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Title: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Nepiophage on 28 Jan 2015, 22:26
A point that has been niggling at me for a while. Everyone in the forum calls her Veronica. But Veronica Vance is her professional name. Her real name is Vicky (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2391).
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Near Lurker on 28 Jan 2015, 22:40
The castpage (http://questionablecontent.net/cast.php) has her as "Veronica Reed."  (And here I thought this thread would be about her "real" last name...)
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Penquin47 on 28 Jan 2015, 23:08
Also she tells Faye (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=461) to call her Veronica, so either that is her real name or it's what she prefers to be called despite it being a stage name.  I've never heard Vicky as a nickname for Veronica but that doesn't mean it couldn't happen, I suppose... or as part of their hate-friendship Jane deliberately got the name wrong.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: ybtlamw on 28 Jan 2015, 23:23
The first time I read this strip I assumed it was a part of their back-and-forth verbal faux-hate barrage. There's nothing that implies it's her real name, although it very well could be.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Omega Entity on 28 Jan 2015, 23:25
The first time I read this strip I assumed it was a part of their back-and-forth verbal faux-hate barrage. There's nothing that implies it's her real name, although it very well could be.
That's how I took it too. After all, how annoying is it when someone who should know your name gets it wrong?
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Storel on 29 Jan 2015, 00:11
Vicky could be a nickname for Veronica.  Veronica => V----ica => Vicky.

A bit of a stretch, but really not as much as, say, "Polly" for "Margaret". (Yes, that's a real one, IIRC.)
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Omega Entity on 29 Jan 2015, 00:13
Oh, I totally understand it could be short for Veronica. But considering how they're riffing insults of of each other as they are, I'd put money down that Vicky is a nickname that Veronica hates, making it an insult for it to be used against her.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: K1dmor on 29 Jan 2015, 00:22
 Vicky, Vicky, where did i hear that name before?

 Oh, right (http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Vicky).
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: BenRG on 29 Jan 2015, 01:25
Oedipus Rex? Mr Oedipus Rex, please pick up the red courtesy phone!
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: pwhodges on 29 Jan 2015, 01:30
Or Jeph could just have slipped up, like with Marcel/Maurice.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: hedgie on 29 Jan 2015, 01:32
Oedipus Rex? Mr Oedipus Rex, please pick up the red courtesy phone!

Hey, he was just a boy who really loved his mother.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Nepiophage on 29 Jan 2015, 01:45
Oedipus Rex? Mr Oedipus Rex, please pick up the red courtesy phone!

Hey, he was just a boy who really loved his mother.

One thing on which you can depend is
He sure knew who a boy's best friend is . . .

Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: hedgie on 29 Jan 2015, 02:15
Yes, that was *exactly* the song I was thinking of when I posted that.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: osaka on 29 Jan 2015, 02:19
Nah, seriously. Sped 25 minutes in my area and every nickname will be considered perfectly legit. We in the north of Spain tend to do that.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: explicit on 29 Jan 2015, 02:20
I'm... uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: ASB84 on 29 Jan 2015, 02:47
I figured it was a slip-up, or that Vicky is simply a nickname that some of her friends use. Even if it's the former, the latter serves as a fair explanation to clean up the mistake.

Speaking of names and that story arc...I'd like to know whether Ms. Reed calling Claire "Clarice" (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2383) was a subtle nod to Clarice from Girls With Slingshots, who, like Veronica/Vicky, is a dominatrix.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Storel on 31 Jan 2015, 10:14
I love Tom Lehrer.  :-D




No, not that way!!  :roll:
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Rghfrgl on 31 Jan 2015, 10:19
A bit of a stretch, but really not as much as, say, "Polly" for "Margaret". (Yes, that's a real one, IIRC.)

I worked with a Margaret that went by Peggy.

I don't know how that works.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: pwhodges on 31 Jan 2015, 10:23
Peggy is a common short name for Margaret - details (https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060818052837AAz7m9H).

OTOH I know a Lisbeth who goes by Mab, and I have no idea how that comes about.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Zebediah on 31 Jan 2015, 10:29
Lots of weird nicknames out there. "Chuck" for Charles and "Jack" for John are the two that spring immediately to mind.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Storel on 31 Jan 2015, 10:59
I know (online, not in RL) an Elizabeth who goes by Zab -- it took me a while to figure out that it came from "eliZABeth".  8-)
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: celticgeek on 31 Jan 2015, 11:03
My sister's son was named Christoper.  For many years they called him "Topher", rather than "Chris".
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 31 Jan 2015, 11:56
Let's not forget the classic "Dick" for "Richard".
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: KOK on 31 Jan 2015, 12:11
William becomes Bill, so logically Richard should be Bitch. But it is not nice to call someone Bitch. That is why Richard is Dick. Or so I have heard.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: DrBear on 31 Jan 2015, 13:27
On the other hand, my legal name is Ray, not Raymond.
That's because I was named after my grandfather Alonzo.
(pause for the inevitable "Huh?" and continue)
His nickname was Ray, so I got that.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jan 2015, 13:46
My first name is James, I got that from my Father James, but most people called him Jim.  I don't like that, it's just a personal thing, but I am tolerant of people using Jimmy or Jimmy boy in jest - but only so far.

Now here's the thing, my third name is Noel, and I was called that for many years, just to differentiate me from my Father.  This was my commonly used first name right up till the late eighties when I had to change it to my real first name due to circumstances where I worked.  I've never gone back and I prefer James these days.

*Shrugs*

It's just one of those things that happens.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: pwhodges on 31 Jan 2015, 14:46
My son James simply decided in his teens that he wanted to be called Max, and has kept to it ever since (he's now 48).
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Zebediah on 31 Jan 2015, 14:55
Funny story from my wife's family: Back in the 1960s my father-in-law's three sisters decided to adopt male nicknames in order to annoy their extremely conservative father. (It worked, too.) So they became Martin, Oscar and Jake.

Fifty years later, and nearly thirty years after their father died, all three of them still go by those nicknames. Makes it interesting when my wife talks about her aunt Jake to people who don't know the story.  :-D
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: TheEvilDog on 31 Jan 2015, 15:00
I just realised this happens a lot in my family:
My grandfather was named James, but everyone called him Jim.
My uncle is also named James, everyone calls him Jimmy.
My cousin (his nephew), surprise surprise, James, but we all call him Jamie (even though he insists on being called James now).
My great-uncle is called Paul, but we call him Duck (because it's far more polite than another word it rhymes with).
My father is Paul as well, but beyond a pub nickname of "Black Paul" (which is used if Liverpool ever lose), you can't really shorten it.
Then there's me, and because of my father, most of our extended family calls me Paul Joseph to differentiate us, which has kind of gotten to friends so that's what most people call me nowadays. Used to hate it when I was younger, but meh, it's not too bad these days.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: pwhodges on 31 Jan 2015, 15:08
my father-in-law's three sisters decided to adopt male nicknames in order to annoy their extremely conservative father.

Love it!  My daughter Catherine goes by Kit, which is usually Christopher - but has been used for Catherine in the past.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Penquin47 on 31 Jan 2015, 15:22
The weirdest nickname in my family was my grandfather.  His name was Richard Elmo, he was going to be called Elmo, but when he was about two someone decided he looked like a Jiggs and that's what he was called until he died.

Both of his daughters go by their first names, both of his sons go by their middle names (although Dad's starting to go by his first name at work).

On Mom's side, Mom goes by the short form of her first name (Susan, shortened to Sue), her two youngest siblings go by their first names, and her brother goes by Chuck (his father is Charlie and his grandfather was Charles, they had to do SOMETHING).

Among my generation, the weirdest is Erin Elizabeth and Erin Paige, who are sisters-in-law who share the same first name and one that you can't really do much with.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Kugai on 31 Jan 2015, 20:46
My late Mothers first name was Winifred, but she hated being called that and went by her second name, Mary, all her life.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Storel on 31 Jan 2015, 23:08
My daughter Catherine goes by Kit, which is usually Christopher - but has been used for Catherine in the past.

My name is Christopher, and my twin sister's name was Katharine -- I was Chris and she was Kit, pretty much from infancy on. I hadn't heard of Kit being used for Katharine/Catherine before her; who do you know of? Not Catherine the Great, surely?

Whoops, sorry, didn't mean to call you Shirley...  :laugh:

Oh, and this is a true family story. My grandmother's original name was Snow Frances Smith, but when she decided to marry a fellow named Karl Green she said she'd be damned before she'd become Snow Green...  :psyduck: So she dropped "Snow" entirely and became Frances S. Green -- the S. for Smith, mind you, not Snow. Not that anyone but strangers ever called her Frances -- she was "Greenie" to friends and family for as long as I knew her.

And yeah, I've probably just given enough information for someone to track me down in real life -- but fuck it. If you're that good a detective, I'd like to meet you.  8-)
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Omega Entity on 31 Jan 2015, 23:27
My mom's name is Shirley, haha. I actually call her Mere (French for Mother) more than Mom. My sister, some years back, had taken a ton of French in high school, and took to calling her Mere. I picked up on it, and it's stuck ever since. Though some people look at us funny, presumably because they likely think I'm calling her a female horse  :psyduck:

Back on topic, I'm only named Danielle because my mother wanted to call me Dani, and apparently outright naming a girl Dani was unheard of in the 80's. I doubt anyone'd bat an eye nowadays, though. 
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: pwhodges on 31 Jan 2015, 23:38
I actually call her Mere (French for Mother) more than Mom.

My mother was known as Mare by the family and good friends, because my father was known as Horse (because of noises he used to make).  For a time I was Foal minor, but that didn't stick beyond about 12.

My late Mothers first name was Winifred,

People often confuse my second name (Winfrith) with that - but they're actually unrelated.

I hadn't heard of Kit being used for Katharine/Catherine before her; who do you know of? Not Catherine the Great, surely?

An old lady I knew had known one, is all.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: KOK on 31 Jan 2015, 23:54
In these parts male names do not get shortened. I once knew a boy of 4 called Alexander. Only once did I hear him being called Alex. this was by a boy of his own age. My impression was that it was an honest mistake. Alexander corrected him at once.

The only standard nicknames are for one syllable names:

Karl -> Kalle
Lars -> Lasse
Poul -> Palle, Pelle, Polle, Pølle

All save the last two are now also used as real names, and not often used as nicknames anymore.

Female names used to be shortened:
Marie (three syllables) -> Mie (two syllables)
Sofie (three syllables) -> Fie (two syllables)
Susanne -> Sanne
Katrine -> Trine
Kirstine -> Stine
and so on

I don't think it is done so aften anymore. Again, some of these are now also used as real names.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: ybtlamw on 01 Feb 2015, 04:01
William becomes Bill, so logically Richard should be Bitch. But it is not nice to call someone Bitch. That is why Richard is Dick. Or so I have heard.

I very confused as to how you came to the conclusion that since "Bill" is short for "William," "Bitch" should be short for "Richard." I'm... I can't even figure that one out. Hahaha.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: DSL on 01 Feb 2015, 05:25
William becomes Bill, so logically Richard should be Bitch. But it is not nice to call someone Bitch. That is why Richard is Dick. Or so I have heard.

I very confused as to how you came to the conclusion that since "Bill" is short for "William," "Bitch" should be short for "Richard." I'm... I can't even figure that one out. Hahaha.
Can't speak for KOK, bug I suspect facetiousness. I do see the logic, though: Shorten the name, begin it with "B". ???. Profit.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Schmorgluck on 01 Feb 2015, 05:47
There's also the case of "Edward" giving "Ted" or "Ned".
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: DSL on 01 Feb 2015, 08:37
In my family there was my dad, also named Donald, who answered to "Dodge." My uncle Marvin answered to "Mutz." -- but only for certain family members from their generation. (Yes, my dad owned one Dodge vehicle. After it lurched to its final halt, he vowed never again.)
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: cesium133 on 01 Feb 2015, 08:42
My dad's side of the family had all sorts of weird nicknames. His dad was Dynamite (for his violent temper...), and his cousins included Hezzie, Wiz, and Hen (whose actual name was not Henry; it was John).
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: KOK on 01 Feb 2015, 09:47
William becomes Bill, so logically Richard should be Bitch. But it is not nice to call someone Bitch. That is why Richard is Dick. Or so I have heard.

I very confused as to how you came to the conclusion that since "Bill" is short for "William," "Bitch" should be short for "Richard." I'm... I can't even figure that one out. Hahaha.

Asw I wrote, this is something I have heard. I did not come to that conclusion myself.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Carl-E on 02 Feb 2015, 06:48
My mother's name is Elinor (yeah, I know, the spelling's "wrong").  She had an older sister Lee, so her folks didn't want to call her "Ellie", it seemed too close to Lee. 

So they started calling her Eddie. 

It stuck.  She's 76 and still goes by Eddie. 

My father also still gets mail addressed to "Mr. Eddie [last name]".  He's Robert / Bob. 

That's right, i grew up through the 60's and 70's with parents named Bob and Eddie.  It was a little weird. 


Middle name use wasn't an option, neither of my parents have one.  They were both youngest children born during the depression, and the story from both families was that they were too broke to afford a middle name at the time...  :?
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Zebediah on 02 Feb 2015, 07:20
Yeah, that's the story behind why my dad was named after his father. It was the Depression, and they couldn't afford a name so his dad gave him his.  :lol:
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: BenRG on 02 Feb 2015, 07:22
You don't even necessarily have nicknames based on your forename. My dad's nickname is from the first part of his surname.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Omega Entity on 02 Feb 2015, 09:50
Hell, sometimes the entire last name is the nickname. One of my old gaming buddies was often called just by his last name.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Schmorgluck on 02 Feb 2015, 10:27
One of my high-school friends' nickname is based on a stupid pun on his last name. We even offered him a chain bracelet engraved with it.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Zebediah on 02 Feb 2015, 11:13
My best friend in college was named Scott. In the school phone directory his name was misspelled "Scoot". From that day forward, "Scoot" was his name.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Omega Entity on 02 Feb 2015, 13:45
My nickname in my 10th grade sculpture class was Water Wench, for I was the one who was responsible for providing our table with water :-P
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: explicit on 02 Feb 2015, 13:53
Mine oftentimes revolved around the fact that I'm Asian and most my friends are black. Because I've always been pretty much the only Asian guy in any group of friends I've been with, I've often just been referred to as "Asian". Maybe all my friends are just dicks?

Also, my dad goes by Chip even though his given name is Arthur. Apparently his mother had a hard time calling a baby Arthur and just called him Chip for some reason.
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Kugai on 02 Feb 2015, 14:15
There's also the case of "Edward" giving "Ted" or "Ned".

Or Lord Stark  :-D
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Orkboy on 02 Feb 2015, 14:17
As a large, hairy man named Richard, there are a limited number of nicknames for me that can be said in public.  One of the guys I used to work with spontaneously decided that my nickname was baby gangster, however, and he stuck by his decision until I got out of the air force.  The military seems to specialize in weird nicknames. 
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: explicit on 02 Feb 2015, 14:27
The military seems to specialize in weird nicknames. 

(http://terminallance.com/media/comics/x2010-01-05-Strip_1_Nunchukus_web.jpg.pagespeed.ic.XJG6DsP7sT.webp)
Title: Re: Ms. Reed's name
Post by: Pilchard123 on 03 Feb 2015, 00:11
Quote from: Anthony Buckeridge, Jennings Goes to School
"Of course not, " said Venables. "His name's Temple, and his initials are C. A. T., so naturally we call him Dog."

"But you didn't call him Dog, you called him Bod."

"Give me a chance to get a word in," said Venables. "I haven't finished yet. It's a bit of a sweat calling him Dog, so we call him Dogsbody for short."

"But it isn't short, " protested Jennings. "Dogsbody's much longer than Dog.""

"Okay, then, it needs shortening. Bod short for Body, and Dogsbody short for Dog. Really! You new oiks are dim at picking things up."