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Title: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 11 Apr 2015, 21:23
It's astounding
Time is fleeting
Madness takes control.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 11 Apr 2015, 21:28
You keep bringing up Emily "climbing the flagpole."  Is that a sex thing?  It sounds like a sex thing.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 11 Apr 2015, 21:28
This week on QC.

I don't know what we're doing in Vegas, but Emily sure looks pretty in that dress.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2015, 00:30
I'm pretty sure that, whatever happens, Emily is going to be serenely unaware of how strange an evening Clinton has had. The thing awaiting revelation will be whether she asks him on a second date or if she tells him that they can onlybe ffriends, because he is "too weird" for her.

Way out there possibility: She punches out someone for being mean to Clinton. When he catches up, he realises that, beneath the blood on her knuckles, he can see metal.

"Clinton... I'm not a real girl!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 12 Apr 2015, 04:56
Please no. I'm pretty sure that Clinton would get back to creepy stalker mode if he discovered Emily was a bot.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Apr 2015, 06:27
It's astounding
Time is fleeting
Madness takes control.

I've got to keep control.
I remember doing the Time Warp.
Drinking those moments when
The blackness would hit me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 Apr 2015, 08:17
Madness takes control.
I do?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 12 Apr 2015, 08:18
Madness takes control.
I do?

You're only the Method tho. There's a higher something that is taking control.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Apr 2015, 08:19
Madness takes control.
I do?

No, it is toll you take.

I have exact change.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DillyDolly on 12 Apr 2015, 08:33
For some reason, I think Clinton won't get a black eye from the big guy but somewhere else...but if he does? The guy was at least decent enough to let him take off his snazzy new glasses—as both the frames and lens appear in tact when he calls Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 12 Apr 2015, 09:11
The guy was at least decent enough to let him take off his snazzy new glasses—as both the frames and lens appear in tact when he calls Claire.

It IS possible to get a black eye while wearing glasses without the glasses being broken, I can say from experience. Unlikely, but possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Apr 2015, 11:51
So, the glasses may be an improvement, the hair will grow back, and Clinton probably has plenty of Emergency Bowties waiting back at the dorm, but that tattoo of his is going to be much harder to get rid of, and I'm still of the opinion that, regardless of the fuck-it high he's on now, he's going to regret it later.  Hell, the look on his face (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2935) as he was getting it made it clear that he was already full of regret.  It might be a cool design, but it definitely doesn't reflect Clinton's attitude about his prosthetic hand, and I worry that we're going to end the night with Clinton going "well, my new girlfriend is impressed with it, so everything's cool!" 

His reaction when Claire called him seems to indicate that he's definitely not pleased about the events of the date, but there's always the possibility that it's a fake-out, and one smooch on the cheek from Emily will magically make everything better.  Please, no.  Clinton has clearly been embarrassed and humiliated (largely by his own doing), and that needs to be acknowledged as valid, not swept under the rug and treated as a bunch of comic mishaps.  Otherwise, he'll never be anything more than the resident butt monkey (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButtMonkey).  (Warning: TV Tropes link)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 12 Apr 2015, 12:41
So, the glasses may be an improvement, the hair will grow back, and Clinton probably has plenty of Emergency Bowties waiting back at the dorm, but that tattoo of his is going to be much harder to get rid of, and I'm still of the opinion that, regardless of the fuck-it high he's on now, he's going to regret it later.  Hell, the look on his face (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2935) as he was getting it made it clear that he was already full of regret.  It might be a cool design, but it definitely doesn't reflect Clinton's attitude about his prosthetic hand, and I worry that we're going to end the night with Clinton going "well, my new girlfriend is impressed with it, so everything's cool!" 

His reaction when Claire called him seems to indicate that he's definitely not pleased about the events of the date, but there's always the possibility that it's a fake-out, and one smooch on the cheek from Emily will magically make everything better.  Please, no.  Clinton has clearly been embarrassed and humiliated (largely by his own doing), and that needs to be acknowledged as valid, not swept under the rug and treated as a bunch of comic mishaps.  Otherwise, he'll never be anything more than the resident butt monkey (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ButtMonkey).  (Warning: TV Tropes link)

I'm still hoping that the end result is that someone starts in with the "I'm sorry your date was a disaster" line, and he replies with "Are you Kidding me?! That's the most fun i've had in my entire life!" You'll note that once he started to just say "Fuck it" to everything he seems to actually be having a good time. You don't see him have nearly so much fun at the lake house party.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Apr 2015, 13:16
I'm still hoping that the end result is that someone starts in with the "I'm sorry your date was a disaster" line, and he replies with "Are you Kidding me?! That's the most fun i've had in my entire life!" You'll note that once he started to just say "Fuck it" to everything he seems to actually be having a good time. You don't see him have nearly so much fun at the lake house party.

Seems to me his "Fuck it!" is short for "Well, I've already made one giant mistake tonight, so fuck it, how much worse can it get?"  And then he spends the next several hours changing his image as if there's no going back.  Doesn't look like he's having fun, and that smile looks very forced.

Just gonna quote myself here:

I've never experienced the traumatic loss of a hand, but if I did, and if I was able to replace it with a prosthetic hand on the technological level of the QC-verse, then I might actually consider poking mild fun at myself and my condition with a somewhat-lighthearted tattoo showing off that I was a "cyborg."  Maybe.  Obviously I can't really know for sure, but I can guess.  But Clinton isn't as casually easygoing as I imagine myself to be.  Sure, he's not ashamed of his injury, and he's definitely not shy about displaying his cybernetic replacement, but one thing Clinton is definitely NOT, is casually-lighthearted about it.  He's proud of his hand and somewhat confrontational about it (as demonstrated by his refusal to wear a flesh covering), but a jokey tattoo completely destroys that image.  He is going to regret this for a long, long time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 12 Apr 2015, 13:18

I'm still hoping that the end result is that someone starts in with the "I'm sorry your date was a disaster" line, and he replies with "Are you Kidding me?! That's the most fun i've had in my entire life!" You'll note that once he started to just say "Fuck it" to everything he seems to actually be having a good time. You don't see him have nearly so much fun at the lake house party.


And so born is Clinton, adrenaline junkie extraordinaire
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Apr 2015, 13:24
And all he needed was a makeover to bring him out of his shell!

Wait.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2015, 13:34
FWIW, I'm expecting Clinton to have a sort of 'hangover' day where he keeps on expecting people to laugh at him and at his bitterly-regretted choices. By the time he gets to the Library to tell Emily that they can't date anymore (because she brings out the worst in him), he no longer knows if that is what he wants to do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 12 Apr 2015, 14:00
For some reason, I think Clinton won't get a black eye from the big guy but somewhere else...but if he does? The guy was at least decent enough to let him take off his snazzy new glasses—as both the frames and lens appear in tact when he calls Claire.

Or rather, when Claire calls him.

My vote is that it's something completely unrelated to angry dude. It'd be too predictable.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2015, 15:12
You keep bringing up Emily "climbing the flagpole."  Is that a sex thing?  It sounds like a sex thing.


Look to Clinton's right

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2931
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DSL on 12 Apr 2015, 17:22
JUst right this moment occurred to me that "cookies" reminded Claire about Clinton's date. And Clinton's clearly tossed his. Maybe this is a regular thing with him in social situations.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: vforvancouver on 12 Apr 2015, 19:27
Well, one thing we can be sure about: Claire is just as good as Ms. Reed at segues.  http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2409 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2409)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Apr 2015, 19:34
New comic...

...and it looks like the "vomit" was actually blood and beer.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: stephber on 12 Apr 2015, 19:34
Comics up! That explains his shirt.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 12 Apr 2015, 19:37
Hi Eliot!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: starkruzr on 12 Apr 2015, 19:39
Well, I guess I'll be the first one to post it.

I have completely forgotten who Eliot is.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 12 Apr 2015, 19:39
ELLIOTT!  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Apr 2015, 19:39
Why do I think that Elliott's method of "educating" such a person would be making him sit down and listen to a lecture about proper behaviour until he *wished* to just get beaten-up?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: vforvancouver on 12 Apr 2015, 19:40
Elliott is being so calm he's terrifying...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 12 Apr 2015, 19:40
So much excitement!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 12 Apr 2015, 19:41
Well, that was an elliottus ex machina, wasn't it?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 12 Apr 2015, 19:41
Well, I guess I'll be the first one to post it.

I have completely forgotten who Eliot is.  :psyduck:
He worked at the Secret Bakery. He's either moonlighting as a bouncer now, or he's quit at the Secret Bakery.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DrBear on 12 Apr 2015, 19:42
When Eliott lectures you on interpersonal behaviour, you'd better listen.
You wouldn't like to see him when he's angry.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 12 Apr 2015, 19:44
I really enjoy Elliot's character! I hope he becomes a bit more regular!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 Apr 2015, 19:44
So does this explain the black eye? Because to me it looked like Big Guy punched Clinton in the nose.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 12 Apr 2015, 19:46
Why did the robot hand switch sides?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: vforvancouver on 12 Apr 2015, 19:47
Waitaminute...

...aren't Clinnnntonnn's hands mixed on frame 2? I'm trying to figure how his left hand is briefly his right hand. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 12 Apr 2015, 19:47
So does this explain the black eye? Because to me it looked like Big Guy punched Clinton in the nose.

I think being punched in the nose can give people back eyes. although usually both eyes, not just one.

Why did the robot hand switch sides?

That is how hard he was punched!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 Apr 2015, 19:53
Oh my, Elliott is a bit more broad-shouldered than I remember.  Also, taller.  Half a head taller than Punching Guy, who is half a head taller than Emily, who is also tall...it's a shame we don't have any of the regular characters in this strip, for height comparison.  Still, Elliott's bigger than I remember him.  Wouldn't've even recognized him if Jeph hadn't specifically identified him.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 12 Apr 2015, 19:55
I really enjoy Elliot's character! I hope he becomes a bit more regular!

That would depend largely on his diet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 19:57
Waitaminute...

...aren't Clinnnntonnn's hands mixed on frame 2? I'm trying to figure how his left hand is briefly his right hand.

Waaaaait, his robot hand didn't switch sides.... The guy punched him so hard he grew 2 right hands!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 19:59
Well, I guess I'll be the first one to post it.

I have completely forgotten who Eliot is.  :psyduck:
He worked at the Secret Bakery. He's either moonlighting as a bouncer now, or he's quit at the Secret Bakery.

My money's on him quitting the Secret Bakery after Padma (who he had a huge crush on) moved away.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 Apr 2015, 20:09
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1883

He's been moonlighting as a bouncer for a while, because that's before Padma moved away (or even Marten started dating her).
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 12 Apr 2015, 20:10
Eliot, the eye of the storm, the leaf in the breeze, the bouncer at this bar.

He's going to teach you manners.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Tova on 12 Apr 2015, 20:11
Elliot has been working as a bouncer at The Horrible Revelation for some time.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1883

Meh too slow
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 12 Apr 2015, 20:13
Elliot's always been good at looming.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 12 Apr 2015, 20:15
Why do I think that Elliott's method of "educating" such a person would be making him sit down and listen to a lecture about proper behaviour until he *wished* to just get beaten-up?

Exactly what I was thinking. From anyone else that'd be a threat; Elliott probably meant it quite literally.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: PopuluxeCowboy on 12 Apr 2015, 20:17
He worked at the Secret Bakery. He's either moonlighting as a bouncer now, or he's quit at the Secret Bakery.
I don't see why it has to be one or the other. He could easily still be working at the Secret Bakery and is just at that bar having a beer after work.

Any bets on Emily falling for Elliott, the Interpersonal Behavior Explainer?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Elder Sign on 12 Apr 2015, 20:27
I too am impressed how the jerkass dude was able to punch Clinton hard enough to warp reality itself.  Though I suppose in a bar with a Lovecraftian name, such happenings are to be expected; I wouldn't be surprised to find a portal to a nether-dimension in the basement, or in a broom closet.

Any bets on Emily falling for Elliott, the Interpersonal Behavior Explainer?

I have a feeling they're too far apart on the sanity spectrum for that to work out, and/or Elliott might still be residually hung up on Padma.

Though Clinton and Emily and Elliott becoming good friends?  Now that strikes me as very possible.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 20:28
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1883

He's been moonlighting as a bouncer for a while, because that's before Padma moved away (or even Marten started dating her).

They're the same Elliott???

I, I, I genuinely did not realize that...

Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 20:34
I don't see why it has to be one or the other. He could easily still be working at the Secret Bakery and is just at that bar having a beer after work.

His shirt says "SECURITY".

Quote
Any bets on Emily falling for Elliott, the Interpersonal Behavior Explainer?

According to my experience, pretty Asian women don't fall for tall, built, shy guys who have impressive looming ability.  :cry:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Smallest on 12 Apr 2015, 20:41
Well, I guess I'll be the first one to post it.

I have completely forgotten who Eliot is.  :psyduck:
He worked at the Secret Bakery. He's either moonlighting as a bouncer now, or he's quit at the Secret Bakery.

Wil mentioned their bouncer, Eliot at some point, either when Eliot was very incidental or not yet a character.

Re: tattoo, I'm hoping that he commits (even begrudgingly, but hopefully in a 'well that was weird, but cool, tattoo!' way), and goes for touch ups in a while, and they make it look really neat and he'll geek out and like it like it.

Edit- Obviously I missed this, and presumably whatever the too slow refers to:
Elliot has been working as a bouncer at The Horrible Revelation for some time.

http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1883

Meh too slow
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 20:46
Re: tattoo, I'm hoping that he commits (even begrudgingly, but hopefully in a 'well that was weird, but cool, tattoo!' way), and goes for touch ups in a while, and they make it look really neat and he'll geek out and like it like it.

Maybe add a power cord coming from his hand that is plugged into one of the sockets, that'd be cool(er than the simple line drawing that he has now)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 12 Apr 2015, 20:57
Anyone hearing Elliott speak in James Earl Jones' voice at that moment

And that guy was actually going to punch Emily??!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 12 Apr 2015, 21:00
Waitaminute...

...aren't Clinnnntonnn's hands mixed on frame 2? I'm trying to figure how his left hand is briefly his right hand.

Waaaaait, his robot hand didn't switch sides.... The guy punched him so hard he grew 2 right hands!

Except that his left arm is now his right and his right arm is now his left. That was some punch.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 12 Apr 2015, 21:01
Maybe add a power cord coming from his hand that is plugged into one of the sockets, that'd be cool(er than the simple line drawing that he has now)

If he really wants to commit, he could have his whole arm done up as cyborg stuff to match the robot hand. Then the power outlet would just be incidental.

Of course it would be hell for Jeph to draw every time Clinton appeared. So most of the time there'd be long sleeves.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: celticgeek on 12 Apr 2015, 21:03
Jeph has updated Clinton's hands:

Quote from twitter:

Jemf Jecks @jephjacques  ·  23m 23 minutes ago

I fixed Clinton's hands, just wait for the site cache to update
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Tova on 12 Apr 2015, 21:20
I see I'm going to spend the rest of my day saying "Clinnn-tonnnn" to myself.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: grez on 12 Apr 2015, 21:25
ELLIOT HOORAYYY

The one time Elliot did punch someone is one of the funniest things that's happened in this comic, but I think Violence Bro is only in for a stern talking-to
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 12 Apr 2015, 21:31
Anyone hearing Elliott speak in James Earl Jones' voice at that moment

And that guy was actually going to punch Emily??!!!

As an author, I want to say it's clever what Jeph did. Clinton was previously seen as less sympathetic, and one of the best ways to get a character on your audience's side is to have an established like character (in this case Emily) stand up for them. Another way is to have an even less sympathetic character go up against them.

Jeph did both simultaneously and seamlessly by having Emily stand up for Clinton, and then having this douchebag try to punch Emily. It didn't help that the guy had a hair trigger and smashed Clinton for what would otherwise have been a harmless mistake.

Last time someone spilled a cocktail on one of my beloved ties, I looked them dead in the eye, sucked on the stain and said "Now it tastes as good as it looks, right? Ha ha ha. No, but seriously, dry cleaning's expensive." - Hey, I might be amiable, but I'm also broke. See "author" comment above.

So yes. That's what the literature fiend in me would say.

What the Australian in me says is that this sort of guy is far, far too common at about 11pm or so. There were two ways this could have gone had Elliot not intervened, depending on the pejorative he finished that sentence with. He could have said "Little bitch" and one punch would have ended it. Or he could have said "Little cunt" and he wouldn't have stopped at a punch.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 Apr 2015, 21:41
Fixed comic is up.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Apr 2015, 21:55
http://questionablecontent.wikia.com/wiki/Elliot
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: CaptainFish on 12 Apr 2015, 22:20
I like that Emily admonishes bad behaviour from people like most would for a dog. The stain on Clinton's shirt being blood and beer caught me off-guard.

I'm really surprised they ran into an honest-to-goodness, big, overreacting, woman-punching bully. He seemed shitty enough when he punched someone half his size mid-apology, but trying to hit Emily makes him the most straightforward, reprehensible character I can remember seeing in QC. Seems like a guaranteed heel-face turn in the making, unless Clinton does something really abhorrent.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Smallest on 12 Apr 2015, 23:04
I like that Emily admonishes bad behaviour from people like most would for a dog. The stain on Clinton's shirt being blood and beer caught me off-guard.

I'm really surprised they ran into an honest-to-goodness, big, overreacting, woman-punching bully. He seemed shitty enough when he punched someone half his size mid-apology, but trying to hit Emily makes him the most straightforward, reprehensible character I can remember seeing in QC. Seems like a guaranteed heel-face turn in the making, unless Clinton does something really abhorrent.

I know Emily is a bit far out and maybe not totally aware, but she's also apparently tough as nails. I don't expect her to cower or anything, but when someone way bigger than you draws back to hit you, usually you get out of the way? But she just glares and stands her ground. I do really like both that and the scolding though, honestly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Apr 2015, 23:15
Elliot's so helpful, offering free interpersonal behavior lessons like that.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 12 Apr 2015, 23:25
Well, the fight ended before it began, thanks to security, so we'll probably never find out if Emily could handle herself in a tight spot!  Still, the way she acted was nicely in-character; Jeph gets points for emphasising her essentially child-like nature. I've long seen her as something of a child in a woman's body, something that would complicate any relationship.

It's been a very long time since we've seen Elliot. Although, in-universe, it's been only a few months. It's actually possible that he's still a little upset at Padma leaving! That said, IRL, it's been long enough that, if Jeph hadn't identified him, I wouldn't have known him.

An extra thought: is Emily's preferred weapon a rolled up newspaper?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: snubnose on 12 Apr 2015, 23:29
"Theres always a bigger fish" - Qui Gon Jinn, Star Wars Episode I: "The Phantom Menace"
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Dark Matter on 12 Apr 2015, 23:34
Does that make Clinton Jar-Jar or Obi-Wan?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 Apr 2015, 23:35
Elliot's so helpful, offering free interpersonal behavior lessons like that.

He and Momo could open a charm school.

He had some good advice for Marten once, come to think of it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Jab on 12 Apr 2015, 23:46
Wow- that's one douchebag of a dude. Who hits a guy just for THAT? Then raises his fist to a WOMAN?

Emily could deal with some survival skills herself, though- BAD idea to hit a man that much bigger than you, especially when he's in a mood. I've seen girls make that mistake before, and generally speaking, someone else has to intervene FAST.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 12 Apr 2015, 23:55
Please don't tell me that Emily leaves Clinton there, and wanders off with Elliot. I mean, it would explain why she wasn't there when his sister called, but damn is that a shitty thing to do.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 12 Apr 2015, 23:56
I can't imagine Emily doing that AT ALL. But she does have a tendency to surprise...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Apr 2015, 00:04
Please don't tell me that Emily leaves Clinton there, and wanders off with Elliot.

I don't think that it's likely. It's more likely that Emily invites Elliot to join them and Clinton, feeling like a third wheel, storms off.

NOTE: I don't think that is particularly likely either.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 13 Apr 2015, 00:14
I don't think that's likely, no. But she might give Elliot a kiss on the cheek, making Clinton jealous or something.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 13 Apr 2015, 02:29
Elliot's always been good at looming.
His code-name is "Weaver".

What the Australian in me says is that this sort of guy is far, far too common at about 11pm or so.
Yeah... Or at lunchtime on a Friday...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 13 Apr 2015, 03:13
I can see Elliot giving punchy a lecture, but I have to admit that if someone of that size came to you and calmly told you that he's going to teach you about interpersonal relationships my reaction would be to run for my life.

Thankfully, I'm not the person to start a fight because I got some beer spilled on me.

Emily's behavior is noble, yet to me seems pretty stupid. Then again, we don't know exactly how capable she's on a fight. I have a friend that's half my size and I wouldn't dare to hit him because I know he could just beat me up since he has martial arts training.

Plus, she went for the slap. A friend always said that the open hand slap is pretty offensive. Might have to do with the size of that dude's hand, but still. That's extra points for me at least.

Please don't tell me that Emily leaves Clinton there, and wanders off with Elliot.

I don't think that it's likely. It's more likely that Emily invites Elliot to join them and Clinton, feeling like a third wheel, storms off.

NOTE: I don't think that is particularly likely either.

Actually, I could see that happening. Although everything seems to indicate that from this point onwards we have the boots left. Could the boots be... Emily's?

eeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: qc001 on 13 Apr 2015, 03:56
Oh my, Elliott is a bit more broad-shouldered than I remember.  Also, taller.  Half a head taller than Punching Guy, who is half a head taller than Emily, who is also tall...it's a shame we don't have any of the regular characters in this strip, for height comparison.  Still, Elliott's bigger than I remember him.  Wouldn't've even recognized him if Jeph hadn't specifically identified him.

A few strips of Elliot with the reg'lars:

Elliot, Padma, Faye, and Hannelore (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1923)
Elliot and Hannelore (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1930)
MALE OKAPI IN SPAAAAAAAAACE (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1925)
Elliot and lots of people! (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2021)
Elliot and Marten (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2059)

So, his height is sort of ... variable, but he's been shown to be more than a head taller than Hannelore on at least one occasion.

(Also, I just wanted an excuse to look for the comic where Elliot and Hanners are awkwardly standing around at TSB because everybody else left them there!)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kiloku on 13 Apr 2015, 04:03
Emily could deal with some survival skills herself, though- BAD idea to hit a man that much bigger than you, especially when he's in a mood. I've seen girls make that mistake before, and generally speaking, someone else has to intervene FAST.

She looks pretty defiant as he's raising his fist. Not flinching or anything. I think she was about to dodge, in that panel, at the very least.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Apr 2015, 04:37
He's back! As soon as I saw him I said "Is that Elliot? Yes, it's Elliot!" I always liked him.

And now we know his last name. It's Kenobi. "You don't want to punch her. You want to go home and re-think your life."

And yes, I think the chance of Emily leaving with Elliot is quite high.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 13 Apr 2015, 05:09
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

ELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT!

I really like Eliott.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jwhouk on 13 Apr 2015, 06:35
Well, I guess I'll be the first one to post it.

I have completely forgotten who Eliot is.  :psyduck:
He worked at the Secret Bakery. He's either moonlighting as a bouncer now, or he's quit at the Secret Bakery.

Elliot was established as the bouncer of the Horrible Revelation. That may be where Emily and Clin-ton are now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 13 Apr 2015, 07:17
Yeah, that's what threw me off more than anything, I didn't realize that they were at the HR.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 13 Apr 2015, 07:23
Ell-iott is almost as fun to pronounce weird as Clin-tonn is

Plus I *think* he's the only character taller than Emily. I think his height is defined as "tall enough to loom awkwardly over any other characters in the frame"
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 13 Apr 2015, 07:24
Well, it was established that the Horrible Revelation had a bouncer named Elliot, but until now it hadn't been explicitly confirmed it was the same person. Although, given his size, his very collected personality, and the fact that he knows such an advanced technique as a sleeper hold, he fits the job description practically ideally, and few people had any doubt.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 13 Apr 2015, 07:26
I think it's kind of nice that Clinton changed a lot of things about himself so far, but he hasn't once tried to change a thing about Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Apr 2015, 07:45
I don't think it's the Horrible Revelation. I mean it could be, we haven't seen a lot of the inside of the bar. It just seems that Punchy Bro wouldn't be the sort who would hang out there. I could see Clinton going, maybe. Elliott could have changed bars, or works part time in a couple of them. If it is indeed the same Elliott. And really, I could totally see him working at the Revelation... And defusing fights by giving people a stern talking to.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 13 Apr 2015, 08:18
Well, it was established that the Horrible Revelation had a bouncer named Elliot, but until now it hadn't been explicitly confirmed it was the same person.

Though it had been confirmed that Wil and Elliot were acquainted (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2022).

(Wil's comment is also funnier with this context).
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: anahata on 13 Apr 2015, 09:07
I think it's kind of nice that Clinton changed a lot of things about himself so far, but he hasn't once tried to change a thing about Emily.

Well, he wouldn't dare make the implied criticism of Emily, would he?

A slight variation of that thought that had occurred to me: he seems to have spent a lot of money on himself, but has he spent anything on Emily (except perhaps food and drink for both of them) - and does it matter?
Mind you, I guess if Emily breathed a mention of liking something like a pair of shoes she'd just seen in a shop window, Mr. over-eager would be in there like a shot and handing over the cash.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Redball on 13 Apr 2015, 10:46
I'd forgotten about Elliott. I thought Seth, or maybe Sven, had come over from 9ChickweedLane.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: eschaton on 13 Apr 2015, 11:14
The only thing left that needs to happen is for Clinton to get a black eye. 

My prediction is that, once he comes out of his bloody nose daze, Clinton is going to start freaking out about how he didn't come across as "manly" enough to Emily, and worry he'll lose her favor.  Thus he'll try to have a confrontation with Mr. Asshole while Elliott is escorting him out, which will either result in:

1.  Asshole punching him again.
2.  Elliott punching him.
3.  Somehow, Emily punching him. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: thedevilissix on 13 Apr 2015, 11:36
Huzzah for Elliott!    :-D
(Hmmm....I wonder if this is sneaky foreshadowing for Padma making a brief return appearance, mwahawhawhaw *stirs the cauldron of slight probability*)
The only thing that would make this better would be if he turned out to be the brother of Bob from Tai's house party (HOW'RE YOU DOIN' BUDDY)  (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2618).
Together they can be awesome bear-like men who dispense wisdom, give bearhugs full of heart and crushing, have vaguely dangerous drinking games with hammers and fight crime.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 13 Apr 2015, 11:36
The only thing left that needs to happen is for Clinton to get a black eye. 

Uh, you ever had a black eye, dude?

It has to develop. It's not an instant thing where you get up from having your face punched in and your eye's already black. Give it a few minutes. We only saw the instantaneous aftermath in this comic
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Random832 on 13 Apr 2015, 11:44
Wow- that's one douchebag of a dude. Who hits a guy just for THAT? Then raises his fist to a WOMAN?

Okay, let's be real, Clinton is much smaller and weaker than Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 13 Apr 2015, 13:13
Why do I think that Elliott's method of "educating" such a person would be making him sit down and listen to a lecture about proper behaviour until he *wished* to just get beaten-up?
Exactly what I was thinking. From anyone else that'd be a threat; Elliott probably meant it quite literally.
Elliot is awesome. He's the chillest and best-adjusted character of the whole cast (with possible competition from Maurice).

The incident in this comic reminds me of something that happened to me last week-end in a night-club. A guy headbutted me. Accidentally, on the dance-floor. He apologized, we laughed about it, I gently poked fun at him over the accident each time we crossed paths, and we laughed some more. Fun times. My left cheek-bone is still a bit sore from the impact, I noticed it two hours ago, and it made me chuckle from the memories. Clin-ton's blunder was even milder. Some people seem to really look for pretexts to be jerks.

On the other hand, about three years ago, I've come very close to punching a guy in the face, in that same night-club: despite my repeated and more and more angry warnings that I didn't find it funny at all, he kept on touching my hair each time he got the occasion. On the sixth or seventh time, I finally punched him - on the shoulder. I couldn't mobilize enough aggressivity to punch him in the face. He apparently got the message, because he left me alone after that. I half-regret that I didn't actually punch him in the face, since it was what I warned him against on his penultimate assault. On the other hand, I regret more to have let things escalate instead of just going for a bouncer to warn that idiot to stop assaulting me.

Elliot's so helpful, offering free interpersonal behavior lessons like that.

He and Momo could open a charm school.

He had some good advice for Marten once, come to think of it.
You mean "You ought to expect better of people. It encourages you to be a better person yourself." (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2081) for example? It fits so well my current mental state and aspirations that I immediately thought of it when Elliot reappeared in today's comic. I think I'll put it in my sig.

By the way, I'm still shipping Elliot and Lt. Potter.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 13 Apr 2015, 13:14
I don't think it's the Horrible Revelation. I mean it could be, we haven't seen a lot of the inside of the bar. It just seems that Punchy Bro wouldn't be the sort who would hang out there. I could see Clinton going, maybe. Elliott could have changed bars, or works part time in a couple of them. If it is indeed the same Elliott. And really, I could totally see him working at the Revelation... And defusing fights by giving people a stern talking to.

We have enough interior shots of the Horrible Revelation to establish they aren't there, unless they demolished the next door building to put in a window and did some redecorating:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1650 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1650)
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1464 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1464)
Though it does have a pool table that comes and goes:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1429 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1429)

I wonder if the Date Bar could be the other end of the bar from http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1182 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1182), which is a closer match, except for the ceiling.  Either way I think Elliot is off duty and he's bouncing pro bono to help out Clinton, who is clearly of Elliot's tribe in the romance department and flailing in every sense of the term. 

Fake Edit:  Not sure if this phenomenon exists in NoHo, but in my college town if students wander into a townie bar they could pretty easily get a swat or thrown out for a fairly minor bar foul.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 13 Apr 2015, 13:47
I can't imagine Emily doing that AT ALL. But she does have a tendency to surprise...

I don't see Elliot doing that either. He always seemed like a pretty good guy.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 13 Apr 2015, 13:55
Huzzah for Elliott!    :-D
(Hmmm....I wonder if this is sneaky foreshadowing for Padma making a brief return appearance,
I wish this would happen too. But hope deferred maketh the heart sick . . .
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 13 Apr 2015, 14:01
hope deferred maketh the heart sick . . .

Chill, Langston Hughes.

I would be so excited if that happened, though. Claire getting Jealous, Elliot getting a second chance... Excitement!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 13 Apr 2015, 14:03
Elliot's always been good at looming.

Elliot is actually the perfect bouncer: large and intimidating, but actually calm and non-violent. Reminds me of my Tale of the Two Bouncers that I knew a few years ago.

Bouncer One: Big. No, HUGE. Wide. Ugly as homemade sin. Played fullback in college. Voice that sounded like it should be coming from a burning bush. But once you talked to him, he turned out to be one of the sweetest, kindest guys you could ever hope to meet. And he never had to fight even the drunkest, most belligerent patrons. If one of those ham-like hands landed on your shoulder and he said "go," gently but firmly, you went.

Bouncer Two: My roommate. Bore an amazing resemblance to a young Ray Liotta. Slim. Smart-ass. Had to fight ALL THE  DAMN TIME. He always prevailed, but the bar eventually fired him because the point is to avoid trouble.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 13 Apr 2015, 14:04
By the way, I'm still shipping Elliot and Lt. Potter.

Me too!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Natswash on 13 Apr 2015, 14:07
Wow- that's one douchebag of a dude. Who hits a guy just for THAT? Then raises his fist to a WOMAN?

Okay, let's be real, Clinton is much smaller and weaker than Emily.

I dunno metal hands could make getting hit worse than it might otherwise be. I mean he has built in metal knuckles
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 13 Apr 2015, 14:17
Huzzah for Elliott!    :-D
(Hmmm....I wonder if this is sneaky foreshadowing for Padma making a brief return appearance,
I wish this would happen too. But hope deferred maketh the heart sick . . .

I really don't see that Padma returning would have any kind of impact right now. At most there would be a brief moment of confusion and jealousy if she showed up and immediately went for the lip lock with Marten in front of Claire. But I don't see that happening, and I don't see anything less than that would make drama at all. (or maybe a 'So, it's been a year Marten.. would you like to see your child', which Jeph wouldn't do) Marten has moved on, he's not really been seen as the kind of person who secretly pines after someone or goes behind the person he's dating back. And he's very happy with Claire. So Padma showing up would likely at the most tender an awkward explanation of 'um well.. I'm glad to see you again and all, but I'm kind of dating a co-worker now....'
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: FunkyTuba on 13 Apr 2015, 14:22
I don't think it's the Horrible Revelation. I mean it could be, we haven't seen a lot of the inside of the bar.
We have enough interior shots of the Horrible Revelation to establish they aren't there, unless they demolished the next door building to put in a window and did some redecorating:

oh I dunno..  the wall colors are the same, we just haven't seen enough interior wall to see the weird art yet,

plus, Elliott's shirt does say SECURITY, which I think is a bigger hint than any cues we should take from background comparison analysis
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: themacnut on 13 Apr 2015, 16:29
Wow- that's one douchebag of a dude. Who hits a guy just for THAT? Then raises his fist to a WOMAN?

Okay, let's be real, Clinton is much smaller and weaker than Emily.

I dunno metal hands could make getting hit worse than it might otherwise be. I mean he has built in metal knuckles

Two problems with that;

1) Clinton's clearly not the fighting type. Not only is he too small and weak for it, but he can't take a punch either.

2) That metal hand could legally qualify as a deadly weapon precisely because of the damage it could do. Clinton hits someone with it, he'd better be gone before the cops arrive or he's most likely going directly to jail.

With those two points in mind, Clinton's best move after being hit is to fall down, stay down and hope his aggressor isn't into kicking someone when they're down. Or that someone else is nearby to rescue him, which worked this time.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Apr 2015, 19:15
Wow, an actual conversation between Clinton and Emily instead of a Shame Montage.  Although the jury's still out on that black eye and the boots, so don't get too complacent.

(Also, friendly reminder that he's going to regret that tattoo.  But I suspect I'm the only one here who thinks so...)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DrBear on 13 Apr 2015, 19:20
Yes! Tycho Brahe REPRESENT!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Apr 2015, 19:25
And at the end of the night, Clinton's bladder bursts.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 13 Apr 2015, 19:26
So -- he didn't get the black eye at the bar (unless it takes a while to show up), so who could have inflicted it on him?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Apr 2015, 19:29
Comic! I want to see a robot nose!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Daniel Patrick Moynihan on 13 Apr 2015, 19:30
Awkward headbutt kiss hopefully.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 Apr 2015, 19:30
Hey, he's feeling well enough to joke about it. That's a good sign. Or a sign that he's drunk as hell. And he doesn't appear to be particularly drunk.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: ankhtahr on 13 Apr 2015, 19:42
No drunk bubbles.

And he seems almost relaxed now. Almost like he is just being himself right now. His body language seems to say the same. Maybe there's still hope :D
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 13 Apr 2015, 19:46
There's still room for things to go horribly wrong (or horribly right)... at some point Clinton's suspenders are going to come off, and the boots haven't been explained yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 13 Apr 2015, 20:05
Ah man, it's looking like the evening isn't a total loss after all.  A nice walk, a nice conversation.  Much could happen.  Or not.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: CaptainFish on 13 Apr 2015, 20:06
Still no title on the last strip.

Before this altercation, I had gotten the idea in my head that Clinton was actually a scrappy fighter from having to protect his sister over the years. It probably came from the cottage arc when Clinton aggressively took the coffee from Marten as if he was expecting something to go bad. The age gap and a dozen other signs should've disabused me of that notion, but there it is.

Ell-iott is almost as fun to pronounce weird as Clin-tonn is

Plus I *think* he's the only character taller than Emily. I think his height is defined as "tall enough to loom awkwardly over any other characters in the frame"

Elliott and Ira Gamagori should hang out.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 13 Apr 2015, 20:28
see, the real twist is that the scene of Clinton sitting dejected on the curb is a week away from current events. It will be a slow burn.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 13 Apr 2015, 20:32

Elliott and Ira Gamagori should hang out.

Eye-ra..... eyyyyyyyyye ra! Eye RA. Eye of Ra. I see the sun god..... ooooo frogs!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 13 Apr 2015, 20:57
Well, this has been going better than I expected. I'd thought Clinton would do some horribly off-putting thing that would make Emily ditch him in disgust. Instead, they seem to be bonding over his makeover and the bar incident. He could still blow it, I suppose, but I'm hoping not.

There's still some mayhem to come; the black eye conceivably could have come from the punch, or it might be still to come from the bully returning to take revenge now they are out of the bar. I'm inclined to think the boots are Clinton's pre-existing footwear, and all that'll happen is he's going to pull up his pant legs for some reason. Maybe as part of a fight with the bully since Elliot is out of the picture?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 13 Apr 2015, 20:59
Wow, an actual conversation between Clinton and Emily instead of a Shame Montage.  Although the jury's still out on that black eye and the boots, so don't get too complacent.

(Also, friendly reminder that he's going to regret that tattoo.  But I suspect I'm the only one here who thinks so...)

I'm thinking the boots and black eye are related. He gets something he's not used to walking in, trips over his own feet (or over Emily's feet going in for a kiss) and gets the black eye by hitting something on the way down.

Which reminds me of the time I got a nosebleed after a particularly clumsy kiss...  :laugh:

If he stays as relaxed as he is in this frame, I think the night isn't going to end up that badly (or at least will end up turning out better than he thinks given all that's gone down). I could see him being glum and dejected and being completely surprised when Emily asks if/when they're going out again.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 13 Apr 2015, 21:18
After seeing the last week + of the date I'm kinda thinking that after Clinton sends Claire a pic he will say he had the most awesome night ever. Or something to that effect. Because it seems to me the more of the "awful" things that happen to him the more he seems to be able to loosen up and actually enjoy the date.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Schmorgluck on 13 Apr 2015, 21:23
Hey, he's feeling well enough to joke about it. That's a good sign. Or a sign that he's drunk as hell. And he doesn't appear to be particularly drunk.
Well, remember that he blew up his hand with fireworks. Pain is relative.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 13 Apr 2015, 21:25
Not so sure Tycho Brahe would be so much into that whole scene. I mean, if they made them in silver, then totally.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Penquin47 on 13 Apr 2015, 21:34
Not so sure Tycho Brahe would be so much into that whole scene. I mean, if they made them in silver, then totally.

Silver?  How tacky.  I believe you're looking for *gold*.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Apr 2015, 21:36
If he stays as relaxed as he is in this frame, I think the night isn't going to end up that badly (or at least will end up turning out better than he thinks given all that's gone down). I could see him being glum and dejected and being completely surprised when Emily asks if/when they're going out again.

After seeing the last week + of the date I'm kinda thinking that after Clinton sends Claire a pic he will say he had the most awesome night ever. Or something to that effect. Because it seems to me the more of the "awful" things that happen to him the more he seems to be able to loosen up and actually enjoy the date.

But but but the tattooooooooo.

He's going to haaaaaate iiiiiiiiit.

*huff*






Fine, I'll let myself out.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2015, 21:45
Perhaps The Doctor needed an Emergency Braces Donation.

Or Emily borrowed them to climb that Flagpole.




So far, so good
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 13 Apr 2015, 21:46
Not so sure Tycho Brahe would be so much into that whole scene. I mean, if they made them in silver, then totally.

Silver?  How tacky.  I believe you're looking for *gold*.

Huh, according to google, it was a combination of the two. Gold is too snooty, silver too tacky, but put 'em together...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 13 Apr 2015, 21:51
Still no title on the last strip.

In the  archive list the title is "Clinton's Bizarre Adventure" (http://questionablecontent.net/archive.php)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: PopuluxeCowboy on 13 Apr 2015, 21:52
I would actually like to see Clin-ton and Emily become a couple. I think that would be hilarious, and maybe even good for both of them.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 13 Apr 2015, 21:55
In the  archive list the title is "Clinton's Bizarre Adventure" (http://questionablecontent.net/archive.php)

Yeah, that's what it was before he edited it.

Which of course means this is Clinton in 40 years.

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2eqdjs6.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 13 Apr 2015, 21:56
And he has two Cyborg Hands by that stage?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 13 Apr 2015, 22:07
I'm not sure why everybody is going on about Clinton's suspenders. They aren't missing in the post date view he just has them down off his shoulders.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 13 Apr 2015, 22:09
And he has two Cyborg Hands by that stage?

It's japanese, so it goes right to left.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 13 Apr 2015, 22:15

But but but the tattooooooooo.

He's going to haaaaaate iiiiiiiiit.

*huff*






Fine, I'll let myself out.

Not all decisions made rashly are regretted. It all depends on the long term. If say Clinton and Emily do end up together he could see it as a fond reminder of the beginning of a life changing adventure, actually he could see it that way regardless of his future relationship status.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 13 Apr 2015, 22:34
I dunno, it still feels out of character for Clinton and contrary to how he views his prosthetic.  He takes great pride in having a cybernetic limb, and a power outlet tattoo seems much too jokey/irreverent, and I hate to think that one date with a pretty girl is going to change that about him.

Still, there's been so much back-and-forth between ordinary date stuff and Big Mistakes that I'm getting whiplash, and despite the last panel of #2931 it's hard to tell just how this date is going to end, or how Clinton will feel about it when it does.  I just feel like erasing all of Clinton's mistakes with one peck on the cheek will completely cheapen the experience.  But maybe I'm being too cynical about all this.



(And I'm going to stomp my little feet until someone agrees with me on this.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Energia on 13 Apr 2015, 22:48
I checked back to the first cartoon after the time skip, and his black shoes didn't have as much detail at the front that the boots do, but that might be a distance-detail thing.  Also, chicken smells like fish.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Jab on 13 Apr 2015, 22:59
Wow- that's one douchebag of a dude. Who hits a guy just for THAT? Then raises his fist to a WOMAN?

Okay, let's be real, Clinton is much smaller and weaker than Emily.
Hah- well possibly, though Emily's still skinny as a beanpole, and would blow over in a stiff breeze- she's the exact same width Clinton is in the most-recent strip. Neither of them is built for fighting- also she's practically sticking her chin out and asking to be hit in that last panel- not the proper stance of a fighter. If the guy actually followed through with his punch, she'd be in trouble (especially if he doesn't stop at the one).
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 13 Apr 2015, 23:24
Well, at least he can joke about it... Or maybe he's being serious! Perhaps inscrutability of seriousness is another thing that they have in common. Still, it's a good sign that the initial desperate nervousness has died away. Maybe Clinton's sense of the ridiculous has taken over?

We still have to find out about the rest. I wonder if there i s one more dare awaiting Clinton tonight and, with it, lost shoes? Riding wheelie bins down a hill and into an ornamental pond in the park maybe?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Tova on 13 Apr 2015, 23:47
I don't think it's the Horrible Revelation. I mean it could be, we haven't seen a lot of the inside of the bar. It just seems that Punchy Bro wouldn't be the sort who would hang out there. I could see Clinton going, maybe. Elliott could have changed bars, or works part time in a couple of them. If it is indeed the same Elliott. And really, I could totally see him working at the Revelation... And defusing fights by giving people a stern talking to.

We have enough interior shots of the Horrible Revelation to establish they aren't there, unless they demolished the next door building to put in a window and did some redecorating:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1650 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1650)
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1464 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1464)
Though it does have a pool table that comes and goes:
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1429 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1429)

I wonder if the Date Bar could be the other end of the bar from http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1182 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1182), which is a closer match, except for the ceiling.  Either way I think Elliot is off duty and he's bouncing pro bono to help out Clinton, who is clearly of Elliot's tribe in the romance department and flailing in every sense of the term. 

Fake Edit:  Not sure if this phenomenon exists in NoHo, but in my college town if students wander into a townie bar they could pretty easily get a swat or thrown out for a fairly minor bar foul.

It looks like a view from behind the bar of the front door, which I think is simply a perspective we've not yet seen.

I'm not convinced he's off duty... his shirt seems to say "SECURITY."

Sorry for the late response. Also, my ability to post from my phone sucks.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Half Empty Coffee Cup on 14 Apr 2015, 00:59
I dunno, it still feels out of character for Clinton and contrary to how he views his prosthetic.  He takes great pride in having a cybernetic limb, and a power outlet tattoo seems much too jokey/irreverent, and I hate to think that one date with a pretty girl is going to change that about him.

Still, there's been so much back-and-forth between ordinary date stuff and Big Mistakes that I'm getting whiplash, and despite the last panel of #2931 it's hard to tell just how this date is going to end, or how Clinton will feel about it when it does.  I just feel like erasing all of Clinton's mistakes with one peck on the cheek will completely cheapen the experience.  But maybe I'm being too cynical about all this.



(And I'm going to stomp my little feet until someone agrees with me on this.)
I actually see him as likely to go in for a "touch-up" at a later date and modifying it such that he comes back out of the tattoo parlor with a proud mechanical-themed sleeve, with the outlet edited to the extent that it's no longer recognizable as such, but rather is split into being one mechanical component here, another mechanical component there.

After that, he'd probably be a-ok with it on all levels. Except for the faces he made in pain at the tattoo artist while it was being done.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Apr 2015, 01:25
A Prediction:
Clinton's black-eye is self inflicted. I'm guessing that he's going to crash into the flagpole whilst running for some reason. I've done something similar whilst distracted; my glasses survived but my dignity didn't and I got a nice shiner for my troubles.

To me, the great unanswered mystery is the boots and the fact that Clinton's trousers seem to have changed from formal to jeans.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 14 Apr 2015, 02:14
You've got to love a comic that throws in a Tyco Brahe reference. I'm sure Clinton knows all about him.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 14 Apr 2015, 03:36
You've got to love a comic that throws in a Tyco Brahe reference. I'm sure Clinton knows all about him.  :claireface:
Well if we're going to go for historical references to prosthetic noses, we may as well have jokes almost as old.

Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 14 Apr 2015, 04:09
Emily is fascinated with robotics and AI in general, which bodes well for a potential relationship with Clinton. However, there are still a few things from last week's revelation that need explaining:
I think there is still hope, but we need to be patient a few days more.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: MrNumbers on 14 Apr 2015, 05:47
After seeing the last week + of the date I'm kinda thinking that after Clinton sends Claire a pic he will say he had the most awesome night ever. Or something to that effect. Because it seems to me the more of the "awful" things that happen to him the more he seems to be able to loosen up and actually enjoy the date.

Calling it now. The picture he takes is of a smiling Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 14 Apr 2015, 05:48
How did the date go? Admittedly, Clinton looked rather disappointed, but that may be due to misinterpreting Emily's strange ways. Emily's idea of a goodbye is a quick smooch, and then running away.
Or perhaps after all that's happened, Emily decides she doesn't want a second date, because Clinton is too weird.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Apr 2015, 05:50
A part of me is expecting the last picture in this arc to be similar to the publicity still from When Harry Met Sally. A wide-eyed Clinton lying in bed, whilst a blissfully smiling Emily is hugging him to her (although their height differential would give the picture a slightly comedic feel).

That aside, I'm calling it now that this arc will continue into next week in order to explain the boots and black eye. I'm thinking we'll see the rest of Claire's call to Clinton on Wednesday next week.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 14 Apr 2015, 06:45
That aside, I'm calling it now that this arc will continue into next week in order to explain the boots and black eye. I'm thinking we'll see the rest of Claire's call to Clinton on Wednesday next week.

I'm for that, if only because this "tragic comedy" date is helping to offset the candy coated saccharin that was the Martin/Claire date.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 14 Apr 2015, 07:05
Wasn't someone saying recently that the QC characters don't say things like "hee hee" anymore?

HAH! IN YOUR FACE!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 14 Apr 2015, 08:07
Emily is fascinated with robotics and AI in general, which bodes well for a potential relationship with Clinton. However, there are still a few things from last week's revelation that need explaining:
  • The black eye
  • Clinton's boots
  • Where is Emily?
  • How did the date go? Admittedly, Clinton looked rather disappointed, but that may be due to misinterpreting Emily's strange ways. Emily's idea of a goodbye is a quick smooch, and then running away.
I think there is still hope, but we need to be patient a few days more.

Clinton is wearing different trousers and footwear while saying "Let me send you a picture" Therefore at some stage inthe evening he took off the old ones. This is usually a sign that a date is going very well indeed . . . . but I bet there is some other explanation!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Apr 2015, 08:12
I'm calling it: The explanation for the change in pants will involve a loud rrrrrrriiiiiiiiip sound.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Xader on 14 Apr 2015, 09:29
I'm not sure he does change pants. I'm seeing black/dark gray pants and suspenders in both the "let me send you a picture" frame, and all subsequent comics.

The boots are definitely different, though. So we have those and the black eye yet to come (and Emily's absence, though I fear that this is directly related to the black eye).
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 14 Apr 2015, 09:32
Well. now, hold the phone.  A series of tweets from Jeph on Tuesday, just before noon Eastern time, seem to indicate that he may have simply forgotten to give Clinton a black eye after the bar incident.

Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2015, 09:47
Oops.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 14 Apr 2015, 09:55
About 11:50 Eastern time, Jeph tweeted: "Thank you to the reader who reminded me about Clinton's black eye!"
Someone responded: "I just assumed Clinton was going to be punched *again* before the end of the story."
Jeph replied: "haha I should be so cruel"
Later, another friend tweeted: "I just assumed the black eye would be the one detail never explained. "I don't want to talk about it"
To which Jeph replied "F**K that'd be PERFECT," and then: "Stuff like this is tricky to keep straight when you are your own editor."
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Sullivan on 14 Apr 2015, 10:02
Black eyes do take a little while to develop, so it's not really a mistake for it not to have shown up yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 14 Apr 2015, 10:08
The boots are definitely different, though.

Are they? He didn't just roll up his hems?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 14 Apr 2015, 11:36
I thought the same, but if you compare the two comics where we have shots of the front of his footwear, the toe area in 2931 is different than in 2933. Not sure if that's distance, or different footwear.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 14 Apr 2015, 11:54
WRT the pants and boots, why would you change those but keep the stained shirt? I'm voting for rolling up the hems of the same pants, boots were always there.

If there's no other brawling to be done, why are the suspenders off the shoulders in the cell phone pic? Also, why did Clinton remove the bandage from his new tattoo?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 14 Apr 2015, 12:18
WRT the pants and boots, why would you change those but keep the stained shirt? I'm voting for rolling up the hems of the same pants, boots were always there.

If there's no other brawling to be done, why are the suspenders off the shoulders in the cell phone pic? Also, why did Clinton remove the bandage from his new tattoo?

Perhaps the suspenders simply got irritating, this has been an extremely long date.  As for the bandage he may have taken it off to "show off" the tattoo.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Azumas_Revenge on 14 Apr 2015, 14:12
I think I've just now decided that Emily is voiced by Starfire from the Teen Titans animated series. At least that how she sounds in my head.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Deadman on 14 Apr 2015, 14:49
Liking Clintons face in panel 3
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Apr 2015, 15:12
Well. now, hold the phone.  A series of tweets from Jeph on Tuesday, just before noon Eastern time, seem to indicate that he may have simply forgotten to give Clinton a black eye after the bar incident.

Okay, back in the TARDIS, we're gonna set things right.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Apr 2015, 15:19
I'll take the DeLorean.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 14 Apr 2015, 15:55
Okay, back in the TARDIS, we're gonna set things right.

whoooooa you have a timer traveling phone booth too? Excellent!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Apr 2015, 16:16
I'll take the DeLorean.

I'd challenge you to a race, but I'm not sure Bessie can do 88 MPH...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 14 Apr 2015, 16:26
I'll take the DeLorean.

I'd challenge you to a race, but I'm not sure Bessie can do 88 MPH...


It occurs to me that 'Miles per hour' is a pretty useless term when you're talking about straight up changing the shape of an hour...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 14 Apr 2015, 16:36
I'll take the DeLorean.

I'd challenge you to a race, but I'm not sure Bessie can do 88 MPH...


It occurs to me that 'Miles per hour' is a pretty useless term when you're talking about straight up changing the shape of an hour...

Has more to do with velocity...

And since the Delorean, Phone Booth, and Blue Police Box have been taken, I'll have to settle for getting smacked upside the head with a crowbar by some guy nicknamed "Hercules"... Hope I land in the right era, Merlin is a dick.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 14 Apr 2015, 16:45
*hops into the Way Back Machine with a talking dog and kid*
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 14 Apr 2015, 16:49
since the Delorean, Phone Booth, and Blue Police Box have been taken, I'll have to settle for getting smacked upside the head with a crowbar by some guy nicknamed "Hercules"... Hope I land in the right era, Merlin is a dick.

Lol and I'm over here like

(http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/dlp%20encounter/New%20album%2045/rod-taylor-time-machine.jpeg~original) (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/loaloauk/media/dlp%20encounter/New%20album%2045/rod-taylor-time-machine.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Apr 2015, 17:18
I'll take a vortex manipulator.

Hello Sweetie.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Apr 2015, 17:49
Spoilers
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Apr 2015, 17:57
I'll take a vortex manipulator.

Fresh off the wrist of a handsome time agent!

...I said off the wrist!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DSL on 14 Apr 2015, 19:03
Sigh. ... OK, round the sun at Warp One.
Again.
... is that a Bird of Prey carrying a couple of whales?

The guy in the F-104 is going to be so pissed.

(Back at the bar)

(Sudden flash of blue light)
CLINTON: "Oh boy ... "
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 14 Apr 2015, 19:09
Comic's up.

I fear for what their second date is going to be like.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Apr 2015, 19:25
I knew it.  A kiss on the cheek, and The Power Of Love wins the day and cancels out anything bad that happened.

Goddamnit, it's a Steven Moffat ending.





You can have my cynicism when you pry it from my cold, dead, unloved hands.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Penquin47 on 14 Apr 2015, 19:27
I knew it.  A kiss on the cheek, and The Power Of Love wins the day and cancels out anything bad that happened.

Goddamnit, it's a Steven Moffat ending.

Who says it's over yet?  Clin-ton may have second thoughts once away from the pretty girl in the sundress so that Fuck It Mode ends.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Apr 2015, 19:28
Who says it's over yet?  Clin-ton may have second thoughts once away from the pretty girl in the sundress so that Fuck It Mode ends.

I like the way you think.  We should be friends.

Edit: I think you've got something there.  He'll start to saunter away, feeling all confident, then turn it into a Martenwalk (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2058) when Emily's "You're so spontaneous!" sinks in and he realizes the entire date was a lie, he's stuck with a tattoo he never wanted, and that was his best bowtie.

Yessssss.  The regretttttt.  He feeeeelllssss iiiiiiitttttt....
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 14 Apr 2015, 19:37
I'll take the DeLorean.

I'd challenge you to a race, but I'm not sure Bessie can do 88 MPH...


It occurs to me that 'Miles per hour' is a pretty useless term when you're talking about straight up changing the shape of an hour...

Has more to do with velocity...

And since the Delorean, Phone Booth, and Blue Police Box have been taken, I'll have to settle for getting smacked upside the head with a crowbar by some guy nicknamed "Hercules"... Hope I land in the right era, Merlin is a dick.

Well damn, I guess I'm left with this.
(http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/76351.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Apr 2015, 19:47
you could have used the hot tub instead of the tattoo.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TieDyeKat on 14 Apr 2015, 19:58
you could have used the hot tub instead of the tattoo.

Why you... bite my shiny metal... daffodil.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: improvnerd on 14 Apr 2015, 20:03
What was so bad that happened to Clinton? (Other than getting punched.) He just did some stupid impulsive stuff, and the sky didn't fall. That's what college is supposed to be about anyway. Clinton just managed to squeeze it all into one night.

Whatever happens with Emily in the future, Clinton's horizons have been broadened. The first part of the night was him trying to be interesting, but the later part I think was really him.

Plus, in his dorm he just went from being the weird guy with the artificial hand to the cool guy with the tattoo and artificial hand.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: grez on 14 Apr 2015, 20:06
I hope Emily doesn't get too attached to spontaneous clinton, because I'm not sure how much more spontaneity he has in him... I mean what's left to spont that he hasn't already sponted?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Apr 2015, 20:08
Prince Albert?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 14 Apr 2015, 20:08
you could have used the hot tub instead of the tattoo.

Why you... bite my shiny metal... daffodil.
Pimpmobile!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 14 Apr 2015, 20:43
I'm guessing Clinton's evening isn't over yet. Pants need to be rolled up, bandage needs to come off, and it's not dark yet. Still, so far, it's gone much better than I expected. Turns out Emily's good for Clinton (as in, being around her has made him a better person). Woo hoo.

Will they become a thing? Will she end up loving him the way he is? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2858) (Apparently not, but she may end up loving him after adjustments.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 14 Apr 2015, 21:27
Clinton's made one of the classic blunders: letting his guard down around a pretty girl.  I have little doubt he'll pay for it, in some fashion, but we got some character development out it.

We didn't get much from Emily, but I gather no one really expected that.  And that leaves me a little disappointed.  I mean, I get this was Clinton's arc, but... she was there, as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 14 Apr 2015, 21:38
What was so bad that happened to Clinton?

[...]

Plus, in his dorm he just went from being the weird guy with the artificial hand to the cool guy with the tattoo and artificial hand.

Everyone keeps forgetting  this comic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2935).  Despite the Fuckitall-induced 180 he pulled afterward, he's clearly not happy with his decision, and in a few minutes he's going to come crashing down from his high and realize he made a giant mistake.  I know it's nice to think that Clinton will be happy he did a bunch of cool things and impressed a girl, but for him to make it through the entire evening regret-free just feels completely cheap and unrealistic.  Whoo-hoo, Clinton leveled up!  No.  Doesn't work like that, and I think I would lose a bit of respect for Jeph if he went that route and didn't give Clinton a chance to acknowledge his mistakes, actually feel some regret and/or embarrassment, face the insecurities that caused him to be "so spontaneous" around Emily, and maybe, just maybe, grow as a character.

it's not dark yet.

It's dark. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2938)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 14 Apr 2015, 21:41
It's dark. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2938)

You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 14 Apr 2015, 21:53
it's not dark yet.

It's dark. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2938)

But Clinton himself isn't in shadow. In the cellphone frame here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2931), he's shaded darker, not shown in his normal day-glo flesh tones. I think there's something still going to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Truec on 14 Apr 2015, 22:16
it's not dark yet.

It's dark. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2938)

But Clinton himself isn't in shadow. In the cellphone frame here (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2931), he's shaded darker, not shown in his normal day-glo flesh tones. I think there's something still going to happen.

That frame confuses me.  Clinton's shaded like he's in the dark, but there's a big shadow from him suggesting a light source to his left (right of panel).
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 14 Apr 2015, 22:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Platypodes on 14 Apr 2015, 22:44
This could be Clinton growing through healthy experimentation, it could be Clinton fucking up and being untrue to himself.... or it could be a mixed-up combination of the two.  The two often do occur together in the rush of the moment, and afterwards one ponders it and says, "I feel good about that thing, that was awesome, but that one, ugh, never again."
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 14 Apr 2015, 23:11
The most that we can say at this point is that we don't know why Clinton was so upset about the way everything went when he spoke to Claire.

Personally, I'm not entirely in favour of the 'second thoughts' theory. Yes, Emily likes his spontaneity ( which, I argue, was always there, just waiting for the right stimulus to manifest itself - specifically, a pretty girl in a sundress). However, I'm not sure that Clinton can survive much more spontaneity. That said, he doesn't strike me as the pessimistic introspective sort like Marten. He may regret but I have a feeling that he'll at least try to be positive.

Additionally, there was something about Clinton's dishevelled state when Claire called that makes me think that he has one remaining misadventure awaiting him. Not Emily's fault but, nonetheless, rounding off the evening in fine style. I'm thinking something ridiculous like Punchy Bro throwing his keys in someone's yard pool for getting him tossed out of the bar (no assault - he decided that Elliot was right in that matter)!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Storel on 14 Apr 2015, 23:13
It's dark. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2938)

And we're wearing sunglasses.

Hit it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 14 Apr 2015, 23:30
It's dark. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2938)

You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.  There is a small mailbox here.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: PopuluxeCowboy on 14 Apr 2015, 23:31
since the Delorean, Phone Booth, and Blue Police Box have been taken, I'll have to settle for getting smacked upside the head with a crowbar by some guy nicknamed "Hercules"... Hope I land in the right era, Merlin is a dick.

Lol and I'm over here like

(http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/dlp%20encounter/New%20album%2045/rod-taylor-time-machine.jpeg~original) (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/loaloauk/media/dlp%20encounter/New%20album%2045/rod-taylor-time-machine.jpeg.html)
If it's all the same to you guys, I'll take my time tunnel and meet you there. I might stop by the nudists on North Pine Island Road first, for some cookies and a quick hand of cards, though.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8710/16531851164_12da72709d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rbS4oC)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 14 Apr 2015, 23:51
Additionally, there was something about Clinton's dishevelled state when Claire called that makes me think that he has one remaining misadventure awaiting him.

Well, he does still have to fight Dio.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: CaptainFish on 14 Apr 2015, 23:53
Incoming fabulous Clinton poses!?
Fabulous Clinton poses.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 15 Apr 2015, 00:09
since the Delorean, Phone Booth, and Blue Police Box have been taken, I'll have to settle for getting smacked upside the head with a crowbar by some guy nicknamed "Hercules"... Hope I land in the right era, Merlin is a dick.

Lol and I'm over here like

(http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz352/loaloauk/dlp%20encounter/New%20album%2045/rod-taylor-time-machine.jpeg~original) (http://s843.photobucket.com/user/loaloauk/media/dlp%20encounter/New%20album%2045/rod-taylor-time-machine.jpeg.html)
If it's all the same to you guys, I'll take my time tunnel and meet you there. I might stop by the nudists on North Pine Island Road first, for some cookies and a quick hand of cards, though.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8710/16531851164_12da72709d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rbS4oC)

I'll go to a hotel in Michigan redecorate a room concentrate really hard and meet you all there. I just hope I'm not undone by a penny that I forgot I brought along.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 15 Apr 2015, 00:25
Everyone keeps forgetting  this comic (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2935).  Despite the Fuckitall-induced 180 he pulled afterward, he's clearly not happy with his decision, and in a few minutes he's going to come crashing down from his high and realize he made a giant mistake.  I know it's nice to think that Clinton will be happy he did a bunch of cool things and impressed a girl, but for him to make it through the entire evening regret-free just feels completely cheap and unrealistic.  Whoo-hoo, Clinton leveled up!  No.  Doesn't work like that, and I think I would lose a bit of respect for Jeph if he went that route and didn't give Clinton a chance to acknowledge his mistakes, actually feel some regret and/or embarrassment, face the insecurities that caused him to be "so spontaneous" around Emily, and maybe, just maybe, grow as a character.

You keep thinking that regret in the moment translates to regret in perpetuity, and that's not necessarily the case. It's just as likely to regret something in the moment, but look back on it with fondness, as it is to enjoy something in the moment, and look back in regret.

If it's all the same to you guys, I'll take my time tunnel and meet you there. I might stop by the nudists on North Pine Island Road first, for some cookies and a quick hand of cards, though.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8710/16531851164_12da72709d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rbS4oC)

Careful, i hear that every iteration of that one has a catastrophic rate of failure that leaves people lost in the time space continuum. In fact i think the last person to try it was named Sam Becket.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Apr 2015, 01:06
Seriously, has no-one else had this experience: You have an ordinary or even good day. Hell, it could be a great day but you have a series of bad experiences and suddenly you're only seeing the bad side of everything that happened to you today. I'm wondering if something like that is going to happen to Clinton.

He's going to be upset about everything. He'll spend most of the next morning complaining about it to Claire in the Library right until:

EMILY: "Good monring Clinnn-tonnn!" ((Smooch))

CLAIRE: "Why did you just kiss my brother?"

EMILY: "Shouldn't I kiss my boyfriend?"

((Brief mass paralysis followed by CLINTON performing a disco shuffle across the floor))

However, yes, there is a real risk that Clinton may decide that he needs to be spontaneous on every date and that could lead to... trouble.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 15 Apr 2015, 01:17
I am wondering if today's strip is the end of this arc, or if Clinton has more to come in tomorrow's strip. I find it hard to reconcile today's (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2939) strip with this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2931). One possibility is that Clinton will have second thoughts, and Emily is going to wonder why Clinton never calls her again. Another possibility is that Clinton falls madly in love with Emily, while Emily is blissfully unaware as always. On their next date, she will punch him when he tries to kiss her.

Please note the similarity of today's (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2939) strip and this (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2736) strip. Emily is easy on smooches. With Marten, it appeared to be completely innocent (although it generated some speculation at the time in the Forum). With Clinton, the pink background may have significance (although this may be just from Clinton's point of view). What Emily is thinking is impossible to know.

Clinton's tattoo is not unique, btw:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d9/61/46/d96146e4828fb6f0051cf50200194414.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 15 Apr 2015, 04:17
I've said it before in other topic threads, American power outlets always look upset.

Clinton's tattoo is not unique, btw:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d9/61/46/d96146e4828fb6f0051cf50200194414.jpg)
"What do you mean I'm not unique?"
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Apr 2015, 04:20
Why shouldn't they be upset? We're always shoving things into their eyes!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 15 Apr 2015, 04:21
EMILY: "Good monring Clinnn-tonnn!" ((Smooch))

CLAIRE: "Why did you just kiss my brother?"

EMILY: "Shouldn't I kiss my boyfriend?"
YES! Please, let it happen! (Which is why it is not going to happen.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Xader on 15 Apr 2015, 12:54
The boots are definitely different, though.

Are they? He didn't just roll up his hems?

In the "after" shot, the boots he's wearing have toe caps.

The shoes in the following panels don't appear to.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Platypodes on 15 Apr 2015, 13:44
The toe caps could be a minor continuity error.  Pretty weird for Clinton to go shoe-shopping at this point.  But ya never know....
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 15 Apr 2015, 13:48
But why are the pants rolled up? Still one more misadventure ahead, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: amykathleen on 15 Apr 2015, 13:58
Hello people, I am a person who has been lurking here since the whole Faye hospital dealie but today I made an account because I cannot for the life of me figure out the order of the last four panels in today's comic.  Is it "You're spontaneous"->mope->kiss->"yeah, baby" or is it "You're spontaneous"->kiss->mope->"yeah, baby"?  Or something else?
Also I hope that I am doing this posting correctly; I'm very bad at forums.
*hides in shame because of confusion*
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 15 Apr 2015, 14:05
The text showed up, so I think you posted correctly. I might be wrong though.

I read those panels as "You're so spontaneous"->kiss->mope->"yeah, baby"

(Hi!)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2015, 14:41
Welcome, new person!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Method of Madness on 15 Apr 2015, 14:58
I don't think he's moping, just surprised.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Carl-E on 15 Apr 2015, 16:05
Exactly.  That's a "beat" panel as the enormity of what just happened sinks in. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Apr 2015, 16:32
Em'ly kiss'd me on our date,
Right outside the dorm she lived in;
However shameful my night rates,
That, at least, is now a given:
Call me dorky, call me nerd,
I care little how you've diss'd me,
O, Northampton! Have you heard?
Em'ly kiss'd me.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: amykathleen on 15 Apr 2015, 16:34
I understand now!  Thank you, nice people!  And thank you for welcoming me.  :D
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Stoon on 15 Apr 2015, 17:12
I really don't get what's happening in the last frame at all.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Apr 2015, 17:32
I really don't get what's happening in the last frame at all.

Jeph's been watching anime.

Fabulous anime.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Energia on 15 Apr 2015, 17:35
I'm guessing Clinton's evening isn't over yet. Pants need to be rolled up, bandage needs to come off, and it's not dark yet. Still, so far, it's gone much better than I expected. Turns out Emily's good for Clinton (as in, being around her has made him a better person). Woo hoo.

Will they become a thing? Will she end up loving him the way he is? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2858) (Apparently not, but she may end up loving him after adjustments.)

Hang on, he did these things, so he is already this 'better person' of which you speak :) .  Emily likes him despite the fact he is apt to cut loose and do odd things.  Whether she can (or should) moderate this remains to be seen, but I know that being around a good partner brings out the best in you in a way that work and friends etc. doesn't. I totally agree - this date has gone much better than expected.  I reckon the roll-ups are just his inner punk coming out to expose his hitherto hidden DM-wearing alter-ego.  Either that, or he replayed the opening scenes of the Sound of Music and the dance from Singing in the Rain through a duckpond!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: crazdgamer on 15 Apr 2015, 19:57
I really don't get what's happening in the last frame at all.

Jeph's been watching anime.

Fabulous anime.

(click to show/hide)

Is that what that is?  I assumed Clinton was channeling John Cena for a second. 

(How far is West Newbury from Northhampton anyway?)

(Two hours, according to the Google.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 15 Apr 2015, 20:00
Y'know, thinking about it, I'm wondering if Emily consciously exaggerates her cluelessness? space-cadet status? on purpose. Like, she's purposefully strange.

Not likely, but it's a thought that just occurred to me considering her 'lucid' and coherent conversation with Clinton towards the end.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 15 Apr 2015, 20:50
Y'know, thinking about it, I'm wondering if Emily consciously exaggerates her cluelessness? space-cadet status? on purpose. Like, she's purposefully strange.

Not likely, but it's a thought that just occurred to me considering her 'lucid' and coherent conversation with Clinton towards the end.

Maybe not that unlikely, though. I mean, I'm sure she's at least a bit odd. But I've noticed that some people in my own life amp up their oddity as a defense or coping mechanism (I've known people who've found social interaction easier when they played a version of themselves, but would be much different around people they trusted and were comfortable with). It's possible that in Clinton, Emily recognizes a kindred spirit; after all, their interactions toward the latter half of the date are a lot different -- and read as being a bit more real/honest -- than the earlier part of it.

Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me, but there ya go.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Apr 2015, 21:11
Comic, and...

IN YOUR FACE, EVERYONE.

IN ALL OF YOUR FACES.

*ahem*

Also, "Dear."  Marten and Claire apparently just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary, or something.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 15 Apr 2015, 21:11
Sounds like communist talk there Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 15 Apr 2015, 21:12
Sounds like communist talk there Claire.

Well there's a reason Faye calls her 'Red'
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Platypodes on 15 Apr 2015, 21:15
Maybe not that unlikely, though. I mean, I'm sure she's at least a bit odd. But I've noticed that some people in my own life amp up their oddity as a defense or coping mechanism (I've known people who've found social interaction easier when they played a version of themselves, but would be much different around people they trusted and were comfortable with). It's possible that in Clinton, Emily recognizes a kindred spirit; after all, their interactions toward the latter half of the date are a lot different -- and read as being a bit more real/honest -- than the earlier part of it.

Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me, but there ya go.
That makes total sense.  If Emily was a bit weird to begin with, and then got stereotyped and mocked as "the weird girl," she may have decided to go ahead and play the role of weird girl to the extreme because it's safer than just being a little bit weird.  When someone is a little bit weird and not totally comfortable with it, mean people will snigger and tell them they're being weird.  When you're blatantly, wildly weird, mean people are less likely to bother with that because you don't gain any power over someone by stating something that (a) is totally obvious and (b) doesn't seem to worry them in the slightest.

It could be that Emily is playing the exaggerated role of weird girl, Clinton is playing the exaggerated role of nerdy boy, and together they might be able to share a bit of what's underneath.

Or maybe Emily really is that weird.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: jheartney on 15 Apr 2015, 21:16
Y'know, thinking about it, I'm wondering if Emily consciously exaggerates her cluelessness? space-cadet status? on purpose. Like, she's purposefully strange.

Not likely, but it's a thought that just occurred to me considering her 'lucid' and coherent conversation with Clinton towards the end.

Maybe not that unlikely, though. I mean, I'm sure she's at least a bit odd. But I've noticed that some people in my own life amp up their oddity as a defense or coping mechanism (I've known people who've found social interaction easier when they played a version of themselves, but would be much different around people they trusted and were comfortable with). It's possible that in Clinton, Emily recognizes a kindred spirit; after all, their interactions toward the latter half of the date are a lot different -- and read as being a bit more real/honest -- than the earlier part of it.

Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me, but there ya go.
That totally makes sense. Especially from Clinton's side, he needed to break the ice before he could start being himself.

For the second date, Clinton should not plan some epic adventure. Instead, he should trust Emily and himself, and let the spontaneity arise spontaneously. If it doesn't, and he finds himself reverting to boring nerdiness, then he'll know it wasn't meant to be. OTOH, if he can find a way to be natural, and Emily can find a happy medium as well, then they could find something special with each other.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 15 Apr 2015, 21:20
That's it, Marten's off the market

And Balloon Bungy Salmon Fishing, is that a thing??!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: St.Clair on 15 Apr 2015, 21:27
Warning:  Do not attempt.
(Unless you are the Old Spice Man.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: cesium133 on 15 Apr 2015, 21:29
"I don't always take Emily out on a date, but when I do I get a weird haircut, a tattoo, and a black eye."
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 15 Apr 2015, 21:38
Comic, and...

IN YOUR FACE, EVERYONE.

Ok, i'm going to make an early prediction. Once we're done with the date flashback, we're going to see the wrap up with Clinton talking to Claire, and or Marten,
Check.
Quote
and it's going to be pointed out how well the date actually went,
Check.
Quote
Clare tells him how the hair cut really works for him,
Miss.
Quote
Martin explains that a tattoo should be a reflection of the person getting it, and that he made the perfect choice.
Not exactly what happened, but close enough that i'm giving it a check.

Considering how accurate i've been so far, i'll take the Vagas odds on him coming to like the tattoo, and keeping it. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: zechstyr on 15 Apr 2015, 21:43
Registered just to say:

Land-locked salmon are a thing, and if Hannelore doesn't burst in to correct them of this I'll be a sad panda.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Energia on 15 Apr 2015, 21:46
"dear"???
"Dear"?????

wtf!  Marten!!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 15 Apr 2015, 21:50
[...]
Martin explains that a tattoo should be a reflection of the person getting it, and that he made the perfect choice.
Not exactly what happened, but close enough that i'm giving it a check.

Considering how accurate i've been so far, i'll take the Vagas odds on him coming to like the tattoo, and keeping it.

I'm not completely against him coming around to accepting the tattoo (although I still don't think it suits him); I just didn't like the idea that one kiss from Emily would banish all regret and doubt about the tattoo from Clinton's mind and immediately make everything better. 

(Edited for clarity)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: valkygrrl on 15 Apr 2015, 22:06
"dear"???
"Dear"?????

wtf!  Marten!!!

He's just channeling Clairemom, eat your pancakes dear.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Energia on 15 Apr 2015, 22:10
Oh.  Phew! : )
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: PopuluxeCowboy on 15 Apr 2015, 22:15
Claire: "Okay, rainbow trout, whatever, 'dear'."
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 15 Apr 2015, 22:17
Welcome, new person, and have a fresh-caught lake salmon.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: mustang6172 on 15 Apr 2015, 22:23
I don't know if I'd call that date "epic."  Maybe if the guy that hit him was taller, had scales, and breathed fire...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Smallest on 15 Apr 2015, 22:52
I'm guessing Clinton's evening isn't over yet. Pants need to be rolled up, bandage needs to come off, and it's not dark yet. Still, so far, it's gone much better than I expected. Turns out Emily's good for Clinton (as in, being around her has made him a better person). Woo hoo.

Will they become a thing? Will she end up loving him the way he is? (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2858) (Apparently not, but she may end up loving him after adjustments.)

I keep thinking 'the way he is' will refer to this one. (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 15 Apr 2015, 23:11
So, it looks like the 'second thoughts' theory was correct. This is disappointing because I was really looking forward to watching Clinton dumpster surfing into the ornamental pond in the town park!

Still, Clinton's concerns are justified. How do you top that? Do you even want to? You know that the situation is an extreme one when it's impossible to tell if Claire is mocking her brother or genuinely trying to offer a constructive suggestion!

Panel 3 interests me, specifically in Claire's reaction to Marten calling Clinton's date 'epic'. I wonder if this will trigger behaviour? This could vary between getting a tattoo at the low end to 'surprising' Marten with an action-packed date plan like a strip-club crawl or off-road bike rally at the extreme end!

As for 'dear'? Actually, I think that Marten meant that humourously. What pet names do they have for each other anyway? Have they even got to that point yet? 'Mar-Mar' will be ruled out for the obvious reasons.

@Smallest,
Regarding strip 2305, note Emily's reaction to Claire's off-colour 'joke' in panel 4: Could that have been where it began?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 15 Apr 2015, 23:17
Y'know, thinking about it, I'm wondering if Emily consciously exaggerates her cluelessness? space-cadet status? on purpose. Like, she's purposefully strange.

Not likely, but it's a thought that just occurred to me considering her 'lucid' and coherent conversation with Clinton towards the end.

Maybe not that unlikely, though. I mean, I'm sure she's at least a bit odd. But I've noticed that some people in my own life amp up their oddity as a defense or coping mechanism (I've known people who've found social interaction easier when they played a version of themselves, but would be much different around people they trusted and were comfortable with). It's possible that in Clinton, Emily recognizes a kindred spirit; after all, their interactions toward the latter half of the date are a lot different -- and read as being a bit more real/honest -- than the earlier part of it.

Not sure if that makes sense to anyone but me, but there ya go.

Precisely what I was thinking when I wrote that  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Smallest on 15 Apr 2015, 23:49
@Smallest,
Regarding strip 2305, note Emily's reaction to Claire's off-colour 'joke' in panel 4: Could that have been where it began?

I have reread several times, and I never noticed her even being in that panel until now. That would be cool.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 16 Apr 2015, 00:52
Calling for attention to another previous interaction between Emily and Clinton: #2428 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428).

I never did understand this one. Also, Jeph had a comment: "And in an instant, Emily's life was changed forever." Any ideas?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Apr 2015, 00:58
She was rushing out to buy the game, or found the news so hard to integrate that she had to take a time-out to process it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Apr 2015, 01:07
Calling for attention to another previous interaction between Emily and Clinton: #2428 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428).

I never did understand this one. Also, Jeph had a comment: "And in an instant, Emily's life was changed forever." Any ideas?

At the time the strip was written, I'm pretty sure that IiCiH was right - Jeph meant that she suddenly had to play the games again and see if Clinton was right. However, in the light of the arc just now wrapping up, I think we can retcon it into Emily suddenly realising that this may be a kindred soul - a fellow gamer nerd.

Of course, I may be underestimating Jeph. It's possible that he was planning Clintemily even then and this was one of a continuum of hints he was giving that this would happen eventually.

It's worthwhile to note that we've been crawling through the eight weeks of a single summer for approaching a thousand strips now. Bear this in mind because it means that events that occurred years ago for us are fairly recent events in-universe. 'Eventually' in the real world is nowhere near as long a time as 'eventually' is in-universe.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: snubnose on 16 Apr 2015, 01:53
So Marten totally spotted instantly what the problem with this plan was !

The only problem, of course.

Well, the only problem worth mentioning, anyway.



Registered just to say:

Land-locked salmon are a thing, and if Hannelore doesn't burst in to correct them of this I'll be a sad panda.
A BEAR A BEAR WHO MADE A BEAR SHOO SHOO MAKE THE BEAR GO AWAY !!!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Tova on 16 Apr 2015, 01:59
Calling for attention to another previous interaction between Emily and Clinton: #2428 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2428).

The only thing I wanted to know after that strip was why Clinton required that clarification.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Lubricus on 16 Apr 2015, 02:09
Exactly! Does his hand actually HAVE either of the two powers? Why else would he have to ask?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 16 Apr 2015, 02:57
I am sure it has been mentioned before, but there is a glaring inconsistency in #2853 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2853), because Emily and Clinton met previously at the lakehouse, and later, in the library. Should we forget the previous interactions, and assume they first met "for real" when Marten and Claire set them up?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Apr 2015, 03:00
I am sure it has been mentioned before, but there is a glaring inconsistency in #2853 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2853), because Emily and Clinton met previously at the lakehouse, and later, in the library. Should we forget the previous interactions, and assume they first met "for real" when Marten and Claire set them up?

No, because Emily obviously remembered their previous interactions (hence the greeting "Mr Robo-Hand"). The only thing that was new here was that Clinton didn't realise that Marten and Claire had been talking about that Emily, whom he had met before both in class and outside.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Akima on 16 Apr 2015, 03:19
He's just channeling Clairemom, eat your pancakes dear.
Just so. It's a common enough phrasing to express an ironically "Mum"-ish admonishment.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 16 Apr 2015, 03:33
How to top that date? Perhaps something that will mobilise the NRO again.

I can just imagine the two of them getting an invite from Station. That would be truly cool.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: NilsO on 16 Apr 2015, 04:55
How to top that date? Perhaps something that will mobilise the NRO again.

I can just imagine the two of them getting an invite from Station. That would be truly cool.
I am sure they will be considered a security threat by Station, and denied access. When Hanners invited Marigold and Marten to the Station, she already had done some pre-screening (#1607 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1607) and #2104 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2104)). Apparently, Station considers secret robots a threat.

But if Emily is still being watched by the NRO, I am sure Clinton would consider it cool. He might also want to experiment. Perhaps he can get Emily to open a communication channel between his robot hand and the Great Old Ones. The horror...
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: WareWolf on 16 Apr 2015, 05:08
I don't know if I'd call that date "epic."  Maybe if the guy that hit him was taller, had scales, and breathed fire...

Man, you've got some high standards there.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DrBear on 16 Apr 2015, 07:18
Just for the record, there are coho (king) salmon in Lake Michigan. Very popular with area anglers.

Don't think Clin-ton diving in would be a good idea, though. It would short out his tattoo.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: DSL on 16 Apr 2015, 07:32
At some point, Marten, offer him a clean shirt. You've got a TEH or two you're probably not gonna wear anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Skewbrow on 16 Apr 2015, 08:00
I'm trying to read Claire's expressions in this strip. Her eyes in particular. Somehow I get the vibe that in the first panel she is siding with her brother, may be "eew", may be silently thinking that Marten can't be serious. But in the second and the third panels she is gradually warming up to the task of running with the joke.

Jeph has, of course, a lot of experience expressing things with the directions of the gaze alone. For example the dinner MartyMom, Marten and Faye shared about 2500 strips ago was epic in that regard.

Not ruling out the possibility that I am reading too much into all this.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 16 Apr 2015, 08:06
I don't know if I'd call that date "epic."  Maybe if the guy that hit him was taller, had scales, and breathed fire...

One need not do battle with a dragon for the date to be epic, giants are a perfectly viable substitute.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TinPenguin on 16 Apr 2015, 08:22
I'm trying to read Claire's expressions in this strip. Her eyes in particular. Somehow I get the vibe that in the first panel she is siding with her brother, may be "eew", may be silently thinking that Marten can't be serious. But in the second and the third panels she is gradually warming up to the task of running with the joke.

Jeph has, of course, a lot of experience expressing things with the directions of the gaze alone. For example the dinner MartyMom, Marten and Faye shared about 2500 strips ago was epic in that regard.

Not ruling out the possibility that I am reading too much into all this.

In panel one she has a snark fully loaded and ready to fire. In panel two and three she realises her artillery does not have infantry backup. In panel four she leads a cavalry charge instead.

(I think I lost track of my metaphor)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 16 Apr 2015, 09:14
Exactly! Does his hand actually HAVE either of the two powers? Why else would he have to ask?

I read it as a nerd thing. Certain people, in certain moods, feel compelled to remove all ambiguity from a question before answering it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Penquin47 on 16 Apr 2015, 17:20
Exactly! Does his hand actually HAVE either of the two powers? Why else would he have to ask?

I read it as a nerd thing. Certain people, in certain moods, feel compelled to remove all ambiguity from a question before answering it.

Me, for instance.  It drives my dad crazy.  Especially when I then follow up by coming up with more and more implausible scenarios trying to break the premise.  (It usually works.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: osaka on 16 Apr 2015, 17:26
Although considering the programming the QCverse has for some AIs, it's not implausible that the hand has a charge blast.

I mean, Momo has something not too different.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Estron on 16 Apr 2015, 20:41
Haven't read the board yet, but I've seen the Friday comic, and I end my QC week chuckling at this wind-up strip.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 16 Apr 2015, 20:52
Boots explained.

Was hoping for a more entertaining explanation. :meh:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Gladstone on 16 Apr 2015, 21:02
Jeph just forgot about the boots while writing the date and only just remembered to add them now.

*AOOGA* *AOOGA* WARNING WARNING RETCON IN PROGRESS PLEASE STAND CLEAR *AOOGA*
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: vforvancouver on 16 Apr 2015, 21:08
The boots explanation works for me. Also, it makes Clinnnnnntonnnnn look taller.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Truec on 16 Apr 2015, 21:12
Jeph just forgot about the boots while writing the date and only just remembered to add them now.

*AOOGA* *AOOGA* WARNING WARNING RETCON IN PROGRESS PLEASE STAND CLEAR *AOOGA*

It's not a retcon if there's no continuity for him to retroactively change.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 16 Apr 2015, 21:37
I have to say, for the sake of accuracy, that *most* trousers fit into tall(ish) boots.  In Clinton's case, and I know from experience, that the pain from his tattoo and injury will be *nothing* compared to the pain of breaking in the boots.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Penquin47 on 16 Apr 2015, 21:57
Okay, Marten, we get it, you like Claire.

(Although he's right, the dorky look *does* work for her.)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Energia on 16 Apr 2015, 22:47
Oh ye-eh! Oh ye-eh! <Does a Marigold booty dance> OR <Clinton Jo Jo Bizarre dance> (but not both at the same time!) Emily has brought out the best in Clinton.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 16 Apr 2015, 23:05
So, is he wearing Doc Martins?    :claireface:


Hey Clin-ton, it got her Marten didn't it?!   :D
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 16 Apr 2015, 23:22
Well, it's as good an explanation as any for the boots. It's also a reminder that not everything has to have a comedic or chaotic explanation. Sometimes, a mundane story is just as valid and still lead to a joke! I do think that we have really only seen the beginning of the affects of this night for the Augustus family. Think of the family get-togethers!

Yeah, Claire can pull off 'dorky', can't she? Maybe, in the end, it's all about the attitude! It's also very in-character for Claire to somehow mix mockery and support when talking to her brother.

Of course, having a significant other who is into it in a big way is a heck of a motivation for excelling in your chosen aesthetic! That said, we may see Claire experiment with other looks as her self-confidence grows. Marten may be in for a ride, as far as that goes!
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 17 Apr 2015, 00:08
That said, we may see Claire experiment with other looks as her self-confidence grows.

We have already. I think rockin this gorgeous dress (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2389) gave her a lot of confidence. It was all shirt and khaki shorts before that and while she hasn't abandoned that she is just as likely to be wearing a dress as not now.

In retrospect might also be that's when her crush started and she wanted to impress Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Apr 2015, 01:37
So, anyone got any ideas for next week? There isn't anything obvious that occurs to me. The options that come to mind are:
Option (3) could be hilarious or toe-curling depending on how Jeph handles it. Even though Claire has, at best, a week's more experience of being in a relationship than Emily does, I could see Emily treating her as a sage in all things 'boyfriend'. She has lots of questions, some of which should not be asked in a public place like the library. I could see one or two moments where the two get into a 'Squeee!' about their respectives and either Marten shouting out: "I'm standing here, you know!" or Tai shouting out: "Okay, so your boyfriends are cute! I'm happy for you! Now get back to work already!"

Option (2) more-or-less writes itself. Imagine, if you will, Hanners trying to explain why variations on 'Hannelore' are a nickname or contraction of 'Abyssinia'.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 17 Apr 2015, 02:24
But is Emily as inexperienced as Claire?  All I remember is she wasn't sure Clinnn-tonnn was her type. She very well might have been on many dates in the past.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: ZoeB on 17 Apr 2015, 03:23
Okay, Marten, we get it, you like Claire.

(Although he's right, the dorky look *does* work for her.)
Apparently she has a certain sneaking fondness for him too. Just quietly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: anahata on 17 Apr 2015, 04:26
I don't think the Clinton - Emily arc is finished yet.
- Emily says she had fun, but I wonder if she's got anything more revealing more to say about the date, in conversation with others?
- Clinton considers the possible implications and expectations if he wants another date with Emily...

Meanwhile:
- we need to check in on Faye's progress from time to time
- we haven't seen Dora or Tai for a while
- we haven't seen Marigold or Dale for a very long time
- Sven dropped a bombshell and hasn't been seen since - surely there will be a follow-up?
- many fringe characters have accumulated and faded into the distance - will any of them return?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Apr 2015, 04:30
It occurs to me that Clinton and Claire are having this loud conversation right outside the apartments bedrooms. From Strip 2931 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2931), I got the impression that Claire remembered to call Clinton just as she and Marten were going to bed. That means it could be very, very late. Is Faye laughing to herself in her bedroom, or is she about to burst out and yell: "Some of us have had an emotionally exhausting day and would like to be able to get some sleep already!"
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: CaptainFish on 17 Apr 2015, 04:59
I wonder if those boots give Clinton a little lift...
He should definitely keep rocking the suspenders though.

I don't really see Claire as anywhere near as dorky Clinton, but they both like formal wear. It's just that, to me, a dress comes off as less dorky than a white shirt, suspenders and bowtie. Glad to see she's confident about her style anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Apr 2015, 06:56
I like Claire the teasing older sister.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 17 Apr 2015, 07:23
I'm liking her less, actually. And Marten see!s to be turning into a yes-man.

Maybe I'm just grumpy because I need more sleep.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Apr 2015, 07:39
Marten see!s to be turning into a yes-man.



...So... he agrees his girlfriend looks good, making him a yes-man?

Yeah, I think you need a nap, Omega
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Apr 2015, 07:47
I think I like Claire because she has a very similar sense of humor to me, stupid puns and playful pokes at pals. Or in this case, Clinton, but that didn't work with the alliterative analysis I had going on.

In other news, this look is an actual improvement for Clinton. Definitely sets him apart as a character. I hope he keeps the tattoo, at least. Maybe it'll grow on him, or if this thing with Emily continues, he'll keep it as a reminder of their first date. The second one's only likely if Emily makes a big deal about it.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Apr 2015, 07:50
Getting the tattoo will become something Clinton and Emily do on all their dates. After every date Clinton gets it removed, and on the next one he winds up getting it again.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: gprimr1 on 17 Apr 2015, 08:17
At first I was a little annoyed by Claire, after her performance with Faye, but then I realized this is just a brother-sister thing.

But it would be interesting to see some drama between Claire and the group
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Xader on 17 Apr 2015, 08:23
Boom!

Boots with toe caps.

 :-D
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 17 Apr 2015, 08:39
Marten see!s to be turning into a yes-man.



...So... he agrees his girlfriend looks good, making him a yes-man?

Yeah, I think you need a nap, Omega

Moreso that he's reduced to a simple 'Yeah!' rather than 'She does have a point'. I'm all for brevity, but combined with the expression on his face, it's just... I dunno what it is about it that bothers me so much.

On Claire and the brother-sister dynamic, it seems like she does nothing -but- snark on him. It just gets old after a while, I guess.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Apr 2015, 08:47

Moreso that he's reduced to a simple 'Yeah!' rather than 'She does have a point'. I'm all for brevity, but combined with the expression on his face, it's just... I dunno what it is about it that bothers me so much.


I'll give that it feels weird to even have Marten in this comic. His presence bothers me because it's entirely unnecessary. I mean, I get what Jeph was trying to do when he put him there, but I feel like it messes with the joke to some degree.


On Claire and the brother-sister dynamic, it seems like she does nothing -but- snark on him. It just gets old after a while, I guess.

Recently, this is true. I'd be interested in seeing a different dynamic between them myself, like the overprotective little brother we saw in Clinton after the marriage of the two dads. The dynamic we are seeing though doesn't bother me, because I'm that kind of guy. My default setting is snark. If I'm making fun of someone, and I'm not straight up calling them out on bullshit, it's because I like and care for them. My sister's the same way, and that's what I'm recognizing in the Clinton-Claire relationship/
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 17 Apr 2015, 09:29
Clinton can bring out the worse in Claire, but I'm not seeing it today. She's teasing him, but it's reasonable teasing. It doesn't feel like she's  reverted into a 14 year old (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2305) like she often does.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Apr 2015, 10:15
Getting the tattoo will become something Clinton and Emily do on all their dates. After every date Clinton gets it removed, and on the next one he winds up getting it again.

Either that, or he keeps getting additions and modifications to the existing tattoo 'til his arm looks like something out of HR Giger, which would be unexpectedly badass of Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Penquin47 on 17 Apr 2015, 10:35
Marten see!s to be turning into a yes-man.



...So... he agrees his girlfriend looks good, making him a yes-man?

Yeah, I think you need a nap, Omega

It's more than that, for me.  There's this, and the things with Faye calling Claire something and Marten going "I know!" with that same ridiculous look on his face.  Except that then, someone was talking to him, and his response was part of the joke.  Here, it's just... blegh.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Nepiophage on 17 Apr 2015, 10:57
But is Emily as inexperienced as Claire?  All I remember is she wasn't sure Clinnn-tonnn was her type. She very well might have been on many dates in the past.

Given her looks, probably many first dates. Given her weirdness, probably much fewer second dates.  But as far as actual relationships go, they are equally inexperienced. 
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 17 Apr 2015, 13:05
OE has a point. Yes, "faithful heart may have froward tongue", it's believable that Claire is loving and supportive deep down, but my idea of characterization would have included some brief example of that by now.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Apr 2015, 13:12
There's something to their interactions that suggests more than garden-variety sibling rivalry, even given both characters' apparent emotional immaturity. What's odd is that we know the Dora/Sven backstory, but comparatively little of the Claire/Clinton backstory, even though they're both regular (and lately, regularly foregrounded) characters. I don't expect Strip 500-level drama, but a bit of explanation would go a long way toward making sense of their dynamic.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Apr 2015, 13:32
I suspect it may have its roots in Claires Transition.

Maybe back in the early days Clinton was confused over what his then brother was doing/going through and wasn't as supportive as he is now (what happened to his hand may figure into that as well).

They may have somewhat sorted things out between them now, but there may still be some remaining, minor confusion and resentment on both parts from that period.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 17 Apr 2015, 14:06
gah. i like Marten, I like Claire. I even like the idea of them together.

but I am so sick of it. Show us something else. Anything else. Fuck, give us 20 strips of Steves moving story eating a bowl of cereal.

I don't know what it is, Marten and Dora didn't make me feel like this, but I don't think that Marten and Dora are better suited than Marten and Claire. I just went back and reread a bunch of those strips.. and i can't put my finger on it. The overall energy is different, in a more appealing way. Maybe its because the story jumps between a lot more plotlines much more quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Aziraphale on 17 Apr 2015, 14:12
I suspect it may have its roots in Claires Transition.

Maybe back in the early days Clinton was confused over what his then brother was doing/going through and wasn't as supportive as he is now (what happened to his hand may figure into that as well).

They may have somewhat sorted things out between them now, but there may still be some remaining, minor confusion and resentment on both parts from that period.

Or it could be smoe kind of residual baggage from their father's affair, depending on how things went down and whether either of them took "sides."

gah. i like Marten, I like Claire. I even like the idea of them together.

but I am so sick of it. Show us something else. Anything else. Fuck, give us 20 strips of Steves moving story eating a bowl of cereal.

I don't know what it is, Marten and Dora didn't make me feel like this, but I don't think that Marten and Dora are better suited than Marten and Claire. I just went back and reread a bunch of those strips.. and i can't put my finger on it. The overall energy is different, in a more appealing way. Maybe its because the story jumps between a lot more plotlines much more quickly.

I think there's something to that. They're a cute couple, but for a while now Jeph's been doing more sustained story arcs instead of jumping among stories or breaking it up with one-off joke strips. On one hand, it allows for a bit more depth in the story that might be harder to pull off with the jumps, but on the other, it means long doses of certain characters and some others (like Dora, Marigold, and Dale) who we've seen very little. I think if the earlier strips had been "edited" differently -- the same stories, but different pacing and less alternation -- you'd probably get much the same effect.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 17 Apr 2015, 15:03
Clinton's not programmed for interpersonal violence.   Few of the cast are, actually.  All bets placed, I consider that a good thing.

Clinton's shaping up to be an interesting dude.  "Fuck it" carried him a long way.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: vforvancouver on 17 Apr 2015, 15:41
I just noticed something about Clin-ton's shirt:

Quote
2015. Special Order for dress in new Dr. Manhattan spin-off fabric. Viscous fluids between two layers latex, heat and pressure sensitive. Customer young girl, Italian name. Never collected order. Said shirt looked ugly. Wrong. Not ugly at all. Beer and blood. Moving. Changing shape… but not mixing.

Clin-ton's shirt is made from the same cloth as Rorschach's mask.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 17 Apr 2015, 18:37
gah. i like Marten, I like Claire. I even like the idea of them together.

but I am so sick of it. Show us something else. Anything else. Fuck, give us 20 strips of Steves moving story eating a bowl of cereal.

I don't know what it is, Marten and Dora didn't make me feel like this, but I don't think that Marten and Dora are better suited than Marten and Claire. I just went back and reread a bunch of those strips.. and i can't put my finger on it. The overall energy is different, in a more appealing way. Maybe its because the story jumps between a lot more plotlines much more quickly.

I think there's something to that. They're a cute couple, but for a while now Jeph's been doing more sustained story arcs instead of jumping among stories or breaking it up with one-off joke strips. On one hand, it allows for a bit more depth in the story that might be harder to pull off with the jumps, but on the other, it means long doses of certain characters and some others (like Dora, Marigold, and Dale) who we've seen very little. I think if the earlier strips had been "edited" differently -- the same stories, but different pacing and less alternation -- you'd probably get much the same effect.

I think that's pretty much it. The arcs back during Marten-Dora were much less involved, and as such we saw both characters acting independently, outside of being a couple, and therefore we were less prone to being sick of them. Their occasional 'couple cuteness overload' strips were there (mind you, far less saccharine than Marten-Claire), but it was really only a strip, and then back to business as usual.

With the current setup, all we've seen is the two together almost exclusively since they got together, since there's very little time progression happening. It feels like they've ceased being individuals, and are now -the couple-, which obviously isn't true, due to the aforementioned lack of progression. Maybe once we can get outside of the 3-day span that the past insert-number-of-month's worth of comics have covered, time can start moving forward again and we can start seeing Marten and Claire independent of one another again.

Least, that's my take.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: hedgie on 17 Apr 2015, 18:47
It is, however, not uncommon for couples in the early stages of a relationship be "joined at the hip".  At least in my experience, it takes a while for both people to get tired of the other's company, and need their own space.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Omega Entity on 17 Apr 2015, 21:11
This is true. But then, there are many couples who never progress past that stage  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Undrneath on 17 Apr 2015, 21:39
I always seem to go directly from the "joined at the hip" stage to the "I don't want you as part of my life" stage. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. You know that old chestnut.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: tywren on 17 Apr 2015, 23:09
I don't know what it is, Marten and Dora didn't make me feel like this, but I don't think that Marten and Dora are better suited than Marten and Claire. I just went back and reread a bunch of those strips.. and i can't put my finger on it. The overall energy is different, in a more appealing way. Maybe its because the story jumps between a lot more plotlines much more quickly.

Alternatively, maybe it's because Dora acted like a early to mid 20's young adult, whereas Claire's social skills stalled out when she was 14. Looking back, i can think of many occasions where Dora did something that left me thinking "wow, what a bitch...", but never once did i think "my god, would you grow the fuck up!" Claire on the other hand has a few of the first, and more of the second than i care to count, with the occasional overlap, such as the incident with Faye last week.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Shjade on 18 Apr 2015, 10:13
It is, however, not uncommon for couples in the early stages of a relationship be "joined at the hip".  At least in my experience, it takes a while for both people to get tired of the other's company, and need their own space.

It's also only been, what, a couple of days? There hasn't been a whole lot of time for other things to happen yet.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Apr 2015, 10:42
This is a point that I made up thread but it's awfully easy for people to miss. Jeph has stretched about twelve weeks out into somewhere in the region of fifteen-hundred strips. Marten has only known Claire for three months in total and they've been in a formally-acknowledged relationship for ten days at the most. So, yeah, it's going to be a while before the shine comes off, at least from our perspective.
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: TRVA123 on 18 Apr 2015, 11:01
Yes, I think everyone understands that point. However, these are not real people who happen to hang out with us. This is a story. The author can make choices of what to portray and how to portray it.

And I get it, Jephs house, Jephs rules. And I respect that. But that doesn't mean that I am going to refrain from critiquing a story that I am obviously very invested in.

I personally think that the overall pacing of the story has been too slow, and that, just as a television show can ruin their dynamic by overemphasizing a crowd favorite, we are being overexposed to Clairten. There are so many stories that can be told right now, and while I understand that not every plot thread will be completed, I would really appreciate development in a few of those areas. What happened to Sven? Can we have another AI subplot? How are Dora and Tai doing?
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 18 Apr 2015, 11:12
(mod)Critiques are completely OK. It's not like you gave Jeph orders or picked a fight with the entire forum, which others have done.(/mod)
Title: Re: WCDT 2937-2941 (13 - 17 April 2015)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 18 Apr 2015, 13:02
I don't think that, currently, we're being overexposed to Clariten or that we aren't getting other stories. Marten and Claire have been in strips recently, but they haven't been 'Marten and Claire' strips. They've been about Claire and *Faye*(Which is something people including myself wanted, her interacting with more of the cast and not just being Marten's girlfriend) and about using Claire as a catalyst to tell the Clinton and Emily story, which right there is two characters who haven't gotten a lot of focus.

General slow pacing I can certainly see as a valid point. For Sven and Dora, they're pretty tied to Faye and I think Faye needs to reach a certain point before we can go there. I don't think we'll be seeing much Dora until they make up. And if Sven showed up right now he'd get splattered against a wall.