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Title: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Jan 2015, 03:30
So, the first full week of January has come and we have a drama before us. Will Jeph follow up Faye's evident cry for help or will he move on to something else, not wanting to draw drama?

My guess is that this is the logical next step of Faye's character arc, so he will follow it up. However, I don't expect it to be a gritty arc about DTs and Fayes many issues. He'll try to keep it light-hearted but I do think we'll be reminded just how badly wounded Faye's early live experiences left her, the degree to which 'the Pugnacious Peach' is a defensive mask and just how good a set of friends she has.

I'm also expecting at least one Hanners stalking Juicy or Clinton and Emily strip to break up the main thread. Jeph seems to have pretty much established the pattern of four connected and one filler strip per week now.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: hedgie on 04 Jan 2015, 04:25
Well, at least if Faye gets the DTs, both Hanners and Claire have plenty of Ativan on hand to counteract them.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Kugai on 04 Jan 2015, 11:57
There will be soul searching
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: swapna on 04 Jan 2015, 12:29
What's the DTs?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 04 Jan 2015, 12:40
Delirium Tremens, the effects of alcohol withdrawal.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: DrBear on 04 Jan 2015, 14:32
Delirium Tremens, the effects of alcohol withdrawal.
Traditionally represented in old cartoons by pink elephants.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 04 Jan 2015, 15:24
Quote
Tonight's QC may not post until tomorrow morning because I will be soaring over the Atlantic like a fat tattooed seabird

Best not wait up.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Truec on 04 Jan 2015, 21:27
Delirium Tremens, the effects of alcohol withdrawal.
Traditionally represented in old cartoons by pink elephants.

I thought the pink elephants were the universal symbol of being three sheets to the wind?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Penquin47 on 04 Jan 2015, 21:44
Comic!  Taking a break from Faye for confetti and Easter egg hunts.

Weird Easter egg hunts.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 04 Jan 2015, 22:02
Should have went with a series of clues, each more diabolical than the last.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 04 Jan 2015, 22:02
Love the artwork in this one.  Tai looks so happy in panel 1.

Also, I was going to point out that Claire should know where the condoms are, but she was apparently absent during that part of the training. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2212)

Probably was sneaking another look at the vintage porn.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: GarandMarine on 04 Jan 2015, 22:06
This is basically how I give dating advice.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 04 Jan 2015, 22:15
I like to think that Marten's girlfriend is smiling not at the idea Tai was nice, but at the comment she has permission to boink him in the stacks.
Title: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: jwhouk on 04 Jan 2015, 22:23
I think Claire was smiling at what Tai had said in the previous panel... NOT about the boinking.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 04 Jan 2015, 22:39
Claire is blushing at their comments in the mysterious 5th panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 04 Jan 2015, 22:45
Claire is blushing at their comments in the mysterious 5th panel.

She actually has a premonition about this conversation in panel 3 of 2838 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2838), and the timing of it along with Marten's open invitation just makes things worse.  It all makes sense now!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 04 Jan 2015, 23:30
With Tai, it always boils down to sex in strange places or ways, doesn't it? Sometimes, I think that she lets her inner erotica writer have too much influence over her everyday life. Frankly, I think that Jeph is setting up a scenario where Claire (who we know has been thinking about it a lot) jumps Marten. I've got the feeling that sex in the stacks is her personal kink, you see!

I also think that the Easter Egg Contraceptive hunt is setting up a crude comedy of errors. Claire will come on strong (because Tai said that Marten needs 'a little push' every now and then). Then she finds that he has a pocket full of recovered condoms and mistakes that for an indication that he was planning this anyway. This will either surprise her, make her nervous and make her decide to wait for when there is less pressure or it will mean that they don't get any work done that day!

P.S.: Dang! Panel 4 reminds me just how tall Emily is!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Jan 2015, 00:05
P.S.: Dang! Panel 4 reminds me just how tall Emily is!

You mean how adorably small Tai and Claire are!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 05 Jan 2015, 00:57
With Tai, it always boils down to sex in strange places or ways, doesn't it? Sometimes, I think that she lets her inner erotica writer have too much influence over her everyday life. Frankly, I think that Jeph is setting up a scenario where Claire (who we know has been thinking about it a lot) jumps Marten. I've got the feeling that sex in the stacks is her personal kink, you see!

You know how everyone romanticizes sex on the beach, but the reality is sand in places you don't want sad, and salt rubbing in thereafter?

Yeah.

This would lead to papercuts in places you really don't want to get papercuts. And some moist books. Heresy.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jan 2015, 01:41
I think Claire was smiling at what Tai had said in the previous panel... NOT about the boinking.

Agreed; as a rule of thumb, the character's expression relates to what they are saying in that panel if they are talking. Only if they're not talking does their expression relate to either what is being said by others in that panel or what was said in the last.

Claire is blushing at their comments in the mysterious 5th panel.

Actually, if there was a panel 5, I think both Claire and Tai would be staring at Emily, either in stunned silence or shouting: "You did WHAT?!?"
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Nepiophage on 05 Jan 2015, 02:21
Every QC strip has a mysterious extra panel. But only wizards can see them.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Jan 2015, 02:23
And every extra panel is featuring a blushing Claire, of course.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 05 Jan 2015, 03:57
I think Claire was smiling at what Tai had said in the previous panel... NOT about the boinking.

Agreed; as a rule of thumb, the character's expression relates to what they are saying in that panel if they are talking. Only if they're not talking does their expression relate to either what is being said by others in that panel or what was said in the last.

*Mumble, grumble*

I was being facetious when I made that joke you guys. I understand how to read the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: swapna on 05 Jan 2015, 03:58
Delirium Tremens, the effects of alcohol withdrawal.

Thank you :)

Also, on Emily and condoms: well, they do get refilled when they're empty (by.. the condom fairy?), so probably there's now double the condoms - the easter eggs hidden by Emily and the bowl
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Jan 2015, 04:11
Unless Emily keeps hiding the new ones constantly - which wouldn't surprise me...
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Mad Cat on 05 Jan 2015, 04:38
I thought that's what condoms were supposed to prevent… a hunt… for eggs… just in the womb and not on Easter.




















I am not funny.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 05 Jan 2015, 04:38
I wonder what the percentage of the condoms she hid in the Victorian porn section was, logically it's the place where they're most needed.



Wait, never mind, this is Emily we're talking about, logic is not on speaking terms with her.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jan 2015, 04:39
I am not funny.

*Pats MC on head*

Don't worry, kid! You tried!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MooskiNet on 05 Jan 2015, 05:03
Wait, never mind, this is Emily we're talking about, logic is not on speaking terms with her.

Kinda makes you wonder, though - do the things she does make sense to her, or is she aware that the things she does are... outside the norm?

I'm going with the former (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371).
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Jan 2015, 05:22
She does seem pretty consistent in her weirdness. It doesn't seem like she's acting randomly, so there must be some kind of twisted logic involved.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: FuzzyFace on 05 Jan 2015, 05:25
Hmm... is biology different in QC? Why does she need condoms?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jan 2015, 05:29
Hmm... is biology different in QC? Why does she need condoms?

To my knowledge, outside her family, only Marten and Emily are aware of Claire's trans status (and there are questions as to how clearly Emily may or may not understand it). In any case, as far as Tai knows, Claire has the same concerns about unplanned pregnancy as any other woman.

Additionally, condoms are hygienic barriers too. Claire is probably a virgin but Marten has had at least two regular and one casual sexual partner that we know about. Claire should certainly use protection, just in case.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: DSL on 05 Jan 2015, 05:35
It's not a question of he or she, it's a question of *they* -- as in he of the TEH shirt and she of the glorious red mop.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 05 Jan 2015, 05:51
Emily has probably shuffled the condoms around the library evenly, maybe using a RCNG (Random Cthulhu Number Generator) of her own creation.

(click to show/hide)

You don't want Cthulhu to appear like "HAWT, wanna make it a threesome?" in the middle of sexytimes.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Jan 2015, 06:04
That library has had appearances of other Elder Ones before, according to Marten (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2366).
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 05 Jan 2015, 06:06
Your forum title just gives your comment that much more validity Lubricus.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 05 Jan 2015, 06:10
I love Tai's expression in that first panel.  Lovely.

The fifth panel can only be seen by cyborgs, not wizards.  And it shows Hannelore doing all those things people think she can't because of her OCD.  Like rolling around in  a giant vat of mud.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Jan 2015, 06:14
Your forum title just gives your comment that much more validity Lubricus.

He he! Nice!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: KOK on 05 Jan 2015, 06:51
Additionally, condoms are hygienic barriers too. Claire is probably a virgin but Marten has had at least two regular and one casual sexual partner that we know about. Claire should certainly use protection, just in case.

Ten minutes with Venus, two years with Mercury.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: KOK on 05 Jan 2015, 06:55
I wonder what the percentage of the condoms she hid in the Victorian porn section was, logically it's the place where they're most needed.

I read some of this stuff, One rather long story, actually. You would be surpriced. For example, when the author wants to emphasize how hot a woman is, he makes her very hairy. The protagonist's favorite has black hair all over her arse. Tastes change.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Natswash on 05 Jan 2015, 08:15
Additionally, condoms are hygienic barriers too. Claire is probably a virgin but Marten has had at least two regular and one casual sexual partner that we know about. Claire should certainly use protection, just in case.

Ten minutes with Venus, two years with Mercury.

I don't recognize that reference, what's it to?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: KOK on 05 Jan 2015, 08:18
Mercury was once used as medication for syphilis.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Boomslang on 05 Jan 2015, 08:47
Mercury was once used as medication for syphilis.

And, depending on exactly when and where we're talking, almost everything else too. There's something about human brains that not only decides the weird shimmery liquid is obviously magic, but that it's exactly the sort of magic that will cure disease and stop you from aging. Both of which it does, in a highly technical sense, but not in a sense useful to the poor person who just consumed mercury.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Natswash on 05 Jan 2015, 09:09
Oh, that's a great reference then
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: St.Clair on 05 Jan 2015, 12:55
New comic!

For what it's worth, I'm with Claire on this.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Kugai on 05 Jan 2015, 12:57
(http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/img/s/SailorVenus.jpg)   (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130825231851/ssb-tourney/images/3/37/Sailor_Mercury_CG_Art.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jan 2015, 13:03
I find myself wondering just how long Claire had been nagging Tai. You see, I've got this feeling that the flyer for the rave was entirely just trolling to wind her up even further. Although with Tai, you can't ever be entirely sure, can you?

So, should Claire relax slightly? Well, you can't blame her for taking her vocation seriously. I just wonder how far Tai can push her before she blows her top? Certainly by just ignoring Claire and then demonstrating clearly that she's going to make the Library a playground (because she can), she's going the right way about it! I wonder if she'll go crying to Marten and he'll advise her (in true Marten style) to just roll with it? :wink:

Oh, and I love the 'carnal playground' thing. I maintain that Claire has at least thought about this before.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 05 Jan 2015, 13:27
Claire will need to lighten up a bit if she ever ends up working at a public library.  Despite the cliché the ones I've been in aren't full of stern librarians going "Sh!!!" at the slightest noise. 
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Zebediah on 05 Jan 2015, 13:51
Libraries can be loads of fun. When my son was little I used to take him to "Toddler Time" at our local public library, where Carrie the Singing and Dancing Librarian would read books and sing songs to the kids.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MooskiNet on 05 Jan 2015, 14:01
I'm going to guess that Claire's indignation has a lot more to do with covering her own desires than it does with her opinions on the sanctity of libraries.  I agree that Tai is handling it correctly, and while I don't necessarily expect it, I wouldn't be surprised if Marten and Claire end up at the rave, should it actually exist.

Heh.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Jan 2015, 14:02
When Claire moves out she needs to be Tai's roommate.

She's the stuck up professional.

She's the irresponsible free spirit.

And we've got a sitcom!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Akima on 05 Jan 2015, 14:04
Crouching Emily, Hidden Condoms.

And, depending on exactly when and where we're talking, almost everything else too. There's something about human brains that not only decides the weird shimmery liquid is obviously magic, but that it's exactly the sort of magic that will cure disease and stop you from aging. Both of which it does, in a highly technical sense, but not in a sense useful to the poor person who just consumed mercury.
Putting mercury in "elixirs of immortality" was definitely a thing in ancient China. It is widely believe that the increasingly deranged and murderous behaviour of Qin Shi Huang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang) in later life was caused by consuming such potions, and that he died from mercury poisoning.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jan 2015, 14:06
I'm going to guess that Claire's indignation has a lot more to do with covering her own desires than it does with her opinions on the sanctity of libraries.

Yeah, I do get the feel of "The lady doth protest too much" too. :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Jan 2015, 14:18
 I actually don't think so. Her seriousness about her work is a pretty important character trait I think. She probably would try and dodge the issue if they were suggesting sexy times in another environment, but I don't think that's what she's doing here. She's no plans of library lewdness. If such a thing does happen it'd be a heat of the moment thing and she'd probably feel super guilty afterwards.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Truec on 05 Jan 2015, 14:48
Claire will need to lighten up a bit if she ever ends up working at a public library.  Despite the cliché the ones I've been in aren't full of stern librarians going "Sh!!!" at the slightest noise.

Public libraries, sure.  On the other hand, that does sum up my experiences with university libraries pretty well.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 05 Jan 2015, 15:29
"Look Claire, we stopped giving a fuck about that feature of libraries when Marten found two members of the board ready to get their bone on in a study room. I did even earlier, but that's beyond the point"
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 05 Jan 2015, 15:38
I'm going to guess that Claire's indignation has a lot more to do with covering her own desires than it does with her opinions on the sanctity of libraries.

Yeah, I do get the feel of "The lady doth protest too much" too. :wink:

"Quack quack quack," said the baby duck. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2796)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 05 Jan 2015, 16:42
"Quack quack quack," said the baby duck. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2796)

I just realized how big her eyes are without glasses.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Jan 2015, 17:02
Don't stare at them, you'll get lost.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 05 Jan 2015, 17:12
Don't stare at them, you'll get lost.
Wayyyyyyy too late for that advice.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: St.Clair on 05 Jan 2015, 17:35
Put me down as someone who thinks Claire just is that serious about libraries and/or her vocation.  IMO, she's been shown as such from her introduction, long before she was (probably) thinking about getting involved with anyone.

Further, when someone is serious and/or sensitive about something, they do not need to "lighten up."  That wouldn't be okay to say regarding Claire's (and others) gender issues; why is it acceptable in this context?

"Dang, you just need to chill, stop saying 'I'm offended' and insisting on trigger warnings.  Everyone else is cool with it and you're being such a drag."
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 05 Jan 2015, 18:08
To be fair...look at the background of the second panel. I don't think Jeph is taking her seriously either :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: DSL on 05 Jan 2015, 18:23
To be fair...look at the background of the second panel. I don't think Jeph is taking her seriously either :roll:

My first thought upon seeing that panel was "T-shirt! Incoming!" And I have a couple librarians in my life who'd wear 'em.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: mustang6172 on 05 Jan 2015, 19:54
Does Claire have someone follow her around with serious business wallpaper?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 05 Jan 2015, 19:59
With Steve no longer a regular character, the Bros realized they needed to start looking for other employment.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 05 Jan 2015, 20:47
With Steve no longer a regular character, the Bros realized they needed to start looking for other employment.
Don't say that word!

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110616132853/questionablecontent/images/c/cb/Bros.jpg)

Too late, you've summoned them.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Kugai on 05 Jan 2015, 20:48
I think sometimes Claire is a bit too wound up about some things.  Give it time, the gang'll loosen her up a bit.

After all, if they can get both Marigold and Hannelore to loosen up, Claire should be easy.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 05 Jan 2015, 22:03
To be fair...look at the background of the second panel. I don't think Jeph is taking her seriously either :roll:

My first thought upon seeing that panel was "T-shirt! Incoming!" And I have a couple librarians in my life who'd wear 'em.
This was my thought, too.

Claire is just getting more and more riled. I wonder what will happen when Tai pushes her too far...
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Leveton on 05 Jan 2015, 22:24
To be fair...look at the background of the second panel. I don't think Jeph is taking her seriously either :roll:
I'm sorry, what background? (goes and looks at comic again) I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 05 Jan 2015, 22:33
I think sometimes Claire is a bit too wound up about some things.  Give it time, the gang'll loosen her up a bit.

After all, if they can get both Marigold and Hannelore to loosen up, Claire should be easy.

That's great for her personal life and I want to see it happen.

Professionally in 10-15 years I want to see her having risen to the top of the smif library totem poll and become the Judge Dredd of librarians.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 05 Jan 2015, 22:40
...with new interns routinely interrupting her and Marten in the copier room.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 05 Jan 2015, 23:27
It suddenly occurs to me that 'Carnal Playground' may be the name of a band. Either way, that flyer seems bespoke-designed to raise Claire's ire even further!

I suspect that Jeph is writing this arc to remind just how adversarial Claire can get and, maybe, to teach Claire howto iidentify teasing.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 05 Jan 2015, 23:46
Does Claire have someone follow her around with serious business wallpaper?

Random thought: "Serious business wallpaper" would be a damn good band name!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 06 Jan 2015, 01:16
This morning, it occurred to me that some people might think that my comments on Strip 2869 are a bit inconsistent, so I thought I should clarify them a bit.

I don't expect Claire to have been planning to jump Marten somewhere in the stacks (although I bet the temptation is there). Rghfrgl is right to say that Claire really does regard the library as something somewhat sacred. However, I also think that she has had erotic fantasies with the library as the setting. This fact makes her feel a little guilty and defensive. That's why she's protesting so loudly and nagging at Tai: She's more shouting at herself for having fantasies about sorting the shelves naked or something. Does Tai realise this? I'm not sure; the flyer has more the feel of: "I'm the manager and you can't stop me! Nyah-nyah!"

If I'm right, then I'm sure Jeph will take diabolical delight during this arc of having Claire continually let these little naughty thoughts slip out, flustering her still further.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: katsmeat on 06 Jan 2015, 05:26
There's something about human brains that not only decides the weird shimmery liquid is obviously magic, but that it's exactly the sort of magic that will cure disease and stop you from aging. Both of which it does, in a highly technical sense, but not in a sense useful to the poor person who just consumed mercury.

It's a part of the human brain that clearly still works potently in some people...

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL786EBDC8D2B4CD1D

I'm just glad the internet is sitting between me and this person, and what he's doing.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Thrudd on 06 Jan 2015, 06:08
Don't stare at them, you'll get lost.
Wayyyyyyy too late for that advice.
Should'a taken a left at Albuquerque.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: St.Clair on 06 Jan 2015, 07:02
That is not an appropriate question, as we have been informed by Word of God and/or Mod.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Mustachio on 06 Jan 2015, 07:05
Jeph is introducing the concept via his plotline, so of course it's appropriate.  I would be surprised if Jeph doesn't include this idea as part of the plotline, for that matter.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: anahata on 06 Jan 2015, 07:17
Read this and take on board: https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30194.0.html

Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Jan 2015, 07:18
No. It is not an appropriate thing to ask. Unless you are the one in the relationship with a trans person, or any person for that matter, it is not appropriate to ask what is under their clothes. And yes, it is the word of Jeph and the Mods that asking about Claire's genitals is not an appropriate subject.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 06 Jan 2015, 09:25
Jeph is introducing the concept via his plotline, so of course it's appropriate.

Even when they have sex it's probably not going to be brought up. I mean, I'm sure they'll have a conversation, but the audience won't be privy to it.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 06 Jan 2015, 10:10
Global Moderator Comment If Claire brings the subject up then we will have a different discussion. Until then, there are at least three great reasons to respect her privacy even though she doesn't exist. One is that it's good practice for dealing with trans* people who do exist. Another is that real trans* people are hurt by such discussions. It took me a while to understand this but after multiple people's feedback climaxing in a Zoexplanation the conclusion is firm. Finally we are on private property and our host has said in black and white that Claire's privates are off limits. Yes, despite our TMI relationship with the characters in general. See also the specific rules about trans* discussions in the notes for new members.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MooskiNet on 06 Jan 2015, 10:11
The concept seems pretty clear, but maybe to remove any ambiguity for those who wish to test boundaries, just say that until otherwise stated, it will never be discussed here, no matter what happens in the comic?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 06 Jan 2015, 10:42
I would like to say, for the record, that my private area extends to my sock drawer and laptop.

Nobody look too deep into either.

This was an oblique reference to Dora and Marten's breakup catalyst. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 06 Jan 2015, 10:46
Whenever Claire gets on her soapbox about Library Science, Jeph reframes her. I think she's just that gung-ho.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: allanjm on 06 Jan 2015, 11:34
And is Bailey going to make a guest appearance. We could all have fun with Dora's insecurities meeting Tai's ex. (also a possible self referential comment about exes and polar bears with sniper rifles.)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jan 2015, 12:26
To be fair...look at the background of the second panel. I don't think Jeph is taking her seriously either :roll:
I'm sorry, what background? (goes and looks at comic again) I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
The second panel of today's strip? You're not seeing it? 2869?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Kugai on 06 Jan 2015, 13:41
Faye crash and burn incoming!!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Zebediah on 06 Jan 2015, 13:50
Faye is worried that a $15 bottle of bad scotch would be wasted on Pintsize?  :?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jan 2015, 13:52
Hey, at least she'll be drinking less this way.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Jan 2015, 13:54
"Oh man, check out this spike at 46 g/mol on my mass spectrometer. This is some strong stuff! What's this other spike at 32 g/mol, though?"
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 06 Jan 2015, 14:09
I think that Pintsize is employing a diabolical form of reverse psychology. When Faye realises that she's got so low that only Pintsize is happy with her coping strategy, it will be like a bucket of ice water in her face. Pintsize can be subtle like that sometimes; he's quite unappreciated for that.

"Marty, help me! I've got so bad that I'm relying on Pintsize to justify my drinking!"
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 06 Jan 2015, 14:20
"Oh man, check out this spike at 46 g/mol on my mass spectrometer. This is some strong stuff! What's this other spike at 32 g/mol, though?"

Meths?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: cesium133 on 06 Jan 2015, 14:28
That shit'll make you go blind.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 06 Jan 2015, 14:36
Dora you better be planning the intervention right now.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Uniquitous on 06 Jan 2015, 14:58
What's the DTs?

A damn fine Belgian ale. http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/180/1385/
Though I think Faye is more of a whiskey gal, so I'd be surprised if she picked up any beer.  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Wagimawr on 06 Jan 2015, 15:37
I think that Pintsize is employing a diabolical form of reverse psychology. When Faye realises that she's got so low that only Pintsize is happy with her coping strategy, it will be like a bucket of ice water in her face. Pintsize can be subtle like that sometimes; he's quite unappreciated for that.
Plus, the more booze she dumps in him, the less she'll drink. I think we're seeing a rare Moment of Kindness(tm) from the little guy.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: questionablydiscontent on 06 Jan 2015, 16:15
I think that Pintsize is employing a diabolical form of reverse psychology. When Faye realises that she's got so low that only Pintsize is happy with her coping strategy, it will be like a bucket of ice water in her face. Pintsize can be subtle like that sometimes; he's quite unappreciated for that.
Plus, the more booze she dumps in him, the less she'll drink. I think we're seeing a rare Moment of Kindness(tm) from the little guy.
Well I guess I wasn't the only one thinking that this was actually helpful.
Although Ben seems to be suggesting that it's actually a subtle way to create a spiral of destruction.
I feel like there was another time where Pintsize dared Winslow to do something and then shit went to hell partially due to that, which would support the theory that Pintsize is subtly undermining them.

(edit: phone autocorrected "Pintsize" to "Pint size" in original post)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MooskiNet on 06 Jan 2015, 17:38
And in odd, completely unrelated news, apparently either Faye or Marten put a picture on the wall over their sofa at some point after Marten and Claire did the cuddling trick.  Kinda dark theme, too.  Probably Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: mustang6172 on 06 Jan 2015, 18:12
Idea:  Ethanol fuel cells for anthroPCs.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 06 Jan 2015, 18:16
Like Bender!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Mad Cat on 06 Jan 2015, 18:41
It suddenly occurs to me that 'Carnal Playground' may be the name of a band.
"Tonight, at the Pit, 'Everyone Gets Laid'!"
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 06 Jan 2015, 19:10
No no no... That way lies Bender from Futurama.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: celticgeek on 06 Jan 2015, 19:21
"...on that path lies danger."
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: mustang6172 on 06 Jan 2015, 20:17
Like Bender!
No no no... That way lies Bender from Futurama.

I hear he's the greatest.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 06 Jan 2015, 20:30
Like Bender!
No no no... That way lies Bender from Futurama.

I hear he's the greatest.
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/26355415/18080931_large.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Stoon on 06 Jan 2015, 21:23
Faye crash and burn incoming!!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 07 Jan 2015, 02:14
You know things have gone horribly wrong when Pintsize is your voice of reason.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 07 Jan 2015, 02:34
Pintsize can be a voice of reason. Just not for Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jan 2015, 05:12
Not true. Remember when he gave advice before Tai's party?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: techkid on 07 Jan 2015, 05:24
Faye is giving advice from Pintsize due consideration?

That has to be a call for an intervention if ever there was one.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 07 Jan 2015, 05:45
Not true. Remember when he gave advice before Tai's party?

Perhaps Pintsize just likes driving people to drink, then? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1812)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 07 Jan 2015, 06:33
Not true. Remember when he gave advice before Tai's party?

Perhaps Pintsize just likes driving people to drink, then? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1812)

The horrible thing about that strip is that a part of me wonders if that was Pintsize trying to help!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MooskiNet on 07 Jan 2015, 06:41
Not true. Remember when he gave advice before Tai's party?

Perhaps Pintsize just likes driving people to drink, then? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1812)

Oh, great.  Now you've made me start another archive run from the breakup forward. I had things to do, man.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: questionablydiscontent on 07 Jan 2015, 10:57
Like Bender!
Becker like Bender!
Wait wut
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 07 Jan 2015, 14:10
Comic!

Nice attitude that of Marten, but kinda weird for a library nonetheless. Also, the fact that Emily would keep a leaderboard makes this scavenger hunt much more professional.

I assume that the chief librarian (the one that acts as the Janitor) is currently second?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 07 Jan 2015, 14:24
Woah.

Wickedly early comic, at that.

Claire Will Finish Last

... Oh, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ysth on 07 Jan 2015, 14:48
But who all is playing.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 07 Jan 2015, 14:58
Will Claire and Marten relationship survive differences on Library Philosophy? Or will we have to move on to our NEW pairing, Faye and Whisky. Which you could say is....

A ship in a bottle  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 07 Jan 2015, 15:01
but kinda weird for a library nonetheless.
It's a college library.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 07 Jan 2015, 15:03
but kinda weird for a library nonetheless.
It's a college library.

The highest point of action in the library of my college is a 3-player deathmatch of Sumoball MoM. That or the intermural League of Legends championship.

Actually one dude was caught masturbating on law school come to think of it.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MooskiNet on 07 Jan 2015, 15:07
come to think of it.

Ew.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 07 Jan 2015, 15:09
And it is at that very moment that I noticed the wording. Ew indeed.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 07 Jan 2015, 15:10
Yeah, I kind of thought that Marten would end up collecting most if not all of those things. I'm thinking that Claire either forgot about them or assumed that Emily's corkscrew-like mind would make finding them a statistical impossibility. She didn't reckon with Marten's weird luck, it seems.

The question is... What happens if Marten wins the Prize? For that matter, what is the Prize? Knowing Emily it may be literally impossible to guess!

Will Claire and Marten relationship survive differences on Library Philosophy?

I do think that this illustrates a major difference in mindset between Marten and Claire. Claire isn't a people person whilst Marten is a people person. He's all about individual personalities (what people are really like) and she's more about roles and labels (what they should be like).
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 07 Jan 2015, 15:35
Aww, darn.  I was really hoping BenRG's comedy of manners errors (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30370.msg1292324.html#msg1292324) would play out. 

Edited because I'm not sure where I got "comedy of manners" from...

(Probably just my so-far-unrealized wish to see a return of the Horrible Revelation and its Victorian outfits)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Mad Cat on 07 Jan 2015, 21:39
Weirdest part of today's strip: Emily keeping a running tally in her head.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 07 Jan 2015, 22:06
Prediction: Claire, fed up with these condom shenanigans in her sacred library, decides to take charge.

Comic Title: Where the rubbers meet the road.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 07 Jan 2015, 23:44
Weirdest part of today's strip: Emily keeping a running tally in her head.

If Marten's in the lead, is Emily going to give him a prize?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Jan 2015, 00:14
She's going to take each condom Marten found and, one by one, blow him...

...some balloons!

For a party!

Because that's what you do with shiny colorful individually-wrapped party balloons, isn't it? 
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Jan 2015, 01:14
Because that's what you do with shiny colorful individually-wrapped party balloons, isn't it?

Precisely! :-D I'm pretty sure that is exactly Emily's mindset! Oh, I'm sure she knows what those things are really used for but, if they're not being used for that, why not use them to make her friends happy in other ways?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 08 Jan 2015, 01:28
Hehe! "What are going to do with all those condoms, Emily?" "I'm going to make all my friends happy!"  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 08 Jan 2015, 02:59
"So I took them all and I blew them." "You... you mean the condoms, right, and not the friends?"
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: katsmeat on 08 Jan 2015, 04:22
Actually one dude was caught masturbating on law school come to think of it.

Thanks for that image. I'm now going to spend the rest of the day wondering exactly what kind of chap
get's all frisky over the material in a law school library. 

Actually that's a silly question. A future successful lawyer of course.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 08 Jan 2015, 05:02
Not too sure about that, he was watching porn.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 08 Jan 2015, 05:55
Not too sure about that, he was watching porn.

Could have been worse.

He could have been getting off to case notes.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: St.Clair on 08 Jan 2015, 10:21
"aw yeah... cite those precedents... who's your amicus curiae..."
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: DSL on 08 Jan 2015, 12:21
Did he have his legal briefs?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ysth on 08 Jan 2015, 12:41
Thanks, you've fended off the pun-addiction equivalent of DTs.  You can stop now.  Anytime.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Endellion on 08 Jan 2015, 12:59
Thanks, you've fended off the pun-addiction equivalent of DTs.  You can stop now.  Anytime.

Surely you don't have an objection to this?  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Jan 2015, 13:21
#2871 - I wouldn't be surprised if Tai were in second place  :D

#2872 - Oh grud, this conversation with Pintsize make sense - The World is coming to an end!!!     :o
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Jan 2015, 13:48
I think that we're getting to the crux of Faye's heartbreak. She thought she was in love with Angus. She did and still does feel that she owed it to him to try. However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him. Maybe she was in love with the idea of being in love with him but that's all. Because of that, in the end, she just couldn't prioritise her relationship with him or even his feelings over the place that has become her home and her friends that are closer to her than her family.

This, I think, is the really shitty part of it, for her. She's hurt Angus (a perfectly nice guy who she really quite liked) because, in the end, she was fooling herself about her own feelings. That is why she's drinking: right now, she feels so guilty that she can't live with herself whilst sober.

This has always been Jeph's triumph as a writer. He can go from a completely sophomoric joke about condoms hidden in a library to a profound bit of pathos about feelings, self-deceit and the minefield that are human relationships. What's more, he's done this so smoothly that it isn't even slightly jarring!

#2872 - Oh grud, this conversation with Pintsize make sense - The World is coming to an end!!!     :o

I think that she feels safe to bare her soul to Pintsize because she doubts that he has the emotional depth to understand (notice her parting crack about Pintsize regretting he hasn't got a butt). However, I strongly suspect that she might be underestimating him.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Endellion on 08 Jan 2015, 14:09
I think that she feels safe to bare her soul to Pintsize because she doubts that he has the emotional depth to understand (notice her parting crack about Pintsize regretting he hasn't got a butt). However, I strongly suspect that she might be underestimating him.

I think Jeph said it best: "Pintsize has hidden depths. Unfortunately they are full of porn." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: osaka on 08 Jan 2015, 14:15
I think that we're getting to the crux of Faye's heartbreak. She thought she was in love with Angus. She did and still does feel that she owed it to him to try. However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him. Maybe she was in love with the idea of being in love with him but that's all. Because of that, in the end, she just couldn't prioritise her relationship with him or even his feelings over the place that has become her home and her friends that are closer to her than her family.

Called it.

On Pintsize's depth, it IS surprising but it wasn't alien to us. We've had a look into the mind of Pintsize when discussing his "job" with Momo. It's not that he can't be of help or that he isn't wise, it's just that he doesn't give advice when it isn't needed or asked for. I'm pretty sure there was a saying for that in Spain but I can't remember it.

I think that she feels safe to bare her soul to Pintsize because she doubts that he has the emotional depth to understand (notice her parting crack about Pintsize regretting he hasn't got a butt). However, I strongly suspect that she might be underestimating him.

I think Jeph said it best: "Pintsize has hidden depths. Unfortunately they are full of porn." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332)

Given his love for hentai and tentacle porn, he might have porn of the plot-filled persuasion.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 08 Jan 2015, 14:37
I think that we're getting to the crux of Faye's heartbreak. She thought she was in love with Angus. She did and still does feel that she owed it to him to try. However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him. Maybe she was in love with the idea of being in love with him but that's all.

The 3rd and 4th panels are making me question that. Knowing what you really want but not being able/willing to do what you need to. If breaking up was what she really wanted, well she DID do that. I think she wanted to go with him. And I think maybe it's more than just about being with him, but moving forward with life. She keeps working at the coffee shop and living with Marten and one day she's 40, Marten goes off and gets married(To C...*gack* Not now shipper) and Dora sells out to Starbucks.

It could just be a poorly worded set of lines about coming to terms with breaking up, but I think she wants to put herself on the bus.

Which makes me wonder what happens in that situation. Since you know, major character and all.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 Jan 2015, 14:40
However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him.
I don't agree with this at all.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Jan 2015, 14:43
@Rghfrgl,

The points is that Faye is suffering from a conflict about what she fundamentally wants and what, on a totally different level, she believes she ought to do and feel. Her problem is that she's told herself that a good person would go with Angus. She doesn't want to go with him. That makes her a bad person in her eyes. So the guilt (not all of it justified) is swirling around her and undermining her emotional stability.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 08 Jan 2015, 15:07
However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him.
I don't agree with this at all.
I'm curious which part?

Edit: sorry, this came across upon a second read as confrontational... I'd like you to amplify your disagreement.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Jan 2015, 15:12
On a completely side note: that lower panel in the lower left of 2872 is the most evocative and emotion-filled thing I have ever seen in a webcomic. Bravo, Jeph.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Endellion on 08 Jan 2015, 16:01
I think that we're getting to the crux of Faye's heartbreak. She thought she was in love with Angus. She did and still does feel that she owed it to him to try. However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him. Maybe she was in love with the idea of being in love with him but that's all. Because of that, in the end, she just couldn't prioritise her relationship with him or even his feelings over the place that has become her home and her friends that are closer to her than her family.

Called it.

On Pintsize's depth, it IS surprising but it wasn't alien to us. We've had a look into the mind of Pintsize when discussing his "job" with Momo. It's not that he can't be of help or that he isn't wise, it's just that he doesn't give advice when it isn't needed or asked for. I'm pretty sure there was a saying for that in Spain but I can't remember it.

I think that she feels safe to bare her soul to Pintsize because she doubts that he has the emotional depth to understand (notice her parting crack about Pintsize regretting he hasn't got a butt). However, I strongly suspect that she might be underestimating him.

I think Jeph said it best: "Pintsize has hidden depths. Unfortunately they are full of porn." (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2332)

Given his love for hentai and tentacle porn, he might have porn of the plot-filled persuasion.

Well at least he's not acting like he did when Faye's last (sorta) relationship went south. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1349)

...yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jan 2015, 16:32
On a completely side note: that lower panel in the lower left of 2872 is the most evocative and emotion-filled thing I have ever seen in a webcomic. Bravo, Jeph.

Here, here.  It brought me back to say just that. 

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7494/16232339521_b7e916c216_o.png)

Eye think it's the eyebrow.  So much said (and unsaid) in that slight curl. 

That, and seeing Pintsize fulfilling his primary purpose of companionship, even if it's not with Marten.  He really is better for her than drinking alone. 
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ysth on 08 Jan 2015, 16:49
I had that thought too: nice to see an AnthroPC doing his job.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: St.Clair on 08 Jan 2015, 20:47
Me too.  And he's being entirely serious, even in that last panel.  I don't think Faye quite realizes that yet; he's being the good listener, saying just enough to draw her out of her funk and/or the bottle and keep her talking about her issues instead of soaking in them until she passes out.  But I think in the next strip or two, he might say something that surprises her.  In a positive way.

And then there will be a crude joke, because it's that kind of comic, and Pintsize is that kind of character.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 08 Jan 2015, 20:53
Oh bullshit. (sorry if that sounds a bit too confrontational, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine.)

Love doesn't conquer all. Just because her love isn't overcoming her fear of change, doesn't mean she didn't love him. This idea that love is all you need, and if a relationship failed, its because they didn't LOVE each other enough is silly and insulting.

What she doesn't want isn't being with Angus, what she doesn't want is her life to change. She doesn't want to think about one day leaving the comfortable bubble she has built for herself.

She isn't brooding because she thinks that she should have sacrificed for him because he is a good guy, she wasn't lying to herself. She did love him, and their wants in life just grew in different directions. And she is entirely aware that her want in life is stagnation and never moving forward with any real goals, or even moving forward at all, but stubbornly maintaining her current position, not because it makes her especially happy (hey, there is nothing wrong with someone who goes with the flow if that is what they want to do in life), but because she is AFRAID of change, and this is making her have to face that. She doesn't WANT to face change.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 08 Jan 2015, 22:22
Look, as long as this doesn't end in her drunk-dialling him...

And finding out he's already moved on...
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 08 Jan 2015, 22:28
She shows up unannounced, shocked to find out he has someone over.

'Who the hell is this gi....wait....SVEN?!'
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Lubricus on 08 Jan 2015, 22:32
There are many, many things Faye could do in her drunken state to make things even worse for her right now. Drunken makeouts with Pintsize? Drunk-calling Angus? Looking up Sven? Coming on to Marten? Pick your choice.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: tragic_pizza on 08 Jan 2015, 22:35
I'm mulling over this "moving on" theme. I think we're seeing it happen all around Faye, bit by bit. Perhaps she is next?

Marigold got a guy, Marten got his courage on and is developing a real, healthy relationship (with Faye's assistance), Angus is following his dream... there are other examples, I'm sure.

So my question is - does Faye, in a burst of Pintsize-fueled self-realization, throw the bottle down and go follow Angus? Only Jeph knows.

This may end up being an even more intriguing arc than Marten-Claire...


Warning - while you were typing 2 new bottles of Emergency Burbon have been opened. You may wish to review your sobriety.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Jan 2015, 22:41
Maybe this will nudge her in the direction of her dreams/interests, and get her working on her welding and sculptures again.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Jan 2015, 23:02
More espressosaurs, please!  I would like a triceratops whose tail is a milk steamer. 
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ysth on 08 Jan 2015, 23:20
She shows up unannounced, shocked to find out he has someone over.

'Who the hell is this gi....wait....SVEN?!'
Can't...stop...laughing....

...

Okay, that's better.  WRT the love stuff, relationships aren't about love, they are about caring and commitment.  Love is a rotten basis for a relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Jan 2015, 23:21
Love doesn't conquer all. Just because her love isn't overcoming her fear of change, doesn't mean she didn't love him. This idea that love is all you need, and if a relationship failed, its because they didn't LOVE each other enough is silly and insulting.

Totally disagree. The whole of what Faye has said to date backs up my belief that she feels that she didn't love him enough and has betrayed both of their feeling out of selfish fear. Whether that is objectively true is irrelevant; it's what Faye feels and it is what is driving her ccurrent behaviour.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: NilsO on 08 Jan 2015, 23:35
I expect Sven to reappear soon. Faye probably still has his number, and will drunk-dial him. This will not be a Good Thing. Let us hope Marten comes to the rescue!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 08 Jan 2015, 23:49
I expect Sven to reappear soon. Faye probably still has his number, and will drunk-dial him. This will not be a Good Thing. Let us hope Marten comes to the rescue!

Or they hook up again, and Sven does everything he can to not be an arsehole, only this time Faye cheats on Sven with this new successful talk-show host...
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 09 Jan 2015, 00:30
Totally disagree. The whole of what Faye has said to date backs up my belief that she feels that she didn't love him enough and has betrayed both of their feeling out of selfish fear. Whether that is objectively true is irrelevant; it's what Faye feels and it is what is driving her ccurrent behaviour.

Based on what evidence. That she says she didn't want to do the right thing? She doesn't say WHY she doesn't want to do the right thing. I mean, I could be wrong, and you could be right, but they are both 100% valid views on her reaction.

But the question is, what takes more assumptions. You are assuming both the reason she doesn't want to and the reason that she thinks she fucked up: for the unstated reason that she feels obligated, something she has never ever expressed before, while my opinion is that she is expressing that she feels that she should have explored it for reasons she has actually said in the past: That she loves him.

The assumption of why she doesn't want to? Eh, we are both making assumptions here. But which one sounds more like Faye: She doesn't love Angus, or she doesn't want change?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Jan 2015, 00:36
It changes things!
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Jan 2015, 01:06
The assumption of why she doesn't want to? Eh, we are both making assumptions here. But which one sounds more like Faye: She doesn't love Angus, or she doesn't want change?

You're insisting on a false distinction. There is, in fact, no difference from both of those. Her fear of change has turned out to be stronger than her love for Angus, when she feels that it ought to be the other way around. That's why she feels guilty.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 09 Jan 2015, 02:10
You're insisting on a false distinction. There is, in fact, no difference from both of those. Her fear of change has turned out to be stronger than her love for Angus, when she feels that it ought to be the other way around. That's why she feels guilty.

The post I'm quoting here is completely and utterly different viewpoint than the original post you made, in which you stated:

Quote
She thought she was in love with Angus. She did and still does feel that she owed it to him to try. However, in the end, she's come to realise that she wasn't in love with him. Maybe she was in love with the idea of being in love with him but that's all.

This is the sentiment I'm disagreeing with. That she wasn't in love with him at all.

So: What do you even mean? Considering your own posts aren't consistently saying the same thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Jan 2015, 02:28
So: What do you even mean? Considering your own posts aren't consistently saying the same thing.

I think I've been consistent - Whether or not she was in love with him, she wasn't as in love as she thought she was.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: DSL on 09 Jan 2015, 04:20
More espressosaurs, please!  I would like a triceratops whose tail is a milk steamer.

Single-cup velociraptors.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: MrNumbers on 09 Jan 2015, 04:29
Single-cup velociraptors.

Great. Now I'm thinking of raptors with a single, large breast wobbling about.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 09 Jan 2015, 05:52
Warning - while you were typing 2 new bottles of Emergency Burbon have been opened. You may wish to review your sobriety.
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No, she's clearly still sipping Glenfartin...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6NFqw-CYAA1T6b.jpg)
(image from @gravweldon)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 09 Jan 2015, 07:26
Single-cup velociraptors.

Great. Now I'm thinking of raptors with a single, large breast wobbling about.

That's better than what popped into my head.....

2 velociraptors, 1 cup


Now you're thinking about it  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Zebediah on 09 Jan 2015, 07:31
Single-cup velociraptors.

Great. Now I'm thinking of raptors with a single, large breast wobbling about.

They are Amazon velociraptors. They burned off one breast so that it wouldn't get in the way of their bowstrings. Because velociraptor archers, man.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ItsNotATumor on 09 Jan 2015, 11:09
I like the way Faye's belly is drawn in panel 1 of 2871. Subtle curve barely noticeable along the pants line.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: eschaton on 09 Jan 2015, 12:24
Everything's set up quite nicely for Sven to enter the picture somehow.  Faye is not only drinking too much, but questioning her prior judgement and thinking she's a bad person. 

To my mind, the biggest question is which Sven shows up when he surfaces again.  Will it be quasi-predatory Sven?  Emotionally stunted Sven?  Blinded by "love" Sven?  Or the post Gina Riversmith Sven who began to try and struggle his way into being a good person. 

I really hope for the last one, because it could take the strip in much more surprising directions.  Sven became much more interesting when he became more than a dick with a guitar strapped to it.  I could honestly see him threading the needle and ending up friends with Faye, reconciling with his sister, and becoming part of the main cast again. 

Or he can bone her once (or for a very short period) and ensure he's persona non grata for the remainder of the strip.  It's really his choice. 
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Welu on 09 Jan 2015, 12:29
I would like to see more of Trying To Be Good Person Sven as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: mustang6172 on 09 Jan 2015, 19:21
On a completely side note: that lower panel in the lower left of 2872 is the most evocative and emotion-filled thing I have ever seen in a webcomic. Bravo, Jeph.

Here, here.  It brought me back to say just that. 

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7494/16232339521_b7e916c216_o.png)

Eye think it's the eyebrow.  So much said (and unsaid) in that slight curl. 

That, and seeing Pintsize fulfilling his primary purpose of companionship, even if it's not with Marten.  He really is better for her than drinking alone.

It seems to me like a comic that dark should be drawn in black & white.

What's this "right thing" Faye keeps talking about it?  Angus?  Sven?  Suicide?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 09 Jan 2015, 19:39
What's this "right thing" Faye keeps talking about it?  Angus?  Sven?  Suicide?

Marten!


Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Jan 2015, 21:53
What's this "right thing" Faye keeps talking about it?  Angus?  Sven?  Suicide?

Angus.  Or5 at least, trying to make it work.  It's the right thing because being together made both of them happy. 

And by not trying, she's making at least one of them miserable. 
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Jan 2015, 05:12
What's this "right thing" Faye keeps talking about it?  Angus?  Sven?  Suicide?

In the immediate terms, I think that she's talking about either trying a long-distance relationship or even going with Angus. However, I think that, on a broader scale, Faye is talking more about the general rut that her life has got into and how easy it is to stay there.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Jan 2015, 21:59
Depression tells lies. It most often tells lies about how the world must see the depressed person, but it often tells lies about the depressed person's choices.

Faye is depressed.

Alcohol is a depressant. Not exactly the same thing, obviously. It does, however, depress the "Wait-just-damn-minute" function of the brain. It makes it more difficult to see the flaws in a line of reasoning.

Depressed people listen to their depression's lies. Dragged out in the harsh light of day, 60% or more of the lies aren't even based in reality. 30% or so, are based in reality but distort it. The rest are close enough to the truth, that even the healthy mind wrestles with them. That rest carry 30% which. in turn, carry the 60%. If this is true, that must also be true, so that over there is also true, and that means I should kill myself.

It escalates quickly.

Faye is drunk.

A depressed person is already suffering from reason impairment and is also drunk.

I'd love to read something into what she's saying, but I don't think there's a greater truth about her relationship with Angus contained in this. The greater truth is that she doesn't like herself very much right now.
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jan 2015, 23:28
May I repost that in the Pessimism & Depression thread?
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 10 Jan 2015, 23:49
Sure. :)
Title: Re: WCDT 5 - 9 January 2015 (Strips 2868-2872)
Post by: jwhouk on 11 Jan 2015, 17:55
(Stands up and applauds Reindeer Flotilla)