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Title: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Nov 2015, 10:23
A little something light-hearted (although I expect the debate to be fierce and quite passionate at times).

What about the comic itself? Jeph could decide to go in a totally new direction as most things have been wrapped up at present. Me, I'd like to either catch up with Northampton's weirdest couple, Clinton and Emily, or maybe do something new. Perhaps learn a bit more about the Augustus family? We've seen enough of Claireten from the point of view of Marten's circle; it might be interesting to see it from the point of view of Claire's family and their friends!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Nov 2015, 11:05
It's Gordon

Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Nov 2015, 15:24
It's Gordon

Sorry, what?  Are you still trying to figure out who Hank the Dismemberer is? 
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: hedgie on 22 Nov 2015, 16:02
It *is* the poll.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Carl-E on 22 Nov 2015, 16:37
 :oops:

I rarely read the polls... I'm usually late to the forum if I make it in here at all...

But evisceration isn't the same as dismemberment, so it's clearly a different AI.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 22 Nov 2015, 17:05
Yes, everyone knows who Hank the Eviscerator is. No mystery at all. He's Hank.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 22 Nov 2015, 18:27
I think it should be more shocking than amusing.  But it might make more sense if we found out it was.......  SVEN!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 Nov 2015, 20:00
BEWARE THE WAR SPATULA
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: ysth on 22 Nov 2015, 20:50
Wait, are the bloody hands Jeph hinting to us that Alice is...Cosette?

The fall off the windmill?  Pure Cosette.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 22 Nov 2015, 21:26
Centuries of repeated injury have caused her to build up an immunity to being hurt....
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: hedgie on 22 Nov 2015, 21:34
That is a bit extreme for "that which does not kill me makes me stronger?"  Maybe.  Gah, I don't know.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 22 Nov 2015, 22:11
The blank blackboard makes me  :-\
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Nov 2015, 23:32
The more things change, the more that they stay the same! Actually, I think that this is the first time in years that we've seen Cossette's near-lethal accident-prone tendency in the strip.

More Sven/Hanners friendship too, which is always cute! Also Sven being reminded of just what sort of people tend to become Dora's surrogate kid sisters!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: hakko504 on 22 Nov 2015, 23:50
The more things change, the more that they stay the same! Actually, I think that this is the first time in years that we've seen Cossette's near-lethal accident-prone tendency in the strip.
Last time she was portrayed as clumsy was back in 1758 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1758), unless you count the wardrobe malfunction in 2629 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2629)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: oeoek on 23 Nov 2015, 02:56
I can so very picture Winslow plugging into some humongous killer machine exoskeleton, like am I-pod plugging into an music centre, strapping on seatbelts, mumbling 'Salutations, mother f***ers' under his breath. Being so nice and gentle, with a top speed of 1 km/hour just requires some serious way to blow of steam.

On a different note, the unshaded comic today, which seems to frustrate Jeph so much, really shows off how good he has become at drawing over the years. Clear line anyone (ligne claire, like in Tintin for example)?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 23 Nov 2015, 03:53
We seem to have lost a dimension somewhere along the way.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2015, 04:42
Jeph doesn't like today's art according to the newspost but it looks fine to me. Also Sven still has his bun :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Nov 2015, 04:45
FWIW, I can see a second Sven/Hannelore 'play date' happening at some point although my feeling is that today's strip is sort of a "let's catch up with these two" one-shot.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Lubricus on 23 Nov 2015, 05:17
Jeph doesn't like today's art according to the newspost but it looks fine to me. Also Sven still has his bun :psyduck:

It looks a bit uneven to me. I don't mind the style, but it looks like Penelope and Cosette are drawn more hastily than Sven and Hannelore. *shrug*
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Kugai on 23 Nov 2015, 13:24
*Reaches for Clippers with Number 1 Comb attached*

She was warned about the Malaysian Battle Spatula.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2015, 17:11
So I won't give any details about tonight's comic (because that would be wrong), but I will say that it's my favorite in a while.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 23 Nov 2015, 17:12
Hey, it's Whosis and Wossname!
(Maybe we'll catch up with Raven?)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Nov 2015, 19:25
New comic... and I hadn't realized it, but this is the first time that Momo has seen Sven since the comic that need not be named.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Lioness on 23 Nov 2015, 19:27
That face.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZPLuuKi.png)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: chaospersonified on 23 Nov 2015, 19:31
Oh, May. Thank you for ridiculing Sven about his man bun.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2015, 19:32
New comic... and I hadn't realized it, but this is the first time that Momo has seen Sven since the comic that need not be named.
Technically since the one before that one.

Oh, May. Thank you for ridiculing Sven about his man bun.
And thank you, May, for not calling it that. That name is dumber than the hairstyle itself.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Spiritz on 23 Nov 2015, 19:54
For some reason, I was always under the impression that Sven could do that to himself...   Don't judge me!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: vforvancouver on 23 Nov 2015, 20:07
I want Momo's shirt. Those sleeves may solve my problems with door handles.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mmeaninglessnamee on 23 Nov 2015, 20:22
For some reason, I was always under the impression that Sven could do that to himself...   Don't judge me!

He's rather tall, he'd have to be very flexible for that to work.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Gladstone on 23 Nov 2015, 20:34
I want Momo's shirt. Those sleeves may solve my problems with door handles.

How would having sleeves that retract when you're surprised by someone you have a crush on help with your problems with door handles?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 Nov 2015, 20:35
And then reappear when sufficiently embarrassed!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: AprilArcus on 23 Nov 2015, 21:30
I ship this so hard
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: jheartney on 23 Nov 2015, 22:01
Unrelated question: When will May get a spot on the cast page? Bubbles got put on there, but I think May is in way more strips than Bubbles, and in fact is in way more strips than a lot of the characters who show up there. Not to mention she's a lot more interesting than many of them.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 23 Nov 2015, 23:16
I think that May might have met her match in Sven. There have been previous incidents (especially in the bar way back when the character was introduced) that suggests Sven has a strange trick of the mind that means he doesn't get it when people insult him in needlessly elaborate ways. By the way, her come-back was weak here... mostly because I genuinely suspect she wasn't expecting that particular objection from Sven and she was flailing around for something effective to say.

My suspicion is that May is going to get madder and madder at her inability to get a reaction out of Sven. I wonder if this is going to be Jeph's chosen trigger or crisis point for him to trigger a character evolution, possibly in Hannelore (whom May respects enough that if she told her to shut up, she'd do so).

Poor Momo though! Still not over that crush!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: snubnose on 23 Nov 2015, 23:32
So Momo still has a crush on Sven.

Interesting.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: wlewisiii on 24 Nov 2015, 00:00
Guess I'm not really surprised that Momo is still crushing.

What I'm far more worried about after this strip is a two robot/one human three way...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Deadman on 24 Nov 2015, 00:03
"But then I would not be able to feel my silky hair on my balls."
Popped into my head right after May's comeback found it hard not to share especially after imagining the reactions of May and Momo.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Deadcoder on 24 Nov 2015, 01:39
For some reason, I was always under the impression that Sven could do that to himself...   Don't judge me!

He's rather tall, he'd have to be very flexible for that to work.

I'm 6'4" and can do this, but only because I'm extremely flexible. This is not a common trait. And something tells me Sven aint into that.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Nepiophage on 24 Nov 2015, 04:09
Maybe Hannelore can discuss item 4  (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3081)with them
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: osaka on 24 Nov 2015, 04:10
It looks as if Momo is being filled with homicidal rage. In the brink of actually relocating May to an incinerator.

Pls momo don't hurt 'em. Senpai already notices you
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Nov 2015, 05:20
That's not homicidal rage, that's embarrassment. Potentially homicidal embarrassment, sure, but still...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: osaka on 24 Nov 2015, 05:23
Hmmm, could be. For some reason I didn't think of embarrassment but it does make more sense.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BryanP on 24 Nov 2015, 05:36
Oh, May. Thank you for ridiculing Sven about his man bun.

One day the man bun will be regarded in the same way we currently look at the mullet. 
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 Nov 2015, 05:53
I'm amused that the height of Momo's ponytails seems to increase by the amount of her embarrassment. Or maybe it's like a cats fur.. The more shocked she is, the bigger she poofs.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: DSL on 24 Nov 2015, 06:00
Oh, May. Thank you for ridiculing Sven about his man bun.

One day the man bun will be regarded in the same way we currently look at the mullet.

For.me.that  day is now.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Nov 2015, 06:54
Were they ever not? I've never heard them mentioned in a positive light.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: osaka on 24 Nov 2015, 07:01
People who wear them do. I have to suffer one of those beings, so I know. He's been repeatedly ridiculed for it and he has received several different hairstyle ideas, but he never listens. It's a sad, sad stain on the computer science degree.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: sitnspin on 24 Nov 2015, 08:26
Or, you know, you could let people style their hair any way they want without ridiculing them about it like an asshole. Just an idea.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: joran on 24 Nov 2015, 11:52
I've never liked Sven but I gotta say I'm into his man bun. (Um, the one on his head.) I like the short but not too short sides and buns on dudes generally show off their cheekbones. ++.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 Nov 2015, 13:36
Or, you know, you could let people style their hair any way they want without ridiculing them about it like an asshole. Just an idea.

That's a slippery slope. You start accepting non-traditional hairstyles, and the next thing you know you're judging people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. And then really crazy things start happening, like homosexuals getting married, trans* people demanding to be treated like everyone else, and robots serving openly in the military.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Omega Entity on 24 Nov 2015, 13:54
Hmmm, could be. For some reason I didn't think of embarrassment but it does make more sense.

The upturned eyebrows (like a worried expression) are the giveaway. Couple that with the blush, fearful expression, and the seriously hunched shoulders, and you have the look of someone so mortified that they wish the ground would rip open and send them hurtling to the center of the earth.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Kugai on 24 Nov 2015, 14:08
Let the Snarkfest commence


That is if Momo doesn't beat May down with the Battle Rolling Pin.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Welu on 24 Nov 2015, 14:11
I wonder if May will pick up on Momo's crush on Sven, because I would guess May's first reaction would be more mocking or it might even open the discussion on human/robot romantic relationships in the QC universe.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: War Sparrow on 24 Nov 2015, 15:10
I don't understand man bun hate. It seems a perfectly serviceable hairstyle.

Poor Momo will overheat if she keeps that blush up. Must be handy to be an AI in that situation though-"I'm not embarrassed, I need a coolant check!" 
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: ysth on 24 Nov 2015, 16:00
Were they ever not? I've never heard them mentioned in a positive light.
http://www.mtv.com/news/1935690/harry-styles-man-buns/ (http://www.mtv.com/news/1935690/harry-styles-man-buns/)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Nov 2015, 16:05
Well...ok then.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Origamigryphon on 24 Nov 2015, 19:05
I had totally forgotten about any kind of interaction between Sven and Momo...can someone please point me to the requisite strips for remembrance purposes?  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Nov 2015, 19:07
Starting with 1652 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1652) th (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1653)ro (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1654)ug (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1655)h (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1656) 1657 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1657), although they never really interact. The dream sequence in 1658 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658) on the other hand...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Arancaytar on 24 Nov 2015, 19:08
I just opened this thread specifically to post it, hoping it hadn't been :D

It's an awesome callback (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1658).
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Morituri on 24 Nov 2015, 19:09
It looks to me like May and Momo are BOTH seriously crushing on Sven. 

May speaks fluent vulgarity and is very confrontational; but she's going to a whole lot of effort to keep his attention here, and starting with a challenge like that is an often-successful way of flirting.  Sven probably has the experience to know this.   It looks to me like he's sort of egging her on by rising to the challenge, which is also an often-successful way of flirting.  Without knowing more about May's past, I don't know whether she has the experience to realize this or not. 

But if I made bets, I think I'd bet that right now May has a better chance of getting with Sven than Momo does.

Poor Momo on the other hand is seeing it as a fight where May is behaving in a completely unforgivable way toward Sven, and she's just mortified to be in a situation where her crush is going to judge "May and Momo" for something she would never, ever, not in a million years, have done.   

And if Sven and May do get together, look for Momo in either serious angst or the first really uncontrolled rage of her life, out of jealousy. 
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Omega Entity on 24 Nov 2015, 19:12
Really? To me May looks entirely disinterested, and then irritated in the last panel due to Sven's thwarting of her attempt to get a rise out of him. I don't see any visual cues to indicate otherwise. Conversely, Sven seems to be playing the straightman to point of asking for clarification on May's part in order to be able to fully understand the joke. He looks dead serious, and even mildly puzzled in the last panel.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: hedgie on 24 Nov 2015, 19:15
The first few times I read that comment, I saw "irradiated" rather than "irritated".  Perhaps that's just my brain being odd again.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: DrBear on 24 Nov 2015, 19:24
New comic up ... and I'm beginning to wonder if May wasn't programmed by Yelling Bird.

Oh, and May DID deserve it.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 Nov 2015, 19:29
Shocking :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: chaospersonified on 24 Nov 2015, 19:31
May, that's what you get. Hedgie, that makes me think you're playing Fallout 4.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Nov 2015, 20:04
Hmmm, could be. For some reason I didn't think of embarrassment but it does make more sense.

The upturned eyebrows (like a worried expression) are the giveaway. Couple that with the blush, fearful expression, and the seriously hunched shoulders, and you have the look of someone so mortified that they wish the ground would rip open and send them hurtling to the center of the earth.

Ever notice that the ground never does that when you actually need it to? Serious bug there.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 24 Nov 2015, 20:24
So May --- genital insecurity much?
(whoops. I was about to suggest that May is no better equipped now than she was as a hologram, but that probably verges on the "discussion of private parts" thingy. Sorry.)

Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 24 Nov 2015, 20:53
Nothing says "None of your business." like 50,000 volts.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 24 Nov 2015, 22:59
May? This means that Momo doesn't want to play: "If you show me yours, I'll show you mine!"

Now, it will be interesting to see what damage this may have caused. After all, May has a fairly cheap and cheerful minimum-specification chassis...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: snubnose on 24 Nov 2015, 23:52
Well, given how unrealistically sentient AIs in QC are, a human-robot romance would actually be possible in that universe.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: anahata on 25 Nov 2015, 00:02
Now, it will be interesting to see what damage this may have caused.

If there's any physical damage, the worst for May could be the humiliation of having to be fixed by Marigold.
At least she's learned that Momo's not completely soft.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Pintman on 25 Nov 2015, 00:23
So May --- genital insecurity much?
(whoops. I was about to suggest that May is no better equipped now than she was as a hologram, but that probably verges on the "discussion of private parts" thingy. Sorry.)

May violated the non-discussion of private parts; that's why Momo zapped her.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: osaka on 25 Nov 2015, 03:42
I suppose this was inevitable, after all, it already looked like Momo was going to fry May yesterday.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Nov 2015, 04:52
Momo had better hope that May is undamaged. If she's not, Momo's headed to robot jail.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Nov 2015, 05:01
I wonder if Jeph picks those letters carefully or just mashes the keyboard.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: sluthy on 25 Nov 2015, 05:11
Is it just me, or does shocked May look like a completely different art style? That face looks like someone Jeph's never drawn before.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Scarblac on 25 Nov 2015, 05:17
Well, given how unrealistically sentient AIs in QC are, a human-robot romance would actually be possible in that universe.
This irritates me about QC: why would you have a universe with AIs in them when you're only going to make them exactly like humans?

AIs have the same insecurities, complexes, money troubles, friendships and  sexual interests as humans...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 25 Nov 2015, 05:30
Those are only the human like ones, the comic's mentioned AIs that are far different but they have no relevance to our cast most of the time so we don't see them.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 25 Nov 2015, 05:36
Next comic: Momo finds out she deleted May's harddrive.

Comic after that: Momo behind (virtual) bars.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: cesium133 on 25 Nov 2015, 05:38
Comic after comic after that: Momo shows up in a maid uniform on Dale's glasses.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: TinPenguin on 25 Nov 2015, 06:50
This is probably the robot equivalent of a well-deserved smack in the face.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Case on 25 Nov 2015, 07:18
Mistake Not ... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Nov 2015, 07:21
Yup. Momo has a literal Stare of Death. May does bring up an interesting point. Apparently it is possible, probably not even infrequent for humans and AnthroPCs to be ah... physically intimate. It's at least common enough that the err... equipment necessary for such activities is either standard or an option for some chassis.

I'm not sure if May has any kind of sexual interest in humans. She does seem interested, possibly fascinated with body parts, especially on women. I'm not sure if that indicates personal interest, or it's something more like Pintsize's obsession with porn and butts.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 25 Nov 2015, 07:34
I'm not sure if May has any kind of sexual interest in humans. She does seem interested, possibly fascinated with body parts, especially on women. I'm not sure if that indicates personal interest, or it's something more like Pintsize's obsession with porn and butts.

My theory? I'm thinking along these lines: Remember that May's original preferred chassis was a supersonic fighter/interceptor. She's never really had an interest in a humanoid chassis before she was stuck in one as part of her probation. I suspect that she never realised that such a small, slow and ground-bound chassis could have so many interesting functions. Partly out of curiosity and partly out of a growing realisation that she might be interested in this stuff, she's exploring others' use of these features.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: DashaBlade on 25 Nov 2015, 07:36
My theory is that May was trying to be edgy, but she's the one who got shocked by her own words.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Schwungrad on 25 Nov 2015, 08:27
Maybe May's interest in such things is connected with the fact that her last humanoid representation had been described as "barbie doll" by herself (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2497) as well as others (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2505)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Zebediah on 25 Nov 2015, 08:35
And I strongly suspect  that she's still "built like a Barbie doll down there."
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mad Cat on 25 Nov 2015, 08:48
Given that in human jail/prison, sex is forbidden, I can't see the robot parole board popping for a chassis model with those… peripherals. Even for the male-type AIs. Just swap "Ken doll" for "Barbie doll".

Why are May and Momo even hanging out together, again? They have nothing in common besides being AIs. I'm not even sure May's technicly a female-type.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Nov 2015, 08:59
Because Marigold and Dale spend a lot of time together. Momo probably thinks or thought of it as 'helping to reform the criminal AI, so as to improve human-AI relations'. May doesn't know a lot of people, and with her abrasive personality I doubt she gets a lot of people who want to spend time with her. I think they've grown to enjoy spending time together.. mostly. When May isn't being super crude and Momo isn't shocking her.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mad Cat on 25 Nov 2015, 09:02
Ah, right. I kinda forgotten that their humans' proximity to each other kinda imposed on them a proximity as well.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Rincewind on 25 Nov 2015, 09:05
I wonder if Momo's new chassis also has that Eel-Launcher accessory.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: theMarc on 25 Nov 2015, 09:33
Hmm... Nope, I'm still not tired of reading about Momo and May's escapades.

I think we just need to clone Jeph, and have the clone work exclusively on a Momo & May webcomic.
...and have another clone for a Hannelore webcomic.
...and another for a robot fight club webcomic.
...and another for a Clairepuns webcomic.
...and another for a...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: CaptainFish on 25 Nov 2015, 09:47
Given that in human jail/prison, sex is forbidden, I can't see the robot parole board popping for a chassis model with those… peripherals. Even for the male-type AIs. Just swap "Ken doll" for "Barbie doll".

Why are May and Momo even hanging out together, again? They have nothing in common besides being AIs. I'm not even sure May's technicly a female-type.

I don't know that Momo actually likes or has anything in common with anyone she encounters. She mostly just tolerates their behaviour.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Truec on 25 Nov 2015, 10:12
Hmm... Nope, I'm still not tired of reading about Momo and May's escapades.

I think we just need to clone Jeph, and have the clone work exclusively on a Momo & May webcomic.
...and have another clone for a Hannelore webcomic.
...and another for a robot fight club webcomic.
...and another for a Clairepuns webcomic.
...and another for a...

I demand at least two for Alice Grove.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Nov 2015, 12:33
Momo described Pintsize as a "friend" early on and said the usual result of a companionship contract is a friendship. If she doesn't like Marigold, she's got emotional dynamics going on that have the same results as liking someone.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: osaka on 25 Nov 2015, 12:52
Comic after comic after that: Momo shows up in a maid uniform on Dale's glasses.

I was just thinking that it can't be pleasant to recieve an electric shock straight to your eyes because your glasses are mad at you.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Kugai on 25 Nov 2015, 13:05
Lesson for today May is don't piss off the cute AI.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Storel on 25 Nov 2015, 13:08
Lesson for today May is don't piss off the cute AI.

"cute AI" = "kawaii AI" = "kawAIi"

Don't piss off the kawAIi!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Akima on 25 Nov 2015, 13:17
Apparently it is possible, probably not even infrequent for humans and AnthroPCs to be ah... physically intimate. It's at least common enough that the err... equipment necessary for such activities is either standard or an option for some chassis.
Of course it is...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Nov 2015, 13:47
(mod, facetious)
If any AnthroPCs register here and credibly say they're feeling driven away by this discussion then I'll ask for it to stop.
(/)

We do have textev about anatomically correct chassis designs.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 25 Nov 2015, 14:11
Ok, I need some fashion enlightenment here.

Why is the manbun or whatever people want to call it so hated? I have long hair but my hairstyle doesn't really allow me to have a bun. So I just go for your average pony tail when I don't want to look like your average metalhead.
What's the reason it got a douche-stain all over it? Just curious.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Nov 2015, 14:49
As far as I can tell, it's the reverse of the cause and effect. Kind of like with the mullet, the trillby/fedora or the 'tramp stamp' tattoos. Certain groups of unpleasant people have taken to wearing these things as a fashion choice and it has become associated with them. So the thought goes, some jerky guys started wearing their hair in a lazy, messy 'bun'. It became associated with them. So if you choose to wear the man bun, you must be one of those jerky guys. People would say 'but that doesn't make sense! You don't have to act like that to wear your hair like that!'. Well no, of course not. But making sense is not a requirement to being judgmental to stereotyping people. In fact it's usually a detriment to doing those things.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: improvnerd on 25 Nov 2015, 14:51
Do we think May is actually damaged, or is she just swearing in the last panel?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: J on 25 Nov 2015, 14:56
for someone who's afraid of AIs being perceived as dangerous, momo can be pretty damn trigger-happy sometimes.




Ok, I need some fashion enlightenment here.

Why is the manbun or whatever people want to call it so hated? I have long hair but my hairstyle doesn't really allow me to have a bun. So I just go for your average pony tail when I don't want to look like your average metalhead.
What's the reason it got a douche-stain all over it? Just curious.
people enjoy being judgmental, and judging other people to be douchebags lets them do it without having to face up to their own douchebaggery
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Roxtar on 25 Nov 2015, 15:06
hope this isn't over the line (more of an art critique than anything else) but on the subject of genitals it appears that Sven has none in this comic.
from bottom of fly  to belt buckle in frame 1 is ~ 18 pixels
from bottom of eyeglass lens to top of eyeglass lens is ~ 14 pixels, and Sven isn't wearing huge glasses.
so, either that belt is riding mid-cock (which judging by ass position seems unlikely) or sven is a ken-doll.

Putting the word "genitals" into red text of a huge size was utterly puerile; I normalised it.
the use of "puerile" as a pejorative indicates that being boyish is a negative. please correct your thinking.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Welu on 25 Nov 2015, 15:07
So it seems electricity doesn't having the "jacking on" effect for robots in QC.

Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: bhtooefr on 25 Nov 2015, 15:12
It's worth noting that... we can safely say that Momo's shock is deadly force to both people (it's over 50 V and 30 mA simultaneously) and electronics (canonically (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1474), and UNINTENTIONALLY, at least in the old chassis).

Now, Momo had a reasonable belief that she needed to defend herself - May may well have committed assault under Massachusetts law by going for Momo's skirt, which allowed Momo to use a reasonable defense... but she was not at risk of serious bodily harm or death, so she was not allowed to use deadly force.

Upshot, both of them could go to robot jail if someone wants to file charges.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 Nov 2015, 15:26
Does it occur to no one that Momo can control the power of her taser burst? That she doesn't have to or indeed does use it with intent to kill every time she uses it? That the force could have been the equivalent of punching a friend who made a crude and inappropriate comment about the form (or in this case, existence) of her genitals. I am not saying this excuses physical violence in response to crude language and inappropriate questions. But there is a level of difference between punching a friend and pulling out a gun and shooting them. It's pretty unlikely Momo's heading to Robot Jail over this. And even less likely that May will be the one to report her.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Roxtar on 25 Nov 2015, 16:00
Does it occur to no one that Momo can control the power of her taser burst? That she doesn't have to or indeed does use it with intent to kill every time she uses it? That the force could have been the equivalent of punching a friend who made a crude and inappropriate comment about the form (or in this case, existence) of her genitals. I am not saying this excuses physical violence in response to crude language and inappropriate questions. But there is a level of difference between punching a friend and pulling out a gun and shooting them. It's pretty unlikely Momo's heading to Robot Jail over this. And even less likely that May will be the one to report her.

arcing electricity follows fairly predictable rules. circuitry also responds fairly predictably to current.

seeing as how a simple static spark (arc measured in millimeters) can fry a computer motherboard, any arc covering the distance shown in the comic would easily destroy a cpu/ram/other. if May were grounded... the current would bypass her circuitry, but she wouldn't go all "ajfhaskfhdskehf" like she does in the comic were that the case.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: CaptainFish on 25 Nov 2015, 16:05
I don't think May's posture or words in panel 3 are consistent with her "going for Momo's skirt." She was being very shitty but I don't see any contact being initiated.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Akima on 25 Nov 2015, 16:29
Why is the manbun or whatever people want to call it so hated?
Meh... It's just the "Nobody should live their lives differently from the way I do" reaction. Refer to people's negative reactions to "long haired hippies" or mullets. I think there's an element of racism too, since men wearing long hair in buns has been, and still is, much more common outside Western cultures.
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Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 25 Nov 2015, 17:12
I think I may be growing to accept - even enjoy - the forum's inevitable overanalysis of QC slapstick humour.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: electromgneticDstroyosaur on 25 Nov 2015, 17:58
Ultra-Car is Hank the Dismemberer.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Roxtar on 25 Nov 2015, 18:38
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080221220152/athfwiki/images/thumb/e/ec/Aqua_teen_turkatron.gif/500px-Aqua_teen_turkatron.gif)
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: theMarc on 25 Nov 2015, 19:20
Hmm... Nope, I'm still not tired of reading about Momo and May's escapades.

I think we just need to clone Jeph, and have the clone work exclusively on a Momo & May webcomic.
...and have another clone for a Hannelore webcomic.
...and another for a robot fight club webcomic.
...and another for a Clairepuns webcomic.
...and another for a...

I demand at least two for Alice Grove.

It's settled, then.  It's time to go all Clone Saga on Jeph.  Who wants to volunteer to be our Jackal?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: wlewisiii on 25 Nov 2015, 19:33
Mistake Not ... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series)
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Good ship name.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 25 Nov 2015, 19:55
We were all wrong. Jerry is Hank the Dismemberer.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 Nov 2015, 20:05
... Apparently it is possible, probably not even infrequent for humans and AnthroPCs to be ah... physically intimate. It's at least common enough that the err... equipment necessary for such activities is either standard or an option for some chassis.

Fleshlights. Real Dolls. Advanced technology gives people more opportunities to be people. I am sure at least some AIs are "equipped". (And I wonder what Momo thinks of that.) At least it appears no AIs are forced into a life not of their choosing.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Nov 2015, 20:22
Yet the fight club exists.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 25 Nov 2015, 20:32
Why is the manbun or whatever people want to call it so hated?
Meh... It's just the "Nobody should live their lives differently from the way I do" reaction. Refer to people's negative reactions to "long haired hippies" or mullets. I think there's an element of racism too, since men wearing long hair in buns has been, and still is, much more common outside Western cultures.
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[nitpick ] Those are top-knots, not man-buns (/nitpick]
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Omega Entity on 25 Nov 2015, 20:37
Yet the fight club exists.
But no one is forced to participate. Life circumstances might make it feel like the only option they might have, but it's not compulsory by any means.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 25 Nov 2015, 21:21
Yet the fight club exists.
But no one is forced to participate. Life circumstances might make it feel like the only option they might have, but it's not compulsory by any means.

You're playing games with semantics. I daresay that the original context was meant to imply "forced by circumstance." Claiming that no AIs are forced into a life not of their choosing holds very little meaning if you are going to restricted "forced" to mean direct legal or physical compulsion.

Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Omega Entity on 25 Nov 2015, 22:39
But we're not talking about, say, the involuntary landing of a plane due to necessity. Much like how prostitution or working a fast food job isn't preferred by most, there's still an element of choice involved, difficulty in other options aside.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 Nov 2015, 22:41
There's no reason for Jeph to go there but given the society he's portrayed there are probably things going on as bad as AIs doing sex work when they'd rather do something else.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: DashaBlade on 26 Nov 2015, 08:00
If the fight club is exploitative, and robots are victims of circumstance that causes them to make the choice to fight, even against their own better interests, then Momo is way off base for being upset at the robots who fight. She'd be the AI equivalent of a person who blames a prostitute for prostitution, while knowing that the prostitute in question was manipulated into selling sex. Or a person who blames a common soldier for a war, when enlisted people aren't the ones making the policy and the soldier only enlisted because the economy is in the toilet and he couldn't find a job in the private sector.

And if that's the case, I think my respect for Momo would go way, way down. You don't blame the pawn for the chess player's strategies, even if the pawn willingly joins the game.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: J on 26 Nov 2015, 08:11
i personally think it'd be a pretty interesting turn if after her whole thing with Bubbles & the BattleBots momo were to accidentally injure someone
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Nov 2015, 08:24
i personally think it'd be a pretty interesting turn if after her whole thing with Bubbles & the BattleBots momo were to accidentally injure someone

Hey! Possible future story arc!

May is badly hurt (power cell burned out) and she has to go into storage mode until someone fixes her chassis or gives her a new one - the AI equivalent of a coma but nowhere near as hard from which to recover.

Momo is hauled before a judge and, as it is a first offence and May admits that she was pushing her hard, she is enrolled in anger management therapy. It turns out that Robot Anger Management Therapy is Corpse Witch's day job. So it is that Momo meets a lot of the fighters and, more importantly, spends a lot of time with Bubbles, who has a lot of anger to work out.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mmeaninglessnamee on 26 Nov 2015, 08:26
Actually, we haven't heard of Jimbo publishing any books recently. Maybe he's a robot fighter now.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 26 Nov 2015, 11:57
If the fight club is exploitative, and robots are victims of circumstance that causes them to make the choice to fight, even against their own better interests, then Momo is way off base for being upset at the robots who fight. She'd be the AI equivalent of a person who blames a prostitute for prostitution, while knowing that the prostitute in question was manipulated into selling sex. Or a person who blames a common soldier for a war, when enlisted people aren't the ones making the policy and the soldier only enlisted because the economy is in the toilet and he couldn't find a job in the private sector.

And if that's the case, I think my respect for Momo would go way, way down. You don't blame the pawn for the chess player's strategies, even if the pawn willingly joins the game.

Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: DashaBlade on 26 Nov 2015, 12:17
Well, she's made her position on military AIs pretty clear - she understands them but still thinks it's wrong. I'm only extrapolating at this point, but I'd think that someone who fights for money as an individual rather than in a clear chain of command might not be looked on too kindly either.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 26 Nov 2015, 12:32
I think she's more likely to look down on people who dislike others based on supposition.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Kugai on 26 Nov 2015, 13:21
Turkey Terminator??
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: improvnerd on 26 Nov 2015, 14:56
Turkey Terminator??


Looks more the the Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Zebediah on 26 Nov 2015, 15:33
Turkey of Borg.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Akima on 26 Nov 2015, 15:43
Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?
Momo has given at least part of the answer herself. She believes that AIs that exhibit violent behaviour provoke "ZOMG!!! KILLER ROBOTZ!!!" fears, however unjustified, and potentially create anti-AI sentiment and prejudice.

More generally, and speaking from personal experience, if one has made a commitment to non-violence (which Momo might have done, though some doubt is cast on this by her willingness to resort to electrocution in situations where violent self-defence was not obviously necessary :-P), one faces the problem of how to respond to people who have made other life-choices. I believe that Rule One is "Don't be a jerk about it". There have been, and still are, a number of people on this forum who have served in their country's military. This is not a choice I would make (assuming there actually was a choice where conscription is in force), but there is not only one decent and honourable path in life, so I'm content simply to accept that their way is not my way. The same applies to fighting in the ring, eating meat, wearing a man-bun, and many other things.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: moriastar on 26 Nov 2015, 16:19
Sorry if this seems off topic, but I'm curious where Jeff gets the pictures of the Turkeys. Does he do a google search or did he take them himself at some point at some turkey farm?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 26 Nov 2015, 16:39
Momo has given at least part of the answer herself. She believes that AIs that exhibit violent behaviour provoke "ZOMG!!! KILLER ROBOTZ!!!" fears, however unjustified, and potentially create anti-AI sentiment and prejudice.

Okay. Fine. Apparently, we're all happy to believe that, because Momo disagrees with AIs getting involved in human military conflict specifically, then we're going to extrapolate from that one data point that surely she's upset at robots who fight through absolute necessity due to their unfortunate circumstances.

Here's where I get grumpy.

Quote
If the fight club is exploitative, and robots are victims of circumstance that causes them to make the choice to fight, even against their own better interests, then Momo is way off base for being upset at the robots who fight.

So, we're getting angry at Momo for failing to see that they are victims of circumstance, immediately after assuming that she must have failed to see, or has ignored, that they are victims of circumstance.

I can't get my head around the circular logic. You're begging the question (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html).

So, could you possibly entertain the very very slight notion that she might not actually be upset at the robots who fight, for the very reasons you cited - that they are victims of circumstance? I'm sure she's upset at the necessity of it. But, "You don't blame the pawn for the chess player's strategies" - why are you assuming that she does? Maybe she does, but how about the benefit of the doubt?

DAMN YOU, CLOUD! *shakes fist*
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Akima on 26 Nov 2015, 16:52
Momo has given at least part of the answer herself. She believes that AIs that exhibit violent behaviour provoke "ZOMG!!! KILLER ROBOTZ!!!" fears, however unjustified, and potentially create anti-AI sentiment and prejudice.
Okay. Fine. Apparently, we're all happy to believe that, because Momo disagrees with AIs getting involved in human military conflict specifically, then we're going to extrapolate from that one data point that surely she's upset at robots who fight through absolute necessity due to their unfortunate circumstances.
Er... What? I don't think I extrapolated anything.

Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?
But I do think I misread this sentence. I read it as "Why do you think she's upset at robots who fight?", rather than "Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?" referring specifically to the the fight-club robots. My bad and my apologies.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 26 Nov 2015, 17:04
Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?
But I do think I misread this sentence. I read it as "Why do you think she's upset at robots who fight?", rather than "Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?" referring specifically to the the fight-club robots. My bad and my apologies.

Ah! Thanks for clarifying that. I apologise as well for not realising that you were referring to AIs that exhibit violent behaviour in general rather than specifically the robots that fight at the rink. Yes, that's probably not an extrapolation.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Somebody on 26 Nov 2015, 20:10
Meanwhile, comic. In which we find that Faye is irreplaced.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mad Cat on 26 Nov 2015, 20:18
Why do you think she's upset at the robots who fight?
Momo has given at least part of the answer herself. She believes that AIs that exhibit violent behaviour provoke "ZOMG!!! KILLER ROBOTZ!!!" fears, however unjustified, and potentially create anti-AI sentiment and prejudice.

More generally, and speaking from personal experience, if one has made a commitment to non-violence (which Momo might have done, though some doubt is cast on this by her willingness to resort to electrocution in situations where violent self-defence was not obviously necessary :-P), one faces the problem of how to respond to people who have made other life-choices. I believe that Rule One is "Don't be a jerk about it". There have been, and still are, a number of people on this forum who have served in their country's military. This is not a choice I would make (assuming there actually was a choice where conscription is in force), but there is not only one decent and honourable path in life, so I'm content simply to accept that their way is not my way. The same applies to fighting in the ring, eating meat, wearing a man-bun, and many other things.
"Respect all ways. Practice first your own." -- Master Po, Kung Fu
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: hedgie on 26 Nov 2015, 20:55
Meanwhile, comic. In which we find that Faye is irreplaced.

May has the attitude to start working there, and she certainly doesn't drink.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 26 Nov 2015, 20:59
Irreplaced?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: bhtooefr on 26 Nov 2015, 21:53
I think a lot of what's going on is Dora's trust issues, at this point - especially after Faye screwed her over, she really won't trust anyone to run the business unless she's absolutely forced to.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 26 Nov 2015, 22:11
Irreplaced?

Perfectly cromulent.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: BenRG on 26 Nov 2015, 23:18
Have you ever heard the saying "It sounds weirder than it actually was"? Something tells me that this didn't apply in the event that Hannelore was describing today. You are left with the duty to visualise Penny barricading the restrooms and singing La Marseillaise in a raucous voice. Did Tai have to drag Dora away in the end?

Meanwhile, it tells you a lot that the response Hanners has to May is: "Oh, that's May." Building up immunity through exposure seems to be a thing socially too!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 Nov 2015, 23:30
At least it appears no AIs are forced into a life not of their choosing.
Lessee... Momo seeks a way to repay the debt she feels she owes to Marigold. So she gets a library job. As an AI, she is able to plug directly into the library databases. In my head canon, she acts as an intelligent search engine for them. And does a job a human could not do nearly as well.

May finds herself exploring the lower rungs of the economic ladder. She could probably do some kind of high level data manipulating job, but given her history, who would trust her? (And could she do such a job without being bored to tears?) So she gets jobs mere humans could do (but would rather not). If she were "equipped", and willing to pander to the base desires of the fleshlings, her range of choices would be wider. If not more attractive.

Bubbles ... seems to be trapped inside her own head. Her original motivation, a noble one, has led her into despondence. What she could do, she would not.

I seem to be groping toward the notion that these AIs, while limited by circumstance, are not denied choice. In the sense that there are no restrictive laws, no piles of burning robot bodies, they are still able to find their own destiny.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 26 Nov 2015, 23:47
As for today's comic, I would dismiss it as utter nonsense, except that we know we can rely on Hannelore to be truthful. The only thing we learn from history is that we've been reading the wrong kind of history. I think what Penelope actually wanted was to organize a worker's soviet. The means of caffinization belong in the hands of the people!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Mad Cat on 27 Nov 2015, 05:26
Why did Hanners shrink upwards of 4" between panels 3 & 4?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 Nov 2015, 05:30
Irreplaced?

Perfectly cromulent.
I'm not finding it anywhere. Does it just mean "not replaced"?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: bhtooefr on 27 Nov 2015, 06:03
Also, is it just me, or are waists being drawn really weirdly lately? I can't put my finger on why they look weird, but they look weird.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Arancaytar on 27 Nov 2015, 06:16
Does it occur to no one that Momo can control the power of her taser burst? That she doesn't have to or indeed does use it with intent to kill every time she uses it? That the force could have been the equivalent of punching a friend who made a crude and inappropriate comment about the form (or in this case, existence) of her genitals. I am not saying this excuses physical violence in response to crude language and inappropriate questions. But there is a level of difference between punching a friend and pulling out a gun and shooting them. It's pretty unlikely Momo's heading to Robot Jail over this. And even less likely that May will be the one to report her.

arcing electricity follows fairly predictable rules. circuitry also responds fairly predictably to current.

seeing as how a simple static spark (arc measured in millimeters) can fry a computer motherboard, any arc covering the distance shown in the comic would easily destroy a cpu/ram/other. if May were grounded... the current would bypass her circuitry, but she wouldn't go all "ajfhaskfhdskehf" like she does in the comic were that the case.

Except that electricity (and for that matter mechanical damage) has never, ever permanently damaged on AnthroPCs. Even when they appear to be impaired in ways resembling brain injury, they recover quickly.

If it's not cartoon physics in action, then AnthroPCs must be practically impervious to damage (or somehow self-repairing, though I'm not sure if nanotech has been mentioned in the comic yet). In that case all the apparent cognitive effects - lisping, stuttering, etc. - are deliberate reactions or programmed reflexes. AnthroPCs mimic a lot of behavior for communication and social purposes; it would make sense for them to have mock reactions to physical violence even if it doesn't damage them.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: MrNumbers on 27 Nov 2015, 06:29
I think I've finally worked out just how invasive May's comments on Wednesday were. I present my analogy:

I imagine it'd be akin to someone staring at you with their Google Glasses on, taking a picture, and then watching them reverse image search that to find porn stars that look like you to decide how bangable you are right in front of you, while telling you that is what they are doing.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Welu on 27 Nov 2015, 06:35
Why did Hanners shrink upwards of 4" between panels 3 & 4?

Jeph zoomed in and moved up a little. You can use the bottom of the chalk board as a reference to see her shoulders are in the same place even though the comic camera, as such, moved. Sven's bun and tilted head make his transition less dramatic.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: DrBear on 27 Nov 2015, 07:01
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Why did Hanners shrink upwards of 4" between panels 3 & 4?

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Also, is it just me, or are waists being drawn really weirdly lately? I can't put my finger on why they look weird, but they look weird.

Maybe Jeph is still adjusting to the metric system in Canada.  :-)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: themacnut on 27 Nov 2015, 09:07
I think a lot of what's going on is Dora's trust issues, at this point - especially after Faye screwed her over, she really won't trust anyone to run the business unless she's absolutely forced to.

Not only do I agree with this, but I think it may be even worse; Dora's confidence in her own judgment of people has been called into question. After all, she judged Faye to be ready for an assistant manager position (over the objections of some of her employees no less!) right before Faye went into her alcoholic tailspin. How does she know she won't make that mistake again? Better to not take the chance. Yeah, it'd mean back to working crazy hours and no vacations ever, but at least she'll know the shop is the hands of the only person she feels she can really trust; her own.

Sucks to be Dora. Sucks even more to be her SO at this point, since any personal relationships are likely to be placed a distant second to running CoD.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Kugai on 27 Nov 2015, 13:22
I think the whole thing with Faye, and there is fault to go round on both sides of that issue, has lnocked Doras confidence.  Boss Dora knows she did the right thing, but Friend Dora is feeling kinda like a heel, especially after Faye ended up in Hospital, and she feels she let Faye (and herself to a small degree) down.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: wlewisiii on 27 Nov 2015, 17:33
Why did Hanners shrink upwards of 4" between panels 3 & 4?

Sat down on a chair behind the counter?
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 27 Nov 2015, 19:04
Things got so heated, Hannelore is still shrinking as she gradually cools.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Eddurd on 27 Nov 2015, 21:11
Do you hear baristas sing?
Singing the songs of Coffee Doom!
We've had a caffeine revolution here
Since Dora left the room!

When the milk is good and steamed
And the espresso has been made,
Serve up a latte to the lass
On the barricade!

As Penelope's proposing revolution in this place,
Dear Hannelore is calling to her Dad in outer space,
"Dear Daddy, could you point a laser at somebody's face?"

Do you hear baristas sing?
Singing the songs of Coffee Doom!
Now that Penelope has barricaded up the ladies' room,
Will a fight be breaking out?
And will my order be delayed?
Soon the barista's blood will baptize the barricade!
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Storel on 29 Nov 2015, 02:48
Irreplaced?

Perfectly cromulent.
I'm not finding it anywhere. Does it just mean "not replaced"?
If something is replaceable, it is something that can be replaced.
If something is irreplaceable, it is something that can be irreplaced. 8-)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: chaospersonified on 29 Nov 2015, 05:09
Irreplaced?

Perfectly cromulent.
I'm not finding it anywhere. Does it just mean "not replaced"?
If something is irreplaceable, it is something that can be irreplaced. 8-)

But... No... That... That is nonsensical, you cannot take a negative and verb it... It is like unringing a bell...
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 29 Nov 2015, 14:42
Okay, I'll advocate for the devil...  :evil:

It's a passive verb rather than an active one.

It's of course silly to say "I am unringing the bell."
But it's fine to say "the bell remains unrung" (i.e. no-one has rung it).

It would have been correct to say that Faye is unreplaced, of course... but irreplaced carried the extra amusing connotation that she is irreplaceable at CoD.

I thought it an amusing, apt, and concise observation... hence my comment at the time that the usage was cromulent.  :)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Sullivan on 29 Nov 2015, 16:38
This turned up in my Facebook feed, not regarding May's comment in 3098 (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3098). But it should have been...

(https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12274361_1097115510312384_5618380975338336072_n.jpg?oh=c12c589a6e3c661963b5a06cc83db6db&oe=56D690C6)
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 29 Nov 2015, 17:24
Why is the manbun or whatever people want to call it so hated?
Meh... It's just the "Nobody should live their lives differently from the way I do" reaction. Refer to people's negative reactions to "long haired hippies" or mullets. I think there's an element of racism too, since men wearing long hair in buns has been, and still is, much more common outside Western cultures.
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[nitpick ] Those are top-knots, not man-buns (/nitpick]

I only just noticed (possibly this is old news, or I may even be imagining things) that the comic (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=3097) has changed to say "topknot" instead of "manbun". I have to say that I don't see the difference between the two. Also (and this may appear to contradict my previous statement), I welcome the change.

The currently-trendy "man-" prefix appears to be used these days for one of two purposes.
The example of "man-bun" probably started as 1, but as people started to make fun of the style, it seems to have slid into 2.

I'm a fan of neither, honestly.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Method of Madness on 29 Nov 2015, 18:13
It was always topknot, at least in the comic. Jeph's called it a manbun in the newspost though.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Tova on 29 Nov 2015, 18:49
It was always topknot, at least in the comic. Jeph's called it a manbun in the newspost though.

Okay. I guess that maybe have been the source of my confusion.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 03 Dec 2015, 03:01
If something is replaceable, it is something that can be replaced.
If something is irreplaceable, it is something that can be irreplaced.


I'm stealing that.
Title: Re: WCDT 23-27 November 2015 (Strips 3096-3100)
Post by: Storel on 04 Dec 2015, 00:32
If something is replaceable, it is something that can be replaced.
If something is irreplaceable, it is something that can be irreplaced.


I'm stealing that.

Glad you like it! 8-)