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Title: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 08 May 2016, 13:45
Multiple options because everyone is allowed to have more than one cool game modding idea.

What about me? Hmm... I've got to say that Zebediah's post-apocalyptic fan-fiction has made me hunger for a Questionable Content/Fallout crossover. Marten Reed - They call him the Lone Wanderer. Come to think of it, I can also see Steve pulling off Courier Six from New Vegas!

I can also see The Sims working out (play QC and its characters your way). Okay, I admit to my inner child-geek here... the idea of Marten and Faye as rival Pokémon trainers appeals to me for some reason I don't quite understand. Naturally, this universe's Pintsize would be a dirty-minded Bulbasaur or something!

Feel free to vote 'other' and let us hear your own ideas!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 May 2016, 13:54
Civilization: Everyone loses to the Vespavenger Empire, after the introduction of the Giant Death Robot.
Pokémon: PINTSIZE used EQUINE MOLESTATION. It's super effective!
Kerbal Space Program: The Ellicott-Chatham space station has blown up again. The only fatality was Jebediah. (He got better.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 08 May 2016, 15:04
One I actually forgot: The Elder Scrolls Series. As Jeph is an AD&D fan, why not have the characters in a sword & sorcery fighting fantasy world?

FAYE: "Fus Ro Butts!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 08 May 2016, 15:16
Gasaraki

Just for the giant Mechs  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 08 May 2016, 15:30
Minecraft. Someone needs to recreate QC Northampton in Minecraft, complete with CoD, the Horrible Revelation and the Robot Fight Club. And mod it to have anthroPC mobs.

And mod the zombies to look like hipsters, but make no other changes to them. Just because.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2016, 16:38
Confession: my first reaction was "wait, you want to put me in a video game?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: DSL on 08 May 2016, 17:32
Pac Man, starring Pintsize, chasing porn.
Space Invader (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Asteroids (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Donkey Kong, in which Marten may or may not set and/or pursue a goal, facing obstacles that exist mainly in his mind.
Lunar Lander (Pizza Re-entry Vehicle)
Punch-out!, featuring the Robot Fight Club.


Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: War Sparrow on 08 May 2016, 17:47
Confession: my first reaction was "wait, you want to put me in a video game?"

Crusader Kings II, obviously.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 08 May 2016, 17:48
Neverwinter Nights - don't ask where the Hamster hides, it is secret kept between hamsters and their Ranger brethren.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 08 May 2016, 17:49
Confession: my first reaction was "wait, you want to put me in a video game?"

Crusader Kings II, obviously.
I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 08 May 2016, 18:17
Pac Man, starring Pintsize, chasing porn.
Space Invader (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Asteroids (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Donkey Kong, in which Marten may or may not set and/or pursue a goal, facing obstacles that exist mainly in his mind.
Lunar Lander (Pizza Re-entry Vehicle)
Punch-out!, featuring the Robot Fight Club.

I figured Space Invaders would be pizzas that need ordering.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 08 May 2016, 19:19
Pac Man, starring Pintsize, chasing porn.
Space Invader (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Asteroids (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Donkey Kong, in which Marten may or may not set and/or pursue a goal, facing obstacles that exist mainly in his mind.
Lunar Lander (Pizza Re-entry Vehicle)
Punch-out!, featuring the Robot Fight Club.
Can....can you hear us back there in the 1980s?

I want to see a survival horror in the vein of Amnesia, where Jeph has to complete a comic, all while trying to avoid WCDTs. The DLC can be Marten trying to get through the day and avoiding Pintsize and his shenanigans.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: celticgeek on 08 May 2016, 19:57
Oh, shit!  My bus just left also!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 08 May 2016, 20:03
Comic 3216: Jeph Effectively Just Parrots Both Sides of Reader Discussion to Keep the Peace
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 08 May 2016, 20:23
Harmless?  Did you see that robot hand?  He could probably crush a grape with it!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 08 May 2016, 20:33
Let's be honest here: If such a minor delay was going to make Clinton miss his bus, he was never going to make it in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 08 May 2016, 21:10
Harmless?  Did you see that robot hand?  He could probably crush a grape with it!
Perhaps she speaks with a dialect that doesn't pronounce the letter H at the beginning of words?  :clairedoge:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 May 2016, 21:56
a) Why is Barry her gauge of "OK"ness? 

b) Can I start calling her "Queequeg" until further notice?   :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 08 May 2016, 21:58
Grand Theft Auto: Academic City
With
Bubbles as an enforcer
Hannelore as Evil Genius
Jim as Capo
Marten as fall guy
COD selling "special sugar" at $25 a straw
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Carl-E on 08 May 2016, 22:05
Pac Man, starring Pintsize, chasing porn.
Space Invader (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Asteroids (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Donkey Kong, in which Marten may or may not set and/or pursue a goal, facing obstacles that exist mainly in his mind.
Lunar Lander (Pizza Re-entry Vehicle)
Punch-out!, featuring the Robot Fight Club.

I figured Space Invaders would be pizzas that need ordering.

I'm with ya, DSL.  Played all those in arcade form - Asteroids was my game. 

Now get off my lawn, Mustang172! 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 08 May 2016, 23:14
I wonder just how long Clinton has been meditating aloud about his situation vis Claire, unaware of Barry's unsettling stare or the passage of time? FWIW, the likelihood that he's going to stay overnight in Northampton and that something is going to happen as a result has increased significantly.

I agree with Jeph; that does look like a cuckoo clock!

Let's be honest here: If such a minor delay was going to make Clinton miss his bus, he was never going to make it in the first place.

My guess is that the bar is adjacent to the bus station. Bar Lady probably plans her day based on the bus schedule, given that she can see the comings and goings through the windows! We also don't know how long Clinton has been sitting there, musing aloud!

a) Why is Barry her gauge of "OK"ness? 

Because anyone who can tolerate Barry's close presence has to be a nice person... or deeply unconscious!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 09 May 2016, 00:33
I'd recomend Dragonball Z, but that'd only lengthen the storylines in the Comic.  :-D


And Barry worries me
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 09 May 2016, 00:53
Quick! Fire the harpoon at the back of the bus and hold on to the rope for dear life.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 09 May 2016, 01:13
You need roller skates or a skateboard for that one to work properly.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mad hands murphy on 09 May 2016, 01:16
if someone manipulated me into some shit that ended up working out for me i'd still be a little pissed at the manipulation imho

not as pissed as if it had completely blown up in my face, but still

also: someone whose manipulations blow up in their targets' faces deserves more shit than someone whose manipulations work out okay

like, you shouldn't be manipulating people regardless, but you especially shouldn't be manipulating people if you're bad at it
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: ihaveavoice on 09 May 2016, 03:32
HOLY SHIT BARRY

I HAVE CONCERNS

 :psyduck: :psyduck: :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Ysobel on 09 May 2016, 03:43
Shouldn't we see at least a little of Barry's tattoo from this perspective? - I'd like to identify the motive --
I thought I could make out a dolphin (of course) in #3213 and something unidentifiable above it -
spout? bird?

Also: have we discussed already, if Barry's character is played for laughs in an uncomfortable way?
As of yet, I feel he is still written non-offendingly and sympathetic, but - does everybody see it that way?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Case on 09 May 2016, 05:02
Pac Man, starring Pintsize, chasing porn.
Space Invader (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Asteroids (germs), battled by Hannelore.
Donkey Kong, in which Marten may or may not set and/or pursue a goal, facing obstacles that exist mainly in his mind.
Lunar Lander (Pizza Re-entry Vehicle)
Punch-out!, featuring the Robot Fight Club.
Can....can you hear us back there in the 1980s?



GET!
OFF!
OUR!
LAAAAAAWWWWN!!!

Better now?

What? Oh, right ...
MOM SAYS NOT TO FORGET DRESSING WARM ENOUGH!!!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 09 May 2016, 13:27
I wonder just how long Clinton has been meditating aloud about his situation vis Claire, unaware of Barry's unsettling stare or the passage of time? FWIW, the likelihood that he's going to stay overnight in Northampton and that something is going to happen as a result has increased significantly.

I agree with Jeph; that does look like a cuckoo clock!

Let's be honest here: If such a minor delay was going to make Clinton miss his bus, he was never going to make it in the first place.

My guess is that the bar is adjacent to the bus station. Bar Lady probably plans her day based on the bus schedule, given that she can see the comings and goings through the windows! We also don't know how long Clinton has been sitting there, musing aloud!
It's possible that Jeph just failed to include a transition, but seeing as Bar Lady is doing something with the same mixer as she was last comic, and Clinton's glass hasn't moved and is just as full, it's unlikely.
Now, there WAS a very small transition between Thursday and Friday's comic, but if he missed his bus then, it seems weird that Bar Lady didn't say something sooner.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 09 May 2016, 13:44
It's not strange at all. She is a busy woman with a bar full of customers to deal with. It isn't her problem if Clinton is so busy thinking about his relationship with Claire that he didn't watch the time when he's supposed to get his bus.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 09 May 2016, 13:54
It's not strange at all. She is a busy woman with a bar full of customers to deal with. It isn't her problem if Clinton is so busy thinking about his relationship with Claire that he didn't watch the time when he's supposed to get his bus.
I... I just went back to reread the comic.
*She watches the bus drive away through the window* in the first few panels.

My point, though, was that if she saw the bus two comics ago, she would have said something two comics ago. It's a little moot now, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 09 May 2016, 16:57
No, you notice when you finally see her in the second panel she's busily concentrating on mixing a drink and only notices the bus in the third panel when she turns around but by then though the bus is moving off.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 May 2016, 17:45
Given how some bus drivers are, I wouldn't be surprised if the driver just ignored it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 09 May 2016, 17:57
Minecraft. Someone needs to recreate QC Northampton in Minecraft, complete with CoD, the Horrible Revelation and the Robot Fight Club. And mod it to have anthroPC mobs.

And mod the zombies to look like hipsters, but make no other changes to them. Just because.  :-D

Are you aware that there's going to be a Mario resource pack from Microsoft?

If the beerista had wanted to get rid of Clinton she surely would have told him his bus had arrived. Instead she gets him to hang around a bit longer. Time enough to get better acquainted... I wonder when she gets off work?
Clinton, call a cab!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 09 May 2016, 19:39
Text an apology?  If you were really sorry, you'd make a phone call.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 09 May 2016, 19:44
Better to start the conversation with text, then move to a call or face to face conversation if needed.  As impersonal as texting is, unlike a phone, it isn't rudely demanding one's attention RIGHT FUCKING NOW![1]

[1]I hate phone calls, obviously unless they are expected.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 09 May 2016, 19:47
Potentially cutest Claire ever in today's strip                                                                                                                if it weren't for the awful piercing and ear plugs anyway x:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 09 May 2016, 20:03
Text an apology?  If you were really sorry, you'd make a phone call.

Given how angry Clinton was when he and Claire last spoke, do you think Claire would want to suffer an ear-bashing? A text is safer in this instance, you can think about what you're going to say and not get flustered or step over your own toes.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Persephiroth on 09 May 2016, 20:20
Sooo, it kind of bothers me just how cis-adjacent Claire is. Like, she's fucking adorable, indistinguishable in entirety from a cis-woman, and her transition doesn't seem to have been aided by surgery at all thus far.

Like, yeah, some of us are that lucky, but most all positive portrayals of trans people in the media involve those who can represent themselves as cis, even if they aren't. It bugs me, a bit, even though I really like her character.

Also her piercings rock.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Rghfrgl on 09 May 2016, 20:24
It looks like we missed the best part.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 09 May 2016, 20:26
Text an apology?  If you were really sorry, you'd make a phone call.

So, you really read today's comic, and concluded from her obvious distress in the first panel, and Marten's suggestion in the fourth, that she is not really sorry? Is this what you are saying? If you are, may I see the link to the version of the comic you're looking at?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 09 May 2016, 20:30
Text an apology?  If you were really sorry, you'd make a phone call.

So, you really read today's comic, and concluded from her obvious distress in the first panel, and Marten's suggestion in the fourth, that she is not really sorry? Is this what you are saying? If you are, may I see the link to the version of the comic you're looking at?
I think she's actually sorry, but I think a call would be better, or at the very least a text asking to talk.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 09 May 2016, 20:57
Yes I agree, though I think a text asking to talk would be as good or better (arguably better). As others have argued. A call might not even be answered (as far as she knows).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 09 May 2016, 21:07
Text an apology?  If you were really sorry, you'd make a phone call.

So, you really read today's comic, and concluded from her obvious distress in the first panel, and Marten's suggestion in the fourth, that she is not really sorry? Is this what you are saying? If you are, may I see the link to the version of the comic you're looking at?

Texting is Marten's idea.  He's the one phoning it in.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 09 May 2016, 21:13
Nothing say "I'm sorry." like an apology tattoo...because you'll be sorry forever for getting it in the first place.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 09 May 2016, 21:21
I'm kind of in favor of Jeph's third option, both. Tattooed Claire could be interesting and make for interesting strips
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 09 May 2016, 21:26
Sooo, it kind of bothers me just how cis-adjacent Claire is. Like, she's fucking adorable, indistinguishable in entirety from a cis-woman, and her transition doesn't seem to have been aided by surgery at all thus far.

Like, yeah, some of us are that lucky, but most all positive portrayals of trans people in the media involve those who can represent themselves as cis, even if they aren't. It bugs me, a bit, even though I really like her character.

Also her piercings rock.
Based purely on her hair length, we can reasonably assume that she began her transition at least four years ago. (Assuming a growth rate of about half an inch per month.) If I recall, Jeph has said that he's not going to reveal how much (If any) surgery she's had, but I don't think it's implausible that she could have had some work done in that time. Unless I'm going mad, I do remember it being mentioned that she's taking (Or took,) some level of hormone something-or-another. Looking at Clinton, if he had long hair and had been taking estrogen for 4+ years, I think he'd be able to represent himself as a cis woman as well.

Your point about media portrayal is still fair, I just think it's justified in Claire's case.
(This is irrelevant, but I *did* notice that, from her first appearance in comic 2203, she's gotten *Significantly* more adorable. (At least, physically and in my personal opinion.) Chalk this up to Jeph not knowing how to draw her yet.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 09 May 2016, 21:49
I love how Marten knows how to rein Claire in when she gets on a roll like that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 09 May 2016, 23:46
So, it seems to me that Claire generally has trouble working out how to be nice to Clinton. We already know that she has an excellent imagination (in evidence, I present the 'Cyberpunk Librarian' back when she got the septum piercing). However, she does seem to automatically jump to elaborate and complex solutions when simple ones would suffice.

Besides, she's an older sibling. She's got experience in tormenting Clinton, not doing nice things for him! :wink:

I really want Claire and Clinton to get matching tattoos.

You're kidding, right? Too many people mistake them for twins as it is; matching body art would just strengthen the illusion!

Also, is that a nightie?

Yup! Looks like she's staying over tonight!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mvdwege on 09 May 2016, 23:54
I love how Marten knows how to rein Claire in when she gets on a roll like that.
I love how it shows Marten's character development. Claire is passionate and prone to flying off the handle, and Marten obviously has found that his calm personality is fine to use as the rock that grounds her and keeps her from flying off in wild directions.

He has become more accepting of his laid-backness, and as a result is actually showing a bit more assertiveness.

These two are good for each other. They play on each others' strengths very well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 09 May 2016, 23:55
Her garment looks like a dress to me; too fitted (and maybe too plain) for a nighty.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 10 May 2016, 02:46
I think I know where this arc is going. I suspect that the next few strips will be a text conversation between Claire and Clinton with Marten advising Claire on what to say and Bar Lady advising Clinton on what to say. This means that we end up with something of a four-way conversation that, as it's being filtered through the text messaging system, actually turns out to be less confusing than those things are normally.

I'm sort of expecting that the penultimate panel will be Marten and Claire asleep in bed together with the next and last panel being Clinton and Bar Lady in bed together, both staring at each other and wearing startled expressions (sort of: "Wait, what? How the hell did this happen?!?").

Her garment looks like a dress to me; too fitted (and maybe too plain) for a nighty.

I don't know; I've seen women's night-shirts that look a lot like that.

I think that Claire has showered, told Marten that she can't face the rest of the day and that she's going to bed early. Then, instead, she sat down next to him and went back to bemoaning the situation with Clinton. It's times like this that Martin's typical passivity and patience is of great use in this relationship!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 10 May 2016, 03:12
Her garment looks like a dress to me; too fitted (and maybe too plain) for a nighty.

It's hard to gauge the length from how she's sitting, but given the height difference between them, could it possibly be a t-shirt of Marten's?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 10 May 2016, 03:47
Bit too fitted under the chest for that, I'd say.  But I note that although it seems like a continuation of their last shown conversation, and Marten is wearing the same clothes as then, Claire has changed her clothes - which makes it a little harder to reconcile.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Welu on 10 May 2016, 03:51
No half measures from Claire.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: dexeron on 10 May 2016, 05:32
1. I am so happy Barry has been made canon.  This strip needs more Barry.

2. Panel 4 Claireface!!!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 10 May 2016, 06:43
Barry will be the strips own dingamagoo, er I mean Troy McClure.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 May 2016, 06:44
Bit too fitted under the chest for that, I'd say.
Also, I somehow suspect that that particular trope (a woman wearing her boyfriend's shirts) is one that Claire would not particularly want to invoke.

Edit: Relevant TV Tropes links: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SexyShirtSwitch or http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HerBoyfriendsJacket both being relevant in different ways.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Case on 10 May 2016, 07:16
Don't know what I like better - Marten leveling his diplomacy-skills again, or Claire in that gorgeous red dress.

The last panel has some serious "Squeeeeeeeeeee!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Mordhaus on 10 May 2016, 07:51
Ok, she just went from cute to OMG Hawt!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Welu on 10 May 2016, 09:22
I thought it was a nightie too. It's dark outside the bar in the Clinton comics and it feels like time has passed. Really the best tell would be the material type which is hard to portray in a drawing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Rascal on 10 May 2016, 12:09
Tangential comment, but I really dig Claire's current "Disney Ariel" hairstyle in Tuesday's comic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Endellion on 10 May 2016, 13:10
Wouldn't her last suggestion (matching tattoos) make them look even more like creepy twins?

And I kinda like Claire even more when she's got her hair down.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Storel on 10 May 2016, 13:48
It really looks like a nightshirt to me -- my wife has several nightshirts, and Claire's garment could easily be one of them (except that shade of red would clash horribly with my wife's hair).

And yes, I like Claire's hair a lot in this strip.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 10 May 2016, 17:54
Does Claire remind anyone else of Leslie Knope? Excitable, passionate about civics, and now both are apparently really into gift-giving.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: DSL on 10 May 2016, 18:33
She could have the apology tattooed on her! And take a picture of it! With her PHONE! And text Clinton the picture! Great idea, Marten!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 10 May 2016, 19:09
She could have the apology tattooed on her! And take a picture of it! With her PHONE! And text Clinton the picture! Great idea, Marten!

And she could have the picture of the text of the picture of the apology tattoo put onto a shirt and delivered to Clinton! With instructions as to how to put the shirt on!

Okay, serious moment for a second. This might be the pessimist in me, but looking at today's comic and the overall feel of the comic over the past few weeks, I kinda get the feeling that we might be edging towards the first big fight between Marten and Claire. I dunno, in my mind there is just something about this storyline that is going to spark an argument between them. I'm not saying it would be a massive blowout between the two, but still the first fight between them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 10 May 2016, 19:16
Of course there's going to be a fight at some point.  Not much point of making them characters in a story if there won't be drama.  That could take months, maybe years in meatspace time. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 10 May 2016, 20:03
Aaand it ended with the 'Mutual admission of guilt' apology. Darn. Oh well, the execution wasn't that bad, just...

Darn.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 10 May 2016, 20:06
Damn it, Clin-ton!  Stop looking at your phone and have a real conversation with someone.  :-D

EDIT:  On a historical note, it was while declaring himself as fit as a bull moose that Teddy Roosevelt spewed hate jizz in every direction.

EDIT2:  And that's still more mature than the crap you hear in this election.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: DSL on 10 May 2016, 20:37
Barry, it appears, is a man of surprising depths and insight with some interesting (if true) bar stories.

Clin-ton, maybe a little "'Scuse me just a minute while I put your advice into practice real quick."  Make him feel included, y'know. He sort of has a little stake in this, now. A miniscule, uh, very small one.

I wonder, though, does holding the phone in his robot hand give Clin-ton better or worse phone reception? How about Wi-fi?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 10 May 2016, 20:40
I also wondered how well the hand worked with the display, as far as capsense.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 10 May 2016, 20:43
Frankly, this resolution sits just fine with me. To be perfectly honest, the entire fight has felt like a very ham-handed attempt to mix in more drama and character development, so I'm happy to see it brought to a relatively quick and painless conclusion.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 10 May 2016, 20:49
I also wondered how well the hand worked with the display, as far as capsense.
Probably better than with a flesh hand, since capacitive displays work by sensing the polarization of the charge in your finger, and metal is easier to polarize than water.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 10 May 2016, 21:06
Aaand it ended with the 'Mutual admission of guilt' apology. Darn. Oh well, the execution wasn't that bad, just...

Darn.

Isn't the outcome of Claire (aka Jerkbutt) apologising for doing wrong and Clinton apologising for his over-the-top reaction to it precisely how you called it? Don't understand what outcome you were expecting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Carl-E on 10 May 2016, 21:47
Don't worry, I'm sure there's still plenty of room for drahmah. 

After all, Queequeg the barmaid may offer Clinton a ride when she gets off. 




A ride home.  Yeah, that's what I meant.   :angel:







Assuming Barry doesn't beat her to the punch...   :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Mad Cat on 10 May 2016, 21:53
If I NEVER read the text "bull moose fillin' the trunk with hate-jizz" again, it'll be TOO SOON!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 10 May 2016, 22:20
FWIW, most of the new generation of prosthetics is run on encrypted wireless.  To get full articulation you have to read the nerve impulses going to the limb, (and in some of the better ones, there is even e-stim to put sensory feedback signals on the nerves back). This is done with electrical inductance.  But an implant sensor/transmitter with a receiver in the prosthesis is way more reliable and easier to use than those damn wired electrodes, and doesn't require as much battery power = can wear it longer between charges.

Unfortunately, some of these devices have been hacked.  If it's got the wrong firmware for the receiver, somebody could make Clinton spill his drink.  That's much nicer than what somebody could do to people using certain kinds of pacemaker....
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 10 May 2016, 23:06
Today we learn that Barry has an infallible talent in ruining 'moments'. :-P

Oddly enough, I think that the really interesting story is how he lost his left eye. I'm pretty sure that's the reason why his eyes never quite synch up, by the way - one is a glass prosthetic. The way he closed his left eye in today's strip makes me think that it's that one.

It tells you everything that you need to know about Clinton and Claire's relationship that he saved Claire's contact details under 'Jerkbutt'. Something tells me that the development of their emotional relationship stopped when Clinton was about thirteen and has never budged again!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 11 May 2016, 04:20
If I NEVER read the text "bull moose fillin' the trunk with hate-jizz" again, it'll be TOO SOON!
But you had to read it when you typed it! (And once more because I pointed it out, bwahahaha) :parrot:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 11 May 2016, 05:15

Assuming Barry doesn't beat her to the punch...   :roll:

After the story Barry just told, I don't think Clinton would get into Barry's car willingly. What if the moose comes back for another round?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 May 2016, 05:34

Assuming Barry doesn't beat her to the punch...   :roll:

After the story Barry just told, I don't think Clinton would get into Barry's car willingly. What if the moose comes back for another round?

What if he was talking about this afternoon and the trunk is still full?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 11 May 2016, 07:46
Happy to know that in the future of QC smartphones are easily navigable with prosthetic philanges.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: DSL on 11 May 2016, 09:32
I also wondered how well the hand worked with the display, as far as capsense.
Probably better than with a flesh hand, since capacitive displays work by sensing the polarization of the charge in your finger, and metal is easier to polarize than water.

I figured he just had one of those rubber stylus tips built into the end of one of his fingers. (And each of the two Microsoft Surface pen tips, and the iPencil or whatever the hell the ghost of Jobs is calling it, in other fingertips.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 11 May 2016, 09:47
Are we even sure that Robo-hand's exo-shell is metal? There are evidently touch sensors running through the fingertips; wouldn't that imply a plastic material with metal fibres running through it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 11 May 2016, 10:14
Too lazy to archive-binge, but at the lake house it seems to be implied that the hand has quite a bit of exposed metal.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Random832 on 11 May 2016, 10:35
Probably better than with a flesh hand, since capacitive displays work by sensing the polarization of the charge in your finger, and metal is easier to polarize than water.

Sure, but I'd always assumed that they're designed to detect a specific capacitive signature, which is why the styluses you can buy have rubber tips.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 May 2016, 10:42
They do look for something that's about the same size as a finger (so a narrow piece of metal wouldn't work), but a piece of metal  that's the size of a finger would work fine. In fact, just for the hell of it I just tested it with a 1/2" aluminum rod and my cell phone. I'd post a video to prove it, but I'm not sure how to make my cell phone take a video of itself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 11 May 2016, 10:51
which is why the styluses you can buy have rubber tips.

I have a stylus with a hard transparent plastic tip.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 11 May 2016, 11:41
They do look for something that's about the same size as a finger (so a narrow piece of metal wouldn't work), but a piece of metal  that's the size of a finger would work fine. In fact, just for the hell of it I just tested it with a 1/2" aluminum rod and my cell phone. I'd post a video to prove it, but I'm not sure how to make my cell phone take a video of itself.
Oh, that's easy; you just use your other cellphone.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: blt on 11 May 2016, 13:39
Psssst... Barry. Quit looking into the fourth wall.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 11 May 2016, 14:26
I wonder if he can interface his hand with his Smartphone via a WiFi connection if required

Lucid moments are fairly rare with Barry
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: ankhtahr on 11 May 2016, 15:22
Sure, but I'd always assumed that they're designed to detect a specific capacitive signature, which is why the styluses you can buy have rubber tips.

They mostly have rubber tips so people don't scratch their displays. In school I used to operate my smartphone with my closed stainless steel fountain pen. It worked really well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Persephiroth on 11 May 2016, 15:39
Based purely on her hair length, we can reasonably assume that she began her transition at least four years ago. (Assuming a growth rate of about half an inch per month.) If I recall, Jeph has said that he's not going to reveal how much (If any) surgery she's had, but I don't think it's implausible that she could have had some work done in that time. Unless I'm going mad, I do remember it being mentioned that she's taking (Or took,) some level of hormone something-or-another. Looking at Clinton, if he had long hair and had been taking estrogen for 4+ years, I think he'd be able to represent himself as a cis woman as well.

Your point about media portrayal is still fair, I just think it's justified in Claire's case.
(This is irrelevant, but I *did* notice that, from her first appearance in comic 2203, she's gotten *Significantly* more adorable. (At least, physically and in my personal opinion.) Chalk this up to Jeph not knowing how to draw her yet.

Since she's a grad student, unless she has a lot of money from other sources, surgeries are quite unlikely. They're hella expensive (something that upsets me irl). In MA, insurances are required to cover SRS nd breast implants, but they can often weasel out of it by loopholes. So she may have had some done, it isn't entirely impossible. Not that I want to dwell on the surgeries much--too much focus is placed on that with trans folks.

I dunno. I just think that I'd enjoy the portrayal of Marten and Claire's relationship if they had to experience some of the actual hardships of dating a transwoman. The stigma against it, dealing with morning facial hair--the first time a partner sees you without makeup. For a slice of life comic, it seems unrealistic to not include some of it, though that's really Jeph's purview.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 May 2016, 17:20
Bear in mind that many writers tend to keep themselves reined in on certain topics, not because they do not want to or do not respect those who might be connected but because they feel that they might not be able do the topic the justice it deserves. It might be one thing to introduce a character who is trans, but to capture the sense of the daily struggle they go through without making it look like something from an after school special can be quite difficult. I can't speak for Jeph with regards to his story, so who knows.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 11 May 2016, 17:42
... but I'm not sure how to make my cell phone take a video of itself.
Oh, that's easy; you just use your other cellphone.

Or a mirror.
Also Clinton's hand is intended to have a sim-flesh covering.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 11 May 2016, 18:07
In olden times, we used to have a primitive device called a camera. You couldn't use them read online comics or like the latest Facebook meme, but they took pretty good photos and videos.   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 11 May 2016, 18:10
Most of my cameras don't do video.  Only stills.  One even only takes single sheets of film at a time.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 May 2016, 18:11
Oh, yeah, I have a camera. It's right next to my rotary phone and my 8-track player.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 11 May 2016, 18:31
And now you are living in a world where your camera is your rotary phone and your 8-track player.

Sort of.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 May 2016, 19:15
When this came up before, and people were saying the Marten/Claire relationship was running too smoothly, one of the trans people here said in effect "If we can't have this in reality, at least let us enjoy it in fiction".

Global Moderator Comment However tasteful and experience-based, we've found that the only way to maintain a clear welcome for trans forum members is to avoid details of Claire's transition status.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 May 2016, 20:18
It appears the people predicting this becoming a date between Clinton and the Beerista may be right*.


*The prerequisite for a Clinton date being disaster.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 11 May 2016, 20:24
What.

W H A T

CLINTON WHAT DID YOU DO
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 11 May 2016, 20:25
Her hair even changed color.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 11 May 2016, 20:25
Well that escalated quickly.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 May 2016, 20:27
Okay, speculation for the cause of the fire:

Dolphin Jack brought a bison to the bar to jack off. Jacking off bison, of course, is a delicate procedure that must be done by candlelight. Unfortunately, the Beerista had just poured a pint glass of 400-proof Blood God just as the bison achieved climax and kicked over the candle, which ignited the Blood God.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 11 May 2016, 20:28
Well, I can safely say that was the hardest I've ever laughed at a building going up in flames.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 11 May 2016, 20:31
It appears the people predicting this becoming a date between Clinton and the Beerista may be right*.

*The prerequisite for a Clinton date being disaster.
At least he didn't get punched this time.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 May 2016, 20:33
Yet.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 11 May 2016, 20:40
Whoa what just happened!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 11 May 2016, 20:41
wut

I note with interest that Clinton's clothing is tousled but still in place, while Mlle Harpoon is in a blankie. If there'd been an assignation, the proper way to portray it would be Harpoonova in Clinton's shirt. Maybe she's the dom in this setup, and made Clinton "sing for his supper" so to speak. So the two were only halfway through their encounter when the fire started, and thus she was fully disrobed while he was merely disheveled.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 11 May 2016, 20:42
wut

I note with interest that Clinton's clothing is tousled but still in place, while Mlle Harpoon is in a blankie. If there'd been an assignation, the proper way to portray it would be Harpoonova in Clinton's shirt. Maybe she's the dom in this setup, and made Clinton "sing for his supper" so to speak. So the two were only halfway through their encounter when the fire started, and thus she was fully disrobed while he was merely disheveled.

I believe that's a shock blanket. The fire department would have wrapped that around her at some point. I don't think she's disrobed in the slightest.

Her hair even changed color.

I think it just looks like a different shade because of the light of the fire
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 11 May 2016, 20:43
wut

I note with interest that Clinton's clothing is tousled but still in place, while Mlle Harpoon is in a blankie. If there'd been an assignation, the proper way to portray it would be Harpoonova in Clinton's shirt. Maybe she's the dom in this setup, and made Clinton "sing for his supper" so to speak. So the two were only halfway through their encounter when the fire started, and thus she was fully disrobed while he was merely disheveled.
They're still at the bar. Note the bus stop immediately outside the (now burning) bar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 11 May 2016, 20:47
I believe that's a shock blanket. The fire department would have wrapped that around her at some point. I don't think she's disrobed in the slightest.

Then why is Clinton in such disarray? Where are his glasses? Why is the tattoo arm bared and not the other arm?

Whatever happened, nice foreshadowing on Jeph's part with the Titanic/iceberg image.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 11 May 2016, 20:52
I believe that's a shock blanket. The fire department would have wrapped that around her at some point. I don't think she's disrobed in the slightest.

Then why is Clinton in such disarray? Where are his glasses? Why is the tattoo arm bared and not the other arm?

Whatever happened, nice foreshadowing on Jeph's part with the Titanic/iceberg image.

How's about someone tosses you in a building that goes up in flames when you think you're going to have an uneventful evening, and see how put together you look when you make it out into the street!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 11 May 2016, 20:57
I believe that's a shock blanket. The fire department would have wrapped that around her at some point. I don't think she's disrobed in the slightest.

Then why is Clinton in such disarray? Where are his glasses? Why is the tattoo arm bared and not the other arm?

Whatever happened, nice foreshadowing on Jeph's part with the Titanic/iceberg image.

Let's just go with shenanigans and leave it at that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Mordhaus on 11 May 2016, 21:02
When this came up before, and people were saying the Marten/Claire relationship was running too smoothly, one of the trans people here said in effect "If we can't have this in reality, at least let us enjoy it in fiction".


However tasteful and experience-based, we've found that the only way to maintain a clear welcome for trans forum members is to avoid details of Claire's transition status.


We are talking about an alternate Earth with full AI, Nanotech, Bio-mod creatures that can fly and have cloaking, fully movable robot bodies and hands, as well as any number of other scientific breakthroughs that we have no comparison to. People complaining about how far a girl has come in the transgender process is a bit presumptive when you factor all that in. I mean, it is entirely likely that she has used some of that science (which seems to be readily available for minimal cost,barring AI frames) to modify herself as much (or as little) as she wants. It's kind of like the people moaning about capacitive-touch with Cllinton's robot hand and his phone, seriously...ROBOT HAND with full motion, I think we can assume the minor issue of his hand being recognized by his smartphone is a bit 'under the bridge' at this point.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: SomeCanadianWeirdo on 11 May 2016, 21:03
Will this be the last we see of Eyebrows Lady?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 11 May 2016, 21:06
wut

I note with interest that Clinton's clothing is tousled but still in place, while Mlle Harpoon is in a blankie. If there'd been an assignation, the proper way to portray it would be Harpoonova in Clinton's shirt. Maybe she's the dom in this setup, and made Clinton "sing for his supper" so to speak. So the two were only halfway through their encounter when the fire started, and thus she was fully disrobed while he was merely disheveled.

wut
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: wlewisiii on 11 May 2016, 21:07
Most of my cameras don't do video.  Only stills.  One even only takes single sheets of film at a time.

I really need to get out my 4x5 again...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 11 May 2016, 21:15
Whoa what just happened!?!?!?!?!

That's what happens when you don't serve water.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 11 May 2016, 21:17
Whoa what just happened!?!?!?!?!

I second this, and I would be both amused and annoyed if Jeph never actually explains it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 11 May 2016, 21:20
I really need to get out my 4x5 again...

They are pretty awesome.  Even though mine doesn't have all the movements (it's a speedgraphic), it's amazing to be able to shoot 4x5 hand-held.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: wlewisiii on 11 May 2016, 21:28
I really need to get out my 4x5 again...

They are pretty awesome.  Even though mine doesn't have all the movements (it's a speedgraphic), it's amazing to be able to shoot 4x5 hand-held.

Mine is a Speed Graphic as well,  though I hacked the front standard to gain full movements on that.  Of course I usually run into shots that could use rear movements instead...

Fun stuff that digital can't quite do yet, especially with my 1912 Bausch & Loumb 5x7 f/6.3 Tessar mounted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Magniras on 11 May 2016, 21:50
God DAMN IT Barry.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 11 May 2016, 22:31
God DAMN IT Barry.

It must have been Barry, right?

And I'm calling it now: considering how Marten and Faye met, Clinton and Barlady will become roommates.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 11 May 2016, 23:00
If that wasn't bad enough I think Clinton missed the bus again. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: St.Clair on 11 May 2016, 23:12
hahahahahahohshit.   :laugh:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 11 May 2016, 23:24
That was unexpected.

I've been missing out on like buttons? Really?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 11 May 2016, 23:28
Wait... what?!?

Okay, I'm not going to jump the gun or anything. We know nothing about this situation or how the fire started. However, given that it followed Clinton wishing for an uneventful evening, we can safely come to two conclusions:
I've got a feeling that the butterfly effect is now underway. Barlady is on the path to becoming someone's roomie, a barrista at CoD and a regular cast member.

Will she end up with Clinton? Who knows? She is still largely an unknown quantity. I do feel safe in predicting that Clinton will feel responsible for her (irrespective of his actual level of culpability for the fire) and may appoint himself her protector/agent.

Then why is Clinton in such disarray? Where are his glasses? Why is the tattoo arm bared and not the other arm?

Whatever happened, nice foreshadowing on Jeph's part with the Titanic/iceberg image.

Being close to ground zero at a sudden and intense fire (and I sense a short-out in the beer pumps) is not conducive to sartorial elegance. Barlady may have even been caught in the initial flare-up, given the shock blanket!

Possibile Future Line:
BARLADY: "You risked your life to save me. I owe you."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Dust on 12 May 2016, 01:22
Damn, Barry; that moose really wanted payback. On the bright side, Clinton won't have to pay for a ride home - if the local constabulary give lifts, that is.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: blt on 12 May 2016, 02:57
Respirator, or AI chassis in the last panel do you think?  I know we've seen human firefighters multiple times prior to this, but now that AI are more at the forefront, I find it hard to imagine that a world with human shaped warbots doesn't also have purpose built AI chassis for walking into fires to pull people out.

We can save the squishier firefighters for pulling Raven out of vents or looking good for Hanners (speaking of where has she been recently?).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 May 2016, 03:06
Huh, never thought of that.

Especially with the hardened AI drives, even in the case of a complete chassis failure, it's more likely that an AI would survive firefighting duties.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Persephiroth on 12 May 2016, 03:30
When this came up before, and people were saying the Marten/Claire relationship was running too smoothly, one of the trans people here said in effect "If we can't have this in reality, at least let us enjoy it in fiction".


However tasteful and experience-based, we've found that the only way to maintain a clear welcome for trans forum members is to avoid details of Claire's transition status.


It's not that the relationship itself shouldn't go smoothly. It's that regardless of how alright Marten is with the transition, they would still deal with aspects a typical cis-hetero couple would not. To erase that, coupled with Claire's portrayal as "pretty and passable", makes it a bit unrealistic to me. There are more things to do with a transition than dealing with genitals. I, personally, have had less problems with that aspect than anything else.

I appreciate "let us enjoy it in fiction", but I also don't think it's good to set a precedent of "to be happy, a trans woman must be X, Y, and Z", you know? Some might say that I should just be happy there is a transwoman in a relationship in the comic, and I am, but that doesn't mean I cannot criticize the portrayal. I do like Claire, and I like their relationship, but even so, the things I said are valid.

I also make this point as a transwoman who is pretty cis-adjacent herself.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 12 May 2016, 03:37
However, when there are many possibilities, and a writer has to decide on one (for whatever reason), there will always be people who would have preferred something different.  Enough people have appreciated Jeph's approach of not making Claire's status visually obvious to validate his choice in this instance.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Persephiroth on 12 May 2016, 03:42
It doesn't necessarily need to be visually obvious. There are plenty of aspects to making a transition realistic even if you aren't visibly trans.

Yes, choices must be made in any given portrayal of something, however, research ahould also be done to make sure that portrayal is accurate to the people being represented. I don't know what Jeph plans to do with Claire in the future, so I can't claim he hasn't done that. However, thus far in her portrayal, I can point out, as a transwoman, pieces that I have a problem with.

I write, and I get that complaints about characters can be annoying or meaningless, but that doesn't always mean they are illegitimate. I didn't post here to start an argument, rather to state certain misgivings I have.

Honestly, I'm just tired of seeing two portrayals of transwomen-- not passable, unhappy murderer/ murder victim, or passable, pretty, and happy because cis-looking.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2016, 04:45
Thank you for your perspective (and awesome username), Persephiroth! Welcome to the forum.

Also I just noticed that Clinton is one of those strange people that delete their texts. Either that or he's never texted or been texted by Claire before.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: SubaruStephen on 12 May 2016, 04:50
Clinton: Your finest beer please.

Beerista: One Antarctic Nail Ale (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_Brewing) coming right up.

*Clintons wallet self-combusts and quickly immolates the bar*
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Wildroses on 12 May 2016, 05:12
Mmm...I'm not going to assume Clinton and the lady I think of as Bartender-Faye as they have identical surly attitudes to patrons of their beverages were making out. Jeph might just be wanting us to think that and there is an intricate and innocent explanation for why she's dressed in a blanket and Clinton is disheveled that will play out over the next fortnight.

I just remembered Faye's house burnt down not long after meeting Marten. Man, this woman really is like Faye. I'll be officially unnerved if she ends up moving in with Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 12 May 2016, 05:18
I really can't understand why everyone is speculating that the fire found Clinton and Barlady in bed together or something. The reason why Clinton looks dishevelled and Barlady is in a blanket is because they've just escaped a serious fire that probably involved being swept along with a horde of panicking drunks. It is quite possible that Barlady is in shock; after all her place of work (and possibly abode) is now a fireball! In such a case, temperature regulation is a vitally important element in stopping her from suffering knock-on effects. Depending on what caused the fire, it is also possible that some of Barlady's clothing was damaged so a blanket might be necessary for modesty too.

I can only assume that everyone is looking at this through shipping spectacles which is ironic because it's usually me who's the hopeless romantic!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: dexeron on 12 May 2016, 05:42
Whoa what just happened!?!?!?!?!

That's what happens when you don't serve water.

That's what happens when you give Clin-ton a beer.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 12 May 2016, 06:10
Welcome, insightful new person!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 May 2016, 06:15
Barlady is in a blanket because it's January in Massachusetts and she's freakin' cold despite the raging bonfire across the street, and her winter coat is currently a flaming mass of goose down and polyester somewhere in the middle of it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: rbos on 12 May 2016, 07:10
This latest comic reminded me of a running gag in the webcomic "Casey and Andy" by Andy Weir. Occasionally the characters would burn things down and end up in that pose outside. I wonder if Jacques has read that one and is making an homage to it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: JimC on 12 May 2016, 08:09
How's about someone tosses you in a building that goes up in flames when you think you're going to have an uneventful evening, and see how put together you look when you make it out into the street!

Quite. The last time I walked out of a burning building I was dressed in a pair of shorts and a waterproof jacket and carrying a selection of musical instruments, but not the most precious one*. Logic doesn't altogether come into it. Trust me on this.

If that wasn't bad enough I think Clinton missed the bus again.

The bus will have been diverted as the street will be closed.  So he's not going to catch it easily!


*Fortunately the fire didn't get as far as the cupboard it was stored in, which was sufficiently waterproof to protect it from the equally damaging water, so I still have that one too.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Y on 12 May 2016, 08:21
Did someone order toast (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22)? With a regular toaster as I would suppose intelligent toasters (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) won't burn down bars.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: osaka on 12 May 2016, 09:26
Intelligent toasters might also hate your guts and purposefully burn down the bar.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 12 May 2016, 09:37
Relevant to this conversation.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Toaster_(character)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 12 May 2016, 10:13
Intelligent toasters might also hate your guts and purposefully burn down the bar.
Then the toaster better either A. be ambulatory, or B. have a death wish.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 12 May 2016, 10:19
I can only assume that everyone is looking at this through shipping spectacles which is ironic because it's usually me who's the hopeless romantic!

I'm just remembering the last time we had a Clinton time-jump, and everyone was speculating based on his appearance while waiting for explanations. Much of the speculation turned out to be correct.

The fact that only the tattoo arm has the sleeve pulled up seems likely to be significant, IMHO. Did Barry try to plug something into Clinton's tattoo? Then the robot hand shorted out and caused the fire?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: osaka on 12 May 2016, 10:26
Intelligent toasters might also hate your guts and purposefully burn down the bar.
Then the toaster better either A. be ambulatory, or B. have a death wish.

Or C.- Have a hardened AI drive and be willing to move to a different chassis after the toaster one gets destroyed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 12 May 2016, 10:53
Whatever happened, nice foreshadowing on Jeph's part with the Titanic/iceberg image.

My brain helpfully supplied a mental image of a harpoon being fired through the window of a steamed up carriage.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 12 May 2016, 11:52
So Clinton is a one man Hangover crew...

I guess that makes Pintsize Chow?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 12 May 2016, 14:01
I appreciate "let us enjoy it in fiction", but I also don't think it's good to set a precedent of "to be happy, a trans woman must be X, Y, and Z", you know?

Without being ridiculous - and I do ask this as a question, not a statement posed as one - but by this measure, wouldn't any happy relationship a transperson was involved in automatically set a precedent that you 'must be x, y and z' to be happy, regardless of what 'x, y and z' were?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 12 May 2016, 14:20
Thank you for your perspective (and awesome username), Persephiroth! Welcome to the forum.

Also I just noticed that Clinton is one of those strange people that delete their texts. Either that or he's never texted or been texted by Claire before.

Wait, what?  There are people who don't delete their texts?   :-o

That's .. huh.  I'd have said 'crazy' but I guess all it warrants is 'inconvenient and poor judgment.' 

Why on earth would you keep old texts around?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 12 May 2016, 14:34
Did a bit of sleuthing in an effort to determine which bar Clinton burned down. Turns out there is no corresponding real-life bar in Northampton.

The bus that goes from Northampton to Amherst is route Blue 43. There are three major stops for it in Northampton. None of them has a bar that close to it. The closest bar to any of the bus stops is the Dirty Truth, the RL analogue of the Horrible Revelation - but it's almost two blocks away and Clinton definitely wasn't there. Nor does there appear to be a nautical-themed bar in RL Northampton.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 12 May 2016, 14:37
Deleting texts requires effort. :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 12 May 2016, 14:52
Thank you for your perspective (and awesome username), Persephiroth! Welcome to the forum.

Also I just noticed that Clinton is one of those strange people that delete their texts. Either that or he's never texted or been texted by Claire before.

Wait, what?  There are people who don't delete their texts?   :-o

That's .. huh.  I'd have said 'crazy' but I guess all it warrants is 'inconvenient and poor judgment.' 

Why on earth would you keep old texts around?

1. Some texts are worth keeping
2. I text myself things using it as a notepad
3. If my phone doesn't automatically delete them then why would I put the effort in to do so?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 12 May 2016, 15:07
I figure that most should be deleted, but I don't bother.  If nothing else, they're a useful memory aid to a previous conversation (I don't always trust my own recall).  I think that if I *did* start deleting texts, that'd be indicative of cutting a person out of my life.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: A Duck on 12 May 2016, 15:19
Assuming the night turned into an impromptu date between Clinton and the bar lady, or at least something close to that, and considering Clinton's last date, things are certainly escalating.

Let's hope his next date doesn't end with a nuclear disaster somewhere...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 12 May 2016, 16:50
I think Clintons 'What the hell just happened??!!' face is priceless

And where are his glasses?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: DSL on 12 May 2016, 18:12
Explosive harpoon, was it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Near Lurker on 12 May 2016, 18:38
Big Biz Tycoon should have a Hannermom mod.  Obviously.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: heyjames4 on 12 May 2016, 19:00
Response to Persephiroth

Hannelore lives with OCD.

Jeph introduced Hannelore in #515 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=515), she declared her OCD in 520, and she presents to the rest of the characters as 'high functioning', most of the time.
It wasn't until #959 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=959) that Jeph showed us what tribulations Hannelore goes through to be herself.
He said in that day's news post that he'd scripted that story in advance, but didn't show it to us until his drawing skill was up to it.


Claire is a trans woman.

Jeph introduced Claire in #2203 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2203).
Claire came out to Marten, and us the home viewers in #2323 (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2323)
Caire presented to us, and the rest of the QC characters, 'passing'.
 
If Jeph intends on doing a "here's what Claire has to go through to be herself" comic, then he'll do it when he feels he can do a proper job of it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Channelore HellicottAtham on 12 May 2016, 19:03
Well, THAT wasn't in the polls..! :o
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 12 May 2016, 19:19
Whoa what just happened!?!?!?!?!

The sight gags behind the bar all self combusted simultaneously. (See: any bar drawn by Phil Foglio)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 12 May 2016, 19:19
Nothing good ever happens after a pop.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Akima on 12 May 2016, 19:25
Wait, what?  There are people who don't delete their texts?   :-o
Yes, though I think it is an odd habit. In the same way, some people don't clean out the "trash bin" on their computers either. Personally, I delete my all my texts as I go, keeping them only as long as they are needed.

I suspect that the fire will become a "noodle incident (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoodleIncident)", but I wonder why the bartenders clothes got burned off while Clinton's didn't. Presumably the fire started behind the bar?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 May 2016, 19:29
As the comic says, it did start behind the bar, but she's also depicted as wearing clothes.

However, she's wearing clothes that aren't particularly well suited to the climate - seeing as she lived upstairs, she probably never felt the need to dress warmly, not having to go outside. So, blanket to cover her.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 12 May 2016, 19:31
Strip is up earlier than expected.  Still don't know how the fire started, but it wasn't due to any friction between Clinton and the bar lady. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Gladstone on 12 May 2016, 19:33
Surprise!  Welcome to the New QC!  Next week, Bar Lady (wait, does she have a name yet?) moves in with Clinton, and the real comic begins.

Save for the occasional cameo appearance, Marten is never seen again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: improvnerd on 12 May 2016, 19:38
Turns out there is no corresponding real-life bar in Northampton.

That's because it burned down. Haven't you been paying attention?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 12 May 2016, 19:41
It's worth noting that Clinton lives in a dorm room and already has a jock roommate.

So, Questionable Content 2: Question Harder won't work.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: improvnerd on 12 May 2016, 19:44
It's worth noting that Clinton lives in a dorm room and already has a jock roommate.

Barkeep lady evicts jock roommate with harpoon. Problem solved.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Somebody on 12 May 2016, 19:56
Did someone order toast (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22)? With a regular toaster as I would suppose intelligent toasters (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) won't burn down bars.
I don't want any toast.
He doesn't want any toast.
No one around here wants any toast.
Not now, not ever.
No toast.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 12 May 2016, 20:00
It's worth noting that Clinton lives in a dorm room and already has a jock roommate.

Barkeep lady evicts jock roommate with harpoon. Problem solved.

It's a college dormitory so I don't think that would be permitted.  Perhaps she and Bubbles should get an apartment.  They both have the same temperament. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 12 May 2016, 20:37
Wait, what?  There are people who don't delete their texts?   :-o
Yes, though I think it is an odd habit. In the same way, some people don't clean out the "trash bin" on their computers either. Personally, I delete my all my texts as I go, keeping them only as long as they are needed.
Well, that's quite a bit different. Trash is trash. Duplicate files, incomplete files, superseded files, etc. Texts are communication records, and you never know when prior communications will be important.

At first it seemed like her punctuated syntax was to make a point, but it continues to be odd. It seems likely that English is a second language for the bartender. I wonder where she's from?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 12 May 2016, 20:39
Did someone order toast (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22)? With a regular toaster as I would suppose intelligent toasters (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) won't burn down bars.

Well, this post turned out to be more relevant than we realised. Ten points to Griffindore.

And I just wanted to repeat what someone mentioned previously... the blanket is most likely there as a part of treatment for shock. Not because her clothes burned off (don't think she'd be just standing around if that had happened). Not because she lost her coat (Clinton isn't wearing one either).

Regarding the texts thing... it may seem like an odd habit to leave old texts lying around (nitpick: it's a lack of habit really). But, unlike the PC recycling bin, I don't think the phone will run out of memory due to accumulated texts any time soon.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2016, 20:55
See, I think it's an odd habit to delete texts (not counting deleting specific texts for w/e reason). I get doing it when you had to in the pre-smartphone era, but if you don't have to, why would you? Texts are a long running conversation, why would you erase the messages as they come?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: sitnspin on 12 May 2016, 21:09
Security?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 12 May 2016, 21:17
What do you mean?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Carl-E on 12 May 2016, 21:24
OK, last two words of the comic. 

Did Queequeg misinterpret Clinton's statement as an offer/request?    :evil:


Yeah, I know, she's just acknowledging his sympathetic expression, but it read a little oddly for a moment.  Just long enough for me to have that thought. 


And now, you have it too!   :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 12 May 2016, 21:27
And now she's homeless

Hey! I just had a thought - What if she OWNED the Bar?!




BTW, if the guy talking to Clinton is Jones, does that make the other guy Smith?  :D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Carl-E on 12 May 2016, 21:28
Hope it was well insured! 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Derec on 12 May 2016, 21:35
Thank you for your perspective (and awesome username), Persephiroth! Welcome to the forum.

Also I just noticed that Clinton is one of those strange people that delete their texts. Either that or he's never texted or been texted by Claire before.

Wait, what?  There are people who don't delete their texts?   :-o

That's .. huh.  I'd have said 'crazy' but I guess all it warrants is 'inconvenient and poor judgment.' 

Why on earth would you keep old texts around?

Huh. That's really interesting how different phone habits can be. In the past 5 years, I don't think I've ever once considered deleting a text. Sure, a decade ago there were space limits, but storage is now effectively infinite as far as texts go, so I can't really think of a reason to bother with doing it. My perplexity at deleting them matches your own at not doing so :)

Conversely, I'm very aggressive about archiving emails, but mostly because I use it as a todo list.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 12 May 2016, 21:42
And so, Clinton and still-unnamed Bar-lady become like Marten and Faye. Bonded by burning buildings, one kinda quiet, the other loud and violent, these things line up!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 12 May 2016, 22:15
And so, Clinton and still-unnamed Bar-lady become like Marten and Faye. Bonded by burning buildings, one kinda quiet, the other loud and violent, these things line up!

Coming soon, Jeph's all new webcomic "CombustibleContent.net".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: QuestionableIntentions on 12 May 2016, 22:28
Still calling it! Roommates!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Near Lurker on 12 May 2016, 22:39
And now she's homeless

Hey! I just had a thought - What if she OWNED the Bar?!

If she lived above the bar, and worked there, and felt comfortable giving out free drinks... she probably did.

That said, it seems pretty presumptuous of Clinton to offer to walk her home.  I know the crowd looked pretty skeevy, but there must be at least one of them she's come to trust more than some high-strung teetotal rando.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 12 May 2016, 22:49
I wouldn't have said presumptuous. I mean, I wouldn't refrain from offering on the assumption that someone else must have offered. It's just the decent thing to do.

Security?

Anyone who steals my phone and reads my texts will only achieve getting bored to death and giving me extra time to recover or disable it. Do you really send sensitive information via txt?

I wouldn't assume that deleted texts can't be recovered by a sufficiently motivated person. That would be somewhat naive.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hakko504 on 12 May 2016, 22:56
Did someone order toast (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=22)? With a regular toaster as I would suppose intelligent toasters (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1999) won't burn down bars.
I don't want any toast.
He doesn't want any toast.
No one around here wants any toast.
Not now, not ever.
No toast.
My friend here wants some toast.
And I'll have 4 fried chickens and a coke!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 12 May 2016, 23:18
I immediately stopped deleting my text messages when I came into the 21st century with a phone that doesn't have limited SMS capacity. Honestly, what's the point? It's tedious to delete the messages as they come, and it's served me well more than once to be able to scroll back through a conversation for details, or an amusing photo or some such, instead of asking for it again.

WRT the comic, no way are they moving in together. Clinton is still at school, living in the dorms, with a roommate. However, I wouldn't shy away from the betting odds that she somehow ends up staying with another member of the cast. If she ends up living with Clinton, that's just going to be completely trite. A newly-spun rehashing of the entire Marten/Faye storyline in its original days.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 12 May 2016, 23:28
My question is why would you keep texts?

Texts are a long running conversation,

Not necessarily.  And following that logic, do you make and keep recordings of all spoken conversations you have?

Quote
why would you erase the messages as they come?

Because they have served their purpose and are now rubbish.  Why would I want a six-month-past reminder of a dental appointment?  Why would I keep a message from someone saying where they are waiting for me or that they are running late?  I suppose that if I ever said or heard something genuinely important by text I might consider keeping it (probably by transferring it to some more suitable medium), but in nearly 20 years of mobile phone use that has never arisen.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Timemaster on 12 May 2016, 23:38
I don´t think the bar belongs belonged to mighty eyebrows girl. Her attitude is more like that of a clerk who doesn´t give a shit about his job beause she hates it anyway. But that leaves the question why she was living upstairs. Maybe she was living there anyway and only started working at the bar because that´s incredibly convenient.

I don´t delete my texts either. But I used the old Android of my 16-year old daughter when my iPhone was damaged. And I found more than 3GB of old WhatsApp data in the memory. Mostly pictures and short videos. WA doesn´t automaticaly delete those unless you tell it to. So if you run out of memory (and I did) you should check the memory used by your messenger apps and maybe change the settings.

TM
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 12 May 2016, 23:43
Yeah, it sounds as if there was a short circuit in the beer pumps that ignited a pool of spilt spirits. With all those accelerants lying around, a fire behind the bar would turn into an inferno in pretty short order.

So, now Barlady is jobless and homeless. Indeed, it is quite possible that she's lost absolutely everything that she owns except the clothes on her back and they probably aren't going to be in the best shape. If she is the owner/operator and the bar turns out to have been not up-to-code, then she may not get much, if anything, from her insurer. She is right to be in shock; she's starting utter destitution in the face. I'm wondering how she'll react when the shock wears off and reality hits home?

So, what next? I figure that Clinton will try to help her. Likely, he'll beg Marten and Claire to put her up on the couch fora night or two. Long term, she is going to need a lot of help to get back on her feet.

I don´t think the bar belongs belonged to mighty eyebrows girl. Her attitude is more like that of a clerk who doesn´t give a shit about his job beause she hates it anyway. But that leaves the question why she was living upstairs. Maybe she was living there anyway and only started working at the bar because that´s incredibly convenient.

Some jobs come with a room. Barlady might also have doubled as 24-hour on-call cleaner, watch person and delivery receiver.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 13 May 2016, 00:02
And on the conversational topic

I clear out my Texts usually once a week.  No point in hanging on to them beyond that if there's notthing you need to 'Call Back' on.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 13 May 2016, 00:11
Anyone who steals my phone and reads my texts will only achieve getting bored to death and giving me extra time to recover or disable it. Do you really send sensitive information via txt?

Anyone who steals my phone will have to be able to crack the crypto first.  Additionally, I treat any form of communication w/o end-to-end encryption to be about as private as a postcard.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 13 May 2016, 00:18
Delurking again...

I'm kinda surprised people delete their texts. I keep them on the phone, mostly because I see no point in bothering to delete them, but I also *like* to have a history of conversations with a person. Most texts are inconsequential, but I still sometimes return to an older exchange, if nothing else - to remember when it occurred or to check a certain detail.

Granted, I'm the guy who, at the time I was a frequent IRC user, would keep the log of every single conversation I had. I just *like* to keep a record of my communication. Pretty much the only thing I delete are spam e-mails, but I tend to keep the regular ones.

Honestly, I don't see any benefit from deleting an older message...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 13 May 2016, 00:21
Maybe it's that I didn't start texting until a few years ago (like, three, maybe?).  Maybe it's that I *still* don't text much.  Both of those lead to I have never had problems with storage capacity.

I didn't even know I *could* delete old texts until this conversation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 13 May 2016, 01:19
Over on the Subreddit, someone has suggested that Barlady's name will be Irene 'Ira' Browse. Her mother's name was Mona Browse.

:-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 13 May 2016, 03:09
My question is why would you keep texts?

Only because keeping them requires zero effort, deleting them requires some small amount of effort, and it doesn't otherwise matter either way.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 13 May 2016, 06:45
I kinda hope that Bar Lady becomes a regular, but they never give her a name, or even a nickname. Like, it just never comes up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: retrosteve on 13 May 2016, 07:18
I kinda hope that Bar Lady becomes a regular, but they never give her a name, or even a nickname. Like, it just never comes up.

It will come up in the next comic when Clinton invites her back to his place. I wonder if she'll bring her harpoon.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 13 May 2016, 07:27
I'm just happy to hear it wasn't Clinton's fault.

Dude needs to catch a little bit of a break now and again.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 13 May 2016, 07:28
The way she talks... I realized she reminds me of Rei from Evangelion. Clinton would be the perfect whiny Shinji for sure.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Radium_Coyote on 13 May 2016, 08:37
Clinton's a man of action, not to mention a risk-taker, and she's a woman of few words.  I wouldn't call it a match made in heaven, but there's possibilities.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BlueFatima on 13 May 2016, 09:06
Hmmm... Betting Clinton is going to miss the last bus and they will be looking for a place to stay together.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Pintman on 13 May 2016, 09:18
Hmmm... Betting Clinton is going to miss the last bus and they will be looking for a place to stay together.

Worse comes to worst, though, he does have a sister with a car...

I kinda hope that Bar Lady becomes a regular, but they never give her a name, or even a nickname. Like, it just never comes up.

It will come up in the next comic when Clinton invites her back to his place. I wonder if she'll bring her harpoon.

I am completely failing to not reply to this with "if you know what I mean"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 May 2016, 10:02
Hmmm... Betting Clinton is going to miss the last bus and they will be looking for a place to stay together.

If you want to go this route, Clinton and Bar Lady could share a room at the Hotel Northampton (http://www.hotelnorthampton.com/).

Or, you know, Clinton also has a mom who lives in Northampton. He could always just walk home and explain why he needs to crash there for the night. But where are the wacky hijinks in that story?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 13 May 2016, 10:21
Or, you know, Clinton also has a mom who lives in Northampton. He could always just walk home and explain why he needs to crash there for the night. But where are the wacky hijinks in that story?

Mrs A likes matchmaking for her kids and is a pro at casual manipulation in a way that Claire can't imagine. If Clinton turns up with a strange girl for whom he is acting the White Knight, she may decide to push matters in the direction she wants them to go.

BARLADY: "Your mother is strange. Kept looking at me funny. Told me that she's looking forward to having a second daughter."

CLINTON: "MMMOOOMMM!!!"

BARLADY: "Also told me you like the colour green and tall girls. Why tell me that?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 13 May 2016, 10:30
In the same way, some people don't clean out the "trash bin" on their computers either. Personally, I delete my all my texts as I go, keeping them only as long as they are needed.
Well, that's quite a bit different. Trash is trash. Duplicate files, incomplete files, superseded files, etc. Texts are communication records, and you never know when prior communications will be important.
Indeed, that's why I delete it.  I would hate to have to call up everyone I know and warn them that some asshat who stole my phone or hacked it now has a copy of everything they ever wrote to me.  Some of that is extremely personal stuff, and risking their privacy would be damned rude to my correspondents.  Anything I think I need to keep goes somewhere a LOT more secure than a phone.  I would hate to think that anyone I correspond privately with doesn't delete old texts.
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At first it seemed like her punctuated syntax was to make a point, but it continues to be odd. It seems likely that English is a second language for the bartender. I wonder where she's from?

Her affect is extremely flat.  I suspect  (if this is as a result of Jeph having done his research as usual) that it indicates that she's probably not neurotypical.

Does it seem odd to anyone else that the spelling dictionary used on this particular board counts "Jeph" as a misspelling?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 13 May 2016, 10:35
I didn't even know I *could* delete old texts until this conversation.

An education all around, I suppose.  Until this conversation I had no idea there would be anyone on the planet who didn't - and also expected that just because it would be astonishingly stupid in terms of liability for the service providers otherwise, if I were to forget then the messages would time out after a week or so if I didn't delete them. 

You're telling me they don't even protect themselves from liability in the least? 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Case on 13 May 2016, 10:43
Clinton: Your finest beer please.

Beerista: One Antarctic Nail Ale (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nail_Brewing) coming right up.

*Clintons wallet self-combusts and quickly immolates the bar*

I'm actually more impressed with the fact that Australia has a 'Ministry of Racing, Gaming and Liquor' ...

Well done! (I guess?)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 13 May 2016, 12:00
You're telling me they don't even protect themselves from liability in the least? 
They're being stored on the phone, which is your property, not necessarily on the provider's servers (although IIRC they're kept there in case of subpoena). So, it's up to you to delete them if you want to.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 13 May 2016, 12:36
Does it seem odd to anyone else that the spelling dictionary used on this particular board counts "Jeph" as a misspelling?

No, because it doesn't.  Although the forum software can be set to use the PHP spell-checker, it is not enabled for this forum (nor is the spell-checker installed anyway).  So it must be the spell-check in your browser that is objecting to Jeph - and mine doesn't.  I would expect you to be able to right-click it and add it to the dictionary anyway (maybe I did that).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Roborat on 13 May 2016, 12:39
Hmmm, a mysterious fire, and harpoon girl looses her apartment.  Is Faye anywhere in the vicinity? Is she  connected to Faye somehow?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 May 2016, 13:05
She's obviously evil mirror universe Faye. She even has the goatee, she just moved it to her eyebrows.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 13 May 2016, 15:38
She's obviously evil mirror universe Faye. She even has the goatee, she just moved it to her eyebrows.

Hey! As someone with thick eyebrows, I find it offensive that people equate thick eyebrows with evilness.

It's wrong and it's hurtful and it's mean!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: thedevilissix on 13 May 2016, 15:57
Hmm. Clinton and Lady Bar.

.....could this be like Marten & Faye at the very beginning of QC again? 'Twould be a delightful way for the comic to come full circle. :evil: :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 13 May 2016, 16:34
She's obviously evil mirror universe Faye. She even has the goatee, she just moved it to her eyebrows.

Hey! As someone with thick eyebrows, I find it offensive that people equate thick eyebrows with evilness.

It's wrong and it's hurtful and it's mean!

Hey, I have thick eyebrows too.

Muhahahaha!  :evil:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: retrosteve on 13 May 2016, 17:32
And so, Clinton and still-unnamed Bar-lady become like Marten and Faye. Bonded by burning buildings, one kinda quiet, the other loud and violent, these things line up!

I just have to point out that this wouldn't be the first QC relationship that began with a girl's place being on fire. OR EVEN THE SECOND: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1552
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 13 May 2016, 17:53
Pretty sure the beerista does not own the bar. The 'No Water' policy was imposed from above. If she owned the place, she wouldn't have bothered to put a lemon wedge in the water she gave Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Storel on 13 May 2016, 21:40
She's obviously evil mirror universe Faye. She even has the goatee, she just moved it to her eyebrows.

Hey! As someone with thick eyebrows, I find it offensive that people equate thick eyebrows with evilness.

It's wrong and it's hurtful and it's mean!

My Uncle Terry was one of the nicest, jolliest fellows you'd ever meet -- and he had the thickest, bushiest eyebrows I have ever seen on any human being, real or fictional. Even "Mighty Eyebrows" Smitty from Gunnerkrigg Court couldn't surpass him.  :-o My first wife was convinced that he deliberately cultivated them in some way, though I don't know how you would. Maybe a little mustache wax?

About halfway through my thirties some of my eyebrow hairs started sticking out at funny angles, as older people's eyebrows will do, and so of course she diagnosed me with "Uncle Terry Syndrome".  :wink:

And so, Clinton and still-unnamed Bar-lady become like Marten and Faye. Bonded by burning buildings, one kinda quiet, the other loud and violent, these things line up!

I just have to point out that this wouldn't be the first QC relationship that began with a girl's place being on fire. OR EVEN THE SECOND: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1552

Actually, that one was only a false alarm, not an actual fire.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Omega Entity on 13 May 2016, 21:54
Don't know if anyone's said this yet or not, but has anyone else noticed that Beerista's eyebrows have gone from relatively-normal thickness to overgrown caterpillers from 3210 to present?

Apologies if it's already been mentioned, but I figured I'd interrupt my break from the forum for that observation.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Case on 13 May 2016, 23:44
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbkwe0ETrd1r1hfclo9_250.gif)

(All this talk about Harpoonista's eyebrows reminded me of the commentary-track by Claudia Christian on a Babylon 5-DVD (Yes, I sometimes listen to the commentary track. Something wrong with that?) on how much the fashion regarding eyebrows had changed since the 90s.)


Personally, unless someone is sporting "The Waigel", I hardly notice ...
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Omega Entity on 13 May 2016, 23:46
I dunno, they're kinda bordering on Waigel-level, to me. Especially compared to how they started.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Case on 14 May 2016, 00:00
I dunno, they're kinda bordering on Waigel-level, to me. Especially compared to how they started.

(http://media.theiapolis.com/d4/hF3/i1P06/k4/l1PEN/wZH/freddie-jones-as-thufir-hawat-in-dune-1984.jpg)

Thufir sez:

Always good to have a point of reference ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Omega Entity on 14 May 2016, 00:15
Alright. She has nothing on -that-.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Persephiroth on 14 May 2016, 03:35
I appreciate "let us enjoy it in fiction", but I also don't think it's good to set a precedent of "to be happy, a trans woman must be X, Y, and Z", you know?

Without being ridiculous - and I do ask this as a question, not a statement posed as one - but by this measure, wouldn't any happy relationship a transperson was involved in automatically set a precedent that you 'must be x, y and z' to be happy, regardless of what 'x, y and z' were?

No. I see the point you're trying to make, but given that various media has very set parameters for what trans portrayals are (which is changing, albeit, slowly), there is very little variance. Were there more variety, the precedent wouldn't be as painfully obvious. For example, there are standard portrayals of cis relationships too, but there's enough variety in them that I can't put them in two solid categories.



To the general ether: I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, and I'm not trying to start fights. I'm merely stating my opinion on a portrayal I find slightly bothersome. I am still a fan of the comic and Jeph's writing and art in general. However, I AM a part of the group he is portraying with Claire, and I feel justified stating any misgivings I may have. I don't mean to make people defensive about it--giving a critique does not mean I'm saying the comic is bad, or that Claire herself is a terrible character. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 14 May 2016, 05:44
That is how I took it.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 14 May 2016, 07:44
I appreciate "let us enjoy it in fiction", but I also don't think it's good to set a precedent of "to be happy, a trans woman must be X, Y, and Z", you know?

Without being ridiculous - and I do ask this as a question, not a statement posed as one - but by this measure, wouldn't any happy relationship a transperson was involved in automatically set a precedent that you 'must be x, y and z' to be happy, regardless of what 'x, y and z' were?

No. I see the point you're trying to make, but given that various media has very set parameters for what trans portrayals are (which is changing, albeit, slowly), there is very little variance. Were there more variety, the precedent wouldn't be as painfully obvious. For example, there are standard portrayals of cis relationships too, but there's enough variety in them that I can't put them in two solid categories.



To the general ether: I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here, and I'm not trying to start fights. I'm merely stating my opinion on a portrayal I find slightly bothersome. I am still a fan of the comic and Jeph's writing and art in general. However, I AM a part of the group he is portraying with Claire, and I feel justified stating any misgivings I may have. I don't mean to make people defensive about it--giving a critique does not mean I'm saying the comic is bad, or that Claire herself is a terrible character.

1. Nobody that I saw was getting defensive, if they were then we'd step in because you weren't being an instigator. Many of us as mods criticise the comic for all sorts of reasons, many far less valid than yours in particular, and I'm pretty sure Jeph himself welcomes these discussions when they remain civil, or at the bare minimum is used to them by nature of having been putting this comic online for over a decade.
2. As a member of that group you refer to, your opinion carries significant weight in a which mine, as a member of LGBTQI but still cis male, does not, which is why we value your insight on matters such as this.
3. In response to your answer to my particular question, I do see your point - quite frankly as someone relatively new to all the concepts of trans in general (I've only really known about any of it for three to four years, more or less since my return to this forum in late 2012), I see barely any portrayals of trans people in the media, even though they are increasing every day as best as I can see it. All I was thinking was a response to something our very own ZoeB posted a while back when Claire and Marten first began as a couple, in which Zoe's argument in favour of their relationship running smoothly was that this would be the only example she knew of for a cis/trans relationship running smoothly in the media, and so however that was going it was still a step in the right direction. For me, and I know we are a LONG way away from this, the ideal would be simply that transfolk were so accepted that it doesn't need to be a storyline focus, it simply is, and that's cool, as is any kind of loving, legal relationship.

In fairness, I apply that principle to all sorts of different minority things. One of my favourite things about an old animated series called Home Movies was that the main character had a younger, mixed-race, adopted sister. The adoption and her racial background were acknowledged perhaps once in four seasons that I remember, and never featured in a storyline. It was simply a fact of their family that she was adopted and mixed race, and that was fine. It didn't NEED to be a storyline. And I loved that because too often people in real life, and especially in the media, become only what they are instead of who they are. Everything has to be a storyline rather than merely a character trait that is just accepted and then doesn't require in-depth acknowledgement.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Storel on 14 May 2016, 13:54
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Thufir sez:

Always good to have a point of reference ...

Okay, that's almost certainly movie make-up, but even so I can finally say I've seen a fictional human being with bushier eyebrows than my late Uncle Terry. Most impressive!

Still looking for a real human who can beat him, though. And no, the Waigel brows didn't quite make the cut.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: Persephiroth on 14 May 2016, 22:25
Thrillho: Haha, Home Movies. I completely forgot about that show.

And to your point, yes, that is true, but there also problems in not acknowledging things, which can lead to all sorts of erasure. That is a little bit further than I think is needed for this discussion, though.

As for media portrayals of trans people, thank god they're increasing. There is so much media misinformation about trans people that people take to heart, and I really hope that switching the narrative will eventually help with that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3216 to 3220 (9th to 13th May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 15 May 2016, 12:37
The Great Game X-Over Poll Results
1. The Sims - 30 (22.1%)
2. Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball - 20 (14.7%)
3. Kerbal Space Program - 16 (11.8%)
4. Pokémon - 15 (11%)
5. Fallout - 14 (10.3%)
6. Mortal Kombat/Street Fighter - 11 (8.1%)
7. Civilisation/Age of Empires - 9 (6.6%)
8. Other (please specify in comment) - 8 (5.9%
9. Legend of Zelda - 7 (5.1%)
10. X-Com - 5 (3.7%)
11. RWBY - Grimm Eclipse - 1 (0.7%)

Well, the poll result is pretty unequivocal this week with more that one in five voting for our winner! Modders, get developing those QC characters and houses for The Sims! You have a lot of customers waiting for you on this site at least!

As for the runner up? Well, all I can say is that it doesn't surprise me in the slightest! :evil: