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Title: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Feb 2015, 06:28
Well it's the week after one of the biggest moments (and, possibly, one of the most controversial moments) in the history of QC. Where can we go from here?

I feel that owe fellow members something of an explanation. The reason that I keep saying 'time skip' is twofold. Firstly, for the past few weeks I've on several occasions felt that Jeph is wrapping up short-term plot-lines and the only real way to move forwards is to jump ahead to a point in-universe when the longer-term plot lines start to mature. Secondly, I really didn't think that there was any way for Jeph to get certain milestones past in character interactions in the current in-universe time frame.

I think last week probably proved me wrong on both those

To me, there are two obvious themes for next week and both are associated with Claire and Marten:

Firstly, Clairten Pillow Talk - This idea puts me in mind of the episode epilogues in Hill Street Blues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_Street_Blues), which were inevitably Capt Frank Furillo and his lover, Joyce Davenport (a lawyer in the DA's office), in bed together talking about the lessons learned in the episode. You could probably pull something similar off with Marten and Claire just spending five joke-per-day strips in bed together, talking about their friends and what happens next in a character-building way.

Alternately, you could have The Morning After the Night Before - I more or less suggested this in last week's thread when I outlined some strips that could indicate how other characters might react to the change in the precise nature of Marten and Claire's relationship.

There are other options but it would require an arc focus switch.

What do you guys (and gals) think?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 08 Feb 2015, 10:05
Poor Marten. Everyone keeps keeping him up all night.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 08 Feb 2015, 10:18
I can take Marten/Claire as read at this point.

Dora has just burned bridges with her brother and her best friend in under a week. If we don't check in with her soon, I am going to feel cheated.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 10:20
Poor Marten. Everyone keeps keeping him up all night.

Next he'll be kept awake by Pintsize singing murder ballads from the closet in which he's been locked. Then Dora will call looking for advice on handling Faye; Sven will call for advice on handling Dora. Sunup. Veronica will call insisting that Marten and Claire join she and Jim for breakfast. Hanners will require help with something vaguely shady but disturbingly nonspecific (that later turns out to be nothing). Steve will call Marten for drinks. Marten will pass out at the bar, and fall asleep for the next 72 hours of comic time (four to five weeks real time), whereupon Jeph will tie off a few remaining dangly plot points. Marten will wake up, wonder why everyone's acting so different, and refuse to believe he's only been out a few days.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 08 Feb 2015, 10:25
Dora has just burned bridges with her brother and her best friend in under a week. If we don't check in with her soon, I am going to feel cheated.

Yeah, the Svenpocalypse has been just kind of hanging now for so long, and the Faye issues added on, it just seems like stuff with Dora just happens and then we see nothing else from it again.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Feb 2015, 10:27
@Aziraphale,

I can see Marten walking into the kitchen, looking at the clock and seeing that the time is something past midday. He panics and starts trying to get dressed for work, eat a truncated breakfast and take care of personal hygiene all at once. Claire will stop him and tell him that he's got the day off. Tai had told her yesterday that he could have until Monday off so he could help Faye get her feet underneath her again.

"Did you turn off my alarm clock?"

"Yeah, I did." Then he'd kiss her and thank her.

It would be a nice little moment reminding us that they are all friends and that, professionalism aside, everyone goes out of their way to help a friend. Especially when said friend is helping a friend himself.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Channelore HellicottAtham on 08 Feb 2015, 10:35
I daresay that Friday's strip wrapped up the Marten & Claire show for now; I think that coming up next we'll see an update on Pintsize (one strip or part thereof I guess) and progress on Dora's timeline (at least a couple, chatting with others). Plus Faye, more shakeouts from the Fayepocalypse as the dust settles.

I have fingers crossed Pintsize & Faye interact more during their mutual recoveries.. he's shown he does know the companion role well, and I think his different take on it and blunter approach would suit Faye much more than it does Marten. I don't think his hidden depths are entirely filled with porn..

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Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Channelore HellicottAtham on 08 Feb 2015, 10:39
Firstly, Clairten Pillow Talk - This idea puts me in mind of the episode epilogues in Hill Street Blues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_Street_Blues), which were inevitably Capt Frank Furillo and his lover, Joyce Davenport (a lawyer in the DA's office), in bed together talking about the lessons learned in the episode.

Good lord.. I've neither watched nor even thought of HSB for many a decade - and didn't actually watch it myself when it was on back in the day, I 'twas but a nipper - yet upon reading that I instantly got the theme tune in my head again!  :police:
Anyway, carry on..
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 10:41
Dora has just burned bridges with her brother and her best friend in under a week. If we don't check in with her soon, I am going to feel cheated.

Yeah, the Svenpocalypse has been just kind of hanging now for so long, and the Faye issues added on, it just seems like stuff with Dora just happens and then we see nothing else from it again.

That has been a particularly glaring omission. I remember Jeph saying he had plans for Sven when he first popped back up again. While he may be looking much longer-term than is apparent, I'm starting to wonder if he forgot.

I daresay that Friday's strip wrapped up the Marten & Claire show for now; I think that coming up next we'll see an update on Pintsize (one strip or part thereof I guess) and progress on Dora's timeline (at least a couple, chatting with others). Plus Faye, more shakeouts from the Fayepocalypse as the dust settles.

I have fingers crossed Pintsize & Faye interact more during their mutual recoveries.. he's shown he does know the companion role well, and I think his different take on it and blunter approach would suit Faye much more than it does Marten. I don't think his hidden depths are entirely filled with porn..


This is possible, especially since Pintsize did say to May at one point that his work with Marten was pretty much done.

Ben: I like the thought of that.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Feb 2015, 10:58
Waffles!!!!


There's always a place for Waffles
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Feb 2015, 11:20
Hoped to be seen lines of dialogue this week:

"Where were you, Faye?"

"At Doctor Corinne's office. I've got a lot to get off of my chest."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Feb 2015, 11:27
Hoped to be seen lines of dialogue this week:

"I'm not hiring you back, Faye..."

"I don't want to come back!"

"...but you're welcome to use the welding space whenever you want.  Just don't burn down the shop."

(On second thought, Dora probably shouldn't give Faye that amount of trust until she's gone through some therapy and been sober for a decent length of time, but it would be nice to see them reconciled eventually.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 08 Feb 2015, 11:30
Hoped to be seen lines of dialogue this week:

"Where were you, Faye?"

"At Doctor Corinne's office. I've got a lot to get off of my chest."

*pintsize makes joke*
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Natswash on 08 Feb 2015, 11:30
Waffles!!!!


There's always a place for Waffles

I think Pancakes are traditional
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 12:13
Poor Marten. Everyone keeps keeping him up all night.
Well, yeah, but at least this time, he's up all night to get lucky.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: K1dmor on 08 Feb 2015, 12:32
 (http://i.imgur.com/sPgE3lZ.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Smallest on 08 Feb 2015, 12:42
Poor Marten. Everyone keeps keeping him up all night.
Well, yeah, but at least this time, he's up all night to get lucky.

I was just thinking- he took Faye to the hospital at night, and they stayed there quite some hours, but apparently not more than one day. It could only be like, 2, and that might be why he doesn't want to sleep, in case it messes him up more to go to bed early and change that whole thing.

I'm assuming he's mainly awake by chance, but avoiding too many naps isn't a bad time, if it's daytime.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 12:48
Waffles!!!!


There's always a place for Waffles

I think Pancakes are traditional

FUCK WAFFLES, I GET IRRATIONALLY MAD WHEN SOMEONE SUGGESTS WAFFLES OVER PANCAKES

That's a true thing, I need to go work out now to get rid of all this aggression.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 08 Feb 2015, 12:55
Dora has just burned bridges with her brother and her best friend in under a week. If we don't check in with her soon, I am going to feel cheated.

Yeah, the Svenpocalypse has been just kind of hanging now for so long, and the Faye issues added on, it just seems like stuff with Dora just happens and then we see nothing else from it again.

That has been a particularly glaring omission. I remember Jeph saying he had plans for Sven when he first popped back up again. While he may be looking much longer-term than is apparent, I'm starting to wonder if he forgot.

I suspect an aborted arc (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbortedArc).  <==  WARNING: TVTropes link
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Feb 2015, 13:07
FWIW, I think that Sven/Faye was meant to be a long-term thing with Faye basically teaching Sven the ways of non-doucheness and the two finding happiness and meaning together. However, I think that Jeph just decided that he didn't want to do it for various reasons. Maybe he worked out some Faye arcs that he found more interesting for which he thought Sven would be an impediment.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Feb 2015, 13:11
I suspect an aborted arc (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbortedArc).  <==  WARNING: TVTropes link

Excluding filler, it's been nearly 30 weeks since that arc was introduced and coming up on 22 since it was last mentioned. Your suspicions probably represent a good call.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: K1dmor on 08 Feb 2015, 13:20
Dora has just burned bridges with her brother and her best friend in under a week. If we don't check in with her soon, I am going to feel cheated.

Yeah, the Svenpocalypse has been just kind of hanging now for so long, and the Faye issues added on, it just seems like stuff with Dora just happens and then we see nothing else from it again.

That has been a particularly glaring omission. I remember Jeph saying he had plans for Sven when he first popped back up again. While he may be looking much longer-term than is apparent, I'm starting to wonder if he forgot.

I suspect an aborted arc (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbortedArc).  <==  WARNING: TVTropes link

 (http://i.imgur.com/0aDQAos.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 14:45
Hoped to be seen lines of dialogue this week:

"I'm not hiring you back, Faye..."

"I don't want to come back!"

"...but you're welcome to use the welding space whenever you want.  Just don't burn down the shop."

(On second thought, Dora probably shouldn't give Faye that amount of trust until she's gone through some therapy and been sober for a decent length of time, but it would be nice to see them reconciled eventually.)

You're talking about someone who burned down her apartment making toast. It wouldn't even have to be on purpose.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 14:47
... Don't let her anywhere near to bunny orphanage.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Feb 2015, 15:32
My unlikely prediction for this week:  Claire and Marten are kissing in his bed when they're interrupted by knocking on the door.  When Marten opens the door he finds Padma on the other side, who greets him with a very aggressive kiss.  Chaos ensues.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 08 Feb 2015, 15:36
My unlikely prediction for this week:  Claire and Marten are kissing in his bed when they're interrupted by knocking on the door.  When Marten opens the door he finds Padma on the other side, who greets him with a very aggressive kiss.  Chaos ensues.

Vicky, if it's chaos you want.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 15:39
It's Steve... and then after Steve, Angus. Then Faye. Then everyone dies. The end!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Honkytonk on 08 Feb 2015, 15:45
I'm really looking forward to this week of QC more than I have in a long time. Good good good good stuff.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 08 Feb 2015, 17:10
The cast of Girls with Slingshots shows up, along with any Shortpacked! characters who don't have jobs in Dumbing of Age.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 17:17
DSL: I thought Randy Milholland had dibs on torturing the refugees of concluded webcomics.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Feb 2015, 17:19
The cast of Girls with Slingshots shows up, along with any Shortpacked! characters who don't have jobs in Dumbing of Age.
Sydney Yus gets hired to replace Faye at Coffee of Doom, gets fired soon afterward, and swears revenge on Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 08 Feb 2015, 17:50
Waffles!!!!


There's always a place for Waffles

I think Pancakes are traditional

FUCK WAFFLES, I GET IRRATIONALLY MAD WHEN SOMEONE SUGGESTS WAFFLES OVER PANCAKES


I endorse this comment.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 17:55
Waffles!!!!


There's always a place for Waffles

I think Pancakes are traditional

FUCK WAFFLES, I GET IRRATIONALLY MAD WHEN SOMEONE SUGGESTS WAFFLES OVER PANCAKES


I endorse this comment.

Well, depends. As much as I love pancakes, some things require waffles (chicken, for instance, or ice cream).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 17:55
Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 17:59
Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?

There's a few different versions, each with different preparation. There's a Pennsylvania version and a Southern version (broadly speaking), with variations on both.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: War Sparrow on 08 Feb 2015, 18:04
Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?
Some Canadians do, in fancy hipster bars/diners. And bless them for it. I first had chicken and waffles down in California, and I'll be damned if it wasn't the best thing I've eaten. But it's very much a southern thing.

As for the upcoming strip, I hope we have a Dora/Faye/Sven arc next. I want to see where that goes.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 08 Feb 2015, 18:15
One thing I definitely want to see next week is a claireblush, other than that I think the comic should move on to something new. As adorable as they are as a pair there's only so far you can go before risking a sugar induced coma.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 08 Feb 2015, 18:18

I suspect an aborted arc (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbortedArc).  <==  WARNING: TVTropes link

Well damn, just lost a while down THAT hole.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 08 Feb 2015, 18:20

I suspect an aborted arc (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AbortedArc).  <==  WARNING: TVTropes link

Well damn, just lost a while down THAT hole.

Take the blue pill next time :p
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 18:25
Hey, sometimes when you get older you have to take blue pills to go into holes.


I'm so so sorry.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 18:26
And if things feel a bit stiff after four hours, please see your friendly neighborhood physician.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Feb 2015, 18:27
Hey, sometimes when you get older you have to take blue pills to go into holes.


I'm so so sorry.

That one deserves the hose.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MooskiNet on 08 Feb 2015, 18:28
Hey, sometimes when you get older you have to take blue pills to go into holes.


I'm so so sorry.

That one deserves the hose.

 I'm going to assume single entendre here.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 18:30
Hey, If I took the pill then I'm all for the hose.

I need to stop yesterday.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 08 Feb 2015, 18:32
I'm voting "Faye's Long Dark Breakfast of the Soul," interrupted by some a certain lovey-dovey couple walking into the kitchen.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 08 Feb 2015, 18:33
That one deserves the hose.

Heh... hose.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Feb 2015, 18:34
That one deserves the hose.

 I'm going to assume single entendre here.

*hangs head in shame*

Yes.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 08 Feb 2015, 18:36
Hey, If I took the pill then I'm all for the hose.

I need to stop yesterday.

Ten yard penalty.  Roughriding the readership.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk3/thesteelersnat/IMG-referee-flag.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 18:39
I could make a joke using that too, but I feel like we're done here. We know what I'm about now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 18:41
Riding us roughly? Bareback or what?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 08 Feb 2015, 18:44
New subject HEY EVERYONE DO YOU THINK PINTSIZE IS OKAY Y/N
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 18:46
Probably okay... but we won't know for sure until he makes a butt joke.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Feb 2015, 18:46
Pintman can always come back and sub for him if he needs time to recover.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: osaka on 08 Feb 2015, 18:50
And that's my cue to say something about any type of liquid cooling system Pintsize might have that involves hoses.

Dammit that was poor as heck.

Warning - while you were not making a joke a new reply has been posted. You may wish to cover your bum.

I think the last thing Faye needs in her life is to wake up the day after her massive fuckup to Pintman. As in "Oh god I actually killed Pintsize I'm a much more horribler* human being than I thought I was aaaaaa".

*Horribler is a word now, and totally not a typo.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Feb 2015, 18:52
Pintman can always come back and sub for him if he needs time to recover.

Pintman MUST come back.  It must happen.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Feb 2015, 18:52
Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?

Intelligent Southerners.

And REALLY intelligent ones put a paste of hot cayenne peppers on the chicken before they put them on the Waffles.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 18:53
Pintsize didn't look damaged, he just looked turned off. I'm guessing he's fine.

Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?

Intelligent Southerners.

And REALLY intelligent ones put a paste of hot cayenne peppers on the chicken before they put them on the Waffles.

Hopefully not before putting the toilet paper in the freezer.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 18:54
In other questions: What happened to Jeph's twitter feed on the page? I don't have a twitter, nor do I have the want to go get one, so the feed was really helpful...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MooskiNet on 08 Feb 2015, 18:55
Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?

Intelligent Southerners.

And REALLY intelligent ones put a paste of hot cayenne peppers on the chicken before they put them on the Waffles.

There's a place called the Metro Diner here in Jacksonville that does this.

ALL LOVE TO METRO DINER.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 08 Feb 2015, 18:56
Just Google "Nashville Hot Chicken".

And the TP in the Freezer isn't a bad idea.

I'd like to know what happened to the Twitter feed on the page, too. Plugin stopped working?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 18:57
Perhaps Jeph moved it in anticipation of things blowing up. Or maybe he's fixing the site layout (I remember it being borked up for people now and then a while back)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 08 Feb 2015, 19:00
Hey, If I took the pill then I'm all for the hose.

I need to stop yesterday.

Ten yard penalty.  Roughriding the readership.

(http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk3/thesteelersnat/IMG-referee-flag.jpg)
They're just living up to their name  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 19:01
It is how I've come to have this internet handle. All the sex and poop jokes.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 08 Feb 2015, 19:19
And if things feel a bit stiff after four hours, please see your friendly neighborhood physician.

Hell, if I've still got one after four hours, I'm tellin' every-damn-body.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 19:21
And if things feel a bit stiff after four hours, please see your friendly neighborhood physician.

Hell, if I've still got one after four hours, I'm tellin' every-damn-body.

Boners are best when shared with others.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Feb 2015, 19:30
Jeph's Twitter feed is available from the web, http://www.twitter.com/jephjacques.

Now, here's a far-out speculation. Pintsize as a source of louche mischief is pretty well worn out. He's been wondering whether to make a change. Is there some AnthroPC equivalent to having blood flow to the brain cut off for too long? Could he have incurred damage that would require software patches? Will he recover as a different personality?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Feb 2015, 19:35
Comic's up

D'aaaaawwwwwww

If keeping your glasses on during sex is kinky, I'm gonna have to do some re-evaluating of my life
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 19:36
They porked. That's neat.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: aegispro on 08 Feb 2015, 19:37
*squee to end all squees*
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: wlewisiii on 08 Feb 2015, 19:39
Kinky pillow talk. The finest kind.

My 13 year old son just looked at me funny over that half strangled squeeeeeeeeeee though
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 08 Feb 2015, 19:40
Personal preference, but I hate wearing glasses during sex. Yeah, I'm short sighted, but I'd rather that than spectacle induced injuries (they've happened!)


Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to let the air out of everyone else's tyres.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 19:40
Kinky pillow talk. The finest kind.

My 13 year old son just looked at me funny over that half strangled squeeeeeeeeeee though

Which is almost as embarrassing as getting caught watching porn
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Feb 2015, 19:41
Welcome, aegispro! Squee and the world squees with you.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Feb 2015, 19:44
Not sure I could survive that...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 08 Feb 2015, 19:44
Oof.  I love glasses, both on myself and on my partner, but I can't fathom the thought of leaving them on while doing the deed.  There's the fogging and the potential for splashing.  I hate trying to clean dried up water and soft drinks, I can't imagine trying to clean bodily fluids off of them.  In other news, I think I have diabetes now.  So damn sweet.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MooskiNet on 08 Feb 2015, 19:44
Marten doesn't appear to be NEARLY as tired. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 08 Feb 2015, 19:49
Jeph's Twitter feed is available from the web, http://www.twitter.com/jephjacques.

Now, here's a far-out speculation. Pintsize as a source of louche mischief is pretty well worn out. He's been wondering whether to make a change. Is there some AnthroPC equivalent to having blood flow to the brain cut off for too long? Could he have incurred damage that would require software patches? Will he recover as a different personality?

I can't imagine that happening.  We've seen Pintsize's files being backed up in the past, so at worst he might have the equivalent of amnesia if his most recent backup hasn't been recent.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 08 Feb 2015, 19:52
Claire's into some really kinky shit, man, like actually seeing her partner during sex. You're a wild woman, Red.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: HeavyP on 08 Feb 2015, 19:53
Marten doesn't appear to be NEARLY as tired.

Still riding the high - give him five to ten minutes and he will be passed the fuck OUT.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Yarin on 08 Feb 2015, 19:53
Cute :psyduck: so very cute
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 08 Feb 2015, 19:54
New subject HEY EVERYONE DO YOU THINK PINTSIZE IS OKAY Y/N

NO! He hasn't been right since they turned him on.

Warning - while you were typing, Pintsize uploaded horse porn on your PC. You may wish to review your porn stash.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Feb 2015, 19:55
NO! He hasn't been right since they turned him on.
He hasn't been right, he's been left.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Feb 2015, 19:56
Marten doesn't appear to be NEARLY as tired.

Doing something you enjoy tends to flood your brain with endorphins, which makes your body ignore how tired it is.

In 5 minutes he'll be out cold (unless Claire starts round two  :-D)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Feb 2015, 19:56
Nah. Pintsize would load donkey porn. Everyone knows he's an ass man. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Orkboy on 08 Feb 2015, 19:56
The biggest problem with glasses is that they get in the way when you want to put your face somewhere interesting. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 19:57
Jeph's Twitter feed is available from the web, http://www.twitter.com/jephjacques.

Now, here's a far-out speculation. Pintsize as a source of louche mischief is pretty well worn out. He's been wondering whether to make a change. Is there some AnthroPC equivalent to having blood flow to the brain cut off for too long? Could he have incurred damage that would require software patches? Will he recover as a different personality?

I don't think it'd take anything that drastic. I know I'm in the minority in terms of people who think character development is a possibility in this comic (I'm only being slightly sarcastic), but I think Faye may not have been the only one getting a wake-up call after that last bender (he may feel/realize he enabled her to a degree -- see 2870 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2870). I'm sure he'll still be his usual wiseass self, but maybe with a bit more wise and a bit less ass.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Feb 2015, 19:57
Nah. Pintsize would load donkey porn. Everyone knows he's an ass man. :)

Dammit, two pages in and you've already won the topic!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 19:59
Warning - while you were reading 6 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Holy hell, really? I swear I didn't take very long reading the thread.

Anyway... So much cute here. I may need to see a dentist soon. Also, yay glasses!

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Seriously, Thread?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 20:02
Claire's into some really kinky shit, man, like actually seeing her partner during sex. You're a wild woman, Red.

I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 08 Feb 2015, 20:03
I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.

That's very sad.  After such a great moment..to say this?   :(
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 08 Feb 2015, 20:03
Honesty, not feeling this strip. Wanna get back to Faye and see how she's doing. Or Dora... but I'm clearly in the minority so, who am I to spoil other people's squee?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: demency on 08 Feb 2015, 20:03
Squeee! They're so adorable together.  :claireface: The last three days of comics make me so incredibly happy.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: iandanger on 08 Feb 2015, 20:04
Glasses are, quite nifty enough, able to be removed AND put back on during whatever activity, thus allowing some degree of free movement, while also allowing you to see things (which for some people I hear is a turn on)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 20:06
Honesty, not feeling this strip. Wanna get back to Faye and see how she's doing. Or Dora... but I'm clearly in the minority so, who am I to spoil other people's squee?

I think those bits will probably start tomorrow, since today's strip was pretty much the coda to the previous night's activities.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 08 Feb 2015, 20:06
Why doesn't she just wear her contacts?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 08 Feb 2015, 20:08
Well, she does wear contacts from time to time, so the glasses thing might just be personal comfort.  But this was a big moment for both of them, maybe hastened by circumstances.  The *SQUEE* is there, as well as the obvious affection.  Even if they split before the strip ends, I think that they'll both emerge as stronger people.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 08 Feb 2015, 20:09
Claire's into some really kinky shit, man, like actually seeing her partner during sex. You're a wild woman, Red.

I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.

I am tempted to make a reference to sexually repressive cultures, but it's sure to be offensive and in poor taste....
Which is why I will make a reference about your penis chaffing instead.

Warning - while you were typing 3 new replies have been posted. You may wish to use more lube next time.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 20:10
Why doesn't she just wear her contacts?
I hear people like to fall asleep after sex. One may not necessarily remember to remove contacts first.
Title: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: iandanger on 08 Feb 2015, 20:11
Well, assuming you're the responsible "contacts out before bed" type, you may not want to wear them for an activity that you likely will want to pass our after, especially if you're at someone else's house and don't have any toiletries over.

Rawr, ninja'd, I wish tapatalk had the x replies since you started typing feature
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 08 Feb 2015, 20:16
Why doesn't she just wear her contacts?
I hear people like to fall asleep after sex. One may not necessarily remember to remove contacts first.
Some do.  Some like to snuggle and talk.  Some think it might be time to (hopefully mutually (more fun that way)) rinse off in the shower before going to sleep.  Some might like to have another go at it.  Attitudes and preferences differ from person to person.  Methinks that Claire was too busy focusing on what could actually go wrong than using proper vision enhancement.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 20:19
These aren't mutually exclusive options.

Another go -> rinse off -> cuddlesnuggletalk -> zzz

Just saying that remembering to take out the lenses might get lost in the mix.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Nyithra on 08 Feb 2015, 20:22
Honestly I still wanna know what happened to Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Feb 2015, 20:26
Marten forgot about him.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 08 Feb 2015, 20:31
Who puts chicken and waffles together? ... ... Canadians?

As already stated, a Southern US delicacy. I like both, but the combo doesn't quite work for me. Get to the chicken a bit earlier, though ... an egg, sunny side up, or basted or poached, over a waffle is a favorite cold-weather breakfast. And I believe my Texas kin know the delicious combination of sunny-side-up egg atop a couple of pancakes as a "One-eyed short stack."

Which reminds me: Pintsize is probably OK, aside from having eaten all the pancake batter.

Oh yeah: Claire and Marten: D'awwwww. You crazy kids.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 08 Feb 2015, 20:32
Prediction:  By mid week, Jeph will shift focus to other characters for a bit, so that the fans will be held in antici……pation for a while on the whole Clairiten arc.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 08 Feb 2015, 20:35
Why doesn't she just wear her contacts?
I hear people like to fall asleep after sex. One may not necessarily remember to remove contacts first.

It's not necessary to remove contacts when sleeping, as long as you're cleaning or replacing them on a regular schedule.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Orkboy on 08 Feb 2015, 20:35
Prediction:  By mid week, Jeph will shift focus to other characters for a bit, so that the fans will be held in antici……pation for a while on the whole Clairiten arc.

Alternatively, the sugary-sweet Clairten duo and the Faye-tastrophy interact as a means to create new situations and conversations the comic hasn't had before. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ZoeM on 08 Feb 2015, 20:39
I know *precisely* what's going through Claire's mind right now. (Although if it was truly 1-1 she would be shaking uncontrollably right about now... the rush of having finally, fully realized a lifelong dream'll do that to ya! Especially if you haven't really had a good (or any) experience up to that point...)

The whole arc has kinda reminded me of my life a year ago, and throughout Claire's always been practically a (albeit naturally red-haired) mirror for my own experience. It takes a special kind of author to so perfectly capture a subject so unfamiliar to them - so, bravo, Jeph. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Natswash on 08 Feb 2015, 20:46
On the Glasses during sex, they have an annoying propensity of falling of my face so I can get with removing them first.
Alternatively Claire could get the little bead glasses cord. She is angling to be a librarian after all
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 08 Feb 2015, 20:46
I hate to say it, but I know about fuck-all about trans* issues, save from what people have posted here, and one friend who transitioned right in front of my eyes.  But I know that especially for those of us prone to anxiety, that one's first *anything* is damned scary.  First kiss.  First lover.  First *real* (as in emotional attachment) partner.  The first time you live with someone else who isn't just someone who isn't family, or isn't just a flatmate.  Firsts are scary.  And in Friday's comic, I could see that in Claire's eyes.  Today's strip really shows them as vulnerable to each other, and demonstrating what happens when one can overcome that fear.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 20:47
Claire's into some really kinky shit, man, like actually seeing her partner during sex. You're a wild woman, Red.

I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.

I am tempted to make a reference to sexually repressive cultures, but it's sure to be offensive and in poor taste....
Which is why I will make a reference about your penis chaffing instead.


Is that not supposed to happen?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Brakkis on 08 Feb 2015, 20:55
Finally registered after reading this comic for years. I'm a procrastinator like that.

All just to say this - Sex with glasses is a terrible idea. They fall off, they get in the way, they fog up, etc. If that's kinky, I hereby declare I will never again be kinky. Contacts or go blind!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Feb 2015, 20:57
Welcome, sort of new person!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 20:59
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P

Welcome, welcome.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Feb 2015, 21:00
Are people who've never done the nasty with their glasses on considered vanilla?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 21:00
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Feb 2015, 21:00
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.
Mushroom Mushroom
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 08 Feb 2015, 21:02
Are people who've never done the nasty with their glasses on considered vanilla?

If I'm vanilla then that's a-ok with me.  Vanilla is my favorite ice cream, anyways.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 08 Feb 2015, 21:03
Are people who've never done the nasty with their glasses on considered vanilla?

If so, then I guess I'm doomed to a life of boredom, since I switched to contacts back in high school.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 21:03
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.

At least you're not on about hoses again.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 21:04
Which is unfortunate because I love being on hoses.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 08 Feb 2015, 21:08
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.
Mushroom Mushroom
Snake.  Oh no, it's a snake.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 08 Feb 2015, 21:10
Claire's into some really kinky shit, man, like actually seeing her partner during sex. You're a wild woman, Red.
I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.
I am tempted to make a reference to sexually repressive cultures, but it's sure to be offensive and in poor taste....
Which is why I will make a reference about your penis chaffing instead.
Is that not supposed to happen?

Only if you like pain... C&BT anyone?

Warning - while you were typing a new remix of Happiness in Slavery has been released. You may wish to update your NIN collection.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: badpun on 08 Feb 2015, 21:25
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.
Honey Badgers?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Feb 2015, 21:29
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.
Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 08 Feb 2015, 21:31
This art is much better. Looks like Jeph fixed the coloring in 2991, too — Marten's sheets no longer blend perfectly with the wall.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 08 Feb 2015, 21:32
There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.
Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!

Ha, UHF.  I'm so glad I was finally able to snag a copy of DVD.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jmucchiello on 08 Feb 2015, 21:33
If keeping your glasses on during sex is kinky, I'm gonna have to do some re-evaluating of my life
That's Marten calling something kinky. Given who his mother is, I suspect her was joking. (Or at minimum being ironic.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Feb 2015, 21:34
They porked.

Really?  Really?? 

This just... ugh. 

OK, they may have had sex, but what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 Feb 2015, 21:38
They porked.

Really?  Really?? 

This just... ugh. 

OK, they may have had sex, but what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less. 
The trick is to keep him distracted. Boobs seem to work well. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1135)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Feb 2015, 21:40
what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less.

How do you know? Were you in the room? For all we know, there actually could've been a badger, a kiddy pool full of Astroglide, and some Gonzo porn level acrobatics.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 08 Feb 2015, 21:41
Again with the badgers.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Feb 2015, 21:44
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/soccer-player-dancing-smiley-emoticon.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: de_la_Nae on 08 Feb 2015, 21:44
Oh 4chan /co/ threads~

What's really funny is when they copy our comments to their threads, then say things like 'this is why we're having fun and they're not'.

I mean because I rather thought we were having fun.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Feb 2015, 21:45
Again with the badgers.

Not again, never again, once was enou-.... OHHHHHH you mean forum comments. My bad.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Indicible on 08 Feb 2015, 21:47
Quote
I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.

Try a rubber catsuit, with a blindfold and a cockring and you will achieve a kinky version of what you just described.
I must admit I am with Pintsize on this: Rule 34 is the proof there is still hope for humanity. The day all the energy and imagination used in war making goes into love-making and sex-having, the world will be saved.

Quote
Warning - while you were typing 2 new social commentaries have been posted. You may wish to watch a Ken Loach film before reviewing your post.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 08 Feb 2015, 21:47
Again with the badgers.

It could be worse. It could be muskrats.

muskrat muskrat muskrat
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 08 Feb 2015, 21:50
Again with the badgers.

Not again, never again, once was enou-.... OHHHHHH you mean forum comments. My bad.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvcvYeaIUAAncS4.jpg:large)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 08 Feb 2015, 21:51
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: LocoJoe on 08 Feb 2015, 22:00
As a guy who has just recently gotten a pair of glasses, I can agree with the gentleman or lady who said that having sex with glasses on is a bad idea.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 22:03
They porked.

Really?  Really?? 

This just... ugh. 

OK, they may have had sex, but what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less.

I was purposefully toning it down. Like if I won the Superbowl and just said, "this is neat". It's understatement.

"Fine, it's okay I GUESSSSSSSS"  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 08 Feb 2015, 22:34
Yay for Marten and Claire! That's all I have to say right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DillyDolly on 08 Feb 2015, 22:41
Awwwwwww... They are so cute! But why—oh why—would she want to keep her specs on? Don't they get in the way of sexy moments? They are even invasive with simply snuggling! Plus she looks so beautiful without them. Don't get me wrong... I actually love glasses on people, but—dayam—those eyes!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Feb 2015, 22:42
They porked.

Really?  Really?? 

This just... ugh. 

OK, they may have had sex, but what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less.

I was purposefully toning it down. Like if I won the Superbowl and just said, "this is neat". It's understatement.

"Fine, it's okay I GUESSSSSSSS"  :-D

I wasn't commenting on your level of enthusiasm...

what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less.

How do you know? Were you in the room? For all we know, there actually could've been a badger, a kiddy pool full of Astroglide, and some Gonzo porn level acrobatics.

I don't know/care what was involved in the process.   It's the result that matters.  That's why it's called "making love". 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 08 Feb 2015, 22:48
Quote
I only have sex with the lights off, with my boxers on and through a hole in the sheet.

Try a rubber catsuit, with a blindfold and a cockring and you will achieve a kinky version of what you just described.
I must admit I am with Pintsize on this: Rule 34 is the proof there is still hope for humanity. The day all the energy and imagination used in war making goes into love-making and sex-having, the world will be saved.

Quote
Warning - while you were typing 2 new social commentaries have been posted. You may wish to watch a Ken Loach film before reviewing your post.
Why stop at the latex suit and blindfold?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 08 Feb 2015, 22:51
Awwwwwww... They are so cute! But why—oh why—would she want to keep her specs on? Don't they get in the way of sexy moments? They are even invasive with simply snuggling! Plus she looks so beautiful without them. Don't get me wrong... I actually love glasses on people, but—dayam—those eyes!

Maybe she has a "being a sexy librarian" trope based fetish. Or maybe she's never had sex with her glasses on because until recently she'd never had sex. So she wants to give it a try.

Remember Rule 34. The reason for that rule is that if you can think of it, there's someone in the world gets off on it. (And if you manage to invent something totally new, the act of sharing will create the fetish.) Sex in glasses might not be for everyone. But the only way for Claire to find out if it's for her is to try.

Then deal with the smudges.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Baphomet on 08 Feb 2015, 23:07
I don't know/care what was involved in the process.   It's the result that matters.  That's why it's called "making love".
People who love each other can still pork, or bang, or fool around, or bone, or whatever. I don't think either the intent or the obvious meaning of what you're responding to demeaned the act in any way worth getting offended over. I obviously can't speak for you, but to me the term "making love" just seems so formal, almost to the point of being creepy.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 08 Feb 2015, 23:12
They porked.

Really?  Really?? 

This just... ugh. 

OK, they may have had sex, but what Marten and Claire just did was make love



Nothing less.

I was purposefully toning it down. Like if I won the Superbowl and just said, "this is neat". It's understatement.

"Fine, it's okay I GUESSSSSSSS"  :-D

I wasn't commenting on your level of enthusiasm...

what Marten and Claire just did was make love

Nothing less.

How do you know? Were you in the room? For all we know, there actually could've been a badger, a kiddy pool full of Astroglide, and some Gonzo porn level acrobatics.

I don't know/care what was involved in the process.   It's the result that matters.  That's why it's called "making love".
People who love each other can still pork, or bang, or fool around, or bone, or whatever. I don't think either the intent or the obvious meaning of what you're responding to demeaned the act in any way worth getting offended over. I obviously can't speak for you, but to me the term "making love" just seems so formal, almost to the point of being creepy.

As long as the people on either end feel loved it doesn't matter if it's all scented candles and lovely music, or just a quickie.

Just my $.02 worth, mind you.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 08 Feb 2015, 23:14
One girlfriend was in the habit of offering "intercourse", speaking of exceptional formality. The important thing was to oblige her, not to think about terminology.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 Feb 2015, 23:21
As long as the people on either end feel loved it doesn't matter if it's all scented candles and lovely music, or just a quickie.

That was kind of my point.  It doesn't matter what was actually involved.  There's more there than the act(s), and that's what matters! 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 08 Feb 2015, 23:26
One girlfriend was in the habit of offering "intercourse", speaking of exceptional formality. The important thing was to oblige her, not to think about terminology.

The only appropriate answer to an offe of intercourse would be "Sure, let's bang!"  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Baphomet on 08 Feb 2015, 23:31
As long as the people on either end feel loved it doesn't matter if it's all scented candles and lovely music, or just a quickie.

That was kind of my point.  It doesn't matter what was actually involved.  There's more there than the act(s), and that's what matters!
Then you're exasperated that explicit's comment wasn't "look at the love that these two both share and how it has grown so that the act of intercourse between them is so loving and great and full of good emotions"?

We're back to needing to explain to you the intent of humorous understatement, which is where we started. I want to assume that there's a simple miscommunication here rather than anything malicious.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 08 Feb 2015, 23:39
We're back to needing to explain to you the intent of humorous understatement, which is where we started. I want to assume that there's a simple miscommunication here rather than anything malicious.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't not do this at this point:

Unfurl the black velvet alter cloth draw a white chalk Baphomet
Mistreat your alter boys long enough, and this is what you get!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 08 Feb 2015, 23:39
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I can't help but wonder where the term "porked" even originated. I know that personally the first thing that pops into my head when I think about sex is not pigs meat.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 08 Feb 2015, 23:42
This is just a guess but I think that Marten and Claire are in the 'euphoric and giggly afterglow' phase and Claire is being silly. That said, maybe she just wants to see Marten's face next time rather than a pinkish blur!

That aside, there is a teenage feel to this exchange that makes me think that Marten is new to emotional intimacy. Although he is sexually experienced, that was mostly physical with the added benefit of friendship. With Dora, maybe there was always a little reserve of uncertainty for them both. With Padma, they both seemed to think that it was a dumb-ass mistake from the start. Marten and Claire seem to have gone to a deeper level where they're seeking an emotional connection too (and seem to be succeeding in finding it).

Regarding Marten being tired,? Well, the artist is inspired by his subject. Strip 2891 established just how inspiring Marten finds this subject. Enough to give him a second wind, it seems!

FWIW, I think that this isn't setting the theme for this week but we'll have to see.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 08 Feb 2015, 23:48
As long as the people on either end feel loved it doesn't matter if it's all scented candles and lovely music, or just a quickie.

That was kind of my point.  It doesn't matter what was actually involved.  There's more there than the act(s), and that's what matters!
Then you're exasperated that explicit's comment wasn't "look at the love that these two both share and how it has grown so that the act of intercourse between them is so loving and great and full of good emotions"?

We're back to needing to explain to you the intent of humorous understatement, which is where we started. I want to assume that there's a simple miscommunication here rather than anything malicious.

I just don't use those words (making love sounds... strange to me). We seem to have a lot of arguments about semantics in these forums :D

But yes, my attempt at being funny was much bad, needs improve.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 08 Feb 2015, 23:50
One girlfriend was in the habit of offering "intercourse", speaking of exceptional formality. The important thing was to oblige her, not to think about terminology.

Wait. So every time you had relations she called it intercourse? I see how that could kill the desire  for some people to copulate.

Edit: word order make better
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Baphomet on 08 Feb 2015, 23:51
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't not do this at this point:

Unfurl the black velvet alter cloth draw a white chalk Baphomet
Mistreat your alter boys long enough, and this is what you get!

That's a lie. You say you couldn't have not done it, but you could've done naught instead. Even if you did not do naught, you could've not done it, but you did not, so you did.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 08 Feb 2015, 23:52
That's a lie. You say you couldn't have not done it, but you could've done naught instead. Even if you did not do naught, you could've not done it, but you did not, so you did.

Wait, so who's on first?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Natswash on 08 Feb 2015, 23:59
That's a lie. You say you couldn't have not done it, but you could've done naught instead. Even if you did not do naught, you could've not done it, but you did not, so you did.

Wait, so who's on first?
I don't know
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hakko504 on 09 Feb 2015, 00:02
That's a lie. You say you couldn't have not done it, but you could've done naught instead. Even if you did not do naught, you could've not done it, but you did not, so you did.

Wait, so who's on first?
I don't know
He's on third, but we're not talking about him.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 09 Feb 2015, 00:05
As long as the people on either end feel loved it doesn't matter if it's all scented candles and lovely music, or just a quickie.

That was kind of my point.  It doesn't matter what was actually involved.  There's more there than the act(s), and that's what matters!
Then you're exasperated that explicit's comment wasn't "look at the love that these two both share and how it has grown so that the act of intercourse between them is so loving and great and full of good emotions"?

We're back to needing to explain to you the intent of humorous understatement, which is where we started. I want to assume that there's a simple miscommunication here rather than anything malicious.

Well, of course there's nothing malicious, I just really hate the term "porked"!   :roll:

Seriously, though, I just kind of read Explicit's comment as - well, kind of dismissive.  I understood the attempt at understatement, but it really fell flat for me.  I just wanted to reframe the conversation into something a little more meaningful and closer to what the participants are actually experiencing. 


Which is, at least in my reading, more than just sex. 

All the "saccharine" dating was a buildup to this.  It showed us that these two weren't just hopping in the sack, there's a relationship being made, a connection.  It makes the evening's activities an act of love, not just two people bangin'. 

But to be honest, It probably wouldn't have bothered me as much if any other term had been used!   :-P

Warning - while you were typing, Explicit apologized.  You should tell him it's OK, and that you're just being a pompous ass about it. 

*sigh* 

Yeah, you're right.  My bad. 

No hard feelings? 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Feb 2015, 00:17
"Hey, baby, let's you and me engage in an act of afterglow generation!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ReindeerFlotilla on 09 Feb 2015, 00:19
Watch your language! There may be children present.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Feb 2015, 00:22
Just an additional point: Is it 'd'aaawww' or 'squeeeeee' today? I'm voting 'd'aaawww'.

As I've said before, I'm a romantic. :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 09 Feb 2015, 00:24
I think it's d'weeeaaang!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 09 Feb 2015, 00:25
Coming up with a portmanteau of squee and daww is surprisingly difficult. Perhaps it's time to invent a new word.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 09 Feb 2015, 00:26
Don't forget daaaaaang!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 09 Feb 2015, 00:38
"Squeee" feels more like anticipation, "D'aww" more like an afterglow kind of word.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 09 Feb 2015, 00:43

Warning - while you were typing, Explicit apologized.  You should tell him it's OK, and that you're just being a pompous ass about it. 

*sigh* 

Yeah, you're right.  My bad. 

No hard feelings?

I didn't exactly apologize (I will now though! sorry!), but I certainly didn't want to make you upset, I thought we were half joking. The ridiculousness of the word pork is well... ridiculous. I bet if I told a a girlfriend I would pork her she'd get pretty upset :D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: techkid on 09 Feb 2015, 00:55
It's about the same as "banging", really. If you love your partner with all your heart, romance them off their feet and all that, say something disgustingly beautiful that makes them swoon, and conclude with "So... let's start banging". It "kind of" (read: abso-fucking-lutely) devalues the whole experience.

No worries, though. I guess you were just trying to break through the squee barrier around the forums, hey?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 09 Feb 2015, 01:08
Explicit has no squees. Is a manly man, must make fun of cuteness before it overtakes him. Causes third person speaking.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: KevxD on 09 Feb 2015, 01:13
Claire really is inexperienced if she thinks sex with glasses is anything less than a pain in the ass  :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snubnose on 09 Feb 2015, 01:54
As somebody who needs stronger glasses I'm confused why Claire would want to keep them on. :?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 09 Feb 2015, 02:38
I read it as if she wants to play into the "hot librarian" fantasy trope, not that she's unable to see her partner without the glasses. If the latter was true, she could just use contacts, after all.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: geostar1024 on 09 Feb 2015, 02:43
As somebody who needs stronger glasses I'm confused why Claire would want to keep them on. :?

As a fellow glasses-wearer, this confused me as well until I realized I was taking a myopic view of the reasons for wearing glasses. If Claire is farsighted rather than nearsighted (I'm not sure it's ever mentioned either way), then she can't see much up close without her glasses, and so Marten would have been a blur all night.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Feb 2015, 02:53
I read it as if she wants to play into the "hot librarian" fantasy trope,

I'd be interested to see if, one day, Claire decides to give Marten a surprise birthday gift by dressing up in line with this fantasy. Naturally, Emily would ask Momo why so many guys and more than a few girls were walking into doors and losing their conversational track in the middle of sentences.  :wink: :-D

Just to expand, I'm convinced that Claire is one of those women who looks plain because, normally, she wants to look plain. If she put her mind to it, I suspect that she could make herself very, very attractive, even hot. She's never really had either the drive or the confidence to do it before. However, having had a guy tell her that she's beautiful whilst staring at her nude body? I think that this could radically change her body image and how she acts/dresses sometimes.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 09 Feb 2015, 03:04
I'd be interested to see if, one day, Claire decides to give Marten a surprise birthday gift by dressing up in line with this fantasy. Naturally, Emily would ask Momo why so many guys and more than a few girls were walking into doors and losing their conversational track in the middle of sentences.  :wink: :-D

Whilst the penultimate Best Case Scenario seems to be: "TAKE ME IN THE STACKS" I fear you overlook Marten's past far too easily.

Marten turns very, very pale, then slightly green. Claire: "Not... not your thing?" Marten: "You got that outfit from my Mum's line."
 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: osaka on 09 Feb 2015, 03:25
NEXT UP: Pintsize wakes up, acknowledges the new info, contacts Station, fetches a holo brown chicken and a holo brown cow. Is thrown to the wall again.
[/not completely serious]

I also thought that she was talking about the sexy librarian thing with the glasses. And I like the probability of MrNumbers' scenario, and just how hilarious it'd be.

(FAYE, somewhere in the background: "You should have checked the store before red")
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 09 Feb 2015, 03:59
Chicken....waffles.

Ho Kay.

Still, one of my favourite dishes is pork trotter and jellyfish. I took some convincing to try that too.

Meanwhile, my new sqeeometer with logarithmic scale up to 25 petasquee lasted less than a millisecond before overloading. Dang.

I can't decide which expressions are cuter - Martens or Claire's.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: maxh on 09 Feb 2015, 04:23
myopic view of the reasons for wearing glasses
:clairedoge:
Yeah, okay, you're sitting in the punishment box for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: anahata on 09 Feb 2015, 04:26
This is just a guess but I think that Marten and Claire are in the 'euphoric and giggly afterglow' phase and Claire is being silly.
While that's very plausible...

Quote
That said, maybe she just wants to see Marten's face next time rather than a pinkish blur!
...was actually my rather pedestrian first thought.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DrBear on 09 Feb 2015, 04:49
Note to Claire: NO GLASSES!

One of the first times my wife and I were together, I was wearing glasses, they fell off and she rolled over on them and broke them.

If you're going to try that, at least have a spare pair ready.

ps - squee
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 09 Feb 2015, 04:50
Yeah, I'm a virgin, and I can't think glasses are a good idea during sex.

Then again, I don't actually need my glasses to see, just to avoid eye strain in my right eye. (My left eye is 20/15 or so.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 09 Feb 2015, 04:53
Nah, the Daaaaaang will come later, when they show up some place together all glowing, then do the double booty dance.

Chicken and waffles is really a good combination. And not that far afield of a fried chicken sandwich, or a waffle with a side of some other order of meat. Normally here in the South the chicken is eaten with hot sauce so the spicy/sweet makes a nice counterpoint.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 09 Feb 2015, 04:57
It's about the same as "banging", really. If you love your partner with all your heart, romance them off their feet and all that, say something disgustingly beautiful that makes them swoon, and conclude with "So... let's start banging". It "kind of" (read: abso-fucking-lutely) devalues the whole experience.


Depends on your partner's sense of humor.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 09 Feb 2015, 05:02
A Pennsylvania Dutch variety of chicken and waffles is more like an open-faced chicken sandwich, only using waffles instead of bread.  Despite being close to the heart of PA Dutch country, I do not like it. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 09 Feb 2015, 05:07
Having grown up in Pennsylvania Dutch country and living in Georgia now... I prefer the Southern variety. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 09 Feb 2015, 05:24
I read it as if she wants to play into the "hot librarian" fantasy trope, not that she's unable to see her partner without the glasses. If the latter was true, she could just use contacts, after all.

Yes, glasses are essential to the "hot librarian" trope. And if you've never seen a really hot woman wearing nothing but glasses... daaaaang.  (Well, or a man, I suppose, but that's not what I'm into personally.) And if they get in the way, they can be removed quickly and easily.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: dexeron on 09 Feb 2015, 05:47
Counterpoint: one time I took my glasses off, set them on the floor (because that's where we were) and later when I stood up, being quasi-blind and all, I stepped on them.  CRACK.  It's a problem when your vision's so bad that you literally cannot drive (or really see anything in detail more then about a foot away from your face) and your only pair of glasses is destroyed.  (Driving to the glasses store was a real adventure, involving crazy glue that only worked about half of the drive, and then having to manually hold the glasses in together/in place with one hand and steer with the other until I could pull over and let my gf drive the rest of the way.  Having to wait a week for another pair to be ready REALLY sucked.)

I did learn my lesson, and always have a back-up pair now, which came in handy later when I went to the beach and forgot to take my glasses off, got hit in the face with a wave and my glasses went... on an tropical adventure somewhere!

Since then I'm a little paranoid about them getting broken/lost, since I'm so completely useless without them.  I tend to leave them on now, unless I have a very secure and safe place to place them where I can be sure they're not going to be knocked to the floor or otherwise destroyed.  Glasses are expensive, yo.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 09 Feb 2015, 05:55
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I can't help but wonder where the term "porked" even originated. I know that personally the first thing that pops into my head when I think about sex is not pigs meat.

Short for "skewered by the pork sword"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 09 Feb 2015, 05:55
Counterpoint: one time I took my glasses off, set them on the floor (because that's where we were) and later when I stood up, being quasi-blind and all, I stepped on them.  CRACK.  It's a problem when your vision's so bad that you literally cannot drive (or really see anything in detail more then about a foot away from your face) and your only pair of glasses is destroyed.  (Driving to the glasses store was a real adventure, involving crazy glue that only worked about half of the drive, and then having to manually hold the glasses in together/in place with one hand and steer with the other until I could pull over and let my gf drive the rest of the way.  Having to wait a week for another pair to be ready REALLY sucked.)

I did learn my lesson, and always have a back-up pair now, which came in handy later when I went to the beach and forgot to take my glasses off, got hit in the face with a wave and my glasses went... on an tropical adventure somewhere!

Since then I'm a little paranoid about them getting broken/lost, since I'm so completely useless without them.  I tend to leave them on now, unless I have a very secure and safe place to place them where I can be sure they're not going to be knocked to the floor or otherwise destroyed.  Glasses are expensive, yo.

Yes.  Yes they are.  Reminds me of the time I got new glasses two years ago.  I was super excited because my old pair (and the pair I'm using now) were starting to get a bit dated.  I got the lenses tinted light blue, they had clear eye parts and thick, plastic black legs.  They looked awesome.  In the summer of that year I took my daughter to Six Flags Maryland.  We spent a lot of time in the water area because it was July and hot as hell out.  Anyways, I'm coming down one of the water slides there and the moment I hit the pool at the bottom I flipped out of the inner tube and my arm catches my glasses and flings them clear off of my face.  I watched them sink right to the bottom and of course they didn't let me dive under to get them.  I had to drive home from there with no glasses at all, at night, and in the rain.  That was an adventure, let me tell you.

On topic...sorta.  To me, glasses on someone exudes an air of intelligence (even if they aren't) and to me that is one of the biggest turn ons.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 09 Feb 2015, 05:59
Glasses on during sex is a one way ticket to face grease all over them, which makes it harder for me to see than actually taking them off.

In short: nah.

...Except when I've done it by accident due to the heat of the moment.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 09 Feb 2015, 06:28
No. Glasses. Yes, I wanna see my sexpartner, but that doesn't help if they get all smudged and.. smudged. (Also, what I learned: always know where to put your glasses, and that place is never on the floor... yes, I learned the hard way ;)
Also: Please, let's get the story on with Faye, or Dora/Sven, or Pintsize, or Hannelore, or CoD employee fallout...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Feb 2015, 06:36
Also: Please, let's get the story on with Faye, or Dora/Sven, or Pintsize, or Hannelore, or CoD employee fallout...

PANEL 1: FAYE and HANNELORE are entering Coffee of Doom
HANNELORE: "Do you think it's wise to come back so soon?"
FAYE: "Hanners! I got fired! That's hardly something that will leave me with permanent emotional scarring or something! "
PANEL 2: FAYE coming through the door, seen from the inside.
FAYE: "Besides, all I want to do is pick up... my... welding... stuff...?"
SINGING VOICES: "Ding-dong, the witch is dead! Which old witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding-dong the Wicked Witch is dead!"
PANEL 3: Frozen tableau of DALE, COSSETTE, PENNY and several CUSTOMERS wearing party hats and in a conga line. The shop is decorated with streamers and banners.
PANEL 4: DALE is hurriedly stuffing his hat into his pocket
DALE: "Uh... Faye! Great to see you up and around! What's goin' down?"
FAYE (red in the face and shouting): "YOUR ESTIMATED LIFESPAN YOU WORM!"

[edit]
It all turns out to be a horrendous misunderstanding, of ocurse; Dora would never have permitted something like that aimed at Faye. However, the intervening strips are the ones in which things get... interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: iandanger on 09 Feb 2015, 07:04
It is totally fine if words like banging or porking don't do it for you, but it doesn't necessarily bother everyone. I know personally I don't treat sex any more seriously than anything else I do often, and crack jokes and use vulgar terminology because the inappropriateness is amusing, and sex should be fun/funny.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 09 Feb 2015, 07:19
(http://2damnfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/The-Simpsons-Grandpa-Shocked-Bart-Works-At-Brothel.gif)




I'll be back later......much, much later.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 09 Feb 2015, 07:34
Round 2.

'Oh....you're even scrawnier than I thought'

'I...I should probably go.'
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 09 Feb 2015, 07:35

There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.

What's kinky about that? My wife does that all the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 09 Feb 2015, 07:45
An obvious thing to do would be to have Faye to come home from doing something to find Marten playing his 8-string (loudly) in the lounge, his eyes closed as he's in that deep spiritual place that guitarists are supposed to go into when composing. After getting him to shut up so she can talk, Faye finds out that this is an instrumental interpretation of his and Claire's first time together. Faye is about to mock when she looks at Marten's expression and comes to a realisation: "Wow. You two are serious, aren't you?"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: eschaton on 09 Feb 2015, 07:45
I don't think glasses really get in the way of sex.  They do, however, really get in the way of foreplay makeouts and cuddles afterward, considering how uncomfortable it is to lay on your side while wearing them. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 09 Feb 2015, 08:06
That aside, there is a teenage feel to this exchange that makes me think that Marten is new to emotional intimacy. Although he is sexually experienced, that was mostly physical with the added benefit of friendship.
New Relationship Energy can make anyone feel young again. Marten and Dora were totally head over heals (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1282) when their relationship was new, and he's described the first months (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253) of his relationship with Vicky in glowing terms.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 09 Feb 2015, 08:25

There's more than one way to be kinky. Just sayin'. :P


Badgers.

What's kinky about that? My wife does that all the time.

To the corner with you.

Also: Please, let's get the story on with Faye, or Dora/Sven, or Pintsize, or Hannelore, or CoD employee fallout...

I hadn't even thought about the CoD employee/customer fallout. I don't know if it'd be as over-the-top as Ben's scenario, but that's going to be interesting either way. I don't think Faye's going to end up back there as an employee. But I could see a scenario where Dora defending Faye to her employees A: reinforces why she fired her in the first place, but also B: makes her realize that she doesn't like the way things are left... which could, in turn, lead to the two of them having a much-needed conversation.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hakko504 on 10 Feb 2015, 00:14
Yeah! Forum is back up. And a new Comic. Good on you Faye. Maybe not what you want to do, but it sure is what you should do.

BTW, also, if you haven't read Jeph's comment from yesterday on his blog, go read it now. http://jephjacques.com/
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Feb 2015, 00:14
Good job, Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zalder on 10 Feb 2015, 00:21
High fives for Faye.  That wasn't easy.   I hope these are the first steps on a journey towards good things.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Feb 2015, 00:22
Go Faye! Fight those temptations! Just don't fight the Temptations - they're a bit too old for that now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 10 Feb 2015, 00:24
I legitimately freaked a little bit when I saw the bottle in panel 4 before I noticed panel 6.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: KevxD on 10 Feb 2015, 00:29
Interesting that she didn't tell Marten in the hospital about that one. Maybe she wanted to prove she could do it herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 10 Feb 2015, 00:34
Interesting that she didn't tell Marten in the hospital about that one. Maybe she wanted to prove she could do it herself.

That seems possible. Its also possible that at that time, she wasn't quite ready to commit 100% to quitting. It definitely seemed like there was a moment of hesitation in panel 5, at the very least.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 10 Feb 2015, 00:54
Indeed

I think that this is a good sign on her part.

It's gonna be interesting in the morning though when she runs into Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 10 Feb 2015, 00:57
Good on you, Faye! Now, if there's any others hanging around the apartment, you should follow up and dump those as well.

And then sleep in because you can.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Feb 2015, 01:02
Go Faye! Fight those temptations! Just don't fight the Temptations - they're a bit too old for that now.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: KevxD on 10 Feb 2015, 01:13

That seems possible. Its also possible that at that time, she wasn't quite ready to commit 100% to quitting. It definitely seemed like there was a moment of hesitation in panel 5, at the very least.
Yeah that seems likely actually, at least she's doing the right thing now though.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Doc on 10 Feb 2015, 01:42
What brand is on the label of the whiskey bottle in the 6th panel?
Something like Uncle Wilbur?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 10 Feb 2015, 02:01
It's nice to see Faye remove the booze out of her own accord... I don't know why she has to throw it away and not, I don't know, give it to somebody who might like it (all of her friends drink enough... well except for Penelope, and it's hard to say if she's a friend of Faye's) but it makes for a dramatic scene, especially since it seems that she was tempted, but decided not to. Good for her.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 10 Feb 2015, 02:04
It's symbolic. The point is that she has to get rid of it, not just gift it to someone.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Feb 2015, 02:05
And it gets rid of the temptation RIGHT NOW, so she won't have to think about drinking it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 02:09
That was one of the most emotionally-charged strips I've ever seen! When you look at Faye's obvious intent to sneak and do things without Marten's knowledge in panels 1 and 3, her clear conflict in panel 5 and her muttered curses in Panel 6, you realise just how bad Faye has it right now.

All those little voices in her head (panels 1-4): "Go on!" "One mouthful won't hurt!" "It'll help you sleep whilst those two are making out next door!" "You know you want it!" This conflicting with other voices reminding her of her bender and how close she came to serious harm only yesterday. Thinking of Marten begging her never to do that again. Thinking of her own horror at what she has done to herself.

Then, fighting against her own inclinations every step of the way, she pours the liquor down the sink. As she does so, those little voices screaming at her: "No! You IDIOT! You NEED that to live!"

Faye Whitaker is an alcoholic but, I think, she didn't realise it before this moment.

I strongly suspect that Marten and Claire will come into the kitchen tomorrow morning to find Faye curled up at the base of the sink, crying hysterically because she's addicted to alcohol and she never knew it before. It will be news to Marten too, IMO. I don't think he's ever thought of her as an alcoholic, just as a heavy drinker who let it get away from her that one time.

Powerful bit of writing and brilliant bit of sequential art from Jeph. Well done!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Wildroses on 10 Feb 2015, 02:22
I seem to remember, back when Faye was staying at Hannelore's while Marten got rid of all the booze in the house, reading someone saying Faye was way too calm and cooperative so she had to have a hidden one stashed away somewhere. That person can give themselves a round of applause.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 02:28
Over on the Subreddit, one poster suggested that Faye and Claire may bond around the subject of how to deal with personal self-esteem issues. Ultimately, they're both struggling with their personal feelings of self-worth and whether they can ever get better. It's a perspective that Claire would have that Marten, for all his kindness and his love for his 'sister', simply couldn't offer.

Having a friend who understands on a personal level is a great aid to confronting these sort of issues.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 10 Feb 2015, 02:37
I strongly suspect that Marten and Claire will come into the kitchen tomorrow morning to find Faye curled up at the base of the sink, crying hysterically because she's addicted to alcohol and she never knew it before. It will be news to Marten too, IMO. I don't think he's ever thought of her as an alcoholic, just as a heavy drinker who let it get away from her that one time.

Or curled up at the base of the sink, crying hysterically, next to an empty bottle? Misunderstanding time!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 10 Feb 2015, 02:59
That would be a bit much. She's prone to drama, but she's not so completely out of her  mind that she can't go to bed..
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 03:17
Okay, I've looked at this strip on two different devices on two different IP addresses and it's in both, so it can't be me. Look just at the hem of Faye's vest over her right breast in Panels 1, 4 & 5 - Can anyone see a curving line running up across her skin? Does she have a tattoo there that I haven't noticed before?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Feb 2015, 03:22
That's the scar from her car accident.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Uniquitous on 10 Feb 2015, 03:57
There's a big difference between throwing away your "last" empty, and throwing away the actual substance with which you have a problem. This speaks very well for Faye's chances.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Akima on 10 Feb 2015, 04:35
Jeph told that with not one word more than necessary.

Go Faye! The booze goes down the drain, so that your life doesn't.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: gopher on 10 Feb 2015, 04:50
Also says to me that Faye was further down the rabbit whole than I thought.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Isyrion on 10 Feb 2015, 05:05
Hmmm this bodes well for Faye's future.  However I wonder if there is more stashed away somewhere in the house.  Not shiting on Faye here but this strip really confirms her as an alcoholic  or Damn close to one, and she is the type to have more than one bottle laying around.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Feb 2015, 05:05
Good on Faye, that took guts.  My prediction for the rest of the week:

WEDNESDAY
Faye dumps several more bottles she "forgot" to tell Marten about down the sink.  She finishes, looking exhausted, and starts to head back to bed--before noticing Pintsize crumpled in the corner where he was last left.

THURSDAY
Faye powers Pintsize back up.  He immediately starts swearing at her for shutting him off, she apologizes profusely and explains her situation. 
FAYE: Look, I promise, as soon as I'm back on my feet, I'll get you a new chassis that can't be shut down so easily.  You deserve that, at least.
PINTSIZE: Can I have thumbs, too?
FAYE: Don't push it.
PINTSIZE: So, where you gonna get the money?
Faye looks thoughtful, then....

FRIDAY
Faye knocking frantically on someone's front door.  Dora opens it, looking startled.
DORA: Faye?  What the hell, it's 3 AM!
FAYE: I'm not asking for my job back.
DORA: I wasn't going to--
FAYE: But I need my welding space.
DORA: Faye...
FAYE: I know, I know, I fucked up.  I pushed Angus away, I betrayed your trust, I don't have a job anymore, I don't know how I'm going to make things up to Marten yet.  This is all I have left.  I need an outlet!  It's either that, or the booze, or--or your brother--
She stops, looking defeated.  Dora surveys her for a moment, then gives her a hug.

Bonus panel:
TAI (from bedroom): ARE YOU GONNA INVITE HER IN FOR A THREESOME, OR WHAT?

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You'd better make sure BenRG didn't beat you to the punch with his own post.  Gosh, wouldn't that be embarrassing?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Feb 2015, 05:09
That gives me a bad taste in my mouth, the "let me weld or I'll go back to the bottle or Sven" part.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Feb 2015, 05:22
Hmmm this bodes well for Faye's future.  However I wonder if there is more stashed away somewhere in the house.  Not shiting on Faye here but this strip really confirms her as an alcoholic  or Damn close to one, and she is the type to have more than one bottle laying around.

I don't think so, or if she does, she's about to dig them out and send them the same way.  This is an act of strength and fear, and any thing less than completion obviates it completely. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bartman on 10 Feb 2015, 06:23
Hmmm this bodes well for Faye's future.  However I wonder if there is more stashed away somewhere in the house.  Not shiting on Faye here but this strip really confirms her as an alcoholic  or Damn close to one, and she is the type to have more than one bottle laying around.

I don't think so, or if she does, she's about to dig them out and send them the same way.  This is an act of strength and fear, and any thing less than completion obviates it completely.

Might be interesting to see if she does a whole batch. I... recently... flushed a whole cache of booze down the sink myself. Even after giving away the good, unopened stuff, I still had a heck of a lot and the stench of all those different drinks being poured down the sink was surprisingly strong and pervasive.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 10 Feb 2015, 06:25
Go, Faye! Love the progression of facial expressions from panel to panel. Beautiful visual storytelling.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Euthemes on 10 Feb 2015, 06:53
It is a good start. A lot more similar small acts of self-discipline are necessary if Faye is to get rid of her addiction.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: gprimr1 on 10 Feb 2015, 06:54
Very pleased with seeing Faye sticking to her guns. I really expected to see her drink that.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bartman on 10 Feb 2015, 07:11
Very pleased with seeing Faye sticking to her guns. I really expected to see her drink that.

Yes, and its a step she took herself instead of having someone do it for her. Help is fine and all but sometimes you need to do something for yourself to prove to yourself that you can.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ASB84 on 10 Feb 2015, 07:21
Good for Faye. Good for the story, too; it remains appropriately heavy because she's obviously struggling and  hasn't been magically cured, but there's hope and promise in her resolve.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 10 Feb 2015, 07:28
That first step is always the most difficult.  It's not going to be an easy journey but each step after the first is slightly easier than the last. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 10 Feb 2015, 07:36
listens "what was that, people who were insisting that Faye's drinking wasn't alcoholism? You've changed your mind?!"

I like that this arc portrays alcoholism in a slightly different light. People are taught to look for specific signs of alcoholism in movies and tv, and honestly those signs are not always how alcoholism presents itself.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Halloween Jack on 10 Feb 2015, 07:45
It's nice to see Faye remove the booze out of her own accord... I don't know why she has to throw it away and not, I don't know, give it to somebody who might like it (all of her friends drink enough... well except for Penelope, and it's hard to say if she's a friend of Faye's) but it makes for a dramatic scene, especially since it seems that she was tempted, but decided not to. Good for her.

From experience, the thought that "well, maybe I should just give this to one of my still-drinking friends" very, very easily slides into "but they didn't pay for it and they'll be able to drink the rest of their lives" to "do I really want my last drink ever to have been during that epic blackout? It's just a pint..." I think that Faye got up in the middle of the night because she could hear that pint talking to her. Believe me, it is the sweetest, most reasonable and seductive voice in the universe.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: 314159 on 10 Feb 2015, 07:52
It's nice to see Faye remove the booze out of her own accord... I don't know why she has to throw it away and not, I don't know, give it to somebody who might like it (all of her friends drink enough... well except for Penelope, and it's hard to say if she's a friend of Faye's) but it makes for a dramatic scene, especially since it seems that she was tempted, but decided not to. Good for her.

From experience, the thought that "well, maybe I should just give this to one of my still-drinking friends" very, very easily slides into "but they didn't pay for it and they'll be able to drink the rest of their lives" to "do I really want my last drink ever to have been during that epic blackout? It's just a pint..." I think that Faye got up in the middle of the night because she could hear that pint talking to her. Believe me, it is the sweetest, most reasonable and seductive voice in the universe.

Exactly. When you have an addiction, and there's something like that around, every second is another second you could slip. If you were dealing with any of it rationally, you wouldn't have the addiction at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Leveton on 10 Feb 2015, 08:03
He's on third, but we're not talking about him.

Who aren't we talking about?

Also, I could have used another panel of Faye holding the bottle, either deciding or gathering the willpower, etc.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 Feb 2015, 08:04
Talking about Who, we are.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 10 Feb 2015, 08:12
Talking about Who, we are.
I don't see what The Doctor has to do with any of this.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 10 Feb 2015, 08:20
That aside, there is a teenage feel to this exchange that makes me think that Marten is new to emotional intimacy. Although he is sexually experienced, that was mostly physical with the added benefit of friendship.
New Relationship Energy can make anyone feel young again. Marten and Dora were totally head over heals (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1282) when their relationship was new, and he's described the first months (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253) of his relationship with Vicky in glowing terms.
I'm always amazed at how quickly people edit the past to declare things like "Marten was never in love with Dora, see how he acts with Claire" (I think this was in another thread), while ignoring that they absolutely had similar chemistry near the beginning of them dating.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Welu on 10 Feb 2015, 09:20
I'm a bit late but I've never found glasses to get in the way during sex, they've never fallen off or fogged. They might get smudged with all the body parts flying about but it's still better with them because my vision is so bad I can't see my partner without them. Plus I know my partner likes the look of them, especially looking over the glasses while making eye contact.

On today's comic, I'm really proud of Faye.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: downtowneddie on 10 Feb 2015, 09:37
I think we'll stick with the Faye story arc for a bit. Here's why: Last week, 560839694184103936[/tweet]]Jeph tweeted[/url], "[This story is] coming from a personal place, yes, but I finally have the distance necessary to write about it." There is something emotionally cathartic about writing about things that have happened in the past and this might be Jeph's way to achieve peace (for lack of a better word, sorry) with what happened to him a couple years ago.

(If this has been brought up in previous WCDTs, sorry; with the flurry of new posts, it's been difficult to track what has been opined!)

With apologies for quoting myself from last week's WCDT, I believe that Faye's story is a retelling of Jeph's own experiences from a couple years ago. The commentary below the comic on this one is, simply, "been there, done that." Is this Jeph's way of achieving closure with that? Possibly...

The beauty of Q.C.'s storytelling as of late is that not one word more than necessary has been used. Thank you, Jeph. (http://[tweet)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Feb 2015, 09:51
Good on Faye, that took guts.  My prediction for the rest of the week:
WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY
FRIDAY
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My prediction for Wednesday:
Faye sees Claire walk into the apartment's bathroom wearing a bedsheet (and obviously naked underneath).
Faye says something along the lines of "Woohoo!Little duck (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2796) got some! Way to go!"
But Faye being Faye it comes out snarky, Claire get so embarrassed, she then blushes SO hard that her whole body turns red.
And redder, and redder, even more red, and then so red that she shifts into the infrared, and disappears!
Thus starting the superhero arc of Pizza Girl, VespaVenger, and The Invisible Librarian (a.k.a. The Dewey Decimator!)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SJCrew on 10 Feb 2015, 09:55
I have not seen a fairy tale romance such as Claire and Marten's in sometime. It gives me hope for love again. <3
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 10 Feb 2015, 10:05
I strongly suspect that Marten and Claire will come into the kitchen tomorrow morning to find Faye curled up at the base of the sink, crying hysterically because she's addicted to alcohol and she never knew it before. It will be news to Marten too, IMO. I don't think he's ever thought of her as an alcoholic, just as a heavy drinker who let it get away from her that one time.

Wasn't there a strip a while back (I can't remember the number) where Marten referred to Faye as an alcoholic off-hand and caused a bunch of drama (Faye getting all upset, Dora being mad at him etc.)? I guess I might be remembering wrong.

EDIT: It was way back in http://www.questionablecontent.net/980 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/980)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 10 Feb 2015, 10:08
I strongly suspect that Marten and Claire will come into the kitchen tomorrow morning to find Faye curled up at the base of the sink, crying hysterically because she's addicted to alcohol and she never knew it before. It will be news to Marten too, IMO. I don't think he's ever thought of her as an alcoholic, just as a heavy drinker who let it get away from her that one time.

Wasn't there a strip a while back (I can't remember the number) where Marten referred to Faye as an alcoholic off-hand and caused a bunch of drama (Faye getting all upset, Dora being mad at him etc.)? I guess I might be remembering wrong.

There definitely was one with that happening.  I'm not well-versed in archive-fu but I do recall a strip where that happened.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 10 Feb 2015, 10:15
It is a good start. A lot more similar small acts of self-discipline are necessary if Faye is to get rid of her addiction.

You never get rid of it. You just learn not to feed it. But addiction's a vampire. Even if you starve the bastard for years it's still alive and just waiting for you to open the crypt so it can get its teeth into your throat  and suck the life out of you again.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 10 Feb 2015, 10:49
Leo's talk about being an alcoholic on the West Wing.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 10 Feb 2015, 11:35
Ah, forums back up. I thought the squeexplosion from Monday would have taken it out for good.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 10 Feb 2015, 11:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8ynIDYyG4

That's what squeeing is to me :D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 10 Feb 2015, 12:04
Ah, forums back up. I thought the squeexplosion from Monday would have taken it out for good.

It wasn't a squeexplosion, it was a squeepocalypse. It destroyed the old universe, and now a new world has risen from the ashes. A world ruled by the squee.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 10 Feb 2015, 12:07
Kneel before Squod.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Estron on 10 Feb 2015, 12:37
I read it as if she wants to play into the "hot librarian" fantasy trope, not that she's unable to see her partner without the glasses. If the latter was true, she could just use contacts, after all.

I have to admit, I thought of Jeph's friend Dave Willis's "So -- mask or no mask?"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 10 Feb 2015, 13:11
Kneel before Squod.

Shouldn't that be Squeel before Squod.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesariojpn on 10 Feb 2015, 13:35
Talking about Who, we are.

But whats on second. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 10 Feb 2015, 14:34
THIRD BASE!!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Feb 2015, 14:43
That aside, there is a teenage feel to this exchange that makes me think that Marten is new to emotional intimacy. Although he is sexually experienced, that was mostly physical with the added benefit of friendship.
New Relationship Energy can make anyone feel young again. Marten and Dora were totally head over heals (http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1282) when their relationship was new, and he's described the first months (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=253) of his relationship with Vicky in glowing terms.
I'm always amazed at how quickly people edit the past to declare things like "Marten was never in love with Dora, see how he acts with Claire" (I think this was in another thread), while ignoring that they absolutely had similar chemistry near the beginning of them dating.

I think the new page layout Jeph uses contributes to this a bit.  While we got to see Marten and Dora being intimate with each other on various occasions, the old layout zoomed out a little, so we had some distance between us and the characters.  Now the new page style gives Jeph an opportunity to get super close with everyone, so a kiss between Marten and Claire looks a hell of a lot more intimate than any that occurred between Marten and Dora.  I doubt Monday's strip would have worked nearly as well if Jeph was still using the old vertical layout.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Feb 2015, 15:11
That gives me a bad taste in my mouth, the "let me weld or I'll go back to the bottle or Sven" part.

Yeah, I shouldn't have worded it that way.  I just meant that she's going need to find somewhere to channel her energy/frustration/hurt that isn't the bottle, and her art is one solution.  She's got a tough road ahead.

And I do hope she makes things up to Pintsize.  He hasn't been too concerned about the issue of AI civil rights, but I imagine this forced shutdown (if Faye did it to keep him from stopping her) might just make him reconsider his stance and maybe demand a chassis with more autonomy.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 10 Feb 2015, 15:18
I have not seen a fairy tale romance such as Claire and Marten's in sometime. It gives me hope for love again. <3

Sadly Asuka (your avi, for those who don't know) can only dream of such a romance, whether with Kaji (some hope!) or Shinji.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 10 Feb 2015, 15:23
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Faye and Sven reconcile, possibly date. I feel like they've each gone through a significant amount of character growth that they might be able to meet on more equal and respectful terms. I thought they worked well as platonic friends, and I don't think they would be a bad couple. But I think that arc would be a slow burn, as opposed to a sudden development.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 10 Feb 2015, 15:26
Has Sven really gone through a lot of development though? The last time we saw him he was with Steve right? And he was being all very unself-aware? So he can admit that he loves Faye and doesn't want sexy times anymore, but what else?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 10 Feb 2015, 15:30
Well, he now has a good idea of whether he can be monogomous. And he knows that he does care for Faye, but he does still have a ways to go.

Idk, I just read Sven differently than most people seem to. I thought he was good for Faye, particularly from a friendship standpoint, but they also had good chemistry and got along until he shacked up with riversmith.

I mean, Faye isn't exactly that far along in term of character development herself.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: emilygrrl on 10 Feb 2015, 16:06
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Faye and Sven reconcile, possibly date. I feel like they've each gone through a significant amount of character growth that they might be able to meet on more equal and respectful terms. I thought they worked well as platonic friends, and I don't think they would be a bad couple. But I think that arc would be a slow burn, as opposed to a sudden development.

NO!!! Oh, no, no, no, no, no....

Maybe down the road. But Faye's newly sober, she really needs to be focused on that right now. Once she's got some good time on her, then Sven might be a possibility. Although Sven still has some growth to do first, too. Which, conveniently enough, he should have enough time for if Faye waits until she's been sober a while.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 10 Feb 2015, 16:15
To be honest, Sven is one of the most selfish character in the comic right now, even if he doesn't quite realise it. The guy really needs to level up his empathy and thinking about other people before he should enter into a relationship. (Even Dora has said that Sven probably loathes himself and the utter lack of depth to most of his relationships probably amounts to him having the emotional depth of a kiddie's pool).

Even a few months down the line, Faye and Sven could be nitro on a rocky road levels of bad. Right now Faye needs to get herself back on her feet and into a better place emotionally. And Sven needs to do some growing up.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 10 Feb 2015, 16:15
Of course, by saying that, Sven will appear in the comic by week's end.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 10 Feb 2015, 16:20
Of course, by saying that, Sven will appear in the comic by week's end.
Oh yeah, definitely. After all, Faye and Dora don't have nearly enough hassle in their lives right now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 10 Feb 2015, 17:17
I have not seen a fairy tale romance such as Claire and Marten's in sometime. It gives me hope for love again. <3

Sadly Asuka (your avi, for those who don't know) can only dream of such a romance, whether with Kaji (some hope!) or Shinji.
Dude, Asuka/Rei.  Kaji would be good as well, but Shinji is just such an annoying whinging brat.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 10 Feb 2015, 17:46
Meanwhile - well played, Faye. Doing it for you, not because anyone's looking. Maybe I'm an optimist, and there's plenty of scope for things to go badly pear-shaped... but a good start. Couldn't be a better one, in fact.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 10 Feb 2015, 17:49
Dude, Asuka/Rei.  Kaji would be good as well, but Shinji is just such an annoying whinging brat.

Seems pretty unfair to single Shinji out. That whole series is about turning the screws on teenagers and then watching them break. Why is Asuka's violence and subsequent catatonia or Rei's dissociation from friends and social ties more praiseworthy than Shinji's honest and desperate cry for rescue? And isn't the fact that unlike the other two, Shinji had no military training (and is obviously totally unsuited to it) an extenuating circumstance?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 10 Feb 2015, 17:52
As a guess, because he's not a cute girl, and his constant whining gets on the watcher's nerves since he's the one seen most often.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 10 Feb 2015, 17:54
As a guess, because he's not a cute girl

AS FAR AS WE KNOW (http://ritsumaya.tumblr.com/post/89872971372/eva-analysis-shinji-ikari-as-transgender)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 10 Feb 2015, 18:11
Dude, Asuka/Rei.  Kaji would be good as well, but Shinji is just such an annoying whinging brat.

Seems pretty unfair to single Shinji out. That whole series is about turning the screws on teenagers and then watching them break. Why is Asuka's violence and subsequent catatonia or Rei's dissociation from friends and social ties more praiseworthy than Shinji's honest and desperate cry for rescue? And isn't the fact that unlike the other two, Shinji had no military training (and is obviously totally unsuited to it) an extenuating circumstance?

It's not just the kids.  The entire cast is fucked-up.  Misato makes Faye look like a teetotaler, Gendo is a complete arsehole, and Ritsuko has serious issues as well.  As much as the English language voice actress for Asuka grates on me, I just have always found Shinji annoying.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 10 Feb 2015, 18:18
I just have always found Shinji annoying.

Yeah, I am challenging you to interrogate that first impression. Can you come up with a reason other than that the showrunners dared to make an effeminate boy the protagonist of an action show?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 10 Feb 2015, 18:20
The more I read the comic the more I hear Faye's series of 'fucks' go in time with the sound of the 'glugs' from the pouring booze. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 10 Feb 2015, 18:27
First time I read the comic I actually interpreted the "fuck"s as being the "glug" sounds. The whiskey was saying "fuck" as it got poured down the drain.

In my own defense, it was 3 AM and I couldn't sleep.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Feb 2015, 18:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8ynIDYyG4
That's what squeeing is to me :D

I kid you not, that is exactly what the seatbelt buzzer in one of my cars sounds like (+or- an octave).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 10 Feb 2015, 18:31
To be honest, I've always had a bit of dislike of NGE, and its mostly because every character is messed up and hard to like. Even the ones the fans do like (I really find the creepy attraction to the obviously emotionally damaged doll-like Rei in the fandom really really disturbing).

I've come to like it more as I grew out of my teen years, because of the things it does do well (though I still think it has major flaws), and through it all... I think Shinji might be the character I ended up liking the most. His reactions are really really understandable, even if they are "whiny". He is literally put in a position where nothing stands between the destruction of everything other than himself, piloting a "robot" that literally causes him to go berserk, he has no training for it, there seems to be zero counseling for him, and he doesn't have a real choice. There is no choice in his actions. Its do it or everyone ever dies. And he is 14!

At least he is honest about his completely understandable depression.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: weisbm on 10 Feb 2015, 19:14
Faye,  I'd like to introduce you to an old friend......

Faye, this is Bill.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DillyDolly on 10 Feb 2015, 19:32
It is a good start. A lot more similar small acts of self-discipline are necessary if Faye is to get rid of her addiction.

You never get rid of it. You just learn not to feed it. But addiction's a vampire. Even if you starve the bastard for years it's still alive and just waiting for you to open the crypt so it can get its teeth into your throat  and suck the life out of you again.

Hmmm... Seems more like a chicken and egg thing. If fall into a deep depression or go through ridiculous stress you are more likely to over-indulge and if you don't pay attention you can become hooked, but if you keep check of yourself you can make sure to channel it properly. The question is how far has Faye gone? I'd like to think she's not completely in the territory of having to remain off alcohol her entire life as she seems very self aware—but she needs to stay away from it for a while and use much moderation when she drinks in the distant future.

Then again it really probably depends on the person and the type of addiction they have. Lots of factors come into play. Some people get instantly addicted to the smallest things to the point they can't have it in the house. Some people can part-take in extremely addictive things and be unphased. My husband used to socially smoke. He never got hooked. I teased him about it because I didn't believe he'd ever smoke and that it was even possible to smoke and not get hooked. So he bought some cigarettes, lit up, and then later casually tossed out the rest of the packet. It's all about knowing where your limits are and are not before you hit them.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Feb 2015, 20:20
Faye,  I'd like to introduce you to an old friend......

Faye, this is Bill.

Help me out with this one?  Not getting the reference...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 10 Feb 2015, 20:24
Faye,  I'd like to introduce you to an old friend......

Faye, this is Bill.

Help me out with this one?  Not getting the reference...

Bill W. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_W.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Feb 2015, 20:30
Ah. 

Thanks! 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: celticgeek on 10 Feb 2015, 20:54
Why should it bother her, she helped to push them together.  Quack, quack quack.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 10 Feb 2015, 20:55
Comic.

I don't see how this is some big faux pas.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Feb 2015, 20:56
I don't get it either.  What did Marten do wrong?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 10 Feb 2015, 21:09
This is wasted motion. Where is Dora?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 10 Feb 2015, 21:12
Comic.

I don't see how this is some big faux pas.
I don't get it either.  What did Marten do wrong?
By agreeing that she 'had enough to worry about', he could be seen as essentially saying 'Ah, right, you've got enough issues to make up a few subscriptions'.

Not that he meant that, or that she thought he did. But it -is- Marten. Sometimes he really overthinks shit, or reads between the lines of his own words.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 10 Feb 2015, 21:12
I don't get it either.  What did Marten do wrong?

He just made a death-glare worthy remark to a woman well known for punching him, sometimes for no reason.  Of course he's jumpy.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ASB84 on 10 Feb 2015, 21:13
It's not a huge faux pas, but it's a bit of an awkward turn of phrase. It unintentionally implies "Yeah, you are pretty much messed up right now", or "Yeah, things really have gone to shit for you, haven't they?" It's not nasty or anything, but it probably sounded better/less callous in his head. And Marten being Marten, he's now horrified by it.

And we thought that his smoothness with Claire meant that he'd completely changed. There's our Marten!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mojo on 10 Feb 2015, 21:13
Ahhh, there's the Marten we know so well.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 10 Feb 2015, 21:16
But it isn't death glare worthy, not the morning after a trip to the hospital.

For that matter it doesn't deserve a death glare ever to agree that just about anyone has worries beyond whether or not their roommate got laid last night.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Feb 2015, 21:21
Plus she just lost her job due to her drinking problem.  I dunno, agreeing that she has bigger problems than ship-noises on the other side of the wall seems like a perfectly innocent statement to me. But, shrug, I'll let it slide...this time.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 10 Feb 2015, 21:23
It was just a bad turn of phrase, and while Marten realises it's not exactly a punch worthy statement, he knows he kinda put his foot in his mouth just a wee bit.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: techkid on 10 Feb 2015, 21:28
From my point of view (and judging by Faye's complete non-reaction, her own as well), Marten was showing empathy towards Faye. His response was... kind of positive. Acknowledging that she had a point without being condescending about it.

A more death-punch-worthy response would have been something like "Ain't that the truth!" Marten would have then been exploded all over the kitchen.

Oh, Marten. Your ability to find faux pas where they don't necessarily exist is masterly.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 10 Feb 2015, 21:30
This is wasted motion.

With your avatar, I expected you to say "Eliminate it."

Quote from: AprilArcus
Where is Dora?

Where is Pintsize?

Edit: And where is the booty-dance?!

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Feb 2015, 21:34
She has him well trained.  Even a hint of insensitivity, and he's cringing like a puppy before a rolled newspaper...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ybtlamw on 10 Feb 2015, 21:42
At least she didn't storm out of their apartment and run off to find solace at Sven's like the last time he called her an alcoholic. Granted, the last time was a joke-in-poor-taste, and he didn't really call her an alcoholic outright this time, but the situations are similar. At least Faye's grown up since then. Well, kind of.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: St.Clair on 10 Feb 2015, 22:00
I don't get it either.  *shrug*
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 10 Feb 2015, 22:29
Honestly, when Faye has gotten her alcoholism under control, she should work HARD on her violence. When your BEST FRIEND reacts like Marten does in today's strip, you have a real problem.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 23:17
I have two reactions to today's comic.

Firstly, Marten needs to stop apologising before he's sure that he's done something wrong. Still, it's a sign of a good friend that he remembers how calling Faye an alcoholic affected her before and doesn't want to go there again.

Secondly, I think that Faye needed to get some coffee in her mouth to stop herself from laughing; it would send entirely the wrong message.

Finally... I'm assuming that Faye slept in. I can't think of any other way that Claire could have left unnoticed.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 10 Feb 2015, 23:25
She's still there, in bed, waiting for round 7. :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 10 Feb 2015, 23:27

Finally... I'm assuming that Faye slept in. I can't think of any other way that Claire could have left unnoticed.

She could still be in his room or something.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply that was much funnier than yours has been posted. You may wish to review your post.

Fuck.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: techkid on 10 Feb 2015, 23:28
Honestly, when Faye has gotten her alcoholism under control, she should work HARD on her violence. When your BEST FRIEND reacts like Marten does in today's strip, you have a real problem.

It's been some time that her therapist has suggested that... (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1808)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 10 Feb 2015, 23:28
She's still there, in bed, waiting for round 7. :-D

Only seven?  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 10 Feb 2015, 23:30
She's still there, in bed, waiting for round 7. :-D

Only seven?  :wink:

My record is 8. After awhile it's not even fun, but you both just want to get that high score.

EDIT - In a day, not in a row, holy shit can you imagine?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 10 Feb 2015, 23:38
And normal Marten service has been resumed.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 10 Feb 2015, 23:40
It's not very rational for Marten to think that this is a big faux pas considering how non-committal of a statement "I guess that's true" is. Having said that, it still seems realistic that he would react in this way. After all, this is Marten we're talking about. If there's one thing that he does more than putting his foot in his mouth, it's making things worse by overreacting to thinking that he's put his foot in his mouth (see also: Marigold + swimsuit).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 Feb 2015, 23:43
[glug, glug, glug]
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Truec on 11 Feb 2015, 00:02
I almost wish I drank coffee just so I could slurp it scornfully at people who annoy me.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Feb 2015, 00:04
Honestly, when Faye has gotten her alcoholism under control, she should work HARD on her violence. When your BEST FRIEND reacts like Marten does in today's strip, you have a real problem.

I actually think she's done this, although it wasn't remarked on much overtly as Jeph slowly mutated it from "running gag" to "actually a borderline domestic abuse situation". She hasn't laid a hand on him since 1818 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818), and before that like 411 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=411) I think?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Akima on 11 Feb 2015, 00:17
Yes, the "Tom & Jerry" attitude to violence in QC has pretty much died, except perhaps for that aimed at Pintsize. Can you imaging Vespavenger, or the kung-fu monks, appearing nowadays?

And yes, over-reaction from Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Feb 2015, 00:32
Edit: And where is the booty-dance?!

PANEL ONE: Tai working at the front desk of the library.
PANEL TWO: Tai looks up, toward the door.
PANEL THREE (full width): Marten and Claire simultaneously and wordlessly enter.
PANEL FOUR: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL FIVE: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL SIX: [BEAT]
PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Orkboy on 11 Feb 2015, 00:55
Edit: And where is the booty-dance?!

PANEL ONE: Tai working at the front desk of the library.
PANEL TWO: Tai looks up, toward the door.
PANEL THREE (full width): Marten and Claire simultaneously and wordlessly enter.
PANEL FOUR: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL FIVE: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL SIX: [BEAT]
PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter.

(http://www.andion.co/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/star-trek-make-it-so.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 11 Feb 2015, 01:09
Edit: And where is the booty-dance?!

PANEL ONE: Tai working at the front desk of the library.
PANEL TWO: Tai looks up, toward the door.
PANEL THREE (full width): Marten and Claire simultaneously and wordlessly enter.
PANEL FOUR: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL FIVE: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL SIX: [BEAT]
PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter. throws copious amounts of confetti.
Fixed that for you  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ASB84 on 11 Feb 2015, 01:10
Honestly, when Faye has gotten her alcoholism under control, she should work HARD on her violence. When your BEST FRIEND reacts like Marten does in today's strip, you have a real problem.

I actually think she's done this, although it wasn't remarked on much overtly as Jeph slowly mutated it from "running gag" to "actually a borderline domestic abuse situation". She hasn't laid a hand on him since 1818 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818), and before that like 411 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=411) I think?

It's been toned down in most respects, but the threat of violence (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2449) is still there when she takes exception to something. I think she still looks to deal with situations using fear and intimidation (even if she rarely follows through with any violent acts these days), so it seems like there are still some issues to be sorted out.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 01:14
Edit: And where is the booty-dance?!

PANEL ONE: Tai working at the front desk of the library.
PANEL TWO: Tai looks up, toward the door.
PANEL THREE (full width): Marten and Claire simultaneously and wordlessly enter.
PANEL FOUR: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL FIVE: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL SIX: [BEAT]
PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter. throws copious amounts of confetti.
Fixed that for you  :-D

She can do two things, Tai's a complicated woman. Also, is Claire joining in on booty dance? She doesn't seem like a booty dance type of person.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 11 Feb 2015, 01:15
Loved today's comic. I approve of the wringing of comedy from the drama.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Feb 2015, 01:20
Edit: And where is the booty-dance?!

PANEL ONE: Tai working at the front desk of the library.
PANEL TWO: Tai looks up, toward the door.
PANEL THREE (full width): Marten and Claire simultaneously and wordlessly enter.
PANEL FOUR: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL FIVE: [BOOTY DANCE]
PANEL SIX: [BEAT]
PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter. throws copious amounts of confetti.
Fixed that for you  :-D

She can do two things, Tai's a complicated woman. Also, is Claire joining in on booty dance? She doesn't seem like a booty dance type of person.
Eh, it's a running gag. I'm having trouble coming up with instances where opportunities for a booty dance were missed, and it's been double dances more often than not.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 01:25
Does Claire seem like the type of person that would get mad if people learned from Marten (perhaps in booty dance form, eh?) that they had the sex? She does embarrassed pretty easily.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Feb 2015, 01:36
I don't think so. Claire would be embarrassed, for sure, but I don't think she'd be angry about it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 01:44
I think that we're starting a new medium-term arc at the moment - Faye's day after the night before. I'm expecting the next major sequence of strips to be Faye talking to Marten over breakfast about what has happened to her. Thinking about it, I'm fairly sure that Claire is still in Marten's bedroom, waiting for him to clear the minefield for her. I think that she and Pintsize will also be present during Faye's semi-monologue, both mostly to provide the bittersweet punchlines at the end of the strip.

After Marten and Claire leave for the library my feeling is that Hannelore will be around, at least in the morning, to help Faye out. I'm thinking of something like a semi-dark reprise of Marten and Claire's first date, with the two making wry observations about Faye's situation. This may include a visit to CoD and some kind of tentative contact with Dora.

When Hannelore has to start her shift at CoD, I'm still wondering if May may take over as Faye's minder. I really think that she has the right personality - unsympathetic, firm but, ultimately, fair that Faye would need. I'd love to have Marten to come home to find Faye and May rolling in laughter on the floor of the lounge because one or the other had said something that proved they have very, very similar sense of humour.

Naturally, there would also be the occasional one- or two-strip filler like Tai's response to Marten and Claire's new physical relationship and maybe Hannelore exchanging death-glares with Juicy when the woman ignorantly enters CoD.

A couple of things I'd like to see as the "Faye's Recovery" arc progresses:
Ultimately, I'm really feeling that we're starting a new 'growing up' phase of the strip with the characters moving away from 'post-college slackers' towards a more adult approach to their lives and relationships.

I actually think she's done this, although it wasn't remarked on much overtly as Jeph slowly mutated it from "running gag" to "actually a borderline domestic abuse situation". She hasn't laid a hand on him since 1818 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1818), and before that like 411 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=411) I think?

It's been toned down in most respects, but the threat of violence (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2449) is still there when she takes exception to something. I think she still looks to deal with situations using fear and intimidation (even if she rarely follows through with any violent acts these days), so it seems like there are still some issues to be sorted out.

Over on the Subreddit, there is a border ad that describes Questionable Content as a Webcomic Soap Opera. I think that this is a fair description - The strip is progressively following a set of characters' lives through primarily character-driven drama, comedy, romance and heartbreak. There is very little or any hint of a long-running meta-plot beyond 'these characters are moving through life and this is what has happened this time'.

Regarding Faye's violent tendencies, initially, QC was not ment to be even sightly realistic. It was comedy and it was occasionally slapstick comedy. However, with time, the characters have developed, become more three-dimensional and their extremely exaggerated primary characteristics have been toned down quite considerably. I argue that this was a conscious choice on Jeph's part, mostly motivated by his desire to more real-world-like characters (starting with the rightly-infamous Strip 500) rather than just a strip-by-strip series of jokes.

Does Claire seem like the type of person that would get mad if people learned from Marten (perhaps in booty dance form, eh?) that they had the sex? She does embarrassed pretty easily.

She would be embarrassed but, if it was found out by someone inferring it from her and/or Marten's behaviour, I doubt she'd get mad at anyone. She might get defensive until she realises that no-one is criticising her. Except Clinton, who doesn't matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: osaka on 11 Feb 2015, 02:16

  • I'd like for Faye to have at least one close brush with a relapse, maybe after arguing with someone over something silly; it would be interesting to have May of all people to talk her down.


The other points of the list are pretty good (although I feel that "Doc Hanners" is highly unlikely), but I think it's more possible for May to drink the stuff in front of her. "There, now you can't drink this fifth. And don't go buy another"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 11 Feb 2015, 02:29
Awww, Marten. Missing the taste of your own foot, were you? And there's Faye, not quite willing to admit she's enjoying your discomfiture and wondering how to use it to her advantage.

Now this is the QC I remember. Just ... a little more subtle.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: aphanisis81 on 11 Feb 2015, 02:53
BenRG, I had to reread item #2 in your wishlist several times before it clicked that you meant Faye could get a job at the Secret Bakery. I thought you meant that Dora would want Faye to play go-between in getting Dora a second chance at romance with Jim, in which case Tai and Veronica would no doubt team up and destroy - absolutely fucking destroy - all involved parties.

Your proposal, of course, makes way way more sense. What can I say...it's early.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 11 Feb 2015, 04:07
Hah, nice. Faye's complete non-reaction sells it!

Also: Marten, going from super-smooth to inserting foot in mouth again. I can't figure out his character any more  :psyduck:

also, to the reconciliation-then-Jim-and-second-chances:
I hope Dora and Faye spend some time apart. Like, a few weeks or so. While they aren't in a relationship, their personalities clash with each other and not in a good way. Dora had several freak-outs over Faye's behaviour (sleeping with Sven, hugging Marten), and while Faye's rapier wit and treatment of customers are a major selling point of Coffee of Doom, she counts them as very negative qualities. Faye... well, Faye isn't an easy person to get along with, and while she mostly dealt with her negative feelings about Dora by drinking, it doesn't mean they aren't there. They need to find out what they like and miss about the other person, and maybe reconciliate when everything's blown over and then redefine what they mean to each other, now that they aren't boss/employee any more.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Wildroses on 11 Feb 2015, 04:14
Alas, it appears Marten's almost supernatural ability to say the right things at the right time to his transgender girlfriend are coming at a terrible cost. He's having a lot of trouble picking the right thing to say to his best friend about her alcohol related dramas.

Mind you, he was having that trouble even before Claire appeared.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 04:19
Also: Marten, going from super-smooth to inserting foot in mouth again. I can't figure out his character any more  :psyduck:

There's no reason he can't have the both qualities at the same time! He's being very careful with what he says to Claire for the obvious reasons. Faye he's known for years and I don't think that his brain-to-mouth filter is very often engaged when he's around her.

Alternatively, consider this possibility: Maybe Marten isn't being super-smooth. He's just doing exactly what he did with Faye - saying the first thing that comes into his head. Let's just face the fact that Marten is crushing on Claire so badly that she's practically surrounded in bubbles and sparkles in his point of view! :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Nathanyel on 11 Feb 2015, 04:22
Damn, misinterpreted the doorknobs of the cupboards as a sign of relapse...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 11 Feb 2015, 04:23
Also: Marten, going from super-smooth to inserting foot in mouth again. I can't figure out his character any more  :psyduck:

There's no reason he can't have the both qualities at the same time! He's being very careful with what he says to Claire for the obvious reasons. Faye he's known for years and I don't think that his brain-to-mouth filter is very often engaged when he's around her.

Alternatively, consider this possibility: Maybe Marten isn't being super-smooth. He's just doing exactly what he did with Faye - saying the first thing that comes into his head. Let's just face the fact that Marten is crushing on Claire so badly that she's practically surrounded in bubbles and sparkles in his point of view! :wink:

Scary thought, BenRG - that would mean that once the infatuation ends, he'll be insulting Claire continuously!  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hakko504 on 11 Feb 2015, 04:38
Also: Marten, going from super-smooth to inserting foot in mouth again. I can't figure out his character any more  :psyduck:

There's no reason he can't have the both qualities at the same time! He's being very careful with what he says to Claire for the obvious reasons. Faye he's known for years and I don't think that his brain-to-mouth filter is very often engaged when he's around her.

Alternatively, consider this possibility: Maybe Marten isn't being super-smooth. He's just doing exactly what he did with Faye - saying the first thing that comes into his head. Let's just face the fact that Marten is crushing on Claire so badly that she's practically surrounded in bubbles and sparkles in his point of view! :wink:

Scary thought, BenRG - that would mean that once the infatuation ends, he'll be insulting Claire continuously!  :-P
Not continuously, I don't think. But there may very well be a time or two where he says something seriously hurting to Claire. Hopefully it's something that can be patched together again afterwards. Or Clinton will have to use the murder mode of his hand again.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 04:42
Scary thought, BenRG - that would mean that once the infatuation ends, he'll be insulting Claire continuously!  :-P
Not continuously, I don't think. But there may very well be a time or two where he says something seriously hurting to Claire. Hopefully it's something that can be patched together again afterwards. Or Clinton will have to use the murder mode of his hand again.

I wonder if Claire is mature enough to realise when a 'hurtful comment' is true?

In any case, given this is Marten, Claire has already got the full length and breadth of his 'filter off' mode. One example is when he got a mouthful of her hair during an attempted brotherly hug.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 11 Feb 2015, 04:50

PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter. throws copious amounts of confetti.
Fixed that for you  :-D

Now wait a minute... Tai may be a party girl, but she's not full-blown
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 11 Feb 2015, 05:13

PANEL SEVEN: Tai breaks into laughter. throws copious amounts of confetti.
Fixed that for you  :-D

Now wait a minute... Tai may be a party girl, but she's not full-blown
(click to show/hide)

Is that can(n)on?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Feb 2015, 05:14
Party cannon!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 05:21
Now wait a minute... Tai may be a party girl, but she's not full-blown
(click to show/hide)

Tai may not be as wild or random as Our Lady of the Eternal Party but she loves for her friends to be happy and in loving relationships. With this in mind, I'm fairly sure that so much a hint comes to her that Marten and Claire are intimate, it will be hard to hold her back from planning a party and dragging Claire to the appropriate retail establishments to purchase suitable clothing and 'peripherals'.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Feb 2015, 05:23
If anything has the potential to embarrass her, it's that. Shit, maybe it should be an audienceless booty dance.

Which means it probably won't be and we can expect wacky hijinks.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 11 Feb 2015, 05:25
I really don't think Dora would refer Faye to secret bakery. Dora has been talking to Faye for years about how she should have more ambition and aspire to something besides a barista. Referring Faye to another coffee shop job just doesn't seem in character for Dora.

I also, personally, REALLY don't want  Faye to get another barista job. It would be more interesting to see her try something new. even if she fails, it will be much more interesting.

I'm hoping Faye works more on sculpting.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 11 Feb 2015, 05:35
I could see how the hijinks could very quickly go from wacky to scarring, though. Tai's not good about boundaries (see Marten having to rather forcefully tell Tai to leave Hannelore alone), and Claire's got some serious boundaries, especially in the sexual department.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Orkboy on 11 Feb 2015, 05:42
I don't think Marten is super suave / foot-in-mouth clueless, it's that he's completely sincere and just says what he thinks before he thinks about whether he should say what he thinks. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Feb 2015, 06:44
True; and it's what he thinks of Claire as opposed to what he thinks of Faye's situation that's causing the discrepancy. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Truec on 11 Feb 2015, 12:03
I really don't think Dora would refer Faye to secret bakery. Dora has been talking to Faye for years about how she should have more ambition and aspire to something besides a barista. Referring Faye to another coffee shop job just doesn't seem in character for Dora.

I also, personally, REALLY don't want  Faye to get another barista job. It would be more interesting to see her try something new. even if she fails, it will be much more interesting.

I'm hoping Faye works more on sculpting.

The thing about art is that, unless you're independently wealthy, you need a day job to pay the bills while you make your art.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Feb 2015, 12:45
Yeah, but if she teams up with Raven, the possibilities are endless 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: osaka on 11 Feb 2015, 12:46
And you can just have Hanners come thru for the first couple of months until she gets something sold.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Feb 2015, 13:18
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 11 Feb 2015, 13:40
I really don't think Dora would refer Faye to secret bakery. Dora has been talking to Faye for years about how she should have more ambition and aspire to something besides a barista. Referring Faye to another coffee shop job just doesn't seem in character for Dora.

I also, personally, REALLY don't want  Faye to get another barista job. It would be more interesting to see her try something new. even if she fails, it will be much more interesting.

I'm hoping Faye works more on sculpting.

The thing about art is that, unless you're independently wealthy, you need a day job to pay the bills while you make your art.

She's better off with the day job either way. She'd just be getting (re)started, and from what we've seen in-comic, her confidence in herself and her art is just about nil. So let's say she decides to do the sculpture full-time with no job and no patron (barring some kind of deus ex machina [no, I don't mean Pintsize]). No job = stress, under even the best circumstances. No job + rent + bills + recovery = insane pressure and a high possibility of relapse. Add to that the fact that you're much more likely to take on commissions you don't want, because you've got bills to pay. At some point, you end up resenting yourself and burning out on your art/craft.

Now let's look at the alternative: full-time job, with the art as a side gig/outlet. Money's coming in, so the rent and the bills are paid. Client's unreasonable, won't pay on time, is a creeper, or otherwise just isn't working for you? Screw 'em. They're not your only, or biggest, source of income, so you have more control in the transactional side of things. As an added bonus, you get the time and the chance to develop your style and find your voice in your craft, because you have the freedom to experiment and make mistakes without worrying about whether they'll cost you the roof over your head.

Best of all -- and I'm speaking at least somewhat from experience here -- each thing balances the other. Having a bad day at the office? You've got your other gig waiting for you at the end of it, and can blow off steam by working on something you love. Bad day with the art? A day at the office takes your mind off the block and lets you approach things with a clear head.

Finally, since Faye's trying (one assumes) to break old patterns and habits, the fact that a job and the art will take up a lot of her time will make her re-evaluate what's important. There's only so many hours in the day; you can waste them on TV, booze, and bullshit, or you can make the conscious choice to put those things to one side so you've got the time to do what matters to you and moves you forward. I think that'd be uncomfortable as hell for her at first -- it's hard to essentially step out on faith, and it's all part of the wrenching changes going on in her life -- but more comfortable, and more healthy, once she gets adjusted to it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Feb 2015, 14:15
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.

"Nice bronze anomalocaris, but can you make it more... deadly?"
"YES!!!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 11 Feb 2015, 14:22
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.

"Nice bronze anomalocaris, but can you make it more... deadly?"
"YES!!!"

I always got the feeling Beatrice was more into bronze bulls.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 11 Feb 2015, 14:33
However, Faye could approach the gallery owner and get an advance on her next project. He knows she has the talent, and that she will finish it. I mean, just from my perspective, Faye would probably rather be her own boss than work under someone again.

I would be very interested to see Faye try to make a living off of her sculpture. I would not be interested to see Faye working at another coffee shop.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 11 Feb 2015, 14:39
However, Faye could approach the gallery owner and get an advance on her next project. He knows she has the talent, and that she will finish it. I mean, just from my perspective, Faye would probably rather be her own boss than work under someone again.

I would be very interested to see Faye try to make a living off of her sculpture. I would not be interested to see Faye working at another coffee shop.

Then again, Faye really only complete the T-espressosaurus because Dora was managing her and driving her forward.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 15:09
I would not be interested to see Faye working at another coffee shop.

The Secret Bakery is not 'another coffee shop'. It's a very different operation with a different philosophy and different people (I've read it described as the 'Anti-Coffee of Doom'). It would be a different environment in which to place Faye with different challenges and benefits for her as a character.
There is potentially a new story to be told there and it is possible that the less aggressive environment might be beneficial for her.

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Fix'd typo
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Feb 2015, 15:24
She'd also have panel time with Renee, Angus's other ex.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 11 Feb 2015, 15:25
That.. just does not appeal to me. In terms of a story. If this were real life, whatever, Faye prob would get a job a Secret Bakery, Heck, Padma just quit, they probably have an opening for her.

From a storytelling perspective, at least to me, Faye working at a coffee shop does not make sense. There is already a "faye" character at SB, who also used to date Angus. and while I guess that would make for more "delicious drama" I am just not interested in that. It might be fun as a one time gag... Faye goes in to SB to apply for job and is confronted with her Bizarro world counterpart.

I would rather see Faye get a job delivering Pizza, than see her work at SB.

I mean, whatever, it's Jeph's story and he's gonna go where he's gonna go. And thats cool. I just really hope he goes in another direction than SB.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 11 Feb 2015, 15:32
Not to be all realistic or anything, but there are other jobs she can do in tandem with the sculpture that wouldn't involve coffee or comestibles (I bring this up because a decent portion of the forum -- me included -- thinks that Faye working wouldn't be a bad idea, while the other half seems to think that "job" = CoD or SB).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 11 Feb 2015, 15:40
Faye's new job: The Worst Librarian.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 11 Feb 2015, 15:45
I imagine part of the reason that people are focused on CoD or SB as potential places of employment for Faye is that we already know the characters at those places. If Faye were to get a job at some completely different place, it would mean either not really showing us Faye at work or introducing a whole new set of characters. That might start to get kind of unwieldy considering how large the current ensemble is. There are already some character's storylines that haven't been followed up on in quite a while.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TheCollector on 11 Feb 2015, 15:48
Seeee, the Martin we all know so well is still in there, lol. :3
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: meowmix on 11 Feb 2015, 16:01
Hello, long time lurker, first time poster :)

The moment that got me to join and comment was when people didn't understand the kinkiness behind Claire's desire to wear glasses during sex. To that, I say... Does Marten's room have mirrors? Because it's pretty kinky to watch.

Also, I feel that Marten is way too nervous or over accommodating to Faye in the most recent strip. Why does he need to ask if it's okay to have someone over? Why is it so foot-in-mouth for him to agree with Faye that she has a lot of issues to think about?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 16:06
Hi new person! Don't mind me, I'm only here to make you uncomfortable.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Feb 2015, 16:13
Can we go back to talking about how wonderful Monday's comic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2892) was?  Maybe it's just me, but seeing how happy Claire and Marten are has really made my week, and I'm supposed to be a crusty old cynic with no time for these human emotions.  There was always the possibility that their pillow talk after their first time could be really awkward--Claire nursing some lingering doubts about Marten's sincerity ("Did he really like what we did, or is he just going through the motions to spare my feelings?"), Marten unsure of his own feelings, etc.--so seeing them both past that, totally happy and comfortable with each other, and ready for another go (with glasses on) has made me ridiculously happy all week (well, "ridiculously happy" by my standards), and turned #2892 into one of my favorite QC strips.  Top 10, definitely.  Panel 3 deserves special mention.  Her bright eyes and her hand curled around the back of Marten's neck says it all.  Well done, Jeph.

(Although I'm still not sure what happened to Claire's boobs in Panel 1.  They seem to have migrated further down her torso.  Marten needs to be a gentleman and shift his arm further up so they can return to their proper places and remain tactfully hidden.)

Now if anyone needs me, I'll be over in the corner practicing my tough & stoic look.  Grr.  Don't look at me!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 16:19

Now if anyone needs me, I'll be over in the corner practicing my tough & stoic look.  Grr.  Don't look at me!

I, on the other hand, have conditioned myself to think cute things are stupid. I'll let Bill Burr explain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3UidFxqaqM

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Feb 2015, 16:24
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.

"Nice bronze anomalocaris, but can you make it more... deadly?"
"YES!!!"

I always got the feeling Beatrice was more into bronze bulls.

Quite a brazen statement. :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Feb 2015, 16:52
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.

"Nice bronze anomalocaris, but can you make it more... deadly?"
"YES!!!"

I always got the feeling Beatrice was more into bronze bulls.

Quite a brazen statement. :claireface:

I dunno, having Faye build that kind of device for Hannelore's mom would sound a low point in the comic.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 11 Feb 2015, 17:15
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.

Maybe Faye can pull a da Vinci and create war machines to pay the bills.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 11 Feb 2015, 17:30
I hear the pentagon pays $4000 per war ladle.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 11 Feb 2015, 17:40
This comic has too much whelm. I don't know what to do with this much whelming.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 11 Feb 2015, 17:41
If Beatrice decides to become a patron of the arts the conflict possibilities are endless.

"Nice bronze anomalocaris, but can you make it more... deadly?"
"YES!!!"

I always got the feeling Beatrice was more into bronze bulls.

Quite a brazen statement. :claireface:

I dunno, having Faye build that kind of device for Hannelore's mom would sound a low point in the comic.

You never know, things might just heat up now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zalder on 11 Feb 2015, 17:44
Good to see that, even if she grumbled through it, Faye has a rough plan of what she needs to do.  Also, Claire is just too damn adorable.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 17:46
Man, whelm is bullshit.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 11 Feb 2015, 17:47
I wonder if its hit Claire that her mother's going to comment about her being out all night and that she's wearing a teeshirt three sizes too big.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Feb 2015, 17:51
I suspect Claire's mom is busy hanging up the "Happy Arbor Day 2003" banner in front of Casa Augustus.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 11 Feb 2015, 17:52
Well, that answers the question of whether Faye had stopped going to therapy or not.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 11 Feb 2015, 18:08
I think it also answers the question of whether Faye will go to AA or not.  I suspect that's what the being ogled by creepy old dudes comment was supposed to imply.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ASB84 on 11 Feb 2015, 18:11
Over on the Subreddit, there is a border ad that describes Questionable Content as a Webcomic Soap Opera. I think that this is a fair description - The strip is progressively following a set of characters' lives through primarily character-driven drama, comedy, romance and heartbreak. There is very little or any hint of a long-running meta-plot beyond 'these characters are moving through life and this is what has happened this time'.

Regarding Faye's violent tendencies, initially, QC was not ment to be even sightly realistic. It was comedy and it was occasionally slapstick comedy. However, with time, the characters have developed, become more three-dimensional and their extremely exaggerated primary characteristics have been toned down quite considerably. I argue that this was a conscious choice on Jeph's part, mostly motivated by his desire to more real-world-like characters (starting with the rightly-infamous Strip 500) rather than just a strip-by-strip series of jokes.

Absolutely. Still, there are traces of that original characterisation that have evolved into more realistic, but nevertheless abrasive and problematic personality traits, that would be good for her to work out.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Feb 2015, 18:13
Oh my gosh! Dialogue! Claire interacting with a non-library character! Claire talking about her past!

I feel like the art has been very "on" this week, particularly Monday and Tuesday's strips. This one is all right, but isn't it weird how Claire's facial expression doesn't change at all between panels 1, 2, and 4? My first guess was that Jeph is copy-and-pasting his pencils, but if I overlay them in photoshop it's clear that he isn't — all the outlines are subtly different. I really don't understand why he doesn't vary up facial expressions or camera angles; it must be as boring to draw this kind of strip as it is to read it.

Relatedly, the new 2x2 format strikes again — if this were drawn in the 1x4 style, we'd have all three of Faye, Marten and Claire in-frame and bantering/reaacting. Instead we get two-back-to-back, two-on-two conversations, and I guess Marten is off in the bathroom for this conversation or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Feb 2015, 18:19
. This one is all right, but isn't it weird how Claire's facial expression doesn't change at all between panels 1, 2, and 4?

That's because they're walking from one room to another and the "camera" is staying directly in front of them, so Claire keeps looking at Faye from the same angle.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Feb 2015, 18:28
. This one is all right, but isn't it weird how Claire's facial expression doesn't change at all between panels 1, 2, and 4?

That's because they're walking from one room to another and the "camera" is staying directly in front of them, so Claire keeps looking at Faye from the same angle.

Jeph's West Winging it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Coffee_Kaioken on 11 Feb 2015, 18:42
Faye's new job: The Worst Librarian.

Then she and Marten are working together, living together, along with seeing him and Claire more often.... eh.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Feb 2015, 18:43
So there's art therapy, aromatherapy, and now "fuckin' therapy".
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 Feb 2015, 18:48
"fuckin' therapy".

Cue the speculation that Sven will be showing up soon...  :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 11 Feb 2015, 18:49
So there's art therapy, aromatherapy, and now "fuckin' therapy".
You forgot physiotherapy, because I imagine anyone who messes or ogles Faye right now is going to be in need of it and soon.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 11 Feb 2015, 18:50
When did Faye stop going to therapy?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Feb 2015, 19:02
Probably as soon as she started seeing Angus, or shortly thereafter. 


After all, relationships solve everything...  :roll:

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On a different note, it's good that Faye's a bit preoccupied with her own problems.  Otherwise, she might have asked Claire what she needed a support group for... 

Not that she'd react really badly, but I imagine a spittake would be involved since she's still working on her coffee. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 11 Feb 2015, 19:14
Unless Claire answered that question with "Anxiety", which really isn't an incorrect answer at all.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Feb 2015, 19:17
Probably as soon as she started seeing Angus, or shortly thereafter.

I think the last time she mentioned therapy was in 1802 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1802) where she obtains a referral for Dora.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Feb 2015, 19:29
Probably as soon as she started seeing Angus, or shortly thereafter. 


After all, relationships solve everything...  :roll:

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On a different note, it's good that Faye's a bit preoccupied with her own problems.  Otherwise, she might have asked Claire what she needed a support group for... 

Not that she'd react really badly, but I imagine a spittake would be involved since she's still working on her coffee. 

I can't remember if Faye knows about Claire or not.

Any Archive-fu master able to find the relevent Comics where she told Marten?
Was Faye there or was it just her, Marten, Clinton and, I think, Emily?



Dr. Corrine's return?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 Feb 2015, 19:32
Faye doesn't know about Claire. She told Marten here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2323) and Emily here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2572).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 11 Feb 2015, 19:33
yeah, that was after Faye and Angus started dating. I think she stopped going when she started feeling better. I mean it's expensive after all and she's not rolling in money.

And I don't think Faye knows about Claire's status, but I think she does know at least that she has anxiety attacks, since Marten probably told her.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TheCollector on 11 Feb 2015, 19:36
Panel 3 Claire for new cutest Claire! :3
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Feb 2015, 19:38
Faye doesn't know about Claire. She told Marten here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2323) and Emily here (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2572).


OK.  Just couldn't remember whether Faye was there when Claire told Marten at the Lakeside Party.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 Feb 2015, 19:39
Faye (or any of the other cast members) may have figured it out, or Emily may have spilled the beans to someone. And just nobody bothered to comment on it. But it's more likely (and conservation of comic reality) is that only Marten, Emily and the Agustus' know of that part of Claire's past.

One thing that is curious though... what sort of group therapy would one go to for anxiety? I am just not thinking of a case where that would be a useful treatment.
OK.  Just couldn't remember whether Faye was there when Claire told Marten at the Lakeside Party.

Nah, she was busy making with the face sucking with Angus at the time...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 19:43
Makes you wonder if anyone is going to be surprising close-minded about it, you never know.


One thing that is curious though... what sort of group therapy would one go to for anxiety? I am just not thinking of a case where that would be a useful treatment.


They use them a lot, but the only times I've heard of it has been in rehab/mental wellness type of place. I think it's more just being able to open up, but I'm not a therapist.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 11 Feb 2015, 19:44
"I - I'm sorry, I can't stay for tonight's session, I - I think I'm having an anxiety attack..."


Yeah.  A whole room of people popping atavans because they're anxious about talking about their anxiety in front of others wouldn't be very productive! 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dalillama on 11 Feb 2015, 20:01
So there's art therapy, aromatherapy, and now "fuckin' therapy".
No, this isn't Ma3.

One thing that is curious though... what sort of group therapy would one go to for anxiety? I am just not thinking of a case where that would be a useful treatment.
It isn't, but for some reason therapists keep recommending it anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Feb 2015, 20:03
They get a discount on a group rate
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 20:05
Maybe the therapist is just a sociopathic asshole who thinks it'd be funny to do that to people?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Feb 2015, 20:07
Faye (or any of the other cast members) may have figured it out, or Emily may have spilled the beans to someone. And just nobody bothered to comment on it. But it's more likely (and conservation of comic reality) is that only Marten, Emily and the Agustus' know of that part of Claire's past.

I'm convinced that Tai has a solid hunch coupled with an exceptional command of gender etiquette. Faye probably has no idea.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 11 Feb 2015, 20:09
Tai probably thinks everything is wonderful. I don't think she knows, but she'd probably get even more excitable for awhile. I'm going under the assumption that only Marten, Emily and Claire's family know.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 11 Feb 2015, 20:15
I also don't think Tai knows, if she did, that wouldn't be confetti floating around, it'd be glass shards, because she squeeed so hard and loud that all the windows and light bulbs exploded.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 11 Feb 2015, 20:16
I think it also answers the question of whether Faye will go to AA or not.  I suspect that's what the being ogled by creepy old dudes comment was supposed to imply.

I seem to recall someone mentioning on the forums (or maybe on his Tumblr) that Jeph wasn't too keen on AA, so I suspect Faye will find some other support system(s).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 11 Feb 2015, 20:43
I think it also answers the question of whether Faye will go to AA or not.  I suspect that's what the being ogled by creepy old dudes comment was supposed to imply.

I seem to recall someone mentioning on the forums (or maybe on his Tumblr) that Jeph wasn't too keen on AA, so I suspect Faye will find some other support system(s).
Thus the 'old ogling men' comment.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 11 Feb 2015, 20:46
Thus the 'old ogling men' comment.

Hardly a problem unique to AA.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Vemocleus on 11 Feb 2015, 20:47
Support in the arms of Angus?  Still not too late.   Also, Hello!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 11 Feb 2015, 21:34
Hoi a hoi, new person!

Maybe not too late, but something tells me that Faye's refusal to even try to make things work probably put the kibosh on any chance of that happening. That, and once Angus and Faye finally got together, Angus lost his amusement factor. Methinks that the New York job was simply Jeph's way of giving him a permanent bus ticket.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 11 Feb 2015, 21:42
I feel like the art has been very "on" this week, particularly Monday and Tuesday's strips.

He probably kicked it up after friday's got some criticism. He drew a really emotive and cute Claire, but Marten's room looked pretty bad, especially before he redid the bed. And today and two days ago we've got the apartment shown from multiple angles. So, good job on his part I think.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: wlewisiii on 11 Feb 2015, 21:59
Faye (or any of the other cast members) may have figured it out, or Emily may have spilled the beans to someone. And just nobody bothered to comment on it. But it's more likely (and conservation of comic reality) is that only Marten, Emily and the Agustus' know of that part of Claire's past.

I'm convinced that Tai has a solid hunch coupled with an exceptional command of gender etiquette. Faye probably has no idea.

I think I agree with both of them. But I also wonder if Veronica Reed would know as well - given her employment and exposure to a very diverse cross section of humanity?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: miados on 11 Feb 2015, 22:01
I feel bad about the fact I am curious how claire looks where we aren't allowed to see. I mean it isn't so i can fantasize but I am curious, but i only got curious because of the comic she stripped down....... sigh I'm a bad person.

anyway I am glad faye dumped out the booze she had hidden away. shows some growth.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 11 Feb 2015, 22:11
I feel bad about the fact I am curious how claire looks where we aren't allowed to see. I mean it isn't so i can fantasize but I am curious, but i only got curious because of the comic she stripped down....... sigh I'm a bad person.

Still creepy, rude/disrespectful, and it's discussion that is not only extremely frowned upon, but is can also get you banned depending on what's said. If you haven't read the Discussion of private parts (https://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,30194.0.html) topic already, it is something you really, really should.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 11 Feb 2015, 22:13
I think I agree with both of them. But I also wonder if Veronica Reed would know as well - given her employment and exposure to a very diverse cross section of humanity?

This is a surprisingly (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379) complicated (http://www.reddit.com/r/questionablecontent/comments/17zogt/script_of_todays_comic_changed_a_lot_after_the/) topic (http://jephjacques.com/post/42417653403/on-rewriting-comics)!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: wlewisiii on 11 Feb 2015, 22:21
I think I agree with both of them. But I also wonder if Veronica Reed would know as well - given her employment and exposure to a very diverse cross section of humanity?

This is a surprisingly (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379) complicated (http://www.reddit.com/r/questionablecontent/comments/17zogt/script_of_todays_comic_changed_a_lot_after_the/) topic (http://jephjacques.com/post/42417653403/on-rewriting-comics)!

Interesting! I vaugely remember that change but didn't think of it that way.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 Feb 2015, 22:31
As long as you act on the knowledge that it's the kind of curiosity you need to suppress.

Welcome, new and sort of new people!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 11 Feb 2015, 22:54
I think it also answers the question of whether Faye will go to AA or not.  I suspect that's what the being ogled by creepy old dudes comment was supposed to imply.

I seem to recall someone mentioning on the forums (or maybe on his Tumblr) that Jeph wasn't too keen on AA, so I suspect Faye will find some other support system(s).
It's not always helpful.  IMO, the idea of any "slip" being considered a full-blown relapse may lead people to just say "sod it" and fall back into the bottle.  There's also the religion angle, which makes many feel uncomfortable.  I went to a few ACOA (adult children of alcoholics) meetings, and rather than help me deal with my family, all the made me want to do is head to the nearest bar and drink myself silly.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dalillama on 11 Feb 2015, 23:08

It's not always helpful.  IMO, the idea of any "slip" being considered a full-blown relapse may lead people to just say "sod it" and fall back into the bottle.  There's also the religion angle, which makes many feel uncomfortable.  I went to a few ACOA (adult children of alcoholics) meetings, and rather than help me deal with my family, all the made me want to do is head to the nearest bar and drink myself silly.
A friend once said something similar about the AA meeting he went to; he said he'd never in his life needed a drink more than leaving that meeting.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 11 Feb 2015, 23:28
It doesn't help that a lot of people who are in A* are not there by choice, don't want to be there, and it kinda defeats the whole purpose.  I remember smoking outside a bar one night with a friend, and a couple of people we were drinking with.  It was around midnight, and one of the guys looks at his watch and says "sorry, we had better get going, we have an AA meeting tomorrow".  When I replied "lemme guess, court-ordered", they said yeah.  I have done the whole group therapy thing at times in the mental hospital, and there was always someone who just didn't want help, fucked it up for everyone else, and lead me to walk out because I didn't want to deal with their toxic influence.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 23:31
I guess that my mind works in different ways from that of other people's but, to me, the significant thing in this comic is how comfortable Faye is with Marten's new girlfriend. Even though she has had a recent break-up that was so painful that it came close to destroying her, Faye has no problem opening up to Claire. She even apologises for snapping, wonder of wonders!

To me, this indicates that Faye really does approve of Claire; it wasn't just the drink talking. It also seems to support the theory that Claire is going to have her own, significant role in the next phase of Faye's life.

On the subject of art styling, I think Jeph may have used an old reference for Claire. It seems to be an older version of the character from around the wedding arc.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 11 Feb 2015, 23:35
On the subject of art styling, I think Jeph may have used an old reference for Claire. It seems to be an older version of the character from around the wedding arc.

What specifically about the art makes you think its an older version?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 11 Feb 2015, 23:41
On the subject of art styling, I think Jeph may have used an old reference for Claire. It seems to be an older version of the character from around the wedding arc.

What specifically about the art makes you think its an older version?

Body shape mostly. Jeph generally makes her look slightly more curvy these days. Although I admit it could be just because she's wearing a black tee that's several sizes too big.

[edit]
And thanks, valkygrrl! The hoop earrings are something else from an older character model. As best as I remember, she only wore them after just getting her ears pierced.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 11 Feb 2015, 23:53
Wasn't Claire wearing stud earring last night? Where'd the hoops come from?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 11 Feb 2015, 23:57
Wasn't Claire wearing stud earring last night? Where'd the hoops come from?

From a place they call . . . the Twilight Zone (cue spooky music).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Orkboy on 12 Feb 2015, 00:40
I was going to suggest that maybe she has a lot of piercings we couldn't see and just swapped them out, but then I realized people would do callbacks to the ear-piercing arc and then I would have to explain that I was joking.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 12 Feb 2015, 00:43
Regarding AA:

AA is by default religious, and its strict methods are... look, they claim to be the only method that works, but secular rehabilitation centers that actually keep and release documented evidence seem to have a much higher, comparative, success rate.

Courts mandating AA specifically, rather than a program of the defendant's choosing -- within a court-approved list of course -- that's more than this bullshit option strikes me as... I mean...

Christ. It's forcing religion on people through a court action. That's about as unconstitutional as you can get.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 00:47
Wasn't Claire wearing stud earring last night? Where'd the hoops come from?

They're Marten's. He wears them all the time, you just don't see them.  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 00:50
Regarding AA:

AA is by default religious, and its strict methods are... look, they claim to be the only method that works, but secular rehabilitation centers that actually keep and release documented evidence seem to have a much higher, comparative, success rate.

Courts mandating AA specifically, rather than a program of the defendant's choosing -- within a court-approved list of course -- that's more than this bullshit option strikes me as... I mean...

Christ. It's forcing religion on people through a court action. That's about as unconstitutional as you can get.

That's not entirely right. Part of the 12 steps is giving yourself over to a higher power, yes, but that higher power can be anything. Friends, family, volunteer work, it's supposed to be something larger than yourself. This is often God for for religious people, but it does not have to be.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Feb 2015, 00:50
As the courts have found before in *many* lawsuits.  But it still keeps happening.  With things like addiction, if there are underlying problems, addressing those goes a long way in dealing with it, as does CBT.  Switzerland has also shown a degree of success with using drugs such as LSD and MDMA *in the context of intense therapy* as well.  Truth is, most addicts are self-medicating for something.  There is a role for support groups, so people can share experiences and helping one another, I've never seen 12 step programmes do anything else but indoctrinate people.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 12 Feb 2015, 01:42
Regarding AA:

AA is by default religious, and its strict methods are... look, they claim to be the only method that works, but secular rehabilitation centers that actually keep and release documented evidence seem to have a much higher, comparative, success rate.

Courts mandating AA specifically, rather than a program of the defendant's choosing -- within a court-approved list of course -- that's more than this bullshit option strikes me as... I mean...

Christ. It's forcing religion on people through a court action. That's about as unconstitutional as you can get.

That's not entirely right. Part of the 12 steps is giving yourself over to a higher power, yes, but that higher power can be anything. Friends, family, volunteer work, it's supposed to be something larger than yourself. This is often God for for religious people, but it does not have to be.
Can my higher power be potato chips? I love me some potato chips. And dip. French onion dip.

Dammit, now I'm hungry.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 01:51
Now that I'm thinking about it - Faye is way nicer than I would have thought, after coming out of the hospital. The only time where she kind of snapped at somebody was at Hanners, after the exaggerated reaction to her refusing to ask for her job back.
Otherwise - she was nice to Marten (even thanked him!), and opens up to Claire immediately. Kind of bothers me, since Faye didn' t open up to her best friends (Marten... Hanners.. before that happened, Dora) and now it's all puppies and sunshine and easy?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 01:58
Now that I'm thinking about it - Faye is way nicer than I would have thought, after coming out of the hospital. The only time where she kind of snapped at somebody was at Hanners, after the exaggerated reaction to her refusing to ask for her job back.
Otherwise - she was nice to Marten (even thanked him!), and opens up to Claire immediately. Kind of bothers me, since Faye didn' t open up to her best friends (Marten... Hanners.. before that happened, Dora) and now it's all puppies and sunshine and easy?

Most people are pretty nice after they realize they put their friends through a lot.



And no Omega, you can't eat your higher power! Unless it's big enough to last for a really long time. And you have enough for everyone. Did you bring enough for the rest of the class?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 02:09
Yeah, that explains Marten (not Hanners), but certainly not Claire - what 'relationship' have those two? Claire insulted Faye once, Faye threatened her with violence, Faye encouraged her to go out with Marten... that's not the kind of friendship she has with Hanners. I would have liked her to open up to Hanners or Marten, since, yeah, we need the exposition to know where it's going, but Claire's the wrong person.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Feb 2015, 02:16
Now that I'm thinking about it - Faye is way nicer than I would have thought, after coming out of the hospital. The only time where she kind of snapped at somebody was at Hanners, after the exaggerated reaction to her refusing to ask for her job back.
Otherwise - she was nice to Marten (even thanked him!), and opens up to Claire immediately. Kind of bothers me, since Faye didn' t open up to her best friends (Marten... Hanners.. before that happened, Dora) and now it's all puppies and sunshine and easy?

I think that today's strip actually makes it very clear that Faye is trying to turn over a new leaf and be a different and, perhaps, better person (at least by her view on the subject). For that reason, I expect her to be very overtly and unsubtly OOC at some occasions with a suitably shocked reaction from everyone else. It's the usual over-reaction you would expect from someone who has just been through a life-changing and mostly self-inflicted trauma the way Faye has.

As for her response to Claire? Claire is Marten's new girlfriend and she doesn't want to be rude and ruin things for him by scaring her off. This isn't like Dora, with whom she had a pre-existing friendship and who understood her quirks. She knows that she needs to tread carefully with Claire for Marten's sake. FWIW, I suspect that Claire may shock her with just what a good friend she can be if she's given a chance.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Feb 2015, 02:20
Sometimes it is easier to open up to someone who's not super close. I get the feeling that's what happening between Faye and Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 02:24
On a different note, it's good that Faye's a bit preoccupied with her own problems.  Otherwise, she might have asked Claire what she needed a support group for... 

Not that she'd react really badly, but I imagine a spittake would be involved since she's still working on her coffee. 

You know, the other outcome I thought of is that Faye might ask Claire for recommendations for support groups, thinking that Claire herself might have gone through alcoholism (Faye may have even noticed that Claire possibly didn't drink any alcohol during the baby duck "incident"). At which point Claire might have to explain that her support groups were for something very different, and that may result in her coming out to Faye... (But I don't think Claire will.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 02:33
Sometimes it is easier to open up to someone who's not super close. I get the feeling that's what happening between Faye and Claire.

I can honestly say that the worst experiences of my life were talked about with people whom I don't know very well (besides my older brother's death, but I certainly couldn't leave my family in the dark, or leave them alone for that matter).

My abandonment issues, depression, anxiety, break-ups, surgeries, the almost being murdered, all of those were talked with with people who weren't that close to me. I act a certain way around those close to me, I never feel comfortable breaking it, but somehow talking to people I only kinda know makes it easy for me to open up. Kinda like right now! What's up everyone!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 02:37
[Edited for brevity]

I think that today's strip actually makes it very clear that Faye is trying to turn over a new leaf and be a different and, perhaps, better person (at least by her view on the subject). For that reason, I expect her to be very overtly and unsubtly OOC at some occasions with a suitably shocked reaction from everyone else. It's the usual over-reaction you would expect from someone who has just been through a life-changing and mostly self-inflicted trauma the way Faye has.
That might be very true - I hope at least a little bit of it sticks ;) It really wouldn't hurt Faye to be a tad nicer overall.

As for her response to Claire? Claire is Marten's new girlfriend and she doesn't want to be rude and ruin things for him by scaring her off. This isn't like Dora, with whom she had a pre-existing friendship and who understood her quirks. She knows that she needs to tread carefully with Claire for Marten's sake. FWIW, I suspect that Claire may shock her with just what a good friend she can be if she's given a chance.
Okay, her being nice makes sense, but she could have just made smalltalk. Deep, life-changing discussions are a topic for friends or her therapist.

Claire-Faye-Friendship: I hope it doesn't happen; Claire has too much focus on her as it is. Hanners would be a much better fit for that, especially since she has shown that she can handle pissed-off-Faye. Also, the last thing Faye needs right now is a judgemental friend in her life.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Feb 2015, 02:50
As for her response to Claire? Claire is Marten's new girlfriend and she doesn't want to be rude and ruin things for him by scaring her off. This isn't like Dora, with whom she had a pre-existing friendship and who understood her quirks. She knows that she needs to tread carefully with Claire for Marten's sake. FWIW, I suspect that Claire may shock her with just what a good friend she can be if she's given a chance.

Okay, her being nice makes sense, but she could have just made smalltalk. Deep, life-changing discussions are a topic for friends or her therapist.

I understand what you're saying but I think it's worth bearing in mind Faye's likely mental and emotional state. She's got all this weighing on her mind and she needs to let it out before her head metaphorically pops open. She isn't so much confiding in Claire as she is venting to the first available ear.

FWIW, if Claire hadn't been there, she could have just as likely ended up  talking to Pintsize! :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 02:53
FWIW, if Claire hadn't been there, she could have just as likely ended up  talking to Pintsize! :-P

Now that is scary. But it would be kind of funny... 

I'll see myself out :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Feb 2015, 03:22
We still haven't seen Pintsize since Faye's meltdown, have we?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: anahata on 12 Feb 2015, 04:27
As for her response to Claire? Claire is Marten's new girlfriend and she doesn't want to be rude and ruin things for him by scaring her off. This isn't like Dora, with whom she had a pre-existing friendship and who understood her quirks. She knows that she needs to tread carefully with Claire for Marten's sake.

Faye may well feel guilty about rejecting and otherwise mistreating Marten when they first met, despite all of which Marten has been a consistent loyal friend. She owes him a lot of favours, and certainly wouldn't want to mess up Marten's love life by being nasty to Claire.

Anyway, I've always though of Faye as a strong person whose heart's in the right place, despite frequent destructive impulses. Not easy to live with, but not fundamentally evil at all.

Edit: spelling typo
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: dexeron on 12 Feb 2015, 05:47
I think I agree with both of them. But I also wonder if Veronica Reed would know as well - given her employment and exposure to a very diverse cross section of humanity?

This is a surprisingly (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2379) complicated (http://www.reddit.com/r/questionablecontent/comments/17zogt/script_of_todays_comic_changed_a_lot_after_the/) topic (http://jephjacques.com/post/42417653403/on-rewriting-comics)!

Wow, I never saw that before:

Jeph: "A common mistake people make when writing is to assume that the writer’s intent automatically trumps all other interpretations. That’s not actually how it works. Different interpretations can be just as valid as that of the author, and this can get you into deep trouble if you’re careless."

Yes, OMG, this, yes.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Feb 2015, 05:54
Now, I never went to AA (dealing with my father's alcoholism keeps me from ever having more than one or two drinks at a time, and even then rarely. I don't want to go down the same road as to much of my family) but I did attend Al-Anon for several months. While I did appreciate being able to get out things that I'd kept bottled up for to long to a group that understands, I was very uncomfortable with all of the Higher Power stuff. Sure they keep repeating (way to often) that it doesn't have to be God as your higher power.. it's pretty clear that's what is meant here. I don't like how they work on stripping away both responsibility and agency from the people who go. "You are not at fault for drinking/abusing substances/being around someone who did. And you are powerless to fix things yourself. So just shuck it all and trust in your higher power." uhhh.. No thanks. I may not be responsible for what other people have done, but I sure am responsible for what I do. And things aren't going to get any better if you don't act to make them better. I think that's why so many people I met told how they've been in Al-Anon for years...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: phyllis on 12 Feb 2015, 05:57
I was wondering if Faye still feels a bit guilty over her role in the Dora/Marten break-up. I realise that it wasn't her fault, but she was still a factor, and very aware of that. I wonder if she is specifically making an effort to have a positive instead of a detrimental effect on the Claire/Marten relationship.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: anahata on 12 Feb 2015, 07:28
I was wondering if Faye still feels a bit guilty over her role in the Dora/Marten break-up.

That's a possibly even better version of my theory about Fay feeling guilty.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: miados on 12 Feb 2015, 07:42
I am glad this means I will never personally experience what faye is right now, but sometimes I wish I could drink. I mean I used to technically be able to, but to me alcohol is foul tasting. My doctor told me it is common for people with my sort of tongue to hate that and coffee though which is another thing I dislike the taste of.

bah off topic. Anyway I am proud of faye for working on her issue even if it took her nearly dying to do so. I mean if martin had not shown up when he did I think she would have died, but to be honest as this is a comic and she is a main character I didn't think it was likely. If this was tv it would have been more likely at least in my opinion.

now for claire and martin I am glad their relationship is moving well and to be honest I can relate to having sex when something horrible has happened recently. I lost my virginity because of something bad happening in my life. In my case it was my friend trying to make me feel loved after trying to kill myself. I just hope it works out better for them than it did me. I mean I think they make a good couple and they were in a relationship unlike my situation. blah I am gonna shut up now before I ramble to much.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Feb 2015, 08:26
I think it also answers the question of whether Faye will go to AA or not.  I suspect that's what the being ogled by creepy old dudes comment was supposed to imply.

I seem to recall someone mentioning on the forums (or maybe on his Tumblr) that Jeph wasn't too keen on AA, so I suspect Faye will find some other support system(s).
It's not always helpful.  IMO, the idea of any "slip" being considered a full-blown relapse may lead people to just say "sod it" and fall back into the bottle.  There's also the religion angle, which makes many feel uncomfortable.  I went to a few ACOA (adult children of alcoholics) meetings, and rather than help me deal with my family, all the made me want to do is head to the nearest bar and drink myself silly.

Yeah, I had to talk someone down after they had a beer one night. One beer. Let me emphasize: one single, solitary beer. Took a while to get through to him that he hadn't blown five years of sobriety (and that with one beer, it's likely he hadn't even put much of a dent in that day's sobriety).

The religion angle bothers me as well, especially when you take it in tandem with the AA belief that you're powerless over your addiction. The former because AA ends up way too close to being a cult for comfort, and the latter because it essentially removes any agency from the addict, which not only reinforces the cult logic, but also makes it a lot harder to own up to your actions and make the changes you need to make.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Thrillho on 12 Feb 2015, 08:35
Everything I've read about AA makes me loathe it. Especially the religious aspect. I'm agnostic at worst and atheists in day to day life (heavy emphasis) make me angrier than religious folks, but this is about getting healthy, God shouldn't be a factor, and giving up the responsibility of you getting better to God is negligent either way.

But yeah if I hadn't managed to resolve that 'one cigarette doesn't mean the day is fucked' then I would never have quit smoking, although I'm only five months into that to be fair.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 08:45
I'm agnostic at worst and atheists in day to day life (heavy emphasis) make me angrier than religious folks

I am an atheist, and I still find a lot of atheists incredibly annoying. Thankfully not many of the people that I have to interact with much personally, but the kind of misogynistic brotheists who seem to love to make youtube videos are pretty much the worst. Don't even get me started on the so-called "New Atheists."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Feb 2015, 08:53
I'm agnostic at worst and atheists in day to day life (heavy emphasis) make me angrier than religious folks

I am an atheist, and I still find a lot of atheists incredibly annoying. Thankfully not many of the people that I have to interact with much personally, but the kind of misogynistic brotheists who seem to love to make youtube videos are pretty much the worst. Don't even get me started on the so-called "New Atheists."

I don't mind standard-issue atheists (full disclosure, I'm an agnostic myself). It's the fundamentalist atheists (Dawkins, Hitchens, et al) that drive me batty... though that isn't really limited to atheists. I have a hard time with fundamentalism regardless of who it comes from.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: dexeron on 12 Feb 2015, 09:16
I'll second (3rd? 4th?) the annoyance with atheists (especially the New Atheists,) and I say that as an atheist myself.  I'm not annoyed at their "fundamentalism" (I'm not sure what's meant by that) but by the fact that they're so often tone-deaf to real issues of inequality and suffering (case in point, Dawkins constantly putting his foot in his mouth re: feminism.)

Atheists who've embraced humanism and feminism, on the other hand, I tend to get along with great. :)

---

So this isn't totally off-topic: I'm glad to see that Faye at least recognized that she snapped at Claire there, and apologized.  Part of me wonders if she's going to be a little hyper-aware of these things going forward as some kind of overcompensation to her previous abrasiveness.  While trying to be a better friend is laudable, I also kind of worry that it's not healthy if she were to become too self-critical, because I think there are underlying self-esteem issues, and being a better person doesn't always mean treating yourself like a worm.

(Which is why I'm glad she has such supportive friends!)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 09:26
Yeah, Dawkins is an asshole even when he is right, and he's often wrong.

And thankfully certain former members aren't here to start flamewars over the whole atheism vs. agnosticism argument. Personally, I'd describe myself as agnostic, or in the terminology that was decided in that argument, agnostic atheist. I wouldn't be surprised if there is something over us, but I also wouldn't be surprised if there was, and we haven't seen conclusive evidence that there is something over us (and the attempts at "conclusive" evidence have been debunked). Therefore, functionally, I'm an atheist, but if I see plausible evidence that contradicts that, I will cease to be one.

Contrast with people like Dawkins, for whom atheism is a religion - they'd be atheist in a D&D universe where there's conclusive evidence of multiple gods, for instance.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Feb 2015, 09:35
Is there enough interest to justify starting a thread in Discuss about alcoholism treatment?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 12 Feb 2015, 09:56
And no Omega, you can't eat your higher power! Unless it's big enough to last for a really long time. And you have enough for everyone. Did you bring enough for the rest of the class?
But there's plenty of potato chips for everyone!




... they just have to buy their own  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: joran on 12 Feb 2015, 10:02
The strip where Claire and Faye and chatting, and Faye realizes that maybe Angus wants to move to NYC and so he's floating the idea to her. Faye says something like, "how could I not realize that?" and Claire goes, "I don't know, are you kind of dumb?"

This doe-eyed don't-be-mean Claire seems like a completely different character than that girl. It's like she got kawaii'd somewhere in there.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 10:03
Keep in mind that Claire didn't know about Faye's violent streak during that scene.

Now she does, and she also knows that Faye's been through hell recently.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 10:04
I'll second (3rd? 4th?) the annoyance with atheists (especially the New Atheists,) and I say that as an atheist myself.  I'm not annoyed at their "fundamentalism" (I'm not sure what's meant by that) but by the fact that they're so often tone-deaf to real issues of inequality and suffering (case in point, Dawkins constantly putting his foot in his mouth re: feminism.)

Exactly. It's not that the New Atheists are any more strongly atheist than other atheists (although they are certainly more smug and confrontational about it), its that they use their atheism to excuse or justify their terrible, reactionary politics.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Feb 2015, 11:06
Keep in mind that Claire didn't know about Faye's violent streak during that scene.

Now she does, and she also knows that Faye's been through hell recently.

I've also kind of thought that Claire had been in the CoD often enough to see how they are interact that. Casually abusive towards one another, more often than not. So she just was trying to fit in with that comment.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dalillama on 12 Feb 2015, 11:10


Contrast with people like Dawkins, for whom atheism is a religion - they'd be atheist in a D&D universe where there's conclusive evidence of multiple gods, for instance.
Not that I'm one to defend Dawkins, what with him being such an asshole, as others have noted above, but that's entirely unfair to him.  He's categorically stated that if anyone showed him actual evidence of divinity, he would accept it and change his tune.  No one has, because such evidence doesn't exist, but that's another matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 11:59
He's categorically stated that if anyone showed him actual evidence of divinity, he would accept it and change his tune.

That really seems to me like the only logical position that an atheist could take. Of course, if you could show evidence of a god, whether or not I'd actually worship it would be an entirely different question.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: KevxD on 12 Feb 2015, 14:15
I'd just like to point out that, technically speaking (http://actok.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Agnostic+v+Gnostic+v+Atheist+v+Theist.png), being an agnostic says nothing about what you believe in, just your conviction as to that belief. Most atheists are agnostic atheists.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 14:24
As long as no one acts like a dick because of what they believe everyone can believe whatever the fudge they want :D

Now excuse me while I go force feed homeless people church crackers.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 12 Feb 2015, 14:47
The strip where Claire and Faye and chatting, and Faye realizes that maybe Angus wants to move to NYC and so he's floating the idea to her. Faye says something like, "how could I not realize that?" and Claire goes, "I don't know, are you kind of dumb?"

This doe-eyed don't-be-mean Claire seems like a completely different character than that girl. It's like she got kawaii'd somewhere in there.

My interpretation of what she said then was that she pulled a Clinton and blurted out something stupid, rather than being actively confrontational. I don't think there's necessarily a contradiction there if that's the case.

And even if that's not the case there's still the possibility she can dish it out but not take it. Kinda like that old strip where Raven hurts Faye's feelings.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Feb 2015, 15:34

You know, the other outcome I thought of is that Faye might ask Claire for recommendations for support groups, thinking that Claire herself might have gone through alcoholism (Faye may have even noticed that Claire possibly didn't drink any alcohol during the baby duck "incident"). At which point Claire might have to explain that her support groups were for something very different, and that may result in her coming out to Faye... (But I don't think Claire will.)

Yanno, I was wondering if someone was gonna pick up Occam's Razor about Claire's "support group."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: EyelessoozeGuy on 12 Feb 2015, 15:58

You know, the other outcome I thought of is that Faye might ask Claire for recommendations for support groups, thinking that Claire herself might have gone through alcoholism (Faye may have even noticed that Claire possibly didn't drink any alcohol during the baby duck "incident"). At which point Claire might have to explain that her support groups were for something very different, and that may result in her coming out to Faye... (But I don't think Claire will.)

Yanno, I was wondering if someone was gonna pick up Occam's Razor about Claire's "support group."

I was wondering if Faye knows about Claire or not. I assume by your speculation that she does not.
is there a list of all the people that Claire is out to? I know Clinton and Marten, but I'm not sure about anyone else.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 16:04
Emily and Marten are the only people that we know of outside of her family. (The rest of the list is Clairemom and Clinton - we don't even know if her dad knows.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 12 Feb 2015, 16:06
People who know:
1. Marten.
2. Emily.
3. Clinton (obviously).
4. Claire's mom (also obviously).
5. Claire's dad (though not as obvious).

People who might know:
1. Tai (as her employer).
2. Smif College admissions.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 16:13
Wonder how telling people is going to work out. If she does it in a group, a person now and then or perhaps not at all. Also wonder if anyone is going to (surprisingly) have a problem with it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: KevxD on 12 Feb 2015, 16:22
I'd guess they'll all be fine with it (at least on the surface), but at the same time, might ask Marten if he's really ok with it when Claire's out of earshot. Could be a point of conflict of Marten feels offended by this.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 16:24
I'd guess they'll all be fine with it (at least on the surface), but at the same time, might ask Marten if he's really ok with it when Claire's out of earshot. Could be a point of conflict of Marten feels offended by this.

I agree. Given how this group has been portrayed, if this does become a point of conflict, it will probably be because of ignorance and subconscious preconceptions rather than explicit bigotry.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 16:26
I mean you certainly assume everyone would be okay with it based with what we know about the characters (at least the more main ones), but most of them never breached the topic before so you never know. For instance, there are many very liberally-minded people who have a problem with Transgendered people (and of course evangelical conservatives, but I'm almost sure none of the cast is a conservative).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 16:27
What about Beatrice? Or maybe Jimbo?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 16:30
Well Beatrice is basically a caricature and Jimbo... I mean, he's not really friends with them so much. But he could be anything, we don't know exactly what he's like, just because he's redneckish doesn't mean he can't be a liberal.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 16:33
What about Beatrice? Or maybe Jimbo?

Hard to say. Since they're very peripheral characters, they probably wouldn't find out until most of the rest of the cast has known for a while, if ever. By that point, the main cast members who don't already know will likely have had time to get over any issues they might have. In this situation, if Beatrice or Jimbo do end up having a problem with it, they could get rebuked fairly quickly. At least, that's how I would expect things to play out. I could be completely wrong.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 16:39
Could I just want someone to have a problem with it? I'm not sure, it would be interesting to see how the group handles that when one them is surprising unaccepting of a transgendered person.

But, I like conflict I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 12 Feb 2015, 16:41
I'd guess they'll all be fine with it (at least on the surface), but at the same time, might ask Marten if he's really ok with it when Claire's out of earshot. Could be a point of conflict of Marten feels offended by this.

I agree. Given how this group has been portrayed, if this does become a point of conflict, it will probably be because of ignorance and subconscious preconceptions rather than explicit bigotry.

Funnily enough, I can see Steve being the most chill about Claire. Possibly some conflict from Penelope, given her familial background.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 16:44
Funnily enough, I can see Steve being the most chill about Claire. Possibly some conflict from Penelope, given her familial background.

I can see what you mean about Penelope. I'm curious why Steve would be the most chill, though.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 16:45

Funnily enough, I can see Steve being the most chill about Claire.

Steve'd probably just be like, "okay that's cool, but you didn't answer me, did you do her yet?" Bro.

EDIT- lemme expand. Because the others may make a big deal about it because they think it'd be awesome, Steve would probably be like, "oh, that's neat."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 16:50
Steve'd probably just be like, "okay that's cool, but you didn't answer me, did you do her yet?" Bro.

EDIT- lemme expand. Because the others may make a big deal about it because they think it'd be awesome, Steve would probably be like, "oh, that's neat."

I guess I can see that. Steve's bro-ish tendencies just tend to cause me to judge him a bit more harshly than he may deserve.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Feb 2015, 16:52
The person who would be the most chill about it would be Dale, obviously. Because Dale is chill about everything. Almost everything, anyway.

The person I think would be most likely to say something unintentionally hurtful out of sheer obliviousness? Marigold. And I think Dale would not be chill about that. Nor would Momo. Or May, I expect. I can imagine all three of them giving Marigold a stern lecture about respecting other people.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 16:56
My prediction is that if Steve found out, he would come to some conclusions about Claire (which may or may not be right, but Jeph will not explicitly state - I'm not speculating about Claire here, to be clear), and may get jealous in a way that even surprises him, based on those conclusions (and a very incorrect assumption that Marten's dating Claire because she's trans, not because she's Claire).

(Mind you, it's my headcanon that Steve is bi, and actually has pretty strong feelings for Marten, but has been suppressing that.)

However, I think that that would have to happen off screen. And, to be honest, I really doubt that Claire would come out to Steve, and Marten's not going to out her to Steve.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Feb 2015, 17:01
I'll second (3rd? 4th?) the annoyance with atheists (especially the New Atheists,) and I say that as an atheist myself.  I'm not annoyed at their "fundamentalism" (I'm not sure what's meant by that) but by the fact that they're so often tone-deaf to real issues of inequality and suffering (case in point, Dawkins constantly putting his foot in his mouth re: feminism.)

Atheists who've embraced humanism and feminism, on the other hand, I tend to get along with great. :)


Clarifying, since you asked. Fundamentalism is traditionally defined as a literal, strict, and legalistic interpretation of scripture. It brooks no questions, no discussion, no doubts, and no deviation. "But wait," you say, "atheism has no gods, and ergo no scripture." Well, I'm getting to that part. I define fundamentalism somewhat more loosely. Reason being, if you look for a scriptural basis for much fundamentalist belief, it's either a huge stretch based on massive amounts of cherrypicking and reinterpretation, or it's just made up; in either case, it has no relation to scripture. So, in much the same way that Westboro Baptist Church, the Klan, ISIS, and others pick and choose their scripture to have a retroactive "godly" rationale for their reprehensible actions, so too do the New Atheists turn scripture of any sort (with the occasional exception of some Buddhist texts) into a strawman that bears little relation to faith as it's currently practiced. Moreover, like their other fundamentalist brethren, the New Atheists don't just (dis)believe in God; instead, you must disbelieve as completely, and in the same fashion, that they do (there's no hell, admittedly... just varying levels of juvenile snark and mockery). Likewise, they brook no argument, true discussion, or disagreement. Religion is evil, period, and must be eradicated.

Islam, of course, gets a "special" dispensation, since Harris, Dawkins an Hitchens (plus their ideological hangers-on) would like to see not only the religion but also its practitioners wiped out... in which respect, they're more like the Christians they'd otherwise be looking down their noses at than they'd care to admit. After all, fundamentalism makes strange bedfellows.

All of which is a long-ish way of saying, believe what you want, or don't, or doubt*, and I have no issue with you. But when you insist that others believe, or disbelieve, as you do, that's where I take issue.

*I think that whether you believe or not, agnosticism is a more reasonable approach than the certainty that goes with either theism or atheism, but that's a whole 'nother discussion, and this probably isn't the place for it.

Back to the comic:

The person who would be the most chill about it would be Dale, obviously. Because Dale is chill about everything. Almost everything, anyway.

The person I think would be most likely to say something unintentionally hurtful out of sheer obliviousness? Marigold. And I think Dale would not be chill about that. Nor would Momo. Or May, I expect. I can imagine all three of them giving Marigold a stern lecture about respecting other people.

Aside from a couple of times when he's been more direct than usual with May, have we seen an instance in which Dale wasn't chill? I can't think of any.

Regarding Marigold: I think you'd be right on the money if the situation played out that way, but I get the feeling that Jeph is trying to avoid having the comic go in that direction, letting the human characters' usual "be good to each other" message carry the day. I think that the Anthro-PC characters are his stand-ins for the times that he wants to explore things that get closer to actual rights issues (and blatant dick jokes).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Stanistani on 12 Feb 2015, 17:04
The person who would be the most chill about it would be Dale, obviously. Because Dale is chill about everything. Almost everything, anyway.

The person I think would be most likely to say something unintentionally hurtful out of sheer obliviousness? Marigold. And I think Dale would not be chill about that. Nor would Momo. Or May, I expect. I can imagine all three of them giving Marigold a stern lecture about respecting other people.
I feel that Pintsize would both be the most accepting and the most likely to make trouble.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Feb 2015, 17:07
It's really hard to tell how people will react when you come out to them. When I came out to my friends, some of the ones I was worried about due to their personality, upbringing or whatever reason were some of the most chill about it. And some who were not okay with it and wound up constantly and deliberately misgendering me and flat out refusing to accept my transition came from people who I figured would be totally okay. Even if it's something you discuss before as a hypothetical situation and they seemed okay with it, people can suddenly find things are very different when presented with it as a fact in person.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:09

Funnily enough, I can see Steve being the most chill about Claire.

Steve'd probably just be like, "okay that's cool, but you didn't answer me, did you do her yet?" Bro.

EDIT- lemme expand. Because the others may make a big deal about it because they think it'd be awesome, Steve would probably be like, "oh, that's neat."

"Sweet Bra, you got some trangender tail!... uh, what's transgender?"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Feb 2015, 17:15

Funnily enough, I can see Steve being the most chill about Claire.

Steve'd probably just be like, "okay that's cool, but you didn't answer me, did you do her yet?" Bro.

EDIT- lemme expand. Because the others may make a big deal about it because they think it'd be awesome, Steve would probably be like, "oh, that's neat."

Plot twist: Tortura is a trans* woman. Steve to Marten: "What took you so long?"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 17:24
"Best sex ever" High five
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:36
It's really hard to tell how people will react when you come out to them. When I came out to my friends, some of the ones I was worried about due to their personality, upbringing or whatever reason were some of the most chill about it. And some who were not okay with it and wound up constantly and deliberately misgendering me and flat out refusing to accept my transition came from people who I figured would be totally okay. Even if it's something you discuss before as a hypothetical situation and they seemed okay with it, people can suddenly find things are very different when presented with it as a fact in person.

I can see that...  Some people hate the idea of a certain group of people and make exceptions for the ones they choose to like. To make it more complicated, some people claim they are liberal minded, but still bare a visceral level of prejudice. "I'm not prejudice - I have black friends... but (insert very prejudice thing here)."

Warning - while you were typing, your own visceral level of prejudice was exposed. You may wish to review your post... and your life decisions.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Feb 2015, 17:36
Is there enough interest to justify starting a thread in Discuss about alcoholism treatment?

Shafting important issues elsewhere on a forum smacks more of ignoring it/sweeping it under the rug rather than actively trying to foster discussion. If an issue is brought up by a strip, it should be discussed in a place where people will commonly flock to afterwards (i.e. the WCDT threads).

I can see that...  Some people hate the idea of a certain group of people and make exceptions for the ones they choose to like. To make it more complicated, some people claim they are liberal minded, but still bare a visceral level of prejudice. "I'm not prejudice - I have black friends... but (insert very prejudice thing here)."

I'm not racist...I hate everyone.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:39
Is there enough interest to justify starting a thread in Discuss about alcoholism treatment?

Shafting important issues elsewhere on a forum smacks more of ignoring it/sweeping it under the rug rather than actively trying to foster discussion. If an issue is brought up by a strip, it should be discussed in a place where people will commonly flock to afterwards (i.e. the WCDT threads).

I can see that...  Some people hate the idea of a certain group of people and make exceptions for the ones they choose to like. To make it more complicated, some people claim they are liberal minded, but still bare a visceral level of prejudice. "I'm not prejudice - I have black friends... but (insert very prejudice thing here)."

I'm not racist...I hate everyone.

Wow... even the people you don't know yet? Just on principle? Dang...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 Feb 2015, 17:40
I imagine that May would be completely perplexed as to why Claire's status is a big deal to anyone. "You meat-people are so weird."

Momo would then give her a complete and detailed explanation of human gender issues, to which May would reply, "Like I said: Meat-people are weird."

And Momo would sigh and say, "Yes. Yes they are."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 12 Feb 2015, 17:41
"I don't want to sound racist but cereal tastes good. What, those two things don't have to be related."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:44
"I don't want to sound racist but cereal tastes good. What, those two things don't have to be related."

Lucky Charms... you racist!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Feb 2015, 17:45
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.




*Rainbow Dash is best dash.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:49
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Emperor Norton on 12 Feb 2015, 17:50
I can see that...  Some people hate the idea of a certain group of people and make exceptions for the ones they choose to like. To make it more complicated, some people claim they are liberal minded, but still bare a visceral level of prejudice. "I'm not prejudice - I have black friends... but (insert very prejudice thing here)."

Yeah, being cool with one marginalized group, or hell, even being in a marginalized group, doesn't mean you will be cool with every other marginalized group.

I had a friend of a friend who was a transwoman who was also super super homophobic. I was kind of dumbfounded when she started just trashing gay people. Needless to say, that is why she stayed a friend of a friend, and is not a friend.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Feb 2015, 17:53
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.

But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:54
I can see that...  Some people hate the idea of a certain group of people and make exceptions for the ones they choose to like. To make it more complicated, some people claim they are liberal minded, but still bare a visceral level of prejudice. "I'm not prejudice - I have black friends... but (insert very prejudice thing here)."
Yeah, being cool with one marginalized group, or hell, even being in a marginalized group, doesn't mean you will be cool with every other marginalized group.
I had a friend of a friend who was a transwoman who was also super super homophobic. I was kind of dumbfounded when she started just trashing gay people. Needless to say, that is why she stayed a friend of a friend, and is not a friend.

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/009/993/tumblr_m0wb2xz9Yh1r08e3p.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 17:55
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.

But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.

The original My Little Pony was better...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Feb 2015, 18:11
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.

But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.

The original My Little Pony was better...

Someone get me some hot tar and a big sack of feathers...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 18:15
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.
*Rainbow Dash is best dash.
Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.
But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.
The original My Little Pony was better...
Someone get me some hot tar and a big sack of feathers...

Good idea; tar and feather the lot of them and call them pegasi.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: OldGoat on 12 Feb 2015, 18:30
Emily and Marten are the only people that we know of outside of her family. (The rest of the list is Clairemom and Clinton - we don't even know if her dad knows.)
What do we know, if anything, about "Gus" (you know that's got to be the nickname his peers hung one him in college or the military) Augustus, Claire and Clinton's dad?  I don't recall a strip when Claire ever talked about him, but I've not kept notes, either.

I do recall her discussing being accustomed to looking after her own safety with Clinton.  I suspect Claire has a black belt.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Feb 2015, 18:37
That he cheated on Clairemom, and they got a divorce. And Claire's sensitive about that.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2371
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 12 Feb 2015, 18:41
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.

But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.

The original My Little Pony was better...

Someone get me some hot tar and a big sack of feathers...

Fired out of the party cannon?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 12 Feb 2015, 18:49
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.

But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.

The original My Little Pony was better...

Someone get me some hot tar and a big sack of feathers...

Fired out of the party cannon?

Sort of. (http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/say-hello-to-my-little-pony.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 12 Feb 2015, 19:11
LOOOOOM!


Also, good to see Pintsize back on his feet.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Feb 2015, 19:12
Sure this _is_ racist but it just has to be said. The 100 meter dash is an _inferior_ dash* and I just don't care if people know how I feel about that race.

*Rainbow Dash is best dash.

Saying that the Indy 500 is better than NASCAR is much more racist; you're more likely to cause a riot.

But it doesn't have the word dash so no My Little Pony joke.

The original My Little Pony was better...

Someone get me some hot tar and a big sack of feathers...

Fired out of the party cannon?

Sort of. (http://dailypicksandflicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/say-hello-to-my-little-pony.jpg)

I know exactly how to stop this argument:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Feb 2015, 19:16
Well, I guess whatever Faye did to Pintsize (presumably Faye anyway) wasn't serious and he just needed to be turned on/rebooted. On the other hand... I've never seen Pintsize intimidated before.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jmucchiello on 12 Feb 2015, 19:17
I didn't think Pintsize could read body language so well.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 12 Feb 2015, 19:19
Is this the first time we have seen Marten preemptively deal with Pintsize? If so that speaks well for the future of the good ship Clairten.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Feb 2015, 19:23
The art in the loom panel is particularly good. Even Marten's eyes which have been creepy as of late work in that drawing.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Feb 2015, 19:25
Well, I guess whatever Faye did to Pintsize (presumably Faye anyway) wasn't serious and he just needed to be turned on/rebooted. On the other hand... I've never seen Pintsize intimidated before.

Dora's cat scared the shit out of him.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 19:26
... even really chilled out guys have their look of death.  :-o
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Isyrion on 12 Feb 2015, 19:26
Damn, Marten is really creepy when in Loom Mode.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 12 Feb 2015, 19:27
I wonder how much Claire has been told about Pintsize, or perhaps a better way of putting it is how much Marten has warned her about Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: HannahRose on 12 Feb 2015, 19:30
Hehe I think that this may be my new favourite QC page ever. x)

Booming Voice: "There are lines even you must never cross, Pintsize."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 19:31
This is probably the only way to handle Pintsize tastefully... Anything else turns into an awkward and possible offensive sex joke.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: wlewisiii on 12 Feb 2015, 19:34
Hey, there's the pink pants again!

And I think Pintsize just got another reminder that this job is nearly completed. Now let's get him reassigned to Faye.

Warning - while you were typing a new reply has noted a different job assignment for Pintsize. You may wish to review your job center skills..
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 12 Feb 2015, 19:35
Standing up for the girl without saying a word....   even if it's to a little robot, it's damn sexy.   

If I wasn't before, I'm completely jealous now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 12 Feb 2015, 19:36
Sometimes, a preemptive 'looooom' is all that's needed to diffuse a potentially bad situation.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 19:36
Aww maaan... Pintsize is that easily intimidated? What happened to the guy who sent out pictures of equine molestation as a greeting? And what the hell is Marten threatening him with? (Isn't threatening to turn off an AnthroPC permanently like threatening to kill a sentient being?)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 12 Feb 2015, 19:39
It's the anthro-pc equivalent of having your heart plug pulled out by the Baron.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8OJ9vcbzZy4/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Chelicerate on 12 Feb 2015, 19:40
That's one powerful loom.

I don't think any bodily or mental harm was intended with the loom, Swapna. A cross look between friends often just means 'I am going to be very mad', and we know Pintsize does value Marten's friendship. There are probably lines he wouldn't cross if they'd meant enough to Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Feb 2015, 19:41
LOOOOOM!


Also, good to see Pintsize back on his feet.

Darn, I had a script in my head with Claire and Pintsize interacting, but it was too dialogue-heavy and Jeph can't read minds, so we get today's strip instead.  Still...

SCENE: Marten's living room.  He's left the room, CLAIRE is on the couch.  PINTSIZE wanders over.
PINTSIZE: Marten's really into you, you know.  I can tell.
CLAIRE: How?
PINTSIZE: Because he's absolutely terrified I'll say something offensive and will NOT. STOP. THREATENING ME with all kinds of punishment if I don't stay on my best behavior.  Afraid of losing you, I guess.  He was never like this with Dora...
CLAIRE: *blushes*
PINTSIZE: ...But he won't say WHY.  Now, I've got a vast collection of porn stored in here-- *taps head* --but you don't show up in any of it...
CLAIRE: Um...
PINTSIZE: ...although there are a few really weird folders I haven't checked yet.  Horses, donkeys, pooping catgirls.  You want some privacy, I get that, just say the word and I'll delete them, sight unseen.  I suppose there are some boundaries I can respect...
CLAIRE: I'm TRANS.
PINTSIZE: Oh.  That's it?
CLAIRE: Uh-huh.
PINTSIZE: And Marten thinks I'm going to tease you for that?  Listen, I'm a robot, gender's just streams of coding to me.  I may take pride in being crude, but I'm not completely insensitive.  You don't have anything to worry about from me.
CLAIRE: Thanks, Pintsize.
PINTSIZE: But, uh, I don't want Marten to think I'm losing my touch, so feel free to throw me against the wall when he gets back.
CLAIRE: What?  No!  I wouldn't do that!
PINTSIZE: Oh, good.  Thanks.
CLAIRE: *smiles*
PINTSIZE: Still wanna make out?
CLAIRE: *throws Pintsize against the wall*

...And that's why Jeph is the cartoonist and I'm just here on the forums.

Warning - while you were typing 15 new replies have been posted. You should really just give up now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Oenone on 12 Feb 2015, 19:53
Keep in mind that Claire didn't know about Faye's violent streak during that scene.

Now she does, and she also knows that Faye's been through hell recently.

IDK, I guess I miss sassy Claire. In my head canon, Claire's had to develop a barbed tongue to defend herself and her brother, because of her gender identity, his general weirdness, and whatever family dynamics led to her instant judgment of Tai. The meekness is weird to me, because it doesn't match her age in my head (she's in an MA program) or her earlier personality. Playing the ingenue doesn't suit her.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Feb 2015, 19:55
*His* weirdness?  (meaning Clinton) She's (meaning Claire) odd enough on her own, and that has nothing to do with her gender identity.

Edited for clarity.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 19:56
That's one powerful loom.

I don't think any bodily or mental harm was intended with the loom, Swapna. A cross look between friends often just means 'I am going to be very mad', and we know Pintsize does value Marten's friendship. There are probably lines he wouldn't cross if they'd meant enough to Marten.

Probably, but judging by the lines he did cross, that just seems like a very easy workaround to Pintsize's usual dickjokes.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 12 Feb 2015, 19:59
*His* weirdness?  She's odd enough on her own, and that has nothing to do with her gender identity.

Actually, I find her character pretty normal. Maybe a little socially inept, but over all well adjusted. No - Hannelore is weird... but in a good way.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zalder on 12 Feb 2015, 19:59
Has Pintsize ever harassed Hanners before?  I know he has really bugged Faye and Dora, but I can't recall him pushing Hannelore's buttons.  I think the guy reserves his A material for opponents he deems at his level. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 12 Feb 2015, 20:00
I think the "his weirdness" was in reference to Claire's brother.  Not someone misgendering Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: HannahRose on 12 Feb 2015, 20:00
Aww maaan... Pintsize is that easily intimidated? What happened to the guy who sent out pictures of equine molestation as a greeting? And what the hell is Marten threatening him with? (Isn't threatening to turn off an AnthroPC permanently like threatening to kill a sentient being?)

I don't think that it's a matter of him being intimidated. Instead I think it's a matter of him understanding just how grave a violation of trust and personal space it would be for him to pursue that particular topic. I mean the little guy might be a bit of a sadist who enjoys messing with people, but he's not without decency, and he does actually care about Marten and his friends, albeit in his own strange way sometimes. :P

Plus there's the fact that Marten rarely draws a line with Pintsize. Because of that, on the rare occasion that Marten does put his foot down, Pintsize probably understands that he's super duper serious, and he'd better not push it. lol
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ASB84 on 12 Feb 2015, 20:03
That's one powerful loom.

I don't think any bodily or mental harm was intended with the loom, Swapna. A cross look between friends often just means 'I am going to be very mad', and we know Pintsize does value Marten's friendship. There are probably lines he wouldn't cross if they'd meant enough to Marten.

Probably, but judging by the lines he did cross, that just seems like a very easy workaround to Pintsize's usual dickjokes.

I was thinking that myself. If it were that easy, how come it hasn't happened sooner?

Still, it's an amusing visual.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Feb 2015, 20:12
I think the "his weirdness" was in reference to Claire's brother.  Not someone misgendering Claire.

Aye, it was.  The being odd just seems to run in the family.

Edit:  Fixed my previous post for cliareity  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rimwolf on 12 Feb 2015, 20:13
Has Pintsize ever harassed Hanners before?  I know he has really bugged Faye and Dora, but I can't recall him pushing Hannelore's buttons.  I think the guy reserves his A material for opponents he deems at his level.

Creeped out again (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=730)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Feb 2015, 20:15
Boris Karloff would be proud.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 12 Feb 2015, 20:19
Surely this isn't the first time Claire and Pintsize have met.

And when did Marten take up weaving?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 12 Feb 2015, 20:21
Are you all forgetting when Pintsize paddled  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2459)Claire?

And just look at how happy the little guy is!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Feb 2015, 20:22
when did Marten take up weaving?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mojo on 12 Feb 2015, 20:31
when did Marten take up weaving?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34

Ironic that the rimshot doesn't actually hit the RIM.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Natswash on 12 Feb 2015, 20:41
... even really chilled out guys have their look of death.  :-o
Beware the Nice Ones indeed (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BewareTheNiceOnes) <<< TVTropes Warning
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Feb 2015, 20:55
And just look at how happy the little guy is!
Forget Pintsize, look at Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Oenone on 12 Feb 2015, 20:57
I think the "his weirdness" was in reference to Claire's brother.  Not someone misgendering Claire.

Sorry! I was referring to her brother being weird. I'm thinking about Claire having to constantly protect/defend her bro because of Clinton's magic ability to alienate people.

ETA: Like, Claire's got her quirks, but Clinton actually pisses people off. I see Claire as someone who's got enough spunk to say "Hey, my bro is a douche but only I get to insult him!" to her friends and his... frenemies?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DillyDolly on 12 Feb 2015, 21:18
IT'S A DREAM! PINTSIZE IS REALLY IN ROBOT HEAVEN (OR HELL)!!!

......

......

......

Just kidding. But I really would like to know what the hell happened to him. Also, the use of perspective and colors is trippy (in a good way). Wonder what he was going to ask her?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Orkboy on 12 Feb 2015, 21:19
... even really chilled out guys have their look of death.  :-o

Especially the chill guys.  We store intimidation points for later use.  All humans naturally generate intimidation points, and while some people increase the generation rate, some of us make use of the fact that there is no cap on your reserves.  Nerd Rage uses a similar mechanic. 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Feb 2015, 21:27
Incidentally, someone asked a couple of pages back (or maybe last week or something) about how much Claire knew about Faye's back story. Go back one comic from the one above.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Feb 2015, 21:28
I don't think that it's a matter of him being intimidated. Instead I think it's a matter of him understanding just how grave a violation of trust and personal space it would be for him to pursue that particular topic. I mean the little guy might be a bit of a sadist who enjoys messing with people, but he's not without decency, and he does actually care about Marten and his friends, albeit in his own strange way sometimes. :P

Plus there's the fact that Marten rarely draws a line with Pintsize. Because of that, on the rare occasion that Marten does put his foot down, Pintsize probably understands that he's super duper serious, and he'd better not push it. lol

Does Pintsize even know Claire is transgendered? Aside from the paddling (the only known instance that Claire has met Pinysize), has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 21:28
IDK, I guess I miss sassy Claire. In my head canon, Claire's had to develop a barbed tongue to defend herself and her brother, because of her gender identity, his general weirdness, and whatever family dynamics led to her instant judgment of Tai. The meekness is weird to me, because it doesn't match her age in my head (she's in an MA program) or her earlier personality. Playing the ingenue doesn't suit her.

It doesn't feel that out of character to me. I feel like Claire has always had both a sassy, snarky side and a more shy, vulnerable side, which come out in different situations. That's part of what I relate to about her character, because I also tend to swing between those types of behavior depending on the situation I'm in.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Quantum Glass on 12 Feb 2015, 21:39
Oh, he's alive.

Y'know, funny thing is, I can't actually imagine Pintsize doing anything to deserve whatever happened to him. He's a little troll, sure, but he always tried to help Marten when the guy felt down.

Mind, he wasn't good at it, but he always tried, and I can't imagine him (Deliberately) angering Faye, given the current circumstances.

Which is...problematic. Friends don't break friends.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Feb 2015, 21:44
Friends don't break friends.

It's a good thing that he doesn't seem to be broken, then. Or affected at all, for that matter.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 12 Feb 2015, 21:46
Well, I guess whatever Faye did to Pintsize (presumably Faye anyway) wasn't serious and he just needed to be turned on/rebooted. On the other hand... I've never seen Pintsize intimidated before.

Dora's (sorta) intimidated him before. (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=149)

...and if that's a borrowed shirt it's probably best that she didn't wear (one of) the THE shirts Marten has*, that might be worse than sharing the same plumage (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=618)

*And before you get the nitpicking hats on I'm fully aware that Claire has one already.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 12 Feb 2015, 21:51
Y'know, funny thing is, I can't actually imagine Pintsize doing anything to deserve whatever happened to him. He's a little troll, sure, but he always tried to help Marten when the guy felt down.

Mind, he wasn't good at it, but he always tried, and I can't imagine him (Deliberately) angering Faye, given the current circumstances.

I think he tried to get Faye to stop drinking before she hurt herself, and she turned him off when he wouldn't leave her alone.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Feb 2015, 21:53
... even really chilled out guys have their look of death.  :-o

Especially the chill guys.  We store intimidation points for later use.  All humans naturally generate intimidation points, and while some people increase the generation rate, some of us make use of the fact that there is no cap on your reserves.  Nerd Rage uses a similar mechanic.

You know, I can identify... While never precisely a guy I've been told that at times when I get really angry I can be really, really scary without meaning to. I've apparently cut of a few fights from happening back in high school just by giving people the cold stare. Of course, then there is what happen when I go right past 'really angry' and into full on 'hulk rage' mode....
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Feb 2015, 21:56
I don't think that it's a matter of him being intimidated. Instead I think it's a matter of him understanding just how grave a violation of trust and personal space it would be for him to pursue that particular topic. I mean the little guy might be a bit of a sadist who enjoys messing with people, but he's not without decency, and he does actually care about Marten and his friends, albeit in his own strange way sometimes. :P

Plus there's the fact that Marten rarely draws a line with Pintsize. Because of that, on the rare occasion that Marten does put his foot down, Pintsize probably understands that he's super duper serious, and he'd better not push it. lol

Does Pintsize even know Claire is transgendered? Aside from the paddling (the only known instance that Claire has met Pinysize), has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?

Pintsize likely doesn't know, and I seriously doubt if Marten would've said anything. It's usually a pretty serious breach of trust to out someone who's not out already.

Friends don't break friends.

It's a good thing that he doesn't seem to be broken, then. Or affected at all, for that matter.

I get the feeling that Faye probably shut Pintsize off, not wanting to be talked out of drinking herself into oblivion.

IDK, I guess I miss sassy Claire. In my head canon, Claire's had to develop a barbed tongue to defend herself and her brother, because of her gender identity, his general weirdness, and whatever family dynamics led to her instant judgment of Tai. The meekness is weird to me, because it doesn't match her age in my head (she's in an MA program) or her earlier personality. Playing the ingenue doesn't suit her.

It doesn't feel that out of character to me. I feel like Claire has always had both a sassy, snarky side and a more shy, vulnerable side, which come out in different situations. That's part of what I relate to about her character, because I also tend to swing between those types of behavior depending on the situation I'm in.

I'm with Dark Matter on this one. The snark is a defense mechanism. She's able to trust Marten, and so she's able to show a side of her personality that'd normally be encased in snark. She's not playing the ingenue so much as just letting her hair down. If she is, or feels, threatened, that barbed tongue will come back in a heartbeat.

I could be projecting, to a degree -- when I have a mind to, I can be opaque to people I don't know or trust. But the way she's acting now isn't so much out of character as another facet of the person she already is, and has been.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 12 Feb 2015, 22:30
I don't think that it's a matter of him being intimidated. Instead I think it's a matter of him understanding just how grave a violation of trust and personal space it would be for him to pursue that particular topic. I mean the little guy might be a bit of a sadist who enjoys messing with people, but he's not without decency, and he does actually care about Marten and his friends, albeit in his own strange way sometimes. :P

Plus there's the fact that Marten rarely draws a line with Pintsize. Because of that, on the rare occasion that Marten does put his foot down, Pintsize probably understands that he's super duper serious, and he'd better not push it. lol

Does Pintsize even know Claire is transgendered? Aside from the paddling (the only known instance that Claire has met Pinysize), has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?

Claire has only come out to Marten and Emily.  Of course all the main characters will be nothing less than accepting of Claire, because Jeph can't write a character whom doesn't reflect his own worldview without turning that character into a strawman.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: swapna on 12 Feb 2015, 22:31

I'm with Dark Matter on this one. The snark is a defense mechanism. She's able to trust Marten, and so she's able to show a side of her personality that'd normally be encased in snark. She's not playing the ingenue so much as just letting her hair down. If she is, or feels, threatened, that barbed tongue will come back in a heartbeat.

I could be projecting, to a degree -- when I have a mind to, I can be opaque to people I don't know or trust. But the way she's acting now isn't so much out of character as another facet of the person she already is, and has been.

I think a lot of us can relate - we're snarky when defending ourselves. But the comment to Faye was mean - not snarky, but clearly mean, and not as answer to something Faye said to attack her, but in relation to Faye's personal life.
And this after Faye was more than nice - she invited her over for beer and pizza! Someone she barely knows. I don't think Claire felt threatened at all, it was just part of her personality until it was decided that she should be all cute and moe and squee all the time.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesariojpn on 12 Feb 2015, 22:40
Claire has only come out to Marten and Emily.  Of course all the main characters will be nothing less than accepting of Claire, because Jeph can't write a character whom doesn't reflect his own worldview without turning that character into a strawman.

Are you advocating Pintsize can't be the "dirty joke troll" just to serve as a morality pet about why you shouldn't be trans-phobic/offensive?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Feb 2015, 22:49
has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?

Would you?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 12 Feb 2015, 22:54
Answers just about every Pintsize question we were making except how long he was powered down and how far along the situation was when that happened. Marten's look is the visual equivalent of "choose your next words wisely".
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Vulture051 on 12 Feb 2015, 23:09
Jeph sure does make a lot of comics talking about that thing we're not allowed to talk about...  :claireface:  :-\
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: slydon on 12 Feb 2015, 23:10

Are you advocating Pintsize can't be the "dirty joke troll" just to serve as a morality pet about why you shouldn't be trans-phobic/offensive?
Pintsize is basically 4chan with a heart.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Feb 2015, 23:24
Given that, as long as their offline storage is intact, AIs are effectively immortal, I'm not surprised to see that Pintsize is okay. That said, being hard to kill doesn't make you hard to hurt and Pintsize has been dented, duct-taped to the wall and locked away enough times before to know when he is on thin ice. Those self-preservation protocols are rarely used but they clearly work!

Key learning for today:
What was Pintsize about to say? He's probably got recordings of Dora and Padma and was going to ask if Marten made Claire make any of those noises. It's a comparative study; all in the name of Science, you know! :wink:

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Fix'd typo
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Feb 2015, 23:32
What was Pintsize about to say? He's probably got recodings of Dora and Padma and was going to ask if Marten made Claire make any of those noises. It's a comparative study; all in the name of Science, you know! :wink:

Tell me, what- about a three way.

That's my head-canon anyway.

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Feb 2015, 00:05
It was probably just: Tell me, what- do you want for breakfast?  :angel:

Of course, Pintsize got the message from Marten: Don't mess with his girlfriend's diet!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 00:24
Jeph sure does make a lot of comics talking about that thing we're not allowed to talk about...  :claireface:  :-\

BECAUSE REASONS.

Ahem. Because, reasons.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: AprilArcus on 13 Feb 2015, 00:33
Jeph sure does make a lot of comics talking about that thing we're not allowed to talk about...  :claireface:  :-\

BECAUSE REASONS.

Ahem. Because, reasons.

(http://i.imgur.com/MN0yAl0.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Feb 2015, 00:39
Is there enough interest to justify starting a thread in Discuss about alcoholism treatment?

Shafting important issues elsewhere on a forum smacks more of ignoring it/sweeping it under the rug rather than actively trying to foster discussion. If an issue is brought up by a strip, it should be discussed in a place where people will commonly flock to afterwards (i.e. the WCDT threads).

Basically, this thread, and this part of the forum, is for discussing the comic.  Once a particular discussion takes on a life of its own, separate from the specific story in the strip, it is appropriate that it moves to the part of the forum made for such discussions.  The rest of the forum is not "under the rug"; indeed it's far easier to find a thread on "Alcoholism" than discover where in which "WCDT" such a matter might be talked about.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Feb 2015, 00:47
...and if that's a borrowed shirt it's probably best that she didn't wear (one of) the THE shirts Marten has*, that might be worse than sharing the same plumage (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=618)

She has, you may recall, a TEH shirt of her own which she rejected wearing on a previous occasion.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 00:54
Everyone has one though, go ahead, open your closet, it's in there.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: neurocase on 13 Feb 2015, 00:57
My favorite takeaway from this strip, even above Marten's LOOOOM, is that Pintsize, even with his lack of appendages, can do some approximation of shaking someone's hand. The earnest "double-hand shake" no less.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Feb 2015, 01:19
Well, he's a natural at shaking things...  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hakko504 on 13 Feb 2015, 01:22
Jeph sure does make a lot of comics talking about that thing we're not allowed to talk about...  :claireface:  :-\

BECAUSE REASONS.

Ahem. Because, reasons.

(http://i.imgur.com/MN0yAl0.png)
That looks like a very thin book

Sent from my Xperia Z3

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Feb 2015, 01:26
I'm wondering if we're going into a new Claire arc. Prevously, Claire was a secondary supporting character - one of Marten's co-workers and a friend who got about as much on-screen attention as Tai, Marigold and Dale and mostly for the same reason (to introduce the character).

However, Claire's circumstances have changed. She's now a primary character's (Marten's) girlfriend and, IMO at least, on a fast track to becoming his life partner in the way Dora was for a while. So, Claire now has to develop links within the 'Marten' circle as well as the extant ones in the 'Library' circle. Because of this, Jeph has some character building to do. He has to iron out some of Claire's relationships by introducing her to the rest of Marten's inner circle (Dora, Faye, Pintsize, Hannelore and possibly Steve) who, previously, only knew her through Marten and through low-level interaction at parties.

I can see this 'getting to know Marten's new girlfriend' arc extending for a few months IRL as Jeph sorts out both the serious and silly aspects of Claire's interactions with Marten's closest friends.

Or, alternately, he could do what we're possibly seeing now and just literally give a single strip for every new character with whom Claire needs to have an established contact. :-P
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Feb 2015, 01:30
Or let those interactions happen along the way, somewhat in the background of whatever constitutes the "real" action. We'll see.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Feb 2015, 02:32
Does Pintsize even know Claire is transgendered? Aside from the paddling (the only known instance that Claire has met Pinysize), has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?

That's an interesting question and I think that the answer is 'it depends'. Marten has certainly never told him. However, he may have means of determining this sort of thing that humans don't have and that I can see Pintsize flagrantly abusing. For example, what if he has an ultrasound sonar sense, intended to let him find lost stuff that's fallen down the back of sofas or are buried at the bottom of drawers? Such might let him see through clothes and skin and detect any signs of surgical reconstruction or other anatomical anomalies.

Of course, having the ability and lack of personal boundaries to find out doesn't mean that he would tactlessly reveal. We know that Pintsize has more of a social conscience than to which he publicly will confesses; he would be more than aware that trans people face prejudice and I think he would have hard-coded behavioural red lines (similar to Asimov's First Law) that would prevent him from talking about her status in mixed company without her permission.

However, I wonder if the same hard-coded safety protocol would impel Pintsize to discuss this matter privately with Claire to get her instructions and ensure she is being honest with Marten. Because he would be impelled to protect Marten from possible harm too.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Feb 2015, 03:29
Everyone has one though, go ahead, open your closet, it's in there.

Oh, indeed, I have one - and a Pintsize hoody, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 13 Feb 2015, 03:51
I'm gonna say that Pintsize doesn't have any such senses. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been trying so hard to get a direct optical wavelength look at Faye's breasts in various comics, or require Marten to describe them to him after the one incident where he saw them.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Akima on 13 Feb 2015, 04:00
If Marten ever becomes a fighter pilot, his code-name should be Weaver.

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Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Feb 2015, 04:19
..and if that's a borrowed shirt it's probably best that she didn't wear (one of) the THE shirts Marten has*, that might be worse than sharing the same plumage (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=618)

*And before you get the nitpicking hats on I'm fully aware that Claire has one already.

It's obvious what kind of shirt he wears on occasions like this.

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Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 Feb 2015, 04:29
The first TEH shirt I bought was indeed that make (but the smaller one I bought later was another).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TheCaffeinatedPanda on 13 Feb 2015, 04:34
Does Pintsize even know Claire is transgendered? Aside from the paddling (the only known instance that Claire has met Pinysize), has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?
course, having the ability and lack of personal boundaries to find out doesn't mean that he would tactlessly reveal. We know that Pintsize has more of a social conscience than to which he publicly will confesses; he would be more than aware that trans people face prejudice and I think he would have hard-coded behavioural red lines (similar to Asimov's First Law) that would prevent him from talking about her status in mixed company without her permission.

However, I wonder if the same hard-coded safety protocol would impel Pintsize to discuss this matter privately with Claire to get her instructions and ensure she is being honest with Marten. Because he would be impelled to protect Marten from possible harm too.

Jeph said in a QA dump ages ago that AI in the QCverse has full autonomy, which means that Asimov's laws of robotics don't apply.
That said, Pintsize had that discussion with Momo in which he actually seriously discussed being a companion AI, so I should imagine he has the sense to leave it alone. I think it's been mentioned before, but with the way AnthroPC gender works, I doubt it'd really even cross his mind as something to be insensitive about.

(Hi everyone, new to the forum, long time reader, etc)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 13 Feb 2015, 04:35
(Hi everyone, new to the forum, long time reader, etc)
Greetings and Salutations!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 13 Feb 2015, 04:41
It is worth noting that there's a paradigm shift in how QC handles issues like that, and the discussion of how AI gender works may well have been invalidated by that shift, considering that it's an owner-adjustable setting, and Jeph appears to have conflated sex and gender at that time to an extent: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=347

If I had to guess, the AI civil rights laws most likely made it illegal for an owner to change an AI's gender setting against the AI's express consent. (And, based on other QC comics that were also pre-AI civil rights, that setting change most likely comes with the attendant personality changes. Or, is the gender setting actually a "kinda sorta sex" setting, that basically sets the AI's "hormonal balance"? If that's the case, it's very possible for a trans AI to exist, and changing a "gender" setting against an AI's will would be sheer torture I'd guess, not just an involuntary mindswap, essentially.)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Endellion on 13 Feb 2015, 04:43
...and if that's a borrowed shirt it's probably best that she didn't wear (one of) the THE shirts Marten has*, that might be worse than sharing the same plumage (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=618)

She has, you may recall, a TEH shirt of her own which she rejected wearing on a previous occasion.

Well aware of that :D (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2791). I'm a bit of a whore for linking old strips to my comments, but I thought that adding a third to a relatively short post was a bit much. Hence the nitpick comment in the small text at the bottom of my last response.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: dexeron on 13 Feb 2015, 06:01
LOOM!

Loom loom loom loom loom!

Looooooom!

Loom loom LOOM!

loom
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Feb 2015, 06:04
Great. Now I'm hearing "loom" repeated as the lyrics to the Imperial March from Star Wars.

And now you are too. You're welcome.  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 13 Feb 2015, 06:17
Pintsize is basically 4chan with a heart.

It's not his heart, he doesn't need it and it came postage due, but still!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: ronbo on 13 Feb 2015, 06:48
I just started reading Questionable Content.  I started with the last few hundred strips and then went back to the beginning.  I still have about 1,000 strips to go.  I just got to the point where Dora moved in with Marten and Faye.

The one thing the strikes me about today's strip is that Marten has never felt the need to do anything other than warn people about Pintsize.  Even Hanners, with all of her problems, didn't provoke such a protective reaction from Marten.

Dora never needed Marten's protection.  She is a strong, independent woman that is more than capable of defending herself from anything.

Does Marten somehow see Claire as more delicate?  That he needs to intervene with Pintsize?  I'm not sure that is a particularly good thing.

Every relationship is different.  Marten has clearly shown that he is more confident and assertive in this relationship, and that's a nice development, but this has me wondering that he may feel that Claire is not up to certain challenges.  That she is something less than a loving and equal partner.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Martok on 13 Feb 2015, 06:55
LOOM!

Loom loom loom loom loom!

Looooooom!

Loom loom LOOM!

loom

LOL!  Couldn't have said it better myself. 

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Feb 2015, 06:56
The one thing the strikes me about today's strip is that Marten has never felt the need to do anything other than warn people about Pintsize.  Even Hanners, with all of her problems, didn't provoke such a protective reaction from Marten.

Dora never needed Marten's protection.  She is a strong, independent woman that is more than capable of defending herself from anything.

Does Marten somehow see Claire as more delicate?  That he needs to intervene with Pintsize?  I'm not sure that is a particularly good thing.

I'm not sure if it's seeing Claire as 'delicate' as such (although Marten might be worried that Pintsize might accidentally strike some delicate and only recently-healed scars).

I think that you're right about 'every relationship being different'. Possibly it is because Marten himself has been changing since the time he dated and later lived with Dora. In any case, he does seem to be investing a lot more, emotionally, in his relationship with Claire and is being generally more proactive in most areas.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 08:09
I'm going with BenRG on this.   I don't think Marten thinks Claire is more delicate.   I think he cares more than he has in the past.   I think many of us could say we've been in relationships we just sort of fell into, rather than built.   In that aspect I think Marten recognizes that what he is building with Claire seems much more important than those of the past.   

That said there's quite possibly some part of him that wants to be more protective, understanding that Claire has likely been through a lot.   I don't think it has so much to do with thinking one is unequal in the relationship, but more like, since he cares so much, being protective and mindful of her feelings and knowing Pintsize, he wanted to stem that before it happened.    Frankly I think it's sweet, and I'm immensely jealous of a fictional character (who I swear is not me only cause I don't know Jeph).

Does Pintsize even know Claire is transgendered? Aside from the paddling (the only known instance that Claire has met Pinysize), has Marten even told Pintsize this fact?

I don't think he does, so not sure what he was going to say.   

FYI, "transgendered" isn't really a word.   Transgender is an adjective, not a verb.   That'd be kinda like saying "Did you know Dora was Femaled".    I know that might seem picky and I'm not upset at all, but I figure you'd rather know.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: wlewisiii on 13 Feb 2015, 08:32
Another vote for BenRG on this matter.

Marten realizes he's got a keeper this time, possibly lifelong, and that changes your perspective on what is and isn't acceptable around your better half. He's grown and changed over nearly 3000 strips; it's about time is all I can say.  Then add to this the whole idea that Pintsize's mission really is almost over...   ?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Isyrion on 13 Feb 2015, 08:38
cause I don't know Jeph).

FYI, "transgendered" isn't really a word.   Transgender is an adjective, not a verb.   That'd be kinda like saying "Did you know Dora was Femaled".    I know that might seem picky and I'm not upset at all, but I figure you'd rather know.  :claireface:

Ok Weird Al's "World Crimes" just came to mind on that one.

Anyways, good to see no lasting ill effects on Pintsize from the Night of the Drunken Faye.  Second it great to see Marten get into Pintsize's robotic ass a bit on how he treats people, even if its to preempt a comment on Claire.  Three its also nice to see Marten willing to stand up for Claire (even if its to a robot that he could easily dismantle and be done with it).  Can't wait until next weeks strips.

Now what would I like to see in next couple of week strips. 
1.  Faye apologizing to Dora (yes Dora deserves one) after she has come to terms with what happened and only after seeing the Doc again.
2.  Dora reciprocating (reluctantly) then talking about what happened and then asking what Faye plans to do (keeping Faye fired however)
3.  Faye then asking to use the welding space in the back (maybe with the added bonus of giving Dora a small bit of cash from each project for using the space) and also asking if Dora knows of places where she can get a steady job (Dora being a business owner should at least know a few places, any owner with his or her salt would have networked a bit with other local businesses in order to help and or establish partnerships).
4. Pintsize starting to help Faye a bit with her issues (in his own chaotic way).  It has been established that Pintsize does care a bit about her (holding a party to get donations so she can get a dresser and other stuff comes to mind).

Any my two cents, back to lurking.
 
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Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 08:51
Ok Weird Al's "World Crimes" just came to mind on that one.

Anyone that is inspired to think of Al needs to do more than lurk....  :)  TY! (It's actually in my head all the time now when people use that)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: dilbert719 on 13 Feb 2015, 08:55
Jeph sure does make a lot of comics talking about that thing we're not allowed to talk about...  :claireface:  :-\

BECAUSE REASONS.

Ahem. Because, reasons.

(http://i.imgur.com/MN0yAl0.png)
That looks like a very thin book

Sent from my Xperia Z3

It's a 500 page long book. Every page is just the word "HANNERS" typed over and over again.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 13 Feb 2015, 08:59
Thanks, now that song is stuck in my head.  Not that that's a bad thing, mind you, it just means I have to blare the CD when I get off of work now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kona on 13 Feb 2015, 09:01
FYI, "transgendered" isn't really a word.   Transgender is an adjective, not a verb.   That'd be kinda like saying "Did you know Dora was Femaled".    I know that might seem picky and I'm not upset at all, but I figure you'd rather know.  :claireface:

I feel you on this and a lot of other language issues, being something of a prescriptivist myself.  However, I think the ship has pretty much sailed on stopping this type of perversity.

Edit:  Not a prescriptionist, dammit.  Thanks, autocorrect!
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Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 09:07
I feel you on this and a lot of other language issues, being something of a prescriptionist myself.  However, I think the ship has pretty much sailed on stopping this type of perversity.

You know, I'd be happy if people stopped using "are" when they mean "our".   That makes me want to gouge my eyes out with an olive fork.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 13 Feb 2015, 09:08
People who swap "lose" and "loose" make me want to loose them into the wild so I can lose them.
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Post by: K1dmor on 13 Feb 2015, 09:16
 (http://i.imgur.com/AzIQAsY.jpg)
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Post by: Aziraphale on 13 Feb 2015, 09:20
Another vote for BenRG on this matter.

Marten realizes he's got a keeper this time, possibly lifelong, and that changes your perspective on what is and isn't acceptable around your better half. He's grown and changed over nearly 3000 strips; it's about time is all I can say.  Then add to this the whole idea that Pintsize's mission really is almost over...   ?

I'm with Ben on this, too, and Snarkyone's assertion that this is something built versus accidental. He seems more invested in this relationship. I'm not sure that either of them are thinking lifelong, but Marten, at least, is a lot more focused in the here-and-now than we've seen him in a long time (possibly ever).

Mission over? Not sure about that. Yes, he's mentioned that his role in Marten's life is different than it was and that he can kick back a bit now. But what we've seen in-comic about AIs is that their existence isn't quite that utilitarian; they have inner lives, friendships, et cetera, so even if Marten doesn't "need" Pintsize the way he used to, they're still friends.

And now I'm thinking Star Trek, and wondering what Pintsize's next five-year mission will be...

(PS: Howdy, presumed fellow Clash/Strummer fan!)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Cattus on 13 Feb 2015, 09:39
People who swap "lose" and "loose" make me want to loose them into the wild so I can lose them.
For me it's the misuse of their and there, to mean they're that sets me off.  But I'm in a 12 step program now to help me curb these murderous rages against poor grammar.  I also no that mi grammer and speling is oftn lousey but that doesnt stop me from getting angri.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Feb 2015, 09:43
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHdWl4RCIAI8dE6.jpg)
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Post by: wlewisiii on 13 Feb 2015, 09:54
And now I'm thinking Star Trek, and wondering what Pintsize's next five-year mission will be...

Oh, I _like_ that way of phrasing it.

Quote
(PS: Howdy, presumed fellow Clash/Strummer fan!)

Well, let's just say my Telecaster may not be painted black but it does have that sticker smack on it :)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 13 Feb 2015, 09:55
Ok Weird Al's "World Crimes" just came to mind on that one.
Anyone that is inspired to think of Al needs to do more than lurk....  :)  TY! (It's actually in my head all the time now when people use that)

The other day, I first heard the original version of that song... I had a hard time thinking of it as the "original" version and Weird Al's as the "cover."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 10:22
(http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1329536683249_5521957.png)

The other day, I first heard the original version of that song... I had a hard time thinking of it as the "original" version and Weird Al's as the "cover."

And that's why Al is so good.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Fig on 13 Feb 2015, 10:23
Ok Weird Al's "World Crimes" just came to mind on that one.
Anyone that is inspired to think of Al needs to do more than lurk....  :)  TY! (It's actually in my head all the time now when people use that)

The other day, I first heard the original version of that song... I had a hard time thinking of it as the "original" version and Weird Al's as the "cover."

Weird Al's songs tend to have that effect.  Oh lookee here, there's even a trope for this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeirdAlEffect 
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 13 Feb 2015, 11:20
Ok Weird Al's "World Crimes" just came to mind on that one.
Anyone that is inspired to think of Al needs to do more than lurk....  :)  TY! (It's actually in my head all the time now when people use that)

The other day, I first heard the original version of that song... I had a hard time thinking of it as the "original" version and Weird Al's as the "cover."

Weird Al's songs tend to have that effect.  Oh lookee here, there's even a trope for this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeirdAlEffect

Well, you learn something new every day!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 13 Feb 2015, 13:42
Welcome, new people!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Feb 2015, 13:56
You know, I'd be happy if people stopped using "are" when they mean "our".   That makes me want to gouge my eyes out with an olive fork.

Why do you want to do that? Gouge there eyes out instead.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 14:03
You know, I'd be happy if people stopped using "are" when they mean "our".   That makes me want to gouge my eyes out with an olive fork.

Why do you want to do that? Gouge there eyes out instead.

........ their.......  RAWR!!!   (mainly because it's my eyes that have to see these atrocities!!)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Feb 2015, 14:16
But if you remove your eye's, then you can't see the useful things too.
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Feb 2015, 14:18
They'ire

Enjoy that one. :)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 13 Feb 2015, 14:19
It doesn't bother me if it's deliberate, only when apathy is its cause.
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Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 14:21
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/3f8a3f484e02aa649fc928a199dd4140/tumblr_mh6im7PLhq1rln8zro4_250.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Feb 2015, 14:27
Wut?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 14:33
Implying that the use of the incorrect word was deliberate, and keeping up with Jon Stewart's bit....  it makes sense.   

Give this a watch, might fill in the gaps.

http://videos.huffingtonpost.com/tech/jon-stewart-vs-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-517653613
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DonInKansas on 13 Feb 2015, 14:33
Loom?

(http://www.weavespindye.org/media/wysiwyg/avlloomrfts.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Euthemes on 13 Feb 2015, 14:36
Here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=639) is another effective threat against Pintsize *CRASH*
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 13 Feb 2015, 14:40
Marten's looming is rather reminiscent of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2002 and Momo looming over Pintsize in her new chassis before proceeding to bash him in the head repeatedly.  (The media seriously under-reports AI on AI violence)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DonInKansas on 13 Feb 2015, 14:41
Marten's looming is rather reminiscent of http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2002 and Momo looming over Pintsize in her new chassis before proceeding to bash him in the head repeatedly.  (The media seriously under-reports AI on AI violence)

HURF DURF HURF DURF
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 13 Feb 2015, 14:42
But if you remove your eye's, then you can't see the useful things too.

Grr, you keep that up and there won't be enough of you left to do a DNA test.
Bad grammar and misspelling are some of my biggest pet peeves.
I was almost an English teacher. Didn't have the patience for it though.


Last warning - while you were typing you realise that time is running out. You may wish to stop listening to Apollo 440 on repeat.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Feb 2015, 14:44
Everyone has one though, go ahead, open your closet, it's in there.

Yep. Got one. Redball (if he was still actively posting) could attest to this.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Feb 2015, 14:49
I just started reading Questionable Content.  I started with the last few hundred strips and then went back to the beginning.  I still have about 1,000 strips to go.  I just got to the point where Dora moved in with Marten and Faye.

Uh oh. Things went downhill fast from that point, relationship wise... Hang on to your feels.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 13 Feb 2015, 14:52
Grr, you keep that up and there won't be enough of you left to do a DNA test.

I dont know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 15:32
Sometimes, just to annoy people I talk like a 12 year old pothead.

What I meant to say is yoloswag420 1v1mebitch
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: MooskiNet on 13 Feb 2015, 15:43
Sometimes, just to annoy people I talk like a 12 year old pothead.

What I meant to say is yoloswag420 1v2onemebitch

Guess I'm showing my age, but in MY day you had to wait until at least 14 before you could graduate to pothead.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 15:45
You guise was so unswag back then.
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Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 17:04
I helped invent LOL, which led to all your silly txt-speech....   


Peace mother-bitches!!!

 :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesariojpn on 13 Feb 2015, 17:15
Sometimes, just to annoy people I talk like a 12 year old pothead.

What I meant to say is yoloswag420 1v1mebitch

So, like a chav?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 17:17
I don't know what that is #imstillswagtho
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Post by: jwhouk on 13 Feb 2015, 17:23
#hashtagsarefortwitter
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 17:25
#yolo, brah

okay I'm done now, I can only act like that for so long before it stops being ironic.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: OldGoat on 13 Feb 2015, 17:32
Well, I guess whatever Faye did to Pintsize (presumably Faye anyway) wasn't serious and he just needed to be turned on/rebooted. On the other hand... I've never seen Pintsize intimidated before.
But then, we've never seen Marten take the initiative or be decisive about a relationship before.  When it comes to Claire, at least, Marten the Wishywashy is no longer.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 17:39
But then, we've never seen Marten take the initiative or be decisive about a relationship before.  When it comes to Claire, at least, Marten the Wishywashy is no longer.

Son .... of..  a... bitch....
... I think you just made me realize I'm attracted to the confident decisiveness.      ;)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Feb 2015, 17:55
You mean just like ever other human on the planet?
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Post by: cesium133 on 13 Feb 2015, 17:57
Aww crap, if nobody at all is attracted to wishywashiness, I'm doomed.
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Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 18:01
Aww crap, if nobody at all is attracted to wishywashiness, I'm doomed.

A lot of harem anime's seem to think those people exist.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Feb 2015, 18:03
I'm not entirely certain what genre my life is, but I'm pretty sure it's not a harem anime.
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Post by: Aziraphale on 13 Feb 2015, 18:04
But then, we've never seen Marten take the initiative or be decisive about a relationship before.  When it comes to Claire, at least, Marten the Wishywashy is no longer.

Son .... of..  a... bitch....
... I think you just made me realize I'm attracted to the confident decisiveness.      ;)

That meshes particularly well with your avatar.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 13 Feb 2015, 18:12
Aww crap, if nobody at all is attracted to wishywashiness, I'm doomed.

A lot of harem anime's seem to think those people exist.
The way most if those are set up though, the girls all have a 'reason' to hang around the guy in the first place and frequently an even worse option waiting "back home" for them to come back and enter an arranged marriage or something so I always figured they really weren't all that attracted to the guy as a person, just to the relative safety and stability he represents…
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Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Feb 2015, 18:21
The way most if those are set up though, the girls all have a 'reason' to hang around the guy in the first place and frequently an even worse option waiting "back home" for them to come back and enter an arranged marriage or something so I always figured they really weren't all that attracted to the guy as a person, just to the relative safety and stability he represents…

I thought it was for cheap rent so long as Mr. Roper doesn't catch on.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 18:27
You mean just like ever other human on the planet?


How dare you....   I mean you just suggested I was human like everyone else..    the horror... the... dignity... the equality.   I will tolerate this abuse much longer!!

(I realize now I forgot to add the  :clairedoge: face earlier to imply my sarcasm, this shall be my amends..)

 :clairedoge:
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Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Feb 2015, 18:36
Whaaaaaa? You mean you were being snarky before? Well, my mind is blown.  :psyduck:
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Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Feb 2015, 18:41
Damn, everyone's avatar is matching their posts today.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 18:42
Whaaaaaa? You mean you were being snarky before? Well, my mind is blown.  :psyduck:

OMG nothing makes sense anymore, up is left, down is right, cats are dogs, nickelback won best album at the grammys...
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 13 Feb 2015, 18:55
Claire has only come out to Marten and Emily.  Of course all the main characters will be nothing less than accepting of Claire, because Jeph can't write a character whom doesn't reflect his own worldview without turning that character into a strawman.

Are you advocating Pintsize can't be the "dirty joke troll" just to serve as a morality pet about why you shouldn't be trans-phobic/offensive?

The term you're looking for is "loveable bigot," but that's not what I had in mind.  I was thinking more along the lines of "closed-minded but subtle."
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 19:00
Damn, everyone's avatar is matching their posts today.

You ... have... no... idea.....

(http://i.imgur.com/XXTZUb5.png)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Feb 2015, 19:10
Glasses and a librarian t-shirt and you could cosplay her easy.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Feb 2015, 19:13
Damn, everyone's avatar is matching their posts today.

You ... have... no... idea.....

(http://i.imgur.com/XXTZUb5.png)

It's like Orphan Black but with redheads.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 19:29
It's like Orphan Black but with redheads.
I'M NOT A CLONE!!!!

I'm just a schizophrenic.   
And so am I. 
Shut up you!..
NEVER!!   
Dammit, get back in your box.

Glasses and a librarian t-shirt and you could cosplay her easy.  :claireface:
My glasses don't look like hers, be I do need new ones.   But I have to ask... what's a librarian t-shirt?  Is that like an accoutant t-shirt?   :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Feb 2015, 19:31
Damn, everyone's avatar is matching their posts today.

You ... have... no... idea.....

(http://i.imgur.com/XXTZUb5.png)

Not quite what I meant, but ... Daaaamn  :-o



Oh, hey my 500th post, yay!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 19:36
Not quite what I meant, but ... Daaaamn  :-o

I knew what you meant.   I was being.... ........    wait for it.......    snarky.

Eerie though right?   If I told you more, you'd swear Claire was based on me.   Creeps me out a bit and yet I am very drawn to what happens next with her.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Feb 2015, 19:39
But I have to ask... what's a librarian t-shirt?  Is that like an accoutant t-shirt?   :clairedoge:

This (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-BLINDED&Category_Code=QC)

I'd post a pic of me to show how much I look like my avatar, but that that'd be cheating since I modified one of Jeph's background characters to look like me (using MSpaint no less).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 19:45
I'm not really into the funny t-shirt thing, and maybe in 14 years Claire won't be either.   
But if I did do it... it'd probably be more like this (http://www.litographs.com/collections/t-shirts/products/faraday-tee).
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Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 13 Feb 2015, 19:49
Damn, everyone's avatar is matching their posts today.

... I think I need a new avatar.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 19:53
... I think I need a new avatar.

Depends on if you can answer this question correctly....    What's a pirate's favorite letter?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Schmee on 13 Feb 2015, 20:10
Some say a pirate's favourite letter be 'R'.
Some say that it be 'P', that bein' an 'R' with a leg missin'.
But they're wrong, for a pirate's true love will always be the 'C'.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 20:12
Some say a pirate's favourite letter be 'R'.
Some say that it be 'P', that bein' an 'R' with a leg missin'.
But they're wrong, for a pirate's true love will always be the 'C'.

^ Bravo!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Feb 2015, 20:13
I'm not really into the funny t-shirt thing, and maybe in 14 years Claire won't be either.   
But if I did do it... it'd probably be more like this (http://www.litographs.com/collections/t-shirts/products/faraday-tee).

If you can find a "Readercon '15" tee shirt somewhere, you'd be a dead ringer.

Or just go on Topatoco and get yourself a TEH shirt (http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=QC-TEH&Category_Code=QC).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 13 Feb 2015, 20:17
... I think I need a new avatar.

Depends on if you can answer this question correctly....    What's a pirate's favorite letter?

(http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/August-31-2011-15-47-09-dailypicdump77664059Dailypicdump20110825s580x454226897580.jpg)

BTW - The pirate flag above was the flag flown by Calico Jack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_Jack
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: questionablydiscontent on 13 Feb 2015, 20:17
I was thinking ARR but your arrgument for C be mighty convincing.
Although you spell pirate with an R, not a C. But then the captain never goes anywhere without a C in front of him.
And they both have P's, but a pirate is harrdly a pirate in P'stime...
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Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 20:19
(http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/August-31-2011-15-47-09-dailypicdump77664059Dailypicdump20110825s580x454226897580.jpg)
BTW - The pirate flag above was the flag flown by Calico Jack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_Jack

Schmee had it right....  the internet gods (ie me for the moment) have thus decreed you change your avatar!!   No shrubberies unless you have 2.   And a path, A PATH!


Ni
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Feb 2015, 20:24
What's the physicist's favorite letter? Squiggle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_%28letter%29).

edit -- Ooh, I've got pi thousand posts. How fitting.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 13 Feb 2015, 20:27
Wow.  This most recent strip.  Marten, for once in his life is SCARY!  "LOOOOOM!!!!"
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 20:29
What's the physicist's favorite letter? Squiggle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_%28letter%29).

I would have gone with Nn  But then I'm more a Stellar Dynamics fan than a Quantum Mechanics nut.     N-body baby!!!
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 13 Feb 2015, 20:29
We just need to find a Dora or Faye lookalike poster and they can get together with Snarky and April and totally freak out Jeph at a con or something.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Mr. Black Licorice on 13 Feb 2015, 20:30
BTW - The pirate flag above was the flag flown by Calico Jack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_Jack
Schmee had it right....  the internet gods (ie me for the moment) have thus decreed you change your avatar!!   No shrubberies unless you have 2.   And a path, A PATH!
Ni

NOoOo! Ye be mad as a banshee if ye think ye going to take away m'flag!


On an unrelated note, I wonder if Jeph feels us LOoOoMing..
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 20:34
On an unrelated note, I wonder if Jeph feels us LOoOoMing..
You think Jeph reads the forums?   MUHAHAHAHA   YELLING BIRD FOR 2 WEEKS YOU SHALL HAVE~!!!!   
He's at Disney anyway.  I don't think he feels much other than sore feet and an abundance of over-stimuli.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 13 Feb 2015, 20:53
And hatred for small children
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Feb 2015, 20:54
All the fun of the fair.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 13 Feb 2015, 21:24
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 13 Feb 2015, 21:52
(http://barfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/scottish.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 13 Feb 2015, 22:16

Ok Weird Al's "World Crimes" just came to mind on that one.

*Word Crimes

This is what happens when I don't catch up on posts all day  :psyduck:

BTW - The pirate flag above was the flag flown by Calico Jack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calico_Jack
Schmee had it right....  the internet gods (ie me for the moment) have thus decreed you change your avatar!!   No shrubberies unless you have 2.   And a path, A PATH!
Ni

NOoOo! Ye be mad as a banshee if ye think ye going to take away m'flag!


On an unrelated note, I wonder if Jeph feels us LOoOoMing..

I think Fred Perry's animation to that is still my favorite. Katana crotch ninja!  :-D

EDIT: Huh. After looking it up again, I see he's since added more to it. Let me qualify the statement above, with I liked the unfinished version (originally it was only 30 seconds long).
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: St.Clair on 14 Feb 2015, 04:11
(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/3/36158/1813810-cobb.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 14 Feb 2015, 05:48
I feel bad about the fact I am curious how claire looks where we aren't allowed to see. I mean it isn't so i can fantasize but I am curious, but i only got curious because of the comic she stripped down....... sigh I'm a bad person.


So you're wondering if she has a hidden tattoo, too.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 14 Feb 2015, 06:01
I feel bad about the fact I am curious how claire looks where we aren't allowed to see. I mean it isn't so i can fantasize but I am curious, but i only got curious because of the comic she stripped down....... sigh I'm a bad person.


So you're wondering if she has a hidden tattoo, too.

I'm telling you... Mole shaped like Abraham Lincoln.

Or perhaps a Deathmole?
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 14 Feb 2015, 06:10
I like to think her nether regions are a mystical light that can cure cancer. But only the pure of heart may gaze upon it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 14 Feb 2015, 07:10
I like to think her nether regions are a mystical light that can cure cancer. But only the pure of heart may gaze upon it.

So the
(click to show/hide)
storyline will come as a complete surprise to you then.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 14 Feb 2015, 12:34
Keep in mind that Claire didn't know about Faye's violent streak during that scene.

Now she does, and she also knows that Faye's been through hell recently.

IDK, I guess I miss sassy Claire. In my head canon, Claire's had to develop a barbed tongue to defend herself and her brother, because of her gender identity, his general weirdness, and whatever family dynamics led to her instant judgment of Tai. The meekness is weird to me, because it doesn't match her age in my head (she's in an MA program) or her earlier personality. Playing the ingenue doesn't suit her.

The post-coital mind is often a stunned one.  She may simply be unable to pun and barb as usual in the afterglow.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 14 Feb 2015, 13:14
I like to think her nether regions are a mystical light that can cure cancer. But only the pure of heart may gaze upon it.

So the
(click to show/hide)
storyline will come as a complete surprise to you then.

That'd really mess up my QC and MLP fanfic, yeah.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Feb 2015, 14:58
The post-coital mind is often a stunned one.  She may simply be unable to pun and barb as usual in the afterglow.

Hopefully she gets over it soon.  I demand that all their future sexytimes include punning.

Maybe we should start a petition.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: explicit on 14 Feb 2015, 15:00
Honey, I think - I think... I'm punning I'M PUNNINGGGGG
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Feb 2015, 15:07
Acrobatic wordplay and strenuous tongue twisters.  Turns out Marten is quite the cunning linguist.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 14 Feb 2015, 15:17
... cunning linguist...
That ought to go on a shirt. Tai would probably be all for wearing it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Feb 2015, 15:43
Hell, I'm surprised she hasn't already.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 14 Feb 2015, 15:48
I feel bad about the fact I am curious how claire looks where we aren't allowed to see. I mean it isn't so i can fantasize but I am curious, but i only got curious because of the comic she stripped down....... sigh I'm a bad person.


So you're wondering if she has a hidden tattoo, too.

I'm telling you... Mole shaped like Abraham Lincoln.

Or perhaps a Deathmole?

Either that, or Billy Gibbons' hat and sunglasses, strategically placed.

(Joke kinda-sorta borrowed from Bloom County)
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Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Feb 2015, 00:10
So you're wondering if she has a hidden tattoo, too.

I can honestly see Tai talking Claire into getting a tattoo. Something cute and girlish like a guitar resting across an open book surrounded by flowers. The sort of thing that she will either treasure or would later be an immense source of embarrassment in years to come.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Feb 2015, 05:40
Or Marten and Claire getting matching tattoos. 




Or each getting half of one that becomes the whole image when they're together... 

 :-o :-P :roll: :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: snarkyone on 15 Feb 2015, 05:54
(http://i.imgur.com/vfrhEfg.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Feb 2015, 06:46
Oh come on, the thread started out very silly.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Castlerook on 15 Feb 2015, 07:07
Oh come on, the thread started out very silly.

Started? This whole part of the forum was always silly.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Feb 2015, 07:48
So, what was the right answer to the poll? None of the choices was exactly right, although "The Morning After the Night Before" comes close, it certainly didn't happen in the way I was expecting! Any mods or admins want to make a ruling?  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Feb 2015, 08:10
We actually got a nice little mix of things.  Some pillow talk, some morning after-talk, some Long Dark Breakfast of the Soul for Faye (not to mention her very close call with a Long Dark Late-Night Drinky-Drink of the Soul), and aborted robot hijinks.  Nothing Dora- or Steve & Cosette-related, but four out of six is a fairly good result.

And Claire, get a tattoo?  The same Claire who could barely get her ears pierced?  I don't see that happening anytime soon...unless she becomes an endorphin junky. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2535)  Then she buys a leather jacket and a motorcycle, and now I have to hunt down a certain photoshopped image.  Just a moment...there!

"Before she became the rather quiet (but assertive when needed) Claire we know today, and was still figuring herself out, she was a teen rebel..."

 (http://i.imgur.com/BK6dw9M.jpg)

Okay, somebody needs to talk Claire into getting a tattoo now.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Feb 2015, 09:33
Needs to start smoking too. Especially under No Smoking signs.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Feb 2015, 10:15
And--and re-shelving books in the wrong order!

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8586/16539012252_4821b30729.jpg)

Oh god I'm sorry I was only joking I TAKE THAT BACK I'M SORRY
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: DSL on 15 Feb 2015, 14:07
To say nothing of allowing patrons to reshelve the books instead of putting them on the cart.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 15 Feb 2015, 16:52
Damn, everyone's avatar is matching their posts today.

... I think I need a new avatar.

Well, you are what you eat, from your head down to your feet.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: bryntheskits on 15 Feb 2015, 18:30
(http://i.imgur.com/m7eoOwY.jpg)

I know I'm late but this is a Young Justice reference right? RIGHT?

Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Feb 2015, 18:41
But your Post in the wrong WCT Thread doesn't   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 15 Feb 2015, 20:31
I thought that too, Bryn. I gave a little squee over it.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: fantasticalice on 16 May 2018, 05:31
I know this is ancient but I just found '92 so beautiful I needed to comment. I've been reading like crazy because I love the anthropc stuff but this was beautiful.

By the way my headcanon is specific about where claire is physically but I just see her as self conscious about her body. I see her as having major self esteem issues and she knew that she needed to be ready to be rejected or judged or had Marten be unsure but positive.

 "You're Beautiful" was what every girl wants to hear when she has body issues. I'm gay but I would want my girl to see me and say that too. Trans and genderqueer issues aren't shown in comics very often and this one made me smile.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 May 2018, 07:30
Welcome, new person!

I agree. That was a touching strip!

There's still been only a little coverage of trans* issues, which happens because Claire is written as being normal instead of being the Trans Character, an approach that turned out to be popular among the trans* forum members.
Title: Re: WCDT: Strips 2892 to 2896 (9th - 13th February 2015)
Post by: awgiedawgie on 16 May 2018, 10:42
I know this is ancient but I just found '92 so beautiful I needed to comment. I've been reading like crazy because I love the anthropc stuff but this was beautiful.

By the way my headcanon is specific about where claire is physically but I just see her as self conscious about her body. I see her as having major self esteem issues and she knew that she needed to be ready to be rejected or judged or had Marten be unsure but positive.

 "You're Beautiful" was what every girl wants to hear when she has body issues. I'm gay but I would want my girl to see me and say that too. Trans and genderqueer issues aren't shown in comics very often and this one made me smile.
Quite. It's one thing for Marten to say he's OK with it. It's another thing entirely for him to see Claire in all her glory and say "You're beautiful." That's not just acceptance - it's attraction.