Didn't Emily start working at CoD before the time jump? Is Clin-ton not on Facebook? Worst stalker ever!
Corpse Witch visits her Government Handler - Agent TuringWhile Steve is ordered by his DKYA superior to stop investigating the robofighting ciub. You can write the rest of the arc from there -- though the thought of Steve with Faye is a bit unbelievable . .
Since Clin-ton is too timid to ask for a second date, why hasn't Emily asked for a second date?
I'm going backwards through the comic reading the little lines of text at the bottom. I just noticed that there's one every day.
Shouldn't take you long then foolsguinea. I don't think Jeph started doing that more than three or four months ago.
I voted in the poll for MartenClaireFaye indie snarks. I miss these.
It is possible that Emily doesn't much care one way or another about dating in general, or Clin-ton in particular. While Claire and Clinton are doing the almost stereotypical 'trying to hook up my sibling' routine, Emily is to busy making banana smoothies with a mallet, using caffeine to set her mind in motion and knitting sweaters using non-Euclidean mathematics. Romance is just something that isn't on her mind.
This situation hits close to home. Working up the to ask someone out, while being convinced it will surely go well... Having one's hopes crushed with one sentence... that feeling really sucks.Poor Clinton.
Still, Emily didn't say he was dumped, only that she didn't have the time for anything formal. So, he and she can still hang out at lunchtime and the like, if he's willing to make that effort.
Good on Emily for knowing where she stands, time management wise. Instead of juggling dating, work, and school, she has identified her priorities and knows what she needs to do to balance them.Yeah! She might be a genius who will further science by miles by making a sweater, but it makes a lot of sense that she has to work hard for it.
Well, the tactic of simply popping in for a coffee on a regular basis to say hi does have a successful* precedent...
Clinton needs to start asking out other women soon as he can, and forget about the one who rejected him. Easier said than done I know, but the man who doesn't get proactive in the dating arena is doomed to end up alone, since the vast majority of women still don't ask men out.
Plus, a man like Clinton, with his looks and lack of social skills, definitely can't afford to wait around to be asked out; it is highly unlikely to happen. He also needs to start building up a thick skin and high tolerance for rejection, since he's likely to get it a lot.
Clinton needs to start asking out other women soon as he can, and forget about the one who rejected him. Easier said than done I know, but the man who doesn't get proactive in the dating arena is doomed to end up alone, since the vast majority of women still don't ask men out.
Plus, a man like Clinton, with his looks and lack of social skills, definitely can't afford to wait around to be asked out; it is highly unlikely to happen. He also needs to start building up a thick skin and high tolerance for rejection, since he's likely to get it a lot.
The old proverb is: "He who hesitates is lost".
Emily did say she doesn't have time for dates right now. No indication she wouldn't be interested when she has the time.
Emily did say she doesn't have time for dates right now. No indication she wouldn't be interested when she has the time.
(Also, "asshole"? I've never heard guys use that against girls--is Clinton misgendering her?)I've heard it. I suspect that Jeph also wanted to stay away from such gendered insults such as "you bitch". Either would work for this comic, and a less problematic insult was used. Clinton is angry, not malicious. he's not Mary (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/wrong-2/)
"I don't have time for dates right now" is girl-language for <snip>That is almost certainly how Clinton is reading it. But this *is* Emily. She is rather literal-minded, and says exactly what she thinks. She hasn't shown any aptitude for any sort of code that doesn't involve computers.
That's a spectacular reaction to a routine rejection. I wonder what's going on in his head or in his history to account for it.do you have a sibling with a propensity for meddling?
Hoo boy.
Claire, your assigned reading for the week is Emma by Jane Austen. Clinton, your homework is a major slap upside the head.
(Also, "asshole"? I've never heard guys use that against girls--is Clinton misgendering her?)
Now someone give me a banana smoothie.
(Also, "asshole"? I've never heard guys use that against girls--is Clinton misgendering her?)
(Also, "asshole"? I've never heard guys use that against girls--is Clinton misgendering her?)
Good assignment for Claire, but I think Clinton's not wrong.
That's a spectacular reaction to a routine rejection. I wonder what's going on in his head or in his history to account for it.
It's not the end of the world if a girl shoots him down (as politely as possible, even).
Now, Claire has tricked him into another surprise meeting, and instead of this encounter having the appearance of an innocent meet-up, Claire says to him in front of Emily that the purpose of this meeting is for him to ask her out again.
Not feeling much sympathy for Clinton at the moment.
That's a spectacular reaction to a routine rejection. I wonder what's going on in his head or in his history to account for it.
That's a spectacular reaction to a routine rejection. I wonder what's going on in his head or in his history to account for it.
That's a spectacular reaction to a routine rejection. I wonder what's going on in his head or in his history to account for it.
I wish there were an extra panel that's just Clin-ton dropping a mic.
I'm actually going to agree with Clinton in this, which is not something I would normally do. It's not the rejection that is the issue, it is the manipulation. One thing I can not abide in other people is manipulative bullshit, even when done with "good intentions." Actually, that's even worse than when it is malicious. It reeks of condescension. "I know what's best for you, so I'm going to trick you into doing the thing I think you should do." Was his reaction extreme? Sure, but not unreasonable. He didn't threaten her, he just told her to fuck off and wait until he actually asks for help, which is what she should have done, what any adult should do.Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, Clinton's actually justified for being pissed off. That said, I don't think he's expressing it well, but I can also understand that, too.
It would be meddling if she tried setting him up with a random someone. But not here.
Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, Clinton's actually justified for being pissed off. That said, I don't think he's expressing it well, but I can also understand that, too.
Of course, he might just feel like crap about what he said when he calms down.
Well, anyone who thinks that Clinton's reaction is over the top or surprising has plenty of food for thought in this thread. Judging by the emotional reactions, his situation is far from unique. I've never been in that situation myself (either side of the equation). I'm actually slightly surprised, to be honest.
Well, anyone who thinks that Clinton's reaction is over the top or surprising has plenty of food for thought in this thread. Judging by the emotional reactions, his situation is far from unique. I've never been in that situation myself (either side of the equation). I'm actually slightly surprised, to be honest.
You know, I understand Clinton's situation, having been there myself, and I think Claire was kind of out of line. That said, Clinton is and always has been kind of an immature shithead. If he blew his chance back then, he doesn't deserve Emily now. Claire may technically owe him an apology, but if Clinton's expecting one, he'd best write it off.
That said, Clinton is and always has been kind of an immature shithead. If he blew his chance back then, he doesn't deserve Emily now.
Yes-ish. But hink of it from Emily's standpoint -- she's strange as hell, but she still has human emotions. How do you know she isn't giving him the brushoff because she felt rejected the first time around and doesn't want to give him a second chance? You can't really blame her for that. (Or at least that's what I tend to assume women think about me.)
That's a spectacular reaction to a routine rejection. I wonder what's going on in his head or in his history to account for it.
How often do you get rejected that it is routine?
Also, "gendered insults" seriously? As if it matters what "gender" an insult has. This is just getting ridiculous.
Clinton was always angry before when Claire has meddled. He just didn't say anything because it worked out or he was distracted by something else. This time it didn't and so he finally said what he wanted to say before.
Also, "gendered insults" seriously? As if it matters what "gender" an insult has. This is just getting ridiculous.
Doesn't it make sense a priori that there's something insulting to women in general about, say, calling someone a "cunt"? Isn't that at least plausible? The moderators have heard from women we trust that things like that make them feel less welcome, and inclusiveness is a core value here.
(That said, regarding the misgendering thing: even if some here might take it as such, you know Clinton himself (and thus Jeph) did not view it as a misgendering, because Clinton didn't immediately stop and profusely apologize for it. One of Clinton's best traits is how unconditionally supportive he is of Claire's transition and there's a big gulf between "I'm telling you that I think you're being self-centred and shitty" and "I'm saying shit intentionally to hurt you". Clinton is an immature shithead who's pissed off at his sister, but he's not a hateful immature shithead.)
Blood is thicker than water after all.
whilst Claire loves her brother, she neither likes or respects him.
I've posted this before but, in the end, one of the real problems here is that, whilst Claire loves her brother, she neither likes or respects him. Add to this the fact that she is manipulative in nature (as she's shown with Pintsize) and her basically treating Clinton's personal life as a problem to solve, with or without his cooperation, was pretty much inevitable.
The original saying is; "The blood of brotherhood is thicker than the waters of the womb", which is to say, it means the exact opposite of how it's traditioally abbrviated.
The original saying is; "The blood of brotherhood is thicker than the waters of the womb", which is to say, it means the exact opposite of how it's traditioally abbrviated.
I doubt it. It's seen in similar form in
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I came on the forum, something along the lines of "This is the horrible fallout that happens when somebody sees too many romantic comedy movies and tries to replicate their imbecilic scenarios in real-life"
I now think that's nonsense. The comment from BenRg absolutely nails it.
Doesn't it make sense a priori that there's something insulting to women in general about, say, calling someone a "cunt"? Isn't that at least plausible? The moderators have heard from women we trust that things like that make them feel less welcome, and inclusiveness is a core value here.
Then are any insults talked about in the comic as something that could make people feel less welcome and included? And yes, I am serious about that and not just being a dick. If people have to worry about general insults, just where do you draw the line? Is even mentioning the insult going too far?
The original saying is; "The blood of brotherhood is thicker than the waters of the womb", which is to say, it means the exact opposite of how it's traditionally abbreviated.
Imagine if he'd used some insult specific to her assignment at birth. That would be a thing of total horror.
The people claiming insults have genders
I think Jeph is mostly interested in writing a human female who happens to be genetically XY, and in writing a world where there's been enough social progress that this isn't a big deal to anyone.While I agree that the focus of her character isn't on her being trans, it's on her being her, Jeph has had story arcs that discuss her fears relating to her trans status. As far as the world having social progress, a counterpoint to that is that there's been discussion (http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2426) of violent transphobia existing in the QC universe, even though everyone who knows has been shown as quite supportive so far.
I agree with Analogy; the only reason the insult was brought up at all is because of Claire's gender identity. Directed at anyone else in the comic, it wouldn't have garnered mention whatsoever. There are certain insults that are only targeted toward certain genders, yes, but making this about gender is utterly pointless. If Claire was cis, it wouldn't have come up. Not everything needs to be made about gender.
The fact that someone brought up Claire's gender at all is ridiculous
being known as "the trans one" makes things very difficult for people that don't want it known.
The comic's setting likely affects the amount of social progress, too, relative to the rest of the US. I'd guess that Northampton (real or QC) is far more accepting of trans people than, say, the real or QC version of rural North Carolina.
I've posted this before but, in the end, one of the real problems here is that, whilst Claire loves her brother, she neither likes or respects him. Add to this the fact that she is manipulative in nature (as she's shown with Pintsize) and her basically treating Clinton's personal life as a problem to solve, with or without his cooperation, was pretty much inevitable.
Her intentions were good but, in the end, it was all torn down by her basically assuming that she is so smart that everything will happen according to her scheme, even though she didn't even clear it with Emily first.
As I say, it will be interesting to see where Claire goes from here. It will tell us a lot about her as a person.
This isn't the first time she's done this with Clinton and Emily, and the other times it's ended up well
Also, I think people are being way too hard on Claire. This isn't the first time she's done this with Clinton and Emily, and the other times it's ended up well and Clinton probably seemed grateful at the time. Why should she not expect it to work again?
Also, I think people are being way too hard on Claire. This isn't the first time she's done this with Clinton and Emily, and the other times it's ended up well and Clinton probably seemed grateful at the time. Why should she not expect it to work again?
You need to put yourself in the shoes of a weird, introverted, nerdy dude with little to no romantic experience, and experience that interaction he just had through those eyes rather than your own.
Introverts need to be able to approach social interactions on their own terms. Claire should have known this about her own brother.
Introverts need to be able to approach social interactions on their own terms. Claire should have known this about her own brother.
Introvert here as well. I know how it is to have to steel myself to talk to strangers. But sometimes you just have to swallow hard and do it.
Clinton's problem isn't that he didn't prepare himself. His problem was that he'd blown off facing this at all for months.
Clinton's problem isn't that he didn't prepare himself. His problem was that he'd blown off facing this at all for months.
Clinton's problem isn't that he didn't prepare himself. His problem was that he'd blown off facing this at all for months.Clinton's problem is Claire and her incessant need to enforce her will on others. No matter how well meaning, she was manipulative and controlling. That shit does not fly. It is shitty behavior regardless of intent. She deserved to be called out in it.
Clinton's problem isn't that he didn't prepare himself. His problem was that he'd blown off facing this at all for months.Clinton's problem is Claire and her incessant need to enforce her will on others. No matter how well meaning, she was manipulative and controlling. That shit does not fly. It is shitty behavior regardless of intent. She deserved to be called out in it.
Matchmaker, Matchmaker fuck the hell off.Clinton's problem isn't that he didn't prepare himself. His problem was that he'd blown off facing this at all for months.Clinton's problem is Claire and her incessant need to enforce her will on others. No matter how well meaning, she was manipulative and controlling. That shit does not fly. It is shitty behavior regardless of intent. She deserved to be called out in it.
+1
Matchmaking without the consent (or even knowledge) of the people involved = big red flag for boundary issues.
Claire didn't make Clinton ask out Emily; all she did was take him to the coffee shop where Emily worked. He could have just said hello to her. He's the one that A. pitched a fit at Claire in front of Emily and then B. made a hamfisted date ask, and then C. went medieval on Claire after Emily said no. I don't see how he could have handled it any worse.
Had Claire told Clinton Emily was there ahead of time, he probably would have chickened out. At least this way the whole thing is resolved, and Clinton can move on to blowing it with some other gal. Or just hanging out alone forever because he's chicken.
Had Claire told Clinton Emily was there ahead of time, he probably would have chickened out. At least this way the whole thing is resolved, and Clinton can move on to blowing it with some other gal. Or just hanging out alone forever because he's chicken.
Edit: Also, he's 21. He's still figuring everything out - he might be a late bloomer, just as his sister. As far as we know, Claire only started dating when she was 24, and that is because Marten made the first move. He is clearly uncomfortable with dating, and he has a lot to learn about himself and others. It's not as if there's no time, or as if he has to date or as if he's going to be "forever alone" if he doesn't ask out a lot of girls. Which is a bad motivation to ask someone out anyway; would you go out with someone who just wants a warm body next to them and fakes interest as a means to an end, if you could actually hang with people who are interested in you as a person?
Clinton was always angry before when Claire has meddled. He just didn't say anything because it worked out or he was distracted by something else. This time it didn't and so he finally said what he wanted to say before.
Also, "gendered insults" seriously? As if it matters what "gender" an insult has. This is just getting ridiculous.
Doesn't it make sense a priori that there's something insulting to women in general about, say, calling someone a "cunt"? Isn't that at least plausible? The moderators have heard from women we trust that things like that make them feel less welcome, and inclusiveness is a core value here.
Could a misogynistic hurled at Claire be interpreted as trans accepting?If you want to, I suppose, but the person using the insult would have to know Claire is trans. Either way, I'd be far more inclined to focus on the misogyny.
"Trans Inclusive Misogyny. From the makers of TERF!"
Edit: Also, he's 21. He's still figuring everything out - he might be a late bloomer, just as his sister. As far as we know, Claire only started dating when she was 24, and that is because Marten made the first move. He is clearly uncomfortable with dating, and he has a lot to learn about himself and others. It's not as if there's no time, or as if he has to date or as if he's going to be "forever alone" if he doesn't ask out a lot of girls. Which is a bad motivation to ask someone out anyway; would you go out with someone who just wants a warm body next to them and fakes interest as a means to an end, if you could actually hang with people who are interested in you as a person?
I agreed with the rest of your post, but had to disagree somewhat with this part. Yes Clinton is young, and yes, he's quite inexperienced in the dating arena; but this is precisely why he needs to get out there and start dating soon as possible. He has many mistakes to get out of the way; choosing the wrong women, saying or doing the wrong things, not saying or doing the right things. These mistakes will likely cost him the woman he makes those mistakes with, just as his hesitancy in asking for the second date cost him Emily.
He might as well get those mistakes out of the way now while he's young, single and has relatively little to lose. Along the way, he'll also need to develop a thick skin for rejection, since that is mainly the man's burden to bear in the dating arena, and someone like Clinton is going to get rejected rather often. Sucks, but that's the way it is since the majority of men are never going to be asked out by a woman, they will always have to do the asking. If Clinton ultimately wants fenale romantic companionship (and his efforts with Emily show that he does), then he's going to have to get out there, start making mistakes, and hopefully learning from them. Romantic companionship seldom falls into a man's lap, especially a man like Clinton.
He might as well get those mistakes out of the way now while he's young, single and has relatively little to lose. Along the way, he'll also need to develop a thick skin for rejection, since that is mainly the man's burden to bear in the dating arena, and someone like Clinton is going to get rejected rather often. Sucks, but that's the way it is since the majority of men are never going to be asked out by a woman, they will always have to do the asking. If Clinton ultimately wants fenale romantic companionship (and his efforts with Emily show that he does), then he's going to have to get out there, start making mistakes, and hopefully learning from them. Romantic companionship seldom falls into a man's lap, especially a man like Clinton.
And Clinton was the one that went along with it, in the end, he didn't HAVE to ask her out again.
(Also, "asshole"? I've never heard guys use that against girls--is Clinton misgendering her?)he's not Mary (http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/wrong-2/)
My final thought on this was that at the very beginning Clin-ton very specifically *did* ask for outside input on his dating life: "I'll let you date my sister if you help set me up with someone" (paraphrased but that was essentially the gist of it). But I do also agree that Claire was being at least a little interfering.And they *did* help set him up with Claire. What he didn't ask for help with was continuing the relationship without his knowledge, desire, or consent. If you ask for my help moving to a new house, you're still going to be understandably pissed off if I show up a month later and start rearranging your furniture.
[romantic comedies]and yet I absolutely love writing and drawing oneI'm sure Jeph has learned this one as a musician too. You may not necessarily much like listening to what you really like playing. Which is why there are (or were when I went to see such bands) very few audience members as old as the band at metal gigs. That stuff can be great fun to play even if you don't much enjoy listening to it any more.
I sincerely hope that all the people who seemed to be trying their best yesterday to paint Claire as a manipulative, thoughtless person take a good look at today's strip and realize that it wasn't intentional manipulation on her part.I think Claire acted in a thoughtless and manipulative way. She's now upset because her scheme turned out badly, and her brother is angry with her when she though she was acting in his best interests, but that does not really say anything to deny that she acted with intention. On the contrary, she says: "I was just trying to help!" which makes it pretty clear that she acted intentionally in manipulating Clinton into a meeting with Emily. I'm quite sure she did not have ill intent, which would obviously be worse, but unfortunately intent, however good, is not magic, or a get-out-of-jail-free card.
I sincerely hope that all the people who seemed to be trying their best yesterday to paint Claire as a manipulative, thoughtless person take a good look at today's strip and realize that it wasn't intentional manipulation on her part.
I sincerely hope that all the people who seemed to be trying their best yesterday to paint Claire as a manipulative, thoughtless person take a good look at today's strip and realize that it wasn't intentional manipulation on her part.
[...]but that, when he criticised her (it was kindly but it was still a very blunt criticism), she didn't pull away but instead went back to the hug. She trusts Marten enough to believe that it was to help, not a personal attack on her. IMO, that's a good sign of a very healthy relationship.
I read so many posts that just reeked of accusatory statements about how Claire is a manipulator and ALWAYZ DUZ THIS and she's NO GOOD WITH BOUNDARIES, and not one of them ever seemed to take into consideration the fact that Claire not only thought she was doing the right thing, she's as socially inept as Clinton is!
Dude. Marten was honest about the situation! Hallelujah! Real character growth there since his relationship with Dora.
I read so many posts that just reeked of ...It's astounding, but there really is evidence in the fossil record that something other than "my projection = objective reality" actually can follow that specific introduction. Some researchers even claim that in the immediate aftermath of the great Tunguska Extinction Event of 1908 ...
Maybe we could just all stop trying to find the one singular bad guy in all of this? Life is never that simple, no matter how much people want to reduce problems to one singular cause.
I'm half surprised no one has tried to blame Marten, Faye or Dora for this yet...
I'm half surprised no one has tried to blame Marten, Faye or Dora for this yet...
Well it's clearly Dora's fault for giving Emily too many hours so she doesn't have time out of school/work for other activities ie. dating.
We know from previous strips that Clinton cares for Claire and is protective of her, and we know that Claire cares for Clinton. They'll get through this, and with luck have a more adult relationship as a result. Kudos to Jeph for creating great characters to whom we can relate so strongly.
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Also: given Emily's lack of any skills at pretense, I don't think she was trying to reject Clinton because she doesn't like him. I think she really is that busy.
On a lighter note, snuffly Claire makes her nose ring look like a huge booger is hanging from her nose.
Well, it looks like skarnet called it! In fact, they called it with such accuracy that I'm wondering if they're actually Jeph l :wink:
I'm half surprised no one has tried to blame Marten, Faye or Dora for this yet...
Well it's clearly Dora's fault for giving Emily too many hours so she doesn't have time out of school/work for other activities ie. dating.
And it's obviously Faye's fault because Emily was hired to fill the void created when Faye got fired!
I'm half surprised no one has tried to blame Marten, Faye or Dora for this yet...
Well it's clearly Dora's fault for giving Emily too many hours so she doesn't have time out of school/work for other activities ie. dating.
And it's obviously Faye's fault because Emily was hired to fill the void created when Faye got fired!
You fools, 'tis clearly Angus' fault, for seeking a job in New York, leaving Faye behind to drink herself into oblivion and unemployment, which lead to Dora hiring Emily.
It all goes back to the Big Bang. If the Big hadn't Banged, none of this would have happened. Literally.
The Big Bang? Isn't *that* what the Large Hardon Collider is supposed to duplicate?
Why do I get the strange feeling this might lead to romance even though it is probably just going to be him working through his problems in a drunken stupor.
Well I don't know about Massachusetts, but any bar in Wisconsin will serve you water at no charge without any backtalk.
Designated drivers being somewhat helpful, after all.
Well I don't know about Massachusetts, but any bar in Wisconsin will serve you water at no charge without any backtalk.
Designated drivers being somewhat helpful, after all.
Hell, if I went into a bar, asked for water, and got treated like that, my next phone call would be to the Tavern League.
Only so many liquor licenses to go around, and it's a long wait list.
Liquor licenses are a notorious pain in the ass here, but I doubt you could get one revoked over a thing like that.
Designated drivers are fine, but if you're alone, at least if you're a young man, you'd better be buying something.
The Big Bang? Isn't *that* what the Large Hardon Collider is supposed to duplicate?
Why do I get the strange feeling this might lead to romance even though it is probably just going to be him working through his problems in a drunken stupor.
Licensed premises in Australia are legally obliged to serve drinking water to anyone who requests it, either free or at a reasonable cost. It's a part of the Responsible Service of Alcohol laws.I've ordered non-alcoholic drinks in bars in the USA too, so yes, this comic seemed strange. The is the bar of compulsory alcohol, apparently.
Isn't there a law against this? Where I live, it's illegal for bars not to offer non-alcoholics, and also at least one non-alcoholic drink has to be cheaper than the cheapest alcoholic one.
Well, maybe Jeph didn't have any other justification for Clinton to get drunk except a very, very weird bartender.
Well, maybe Jeph didn't have any other justification for Clinton to get drunk except a very, very weird bartender.
Could be smth. as simple as pointing out how policies like the one portrayed affect people trying to stay dry ... if the local bars in your place of residence refuse to serve non-alcoholic drinks, a lot of the resident night-life becomes off-limits.
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Liquor licenses are a notorious pain in the ass here, but I doubt you could get one revoked over a thing like that.
Well, maybe Jeph didn't have any other justification for Clinton to get drunk except a very, very weird bartender.
Could be smth. as simple as pointing out how policies like the one portrayed affect people trying to stay dry ... if the local bars in your place of residence refuse to serve non-alcoholic drinks, a lot of the resident night-life becomes off-limits.
Could be, but that would be.. a weird, non-existing problem. No bar would have such a policy (for all the reasons mentioned). People trying to stay dry have a lot of other problems (peer pressure, temptation, dealing with drunk people, paying 3$ for a small glass of soda) but being refused water is not one of them.
I could see her being a little baffled and irritated if Clinton only ordered a water, in the vein of "...so, you can't get a bottle from a convenience store because...?" You have to admit, alcohol is usually the first, second and third reason people show up to bars.
Her insistence that he has to buy a drink is weird, though. Maybe they give out water for free and she's irritated that he's taking up space from tipping/paying customers?
This comic was very strange for me to read.
Licensed premises in Australia are legally obliged to serve drinking water to anyone who requests it, either free or at a reasonable cost. It's a part of the Responsible Service of Alcohol laws.
This comic was very strange for me to read.
Licensed premises in Australia are legally obliged to serve drinking water to anyone who requests it, either free or at a reasonable cost. It's a part of the Responsible Service of Alcohol laws.
Manipulated again, Clinton ...
Well, here's a point. It may not be anything to do with laws or the bar's policy. It may just be frustration on the bartender's fault. Clinton is just waiting on the bus. Which means that the area where the buses stop probably doesn't have a waiting area of it's own, or one that is uncomfortable. And the bar is probably the closest place where you can sit down in comfort. So she probably has a lot of people just coming down and squatting until their boss shows up. Would you like it if your work had an issue day after day of people just coming in, hanging out and never buying anything?
On a different note, could this be Sam's mom? If so, I think we can piece together why she and Jim aren't still married from her lovely personality here.
Your faction may be entrenched, but my side is above ground in a friggin' castle!There's a reason we stopped using castles. Explosives make it quite easy to destroy vertical things. Horizontal things or things dug into the ground? Not so much.
Yeah, that's me. Being the sensible, logical one again. I'll get my hat and show myself out...
A little late to this topic, but the only bar I know of where the bartender hassles people for not ordering alcohol was in "It's a Wonderful Life."This actually reminded me of Coyote Ugly, so Clinton is actually lucky he didn't get doused in water.
Hell, no H2O!
I was actually baffled enough at the comic that I registered just to comment (hi, everyone!)It's probably a dive that doesn't really care about the local law. I have been to plenty of bars where they didn't even care if one smoked inside, despite it being illegal in my state since '98. All it takes on top of that is one surly bartender and I can see this happening.
Judging from the responses above mine, I'm not the only person who found the comic a bit strange... I don't know if it's different in America, but I have never seen a bar that didn't offer at least a few non-alcoholic drinks (and some snacks).
If nothing else, I know very few people who drink vodka (and vodka is a pretty popular drink in my country) without any sort of chaser. In fact, the fact that I don't bother with chasers leads, more often than not, to people giving me funny looksActually, I got a round of Grey Goose for a friend and some people she knew for her birthday and when they all wanted a chaser, I would have at least teased them if it weren't for the occasion. I blame it on them being inexperienced drinkers, though. Living in a university town now compared to a major city, I do see fewer people drinking their booze neat (usually only the regulars at the sole remaining working class bar actually eschew a chaser). It seems as though many at that age want the effect and not the taste.
The Big Bang? Isn't *that* what the Large Hardon Collider is supposed to duplicate?
The LHC creates a Very Small Parping Sound. Think "cosmic fart in an elevator".
Dismiss all you want people defending her by saying that she didn't realise she was doing the wrong thing, but you know what? No-one else here realised, either.
Well I don't know about Massachusetts, but any bar in Wisconsin will serve you water at no charge without any backtalk.
Designated drivers being somewhat helpful, after all.
Hell, if I went into a bar, asked for water, and got treated like that, my next phone call would be to the Tavern League.
Only so many liquor licenses to go around, and it's a long wait list.
We are not entrenched. We are heavily fortified. There's a difference. Trenches are dug into the ground. Your faction may be entrenched, but my side is above ground in a friggin' castle!
Wait, which side am I on again anyway? :?
Wrt. to US law - I'm trying to make it a habit to not assume anything about US legal standards, especially when it comes to state-, or communal legislation. It's too easy to project my central european cultural experience onto a culture that looks similar, but didn't develop in the same way.I think that's an even bigger problem for foreigners from other English-speaking, ex-British countries. In some ways, the USA is so familiar, particularly because of the ubiquity of its pop-culture products, and then you stumble over something that reminds you just how very foreign it is.
Always weird finding an Australian out in the wild, isn't it?There are at least four of us active in this forum. :)
That's a painting; there's no place like this on Earth. The universe is (probably) infinite, though, so, somewhere out there, this place exists. Probably not near you, though.
Always weird finding an Australian out in the wild, isn't it?There are at least four of us active in this forum. :)
That's a painting; there's no place like this on Earth. The universe is (probably) infinite, though, so, somewhere out there, this place exists. Probably not near you, though.
Based on the Big Bang, the universe is finite.That isn't how it works. The Big Bang occurred everywhere in the universe, when all matter was condensed into a singularity and began expanding suddenly and quickly. It is conceivable that some area of the universe may be largely without matter in it (we've found such an area), but, as far as we can tell, the universe is infinite and expanding.
Well, that stands to reason, as my current living area is boring, and there is a lack of large water. And castles.
Ĉi tiu. estas. trinkejo. Ni. servas. bieron. kaj. likvoron.Clinton: Mi ne parolas Esperanton.
The WCDT could always group into entrenched factions over whether the WCDT groups into entrenched factions -- with a superheated sub-discussion over whether the focus on trees is "arborist."
The WCDT could always group into entrenched factions over whether the WCDT groups into entrenched factions -- with a superheated sub-discussion over whether the focus on trees is "arborist."
"Human subcultures are nested fractally. There is no bottom." https://xkcd.com/1095/
That building on the edge of a waterfall looks more like a cathedral than a castle.
Is that a painting or a real place? I wish to read about it. And perhaps hang it on my wall.
... so, somewhere out there, this place exists. Probably not near you, though.And, sadly, thanks to erosion, not for very long. But its fun to imagine that when the first structure was built that was an island well back from the falls. Historically the Niagara falls was 5 feet a year (http://www.niagarafallsinfo.com/history-item.php?entry_id=1268¤t_category_id=152), so I reckon some of those viaduct arches only have 10 years or so.
Well, that stands to reason, as my current living area is boring, and there is a lack of large water. And castles.
Based on the Big Bang, the universe is finite.That isn't how it works. The Big Bang occurred everywhere in the universe, when all matter was condensed into a singularity and began expanding suddenly and quickly. It is conceivable that some area of the universe may be largely without matter in it (we've found such an area), but, as far as we can tell, the universe is infinite and expanding.
It is really hard to explain adequately and in a comprehensible way.
If nothing else, I know very few people who drink vodka (and vodka is a pretty popular drink in my country) without any sort of chaser. In fact, the fact that I don't bother with chasers leads, more often than not, to people giving me funny looks
Actually, I got a round of Grey Goose for a friend and some people she knew for her birthday and when they all wanted a chaser, I would have at least teased them if it weren't for the occasion. I blame it on them being inexperienced drinkers, though. Living in a university town now compared to a major city, I do see fewer people drinking their booze neat (usually only the regulars at the sole remaining working class bar actually eschew a chaser). It seems as though many at that age want the effect and not the taste.
That building on the edge of a waterfall looks more like a cathedral than a castle.
Yup, that's Cathédrale Notre-Dame-de-l'Assomption de Clermont-Ferrand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clermont-Ferrand_Cathedral) in the Auvergne region of France.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Facade_cathedrale_clermont-ferrand.jpg/220px-Facade_cathedrale_clermont-ferrand.jpg)
There is no outside the universe. The universe is literally everything.
There is no outside the universe. The universe is literally everything.
That building on the edge of a waterfall looks more like a cathedral than a castle.
Yup, that's Cathédrale Notre-Dame-de-l'Assomption de Clermont-Ferrand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clermont-Ferrand_Cathedral) in the Auvergne region of France.
It may have been inspired by the Clermont-Ferrand cathedral, but it isn't actually that cathedral (or a copy). The picture on that wikipedia page shows it only has two towers -- the one on the waterfall has four or five.
Thank you! It's nice to see the full image, and I appreciate your restoring the artist's information, too.There is no outside the universe. The universe is literally everything.
Then what is the expanding universe expanding into?
That's actually kind of a strange question; the universe contains everything there is, including the space-time we use to define "volume" amongst many other things. We can talk about observable changes in the interior volume but even the concept of it having an exterior volume is contradictory to what we know.There is no outside the universe. The universe is literally everything.
Then what is the expanding universe expanding into?
Straight vodka tastes like rubbing alcohol smells.* :grumpypuss: I don't want a chaser with my vodka, I want a mixer. Preferably something that can hide the taste of the vodka, like orange juice, tomato juice, or cranberry juice.
And don't try to tell me that good vodka has no taste. I am one of the small minority who can taste alcohol... which is probably the reason I never developed a liking for alcohol.
Then what is the expanding universe expanding into?Itself. The Universe, by definition, cannot get larger or smaller. Everything in it is merely getting farther apart, though not by moving in the traditional sense. There's just more spacetime between things.
I still can't believe how unbelievably shitty that bartender is.You deal with the damn public day after day, idiot after idiot, it doesn't matter how calm, measured, placid and professional you are, sooner or later someone will catch you with the wrong words at the wrong time and you'll find yourself saying something you wouldn't normally.
Uh, no. She had that shotgun ready at hand. Clinton didn't say 'The wrong words', he barely said anything at all. In fact, all he did was try to order water and then brood. He's a guy brooding at a bus-stop adjacent bar. If that's seriously what's going to set her off, she's a shitty bartender indeed.I still can't believe how unbelievably shitty that bartender is.You deal with the damn public day after day, idiot after idiot, it doesn't matter how calm, measured, placid and professional you are, sooner or later someone will catch you with the wrong words at the wrong time and you'll find yourself saying something you wouldn't normally.
the text referring to a nautical theme would make no sense with a gun.
Maybe you need to refresh (I don't know if he put the other version up, though) - it's clearly not a gun, and the text referring to a nautical theme would make no sense with a gun.There were uploading issues. For the first couple of hours after going live, the website had her holding a shotgun, (And the punchline was different,) and going back found that Dolphin Jack had been replaced by the harpoon version. Then, both comics became harpoon version, and since that it's been fixed so that Dolphin Jack is back in his rightful place and only the harpoon version is live.
What was the original punchline? I somehow missed it.Clinton stammered something like 'I'll just go' and bartenderlady said 'You shouldn't waste your beer' and cut to close-up of Clinton frantically drinking with a concerned expression.