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Title: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 17 Jul 2016, 10:36
From what Jeph has been saying on his Twitter feed, there's a good chance that we'll be getting some guest or filler strips some time soon until he gets back from vacation. I have a feeling that this will start happening this week but that's mostly a guess.

Anyway, we've been seeing a lot less of Marten and his misadventures of late, mostly due to the focus on Brun, Faye and Bubbles. So, why not try to reinvigorate his character in some way? But how to do so...? I think that I'm going for option 2 myself, although options 1 and 3 could profitably be part of it. All three would feed into Marten's strengths and the things that would make him happy. I would argue, at the very end, it was Marten's quest for happiness and meaning that lie at the core of his character arc.

What do you  think?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 17 Jul 2016, 11:55
I went with option 1 since I'm a sucker for a happy ending. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: wlewisiii on 17 Jul 2016, 13:10
I picked one. But I like a combo of 1 & 3-happily married rock stars.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 17 Jul 2016, 13:43
Marten Reed, action hero. Specifically post-apocalyptic sort-of-antihero, because that's how I roll.

Only "sort of" an antihero because it's Marten, after all.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: comicalArchitect on 17 Jul 2016, 13:49
I picked one. But I like a combo of 1 & 3-happily married rock stars.

It would be a little hard for both to really live their dreams, though. Marten's requires moving around a lot, and Claire's requires staying put.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 17 Jul 2016, 14:59
#2 actually seems the most realistic.. well, maybe if it wasn't "famous," but just that it kicks things off a bit more. Maybe he has an article he writes for the school paper or something, gets to organize events, gets noticed by some bigger company, etc.

I really would like to see a bit more Marten. Maybe it's just because I only recently (?) started the comic, so all the stuff before then was read and happened a lot faster from my perspective, and so I wanna see more stuff happening for him when in reality this might be normal.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: jheartney on 17 Jul 2016, 15:18
The reason not much is happening with Marten is he's satisfied with work, and is in a blissful relationship, which are utterly boring things to tell stories about. If you want Marten stories, he either has to start having trouble with Claire, or trouble with life.

Seriously, though, the reason we've had so much Bubbles/Faye and Clinton/Brun/Renee is these are characters with issues and edges. The latter group seems especially ripe for eventful days ahead; Renee is a walking ball of suspicion, Brun is the enigmatic fulcrum, and Clinton is executing a character arc where he moves from overbearing to something else.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 17 Jul 2016, 15:22
President Marten Reed
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 17 Jul 2016, 19:21
I want all of these things to happen.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: pwhodges on 18 Jul 2016, 01:23
Nice to see Tai, even if only a guest Tai...  It's been a while.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: ElfDestruct on 18 Jul 2016, 01:26
Justice Rains from Above!

...needs to be the title of this guest strip if it isn't already, and Faye's sure got the Zarya look down pat right now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Jul 2016, 01:29
FWIW, this is more-or-less how I have always imagined what Bubbles POV looks like! Meanwhile, I think that Faye should get on the 'phone to the Chinese ambassador to apologise for the volleyball that's about to burst out of the ground somewhere in his country!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 18 Jul 2016, 03:10
1's good, but being a superhero or a congressman could be hilarious. Pintsize could make a great distraction for the obstructionists on the right and left, while Marten and the others actually get things done.

Said distraction would presumably be blackmail photos of them hanging out with Pintsize and the antics they get up to.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 18 Jul 2016, 04:13
FWIW, this is more-or-less how I have always imagined what Bubbles POV looks like!

Standard Terminator vision. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 18 Jul 2016, 05:14
Just saying that the Patreon post on Saturday is not today's strip -- It's the start of a new arc so I hope it gets posted after the guest week!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Akima on 18 Jul 2016, 06:46
FWIW, this is more-or-less how I have always imagined what Bubbles POV looks like! Meanwhile, I think that Faye should get on the 'phone to the Chinese ambassador to apologise for the volleyball that's about to burst out of the ground somewhere in his country!
I don't know where this weird idea came from that if you dug down in the USA you'd come up in China. The antipodes of most of country are at the bottom of the Indian Ocean (http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/antipode/). If the girls are on holiday on Hawaii, it will be the ambassador for Botswana (http://www.lovebigisland.com/quick-and-remarkable-facts-about-hawaii/antipodes/) to whom Faye would have to apologise.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: oddtail on 18 Jul 2016, 06:50
FWIW, this is more-or-less how I have always imagined what Bubbles POV looks like! Meanwhile, I think that Faye should get on the 'phone to the Chinese ambassador to apologise for the volleyball that's about to burst out of the ground somewhere in his country!
I don't know where this weird idea came from that if you dug down in the USA you'd come up in China. The antipodes of most of country are at the bottom of the Indian Ocean (http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/antipode/). If the girls are on holiday on Hawaii, it will be the ambassador for Botswana (http://www.lovebigisland.com/quick-and-remarkable-facts-about-hawaii/antipodes/) to whom Faye would have to apologise.

I think it's just an established trope in fiction that is meant to be silly - China being a very large and very faraway country, which leads to it ending up being used as a shortcut for "you end up in a completely different place".

"It will go through and end up in the middle of an ocean" doesn't have the same ring to it.

I've seen the same trope in European stories/media, too. So it's not really about geometric accuracy, I guess. Maybe the tunnel is at an angle ;)

It's not like the idea of something going through the entire planet and emerging unscathed on another side of it is realistic in itself. What with the hot, semi-liquid mantle and even hotter planet core...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jul 2016, 07:03
Just saying that the Patreon post on Saturday is not today's strip -- It's the start of a new arc so I hope it gets posted after the guest week!
Jeph commented that it will be. We're a week ahead! (maniacal laugh)

Also, discussing the guest comic without violating the shipping rule seems...difficult.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Jul 2016, 07:34
Also, discussing the guest comic without violating the shipping rule seems...difficult.

FWIW, I think that the stress Dora is under is making her regress to her high school years, at which time 'girfriend' and 'boyfriend' were slurs to use to describe those who help the unpopular or unathletic to win anyway.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Mordhaus on 18 Jul 2016, 07:40
That ball made it nowhere near to China. That ball is dead.

Also, we needed a Top Gun high five low five.

(http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2014-02/enhanced/webdr04/24/16/anigif_enhanced-29109-1393277222-4.gif)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: WareWolf on 18 Jul 2016, 09:53
It's not like the idea of something going through the entire planet and emerging unscathed on another side of it is realistic in itself. What with the hot, semi-liquid mantle and even hotter planet core...

I think it was Gregory Benford who used this situation in an SF story once. Super-powerful aliens had used a "cosmic string" to cut a hole through the center of a planet and the protagonist either fell or was pushed in. I forget how it ended, but he spent some time yo-yoing back and forth through the center.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: WareWolf on 18 Jul 2016, 09:56
The reason not much is happening with Marten is he's satisfied with work, and is in a blissful relationship, which are utterly boring things to tell stories about. If you want Marten stories, he either has to start having trouble with Claire, or trouble with life.

Seriously, though, the reason we've had so much Bubbles/Faye and Clinton/Brun/Renee is these are characters with issues and edges. The latter group seems especially ripe for eventful days ahead; Renee is a walking ball of suspicion, Brun is the enigmatic fulcrum, and Clinton is executing a character arc where he moves from overbearing to something else.

I have to say, I'm not really taking any kind of shine to Brun or Renee. I want more Faye/Bubbles, with extra Hanners, please.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Oenone on 18 Jul 2016, 11:09
It's not like the idea of something going through the entire planet and emerging unscathed on another side of it is realistic in itself. What with the hot, semi-liquid mantle and even hotter planet core...

I think it was Gregory Benford who used this situation in an SF story once. Super-powerful aliens had used a "cosmic string" to cut a hole through the center of a planet and the protagonist either fell or was pushed in. I forget how it ended, but he spent some time yo-yoing back and forth through the center.

If you're into it, Cixin Liu's Three Body Problem talks about super tiny tiny quantum computers doing that, primarily as a precursor to an alien invasion.

It's honestly a genre changer and I really recommend it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 18 Jul 2016, 12:45
I don't know where this weird idea came from that if you dug down in the USA you'd come up in China. The antipodes of most of country are at the bottom of the Indian Ocean (http://www.weathergraphics.com/tim/antipode/). If the girls are on holiday on Hawaii, it will be the ambassador for Botswana (http://www.lovebigisland.com/quick-and-remarkable-facts-about-hawaii/antipodes/) to whom Faye would have to apologise.

This is not restricted to the US. Here in Denmark digging through the earth to China is also used as a figure of speach. Actually you would need to start in Argentina to end up in China. From here it would be in the vicinity of Solomon Islands.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Mr_Rose on 18 Jul 2016, 13:16
Bugs bunny started it. Or at least popularised it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 18 Jul 2016, 13:19
And he always missed that left turn at Albuquerque.


The Spike from hell.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Skewbrow on 18 Jul 2016, 13:44
Antipodes (http://www.antipodesmap.com/). My head sticks out of the ocean about 1000 km South East from New Zealand.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 18 Jul 2016, 14:49
I'd be southwest of Perth (by quite a bit, in the Indian Ocean).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: WareWolf on 18 Jul 2016, 19:50
Antipodes (http://www.antipodesmap.com/). My head sticks out of the ocean about 1000 km South East from New Zealand.


LOL. Love this.

Reporting from the ocean west of Australia.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: WareWolf on 18 Jul 2016, 19:52
It's not like the idea of something going through the entire planet and emerging unscathed on another side of it is realistic in itself. What with the hot, semi-liquid mantle and even hotter planet core...

I think it was Gregory Benford who used this situation in an SF story once. Super-powerful aliens had used a "cosmic string" to cut a hole through the center of a planet and the protagonist either fell or was pushed in. I forget how it ended, but he spent some time yo-yoing back and forth through the center.

If you're into it, Cixin Liu's Three Body Problem talks about super tiny tiny quantum computers doing that, primarily as a precursor to an alien invasion.

It's honestly a genre changer and I really recommend it.

I have this in the TBR Queue. I'll move it up.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 18 Jul 2016, 20:50
I'm in the Indian Ocean about equidistant from Africa, India, and Australia.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 18 Jul 2016, 21:09
It seems even in guest comics that we can't escape Faye and Bubbles. I'm willing to bet at least two of the upcoming guest strips feature Brun, too. Ah well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 18 Jul 2016, 23:13
New Comic!

Okay, now it seems to make sense: Punchbot is actually an overgrown Pop-Up Pirate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_Pirate)!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 19 Jul 2016, 01:49
Todays comic was hilarious! Bubbles gotta be kidding, seeing her withna pirate hook would be super funny. This strip reminds me of early QC
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: USS Martenclaire on 19 Jul 2016, 01:54
....I...I googled duck penis. D:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 19 Jul 2016, 03:29
New Comic!

Okay, now it seems to make sense: Punchbot is actually an overgrown Pop-Up Pirate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_Pirate)!

Looks more like a Rock 'Em Sock "Em Robot to me. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: JimC on 19 Jul 2016, 03:34
I don't know where this weird idea came from that if you dug down in the USA you'd come up in China
Why would said hole would be geometrically straight precisely through the centre? Assuming its just "somewhere vaguely the other side" then China is by size alone one of the more likely land destinations.

(fixed the quote tag -Method)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: neurocase on 19 Jul 2016, 03:44
I don't know where this weird idea came from that if you dug down in the USA you'd come up in China
Why would said hole would be geometrically straight precisely through the centre? Assuming its just "somewhere vaguely the other side" then China is by size alone one of the more likely land destinations.

Strangely, I have friends in Australia who said they grew up with the same premise; that if one dug deep enough, they'd come out in China.

(fixed the quote tag -Method)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 19 Jul 2016, 04:09
The Discworld books address this phenomenon. The Agataen Empire (their China equivalent) is situated on the Counterweight Continent, radially on the opposite side of the disc from most of the other locations in the stories.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 19 Jul 2016, 13:56
Method, why are you replying to posts by editing them? And what is a "quote tag?"
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 19 Jul 2016, 14:01
The Discworld books address this phenomenon. The Agataen Empire (their China equivalent) is situated on the Counterweight Continent, radially on the opposite side of the disc from most of the other locations in the stories.

But if you dig straight down all the way on the Discworld, you'll wind up on top of an elephant (if you don't fall through to the turtle).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Method of Madness on 19 Jul 2016, 14:42
Method, why are you replying to posts by editing them? And what is a "quote tag?"
Code: [Select]
[/quote]Both of those posts had that in the wrong place so the quotes were messed up and you couldn't tell who said what. I fixed it. The reason I mentioned that I fixed it is because it showed that I edited it, and I didn't want anyone to think that I edited actual content. All I did was delete an extra [ /quote].
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 19 Jul 2016, 14:44
He really needs Superglue for that neck of his
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 19 Jul 2016, 16:44
Method, why are you replying to posts by editing them? And what is a "quote tag?"
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[/quote]Both of those posts had that in the wrong place so the quotes were messed up and you couldn't tell who said what. I fixed it. The reason I mentioned that I fixed it is because it showed that I edited it, and I didn't want anyone to think that I edited actual content. All I did was delete an extra [ /quote].

Okay, thanks for the clarification. I was confused because you'd originally written something like "Read the quote tag" or "Check the quote tag" or something like that, which didn't make it clear that you'd done anything at all except add that remark. "Fixed the quote tag" I think I would have figured out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Case on 19 Jul 2016, 18:18
....I...I googled duck penis. D:

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/221/868/cannot_be_unseen.jpg)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 19 Jul 2016, 21:36
The Discworld books address this phenomenon. The Agataen Empire (their China equivalent) is situated on the Counterweight Continent, radially on the opposite side of the disc from most of the other locations in the stories.

You get a like purely for mentioning Discworld, to which I am a newcomer.

In other news, I forgot to actually vote until today, and of course, I voted for guest strip shenanigans. Because that is, so far, what we're getting.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 19 Jul 2016, 21:41
Yesterday's strip gives new meaning to "duck attack survivor".
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Jul 2016, 02:02
New Comic!

I don't know about anyone else. However, IMO at least, Dale does a very good job at being the 'creepy guy' and has more or less from his first appearance. The funny part of this is, of course, he does this whilst trying to be nice and normal. There is a lesson of some kind here...
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 20 Jul 2016, 02:47
May has the "any guy talking to her might be a creep" syndrome. The only medication known to help is to completely ignore her. Like a puppy she craves attention.

Dale.....dem glasses. I half expected his own eyes to be glowing by now.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 20 Jul 2016, 04:02
May is surly enough as it is so I doubt being the target of Pokemon Go players is going to improve her mood. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Storel on 20 Jul 2016, 10:56
Okay, those of you who couldn't resist googling duck penises -- what's the big deal? No pictures, please.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 20 Jul 2016, 11:01
There is one duck species where the male can use it penis to lasso a female.

Edit: link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_duck
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 20 Jul 2016, 11:12
Okay, those of you who couldn't resist googling duck penises -- what's the big deal? No pictures, please.

Answer in spoilers so those who don't want to know don't have to.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Case on 20 Jul 2016, 12:27
Okay, those of you who couldn't resist googling duck penises -- what's the big deal? No pictures, please.

Answer in spoilers so those who don't want to know don't have to.
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blt on 20 Jul 2016, 13:41
I'm with May on this one, if I randomly became a mobile Pokemon Go hub without my knowledge I'd be surly too.  Not to mention the AI Rights implications.

Then again they may have offered it to her and she agreed, just to sucker people into her Abuse Radius.  :-P
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 20 Jul 2016, 15:07
What really got to me was the mismatched corkscrew shapes.

The males are clockwise spiral, the females counterclockwise, apparently, the better to resist rape attempts.  When the female tightens the muscles that in humans would be called 'Kegels' the tissues become rigid and penetration is impossible.  Males on the other hand have developed that lightning-fast evert-and-ejaculate technique to facilitate rape; they try to get penetration before the females become aware of the attempt and tighten up those muscles. 

Man, ducks are screwed up. And . um. Down, apparently.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 20 Jul 2016, 18:31
Whoda thunk it - Elmer Fudd was right - Ducks are screwy and Rabbits are rascally.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 20 Jul 2016, 23:46
New Comic! -- By David Willis; quite a luminary!

Today, Pintsize finally meets his match. It's the unexpected downside of being able to hack into Wi-Fi streams and interface directly with cloud apps like that: you've entered the world so you've got to accept what the world does to you - A crotch kick and a spanking in this case. :-D

I doubt that Pintsize will learn his lesson; he's too resilient to common sense for that!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 21 Jul 2016, 00:18
Operative word is trying because it looks like he's getting fucked in the last 3 panels. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 21 Jul 2016, 00:21
I looked up Clefairy. Its special power is to make other pokemon fall in love with it. This only works on the opposite gender, though.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 21 Jul 2016, 00:44
Well that seems unnecessarily  heteronormative.  It seems like the people who make this thing could at least follow normal population demographics and make about 7% gay and another 7% or so bi. 

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: osaka on 21 Jul 2016, 01:16
Then again, Pokemon was created 20 years ago in the depths of some game dev studio in Japan. I'm almost surprised there are female pokemons.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 21 Jul 2016, 01:23
The gender restricton is what makes it sexual love. Without it, it could be the kind of love you feel for a pet.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 21 Jul 2016, 04:47
I am not surprised that there are female pokemon. The devs make stuff on what the demographic likes. There is no conspiracy.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Jul 2016, 04:54
The history of gender in Pokémon is interesting; limitations on the part of the game engine only allowed for genders to be introduced in the 2nd generation games (Silver and Gold versions). Prior to that, the only way to have gender was to have totally seperate evolutionary trees (Nidoran, for example, and the later Mr Mime/Jynx and Miltank/Taurus).

What I find interesting is that, whilst the male Nidoran is larger than the female, the female starts off with far more offensive moves. I wonder what that says about the Japanese cultural attitude towards the female gender as a philosophical concept?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Squiddlywinx on 21 Jul 2016, 06:29
Marigolds in excess.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: sitnspin on 21 Jul 2016, 07:04
The gender restriction is what makes it sexual love. Without it, it could be the kind of love you feel for a pet.

Considering who I regularly have sex with, I'm going to have to call BS on this one.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Jul 2016, 08:28
The gender restricton is what makes it sexual love. Without it, it could be the kind of love you feel for a pet.

You might want to check that. Because sexual love happens regardless of gender.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 21 Jul 2016, 09:11
Then again, this is a game about BREEDING monsters. 

So maybe the people who wrote it think it doesn't count unless it produces offspring.

Pokemon Go is a mess.  Bulgarian kids have been chasing them in minefields, a couple of people walked off cliffs while looking at their phones instead of where their feet were going, people after Pokestops have done breaking & entering, they've interrupted funerals, there've been car crashes where people were trying to get to monsters that had appeared nearby, the Holocaust Museum has had its lectures & ceremonies interrupted, some cathedral in Boston has continually had problems with people breaking in, a couple of trespassing kids got shot, somebody fired a rifle at a car in Florida where they thought the people inside were drug dealers looking for a stash of dope, (but he was a lousy shot, thank goodness; he only got one of the tires).

This game seems like about fifty lawsuits waiting to happen. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 21 Jul 2016, 09:17
I figure that Nintendo are going to end up looking at the business end of a nine-figure class action lawsuit for negligence and failure of duty of care. It wouldn't surprise me if the game were closed down for a few months until their people can rewrite the servers with 'red zone' databases of danger areas where it shouldn't indicate capures are available and the like. I also expect that there will be a revised EULA that will be about a thousand pages long and basically be the first time a company has tried to indemnify itself against the real world/virutal world confusion that some games seem to breed in players.

Even then, it will be a case of 'shutting the door after the horse has bolted' and Pokémon Go may turn out to be a fiancial and legal disaster no matter how much money it makes.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 21 Jul 2016, 09:24
Incidentally, as someone who has worked with livestock way more than I'd have liked to, I can tell you in no uncertain terms that homosexuality is not a human invention. 

Idiots have ranted about how homosexuality is unnatural.  That is unbelievably clueless.  What would be unnatural, seriously, would be for it to NOT happen at all. 

It's like lying without wearing a tie.  Sure, most of the time people who have to lie to get their job done wear ties as a warning to everyone else.  But it doesn't mean they aren't allowed to tell the truth sometimes, and it doesn't mean nobody else gets to lie.  The world just ain't that simple.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 21 Jul 2016, 09:32
I don't really buy too many of those stories... There was a news story here recently about two people crashing their cars while playing Pokemon Go. The article conveniently left until the end the little fact that they were both drunk (because unfortunately, in Wisconsin a drunk driver wrecking their car isn't news).
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Jul 2016, 09:51
The trouble being with those stories.. Most of them are not cases where Ninendo or Niantic are at all responsible. Playing a game does not excuse the player for not being safe or breaking the law. That's on the player. Even in cases where people are not breaking the law but are being disruptive, that's still on the player. The case where Pokemon were found in the Holocaust Museum is true, and Niantic probably would be better off re thinking some areas as no go zones for matters of safety and respect. But on the other hand, if someone quietly captured the pokemon there, didn't make a scene and didn't complain about it there would be no problems. And it could possibly get people to go to places they normally wouldn't go like museums and learn new things. More than anything else, that seems to be the big advantage to Pokemon Go. Getting people to leave their comfort zones and explore the world around them.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 21 Jul 2016, 10:58
The gender restricton is what makes it sexual love. Without it, it could be the kind of love you feel for a pet.

You might want to check that. Because sexual love happens regardless of gender.
I know. My point still stands.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 21 Jul 2016, 11:02
The gender restriction is what makes it sexual love. Without it, it could be the kind of love you feel for a pet.

Considering who I regularly have sex with, I'm going to have to call BS on this one.

I do not understand that. I am gay myself, if you really must know. What has that got to do with anything? This Pokemon is always straight. That would not matter if the "love" in question was not the sexual kind.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Neko_Ali on 21 Jul 2016, 11:05
Your post comes off as 'Only straight sex counts'. That's why people are being hostile to you. Because you made it a general statement, not specifically related to Pokemon breeding. Remember that other people can't actually read your mind and don't know your intent beyond what you actually type out.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: JimC on 21 Jul 2016, 11:44
Most of them are not cases where Ninendo or Niantic are at all responsible. Playing a game does not excuse the player for not being safe or breaking the law. That's on the player. Even in cases where people are not breaking the law but are being disruptive, that's still on the player.
That is doubtless the company's spin. However to my mind ethically that position is at best grossly irresponsible, and morally highly dubious. Obviously you disagree.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Case on 21 Jul 2016, 12:38
Then again, this is a game about BREEDING monsters. 

So maybe the people who wrote it think it doesn't count unless it produces offspring.

Pokemon Go is a mess.  Bulgarian kids have been chasing them in minefields, a couple of people walked off cliffs while looking at their phones instead of where their feet were going, people after Pokestops have done breaking & entering, they've interrupted funerals, there've been car crashes where people were trying to get to monsters that had appeared nearby, the Holocaust Museum has had its lectures & ceremonies interrupted, some cathedral in Boston has continually had problems with people breaking in, a couple of trespassing kids got shot, somebody fired a rifle at a car in Florida where they thought the people inside were drug dealers looking for a stash of dope, (but he was a lousy shot, thank goodness; he only got one of the tires).

This game seems like about fifty lawsuits waiting to happen.

And last week, three guys bumbled into a live fire exercise (http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Der-Norden/Uebersicht/Pokemon-Spieler-geraten-in-Schiessuebung) on NATO's Bergen-Hohne Training Area  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen-Hohne_Training_Area) in the Lüneburger Heide.   :psyduck:
(Note that in that training area "live-fire exercise" can include Tanks doing realistic battle drills ...)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 21 Jul 2016, 14:45
Most of them are not cases where Ninendo or Niantic are at all responsible. Playing a game does not excuse the player for not being safe or breaking the law. That's on the player. Even in cases where people are not breaking the law but are being disruptive, that's still on the player.
That is doubtless the company's spin. However to my mind ethically that position is at best grossly irresponsible, and morally highly dubious. Obviously you disagree.

Or people could actually take responsibility for their own actions.  This is why end user agreements are a book long. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Zebediah on 21 Jul 2016, 15:05
If companies were held liable any time someone did something stupid, dangerous, or illegal while using their products, there would be damned few companies left making things.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 21 Jul 2016, 15:12
Then you get stupid Lawsuits like the McDonalds Coffee one.  I think it's gonna take someone buying the farm in a spectacular way and taking several others with him or her before anything really serious is done.


Somedays I just wanna smack Pintsize

With a 60lb Sledgehammer.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blt on 21 Jul 2016, 17:28
Then you get stupid Lawsuits like the McDonalds Coffee one.

I've come to understand that the McDonald's Coffee case was a bit more legitimate than most people believe.  The coffee wasn't just hot, but obscenely hot. The fact that we think it's so frivolous is just good spin by McD's part.

Source: http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

On PokemonHo, I don't think they're legally liable for what stupid people do while playing the game.  e.g. With all the trouble and fatalities we're having with texting and driving are phone hardware companies, telecom providers, or app creators being held liable?  What about drinking?  Surely the liquor companies should take responsibility for the property damage, assaults, trespassing, drunk driving casualties that happen when people use their product?  Or maybe they're morally bankrupt too.

At the end of the day people are responsible for their own actions. Will they make some updates to make things safer?  Probably, that's a responsible business practice, but they're not accountable for careless people.[/rant]

Edit: because my phone went wonky partway through posting. I should sue.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Oenone on 21 Jul 2016, 19:10
Then you get stupid Lawsuits like the McDonalds Coffee one.  I think it's gonna take someone buying the farm in a spectacular way and taking several others with him or her before anything really serious is done.


Somedays I just wanna smack Pintsize

With a 60lb Sledgehammer.

Actually, the coffee was so hot it fused her labia together. It was not at all a frivolous law suit.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: chaospersonified on 21 Jul 2016, 21:57
Second degree burns, man. Burned through the skin and into the tissue beneath. People like to point and make fun, but once you've seen the photos of the damage that coffee did, you're not going to say anything about that lawsuit being frivolous, especially considering she didn't ask for nearly as much money as she got.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 21 Jul 2016, 22:13
Yes.  She should have known the coffee was hot.  And if it had been served at the appropriate temperature, it would have hurt for a bit and then she'd be fine.  But it was served at a dangerously high temperature, and McDonald's knew that it was far too hot for safety, and didn't care.  Because if it's kept hot it tastes fresh longer.  The woman who sued wanted legal fees and medical costs.  It's the jury that decided that McDonald's was so irresponsible they had to be hit for punitive damages as well.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 22 Jul 2016, 00:15
I sit corrected


And nice jpb Jeph.  Your own Guest Comic on your own Comic  :-D
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Jul 2016, 00:18
Who is the Jeph Jacques guy? Jeez! Talk about getting a random someone to do a guest strip! :wink:

Seriously, someone needs to sit Marigold down and deprogram her of this idea that membership of a guild or clan in a game does not affect who you are in real life! She's going to ruin the best things in her life if she doesn't learn this.

Normally, I'd suggest Momo for the job but, based on today's strip, she's sort of given up trying.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Jul 2016, 00:31
Second degree burns, man. Burned through the skin and into the tissue beneath. People like to point and make fun, but once you've seen the photos of the damage that coffee did, you're not going to say anything about that lawsuit being frivolous, especially considering she didn't ask for nearly as much money as she got.

Boo fuckin' hoo.  I've had second degree burns over a good 10% of my body, at least three times, just from working all day outdoors without sunscreen.  It was high altitude and mean ol' mister sun can get vicious if you don't have a good thick bit of atmosphere over you.  And yeah, it sucks.  My skin over that area was effectively all blisters, I got dehydrated a lot, everything that touched it hurt for the next three weeks,  my muscles under it hurt like crazy all the time, and once it started healing it was itchy and I didn't dare scratch it. It left a little scarring, and even the part that healed "right" has a whole bunch of freckles it didn't have before. 

I didn't sue anybody.  I just stayed indoors for a week and cursed my poor judgment. Which, now that I think about it, is about the same thing my dad did when he got hit by lightning.  Anyway, my dad quit fixing fences when a storm was coming in, and I quit going up into the mountains without a tube of sunscreen.  Call it a learning experience and leave it at that. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: brasca on 22 Jul 2016, 01:07
Who is the Jeph Jacques guy? Jeez! Talk about getting a random someone to do a guest strip! :wink:

Seriously, someone needs to sit Marigold down and deprogram her of this idea that membership of a guild or clan in a game does not affect who you are in real life! She's going to ruin the best things in her life if she doesn't learn this.

Normally, I'd suggest Momo for the job but, based on today's strip, she's sort of given up trying.

When they were with different factions of World of Warcraft they hadn't met yet.  Now that they're in a relationship she might have expected Dale to join whatever team she's on since Pokemon Go is a current thing.  And Dale is lucky because even though that was a compliment the implication is that Marigold's butt needed exercise. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 22 Jul 2016, 02:14
Does this strip qualify as canon?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: BenRG on 22 Jul 2016, 02:18
I'd say 'no'; Jeph actually describes it as a guest strip in his Twitter feed and says that the regular (canon) strips will resume on Monday.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 Jul 2016, 04:04
Second degree burns, man. Burned through the skin and into the tissue beneath. People like to point and make fun, but once you've seen the photos of the damage that coffee did, you're not going to say anything about that lawsuit being frivolous, especially considering she didn't ask for nearly as much money as she got.

Boo fuckin' hoo.  I've had second degree burns over a good 10% of my body, at least three times, just from working all day outdoors without sunscreen.  It was high altitude and mean ol' mister sun can get vicious if you don't have a good thick bit of atmosphere over you.  And yeah, it sucks.  My skin over that area was effectively all blisters, I got dehydrated a lot, everything that touched it hurt for the next three weeks,  my muscles under it hurt like crazy all the time, and once it started healing it was itchy and I didn't dare scratch it. It left a little scarring, and even the part that healed "right" has a whole bunch of freckles it didn't have before. 

I didn't sue anybody.  I just stayed indoors for a week and cursed my poor judgment. Which, now that I think about it, is about the same thing my dad did when he got hit by lightning.  Anyway, my dad quit fixing fences when a storm was coming in, and I quit going up into the mountains without a tube of sunscreen.  Call it a learning experience and leave it at that.

 :psyduck:
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Jul 2016, 04:42
Well that seems unnecessarily  heteronormative.  It seems like the people who make this thing could at least follow normal population demographics and make about 7% gay and another 7% or so bi.
I hope you'll forgive my ignorance. But, isn't it ~8 or 9% that's bisexual? (Blame people who don't cite sources on tumblr.)

And out of curiousity, are there any estimates for asexual, and pansexual percentages?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 22 Jul 2016, 05:07
I haven't walked as much as Marigold has. Just eight miles every day this week except yesterday, because I draw the line at walking in a giant storm when most of the city is flooded.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Jul 2016, 05:25
Then again, this is a game about BREEDING monsters. 

So maybe the people who wrote it think it doesn't count unless it produces offspring.

Pokemon Go is a mess.  Bulgarian kids have been chasing them in minefields, a couple of people walked off cliffs while looking at their phones instead of where their feet were going, people after Pokestops have done breaking & entering, they've interrupted funerals, there've been car crashes where people were trying to get to monsters that had appeared nearby, the Holocaust Museum has had its lectures & ceremonies interrupted, some cathedral in Boston has continually had problems with people breaking in, a couple of trespassing kids got shot, somebody fired a rifle at a car in Florida where they thought the people inside were drug dealers looking for a stash of dope, (but he was a lousy shot, thank goodness; he only got one of the tires).

This game seems like about fifty lawsuits waiting to happen.
At the risk of sounding like a crotchety old man, I'm pretty sure that the lawsuits with injured players as plaintiffs will likely be thrown out on the grounds of "you should have been paying attention to your surroundings." 
Lawsuits against Pokémon Go players will likely stand.

Seriously people, think about what you're doing a little harder.
* Don't play while driving.
* If there's a locked door or a closed gate, don't bother with that Pokémon.
* Read signs before entering an area.
* Listen for lectures, services, and the like.
* Be respectful.
* And stay out of cemetaries. (At least after 4pm. Most lock their gates around 5pm.)


EDIT: I should specify that I specifically meant lawsuits against Nintendo/the Pokémon Go devs.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: KOK on 22 Jul 2016, 06:17
I don't know how those special areas that attract many Pokemon Go players are placed, but whoever does it should be more careful. Not far from where I live, people are walking into a building site, night and day,  because such an area is there. Sooner or later someone will get hurt.

edit: typo
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 22 Jul 2016, 06:19
And no matter how rare that Pokemon may be, do NOT go into the parking lot of a correctional institution to try to capture one.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 22 Jul 2016, 06:25
Seriously people, think about what you're doing a little harder.
I really *do* wish that people would do that.  I *do* think that it'll get better when the game has been out longer and that the player base is a bit more clueful.

Quote
* And stay out of cemetaries. (At least after 4pm. Most lock their gates around 5pm.)
I'm not sure about other cities, since I haven't been to (most) of their cemeteries after dark, but I have been seeing Pokemon and Ingress players in the local one after about 2200 (hell, I went to grab some portal keys at about 22:30 last night).  The main gate is locked, but it *does* have a big sign on it to use the other ingress (couldn't resist) during off hours.  I don't know if Pokemon has changed things, but I have been told by others that the local police told them that even though it was technically against a city ordinance to be driving around through there to do it anyway since they liked the extra eyes. 

Thankfully, I haven't seen any player of either game traipsing over/playing on gravestones.

That said, I'm expecting something to happen within the county at some point.  I'm aware and pretty damned careful, but I am quite cognisant of how many traffic laws I break every day knowing that since I'm on a bike and will get away with it.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blt on 22 Jul 2016, 07:32
Second degree burns, man. Burned through the skin and into the tissue beneath. People like to point and make fun, but once you've seen the photos of the damage that coffee did, you're not going to say anything about that lawsuit being frivolous, especially considering she didn't ask for nearly as much money as she got.

Boo fuckin' hoo.  I've had second degree burns over a good 10% of my body, at least three times, just from working all day outdoors without sunscreen.  It was high altitude and mean ol' mister sun can get vicious if you don't have a good thick bit of atmosphere over you.  And yeah, it sucks.  My skin over that area was effectively all blisters, I got dehydrated a lot, everything that touched it hurt for the next three weeks,  my muscles under it hurt like crazy all the time, and once it started healing it was itchy and I didn't dare scratch it. It left a little scarring, and even the part that healed "right" has a whole bunch of freckles it didn't have before. 

I didn't sue anybody.  I just stayed indoors for a week and cursed my poor judgment. Which, now that I think about it, is about the same thing my dad did when he got hit by lightning.  Anyway, my dad quit fixing fences when a storm was coming in, and I quit going up into the mountains without a tube of sunscreen.  Call it a learning experience and leave it at that.

 :psyduck:

I don't follow the logic here at all. How is you not having the presence of mind to put on sunscreen and harming yourself equivalent to a company wilfully doing something that endangered their consumers just to protect their bottom line, thereby seriously harming one of their customers even sort of equivalent?

 :psyduck:

And who would you even sue?  The sun?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Jul 2016, 08:27
There are a whole population of people who experience second-degree burns several times during our lives and aren't particularly impressed. 

The reaction around Boulder to "Second degree burns" was "what, she got some blisters and now she never has to work again for the rest of her life?  That happens to dozens of people I know every year.  It's even happened to me a few times.  It's not a life-changing experience or even particularly traumatic, how the hell did anybody decide it was worth that?"

And yea, it mostly happens "for the sake of somebody's bottom line."  You go up to work, you realize after an hour or two that you forgot sunscreen, you know you'll be fired if you don't fix the damn fences anyway, and you finish the job before you go back.  Business as usual, sucks to be you.  If you don't want to deal with that kind of thing, don't ever start doing farm and ranch work.  I've also gotten stomped by bulls and cut up by barbed wire for the sake of somebody's bottom line. If you don't want to consider second degree burns for the sake of somebody's bottom line to be entirely normal, then lucky for you you weren't born there.

I don't think it's particularly reasonable for anybody to get a million bucks (literally, a living wage for life just off of interest payments!) for anything that leaves them able-bodied and not permanently disfigured.  Hell, the guy who lived down the road from me got his arm torn off by a baler and he had to go on disability worth substantially less than what that twit got for her lap full of hot coffee. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Mordhaus on 22 Jul 2016, 08:58
Doing your own guest strip during guest strip week is pretty damn Meta!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Eternal_Newbie on 22 Jul 2016, 09:04
Good excuse to play around with art styles without people acting like it's the end of the world
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Stoutfellow on 22 Jul 2016, 09:10
Stella Liebeck was 79 years old when she received third - not second - degree burns in her genital area from spilled McDonald's coffee. She was hospitalized for eight days and underwent two years of medical treatment afterwards. Comparing blisters on your back to subdermal cell-death in the groin is absurd; talk about "never having to work again for the rest of her life" is silly when applied to a 79-year-old woman; and comparing the wilful act of a conscious (albeit corporate) agent, an agent which had been officially warned about its behavior, to a force of nature is disingenuous at best.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Spoe on 22 Jul 2016, 10:48
...and comparing the wilful act of a conscious (albeit corporate) agent, an agent which had been officially warned about its behavior, to a force of nature is disingenuous at best.

And thus the point of "punitive damages." She wasn't awarded millions to cover her sustained losses – those were covered by compensatory damages of $160,000 to cover medical expenses, etc. after being reduced by 20% to cover the assigned division of blame. She needed skin grafts! She was awarded $2.7 million by the jury to punish McDonald's for their wanton acts related to the temperature of the coffee and to deter them from continuing to do so because they had knowledge of prior burn cases and no intention of doing anything about the temperature of the coffee which their own quality assurance representative testified was not fit for consumption at the temperature served.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Penquin47 on 22 Jul 2016, 10:50
There are a whole population of people who experience second-degree burns several times during our lives and aren't particularly impressed. 

The reaction around Boulder to "Second degree burns" was "what, she got some blisters and now she never has to work again for the rest of her life?  That happens to dozens of people I know every year.  It's even happened to me a few times.  It's not a life-changing experience or even particularly traumatic, how the hell did anybody decide it was worth that?"

And yea, it mostly happens "for the sake of somebody's bottom line."  You go up to work, you realize after an hour or two that you forgot sunscreen, you know you'll be fired if you don't fix the damn fences anyway, and you finish the job before you go back.  Business as usual, sucks to be you.  If you don't want to deal with that kind of thing, don't ever start doing farm and ranch work.  I've also gotten stomped by bulls and cut up by barbed wire for the sake of somebody's bottom line. If you don't want to consider second degree burns for the sake of somebody's bottom line to be entirely normal, then lucky for you you weren't born there.

I don't think it's particularly reasonable for anybody to get a million bucks (literally, a living wage for life just off of interest payments!) for anything that leaves them able-bodied and not permanently disfigured.  Hell, the guy who lived down the road from me got his arm torn off by a baler and he had to go on disability worth substantially less than what that twit got for her lap full of hot coffee.

Still not comparable.  You're the one who went up there (three times, apparently?) without sunscreen.  Your bosses didn't make you work out there without sunscreen.  They did not endanger you, you endangered yourself.

Get some coffee from a place that serves it at the proper temperature, or make your own.  Spill it on your arm.  Did you get burned?  If you did, it's mild.  First-degree.  This woman had NO reason to expect second (or third) degree burns from a cup of coffee.  McDonald's was aware that the temperature at which they served their coffee could cause second and third degree burns, because this was not the first time someone had spilled their coffee and been burned.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Morituri on 22 Jul 2016, 11:25
Okay, third degree burns is a lot more serious than second, I'll give it that.  I've known a bunch of people who got third degree burns too though; accidents with hot oil mostly.  A few got disability but most of them (all who could still walk in fact) were denied. None of them got multimillion dollar settlements.  You don't even consider filing a lawsuit unless something unusual happens. 

Erf.  I'm going to quit responding to this because I fear my responses are likely to generate more heat than light.  I will say however that down in the real world where there is absolutely NOTHING unusual about getting injured in an accident - even BADLY injured as in permanently disabling - the idea that someone who hadn't even been disabled had been taken seriously when suing, AND recovered more than twice their medical costs, read like a missive from bizarro world about someone who had some unbelievable kind of privilege or entitlement that the rest of the world just didn't get.  Bad as her experience may have been, a whole lot of people who suffered worse routinely and knew damn well we'd have been laughed at if we'd tried to sue, sort of resented it. 
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Eternal_Newbie on 22 Jul 2016, 14:15
Well, it's not her fault that quite often the law gets creatively interpreted against the employee in occupational injury cases and employers find creative ways of avoiding creating a safe workplace and dissuading employees from seeking compensation, even when creating a safe workplace (or even paying compensation) would be cheaper .
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 22 Jul 2016, 17:17
The whole company did.  And IIRC, regulators had warned them on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Gyrre on 22 Jul 2016, 17:20
Third degree burns to her crotch and lap.

Imagine that hot oil you mentioned getting spilled on your junk. Sounds pretty painful, right?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 22 Jul 2016, 19:37
I realise you've stopped responding, and yes I've refrained from posting because otherwise I would have reacted to the ignorance you've displayed with more heat than light. But I will point out that the money awarded was punitive damages, not compensatory damages, Mori. It makes all the difference in the world. Google it.

When companies recklessly endanger their customers, they will get sued. This is not because we live in a bizzaro world, nor because of some sense of "entitlement."

You're talking about accidents, presumably not the result of reckless endagerment, which is the reason they didn't get multimillion dollar awards.

Please educate yourself on the difference between compensatory and punitive damages.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Zastie on 22 Jul 2016, 20:04
Going a guest comic for your own comic is like making posts on a guest account on your own forum. Just wat.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 22 Jul 2016, 22:00
And no matter how rare that Pokemon may be, do NOT go into the parking lot of a correctional institution to try to capture one.

Oh dear. I have a horrible feeling you're not speaking hypothetically here.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 23 Jul 2016, 01:03
And no matter how rare that Pokemon may be, do NOT go into the parking lot of a correctional institution to try to capture one.

Oh dear. I have a horrible feeling you're not speaking hypothetically here.

There is a website that polls the game servers to find where Pokemon are spawning, one whose URL I don't have handy here. I put in the main entrance to our school. Yep, three Pokemon, all spawning in the parking lot.

Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 23 Jul 2016, 02:04
Relevant: https://theconversation.com/pokemon-go-puts-pressure-on-when-technology-meets-the-law-62489
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Storel on 23 Jul 2016, 12:09
And no matter how rare that Pokemon may be, do NOT go into the parking lot of a correctional institution to try to capture one.

Oh dear. I have a horrible feeling you're not speaking hypothetically here.

There is a website that polls the game servers to find where Pokemon are spawning, one whose URL I don't have handy here. I put in the main entrance to our school. Yep, three Pokemon, all spawning in the parking lot.

But a school is not a correctional institution. I understand "correctional institution" to mean a prison, jail, or at least a juvenile detention facility. I'm not quite sure why you shouldn't go into a prison parking lot to catch Pokemon -- the people parking there should be prison guards, not actual prisoners, yes? Most prisoners don't commute to work.

Putting Pokemon in a school parking lot seems like a poor idea mainly because teenagers are notoriously poor drivers, especially when distracted.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: cesium133 on 23 Jul 2016, 13:18
And no matter how rare that Pokemon may be, do NOT go into the parking lot of a correctional institution to try to capture one.

Oh dear. I have a horrible feeling you're not speaking hypothetically here.

There is a website that polls the game servers to find where Pokemon are spawning, one whose URL I don't have handy here. I put in the main entrance to our school. Yep, three Pokemon, all spawning in the parking lot.

But a school is not a correctional institution. I understand "correctional institution" to mean a prison, jail, or at least a juvenile detention facility. I'm not quite sure why you shouldn't go into a prison parking lot to catch Pokemon -- the people parking there should be prison guards, not actual prisoners, yes? Most prisoners don't commute to work.

Putting Pokemon in a school parking lot seems like a poor idea mainly because teenagers are notoriously poor drivers, especially when distracted.
IIRC, he works at a school in a juvenile correctional institution.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: blue5 on 24 Jul 2016, 11:29
Its a form of population control. Teens and their phones are zombies anyways
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Thrudd on 24 Jul 2016, 11:59
Its a form of population control. Teens and their phones are zombies anyways
Makes them prime candidates for employment in the Bureaucracy that is government services.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Nepiophage on 24 Jul 2016, 12:07
It's natural selection. Only those who are smart enough not to get run over, and don't waste all thier germ plasm on internet porn, will reproduce. So the next generation will be smarter than today's teenagers. 
This is admittedly a low base
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 24 Jul 2016, 12:46
The "Young People are stupid" meme was probably old when mentioned by Socrates.  If society was de-evolving the way people have been saying for at *least* the last two thousand years we'd have grown tails again and be back in the trees.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 24 Jul 2016, 13:16
OOK!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: hedgie on 24 Jul 2016, 13:38
Well, you're qualified to be librarian at least.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Is it cold in here? on 24 Jul 2016, 16:20
Driving into a prison parking lot, in all the places I've read about, makes your car open for searches. Don't have a cell phone on you, or a butter knife in your picnic basket! If your deer rifle is in the trunk, FSM help you. The guards might consider you a security threat unless you fit into a category they understand, such as "employee" or "volunteer". If you're there to visit a prisoner, it depends on the place, but some will treat you like an inmate, so you'd be driving into a situation of people prepared to assume the worst.

(regular user mode)Please don't ask about jwhouk's workplace. He hates to talk about it and right now has compelling reasons not to talk about it.(/)
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 24 Jul 2016, 18:03
May I gently suggest that introducing a topic in a discussion forum is highly likely to provoke discussion on said topic. So perhaps it would be a bad idea to introduce topics that you are unwilling to discuss.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: jwhouk on 24 Jul 2016, 19:16
Truth. And it is more apropos to the Pokemon Go thread. So... on to the new week.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Oenone on 24 Jul 2016, 20:16
I really love the line art on this strip
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Storel on 27 Jul 2016, 10:45
IIRC, he works at a school in a juvenile correctional institution.

Aha, that possibility had not occurred to me. Thank you!
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: JimC on 28 Jul 2016, 03:27
May I gently suggest that introducing a topic in a discussion forum is highly likely to provoke discussion on said topic. So perhaps it would be a bad idea to introduce topics that you are unwilling to discuss.
Maybe not that simple. For many of us there will be topics which we can only discuss in a limited way due to ethical limitations, especially perhaps work related ones.  If those with ethical restrictions don't contribute to those subjects at all, isn't there a risk that the only people who will discuss them are those least qualified to do so?
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Tova on 28 Jul 2016, 15:03
Do you mean SOMEONE MIGHT BE WRONG ON THE INTERNET?

HEAVEN FORFEND.

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)

If you can't discuss it, don't get involved. This is not rocket surgery.
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Kugai on 28 Jul 2016, 17:33
Or Brain Science
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Pilchard123 on 29 Jul 2016, 00:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I
Title: Re: WCDT Strips 3266 to 3270 (18th to 22nd July 2016)
Post by: Thrillho on 29 Jul 2016, 02:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THNPmhBl-8I

This is literally one of my favourite sketches of all time.