It would be kinda weird if Episode VIII picked up immediately after VII left off. But it would also be weird if it picked up sometime later and resorted to using flashbacks. But it was also weird showing Rey's Force vision, not to mention Anakin's dream about his mother in Ep II. Sticking to the episodic, straightforward storytelling used in the Holy Trilogy kinda makes it hard to try anything new, I guess.
Carrie (and Gary) Fisher confirm that Space Bear is the working title for Star Wars: Episode VIII (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/658921-space-bear-star-wars-episode-vii#/slide/1)
I hope this doesn't mean we see a return of the Ewoks.
And just to throw us all off they'll drop the bombshell that Han left Leia for Luke
the number of times in the original trilogy that han rescues luke from danger or tells him to be careful or just generally worries about luke’s well-being and makes it his personal business to ensure luke is safe
luke disappearing for decades
han coincidentally leaving at the exact same time
and coincidentally saying that he and chewie have been traveling all over the galaxy in the time since (“i knew we should’ve double-checked the outer rim territories!”)
and coincidentally saying that he’s spoken to several people who “knew luke best” about where luke may have gone and what he might be doing
and coincidentally insisting that bb-8 stay with him instead of going with finn and rey when their group comes under attack
and coincidentally demanding to see the map
and coincidentally immediately knowing that the map is incomplete
because he’s been looking… for luke… this whole fucking time…
Indeed. But seriously, how is sixth not closer to sith than fifth?
They have trailers for trailers, now?
Soooooooooooh - Why should 'The last Jedi' refer to a singleJedi?Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Soooooooooooh - Why should 'The last Jedi' refer to a single Jedi?
Leaves me wondering if this will also see the end of Kylo 'The Whiner' Ren and Snoke as the last of the Sith side of that as well.
After months of speculation about Carrie's future in the sci-fi saga, Todd has revealed that Disney bosses want to bring Princess Leia back for Episode 9. And he said he and Carrie's daughter, Billie Lourd, have granted the studio rights to use recent footage for the finale. It is understood that CGI will not be used to recreate Leia.
Trailer Just Dropped!
I won't stop expecting Mace Windu to show up in some form until the end credits roll on Episode IX.
Well, I don't actually expect the film specifically to resemble The Empire Strikes Back myself, for whatever that is
FWIW, the 'grey path' Force adepts are called 'Bendu' and have been hanging around in the background for a while, in-universe. I suspect that Luke has found out something about their teachings and that is what is in the books he is shown giving Rey in the trailer. If Abrams follows Lucas's own writings, those books are the Book of the Whills, the oldest 'how to...' book on the Force in the galaxy (probably more than slightly based on the RL Kabbalah).
Ehhh, if it's not in the movies it's not absolute canon to me, but that's still interesting. Thanks!
Well, I don't actually expect the film specifically to resemble The Empire Strikes Back myself, for whatever that is
You do realise that The Force Awakens resembled The Phantom Menace which in turned resembled A New Hope. A mentor figure dies in the first film of the trilogy - Han died to a Force user as did Qui Gon as did Obi Wan. A lone pilot blows up the massive station in the finale of the first film - Am I talking about Poe Dameron, Anakin Skywalker or Luke. Likewise, the heroes have to get off a desert planet with little law to deliver a vitally important message - Jakku or Tattooine (twice)?
In turn Attack of the Clones resembled The Empire Strikes Back, as did Revenge of the Sith to Return of the Jedi.
Star Wars has become formulaic. The whole series is interchangeable at this stage, just swap out characters and the plot remains pretty much the same.
but the reality of the situation is they are wrong....how, though? For decades, the movies are canon view worked, but just because Disney suddenly decides otherwise, that's no longer even a valid alternative?
Saw the new Star Wars 8 trailer. I like the ambiguity of Rey's allegiance to the black and white sides of the force. I also liked the internal conflict in Kylo. I was not a fan of them bringing power levels to Star Wars. Also Luke seems like a punk. Still sorting out how I feel about the trailer. Will totally see it in theaters.
"I have seen this raw strength once before" brought flashbacks of DBZ and power levels. It was one thing to be strong in the force before, but now its seems (granted this is just what I got out of the trailer) that Rey and I am assuming Kylo's strength in the force in over 9000.
Luke seems like a punk who doesn't want to help the galaxy. He appears (again this is just what the trailer seemed and may not be the final product) like he will train Rey, something will happen, and he will abandon her or quit.
4. Rouge One
Even the owners of properties less tangled than comics, like Star Trek, for example, pay no real attention to the continuity of their universes, where it might get in the way of telling a good story, or just lazy writing (Yes, Star Trek: Enterprise, I am looking at you).
Even the owners of properties less tangled than comics, like Star Trek, for example, pay no real attention to the continuity of their universes, where it might get in the way of telling a good story, or just lazy writing (Yes, Star Trek: Enterprise, I am looking at you).
Am I the only one who really liked Enterprise? :oops:
Even the owners of properties less tangled than comics, like Star Trek, for example, pay no real attention to the continuity of their universes, where it might get in the way of telling a good story, or just lazy writing (Yes, Star Trek: Enterprise, I am looking at you).
Am I the only one who really liked Enterprise? :oops:
Yes.
Chuck Wendig, Author of the Star Wars: Aftermath series has a really interesting review:
http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2017/12/18/the-last-jedi-a-mirror-slowly-cracking/ (http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2017/12/18/the-last-jedi-a-mirror-slowly-cracking/)
I'm with Tova, its worth your time. 2/3 of the stuff in the trailer for that movie wasn't even in the movie. Was shot just for trailer. It's not a perfect movie, but its a good Star Wars movie. It has some of the best war moments of any Star Wars movie.
Am I astounded at the (to my mind) ludicrous arguments that the backlash is down to misogyny? You bet yer bum!
Am I astounded at the (to my mind) ludicrous arguments that the backlash is down to misogyny? You bet yer bum!
I've seen a number of discussions about the backlash, but I've managed to miss this particular argument somehow.
You spend a lot of time speaking against the flaws for a film you allegedly don't hate?
So, just to clarify: because you don't like the film due to subjective criticisms of the way it is written and shot, that means nobody at all is moaning about it being an SJW Star Wars movie?
Am I astounded at the (to my mind) ludicrous arguments that the backlash is down to misogyny? You bet yer bum!
Am I astounded at the (to my mind) ludicrous arguments that the backlash is down to misogyny? You bet yer bum!
Isn't that sentence literally you saying that it's ludicrous to suggest that the backlash against the film is misogyny related?
Or by 'backlash' are you referring to just your own opinion of the movie?
That still sounds to me like my point stands - that you are saying that because your own objections are not misogynistic, then nobody's are.
But I *do* I doubt VERY much that it's the big deal this article seems to make out that it is because I have seen NO-ONE making any of the points that article makes...
And I've actually looked.
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But I *do* I doubt VERY much that it's the big deal this article seems to make out that it is because I have seen NO-ONE making any of the points that article makes...
And I've actually looked.
Yeah, well. I thought no-one was making the claims you're complaining about. And yet you're making a very big deal out of that. So, I'd be careful in drawing conclusions.
So, obviously you disliked the film. Actually, you spend so much denying you hate it, I wonder if you protest too much. It's fine if you hated it, it's fine if you disliked it. It's a pity that you felt unable to say so explicitly. My impression is that you disliked the film due to its numerous plot holes and inconsistencies. Is this very roughly correct?
Long response coming, but I've noticed that the precise phrase "bad story telling" is probably the one thing in common between the vast majority of complaints.
Influencing each other?
Sorry that I haven't got to this! In between a potentially life-changing a career switch and adopting a kitten, along with various minor home renovations, I've barely had time to sneeze. Better later than never! Regardless, here are some of my thoughts.
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Well, I agree with one thing. This won't win me any friends, but I do think there's an element of groupthink among hardcore fans.
Edit: A New Old Skywalker (https://medium.com/@hitRECordJoe/a-new-old-skywalker-253efda3809c)
I can't agree with your "groupthink" comment though, We're not all sitting in a room planning how to demolish this.
It's just as easy to point that accusation at those looking to make a silk purse out of this particular sow's ear.
I can't agree with your "groupthink" comment though, We're not all sitting in a room planning how to demolish this.
It's just as easy to point that accusation at those looking to make a silk purse out of this particular sow's ear.
Ha ha.
Of course I don't think anyone is doing that.
And yes, absolutely (your charactarisation of people who like the film notwithstanding).
In that order. :)
Edit: The article you linked. Some comments I agree with. Some I disagree. And some I find weird and nitpicky, like they are just grappling onto any flaw they can think of.
Just to make myself clear, with my groupthink remark, I'm not trying to say that people who hated the film are wrong and those who liked it are right. I'm just not convinced that the majority of people who disliked (or even liked) the film really know exactly why, let alone have the capability to explain it well. So they look to other reviews to try and explain it. So many SW geeks convinced they are great film critics.
I've read more of those comments than I care to admit.
For someone who found the film 'average', you're saying all the things being said by people who detested the film.
Anyway, we're moved from explanation into hyperbole, so I think we're done here.
But remember, some people liked Jar-Jar... :)To be fair, he is a sith lord. Maybe.
But remember, some people liked Jar-Jar... :)To be fair, he is a sith lord. Maybe.
That is what you get if you had attempted to insert common sense (something that I pointed out needed to be surgically extracted at every step in the actual shooting script of Episode VIII in order to actually make the next plot point necessary). I also agree that Luke and Rey smashing the First Order ground strike unaided would have been awesome... and a lot better than what we got. I also think that Rey should have switched from 'pull' to 'push' when fighting Kylo Ren for the lightsaber and knocking him out by crashing the hilt into his face.
Isn't it worrying that a parody made suggestions that would have made the film 10x more palatable and plausible?
Guys,
Have you subscribed to his channel? All of his videos are this way. Including every other Star Wars parody. And others. It's what he does.
I found it hilarious btw.