I want more of Bubbles and Faye.
The odd thing about the Faye/Bubbles arc is that the one area that is helping Bubbles "heal" from her wounds - tea time at CoD - is the one area that has triggered Faye toward relapse.
Huh. Wonder why Elliott's being so evasive about his other job.
This may be another poll with a clear winner, I am thinking.
You know, I never thought about it, but it makes sense that a thick glass beer bottle would not easily break upon contact a person's soft, mushy face. I'll file that away if it's ever relevant, which it won't be, for me, god willing.
You know, I never thought about it, but it makes sense that a thick glass beer bottle would not easily break upon contact a person's soft, mushy face. I'll file that away if it's ever relevant, which it won't be, for me, god willing.
But don't people in both real life and movies typically bash the bottle over the skull, which is neither soft nor mushy? If the belligerent bargoer used that bottle to break his nose, he wasn't being very smart.
And in real life the skull cracks more easily than the bottle most of the time. The reason why the bottle breaks in the movies are that the bottle is probably made from crystalline sugar which break very easily. See this: http://www.instructables.com/id/Fake-glass-bottleSugar-glass/You know, I never thought about it, but it makes sense that a thick glass beer bottle would not easily break upon contact a person's soft, mushy face. I'll file that away if it's ever relevant, which it won't be, for me, god willing.
But don't people in both real life and movies typically bash the bottle over the skull, which is neither soft nor mushy? If the belligerent bargoer used that bottle to break his nose, he wasn't being very smart.
Huh. Wonder why Elliott's being so evasive about his other job.
And in real life the skull cracks more easily than the bottle most of the time. The reason why the bottle breaks in the movies are that the bottle is probably made from crystalline sugar which break very easily. See this: http://www.instructables.com/id/Fake-glass-bottleSugar-glass/
Why do I think in this case that the gentle giant was more of a splatter[1] than a bouncer.
Presence, Dialogue, Control Alternatives, Protective Alternatives, and... Deadly Force.
Sometimes you have to escalate.
I'm talking nerve clusters and possibly dislocated shoulders.
As someone who's worked security at a bar we were told to simply incapacitate. Generally that means holding onto the guy and using your body weight until help arrives. However, I imagine a bouncer who's by themselves would have to deviate from that plan sometimes. I only worked big events so we could simply use numbers and throwing punches was more likely to just get someone else (or ourselves) hurt.
That's a variation of the use of force continuum I have not seen. Ours is Presence, verbal, soft hands, chemical, taser, hard hands, secondary impact, deadly force.
It's amazing how things change, yet remain the same, over time.
That's a variation of the use of force continuum I have not seen. Ours is Presence, verbal, soft hands, chemical, taser, hard hands, secondary impact, deadly force.
It's amazing how things change, yet remain the same, over time.
I'm facing a different population than you, obviously.
Finding it difficult to care about tertiary characters when there is PLOT awaiting with more central ones.How is this not plot? If anything, I'm finding this new Elliot/Brun arc more interesting than the Faye one.
Finding it difficult to care about tertiary characters when there is PLOT awaiting with more central ones.
Explicit, you think DoA doesn't have enough drama?
Any single blow hard enough to render someone unconscious is very likely to cause serious head trauma. Crippling strikes, like breaking a nose or damaging joints, is a much wiser move than attempting to knock them out cold.
Being alert to situations that could turn into violence and being there before it starts is the best way to do the job. Often you can stop a fight just by listening to people and asking nonjudgmental questions in a friendly way until one or both (or all) realize that fighting over it is stupid. Otherwise a simple reminder that it was my job to prevent fights or stop them would often convince them that it wasn't the right place or time to fight and somebody would go away angry (but under their own power and without violence). If that didn't work I'd just do what Wil is doing in this frame and tell somebody they needed to leave.
Sounds like that "door" flew off it's hinges.
Elliott's so nice. I really don't want to have him get another crush that doesn't work out because he's not a main character.
It occurs to me that Bubbles and Elliott would make a pretty darn intimidating pair of bouncers. I'm not sure how Bubbles would feel about being considered "scary' though.
Yay! ^-^Sounds like that "door" flew off it's hinges.
Mayhap it may even have suffered defenestration.
You break the bottle on something else first.
You break the bottle on something else first.
It's not always a great idea. Bottles do not break that easily on hard surfaces, either, and if you strike something with the bottle with enough force, you are likely to get fingers full of broken glass rather than anything usable as a weapon. And/or the bottle just shatters completely and you're not left with anything you can easily hold.
From what I know, it's possible to break a bottle without hurting yourself, but it's tricky. Also, an unbroken bottle is a pretty good weapon in itself, anyway. It's basically a club, and clubs can deliver more injury than most people think.
Presence, Dialogue, Control Alternatives, Protective Alternatives, and... Deadly Force.Finally registered after years of lurking to comment on this:
Sometimes you have to escalate.
1. Did Elliot accidentally kill a man last night?
2. Is he trying to flirt with Brun?
Elliott's so nice. I really don't want to have him get another crush that doesn't work out because he's not a main character.
Although in a few pages he seems, er, a better fit for her than clinton. Sorry Clinton.
That being said it would be nice if something worked out for Elliot.
That being said it would be nice if something worked out for Elliot.
Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that the Horrible Revelation has a human bouncer at all? It seems like one area where AIs have the clear edge.
It really all depends on Brun. Elliot may be interested, but unless Brun reciprocates it's just another unrequited crush. With Clinton she did seem interested. Not infatuated, but interested.If shipping was allowed, I'd ship Hannelore for Elliot. Firstly because her anxieties would need someone gentle but also manly, secondly: she's a rather tall woman herself.
That being said it would be nice if something worked out for Elliot.
(if there was shipping allowed)
I say mayhaps, is that close enough? Mayhap sounds odd, you wouldn't say perhap, would you?Yay! ^-^Sounds like that "door" flew off it's hinges.
Mayhap it may even have suffered defenestration.
I'm not the only person who says "mayhap".
Finally registered after years of lurking to comment on this:
As someone who lives in a country where not even police carry firearms(excluding the AOS*), where deadly force is only to be used reactively as a last resort to protect life, I'm experiencing major culture shock reading this. Especially as we are talking about a Bouncer aka Security Officer aka Private citizen, the idea of deadly force even being on the table caught me off guard.
I always thought mayhaps was a portmanteau of maybe and perhaps, which means mayhap and perhap are equally wrong.
The Shipping Wars almost got the forums closed down, so we tend to avoid the subject
That being said it would be nice if something worked out for Elliot.Agreed. I like Elliot A LOT better than I like Clinton. The big guy has shown his greatness several times, and deserves some happy times.
With some coaxing and a resolute seamstress I could see her in 1890's masque ball finery, china mask, black lace bonnet, silk gloves et al, rendering patrons assistance when not standing by the end of the bar, silently watching and observing.It occurs to me that Bubbles and Elliott would make a pretty darn intimidating pair of bouncers. I'm not sure how Bubbles would feel about being considered "scary' though.Bubbles has already told Faye that she is aware that some people find her intimidating. I don't think that she would be happy having a job where being scary was a key aspect of her duties. That said, I am sure that she knows how to use her sheer physical presence to deter aggression if needed to avoid violence.
With some coaxing and a resolute seamstress I could see her in 1890's masque ball finery, china mask, black lace bonnet, silk gloves et al, rendering patrons assistance when not standing by the end of the bar, silently watching and observing.It occurs to me that Bubbles and Elliott would make a pretty darn intimidating pair of bouncers. I'm not sure how Bubbles would feel about being considered "scary' though.Bubbles has already told Faye that she is aware that some people find her intimidating. I don't think that she would be happy having a job where being scary was a key aspect of her duties. That said, I am sure that she knows how to use her sheer physical presence to deter aggression if needed to avoid violence.
Oh oh oh - voice changer in the mask to make her sound like a Vorlon would be epic.
One of my favourite memories is the time I bit into a croissant expecting it to be a plain one but turned out to be full of chocolate. Simple pleasures.
Elliott's so nice. I really don't want to have him get another crush that doesn't work out because he's not a main character.
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So that arc ended rather quickly.
Welcome, Dizrupt!
There's an entire thread somewhere about what people find bizarre about others's countries.
That use of force continuum is accompanied, in training classes, by rules about when you can and cannot escalate. Private security can only use deadly force as a last resort to protect life (or prevent crippling injury) so we're not quite as bizarre as you might have thought.
The legal self-defense doctrines are part of our common heritage from England so they too are likely to make sense to you.
>I am a juvenile Corrections Officer
You seemed pretty mature to me ...
With some coaxing and a resolute seamstress I could see her in 1890's masque ball finery, china mask, black lace bonnet, silk gloves et al...
>I am a juvenile Corrections Officer
You seemed pretty mature to me ...
With some coaxing and a resolute seamstress I could see her in 1890's masque ball finery, china mask, black lace bonnet, silk gloves et al...
First I wanted to see Bubbles in a tux. Now I want her to have her own dress montage.
Croissants are really good. Everyone can agree on that. The important question is: are croissants the best pastry?
Random thought 1: We haven't heard about Margold and Dale in a while, I feel: pregnancy scare.
Random thought 1: We haven't heard about Margold and Dale in a while, I feel: pregnancy scare.
You know, in over 3000 entries I feel like that topic is long overdue. As long as it doesn't end in loss.jpg 2016, we could have a good arc on our hands. With so many characters to dwell on, a baby wouldn't necessarily derail any progression in the overall comic.
I would also add that she seemingly devoured a dozen croissants in such a short amount of time without any beverage on hand. That's quite a feat!
Think we can be reasonably confident that Brun is not suffering from Hannelore's eating problem...
I'm sure there's a deliberate contrast there, even if I have no idea where it will go.
Random thought 1: We haven't heard about Margold and Dale in a while, I feel: pregnancy scare.
You know, in over 3000 entries I feel like that topic is long overdue. As long as it doesn't end in loss.jpg 2016, we could have a good arc on our hands. With so many characters to dwell on, a baby wouldn't necessarily derail any progression in the overall comic.
FWIW, I always got the impression that Jeph wasn't so much opposed to the idea as much as he felt that he couldn't write or draw a baby character in any way that avoided self-parody. However now he has a baby relative on the way (a niece or nephew; I don't think that's been publicly confirmed) he might have a different mindset and approach. QC has enough autobiographical elements that I could see him inserting a secondary-level character pairing (such as, say, Dale and Marigold) having a child just to reflect his own experience of unclehood.
Whether that happens? Well, that's up to him, isn't it?
anyone else getting a new look to the site, sort of a plain look? I guess Jeph's working on the look+feel?
Ugh, ruining perfectly good baked goods with animal carcass. Sacrilege.
Ugh, ruining perfectly good baked goods with animal carcass. Sacrilege.
Idk, I had taco ingredients (beef, onions, peppers) shoved into croissants yesterday and it was pretty good. Although, I think my intestines hate me right.
With some coaxing and a resolute seamstress I could see her in 1890's masque ball finery, china mask, black lace bonnet, silk gloves et al, rendering patrons assistance when not standing by the end of the bar, silently watching and observing.https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d3/6b/73/d36b734b19a746b6ade3df42b64722b5.jpg (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d3/6b/73/d36b734b19a746b6ade3df42b64722b5.jpg)
anyone else getting a new look to the site, sort of a plain look? I guess Jeph's working on the look+feel?Was wondering if something was broken, everything on it seems wrong.
anyone else getting a new look to the site, sort of a plain look? I guess Jeph's working on the look+feel?
Yup, getting it here too. The forum link will be much easier to click if if stays like this; it used to be too small and surrounded by false targets.
Ugh, ruining perfectly good baked goods with animal carcass. Sacrilege.
Idk, I had taco ingredients (beef, onions, peppers) shoved into croissants yesterday and it was pretty good. Although, I think my intestines hate me right.
It seems like Renee craves validation, but on her terms only. Brun devours an entire bag of her croissants in record time, but she's irked because she didn't get a verbal compliment about her it. Now she's complaining about not getting a pat on the head even though Elliot listened to her complaining about her Mom and when he offers to do so belatedly she refuses.
If you take another look at the last two panels, you will see that she was not, in fact, complaining about not getting a pat on the head. That was only the way Elliot interpreted it*. She's trying to imply that Elliot wants to pat Brun on the head because he has a crush on her.
Now I've gone and explained the joke again. Sorry.
* Not only Ellliot, I guess.
If you take another look at the last two panels, you will see that she was not, in fact, complaining about not getting a pat on the head. That was only the way Elliot interpreted it*. She's trying to imply that Elliot wants to pat Brun on the head because he has a crush on her.
Now I've gone and explained the joke again. Sorry.
* Not only Ellliot, I guess.
If you take another look at it you can see her nearly equating her being pissed of at her mother to her friend losing her job, stuff and roof over head. That is textbook definition of unhealthily self centered. Even if it was to make a point on big guy not accepting his feelings, it's way, WAY to much.
And she didn't even refuse pat politely, she is drawn with clearly disgusted expresion. That drives the point even further.
Idk if it's self centered to give your friend fresh pastries....
Idk if it's self centered to give your friend fresh pastries....
It is self-centred if it's done so with the implicit assumption that you'll get some ego-stroking thanks and praise for doing so. I'm not saying that this was Renee's motive but clearly a lot of people do think that.
To me, the big joke in today's comic is that Elliott is so desperate to deny that he's attracted to Brun in any way that he's proposing to engage in an entirely inappropriately intimate behaviour with Renee so as to try to prove to himself that what he wants to do with Brun is nothing indicative of attraction. I can't exactly blame her for being freaked out by this.
Any unwanted and unsolicited touching is inappropriately intimate.Stay away from me then.
Any unwanted and unsolicited touching is inappropriately intimate.
Croissants are really good. Everyone can agree on that. The important question is: are croissants the best pastry?
I'd take croissants over any of those, but I don't really like sweets. As you said, subjective.Croissants are really good. Everyone can agree on that. The important question is: are croissants the best pastry?
That's a subjective question.
For me, the answer is 'no' because homemade apple fritters and blueberry coffecake crumble. Also homemade strawberry rhubarb pie. (Or is pie a confection?)
Well, Renee's not crazily protective about Brun's romantic life. She didn't seem unhappy with the idea of Elliot crushing on her precious vulnerable friend until he tried to muss up her carefully crafted hairstyle.
I think Renee is just a touch jealous of Elliott crushing on Brun
Do we have a thread (or an announcement even) about the new site layout?
Any unwanted and unsolicited touching is inappropriately intimate.
To me, the big joke in today's comic is that Elliott is so desperate to deny that he's attracted to Brun in any way that he's proposing to engage in an entirely inappropriately intimate behaviour with Renee so as to try to prove to himself that what he wants to do with Brun is nothing indicative of attraction. I can't exactly blame her for being freaked out by this.
I think Renee is just a touch jealous of Elliott crushing on Brun
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Here's a prediction for next week. Clinton refuses to go to COD to discuss tattoos, so they end up going to The Secret Bakery instead. Clinton bumps into Renee AND Kiki/Brun. Hilarity ensues.I just had a thought (dangerous, I know).
Here's a prediction for next week. Clinton refuses to go to COD to discuss tattoos, so they end up going to The Secret Bakery instead. Clinton bumps into Renee AND Kiki/Brun. Hilarity ensues.
I've got to admit that I'm not even sure why she did this;
Who exactly was Clinton applauding with his "Well played" comment? Marten, or Claire?
Who exactly was Clinton applauding with his "Well played" comment? Marten, or Claire?
Looks like the page redesign is deliberate. I know we are here as non-paying guests and thus should be polite, but to me it looks 1995-terrible. Bad fonts, poor layout, poor colour choices. I have the urge to hunt out an AOL online CD to load up Netscape Navigator to view it to see if is any better.
And that right there is what's wrong with North American society today. That's the kind of thinking that gets people wanting to charge 5 year olds with sexual harassment just for giving a hug to a classmate.
I've got to admit that I'm not even sure why she did this; it isn't as if Marten's 'voice of experience' directly impacted her here.
since Emily turned him downAre we absolutely sure she turned him down?
That's the thing. From most people "I'm too busy to date" would be an excuse and an attempted polite rejection. From Emily, it is likely a completely factual statement and Clinton is quite likely to receive a 'phone message from out of the blue along the lines of: "I've submitted my last course unit for the semester! So, when do you want our second date?"Well, it is a rejection for an indefinite time frame. This may be more frustrating than a flat "not interested" would be. In either case Clinton's best bet would be to move on and not dwell on it. He has no way of knowing if Emily has any feelings for him, short of asking directly, and would only make himself miserable
Elliot = dog personality.
Renee= cat (obviously)
Hey, who's the guy in the blue shirt?
I just had a flash of inspiration—what if Renee's recent spotlight has been setup for Angus's reintroduction? This may just be wishful thinking on my part, but i believe there's a chance.
Or Jeph could continue his trajectory of offering female characters whose role in the plot does not hinge on their romantic entanglements.
As hilarious as the whole "who is this guy, he looks like Marten but he has a spine" jokes are, I am wondering for how many months and years we need to see them posted before people finally start to reassess that premise as well.
Or Jeph could continue his trajectory of offering female characters whose role in the plot does not hinge on their romantic entanglements.
As hilarious as the whole "who is this guy, he looks like Marten but he has a spine" jokes are, I am wondering for how many months and years we need to see them posted before people finally start to reassess that premise as well.
Actually, my joke was about how long it's been since we saw him.
Seriously, how do comic characters manage to be condescending and drink their beverages at the same time?
Seriously, how do comic characters manage to be condescending and drink their beverages at the same time? Same thing I regularly see on Two Guys and Guy. It's a skill that would greatly enhance my own moments of condescendence (given that most of them happen with a coffee mug handy)
Seriously, how do comic characters manage to be condescending and drink their beverages at the same time? Same thing I regularly see on Two Guys and Guy. It's a skill that would greatly enhance my own moments of condescendence (given that most of them happen with a coffee mug handy)