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Title: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 22 May 2016, 14:02
The Poll!
The Poll!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 22 May 2016, 14:08
Wow! 29005 strips this coming week! Only in three days as well I can't wait! That's um... nine strips a second on average! :D
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I wouldn't be surprised if next week is a whole new arc. Why not do something original and follow up with Mrs A and her empty nest syndrome? Or maybe she rather wants the kids out whilst she still has enough lifetime left to enjoy glorious, glorious freedom from that responsibility! I'm thinking a week of Claire and Clairemom conversation could tell us a lot about what is Claire's current status vis home location and where she spends most of her time.

That said, some more Faye and Bubbles would be nice.

IMO, Brun meeting Emily would be a bit like a Slowbro meeting a Psyduck - Two utterly unique minds meeting, failing to communicate and not knowing it!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: DrBear on 22 May 2016, 14:30
Remember, Clinton "Make A Bad Situation Worse" Augustus can do just that -
"Hey, Claire, guess what Mom was doing when I dropped in last night..."
Cue frozen Claire shock face for the next 29005 strips
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 22 May 2016, 17:24
Clinton is the one who's gonna BSOD from that, not Claire, she's been mostly fine with the idea of her mom even having "crazy threesomes".

Of course, it probably didn't help that it was someone that Clinton already knew...

("Clinton's mom, has got it goin' on..." works...)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 May 2016, 17:56
I am the one who voted for the option "Clinton checks up on Brun, and we learn a bit more about Brun as they discuss what happened, including why Brun stopped talking - over Spathe Pizza with Ham and Beer."

Well, there was no 'other', so... I went with the closest one.

P.S. I completely overlooked "nothing in this poll is right," which is practically always the correct answer. :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 22 May 2016, 18:16
Yea I imagine it will have an explanation bit as part of the week, and possibly branch off from Brunhilde/Clinton/Claire/Emily.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 22 May 2016, 18:19
Two of these options aren't possible, because we already met Brun's boss.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 May 2016, 18:20
Dolphin Jack?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 22 May 2016, 18:32
Dolphin Jack?

Shotgun Moe!

Sheesh ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 22 May 2016, 18:48
The return of Tortura would be interesting...but Cosette probably wouldn't approve.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 22 May 2016, 18:52
I'm betting we get filler for tomorrow, since boss is somewhere between Vancouver and NB right now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 22 May 2016, 18:59
I'm sure we'll be seeing more of Brun, either this week or eventually. I'm assuming Clinton would alert Claire not to drop in on Mom unannounced anymore. Clinton may need some time to process all that's happened to him.

But it'd be just like Jeph to leave the Clinton story for a bit and take us back to one of the other locales, like the robot fighting rink, or Smif library, or Dale, Marigold and Momo's, or Chez Veronica and Jim. Or, out of left field, we could see a sudden reappearance of Angus. Maybe he'll be crashing at Sven's, and they decide to have a night out at the robot fights (hilarity ensues).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 22 May 2016, 20:09
Emily and Brun must meet. I will ensue.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 22 May 2016, 20:15
Dang, Angus re-appearing would definitely spice things up and possibly in a very awkward and chaotic way.

Some more Dale/Marigold/Momo stuff would be nice though, I (personally) feel like they (Dale&Marigold) were kind of paired, given some time as a new couple, and then put on the shelf. Or, at least in terms of character development. They've been around but have been the same for a bit. (IMO)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 22 May 2016, 21:13
That would depend on whether Faye set Bubbles on him or not.

Yes, yes, I know she really wouldn't hurt him and all that, but just the sheer sight of Bubbles would be enough to have Angus peeing his pants.  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 22 May 2016, 21:15
Comic!

And really, Clinton, how do you think you and Claire got there?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 22 May 2016, 21:20
Clinton overreacting again it would appear.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 May 2016, 21:24
There's a book entitled "My Parents Never Had Sex".

Hey, they could theoretically have been IVF kids.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/genetic_analysis.png)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 22 May 2016, 21:29
Here's how I see Tuesday's comic.

First panel:  Claire vomits on Clin-ton.
Second panel:  Clin-ton texts Marten asking how to clean vomit.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 22 May 2016, 21:35
Poor Clinton. This is worse than finding a "back massager" in Mom's sock drawer. With attachments.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 May 2016, 21:40
Here's how I see Tuesday's comic.

First panel:  Claire vomits on Clin-ton.
Second panel:  Clin-ton texts Marten asking how to clean vomit.
The reply: "Hold on, I have to get Hanners liquored up."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Gladstone on 22 May 2016, 21:51
CLINTON: "I forgive you.  And I'm sorry for blowing up the way I did.  But we have more important matters to discuss."
CLAIRE: "We do?"
CLINTON: "Our mother is having sex.
CLAIRE: "wHAT"
CLINTON: "I know-"
CLAIRE: "That's AWESOME!"
CLINTON: "What."
CLAIRE: "Good for her!"
CLINTON: "wHAT"
CLAIRE: "Are you seriously going to do the whole 'Parents sex ew' thing?  Give me a break.  C'mon, back to Marten's.  Pintsize has banners.  We're gonna throw her a party."
CLINTON: "But--"
CLAIRE: "Yeah, good point, wait til morning."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: MrNumbers on 22 May 2016, 21:54
Man I... I really miss Claire's old aesthetic.

 :claireface: Like compare this to panel 3.

But yeah. Clinton.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 May 2016, 22:38
I like the distant perspective and backgrounds in the first two panels. I'm kind of wondering where this is now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 22 May 2016, 22:43
I love how Clinton has this petrified look on his face the whole conversation, and probably has since last night. He probably slept with that same expression.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 22 May 2016, 22:57
Comic!

And really, Clinton, how do you think you and Claire got there?

By walking?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 May 2016, 23:11
That is totally valid headcanon.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Lubricus on 22 May 2016, 23:28
I love how Clinton has this petrified look on his face the whole conversation, and probably has since last night. He probably slept with that same expression.

Unless he had a disturbingly erotic dream featuring Brun, Emily and Chad. Oh, wait, he'd still have that expression, wouldn't he?  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 22 May 2016, 23:30
It looks like that I underestimated just how traumatic Clinton is finding this revelation to be by several orders of magnitude. Okay, so it's a silly level of exaggeration (comedy is mostly about exaggerating or underplaying something) but it is clear that his mother having a sex life was something for which he was emotionally unprepared!

My gut says that this is going to be a few strips of Claire attempting to deprogram Clinton's delusion that their mother must be pure and virginal followed by meeting up with Brun so that she can make his head spin even more!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 23 May 2016, 00:04
Is it unreasonable to think that this may be stemming in part from issues from their dad cheating on Mama Augustus?  Like, on a rational level he knows that they're divorced, his mom's perfectly free to move on and find someone new if she wants, but on some subconscious level this is tripping that trigger?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 23 May 2016, 00:10
So... yeah. Clinton's gone from "a perfectly reasonable, somewhat uncomfortable reaction to walking in on his post-coital mother" to full-on squick-induced panic mode. Eeeeeeugh.

Then again, it does seem in character for Clinton. Still. Eeeeeeugh.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 23 May 2016, 00:15
Man I... I really miss Claire's old aesthetic.
:claireface: Like compare this to panel 3.
But yeah. Clinton.
Well, she graduated to Creators Pet. That has its pluses and minuses.

I feel like Clinton's comment is for amusing effect before he goes into more detail next strip or between strips that it is specifically disturbing because he knows the guy, which I can kind of see. It's one thing to be okay with parental boning, it's another thing to be okay with them boning a member of your age bracket that you are personally acquainted with.  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 23 May 2016, 01:42
Is it unreasonable to think that this may be stemming in part from issues from their dad cheating on Mama Augustus?  Like, on a rational level he knows that they're divorced, his mom's perfectly free to move on and find someone new if she wants, but on some subconscious level this is tripping that trigger?

Yeah, that sounds plausible. Claire has a complex about infidelity and 'home-wreckers' so I think it's quite possible that Clinton has some neuroses about it too.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 23 May 2016, 02:04
Hm. I still feel it's somewhat poor form to go all "Babe, who's at the door?" before you've been properly introduced into your lover's social life ...

But damnit, Clin-Ton!  :x


Poor Clinton. This is worse than finding a "back massager" in Mom's sock drawer. With attachments.

Yeah, that would be bad. Can't remember ever being so spaced out I found myself going through Mom's socks drawer ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Akima on 23 May 2016, 03:54
Mrs. Augustus needs to put a sock on the door-knob. Clinton needs to put a sock in his mouth.

The Augustus siblings obviously react differently to cold weather, and I like the way that small square is drawn.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Wildroses on 23 May 2016, 03:58
I wonder if Chad was a one night stand or if it is an ongoing relationship? And I wonder which one Clinton and Claire would find more horrifying? I feel a bit sorry for Clinton's mum. It was pretty reasonable to expect your child who does not live with you to not visit super late, and if Clinton hadn't had such a terrible sequence of events at the bar he'd never had dreamed of doing so. But they both had to go through the humiliation of Chad trying to introduce Clinton to his own mother.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Lubricus on 23 May 2016, 04:16
I'm sort of wanting Claire's response to be something like "Oh, you mean Chad? He's just super right for Mom!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 23 May 2016, 04:25
I wonder if Chad was a one night stand or if it is an ongoing relationship? And I wonder which one Clinton and Claire would find more horrifying?

It's a sticky situation and an interesting question to address. If Chad is the same guy who was working in the computer store then he has a relatively secure job so it isn't as if he's a potential leech looking to live off of her. If he's okay with the age difference with Mrs A then it becomes their business and their business alone if they wish to enter a long-term relationship.

That said, it would be entirely understandable if Clinton and Claire flinch at the thought of potentially having a stepfather who is possibly younger than either of them!

FWIW, I always wonder how the children of ageing actresses handle them having new spouses who are younger than they are by several decades!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: gopher on 23 May 2016, 04:37
Looks like Claire is on the express train to hipster-town, sad. Also makes it very tricky to get a useful job in the real world.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 23 May 2016, 04:49
Wonder how Chad and Mrs. A met?

Craigslist.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: blt on 23 May 2016, 05:41
I sort of wish there'd been a third long distance panel, because for some reason the top two give me the impression that they were stationary, and then smacked together at warp speed, like if you put two magnets near each other.

And then we could avoid the bottom panels of Clinton being unnecessarily grossed out 😒 :roll:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 23 May 2016, 05:49
Mrs. Augustus needs to put a sock on the door-knob. Clinton needs to put a sock in his mouth.

Oh, I don't know -> The DUAL female-deathray-of-scorn after Claire has the obligatory Mom-can-have-a-life-of-her-own heart-to-heart with Ms. Augustus might do him a power of good ...
(... If he's very, very lucky, they won't invite Emily over ...)

Clinnnnn!-tonnnnn!  :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: dexeron on 23 May 2016, 06:12
It's a sign of how far gone I am that reading the title of the strip ("From Crisis to Crisis") immediately made:

"Washington cannot be left alone to his devices."

Pop into my head.

It's too late for me.  Save yourselves!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 23 May 2016, 06:18
I feel like Clinton's comment is for amusing effect before he goes into more detail next strip or between strips that it is specifically disturbing because he knows the guy, which I can kind of see. It's one thing to be okay with parental boning, it's another thing to be okay with them boning a member of your age bracket that you are personally acquainted with.  :psyduck:

Glad to see I'm not the only one who saw Clinton's reaction this way instead of going all "Oh dude is irrational and stuff". I tend to overreact my comments about events most of the time just for the lolz. It's not that rare.
We need to see the upcoming strips to actually get the full vibe of his comment. Clinton is most likely ok with her mom having some fun with whoever she wants. But to me, seeing all that right in front of you is something I'll gladly pass because I simply do not care about what my mom or anyone besides myself and a significant other does in the bedroom.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Bokonon on 23 May 2016, 08:41
It's a sign of how far gone I am that reading the title of the strip ("From Crisis to Crisis") immediately made:

"Washington cannot be left alone to his devices."

Pop into my head.

It's too late for me.  Save yourselves!

Oh gods.  I hoped it was just me.  The infection has spread farther than we thought!

(And yes, I just created an account here for the first time after years and years of lurking...to join in on a Hamilton reference - so, uh, hi?) :)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 23 May 2016, 08:45
...

Glad to see I'm not the only one who saw Clinton's reaction this way instead of going all "Oh dude is irrational and stuff". I tend to overreact my comments about events most of the time just for the lolz. It's not that rare.
We need to see the upcoming strips to actually get the full vibe of his comment. Clinton is most likely ok with her mom having some fun with whoever she wants. But to me, seeing all that right in front of you is something I'll gladly pass because I simply do not care about what my mom or anyone besides myself and a significant other does in the bedroom.

Yeah ... it's less that Clin-ton has a BSOD over parental boning - it's more his immediately ratting out on his Mom that's really a bit immature.

And I'd still remark that Chad might consider a "No Man-of-the-house bollocks until she's introduced me to her kids & friends"-upgrade to his social graces database - All that gregarious, manly-male bodycomfort is nice and well, but it's really her place, and her life that he's getting all comfortable in.

Could also have been the nosy neighbor that was at the door, or some other mate of his, going door-to-door for some college-project/good cause of the month or other - I don't think Ms. Augustus would be delighted to find herself on some "Hot Local Cougars"-website or other.
 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Platypodes on 23 May 2016, 09:46
Jeph seems to be rather fond of the "moms bangin' hot young dudes" theme.

Hm. I still feel it's somewhat poor form to go all "Babe, who's at the door?" before you've been properly introduced into your lover's social life

Not to mention going up to said lover's door in your boxer-briefs....  Really, it didn't cross his mind that that could cause embarrassment to anybody?  I'm thinking Chad's the sweet-natured but clueless type.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 23 May 2016, 09:59
Jeph seems to be rather fond of the "moms bangin' hot young dudes" theme.

Hm. I still feel it's somewhat poor form to go all "Babe, who's at the door?" before you've been properly introduced into your lover's social life

Not to mention going up to said lover's door in your boxer-briefs....  Really, it didn't cross his mind that that could cause embarrassment to anybody?  I'm thinking Chad's the sweet-natured but clueless type.

Next strip: Chad runs into Clinton & Claire, turns on the charm ... and Clinton goes into a fugue state, fends off Chad with a 10-foot crucifix, hollering "Elaaaaiiiiine!"...

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 23 May 2016, 10:38
Wonder if Clinton will be upset with Claire again if she tells him that she knows and it's been going on for awhile. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 23 May 2016, 11:08
At this point I must reiterate my reference to Captain Awesome (civilian name: Devon Woodcomb), who, like Chad, is gregarious, manly, and has no body shame.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 23 May 2016, 11:16
I just thought of a way this could reach BenRG levels of darkness - what if Claire says something like "yeah, I know, not a big deal, x seems to be good for her"... x not equaling Chad?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 23 May 2016, 11:45
Wonder if Clinton will be upset with Claire again if she tells him that she knows and it's been going on for awhile.

"Well, yeah. I knew that already. That's one of the reasons I've been spending so many nights over at Marten's lately. They can get a bit.. loud."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Welu on 23 May 2016, 14:21
I wonder if Clinton's reaction is more than just, "Ew, parent sex!" and could be partially, "Mum's dating again!"? This might be the first time Clinton is seeing his mother with someone other than his father. Also it's one thing to see your parent with a stranger and another to be with someone you knew previously and if Clinton tutored him, then it's likely that Chad is around his age or slightly younger.

I also wondered if it's possible that his Mom met Chad while Clinton was tutoring him, but it seems Chad is unaware of the familial relation because he doesn't say, "Wow, your son is the guy who tutored me!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 23 May 2016, 14:25
I wonder if Clinton's reaction is more than just, "Ew, parent sex!" and could be partially, "Mum's dating again!"? This might be the first time Clinton is seeing his mother with someone other than his father. Also it's one thing to see your parent with a stranger and another to be with someone you knew previously and if Clinton tutored him, then it's likely that Chad is around his age or slightly younger.

I also wondered if it's possible that his Mom met Chad while Clinton was tutoring him, but it seems Chad is unaware of the familial relation because he doesn't say, "Wow, your son is the guy who tutored me!"

Between strips:
Chad: "Babe? Funny thing that, but that guy Clinton? He has the same family name as you! I wonder what he wanted ..."
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 23 May 2016, 14:27
Would he, though? His parents are divorced.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Welu on 23 May 2016, 14:35
I know of women who have kept the ex-husband's name for various personal reasons. It's also possible mom changed back to the maiden name and either changed their names as well or the children chose to as a show of support or family.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 May 2016, 14:48
There's no evidence for it but it would have been a meddler move and in the service of the Principle of Maximum Awkwardness if Claire had fixed them up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 23 May 2016, 15:06
One thing we know about ClaireMom is she's not bashful about inviting young men over to the house. Perhaps she romanced Chad with pancakes. We also don't know what she does in the way of work, either. She may have run into Chad in the course of that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 23 May 2016, 15:16
And later on we find out she's an 'Associate' of Veronica Vance
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Timemaster on 23 May 2016, 22:34
Comic!

Clinton has weird priorities. And he didn´t mention the clock either.

Claire managed to calm him down quite fast. Go mom. I like that.

TM
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Mr. Doctor on 23 May 2016, 22:38
Whoa CHad is friggin 21!?!
Genetics are so unfair. Here I am, 23, 5'6'' and looking like a kid by comparison.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 23 May 2016, 22:38
I think that we all were more-or-less expecting today's strip to turn out the way that it did. However, it a certain way, it probably tells us a lot about Clinton, his personality and, possibly, his relationship with his mother.

Look at his monologue in panel 3 and his body language. Although he is making a show of agreeing with Claire, you can tell that he thinks she's being irrational. He also uses a lot of pointed language to show that he still disapproves of his mother's choices but that he doesn't want to start (another) fight with Claire over it. Claire also correctly zeroes in on the strange fact that, with all the stuff (some of it life-threatening) that had happened to him that night, why is he most worried about his mother's sex life?

That said, Clinton gets an award for summarising what was, what...? 25 strips...? Managing to boil that down to a single run-on sentence is pretty impressive! I'm sure that the educator in Claire would be impressed if she weren't more worried about his safety and his skewed idea of what was the more important events of that night!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 23 May 2016, 22:48
But he still didn't mention the Harpoon

It's amazing the kind of things you'll latch on to to rationalise a night like that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 23 May 2016, 22:54
From Crisis to Crisis? Sounds a lot like DC Comics, doesn't it? Am I right or am I right?

 :clairedoge:

(I accidentally posted this on last week's discussion thing. Quite embarrassing.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 May 2016, 22:55
I'm still laughing at (emphasis is mine): "Well, if she wants to hook up with 21 year old guys who're bad at math, that's her prerogative."

The horror!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 23 May 2016, 23:03
In Clinton's defense it was the most recent of the shocks of the evening and therefore salient.

It's also the only one that stayed emotionally unresolved due to the lack of any appropriate action. You're in a fire? You help others out, problem solved. Someone's apartment destroyed? You get her to a hotel, immediate problem solved. You can't handle your mother enjoying a hookup? No solution, short of changing your emotions, a slow process. Problems that can be solved are less likely to haunt you.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Timemaster on 23 May 2016, 23:11
From Crisis to Crisis? Sounds a lot like DC Comics, doesn't it? Am I right or am I right?

A DC comic? Definitely "Identity Crisis"  :-D

I don´t think Clinton is making a show in panel three. I rather suppose that recapitulating the event last night and his sisters relaxed reaction to it sends pictures to his inner eyes he´d rather prefer to forget. So I think he´s just shivering.

TM
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 23 May 2016, 23:19
That went down more or less as expected.

Has he checked in with Brun yet?

Whoa Chad is friggin 21!?!
Genetics are so unfair. Here I am, 23, 5'6'' and looking like a kid by comparison.
Looking older when young generally indicates that one will also look older when older, so take it as a blessing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 24 May 2016, 01:08
Whoa Chad is friggin 21!?!
Genetics are so unfair. Here I am, 23, 5'6'' and looking like a kid by comparison.
Looking older when young generally indicates that one will also look older when older, so take it as a blessing.

Exactly this. I'm twenty four and can easily pass for seventeen. I'm shorter, don't have facial hair, and have what my friends call "babyface syndrome". I used to hate it, but now I've settled with this precise rationale; when my friends and I are fifty, they'll look their age and I won't. It's a pain at the start, but babyface syndrome is a long con, my dude. It always pays off on the other end.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 24 May 2016, 01:13
Whoa Chad is friggin 21!?!
Genetics are so unfair. Here I am, 23, 5'6'' and looking like a kid by comparison.
Looking older when young generally indicates that one will also look older when older, so take it as a blessing.

Exactly this. I'm twenty four and can easily pass for seventeen. I'm shorter, don't have facial hair, and have what my friends call "babyface syndrome". I used to hate it, but now I've settled with this precise rationale; when my friends and I are fifty, they'll look their age and I won't. It's a pain at the start, but babyface syndrome is a long con, my dude. It always pays off on the other end.

Can confirm, because I am at the opposite end of this. I always looked a few years older than I was, and when I was 14 or 16 or even 20, that was great. Currently at 29, I've been mistaken for being in my forties. Not constantly, but often enough to make me very, very sad. Even people who don't go that far usually tend to assume I'm in my mid-thirties or something.

The only silver lining is that a big part of this is likely due to my becoming bald very early in my life, so hopefully when I'm 40 people will not assume I'm 55 or something. Hopefully.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 24 May 2016, 01:36
I'm still laughing at (emphasis is mine): "Well, if she wants to hook up with 21 year old guys who're bad at math, that's her prerogative."

The horror!

Hey! Some people have standards, just sayin' ...  8-)

(Hat-tip to the inimitable Danielle Corsetto (http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comic/gws221) ...)


As for genetics: I was 32 the last time I was asked for ID, and ...
... Nope, I'm not sad about that AT ALL!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 24 May 2016, 01:53
I'm still laughing at (emphasis is mine): "Well, if she wants to hook up with 21 year old guys who're bad at math, that's her prerogative."

The horror!

I wonder: Is this is jealousy? Claire has been able to get a relationship, his Mom has someone to scratch her itches... Hell, even Chad, who Clinton seems to regard as a muscle-headed moron, has got someone! However, he hasn't. There was this one girl who he liked but she gave him the "I'm kind of busy right now" line (what, being a MSc student) and... well, it's hard not to be a little bitter about things like that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Wildroses on 24 May 2016, 02:23
I'm still laughing at (emphasis is mine): "Well, if she wants to hook up with 21 year old guys who're bad at math, that's her prerogative."

The horror!

I was coming to make a comment like this. I really got the impression Clinton thinks the fact his Mum picked someone bad at math is as bad as his mother picking someone who is 21. Where are your standards, Mum? Geez...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: swapna on 24 May 2016, 04:21
I don't think Clinton's being jealous or anything, he's just shocked - his mom picked the guy he was tutoring (of course he thought she'd at least go for somebody smarter..)

I also don't think Chad is being rude for inserting himself in Mrs Augustus' life: He calls her babe, and she doesn't protest. That relationship isn't new, and she probably doesn't hide him from anybody beside her children, and how could he know of that particular relation? Although.. if they do have the same surname (they might not, if Mrs. Augustus got back to her maiden name and Clinton kept his father's), and they do have the same shade of red as haircolour, he might really not be the sharpest tool in the box.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2016, 04:28
if Mrs. Augustus got back to her maiden name
Or if she kept it from the start. Did we ever learn her name when Marten ate her pancakes?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 24 May 2016, 05:09
Nope. We've been calling her "Mrs. Augustus" or "Clairemom" in the absence of any specific data. I'm hoping she at least acquires a first name at some point.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Wildroses on 24 May 2016, 06:51
I'm kind of hoping we find out Clairemom's name when Clinton goes back to his home and Chad is there saying: "Clinton, dude! I had no idea [name] was your mum! Small world huh? Why didn't you stay last night? Come on, let's go get some coffee and catch up."

Chad's complete lack of shame in walking to the front door in his underwear because he wanted to know who was at the door makes me wonder if Chad has been such a long term fixture her children were the only important people in her social circle Mrs Augustus hadn't introduced him too.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2016, 06:52
Caling her Mrs. Augutus is pretty shitty, I think.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 24 May 2016, 07:25
I picture Claire going "bartender?  she?  you helped her find a place?  who is this woman?  why haven't I met her?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2016, 08:33
She just apologized for meddling. She'll probably give him a few hours of privacy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 24 May 2016, 09:00
You people talking about baby face, I'm 23, and this year alone, I've been cast in two plays as a pre-pubescent child. I amazed several cast members/cast members' parents by being old enough to drive. Last year, I had a woman accuse me of having a fake ID when I tried to buy beer.

I'm fine with looking young, I just want to look old enough for people to stop assuming I'm a child.

I know it'll be nice later, but right now, I'm in the place where it sucks.



Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 24 May 2016, 09:38
I just realized the similarities in Clinton's reaction to his mum sleeping with someone he knows/tutored and Pam's reaction to Michael sleeping with her mum (The Office).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 24 May 2016, 11:43
I'm still laughing at (emphasis is mine): "Well, if she wants to hook up with 21 year old guys who're bad at math, that's her prerogative."

The horror!

Unless she also wants Chad to do her taxes. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 May 2016, 11:48
You know, this comic is actually rather telling about Claire's actual views on casual sex.

She's not actually judgmental about it, she was just jealous of Marten's one night stand, when she Wasn't Judging™ Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 24 May 2016, 12:02
I just HAD to link this http://www.last.fm/music/Little+Richard/Good+Golly,+Miss+Molly/Baby+Face (http://www.last.fm/music/Little+Richard/Good+Golly,+Miss+Molly/Baby+Face)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 24 May 2016, 13:35
Looks like Claire is on the express train to hipster-town, sad. Also makes it very tricky to get a useful job in the real world.

What?

Whoa CHad is friggin 21!?!
Genetics are so unfair. Here I am, 23, 5'6'' and looking like a kid by comparison.

He's also a drawing.

But then, there are 15 year olds that look like him.

I'm still laughing at (emphasis is mine): "Well, if she wants to hook up with 21 year old guys who're bad at math, that's her prerogative."

The horror!

"Geez Clinton what's the problem, I'm 21, she's 47, she's only six years older than me."
"Oh that's right I never did finish tutoring you, did I?"

You know, this comic is actually rather telling about Claire's actual views on casual sex.

She's not actually judgmental about it, she was just jealous of Marten's one night stand, when she Wasn't Judging™ Marten.

Coming this fall to NBC... the new comedy drama starring some asshole from Gilmore Girls... Judging Marten.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: bhtooefr on 24 May 2016, 13:52
"Geez Clinton what's the problem, I'm 21, she's 47, she's only six years older than me."
"Oh that's right I never did finish tutoring you, did I?"
You know, I wanted to make that joke, but couldn't come up with a way to make it that came off right. Kudos.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 24 May 2016, 14:16
starring some asshole from Gilmore Girls... Judging Marten.
Now I'm genuinely trying to figure out if Marten would be played by Dean, Jess or Logan (Sam Winchester, Peter Petrelli, or Cary Agos from Supernatural, Heroes, and The Good Wife, respectively).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 24 May 2016, 18:02
You know, this comic is actually rather telling about Claire's actual views on casual sex.

She's not actually judgmental about it, she was just jealous of Marten's one night stand, when she Wasn't Judging™ Marten.

I thought it was more telling about how the characters align.  Claire sets herself up as chaotic, taking things as they come.  Clin-ton sets himself up as lawful, catching a slacker porking his mom is a wrong to be righted.

From Crisis to Crisis? Sounds a lot like DC Comics, doesn't it? Am I right or am I right?

 :clairedoge:

(I accidentally posted this on last week's discussion thing. Quite embarrassing.)

From Crisis to Crisis?  Sounds like a thrilling political porno.

Pizza guy:  Your total comes out to $15.99.
President:  Congress slashed my budget.  Is there another way I can pay for it?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 May 2016, 20:50
Hmm!

Claire's so utterly Lawful when it comes to marital fidelity and library usage, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 24 May 2016, 20:53
Hmm.  Claire and Clin-ton both seem neutral-good.  Even having the same overall alignment won't keep them from clashing at times.  Damn, I'll have to look to see if there's a QC character alignment thread.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 24 May 2016, 21:12
Good, he didn't forget, he just hasn't made it to the hotel yet. And Brun's introduction to the rest of the cast is now delayed by 6 months of real time and 2 days of comic time.

Jeph sure is HARPING about that HARPOON, isn't he? Maybe he should write a metal song about it- for the HARP.  :claireface:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 May 2016, 21:54
Maybe it's for the best that he doesn't mention the harpoon.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Mad Cat on 24 May 2016, 22:11
Why would Claire be excited about meeting her own mom?

*rereads strip*

Oh. *bonks head on post*
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 24 May 2016, 22:14
Good job pointing out 'the thing' to Claire. I think she's going to need a lot more reminding of it though... Also.. Don't you have a comb anywhere? Dammit man, that side hair is really starting to bug me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TheCollector on 24 May 2016, 23:08
Good job pointing out 'the thing' to Claire. I think she's going to need a lot more reminding of it though... Also.. Don't you have a comb anywhere? Dammit man, that side hair is really starting to bug me.
What're you crazy? It's not only the no glasses, he also looks a hell of a lot better with that side hair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 24 May 2016, 23:09
Actually, Clinton, I'm fairly sure that what you're describing is called 'being an elder sibling', especially in the context of a younger sibling's personal life!

That said, don't we all do things like that? Some of us are better at forethought than others but, in the end, we mostly think "I want..." first and then find ourselves racing to fix the resulting problems! At least Claire's selfish impulses seem to be mostly in the area of "I want to help!"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 24 May 2016, 23:54
I still want to see Claire meet Brun.

And nice going there Clinton for pointing out 'The Thing' to her.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 May 2016, 00:18
Claire's comb ran off to join the Foreign Legion rather than face another day trying to straighten her hair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: DashaBlade on 25 May 2016, 00:28
I think the best thing ever would be an arc where, at some point, Brun and Bubbles hang out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: St.Clair on 25 May 2016, 01:53
To be fair, that's a very common thing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Technoir on 25 May 2016, 04:47
So, if Claire and Clin-Ton are twins (possibly identical at birth?), why does Claire have significant freckling, and Clin-Ton has none?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: dexeron on 25 May 2016, 04:51
They're not twins.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2277
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 25 May 2016, 05:11
I think the best thing ever would be an arc where, at some point, Brun and Bubbles hang out.

That would be easy for Jeph. He wouldn't have to write dialogue.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Technoir on 25 May 2016, 05:35
They're not twins.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2277

oh. well that explains that, then. :-) Creepiest non-twin lookalikes EVAR.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 25 May 2016, 06:54
Note to Jeph: does he NEED to mention the harpoon?  Didn't it get left in the fire?  All we see she managed to save was the cuckoo clock.
Besides, if he mentioned the harpoon then Claire would DEFINITELY go with.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Eastrim on 25 May 2016, 07:55
(Also, epic foreshadowing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2217).)
I never really understood why it's so verboten to ship the characters when Jeph does so regularly, both in the sense of writing their relationships and writing characters who are shipping the other characters. Both the board and Jeph act like it's some kind of offense against the material.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 25 May 2016, 08:02
Well he does call the shots with regards to what happens.  I've had ideas of what COULD happen and they happen to be totally different than what DOES happen.  Does that bum me out?  No.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 25 May 2016, 08:03
@Eastrim,

I think that it should be appreciated that Tai in Strip 2217 was arguably being deliberately written as a parody of the shippers amongst Jeph's fanbase.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 25 May 2016, 08:06
Clinton is right, but it would be cool if Claire gets to meet Brun eventually. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 25 May 2016, 08:27
I never really understood why it's so verboten to ship the characters when Jeph does so regularly,

History; in the years up to 2010 the discussion got so unpleasant that Jeph was threatening to close the board down completely until the mods clamped down and instituted a new era.  Now for sure, the shipping wasn't the only thing which led to this, but it was clearly a part of it.  It's better this way - trust us!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 25 May 2016, 08:30
Actually, no matter their individual strengths, weaknesses and ... respective "things", their inter-sibling communication isn't half bad.

I shudder to think how this conversation would play out between me & my sistermonster. Lets say that "sibling-induced self-awareness" is not really our strong suit.

I guess its safe to say that if "the talk" only involved harpoons, everybody who knows us would consider that the "Phew! This could have gone a lot worse"-scenario ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 25 May 2016, 08:43
My siblings and I barely even speak.  I'd love to have their kind of reaction[1], but c'est la vie.


[1] Okay, that's a bit of an exaggeration.  I've come to the point where I don't care enough to try to improve things, but there still is an occasional longing.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 25 May 2016, 09:01
Yeah, to be honest pretty much all of the interaction between myself and my own sister is the pair of us insulting each other.

Which is still better than when we were kids and constantly fought like cats and dogs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 May 2016, 09:09
(Also, epic foreshadowing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2217).)
I never really understood why it's so verboten to ship the characters when Jeph does so regularly, both in the sense of writing their relationships and writing characters who are shipping the other characters. Both the board and Jeph act like it's some kind of offense against the material.

It is, after all, a strip about relationships and we're here to speculate.

One way to look at it is that they're Jeph's characters and he gets to decide what they do.

Another is to look at the spectrum from well-grounded speculation ("Dale and Marigold are squabbling so hard, it may foreshadow getting together") to Hannelore slashfic at the other extreme.

Shipping that violates the orientations of the characters disrespects the characterization. Jeph can tease us with Marten/Steve in gag strips but if we do something like that it should be with our own comic strips.

Does that help?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 May 2016, 09:57
Clinton overreacting again it would appear.
think the general ick factor comes from our general American prudishness combined with an emphasis on general body shaming, along with several other societal  factors, resulting in never wanting to see our parents naked.

Most baby boomers can't wrap their heads around the concept of non-sexual nudity.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 25 May 2016, 10:11
They're not twins.

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2277

oh. well that explains that, then. :-) Creepiest non-twin lookalikes EVAR.
Conversely, my and my brothers don't even look related (unless our parents are with us). My older looks like a Brit, my younger brother looks like a Swede, and I look like I'm half German half [insert pretty much any light brown, red, or yellow ethnicity here].
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Technoir on 25 May 2016, 10:19
My brother and I have a pretty good relationaship.  However, our sister is a disciple of the culture of victimhood, which pisses us off to no end.  We pretty much avoid her except at holiday family dinners.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: DSL on 25 May 2016, 10:27
Perhaps Clin-ton has a point, and even a good one, but it's somewhat obviated by he and Claire doing the exact opposite (she happy about "Go Mom!" and he squicking and squawking about it because it makes him uncomfortable) in the immediately preceding strip. Not slamming the writing; people are totally that way. Three fingers pointing back at you, and all that. Be interesting to see if Jeph expands on that as part of the Claire-Clinton dynamic.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 25 May 2016, 10:44
Perhaps Clin-ton has a point, and even a good one, but it's somewhat obviated by he and Claire doing the exact opposite (she happy about "Go Mom!" and he squicking and squawking about it because it makes him uncomfortable) in the immediately preceding strip. Not slamming the writing; people are totally that way. Three fingers pointing back at you, and all that. Be interesting to see if Jeph expands on that as part of the Claire-Clinton dynamic.

Good point about him not wanting Claire to tag along while checking on Brun?

I think that's simply good judgement on his part: 
a) Claire could use some practise 'letting people figure it out for themselves' (though I hasten to add that I think her 'meddlesomeness' seems to stem from a genuine impulse to help people)
b) From what he knows about Brun, it's safe to assume that the less unknown variables she's confronted with, the more comfortable she'll be. (Regardless of the cause of her ... pointed approach to social interaction)

And lastly, judging from the 'fire-arc', he actually can come into his own when left to his own devices (Emphasis on 'can' ...).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 25 May 2016, 10:54
To be honest, it does seem like Clinton (fireworks incident not withstanding, he was younger) has a pretty decent head on his shoulder in crisis situations... until it involves interpersonal relations. We've seen it in his dealings with Hanners, Emily, Claire and his mom. Maybe it's just the women in his life? But that doesn't really hold water, because he has so far been pretty level headed around Brun. Though that is a very small sample size so far.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Skewbrow on 25 May 2016, 12:25
That may be simply because Clinton has no emotional investment on Brun - at least not yet (many forumites seem to expect something to grow out of that, but we shall see). OTOH Hanners is a problem to him the way the porchlight is a problem to a moth (and I may be projecting more than I care to admit here).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Reaver on 25 May 2016, 12:43
It's a sign of how far gone I am that reading the title of the strip ("From Crisis to Crisis") immediately made:

"Washington cannot be left alone to his devices."

Pop into my head.

It's too late for me.  Save yourselves!

THE GREATEST THING HE CAN DO FOR THE REVOLUTION IS GOING BACK TO PLANTING TOBBACCO IN MOUNT VERNAN >v
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 25 May 2016, 15:34
Actually, if he could see what was happening in our time at the moment he'd probably wonder why he bothered.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: improvnerd on 25 May 2016, 15:59
I always picture him going to the White House, asking to speak to the current president, and then making a terrible, terrible faux pas.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 25 May 2016, 17:56
Next thing you know, Claire will use a public bathroom without checking to see if it's okay with all the cisfolk first.

Why would Claire be excited about meeting her own mom?

*rereads strip*

Oh. *bonks head on post*

I thought it was interesting that Claire assumed her mother was dating a woman.   :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: DrBear on 25 May 2016, 18:18
Chad's complete lack of shame in walking to the front door in his underwear because he wanted to know who was at the door...(snip)
If I was built like that , that's all I'd ever wear,
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 25 May 2016, 18:42
My talks with my sister tend to be very one-sided, since she died stillborn three years before I was born...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 May 2016, 19:04
WRTO nothing in particular, I'm looking forward to a strip at Coffee of Doom where Emily is teaching Brün how to make banana smoothies.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 25 May 2016, 19:31
You mean Brun.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Random832 on 25 May 2016, 19:37
It always bothers me when there's a big solid color area that doesn't work in the 256-color PNG format that Jeph uses for some reason. Especially with the weird not quite random but not orderly patterns it makes.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Indicible on 25 May 2016, 22:37
Isn't renter's insurance mandatory in the US?
If not, Americans and their weird relationship with mandatory things keep baffling me.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: wlewisiii on 25 May 2016, 22:39
Isn't renter's insurance mandatory in the US?
If not, Americans and their weird relationship with mandatory things keep baffling me.

Not required. I had to drop mine two years ago because I could not afford it anymore.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 25 May 2016, 22:52
Isn't renter's insurance mandatory in the US?
If not, Americans and their weird relationship with mandatory things keep baffling me.

Sometimes it's the building owners who require it.  If it's an apartment complex run by some property managing company then they usually require it, but Brun was living over a bar so the landlord may not have been much of a stickler for it or other safety features. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 25 May 2016, 22:53
Bubbles could use a roommate who won't try to talk to her.

>or other safety features. 
Like the sprinkler system that should have prevented total loss.

I wonder how much she owned. Even the minimum set of clothes and household tools can be difficult to replace, more so if your place of employment just burned down.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/uv.png)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 25 May 2016, 22:54
Yeah.  Had Contents Insurance since I'm renting here but had to drop it as it was more than I could afford.

Pathos can be pretty pathetic sometimes
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 25 May 2016, 22:59
Oh, Brun! What a horrible thing to happen to someone! :-(

Today's strip reinforces in my mind that Brun was a bottom-of-the-heap person. Tending bar at a dive bar (and living above it as the live-in security guard/out-of-hours gate-person) was probably the best she could get and that probably only because she was cheap! So, now she's got nearly nothing. A very, very trying few days are likely ahead as she tries to obtain duplicates of important documents and somewhere semi-secure to stay.

Clinton was tactless in the way he put it but, yes, this is not a day one should confront on less than two coffees.

The time has definitely come to beg one of his contacts to let her stay with them until she's back on her feet.

P.S.: I find it hard to sleep in hotel rooms for the first few nights too. A few hours and then I wake up to toss and turn a little more!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 25 May 2016, 23:19
Brun's hair shows Jeph's anime influence today with an ahoge (http://animanga.wikia.com/wiki/Ahoge) as part of her bedhead.  I've also been wondering if her eyebrows are from FLCL (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=flcl+eyebrows&client=opera&hs=ltq&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjW36qAjPfMAhVnK8AKHZCwCDcQsAQIHA&biw=1268&bih=623).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 25 May 2016, 23:37
Brun's hair shows Jeph's anime influence today with an ahoge (http://animanga.wikia.com/wiki/Ahoge) as part of her bedhead.  I've also been wondering if her eyebrows are from FLCL (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=flcl+eyebrows&client=opera&hs=ltq&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjW36qAjPfMAhVnK8AKHZCwCDcQsAQIHA&biw=1268&bih=623).

This confused me because I'd never before seen the word 'bedhead' used to refer to anything other than the panel at the head of a bed.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 25 May 2016, 23:46
Really? Basically just means someone's messy hair after having just woken up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TheCollector on 25 May 2016, 23:49
Y'know, I'm not sure why no ones even considered this thus far, but Brun was the only one working at the bar, she lives above the bar, the fire fighters and whoever else tell her these things, and she doesn't have renters insurance. Is it at all possible that she owned the bar and wasn't just an employee.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 26 May 2016, 00:17
This confused me because I'd never before seen the word 'bedhead' used to refer to anything other than the panel at the head of a bed.

I've certainly seen it used as part of an advertising campaign for hair-styling products (and in the title of today's strip), but I'm not sure I've actually heard anyone say it IRL.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 26 May 2016, 00:18
Y'know, I'm not sure why no ones even considered this thus far, but Brun was the only one working at the bar, she lives above the bar, the fire fighters and whoever else tell her these things, and she doesn't have renters insurance. Is it at all possible that she owned the bar and wasn't just an employee.
That's initially what I thought when I read it to. As far as I read, she's not making a sarcastic quip about not having renters insurance, she's pointing out that she's not a renter. (And doesn't have insurance.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 00:28
Really? Basically just means someone's messy hair after having just woken up.

Yes, I did work that out once I realised it wasn't a reference to hotel furniture. I just hadn't come across it before.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: anahata on 26 May 2016, 02:01
Y'know, I'm not sure why no ones even considered this thus far, but ... is it at all possible that she owned the bar and wasn't just an employee.

You are not the only one to have thought that. I guess we'll find out, eventually, if it matters.

Either way it looks like she now has nothing in the world and needs help. Realistically I'd expect her at this point to be thinking about who she could call.
We don't know what friends or family she has, other than Clinton who she's only just met and the regular bar customers who aren't likely to be much help.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: JimC on 26 May 2016, 02:28
...and the regular bar customers who aren't likely to be much help.
If you can get them together they'd at least have a whip round (that's english for a money collection, not the sort of thing Marten's mom used to do) and get some cash together, and probably bar owners would do something.

When my house went up I got given various old clothes, collection at work, room on a friends sofa for a couple of weeks while I got sorted out. Plus she said she had friends currently out of town. But we don't want to be too rational if it spoils the plot do we?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Masterpiece on 26 May 2016, 04:27
Dammit Jeph, I really like brunbrun~
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 04:46
That's initially what I thought when I read it to. As far as I read, she's not making a sarcastic quip about not having renters insurance, she's pointing out that she's not a renter. (And doesn't have insurance.)

For what it's worth, I didn't think she was being sarcastic, or pointing out anything. I think she just didn't know what Clinton was talking about ("Renters insurance, what is that?").
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 26 May 2016, 04:49
Yeah.  Had Contents Insurance since I'm renting here
Was it questionable?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: aliensporebomb on 26 May 2016, 04:52
Poor Brun.  Clin-ton, please help her!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 26 May 2016, 04:54
That's initially what I thought when I read it to. As far as I read, she's not making a sarcastic quip about not having renters insurance, she's pointing out that she's not a renter. (And doesn't have insurance.)

For what it's worth, I didn't think she was being sarcastic, or pointing out anything. I think she just didn't know what Clinton was talking about ("Renters insurance, what is that?").

That was my take too - she had never even considered the concept before, and suddenly realizes how really great it would have been to have that yesterday.

For what it's worth, I don't think she owned the bar. Or the building it was in. I think she was an employee of the bar and rented the apartment above because it was convenient. Now she's unemployed and homeless.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 05:04
Or the apartment accommodation was a part of the job package.

Yeah.  Had Contents Insurance since I'm renting here
Was it questionable?

You'd probably have to declare that.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 26 May 2016, 08:59
If Brun were the bar owner, she'd almost certainly have insurance on it. If she had a mortgage on the place, the bank would require insurance. Even if she owned it outright, she'd almost certainly have it insured. But she strikes me as far more transient than that, which means she's down to whatever the fire dept. saved, her clock, and, possibly, a bank account. If there's no bank account she's probably headed for a homeless shelter.

If Clinton really wants to be a mensch, he could ask Clairemom about Brun staying in the spare room while she looks for another bartending gig and a place to live. It'd beat the hell out of a homeless shelter, even if it means listening to CM and Chad making loud whoopee.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 26 May 2016, 09:37
Can one of the resident US natives explain Jeph's use of "pathos" to me?

I feel like I'm missing smth. in differing cultural contexts - e.g. there's a difference in the use of "pathetic" and it's German translation "bemitleidenswert" (worthy-of-pity/empathy). IME, Germans would use "bemitleidenswert" in the sense that a person objectively qualifies for ('is worthy of-') sympathetic empathy ('Mit-Leid' literally means 'co-suffering') - e.g. their lot is such that they are above relativism of the "others have it harder"-type.
The focus is on the victim and their suffering. There is no implicit connotation of them being at fault for their lot - I've never heard "bemitleidenswert" spoken through a sneer (*).  If anything, there's an implicit exhortation to 'take pity with them' in the connotation-cloud.

"Pathetic", on the other hand, seems to indicate ... much of the same, yet I've frequently heard it spoken/written with a scornful, even condescending note? As if the speaker was angry with the sufferer for 'evoking pity/demanding sympathy from them', or contemptuous for bringing themselves into a situation where they evoke pity.

It's not that Germans don't victim-blame with the worst of them, or are above "Schadenfreude" (Ha! Ha!) - it just means that use of the term "bemitleidenswert" would indicate (amongst other things) an affirmation by the speaker that such feelings are objectively inappropriate in that specific context - that the speaker would feel you are a bad person if you expressed such feelings in that context - whereas the particular use of "pathetic" I've pointed out above seem to indicate quite the opposite, in fact.

With that in mind - what does "pathos" mean here? That Clinton would feel compelled to feel empathy/sympathy with Brun's lot? Or that he would feel angry with her for not having renters insurance?

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(*) Though I hasten to add that this has been changing recently - Some (young) people have started using "Opfer" (Victim) as a slur. Unabashed victim-blaming of the purest sort. Blaming victims for being victims ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 26 May 2016, 09:40
Pathos is here used in its original meaning from classical Hellenic literature: Words and events that invoke in the audience and are meant to communicate from the source text intense emotions, primarily negative ones such as grief.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Truec on 26 May 2016, 10:39
Hmmm, in the event that Brun isn't the owner of the bar, does she have grounds to sue the owner for the fire?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mikmaxs on 26 May 2016, 11:04
Hmmm, in the event that Brun isn't the owner of the bar, does she have grounds to sue the owner for the fire?
Or the manufacturer of the extinguisher, since it didn't work.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: wlewisiii on 26 May 2016, 11:23
Hmmm, in the event that Brun isn't the owner of the bar, does she have grounds to sue the owner for the fire?
Or the manufacturer of the extinguisher, since it didn't work.

Depends.
1) What was the actual cause of the fire? Wiring? Cig in the trash? A lightnig strike on a TV antenna? Etc ad nausum?
2) Was it something that could have been prevented by, say, normal regular maintenance? If so was that maintenence put off to an unacceptable degree out of some form of negligence? Or was it what insurance companies refer to as "an act of god"?
3) Fire extinguishers need maintenance and annual inspection. Did the extinguisher get inspected in the proper time frame? Was the failure due to manufacturer issues or maintenance issues? Most importantly, was there any negligence involved and if so, to what level did it rise to?
4) Lawyers are _expensive_. Brun has nothing right now and that, more than anything, is what always does in even the most legitimate of suits.

In the end? No, she will not be suing anyone unless Hannelore takes up her cause.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 26 May 2016, 11:26
And were that the case, if Hanners made a quick call to her mum, everything would be taken out without the bother of a court case
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: JimC on 26 May 2016, 11:29
"Pathetic", on the other hand, seems to indicate ... much of the same, yet I've frequently heard it spoken/written with a scornful, even condescending note?
Multiple meanings... As well as the meaning you describe 'pathetic' has another meaning with shades of inadequate and unacceptable ('I was offered a pathetic 300 dollar insurance settlement, when it was easily worth a thousand') , hence your scornful/condescending note. This may be a fairly recent development.  But I've never come across this kind of feeling being attached to 'pathos'.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 26 May 2016, 11:34
Pathos is here used in its original meaning from classical Hellenic literature: Words and events that invoke in the audience and are meant to communicate from the source text intense emotions, primarily negative ones such as grief.

So Clinton means "It's too early in the morning to rip my shirt and holler at the Gods for the evil that befalleth Humankind"? And Jeph adds "There's never a good time to rip your shirt and holler at the Gods for the evil that befalleth Humankind"!

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Now I'm even more confused - Why point that out? Of course there's never a good time to rip your shirt and holler at the Gods when faced with tragedy? For starters, once you're done, the tragedy is still tragic - plus you've ruined a perfectly good shirt & managed to look like an idiot?
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 26 May 2016, 12:57
eh, given the nature of the comic and past similar incidents I expect that Brun will get a settlement from someone, or a new place to live/job by the end of the week. Jeph has never been interested in showing characters dealing with the annoyances and issues around financial troubles. They tend to be wrapped up quickly and neatly, and really only serve to generate plot lines and character growth.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 26 May 2016, 14:32
(Also, epic foreshadowing (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2217).)
I never really understood why it's so verboten to ship the characters when Jeph does so regularly, both in the sense of writing their relationships and writing characters who are shipping the other characters. Both the board and Jeph act like it's some kind of offense against the material.
I can't speak for others, but it only really bugs me if the character is WAY OoC or if they're dropped into a super toxic relationship (usually with a fan chatacter or a self-insert character). The OoC issue can be mediated with a sizable and well written character arc that accounts for the personality change.

Other than that, it has to do with conflicting headcanons, conflicting opinions/egos/personalities,  and an unnerving amount of your-kink-not-my-kink. And some people just hate crack-pairings. At least, that's what I've garnered from tumblr when posts discussing how to deal with the problematic fans of some fandom or another come across my dash (mostly for Undertale).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 16:47
I am no linguist, nor am I an etymologist*, so take my words with a grain of salt...

My understanding is that 'pathetic' in the sense of 'inadequate' or 'wretched' is a relatively modern affectation. The earlier sense of the word, and the one that I think is intended in the comic, is that of 'evoking intense pity or grief'.

Think Tchaikovsky's Pathétique symphony.

https://youtu.be/3ebQYH6EpJ8

* From the ancient Saxon etya (where our word for eat comes from) which means "to swallow", and the Latin mal which can mean either 'bad' or 'difficult'. Hence, the study of that which is hard to swallow.


So Clinton means "It's too early in the morning to rip my shirt and holler at the Gods for the evil that befalleth Humankind"? And Jeph adds "There's never a good time to rip your shirt and holler at the Gods for the evil that befalleth Humankind"!

Yes, exactly.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 26 May 2016, 17:49
I am no linguist, nor am I an etymologist*, so take my words with a grain of salt...

...

* From the ancient Saxon etya (where our word for eat comes from) which means "to swallow", and the Latin mal which can mean either 'bad' or 'difficult'. Hence, the study of that which is hard to swallow.

Ah ... so that's why one has to take it with a grain of salt!

As to the meaning of 'mal' ...

(http://i.imgur.com/XTInLC0.jpg?1)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Storel on 26 May 2016, 17:51
Brun's hair shows Jeph's anime influence today with an ahoge (http://animanga.wikia.com/wiki/Ahoge) as part of her bedhead.

This confused me because I'd never before seen the word 'bedhead' used to refer to anything other than the panel at the head of a bed.

I've always heard the panel at the head of a bed called a "headboard", never a "bedhead." Is that a translation from some other language than English?

As far as I read, she's not making a sarcastic quip about not having renters insurance, she's pointing out that she's not a renter. (And doesn't have insurance.)

Like others, I thought she was repeating the phrase slowly as an expression she'd never heard before.  Like, she had no idea there WAS such a thing as "renter's insurance". Perhaps a question mark at the end of her phrase would have made it clearer, if that was Jeph's intention.

If Brun were the bar owner, she'd almost certainly have insurance on it. If she had a mortgage on the place, the bank would require insurance. Even if she owned it outright, she'd almost certainly have it insured. But she strikes me as far more transient than that, which means she's down to whatever the fire dept. saved, her clock, and, possibly, a bank account. If there's no bank account she's probably headed for a homeless shelter.

If they hadn't specified there was only "one box" of her belongings they were able to save, I'd have bet that they found the harpoon amid the wreckage.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 26 May 2016, 17:56
Like others, I thought she was repeating the phrase slowly as an expression she'd never heard before.  Like, she had no idea there WAS such a thing as "renter's insurance". Perhaps a question mark at the end of her phrase would have made it clearer, if that was Jeph's intention.
The lack of question mark makes sense, in that I agree with your assessment.  She seems as though she's dealing with a new concept and may even be sounding it out.  A "?" would likely indicate uptalk which would not normally be used in this scenario.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 26 May 2016, 18:09
I may be going out on a limb, but I don't think she'll get her security deposit back.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 20:31
Brun's hair shows Jeph's anime influence today with an ahoge (http://animanga.wikia.com/wiki/Ahoge) as part of her bedhead.

This confused me because I'd never before seen the word 'bedhead' used to refer to anything other than the panel at the head of a bed.

I've always heard the panel at the head of a bed called a "headboard", never a "bedhead." Is that a translation from some other language than English?

Yes, probably. That would be British. Itself deriving from Old English.  :wink:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: xanadu84 on 26 May 2016, 20:54
Posting on here for the first time because this Brun arc is something i'm relating to quite a bit. I know that speculation that Brun has Autism seems to meet with some negative reactions, but honestly, i'm getting constant flashbacks to when I was dating someone with Autism. From her intro and onward...

Brun seems to have a mental script in place regarding angry patrons, which she is applying to Clinton. Angry patrons cause trouble and get in fights. She has a system for dealing with that. It's probably pretty effective overall, but gets a bit awkward when dealing with certain nuances of what kind of anger, and what kind of person. She doesn't appear to be malicious. Shes just smart, but has to handle certain social interactions by rote. I can practically see her comparing Clintons face to what she has memorized as, "Anger", and acting accordingly.

Her apology regarding threatening Clinton appears to me to be indelicate, but also sincere. She seems to care about how other people perceive her, and being a, "Nice" person, but doesn't have a tone most of us are used to. This repeats itself a few time, acting in a way that is nice enough, but seems to ignore a lot of social expectations.

Rote memorization of some social scripts seems to be common in Autism. Brun does this, and explains them explicitly.

Brun has some truly meaningful insights regarding social interactions between Clinton and Claire, and it seems to be the kind that only come from looking past unhelpful social structures, and looking at the rational underpinnings underneath. This is a great strength I experienced getting to know people with Autism, and it seems to be present in Brun.

Where I really started to think she is Autistic, and not just having some set of personality traits, was after the fire. I could just feel myself instinctively itching over seeing those blaring sirens. I could feel my concern about Brun becoming overstimulated, losing the ability to speak, and stimming, maybe focusing on some repetitive behavior. Not freaking out or breaking down, just being so overwhelmed that its hard to process everything. Then she stopped speaking, even though she seemed pretty capable, and fixated on that clock. The clock could have been a coincidence, maybe that's not stimming. but it was weird to see her react exactly the way I thought.

She doesn't care that expectations are that she shorten her name to Hilde instead of Brun. She says that she isn't great with emotions, but she seems to be a sensitive and caring person, its like she just expressed them differently. Not exactly a DSM criteria, but feels very familiar. Same with not being able to sleep in a hotel because its weird. Hardley a criteria for Autism, but pretty consistent with a dislike of change.

I hope that Brun is revealed to have Autism, because she seems to be a pretty damn good representation, and we need more of that.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 May 2016, 21:07
Interesting (and disturbing) fact concerning whaling.
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 26 May 2016, 21:22
Posting on here for the first time because this Brun arc is something i'm relating to quite a bit. I know that speculation that Brun has Autism seems to meet with some negative reactions, but honestly, i'm getting constant flashbacks to when I was dating someone with Autism. From her intro and onward...

(snip)

I hope that Brun is revealed to have Autism, because she seems to be a pretty damn good representation, and we need more of that.

Thanks for that detailed set of observations. I too had thought from early on that Brun might be on the Autism spectrum, but since I know next to nothing about Autism, I figured I'm better off not commenting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 26 May 2016, 21:27
"Sufficiently butt-covering"  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 21:28
Claire: 1.02e7

I would like to have the ability to articulate an ellipsis.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: mustang6172 on 26 May 2016, 21:31
Anti-whaling?  Who could be opposed to a source of clean burning, renewable lamp oil?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TheEvilDog on 26 May 2016, 21:34
Anti-whaling?  Who could be opposed to a source of clean burning, renewable lamp oil?

I'm going to go with "the animals that have to provide that lamp oil" for 200 points.

Also Ishmael.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 26 May 2016, 21:38
Anti-whaling?  Who could be opposed to a source of clean burning, renewable lamp oil?

I imagine the whales would.

Also Captain Kirk.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Near Lurker on 26 May 2016, 21:45
More importantly, we've kind of found out the hard way, it's not all that renewable.

Plus, if we're just talking about lamp oil, surely vegetable oils are a better bet...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 26 May 2016, 21:57
Kerosene is easier to come by and doesn't smell as bad.

My hurricane lamp hasn't been used for many, many years, mind (not even sure where it is now, or whether I still have it).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 26 May 2016, 22:05
More importantly, we've kind of found out the hard way, it's not all that renewable.

It'd be quite renewable if it were only small populations doing it.  We as a species tend to spam-out our genes faster than the replacement rate of whales.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 26 May 2016, 22:33
Welcome, xanadu84!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 26 May 2016, 23:15
Like others, I want to know how to enunciate an ellipsis!

I wonder how fluently Brun can read back from her mental index cards the history of whaling? I also wonder how difficult she found it to associate those facts with anything in her personal reality.

Also, would I be right to say that Boston was a whaling port way back when?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 26 May 2016, 23:46
@Eastrim - You weren't here during The Great Shipping Wars  *Shudder*


And I bet Brun even knows where her towel is.


Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 26 May 2016, 23:59
~

Like jheartney said, that's some really nice insight - thanks! I also didn't/don't know a lot about autism, like, the kinds of ways it specifically shows and the behavioral patterns, and hearing you say Brun represents it well is good to hear. Maybe I'll learn more about autism as Brun's character is shown more, which would be cool.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: katsmeat on 27 May 2016, 00:29
Given her clothing style and nautical interests, I look forward to a character trying to call her "Captain Sweatpants".

(Assuming Big Bang Theory exists in the  QC universe.)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Skewbrow on 27 May 2016, 02:26

Also, would I be right to say that Boston was a whaling port way back when?

May be?  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Whalers) :-D They did move a bit further South later.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 27 May 2016, 02:39
Yes, probably. That would be British. Itself deriving from Old English.  :wink:

None the less, we don't call the headboard a bedhead either.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 27 May 2016, 03:27
...
And I bet Brun even knows where her towel is.

You sass she's a hoopy Frood?

Well, that explains some things ...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TinPenguin on 27 May 2016, 03:48

Also, would I be right to say that Boston was a whaling port way back when?

May be?  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Whalers) :-D They did move a bit further South later.

Boring answer is yes, they were one of the last ports in the USA still whaling in the 20th century.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: JimC on 27 May 2016, 03:57
None the less, we don't call the headboard a bedhead either.
Its called bedhead where I am in England. Or maybe by my age group. Many dialects in Britain!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 27 May 2016, 04:48
Heh!  My dictionaries agree with you... shows what I know; but I've never come across that usage.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: sitnspin on 27 May 2016, 06:49
Bedhead is a common term where is am from, Midwestern USA.

As my grandmother has said to me in the past: I never saw someone put much effort into looking like they don't put any effort into their hair.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 27 May 2016, 07:37
Yeah, that's what bedhead means to me too, not a headboard.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 27 May 2016, 08:35
So who is Brun most likely to stay with, of the current cast? I can see Clinton asking around before eventually realizing that the only one left is Hannelore, and not only having to face his worst social situation, but having to give Hanners the hardest suggestion of her life.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 27 May 2016, 08:40
It's worth noting that several of Jeph's early sketches of Brun that he posted on his Twitter feed show her with a very angular character that could be Hanners.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 27 May 2016, 10:58
Given her clothing style and nautical interests, I look forward to a character trying to call her "Captain Sweatpants".

(Assuming Big Bang Theory exists in the  QC universe.)
If there is a god in the real universe that won't happen.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: TinPenguin on 27 May 2016, 12:01
Our Lord Jephzibah is not so malevolent.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 27 May 2016, 13:22
Except when he is 
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Post by: TinPenguin on 27 May 2016, 13:23
Except then, yes. But otherwise!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Perfectly Reasonable on 27 May 2016, 14:00
Like others, I want to know how to enunciate an ellipsis!

Not so hard if you can deal with umlauts.  Protip: It's all in the eyebrows.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 27 May 2016, 14:32
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 27 May 2016, 15:43
For those wondering why Claire was not mentioned on the floofiness scale above Brun, it's for the same reason you don't measure sunshine in lumens.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: DonInKansas on 27 May 2016, 16:24
Huge unanswered question:  what's in her left pocket?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Tova on 27 May 2016, 17:50
You get three guesses.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: celticgeek on 27 May 2016, 18:00
First guess:   The One Ring
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Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: brasca on 27 May 2016, 18:16
So who is Brun most likely to stay with, of the current cast? I can see Clinton asking around before eventually realizing that the only one left is Hannelore, and not only having to face his worst social situation, but having to give Hanners the hardest suggestion of her life.

That could be interesting.  I think Brun would get along best with Bubbles, but if Hannelore wants to take the next step in overcoming her social anxieties a roommate would be good, but it remains to be seen if Brun has any incompatible habits. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: HauntingPoem on 27 May 2016, 19:33
I think Brun would most likely stay with Sara. She is never around anymore. So she would be rather unintrusive.... (bad joke is bad)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Emoroffle on 27 May 2016, 23:28
This was a good strip. I was wondering about tum and the question was answered in a timely manner. The comic can end now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Skewbrow on 27 May 2016, 23:49
For those wondering why Claire was not mentioned on the floofiness scale above Brun, it's for the same reason you don't measure sunshine in lumens.

Quite. That's why we use logarithmic scales for many things: earthquakes, sound/signal intensity, celestial body brightness, Claire level floofiness...

But Pintsize floofiness would then be minus infinity and ruin the joke.

Can there exist something exceeding Claireheaded floof? The cardigans Hanners, and more recently Emily, have brought up?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 28 May 2016, 03:07
The logarithmic floof scale (dBf):

-infinity dBf: Pintsize
0 dBf: Steve
3 dBf: Marten
4 dBf: Faye
8 dBf: Brun
9 dBf: Hanners
10.4 dBf: Shebly
100 dBf:  :claireface:
1000 dBf: Emily's cardigan (once it has you, you're trapped forever)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 28 May 2016, 05:01
For those wondering why Claire was not mentioned on the floofiness scale above Brun, it's for the same reason you don't measure sunshine in lumens.
...

But Pintsize floofiness would then be minus infinity and ruin the joke.
...

Perversity coefficient regularizes divergences in complex floofiness manifold ...

... put another way: Nature abhors infinite Pintsize.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 28 May 2016, 06:51
For those wondering why Claire was not mentioned on the floofiness scale above Brun, it's for the same reason you don't measure sunshine in lumens.
...

But Pintsize floofiness would then be minus infinity and ruin the joke.
...

Perversity coefficient regularizes divergences in complex floofiness manifold ...

... put another way: Nature abhors infinite Pintsize.

Actually, thinking about it some more, Pintsize wouldn't be -infinity dBf. He would be very close to zero, but there would be some microscopic sources of floof on Pintsize. For example, vacuum fluctuations on the surface of Pintsize's body would introduce an extremely small amount of floof. Plus you'd have to consider all the Johnson noise on his electronics. I'd therefore estimate Pintsize's floof level to be at least at the Planck level, i.e. > -330 dBf.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Milayna on 28 May 2016, 08:20
So who is Brun most likely to stay with, of the current cast? I can see Clinton asking around before eventually realizing that the only one left is Hannelore, and not only having to face his worst social situation, but having to give Hanners the hardest suggestion of her life.

That could be interesting.  I think Brun would get along best with Bubbles, but if Hannelore wants to take the next step in overcoming her social anxieties a roommate would be good, but it remains to be seen if Brun has any incompatible habits.
Bubbles and Brun might both be taciturn but that's about where it ends...putting someone with low social skills, whose default is to view strangers as potential threats that need to be managed - possibly with harpoons - will not mesh well with someone who's certain that everyone views her as a threat and will run away or attack her.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Skewbrow on 28 May 2016, 08:23
Like others, I want to know how to enunciate an ellipsis!

Not so hard if you can deal with umlauts.  Protip: It's all in the eyebrows.

Given that you get umlauted versions of vowels by moving your tongue forward I posit that you get the ellipsis by sticking your tongue out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Storel on 28 May 2016, 09:27
One last comment on German from Mark Twain, describing a character who tended to speak in very long sentences:

Quote from: A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
She had exactly the German way; whatever was in her mind to be delivered, whether a mere remark, or a sermon, or a cyclopedia, or the history of a war, she would get it into a single sentence or die. Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.

Actually, with the really long sentences, there'll be more like five or ten verbs in his mouth, but Twain was a master of understated exaggeration.  8-)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 28 May 2016, 10:42
One last comment on German from Mark Twain, describing a character who tended to speak in very long sentences:

Quote from: A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court
She had exactly the German way; whatever was in her mind to be delivered, whether a mere remark, or a sermon, or a cyclopedia, or the history of a war, she would get it into a single sentence or die. Whenever the literary German dives into a sentence, that is the last you are going to see of him till he emerges on the other side of his Atlantic with his verb in his mouth.

Actually, with the really long sentences, there'll be more like five or ten verbs in his mouth, but Twain was a master of understated exaggeration.  8-)

ISWYDT. ;)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Case on 28 May 2016, 13:42
Like others, I want to know how to enunciate an ellipsis!

Not so hard if you can deal with umlauts.  Protip: It's all in the eyebrows.

Given that you get umlauted versions of vowels by moving your tongue forward I posit that you get the ellipsis by sticking your tongue out.

:-P :-P :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: rob49152 on 01 Jun 2016, 21:57
I am new here, but I've read CQ for a long long time now. Hi everyone!!

This arc with Clinton and Brun made me check the forums and want to chime in. My niece is on the Asperger spectrum. She totally reminds me of Brun (minus those wicked eyebrows!!). Her temperament, reactions, sarcasm, lack of communication when over stimulated by events and her surroundings are pretty much 100% spot on. In fact about the 4th comic she was in I started seeing it. There are other little things like her lack of making eye contact. Focusing on one thing (like the clock) to help distract from whats going on. Not understanding something like insurance because she's never had anyone mention it before.

There are other things that might give it away like not liking the texture of something when touching it, or not liking personal contact (hugging and closeness), saying some phrase over and over when agitated to the extreme, then finally melt downs when plans change.

If she does have Aspergers I have to hand it to Jeph. I've always liked his characters because they seem like real people. And this arc is making me extremely over protective of Brun because I can see my niece so clearly in her character (minus the wicked eyebrows!!)

Did I mention the eyebrows?

P.S. WHAT HAPPENED TO BARRY?!?!?!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3226 to 3230 (25 - 27 May 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 01 Jun 2016, 23:42
Welcome, new person!