Maybe to leap forwards to the run up to Thanksgiving. Will Claire spend it with her family or with her new and expanding circle of friends centred around Marten and Tai?
My guess? Butts.
Faye starts officially babysitting Sam at the apartment and Claire stops by? I mean Faye's going to need some source of income, and Jim needs someone who can handle Sam.... Seems like a good match.
Four dads? Mr Augustus isn't really part of Claire's life anymore, apparently. I'm not entirely sure Marten would see Jim as Dad-3 material, even if he and Sam would get a step sibling thing going. "Here's my mom's new husband, who went out with my ex before she hooked up with my boss."
Faye gets a commission from a strange woman named Alice
Some years later, a legend about the quarry arises. They say it's haunted, but the ghost never does anything. It just stands on the water and watches.Faye gets a commission from a strange woman named Alice
She's later seen taking two bodies wrapped in carpet rolls to the quarry. The village returns to its peaceful existence.
Thinking about it some more, I'm wondering if the "Faye teaching Sam to make an Old Fashioned" thing was meant as a tipoff that Faye was starting to drink at work? :psyduck:Maybe...Faye has actually been shown explicitly drinking at work before this. I forget when exactly, but Raven called her out on it and Faye's excuse was that "it's almost closing time". I don't think it's implied that she was drinking at work regularly before the breakup with Angus, though.
Oh my gosh, that is the cutest.
And not sickeningly cute. Cute cute.
Be this our dance of booty?
Adorkable. I don't know if i should squee or roll my eyes.
If a dork dorks in the woods and nobody is around to call them a dork, is the dork still a dork?
Be this our dance of booty?
No, but it'll do.
For now...
(Because let's face it, two panels don't make for much of a gif)
Dancing Claire is every bit as adorable as Dancing Marigold.
Yes, absolutely. Because otherwise, how will we know for sure?Dancing Claire is every bit as adorable as Dancing Marigold.
Are you absolutely sure about that? Because we should probably have a dance-off, just to be sure.
You could do both. Y'know, multitasking.
I think I can safely say: Haters gunna hate.
She's gone full Zoidberg. You never go full Zoidberg.
yeah that's what dork girls want you to think.
Be this our dance of booty?
What I Want for Tomorrow:
Hannelore sticks her head into the apartment (as is her wont), sees Claire dancing and joins in. We then have five panels of Claire and Hanners dancing in perfect synch before they stop and stare 'out' of the panel. In the last panel we see what they're staring at: a happy Marten and a freaked out Faye.
Dork girlfriends are awesome and highly searched for ! :-D
yeah that's what dork girls want you to think.
yeah that's what dork girls want you to think.
So I hate to be that one person, but am I the only one to find Claire's reaction insensitive? Self-centered? Immature?
I mean, it's not the rudest thing in the world, but it's far from what I'd call cute.
So I hate to be that one person, but am I the only one to find Claire's reaction insensitive? Self-centered? Immature?
I mean, it's not the rudest thing in the world, but it's far from what I'd call cute.
So I hate to be that one person, but am I the only one to find Claire's reaction insensitive? Self-centered? Immature?
I mean, it's not the rudest thing in the world, but it's far from what I'd call cute.
Insensitive, self-centered, immature, and cute can go together. Think of puppies or kittens.
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There should be music with that.
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There should be music with that.
Fitting into the group and interacting positively is something that she really wants to do but made her nervous and insecure. Tai's party is an obvious next learning step.
I bet nobody gave Michelangelo shit for this.
The sculptor that is. I bet the turtles were all about the dick jokes off panel.
I don't think that "self-centred" is quite correct. The real issue here is "insecure" and uncertain of her own worth. The fact that she's actually helped someone, that she's impacted positively upon someone's life, is a huge thing for Claire. It really says volumes about her hopes, dreams and aspirations that helping someone is a cause for joy.+1 Insightful. Not so much "selfish" as "self-centred", "egotistical". A defence mechanism. Claire needs to think well of Claire, even if no-one else does.
So, yeah, Claire is reacting more about what this moment means for her than what it means for Faye and that is a bit selfish but, if I'm right about her self-esteem issues, understandable.
WRT Claire, I'll just say glass houses, kid. You might not like where this goes if you keep pushing it.
Heaven forbid that anyone hand Faye of all people a bit of light-hearted snark.
nah.Heaven forbid that anyone hand Faye of all people a bit of light-hearted snark.
It's long been a characteristic of Faye that she can't take as well as she dishes out. I suspect that Claire is going to be a vector for Jeph to address more Faye character growth.
EDIT
Okay, I've been thinking about this and I know how I think this week into next week is going to progress. Mods, if I've overstepped the mark, PM me and I'll remove this edit. I'll be on-line off-and-on all day.
PANEL 1: Claire is leaning back, looking smug whilst Faye is looking a bit defensive.
CLAIRE: "Seriously, though. Why dicks? Is this sculpture gonna be an erotic nude or something?"
PANEL 2 (half-height): Close up on FAYE's face, looking serious and a bit like she's giving a lecture.
FAYE: "It's one of several that I'm casting. They'll be mounted around a throne to symbolise how, in the modern patriarchal society, male privilege is inextricably linked to sexual identity."
PANEL 3 (half-height): FAYE still in exposition mode, maybe touching her chest or gesturing for emphasis.
FAYE: "It's going to be a challenging piece. I call it: 'Game of Boners'."
PANEL 4 (half-height): CLAIRE'S face, staring, wide-eyed.
PANEL 5 (half-height): CLAIRE is now talking with a big smile.
CLAIRE: "So, it's basically a chair with hundreds of cast metal dicks welded all around it like an ornamental frame and backdrop?"
FAYE: (off panel) "YES...! NO!"
PANEL 6: CLAIRE is leaning forwards making a Claireface (tm), whilst FAYE is leaning back defensively, shouting over her shoulder and looking very angry.
CLAIRE: "'Cause if it is, I'd pay to see it... and the faces of everyone else in the gallery!"
FAYE: "DUDE! Your girlfriend has a sick sense of humour!"
MARTEN: (off panel) "I know!"
Basically, Thursday is an only-semi angry argument with Claire and Faye exchanging biting quips but ends with Claire basically outing herself to Faye. It ends with Faye bursting into the kitchen whilst Marten is trying to detach Pintsize's 'attachment'. "Dude, your girlfriend is a trans!"
The last panel is Faye's shocked expression as Marten replies "I know!" from off panel.
Friday would be either a filler or an inconclusive conversation between Marten and Faye whilst Claire, looking frightened and defensive, is cuddled up by Marten, knees drawn to her chest and sort of hiding behind him.
Next week would then be actually more Faye-based in which we learn something about her childhood (her mother's family is rather bigoted and she's always tried to escape that). Suggested quote: "Every objection I can think of to you being with Marty I hear in my Aunt's voice. If that bigoted witch is the best I can come up with, then I don't have any objections that I respect.". She and Claire would end up declaring a cease-fire but it is clear that the two of them are going to be needling each other from now on (they enjoy it too much).
It's long been a characteristic of Faye that she can't take as well as she dishes out. I suspect that Claire is going to be a vector for Jeph to address more Faye character growth.On the flip side, Claire can't either.
However, Is it just me, or are we still being hammered into the point that CLAIRE IS MARTENS GIRLFRIEND!! Did you hear? Marten has a girlfriend and her name is Claire! Marten's girlfriend is a dork! Marten's girlfriend is a smartass! Marten is dating a dorky smartass named Claire!
Basically, Thursday is an only-semi angry argument with Claire and Faye exchanging biting quips but ends with Claire basically outing herself to Faye. It ends with Faye bursting into the kitchen whilst Marten is trying to detach Pintsize's 'attachment'. "Dude, your girlfriend is a trans!"
The last panel is Faye's shocked expression as Marten replies "I know!" from off panel.
I bet nobody gave Michelangelo shit for this.
The sculptor that is. I bet the turtles were all about the dick jokes off panel.
Basically, Thursday is an only-semi angry argument with Claire and Faye exchanging biting quips but ends with Claire basically outing herself to Faye. It ends with Faye bursting into the kitchen whilst Marten is trying to detach Pintsize's 'attachment'. "Dude, your girlfriend is a trans!"
The last panel is Faye's shocked expression as Marten replies "I know!" from off panel.
Can't see Jeph going there. And I really can't see Faye reacting to the news about Claire (if she ever finds out) with anything more than a casual shrug. Hey, as long as Marty's cool with it, that's fine by her.
Basically, Thursday is an only-semi angry argument with Claire and Faye exchanging biting quips but ends with Claire basically outing herself to Faye. It ends with Faye bursting into the kitchen whilst Marten is trying to detach Pintsize's 'attachment'. "Dude, your girlfriend is a trans!"
The last panel is Faye's shocked expression as Marten replies "I know!" from off panel.
Can't see Jeph going there. And I really can't see Faye reacting to the news about Claire (if she ever finds out) with anything more than a casual shrug. Hey, as long as Marty's cool with it, that's fine by her.
Indeed. Perfectly valid from a drama and storytelling standpoint. Problem is it goes against the message that Calire's status shouldn't matter especially when it comes up in the forum in every discussion about Claire's future in the story. Claire could invite Faye to the library to look at art books, she could crack joke that her brother loves his robot hand so much maybe he'd love a robot dong, she could ask if Faye's making the cock-golem from Gamers: Hands of Fate, they could grip together about fathers being selfish and going away, they can each grab a metal dildo and do a little phallus fencing (cock fight?) Or Hanners can show up with the little hats.
Is it possible to get rid of superglued stuff ?!?
Is it possible to get rid of superglued stuff ?!?
If Faye was on her game, this would totally be the clever characters snarking at each other I enjoy so much out of QC.
Is it possible to get rid of superglued stuff ?!?
I'm told that nail varnish remover is highly effective as a solvent for super-glue.
Oh, also, the side helping of double standards: Claire's apparently free to comment on other characters' genitalian issues, but the same regarding her on here gets people the immediate ban (as I no doubt just inched myself closer to).
Yeah, I totally understand why Faye's not at full snark power. I imagine to some extent Claire understands/believes that if you have a healthy outlet for issues you don't want everything else to remind you of them, so she's goofing around like she usually would* instead of being delicate around Faye.
*Or maybe a little exaggerated, I mean she does like to crack jokes and follow them up with huge smiles. Also, she is often really blunt, especially back when she was introduced.
To be quite honest, I can't see any hint of Claire "commenting on other characters' genetalian issues". She's teasing Faye about sculpting a metal phallus apparently before any other component of the sculpture and any further implications are purely in the mind of the reader, IMHO. :wink:
And I really can't see Faye reacting to the news about Claire (if she ever finds out) with anything more than a casual shrug. Hey, as long as Marty's cool with it, that's fine by her.
I'll probably be alone in saying this since Claire seems to have some sort of squee-powered fanclub on here
I'll probably be alone in saying this since Claire seems to have some sort of squee-powered fanclub on here, but her character has gotten both boring and annoying ever since she got together with Marten. I liked her a lot better when she was shy and cute--we already have an overabundance of overbearing female characters in the comic--not that there's anything wrong with any of those characters individually, but all together? It's getting to be a bit much. Claire's not funny anymore, doesn't seem all that intelligent, doesn't have much to recommend her in the way of charm...her initial charm was her shy awkwardness and innocence, and now that that's gone, she's just like another clone of every other female character who's ever been in the comic: a nondescript snarky chick who always has to be a smartass.
Something had been bothering me about Claire for a while, and I FINALLY put my finger on it. Now, hopefully, I won't be bombarded with rotten produce for criticizing everyone's favorite little redhead....
Now, hopefully, I won't be bombarded with rotten produce for criticizing everyone's favorite little redhead....
Something had been bothering me about Claire for a while, and I FINALLY put my finger on it. Now, hopefully, I won't be bombarded with rotten produce for criticizing everyone's favorite little redhead....
I'll probably be alone in saying this since Claire seems to have some sort of squee-powered fanclub on here, but her character has gotten both boring and annoying ever since she got together with Marten.
I'll probably be alone in saying this since Claire seems to have some sort of squee-powered fanclub on here, but her character has gotten both boring and annoying ever since she got together with Marten. I liked her a lot better when she was shy and cute--we already have an overabundance of overbearing female characters in the comic--not that there's anything wrong with any of those characters individually, but all together? It's getting to be a bit much. Claire's not funny anymore, doesn't seem all that intelligent, doesn't have much to recommend her in the way of charm...her initial charm was her shy awkwardness and innocence, and now that that's gone, she's just like another clone of every other female character who's ever been in the comic: a nondescript snarky chick who always has to be a smartass.Don't martyr yourself or anything... You seem to be overestimating the sort of response you're going to get.
Something had been bothering me about Claire for a while, and I FINALLY put my finger on it. Now, hopefully, I won't be bombarded with rotten produce for criticizing everyone's favorite little redhead....
whilst Claire, looking frightened and defensive, is cuddled up by Marten, knees drawn to her chest and sort of hiding behind him.
Suggested quote: "Every objection I can think of to you being with Marty I hear in my Aunt's voice. If that bigoted witch is the best I can come up with, then I don't have any objections that I respect.".
Honestly, if no characters in QC ever engaged in behaviour which could potentially be considered intentionally or unintentionally offensive by some, nobody would read this comic because there would be no drama or comedy.
Okay, this may be a bit of a derail, but how much does Pintsize weigh? Marten appears to be one-handing him here. If he has a metal phallus on his head, he probably weighs more (unless that's aircraft aluminum).
If Faye was on her game, this would totally be the clever characters snarking at each other I enjoy so much out of QC.
That's just it -- she's plainly not "on her game", she just came from a stressful and presumably draining first experience with a support/rehab group. It's entirely reasonable that she wouldn't be up for much in the way of humour immediately after that.
Which is what makes Claire's response such a jerkass move, and Marten for enabling her: it's entirely insensitive and inconsiderate.
I'll probably be alone in saying this since Claire seems to have some sort of squee-powered fanclub on here, but her character has gotten both boring and annoying ever since she got together with Marten. I liked her a lot better when she was shy and cute--we already have an overabundance of overbearing female characters in the comic--not that there's anything wrong with any of those characters individually, but all together? It's getting to be a bit much. Claire's not funny anymore, doesn't seem all that intelligent, doesn't have much to recommend her in the way of charm...her initial charm was her shy awkwardness and innocence, and now that that's gone, she's just like another clone of every other female character who's ever been in the comic: a nondescript snarky chick who always has to be a smartass.Don't martyr yourself or anything... You seem to be overestimating the sort of response you're going to get.
Something had been bothering me about Claire for a while, and I FINALLY put my finger on it. Now, hopefully, I won't be bombarded with rotten produce for criticizing everyone's favorite little redhead....
And I really can't see Faye reacting to the news about Claire (if she ever finds out) with anything more than a casual shrug. Hey, as long as Marty's cool with it, that's fine by her.
I think most people should react. I think the only character who should just give a shrug like when she told Marten would be Tai(And maybe Momo? She is Polite Bot 9000). Faye should be surprised. Then probably a bit politically incorrect, if well meaning.
Um, wow. It was a joke. No need to take everything so damn literally.
A more realistic (if less dramatic) coming out for Claire might simply involve her letting those in the know start telling the others.
Many trans* people prefer not to "come out" at all, because it opens them up to questions, bigotry, and in some cases/places, violence. It's a little different that the other letters in the LGBTQA spectrum in the way that telling people that you are what you are can invalidate you in their eyes (e.g.: "you're not a 'real' woman" or seeing you only as your trans* identity and not just "woman" or "man"), though some of that happens with sexuality, too.
Many trans* people prefer not to "come out" at all, because it opens them up to questions, bigotry, and in some cases/places, violence. It's a little different that the other letters in the LGBTQA spectrum in the way that telling people that you are what you are can invalidate you in their eyes (e.g.: "you're not a 'real' woman" or seeing you only as your trans* identity and not just "woman" or "man"), though some of that happens with sexuality, too.
Of course, everyone's different, and some people want others to know and to be open about their experiences, which is fine, too.
April first draws near. I wonder if we're going to be pranked again.
Not being able to use a public restroom - including one at work - is a dead giveaway.
Because that's what we were totally talking about in regards to Claire's social circle... Way to derail.
And in this one... Texas HB1747 makes it illegal for anyone with female ID to use a male restroom, while HB1748 makes it illegal for anyone with XY chromosomes to use a female one.
Not being able to use a public restroom - including one at work - is a dead giveaway.
Maybe such asshattery is confined to the way AIs are treated in the QC-verse. Anyway, it's why I identify more with Momo than Claire.
Not that I'm surprised, but, seriously, Texas? I'd ask what the bloody hell is wrong with my state...The Florida one's nearly as bad. Some that have been defeated in the past in other states were worse. So it's not just Texas.
Okay, this may be a bit of a derail, but how much does Pintsize weigh? Marten appears to be one-handing him here. If he has a metal phallus on his head, he probably weighs more (unless that's aircraft aluminum).
The april fools prank is not uploading a comic and making me refresh over and over.
Okay, this may be a bit of a derail, but how much does Pintsize weigh? Marten appears to be one-handing him here. If he has a metal phallus on his head, he probably weighs more (unless that's aircraft aluminum).
Nah, he's two-handing Pintsize. You can see Marten's arm in the background and the tips of his fingers on the other side of Pintsize's head.
The question on my mind is if the kittens are alive, dead, or bloody furious when Hanners opens the box to check on them.
I don't think that anyone has actually Schrödingered (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat) a cat before. The immediate reference was to Pratchett (who added the "bloody furious").The question on my mind is if the kittens are alive, dead, or bloody furious when Hanners opens the box to check on them.
There's holes in the box, so for my peace of mind I'm assuming they're alive. Even fictional dead kittens make me incredibly sad :cry:
Testing: uǝʇɹɐW, ǝʎɐℲ, ɐɹoᗡ, Tai, ǝɹıɐןƆ, testing...
Aha, I was right: the forum is turning people's names upside down today, presumably for April Fool's Day. Apparently Tai and Hannelore got omitted from the list of those to overturn.
Dick first is better than ass backwards.I disagree. In QC (and now also in AG), it is always butts first :mrgreen:
(Does anyone venture to disagree?)
I kept waiting for uǝʇɹɐW to use the dildo as a carry handle.Probably too risky as well.
I'm told that nail varnish remover is highly effective as a solvent for super-glue.Be careful. Nail varnish remover is mostly acetone, which ʎɐW dissolve certain plastics, rubbers, and other organic compounds. It has never been stated which surface material is covering ǝzᴉsʇuᴉԀ. It could be thin metal sheets (his head is very dentable), but some plastics material is also possible.
The question on my mind is if the kittens are alive, dead, or bloody furious when sɹǝuuɐH opens the box to check on them.Schrodinger's kittens?
Is this an April Fool's joke? I don't know about that; I, for one, consider this in-character for sɹǝuuɐH. It also is one of a very occasional sequence reminding us that sɹǝuuɐH does have sexual desires and that her needs are slowly getting more intense.
They aren't sweaty or smelly in her imagination. Her imagination is clean.It is definitely in-character for sɹǝuuɐH. She has sexual desires; unfortunately, they don't match reality (although she apparently does tolerate a little body hair). Today's comic is definitely going to be my new favorite. sɹǝuuɐH the Crowbar Girl.
I thought sɹǝuuɐH had found out that reallife firemen are kind of dirty and sweaty?
What...what would a cruise ship full of sexy nude firemen need a crowbar for?You know what they say about the Navy? How do they seperate the men from the boys? With a crowbar.
Are there a lot of elevators?
The question on my mind is if the kittens are alive, dead, or bloody furious when sɹǝuuɐH opens the box to check on them.
I still think the crowbar needed to see a Half-Life reference.
Some questions are better left unexamined :-)
It's fun to see wacky QC make a re-appearance.
Cosettte
Will
Next year, I'll be a fool for 366 days!
Ah, see, I never read his books, so the reference was totally lost on me :psyduck:I don't think that anyone has actually Schrödingered (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat) a cat before. The immediate reference was to Pratchett (who added the "bloody furious").The question on my mind is if the kittens are alive, dead, or bloody furious when sɹǝuuɐH opens the box to check on them.
There's holes in the box, so for my peace of mind I'm assuming they're alive. Even fictional dead kittens make me incredibly sad :cry:
Ah, see, I never read his books, so the reference was totally lost on me :psyduck:
Ah, see, I never read his books, so the reference was totally lost on me :psyduck:
If you come visit me I totally promise not to bury you up to your neck in sci-fi and fantasy books and force you to read your way out.*
*not an actual promise
Ah, see, I never read his books, so the reference was totally lost on me :psyduck:
If you come visit me I totally promise not to bury you up to your neck in sci-fi and fantasy books and force you to read your way out.*
*not an actual promise
Is this offer only open to Omega, or could others apply? The library in my tiny town is sadly lacking in Pratchett and I'm broke... I've been meaning to read something from him since I found out Neil Gaiman wrote a book with him
I thought sɹǝuuɐH had found out that reallife firemen are kind of dirty and sweaty ?
Hehe. My personal message and sig looks even better now. But should not the (_!_) substitution be upside down as well?(ŻˇŻ)
should not the (_!_) substitution be upside down as well?
The April Fool's joke is pretending that an administrator did it when it's actually a hack from someone in Australia who is gradually trying to turn the forum umop apisdn so she can read it more conveniently.
CosettteWill
Spell their names correctly.
I saw that name and my brain interpreted it as Jim.CosettteWill
Spell their names correctly.
Ack, you're right, I completely forgot that ןıM apparently lost one of his Ls when he was a small and especially careless boy. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea naughty naughty culpa. 8-)
The April Fool's joke is pretending that an administrator did it when it's actually a hack from someone in Australia who is gradually trying to turn the forum umop apisdn so she can read it more conveniently.(https://tjvenne.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/funny-picture-1269505296706.jpeg)
The library in my tiny town is sadly lacking in Pratchett and I'm broke... I've been meaning to read something from him since I found out Neil Gaiman wrote a book with him
Pro-tip: Find "Good Omens" first. That's the Gaiman/Pratchett book and, frankly, the most exquisite place to start. Almost as good as the glorious "American Gods".
I did a special for Akima's post up the thread where she tried to buck what I was doing.:P :P :P :P :P
The library in my tiny town is sadly lacking in Pratchett and I'm broke... I've been meaning to read something from him since I found out Neil Gaiman wrote a book with him
Pro-tip: Find "Good Omens" first. That's the Gaiman/Pratchett book and, frankly, the most exquisite place to start. Almost as good as the glorious "American Gods".
I don't usually laugh out loud when reading. I did that quite a lot while reading Good Omens.
"Hey, you sass that hoopy Ḧ̵͚̳́̚͝a̷͎̯̻̱͖͂̂̑̌̌͌n̸̙̰̤̖̝̓̚ͅñ̵̩̬̱͒̌ẹ̷͙͓̲̏̈̏͗ͅl̵̨̯̱̯̝̳̀o̴̦̪̙̹͆̌͒̏̓͒̉ͅr̴̡͓͇̪̮̞̊̌̇͂̎e̸̛̞̥͙̠̳̫͛͜ ƐӀӀěçօէէ-↻հąէհąʍ? There's a frood who really knows where her crowbar is."
Omnibus editions of various Discworld books would be nice, since I only own about half of them, and would love to read the rest. Discworld is one of the few series where I think that the work actually got better the longer that it went on.
How much longer is it going to be "your territory" when you can't make the freakin' rent, ǝʎɐℲ?
Mrrrow!
Mrrrow!
This comic makes me really uncomfortable. ǝʎɐℲ's body language isn't merely aggressive, it's outright threatening.
Physical intimidation of ǝɹıɐןƆ is _not_ cool. She's small, she has every reason to fear attacks and she's shown no signs of being able to defend herself with anything but wit.
I don't know if ǝʎɐℲ is reacting to the patriarchy by imitating what it values, aggression or if she's really reacting to feeling threatened herself, at this point it doesn't matter. You do not threaten by word or deed to harm someone because they said something you don't like. That shit is not helpful.
Was there ever a case of The Pugnacious Peach treating any of uǝʇɹɐW's other girlfriends that badly?
(Vicki, maybe).
This comic makes me really uncomfortable. ǝʎɐℲ's body language isn't merely aggressive, it's outright threatening.
Physical intimidation of ǝɹıɐןƆ is _not_ cool. She's small, she has every reason to fear attacks and she's shown no signs of being able to defend herself with anything but wit.
I didn't even think of this when I read the comic, but since you mention it, yeah, it's kinda scary. I guess that I have just become *used* to ǝʎɐℲtrying tointimidating others with threat of physical violence and have been looking at it like Bugs Bunny hurting Elmer Fudd. You seem to have this disconcerting tendency to make me re-evaluate things.
QuoteI don't know if ǝʎɐℲ is reacting to the patriarchy by imitating what it values, aggression or if she's really reacting to feeling threatened herself, at this point it doesn't matter. You do not threaten by word or deed to harm someone because they said something you don't like. That shit is not helpful.
Methinks it's less of a patriarchy thing than it being another "coping mechanism", that like booze, she's going to need to learn to shed. That doesn't excuse her behaviour in the least, but at least it explains it. ǝʎɐℲ is one of the many characters in this strip who have some sort of problems interacting with others in a healthy way, but hers are pretty much the worst when it comes to the impact on others. If, like ɐɹoᗡ, she continues on the path she's on, she'll soon find herself *very* alone, and for good reason.
This comic makes me really uncomfortable. ǝʎɐℲ's body language isn't merely aggressive, it's outright threatening.
Physical intimidation of ǝɹıɐןƆ is _not_ cool. She's small, she has every reason to fear attacks and she's shown no signs of being able to defend herself with anything but wit.
I didn't even think of this when I read the comic, but since you mention it, yeah, it's kinda scary. I guess that I have just become *used* to ǝʎɐℲtrying tointimidating others with threat of physical violence and have been looking at it like Bugs Bunny hurting Elmer Fudd. You seem to have this disconcerting tendency to make me re-evaluate things.
It's both good and disconcerting for all of us to take a second look at things that we'd taken for granted as The Way Thing Are. A hug is offered.
[...]
Was there ever a case of The Pugnacious Peach treating any of uǝʇɹɐW's other girlfriends that badly?
(Vicki, maybe).
(That's not me lining up for a hug or anything, I just wanted to chime in to agree.)
(That's not me lining up for a hug or anything, I just wanted to chime in to agree.)
Y-you don't want to hug me?
Do you wanna build a snowman?
Y-you don't want to hug me?
Do you wanna build a snowman?
(sorry, names split to stop the flipping AUGH SO HARD TO READ THE FLIPPED NAMES ARGHLFARGL) C'laire leans aggressively into F'aye's personal space
, F'aye isn't aware that C'laire might have more cause than most to be easily intimidated by (intentionally or unintentionally) implied threats.
"Hey, you sass that hoopy Ḧ̵͚̳́̚͝a̷͎̯̻̱͖͂̂̑̌̌͌n̸̙̰̤̖̝̓̚ͅñ̵̩̬̱͒̌ẹ̷͙͓̲̏̈̏͗ͅl̵̨̯̱̯̝̳̀o̴̦̪̙̹͆̌͒̏̓͒̉ͅr̴̡͓͇̪̮̞̊̌̇͂̎e̸̛̞̥͙̠̳̫͛͜ ƐӀӀěçօէէ-↻հąէհąʍ? There's a frood who really knows where her crowbar is."
For some reason, this reminds me of when Alternative Press typeset an entire interview with Bryan Ferry in Wingdings and assorted runes.
Of course, by this time tomorrow that reference will probably make no sense. :P
I definitely got the threat of physical confrontation read of the situation as well. It's pretty messed up. I'm usually fine with Faye, but this seemed incredibly shitty on several levels. Faye is simultaneously:
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The idea that someone would get mad about 'sass' is so preposterous to me, even without considering how much it is a bullshit complaint coming out of Faye. Wouldn't be surprised if Marten follows up and this turns into a serious confrontation.
You have not experienced Questionable Content until you have read it in the original Klingon.
She doesn't need to. Faye is aware of both Claire's size and the prevalence of violence against women. That should be sufficient.
They both live in a world run by people who are aggressive and larger than they are and that places less value of them than is does men.
Omnibus editions of various Discworld books would be nice, since I only own about half of them, and would love to read the rest. Discworld is one of the few series where I think that the work actually got better the longer that it went on.Actually, omnibus editions do exist, at least of the first 20 or so books. I checked my bookshelf, and I seems to have at least 6 of them. 2 covering the first 5 Rincewind books(CoM/TLF,S/
adorkable.
So for Faye to react violently - and it is violently - to someone who was just moments before excited to be helpful to her and does not have a malicious bone in her body...
Faye, meanwhile, has called Claire a smartarse and a dork in this time, with Claire and Marten both copping that one on the chin with bright, proud smiles.
Who does the title text of 2930 refer to?
Okay, so this is how I see things going down. I'm probably wrong but I like this sceniario:You're missing the bit where Marten dislocates his jaw and swallows them both whole, boa constrictor style.
FRIDAY (six-panel frame)
PANEL 1: MARTEN is sitting between CLAIRE and FAYE; a barricade by choice or necessity? Who knows?
CLAIRE: "You know, you'd think that an artist would have a nice, intellectual explanation for her art!"
FAYE: "You know, you'd think that a good girlfriend would know how to treat her boyfriend's best friend!"
PANEL 2: MARTEN is now clearly trapped; FAYE and CLAIRE are leaning towards each other and getting red in the face.
CLAIRE: "For someone who's made such a screw-up of her life, you're full of advice for other people!"
FAYE: "For someone who's apparently been a wallflower up to now, you seem to know a lot about how to act!"
PANEL 4: Close up on MARTEN's face
FAYE (off-panel): "Maybe my roommate's new pet should learn respect!"
CLAIRE (off-panel): "Maybe my boyfriend's charity case should learn gratitude!"
PANEL 5: Same close up but MARTEN'S irises have gone red!
MARTEN: "That's..."
PANEL 6: MARTEN is throwing his hands up in the air. FAYE and CLAIRE are both reeling back, their hair is fear/shock spiky
MARTEN: "ENOUGH!"
MONDAY (four-panel frame)
PANEL 1 (half-height): Marten, glaring and pointing
MARTEN: "Okay, I'd hoped that I could avoid this forever but here goes!"
PANEL 2 (full height): CLAIRE, looking down in shame.
MARTEN (off panel): "Claire, I love you; you're beautiful, funny and intelligent but you've got to stop being so cruel to people!"
CLAIRE: "But..."
MARTEN (off panel): "Putting people down like that isn't cool and it isn't funny! It's unattractive Claire! It makes you look ugly and small!"
PANEL 3 (full height): FAYE, looking down in shame
MARTEN (off panel): "Faye, I love you like the sister I've never had but you can be the meanest person I've ever known!"
FAYE: "But..."
MARTEN (off panel): "I know you've had a hard life but you've got to stop treating it as a license to be a complete and utter shit to everyone you ever meet!"
PANEL 4 (half height): MARTEN is walking away from the couch as CLAIRE and FAYE look at him in shock.
MARTEN: "I'm not telling you to hug and make friends; you're both adults and you can run your own lives."
MARTEN (second balloon): "I'm just telling you to GROW UP!"
PANEL 5 (half height): FAYE and CLAIRE looking off-panel to the right
MARTEN (off panel): "I'm going to walk this off!"
SFX: DOOR SLAM
PANEL 6: FAYE and CLAIRE looking at each other fearfully
CLAIRE: "Wow! Talk about screwing up the best thing in your life in one evening!"
FAYE: "Tell me about it, sister!"
The next two strips on Tuesday and Wednesday would be a filler BUT would both have the last panel being Marten walking around or maybe leaning on a wall and rubbing the bridge of his nose somewhere in Northampton.
THURSDAY (six-panel frame)
PANEL 1: MARTEN unlocking the apartment's front door
PANEL 2: Close-up on MARTEN's face; he's wide-eyed
PANEL 3: MARTEN's POV - FAYE and CLAIRE are both standing in the middle room, looking embarrassed. Their eyes are suspiciously shiny
PANEL 4: FAYE and CLAIRE are both glomping Marten from different sides
FAYE: "MartyI'msorryI'msuchafuckupandabitchandI'msorryanddon'thatemeIpromiseI'lldobetterIswear...!"
CLAIRE: "MartenI'msorryIactlikealittlechildandI'mscaredofpeopleandpleasedon'tdumpmeIpromiseI'llstopandbenicerIpromise..."
PANEL 5: MARTEN is smiling reassuringly and trying to hug both teaful ladies at once
MARTEN: "Wow! Hey! Don't cry! It's gonna be okay! You'll see!"
PINTSIZE (Off-panel): "Wow! Is this a prelude to a make-up sex threesome? Where's my camera?"
PANEL 6: MARTEN, FAYE and CLAIRE all all glaring at PINTSIZE, who is standing on the arm of the couch.
PINTSIZE: "So... I'm thinking that the answer is 'No'. I'm going to lock myself in my cupboard now."
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Yeah... so I admit that there is a lot of my thoughts in Marten's rant
The trouble is that Faye is regularly an asshole to everyone. This isn't the first time she's physically intimidated Claire for trying to interact with Faye the way she sees Faye interacting with other people all the time. Faye is like the poster child of 'can dish it out but can't take it' at times like this. The beer can incident can be set aside somewhat as Claire was clearly being unwarrantedly bitchy with her comment and it was taken mostly jokingly by everyone except Claire. In this case though she was clearly being aggressive and even threatening with the "I only put up with you, we are NOT friends and you do NOT have the right to do to me what I do to you and everyone else."
(...remember how she treats Clinton?)
See, this is my problem with Faye. She’s never been my favourite character, and she’s never been a character I particularly like, but she’s always been a character I really want to like. I’d started to like her more, partly because what she’s been through recently evokes my sympathy (and I tend to like people whom I sympathise with), and partly because of the way she seems to have been handling it so far. Then she goes and does something like this.
I know, I shouldn’t be so invested in a fictional character in a webcomic, but I can’t help but feel disappointed when she reverts back to the behaviour that makes it so hard for me to like her in the first place (aggressive, overly sassy, bordering on bullying).
My hope is that maybe her aggressive stance towards Claire right now is her (Faye) sort of testing her own waters, in the sense of using a behaviour she’s very used to using, in a time of very high stress? Faye’s acceptance of the reality of her situation in the immediate aftermath of being hospitalised, along with her open and polite response to the support group, seemed slightly out of character to me, in the “too good to be true” sense. It must have taken either a genuine epiphany, or a lot of effort, for her to react in those ways, and I wonder if she’s feeling almost like she’s not herself anymore. Trying to lay the smack-down on Claire might be a way of sort of feeling inside herself to see if there’s something of the old Faye that she can grasp on to. Whether that’s to comfort herself with old behaviours, or to help convince herself that pre-hospitalisation Faye hasn’t disappeared, I have no idea. I just hope that she’s not going revert back entirely to the prickly, snarky, frankly sometimes unpleasant person that she often used to be.
Ugh, I’m really not expressing myself very well in this post, but does anyone know what I’m getting at here?
(...remember how she treats Clinton?)Claire is still in my top three favourite characters, but I sometimes feel that her treatment of Clinton is a little dismissive and harsh, especially when he's not there to defend himself.
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My hope is that maybe her aggressive stance towards Claire right now is her (Faye) sort of testing her own waters, in the sense of using a behaviour she’s very used to using, in a time of very high stress? Faye’s acceptance of the reality of her situation in the immediate aftermath of being hospitalised, along with her open and polite response to the support group, seemed slightly out of character to me, in the “too good to be true” sense. It must have taken either a genuine epiphany, or a lot of effort, for her to react in those ways, and I wonder if she’s feeling almost like she’s not herself anymore. Trying to lay the smack-down on Claire might be a way of sort of feeling inside herself to see if there’s something of the old Faye that she can grasp on to. Whether that’s to comfort herself with old behaviours, or to help convince herself that pre-hospitalisation Faye hasn’t disappeared, I have no idea. I just hope that she’s not going revert back entirely to the prickly, snarky, frankly sometimes unpleasant person that she often used to be.
Ugh, I’m really not expressing myself very well in this post, but does anyone know what I’m getting at here?
If I have you right, your saying that Faye, after undergoing a huge shock to her mental and physical being, went a bit out of character, and not in a bad way. But now after she has taken care of those initial steps, she's finally able to realize that she doesn't quite feel herself yet. And she's scared. And scared people often look for stability. Faye has abandonment issues, so her stability is herself-specifically, her aggressiveness. So she is lashing out. And if that it a correct assessment, then I agree. If I have you all wrong, then let me know.
To add my own thoughts to that, she probably feels weak and frightened(I may be projecting though.) It takes a great deal to accept you need help, and the aftermath can make you feel vulnerable. Part of her lashing out may just be her way of reassuring herself that she is still "master of her domain", as it were. Or at least, still able to intimidate others, so they won't think her fragile or easy to walk all over. A person should be able to feel comfortable in their own home, after all, and not be subjected to irritations by others who don't live there. I mean, I don't get why Claire's ribbing was all that bad-maybe annoying, but just barely. But then, I am not a recovering addict trying to reestablish my place in life. Just being unemployed puts me on edge, nevermind my brain chemicals trying to reset. But then, how was Claire supposed to know? She doesn't know Faye well enough to realize how high strung her nerves are just now. And she isn't nearly so socially competent as to extrapolate it. Didn't she ask Faye if she was stupid at one point? I vaguely remember something like that, but I have bad archive fu.
I don't really agree with how Faye reacted, but I do understand it, sort of.
Two steps forward, one step back.
And, while I think the 'asserting dominance over the smaller, weaker female'-Comment took it way too far, it's fair to tell somebody that they're not your friend and they went overboard. Especially when they aren't - their first interaction mostly Claire telling Faye that she's stupid, and Faye having none of that. They may become friends, but at the moment...
I’m also with you on the archives: I have a bad sense of time and my archive-fu is rubbish! I think you might be right about that though, I seem to remember Claire once asking Faye “I don’t know, are you a bit stupid?” or something similar.
Which is part of my point. Calling Claire out for pushing to far is all well and fine. And probably needed as Claire does tend to push things to far from time to time. That's not what Faye did though. She went into full aggressive bitch mode, as she tends to do. She literally got into Claire's face to the point where Claire was backing up fearfully. That's not a way to establish a friendship. As far as 'you haven't earned the right to sass me', that's pure hypocrisy. Faye sasses everyone. How has she 'earned the right' to do that?
And therein lies the problem, when she said those things to Marten, she was trying to draw his attention to the fact that his girlfriend was tap dancing all over her last nerve. To which he replied with an "I Know, Isn't It Great" attitude. After trying twice and failing, Faye took maters into her own hands, and i really can't fault her for it, because the person who should have been telling Clare to tone it down, was instead passively encouraging her to take it up to eleven.
Except for one thing, that not only isn't the way to establish a friendship, it's completely unacceptable behavior period. If it had been Steve telling Claire off along with threatening body language would people be as quick to defend or does the Claire hatedom run that deep?
(the latter being a shock as the place is virulently anti-Claire but only the resident bitter transphobe has criticised her).
So for Faye to react violently - and it is violently - to someone who was just moments before excited to be helpful to her and does not have a malicious bone in her body...
I still can't work out why she has sculpted a phallus without having the rest of the installation to which she can attach it!
only the resident bitter transphobe has criticised her).
only the resident bitter transphobe has criticised her).
This is absolutely not an okay way to refer to another forumite.
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In fact, if I can channel my inner David Letterman for a moment...
Top 10 Things That Will Happen in QC Before Marten Stands Up To Faye
10. Cosette learns how to juggle.
9. Wil writes a poem that isn't hilariously pretentious garbage.
8. Yelling Bird uses no profanity for a whole strip, apologises for previous outbursts.
7. Hanners puts an ad on Craigslist, "Friend With Benefits Wanted!"
6. Raven returns.
5. Dora begs the rest of the cast to tell her how to run her life.
4. Sven and Hannelore...together at last!
3. Week long arc featuring The Bros meeting their British counterparts, The Lads.
2. Jeph cameos in an extended - and dated - parody of the Architect scene from The Matrix Reloaded.
And the number one thing that will happen in QC before Marten stands up to Faye...
1. The Shame Orb becomes canon.
I actually haven't seen any significant Claire-hate on this strip either here or on the Subreddit (the latter being a shock as the place is virulently anti-Claire but only the resident bitter transphobe has criticised her). I would say that the responses I've seen have been about 7/8 saying Faye was in the wrong or at the very least saying that she is under duress due to her trying to break an addiction and a mistake like this shouldn't be held against her.
And therein lies the problem, when she said those things to Marten, she was trying to draw his attention to the fact that his girlfriend was tap dancing all over her last nerve. To which he replied with an "I Know, Isn't It Great" attitude. After trying twice and failing, Faye took maters into her own hands, and i really can't fault her for it, because the person who should have been telling Clare to tone it down, was instead passively encouraging her to take it up to eleven.Yeah, he really should've controlled his uppity girl. How dare she comment on a metal penis. Girlfriends should be seen and not heard.
Top 10 Things That Will Happen in QC Before Marten Stands Up To Faye
10. Cosette learns how to juggle.
9. Wil writes a poem that isn't hilariously pretentious garbage.
8. Yelling Bird uses no profanity for a whole strip, apologises for previous outbursts.
7. Hanners puts an ad on Craigslist, "Friend With Benefits Wanted!"
6. Raven returns.
5. Dora begs the rest of the cast to tell her how to run her life.
4. Sven and Hannelore...together at last!
3. Week long arc featuring The Bros meeting their British counterparts, The Lads.
2. Jeph cameos in an extended - and dated - parody of the Architect scene from The Matrix Reloaded.
And the number one thing that will happen in QC before Marten stands up to Faye...
1. The Shame Orb becomes canon.
MARTEN (off panel): "Claire, I love you; you're beautiful, funny and intelligent but you've got to stop being so cruel to people!"
CLAIRE: "But..."
MARTEN (off panel): "Putting people down like that isn't cool and it isn't funny! It's unattractive Claire! It makes you look ugly and small!"
And therein lies the problem, when she said those things to Marten, she was trying to draw his attention to the fact that his girlfriend was tap dancing all over her last nerve. To which he replied with an "I Know, Isn't It Great" attitude. After trying twice and failing, Faye took maters into her own hands, and i really can't fault her for it, because the person who should have been telling Clare to tone it down, was instead passively encouraging her to take it up to eleven.Yeah, he really should've controlled his uppity girl. How dare she comment on a metal penis. Girlfriends should be seen and not heard.
Better to say he should have been more attentive to the situation, and reined in his guest.
I don't know, maybe my circle has different social dynamics, but for us, taking responsibility for a guest is a thing. If you invite someone over who gets drunk, and they shit in the sink, you get to clean it up; if your guest blows their stack, and starts punching holes in the walls, or knocking out windows, you pay for the repairs; and if your guest is being an obnoxious ass, who's pissing other people off, it's on you to tell them to knock it off, or take them home. So in my mind, when Faye turns to Marten as the person who invited Claire, and not once but twice calls attention to the fact that her shit is wearing thin, it was his responsibility to take some form of action. Instead he keeps going "I Know" with that "isn't it so wonderful" smile on his face, completely oblivious to the fact that what he finds so cute, and endearing, others find grating on the same level as masturbating with a cheese shredder.
MARTEN (off panel): "Claire, I love you; you're beautiful, funny and intelligent but you've got to stop being so cruel to people!"
CLAIRE: "But..."
MARTEN (off panel): "Putting people down like that isn't cool and it isn't funny! It's unattractive Claire! It makes you look ugly and small!"
Why on earth would ANNNNNY boyfriend make sure to bring up that it makes his girlfriend "Ugly and unattractive"????
MARTEN (off panel): "Claire, I love you; you're beautiful, funny and intelligent but you've got to stop being so cruel to people!"
CLAIRE: "But..."
MARTEN (off panel): "Putting people down like that isn't cool and it isn't funny! It's unattractive Claire! It makes you look ugly and small!"
Why on earth would ANNNNNY boyfriend make sure to bring up that it makes his girlfriend "Ugly and unattractive"????
There is such a thing as 'metaphor', you know. The most beautiful woman in the world can be made ugly in someone's eyes by an ugly streak in their behaviour, just as a person of only mundane looks can become divine in appearance by a beautiful streak in their behaviour.
only the resident bitter transphobe has criticised her).
This is absolutely not an okay way to refer to another forumite.
I feel that I should state, unequivocally, that I was not referring to anyone who is a current member of this forum. Valky was just being funny in her own way.
This is a very complicated situation, and it’s probably best that Faye and Claire figure out how to understand each other in their own time.
Um, wow. It was a joke. No need to take everything so damn literally.
Welcome to the internet, where people can't read your tone! I also saw the way you started off and thought 'Oh, for fuck's sake.'
Because most people who start off like that think their opinion is more than that, that it's the truth and these other dumbasses just can't see it.
As a part of the disagreeing group, you essentially seemed to be saying 'you don't get it, do ya, fuckface?'
Which is not conducive to an open discussion. Any time you want to set users into 'groups' and imagine them as 'other,' just... Don't mention it, because you're probably wrong.
I think that you're being overly-negative there, Gladstone. You're forgetting that Marten, or rather their own respective (if distinctive and differing) love for Marten is a potential unifying force between Claire and Faye (and precious few others exist, if any). We all know how zen he is about his associates' behaviour. If he calls them out, then they've certainly stepped over a line.
I do feel that this is going to build up to Marten standing up to Faye (in his own milquetoast way). While I get that you think it's never going to happen (given their history), Marten is eventually going to have to do so for Faye's own good. I recall him doing it before for other characters (I want to say he told her not to tease Hannelore, but I could have that wrong)
(I want to say he told her not to tease Hannelore, but I could have that wrong)
Um, wow. It was a joke. No need to take everything so damn literally.
Welcome to the internet, where people can't read your tone! I also saw the way you started off and thought 'Oh, for fuck's sake.'
Because most people who start off like that think their opinion is more than that, that it's the truth and these other dumbasses just can't see it.
As a part of the disagreeing group, you essentially seemed to be saying 'you don't get it, do ya, fuckface?'
Which is not conducive to an open discussion. Any time you want to set users into 'groups' and imagine them as 'other,' just... Don't mention it, because you're probably wrong.
Maybe not assume the worst of everyone, then? None of this would have been a thing if you had simply given me the benefit of the doubt instead of assuming I was trying to be a haughty asshole. I'm here to have fun; it's a comic. And yes, I become passionate when I have a "lightbulb" moment; it's not meant to alienate anyone or to make some other group feel like the "other". It's just my opinion.
So, Jeph's gone on an archive binge (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/583718263324041216)! I wonder why? Will Marten or Faye be recalling some unpleasant past embarrassments?
I disagree with you here. Shitting in the sink, punching holes in the wall, and knocking out windows are all things that you should take responsibility for if it’s your guest that did those things. But “being an obnoxious ass”? Claire isn’t being an obnoxious ass. She went too far, and turned joshing into something that was too close to the bone, but that’s a lesson she has to learn, and here might be her place to learn it. Faye could stand to learn that lesson as well. I also don’t agree with your take on Marten here. I was actually pleased that he didn’t overreact, or jump to the defense of either Claire or Faye. This is a very complicated situation, and it’s probably best that Faye and Claire figure out how to understand each other in their own time.
So, Jeph's gone on an archive binge (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/583718263324041216)! I wonder why? Will Marten or Faye be recalling some unpleasant past embarrassments?
He also posted this cat (https://twitter.com/jephjacques/status/583699419956125696) again. Which isn't related to the comic, but AHHH GET IT AWAY!
It's just a cat, right?
Understandable though Faye's actions may be, I think Valkygrrl is right about them.
I won't let it go to my head. Broken clock right twice a day and all that.
I won't let it go to my head. Broken clock right twice a day and all that.
It's possible but all I remember is Marten telling Tai to stop making passes at Hannelore, and Angus telling Faye not to verbally bite Marigold.
Yes, it was definitely Angus who told her to stop teasing Marigold.
I won't let it go to my head. Broken clock right twice a day and all that.
So...you don't want this tiara back? Okay, I'll put it back on the shelf for later.
To be a king and wear a crown is a thing more glorious to them that see it than it is pleasant to them that bear it.
On the other hand.... Yes I shall accept the tiara.
I was trying to find the strip where Dora keeps telling Faye to shut up leading up to the duct tape solution, but failed. :(By an incredible coincidence, I just happened to have reread that strip today.
I can't wait to find out what happened. Is that an electrical outlet tattooed on his arm? And whose blood is that on his shirt?
I was trying to find the strip where Dora keeps telling Faye to shut up leading up to the duct tape solution, but failed. :(By an incredible coincidence, I just happened to have reread that strip today.
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1654
I can't wait to find out what happened. Is that an electrical outlet tattooed on his arm? And whose blood is that on his shirt?
I'm not sure that is blood, the yellow in the same area makes me think of bile, so that could be some kind of food, or drink that came back up all over him. And yes the red inflammation does make me think that's a tattoo, but what i want to know is who gave him the black eye. I mean with that metal hand, even if he is scrawny he's got the equivalent of brass knuckles at the ready at all times. I've seen an 11 year old knock out someone a foot and a half taller, and twice his weight with with a pair of brass knuckles.
I don't think that's a tattoo Clinton has on his arm, but a burn.
Well, if it is a tattoo, it'd support the theory that that's vomit on his shirt (as I imagine he'd have to be pretty drunk to willingly get one, especially one of a light socket).
Dang
Clinton's diary. April 2nd, somewhere between 2004 and 2015.
First date went better thanusuaexpected!
I don't think that's a tattoo Clinton has on his arm, but a burn.
An electrical burn, vomit, a black eye, and I'm pretty sure those aren't his boots (honestly, who rolls up their pants to wear their own boots? Nobody, they buy pants that fit over them)
We don't know how any of this happened to him. Depending on how he came to be in this state, it's either (yes) funny as can be, or absolutely horrifying.
Though I think the primary reaction here is surprise.
Why did cookies act as a reminder? Well, maybe Clinton brought some as a gift for Emily, little knowing how she reacts to concentrated sugar!
The Marten first date disaster refers to his very first date with anyone, in high school if memory serves. He mentioned it while Hannelore was being awkward with Winslow. Combustion was involved.
Are we even sure it's something new and superimposed, be it tattoo or burn, and not simply part of the electric system of his robot-hand? Have we seen Clinton's arm before?
At this time we shall accept your oaths of fealty.
Are we even sure it's something new and superimposed, be it tattoo or burn, and not simply part of the electric system of his robot-hand? Have we seen Clinton's arm before?
I think so, at the lake party.
Tattoo. Why everybody (okay, not everybody, but quite a few) insist that Clinton got a tattoo?
That's a burn. An electrical burn. Like this one:(click to show/hide)
That shit hurts like hell. Been there, done that. At least my mutant powers allowed my skin to heal nicely.
I have a feeling Emily got hold of a marker at some point, and Ican only assume the burning happened afterwards.
'splaining. If he doesn't... Well, to be honest, I'll probably just laugh even harder
'splaining. If he doesn't... Well, to be honest, I'll probably just laugh even harder
So guess what he'll do!
Am I the only one sensing the double standard around tonight's strip? Like, if it had been Claire sitting there all wounded and messed up, the forums would be an inferno of outrage, but since it's Clinton, it's apparently A-OK comedy gold?
Yup, comedy gold! Nah, I rolled my eyes too. I don't really like Clinton, but hurting him is usually played for laughs. It's similar with Pintsize. But lean too close to Claire, and it's as good as beating her up, in terms of Forum outrage.
Are we even sure it's something new and superimposed, be it tattoo or burn, and not simply part of the electric system of his robot-hand? Have we seen Clinton's arm before?
For that matter, I thought I read something that Jeph posted, where the original character design for Clinton was female, but Jeph ended up switching to a male character due to the number of female characters in QC.
And then he went back and reused the earlier female Clinton prototype as Claire.
I still half suspect that panel 4 is just Claire's assumption of what she's going to hear when she asks him how the date went.
Wonder if the black eye came from the prosthetic hand? It's semi-autonomous, and we don't know how it reacts to alcohol...
Wonder if the black eye came from the prosthetic hand? It's semi-autonomous, and we don't know how it reacts to alcohol...
He must already know how it reacts to alcohol, or are you suggesting Clinton has chosen his first date with Emily as the time also to try alcohol for the first time?
Talk about living dangerously... but that would explain the tattoo, the vomit and the black eye.
Also, doesn't it look like the side of Clinton's head has been razor cut close? He had short hair before, but tops and side were the same length. Here it looks like the top is the same, but the side was cut close.
Yup, comedy gold! Nah, I rolled my eyes too. I don't really like Clinton, but hurting him is usually played for laughs. It's similar with Pintsize. But lean too close to Claire, and it's as good as beating her up, in terms of Forum outrage.
I think the Clinton being tormented for being creepy, and thus "deserving" of whatever happens started before Claire was really much of a (if any) presence in the series. She hadn't been introduced when he was acting all stalkerish towards Hanners, and also had to be on the receiving end of a good zap from Momo for getting too close. Like Pintsize, he had pretty much established himself as a butt-monkey in his first several strips. When Clinton and Claire were having their tiff in CoD, my first thought about her was "Ye gawds, there's another one". Thankfully, she grew as a character, and hopefully so will he.
Am I the only one sensing the double standard around tonight's strip? Like, if it had been Claire sitting there all wounded and messed up, the forums would be an inferno of outrage, but since it's Clinton, it's apparently A-OK comedy gold?
I don't think anyone's outright said he's definitely drunk, but more so implied it's a distinct possibility. I know I, at least, was careful not to say it was definite, but was building a theory off of if he was drunk, rather than outright stating he was.Wonder if the black eye came from the prosthetic hand? It's semi-autonomous, and we don't know how it reacts to alcohol...
He must already know how it reacts to alcohol, or are you suggesting Clinton has chosen his first date with Emily as the time also to try alcohol for the first time?
Talk about living dangerously... but that would explain the tattoo, the vomit and the black eye.
I repeat.
Why do people assume Clinton to be drunk. We have no evidence to support that except a non-sequitur
It was this post I was thinking of: http://jephjacques.com/post/4384135243/concept-sketch-of-clinton-the-anthropc-surveyor
in fairness, Clinton has at-best-poor at-worst-irritable social skills, no concept of personal space, no self awareness, jumps to an aggressive stance with no provocation and is generally kind of a tosser.
And we'll get a brief glimpse of Agent K walking away
Monday's Strip: No mention will be ever made of what happened, and no one will every say anything when asked.
Emily will have mysteriously disappeared permanently from the strip, and no one will ask why.
I'm thinking from the general disheveled look and the black eye that that's dirt from the ground on his shirt. Did he get pushed out of a vehicle? Dragged somewhere? Got mistaken for an android...A disturbing thought.
I'm thinking from the general disheveled look and the black eye that that's dirt from the ground on his shirt. Did he get pushed out of a vehicle? Dragged somewhere? Got mistaken for an android...A disturbing thought.
If the world doesn't work like that and it's 'over the line' and 'mean' and 'physical intimidation' if Faye almost gets into Claire's personal space but it's still OK to beat up Clinton, then we have a case of double standards.
If the world doesn't work like that and it's 'over the line' and 'mean' and 'physical intimidation' if Faye almost gets into Claire's personal space but it's still OK to beat up Clinton, then we have a case of double standards.
Is someone saying that it's okay to beat up Clinton for saying something you don't like?
Monday's Strip: No mention will be ever made of what happened, and no one will every say anything when asked.
Emily will have mysteriously disappeared permanently from the strip, and no one will ask why.
Steve also vanishes, and Jeph begins writing a spy-themed spinoff comic starring him and Emily, using their street smarts and tech skills to hunt down and recapture an escaped rogue Vespavenger.
If the world doesn't work like that and it's 'over the line' and 'mean' and 'physical intimidation' if Faye almost gets into Claire's personal space but it's still OK to beat up Clinton, then we have a case of double standards.
Is someone saying that it's okay to beat up Clinton for saying something you don't like?
If an injured Clinton is played for laughs, then it's implicitly saying it's Ok to beat him up for whatever reason.
(Not sure it's being played for laughs, but the tone is a bit jokey.)
Final panel on Friday is Clinton's social media homepage. A status update reads "Clinton Augustus is in a relationship with Emily Azuma".
A tattoo still seems more likely, though.
A tattoo still seems more likely, though.
Why? Even if we assume drunk, which I maintain is a stretch, tattoo parlors OFTEN have rules against allowing drunk clients getting tattoos. As in, drunk Clinton would be sent aay because drunk.
Sharpie seems more likely, so far as I can see.
Something logical involving Emily? That's impossible.
There is a strip, whoch I can't find, where the dialogue went something like thisIt was piercings: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2792
> If an injured Clinton is played for laughs, then it's implicitly saying it's Ok to beat him up for whatever reason.
Not if the injury is both self-inflicted and extremely minor.
In Friday's comic, Clinton clearly HAS been the recipient of serious injuries,
A respectable place won't tattoo him, but Emily knows this guy who knows a guy with a homemade tattoo gun and has a 'parlor' in his basement.
I don't think anyone's outright said he's definitely drunk, but more so implied it's a distinct possibility. I know I, at least, was careful not to say it was definite, but was building a theory off of if he was drunk, rather than outright stating he was.Wonder if the black eye came from the prosthetic hand? It's semi-autonomous, and we don't know how it reacts to alcohol...
He must already know how it reacts to alcohol, or are you suggesting Clinton has chosen his first date with Emily as the time also to try alcohol for the first time?
Talk about living dangerously... but that would explain the tattoo, the vomit and the black eye.
I repeat.
Why do people assume Clinton to be drunk. We have no evidence to support that except a non-sequitur