but she took it to the point where she literally couldn't believe in her colleagues' good motives. That isn't conducive to workplace trust and harmony. Given where her skill set lies, she might have decided to transfer her internship to a school.

Clinton, old chum, you knew how weird Marten's lady friends are. It's too late to back out now, especially as you made it a condition of giving your sister her space! Oddly enough, I genuinely think that he and Emily might enjoy eachother's company. They have common interests, after all! Whether he could handle her weird brain in a romantic relationship is another matter!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: J on 08 Dec 2014, 23:35
what's martin got against emily?



Are tweed jackets comfy?
It's more noted for its weather resistance, durability, and warmth.  It's basically just wool with a different weave.  And the sort of thing that you'd wear next time out hunting if you wanted to look like the British upper class.
i thought that was what khaki's and pith helmets were for




Could anyone explain to me slowly and in terms I understand why wearing the same clothes as somebody else is embarrassing?

I know that any fashion police out there will declare me a lost cause at first sight, but I'll second this plea. I'm used to this being applied to women (they have their reasons that I cannot fathom), but men? AFAIK uniformity of attire is expected from us, no?

i seem to remember some kinda webcomic running a strip about this, but can't be bothered to hunt it down.

basically, it juxtaposed the male & female reactions to this situation side by side. the women glared at eachother with hate, the men high-fived as bros.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Dec 2014, 23:35
For the first time in weeks, I laughed at QC.

I'm not saying it hasn't been funny. Just not LOL funny.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 08 Dec 2014, 23:44
Are tweed jackets comfy?
It's more noted for its weather resistance, durability, and warmth.  It's basically just wool with a different weave.  And the sort of thing that you'd wear next time out hunting if you wanted to look like the British upper class.
i thought that was what khaki's and pith helmets were for
I was thinking less Livingstone, and more "Jeeves and Wooster".
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MrNumbers on 08 Dec 2014, 23:48

Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?

It's coiled up like a firehose, with the furry plums divided one per trouser leg.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: snubnose on 09 Dec 2014, 00:12
Oh no ! NOT EMILY !!!

Oh NO!!  Gabby quit?
At least Jeph didnt think of throwing Raven to the shark... err giving Raven to Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 09 Dec 2014, 00:12
Those trousers are like a cheap castle.

They have no ballroom.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 09 Dec 2014, 00:38
Clinton and Emily, huh? I doubt that'll turn out well.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 09 Dec 2014, 00:49
I agree with the name "Disaster" being applied to this. It's gonna crash and burn so beautifully.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Dec 2014, 01:22
Another thing I enjoyed in today's strip was the effort Jeph put into body language, especially from the Augustus clan.

In panel one, Claire's body language is so revealing of how into Marten she's become. She's coy, slightly bashful and tense but, beyond all else, very, very happy to see her boyfriend. I may be reading too much into it but I also got the impression that she likes Marten's new improved dress sense. "Grrr! Want that!" seems to be a definite subtext. Then there is panel 2 where the fact that Claire is clearly inviting Marten to join her in teasing/tormenting Clinton practically leaps off the page thanks to her fake serious expression.

On the other hand, Clinton is perceptibly nervous. I think that, in between strips, Claire has scolded him for the "introduce to hot friend" crack. Now, here comes Marten and Clinton has suddenly been reminded that Marten is several years older and considerably larger than him. Will Claire complain to her boyfriend about her brother's attitude? This nervousness continues throughout the strip and, by the final panel, it is very clear that Clinton realises that he has left himself wide open to be trolled until Marten and Claire get tired of his suffering!

Overall, in technical terms, this is one of the best strips Jeph has done recently! He should pat himself on the back... if he can do that without throwing out his bad back, that is! :-P

Clinton and Emily, huh? I doubt that'll turn out well.

I agree with the name "Disaster" being applied to this. It's gonna crash and burn so beautifully.

I'll say  this much: Stranger things have happened in the Questionable Content universe. It could be that in this mad, crazy world of theirs, those two are the only match for each other. I would submit that everything will depend on the attitude they bring to the introduction and something tells me that it isn't Emily who would be the one likely to sabotage anything, by accident or design. She's too nice for that, even though I have concerns as to whether she has the emotional maturity to really understand what is being proposed.

And, of course, Emily is in on The Secret. If there is one thing that she and Clinton share, it is that, in their own unique ways, they care for Claire and want the best for her.

Anyway, I think that this week's arc is going to answer a common fan question - Was Emily ever interested in Marten and is she really completely up-to-speed on what is happening between Marten and Claire?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: snubnose on 09 Dec 2014, 01:33
Clinton and Emily, huh? I doubt that'll turn out well.
Well, judging from the tone of the comic, I doubt anyone is PLANNING on it turning out well.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DonInKansas on 09 Dec 2014, 01:41
Those trousers are like a cheap castle.

They have no ballroom.

I am in lust with this comment.   :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 09 Dec 2014, 01:44
Clinton and Emily, huh? I doubt that'll turn out well.
Well, judging from the tone of the comic, I doubt anyone is PLANNING on it turning out well.

All the more fun for us, of course. Should be interesting. The problem is that Emily is a lot too nice for Clinton - he's kind of an asshole.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MrNumbers on 09 Dec 2014, 02:12
Well, Clinton has shown the capacity for kindness, but definitely not the awareness for it.

That might change if he, you know, tries.

Then again, it might be very entertaining to watch him try too hard and Emily be oblivious to it.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Honkytonk on 09 Dec 2014, 03:19
what's martin got against emily?
Are tweed jackets comfy?
It's more noted for its weather resistance, durability, and warmth.  It's basically just wool with a different weave.  And the sort of thing that you'd wear next time out hunting if you wanted to look like the British upper class.
i thought that was what khaki's and pith helmets were for

We only wear those when we're off for a spot of colonising.

Goodbye Gabby. We hardly knew ye...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: valkygrrl on 09 Dec 2014, 05:44
Dressed up to the eyes it's a wonderful surprise.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: snubnose on 09 Dec 2014, 06:24
It just dawned on me that Marten thinks Faye is single !??

We never actually got a clear split between Faye and Angus, so I was still kind of hopeful.



[...] The problem is that Emily is a lot too nice for Clinton - he's kind of an asshole.
We have no matching female of that attitude for him available, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 07:16
hooray! Longer and wordier comic! I missed those!

This will either crash and burn horribly or go incredibly well. Maybe both.

Is it just me, or is Jeph regressing on the hair shading, a LOT?

I've noticed Jeph's art has gotten somewhat...simpler (not worse) since he started Alice Grove, in particular. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I'm ok with it anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Welu on 09 Dec 2014, 07:26
Aw, I'm bummed about Gabby. :(
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Dec 2014, 07:32

Quote from: A Duck link=topic=30336.msg1288522

I've noticed Jeph's art has gotten somewhat...simpler (not worse) since he started Alice Grove, in particular. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I'm ok with it anyway.

Might also be a change in versions of PS.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 09:17
Might also be a change in versions of PS.

Wow, that much?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 09 Dec 2014, 09:26
Okay, today's over-analysis of comic 2851  is brought to you by Mooski:

1.  Marten has dressed dapper for Claire.
2.  Claire looks even happier than usual to see Marten.
3.  Claire is standing in front of a house that is not hers.  She lives at 221 Elm.
4.  The number over Claire's head in every panel she's in today is 143.
5.  For the overly romantic amongst you, 143 has a special meaning.

Conclusion:  today was the day Claire fell in love with Marten.

You read it here first.  Heh.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 09:30
Okay, today's over-analysis of comic 2851  is brought to you by Mooski:

1.  Marten has dressed dapper for Claire.
2.  Claire looks even happier than usual to see Marten.
3.  Claire is standing in front of a house that is not hers.  She lives at 221 Elm.
4.  The number over Claire's head in every panel she's in today is 143.
5.  For the overly romantic amongst you, 143 has a special meaning.

Conclusion:  today was the day Claire fell in love with Marten.

You read it here first.  Heh.

holy crap, the 143 thing makes sense! It's "I love you" according to Urban Dictionary. Nice catch!
I wouldn't say she just fell in love with Marten, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 09 Dec 2014, 09:54
"Today", Mooski. Really. "Today".

On other news, I am now fully expecting the Clinton - Emily moment. Specially who manages to weird the other one out.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Dec 2014, 09:57
I'm calling it now: Clinton is the one who weirds Emily out. It can't be any other way.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 09 Dec 2014, 10:06
I wouldn't say she just fell in love with Marten, though.
"Today", Mooski. Really. "Today".

I don't think there's any question she's been crushing pretty hard on Marten for a while, but I'd say there's an arguable difference between a crush and being in love.  Also, if the house number is actually symbolism, I'd make the case there's a reason it's being used today as opposed to any other day.

That said, there are at least two ways to read the symbolism:

- 143 over Claire's head is like a stylized thought balloon:  she's thinking it about Marten
- 143 over Claire's head is supposed to be read from top to bottom:  "I love you, Claire" - and Marten is thinking it.

Option one seemed more likely, especially since it's been less than a week since Marten deliberately chose the word "like" to describe his feelings for her.

Either way, it's a fun easter egg.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 10:31
It'll make me extremely sad if Marten-Claire goes down because Claire is more into Marten than the other way around.
Then again, Marten is wearing a freaking button up shirt because of her.

By the way, it's been a while since we've seen a lot of the cast, longer than usual even. Am I just imagining things?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Cattus on 09 Dec 2014, 11:05
Is it just me, or does Marten look like he's dressed in an outfit from the '70s?

Ha, I can see it. Also, the fly on those pants is tiny.
That's because it's a gnat.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Cattus on 09 Dec 2014, 11:11
I'm really not happy about Gabby's disappearance and said reason for disappearance. An MLS student just quitting an internship at the library? Mmkay. But Jeph's comic so ... *Kanye shrug*

Glad Clinton is taking Marten/Claire so well. I predict he'll consider Emily too weird for him.
Actually, they are both pretty odd and that may result in a relationship of discontinuities, misinterpretations, and other oddities - I bet hilarity would ensue.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Endellion on 09 Dec 2014, 11:14
Okay, today's over-analysis of comic 2851  is brought to you by Mooski:

1.  Marten has dressed dapper for Claire.
2.  Claire looks even happier than usual to see Marten.
3.  Claire is standing in front of a house that is not hers.  She lives at 221 Elm.
4.  The number over Claire's head in every panel she's in today is 143.
5.  For the overly romantic amongst you, 143 has a special meaning.

Conclusion:  today was the day Claire fell in love with Marten.

You read it here first.  Heh.

Dannnnnng, very nice spot there :D

That's gonna keep me giggling for the rest of the night.

Ok, lets see if the SS Emilton leaves the drydock.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: NilsO on 09 Dec 2014, 11:17
Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?
I thought discussion of private parts was strictly off limits? Or is this just applicable to Claire? :evil:
Also, I feel really sorry for Emily. Marten and Claire are evil if they try to set her up with Clinton. Emily is a nice person, Clinton is not.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Cattus on 09 Dec 2014, 11:25
It'll make me extremely sad if Marten-Claire goes down because Claire is more into Marten than the other way around.
.............

I think that Marten is really liking this relationship for a number of reasons:
1 - He's more experienced with relationships than Claire is and therefore isn't uncomfortable around her.  For a change he can be more of the relationship "alpha".  But even with that being said, their relationship can be totally new ground for them both and that's fun and exciting.
2 - She is more "feminine" than his other relationships (I realize that may be strange given her original gender but it just goes to show how that can be.)
3 - She won't beat him into the ground if he innocently messes something up.
4 - She's sooooo nice.

I must say that whether Jeph initially realized or not, the 'Claireten' thing in QC has potential to be complex, innovative and fun for us 'observers'.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Cattus on 09 Dec 2014, 11:28
Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?
I thought discussion of private parts was strictly off limits? Or is this just applicable to Claire? :evil:
Also, I feel really sorry for Emily. Marten and Claire are evil if they try to set her up with Clinton. Emily is a nice person, Clinton is not.

I'm not sure at all why you would say that Clinton is not nice.  He's VERY protective of his sister and is quite gallant about it.  Please elaborate on your opinion.  Thanks.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 11:29
Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?
I thought discussion of private parts was strictly off limits? Or is this just applicable to Claire? :evil:
Also, I feel really sorry for Emily. Marten and Claire are evil if they try to set her up with Clinton. Emily is a nice person, Clinton is not.

I don't think Clinton is a bad person. He usually means well and I think he really cannot see how some of his actions might be perceived as being wrong (case in point: the picture he took of Hanners). He does care about Claire, too, even if he sometimes (all the times) goes a little overboard.

He's kind of a dick, but he means well and I think "being a dick" is beyond his control, for the moment. I'd say he's a better person than what Sven used to be, for example.

Of course, a possible situation between Clinton and Emily means character development for him, which I don't think we really got much of.

I think that Marten is really liking this relationship for a number of reasons:
1 - He's more experienced with relationships than Claire is and therefore isn't uncomfortable around her.  For a change he can be more of the relationship "alpha".  But even with that being said, their relationship can be totally new ground for them both and that's fun and exciting.
2 - She is more "feminine" than his other relationships (I realize that may be strange given her original gender but it just goes to show how that can be.)
3 - She won't beat him into the ground if he innocently messes something up.
4 - She's sooooo nice.

I must say that whether Jeph initially realized or not, the 'Claireten' thing in QC has potential to be complex, innovative and fun for us 'observers'.

I said before and I repeat: Claire is Marten's first relationship (that we know of) that starts in a healthy, drama-free situation. Nothing like Faye (oh god), Dora and Padma. I look forward to seeing those two develop their relationship for a long while, hopefully longer than Marten-Dora was a thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Dec 2014, 11:31
He's also got a massive entitlement complex, he's so protective of Claire that he's almost stifling (trying to take the role of the traditional father who locks a daughter away from potential suitors), and he has no understanding of boundaries.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 09 Dec 2014, 11:35
It just dawned on me that Marten thinks Faye is single !??

She did have the post-break up hangover.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2850 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2850)
But even though Marten has mentally reclassified her as single, he wouldn't try to set her up on a date, she and Angus split just the day before (in QC time).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 11:39
He's also got a massive entitlement complex, he's so protective of Claire that he's almost stifling (trying to take the role of the traditional father who locks a daughter away from potential suitors), and he has no understanding of boundaries.
Fair enough. He clearly needs to work through a lot of issues. Doesn't mean he's a fundamentally bad person, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 09 Dec 2014, 11:47
On the subject of Clinton being a overprotective jerk, I wonder if that's his motivation here, rather than meeting a girl(Well, primarily, since I'm sure he wouldn't mind that). Spend the day with Marten and scope him out.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 11:53
On the subject of Clinton being a overprotective jerk, I wonder if that's his motivation here, rather than meeting a girl(Well, primarily, since I'm sure he wouldn't mind that). Spend the day with Marten and scope him out.

Kind of like Marten spending the night drinking with Angus way back in the 1000s? Makes sense. He wouldn't tell Claire about it, too.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 09 Dec 2014, 11:59
He's also got a massive entitlement complex, he's so protective of Claire that he's almost stifling (trying to take the role of the traditional father who locks a daughter away from potential suitors), and he has no understanding of boundaries.

My analysis is that he's never had a relationship, so he doesn't really know how to behave un-selfishly around women, which means his mom and Claire are the only ones in his life. So he's overprotective to the point of unintentionally being jerk.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 09 Dec 2014, 13:08
I'd say today's strip is unequivocal proof that Jeph reads the forums.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 09 Dec 2014, 13:10
wait, why?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 09 Dec 2014, 13:15
Clinton and Emily do have things in common though. An interest in AI and robotics at least, they are also a bit unconventional (Anyone remember "Ideally hydronamic" from comic 2299)
Personally I think they'd make an interesting couple, since Emily has shown to be slightly over-emotional (crying after the failure of giving peas a chance (2438)) I could see him being really protective of her.
And it would be kind of in character for Clinton to ask Emily out, and for Emily to just say Yes.
Which would shock everyone.
This could actually be kind of fun
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 09 Dec 2014, 13:27
Because practically every panel has something that I have seen batted around here.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 09 Dec 2014, 13:39
Because practically every panel has something that I have seen batted around here.

In fairness, you'd have a hard time finding a strip that didn't.  Damn near everything gets batted around in here, and BenRG has just about created an alternate universe.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rimwolf on 09 Dec 2014, 14:27
Aw, I'm bummed about Gabby. :(

She went off to join the Allosaurus Patrol. She blinds them with library science.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DSL on 09 Dec 2014, 14:34
Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?
I thought discussion of private parts was strictly off limits? Or is this just applicable to Claire? :evil:
Well, in Marten's case, it has been brought up discussed in-comic, along with other characteristics such as size (relative to Dora's forearm) and dexterity (also relative to Dora's forearm).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Smallest on 09 Dec 2014, 16:31
Dammit Jeph, I was going to suggest Emily.

(Also, I imagine ten people have said this by now, but: Gabby Mystery is solved!)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 09 Dec 2014, 17:48
Is Marty wearing low-rise dress slacks?  Is that a thing that exists?

If so, they look darn good on him.  Although he's wearing the wrong belt. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1751)

That was the exact first QC I ever read.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Dec 2014, 18:19
Random thought: How the heck does Marten's junk fit in those pants?
I thought discussion of private parts was strictly off limits? Or is this just applicable to Claire? :evil:
Well, in Marten's case, it has been brought up discussed in-comic, along with other characteristics such as size (relative to Dora's forearm) and dexterity (also relative to Dora's forearm).

In Marten's case the discussion doesn't pour hot sauce into the open wounds of mistreated people.

Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: celticgeek on 09 Dec 2014, 18:21
A chilled Clinton is going to be something to see.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 09 Dec 2014, 18:30
Unfortunately, we'll have to wait until winter to see it.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Dec 2014, 18:35
Just don't lick his robot hand if it gets below freezing.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DonInKansas on 09 Dec 2014, 18:36
Just don't lick his robot hand if it gets below freezing.

A photochop of this with the kid from A Christmas Story would be amazing.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 09 Dec 2014, 18:53
Just don't lick his robot hand if it gets below freezing.

A photochop of this with the kid from A Christmas Story would be amazing.

I'd use the word "disturbing", personally :-\
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: plusorminus on 09 Dec 2014, 19:16
He's also got a massive entitlement complex, he's so protective of Claire that he's almost stifling (trying to take the role of the traditional father who locks a daughter away from potential suitors), and he has no understanding of boundaries.

Eh, I think that's kind of harsh and a bit unfair. From his response at Emily's party when Claire tells him that she told Marten about being trans, his immediate reaction was "He wasn't a JERK about it, was he?" suggesting that Claire has frequently been the target of bullies. Claire didn't start off her arc having high-flying self esteem, so this may have been an issue. Also, their father fucked over their mother by cheating. That likely pushed Clinton into overdrive, not wanting another male to hurt the women in his life.

Also, Clinton's not, IMO, acted in the way you suggest. He didn't even pitch a fit when Claire told him that she and Marten were dating. He was mildly snarky about it. I actually thought Claire's "can't you be happy for me?!" was a bit overwrought there. It's not like he threatened to castrate Marten or suggesting pistols at dawn or somesuch.

I sort of feel about Clinton what I've felt about Dora. A couple of mistakes and anything they do is viewed through a cynical lens. No one is disputing that Clinton was extremely creepy toward Hannelore. But it's been ages since then and he's acted like less of a disaster in subsequent meetings. He loves his sister. He's not keeping her in shackles or guilt-tripping her for having a life. He's a 21 year old who has had to deal with a lot of shit - losing his hand, losing his father, and adjusting to having a sister. All things considered, he's not such a bad egg, in my view.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: J on 09 Dec 2014, 19:20
it's been my observation that many of the type of people who hang out on webcomic forums seem to have trouble dealing with the concept of characters having more than one defining trait.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ysth on 09 Dec 2014, 19:43
Except when it's the Allosaurus Feeding Station bus, of course.

Speaking of which:

Current average patreon pledge: $2.97/month; number of average pledges remaining to hit $10,000 goal: 69.

The $10,000 milestone goal gets us:

Quote
Seriously? Seriously???

Okay, um

How about an extra QC strip every month, starring a character that backers get to vote for. That sounds pretty good to me. Let's go with that. Yeah. This is your chance to find out what REALLY happened to Sarah
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ZoeB on 09 Dec 2014, 21:43
Interesting that Marten and Clinton are wearing the same shirt.

Claire is carrying off the "pretty in pink" look beautifully.

I hope that Emily and Clinton hit it off, even if only as friends. Neither seem to grasp many social concepts - boundaries for one thing. Emily is quirky but nice, Clinton inept but gallant. I can easily imagine him defending her against unkindness, and even capturing her heart that way. They both deserve love, and seeing Claire so happy just makes me wish everyone well.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 09 Dec 2014, 21:52
Interesting that Marten and Clinton are wearing the same shirt.

Claire is carrying off the "pretty in pink" look beautifully.

I hope that Emily and Clinton hit it off, even if only as friends. Neither seem to grasp many social concepts - boundaries for one thing. Emily is quirky but nice, Clinton inept but gallant. I can easily imagine him defending her against unkindness, and even capturing her heart that way. They both deserve love, and seeing Claire so happy just makes me wish everyone well.

I appreciate your thinking and agree
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: valkygrrl on 09 Dec 2014, 21:56
They both deserve love, and seeing Claire so happy just makes me wish everyone well.

Even vespa avenger? Even Claire's dad? Even Prince Hans of the Southern Isles?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 09 Dec 2014, 22:08
I think this is going to prove to be an interesting meeting


Or a complete disaster
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 09 Dec 2014, 22:14
They both deserve love, and seeing Claire so happy just makes me wish everyone well.

Even vespa avenger? Even Claire's dad? Even Prince Hans of the Southern Isles?

Ah, but Vespa Avenger reformed, and even saved Steve's life several times while they were employed with the USDoKYA.  It's all part of my headcanon, in Boyfriend Waiting Area (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1552), the QC spinoff comic-that-doesn't-exist in which Steve and the other boyfriends (and several girlfriends) regale each other with tales of adventure and derring-do while waiting for the smoke alarms to be turned off.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 09 Dec 2014, 22:53

Ah, but Vespa Avenger reformed, and even saved Steve's life several times while they were employed with the USDoKYA.  It's all part of my headcanon, in Boyfriend Waiting Area (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1552), the QC spinoff comic-that-doesn't-exist in which Steve and the other boyfriends (and several girlfriends) regale each other with tales of adventure and derring-do while waiting for the smoke alarms to be turned off.
This headcanon, tell me more...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Dec 2014, 23:30
The one thing that Marten didn't expect to happen today seems to have happened: he's found himself becoming Clinton's mentor in the ways of behaving like a mature man with women. It depends when Mr A ran off but it is possible that Clinton has not had a proper male role model since he started adolescence. His current template could be strangers and the TV. He could do worse than Marten, I suppose.

I've got the feeling that they are going to spend the walk to the library with Marten giving Clinton a crash-course in being nice instead of creepy. I can also see Marten whispering cues to Clinton whilst he is asking Emily out. Being Emily, she will see nothing odd about it.

Bonus point if, at some point, someone calls Marten 'Cyrano'.

It tells you a lot about how fundamentally nice Marten and Claire are. Now they are past the moment of the tease, they are genuinely focussed on making this work. Neither of them wants to see anyone hurt.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Dec 2014, 00:01
Even though the Emily/Clinton match-up will be fun to watch, I would have LOVED to see Faye's reaction to a suggestion about her and Clinton...  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 10 Dec 2014, 00:22
Ah, but Vespa Avenger reformed, and even saved Steve's life several times while they were employed with the USDoKYA.  It's all part of my headcanon, in Boyfriend Waiting Area (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1552), the QC spinoff comic-that-doesn't-exist in which Steve and the other boyfriends (and several girlfriends) regale each other with tales of adventure and derring-do while waiting for the smoke alarms to be turned off.

Do want.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Jimor on 10 Dec 2014, 01:20
If Jeph ever tended to fall into standard sitcom tropes, I'd expect Emily to misunderstand Marten as asking HER out when he tells her about Clinton. But Jeph rarely falls into such obvious storytelling, so I'd expect him to add his own twist even if that's what he's planning.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Dec 2014, 01:42
Well, it would be kind of awkward if Emily responds by telling Marten "I CAN'T date Clinton, I'm already dating YOU!"  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 02:00
@Lubricus,

I have a slight variant on this: Clinton is Claire's sister. Claire is dating Marten. Emily goes out with Clinton because (to quote her) "I'm dating Marten at one degree of separation!" Clinton remarks that it's the best deal he's likely to get, so he's going for it!

AWK-ward!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Dec 2014, 02:04
Ill accept any crazy explanation for Emily and Clinton dating if I get to see a family dinner including Marten, both Augustus siblings AND Emily!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 02:34
So... Looking at panel 3: Is Marten going to end up as Clinton's surrogate big brother figure? As Marten said to Faye at the Lakeside Party (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2298): "Looks like we've adopted another one!"
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: valkygrrl on 10 Dec 2014, 07:37
The one thing that Marten didn't expect to happen today seems to have happened: he's found himself becoming Clinton's mentor in the ways of behaving like a mature man with women. It depends when Mr A ran off but it is possible that Clinton has not had a proper male role model since he started adolescence. His current template could be strangers and the TV. He could do worse than Marten, I suppose.

Woah there. What exactly is the purpose of a "proper male role model?"

This is the patriarchy, different social pressures are placed on males and females but what is proper about it? Why do you think any failing on Clinton's part stems from a lack of proper role models?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 07:45
This is the patriarchy, different social pressures are placed on males and females but what is proper about it? Why do you think any failing on Clinton's part stems from a lack of proper role models?

We instinctively develop our behaviours, including social limits, on parental and other 'mentor' figures as we grow up. It is also the case that we tend to 'imprint' strongly on figures that we perceive to be of the same gender. This process is mostly subconscious. However, it does mean that it is quite possible that Clinton's emotional health and social awareness has been negatively impacted upon by the fact that the relationship between his father and mother had likely been unhealthy for some time at the time of his father's departure. This may have led him to internalise unhealthy behaviours as a 'proper' template for a male towards a female relative. It does not even have to have been openly abusive, only selfish, domineering and uncaring.

Marten is a very different personality from his and clearly has a lot more healthy and balanced viewpoint of women. Maybe, just maybe, by following Marten's lead, Clinton can interact with women in a way that is not possessive and/or almost completely uncaring of their feelings.

Males and females tend to have noticeably different behaviour. This is not only social (nurture) but also biological (nature) in origin. You may not like it but this is just a fact of what we as a species are. One of the things we learn from our gender-specific 'role models' (I use that term lacking anything else suitable) is how we interpret those instinctive drives in real life. Clinton's patterning is unfortunately a bit too aggressive and possessive. Marten may show him a different way.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: dexeron on 10 Dec 2014, 07:49
All I know is Claire and Marten are holding hands in the first panel so don't mind me, I'm just going to do a little happy dance over here.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 07:55
All I know is Claire and Marten are holding hands in the first panel so don't mind me, I'm just going to do a little happy dance over here.

Additionally, Clinton doesn't seem to mind (care) so, IMHO at least, he's accepted the relationship for now. If anything, he seems more focussed on the fact that Marten is going to introduce him to a girl!

I'm not sure how long it's been since the post-Wedding incident at the Library so I'm not sure how long it's been since Clinton last met Emily that we know of. I wonder how much he remembers about her?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 10 Dec 2014, 08:01
Emily is rather unforgettable, so he probably remembers quite a bit.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Dec 2014, 08:15
Males and females tend to have noticeably different behaviour. This is not only social (nurture) but also biological (nature) in origin. You may not like it but this is just a fact of what we as a species are. One of the things we learn from our gender-specific 'role models' (I use that term lacking anything else suitable) is how we interpret those instinctive drives in real life. Clinton's patterning is unfortunately a bit too aggressive and possessive. Marten may show him a different way.

There's no proof of this, by any standard of proof that makes good science. The differences between males and females as broad groups are often smaller than the differences between two individual males or females (or others).

Some of those differences are probably real, but which ones? Nobody knows. Find a source who thinks they've found a smoking gun, and you'll find a dozen peers poking real holes in their methodology. Indeed, since most of the work in this area is psychology, what you usually end up with is a detailed study of the white, middle class, college student.

If you've got to make sweeping generalizations about who people ought to build social structures, the most logical thing to do is assume that people are.

Do boys tend to start building identity by modeling men? Pretty much. Is that a good thing? I'm gonna have to say no. I live on Earth. I see the results of that. Gamergate. The inability to get movie about one of the bajillion woman superheroes made. Serious people seriously asking if Hillary Clinton can be President and a Grandmother at the same time.

Could Marten be a role model to Clinton? I suppose. He could do worse. But he could do just as well with Hanners as a role model (Be polite, push against your limitations, consider the wisdom offered by others, as a last resort: scream so loud it corrects vision defects).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 08:22
Do boys tend to start building identity by modeling men? Pretty much. Is that a good thing? I'm gonna have to say no.

The point is that the process is instinctual. So, whether or not it is a 'good' thing is meaningless. It simply imposes upon us the responsibility to be good role models. Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ankhtahr on 10 Dec 2014, 09:00
I wasn't so sure about it, but after rereading the archives a little I'd say that Emily and Clinton might actually fit together, if only as friends (hell, any regular social interaction might help Clinton). The way he is invested in AIs, his love for weird follow-ups, it might work. Also between 2068 and 2072 we can see that he is capable of kinda normal human interaction. Sure, he's stepping on some toes there, but it isn't too bad.

Edit: Also compare Emily's and Clinton reactions to seeing Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Cattus on 10 Dec 2014, 09:03
He's also got a massive entitlement complex, he's so protective of Claire that he's almost stifling (trying to take the role of the traditional father who locks a daughter away from potential suitors), and he has no understanding of boundaries.

Eh, I think that's kind of harsh and a bit unfair. From his response at Emily's party when Claire tells him that she told Marten about being trans, his immediate reaction was "He wasn't a JERK about it, was he?" suggesting that Claire has frequently been the target of bullies. Claire didn't start off her arc having high-flying self esteem, so this may have been an issue. Also, their father fucked over their mother by cheating. That likely pushed Clinton into overdrive, not wanting another male to hurt the women in his life.

Also, Clinton's not, IMO, acted in the way you suggest. He didn't even pitch a fit when Claire told him that she and Marten were dating. He was mildly snarky about it. I actually thought Claire's "can't you be happy for me?!" was a bit overwrought there. It's not like he threatened to castrate Marten or suggesting pistols at dawn or somesuch.

I sort of feel about Clinton what I've felt about Dora. A couple of mistakes and anything they do is viewed through a cynical lens. No one is disputing that Clinton was extremely creepy toward Hannelore. But it's been ages since then and he's acted like less of a disaster in subsequent meetings. He loves his sister. He's not keeping her in shackles or guilt-tripping her for having a life. He's a 21 year old who has had to deal with a lot of shit - losing his hand, losing his father, and adjusting to having a sister. All things considered, he's not such a bad egg, in my view.

I'm glad someone took the time to write what many of us are thinking.  There's no doubt that Clinton presents a crusty or cranky demeanor but I also think it's self (and Claire) preservation and protection.  He realizes that he is not a shining example of either machismo or personality and he tries to be 'tough' but I think he's a good person at heart.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Cattus on 10 Dec 2014, 09:11
If Jeph ever tended to fall into standard sitcom tropes, I'd expect Emily to misunderstand Marten as asking HER out when he tells her about Clinton. But Jeph rarely falls into such obvious storytelling, so I'd expect him to add his own twist even if that's what he's planning.

Fortunately, I don't think Jeph would ever do that.  I do not remember any time that a redonculous 'rom-com' misunderstanding formed the basis for a QC theme thread.  It's one of the things I enjoy about QC - Our 'friends' in the QC world act the way we generally would see them act in our world, perhaps even with less drama.  That's why they are endearing.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 10 Dec 2014, 09:28
I wasn't so sure about it, but after rereading the archives a little I'd say that Emily and Clinton might actually fit together, if only as friends (hell, any regular social interaction might help Clinton). The way he is invested in AIs, his love for weird follow-ups, it might work. Also between 2068 and 2072 we can see that he is capable of kinda normal human interaction. Sure, he's stepping on some toes there, but it isn't too bad.

Edit: Also compare Emily's and Clinton reactions to seeing Momo.

I pretty much agree with this.  Claire gets as excited about library science  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2208) as Clinton does about science (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1902) and technology (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2068); I think Claire has had the opportunity to get her chill on as a result of hanging out with Marten and the gang.

It'll be neat to see if Clinton is allowed to develop beyond his initial definition, and double plus neat if Emily develops alongside - even, perhaps especially, if the relationship is platonic.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: NilsO on 10 Dec 2014, 09:30
Well, it would be kind of awkward if Emily responds by telling Marten "I CAN'T date Clinton, I'm already dating YOU!"  :evil:
Ouch. But not entirely impossible. Emily might consider the smooch to be the beginning of a committed relationship with Marten. Claire is going to believe this, and will accuse Marten of cheating on Emily. Things will go downward from there.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 10 Dec 2014, 10:44
Ouch. But not entirely impossible. Emily might consider the smooch to be the beginning of a committed relationship with Marten. Claire is going to believe this, and will accuse Marten of cheating on Emily. Things will go downward from there.
No way. Leave the couple to have at least a few months of a happy relationship, even Dora had that.

Marten and Claire should be the B-Couple for a while. Leave the A-Couple problems to Faye and (maybe) Sven.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Emily already knows. Tai, remember?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 10 Dec 2014, 11:19
@Lubricus,

I have a slight variant on this: Clinton is Claire's sister. Claire is dating Marten. Emily goes out with Clinton because (to quote her) "I'm dating Marten at one degree of separation!" Clinton remarks that it's the best deal he's likely to get, so he's going for it!

AWK-ward!

Possible, but you may be just grep-sing as straws there. I think what Duck sed is more likely.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 10 Dec 2014, 11:38
All these CATs around and their *nix puns. Why tho. Why did we descend into that. LESS PUNNING, MORE COMIC DISCUSSION.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 10 Dec 2014, 13:11
Yes! Let's swap all these puns for more pages of comic discussion.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Dec 2014, 13:39
Do boys tend to start building identity by modeling men? Pretty much. Is that a good thing? I'm gonna have to say no.

The point is that the process is instinctual. So, whether or not it is a 'good' thing is meaningless. It simply imposes upon us the responsibility to be good role models. Unfortunately, it doesn't always happen.

My point is that there's literally (not figuratively) no evidence of any such instinctive process. We simply do not know if the effect is nature or nurture. Male and female are facts of the species. Man and woman are constructs. You can't assemble the thought "Boys unconsciously look to men as role models" without first understanding the construct exists. It's equally likely that boys look to men, not as "role models" so much as "clues as to how the construct works."

Its not the same thing. If instinct is involved in the latter, its no different than the instinct to bang on pots. There is a thing. What happens when I poke the thing?

Clinton has issues but there's no reason, yet, to trace those issues to abandonment. Certainly no reason to trace them to lack of a penis weilding authority figure. They might derive from Clinton being kind of a jerk. Or maybe they come of Clinton being short, scrawny, bookish, and younger sibling to a "non-standard" person. Kids are cruel to that which is different, and Clinton is pretty much different in all aspects. Also: ginger.

Whatever your theory of mind, children want approval from their elders. Claire's behavior would suggest that Clinton is constantly on the cusp of that from her. She disapproves, vociferously, but then adds a sideways compliment. That doesn't explain anything other than their relationship. One, standard, sibling rivalry.

Beyond that, Clinton has shown a "Lack of boundaries" and a "Tendency to try to share his excitement in inappropriate ways." In short, he's a fairly typical man (Even in the QCverse. Martin is atypical of male characters...shit, he's atypical of characters. Pretty much the only other character to show his level of reserve is Henry. The apple didn't fall far, if it fell at all). As a human male with no interest in sportsball, I can tell you that other human males--and more than a few females--don't grasp that it's not an appropriate topic with me. For sometime I managed to run in groups of like minded humans, but there was always someone who had to geek out about the Worldbowl or Super Series. Clinton happens to geek out about something that the majority doesn't care about. He's a sports fan in a town full of rabid ballet enthusiasts.

He's still got issues, but he's never actually done anything worse than things Sven, Angus, Steve, and Dale have done. He just catches more shit than most of the cast.

Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 10 Dec 2014, 15:55
Whether it is instinctual or cultural typically boys imprint what they see as "being a man" from what they see around them and then accordingly will then become that impression. So either way the end result is the same Clinton possibly not having positive male role models to imprint on may have negatively affected his personality. Moreover Marten's seemingly chill attitude may have a positive effect on Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Dec 2014, 16:39
Whether it is instinctual or cultural typically boys imprint what they see as "being a man" from what they see around them and then accordingly will then become that impression. So either way the end result is the same Clinton possibly not having positive male role models to imprint on may have negatively affected his personality. Moreover Marten's seemingly chill attitude may have a positive effect on Clinton.

This presupposes that Mrs Agustus was incapable of raising here son without a strong man to do the heavy lifting.

That's the patriarchy talking. That's why valkygrrl was right in the first place. Nature is an appeal to facts not in evidence. Clinton's issues as the result of a broken home is an appeal to facts not in evidence. EVERYONE is like Clinton. It's just that most people's boundary breaking and excessive enthusiasm is socially accepted. Marten will drop into a digression on bands you've never heard of in a heartbeat. Faye will straight up assault and batter you.

Clinton can be a dick, but he's no worse in that category than Sven. It's easy to think of him as a villian because he was a threat to Hanners for a moment. But, I submit that his reaction was fairly normal. First, he'd basically just met his own personal Jesus. Second, the creepy he was about to pull reduces to the same kind of shit people pull on celebrities all the time. All things considered, Hanners is a celebrity. The only reason TMZ isn't camped out in front of the building is likely that Beatrice A) paid off all the editors, B) had every editor who looked at the story sideways killed, and their families, and their dogs too, C) owns TMZ. (Station is probably also involved.)

When confronted with the fact that Hannelore Ellicott-Chatham is a person with friends and a life, he not only backed down, he kept the secret (evidenced by the fact that May was shocked to find Hanners. Given the AI's who have met Hanners and not realized who she was, it's likely that the media doesn't even have a good idea what she looks like. Clinton knows but hasn't told anyone).

Clinton is overly passionate and a little self absorbed. Compare to Claire who has displayed the same tendencies (First appearance, ear rings--several times). No one's making the argument that Mrs. Augustus was poor role model to Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 10 Dec 2014, 16:41
Also: ginger.

Ginger men catch way too much flak for their hair color. Most get teased the hell out of for it, and not just in the UK, even out here in southern California. I had one scout in my troop dye his hair for months before he finally committed suicide because of the teasing and unkindness, at school and at scouts.
While women catch some of it too and catch some different flak (fetishism and stereotypes based on the Fiery redhead trope), it is usually seen as an addition to charm/beauty/power.

This could be a part of Clinton's character, who knows how much he got teased for it himself as a youth? For that and for his loss of a hand. Projecting a tough attitude as a way of dealing with outside pressures isn't uncommon at all. He also probably felt the need to protect Claire while she was figuring out her gender, and was almost certainly getting teased by both boys and girls
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 10 Dec 2014, 16:47
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Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Dec 2014, 17:14
The way Clinton acted toward Momo weighs against him in my opinion. Though, on the other discussion, there's no logical connection between mistreating robots and missing a father figure.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Dec 2014, 17:41
The only reason TMZ isn't camped out in front of the building is likely that Beatrice A) paid off all the editors, B) had every editor who looked at the story sideways killed, and their families, and their dogs too, C) owns TMZ. (Station is probably also involved.)

OR... TMZ doesn't exist in the QC universe.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ASB84 on 10 Dec 2014, 17:45
Eh, I think that's kind of harsh and a bit unfair. From his response at Emily's party when Claire tells him that she told Marten about being trans, his immediate reaction was "He wasn't a JERK about it, was he?" suggesting that Claire has frequently been the target of bullies. Claire didn't start off her arc having high-flying self esteem, so this may have been an issue. Also, their father fucked over their mother by cheating. That likely pushed Clinton into overdrive, not wanting another male to hurt the women in his life.

Also, Clinton's not, IMO, acted in the way you suggest. He didn't even pitch a fit when Claire told him that she and Marten were dating. He was mildly snarky about it. I actually thought Claire's "can't you be happy for me?!" was a bit overwrought there. It's not like he threatened to castrate Marten or suggesting pistols at dawn or somesuch.

I sort of feel about Clinton what I've felt about Dora. A couple of mistakes and anything they do is viewed through a cynical lens. No one is disputing that Clinton was extremely creepy toward Hannelore. But it's been ages since then and he's acted like less of a disaster in subsequent meetings. He loves his sister. He's not keeping her in shackles or guilt-tripping her for having a life. He's a 21 year old who has had to deal with a lot of shit - losing his hand, losing his father, and adjusting to having a sister. All things considered, he's not such a bad egg, in my view.

The one thing that Marten didn't expect to happen today seems to have happened: he's found himself becoming Clinton's mentor in the ways of behaving like a mature man with women. It depends when Mr A ran off but it is possible that Clinton has not had a proper male role model since he started adolescence. His current template could be strangers and the TV. He could do worse than Marten, I suppose.

I agree completely, on all counts. Clinton is not without his faults, and he's not a great judge of character, but I don't think his concern for his sister comes from a bad place, or that he's a terrible, irredeemable jerk. I actually think his behaviour and attitude in the past few strips has been an improvement on what we've seen in the past. He still has some growing up to do, some perspective to gain, and arguably some behaviour to atone for. But he's hardly a complete monster.

On the other hand, though, I have to admit that I'm liking Claire a lot less at the moment. Look at the things she's saying to or about Clinton in his presence. To be honest, they're kind of mean, and hypocritical from someone who has her own social awkwardness and insecurities. She's previously admitted that he's "fun to pick on"...when it comes down to it, I think that Claire is just as antagonistic as Clinton, and that probably plays into some of his issues.

It's a shame, because Claire should be one of my favourites, as she's interesting and I love puns. But yeah, the way she keeps putting Clinton down...well, she doesn't come off as being any better than he is, and I'm finding myself souring on her as a character because of that.

As for Gabby, I actually think it was a good decision to put her on a bus. Without much of a character, she was just another lady in a comic whose cast is primarily made up of women to begin with, so she got lost in the shuffle. It doesn't help that she was introduced at the same time as two characters that facilitate interesting story arcs and good punchlines (Claire), and amusing non-sequitur humour (Emily). It's also realistic in that not everyone you meet is going to stick around, people do changes courses/schools/career paths etc, and not everyone is going to become a close friend or member of the social circle.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 10 Dec 2014, 18:55
New comic is theoretically up (though it's currently a broken image).

The text under it says "Emily was an excellent student." Which now has me worried that Clinton has accidentally killed her.  :psyduck:

edit -- (It's working now) Yeah, that happened a few times with Mathematica notebooks I've written.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Srxjo on 10 Dec 2014, 18:57
No broken link on my side, you might want to refresh, the comic goes onto show how Clinton knows Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ankhtahr on 10 Dec 2014, 18:58
Heh. Hehehehe, this comic is nice. I like it. So Clinton thinks Emily outweirds him?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Nepiophage on 10 Dec 2014, 19:16
I don't understand why everyone ( in the comic) seems to have forgotten that Clinton has met Emily before, in the library and at the lake party, where she was the hostess.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: sluthy on 10 Dec 2014, 19:26
Is this a Dune reference? I haven't read it yet. Who's the NRO? Also, I kinda miss Emily's longer hair.

Also, never heard of any of Jeph's Top 10 again. Although I bought Disclosure's "Settle" on his advice and that bored me.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Nyithra on 10 Dec 2014, 19:27
I have no idea what clinton is saying in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Aziraphale on 10 Dec 2014, 19:34
Why wouldn't this have come up at one of their earlier meetings? It's not like this is the first time he's seen her (or interacted with her).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 10 Dec 2014, 19:37
I don't understand why everyone ( in the comic) seems to have forgotten that Clinton has met Emily before, in the library and at the lake party, where she was the hostess.

Jeph forgot. But he remembered and corrected the mistake yesterday. But not today.

Welcome to the horrors of working ahead!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Dec 2014, 19:37
I have no idea what clinton is saying in the last panel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office
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Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Dec 2014, 19:42
My guess is, he recognized Emily before, but since he didn't have much connection with her at the lake house or the library, he probably didn't think much about her (or even remember her name well enough to make the connection in Monday's strip).  Now, though, seeing her as a potential future date, he's made the connection that That Girl From Computer Sciences = Emily the Intern = someone Marten and my sister want to set me up with?!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: wlewisiii on 10 Dec 2014, 19:44
Also, never heard of any of Jeph's Top 10 again. Although I bought Disclosure's "Settle" on his advice and that bored me.

If you like electronica or techno, the Aphex Twin release "Syro" is excellent.

But I had more success the other night when he was tweeting about bands and youtube videos. Learned about "Scale the Summit" and "Animals As Leaders" both instrumental metal bands that made my day and drained my wallet badly.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Estron on 10 Dec 2014, 19:49
My guess is, he recognized Emily before, but since he didn't have much connection with her at the lake house or the library, he probably didn't think much about her (or even remember her name well enough to make the connection in Monday's strip).
I would think her demand for an interview, calling him "Mister Robot Hand" in the library,  would be hard to forget.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Dalillama on 10 Dec 2014, 20:01
Is this a Dune reference? I haven't read it yet. Who's the NRO?
I don't see any Dune references.  The NRO can stand for a lot of things, but I'm guessing that Clinton means the National Reconnaissance Office (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office)
I have no idea what clinton is saying in the last panel.
That the National Reconnaissance Office used an Electromagnetic Pulse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse) (something which has extremely deleterious effects on many electronics and especially non-optical computer parts) to destroy Emily's final project, as a precautionary measure.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 10 Dec 2014, 20:13
"Types of Frogs?"

Also, I'm going to make Emily and her glowing laptop my new GRUB splash page.
8-)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 10 Dec 2014, 20:21
This flashback is another hint at how QC will end.   Some nameless horror will use Hannelore's ear piercings to manifest itself in reality and destroy the Earth. 
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: greywolfe on 10 Dec 2014, 20:57
"Types of Frogs?"


I actually thought it was 'types of farts', which would fit in more with QC
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 10 Dec 2014, 20:59
Even more confirmation that Emily and Clinton share similar interests! The more I think about this the more I want Clinton/Emily to happen and work, although I think he'll need to chill out a little more.

Humor-wise he could make an excellent straight-man to Emily's bizarre antics
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: lot_jockey on 10 Dec 2014, 21:01
I don't understand why everyone ( in the comic) seems to have forgotten that Clinton has met Emily before, in the library and at the lake party, where she was the hostess.

Jeph forgot. But he remembered and corrected the mistake yesterday. But not today.

Welcome to the horrors of working ahead!

What did the original comic say a couple of days ago?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 10 Dec 2014, 21:17
What did the original comic say a couple of days ago?

'Let's introduce him to Emily' changed to 'Let's set him up with Emily'.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Dec 2014, 21:43
That the National Reconnaissance Office used an Electromagnetic Pulse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse) (something which has extremely deleterious effects on many electronics and especially non-optical computer parts) to destroy Emily's final project, as a precautionary measure.

Ahh, now it makes sense.


Also: Jeph's been on a roll with a the "cute smiling girl in a dress" this week.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: lot_jockey on 10 Dec 2014, 21:53
What did the original comic say a couple of days ago?

'Let's introduce him to Emily' changed to 'Let's set him up with Emily'.

Ah, thanks!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 10 Dec 2014, 22:11
Mauve glow


Definitely not Sauron then.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Indicible on 10 Dec 2014, 22:18
The colour out of space is indeed more likely...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: vforvancouver on 10 Dec 2014, 22:22
Now I want to know more about Emily's project.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jheartney on 10 Dec 2014, 22:39
If you remember, Clinton was introduced as an interviewer asking Marten about his AnthroPC, Pintsize. Remember also that Pintsize has a "military chassis." Was the interview really just part of an academic study, or might it have had national security implications? Clinton may have more to him than it appears; if he's part of clandestine services of some sort, his protective attitude toward his sister may be based on knowledge of secret threats.

I was wondering what "NRO" could be. (Obviously not "National Review Online.") Given Clinton's involvement with robotics (his hand, and his part in AnthroPC research), it could be "National Robotics Office." As to "EMPing" her project, if it's supposed to mean "electromagnetic pulse," that seems a pretty blunt instrument to use if you just want to bork a student's project. It would likely destroy lots of surrounding electronics and call attention to itself. Further, it wouldn't do something amusing like replace text with eldritch runes; it'd fry her logic board and wipe her hard drive. Instead, I'm guessing EMP is some sort of targeted virus.

In the flashback, Emily has her long hair, so that must be before the trip out to the lake house. Clinton would have to have known about Emily at that time, so I don't know why he is acting surprised now.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Dec 2014, 22:47
In the flashback, Emily has her long hair, so that must be before the trip out to the lake house. Clinton would have to have known about Emily at that time, so I don't know why he is acting surprised now.

Yeah, there's a bit of handwaving about that in the last few strips - we have seen Emily and Clinton interact a few times earlier, and Clinton KNOWS Marten and Emily work together, so why the surprise? Make little sense.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zandin on 10 Dec 2014, 22:50
I was wondering what "NRO" could be. (Obviously not "National Review Online.") Given Clinton's involvement with robotics (his hand, and his part in AnthroPC research), it could be "National Robotics Office." As to "EMPing" her project, if it's supposed to mean "electromagnetic pulse," that seems a pretty blunt instrument to use if you just want to bork a student's project. It would likely destroy lots of surrounding electronics and call attention to itself. Further, it wouldn't do something amusing like replace text with eldritch runes; it'd fry her logic board and wipe her hard drive. Instead, I'm guessing EMP is some sort of targeted virus.
I'm almost positive NRO means National Reconnaissance Office, one of the USA's intelligence divisions. As for the EMP, I think the runes were BEFORE they EMP'ed her. She created a dangerous AI and they fried it in response. Since Clinton knows about it, it obviously was not meant to be secretive. Which begs the question of how Emily created something so dangerous the US government decided it necessary to launch a very public, very messy attack on it?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Dec 2014, 22:59
Good luck employing an EMP to take out a single computer... I guess the whole class lost their data that day. At the very least.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Platypodes on 10 Dec 2014, 23:03
I will GLADLY pretend that Clinton and Emily have never interacted on-screen before.  Anything to allow this arc to continue unimpeded because it is already FUNNY AS HELL.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zandin on 10 Dec 2014, 23:07
Good luck employing an EMP to take out a single computer... I guess the whole class lost their data that day. At the very least.

Assuming they hit the whole class. It could also have been a tactical hit. Bust in the doors, grab the laptop, put a dome over it and *zap*. Given the technology seen in QC, a small EMP device, maybe a grenade, with a few feet of range is totally plausible as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zemyla on 10 Dec 2014, 23:23
So there is someone who is more screwed-up with technology than Raven "time-traveling espressosaur" Pritchard is?

Also, I am sad that Gabby is no longer with the interns.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 23:24
Ah! So there's some history here, then! Interesting that Clinton didn't know that "the crazy one" was Emily. I wonder what the other students called her? Certainly, it explains why Marten's circle are her only friends; students tend to be unforgiving of walking, talking disasters in their class. In any case, it's an unexpected wrinkle and a serious speed hump; it looks like that Clinton is scared of Emily!

"Types of Frogs?"

Probably research that she's doing for the next time that she meets Sam.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Stoon on 10 Dec 2014, 23:25
Yes, that's something that would happen to Emily all right.

As for EMP, maybe that's just slang for magnetic degaussing.   We use powerful electromagnets in electronics and when I was in the army for clearing the data off of certain secure mediums...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 10 Dec 2014, 23:29
The colour out of space is indeed more likely...

One must be careful when using Cthubuntu, lest these things happen.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jheartney on 10 Dec 2014, 23:35
I was wondering what "NRO" could be. (Obviously not "National Review Online.") Given Clinton's involvement with robotics (his hand, and his part in AnthroPC research), it could be "National Robotics Office." As to "EMPing" her project, if it's supposed to mean "electromagnetic pulse," that seems a pretty blunt instrument to use if you just want to bork a student's project. It would likely destroy lots of surrounding electronics and call attention to itself. Further, it wouldn't do something amusing like replace text with eldritch runes; it'd fry her logic board and wipe her hard drive. Instead, I'm guessing EMP is some sort of targeted virus.
I'm almost positive NRO means National Reconnaissance Office, one of the USA's intelligence divisions. As for the EMP, I think the runes were BEFORE they EMP'ed her. She created a dangerous AI and they fried it in response. Since Clinton knows about it, it obviously was not meant to be secretive. Which begs the question of how Emily created something so dangerous the US government decided it necessary to launch a very public, very messy attack on it?
From the National Reconnaissance Office website: "The NRO is the U.S. Government agency in charge of designing, building, launching, and maintaining America’s intelligence satellites. " This is not an agency that would launch an open enforcement action inside U.S. borders. For that you would see the FBI.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Dec 2014, 23:37
Y'know, I really want to know what that final project was that it was classified as an immediate threat to national security! It looks to me that the forum member that called Emily an idiot-savant was right. She's quite possibly a genius but without common sense!

This fits into an idea that I had yesterday: I think that, tomorrow, Marten will persuade Clinton to at least talk to Emily. Next week will be entirely this otherworldly dialogue between them. At the end of this, Clinton will realise what the rest of us already know - that Emily is weird but nice. It isn't guaranteed that they'll immediately get together but they will become friends.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jheartney on 10 Dec 2014, 23:41
Good luck employing an EMP to take out a single computer... I guess the whole class lost their data that day. At the very least.

Assuming they hit the whole class. It could also have been a tactical hit. Bust in the doors, grab the laptop, put a dome over it and *zap*. Given the technology seen in QC, a small EMP device, maybe a grenade, with a few feet of range is totally plausible as well.

Why in the world would they do that? In the U.S. you'd need a warrant at the very least, and afterwards they'd need to arrest Emily to justify the break-in. Much more likely you'd send a worm to quietly corrupt the project data. This would stop it from compiling and show junk data if you opened the project.

Of course the fictional "National Robotics Office" might not even be part of  the U.S. government. If they're hiring the likes of Clinton, they're probably not.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 10 Dec 2014, 23:55
Man, the last time I tried to import cthulhu.h into my projects they just segfaulted.

I like where this whole story is going. Maybe Emily can get Clinton to chill, since if she didn't she could always use her evil powers (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2282) or something.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 11 Dec 2014, 00:16
The code will only run when the stars are right.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Akima on 11 Dec 2014, 00:23
In the U.S. you'd need a warrant at the very least
Just the same way you would for tapping people's phone calls! Oh wait...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrantless_searches_in_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(2001%E2%80%9307)

If warrantless intervention is justified by mere espionage and terrorism, would the USA baulk at it to preserve the structure of reality from a potential portal to unimaginable horrors from beyond?

That brown dress does nothing for Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zandin on 11 Dec 2014, 00:26
From the National Reconnaissance Office website: "The NRO is the U.S. Government agency in charge of designing, building, launching, and maintaining America’s intelligence satellites. " This is not an agency that would launch an open enforcement action inside U.S. borders. For that you would see the FBI.

Jeph would not use an already existing acronym for a new agency. It makes zero sense, and he puts too much effort into these for something that lazy. The NRO is an intelligence agency that uses satellites to spy, so we can either assume they were watching Emily, or that her AI tried to access the network. That would make it an NRO matter, no matter who they worked with to execute the shutdown order.

Why in the world would they do that? In the U.S. you'd need a warrant at the very least, and afterwards they'd need to arrest Emily to justify the break-in. Much more likely you'd send a worm to quietly corrupt the project data. This would stop it from compiling and show junk data if you opened the project.

Of course the fictional "National Robotics Office" might not even be part of  the U.S. government. If they're hiring the likes of Clinton, they're probably not.

Absolutely zero evidence Clinton works for them at all, and a warrant is absolutely not needed for anything considered a national security threat or that infiltrates their system first. It clearly was not a virus or worm since Jeph said an EMP was used, ergo one was used. The title of the strip is "From Orbit, No less" so there's your satellite link if you need it. I'll admit that the tactical squad thing was mostly for my own headcanon, since I like the idea of big scary men ruining a science project, but the evidence obviously disproves that.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 11 Dec 2014, 00:48
The code will only run when the stars are right.

Gibbous! GIBBOUS I SAY! THE MOON WAS GIBBOUS UPON THE EVE OF THE PROJECT!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jheartney on 11 Dec 2014, 00:50
From the National Reconnaissance Office website: "The NRO is the U.S. Government agency in charge of designing, building, launching, and maintaining America’s intelligence satellites. " This is not an agency that would launch an open enforcement action inside U.S. borders. For that you would see the FBI.

Jeph would not use an already existing acronym for a new agency. It makes zero sense, and he puts too much effort into these for something that lazy. The NRO is an intelligence agency that uses satellites to spy, so we can either assume they were watching Emily, or that her AI tried to access the network. That would make it an NRO matter, no matter who they worked with to execute the shutdown order.

The NRO is a satellite launch and maintenance agency, not an intelligence gathering operation. They send the hardware up and make sure it's running smoothly. CIA and NSA actually run intelligence gathering operations. The NRO is a glorified trucking company.

Why in the world would they do that? In the U.S. you'd need a warrant at the very least, and afterwards they'd need to arrest Emily to justify the break-in. Much more likely you'd send a worm to quietly corrupt the project data. This would stop it from compiling and show junk data if you opened the project.

Of course the fictional "National Robotics Office" might not even be part of  the U.S. government. If they're hiring the likes of Clinton, they're probably not.

Absolutely zero evidence Clinton works for them at all, and a warrant is absolutely not needed for anything considered a national security threat or that infiltrates their system first. It clearly was not a virus or worm since Jeph said an EMP was used, ergo one was used. The title of the strip is "From Orbit, No less" so there's your satellite link if you need it. I'll admit that the tactical squad thing was mostly for my own headcanon, since I like the idea of big scary men ruining a science project, but the evidence obviously disproves that.

If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack? Was it in the papers? WRT an EMP from orbit, that wouldn't just take out all the electronics in the class; it'd take out the whole eastern seaboard.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 11 Dec 2014, 00:55
If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack? Was it in the papers? WRT an EMP from orbit, that wouldn't just take out all the electronics in the class; it'd take out the whole eastern seaboard.

Maybe his hand went fuck all. Seems the most plausible explanation.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 11 Dec 2014, 00:57
If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack?

Clinton: "So how was your weekend?"
Emily: "Some men from NRO came and EMPed my final project ^_^"
Clinton: "...uh".
Emily: "I also learned some new facts about bunnies!"
Clinton: "..."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Dec 2014, 01:08
If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack? Was it in the papers? WRT an EMP from orbit, that wouldn't just take out all the electronics in the class; it'd take out the whole eastern seaboard.

Maybe his hand went fuck all. Seems the most plausible explanation.

To me, the simplest explanation is that the merry, merry funny men from the [Classified Alphabet Agency] burst into the lecture hall and used some kind of small-radius man-carried computer-killer (possibly a weapon designed originally to kill runaway military AIs) in front of everyone. Then, they apologised to Emily with a bogus-sounding explanation regarding 'national security', gave her a replacement laptop (which, mysteriously, had the same image as her last cloud backup, minus the class project) and everyone was informed "This never happened".

I'm hoping that, when Clinton is chivvied over to Emily (probably tomorrow), she'll call him "Mega Man". She'll then remind him of her question many months ago as to whether Robo-hand can shoot death rays and explain that this is how she remembers him. Clinton will then admit that this is the most complimentary nickname that he has ever had and the conversation will move forward from there next week.

I'm also predicting that Clinton will make a stuttering, stumbling mess out of asking Emily to a lunch date. Emily will say "Yes, please!" and Marten will tell Claire that Clinton did better than he did with his first GF back in California.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 11 Dec 2014, 01:17
If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack?

Clinton: "So how was your weekend?"
Emily: "Some men from NRO came and EMPed my final project ^_^"
Clinton: "...uh".
Emily: "I also learned some new facts about bunnies!"
Clinton: "..."
I've got a theory, it must be bunnies. </Anya>
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zandin on 11 Dec 2014, 01:44
The NRO is a satellite launch and maintenance agency, not an intelligence gathering operation. They send the hardware up and make sure it's running smoothly. CIA and NSA actually run intelligence gathering operations. The NRO is a glorified trucking company.

"It designs, builds, and operates the spy satellites of the United States government, and provides satellite intelligence to several government agencies, particularly signals intelligence (SIGINT) to the NSA, imagery intelligence (IMINT) to the NGA, and measurement and signature intelligence (MASINT) to the DIA." Doesn't sound like a trucking company. Sounds like they actually run the satellites for every government agency in the USA. Makes them pretty damn important.

If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack? Was it in the papers? WRT an EMP from orbit, that wouldn't just take out all the electronics in the class; it'd take out the whole eastern seaboard.

He was probably in class when she was visited by agents. Even if they hit her from orbit someone would need to come visit her for a debrief. This is a universe where a laser powerful enough to cut through steel fit in a tube the size of a laser pointer in our world. A directed EMP from space is far from the least far fetched thing in this universe. Occam's Razor says that the simplest explanation is most likely correct, and arguing that the comic is straight up wrong about its own canon is far from the simplest explanation.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ZoeB on 11 Dec 2014, 02:59
I hope that Emily and Clinton hit it off, even if only as friends. Neither seem to grasp many social concepts - boundaries for one thing. Emily is quirky but nice, Clinton inept but gallant.
Ah.
NRO.
Upgrade "Quirky" to "Weird". But in the nicest possible way. The way Steven Hawking, Einstein, etc are weird. Only more so.
It's entirely possible that the greater AIs might be very interested in her.

I know some people like her. They don't actually inhabit this world, or at least, don't fully participate in the consensual picture we call "reality". They have better things to do with their time, more interesting things.  Often it's not so much intelligence as talent, thinking that happens without conscious awareness, there's no need for self-aware monitoring of the process.

Of course it's a comic strip, so this might be taken to extremes.

(https://scontent-a-nrt.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1549472_10202000733233343_871557298_n.jpg?oh=194813d881bf9dce60e4dad5f86d305f&oe=55180964)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ZoeB on 11 Dec 2014, 03:02
Well, non-Euclidean geometry does have practical applications! Really! Ftaghn.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: KOK on 11 Dec 2014, 06:50
Now I want to know more about Emily's project.

No you don't. Trust me on this: you do not want to know anout Emily's project.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Dec 2014, 06:59
What if Emily's project turned out to be May and she somehow escaped the EMPing. Regardless of truth this is now my headcannon.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Dec 2014, 07:07
Noodle Incident, anyone? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoodleIncident)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 11 Dec 2014, 07:08
Headcannon accepted, although she's surprisingly cute and harmless for an eldritch horror then.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Dec 2014, 07:09
Yeah, they all start out that way. And then, just when they have you off guard, WHAM! Out come the tentacles.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 11 Dec 2014, 07:11
For some reason I now want to stay away from you Zeb. I mean, you seen your avatar?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Dec 2014, 07:12
For future reference, if you accidentally create an Eldritch horror with Mathematica, the correct command to use is:
Code: [Select]
Off[Cthulhu::ftaghn]
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 11 Dec 2014, 07:54
Why isn't Emily now working for the Black Chamber, and why weren't her classmates put under a geas? Is this story taking place after CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Dec 2014, 08:05
For some reason I now want to stay away from you Zeb. I mean, you seen your avatar?

What, you think I might be a demon bandicoot from beyond time and space?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: allanjm on 11 Dec 2014, 08:09
If this strip isn't a reference to Charles Stross' Laundry file series it really should be.

For anyone who doesn't know it the Laundry Files is basically a cross between Len Deighton  an HP Lovecraft. It is set in a universe where magic and math are the same thing and the wrong fractal screen saver can blow Wolverhampton off the map, zombies make great night watchmen, and the old one are awakening.

The hero, Bob Howard, is a systems administrator / supernatural spy working in a British bureaucratic spy agencies. 

“Saving the world is Bob Howard’s job. There are a surprising number of meetings involved.”

"The name is Howard. Bob Howard. Please don't hurt me..."

edit: I see zmeiat_joro got it too.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Dec 2014, 08:11
For some reason I now want to stay away from you Zeb. I mean, you seen your avatar?

What, you think I might be a demon bandicoot from beyond time and space?

(click to show/hide)

Those 'palate cleanser' comics were fascinating in their own way. I think that was Jeph trying to develop another, completely separate continuity but still published under the 'Questionable Content' name so he could take a breather from the main characters and plot. Tim Buckley on Ctrl+Alt+Del has tried the same thing with varying levels of success.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: TransAmber on 11 Dec 2014, 08:21
Wasn't SMIF a women's only college? Why are there males in the classroom?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Dec 2014, 08:25
Along a similar vein: Doesn't Clinton go to UMass?

Maybe Emily transferred after that incident.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 11 Dec 2014, 08:30
For some reason I now want to stay away from you Zeb. I mean, you seen your avatar?

What, you think I might be a demon bandicoot from beyond time and space?

(click to show/hide)

Those 'palate cleanser' comics were fascinating in their own way. I think that was Jeph trying to develop another, completely separate continuity but still published under the 'Questionable Content' name so he could take a breather from the main characters and plot. Tim Buckley on Ctrl+Alt+Del has tried the same thing with varying levels of success.

I think he might. Hasn't he had other sweet tits Harriett breaks for christmas times?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Case on 11 Dec 2014, 08:40
If this strip isn't a reference to Charles Stross' Laundry file series it really should be.

For anyone who doesn't know it the Laundry Files is basically a cross between Len Deighton  an HP Lovecraft. It is set in a universe where magic and math are the same thing and the wrong fractal screen saver can blow Wolverhampton off the map, zombies make great night watchmen, and the old one are awakening.

The hero, Bob Howard, is a systems administrator / supernatural spy working in a British bureaucratic spy agencies. 

“Saving the world is Bob Howard’s job. There are a surprising number of meetings involved.”

"The name is Howard. Bob Howard. Please don't hurt me..."

edit: I see zmeiat_joro got it too.

The "computational Demonology"-concept is definately a reference to the Laundry series (mathematics is actually magic, and doing the right wrong type of computations, you can open gates to parallel dimensions and summon the denizens of those planes to do your bidding. Or, more likely, eat parts of your brain. If you're lucky, that is ...).

Makes me wonder though: In the Laundry-Universe, people who accidentally stumble upon "Turing's last theorem", or other "weaponizable math" will immediately be spotted and drafted by the local variant of the MiB.
In Great Britain, this is the last surviving branch of the Special Operations Department of WW-II fame, who are all kinds of bad news. Drafting you for life and slapping a geas onto you that will squeeze your brain out of your ears as soon as you even think about telling somebody about the existence of your security clearance is just the start of it.
Given that most of their older staff hold ranks like DSS ("Deeply Scary Sorcerer" in Laundry-speak) while most of the younger hold degrees in computer science, maths or theoretical physics and were drafted while unwittingly attempting to release the taumaturgical equivalent of a mid-sized nuke onto Manchester, that does make some sense.
Service in the Laundry does not end with death, though - most of the on-site security staff are actually zombified former employees ...

In the US, the MiB's are called the Black Chamber, and they do the kind of stuff the Laundry considers highly unethical.

Poor Emily ...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Dec 2014, 08:45
Wasn't SMIF a women's only college? Why are there males in the classroom?
Is Clinton a graduate student? I don't know specifically about Smif, but I know some women's colleges do accept male graduate students.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Dec 2014, 08:47
Clinton's 21. A little on the young side for graduate study. Not unheard of, though.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Dec 2014, 08:50
I was 21 when I started grad school. If he is a graduate student, then he's almost certainly in his first year.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Dec 2014, 08:51
Clinton's 21. A little on the young side for graduate study. Not unheard of, though.

I think the point is that Clinton wasn't the only guy there. That makes it likely that it was a post-grad class; even more likely if we assume Emily is about the same age as Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Bologna on 11 Dec 2014, 08:52
As others have brought up, I'm not really digging this whole 'wait THAT Emily?' thing. 

I mean, how could his knowing her from (what I'm assuming to be their) classes together not have come up before? It's not likely that there's any real confusion as to Emily the library intern that he's already met a few times = Emily the girl who summoned Cthulhu via computer programming. 

To start, Marten listed Emily as a setup possibility right after he talked about how Gabby left the library internship, so it's kind of inferred that Emily is also a library intern, the one that he's already met. A bit of a stretch, I know, but we're working backwards here, so deal with me. Previously, Clinton must have guessed that Emily was a library intern back when she wanted to interview him about his robot hand at the library. Surely, at the very least, he must have known that she was a library intern when Claire brought him to Emily's party?  For example:

Claire:  Hey Clinton, want to come to a lake house party? 
Clinton :  Maybe.  Who's hosting?
Claire:  Emily.
Clinton:  Emily?
Claire:  One of my co-interns.

In any case, at the end of the day, he's met her a few times already. Why weren't his reservations about Emily brought up at any time before now? 

I know that Jeph initially forgot that they had met, and has already corrected that previous comic to account for that, kind of, but this doesn't really jive.

I also know I'm not exactly a regular on the forum, so I must look like some complaining noob, but I've been following this comic for a long while now and this is looking a little lazy. 
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: sitnspin on 11 Dec 2014, 09:02
He was never being set up with her until now. He never had cause for reservations before.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Dec 2014, 09:02
As others have brought up, I'm not really digging this whole 'wait THAT Emily?' thing. 

Some counter-points, take them or leave them as you like.

1) The party - You're only guessing that Clinton asked who was hosting. He may have gone along "to protect his sister" (a rationalisation - he just wanted to go to the party). He would have seen Emily 'The Dark Lady of Spaghetti Logic' Azuma there but he didn't interact with her much and his laptop was a long way away from her so he wouldn't have minded; anyway, he got to look at lots of cute girls, get free booze and keep Claire out of trouble;

2) The library - Once again, this is first aid, not computer programming. In any case, he was hurting and probably would have welcomed aid from anyone; You could also retcon his clear surprise at Emily's line of questioning as nervousness about what exactly she was planning to do with Robo-hand;

3) THAT Emily? - So, Marten and Claire say they're going to set him up with their friend, Emily. He doesn't know who that is; it could be anyone (although, given how they're talking about her with diabolical grins, it probably isn't good). He arrives and Marten confirms that they expect him to spend a considerable length of time with... even date... Emily Azuma! This is not being in the same house as her, answering a few weird-ass questions about Robo-hand (which he sort of expects from her) or borrowing her 'lunch' (Frozen peas? WTF?) to bring down the egg on his forehead. This is serious interaction! He's not sure that this is safe!

He was never being set up with her until now. He never had cause for reservations before.

Dang! Ninja'd! And with such a far more efficient way of phrasing the argument!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Dec 2014, 09:50
Hm... Thinking it through a bit: Emily's code would have to have been skilled to warrant an EMP wipe. Unwise, perhaps, but skilled. Maybe there's a hint of awe behind Clinton's hesitation?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Y on 11 Dec 2014, 10:13
Hm... Thinking it through a bit: Emily's code would have to have been skilled to warrant an EMP wipe. Unwise, perhaps, but skilled. Maybe there's a hint of awe behind Clinton's hesitation?

Maybe in the QC universe it's easy to mistakenly program skynet in AI 101, especially when watching cat videos at the same time.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Dec 2014, 10:15
Little-known fact: Cat videos are the method that Skynet uses to communicate between its nodes.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 11 Dec 2014, 10:20
Obligatory XKCD:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/genetic_algorithms.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 11 Dec 2014, 10:28
The "computational Demonology"-concept is definately a reference to the Laundry series

It could be, but not definitely. Wikipedias saying those started in 2004 and the concepts been done way before that. Shin Megami Tensei series did it in the early 90s(And I wouldn't be surprised if they stole the idea from something even earlier). Or he saw that one episode of buffy where a demon got in a computer. Or something else. Or he just came up with it himself.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: lot_jockey on 11 Dec 2014, 11:09
Wasn't SMIF a women's only college? Why are there males in the classroom?
Is Clinton a graduate student? I don't know specifically about Smif, but I know some women's colleges do accept male graduate students.

In real life, Smith and UMass are part of the Five College Consortium (https://www.fivecolleges.edu/consortium). This program allows students from any of the five colleges in the Pioneer Valley (UMass, Smith, Amherst, Hampshire, and Mount Holyoke) to take classes at any other school (Jeph went to Hampshire and would know about this program). I believe that this attribute extends to graduate programs (https://www.fivecolleges.edu/academics/graduate_and_post-baccalaureate_programs). Clinton might also be an undergrad in a graduate student class, or Emily could be a grad student in an upper-level undergrad class. The fact that they go to different schools in the Pioneer Valley does not preclude them from taking classes together.

Additionally, maybe this comic is a flashback to undergrad, and Emily went to UMass with Clinton. Also, do we know that Emily is a grad student at Smif? She could be a grad student at UMass.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 11 Dec 2014, 11:13
Emily 'The Dark Lady of Spaghetti Logic' Azuma

Considering my avatar is Osaka, I should change two things and make that my personal text. But I wont. It's not mine.

And could this mean that she was actually invoking FSM and she misread?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Endellion on 11 Dec 2014, 11:55
If Clinton doesn't work for them, how did he know about the attack?

Clinton: "So how was your weekend?"
Emily: "Some men from NRO came and EMPed my final project ^_^"
Clinton: "...uh".
Emily: "I also learned some new facts about bunnies!"
Clinton: "..."
I've got a theory, it must be bunnies. </Anya>

Damnit she was the best thing in that show :( RIP

I was going to write how it's potentially plausible for Clinton to react in the way he did, but 2 people beat me to it. So now I've got nothing. ButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButtsButts

In addendum:  Hoping for some Emily style weirdness tomorrow, been a good while since she's been in the strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: NilsO on 11 Dec 2014, 12:24
Hm... Thinking it through a bit: Emily's code would have to have been skilled to warrant an EMP wipe. Unwise, perhaps, but skilled. Maybe there's a hint of awe behind Clinton's hesitation?
I imagine all PCs in that auditorium (perhaps on the whole campus) was destroyed by the EMP, because of lack of accuracy from orbit, or out of fear from contamination, or just to make sure. That would definitely have made an impression, and not contributed to Emily's popularity.
As to Emily's skills, I guess it was more of an accident. She would not have made a conscious design choice to disturb the Great Old Ones. But somehow she must have opened a channel.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: dexeron on 11 Dec 2014, 12:46
Is it required to be a student of the school whose library you're interning for?  Emily might only be interning at SMIF, but attending classes elsewhere.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Dec 2014, 13:58
I think the NRO is like MIB

But without Neuralisers.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Dec 2014, 14:05
But without Neuralisers.

HANNERS: "I'm not allowed to talk about it. But we're working on that technology."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kairi on 11 Dec 2014, 15:21
As a note to those saying Clinton's surprise is... surprising: I was the witness to a conversation last month between two people who met at an overnight writing event and discovered while there that they literally sit in the same row on the same side of the room in a college class. And had never noticed each other. So, you can see people and not have it register strongly--in this case, Clinton remembers Emily from class but not from elsewhere. Who knows! (I am of the assume-the-comic-creator-is-always-right-and-try-to-justify-things-for-them camp, if that helps. Just how my brain works.)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Case on 11 Dec 2014, 15:53
The "computational Demonology"-concept is definately a reference to the Laundry series

It could be, but not definitely. Wikipedias saying those started in 2004 and the concepts been done way before that. Shin Megami Tensei series did it in the early 90s(And I wouldn't be surprised if they stole the idea from something even earlier). Or he saw that one episode of buffy where a demon got in a computer. Or something else. Or he just came up with it himself.  :psyduck:

I didn't know about Shin Megami Tensei - is it any good?

My money would still be on the Laundry series though, since there are indications that Jeph likes Charlie Stross' work (Stross was one of the guests at MartenDad's wedding, e.g.). He seems to be well-versed in all the contemporary SF-bigwigs and builds in references to Herbert (Dune - e.g. the Iiiiiiiiiiih-Cha! ), William Gibson (The name of the store that sold Momo's upgraded chassis is 'Idoru' - the same as the last book in Gibson's Bridge trilogy) - I'm still waiting for a Doctrow reference ...

Stross is a master at repurposing ideas & making them his own, though - He does Cyberpunk, near-future SF, Space opera, you name it - I wouldn't be surprise if he got the idea for the Laundry from Shin Megami Tensei.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Dec 2014, 15:54
I can fail to recognize someone if I see them in a new context.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 11 Dec 2014, 16:06
(I am of the assume-the-comic-creator-is-always-right-and-try-to-justify-things-for-them camp, if that helps. Just how my brain works.)

Put more baldly, I don't just assume they're right - they simply are.  I don't say that to defend Jeph or attack anyone else; it's just a fact of our relative positions.  He puts something on the digital page for QC, and it's canon.  Just like that.  It may not make sense, but unless he changes it for the sake of continuity or retcons it, what you see on the page is what happened.

That we are here reading it and doing the occasional contortion to satisfy the hobgoblins of consistency says more about his long-term staying power as a storyteller than it does about about the current plot line.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 11 Dec 2014, 16:07
And how many of your classmates do you even remember the name of? especially in what looks like one of the larger lecture classes? It's really not that unusual.

As an aside I'm going to have to pick up this book series now, I'll read it the only place that makes sense, the laundry room!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DSL on 11 Dec 2014, 16:30
I think the NRO is like MIB

But without Neuralisers.

You just don't remember the Neuralisers.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Dec 2014, 17:05
The thing of it is, Emily had made quite an impression on him during the class prior to the party at the lake house. Enough that he remembered and is telling stories about her months later, at least. And he's been around her a fair bit since then, even interacting directly at the library. So why now is it suddenly a thing that he freaks out meeting her? It isn't a case where you met someone and found they happen to attend the same class and you never noticed them. He sure noticed her in class, and he talked with her for sure at the library, and most likely at the lake house party.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: lot_jockey on 11 Dec 2014, 17:12
Yeah, and she also hosted the lake house party, where only fourteen people were present (Emily, Clinton, Claire, Marten, Tai, Gabby, Dora, Faye, Marigold, Hannelore, Angus, Steve, Cosette, and Momo).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kairi on 11 Dec 2014, 17:19
Put more baldly, I don't just assume they're right - they simply are
Yup. I need practice shaving my ideas. :) Thank you. That is what I meant.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Penquin47 on 11 Dec 2014, 17:50
Is it possible that Clinton just didn't know Emily-the-classmate's (first) name?  I'm particularly asocial, I know, but in a college class, I rarely knew the names of more than three or four classmates.

Then he fails to recognize her at the party because "huh, she looks kinda like that girl who got EMP'ed, can't be her though because she works at Smif with Claire and that girl was at UMass with me."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 11 Dec 2014, 18:04
Yep, probably a reference to the Laundry as a Charlie Stross expy was one of the guests at Marten's dad's wedding.

I'm a bit surprised at the amount of people being surprised at Clinton's reaction.

There's already been discussion that that SMIF might not exactly OTL Smith college already. And also the discussion above.

"The NRO EMP'd her laptop" is a perfectly comprehensible sentence to me... Especially in context. :/

I thought of something else to comment on but I forgot, it's late here. I think I made up some headcanon but I forgot about it by the time I came back to my laptop. Which sucks as it was the main reason to post in the first place at this hour.


Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Dec 2014, 18:14
Is it possible that Clinton just didn't know Emily-the-classmate's (first) name?  I'm particularly asocial, I know, but in a college class, I rarely knew the names of more than three or four classmates.

Then he fails to recognize her at the party because "huh, she looks kinda like that girl who got EMP'ed, can't be her though because she works at Smif with Claire and that girl was at UMass with me."

That, plus he's viewing her in a different light.  When she was just a friend-of-his-sister and someone he only briefly socialized with, sure, she may have been that weird person whose project nearly raised the Old Ones, but he wasn't going to rudely bring that up in conversation--but now that she's a potential love interest, you expect him to date HER?!

That said, it's a minor continuity glitch at worse (and hey, The Simulation can't be completely flawless), so I'm willing to overlook it and move on to Awkward Clinton/Emily Conversations.  So...what other attachments and settings does your robot hand have?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Dec 2014, 18:24
Is it possible that Clinton just didn't know Emily-the-classmate's (first) name?  I'm particularly asocial, I know, but in a college class, I rarely knew the names of more than three or four classmates.

Then he fails to recognize her at the party because "huh, she looks kinda like that girl who got EMP'ed, can't be her though because she works at Smif with Claire and that girl was at UMass with me."

But what about their conversation (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428) at the library (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2436)?

Oh well, it's not as much of a continuity nightmare as Hanners first appearance.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 11 Dec 2014, 18:27
Oh well, it's not as much of a continuity nightmare as Hanners first appearance.

I take you also have not been trying different kinds of powerful anti-anxiety medication. I don't find either remotely unusual.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Dec 2014, 18:31
It's clear that Clinton's memory has been... edited. Yes, that's the word for it. ECtech probably has the technology to do that.

But why? What did Clinton see that he wasn't supposed to?

Steve knows - but Steve isn't telling.

:parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: zmeiat_joro on 11 Dec 2014, 18:38
Clinton's reaction is understandable to me even without resorting to a theory that there was a geas but it wasn't very high-level or that it's failing a bit due to proximity (in either direction) to the CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN event, if that's what you're implying.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Markhat on 11 Dec 2014, 19:18
I think it's less that he doesn't know/remember her, but more that he didn't make the connection between Emily, who works at the library and almost doomed the world, and Emily, potentially attractive girl that Marten knows.  Hence the "Wait that Emily".  My assumption is that Clint just assumed Marten knows a different Emily, it's not like they hang out all the time and Emily is a fairly common name.  Granted, he should have made the connection after they popped into the library, but where's the fun in that.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: J on 11 Dec 2014, 20:00
still not seeing anything that warrants dismissing emily as a potential romantic partner.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Dec 2014, 20:36
Comic!

Either Emily is having the beginnings of an orgasm, or "Clinton" is the code phrase for her shutdown sequence.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: stephber on 11 Dec 2014, 20:40
Coming up next week on Questionable Content.... Emily's still saying 'Cllllllllinnnnnnnnntooooooooooooon.' Will it ever end?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Near Lurker on 11 Dec 2014, 20:41
Made for each other.  If nothing else, they should start a tech company together.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Dec 2014, 20:45
CLIN-TON

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uyaJ8eR9tzw/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Dec 2014, 20:45
If nothing else, they should start a tech company together.
One which summons the robot revolution and destroys mankind.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Dec 2014, 20:52
You mean counter-revolution? The QC universe already had one and it turned out pretty well. (Despite Pintsize)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jheartney on 11 Dec 2014, 21:13
My guess is we never hear anything further about the NRO/EMP etc. as all that was intended to do was to make Emily more intimidating to Clinton, and to float the suggestion that beneath the weirdness Emily is very bright. Which is probably just as well; a deep techie storyline isn't a good fit for QC.

Despite all the harsh things that have been said about Clinton, I'd have to say he's showing some real courage talking to Emily. Not only is she capable of writing scary code, she's also half a head taller than him, and sometimes downright inscrutable. I predict that if they get together, Clinton will become a better person while Emily stays just as weird, but still benefits from the relationship.

I'd been wondering what happened to Emily after the Marten cheek kiss episode. Glad to see she's back, and in fine form.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Estron on 11 Dec 2014, 21:22
What I'm hearing in my head is, of course, "muskrat muskrat muskrat . . . ."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MrNumbers on 11 Dec 2014, 21:37
There is real fear in the eyes of Clinnnnnnn-tonnnnnnnn in that last panel.

That was a clin-ton of n's.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Dec 2014, 21:39
I can only imagine that Emily is committing CLINNN-TONNNN's name to memory.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Dec 2014, 21:48
That, or she's remembering something.  The thing inside her laptop wasn't killed, it just changed hosts and went into deep slumber, but now...now...IT HAS AWOKEN.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ASB84 on 11 Dec 2014, 21:50
Is it possible that Clinton just didn't know Emily-the-classmate's (first) name?  I'm particularly asocial, I know, but in a college class, I rarely knew the names of more than three or four classmates.

Then he fails to recognize her at the party because "huh, she looks kinda like that girl who got EMP'ed, can't be her though because she works at Smif with Claire and that girl was at UMass with me."

But what about their conversation (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428) at the library (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2436)?

Oh well, it's not as much of a continuity nightmare as Hanners first appearance.

Not to mention, we never did get an answer to that question. Does Clinton's robot hand have a blaster attachment, a la Mega Man?

It's important to note that Clinton never said that it didn't. He merely asked for clarification on what kind of blaster Emily was referring to.

Logical conclusion: The "murder mode" for Clinton's robot hand is truly frightening.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Blackbird on 11 Dec 2014, 21:52
Along a similar vein: Doesn't Clinton go to UMass?

Maybe Emily transferred after that incident.

Since Emily is a grad student, she could have done her undergrad at UMass.  Simplest explanation: both were at UMass when they had a class together.  Emily was a year or two ahead of Clinton.  She graduated from UMass last year and now she's at Smif for grad school.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Blackbird on 11 Dec 2014, 21:53
She's already moaning his name.  Clinton is so in!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Dec 2014, 21:57
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Dec 2014, 22:02
Somebody more skilled than me needs to make some fanart of Emily doing the Exorcist spider walk while chanting Clin-ton's name.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Near Lurker on 11 Dec 2014, 22:08
Geez, it just hit me that if he's 21 in 2014, Clinton would actually have been born during the Clinton administration.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 11 Dec 2014, 22:31
Geez, it just hit me that if he's 21 in 2014, Clinton would actually have been born during the Clinton administration.

I could make a really bad pun off of that, but I'm not sure if it would break the forum rules.

Do you think Clinton's hand has a setting where he could plug it into a computer or other machine and interface with it?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 11 Dec 2014, 22:37
Geez, it just hit me that if he's 21 in 2014, Clinton would actually have been born during the Clinton administration.

I could make a really bad pun off of that, but I'm not sure if it would break the forum rules.

Do you think Clinton's hand has a setting where he could plug it into a computer or other machine and interface with it?

So would that be considered jacking on?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Dec 2014, 22:38
Do you think Clinton's hand has a setting where he could plug it into a computer or other machine and interface with it?

Don't you go giving Pintsize any ideas now...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Dec 2014, 23:07
Inter-face with it? Like a facepalm?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: J on 11 Dec 2014, 23:13
that one caused me physical pain.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: vforvancouver on 11 Dec 2014, 23:17
Clinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
Tonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...

Sounds like a bell. I can see why Emily would repeat it. I'd need to be high as fuck to do it in public, but in private... I'm now repeating it adding another "n" for each iteration, just for the lulz. Also I was singing 99 bottles of beer on the wall before.

Clinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
Tonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Dec 2014, 23:22
Two possibilities: Either Emily is trying to remember if she's heard his name before or she thinks that the word 'Clinton' sounds funny. I'm wondering if she's going to accuse him of 'making that up'!

I dunno. Maybe she's got some mental numerological matrix by which she decides whether someone is a compatible friend, a sort of alphanumeric feng shui. If I'm right, then there is a possibility that the first thing that she'll say on Monday may be a stern pronouncement that they must make babies now. Oddly enough, this is one of the least weird things that she could do.

Either that or she's going to start laughing uncontrollably and has to have water thrown in her face to snap her out of it. When questioned, she says that it is nothing to do with Clinton's name; she just thinks that monkeys are funny.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 11 Dec 2014, 23:28
Emily has reached a cache fail and is now delving into all her storage looking for Clinton's face. Next thing she'll do something horribly inappropriate.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ysth on 11 Dec 2014, 23:37
I never really got Emily, but that classroom/laptop scene made it click.  She's Jeph's Zimmy, only not Zimmy because she's Jeph's.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: snubnose on 11 Dec 2014, 23:48
Okay.

Okay.

This, like, wasnt weird at all.  :meh:

Really ! Not.  :-P

Also, what basis does Marten have for his statement ? :? Frankly I dont know whats going on in Emilys mind. :police: At all. :-\
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 12 Dec 2014, 00:06
I never really got Emily, but that classroom/laptop scene made it click.  She's Jeph's Zimmy, only not Zimmy because she's Jeph's.
For reference: Zimmy is the girl with the black eyes in Gunnerkrigg Court (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/cast/).
Her abilities include

(click to show/hide)

among other things.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cloudbuster on 12 Dec 2014, 03:19
I really can't picture sex between Clinnnnn-tonnnnn and Emily!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Dec 2014, 03:23
Why not? It'd probably be hilarious!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 12 Dec 2014, 03:46


Why not?
Because of the forum rules against creepy shipping, of course ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Dec 2014, 03:55
I have to say that any Clinton x Emily relationship would be a case study in dysfunction. Emily would sail through life in her usual manner, doing things that are right and intuitive by her lights and poor Clinton would be a semi-helpless passenger, occasionally enjoying and occasionally being terrified by the psychedelic ride that he's found himself trapped on.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Dec 2014, 04:00


Why not?
Because of the forum rules against creepy shipping, of course ;)

The forum rules don't prohibit thinking about it, do they?  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Dec 2014, 04:01
Loki, don't you mean reality-warping?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Dec 2014, 04:16
I have to say that any Clinton x Emily relationship would be a case study in dysfunction. Emily would sail through life in her usual manner, doing things that are right and intuitive by her lights and poor Clinton would be a semi-helpless passenger, occasionally enjoying and occasionally being terrified by the psychedelic ride that he's found himself trapped on.

How is that different from any other romantic relationship?

 :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: snubnose on 12 Dec 2014, 05:13
How is that different from any other romantic relationship?
The real, much faster to answer question is:

How is that NOT different from any other romantic relationship?

Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hakko504 on 12 Dec 2014, 05:21
For reference: Zimmy is the girl with the black eyes in Gunnerkrigg Court (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/cast/).
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Dec 2014, 05:28
Work, schmork! Read your webcomics!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rimwolf on 12 Dec 2014, 06:03
I'm really interested in seeing how Jeph subverts the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope with Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: TinPenguin on 12 Dec 2014, 06:18
"I was at your party over the summer"

This seems to confirm that QCverse's summer has ended. Maybe that's why Gabby's gone. The girls completed their summer internship, were offered the chance to stay on as volunteers; Gabby declined because she's got better things to do with her career, Claire stayed because Marten, and Emily stayed because she hasn't sniffed all the books yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: NilsO on 12 Dec 2014, 06:27
I don't like Emily's brown dress.

That said, Emily is outweirding herself today. I guess 'Clinton' is a password that activates some hidden code in her cyborg brain. The NRO must have modified Emily for their own purposes after the EMP incident. What happens next will certainly not be good.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Dec 2014, 06:30
I keep expecting her to follow up with "Multi-pass."

Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 12 Dec 2014, 06:50
Well, that was.... terrifying o_o
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: dexeron on 12 Dec 2014, 07:12
Emily is quickly becoming my favorite character.

OK, I mean apart from everyone else who is my favorite character.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2014, 07:25
Is it possible that Clinton just didn't know Emily-the-classmate's (first) name?  I'm particularly asocial, I know, but in a college class, I rarely knew the names of more than three or four classmates.

Then he fails to recognize her at the party because "huh, she looks kinda like that girl who got EMP'ed, can't be her though because she works at Smif with Claire and that girl was at UMass with me."

Ladies and Gentlemen (and other assorted beings), we have Occam's Razor, right here.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: snubnose on 12 Dec 2014, 07:39
I keep expecting her to follow up with "Multi-pass."
ROTFL

Good one !

For everyone who doesnt get it, this is a reference to The Fifth Element (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fifth_Element).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Blackbird on 12 Dec 2014, 07:45
I've decided to not only ship Emily-Clinton, but further ship a Hanners-Emily-Clinton threeway relationship, just so we can call the ship Hamilton.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2014, 07:49
For reference: Zimmy is the girl with the black eyes in Gunnerkrigg Court (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/cast/).
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.

It'll be worth it, trust me.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rimwolf on 12 Dec 2014, 08:00
I've decided to not only ship Emily-Clinton, but further ship a Hanners-Emily-Clinton threeway relationship, just so we can call the ship Hamilton.

There's something kinda fishy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Fish_(disambiguation)) about that idea.

(Great punmanteau there!)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 08:13
I've decided to not only ship Emily-Clinton, but further ship a Hanners-Emily-Clinton threeway relationship, just so we can call the ship Hamilton.

There's something kinda fishy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Fish_(disambiguation)) about that idea.

(Great punmanteau there!)
Unfortunately, the Hamiltonian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamiltonian_mechanics#Mathematical_formalism) of that system is not energetically favorable.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Dec 2014, 08:15
There's something kinda fishy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Fish_(disambiguation)) about that idea.

There's something mildly disturbing about that Wikipedia link....

Quote from: Wikipedia
Albert Fish (1870–1936) born Hamilton Fish, American serial killer and distant relative of the original Hamilton Fish
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 12 Dec 2014, 09:08
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.

Then you're missing the best webcomic.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 09:13
There's a better webcomic than QC? Clearly you're on the wrong forum!  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: JLM on 12 Dec 2014, 10:09
CLIN-TON

I also was thinking of that.

Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jmucchiello on 12 Dec 2014, 10:11
Gunnerkrieg Court and QC are orthogonal in terms of content. Liking one is not an indicator that you will or won't like the other. GC is a great comic and attempting to call one better than the other is like saying apples are better than oranges: it's just an opinion.

I only came today to post "You're doing great!" Marten saying that made me LOL.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: hakko504 on 12 Dec 2014, 10:38
For reference: Zimmy is the girl with the black eyes in Gunnerkrigg Court (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/cast/).
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.

It'll be worth it, trust me.
Well, after reading the first two chapters, it sure looks like you're absolutely correct.
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.

Then you're missing the best webcomic.
Better than QC? Surely you can't be serious?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2014, 10:46
GC is in a class all by itself, just like QC.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: pendrake on 12 Dec 2014, 11:04
Also, what basis does Marten have for his statement ? :? Frankly I dont know whats going on in Emilys mind. :police: At all. :-\

The basis is simple: name acknowledgement and recognition.  Clinton went from "Mister Robot Hand" to CLINNNN-TONNNNN...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Dec 2014, 11:27
Somebody find her 'Reset' Button before her head falls off.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 11:34
Wait, wait, don't press that button!

... Aw crap, someone call the NRO, we're going to need the EMP cannon again.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 12 Dec 2014, 11:43
What if Emily is actually an AI?

Even crazier: Emily's brain was the model used to create all AIs. That's why Pintsize is, well, Pintsize,

Another insane thought: Emily is an experiment by Hannelore's dad.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jheartney on 12 Dec 2014, 12:56
Emily is just a slightly wacky person. She has a good heart, and is also wicked smart about some things. If Clinton can get his mind around it, a relationship with her could do him a world of good. Or it could be a train wreck. Either way, it'd be an unforgettable ride. He should definitely go for it.

WRT Marten's assessment, I think he's on the nose. Emily has engaged with Clinton. Who knows what's going on inside her head, but whatever it is, he's part of it now.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Endellion on 12 Dec 2014, 12:58
What if Emily is actually an AI?

Even crazier: Emily's brain was the model used to create all AIs. That's why Pintsize is, well, Pintsize,

Another insane thought: Emily is an experiment by Hannelore's dad.

Wait, I thought they were only working on the technology to create a sentient being who can summon the elder gods, I didn't realize they'd achieved it  :psyduck: :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 12 Dec 2014, 13:03
There is a point at which "working on that tech" becomes "we have that tech"
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: A Duck on 12 Dec 2014, 13:04

Wait, I thought they were only working on the technology to create a sentient being who can summon the elder gods, I didn't realize they'd achieved it  :psyduck: :psyduck:

To be fair, it's not like summoning elder gods is particularly hard in the QCverse.

Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 12 Dec 2014, 13:13
You remember this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1754)? Now we know what really caused it.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Dec 2014, 13:34
There is a point at which "working on that tech" becomes "we have that tech"

And in any universe that contains eldritch horrors from beyond time and space, "we have that tech" quickly becomes "we wish we could uninvent that tech." Every. Single. Time.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 12 Dec 2014, 13:48
There is a point at which "working on that tech" becomes "we have that tech"

And in any universe that contains eldritch horrors from beyond time and space, "we have that tech" quickly becomes "we wish we could uninvent that tech." Every. Single. Time.

The only solution is to stop the scientists
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 12 Dec 2014, 13:50
We can resummon them. Stronger. Faster. More tentacles.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 13:52
There is a point at which "working on that tech" becomes "we have that tech"

And in any universe that contains eldritch horrors from beyond time and space, "we have that tech" quickly becomes "we wish we could uninvent that tech." Every. Single. Time.

The only solution is to stop the scientists
Hey, now. Let's not be too hasty...


...then again I've never invented anything worthwhile, let alone anything of the destroy-the-world type of nature...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 12 Dec 2014, 14:00
There is a point at which "working on that tech" becomes "we have that tech"

And in any universe that contains eldritch horrors from beyond time and space, "we have that tech" quickly becomes "we wish we could uninvent that tech." Every. Single. Time.

The only solution is to stop the scientists
Hey, now. Let's not be too hasty...


...then again I've never invented anything worthwhile, let alone anything of the destroy-the-world type of nature...

Then you are obviously safe. It's the ones who show signs of the spark that we need to deal with
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Dec 2014, 14:44
Dang those Mads. Always trying to blow up or take over Europe. The Heterodynes are the worst!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Dec 2014, 14:54
...then again I've never invented anything worthwhile, let alone anything of the destroy-the-world type of nature...

...that you'll admit to, anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Mafarfloune on 12 Dec 2014, 15:30
For reference: Zimmy is the girl with the black eyes in Gunnerkrigg Court (http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/cast/).
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.

It'll be worth it, trust me.
Well, after reading the first two chapters, it sure looks like you're absolutely correct.
D**n it, I've got work to do, not reading the archives of another webcomic.

Then you're missing the best webcomic.
Better than QC? Surely you can't be serious?

"I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 15:32
...then again I've never invented anything worthwhile, let alone anything of the destroy-the-world type of nature...

...that you'll admit to, anyway.
This one time... in band camp... I took a flute... and used it as the detonator for my doomsday device!
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 12 Dec 2014, 15:39
Loki, don't you mean reality-warping?
We do not have rules against reality-warping per se.
We also don't have any rules regarding dogs and basketball.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Dec 2014, 15:43
See this is one of those cases where phrasing is so important - do you not have a rule about dogs associated with basketball, or do you not have any rules about  either dogs or basketball?

Enterprising trolls are always waiting for the loophole.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 15:46
Dogs are not permitted to play point guard. They're too short. Except Great Danes, they can play whatever position they want.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 12 Dec 2014, 15:57
See this is one of those cases where phrasing is so important - do you not have a rule about dogs associated with basketball, or do you not have any rules about  either dogs or basketball?

Enterprising trolls are always waiting for the loophole.
We don't have any rules about dogs.
We don't have any rules about basketball.

It quickly follows by logical implication (eg by deriving the sequence in first-order calculus) that there are no rules about the combination of dogs and basketball.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: MooskiNet on 12 Dec 2014, 16:13
That my question was neither ignored nor greeted with eye rolls is one of the reasons I really like this place, n00b that I am.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 12 Dec 2014, 16:25
:D glad to be of service.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 12 Dec 2014, 16:50
Dogs are not permitted to play point guard. They're too short. Except Great Danes, they can play whatever position they want.

What about Pointers?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ConmanTheBarbarian on 12 Dec 2014, 16:59
Make it a laser pointer and you could play against any number of cats  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 12 Dec 2014, 17:13
That's the match of the century. Air bud vs an undisclosed amount of cats.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 17:17
Just remember that the maximum power a laser can have and still be classified as a laser pointer is 5 mW. You know, just in case you get any ideas... (http://www.wickedlasers.com/arctic)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: osaka on 12 Dec 2014, 17:32
I NEED THAT FOR REASONS
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 17:40
Better buy it quick then, because the company was recently bought out and they're going to stop selling them at the end of the year...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Undrneath on 12 Dec 2014, 17:51
Those reasons wouldn't be Jedi related would they?
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 12 Dec 2014, 18:07
If the Do-nah curve exists in QC and Emily's been thinking about the code she writes, it would explain her personality, nicely.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: DrBear on 12 Dec 2014, 18:22

We don't have any rules about dogs.
We don't have any rules about basketball.

It quickly follows by logical implication (eg by deriving the sequence in first-order calculus) that there are no rules about the combination of dogs and basketball.
Can I start the Air Bud thread?  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Dec 2014, 19:10
Dogs are not permitted to play point guard. They're too short. Except Great Danes, they can play whatever position they want.

What about Pointers?

Not as good as Warhawks. Or whatever the #### Blugolds are.

(For those of you not getting the joke, try here (http://www.wiacsports.com/).)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Dec 2014, 19:21
I live in Wisconsin, and I still don't get that joke.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Stoon on 12 Dec 2014, 21:15
I live in Wisconsin...
My condolences.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Dec 2014, 21:56
I live in Wisconsin...
My condolences.

Thanks. 
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Dec 2014, 21:58
I live in Wisconsin...
My condolences.
Could be worse.

I'm not sure how, but it could be worse.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Dec 2014, 22:00
Could be worse.

I'm not sure how, but it could be worse.

Well, at least we're not Kansas (although we're heading in that direction, I bet), Alabama (or anywhere in the Deep South), Arizona, Texas...
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Dec 2014, 22:40
I live in Wisconsin...
My condolences.
(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/b8/b5/88/b8b588916901871c52fd0f1c382ef351.jpg)

I love it here, I just wish there was more snow, I'm thinking of mowing the lawn tomorrow.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Penquin47 on 12 Dec 2014, 22:50

Well, at least we're not Kansas (although we're heading in that direction, I bet), Alabama (or anywhere in the Deep South), Arizona, Texas...

Hey!  Texas has awesome bits!  (Mostly around Austin.) (Not where I live, which is Redneck Jesus Capital.)

And if Wisconsin is good enough to exile angels to, then clearly it is unfit for human habitation.

Could be worse, though.  Could be Greenland.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Dec 2014, 23:01
Well, to be fair, every state has awesome bits surrounded by vast swaths of Redneck Jesus Capitols.  And I guess I can't mock your politicians, because we're still responsible for Joe McCarthy.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Penquin47 on 13 Dec 2014, 00:27
Mock away, George W. Bush and Rick Perry set themselves up for it.  And don't get me started on Ted Cruz.
Title: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2014, 04:24
I live in Wisconsin...
My condolences.
Yeah, I know. I keep telling myself, "Four more years then Arizona."


Since I have to explain the joke: Pointers are the nickname of the UW-Stevens Point sports teams. My alma mater, UW-Whitewater, is the Warhawks. UW-Eau Claire has the unfortunate nickname of Blugolds.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: wlewisiii on 13 Dec 2014, 05:30
To whomever mentioned Gunnerkrigg Court first,

I work nights but I got nothing done last night :D Best archive dive I've made since either discovering QC or possibly Schlock Mercenary. Thank you.

Now I have to wait till Monday for this one as well!

(I grew up in Eau Claire. Didn't they finally make Babe the Blue Ox (with gold highlights) the mascot to make it slightly better than the nickname alone.)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Rimwolf on 13 Dec 2014, 08:14
To whomever mentioned Gunnerkrigg Court first,

I work nights but I got nothing done last night :D Best archive dive I've made since either discovering QC or possibly Schlock Mercenary. Thank you.

Girl Genius should be next on your list if it's not already. "For science!"
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Dec 2014, 08:53
And Ozy & Millie
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Dec 2014, 09:19
I'd suggest Wapsi Square, but if you do, be forewarned that you have an even larger archive to go through than Jeph's (Paul Taylor has been doing the comic since September of 2001).
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: greekstreek on 13 Dec 2014, 09:35
See this is one of those cases where phrasing is so important - do you not have a rule about dogs associated with basketball, or do you not have any rules about  either dogs or basketball?

Enterprising trolls are always waiting for the loophole.
We don't have any rules about dogs.
We don't have any rules about basketball.

It quickly follows by logical implication (eg by deriving the sequence in first-order calculus) that there are no rules about the combination of dogs and basketball.

Either initial rule would be sufficient in that regard.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Estron on 13 Dec 2014, 09:59
The only solution is to stop the scientists
Not gonna be easy.  The guys and gals on the EC space station summon the elder gods every Saturday night.

And play poker.

And occasionally win.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Estron on 13 Dec 2014, 10:03
Dogs are not permitted to play point guard. They're too short. Except Great Danes, they can play whatever position they want.

The retrievers bring the ball down court, play is directed by the setters, and baskets are scored by the pointers.

Halftime show provided, of course, by Pitbull and Snoop Dogg.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Natswash on 13 Dec 2014, 14:13
The only solution is to stop the scientists
Not gonna be easy.  The guys and gals on the EC space station summon the elder gods every Saturday night.

And play poker.

And occasionally win.
Maybe we can use the AI to continue their tests...

EDIT: Spelling
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: wlewisiii on 13 Dec 2014, 14:18
To whomever mentioned Gunnerkrigg Court first,

I work nights but I got nothing done last night :D Best archive dive I've made since either discovering QC or possibly Schlock Mercenary. Thank you.

Girl Genius should be next on your list if it's not already. "For science!"

Oh, yeah GG is good stuff too. Am loving the train story right now.

I'll have to check out the other ones mentioned on other nights with nothing better to do ;)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Loki on 13 Dec 2014, 15:33
To whomever mentioned Gunnerkrigg Court first,

I work nights but I got nothing done last night :D Best archive dive I've made since either discovering QC or possibly Schlock Mercenary. Thank you.

Now I have to wait till Monday for this one as well!

(I grew up in Eau Claire. Didn't they finally make Babe the Blue Ox (with gold highlights) the mascot to make it slightly better than the nickname alone.)
I think I was the first to link it, but someone else mentioned Zimmy.
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: questionablydiscontent on 13 Dec 2014, 18:58
CLAIRE (aside): "Marten, we've got to get him to think that Emily's a normal girl! Otherwise he'll be too weirded out to date her... plus I kind of want to make him think that girls act like that and mess with his views of the world... heheh."

MARTEN (aside): "So what should I do?"

CLAIRE (aside): "Just... just go along with everything I say, okay?"

MARTEN (aside): "Gotcha."

CLAIRE: "Clinton, don't you know anything about hominid heterosexual mating rituals? You introduce yourself, your love interest repeats your name while tipping her head back, and the more enthusiastic she gets the more she's into you! Right, Marten?"

MARTEN: "Right. For your first date, you go to a movie. If she starts yelling at the screen for no apparent reason, that's how you know she really likes you. Then you ask for her digits, and she says she won't tear off her fingers for you, but you're not sure if she's joking..."

CLAIRE: "So then you give her your phone to type in her number, but somehow she gets YOUR number off of it and puts it into HER phone before she suddenly leaves! Then, right when you start wondering how you'll contact you, she texts you to say she left her number on the twenty-dollar bill in your wallet! That's how girls work, Clinton!"

CLINTON: "So does that mean you did all that with Marten?"

MARTEN: "Yes."

*CLAIRE jabs MARTEN in the ribs*

MARTEN (aside): "Hey, I'm just going along with what you said!"
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Dec 2014, 19:13
MARTEN: "Also, baskets of mice are traditional courting gifts."

CLAIRE (aside): Where--where did you get that idea?"

MARTEN (aside): "Just something I thought of (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2757) once..."
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: ysth on 14 Dec 2014, 15:26
Make it a laser pointer and you could play against any number of cats  :-D
You don't need a laser pointer to defeat cats:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Jm07HMt67DI/VIPGwVSYByI/AAAAAAAAO0g/Xz731tkGdVk/w400-h300-no/ilusion-optica-16.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 8-13 December 2014 (Strips 2850-2854)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 14 Dec 2014, 19:06
Dang those Mads. Always trying to blow up or take over Europe. The Heterodynes are the worst!
Yeah, but Othar Tryggvassen, Gentleman Adventurer! will get them all eventually.